1 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:10:32pm

Time to say good night and a good place to do so. Take care, all.

2 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:12:07pm

I am still laughing over the story I posted to the pages earlier--one of my Israeli bloggers had a lost dog returned to him from Ramallah.

There may be hope for the Middle East yet. The dog lovers are sticking together.

3 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:25:55pm

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

"Does this change my politics? No. But does it complicate them? Absolutely."

Ah, good lord, amen. Thank you, SFZ.

4 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:31:55pm

this fucking rules


massive industrial groove around 5:45

5 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:32:37pm

anyone who disses drum circles has to go through me

6 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:33:23pm

ahahahah the books!

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:34:27pm

G'night now, for real :D Promise!

8 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:48:05pm

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

I am still laughing over the story I posted to the pages earlier--one of my Israeli bloggers had a lost dog returned to him from Ramallah.

There may be hope for the Middle East yet. The dog lovers are sticking together.

Just went there and read the story - great story!

9 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 9:55:46pm

Talking British animals:

10 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:01:14pm

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

I am still laughing over the story I posted to the pages earlier--one of my Israeli bloggers had a lost dog returned to him from Ramallah.

There may be hope for the Middle East yet. The dog lovers are sticking together.

Awesome, also the Frank says quote right now reads: "Nothing but the best for my dog."

11 Lidane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:12:41pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Awesome, also the Frank says quote right now reads: "Nothing but the best for my dog."

Heh. My current Frank says quote is this:

I never set out to be weird. It was always the other people who called me weird.

Ain't that the truth.

12 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:15:55pm

A very negative opinion of Donald Trump is now up on... Michelle Malkin's site? This is getting confusing.

13 Lidane  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:17:06pm

re: #12 JasonA

A very negative opinion of Donald Trump is now up on... Michelle Malkin's site? This is getting confusing.

They're finally starting to pay attention to the bullshit behind the pandering birther mask.

14 Four More Tears  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:23:45pm

re: #13 Lidane

They're finally starting to pay attention to the bullshit behind the pandering birther mask.

Trump is one bad hairpiece too far.

15 Kruk  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:24:01pm

re: #2 SanFranciscoZionist

I am still laughing over the story I posted to the pages earlier--one of my Israeli bloggers had a lost dog returned to him from Ramallah.

There may be hope for the Middle East yet. The dog lovers are sticking together.

The first commandment of being a dog person:

I'm Dog thy lord, and thou shalt have no other Gods before me.

16 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:24:50pm

re: #13 Lidane

They're finally starting to pay attention to the bullshit behind the pandering birther mask.

It's a question as to whether they're slowly getting tired of his one-note song or that they're getting leery of the glee that we display towards the possibility of his candidacy against Obama.

17 deranged cat  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:41:43pm

i really like you have a love for good music, Charles. you always post the best musical videos!

18 lazardo  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 10:42:06pm

re: #9 prairiefire

Thought it was that one by the Wallace & Gromit people.

19 freetoken  Fri, Apr 22, 2011 11:44:21pm
20 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:04:40am

re: #12 JasonA

A very negative opinion of Donald Trump is now up on... Michelle Malkin's site? This is getting confusing.

Trump isn't a GOP insider, not surprising

21 freetoken  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:11:50am
22 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:27:20am

Ha. Ha. Ha. Lohan is already out of jail after posting $75,000 while her lawyer appeals. She spend only 5 hours in jail. Yep, I'm sure she'll be treated "like the rest of us". God bless Murica.

23 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:28:00am

The Mevlana Rumi wrote:

Little by little, drunk people are gathering: those in love, people who want to drink more and more glasses of knowledge, the knowledge of God. Little by little, their souls grow up, and they become alive. Little by little, the spiritual life rises from the physical one.

Andak Andak

Little by little, the group of the lovedrunk arrive
Little by little, the worshipers of wine arrive

They are on their way; Comforting and gentle
Like flowers from the flowerfield they arrive

Little by little, from this world of Being and non-Being
The non-existent leave and the existent arrive

They come with hands and clothes full of gold
For the poor and hungry they arrive

The gaunt, exhausted from the trials of Love
Strong and healthy they arrive

Like the rays of the Sun, the lives of the Pure
From those heights to the lowly valley they arrive

Green and fresh the garden for the pure
With new fruits from the love drunk they arrive

Their essence is grace and grace they unfold and expand
From the garden towards the garden they arrive

24 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:30:01am

Good night, denizens of Lizardistan.

25 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:30:31am

re: #24 CuriousLurker

Good night, denizens of Lizardistan.

Late-ur.

26 freetoken  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:37:44am

Looking at the "top 30" pop hits, as defined by Billboard, only one out of that 30 gives an indication of what would transpire over the next 24 months in American Pop:

27 freetoken  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:38:05am

That was for 1954, btw.

28 freetoken  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:49:21am

Only two years later, in 1956, during this week of April, something happened - the following song (released in January) became the top selling record in stores:

The rest, as they say, is history.

29 researchok  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:48:21am

Morning, all

30 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:52:38am

Morning all. Today's Scots word is braw: beautiful or great. As in "it's a braw bricht nicht the nicht": It's a fine bright evening tonight.

I survived the haggis experiment. It was good!

hope everyone is having a braw day today!

31 researchok  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:57:07am

re: #23 CuriousLurker

Whirling Dervish, right?

32 mdey  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:05:23am

re: #30 iceweasel

Thanks for the tutorial Ice. I doubt that any of my Scot relatives have any idea what braw means.

33 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:06:23am

I just found out Dave Mustaine of Megadeth is a birther

which honestly is exactly what I expected, ahahaha

34 mdey  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:07:12am

re: #33 WindUpBird

Mustaine is a birther? Sure about that?

35 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:18:39am

re: #34 mdey

Mustaine is a birther? Sure about that?

Official twitter dude!

36 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:20:17am

re: #34 mdey

Mustaine is a birther? Sure about that?

samples!


DaveMustaine
Trump’s my hero! He’s investigating Barry Soetoro aka Obama’s suspicious birth & school records. So glad someone’s finally doing something!
37 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:28:23am

more metal fun facts!

The two dumb members of Slayer are Limbaugh fans: [Link: arsenioorteza.blogspot.com...]


The two smart members who are coincidentially NOT WHITE, are probably not. :D

38 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:28:42am

re: #32 mdey

Thanks for the tutorial Ice. I doubt that any of my Scot relatives have any idea what braw means.

Jimmah says its an older word, so even some Scots wouldn't know it necessarily.

39 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:30:00am

re: #33 WindUpBird

I just found out Dave Mustaine of Megadeth is a birther

which honestly is exactly what I expected, ahahaha

I got 6 stitches in my face at a Megadeath concert. Mustaine is a Ted Nugent conservative.

40 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:30:17am

re: #38 iceweasel

sup ice

got my beer and my drawing arm steady, checking the fools who misunderstood

41 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:30:38am

re: #39 RogueOne

I got 6 stitches in my face at a Megadeath concert. Mustaine is a Ted Nugent conservative.

Another bridesmaid you slept with slapped you? :-)

42 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:31:28am

re: #40 WindUpBird

sup ice

got my beer and my drawing arm steady, checking the fools who misunderstood

Hey WUB! Not much happening here, getting ready to do some errands. Sounds like you're having fun, though!

43 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:32:42am

re: #39 RogueOne

I got 6 stitches in my face at a Megadeath concert. Mustaine is a Ted Nugent conservative.

mega DETH!

DETH!

NO SECOND 'A'!

(I kid I kid)


And I thought Mustaine was less Nuge and more RonPaulish, i guess it's a thin distinction

Great GREAT shows, I saw them for the Cryptic Writings tour, Holy Wars was as tight as a submarine live

The only time I've ever got injured at a show was when I was crowdsurfing at a Testament show in...1995 ish? and I got dropped on my neck and then stepped on

44 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:33:06am

re: #41 iceweasel

Another bridesmaid you slept with slapped you? :-)

bridesmaid in a DRI t-shirt attacked him with a mic stand

45 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:33:41am

re: #41 iceweasel

Another bridesmaid you slept with slapped you? :-)

Ha! No, some drunk bastard clocked me from behind, he also managed to hit my spouse. He took off running and the cops grabbed me just as I got to him. When they got us to the cop shop the Major running the security was a policeman I knew from working at the jail all the time. I missed the show so they gave me VIP tickets to Green Day. 3rd row. I'd take a shot in the head again for 3rd row.

46 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:33:51am

re: #42 iceweasel

Hey WUB! Not much happening here, getting ready to do some errands. Sounds like you're having fun, though!

This is really the point where I am both very productive and dangerously giddy, middle of the night

47 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:34:42am

re: #45 RogueOne

Yow *_*

did the guy just randomly decide on you? what was his deal?

48 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:36:13am

re: #46 WindUpBird

This is really the point where I am both very productive and dangerously giddy, middle of the night

That's why I'm so happy to catch you!

re: #45 RogueOne

Ha! No, some drunk bastard clocked me from behind, he also managed to hit my spouse. He took off running and the cops grabbed me just as I got to him. When they got us to the cop shop the Major running the security was a policeman I knew from working at the jail all the time. I missed the show so they gave me VIP tickets to Green Day. 3rd row. I'd take a shot in the head again for 3rd row.

You have led a very interesting life. Green Day-- I'm jealous. I used to have this in my profile when this place was still infested with wingnuts:

Just to annoy 'ém.

49 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:38:21am

re: #47 WindUpBird

Yow *_*

did the guy just randomly decide on you? what was his deal?

Excessively drunk, He spilled his beer down my back 3 times. The 3rd time I told his friends to take his beer away from him and he didn't like it. When the cops got him he managed to club one of them square in the mouth. They were so busy kicking his ass they almost forgot about me. My biggest concern was the 2 big joints I had in my pocket. Luckily, the officer that had a hold of me let me give my cigarette pack to my spouse before they dragged me off.

50 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:39:05am

re: #48 iceweasel

I am politically agnostic when it comes to music (lol, i do like Slayer's dittohead) but MAN that American Idiot record is soooo gooood


i was actively hostile to Green Day, i HATED dookie, they were the enemy, I could not stand the band

Then that Good Riddance song came out and that was a great song that softened my hard metal purist heart


and then American Idiot came out and I just threw up my hands and went COME ON! where was this record before?!?!?! How is it that Green Day smoked the field and made the solid protest record with hooks for days? What a great album

51 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:40:11am

re: #50 WindUpBird

Jimmah and I are also big fans of that record. There's not enough of that sort of stuff is there? American idiot-- brilliant.

52 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:40:50am

re: #49 RogueOne

Excessively drunk, He spilled his beer down my back 3 times. The 3rd time I told his friends to take his beer away from him and he didn't like it. When the cops got him he managed to club one of them square in the mouth. They were so busy kicking his ass they almost forgot about me. My biggest concern was the 2 big joints I had in my pocket. Luckily, the officer that had a hold of me let me give my cigarette pack to my spouse before they dragged me off.


the bolded made me LOL for reals

You're braver than me! Also probably a lot larger, I am always outweighed by everyone at every show I ever go to, yet i still flung myself into the pit at two Mastodon shows at age 34, whee *_*

53 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:40:59am

re: #48 iceweasel

I love Green Day. I already had tix to the show but they upgraded me. They sat me in a lawn chair in the middle of the aisle. It was worth it.

54 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:41:49am

re: #53 RogueOne

I love Green Day. I already had tix to the show but they upgraded me. They sat me in a lawn chair in the middle of the aisle. It was worth it.

Fantastic.

55 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:42:19am

Cripes, Jimmah tells me we're late. Have a great day folks, catch you later I hope!

56 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:43:54am

re: #51 iceweasel

Jimmah and I are also big fans of that record. There's not enough of that sort of stuff is there? American idiot-- brilliant.

oh!

there IS a great protest/conspiracy theory record called Mother, Teacher, Destroyer, by a legendary doom metal guy (Wino) and his band at the time, Hidden Hand.

Though i didn't know of it at the time. NOW I know, now that Bush is out of office!


here's some of it

Wino is one of my favorite artists of any kind on this earth *_*

57 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:44:03am

re: #55 iceweasel

cheers!

58 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:44:13am

re: #53 RogueOne

I love Green Day. I already had tix to the show but they upgraded me. They sat me in a lawn chair in the middle of the aisle. It was worth it.

RAD

59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:45:01am

re: #30 iceweasel

Ugh.

60 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:45:24am

re: #52 WindUpBird

I used to have anger issues and drinking always got me in trouble so I stopped drinking and switched to smoking. I never get into trouble when I'm smoking. I was pissed because I was actually trying to be polite until he hit me. It's a concert, I expect people to be rowdy, drunk, and getting bumped and pushed around. I'm old now so I stay away from the pits but it's still fun to watch.

61 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:47:59am

re: #60 RogueOne

I used to have anger issues and drinking always got me in trouble so I stopped drinking and switched to smoking. I never get into trouble when I'm smoking. I was pissed because I was actually trying to be polite until he hit me. It's a concert, I expect people to be rowdy, drunk, and getting bumped and pushed around. I'm old now so I stay away from the pits but it's still fun to watch.

heh, and I am cutting way back on the smoking because it's getting in the way of all the obnoxiously finicky-ass technical shit I'm dealing with for freelance and personal projects :D


But yeah, you are not alone, I have a lot of friends who just switched to smoking to get themselves out of the bad headspace they were in when they got drunk.

Me, I am a happy clown drunk, loud and stupid but polite in that way that drunks are. I have this horrible drunk laugh that really, I wish i didn't *_*

62 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:49:16am

re: #60 RogueOne

I got groped by a guy once at an AIC concert when i was in high school, like some big huge guy full on lifted me off the ground grope, that was pretty crazy

63 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:50:30am

re: #62 WindUpBird

I got groped by a guy once at an AIC concert when i was in high school, like some big huge guy full on lifted me off the ground grope, that was pretty crazy

Nobody ever gropes me and I ask nicely all the time!

64 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:51:27am

re: #63 RogueOne

Nobody ever gropes me and I ask nicely all the time!

It was an enlightening experience, being a tenth grader

my first gropin'!

65 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:52:24am
66 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:52:46am

re: #65 Winny Spencer

See, that's just funny

67 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:55:15am

re: #61 WindUpBird

heh, and I am cutting way back on the smoking because it's getting in the way of all the obnoxiously finicky-ass technical shit I'm dealing with for freelance and personal projects :D

But yeah, you are not alone, I have a lot of friends who just switched to smoking to get themselves out of the bad headspace they were in when they got drunk.

Me, I am a happy clown drunk, loud and stupid but polite in that way that drunks are. I have this horrible drunk laugh that really, I wish i didn't *_*

I stopped going to bars unless it's an upscale yuppie club. Guys in ties almost never start throwing bottles.

I was visiting my brother in Peoria and we were at this big bar when all hell breaks loose. We had to fight our way through the crowd to get out and we got separated. I get outside and he's no where to be found. He didn't show up at his house until the next afternoon. Turned out that when he made it out of the bar a cop on horseback asked to see his ID. When he reached up to give it to him the cop handcuffed him, attached the other side to the horse, and walked him down the street to the police station and arrested him for PI.

68 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:55:56am

re: #65 Winny Spencer

I get mad when he starts going crypto racist!


but when he says stuff like that, it's like so goofy and awesome that I just root for him to get to the point where his ego eclipses the sun. Limbaugh at the pyramids of Giza, waving his Golden Microphone around on a scepter, jen Michel-Jarre lasers everywhere spelling the EIB logo, in a suit of golden armor and a laurel wreath, declaring himself an ascendant being of pure thought with the power of second sight and precognition


Hell, if he did that, I'd go conservative on general principle. "Fuck, might as well."

69 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:00:02am

re: #67 RogueOne

I stopped going to bars unless it's an upscale yuppie club. Guys in ties almost never start throwing bottles.

I was visiting my brother in Peoria and we were at this big bar when all hell breaks loose. We had to fight our way through the crowd to get out and we got separated. I get outside and he's no where to be found. He didn't show up at his house until the next afternoon. Turned out that when he made it out of the bar a cop on horseback asked to see his ID. When he reached up to give it to him the cop handcuffed him, attached the other side to the horse, and walked him down the street to the police station and arrested him for PI.

Okay, you're the first person I've ever talked to who has been to Peoria. Peoria was an injoke of my friends and mine, in jr. high. It was like an unknown place, like mars, but on earth. if something was unknwoable, it was in Peoria.

Also, why am I never in any bars when 'all hell breaks loose?" Oh yeah, because I'm a nerd and a shutin. My karaoke bar had a couple fights, one guy hurled a pint glass at my bartender, and then RAN AWAY LIKE A CHILD. That was the worst thing I've ever seen in a bar.

Also, when you say you fought your way through the crowd, you mean that literally, right? Like full of swinging and throwing shoulders? This stuff fascinates me, because I'm a twiggy chickenshit :D

70 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:00:53am

re: #67 RogueOne

why do I even bother talking politics here, this stuff is a million times more interesting

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:01:28am

Happy Earth Day!

Ya bunch of patchouli smellin', Forester drivin', flower children, dope smokin', tree huggin', war protestin', Birkenstock wearin', government hatin', Co-existin', Freegan livin', tree-huggin' hippies.

72 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:02:16am

One of my favs:

Sweating Bullets:

73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:02:55am

re: #67 RogueOne

"I did not want to be drunk in public. I wanted to be drunk in a bar. They threw me into public. You should arrest them."
-Ron White

74 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:05:07am

re: #72 RogueOne

Oh man memories!

HELLO ME, NICE TALKING TO MYSELF, A CREDIT TO DEMENTIA

Best song on that album WITHOUT A DOUBT (imhhhho) is Ashes in Your Mouth

75 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:05:23am

re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"I did not want to be drunk in public. I wanted to be drunk in a bar. They threw me into public. You should arrest them."
-Ron White

THAT QUOTE RULES

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:06:20am

re: #75 WindUpBird

One of the best comic bits of the last 20 years, IMO.

77 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:07:34am

re: #69 WindUpBird

Okay, you're the first person I've ever talked to who has been to Peoria. Peoria was an injoke of my friends and mine, in jr. high. It was like an unknown place, like mars, but on earth. if something was unknwoable, it was in Peoria.

Also, why am I never in any bars when 'all hell breaks loose?" Oh yeah, because I'm a nerd and a shutin. My karaoke bar had a couple fights, one guy hurled a pint glass at my bartender, and then RAN AWAY LIKE A CHILD. That was the worst thing I've ever seen in a bar.

Also, when you say you fought your way through the crowd, you mean that literally, right? Like full of swinging and throwing shoulders? This stuff fascinates me, because I'm a twiggy chickenshit :D

You need to hang out in the seedy bars sometime, that's where all the fun is. I was in a marine bar in NC (again visiting my brother) and there was a fight that looked like something out of an old western with everyone but me getting involved. Chairs going through the air, people getting hit bottles, pool sticks and balls, tables broken, the mirror behind the bar was destroyed, those marines kicked the crap out of each other.

78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:08:49am

re: #72 RogueOne

My fave megadeth songs in no particular order are devil's Island, Trust, Holy Wars, Hangar 18, Wake Up Dead, Rust in Peace...Polaris, uhhh...Symphony of Destruction... thinking...

79 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:09:14am

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

One of the best comic bits of the last 20 years, IMO.

"They threw me into public!"


I'm still laughing

80 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:11:58am

re: #73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"I did not want to be drunk in public. I wanted to be drunk in a bar. They threw me into public. You should arrest them."
-Ron White

They ended up dropping the charges, he only blew around a .05 and he wasn't involved in the mini-riot. He was pretty pissed they dragged him down the street cuffed to that horse though.

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:12:03am

re: #77 RogueOne

You need to hang out in the seedy bars sometime, that's where all the fun is. I was in a marine bar in NC (again visiting my brother) and there was a fight that looked like something out of an old western with everyone but me getting involved. Chairs going through the air, people getting hit bottles, pool sticks and balls, tables broken, the mirror behind the bar was destroyed, those marines kicked the crap out of each other.

I do! I've seen a couple of chest-bump aggro scenes at my old karaoke bar, which was sort of a country bar that was friendly to dirtbag metalheads. because there's not much daylight between a dirtbag country karaoke fan and a dirtbag metalhead karaoke fan.

but it's like two methheads go crazy, and then the bartender (who was a lady about 5' nothing) just shrieks at them, waves a bat and they just hustle outside. She was like the mighty mite, she was terrifying when she was mad. But seedy bars in Portland, and even in suburbs, they're still not THAt seedy.

I think the NW doesn't have the will to get a good barfight going. :D

82 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:13:14am

re: #80 RogueOne

They ended up dropping the charges, he only blew around a .05 and he wasn't involved in the mini-riot. He was pretty pissed they dragged him down the street cuffed to that horse though.

I don't know if I would have been angry! because that sounds more surreal than even my life, and I spent last january following people tripping on mushrooms wearing dog costumes around with a video camera

83 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:15:01am

re: #77 RogueOne

You need to hang out in the seedy bars sometime, that's where all the fun is. I was in a marine bar in NC (again visiting my brother) and there was a fight that looked like something out of an old western with everyone but me getting involved. Chairs going through the air, people getting hit bottles, pool sticks and balls, tables broken, the mirror behind the bar was destroyed, those marines kicked the crap out of each other.

Okay, NOW I've figured it out. :D me at a bar frequented by Marines would be like a bull moose wearing a business suit

I look like a skinnier Jason Mewes, minus the track marks

84 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:18:31am

re: #82 WindUpBird

My brother was a fun one to hang out with. If there's a way for the night to go bad quick it usually started with him. Luckily, he stopped drinking just a couple years ago.

85 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:20:20am

re: #83 WindUpBird

Okay, NOW I've figured it out. :D me at a bar frequented by Marines would be like a bull moose wearing a business suit

I look like a skinnier Jason Mewes, minus the track marks

Did I see you say the other day you only weigh 140? I was barely 155 (and 6'4") when I graduated HS. I didn't fill out for a few years after that.

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:23:11am

re: #69 WindUpBird

I'm twiggy chickenshit's little sister.

87 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:23:46am

re: #84 RogueOne

My brother was a fun one to hang out with. If there's a way for the night to go bad quick it usually started with him. Luckily, he stopped drinking just a couple years ago.


I have one friend who is the Dive Bar Whisperer, he is a Very Large Man With Many Tattoos Who is a Cook From Kansas, so I've seen the inside of some dire watering holes thanks to him, but everyone was strangely polite!

155 and 6 foot 4! jesus! yeah, I'm now around 145ish, 5'11"

88 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:24:25am

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm twiggy chickenshit's little sister.

89 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:25:12am

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm twiggy chickenshit's little sister.

Pic related.

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:26:48am

re: #89 laZardo

That is so amazingly mean, and yet amazingly funny.

91 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:27:21am

re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is so amazingly mean, and yet amazingly funny.

oh internet

92 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:28:45am

re: #87 WindUpBird

I was skinny. When I went to basic training they had me paired up with one of the fat kids at meal times. He was my "Chubby Buddy" (instead of Battle Buddy). They would take part of his food and give it to me. He cried every day for the first month. I left the same weight I came in with.

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:29:11am

re: #91 WindUpBird

oh internet

Porn and Schadenfreude
Porn and Schadenfreude
Porn and Schadenfreude

94 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:31:09am

re: #92 RogueOne

basic training sounds extremely surreal. *_* My nerd-artist internet friend (who's got the physique of a Greek God, the bastard) when he joined up, he had stories that he'd tell me over AIM, and they were all stuff like that

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:32:31am

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Porn always made the world go round, it's just now, we can see it

it's like the ant farm used to be made of stone, now it's finally glass!


VCR technology was entirely steered by porn!

96 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:34:30am

re: #93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Porn and Schadenfreude
Porn and Schadenfreude
Porn and Schadenfreude

That some kind of Nazi word?

97 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:35:24am

re: #96 laZardo

are you a Full Metal Alchemist fan?

98 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:36:02am

re: #12 JasonA

A very negative opinion of Donald Trump is now up on... Michelle Malkin's site? This is getting confusing.

National Review posted a column of hers where she blasts Trump for his disrespect of other's property and his callous attempt to take an Atlantic City widow's house in order to build a limousine parking lot. Malkin's become an ass, but she's not so far gone as to forget that respect for private property in a bedrock conservative issue going all the way back to Goldwater. That Donald Trump has never cared about the property rights of others makes it clear he is not a conservative.

99 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:36:08am

re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Earth Day!

Ya bunch of patchouli smellin', Forester drivin', flower children, dope smokin', tree huggin', war protestin', Birkenstock wearin', government hatin', Co-existin', Freegan livin', tree-huggin' hippies.

We love you too,{ FBV}.

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:36:38am

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

I'm starting a Clutch cover band called Blast Trump

101 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:37:01am

re: #94 WindUpBird

basic training sounds extremely surreal. *_* My nerd-artist internet friend (who's got the physique of a Greek God, the bastard) when he joined up, he had stories that he'd tell me over AIM, and they were all stuff like that

Funniest 8 weeks of my life. 150 kids from all over, some fat, weak, others really stupid (and really most weren't all that bright) getting screamed at by large men in county mountie hats. I can proudly say I was the first person to get dropped for push-ups because I was laughing .

My best friend turned out to be an infantry drill sergeant years later. He has the best stories in the world.

102 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:37:11am

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

At least Michelle Malkin can write! even someone who i can't stand, if they're eloquent, at least that's something

103 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:37:49am

re: #100 WindUpBird

I love clutch

104 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:40:53am

re: #97 WindUpBird

are you a Full Metal Alchemist fan?

Not really.

I do have the hots for Envy though.

105 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:42:03am

re: #101 RogueOne

Funniest 8 weeks of my life. 150 kids from all over, some fat, weak, others really stupid (and really most weren't all that bright) getting screamed at by large men in county mountie hats. I can proudly say I was the first person to get dropped for push-ups because I was laughing .

My best friend turned out to be an infantry drill sergeant years later. He has the best stories in the world.


I would have been laughing too, holy christ XD How close was it to Full Metal Jacket? "If God wanted you up there, he'd have miracled your ass up!"

A guy I lived with in Seattle when i was just out of college, I was penniless artist, he was back from the marines, from basic training, and he was APPALLED at how stupid people he was training with were. he was the "Scribe" because he was smart. he was polite, smart, serious, and trained like a bastard at home, so he could be the dude who was in shape. Apparently he overtrained! he didn't consider himself smart, until he came back from basic training. And then he was just "WHY DO THEY LIP OFF TO THE DI?!?!?! WHY DO THEY LIKE PUSH-UPS SO MUCH?" This was...1997? 1998? around then.

and man, i cannot even IMAGINE the richness of life experienced by a drill sergeant. it must be like seeing galaxies from orbit

106 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:42:24am

re: #104 laZardo

Not really.

I do have the hots for Envy though.

this will make you lol Image: tumblr_lj9mkk62821qahaiko1_500.png

107 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:43:17am

re: #104 laZardo

even I see the appeal of Envy!

108 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:43:50am

re: #102 WindUpBird

At least Michelle Malkin can write! even someone who i can't stand, if they're eloquent, at least that's something

I stopped reading and listening to her many years ago. She uses every miscellaneous crime an illegal commits to paint the entire group.

109 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:44:32am

re: #103 RogueOne

I love clutch

We can never be enemies ever

remind me of this if I ever get all liberal asshole at you for any reaosn ever

Just say "Dude! Clutch!" it's like hypnosis, it calms me right down. Seen them twice, changed my life, own every record, know every song

110 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:44:38am

re: #106 WindUpBird

this will make you lol Image: tumblr_lj9mkk62821qahaiko1_500.png

OOOHHHH GOOD ONE

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:44:56am

re: #96 laZardo

"Fuck you lady, that's what stairs are for!"

112 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:45:09am

re: #102 WindUpBird

At least Michelle Malkin can write! even someone who i can't stand, if they're eloquent, at least that's something

Michelle Malkin makes me ashamed to be of Filipino heritage.

113 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:46:06am

re: #108 RogueOne

I stopped reading and listening to her many years ago. She uses every miscellaneous crime an illegal commits to paint the entire group.

I can't stand her, but can sorta appreciate her shuck and jive, if that makes any sense

it's sorta like grudgingly admitting the other team has a good QB

114 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:46:23am

re: #102 WindUpBird

At least Michelle Malkin can write! even someone who i can't stand, if they're eloquent, at least that's something

True. She was one of three anti-Trump columns last week on National Reviews website. David Foster and Jonah Goldberg wrote the other two. I already linked to Foster's column, so now I'm going to post Goldberg's for the hat trick:

Duck, It’s the Donald!

At this point, there’s at least one thing you can’t blame Donald Trump for: being Donald Trump.

Like the scorpion in Aesop’s fables that must sting the frog because that’s simply what scorpions do, the world-renowned, self-promoting billionaire clown must tout himself with passion and narcissistic self-regard.

It was only a matter of time, for instance, before he came out with his own fragrance: Donald Trump Cologne by Donald Trump Eau De Toilettes (You can find it on Amazon.com. The first of the two customer reviews is from a woman who discovered the scent as it wafted up from the stock boy at “Toys R Us”).

But that’s not the smell that bothers me. It’s the stench of desperation coming up from those fickle souls taking a Trump presidential bid seriously.

How fickle? Well, not a day goes by when someone doesn’t explain that Newt Gingrich can’t win because he’s damaged goods. And it’s certainly true that the former speaker of the House has a lot of baggage — “enough to open a Louis Vuitton store,” writes Ramesh Ponnuru in National Review. But surely “The Donald’s” baggage would require an army of stevedores and sherpas.

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:48:08am

Wife is laying on the living room floor doing Wii yoga. For someone a few months from fifty she looks great.

ENVY ME!

116 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:48:16am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

They're seeing their lunch being eaten by trump. They're watching it go down his gullet!


It's as if Trump realized that politics is indistinguishable from stardom, and then realized the field was weak and he could just sweep in and buy it, like he does his casinos

117 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:48:18am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

I don't like Goldberg but I did like that. Thanks for posting it.

118 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:49:16am

re: #113 WindUpBird

I can't stand her, but can sorta appreciate her shuck and jive, if that makes any sense

it's sorta like grudgingly admitting the other team has a good QB

I do read Ann Coulter occasionally. (It's been awhile now that I think about it.) She's so over the top. I would watch a cable news program that had Ann Coulter and James Carville as hosts, that could be a lot of fun.

119 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:49:40am

re: #108 RogueOne

I stopped reading and listening to her many years ago. She uses every miscellaneous crime an illegal commits to paint the entire group.

Me too. I only gave her heed this time because one thing she's always been good on is property rights, and that's something Donald Trump has always been bad on. So even if you don't like her, its good to read a virtuoso hammering that man as the heartless egomaniac he really is.

120 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:50:08am

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

I propose we refer to Trump from now on as:

THE DUCK DONALD


as in, the anti-Donald Duck

I don't know why, but it's so funny

121 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:50:46am

re: #118 RogueOne

I do read Ann Coulter occasionally. (It's been awhile now that I think about it.) She's so over the top. I would watch a cable news program that had Ann Coulter and James Carville as hosts, that could be a lot of fun.

DEMONIC!

her new book!

and yeah, Carville versus Coulter would be a riot, they could tour!

122 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:51:42am

re: #116 WindUpBird

They're seeing their lunch being eaten by trump. They're watching it go down his gullet!

It's as if Trump realized that politics is indistinguishable from stardom, and then realized the field was weak and he could just sweep in and buy it, like he does his casinos

If Trump eats it, then he does. National Review will never support him. They'd rather be irrelevant in a presidential election. This is what is called "taking the long view". That view being that after Trump burns out, and he will, they'll still be there, able to lead.

123 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:52:03am

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

Me too. I only gave her heed this time because one thing she's always been good on is property rights, and that's something Donald Trump has always been bad on. So even if you don't like her, its good to read a virtuoso hammering that man as the heartless egomaniac he really is.

His love of Kelo was getting him a beating on Reason this week.

124 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:53:19am

re: #120 WindUpBird

I propose we refer to Trump from now on as:

THE DUCK DONALD

as in, the anti-Donald Duck

I don't know why, but it's so funny

Because Donald Duck always worked 'everyman' jobs, and for all his craziness he'd never dream of taking someone's house to build a parking lot.

125 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:53:31am

I'm starting to get the feeling that LGF is becoming of a (mostly) harmonious like-mind with regard to the exasperated, temple-rubbing, hands to the skye, wtf weirdness of this campaign season, conspiracy theories, and burning Korans and maniac preachers everywhere


I want it to be Romney getting the nod, so we retain some dignity in '12 but I don't think it will be. It'll be so much more deranged and bizarre

126 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:54:18am

re: #124 Dark_Falcon

Because Donald Duck always worked 'everyman' jobs, and for all his craziness he'd never dream of taking someone's house to build a parking lot.

I just like how it sounds, like he's some Grand Vizier

Presenting...the DUCK DONALD

127 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:54:26am

re: #125 WindUpBird

I'm still hoping beyond hope for Jon Huntsman. It's like Obama sent him to China so he wouldn't end up mutating from the secondary exposure.

128 Flounder  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:56:23am

Awesome video, thanks Charles!. Uncle Fester with the toothbrushes was my favorite. That kitchen give me claustrophobia.

129 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:57:27am

oh shit, one of my more....unusual...clients is talking to me online, i gotta put on the game face

"I'm sorry, i was drunk. What were you saying about your dragon's photovoltaic abilities?"

130 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:58:13am

Fox News And Catholic League’s Bill Donohue Invent ‘War On Easter’

More wingnut failure.

Donohue also cites “Third graders at a Seattle school [who] were told they must call Easter Eggs ‘Spring Spheres.’” The basis of this claim is a 16-year-old private school student named Jessica who called into a right-wing radio show. She claims the edict was communicated to her by an unnamed public school 3rd-grade teacher when she offered to give her student plastic eggs filled with candy.

Seattle Public School spokeswoman Teresa Wipple told ThinkProgress that two weeks ago the school system sent out an email to every region seeking information about “Jessica’s” story. They haven’t received any indication that the incident actually occurred.

131 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:58:50am

re: #130 iceweasel

I want to invent a War on Bastille Day


and then Alex Lifeson will kick me in the nuts and I'll be all :/

132 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:59:24am

re: #129 WindUpBird

oh shit, one of my more...unusual...clients is talking to me online, i gotta put on the game face

"I'm sorry, i was drunk. What were you saying about your dragon's photovoltaic abilities?"

Cool, post it here and entertain us. ;)

133 Flounder  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:59:28am

Woke up here in upstate NY with an inch of snow and 8 teenaged girls passed out in my living room. Waffles for breakfast (Bisquick with a little vanilla flav), gonna fattemup!

134 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:01:00am

re: #129 WindUpBird

oh shit, one of my more...unusual...clients is talking to me online, i gotta put on the game face

"I'm sorry, i was drunk. What were you saying about your dragon's photovoltaic abilities?"

I don't want to ask, but I fear I'm gonna find out anyway.

In the meantime, here's Lo Fidelity Allstars.

135 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:02:19am

Man the things people tell me on AIM, I can't even say

136 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:03:01am

re: #132 iceweasel

Cool, post it here and entertain us. ;)

I am TOTALLY NOT DOING THAT :D

I have a weirdo code of ethics with the furry folks, I make some fun, but I can't betray their trust

137 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:03:11am

re: #133 shropshire_slasher

Woke up here in upstate NY with an inch of snow and 8 teenaged girls passed out in my living room. Waffles for breakfast (Bisquick with a little vanilla flav), gonna fattemup!

Hence, your username. ;)

138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:03:36am

re: #130 iceweasel

Ms. Garcia-Thompson strikes again.

President Garcia-Thompson: You passed out cigarettes for a smoke-a-thon on Earth Day. You installed speed bumps on the handicapped ramps and, most recently, you dumped 100 pounds of... MEAT on a peaceful vegan protest!
Droz: Oh, come on! That was way more than 100 pounds.

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:03:41am

re: #133 shropshire_slasher

Woke up here in upstate NY with an inch of snow and 8 teenaged girls passed out in my living room. Waffles for breakfast (Bisquick with a little vanilla flav), gonna fattemup!

fuck you, now I want waffles!

140 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:05:06am

re: #133 shropshire_slasher

Woke up here in upstate NY with an inch of snow and 8 teenaged girls passed out in my living room. Waffles for breakfast (Bisquick with a little vanilla flav), gonna fattemup!

yum
Add some white chocolate chips to that waffle recipe, and it will be perfect!

141 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:05:51am

re: #136 WindUpBird

I am TOTALLY NOT DOING THAT :D

I have a weirdo code of ethics with the furry folks, I make some fun, but I can't betray their trust

Same here. I'll talk alot about what I'm hearing from my customers, but I'll never post anything that might embarrass them or reveal any part of their identity.

142 Flounder  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:05:53am

re: #139 WindUpBird
Come on over, I always end up freezin a few. I might even put some Reeses Pieces in a few...

143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:05:59am

re: #139 WindUpBird

fuck you, now I want waffles!

144 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:06:43am

re: #142 Shropshire_Slasher

Come on over, I always end up freezin a few. I might even put some Reeses Pieces in a few...

let me call my man, he'll have the chopper waiting

145 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:08:07am

re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ms. Garcia-Thompson strikes again.

PCU. The movie that first showcased Jeremy Piven's talent. It took him a long time to get another role that let him bring that crazy comedic energy back to the screen, but he eventually got his role on 'Entourage' and the rest is history.

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:08:58am

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

Same here. I'll talk alot about what I'm hearing from my customers, but I'll never post anything that might embarrass them or reveal any part of their identity.

right! and anything I do reveal, is so fictionalized that it's only the general vibe that gets through


for example, this guy isn't REALLY an internet dragon, he's into another mythical creature called a [redacted] from the movie [redacted]

147 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:09:19am

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

PCU. The movie that first showcased Jeremy Piven's talent. It took him a long time to get another role that let him bring that crazy comedic energy back to the screen, but he eventually got his role on 'Entourage' and the rest is history.

all I know about PCU is Steve Vai is on the soundtrack

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:12:25am

re: #147 WindUpBird

all I know about PCU is Steve Vai is on the soundtrack

And Starland Vocal Band. Don't forget Starland Vocal Band.

Little known fact about SVB... they were also known as "Fat City".

The back-up band for John Denver in the song "Take Me Home, Country Roads".

Now... how do you get from Steve Vai to John Denver?

THAT'S HOW!

149 Flounder  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:12:49am

Great maple syrup season so far this year.

150 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:12:58am

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

DAMN that's some jujitsu :D

151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:35:26am

Everybody go bye-bye?

152 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:35:45am

re: #151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Everybody go bye-bye?

except us

153 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:36:00am

And me, lurking.

154 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:36:05am

re: #151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Everybody go bye-bye?

fuck it, lets keep this volleyball airborne as long as we can

155 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:36:21am

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now... how do you get from Steve Vai to John Denver?

THAT'S HOW!

Here's one way:
First -

Then afterward -

156 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:39:03am

re: #153 reine.de.tout

And me, lurking.

skulking around the perimeter of LGF, winding your way through the colonnades of circuitry and code, looking for digital ghosts


I hear tell on the Weyland Yutani mainframe, that Count Zero went rogue. Lost himself. Went full force into the abyssal void to find the renegade datajacks. never came back.


I should have gone with him! Too afraid.

157 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:39:55am

re: #155 negativ

You're my favorite person right now

158 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:40:07am

Good Morning!
I'm putting off house cleaning as long as possible this morning...So somebody say something interesting and save me from my fate..

159 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:40:50am

re: #155 negativ

I'm picturing you at the computer with the Negativland copyright sunglasses, hitting "return" with extreme prejudice

160 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:41:44am

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Good Morning!
I'm putting off house cleaning as long as possible this morning...So somebody say something interesting and save me from my fate..

cheers hoops

#156 is as good as I can muster after being awake for 26 hours

161 Obdicut  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:44:43am

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Read this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

162 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:48:43am

re: #159 WindUpBird

I'm picturing you at the computer with the Negativland copyright sunglasses, hitting "return" with extreme prejudice

Today I learned that I'm not the only person who knows about Negativland.

163 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:52:11am

re: #156 WindUpBird

skulking around the perimeter of LGF, winding your way through the colonnades of circuitry and code, looking for digital ghosts

I hear tell on the Weyland Yutani mainframe, that Count Zero went rogue. Lost himself. Went full force into the abyssal void to find the renegade datajacks. never came back.

I should have gone with him! Too afraid.

And this folks, is what happens when too little sleep meets too much anime. :D

164 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:56:51am

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

And this folks, is what happens when too little sleep meets too much anime. :D

anime? :(

I'm namechecking William Gibson novels! Neuromancer! Count Zero! Mona Lisa Overdrive! Bruce Sterling, dude! 80's cyberpunk! Shadowrun!

I'm not really an anime fan at all. I like the world class stuff. Miyazaki, Shirow. The rest is just pop culture for Japan, not my thing at all :P

165 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:57:22am

re: #156 WindUpBirdI hear tell on the Weyland Yutani mainframe

Image: expendable2.jpg

166 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:58:18am
167 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:58:42am

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

if you haven't read Neuromancer, you should. It won the sci-fi lit triple crown. it's as important as Asimov or Heinlein. Much more so to me.

I read it as a teenager. i reread it every so often. High tech, low life. idealized dirtbags and intrigue and warring artificial intelligences in a rat-bastard future. its aesthetic is important to my subconscious :)

168 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 6:59:52am

re: #165 negativ

When I met my partner on a shitty little hole-in-the-wall Atari ST BBS in the 80s?

His handle was Wintermute :)

169 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:01:33am

re: #167 WindUpBird

if you haven't read Neuromancer, you should. It won the sci-fi lit triple crown. it's as important as Asimov or Heinlein. Much more so to me.

I read it as a teenager. i reread it every so often. High tech, low life. idealized dirtbags and intrigue and warring artificial intelligences in a rat-bastard future. its aesthetic is important to my subconscious :)

It holds up on rereading? I loved it so much when I was a teenager I've been afraid to reread it.

170 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:01:36am

re: #165 negativ

I always felt Alien films were teasing the cyberpunk vibe, never quite paying it off. I always wanted an Alien movie that took place on Earth. Fighting W-Y straight up.

171 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:01:58am

re: #164 WindUpBird

I'm not really an anime fan at all. I like the world class stuff. Miyazaki, Shirow. The rest is just pop culture for Japan, not my thing at all :P

You have clearly not watched Panty & Stocking.

:3

172 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:03:08am

re: #169 iceweasel

It holds up on rereading? I loved it so much when I was a teenager I've been afraid to reread it.

It does to me :) But Neuromancer is a book I will be buried with. And I'm not kidding.

I JUST reread Count Zero, like a month ago, and it holds up to me! Think of Gibson as noir, and you're gold.

173 Ericus58  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:03:54am

I was turned on to Gibson by a sister-in-law of my first wife.
It was awesomeness.

174 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:05:11am

re: #171 laZardo

You have clearly not watched Panty & Stocking.

:3

I actually know all about Panty and Stocking *_*

I root for it! But for TV, i want Serious Television. I watch VERY little TV, but the TV I watch, i care deeply about. I'm watching The Killing now, on AMC, and it's hitting so close to home it's making me crawl out of my skin. That show will break my heart, I can just see it happening. Anime (miyazaki aside)doesn't do that for me.

175 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:06:34am

re: #146 WindUpBird

right! and anything I do reveal, is so fictionalized that it's only the general vibe that gets through

for example, this guy isn't REALLY an internet dragon, he's into another mythical creature called a [redacted] from the movie [redacted]

In all seriousness, I did assume already that you were doing that. :)

176 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:07:51am

ever seen a TV show, where a guy onscreen, is EXACTLY a friend of yours? with a different name? and he acts the same? And you think you're dreaming?

I yelled at the screen. I couldn't believe it. The show takes place in my old hometown, in my old neighborhoods, characters like my friends. Like they behave. In situations I was in. Real art, that show. TV became more relevant than film when I was sleeping.

177 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:08:13am

re: #175 iceweasel

In all seriousness, I did assume already that you were doing that. :)

^_^;;;

178 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:11:08am

re: #176 WindUpBird

Portlandia on IFC?

179 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:15:02am

Rubber bullets leave a mark:

180 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:16:05am

re: #178 RogueOne

Portlandia on IFC?

Good Morning Rogue
Pacers put on a good game against the Bulls..Put a scare into them

181 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:16:49am

re: #179 RogueOne

There was at least one case in the US where a girl died after rubber pellets were shot into a crowd after a sporting event. Too lazy to google-- happened on the west coast, i think? Two years or so ago.

182 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:16:53am

Gunfire during Syrian demonstrations.

183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:17:24am

re: #179 RogueOne

That's gotta hurt something awful!

184 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:17:39am

re: #181 iceweasel

That guy is going to hurt for awhile. He's lucky he didn't get hit in the head. I thought I read the body count was up to 50 from yesterday.

185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:18:10am

re: #184 RogueOne

I thought it was 90.

186 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:18:24am

re: #180 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Rogue
Pacers put on a good game against the Bulls..Put a scare into them

I have to hand it to them. They've played them close the entire series. Larry Bird still sucks though.//

187 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:18:42am

re: #179 RogueOne

Rubber bullets leave a mark:

[Video]

Except when they're from our side.

188 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:19:14am

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought it was 90.

You're right. That sucks:
[Link: english.alarabiya.net...]

189 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:19:35am

re: #182 RogueOne

One thing I'm worried about if/when Assad goes: what happens to the Golan?

190 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:19:42am

yay, Gus and Hoops are in the house! Súp, my honeys?

191 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:20:19am

re: #178 RogueOne

Portlandia on IFC?

haha I actually know a great deal about that show having never seen it

But from what I hear, the comedy is actually pretty accurate :D

192 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:20:50am

re: #190 iceweasel

yay, Gus and Hoops are in the house! Súp, my honeys?

Hi Ice! I'm recovering from eating an 18 inch pizza all by my lonesome...

Burpple!

193 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:20:58am

re: #187 Gus 802

Except when they're from our side.

We use bean bags fired from shotguns. Much more humane.

194 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:21:14am

re: #193 RogueOne

We use bean bags fired from shotguns. Much more humane.

Of course.

195 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:21:24am

re: #178 RogueOne

Portlandia on IFC?

in all seriousness, The Killing is the best murder mystery TV series I have ever seen

196 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:21:59am

IFC! What's that Indiana Fried Chicken?

//

197 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:22:04am

re: #195 WindUpBird

(and you can watch all the episodes for free on AMC's website)

198 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:22:38am

re: #189 laZardo

One thing I'm worried about if/when Assad goes: what happens to the Golan?

His going down would throw the entire region into disarray. There would be a mad shuffle for power amongst a lot of different interests. It could be a good thing.

199 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:23:02am

re: #192 Gus 802

Hi Ice! I'm recovering from eating an 18 inch pizza all by my lonesome...

Burpple!

Yum! Plain cheese or what? We're making pepperoni pizza tonight-- I should shout out here to Shiplord, who gave me some great pizza making tips. Ar least, I think it was shiplord. Memory is shot. (I typed shit there at first which is also strangely accurate).

200 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:23:07am

re: #168 WindUpBird

When I met my partner on a shitty little hole-in-the-wall Atari ST BBS in the 80s?

His handle was Wintermute :)

The amusing thing is that on every BBS in the 80s (and 90s), about 25% of users were named Wintermute, Drizzt, Ghostwheel, Dr. Benway, Bob Arctor, etc.

201 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:23:19am

re: #190 iceweasel

yay, Gus and Hoops are in the house! Súp, my honeys?

I'm putting off cleaning the house, Walking the dog and grocery shopping... :)
How is everything with you?

202 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:24:20am

re: #201 HoosierHoops

I'm putting off cleaning the house, Walking the dog and grocery shopping... :)
How is everything with you?

We're good! Jimmah says hi and asks me to give you our best. :)

203 laZardo  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:24:32am

re: #198 RogueOne

His going down would throw the entire region into disarray. There would be a mad shuffle for power amongst a lot of different interests. It could be a good thing.

Especially if Hezbollah can't find a replacement benefactor.

204 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:24:59am

re: #200 negativ

The amusing thing is that on every BBS in the 80s (and 90s), about 25% of users were named Wintermute, Drizzt, Ghostwheel, Dr. Benway, Bob Arctor, etc.

it's so true ^_^

But at the time, I was a 14 year old babe in the woods going OMG COMPUTERS

My handle was NOVA! after my superhero character! because I was a comicbook teenage dumbass! :D

205 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:25:01am

re: #181 iceweasel

There was at least one case in the US where a girl died after rubber pellets were shot into a crowd after a sporting event. Too lazy to google-- happened on the west coast, i think? Two years or so ago.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

206 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:25:22am

re: #199 iceweasel

Yum! Plain cheese or what? We're making pepperoni pizza tonight-- I should shout out here to Shiplord, who gave me some great pizza making tips. Ar least, I think it was shiplord. Memory is shot. (I typed shit there at first which is also strangely accurate).

Pepperoni. Allegedly. They have an odd habit of putting it under the cheese so it's hard to tell. It was good though as it usually is. You know, not so many choices in Denver for a "real" pizza.

Pizza making tips. Now that sounds vaguely familiar. Don't remember who gave those out.

207 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:25:43am

re: #200 negativ

don't forget the Discordian/Illuminatus Trilogy and Ivan Stang/Subgenius handles!

208 Ericus58  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:26:02am

re: #203 laZardo

Especially if Hezbollah can't find a replacement benefactor.

Hezbollah has the support of Iran.

209 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:26:36am

re: #196 Gus 802

IFC! What's that Indiana Fried Chicken?

//

best non-cartoon, non-comedy central channel on cable. It's the station that plays the Onion Network show.
[Link: www.ifc.com...]

210 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:26:40am

re: #205 negativ

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Ugh. Yes, this was it:

Victoria Snelgrove (October 29, 1982 – October 21, 2004) was a junior majoring in journalism at Emerson College. She had transferred from Fitchburg State College in the fall of 2003. She was unintentionally hit with a non-lethal crowd-control round and mortally wounded by Boston police officer Rochefort Milien on October 21, 2004 when she was 21 years old. This was about 90 minutes after the Boston Red Sox's victory over the New York Yankees in the 2004 American League Championship Series.

The incident occurred near Fenway Park when an FN 303 blunt trauma / pepper spray projectile hit her eye, causing her to bleed excessively. Ambulances were blocked by the excessive crowds which still refused to clear the area, preventing prompt medical attention from arriving from the dense medical area only a half-mile away.[1]

Snelgrove died at 12:50 p.m. EDT at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, about 12 hours after being shot. According to the autopsy, the pellet opened a three-quarter-inch hole in the bone behind the eye, broke into nine pieces, and damaged the right side of her brain. A video of the scene shows the crowd dispersing once they realized the severity of her injury as she lay face-down on the ground bleeding.

thanks for finding it. Poor woman, so sad.

211 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:26:47am

re: #208 Ericus58

Hezbollah has the support of Iran.

bring out the golden oldies
bring out the hezbollah
businessmen in south miami
humming the aor

212 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:27:39am

re: #209 RogueOne

best non-cartoon, non-comedy central channel on cable. It's the station that plays the Onion Network show.
[Link: www.ifc.com...]

Looks Canadian.

//

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:27:56am

re: #209 RogueOne

I actually think it's AMC which is the mightiest cable channel these days, but I love me some IFC

214 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:28:12am

re: #212 Gus 802

Looks Canadian.

//

it reeks of effort!

215 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:30:34am

re: #210 iceweasel

Ugh. Yes, this was it:

thanks for finding it. Poor woman, so sad.

Wouldn't want to take the chances of letting people damage property. Right? Heh. Remember the "Oakland" dumpster burning butthurt?

216 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:30:56am

They're burning dumpsters! Shoot them!

//Wingnut

217 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:31:11am

re: #211 WindUpBird

if you can find me another reasonably mainstream rock song that rhymes "hezbollah" with anything, in any seriousness, I'd love to hear it

I think that may be the only one

218 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:32:29am

re: #181 iceweasel

There was at least one case in the US where a girl died after rubber pellets were shot into a crowd after a sporting event. Too lazy to google-- happened on the west coast, i think? Two years or so ago.

That's sad. Still, its often better than letter the crowd run amok. Less-lethal shotgun munitions definitely have a place, but they're only less lethal: sometimes they kill anyways.

219 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:32:39am

re: #206 Gus 802

Pepperoni. Allegedly. They have an odd habit of putting it under the cheese so it's hard to tell. It was good though as it usually is. You know, not so many choices in Denver for a "real" pizza.

Pizza making tips. Now that sounds vaguely familiar. Don't remember who gave those out.

Not sure where you live but I loved the Calzones at this place, it's in aurora:
[Link: www.legendsofaurora.com...]

220 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:34:36am

the poor Roma [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

seriously, I can't believe how nasty Europe is to the Roma

221 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:34:38am

I watch the latest Family Guy on Hulu last night. Man, that show is weird -- even for me.

222 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:35:08am

re: #221 Gus 802

I watch the latest Family Guy on Hulu last night. Man, that show is weird -- even for me.

WatchED. Sproink. PIMF or whatever.

223 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:36:28am

re: #221 Gus 802

it's all shotgun cultural references for gen-Xers. Fun show! But sorta exhausting :P

224 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:37:18am

re: #223 WindUpBird

it's all shotgun cultural references for gen-Xers. Fun show! But sorta exhausting :P

Oops. Made a mistake! I meant American Dad.

225 kirkspencer  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:37:52am

re: #181 iceweasel

There was at least one case in the US where a girl died after rubber pellets were shot into a crowd after a sporting event. Too lazy to google-- happened on the west coast, i think? Two years or so ago.

The training for both rubber and wooden (no I'm not kidding) "non-lethal" bullets is to shoot at the feet or a little in front of the crowd. There are several good reasons for this. First, of course, very few people die from bruises to the feet and legs (though broken kneecaps are still an issue). Second, the impact with the ground takes an edge off the velocity. Third, it's more likely the slug will hit more than one person. Fourth, it's more likely to knock the people down, and people who fall down get a bigger "reality" check than people just knocked backward (slug to the chest of a large minority).

Unfortunately, the training for "center of mass for firearms" overwhelms the specific non-lethal training far too often.

226 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:38:45am

re: #207 WindUpBird

don't forget the Discordian/Illuminatus Trilogy and Ivan Stang/Subgenius handles!

227 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:40:14am

re: #225 kirkspencer

It doesn't seem the syrian forces are all that concerned with the "non-lethality" reasoning behind their use.

228 kirkspencer  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:41:30am

re: #227 RogueOne

It doesn't seem the syrian forces are all that concerned with the "non-lethality" reasoning behind their use.

Nope.

229 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:41:43am

re: #225 kirkspencer

The training for both rubber and wooden (no I'm not kidding) "non-lethal" bullets is to shoot at the feet or a little in front of the crowd. There are several good reasons for this. First, of course, very few people die from bruises to the feet and legs (though broken kneecaps are still an issue). Second, the impact with the ground takes an edge off the velocity. Third, it's more likely the slug will hit more than one person. Fourth, it's more likely to knock the people down, and people who fall down get a bigger "reality" check than people just knocked backward (slug to the chest of a large minority).

Unfortunately, the training for "center of mass for firearms" overwhelms the specific non-lethal training far too often.

Not a surprise. In a crisis, people will fall back on their primary training. Moreover, with a pepper gas round you'd want to lob it into the middle of the crowd to maximize its effectiveness.

230 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:42:19am

Shouldn't forget about Bahrain either:

Bahrain's secret terror: Emails speak of 'genocide' as doctors are rounded up
[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]


At least 32 doctors, including surgeons, physicians, paediatricians and obstetricians, have been arrested and detained by Bahrain's police in the last month in a campaign of intimidation that runs directly counter to the Geneva Convention guaranteeing medical care to people wounded in conflict. Doctors around the world have expressed their shock and outrage.

One doctor, an intensive care specialist, was held after she was photographed weeping over a dead protester. Another was arrested in the theatre room while operating on a patient.

Many of the doctors, aged from 33 to 65, have been "disappeared" – held incommunicado or at undisclosed locations. Their families do not know where they are. Nurses, paramedics and ambulance staff have also been detained.

231 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:42:57am

re: #227 RogueOne

It doesn't seem the syrian forces are all that concerned with the "non-lethality" reasoning behind their use.

No, they wouldn't be. If it weren't for world opinion, they'd just use lethal rounds and a 'streetsweeper' wide choke and be done with it.

232 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:43:13am

re: #230 RogueOne

Shouldn't forget about Bahrain either:

Bahrain's secret terror: Emails speak of 'genocide' as doctors are rounded up
[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]

Bahrain. The "forgotten" tyranny.

233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:45:24am

Dolphin fans? Brandon Marshall's wife is under arrest for stabbing him last night.

234 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:46:20am

re: #224 Gus 802

Oops. Made a mistake! I meant American Dad.

American Dad is bad for the first two seasons, and then it's completely insane and awesome :D

235 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:46:59am

re: #231 Dark_Falcon

No, they wouldn't be. If it weren't for world opinion, they'd just use lethal rounds and a 'streetsweeper' wide choke and be done with it.

His daddy killed 20k, he has some catching up to do. That wasn't all that long ago, I'm impressed with such huge crowds when what happened in Hama has to be in the back of their minds.

236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:47:06am

re: #224 Gus 802

Good morning, USA!

237 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:47:18am

re: #226 negativ

one of these days I gotta take a picture of my custom FNORD neon sign

238 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:47:51am

re: #234 WindUpBird

American Dad is bad for the first two seasons, and then it's completely insane and awesome :D

Yeah. This one had the alien, Roger?, having "sex" with Snot. But he was really "penetrating" a stress ball.

239 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:48:00am

re: #230 RogueOne

Shouldn't forget about Bahrain either:

Bahrain's secret terror: Emails speak of 'genocide' as doctors are rounded up
[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]

Nothing will happen to help those people. The West needs oil and keeping Bahrain's Shia down is the price of getting it.

240 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:48:46am
241 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:49:23am

re: #240 Gus 802

he is the most evil character, and thus the funniest character

242 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:49:42am
243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:52:44am

Watching 100 greatest players in the NFL... Merlin Olsen just just a few guys ago. They just showed Gale Sayers.

Showed a play... Gale Sayers made Merlin Olsen look like a fool.

Thought that was funny.

244 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:52:53am

re: #241 WindUpBird

he is the most evil character, and thus the funniest character

I'd like to see the people from Fox Entertainment in the same room with Fox News. It's really a confusing contrast between the two. Ah vel.

245 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:53:44am
246 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:54:35am
247 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:55:03am

re: #244 Gus 802

I'd like to see the people from Fox Entertainment in the same room with Fox News. It's really a confusing contrast between the two. Ah vel.

I just figure Murdoch is playing the whole world for fools, all around, and Fox in general likes success, soo....

248 darthstar  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:55:53am

re: #244 Gus 802

I'd like to see the people from Fox Entertainment in the same room with Fox News. It's really a confusing contrast between the two. Ah vel.

Fox Entertainment works because Fox News lets themselves be mercilessly mocked by their own network family...and their cross-over viewers (news and entertainment) are too ignorant to know they're the butt of the joke.

249 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:56:11am

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Guide to Spring Produce

Kalegore's guide to a failed spring crop! He can't even keep slugs away!1 My butt still hurts from when he spanked Hot Air!!1 DERP!!!11

/Stalker Blog

250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:56:50am

Holy crap! Top 100 players in the NFL history...

Number 21? Tom Brady.

Holy hell! Who's above that?

251 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:57:24am
252 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:57:30am

Grrrrrrr! Again with that "security scan" pop-up. Damn it Janet!

253 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:57:58am

re: #252 Gus 802

Grrr! Again with that "security scan" pop-up. Damn it Janet!

RHPS? So early in the day?

254 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:58:19am

re: #248 darthstar

Fox Entertainment works because Fox News lets themselves be mercilessly mocked by their own network family...and their cross-over viewers (news and entertainment) are too ignorant to know they're the butt of the joke.

Fox News doesn't have a choice. Rupert Murdoch wants to make money and FNC jokes on Fox Entertainment get laughs and allow Fox to say "I'm not with Stupid", which is important to keep Fox mainstream.

255 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:58:41am

re: #253 iceweasel

RHPS? So early in the day?

It's never too early to pursue "the urge"!

//

256 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 7:59:06am

re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap! Top 100 players in the NFL history...

Number 21? Tom Brady.

Holy hell! Who's above that?

Walter Payton, at a guess.

257 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:00:02am

re: #253 iceweasel

RHPS? So early in the day?

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:00:04am

re: #256 Dark_Falcon

There's one.

I'm just amazed that they have 20 better. Three or four maybe. But, 20?

259 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:03:02am

A Perfectly Good Vampire Sex Fantasy, Ruined.

If you're a fan of Dracula, True Blood, Twilight or The Vampire Diaries, you'll get a kick out of this almost-sorta-NSFW commercial from the UK. Damon Salvatore never has this problem, does he?

I think this ad is brilliant.

261 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:03:56am

re: #255 Gus 802

It's never too early to pursue "the urge"!

//

It's just a jump-- to THE LEFT!
Mwhahahaha....

262 darthstar  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:05:03am

re: #252 Gus 802

Grrr! Again with that "security scan" pop-up. Damn it Janet!

I'm sure Dr. Frankenfurter can help. Give him seven days.

263 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:05:18am
264 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:05:49am

re: #251 iceweasel

Swan Falls In Love With Tractor

From your link, via one the links on the page:

Mexico wants to sue U.S. gun makers

CBS News has learned that the Mexican Government has retained an American law firm to explore filing civil charges against U.S. gun manufacturers and distributors over the flood of guns crossing the border into Mexico.

Sources say Mexico's frustration with U.S. efforts to stop the flow of weapons has pushed them into this novel approach. The law firm is looking at charges that may include civil RICO. The contract was signed on November 2, 2010 by a representative of Mexico's Attorney General, at their Washington embassy.

On November 5, 2010 President Felipe Calderon expressed his frustration to CBS News correspondent Peter Greenberg: "We seized more than 90,000 weapons...I am talking like 50,000 assault weapons, AR-15 machine guns, more than 8,000 grenades and almost 10 million bullets. Amazing figures and according to all those cases, the ones we are able to track, most of these are American weapons."

According to sources, investigators will obtain makes and serial numbers of guns seized by Mexican authorities and trace them to their U.S. distributors and manufacturers.

Luckily, it looks like the case is a non-starter:

Christopher Renzulli of New York, who has represented U.S. gun makers for fifteen years, says he believes this would be a difficult case for the Mexican government to win. "The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act would bar that kind of lawsuit from the start. The law, passed in 2005 has resulted in several lawsuits against gun makers being dismissed.

Still, I'd urge Congress stop all aid to Mexico if the case is not dropped. The Mexican governmetn should not be permitted to interfere in lawful US commerce.

265 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:06:36am

Uh oh! Gunz! Run for the hills!!!

//

266 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:07:25am

re: #263 Gus 802

Image: william-perry.jpg

Go Bears! Sorry, I had to say it. Big sports time here in Chicago. Baseball's underway and both the Blackhawks and Bulls made the playoffs.

267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:07:45am

They just put Brett Favre one ahead of Tom Brady.

Uh...

268 darthstar  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:08:05am

re: #263 Gus 802

Image: william-perry.jpg

I thought he was governor of Texas.

269 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:08:44am

re: #268 darthstar

I thought he was governor of Texas.

That would be something.

270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:08:49am

re: #268 darthstar

He's very sad now. Terrible health.

271 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:09:21am

re: #270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's very sad now. Terrible health.

Guillain-Barré Syndrome

272 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:11:38am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Still, I'd urge Congress stop all aid to Mexico if the case is not dropped. The Mexican governmetn should not be permitted to interfere in lawful US commerce.

That makes it kinda hard for us to complain about the border violence, etc. then doesn't it? We're either all in this together to try and make things better on both sides of the border or we aren't. This movement of weaponry and ammo has to be making it harder.

273 darthstar  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:11:50am

re: #267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They just put Brett Favre one ahead of Tom Brady.

Uh...

These "who gives a fuck what some sportswriter thinks" lists of the Top 100 change all the time. Steve Young was a decent quarterback, but he's a milk drinking fool whose brain has been rattled so many times he can't even do Toyota commercials anymore. Lyle Alzado made a steroid-induced comeback and then died from them.

274 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:11:52am
275 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:12:50am

Sounds like a combination sound including an alternator belt going out.

//

276 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:13:37am

re: #251 iceweasel

Swan Falls In Love With Tractor

Also linked from that page is this funny cat video:

277 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:13:46am

What's that sound?

Well that's either your water pump or there's a penguin under your hood.

//

278 darthstar  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:15:10am

re: #274 Gus 802

Might be time to tickle the penguin.

[Video]

Thanks...that little fucker will entertain forever on Youtube, which is good because he is getting braised for easter dinner.

279 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:15:22am

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

Also linked from that page is this funny cat video:

[Video]

You know I'm always a sucker for a cute kitty video.

Here's one for you from jimmah:

280 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:16:10am

re: #279 iceweasel

You know I'm always a sucker for a cute kitty video.

Here's one for you from jimmah:

[Video]

Oh dear. That's funny.

281 BongCrodny  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:17:55am

Morning, Lizards, from a very wet corner of the northeastern U.S.

I'm sure anyone who is a fan knows that the new season of Doctor Who starts tonight on BBC America, but I thought I'd throw in a reminder for any newbies who might want to hop aboard the TARDIS for a test ride.

RUN!!

282 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:18:06am

re: #272 allegro

That makes it kinda hard for us to complain about the border violence, etc. then doesn't it? We're either all in this together to try and make things better on both sides of the border or we aren't. This movement of weaponry and ammo has to be making it harder.

Then we aren't. I'm not willing to regard this as anything but Mexico's interference in US commerce.

283 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:18:42am

re: #274 Gus 802

Might be time to tickle the penguin.

[Video]

"Tickle the penguin" sounds related to this reddit thread:
[Link: www.reddit.com...]

284 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:19:34am

re: #279 iceweasel

You know I'm always a sucker for a cute kitty video.

Here's one for you from jimmah:

[Video]

LOL! thanks.

285 sattv4u2  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:20:10am

re: #274 Gus 802

Might be time to tickle the penguin.

[Video]

Is that what you kids call it nowadays

Do you put a little tuxedo and a top hat on yours!?!?

286 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:20:16am

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

Victory is mine. My personal frog army has defeated the plague of slugs!

287 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:20:17am
288 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:20:40am

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

Then we aren't. I'm not willing to regard this as anything but Mexico's interference in US commerce.

Goodness gracious, we certainly don't want to be putting lives over commerce in priority of importance now do we?

289 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:22:04am

Repeat...

Navy Soldiers Bonded with 3 Stowaway Kittens

It happened when Eric Hanst and his fellow soldiers were Navy deployed overseas. When they were in port for a few days, they were greeted by an unexpected guest. “A cat came aboard via mooring line. We lost track of her, and found her later that evening. We managed to get her back to the pier, and waved goodbye as we took off. This cat seemed unusually upset by this,” said Hanst.

What they did not know was that the cat didn’t just come alone. “It turns out, when she managed to sneak on board, she also managed to smuggle on three kittens. We thought she had given birth on the ship, but it was pointed out to us that they were too big to be only a few days old.”

When they were sailing off, no one on board was aware of the kittens. The little ones were very confused, looking for their mom for almost four days until they were discovered in the machine shop. “We found one initially and the other two a couple hours afterwards,” Hanst added...

290 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:25:33am

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

Then we aren't. I'm not willing to regard this as anything but Mexico's interference in US commerce.

seems a bit unfair for us to be beating up on Mexico, it isn't like we have the moral authority to be doing so

"Hey, you! impoverished country! How about another kick in the ovaries! Yeah! We're America! Tough guys!"

291 kirkspencer  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:25:39am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

From your link, via one the links on the page:

Mexico wants to sue U.S. gun makers

Luckily, it looks like the case is a non-starter:

Still, I'd urge Congress stop all aid to Mexico if the case is not dropped. The Mexican governmetn should not be permitted to interfere in lawful US commerce.

I think that's an overreaction. Also, it ignores some minor realities. For example, Mexico is a major source of our oil. (Declining, as the main oilfield is depleting, but still major). For example, a fair chunk of our aid is in the attempt to clamp down on the drug dealers who are purchasing the weapons.

So, get the case tossed, call them idiots, and help figure out a way to stop the drug trade/firearms in Mexico trade. Otherwise you're cutting off your nose to spite your face.

292 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:27:25am

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

Then we aren't. I'm not willing to regard this as anything but Mexico's interference in US commerce.

I mean they are very brown, and their scheming citizens infect America each and every day, and that's just not right, it's gotta be the other way, right? We exploit them! That's the natural order!


We really should take no prisoners, shit, let's just flatten the whole joint, leave nothing for the roaches


293 Political Atheist  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:28:05am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Maybe they should sue ATF... Who let so many guns "walk" into cartel possession.

294 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:28:35am

re: #292 WindUpBird

I mean they are very brown, and their scheming citizens infect America each and every day, and that's just not right, it's gotta be the other way, right? We exploit them! That's the natural order!

We really should take no prisoners, shit, let's just flatten the whole joint, leave nothing for the roaches

[Video]

So, you turn commerce and gun running into race baiting? Good turn.

295 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:29:22am

re: #293 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe they should sue ATF... Who let so many guns "walk" into cartel possession.

I'm honestly surprised there isn't a bigger brown power underground in Arizona

296 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:29:50am
297 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:30:12am

Now you know why I said "run for the hills". ;)

298 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:30:29am

re: #289 Gus 802

Repeat...

Navy Soldiers Bonded with 3 Stowaway Kittens

Worth repeating! Killing me with cuteness!

299 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:30:56am

re: #298 iceweasel

Worth repeating! Killing me with cuteness!

Cause of death: cute overload.

//

300 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:31:02am

re: #297 Gus 802

Now you know why I said "run for the hills". ;)

Like a old biddy at the fence.

301 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:31:46am

re: #294 Walter L. Newton

So, you turn commerce and gun running into race baiting? Good turn.

I turn weird and uninformed comments into spun flaxen gold, which I then weave into my hair and waltz around the dias like a pretty pretty princess


HOW DARE YOU STAND ON MY PETTICOATS, GOOD SIR!

302 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:31:48am

Hey Ice, you've gotta see this vid:

303 BongCrodny  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:32:18am

re: #296 Gus 802

Simon's Cat 'Cat Man Do'

[Video]

Awesome.

304 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:32:23am

re: #297 Gus 802

Now you know why I said "run for the hills". ;)

That's in D, right?

305 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:32:24am
306 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:34:55am

re: #281 BongCrodny

you can now purchase a Tardis coffin, by the same people who brought us the KISS coffin.

true fax!

307 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:36:53am

re: #292 WindUpBird

Racebaiting FAIL. It's not an issue of race, its about sovereignty. It also looks like a fishing expedition. There's no link between the companies that make the guns and the cartels. What we really need is a firearms trafficking law in the US. We won't actually get one, though, because both parties would use any such proposal to play to their base instead of trying to cut a deal. The left would want onerous restrictions on merchants who sell guns, and the right would consider any change as "gun grabbing socialism".

308 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:37:19am

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

my favorite part about lawful US commerce is the part where actual mexicans have their skulls and spines shot into hamburger by lawful US commerce, aka weapons of war that we manufacture gleefully


What're they so pissed off about? They're only mexicans!

309 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:39:13am

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

you're the one who said we should cut off aid because the feeelthy mexicans dared sue us :)

What's a few million bullets among friends?

Still, I'd urge Congress stop all aid to Mexico if the case is not dropped. The Mexican governmetn should not be permitted to interfere in lawful US commerce.

SQUASH THE UNBELIEVERS!

310 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:40:19am

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

Hey Ice, you've gotta see this vid:

[Video]

I love it! So does Jimmah, he watched over my shoulder and we laughed. I love the screechy meow at about 40 sec.

311 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:40:23am

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

There's no link between the companies that make the guns and the cartels. What we really need is a firearms trafficking law in the US. We won't actually get one, though, because both parties would use any such proposal to play to their base instead of trying to cut a deal. The left would want onerous restrictions on merchants who sell guns, and the right would consider any change as "gun grabbing socialism".

Since the US won't do anything to address the issue then, what else is Mexico to do? If nothing else this can bring the issue to public awareness so MAYBE a conversation can happen and steps can be taken to stop some of the flow of weaponry.

312 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:40:53am

Michael Sarrazin, Actor, Dies at 70

Michael Sarrazin, a leading man in the late 1960s and 1970s who led Jane Fonda around the dance floor in the Depression drama “They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?” and played Paul Newman’s misunderstood half-brother in “Sometimes a Great Notion,” died on Sunday in Montreal. He was 70.

Image: SARRAZIN-obit-popup.jpg

313 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:43:11am

re: #307 Dark_Falcon

There's no link between the companies that make the guns and the cartels.

Why does this sound like the argument that there is no link between cigarette manufacturers and illnesses/deaths in smokers?

314 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:43:36am

re: #287 Gus 802

Kittens and soldiers!

More here.

The navy doesn't have soldiers they have sailors. You'll notice how clean and well fed they look plus soldiers are dog people.

//branch flame war!

315 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:43:58am

re: #311 allegro

Since the US won't do anything to address the issue then, what else is Mexico to do? If nothing else this can bring the issue to public awareness so MAYBE a conversation can happen and steps can be taken to stop some of the flow of weaponry.

If they want to speak, then we will hear them. But a lawsuit is a threat, and will be taken as such. Moreover, I don't even want to think about what the wingnuts in places like Texas are going to do with this. My guess is that there'll be a hate crime resulting from this lawsuit. However, if that does happen, I'd also want the assholes who committed said hate crime given prison terms.

316 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:44:13am

re: #314 RogueOne

The navy doesn't have soldiers they have sailors. You'll notice how clean and well fed they look plus soldiers are dog people.

//branch flame war!

Thwack! Yeah, I was looking at that but decided to not care. ;)

317 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:44:56am

re: #316 Gus 802

Thwack! Yeah, I was looking at that but decided to not care. ;)

It could be worse, they could be air force.

318 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:45:03am

Friends don't let friends turn into comic book guy.

//

319 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:45:35am

I wonder if Navy is still on vacation with his wife. I'm feeling the urge to slap him around a little bit!

320 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:46:10am

re: #296 Gus 802

Simon's Cat 'Cat Man Do'

[Video]

Awesome. Reminds me of my own cat who sometimes wakes me up by approaching me in a gingerly fashion, then stretching out her paw and clawing me in the eye.

321 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:46:12am

re: #313 allegro

Why does this sound like the argument that there is no link between cigarette manufacturers and illnesses/deaths in smokers?

same word choice, I guess. The difference is that there is clear scientific evidence of a link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer. No such link between drug cartels and US gun manufacturers has been found.

322 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:47:35am

War Dog of the week:

[Link: ricks.foreignpolicy.com...]

Lots of pics:
Image: parachuting%20dogb.jpg

323 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:47:56am

re: #321 Dark_Falcon

same word choice, I guess. The difference is that there is clear scientific evidence of a link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer. No such link between drug cartels and US gun manufacturers has been found.

I'm going to have to disagree with that. The evidence is quite clear that there is a link between firearms and death by bullet.

324 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:47:56am

re: #320 Jimmah

Awesome. Reminds me of my own cat who sometimes wakes me up by approaching me in a gingerly fashion, then stretching out her paw and clawing me in the eye.

You will wake up!

325 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:49:59am

re: #322 RogueOne

War Dog of the week:

[Link: ricks.foreignpolicy.com...]

Lots of pics:
Image: parachuting%20dogb.jpg

Image: puppy98037639b.jpg

326 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:51:15am
327 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:51:42am

It's snowing... I got an inch up here.

328 Political Atheist  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:52:11am

re: #308 WindUpBird
re: #308 WindUpBird

What're they so pissed off about? They're only mexicans!


Race card? Really?
Straw man purchases, and illegal transfers of possession are not legal commerce. Law enforcement sales are an example of legal commerce. When you or I buy a gun that's legal commerce. For you to conflate those with cartel purchases is just not good logic. Conflation of very different circumstances.

Since we do actually have laws on the books to criminalize gun running (To Mexico and anywhere else) why would another law help? The 9th circuit chose to render a decision about straw man purchases that was clearly against the intent of the law, that weakened the law... Why blame gun makers for the Governments inability to enforce? Particularly when the legislature got it right, and a famously liberal circuit court (9th) undermined it. How about just tuning up what we have and adding resources to enforce?

Since existing laws do not have enough resources enforcing them, another law just thins the enforcement efforts further. So we have a correct assessment of the problem and a misguided solution proposed.

How about we extradite gun runners to Mexico for prosecution under Mexican law?

329 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:55:23am

re: #328 Rightwingconspirator

re: #308 WindUpBird


Race card? Really?
Straw man purchases, and illegal transfers of possession are not legal commerce. Law enforcement sales are an example of legal commerce. When you or I buy a gun that's legal commerce. For you to conflate those with cartel purchases is just not good logic. Conflation of very different circumstances.

Since we do actually have laws on the books to criminalize gun running (To Mexico and anywhere else) why would another law help? The 9th circuit chose to render a decision about straw man purchases that was clearly against the intent of the law, that weakened the law... Why blame gun makers for the Governments inability to enforce? Particularly when the legislature got it right, and a famously liberal circuit court (9th) undermined it. How about just tuning up what we have and adding resources to enforce?

Since existing laws do not have enough resources enforcing them, another law just thins the enforcement efforts further. So we have a correct assessment of the problem and a misguided solution proposed.

How about we extradite gun runners to Mexico for prosecution under Mexican law?

QFT

330 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:55:23am

War cats infiltrate enemy line and proceed to eventually wake-up the enemy early in the morning to be fed resulting in sleep deprivation of the enemy!

//

331 Political Atheist  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:56:08am

re: #311 allegro

Since the US won't do anything to address the issue then, what else is Mexico to do? If nothing else this can bring the issue to public awareness so MAYBE a conversation can happen and steps can be taken to stop some of the flow of weaponry.


Too many people ignore the efforts here to stop gun running and straw man purchases.

Why the heck is it anti gun people deny and deliberately ignore existing laws and efforts on gun control? They are addicted to "pass another law", for political points.

Like this one.. That Bloomberg thwarted.
[Link: www.opposingviews.com...]
Is the firearms industry doing anything to assist law enforcement in combatting the criminal acquistion of firearms through straw purchasing?

Yes. NSSF, in partnership with with ATF, developed the Don't Lie for the Other Guy dealer education and public awareness campaign to help firearms dealers to be better able to detect and deter potential illegal straw purchases and to raise public awareness that it is a serious crime to purchase a firearm for someone who cannot legally do so. The campaign drives home the message that anyone attempting an illegal firearm purchase faces a stiff federal penalty, including 10 years in jail. This national program has been in existence since July of 2000. About 30,000 retailer educational kits, including a training video, have been distributed nationwide.

Unfortunately, Mayor Bloomberg refused to permit NSSF the opportunity to address a gathering of mayors this past spring at Gracie Mansion about the Don't Lie for the Other Guy program.

332 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:56:33am

re: #330 Gus 802

War cats infiltrate enemy line and proceed to eventually wake-up the enemy early in the morning to be fed resulting in sleep deprivation of the enemy!

//

They are also used in anti-terrorist operations, having proved very successful in severing supply ratlines. ;)

333 Political Atheist  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:56:44am

BBL

334 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:57:13am

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

They are also used in anti-terrorist operations, having proved very successful in severing supply ratlines. ;)

They're also good at "wiring".

//

335 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:58:02am

How do we cut the enemy telephone lines captain?

Cats.

//

336 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:02:20am

Via Consumerist:
[Link: www.good.is...]

Protest as performance art:


Yesterday London's stately Tate Britain, the oldest gallery in London's network of Tate museums, got an unexpected new installation. On the anniversary of the BP oil spill, a group of artist-activists removed a bench in one of the museum's large galleries, and poured "oil" (actually a mixture of charcoal and sunflower oil) over a naked co-conspirator who lay on the floor.

Why? The unsanctioned performance piece, called "Human Cost," was a protest by the group Liberate Tate, which has been trying to get Tate to end its relationship with BP—a relationship which basically consists of BP buying good publicity by giving the museum money and then putting its logo everywhere. As Terry Taylor, a member of Liberate Tate, said, "Oil companies like BP are responsible for environmental and social controversy all over the world, and we can’t let their sponsorship of institutions like Tate detract from that fact."

Here's the irony, though: Liberate Tate was actually founded during a 2010 workshop on art and activism sponsored by the Tate. During the workshop, the group says, the Tate tried to prevent participants from doing anything that would embarrass the museum's sponsors. Suffice it to say, that kind of backfired.

Very tasteful video of the demonstration at the link.

337 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:04:32am

re: #330 Gus 802

War cats infiltrate enemy line and proceed to eventually wake-up the enemy early in the morning to be fed resulting in sleep deprivation of the enemy!

//

Here they come!

338 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:06:27am

Papa Johns royal wedding pizza:
[Link: consumerist.com...]

Image: pizza-thumb-600x426-49971.jpg

339 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:07:27am

re: #337 Jimmah

Here they come!

[Video]

Funny. Who does the cat animation?

340 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:09:50am
341 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:13:19am

re: #340 Gus 802

Found it...

Joel Veitch

Here is his Magnum Opus:

342 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:14:01am

Image: 800px-Joel_Veitch_at_ROFLCon_II.jpg

Looks like Steve Buscemi and Dave Foley had a baby.

//

343 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:16:06am

re: #341 Jimmah

Here is his Magnum Opus:

[Video]

The catocalypse is upon us!

//

344 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:19:05am

TIGERS LIONS VS Easter Eggs

345 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:19:13am

"Everybody In The House Of LovE!"
Royal wedding look alikes.
Cheers, Kate and Will!!!
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

346 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:22:15am

re: #344 Killgore Trout

TIGERS LIONS VS Easter Eggs

[Video]

It's funny how even the big cats get silly with those sorts of things. You know like paper bags, boxes, crumpled wads of paper, paper! They all have a thing about paper and other paper products.

347 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:26:35am

re: #346 Gus 802

It's funny how even the big cats get silly with those sorts of things. You know like paper bags, boxes, crumpled wads of paper, paper! They all have a thing about paper and other paper products.

hehe.
Put a box full of those foam peanuts on the floor and see what your cats will do.

348 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:27:10am

Has everybody been following the Terry Jones saga in Dearborn? (I mean besides putting a round through his floorboard). I was reading about it last night but I had forgotten all about it. He's out of jail this morning.

349 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:27:52am

re: #348 RogueOne

Has everybody been following the Terry Jones saga in Dearborn? (I mean besides putting a round through his floorboard). I was reading about it last night but I had forgotten all about it. He's out of jail this morning.

As is Lohan! Hmmm, speak of the devil.

350 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:28:04am

re: #346 Gus 802

It's funny how even the big cats get silly with those sorts of things. You know like paper bags, boxes, crumpled wads of paper, paper! They all have a thing about paper and other paper products.

Further proof... Tikki Boo... his first Christmas... 2010...

Image: tikki.JPG

351 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:30:12am

re: #350 Walter L. Newton

Further proof... Tikki Boo... his first Christmas... 2010...

Image: tikki.JPG

Kitteh Cuteness Overload! System shutting down!

BBL

352 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:34:10am

NASA photo of Egypt.

You can also see Israel swinging up to the right there.

353 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:35:16am

Massachusetts Court: Marijuana Smell Not Enough for Traffic Stop
Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court rules a police officer may no longer search a motorist merely on the basis of smelling pot.
[Link: www.thenewspaper.com...]


The highest court in Massachusetts ruled Tuesday that a police officer is not justified in stopping and searching an automobile merely because he smells the presence of marijuana. The Supreme Judicial Court took up the case of Benjamin Cruz to clarify the legal impact of a 2008 voter referendum that had decriminalized possession of less than one ounce of pot in the Bay State.
.....
"By mandating that possession of such a small quantity of marijuana become a civil violation, not a crime, the voters intended to treat offenders who possess one ounce or less of marijuana differently from perpetrators of drug crimes," Ireland wrote. "Here, no facts were articulated to support probable cause to believe that a criminal amount of contraband was present in the car. We conclude, therefore, that in this set of circumstances a magistrate would not, and could not, issue a search warrant. Because the standard for obtaining a search warrant to search the car could not be met, we conclude that it was unreasonable for the police to order the defendant out of the car in order to facilitate a warrantless search of the car for criminal contraband under the automobile exception."
354 BishopX  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:36:45am

re: #353 RogueOne

Note that this only applies to stopped cars. Since OUI is still a crime, officers can stop a moving vehicles and search it if they smell weed.

355 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:36:47am

re: #352 Gus 802

NASA photo of Egypt.

You can also see Israel swinging up to the right there.

Caption:

One of the fascinating aspects of viewing Earth at night is how well the lights show the distribution of people. In this view of Egypt, the population is shown to be almost completely concentrated along the Nile Valley, just a small percentage of the country’s land area. The Nile River and its delta look like a brilliant, long-stemmed flower in this photograph of the southeastern Mediterranean Sea, as seen from the International Space Station. The Cairo metropolitan area forms a particularly bright base of the flower. The smaller cities and towns within the Nile Delta tend to be hard to see amidst the dense agricultural vegetation during the day. However, these settled areas and the connecting roads between them become clearly visible at night. Likewise, urbanized regions and infrastructure along the Nile River becomes apparent. Scattered blue-grey clouds cover the Mediterranean Sea and the Sinai, while much of northeastern Africa is cloud-free. The thin yellow-brown band tracing the Earth’s curvature at the top of the image is airglow, a faint band of light emission that results from the interaction of atmospheric atoms and molecules with solar radiation at an altitude of approximately 60 miles (100 kilometers). This astronaut photograph was taken by the Expedition 25 crew on Oct. 28, 2010, with a Nikon D3S digital camera using a 16 mm lens. Image Credit: NASA

356 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:38:39am

re: #354 BishopX

Note that this only applies to stopped cars. Since OUI is still a crime, officers can stop a moving vehicles and search it if they smell weed.

According to the article...

The highest court in Massachusetts ruled Tuesday that a police officer is not justified in stopping and searching an automobile merely because he smells the presence of marijuana.

357 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:39:49am

re: #355 Gus 802

Caption:

Interesting. And 3000 years ago, you would have been able to see the same population patterns along the Nile. In general, nothing has changed. The Nile is a source of life for that region.;

358 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:40:13am

Today's wingnut blogosphere fake outrage: Obummer is responsible for high gas prices!

The fucking idiots never stop with this brain-dead nonsense.

359 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:40:57am

re: #357 Walter L. Newton

Interesting. And 3000 years ago, you would have been able to see the same population patterns along the Nile. In general, nothing has changed. The Nile is a source of life for that region.;

From up in space the city lights remind me of fires.

360 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:41:59am

High gas prices... it's Bush's fault...

"How Bush Pushed Gasoline Prices Sky High "

[Link: www.yuricareport.com...]

361 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:44:14am

re: #360 Walter L. Newton

High gas prices... it's Bush's fault...

"How Bush Pushed Gasoline Prices Sky High "

[Link: www.yuricareport.com...]

Magical Balance Fairy on a hair trigger.

362 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:45:03am

re: #358 Charles

Today's wingnut blogosphere fake outrage: Obummer is responsible for high gas prices!

The fucking idiots never stop with this brain-dead nonsense.

The spike in Brent crude began well before US/NATO involvement in Libya. Other considerations of course is other ME turmoil including Egypt, Syria, etc. Obama played no role in these events and the greatest contributin factor is Libya. Brent is still lower than it's maximum price which was in 2008 when it hit upwards of 140. Right now it's about 122. Gasoline though is slightly higher than 2008.

363 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:45:08am

re: #361 Charles

Magical Balance Fairy on a hair trigger.

Damn good.

364 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:45:36am

re: #363 Walter L. Newton

Damn good.

Of course, you realize the two cases have absolutely nothing in common, but that's what you do.

365 BishopX  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:45:58am

re: #356 allegro

My bad, I was remembering a quote from the DA:

“The consensus is that this ruling applies to a very narrow fact pattern, in that the car was stationary when the officers approached,’’ said Jake Wark, a spokesman for the Suffolk district attorney’s office. “As a result, it’s too early to tell what effect [the new law] will have on when a moving vehicle is stopped and an officer smells smoke.’’

The two people involved in this case were in a parked car with the windows rolled down when the police smelled smoke.

366 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:47:25am
367 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:48:59am

re: #365 BishopX

The two people involved in this case were in a parked car with the windows rolled down when the police smelled smoke.

Gotcha. In thinking about it more, it seems that it could not be proven if the driver was smoking and under the influence while driving. Unlike alcohol which shows up in the breath/blood only for a short time and clearly demonstrating that one is probably impaired, marijuana stays in the system for weeks. Impairment at the time of driving really couldn't be ever proven, could it?

368 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:49:55am

re: #366 Walter L. Newton

Image: BlameBush.jpg

Haha, great picture.

369 prairiefire  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:50:15am

We are going to a "flash mob" today.

370 blueraven  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:50:18am

re: #366 Walter L. Newton

Image: BlameBush.jpg

He had nothing to do with it.

371 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:53:56am

Right wingers feel it's their God-given right to waste as much energy as they possibly can, just for the sheer hell of it. But if the price goes up as the supply dries up, they scream bloody murder and blame it on Obama.

If Obama says he can't do anything in the short run to lower prices, they scream, "He says we just have to get used to it!" (That's what all the right wing blogs are parroting today.)

Well, Obama didn't say it but I will. Yes, you're going to have to get used to paying more for gas. America has had an artificially low price on gasoline for many years, while the rest of the world paid for it. Those days are coming to an end.

372 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:55:43am

re: #371 Charles

Right wingers feel it's their God-given right to waste as much energy as they possibly can, just for the sheer hell of it.

I suspect they have a very good reason for it... in their own minds. They know it pisses off liberals/hippies. That's what they live for methinks. It seems to give them great satisfaction even as they acting against their own interests.

Strange.

373 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:57:33am

re: #371 Charles

Right wingers feel it's their God-given right to waste as much energy as they possibly can, just for the sheer hell of it. But if the price goes up as the supply dries up, they scream bloody murder and blame it on Obama.

If Obama says he can't do anything in the short run to lower prices, they scream, "He says we just have to get used to it!" (That's what all the right wing blogs are parroting today.)

Well, Obama didn't say it but I will. Yes, you're going to have to get used to paying more for gas. America has had an artificially low price on gasoline for many years, while the rest of the world paid for it. Those days are coming to an end.

Earlier, pitching the promise of energy independence in Pennsylvania, Obama cautioned that it's going to be tough to transition from America's oil-dependent economy and acknowledged there's little he can do to lower gasoline prices over the short term.

"I'm just going to be honest with you. There's not much we can do next week or two weeks from now," the president told workers at a wind turbine plant outside Philadelphia."

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

374 blueraven  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:59:04am

re: #371 Charles

Right wingers feel it's their God-given right to waste as much energy as they possibly can, just for the sheer hell of it. But if the price goes up as the supply dries up, they scream bloody murder and blame it on Obama.

If Obama says he can't do anything in the short run to lower prices, they scream, "He says we just have to get used to it!" (That's what all the right wing blogs are parroting today.)

Well, Obama didn't say it but I will. Yes, you're going to have to get used to paying more for gas. America has had an artificially low price on gasoline for many years, while the rest of the world paid for it. Those days are coming to an end.

NO! Trump can fix this. He will give OPEC hell if he is President. And if that doesn't work he will file a chapter something or another on their ass!

375 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:59:20am

re: #366 Walter L. Newton

I hope you just happened to pick that from a search, rather than saw it because you've been hanging around at Human Events.

376 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:59:26am

re: #373 Walter L. Newton

Right. Exactly what I said. Obama told the crowd he couldn't do much to lower prices in the short term.

Is there a point to posting that, or did you just want to confirm what I said?

377 RogueOne  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 9:59:59am

re: #354 BishopX

Note that this only applies to stopped cars. Since OUI is still a crime, officers can stop a moving vehicles and search it if they smell weed.

I took that as sarcasm

378 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:01:04am

re: #376 Charles

Right. Exactly what I said. Obama told the crowd he couldn't do much to lower prices in the short term.

Is there a point to posting that, or did you just want to confirm what I said?

I was confirming what he said.

379 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:01:27am

re: #378 Walter L. Newton

I was confirming what he said.

Good, then you agree with me.

380 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:03:02am

re: #379 Charles

Good, then you agree with me.

It happens, only very rarely.

381 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:03:17am

Science has vanquished religion, but not its evils:

The astronomer royal accepting the Templeton prize is a casual endorsement of all that is wrong with religion

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

382 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:05:49am

re: #380 Walter L. Newton

It happens, only very rarely.

Well, see -- it's become completely impossible to tell when you're serious, or when you're doing the usual passive aggressive troll thing.

If that's what you wanted, you've succeeded.

383 Simply Sarah  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:06:17am

re: #367 allegro

Gotcha. In thinking about it more, it seems that it could not be proven if the driver was smoking and under the influence while driving. Unlike alcohol which shows up in the breath/blood only for a short time and clearly demonstrating that one is probably impaired, marijuana stays in the system for weeks. Impairment at the time of driving really couldn't be ever proven, could it?

Well, I'm not all that familiar with our laws on the matter, but I'd think that it may be possible for things to be similar to laws against open containers in a vehicle. Like, even if possession of small amounts isn't a crime (And, therefore, isn't something allowing a search), perhaps the fact that you were driving while people were smoking could be cause for searching? It'd probably be helpful for me to read the opinion, but eh.

384 zora  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:06:45am

[Link: politicalwire.com...]


Lawmaker Claims Voting is Not a Right

Minnesota House Speaker Kurt Zellers (R) claimed that voting is "a privilege, it's not a right," according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

this will be followed by: "not intended to be a true statement"

385 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:07:24am

re: #31 researchok

Whirling Dervish, right?

Yep.

386 BishopX  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:15:18am

re: #377 RogueOne

No, that's paraphrasing the DA's spokesperson. Convincing the Cops/DA's in MA that something isn't actually a crime is a very hard thing to do. The controversy over cell phone videos is a prime example of this.

387 Interesting Times  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:18:36am

re: #372 allegro

I suspect they have a very good reason for it... in their own minds. They know it pisses off liberals/hippies. That's what they live for methinks. It seems to give them great satisfaction even as they acting against their own interests.

I wonder what would happen if it were said that drinking water contaminated with raw sewage is bad, and liberal/hippie types get very sad when they see people do it.

388 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:18:58am

Last night, there were thought to be 2 different strikes resulting in massive explosions at Zintan and Tripoli. However, looking around I found out that this was one strike that hit a base about 75 km outside Tripoli. The explosion was felt in both Zintan and Tripoli, and was heard about 300 km away. The base held Scud Missiles, and apparently a whole hell of a lot more.

389 allegro  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:21:40am

re: #387 publicityStunted

I wonder what would happen if it were said that drinking water contaminated with raw sewage is bad, and liberal/hippie types get very sad when they see people do it.

Meet RW asploding heads... or lots of diarrhea and ralphing.

390 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:22:15am
391 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:27:19am

re: #387 publicityStunted

I wonder what would happen if it were said that drinking water contaminated with raw sewage is bad, and liberal/hippie types get very sad when they see people do it.

Something like this:

392 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:30:16am

What will we do without Beck to kick around any more?* Fox could hire this guy:

And he doesn't even need a blackboard. It remains to be seen whether he can fill a whole time slot though.

*Like Nixon, I don't think he will really be going very far.

393 BARACK THE VOTE  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:30:46am

Republicans To Screen 9/11 First Responders To See If They’re Terrorists

The tens of thousands of cops, firefighters, construction workers and others who survived the worst terrorist assault in U.S. history and risked their lives in its wake will soon be informed that their names must be run through the FBI’s terrorism watch list, according to a letter obtained by HuffPost. [...]

Kline, who sits on the Fealgood Foundation’s board, said he personally wasn’t offended, but couldn’t think of a good reason for cops and firefighters to be screened by the FBI in order to keep getting treatment. [...]

“Is the idea that a terrorist stayed to help clean up? And then stayed all these years to try and get benefits?” he asked. “In all the things I’ve seen out of Washington, this probably takes the cake.”

Well, it makes sense! Why were those first responders so close to the scene, huh? Bravery? The Republicans in Congress know of no such thing. Republicans hate terrorists, and Republicans don’t like people who need health benefits, so doesn’t it stand to reason that all people Republicans oppose are terrorists? Yes.

Why does the GOP hate America?

394 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:31:40am

re: #388 ProLifeLiberal

I'm, curious to see what people think was in that base to create such a powerful boom. No conventional bomb NATO has can do that on its own.

395 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:31:45am

re: #392 Shiplord Kirel


*Like Nixon, I don't think he will really be going very far.

Aaarrghh! I know, syntax error. PIMF

396 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:34:51am

re: #394 ProLifeLiberal

I'm, curious to see what people think was in that base to create such a powerful boom. No conventional bomb NATO has can do that on its own.

The liquid propellants for Scud-derived missiles could easily do it if they get mixed in bulk.

397 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:36:25am

re: #396 Shiplord Kirel

I kinda wish there was video. That would be an Awesome Explosion to see.

Like the Pepconn blast?

398 Gus  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 10:47:37am

Yippee! I won 10 bucks. No biggie but it's nice to get something back from those darn scratch games.

399 jamesfirecat  Sat, Apr 23, 2011 5:08:46pm

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

From your link, via one the links on the page:

Mexico wants to sue U.S. gun makers

Luckily, it looks like the case is a non-starter:

Still, I'd urge Congress stop all aid to Mexico if the case is not dropped. The Mexican governmetn should not be permitted to interfere in lawful US commerce.

Dark step the f*** up your game.

For example, if a US drilling platform spills oil in the gulf, and it washes ashore on Mexican beaches, and Mexico decides that it needs to sue the company that owns the oil platform for the ecological damage it has caused them, would they be "interfearing in lawful US commerce"?

If I'm wrong in my analogy please spell out how so....


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