Why Sen. Ensign Really Quit: Other Women, At Least One More Staffer

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WingnutsApril 2011 • Views: 33,923

WHY SEN. ENSIGN REALLY QUIT (Hint: It wasn’t, as his statement claimed, because of concern about his family): N.Y. Times’ Eric Lipton reports the Nevada Republican was going to have to give sworn testimony about his sex scandal to the Senate Ethics Committee on May 4. His resignation takes effect May 3. What a guy!

—“Ensign bolted to avoid more public embarrassment,” by John Bresnahan and Manu Raju: “Ensign told associates that he was ‘100 percent certain’ the Ethics Committee would hold public hearings into the scandal … The ethics panel is still likely to issue a public report laying out its findings.”

Sources tell Playbook that Ensign knew he could face questions about OTHER WOMEN and at least one additional staffer.

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174 comments

iceweasel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:49:52am

I am shocked, shocked that there is gambling at Ricks.

lawhawk Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:52:02am

re: #1 iceweasel

Youtube Video

Targetpractice Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:52:05am

re: #1 iceweasel

I am shocked, shocked that there is gambling at Ricks.

Here are your winnings, monsieur.

jaunte Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:52:47am

But Ensign told associates that he was “100 percent certain” the Ethics Committee would hold public hearings into the scandal, turning a private matter into a media-free-for-all, one of his friends said.

When working as a ‘public servant,’ I don’t think messing around with staffers that are also on the public payroll can remain a ‘private matter.’

iceweasel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:53:30am

re: #2 lawhawk

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That never gets old for me.

Back OT, I wonder how many of these C Street bastards have to be exposed before politicians keep kowtowing to the Family.

prairiefire Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:53:30am

Hubba hubba, gettin’ his carnal on.

Targetpractice Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:55:05am

So, he bolts from office the day before he’d have to give sworn testimony. What better way to avoid painful and embarrassing sound bites in future political runs?

elizajane Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:56:08am

But now that they say that the congressional investigation will continue regardless, can he unresign? I’m sure that’s what he’s wondering, as he bangs his empty head against a wall.

iceweasel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:56:55am

re: #7 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So, he bolts from office the day before he’d have to give sworn testimony. What better way to avoid painful and embarrassing sound bites in future political runs?

Sounds like he should be worried about painful and embarrassing smackdowns from his family— the one he claimed he was stepping down to take care of. Yeah, he’s a real gentleman, this one.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:57:03am

Bill Clinton committed a “felony” while I just made a “mistake”. — John Ensign (more or less).

Apparently now we see it’s not a mistake. Instead it’s the plural: mistakes.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:58:26am

John Ensign, asshat:

“Sadly, the effort to redefine marriage against the wishes of a majority of the people is, with help from activist judges, succeeding,” Ensign said. “In order to defend the institution of marriage, uphold the rights of individual states, and maintain the will of the people, I believe we are compelled to amend our country’s constitution.”

“The effort to pass a constitutional amendment reaffirming marriage as being between a man and a woman only is being undertaken strictly as a defense of marriage against the attempt to redefine it and, in the process, weaken it,” Ensign said. “Marriage is an extremely important institution in this country and protecting it is, in my mind, worth the extraordinary step of amending our constitution.”

and

“I came to that conclusion recently, and frankly it’s because of what he put his whole Cabinet through and what he has put the country through,” Ensign said Thursday, becoming the first member of the Nevada delegation to call for Clinton to quit. “He has no credibility left.”

iceweasel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:58:48am

re: #10 Gus 802

Bill Clinton committed a “felony” while I just made a “mistake”. — John Ensign (more or less).

Apparently now we see it’s not a mistake. Instead it’s the plural: mistakes.

and passive tense, surely: Mistakes were made. Who knows how?/

iceweasel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:59:15am

re: #11 Gus 802

John Ensign, asshat:

and

IOKIYAR.

Targetpractice Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:59:34am

re: #9 iceweasel

Sounds like he should be worried about painful and embarrassing smackdowns from his family— the one he claimed he was stepping down to take care of. Yeah, he’s a real gentleman, this one.

It never makes a stitch of sense, when these scumbags make a run for the exit while bleating that they’re resigning so as to “spend more time with my family” or to avoid “hurting them.” Yet apparently their family never entered into their mind when they were deciding whether or not to drop trou.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:00:38pm

re: #14 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It never makes a stitch of sense, when these scumbags make a run for the exit while bleating that they’re resigning so as to “spend more time with my family” or to avoid “hurting them.” Yet apparently their family never entered into their mind when they were deciding whether or not to drop trou.

Well, you never see the announcements of “A woman flashed me this morning and made me an offer, but I declined because I want to spend more time in my marriage. (And not be a creep)”

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:05:43pm

Such audacity. Calling to amend the Constitution to oppose gay marriage while boinking women behind his wife’s back.

“Sadly, the effort to redefine marriage against the wishes of a majority of the people is, with help from activist judges, succeeding,”

“In order to defend the institution of marriage, uphold the rights of individual states, and maintain the will of the people, I believe we are compelled to amend our country’s constitution.”

“The effort to pass a constitutional amendment reaffirming marriage as being between a man and a woman only is being undertaken strictly as a defense of marriage against the attempt to redefine it and, in the process, weaken it,”

“Marriage is an extremely important institution in this country and protecting it is, in my mind, worth the extraordinary step of amending our constitution.”

Senator Ensign, I didn’t realize that committing adultery was a way for heterosexuals to reaffirm their commitment to their marriages.

Baboon Cheeks Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:07:07pm

What makes wingnuts tick anyway?

littlegreenfootballs.com

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:08:40pm

Amazing. Saint Reagan got divorced and had a child only 7 months after his divorce. Now how did that happen?

* Ronald Reagan - divorced the mother of two of his children. Married Nancy Davis who bore him a daughter only 7 months after the marriage.
* Bob Dole - divorced the mother of his child, who had nursed him through the long recovery from his war wounds.
* Newt Gingrich - divorced his wife who was dying of cancer.
* Dick Armey - Former House Majority Leader - divorced
* Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas - divorced
* Gov. John Engler of Michigan - divorced
* Former Gov. Pete Wilson of California - divorced
* George Will - divorced
* Sen. Lauch Faircloth - divorced
* Rush Limbaugh - Rush and his current wife Marta have six marriages and four divorces between them.
* Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia - Barr has been married three times. Barr had the audacity to author and push the “Defense of Marriage Act.”
The current joke making the rounds on Capitol Hill is “Bob Barr, WHICH marriage are you defending?”
* Sen. Alfonse D’Amato of New York - divorced
* Sen. John Warner of Virginia - divorced (once married to Liz Taylor)
* Gov. George Allen of Virginia - divorced
* Henry Kissinger - divorced
* Rep. Helen Chenoweth of Idaho - divorced
* Sen. John McCain of Arizona - divorced
* Rep. John Kasich of Ohio - divorced
* Rep. Susan Molinari of New York (2000 Republican National Convention Keynote Speaker) - divorced

iceweasel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:10:38pm

re: #16 Gus 802

Such audacity. Calling to amend the Constitution to oppose gay marriage while boinking women behind his wife’s back.

Senator Ensign, I didn’t realize that committing adultery was a way for heterosexuals to reaffirm their commitment to their marriages.

Manson Family Values.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:11:06pm

re: #18 Gus 802

I do genealogy. LOTS of oldest babies are precocious and only require seven months to gestate, including Winston Churchill, who despite having been 10 pounds at birth was EARLY and the result of his mother riding in a carriage over rough roads or something. He was EARLY and nobody in the Churchil family will hear otherwise.

In fairness to Nancy, she had nothing to do with Reagan’s divorce. Jane Wyman got bored.

wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:12:18pm

re: #18 Gus 802

Rush Limbaugh - Rush and his current wife Marta have six marriages and four divorces between them.

His current wife’s name is Kathryn. I’m not sure how that alters the statistics.

One can see why they feel the institution requires some defense. What that has to do with gay people is still a mystery.

Shiplord Kirel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:13:58pm

re: #5 iceweasel

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That never gets old for me.

Back OT, I wonder how many of these C Street bastards have to be exposed before politicians keep kowtowing to the Family.

The Fellowship, aka “the Family,” is one of the most sinister organizations in the United States. It probably matches the conspiracy industry’s “all-powerful secret society” trope more closely than any other real world group. They literally believe they have a different set of rules, based on instant forgiveness for powerful men.

Journalist Jeff Sharlet did intensive research in the Fellowship’s archives, before they were closed to the public. He also spent a month in 2002 living in a Fellowship house near Washington, and wrote a magazine article describing his experiences. In his 2008 book about the Family, he criticized their theology as an “elite fundamentalism” that fetishizes political power and wealth, consistently opposes labor movements in the U.S. and abroad, and teaches that laissez-faire economic policy is “God’s will.” He criticized their theology of instant forgiveness for powerful men as providing a convenient excuse for elites who commit misdeeds or crimes, allowing them to avoid accepting responsibility or accountability for their actions.

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:14:45pm

Go forth and multiply!
/family values

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:14:56pm

re: #18 Gus 802

Divorce is some kind of special shame for all those people?

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:15:40pm

re: #24 Rightwingconspirator

Divorce is some kind of special shame for all those people?

Only when one is a moralizing homophobic douche bag. So yes by association.

wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:16:05pm

re: #20 EmmmieG

A tiny cousin of mine in her forties just had a 10 pound baby. Now I’m learning all about breastfeeding on Facebook.

I found the TMI button, fortunately.

Baboon Cheeks Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:16:06pm

Ice and I are working our way through our shortlist of Easter stoner movies. Tonight it’s no3: Samson and Delilah.

Night all :)

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:16:58pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Do they all fit that description?

CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:18:22pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel

The Fellowship, aka “the Family,” is one of the most sinister organizations in the United States. It probably matches the conspiracy industry’s “all-powerful secret society” trope more closely than any other real world group. They literally believe they have a different set of rules, based on instant forgiveness for powerful men.

I just ordered & received that book this week. I’ve been really busy the past few months and haven’t had much time for recreational reading, but as soon as I finish off the last 2 chapters of Republican Gomorrah, I’m gonna start on The Family. Every time I glance at it on my bedside table, I feel both anticipation and dread at what I’m going to learn.

efuseakay Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:18:22pm

SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE!
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Oh wait.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:19:24pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

Do they all fit that description?

Heck if I know. Maybe I’m a little bit verklempt over the never ending sanctimonious bullshit coming from the GOP.

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:21:00pm

re: #31 Gus 802
Understandable, certainly.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:21:38pm

re: #32 Rightwingconspirator

Understandable, certainly.

Maybe I should breath into a paper bag. ;)

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:22:16pm

Breathe that is.

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:24:42pm

re: #34 Gus 802

A nice toke perhaps. Inhale. Then you may breathe easier this fine Saturday. (BTW, a bit annoyed myself, drove over an hour only to be turned back by a road closure near my beautiful destination.)

CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:25:08pm

re: #34 Gus 802

Breathe that is.

Do you realize that your karma is only like 320 up-dings away from 100K?? Whoa!

Let’s make it 319…

allegro Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:25:27pm

For the most part I am discomforted by hearing about the sexual escapades of others and feel that as long as they are doing their jobs well that their bedroom habits are none of my business. It really should be left between them and their partners and/or families. However, when they make their job the monitoring of other people’s sexuality and activities with finger wagging, demonizing, and freedom compromising laws, all bets are off.

Fuck ‘em and let them rot in the stink of their hypocrisy.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:26:09pm

Reading about the C street place now. Why are they getting free cleaning from college-aged interns who are not paid? Interns are supposed to be learning valuable life skills, not vacuuming hallways.

Do they report this? Should they have to report it as a gift or pay taxes?

(Sorry if I seem touchy, but as the chief cleaner in this house, I am fully aware how much work actually goes into keeping a place clean, and it irritates me when people act as those they are someone special and shouldn’t have to pick up and do their share. Yes, I am eyeballing you, eleven year-old son.)

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:26:26pm

re: #36 CuriousLurker

Do you realize that your karma is only like 320 up-dings away from 100K?? Whoa!

Let’s make it 319…

Tanks! Yeah, I noticed it was coming up on 100K the other day. Woohoo! When I hit it I get a new car! ;)

wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:27:28pm

re: #39 Gus 802

Tanks! Yeah, I noticed it was coming up on 100K the other day. Woohoo! When I hit it I get a new car! ;)

With what kind of mileage? Hmmm?

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:28:17pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

With what kind of mileage? Hmmm?

What else! A low mileage 17 MPG muscle car. /

Shiplord Kirel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:28:29pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

Do they all fit that description?

Most of the people on the list are not fundamentalists, but they do align with fundamentalist causes and values in many cases. Ensign, the only Pentecostal in the Congress, is an exception. He is a full-blown holy roller.

Fundamentalists, in turn, definitely stigmatize divorce. 30 years ago, I was engaged to a really beautiful young teacher here in West Texas. It was my fault I didn’t marry her, and I regret that deeply, but opposition from her parents’ was also a factor, a big one. Her parents were fundamentalists. Her father was a well-known fundy theologian and writer in fact. They opposed the marriage because I was divorced. They accepted that the divorce was not my fault, and they believed I was justified in seeking it. Nevertheless, they insisted that it disqualified me from a further marriage as long as my first wife was still alive.
My ex-fiancee went on to marry a faithful church-going type who did not have this stigma. Ironically, they are now divorced. Sure enough, her now-aged parents insist that she cannot re-marry, even though she is 57 years old now.

CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:28:53pm

re: #39 Gus 802

Tanks! Yeah, I noticed it was coming up on 100K the other day. Woohoo! When I hit it I get a new car! ;)

Let me know which one you want.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:30:06pm

re: #43 CuriousLurker

Let me know which one you want.

This one. /

Winny Spencer Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:30:09pm

Here is something to cogitate on.

Would America be ready for an asexual president?

CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:30:59pm

re: #44 Gus 802

This one. /

Consider it yours. :)

Shiplord Kirel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:31:33pm

re: #45 Winny Spencer

Here is something to cogitate on.

Would America be ready for an asexual president?

There was Nixon but it’s arguable whether we were really ready for him.

wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:31:48pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

Ironically, they are now divorced. Sure enough, her now-aged parents insist that she cannot re-marry, even though she is 57 years old now.

Presumably she got the divorce without their permission, so she could re-marry without their permission. I hope she doesn’t have to wait until they die.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:32:15pm

re: #46 CuriousLurker

Consider it yours. :)

They always got mixed in with the Matchbox cars. Then there was “the kid down the street” that had the carrying case.

Targetpractice Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:32:16pm

re: #41 Gus 802

What else! A low mileage 17 MPG muscle car. /

Sorry, but we can only spare one of these:

Image: car8.jpg

CuriousLurker Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:34:58pm

*sigh* Now the cats have to start. BBL

Shiplord Kirel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:36:23pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

Presumably she got the divorce without their permission, so she could re-marry without their permission. I hope she doesn’t have to wait until they die.

I’m not sure they opposed the divorce, just as they did not disapprove of mine in and of itself. They do accept adultery as valid grounds and her old man was apparently something of an alley cat. It is just re-marriage that they oppose. They believe it is de facto adultery.

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:36:46pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

Unfortunately marriage values went from one extreme to the other. The middle ground was just blown right by in that societal shift. Too bad really.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:37:13pm

But no I never judge regular people for being divorced.

Stanghazi Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:38:27pm

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel

That’s just sad. Would be nice if she grew a backbone against her parents though. 57!!! Come on!

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:39:21pm

My folks have been married for 56 years. Which reminds me. I need to call them.

Linden Arden Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:42:21pm

“Why Ensign Really Quit” - damn, I read this and immediately thought, to be Gingrich’s running mate.

Gus Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:52:36pm

BBL

Shiplord Kirel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:55:52pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

That’s just sad. Would be nice if she grew a backbone against her parents though. 57!!! Come on!

Her parents’ attitude is an example of something I’ve noticed over and over from Fundamentalists: They love to use their version of the literal word to justify what is otherwise an obvious injustice. In my case, my wife had committed adultery with my brother, run away with him (taking my daughter with them), and had not told anyone where they were for two weeks. Yet, according to fundamentalists I was required to keep my vows to the traitorous bitch and never remarry lest I be committing adultery too.
An example from history: It was barbarically cruel to kill a confused old woman for trying to cast spells, but the Bible said witches should not be suffered to live, so off to the stake she went.
The Hamitic curse so beloved of racists is probably the biggest example of a Bible-based unjustice, one that persists to this day in certain circles.

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:56:44pm

Another reason to grow your own: Potentially Salmonella Tainted Cucumbers Recalled In 9 US States

Shiplord Kirel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 12:56:52pm

re: #57 Linden Arden

“Why Ensign Really Quit” - damn, I read this and immediately thought, to be Gingrich’s running mate.

Maybe Newt will tire of the current wife and pass her along to Ensign.

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:01:45pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout
I have no yard for a garden. But I do have one of these…

We got fresh herbs coming in a few weeks.

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:02:03pm

For the cooks on a budget: Ramen Hacks: 30+ Easy Ways to Upgrade Your Instant Noodles
I suggest throwing away the flavor packets altogether. It’s just msg and salt. A little seasoning, a little very and a condiment or two is all you need.

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:03:14pm

re: #62 Rightwingconspirator

I have no yard for a garden. But I do have one of these…

We got fresh herbs coming in a few weeks.

I have an outdoor garden but I dabble in indoor hydroponics too.. It helps get me through the winter.

celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:03:19pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Another reason to grow your own: Potentially Salmonella Tainted Cucumbers Recalled In 9 US States

Exactly why we need to cut even more from the FDA inspection budget. After all if you are stupid enough to eat something you didn’t grow or raise and slaughter yourself, you deserve what you get.
//
(Do I have to??)

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:06:00pm

re: #65 celticdragon

Exactly why we need to cut even more from the FDA inspection budget. After all if you are stupid enough to eat something you didn’t grow or raise and slaughter yourself, you deserve what you get.
//
(Do I have to??)

Well, the FDA is a big part of the problem. The food rules require a lot of the chemicals and preservatives that we eat way too much of. Even with Mrs Obama’s efforts I don;t think we’ll see common sense food policy in this country anytime soon.

Linden Arden Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:06:44pm

Great news on Rep. Giffords — (I looked at LGF Pages - not there)

“One thing she frequently comes back to is, you know, going back to work. Going back to her office. And - you know, how important it is for her to serve her constituents,” Kelly said.

“She talks about that all the time. Going back to Tucson. I mean, she wants to get back to Tucson. She wants to get back to her district. She wants to get back to Washington.”

Link

What a courageous couple - they make me proud for this country.

blueraven Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:06:54pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

Another reason to grow your own: Potentially Salmonella Tainted Cucumbers Recalled In 9 US States

I just planted several cucumbers. Also Strawberries and squash, tomatoes and several herbs. The tomatoes, I planted late last month (seedlings) are already starting to produce small tomatoes. Should be ready to start eating some of those over the next month. Its been in the 90s here in TX.

BongCrodny Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:07:34pm

“It’s not fair! Other senators don’t have to keep it in their pants, how come I have to?”

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:09:22pm

re: #68 blueraven

I haven’t put my tomatoes out yet. I did plant some beans but the weather here has been funky. Everything else is going to have to wait another week or two.

celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:09:41pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

I have an outdoor garden but I dabble in indoor hydroponics too.. It helps get me through the winter.

Buying hydroponics equipment is a really great way yo have your door kicked down by the police…

I suppose the guy should be grateful, though.

In Prince George County, Maryland (or an awful lot of Virgina, etc), they would have shot all of his pets immediately and then had an accidental discharge into his chest with an MP-5 submachine gun when he complained about his butchered pets.

celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:11:11pm

re: #66 Killgore Trout

Well, the FDA is a big part of the problem. The food rules require a lot of the chemicals and preservatives that we eat way too much of. Even with Mrs Obama’s efforts I don;t think we’ll see common sense food policy in this country anytime soon.

Because spoilage and botulism are a bit of an inconvenience for your digestive tract.

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:12:25pm

re: #71 celticdragon

Buying hydroponics equipment is a really great way yo have your door kicked down by the police…

I suppose the guy should be grateful, though.

In Prince George County, Maryland (or an awful lot of Virgina, etc), they would have shot all of his pets immediately and then had an accidental discharge into his chest with an MP-5 submachine gun when he complained about his butchered pets.

I’ve heard rumors about that here too. At least in Portland the cops don’t bother much with pot anymore. Most of the busts seem to happen when people get pulled over by troopers on the highways.

reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:14:07pm

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel

Most of the people on the list are not fundamentalists, but they do align with fundamentalist causes and values in many cases. Ensign, the only Pentecostal in the Congress, is an exception. He is a full-blown holy roller.

Fundamentalists, in turn, definitely stigmatize divorce. 30 years ago, I was engaged to a really beautiful young teacher here in West Texas. It was my fault I didn’t marry her, and I regret that deeply, but opposition from her parents’ was also a factor, a big one. Her parents were fundamentalists. Her father was a well-known fundy theologian and writer in fact. They opposed the marriage because I was divorced. They accepted that the divorce was not my fault, and they believed I was justified in seeking it. Nevertheless, they insisted that it disqualified me from a further marriage as long as my first wife was still alive.
My ex-fiancee went on to marry a faithful church-going type who did not have this stigma. Ironically, they are now divorced. Sure enough, her now-aged parents insist that she cannot re-marry, even though she is 57 years old now.

She needs to just live in sin, then, with somebody.
hehehe.

Simply Sarah Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:14:46pm

re: #71 celticdragon

Buying hydroponics equipment is a really great way yo have your door kicked down by the police…

I suppose the guy should be grateful, though.

In Prince George County, Maryland (or an awful lot of Virgina, etc), they would have shot all of his pets immediately and then had an accidental discharge into his chest with an MP-5 submachine gun when he complained about his butchered pets.

Wait. The fact that someone purchased hydroponics equipment is now enough to qualify as probable cause? What the hell?

allegro Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:20:41pm

re: #75 Simply Sarah

Wait. The fact that someone purchased hydroponics equipment is now enough to qualify as probable cause? What the hell?

Hydroponics, yes… guns, no. What’s wrong with this picture?

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:22:08pm

re: #75 Simply Sarah

Not really, but it has been abused as such. One manufacturer had their entire customer list (years and years of sales) taken by law enforcement. Of course the theory is hardly baseless, as hydroponic equipment is used by pot growers.

Of course gun registrations are not used to pursue possible armed robbers… Buying a cargo van really does not attract Immigration authorities…

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:25:37pm

re: #76 allegro

Hydroponics, yes… guns, no. What’s wrong with this picture?

Check this out…

Excerpt
That’s when Mann switched gears again: He’d create “the first honest hydro store,” one that didn’t perpetuate the charade that its customers are spending thousands of dollars growing amazing tomatoes.

Shiplord Kirel Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:27:19pm

On a lighter note, I can’t even imagine trying to tell my daughter who she should marry. She would give me “the look,” (so heartbreakingly like her mother’s) and say something like, “That remind me, daddy, have you been tested for dementia yet?”

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:27:40pm

re: #77 Rightwingconspirator

Not really, but it has been abused as such. One manufacturer had their entire customer list (years and years of sales) taken by law enforcement. Of course the theory is hardly baseless, as hydroponic equipment is used by pot growers.

Of course gun registrations are not used to pursue possible armed robbers… Buying a cargo van really does not attract Immigration authorities…

A few months ago I researched the possibility of legally growing weed for registered medical marijuana patients. It didn’t take me very long to figure out the medical marijuana scene in Portland is really sketchy and having your information stored on a government computer seems like a quick way to end up in jail.

allegro Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:28:38pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

Ramen Hacks: 30+ Easy Ways to Upgrade Your Instant Noodles

I was having a craving for something crunchy/yummy to munch on just before I read that. Turns out I had a cheese and jalapeno flavored ramen thingie in the pantry. Did what the article suggested, crunched it all up together and munched it right outa the package. It was great! Thanks!

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:29:22pm

re: #81 allegro

I was having a craving for something crunchy/yummy to munch on just before I read that. Turns out I had a cheese and jalapeno flavored ramen thingie in the pantry. Did what the article suggested, crunched it all up together and munched it right outa the package. It was great! Thanks!

Ha! Good timing, glad you enjoyed it.

Stanghazi Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:29:51pm

Reine, you here? Just got this off twitter

rtlewis777 Ronald Lewis

Sister of LSU coach Miles killed in car accident flne.ws on Fluent News

Awful

allegro Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:30:11pm

re: #78 Rightwingconspirator

That’s when Mann switched gears again: He’d create “the first honest hydro store,” one that didn’t perpetuate the charade that its customers are spending thousands of dollars growing amazing tomatoes.

heh.

Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:31:43pm

re: #71 celticdragon

Buying hydroponics equipment is a really great way yo have your door kicked down by the police…

I suppose the guy should be grateful, though.

In Prince George County, Maryland (or an awful lot of Virgina, etc), they would have shot all of his pets immediately and then had an accidental discharge into his chest with an MP-5 submachine gun when he complained about his butchered pets.

I regularly buy parts for my business at hydro shops, they know lighting and fluid movement. I also have my algae on a 12/12 lighting cycle. Two indicators for a grow op. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to have my door kicked in. Of course all they will only ever find is less than an oz plus a lawsuit.

Simply Sarah Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:33:44pm

re: #77 Rightwingconspirator

Not really, but it has been abused as such. One manufacturer had their entire customer list (years and years of sales) taken by law enforcement. Of course the theory is hardly baseless, as hydroponic equipment is used by pot growers.

Of course gun registrations are not used to pursue possible armed robbers… Buying a cargo van really does not attract Immigration authorities…

Right. It’s certainly something that could reasonably indicate further inquiry, but by itself it shouldn’t be sufficient (This is assuming there wasn’t more that they were going on).

celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:35:26pm

re: #75 Simply Sarah

Wait. The fact that someone purchased hydroponics equipment is now enough to qualify as probable cause? What the hell?

Yes. The Fourth Amendment has been effectively eviscerated over the last 25 years, and anything the police want, they get when it comes to getting a warrant or especially when it comes to beating the shit out of you and then charging you with resisting arrest after the fact. (The police in this case ‘seized her house and prevented her or her son from entering it when she demanded a search warrant)

Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:37:14pm

re: #87 celticdragon

You might like this if you haven’t seen it before…
Dont Talk to Police
Youtube Video

wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:39:38pm

re: #67 Linden Arden

Great news on Rep. Giffords — (I looked at LGF Pages - not there)

Link

What a courageous couple - they make me proud for this country.

They are keeping her from the public eye. She’s probably ready to face them, but I think the people close to her are concerned about how she will be received if she speaks very differently and looks different. I admire James Brady for getting out and politically active after his wound. It’s not going to be easy for Gabby, just as it still isn’t easy for him 30 years later.

reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:40:00pm

re: #83 Stanley Sea

Reine, you here? Just got this off twitter

rtlewis777 Ronald Lewis

Sister of LSU coach Miles killed in car accident [Link: flne.ws…] on Fluent News

Awful

Hey -
Yes, saw this on yesterday’s news. Awful, yes.

And last week a friend of mine lost her wonderful 24-year-old son in an auto accident, freakish kind of a thing, no one else was hurt, he was killed. Just so sudden and unexpected and awful - families really suffer with these things.

Stanghazi Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:41:17pm

re: #90 reine.de.tout

Hey -
Yes, saw this on yesterday’s news. Awful, yes.

And last week a friend of mine lost her wonderful 24-year-old son in an auto accident, freakish kind of a thing, no one else was hurt, he was killed. Just so sudden and unexpected and awful - families really suffer with these things.

Oh man.

reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:43:43pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Oh man.

He graduated college 2 years ago, we had a nice chat about our kids; and now he’s gone. It’s so strange. I can’t imagine the pain she’s in.

Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:44:21pm

re: #85 prononymous

re: #71 celticdragon
A “It could have got ugly when the cops showed up” story.
I was working at a nice gold refinery in a bad, bad neighborhood. I hear a helicopter in constant orbit over us. I go out to look and as I round a corner of our building I see several cops with guns pointed right at me. They tell me to approach them, as we are on opposite sides of a locked iron gate. I do as instructed and I have to then tell them about the gun I have on and that I work there. Right that second another guy who was in charge of the place comes strolling out wondering where I went…

Some smart and careful LAPD cops disarmed me without harm and asked me to open the gate. Except I did not have the key in my pocket. The other guy did. Whew! As it turns out a backhoe had cut our phone lines a few blocks away and triggered the red alert by our alarm company. The cops rolled up on a locked secure facility worried we had been taken over. Their professionalism kept me alive that day.

In the end we gave them a tour, and they eventually used our place to watch a crack house across Jefferson Bl. Which they eventually took down. A few months later the Rodney King riots broke out and that neighborhood had many, many fires.

Sol Berdinowitz Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:45:10pm

re: #77 Rightwingconspirator

Not really, but it has been abused as such. One manufacturer had their entire customer list (years and years of sales) taken by law enforcement. Of course the theory is hardly baseless, as hydroponic equipment is used by pot growers.

Hydroponics don’t grow dope, people do!

They can take my grow-lamps when they pry them from my cold, dead, green-thumbed hands!!!

celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:46:07pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

You might like this if you haven’t seen it before…
Dont Talk to Police

[Video]

Yep.

I know there are good, dedicated and conscientious officers out there. I also know that the justice system has nothing to really do with justice. It is about getting a result. When you meet an officer, you are dealing with a person who can kill you and whose word counts ten times the weight of yours. I recall a community organizer in Chicago was training residents to deal with the police like they would a dangerous, wild animal. In other words, speak slowly and carefully and make no sudden movements.

Basically, do not talk to the police unless you called them to begin with. They are not there to be your friend, and they will fuck you up if you give them any excuse. Say nothing, do nothing.

celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:51:15pm

re: #93 Rightwingconspirator

re: #71 celticdragon
A “It could have got ugly when the cops showed up” story.
I was working at a nice gold refinery in a bad, bad neighborhood. I hear a helicopter in constant orbit over us. I go out to look and as I round a corner of our building I see several cops with guns pointed right at me. They tell me to approach them, as we are on opposite sides of a locked iron gate. I do as instructed and I have to then tell them about the gun I have on and that I work there. Right that second another guy who was in charge of the place comes strolling out wondering where I went…

Some smart and careful LAPD cops disarmed me without harm and asked me to open the gate. Except I did not have the key in my pocket. The other guy did. Whew! As it turns out a backhoe had cut our phone lines a few blocks away and triggered the red alert by our alarm company. The cops rolled up on a locked secure facility worried we had been taken over. Their professionalism kept me alive that day.

In the end we gave them a tour, and they eventually used our place to watch a crack house across Jefferson Bl. Which they eventually took down. A few months later the Rodney King riots broke out and that neighborhood had many, many fires.

You were really fucking lucky.

This poor bastard in Long Beach never had a chance. He was playing with a sprinkler nozzle last December and he was shot to pieces by two officers who were concealed in bushes nearby after they were called by a neighbor who thought the guy had a gun.

He had a damned sprinkler.

The Long Beach police spokesman admitted the two officers did not identify themselves or demand that he drop the object, and it seems the guy had no idea that the police were even there at all. They opened fire with a shotgun and a semi auto pistol.

albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:51:52pm

re: #92 reine.de.tout

He graduated college 2 years ago, we had a nice chat about our kids; and now he’s gone. It’s so strange. I can’t imagine the pain she’s in.

I would be blind with grief…it’s just unimaginable, my kids are so precious to me….90% of my entire existence

albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:54:03pm

re: #96 celticdragon

You were really fucking lucky.

This poor bastard in Long Beach never had a chance. He was playing with a sprinkler nozzle last December and he was shot to pieces by two officers who were concealed in bushes nearby after they were called by a neighbor who thought the guy had a gun.

He had a damned sprinkler.

The Long Beach police spokesman admitted the two officers did not identify themselves or demand that he drop the object, and it seems the guy had no idea that the police were even there at all. They opened fire with a shotgun and a semi auto pistol.

a tiny little game scope would have made the difference….probably too sissified for the cops to use

Simply Sarah Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:58:38pm

re: #95 celticdragon

Yep.

I know there are good, dedicated and conscientious officers out there. I also know that the justice system has nothing to really do with justice. It is about getting a result. When you meet an officer, you are dealing with a person who can kill you and whose word counts ten times the weight of yours. I recall a community organizer in Chicago was training residents to deal with the police like they would a dangerous, wild animal. In other words, speak slowly and carefully and make no sudden movements.

Basically, do not talk to the police unless you called them to begin with. They are not there to be your friend, and they will fuck you up if you give them any excuse. Say nothing, do nothing.

Sad, but true. In a better world, attempting to be helpful to a law enforcement officer would be something we could do without worrying about it coming back to bite us in the ass.

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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 1:58:50pm

re: #96 celticdragon
“Zerby had been sitting on a friend’s porch Sunday afternoon, waiting for the friend to come home because he was too drunk to drive. A neighbor saw him waving around a gun-like object and called the police.
Police officials said the object was actually a pistol-grip water nozzle, and when it was pointed directly at an officer, the officers opened fire, killing Zerby at the scene.”

I can see how that tragedy unfolded. Yes I was lucky. Yes I had a real gun concealed. No, I was not drunk. No I did not point a gun shaped object at the police. Damn shame neither the neighbor nor the cops saw it for what it was.

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celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:00:13pm

re: #100 Rightwingconspirator

“Zerby had been sitting on a friend’s porch Sunday afternoon, waiting for the friend to come home because he was too drunk to drive. A neighbor saw him waving around a gun-like object and called the police.
Police officials said the object was actually a pistol-grip water nozzle, and when it was pointed directly at an officer, the officers opened fire, killing Zerby at the scene.”

I can see how that tragedy unfolded. Yes I was lucky. Yes I had a real gun concealed. No, I was not drunk. No I did not point a gun shaped object at the police. Damn shame neither the neighbor nor the cops saw it for what it was.

All the police had to do was identify themselves and tell the guy to drop the object. They didn’t even do that.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:01:13pm

re: #93 Rightwingconspirator

re: #96 celticdragon

I hope my door is kicked in by steady professionals. But this being albuquerque, it’s doubtful. I am typically very nonthreatening, but a guy with a sprinkler isn’t exactly threatening either. About the best I’d hope for is coming through it alive and successfully suing for the inevitable damage they’d do to my equipment.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:03:24pm

re: #102 prononymous

re: #96 celticdragon

I hope my door is kicked in by steady professionals. But this being albuquerque, it’s doubtful. I am typically very nonthreatening, but a guy with a sprinkler isn’t exactly threatening either. About the best I’d hope for is coming through it alive and successfully suing for the inevitable damage they’d do to my equipment.

don’t fuck with ABQ cops…the word I got as soon as I moved here
they will kill you in a heartbeat if they even think they are being threatened

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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:04:35pm

re: #101 celticdragon
Were they in uniform or plainclothes? I thought uniformed, but the article did not say. If they were in uniform who the heck did he think it was?

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:06:29pm

re: #104 Rightwingconspirator

Were they in uniform or plainclothes? I thought uniformed, but the article did not say. If they were in uniform who the heck did he think it was?

why not use tranqs?
a blowgun should be standard issue…
or something like that

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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:06:54pm

re: #103 albusteve

don’t fuck with ~~ABQ~~ any armed cops…the word I got as soon as I moved here
they will kill you in a heartbeat if they even think they are being threatened

Fixed that for all of us…

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:07:24pm

re: #100 Rightwingconspirator

I can see how that tragedy unfolded. Yes I was lucky. Yes I had a real gun concealed. No, I was not drunk. No I did not point a gun shaped object at the police. Damn shame neither the neighbor nor the cops saw it for what it was.

Agreed. I cut cops a lot of slack when it comes to situations like that. They are putting their lives in danger for very low pay. Honest mistakes happen and gross negligence is prosecuted.

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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:07:51pm

re: #105 albusteve

Here is why…

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celticdragon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:08:05pm

re: #104 Rightwingconspirator

Were they in uniform or plainclothes? I thought uniformed, but the article did not say. If they were in uniform who the heck did he think it was?

Witnesses at the scene all agreed that the officers never identified themselves. The department spokesmen said they were in a position of concealment and opened fire when he turned towards them It does not appear that the guy even knew they were there, since they were hidden and did not identify themselves.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:08:17pm

re: #106 Rightwingconspirator

True enough. He’s right though, ABQ cops are truly a scourge. One of many reasons I want to leave as soon as it is financially possible.

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Political Atheist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:10:00pm

re: #109 celticdragon

Oh crap. That’s awful.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:18:59pm

re: #110 prononymous

$150 down, $1,999,850 to go.

*sigh*

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wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:19:54pm

re: #112 prononymous

$150 down, $1,999,850 to go.

*sigh*

You need two million dollars to move?

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:20:34pm

re: #113 wrenchwench

You need two million dollars to move?

probably moving to Santa Fe
ahaha!

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:21:00pm

re: #113 wrenchwench

You need two million dollars to move?

To establish the next phase of my business. Buy land, build a facility, etc.

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wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:25:27pm

re: #115 prononymous

To establish the next phase of my business. Buy land, build a facility, etc.

Oh, business. You don’t need money, you need credit. Or money. $150 won’t get you either.

Maybe there could be an intermediate phase?

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:26:46pm

Perfect Timing - Rebel hits a Kadafi tank with rpg7 in Misurata
Liveleak Video
Considering the last tank “attack” video I saw was throwing rorck, shooting small arms and getting run over, I think the rebels are getting better.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:28:32pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

Oh, business. You don’t need money, you need credit. Or money. $150 won’t get you either.

Maybe there could be an intermediate phase?

The stage I am currently in should be sufficient to earn that capital within 2-6 years, if projections are correct, without credit. I am sufficiently capitalized for this first stage.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:28:59pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Perfect Timing - Rebel hits a Kadafi tank with rpg7 in Misurata

[Video]
Considering the last tank “attack” video I saw was throwing rorck, shooting small arms and getting run over, I think the rebels are getting better.

tanks…in an urban battle zone
duh…and it can’t cost $5 a rocket to kill them

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:29:42pm

re: #118 prononymous

The stage I am currently in should be sufficient to earn that capital within 2-6 years, if projections are correct, without credit. I am sufficiently capitalized for this first stage.

I’ll buy one….
do they come in red?

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reine.de.tout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:31:33pm

re: #97 albusteve

I would be blind with grief…it’s just unimaginable, my kids are so precious to me…90% of my entire existence

They’d have to lock me away for the rest of my life.

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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:31:58pm

re: #120 albusteve

I’ll buy one…
do they come in red?

You can have it in any color as you want..As long as you want it in black
/Henry Ford

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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:32:24pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Perfect Timing - Rebel hits a Kadafi tank with rpg7 in Misurata

[Video]
Considering the last tank “attack” video I saw was throwing rorck, shooting small arms and getting run over, I think the rebels are getting better.

Ballsy bastard. That’s a rough position for frags and backblast.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:34:16pm

re: #122 HoosierHoops

You can have it in any color as you want..As long as you want it in black
/Henry Ford

those were the T’s….
the A’s came in dk green and grey as well….very progressive at the time

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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:37:08pm

re: #124 albusteve

those were the T’s…
the A’s came in dk green and grey as well…very progressive at the time

next month is my last car payment
/Speaking of cars

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freetoken Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:41:50pm

In the WND stories are any indication, Joseph Farah is really lovin’ him some Andrew Bratfart right now.

And, Alex Jones is going to interview former NM governor and now President wannabe Gary Johnson, a self described “libertarian” and former guest of The Judge on Fox, etc., etc.,

We’re seeing wingnut convergence… wheeee….

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:42:09pm

re: #125 HoosierHoops

next month is my last car payment
/Speaking of cars

excellent…I have zero debt
time to think about that yellow Beamer eh?

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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:45:02pm

re: #127 albusteve

excellent…I have zero debt
time to think about that yellow Beamer eh?

You know I had been thinking about a gray Audi.. But I’m sick of car payments…Think i’ll pay off some credit card debt instead..

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:45:05pm

re: #126 freetoken

And, Alex Jones is going to interview former NM governor and now President wannabe Gary Johnson, a self described “libertarian” and former guest of The Judge on Fox, etc., etc.,

I liked Johnson back when he was gov. But I haven’t really followed him since. Appearing on Alex Jones? Oh, Gary. *shakes head*

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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:47:01pm

re: #127 albusteve

Hey Steve next weekend is a music festival here.. 200 bands!

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:49:10pm

re: #126 freetoken

In the WND stories are any indication, Joseph Farah is really lovin’ him some Andrew Bratfart right now.

And, Alex Jones is going to interview former NM governor and now President wannabe Gary Johnson, a self described “libertarian” and former guest of The Judge on Fox, etc., etc.,

We’re seeing wingnut convergence… wheee…

I’ve noticed most of the Republicans have been avoiding Alex Jones lately. Ron Paul has been on once or twice in recent months but he used to on on once a week.

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Stanghazi Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:49:20pm

re: #128 HoosierHoops

You know I had been thinking about a gray Audi.. But I’m sick of car payments…Think i’ll pay off some credit card debt instead..

I’ve been without a car payment for the last 4 years. I’m running that thing into the ground before I get another one!

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:52:47pm

re: #128 HoosierHoops

You know I had been thinking about a gray Audi.. But I’m sick of car payments…Think i’ll pay off some credit card debt instead..

I’m saving for this….
69 Z28 ZL1….called a COPO, a factory racer….60 some of these were made in 69 and there are about 33 left…they go for up to and over $500k easily…no bells or whistles…an aluminum 427 block and close to 500hp….extremely rare but I have seen a couple at shows…not much to look at buy YOWZA! what a beast….here she is, judge for yourself
Image: gm-388.jpg

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wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:53:07pm

re: #129 prononymous

I liked Johnson back when he was gov. But I haven’t really followed him since. Appearing on Alex Jones? Oh, Gary. *shakes head*

It gets worse.

Gary Johnson is as nutty as Luap Nor. He seems a bit more liberal, but he’s another anti-Fed loon, and doesn’t care what kind of racists and other bigots and nuts he shares a podium with.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:54:35pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

It gets worse.

Gary Johnson is as nutty as Luap Nor. He seems a bit more liberal, but he’s another anti-Fed loon, and doesn’t care what kind of racists and other bigots and nuts he shares a podium with.

and he’s filthy fucking rich

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:55:03pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

Yep, he seems like a real douchebag now. Or maybe I just wasn’t paying enough attention back then.

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Stanghazi Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:55:07pm

Excellent op/ed by Charles Blow about Trump etc.

nytimes.com

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William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:55:28pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Perfect Timing - Rebel hits a Kadafi tank with rpg7 in Misurata

[Video]
Considering the last tank “attack” video I saw was throwing rorck, shooting small arms and getting run over, I think the rebels are getting better.

I was a tanker on active duty. That was suicide.

No infantry support, going too fast to overwatch watch, commander buttoned up and in an urban environment. If that’s the quality of Mo’s remaining troops, the rebels are winning.

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wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:55:32pm

re: #135 albusteve

and he’s filthy fucking rich

That by itself is not a problem.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:55:45pm

re: #130 HoosierHoops

Hey Steve next weekend is a music festival here.. 200 bands!

my festival days are over til I get another leg….otherwise I’d be sacked on your couch bro….
what’s for breakfast?

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:58:39pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

That by itself is not a problem.

it’s easy to shoot off your mouth when you have huge money….he’s Trumps role model…I’ve taken on the feds the hard way, with few resources….maybe I should run….he’s a spoiled panty waist, where I’m a beat to shit veteran of taking on the IRS

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Varek Raith Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:58:46pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Perfect Timing - Rebel hits a Kadafi tank with rpg7 in Misurata

[Video]
Considering the last tank “attack” video I saw was throwing rorck, shooting small arms and getting run over, I think the rebels are getting better.

Nice shot. Looks like he hit the treads at the back. That tank ain’t going nowhere for a while.

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Decatur Deb Sat, Apr 23, 2011 2:59:44pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

I’ve been without a car payment for the last 4 years. I’m running that thing into the ground before I get another one!

A ‘73 Land Rover never gets run into the ground—mine will outlive me, though it will morph to LPG, biodeisel or electric drive someday.

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wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:00:36pm

re: #136 prononymous

Yep, he seems like a real douchebag now. Or maybe I just wasn’t paying enough attention back then.

Hard to say whether he changed or his real self shows more now. Nobody needs to talk about the Fed to run for governor.

Libertarian “principles” are becoming better known in general.

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HoosierHoops Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:02:05pm

re: #140 albusteve

my festival days are over til I get another leg…otherwise I’d be sacked on your couch bro…
what’s for breakfast?

It’s on College Corner Steve…You can be Lt. Dan and I’ll be Forrest Gump..We’ll clean up.. LOL

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:07:25pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

I was well aware of libertarianism even back then. I don’t even remember why I liked him. Maybe I was blinded by his stance on legalization or something.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:08:42pm

re: #145 HoosierHoops

It’s on College Corner Steve…You can be Lt. Dan and I’ll be Forrest Gump..We’ll clean up.. LOL

do we get to drink with Billy Gibbons?

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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:15:16pm

re: #147 albusteve

do we get to drink with Billy Gibbons?

What the fuck are you talking about. You can’t even get your butt 400 miles to take advantage of the open invitation you’ve had for 2 years now… maybe I’ll give your guest room to HH.

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:18:08pm

re: #138 wlewisiii

I was a tanker on active duty. That was suicide.

No infantry support, going too fast to overwatch watch, commander buttoned up and in an urban environment. If that’s the quality of Mo’s remaining troops, the rebels are winning.

Thanks for the informed opinion. I think it’s a relatively new phenomenon that the rebels can hit anything even at close range. I watched a video a few weeks ago of a rebel shooting an rpg at a tank in the open an he missed at about 40 yards. I think a little bit of coaching and supervision is helping the rebels a lot.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:18:29pm

re: #148 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck are you talking about. You can’t even get your butt 400 miles to take advantage of the open invitation you’ve had for 2 years now… maybe I’ll give your guest room to HH.

this summer…
hopefully, I’ve not shelved the plan

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:23:56pm

Shhh!

Youtube Video

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allegro Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:29:17pm

Oh good grief… gas anyone posted this yet? It would be pretty funny if it wasn’t so gawd awful…

Youtube Video

Here’s a sample of this Teahadist decrying the accusations of tea party racism with… racism:

“Barack Hussein Obama. Mmm mmm hmm. And Ben Jealous of the NAACP. John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, and all the other criminals in the Congressional Black Caucus. And Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all the nigra race pimps out there. On behalf of the Tea Party we are sick and tired of being called racist when our mission is to educate legal American voters on the most conservative candidates to consider voting for. That’s it. We are good Americans, we are moral Americans. We are religious and non. We are taxpayers, we are civil to our neighbors, and we are law-abiding citizens. We love this country and we are willing to fight for what’s right. Not political correctness, not for the Republicans, not for the Democrats, and especially not for the liberals. The Tea Party is tired of Blacks, nigras, Muslims, and Hispanics, especially the illegals, calling us racist for trying to save the America that we love.”

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:30:36pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Perfect Timing - Rebel hits a Kadafi tank with rpg7 in Misurata

[Video]
Considering the last tank “attack” video I saw was throwing rorck, shooting small arms and getting run over, I think the rebels are getting better.

Looks like a T-72. The turret is too small relative to the hull for a T-55.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:32:00pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

Looks like a T-72. The turret is too small relative to the hull for a T-55.

and a low rider….
anyway, scratch one tank

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Stanghazi Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:32:14pm

re: #152 allegro

Oh good grief… gas anyone posted this yet? It would be pretty funny if it wasn’t so gawd awful…

[Video]Here’s a sample of this Teahadist decrying the accusations of tea party racism with… racism:

My main question for this guy, how the HELL does he know who Ben Jealous is? I’m assuming Rush or Beck must talk about him a lot.

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:33:45pm

re: #152 allegro

Oh good grief… gas anyone posted this yet? It would be pretty funny if it wasn’t so gawd awful…

[Video]Here’s a sample of this Teahadist decrying the accusations of tea party racism with… racism:

He just outright calls the Congressional Black Caucus the n-word. I’m no fan of the CBC but calling them the n-word is bigoted and ugly. This guy is scum.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:34:49pm

re: #152 allegro

calling us racist for trying to save the America that we love.”

IE, the fictional America that has only ever existed in their heads.

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Killgore Trout Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:35:17pm

re: #153 Dark_Falcon

Looks like a T-72. The turret is too small relative to the hull for a T-55.

It’s a T-0 now.

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wrenchwench Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:35:21pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea

My main question for this guy, how the HELL does he know who Ben Jealous is? I’m assuming Rush or Beck must talk about him a lot.

Breitbart. He was out for revenge against Jealous when he did the Sherrod smear. “It’s really the NAACP that are the racists, not the tea party”.

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allegro Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:35:33pm

re: #152 allegro

gas anyone posted this yet?

LOL Freudian typo? That should be “has”

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darthstar Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:36:05pm

Well, this comes as no surprise, but it does give me a little satisfaction all the same.

Palin’s Fox fueled fifteen minutes of fame are almost up.

Sarah Palin’s Fox News airtime decline can be traced back to one incident, blood libel. According to New York Magazine, Roger Ailes told Sarah Palin not to post the blood libel video, but Palin went rogue and bit the hand that feeds her. After this she was a lot less visible on Fox, and now a few months later, she has been replaced by Donald Trump.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:39:35pm

re: #161 darthstar

This is why I almost don’t want that book about her published. It will just give her more attention. Don’t feed the trolls.

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:41:15pm

re: #161 darthstar

Well, this comes as no surprise, but it does give me a little satisfaction all the same.

Palin’s Fox fueled fifteen minutes of fame are almost up.

Fox is such a slut

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Dark_Falcon Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:43:21pm

re: #161 darthstar

Well, this comes as no surprise, but it does give me a little satisfaction all the same.

Palin’s Fox fueled fifteen minutes of fame are almost up.

That vid offended a lot of people, and supporters of Israel especially. And many FNC viewers are supporters of Israel. So what Palin did was threaten Fox’s viewer base if they didn’t distance themselves from her.

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bratwurst Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:44:12pm

re: #161 darthstar

Well, this comes as no surprise, but it does give me a little satisfaction all the same.

Palin’s Fox fueled fifteen minutes of fame are almost up.

Gee, who could have guessed that comparing criticism of her to the murder of an untold number of innocent people would blow up in her face?

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darthstar Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:44:16pm

re: #162 prononymous

This is why I almost don’t want that book about her published. It will just give her more attention. Don’t feed the trolls.

Who’s writing a book about her? I suppose the question should be, Who’s not writing a book about her? Publishers are probably rushing to production while people still care enough to spend the twenty bucks or so on a book about the self-absorbed one.

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:51:40pm

re: #166 darthstar

Who’s writing a book about her? I suppose the question should be, Who’s not writing a book about her? Publishers are probably rushing to production while people still care enough to spend the twenty bucks or so on a book about the self-absorbed one.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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albusteve Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:55:42pm

re: #167 prononymous

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

one whore meets another, then another….
chilling expose?
barf me

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Stanghazi Sat, Apr 23, 2011 3:58:38pm

re: #167 prononymous

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

I hope it is published, and is the final hammer. Be rid of thee Sarah!

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Walter L. Newton Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:03:08pm

Man it’s getting a bit exciting up here in the mountains this afternoon. One of the country sheriff cars TURNED AROUND IN MY DRIVEWAY and has now parked itself at the intersection 25 feet below my house.

I’m not sure why? There hasn’t been any major drug dealing at that intersection since May 1955. I know we have a herd of 8 deer that’s been grazing on the side of our mountain here… but I think that’s still legal.

I wonder… could someone in the neighborhood have complained about me walking out to the end of my driveway, going to get the mail, in my burgundy Nick and Nora pajamas? I don’t think that’s illegal… but maybe I’m suppose to change my wardrobe occasionally? Maybe I’ll step out in my speedos?

Maybe not?

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:03:29pm

re: #169 Stanley Sea

I hope it is published, and is the final hammer. Be rid of thee Sarah!

If it contains revelations that make her toxic then I’ll be plenty happy. But if it doesn’t then she will just use it as a chance to get more attention.

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abolitionist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 4:07:31pm

re: #170 Walter L. Newton

Try to avoid striped pajamas when fetching your mail. Birthday suite might be better. Or not.

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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Apr 23, 2011 11:10:43pm

re: #20 EmmmieG

I do genealogy. LOTS of oldest babies are precocious and only require seven months to gestate, including Winston Churchill, who despite having been 10 pounds at birth was EARLY and the result of his mother riding in a carriage over rough roads or something. He was EARLY and nobody in the Churchil family will hear otherwise.

In fairness to Nancy, she had nothing to do with Reagan’s divorce. Jane Wyman got bored.

I couldn’t stand Nancy Reagan, but she never got bored. Her passion for Ronald was obvious, and it lasted a lifetime.

They were both, to my mind, rather shallow, self-absorbed, not terribly bright people, but they loved one another.

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Stephen T. Sun, Apr 24, 2011 6:40:47pm

re: #63 Killgore Trout

For the cooks on a budget: Ramen Hacks: 30+ Easy Ways to Upgrade Your Instant Noodles
I suggest throwing away the flavor packets altogether. It’s just msg and salt. A little seasoning, a little very and a condiment or two is all you need.

This kind of defeats the purpose of buying and eating ramen. One package=one meal for less than a dollar. Some of these ideas raise the price of the bowl of food to well over $2 or $3 dollars.

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