Just in time for the weekly news cycle, a new batch of classified documents from Guantanamo Bay has been released by Wikileaks, with details on the whereabouts of al-Qaeda leaders on 9/11.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:06:53pm |
I am not sure why this is news other then that we are not taking care of business.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:14:51pm |
Thanks Charles. I’ll read the Post, but I’ll stay away from Wikileaks itself.
May Bradley Manning and Julian Assange spend a very long time in prison.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:20:28pm |
“Within a day, much of the al-Qaeda leadership was on the way back to Afghanistan, planning for a long war.”
well I guess that should explain things to those that question our presence in Afghanistan…
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Virginia Plain Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:20:49pm |
So where are the bank documents Wikileaks promised a while back? That’s what I care about the most.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:21:56pm |
re: #4 Virginia Plain
So where are the bank documents Wikileaks promised a while back? That’s what I care about the most.
hey the guy wants to live OK?
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:21:56pm |
re: #2 Dark_Falcon
Thanks Charles. I’ll read the Post, but I’ll stay away from Wikileaks itself.
May Bradley Manning and Julian Assange spend a very long time in prison.
their lives until they die…soften your heart bro…prison doesn’t need to kill them and if you have so much malice then kill them now, eh?…they will pay dearly without piling on
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:24:08pm |
re: #3 brookly red
“Within a day, much of the al-Qaeda leadership was on the way back to Afghanistan, planning for a long war.”
well I guess that should explain things to those that question our presence in Afghanistan…
And besides, invading Pakistan would have been very inconvenient.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:25:53pm |
re: #6 albusteve
their lives until they die…soften your heart bro…prison doesn’t need to kill them and if you have so much malice then kill them now, eh?…they will pay dearly without piling on
No malice, Steve. I want them to pay for their crimes, no more, no less.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:26:35pm |
re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist
And besides, invading Pakistan would have been very inconvenient.
well Obama did say he would take it to Pakistan and as much as I am not a fan he did keep his word and the drones are flying as we speak
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:27:35pm |
re: #3 brookly red
“Within a day, much of the al-Qaeda leadership was on the way back to Afghanistan, planning for a long war.”
well I guess that should explain things to those that question our presence in Afghanistan…
They knew where they had to be to turn it into a long war, and that place wasn’t Pakistan. They wanted to draw us into a prolonged conflict in Afghanistan, wasting our money and lives. The plan was never to destroy America 3000 people at a time every few decades.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:27:41pm |
re: #9 brookly red
well Obama did say he would take it to Pakistan and as much as I am not a fan he did keep his word and the drones are flying as we speak
the whole region is a bust…time to pack it in
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samgak Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:27:58pm |
The media sure got bored of Wikileaks pretty quickly after the previous batch of releases, even though they were supposed to be of world-historical significance, ruin US diplomatic efforts for years etc etc. It seems like it all blew over in a matter of weeks.
Assange should release the bank documents. There’s legitimate secrets, and then there’s evidence of criminal wrongdoing. It’s absurd to hold him responsible for the consequences if the BoA documents are a case of the latter. If criminal wrongdoing by a corporation leads to layoffs for their employees and economic damage to the wider community, that is clearly the fault of the criminals, not those who expose their crimes.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:28:47pm |
re: #8 Dark_Falcon
No malice, Steve. I want them to pay for their crimes, no more, no less.
Hi Dark, remind me please what crime was Assange found guilty of?
In a way I spose that goes for Manning too?
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:28:57pm |
re: #10 prononymous
They knew where they had to be to turn it into a long war, and that place wasn’t Pakistan. They wanted to draw us into a prolonged conflict in Afghanistan, wasting our money and lives. The plan was never to destroy America 3000 people at a time every few decades.
I tend to agree
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:29:35pm |
re: #2 Dark_Falcon
Thanks Charles. I’ll read the Post, but I’ll stay away from Wikileaks itself.
May Bradley Manning and Julian Assange spend a very long time in prison.
How is the Julian Assange rape trial going? I haven’t heard any news about it for a while…
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:29:46pm |
re: #10 prononymous
They knew where they had to be to turn it into a long war, and that place wasn’t Pakistan. They wanted to draw us into a prolonged conflict in Afghanistan, wasting our money and lives. The plan was never to destroy America 3000 people at a time every few decades.
Indeed, they think in hundreds if not thousands of years
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:30:19pm |
re: #16 brookly red
Indeed, they think in hundreds if not thousands of years
Thousands of years backwards…
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:31:06pm |
re: #15 jamesfirecat
How is the Julian Assange rape trial going? I haven’t heard any news about it for a while…
witnesses are being paid off as we speak
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:33:49pm |
re: #17 prononymous
Thousands of years backwards…
yes but they see this as what it is a clash of civilizations, we look at borders, laws, and what have you. at some point we will lower our standards so to speak and it will not be pretty.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:34:06pm |
re: #13 ozbloke
Hi Dark, remind me please what crime was Assange found guilty of?
In a way I spose that goes for Manning too?
I think they will be found guilty when (Manning) or if (Assange) they are brought to trial. In Manning’s case, I don’t see how he avoids prison. What he did clearly violates the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
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samgak Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:34:50pm |
If you have evidence of fraud, and you don’t take it to the police or inform the victims, doesn’t that make you an accessory after the fact? If anything, Assange should be tried for NOT releasing the BoA documents.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:37:19pm |
re: #19 brookly red
yes but they see this as what it is a clash of civilizations, we look at borders, laws, and what have you. at some point we will lower our standards so to speak and it will not be pretty.
Right. Because they want a clash of cultures and they know our buttons.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:37:40pm |
re: #21 samgak
If you have evidence of fraud, and you don’t take it to the police or inform the victims, doesn’t that make you an accessory after the fact? If anything, Assange should be tried for NOT releasing the BoA documents.
well not really, I once thought so too, but he has the right to cover his butt and he was not a willing party so not an accessory…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:40:21pm |
re: #21 samgak
If you have evidence of fraud, and you don’t take it to the police or inform the victims, doesn’t that make you an accessory after the fact? If anything, Assange should be tried for NOT releasing the BoA documents.
No, not unless if you weren’t part of it and didn’t try to cover it up. There is no universal obligation to inform law enforcement. Certain professions have such an obligation, but Assange is not in any of them.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:40:25pm |
re: #20 Dark_Falcon
I think they will be found guilty when (Manning) or if (Assange) they are brought to trial. In Manning’s case, I don’t see how he avoids prison. What he did clearly violates the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
I think the government will have to come up with some charges before I decide whether I think they will stick.
If the Uniform Code of Military Justice has been clearly violated, why has it taken so long to charge him?
I do hope that the government after having already taken responsibility for the lax security that allowed this to happen will see to it that it can’t happen again.
After all Manning is just one guy, it will be someone else next time.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:40:40pm |
re: #24 Dark_Falcon
No, not unless if you weren’t part of it and didn’t try to cover it up. There is no universal obligation to inform law enforcement. Certain professions have such an obligation, but Assange is not in any of them.
Teachers—child abuse.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:41:50pm |
re: #22 prononymous
Right. Because they want a clash of cultures and they know our buttons.
hey, across the world from flying airplanes into buildings to decapitating schoolgirls on the way to class they push buttons, one day they will create the perfect storm and I for one will not urge restraint.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:44:07pm |
re: #21 samgak
If you have evidence of fraud, and you don’t take it to the police or inform the victims, doesn’t that make you an accessory after the fact? If anything, Assange should be tried for NOT releasing the BoA documents.
Moreover, many of the BoA documents Assange says he has may reference personal information of BoA customers. As such, if Assange released them without redacting any information that could be used to identify said customers, he could be possibly tried criminally, and he would definitely be sued civilly. So Assange might find his servers seized in a civil judgement if he releases BoA docs.
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Political Atheist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:44:10pm |
Hey Kilgore, just one more set from our local fauna out hiking today… I think the green plant all wet is sumac, not sure.
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:45:47pm |
re: #29 Rightwingconspirator
Hey Kilgore, just one more set from our local fauna out hiking today… I think the green plant all wet is sumac, not sure.
Its a wonderful spice.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:46:06pm |
re: #27 brookly red
They know that pushed hard enough we are capable of nearly anything, including horrors. How do you think the world would react to an America with no restraint? We are the ones with the most to lose and they know it.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:49:03pm |
re: #31 prononymous
They know that pushed hard enough we are capable of nearly anything, including horrors. How do you think the world would react to an America with no restraint? We are the ones with the most to lose and they know it.
I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of mid easterners…did you predict the fall of Tunisia?
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:50:59pm |
re: #31 prononymous
They know that pushed hard enough we are capable of nearly anything, including horrors. How do you think the world would react to an America with no restraint? We are the ones with the most to lose and they know it.
yes and also the ones with the most to defend, besides we are not alone they are pushing buttons all over the world, China, Russia, India… (we got a big percentage of people here) one day they will kill a child too far and the whole thing will come nasty.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:54:15pm |
re: #32 albusteve
I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of mid easterners…did you predict the fall of Tunisia?
Middle easterners are people, just like the rest of us.
I predicted that we wouldn’t be out of Iraq in a few weeks, or out of Afghanistan in a few years. How am I doing so far?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:55:24pm |
And the Blackhawks win in OT! They take down the Vancouver Canucks 4-3 to even up the series and force Game 7. Tuesday’s game will be played for all the marbles in Vancouver, between these two bitter NHL rivals.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:55:52pm |
re: #33 brookly red
yes and also the ones with the most to defend, besides we are not alone they are pushing buttons all over the world, China, Russia, India… (we got a big percentage of people here) one day they will kill a child too far and the whole thing will come nasty.
I agree that it will turn ugly. Just not ugly in our favor. And that’s their goal.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:56:04pm |
re: #34 prononymous
Middle easterners are people, just like the rest of us.
I predicted that we wouldn’t be out of Iraq in a few weeks, or out of Afghanistan in a few years. How am I doing so far?
seeing things clearly?
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:56:57pm |
Hey, we can make a fun game of this!
“I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of Asians.”
Come on, join in!
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:57:01pm |
Though my glasses have smudges, I can still see the stars.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:57:17pm |
re: #29 Rightwingconspirator
Hey Kilgore, just one more set from our local fauna out hiking today… I think the green plant all wet is sumac, not sure.
Nice.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:57:26pm |
re: #38 JasonA
Hey, we can make a fun game of this!
“I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of Asians.”
Come on, join in!
Screw that.
I know all and see all.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:58:44pm |
re: #36 prononymous
I agree that it will turn ugly. Just not ugly in our favor. And that’s their goal.
once upon a time there was the original axis of evil, they thought they were badd motherfuckers too.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:59:13pm |
re: #41 Varek Raith
Screw that.
I know all and see all.
No, Varek, you cannot Force Choke Jason. Let him go.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:00:11pm |
re: #38 JasonA
Hey, we can make a fun game of this!
“I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of Asians.”
Come on, join in!
I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of women.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:00:29pm |
re: #44 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of women.
Damn. You won.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:00:59pm |
re: #21 samgak
If you have evidence of fraud, and you don’t take it to the police or inform the victims, doesn’t that make you an accessory after the fact? If anything, Assange should be tried for NOT releasing the BoA documents.
Derp of the day!
/Congratulations
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:01:17pm |
re: #38 JasonA
Hey, we can make a fun game of this!
“I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of Asians.”
Come on, join in!
hey…we’re talking cataclysmic slapdown here
the Big One
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:02:23pm |
re: #47 albusteve
hey…we’re talking cataclysmic slapdown here
the Big One
I am all in on Ohio boats!
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:03:52pm |
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:04:22pm |
I gotta run. But I just want to point out what I feel should be obvious.
They want the downfall of America, they have said as much. Yet waging a war, openly or covertly, on our soil would be difficult and have small effect besides the statistically small number of deaths and the demoralizing effect of terrorism. They are disconnected from their supplies, support, and friends. If they can draw us into a fight on their turf then they can attack us physically, morally, and financially. Unfortunately for us and the now nonexistent British empire, asymmetric warfare works.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:05:03pm |
re: #44 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I, for one, don’t presume to know the minds of women.
you can’t long term, short term? Feed em. it’s all good.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:07:29pm |
re: #50 prononymous
and the British were able to overcome it repeatedly. The key is to keep your public’s mind focused on the evil of the enemy. Make them into scum who must be destroyed.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:08:06pm |
re: #46 Killgore Trout
Derp of the day!
/Congratulations
Of the thread maybe, but if you ask me “Unwashed Masses” provided us with far more derp….how could he not being a Paulian who favors a single payer government run healthcare system?
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:08:53pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
and the British were able to overcome it repeatedly. The key is to keep your public’s mind focused on the evil of the enemy. Make them into scum who must be destroyed.
And thats a good thing?
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:09:19pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
and the British were able to overcome it repeatedly. The key is to keep your public’s mind focused on the evil of the enemy. Make them into scum who must be destroyed.
the British have been invaded and have all but succumb
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:09:32pm |
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Rebels have taken 14-barreled helicopter rocket launchers and welded them to their pick-up trucks. They are powered with car batteries and fired by wiring them to scavenged factory button arrays or doorbells
Ding Dong.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:09:38pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
and the British were able to overcome it repeatedly. The key is to keep your public’s mind focused on the evil of the enemy. Make them into scum who must be destroyed.
Um, the British Empire also totally f***ed up many of those nations and their inhabitants…
I don’t think “America needs to act more like Britain did when it was dicking over half the world” is a good gameplan Dark.
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:10:22pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
and the British were able to overcome it repeatedly. The key is to keep your public’s mind focused on the evil of the enemy. Make them into scum who must be destroyed.
In other words, dehumanize them and reduce them to the level of an animal that could/should be destroyed out of hand.
No Thanks.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:10:35pm |
re: #53 jamesfirecat
Of the thread maybe, but if you ask me “Unwashed Masses” provided us with far more derp…how could he not being a Paulian who favors a single payer government run healthcare system?
/go away were discussing the fat of the free world here…
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:11:20pm |
re: #59 brookly red
/go away were discussing the fat of the free world here…
The free world doubtlessly has been getting fatter these days, I blame it on a lack of exercise.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:12:02pm |
The New York Times writes about discredited autism ‘researcher’ Andrew Wakefield. I have finished it, but this part catchs my eye:
The Crash and Burn of an Autism Guru
After the talk, a line of visitors snaked down the length of the lobby, his followers waiting to have Wakefield sign a book he wrote about his experience and convictions, “Callous Disregard.” “All right, love?” he said, handing the book back to one mother. “Of course,” he said when asked for a photo. A pregnant woman in the lobby told me she was there trying to educate herself. Another woman, with tears in her eyes, blamed herself for not working harder to obtain a separate measles vaccine for her possibly autistic child.
Michelle Guppy, the coordinator of the Houston Autism Disability Network and the organizer of the Tomball event, said she believed her own autistic son benefited greatly from one aspect of Wakefield’s work: his conviction that untreated gastrointestinal problems could be behind some of autism’s symptoms. It was Guppy, it turned out, who thought to hire the armed guards “to make the statement,” she said, “that this is neutral ground, and it’s going to be civil.” Guppy, a mother of two who was elegantly dressed for the occasion, made no pretense of neutrality herself. She narrowed her eyes when she learned that a writer from The New York Times was there to write about Wakefield.
“Be nice to him,” she said, “or we will hurt you.”
Ah, Texas. Where even the liberals are nasty.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:12:44pm |
re: #56 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Ding Dong.
well thats nice till you actually fire them…
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:13:32pm |
re: #61 jamesfirecat
The free world doubtlessly has been getting fatter these days, I blame it on a lack of exercise.
touche!
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:13:51pm |
re: #56 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Ding Dong.
That’s got “Hold mah beer and watch this” written all over it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:13:59pm |
re: #58 Bubblehead II
In other words, dehumanize them and reduce them to the level of an animal that could/should be destroyed out of hand.
No Thanks.
It’s more complicated than that, and its not the approach you take in the field. But you have to keep your morale up and that does require a certain amount of demonization. Waging war requires propaganda.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:14:22pm |
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:15:11pm |
re: #65 brookly red
touche!
After a life time of making posts which have misspellings in them, luck was bound to break my way instead at some point!
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:15:16pm |
re: #58 Bubblehead II
In other words, dehumanize them and reduce them to the level of an animal that could/should be destroyed out of hand.
No Thanks.
well when your enemy says you are decedent form apes & pigs it is not that far a stretch.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:16:33pm |
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:16:41pm |
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
It’s more complicated than that, and its not the approach you take in the field. But you have to keep your morale up and that does require a certain amount of demonization. Waging war requires propaganda.
We tried dehumanizing with the “gooks” it didn’t work.
Having an actual reason to fight for and clear achieveable goals works a lot better.
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:16:58pm |
re: #66 Varek Raith
That’s got “Hold mah beer and watch this” written all over it.
they have a backblast, not like a rifle bullet…you could stand right next to them when they fly off, no problem
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:17:34pm |
re: #68 ProLifeLiberal
I’ve got the mental image of this:
1:Ding Dong
2:Who’s There?
1:Boom!
here is a hint. do not stand behind it. in fact do not stand with in 300 yards of it.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:17:36pm |
re: #74 albusteve
they have a backblast, not like a rifle bullet…you could stand right next to them when they fly off, no problem
Ok.
I’ll be in a different truck though.
;)
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:17:42pm |
re: #74 albusteve
they have a backblast, not like a rifle bullet…you could stand right next to them when they fly off, no problem
We have a volunteer!
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albusteve Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:18:02pm |
re: #73 jamesfirecat
We tried dehumanizing with the “gooks” it didn’t work.
Having an actual reason to fight for and clear achieveable goals works a lot better.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:18:03pm |
re: #56 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Ding Dong.
Those rockets are called S-5’s. They are 57mm rockets. The two rebel Mi-24 Hinds use those as well, though the convoy ambush the gunships pulled off was started with AT-6 ‘Spiral’s, which are anti-tank missiles. The section of the Western Desert where the ambush happened is so flat the missiles can be fired from beyond the range of defending AA guns.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:19:00pm |
re: #56 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Ding Dong.
Well, that’s one way to deal with the blue hairs on the highway.
///
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:20:11pm |
re: #73 jamesfirecat
We tried dehumanizing with the “gooks” it didn’t work.
Having an actual reason to fight for and clear achieveable goals works a lot better.
We’ve got a reason to fight. To keep countries from becoming terrorist haven and offer their populations a chance at a better life. In Iraq, it looks like we’ll meet those goals, but Afghanistan is still a question mark.
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Gus Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:20:33pm |
re: #72 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wait, wait, I didn’t study! You gotta give me more time!
//
OK, you’ve got 10 seconds.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:22:18pm |
well if you look closely most of the tubes are empty…
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:23:45pm |
re: #81 Dark_Falcon
We’ve got a reason to fight. To keep countries from becoming terrorist haven and offer their populations a chance at a better life. In Iraq, it looks like we’ll meet those goals, but Afghanistan is still a question mark.
I’m just saying that you don’t win wars with hate Dark. You win them with brains.
The way we tried “nation building” in both Iraq and Afghanistan was stupid in the extreme.
We’d already seen how to transform dictatorial hell holes into functional democracies in both Germany and Japan, but rather than taking the slow and steady approach (being in complete control of a place for a couple decades) instead we ended up trying to do things fast and easy, and in the process creating something that seems to be the middle eastern version of Banana Republics
We all but totally “lost” those wars, or at least the peace that came after them when we made that decision.
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simoom Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:23:46pm |
Franklin Graham from some sort of religious leader interviews that aired today on ABC’s “This Week”:
[Link: abcnews.go.com…]
AMANPOUR: Does it bother you that people like Donald Trump for instance right now, are making another huge big deal about birth certificates and whether he’s a Muslim or a Christian and where he was born?GRAHAM: Well, the president, I know, has some issues to deal with here. He can solve this whole birth certificate issue pretty quickly. I don’t — I was born in a hospital in Ashville, North Carolina, and I know that my records are there. You can probably even go and find out what room my mother was in when I was born.
I don’t know why he can’t produce that. So, I’m not — I don’t know, but it’s an issue that looks like he could answer pretty quickly.
As it relates to Muslim, there are many people that do wonder where he really stands on that. Now, he has told me that he is a Christian. But the debate comes, what is a Christian?
For him, going to church means he’s a Christian. For me, the definition of a Christian is whether we have given our life to Christ and are following him in faith, and we have trusted him as our Lord and Savior.
That’s the definition of a Christian, it’s not as to what church you’re a member of. A membership doesn’t make you a Christian.
AMANPOUR: Do you believe him when he tells you he’s a Christian?
GRAHAM: Well, when he says that, of course. I can’t — I’m not going to say, “Well, no, you’re not.” God is the only one who knows his heart.
Nice — sowing doubt about the President’s Christian faith for Easter Sunday (and some Birther rhetoric too).
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:24:39pm |
Looks like the Libyan rebels have some western arms after all. Check out this photo. That’s a picture of a FN MAG. Its a Belgian-made 7.62mm General Purpose Machine Gun. That one is made in Belgium, US made ones are used by the US Army as the M240.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:24:46pm |
and another small point, snipers LOVE red barretts
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:26:49pm |
re: #86 Dark_Falcon
May be supplied from Qatar. They are known publicly right now for supplying arms and other assorted goodies of war.
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jaunte Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:29:46pm |
re: #56 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Ding Dong.
Land Shark.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:31:00pm |
re: #88 ProLifeLiberal
May be supplied from Qatar. They are known publicly right now for supplying arms and other assorted goodies of war.
Possibly. I’m going through Al Jazeera’s “Rebel Repair Effort” photoset. It looks like a gold mine of photos about the parts and repair of former Soviet military vehicles. The T-55 in the first shot has clearly seen an upgrade from when Libya first acquired it, though it would still be scrap iron up against an M1 Abrams.
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Leo3 Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:31:25pm |
Bill Clinton caught a lot of flak because he acted on the kind of information that Assange is letting us into. He missed killing Osama bin Laden by forty-five minutes, and this before anyone who didn’t pay careful attention to serious terrorist threats had ever even heard of him, while he was being investigated for a blowjob. “Wagging the dog,” they called it. Not a single republican would be caught dead permitting Clinton to distract them from the more important business of Monica Lewinsky.
Assange may not have revealed this bank stuff, but he reveals truths, and he gets more than his share of hell for it, frankly.
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:32:14pm |
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
It’s more complicated than that, and its not the approach you take in the field. But you have to keep your morale up and that does require a certain amount of demonization. Waging war requires propaganda.
You just lost me there. Care to expound on that statement?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:32:54pm |
re: #85 simoom
Franklin Graham from some sort of religious leader interviews that aired today on ABC’s “This Week”:
[Link: abcnews.go.com…]
Nice — sowing doubt about the President’s Christian faith for Easter Sunday (and some Birther rhetoric too).
Interesting.
On the one hand, Graham says:
For him, going to church means he’s a Christian. For me, the definition of a Christian is whether we have given our life to Christ and are following him in faith, and we have trusted him as our Lord and Savior.
Then a couple of questions later, Graham says:
Well, when he says that, of course. I can’t — I’m not going to say, “Well, no, you’re not.” God is the only one who knows his heart.
So, which is it? Does Graham know for sure that for the President, “going to church means he’s a Christian”? Or does he really think that “God is the only one who knows his heart”? Which one is it?
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:33:22pm |
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
That’s from real recent too. Maybe planning something. The Eastern Front has been stable for 6-7 days now, with little fighting.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:33:28pm |
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
It also looks like the rebels are refitting BTRs. those are wheeled APCs, useful for moving troops quickly. Because they are wheeled, they have greater strategic mobility than tracked vehicles do. They can ease on down the coast road as easily as a car can.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:33:34pm |
re: #94 Gus 802
I can’t think of anything smart, witty, silly, or stupid to say.
Give it time. It’ll come to you.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:34:26pm |
re: #87 brookly red
and another small point, snipers LOVE red barretts
Red barrettes?
Or red berets?
I’m so confused.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:34:48pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:35:16pm |
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:35:19pm |
re: #70 brookly red
well when your enemy says you are decedent form apes & pigs it is not that far a stretch.
In other words, drop to their level. There is a phrase for that isn’t there? Tu quet or something or other… Just because they are doing it doesn’t mean we have to.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:35:46pm |
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
Possibly. I’m going through Al Jazeera’s “Rebel Repair Effort” photoset. It looks like a gold mine of photos about the parts and repair of former Soviet military vehicles. The T-55 in the first shot has clearly seen an upgrade from when Libya first acquired it, though it would still be scrap iron up against an M1 Abrams.
that kind of make me wonder…
OK we got a tank!
- I used to drive a cab?
Excellent, you drive!
arms are really not all that useful if you are not trained to use them…
but apparently these people are trained to use them, so whats up with that?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:35:47pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:36:07pm |
re: #99 reine.de.tout
Doesn’t matter what you call them, the thing makes you a big target.
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SpaceJesus Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:36:42pm |
anyone who even remotely cares about this british wedding thing needs to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror then try as hard as possible to flush themselves down the toilet
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:37:50pm |
re: #103 Bubblehead II
In other words, drop to their level. There is a phrase for that isn’t there? Tu quet or something or other… Just because they are doing it doesn’t mean we have to.
stop being so self righteous, it really does not matter when push comes to shove, now does it?
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:38:52pm |
re: #108 SpaceJesus
anyone who even remotely cares about this british wedding thing needs to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror then try as hard as possible to flush themselves down the toilet
you know SJ I could get to like you after all…
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Killgore Trout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:39:58pm |
Raspberry Beret
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:40:14pm |
re: #99 reine.de.tout
Red barrettes?
Or red berets?
I’m so confused.
Bang! fade to black… still confused?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:40:30pm |
re: #96 ProLifeLiberal
That’s from real recent too. Maybe planning something. The Eastern Front has been stable for 6-7 days now, with little fighting.
Pretty likely. I also see a number of BMP-1’s. Those are tracked Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFVs), used for heavier fighting. Unlike BTRs, they are normally carried to near their objectives on specialized transported trucks. They tend to work as a team with Main Battle Tanks to overrun strong positions.
I also seek other T-55s in some disrepair. It could be they’ve pulled T-55s out of storage and are cannibalizing the worst off ones to get the better off fit to fight. It might give the rebels some real heavy punch.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:41:33pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:42:03pm |
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:42:17pm |
re: #56 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Ding Dong.
Needs moar dakka.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:44:27pm |
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:45:51pm |
re: #115 Dark_Falcon
And considering the fact that the Rebels are now getting supplies from Qatar, the Rebels will continue to gain an advantage.
Lesson: Don’t piss off Qatar.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:48:32pm |
re: #100 ProLifeLiberal
Yep, that’s part of the overhaul. Tires, electronics, paint, it all gets done. And afterward, you’ve got an APC fit to move squad into place for an assault. Bu they also need to get those truck mounted Grad launchers under better control. Grads need to be used en masse, to pound a target at the start of an attack. To win battles, armor, artillery, infantry and air support must all fight as a team.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:51:58pm |
re: #119 reine.de.tout
Permanently.
OK let me split the difference with you, I may not know how to spell a red French hat, but I do know not to put one on my head when people are shooting at me… fair enough?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:53:00pm |
re: #122 brookly red
OK let me split the difference with you, I may not know how to spell a red French hat, but I do know not to put one on my head when people are shooting at me… fair enough?
Sounds OK to me.
Where ya been, by the way?
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BongCrodny Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:53:15pm |
re: #94 Gus 802
I can’t think of anything smart, witty, silly, or stupid to say.
Actually, that did fall under one of those categories.
Meow!
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:53:28pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:53:29pm |
re: #120 ProLifeLiberal
And considering the fact that the Rebels are now getting supplies from Qatar, the Rebels will continue to gain an advantage.
Lesson: Don’t piss off Qatar.
True, that. But its the SAS and other military missions who are the real force multiplier. They are the ones able to teach the rebel leadership the lessons in working together needed to win.
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:53:59pm |
re: #110 brookly red
stop being so self righteous, it really does not matter when push comes to shove, now does it?
As a matter of fact, yes, it does. I don’t know about you, but when I was in the Service, I was taught that those I may have to go up against were crews/individuals just as highly trained as I was. They were MEN, not scum/gooks/commies/animals. Yes, we may have to kill them, but to reduce them to that level in order to justify their death, is not something I will ever be willing to do. Nor will I ever support a Government that does. If you can’t understand that, well, then we will just have to agree to disagree because I will never lower myself to that level.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:55:00pm |
re: #127 Bubblehead II
As a matter of fact, yes, it does. I don’t know about you, but when I was in the Service, I was taught that those I may have to go up against were crews/individuals just as highly trained as I was. They were MEN, not scum/gooks/commies/animals. Yes, we may have to kill them, but to reduce them to that level in order to justify their death, is not something I will ever be willing to do. Nor will I ever support a Government that does. If you can’t understand that, well, then we will just have to agree to disagree because I will never lower myself to that level.
Thank you for your service.
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jamesfirecat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:56:15pm |
re: #110 brookly red
stop being so self righteous, it really does not matter when push comes to shove, now does it?
When push comes to shove is when your convictions and morals matter most.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:56:43pm |
re: #126 Dark_Falcon
True, that. But its the SAS and other military missions who are the real force multiplier. They are the ones able to teach the rebel leadership the lessons in working together needed to win.
That is true. Now exactly who is the rebel leadership & do we really want to do that?
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windsagio Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:56:54pm |
re: #128 brookly red
Thank you for your service.
I like how the fact he served negated your entire argument in an instant >
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:57:36pm |
re: #129 jamesfirecat
When push comes to shove is when your convictions and morals matter most.
Indeed.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:57:47pm |
The hell is this, Reunion of long lost posters?!?!
/
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 24, 2011 8:59:51pm |
re: #134 Varek Raith
The hell is this, Reunion of long lost posters?!?!
/
I do tend to crawl out of the woodwork on occasion.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:00:37pm |
re: #134 Varek Raith
The hell is this, Reunion of long lost posters?!?!
/
They’re zombies, Varek. The apocalypse has come! Abandon blog! Women and nerds first!
///
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:01:04pm |
re: #132 windsagio
I like how the fact he served negated your entire argument in an instant >
Well it did, and he was right. Why should it be any other way?
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:01:06pm |
re: #136 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
They’re zombies, Varek. The apocalypse has come! Abandon blog! Women and nerds first!
///
I get a whole lifeboat to myself.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:04:05pm |
re: #131 brookly red
That is true. Now exactly who is the rebel leadership & do we really want to do that?
I think we do. I also found the photos in the Ajdabiya: Hair cuts and rocket launchers reassuring. Islamists frown strongly on buzzcuts. Rather, those are a sign of Western militaries.
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:04:16pm |
On a lighter note. I just got done adding up the number a minutes of music I have stored on my HD. It came out to 7646 minutes or (if my math is correct) 5.3 days of music without hearing the same same song twice.
/// I need more music.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:06:04pm |
re: #138 Varek Raith
I get a whole lifeboat to myself.
I thought you used a TIE Defender for such purposes. Nothing says “Out of my way!” like 4 laser cannons, two ion cannons, and two launchers capable of firing either concussion missiles or proton torpedoes.
/Stay on Target!
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:08:05pm |
re: #139 Dark_Falcon
I think we do. I also found the photos in the Ajdabiya: Hair cuts and rocket launchers reassuring. Islamists frown strongly on buzzcuts. Rather, those are a sign of Western militaries.
maybe, Mohamed Atta was quite clean cut in all the pictures of his numerous drivers licenses… I need some more convincing
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:10:43pm |
re: #142 brookly red
maybe, Mohamed Atta was quite clean cut in all the pictures of his numerous drivers licenses… I need some more convincing
I know. But that’s also part of the reason for the US sending in CIA agents. They can find out who our friends are and undermine those who are hostile.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:11:54pm |
re: #143 Dark_Falcon
I know. But that’s also part of the reason for the US sending in CIA agents. They can find out who our friends are and undermine those who are hostile.
well just call me cynical
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windsagio Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:13:12pm |
re: #137 brookly red
Military service doesn’t make you automatically right, and it also doesn’t make you not a douche >>
(not that he was a wrong douche anyways, but still :D)
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:16:53pm |
Holy crap. Is everyone I ran away from coming back now?!?
///
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:16:59pm |
re: #145 windsagio
Military service doesn’t make you automatically right, and it also doesn’t make you not a douche >>
(not that he was a wrong douche anyways, but still :D)
Hey, here is a concept for you to try to wrap your head around… I mis-spoke and admitted it, and backed down.
So exactly what is your point ?
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:18:14pm |
re: #146 JasonA
Holy crap. Is everyone I ran away from coming back now?!?
///
you know, I was just sitting around thinking how much I wanted to mess with Jason…
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:18:18pm |
re: #141 Dark_Falcon
I thought you used a TIE Defender for such purposes. Nothing says “Out of my way!” like 4 laser cannons, two ion cannons, and two launchers capable of firing either concussion missiles or proton torpedoes.
/Stay on Target!
and the fact Rebel pilots have no sense of target priority.
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windsagio Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:19:58pm |
re: #147 brookly red
Hey, here is a concept for you to try to wrap your head around… I mis-spoke and admitted it, and backed down.
So exactly what is your point ?
Its good to see you again?
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:20:20pm |
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windsagio Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:20:57pm |
re: #151 Varek Raith
How ya been?
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 broke my heart, still in the process of healing.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:21:16pm |
re: #149 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
and the fact Rebel pilots have no sense of target priority.
Only in the movies. In Timothy Zahn’s books Rouge Squadron is smart enough to know to go after the more Dangerous TIE Interceptors first, then deal with the TIE/In fighters.
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:24:11pm |
re: #153 Dark_Falcon
Only in the movies. In Timothy Zahn’s books Rouge Squadron is smart enough to know to go after the more Dangerous TIE Interceptors first, then deal with the TIE/In fighters.
Is that before or after they uncover another long lost Imperial/Sith superweapon?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:26:36pm |
re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Is that before or after they uncover another long lost Imperial/Sith superweapon?
Both. Though the Katana Fleet was supposed to be a Old Republic lost weapon, before Revenge of the Sith retconned it.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:26:53pm |
re: #152 windsagio
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 broke my heart, still in the process of healing.
I know what that’s like.
Dragon Age 2.
*Shudders*
Ah, well.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:27:32pm |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
Both. Though the Katana Fleet was supposed to be a Old Republic lost weapon, before Revenge of the Sith retconned it.
Thank you George Lucas.
9_9
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:28:01pm |
re: #153 Dark_Falcon
Only in the movies. In Timothy Zahn’s books Rouge Squadron is smart enough to know to go after the more Dangerous TIE Interceptors first, then deal with the TIE/In fighters.
I’m not impressed that their best pilots know enough to do that.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:28:32pm |
re: #156 Varek Raith
I know what that’s like.
Dragon Age 2.
*Shudders*
Ah, well.
I played the demo on my 360 last night. Felt really weird.
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Gus Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:29:13pm |
Well. Lately, this Wikileaks stuff has brought out my inner Honey Badger. These documents show one thing in that we invaded one of the wrong countries and should have invaded Pakistan. But as SFZ mentioned that would have been inconvenient. Iraq is history now for the most part and it’s water under the bridge, 20/20 vision and all that. So, I think I’ll have another shot and try really hard not to give a shit. All of it is out of my hands anyway — doesn’t even matter who you vote for. SNAFU.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:29:35pm |
re: #159 JasonA
I played the demo on my 360 last night. Felt really weird.
Played the whole demo on PC.
My conclusion?
WTF is this shit?!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:30:14pm |
re: #160 Gus 802
Well. Lately, this Wikileaks stuff has brought out my inner Honey Badger. These documents show one thing in that we invaded one of the wrong countries and should have invaded Pakistan. But as SFZ mentioned that would have been inconvenient. Iraq is history now for the most part and it’s water under the bridge, 20/20 vision and all that. So, I think I’ll have another shot and try really hard not to give a shit. All of it is out of my hands anyway — doesn’t even matter who you vote for. SNAFU.
New avatar?
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windsagio Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:30:21pm |
re: #161 Varek Raith
don’t say that, you’ll permanently lose all access to your EA account >
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:30:26pm |
re: #161 Varek Raith
Played the whole demo on PC.
My conclusion?
WTF is this shit?!
Second fiddle to Mass Effect 2.
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:30:33pm |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
Both. Though the Katana Fleet was supposed to be a Old Republic lost weapon, before Revenge of the Sith retconned it.
Actually those books avoided the superweapon phenomenon prevalent in most of the other books. The Empire had lost much of its capital ship production capability, while the Republic’s resources were severely stretched. The ability to field a significant number of capital ships did represent a serious military threat.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:30:34pm |
re: #161 Varek Raith
Played the whole demo on PC.
My conclusion?
WTF is this shit?!
Does it feel more like Dynasty Warriors there too?
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:30:39pm |
Sweet, I can watch Meet the Press online.
Huzzah, I haz something to do!
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Gus Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:31:44pm |
re: #167 Varek Raith
Sweet, I can watch Meet the Press online.
Huzzah, I haz something to do!
Awesome. I heard that President McCain was on there again.
//
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:32:05pm |
re: #166 JasonA
Does it feel more like Dynasty Warriors there too?
Yep. Everything just felt wrong.
At least ME was a hybrid, so the changes to ME2 didn’t bother me so much.
Dragon Age 2 is way different than the first.
Sigh.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:32:53pm |
re: #170 Varek Raith
Yep. Everything just felt wrong.
At least ME was a hybrid, so the changes to ME2 didn’t bother me so much.
Dragon Age 2 is way different than the first.
Sigh.
Damn. I really liked that Baldur’s Gate feeling from the original.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:33:06pm |
re: #165 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Actually those books avoided the superweapon phenomenon prevalent in most of the other books. The Empire had lost much of its capital ship production capability, while the Republic’s resources were severely stretched. The ability to field a significant number of capital ships did represent a serious military threat.
I know. That’s what made the “Heir to the Empire” series so good. The Imperial forces are military professionals, not just stomp-dick foils. The stromtroopers in the first book fight smart when ambushed, moving to cover and them using their firepower to grind the enemy down. They don’t win, but they don’t look like fools either.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:34:04pm |
re: #172 Dark_Falcon
I know. That’s what made the “Heir to the Empire” series so good. The Imperial forces are military professionals, not just stomp-dick foils. The stromtroopers in the first book fight smart when ambushed, moving to cover and them using their firepower to grind the enemy down. They don’t win, but they don’t look like fools either.
Watch Clone Wars if you want to see what Stormtroopers should have been like in action.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:34:40pm |
re: #169 Gus 802
Awesome. I heard that President McCain was on there again.
//
He went to Benghazi, and then came back to urge the US to increase its involvement in ousting Gaddafi. Say what you want about McCain, he is able to lead and he does lack guts.
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:35:29pm |
re: #172 Dark_Falcon
I know. That’s what made the “Heir to the Empire” series so good. The Imperial forces are military professionals, not just stomp-dick foils. The stromtroopers in the first book fight smart when ambushed, moving to cover and them using their firepower to grind the enemy down. They don’t win, but they don’t look like fools either.
Don’t forget the tractor beam operator who almost catches Luke, is questioned by Thrawn and actually promoted to a section head.
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Gus Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:35:44pm |
re: #174 Dark_Falcon
He went to Benghazi, and then came back to urge the US to increase its involvement in ousting Gaddafi. Say what you want about McCain, he is able to lead and he does lack guts.
Oh right. Forgot about that. But the joke was on MTP not McCain. Might say something about you know who too if you know what I mean. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:36:00pm |
re: #174 Dark_Falcon
He went to Benghazi, and then came back to urge the US to increase its involvement in ousting Gaddafi. Say what you want about McCain, he is able to lead and he does lack guts.
Going out on a limb to say that that’s not what you meant to say…
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:36:47pm |
re: #151 Varek Raith
How ya been?
pardon me I went to the corner store…
the glass is half full, thank the Lord I am healthy
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:40:01pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:40:17pm |
re: #176 Gus 802
Oh right. Forgot about that. But the joke was on MTP not McCain. Might say something about you know who too if you know what I mean. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
MTP?
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:40:40pm |
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:40:57pm |
I see all this Star Wars talk and feel my inner Trekkie stirring. July 1st can’t come soon enough.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:41:22pm |
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Gus Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:41:49pm |
re: #190 Varek Raith
You left off the period.
Post disqualified!
/
It’s a title! Title’s don’t get periods!
//
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:41:53pm |
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:43:08pm |
re: #190 Varek Raith
You left off the period.
Post disqualified!
/
Objection! the post is pregnant!
deal with that…
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:43:52pm |
re: #187 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I see all this Star Wars talk and feel my inner Trekkie stirring. July 1st can’t come soon enough.
What happens July 1st?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:43:55pm |
re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Don’t forget the tractor beam operator who almost catches Luke, is questioned by Thrawn and actually promoted to a section head.
From “The Last Command”. Yes, that’s an excellent sequence and it cements the difference between Grand Admiral Tharwn and Darth Vader. Vader, for all his power in the force, wasn’t nearly as good a battle leader. Likely, having seen Revenge of the Sith, I’d say it was his bitterness and hatred that reduced his skill. It lead him to lead by intimidation, making only negative examples and never positive ones. Tharwn knew that a good leader makes both.
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:44:04pm |
re: #193 brookly red
Objection! the post is pregnant!
deal with that…
Dammit.
That’s cheating…
Jerk.
XD
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:45:31pm |
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:46:18pm |
re: #197 Gus 802
Guess so. I never watched Sunday morning TV anyway. Typically I was sleeping.
I am looking for backers for this show I want to produce… Stone the Press.
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:46:21pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:47:35pm |
re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Eh, bunch of communist Space Hippies in the Next Generation.
TOS is coming too.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:47:53pm |
re: #194 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
What happens July 1st?
Star Trek episodes will be available for streaming on Netflix.
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Gus Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:47:55pm |
re: #199 brookly red
I am looking for backers for this show I want to produce… Stone the Press.
Me too. But my show is called “Gus goes to Pago Pago”.
//
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:49:23pm |
re: #199 brookly red
I am looking for backers for this show I want to produce… Stone the Press.
Might be fun to watch, bunch of reporters high as kites, asking the White House Press Secretary when lunch will be served…
Oh wait, wrong kind of stone.
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:50:15pm |
re: #199 brookly red
I am looking for backers for this show I want to produce… Stone the Press.
I bet Gaddafi would like to finance a show like that. After all the grief the media has given him (which he richly deserves).
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 9:50:24pm |
re: #203 Gus 802
Me too. But my show is called “Gus goes to Pago Pago”.
//
Fine. But you have to take Donald Trump with you just to make it interesting.
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:02:54pm |
I would like to confess to the high crime of threadicide.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:04:47pm |
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:05:15pm |
re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Eh, bunch of communist Space Hippies in the Next Generation.
Captain!, life support is shutting down!
> What? we have automatic funding? that is impossible!
Were getting hailed… it’s a Repulicon battle cruiser off the port beam…
> Damnit Charge weapons!
Sir, we don’t have any weapons, Emperor Obamic forbid them…
> uhmm errr, send an urgent appeal!
Captain! we are hit! the NPR is offline, ACORN is not responding!
> OK that’s it … threaten to shutdown sequence , in 3… 2… 1…
Tune in next week for the next episode of Hippies in Space! the Leftover generation!
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:06:45pm |
re: #204 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Might be fun to watch, bunch of reporters high as kites, asking the White House Press Secretary when lunch will be served…
Oh wait, wrong kind of stone.
//
no I mean stone in a biblical sense…
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:07:01pm |
See, the thread’s not dead! It’s pinin’ for the fjords!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:07:10pm |
re: #209 brookly red
Captain!, life support is shutting down!
> What? we have automatic funding? that is impossible!
Were getting hailed… it’s a Repulicon battle cruiser off the port beam…
> Damnit Charge weapons!
Sir, we don’t have any weapons, Emperor Obamic forbid them…
> uhmm errr, send an urgent appeal!
Captain! we are hit! the NPR is offline, ACORN is not responding!
> OK that’s it … threaten to shutdown sequence , in 3… 2… 1…Tune in next week for the next episode of Hippies in Space! the Leftover generation!
ROFLMAO! Favorited and updinged.
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:07:33pm |
re: #209 brookly red
Captain!, life support is shutting down!
> What? we have automatic funding? that is impossible!
Were getting hailed… it’s a Repulicon battle cruiser off the port beam…
> Damnit Charge weapons!
Sir, we don’t have any weapons, Emperor Obamic forbid them…
> uhmm errr, send an urgent appeal!
Captain! we are hit! the NPR is offline, ACORN is not responding!
> OK that’s it … threaten to shutdown sequence , in 3… 2… 1…Tune in next week for the next episode of Hippies in Space! the Leftover generation!
The USS Enterprise, mightiest warship in the Federation, routinely assigned to first contact missions and high threat battle zones. And here is the ship’s preschool…WAIT A SEC!
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:09:34pm |
re: #205 Dark_Falcon
I bet Gaddafi would like to finance a show like that. After all the grief the media has given him (which he richly deserves).
yeah but unfortunately his broadcast asset had a run in with a tomahawk missile, so I need a new backer
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:09:43pm |
LOL!
Unwashed Masses has a complete SWEEP of the bottom comments!
Congratulations!
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Bubblehead II Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:10:39pm |
Lizards, time to call it a night.
For those who want to mellow out.
For those who want to Rock Out.
And to my Wife, who refuses to (or so She says) to visit here))
May the Deity of you’re choice smile down upon you.
Good Night.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:10:43pm |
re: #207 JasonA
I would like to confess to the high crime of threadicide.
it’s not dead you putz, we need time to type, sheesh.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:10:45pm |
re: #207 JasonA
I would like to confess to the high crime of threadicide.
50 lashes with a wet noodle!
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:11:35pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:11:59pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:12:32pm |
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Four More Tears Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:14:14pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:14:15pm |
re: #215 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
Unwashed Masses has a complete SWEEP of the bottom comments!
Congratulations!
Well, refusal to wash does make you unpopular. ;)
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:15:09pm |
re: #215 Floral Giraffe
LOL!
Unwashed Masses has a complete SWEEP of the bottom comments!
Congratulations!
I blame you people for gang dinging a Libertarian…
OK he was annoying, but all the tolerance you guys preach…
OK he was annoying.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:20:23pm |
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:20:59pm |
re: #224 brookly red
I blame you people for gang dinging a Libertarian…
OK he was annoying, but all the tolerance you guys preach…
OK he was annoying.
Tolerance does not mean putting up with false statements. His posts were full of them.
;)
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:21:25pm |
re: #224 brookly red
Haven’t touched his dinger….
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:21:49pm |
re: #226 Varek Raith
Tolerance does not mean putting up with false statements. His posts were full of them.
;)
He was a Paulian that could only speak in talking points. I’m surprised he was able to compose complete sentences.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:22:48pm |
re: #227 Floral Giraffe
Haven’t touched his dinger…
No one would expect you to, Floral. We know you’re too much a lady for that.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:23:51pm |
re: #229 Dark_Falcon
No one would expect you to, Floral. We know you’re too much a lady for that.
*smooch*
You say that to all the ladies!
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:25:53pm |
re: #230 Floral Giraffe
*smooch*
You say that to all the ladies!
Well, you can touch m……
…
…
…
Nevermind.
/I’m so going to get hit.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:27:34pm |
re: #231 Varek Raith
Well, you can touch m…
…
…
…
Nevermind.
/I’m so going to get hit.
NOW that is a thread killer…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:27:42pm |
re: #231 Varek Raith
Well, you can touch m…
…
…
…
Nevermind.
/I’m so going to get hit.
You’re right about that:
SMACK!
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:28:06pm |
re: #232 brookly red
NOW that is a thread killer…
Lol.
Sometimes I can’t help but walk into trouble.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:29:30pm |
re: #234 Varek Raith
Lol.
Sometimes I can’t help but walk into trouble.
and just who do you think you are talking to?
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:29:55pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:30:05pm |
re: #231 Varek Raith
Well, you can touch m…
…
…
…
Nevermind.
/I’m so going to get hit.
If you’re lucky, you’ll get spanked!
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:30:51pm |
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:31:14pm |
re: #237 Floral Giraffe
If you’re lucky, you’ll get spanked!
Did I take a wrong turn and end up at Castle Anthrax?
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Kragar Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:31:52pm |
re: #239 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Did I take a wrong turn and end up at Castle Anthrax?
Its much too perilous.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:32:15pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:33:08pm |
I’m sorry, but I’ve got to get to bed. Goodnight, all.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:34:57pm |
re: #242 Dark_Falcon
I’m sorry, but I’ve got to get to bed. Goodnight, all.
wait… if you are sleeping what is that dark thing that keeps swooping by all night?
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:36:13pm |
re: #243 brookly red
wait… if you are sleeping what is that dark thing that keeps swooping by all night?
Easy. It’s a -REDACTED- and a -CLASSIFIED- with 3 counts of -NSFW-.
/
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:36:45pm |
re: #244 Varek Raith
Easy. It’s a -REDACTED- and a -CLASSIFIED- with 3 counts of -NSFW-.
/
Sounds like fun!
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:37:28pm |
re: #244 Varek Raith
Easy. It’s a -REDACTED- and a -CLASSIFIED- with 3 counts of -NSFW-.
/
oh no problemo
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:38:45pm |
re: #245 Floral Giraffe
Sounds like fun!
won’t touch the dinger but 3 counts of -NSFW-. sounds like fun?
OK whatever.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:39:33pm |
re: #85 simoom
Franklin Graham from some sort of religious leader interviews that aired today on ABC’s “This Week”:
[Link: abcnews.go.com…]
Nice — sowing doubt about the President’s Christian faith for Easter Sunday (and some Birther rhetoric too).
What a schmuck.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:40:12pm |
re: #247 brookly red
It’s all about personal taste!
LOL!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:40:36pm |
re: #95 reine.de.tout
Interesting.
On the one hand, Graham says:
Then a couple of questions later, Graham says:
So, which is it? Does Graham know for sure that for the President, “going to church means he’s a Christian”? Or does he really think that “God is the only one who knows his heart”? Which one is it?
Well, obviously, only God knows, but Franklin Graham can make an intelligent guess and share it with the rest of us.
/
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Varek Raith Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:40:55pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:43:14pm |
re: #132 windsagio
I like how the fact he served negated your entire argument in an instant >
Jaysus, it’s old home week around here. Haven’t seen you in an age, plus Brookly’s back.
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samgak Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:45:03pm |
re: #24 Dark_Falcon
No, not unless if you weren’t part of it and didn’t try to cover it up. There is no universal obligation to inform law enforcement. Certain professions have such an obligation, but Assange is not in any of them.
At the very least he has a moral obligation to release the documents, even if he isn’t strictly obliged to by law. Otherwise he’s just covering for fraudsters.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:46:06pm |
re: #252 SanFranciscoZionist
Jaysus, it’s old home week around here. Haven’t seen you in an age, plus Brookly’s back.
I was doing lent and Windy making bail… whats the big deal?
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Usually refered to as anyways Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:46:31pm |
500 Taliban prisoners tunnel out of prison
Nearly 500 Taliban prisoners have escaped from Kandahar prison in southern Afghanistan through a tunnel hundreds of metres long, Afghan officials say.
The Taliban said it was behind the huge jail break and that all of those who escaped were members of the militant Islamist organisation.
“A tunnel hundreds of metres long was dug from the south of the prison into the prison and 476 political prisoners escaped last night,” prison director General Ghulam Dastageer Mayar said.
Acting Kandahar police chief Shair Shah Yousufzai also confirmed the escape, saying: “Last night some political prisoners broke out of the prison and have escaped.”
Taliban spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi said his organisation was responsible for the mass break-out.
“Prisoners dug a 360-metre-long tunnel to the south of the prison,” he said.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:48:16pm |
re: #254 brookly red
I was doing lent and Windy making bail… whats the big deal?
Nothing, nothing…we left a light on for ya.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:48:20pm |
re: #255 ozbloke
500 Taliban prisoners tunnel out of prison
Nearly 500 Taliban prisoners have escaped from Kandahar prison in southern Afghanistan through a tunnel hundreds of metres long, Afghan officials say.
The Taliban said it was behind the huge jail break and that all of those who escaped were members of the militant Islamist organisation.
“A tunnel hundreds of metres long was dug from the south of the prison into the prison and 476 political prisoners escaped last night,” prison director General Ghulam Dastageer Mayar said.
Acting Kandahar police chief Shair Shah Yousufzai also confirmed the escape, saying: “Last night some political prisoners broke out of the prison and have escaped.”
Taliban spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi said his organisation was responsible for the mass break-out.
“Prisoners dug a 360-metre-long tunnel to the south of the prison,” he said.
Would it be in bad taste if I started whistling the theme to The Great Escape?
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:48:26pm |
re: #255 ozbloke
500 Taliban prisoners tunnel out of prison
Nearly 500 Taliban prisoners have escaped from Kandahar prison in southern Afghanistan through a tunnel hundreds of metres long, Afghan officials say.
The Taliban said it was behind the huge jail break and that all of those who escaped were members of the militant Islamist organisation.
“A tunnel hundreds of metres long was dug from the south of the prison into the prison and 476 political prisoners escaped last night,” prison director General Ghulam Dastageer Mayar said.
Acting Kandahar police chief Shair Shah Yousufzai also confirmed the escape, saying: “Last night some political prisoners broke out of the prison and have escaped.”
Taliban spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi said his organisation was responsible for the mass break-out.
“Prisoners dug a 360-metre-long tunnel to the south of the prison,” he said.
/no we just put homeland security in charge of the prison… catch & release is the order of the day.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:48:54pm |
re: #257 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Would it be in bad taste if I started whistling the theme to The Great Escape?
First thing I thought of. That’s a hell of a tunneling operation.
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engineer cat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:49:02pm |
town hall meeting blowback to the ryan plan
HAHAHAHahahahahahaha it ain’t working ya dumb wingnut bastids hahahaha
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:51:09pm |
re: #259 SanFranciscoZionist
First thing I thought of. That’s a hell of a tunneling operation.
oh that’s nothing, now getting custom BMWs into Gaza THAT is an operation…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:53:34pm |
re: #261 brookly red
oh that’s nothing, now getting custom BMWs into Gaza THAT is an operation…
You just bring them in one milk carton at a time.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:54:13pm |
re: #260 engineer dog
town hall meeting blowback to the ryan plan
HAHAHAHahahahahahaha it ain’t working ya dumb wingnut bastids hahahaha
Yeah, I’ve seen two other videos of Republicans getting the Ryan Plan thrown back in their face, Ryan being one of them. Were I the Dems, I’d start capitalizing on that, hammering the Ryan Plan daily.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:55:56pm |
re: #263 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, I’ve seen two other videos of Republicans getting the Ryan Plan thrown back in their face, Ryan being one of them. Were I the Dems, I’d start capitalizing on that, hammering the Ryan Plan daily.
but then you would have to back it up with the Obama plan… and it’s a hard rain thats gonna fall.
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:58:18pm |
re: #264 brookly red
but then you would have to back it up with the Obama plan… and it’s a hard rain thats gonna fall.
True, while he’s laid out the basics of his Plan, there’s nothing on paper that can be pointed to. At the same time, the Ryan Plan really isn’t much different, with a lot of blank spaces marked “Fill In Later.”
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 10:59:26pm |
re: #50 prononymous
I gotta run. But I just want to point out what I feel should be obvious.
They want the downfall of America, they have said as much. Yet waging a war, openly or covertly, on our soil would be difficult and have small effect besides the statistically small number of deaths and the demoralizing effect of terrorism. They are disconnected from their supplies, support, and friends. If they can draw us into a fight on their turf then they can attack us physically, morally, and financially. Unfortunately for us and the now nonexistent British empire, asymmetric warfare works.
They aren’t going to get what they want. America, with all of it’s flaws, is STILL the best system.
Land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE.
The freedom is what so many, elsewhere, do not have.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:00:04pm |
re: #265 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
True, while he’s laid out the basics of his Plan, there’s nothing on paper that can be pointed to. At the same time, the Ryan Plan really isn’t much different, with a lot of blank spaces marked “Fill In Later.”
the fact is we are in so F’n deep if either party filled in the blanks there would be blood in the streets.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:00:21pm |
re: #257 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Would it be in bad taste if I started whistling the theme to The Great Escape?
Yes, but bad taste can be funny, too!
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:00:38pm |
re: #52 Dark_Falcon
and the British were able to overcome it repeatedly. The key is to keep your public’s mind focused on the evil of the enemy. Make them into scum who must be destroyed.
And did it ever occur to you that the reason the British Empire doesn’t exist today is precisely because they treated their subjects like that, right to the very end? America, India, etc. Oppression and demonization might work for a while, but eventually people desire real freedom, even in the middle east. The British Empire had to weather it repeatedly because they never learned that lesson.
The only thing that is going to end religious extremism in the middle east is when it becomes socially unacceptable with the populace. War will never get us to that point. We shouldn’t be dropping bombs, we should be dropping internet connected netbooks on the populace, imo.
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engineer cat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:01:28pm |
re: #264 brookly red
but then you would have to back it up with the Obama plan… and it’s a hard rain thats gonna fall.
i think the ryan plan is the suicide note of the republican party
i would like to personally donate to a fund to send paul ryan around the country to describe his plan to as many americans as possible
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:01:48pm |
re: #267 brookly red
the fact is we are in so F’n deep if either party filled in the blanks there would be blood in the streets.
Oxes are going to be gored, one way or another. It’s a choice between the defense budget and taxing the rich vs. Medicare’s decimation and an even bigger giveaway to the rich.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:02:20pm |
re: #266 Floral Giraffe
They aren’t going to get what they want. America, with all of it’s flaws, is STILL the best system.
Land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE.
The freedom is what so many, elsewhere, do not have.
They are getting what they want, to bankrupt us. The rest is just propaganda.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:02:38pm |
re: #269 prononymous
And did it ever occur to you that the reason the British Empire doesn’t exist today is precisely because they treated their subjects like that, right to the very end? America, India, etc. Oppression and demonization might work for a while, but eventually people desire real freedom, even in the middle east. The British Empire had to weather it repeatedly because they never learned that lesson.
The only thing that is going to end religious extremism in the middle east is when it becomes socially unacceptable with the populace. War will never get us to that point. We shouldn’t be dropping bombs, we should be dropping internet connected netbooks on the populace, imo.
that was over 200 posts ago…
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:05:23pm |
re: #270 engineer dog
i think the ryan plan is the suicide note of the republican party
i would like to personally donate to a fund to send paul ryan around the country to describe his plan to as many americans as possible
wow, OK we could spend even more & crash even sooner…
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:07:50pm |
re: #274 prononymous
And?
and the person you are addressing long ago grew weary of this and is no longer here for you to confront…
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engineer cat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:08:58pm |
re: #275 brookly red
wow, OK we could spend even more & crash even sooner…
what statement are you replying to here?
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:11:01pm |
re: #277 engineer dog
what statement are you replying to here?
can’t you even remember your own posts?
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:13:07pm |
re: #278 prononymous
Fascinating.
I you find that fascinating this will blow your mind…
you are barking in the dark. Kinda Zen don’t you think?
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engineer cat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:13:17pm |
re: #279 brookly red
can’t you even remember your own posts?
the ryan plan is the suicide note of the republican party
as far as i can make out it is a slap in the face to their most reliable voters, and is generally offensive to most americans
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Targetpractice Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:14:42pm |
Think I’m gonna get while the gettin’s good. BBL, ya’ll.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:15:57pm |
re: #281 engineer dog
the ryan plan is the suicide note of the republican party
as far as i can make out it is a slap in the face to their most reliable voters, and is generally offensive to most americans
very good… now lets see if the “most” Americans (thats with a cap A mister) agree with you.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:17:31pm |
re: #280 brookly red
I you find that fascinating this will blow your mind…
you are barking in the dark. Kinda Zen don’t you think?
Nope.
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brookly red Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:18:12pm |
OK that’s it for me I am not doing the partisan BS any more, night y’all
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:20:36pm |
Yes, I imagine it would get tiring.
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engineer cat Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:23:15pm |
re: #283 brookly red
very good… now lets see if the “most” Americans (thats with a cap A mister) agree with you.
ABC News/Washington Post Poll. April 14-17, 2011
“In order to reduce the national debt, would you support or oppose cutting spending on Medicare, which is the government health insurance program for the elderly?”
support 21%
oppose 78%
“In order to reduce the national debt, would you support or oppose raising taxes on Americans with incomes over 250 thousand dollars a year?”
support 72%
oppose 27%
McClatchy-Marist Poll. April 10-14
“Increase taxes on income over 250,000 dollars”
support 62%
oppose 33%
“cut medicare and medicaid
support 18%
oppose 80%
polls are not elections, but the tea leaves do not read well for the republican party here
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:26:11pm |
re: #272 prononymous
I completely disagree.
They are talking points of hysteria.
It’s my opinion, given that this is America, we are free to discuss our opinions.
We’re very fortunate, that way.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:27:25pm |
re: #288 Floral Giraffe
I don’t follow, what are talking points of hysteria?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:29:20pm |
Back in November, Debbie Schlussel had decided that the guy who killed a Jewish businessman in Atlanta looked Muslim in the sketch. She was going to follow the case closely, with the usual caveat that if he was a Muslim it would probably never make the papers. (As if.)
So I checked up on the case.
They arrested a Jewish guy in January.
He looks just like the sketch.
Schlussel still hasn’t updated her site.
I paged it.
I’m STILL annoyed.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:29:35pm |
re: #289 prononymous
Do you really think the USA is bankrupt?
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:31:21pm |
re: #291 Floral Giraffe
Do you really think the USA is bankrupt?
No, not at this point in time. But that’s their goal, and the direction we are headed. To get us to spend tons of money, on credit. If we ever default, our economy will be toast.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:31:52pm |
re: #292 prononymous
Are you buying gold?
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:32:29pm |
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:34:41pm |
re: #291 Floral Giraffe
Do you really think the USA is bankrupt?
If we refuse to cut defense spending and raise taxes on the wealthy then we’re in for a world of hurt.
re: #293 Floral Giraffe
Are you buying gold?
My portfolio is based on chickens stuffed with ammunition and blood pressure medications.
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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:38:36pm |
re: #295 goddamnedfrank
I like your portfolio.
It’s been a hard week for me.
I’m out now.
Be well, all.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:40:52pm |
re: #296 Floral Giraffe
I like your portfolio.
It’s been a hard week for me.
I’m out now.
Be well, all.
Night, Floral. Get some rest.
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goddamnedfrank Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:43:03pm |
Sometimes I like to say “Chaka Khan” for no particular reason, this practice has brought me great success. I think other people should try sprinkling it into their dialog so that we all might live in a more Chaka-rific world.
/Chaka Khan
re: #296 Floral Giraffe
I like your portfolio.
It’s been a hard week for me.
I’m out now.
Be well, all.
I can only imagine. Take care.
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RadicalModerate Sun, Apr 24, 2011 11:57:07pm |
The FBI has identified the primary suspect in last week’s attempted bombing of a Littleton, CO shopping mall.
Suspect in Colorado bomb case had been recently released from prison
Amazingly, the suspect is not a Islamic jihadist, but he does fit the profile of a much more common domestic terrorist found in the US.
The FBI Denver Joint Terrorism Task Force identified the subject of a nationwide manhunt as Earl Albert Moore, 65.
Authorities, who released more photos of the suspect, said he has an extensive criminal background and multiple recognizable tattoos. They also said he should be considered armed and dangerous.
According to the source, Moore was released from an unknown federal prison on April 13.
A pipe bomb device was found after a fire broke out Wednesday in a back hallway at Southwest Plaza Mall in Littleton. The shopping center was evacuated.
The photos released Sunday show a man identified as Moore with a rose tattoo on his upper right arm, a knife or dagger on his left arm and a bearded Nordic warrior on his left forearm. He was last seen wearing glasses, the task force said in a statement.
[…]
Authorities are asking for the public’s help as they investigate the incident on the 12th anniversary of the shooting at nearby Columbine High School. Twelve students and a teacher were killed at the hands of two other students, who then killed themselves.
For those of you unaware, the date of the Columbine High shootings was April 20 - which corresponds with a certain World War II German dictator’s birthday.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:39:06am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:39:53am |
re: #266 Floral Giraffe
They aren’t going to get what they want. America, with all of it’s flaws, is STILL the best system.
Land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE.
The freedom is what so many, elsewhere, do not have.
I’m not as free as you are, so I’m always going to disagree with this
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:41:00am |
re: #290 SanFranciscoZionist
Back in November, Debbie Schlussel had decided that the guy who killed a Jewish businessman in Atlanta looked Muslim in the sketch. She was going to follow the case closely, with the usual caveat that if he was a Muslim it would probably never make the papers. (As if.)
So I checked up on the case.
They arrested a Jewish guy in January.
He looks just like the sketch.
Schlussel still hasn’t updated her site.
I paged it.
I’m STILL annoyed.
Would you expect Stormfront to return your emails? She’s just another one of those types, she just knows how to do the media blog soft shoe
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:50:18am |
re: #301 WindUpBird
I’m not as free as you are, so I’m always going to disagree with this
Hey WUB,
How your doing well.
An Australian Idol contestant from a couple of series ago.
An original track:
Bobby Flynn - The Boy Had Trouble
His arrangement of a known tune:
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:51:21am |
re: #301 WindUpBird
Why aren’t you as free?
You are in the US, IIRC.
You could be in Iraq, Afgahnistan, and the list goes on.
I am seriously curios…
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:54:01am |
re: #304 Floral Giraffe
And, spelling deficient!
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:56:59am |
re: #304 Floral Giraffe
Why aren’t you as free?
You are in the US, IIRC.
You could be in Iraq, Afgahnistan, and the list goes on.
I am seriously curios…
Not speaking for wub, but I would suggest that the gay and lesbian community do not feel they share in all that is given the the heterosexual community for one.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:57:44am |
re: #306 ozbloke
Oh and hi Floral.
{FG} Sorry to hear of your loss…
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 12:59:35am |
re: #296 Floral Giraffe
I like your portfolio.
It’s been a hard week for me.
I’m out now.
Be well, all.
Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh above. I’m not some whacked out Beckian or conspiracy theorist. And Bankrupt isn’t the right term. But the national debit is a problem that I don’t believe is being handled appropriately by democrats or republicans (I laugh that they are suddenly so concerned about the debit now that a democrat is in the white house). We need to cut some wasteful programs and raise taxes progressively. Also close the tax loopholes on corporations, among other things. The debit isn’t something we should ignore. If we default even once on that debit our economy will be in serious trouble.
Sorry to hear about your week. I hope things get better.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:03:20am |
re: #308 prononymous
That sounds more fair, than what you posted earlier.
Or, I’m feeling more tolerant.
Either way, we’re good.
BTW, it’s REALLY hard to bury a parent.
Shitty week for me.
WAY too emotional.
Be well, all.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:04:49am |
re: #304 Floral Giraffe
Why aren’t you as free?
You are in the US, IIRC.
You could be in Iraq, Afgahnistan, and the list goes on.
I am seriously curios…
because I’m gay.
because all those rights married people get?
I don’t get those rights.
All those adoption rights married people have?
I don’t get those rights.
Second class citizens don’t often enjoy their station
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:08:16am |
re: #304 Floral Giraffe
Also, being labeled as a pedophile by the mainstream Republican party
I sorta take a dark view of a country, where a massive hunk of it, and the politicians that those people elect to Senate and the House, just assumes I’m inclined to be a child rapist, and can win elections based solely on making me out to be a child rapist
Hence why I identify more as a Portlander than an American. Portland makes me an optimist! America makes me a pessimist.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:12:10am |
re: #304 Floral Giraffe
You know when Jeremiah Wright said ‘God Damn America?” on that VHS recording of that sermon that they dug up? And it was all over the news for weeks and weeks because the standards are different for white preachers vs. black preachers?
let’s just say I understood his sentiment
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:12:42am |
re: #306 ozbloke
Not speaking for wub, but I would suggest that the gay and lesbian community do not feel they share in all that is given the the heterosexual community for one.
yup!
America is a world of I Got Mine, Fuck You
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:13:46am |
re: #310 WindUpBird
BIG HUG.
F the rest of them.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:15:21am |
re: #314 Floral Giraffe
it’s cool
But the reason I don’t really like America as a whole, bottom line, I don’t feel safe
I like Portland because I feel safe here
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:17:24am |
Safety is a place for your heart.
It’s important, but it’s also emotional.
I like to think of you as a friend,
a furry one, if that’s OK with you?
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:21:27am |
re: #313 WindUpBird
yup!
America is a world of I Got Mine, Fuck You
As you probably know, Im Australian, and I don’t want to be seen as shit canning the States, but as time goes by it would seem those with more money get more access to effect the rights and freedoms of all Americans.
This won’t end well if the direction isn’t changed.
The middle class use to tell the upper class to think about the lower class.
Remove the middle class, problem solved for the upper class.
Its has effects for many minorities, race, sexual preference, health, age and education are some..
Given the US history, I believe she will rise to the occasion.
I just don’t know how long it will take, and how many will have to pay the price.
God I hope its not the elderly, Americas success was built on their shoulders.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:25:00am |
re: #315 WindUpBird
it’s cool
But the reason I don’t really like America as a whole, bottom line, I don’t feel safe
I like Portland because I feel safe here
We too want to head down the same path, apparently.
Christian leader uses Anzacs to hit gays, Muslims
A former Special Air Services commander turned conservative Christian commentator has used Anzac Day to attack homosexuals and Muslims.
“Just hope that as we remember servicemen and women today we remember the Australia they fought for - wasn’t gay marriage and Islamic!” said Jim Wallace, the head of the Australian Christian Lobby, on Twitter.
Followers of Mr Wallace soon attacked him.
SeandBlogonaut said Mr Wallace was “despicable”.
“Using ANZAC Day to push your anti-gay, anti-Muslim agenda - you are truly a despicable individual,” he tweeted.
Others declared him a “bigot”, “homophobe in disgrace” and an “A-grade douchebag”.
Mr Wallace did offer an apology about 40 minutes after his initial tweet and deleted it later this afternoon.
“OK you are right my apologies this was the wrong context to raise these issues. ANZACs mean too much to me to demean this day, not intended,” Mr Wallace tweeted.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:34:00am |
re: #317 ozbloke
The future will not be a repeat of the past.
… for the US, and for Australia.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is a truism passed down over the ages. If it happens here in the US it will happen there too.
How it happens may change in details between the future and the past, but it is true none-the-less.
The full blossoming of the industrial revolution in the late 19th century up till WWII changed how we all live. That will not last forever, though, and I for one expect that this century will indeed find the “limits to growth” a real phenomenon. I think we can all expect more violence as the world competes for tighter supplies of fossil fuels and space. Violence brings destruction. Destruction brings poverty.
How it will happen, in specifics - I don’t know. If I live to be a very old man I expect to see several more wars come and go, and I expect my life to get tighter and tighter and the people around me to become more and more uncomfortable as the reality that images of the future sold to them by politicians and marketers are just fantasies.
Woe be to minorities of any kind.
Even down in Oz I see that you had prison violence by immigrants the other day… immigration will become even more hotly contested in Australia than here in the US.
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:36:00am |
re: #20 Dark_Falcon
re: #13 ozblokeHi Dark, remind me please what crime was Assange found guilty of?
I think they will be found guilty when (Manning) or if (Assange) they are brought to trial. In Manning’s case, I don’t see how he avoids prison. What he did clearly violates the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Really… what USA crime did Assange commit over the leaks? While I absolutely agree his actions regarding releasing names was a huge mistake (understatement), I truly am not aware of the specific USA law that he broke.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:44:32am |
re: #319 freetoken
capitalism won’t last forever either, eventually something else will take its place after capitalism goes too far
who knows, that could be soon! The next fifty years, these water shortages in parts of the country like Nevada and Texas, where they waste like nothing else, build exurbs they can’t sustain… We might see riots and death like we could only dream of. Our country could look like countries we see on the news.
What happens to texas with $10 a gallon gas and a water shortage? Texas dies. It’s unsustainable. They leave. Like an enormous Detroit in the desert.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:46:26am |
re: #319 freetoken
The future will not be a repeat of the past.
… for the US, and for Australia.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer is a truism passed down over the ages. If it happens here in the US it will happen there too.
How it happens may change in details between the future and the past, but it is true none-the-less.
The full blossoming of the industrial revolution in the late 19th century up till WWII changed how we all live. That will not last forever, though, and I for one expect that this century will indeed find the “limits to growth” a real phenomenon. I think we can all expect more violence as the world competes for tighter supplies of fossil fuels and space. Violence brings destruction. Destruction brings poverty.
How it will happen, in specifics - I don’t know. If I live to be a very old man I expect to see several more wars come and go, and I expect my life to get tighter and tighter and the people around me to become more and more uncomfortable as the reality that images of the future sold to them by politicians and marketers are just fantasies.
Woe be to minorities of any kind.
Even down in Oz I see that you had prison violence by immigrants the other day… immigration will become even more hotly contested in Australia than here in the US.
I agree with your post.
Though I would add that the time to process refugee status, and the consultation with with refugees on the process as it happens, the lack of information on their status contribute greatly to the violence.
On the rest of your post I would add ‘potable water’ to the causes of future wars, and not that far away either.
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:48:12am |
re: #310 WindUpBird
because I’m gay.
because all those rights married people get?
I don’t get those rights.
All those adoption rights married people have?
I don’t get those rights.
Second class citizens don’t often enjoy their station
I know this may not help your current situation, but I believe the younger generation for the most part, gets it. My son, 19, straight, bought one of those FCK H8 T shirts that says “Some Dudes Marry Dudes Get Over It” on the back. All of his peers think the same thing.
USA will change, it is just frustrating that this is taking so long….
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freetoken Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:48:24am |
re: #321 WindUpBird
I do expect a significant reversal of the “sunbelt” migration patters to occur during this century. And yes, Las Vegas is unsustainable, as well as most of the desert cities of any size. And yes, water is the issue on the list that no American politician seems to want to discuss.
As for the demise of capitalism - don’t be so sure. Capitalism is a product of agriculture, and as long as humans engage in agriculture we’ll do capitalism of some sort.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:49:34am |
re: #320 boxhead
I think they will be found guilty when (Manning) or if (Assange) they are brought to trial. In Manning’s case, I don’t see how he avoids prison. What he did clearly violates the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Really… what USA crime did Assange commit over the leaks? While I absolutely agree his actions regarding releasing names was a huge mistake (understatement), I truly am not aware of the specific USA law that he broke.
I really missed the point with Dark earlier, I wasn’t really for me about whether a law was broken, but Dark’s willingness to see them jailed forever, before charges are laid or a conviction found.
Oh well, next time…
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:50:53am |
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:52:11am |
re: #325 ozbloke
Really… what USA crime did Assange commit over the leaks? While I absolutely agree his actions regarding releasing names was a huge mistake (understatement), I truly am not aware of the specific USA law that he broke.
I really missed the point with Dark earlier, I wasn’t really for me about whether a law was broken, but Dark’s willingness to see them jailed forever, before charges are laid or a conviction found.
Oh well, next time…
quoting problems… :)
but yes…. name the crime and move from there. The leak of classified docs was not by him.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:55:23am |
re: #317 ozbloke
As you probably know, Im Australian, and I don’t want to be seen as shit canning the States, but as time goes by it would seem those with more money get more access to effect the rights and freedoms of all Americans.
This won’t end well if the direction isn’t changed.
The middle class use to tell the upper class to think about the lower class.
Remove the middle class, problem solved for the upper class.
Its has effects for many minorities, race, sexual preference, health, age and education are some..Given the US history, I believe she will rise to the occasion.
I just don’t know how long it will take, and how many will have to pay the price.God I hope its not the elderly, Americas success was built on their shoulders.
BY ALL MEANS, dude, I shitcan the US daily :D
I worked in health care with disadvantaged populations. And the way we treat the mentally ill in this country, we’re fucking animals. I am disgusted like I can’t even describe. i watche dmy friends working in metal helath break down and cry weekly because of funding cuts.
I saw a friend of mine, we were going to a bar downtown, he abruptly took off running.
Turns out, he found one of his own clients, from a mental respite home he worked at. He was on the street, begging. back strung out, back addicted. After this guy had worked his brains out trying to help him. And later was fired because of DING! mental health federal budget cuts! Mental health isn’t sexy. As Dark falcon shows us every day: weapons of death are extremely sexy!
Makes me so mad I could spike my monitor into the floor. But that’s America. That’s our great country. That’s our land of the free.
You’re free to starve! Free to go crazy on the streets. Free to sleep under a bridge.
What was it Jesus said, how you treat the least among us?
“The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’
And we’re not doing so great in that department.
We may rise to the occasion. What I think, as an American, is some of America will rise, and some won’t. We’ll start seeing wildly different qualities of life as civic planning decisions made decades ago come home to roost. Efficient cities will win. Suburbs will die. Entire states will crumble in the next 50 years, Detroit-style, unless we figure out some magical way of reversing our water shortage in the wake of accelerating gas prices and rising population needs.
(by the way, you have one of the best metal bands on earth in your backyard, the mighty Alchemist)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 1:56:45am |
re: #324 freetoken
I do expect a significant reversal of the “sunbelt” migration patters to occur during this century. And yes, Las Vegas is unsustainable, as well as most of the desert cities of any size. And yes, water is the issue on the list that no American politician seems to want to discuss.
As for the demise of capitalism - don’t be so sure. Capitalism is a product of agriculture, and as long as humans engage in agriculture we’ll do capitalism of some sort.
Nobody wants to be the pol to tell those Don’t Mess With Texas types that they’re digging their own graves and building their own coffins with their obscene excuses for civic planning.
Nobody gets elected by telling people they’re fucked and they’ll have to move.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:01:30am |
re: #328 WindUpBird
anyone wants to know why fetishization of our guns and tanks and our wanton waste building such pisses me off, it’s this
Nobody fetishizes health and safety. We fetishize death and killing, and things that kill. And things that are designed to bring death. We’re still just animals that think.
hell, a poster here was like, we should cut aid to mexico because they dared complain about all our weapons destabilizing their country! We should fight back by destabilizing them MORE. Punishing women and children. Killing women and children. because that’s what cutting aid means. Like they’re our slave. Like a beaten dog.
The words I have to say for such insane thoughts would get me banned. So I don’t say them.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:03:43am |
re: #330 WindUpBird
I’d like to buy you an E-Beer.
Or a pic of a beer.
:)
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:07:36am |
IMO, the biggest issue that nobody wants to talk about is the global human population. Unconstrained population growth in animals leads to massive population crashes when resources run out. But even mentioning it as an issue typically draws extremely negative reactions, making it nearly impossible to talk about in the political sphere.
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:13:03am |
re: #328 WindUpBird
BY ALL MEANS, dude, I shitcan the US daily :D
I worked in health care with disadvantaged populations. And the way we treat the mentally ill in this country, we’re fucking animals. I am disgusted like I can’t even describe. i watche dmy friends working in metal helath break down and cry weekly because of funding cuts.
What was it Jesus said, how you treat the least among us?And we’re not doing so great in that department.
We may rise to the occasion. What I think, as an American, is some of America will rise, and some won’t. We’ll start seeing wildly different qualities of life as civic planning decisions made decades ago come home to roost. Efficient cities will win. Suburbs will die. Entire states will crumble in the next 50 years, Detroit-style, unless we figure out some magical way of reversing our water shortage in the wake of accelerating gas prices and rising population needs.
(by the way, you have one of the best metal bands on earth in your backyard, the mighty Alchemist)
I’ve had a successful 20 years in IT, I’m a small time ISP and do hosting, coding etc. I had a BBS once upon a time.
I’m doing the sea change. My kids are old enough to look after themselves now. I’m going in to community services.
In particular, want to work to help the elderly and disabled stay in their homes as long as they can.
We are not immune here, I don’t know the stats for the States, but our baby boomers started retiring a couple of years ago now, the next twenty years will be decisive.
Our population is not growing fast enough, and more people are leaving the workforce than are entering. Our unemployment has hovered around 5%, which we consider ‘full employment’, we are short on skilled workers.
Our tax base is shrinking.
Many more cuts will come, obviously health is a big cost, even with are Medicare system. Don’t get me wrong here, I wouldn’t swap what we have for the US system.
I feel for the elderly, as they spent a lifetime paying in to the governments system, they should not be robbed of their entitlements now.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:14:32am |
re: #331 Varek Raith
I’d like to buy you an E-Beer.
Or a pic of a beer.
:)
^_^;;
well, if you happen to be in the bay area in January…
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Usually refered to as anyways Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:15:16am |
re: #332 prononymous
IMO, the biggest issue that nobody wants to talk about is the global human population. Unconstrained population growth in animals leads to massive population crashes when resources run out. But even mentioning it as an issue typically draws extremely negative reactions, making it nearly impossible to talk about in the political sphere.
// Don’t go all negative on us about the negative emotions.
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:16:52am |
re: #332 prononymous
IMO, the biggest issue that nobody wants to talk about is the global human population. Unconstrained population growth in animals leads to massive population crashes when resources run out. But even mentioning it as an issue typically draws extremely negative reactions, making it nearly impossible to talk about in the political sphere.
I wrote a few different responses and deleted them all. You are absolutely right that this is a very sensitive subject.
And yes, this is one of the elephants in the room, there are others, but population growth probably is the root cause of the others. What I have heard others say is that in cultures where women have equal rights, then birth rates decline. Our species has a long way to go in that respect.
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:17:11am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:22:48am |
re: #337 boxhead
I wrote a few different responses and deleted them all. You are absolutely right that this is a very sensitive subject.
And yes, this is one of the elephants in the room, there are others, but population growth probably is the root cause of the others. What I have heard others say is that in cultures where women have equal rights, then birth rates decline. Our species has a long way to go in that respect.
And birth rates REALLY decline when both parents need to work their asses off just to be able to afford health care, to be able to afford to have a kid.
People look around and go ‘why bother having a kid? it’s only gonna get worse, and we can’t afford it!’ Or they have one kid instead of two or three. One kid families=declining birth rate. My high school classmates? They’re all stopping with one kid. And they’re professionals. engineers. Real estate agents. IT guys. I can’t imagine being a parent, trying to afford health care for a kid. It’s insane. it’s not possible.
And the rich get richer and the poor get fucked over and out
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:23:13am |
re: #337 boxhead
I wrote a few different responses and deleted them all. You are absolutely right that this is a very sensitive subject.
And yes, this is one of the elephants in the room, there are others, but population growth probably is the root cause of the others. What I have heard others say is that in cultures where women have equal rights, then birth rates decline. Our species has a long way to go in that respect.
It is a difficult subject indeed. Even mentioning it makes my hair stand on end with thoughts of past genocide, eugenics, etc. Unfortunately, those associations are part of what keeps it from being talked about. It should be obvious that infinite humans sharing finite resources won’t work. But I haven’t the foggiest idea how to approach the subject, much less what to do about it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:26:02am |
re: #340 prononymous
we won’t do anything. We’ll continue to be a support structure for the ultra rich until America is destablilized. Maybe the water shortage will do it. Maybe gas prices will do it. We’re soft. We won’t know how to handle it. It’ll be ugly and deadly.
We’ll react to what IS done. Which will probably be a whole lotta wars and blight and starvation and refugees and ghost cities and ghost nations. We’ll probably try and fix it with more war!
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:29:21am |
re: #341 WindUpBird
You are probably right. We won’t do anything about it. Or AGW. It is too easy to ignore. We would have to do something RIGHT NOW, and obviously that isn’t going to happen.
I need to find a remote pacific island to hide out on…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:36:47am |
re: #342 prononymous
You are probably right. We won’t do anything about it. Or AGW. It is too easy to ignore. We would have to do something RIGHT NOW, and obviously that isn’t going to happen.
I need to find a remote pacific island to hide out on…
eh, we all gotta go sometime
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:43:39am |
re: #343 WindUpBird
eh, we all gotta go sometime
Bleak, but true. I have already had a wonderful life. But it would be a nice cherry on top if the end was on a beautiful tropical beach somewhere where I could be consumed by crabs, rather than at the hands of an angry mob of humans.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:44:40am |
re: #344 prononymous
Bleak, but true. I have already had a wonderful life. But it would be a nice cherry on top if the end was on a beautiful tropical beach somewhere where I could be consumed by crabs, rather than at the hands of an angry mob of humans.
Mmmm crab
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 2:47:05am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:02:34am |
Sooo that Aceofwhat guy, he’s a pile of shit I never have to think about again
Man, I’m ashamed to think I sorta liked that guy
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:07:12am |
re: #347 WindUpBird
Hmm. I think I missed something. He was posting earlier…
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:09:44am |
re: #347 WindUpBird
Sooo that Aceofwhat guy, he’s a pile of shit I never have to think about again
Man, I’m ashamed to think I sorta liked that guy
I am still surprised by unexpected bigoted comments from people that I have always got along with. I guess many people fear change so much it tweaks their brain…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:09:59am |
re: #348 prononymous
look up his Yeti comment in the last thread or so, “blah blah blah pre op Yetis, my wife’s a bigot, blah blah blah”
too pissed to look it up
My tolerance for casual bigotry on LGF is now effectively nil
ESPECIALLY for the defensless trans population, espeically after a trans person was beaten half to fucking death in the news
people :(
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:10:27am |
re: #349 boxhead
I am still surprised by unexpected bigoted comments from people that I have always got along with. I guess many people fear change so much it tweaks their brain…
If that guy ever comes back, I’m going to be an unpleasant person to read
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:11:25am |
re: #351 WindUpBird
If that guy ever comes back, I’m going to be an unpleasant person to read
I have a niceness filter built into my web browser that makes everyone nice…
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:16:09am |
re: #352 boxhead
I have a niceness filter built into my web browser that makes everyone nice…
//
hahaha
I wish i had a filter to filer out certain users!
But yeha, the causal soft bigotry is the worst, because that shit is allowed to grow, and stand. And people here are too nice, they would rather get along. Mandy Manners was celebrated here right up to the point where Charles destroyed her subhuman racist ass, and I was downdinged by the Very Serious Tribalist Conservatives who questioning all her racist slime
like those guys who just happily says “I like gay people! I have gay friends! I just don’t want them teaching my children.” Those guys were classmates, they’re on facebook. If I go onto facebook, it’s gonna be those guys who think they’re my friends. HEY MAN! WHAT’S UP?!?!?
So I don’t go on facebook. I have enough evil around me, without it trying to be my friend
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:17:02am |
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:17:21am |
re: #350 WindUpBird
You misinterpreted that slightly— his wife was calling all men Yetis, rather than trannies specifically. It’s still not a position I support, but it’s not a bigoted one, just a rather gender-is-really-important-one.
I don’t get why people freak out over bathroom stuff so much. At all. What the fuck does it matter?
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:19:37am |
re: #350 WindUpBird
Found it. Ick, what a disgusting comment to make. I’m really sorry that the non-straight community has to deal with shit like this.
I hope our cephalopod successors aren’t so bigoted against those with different chromatophore skin patterns or obsessed with the genitalia of others’ sexual partners.
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boxhead Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:22:06am |
re: #354 WindUpBird
Hopefully soon people will judge a person based on their character rather than a institutional religious belief, deep seated fear, or just plain ignorance.
that would be a good day!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:23:33am |
re: #359 Obdicut
You misinterpreted that slightly— his wife was calling all men Yetis, rather than trannies specifically. It’s still not a position I support, but it’s not a bigoted one, just a rather gender-is-really-important-one.
I don’t get why people freak out over bathroom stuff so much. At all. What the fuck does it matter?
I read it three times, I got the impression that it was like a “ho hoho trans who don’t pass! So funny! My wife is funny!”
And because I have a lot of trans friends who get that a lot, I have nooooooo patience for it whatsoever
And yeah, the bathroom thing itself is bigotry to me. because it’s come up a million times, it’s the pat conservative argument to demonize trans people, sorta like how gay people, it’s usually gays teaching kids that is the talking point to conservatives. That story in the news where the student teacher was transferred for admitting he was gay. You can say you’re married to a lady, that’s not sexual. if you say you have a boyfriend? or that you can’t marry a man, so that’s why you’re not married? You get pulled from your teaching gig.
It’s ALWAYS the bathroom thing. it’s a talking point meant to trivialize and disregard and make light of what is honestly a heartbreaking state that drives TG people to suicide. Every bathroom break becomes this possibility of assault.
it’s reduced to nothing. And when you can reduce the issue to nothing, well, then it’s just some guy in a dress that is the butt of jokes.
Sorry, VERY sensitive about this stuff, it makes me furious, and it’s always going to make me furious. I know a whole house of TG folks, all friends, they moved to Seattle to a big house-o-geeks in Northgate because they were all on the east coast, and they just felt unsafe. too many incidents. They moved across the country to get away from it!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:26:02am |
re: #360 prononymous
Found it. Ick, what a disgusting comment to make. I’m really sorry that the non-straight community has to deal with shit like this.
I hope our cephalopod successors aren’t so bigoted against those with different chromatophore skin patterns or obsessed with the genitalia of others’ sexual partners.
no doubt
Every one of my TG and genderqueer friends. EVERY ONE had a bad childhood. Some with suicide attempts, some just got their asses kicked or disowned from their families. Most moved to the west coast to get away.
but it’s still a joke, except when it results in teenagers trying to kill a trans woman by kicking her to death, while everyone stands around filming it for youtube. America.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:27:20am |
re: #359 Obdicut
also, AceofWhat’s thing coming hot on the heels of that brutal beatdown, EXACTLY because of that
it’s just unreal to me
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:29:10am |
re: #362 WindUpBird
I read it three times, I got the impression that it was like a “ho hoho trans who don’t pass! So funny! My wife is funny!”
Nah, the weird thing is— as others pointed out— it had nothing to do with ‘passing’, it had to do with whether or not the block and tackle was still there.
THis bit:
i don’t care if she looks like a Yeti, she deserves to share my bathroom,
That says a post-op M-to-F who still looks very male is fine with her, but a pre-op isn’t.
The problem with that being, of course, that it’s unenforceable. As is any rule you’d make about the bathroom, really.
It’s ALWAYS the bathroom thing. it’s a talking point meant to trivialize and disregard and make light of what is honestly a heartbreaking state that drives TG people to suicide.
I really don’t think so. I think it’s a certain insecurity on the part of those who are saying it. I don’t think it’s actually an attack, I think it’s a defensive reaction.
What it is that they’re insecure about or afraid of, I have no idea. If it’s about sharing the restroom with someone who’s into you, well, we’re not going to ban gay people from the restroom anytime soon, so that seems like a lost cause. If it’s about banning people who make you uncomfortable to look at, then that’s so subjective I don’t think there’s any good rule that can be made.
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:31:39am |
re: #362 WindUpBird
I read it three times, I got the impression that it was like a “ho hoho trans who don’t pass! So funny! My wife is funny!”
And because I have a lot of trans friends who get that a lot, I have nooo patience for it whatsoever
And yeah, the bathroom thing itself is bigotry to me. because it’s come up a million times, it’s the pat conservative argument to demonize trans people, sorta like how gay people, it’s usually gays teaching kids that is the talking point to conservatives. That story in the news where the student teacher was transferred for admitting he was gay. You can say you’re married to a lady, that’s not sexual. if you say you have a boyfriend? or that you can’t marry a man, so that’s why you’re not married? You get pulled from your teaching gig.
It’s ALWAYS the bathroom thing. it’s a talking point meant to trivialize and disregard and make light of what is honestly a heartbreaking state that drives TG people to suicide. Every bathroom break becomes this possibility of assault.
it’s reduced to nothing. And when you can reduce the issue to nothing, well, then it’s just some guy in a dress that is the butt of jokes.
Sorry, VERY sensitive about this stuff, it makes me furious, and it’s always going to make me furious. I know a whole house of TG folks, all friends, they moved to Seattle to a big house-o-geeks in Northgate because they were all on the east coast, and they just felt unsafe. too many incidents. They moved across the country to get away from it!
The ‘bathroom thing’ is usually a last gasp straw. If that is a best argument, they are conceding a pretty fair amount of prejudice.
All over the world, the vast majority of people go into the bathroom, do what needs to be done and get out.
Anti gay agendas paint gays as being the radical outliers- a distinct and small minority.
TG is a whole other issue that requires a whole other conversation as I noted yesterday.
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:33:33am |
re: #366 researchok
I would also add that TG’s are as discreet as anyone else in bathrooms.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:35:55am |
re: #366 researchok
Transgender people make one portion of the argument about homosexuality very well; nobody would willingly choose that life if they didn’t have a significant inner drive prompting them to do so. It’s a life of constantly not fitting in, of constantly facing possible fear, disgust, and even violence simply because of very minor cosmetic aspects of yourself. And yet so many people act as though TG people are just being intentionally difficult, just fucking it up for the rest of us. I don’t get it.
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:39:14am |
re: #368 Obdicut
Transgender people make one portion of the argument about homosexuality very well; nobody would willingly choose that life if they didn’t have a significant inner drive prompting them to do so. It’s a life of constantly not fitting in, of constantly facing possible fear, disgust, and even violence simply because of very minor cosmetic aspects of yourself. And yet so many people act as though TG people are just being intentionally difficult, just fucking it up for the rest of us. I don’t get it.
Absolutely true.
TG issues are extremely complex.
I do wonder if conflating TGism directly with gay issues is a good idea. There are similarities in discrimination of course but as you note, the TG issue poses a whole other set of problems.
WUB touched on that yesterday AM.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:39:51am |
Personally, I’d add that it’s isn’t anyone’s fucking business what kind of bits I have down in the crotch area. If you want to find out you will have to take me out on a date and convince me you are someone I want to share those parts with. Trying to peek at them in the bathroom is an invasion of my privacy, among other things.
For the record though, I have a 4 foot monster cock.
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:40:24am |
re: #370 prononymous
Personally, I’d add that it’s isn’t anyone’s fucking business what kind of bits I have down in the crotch area. If you want to find out you will have to take me out on a date and convince me you are someone I want to share those parts with. Trying to peek at them in the bathroom is an invasion of my privacy, among other things.
For the record though, I have a 4 foot monster cock.
What you say, Tiny.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:43:04am |
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:43:27am |
re: #368 Obdicut
Transgender people make one portion of the argument about homosexuality very well; nobody would willingly choose that life if they didn’t have a significant inner drive prompting them to do so. It’s a life of constantly not fitting in, of constantly facing possible fear, disgust, and even violence simply because of very minor cosmetic aspects of yourself. And yet so many people act as though TG people are just being intentionally difficult, just fucking it up for the rest of us. I don’t get it.
I would add one more thing: It can be hard to determine if an individual is driven by real TG or by another psychological dysfunction.
Either way, the TG community deserves sensitivity on our part.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:43:47am |
re: #370 prononymous
For the record though, I have a 4 foot monster cock.
Pshaw. That’s nothin’. Check out this cowboy.
Image: thisisthebiggestchickeneverlol-1801-8736-bypass-facebook-fan-pages.jpg
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:44:42am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:45:09am |
Now I’m imagining how much worse it would have been if it was the 2004 LGF in a fast moving thread discussing TG folks
I probably would have been on Ace’s SIDE, relatively speaking, judging by the comment climate back then
“Well, at least he’s not some creationist warmonger telling me all my friends are pedophiles! I’ll take my victories where I can…”
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 3:47:01am |
re: #376 WindUpBird
Now I’m imagining how much worse it would have been if it was the 2004 LGF in a fast moving thread discussing TG folks
I probably would have been on Ace’s SIDE, relatively speaking, judging by the comment climate back then
“Well, at least he’s not some creationist warmonger telling me all my friends are pedophiles! I’ll take my victories where I can…”
Thank God for evolution.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:05:11am |
re: #377 researchok
Thank God for evolution.
This place really is pretty unique and fascinating for the big swing in comment culture, that plus the semi-closed system
Not even just the political culture, there’s like, entire personality types which (IMHO) thrived and were celebrated 6 years ago here that would probably be flamed into digital skeletons and regarded as imbeciles by the current crowd
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:08:50am |
re: #373 researchok
I would add one more thing: It can be hard to determine if an individual is driven by real TG or by another psychological dysfunction.
Either way, the TG community deserves sensitivity on our part.
Um. I wouldn’t call that exactly the most sensitive way to describe it, imo.
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:17:27am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:21:38am |
re: #379 prononymous
we actually had an interesting discussion about TG and alienation, and how surgery is often seen as the first response, it was last night, we both had a lot of stuff to say, it was a good convo. personally, I think surgery should be the last resort. if someone can feel “themselves” without surgery, that’s a win IMHO. it’s why I love the genderqueer movement, because we’re starting to accept the notion that people can feel “in between” the binary, and be okay, and be accepted. And not have to go under the knife to serve the paranoia of these bathroom obsessed bigots.
That’s another thing that made me angry about Ace’s comment, the implied notion that only TG who undergo full surgical transition are worthy of respect.
Surgery is invasive, risky, irreversible and unbelievably expensive under the best of circumstances, and the notion that someone must go under the knife to be worthy of respect as a TG person, like they’re “faking” if they’re preop, that’s pretty weird and dehumanizing. people just looking for ANY reason to feel superior by putting down and dehumanizing others.
I just can’t relate to anyone for whom the bathroom thing is important to them. it just seems barbaric and childish. People who get stuck on the bathroom thing, I can’t relate. Like somehow, they’re put out, they’re SO IMPORTANT
as opposed to, you know, the trans person who’s constantly worried about being confronted by some nasty person in a bathroom, or some bully, which happens.
Safety is more important to me. Respecting people and their self-image is important to me. And it always seems that behind the incessant bathroom talk, there’s people who hate. it’s hateful.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:22:57am |
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:24:42am |
re: #379 prononymous
Um. I wouldn’t call that exactly the most sensitive way to describe it, imo.
You missed my point.
TG is a real (albeit rare) condition.
Unfortunately, there are cases where TG is a misdiagnoses. The underlying pathology is not real TGism
Yesterday AM, WUB and I had a great conversation on this very topic.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:25:40am |
Scrolling back through yesterdays threads and it looks like I missed all kinds of fun. I left yesterday mornings thread just before shit hit the fan. My timing sucks.
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freetoken Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:26:23am |
How the mighty have fallen:
Poll: Palin, Miller are out of favor with Alaskans
A poll released this week by Dittman Research suggests Alaskans have had it with Joe Miller, aren’t crazy about Sarah Palin and are pretty happy with the congressional delegation, especially Lisa Murkowski.
The poll, of 400 Alaskans, was done March 3-17 and released by Dittman this week. According to Dittman’s summary:
Miller, who defeated Murkowski in the Republican primary last summer then eventually lost in the general election when she ran as a write-in, has very high negatives. Only 6 percent said they had a “very favorable” opinion of Miller and just 12 percent said “somewhat favorable” (for a total positive rating of 18 percent). His negatives: 73 percent (20 percent had a “somewhat unfavorable” opinion and 53 percent said “very unfavorable.”) Nine percent were unsure.
Palin’s total positives were 36 percent (13 percent very favorable, 23 percent somewhat favorable) and negatives of 61 percent (22 pecrent somewhat unfavorable, 39 percent very unfavorable). Like Miller, the biggest group was the “very unfavorable.” Only 3 percent were unsure.
[…]
As time passes people become more aware of vacuity of the wingnuts’ fantasies?
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:28:03am |
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:28:32am |
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freetoken Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:31:35am |
Meanwhile, Donald Trump keeps tacking his yacht starboard:
Abortion, marriage views have evolved, Trump says
Donald Trump said while his opinions on same-sex marriage and abortion have grown more conservative over the years, he never truly favored either.
“As I’ve grown older, as I’ve seen things happen in life, I’ve changed my views — and others have also,” he said Wednesday.
When Trump considered a bid for president with the Reform Party a decade ago, he said he thought gay couples should have the same rights as heterosexual marriage couples for inheritance, insurance and other matters, but he opposed making same-sex marriage legal. And he supported a woman’s right to choose an abortion.
… but he still might not make it safely into the harbor of hate:
Today, he said abortion should be legal only in cases of rape or incest or when the health of the mother is at risk — a position that’s out of step with many religious conservatives in Iowa who believe life begins at conception.
“Ronald Reagan had the same basic stances I had, and I absolutely believe in the three instances” of exception, he said. “I hope that I can convince Iowans that I will be the best to save our country, and the fact is, I am pro-life.”
[…]
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:32:38am |
re: #379 prononymous
the ultimate goal is to have a person at peace with their self image and their body, IMHO. Whichever route that may take
And of course the same people who bag on TG folks just for wanting to live life like they feel inside, are taking rogaine, doing botox, working out not for health but to lose weight, engaging in dangerous diets, obsessing about their hairline, getting plastic surgery, spending too much money on jewelry and cars to feed their own self-esteem needs. My partner’s mother has had more times under the knife for plastic surgery than I’ve had cars. I think she’s spent more on plastic surgery than I’ve spent on years of rent. if it makes her happy, great! it’s her money. But it’s all the same feelings. people not at peace with themselves. Our culture encourages this, but only if your desire is to conform and consume and be traditionally beautiful. Woe be to the woman who likes being overweight and defends her happiness with her body image.
Check out the nasty comments on HuffPo whenever someone has a tattoo on their face. The hostility whenever someone doesn’t have the conventional standards of beauty, it gets weapons grade ugly.
personally, I think botox is terrifying. Anyone who takes botox looks dead to me. Like they’re wearing a dead wax mask of their own face. Injecting poison into themselves, removing expression from their face. To me, that’s like cutting your fingers off to have smaller hands.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:34:36am |
re: #389 prononymous
That’s actually the first thought I had. I find it a quite disturbing concept that a pre-op isn’t worthy of respect but a post-op somehow is.
re: #385 researchok
Sorry. Clearly I was missing some context.
I’m just all pissed off and higgledypiggledy :D I’m calming down with my tasty stout *_*
I’m now at the point where I’ll simply tell Ace: “Hey, the yeti comment was not cool, it screamed ignorant bigot to me, and maybe your wife should meet some of my friends and check out their suicide attempt scars, and then re-evaluate her outlook.” as opposed to blowing up if he were to make the next comment.
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:35:11am |
re: #391 freetoken
Meanwhile, Donald Trump keeps tacking his yacht starboard:
Abortion, marriage views have evolved, Trump says
… but he still might not make it safely into the harbor of hate:
Trump will never have Barry Goldwater’s credibility.
Goldwater’s social policy reversals were sincere, not predicated on opportunism.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:37:18am |
re: #392 WindUpBird
the ultimate goal is to have a person at peace with their self image and their body, IMHO. Whichever route that may take
…….
Check out the nasty comments on HuffPo whenever someone has a tattoo on their face. The hostility whenever someone doesn’t have the conventional standards of beauty, it gets weapons grade ugly.
……
That’s the underlying concept in Nikki Sixx’s new project “This Is Going To Hurt”. He has some mini-documentaries on Hulu:
[Link: www.hulu.com…]
Pt 1:
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:39:50am |
re: #391 freetoken
I feel alone on this board in that I’m not really mad at Trump. Trump is like the vaccine, in some ways. He’s the disease that helps. he’s so cravenly exploitative of the situation that he is close to defeating the GOP’s system. if he gets the nomination, Obama will make him the UberMondale.
The GOP set up the evil game, and then Trump stole their game. He flipped over the chess board. I can’t really get mad about that. it’s as if the GOP left the brand new Aston Martin DB9 of their presidential aspirations running in a bad area of town with the keys in the ignition.
And Trump hopped in and drove off. So I’m not mad at Trump. he’s not even a human being to me, he’s a Machiavellian force of nature. it could have been anyone.
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:40:55am |
Here in the Philippines, there is this unwritten social standard in our macho society that if you’re out, you’re O-U-T and are required to flaunt your newfound outness.
I’m for LGBT rights and all, and I do consider myself “not straight” in the “I’ll fill in my orientation when I settle down with someone” sense, but this requisite stereotyping sickens me.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:41:26am |
re: #395 RogueOne
That’s the underlying concept in Nikki Sixx’s new project “This Is Going To Hurt”. He has some mini-documentaries on Hulu:
[Link: www.hulu.com…]
Pt 1:
[Video]
I have his SixxA.M. project, hahaha
I love me some Nikki Sixx, he’s by far my favorite member of the Crue, he’s the only one I ever had a crush on as a kid, and the only one who I think, still looks cute at age 50 *_*
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Flounder Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:43:35am |
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:43:37am |
re: #397 laZardo
yeah, I dislike the whole binary of you’re either macho or a flamer. Almost none of my gay friends do the stereotypical flame thing. Some have zany costumes! But they’re costumes. Most of them are just nerds who look like they work with computers or teach lit at a college.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:43:50am |
re: #399 Shropshire_Slasher
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
yes.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:45:21am |
re: #398 WindUpBird
I have his SixxA.M. project, hahaha
I love me some Nikki Sixx, he’s by far my favorite member of the Crue, he’s the only one I ever had a crush on as a kid, and the only one who I think, still looks cute at age 50 *_*
I’m straight and I love his stuff enough I might let him sleep with me. If I ever have a child my wife has promised I can name it Nikki.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:46:49am |
re: #399 Shropshire_Slasher
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
How’s this: she’s a bigot if she opens her mouth about it.
Just like I’m a bigot if I open my moth about how black people shouldn’t be in this restaurant.
We all have our private prejudices. We ALL DO.
But when they start running your dick face mouth on a board about it? Or get int he face of someone about it?
Then I’m done with them, just another self-important bigot trying to dehumanize someone who’s already experienced more pain than any self righteous so-con woman could ever dream of.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:47:28am |
re: #402 RogueOne
I’m straight and I love his stuff enough I might let him sleep with me. If I ever have a child my wife has promised I can name it Nikki.
ahahah RAD
I always wanted his skull bass! There’s a specific point where he grins like an idiot in the Wild Side video, it just makes me soooo happy
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:47:32am |
re: #399 Shropshire_Slasher
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
Why doesn’t she want him/her there?
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:47:57am |
re: #399 Shropshire_Slasher
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
Yes
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:48:07am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:48:32am |
re: #407 Obdicut
Why doesn’t she want him/her there?
TG cooties!
like gay cooties in the classroom, but more dangerous
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:49:02am |
re: #140 Bubblehead II
On a lighter note. I just got done adding up the number a minutes of music I have stored on my HD. It came out to 7646 minutes or (if my math is correct) 5.3 days of music without hearing the same same song twice.
/// I need more music.
That it? 21.7 days here. Get buying! //
Good morning all. Today is the most important day of the holidays! Today the kids go back to school!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:49:08am |
My favorite thing is that it’s a women’s bathroom, they have STALLLLLS!
right?
Don’t they have stalls? with doors?
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:49:32am |
re: #410 WindUpBird
I just don’t get what people are scurred of in that situation.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:50:04am |
Syria seals border with Jordan
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
AMMAN – A Jordanian security official says Syria has sealed the border with Jordan and is preventing people from leaving the country.The Jordanian border crossing lies close to the southern Syrian town of Daraa, where government forces were launching a sharp crackdown on protesters Monday. Some of the fiercest protests against the Syrian regime have taken place in Daraa.
….
BEIRUT (AP) — Syrian troops backed by tanks, snipers and knife-wielding security forces stormed the southern city of Daraa early Monday, killing at least five people in a clear escalation of the crackdown on a five-week uprising against President Bashar Assad’s authoritarian regime, witnesses and activists said.The violence in Daraa, where the protest movement kicked off in mid-March, was the most intense in a series of moves to crush dissent in at least two other towns Monday. More than 300 people have been killed across the country since the anti-government demonstrations began more than a month ago.
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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:50:33am |
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researchok Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:50:51am |
re: #399 Shropshire_Slasher
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
“The ‘bathroom thing’ is usually a last gasp straw. If that is a best argument, they are conceding a pretty fair amount of prejudice.
All over the world, the vast majority of people go into the bathroom, do what needs to be done and get out.”
Real world, you know?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:51:13am |
re: #413 Obdicut
I just don’t get what people are scurred of in that situation.
nor do I *_*
it’s like on cue! Shrop comes in and MAKES MY POINT FOR ME AS IF I CONJURED HIM WITH A MAGIC SPELL
it’s all so damn perfect I’m laughing out loud now
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:51:47am |
re: #406 WindUpBird
ahahah RAD
I always wanted his skull bass! There’s a specific point where he grins like an idiot in the Wild Side video, it just makes me sooo happy
Ha! I was at the show where they filmed the video! Market Square arena in Indy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:53:04am |
re: #416 researchok
“The ‘bathroom thing’ is usually a last gasp straw. If that is a best argument, they are conceding a pretty fair amount of prejudice.
All over the world, the vast majority of people go into the bathroom, do what needs to be done and get out.”Real world, you know?
very good comment
It’s like, a bathroom is not a place people should be really concerned with anyone else AT ALL. I don’t go looking at people’s faces, or phsyiques, or anything when I’m in a bathroom.
Who does that? What woman’s like, really looking for that? What’s wrong with them that they do that?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:53:20am |
re: #418 RogueOne
Ha! I was at the show where they filmed the video! Market Square arena in Indy.
are you shitting me?!?!?!?!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:53:49am |
re: #418 RogueOne
Ha! I was at the show where they filmed the video! Market Square arena in Indy.
I grew up with that video imprinted on my brain in jr. high, it’s my favorite hair metal song of all time
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BongCrodny Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:54:53am |
re: #396 WindUpBird
I feel alone on this board in that I’m not really mad at Trump. Trump is like the vaccine, in some ways. He’s the disease that helps. he’s so cravenly exploitative of the situation that he is close to defeating the GOP’s system. if he gets the nomination, Obama will make him the UberMondale.
The GOP set up the evil game, and then Trump stole their game. He flipped over the chess board. I can’t really get mad about that. it’s as if the GOP left the brand new Aston Martin DB9 of their presidential aspirations running in a bad area of town with the keys in the ignition.
And Trump hopped in and drove off. So I’m not mad at Trump. he’s not even a human being to me, he’s a Machiavellian force of nature. it could have been anyone.
Better the devil you know, eh?
I can get in line with that. Trump may have crossed over into Bananaland, but I think he’s still less dangerous than someone like, say, Herman Cain.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:56:14am |
re: #418 RogueOne
HERE!
the best rant about Wild side ever, they cut most of it out, but he’s one of my favorite people talking about Wild Side, which is just genius
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Flounder Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:56:17am |
re: #407 Obdicut
This situation came up at work a while back, I’m not going to pass judgement, I believe it is in the woman’s right to privacy. However, I don’t care who walks thru the mens room door. To get down dinged for asking a question is funny!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:57:08am |
re: #422 BongCrodny
Better the devil you know, eh?
I can get in line with that. Trump may have crossed over into Bananaland, but I think he’s still less dangerous than someone like, say, Herman Cain.
Dennis Kucinich has a better chance of getting the GOP nod than Herman Cain, ahahah
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:57:21am |
re: #424 Shropshire_Slasher
This situation came up at work a while back, I’m not going to pass judgement, I believe it is in the woman’s right to privacy.
I’m not sure I understand. Do you mean the transgendered woman’s right to privacy?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:58:18am |
re: #424 Shropshire_Slasher
This situation came up at work a while back, I’m not going to pass judgement, I believe it is in the woman’s right to privacy. However, I don’t care who walks thru the mens room door. To get down dinged for asking a question is funny!
This is gibberish. This means nothing, and it’s nothing but an attempt to dehumanize people. It assumes that Tg people are somehow a violation of privacy by their very existence.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 4:59:01am |
How to get downdinged for asking a question:
Where’s the birth certificate?
Hurr hurr
Sorry, Shrop, you’re like the golf ball today, you make it too easy
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:00:04am |
I honestly could not have asked for a better illustration
If I were Rogue or Obdicut, I’d be asusming that Windupbird had hacked Shrop’s account :D
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Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:00:47am |
re: #428 Shropshire_Slasher
Anyones privacy
You’re really not making a lot of sense, man.
You asked:
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
I asked why she doesn’t want that person in the restroom.
Can you answer that?
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:00:55am |
re: #420 WindUpBird
are you shitting me?!?!?!?!
Lower level just to the left of the stage. I left with a girl sitting next to me whose name I don’t remember but I do remember she was wearing leopard skin panties.
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Flounder Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:02:04am |
I’ll keep a list on my day to day activities, I’ll get back to you Windupbird on how I should feel, so I can act/feel accodingly.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:07:35am |
re: #433 Shropshire_Slasher
Sorry man I have over a dozen friends who are trans and genderqueer within 3 hours of me. Who have weathered the storms of abuse and nastiness by their fellow man since they were teenagers. usually before.
I have heard the TG bathroom meme come up hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
of times.
You are not original, you are not clever, you are not wise, you are not new or novel. You are just another vessel repeating a talking point. I’ve been hearing it since I was a teenager.
Maybe its the caveman desire to protect women’s honor against evil male Interloper, who is a Deviant. But whatever it is, it’s nonsense.
it’s usually conservatives that bring it up, often older conservatives, and it’s NEVER people with trans friends and acquaitances who bring it up.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:10:39am |
re: #434 WindUpBird
reminds me of my father’s dumb employees who wigged out because they saw two gay guys holding hands. Went all “THERE ARE KIDS AROUND! IT’S NOT APPROPRIATE!”
it’s great when family friends who are nice to you as a kid, that they turn out to just be…that. eyeopening!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:10:43am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:11:31am |
I remain in a good mood, because I have this adorable art gig, and a nice beer
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:14:16am |
re: #411 wlewisiii
That it? 21.7 days here. Get buying! //
Good morning all. Today is the most important day of the holidays! Today the kids go back to school!
Rookie.// According to WMP I have 9432 songs and 599 hours. Almost 25 days.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:18:47am |
Regarding the McDonalds beat down.
The two people who beat that person into seizures are animals and should not be in society.
Period.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:21:49am |
re: #437 WindUpBird
I remain in a good mood, because I have this adorable art gig, and a nice beer
What beer?
Hello everyone, hope your day is spiffy!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:22:37am |
re: #434 WindUpBird
try being a lil’ gender confused in an isolated suburb of Seattle in 1990, nowhere to go, and having to jettison half your friends because you feel like Uncle Tom, sitting quietly when they bitch about the “fags” and how they’d “kick some fem’s ass if they got picked up on” and then trying NOT to tell your parents about it, because you reeeally weren’t sure how they would handle THEIR friends (see, all my child friends wer emy childhood friends because our parents were friends!) being told that their kids were being nasty.
And then in the next breath, they’re all devout church going, yes ma’am, no ma’am, every sunday.
Sorta affects your politics, it does. You start hanging with the freaks and geeks because they’re the only people you can trust. even the dirtbags cutting class and dealing weed behind the bleachers. They were more my people, they were marginalized too. They didn’t hate. They liked art, and music, and they were right. Straight As and crossing your ts., and looking away when people were hateful, that was the lie. The love of art and music? That’s the real wisdom.
Come to think of it, I knew a lot of (really nice) criminals for a kid who came from some money. I knew a lot of Judd-Nelsons-from-Breakfast-Club. right down to the abusive dads :(
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:22:52am |
re: #432 RogueOne
Lower level just to the left of the stage. I left with a girl sitting next to me whose name I don’t remember but I do remember she was wearing leopard skin panties.
You have the best stories.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:24:44am |
re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Regarding the McDonalds beat down.
The two people who beat that person into seizures are animals and should not be in society.
Period.
the 18 year old is I believe being charged with a hate crime, and there’s video evidence that is clear as day, so at least there’s that
the other one is 14. 14! At 14 I was hiding in my room learning about my Atari ST and playing drum rudiments. Sporting a VERY fashionable mullet
No parental involvement at all, probably. :(
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:24:53am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:25:08am |
re: #441 iceweasel
What beer?
Hello everyone, hope your day is spiffy!
it’s a Widmer KGB Imperial stout!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:25:32am |
I should get msyelf a webcam, the visual aids would be a riot
LOOK AT MY MESS OH GOD
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:27:10am |
re: #443 iceweasel
You have the best stories.
Amazing the details the mind decides to remember, huh? In my defense she showed me the panties before she told me her name. At their height in the late 80’s and 90’s if you didn’t get laid at a Crue concert, you weren’t trying. That tour was so much fun I saw it 4 times.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:27:27am |
re: #442 WindUpBird
I remember a discussion with my recently departed sainted mother.
We were talking about homosexuality as a choice.
She said, “Who would choose a lifetime of being a social pariah? One of these days people who are gay will not have to hide, and even then, a person will not choose to be gay.”
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:27:55am |
re: #448 RogueOne
Amazing the details the mind decides to remember, huh? In my defense she showed me the panties before she told me her name. At their height in the late 80’s and 90’s if you didn’t get laid at a Crue concert, you weren’t trying. That tour was so much fun I saw it 4 times.
this is as bad as when NJD was talking about seeing Floyd in their prime ;-)
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:28:04am |
re: #444 WindUpBird
the 18 year old is I believe being charged with a hate crime, and there’s video evidence that is clear as day, so at least there’s that
the other one is 14. 14! At 14 I was hiding in my room learning about my Atari ST and playing drum rudiments. Sporting a VERY fashionable mullet
No parental involvement at all, probably. :(
That’s what I was wondering, what does that 14yr old kids folks think about it?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:29:21am |
re: #451 RogueOne
That’s what I was wondering, what does that 14yr old kids folks think about it?
Wondering where today’s meth is going to come from.
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:29:43am |
At 14 I made fun of a Pakistani kid in my international school the day after 9/11.
First attempt at bullying, and quickly regretted it. Never should a tiny wimp question his place in the order.
There, I said it.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:34:09am |
So, totally OT, I’m on some spam mailing list that sends me stuff about deals in nyc— usually it was about spa experiences and getting your hair highlighted. My new location means they send me stuff about deals in scotland. Today’s deal? Falconry lesson for only 25 GBP.
CULTURE SHOCK OVERLOAD
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:34:57am |
re: #453 laZardo
At 14 I made fun of a Pakistani kid in my international school the day after 9/11.
First attempt at bullying, and quickly regretted it. Never should a tiny wimp question his place in the order.
There, I said it.
We’ve all been jerks, we’ve all been bad people, it happens, I have plenty of stuff I wish I could reverse time and take back
the difference is, we feel bad about it, and change.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:35:34am |
re: #443 iceweasel
You have the best stories.
I made very specific choices from ages 17-25 about my life based, almost entirely on, how much fun could I have. They weren’t the best choices but I got to travel all over the planet and meet a ton of people, most of whom drank entirely too much.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:37:20am |
re: #456 RogueOne
I made very specific choices from ages 17-25 about my life based, almost entirely on, how much fun could I have. They weren’t the best choices but I got to travel all over the planet and meet a ton of people, most of whom drank entirely too much.
All I know is if you ever make it over here we’re buying you a pint. :-)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:38:04am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:39:24am |
re: #456 RogueOne
I did the backpacking thing across Europe when I was in my 20s, but that was my biggest adventure of my 20’s, other than that I was basically just in my studio room trying to figure out how the hell to do art for a living :D I like my adventure in finite and compartmentalized little bites
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:39:24am |
re: #455 WindUpBird
We’ve all been jerks, we’ve all been bad people, it happens, I have plenty of stuff I wish I could reverse time and take back
the difference is, we feel bad about it, and change.
Seeing the video, let’s just say there are some things that if I could change, I would not be afraid to go to jail for.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:40:41am |
re: #462 laZardo
Seeing the video, let’s just say there are some things that if I could change, I would not be afraid to go to jail for.
I would say a lot of my badness leans on the side of endangering and reckless.
(don’t give your kid a muscle car, parents. because he’ll use it)
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:44:14am |
re: #464 WindUpBird
Least you were one of those Seattle Rebels. I went to the type of elite school whose students defined social norms. And you had to keep your mouth shut if you ever wanted to get to a good college abroad instead of one of the nursing-degree mills here.
Like I said, if I had to do those things I endured in school differently, I wouldn’t mind going to jail at all.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:48:03am |
re: #465 laZardo
I have heard STORIES of friends who attended elite schools, the pressure sounds unreal
Looking back on it, I had about the best public education possible, magnet school with funding, with a genius computer science department and a culture of creativity
Hell, they let me put on MY OWN METAL CONCERT my senior year. That was my independent project. My band, and two other bands who were friends of mine.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:48:17am |
re: #460 WindUpBird
I did the backpacking thing across Europe when I was in my 20s, but that was my biggest adventure of my 20’s, other than that I was basically just in my studio room trying to figure out how the hell to do art for a living :D I like my adventure in finite and compartmentalized little bites
At least you took the opportunity to travel. I have HS friends who never left the county.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:50:48am |
re: #466 WindUpBird
Hell, they let me put on MY OWN METAL CONCERT my senior year. That was my independent project. My band, and two other bands who were friends of mine.
Wow! My school encouraged me to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:51:46am |
re: #467 RogueOne
At least you took the opportunity to travel. I have HS friends who never left the county.
I’ve been to Europe twice, it’s awesome *_* Belgium Switzerland, Amsterdam, Germany, England, France. I am not the person who wants to constantly travel, but every few years I want some adventure. Though right now any desire to go to Europe again is being eclipsed by my increasingly unhinged and ambitious Burning Man plans. That place feels like I’ve travelled to Mars
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:52:34am |
re: #470 WindUpBird
I’ve been to Europe twice, it’s awesome *_* Belgium Switzerland, Amsterdam, Germany, England, France. I am not the person who wants to constantly travel, but every few years I want some adventure. Though right now any desire to go to Europe again is being eclipsed by my increasingly unhinged and ambitious Burning Man plans. That place feels like I’ve travelled to Mars
I loved your pages on Burning Man— if you go again please do some again! More photos too!
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:52:50am |
re: #466 WindUpBird
I have heard STORIES of friends who attended elite schools, the pressure sounds unreal
Looking back on it, I had about the best public education possible, magnet school with funding, with a genius computer science department and a culture of creativity
Hell, they let me put on MY OWN METAL CONCERT my senior year. That was my independent project. My band, and two other bands who were friends of mine.
I went to HS in the middle of a cornfield. I was surrounded by farm kids and I didn’t quite get it. It was like the movie Footloose but they danced, badly, to country music while wearing seed brand and john deere caps.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:53:12am |
re: #468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wow! My school encouraged me to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
You went to Catholic school too?? /
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:53:49am |
re: #468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wow! My school encouraged me to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
I was as surprised as anyone when i proposed it and they said yes
I did make a strong case! I was full on marketing schmooze, I brought my grades, I brought a whole plan I laid out on a DTP program, i had done the research on how to hire off duty police for security. I think i might have just overwhelmed them with my zany ambition. I couldn’t believe they agreed to it.
But really, I just wanted to be the guy going “THIS IS OUR QUEENSRYCHE COVER, LAST SONG, GOOD NIGHT”
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:54:01am |
re: #470 WindUpBird
Smells like hippies.
/
(There was a great “Malcolm in the Middle” episode about Burning Man.)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 5:55:58am |
re: #472 RogueOne
I went to HS in the middle of a cornfield. I was surrounded by farm kids and I didn’t quite get it. It was like the movie Footloose but they danced, badly, to country music while wearing seed brand and john deere caps.
I was in high school right as Nirvana became big. In a suburb of Seattle. being in a metal or grunge band was the Thing We All Did. At any give time, I think I knew of a dozen high school bands in the Kent area, betwewn our three schools. At any given time, I was in two or three.
Some of my internet friends had your experience, growing up in verrry rural areas. They all just hid and were computer kids. Nothing else to do.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:01:31am |
I went to an high school that had a race riot in my sophomore year. Closed down the school for three days.
I was a really smart kid, with a peculiar lack of work ethic and no organizational skills. I was in the percentile that made the top 90% possible.
I drove teachers bonkers.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:01:53am |
re: #475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Smells like hippies.
/(There was a great “Malcolm in the Middle” episode about Burning Man.)
I MUST SEE IT!
Smell at Burning Man is overwhelmingly the playa dust. That alkaline dust smell. it overpowers everything, even in the sweatiest, largest dance camps. Just that playa dust
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:06:21am |
re: #476 WindUpBird
Or they did it to find refuge and solace. Or catharsis.
I distinctly remember the day I got kicked out of the elite school was the day I played Vice City to 100% completion (something that requires more than the “mind-altering” killing sprees, mind.)
‘Course, today I’m just content with taking the pills and looking at old coins.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:06:40am |
re: #476 WindUpBird
I’m old. PC’s were Commodore 64’s and no cable in the boonies. It wasn’t so bad when I got old enough to drive. I have 2 older cousins in Cincy that got me off to a good start. I have one cousin who’s gay and was working as a male stripper. He hadn’t come out to his parents, everyone else knew, so he’d bring home female co-workers (strippers) as dates to family functions, sunday dinners. My mom had married a preacher and my uncle was a deacon so…fun stuff. He was getting me into clubs at 16, good times.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:06:46am |
One of our assignments in my catholic high school was to rewrite one of the gospels from the point of view of one of the disciples.
Naturally I picked Judas. It meant I had fewer events to cover.
that went over well. /
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:08:00am |
re: #478 WindUpBird
I MUST SEE IT!
Smell at Burning Man is overwhelmingly the playa dust. That alkaline dust smell. it overpowers everything, even in the sweatiest, largest dance camps. Just that playa dust
That’s okay, I hate the game.
and i just lost it too
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:08:10am |
re: #481 iceweasel
One of our assignments in my catholic high school was to rewrite one of the gospels from the point of view of one of the disciples.
Naturally I picked Judas. It meant I had fewer events to cover.
that went over well. /
Hahaha! That’s good thinkin’ !
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:09:07am |
re: #481 iceweasel
One of our assignments in my catholic high school was to rewrite one of the gospels from the point of view of one of the disciples.
Naturally I picked Judas. It meant I had fewer events to cover.
that went over well. /
Well duh, that’s plagiarism. ;)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:09:36am |
re: #477 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
RACE RIOT! My school was lily white. There were way more asians and people of philipino descent than there were black kids.
You’re like my favorite radio hosts. Both of whom are brilliant and practically failed out of school, confounded their teachers
I had a good work ethic because I figured out early on that my parents were INTENSELY FOCUSED ON ME DOING WELL, and it made my life way easier if I did well. Then they’d be more likely to agree when I proposed things like, say, buying a fancy computer with their help because I totally wanted to play Dungeon Master and Sundog and kick the ass of my friends with Macs and hang out on hacker BBSes in the middle of the night for educational reasons. ^_^
if As were the path to the mighty Atari ST, that was the easiest decision I could ever make. School was just another means to an end. I knew I’d never use the math skills. But I knew that I could talk them into buying me computer gear and art supplies and expensive music hardware if I came home with straight As and busted ass in advanced math.
To this day, Sundog has no equal:
Came on one floppy disc. Managed to portray a freaking galaxy procedurally. Still totally unique. No other game like it
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:11:41am |
re: #480 RogueOne
I’m old. PC’s were Commodore 64’s and no cable in the boonies. It wasn’t so bad when I got old enough to drive. I have 2 older cousins in Cincy that got me off to a good start. I have one cousin who’s gay and was working as a male stripper. He hadn’t come out to his parents, everyone else knew, so he’d bring home female co-workers (strippers) as dates to family functions, sunday dinners. My mom had married a preacher and my uncle was a deacon so…fun stuff. He was getting me into clubs at 16, good times.
dude! My friends had c64s! I’d go over to their houses to play Impossible Mission and PSI5 Trading Company and Police Quest. before the ST, I had a rinky dink Atarai that was a lackluster competitor to the C64.
also, AWESOME on the strippers. :D I was pretty sheltered until got into college. Suburban stoner dirtbags were as about as adventurous as I got *_*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:12:14am |
re: #482 laZardo
playa is pronounced ” pli-ya” btw :D
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:13:16am |
re: #478 WindUpBird
The name of the episode? Burning Man…
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:14:17am |
re: #487 WindUpBird
He was a good looking man, still takes great care of himself. I ask him all the time about getting back in the business so he can introduce me to more strippers but he’s not going for it. He’s become extremely unhelpful in his old age.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:14:35am |
re: #479 laZardo
Or they did it to find refuge and solace. Or catharsis.
I distinctly remember the day I got kicked out of the elite school was the day I played Vice City to 100% completion (something that requires more than the “mind-altering” killing sprees, mind.)
‘Course, today I’m just content with taking the pills and looking at old coins.
You youngun! I played Vice City after moving here to PDX. My partner and about four of our friends were home, LAUGHING LIKE HYENAS. I came home from work and was like what’s all this?!?!?! They were all crowded around our shitty tube TV with a 24 pack of Icehouse, loaded, playing Vice City, stars up to 6, the air force and the marines chasing my partner around in his Lamborghini. We must have played that game 30 hours straight.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:14:59am |
re: #490 RogueOne
He was a good looking man, still takes great care of himself. I ask him all the time about getting back in the business so he can introduce me to more strippers but he’s not going for it. He’s become extremely unhelpful in his old age.
ahahahahahahahahahahhaa
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:15:35am |
re: #490 RogueOne
you’re literally costing me money, this is too funny, I can’t concentrate on work, hahaha
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:20:16am |
re: #491 WindUpBird
You youngun! I played Vice City after moving here to PDX. My partner and about four of our friends were home, LAUGHING LIKE HYENAS. I came home from work and was like what’s all this?!?!?! They were all crowded around our shitty tube TV with a 24 pack of Icehouse, loaded, playing Vice City, stars up to 6, the air force and the marines chasing my partner around in his Lamborghini. We must have played that game 30 hours straight.
My first real vidya system was the SNES. :P And even then the first system I really played was the PSX, because I tended to play outside more back when I had self-esteem and before my parents stopped letting me go to other people’s houses because I sometimes broke their stuff.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:20:36am |
favorite video game memory of all time. We got an Atari 5200 for christmas. right at release. it was the New Mysterious Amazing Thing. I was like, I dunno 7 or 8. A bunch of games. I was like YAY! Then I went to a friends house for their christmas dinner. didn’t even have time to set the rig up. Came home that night, my uncle and my dad have a fucking legal pad out, taking notes, arguing with each other about how to dock a starship. Staring at the TV, wires and game crap everywhere, foam and boxes and yow.
because they were playing Star Raiders (which was MINE, that *I* had got for christmas) probably the most bafflingly complicated game ever made for a mainstream game console at the time. Basically a computer game of crazy complexity.
I wish my uncle was still sane and not a psycho dick, he was so much fun
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:21:02am |
WUB? Just making sure you saw my link to the Burning Man episode.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:21:17am |
re: #494 laZardo
My first real vidya system was the SNES. :P And even then the first system I really played was the PSX, because I tended to play outside more back when I had self-esteem and before my parents stopped letting me go to other people’s houses because I sometimes broke their stuff.
YOUNG
SO YOUNG, holy hell
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:21:23am |
re: #496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
WUB? Just making sure you saw my link to the Burning Man episode.
oh!
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:21:51am |
re: #493 WindUpBird
you’re literally costing me money, this is too funny, I can’t concentrate on work, hahaha
I got some work done this weekend so I have nothing to do today but housework, which can wait. My sunday tradition got sidetracked due to family day so I’m making up for it now.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:21:56am |
re: #496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
bookmarked! I can’t watch now, i still gotta work *_*
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:26:27am |
re: #497 WindUpBird
YOUNG
SO YOUNG, holy hell
I KNOW RIGHT
Unfortunately, I’m not quite the Youngest Active Lizard here anymoar. I miss my tiara ;_;
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:26:38am |
re: #494 laZardo
I spent probably 150 hours playing this game, played it through a dozen times, explored every single thing about it
It must look like an abacus to you :D
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:30:37am |
Hey all!
it’s raining again in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland.
How are you?
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:31:39am |
re: #503 ggt
Hey all!
it’s raining again in the Very Far Western Parts of Chicagoland.
How are you?
As pleased as an easily pleased thing with a special reason to be pleased.
How are you? Good to see you!
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:33:48am |
re: #506 iceweasel
Whee! Triply pleased. How goes it, Comrade?
SOS. It comes and it goes. I’m going to leave the details for emails. I assume you’re doing OK and the meatloaf was good?
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:35:12am |
Police beating of Las Vegas man caught on tape
[Link: www.lvrj.com…]
When Mitchell Crooks checked out of the county jail last month and checked into a Las Vegas hospital, the 36-year-old videographer knew he had a fight on his hands.His face was bloodied and bruised. His $3,500 camera had been impounded by police, and he faced criminal charges for battery on a police officer.
One month later, things have changed for Crooks.
The Clark County district attorney’s office has dropped all charges, and Crooks has retained an attorney of his own. The Metropolitan Police Department has opened an internal investigation into the Las Vegas police officer, Derek Colling, who Crooks says falsely arrested and beat him for filming police.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:35:48am |
re: #507 Gus 802
SOS. It comes and it goes. I’m going to leave the details for emails. I assume you’re doing OK and the meatloaf was good?
Yep, I’ll leave details for email too. The meatloaf was good, which is a blessing as we’ll be eating it for a couple of days.
this is the recipe if people are interested. I leave out the bacon though.
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:35:49am |
LOL
Afghanistan: Hundreds escape from Kandahar prison
The BBC’s Quentin Sommerville said prisoners did not break out but in fact people outside broke into the jail.
More than 470 inmates at a prison in southern Afghanistan have escaped through a tunnel hundreds of metres long and dug from outside the jail.
Officials in the city of Kandahar said many of those who escaped from Sarposa jail were Taliban insurgents…
Whatever.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:35:52am |
re: #485 WindUpBird
Yep. A real live “Let’s find white kids and beat the shit out them” thing. Probably changed my entire life.
It happened early in my first year of High School.
I spent the rest of my time there afraid and hiding.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:36:07am |
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:38:11am |
re: #511 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That’s terrible! I’m so sorry that happened to you.
re: #512 ggt
So, you are happy? Are you going to share why?
I’m good, not great, but good.
Just the usual happiness, i.e. Jimmah and being together. He had to work yesterday though. But we all get a holiday for the royal wedding. Craziness. I’m glad you’re doing good!
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:41:00am |
The Puppy is in “Let’s Play, Wanna Play?, ok, Let’s Play” Mode.
He has been up since 4:30. He is good at waking us up when he as to go out side now, so I get up. He took a 30 minute nap and here we are.
Now, he is chewing on the baby gate, trying to get to me.
There is another dog trapped in the kitchen with him and lots of rawhides, but NOOOOOOOOOO, he wants me.
I think he’ll fall alseep if I just ignore him. He needs a real nap. So do I.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:42:49am |
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:44:23am |
re: #517 ggt
All this talk of computer games. I feel so boring. I play Scrabble and Words with Friends.
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:44:39am |
re: #108 SpaceJesus
anyone who even remotely cares about this british wedding thing needs to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror then try as hard as possible to flush themselves down the toilet
: P ”””””””””’!
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:46:16am |
re: #518 Varek Raith
I do remember Mario and Donkey Kong. We’d play in arcade rooms they’d have in hotels. Sometimes they’d have these funny tables in restaurants two people could sit and play.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:47:03am |
Drill baby drill won’t lower gas prices
I’m shocked I tells ya.
/
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:47:44am |
re: #517 ggt
All this talk of computer games. I feel so boring. I play Scrabble and Words with Friends.
That sounds like me, too, except instead of Words with Friends, I have a game called “Moxie” on my phone, a letter game, very strange. In order to make points, you have do to things that make you LOSE points. Very hard to do well.
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:48:59am |
re: #516 ggt
My wife would get up at 430ish with our dog when he was a pup and it turned into the dogs morning habit . They get her up around 430 and go back to sleep together on the couch.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:50:18am |
I am so frikking tired of hearing about the price of gas.
I remember in the 70’s my parents driving around looking a gas station signs and then driving back to the place with the cheapest gas. .74 cents to .72 cents.
Every Spring the price goes up, Congress holds hearings, MSM pundits point blame.
In the end, the price of gas goes up. Every year, without fail. The metrics that go into making the per gallon price are so complex, I can’t begin to fathom the market forces at play.
American’s like to drive. I think Occam’s Razor applies: Supply and Demand.
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:50:24am |
re: #521 Varek Raith
Drill baby drill won’t lower gas prices
I’m shocked I tells ya.
/
Yep. Brent crude prices as traded on the commodities market would still remain as the “benchmark”. It’s not rocket science.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:51:54am |
re: #525 Gus 802
Yep. Brent crude prices as traded on the commodities market would still remain as the “benchmark”. It’s not rocket science.
Rocket science + oil = BOOOMMMM!
/Insomnia makes me silly.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:52:47am |
re: #523 RogueOne
My wife would get up at 430ish with our dog when he was a pup and it turned into the dogs morning habit . They get her up around 430 and go back to sleep together on the couch.
Well, at this point, his bladder control is limited. So, I accommodate. I’m just happy he is able to recognize when he has to go. He has run of the kitchen, except at night. During the day he still barks his head-off at the door when he has to go. I am pleased. So getting up in the wee hours is paying off.
I won’t accommodate when I know he can hold it for more than 4 hours.
he’ll learn. They always do.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:52:52am |
re: #526 Varek Raith
Rocket science + oil = BOOOMMM!
/Insomnia makes me silly.
Have you tried melatonin? Works pretty well for me and Jimmah.
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:53:12am |
re: #526 Varek Raith
Rocket science + oil = BOOOMMM!
/Insomnia makes me silly.
The humans will talk. And talk. And talk. And talk. That’s all we do these days. Talk a lot. Have another stupid world summit!
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:53:55am |
re: #528 iceweasel
Have you tried melatonin? Works pretty well for me and Jimmah.
Supossed to be a good for brain health too. There is research about it’s anti-inflammatory affects.
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:53:56am |
re: #528 iceweasel
Have you tried melatonin? Works pretty well for me and Jimmah.
In this case it’s related to my sinus infection.
Though, I’ll keep that in mind.
:)
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:54:33am |
6 Arrested At Escondido Sobriety Checkpoint
[Link: www.10news.com…]
One driver was arrested on suspicion of drunken driving, police said. A passenger in a vehicle was arrested on suspicion of possessing a controlled substance and being drunk in public.Four drivers were determined to be in the country illegally, police said. Three had previous criminal arrests and were turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement. One was given a citation.
Twenty-four citations were issued overnight and 1716 vehicles passed through the checkpoint, which was held at Valley Parkway and Juniper Street.
1716 vehicles go through a sobriety checkpoint and exactly 1 driver was arrested for drunk driving.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:54:43am |
re: #531 Varek Raith
In this case it’s related to my sinus infection.
Though, I’ll keep that in mind.
:)
NETI POT … .NETI POT … NETI POT
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:54:57am |
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darthstar Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:55:18am |
re: #56 ProLifeLiberal
Off topic, but I found this on Flickr. The caption is amazing:
Ding Dong.
I put one of those on my bicycle, to get roller-bladers out of the way when I’m on the bike trail.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:55:20am |
re: #532 RogueOne
6 Arrested At Escondido Sobriety Checkpoint
[Link: www.10news.com…]1716 vehicles go through a sobriety checkpoint and exactly 1 driver was arrested for drunk driving.
Did they treat it as if it was an epidemic?
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:55:26am |
Then I’ll go out to my nearest busy collector street and see the humans driving to the same general location. One person in one car. Yep. They’re all just scrambling to form car pools!
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William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:56:10am |
re: #495 WindUpBird
favorite video game memory of all time. We got an Atari 5200 for christmas. right at release. it was the New Mysterious Amazing Thing. I was like, I dunno 7 or 8. A bunch of games. I was like YAY! Then I went to a friends house for their christmas dinner. didn’t even have time to set the rig up. Came home that night, my uncle and my dad have a fucking legal pad out, taking notes, arguing with each other about how to dock a starship. Staring at the TV, wires and game crap everywhere, foam and boxes and yow.
because they were playing Star Raiders (which was MINE, that *I* had got for christmas) probably the most bafflingly complicated game ever made for a mainstream game console at the time. Basically a computer game of crazy complexity.
I wish my uncle was still sane and not a psycho dick, he was so much fun
STAR RAIDERS!!! Yeah that game rocked! Someone needs to port that sucker to OS X ;D
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:57:05am |
And when they want to build light rail lines they turn it into yet another metropolitan yuppie nightmare that costs 10s of millions per mile for the track alone. Newsflash! We don’t need imported Italian tile for train stations.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:58:16am |
re: #539 Gus 802
And when they want to build light rail lines they turn it into yet another metropolitan yuppie nightmare that costs 10s of millions per mile for the track alone. Newsflash! We don’t need imported Italian tile for train stations.
Terrazzo works best! IMHO
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:58:18am |
re: #536 ggt
Did they treat it as if it was an epidemic?
It looks like it. If you’re only catching one at a time I question the need to stop 1716 people. I noticed most of the arrests were for nothing related to a driving offense.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:58:57am |
re: #541 RogueOne
It looks like it. If you’re only catching one at a time I question the need to stop 1716 people. I noticed most of the arrests were for nothing related to a driving offense.
Probably the reason behind the blockade in the first place… .
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darthstar Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:59:07am |
re: #532 RogueOne
6 Arrested At Escondido Sobriety Checkpoint
[Link: www.10news.com…]1716 vehicles go through a sobriety checkpoint and exactly 1 driver was arrested for drunk driving.
I learned to avoid sobriety checkpoints when I was in college. Never encountered one until years later, and I was mostly sober at the time…
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:59:09am |
re: #509 iceweasel
Yep, I’ll leave details for email too. The meatloaf was good, which is a blessing as we’ll be eating it for a couple of days.
this is the recipe if people are interested. I leave out the bacon though.
PUT THE BACON BAAAAACK
I had a bacon wrapped fillet this evening (well, yesterday for you guys) a friend of mine’s moving to the bay, so we did the BIG DINNER
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:59:45am |
re: #539 Gus 802
the only fancy shit our light rail has is screens to tell you when the train comes. Oh, and bike racks!
Concrete is JUST FINE
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 6:59:50am |
re: #540 ggt
Terrazzo works best! IMHO
Textured concrete. Add some dye into it if you want some color. Boom! Done. Next! Build cheap nondescript shelters if any at all. A lot of trolley “station” in Europe are just raised curbs.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:00:34am |
re: #546 Gus 802
Textured concrete. Add some dye into it if you want some color. Boom! Done. Next! Build cheap nondescript shelters if any at all. A lot of trolley “station” in Europe are just raised curbs.
Concrete is very cool. Skilled workers can make it look and feel like just about anything.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:00:35am |
re: #543 darthstar
I learned to avoid sobriety checkpoints when I was in college. Never encountered one until years later, and I was mostly sober at the time…
I’ve never SEEN a checkpoint, let alone had to avoid one
are they a CA thing only? I think oregon is just too cowtown. Portland is our largest anything
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:00:45am |
re: #546 Gus 802
Textured concrete. Add some dye into it if you want some color. Boom! Done. Next! Build cheap nondescript shelters if any at all. A lot of trolley “station” in Europe are just raised curbs.
Needs spikes.
And skulls.
And fire.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:01:01am |
re: #546 Gus 802
Textured concrete. Add some dye into it if you want some color. Boom! Done. Next! Build cheap nondescript shelters if any at all. A lot of trolley “station” in Europe are just raised curbs.
just make the entire station out of recycled bike parts and chinese newspapers
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:01:11am |
re: #549 Varek Raith
Needs spikes.
And skulls.
And fire.
How much is that going to cost?
$500,000?
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:01:16am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:01:35am |
re: #552 WindUpBird
My punk band’s first album will be called Recycle Your Skulls
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:01:55am |
re: #550 WindUpBird
just make the entire station out of recycled bike parts and chinese newspapers
Paper mache “art”. Let the local school children make it for free.
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:02:27am |
re: #549 Varek Raith
Needs spikes.
And skulls.
And fire.
I knew who had written this before I even checked the nic. ;)
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:02:32am |
re: #554 Gus 802
Paper mache “art”. Let the local school children make it for free.
Hang origami cranes from the ceiling …
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:03:26am |
re: #556 ggt
Hang origami cranes from the ceiling …
That drop bombs.
And spikes.
And skulls.
And fire.
:)
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:03:36am |
My favorite is when they spend millions and millions on some station and leave out a clock or two. How can you have a fecking rail station without a clock?
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RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:03:52am |
re: #548 WindUpBird
I’ve never SEEN a checkpoint, let alone had to avoid one
are they a CA thing only? I think oregon is just too cowtown. Portland is our largest anything
Indy uses them all the time. They used to do drug checkpoints but the USSC tossed those out. Some states still do the trick of leaving signs on the interstate that say “drug checkpoint ahead” and then watch to see which idiots throw stuff out of their cars.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:04:29am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:04:47am |
re: #554 Gus 802
Paper mache “art”. Let the local school children make it for free.
now I’m imagining kids carrying giant blocks like they’re building the Sphinx
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:05:28am |
re: #562 WindUpBird
now I’m imagining kids carrying giant blocks like they’re building the Sphinx
For a twist we’ll have them sing the “Song of the Volga Boatmen”.
/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:05:54am |
re: #560 RogueOne
Indy uses them all the time. They used to do drug checkpoints but the USSC tossed those out. Some states still do the trick of leaving signs on the interstate that say “drug checkpoint ahead” and then watch to see which idiots throw stuff out of their cars.
ahahahahahaha genius
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laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:06:05am |
re: #539 Gus 802
And when they want to build light rail lines they turn it into yet another metropolitan yuppie nightmare that costs 10s of millions per mile for the track alone. Newsflash! We don’t need imported Italian tile for train stations.
Just build Bus-Rail-Transit thingies. Worked for Bogota. :P
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:06:06am |
re: #386 RogueOne
Scrolling back through yesterdays threads and it looks like I missed all kinds of fun. I left yesterday mornings thread just before shit hit the fan. My timing sucks.
Yesterday’s morning thread, man.
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:06:07am |
No wait! Maybe not. Next thing you know they’ll be singing “The Internationale” and stop working.
//
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Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:06:22am |
My city’s train station ain’t too shabby.
Built in 1914.
[Link: www.vre.org…]
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:07:10am |
re: #567 Gus 802
No wait! Maybe not. Next thing you know they’ll be singing “The Internationale” and stop working.
//
Commie! /
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:07:16am |
re: #538 wlewisiii
STAR RAIDERS!!! Yeah that game rocked! Someone needs to port that sucker to OS X ;D
BLESS YOU A MILLION TIMES
My boss for one of my larger projects, he’s sorta a 45 year old me, he has great memories of dropping acid and playing star raiders for 24 hours straight as a kid
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:07:44am |
re: #568 Varek Raith
My city’s train station ain’t too shabby.
Built in 1914.
[Link: www.vre.org…]
Cute. But we don’t need one of those every mile for an LRT line. But that’s how these dopes think.
| 572 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:07:46am |
re: #538 wlewisiii
STAR RAIDERS!!! Yeah that game rocked! Someone needs to port that sucker to OS X ;D
though the OS X gotta have some atari emus, right? The 8-bit chipset is simple as shit to emulate
| 573 |
RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:07:48am |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:08:33am |
re: #571 Gus 802
Cute. But we don’t need one of those every mile for an LRT line. But that’s how these dopes think.
like they’re trying to sell the idea of light rail by making everything some starbucks white privilege kiosk, hahaha
IT SELLS ITSELF, especially when gas goes up
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:09:29am |
re: #574 WindUpBird
like they’re trying to sell the idea of light rail by making everything some starbucks white privilege kiosk, hahaha
IT SELLS ITSELF, especially when gas goes up
Exactly. It not a real estate investment. We’re not looking to raise property values. All you want is a stop. Like I said before: yuppies.
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:11:09am |
Gets even worse when they start hiring these pretentious international architects. Those are great when you want cost overruns and leaky roofs. :)
| 577 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:11:23am |
re: #575 Gus 802
Exactly. It not a real estate investment. We’re not looking to raise property values. All you want is a stop. Like I said before: yuppies.
There will always be those who fantasise imaginary black kid beatdowns on public transport. Exhibit A: Dan Riehl. lol.
| 578 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:11:23am |
re: #575 Gus 802
Exactly. It not a real estate investment. We’re not looking to raise property values. All you want is a stop. Like I said before: yuppies.
Ah, yuppies.
They tried to get the local speedway and airport shutdown because, wait for it, they’re loud.
They knew that shit was there before they moved in.
Idiots.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:11:29am |
re: #575 Gus 802
Exactly. It not a real estate investment. We’re not looking to raise property values. All you want is a stop. Like I said before: yuppies.
well property values raise around train stations, Portland guides development by where they put light rail
that weird antipathy people have against trains, it’s like they just love sitting in traffic, paying a quadzillion dollars for gas, insurane, maintenance, everything
I love cars, but man, light rail is the future, and that’s just all there is to it. Our obsession with the car goes off a cliff when gas prices hit a point
| 580 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:11:57am |
re: #576 Gus 802
Gets even worse when they start hiring these pretentious international architects. Those are great when you want cost overruns and leaky roofs. :)
for a TRAIN STATION
Do they hire architects when they put in a bench downtown? :D
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Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:12:39am |
re: #347 WindUpBird
Sooo that Aceofwhat guy, he’s a pile of shit I never have to think about again
Man, I’m ashamed to think I sorta liked that guy
Oh jeez. Man, here I am, coming in a bit late to the party (You people and your crazy, non-East Coast hours), but where I have something I feel I want to contribute.
WUB, I very much appreciate and agree with your strong support of the LGBTQIetc. community and the people that make up said community. I also understand that the frustration and anger you’re displaying here is born of years of seeing and experiencing the bigotry and mistreatment that those of us falling into any of those categories face. And yes, the bathroom issue is something that is often smoke and mirrors to distract from the real issues and to justify discrimination.
That being said, I think that in this kind of case you may want to take a step back and take a few deep breaths. I strongly disagree with the position of Aceofwhat and his wife. I don’t like the comment from the wife (Although it was, as Obdicut said, using Yeti to refer to men in general). However, it at least seemed to me that Aceofwhat was honestly attempting to come to an understanding of things and was willing to entertain the possibility that his stance might be wrong.
To me, there’s a very big difference between discrimination due to someone being ignorant or having just never thought carefully about something and discrimination caused by outright bigotry and hatred (Although sometimes the latter can also come from ignorance). The former group are the people that need to be reached if TG support and acceptance is ever really going to get anywhere. Most people have had little or no interaction with those in the TG spectrum (Well, at least as far as they know). Even worse, TG people have often had rather negative portrayals in popular media, further damaging the abstract view people probably default to. I think, however, that many of the people in this position would become much less hostile if they were better informed (And if they had more positive examples). As such, I tend to favor trying to engage people on the issue that seem willing listen, since even getting them to reevaluate their views is often a step in the right direction.
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:13:12am |
re: #526 Varek Raith
Rocket science + oil = BOOOMMM!
/Insomnia makes me silly.
You know what works well ~ laying down and thinking “breathe in, breathe out” with each breathe. Don’t let your mind wander. It seemed like a cliche to me. but it worked.
| 583 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:13:49am |
re: #580 WindUpBird
for a TRAIN STATION
Do they hire architects when they put in a bench downtown? :D
A bench! You mean an off the shelf concrete and wood bench that you can just bolt down or a bench/lighting fixture/talking art installation and informational traniit kiosk made out of stainless steel and that wobbles when you sit down on it?
//
| 585 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:14:48am |
Puppy has learned to play the “in/out” game. And, it’s raining.
But, I did find $6 in the laundry!
| 586 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:14:50am |
We can’t use an ordinary bench! This bench has to talk! It has to be a “Smart Bench”. The iBench!
//I laugh but that’s how it is today.
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FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:16:20am |
re: #568 Varek Raith
My city’s train station ain’t too shabby.
Built in 1914.
[Link: www.vre.org…]
Chicago has the koolest! Although Cincinnati’s is a very nice example of Art Deco Architecture.
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:17:46am |
We’ve found a way to make benches out of imported Japanese seaweed! I saw an article about it in ArtForum. Our other alternative is to make our benches from indigenous Colombian bat poop which is being studied at MIT.
//Olmmm.
//
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iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:18:08am |
re: #586 Gus 802
We can’t use an ordinary bench! This bench has to talk! It has to be a “Smart Bench”. The iBench!
//I laugh but that’s how it is today.
They hired some local artists here to design the benches and outdoor seating.
They’re solid metal. They are ALWAYS bonechillingly cold, and since they have no holes or slats, rainwater collects in them. This is scotland people, it’s always raining and never hot!
Reminds me of the scary playground they built last year near the brooklyn bridge, featuring a giant metal ball for kids to climb on. Many burns occurred before they removed them.
| 590 |
laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:18:28am |
re: #567 Gus 802
No wait! Maybe not. Next thing you know they’ll be singing “The Internationale” and stop working.
//
The Internationale is soooooo 1916.
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prairiefire Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:18:55am |
re: #532 RogueOne
We have sobriety checkpoints all over the KC area, every weekend. They’ve done it now for about 14 years. My hubby said if they would have had them 25 years ago, he would be riding the bus now.
| 593 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:20:12am |
Benches have to make a statement. Something about peace or diversity.
The capitalist in me would sell space on the benches for advertising—pay for the benches, their installation and upkeep and make a profit for the city.
That’s just me.
| 594 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:21:08am |
re: #589 iceweasel
They hired some local artists here to design the benches and outdoor seating.
They’re solid metal. They are ALWAYS bonechillingly cold, and since they have no holes or slats, rainwater collects in them. This is scotland people, it’s always raining and never hot!
Reminds me of the scary playground they built last year near the brooklyn bridge, featuring a giant metal ball for kids to climb on. Many burns occurred before they removed them.
Right. Here I thought that we already pre-designed benches many of which were well designed in the 1930s.
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:21:46am |
re: #593 ggt
Benches have to make a statement. Something about peace or diversity.
The capitalist in me would sell space on the benches for advertising—pay for the benches, their installation and upkeep and make a profit for the city.
That’s just me.
No bench shall be approved without the explicit endorsement of the Peace and Justice Commission!
//
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:21:54am |
re: #581 Simply Sarah
you have good thoughts on the subject, I’m not as riled up about it as I was, i sorta chilled out if you read my later post on it (and my thoughts about how the 2004 LGF commenters would have on average been far more nasty on the subject)
it felt so unbelievably close to blaming the rape victim, that I guess is the core of why I really got mad
defenseless people driven out of their communities, ostrasized by their families, beaten to the point of seizure as people just happily watched and filmed it, then I read that (And Ace is a guy I liked talking vidya games with, so I was doubly pissed) and I just saw red.
All this over the basic human need to take a dump, even THAT is made into some giant political thing
So frustrating I can’t even articulate it, ya know?
| 598 |
RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:22:51am |
re: #592 prairiefire
We have sobriety checkpoints all over the KC area, every weekend. They’ve done it now for about 14 years. My hubby said if they would have had them 25 years ago, he would be riding the bus now.
They use them pretty often around here, usually right at my exit, I don’t DUI so it’s more annoying than troubling.
| 599 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:23:24am |
re: #593 ggt
Benches have to make a statement. Something about peace or diversity.
The capitalist in me would sell space on the benches for advertising—pay for the benches, their installation and upkeep and make a profit for the city.
That’s just me.
we have ad benches all over portland! Totally cool with ‘em
One has an ad for a real estate agent named
BILLY GRIPPO! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
| 600 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:23:51am |
re: #592 prairiefire
We have sobriety checkpoints all over the KC area, every weekend. They’ve done it now for about 14 years. My hubby said if they would have had them 25 years ago, he would be riding the bus now.
wow states sure are different
| 601 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:24:13am |
There was more than the Paulian yesterday?
Yeesh.
| 602 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:24:28am |
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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:24:30am |
re: #599 WindUpBird
we have ad benches all over portland! Totally cool with ‘em
One has an ad for a real estate agent named
BILLY GRIPPO! ! ! !
Real estate agents is fascism!
“Thousands gather to protest transit bench with RE agent advertising!”
//
| 604 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:25:43am |
Transit bench burned down! Arson suspected. Sarah Tammy reports from the Lower Haight.
//
| 605 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:26:14am |
re: #603 Gus 802
Real estate agents is fascism!
“Thousands gather to protest transit bench with RE agent advertising!”
//
We have a roundabout in Portland with this big crazy statue, and benches surrounding it.
I wanted to go hang out on the bench a few winters back when we had this horriffic snow-then-ice-then-snow-then-ice that made every road in portland a frozen hellscape
hang out on the Billy Grippo Bench watching cars attempt to navigate the roundabout! But of course, I couldn’t get there because snow ice
| 606 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:27:27am |
re: #601 Varek Raith
There was more than the Paulian yesterday?
Yeesh.
Well, I can’t find shit.
You all shouldn’t tease people so!
/
| 607 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:28:25am |
Never fails. Puppy is almost asleep and the Cat Overlord decides he needs to inspect the kitchen.
Then, once he has the the puppy’s attention he sails over the baby gate and the puppy does a face-plant into said gate.
The puppy is wide awake and barking at the door, again And it is still raining.
He did point a bird on the wing. That was cool.
| 608 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:29:03am |
re: #605 WindUpBird
We have a roundabout in Portland with this big crazy statue, and benches surrounding it.
I wanted to go hang out on the bench a few winters back when we had this horriffic snow-then-ice-then-snow-then-ice that made every road in portland a frozen hellscape
hang out on the Billy Grippo Bench watching cars attempt to navigate the roundabout! But of course, I couldn’t get there because snow ice
I hate roundabouts.
| 609 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:29:13am |
I’m in my classic computer game happy place, no more political grumping for me today
| 610 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:29:28am |
| 611 |
Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:29:42am |
re: #596 WindUpBird
you have good thoughts on the subject, I’m not as riled up about it as I was, i sorta chilled out if you read my later post on it (and my thoughts about how the 2004 LGF commenters would have on average been far more nasty on the subject)
it felt so unbelievably close to blaming the rape victim, that I guess is the core of why I really got mad
defenseless people driven out of their communities, ostrasized by their families, beaten to the point of seizure as people just happily watched and filmed it, then I read that (And Ace is a guy I liked talking vidya games with, so I was doubly pissed) and I just saw red.
All this over the basic human need to take a dump, even THAT is made into some giant political thing
So frustrating I can’t even articulate it, ya know?
Oh, I completely understand and I’m not blaming you for the reaction. It would be great for this kind of treatment to end (And it would be morally right, as well). But that’s not going to happen in a vacuum, especially since a sizable part of the problem is a lack of education on the subject (Often the case with this sort of thing). Because of this, I think trying to educate the public is the best solution, even if it involves laying out things that seem like they should be obvious to you or me. Getting outwardly angry and dismissive, even if just for a short time, often plays into the hands of the bigots and can make normal people less willing to listen. At least, that’s my, potentially naive, thinking.
| 612 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:29:54am |
re: #608 ggt
I hate roundabouts.
I have a fast car that is very small that loves to corner. Roundabouts are the best legal fun I can have in my VW inside city limits
| 613 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:30:24am |
re: #612 WindUpBird
I have a fast car that is very small that loves to corner. Roundabouts are the best legal fun I can have in my VW inside city limits
You live a sad life.
:)
| 614 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:30:41am |
Then you get the folks that want to add wi-fi, new fiber optic lines, replace sewer and water lines with the latest “acceptable” pipe material — preferably one not meed with tree nuts. Then! You have to have surveillance at each stop for the DEA and Homeland Fatherland Security.
//
| 615 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:31:06am |
re: #611 Simply Sarah
hahaha I’m long past the point of pretending to be the person who is never angry or dismissive :D It will never be my nature to be the totally even calm guy
the artist lives to express himself, and sometimes that means a few f-bombs
| 616 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:31:29am |
re: #612 WindUpBird
I have a fast car that is very small that loves to corner. Roundabouts are the best legal fun I can have in my VW inside city limits
Railroad ties on the sides of your car helps.
| 617 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:31:57am |
re: #613 ggt
You live a sad life.
:)
I lost my license for going 90 in a 30 zone in a Trans Am, as a teenager
At least now I know when to quit *_*
| 618 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:32:02am |
re: #614 Gus 802
Then you get the folks that want to add wi-fi, new fiber optic lines, replace sewer and water lines with the latest “acceptable” pipe material — preferably one not meed with tree nuts. Then! You have to have surveillance at each stop for the DEA and
HomelandFatherland Security.//
HA!
| 620 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:32:49am |
| 621 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:33:02am |
re: #616 Gus 802
Railroad ties on the sides of your car helps.
I wonder if this thing would be street legal
“PULL OVER YOUR SKULL!”
| 622 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:33:34am |
re: #621 WindUpBird
I wonder if this thing would be street legal
“PULL OVER YOUR SKULL!”
tires look a bit big.
| 623 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:34:25am |
re: #621 WindUpBird
I wonder if this thing would be street legal
“PULL OVER YOUR SKULL!”
I’m thinking…
The driver wouldn’t give a shit.
re: #622 ggt
tires look a bit big.
The better to crush you with.
| 625 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:34:45am |
re: #622 ggt
tires look a bit big.
I’d love to pull up next to some dude rolling on 22”s in a Yukon.
“Nice rims! Did you steal them off a lawn mower?”
| 626 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:35:21am |
re: #623 Varek Raith
somebody tell Lord Humongous he has too many points on his license
| 627 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:35:44am |
re: #625 WindUpBird
I’d love to pull up next to some dude rolling on 22”s in a Yukon.
“Nice rims! Did you steal them off a lawn mower?”
So, size matters?
—and you drive a VW?
| 628 |
Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:35:58am |
re: #615 WindUpBird
hahaha I’m long past the point of pretending to be the person who is never angry or dismissive :D It will never be my nature to be the totally even calm guy
the artist lives to express himself, and sometimes that means a few f-bombs
Heh, that’s fine. You don’t need to stay calm all the time. Just need to avoid letting it cloud judgement too much or taking control. This is something I know far too well, since I used to (And, on rare occasions, still do) have some anger/emotion control issues.
| 629 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:36:13am |
In the world of 80’s movies and television involving outrageous novelty vehicles, I have no equal in expertise
| 630 |
Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:37:05am |
re: #602 WindUpBird
hahahaha best not even ask
Oh I’m reading.
I’ll use the fucking bathroom with anyone. Hell, it’s the BATHROOM!
Sad.
| 631 |
William Barnett-Lewis Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:37:20am |
re: #572 WindUpBird
though the OS X gotta have some atari emus, right? The 8-bit chipset is simple as shit to emulate
You realize you just killed my day? LOL Off on an emulator hunt!
(maybe I could really be perverse and find one for Mac 68k and run it in Basilisk II for double emulation?)
| 632 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:37:35am |
| 633 |
RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:37:44am |
re: #630 Stanley Sea
Oh I’m reading.
I’ll use the fucking bathroom with anyone. Hell, it’s the BATHROOM!
Sad.
Want to go out for a drink?
| 634 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:37:53am |
re: #627 ggt
So, size matters?
—and you drive a VW?
This is my car, or at leats, this is very SIMILAR to my car :) Mine isn’t yellow though
Turbo go vroom
| 635 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:37:58am |
I’ve never understood the car thing.
To me, I just want it to work.
| 636 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:38:33am |
Oh, man, ruined!
Image: camo-bentley.jpg
| 638 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:38:55am |
re: #634 WindUpBird
This is my car, or at leats, this is very SIMILAR to my car :) Mine isn’t yellow though
Turbo go vroom
What color is yours?
| 639 |
laZardo Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:38:59am |
re: #579 WindUpBird
well property values raise around train stations, Portland guides development by where they put light rail
that weird antipathy people have against trains, it’s like they just love sitting in traffic, paying a quadzillion dollars for gas, insurane, maintenance, everything
I love cars, but man, light rail is the future, and that’s just all there is to it. Our obsession with the car goes off a cliff when gas prices hit a point
Trains as transit will always be more expensive because they practically provoke NIMBY with their nature. Buses, on the other hand, really only use the roads they run on. Infrastructure could be built in/on/around those roads.
| 640 |
Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:39:47am |
| 641 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:41:24am |
I’m trying to decide how I should spend my $6 Laundry Windfall.
Any ideas?
| 642 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:41:38am |
re: #630 Stanley Sea
Oh I’m reading.
I’ll use the fucking bathroom with anyone. Hell, it’s the BATHROOM!
Sad.
I KNOW!!!!
I’m used to going camping, going to BM, rooming with friends at cons, 8 artists in one suite, one bathroom. My friends growing up, one of them had a 6 person family, one bathroom. Another one, four kids and a grandmother. two bathrooms! But one of them was always in use by the disabled grandma. And yet I’m to understand that if a trans person is in the same REALM as some lady, it’s a violation? What children! What weak minds. :D
People are so uptight and scared and weird, like they have a maze of terrifying neuroses about the toilet, it’s such entitled weak sauce, such sillyness.
| 644 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:42:08am |
re: #630 Stanley Sea
Oh I’m reading.
I’ll use the fucking bathroom with anyone. Hell, it’s the BATHROOM!
Sad.
Jeebus, I just found that shit.
| 646 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:42:52am |
re: #635 ggt
I’ve never understood the car thing.
To me, I just want it to work.
I love cars. since I was BORN. I had the Countach poster, and the 911 turbo poster, and the KITT poster, and the AUTOMAN poster, and the…
| 647 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:43:01am |
re: #642 WindUpBird
“People are so uptight and scared and weird, like they have a maze of terrifying neuroses about the toilet, it’s such entitled weak sauce, such sillyness.”
No, I think it’s homophobia.
They are afraid you’ll ask for toilet paper or some other such “code”.
| 648 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:43:04am |
re: #645 Gus 802
durr of course, I’m a moron
| 650 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:43:54am |
re: #646 WindUpBird
I love cars. since I was BORN. I had the Countach poster, and the 911 turbo poster, and the KITT poster, and the AUTOMAN poster, and the…
Metal Tonka trucks > than all that
| 651 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:44:06am |
re: #646 WindUpBird
I love cars. since I was BORN. I had the Countach poster, and the 911 turbo poster, and the KITT poster, and the AUTOMAN poster, and the…
Everyone was gaga for a Countach. Today, it looks like a kit-car to me.
| 652 |
Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:44:08am |
re: #647 ggt
“People are so uptight and scared and weird, like they have a maze of terrifying neuroses about the toilet, it’s such entitled weak sauce, such sillyness.”
No, I think it’s homophobia.
They are afraid you’ll ask for toilet paper or some other such “code”.
Part of the problem is that people confuse sexual orientation and gender identity, when they’re two completely different things.
| 653 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:44:48am |
re: #649 Gus 802
Bathroom? Latest I read was “you looked at my man!”
Damn, I don’t even notice other people in public bathrooms. I’m too busy taking a piss to care.
Sheesh.
| 654 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:44:49am |
re: #638 ggt
boring color, it’s grey
it’s not EXACTLY the 20th av GTI, it’s got some of the same goodies though
| 655 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:44:54am |
re: #652 Simply Sarah
Part of the problem is that people confuse sexual orientation and gender identity, when they’re two completely different things.
People will never get that sometimes you just wanna pee!
| 656 |
Randy W. Weeks Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:46:07am |
Man, I screwed up royally last night. Our 12 year old lab/retriever is dying of cancer and battling pneumonia right now (she is getting better slowly, but doesn’t have too long to live even is she kicks the pneumonia). Brenda is handling it as best she can.
I forgot what was going to happen at the end of Game of Thrones on HBO last night. (Don’t want to spoil it too much).
Bad, bad mistake on my part. You’d think after 31 years I would have known better. I felt like a heel.
| 657 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:46:27am |
re: #653 Varek Raith
Damn, I don’t even notice other people in public bathrooms. I’m too busy taking a piss to care.
Sheesh.
The primary criteria is this. That they’re clean.
| 658 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:46:36am |
re: #651 Gus 802
Everyone was gaga for a Countach. Today, it looks like a kit-car to me.
I still love it, but it does date so 80’s
Apparently, they were MADE POORLY. The interior was shit, and they just were constantly falling apart. jalopnik always does these things about 80’s supercars and how…much less impresisve they are now that many of them would fall to a kid in a Subie STI or an Evo with a chip
if you wanted a well made 80’s supercar, you got a 911. Same thing is true today. Build quality = Germany.
| 659 |
FemNaziBitch Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:47:57am |
I’m off for a while.
have a great day all!
| 660 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:48:10am |
re: #652 Simply Sarah
Part of the problem is that people confuse sexual orientation and gender identity, when they’re two completely different things.
I agree
it’s like not even confusion, I think it’s just this reaction to the Other. it’s not like they’d react better if it was gay vs tg. it’s just ARGH NOT MY TRIBE ALERT ALERT
| 661 |
Four More Tears Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:48:14am |
re: #656 LoneStarSpur
Man, I screwed up royally last night. Our 12 year old lab/retriever is dying of cancer and battling pneumonia right now (she is getting better slowly, but doesn’t have too long to live even is she kicks the pneumonia). Brenda is handling it as best she can.
I forgot what was going to happen at the end of Game of Thrones on HBO last night. (Don’t want to spoil it too much).
Bad, bad mistake on my part. You’d think after 31 years I would have known better. I felt like a heel.
Well, it’s not going to be a feel-good series anyway, you know. But point taken. Just don’t watch I Am Legend now…
| 662 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:48:55am |
Just give me one of these.
Image: aston-martin-vantage.jpg
| 663 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:48:57am |
re: #650 Varek Raith
Metal Tonka trucks > than all that
Oh dude I had SO MANY TONKAS
I had a collection going that was pretty epic
| 664 |
RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:49:11am |
re: #661 JasonA
I DVR’d the episode last night, they don’t kill the kids puppy off do they?
| 665 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:49:11am |
Ha! Looks like that high priced lawyer for the House GOP doesn’t want to defend DOMA.
Cue the cranial asplosions on the lunatic right.
| 666 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:50:18am |
re: #665 Lidane
Ha! Looks like that high priced lawyer for the House GOP doesn’t want to defend DOMA.
Cue the cranial asplosions on the lunatic right.
DOMA? And here I thought it was about gasoline prices and the economy.
How could I forget. It’s not the economy it’s teh gays! :)
| 667 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:50:32am |
re: #665 Lidane
Ha! Looks like that high priced lawyer for the House GOP doesn’t want to defend DOMA.
Cue the cranial asplosions on the lunatic right.
Rofl.
| 668 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:51:09am |
re: #662 Varek Raith
beautiful, but too….elegant for me.
I’m a bastard. I want a bastard vehicle. Evil Porsches that look like they’re about to kill
| 669 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:51:27am |
re: #663 WindUpBird
Oh dude I had SO MANY TONKAS
I had a collection going that was pretty epic
We lived across the street from a lake. The yard was pretty much dirt and sand.
Needless to say, I had a lot of fun with those.
| 670 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:51:59am |
re: #665 Lidane
Ha! Looks like that high priced lawyer for the House GOP doesn’t want to defend DOMA.
Cue the cranial asplosions on the lunatic right.
wasn’t that firm pro gay? And then the one guy was gonna defend DOMA, and then the LGBT community went nova and the firm went UHHHHHH CRAP OK
| 671 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:52:20am |
re: #669 Varek Raith
We lived across the street from a lake. The yard was pretty much dirt and sand.
Needless to say, I had a lot of fun with those.
I was smitten with the Terex Titan *_*
| 673 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:53:36am |
re: #671 WindUpBird
I was smitten with the Terex Titan *_*
Hah, I had a couple of them.
Big freaking toys.
| 674 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:54:58am |
re: #673 Varek Raith
Hah, I had a couple of them.
Big freaking toys.
did your parents own an oil well? :D
| 675 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:55:19am |
| 676 |
Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:55:44am |
re: #665 Lidane
Ha! Looks like that high priced lawyer for the House GOP doesn’t want to defend DOMA.
Cue the cranial asplosions on the lunatic right.
Wow, seriously? That’s at once both shocking and pretty understandable. From a business standpoint, at least. On the one hand, it seems like the kind of case that could cost your firm a lot of clients. On the other hand, people looking for the best representation may or may not really care about other work you’ve done. I’ll be interested to see if more information comes out that better details the cause.
| 677 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:56:01am |
re: #647 ggt
“People are so uptight and scared and weird, like they have a maze of terrifying neuroses about the toilet, it’s such entitled weak sauce, such sillyness.”
No, I think it’s homophobia.
They are afraid you’ll ask for toilet paper or some other such “code”.
They’re afraid of people with ‘wide stances’.
| 678 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:56:34am |
re: #674 WindUpBird
did your parents own an oil well? :D
Lol. I had the toy versions.
Though, there was a construction site nearby. We knew the owners of the company.
I got to ride in all kinds of heavy vehicles.
| 679 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:57:19am |
re: #676 Simply Sarah
Wow, seriously? That’s at once both shocking and pretty understandable. From a business standpoint, at least. On the one hand, it seems like the kind of case that could cost your firm a lot of clients. On the other hand, people looking for the best representation may or may not really care about other work you’ve done. I’ll be interested to see if more information comes out that better details the cause.
I think it’s more that the firm’s entire prestige was in danger
Every gay person in the country would have been laser death eyes on that firm, it would be seen as the most vicious and craven betrayal
| 680 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:57:31am |
re: #678 Varek Raith
Lol. I had the toy versions.
Though, there was a construction site nearby. We knew the owners of the company.
I got to ride in all kinds of heavy vehicles.
LUCKY!!!!
| 681 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:57:41am |
| 682 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:57:54am |
re: #678 Varek Raith
Lol. I had the toy versions.
Though, there was a construction site nearby. We knew the owners of the company.
I got to ride in all kinds of heavy vehicles.
I got to ride in one of these.
Image: Bulldozer%201024%20x%20768.jpg
I know, you’re all jealous.
/
| 684 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 7:58:49am |
re: #680 WindUpBird
LUCKY!!!
Before that, we lived on a farm house. This was before I was 5. I do remember riding in tractors.
Fun times.
| 685 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:02:46am |
I don’t know why, but these were my favorite earth movers.
Image: grader.jpg
| 686 |
RogueOne Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:03:13am |
Time to get my housework started. Enjoy the rest of the day folks, keep the stall door closed.
| 687 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:03:23am |
re: #684 Varek Raith
Before that, we lived on a farm house. This was before I was 5. I do remember riding in tractors.
Fun times.
You lived on a farm house?
Weird.
| 688 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:03:30am |
re: #664 RogueOne
God damn! I’m already watching one heartbreakingly tragic television show!
| 689 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:04:29am |
re: #687 reine.de.tout
You lived on a farm house?
Weird.
:P
Yeah, worded that one weirdly.
I’ve tried to find it on GoogleEarth, though I think it’s gone now.
| 690 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:10:16am |
re: #687 reine.de.tout
ironically, the only friend I knew as a kid who lived in a farmhouse, it wasn’t a functioning farm, and it was just filled with nerdy computer goodness, both parents were engineers who owned their own firm
But it was so great, he has all this amazing land, three giant sheepdogs, sledding on the grounds when it snowed, adventures in the barn, building floats for parades, no kidding, it was this zany wonderland
| 691 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:11:48am |
Speaking of cranial explosions, Ed Morrissey over at Hot Air is hyperventilating about this right now:
It’s a Google cache link. Hopefully it works.
| 692 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:13:29am |
re: #691 Lidane
Speaking of cranial explosions, Ed Morrissey over at Hot Air is hyperventilating about this right now:
It’s a Google cache link. Hopefully it works.
It works all too well. What a sewer that place is.
| 693 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:15:57am |
re: #691 Lidane
I was just over at hot air! Surveying the landscape, like I do at my favorite dive karaoke bars when the methheads start posturing
Those commenters are like goldfish, 7 seconds of memory, almost cosmic myopia mixed with dull uneducated suburban bigotry
| 694 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:17:09am |
re: #693 WindUpBird
Whinging about China owning our debt, and blaming Obama for it, hahahaha
The internet is so much more amazing now that rubes know how to get online, the ant farm truly is made of glass now! YOU CAN SEE ALL THEIR DUMB SMALL TINY LIVES PLAY OUT BEFORE US
| 695 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:17:14am |
re: #693 WindUpBird
I was just over at hot air! Surveying the landscape, like I do at my favorite dive karaoke bars when the methheads start posturing
Those commenters are like goldfish, 7 seconds of memory, almost cosmic myopia mixed with dull uneducated suburban bigotry
Sometimes it rads like a 15 years old boy having his first can of beer. Which is all to common these days. Heck, it’s the intertoobs.
| 696 |
lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:17:43am |
re: #692 iceweasel
Supreme Court rejects fast-track on health care litigation.
10-1014
VIRGINIA, EX REL. CUCCINELLI V. SEBELIUS, SEC. OF H&HS
The petition for a writ of certiorari before judgment is
denied.
| 698 |
albusteve Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:18:19am |
re: #690 WindUpBird
ironically, the only friend I knew as a kid who lived in a farmhouse, it wasn’t a functioning farm, and it was just filled with nerdy computer goodness, both parents were engineers who owned their own firm
But it was so great, he has all this amazing land, three giant sheepdogs, sledding on the grounds when it snowed, adventures in the barn, building floats for parades, no kidding, it was this zany wonderland
very much the same for me….a nice blend of rural countryside 10 miles from the city…many of my friends were farm oriented, others from old wealth
| 699 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:18:26am |
re: #693 WindUpBird
I was at Freeper-ville for my daily visit to the freakshow and they had a screaming headline about the Hot Air story.
I didn’t want to wade into FR’s comments section, as I’m currently sitting in Finance class and I need those brain cells, so I decided to just cache Hot Air’s idiocy instead. Heh.
| 700 |
Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:18:45am |
Florida Woman Finds 7-Foot Alligator In Her Bathroom
| 701 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:20:20am |
re: #693 WindUpBird
Any clue why the wingnuts expected Kagan to recuse herself?
| 702 |
lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:21:22am |
re: #699 Lidane
It’s really pretty simple. The majority of the real tax/revenue changes take place beginning in 2014, and the court believes there’s sufficient time to review following a normal judicial review of the issues. By giving the lower circuits a chance to review, the key issues can be discerned and allow the Court the opportunity to review before a full record.
I see that as a sign of judicial restraint - allowing a proper review after the lower courts review the facts and issues.
| 703 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:21:23am |
re: #701 Killgore Trout
Any clue why the wingnuts expected Kagan to recuse herself?
Because, that’s why.
| 704 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:21:26am |
re: #695 Gus 802
Sometimes it rads like a 15 years old boy having his first can of beer. Which is all to common these days. Heck, it’s the intertoobs.
they’re all excited, some angry grandpa, some guy in Minnesota who finally figured out he can go find all the people who think like he does on Hot Air
And I just giggle and go, silly children, silly HotAir commenters, I was arguing lit and death metal and politics on the internet and uuencoding warez and telneting to exotic locales when you thought computers were witches come to steal your Jesus
Hot Air! They couldn’t have picked a better name. The farts of undereducated fools from all across the fruited plain, stained with the drool of a thousand tools
| 706 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:21:41am |
| 708 |
lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:22:23am |
re: #701 Killgore Trout
Probably because Kagan was solicitor general before being named to the Court, and therefore had a role in the HCR defense?
| 709 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:22:30am |
re: #697 Gus 802
Reads not rads. Like rads man. /
it almost works
those guys really are radioactive
Your brain is shot through with stray atoms, damaged for having witnessed the stupidity. you become stupider for having gazed into their dead dull cow eyes
| 710 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:22:37am |
re: #704 WindUpBird
they’re all excited, some angry grandpa, some guy in Minnesota who finally figured out he can go find all the people who think like he does on Hot Air
And I just giggle and go, silly children, silly HotAir commenters, I was arguing lit and death metal and politics on the internet and uuencoding warez and telneting to exotic locales when you thought computers were witches come to steal your Jesus
Hot Air! They couldn’t have picked a better name. The farts of undereducated fools from all across the fruited plain, stained with the drool of a thousand tools
That’s the scary part. 15 going on 63. Beavis and Butthead incarnate.
| 711 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:23:13am |
| 712 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:23:30am |
re: #708 lawhawk
Probably because Kagan was solicitor general before being named to the Court, and therefore had a role in the HCR defense?
Yes, that’s what HotAir mentions.
| 713 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:23:33am |
The difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam is political.
//
| 714 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:24:09am |
re: #711 WindUpBird
mumbo jumbo
mumbo jumbo
mumbo jumbo
mumbo jumbo
mumbo jumbo
Boris Balkan: Look around you all what do you see? A bunch of buffoons parading around in fancy dress. You think the prince of Darkness would deign to manifest himself before the likes of you? He never has and he never will! Never!
| 715 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:24:32am |
re: #713 Gus 802
The difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam is political.
//
ahahahaha
| 716 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:24:54am |
re: #708 lawhawk
Probably because Kagan was solicitor general before being named to the Court, and therefore had a role in the HCR defense?
Ah, that could be it.
| 717 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:25:10am |
re: #715 WindUpBird
ahahahaha
Want more?
In America, we have a true separation of Church and State.
//
| 720 |
goddamnedfrank Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:25:54am |
| 721 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:26:31am |
re: #713 Gus 802
The difference between Islam and Christianity is that Islam is political.
//
I read that somewhere every single day. Favourite wingnut hater talking point. Burp.
| 722 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:26:49am |
re: #699 Lidane
I was at Freeper-ville for my daily visit to the freakshow and they had a screaming headline about the Hot Air story.
I didn’t want to wade into FR’s comments section, as I’m currently sitting in Finance class and I need those brain cells, so I decided to just cache Hot Air’s idiocy instead. Heh.
I keep forgetting that anyone can internet from class these days, it just never enters my head
it still sounds strange when you say it, I can’t imagine, I graduated college waaay before wi-fi was a reality, my college was excited to have 486s with 16 colors.
SIXTEEN!
COLORS!
ALL OF THEM, MAN!
| 723 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:27:18am |
re: #721 iceweasel
I read that somewhere every single day. Favourite wingnut hater talking point. Burp.
Dittoburp. Amazing isn’t it? I probably don’t need to explain right?
| 724 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:27:39am |
re: #721 iceweasel
I read that somewhere every single day. Favourite wingnut hater talking point. Burp.
That’s so dumb, I have a hard time believing they can say it aloud without being compelled to choke themselves in embarrassment
| 725 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:29:11am |
re: #721 iceweasel
I read that somewhere every single day. Favourite wingnut hater talking point. Burp.
Hey! There’s a “u” in your “favorite”! I demand to see your tax returns!
//
| 726 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:29:25am |
re: #723 Gus 802
Dittoburp. Amazing isn’t it? I probably don’t need to explain right?
May Rush Limbaugh live a long rich fulfilling life to the age of 100, wallowing around on his stained EIB golden bedsheets, furiously pleasuring himself in his pill coma, surrounded by well-paid women, lol
| 727 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:29:45am |
re: #725 Gus 802
Hey! There’s a “u” in your “favorite”! I demand to see your tax returns!
//
Sigh, she’s been assimilated.
It’s too late.
/
| 728 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:30:46am |
re: #720 goddamnedfrank
Old news is old.
heh, no kidding
SOMEBODY STOP HEALTH CARE REFORM
WE MIGHT ONLY SUCK DOG DICKS AS A NATION< RATHER THAN ELEPHANT BALLS
| 730 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:32:06am |
re: #524 ggt
Obama’s on the board of Halliburton! That’s what it is!
| 731 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:32:22am |
re: #725 Gus 802
Hey! There’s a “u” in your “favorite”! I demand to see your tax returns!
//
Once upon a time, that was a favourite observation to make here about my comments. ;)
| 732 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:32:30am |
re: #730 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Obama’s on the board of Halliburton! That’s what it is!
he sits next to Cigarette Smoking Man and Steve Gutenberg
| 733 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:33:12am |
re: #731 iceweasel
Once upon a time, that was a favourite observation to make here about my comments. ;)
Geez, I remember that.
What utter nonsense some posters had.
| 734 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:33:14am |
re: #731 iceweasel
Once upon a time, that was a favourite observation to make here about my comments. ;)
What, with the crusty old manchildren whose only accomplishment was joining the service?
| 735 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:33:28am |
re: #734 WindUpBird
WHOOPS, WAS THAT OUT LOUD
| 736 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:33:53am |
re: #731 iceweasel
Once upon a time, that was a favourite observation to make here about my comments. ;)
And the cause of deep consternation and severe genuflecting lamentations laced in butthurt for months. Most of which lingers to this date! LOL
| 737 |
lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:34:14am |
re: #732 WindUpBird
No, that’s the Stone Cutters…. get your damned ancient orders of secret societies straight! :)
| 738 |
iossarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:34:27am |
re: #735 WindUpBird
WHOOPS, WAS THAT OUT LOUD
Be careful with the Career Choice Which Shall Not Be Mocked.
| 739 |
iceweasel Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:35:18am |
re: #736 Gus 802
And the cause of deep consternation and severe genuflecting lamentations laced in butthurt for months. Most of which lingers to this date! LOL
New Jimmah-Ice Production: What motivates wingnuts:
| 740 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:36:07am |
re: #736 Gus 802
And the cause of deep consternation and severe genuflecting lamentations laced in butthurt for months. Most of which lingers to this date! LOL
Now I am sitting alone in my darkened apartment, doing my best death metal grunt, singing GEN-U-FLEC-TING LAM-EN-TAAAAA-TIONNNNN
it’s the four syllable, four syllable. it slots perfectly into classic death metal, Carcass and Obituary being good examples of the genre
| 741 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:37:01am |
re: #738 iossarian
Be careful with the Career Choice Which Shall Not Be Mocked.
I would so fail at Army.
I just can’t help but laugh at people who yell at me about dumb things.
YOU DID NOT MAKE THIS BED CORRECTLY!
Okely dokely, Major Glory.
/
| 742 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:37:05am |
| 743 |
calochortus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:37:09am |
This may be redundant as I haven’t had a chance to read very far back in the comments, but I see that King and Spalding have decided against defending DOMA for Boehner.
| 744 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:38:00am |
re: #740 WindUpBird
Now I am sitting alone in my darkened apartment, doing my best death metal grunt, singing GEN-U-FLEC-TING LAM-EN-TAAA-TIONNN
it’s the four syllable, four syllable. it slots perfectly into classic death metal, Carcass and Obituary being good examples of the genre
[Video]
The Genuflectors
Too 80s?
/
| 747 |
iossarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:39:24am |
re: #742 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This is the dawning of the end of America!
End of Americaaa
Americaaa!
Ameriacaa!
40-year-old Virgin is not a terribly good film, but the moment at the end when Steve Carrell breaks the 4th wall and starts singing that song is pure genius.
| 748 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:39:58am |
re: #741 Varek Raith
I would so fail at Army.
I just can’t help but laugh at people who yell at me about dumb things.YOU DID NOT MAKE THIS BED CORRECTLY!
Okely dokely, Major Glory.
/
That’s the whole reason I ran screaming from the military recruiters in high school. I made the mistake of taking the ASVAB just to get out of class for the day and ended up with people from West Point and the Air Force Academy at my door.
I didn’t mind the prospect of four years of free school, but the five years of mandatory service after that? Not so much. Heh.
| 750 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:41:18am |
re: #748 Lidane
That’s the whole reason I ran screaming from the military recruiters in high school. I made the mistake of taking the ASVAB just to get out of class for the day and ended up with people from West Point and the Air Force Academy at my door.
I didn’t mind the prospect of four years of free school, but the five years of mandatory service after that? Not so much. Heh.
In high school I got the recruiter screaming red at me. All because I’m a sarcastic SOB.
| 752 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:42:00am |
| 753 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:42:18am |
If you disagree with me on _____ then you must not care about ______ .
| 754 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:42:45am |
re: #738 iossarian
Be careful with the Career Choice Which Shall Not Be Mocked.
Nobody is beyond my mockery, not even me
I don’t mock people FOR serving. I mock people who think their service gives them some status in an argument. Who use their service as a weapon to bully and shit on people in arguments. they’re disrespecting their service and their country. I will not suffer any of that shit, I will not tolerate it, and neither will my father who was under fucking sniper fire in vietnam. He taught me everything I know about knocking the block off assholes like that. He was a college grad who elected to join rather than be drafted. Changed his politics. He went in a conservative, came out a moderate. Had a couple kids, built his law practice up, now he’s almost as liberal as me.
Hubris, especially hubris on the part of much older people with flawed arguments and bad reasoning, is my favorite thing to attack, and angry conservative vets reeking of hubris and puffed up chests on message boards are just the easiest pickings on earth. On wargaming forums, they’re the most insufferable shitheads
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:43:07am |
re: #747 iossarian
40-year-old Virgin is not a terribly good film, but the moment at the end when Steve Carrell breaks the 4th wall and starts singing that song is pure genius.
I thought it was damned funny :D
| 759 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:45:39am |
re: #750 Varek Raith
In high school I got the recruiter screaming red at me. All because I’m a sarcastic SOB.
TELL THE WHOLE STORY!!!
| 761 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:45:47am |
| 762 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:46:12am |
re: #741 Varek Raith
I am one of six kids. The four olders joined. I was going to but my dad asked me not to, saying, “Boy? I’ve given four of mine to Uncle Sam. I think that’s enough.”
But the idea of snickering in a DIs face scared the shit out of me too.
| 763 |
lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:46:20am |
Iranians claim that they’re being hit with a new follow-on to Stuxnet.
ran has been targeted by a second computer virus in a “cyber war” waged by its enemies, its commander of civil defense said on Monday.Gholamreza Jalali told the semi-official Mehr news agency that the new virus, called “Stars”, was being investigated by experts. Last year, Iran revealed that its computers were attacked by the Stuxnet worm, which attack the Bushehr nuclear reactor.
“Fortunately, our young experts have been able to discover this virus and the Stars virus is now in the laboratory for more investigations,” Jalali was quoted as saying. He did not specify the target of Stars or its intended impact.
| 764 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:46:34am |
re: #763 lawhawk
Stuxnet fascinates me *_*
| 766 |
iossarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:47:01am |
re: #755 WindUpBird
I thought it was damned funny :D
It had its moments. I doubt I’ll be going back to it all that much in years to come though!
Completely agree with your other comment re. military service BTW.
| 768 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:49:18am |
re: #759 WindUpBird
TELL THE WHOLE STORY!!!
Lol.
I’m just good at pressing the wrong buttons.
It also didn’t help that my sarcasm can be difficult to detect.
He was pissed when he found out I was just being sarcastic.
Which made it funnier.
And him madder.
Positive feedback loops are fun.
| 769 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:49:24am |
re: #754 WindUpBird
I always make a point to thank service members for their service.
I’ll let them go before me in line. I’ll buy a drink or two.
But they ain’t more Murikan than I am.
| 770 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:50:33am |
re: #768 Varek Raith
Lol.
I’m just good at pressing the wrong buttons.
It also didn’t help that my sarcasm can be difficult to detect.
He was pissed when he found out I was just being sarcastic.
Which made it funnier.
And him madder.
Positive feedback loops are fun.
Note: I’m like this with everyone I meet. Hell, if I knew the Queen of England I’d be ticking her off.
:)
| 771 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:50:45am |
re: #766 iossarian
It had its moments. I doubt I’ll be going back to it all that much in years to come though!
Completely agree with your other comment re. military service BTW.
I respect the armed services the way I respect people who go become nurses in tough areas, or teachers in tough areas, or go volunteer in the peace corps. Or go do humanitarian work. Or go become journalists in war zones. Tough gigs. People follow their hearts. But one’s gotta make their point with their ideas and their words! Not their rank.
| 772 |
Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:50:59am |
re: #769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I always make a point to thank service members for their service.
I’ll let them go before me in line. I’ll buy a drink or two.
But they ain’t more Murikan than I am.
Bingo FBV!
| 773 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:53:39am |
a little wisdom:
The Turkey Curse works. It is firmly grounded on the fact that Greyface and his followers absolutely require an aneristic setting to function and that a timely introduction of eristic vibrations will neutralize their foundation. The Turkey Curse is designed solely to counteract negative aneristic vibes and if introduced into a neutral or positive aneristic setting (like a poet working out word rhythms) it will prove harmless, or at worst, simply annoying. It is not designed for use against negative eristic vibes, although it can be used as an eristic vehicle to introduce positive vibes into a misguided eristic setting. In this instance, it would be the responsibility of the Erisian Magician to manufacture the positive vibrations if results are to be achieved. CAUTION- all magic is powerful and requires courage and integrity on the part of the magician. This ritual, if misused, can backfire. Positive motivation is essential for self-protection.
| 774 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:54:02am |
re: #769 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I always make a point to thank service members for their service.
I’ll let them go before me in line. I’ll buy a drink or two.
But they ain’t more Murikan than I am.
Yeah, this. I will give people respect for their service, but I’m not going to treat them like gods, and I’m not going to fetishize them. They’re still just human beings.
| 777 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:54:52am |
| 779 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:55:08am |
| 780 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:55:42am |
| 781 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:56:04am |
re: #777 WindUpBird
Well, that was fun!
let’s see, what else do I have…
He’s out of line an putting words into people’s mouths. Talk about Strawmen and poisoning the well. And it makes us look bad.
| 782 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:57:44am |
Hee hee hee…someone can’t take the heat:
ROFL.
| 783 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 8:58:09am |
| 784 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:00:04am |
re: #782 Lidane
Hee hee hee…someone can’t take the heat:
ROFL.
Wait, is that the dude to said it was hard to get by on 170 thousand something a year?
Lol
| 785 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:00:45am |
re: #781 Gus 802
He’s out of line an putting words into people’s mouths. Talk about Strawmen and poisoning the well. And it makes us look bad.
agreed
also, I adore CuriousLurker, and I get real pissed off when people give Cl a hard time, because she’s about the most level person in this place
| 786 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:01:04am |
re: #784 Varek Raith
Wait, is that the dude to said it was hard to get by on 170 thousand something a year?
Lol
hahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
They cannot MAKE THIS UP
| 787 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:01:04am |
re: #783 Varek Raith
Being a congressperson is hard.
Not everyone likes you and your ideas.
Not everyone takes your answer as legitimate.
Being a congressperson is hard.
| 788 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:01:16am |
re: #784 Varek Raith
Wait, is that the dude to said it was hard to get by on 170 thousand something a year?
Lol
Yep. Same douche. It’s hard to get by on a six figure salary, and people asking about the Ryan budget should STFU and have their own town hall.
His district sure picked a winner. LOL.
| 789 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:02:08am |
re: #787 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Being a congressperson is hard.
Not everyone likes you and your ideas.
Not everyone takes your answer as legitimate.
Being a congressperson is hard.
Everything is Teh Hard.
:)
| 790 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:03:14am |
Ah, so nice not to have Comcast anymore.
Take that you bastards!!!
XD
| 791 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:03:53am |
re: #700 Stanley Sea
Florida Woman Finds 7-Foot Alligator In Her Bathroom
OMG! She screamed and the gator hissed. They were both scared out of their wits? Thank goodness it didn’t charge at her; and I keep wanting a “doggie door” for our pets, and the Roi keeps saying “NO” for just that reason - there’s no telling what will come in.
| 792 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:04:17am |
re: #788 Lidane
Yep. Same douche. It’s hard to get by on a six figure salary, and people asking about the Ryan budget should STFU and have their own town hall.
His district sure picked a winner. LOL.
A six figure salary that he earns by doing almost JACK SHIT, seriously these Republicans in office now are like a parody…of children. Children would call bullshit.
The people I know with six figure salaries, work like fucking dogs for it, clawed their way to some success working 100 hour weeks building their business or beocming leads at game companies, sleeping under their desks
Weak, soft manchildren masquerading as leaders, greedy and impotent
| 793 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:05:16am |
| 796 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:08:02am |
re: #794 WindUpBird
holy God O_O
The most I have to worry about is that damn possum that gets into the recycling bin.
Why he does it I’ll never know.
| 797 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:08:19am |
re: #796 Varek Raith
The most I have to worry about is that damn opossum that gets into the recycling bin.
Why he does it I’ll never know.
| 798 |
Winny Spencer Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:08:29am |
re: #784 Varek Raith
Wait, is that the dude to said it was hard to get by on 170 thousand something a year?
Lol
That townhall is pure entertainment. If only I had some popcorns at hand.
| 799 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:09:17am |
okay, I’m here, not going back…
| 800 |
Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:10:16am |
re: #791 reine.de.tout
OMG! She screamed and the gator hissed. They were both scared out of their wits? Thank goodness it didn’t charge at her; and I keep wanting a “doggie door” for our pets, and the Roi keeps saying “NO” for just that reason - there’s no telling what will come in.
When I went back to UF a couple of years ago we of course had to go down to Lake Alice (on the University grounds) to check it out. Unfortunately our timing was we went at night. There are HUGE gators there. My friends got out of the car & went to the shore, I was freaked out and stayed put. They came back, thank goodness.
| 801 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:10:22am |
good news: Transgendered people seem to be using that mcdonalds attack as a rallying cry: [Link: hosted.ap.org…]
AWESOME.
it is
about
damn
time.
Espeically on the east coast, where they have a way harder time of it, way more ignorance.
| 802 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:10:49am |
re: #796 Varek Raith
The most I have to worry about is that damn possum that gets into the recycling bin.
Why he does it I’ll never know.
Weirdest thing I ever saw was an armadillo just walking down my street without a care in the world. Occasionally I’ll hear the bats flying around outside, but they rarely come to my neighborhood.
I’ve seen two possums, but they were already roadkill.
| 803 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:10:56am |
The backlash continues….
Duffy Gets Huffy: Congressman Tells Voters Concerned With Ryan Budget To ‘Have Your Own Town Hall’
| 804 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:11:38am |
re: #800 Stanley Sea
God damn!
I mean, we have bears in the woods, in the mountains….far away….from ME.
gators! Hell on wheels! it’s like you guys are harboring mystic primordial beasts down there
| 805 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:12:11am |
re: #803 Killgore Trout
hahaha it’s like the don’t understand the internet can discredit GOP horseballs in the blink of a mouseclick
| 806 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:12:18am |
re: #803 Killgore Trout
The backlash continues…
Duffy Gets Huffy: Congressman Tells Voters Concerned With Ryan Budget To ‘Have Your Own Town Hall’[Video]
Voters are pissed because he’s using bogus charts from the Heritage Foundation instead of the CBO score.
Heritage! LOL
Heh. Guess they don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot do they?
| 807 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:12:26am |
re: #804 WindUpBird
God damn!
I mean, we have bears in the woods, in the mountains…far away…from ME.
gators! Hell on wheels! it’s like you guys are harboring mystic primordial beasts down there
Thar be dragon here!
/Louisiana State motto.
///
| 808 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:13:00am |
re: #803 Killgore Trout
some guy is probably sitting there WITH HIS IPHONE, discrediting this thick tongued child in real time
Not that it does any difference, the satisfaction of being right pales in comparison to the power of the pigs
| 809 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:13:18am |
re: #806 Gus 802
I guess the foot’s on the other hand now, isn’t it Kramer?
| 810 |
Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:13:27am |
re: #800 Stanley Sea
I watched an episode of one of those cyrptozoology shows, where they go out in the swaps looking for supposed local monsters.
They were going around in a swamp at night, and they saw something take a tree down, they didn’t get a good look at it.
The next day, they asked a local zoologist, and he said it was probably the salt water crocodile.
They suddenly realized they’d been stomping around in a swamp with this around:
| 811 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:13:41am |
re: #805 WindUpBird
hahaha it’s like the don’t understand the internet can discredit GOP horseballs in the blink of a mouseclick
It’s nice to see voters getting wise to this stuff. These aren’t professional rent-a-mobs. real voters are doing their own research. nice to see.
| 812 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:13:47am |
| 813 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:14:14am |
re: #811 Killgore Trout
It’s nice to see voters getting wise to this stuff. These aren’t professional rent-a-mobs. real voters are doing their own research. nice to see.
Activity is nice to see *_*
| 814 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:14:17am |
re: #810 Obdicut
I watched an episode of one of those cyrptozoology shows, where they go out in the swaps looking for supposed local monsters.
They were going around in a swamp at night, and they saw something take a tree down, they didn’t get a good look at it.
The next day, they asked a local zoologist, and he said it was probably the salt water crocodile.
They suddenly realized they’d been stomping around in a swamp with this around:
A freaking dinosaur.
| 816 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:14:50am |
| 819 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:16:20am |
re: #816 WindUpBird
A-A_A_A_A-a=aajkdhkufhgfkjnfdkjfhb
fuck a bunch of me NO no no no NO GATORS no
Aversion to gators in particular?
Or just big things that’ll RAWRIMMAEATYOU?
| 820 |
Obdicut Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:19:08am |
Hey Charles, when I look at Alouettes pages/rss feed link, I see the naked XML.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Using Chrome.
| 821 |
Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:19:32am |
A followup on the earlier news. It looks like Clement isn’t actually dropping the DOMA case. Rather, he’s leaving King & Spalding to take the case elsewhere, since the law firm decided it didn’t want to take it. So, in the end, he’s still on the case, just from somewhere else.
| 822 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:20:40am |
re: #819 Varek Raith
Aversion to gators in particular?
Or just big things that’ll RAWRIMMAEATYOU?
aversion to primordial beasts in population centers ^_^;;;;;
| 823 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:20:51am |
| 824 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:21:02am |
re: #820 Obdicut
whoa, yep, that’s not right no sir
| 825 |
Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:21:55am |
re: #823 Killgore Trout
The End Of America Is Best Illustrated By Major League Soccer, Apparently
Heh,
That shit again? They need psychotherapy.
| 826 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:21:59am |
re: #823 Killgore Trout
I can’t wait for the end of the age of America. If someone else dominates the earth, maybe we can scale back some of our hubris
| 827 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:22:12am |
| 829 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:22:43am |
re: #791 reine.de.tout
OMG! She screamed and the gator hissed. They were both scared out of their wits? Thank goodness it didn’t charge at her; and I keep wanting a “doggie door” for our pets, and the Roi keeps saying “NO” for just that reason - there’s no telling what will come in.
| 830 |
Varek Raith Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:24:09am |
| 831 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:24:17am |
| 832 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:29:31am |
re: #820 Obdicut
Hey Charles, when I look at Alouettes pages/rss feed link, I see the naked XML.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Using Chrome.
Chrome doesn’t have the ability to display formatted RSS. There are several extensions that can add this feature…
| 833 |
BongCrodny Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:32:50am |
re: #823 Killgore Trout
The End Of America Is Best Illustrated By Major League Soccer, Apparently
Heh,
It’s like the only thing that matters to these guys is whether the economy is number one.
Doesn’t matter where we fall when it comes to health care, life expectancy, quality of schools, etc. — the end of America comes when they can’t yell “WE’RE NUMBER ONE!” with regard to the economy.
| 834 |
reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:36:12am |
re: #802 Lidane
Weirdest thing I ever saw was an armadillo just walking down my street without a care in the world. Occasionally I’ll hear the bats flying around outside, but they rarely come to my neighborhood.
I’ve seen two possums, but they were already roadkill.
We are on the wildlife nighttime food path, apparently. We have a steady parade of raccoons and opossums visiting our porch every night for whatever is left over in the cats’ food bowls.
| 835 |
Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 9:36:37am |
| 836 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:13:38am |
re: #399 Shropshire_Slasher
Is a woman a bigot for not wanting a transgendered male in the woman’s restroom?
Perhaps only ignorant.
She rises to the level of bigot when she kicks the shit out of said lady.
| 837 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:18:28am |
re: #428 Shropshire_Slasher
Anyones privacy
Well, if it’s ‘anyone’s privacy’, then why should I have to tolerate any other woman in the bathroom with me, trans or original plumbing? Don’t I have a right to privacy?
It’s not different. A trans woman isn’t a straight man dressing up to get a thrill from using the ladies’ room. She’s a woman who needs to use the restroom.
| 838 |
SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:21:37am |
re: #434 WindUpBird
Sorry man I have over a dozen friends who are trans and genderqueer within 3 hours of me. Who have weathered the storms of abuse and nastiness by their fellow man since they were teenagers. usually before.
I have heard the TG bathroom meme come up hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundreds
and hundredsof times.
You are not original, you are not clever, you are not wise, you are not new or novel. You are just another vessel repeating a talking point. I’ve been hearing it since I was a teenager.
Maybe its the caveman desire to protect women’s honor against evil male Interloper, who is a Deviant. But whatever it is, it’s nonsense.
it’s usually conservatives that bring it up, often older conservatives, and it’s NEVER people with trans friends and acquaitances who bring it up.
The thing about the bathroom thing is, unless we’re at the LGBT Community Center or something (the LGBTCC bathrooms have detailed signs on the doors discussing trans issues), I figure if you’re trans and I can tell you didn’t always used to be a woman, better you come into the women’s room, because the men’s room could be dangerous FOR YOU.
I hadn’t considered until this week that the women’s room could be equally dangerous.
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