Law Firm Partner Resigns, Will Continue Defending DOMA

‘Lawyers must defend unpopular causes’

PoliticsApril 2011 • Views: 27,251

One of the partners in the law firm that just pulled out of the DOMA case, Paul Clement, has resigned, and will continue pursuing the case because he says lawyers should defend “unpopular causes.”

Which is indeed a noble principle, when applied to causes like ending slavery, for example, or fighting for civil rights for African Americans. Fighting for an unpopular cause in the name of justice is one of the loftiest goals a lawyer can aim for.

When applied to the “Defense Of Marriage Act,” though, the word “unpopular” is a distorted rationalization. The objections to this bigoted piece of legislation have nothing to do with its popularity. In fact, DOMA is very popular with the religious fundamentalists who inspired it in the first place.

Let’s say it like it is: the sole reason for the existence of DOMA is to deprive American citizens of rights. And there’s nothing noble about defending that.

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118 comments

jamesfirecat Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:32:55am

So its now just one guy? On his own? Anybody else getting Black Knight flashbacks?

HAVE AT YOU!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:33:15am

Who’s gonna play Paul in the movie?

Targetpractice Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:34:33am

I’m sure there were a lot of lawyers who felt the same way during the 60s, finding themselves defending Jim Crow and segregation when they were becoming increasingly “unpopular.”

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:34:39am

Right. Paul D. Clement is “non-partisan”.

What, me worry? Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:34:43am

Well put, Charles!

It’s also, as the article says, unAmerican and I agree with that, too.

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:35:03am

re: #1 jamesfirecat

So its now just one guy? On his own? Anybody else getting Black Knight flashbacks?

HAVE AT YOU!

He has, apparently, moved to another law firm that doesn’t have concerns about taking this case.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:35:03am

re: #1 jamesfirecat

So its now just one guy? On his own? Anybody else getting Black Knight flashbacks?

HAVE AT YOU!

More of a Falling Down vibe.

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:35:08am

Tightwad too:

CLEMENT, PAUL D
ALEXANDRIA, VA 22314
KISG & SPALDING

REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE
11/01/2000 500.00 20036561077

CLEMENT, PAUL D MR.
ALEXANDRIA, VA 22314
UNITED STATES DEP’T OF JUSTICE/AT

BUSH, GEORGE W
VIA BUSH-CHENEY ‘04 (PRIMARY) INC
08/31/2004 2000.00 24971488411

Total Contributions: 2500.00

Kragar (Antichrist ) Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:35:27am

re: #6 Simply Sarah

He has, apparently, moved to another law firm that doesn’t have concerns about taking this case.

They get paid win or lose, right?

Jeff In Ohio Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:35:31am

My feet smell, who is courageous enough to step up and defend their odor?

Kronocide Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:35:59am

……and will continue pursuing the case because he says lawyers should ~~defend “unpopular causes.”~~take on very lucrative cases.

There is big money behind this.

Why I Never! Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:36:06am

re: #10 Jeff In Ohio

My feet smell, who is courageous enough to step up and defend their odor?

Can we spell it with a u? ;)

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:36:15am

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I’m sure there were a lot of lawyers who felt the same way during the 60s, finding themselves defending Jim Crow and segregation when they were becoming increasingly “unpopular.”

Well, the thing is, a government lawyer *does* need to represent the State (Or resign). This is a private law firm and a private lawyer. They can, for the most part, pick cases, especially of this sort.

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:37:20am

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They get paid win or lose, right?

Damn right they do. There’s no civil reward riches to take a cut of for winning here.

Targetpractice Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:38:16am

re: #13 Simply Sarah

Well, the thing is, a government lawyer *does* need to represent the State (Or resign). This is a private law firm and a private lawyer. They can, for the most part, pick cases, especially of this sort.

True enough, which leads me to believe this fellow considers defending DOMA “unpopular” because he’s every bit the bigot that the GOP is appearing. Or, then again, it could be because he sees a fat paycheck out of it and is simply attempting to blow smoke up our collective asses.

Jeff In Ohio Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:39:36am

re: #12 iceweasel

Can we spell it with a u? ;)

Damn Brits have gotten to you.

garhighway Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:39:51am

Good afternoon from sunny London, folks. (I’m here for a couple of days on business.)

As was noted in the earlier thread, I am sure that the lawyers inside K & S went crazy when they saw that they were taking on the defense of DOMA. Big law firm politics can be pretty hairy, and I’ll bet this was a real donnybrook.

I appreciate Clement’s view, but there is no enshrined constitutional right for bigoted laws to have the best SCOTUS advocates in the land (he’s one of the top six or so). But give DOMA’s advocates points for being observant, if nothing else: they saw what Boies and Olsen did to Prop 8 and they got religion (no pun intended) about getting the best lawyer they could find. No more politically-correct but legally-weak lawyers for them!

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:40:23am

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who’s gonna play Paul in the movie?

Let’s see…

Paul D. Clement… I’d recommend Steven Seagal. They both probably have the same emotional depth. Just throw some glasses on Seagal.

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:40:40am

re: #15 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

True enough, which leads me to believe this fellow considers defending DOMA “unpopular” because he’s every bit the bigot that the GOP is appearing. Or, then again, it could be because he sees a fat paycheck out of it and is simply attempting to blow smoke up our collective asses.

There are several possible reasons for why he decided to take the case to start with and take this step now. I can’t say for sure which one or ones drove these choices. At the end of the day, however, he’s doing it and that’s mostly what matters here.

Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:40:43am

re: #15 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

True enough, which leads me to believe this fellow considers defending DOMA “unpopular” because he’s every bit the bigot that the GOP is appearing. Or, then again, it could be because he sees a fat paycheck out of it and is simply attempting to blow smoke up our collective asses.

A gigantic paycheck, in fact.

BishopX Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:40:56am

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand DOMA is an offensive piece of law that should be taken out back and set on fire, but on the other hand the US is uses an adversarial justice system, and attacking lawyers and law firms that defend wrong, evil pieces of shit weakens the system.

I feel that attacking lawyers for who their clients are is out of line.

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:41:34am

re: #20 Charles

A gigantic paycheck, in fact.

Taxpayer funded, at that!

Targetpractice Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:42:17am

re: #20 Charles

A gigantic paycheck, in fact.

And we’re paying for it, win or lose. Yay. *rolls eyes*

garhighway Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:43:08am

re: #20 Charles

A gigantic paycheck, in fact.

Remembering the fees thread from last week, I seem to recall that he was getting less than he usually does. This guy is top shelf: he has all the work he needs, and I am absolutely positive that his private clients pay more than what he is charging the GOP.

It is very unlikely that this is about the money.

jamesfirecat Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:43:23am

re: #23 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And we’re paying for it, win or lose. Yay. *rolls eyes*

Wonder if his new firm bills the same as his old firm in regards to this case….

Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:44:04am

re: #21 BishopX

I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand DOMA is an offensive piece of law that should be taken out back and set on fire, but on the other hand the US is uses an adversarial justice system, and attacking lawyers and law firms that defend wrong, evil pieces of shit weakens the system.

I feel that attacking lawyers for who their clients are is out of line.

I’m not attacking the lawyer - I’m attacking his rationalization for choosing to defend DOMA.

This case is different from a criminal case where even the lowest POS must and should have representation. Clement is defending an unjust law, not a person. And his rationalization is crap.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:45:02am

re: #24 garhighway

Remembering the fees thread from last week, I seem to recall that he was getting less than he usually does. This guy is top shelf: he has all the work he needs, and I am absolutely positive that his private clients pay more than what he is charging the GOP.

It is very unlikely that this is about the money.

You wonder about people who want to go down in history, on the wrong side of it

I hope whatever he’s been given to do this, hope it’s worth it

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:45:34am

re: #23 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And we’re paying for it, win or lose. Yay. *rolls eyes*

Cost is no object for the Homophobic Agenda.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:46:14am

How any thinking human being in the USA can not understand that gay people WILL eventually be equal under the law

I’ll never understand

I’ll never understand someone for whom their career involves dehumanizng people

Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:47:51am

We have another fake outrage brewing:

[Link: www.google.com…]

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:48:56am

re: #30 Charles

We have another fake outrage brewing:

[Link: www.google.com…]

Aye. From the usual suspects I see.

Targetpractice Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:49:26am

re: #30 Charles

We have another fake outrage brewing:

[Link: www.google.com…]

“He’s not being sufficiently Christian! IMPEACH!”

Kragar (Antichrist ) Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:49:54am

re: #30 Charles

We have another fake outrage brewing:

[Link: www.google.com…]

Oh for fuck’s sake.

BishopX Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:50:23am

re: #26 Charles

I’m not attacking the lawyer - I’m attacking his rationalization for choosing to defend DOMA.

This case is different from a criminal case where even the lowest POS must and should have representation. Clement is defending an unjust law, not a person. And his rationalization is crap.

Yes his rationalization is crap, and yes it’s not a criminal case where there is someone who has a right to be represented. I still feel though that a win by default on these cases is not a good thing. It makes for bad law.

jamesfirecat Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:50:37am

re: #30 Charles

We have another fake outrage brewing:

[Link: www.google.com…]

Now we see the violence inherent in the system!

lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:50:43am

re: #1 jamesfirecat

It would seem that way, except that a major partner at a large firm like K&S would likely have junior associates who will go with him in his practice group. He was the head of the appellate practice group in DC, which means that some of those juniors at the group might split with Clement, or stay on with whoever is replacing him (opening up new opportunities).

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:51:02am

They need to get a life. A president is not a spiritual or religious leader. This isn’t Iran.

lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:51:20am

re: #30 Charles

So wait… Obama’s Jewish? ///

Why I Never! Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:52:06am

re: #37 Gus 802

They need to get a life. A president is not a spiritual or religious leader. This isn’t Iran.

That started getting conflated at least during the Bush years, when criticism of Bush was designated as criticising America.

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:52:13am

re: #29 WindUpBird

How any thinking human being in the USA can not understand that gay people WILL eventually be equal under the law

I’ll never understand

I’ll never understand someone for whom their career involves dehumanizng people

Well, I agree with the latter part of your statement. On the former, well, there’s reason for them to feel that they can still win, despite how things look now. For example, at the time of Roe v. Wade, there was some thinking that anti-abortion feelings were on their way out, so it was just a natural step on that part. Look where we are now on abortions and reproductive rights.

Another is capital punishment In the early 70s it was also thought by many people to be dying out. The Supreme Court stopped executions for 4 years from 1972 to 1976…after which the use of capital punishment started to jump to levels far above where they had been prior to them being stopped. It was back with new support. Now, most states still have the death penalty still on the books (Even if they rarely/never use it), even though almost every other country in the world has outlawed it. Even Russia doesn’t do executions anymore. And yet, it still enjoys strong public support in the U.S.

No, they’re not fighting back because they think they’re doing it in vain. They’re fighting back because they still think they can win.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:52:34am

re: #30 Charles

Oh, fudge. I didn’t need him to proclaim a dang thing. That’s the beauty of having my personal faith.

Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:53:09am

re: #30 Charles

We have another fake outrage brewing:

[Link: www.google.com…]

Bunnygate

Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:53:22am

re: #34 BishopX

Yes his rationalization is crap, and yes it’s not a criminal case where there is someone who has a right to be represented. I still feel though that a win by default on these cases is not a good thing. It makes for bad law.

I disagree — the bad law is already there. A win by default is the best thing that can happen, short of repealing the bad law.

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:53:55am

Was this not enough?

Easter Prayer Breakfast | The White House

Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:54:18am

re: #44 Gus 802

Was this not enough?

Easter Prayer Breakfast | The White House

Of course not. It wasn’t a proclamation.

Charles Johnson Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:54:28am

Obama must proclaim.

iossarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:54:33am

re: #44 Gus 802

Was this not enough?

Easter Prayer Breakfast | The White House

Nope. Not until we see the long-form prayer breakfast!

Kragar (Antichrist ) Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:54:35am

re: #44 Gus 802

Was this not enough?

Easter Prayer Breakfast | The White House

Is that the official state form?
/

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:55:20am

re: #46 Charles

Obama must proclaim.

I see. So they expected a “Fatwah” from the president. /

Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:56:04am

Let’s say it like it is: the sole reason for the existence of DOMA is to deprive American citizens of rights. And there’s nothing noble about defending that.

EXACTLY.

There is no legitimate reason to deny gays and lesbians the right to marry. The only objections are religious ones, and that’s not a good enough reason to deny someone their rights.

Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:56:04am

re: #30 Charles

We have another fake outrage brewing:

[Link: www.google.com…]

Instead of observing the Christian holiday Obama spent the day communing with some pagan fertility symbol.
[Link: www.daylife.com…]

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:56:34am

re: #46 Charles

He’s a Proclaimer?

Funny. Doesn’t look like a Proclaimer.

Petero1818 Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:56:45am

This happens all the time in law firms. A lawyer brings in a big client or large file. The firm cannot work on the file due to a conflict (more common) or a philosophical opposition to the client or file. Lawyer takes the file to a new firm and at the same time carves him or herself a really nice partnership deal and or signing bonus for bringing the file with him. There is nothing wrong with it, regardless of how you feel about the particular legislation. I think the lawyer’s point about lawyers taking unpopular cases is fine, and that explains why his firm dropped it. I don’t think he is saying the only reason he took the case or file was because it was unpopular, I think he objects to his firm dropping it because it is unpopular. That is a worthwhile debate (not really in this circumstance IMHO, but perhaps for others) and I have no issue with this. Lawyers don’t bring claims of this sort. Clients do.

iossarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:56:54am

re: #49 Gus 802

I see. So they expected a “Fatwah” from the president. /

I would love to watch the heads explode in the parallel universe where Obama has declared himself the head of the American Church, and made all other forms of Christian communion illegal.

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:57:03am

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Instead of observing the Christian holiday Obama spent the day communing with some pagan fertility symbol.
[Link: www.daylife.com…]

OMG! It’s the sexual perversion of furries in bunny form!!11ty

//Wingnut

Targetpractice Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:57:20am

re: #55 Gus 802

OMG! It’s the sexual perversion of furries in bunny form!!11ty

//Wingnut

Stone him!

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:57:25am

re: #40 Simply Sarah

well, maybe they will win in the sense that there will be no-man’s lands for queers in the south and in strongholds where the corruption is too great

I guess when a state is hostile enough to equal rights, equal rights on paper means little

Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:57:55am

re: #44 Gus 802

Was this not enough?

Easter Prayer Breakfast | The White House

He also mentions passover and easter in his weekly address.
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov…]

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:58:17am

re: #56 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Stone him!

//

I’m telling you. The wingnuts should start building minarets complete with loudspeakers.

wrenchwench Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:58:18am

re: #46 Charles

Obama must proclaim.

Youtube Video

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:58:41am

re: #51 Killgore Trout

Hey! Ain’t that the same bunny that they use on Hamas TV?

Seekrit Mooslim!

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:58:46am

re: #57 WindUpBird

well, maybe they will win in the sense that there will be no-man’s lands for queers in the south and in strongholds where the corruption is too great

I guess when a state is hostile enough to equal rights, equal rights on paper means little

Oh, it’s deplorable, for sure. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a chance of working, though.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:59:19am

re: #55 Gus 802

OMG! It’s the sexual perversion of furries in bunny form!!11ty

//Wingnut

WE ARE EVERYWHERE

_{which is actually more true than you think, if everyone in the fandom decided to sabotage their IT workplaces, colos, and various internet infrastructure, apple, google, it’d be pretty breathtaking}

Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:59:23am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He’s a Proclaimer?

Funny. Doesn’t look like a Proclaimer.

It’s Monday and I am already on campus when I didn’t have to be. The LAST thing I want is to hear that damned song again. I’ll get radio flashbacks. Ugh.

wrenchwench Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:59:36am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He’s a Proclaimer?

Funny. Doesn’t look like a Proclaimer.

Yours was first, but mine has hamsters.

Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:59:41am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He’s a Proclaimer?

Funny. Doesn’t look like a Proclaimer.

I blame everything for your joke yesterday!!!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 10:59:45am

re: #60 wrenchwench

Beatcha!

Why I Never! Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:00:09am

re: #55 Gus 802

OMG! It’s the sexual perversion of furries in bunny form!!11ty

//Wingnut

Youtube Video

Let’s Pretend We’re Bunny Rabbits

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:01:04am

George W. Bush — 2008 Proclamations

OK, someone find me they Easter proclamation. It appears to be “missing”.

wrenchwench Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:01:33am

re: #64 Lidane

It’s Monday and I am already on campus when I didn’t have to be. The LAST thing I want is to hear that damned song again. I’ll get radio flashbacks. Ugh.

Definitely don’t listen to the hamster version, then.

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:01:52am

re: #69 Gus 802

George W. Bush — 2008 Proclamations

OK, someone find me they Easter proclamation. It appears to be “missing”.

2007…

[Link: www.presidency.ucsb.edu…]

Again, nothing.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:02:14am

re: #62 Simply Sarah

Oh, it’s deplorable, for sure. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a chance of working, though.

well, that’s what I mean, that it’s immaterial. If a state is ginned up to hate, rights mean nothing. What good are rights when you have a target on your back? queers and TGs, move to the west coast, bring your salaries and your expertise with you

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:02:37am

2002…

Right after 9/11…

[Link: www.presidency.ucsb.edu…]

Zero. Zilch.

Kronocide Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:02:53am

These incidents should be called ‘Foxrage’ or ‘Fauxrage.’

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:03:06am

re: #55 Gus 802

man I liked the bunny better when it was wearing that cute outfit

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:04:16am

1986…

Ronald W. Reagan

[Link: www.presidency.ucsb.edu…]

Ronald Reagan April 7, 1986 Proclamation 5454 - World Health Week and World Health Day, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 7, 1986 Proclamation 5455 - Cancer Control Month, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 7, 1986 Proclamation 5456 - National Organ and Tissue Donor Awareness Week, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 10, 1986 Proclamation 5457 - Centennial Year of the Gasoline Powered Automobile, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 11, 1986 Proclamation 5458 - To Designate Aruba as a Beneficiary Country for Purposes of the Generalized System of Preferences and the Caribbean Basin Recovery Act
Ronald Reagan April 14, 1986 Proclamation 5459 - Pan American Day and Pan American Week, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 16, 1986 Proclamation 5460 - Law Day U.S.A., 1986
Ronald Reagan April 17, 1986 Proclamation 5461 - National Mathematics Awareness Week, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 18, 1986 Proclamation 5462 - National Garden Week, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 19, 1986 Proclamation 5463 - Education Day, U.S.A., 1986
Ronald Reagan April 22, 1986 Proclamation 5464 - National School Library Month, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 22, 1986 Proclamation 5465 - Asian/Pacific American Heritage Week, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 22, 1986 Proclamation 5466 - Mother’s Day, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 22, 1986 Proclamation 5467 - Father’s Day, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 23, 1986 Proclamation 5468 - Older Americans Month, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 24, 1986 Proclamation 5469 - National Reading Is Fun Week, 1986
Ronald Reagan April 30, 1986 Proclamation 5470 - Fair Housing Month, 1986

No Easter proclamation.

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:07:01am

In fact. Googling “easter proclamation” site:*.gov reveals nothing. Neither does “easter proclamation” site:*.mil.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:07:04am

re: #66 Stanley Sea

I’ve been dodging lightning bolts since the minute I posted it.

iossarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:07:07am

re: #76 Gus 802

1986…

Ronald W. Reagan

[Link: www.presidency.ucsb.edu…]

No Easter proclamation.

Yeah, but Reagan wasn’t black, was he?

Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:07:21am

re: #75 WindUpBird

man I liked the bunny better when it was wearing that cute outfit

That bunny is downright creepy. That’s the outrage.

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:08:06am

re: #72 WindUpBird

well, that’s what I mean, that it’s immaterial. If a state is ginned up to hate, rights mean nothing. What good are rights when you have a target on your back? queers and TGs, move to the west coast, bring your salaries and your expertise with you

We may not be perfect in the northeast here, but I don’t think we all need to move west…

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:08:15am

re: #80 Stanley Sea

That bunny is downright creepy. That’s the outrage.

those eyes really do give one the creeps

Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:08:33am

re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I’ve been dodging lightning bolts since the minute I posted it.

lol, I loved it and repeated it to a large group. We’re still around today, so it’s cool.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:09:08am

re: #80 Stanley Sea

That bunny is downright creepy. That’s the outrage.

Shudder…

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:09:22am

re: #81 Simply Sarah

We may not be perfect in the northeast here, but I don’t think we all need to move west…

haha You know what I mean, move from a place that’s hostile to a place that isn’t ;-)

I’m partial to the west coast though ^^

Simply Sarah Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:10:15am

re: #85 WindUpBird

haha You know what I mean, move from a place that’s hostile to a place that isn’t ;-)

I’m partial to the west coast though ^^

You? Biased in favor of the west coast? I never would have guessed… ;)

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:11:10am

re: #86 Simply Sarah

You? Biased in favor of the west coast? I never would have guessed… ;)

teehee

Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:11:18am

Wingnuts are also outraged by this….The Blaze: Obama’s Easter Sunday Pastor Rails Against Racist Talk Radio
He specifically mentions Rush Limbaugh (whose history of racism got him blocked from owning an NFL team) and Fox (where you can learn about Obama’s war on “White Culture”)

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:12:23am

Meanwhile, searching Easter and proclamation at the GWB White House archives reveals about the same as Obama. Lots of Easter Egg Rolls. It show that Bush made Easter Greetings but no official proclamations as I indicated above. Bush did so in one case on April 13, 2001 which was not Easter Sunday.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:12:29am

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Limbaugh’s football failures, that’s gotta sting

All the money in the world, and he can’t get an NFL team

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:12:35am

re: #51 Killgore Trout

We’ll need to get the “Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch”.

Now, we shall read from the Book of Armaments.

Kragar (Antichrist ) Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:12:39am

re: #88 Killgore Trout

(where you can learn about Obama’s war on “White Culture”)

Why does Obama hate mayonaise, white bread and lutefisk?

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:12:46am

It’s like shooting ducks at an arcade.

Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:13:17am

Cling. Down. Cling. Down. Cling. Down.

Wingnuts. It’s like competing with the 3rd trackers in 5th grade.

jamesfirecat Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:13:29am

re: #93 Gus 802

It’s like shooting ducks at an arcade.

You mean if you miss a dog laughs at you?

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:14:49am

And the LORD spake, saying, “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.” Amen.

jaunte Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:15:12am

re: #89 Gus 802

Millions across the country were disappointed yesterday when they failed to find the usual White House Easter proclamation hidden inside a brightly colored rabbit egg.

iossarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:15:18am

re: #90 WindUpBird

Limbaugh’s football failures, that’s gotta sting

All the money in the world, and he can’t get an NFL team

It’s a real shame. I was looking forward to a cellar-dwelling all-Utah NFL team.

(No offense, sane Utahians!)

Stanley Sea Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:15:19am

Graham, the son of Rev. Billy Graham who has served as a spiritual adviser to several presidents with his father, said on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday that Obama “has some issues to deal with” when it comes to his birth certificate.

“It’s interesting that a minister would [use] Easter Sunday to make preposterous charges,” White House press secretary Jay Carney responded Monday.

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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:15:38am

…and also this comment from a Fox reader…

Liberation Theology=Liberating You of Your Money and Property!!!

Fox has been pushing the idea that social justice is a communist plot.

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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:16:22am

re: #97 jaunte

Millions across the country were disappointed yesterday when they failed to find the usual White House Easter proclamation hidden inside a brightly colored rabbit egg.

Woot! And you know what was the truth across most of America? It was just another holiday or excuse to eat like a pig (which is pretty gosh darn fun sometimes) and, get drunk. Yep.

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lawhawk Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:17:19am

re: #96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fire in the Hole!

Youtube Video

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martinsmithy Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:18:19am

Paul Clement now joins the list of right-wing “martyrs” for unpopular causes.

Right up there with “the other McCain” and other “luminaries.”

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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:18:24am

re: #101 Gus 802

Woot! And you know what was the truth across most of America? It was just another holiday or excuse to eat like a pig (which is pretty gosh darn fun sometimes) and, get drunk. Yep.

After going to church. ;)

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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:21:13am

Lovely comments from Glenn Beck fans as well….
Obama’s Easter Sunday Pastor Rails Against Racist Talk Radio (Compares Rush to KKK!)

New movie predicts America‘s race problem’s, THE BIRTH OF A NATION
OK the movie is not that new its a 100 years old, but still excellent !
You can watch it on – hulu
ENJOY !
…..
Abe Lincoln said it best… Send them back or watch them destroy civilization. Paraphrasing of course but pretty close.
….
It appears Obama finally found his type so-called church (Whites haters.)

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Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:21:35am

Shocka! NBC didn’t raise a peep when The Donald started whoring his POTUS ambitions on his “reality” show:

[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

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Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:22:54am

OK the movie is not that new its a 100 years old, but still excellent !

Anyone who says this about Birth of a Nation without any irony or sarcasm is a person worthy of contempt.

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Killgore Trout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:23:25am

re: #105 Killgore Trout

another one….

I would like to take this opportunity to invite all Africans to go back to Africa, All Mexicans to go back to Mexico, and all of you others who do not want to take pride in Everyone’s America as Americans counting your blessings for being able to participate and be productive in the best system on the planet, to go back where you came from…

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Kronocide Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:23:36am

Realize that they will invoke the Kyl Klause: they weren’t speaking literally about a Proclamation, only that Obama didn’t proclaim anything about Easter…. LOL.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:23:59am

The animal from the McDonalds’ has been arrested for assault at the same place.

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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:24:38am

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Lovely comments from Glenn Beck fans as well…
Obama’s Easter Sunday Pastor Rails Against Racist Talk Radio (Compares Rush to KKK!)

New movie predicts America‘s race problem’s, THE BIRTH OF A NATION
OK the movie is not that new its a 100 years old, but still excellent !
You can watch it on – hulu
ENJOY !
…
Abe Lincoln said it best… Send them back or watch them destroy civilization. Paraphrasing of course but pretty close.
…
It appears Obama finally found his type so-called church (Whites haters.)

Nothing like proving the pastor to be correct. Tough shit for the Beck fans. “They are blind and cannot see.”

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:25:09am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Everyone’s America

I don’t think that word means what the writer thinks that word means.

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Targetpractice Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:25:20am

re: #108 Killgore Trout

another one…

And I’d like to take this opportunity to invite jackholes like that to return to Europe and allow the Indians to take back their country.

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Gus Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:26:26am

Back later.

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Lidane Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:29:08am

I would like to take this opportunity to invite all Africans to go back to Africa, All Mexicans to go back to Mexico, and all of you others who do not want to take pride in Everyone’s America as Americans counting your blessings for being able to participate and be productive in the best system on the planet, to go back where you came from…

Dear Bigot—

I’d consider going back, but the part of Mexico I’m from got annexed by the US back in 1845. Guess you’re stuck with me. Oops.

No love,
Me

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reine.de.tout Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:35:00am

re: #37 Gus 802

They need to get a life. A president is not a spiritual or religious leader. This isn’t Iran.

No, but it’s just proof … of something … not good - or something.

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APox Mon, Apr 25, 2011 11:46:10am

God, I started reading the Fox New nation comments..

Why… Why did I do it..

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