Video: Pat Buchanan: Obama is 'Affirmative Action All the Way'

Video: Pat Buchanan: Obama is ‘Affirmative Action All the Way’

Why is this bigoted turd still on TV?

PoliticsApril 2011 • Views: 41,829

Donald Trump continues to go full-bore whacko; now he’s suggesting that Barack Obama was only admitted to Harvard because of affirmative action. And he goes further, hinting that Obama has a shady past and that nobody actually knew him. He’s a mysterious “other,” with a phony paper trail and nefarious intentions. Good grief.

This pleased racist reptile Pat Buchanan so much, it put him in a jolly mood for this segment with Chris Matthews.

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theheat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:00:35pm

Pat doesn’t look any happier than usual. He looks typical Pat: heady eyed, constipated, pinched, like he sat on a porcupine.

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:00:38pm

This will be very cool with “the blacks”.

Fuck Donald Trump.

theheat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:01:06pm

re: #1 theheat

PIMF - beady eyed.

Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:01:28pm

I love how a guy who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law is somehow an idiot who only got by due to affirmative action. I didn’t know Harvard was in the business of giving out charity law degrees.

windsagio Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:01:38pm

is his head he sees this being a political winner.

Morality never mattered much to him >>

recusancy Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:02:05pm

re: #4 Lidane

I love how a guy who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law is somehow an idiot who only got by due to affirmative action. I didn’t know Harvard was in the business of giving out charity law degrees.

But we need to see his school records!! //

Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:02:26pm

re: #1 theheat

Pat doesn’t look any happier than usual. He looks typical Pat: heady eyed, constipated, pinched, like he sat on a porcupine.

His sister isn’t much better. She always looks like that, and like she’s smelled something unpleasant.

Charles Johnson Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:03:59pm

re: #1 theheat

Pat doesn’t look any happier than usual. He looks typical Pat: heady eyed, constipated, pinched, like he sat on a porcupine.

Well, he did break out in laughter several times… seemed to be very amused by the direction of the conversation.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:04:03pm

I have this sudden image of Lucius Malfoy saying “Then why don’t you prove it.”

Forgive me.

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:14pm

re: #4 Lidane

I love how a guy who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law is somehow an idiot who only got by due to affirmative action. I didn’t know Harvard was in the business of giving out charity law degrees.

Don’t you get it? Obama was supposed to have a rich daddy like Donald Trump. That is what real merit is in real America.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:24pm

Although, really, Buchanan would make a very interesting ferret.

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:31pm

it’s my understanding that BO’s years in that time are not public knowledge…is there proof one way or the other regarding AA?

Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:44pm

re: #6 recusancy

But we need to see his school records!! //

And he was supposedly a terrible student. So terrible, in fact, that he was able to transfer to Columbia and then get into Harvard Law.

If that’s a terrible student, I wonder what a good one is. =P

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:05:54pm

re: #7 Lidane

His sister isn’t much better. She always looks like that, and like she’s smelled something unpleasant.

His sister looks like him. That’s really all you had to say.

darthstar Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:06:16pm

Why is this bigoted turd still on TV?

America loves bigots!
/(I wish this was sarc)

windsagio Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:06:49pm

re: #15 darthstar

only parts of it >>

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:06:50pm

re: #4 Lidane

I love how a guy who graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law is somehow an idiot who only got by due to affirmative action. I didn’t know Harvard was in the business of giving out charity law degrees.

I don’t think AA gets you by, it allows the circumstance of admittance…am I missing something?

darthstar Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:07:12pm

re: #16 windsagio

only parts of it >>

They’re the ones who get on TV.

wrenchwench Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:07:21pm

As a lizard, I take offense to Buchanan being referred to as a “reptile”. I would prefer “bacterium” or something along that line.

darthstar Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:07:39pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

As a lizard, I take offense to Buchanan being referred to as a “reptile”. I would prefer “bacterium” or something along that line.

fecal fungus?

wrenchwench Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:08:09pm

re: #20 darthstar

fecal fungus?

There we go.

Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:08:29pm

re: #17 albusteve

I don’t think AA gets you by, it allows the circumstance of admittance…am I missing something?

Yeah — you’re missing the abject racism in the statement that Obama is an affirmative action baby that only got where he is due to handouts.

The implication is that Columbia and Harvard gave him his degrees because he’s black, not because he actually earned them.

zora Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:08:33pm

re: #12 albusteve

it’s my understanding that BO’s years in that time are not public knowledge…is there proof one way or the other regarding AA?

yes, the question must be asked. i mean the guy is black. how far could he have gotten on his own merit. /

theheat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:08:41pm

re: #8 Charles

He’s an absolute blast when klukkers play charades. A real card. A cut up. A cad.
//

This kind of youthful enthusiasm keeps him looking less embalmed.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:09:06pm

re: #17 albusteve

I don’t think AA gets you by, it allows the circumstance of admittance…am I missing something?

He did more than “get by,” he was editor of the Law Review.

AlexRogan Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:09:52pm

re: #20 darthstar

fecal fungus?

How about “racist, bigoted shitheel”?

HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:09:58pm

Pat Buchanan is talking about shady pasts? Okay, Mr. fascist sympathizer.

General Nimrod Bodfish Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:10:08pm

re: #20 darthstar

Great, now you’ve offended all fecal fungi out there. APOLOGIZE NOW!

goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:10:24pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

As a lizard, I take offense to Buchanan being referred to as a “reptile”. I would prefer “bacterium” or something along that line.

Prion, Pat always reminded me of a mis-folded protein.

jaunte Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:10:48pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

As a lizard, I take offense to Buchanan being referred to as a “reptile”. I would prefer “bacterium” or something along that line.

Excrescence?

Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:11:00pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

He did more than “get by,” he was editor of the Law Review.

But he’s a black man! Everyone knows that blacks and other minorities can’t possibly become editors of the Harvard Law Review, or even get into the Ivy League. Clearly, they’re just charity cases that were given their degrees out of pity, not merit.

///

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:11:03pm

re: #22 Lidane

Yeah — you’re missing the abject racism in the statement that Obama is an affirmative action baby that only got where he is due to handouts.

The implication is that Columbia and Harvard gave him his degrees because he’s black, not because he actually earned them.

that was not my question, and I don’t really care what PB implicates…the question is did BO have the benefit of AA behind him…it’s no sin, just trying to clear away the shit clouding the subject….I asked the same of Trump, where did he get his info and will he back up the claims he made

HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:11:35pm

No race baiting here by Pat. None at all. Typical.

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:12:01pm

This kind of crap makes my heart ache… seriously. I can’t find it funny as much as I’d like to so I could make it go away.

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:12:19pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

He did more than “get by,” he was editor of the Law Review.

you’re responding to the wrong post

windsagio Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:12:21pm

re: #32 albusteve

I’m just asking questions!

Lol, slip showing :p

ProBosniaLiberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:12:58pm

Qaddafi is committing fraud against his mercenaries now:

#Gaddafi is even tricking his mercenaries: he paid some of his merc with two forged 10 Dinar notes strapped with an elastic band 2 a pile of newspaper cut to size of bank notes to look like a wad of money. they promised them 5000 dinar to fight & this is what he gave them

Though this is probably the most minor crime he has done.

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:13:55pm

re: #12 albusteve

it’s my understanding that BO’s years in that time are not public knowledge…is there proof one way or the other regarding AA?

I don’t see how you could prove it either way. Not for him or any other black student who went to a mostly white college. And so what if he was? Given the time I’m sure Harvard did want more black students, to make up for lost time and lack of black students. They were certainly actively recruiting black students to attend Princeton when my father went back in the early 1970s. A lot of schools were going all over the country looking for the smartest black kids they could find. To this day HBCUs are in fierce competition with Ivy League schools for black National Merit Scholars who used to go to them because they had no other choice. Harvard hit the jackpot. One of theirs became the first black president. If AA was involved I doubt Havard is lamenting whatever white student they lost.

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:14:17pm

re: #36 windsagio

Lol, slip showing :p

these questions are directed at BO’s critics…I don’t care so much….you are not following

goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:14:27pm

re: #35 albusteve

you’re responding to the wrong post

No I wasn’t. Keep asking questions Steve, pretend you’re fooling anyone.

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:14:52pm

re: #17 albusteve

I don’t think AA gets you by, it allows the circumstance of admittance…am I missing something?

No you aren’t. AA was designed to create access that wasn’t there historically, but it damn sure won’t keep you there.

windsagio Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:15:09pm

re: #39 albusteve

mmhmm.

Like I said the other day, I missed you man :D

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:17:17pm

re: #41 moderatelyradicalliberal

No you aren’t. AA was designed to create access that wasn’t there historically, but it damn sure won’t keep you there.

No, it won’t. I had a number of AA students in my 101 classes who were behind many of the others since they didn’t have the benefit of the same quality and level of education offered to the more affluent students. They either caught up or they dropped out. Most caught up and excelled.

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:17:22pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

No I wasn’t. Keep asking questions Steve, pretend you’re fooling anyone.

more stupid pills frank?…go back and start over and maybe you will catch on…here’s a hint, if pundits are criticizing BO’s education, his smarts and his benefit from AA then they need to back it up…so I ask, where is the proof?….get it now?

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:18:26pm

re: #41 moderatelyradicalliberal

No you aren’t. AA was designed to create access that wasn’t there historically, but it damn sure won’t keep you there.

I know what it is…you folks are having some trouble here?

wrenchwench Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:19:04pm

What other president, already seated mind you, has ever had his college grades become an issue? And Buchanan defends this bullshit as “a legitimate questions”.

wrenchwench Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:20:07pm

re: #45 albusteve

I know what it is…you folks are having some trouble here?

She said you’re not missing anything. Let her agree with you, don’t give her a hard time for it.

engineer cat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:21:08pm

obama went to a prep school, and started college at occidental college before transferring to columbia

he then worked at Business International Corporation, the New York Public Interest Research Group, and then became director of the Developing Communities Project and also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, before going to law school

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:21:16pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

She said you’re not missing anything. Let her agree with you, don’t give her a hard time for it.

I saw that and now recant…my bad

researchok Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:21:25pm

This is on MSNBC.

There is no reason for him to be on that network= or any other.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:22:36pm

re: #48 engineer dog

obama went to a prep school, and started college at occidental college before transferring to columbia

he then worked at Business International Corporation, the New York Public Interest Research Group, and then became director of the Developing Communities Project and also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, before going to law school

Yes, but did he split any rails or kill him a b’ar when he was only 3?

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:23:23pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

Yes, but did he split any rails or kill him a b’ar when he was only 3?

You owe me a keyboard for that.

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:23:26pm

re: #45 albusteve

I know what it is…you folks are having some trouble here?

I was agreeing with you.

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:24:08pm

re: #53 moderatelyradicalliberal

I was agreeing with you.

I messed up for a second

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:24:30pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

Yes, but did he split any rails or kill him a b’ar when he was only 3?

LOL! Now my screen is covered in Coke.

moderatelyradicalliberal Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:24:50pm

re: #54 albusteve

I messed up for a second

No problem.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:25:40pm

re: #50 researchok

This is on MSNBC.

There is no reason for him to be on that network= or any other.

Pat is the racist uncle at MSNBC’s Thanksgiving dinner table. They invite him so they can roll their eyes and have something to laugh about while cleaning up and doing the dishes. It’s fucking annoying, but there it is.

Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:26:47pm

I’ll bet affirmative action helped him with his grades, and the election too. ///

*sigh*

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:26:53pm

re: #37 ProLifeLiberal

Qaddafi is committing fraud against his mercenaries now:

Though this is probably the most minor crime he has done.

Wouldn’t be surprised if that is disinformation.

researchok Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:27:10pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

Pat is the racist uncle at MSNBC’s Thanksgiving dinner table. They invite him so they can roll their eyes and have something to laugh about while cleaning up and doing the dishes. It’s fucking annoying, but there it is.

It is lousy journalism.

At BEST.

wrenchwench Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:27:11pm

Mcaullife touched on one of the reasons this won’t go away: The Republicans would much rather run against a mysterious unknown than the guy who kicked their collective butt on health care, and otherwise has a good track record to run on as an incumbent.

Reality is teh hard.

goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:27:19pm

re: #48 engineer dog

obama went to a prep school, and started college at occidental college before transferring to columbia

he then worked at Business International Corporation, the New York Public Interest Research Group, and then became director of the Developing Communities Project and also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, before going to law school

What a slacker, if he worked harder he’d be white … or something./

Surabaya Stew Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:27:30pm

IMHO, its kinda unseemly for any POTUS to be talking about their grades; because it makes them seem as if they’re stuck in the past instead of focusing on the present. And its a waste of time for anybody else to be pondering over the POTUS’s grades, decades after University days were over; because it has nothing to do with their character today.

I say leave the College days analysis to the Obama scholars of the 2020’s.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:27:42pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

Pat is the racist uncle at MSNBC’s Thanksgiving dinner table. They invite him so they can roll their eyes and have something to laugh about while cleaning up and doing the dishes. It’s fucking annoying, but there it is.

Like a bunch of college students flinging pasta onto the wall to see if it sticks?

“How about this time?”
“Nope, still half baked.”

I agree that Buchanan should be told to provide proof or stop fishing.

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:28:40pm

re: #58 prononymous

I’ll bet affirmative action helped him with his grades, and the election too. ///

*sigh*

Actually it was blacks voting for him cuz of tribalism and whites voting for him cuz of white guilt. Or something.

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:28:46pm

I’m okay with MSNBC having Robertson on. I think it opens people’s eyes to the depravity of the GOP.

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:29:11pm

re: #65 allegro

Don’t forget the New Black Panthers.

researchok Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:29:25pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

Mcaullife touched on one of the reasons this won’t go away: The Republicans would much rather run against a mysterious unknown than the guy who kicked their collective butt on health care, and otherwise has a good track record to run on as an incumbent.

Reality is teh hard.

You’re on target. See this:

Belief in Conspiracies Linked to Machiavellian Mindset

theheat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:29:43pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

Yes, but did he split any rails or kill him a b’ar when he was only 3?

B’ar killin’ is a cottage industry in Wingnutsville.

Canned hunts apparently give them a stiffy.

HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:29:51pm

re: #65 allegro

Actually it was blacks voting for him cuz of tribalism and whites voting for him cuz of white guilt. Or something.

Well that and they voted for Obama because they thought he’d give them free stuff.

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:30:16pm

re: #67 stevemcg

Don’t forget the New Black Panthers.

Oh yeah and… ACORN!

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:30:48pm

re: #71 allegro

Oh yeah and… ACORN!

Wow, how quickly I forgot!

theheat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:32:17pm

re: #66 stevemcg

I’m okay with MSNBC having Robertson on. I think it opens people’s eyes to the depravity of the GOP.

I don’t agree. I think it gives the fringe a life raft to cling to and gives prizes for behavior incongruent to polite society.

BongCrodny Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:33:20pm

It’s a little known fact that John McCain actually won the 2008 election, but they gave Obama an extra 15,000,000 votes because of affirmative action.

researchok Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:33:33pm

re: #73 theheat

I don’t agree. I think it gives the fringe a life raft to cling to and gives prizes for behavior incongruent to polite society.

The smaller the platform, the lesser the impact.

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:33:35pm

re: #73 theheat

I realize this also happens, but I personally prefer the exposure of the dark side of the GOP.

albusteve Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:34:57pm

the MSM does not moderation, it would be against their interests…so even as tension rises and people are feeling less secure, the MSM fuels the fire for gold….I hate those fuckers with a passion

theheat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:35:02pm

re: #76 SteveMcG

But the GOP doesn’t see it as the dark side, is the problem. We do. They don’t.

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:35:05pm

re: #76 SteveMcG

I realize this also happens, but I personally prefer the exposure of the dark side of the GOP.

But… but… Buchanan is a roach that doesn’t run and hide when the light goes on. Not the way it’s s’posed to be.

Decatur Deb Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:35:55pm

re: #65 allegro

Actually it was blacks voting for him cuz of tribalism and whites voting for him cuz of white guilt. Or something.

No white guilt—my folks were on the correct end of the Civil War 12-pounder:

taphilo.com

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:35:59pm

re: #74 BongCrodny

It’s a little known fact that John McCain actually won the 2008 election, but they gave Obama an extra 15,000,000 votes because of affirmative action.

//

Hanging on the bulletin board at my gym is a paper detailing how much territory voted for McCain, how many Congressional districts and whatever. So I wrote on the bottom “What part of 69 million to 59 million don’t you understand?”

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:37:32pm

re: #78 theheat

But the GOP doesn’t see it as the dark side, is the problem. We do. They don’t.

I don’t expect to reform GOP’ers. I expect independents to see it and know what they voted for in 2010.

HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:38:03pm

A funny thing I’ve seen the right do to question his legitimacy as president is to say crap like “Who voted for him?” even though Obama actually did better than past Dem candidates like Gore and Kerry and even Clinton too. I think it bewilders the right that Obama ran such a smart campaign in 2008 and because of that they feel the need to question his legitimacy not just as president but as an American.

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:38:35pm

re: #80 Decatur Deb

No white guilt—my folks were on the correct end of the Civil War 12-pounder:

Neither were mine, I’m pleased to say. Mine were Bostonian abolitionists involved with the underground railroad.

Well that was one side. The other side were total bigots but came to the US after the civil war. They can’t all be winnahs.

recusancy Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:38:43pm

re: #82 SteveMcG

I don’t expect to reform GOP’ers. I expect independents to see it and know what they voted for in 2010.

They’re figuring it out:

Youtube Video

thinkprogress.org

BongCrodny Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:39:50pm

re: #81 SteveMcG

Hanging on the bulletin board at my gym is a paper detailing how much territory voted for McCain, how many Congressional districts and whatever. So I wrote on the bottom “What part of 69 million to 59 million don’t you understand?”

After the 2004 election, a wingnut friend forwarded a red/blue map of the U.S.; it pretty much was a sea of red dotted with blue islands.

My first thought was: “Awesome. Let me know when geography gets the right to vote.”

SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:41:37pm

re: #85 recusancy

They’re figuring it out:

[Video]
[Link: thinkprogress.org…]

I think the best part of it is that it is not the Dems who are pounding the Republicans. The Republicans are doing it to themselves. You don’t have a situation where the Democrats are making up Death Panel stories and blaming TARP on Obama and stuff like the tables were reversed.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:42:33pm

re: #86 BongCrodny

After the 2004 election, a wingnut friend forwarded a red/blue map of the U.S.; it pretty much was a sea of red dotted with blue islands.

My first thought was: “Awesome. Let me know when geography gets the right to vote.”

Never underestimate the power of geography. If all that oil was some place else, world politics would look a great deal different.

HappyWarrior Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:43:24pm

re: #86 BongCrodny

After the 2004 election, a wingnut friend forwarded a red/blue map of the U.S.; it pretty much was a sea of red dotted with blue islands.

My first thought was: “Awesome. Let me know when geography gets the right to vote.”

Yeah, they make a big deal out of the fact that they win more counties. It’s their usual “Real America versus not real America” crap.

Decatur Deb Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:46:17pm

You have to appreciate Buchanan’s point—if he were black, he would be President, or a rhythm n’ blues giant.

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:47:44pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

You have to appreciate Buchanan’s point—if he were black, he would be President, or a rhythm n’ blues giant.

Yeah, white guys just can’t get a fucking break.///

BongCrodny Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:51:44pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

You have to appreciate Buchanan’s point—if he were black, he would be President, or a rhythm n’ blues giant.

Well, I woke up this morning
Had my head up my ass
Yeah, I woke up this morning
Had my head up my ass

Aw, I got nothing else.

Varek Raith Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:53:26pm

Alternate Reality: Fox & Friends Declares Atlas Shrugged Movie A “Victory For Capitalism”

Lol, the film cost 20 million to make and has only made about 3 million in sales.
Let’s see that’ a…
Flop.
Free markets for the win!

goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:55:01pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

You have to appreciate Buchanan’s point—if he were black, he would be President, or a rhythm n’ blues giant.

More like Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks.

Decatur Deb Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:57:06pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Alternate Reality: Fox & Friends Declares Atlas Shrugged Movie A “Victory For Capitalism”

Lol, the film cost 20 million to make and has only made about 3 million in sales.
Let’s see that’ a…
Flop.
Free markets for the win!

You’re not counting the popcorn at 6 bucks a tub. Libertarians like them some popcorn.

allegro Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:58:46pm

re: #95 Decatur Deb

You’re not counting the popcorn at 6 bucks a tub. Libertarians like them some popcorn.

..and the beer they were crying into on account of it was so pathetically bad.

windsagio Tue, Apr 26, 2011 4:59:18pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

More like Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks.

Praise White God!

Youtube Video

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:13:37pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

He did more than “get by,” he was editor of the Law Review.

Yeah, that’s kind of where this whole line of inquiry meets a pathetic squishy death against a wall of reason. You may insist that affirmative action lets wholly unqualified candidates into Ivy League schools, but the notion that the editorship of an Ivy League law review is a handout to deserving urban minorities is a bit of a stretch.

This whole thing is extraordinarily disgusting. It’s a way of undercutting everything a man has achieved by suggesting that he didn’t earn it.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:14:32pm

re: #31 Lidane

But he’s a black man! Everyone knows that blacks and other minorities can’t possibly become editors of the Harvard Law Review, or even get into the Ivy League. Clearly, they’re just charity cases that were given their degrees out of pity, not merit.

///

The scary thing is, there are people who absolutely believe this. And most of them are middle-class college graduates who look just like normal people.

100

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:19:23pm

re: #38 moderatelyradicalliberal

I don’t see how you could prove it either way. Not for him or any other black student who went to a mostly white college. And so what if he was? Given the time I’m sure Harvard did want more black students, to make up for lost time and lack of black students. They were certainly actively recruiting black students to attend Princeton when my father went back in the early 1970s. A lot of schools were going all over the country looking for the smartest black kids they could find. To this day HBCUs are in fierce competition with Ivy League schools for black National Merit Scholars who used to go to them because they had no other choice. Harvard hit the jackpot. One of theirs became the first black president. If AA was involved I doubt Havard is lamenting whatever white student they lost.

I don’t think you could ever ‘prove’ anything to a fineness of ‘he wouldn’t have gotten in if’. I suspect that being black was an advantage to Obama in terms of school applications. I also suspect that Yale would have passed on GWB if he hadn’t been a legacy from a prominent family. Doesn’t matter. Anyone who thinks college admissions are all about some abstract of merit, or could be, doesn’t know much about colleges.

What’s disgusting is acting as though students who get a chance at highly competitive schools through affirmative action aren’t qualified, or their subsequent achievements are suspect.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:20:46pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

What other president, already seated mind you, has ever had his college grades become an issue? And Buchanan defends this bullshit as “a legitimate questions”.

Do they really think that if I learn that Obama got a C in Shakespearean Drama his sophomore year I’ll ask for my vote back?

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:21:23pm

re: #51 EmmmieG

Yes, but did he split any rails or kill him a b’ar when he was only 3?

That’s Sarah. Sarah Palin.
Queen of the wild frontier.

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simoom Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:21:58pm

re: #44 albusteve

if pundits are criticizing BO’s education, his smarts and his benefit from AA then they need to back it up…so I ask, where is the proof?…get it now?

As was mentioned above, the President received his Juris Doctor with Latin honors (magna cum laude) from Harvard Law. He later taught Constitutional Law for twelve years. Consequently his “education” and “smarts” are not in question. The only reason to raise affirmative action as Trump, Buchanan and others have, is to attempt to diminish the President and his accomplishments by trading in White resentment politics.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:22:01pm

re: #58 prononymous

I’ll bet affirmative action helped him with his grades, and the election too. ///

*sigh*

That’s been their theme all along. “Everybody only voted for him because he’s black…”

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goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:22:31pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

Do they really think that if I learn that Obama got a C in Shakespearean Drama his sophomore year I’ll ask for my vote back?

Forsooth.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:25:53pm

re: #86 BongCrodny

After the 2004 election, a wingnut friend forwarded a red/blue map of the U.S.; it pretty much was a sea of red dotted with blue islands.

My first thought was: “Awesome. Let me know when geography gets the right to vote.”

If you show voters, rather than counties won, the map is purple all across.

But yeah, Democratic voters tend to cluster in urban sprawl. And a whole lot of land can be painted red by the fact that Fred, AND Jerry, AND Sue AND Mitch AND Miranda in Hanging-On-The-Ledge South Dakota all voted for McCain.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:26:22pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Yeah, they make a big deal out of the fact that they win more counties. It’s their usual “Real America versus not real America” crap.

We prefer to call it Unreal America, thank you.

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Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:26:51pm

*headdesk*

So I interviewed for an internship last fall. Never heard back, so I assumed I didn’t get the job. Turns out, they wanted to hire me, thought I would start at the time, and ALSO thought I had accepted a job elsewhere, so no one ever said a peep.

I didn’t have another job. Still don’t. Still need the internship. Now I’m scrambling, sending emails to the people I interviewed with and to my program director explaining the crossed wires and hoping that something good can still come from this. If I’ve been sending out resumes for months for no reason, I’m going to be annoyed. However, I will be happy to get a position, finally and again. Heh.

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wrenchwench Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:28:12pm

A fucking college degree is not even a job requirement for the position Obama holds. He could have flunked out of middle school, and since he’s already the president, it wouldn’t matter. He would have had a harder time getting elected, but since that has already happened, it doesn’t make any difference now.

They’ll have to stick with birtherism, because grades don’t matter.

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brookly red Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:31:22pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

Do they really think that if I learn that Obama got a C in Shakespearean Drama his sophomore year I’ll ask for my vote back?

I am so tempted to make a teleprompter crack, but unfortunately I agree with you.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:31:25pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

A fucking college degree is not even a job requirement for the position Obama holds. He could have flunked out of middle school, and since he’s already the president, it wouldn’t matter. He would have had a harder time getting elected, but since that has already happened, it doesn’t make any difference now.

They’ll have to stick with birtherism, because grades don’t matter.

The pouty ones keep coming back to this, though. Somehow, there’s got to be something that disqualifies Obama, and when everyone finds out about it, they’ll see him they way the nuts always have. They’ll find something. SOMETHING!

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goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:31:39pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

A fucking college degree is not even a job requirement for the position Obama holds. He could have flunked out of middle school, and since he’s already the president, it wouldn’t matter. He would have had a harder time getting elected, but since that has already happened, it doesn’t make any difference now.

They’ll have to stick with birtherism, because grades don’t matter.

This is less about finding a legitimate issue than about stoking a generalized sense of white victimhood.

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jaunte Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:32:48pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t think they really want information; it’s more productive for people like Buchanan to continue (ad nauseam) to say there are “unanswered questions.”

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:33:18pm

Out with it, Pat

call him a niii-

come on, you can do it, you know you wanna

You know, deep inside, you know you wanna say niii…

Give us your truth, Pat! Give us everything rattling around in that dusty racist brain of yous, pat!

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BongCrodny Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:35:35pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

If you show voters, rather than counties won, the map is purple all across.

But yeah, Democratic voters tend to cluster in urban sprawl. And a whole lot of land can be painted red by the fact that Fred, AND Jerry, AND Sue AND Mitch AND Miranda in Hanging-On-The-Ledge South Dakota all voted for McCain.

Yeah, this was my thinking as well. Bush won the electoral vote by a substantial margin, but finished with a shade under 51% of the popular vote.

The map she sent me, however, was presented as though it were a testament to the awesomeness of the Class of 2004 (ahem) and how Democrats/liberals were in serious danger of being swept aside by the red tide.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:36:21pm

re: #104 SanFranciscoZionist

That’s been their theme all along. “Everybody only voted for him because he’s black…”

That’s their theme with life! Fuck I’VE heard that since high school

I didn’t get that job because I’m not black

My kid didn’t get into the good school because the black kid stole his spot

Under achieving feckless morons love to blame the blacks for their own damaged upbringing, poor station and inadequate skills

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:37:18pm

re: #115 BongCrodny

Yeah, this was my thinking as well. Bush won the electoral vote by a substantial margin, but finished with a shade under 51% of the popular vote.

The map she sent me, however, was presented as though it were a testament to the awesomeness of the Class of 2004 (ahem) and how Democrats/liberals were in serious danger of being swept aside by the red tide.

delusion is a beautiful thing

the human mind can convince itself of ANYTHING

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Linden Arden Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:38:08pm

Having a father with a Masters in Economics from Harvard is more important than affirmative action anyway.

Where I went to school it was a rubber stamp.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:39:50pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

Pat is the racist uncle at MSNBC’s Thanksgiving dinner table. They invite him so they can roll their eyes and have something to laugh about while cleaning up and doing the dishes. It’s fucking annoying, but there it is.

We had a racist uncle! When I was a kid, he was fun and jolly and a happy drunk and about where Pat is with regard to his politics and how much he hated The EviL Rock And Roll. Then he went crazy and now he hates all of us, and now he’s off the grid, travelling around in his RV, and his own kids show up at my parents’ christmas parties and complain about him :D

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brookly red Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:40:39pm

re: #118 Linden Arden

Having a father with a Masters in Economics from Harvard is more important than affirmative action anyway.

Where I went to school it was a rubber stamp.

I got 2 very very impressive degrees from impressive private schools. I got them the old fashion way… I PAID for them

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Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:41:40pm

re: #116 WindUpBird

I didn’t get that job because I’m not ~~black~~ Mexican

My kid didn’t get into the good school because some ~~black kid~~ wetback stole his spot

Change the slur and I’ve heard the same shit for years.

Funny thing is, I’ve had people say it to me openly because I’m fair skinned and don’t talk with a stereotypical accent. They thought I was white like them, so they’d just say racist shit to my face without realizing they were offending me.

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Linden Arden Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:42:54pm

re: #120 brookly red

I didn’t imply he didn’t earn his grades - just that he got in legend wise.

Most people think of his Obama Sr as some sort of ner’ do well - but he was very well educated.

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Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:43:17pm

re: #119 WindUpBird

We had a racist uncle!

One of my uncles is incredibly racist against black people. I keep having to point out that if he goes anywhere north of San Antonio, there are rednecks saying worse about him, because he’s Mexican. I don’t think it’s sunk in yet.

And of course, he’s a Fox News fan. Oy.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:43:19pm

re: #120 brookly red

I got 2 very very impressive degrees from impressive private schools. I got them the old fashion way… I PAID for them

I got one art school degree, my graduating class for my department was 14 people

And nobody ever asked me about my degree, or needed to see it, or cared

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:43:26pm

re: #115 BongCrodny

Yeah, this was my thinking as well. Bush won the electoral vote by a substantial margin, but finished with a shade under 51% of the popular vote.

The map she sent me, however, was presented as though it were a testament to the awesomeness of the Class of 2004 (ahem) and how Democrats/liberals were in serious danger of being swept aside by the red tide.

Yeah, that’s just someone who doesn’t understand that parts of the United States are far more densely populated than other parts.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:43:31pm

re: #123 Lidane

One of my uncles is incredibly racist against black people. I keep having to point out that if he goes anywhere north of San Antonio, there are rednecks saying worse about him, because he’s Mexican. I don’t think it’s sunk in yet.

And of course, he’s a Fox News fan. Oy.

wowza

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wrenchwench Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:43:57pm

Image: funny-pictures-white-mouse-black-mouse-rats.jpg

Later, lizards.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:44:08pm

re: #125 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, that’s just someone who doesn’t understand that parts of the United States are far more densely populated than other parts.

See, that’s just funny :D

LOOK AT THAT TINY INSIGNIFICANT NEW YORK, GIMME A BREAK

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brookly red Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:44:10pm

re: #122 Linden Arden

I didn’t imply he didn’t earn his grades - just that he got in legend wise.

Most people think of his Obama Sr as some sort of ner’ do well - but he was very well educated.

I understand what you meant, I am just adding to it.

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Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:45:00pm

re: #126 WindUpBird

wowza

Thankfully, he’s an uncle by marriage. His idiocy isn’t in either of my genetic lines, thank goodness. Heh.

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SteveMcGazi Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:47:50pm

You know, in my family my uncles are cool. It’s my cousins who are the assholes.

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goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:50:00pm

re: #120 brookly red

I got 2 very very impressive degrees from impressive private schools. I got them the old fashion way… I PAID for them

So … no academic work was involved? I went to a public university for undergrad B.A. and an expensive private school for my M.S., but I got both degrees through hard work. I paid for tuition, fees, books and materials, but hard work is what actually got me the degrees.

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engineer cat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:52:00pm

orlandosentinel.com

another town hall meeting where the ryan plan is thrown back in the face of a republican house member

the thing that amazes and encourages me is that these audience members giving these ryanites hell are completely well briefed

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:53:15pm

re: #133 engineer dog

it’s like they know it’ll get on youtube, so they’re actually making use of that

(also: respect for being an Eschaton reader)

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Lidane Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:53:55pm

re: #131 SteveMcG

You know, in my family my uncles are cool. It’s my cousins who are the assholes.

My cousins are cool. Most of my family is cool. Even that idiot racist uncle of mine is tolerable as long as he’s not talking about politics, but since every time I go to see him and my aunt, they’ve got Fox News on, there’s always something about Obama or whoever for people to complain about. Blah.

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BongCrodny Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:55:40pm

True story:

My dad was somewhat of a religious kook; a full metal “The Jews killed Jesus” guy. But I swear to this day I never heard him say an unkind word about blacks.

We had a family gathering a few years after he passed away, and I remember saying the above to my sister. Despite the fact that all three of us kids suffered some pretty strong emotional (but never physical) abuse under the man, I guess I still wanted to think the best of him.

My sister looked at me, started laughing and said “You didn’t know him very well, did you?”

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engineer cat Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:55:41pm

re: #134 WindUpBird

(also: respect for being an Eschaton reader)

:-)

supertrains!

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windsagio Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:58:22pm

re: #120 brookly red

That’s nothin’

I went to 3 Ivy league schools at once while working multiple night jobs and playing Pro Poker on the side to pay my way.

I earned all my degrees dagummit!

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goddamnedfrank Tue, Apr 26, 2011 5:59:39pm

re: #135 Lidane

My cousins are cool. Most of my family is cool. Even that idiot racist uncle of mine is tolerable as long as he’s not talking about politics, but since every time I go to see him and my aunt, they’ve got Fox News on, there’s always something about Obama or whoever for people to complain about. Blah.

Do your aunt and uncle leave FOX News on even when they’re not at home? I’m taking a survey.

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makeitstop Tue, Apr 26, 2011 6:58:27pm

re: #134 WindUpBird

(also: respect for being an Eschaton reader)

I knew Atrios before he was Atrios! He used to be a mod at a forum I belonged to.

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Decider Tue, Apr 26, 2011 7:36:48pm

The GOP platform for 2012: “Vote White!”

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Timmeh Tue, Apr 26, 2011 10:04:26pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

As a lizard, I take offense to Buchanan being referred to as a “reptile”. I would prefer “bacterium” or something along that line.

Hear, Hear! It’s an insult to reptiles!

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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Apr 27, 2011 1:57:51am

Conservatives with half a brain would be happy to hold up Obama as an example to inner-city gangstas and thugs to prove that it is no longer a white man’s world: anyone willing to make the effort can rise to a position of prominence in our society.

Unfortunately, all we get is this chorus of primitive lizard-brained hatred directed at all things black.

And of course, George W. Bush got into Princeton based entirely on his academic merits…

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 2:28:57am

re: #140 makeitstop

I knew Atrios before he was Atrios! He used to be a mod at a forum I belonged to.

AWESOME!

if you have his ear, tell him I been a lurker fan for SO LONG

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Apr 27, 2011 2:29:46am

re: #138 windsagio

That’s nothin’

I went to 3 Ivy league schools at once while working multiple night jobs and playing Pro Poker on the side to pay my way.

I earned all my degrees dagummit!

MAN I SMOKED FORTY DICKS AND I GOT A LAMBORGHINI IN MY BEDROOM

ALSO I CAN LEVITATE AND I GOT NINE TITS

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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Apr 27, 2011 2:48:38am

I found it funny that the Republicans tried to brand Obama as an “elitist” during the campaign: a half-black son of a single mom who made it to the Ivy League based on his efforts - running against the son of an admiral who (re-)married into a millionaire family that bought him the Republican nomination to his Arizona legislative district.

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