Pamela Geller Doubles Down: New Birth Certificate Fraudulent Too!

Geller’s hilarious ‘exhaustive digital forensic examination’
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Adobe - how does it work?You knew Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller wasn’t going to give up that easily, didn’t you?

Read it here first! Atlas EXCLUSIVE! LAYERING: OBAMA’S NEW COLB RAISES MORE QUESTIONS THAN IT ANSWERS!!!!! - Atlas Shrugs

Today, Obama released another copy of his COLB (certification of live birth) — more here. It looks like another exhaustive digital forensic examination is in order.

And so the question is, why release such an obvious forgery?

Get ready for a SHOCK! Because the PDF released by the White House, purportedly an image of the President’s “long form” birth certificate … contains layers! LAYERS!!! It has layers! Don’t you see? All you have to is load the PDF into Adobe Illustrator and you can see them yourself! Layers! Aiieee! It’s an obvious forgery!

Geller cites a random poster from Free Republic, a YouTube video, and some other right wing bloggers who assert with absolute certainty that no PDF file could possibly contain layers if it was a genuine scanned image of a black President’s birth certificate.

Nope, couldn’t happen.

So, even though I already knew what I’d find, I printed out the White House PDF, then re-scanned the printed copy into Adobe Acrobat, using the ‘Create PDF … From Scanner’ menu option. I turned off the checkbox for ‘Make Searchable (Run OCR)’, and left everything else at the default settings, then scanned that baby with my Canon MP830.

Here’s the resulting file: bc-scan.pdf

Go ahead and load that into Adobe Illustrator. What do you see?

Aieeee!!!

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196 comments
1 windsagio  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:17:46pm

You know I wonder if she even believes it herself anymore or is just riding the gravy/fame train all the way to the depot.

2 Mocking Jay  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:18:15pm

Fuckin' layers...

3 Obdicut  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:18:32pm

PDF's got layers. You can't explain that!

4 Locker  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:18:37pm

The layers! They prove everything! The underpants gnomes have gotten into Obama's birth certificate!

1. Make layers.
2. ?
3. Profit!

5 Mocking Jay  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:19:20pm

re: #3 Obdicut

PDF's got layers. You can't explain that!

Where did they come from!!?!?!?!11?!

6 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:19:42pm

re: #5 JasonA

Where did they come from!!?!?!?!11?!

Mars doesn't have any layers.

7 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:20:17pm

i kan see pixelashun frum mah heet map! Globular clusters!

8 elizajane  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:21:14pm

Due to her undoubted expertise on all things fraudulent, this woman was actually interviewed --seriously -- on Fox Business last night on the Birth Certificate question. The host, Eric Bolling, was moved to agree that she had certainly proven that there were questions still needing to be answered.

And some people, even sane people, try to bring out the False Equivalence Fairy on these charlatans at Fox vs. the N.Y. Times (see Frum today). It's revolting.

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

9 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:21:27pm

"FUCK YOU REALITY! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME! GET ME ANOTHER GIN SMOOTHIE!"

10 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:22:43pm

Send Layers, Guns and Money!!!

11 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:22:59pm

Pam Geller's exclusive throbbing layers.

//

12 EdDantes  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:23:24pm

Republicans: Give it up. The battle was over before it began.

13 The Mountain That Blogs  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:24:00pm

You sure she didn't mean "Ayers"?

14 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:24:22pm

re: #10 ralphieboy

Send Layers, Guns and Money!!!

Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

15 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:25:39pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

Yee-Haw.

16 EdDantes  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:25:51pm

re: #10 ralphieboy

Warren Zevon reference will always get an upding from me.

17 hellointernet  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:26:13pm

I know we're having lols but did we really have to get Comic Sans involved in this.

18 HappyWarrior  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:29:55pm

Oh, just shut up already Pam. You've been asking "Where's the birth certificate" and they finally oblige people like you and Donald Trump and you're still not happy. Go hug a EDL fascist.

19 bubba zanetti  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:31:24pm

Looks like Jay pegged the compression.

20 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:32:43pm

So ... she's saying that is birth certificate is like an ogre?

21 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:33:38pm

re: #13 The Mountain That Blogs

You sure she didn't mean "Ayers"?

Layers, layers, Ayers. YES!

22 3CPO  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:34:29pm

Charles, obviously your scan is a FRAUD!!

23 jaunte  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:34:32pm

Justaskingquestions Ululans

24 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:35:06pm

re: #21 Stanley Sea

Layers, layers, Ayers. YES!

Layers, Layers

Mo Mayers

Banana Fana fo fayers

Mi Mo Mo Mayers

Ayers

25 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:35:28pm

Tasty, tasty layers ..

26 bubba zanetti  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:35:53pm

It's layers all the way down...

27 abbyadams  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:35:57pm
who assert with absolute certainty that no PDF file could possibly contain layers if it was a genuine scanned image of a black President’s birth certificate.

"of a black president's birth certificate."

lulz.

28 abbyadams  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:36:50pm

Because I still have FB friends waging the war...yes, racial motivation is present in most cases.

29 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:37:13pm

re: #22 3CPO

Charles, obviously your scan is a FRAUD!!

I've seen a lot of shops in my day...

30 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:38:20pm

re: #26 bubba zanetti

It's layers all the way down...

LAYERS EVERYWHERE!

31 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:39:36pm

Adobe are in on the conspiracy as well!

Not even the internet is safe anymore!

Run to your shelters and/or basements now!

32 makeitstop  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:40:13pm

Pamz - putting the 'Ayers' in 'layers.'

I really wish she'd find something else to do.

33 freetoken  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:40:25pm

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LAYERS EVERYWHERE!

YOU CAN'T 'PLAIN THAT!

34 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:40:52pm

For the birther layering bozos...

From National Review:

PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate

We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it...

It's from NRO so they can't be part of the conspiracy. Right?

35 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:41:38pm

re: #34 Gus 802

For the birther layering bozos...

From National Review:

PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate

It's from NRO so they can't be part of the conspiracy. Right?

Right. Right .... RIGHT!?!

/

36 freetoken  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:42:22pm

Idiocy everywhere... it's hard to battle.

Anyway, not quite so idiotic and definitely more courageous is the maker of this video from Tuscaloosa yesterday:

Youtube Video
37 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:44:50pm

re: #34 Gus 802

For the birther layering bozos...

From National Review:

PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate

It's from NRO so they can't be part of the conspiracy. Right?

Thats what they would like you to think...

38 avanti  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:45:03pm

Even NRO debunked the layers conspiracy :

"What’s plausible is that somewhere along the way — from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) — these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home."

(They showed a NRO magazine cover to scan and get "layers")

NRO.

39 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:45:21pm

Yeah.

With all the entire government covert agencies ands latest technology at his disposal, Obama could not get one passed Geller.

Right

40 Mocking Jay  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:46:41pm

re: #38 avanti

Even NRO debunked the layers conspiracy :

"What’s plausible is that somewhere along the way — from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) — these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. What’s not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obama’s birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. It’s likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Let’s leave it at that.

UPDATE: I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home."

(They showed a NRO magazine cover to scan and get "layers")

NRO.

Kinda disgusted that they'd compare Ryan to FDR. :p

41 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:47:01pm

re: #39 researchok

Yeah.

With all the entire government covert agencies ands latest technology at his disposal, Obama could not get one passed Geller.

Right

Like George Bush almost got away with 9-11 except that Dylan Avery was on the case.

42 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:47:05pm

re: #39 researchok

Yeah.

With all the entire government covert agencies ands latest technology at his disposal, Obama could not get one passed Geller.

Right

And then there's Wikileaks who apparently missed everything but Obama's BC and the 911 "inside job".

43 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:47:36pm

re: #39 researchok

Yeah.

With all the entire government covert agencies ands latest technology at his disposal, Obama could not get one passed Geller.

Right

I think Dick Cheney planted the obvious fake so that Geller would discover it. Believe nothing, it's all disinfo!

Fight the power!

/

44 prairiefire  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:47:55pm

re: #36 freetoken

I wonder if that fellow from the video you posted last night made any money off the photos he was taking. Snapping and praying at the same time! I pray like that when we pass an accident.

45 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:47:57pm

Sir. We have everything except one thing.

What's that?

We still haven't been able to locate Obama's REAL birth certificate.

//

46 Killgore Trout  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:48:29pm

This does demonstrate how far the right wing blogs have fallen since Rathergate. What used to be honest and smart people exposing media bias and forgeries is now just idiots perpetuating conspiracy theories.

47 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:48:59pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #42 Gus 802

Yeah.

Good thing Geller and the birthers are on the job.

If it wasn't for them the whole world would believe Oswald was guilty of murdering Kennedy.

48 freetoken  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:49:52pm

re: #46 Killgore Trout

It's so crazy. I rank it right up there with the Harold Camping stuff (which I've referenced a couple of times here.)

49 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:50:07pm

re: #47 researchok

re: #42 Gus 802

Yeah.

Good thing Geller and the birthers are on the job.

If it wasn't for them the whole world would believe Oswald was guilty of murdering Kennedy.

Image: dunce1.jpg

50 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:50:30pm

re: #47 researchok

re: #42 Gus 802

Yeah.

Good thing Geller and the birthers are on the job.

If it wasn't for them the whole world would believe Oswald was guilty of murdering Kennedy.

When we all know Kennedy is alive and well, playing bridge with Elvis, Buddy Holly and Jimmy Hendrix.

51 Locker  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:50:33pm

re: #39 researchok

Yeah.

With all the entire government covert agencies ands latest technology at his disposal, Obama could not get one passed Geller.

Right

That's what happens when dealing with someone who's as sharp as a sack full of doorknobs.

52 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:50:42pm

re: #48 freetoken

It's so crazy. I rank it right up there with the Harold Camping stuff (which I've referenced a couple of times here.)

All pathologies left untreated, escalate.

Period.

53 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:51:58pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

When we all know Kennedy is alive and well, playing bridge with Elvis, Buddy Holly and Jimmy Hendrix.

And Htler, in Agentina on a beach with lebensborn.

54 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:52:21pm

re: #31 HAL2010

Adobe are in on the conspiracy as well!

Not even the internet is safe anymore!

Run to your shelters and/or basements now!

Oh, NO!! My shelter is made out of Adobe! In layers!!1!

*runs around shrieking*

55 freetoken  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:53:11pm

re: #52 researchok

We have to push back against the stupidity. These people who go off on these crazy tangents become unmoored from reality for who knows what reasons, but they do.

I have no doubt that people like Beck do it for the money (and Trump too), but their true believer followers are really unable to distinguish reality from con.

56 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:53:43pm

re: #53 researchok

And Htler, in Agentina on a beach with lebensborn.

Don't be silly. We all know that Hitler died at the end of WWII, in 1958.

57 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:53:57pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

Oh, NO!! My shelter is made out of Adobe! In layers!!1!

*runs around shrieking*

Image: vader-nooooo.jpg

58 prairiefire  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:54:14pm

re: #36 freetoken

Idiocy everywhere... it's hard to battle.

Anyway, not quite so idiotic and definitely more courageous is the maker of this video from Tuscaloosa yesterday:

[Video]

He was so flippin' close!

59 freetoken  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:54:53pm

re: #58 prairiefire

He was so flippin' close!

Yeah, another 100 yards closer and his car could have flipped.

60 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:54:57pm

re: #56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't be silly. We all know that Hitler died at the end of WWII, in 1958.

That's the real 5th "dimension" column.

//

61 Sionainn  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:55:25pm

The latest "question" I just ran into was "Kenya wasn't known as 'Kenya' until 1964."

Really?

62 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:55:35pm

re: #57 HAL2010

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NOOO-OOO-OOO!

63 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:56:42pm

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Requested content cannot be loaded.

NOOO-OOO-OOO!

Youtube Video
64 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:56:45pm

Sometimes I wonder how many people understand just how ill some of these birthers really are.

Unlike flat earthers or phony moon landing people, these people believe their everyday lives and the everyday lives of everyone around them are affected by this conspiracy.

There is a huge difference between the flat earthers and phony moon landing people, with the 9/11 was an inside job as the bridge between the two.

This is a whole other level paranoia than the tinfoil hat guy or alien abductee whose experience is his alone.

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:56:48pm

WND has a poll up on the release of Obama's "purported long-form birth certificate". The results are not surprising. [Cached link]

Bunch of backwards morons.

66 Big Steve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:57:04pm

Hey....if its not flashing it just isn't the production values we have come to expect from LGF!

67 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:57:11pm

re: #60 Gus 802

That's the real 5th "dimension" column.

//



1937: Hitler joins the Thule Society, a group of German aristocrats obsessed with the occult. In 1938, he acquired the spear of Longinus, which pierced the side of Christ. He who holds it becomes invincible. Hitler's power increases tenfold. 1943: President Roosevelt decides to fight back. The Bureau of Paranormal Research and Defense is born. 1958: the Occult Wars finally come to an end with the death of Adolf Hitler.

68 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:58:19pm

re: #36 freetoken

Idiocy everywhere... it's hard to battle.

Anyway, not quite so idiotic and definitely more courageous is the maker of this video from Tuscaloosa yesterday:

[Video]

That was one big ass mofo tornado.

69 mr.fusion  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 1:59:36pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

Oh, just shut up already Pam. You've been asking "Where's the birth certificate" and they finally oblige people like you and Donald Trump and you're still not happy. Go hug a EDL fascist.

The only thing Obama proved by releasing it is that he had absolutely no reason to release it.

This was settled in 2008. The media and the racist pricks and their enablers have completely screwed the pooch on this entire thing. Every single Republican that is in any position of leadership who has said "I take him at his word" deserves to be bitch slapped into oblivion.

70 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:00:41pm

re: #69 mr.fusion

The only thing Obama proved by releasing it is that he had absolutely no reason to release it.

Hear hear.

71 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:01:06pm

Maybe Obama screwed up the phony BC because he put Van Jones and Bill Ayers in charge.

They wanted him to get busted because he wasn't radical enough and refused to destroy the capitalist system and imprison credit union employees...

72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:02:25pm

Okay. I called the President "crazy" for releasing his birth certificate.

He's crazy like a fox! He knew the idiots wouldn't stop.

73 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:02:45pm

re: #70 HAL2010

Hear hear.

Heh, just as the various GOP leaders were finally dropping it, he throws gas on the fire so they can't let it die and the Birthers think they smell blood in the water. They'll tear apart any GOP candidate who tries to shelve the issue now.

74 albusteve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:03:06pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

When we all know Kennedy is alive and well, playing bridge with Elvis, Buddy Holly and Jimmy Hendrix.

that's Jimi....no more chances

75 mr.fusion  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:05:05pm

re: #61 Sionainn

The latest "question" I just ran into was "Kenya wasn't known as 'Kenya' until 1964."

Really?

Here's some comments from a Drudge linked to article

The problem with this "new" birth certificate is that it's well....new. It lists his birthday as August 4, 1961, then list his fathers native country as Kenya. The problem with that is Kenya didn't exist until 1963, it was British East Africa or East Africa Protectorate until then. It also lists the hospital of his birth as Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, which didn't exist until 1978. Prior to that time it was Kauaikeolani Children's Hospital. It's is also dated April 25, 2011 with Dr. Alvin T. Onaka signing to the stamp of " I certify this is a true copy or abstract of the record on file in the Hawaii Department of State Health". Being an abstract does not mean it real or official, it means it matches what is in the electronic system, which would have been put in some time after 1978 because of the hospital name, and as recently as April 25, 2011 because of the date, or any time in between.

...

Pablo Munoz · Mesa Community College

Birthplace of father: Kenya, East Africa.

Wait, what? Remember, this is 1961. Kenya did not yet exist as "Kenya", but rather as the British colony "British East Africa". Kenya did not receive its independence from Britain, and also its name, until 1963. The original birth certificate should read "British East Africa", or "British East Africa Proctorate" instead of "Kenya".

...

Nivek Squires · Kirkwood Community College

good one this has to be the best snowjob on america since bt barum who must be spinning in his grave.

...

Rob Horne · Dallas, Texas

At least republicans do not withhold their birth certificates, what other "truths" could democrats be hiding? I am abashed that a fellow American would not question political uncertainties. Also ...your mom should be ashamed

...

Donald MacMurray

Trump - 1 Obama - 0...LOL. Does anyone remember who started the so-called "birther" movement? It was the Hillary Clinton machine who started this mess during the primaries. If we had any true journalists in the mainstream media today, they would have looked into this and uncovered ALL of the truth about the bumbling fool in the White House. Keep voting for Marxists, democRats...you're killing America.

I mean look......we all knew there would still be some crazies out there that this wouldn't matter to. But it's depressing how many there are. What the hell is going on in this country?

76 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:05:12pm

re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay. I called the President "crazy" for releasing his birth certificate.

He's crazy like a fox! He knew the idiots wouldn't stop.

"Sir. The plan is to release your long form birth certificate. The warhead in this release will include one very important factor. It will a PDF of course. But it will be a layered PDF."

"Shrewd, very shrewd."

//

77 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:06:09pm

"The only way to stop the enemy is to release a layered PDF to the Red Chinese." -- Colonel Flagg

//

78 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:06:30pm

re: #74 albusteve

that's Jimi...no more chances

No, Jimmy Hendrix, hell of nice guy. Used to run a deli in Pittsburgh.

You thought I meant the Musician? Everyone knows he's on a secret NASA project.

79 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:06:57pm

re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, Jimmy Hendrix, hell of nice guy. Used to run a deli in Pittsburgh.

You thought I meant the Musician? Everyone knows he's on a secret NASA project.

"Shrewd, very shrewd."

80 mr.fusion  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:07:21pm

re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay. I called the President "crazy" for releasing his birth certificate.

He's crazy like a fox! He knew the idiots wouldn't stop.

No doubt about it. And he did it while the new King Birther, Donald Trump, is the de facto Republican nominee.

It was a brilliant move

81 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:07:32pm

re: #77 Gus 802

"The only way to stop the enemy is to release a layered PDF to the Red Chinese." -- Colonel Flagg

//

"Examine the PDF, you need to go deeper."

- Derpception

82 Big Steve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:07:40pm

re: #77 Gus 802

"The only way to stop the enemy is to release a layered PDF to the Red Chinese." -- Colonel Flagg

//


an obscure MASH reference....very nice sir....well played.

83 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:08:15pm

Pam Geller is a Romulan?

Youtube Video
84 darthstar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:08:43pm

And it has no comments! I looked at the PDF and there ARE NO COMMENTS! Why didn't the doctors, nurses, goat herders, and guerilla warriors at Obama's birth add comments to the original PDF in 1961?

85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:09:59pm

1961. Dang, a year older than I am.

He done better.

86 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:10:05pm

It's so much easier to make statements about things when you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, isn't it, Pammy darling?

87 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:10:15pm

It appears to me that none of these wingnuts realise that for a near 50 year old piece of paper to become a PDF file shit has to happen to it.

88 mr.fusion  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:10:31pm

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

1961. Dang, a year older than I am.

He done better.

That's affirmative action for ya

89 McSpiff  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:10:33pm

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

1961. Dang, a year older than I am.

He done better.

Next year is gonna be HUGE for you FBV.

90 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:10:45pm

re: #86 Romantic Heretic

It's so much easier to make statements about things when you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about, isn't it, Pammy darling?

Well, thats just like .. your opinion man

91 darthstar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:11:34pm

OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. CHARLES CREATED THE FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!11ty!

And he admits it here...

I printed out the White House PDF, then re-scanned the printed copy into Adobe Acrobat, using the ‘Create PDF … From Scanner’ menu option. I turned off the checkbox for ‘Make Searchable (Run OCR)’, and left everything else at the default settings, then scanned that baby with my Canon MP830.

It was Charles all along...I knew there was something funky about that guy.
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92 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:11:57pm

Charles' test doesn't prove anything! The original PDF had layers, so of course a file generated from a scanned printout of it will have layers too!
/

93 Sionainn  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:12:44pm

re: #75 mr.fusion

Here's some comments from a Drudge linked to article

I mean look...we all knew there would still be some crazies out there that this wouldn't matter to. But it's depressing how many there are. What the hell is going on in this country?

The crazy thing is that it is so incredibly easy to see if what you are spouting is factual or not.

I ran into the hospital thing yesterday, with these wingnuts actually giving the link to the hospital. It very clearly stated in the link that the maternity hospital was founded in 1890. In 1978, the maternity hospital joined with a children's hospital. It was written right there! Either they simply cannot comprehend what they read, or they don't bother to even read any of the links they pass on.

94 Big Steve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:12:45pm

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

1961. Dang, a year older than I am.

He done better.


One of my grandfather's favority sayings was; "Never vote for anyone younger than you".....well shit that is getting harder and harder for me to observe.

Of course grandpa of Big Steve other favorite sayings were; "Go to be the same day you got up" and "never eat anything white".

95 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:13:00pm

re: #91 darthstar

OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. CHARLES CREATED THE FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!11ty!

And he admits it here...

It was Charles all along...I knew there was something funky about that guy.
///

Now add some ponytail references.

//

96 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:13:04pm

re: #91 darthstar

OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. CHARLES CREATED THE FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!11ty!

And he admits it here...

It was Charles all along...I knew there was something funky about that guy.
///

That's the line of the day!

97 darthstar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:13:44pm

re: #92 Simply Sarah

Charles' test doesn't prove anything! The original PDF had layers, so of course a file generated from a scanned printout of it will have layers too!
/

Ever see the movie "Layer Cake"? (It's got Daniel Craig for the ladies)...good flick. [Link: www.imdb.com...]

98 Big Steve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:14:38pm

re: #91 darthstar

OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. CHARLES CREATED THE FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!11ty!

And he admits it here...


It was Charles all along...I knew there was something funky about that guy.
///

hummm....and they are both from Hawaii......hummmmmm

99 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:14:56pm

re: #75 mr.fusion

Here's some comments from a Drudge linked to article

...

...

...

...

I mean look...we all knew there would still be some crazies out there that this wouldn't matter to. But it's depressing how many there are. What the hell is going on in this country?

Facebook.

That Temple of Truth and Credibility.

100 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:14:58pm

Presidential
Deception
Forces

Eleventy!

101 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:15:04pm

re: #91 darthstar

OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD. CHARLES CREATED THE FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!11ty!

And he admits it here...

It was Charles all along...I knew there was something funky about that guy.
///

Dear God, it's so clever not even Pam thought of THAT!

102 blueraven  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:15:18pm

re: #80 mr.fusion

No doubt about it. And he did it while the new King Birther, Donald Trump, is the de facto Republican nominee.

It was a brilliant move

And now he can take them on at times and make fun of them. Call them out like they should be, point and laugh.
Sooner or later the political leaders and the MSM will have to renounce these bozos in NO uncertain terms, lest they become the pointees with the dunce caps.

103 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:15:47pm

OPERATION MARKET GARDEN LAYERS

104 darthstar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:15:53pm

re: #100 Gus 802

Presidential
Deception
Forces

Eleventy!

I tried to join the presidential deception forces...got kicked out for honesty.

105 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:16:22pm

re: #99 researchok

Facebook.

That Temple of Truth and Credibility.

Its as least as reliable as wikipedia!

106 Big Steve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:16:44pm

re: #103 Gus 802

OPERATION MARKET GARDEN LAYERS


Operation Overlayer

107 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:16:55pm

re: #95 Gus 802

What was Andrew Breitbart's new name for me again? Oh yeah -- "Jazzy the Creepy Ponytailman!"

I kinda like it.

108 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:17:17pm

OPERATION HAVE DOUGHNUT LAYERS

109 3eff Jeff  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:17:33pm

I bet the intern deliberately turned on the OCR just to troll these guys. I'm just picturing said intern confessing that to Obama and the two of them having a good laugh.

110 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:17:37pm

re: #107 Charles

What was Andrew Breitbart's new name for me again? Oh yeah -- "Jazzy the Creepy Ponytailman!"

I kinda like it.

Saw him flipping out yesterday.

111 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:18:12pm

re: #109 3eff Jeff

I bet the intern deliberately turned on the OCR just to troll these guys. I'm just picturing said intern confessing that to Obama and the two of them having a good laugh.

They probably have OCR on by default.

112 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:18:30pm

re: #107 Charles

What was Andrew Breitbart's new name for me again? Oh yeah -- "Jazzy the Creepy Ponytailman!"

I kinda like it.

Breitbart has that 'LUNATIC' nic all locked up.

113 Simply Sarah  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:18:36pm

re: #107 Charles

What was Andrew Breitbart's new name for me again? Oh yeah -- "Jazzy the Creepy Ponytailman!"

I kinda like it.

I dunno. It's a bit long. Takes away some of the punch.

114 sagehen  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:19:03pm

Leave it to Huffpo to find a new angle to the controversy:

When discussing the lingering "birther" controversy, Obama remarked: "We're not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers."

Many in the carnival community were not amused by the mention of their industry.

"I am extremely upset by the reference," said Frank Zaitshik, who runs Wade Shows, a carnival business with over 100 amusement rides and attractions that entertains over 15 million people each year.

Zaitshik, a second generation carnival worker -- a term he prefers to the word "carny," which is used as a pejorative -- has spent much of his life battling negative stereotypes about his industry.

"I think what Obama said is the same type of stereotype that has been placed on African Americans." Zaitshik said. "You wouldn't expect those comments from someone who is a minority and has faced prejudice."

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

115 darthstar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:19:13pm

Fucking ILLEGAL Aliens...You can't trust any of them.

"I intend to speak before the United Nations tomorrow and inform them that I am renouncing my U.S. citizenship," he says in a cell in the issue. "I'm tired of having my actions construed as instruments of U.S. policy."

Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

One of my high school friends (now a freaking wingnut idiot) just posted this with "Is nothing sacred?" as her status on fb.

116 Big Steve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:20:19pm

re: #109 3eff Jeff

the OCR

OCR = Obama Controls Republicans

117 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:22:18pm

Bad news.

Apparently my invitation to the royal wedding was not lost in the mail.

118 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:22:22pm

A PDF will never do: it must be enshrined in a glass-fronted monstrance and paraded about all the cities of the realm for each and every free citizen to examine and decide whether it is authentic or not.

119 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:22:39pm

re: #115 darthstar

Fucking ILLEGAL Aliens...You can't trust any of them.

One of my high school friends (now a freaking wingnut idiot) just posted this with "Is nothing sacred?" as her status on fb.

To quote another comic strip -

oh good grief.

120 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:22:53pm

Nope. This isn't creepy.

//

121 Big Steve  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:23:28pm

re: #118 ralphieboy

A PDF will never do: it must be enshrined in a glass-fronted monstrance and paraded about all the cities of the realm for each and every free citizen to examine and decide whether it is authentic or not.

dont' forget that the bedsheets will have to be checked for blood to certify authenticity

122 Decatur Deb  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:23:36pm

re: #118 ralphieboy

I love it when you talk Catholic.

123 Sionainn  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:23:57pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Nope. This isn't creepy.

//

I'm sure he's quite popular with the ladies.
//

124 jaunte  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:24:01pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Is that a Snuggie™?

125 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:24:08pm

re: #119 wozzablog

To quote another comic strip -

oh good grief.

To quote Arnold:

He'll be back.

126 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:24:19pm

re: #124 jaunte

Is that a Snuggie™?

Yep.

127 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:24:32pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Nope. This isn't creepy.

//

Is he wearing a ... Surely it can't be?

Youtube Video
128 jaunte  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:24:47pm

re: #126 Gus 802

Plenty of room for beer!

129 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:25:07pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

I love it when you talk Catholic.

I dig monstrances.

And I have a Virgen de Guadalupe votive candle that I fire up on special occasions

130 zora  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:25:25pm

re: #115 darthstar

Fucking ILLEGAL Aliens...You can't trust any of them.

One of my high school friends (now a freaking wingnut idiot) just posted this with "Is nothing sacred?" as her status on fb.

tell her superman is not real.

131 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:25:56pm

re: #127 HAL2010

Is he wearing a ... Surely it can't be?

[Video]

A Snuggie™ and some Hot Pockets™!

Yay!

/

132 researchok  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:26:02pm

re: #130 zora

tell her superman is not real.

He isn't?

133 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:26:28pm

re: #130 zora

tell her superman is not real.

You lie!

134 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:26:40pm

re: #130 zora

tell her superman is not real.

But Batman is in the top 1%. Are you going to try to tell Batman he needs to pay more taxes? I don't think so.

135 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:28:10pm

re: #134 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But Batman is in the top 1%. Are you going to try to tell Batman he needs to pay more taxes? I don't think so.

Chuck Norris is probably in the top 10 %. Go on, raise taxes. I dare you.

136 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:29:14pm

re: #135 HAL2010

Chuck Norris is probably in the top 10 %. Go on, raise taxes. I dare you.

And what about the Gymkata guy? He's got to be right up there, right?

137 engineer cat  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:29:32pm

breaking!

British Royal Family Immigrants From Germany!!!

illegally changed name from 'saxe-coburg' to 'windsor' to pass as english

138 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:29:41pm

Superman: "I'm renouncing my American citizenship. From now on I want you to refer to me as Uberman!"

/

139 zora  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:30:09pm

re: #134 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But Batman is in the top 1%. Are you going to try to tell Batman he needs to pay more taxes? I don't think so.

tell him when he's bruce wayne. he's charitable.

140 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:32:33pm

I got an idea. And for the wingnuts we can have Superman move to Mexico...

Superhombre!

And instead of Clark Kent we can have Jesus Gonzalez.

//Splodey heads.

//

141 bubba zanetti  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:32:39pm

re: #111 Gus 802

They probably have OCR on by default.

I would hope not! Because what I want in an electronic document format is something i can't search or extract text from.

142 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:32:42pm

re: #135 HAL2010

We need to raise taxes.

Strange, I'm still alive.

143 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:32:51pm

re: #111 Gus 802

They probably have OCR on by default.

Make searchable (OCR) is on by default in Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro's scan settings. I just took a screen grab, this is the first window you see after navigating to File --> Create PDF --> From Scanner...

144 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:33:14pm

re: #137 engineer dog

breaking!

British Royal Family Immigrants From Germany!!!

illegally changed name from 'saxe-coburg' to 'windsor' to pass as english


Lord Mountbatten used to be Battenberg, but changed it during WWI

145 ProGunLiberal  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:33:16pm

re: #140 Gus 802

That name is much more awesome than Clark Kent.

146 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:34:02pm

re: #145 ProLifeLiberal

That name is much more awesome than Clark Kent.

Here was my other idea for Superman's new name...

سوبرمان

147 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:34:12pm

سوبرمان

148 Locker  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:34:18pm

re: #107 Charles

What was Andrew Breitbart's new name for me again? Oh yeah -- "Jazzy the Creepy Ponytailman!"

I kinda like it.

This is definitive proof that Breitbart is a moron. If he had even the slightest clue he would have called you Creepy the Jazzy Ponytail man. As it stands we get to call you Jazzy for short.

149 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:34:29pm

Oops. That doesn't work.

150 HAL2010  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:35:51pm

re: #142 ProLifeLiberal

Tell it to Chuck Norris face. His manly fist (hidden beneath his beard) will roundhouse kick you into a card carrying GOP member!

151 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:37:39pm

That Charles made this post is evidence that the conspiracy is deeper than anyone suspected. It's the Obama-Adobe-Charles triumvirate.

152 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:37:39pm

re: #109 3eff Jeff

I bet the intern deliberately turned on the OCR just to troll these guys. I'm just picturing said intern confessing that to Obama and the two of them having a good laugh.

You don't have to have OCR turned on. On or off, the PDF file still breaks different elements down into layers. It was off in the example above.

153 wrenchwench  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:41:07pm

re: #149 Gus 802

Oops. That doesn't work.

Worked in Spy, but not on this page. But the GoogleTranslate plugin worked on it in both places!

154 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:41:57pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

Worked in Spy, but not on this page. But the GoogleTranslate plugin worked on it in both places!

Yeah. I just noticed that. Also works when you open the post alone.

155 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:42:17pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

Moreover there is absolutely no way to change this default setting in Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro's Preferences, you must always take the step of unchecking Make Searchable (Run OCR) off for each new scan you wish to perform.

156 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:42:33pm

Of course the upshot to the Obama-Adobe-Charles triumvirate is that if you buy stock in Adobe you get to be part of the global conspiracy.

157 simoom  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:44:20pm

re: #152 Charles

Check out re: #8 elizajane. Fox Business Network actually had Geller on last night to push this crap. MM has the video clip.

158 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:44:26pm

re: #152 Charles

You don't have to have OCR turned on. On or off, the PDF file still breaks different elements down into layers. It was off in the example above.

So, the software engineers are in on it as well.

159 Petero1818  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:44:45pm

Obama: " Look, obviously you have noticed that there are layers and that this was not, um, accurate, but it was never really intended to be a factual birth certificate..."///

160 ElCapitanAmerica  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:49:44pm

Yes, this has nothing to do with OCR. What Acrobat is doing is optimizing the document by segmenting the scanned image into different components using different compression algorithms for several sections.

Images in PDF are rasters compressed by one of the following;
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

If you open the document in a hexeditor (or vi like I did), you can see the different XObject compression schemes used, I found;
* FlateDecode
* JBIG2Decode (only one raster uses this)
* DCTDecode

If the conspiracy theorist had half a brain, they would have guessed this had to do with a compression scheme since the images are divided into subdivided square areas.

BTW these are XObjects, Illustrator is intepreting them as layers but it really has nothing to do with layers.

161 Lidane  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:50:51pm

re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay. I called the President "crazy" for releasing his birth certificate.

He's crazy like a fox! He knew the idiots wouldn't stop.

Of course they wouldn't stop. This guy still has the nerve to be President.

It's all about the fact that there's a black man in the White House. Releasing the "long-form" and seeing folks like Geller double down on the birther issue just exposes their racism to the rest of the world at large, finally.

162 jaunte  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:51:47pm

re: #160 ElCapitanAmerica

So, you're saying there is a Malcolm XObject in the background?

163 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:54:07pm

re: #161 Lidane


I think you are onto something. This does put the GOP into a positino of actively denoucing and distancing themselves from birtherism or really being disadvantaged by their association to raving lunatics.

But the latter option has not seemed to bother them up to this point...

164 Canuckistan  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:54:22pm

re: #160 ElCapitanAmerica

A.k.a. "Mixed raster content compression," a.k.a. "layered compression."

There are lots of google explanations out there, it ain't rocket science.

Also, OMG LAYERGATE WTF!!!!

165 3CPO  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:56:34pm

re: #61 Sionainn

Dear god. National Geographic is in on this!

166 AK-47%  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:56:41pm

They dream of waking up to find that Charles has debunked the type font on the birth certificate and helped ´prove that it is as fake as Bush's national Guard leters...

167 Kragar  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:57:20pm

re: #161 Lidane

Of course they wouldn't stop. This guy still has the nerve to be President.

It's all about the fact that there's a black man in the White House. Releasing the "long-form" and seeing folks like Geller double down on the birther issue just exposes their racism to the rest of the world at large, finally.

You've got to wonder if Obama sometimes just says to his buddies "Watch this, they're going to go nuts" makes a statement, then gets back inside and they all bust out laughing as the Wingnuts go off.

/

168 Gus  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:57:26pm

Hasta later.

169 Lidane  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 2:57:30pm

re: #163 ralphieboy

I think you are onto something. This does put the GOP into a positino of actively denoucing and distancing themselves from birtherism or really being disadvantaged by their association to raving lunatics.

But the latter option has not seemed to bother them up to this point...

When the long form was released, I suddenly saw friends of mine on FB who NEVER post about politics, or who are self-identified Republicans wondering why Obama had to do this at all, what the point was, or why anyone cared when we have much bigger issues going on. It was like they finally started to see just how diseased the rest of the right wing was.

170 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:00:28pm

re: #36 freetoken

Idiocy everywhere... it's hard to battle.

Anyway, not quite so idiotic and definitely more courageous is the maker of this video from Tuscaloosa yesterday:

[Video]

Not quite so idiotic? I dunno. To me, the only smart thing to do in such a situation is dig a large hole with your bare hands, jump in, curl up in the fetal position, and whimper.

171 Lidane  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:01:28pm

re: #167 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You've got to wonder if Obama sometimes just says to his buddies "Watch this, they're going to go nuts" makes a statement, then gets back inside and they all bust out laughing as the Wingnuts go off.

/

I think at this point, he knows that everything he says and does is going to set the wingnuts off, so he just smiles and gets on with it.

People like Crazy Pam are beside themselves about the fact that a black man with an African name is in the White House. And his middle name is Hussein, which in Pam's world is a one-way ticket to Gitmo. That just makes her rage even harder, and now people outside the political junkie bubble are starting to see it.

172 ElCapitanAmerica  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:06:59pm

re: #164 Canuckistan

Thanks for posting the name of the technique, I think what it's doing is fairly obvious, but of course I guess not obvious enough for the hardcore birthers. I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm an optimist, I keep hoping people stop being idiotic but they don't fail to exceed my worst imagination.

173 Charles Johnson  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:09:06pm

re: #160 ElCapitanAmerica

Yes, this has nothing to do with OCR. What Acrobat is doing is optimizing the document by segmenting the scanned image into different components using different compression algorithms for several sections.

Images in PDF are rasters compressed by one of the following;
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

If you open the document in a hexeditor (or vi like I did), you can see the different XObject compression schemes used, I found;
* FlateDecode
* JBIG2Decode (only one raster uses this)
* DCTDecode

If the conspiracy theorist had half a brain, they would have guessed this had to do with a compression scheme since the images are divided into subdivided square areas.

BTW these are XObjects, Illustrator is intepreting them as layers but it really has nothing to do with layers.

The other hilarious example was the Freeper who opened the file with Photoshop, chose to import "Images", then screamed FRAUD! when most of the text showed up blank.

174 Lidane  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:15:55pm

re: #173 Charles

The other hilarious example was the Freeper who opened the file with Photoshop, chose to import "Images", then screamed FRAUD! when most of the text showed up blank.

Somewhere out there, the Adobe tutors at Lynda.com are twitching and they don't know why.

175 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:22:23pm

The most hilarious comment I heard was where they said that back then they would have called his father "Negro" on the certificate and that "African" sounded too modern and politically correct. I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything or I would have ruined my keyboard.

No, morons, the modern "politically correct" term is "African-American." And they called him African because he actually was from freaking Africa.

176 Lidane  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:24:23pm

re: #175 Tigger2005

The most hilarious comment I heard was where they said that back then they would have called his father "Negro" on the certificate and that "African" sounded too modern and politically correct. I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything or I would have ruined my keyboard.

No, morons, the modern "politically correct" term is "African-American." And they called him African because he actually was from freaking Africa.

That's Orly Taitz's idiocy. She immediately jumped on the whole "It should say Negro!" bit and started ranting again.

177 yoshicastmaster  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:29:53pm

bad crazy: [Link: slatest.slate.com...]

also, Charles, check the layers for an Easter Proclamation. I suspect it's in there somwhere.....

178 Lidane  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 3:39:59pm

re: #177 yoshicastmaster

bad crazy: [Link: slatest.slate.com...]

And that's Rasmussen, which is a GOP polling firm, IIRC. Not good news for the establishment Republicans, especially after Obama threw gas on Trump's fire by releasing the long-form birth certificate.

I'll be interested to see how Rasmussen's numbers change after this.

179 ihateronpaul  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 4:30:06pm

Well it looks like Charles was in on the scheme all along


I FUCKING KNEW IT!

/s

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 4:34:43pm

re: #6 Gus 802

Mars doesn't have any layers.

Ogres have layers.

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 4:36:08pm

re: #13 The Mountain That Blogs

You sure she didn't mean "Ayers"?

If Bill Ayers is secretly Obama's father, we have a really interesting situation on our hands.

If Bill Ayers is secretly Obama's mother, we have an even more interesting situation on our hands.

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 4:36:42pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

Oh, just shut up already Pam. You've been asking "Where's the birth certificate" and they finally oblige people like you and Donald Trump and you're still not happy. Go hug a EDL fascist.

Those guys don't look like they bathe regularly.

183 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 4:44:09pm

re: #61 Sionainn

The latest "question" I just ran into was "Kenya wasn't known as 'Kenya' until 1964."

Really?

That's a 1950 map. Clearly, the conspiracy must have started earlier than we thought.

Either that, or the National Geographic people altered it with layers. Check that image for layers, willya?

184 yasharki  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 4:50:42pm

Why would a raving blogging harpy have Adobe Illustrator installed in the first place? It's around 600 bucks/year for a licensed vesrion... Was her bogus outrage cooked on pirated software? She's mentioned Photoshop, Acrobat, and Illustrator, which suggests CSx Master Collection... A rather expensive toy for a drooling blogger.

185 Wozza Matter?  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 5:10:02pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

Ogres have layers.

Nice Shrek reference.

186 Artist  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 5:11:00pm

re: #63 HAL2010

DO NOT WANT

187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 5:50:27pm

re: #114 sagehen

Basil Exposition: What's the other thing that scares you?
Austin Powers: Carnies. Circus folk. Nomads, you know. Smell like cabbage. Small hands.

188 ElCapitanAmerica  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 7:34:50pm

re: #184 yasharki

Good point :-)

Anybody want to report her?
[Link: reporting.bsa.org...]

Too bad the BSA form is more for corporate piracy, does she have her own made up company ... ?

189 spiderx  Thu, Apr 28, 2011 10:15:08pm

The most dishonest man in America otherwise known as Bill O'reilly says no racism from the birthers.

Media Matters Video
190 samgak  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 12:09:35am

re: #184 yasharki

Why would a raving blogging harpy have Adobe Illustrator installed in the first place? It's around 600 bucks/year for a licensed vesrion... Was her bogus outrage cooked on pirated software? She's mentioned Photoshop, Acrobat, and Illustrator, which suggests CSx Master Collection... A rather expensive toy for a drooling blogger.

Pamela Gellar is a millionaire. You can possibly do some of this stuff with the trial version of the software anyway.

191 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 1:59:27am

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"FUCK YOU REALITY! YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME! GET ME ANOTHER GIN SMOOTHIE!"

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha gin smoothie dying

192 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 1:59:48am

re: #184 yasharki

Why would a raving blogging harpy have Adobe Illustrator installed in the first place? It's around 600 bucks/year for a licensed vesrion... Was her bogus outrage cooked on pirated software? She's mentioned Photoshop, Acrobat, and Illustrator, which suggests CSx Master Collection... A rather expensive toy for a drooling blogger.

Ever heard of bittorrent? :D

193 jerryF  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:29:36am

It's maybe time for theses idiots to ask somebody who REALLY knows something about graphic design. Layers in Ai aren't the same than in PSD. Same bullcrap with the "heat scan" or whatever it was called. Never heard about color profiles? This is so sad and pathetic.

194 MilkOfMalfeasance  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 1:12:35pm

Onions have layers too. Does that mean all onions came from Kenya and are Socialist Manchurian Onions?

195 maxwellp  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 2:13:52pm

Does anyone know why Karl Denninger, the market ticker, is pushing this fraud thing so hard? He made a youtube video and is posting about it on market ticker. He usually focuses on the economy, but he has really dug his heals in on this. There are guys who are posting to his blog trying to explaining some of the items discussed here, but he is dismissing them as 'obots'. Crazy, I've never seem he go off the deep end like this.

196 thekansascitian  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 2:53:15pm

The document can not be determined to be fake from the "evidence" MarketTicker and others are claiming and here is exctly why and how you can recreate the exact same things at home in less than 2 minutes with your own scanned in documents.

[Link: thekansascitian.blogspot.com...]


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