Top Climate Scientist on Tornadoes: ‘Irresponsible Not to Mention Climate Change’

‘Climate change is present in every single meteorological event’ - Michael Mann
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In the opinion of top climate scientist Dr. Kevin Trenberth, it’s “irresponsible not to mention climate change” in the context of the killer tornadoes this week in the South.

It is irresponsible not to mention climate change. … The environment in which all of these storms and the tornadoes are occurring has changed from human influences (global warming). Tornadoes come from thunderstorms in a wind shear environment. This occurs east of the Rockies more than anywhere else in the world. The wind shear is from southerly (SE, S or SW) flow from the Gulf overlaid by westerlies aloft that have come over the Rockies. That wind shear can be converted to rotation. The basic driver of thunderstorms is the instability in the atmosphere: warm moist air at low levels with drier air aloft. With global warming the low level air is warm and moister and there is more energy available to fuel all of these storms and increase the buoyancy of the air so that thunderstorms are strong. There is no clear research on changes in shear related to global warming. On average the low level air is 1 deg F and 4 percent moister than in the 1970s.

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499 comments
1 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:31:22pm

Thank you! No more royal wedding! Yes!

2 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:34:44pm

But it’s snowing in parts of the country! That proves that global warming is a hoax! HOAX!

3 Hal_10000  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:35:11pm

The problem is that you’re playing right into the deniers’ hands. When you say “bad weather X is related to global warming” despite an absence of any clear evidence saying so (just hand-wavy arguments, at best), they respond with “Hey, you blame everything on global warming!”

4 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:35:41pm

re: #2 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

what is with the purple type? Dude…

5 Political Atheist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:36:36pm

So what we learn is to not just build a “green” house, but a strong one as well. Insurance companies and FEMA need to be be strict about re settling people further away from flood zones, insist on “safe room” or strongroom basements in all housing developments in tornado prone areas, and much more. Building codes need to escalate along with the weather.
Climate change is going to change civilization a great deal. It may well do more to reduce the problem than we as humans do.

6 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:36:41pm

re: #4 brookly red

what is with the purple type? Dude…

You haven’t heard about the new wingnut tag that we have to play with now?

7 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:38:28pm

re: #6 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You haven’t heard about the new wingnut tag that we have to play with now?

no, but you look cute in purple…

8 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:39:49pm

re: #5 Rightwingconspirator

So what we learn is to not just build a “green” house, but a strong one as well. Insurance companies and FEMA need to be be strict about re settling people further away from flood zones, insist on “safe room” or strongroom basements in all housing developments in tornado prone areas, and much more. Building codes need to escalate along with the weather.
Climate change is going to change civilization a great deal. It may well do more to reduce the problem than we as humans do.

we can all learn something from the 3 little pigs.

9 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:40:04pm

re: #7 brookly red

no, but you look cute in purple…

Ah, alright. You just use the [wingnut] tag, substituting

10 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:40:43pm

re: #9 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ah, alright. You just use the [wingnut] tag, substituting

substituting [’s for

11 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:41:39pm

re: #10 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

substituting [’s for

it is OK the royal wedding thread is still going on…

12 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:42:43pm

The President’s response to Alabama, and his trip today does not meet with universal approval (via Slate):

Perry Blasts President Obama’s Emergency Response to Alabama Victims

[Link: www.myfoxdfw.com…]


Our state has at least 238 dead.

13 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:43:03pm

All I know is Brookly is happy about a AGW thread!

14 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:44:33pm

re: #7 brookly red

no, but you look cute in purple…

It’s a new font, Brookly. I first learned about from Iceweasel, though I am unsure if it was she who encoded it.

15 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:44:38pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea

All I know is Brookly is happy about a AGW thread!

there is a word I am thinking of that is insulting & empowering at the same time ;)

16 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:45:23pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

It’s a new font, Brookly. I first learned about from Iceweasel, though I am unsure if it was she who encoded it.

real men type in black & white, dang it.

17 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:46:43pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

The President’s response to Alabama, and his trip today does not meet with universal approval (via Slate):

Perry Blasts President Obama’s Emergency Response to Alabama Victims

[Link: www.myfoxdfw.com…]

Our state has at least 238 dead.

This is a really F’d situation, time for prayers over politics

18 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:47:11pm

Death toll of these tornadoes has now passed that of the Super Outbreak in 1974.

19 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:49:05pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Perry is a real embarrassment.

20 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:49:22pm

re: #18 ProLifeLiberal

Death toll of these tornadoes has now passed that of the Super Outbreak in 1974.

Question: what are tornadoes called out side the US ?

21 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:50:14pm

re: #20 brookly red

Question: what are tornadoes called out side the US ?

“Tempesti” in Italy, where the geography makes them rare.

22 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:50:24pm

re: #20 brookly red

Question: what are tornadoes called out side the US ?

Tourists?

23 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:50:53pm

It’s not climate, it’s god:

“I think these storms are God’s way of sending us a message. I think that message is that when warm humid air masses surge northward from the Gulf of Mexico and combine with a strong jet stream, it can result in severe weather conditions.”
—-Jimmy Kimmel

24 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:52:06pm

re: #18 ProLifeLiberal

Death toll of these tornadoes has now passed that of the Super Outbreak in 1974.

I was a student living north of Lexington, KY for that one. Stamping Ground was leveled, and the first help we saw was a convoy of black cars full of Mennonite carpenters.

25 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:52:21pm

Update on Libya. Tweet I found:

RT @ShababLibya: Gaddafi now on Libayan State TV, admit his son Khames was killed but claims that Italians killed him in battle #Libya

26 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:53:29pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Hearts and prayers for Alabama. Also, diapers, formula and ice.

27 srjh  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:55:58pm

re: #20 brookly red

Question: what are tornadoes called out side the US ?

In the English-speaking world, I’m pretty sure it’s still tornado, unlike cyclone/typhoon/hurricane/etc…

28 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:56:38pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

The President’s response to Alabama, and his trip today does not meet with universal approval (via Slate):

Perry Blasts President Obama’s Emergency Response to Alabama Victims

[Link: www.myfoxdfw.com…]

Our state has at least 238 dead.

Yet, I’ve no doubt that any action on Obama’s part to address those fires would have drawn Perry’s disapproval as well.

29 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:56:45pm

re: #3 Hal_10000

The problem is that you’re playing right into the deniers’ hands. When you say “bad weather X is related to global warming” despite an absence of any clear evidence saying so (just hand-wavy arguments, at best), they respond with “Hey, you blame everything on global warming!”

Except that this is just their misunderstanding of how science works. Nothing is ever 100% certain. It is merely accepted as the best explanation of the available data until a better explanation comes along or new data invalidates the current one.

They aren’t saying AGW caused this tornado outbreak. They are saying that AGW will likely result in increased frequency and intensity of storms - like this outbreak. Glossing over that fact doesn’t do anyone a favor.

30 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:57:42pm

whatever…our spring winds down in NM are getting serious, worst I’ve seen in 7 years….it’s been blowing all day again, 6% humidity and as far as you can see it’s a brown cloud of dust raging all down the valley….Sandia Mt a few miles behind he is barely visible….we’ve had a ton of this crap already…my patio vibe is shot, gotta keep the bunkhouse closed up and it’s just miserable outside…probably not global cooling

31 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:58:06pm

re: #25 ProLifeLiberal

Update on Libya. Tweet I found:

Only in sense that the Italians were engaged in military operations. Most NATO airstrikes are entirely one-sided, since Gaddafi doesn’t have the means to repel medium or high-level strike.

32 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 5:59:54pm

Prince William is going bald faster than his father.

33 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:00:56pm

re: #32 darthstar

Prince William is going bald faster than his father.

mention of royals! 5 yards, repeat first down.

34 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:01:10pm

re: #32 darthstar

Prince William is going bald faster than his father.

I am glad to see he got married, though…I didn’t even know Kate was pregnant!

35 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:02:27pm

re: #34 darthstar

I am glad to see he got married, though…I didn’t even know Kate was pregnant!

What does THAT mean?

36 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:02:32pm

re: #28 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yet, I’ve no doubt that any action on Obama’s part to address those fires would have drawn Perry’s disapproval as well.

the fact is Obama had as little control of this as Bush did over Katrina.

37 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:03:07pm

a tornado over water is a typhoon…mostly a Pacific thing

38 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:03:24pm

re: #35 Dark_Falcon

What does THAT mean?

Why else would they throw together a hasty wedding without all the bells and trimming?

39 Kronocide  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:03:29pm

Who is this William of Kate?

40 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:04:03pm

re: #32 darthstar

Prince William is going bald faster than his father.

Brookly is freaking out on the royal comments. keep it up! Did you see Victoria Beckham’s fucking HAT?

41 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:04:22pm

is this the Royal Gossip Corner?
is baldness a typical subject?

42 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:05:01pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

Brookly is freaking out on the royal comments. keep it up! Did you see Victoria Beckham’s fucking HAT?

if it gives you a reason to carry on…

43 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:05:11pm

re: #41 albusteve

is this the Royal Gossip Corner?
is baldness a typical subject?

Apparently this is becoming the FNDT.

44 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:05:26pm

re: #41 albusteve

is this the Royal Gossip Corner?
is baldness a typical subject?

Well, it’s hard to see the royal hemophilia.

45 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:05:40pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Khamis has been dead for a while I think. Remember the alleged Kamikaze bombing earlier? We haven’t heard or seen him since. Rumors of his death started around that time.

I found an interesting excerpt from an article in a privately held Egyptian News Paper (Al-Masry Al-Youm). The article was about the Salafis running for election in Egypt.

On Monday, prominent Islamic scholar Youssef al-Qaradawi leveled severe criticism at Egypt’s Salafi movement, describing its thinking as both stagnant and extreme.

Al-Qaradawi, who heads the International Union of Muslim Scholars, blamed the rise of Salafis on the absence of a substantial role for the moderate Islamic institution Al-Azhar.

The radical groups are ripping at each other? I f***ing hate the Salafis.

46 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:06:35pm

This is America, we don’t need so royals … oh no we don’t.

47 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:06:35pm

re: #43 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Apparently this is becoming the FNDT.

the FNDT is long dead amigo….if it comes back, that would be cool, but times change and it’s a different crowd….I had the time of my life on those old threads

48 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:07:17pm

re: #44 darthstar

Well, it’s hard to see the royal hemophilia.

you’ll make up for it, I’m sure

49 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:07:29pm

re: #47 albusteve

the FNDT is long dead amigo…if it comes back, that would be cool, but times change and it’s a different crowd…I had the time of my life on those old threads

wtf is fndt?

50 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:07:50pm

re: #47 albusteve

the FNDT is long dead amigo…if it comes back, that would be cool, but times change and it’s a different crowd…I had the time of my life on those old threads

If we pour it, they will come.

51 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:07:52pm

The only thing that would have made the wedding better would have been for the Salahis (that trashy reality TV couple who like to sneak into Washington events for photo ops) had managed to get front row seats.

52 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:08:12pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

If we pour it, they will come.

BARTENDER!

53 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:08:14pm

re: #37 albusteve

a tornado over water is a typhoon…mostly a Pacific thing

Incorrect.

54 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:08:50pm

re: #48 albusteve

you’ll make up for it, I’m sure

Oh, Steve…are you a royal wedding fan? I’ll give you a great deal on some commemorative plates and beanie babies.

55 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:08:51pm

re: #49 brookly red

wtf is fndt?

French Nude Doodlewang Team

56 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:08:52pm

How can you mention something that doesn’t exist?

57 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:08:56pm

re: #46 brookly red

This is America, we don’t need so royals … oh no we don’t.

But do we need big fluffy white wedding dresses, huge cakes, and mountains of flowers? Oh yes we do!

58 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:09:16pm

re: #51 darthstar

The only thing that would have made the wedding better would have been for the Salahis (that trashy reality TV couple who like to sneak into Washington events for photo ops) had managed to get front row seats.

We have comments on Salahis and Salafis. This could be a difficult FNDT.

59 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:09:19pm

re: #53 prononymous

Incorrect.

it was a trap…nice going

60 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:10:04pm

re: #59 albusteve

it was a trap…nice going

Enjoying the weather?

61 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:10:11pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

We have comments on Salahis and Salafis. This could be a difficult FNDT.

I’ll bet the Salagis are feeling ignored.

62 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:10:28pm

re: #40 Stanley Sea

Brookly is freaking out on the royal comments. keep it up! Did you see Victoria Beckham’s fucking HAT?

It was perfect!

63 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:10:36pm

re: #56 Lidane

you post, therefor you are.

64 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:10:49pm

re: #60 prononymous

Enjoying the weather?

no…I can’t breath well….I’m dying and you’re busting me about typhoons

65 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:11:35pm

re: #45 ProLifeLiberal

Khamis has been dead for a while I think. Remember the alleged Kamikaze bombing earlier? We haven’t heard or seen him since. Rumors of his death started around that time.

I found an interesting excerpt from an article in a privately held Egyptian News Paper (Al-Masry Al-Youm). The article was about the Salafis running for election in Egypt.

The radical groups are ripping at each other? I f***ing hate the Salafis.

Quite Concur.

66 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:11:53pm

re: #57 EmmmieG

But do we need big fluffy white wedding dresses, huge cakes, and mountains of flowers? Oh yes we do!

Damn skippy. My biggest guilty pleasure are those bridal shows on WEtv. They’re silly fun.

67 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:11:58pm

re: #55 albusteve

French Nude Doodlewang Team

is this a UN reference?

68 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:12:04pm

re: #50 Decatur Deb

If we pour it, they will come.

Then I’ll have a double.

69 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:12:17pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

We have comments on Salahis and Salafis. This could be a difficult FNDT.

see what I mean?….either post something really insulting or post some Stones…might even be a twofer in there

70 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:14:06pm

re: #67 brookly red

is this a UN reference?

an old tradition, the Friday Night Drinking Thread….a respite from the weekly turmoil sorta….big fun, posts piling up a mile a minute

71 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:14:40pm

re: #70 albusteve

an old tradition, the Friday Night Drinking Thread…a respite from the weekly turmoil sorta…big fun, posts piling up a mile a minute

Yesterday…all my troubles seemed so far away…

72 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:15:02pm

re: #70 albusteve

an old tradition, the Friday Night Drinking Thread…a respite from the weekly turmoil sorta…big fun, posts piling up a mile a minute

Not to be confused with the MMDTFC (Monday Morning Drinking Thread For Commuters)

73 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:15:29pm

re: #57 EmmmieG

But do we need big fluffy white wedding dresses, huge cakes, and mountains of flowers? Oh yes we do!

huge cakes are a trivial waste of resources that could be better spent feeding the poor, comrade.

74 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:15:45pm

re: #66 Lidane

Damn skippy. My biggest guilty pleasure are those bridal shows on WEtv. They’re silly fun.

“Say Yes To The Dress”. I think the wedding planner that gives a bride the wedding of her dreams is on WE, maybe Style.

75 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:16:00pm

re: #69 albusteve

see what I mean?…either post something really insulting or post some Stones…might even be a twofer in there

Would that get your rocks off?

Youtube Video
76 sod  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:17:20pm

Global warming has given me diarrhea tonight. The bag of jalapeño chips I had this afternoon and the pizza and beer I had tonight at the bowling alley may have been contributing factors also.

77 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:17:28pm

re: #69 albusteve

see what I mean?…either post something really insulting or post some Stones…might even be a twofer in there

“Your mother breeds out-of-season.”

(My favorite insult)

78 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:17:36pm

Watching the replay of the vows right now…she’s a cutie. Can’t wait for the blurry nekkid pics in the tabloids.

79 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:17:43pm

re: #71 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yesterday…all my troubles seemed so far away…

babes, we were then

80 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:18:29pm

re: #79 albusteve

babes, we were then

You’re still a babe.

81 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:18:30pm
Youtube Video
82 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:18:36pm

re: #78 darthstar

Watching the replay of the vows right now…she’s a cutie. Can’t wait for the blurry nekkid pics in the tabloids.

They’d be out already.

83 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:19:19pm

re: #74 prairiefire

“Say Yes To The Dress”. I think the wedding planner that gives a bride the wedding of her dreams is on WE, maybe Style.

I love that My Fair Wedding show. He takes people who would otherwise have horribly tacky weddings made of fail and gives them something classy and nice. It’s fun.

Bridezilla reminds me why I’ve never been a girlie-girl princess. I want to strangle those women. Ugh.

84 Kid A  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:19:27pm

I’m late to their party, but man, do the Black Keys kick some serious ass. Might make me give up my Radiohead obsession. Probably not…

Your text to link…

85 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:20:11pm

re: #83 Lidane

I love that My Fair Wedding show. He takes people who would otherwise have horribly tacky weddings made of fail and gives them something classy and nice. It’s fun.

Bridezilla reminds me why I’ve never been a girlie-girl princess. I want to strangle those women. Ugh.

I can understand why they are getting married, sort of.

I don’t understand where they get bridesmaids from.

86 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:20:16pm

I am actually going out to get some… wait for it … pizza & beer.

87 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:20:18pm

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

What makes this strange for me is the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is itself hyper-conservative. So hearing that nasty of a comment is surprising.

My feelings against the Salafis are fairly unvarnished right now. You see, as a result of money issues, I haven’t had my medicines to help with the AS in 4 days.

88 darthstar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:20:19pm

Fuckin’ Shiba Inus…they really are cute. Like large furry slugs sleeping together.
[Link: www.hollywoodreporter.com…]

89 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:21:08pm

re: #81 prononymous

[Video]

now that’s what we’re talkin about!
barrelhouse

90 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:21:41pm

re: #87 ProLifeLiberal

What makes this strange for me is the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is itself hyper-conservative. So hearing that nasty of a comment is surprising.

My feelings against the Salafis are fairly unvarnished right now. You see, as a result of money issues, I haven’t had my medicines to help with the AS in 4 days.

what is a Salafis?

91 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:23:48pm

re: #90 brookly red

I guess the more proper term is Salafist. I’m not sure why I started calling them that.

92 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:23:51pm

re: #81 prononymous

ha!…ass kickin!
I loved it

93 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:24:19pm

re: #90 brookly red

what is a Salafis?

MIDDLE EAST SALAFISM’S INFLUENCE AND THE RADICALIZATION OF MUSLIM COMMUNITIES IN EUROPE

94 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:26:05pm

re: #85 EmmmieG

I can understand why they are getting married, sort of.

I don’t understand where they get bridesmaids from.

The Underworld

95 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:27:01pm

re: #87 ProLifeLiberal

Have you talked to anyone at the 211 phone bank about meds? They should know what’s available.

96 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:27:16pm

re: #91 ProLifeLiberal

I guess the more proper term is Salafist. I’m not sure why I started calling them that.

what is that?

97 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:27:35pm

re: #87 ProLifeLiberal

What makes this strange for me is the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is itself hyper-conservative. So hearing that nasty of a comment is surprising.

My feelings against the Salafis are fairly unvarnished right now. You see, as a result of money issues, I haven’t had my medicines to help with the AS in 4 days.

I know what that’s like. I had only one sale this month (with multiple others going down the drain due to commitments to Japan and Mississippi). So I lost needed money, but because others needed those people even more I can’t even be pissed at them. It just sucks. I’ll find a way to get through it, but May isn’t going to fun.

98 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:27:47pm

re: #93 researchok

thank you.

99 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:28:17pm

re: #96 brookly red

what is that?

jihadi freaks

100 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:28:43pm

re: #84 Kid A

The Black Keys are the bomb.
/and I was totally listening to them before everyone else thought they were cool.
///

101 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:29:55pm

re: #99 albusteve

jihadi freaks

re: #99 albusteve

jihadi freaks

seems like there should be some kind of preventative measure

102 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:29:57pm

re: #99 albusteve

Who are unable to think. These are the kind of people that burn books by Avicenna and Averroes. They are not intelligent or enlightened. They are the reason Islam is in the sorry state it’s in.

103 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:30:14pm

re: #100 Slumbering Behemoth

They are. They are going to be at a 2 day rock fest at the race track in KS with Enimen and Muse. Crazy big show.

104 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:32:12pm

re: #101 brookly red

re: #99 albusteve

seems like there should be some kind of preventative measure

death, pretty much

105 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:32:25pm

re: #102 ProLifeLiberal

Who are unable to think. These are the kind of people that burn books by Avicenna and Averroes. They are not intelligent or enlightened. They are the reason Islam is in the sorry state it’s in.

the other day a guy was walking down the street screaming at people that were not there… he took offense at me (of all people) I really didn’t care why.

106 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:34:02pm

re: #104 albusteve

death, pretty much

I am really pro life until it comes to national security…

107 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:34:09pm

And back to the wedding. Some Muslim dude I follow on twitter, via the Egypt #Jan 25 said: Nothing different from her gown ensemble than the hajib other than it’s white. Or something like that.

I laughed.

108 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:35:06pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

And back to the wedding. Some Muslim dude I follow on twitter, via the Egypt #Jan 25 said: Nothing different from her gown ensemble than the hajib other than it’s white. Or something like that.

I laughed.

Hajibs have tiaras? Cool.

109 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:36:03pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

And back to the wedding. Some Muslim dude I follow on twitter, via the Egypt #Jan 25 said: Nothing different from her gown ensemble than the hajib other than it’s white. Or something like that.

I laughed.

It might be interesting to find the picture of the Egyptian couple in front of the APC in Tahrir square—-

110 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:36:08pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

And back to the wedding. Some Muslim dude I follow on twitter, via the Egypt #Jan 25 said: Nothing different from her gown ensemble than the hajib other than it’s white. Or something like that.

I laughed.

you should not laugh, he is serious and that is something we all will need to deal with.

111 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:37:26pm

re: #87 ProLifeLiberal

re: #95 Decatur Deb

Have you talked to anyone at the 211 phone bank about

meds? They should know what’s available.

Also PLL, if you don’t have prescription drug coverage insurance but do have a Costco membership, check out their plan. (.pdf) It saved me a lot of money on BP meds when I was between plans.

112 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:37:52pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

That picture was so awesome I saved it.

Here it is.

113 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:38:02pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

It might be interesting to find the picture of the Egyptian couple in front of the APC in Tahrir square—-

Image: egyptwedding.jpg

114 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:38:48pm

re: #110 brookly red

you should not laugh, he is serious and that is something we all will need to deal with.

FEAR!

115 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:39:42pm

re: #101 brookly red

re: #99 albusteve

seems like there should be some kind of preventative measure

McDonalds, Barbies, and cable TV.

116 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:39:48pm

re: #112 ProLifeLiberal

That picture was so awesome I saved it.

Here it is.

It makes me so happy to see that again. Seriously.

117 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:40:17pm

re: #112 ProLifeLiberal

re: #113 Stanley Sea

Is there any way that dress could be considered a hajib?

118 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:40:55pm

re: #110 brookly red

you should not laugh, he is serious and that is something we all will need to deal with.

True that. And his ilk are numerous in England now.

119 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:40:56pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea

The posting of the picture proves something. If you ask for something on LGF, it will be found multiple times.

120 blueraven  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:43:36pm

re: #30 albusteve

whatever…our spring winds down in NM are getting serious, worst I’ve seen in 7 years…it’s been blowing all day again, 6% humidity and as far as you can see it’s a brown cloud of dust raging all down the valley…Sandia Mt a few miles behind he is barely visible…we’ve had a ton of this crap already…my patio vibe is shot, gotta keep the bunkhouse closed up and it’s just miserable outside…probably not global cooling

Same here in central TX. Not the dust part so much but just dry and crazy windy.

121 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:46:00pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

re: #113 Stanley Sea

Is there any way that dress could be considered a hajib?

no idea.

122 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:46:48pm

Seems to have been a quiet casualty on the Fischer thread.

123 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:48:09pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

no idea.

People mentioned at the time that it was obviously tailored to a conservative spec.

124 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:49:27pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

Probably not, as the arms and and collarbone were only covered with lace. I have to wonder about the probability of sarcasm in the guy’s comment.

125 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:51:40pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

Seems to have been a quiet casualty on the Fischer thread.

Which one was that? I’ve got some charcoal saved up. Enough to roast two trolls and then no more till I get paid.

126 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:52:38pm

re: #124 ProLifeLiberal

Probably not, as the arms and and collarbone were only covered with lace. I have to wonder about the probability of sarcasm in the guy’s comment.

Oh he was totally sarcastic. They were pissed that the eyes of the world were tuned into the wedding vs. the Friday uprisings.

127 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:54:15pm

re: #126 Stanley Sea

One things certain. There are shallow people all over the world.

128 Stanghazi  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:54:30pm

Like you care, but I’m going out to dinner. Beef Wellington it is for me tonight. Is that in honor of the Royals? who knows, this restaurant is amazing.

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:55:59pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

Like you care

I don’t, but it’s either this or pr0n.
/

Enjoy your meal.

130 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:56:45pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

Which one was that? I’ve got some charcoal saved up. Enough to roast two trolls and then no more till I get paid.

I missed the action—there is nothing left but a fading grin.

131 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 6:59:38pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Probably just a little turd that caught an open reg and took that opportunity to spew stupid crap.

132 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:01:16pm

Lisa De Moraes, WAPO:

It has been breathlessly reported in the press that nearly a third of the world’s population will watch Friday’s royal wedding between Prince William and Kate Middleton.

Presumably, the other two-thirds will be too busy dodging shrapnel, or searching for potable water, to watch the adorable couple exchange vows at Westminster Abbey. Hopefully, they’ll DVR it and watch later.


The estimate wild guess is apparently from Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]

133 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:07:14pm

Hey fellow Lizards, posting from a Florida hotel right now, when I get back I should hopefully be able to find some interesting pictures of everything BUT a shuttle launch to show you guys…

That’s the downside of being the guy with the most flexible vacation schedule in the family…. even if it was going to happen Sunday at 2:30 we still wouldn’t be able to see it and then make our plane flight out in time to be at work on Monday…

So barring some kind of beneficial act of G-d I won’t get to see the last manned spaceflight take off from inside the USA for the foreseeable future.

QQ

At least the vacation has been fun so far and I should be going to Sea World tommorow!

134 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:09:36pm

re: #132 jaunte

Presumably, the other two-thirds will be too busy dodging shrapnel, or searching for potable water, to watch the adorable couple exchange vows at Westminster Abbey.

Fuck those miserable people, there’s a goddamned royal wedding on tv.
///

135 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:09:48pm

From a William Gibson tweet:

The first zombie-proof house.
[Link: all-that-is-interesting.com…]
This kind of mega-shutter may also be helpful against high winds.

136 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:11:09pm

re: #133 jamesfirecat

NASA has Atlantis for 28 Jun, if you’re that flexible.

137 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:12:13pm

re: #115 prononymous

McDonalds, Barbies, and cable TV.

good point, so good let’s pretend it is not happening. shsss!

138 albusteve  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:12:27pm

re: #133 jamesfirecat

Hey fellow Lizards, posting from a Florida hotel right now, when I get back I should hopefully be able to find some interesting pictures of everything BUT a shuttle launch to show you guys…

That’s the downside of being the guy with the most flexible vacation schedule in the family… even if it was going to happen Sunday at 2:30 we still wouldn’t be able to see it and then make our plane flight out in time to be at work on Monday…

So barring some kind of beneficial act of G-d I won’t get to see the last manned spaceflight take off from inside the USA for the foreseeable future.

QQ

At least the vacation has been fun so far and I should be going to Sea World tommorow!

Disney World would be worth the entire trip

139 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:13:00pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

Like you care, but I’m going out to dinner. Beef Wellington it is for me tonight. Is that in honor of the Royals? who knows, this restaurant is amazing.

more like in honor or the rube?

140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:14:07pm

re: #135 jaunte

Looks cool, but how does it hold up against super-mutants?

141 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:14:13pm

re: #137 brookly red

good point, so good let’s pretend it is not happening. shsss!

I meant for them. We are already pacified.

142 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:15:23pm

re: #141 prononymous

I meant for them. We are already pacified.

yes I hear you…

143 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:15:31pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

For those you have to use the 155mm Bauhaus mortars.

144 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:15:56pm

re: #29 prononymous

Except that this is just their misunderstanding of how science works. Nothing is ever 100% certain. It is merely accepted as the best explanation of the available data until a better explanation comes along or new data invalidates the current one.

They aren’t saying AGW caused this tornado outbreak. They are saying that AGW will likely result in increased frequency and intensity of storms - like this outbreak. Glossing over that fact doesn’t do anyone a favor.

weather is not climate. pretending otherwise plays into the hands of deniers who like to point out warm winters and other things that have nothing to do with global warming. also, tornadoes.

Trenberth is a great scientist and a shitty evangelist. This tornado outbreak, per the NOAA, is a random unusual confluence of arctic air and warm gulf air, more related to el nino phenomena than anything else.

global warming is modeled to warm the poles more quickly than the equator. theoretically, that should result in bad flooding but less wind shear.

Trenberth knows this, and does science no favors for pretending otherwise. If we’re going to pretend, we might as well pretend there’s no global warming and save ourselves the trouble.

145 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:15:58pm

re: #136 Decatur Deb

NASA has Atlantis for 28 Jun, if you’re that flexible.

28th of June? Not happening.

That’s doubtlessly the same time as Origins in Columbus and if it comes down to a choice between being in Ohio for four days straight of playing card + table top games, against watching man kind break through the surly bonds of gravity to punch the sky in the face…. I’ll be the guy asking anyone if they want to play a quick best two out of three match of Magic The Gathering at 3 in the morning outside the second floor elevator of the Hyatt….

Sides, we had “special” (in the sense of only a couple thousand people or so had similar ones) tickets to this launch so we were gonna be about as close as any normal civilian can get to this kind of thing….

146 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:16:29pm

re: #138 albusteve

Disney World would be worth the entire trip

We did that last time we were down here so this time we’re doing Sea World instead.

147 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:17:20pm

re: #145 jamesfirecat

28th of June? Not happening.

That’s doubtlessly the same time as Origins in Columbus and if it comes down to a choice between being in Ohio for four days straight of playing card + table top games, against watching man kind break through the surly bonds of gravity to punch the sky in the face… I’ll be the guy asking anyone if they want to play a quick best two out of three match of Magic The Gathering at 3 in the morning outside the second floor elevator of the Hyatt…

Sides, we had “special” (in the sense of only a couple thousand people or so had similar ones) tickets to this launch so we were gonna be about as close as any normal civilian can get to this kind of thing…

dude, i work in Columbus Tues-Fri. any chance we can meet for a beer? i swear you’ll hate me less in person…

148 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:19:31pm

re: #147 Aceofwhat?

dude, i work in Columbus Tues-Fri. any chance we can meet for a beer? i swear you’ll hate me less in person…

if your buying beer how could anyone hate you?

149 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:19:43pm

re: #145 jamesfirecat

28th of June? Not happening.

That’s doubtlessly the same time as Origins in Columbus and if it comes down to a choice between being in Ohio for four days straight of playing card + table top games, against watching man kind break through the surly bonds of gravity to punch the sky in the face… I’ll be the guy asking anyone if they want to play a quick best two out of three match of Magic The Gathering at 3 in the morning outside the second floor elevator of the Hyatt…

Sides, we had “special” (in the sense of only a couple thousand people or so had similar ones) tickets to this launch so we were gonna be about as close as any normal civilian can get to this kind of thing…

Enjoy Origins. I go to GenCon. I still plan to get there this year, but I’ll need the good sales month I expect May to be to make than happen.

150 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:19:54pm

re: #148 brookly red

if your buying beer how could anyone hate you?

exaaaactly

151 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:20:02pm

re: #147 Aceofwhat?

dude, i work in Columbus Tues-Fri. any chance we can meet for a beer? i swear you’ll hate me less in person…

Possibly though I don’t drink.

Do you work near the Hyatt Hotel?

It’s the only relevant Columbus landmark I know since you can more or less if you’re lucky get a room on the fourth floor and slide down a pole into the convention hall…

(Okay not really but you couldn’t possibly sleep closer to the Origins convention hall without setting up a tent inside the place…_)

152 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:20:18pm

Evening Lizards. 22 hours and counting since my last cigarette.

153 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:21:03pm

re: #152 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards. 22 hours and counting since my last cigarette.

have you slept?

154 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:21:23pm

re: #152 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards. 22 hours and counting since my last cigarette.

Good luck and stay strong man, if nothing else just grit your teeth and think of all the money you’ll be saving!

155 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:21:52pm

re: #144 Aceofwhat?

weather is not climate. pretending otherwise plays into the hands of deniers who like to point out warm winters and other things that have nothing to do with global warming. also, tornadoes.

Trenberth is a great scientist and a shitty evangelist. This tornado outbreak, per the NOAA, is a random unusual confluence of arctic air and warm gulf air, more related to el nino phenomena than anything else.

global warming is modeled to warm the poles more quickly than the equator. theoretically, that should result in bad flooding but less wind shear.

Trenberth knows this, and does science no favors for pretending otherwise. If we’re going to pretend, we might as well pretend there’s no global warming and save ourselves the trouble.

Except that the science does say the frequency and intensity of storms will likely increase with increasing global temperature. That increases the probability of storms like this happening. That’s the point that shouldn’t be avoided.

156 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:22:36pm

re: #153 brookly red

have you slept?

Yes. The first 8 hrs of sleep were after my last smoke. Ask me that question in the morning.

157 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:23:27pm

re: #151 jamesfirecat

Possibly though I don’t drink.

Do you work near the Hyatt Hotel?

It’s the only relevant Columbus landmark I know since you can more or less if you’re lucky get a room on the fourth floor and slide down a pole into the convention hall…

(Okay not really but you couldn’t possibly sleep closer to the Origins convention hall without setting up a tent inside the place…_)

i don’t necessarily work near the Hyatt and i don’t require alcohol to enjoy an evening (someone closer to the NYC area than me should make sure that Brookly still has a pulse at the moment) but if you’re going to be in Columbus with nothing better to do than wait for the next morning’s convention, the Coke Zero is on me.

(i don’t drink regular coke/pepsi. we all have our virtues…)

158 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:23:51pm

re: #156 Bubblehead II

Yes. The first 8 hrs of sleep were after my last smoke. Ask me that question in the morning.

you will be just fine

159 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:25:03pm

re: #134 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuck those miserable people, there’s a goddamned royal wedding on tv.
///

On that note….

People will remember one of two things about June of 2009. Either the fact that Michael Jackson died, or that the Iranian gov’t brutally repressed it’s own people’s protests with violence and murder.

Any bets on which event more folks will remember?

160 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:26:29pm

re: #159 Slumbering Behemoth

On that note…

People will remember one of two things about June of 2009. Either the fact that Michael Jackson died, or that the Iranian gov’t brutally repressed it’s own people’s protests with violence and murder.

Any bets on which event more folks will remember?

the Iranians killed Michael Jackson… got it!

161 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:27:25pm

re: #154 jamesfirecat

Good luck and stay strong man, if nothing else just grit your teeth and think of all the money you’ll be saving!

Well, it is either quit or be on O2 in about 2 yrs according to the Croaker.

Nothing like a quit or die option to convince you to change you ways.

162 Political Atheist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:27:44pm

re: #156 Bubblehead II

Good for you. It does get easier. (quit twenty something years ago…)

163 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:27:58pm

re: #157 Aceofwhat?

i don’t necessarily work near the Hyatt and i don’t require alcohol to enjoy an evening (someone closer to the NYC area than me should make sure that Brookly still has a pulse at the moment) but if you’re going to be in Columbus with nothing better to do than wait for the next morning’s convention, the Coke Zero is on me.

(i don’t drink regular coke/pepsi. we all have our virtues…)

We’ll see, my days in Columbus normally consist of running form one event to another till midnight and then collapsing into bed before once more rushing off to repeat the process come morning.

Also I’ll have to turn down the coke zero or similar offers, my drinking habbits are sort of weird in that I never really “got” carbonated drinks and don’t like them. I used to drink lots of gatorade cause I like the taste, and still do drink it or lemonade when I’m dinning out but when I’m at home I tend to get through the day drinking nothing but water with lots of ice in it.

If you put enough ice in water it has a “taste” of sorts and it saves a guy a around 200 calories a day the way I liked to pound down extra strong gatorade…)

164 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:28:18pm

re: #159 Slumbering Behemoth

On that note…

People will remember one of two things about June of 2009. Either the fact that Michael Jackson died, or that the Iranian gov’t brutally repressed it’s own people’s protests with violence and murder.

Any bets on which event more folks will remember?

I won’t remember the date. I will remember the failed Green Revolution, though.

And Neda.

165 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:28:50pm

re: #160 brookly red

Damnit, but that made me laugh. I feel dirty now.
/

166 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:29:02pm

Qaddafi is getting desperate:

3:38am
Gaddafi has called for negotiations with NATO powers to end the air strikes over Libya.

We did not attack them or cross the sea … why are they attacking us? Let us negotiate with you, the countries that attack us. Let us negotiate.

He added that if it was oil the coalition countries were after, there was no problem in negotiating them.

I hope the only negotiation he’ll get is how he will be sent to hell.

167 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:29:52pm

re: #166 ProLifeLiberal

Qaddafi is getting desperate:

He added that if it was oil the coalition countries were after, there was no problem in negotiating them.

I hope the only negotiation he’ll get is how he will be sent to hell.

Ideally with a laser-guided bomb down his throat.

168 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:30:39pm

re: #155 prononymous

Except that the science does say the frequency and intensity of storms will likely increase with increasing global temperature. That increases the probability of storms like this happening. That’s the point that shouldn’t be avoided.

Nope. The science says that the poles will warm more frequently than the equator as AGW progresses. The science also says that such differentials are better predictors of storm intensity than overall global temps. Lack of such differentials, therefore, should not cause furor about future storm intensities.

If it were otherwise, you would find an increase in very strong hurricanes and very strong tornadoes in the past century correlated with the [quite real] increase in temperatures in the past century.

Should you find such a correlation, i recommend that you apply immediately for large funding, because i think you’d be the first.

Remember, it helps no one to hype global warming when solid evidence is lacking. We have enough trouble convincing the remaining doubters/deniers with the solid evidence we already possess. Making claims unsupported by the existing science only serves to make deniers think there’s some ‘agenda’ behind the scenes.

169 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:30:47pm

re: #162 Rightwingconspirator

Good for you. It does get easier. (quit twenty something years ago…)

Thanks. I just wish they (Both the Doc and Intern) hadn’t also told me I also have to cut down on my coffee/caffeine intake. I got a double whammy for the cost of one.

170 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:30:52pm

re: #165 Slumbering Behemoth

Damnit, but that made me laugh. I feel dirty now.
/

/It’s true! Billie Jean was the code name for a Mossad agent!11!!

171 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:32:30pm

re: #161 Bubblehead II

Well, it is either quit or be on O2 in about 2 yrs according to the Croaker.

Nothing like a quit or die option to convince you to change you ways.

Some people find these types of facts help…

In 20 minutes, your blood pressure and pulse rate decrease, and the body temperature of your hands and feet increase.
Carbon monoxide in cigarette smoke reduces the blood’s ability to carry oxygen.

At 8 hours, the carbon monoxide level in your blood decreases to normal. With the decrease in carbon monoxide, your blood oxygen level increases to normal.

At 24 hours, your risk of having a heart attack decreases.

At 48 hours, nerve endings start to regrow and the ability to smell and taste is enhanced.

Between 2 weeks and 3 months, your circulation improves, walking becomes easier and you don’t cough or wheeze as often. Phlegm production decreases. Within several months, you have significant improvement in lung function.

In 1 to 9 months, coughs, sinus congestion, fatigue and shortness of breath decrease as you continue to see significant improvement in lung function. Cilia, tiny hair-like structures that move mucus out of the lungs, regain normal function.

In 1 year, risk of coronary heart disease and heart attack is reduced to half that of a smoker.

Between 5 and 15 years after quitting, your risk of having a stroke returns to that of a non-smoker.

In 10 years, your risk of lung cancer drops. Additionally, your risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus, bladder, kidney and pancreas decrease. Even after a decade of not smoking however, your risk of lung cancer remains higher than in people who have never smoked. Your risk of ulcer also decreases.

In 15 years, your risk of coronary heart disease and heart attack in similar to that of people who have never smoked. The risk of death returns to nearly the level of a non-smoker.

Your body is already healthier than it was yesterday. Keep that going, don’t give up the improvements to your health you’ve already made.

172 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:33:27pm

re: #163 jamesfirecat

We’ll see, my days in Columbus normally consist of running form one event to another till midnight and then collapsing into bed before once more rushing off to repeat the process come morning.

Also I’ll have to turn down the coke zero or similar offers, my drinking habbits are sort of weird in that I never really “got” carbonated drinks and don’t like them. I used to drink lots of gatorade cause I like the taste, and still do drink it or lemonade when I’m dinning out but when I’m at home I tend to get through the day drinking nothing but water with lots of ice in it.

If you put enough ice in water it has a “taste” of sorts and it saves a guy a around 200 calories a day the way I liked to pound down extra strong gatorade…)

that’s cool.

let me know if you think you might have a free evening, i’ll email you my cell#. otherwise, have a great time, and may i randomly say that your drinking habits sound eminently healthy and worth a random upding.

173 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:34:34pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

Eh, I prefer letting the rebels who have lost family and friends getting their hands on him. The US estimates that as much as .5% of the country has been killed in the fighting. That’s fairly deadly for a Civil War, though not nearly as bad as our own. Our Civil War was one of the worst demographically, with 1.5-2% of the population dead after it.

174 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:34:36pm

re: #170 brookly red

/It’s true! Billie Jean was the code name for a Mossad agent!11!!

And Thriller was meant to provide codes to CIA agents in Easter Europe.

/Alex Jones

175 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:34:51pm

re: #171 McSpiff

Some people find these types of facts help…

Your body is already healthier than it was yesterday. Keep that going, don’t give up the improvements to your health you’ve already made.

and then I look a my poor 89 year old mother in the nursing home and think, hmmm maybe I don’t want this so much.

176 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:35:25pm

re: #171 McSpiff

Thanks for the info. Hearted for future reference.

177 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:35:56pm

re: #32 darthstar

Prince William is going bald faster than his father.

There is a powerful horsefacedness in the House of Windsor. And the men lose their hair.

Nothing wrong with that, either, but I’ve been reading too much Royal Wedding crap in passing as I go about the Internet, and it annoys me when people swoon over how handsome Harry is, (he’s fine. David Beckham he’s not) and then mock his cousins, Andrew’s girls, for being plain.

178 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:36:30pm

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

And Thriller was meant to provide codes to CIA agents in Easter Europe.

/Alex Jones

yeah… and “Hope & Change” was the signal for the communists to attack!

179 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:36:37pm

Somebody on the Al-Jazeera Live Blog just pointed out that Qaddafi would seem to be trying to bribe NATO with Libya’s natural resources.

180 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:36:54pm

re: #172 Aceofwhat?

that’s cool.

let me know if you think you might have a free evening, i’ll email you my cell#. otherwise, have a great time, and may i randomly say that your drinking habits sound eminently healthy and worth a random upding.

Our best shot would probably be Tuesday night, since if memory serves, events don’t start till Wendsday, and since I still don’t have my own Driver’s Liscence yet (and heck come to think of it, it wouldn’t do me much good since I won’t have a car in Ohio) our best chance of meeting up would be Tuesday Night at the Hyatt…

We’ll see how things play out…

181 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:37:12pm

re: #177 SanFranciscoZionist

There is a powerful horsefacedness in the House of Windsor. And the men lose their hair.

Nothing wrong with that, either, but I’ve been reading too much Royal Wedding crap in passing as I go about the Internet, and it annoys me when people swoon over how handsome Harry is, (he’s fine. David Beckham he’s not) and then mock his cousins, Andrew’s girls, for being plain.

I don’t think they’re plain. I think they’re both lovely.

They just wear alien creatures on their heads as hats.

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:37:20pm

re: #46 brookly red

This is America, we don’t need so royals … oh no we don’t.

We have the best of it. We can watch them do stuff, and criticize their clothes, but we don’t need to feel patriotic about them, or subsidize their stuff.

183 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:37:23pm

re: #175 brookly red

and then I look a my poor 89 year old mother in the nursing home and think, hmmm maybe I don’t want this so much.

was i holding a sign that said ‘please stick a .44 into the mouth of my buzz and ask if it feels lucky’??

because i don’t think i was holding that sign. let me check. yep, no sign/

184 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:37:44pm

re: #175 brookly red

and then I look a my poor 89 year old mother in the nursing home and think, hmmm maybe I don’t want this so much.

If I end up as an 89 year old woman in a nursing home, I’ll probably take up smoking.

185 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:39:03pm

re: #184 McSpiff

If I end up as an 89 year old woman in a nursing home, I’ll probably take up smoking.

hahahah! too late! they don’t allow smoking or drinking!


they will never take me alive!

186 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:39:04pm

re: #177 SanFranciscoZionist

There is a powerful horsefacedness in the House of Windsor. And the men lose their hair.

Nothing wrong with that, either, but I’ve been reading too much Royal Wedding crap in passing as I go about the Internet, and it annoys me when people swoon over how handsome Harry is, (he’s fine. David Beckham he’s not) and then mock his cousins, Andrew’s girls, for being plain.

at the risk of being crude…my favorite comment whenever i see prince charles is “inbreeding is a b(*ch”.

;)

187 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:39:55pm

re: #186 Aceofwhat?

Image: 13034-004-AB54004A.jpg

Who pissed in my gene pool?

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:40:32pm

re: #108 EmmmieG

Hajibs have tiaras? Cool.

Only if you’re royalty.

Some dumbass site did a reader poll of prettiest royals. Kate was number three. First two were Grace Kelly and Princess Rania.

(I can’t argue with Grace Kelly. I can’t even argue with Rania. I have political issues, but she is a very pretty woman.)

189 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:40:36pm

re: #182 SanFranciscoZionist

We have the best of it. We can watch them do stuff, and criticize their clothes, but we don’t need to feel patriotic about them, or subsidize their stuff.

I agree… now think about that subsidize thing again.

190 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:40:57pm

re: #180 jamesfirecat

Our best shot would probably be Tuesday night, since if memory serves, events don’t start till Wendsday, and since I still don’t have my own Driver’s Liscence yet (and heck come to think of it, it wouldn’t do me much good since I won’t have a car in Ohio) our best chance of meeting up would be Tuesday Night at the Hyatt…

We’ll see how things play out…

i’m at my nic @ gmail. so if Tuesday is moving along slowly and i’d spice things up by stopping by, send me a word. otherwise, no worries.

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:41:49pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

FEAR!

Fear wedding dresses with sleeves? And Brookly, that dress wouldn’t pass muster at a Chassidic wedding, so I doubt Mr. Egyptian Twitter man is much of a hardliner.

192 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:41:56pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

I don’t think they’re plain. I think they’re both lovely.

They just wear alien creatures on their heads as hats.

I don’t think they’re plain, either. They aren’t beautiful, but they certainly aren’t exactly plain (that would be Princess Anne). And they need some serious help picking flattering clothes.

193 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:42:26pm

re: #190 Aceofwhat?

i’m at my nic @ gmail. so if Tuesday is moving along slowly and i’d spice things up by stopping by, send me a word. otherwise, no worries.

Ah…… Liberal Conservative convergence…… please bring your hammers so you can ding each other.

194 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:42:35pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

Only if you’re royalty.

Some dumbass site did a reader poll of prettiest royals. Kate was number three. First two were Grace Kelly and Princess Rania.

(I can’t argue with Grace Kelly. I can’t even argue with Rania. I have political issues, but she is a very pretty woman.)

They should poll in two years.

She is very pretty, though. (What did we expect from the first prince allowed to pick his own wife?)

Diana had an undeniable star power. You wanted to watch her.

195 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:43:02pm

Oh no, the sandwich police!

196 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:43:05pm

re: #191 SanFranciscoZionist

Fear wedding dresses with sleeves? And Brookly, that dress wouldn’t pass muster at a Chassidic wedding, so I doubt Mr. Egyptian Twitter man is much of a hardliner.

do not try to involve me in this in any way, and don’t make me get a court order.

197 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:43:20pm

re: #178 brookly red

yeah… and “Hope & Change” was the signal for the communists to attack!

///Please, you poor blind fool, everyone knows that Obama’s slogan was a call for Tzeentch’s hordes to emerge from the warp and lay claim to thiks planet. I mean, HOPE and CHANGE could he be any more obvious?

198 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:43:38pm

re: #187 McSpiff

Image: 13034-004-AB54004A.jpg

Who pissed in my gene pool?

+1

charles

199 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:43:51pm

BTW, this is not an actual “cold turkey” situation. I went on the “patch” this morning at 0800 MDT. Nicotine withdrawal will be controlled. It is the (missing) oral satisfaction that is driving me nuts. Toothpicks or gum are not an option. I work with the public.

200 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:44:06pm

re: #195 ProLifeLiberal

Open-faced on a public thoroughfare; I’m going to have to write you up.

201 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:44:58pm

re: #199 Bubblehead II

BTW, this is not an actual “cold turkey” situation. I went on the “patch” this morning at 0800 MDT. Nicotine withdrawal will be controlled. It is the (missing) oral satisfaction that is driving me nuts. Toothpicks or gum are not an option. I work with the public.

My neighbor got skin cancer from the patch.

202 jamesfirecat  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:45:13pm

re: #193 Mr Pancakes

Ah… Liberal Conservative convergence… please bring your hammers so you can ding each other.

I doubt they’ll let me take mine through airport security…

203 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:45:19pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

re: #113 Stanley Sea

Is there any way that dress could be considered a hajib?

Not really, I don’t think. She’s not covering her hair, even when her face is ‘covered’, and the veil isn’t pulled forward. Also, that low neckline would give any traditionalist hives.

By Jewish standards, the veil is fine, since a girl at her wedding doesn’t need to cover her hair, but the neckline and the unlined sleeves would still bother the frum.

204 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:45:57pm

re: #201 Mr Pancakes

My neighbor got skin cancer from the patch.

I broke out in hives.

205 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:46:16pm

re: #193 Mr Pancakes

Ah… Liberal Conservative convergence… please bring your hammers so you can ding each other.

right? except i’m, shockingly, even more charming in person than i am on teh interwebz. i like people. can’t help it.

206 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:46:39pm

re: #201 Mr Pancakes

My neighbor got skin cancer from the patch.

Thanks. Maybe I should just go jump off of a cliff. %-)

207 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:47:26pm

re: #199 Bubblehead II

BTW, this is not an actual “cold turkey” situation. I went on the “patch” this morning at 0800 MDT. Nicotine withdrawal will be controlled. It is the (missing) oral satisfaction that is driving me nuts. Toothpicks or gum are not an option. I work with the public.

The sensation of wanting to suck on that cigarette and exhale something - it will pass fairly quickly - at least it did for me, the last time I actually quit (alas, it didn’t last). That’s habit and it will go. DRINK LOTS AND LOTS OF WATER.

208 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:47:45pm

re: #204 reine.de.tout

I broke out in hives.

After he stopped using it he had this enormous scab that just never healed…… I told him to get it checked out.

209 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:47:52pm

re: #203 SanFranciscoZionist

Not really, I don’t think. She’s not covering her hair, even when her face is ‘covered’, and the veil isn’t pulled forward. Also, that low neckline would give any traditionalist hives.

By Jewish standards, the veil is fine, since a girl at her wedding doesn’t need to cover her hair, but the neckline and the unlined sleeves would still bother the frum.

The dress wouldn’t make it into an LDS temple, either. I’m just happy that it’s not strapless.

210 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:48:39pm

re: #195 ProLifeLiberal

Oh no, the sandwich police!

we are meeting at the local Subway shop…
they are passing out rifles, but ammo is in short supply…
.223 & .308 is most needed…
this is it… see you on the other side.

211 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:48:48pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

Only if you’re royalty.

Some dumbass site did a reader poll of prettiest royals. Kate was number three. First two were Grace Kelly and Princess Rania.

(I can’t argue with Grace Kelly. I can’t even argue with Rania. I have political issues, but she is a very pretty woman.)

Queen Latifa. End of story.
/

212 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:49:06pm

re: #209 EmmmieG

The dress wouldn’t make it into an LDS temple, either. I’m just happy that it’s not strapless.

EmmmieG - I am too.
I was tired of seeing nothing but strapless wedding gowns.
It’s a wedding gown. You’re supposed to look lovely, not lusty.

213 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:49:15pm

re: #205 Aceofwhat?

right? except i’m, shockingly, even more charming in person than i am on teh interwebz. i like people. can’t help it.

Dude….. I’d have a beer with ya….. but I’m a conservative. We’d have a great time.

214 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:49:17pm

re: #194 EmmmieG


Diana had an undeniable star power. You wanted to watch her.

See, I never understood that part. Kate is cute - i get that. But i never thought that Diana was worth talking about. I was always struck by how often women made comments similar to yours and by how often men were bored by her. Or maybe I was bored by her and also oblivious to the sentiments of most everyone else…wouldn’t be the first time!

215 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:49:43pm

re: #202 jamesfirecat

I doubt they’ll let me take mine through airport security…

James, you’re so silly they’ll probably pants you when they search you.

Don’t ask me where that came from.

216 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:50:01pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

Have been. seems to be one of the first symptoms of withdrawal. I am always thirsty.

217 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:50:34pm

re: #216 Bubblehead II

Have been. seems to be one of the first symptoms of withdrawal. I am always thirsty.

I was too, very very thirsty, all the time.

218 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:50:42pm

re: #212 reine.de.tout

EmmmieG - I am too.
I was tired of seeing nothing but strapless wedding gowns.
It’s a wedding gown. You’re supposed to look lovely, not lusty.

My poor daughter just about crawled under the shelves one time in the grocery store when I stood there and shouted at a Bridal magazine cover.

“That’s underwear! That’s a bustier and a petticoat! Where’s the dress?”

Seriously. It looked like a corset and petticoat. I don’t get it.

She survived.

219 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:51:00pm

re: #213 Mr Pancakes

Dude… I’d have a beer with ya… but I’m a conservative. We’d have a great time.

Let me know the next time you’re in Columbus or Jacksonville!

220 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:51:07pm

re: #216 Bubblehead II

re: #217 reine.de.tout

have a beer?

221 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:51:33pm

re: #218 EmmmieG

My poor daughter just about crawled under the shelves one time in the grocery store when I stood there and shouted at a Bridal magazine cover.

“That’s underwear! That’s a bustier and a petticoat! Where’s the dress?”

Seriously. It looked like a corset and petticoat. I don’t get it.

She survived.

ROFL!
You sound like me. You were correct, of course, that’s what it was.

222 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:52:23pm

And I see that the Stalkers are continuing their fake Twitter account BS. They use it set up strawman versions of LGF posters who’d mop the floor with them in an actual debate. The degree of fragile ego and lameness on display is just sad.

[waves to the Stalkers]

223 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:52:54pm

re: #219 Aceofwhat?

Let me know the next time you’re in Columbus or Jacksonville!

I will……. and thank you……. chances of that are slim and none unfortunately.

If you ever come to San Diego……. let me know… we’ll go to IHOP.

224 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:52:55pm

re: #220 brookly red

re: #217 reine.de.tout

have a beer?

Several in fact. Not really helping. Probably habit. Drink a beer, smoke a cigarette.

225 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:53:14pm

re: #220 brookly red

re: #217 reine.de.tout

have a beer?

It’ll have to be non-alcoholic.
I take so many damned drugs that affect your liver & kidneys - doc told me to avoid alcohol. I asked if I could have a glass of wine on occasion with a meal, and he said he would recommend I avoid all alcohol. So I pretty much do. Don’t miss it, really, I can get virgin drinks, but I do like beer.

226 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:53:30pm

re: #221 reine.de.tout

ROFL!
You sound like me. You were correct, of course, that’s what it was.

I’m not saying a word about the royal wedding..
I’ll lose my man card :)

227 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:54:39pm

re: #226 HoosierHoops

I’m not saying a word about the royal wedding..
I’ll lose my man card :)

You’re allowed to notice if Pippa Middleton is hawt.

228 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:54:53pm

re: #227 EmmmieG

I, being a Mom, noticed that she needs a few sandwiches.

229 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:55:40pm

re: #170 brookly red

/It’s true! Billie Jean was the code name for a Mossad agent!11!!

Did she look like Ziva David?

230 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:55:47pm

re: #226 HoosierHoops

I’m not saying a word about the royal wedding..
I’ll lose my man card :)

Dude, if you woke up before 5 to watch that nonsense, i’ll drive to OK and personally confiscate your mancard from your wallet!

(hope you’ve been well, Hoops-)

231 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:55:58pm

re: #225 reine.de.tout

It’ll have to be non-alcoholic.
I take so many damned drugs that affect your liver & kidneys - doc told me to avoid alcohol. I asked if I could have a glass of wine on occasion with a meal, and he said he would recommend I avoid all alcohol. So I pretty much do. Don’t miss it, really, I can get virgin drinks, but I do like beer.

We had a company picnic once……. management bought cases of O’Douls …… I burnt rubber.

232 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:56:10pm

re: #214 Aceofwhat?

See, I never understood that part. Kate is cute - i get that. But i never thought that Diana was worth talking about. I was always struck by how often women made comments similar to yours and by how often men were bored by her. Or maybe I was bored by her and also oblivious to the sentiments of most everyone else…wouldn’t be the first time!

I always thought Fergie was far more pretty & sexy; I know, I’m weird. But I still think so.

233 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:56:49pm

re: #195 ProLifeLiberal

Oh no, the sandwich police!

the fighting has been fierce… many dead.
we have held the provolone, but the swiss is lost.
they are regrouping and I fear they will come for our pickles…
we have only enough lettuce & tomatoes for a day or two.

234 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:56:55pm

re: #226 HoosierHoops

I’m not saying a word about the royal wedding..
I’ll lose my man card :)


I’ll just hope that the royal couple has a long and blessed marriage.

235 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:57:18pm

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

I’ll just hope that the royal couple has a long and blessed marriage.

They laugh together.

236 Max  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:57:38pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

And I see that the Stalkers are continuing their fake Twitter account BS. They use it set up strawman versions of LGF posters who’d mop the floor with them in an actual debate. The degree of fragile ego and lameness on display is just sad.

[waves to the Stalkers]

I know. It’s sad. Like a little kid begging you to come play with it.

237 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:57:52pm

re: #226 HoosierHoops

I’m not saying a word about the royal wedding..
I’ll lose my man card :)

haha!

I loved it. I actually got up at 4 a.m. to watch it. I thought it was a lovely wedding. Kate is a breath of fresh air being breathed into that family, they need her.

And to answer someone else - why were women so fascinated by Diana? I think part of it was we watched her transform from a cute but bit frumpy shy girl, to an elegant self-confident woman, and it was an interesting transformation to watch.

I also think some of us felt a bit sorry for her - it seemed obvious to me that when she married Charles, she loved him madly, and he didn’t much care about her except for making the babies. It was a bit sad, watching her come to the realization she had been duped. She was only 19 or so, I think, when they got married. Way to young to know what she was getting into.

238 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:58:06pm

re: #168 Aceofwhat?

Nope. The science says that the poles will warm more frequently than the equator as AGW progresses. The science also says that such differentials are better predictors of storm intensity than overall global temps. Lack of such differentials, therefore, should not cause furor about future storm intensities.

If it were otherwise, you would find an increase in very strong hurricanes and very strong tornadoes in the past century correlated with the [quite real] increase in temperatures in the past century.

Should you find such a correlation, i recommend that you apply immediately for large funding, because i think you’d be the first.

Remember, it helps no one to hype global warming when solid evidence is lacking. We have enough trouble convincing the remaining doubters/deniers with the solid evidence we already possess. Making claims unsupported by the existing science only serves to make deniers think there’s some ‘agenda’ behind the scenes.

I really appreciate the snark. But if you really want to get into this lets start with:

nordhaus.econ.yale.edu/hurr_122106a.pdf


The major conclusions are the following: First, there appears to be an increase in
the frequency and intensity of tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic. Second,
there are substantial vulnerabilities to intense hurricanes in the Atlantic coastal
United States. Damages appear to rise with the eighth power of maximum wind
speed. Third, greenhouse warming is likely to lead to stronger hurricanes, but the
evidence on hurricane frequency is unclear. We estimate that the average annual
U.S. hurricane damages will increase by $8 billion at 2005 incomes (0.06 percent of
GDP) due to global warming.
239 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:58:41pm

re: #233 brookly red

the fighting has been fierce… many dead.
we have held the provolone, but the swiss is lost.
they are regrouping and I fear they will come for our pickles…
we have only enough lettuce & tomatoes for a day or two.

Pineapple on pizza will get you 5 to 10 in the slammer.

240 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:58:48pm

re: #236 Max D. Reinhardt

I know. It’s sad. Like a little kid begging you to come play with it.

I little kid with serious ‘daddy’ issues. I’ve been keeping track these last couple days because these bogus accounts keep trying to follow me on Twitter.

241 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:59:23pm

re: #237 reine.de.tout

haha!

I loved it. I actually got up at 4 a.m. to watch it. I thought it was a lovely wedding. Kate is a breath of fresh air being breathed into that family, they need her.

And to answer someone else - why were women so fascinated by Diana? I think part of it was we watched her transform from a cute but bit frumpy shy girl, to an elegant self-confident woman, and it was an interesting transformation to watch.

I also think some of us felt a bit sorry for her - it seemed obvious to me that when she married Charles, she loved him madly, and he didn’t much care about her except for making the babies. It was a bit sad, watching her come to the realization she had been duped. She was only 19 or so, I think, when they got married. Way to young to know what she was getting into.

Kind of like watching Cinderella find out he had only married her because she fit the shoe. He had a shoe, needed a fit, she would do, and he had already given away his heart to someone else and she didn’t know it.

242 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 7:59:36pm

re: #232 wlewisiii

I always thought Fergie was far more pretty & sexy; I know, I’m weird. But I still think so.

Rania. Rawr.

243 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:00:02pm

re: #239 Mr Pancakes

Pineapple on pizza will get you 5 to 10 in the slammer.

eternal damnation

244 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:00:24pm

re: #241 EmmmieG

Kind of like watching Cinderella find out he had only married her because she fit the shoe. He had a shoe, needed a fit, she would do, and he had already given away his heart to someone else and she didn’t know it.

EXACTLY!

245 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:00:37pm

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

I little kid with serious ‘daddy’ issues. I’ve been keeping track these last couple days because these bogus accounts keep trying to follow me on Twitter.

What means Twitter?……….. god I avoid that social network stuff like the plague……. sounds like fun though.

246 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:00:45pm

re: #237 reine.de.tout

haha!

I loved it. I actually got up at 4 a.m. to watch it. I thought it was a lovely wedding. Kate is a breath of fresh air being breathed into that family, they need her.

And to answer someone else - why were women so fascinated by Diana? I think part of it was we watched her transform from a cute but bit frumpy shy girl, to an elegant self-confident woman, and it was an interesting transformation to watch.

I also think some of us felt a bit sorry for her - it seemed obvious to me that when she married Charles, she loved him madly, and he didn’t much care about her except for making the babies. It was a bit sad, watching her come to the realization she had been duped. She was only 19 or so, I think, when they got married. Way to young to know what she was getting into.

That’s the good thing about Catherine. She and William were together long enough that she knew exactly what she was signing up for. A much healthier start to a marriage than that of William’s parents.

247 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:01:41pm

re: #239 Mr Pancakes

Pineapple on pizza will get you 5 to 10 in the slammer.

I eat veggie pizza with extra pineapples on it..
Funny thing..Winston the dog never begs for it at the table

248 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:02:05pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

That’s the good thing about Catherine. She and William were together long enough that she knew exactly what she was signing up for. A much healthier start to a marriage than that of William’s parents.

Agreed.
And she seems completely at ease and sure of herself, and comfortable with him, and all the hoopla, and his family as well.

249 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:02:21pm

I’ve been working in the basement a bit these days and was getting concerned that I have silverfish It took a little bit of research but it turns out they’re “house centipedes”. They are big and gross but apparently beneficial critters.

250 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:02:23pm

re: #233 brookly red

the fighting has been fierce… many dead.
we have held the provolone, but the swiss is lost.
they are regrouping and I fear they will come for our pickles…
we have only enough lettuce & tomatoes for a day or two.

What about the Bologna? Any word from the Tuna?

251 Max  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:02:28pm

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

I little kid with serious ‘daddy’ issues. I’ve been keeping track these last couple days because these bogus accounts keep trying to follow me on Twitter.

I will give them credit, they’re pretty good knockoffs if you’re just looking at the avatar and the name. Like @Gus_812 and @LudwigVanQuixote. The names always get the best of my semi-dyslexia, until I read the inane tweet below.

252 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:04:17pm

re: #249 Killgore Trout

I’ve been working in the basement a bit these days and was getting concerned that I have silverfish It took a little bit of research but it turns out they’re “house centipedes”. They are big and gross but apparently beneficial critters.

If you’re OK with big gross critters in your house, I can send you some.

253 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:04:26pm

re: #248 reine.de.tout

Agreed.
And she seems completely at ease and sure of herself, and comfortable with him, and all the hoopla, and his family as well.

She has a classic reserved, British nature. She purses up her mouth a bit when she speaks.

254 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:04:28pm

re: #247 HoosierHoops

I eat veggie pizza with extra pineapples on it..
Funny thing..Winston the dog never begs for it at the table


Winston …. dude….. chomp it, and spit out the pineapple!

255 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:05:23pm

re: #253 prairiefire

She has a classic reserved, British nature. She purses up her mouth a bit when she speaks.

Did you get up to watch, too, this morning, like I did, or was I all alone?

256 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:05:30pm

re: #250 Bubblehead II

What about the Bologna? Any word from the Tuna?

Bologna is safe for now, but tuna is endangered… we still have plenty of vinegar, but low on oil.

257 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:06:28pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

Did you get up to watch, too, this morning, like I did, or was I all alone?

No there was 2 billion of you……. I’ve manged to avoid it all day.

258 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:07:00pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

Did you get up to watch, too, this morning, like I did, or was I all alone?

I had a class of 5-7 year olds to be in charge of this morning.

No wakey-up early. I needed my sleep.

259 Max  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:08:17pm

I don’t usually comment on a foreign country’s traditions, but seeing as how the royal wedding is occupying every major channel and talk show discussion I think it is important to bring up the four hundred year old question: should Britain maintain its monarchy or should it move towards a constitutional republic?

260 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:08:43pm

re: #257 Mr Pancakes

No there was 2 billion of you… I’ve manged to avoid it all day.

I caught some of it on a replay of a radio program. Some of the music was really cool and probably commissioned for the event. There was a horn piece that had some really challenging harmonies to it.

261 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:09:13pm

re: #252 reine.de.tout

If you’re OK with big gross critters in your house, I can send you some.

I’m the biggest and grossest of all!

262 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:09:26pm

re: #259 Max D. Reinhardt

I don’t usually comment on a foreign country’s traditions, but seeing as how the royal wedding is occupying every major channel and talk show discussion I think it is important to bring up the four hundred year old question: should Britain maintain its monarchy or should it move towards a constitutional republic?

Isn’t the monarchy just for pomp and circumstance?

263 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:10:15pm

re: #259 Max D. Reinhardt

I don’t usually comment on a foreign country’s traditions, but seeing as how the royal wedding is occupying every major channel and talk show discussion I think it is important to bring up the four hundred year old question: should Britain maintain its monarchy or should it move towards a constitutional republic?

The question they are actually considering is whether they should move to an oldest-child system instead of an oldest-son system.

Prince Charles is the oldest son and has only sons, so it would affect possibly the children of Prince William.

264 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:10:20pm

re: #238 prononymous

good stuff.

i see your post and raise you with

[Link: www.nature.com…]

allow me to paraphrase. actually, paraphrasing is for the birds. i’ll quote.

We find that changes in local sea surface temperature are inadequate for characterizing even the sign of changes in potential intensity, but that long-term changes in potential intensity are closely related to the regional structure of warming; regions that warm more than the tropical average are characterized by increased potential intensity, and vice versa. We use this relationship to reconstruct changes in potential intensity over the twentieth century from observational reconstructions of sea surface temperature. We find that, even though tropical Atlantic sea surface temperatures are currently at a historical high, Atlantic potential intensity probably peaked in the 1930s and 1950s, and recent values are near the historical average. Our results indicate that—per unit local sea surface temperature change—the response of tropical cyclone activity to natural climate variations, which tend to involve localized changes in sea surface temperature, may be larger than the response to the more uniform patterns of greenhouse-gas-induced warming.

Much ado about nothing makes people think we’re about nothing.

265 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:11:10pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

That’s the good thing about Catherine. She and William were together long enough that she knew exactly what she was signing up for. A much healthier start to a marriage than that of William’s parents.

Which really makes you wonder just how much he paid attention to the marriage his parents had when he was a kid. The fact that he and Catherine dated for so many years before finally getting engaged suggests that he absolutely didn’t want to jump the gun. Whoever he married had to understand the life she was going to end up living.

266 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:11:55pm

re: #260 Killgore Trout

I caught some of it on a replay of a radio program. Some of the music was really cool and probably commissioned for the event. There was a horn piece that had some really challenging harmonies to it.

The music used can be found in this article.

If you’re interested.

267 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:12:19pm

re: #251 Max D. Reinhardt

I will give them credit, they’re pretty good knockoffs if you’re just looking at the avatar and the name. Like @Gus_812 and @LudwigVanQuixote. The names always get the best of my semi-dyslexia, until I read the inane tweet below.

That’s why I don’t respond to others claiming to be from LGF who try to follow me these days. Other than those who have been following for a while, I’ve been cautious and wary. I did let WUB and Windy follow me, because I know they’re for real. But I’m not going to interact with the Stalkers on Twitter. All they’ll be is abusive.

268 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:12:49pm

re: #262 Mr Pancakes

Isn’t the monarchy just for pomp and circumstance?

Yeah. IIRC. the Queen is the ceremonial head of state, but I believe the Prime Minister actually runs the show. The British royal family is more for show than anything else.

269 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:12:54pm

re: #241 EmmmieG

Kind of like watching Cinderella find out he had only married her because she fit the shoe. He had a shoe, needed a fit, she would do, and he had already given away his heart to someone else and she didn’t know it.

That’s what was so strange to me. If you’re going to buck the inbred trend and introduce some commoner genes, why not wait until you find someone you can’t spend the next 60 years without? I never understood.

270 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:13:06pm

they are retreating… they couldn’t cut the mustad

271 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:13:23pm

re: #266 reine.de.tout

The music used can be found in this article.

If you’re interested.

That’s cool….. good resource…… I like that music I suspect. I’ll check it out.

272 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:14:20pm

re: #268 Lidane

Yeah. IIRC. the Queen is the ceremonial head of state, but I believe the Prime Minister actually runs the show. The British royal family is more for show than anything else.

That’s what I thought.

273 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:14:23pm

re: #256 brookly red

Bologna is safe for now, but tuna is endangered… we still have plenty of vinegar, but low on oil.

I am going to burn in (some ones) hell for this.

Youtube Video
274 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:14:35pm

re: #269 Aceofwhat?

That’s what was so strange to me. If you’re going to buck the inbred trend and introduce some commoner genes, why not wait until you find someone you can’t spend the next 60 years without? I never understood.

It was 1981. She wasn’t a commoner, she was Lady Diana Spencer, daughter of an Earl. She was a virgin, and had no embarrassing past.

That was what they were looking for. In 1981, a divorced Camilla would not have done.

275 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:14:40pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

That’s why I don’t respond to others claiming to be from LGF who try to follow me these days. Other than those who have been following for a while, I’ve been cautious and wary. I did let WUB and Windy follow me, because I know they’re for real. But I’m not going to interact with the Stalkers on Twitter. All they’ll be is abusive.

I will say, the @Gus impostor was a pretty nice guy. Started out by making fun of LGF , but we actually ended up having a laugh and he was surprisingly polite.

Still creepy as hell mind you.

276 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:14:41pm

re: #265 Lidane

Which really makes you wonder just how much he paid attention to the marriage his parents had when he was a kid. The fact that he and Catherine dated for so many years before finally getting engaged suggests that he absolutely didn’t want to jump the gun. Whoever he married had to understand the life she was going to end up living.

Given the very strong ‘one-woman’ tendencies William and Harry have shown, I think you’re exactly right. Prince William wants to be a better man than his father. And I think he’s proving that he is.

277 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:15:30pm

re: #269 Aceofwhat?

That’s what was so strange to me. If you’re going to buck the inbred trend and introduce some commoner genes, why not wait until you find someone you can’t spend the next 60 years without? I never understood.

Charles was mad about Camilla, for a long time. However, for some reason either he could not get approval to marry her or she got tired of waiting, so she married someone else, and Charles eventually had to find someone young enough to have the required heir and spare. Thus, Diana. Now Charles finally married Camilla - and that’s who he should have married in the first place, IMO.

278 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:16:42pm

re: #275 McSpiff

I will say, the @Gus impostor was a pretty nice guy. Started out by making fun of LGF , but we actually ended up having a laugh and he was surprisingly polite.

Still creepy as hell mind you.

Hey… people are people man……. we’d all probably get along over a beer somewhere.

279 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:16:51pm

re: #259 Max D. Reinhardt

I don’t see an issue. In terms of how functional a nation is, there’s not a whole lot of difference between the Constitutional Monarchies and Republics of the OECD states. As long as the Monarchies don’t cause trouble in a country, they are just fine.

280 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:17:14pm

re: #274 EmmmieG

It was 1981. She wasn’t a commoner, she was Lady Diana Spencer, daughter of an Earl. She was a virgin, and had no embarrassing past.

That was what they were looking for. In 1981, a divorced Camilla would not have done.

Yes, before Camilla got married, she had a bit of “suspect” past IIRC. She liked life, apparently, and lived as fully as she could. So … she wouldn’t have passed the virginity test they made Diana undergo. Thus, Diana, not Camilla.

281 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:17:53pm

re: #277 reine.de.tout

…for some reason either he could not get approval to marry her…


That sort of pretense (that his choice of bride would have had significant political impact in today’s Britain) renders the Royals pretty silly to me.

282 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:18:12pm

re: #280 reine.de.tout

Yes, before Camilla got married, she had a bit of “suspect” past IIRC. She liked life, apparently, and lived as fully as she could. So … she wouldn’t have passed the virginity test they made Diana undergo. Thus, Diana, not Camilla.

And in 1681, before the invention of the papparazzi, they all would have lived unhappily on that way.

283 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:18:25pm

re: #266 reine.de.tout

The music used can be found in this article.

If you’re interested.

Ah thanks. I think this is the one I liked….

Following the Signing, there will be a Fanfare by the Fanfare Team from the Central Band of the Royal Air Force. The Fanfare, called Valiant and Brave, after the motto of No. 22 Squadron (Search and Rescue Force) was specially composed for this Service by Wing Commander Duncan Stubbs, Principal Director of Music in the Royal Air Force.
284 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:18:42pm

re: #270 brookly red

they are retreating… they couldn’t cut the mustad

Thinking on it, I’ve realized there is at least one royal personage that I do revere.

John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, and apparent inventor of one of my favorite things to eat.

285 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:18:48pm

re: #281 jaunte

That sort of pretense (that his choice of bride would have had significant political impact in today’s Britain) renders the Royals pretty silly to me.

I think it had to do with the fact that she was, um, not a virgin, more than any political impact the marriage would have had.

286 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:19:05pm

re: #238 prononymous

remember, the frequency of storms in the north atlantic is a bullshit measurement. are storms increasing in frequency across the globe?

The anomalously strong hurricane activity in the
Atlantic sector during the recent years led to a
controversy about the impact of global warming on
hurricane activity in the Atlantic sector. Here we show
that the temperature difference between the tropical North
Atlantic and the tropical Indian and Pacific Oceans (IndoPacific) is a key parameter in controlling the vertical wind
shear over the Atlantic, an important quantity for hurricane
activity. The stronger warming of the tropical North Atlantic
relative to that of the Indo-Pacific during the most recent
years drove reduced vertical wind shear over the Atlantic
and is thus responsible for the strong hurricane activity
observed. In 2006, however, the temperature difference
between the tropical North Atlantic and the tropical Indian
and Pacific Oceans is much reduced, which explains
the relatively weak hurricane season.

i’m telling ya…temperature differentials = storm intensity. i used to not believe in AGW, and i read a lot during my conversion.

global warming will flood us, but it will also reduce temperature differentials. we have enough bad things to lay at the feet of AGW. respectable climate scientists do us a disfavor by pretending that storm intensity is predictably one of the bad things.

link to the text above: [Link: www.ozean-online.de…]

287 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:19:27pm

re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth

Thinking on it, I’ve realized there is at least one royal personage that I do revere.

John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, and apparent inventor of one of my favorite things to eat.

loafs & fishes… you lose.

288 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:19:36pm

re: #285 reine.de.tout

But whose business was that, really?

289 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:20:00pm

I hope Charles decides to let William to the throne when the time comes. Kate is a beautiful woman.

290 Max  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:20:31pm

re: #279 ProLifeLiberal

You don’t think that an HRH’s words can sway a pieces of legislation in the Parliament, especially when it comes to the reform of the Dignified Offices?

291 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:20:37pm

re: #274 EmmmieG

It was 1981. She wasn’t a commoner, she was Lady Diana Spencer, daughter of an Earl. She was a virgin, and had no embarrassing past.

That was what they were looking for. In 1981, a divorced Camilla would not have done.

She was the daughter of an Earl?

Alrighty…just having learned that from your post, i’m going to shut up now;)

292 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:20:39pm

re: #288 jaunte

But whose business was that, really?

No one, of course.
I do not believe they made Kate undergo such embarrassing and silly “tests”. But they made sure Diana did, IIRC.

293 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:21:12pm

re: #289 ProLifeLiberal

I hope Charles decides to let William to the throne when the time comes. Kate is a beautiful woman.

how can you have a throne & bomb a dictator?

294 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:21:19pm

re: #287 brookly red

That’s not a sandwich. That’s a story. There’s a difference.

295 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:21:23pm

re: #287 brookly red

loafs & fishes… you lose.

Nah……. they never cut the bread in half……. cutting bread in half is key when making a sammich.

296 Killgore Trout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:21:24pm
Youtube Video

lol
297 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:21:37pm

re: #292 reine.de.tout

All to be sure no improper ‘blood’ could reach the throne. That’s what I mean by it being pretend-political.

298 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:22:17pm

re: #289 ProLifeLiberal

I hope Charles decides to let William to the throne when the time comes. Kate is a beautiful woman.

You and all the Dominions of the Realm…

299 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:22:26pm

re: #255 reine.de.tout

Did you get up to watch, too, this morning, like I did, or was I all alone?

My DVR got up this morning, sweetie. We just finished the balcony appearance. I thought the trees in the Abbey were fantastic.

300 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:22:32pm

re: #294 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s not a sandwich. That’s a story. There’s a difference.

you put the fish in the bread, sandwich!

301 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:23:16pm

re: #300 brookly red

you put the fish in the bread, sandwich!

Was there tarter sauce? Hmmmmm?

302 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:23:17pm

re: #295 Mr Pancakes

Nah… they never cut the bread in half… cutting bread in half is key when making a sammich.

/shut up for I cut yer crusts off…

303 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:23:25pm

re: #297 jaunte

All to be sure no improper ‘blood’ could reach the throne. That’s what I mean by it being pretend-political.

ah.

They seem to have gotten over it this time around, thank goodness.

304 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:23:41pm

re: #290 Max D. Reinhardt

In Europe, the royals haven’t had influence in quite some time. All the monarchies you see now have been constitutional monarchies for over a century. I realistically see no issue.

305 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:23:44pm

My favorite part is when he promises her half his world goods. I was thinking, “Define ‘his’ worldly goods. The royal family have more jewels than Tiffanys.”

306 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:24:06pm

re: #299 prairiefire

My DVR got up this morning, sweetie. We just finished the balcony appearance. I thought the trees in the Abbey were fantastic.

No DVR. I have to watch when it’s on, or I miss it (unless I find it all online later).

307 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:24:39pm

re: #296 Killgore Trout

[Video]
lol

He’s not worthy…and now i’m going to go stand in front of a blank wall and steam off the geek sweat you just induced. I smell like nerd.

308 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:24:43pm

re: #305 EmmmieG

My favorite part is when he promises her half his world goods. I was thinking, “Define ‘his’ worldly goods. The royal family have more jewels than Tiffanys.”

And yeah, we saw how good that worked out, didn’t we, when Charles & Diana split up.

309 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:24:53pm

I actually like Kate’s second wedding dress for the reception, but the fuzzy cardigan bolero is silly. Hopefully she ditched it at some point in order to relax.

310 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:24:59pm

re: #301 Mr Pancakes

Was there tarter sauce? Hmmm?

I got yer tarter sauce right here…

311 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:25:00pm

re: #289 ProLifeLiberal

I hope Charles decides to let William to the throne when the time comes. Kate is a beautiful woman.

Amen.

312 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:25:09pm

*pokes his head in* Still talking about the royals?

313 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:25:17pm

re: #264 Aceofwhat?

good stuff.

i see your post and raise you with

[Link: www.nature.com…]

allow me to paraphrase. actually, paraphrasing is for the birds. i’ll quote.

Much ado about nothing makes people think we’re about nothing.

I see your nature geoscience and raise you the newer:

[Link: www.nature.com…]

Whether the characteristics of tropical cyclones have changed or will change in a warming climate — and if so, how — has been the subject of considerable investigation, often with conflicting results. Large amplitude fluctuations in the frequency and intensity of tropical cyclones greatly complicate both the detection of long-term trends and their attribution to rising levels of atmospheric greenhouse gases. Trend detection is further impeded by substantial limitations in the availability and quality of global historical records of tropical cyclones. Therefore, it remains uncertain whether past changes in tropical cyclone activity have exceeded the variability expected from natural causes. However, future projections based on theory and high-resolution dynamical models consistently indicate that greenhouse warming will cause the globally averaged intensity of tropical cyclones to shift towards stronger storms, with intensity increases of 2–11% by 2100. Existing modelling studies also consistently project decreases in the globally averaged frequency of tropical cyclones, by 6–34%. Balanced against this, higher resolution modelling studies typically project substantial increases in the frequency of the most intense cyclones, and increases of the order of 20% in the precipitation rate within 100 km of the storm centre. For all cyclone parameters, projected changes for individual basins show large variations between different modelling studies.

Sorry for my slow responses. I’m getting a bit busy here and might have to dig into this later.

314 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:25:50pm

Marrying a prince means you won’t have your reception at the VFW hall.

315 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:25:58pm

re: #312 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

*pokes his head in* Still talking about the royals?

Sure, why not? The birthers are silly and all the other GOP fail is too rage inducing to be helpful on a Friday night.

316 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:26:05pm

re: #300 brookly red

Fish sandwiches, fish tacos, fish pizza. I like fish, but I’m not interested in any of those combination.

/I lie, I like tuna fish pizza.
//

317 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:26:20pm

re: #312 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

*pokes his head in* Still talking about the royals?

yes damn it

318 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:26:22pm

re: #310 brookly red

I got yer tarter sauce right here…

Well here…… hold my pineapple.

319 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:26:45pm

re: #312 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

*pokes his head in* Still talking about the royals?

Depressing, innit?
/

320 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:26:50pm

re: #315 Lidane

Sure, why not? The birthers are silly and all the other GOP fail is too rage inducing to be helpful on a Friday night.

At least the birthers are American.

321 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:27:17pm

re: #316 Slumbering Behemoth

Try grilled salmon tacos. Very tasty.

322 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:27:22pm

re: #316 Slumbering Behemoth

Fish sandwiches, fish tacos, fish pizza. I like fish, but I’m not interested in any of those combination.

/I lie, I like tuna fish pizza.
//

a tuna is just an over grown anchovie

323 Lidane  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:27:57pm

re: #320 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

At least the birthers are American.

Yes, but they’re not as pretty as the wedding couple. In fact, the birthers are downright hideous.

I’d rather go for the shiny on a Friday than muck about with the trolls.

324 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:28:17pm

re: #181 EmmmieG

I don’t think they’re plain. I think they’re both lovely.

They just wear alien creatures on their heads as hats.

My mother says that if Princess Anne showed up at a wedding in the United States in that green and purple thing, they’d throw a butterfly net over her.

325 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:28:46pm

re: #320 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

At least the birthers are American.

You’ve seen their long form birth certificates? If not, I call shenanigans.

/everyone grab a broom

326 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:28:58pm

re: #305 EmmmieG

My favorite part is when he promises her half his world goods. I was thinking, “Define ‘his’ worldly goods. The royal family have more jewels than Tiffanys.”

she owns half the war in Libya…

327 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:29:15pm

re: #324 SanFranciscoZionist

My mother says that if Princess Anne showed up at a wedding in the United States in that green and purple thing, they’d throw a butterfly net over her.

But the hats are OK?

328 austin_blue  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:29:53pm

While I don’t disagree with the good Doctor on his comments re: climate change and tornadoes, and this chart on CNN seems to back him up:

[Link: www.cnn.com…]

(go down on the left side and expand the Tornadoes by Month chart)

I would add a word of caution here. I’m a firm believer that GHGs are causing increasing intensity in all weather events, but it’s hard to model a single day’s events in a single state. I intuitively agree with him, but we have no solid proof.

Note also that the numbers on the chart may be affected by the significant increase in radar technology in ID’ing tornadoes. This is certainly food for thought, but not conclusive at this point.

However, like my friend Bruce Sterling, who addressed this subject in his novel Heavy Weather”, I think this will eventually be proven.

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:30:45pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

Queen Latifa. End of story.
/

:)

330 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:31:34pm

If the words ‘for richer, for poorer’ for the newlyweds are anything other than conceptual, we will officially be in really hard times.

331 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:31:48pm

re: #323 Lidane

Yes, but they’re not as pretty as the wedding couple. In fact, the birthers are downright hideous.

I’d rather go for the shiny on a Friday than muck about with the trolls.

Hey now, I have been assured on more than one occasion that Pam Geller is gorgeous. Granted, my wingnut friend is blind as a bat without his glasses, but still…

//

332 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:31:55pm

re: #324 SanFranciscoZionist

My mother says that if Princess Anne showed up at a wedding in the United States in that green and purple thing, they’d throw a butterfly net over her.

I liked Zara’s hat quite a bit. Lots of good ones. Not sure about the black turban type number covered in red roses. Sort of too “Sunset Boulevard.”

333 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:32:29pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

And I see that the Stalkers are continuing their fake Twitter account BS. They use it set up strawman versions of LGF posters who’d mop the floor with them in an actual debate. The degree of fragile ego and lameness on display is just sad.

[waves to the Stalkers]

Have I got one?? Have I got one??

;)

334 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:32:44pm

re: #331 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Some folks just really dig leather.

335 brookly red  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:32:57pm

re: #331 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey now, I have been assured on more than one occasion that Pam Geller is gorgeous. Granted, my wingnut friend is blind as a bat without his glasses, but still…

//

good, you work Pam into the royal wedding… I go to shoot some pool.

336 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:33:10pm

re: #333 SanFranciscoZionist

Have I got one?? Have I got one??

;)

Oh…… you probably will now.

337 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:34:04pm

re: #333 SanFranciscoZionist

Have I got one?? Have I got one??

;)

Yeah, but I’m too lazy to follow you around anywhere but LGF. Sorry.

338 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:34:23pm

re: #334 Slumbering Behemoth

Some folks just really dig leather.

Especially if it’s Rich Corinthian leather.

339 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:34:28pm

re: #328 austin_blue

Heavy Weather upding.

340 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:34:41pm

re: #235 EmmmieG

They laugh together.

William’s crazy about her. You can see it in his face. She has a strong family support network. And the royals better play nice, because this girl is their last best chance if they think they’re getting this royal business through this century.

I hope for them. I do wish the Queen had offered her Victoria’s tiara. Victoria and Albert are the best love story I can think of among the English royals.

341 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:35:39pm

re: #313 prononymous

I see your nature geoscience and raise you the newer:

[Link: www.nature.com…]

Sorry for my slow responses. I’m getting a bit busy here and might have to dig into this later.

No worries. But this is exactly the type of study that drives me crazy. How in the name of Zeus can the next degree of warming increase the models’ predicted intensity when the last degree of warming did no such thing?

I can make a model that does the same thing. Trouble is, it won’t square with the past 100 years. Neither will the model in this article.

And even if it does turn out that, despite what we think we understand (temperature differentials are more strongly correlated with storm intensity than temperature averages) and storm intensities actually do increase, say, 10% over the next century…so what? Are we seriously going to win anyone over by saying that “storms will increase in intensity by 10%, quick, save your children?

No one who is serious about convincing others of the need to confront AGW would put that in their “top reasons AGW is worth counteracting”. So let’s not give anyone a reason to think we’re not serious. We need to belabor the point that the basic greenhouse effect is rock-solid science and stop seizing on random weather events to prove our point, lest AGW deniers seize on random weather events to prove their point.

The fact that we can both cite credible studies on either side of this discussion is its own proof that this is a non-starter. And credible scientists, as i said above, are often shitty evangelists, or they’d pick up what i’m layin’ down.

342 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:35:39pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

That’s the good thing about Catherine. She and William were together long enough that she knew exactly what she was signing up for. A much healthier start to a marriage than that of William’s parents.

She’s a grown woman, she has a college degree, options…I think she’s making a far more informed choice than Diana did.

343 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:36:38pm

re: #323 Lidane

Yes, but they’re not as pretty as the wedding couple. In fact, the birthers are downright hideous.

I’d rather go for the shiny on a Friday than muck about with the trolls.

Tell me that was a DAII reference…

344 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:37:02pm

re: #258 EmmmieG

I had a class of 5-7 year olds to be in charge of this morning.

No wakey-up early. I needed my sleep.

My mother works with a British Israeli woman. She wandered into the office this morning on two hour’s sleep, announcing with satisfaction that, ‘they’re settled at last’.

345 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:37:12pm

re: #342 SanFranciscoZionist

She’s a grown woman, she has a college degree, options…I think she’s making a far more informed choice than Diana did.

Plus, she isn’t marrying a crackpot.

346 Kragar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:37:51pm

re: #338 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Especially if it’s Rich Corinthian leather.

Roll the Rs more.

347 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:38:25pm

re: #346 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Crrrrackpot.

348 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:39:15pm

re: #340 SanFranciscoZionist

William’s crazy about her. You can see it in his face. She has a strong family support network. And the royals better play nice, because this girl is their last best chance if they think they’re getting this royal business through this century.

I hope for them. I do wish the Queen had offered her Victoria’s tiara. Victoria and Albert are the best love story I can think of among the English royals.

True enough but George (III) and Charlotte can give them an honest run for the money.

349 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:39:27pm

re: #249 Killgore Trout

I’ve been working in the basement a bit these days and was getting concerned that I have silverfish It took a little bit of research but it turns out they’re “house centipedes”. They are big and gross but apparently beneficial critters.

Yeah, centipedes are good to have around.

Still hoping to see a solpugid one of these days.

350 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:39:31pm

re: #280 reine.de.tout

Yes, before Camilla got married, she had a bit of “suspect” past IIRC. She liked life, apparently, and lived as fully as she could. So … she wouldn’t have passed the virginity test they made Diana undergo. Thus, Diana, not Camilla.

Can I just say…iiiiiick?

351 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:39:50pm

re: #346 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Roll the Rs more.

Casse-toi, pauvre con/

352 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:39:54pm

My wife just cooked, and is now eating a spiny chayote ……. I feel like I’m living Andrew Zimmern. YUK

353 Kragar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:40:16pm

re: #351 Aceofwhat?

Casse-toi, pauvre con/

I don’t speak Spanish.

354 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:40:20pm

re: #332 prairiefire

I liked Zara’s hat quite a bit. Lots of good ones. Not sure about the black turban type number covered in red roses. Sort of too “Sunset Boulevard.”

Zara’s hat was really because Doctor Who had hidden the anti-Cybermen transponder in it.

It really was unfortunate that he had to put the receiving end in Princess Beatrice’s hat, but we must make our sacrifices.

355 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:42:01pm

Back on the topic of royalty, I guess Lord Vader is pretty cool too.

Other than that, I really have no use for royalty.

356 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:42:24pm

The tiara had been the Queen Mum’s, which she gave to the Queen.

Given how the royal family feels about the Queen Mum, it’s a sign of acceptance.

357 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:42:36pm

re: #353 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I don’t speak Spanish.

Yeah, me neither. It’s uncivilized.

ow, Lidane, stop hitting me

358 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:42:38pm

What are the first words every man hears after the ceremony?

359 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:43:04pm

re: #358 researchok

Want to get a beer?

360 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:43:05pm

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

Back on the topic of royalty, I guess Lord Vader is pretty cool too.

Other than that, I really have no use for royalty.

Uh, he married a former queen. So tell me, how’d you like his wedding togs?

361 Kragar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:43:10pm

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

Back on the topic of royalty, I guess Lord Vader is pretty cool too.

Not actually royalty.

362 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:43:26pm

“There’s going to be some changes around here…”

363 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:43:49pm

re: #358 researchok

What are the first words every man hears after the ceremony?

“If you ever want another blow job, you’re gonna hafta pay a hooker”?

364 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:43:55pm

re: #350 SanFranciscoZionist

Can I just say…iiick?

You can.
You may.
I’ll say it too …
iiick.

365 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:43:58pm

re: #352 Mr Pancakes

My wife just cooked, and is now eating a spiny chayote … I feel like I’m living Andrew Zimmern. YUK

How do you get them out of those spiny rinds?

366 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:44:23pm

re: #358 researchok

What are the first words every man hears after the ceremony?

“May God have mercy on your soul.”

367 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:45:23pm

re: #320 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

At least the birthers are American.

Yes, but we’re cosmopolitan here. Besides, I’m too into game prep right now to get angry.

368 HoosierHoops  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:45:37pm

Well heck. I had the most romantic wedding in the world..
We got married in a garden in Napa Valley and spent the week at the Stanford Court in SF with my dad’s Cadillac having a blast…Those Royals had nothing on us…

369 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:45:38pm

re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth

Thinking on it, I’ve realized there is at least one royal personage that I do revere.

John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, and apparent inventor of one of my favorite things to eat.

Which he invented so he wouldn’t have to get up from the card table and stop gambling.

370 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:46:08pm

re: #365 SanFranciscoZionist

How do you get them out of those spiny rinds?

Apparently you have to peel the diligently…… I say just buy the smooth ones?…… she’s attacking me with a forkful now and I’m having to defend myself…. stay tuned.

371 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:46:19pm

re: #364 reine.de.tout

You can.
You may.
I’ll say it too …
iiick.

Also, ridiculous. AFAIK, all you can check for is an intact hymen. Don’t all these girls grow up riding horses hither and yon?

372 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:46:20pm

Forget the British inbreds. How ABOUT them Memphis Grizzlies! Suck it, Spurs.

373 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:46:24pm

re: #363 Slumbering Behemoth

“If you ever want another blow job, you’re gonna hafta pay a hooker”?

uh-uh!
You did NOT SAY THAT!

374 Bubblehead II  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:46:56pm

Night Lizards. It’s has been both informative as well as fun.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and may tomorrow find you well.

For those who (lurk and) have a problem with me. Fuck You.

Youtube Video

Withdrawl sucks.

375 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:46:59pm

re: #371 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, ridiculous. AFAIK, all you can check for is an intact hymen. Don’t all these girls grow up riding horses hither and yon?

Like you said. Ick.

376 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:47:13pm

re: #371 SanFranciscoZionist

Also, ridiculous. AFAIK, all you can check for is an intact hymen. Don’t all these girls grow up riding horses hither and yon?

I don’t think Diana liked horses much.
But yes, you’re correct, it is, was ridiculous.

377 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:47:16pm

I sense a gender gap in commenting of the wedding.

378 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:47:40pm

re: #358 researchok

What are the first words every man hears after the ceremony?

“Get used to never being right about anything ever again”.

379 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:48:37pm

re: #377 researchok

I sense a gender gap in commenting of the wedding.

You know, the town I grew up in had a “Hymen Lane”. I kid you not.

I’m really glad I didn’t grow up on that street.

I grew up on the reasonably-named “Yoho Drive”.

380 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:48:43pm

re: #369 Romantic Heretic

That’s my kind of Earl.

381 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:49:00pm

re: #379 reine.de.tout

Very piratical.

382 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:49:03pm

re: #379 reine.de.tout

You know, the town I grew up in had a “Hymen Lane”. I kid you not.

I’m really glad I didn’t grow up on that street.

I grew up on the reasonably-named “Yoho Drive”.

LOLOL

383 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:49:40pm

re: #378 Slumbering Behemoth

“Get used to never being right about anything ever again”.

Hon, you are so going to hell …

384 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:50:04pm

re: #373 reine.de.tout

No, that’s what she said. ;)

385 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:50:30pm

re: #383 reine.de.tout

Hon, you are so going to hell …

Well, at least I’ll have company.

386 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:50:35pm

re: #374 Bubblehead II

Night Lizards. It’s has been both informative as well as fun.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and may tomorrow find you well.

For those who (lurk and) have a problem with me. Fuck You.

[Video]Withdrawl sucks.

Good luck buddy

387 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:51:26pm

re: #365 SanFranciscoZionist

How do you get them out of those spiny rinds?

When she first bought it, I saw it in the bag I thought it was an avocado ….. I grabbed it and …….. ouch….. Effing hurt.

388 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:51:27pm

The other words men get used to hearing are, “Do I have to ask you to take out the trash? Can’t you see the bag is full or do you need my second opinion?”

389 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:51:33pm

re: #383 reine.de.tout

Hon, you are so going to hell …

I live in the Central Valley, friend. Hell will be coming to me. Probably some time mid June.

390 Kragar  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:51:46pm

Michele Bachmann wants gun owners on 2012 front lines

In a well-received video greeting, Rep. Michele Bachmann urged gun owners Friday to be as engaged in 2012 as they were during the midterm elections that gave Republicans control of the House.

“The right to keep and bear arms has to be protected because the Second Amendment is the final guarantor of all our constitutional rights,” the Minnesota Republican said in a pre-record message for thousands of activists at the National Rifle Association’s annual meeting. “In 18 months, we’ll face one of the most important elections of our time. In 2012, we have the opportunity to repeal the current president and elect a Constitutional conservative who will protect our Second Amendment rights.”

Yeah, because all the screaming that Obama was going to seize all the guns as soon as he was sworn in certainly came to pass.

391 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:52:24pm

re: #388 researchok

The other words men get used to hearing are, “Do I have to ask you to take out the trash? Can’t you see the bag is full or do you need my second opinion?”

“Those dishes aren’t going to wash themselves!”

392 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:52:27pm

re: #385 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, at least I’ll have company.

As will I.

And I need some sleep. Was up at 4:30, ‘cause I don’t have a DVR, and gosh, it never occurred to me they would replay the highlights of this wedding all day long, I just had to get up and watch it live.

Y’all have a good evening.
re: #389 Slumbering Behemoth

I live in the Central Valley, friend. Hell will be coming to me. Probably some time mid June.


And I suggest you don’t know hell until you’ve spent a summer in south Louisiana.

393 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:53:01pm

At triple overtime, last game:

“We don’t talk anymore”.

394 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:53:37pm

re: #388 researchok

The other words men get used to hearing are, “Do I have to ask you to take out the trash? Can’t you see the bag is full or do you need my second opinion?”

heck.
I really gotta go.

But I have clues I leave around.
Like, I take the bag and put it by the door so he’ll trip over it if he doesn’t take it out.

Much easier than yelling.

395 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:54:21pm

re: #388 researchok

The other words men get used to hearing are, “Do I have to ask you to take out the trash? Can’t you see the bag is full or do you need my second opinion?”

That’s funny. My grandma would never think to ask my grandpa to take out the trash. She was the homemaker, and she saw that as her job. Different strokes.

396 jaunte  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:54:30pm

re: #394 reine.de.tout

Eventually I learned anything placed outside or in the garage was mine to deal with.

397 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:54:47pm

re: #391 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

“Those dishes aren’t going to wash themselves!”

“No, the dishwasher is meant to wash dishes, not store them, That is why you have to put them away”.

398 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:54:47pm

re: #388 researchok

The other words men get used to hearing are, “Do I have to ask you to take out the trash? Can’t you see the bag is full or do you need my second opinion?”

My wife is from Mexico. For years I thought “Saca la basura pendejo” meant I love you.

399 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:54:59pm

We had some of the strangest weather I have ever heard of today in Lubbock; not especially dangerous, just strange.
At 5PM it was 101 degrees at my house, the wind was from the southwest at 40mph with gusts to 60, and visibliity was reduced to half a mile by airborne dust. I don’t know of any precedent for this and neither do the old timers around here. Extreme heat and extreme winds are not unusual but both at the same time, to this degree, is really unheard of.

400 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:55:04pm

re: #394 reine.de.tout

heck.
I really gotta go.

But I have clues I leave around.
Like, I take the bag and put it by the door so he’ll trip over it if he doesn’t take it out.

Much easier than yelling.

And when there’s an event coming up? A big sign on the fridge with catalog photo.

“GIFT IDEA FOR REINE FOR MOTHER’S DAY!!!!!”.

It works.

401 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:55:41pm

re: #370 Mr Pancakes

Apparently you have to peel the diligently… I say just buy the smooth ones?… she’s attacking me with a forkful now and I’m having to defend myself… stay tuned.

You’re supposed to let her fork you. Trust me. You’ll like it.

402 reine.de.tout  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:56:15pm

re: #396 jaunte

Eventually I learned anything placed outside or in the garage was mine to deal with.

LOL.
As it should be.
g’night.

403 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:56:19pm

“I don’t care if your mother said it was OK. We’re going to fold the towels my way”

404 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:56:51pm

re: #401 Aceofwhat?

You’re supposed to let her fork you. Trust me. You’ll like it.

She has a metal fork…….. I’d rather spoon her.

405 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:57:47pm

re: #390 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, and may or may not be a gun owner, but she’s got a screw loose if she thinks I’m gonna hop on board with her crazy ass.

406 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:58:12pm

“If your mother did a great job raising you I wouldn’t have to fix you”

407 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:58:40pm

re: #403 researchok

“I don’t care if your mother said it was OK. We’re going to fold the towels my way”

“*to clothes on the floor* Does that look like a hamper?!”

408 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:58:46pm

re: #392 reine.de.tout

And I suggest you don’t know hell until you’ve spent a summer in south Louisiana.

I suspect you’re right about that. At least my hell is a dry hell.

409 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 8:59:55pm

“I’ve put a couple of pounds. We’re all going on a diet”.

410 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:01:08pm

re: #377 researchok

I sense a gender gap in commenting of the wedding.

That’s true about every wedding.

411 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:01:11pm

I suspect it may be a day or two before SFZ talks to me.

412 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:01:20pm

re: #409 researchok

“I’ve put a couple of pounds. We’re all going on a diet”.

That’s the only way. If the cook must diet, we will all diet.

413 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:02:19pm

re: #405 Slumbering Behemoth

I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, and may or may not be a gun owner, but she’s got a screw loose if she thinks I’m gonna hop on board with her crazy ass.

That she has a screw loose is certain.

414 prairiefire  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:02:19pm

re: #406 researchok

“If your mother did a great job raising you I wouldn’t have to fix you”

Ouch.

415 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:02:33pm

re: #412 EmmmieG

That’s the only way. If the cook must diet, we will all diet.

It also means no chips in the house, replaced with green stuff

416 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:02:42pm

re: #412 EmmmieG

That’s the only way. If the cook must diet, we will all diet.

Thankfully, in our house, we all have some level of culinary ability. Granted, mine is mostly limited to grilling and frying of various portions of beef, but somebody’s gotta do it.

417 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:03:27pm

re: #251 Max D. Reinhardt

I will give them credit, they’re pretty good knockoffs if you’re just looking at the avatar and the name. Like @Gus_812 and @LudwigVanQuixote. The names always get the best of my semi-dyslexia, until I read the inane tweet below.

Thank you Max. I’m ignoring this stupidity now since I’m using Tweetdeck. Accept now substitutes. There’s only one Gus_802! ;)

418 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:03:39pm

Also, the word ‘fine’ has to go.

It is never appropriate to say, ‘You look fine’.

Ever.

419 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:04:14pm

re: #417 Gus 802

Thank you Max. I’m ignoring this stupidity now since I’m using Tweetdeck. Accept now substitutes. There’s only one Gus_802! ;)

How do we know it’s you? Can you produce your long form certificate?

/

420 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:04:14pm

re: #417 Gus 802

Thank you Max. I’m ignoring this stupidity now since I’m using Tweetdeck. Accept now no substitutes. There’s only one Gus_802! ;)

Now? OK. Make that no! I’m such a poor typist sometimes.

421 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:04:22pm

re: #409 researchok

“I’ve put a couple of pounds. We’re all going on a diet”.

Humorously enough, that’s exactly what happened when a former girlfriend of mine decided she needed to lose some weight.

Meh, what did I care. She did the cooking, and I still got to eat.

422 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:04:57pm

re: #417 Gus 802

Thank you Max. I’m ignoring this stupidity now since I’m using Tweetdeck. Accept now substitutes. There’s only one Gus_802! ;)

I follow some of my friends on Twitter, so I wish the Stalkers would quit turning parts of it to shit with their lies.

423 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:05:33pm

re: #421 Slumbering Behemoth

Humorously enough, that’s exactly what happened when a former girlfriend of mine decided she needed to lose some weight.

Meh, what did I care. She did the cooking, and I still got to eat.

And some of that diet food is pretty good…provided you limit yourself to the serving size only…

424 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:05:55pm

re: #419 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

How do we know it’s you? Can you produce your long form certificate?

/

Hmm. I actually have my original BC from Argentina. Looks like something from 1841. Even have my original passport from when we came to the USA. The funny part is that I was like 1 1/2 years old but it says “soltero” which means single. I wasn’t married then. :)

425 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:05:58pm

re: #418 researchok

‘You look fine’ is always answered with, ‘Just fine?”

426 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:06:48pm

re: #424 Gus 802

Hmm. I actually have my original BC from Argentina. Looks like something from 1841. Even have my original passport from when we came to the USA. The funny part is that I was like 1 1/2 years old but it says “soltero” which means single. I wasn’t married then. :)

Hey hey, I’m seein’ some layers here. How do I know this wasn’t photoshopped?

/

427 McSpiff  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:07:24pm

re: #425 researchok

‘You look fine’ is always answered with, ‘Just fine?”

“Not bad”. Got that one from Dad…

428 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:08:36pm

re: #426 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey hey, I’m seein’ some layers here. How do I know this wasn’t photoshopped?

/

I’m pretty sure it’s original since it’s on the original slate stone plate.

429 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:08:40pm

“All the strange people on your side of the family”

430 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:09:21pm

Interesting how modern technology has made people more paranoid. That is with the advent of Photoshop, etc. Is it real? Is IT ReAl?

431 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:09:42pm

re: #430 Gus 802

Interesting how modern technology has made people more paranoid. That is with the advent of Photoshop, etc. Is it real? Is IT ReAl?

What exactly do you mean by that????

432 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:10:02pm

re: #429 researchok

“All the strange people on your side of the family”

Ugh. Family! No more family for me today! Noooooo!

433 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:10:08pm

re: #425 researchok

‘You look fine’ is always answered with, ‘Just fine?”

That would never happen here in my home…… for one thing, she never asks me and she always looks fine.

434 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:10:15pm

re: #430 Gus 802

Interesting how modern technology has made people more paranoid. That is with the advent of Photoshop, etc. Is it real? Is IT ReAl?

dan rather is not amused/

435 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:10:24pm

re: #428 Gus 802

I’m pretty sure it’s original since it’s on the original slate stone plate.

I been hearin’ some rumors that you were really born in Borneo. How am I to believe that you didn’t just sneak into Argentina in order to steal welfare benefits?

/

436 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:10:43pm

re: #431 researchok

What exactly do you mean by that???

I meant to say that I think you’re a gun totting Republican that kills baby sea kittens.

//

437 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:10:50pm

re: #424 Gus 802

Hmm. I actually have my original BC from Argentina. Looks like something from 1841. Even have my original passport from when we came to the USA. The funny part is that I was like 1 1/2 years old but it says “soltero” which means single. I wasn’t married then. :)

You hear that?!1 Gus admitted he’s a Foreign Peronist Progressive!!1

/Dorkus

438 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:10:51pm

re: #429 researchok

“All the strange people on your side of the family”

“He/she’s your kid!”

439 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:11:34pm

re: #436 Gus 802

I meant to say that I think you’re a gun totting Republican that kills baby sea kittens.

//

You say that like there is something wrong with that.
/

440 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:12:01pm

re: #439 researchok

You say that like there is something wrong with that.
/

Broccoli is murder!

441 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:13:16pm

“I could tell you things about your last girlfriend. Let’s just say you’[re lucky I married you”

“…….It doesn’t matter what- just things I know..”

442 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:13:54pm

re: #440 Gus 802

Broccoli is murder!

Delicious, tasty murder.

/

443 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:13:58pm

re: #435 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I been hearin’ some rumors that you were really born in Borneo. How am I to believe that you didn’t just sneak into Argentina in order to steal welfare benefits?

/

Exactly. Come to think of it. I think we had Medicaid for a while there. But we were legal. So, my dad got Blue Cross coverage with his first decent job. That was around 1969.

444 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:14:12pm

re: #440 Gus 802

Broccoli is murder!

No spiny chayote is murder…… pay attention. It looks like a mutant kiwi fruit.

445 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:15:10pm

re: #444 Mr Pancakes

No spiny chayote is murder… pay attention. It looks like a mutant kiwi fruit.

Broccoli is just an edible Bonsai tree. /

446 Aceofwhat?  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:15:23pm

i iz tired. good night, good people-

447 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:15:30pm

re: #443 Gus 802

Exactly. Come to think of it. I think we had Medicaid for a while there. But we were legal. So, my dad got Blue Cross coverage with his first decent job. That was around 1969.

Aha! I knew it! You’re not a Real American! Get out of my country!

///

448 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:15:32pm

“There was a time you wanted to go shopping with me”

449 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:16:07pm

re: #448 researchok

“There was a time you wanted to go shopping with me”

You’re not going to wear THAT shirt!

450 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:16:26pm

re: #445 Gus 802

Broccoli is just an edible Bonsai tree. /

That that was curled parsley.

451 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:16:44pm

re: #447 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Aha! I knew it! You’re not a Real American! Get out of my country!

///

Quiet! Truth is my dad was a Peronist-Progressive spy!

452 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:17:44pm

I had better stop.

I’m starting to miss my ex

453 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:17:47pm

re: #451 Gus 802

Quiet! Truth is my dad was a Peronist-Progressive spy!

He voted for Ross Perot?

454 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:17:56pm

Funny. I asked my dad about Peron last week. He was like “I don’t know.” He’s 79. Never was into politics. Me, I have no memory of Argentina let alone Peron. Maybe I should drop some brown acid too and I’ll remember.

//

455 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:18:02pm

re: #449 Gus 802

You’re not going to wear THAT shirt!

That was my grandmother to me. If I didn’t walk out of the house looking like I was going to church, she got antsy. And God help me if I came how with any kind of stain on my clothes.

456 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:18:40pm

Manana all

457 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:19:11pm

re: #455 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That was my grandmother to me. If I didn’t walk out of the house looking like I was going to church, she got antsy. And God help me if I came how with any kind of stain on my clothes.

There’s pre-soaked and pre-stained. Once your clothing is pre-stained you won’t have to worry about getting another stain on it.

458 researchok  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:19:14pm

“And remember to drop off the dry cleaning”

459 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:19:46pm

The bombings that flattened several Qaddafi buildings last week (and probably were attempted by Qaddafi) were done by Norway. Which seems to have tried to kill him again.

4:49am
Libyan state television says NATO had bombed close to TV building during Gaddafi’s speech early on Saturday morning.

460 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:20:59pm

re: #459 ProLifeLiberal

The bombings that flattened several Qaddafi buildings last week (and probably were attempted by Qaddafi) were done by Norway. Which seems to have tried to kill him again.

Fraker’s got more lives than a cat.

461 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:20:59pm

re: #459 ProLifeLiberal

The bombings that flattened several Qaddafi buildings last week (and probably were attempted by Qaddafi) were done by Norway. Which seems to have tried to kill him again.

The Norwegian AF pilots were probably all high fiving each other. “Finally! We get to drop bombs without blue paint on them.”

//

462 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:23:20pm

re: #460 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Fraker’s got more lives than a cat.

Yep. On a serious note think about how much Germany was bombed in WWII. They never “got” Hitler.

463 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:24:34pm

re: #457 Gus 802

There’s pre-soaked and pre-stained. Once your clothing is pre-stained you won’t have to worry about getting another stain on it.

My grandmother grew up working for every penny she ever had. Raised six kids by herself, working her fingers to the bone day in and day out. To her, clothes aren’t a commodity, they’re an investment. If you buy a shirt today and get mud on it tomorrow, that’s money down the drain.

She also absolutely refuses to borrow anything she doesn’t think she’ll be able to pay back. I can recall birthdays and Christmases in the past where she’s asked my folks how much a gift cost, just so she could reimburse them.

464 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:24:50pm

re: #461 Gus 802

Norwegian is the 2nd largest contributor genealogically to me, so I might be biased when I say that I’m impressed. They seem to be utilitarian in this. They know that the fighting will end when Qaddafi’s gone. Ergo, they are trying to make Qaddafi gone.

465 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:27:19pm

re: #464 ProLifeLiberal

Norwegian is the 2nd largest contributor genealogically to me, so I might be biased when I say that I’m impressed. They seem to be utilitarian in this. They know that the fighting will end when Qaddafi’s gone. Ergo, they are trying to make Qaddafi gone.

Norway has a great air force even though it’s small compared to larger nations. Mostly F-16s. Top notch pilots and a couple put on great air displays at airshows. Some of the best flying to be seen.

466 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:28:11pm

re: #462 Gus 802

Yep. On a serious note think about how much Germany was bombed in WWII. They never “got” Hitler.

The bombing never shocks me so much as the number of attempts on the man’s life that failed either due to little things. Like the 20 July plot, which failed because he was shielded primarily by the thick table leg between him and the bomb meant to turn him into meat paste.

467 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:30:06pm

re: #466 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The bombing never shocks me so much as the number of attempts on the man’s life that failed either due to little things. Like the 20 July plot, which failed because he was shielded primarily by the thick table leg between him and the bomb meant to turn him into meat paste.

Didn’t it rattle his brain though? Circumstantially I suppose. After those attempts he really went downhill. So maybe it served a really good purpose even though it failed to kill him.

468 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:33:47pm

My neighbors are getting stupid but I don’t care. Stupid but no loud music so I guess it’s cool.

469 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:36:51pm

Check this out…

2009 Nellis AFB Air Show - RNAF F-16 Demo

Youtube Video

You’ll never see the West Coast and East Coast USAF F-16 do this.

470 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:37:28pm

…You’ll never see the West Coast and East Coast USAF Display Team F-16 do this…

471 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:37:45pm

re: #467 Gus 802

Didn’t it rattle his brain though? Circumstantially I suppose. After those attempts he really went downhill. So maybe it served a really good purpose even though it failed to kill him.

Yeah, after the 20 July plot, Hitler basically let Himmler and the SS loose to track down, arrest, torture, and execute anyone even remotely connected to the plot. One of the few that got to go out with any dignity was Rommel, whose branding as a traitor would throw the Wehrmacht into turmoil. He gave him two choices: commit suicide via cyanide and be buried a hero or be tried before the Volksgerichtshof, which would have meant the arrest and possible execution of his own family. He chose suicide and got buried with honors.

472 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:39:08pm

re: #468 Gus 802

My neighbors are getting stupid but I don’t care. Stupid but no loud music so I guess it’s cool.

I hate my noisy neighbors upstairs……. the Washington Redskins just moved out, and people who strap bowling balls to their feet just moved in.

473 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:39:35pm

re: #471 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, after the 20 July plot, Hitler basically let Himmler and the SS loose to track down, arrest, torture, and execute anyone even remotely connected to the plot. One of the few that got to go out with any dignity was Rommel, whose branding as a traitor would throw the Wehrmacht into turmoil. He gave him two choices: commit suicide via cyanide and be buried a hero or be tried before the Volksgerichtshof, which would have meant the arrest and possible execution of his own family. He chose suicide and got buried with honors.

What they did to Rommel was diabolical. I know he fought for the wrong team but still.

474 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:40:52pm

re: #472 Mr Pancakes

I hate my noisy neighbors upstairs… the Washington Redskins just moved out, and people who strap bowling balls to their feet just moved in.

Yuck. I can’t live below people. Unless it’s a pre-stressed 8 inch concrete slab above my head. Even still. Some neighbors find a way to make concrete shake.

475 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:41:47pm

re: #474 Gus 802

Yuck. I can’t live below people. Unless it’s a pre-stressed 8 inch concrete slab above my head. Even still. Some neighbors find a way to make concrete shake.

Yea …… I’m ready to move.

476 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:42:19pm

re: #475 Mr Pancakes

Yea … I’m ready to move.

Do it. That shit will ruin your life.

477 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:44:05pm

re: #473 Gus 802

What they did to Rommel was diabolical. I know he fought for the wrong team but still.

In some ways, his death isn’t surprising given how he was treated by those in charge. When he had a well-supplied and motivated Army, he was practically unbeatable, a true master of armored warfare. But he basically got abandoned in North Africa when Hitler got a hard-on for first invading Russia, and then Britain. And when the war become about defending Europe, he got overruled time and again when it came to deciding how the defensive set-up would be determined. It’s debatable to this day how involved he was in the 20 July plot, but it’s generally agreed he at least knew what was going on. That Hitler saw that as reason enough to force him to commit suicide is just disgusting.

478 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:51:40pm

re: #477 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hitler was a sick man. Clearly stating the obvious here. It could be argued though that Rommel brought it upon himself. Blinding obedience only to be murdered at the hands of the man you followed. Nazi Germany was such a highly archaic system. It was almost like a 20th Century Roman empire of sorts. Primal. Vicious. Playing on human emotions, hatred, racism, bigotry, primitive, etc. The odd part is that it all happened in the mid-20th century and at first the 3rd Reich literally got positive “press reviews” and treated simply as an international oddity.

479 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:53:28pm

Image: f-16-west_coast.jpg

Took this several years ago. Not the sharpest pic. West Coast F-16 in Colorado.

480 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:54:26pm

re: #478 Gus 802

Hitler was a sick man. Clearly stating the obvious here. It could be argued though that Rommel brought it upon himself. Blinding obedience only to be murdered at the hands of the man you followed. Nazi Germany was such a highly archaic system. It was almost like a 20th Century Roman empire of sorts. Primal. Vicious. Playing on human emotions, hatred, racism, bigotry, primitive, etc. The odd part is that it all happened in the mid-20th century and at first the 3rd Reich literally got positive “press reviews” and treated simply as an international oddity.

It was treated as a “success story” in the early years, as Hitler was getting people working again, the factories running, and putting Germany back on the map. Of course, like the Roman Empire, the Third Reich was only going to survive through war production and continued conquest. So much of the production was aimed at rebuilding the armed forces, rebuilding that the rest of the world was willing to turn a blind eye to due to the fact that Germany was becoming prosperous as a result.

481 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:58:11pm

re: #477 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

In some ways, his death isn’t surprising given how he was treated by those in charge. When he had a well-supplied and motivated Army, he was practically unbeatable, a true master of armored warfare. But he basically got abandoned in North Africa when Hitler got a hard-on for first invading Russia, and then Britain. And when the war become about defending Europe, he got overruled time and again when it came to deciding how the defensive set-up would be determined. It’s debatable to this day how involved he was in the 20 July plot, but it’s generally agreed he at least knew what was going on. That Hitler saw that as reason enough to force him to commit suicide is just disgusting.

Rommel was superlative tactically and operationally. As a strategist, he was not good. His decision to keep pursuing the British into Egypt after Gazala was folly. He should have halted and returned his air support to allow the invasion of Malta to proceed. Had Germany and Italy conquered Malta, Rommel’s strength was have been greatly increased by unimpeded sea lanes.

482 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 9:58:42pm

re: #480 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It was treated as a “success story” in the early years, as Hitler was getting people working again, the factories running, and putting Germany back on the map. Of course, like the Roman Empire, the Third Reich was only going to survive through war production and continued conquest. So much of the production was aimed at rebuilding the armed forces, rebuilding that the rest of the world was willing to turn a blind eye to due to the fact that Germany was becoming prosperous as a result.

Global society still had this odd fascination with dictators in the mid-20th century. Even Castro was lauded during his early years. Even by a few conservatives if I remember correctly.

483 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:04:01pm

re: #481 Dark_Falcon

Rommel was superlative tactically and operationally. As a strategist, he was not good. His decision to keep pursuing the British into Egypt after Gazala was folly. He should have halted and returned his air support to allow the invasion of Malta to proceed. Had Germany and Italy conquered Malta, Rommel’s strength was have been greatly increased by unimpeded sea lanes.

True enough, like any famous general, he’s not without his flaws. See also: Montgomery, Bernard.

484 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:05:11pm

re: #481 Dark_Falcon

Rommel was superlative tactically and operationally. As a strategist, he was not good. His decision to keep pursuing the British into Egypt after Gazala was folly. He should have halted and returned his air support to allow the invasion of Malta to proceed. Had Germany and Italy conquered Malta, Rommel’s strength was have been greatly increased by unimpeded sea lanes.

Pretty amazing to think that “the war still goes on” in the same region. The fire has erupted in North Africa. I’m really glad though that Egypt is seemingly under control now though. Including pledges to honor treaties with Israel. Still some instances of police brutality but that’s almost universal.

485 Targetpractice  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:05:32pm

re: #482 Gus 802

Global society still had this odd fascination with dictators in the mid-20th century. Even Castro was lauded during his early years. Even by a few conservatives if I remember correctly.

Looking back, it still amazes me how folks in the 50s thought that replacing Batista with Castro would lead to a prosperous and free Cuba. But we as a country have always seemed to have a fascination with “freedom fighters”…provided they’re not opposing us.

486 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:09:29pm

re: #485 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Looking back, it still amazes me how folks in the 50s thought that replacing Batista with Castro would lead to a prosperous and free Cuba. But we as a country have always seemed to have a fascination with “freedom fighters”…provided they’re not opposing us.

Yep. Or the underdog. Even if we don’t study it closely. All that counts is that he or she it the underdog. 50 years later Castro is finally relinquishing his power. But that was after he spent decades oppressing anyone who opposed him and having qualities similar to American rightists such as his oppression of Cuban homosexuals all the while the cool left wing Americans were supporting him. Yep. It’s almost designed to be confusing.

487 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:12:21pm

re: #486 Gus 802

Yep. Or the underdog. Even if we don’t study it closely. All that counts is that he or she it the underdog. 50 years later Castro is finally relinquishing his power. But that was after he spent decades oppressing anyone who opposed him and having qualities similar to American rightists such as his oppression of Cuban homosexuals all the while the cool left wing Americans were supporting him. Yep. It’s almost designed to be confusing.

Careful, Gus. You’re going to put your “PROGRESSIVE!!!11” credentials in jeopardy.

/

488 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:12:30pm

re: #486 Gus 802

Yep. Or the underdog. Even if we don’t study it closely. All that counts is that he or she it the underdog. 50 years later Castro is finally relinquishing his power. But that was after he spent decades oppressing anyone who opposed him and having qualities similar to American rightists such as his oppression of Cuban homosexuals all the while the cool left wing Americans were supporting him. Yep. It’s almost designed to be confusing.

And to be frank. Castro’s Cuba and his treatment of gays was far worse then anything American rightists ever accomplished post Stonewall which was the defining moment historically. Before that this assessment would be questionable.

489 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:14:05pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Careful, Gus. You’re going to put your “PROGRESSIVE!!!11” credentials in jeopardy.

/

Oh noz! I’m used to it. Che Guevera was an asshole too. Both he and Castro hated modern music — i.e. rock music. Which they so as a capitalist mechanism and all that jazz. Their hatred of the Beatles is infamous.

490 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:15:10pm

Oops. Which they SAW as a capitalist mechanism…

491 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:24:56pm

Shining Path being another example. They make Teabaggers look like Ghandi.

492 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:29:56pm

A lot of people on the left are always harping about the Council of Foreign Relations. They’re actually pretty cool.

Family Planning and U.S. Foreign Policy

493 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 10:33:20pm

re: #491 Gus 802

Shining Path being another example. They make Teabaggers look like Ghandi.

Glad to see you have the proper perspective, Gus.

Heading to bed now.

494 Gus  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:16:09pm

LOL I just clicked a search on Twitter for #LGF. The lunatics are still Tweeting their craziness! So bizarre. I’ve never seen anything like this. The stalkers have bigger psychological problems then I first thought. I guess it’s cool thought that they’re doing something with their lives. Never thought about stalking people myself but I suppose that could be a legitimate hobby.

495 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Fri, Apr 29, 2011 11:45:55pm

re: #446 Aceofwhat?

i iz tired. good night, good people-

Dang, I was tied up too long. I do have some comments about your last post. Should you desire to continue that conversation, post in this thread and we can pick it up.

I will say that I think you are too worried about the danger of overstating the AGW case. Deniers have been outright lying about the anti-AGW case for a long time and it seems to be working. Though, imo, we should stick to the well supported claims, even if it is just to be honest with ourselves.

496 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:30:13am

re: #475 Mr Pancakes

Yea … I’m ready to move.

I’ve always lived below people in apartments, it’s only been a problem once, when a really dumb parent let their kid bounce a basketball indoors

I always wear headphones anyhow! I never notice ambient noise, I barely can hear the phone

497 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:30:53am

re: #494 Gus 802

LOL I just clicked a search on Twitter for #LGF. The lunatics are still Tweeting their craziness! So bizarre. I’ve never seen anything like this. The stalkers have bigger psychological problems then I first thought. I guess it’s cool thought that they’re doing something with their lives. Never thought about stalking people myself but I suppose that could be a legitimate hobby.

I figure if they’re fascinated by us, cool!


then again, that’s my job, to fascinate people

498 haakondahl  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 8:07:33pm

Friday was such a nice day that people were walking about as if pleasantly stunned. Perhaps we should blame climate change. Saturday was unremarkable. No doubt that is climate change too.

If you think I am being dishonest or needlessly prickly, take it up with Feynman. If you don’t get the reference, it’s from a lecture on probability.

You don’t get to draw a circle around the results which interest you and then thoughtfully reflect on the fact that *all these things are in the circle* hmmm…

I nominate this “top scientist” for the 2011 Texas Sharpshooter award.

Scoff all you like, but I am not funded by anybody for my opinion.

499 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sun, May 1, 2011 3:24:07am

re: #498 haakondahl

Way to miss the point.

Energy from the sun drives the weather we see on this planet. So it’s not drawing a bulls-eye around only the results that prove a particular point. It’s drawing a bulls-eye around all weather on planet earth since all weather is affected by the heat energy present in the system.

In that sense yes, your nice Friday is affected by climate change. So was your unremarkable Sunday. Had less energy been present in the system different results may have happened, but didn’t. Climate change models predict a higher probability of extreme weather as well (not just tornadoes and hurricanes). But higher probability doesn’t mean that on any particular day you will be faced worse than normal weather.

Of course, being familiar with probability I’m sure you were aware of that. Why you choose to twist that around is anyone’s guess.


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