Sarah Palin’s Word Salad of the Day: ‘Hells No!’

End federal cowboy poetry subsidies now!
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Professor of economics Sarah Palin has the quote of the day:

“Hells no. I would not vote to increase that debt ceiling.”

The half-governor explained further:

“It turns my stomach to hear this assumption articulated that we have to, despite the fact that we are raking in the federal government $6 billion a day. Take that money and service our debt first and pay down some of that debt.”

And further:

When asked about Michele Bachman, Palin said she respects her because she has had to “go up against the elites, if you will in the party, and buck some tide.”

And further:

“I would say before you think about seriously voting to increase the debt limit and incur more unsustainable, immoral, unethical debt that is really going to ruin our country to continue down this path, prioritize, service the debt first and pay for the services that are constitutionally mandated. Let the state take care of a lot of the service and projects. If a state wants to do something a little special like extra roads, or extra museums and monuments and cowboy poetry, let that state figure out how they are going to pay for it.”

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238 comments
1 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:18:10pm

Is it just me or does it seem like her IQ is dropping with each passing month?

2 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:18:56pm

“Hells no?” Is she a 16 year old girl now?

3 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:21:58pm
At the 3:38 mark Baier asks Palin if she were a member of Congress whether or not she would vote against raising the debt ceiling. Palin answers with a “Hells no!” (When in fact she actually meant “Hell’s yes!”)

She’s so damn stupid.

4 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:22:14pm
5 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:23:06pm

And what, half-governor, would be the outcome?

She doesn’t care. This is just knee-jerk on her part. Spastic reaction.

6 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:25:50pm
“I would say before you think about seriously voting to increase the debt limit and incur more unsustainable, immoral, unethical debt that is really going to ruin our country to continue down this path,” she said. “Prioritize, service the debt first and pay for the services that are constitutionally mandated. Let the state take care of a lot of the service and projects. If a state wants to do something a little special like extra roads, or extra museums and monuments and cowboy poetry, let that state figure out how they are going to pay for it.” [Link: news.yahoo.com…]


Extra roads, museums, and cowboy poetry; that’s how we became immoral debtors.

7 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:28:37pm

re: #4 Varek Raith

Image: wonder.jpg

Talk to the hand! — Sarah Palin after being challenged her first public debate.

#notintendedtobefactual

8 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:29:10pm
When asked about Michele Bachman, Palin says she respects her because she has had to “go up against the elites, if you will in the party, and buck some tide.”

WTF is “buck some tide”

Cowboy poetry?

9 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:30:45pm

“Service the debt”? Alright, let’s start by ending the Bush tax cuts, ceasing combat operations overseas, going at the defense budget with a vengeance, and ending any and all subsidies/tax breaks for major corporations.

10 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:30:51pm

re: #6 jaunte

“Extra roads”? What the hell is she babbling about?

11 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:31:41pm

re: #10 Obdicut

“We don’t need any roads, we just fly our floatplanes everywhere we want to go.”

12 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:32:46pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

WTF is “buck some tide”

Cowboy poetry?

The modern day Shakespeare strikes again. Will she be refudiated?

13 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:34:14pm

re: #11 jaunte

Does anyone really think the problem with the US is that we’ve got too many roads? That’s the issue?

I generally find roads to be useful things.

14 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:35:51pm

re: #12 Winny Spencer
The Bard is spinning in his grave. //

15 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:36:51pm

re: #13 Obdicut

It’s a mystery to me; maybe she thinks less should be spent on infrastructure repair/improvements.

16 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:38:09pm

re: #13 Obdicut

Does anyone really think the problem with the US is that we’ve got too many roads? That’s the issue?

I generally find roads to be useful things.

What Alaska needs is another “bridge to nowhere”.

17 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:38:12pm

Sigh. Living proof of the adage that the less you know the more certain you are of things.

18 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:39:00pm

re: #13 Obdicut

Ah, here it is: Sept. 6, 2010:

In an effort to rejuvenate lagging jobs numbers, President Obama today proposed $50 billion in new spending on transportation infrastructure. In doing so he used unusually blunt language to accuse Republicans of hampering his policy. “When it comes to just about everything we’ve done to strengthen the middle class to rebuild our economy, almost every Republican in Congress says ‘no,’” the president said. [Link: blogs.abcnews.com…]
19 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:39:48pm
20 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:39:57pm

I agree with her. The government has no business funding cowboy poetry.

21 TedStriker  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:40:27pm

re: #15 jaunte

It’s a mystery to me; maybe she thinks less should be spent on infrastructure repair/improvements.

Which is fucking stupid, because we aren’t spending enough to maintain the infrastructure we have…Palin is a fucking twit, and a dishonest one at that.

22 Summer Seale  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:43:55pm

Hi everyone! Sarah here!

I just want to say and explain that the explanation of my statement is something which people have no business in the public to talk about in a way that reflects badly with the liberal media and thank you all for supporting me in my awesome cause and showing it how it is to everyone out there because it’s important that you know what I meant by the reflection of it when thought about.

So thank you all again and I really hope that we can get together and hyperthise on all the tremendous power that everyone has given me in the last two years as I will soon declare for you the public my announcement of running the gambit for President of the United States.

See ya!

Sarah.

23 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:44:45pm

Sarah Palin… Joe Da Plumber… Duh-e!

24 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:44:57pm

re: #20 Charles

That Elko festival could certainly do without federal funding.

Charlie Seemann, the executive director of the Western Folklife Center in Elko, Nev., says that federal funding only made up about 7 percent of the funding for last year’s event.
[Link: firstread.msnbc.msn.com…]
25 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:48:20pm

re: #22 Summer

So good it’s eerie.

26 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:48:34pm

but did you approve of her dress?

27 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:50:25pm

Why does Sarah Palin hate cowboys?

28 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:50:26pm

I mean, if some no good, shiftless cowboy wants to lay around all day doing nothing but writing sonnets, that’s fine, but the feds shouldn’t be paying for it.

29 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:52:21pm

re: #28 Charles

I mean, if some no good, shiftless cowboy wants to lay around all day doing nothing but writing sonnets, that’s fine, but the feds shouldn’t be paying for it.

Nothing but a bunch of long haired, no good for nothing pantywaisted ne’er-do-wells!

30 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:53:03pm

re: #29 Gus 802

Nothing but a bunch of long haired, no good for nothing pantywaisted ne’er-do-wells!

DFHs. Dirty Fucking Hippie, as they say.

31 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:53:08pm

re: #28 Charles

I don’t know, this shit is pretty damn sweet.

32 Kid A  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:54:07pm

Cowboy poetry is code for Real Americans.
/

33 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:56:31pm

re: #31 Obdicut

I don’t know, this shit is pretty damn sweet.

[Video]

Whenever the GOP goes after the arts, whatever arts, I get pissed off. It’s such a never ending battle.

34 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:56:42pm

Yahoo comment from “Master at Arms”:

Since Alaska was purchased from Russia with Federal Tax Money, why is it that only residents of Alaska get to share in the oil revenue?
35 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:57:55pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

Whenever the GOP goes after the arts, whatever arts, I get pissed off. It’s such a never ending battle.

Me too. It’s always a big hit with their base, too.

36 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:58:00pm

re: #31 Obdicut

I don’t know, this shit is pretty damn sweet.

[Video]

almost sounds like music

37 HoosierHoops  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:58:27pm

We need more smoky beatnik Cowboy bars..with congos
I was riding my horse
Bump..bom..bung
Wishing I was Clint Eastwood
bump..bom..bung
Smoking my Marlboro
Bump..bo..bung
Riding on the trail
Bump..bom..bung
I’m a Cowboy poet..
Clint..Clint..Where did you go?
Our nation turns it’s lonely eyes towards you
I’m a cowboy Poet

38 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:58:38pm

Cowboy poet, Red Steagall


The entertainment career of Red Steagall has covered a period of over 40 years and has spanned the globe from Australia to the Middle East, to South America and to the Far East. He has performed for heads of state including a special party for President Reagan at the White House in 1983, plus three overseas tours to the Middle East, the Far East, Europe, Australia, and South America.

Always promoting Western heritage and the cowboy way of life, Steagall produces Cowboy Gatherings each year in San Antonio, Fort Worth and Richmond Texas. In April of 1991, the Texas Legislature named Steagall as the official Cowboy Poet of Texas. He is also the official Cowboy Poet Laureate of the City of San Juan Capistrano, California. He has performed at functions attended by Presidents Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr.

The Sam Noble Special Events Center will be full of family, friends, celebrities and fans on the evening of April 12 to celebrate Steagall’s induction. He will join the ranks of such notables as Buffalo Bill, Willa Cather, J. Frank Dobie, Bass Reeves, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Sam Houston, Ronald Reagan, Will Rogers and Sacagawea. Other 2003 inductees into the Hall of Great Westerners are Walter Merrick, Oklahoma and the late Captain G.W. Arrington, Texas, both addressed in a separate press release. Hall of Great Western Performers inductees for 2003 are Harry Carey Jr. and the late John Carradine. Thirteen categories of the best in Western movies, television, literature and music will also be honored. The Museum will celebrate the official opening of the Western Performers Gallery during a special honoree reception on April 11.

Why does Sarah Palin hate Ronald Reagan?

39 FreedomMoon  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 12:59:23pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

WTF is “buck some tide”

Cowboy poetry?

The expression is buck the tide, which basically means to resist something adamantly. Guess she decided to refudiate the expression with some of her non-self-aware-Shakespearean flavor.

40 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:00:05pm

This thread needs some Cowboy Junkies

41 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:00:08pm

Cowboy love poet astronomy:

I’d use a comet fer a bronk,
And ride him stuck-up like an’ proud:
My spurs would be a pair of stars,
My blanket jes’ a fleecy cloud.
I’d roundup all the planets an’
I’d do it sudden, sure an’ soon,
And then I’d set back ca’m an’ watch
Them mill around the helpless moon.

from “Real Affection,” by Robert V. Carr

42 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:00:18pm

re: #20 Charles

I agree with her. The government has no business funding cowboy poetry.

How about the Shakespeare festivals?

43 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:00:42pm

re: #39 tacuba14

The expression is buck the tide, which basically means to resist something adamantly. Guess she decided to refudiate the expression with some of her non-self-aware-Shakespearean flavor.

You buck a trend and swim against a tide, says I.

44 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:01:10pm

re: #43 iceweasel

You buck a trend and swim against a tide, says I.

Better not let Buck read that.

//

45 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:01:16pm

re: #40 iceweasel

This thread needs some Cowboy Junkies

[Video]

it does, thanks

46 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:01:49pm

re: #40 iceweasel

This thread needs some Cowboy Junkies

[Video]

Have you heard their last album? It’s all Vic Chesnutt covers. I got it a couple days ago and it’s sublime.

47 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:02:02pm

re: #45 albusteve

it does, thanks

I had a feeling you’d appreciate that Steve. How goes it?

48 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:02:08pm

re: #40 iceweasel

and Sweet Jane!
res kewl

49 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:02:11pm

re: #42 Sionainn
I think NYC has one in June.

50 Winny Spencer  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:03:35pm

re: #31 Obdicut

I don’t know, this shit is pretty damn sweet.

[Video]

Sweet. Needed that after all the noise masquerading as music in the latter part of the last thread.

51 Charles Johnson  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:03:48pm

re: #40 iceweasel

This thread needs some Cowboy Junkies

[Video]

See, that’s what I mean. Bunch of junkies, sitting around writing their poetry on the federal dole. How do we know they’re not using their poetry money to buy drugs? It’s an outrage.

52 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:04:07pm

re: #47 iceweasel

I had a feeling you’d appreciate that Steve. How goes it?

super…
about to head out for the wilderness for a bit

53 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:04:28pm

re: #51 Charles

See, that’s what I mean. Bunch of junkies, sitting around writing their poetry on the federal dole. How do we know they’re not using their poetry money to buy their drugs? It’s an outrage.

Damn hippies. Cowboys were America’s original hippies right after the Indians.

//

54 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:05:37pm

re: #51 Charles

See, that’s what I mean. Bunch of junkies, sitting around writing their poetry on the federal dole. How do we know they’re not using their poetry money to buy drugs? It’s an outrage.

Will rhyme for food.

55 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:06:09pm

When asked about Michele Bachman, Palin said she respects her because she has had to “go up against the elites, if you will in the party, and buck some tide

is hugely popular with misinformed rubes, says really dumb things like me and looks stupid too, just like me!

57 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:06:45pm

re: #54 iceweasel
LOL

58 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:08:26pm

Palin is an elite now no matter how hard she tries to act like she’s this folksy outsider.

59 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:08:28pm

re: #49 PhillyPretzel

I think NYC has one in June.

There’s a huge one in Cedar City, Utah every year.

60 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:09:43pm

re: #51 Charles

See, that’s what I mean. Bunch of junkies, sitting around writing their poetry on the federal dole. How do we know they’re not using their poetry money to buy drugs? It’s an outrage.

What is it about the combination of art and cowboys that strikes such instinctive fear and disgust into the hearts of wingnuts?

61 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:10:19pm

How ironic. This even is held in Elko, Nevada.

Mayor Michael J Franzoia (R)
Senate Dean Rhoads (R)
Assembly John C. Carpenter (R)
U.S. Congress Dean Heller (R)

Notice all of the Rs?

Human Events derisively says…

This is what Reid wants you to pay for:

Video is hosted by the Elko Chamber of Commerce.

62 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:10:28pm

Cowboy poetry?
She talking about Willie Nelson?

63 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:10:35pm

re: #61 Gus 802

This EVENT is held.

64 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:10:44pm

re: #59 Sionainn
There are quite a few cities that have Shakespeare Festivals. That was the only one I could think of at the moment.

65 allegro  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:12:15pm

re: #33 Stanley Sea

Whenever the GOP goes after the arts, whatever arts, I get pissed off. It’s such a never ending battle.

Interestingly, I was flipping around the cable channels one night a week or two ago and stopped for a minute to watch Huckabee saying to never ever reduce or cut the funding for the arts ‘cuz all kids deserve to learn and excel, not the just the left brained kids. He surprised me.

66 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:12:23pm

re: #60 Jimmah

Maybe something to do with this…

67 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:12:30pm

re: #62 reine.de.tout
That is possible. I have no idea what goes on in her mind.

69 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:13:10pm

“Extra roads”?

Maybe in Alaska they don’t need roads.
But the rest of us …

70 [deleted]  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:14:14pm
71 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:14:24pm

re: #67 PhillyPretzel

That is possible. I have no idea what goes on in her mind.

When she’s talking, she almost sounds like she almost makes sense. And then you see a written transcript of what she said, and - wow. Garbledy-goosh.

72 Jimmah  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:15:11pm

Gotta go - dessert time! Goodnight from me and ice :)

73 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:15:55pm

Cowboy Mouth
Disconnected
that’s me

74 AntonSirius  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:16:11pm

re: #51 Charles

See, that’s what I mean. Bunch of junkies, sitting around writing their poetry on the federal dole. How do we know they’re not using their poetry money to buy drugs? It’s an outrage.

It’s OK, they’re on the Canadian dole.

75 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:16:16pm

2008 Presidential Election results in Elko County Nevada:

McCain/Palin 70 percent
Obama/Biden 29 percent
Other 1 percent

[Link: www.city-data.com…]

76 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:16:27pm

Last time Republicans had the chance to pay off some debt with a surplus, they gave tax cuts to the rich (ok a small piece for the rest).

Why would anyone believe they are sincere about paying off the debt?

77 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:16:39pm

re: #72 Jimmah

Gotta go - dessert time! Goodnight from me and ice :)

See ya Ice and Jimmah.

78 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:17:33pm

re: #71 reine.de.tout

When she’s talking, she almost sounds like she almost makes sense. And then you see a written transcript of what she said, and - wow. Garbledy-goosh.

I worked with a woman once who was crazy as a loon. From a local soft-drink family. They wouldn’t let her work in the family business, so she went to work for the state, LOL.

She would say things that sounded like they ought to make sense, except they wouldn’t. Like she would argue with everybody around her that there was no way to figure the MPG her section’s vehicles were getting, because at the beginning of each month, you still had some of last month’s gasoline left in the tank.

It sounds like it ought to make sense, except it’s just stupid.

79 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:18:29pm

So we’re talking about a cowboy poetry annual even being held in a staunchly Republican Nevada town, Elko, in a staunchly Republican county, and promoted by the Elko Chamber of Commerce. And McCain/Palin won in Elko County by a landslide.

Anyone see the disconnect here?

80 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:19:11pm

I did it again. lol I must hate my “t” key when typing out ‘event”.

81 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:19:41pm

re: #64 PhillyPretzel

There are quite a few cities that have Shakespeare Festivals. That was the only one I could think of at the moment.

Yes, and a lot of these towns and cities really rely on the tourist dollars that they get each year when they hold those festivals.

82 Amory Blaine  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:19:46pm

re: #79 Gus 802

So we’re talking about a cowboy poetry annual even being held in a staunchly Republican Nevada town, Elko, in a staunchly Republican county, and promoted by the Elko Chamber of Commerce. And McCain/Palin won in Elko County by a landslide.

Anyone see the disconnect here?

It’s only a disconnect if you follow the facts. You must stay outraged, then you will realize they are dirty liberals.

/

83 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:20:23pm

re: #80 Gus 802

I did it again. lol I must hate my “t” key when typing out ‘event”.

I keep doing that, but adding an “r” to make it Certificate of Liver Birth.” Yuck.

84 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:21:25pm

re: #83 Sionainn

I keep doing that, but adding an “r” to make it Certificate of Liver Birth.” Yuck.

I quite often write ‘think’ when I mean to write ‘thing”. I just did it, just now, typing this out.

85 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:22:00pm

re: #83 Sionainn

I keep doing that, but adding an “r” to make it Certificate of Liver Birth.” Yuck.

Just type “COLB”.

86 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:22:23pm

re: #82 Amory Blaine

It’s only a disconnect if you follow the facts. You must stay outraged, then you will realize they are dirty liberals.

/

I’m laughing my head off here. This Elko cowboy poetry festival is backed by local Republicans. Do the GOP members of the House and Senate realize this?

87 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:23:27pm

re: #86 Gus 802
They probably don’t know.

88 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:23:57pm

re: #85 reine.de.tout

Just type “COLB”.

I actually never thought of that.

89 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:24:17pm

re: #79 Gus 802

So we’re talking about a cowboy poetry annual even being held in a staunchly Republican Nevada town, Elko, in a staunchly Republican county, and promoted by the Elko Chamber of Commerce. And McCain/Palin won in Elko County by a landslide.

Anyone see the disconnect here?

All she sees is Harry Reid.

90 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:24:28pm

re: #86 Gus 802

I’m laughing my head off here. This Elko cowboy poetry festival is backed by local Republicans. Do the GOP members of the House and Senate realize this?

it’s a small thing, ain’t gonna make much hay….it’s what you hope from GOP elected officials isn’t it?….turn on the people that voted them in so to speak

91 TedStriker  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:25:08pm

re: #56 recusancy

Mitch Daniels To Sign Bill Stripping Federal Funds From Planned Parenthood in Indiana

Daniels is a fucking douche…he’d rather gut Indiana’s Medicaid program of its federal funding, because the feds say that states can’t limit legitimate health organizations from administering federal health funds (of which PP is one).

Daniels, and those like him (such as those doing almost the same thing in OK, IIRC), are heartless, criminal pieces of shit…

92 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:25:12pm

re: #81 Sionainn

Yes, and a lot of these towns and cities really rely on the tourist dollars that they get each year when they hold those festivals.

The Elko article said 7 Mil in one week.

93 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:26:57pm

re: #90 albusteve

it’s a small thing, ain’t gonna make much hay…it’s what you hope from GOP elected officials isn’t it?…turn on the people that voted them in so to speak

I have no idea what the local GOP thinks about Palin’s pablum. Like Stanley Sea said, all they’re seeing is Harry Reid. And yes, the DC GOP has jumped on the bandwagon in contrast to their peers in Nevada. There’s a severe lack of ideological consistency and principle here.

94 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:27:40pm

re: #81 Sionainn

Yes, and a lot of these towns and cities really rely on the tourist dollars that they get each year when they hold those festivals.

Otherwise in Elko, the visiting is mostly about hunting, fishing or hiking.
[Link: desertislands.org…]

95 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:29:00pm

re: #60 Jimmah

What is it about the combination of art and cowboys that strikes such instinctive fear and disgust into the hearts of wingnuts?

Brokeback?

96 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:30:33pm

re: #95 Naso Tang

When Dutchy plays th’ mouth harp,
An’ we’ve cached our chuck away,
An’ a-feelin’ mighty foxy
An’ a-feelin’ mighty gay,
There’s nothin’ we like better
Than to lend a pattin’ hand,
When Dutchy plays th’ mouth harp,
In a way to beat th’ band.

When Dutchy plays th’ mouth harp—
Plays a cake walk might fine—
‘Tis then us ole cowpunchers
Come a-stepin’ down th’ line;
Around th’ fire shufflin’
An’ a-pattin’ of th’ hand,
When Dutchy plays th’ mouth harp,
In a way to beat th’ band.

by Robert V. Carr,
from Ballads of the Badlands, 1902

97 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:32:39pm

re: #96 jaunte

You you found that so fast I have no idea, but I’ll bet the language read quite differently in 1902.

98 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:32:57pm

How you

99 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:33:21pm

re: #97 Naso Tang

I just had this open in another window, and spotted it:
[Link: www.cowboypoetry.com…]

100 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:33:27pm

re: #93 Gus 802

I have no idea what the local GOP thinks about Palin’s pablum. Like Stanley Sea said, all they’re seeing is Harry Reid. And yes, the DC GOP has jumped on the bandwagon in contrast to their peers in Nevada. There’s a severe lack of ideological consistency and principle here.

are you saying that there are members of the GOP not in lockstep with Palin?….unpossible

101 BishopX  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:33:33pm

The thing about the Cowboy poetry festival is that it’s such a trivial amount of federal money (47,000 a year iirc), but it spawned a wonderful local festival which generates millions of dollars for the town. By that standard it’s a wonderful investment.

102 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:34:34pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

The Elko article said 7 Mil in one week.

Say what?!? 7 million in one week? No way. Now I have to go read that.

103 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:35:01pm

Robert Carr wrote some funny stuff:

Oh, I know an ole cowpuncher, an’ they call him Baldy Joe,
B’cause his hair is somethin’ that is absent, don’t you know;
An’ he sits up in th’ saddle, sort o’ lives there all th’ time,
An’ a-hummin’ an a-hummin’ this here simple little rhyme:

There hain’t no sense
Like a logie fer to sit,
‘Cause you think you hain’t a-gittin’
What you think you orter git.
So it’s quit your jawin’,
Keep a-cinchin’ up your grip,
An’ brace yourself an’ allers
Keep a tight rein on your lip.

104 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:37:04pm
105 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:39:26pm

re: #102 Sionainn

Say what?!? 7 million in one week? No way. Now I have to go read that.

The MSNBC article

[Link: firstread.msnbc.msn.com…]

106 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:41:16pm

Palin is the one who infamously acted like fruit fly research was this bad thing. Anyone’s who taken even a semester of college biology knows how important those flies are to genetics research.

107 wrenchwench  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:41:31pm

The sad tale of what happens to cowboy poets who lose their funding:

108 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:41:45pm

re: #102 Sionainn

7 million dollars, 8,000 visitors.

109 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:41:45pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

The MSNBC article

[Link: firstread.msnbc.msn.com…]

8k attendees inject 7m into the state economy….yowza!

110 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:41:51pm

re: #104 Gus 802

Facebook page: The National Cowboy Poetry Gathering

From their FB wall

Lone Lunemannolini Jørgensen I read about TNCPG in a Norwegian newspaper today, and I think I am in love. When is the next festival? Cause I’m coming! Wonderful!

At this point they may well be thanking Sister Sarah for the free press. Once you look into it it’s really a cool thing.

111 Targetpractice  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:41:52pm

re: #101 BishopX

The thing about the Cowboy poetry festival is that it’s such a trivial amount of federal money (47,000 a year iirc), but it spawned a wonderful local festival which generates millions of dollars for the town. By that standard it’s a wonderful investment.

Except of course that ideologues like Sarah believe that the only investments that count are those done by private persons and corporations, but particularly corporations. They see things like this as a “waste,” since if it was such a good investment, it would have been fully funded through private money and not required any federal dollars.

112 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:42:08pm

Ha! We’re talking 56,000 dollars here.

What a bunch of douche bags.

113 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:42:52pm

re: #112 Gus 802

That’s like, one Palin speech fee…

114 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:43:36pm

re: #113 jaunte

That’s like, one Palin speech fee…

Or half. I have an idea. Why doesn’t Palin donate the 56 grand and shut her pie hole.

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:43:57pm

I bucked some tide once. Was sore for over a month after wards. Wouldn’t recommend it.

116 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:44:31pm

re: #111 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Except of course that ideologues like Sarah believe that the only investments that count are those done by private persons and corporations, but particularly corporations. They see things like this as a “waste,” since if it was such a good investment, it would have been fully funded through private money and not required any federal dollars.

She is such a fraud. When she spent that 1/2 term in the Gov. seat of AK, one of the largest recipients of fed $.

demagogue fraud.

Oh and she’s at the correspondents dinner too I guess. Also, too, here’s a goodie: Trump and Boehner are going to be at the same table.

Will it be on CSPAN?

117 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:44:58pm

re: #113 jaunte

That’s like, one Palin speech fee…

1/2 appropriately.

118 Sionainn  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:45:01pm

re: #105 Stanley Sea

The MSNBC article

[Link: firstread.msnbc.msn.com…]

Thanks! My mistake because when I read what you wrote, I thought you meant 7 million people, not dollars, and I knew that couldn’t possibly be right.

119 Max  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:46:55pm

I don’t entirely agree with this post.

“Hells no” is a pretty common expression. It’s used by most people I know, even people who hold glittering degrees from ancient, Northeastern universities say “hells no” to appear laid back and funny. That’s what Palin is trying to do too. Thats her MO, thats why she appeals to so many Middle Americans.

I don’t scorn her for this anymore than I scorn Bush 43 for his Bushisms or Obama for saying “folks.”

120 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:47:01pm

Ya know what’s cool? This blog is a data mine. Half of what we do is find, dig and report facts. I learn so much in a day.

LGF deserves a fed subsidy for it’s education accomplishments.

121 thecommodore  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:47:57pm

re: #1 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Is it just me or does it seem like her IQ is dropping with each passing month?

My IQ drops every time I hear her speak or read what she says.

122 webevintage  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:49:44pm

I swear to God my IQ drops just listening to Palin….

123 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:50:31pm

re: #119 Max D. Reinhardt


I don’t scorn her for this anymore than I scorn Bush 43 for his Bushisms or Obama for saying “folks.”

OK, but would you scorn her if she said Hell No?

124 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:51:08pm

re: #119 Max D. Reinhardt

Her language isn’t really the main issue.

Warren Buffet:
Failure to raise debt ceiling “asinine”

Warren Buffett said he expects the Congress to raise the nation’s debt ceiling before it expires in mid-May, and said it would be that body’s “most asinine act” ever if it failed.

Speaking on Saturday at Berkshire Hathaway’s (BRKa.N) annual shareholder meeting in Omaha, Nebraska, Buffett said imposing a debt ceiling was a mistake in the first place.

Still, he projected that “the United States was not going to have a debt crisis of any kind as long as we keep issuing our notes in our own currency.”

125 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:51:46pm

re: #124 jaunte

Her language isn’t really the main issue.

Warren Buffet:
Failure to raise debt ceiling “asinine”

What does he know :D, America’s favorite half term governor knows best.

126 Max  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:51:57pm

re: #123 Naso Tang

OK, but would you scorn her if she said Hell No?

I would not.

127 thecommodore  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:53:04pm

I shudder to think what the offspring of Palin and George W. Bush would be like…or worse yet…Jim Hoft!

128 Max  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:53:42pm

re: #124 jaunte

Her language isn’t really the main issue.

Warren Buffet:
Failure to raise debt ceiling “asinine”

Criticizing her economics policies is all well and good, but that’s not what this post is about. It’s not a criticism of her position on raising the debt ceiling, it is about her speech.

129 austin_blue  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:54:29pm

Afternoon scaly friends! How’s tricks?

130 thecommodore  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:55:33pm

re: #12 Winny Spencer

The modern day Shakespeare strikes again. Will she be refudiated?

I’d be careful about bringing that up with her. It could set off a nasty squirmish.

131 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:58:08pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

Ya know what’s cool? This blog is a data mine. Half of what we do is find, dig and report facts. I learn so much in a day.

LGF deserves a fed subsidy for it’s education accomplishments.

Yes, it is. If you need/want to know something, somebody here will have the info.
Been like that as long as I’ve been here.

132 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:58:12pm

re: #128 Max D. Reinhardt

Criticizing her economics policies is all well and good, but that’s not what this post is about. It’s not a criticism of her position on raising the debt ceiling, it is about her speech.

I read this primarily as mocking her qualifications to opine about economic issues:

Half governor turns financial analyst

Professor of economics Sarah Palin

133 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:58:33pm

First, they came for the cowboys,
but I wasn’t a cowboy so I said nothing.

Then they came for the cowboy poets
but I wasn’t a cowboy Poet so I said nothing.

Then they came for Sarah Palin
and I cheered for three days.

134 andres  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:59:24pm

re: #133 Iwouldprefernotto

I would prefer not to, but I laughed a little.

135 Max  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:59:49pm

re: #132 jaunte

I read this primarily as mocking her qualifications to opine about economic issues:

Mocking someone is different from criticizing their policies.

136 engineer cat  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:00:10pm

buck some tide

REAL REBELZ CAUZ INTERNATIONAL DEBT CRISEES

eat mah bumpersticker yee haw

137 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:00:39pm

re: #132 jaunte

I read this primarily as mocking her qualifications to opine about economic issues:

And also, possibly, here qualifications to opine about anything. If she isn’t coherent enough to put together a thought comprised of full sentences that make sense … well, I don’t need to go on.

138 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:01:05pm

re: #135 Max D. Reinhardt

Mocking someone is different from criticizing their policies.

Dude, she has no “policies” she just spits out the anti Obama thing for money.

That is all.

139 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:01:29pm

Ha! More…

S. Res. 326:
A resolution designating the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, Nevada, as the “National Cowboy…

RESOLUTION

Designating the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, Nevada, as the ‘National Cowboy Poetry Gathering’.

Whereas working cowboys and the ranching community have contributed greatly to the establishment and perpetuation of western life in the United States;

Whereas the practice of composing verses about life and work on the range dates back to at least the trail drive era of the late 19th century;

Whereas the Cowboy Poetry Gathering has revived and continues to preserve the art of cowboy poetry by increasing awareness and appreciation of this tradition-based art form;

Whereas the reemergence of cowboy poetry both highlights recitation traditions that are a central form of artistry in communities throughout the West and promotes popular poetry and literature to the general public;

Whereas the Cowboy Poetry Gathering serves as a bridge between urban and rural people by creating a forum for the presentation of art and for the discussion of cultural issues in a humane and non-political manner;

Whereas the Western Folklife Center in Reno, Nevada, established and hosted the inaugural Cowboy Poetry Gathering in January of 1985;

Whereas since its inception 16 years ago, some 200 similar local spin-off events are now held in communities throughout the West; and

Whereas it is proper and desirable to recognize Elko, Nevada, as the original home of the Cowboy Poetry Gathering: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the Senate designates the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, Nevada, as the ‘National Cowboy Poetry Gathering’.

Passed by unanimous consent. The Republicans held the majority in the 2000 Senate under Senate Leader Trent Lott

140 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:02:50pm

re: #135 Max D. Reinhardt

Mocking someone is different from criticizing their policies.

I have plenty of speech quirks, and don’t mock people for theirs.

However, the fact that she can’t put together two complete sentences that make any sense is clear evidence, IMO, that she’s pretty damned unqualified to be in the position she’s in, and making statements purporting to be speaking for conservatives.

141 jaunte  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:03:58pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

Dude, she has no “policies” she just spits out the anti Obama thing for money.

She doesn’t understand the consequences of a technical default for the country’s ability to raise money to service the debt we’ve already accumulated.

142 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:04:48pm

re: #139 Gus 802

Tweet it Gus so I can retweet!!!! LOL

143 andres  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:05:33pm

re: #139 Gus 802

Ha! More…

S. Res. 326:
A resolution designating the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, Nevada, as the “National Cowboy…

Passed by unanimous consent. The Republicans held the majority in the 2000 Senate under Senate Leader Trent Lott

I think the Cowboy Poetry Gathering is a good thing. This is part of the USA culture and it should be celebrated. Heck, we need more cultural celebration, not less.

144 Max  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:07:09pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

Dude, she has no “policies” she just spits out the anti-Obama thing for money.

You don’t know that. You can’t see into her heart.

145 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:07:19pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

Tweet it Gus so I can retweet!!! LOL

Done.

146 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:09:12pm

re: #145 Gus 802

Done.

And done.

147 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:09:34pm

re: #144 Max D. Reinhardt

You don’t know that. You can’t see into her heart.

Oooh boy.

148 navi  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:09:50pm

then all the blue states that pay more than they receive from the fed gov’t will actually have more money! (well at least re: the roads, lol…) and the red states… hmmm Maybe she should rethink that one…

149 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:09:51pm

What bugs me about her is her complete lack of intellectual curiosity. Hell she even seems to disdain intellectualism. Like when she mocks Obama for being a Harvard trained lawyer. It’s just shallow.

150 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:10:40pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

Dude, she has no “policies” she just spits out the anti Obama thing for money.

re: #144 Max D. Reinhardt

You don’t know that. You can’t see into her heart.

No, but it’s a relatively reasonable deduction considering the available evidence.

151 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:13:10pm

re: #147 Stanley Sea

Oooh boy.

I CAN SEE YOUR SOUL!!!

152 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:13:51pm

re: #151 Varek Raith

I CAN SEE YOUR SOUL!!!

Ya’ll don’t want to KNOW my heart’s policies.

154 austin_blue  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:17:28pm

re: #150 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #144 Max D. Reinhardt

No, but it’s a relatively reasonable deduction considering the available evidence.

It is most certainly what she has *done*, isn’t it? QED.

155 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:17:51pm

re: #144 Max D. Reinhardt

You don’t know that. You can’t see into her heart.

oh yes they can, and not just hers….even YOURS!

156 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:18:40pm
157 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:19:24pm

re: #153 Slumbering Behemoth

Troubled Democrats To Undergo Party Counseling

Saw that yesterday, funny.

158 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:20:21pm

re: #144 Max D. Reinhardt

You don’t know that. You can’t see into her heart.

We don’t need to investigate that organ. That’s just crazy talk.

What we do know of Sarah Palin comes directly from her mouth, and it’s not promising.

You must remember that interview with Katie Couric.

159 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:20:56pm

Palin and the Cowpunching Poets
it’s the end of the world….maybe worse

160 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:21:51pm

re: #154 austin_blue

Well, when it was clear that she wasn’t gonna get to be VP, she decided quit her governorship and become a celebrity talking head. Signing book deals, going on speaking tours, a variety of television appearances, and so on, raking in some fat and fast cash.

But no, I can’t see into her heart.

161 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:22:47pm

Sarah is the gift that keeps on giving …

162 thecommodore  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:23:48pm

re: #144 Max D. Reinhardt

You don’t know that. You can’t see into her heart.

No, I can’t see into her heart. But considering the kind of money she’s been making since she quit the governorship (for no reason at all, by the way), I can make a pretty good guess as to what is motivating her:

As long as Fox “News” is willing to pay her obscene amounts of money to do her fact free pandering to the base GOP base (and then play the victim card when someone criticizes her for it), you can expect more and more of this.

163 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:25:27pm

re: #162 thecommodore

No, I can’t see into her heart. But considering the kind of money she’s been making since she quit the governorship (for no reason at all, by the way)

Oh, there definitely was a reason all right. You have it linked right there in that very post.

164 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:26:35pm

re: #161 _RememberTonyC

Sarah is the gift that keeps on giving …

And to my dismay, she keeps giving those gifts to the democrats.

165 Kid A  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:28:37pm

A Palin haiku.

Cowboy poetry,
A Tea Party boogey man,
Hells yes, buck some tide.

166 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:29:14pm

re: #165 Kid A

A Palin haiku.

Cowboy poetry,
A Tea Party boogey man,
Hells yes, buck some tide.

BRILLIANT

167 austin_blue  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:29:45pm

re: #165 Kid A

A Palin haiku.

Cowboy poetry,
A Tea Party boogey man,
Hells yes, buck some tide.

Well played!

168 Kid A  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:29:57pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

BRILLIANT

Lol, thanks!

169 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:30:04pm

Off-topic:

Just found a Canadian TV series called “First Comes Love,” a realty TV show about 5 wedding planners and their efforts to help gay and lesbian couples plan their dream wedding.

It’s interesting.

170 Kid A  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:31:09pm

re: #169 eclectic infidel

Off-topic:

Just found a Canadian TV series called “First Comes Love,” a realty TV show about 5 wedding planners and their efforts to help gay and lesbian couples plan their dream wedding.

It’s interesting.

GAY MARRIAGE THREATENS 50% STRAIGHT-COUPLE DIVORCE RATES!!!
///

171 windsagio  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:31:49pm

re: #169 eclectic infidel

I was helping my friend move today and we found their old (gay) wedding certificate amongst the folderol. Apparently Multnomah county gave them a refund when the courts made it illegal again.

172 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:31:50pm

My first blingee.

[Link: bln.gs…]

173 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:31:58pm

re: #126 Max D. Reinhardt

I would not.

So, you are in favor of NOT increasing the debt ceiling then, or could you simply not be in favor of scorn?

174 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:32:10pm

re: #169 eclectic infidel

I expect Canadia to soon be hit by a tsunami; divine retribution for their immoral ways.

175 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:34:11pm

re: #173 Naso Tang

So, you are in favor of NOT increasing the debt ceiling then, or could you simply not be in favor of scorn?

as for me, I’m almost scorned out, never being quite the scornster to be included with these other pro’s…scorn gets old fast, really fast considering the droning repetition

176 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:34:48pm

OT: So on Fox News, John Stossel had on an Obama impersonator to debate Ron Paul. The real Ron Paul.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Unbelievable bullshit. Very presidential, Ron!

177 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:35:00pm

re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth

I expect Canadia to soon be hit by a tsunami; divine retribution for their immoral ways.

They at least deserve it for creating Molson beer.

//

178 Kid A  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:35:07pm

re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth

179 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:36:01pm

re: #171 windsagio

I was helping my friend move today and we found their old (gay) wedding certificate amongst the folderol. Apparently Multnomah county gave them a refund when the courts made it illegal again.

When prop 8 passed i lost my faith in the decency of humanity for a while.

180 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:36:15pm

re: #176 iceweasel

OT: So on Fox News, John Stossel had on an Obama impersonator to debate Ron Paul. The real Ron Paul.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Unbelievable bullshit. Very presidential, Ron!

I think even Ron Paul knows he’s not presidential material. Really though, debating an impersonator?

181 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:36:22pm

re: #176 iceweasel

OT: So on Fox News, John Stossel had on an Obama impersonator to debate Ron Paul. The real Ron Paul.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Unbelievable bullshit. Very presidential, Ron!

What a douche.

Yeah, I’m talking about Stossel. ;)

182 windsagio  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:36:23pm

re: #176 iceweasel

I know I should be mad, but that’s kind of hilarious.

183 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:36:32pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I just find it hard to accept that someone who was supposedly a communications/journalism major, and who was then awarded a BA, writes like she does.

It did take her 5 different colleges to complete the degree, but still, one would think somewhere along the line she would have discovered proper English.

184 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:36:33pm

re: #169 eclectic infidel

Off-topic:

Just found a Canadian TV series called “First Comes Love,” a realty TV show about 5 wedding planners and their efforts to help gay and lesbian couples plan their dream wedding.

It’s interesting.

Many are on a wedding kick these days it seems. What’s different? Do they argue about who carries the ring?

185 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:37:00pm
186 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:37:03pm

Heh. Looks like Stossel’s gone the way of Geraldo.

187 Kid A  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:37:32pm

re: #183 freetoken

I just find it hard to accept that someone who was supposedly a communications/journalism major, and who was then awarded a BA, writes like she does.

It did take her 5 different colleges to complete the degree, but still, one would think somewhere along the line she would have discovered proper English.

Proper English = Communist and anti-American in her view.

188 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:37:35pm

re: #182 windsagio

I know I should be mad, but that’s kind of hilarious.

I laughed too, but it made me angry. Such stoooopid.

189 windsagio  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:37:38pm

re: #184 Naso Tang

Hay gaiz! I hear gay men are effeminate!!!

Fix’t.

190 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:39:04pm

re: #176 iceweasel

OT: So on Fox News, John Stossel had on an Obama impersonator to debate Ron Paul. The real Ron Paul.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Unbelievable bullshit. Very presidential, Ron!

Stossel is an asshole. The Donald should hire him.

191 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:39:16pm

Some humor to lighten an otherwise warm and sunny day here in Oakland (of course I am indoors again, resting my feet, eating full meals again, planning my recipes for Monday, sleeping 8 hours at a stretch again, and working on that 150 pt Microbiology test).
another derp

192 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:39:19pm

re: #183 freetoken

I just find it hard to accept that someone who was supposedly a communications/journalism major, and who was then awarded a BA, writes like she does.

It did take her 5 different colleges to complete the degree, but still, one would think somewhere along the line she would have discovered proper English.

I know what you mean. I know a few comm majors from my work at the paper here. I had forgotten about the five colleges part. I really wouldn’t have a problem with her if she wasn’t so disdainful of intellectuals. I mean I know my own limitations in things like foreign language and mathematics but I don’t go around berating those who are good at that. She’s proud to be ignorant and her fans love her for that.

193 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:40:07pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I know what you mean. I know a few comm majors from my work at the paper here. I had forgotten about the five colleges part. I really wouldn’t have a problem with her if she wasn’t so disdainful of intellectuals. I mean I know my own limitations in things like foreign language and mathematics but I don’t go around berating those who are good at that. She’s proud to be ignorant and her fans love her for that.

Ignorance loves company.

194 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:40:33pm

re: #189 windsagio

Fix’t.

Not exactly what I meant, but I understand your post.

195 Why I Never!  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:40:50pm

re: #191 eclectic infidel

Some humor to lighten an otherwise warm and sunny day here in Oakland (of course I am indoors again, resting my feet, eating full meals again, planning my recipes for Monday, sleeping 8 hours at a stretch again, and working on that 150 pt Microbiology test).
another derp

I liked that one!

196 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:40:59pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Ignorance loves company.

Heh what amuses me is when her fans say she has “common sense.” Drill baby drill isn’t common sense. It’s an empty slogan.

197 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:41:17pm

re: #184 Naso Tang

I am curious how and if, anything is different for gay couples versus hetero couples. Plus they’re so happy, genuinely happy and that puts a smile on my face.

198 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:41:28pm

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Ignorance loves company.

Then I know some people who will never be lonely.

199 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:42:47pm

re: #197 eclectic infidel

I am curious how and if, anything is different for gay couples versus hetero couples. Plus they’re so happy, genuinely happy and that puts a smile on my face.

I am curious too, which is why I asked the question. There must be something different to warrant a reality show.

200 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:43:57pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I really wouldn’t have a problem with her if she wasn’t so disdainful of intellectuals.

If you allow me to play the pop-psychologist here…. it seems to me she is just working out her long held frustrations with her own academic struggles. She’s exhibit A in her own (glibertarian) arguments against public education.

201 Lidane  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:45:47pm

re: #176 iceweasel

Very presidential, Ron!

It’s just more proof that he’s more progressive than Obama, don’tcha know:

[Link: www.counterpunch.org…]

202 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:47:47pm

re: #200 freetoken

If you allow me to play the pop-psychologist here… it seems to me she is just working out her long held frustrations with her own academic struggles. She’s exhibit A in her own (glibertarian) arguments against public education.

I guess so. I mean I’ve had my own academic struggles. After all, I am going to be getting my BA at 24. I just cannot stand people like Palin who use the bully pulpit to mock intellectualism. There’s nothing wrong with being smart and many in this country seem to disdain that for some reason. A professor of mind made a good point about elitism in this country. He said that we love elite athletes but intellectual elites are often disdained. He was talking about this since disdain towards intellectual elites was a huge part of the Cultural Revolution.

203 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:48:52pm

re: #199 Naso Tang

I am curious too, which is why I asked the question. There must be something different to warrant a reality show.

Two thoughts come to mind:

1. It’s produced and shown exclusively on a gay channel (I know one exists, don’t know the name offhand) for a predominately gay viewing audience.

2. What makes the show different is simply that it IS about gay couples, in which the audience is more broad based

Paperny Films created the show. I looked at their website and their shows are either documentary or reality-based shows, including a couple culinary ones (glad I investigated).

204 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:49:15pm

re: #201 Lidane

It’s just more proof that he’s more progressive than Obama, don’tcha know:

[Link: www.counterpunch.org…]

Ron Paul whose economic policies are possible some of the most reactionary in his party more progressive than Obama? The hell are they smoking over at counterpunch?

205 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:50:50pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

He was talking about this since disdain towards intellectual elites was a huge part of the Cultural Revolution.

Just off the top of my head, I suggest it has been the basis of every populist revolution, from Iran to Venezuela to Cuba to Russia, to Cambodia to China and even, dare I say, France.

206 Gus  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:51:24pm

Must. Rest. BBL

207 TedStriker  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:53:38pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

I guess so. I mean I’ve had my own academic struggles. After all, I am going to be getting my BA at 24. I just cannot stand people like Palin who use the bully pulpit to mock intellectualism. There’s nothing wrong with being smart and many in this country seem to disdain that for some reason. A professor of mind made a good point about elitism in this country. He said that we love elite athletes but intellectual elites are often disdained. He was talking about this since disdain towards intellectual elites was a huge part of the Cultural Revolution.

It’s real simple: haters gonna hate.

Doesn’t make it any less sucktastic, though…

208 Lidane  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:54:41pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

The hell are they smoking over at counterpunch?

I don’t know, but I sure as hell don’t want any. I need all my remaining brain cells.

The idea that Ron Paul is in any way, shape or form to the left of Obama made me laugh out loud. That’s pure fantasy.

209 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:54:46pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

I guess so. I mean I’ve had my own academic struggles. After all, I am going to be getting my BA at 24. I just cannot stand people like Palin who use the bully pulpit to mock intellectualism. There’s nothing wrong with being smart and many in this country seem to disdain that for some reason. A professor of mind made a good point about elitism in this country. He said that we love elite athletes but intellectual elites are often disdained. He was talking about this since disdain towards intellectual elites was a huge part of the Cultural Revolution.

And disdain towards the rich too!

210 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 2:58:18pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

It’s an interesting dichotomy - yes, we love the elite, professional athletes. But the elite, professional scholars - well, we don’t necessarily hate them (all the time anyway) but prefer to keep them in the closet until they’re needed, then they are put back.

Historians are a classic example of this. Some tv interviewer may trot one out to support his point, but that is all. Once finished, the historian gets put on the shelf, and if they have anything more to say that might contradict some cherished belief of the tv host (or show sponsor) - well, somehow that academic goes poof.

That’s why people like Barton get called back over and over to the wingnut shows. He’s only telling them what they want to hear, actual facts be damned. Barton lacks intellectual integrity but that is irrelevant to his purpose, which is reinforcing religious beliefs.

211 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:00:36pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

I guess so. I mean I’ve had my own academic struggles. After all, I am going to be getting my BA at 24. I just cannot stand people like Palin who use the bully pulpit to mock intellectualism. There’s nothing wrong with being smart and many in this country seem to disdain that for some reason. A professor of mind made a good point about elitism in this country. He said that we love elite athletes but intellectual elites are often disdained. He was talking about this since disdain towards intellectual elites was a huge part of the Cultural Revolution.

There’s nothing wrong with being smart and having a college degree (I worked long and hard to get mine), and I have no disdain for intellectual elites. I do NOT, however, like it when people assume they know better than the rest of us what’s good for us. I’m not stupid.

I also don’t like the reverse - an assumption that people who talk funny, or who don’t have a college degree, must necessarily be stupid.

212 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:01:31pm

This is making the rounds today. Real or fake?

213 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:02:32pm

re: #211 reine.de.tout

There’s nothing wrong with being smart and having a college degree (I worked long and hard to get mine), and I have no disdain for intellectual elites. I do NOT, however, like it when people assume they know better than the rest of us what’s good for us. I’m not stupid.

I also don’t like the reverse - an assumption that people who talk funny, or who don’t have a college degree, must necessarily be stupid.

You mean like the South :)

214 reine.de.tout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:02:51pm

re: #213 Walter L. Newton

You mean like the South :)

Well …
now that you mention it …

215 austin_blue  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:04:01pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

This is making the rounds today. Real or fake?

[Video]

Damn! Looked real to me. The coincidence is epic, but they all are.

Damn!

216 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:04:35pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

This is making the rounds today. Real or fake?

[Video]

Fake.

217 Varek Raith  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:04:42pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

This is making the rounds today. Real or fake?

[Video]

I’d say fake.
The camera guy would’ve gone down too if that were real.

218 freetoken  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:04:47pm

BTW, Americans by the tens of millions will sit and watch 3 hours of a football game… it’s rewarding to them (somehow, for various reasons?)

Yet try to get them to sit and watch 30 minutes of a presentation about something important to their lives, say fossil fuels and the real problems with oil… good luck with that.

Escape is always easier (it seems at the moment) than work. Always. It’s universal - I do it, you do it, we all do it. That’s why so much of our days is filled with escapism of some sort. We here in the US have just been so lucky in having such riches (material and otherwise) that we’re allowed to spend a good fraction of our time entertaining ourselves.

So, in the end, it doesn’t shock me that someone like Palin can come along and capture the imagination of so many followers, who think she actually knows about the subjects on which she speaks.

219 Achilles Tang  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:05:44pm

re: #217 Varek Raith

I’d say fake.
The camera guy would’ve gone down too if that were real.

The other guy would have stayed down, and no smoke.

220 HappyWarrior  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:05:47pm

re: #211 reine.de.tout

There’s nothing wrong with being smart and having a college degree (I worked long and hard to get mine), and I have no disdain for intellectual elites. I do NOT, however, like it when people assume they know better than the rest of us what’s good for us. I’m not stupid.

I also don’t like the reverse - an assumption that people who talk funny, or who don’t have a college degree, must necessarily be stupid.

Of course not. I am just tired of this rising counter-elitism that I see being a huge part of politics. Real elitism does exist but the elites Palin and Bachmann whine about are imaginery boogeymen for their political bases. And I agree with you about people getting crap because they have no degree. My dad doesn’t have a degree and honestly he’s one of the smarter people I know.

221 Kid A  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:11:48pm
222 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:14:56pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

This is making the rounds today. Real or fake?

[Video]

I couldn’t say for sure, but my feeling is that it is fake. It doesn’t sound quite right. I’ve had a couple nearby lightning strikes and the sound and shockwave were intense. The sound in this video sounds like regular thunder from a medium distance.

223 albusteve  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:18:09pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

This is making the rounds today. Real or fake?

[Video]

fake, the umbrella survived

224 Killgore Trout  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:20:25pm

re: #223 albusteve

fake, the umbrella survived

Ah, good point.

225 Stanley Sea  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 3:30:32pm

re: #221 Kid A

Here’s my blingee!

Image: nontroversy.gifImage: nontroversy.gif

LOL, I’m spending too much time there learning how to do it. So far pretty much fail. But practice makes perfect and all that shit!!!
I love money and the FLAG!

226 morrisab  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:06:49pm

I

227 morrisab  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:07:23pm

I meant I *heart* you guys so much. My stomach hurts from laughing so hard.

228 theheat  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:16:19pm

re: #20 Charles

I agree with her. The government has no business funding cowboy poetry.

Late in the game here today, but cowboy poetry is largely projection of conservative values and dumbed-down nostalgia. Therefore, it fits right in with the wingnuts’ overt religiousness and intellectual and verbal shorthand. You’d think a Real American™ like Sarah would know this.

You’ll find cowboy poetry at a lot of western memorabilia and high end collectible shows and auctions. It’s a staple.

I tend to buy the cool shit with my “goddamn librul artist money” I earn from, oddly, doing business with cowboys, and scram the hell out of there sometime before when the poetry and/or another great American™ institution, Cowboy Church, begins.

Like the cool shit. Not all the bullshit that goes with it.

229 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:54:11pm

re: #79 Gus 802

So we’re talking about a cowboy poetry annual even being held in a staunchly Republican Nevada town, Elko, in a staunchly Republican county, and promoted by the Elko Chamber of Commerce. And McCain/Palin won in Elko County by a landslide.

Anyone see the disconnect here?

Maybe the good citizens of Elko wouldn’t have voted McCain/Palin if they knew she hated cowboys and their poetry.

You have to ask about these things, because politicians will leave stuff out.

230 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:54:53pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

The Elko article said 7 Mil in one week.

That’s a lot, if you’re Elko.

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:56:37pm

re: #119 Max D. Reinhardt

I don’t entirely agree with this post.

“Hells no” is a pretty common expression. It’s used by most people I know, even people who hold glittering degrees from ancient, Northeastern universities say “hells no” to appear laid back and funny. That’s what Palin is trying to do too. Thats her MO, thats why she appeals to so many Middle Americans.

I don’t scorn her for this anymore than I scorn Bush 43 for his Bushisms or Obama for saying “folks.”

Now if it was ‘hell to the no’, I would consider her beneath contempt.

232 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:57:32pm

re: #135 Max D. Reinhardt

Mocking someone is different from criticizing their policies.

Since Palin doesn’t seem to have anything that could be identified as policies, I just mock her on general principles.

233 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 4:58:18pm

re: #139 Gus 802

Ha! More…

S. Res. 326:
A resolution designating the Cowboy Poetry Gathering in Elko, Nevada, as the “National Cowboy…

Passed by unanimous consent. The Republicans held the majority in the 2000 Senate under Senate Leader Trent Lott

This sounds entirely proper and American to me.

Actually, now I want to go to Elko to experience the cowboy poetry firsthand.

234 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:00:04pm

re: #171 windsagio

I was helping my friend move today and we found their old (gay) wedding certificate amongst the folderol. Apparently Multnomah county gave them a refund when the courts made it illegal again.

Tell them to hang on to that. It will be a much-cherished family heirloom someday.

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 5:02:43pm

re: #197 eclectic infidel

I am curious how and if, anything is different for gay couples versus hetero couples. Plus they’re so happy, genuinely happy and that puts a smile on my face.

The only major difference I have noted about same-sex and mixed-sex weddings is that that every gay male couple whose wedding I have ever been to has a scripture reading about David and Jonathan. I do not know if this is actually required by state or church law, but it seems to be fairly universal.

236 3CPO  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:50:54pm

In her defense, I think she meant “buxom tied.” Okay, I hope she meant “buxom tied.”

237 3CPO  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:51:25pm

Kind of a push-up bra kinda thing.

238 theheat  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:19:29pm

re: #233 SanFranciscoZionist

It’ll be like a Tea Party Lite festival. It’s Freeperville. With poetry. Trust me on this.


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