Fox Business Host Wants Obama to Be Tortured

Fox Business News torture-philes

WingnutsMay 2011 • Views: 33,684

I’ve taken a look around the right wing blogs this morning, and they seem to be approaching some kind of Singularity of Bad Craziness, spewing completely out of control. President Obama’s successful operation against Osama bin Laden has driven them even more insane.

And Fox News is leading the way as always. Here’s Fox Business’s Eric Bolling, who often hosts deranged bigot Pamela Geller and her loony conspiracy theories, reading a list of the people his viewers would like to see tortured.

Including President Obama.

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105 comments

HappyBenghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 10:59:54am

I didn't realize waterboarding was a laughing matter ha-ha. How about we waterboard Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? Oh what fun. *sarc*

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 10:59:58am

pure tabloid...in a Brooks Bros suit, of course
this shit is simply poisonous

Kragar Thu, May 5, 2011 11:00:02am

Stay classy there Fox.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:00:18am

LOL

Image: memes-great-shot-sir.jpg

BARACK THE VOTE Thu, May 5, 2011 11:00:55am

These people are disgusting.

Charles Johnson Thu, May 5, 2011 11:01:17am

Ha ha! Torture is so hilarious!

Kragar Thu, May 5, 2011 11:01:25am

To be fair, its fairly torturous to watch Fox in the first place. They just want to spread the wealth around.

AK-47% Thu, May 5, 2011 11:01:55am

We once used to resignedly accept this aspect of human nature. Now we celebrate it...

Jeff In Ohio Thu, May 5, 2011 11:02:11am

My god, that video is painful.

Walter L. Newton Thu, May 5, 2011 11:02:42am

(er... off topic)... that's not cool... ad above for "repeal Obamacare" showing President Obama as the Joker...

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:02:42am

Now, On topic, These people should be waterboarded.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:03:24am

re: #6 Charles

i was laughing in reference to the pic I posted, not in reference to those asshats.

Charles Johnson Thu, May 5, 2011 11:03:48am

re: #10 Walter L. Newton

(er... off topic)... that's not cool... ad above for "repeal Obamacare" showing President Obama as the Joker...

Right wing loons are spending big money to promote that crap. I'll go block this one. They're using a lot of different URLs, all using the joker picture. It's sickening.

Four More Tears Thu, May 5, 2011 11:04:12am

re: #4 Dreggas

LOL

Image: memes-great-shot-sir.jpg

That was full of awesome.

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:05:01am

I can't imagine how this is going to end for the far right and Fox....at some point they need to be attacked with enthusiasm, but who will do it?....I dislike the theory that the left is allowing the right to cut their own throat....time is on their side for inflicting permanent damage

allegro Thu, May 5, 2011 11:06:31am

re: #15 albusteve

I can't imagine how this is going to end for the far right and Fox...at some point they need to be attacked with enthusiasm, but who will do it?...I dislike the theory that the left is allowing the right to cut their own throat...time is on their side for inflicting permanent damage

What do you suggest might work?

Kragar Thu, May 5, 2011 11:06:35am

re: #4 Dreggas

LOL

Image: memes-great-shot-sir.jpg

Rush actually bitched that Obama wasn't wearing a suit and tie during that meeting.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 5, 2011 11:06:43am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

I didn't realize waterboarding was a laughing matter ha-ha. How about we waterboard Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? Oh what fun. *sarc*

Waterboarding has always been a laughing matter. Some folks picked up on it as this terribly fun thing they were going to defend, more as a matter of college pranksterism than because they supported torture as an interrogation technique.

This, of course, led to the hilarious proposition that waterboarding was absolutely nothing, just 'pouring water on' someone, they do it in SERE training to make the guys' coats shiny, but at the same time, it magically gets all the information you want, like THAT.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:07:00am

re: #15 albusteve

I can't imagine how this is going to end for the far right and Fox...at some point they need to be attacked with enthusiasm, but who will do it?...I dislike the theory that the left is allowing the right to cut their own throat...time is on their side for inflicting permanent damage

whenever the left, or dems, or whoever point this stuff out we're called shrill and partisan even though it's the truth. Then in the name of "fairness" the magical balance fairy comes out and the "media" finds some out there, unimportant, nut on the far left so they can say both sides do it. It's the fairness doctrine all fucked up.

jamesfirecat Thu, May 5, 2011 11:07:41am

What is this? I don't even.... (cue Angrish

Charles Johnson Thu, May 5, 2011 11:07:49am

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

Waterboarding is used in SERE training to teach operatives to resist ... you guessed it ... torture.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 5, 2011 11:08:26am

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rush actually bitched that Obama wasn't wearing a suit and tie during that meeting.

Rush is a whiner. I think a casual look is fine for watching an assassination. The SEALS weren't wearing suits and ties, now were they?

allegro Thu, May 5, 2011 11:08:43am

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

Waterboarding has always been a laughing matter. Some folks picked up on it as this terribly fun thing they were going to defend, more as a matter of college pranksterism than because they supported torture as an interrogation technique.

Just like the Abu Ghraib monstrous acts were simply "pranks."

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:08:43am

re: #16 allegro

What do you suggest might work?

I've actually thought quite a bit about it, but I'm not nearly smart enough to come up the answer....but there has to be some strategy...allowing the country to get pounded with this stuff has got to stop

Charles Johnson Thu, May 5, 2011 11:09:26am

Meanwhile, it's become another right wing article of faith that we found Osama bin Laden because we tortured people.

Never mind that there is absolutely no factual basis for this belief. There's no factual basis for almost all right wing beliefs.

Four More Tears Thu, May 5, 2011 11:10:10am

re: #22 SanFranciscoZionist

Rush is a whiner. I think a casual look is fine for watching an assassination. The SEALS weren't wearing suits and ties, now were they?

I would've been wearing pajama pants and a white t-shirt adorned with cheeto dust, so I can't really criticize the guy for that.

HappyBenghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:10:15am

re: #23 allegro

Just like the Abu Ghraib monstrous acts were simply "pranks."

Ah yes "frat boy pranks."

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 5, 2011 11:10:24am

re: #21 Charles

Waterboarding is used in SERE training to teach operatives to resist ... you guessed it ... torture.

Ayup.

However, the fact that we DID IT TO OUR OWN GUYS has been used endlessly to prove that it's NOT torture.

My question has always been: "If it's not torture, why are we doing it to them? For their health?"

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:11:00am

re: #25 Charles

well of course it vindicates them in their minds, forget the info didn't come from torture just keep saying it did and that is what will get reported without any investigation.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:11:14am

ROFL

Image: memes-i-dont-always-watch-the-news-but-when-i-do-terrorists-die.jpg

jamesfirecat Thu, May 5, 2011 11:11:25am

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

Ayup.

However, the fact that we DID IT TO OUR OWN GUYS has been used endlessly to prove that it's NOT torture.

My question has always been: "If it's not torture, why are we doing it to them? For their health?"

///So they can win bets in bars about how long they can hold their breath...

Randy W. Weeks Thu, May 5, 2011 11:11:36am

Just disgusting. WTF is *wrong* with these people?

allegro Thu, May 5, 2011 11:11:53am

re: #25 Charles

Meanwhile, it's become another right wing article of faith that we found Osama bin Laden because we tortured people.

Then why didn't we? Those guys who it's being claimed gave up the goods were interrogated enhancedly back in what, 2002 - 2003? Why wasn't that amazing info used then? Was it only because Bush just didn't spend much time thinking about him cuz he wasn't so important?

HappyBenghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:12:23am

I believe I remember reading that we convicted Axis war criminals for waterboarding after WWII. I actually wrote a paper on torture some years back arguing that we needed to improve our intelligence and not resist the temptation to torture. I even quoted John McCain before he flopped on the issue and a West Point grad. You know guys who actually understand torture rather than some armchair torture porn freaks who think real life is like a TV show.

Kragar Thu, May 5, 2011 11:12:42am

re: #25 Charles

Meanwhile, it's become another right wing article of faith that we found Osama bin Laden because we tortured people.

Never mind that there is absolutely no factual basis for this belief. There's no factual basis for almost all right wing beliefs.

Rush is also pushing the story that Obama's decision not to release more pictures means he is hiding something. He's also made a "joke" about printing shirts that say "Obama killed Osama,10 teenage Somalis, 3 of Bin Laden's Wives, and the US Economy".

Lidane Thu, May 5, 2011 11:12:59am

re: #32 LoneStarSpur

Just disgusting. WTF is *wrong* with these people?

They flipped their shit when a young black guy beat the old white guy to become POTUS, and it's been downhill ever since.

MinisterO Thu, May 5, 2011 11:13:28am

I can honestly say there's nobody I want to see tortured.

Seeing this growing national appetite for torture, it's hard to avoid feeling that our society has passed a tipping point.

shutdown Thu, May 5, 2011 11:14:02am

There is method to the WIngnut madness. It is being driven buy the GOP as a distraction, IMHO
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 5, 2011 11:15:10am

re: #37 MinisterO

I can honestly say there's nobody I want to see tortured.

Seeing this growing national appetite for torture, it's hard to avoid feeling that our society has passed a tipping point.

There are people I want to see tortured.

I am willing to give up this savage enjoyment in exchange for the pleasures of living in a civil society under the rule of law.

RadicalModerate Thu, May 5, 2011 11:16:19am

re: #13 Charles

Right wing loons are spending big money to promote that crap. I'll go block this one. They're using a lot of different URLs, all using the joker picture. It's sickening.

I decided to check out (through google cache - I'm not giving folks like those any legitimate hits) the site that put up that ad. This is the kind of racist crap I found:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:17:23am

re: #38 imp_62

really good page.

Kragar Thu, May 5, 2011 11:18:34am

Winger Madness

"She was living in a single room w/ 3 other individuals, one of them was a Paulian, and the other two, well, the other two were Conservatives. God only knows what they were up to in there, and furthermore, Susan, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them habitually posted on Wingnut Blogs..... Freepers."

shutdown Thu, May 5, 2011 11:18:57am

re: #41 Dreggas

really good page.

Thanks. I try not to create a conspiracy theory, but there is some level of loose strategic coordination, I think.

HappyBenghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:20:39am

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Winger Madness

"She was living in a single room w/ 3 other individuals, one of them was a Paulian, and the other two, well, the other two were Conservatives. God only knows what they were up to in there, and furthermore, Susan, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them habitually posted on Wingnut Blogs... Freepers."

Haha, love the Sublime version. Just put it on, thanks.

Charleston Chew Thu, May 5, 2011 11:20:41am

Truthful, unbiased data is clearly an advantage in business. So I have to wonder what kind of "business people" would actually watch the clearly propagandistic Fox Business (and to a lesser extent sources like CNBC and the Wall Street Journal).

Are the people who watch it simply too stupid to see that truth is a strategic advantage in a competitive environment?

Or is all "business" news actually "for entertainment purposes only", and the people who watch it no more "business" people than a person who goes to a gun show is a Navy SEAL?

I don't know which disturbs me more: the idea of a business fantasist who watches this boring stuff for entertainment, or someone in a prominent role in a large company too stupid to know that being fed non-stop lies is very bad for business.

Gus Thu, May 5, 2011 11:23:02am

Fox News. Always coming off as lowlife trash.

sagehen Thu, May 5, 2011 11:23:10am

re: #25 Charles

Meanwhile, it's become another right wing article of faith that we found Osama bin Laden because we tortured people.

Never mind that there is absolutely no factual basis for this belief. There's no factual basis for almost all right wing beliefs.

The right wing is also glossing over the fact that President Bush closed the CIA's Bin Laden unit in 2005, and Obama reopened it in early 2009.

Charles Johnson Thu, May 5, 2011 11:23:38am

re: #40 RadicalModerate

I decided to check out (through google cache - I'm not giving folks like those any legitimate hits) the site that put up that ad. This is the kind of racist crap I found:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Whenever you see one of these kinds of offensive ads, let me know the URL of the site it's linked to, please, so I can block it. Everyone sees different ads when they load LGF, so I'm probably not aware of it.

shutdown Thu, May 5, 2011 11:24:16am

re: #45 Charleston Chew

Truthful, unbiased data is clearly an advantage in business. So I have to wonder what kind of "business people" would actually watch the clearly propagandistic Fox Business (and to a lesser extent sources like CNBC and the Wall Street Journal).

Are the people who watch it simply too stupid to see that truth is a strategic advantage in a competitive environment?

Or is all "business" news actually "for entertainment purposes only", and the people who watch it no more "business" people than a person who goes to a gun show is a Navy SEAL?

I don't know which disturbs me more: the idea of a business fantasist who watches this boring stuff for entertainment, or someone in a prominent role in a large company too stupid to know that being fed non-stop lies is very bad for business.

FOX Business is only on trading floor TVs when one of the short-skirted reporters is on (truth, not sexism). Otherwise, it is just another right-wing propaganda broadcast, not relied on for business news of any kind.

KronoGhazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:25:07am

re: #43 imp_62

Thanks. I try not to create a conspiracy theory, but there is some level of loose strategic coordination, I think.

Loose strategic coordination driven by emotion and ideology, yes. Like some other ideologies (Taliban, AQ, etc): not directly coordinating or working together, only working toward the same goal by working against the same enemy by whatever means their meager minds can envision at the moment.

Neutral President Thu, May 5, 2011 11:25:10am

Singularity of Bad Craziness

Is that the Wingularity?

Lidane Thu, May 5, 2011 11:25:19am

re: #47 sagehen

The right wing is also glossing over the fact that President Bush closed the CIA's Bin Laden unit in 2005, and Obama reopened it in early 2009.

Of course they are. It doesn't fit the narrative of a weak, spineless Democrat who got overruled/overthrown by his own military when it came time to kill OBL.

mr.fusion Thu, May 5, 2011 11:25:30am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

I believe I remember reading that we convicted Axis war criminals for waterboarding after WWII. I actually wrote a paper on torture some years back arguing that we needed to improve our intelligence and not resist the temptation to torture. I even quoted John McCain before he flopped on the issue and a West Point grad. You know guys who actually understand torture rather than some armchair torture porn freaks who think real life is like a TV show.

This is true. I've gotten into a few online debates on the subject (not going to find the links right now) but here's what I know

Americans have prosecuted Americans for torture in the past. During the Vietnam War there was a picture published (I think in the NYT) showing an American soldier waterboarding a captive. Keep in mind, this incident was done immediately on the battlefield, presumably to get information that would save American lives as quickly as possible. Didn't matter. The soldier was dishonorably discharged. Not quite sure if he was ever prosecuted as I don't think the soldiers name was ever released.

I also recall an incident in the Philippines I believe in the '50's. Americans torturing their captives were court martialed.

I also recall punishment being doled out for torture during the Civil War and the Revolutionary War.

The thing is, America doesn't torture. We never have, and when it's been found that we are we have punished those responsible. There is precedent on this and it is peppered in throughout American history.....that all stopped with the Bush Administration

Walter L. Newton Thu, May 5, 2011 11:25:35am

re: #48 Charles

Whenever you see one of these kinds of offensive ads, let me know the URL of the site it's linked to, please, so I can block it. Everyone sees different ads when they load LGF, so I'm probably not aware of it.

Here's what I get...

[Link: visiontoamerica.org...]

Only The Lurker Knows Thu, May 5, 2011 11:26:09am

googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CIXvjt6-l8HfMxCsAhj6ATIIVdSI_PBdO0w

I dropped the http to prevent a valid link from being generated.

RadicalModerate Thu, May 5, 2011 11:26:45am

re: #48 Charles

Whenever you see one of these kinds of offensive ads, let me know the URL of the site it's linked to, please, so I can block it. Everyone sees different ads when they load LGF, so I'm probably not aware of it.

Here's the URL to the ad that's popping up for me:

[Link: visiontoamerica.org...]

Vicious Babushka Thu, May 5, 2011 11:27:59am

I use "AdBlock" add-on, although it sometimes can hard crash FireFox 4 if an ad resists being blocked.

shutdown Thu, May 5, 2011 11:28:07am

re: #50 BigPapa

Loose strategic coordination driven by emotion and ideology, yes. Like some other ideologies (Taliban, AQ, etc): not directly coordinating or working together, only working toward the same goal by working against the same enemy by whatever means their meager minds can envision at the moment.

I think GOP strategists funnel the "reporting" and the lead windbags (Rush, Beck et al) know which way to go and why without much encouragement.

Charles Johnson Thu, May 5, 2011 11:28:08am

Thanks, I already blocked that one. It takes a little while for it to get through the system.

Gus Thu, May 5, 2011 11:28:38am

Getting very slow server speed on my end. Anywho, I have to get back to work. BBL

HappyBenghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:29:47am

re: #53 mr.fusion

This is true. I've gotten into a few online debates on the subject (not going to find the links right now) but here's what I know

Americans have prosecuted Americans for torture in the past. During the Vietnam War there was a picture published (I think in the NYT) showing an American soldier waterboarding a captive. Keep in mind, this incident was done immediately on the battlefield, presumably to get information that would save American lives as quickly as possible. Didn't matter. The soldier was dishonorably discharged. Not quite sure if he was ever prosecuted as I don't think the soldiers name was ever released.

I also recall an incident in the Philippines I believe in the '50's. Americans torturing their captives were court martialed.

I also recall punishment being doled out for torture during the Civil War and the Revolutionary War.

The thing is, America doesn't torture. We never have, and when it's been found that we are we have punished those responsible. There is precedent on this and it is peppered in throughout American history...that all stopped with the Bush Administration

The words McCain used in the editorial I read were simply "We are better than that." I think that was why I was upset by McCain's transformation during the 2008 campaign. I wasn't going to vote for the man out of disagreement on domestics but I respected the man. I lost a lot of respect for McCain after he began pandering to the far right in his party.

Four More Tears Thu, May 5, 2011 11:31:25am

Heh. Damn I spend a lot of time on cell phone sites. Can you block AT&T for me? :P

RadicalModerate Thu, May 5, 2011 11:31:25am

I've got LGF whitelisted on AdBlock Plus currently, however the Ann Coulter, Goldline and NewsMax ads do get a bit tiring sometimes.

McSpiff Thu, May 5, 2011 11:31:39am

re: #57 Alouette

I use "AdBlock" add-on, although it sometimes can hard crash FireFox 4 if an ad resists being blocked.

Same, although I have exceptions for LGF and a few other websites that I (ab)use.

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:33:09am

meanwhile, the price of oil is crashing..
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Selling pressure on oil and other commodities came on several fronts this week, with investors weighing factors from the death of Osama bin Laden to the impact of higher fuel and commodity costs on the economies of consumer nations to monetary policy in major economies.

andres Thu, May 5, 2011 11:33:29am

re: #48 Charles

Whenever you see one of these kinds of offensive ads, let me know the URL of the site it's linked to, please, so I can block it. Everyone sees different ads when they load LGF, so I'm probably not aware of it.

Should we also send you the Goldline and/or Ann Coulter ones?

Charleston Chew Thu, May 5, 2011 11:34:30am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

The words McCain used in the editorial I read were simply "We are better than that." I think that was why I was upset by McCain's transformation during the 2008 campaign. I wasn't going to vote for the man out of disagreement on domestics but I respected the man. I lost a lot of respect for McCain after he began pandering to the far right in his party.

It was then that I had to start refering to McCain by his version number, as in:

"I voted for McCain v2000, but I voted against McCain v2008. That version has some serious bugs."

Randall Gross Thu, May 5, 2011 11:35:00am

Wow. I skimmed the headline earlier and thought it was more of the Osama's body discussion -- then I re-read and saw they are talking about torturing the President. ...

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:35:41am

re: #65 albusteve

good maybe now they can lower the freaking gas prices.

McSpiff Thu, May 5, 2011 11:36:12am

re: #66 andres

Should we also send you the Goldline and/or Ann Coulter ones?

I kind of like the idea of Goldline and Coulter paying Charles. His call of course.

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:36:23am

re: #68 Thanos

Wow. I skimmed the headline earlier and thought it was more of the Osama's body discussion -- then I re-read and saw they are talking about torturing the President. ...

next THEY will seize his children to make him talk

Randall Gross Thu, May 5, 2011 11:36:42am

re: #67 Charleston Chew

I voted for McCain v2008.11, but wouldn't vote for any version beyond that.

Targetpractice Thu, May 5, 2011 11:37:07am

re: #65 albusteve

meanwhile, the price of oil is crashing..
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Selling pressure on oil and other commodities came on several fronts this week, with investors weighing factors from the death of Osama bin Laden to the impact of higher fuel and commodity costs on the economies of consumer nations to monetary policy in major economies.

If it keeps falling, that's another arrow out of the GOP's quiver, going into the election season.

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:37:15am

re: #69 Dreggas

good maybe now they can lower the freaking gas prices.

fortunately we are well below the average in ABQ.....3.80 at highest

Charles Johnson Thu, May 5, 2011 11:37:46am

re: #66 andres

Should we also send you the Goldline and/or Ann Coulter ones?

Sure, let me know the site URLs for any ad that seems wrong. I can't guarantee I'll block all of them, though. I'm trying to only block the ones that are blatantly offensive.

jea62 Thu, May 5, 2011 11:37:58am

It's good to know we have such upstanding, moral people as representatives of the Fox Broadcasting Network...

KronoGhazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:38:02am

re: #58 imp_62

I think GOP strategists funnel the "reporting" and the lead windbags (Rush, Beck et al) know which way to go and why without much encouragement.

Absolutely, there's little doubt.

makeitstopghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:38:30am

re: #69 Dreggas

good maybe now they can lower the freaking gas prices.

One can only hope. I cringe when I think about how much I spent on gas going to Boston last weekend.

Ming Thu, May 5, 2011 11:39:48am

I don't usually like to mention the race card, but it may be relevant in the case of torture. I wonder how enthusiastic Fox News would be about torture, if we were talking about domestic terrorists, like people who bomb abortion clinics, or the white supremacist(s) who placed a bomb at a recent Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane, Washington.

According to the theory of Fox News, that torture is effective, then it would be effective to round up people who could provide information about abortion clinic bombers and white supremacists. Then, the police, or the military, could torture those people.

Except I'd be surprised if Fox News, and the right wing in general, would be in favor of torturing, say, members of the Aryan Brotherhood. Could it be because they're white and Christian?

Remember how the right wing reacted to intrusive TSA airport searches. Sure, they want to be tough in the war on terror. But they don't want the TSA to pat down people who look like them.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:41:27am

re: #74 albusteve

fortunately we are well below the average in ABQ...3.80 at highest

4.23 is about the average for the cheap stuff here where I live in So Cal.

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:43:02am

re: #80 Dreggas

4.23 is about the average for the cheap stuff here where I live in So Cal.

I think the bigger markets are getting gouged....somebody is making a ton of money, all on spec

jaunte Thu, May 5, 2011 11:43:12am

re: #63 RadicalModerate

I've got LGF whitelisted on AdBlock Plus currently, however the Ann Coulter, Goldline and NewsMax ads do get a bit tiring sometimes.

This is a good time to recommend the clean, relaxing, ad-free LGF subscription!

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:43:42am

GM posts big profit.

HappyBenghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:44:52am

re: #79 Ming

I don't usually like to mention the race card, but it may be relevant in the case of torture. I wonder how enthusiastic Fox News would be about torture, if we were talking about domestic terrorists, like people who bomb abortion clinics, or the white supremacist(s) who placed a bomb at a recent Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane, Washington.

According to the theory of Fox News, that torture is effective, then it would be effective to round up people who could provide information about abortion clinic bombers and white supremacists. Then, the police, or the military, could torture those people.

Except I'd be surprised if Fox News, and the right wing in general, would be in favor of torturing, say, members of the Aryan Brotherhood. Could it be because they're white and Christian?

Remember how the right wing reacted to intrusive TSA airport searches. Sure, they want to be tough in the war on terror. But they don't want the TSA to pat down people who look like them.

It's a valid point honestly. I personally find it pathetic that a bunch of supposed journalists think waterboarding is some laughing matter. It's juvenile as hell.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:45:28am

re: #81 albusteve

I think the bigger markets are getting gouged...somebody is making a ton of money, all on spec

Of course we are, everyone is. The reality is oil has to be refined into gasoline, there's lots of oil that these companies have that hasn't been refined yet. They'd rather jack up the prices on gas and get rich along with the speculators rather than fix their rfineries to up output, build new refineries or basically do much of anything. Meanwhile they claim this would all be fixed if we just allowed them to drill more when they aren't even drilling on the land they have contracts for!

KronoGhazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:45:40am

Wife: Bush skips 9/11 NY event to keep low profile

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Thu, May 5, 2011 11:46:22am

re: #86 BigPapa

Wife: Bush skips 9/11 NY event to keep low profile

really? According to "unnamed sources" poor lil Georgie got his fee-fee's hurt.

HappyBenghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:46:35am

re: #86 BigPapa

Wife: Bush skips 9/11 NY event to keep low profile

I can respect that. Wouldn't have minded if he had accepted either.

makeitstopghazi Thu, May 5, 2011 11:46:39am

Man, they're all coming unglued today.

David Koch: I Don't Think Obama 'Contributed Much At All' To Bin Laden Killing

They really can't stand that Obama got this done.

Targetpractice Thu, May 5, 2011 11:47:04am

re: #79 Ming

I don't usually like to mention the race card, but it may be relevant in the case of torture. I wonder how enthusiastic Fox News would be about torture, if we were talking about domestic terrorists, like people who bomb abortion clinics, or the white supremacist(s) who placed a bomb at a recent Martin Luther King Day parade in Spokane, Washington.

According to the theory of Fox News, that torture is effective, then it would be effective to round up people who could provide information about abortion clinic bombers and white supremacists. Then, the police, or the military, could torture those people.

Except I'd be surprised if Fox News, and the right wing in general, would be in favor of torturing, say, members of the Aryan Brotherhood. Could it be because they're white and Christian?

Remember how the right wing reacted to intrusive TSA airport searches. Sure, they want to be tough in the war on terror. But they don't want the TSA to pat down people who look like them.

They're perfectly okay with torturing "others," people they've been convinced are not in any way like them. Now if you start strapping a few militia boys or domestic terrorists to a board and "simulating drowning," you'd quickly find yourself up to your eyeballs in accusations of being Nazis and America becoming a fascist state.

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:48:05am

re: #85 Dreggas

Of course we are, everyone is. The reality is oil has to be refined into gasoline, there's lots of oil that these companies have that hasn't been refined yet. They'd rather jack up the prices on gas and get rich along with the speculators rather than fix their rfineries to up output, build new refineries or basically do much of anything. Meanwhile they claim this would all be fixed if we just allowed them to drill more when they aren't even drilling on the land they have contracts for!

I just hate being at the mercy of shadowy business....my last tank of gass lasted me 2 months!
I don't get out much...

albusteve Thu, May 5, 2011 11:49:19am

re: #89 makeitstop

Man, they're all coming unglued today.

David Koch: I Don't Think Obama 'Contributed Much At All' To Bin Laden Killing

They really can't stand that Obama got this done.

he contributed exactly as much as any CinC would have....presidents make choices, not plans

sagehen Thu, May 5, 2011 11:58:25am

re: #92 albusteve

he contributed exactly as much as any CinC would have...presidents make choices, not plans

He contributed a good deal *more* than many other CinC's would have, more than the previous CinC did.

One of his first decisions/orders when he took office was to reopen the CIA's Bin Laden unit, tell them hunting Bin Laden is a high priority. That's why the intelligence people had enough staff and budget to hunt and follow, why the satellites were pointed at the right places and there were intercepts of the right phone calls and the right keywords searched for to know who to send even more people to follow.

This was a choice George W Bush did not make.

ghazidor Thu, May 5, 2011 11:59:24am

Hehehehe damn torture is just so funny, it is even better than the old three stooges "head in a vise" gag!

We should ask Fox for a new 'reality' show that shows Fox's hosts and celebrities being waterboarded. Whoever lasts the longest would get money donated to the charity of their choice to make the show more...uhh...humane.

In the event of a tie they could move on to ripping out fingernails with pliers, or perhaps red hot pokers applied to sensitive parts of the contestants anatomy. At the very least they would have a ready made and guaranteed audience from the fan base of WWE, right?

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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, May 5, 2011 12:01:41pm

Eric was holding this today during the president's visit at the memorial ...
Eric wants you to call him

Maybe we should call him to give our opinion on who should be really waterboarded.

thatthatisis Thu, May 5, 2011 12:03:32pm

OT, but we all know how President Obama struggles in trying to give up smoking. I wonder if the poor man grabbed a pack or two this past weekend. I sure wouldn't blame him if he did.

lawhawk Thu, May 5, 2011 12:05:08pm

re: #57 Alouette

Ah, that would explain why I get hard crashes with FF that go unexplained (though FF4 sometimes croaks that there's a script that is being difficult).

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 5, 2011 12:09:28pm

re: #79 Ming

Remember how the right wing reacted to intrusive TSA airport searches. Sure, they want to be tough in the war on terror. But they don't want the TSA to pat down people who look like them.

And they harped endlessly about how you could just 'tell' that people like them weren't a threat.

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 5, 2011 12:11:01pm

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist

And they harped endlessly about how you could just 'tell' that people like them weren't a threat.

They also harped on how they wanted to us El Al's profiling system, totally unaware of how intrusive THAT is, even if you don't 'look' like a terrorist.

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nines09 Thu, May 5, 2011 12:14:19pm

That's what folks tune into Fox Business for. News and opinion from crazed self absorbed flaming asshole about torture and how to hate,followed by adverts for buying gold and seeds. That is a business show if I ever saw one. Fox. One name. One goal. Mass insanity. FOAD.

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mr.fusion Thu, May 5, 2011 12:23:50pm

re: #67 Charleston Chew

It was then that I had to start refering to McCain by his version number, as in:

"I voted for McCain v2000, but I voted against McCain v2008. That version has some serious bugs."

Ironically McCain is the one who changed my mind on this...I used to be full on "do what ya gotta do" until I read where McCain said "It's not about them, it's about us." He really nailed it with that quote

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Romantic Heretic Thu, May 5, 2011 12:36:48pm

God, what a bunch of sick fucks.

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wvng Thu, May 5, 2011 12:42:50pm

I can't imagine how the Armed Forces allow this shit to be broadcast to the troops? Doesn't this, and Limbaugh every single day, suggest that seditious actions are in order?

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blueraven Thu, May 5, 2011 1:10:04pm

re: #65 albusteve

meanwhile, the price of oil is crashing..
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Selling pressure on oil and other commodities came on several fronts this week, with investors weighing factors from the death of Osama bin Laden to the impact of higher fuel and commodity costs on the economies of consumer nations to monetary policy in major economies.

Under $100 per barrel for oil. Haven't see that for a while. Silver really took a hit...gold less so, but still. Looks like maybe the commodity bubble has been punctured.

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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 5, 2011 1:13:55pm

I agree with the sentiment expressed by Crowley, that Bolling does not have any intelligence that could save american lives.

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