Wingnut Blog Fail of the Week: Obama Took Down the Ground Zero Flag

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One problem with living on the west coast is that an east coast wingnut nontroversy has time to start spreading on Twitter, get picked up by dozens of right wing blogs, and be exposed as a ridiculous fraudulent non-story before I even wake up.

The life cycles of these outrageous outrages are starting to be measured in minutes, but the Conveyor Belt of Bad Craziness just keeps on rollin’.

Today’s example: Jake Tapper of ABC News tweeted yesterday, at about 6:30pm (around sunset):

One minute to air and they decided to take the flag down from the live shot!

He included this photo of cranes taking down the large flag from one of the structures at Ground Zero in Manhattan:

Despite the fact that Tapper’s tweet happened several hours after President Obama’s appearance, when Tapper was setting up for one of his ABC News live shots, the wingnut echo chamber leaped to the conclusion that it was before — and that Obama had ordered the flag taken down because that’s just how much he hates America. So much, that he would remove the US flag from Ground Zero. The bastard.

Doug Ross hyperventilated: WTF at WTC? Obama Has American Flag Removed From Ground Zero Site Moments Before Photo Shoot!

Later, he added: “[Updated: or Perhaps Tapper Just Confused All of Us]”. Because that’s how tricksy the media are — they wait several hours to confuse right wing bloggers with innocuous tweets, knowing that those bloggers have no journalistic standards and won’t even look at timestamps if the story can be used to bash President Obama. Oh, wait.

Michelle Malkin put up a post titled, “Just wondering: Why was American flag removed from Ground Zero yesterday?” and then apologized, to her credit: No, Obama didn’t remove American flag from Ground Zero.

It also spread to Drudge Report, and to a host of C-list hacks like Weasel Zippers, who posted: Wow: Team Obama Removes American Flag From Ground Zero Moments Before Live Shoot….

That’s a Google cache link, because Mr. Zippers then deleted his embarrassing post with no word of explanation: Error 404 - Not Found.

And of course, there are many photos of Obama at the Ground Zero ceremony, with that flag prominently featured right behind him.

Earlier today, Jake Tapper tweeted again:

Bloggers who created a lie about the flag based on my innocuous tweet: please feel free to unfollow. don’t want my facts to become your lies

The really unusual part of this idiotic fake outrage is that these bloggers bothered to correct and delete their posts. But this is definitely the wingnuts’ Fail of the Week, because none of these super-patriotic patriots apparently considered the fact that US flags are supposed to be taken down at sunset.

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260 comments

ElCapitanAmerica Fri, May 6, 2011 1:16:05pm

It's classic.

Great post btw, love the way you summarize the nuttiness.

HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 1:16:51pm

Anything to slander the president. Jerks.

Obdicut Fri, May 6, 2011 1:20:34pm

Their sole source of information was a single tweet.

What weirdos. They're on a hair trigger.

reine.de.tout Fri, May 6, 2011 1:21:03pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Anything to slander the president. Jerks.

They've been anticipating and hoping since before the election, to find some evidence of the President's true colors, that is, lack of patriotism, hatred for this country and the military, etc etc etc.

Even so, it's amazing to me that anyone thought this was the least bit plausible, that the President would have the flag removed before he would consent to give his speech.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, May 6, 2011 1:23:41pm

re: #4 reine.de.tout

Was he wearing his FLAG PIN!?!?

aagcobb Fri, May 6, 2011 1:23:43pm

re: #4 reine.de.tout

That is just the tip of the iceberg of the implausible things they believe about the President.

Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 1:23:53pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Their sole source of information was a single tweet.

What weirdos. They're on a hair trigger.

They're trying to regain the momentum lost due to the one-two punch of revealing Obama's birth certificate and the SEALs signing Osama's death certificate in the same week.

reine.de.tout Fri, May 6, 2011 1:25:32pm

May 10th, Frontline will air "Kill/Capture" - they've been working on this story for six months, they say. The timing is very interesting. This should be interesting to watch, especially given the events of the past few days.

Behind the strike that killed Osama bin Laden last week was one of the U.S. military's best kept secrets: a covert campaign that officials have credited with taking out thousands of Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters. A six-month investigation by FRONTLINE has gone inside the military's "kill/capture" operations to discover new evidence of the program's impact -- and its costs. Under the command of Gen. David Petraeus, U.S. forces are carrying out an unprecedented number of targeted raids using highly classified intelligence, aerial drones and Special Operations Forces. But is the tactic working? In interviews with Gen. Petraeus, his senior commanders and in rare footage with Taliban leaders and fighters, FRONTLINE producers Dan Edge (The Wounded Platoon) and Stephen Grey (Extraordinary Rendition) explore the logic behind the kill/capture policy and its consequences. Traveling into the lawless border regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan, FRONTLINE tells the story from the perspective of Afghan civilians, U.S. troops and the Taliban militants they are pursuing. After almost 10 years of fighting, this film examines the question: Will kill/capture help end the war in Afghanistan?

The timing is very interesting. This should be interesting to watch, especially given the events of the past few days.

lawhawk Fri, May 6, 2011 1:25:52pm

According to the US Flag Code, the flag is generally required to be taken down at sunset, unless the flag is properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

4 USC Sec. 4 and following.

Since the flag was in the middle of the construction zone, and isn't properly illuminated in that location, striking the flag was appropriate.

Tapper was merely lamenting that his background of choice was no longer going to be there (but the construction of the Memorial was still there).

Talking Point Detective Fri, May 6, 2011 1:26:43pm

It's getting so that when you read "outrage" from "conservatives" on the Interwebs these days, there's about a 95% probability that it is fake.

I know that BDS was pretty prevalent a few years ago, but I find it hard to believe that was a dominant a driver as ODS is now. The basic partisan logic is the same, but Republicans just have greater ideological discipline. They are a focused group, and they are clear that nothing is of the same relative importance as attacking Obama.

It's really, really depressing.

shutdown Fri, May 6, 2011 1:27:00pm

re: #1 ElCapitanAmerica

It's classic.

Great post btw, love the way you summarize the nuttiness.

The word "nuttiness" makes me want a Nutella sandwich.

dragonfire1981 Fri, May 6, 2011 1:27:51pm

I am surprised no one has suggested he want to put up a Muslim flag instead.

reine.de.tout Fri, May 6, 2011 1:28:08pm

re: #8 reine.de.tout

And I know that comment is OT, apologies folks.

sagehen Fri, May 6, 2011 1:28:59pm

re: #9 lawhawk

According to the US Flag Code, the flag is generally required to be taken down at sunset, unless the flag is properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

4 USC Sec. 4 and following.

Since the flag was in the middle of the construction zone, and isn't properly illuminated in that location, striking the flag was appropriate..

BUT HOW CAN THAT BE?!?!

"and the rockets' red glare
the bombs bursting in air
gave proof through the night
that the flag was still there...."

Stanghazi Fri, May 6, 2011 1:29:18pm

Jake Tapper tweeted this

jaketapper Jake Tapper

Bloggers who created a lie about the flag based on my innocuous tweet: please feel free to unfollow. don't want my facts to become your lies

Bulworth Fri, May 6, 2011 1:29:23pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If he wasn't, then the whole Killing OBL thing wasn't worth anything.

jaunte Fri, May 6, 2011 1:30:09pm

re: #13 reine.de.tout

I am not outraged!

Bulworth Fri, May 6, 2011 1:30:42pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

Jake Tapper tweeted this

jaketapper Jake Tapper

Bloggers who created a lie about the flag based on my innocuous tweet: please feel free to unfollow. don't want my facts to become your lies

Of course it wasn't plain ole vanilla "bloggers". It was bloggers of a certain persuasion.

jaunte Fri, May 6, 2011 1:31:40pm

Still laughing at "Mr. Zippers."

Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate Fri, May 6, 2011 1:31:48pm

Ha. This was a comment from that cached article. Poor Mike is trying to stop the hyperventilating by imploring them not to stoop to the level of the left.

Mike says:
ok guys, i hate obama, but this sounds like just a right talking point, it was obama or his team that took the flag down? haha no way. theres no caption, theres a picture of the flag coming down, this is stuff the left does to make the right look stupid. please dont stoop to that level. obama probably could have stopped it, but he might not even have KNOWN they were doing that. come on people

They keep going so he tries again....

this is partly whats wrong with us and the media, we see a picture and a caption, and we believe it and start arguing. get the truth guys, it is what makes the right better than the left. we usually dint stoop to this level.

And again...

@ weaselzippers, i love you guys i come here all the time. but can you take this post down? this is like some leftist propoganda they would use to demonize us republicans. this is not true, can you please remove it? for your own validity.

reine.de.tout Fri, May 6, 2011 1:31:52pm

re: #17 jaunte

I am not outraged!

*whew*
Thank goodness! I just came across that, and immediately wanted to share it.

iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 1:34:20pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Their sole source of information was a single tweet.

What weirdos. They're on a hair trigger.

I went and read some of the comments on Malkin's site, just to re-calibrate my ODS meter.

Basically variations on "Yeah, but that's the kind of thing Obama WOULD do!"

Which is really the right-wing news cycle in a nutshell. Even when lies are exposed they "fit" with the overall pattern of lying.

lawhawk Fri, May 6, 2011 1:34:33pm

re: #20 Cankles McCellulite

First thing would have been to check the time stamp on Tapper's tweet. That should have been the giveaway that he wasn't referring to Obama and the President's speech at Ground Zero, but to Tapper's own reporting around 6pm.

ElCapitanAmerica Fri, May 6, 2011 1:35:11pm

Jake Tapper
@jaketapper

Was about to note military band playing "YMCA" but then wondered how that would be twisted into blogs about "Obama creating all-gay army"

iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 1:36:07pm

re: #24 ElCapitanAmerica

Jake Tapper
@jaketapper

Was about to note military band playing "YMCA" but then wondered how that would be twisted into blogs about "Obama creating all-gay army"

Their parade-ground routines are FABULOUS.

lawhawk Fri, May 6, 2011 1:37:42pm

re: #24 ElCapitanAmerica

Next thing we'll hear is that he was playing In the Navy when visiting the SEALs:

Where can you find pleasure
Search the world for treasure
Learn science technology
Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
On the land or on the sea
Where can you learn to fly
Play in sports and skin dive
Study oceanography
Sign up for the big band
Or sit in the grandstand
When your team and others meet

In the navy

Youtube Video

thatthatisis Fri, May 6, 2011 1:38:57pm

A little OT, but has anyone heard what the deal was with the 500 euro's in OBL's clothes when he was captured? Not local currency, but euro's. Very peculiar.

General Nimrod Bodfish Fri, May 6, 2011 1:40:22pm

re: #24 ElCapitanAmerica

Jake Tapper
@jaketapper

Was about to note military band playing "YMCA" but then wondered how that would be twisted into blogs about "Obama creating all-gay army"

LOL. With how twisted and deranged the RW bloggers are, I can honestly seeing that happening.

Talking Point Detective Fri, May 6, 2011 1:40:43pm

re: #10 Talking Point Detective

To go a bit further.

I can understand partisan loyalty causing someone to feel "outrage" about something that, if they were asked to be really accountable, they would admit really isn't "outrageous." That is how I viewed much of the BDS going around. Hatred of Bush, loyalty towards Dems, drove people to be falsely "outraged."

But it wasn't generally a conscious thing. It was loyalty operating at an unconscious level - where starting ideology unconsciously affected how people reasoned. This is human nature, and a well-identified phenomenon in psychology and political science.

But a large part of what I'm seeing now about Republican "outrage," strikes me as deliberate fraud. For example - sure, some folks honestly questioned whether or not Obama is an American citizen, but at a certain level there were people promoting birtherism who were well aware just how ludicrous the issue is. I think a lot of what we're seeing is not people who actually believe this kind of bullshit, but who are cynically trying to falsify "outrages." It's hard for me to fully control for my own biases - but I really think there is a different quality to what we're seeing coming from Republican loyaltists.

TedStriker Fri, May 6, 2011 1:40:57pm

You know, for all of the charges and insinuations that President Obama's not a "real 'Murican", all the shit the wingnuts are throwing (and keep throwing) at him makes me question their patriotism and loyalty to the country.

Bunch of conspiratorial, dishonest shitbirds...

Four More Tears Fri, May 6, 2011 1:41:10pm

SFZ bait: Shit MY Students Write

Whether it’s taking a walk outside, breathing the air, or eating some corn, the environment is almost everywhere you look.

The rebel and onion armies showed grose negligence by having many of their battles right inside national parks, like Gettysburg.

Its not really plagiarism as it was exactly what I was going to write anyway.

Varek Raith Fri, May 6, 2011 1:41:10pm

Attention wingnuts!
Obama got Osama.
Deal with it.

ElCapitanAmerica Fri, May 6, 2011 1:41:22pm

Watching the president speak to the troops, really good stuff!

HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 1:41:38pm

You just know they're pissed at the reception Obama and Biden got at Fort Campbell.

What, me worry? Fri, May 6, 2011 1:41:53pm

re: #17 jaunte

I am not outraged!

I am outraged at your un-outrage!

elizajane Fri, May 6, 2011 1:44:03pm

re: #6 aagcobb

That is just the tip of the iceberg of the implausible things they believe about the President.

When you've reached a certain level of deranged, blind hatred, things like logic and plausibility cease to matter AT ALL. That is the state of a certain vocal portion of wingnuttery at this point.

jaunte Fri, May 6, 2011 1:44:10pm

re: #35 marjoriemoon

Fair exchange is shortchanged by the unchanged Obama-deranged.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 1:44:12pm

re: #10 Talking Point Detective

It's getting so that when you read "outrage" from "conservatives" on the Interwebs these days, there's about a 95% probability that it is fake.

I know that BDS was pretty prevalent a few years ago, but I find it hard to believe that was a dominant a driver as ODS is now. The basic partisan logic is the same, but Republicans just have greater ideological discipline. They are a focused group, and they are clear that nothing is of the same relative importance as attacking Obama.

It's really, really depressing.

Partisan attacks are to be expected, I guess. It's the frequency, irrelevant quality, and ephemeral nature of these that's starting to get worrisome. These bloggers really are spending each and every day looking for something Obama did that they can leap on, and some of them are quite influential people.

It's pretty bizarre.

Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Fri, May 6, 2011 1:45:23pm

re: #27 thatthatisis

A little OT, but has anyone heard what the deal was with the 500 euro's in OBL's clothes when he was captured? Not local currency, but euro's. Very peculiar.

That with the phone numbers says, that he was always ready to go to ground at a moments notice. In other words, the US was smart not to let anyone else know about the assault. Because if OBL had gotten any hint, he'd have been out the door within 5 minutes.

Quite simply, just another indication of how well the operation was planned and executed.

What, me worry? Fri, May 6, 2011 1:45:32pm

re: #37 jaunte

Fair exchange is shortchanged by the unchanged Obama-deranged.

Dude. Set that to music and I guarantee it goes to #1.

HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 1:46:10pm

This really is a good speech by the president.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 1:46:21pm

re: #39 bloodstar

That with the phone numbers says, that he was always ready to go to ground at a moments notice. In other words, the US was smart not to let anyone else know about the assault. Because if OBL had gotten any hint, he'd have been out the door within 5 minutes.

Quite simply, just another indication of how well the operation was planned and executed.

I'm sure that they'll take euros most places, but how far will 500 euros really get you, these days?

elizajane Fri, May 6, 2011 1:47:13pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

Partisan attacks are to be expected, I guess. It's the frequency, irrelevant quality, and ephemeral nature of these that's starting to get worrisome. These bloggers really are spending each and every day looking for something Obama did that they can leap on, and some of them are quite influential people.

It's pretty bizarre.

The folks at HotAir have to find (or invent) something to fill their on-going "Obamateurism of the Day" slot.

Look how much easier it is for Charles to fill his "Wingnut Fail of the Day." Sometimes the competition is even quite tough for that prize!

Four More Tears Fri, May 6, 2011 1:48:04pm

re: #43 elizajane

The folks at HotAir have to find (or invent) something to fill their on-going "Obamateurism of the Day" slot.

Look how much easier it is for Charles to fill his "Wingnut Fail of the Day." Sometimes the competition is even quite tough for that prize!

They think they have to be number 1 in everything.

Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Fri, May 6, 2011 1:48:46pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure that they'll take euros most places, but how far will 500 euros really get you, these days?

Probably to the nearest safe house. OBL didn't need to go far to be out of reach of any assault. just a couple of miles (if that much). So really, he didn't need much money, just enough to make sure if he got any advance warning, he could stay somewhere for a night or two while getting people together to move him to the next safe location.

Varek Raith Fri, May 6, 2011 1:49:07pm

Senate Republicans Introduce Bill To Abolish The EPA

elizajane Fri, May 6, 2011 1:50:21pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

Senate Republicans Introduce Bill To Abolish The EPA

Oh great. Now that will solve the deficit problem.
///

ElCapitanAmerica Fri, May 6, 2011 1:51:08pm

Screw clean air and clean water whiners!
#WINNING

HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 1:51:27pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

Senate Republicans Introduce Bill To Abolish The EPA

That sound you hear is Nixon and Teddy Roosevelt rolling in their graves.

Bulworth Fri, May 6, 2011 1:51:43pm

re: #47 elizajane

Oh great. Now that will solve the deficit problem.
///

A little more disturbing this was initiated by "Senate" Republicans. But I guess since Senate Republicans are Very Serious this must also be a Very Serious Proposal.

Walter L. Newton Fri, May 6, 2011 1:52:11pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure that they'll take euros most places, but how far will 500 euros really get you, these days?

Grocery Prices in Paris, France

Cheese 1.95 Emmental - slices for sandwiches
Ham (jambon)- Superior 2.94 6 slices for sandwiches
Butter 1.76 250grams - more than enough for a week stay
Bottled Water (1.5l) .50 Volvic. Other brands as cheap as .35
Apples 1.0 2 large apples
Pasta Sauce - Bottle 1.80 Barilla - much better than sauce sold in the States
Pasta .80 Comparable to lb dry
Coca Cola Light - 50cl .80 Comparable to a 24ounce bottle.
Coca Cola Light (4 pack) bottles 3.0
Baguette .80
Croissant .90
Pastry 1.40 e.g.,Napoleon or mille-feuilles
Pain au Chocolat 1 i.e., chocolate filled croissant
Milk (1liter) .90
Pizza 5 Small fresh pizza w/ toppings to heat at home
Bottle of Wine 6 You can purchase very good bottle of French wine for 6-7euros.
Rotisserie Chicken 10 A delectable meal for 2-4.

iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 1:53:50pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure that they'll take euros most places, but how far will 500 euros really get you, these days?

A week in a holiday cottage in one of the remoter parts of Tuscany, which is all you really need if you've attracted attention from the right people (see Foucault's Pendulum).

Charleston Chew Fri, May 6, 2011 1:53:56pm

none of these super-patriotic patriots apparently considered the fact that US flags are supposed to be taken down at sunset.

Wait til they finds out this is called "Retreat" in the army. I'm sure there's a way they can link that to the President's "cowardice", too.

FYI: the bugle call for Retreat.

ElCapitanAmerica Fri, May 6, 2011 1:55:57pm

Man Drudge is really going nuts this week, check out his headline about the president's visit to Fort Campbell;

SPIKING THE FOOTBALL

*sigh*

Charleston Chew Fri, May 6, 2011 1:55:59pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

Senate Republicans Introduce Bill To Abolish The EPA

Little do they realize, they have to live on this planet, too. Or is there a special rich people planet that they're all gonna jet off to at some point?

Mentis Fugit Fri, May 6, 2011 1:56:10pm

re: #25 iossarian

Their parade-ground routines are FABULOUS.

How can you say that and not post this?

Youtube Video

HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 1:56:47pm

re: #54 ElCapitanAmerica

Man Drudge is really going nuts this week, check out his headline about the president's visit to Fort Campbell;

SPIKING THE FOOTBALL

*sigh*

Silly Obama, he's supposed to bash the troops so our fantasies of him can be proven true.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 1:59:20pm

re: #20 Cankles McCellulite

this is the internet in a nutshell

tribalism + unlimited access to connectivity = MADNESS

(it also allows artists to make a nice living, there's upsides)

Varek Raith Fri, May 6, 2011 1:59:48pm

re: #58 WindUpBird

this is the internet in a nutshell

tribalism + unlimited access to connectivity = MADNESS

(it also allows artists to make a nice living, there's upsides)

MADNESS?!
...
Oh, nevermind.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 1:59:52pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

Senate Republicans Introduce Bill To Abolish The EPA

Senate Republicans pass house bill to feed toxic waste to schoolchildren

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:00:07pm

re: #59 Varek Raith

MADNESS?!
...
Oh, nevermind.

AH CROOSADE FOR WHAT!

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:00:50pm

re: #52 iossarian

A week in a holiday cottage in one of the remoter parts of Tuscany, which is all you really need if you've attracted attention from the right people (see Foucault's Pendulum).

that's one of my favorite books of all time

I have my own Plan ^__^

sagehen Fri, May 6, 2011 2:01:37pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure that they'll take euros most places, but how far will 500 euros really get you, these days?

A lot further than 500 dollars, in places where they hate America.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:01:37pm

re: #52 iossarian

the trick about a Plan is, don't get Diabolics into it, get nerds into it

nerds don't eventually {redacted for spoilers}

wvng Fri, May 6, 2011 2:02:20pm

Even after all this time I still can't comprehend this kind of behavior. President Obama is singularly the least outrageous political leader I've ever seen. He is a good family man (actually is), he treats everyone around him with courtesy that many do not deserve, his policies are relentlessly pragmatic (what is the closest I can get to a real solution based on political realities).

Some, even much, of this would have happened in the right wing echo chamber if Hillary had been elected, but Hillary would have been more genuinely polarizing than Obama.

How this excellent man can get up every day with the endless parade of this vile horseshit assaulting him is beyond me. Today it's "crush your son's testicles in a vise" Yoo saying he was afraid to catch Bin Laden alive cause then he would have had to interrogate him. And CNN treated Yoo as if he had something to say anyone would want to hear. [Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Archangelus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:02:32pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure that they'll take euros most places, but how far will 500 euros really get you, these days?

Depending on where it is you're going, 500 could be quite a lot. I remember traveling with my friends ages ago to India and Asia, and you could do real well on the equivalent of a handful of Dollars or Euros a day in some areas.

And yup, the more we learn, the more the operation seems to have been well planned and carried out. The raving lunatics need to get a life and STHU as far as I'm concerned; Hell, even Al Qaeda (what little is left of it) confirmed the death, along with the typical assurance of "impending vengeance". What does it say when the enemy gets it better than these guys do?

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:02:50pm

re: #40 marjoriemoon

Dude. Set that to music and I guarantee it goes to #1.

Holy amazing grace about face total erase these [...] off the face of the place

/Busta

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:03:37pm

re: #65 wvng

I comprehend it just fine, it happened during Clinton, and obama is black, so add that. The internet is mature now. Add that!

really simple calculus, really.

Archangelus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:04:20pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

Senate Republicans Introduce Bill To Abolish The EPA

In a word: Oy.

Kragar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:04:44pm

I love how their defense consists of "Well, we keep expecting him to screw up, so we're completely justified in overblown unjustified attacks."

HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 2:05:28pm

I used to think that there was a limit for the Obama is always wrong nuts but I've realized this week in fact, no there's not. A speech congratulating the troops and praising the sacrifices they and their families make is "spiking the football." And you know the usual suspects will make a huge deal since he said the word "I" in the speech so clearly he's an egomaniac!

iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 2:05:56pm

re: #60 WindUpBird

Senate Republicans pass house bill to feed toxic waste to schoolchildren

Senate Republicans draft bill compelling the blind to perform degrading "jiggle dances" on street corners in return for food scraps.

CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:05:59pm

re: #12 dragonfire1981

I am surprised no one has suggested he want to put up a Muslim flag instead.

At leas one commenter suggested exactly that. I don't remember which wingnut blog it was as they all sound the same.

sagehen Fri, May 6, 2011 2:07:09pm

re: #66 Archangelus

Depending on where it is you're going, 500 could be quite a lot. I remember traveling with my friends ages ago to India and Asia, and you could do real well on the equivalent of a handful of Dollars or Euros a day in some areas.

And yup, the more we learn, the more the operation seems to have been well planned and carried out. The raving lunatics need to get a life and STHU as far as I'm concerned; Hell, even Al Qaeda (what little is left of it) confirmed the death, along with the typical assurance of "impending vengeance". What does it say when the enemy gets it better than these guys do?

Even if they'll never say it out loud, I'll bet even Al Qaeda can respect that we left 22 people alive in that compound; it's going to make it just that much harder to paint us as monsters.

Kragar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:07:21pm

re: #73 CuriousLurker

At leas one commenter suggested exactly that. I don't remember which wingnut blog it was as they all sound the same.

How do we know its not a Muslim flag posing as an American flag? You know how they lie.

Cap'n Magic Fri, May 6, 2011 2:07:39pm

Aaargh... People who aren't aware of their Commanding Self and so conditioned in their thinking that when reality smashes their narrative, they fail so miserably at damage control and try to bury their misplaced projections.

CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:08:33pm

re: #75 kragar (proud to be kafir)

How do we know its not a Muslim flag posing as an American flag? You know how they lie.

OMG, a taqiyya flag!!11!!

iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 2:08:36pm

re: #75 kragar (proud to be kafir)

How do we know its not a Muslim flag posing as an American flag? You know how they lie.

LOL they'll be counting the stripes now.

"Wait, I got to 14 that time."

Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:08:40pm

Da Derp Dee Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb!

Fail of the week for sure!

Charles Johnson Fri, May 6, 2011 2:09:05pm

It's interesting -- there are some leftists who are losing it over bin Laden too. Michael Moore and Glenn Greenwald are both yelling very loudly about "extra-judicial assassination."

The difference, however, is that this viewpoint is not being widely accepted. There's a lot of pushback, and Greenwald and Moore are getting hammered on Twitter by liberals.

iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 2:09:32pm

re: #79 Gus 802

Da Derp Dee Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb!

Fail of the week for sure!

Is there a specific tune that you put that to? I've been trying to figure it out from the word rhythm...

BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:09:43pm

re: #70 kragar (proud to be kafir)

I love how their defense consists of "Well, we keep expecting him to screw up, so we're completely justified in overblown unjustified attacks."

Yeah, everytime one of their nontroversies is exposed for a lie, their defense is, "Why is this so believeable? Because OBAMA BLARGH UNAMERICAN BLARGH".

No shame. None.

Walter L. Newton Fri, May 6, 2011 2:09:55pm

re: #79 Gus 802

Da Derp Dee Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb!

Fail of the week for sure!

You still here?

Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:10:31pm

re: #46 Varek Raith

Senate Republicans Introduce Bill To Abolish The EPA

The Republican Party: Taking America Back...to the 18th Century.

Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:12:09pm

re: #83 Walter L. Newton

You still here?

Yep. Got extended till Monday and finishing up some projects.

Bulworth Fri, May 6, 2011 2:12:16pm

re: #55 Charleston Chew

Little do they realize, they have to live on this planet, too. Or is there a special rich people planet that they're all gonna jet off to at some point?

Well, they are planning on being Raptured very soon. The rest of us can live on this rotted planet while they play harps and shoot all the deer in heaven.

Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:12:49pm

re: #81 iossarian

Is there a specific tune that you put that to? I've been trying to figure it out from the word rhythm...

"Whipping Post" by the Allman Brothers?

Walter L. Newton Fri, May 6, 2011 2:13:16pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Yep. Got extended till Monday and finishing up some projects.

Good luck. Catch you on the flip side. Work beckons.

Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:13:33pm

re: #88 Walter L. Newton

Good luck. Catch you on the flip side. Work beckons.

Thanks.

Kragar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:13:36pm

re: #80 Charles

It's interesting -- there are some leftists who are losing it over bin Laden too. Michael Moore and Glenn Greenwald are both yelling very loudly about "extra-judicial assassination."

The difference, however, is that this viewpoint is not being widely accepted. There's a lot of pushback, and Greenwald and Moore are getting hammered on Twitter by liberals.

Napolitano said the same thing.

watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, May 6, 2011 2:14:01pm

OT: Pretty damn cool, I have been contacted by the national bone marrow donor registry about a year and half after joining. Seems I might just be a good match for someone, somewhere, and they need me to immediately go in for a detailed physical (they are paying of course).

Yeah I have heard firsthand all about how having needles stuck into your hip bones is excruciatingly painful for a couple of days afterwords. How your back aches for weeks, blah, blah, blah...

Considering that I'm really not doing much of anything right now except some painting and patching on what was formerly my parents condo it seems like the perfect time to suffer some discomfort. It isn't like I'm going to miss work and get laid off...

Still don't know if I will have to travel to donate or even if I will be donating at all for sure, but if so they pay all the expenses, so worst case maybe I'll even manage to get a free sightseeing trip out of the deal.

But what really counts is that I could possibly be saving someones life, after watching Mom and Dad both pass from illnesses I was powerless to do a damn thing about I gotta admit that that is pretty appealing.

Just in case anyone here is at all interested in joining the registry or even just wants more info... (BTW to register you just do some cheek swabs they send you and return them postage prepaid).

[Link: www.marrow.org...]

/This has been a kinda euphoric public service announcement by ausador.

Stanghazi Fri, May 6, 2011 2:14:24pm

re: #80 Charles

It's interesting -- there are some leftists who are losing it over bin Laden too. Michael Moore and Glenn Greenwald are both yelling very loudly about "extra-judicial assassination."

The difference, however, is that this viewpoint is not being widely accepted. There's a lot of pushback, and Greenwald and Moore are getting hammered on Twitter by liberals.

Hammered is the word! #TeamFuckYeah

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:15:59pm

re: #72 iossarian

Senate Republicans draft bill compelling the blind to perform degrading "jiggle dances" on street corners in return for food scraps.

hahahahaha man that's the best terrible image of the day

CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:16:15pm

Okay, I'm gonna go OT a little early as this is almost sure to cause more more 'sploding heads:

Jews and Muslims united for sharia?

We're a bit late to this one, but Ron Kampeas of JTA has a fascinating recent piece on fears that anti-sharia initiatives brewing around the country could also threaten observance of traditional Jewish law, or halachah.

You don't hear much about halachah, or rabbinical courts known as beit din, even though both have been a feature of observant American Jewish communities for years.

But some Jewish groups are now lobbying against anti-sharia bills that have been drafted -- possibly as a way to preempt constitutional challenges -- to bar any and all foreign or religious law in U.S. courts, not just sharia:

[...]

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:16:16pm

re: #92 Stanley Sea

Hammered is the word! #TeamFuckYeah

Michael Moore is just such a butthole, le sigh

Charles Johnson Fri, May 6, 2011 2:16:29pm

re: #90 kragar (proud to be kafir)

Napolitano said the same thing.

Yeah, Napolitano's so far out there on the far right he starts to wrap around a little.

Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:17:00pm

I'm still trying to fathom why anyone would be bent out of shape about bin Laden getting "taken out". I could understand if they were in al-Qaeda or maybe some super-pacifist.

freetoken Fri, May 6, 2011 2:17:12pm

Mullah Ham _{(oh, the joys of English...)} warns of apostasy:

Ken Ham: Christian Colleges Compromising Creationism, Bible's Authority

Answers in Genesis President/CEO Ken Ham has new research showing that Christian institutions of higher learning have gone too far gone down the pathway of secularism and they need to be either totally overhauled or scrapped in favor of new biblically-sound schools.

[...]

Hall warned that if Christian professors teach youth that it is OK to change the Bible to accommodate evolution or an earth that has existed for millions of years, then students get the idea that it is also OK to undermine the authority of the Bible.

Without the strong teaching of Genesis, it won't be long before Christian students and faculty will be changing the Bible to accommodate other beliefs such as homosexuality and abortion, Ham argued. The young earth creationist asserted that the issue is really about preserving the Bible's authority as 100 percent true. "Until you get back to that issue (the Bible's authority), then you'll never be able to shut the door [on those issues]."

[...]

When asked, given the data shared in Already Compromised, how long it will be before new conservative Christian colleges must be established to replace "compromised" institutions, Ham responded, "I think it needs to happen right now."

If existing Christian colleges are serious about reform, they need to institute top-down change, he said. "Let the presidents clean house," he proclaimed. Ham also suggested, "The boards need to have people prepared to take a strong stand."

[...]

Teh ghey is coming! Teh ghey is coming!

And it's all because those evil professors are teaching that the Earth is older that 6000 years.

Time for a purge!

Stanghazi Fri, May 6, 2011 2:18:37pm

re: #91 ausador

I signed up prob about the same time (did you find out about it on Kos maybe? I can't remember.)

GOOD JOB!

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iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 2:18:44pm

re: #80 Charles

It's interesting -- there are some leftists who are losing it over bin Laden too. Michael Moore and Glenn Greenwald are both yelling very loudly about "extra-judicial assassination."

The difference, however, is that this viewpoint is not being widely accepted. There's a lot of pushback, and Greenwald and Moore are getting hammered on Twitter by liberals.

I think this Greenwald piece makes a lot of sense:

[Link: www.salon.com...]

I personally have conflicted feelings about the OBL killing. It would certainly help a lot if there was a clear picture of what actually happened, but I guess that is very unlikely to happen.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:19:01pm

re: #98 freetoken

Mullah Ham _{(oh, the joys of English...)} warns of apostasy:

Ken Ham: Christian Colleges Compromising Creationism, Bible's Authority

Teh ghey is coming! Teh ghey is coming!

And it's all because those evil professors are teaching that the Earth is older that 6000 years.

Time for a purge!

Surely we don't want a college education to teach people to question authority, especially Biblical authority. And what's this critical reasoning things the liberal elites keep blabbering about? Sounds like sumpin commie./

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Kragar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:19:16pm

re: #96 Charles

Yeah, Napolitano's so far out there on the far right he starts to wrap around a little.

Napolitano: bin Laden was "killed on the illegal whim of the president."

Moments later, he added, "Osama bin Laden is dead. And the president seems to think he has the right to kill whomever he wants so long as the person is perceived as a monster and the public supports it."

And yet the judge also questioned whether officials are "telling us the truth or pulling a fast one to save Obama's lousy presidency." Later in the broadcast, Napolitano asked a guest, "Do you believe he's dead, or do you want some more evidence: a photograph, a testimony of an eyewitness? Something other than the words of a president whose words we have doubted before?"

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:19:18pm

Everyone remember the fake MLK quote that was going around facebook after Bin Laden's death? Here are the new fake quotes going around facebook:

"Dear FB Friends: You can't find out who saw your profile. You won't see what you'll look like in the future. You won't know what that man saw when he walked in on his daughter. There are no free iPads. And you can't see the video of Osama's death... Not on Facebook. Stop clicking the spam links and exposing yourself and friends to virus risks." - Martin Luther King, Jr

Dear FB Friends: In 30 years your grandkids will see that picture of you at the cantina in Tijuana and ask awkward questions. That guy from your Freshman year of college who just sent you a friend request? - Yes, he will post wildly inappropriate photos and swear randomly on your wall. Your boss knows you just friended the CEO at your biggest competitor. And you really should not have forgotten that your mom is a Facebook friend. - Gandhi

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:19:35pm

re: #97 Gus 802

I'm still trying to fathom why anyone would be bent out of shape about bin Laden getting "taken out". I could understand if they were in al-Qaeda or maybe some super-pacifist.

It's easy to understand: The Right's bent over the "weak foreign policy/limp-wristed apologizer" meme went up in smoke the moment OBL's cranium was ventilated, while the Left's bent over what they view as Obama signing onto the whole "War on Terror" mindset when they viewed him as being the guy who'd bring it all to an end once in office.

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iossarian Fri, May 6, 2011 2:20:45pm

OK. Outta here. Great weekends all round!

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freetoken Fri, May 6, 2011 2:21:17pm

re: #101 iceweasel

Surely we don't want a college education to teach people to question authority, especially Biblical authority. And what's this critical reasoning things the liberal elites keep blabbering about? Sounds like sumpin commie./

From that story:

The data shows just how little "inspired of God" means with three follow-up questions. Respondents were asked if they believed in the inspiration, the inerrancy and the infallibility of the Scriptures. While nearly all respondents expressed their belief in the inspiration of the Scriptures (98.1 percent), less than three quarters of respondents (74 percent) affirmed their belief in the inerrancy, or total accuracy, of the Bible. Nearly 19 percent of respondents rejected the belief that the Scriptures are infallible or incapable of failing.

"We're well down the road" of secularism, Ham told The Christian Post.

OMG!!! Almost 1 in 5 respondents believe the Bible could contain errors!!

We must purge the evil amongst us!!

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Kragar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:22:26pm

And from the same article as in 102;

Alex Jones is a Texas-based talk radio host who also runs various websites and whose YouTube channel claims more than 24 million views. He is sometimes called a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

After the president's announcement of bin Laden's death, Jones told his listeners in one broadcast, "My friends, this is a complete and total hoax."

"Where is the body?" Jones asked in another show. "My White House sources nine years ago, on record, confirmed that he had been killed and was frozen on ice."

Thats right. Bush killed Osama 9 years ago so that a Democrat could unveil his death as a distraction from the Birth Certificate issue.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:22:57pm

re: #106 freetoken

From that story:

OMG!!! Almost 1 in 5 respondents believe the Bible could contain errors!!

Now, that can't be right. Everyone knows that all three creation stories in the Book of Genesis are simulataneously true, and that Cain had loads of people to go stay with in Nod. /

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TedStriker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:23:00pm

re: #80 Charles

It's interesting -- there are some leftists who are losing it over bin Laden too. Michael Moore and Glenn Greenwald are both yelling very loudly about "extra-judicial assassination."

The difference, however, is that this viewpoint is not being widely accepted. There's a lot of pushback, and Greenwald and Moore are getting hammered on Twitter by liberals.

Good...the ultra-leftists like Moore and Greenwald deserve to get shellacked on OBL becoming an ex-terrorist, just as the wingnuts should be.

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justaminute Fri, May 6, 2011 2:23:22pm

President Obama just wanted to take down the American flag but couldn't find a "Don't Tread On Me" flag that was large enough. It would have looked so great with President Obama arriving at the ceremony in an Apache Helicopter too. Democrats don't know anything about staging to get the old red blood stirred up.///////

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Charles Johnson Fri, May 6, 2011 2:23:47pm

re: #104 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's easy to understand: The Right's bent over the "weak foreign policy/limp-wristed apologizer" meme went up in smoke the moment OBL's cranium was ventilated, while the Left's bent over what they view as Obama signing onto the whole "War on Terror" mindset when they viewed him as being the guy who'd bring it all to an end once in office.

Yeah, but Obama actually made the promise way back during his campaign that he would not hesitate to go into Pakistan to get Osama bin Laden. He got a lot of heat for saying this, but he kept his promise.

I don't know why anyone on the left would be surprised. Obama was totally up front about it.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:23:49pm

re: #96 Charles

Yeah, Napolitano's so far out there on the far right he starts to wrap around a little.

Napolitano = Fox News version of IT nerd that wears snap brim fedoras, reads Ayn Rand, plays D&D and collects replica swords

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:23:56pm

re: #107 kragar (proud to be kafir)

And from the same article as in 102;

Thats right. Bush killed Osama 9 years ago so that a Democrat could unveil his death as a distraction from the Birth Certificate issue.

Yeah, Bush bravely killed Obama 9 years ago, then jammed him in a freezer and conveniently forgot about him until after he was out of office. Makes absolute perfect sense if you believe that Bush liked seeing his approval ratings lower than a snake's balls.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:24:00pm

Let me see. There's this trrorist group called al-Qaeda. The leader of that terrorist group was Usama bin Laden. This same man was the mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks that resulted in the murder of approximately 3,000 people at the WTC and the Pentagon. He was also responsible for the murder of countless other around the world alongside al-Qaeda including many in Islamic ME countries. He was a very, very, bad man. Let "unchecked" this bad man could have killed many, many more. The opportunity finally presented itself to rid the world of this threat to mankind and it was taken thanks the efforts of many including the president.

Enjoy the fishies bin Laden.

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Killgore Trout Fri, May 6, 2011 2:24:18pm

re: #80 Charles

It's interesting -- there are some leftists who are losing it over bin Laden too. Michael Moore and Glenn Greenwald are both yelling very loudly about "extra-judicial assassination."

The difference, however, is that this viewpoint is not being widely accepted. There's a lot of pushback, and Greenwald and Moore are getting hammered on Twitter by liberals.

That's encouraging but I think it has a lot more to do with a Dem in the White House than a general indicator of mental health on the part of progressives. If Bush had done this they'd be freaking out.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:24:26pm

re: #111 Charles

Yeah, but Obama actually made the promise way back during his campaign that he would not hesitate to go into Pakistan to get Osama bin Laden. He got a lot of heat for saying this, but he kept his promise.

I don't know why anyone on the left would be surprised. Obama was totally up front about it.

Because Moore is just another look-at-me opportunist who lost what pull he had once a Democrat won the presidency

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:25:20pm

re: #111 Charles

Yeah, but Obama actually made the promise way back during his campaign that he would not hesitate to go into Pakistan to get Osama bin Laden. He got a lot of heat for saying this, but he kept his promise.

I don't know why anyone on the left would be surprised. Obama was totally up front about it.

Because a lot of folks, particularly those on the extremes, saw Obama as an "empty suit" in which to instill their hopes and wishes. Now that he's actually in office and none of what they imagined is coming true, they're hacked that "He's not the guy I voted for!"

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:25:29pm

re: #113 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, Bush bravely killed Obama 9 years ago, then jammed him in a freezer and conveniently forgot about him until after he was out of office. Makes absolute perfect sense if you believe that Bush liked seeing his approval ratings lower than a snake's balls.

And...this is important...when they decided it was time to "kill" bin laden, they decided to do it in the most embarrassing possible way for Pakistan. They could have faked some middle-of-nowhere raid, giving the Pakistanis political cover, but instead they decided to have it within walking distance of their military training center.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:25:50pm

re: #111 Charles

I don't know why anyone on the left would be surprised. Obama was totally up front about it.

This could probably be said of every outrageous outrage on the left in re: Obama.

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Kragar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:26:44pm

re: #118 EmmmieG

And...this is important...when they decided it was time to "kill" bin laden, they decided to do it in the most embarrassing possible way for Pakistan. They could have faked some middle-of-nowhere raid, giving the Pakistanis political cover, but instead they decided to have it within walking distance of their military training center.

WHAT WAS OBAMA THINKING?!
///

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:26:57pm

re: #118 EmmmieG

They could have faked some middle-of-nowhere raid, giving the Pakistanis political cover, but instead they decided to have it within walking distance of their military training center.

Is that really true though? I thought they never left the compound, even to take out trash.

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:27:09pm

re: #118 EmmmieG

And...this is important...when they decided it was time to "kill" bin laden, they decided to do it in the most embarrassing possible way for Pakistan. They could have faked some middle-of-nowhere raid, giving the Pakistanis political cover, but instead they decided to have it within walking distance of their military training center.

Which is only further proof that Obama's totally inexperienced when it comes to foreign policy, as any true master of the art would have politely asked Pakistan's permission and even offered them the opportunity to lead the raid, so as to cement international ties.

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HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 2:27:53pm

The homosexuality paranoia that many on the religious right I have to admit really amuses me. My favorite was the idiotic judicial committee head in Montana who claimed that gays were trying to "recruit" heterosexuals. He had no "proof" but he "knew." I mean shit there have been people I've found out were gay and I would have had no idea if they hadn't said anything. I swear we're going to look back on the homophobic bullshit that the religious right fought like hell to have in our society and laugh if we're not already laughing.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:28:00pm

re: #94 CuriousLurker

Okay, I'm gonna go OT a little early as this is almost sure to cause more more 'sploding heads:

Given that half the crap being preached about creeping sharia right now could have been ripped straight from the anti-Semitic playbook--and in many cases, was, that's hardly suprising.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:28:31pm

There was nothing to indicate that once bin Laden was captured that he could not have been reformed through several years of art rehab and 3 years in a German prison.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:28:48pm

re: #121 iceweasel

Is that really true though? I thought they never left the compound, even to take out trash.

My point here was that if they were going to fake a killing, why put it where it would embarrass the Pakistanis? Unless, of course, that was the aim.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:29:41pm

re: #126 EmmmieG

My point here was that if they were going to fake a killing, why put it where it would embarrass the Pakistanis? Unless, of course, that was the aim.

Sorry for my reading incomprehension, I'm in a post-dinner daze.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:30:08pm

re: #127 iceweasel

Sorry for my reading incomprehension, I'm in a post-dinner daze.

Hey. Did you read my email?

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Killgore Trout Fri, May 6, 2011 2:30:32pm

re: #100 iossarian

I think this Greenwald piece makes a lot of sense:

[Link: www.salon.com...]

I personally have conflicted feelings about the OBL killing. It would certainly help a lot if there was a clear picture of what actually happened, but I guess that is very unlikely to happen.

Well, kind of. I think it's a pretty safe guess what happened. It was a kill mission and the targets were probably not given the opportunity to surrender. Most Libs will look the other way and not fret too much about it. Rendition and torture still occurs today but it's under the radar and nobody seems too worked up about it. I do think it's a well played strategy on Obama's part. Bush was more open about this stuff and it didn't go over very well.

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Charles Johnson Fri, May 6, 2011 2:30:47pm

Here's what I wrote back when Obama made that promise: Obama Promises to Invade Pakistan, Edwards Promises to Get Tough With Saudi Arabia.

The anti-war presidential candidate who vows to pull out of Iraq immediately, then begin unconditional talks with Iran, says if he’s elected he’ll invade Pakistan: Obama vows to hunt down terrorists.

WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists even without local permission if warranted — an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.

Oh yeah. That’ll work.

Hey, Charles of 2008: put down the Koolaid pitcher!

But seriously, I couldn't have been more wrong. Obama came through.

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:30:49pm

Tapper's still an overly sensitive douche.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:30:51pm

re: #128 Gus 802

Hey. Did you read my email?

I think so. sent you a couple just a little while ago. ;)

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 6, 2011 2:30:55pm

re: #117 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Because a lot of folks, particularly those on the extremes, saw Obama as an "empty suit" in which to instill their hopes and wishes. Now that he's actually in office and none of what they imagined is coming true, they're hacked that "He's not the guy I voted for!"

None, or very little of what I imagined has come true, and I honestly couldn't be happier to have been wrong.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:31:13pm

re: #102 kragar (proud to be kafir)

Napolitano: bin Laden was "killed on the illegal whim of the president."

Something other than the words of a president whose words we have doubted before?"

And why did we doubt his words? BECAUSE I TOLD YOU TO!!!

Doesn't that prove he's unreliable?

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:31:25pm

re: #132 iceweasel

I think so. sent you a couple just a little while ago. ;)

OK. Cool. Just read your last two.

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TedStriker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:31:43pm

re: #102 kragar (proud to be kafir)

Napolitano: bin Laden was "killed on the illegal whim of the president."

Listen here, "Judge"...if President Obama can have OBL taken out on "an illegal whim" for whatever reason he wants (nevermind the fact that the bastard was directly or indirectly responsible for terrorist attacks that killed thousands of people around the world), couldn't he do the same to you, Beck, and all of the other wingnuts with conspiratorial tendencies?

You'd think that Obama was a Mafia kingpin or something, instead of the fucking POTUS, CinC and all that...

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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, May 6, 2011 2:31:53pm

re: #30 talon_262

You know, for all of the charges and insinuations that President Obama's not a "real 'Murican", all the shit the wingnuts are throwing (and keep throwing) at him makes me question their patriotism and loyalty to the country.

Bunch of conspiratorial, dishonest shitbirds...

These people see it as an unpatriotic act to miss a chance to criticize Obama about anything and everything he does or does not do.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:32:34pm

Fox News. Could you imagine if someone there had said that bin Laden was "killed on the illegal whim of the president" while Bush was in the White House?

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Obdicut Fri, May 6, 2011 2:32:38pm

re: #130 Charles

The fact that you were wrong means nobody can ever trust you on anything again, because nobody else is every wrong. And the fact that you learned and realized your error and are admitting it means you're a hypocrite for reasons that are rather unclear.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:32:47pm

re: #103 EmmmieG

Everyone remember the fake MLK quote that was going around facebook after Bin Laden's death? Here are the new fake quotes going around facebook:

"Dear FB Friends: You can't find out who saw your profile. You won't see what you'll look like in the future. You won't know what that man saw when he walked in on his daughter. There are no free iPads. And you can't see the video of Osama's death... Not on Facebook. Stop clicking the spam links and exposing yourself and friends to virus risks." - Martin Luther King, Jr

Dear FB Friends: In 30 years your grandkids will see that picture of you at the cantina in Tijuana and ask awkward questions. That guy from your Freshman year of college who just sent you a friend request? - Yes, he will post wildly inappropriate photos and swear randomly on your wall. Your boss knows you just friended the CEO at your biggest competitor. And you really should not have forgotten that your mom is a Facebook friend. - Gandhi

A very dear friend posted that quote. I love her. I just sighed, and said that my regrets about Bin Laden all have to do with what he did with his life, rather than the circumstances of his death.

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TedStriker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:33:02pm

re: #116 WindUpBird

Because Moore is just another look-at-me opportunist who lost what pull he had once a Democrat won the presidency

Moore is an egotistical, pompous blowhard, IMO

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:33:05pm

re: #130 Charles

Here's what I wrote back when Obama made that promise: Obama Promises to Invade Pakistan, Edwards Promises to Get Tough With Saudi Arabia.

Hey, Charles of 2008: put down the Koolaid pitcher!

But seriously, I couldn't have been more wrong. Obama came through.

Well, it wasn't exactly an invasion - just a finite mission to kill one evil motherfucker. And yes, Obama did come through.

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Killgore Trout Fri, May 6, 2011 2:33:13pm

re: #130 Charles

But seriously, I couldn't have been more wrong. Obama came through.

Personally, I'm very happen to have been wrong.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:33:43pm

re: #138 Gus 802

Fox News. Could you imagine if someone there had said that bin Laden was "killed on the illegal whim of the president" while Bush was in the White House?

Greenwald would have said exactly the same stuff. He's a douche but a consistent douche. He's being at least as big a pain in the ass as he was to Bush.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:34:34pm

re: #107 kragar (proud to be kafir)

And from the same article as in 102;

Thats right. Bush killed Osama 9 years ago so that a Democrat could unveil his death as a distraction from the Birth Certificate issue.

Bush was always thoughty like that.

I'm trying to think of a good spoof of 'Soul on Ice', but it's not working.

"Osama On Ice" just sounds like a really bad thing to take your kid to.

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dr. luba Fri, May 6, 2011 2:34:44pm

re: #80 Charles

It's interesting -- there are some leftists who are losing it over bin Laden too. Michael Moore and Glenn Greenwald are both yelling very loudly about "extra-judicial assassination."

The difference, however, is that this viewpoint is not being widely accepted. There's a lot of pushback, and Greenwald and Moore are getting hammered on Twitter by liberals.

On the left, the crazies are the outliers, tolerated but ignored.

On the right, they're the base.

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Winny Spencer Fri, May 6, 2011 2:34:45pm

re: #138 Gus 802

Fox News. Could you imagine if someone there had said that bin Laden was "killed on the illegal whim of the president" while Bush was in the White House?

Nope. Could you imagine a truther like Napolitano hosting a show on Fox News during Bush's presidency?

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:35:03pm

re: #143 Killgore Trout

Personally, I'm very happen to have been wrong.

See! It's contagious. My fault. ;)

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:35:18pm

re: #147 Winny Spencer

Nope. Could you imagine a truther like Napolitano hosting a show on Fox News during Bush's presidency?

That too.

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HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 2:35:22pm

Didn't Moore criticize Bush for ignoring Bin Laden to focus on Iraq?

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Charles Johnson Fri, May 6, 2011 2:35:37pm

I note, however, that Obama also promised to immediately pull out of Iraq and start unconditional talks with Iran.

And those promises he didn't keep. Which is also good.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:35:43pm

re: #111 Charles

Yeah, but Obama actually made the promise way back during his campaign that he would not hesitate to go into Pakistan to get Osama bin Laden. He got a lot of heat for saying this, but he kept his promise.

I don't know why anyone on the left would be surprised. Obama was totally up front about it.

Selective hearing.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:36:20pm

re: #114 Gus 802

Let me see. There's this trrorist group called al-Qaeda. The leader of that terrorist group was Usama bin Laden. This same man was the mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks that resulted in the murder of approximately 3,000 people at the WTC and the Pentagon. He was also responsible for the murder of countless other around the world alongside al-Qaeda including many in Islamic ME countries. He was a very, very, bad man. Let "unchecked" this bad man could have killed many, many more. The opportunity finally presented itself to rid the world of this threat to mankind and it was taken thanks the efforts of many including the president.

Enjoy the fishies bin Laden.

He's dead. That's 'enjoy bin Laden, fishies'.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:36:46pm

re: #117 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Because a lot of folks, particularly those on the extremes, saw Obama as an "empty suit" in which to instill their hopes and wishes. Now that he's actually in office and none of what they imagined is coming true, they're hacked that "He's not the guy I voted for!"

"Built him a soul", I think the phrase goes.

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CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:36:49pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

That's encouraging but I think it has a lot more to do with a Dem in the White House than a general indicator of mental health on the part of progressives. If Bush had done this they'd be freaking out.

I don't buy that. I can't speak for all lefties, but I don't have a problem with it even if it was a "kill order" or whatever they're calling it. I don't like a lot of stuff Bush did, but if he'd issued the same order when he was in the White House I wouldn't have had a problem with it then either.

There's no question that OBL was guilty. He admitted it. He reveled in it. He wasn't an American citizen—if he had been, that would be the only way I'd have a problem with it. If he'd been caught & tried in Saudi (as if that would happen), the trial would've been short and he would've been taken out to a public square and summarily beheaded.

He got what he had coming as far as I'm concerned.

^{//See? I'm not always warm & fuzzy.}

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 6, 2011 2:37:23pm

re: #153 SanFranciscoZionist

SFZ, why do you hate fish?

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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, May 6, 2011 2:37:45pm

re: #99 Stanley Sea

I signed up prob about the same time (did you find out about it on Kos maybe? I can't remember.)

GOOD JOB!

I was still taking care of Mom and Dad fulltime then, I got caught by a late night PSA commercial and went to the website. Which by the way is...

[Link: www.marrow.org...]

/Shameless plug ;)

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:37:51pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

SFZ, why do you hate fish?

Don't you mean sea kittens?

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:38:22pm

My crazy aunt just admitted on facebook that she doesn't believe we landed on the moon.

Sigh.

Wouldn't the Soviets have figured out that we were lying? There's just too many ways for them to detect a falsification, and they would have outed us in a heartbeat.

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HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 2:38:25pm

OT but I had a weird dream this morning. I fell off this ship and suddenly this ray pressed itself against my back and started preventing me from being able to move. Suddenly my back gave out and I drowned, then I woke up. Just weird stuff. Then again my dream's are usually weird.

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Charles Johnson Fri, May 6, 2011 2:38:27pm

re: #139 Obdicut

The fact that you were wrong means nobody can ever trust you on anything again, because nobody else is every wrong. And the fact that you learned and realized your error and are admitting it means you're a hypocrite for reasons that are rather unclear.

/

I know. Sometimes that realization robs me of the will to live. But then I take a shower and feel better.

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TedStriker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:38:28pm

re: #111 Charles

Yeah, but Obama actually made the promise way back during his campaign that he would not hesitate to go into Pakistan to get Osama bin Laden. He got a lot of heat for saying this, but he kept his promise.

I don't know why anyone on the left would be surprised. Obama was totally up front about it.

I'll bet one of the (minor) reason that the ultra-left and the ultra-right are so tore up with the butthurt over OBL getting his is that Obama actually carried out that campaign promise, after being lambasted and excoriated for it.

They can fucking get over it...as they say down here in the South, OBL needed killing.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:39:36pm

re: #158 Gus 802

Don't you mean sea kittens?

/

sea kitteh was the original name I tried to register here with but I just missed the window.
Next time I caught it I was so excited I couldnt remember the name and just went with iceweasel from the Matt Groening quote.

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:39:42pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Didn't Moore criticize Bush for ignoring Bin Laden to focus on Iraq?

There are a lot of differences between President Bush and President Obama, but one of the most striking ones to surface in the past few days is the fact that, under President Obama, Osama bin Laden is dead. Reconstituting the bin Laden search team (canceled by Bush in 2005) in January 2009 was a pretty good idea in retrospect.

Michael Moore's biggest problem is he's overweight and not very attractive, so people like to ignore him, dismiss him, or write him off as a crazy commie.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:39:56pm

re: #155 CuriousLurker

I don't buy that. I can't speak for all lefties, but I don't have a problem with it even if it was a "kill order" or whatever they're calling it. I don't like a lot of stuff Bush did, but if he'd issued the same order when he was in the White House I wouldn't have had a problem with it then either.

There's no question that OBL was guilty. He admitted it. He reveled in it. He wasn't an American citizen—if he had been, that would be the only way I'd have a problem with it. If he'd been caught & tried in Saudi (as if that would happen), the trial would've been short and he would've been taken out to a public square and summarily beheaded.

He got what he had coming as far as I'm concerned.

^{//See? I'm not always warm & fuzzy.}

So what you're saying is, you don't think the Saudi art therapy plan would have worked?

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:40:17pm

Pfft. Napolitano and his illegal bullshit. Let me tell you what I'd do if someone killed a member of my family. Perhaps I shouldn't here. I'm really surprised that a "Napolitano" would even say such a thing.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:40:34pm

lol just called into a podcast show to geek out about the band Savatage

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:40:39pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

SFZ, why do you hate fish?

I don't think fish care about the moral qualities of their food. Do YOU check to make sure a fish you eat wasn't a serial killer?

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TedStriker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:40:53pm

re: #151 Charles

I note, however, that Obama also promised to immediately pull out of Iraq and start unconditional talks with Iran.

And those promises he didn't keep. Which is also good.

While some of the stuff President Obama promised during the campaign didn't make a lot of sense (like Iran), some did in hindsight (OBL)...say what you will, but the man has grown a lot in office and stepped up to the plate to (mostly) deliver on his promises.

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CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:41:08pm

re: #165 SanFranciscoZionist

So what you're saying is, you don't think the Saudi art therapy plan would have worked?

//

LOL, I'm guessing prolly not.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 2:41:39pm

re: #139 Obdicut

The fact that you were wrong means nobody can ever trust you on anything again, because nobody else is every wrong. And the fact that you learned and realized your error and are admitting it means you're a hypocrite for reasons that are rather unclear.

/

It's like hating Pantera because they were once a glam hair band :D

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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:42:10pm

re: #167 WindUpBird

lol just called into a podcast show to geek out about the band Savatage

They're from Florida. Seen them many times years ago.

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:42:30pm

re: #151 Charles

I note, however, that Obama also promised to immediately pull out of Iraq and start unconditional talks with Iran.

And those promises he didn't keep. Which is also good.

Speaking of which, I still have this on my HDD, which I'm sure many in the White House would really like to forget:

Image: Obama_Canvass_For_Change.jpg

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:42:47pm

re: #170 CuriousLurker

LOL, I'm guessing prolly not.

Pity. I sort of would have liked to see Bin Laden being made to basket-weave, or express himself through modern dance.

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HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 2:43:13pm

re: #164 darthstar

There are a lot of differences between President Bush and President Obama, but one of the most striking ones to surface in the past few days is the fact that, under President Obama, Osama bin Laden is dead. Reconstituting the bin Laden search team (canceled by Bush in 2005) in January 2009 was a pretty good idea in retrospect.

Michael Moore's biggest problem is he's overweight and not very attractive, so people like to ignore him, dismiss him, or write him off as a crazy commie.

Yeah, Obama deserves a ton of credit for doing that. I think people who wanted to paint him as weak or naive in foreign policy simply weren't listening to him or were hearing what they wanted to hear. My problem with Moore honestly is I find him intellectually dishonest. Like, I remember in Bowling for Columbine he criticized Clinton for "waging the dog" in Kosovo and then he went around and endorsed Wesley Clark who was the US general in charge of NATO I believe at the time. I don't hate the guy like some do but he annoys me.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 6, 2011 2:44:20pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't think fish care about the moral qualities of their food. Do YOU check to make sure a fish you eat wasn't a serial killer?

Of course. You know how it goes, you eat the flesh of a serial killer, you become a serial killer. It's like a law or something. Now we're gonna be stuck with a bunch of terrorist fish.

Won't somebody please think of Sponge Bob?

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CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:44:57pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

Pity. I sort of would have liked to see Bin Laden being made to basket-weave, or express himself through modern dance.

Wearing a pink burqa & pink satin ballerina slippers? I maybe coulda gone for that.

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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:45:02pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Also in "Bowling" was when he got handed a free gun for opening a checking account. Moore is a douche bag liar.

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sagehen Fri, May 6, 2011 2:45:47pm

re: #130 Charles

Here's what I wrote back when Obama made that promise: Obama Promises to Invade Pakistan, Edwards Promises to Get Tough With Saudi Arabia.

Oh yeah. That’ll work.

Hey, Charles of 2008: put down the Koolaid pitcher!

But seriously, I couldn't have been more wrong. Obama came through.

politifact's The Obameter - Promise Kept

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:45:53pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

Pity. I sort of would have liked to see Bin Laden being made to basket-weave, or express himself through modern dance.

Perhaps a lyrical dance piece. In spandex with George Galloway as his dance partner. Speaking of which. Has Galloway thrown in his two cents about this?

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:46:20pm

re: #177 CuriousLurker

Wearing a pink burqa & pink satin ballerina slippers? I maybe coulda gone for that.

Do they make burqas in extra-long?

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:46:51pm

re: #176 Slumbering Behemoth

Of course. You know how it goes, you eat the flesh of a serial killer, you become a serial killer. It's like a law or something. Now we're gonna be stuck with a bunch of terrorist fish.

Won't somebody please think of Sponge Bob?

Fin Laden!!11ty

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CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:46:58pm

re: #181 SanFranciscoZionist

Do they make burqas in extra-long?

If not, I would've made one for him myself.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:47:06pm

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

Also in "Bowling" was when he got handed a free gun for opening a checking account. Moore is a douche bag liar.

I've belonged to like six banks since I got out of high school, and none of them have ever given me a free gun.

Or, for that matter, offered me a gun I had to pay for.

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:47:07pm

re: #181 SanFranciscoZionist

Do they make burqas in extra-long?

A mini-burqa with fishnet hose would work.

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zora Fri, May 6, 2011 2:47:47pm

re: #138 Gus 802

that would have been "light treason", at least.

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CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:47:58pm

re: #185 darthstar

A mini-burqa with fishnet hose would work.

And a feather boa. And sequins. Lots of 'em.

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:48:05pm

re: #182 Gus 802

Fin Laden!!11ty

By now, he's been picked clean by crabs and other sea critters.

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:48:13pm

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

I've belonged to like six banks since I got out of high school, and none of them have ever given me a free gun.

Or, for that matter, offered me a gun I had to pay for.

I was offered a free toaster, but I wasn't comfortable with keeping a loaded weapon in the house.

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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, May 6, 2011 2:48:16pm

re: #158 Gus 802

Don't you mean sea kittens?

/

I made some tunafish (excuse me "seakitten") salad the other day and since my cat was yowling around my feet I put a little dollop in a bowl and set it down for him. He sniffed at it and then started making "litter box" burying motions with his feet on the vinyl. Obviously this means that he recognized the sea kittens as kin and wanted to give them a proper burial. (or just perhaps me adding garlic, onion, a dub of dijon mustard, and lemon juice to my tuna salad is what put him off it).

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:48:17pm

re: #182 Gus 802

Fin Laden!!11ty

hahahahah-- good one.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:48:30pm

re: #180 Gus 802

Perhaps a lyrical dance piece. In spandex with George Galloway as his dance partner. Speaking of which. Has Galloway thrown in his two cents about this?

Yes.

No surprises. Boilerplate.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:48:52pm

re: #191 iceweasel

hahahahah-- good one.

That's from Stephen Colbert. :)

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:49:28pm

re: #192 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes.

No surprises. Boilerplate.

Ah. Ok. Consistent douche is consistent. ;)

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allegro Fri, May 6, 2011 2:49:36pm

re: #184 SanFranciscoZionist

I've belonged to like six banks since I got out of high school, and none of them have ever given me a free gun.

Or, for that matter, offered me a gun I had to pay for.

I got a whole set of really nice stoneware once - a place setting free when I signed up and more pieces with every deposit. Then there was the BBQ tool set. The another BBQ tool set. The toaster oven was nice...

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:50:09pm

Yeah. Why be "bitter". :-/ What an idiot.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:50:14pm

re: #193 Gus 802

That's from Stephen Colbert. :)

I loove Colbert. DAMN YOU, daily show, for being blocked here!

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:50:19pm

re: #190 ausador

I made some tunafish (excuse me "seakitten") salad the other day and since my cat was yowling around my feet I put a little dollop in a bowl and set it down for him. He sniffed at it and then started making "litter box" burying motions with his feet on the vinyl. Obviously this means that he recognized the sea kittens as kin and wanted to give them a proper burial. (or just perhaps me adding garlic, onion, a dub of dijon mustard, and lemon juice to my tuna salad is what put him off it).

Nah, that's a natural cat instinct. In the wild, when they can't finish the entire meal, they bury the remains to keep others from finding it until they come back and finish the leftovers. My oldest cat does it all the time with wet food: Eats a bit, then does the whole "burying" motions around the bowl.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 6, 2011 2:51:14pm

re: #180 Gus 802

Perhaps a lyrical dance piece. In spandex with George Galloway as his dance partner.

It's clear to me now that you have a severe misanthropic bent, and a disturbing and deep-seated hatred for all of humanity. I'll pray for you.

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CuriousLurker Fri, May 6, 2011 2:51:17pm

Gah, client calling. BBL

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:51:43pm

re: #190 ausador

I made some tunafish (excuse me "seakitten") salad the other day and since my cat was yowling around my feet I put a little dollop in a bowl and set it down for him. He sniffed at it and then started making "litter box" burying motions with his feet on the vinyl. Obviously this means that he recognized the sea kittens as kin and wanted to give them a proper burial. (or just perhaps me adding garlic, onion, a dub of dijon mustard, and lemon juice to my tuna salad is what put him off it).

Dijon mustard? Oh...you're one of THOSE people. Do you add 'gherkins' to it too?

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:52:00pm

Where's bin Laden now?

On the open ocean, however, flies and other insects are largely absent. And if the body is floating in water less than 70 degrees Fahrenheit (21 degrees Celsius) for about three weeks, the tissues turn into a soapy fatty acid known as "grave wax" that halts bacterial growth. The skin, however, will still blister and turn greenish black. Finally, crabs and small fish may feed on the soft parts of the face like the eyes and lips...

That works for me.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:52:08pm

re: #199 Slumbering Behemoth

It's clear to me now that you have a severe misanthropic bent, and a disturbing and deep-seated hatred for all of humanity. ~~I'll pray for you.~~ I like that in you.

FTFY

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 2:52:09pm

re: #197 iceweasel

I loove Colbert. DAMN YOU, daily show, for being blocked here!

Can you access Hulu?

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:52:15pm

re: #198 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nah, that's a natural cat instinct. In the wild, when they can't finish the entire meal, they bury the remains to keep others from finding it until they come back and finish the leftovers. My oldest cat does it all the time with wet food: Eats a bit, then does the whole "burying" motions around the bowl.

By now it should mean "put this in the refrigerator for me" to humans.

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Winny Spencer Fri, May 6, 2011 2:52:28pm

re: #194 Gus 802

Ah. Ok. Consistent douche is consistent. ;)

Excrement always smells badly.

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:52:33pm

re: #202 darthstar

Where's bin Laden now?

That works for me.

Dude, I just ate!

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steve_davis Fri, May 6, 2011 2:53:01pm

re: #10 Talking Point Detective

It's getting so that when you read "outrage" from "conservatives" on the Interwebs these days, there's about a 95% probability that it is fake.

I know that BDS was pretty prevalent a few years ago, but I find it hard to believe that was a dominant a driver as ODS is now. The basic partisan logic is the same, but Republicans just have greater ideological discipline. They are a focused group, and they are clear that nothing is of the same relative importance as attacking Obama.

It's really, really depressing.

Yes, well the difference is that Bush's incompetence was basically directly responsible for some 10,000 Americans losing their lives, either here or abroad, as well as nearly bankrupting us. We despised him because he was an intellectually lazy jackass. Not because we thought badly of the color of his skin.

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dragonfire1981 Fri, May 6, 2011 2:53:10pm

re: #73 CuriousLurker

At leas one commenter suggested exactly that. I don't remember which wingnut blog it was as they all sound the same.

And that's why I don't bother with political blogs besides this one.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:53:45pm

I've been picking all the wrong banks. I've never gotten so much as a calendar.

I was looking for lack of fees, though, so there's that.

(And toasters are dangerous. My little brother nearly burned the house down with one once.)

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:54:07pm

There was nothing wrong with bin Laden that linseed oil, brushes, turpentine, canvas and oil paints couldn't fix!

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 2:54:49pm

re: #210 EmmmieG

I've been picking all the wrong banks. I've never gotten so much as a calendar.

I was looking for lack of fees, though, so there's that.

(And toasters are dangerous. My little brother nearly burned the house down with one once.)

When they outlaw toasters, only outlaws will toast!

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:54:50pm

re: #210 EmmmieG

(And toasters are dangerous. My little brother nearly burned the house down with one once.)

I tried to start a fire with a toaster, but I only had one, and you need at least two of them to rub together.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:55:01pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

Dijon mustard? Oh...you're one of THOSE people. Do you add 'gherkins' to it too?

//

To quote Michelle Malkin: What the hell is a gherkin?
//
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

The Obamas also invited 60 Minutes to come film the family making tuna fish sandwiches earlier this year–you know, to show what a regular guy he is. Question: Who the hell puts Grey Poupon and gherkins (don’t ask me what those are, I have no idea) in tuna sandwiches for kids?

Good thing the Obamas didný use cornichons; she'd be telling us how French he looks.

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:55:23pm

re: #212 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

When they outlaw toasters, only outlaws will toast!

/

To outlaws! Drink!

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:55:30pm

re: #213 darthstar

I tried to start a fire with a toaster, but I only had one, and you need at least two of them to rub together.

Hmmm. All he needed was a broken toaster, a piece of bread, and a faulty memory.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:56:03pm

re: #214 iceweasel

To quote Michelle Malkin: What the hell is a gherkin?
//
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Good thing the Obamas didný use cornichons; she'd be telling us how French he looks.

Okay, so she's a foodie. So's my sister-in-law.

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HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 2:56:35pm

re: #214 iceweasel

To quote Michelle Malkin: What the hell is a gherkin?
//
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Good thing the Obamas didný use cornichons; she'd be telling us how French he looks.

Why does Michelle Malkin give a shit so much what the Obamas eat? Oh and Grey Poupon is the shit. It is much better then French's.

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darthstar Fri, May 6, 2011 2:56:55pm

re: #214 iceweasel

Good thing the Obamas didný use cornichons; she'd be telling us how French he looks.

I love cornichons, but gherkins will do in a pinch.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:57:06pm

re: #214 iceweasel

To quote Michelle Malkin: What the hell is a gherkin?
//
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Good thing the Obamas didný use cornichons; she'd be telling us how French he looks.

She didn't know what a gherkins was? I thought she was married to a Jewish guy? Heck. It was common to chop up pickles for tuna fish sandwiches in the East Coast.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:57:38pm

re: #219 darthstar

I love cornichons, but gherkins will do in a pinch.

I love chocolate-covered oreos, but I'm not mixing them with tuna fish.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:57:48pm

re: #220 Gus 802

She didn't know what a gherkins was? I thought she was married to a Jewish guy? Heck. It was common to chop up pickles for tuna fish sandwiches in the East Coast.

So did I. Who doesn't know what a gherkin is?

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:57:54pm

Duh. E.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 6, 2011 2:58:23pm

re: #214 iceweasel

To quote Michelle Malkin: What the hell is a gherkin?
//
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Good thing the Obamas didný use cornichons; she'd be telling us how French he looks.

I have anywhere from 3-5 different mustards on hand at any given time, mostly used for marinades. I also like to put a little yellow curry powder in my tuna fish sandwich mix. I wonder, what does that make me?

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Fri, May 6, 2011 2:58:28pm

re: #222 iceweasel

So did I. Who doesn't know what a gherkin is?

Me. Is it an East Coast thing?

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:58:29pm

re: #222 iceweasel

So did I. Who doesn't know what a gherkin is?

Seriously. Whew. What a dork.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 2:58:57pm

re: #225 EmmmieG

Me. Is it an East Coast thing?

OK. You're exempt. ;)

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 2:59:30pm

re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth

I have anywhere from 3-5 different mustards on hand at any given time, mostly used for marinades. I also like to put a little yellow curry powder in my tuna fish sandwich mix. I wonder, what does that make me?

A gentleman of taste and discernment, as all who know you agree.

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HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 3:01:26pm

The thing I'll always remember about Michelle Malkin is that she harassed a boy because she didn't like his position on a health care issue because he brought up his sick mother or grandmother. She's a truly disturbed person on so many levels.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 6, 2011 3:01:59pm

re: #228 iceweasel

Ah, I see that you have never spoken to any of my ex-girlfriends then.

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TedStriker Fri, May 6, 2011 3:03:43pm

re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth

I have anywhere from 3-5 different mustards on hand at any given time, mostly used for marinades. I also like to put a little yellow curry powder in my tuna fish sandwich mix. I wonder, what does that make me?

Someone with good taste?

As for me, in my tuna salad, I like sweet pickles and onions (preferably green onions). Awful tasty...

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 3:04:24pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

The thing I'll always remember about Michelle Malkin is that she harassed a boy because she didn't like his position on a health care issue because he brought up his sick mother or grandmother. She's a truly disturbed person on so many levels.

Graeme Frost. And he was testifying in favour of S-CHIP, because he and his ten year old sister had benefited from the program. She stalked him and took pictutres through their kitchen window, and encouraged her insane readers to do the same.

Malkin is scum.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:04:52pm

re: #231 talon_262

Someone with good taste?

As for me, in my tuna salad, I like sweet pickles and onions (preferably green onions). Awful tasty...

Ugh. I haven't had a tuna on mayo for a couple of years. What's wrong with me? I always, always get albacore.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:05:11pm

Make that tuna with mayo.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, May 6, 2011 3:05:33pm

re: #220 Gus 802

She didn't know what a gherkins was? I thought she was married to a Jewish guy? Heck. It was common to chop up pickles for tuna fish sandwiches in the East Coast.

Some Democrat blogger titled his response: "Dear Michelle Malkin. A gherkin is a pickle, and you are a moron."

Personally, I hate pickles in tuna, I think it is an absolute abomination, but everyone's got their own ideas about tuna.

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zora Fri, May 6, 2011 3:05:57pm

re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth

i think a socialist.

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 3:06:44pm

Tuna with a little Miracle Whip, sweet relish, diced yellow onion, and black pepper. Good times.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:06:54pm

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

Some Democrat blogger titled his response: "Dear Michelle Malkin. A gherkin is a pickle, and you are a moron."

Personally, I hate pickles in tuna, I think it is an absolute abomination, but everyone's got their own ideas about tuna.

Yep. I liked chopped onions with mine. And of course like I mentioned it has to be albacore. The other tuna is really for cats. :)

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HappyWarrior Fri, May 6, 2011 3:07:07pm

re: #232 iceweasel

Graeme Frost. And he was testifying in favour of S-CHIP, because he and his ten year old sister had benefited from the program. She stalked him and took pictutres through their kitchen window, and encouraged her insane readers to do the same.

Malkin is scum.

It was disgusting. Malkin is yes scum.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:08:00pm

re: #237 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Tuna with a little Miracle Whip, sweet relish, diced yellow onion, and black pepper. Good times.

Place the tuna on a bagel and place massive amounts of cheddar atop it. Then place in toaster oven.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 3:08:10pm

No one else likes celery in their tuna salad? :(

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, May 6, 2011 3:08:34pm

re: #238 Gus 802

Always albacore. The other tuna? I don't think that's even fit for cats.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:08:47pm

re: #241 iceweasel

No one else likes celery in their tuna salad? :(

That works too.

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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, May 6, 2011 3:08:55pm

re: #240 Gus 802

Place the tuna on a bagel and place massive amounts of cheddar atop it. Then place in toaster oven.

THIS. NOW.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:09:09pm

re: #242 Slumbering Behemoth

Always albacore. The other tuna? I don't think that's even fit for cats.

Yeah. I hate finding eyeballs in my tuna.

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watching you tiny alien kittens are Fri, May 6, 2011 3:09:14pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

Dijon mustard? Oh...you're one of THOSE people. Do you add 'gherkins' to it too?

//

I have been known too at times when the whim strikes me. (but only a teaspoon or so).
BTW it is 'sweet relish' not Gherkins. Who would put whole small sweet pickles into their tuna salad? That would be entirely too phallic...err..or something. :p

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:10:19pm

re: #241 iceweasel

No one else likes celery in their tuna salad? :(

Or potato chips? That was from grade school. Stick a bunch of potato chips inside the tuna fish sandwich.

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:12:07pm

BIAB

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Targetpractice Fri, May 6, 2011 3:12:45pm

re: #240 Gus 802

Place the tuna on a bagel and place massive amounts of cheddar atop it. Then place in toaster oven.

*Jots down note*

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 3:28:03pm

re: #172 Cannadian Club Akbar

They're from Florida. Seen them many times years ago.

Awww I am jealous, RIP Criss Oliva

Gutter Ballet is such SUCH a great record

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 3:29:39pm

re: #232 iceweasel

Graeme Frost. And he was testifying in favour of S-CHIP, because he and his ten year old sister had benefited from the program. She stalked him and took pictutres through their kitchen window, and encouraged her insane readers to do the same.

Malkin is scum.

yeah, Malkin is sort of a more clever Geller, or at least was, the calculating personality willing to smear anyone, destroy anyone

and you know her conscience would be clear if some wacko broke into their house or assaulted the child

she's another Ann Coulter, she just doesn't care who she harms, just cynical and manipulative in the extreme

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, May 6, 2011 3:29:56pm

re: #240 Gus 802

Place the tuna on a bagel and place massive amounts of cheddar atop it. Then place in toaster oven.

christ that sounds revolting

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Gus Fri, May 6, 2011 3:31:31pm

re: #252 WindUpBird

christ that sounds revolting

Well. Maybe not massive massive. It's a tuna melt.

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YukonCornelius Fri, May 6, 2011 4:07:23pm

Wow, insane.

This kind of reminds me of that time during the 2008 campaign when Obama was speaking at some event in Ohio, and there were several Ohio state flags behind him. If you remember, the Ohio flag looks similar to the American flag except there's a large "O" on it and several wingnuts immediately started yelling "OBAMA CHANGED THE FLAG TO PUT HIS NAME ON IT!!!"

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, May 6, 2011 4:28:08pm

re: #241 iceweasel

I did... but lot's of bread and butter pickles really made it for me.

I liked tuna salad sweet.

Very few fish vegetarian substitutes.

At least that I have found.

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mikec6666 Fri, May 6, 2011 4:50:38pm

i'm sorta surprised they retracted any posts -- i guess my cynicism has seeped in deep

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lawhawk Fri, May 6, 2011 7:31:04pm

re: #91 ausador

That's awesome. I've known way too many people who have been diagnosed with cancer and that you're giving someone the gift of life is too cool to even put into words. As for what they'll expect of you to collect the marrow, you might not have that much traveling to do - they might be set up to collect bone marrow at a NMDP-partnering hospital near you and then the marrow is couriered to its ultimate destination. That's something you could probably check on your own.

Again - very cool!

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John Q Sat, May 7, 2011 11:16:53am

"Wingnut Blog Fail of the Week"

You mean there's only one per week? You haven't been counting!!

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chris16 Sat, May 7, 2011 8:07:01pm

First time at this site. Thank you for the great article and posts. I was reading about the disgusting attempt to taint President Obama with the false accusation they write occurred the day he met with the victims families. Whiles President Obama was honoring the Seals and our troops in KY the crazy right was trying to destroy him. Dirty trick and lies. The tweet stories was so pathetic.
The good that I can see is some Independents and Republicans after the radio, written and TV coverage provided by the right will decide that the repubs are no longer the political party that represents them

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labman57 Sat, May 7, 2011 8:20:27pm

Many right wingers, in an act of desperation to find new talking points to form the basis of their anti-Obama vitriol -- job growth stalling? ... dead, medicare repeal? ... dead, health care reform repeal? ... dead, birth certificate denial? ... dead, inability to take on terrorism? ... DEAD -- have reverted to the tried-and-true intellectually lazy and ultimately disingenuous tactic that has long been a favorite of Palin, Bachmann, Beck, Limbaugh, etc.:
When all else fails, make crap up.

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