1 sod  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:03:35pm

I'm a closet liberal.

2 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:06:02pm

There are some sharp, poised kids in there. The boy in the green and black shirt is going to be occupying the White House one day.

3 HappyWarrior  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:06:07pm

It puts it in perspective there are kids that for most or in some cases their whole life that OBL was wanted. One of my brothers was not even seven months old when 9-11 occured. I still remember that day vividly as it was my first whole week of high school and I just remember leaving Math for world history and the TV was on.

4 researchok  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:07:52pm

Obama on 60 Minutes.

Good interview so far

5 ElCapitanAmerica  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:08:09pm

"Osama bin Laden is like a camper in Black Ops."
LOL!

6 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:10:04pm

re: #4 researchok

Obama on 60 Minutes.

Good interview so far

The Wingnuts are gonna be outraged.

7 researchok  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:11:52pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

The Wingnuts are gonna be outraged.

Exquisite understatement.

8 HappyWarrior  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:12:10pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

The Wingnuts are gonna be outraged.

Are they ever not?

9 FreedomMoon  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:14:16pm

"He wasn't in a cave, he was just hanging out in a mansion!!"

Wise words from a 10 year old. Odd it took us ten years to figure that out.

10 simoom  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:20:46pm

"He's a camper!"

11 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:21:26pm

But it's sad in a way

12 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:22:52pm

Terrorists, if you are listening, please stop terrorizing us.

This vid is the BEST

13 researchok  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:22:56pm

Here we are a week later and I'm on the edge of my seat listening to the interview.

What an operation the administration and military put together.

14 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:24:33pm

re: #13 researchok

Here we are a week later and I'm on the edge of my seat listening to the interview.

What an operation the administration and military put together.

Obama comes across as very Presidential

15 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:26:06pm

re: #14 HoosierHoops

Obama comes across as very Presidential

frickin west coast

16 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:27:04pm

thinkprogress ThinkProgress
by Pam_Spaulding

RT @GOOD: Only 6 percent of scientists are Republican. Is this a problem? [Link: su.pr...]

17 researchok  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:27:37pm

re: #14 HoosierHoops

Obama comes across as very Presidential

Absolutely.

I may not agree with all this administration's domestic policies but when it comes to national security, Obama is and has been right on the money.

Notwithstanding the grief a lot of his base has given him, he keeps his eye on the national security ball.

18 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:28:38pm

re: #1 sod

I'm a closet liberal.

maybe there is some treatment?

19 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:29:13pm

"They tried handling it with words and it didn't work."

20 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:29:38pm

re: #18 albusteve

maybe there is some treatment?

///There's no treatment, you're just born that way...

21 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:29:59pm

re: #17 researchok

Absolutely.

I may not agree with all this administration's domestic policies but when it comes to national security, Obama is and has been right on the money.

Notwithstanding the grief a lot of his base has given him, he keeps his eye on the national security ball.

Ding! My feelings exactly.

22 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:30:22pm

re: #20 jamesfirecat

///There's no treatment, you're just born that way...

oh noez!
I yam what I yam

23 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:31:14pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

But it's sad in a way

what is?...why so cryptic?

24 Max  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:32:11pm

Interesting video. The most frightening portion was when they asked the kids about their thoughts on Americans being happy about Osama's death. Most if them thought Americans were hypocritical for cheering the death of a man who murdered there thousand Americans.

If I may stand on a soapbox for a moment, this really highlights a failure of the American educational system. We have failed to give our youth a clear sense if right and wrong.

25 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:34:03pm

re: #24 Max D. Reinhardt

Interesting video. The most frightening portion was when they asked the kids about their thoughts on Americans being happy about Osama's death. Most if them thought Americans were hypocritical for cheering the death of a man who murdered there thousand Americans.

If I may stand on a soapbox for a moment, this really highlights a failure of the American educational system. We have failed to give our youth a clear sense if right and wrong.

not we, others maybe

26 Max  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:34:11pm

re: #17 researchok

I may not agree with all this administration's domestic policies but when it comes to national security, Obama is and has been right on the money.

Notwithstanding the grief a lot of his base has given him, he keeps his eye on the national security ball.

RINO!

/

27 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:36:10pm

re: #24 Max D. Reinhardt

Interesting video. The most frightening portion was when they asked the kids about their thoughts on Americans being happy about Osama's death. Most if them thought Americans were hypocritical for cheering the death of a man who murdered there thousand Americans.

If I may stand on a soapbox for a moment, this really highlights a failure of the American educational system. We have failed to give our youth a clear sense if right and wrong.

I don't think "right and wrong" is something that can truly be "taught" doubtlessly not in the sense of "action X is right, action Y is wrong..." a better approach in my mind would be to focus on dealing with how certain results are to be preferred and some are to avoided.

So not "it's wrong to hit someone" but "it is wrong to needlessly cause harm to others" for example...

Ethics are complicated.

28 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:37:32pm

re: #23 albusteve

what is?...why so cryptic?

Cause kids, they make us more moral.

29 researchok  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:37:35pm

Very good interview.

What strikes me about this interview is that if you didn't know Obama's political affiliation, you would be unable to discern if her were a Republican or a Democrat.

When it comes to national security, he is an American president, first and foremost. He shares that with many of his predecessors. .

He reflects a great tradition that way.

That, more than anything else will drive his detractors crazy.

30 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:39:05pm

re: #24 Max D. Reinhardt

Interesting video. The most frightening portion was when they asked the kids about their thoughts on Americans being happy about Osama's death. Most if them thought Americans were hypocritical for cheering the death of a man who murdered there thousand Americans.

If I may stand on a soapbox for a moment, this really highlights a failure of the American educational system. We have failed to give our youth a clear sense if right and wrong.

Uh, no. Morality is morality. Kids have this basic feeling. We are biased.

31 efuseakay  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:39:27pm

Heh... kids... :)

------------------------------

About that Taliban raid on Kandahar the other day... looks like some of them were Pakistani... why am I not surprised...

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:48:32pm

re: #27 jamesfirecat

Ethics are complicated.

How do they work?

33 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:49:46pm

re: #24 Max D. Reinhardt

Interesting video. The most frightening portion was when they asked the kids about their thoughts on Americans being happy about Osama's death. Most if them thought Americans were hypocritical for cheering the death of a man who murdered there thousand Americans.

If I may stand on a soapbox for a moment, this really highlights a failure of the American educational system. We have failed to give our youth a clear sense if right and wrong.

Hypocrisy has little to do with right and wrong, it's about consistency. Kids are finely tuned at detecting inconsistent behavior. One can think killing Osama was right and not celebrate it. I understand why people cheer, they want to express their relief, but the kids see the disconnect and react appropriately to it.

34 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:50:45pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

Hypocrisy has little to do with right and wrong, it's about consistency. Kids are finely tuned at detecting inconsistent behavior. One can think killing Osama was right and not celebrate it. I understand why people cheer, they want to express their relief, but the kids see the disconnect and react appropriately to it.

And that's the beauty. And it keeps us in check.

35 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:51:00pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

And that's the beauty. And it keeps us in check.

maybe

36 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:52:50pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

And that's the beauty. And it keeps us in check.

If we want to be kept in check. If we want to force them to pick a side and not think too deeply about things we can be like HAMAS.

37 Gus  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:59:32pm

"I've seen a look in dogs' eyes, a look of amazed contempt and I am convinced that basically dogs think humans are nuts." - John Steinbeck

38 Velvet Elvis  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:02:59pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

Hypocrisy has little to do with right and wrong, it's about consistency. Kids are finely tuned at detecting inconsistent behavior. One can think killing Osama was right and not celebrate it. I understand why people cheer, they want to express their relief, but the kids see the disconnect and react appropriately to it.

I've encountered this view even with college aged kids. I think it has more to do with how old you were when 9/11 happened and how big a mark it left on you.

39 mikefromArlington  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:05:15pm

Those kids were more insightful than all of the garbage I hear on Fox and Friends!

40 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:07:27pm

re: #39 mikefromArlington
Out of the mouths of babes...
[Link: idioms.thefreedictionary.com...]

41 eightyfiv  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:15:07pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

I remember vividly as a little kid (9yo, maybe) my dad asking me if it was okay to bend the law to favor a little old lady over a big company. "Sure!" I responded enthusiastically. I mean, it's a little old lady! Perhaps touchingly naive, childhood morality is... unrefined.

(from the utterly random examples department)

42 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:16:24pm

I think many young children simply parrot the views they hear expressed in their home. Certainly the 8-10 year olds here. It also depends, whether they knew families who lost loved ones on 9-11. My sisters church lost 45 members.
Her kids think differently about OBL, than the ones who just saw it on the news.

43 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:22:00pm

re: #38 Conservative Moonbat

I've encountered this view even with college aged kids. I think it has more to do with how old you were when 9/11 happened and how big a mark it left on you.

I've encountered the view among some middle aged friends who lived in New York and lost close friends in the attacks, like my ex wife. To the point where they won't even express feeling glad that he's dead. Now I'm absolutely glad that he's dead, I don't feel like cheering publicly but am utterly relieved and glad that it happened. So I don't think it has much to do with how much a person was impacted by the attacks, but about how appropriate they feel about celebrating a death. It was necessary, it's done, now let's move on is how I view it.

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:25:06pm

Pwnd

2012 Obama Poster...

45 SpaceJesus  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:27:14pm

i see at least one future lawyer in there

46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:27:51pm

Joakim Noah looks like a "Shogun" with his hair put up on his head like that. Total bad-ass.

47 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:28:16pm

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pwnd

2012 Obama Poster...

If it weren't a bit tasteless to wear in public, I'd buy one of those shirts!

48 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:28:21pm

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pwnd

2012 Obama Poster...

Heh.

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:32:47pm

re: #44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't steal that, y'all. Gonna be my post Mother's Day avatar.

50 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:37:08pm

For those of us without TV....
Obama on bin Laden: The full "60 Minutes" interview (video)

51 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:38:48pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

For those of us without TV...
Obama on bin Laden: The full "60 Minutes" interview (video)

even I have a TV...football and all that rot

52 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:40:52pm

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't steal that, y'all. Gonna be my post Mother's Day avatar.

Too late ;-P

53 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:41:12pm

re: #51 albusteve

even I have a TV...football and all that rot

I gave up on tv. Too Many commercials and not enough good programing.

54 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:41:58pm

re: #47 talon_262

If it weren't a bit tasteless to wear in public, I'd buy one of those shirts!

not me
it's over...
now comes the entertainment aspect....it's sick

56 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:43:08pm

re: #53 Killgore Trout

I gave up on tv. Too Many commercials and not enough good programing.

commercials are a curse...they ruin an otherwise pleasant experience

57 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:43:56pm

re: #55 Varek Raith

Florida Cuts Unemployment Benefits To Pay For Corporate Tax Cut

ahahaha!...where've ya been?

58 Varek Raith  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:44:47pm

re: #57 albusteve

ahahaha!...where've ya been?

Sinus infection.
I've been out of the loop.
:P

59 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:45:39pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

For those of us without TV...
Obama on bin Laden: The full "60 Minutes" interview (video)

Sponsored by Viagra.

60 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:45:45pm

re: #58 Varek Raith

Sinus infection.
I've been out of the loop.
:P

really old news already...nice try tho!
don't give up

61 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:46:26pm

re: #55 Varek Raith

Florida Cuts Unemployment Benefits To Pay For Corporate Tax Cut

What a bunch of shitbirds...I wish Rick Scott were unemployed right now.

62 Varek Raith  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:47:21pm

re: #60 albusteve

really old news already...nice try tho!
don't give up

Image: 2009_Corvette_ZR1_First_Drive.jpg

63 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:47:53pm

re: #62 Varek Raith

Image: 2009_Corvette_ZR1_First_Drive.jpg

I'm getting a tingle up my leg

64 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:49:21pm

re: #59 Charles

Sponsored by Viagra.

We are a civilization that revolves around boner pills and detergent.

65 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:49:56pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

We are a civilization that revolves around boner pills and detergent.

Clean Old Men.

66 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:50:07pm

re: #59 Charles

Sponsored by Viagra.

has Viagra contributed to America's new aggression?....did the CIA 'fuel' our beloved Seals with Viagra to prime them for their recent hit on OBL?
news at 11

67 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:50:59pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

We are a civilization that revolves around boner pills and detergent.

I have no less than 83 choices of toothpaste at the market

68 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 8, 2011 5:53:29pm

re: #67 albusteve

Did you count them?
;)

69 Stephen T.  Mon, May 9, 2011 5:03:31am

re: #41 eightyfiv

I remember vividly as a little kid (9yo, maybe) my dad asking me if it was okay to bend the law to favor a little old lady over a big company. "Sure!" I responded enthusiastically. I mean, it's a little old lady! Perhaps touchingly naive, childhood morality is... unrefined.

(from the utterly random examples department)

We must have had the same kind of dad, for I was also asked a similar question. My response, however was the opposite. I believed then that the law was the law and there could be no exceptions made no matter the circumstances. I was also naive, but not touchingly so. I agree that childhood morality is unrefined.


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