Just when I was about to unleash the paint roller, a new thread shows up.

CURSES~!

I love happy endings.

Good going, Spaghetti.

re: #3 jaunte

Good going, Spaghetti.

Well, the ham sandwich was nothin' but a hero.

GOOD Transparency Food: Waste Not, Want Not

Food Waste Crisis

re: #5 Killgore Trout

GOOD Transparency Food: Waste Not, Want Not

[Video]
Seriously, think about how much shit you throw out every week.

I do. It's disgusting, how much trash my family can create every week, and it's not just food.

Beautiful nostalgia tonight. Listening to the soundtrack of Rent. I will cover you - nice

re: #7 reine.de.tout

I do. It's disgusting, how much trash my family can create every week, and it's not just food.

And my neighbor, who grew up poor on a farm, during the depression, doesn't have very much trash at all. In fact, she puts her can out about once every 2 weeks, and she might have 2 bags of trash. I need to take some lessons.

Finally got caught up reading on some of today's older threads, and thought I might mention something of note on the Tea Party leader's story downstairs.

For someone who professes to be so patriotic, you think that more people within his movement would notice that the uniform that Mr. Temple is wearing is not one that was worn by members of the American Revolution.

It was worn by the German Field Jager Corps of Hesse-Cassel (aka the Hessians).
Who were hired mercenaries by the British during the Revolutionary War to fight against the Americans.

Here's an artist rendering of Field Jager Corps soldier, for comparison.

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Seriously, think about how much shit you throw out every week.

As little as possible. I've got the shaggy ass end of a bag of tortilla chips I don't know what to do with. I'm thinking make-shift croutons. That's the best idea I have so far. Any suggestions?

re: #11 Slumbering Behemoth

Use them on top of a green salad with onions, beans and a little cheese.

re: #11 Slumbering Behemoth

As little as possible. I've got the shaggy ass end of a bag of tortilla chips I don't know what to do with. I'm thinking make-shift croutons. That's the best idea I have so far. Any suggestions?

Frito pie

re: #9 reine.de.tout

My grandma is one of those people. But she'll eat stuff with mold on it (poor eyesight and no sense of smell). I swear she has an iron stomach.

re: #11 Slumbering Behemoth

As little as possible. I've got the shaggy ass end of a bag of tortilla chips I don't know what to do with. I'm thinking make-shift croutons. That's the best idea I have so far. Any suggestions?

Taco salad.

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Frito pie

That's a good one. I just usually dump 'em on a plate, scatter a large handful of shredded cheddar & some taco meat and call it Nachos.

Worst case was only shredded Mozzarella and ring baloney in the house. Now I like ring baloney a whole heck of a lot. but it isn't meant to be in anything pretending to be nachos... :eek:

As far as I can tell, this is just a blog comment by an average shmo, one Mark Tindall, but it is as succinct and insightful an analysis of modern fundamentalism as I have seen anywhere:

Fundamentalism is essentially about controlling people. It can only operate in authoritarian hierarchies because unchallengeability can only be passed down and enforced in this way. ...Fundamentalists all share the same viewpoint that what must be returned to are the unchallengeable and unchanging dictates of a higher power.

...The great psychological appeal of fundamentalism is that it offers certainty. Certainty can feel better than doubt and confusion. It can eliminate internal conflict, or at least suppress and bring relief from it.

...Certainty must be able to withstand challenges and counter-evidence -- anything that brings doubt. No combination of reason and experience can give the necessary kind of certainty, especially about the future. So faith is the key to religious certainty.

...A simple universe with a simple good (those who follow the rules), and a simple evil (those who do not), and simple explanations that can never be disproven are necessary for certainty.

Goodnight, all.

This movie is unbelievably awesome. +1, sharing on Facebook, etc....

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Frito pie

NOT the diet plate!

re: #16 wlewisiii

That's a good one. I just usually dump 'em on a plate, scatter a large handful of shredded cheddar & some taco meat and call it Nachos.

I've got about a cup full of bits mostly no more than one quarter by one quarter inch.

Bird food is another option I'm considering.

re: #17 Shiplord Kirel

That's why I've believed that fundamentalists should be considered religious than the "average" believer or spiritualists.

Their world literally revolves around religion. And it's that certainty they have toward their deity, along with a refusal to compromise when given hard evidence of the contrary.

re: #22 laZardo

That's why I've believed that fundamentalists should be considered more religious than the "average" believer or spiritualists.

PIMF

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

I've got about a cup full of bits mostly no more than one quarter by one quarter inch.

Bird food is another option I'm considering.

Kinky Friedman says that when he's at his folks' place in Texas, leftovers go into the back yard because, as his brother says, "Somethin'll git it."

re: #22 laZardo

"On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being".

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

Kinky Friedman says that when he's at his folks' place in Texas, leftovers go into the back yard because, as his brother says, "Somethin'll git it."

Many, many years ago, I took that very same attitude while camping here in CA, tossing scrap bits of gristle and fat from my dinner out into the woods. And because I do love to sleep under the stars as weather permits, later that night I awoke surrounded by many large raccoons looking for more.

Several tense minutes passed, as I pretended to still be asleep while keeping one eye on the critters and another on the hand axe just within reach.

Good Night, all.

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

Many, many years ago, I took that very same attitude while camping here in CA, tossing scrap bits of gristle and fat from my dinner out into the woods. And because I do love to sleep under the stars as weather permits, later that night I awoke surrounded by many large raccoons looking for more.

Several tense minutes passed, as I pretended to still be asleep while keeping one eye on the critters and another on the hand axe just within reach.

It works better if you go back into your house to sleep.

:)

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

Many, many years ago, I took that very same attitude while camping here in CA, tossing scrap bits of gristle and fat from my dinner out into the woods. And because I do love to sleep under the stars as weather permits, later that night I awoke surrounded by many large raccoons looking for more.

Several tense minutes passed, as I pretended to still be asleep while keeping one eye on the critters and another on the hand axe just within reach.

One summer many years ago, I worked for a tree trimming service. One of our jobs was at an isolated house in the woods near Denton Texas. The owner was a charming middle-aged lady who showed a definite new-age bent. As usual, we got there at the crack of dawn. I immediately noticed a sizable number of squirrels and other small animals gathered around the backyard. There was even a pair of raccoons, a rarity since these are normally nocturnal animals. I commented on this and the lady explained that she thought she had a spiritual affinity of some kind for small creatures, and they for her. I was mulling that while she went back into the house. She returned with a gigantic bag of dry dog food, which she poured into a big galvanized steel tub in the yard. This strongly suggested that the affinity was based on something a little more concrete than inter-species spirituality.

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

Food, a universal language of love!

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

Duly noted. I was about 16 at the time, mostly a city boy then. My mom and her boyfriend were like "WTF are you doing, that's gonna attract animals". My thinking was "Better they eat it than it go to waste".

I ended up having quite a few tense minutes in the dark, still night to contemplate my folly.

re: #30 Floral Giraffe

Food, a universal language of love!

Feed them and they will come. Remember that Jesus himself started his public ministry with the loaves and fishes.

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

Feed them and they will come. Remember that Jesus himself started his public ministry with the loaves and fishes.

Yes, but Jesus didn't end up with thousands of raccoons trailing him up and down Galilee. At least, they're not in the Gospels.

Wouldn't be raccoons, anyway, it would be hyraxes. People I know in Israel say that they serve the same basic function, knocking over trash cans and eating anything left behind in the picnic basket.

re: #30 Floral Giraffe

Food, a universal language of love!

More so than your usual talk of whips and corporal punishment, you are seriously turning me on right now.

/or maybe I'm just hungry

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Here, in LALA land, those are known as "the homeless".
They are RUTHLESS on the garbage cans.

re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth

You forgot my favorite....
SPANKINGS!

re: #35 Floral Giraffe

Here, in LALA land, those are known as "the homeless".
They are RUTHLESS on the garbage cans.

Yes, but are they this cute?

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

Not likely, but I have seen some that are just that hairy.

re: #37 SanFranciscoZionist

No, but many are that feral.
Hope you are well.
Sleep tight, all.

re: #36 Floral Giraffe

I'm gonna log off now before I type something that embarrasses us all. Or, mostly just embarrasses me.

G'nite Lizards.

re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth

Aww, post it.
Pretty please?

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

Kinky Friedman says that when he's at his folks' place in Texas, leftovers go into the back yard because, as his brother says, "Somethin'll git it."

If you have enough room to keep chickens, they solve the waste food problem and produce fresh eggs.

I just wanted to comment about the Maddow bit on the Abortion legislation of South Dakota:

Abortion is a right protected by the law of the land, and I find it the height of hypocrisy for people who yell, scream, bite, spit venom, and defame to protect their gun rights to suddenly turn around and say that some rights are more equal than others.

It makes the bile rise up to my throat with absolute loathing and repugnance for them and their "views". I wonder how they would take it if a state suddenly mandated all of these sorts of rules before somebody could buy a gun. I'm banking that they would be literally up in arms and you would see far more people being murdered and killed by psychotic fuckwits who think that the "Guvmin't" is about to steal their "wimmins" too.

This whole "holier than thou" and "we're more Christian and more American" and "we're better than you" attitude is exactly what I meant when I wrote my piece about how the right wing has become a damn Nazi party in the last few years.

Sorry, I just had to get that off of my chest while I'm sitting here at work. =P

Shit My Dad Says: Philippine Edition

BTW, that last one was Joshua Bell's version of Debussy's "The Girl with the Flaxen Hair".

And now for something totally awesome and retro like nothing else can be:

Morning, all

re: #48 Summer

And now for something totally awesome and retro like nothing else can be:

[Video]

Blast from our Twilight Zone past.

Leftovers in my house just get thrown away with the exception of breads/cereals and things that birdies might eat. They go into the back yard. They always seem to disappear within 24 hours.

I have carried large amounts of culinary "mistakes" a couple of hundred yards up into the woods near my house... just cause we don't like them don't mean a critter or two wont love them.

Morning folks!

Local News:

Planned Parenthood ruling may come today
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

A federal judge could decide today whether to temporarily stop enforcement of a law cutting off funds to Planned Parenthood of Indiana.

The health provider challenged the constitutionality of the law and filed a restraining order to keep it from being enforced hours after Gov. Mitch Daniels signed it Tuesday.

Planned Parenthood is asking U.S. District Judge Tanya Walton Pratt to allow the federal funding distributed through the state to continue while she weighs whether to strike down the law on constitutional grounds.

Man jumps to death off world's tallest tower in Dubai

The man, believed to be in his twenties and of South Asian background, jumped from the 147th floor of the 828-metre (2,717 feet) skyscraper and landed on a terrace on the 108th floor, local daily The National reported, but those details were not confirmed by the building's developer.

Holy shit.
I got vertigo just reading that.
:/

Osama revisited: Birthers and NWO conspiracies, Oh My!

IN MY HONEST OPINION, Osama bin laden or his physical equivalent was convinced to assume room temperature within the past week or weeks. It has been opined (and I agree) that Mr. bin laden was of little use or significance to Al Queda or anyone else for the past seven or eight years. The Muslim Brotherhood, whether anyone here agrees or not, has an ally in our White House, therefore, the Muslim Brotherhood would like to see their ally reside in that White House for another four year term. Mr. bin laden, having outlived his usefulness to the Al Queda "cause", could enhance their ally's standing with the American public (at least the more gullible, and let's face it, the more stupid ones) were they to "serve up" Mr. bin laden or his physical equivalent, and as they say in Hollywood, " IT"S SHOWTIME!"
Some would query as to why this would occur at this time. The answer is much simpler that some would think. First of all, the dog and pony show that Mr. Trump entertained us with, totally backfired when the "birth certificate" they put forward was such a disasterous failure, it made the Obama regime look like the amatures they are, so something had to be done to deflect the national interest, and secondly, it had a chance of a win-win situation for Obama if not only were the national interest shifted away from his lack of eligibility to be POTUS, but it would enhance his approval rating to some extent.
But, like I said before, this is MY honest opinion.

[Link: libertydwells.com...]

Is everyone here really this blind? We conveniently kill Bin Laden the night before Orly Taitz (finally after 2.5 years) conducts oral arguments in court about Obama's fake birth certificate and stolen SSN.

And they conveniently never show the body on the news and they conveniently must bury the body within 24 hours due to some obscure ritual and it will be conveniently put in an unmarked grave and he was conveniently shot in the head so the body couldn't be identified (while taking caution not to cause harm to women and children) LMFAO.

If you people can't see that this was all staged to distract from Obama being tried in court for treason the very same day, well then this country deserves everything it gets.

[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]

I must admit when i heard the news this morning, i started questioning "why now?" What is there to gain by announcing Osamas death now?

Then i remembered something that was posted on here back in Feb, it was a video of a radio interview with Lindsay Williams who said Saudi Arabia will kick off on May 11th.

Now if i remember correctly, isn't Bin Laden a Saudi?

So maybe its just the catalyst the NWO need to get things moving in Saudi Arabia.

[Link: www.uepengland.com...]

Sometimes I really miss the pre-internet days when I never would have been exposed to any of these peoples insane ramblings, but then again, I wouldn't be able to point and laugh at them either. Hmm?

I suppose it all just goes to prove what some say about the Internet.

re: #54 Varek Raith

Two men are sitting drinking at a bar at the top of the Empire State Building, when the first man turns to the other and says "You know, last week I discovered that if you jump from the top of this building, the winds around the building are so intense that by the time you fall to the 10th floor, they carry you around the building and back into a window". The bartender just shakes his head in disapproval while wiping the bar.

The second guy says, "What, are you nuts? There's no way that could happen. "No, its true," the first man says. "Let me prove it to you." He gets up from the bar, jumps over the balcony, and plummets toward the street below. As he nears the 10th floor, the high winds whip him around the building and back into the 10th floor window and he takes the elevator back up to the bar and urges his fellow drinker to try it.

"Well, why not." the second guy says, "It works. I'll try it." He jumps over the balcony, plunges downward passes the 11th, 10th 9th, 8th, floors. . . and hits the sidewalk with a SPLAT.

Back upstairs the bartender turns to the other drinker and says, "You know Superman, you're a real jerk when you're drunk".

One night, a police officer was stalking out a particularly rowdy bar for possible violations of the driving-under-the-influence laws.

At closing time, he saw a fellow stumble out of the bar, trip on the curb, and try his keys on five different cars before he found his. Then, sat in the front seat fumbling around with his keys for several minutes. Everyone left the bar and drove off. Finally, he started his engine and began to pull away.

The police officer was waiting for him. He stopped the driver, read him his rights and administered the Breathalyzer test. The results showed a reading of 0.0.

The puzzled officer demanded to know how that could be.

The driver replied, "Tonight, I'm the designated decoy."

Three boys went fishing, Do , Dah ,and Doodah, and DooDah drowned. Visibly shaken at having to tell his mom that he drowned, Do suggested singing a song to break the news. So they went to DooDah's house and rang the doorbell. DooDah's mom answered and they sang as loud as their little hearts could,
"WE WENT FISHING GUESS WHO DROWNED?
DOODAH! DOODAH!"
Thanks, I'm here all week/

re: #55 ausador

Osama revisited: Birthers and NWO conspiracies, Oh My!

[Link: libertydwells.com...]

[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]

[Link: www.uepengland.com...]

Sometimes I really miss the pre-internet days when I never would have been exposed to any of these peoples insane ramblings, but then again, I wouldn't be able to point and laugh at them either. Hmm?

I suppose it all just goes to prove what some say about the Internet.

in the Good Olde Days, you would've heard these things at most any bar, locker room, or around the water cooler at work. The Interwebs just gives these fellows a chance to immortalize thier ignorant ramblings.

re: #59 ralphieboy

I once met a guy in a bar who was popular at the bar for ranting about the fact that there are no potatoes actually grown in Idaho.

I was in Alliance, OH.

I shit you not.

Why wouldn't you want to take a bath with Pokemon?
Because he might Peekatchyou

re: #61 Shropshire_Slasher

Why wouldn't you want to take a bath with Pokemon?
Because he might Peekatchyou

That's the least of your concerns.
Image: Pikachu_thunderbolt.png

re: #60 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I once met a guy in a bar who was popular at the bar for ranting about the fact that there are no potatoes actually grown in Idaho.

I was in Alliance, OH.

I shit you not.

My favorite was a rambling drunk in Bournemouth, England going on about how WWII was all a hoax: the battles were all staged to get rid of excess population and even the air raids were just put on.

They just shunted people into bomb shelters and blew up the run-down parts of the cities and obsolete factories to clear them for urban renewal.

Wonder if he has his own blos site these days...

re: #63 ralphieboy

Well, about the potato boy... I have an uncle who lives in Idaho (seriously, there was the seed planted for my lie) and I told him that my Uncle Steve was in fact an Idaho potato farmer, and had been farming potatoes in Idaho for over 30 years.

I forgot the proof (total horse shit) that I showed him. But he bought it.

I left the bar a freakin' hero. While I said he was popular, I didn't mean he was liked.

re: #64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In some countries you can go to jail for publicly denying that the Holocaust happened. I wonder if you could get busted for saying that WWII was a hoax.

re: #65 ralphieboy

Only if stupidity becomes a crime.

Last thing about "Potato Boy". I just didn't get what he had to gain from the conspiracy.

Not like being a "potato denier" will get you laid.

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, logically speaking: to deny WWII would be to deny the Holocaust, which was part of WWII. I will personally just stick with JFK assassination and fake Moon landing theories myself to be on the safe side...

Lol.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last thing about "Potato Boy". I just didn't get what he had to gain from the conspiracy.

Not like being a "potato denier" will get you laid.

GREEDO SHOT FIRST!
/

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last thing about "Potato Boy". I just didn't get what he had to gain from the conspiracy.

Not like being a "potato denier" will get you laid.

Maybe he is trying to hook up with a sugar beet farmer...

re: #65 ralphieboy

In some countries you can go to jail for publicly denying that the Holocaust happened. I wonder if you could get busted for saying that WWII was a hoax.

Seems like it ought to be grounds for involuntary commital, but so do a lot of things.

Morning all. Afternoon here-- sunny and windy. I hear that's our high summer.

re: #72 iceweasel

Seems like it ought to be grounds for involuntary commital, but so do a lot of things.

Morning all. Afternoon here-- sunny and windy. I hear that's our high summer.

Morning {ice}. It's extremely hot and humid here in the wild north country, unusual considering that just a week and a half ago it was snowing.

re: #73 thedopefishlives

Morning {ice}. It's extremely hot and humid here in the wild north country, unusual considering that just a week and a half ago it was snowing.

Hey {fishie}! how's the Mrs and the little fishie? My best to you all.

re: #54 Varek Raith

You are supposed to have your parachute open at 2,500 feet according to USPA rules. And that building is higher than that.

re: #68 ralphieboy

Well... If you want to be logical...

re: #74 iceweasel

Hey {fishie}! how's the Mrs and the little fishie? My best to you all.

They're doing pretty well. Thankfully, the Mrs. Fish was sound asleep when I left for work. Doubly good given that they're going to a baseball game with my in-laws this afternoon.

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well... If you want to be logical...

yes, that is the point, innit?

re: #78 ralphieboy

yes, that is the point, innit?

Upding for innit.

re: #79 iceweasel

Upding for innit.

Picked that up from my Geordie friends.

National Review is complaining that Osama's dead-- they think he should have been captured alive, apparently.

Obama can't do anything right for these guys.

re: #80 ralphieboy

Picked that up from my Geordie friends.

One of the questions on the Life in the UK test for citizenship is Where is the Geordie dialect spoken?

Woulda been better to capture him alive, woulda been even better if he had surrendered voluntairly. Woulda been even even better if he had just NOT KILLED ALL THOSE PEOPLE.

re: #82 iceweasel

One of the questions on the Life in the UK test for citizenship is Where is the Geordie dialect spoken?

In Geordie-a

re: #83 ralphieboy

Woulda been better to capture him alive, woulda been even better if he had surrendered voluntairly. Woulda been even even better if he had just NOT KILLED ALL THOSE PEOPLE.

Osama was also a massmurderer of Muslims.

re: #82 iceweasel

One of the questions on the Life in the UK test for citizenship is Where is the Geordie dialect spoken?

Newcastle on Tyne. (I didn't know that, I just Googled it)

Maybe a better test would be to listen to recordings of different dialects and have to identify them.

re: #85 iceweasel

Osama was also a massmurderer of Muslims equal opportunity.

re: #86 Alouette

Newcastle on Tyne. (I didn't know that, I just Googled it)

Maybe a better test would be to listen to recordings of different dialects and have to identify them.

Correct!

Lord, I'd fail that. Besides, citizenship in the UK shouldn't require that you adopt their habit of instantly assigning a class to everyone on the basis of how they speak.
We do that in the US to a certain extent, but not like here.

re: #88 iceweasel

Correct!

Lord, I'd fail that. Besides, citizenship in the UK shouldn't require that you adopt their habit of instantly assigning a class to everyone on the basis of how they speak.
We do that in the US to a certain extent, but not like here.

Regional accents in the U.S. are dying out, thanks to mass media.

My daughter-in-law is from Alabama, a total stereotype of a "Southern belle" but she doesn't have an accent. Which is a shame, because I think Southern accents are totally cute.

re: #89 Alouette

Regional accents in the U.S. are dying out, thanks to mass media.

My daughter-in-law is from Alabama, a total stereotype of a "Southern belle" but she doesn't have an accent. Which is a shame, because I think Southern accents are totally cute.

So do I!

KCRW had a good piece on Planned Parenthood and the war on Abortion in the last year:

[Link: www.kcrw.com...]

re: #89 Alouette

Regional accents in the U.S. are dying out, thanks to mass media.

My daughter-in-law is from Alabama, a total stereotype of a "Southern belle" but she doesn't have an accent. Which is a shame, because I think Southern accents are totally cute.

I always amuse people when I talk. I was raised in Indiana but transplanted to Minnesota, and even though they're both "Midwest states", the manner of speech is totally different. And of course, I have a hilarious mix of both.

re: #89 Alouette

Regional accents in the U.S. are dying out, thanks to mass media.

I have even heard that broadcasters prefer announcers from Arizona, because the accent there is so neutral as a result of the mass immigration from all over the US that it is all but unidentifiable, and therefore free of any negative stereotypes.

re: #89 Alouette

Regional accents in the U.S. are dying out, thanks to mass media.

My daughter-in-law is from Alabama, a total stereotype of a "Southern belle" but she doesn't have an accent. Which is a shame, because I think Southern accents are totally cute.

Northern girls say, "You may."
Southern girls say, "Y'all may."

re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Northern girls say, "You may."
Southern girls say, "Y'all may."

Only if they are of easy virtue.

re: #95 Decatur Deb

Only if they are of easy virtue.

Well, let's hope they are!

Concerning the South: A good-news story about the Freedom Ride remembrance in Anniston AL

[Link: www.annistonstar.com...]

re: #81 iceweasel

re: #83 ralphieboy

Taking him alive would have been a disaster that would have dragged on for years. Double-tap was the best scenario.

re: #98 RogueOne

re: #83 ralphieboy

Taking him alive would have been a disaster that would have dragged on for years. Double-tap was the best scenario.

I meant "better" in the sense of more acceptable for those who complained about us violating international law or human rights or the like.

But it was clear that he was meant to be killed. I neither regret nor rejoice the turn of events, I am just glad that OBL is no longer a threat.

re: #98 RogueOne

re: #83 ralphieboy

Taking him alive would have been a disaster that would have dragged on for years. Double-tap was the best scenario.

Exactly. I normally would have problems with assasinantion or extra-judicial killing. Not in this instance, not one bit.

re: #98 RogueOne

re: #83 ralphieboy

Taking him alive would have been a disaster that would have dragged on for years. Double-tap was the best scenario.

How so, if you don't mind me asking? Not trying to troll or play Devil's advocate, I'm just curious as to why it'd be such an epic fail.

Things would have come out that would probably embarass the heck out of three or four US administrations, as well as those of other nations (i.e. Pakistan).

And his supporters would have been holding vigils and protest marches on an ongoing basis.

re: #102 ralphieboy

And his supporters would have been holding vigils and protest marches on an ongoing basis.

The evil nasty part of me says this would actually be a bonus. Heh.

But the point is well taken. And I do agree that this is one of those times where we were better off taking him out.

re: #101 thedopefishlives

How so, if you don't mind me asking? Not trying to troll or play Devil's advocate, I'm just curious as to why it'd be such an epic fail.

Everything from where we stored him, how nicely he was to be interrogated, who would defend him, to the trial would be a circus. It would have allowed his presence/infamy to drag on keeping him as a rallying point for jihadis. Too much hassle for no gain.

More local news:

Is Cheri Daniels ready to take the plunge?
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

A year ago, Cheri Daniels envisioned more time on the golf course and month long stays at her family's West Virginia vacation home after her husband leaves the Indiana governor's office.

She brushed off then-budding talk of a presidential candidacy as hype. Asked by an interviewer to rate the likelihood that Mitch Daniels would run, she said 2 -- on a scale of 1 to 10.

What a difference a year makes.

And on the weather front...

Gee... four inches of wet heavy snow on the ground, roads are slushy (not packed) and I have a unusual day shift at the store today... planetary chromatic convergence maybe?

re: #104 RogueOne

Everything from where we stored him, how nicely he was to be interrogated, who would defend him, to the trial would be a circus. It would have allowed his presence/infamy to drag on keeping him as a rallying point for jihadis. Too much hassle for no gain.

Would've made the OJ Simpson trial look like a Christian Science Reading room...

re: #107 ralphieboy

Would've made the OJ Simpson trial look like a Christian Science Reading room...

"If the bomb vest don't fit, you must acquit!"

Morning Honcos.

re: #108 lazardo

"If the bomb vest don't fit, you must acquit!"

HA! Now that I think about it, it might have been worth it if just one attorney used that line!

More local news:

Indiana justices uphold 'no-knock' warrants
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

The Indiana Supreme Court has upheld police use in the state of so-called "no-knock" warrants.

The court ruled Tuesday that there are many circumstances in which police officers may enter homes without knocking, including concerns for officer safety, that a suspect may escape or that evidence may be destroyed.

The Times of Munster reports the court recommended police still ask a judge for a "no knock" warrant ahead of time if the facts of the case justify entry without knocking.

re: #104 RogueOne

Everything from where we stored him, how nicely he was to be interrogated, who would defend him, to the trial would be a circus. It would have allowed his presence/infamy to drag on keeping him as a rallying point for jihadis. Too much hassle for no gain.

Quoted for truth...an alive bin Laden in custody would have been a fucking nightmare.

re: #110 RogueOne

HA! Now that I think about it, it might have been worth it if just one attorney used that line!

The trial would keep getting postponed as the jury of his peers would keep getting arrested.

One more local story: Pyro goes nuts overnight in Indy:

10 fires over 6 hours leave 1 woman dead, 1 man critically hurt
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

Arson investigators on Tuesday tried to determine whether a rash of intentional fires was started by the same person as police flooded a Near-Eastside neighborhood to put nervous residents at ease.

At least seven fires appeared to have been deliberately set between midnight Monday and 6:30 a.m. Tuesday. The cause of three others, including one that killed a 63-year-old woman and critically injured her 47-year-old son, are undetermined.

Indianapolis Fire Department officials say they often are forced to deal with multiple arson fires in a single night, but Tuesday's toll was unusual.

"It's going to take a little time to piece together if they are linked," said IFD Capt. Eric Hofmeister.

re: #111 RogueOne

More local news:

Indiana justices uphold 'no-knock' warrants
[Link: www.indystar.com...]

I couldn't help but read another article linked below that one:

Ex-Cheerleader Sues Colts Over Body Paint Photos

Can't have our scantily clad damsels bringing the team into disrepute by posing for scantily-clad pictures, now can we?

Study gives clues to how obesity spreads socially
[Link: asunews.asu.edu...]

Obesity is socially contagious, according to research published in the past few years. How it is “caught” from others remains a murky area. But findings from Arizona State University researchers published online May 5 in the American Journal of Public Health shed light on the transmission of obesity among friends and family.
.......
A strength of the study was the range of approaches taken to assess body size ideals, including ideal body size, anti-obesity preference and anti-fat stigma. For example, the participants were asked to choose whether they would rather be obese or have one of 12 socially stigmatized conditions, such as alcoholism or herpes. In many cases, the women would rather have more of the other conditions, with 25.4 percent preferring severe depression and 14.5 percent preferring total blindness over obesity.

On one hand that's really sad. OTOH, I've always felt it's better to look good than to feel good.

re: #115 iossarian

I'm fine with her suing, but saying she was fired for her ethnicity is complete bullshit. If that were the case she would have never been hired.

re: #115 iossarian

I couldn't help but read another article linked below that one:

Ex-Cheerleader Sues Colts Over Body Paint Photos

Can't have our scantily clad damsels bringing the team into disrepute by posing for scantily-clad pictures, now can we?

Yeah, I was going to post that but it's so stupid it hurt my feelings. The pic they show in the slideshow (the only one I can find and I looked long and hard so to speak) is incredibly tame. The other shock in that story is the cheerleaders only make $100 a game. That's pathetic.

re: #116 RogueOne

I'll choose the alcoholism to be my socially stigmatized condition!!!
/

re: #118 RogueOne

Yeah, I was going to post that but it's so stupid it hurt my feelings. The pic they show in the slideshow (the only one I can find and I looked long and hard so to speak) is incredibly tame. The other shock in that story is the cheerleaders only make $100 a game. That's pathetic.

I think they also get a pair of tickets to each game. I once knew a Miami Heat cheerleader. All I will say is make-up works.

re: #119 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll choose the alcoholism to be my socially stigmatized condition!!!
/

I'm vain but, even for me, people preferring to be blind over fat is crazy. You can't check yourself out in a mirror if your blind, that sounds awful.//

re: #121 RogueOne

PIMF, there are multiples so figure it out amongst yourselves.

Health advocates say a sin tax could discourage consumption, but lawmakers are reluctant to target an industry supports the jobs of more than 40,000 Illinoisans.

I was reading an article and ran across the above sentence. Am I reading it wrong or is the author and editor stoopid?

re: #121 RogueOne

I'm vain but, even for me, people preferring to be blind over fat is crazy. You can't check yourself out in a mirror if your blind, that sounds awful.//

At least you don't need to be drunk to see everyone as hot. :D

re: #123 Cannadian Club Akbar

Health advocates say a sin tax could discourage consumption, but lawmakers are reluctant to target an industry supports the jobs of more than 40,000 Illinoisans.

I was reading an article and ran across the above sentence. Am I reading it wrong or is the author and editor stoopid?

No, it's not you, he/she is stupid. Sin taxes have never worked (see: Prohibition).

Snow coming down an inch an hour out there... car had four inches on it... expected to continue off and on for most of the day... car warming up... toasty.

re: #123 Cannadian Club Akbar

Health advocates say a sin tax could discourage consumption, but lawmakers are reluctant to target an industry supports the jobs of more than 40,000 Illinoisans.

I was reading an article and ran across the above sentence. Am I reading it wrong or is the author and editor stoopid?

The story about taxing the parents of fat kids? That's wrong on multiple levels.

re: #127 RogueOne

The story about taxing the parents of fat kids? That's wrong on multiple levels.

Wait, WHAT?!

Hey all!

It's finally HOT in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

How are you-all today?

re: #125 thedopefishlives

re: #127 RogueOne

I meant the grammar. But sin taxes do suck.

re: #129 ggt

Hey all!

It's finally HOT in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

How are you-all today?

See re: #126 Walter L. Newton

Snow coming down an inch an hour out there... car had four inches on it... expected to continue off and on for most of the day... car warming up... toasty.

re: #130 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #127 RogueOne

I meant the grammar. But sin taxes do suck.

All they're missing is a "that".

re: #128 thedopefishlives

Wait, WHAT?!

Ill. lawmaker says raising obese kids should cost parents at tax time
[Link: www.stltoday.com...]

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. • An Illinois lawmaker says parents who have obese children should lose their state tax deduction.

"It's the parents' responsibility that have obese kids," said state Sen. Shane Cultra, R-Onarga. "Take the tax deduction away for parents that have obese kids."

Cultra has not introduced legislation to deny parents the $2,000 standard tax deduction, but he floated the idea Tuesday, when lawmakers took a shot at solving the state's obesity epidemic.

With one in five Illinois children classified as obese and 62 percent of the state's adults considered overweight, health advocates are pushing a platter of diet solutions including trans fat bans and restricting junk food purchases on food stamps.

FOX is canceling "Lie to Me". They suck.

re: #132 thedopefishlives

All they're missing is a "that".

That that is what I thought. (I threw in an extra "that" in case they need to borrow one)
/

re: #131 Walter L. Newton

See re: #126 Walter L. Newton

Yeah, saw that up thread. Sorry Walter.

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

FOX is canceling "Lie to Me". They suck.

They're also canceling Human Target, Breaking In, Lie to Me, and The Chicago Code. My boyfriend is pissed.

Nice to see they've got priorities:

GOP House Has Time To Honor George W. Bush, But Not Troops Who Caught Bin Laden

It almost rained here yesterday (I literally cannot remember the last time it rained) and gas is up $.10 a gallon (fungible!!!).

Been a long week already.

But, hey, the president's approval rating is up to 60%...guess the whining on the right about Obama not giving the Bush administration enough credit didn't work too well.

re: #136 ggt

Yeah, saw that up thread. Sorry Walter.

To work... later.

re: #133 RogueOne

I do actually agree with one statement in there, that it is generally the parents' problem that their kids are obese. But legislating good parenting is ... wow. Words fail me.

re: #141 thedopefishlives

I do actually agree with one statement in there, that it is generally the parents' problem that their kids are obese. But legislating good parenting is ... wow. Words fail me.

The skool I went to as a kid now has a chain link fence around the whole thing. Can't get into the playground. When I was young, we would get out of skool, run home and grab a football or a mitt and spend hours running our asses off. Now, not so much.

Fat kids?

Hey, I have an idea. How about letting parents know it's ok to let their kids play outside. We've become so safety and security conscious that kids don't go outside anymore unless it's a supervised event (soccer practice). Even then, the parent's drive them to the event.

Really, if every neighborhood kid or even 60% were outside, instead of inside with the video game, they'd be pretty safe. They all have cell phones now too!

Drive thru some neighborhoods these days during the day in the summer, not a kid in sight.

re: #143 ggt

I will bet everything I have that I walk more in a week than a regular family of 4.

re: #143 ggt

Pretty much this. My wife and I were talking just the other night, as soon as the kid gets old enough to wear a baseball glove, he's going to have one and we're going to walk down to the city park ('bout half a mile) and play ball. Regularly. As in, whenever it's not pouring buckets of rain or snowing.

re: #144 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will bet everything I have that I walk more in a week than a regular family of 4.

When I do see people outside, they are walking a dog. Sometimes, a mom with a stroller and a dog.

So, send the dog with the kids for safety.

We used to ride our bikes everywhere. Mom wouldn't drive, she'd say "walk or ride your bike".

It is so much easier NOT to gain the weight in the first place, than to lose it.

I feel so bad for some of these kids I see. Their bodies are not "programmed" to be overweight and they will battle it their whole lives.

re: #146 ggt

We used to ride our bikes everywhere. Mom wouldn't drive, she'd say "walk or ride your bike".

I went through your typical farm kid progression. I started out walking to my neighbor's house, 1/4 mile one way. Then we got bikes and we'd ride to each other's houses and all over the neighborhood. Later on, Dad let me take the tractor. And when we were finally old enough to drive, I had Dad's Chevy and he had a beat-up old Ford.

This is one area I might (haven't thought it through yet) actually agree with the far right.

A stay-at-home parent who has time to actually cook a good, from scratch, meal and walk around the yard looking for the kids once in a while. One who can hang-out over the fence talking with another stay-at-home parent and be an adult presence in the neighborhood.

Have a great morning all!

Once-fired Gary cop in trouble again
[Link: posttrib.suntimes.com...]

GARY — A year after the long-fought victory that returned Lindal Hairston to the Gary Police Department, he again faces disciplinary action that could cost him an unpaid suspension and loss of rank.

Hairston, of Hobart, was fired in February 2003 after a Lake Station teen complained Hairston threatened him at gunpoint during an off-duty confrontation that ended at the Lake Station Police Department.

The city settled a lawsuit Hairston filed challenging the dismissal by returning him to duty last year and agreeing to award him the rank of sergeant, even though he left as a patrolman.
....
Then in January, a Gary businessman complained Hairston stopped his car early Dec. 22 outside his Glen Park business, threatened him and struck him more than once.

Russell Thomas, 50, who owns Prestige night club on Broadway, claims Hairston struck him in the head after handcuffing him, then swore at him and threatened him as he took him to the police station.

A verified complaint submitted to the Gary Police Civil Service Commission charges Hairston with violating seven commission rules, one city ordinance and one state law.

Charges include willful mistreatment, making a false report, mishandling evidence, neglect of duty and failure to comply with a proper order from a superior officer.

At this rate the new assault will get him a promotion to LT.

re: #149 ggt

I don't consider it a far right thing. A stay at home parent is good for a kid, regardless if it's a mom or dad.

Now I am feeling nostalgic. Playing outside all day, over the entire neighborhood without a care. Only time you went inside is when you were hurt or hungry. Getting hurt was scraping a knee or a bump and usually my parents would tell me to get a band aid on your own. :P

Only time you came in (during the summer) was either my mom or dad yelling my name, or the sun was going down.

Mind you, I am only 35. Times have changed... and quickly.

re: #141 thedopefishlives

I do actually agree with one statement in there, that it is generally the parents' problem that their kids are obese. But legislating good parenting is ... wow. Words fail me.

New study:

Plus-size (i.e. "normal weight") fashion models promote obesity; anorexic fashion models should be the ideal.

re: #151 RogueOne

I would have to confront this guy while he was off duty, regardless of what I would be charged with.

re: #153 brennant

Only time you came in (during the summer) was either my mom or dad yelling my name, or the sun was going down.

Actually, I didn't even do that sometimes. And boy, did that ever get me in hot water.

re: #155 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would have to confront this guy while he was off duty, regardless of what I would be charged with.

Your plan might get him his own command.

re: #154 Alouette

New study:

Plus-size (i.e. "normal weight") fashion models promote obesity; anorexic fashion models should be the ideal.

Skinny models should be force fed pizza and cheesesteaks.

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

Skinny models should be force fed pizza and cheesesteaks.

I was thinking pork rinds... But that is my go-to when I see some of those women. Making sweet love to them would be like trying to hump a stack of kindling.

:D

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

Skinny models should be force fed pizza and cheesesteaks.

The problem is pretty obvious, she's not making enough sandwiches.

re: #159 brennant

Making sweet love to them would be like trying to hump a stack of kindling.

:D

how do you what is this i dont even

re: #125 thedopefishlives

No, it's not you, he/she is stupid. Sin taxes have never worked (see: Prohibition).

Sucks. syntax

Do skinny models know what today is!!!

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The fallout from the bin Laden raid continues - and there are some quite interesting tidbits to come out in the past 24 hours.

For starters, this wasn't the first time that the DEVGRU/SEAL teams had operated inside Pakistan to go after high value targets. At least one raid in 2006 was to go after Zawahiri, but it didn't successfully result in his capture. The team withdrew without anyone raising a word - perhaps because the ISI/military knew.

A similar raid apparently took place in 2008 - again without successfully acquiring the HVT - but also without raising the ire of the Pakistanis.

And today comes word that there was an understanding between then President Musharraf and President Bush in 2001/2002 - that the US would reserve the right to unilaterally go in and hunt down bin Laden and Zawahiri if the US had the intel to launch those raids.

Compare that to what Musharraf was saying just a few days ago when he complained about the US violating Pakistani sovereignty. Now, it's possible that Musharraf didn't inform the current Pakistani government or that the US didn't reiterate that understanding, but I find that hard to believe. Instead, it's much more likely that the Pakistanis wanted to find fault with the US actions because it shows just how little the US trusts the Pakistani ISI and military to keep a secret - and the possibility that the ISI/military could have been tipping off key al Qaeda/Taliban to avoid being captured/killed in these raids.

So last night we cooked up one of the barracuda I caught on saturday. Best. Fish. Ever.

re: #161 lazardo

how do you what is this i dont even

Exactly. My point. This.

re: #165 dreggas

So last night we cooked up one of the barracuda I caught on saturday. Best. Fish. Ever.

I never knew you could eat them.

re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, me neither, but they are just awesome eating. Flaky, mild and very filling.

re: #154 Alouette

New study:

Plus-size (i.e. "normal weight") fashion models promote obesity; anorexic fashion models should be the ideal.

One generally does look a few pounds heavier in a photograph than in real life, but that is not the point. Fahion models who hold up unrealistic expectations of weight and body image are also inducing eating and behavioral disorders.

We have a diet that came about in a time when most people performed 10+ hours of manual labor or ohysical activity a day. It has not changed significantly although we might only get 2 hours' worth of activity a day, and then only if we make the extra effort to do so.

re: #168 dreggas

Never seen 'em on the menu, but will have to check 'em out when I do. Sounds tasty...

re: #170 lawhawk

I've never seen them on a menu either, don't even know where you could buy them since I don't think they are fished commercially

re: #171 dreggas

I've had wahoo, which is a similar looking fish to the 'cuda, but not in the same family. Also quite tasty.

I had fresh shark once, it was tasty, but not easily available where I live...

re: #164 lawhawk

I was hearing about that deal, and on npr they were saying that part of the deal was that Pakistan would be able to vocally complain about the breach of sovereignty at the same time they secretly allowed it >>

re: #172 lawhawk

I've had wahoo, which is a similar looking fish to the 'cuda, but not in the same family. Also quite tasty.

Did a Google search. Apparently there are both salt and fresh water Barracuda.

re: #172 lawhawk

Haven't had wahoo before. They do look similar. Here's a pic of me with one of the fish.

Image: 010-43.jpg

Eat the Barracuda before he eats you!!!

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oooooh~

NOBODY thought of this?

I am let down :(

re: #174 windsagio

Yeah, they get to bitch to placate the nationalists all while giving the wink and nod to the US to keep on doing what they've been doing. It all goes back to the ugly political situation inside Pakistan and the need for the government to walk the razor's edge.

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

Pretty much. When we catch 'em we either gaff them and bring them over the rail or we bounce them over the rail. Usually they are lip hooked so no need to deal with their teeth. However we are usually using lures like these and they are pretty heavy/thick and you can see teeth marks on them after a 'cuda bites it. And yeah, they jump out of the water a lot.

I have a bit of a mess on my hands. I let my girl out without checking the backyard and she took off like a shot and snatched the neighbors outdoor cat. I yelled trying to stop her but she's fast and the cat didn't see her coming until it was too late. My first instinct was to bury it and keep my mouth shut but I'm thinking I'm going to have to tell him. This won't be fun.

re: #182 RogueOne

eek that's not good...

re: #182 RogueOne

2 words...wood chipper...
/

re: #182 RogueOne

Man, I would not want to date you!

Didn't we cover the whole "outside cats" subject yesterday?

re: #182 RogueOne

I have a bit of a mess on my hands. I let my girl out without checking the backyard and she took off like a shot and snatched the neighbors outdoor cat. I yelled trying to stop her but she's fast and the cat didn't see her coming until it was too late. My first instinct was to bury it and keep my mouth shut but I'm thinking I'm going to have to tell him. This won't be fun.

You have my condolences but I'm glad to hear that you're doing the right thing, better to at least give them closure than just think the cat ran away and spend hours/days/weeks/months hoping it will come back....

Why the heck is MSNBC flogging a story about bin Laden dying from Marfan syndrome that was being touted by the Alex Jones contingent? The only new life to the old rumor is the fact that it's being spread among the conspiracy loonies and idiots who dismiss the idea that Obama's raid got bin Laden:

Amid all the news about Osama bin Laden’s private life -- the home videos, the dyed beard, the reports of a medicine chest stocked with Avena syrup either to soothe a sour stomach or rev a flagging libido – comes a renewed rumor about the terror leader’s health.

Within days of the raid by Navy SEALS at a Pakistani compound, skeptics were resurfacing claims that it wasn’t actually a gunshot to the head last week that killed bin Laden at all. It was Marfan syndrome, a rare connective tissue disease that can cause disfigurement and sudden death.

That was the theory from Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a former state department official and apparent conspiracy theorist, who alleged years ago that bin Laden actually died in 2001 from the genetic disorder some claim affected Abraham Lincoln. His comments were broadcast last week on The Alex Jones syndicated radio show.

No word in that report that Jones is a nutcase himself who spread this nonsense and is a world class bullshitter.

re: #182 RogueOne

Yuck. Been there, except I had no idea who the cat belonged to. I got rid of the carcass without looking. Still feel bad about that one. Talk to the owner.

re: #183 dreggas

My yard is fenced in so it's not like it's my fault his cat was in there. Plus, my wife had a talk with him last year about his cat and all but told him this was going to happen if he didn't keep her out of our yard but I don't think an "I told you so" is going to make the situation any better. His truck isn't in the drive so I'll have to wait to talk to him.

re: #190 RogueOne

also, that's one aggressive dog ><

re: #185 windsagio

Man, I would not want to date you!

I get that a lot but this time it isn't my fault. Usually when she takes off like that it's for the squirrel who lives in the tree next door. The squirrel will come down on my out building and wave its tail and bark at my dogs. It really gets my female going.

re: #182 RogueOne

I have a bit of a mess on my hands. I let my girl out without checking the backyard and she took off like a shot and snatched the neighbors outdoor cat. I yelled trying to stop her but she's fast and the cat didn't see her coming until it was too late. My first instinct was to bury it and keep my mouth shut but I'm thinking I'm going to have to tell him. This won't be fun.

Cats are wonderful pets. Outdoor cats are wonderful coyote food. Tell your neighbors about the Circle of Life.

re: #190 RogueOne

My yard is fenced in so it's not like it's my fault his cat was in there. Plus, my wife had a talk with him last year about his cat and all but told him this was going to happen if he didn't keep her out of our yard but I don't think an "I told you so" is going to make the situation any better. His truck isn't in the drive so I'll have to wait to talk to him.

Put it in a brown bag on his porch. Leave a note telling him you want money or there will be more to come.
//I'm sorry. I sometimes see life as a movie.

re: #191 windsagio

also, that's one aggressive dog ><

She's a hunter! She was a stray for awhile which doesn't help.

OT: Anyone wanna take some bets?

re: #190 RogueOne

Not saying it was your fault. Sounds like the neighbor wasn't really taking good care of their cat, it got in your yard. A case of "shit happens". Sucks to hear it and glad you are letting them know. I never understood the "outdoor cat" idea. That was just asking for a wild animal to get it or for it to be hit by a car.

re: #196 windsagio

OT: Anyone wanna take some bets?

LUAP NOR!!!!!

re: #182 RogueOne

Sucks that it happened, but I'd go with the honest approach and tell 'em that it happened. These things happen, and there's no sense in beating yourself up over it.

re: #188 lawhawk

The NWO's black helicopters dropped in their agents with a close-range experimental weapon that would amplify the Marfan syndrome to cause the sudden blowing of Osama Bin Laden's mind.

/

re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar

you oughtta be able to get good odds on that ><

re: #197 dreggas

Not saying it was your fault. Sounds like the neighbor wasn't really taking good care of their cat, it got in your yard. A case of "shit happens". Sucks to hear it and glad you are letting them know. I never understood the "outdoor cat" idea. That was just asking for a wild animal to get it or for it to be hit by a car.

There's actually a leash law for cats in town but it's never enforced.

re: #202 RogueOne

There's actually a leash law for cats in town but it's never enforced.

Take pics of the kitty corpse and run some print PSA'a for the leash law.
/

re: #202 RogueOne

one of the weird things that's changed so much in the last 20 years. I still remember really really clearly when most dogs AND cats were outside and let run freely. It's amazing how much safer the roads feel for a person walking or running now :D

re: #196 windsagio

OT: Anyone wanna take some bets?

I read this one yesterday:
Beyond Obama’s Bin Laden Bounce
[Link: fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com...]

I'm surprised the bounce wasn't any higher. I would have expected 10-15 pts.

re: #203 Cannadian Club Akbar

Take pics of the kitty corpse and run some print PSA'a for the leash law.
/

No need to spike the ball...

Shake it!

re: #204 windsagio

one of the weird things that's changed so much in the last 20 years. I still remember really really clearly when most dogs AND cats were outside and let run freely. It's amazing how much safer the roads feel for a person walking or running now :D

I have to plan my dog walking route around the other dogs in the neighborhood. There are lots of friendly dogs that aren't a problem but there's a few streets with some more aggressive dogs that are a fight waiting to happen. Easier to just avoid those houses.

re: #205 RogueOne

I'd missed tthat one, silver's always a good read.

He's way smarter than me, but the lack of a poll bounce is less than a surprise really, I think the main effect will be GOTV for all those damn kids (who mostly like him anyways, but might not have been motivated). Also I'll eat my hat if there's only a 60% chance of Obama winning 2012
re: #208 RogueOne

haah yeah >< Back when I was able to run, we'd actually plan our routes partially around that, or at least stop and pick up a nice big stick before we got to the mean dog houses. Better safe than sorry.

re: #200 lazardo

Did it look something like this:

re: #205 RogueOne

Those red and blue squiggles are pure conjecture. A lot can happen between now and the election, and any number of things we cannot foresee. But I would still bet on Obama winning at this point if I had to bet one way or another.

There were about 500 SEALs operating in Vietnam, and I've met 20,000 of them. Meet the former SEAL team member who's outed bogus SEAL team members.

re: #212 lawhawk

There were about 500 SEALs operating in Vietnam, and I've met 20,000 of them. Meet the former SEAL team member who's outed bogus SEAL team members.

While playing country music for a living, we had two different gentlemen come up and tell us at different times that they had written "Teen Angel" and sold the rights for $25 or $50...

I'm going to hit the gym at lunch and then hopefully go talk to my neighbor. Enjoy the rest of the day people!

re: #212 lawhawk

There were about 500 SEALs operating in Vietnam, and I've met 20,000 of them. Meet the former SEAL team member who's outed bogus SEAL team members.

Don Shipley was on my radio yesterday. Here is the audio.

Alrighty, gonna run. See ya'll tomorrow.:)

re: #216 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alrighty, gonna run. See ya'll tomorrow.:)

Walk

You'll still get there and you'll live longer

re: #216 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #217 sattv4u2

Walk

You'll still get there and you'll live longer

AND ,,, you'll enjoy the scenery more!!

re: #212 lawhawk

There were about 500 SEALs operating in Vietnam, and I've met 20,000 of them. Meet the former SEAL team member who's outed bogus SEAL team members.

It was also said that the British 2nd Parachute, which participated in the Falklands War, seemed to have about twelve times its actual numbers based on the fellows bragging about being members of it in bars.

re: #219 ralphieboy

It was also said that the British 2nd Parachute, which participated in the Falklands War, seemed to have about twelve times its actual numbers based on the fellows bragging about being members of it in bars.

For Ted Willams's last game, where he hit a home run in his last at bat there were about 12,000 people in the stands

Talk to fans and you;ll come up with about 150,000 that say they were there (for a ballpark that at the time seated about 32,00)

Hell, some that say they were there weren't even BORN yet

re: #219 ralphieboy

re: #220 sattv4u2

For Ted Willams's last game, where he hit a home run in his last at bat there were about 12,000 people in the stands

Talk to fans and you;ll come up with about 150,000 that say they were there (for a ballpark that at the time seated about 32,000)

Hell, some that say they were there weren't even BORN yet

pimf

Link to the AT&T T-Mobile merger hearing if anyone's interested.

[Link: judiciary.senate.gov...]

reine

Glad to "hear" you'll be out of harms way

I pray that there won't be too much damage and NO deaths

re: #118 RogueOne

The other shock in that story is the cheerleaders only make $100 a game. That's pathetic.

But she obviously wants to stay on very badly. So? Meh.

Remember when conservatives used to hail Irish economic policies as the model we should be following?
Irish Bombshell: Government Raids PRIVATE Pensions To Pay For Spending

daveweigel daveweigel

Re the Common controversy: If we're going to bring back the 90s culture wars, can we have that economy back too?

re: #226 Stanley Sea

What's funny is we're actually several steps beyond the '90s culture wars.

The more those guys lose, the more extreme they get.

Hello my scaly friends.

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Remember when conservatives used to hail Irish economic policies as the model we should be following?
Irish Bombshell: Government Raids PRIVATE Pensions To Pay For Spending

Ireland was the biggest bubble in Europe, worse than Greece. I remember being there when even a dumpy two-bedroom house was going for no less than the equivalent of $250K.

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Remember when conservatives used to hail Irish economic policies as the model we should be following?
Irish Bombshell: Government Raids PRIVATE Pensions To Pay For Spending

Yeah, because the one thing the conservatives are for is larger gov't

aimed at keeping government jobs spending from adding to the national debt.

Read more: [Link: www.businessinsider.com...]

re: #229 ralphieboy

It wasn't as big, but in terms of proportional scale, Iceland was even worse.

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Remember when conservatives used to hail Irish economic policies as the model we should be following?

No. When was that?

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

No. When was that?

During the Potato Famine.
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A Modest Proposal?

re: #232 NJDhockeyfan

No. When was that?

Here's a good, but incomplete, list:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Headline and story don't exactly match. The headline talks about raiding the pension, but the Irish plan is to tax the pensions.

Without the ability sell debt due to soaring interest rates, and with severe spending rules in place due to its EU-IMF bailout, Ireland has few ways of spending to stimulate the economy. Today's jobs program includes specific tax increases, including the tax on pensions, aimed at keeping government jobs spending from adding to the national debt.

The tax on private pensions will be 0.6%, and last for four years, according to the report.

re: #233 Alouette

During the Potato Famine.
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That poor starving family!!
[Link: www.google.com...]

hopefully the Mississippi has crested, at 49ft around Memphis and it's plowing it's way south...saw a pic the other day of a guy in water almost to his groin, seven miles from the river

re: #235 Obdicut

Here's a good, but incomplete, list:

[Link: thinkprogress.org...]

There you go, bringing facts into the argument again.

re: #236 lawhawk

AND ,,, a 0.6 percent tax isn't exactly onerous

re: #182 RogueOne
Imagine that. I'm having Chinese food for lunch, coincidence? I don't think so. Sorry about the kitty tho :(

re: #240 sattv4u2

AND ,,, a 0.6 percent tax isn't exactly onerous

'Tis the principle of the thing: it is the proverbial grasshopper taxing the ant to help it survive the winter. People who work and save to put things away are being taxed because politicians were too profligate.

re: #241 Shropshire_Slasher

Imagine that. I'm having Chinese food for lunch, coincidence? I don't think so. Sorry about the kitty tho :(

It's CATastrophic

(sorry ,, but someone had too)

re: #242 ralphieboy

'Tis the principle of the thing: it is the proverbial grasshopper taxing the ant to help it survive the winter. People who work and save to put things away are being taxed because politicians were too profligate.

See my italics in 230

re: #242 ralphieboy

And they're doing it instead of raising taxes on the corporations, after having given those corporations massive tax breaks. So taxes have moved from the corporations to individuals.

This is why racing to the bottom is goddamn stupid.

re: #243 sattv4u2

It's CATastrophic

(sorry ,, but someone had too)

a total cataclysm.

re: #243 sattv4u2

I'm going catonic with this

re: #246 dreggas

re: #247 Shropshire_Slasher

I stand and give you both apaws

Hedge fund trial finds Raj Rajaratnam guilty:

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

I'm so glad that we all understand the importance of regulating the financial sector.

re: #229 ralphieboy

Ireland was the biggest bubble in Europe, worse than Greece. I remember being there when even a dumpy two-bedroom house was going for no less than the equivalent of $250K.

I saw a documentary recently about the ghost town developments built at the hieght of the bubble. They have hundreds of house with only one or two families living there. It's pretty spooky.

re: #250 Killgore Trout

I saw a documentary recently about the ghost town developments built at the hieght of the bubble. They have hundreds of house with only one or two families living there. It's pretty spooky.

Think that's spooky......

[Link: www.sbs.com.au...]

re: #219 ralphieboy

It was also said that the British 2nd Parachute, which participated in the Falklands War, seemed to have about twelve times its actual numbers based on the fellows bragging about being members of it in bars.

What color is the boathouse at Hereford?

re: #250 Killgore Trout

I saw a documentary recently about the ghost town developments built at the hieght of the bubble. They have hundreds of house with only one or two families living there. It's pretty spooky.

Don't have to go as far away as Ireland to see that

There are large tracts of land out where I am that used to be estates and/ or farms that they started clearing and even building/ selling houses in only to have the construction come to a halt with empty lots, houses half (or less) built, and the ones that were "finished" being sold at a fraction of what they thought they would go for

I actually bought one last year and have a renter in there now

Hamas's Meshaal: U.S. had no right to kill bin Laden

Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said on Monday the United States had no right to kill Osama bin Laden but said this did not mean the Palestinian Islamist group supported al Qaeda's attacks on civilians.

..."Concerning bin Laden everyone knows Hamas has differences from al Qaeda ... especially (its) operations targeting civilians, but all this doesn't give the U.S. the right to kill as they please without any regard for the law and to assassinate Arabs and Muslims, blaming everything on them and accusing them of terrorism," Meshaal said in the France 24 interview.

..."The fact they disposed of his body at sea is unacceptable and has touched the dignity of Muslims," Meshaal said, speaking through an interpreter.

Terrorists hate it when their terrorist leader friends get whacked by the US, don't they?

Donald Trump headed back to the Jersey Shore for an Extreme Makeover after polls show that, while only yesterday he was Top Chef, today he has been voted off the island. Some Survivor he is. Even the Real Houswife of Wasilla is ahead of him in the polls.