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1 darthstar  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:10:45pm

I knew I should have turned off the web cam.

2 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:15:27pm

re: #1 darthstar

You bastard! You promised me you had.

3 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:19:25pm
4 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:21:45pm

I like the frilly shirt Godzilla is wearing.

5 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:22:59pm

haha, tweeps are using a hashtag #seeyouonMay22

7 albusteve  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:38:59pm

so jump out and push

8 sod  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:47:42pm

The Church: Swan Lake

9 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:51:18pm

There was a production of "Swan Lake, Minnesota" produced by Joseph Papp for PBS. No video of it seems to be available. The best bit was a shot of a tractor returning through the fields, with the classically-dressed body of the Swan draped over the fender.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

10 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:53:12pm

I've just been looking around the net.

Without a doubt, Ron and Rand Paul are lunatics.

11 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:54:56pm

re: #10 researchok

I've just been looking around the net.

Without a doubt, Ron and Rand Paul are lunatics.

I've just been looking around the net too. Unfortunately my travels led me to Miley Cyrus' mom's horrific tattoo.

You've got to be kidding me

12 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:57:13pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

I've just been looking around the net too. Unfortunately my travels led me to Miley Cyrus' mom's horrific tattoo.

You've got to be kidding me

White trash.

OK, so I'm not PC.

Tattoo me.

13 sod  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:59:01pm

She must be a wing nut.

14 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 6:59:39pm

re: #13 sod

She must be a wing nut.

That's the least of her problems.

15 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:00:13pm

re: #13 sod

She must be a wing nut.

You made me wonder how many Gadsden flags have been tattooed in the last couple.

16 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:02:38pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

The internet has everything:
[Link: www.gadsden.info...]

17 b_sharp  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:04:37pm
18 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:05:51pm

re: #16 jaunte

The internet has everything:
[Link: www.gadsden.info...]

o m g

19 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:07:13pm

re: #16 jaunte

The internet has everything:
[Link: www.gadsden.info...]

So sexy

20 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:07:14pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

One can find the damnedest things while surfing the net.

21 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:07:25pm

Ed DriscolL (subbing for instadolt)posts this bit on anti-neocon Paulian bullshit.....
Image: sgt_barack_5-12-11-big.jpg
Accompanied by a link to this: How Perpetual War Became U.S. Ideology

Since the last realist president, George H.W. Bush, left office, two groups— neoconservatives and liberal interventionists—have overtaken American foreign policy

22 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:07:32pm

re: #18 Stanley Sea

There's a lot of bad art out there; it's odd that so much of it is semi-permanent.

23 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:07:59pm

re: #16 jaunte

The internet has everything:
[Link: www.gadsden.info...]

Savor this- World's ugliest dresses

24 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:08:51pm

re: #23 researchok

Mine eyes have seen the glory [Link: ep.yimg.com...]

25 Four More Tears  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:09:44pm

re: #23 researchok

Savor this- World's ugliest dresses

I cannot unsee the Pregnant Prom Dress!

26 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:10:50pm

My contribution: Husband of the Year

27 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:11:38pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Late nite talk show host Craig Ferguson has this one.

28 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:12:10pm

re: #23 researchok

Savor this- World's ugliest dresses

How in the hell did you find that site before me I'll never know. But gracias.

29 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:13:03pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

How in the hell did you find that site before me I'll never know. But gracias.

My daughter sent me the link.

Kid scares me sometimes.

30 SpaceJesus  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:13:09pm

If anybody wants to leave this sanity break, there's a headline story on fox about confederate license plates in Florida, full of right wing neo-confed comedy.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

31 freetoken  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:18:59pm

Love the mixed musical metaphor stuff.

32 freetoken  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:20:05pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

There are a lot of stupid people in this world.

33 BishopX  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:21:06pm

Have the lizardim seen shit students write yet?

34 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:21:23pm

re: #32 freetoken

There are a lot of stupid people in this world.

You are a master of understatement.

35 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:22:05pm

Bin Laden wives reportedly 'hostile.'

No kidding?

36 freetoken  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:23:04pm

re: #21 Killgore Trout

It's all some revisionist history fantasy. This country has been in conflicts that used the military, even if not outright declared wars, for a significant portion of our 235 years. Yes, today with our professional military it's costing us more and we use bigger/faster weapons, but the idea that somehow the US was engagement-free in our past is fantasy.

37 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:23:33pm

re: #35 jaunte

Bin Laden wives reportedly 'hostile.'

No kidding?

Nothing the exhibition of 4 foot scimitar can't cure.

38 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:23:50pm

re: #37 researchok

Nothing the exhibition of 4 foot scimitar can't cure.


///

39 danhenry1  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:26:56pm

Poetry...water, fire, wind, dragons, dinosaurs, tiny guys, big guys. 'Common'...it brings out the best in us.
Fox News will hear about this, they will be all over Greg Holfeld.
Watch Cheney come out and say something bout it.
Thank you John McCain..for your service to our country.

40 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:28:01pm

re: #38 researchok


Osama bin Laden's wife has told interrogators she didn't venture outside the walled compound where the al Qaeda leader was killed for five years, a Pakistani military spokesman said Thursday.

The wife, who was wounded in the raid, said she lived in the compound in Abbottabad with eight of bin Laden's children and five others from another family[Link: ac360.blogs.cnn.com...]


That kind of life would pretty much guarantee an initial hostile reaction to any change.

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:28:17pm

re: #35 jaunte

Bin Laden wives reportedly 'hostile.'

No kidding?

From another article from that site:

In "The Osama bin Laden I Know", Peter Bergen spoke with Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir, who met bin Laden soon after the 9/11 attacks. Mir said bin Laden had told him that he had plans for his youngest daughter, Safiyah.

"I became a father of a girl after September 11," he said. "I named her after Safiyah who killed a Jewish spy at the time of the Prophet. (My daughter) will kill enemies of Islam like Safiyah."

Isn't it wonderful when dads have big dreams for their little girls.

//Oh, my.

42 Four More Tears  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:29:14pm

Really? 'Cause I did think it was pretty bad...

Japanese Reactor Damage Is Worse Than Expected

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:30:07pm

re: #40 jaunte

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

That kind of shit makes a man want to cry.

44 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:30:07pm

re: #40 jaunte

That kind of life would pretty much guarantee an initial hostile reaction to any change.

Truth is, they are all dysfunctional at this point.

Constant exposure to the broken ideologies, hate will have taken heir toll. Their fugitive status only exacerbated the problem.

45 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:30:37pm

re: #35 jaunte

Bin Laden wives reportedly 'hostile.'

No kidding?

Yeah, aren't they all?

46 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:31:53pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

For instance, take my wives. Please.

47 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:32:03pm

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

From another article from that site:

In "The Osama bin Laden I Know", Peter Bergen spoke with Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir, who met bin Laden soon after the 9/11 attacks. Mir said bin Laden had told him that he had plans for his youngest daughter, Safiyah.

"I became a father of a girl after September 11," he said. "I named her after Safiyah who killed a Jewish spy at the time of the Prophet. (My daughter) will kill enemies of Islam like Safiyah."

Isn't it wonderful when dads have big dreams for their little girls.

//Oh, my.

No one likes to say it, but after a certain amount time there are some things cannot be fixed.

48 danhenry1  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:32:15pm

Will we ever see Sarah on Rachel's show?. I'd pay to see that.

49 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:32:19pm

re: #47 researchok

Managed, but not fixed

50 Four More Tears  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:34:27pm

"I know exactly where you are. I know exactly what you are doing. Put your pants on and go home."

-- "Spiritual adviser" Tim Coe to Sen. John Ensign (R-NV), quoted in the Senate Ethics Committee report which accused Ensign of breaking laws trying to cover up his extramarital affair.

[Link: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com...]

51 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:37:52pm

Apparently North Korea has a hugely long series of little kids doing unison musical performances

they're kind of weird.

52 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:42:21pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

Yeah, aren't they all?

You just have to meet the right one:
Image: ThisBudsForYou.jpg

53 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:43:17pm

re: #50 JasonA

And I'm reminded why I took Sullivan off my favorites. He's an opponent of the Libyan Intervention because "it became illegal." I'm seeing what you people mean when calling him a nut.

I would say that, even if a law is being broken, it's for a good cause. Think of it as Jury Nullification.

54 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:45:36pm

re: #53 ProLifeLiberal

'we shouldn't do illegal things' is nutty? ><

55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:45:52pm

re: #53 ProLifeLiberal

All military intervention is illegal, especially the kind that is legally voted on.
/or something

56 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:46:30pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

If anybody wants to leave this sanity break, there's a headline story on fox about confederate license plates in Florida, full of right wing neo-confed comedy.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Good idea. I like it when they identify themselves.

57 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:47:01pm

Anywhere else in the world, I'd be impressed.

I wonder how much pressure the kids are under to perform and I wonder if their families depend on their kids performances for gain.

As in, 'Food'.

58 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:47:28pm

re: #57 researchok

yeah, just about... That's why its weird/creepy not just amazing.

59 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:48:13pm

re: #55 Slumbering Behemoth

It actually gets a bit blurry, when we have things like (safe example) the Gulf of Tonkin where the authorization to war was gotten under false pretenses.

60 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:48:59pm

re: #54 windsagio

His logic is that, if we don't put something in Congress by 60 days, we should up and leave. In case he hasn't noticed, the Republicans on the hill have no interest in doing things that are useful.

In any, Sullivan is someone who sympathizes and like Luap Nor. That's reason enough to call him a nut.

61 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:49:02pm

re: #58 windsagio

yeah, just about... That's why its weird/creepy not just amazing.

Agreed.

The word 'pathos' just came to mind.

Something tragic and hollow about it all.

62 freetoken  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:49:06pm

re: #42 JasonA

Yesterday TEPCO finally admitted that Fuk-1 unit 1 probably melted the rods so much that their remnants were sitting at the bottom of the container.

63 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:49:45pm

re: #60 ProLifeLiberal

haha, left libertarians are just as weird as the right ones >>

64 SpaceJesus  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:50:57pm

re: #30 SpaceJesus

"salinca [Moderator] 0 minutes ago

Racism regarding a flag? Some fools live to be perpetually offended. I'm offended by the 2 militant ebony power enthusiast who occupy the white house. I would never deny them the right to do a jig to a rap song, eat a melon, go fishing with a cane pole or drink a 40oz. That's their culture. Who am I to criticize it?"

Ah yes, "Red America"

65 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:51:32pm

re: #63 windsagio

Which is why I'm a Social Democrat. Government exists for a reason.

66 researchok  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:52:13pm

Manana, all.

Big dragons to slay tomorrow. Huge dragons.

Bureaucrats.

67 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:52:18pm

re: #65 ProLifeLiberal

as of lately I"m a pseudo-socialist, wondering how I ever got there ><

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:54:14pm

re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth

One can find the damnedest things while surfing the net.

BTW, Larry the Cable Guy has always been an act, not a real person.

Probably not news to anyone here, but it's news to me. I don't really follow the lives of celebrities the way most folk do.

69 SpaceJesus  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:55:03pm
"mambga [Moderator] 4 minutes ago
I'll support the south getting rid of the Rebel Flag when we equally get rid of Bl@ck History month or Martin Luther King Day. After all, there is no White History Month, no South Day, or Southern History Month for the south. Other people have special things the South doesn't, and people want them to get rid of the only symbol of heritage and history they have by claiming it specifically stands for slavery. Fair is fair. I'm sure they'll get rid of theirs, if everyone else gets rid of theirs...

If one can't symbolize their heritage, then NONE should symbolize their heritage.

It's called liberty. Get used to it."

4 people liked this.


ugh.

70 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:55:08pm

re: #48 danhenry1

Will we ever see Sarah on Rachel's show?. I'd pay to see that.

No. You will be able to keep your $.

71 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:57:50pm

re: #53 ProLifeLiberal

re: #60 ProLifeLiberal

Ah, I could be conflicted. But being it's OBL, I'm not. Crazy, but I'm a Regular American Human.

I understand the conflict. Hate the rage by the GlenGreenwaldbots though.

72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:57:54pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

Sarah doesn't have the requisite guts/balls/integrity (take your pick) to face off against Rachel.

73 danhenry1  Thu, May 12, 2011 7:59:57pm

She'd be eaten alive

74 andres  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:00:23pm

re: #36 freetoken

It's all some revisionist history fantasy. This country has been in conflicts that used the military, even if not outright declared wars, for a significant portion of our 235 years. Yes, today with our professional military it's costing us more and we use bigger/faster weapons, but the idea that somehow the US was engagement-free in our past is fantasy.

Tell Spain, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam and Philippines about it!

75 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:00:28pm

re: #69 SpaceJesus

ugh.

You are in effect, gaining ammo by reading this shit.

76 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:03:06pm

re: #72 Slumbering Behemoth

Sarah doesn't have the requisite guts/balls/integrity (take your pick) to face off against Rachel.

Or anyone other than Fox for that matter. We will see.

I think she's going to run, and DAMN if this blog is going to go off.

77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:03:37pm

re: #73 danhenry1

She'd be eaten alive

From what I have observed of Rachel, I imagine she would be respectful but firm.

Perhaps not eaten alive, but certainly not given a break or an easy out.

78 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:04:09pm

re: #23 researchok

Savor this- World's ugliest dresses

I'm almost afraid to look. I'm pretty sure my senior prom dress would qualify, since it was teal. Hahaha.

79 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:09:46pm

re: #74 andres

Tell Spain, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam and Philippines about it!


The few gaps might be filled by a little digging.

US Military Casualties by Year
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

80 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:10:43pm

Oh god. This is awkward. I had an interview last Friday for an internship, but had to reschedule at the last minute because I was busy puking my guts out that morning due to school-related stress and bad food. I asked the guy if we could reschedule and never heard back. I assumed that because we'd been playing tag for ages and had scheduling snafus before that he'd written me off and that would be that.

On Monday, I got a last minute offer to come in for an interview with a different company. I went there yesterday and walked out with a job. Now the first guy just emailed me tonight to ask if I had time to meet him tomorrow. I have no idea how to handle this. What do I even say?

81 sagehen  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:10:53pm

re: #50 JasonA

"I know exactly where you are. I know exactly what you are doing. Put your pants on and go home."

-- "Spiritual adviser" Tim Coe to Sen. John Ensign (R-NV), quoted in the Senate Ethics Committee report which accused Ensign of breaking laws trying to cover up his extramarital affair.

[Link: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com...]

Rachel went to town on that story tonight; she has tons and tons of details, Ex-Sen Ensign is way sleazier than we even knew. For instance, the "affair" may not have been entirely consensual on Mrs Hampton's part...

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:11:12pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

As we have seen for some time, there was an obvious reason why the McCain campaign kept Sarah from making too many public statements.

83 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:12:27pm

re: #80 Lidane

Go ahead and meet with him. It's good to be seen by a lot of people, and you can keep your employment status to yourself; see what he has to say.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:13:02pm

re: #47 researchok

No one likes to say it, but after a certain amount time there are some things cannot be fixed.

For some reason, I'm thinking of that new weird movie with Saoirse Ronan.

85 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:13:28pm

re: #80 Lidane

Oh god. This is awkward. I had an interview last Friday for an internship, but had to reschedule at the last minute because I was busy puking my guts out that morning due to school-related stress and bad food. I asked the guy if we could reschedule and never heard back. I assumed that because we'd been playing tag for ages and had scheduling snafus before that he'd written me off and that would be that.

On Monday, I got a last minute offer to come in for an interview with a different company. I went there yesterday and walked out with a job. Now the first guy just emailed me tonight to ask if I had time to meet him tomorrow. I have no idea how to handle this. What do I even say?

Tell him you've already accepted another offer. He'll understand, if he was really interested he would have called back sooner. His loss.

86 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:13:39pm

re: #80 Lidane

You say what you just said, prefaced with "Sorry" and ending with "I'm sure I would have loved working with you". It's really not personal.

87 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:14:43pm

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth

As we have seen for some time, there was an obvious reason why the McCain campaign kept Sarah from making too many public statements.

If she runs the shit is going to hit the fan. We will be in for the wildest election season ever. Newt is basing his life on running, so is his wifey #3. They will spare nothing.

Popcorn.

88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:16:10pm

Gosh y'all are smart. And no, I'm not being snarky or sarcastic. This is a good place to get advice.

89 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:16:33pm

re: #88 Slumbering Behemoth

Free! Worth price charged/

90 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:17:46pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Not to mention what actually happened to or in the Maine that night so long ago will always be a mystery. I remember a NatGeo article years ago looking at the evidence and concluding a mine or accident could have caused it.

The US goes to war. Often. A list of US military actions (on Wiki) shows that a vast majority of our history is war.

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:18:13pm

re: #89 jaunte

I've seen better free advice given here than in most places, including within my own family.

92 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:18:44pm

re: #87 Stanley Sea

If she runs the shit is going to hit the fan. We will be in for the wildest election season ever. Newt is basing his life on running, so is his wifey #3. They will spare nothing.

Popcorn.

I want Caribou Barbie to declare that she's running. Tina Fey will be getting a massive pay raise once that happens, and I fully support that plan. Heh.

93 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:19:56pm

It's nice to have some time off from politics. Had to engage with my cousin on facebook since he was being a total moonbat and I don't use that term lightly being you know a crescent moonbat myself :).

94 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:20:15pm

re: #90 ProLifeLiberal

Not to mention what actually happened to or in the Maine that night so long ago will always be a mystery. I remember a NatGeo article years ago looking at the evidence and concluding a mine or accident could have caused it.

The US goes to war. Often. A list of US military actions (on Wiki) shows that a vast majority of our history is war.

As children in Pgh we used to slide through the bow torpedo tube of the USS Maine. It was recovered and set up as a monument.

95 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:21:35pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

Cool tube. [Link: www.latinamericanstudies.org...]

96 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:22:09pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

Damn it, I wish I could have done that. I'm too big for that today.

97 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:22:48pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

As children in Pgh we used to slide through the bow torpedo tube of the USS Maine. It was recovered and set up as a monument.

Now, that's what I call living history.

98 danhenry1  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:23:10pm

We are a Great Nation. We have not always been a good nation. We are still an experiment of what we can 'get our minds around'. I don't really know what that means exactly, but it kind of reflects what our country is all about.
We can do whatever may be in our nations self interest, or we can work to do something that, I think we have all been taught..'leave a place better than you found it", I don't think they are at all exclusive of one another.
I would like to think that a major reason for our efforts in Afghanistan right now, though not the original reason, are to protect and advance the rights of Women, in a very archaic society. To me, it is one of the only moral reasons that we should be there. That expands into dialog with Islam, to further these goals.
I just don't want a world where the far right Christian movement, intersects somehow with Israel, and has a 'Hurry Sundown', affect.
IE: If your religious beliefs are pointed toward something above, then stop looking at ancient sites as some fucking thing that will bring us all to extinction.
jeesh

99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:23:59pm

re: #95 jaunte

8HW

'80s Haircut Warning.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:24:14pm

re: #54 windsagio

'we shouldn't do illegal things' is nutty? ><

He's now backed off to "I guess "illegal" is too blanket a term."

He's putting his finger on a valid problem, but it's not going to get solved this week, it's one that's been developing for quite some time.

101 freetoken  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:26:55pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

Well said.

102 danhenry1  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:26:58pm

re: #80 Lidane
totally agree. Go enjoy your new position, and celebrate.

103 freetoken  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:28:05pm

In case anyone missed Dawkin's comment in WaPo on Camping, here it is:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

[...] So, the question becomes, why are there so many well-heeled, gullible idiots out there?

Hits the nail right on the head.

104 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:28:14pm

Look at the Libyan Live Blog for the amazing technological improvements Britain has made. This refers to the 5:27 and 5:35 Updates for tomorrow (AJE Live Blog goes by the local time in conflict zone).

105 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:35:12pm

re: #95 jaunte

Cool tube. [Link: www.latinamericanstudies.org...]

Very good history site under the photos--seems comprehensive.

106 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:37:40pm

re: #103 freetoken

Indeed, a very good question. Not sure what the answer is.

107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:39:31pm

Godzirra?

Did not see that coming.

Lovely animation though.

Bambi was still better.

108 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:39:54pm

re: #69 SpaceJesus

ugh.

"mambga [Moderator] 4 minutes ago
I'll support the south getting rid of the Rebel Flag when we equally get rid of Bl@ck History month or Martin Luther King Day. After all, there is no White History Month, no South Day, or Southern History Month for the south. Other people have special things the South doesn't, and people want them to get rid of the only symbol of heritage and history they have by claiming it specifically stands for slavery. Fair is fair. I'm sure they'll get rid of theirs, if everyone else gets rid of theirs...

Hmmm. 'The only symbol of heritage and history they have.'

I'm not a Southerner, but...uh...THERE ARE SHITLOADS OF THEM!!! JESUS!!! The South is a hugely historical region which produced an entirely unfair number of our greatest politicians, explorers, artists, food and music. VIRGINIA ALONE PRODUCED George Washington, Henry Clay, Thomas Jefferson, Sam Houston, Patrick Henry, James Madison, John Marshall, Lewis AND Clark, Nat Turner, Booker T. Washington, Ella Fitzgerald, and Tom Wolfe, but you go right ahead shivering with your Confederate flag draped around you, and sniffle that you haven't GOT any heritage, and other people have special things the South doesn't.

Or, get the hell over yourself, and show a healthy pride in things normal people are proud of. Like having produced George Washington, Henry Clay, Thomas Jefferson...

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:40:16pm

re: #72 Slumbering Behemoth

Sarah doesn't have the requisite guts/balls/integrity (take your pick) to face off against Rachel.

Which is a pity, because it would be one hell of a picnic.

110 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:41:00pm

re: #105 Decatur Deb

The Maine's parts really got scattered: [Link: www.spanamwar.com...]

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:41:55pm

re: #103 freetoken

I forgot who said it... but...

"Outside" is the reason why mankind has spent thousands of years trying to perfect "inside".

112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:43:35pm

re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist

May God continue to pour his blessings upon you.
-Virginian

113 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:44:00pm

re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist

Hmmm. 'The only symbol of heritage and history they have.'

I'm not a Southerner, but...uh...THERE ARE SHITLOADS OF THEM!!! JESUS!!! The South is a hugely historical region which produced an entirely unfair number of our greatest politicians, explorers, artists, food and music.

I AM a Southerner (well, sort of -- Texas did fight in the Confederacy, after all) and that kind of crap is both nauseating and tedious. I get so aggravated when people act like the Rebel flag is the only thing that has any historical value from the South.

It's obnoxious when people are still fighting the Civil War after 150 goddamn years. We need to ditch all that and find something better to latch on to.

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:44:49pm

re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist

I hit my dinger really hard there. Alas, it still only shows as one ding.

115 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:44:55pm

re: #104 ProLifeLiberal

Look at the Libyan Live Blog for the amazing technological improvements Britain has made. This refers to the 5:27 and 5:35 Updates for tomorrow (AJE Live Blog goes by the local time in conflict zone).

Small bombs with laser guidance. We have the same systems. The RAF uses them well.

116 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:45:04pm

re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist

"mambga [Moderator] 4 minutes ago
I'll support the south getting rid of the Rebel Flag when we equally get rid of Bl@ck History month or Martin Luther King Day. After all, there is no White History Month, no South Day, or Southern History Month for the south. Other people have special things the South doesn't, and people want them to get rid of the only symbol of heritage and history they have by claiming it specifically stands for slavery. Fair is fair. I'm sure they'll get rid of theirs, if everyone else gets rid of theirs...

Hmmm. 'The only symbol of heritage and history they have.'

I'm not a Southerner, but...uh...THERE ARE SHITLOADS OF THEM!!! JESUS!!! The South is a hugely historical region which produced an entirely unfair number of our greatest politicians, explorers, artists, food and music. VIRGINIA ALONE PRODUCED George Washington, Henry Clay, Thomas Jefferson, Sam Houston, Patrick Henry, James Madison, John Marshall, Lewis AND Clark, Nat Turner, Booker T. Washington, Ella Fitzgerald, and Tom Wolfe, but you go right ahead shivering with your Confederate flag draped around you, and sniffle that you haven't GOT any heritage, and other people have special things the South doesn't.

Or, get the hell over yourself, and show a healthy pride in things normal people are proud of. Like having produced George Washington, Henry Clay, Thomas Jefferson...

It's stupid is what it is and I Say that as someone who's lived in Virginia my whole life. WE have a lot of great historical figures. Why do we need to celebrate the Confederacy? Let's celebrate all the names you mentioned.

117 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:46:02pm

re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist

You more than adequately put the lie to the whole "Confederate Flag is about heritage" meme.

Well done.

118 danhenry1  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:46:42pm

It is all due to the song.

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:46:48pm

re: #113 Lidane

I AM a Southerner (well, sort of -- Texas did fight in the Confederacy, after all) and that kind of crap is both nauseating and tedious. I get so aggravated when people act like the Rebel flag is the only thing that has any historical value from the South.

It's obnoxious when people are still fighting the Civil War after 150 goddamn years. We need to ditch all that and find something better to latch on to.

Kentucky was a Union state, come to that. I wonder how they feel being told they're represented as Southerners by the flag of a defeated army they didn't even back.

I also like how 'Southerners' are pitted against 'Blacks' in this guy's whine. I understand some few, rare souls are both.

//

120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:46:50pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I'm in Roanoke. Where are you? (if you don't mind me asking)

If you do mind? Totally cool too.

121 avanti  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:46:55pm

Hot Air and other wingnut blogs are picking up this "story" about a High School withdrawing its invite to Obama.

Stories SD on the QT - Almost Factual News

Schooled!

High Tech High Students Expose Flaws in Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate, Rescind Invitation for President to Speak at Commencement "

Birther.

A google search shows the right loves the story.

122 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:47:17pm

I said it last night but neo confederates are banking on the person they're talking with doesn't understand the history. You can make them look down right foolish if you show them the actual history.

123 What, me worry?  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:47:21pm

re: #103 freetoken

In case anyone missed Dawkin's comment in WaPo on Camping, here it is:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Hits the nail right on the head.

Whatever the reason, it's probably the same reason people join cults. It's also kinda funny he's writing in the "On Faith" section of the paper. He's not all that faith-y!

But now that you know that May 21 is the end of the world, try to look surprised.

124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:47:28pm

re: #113 Lidane

It's obnoxious when people are still fighting the Civil War after 150 goddamn years. We need to ditch all that and find something better to latch on to.

I vote we make that something "free porn".

125 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:48:26pm

re: #120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm in Roanoke. Where are you? (if you don't mind me asking)

If you do mind? Totally cool too.

I go to school in FAirfax (GMU) but when I am at home, out past Leesburg in Loudoun. Probably looking at Arlington or Alexandria after graduation since I want to work in DC.

126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:48:44pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth

There's Pr0n?

127 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:49:14pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth

Coincidentally, the #1 answer for "What's better than celebrating Jefferson Davis' Birthday?"

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:49:46pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Ah, geeze... Fuckin' children.
/

129 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:49:51pm

The United States wouldn't have any MUSIC if it weren't for the South. We'd still all be dancing minuets and singing sol/fa hymns or something.

130 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:50:17pm

re: #126 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And it's freaking free! Is this a beautiful time to be alive or what?

131 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:50:46pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ah, geeze... Fuckin' children.
/

Haha hey now. Don't be hating.

132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:51:01pm

re: #127 jaunte

Coincidentally, the #1 answer for "What's better than celebrating Jefferson Davis' Birthday?"

Oh hell.

Let me guess. I haven't heard this.

NOT CELEBRATING JEFFERSON DAVIS' BIRTHDAY.

133 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:52:34pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

Kentucky was a Union state, come to that. I wonder how they feel being told they're represented as Southerners by the flag of a defeated army they didn't even back.

I also like how 'Southerners' are pitted against 'Blacks' in this guy's whine. I understand some few, rare souls are both.

//

I saw a lot of confederate flags when I was near Gettysburg and Antietam when I went to those battlefield sites. I thought that was interesting considering that the forefathers of those people were diehard unionists. THe coolest Gettysburg story I know is of an old, 70 year old veteran of the war of 1812 who got his musket and joined the fighting.

134 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:52:42pm

re: #108 SanFranciscoZionist

"mambga [Moderator] 4 minutes ago
I'll support the south getting rid of the Rebel Flag when we equally get rid of Bl@ck History month or Martin Luther King Day. After all, there is no White History Month, no South Day, or Southern History Month for the south. Other people have special things the South doesn't, and people want them to get rid of the only symbol of heritage and history they have by claiming it specifically stands for slavery. Fair is fair. I'm sure they'll get rid of theirs, if everyone else gets rid of theirs...

Hmmm. 'The only symbol of heritage and history they have.'

I'm not a Southerner, but...uh...THERE ARE SHITLOADS OF THEM!!! JESUS!!! The South is a hugely historical region which produced an entirely unfair number of our greatest politicians, explorers, artists, food and music. VIRGINIA ALONE PRODUCED George Washington, Henry Clay, Thomas Jefferson, Sam Houston, Patrick Henry, James Madison, John Marshall, Lewis AND Clark, Nat Turner, Booker T. Washington, Ella Fitzgerald, and Tom Wolfe, but you go right ahead shivering with your Confederate flag draped around you, and sniffle that you haven't GOT any heritage, and other people have special things the South doesn't.

Or, get the hell over yourself, and show a healthy pride in things normal people are proud of. Like having produced George Washington, Henry Clay, Thomas Jefferson...

And well gee - there's one huge symbol of heritage and history we have - the US flag and US history. Good grief. That person seems to have forgotten that . . .

135 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:53:07pm

re: #129 SanFranciscoZionist

The United States wouldn't have any MUSIC if it weren't for the South. We'd still all be dancing minuets and singing sol/fa hymns or something.

Ahem. Look up 'Moravian Brotherhood' (not Muslim Brotherhood). Excellent American Baroque.

136 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:53:18pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

I also like how 'Southerners' are pitted against 'Blacks' in this guy's whine. I understand some few, rare souls are both.

//

That guy has clearly never seen a population map of the South during the war:

Image: earliestoriginalslavechart.jpg

137 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:54:12pm

re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's a very specific fetish: [Link: cwmemory.com...]

138 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:54:15pm

re: #129 SanFranciscoZionist

Careful now, you may end up rocking the "southerners suck" boat.
/kidding

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:54:30pm

re: #118 danhenry1

It is all due to the song.

Which one?

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:56:33pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

My great-great Grandfather died at Antietam. I shit you not.

141 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:56:41pm

re: #138 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful now, you may end up rocking the "southerners suck" boat.
/kidding

Naw!
SFZ's complaint is against one specific idiot, who refers to southerners as "they", so I assume the idiot is not a southerner himself.

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:57:33pm

re: #141 reine.de.tout

I know, just being goofy.

143 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:57:47pm

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My great-great Grandfather died at Antietam. I shit you not.

I believe ya. I think one of mine was there too. I've seen his discharge papers. Pretty sure he was discharged right after Chancellorsville.

144 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:57:55pm

re: #136 Lidane

I commented on this before, but check out Ron Paul's and Joe 'You Lie' Wilson's Congressional districts on that map.

145 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 12, 2011 8:59:11pm

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My great-great Grandfather died at Antietam. I shit you not.

My great great grandfather - was still in Germany at the time.

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:00:31pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

I saw a lot of confederate flags when I was near Gettysburg and Antietam when I went to those battlefield sites. I thought that was interesting considering that the forefathers of those people were diehard unionists. THe coolest Gettysburg story I know is of an old, 70 year old veteran of the war of 1812 who got his musket and joined the fighting.

Apparently the woman whose daughter established Mother's Day was an activist who worked to bring people from different sides together after the Civil War and work toward peace and forgiveness. Veterans, parents of the dead. It was a really hard time in so many ways.

I'm researching a piece of historical fiction I want to write now that's set in the mid/late 1870s, and I'm constantly having to remind myself how much the war must still have hung over the country, and affected individual's lives.

147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:00:58pm

Got a question, y'all. Can't think of how to google it.

My sister's birthday is tomorrow. May 13. Friday the 13.

She'll be fifty three (born 1958).

How many of her birthdays have fallen on Friday the 13?

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:01:05pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

And well gee - there's one huge symbol of heritage and history we have - the US flag and US history. Good grief. That person seems to have forgotten that . . .

Yeah, but he has to share that one with everyone, which seems to be the problem.

149 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:01:47pm

re: #144 jaunte

I commented on this before, but check out Ron Paul's and Joe 'You Lie' Wilson's Congressional districts on that map.

Yep. Also check out the distribution of Southern Obama voters in 2008:

[Link: elections.nytimes.com...]

Click on the "County leaders" tab on the left and compare those results to the slavery map from the 1860's. Notice any similarities?

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:02:14pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Ahem. Look up 'Moravian Brotherhood' (not Muslim Brotherhood). Excellent American Baroque.

Well, OK. But really. Without the American South, and its unique blend of musical traditions, what happens to music in the twentieth century? Would have been different for damn sure.

151 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:03:18pm

re: #121 avanti

Hot Air and other wingnut blogs are picking up this "story" about a High School withdrawing its invite to Obama.

Stories SD on the QT - Almost Factual News

Schooled!

High Tech High Students Expose Flaws in Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate, Rescind Invitation for President to Speak at Commencement "

Birther.

A google search shows the right loves the story.

BULLSHIT. I live here. They were very very saddened they were not selected for this visit.

Gah, it's called propaganda folks. Wonder how the history books will write all this up. PravdaUSA.

152 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:03:25pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently the woman whose daughter established Mother's Day was an activist who worked to bring people from different sides together after the Civil War and work toward peace and forgiveness. Veterans, parents of the dead. It was a really hard time in so many ways.

I'm researching a piece of historical fiction I want to write now that's set in the mid/late 1870s, and I'm constantly having to remind myself how much the war must still have hung over the country, and affected individual's lives.

Interesting I had no idea. Historical fiction though cool. I read The Age of Innocence which is set in that time period you're talking about. For me, I want to write a historical novel set immediately following one of the two World Wars. I imagine the war still had a big effect over the lives of people i nteh 1870's which is right around when my great grandparents on my dad's side were born and they with few exceptions were the first Americans in their family. Plus as you know reconstruction only officially ended in 1876.

153 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:03:39pm

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, OK. But really. Without the American South, and its unique blend of musical traditions, what happens to music in the twentieth century? Would have been different for damn sure.

The Irish would have filled in. We have the hardest-working bands.

154 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:04:33pm

re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This reference only goes back to '77. Good place to start, maybe?

155 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:04:39pm

Mike Rowe Speaks To Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee


Stick with it, I found it worth the wait.
Namaste, y'all
156 jaunte  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:04:54pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm researching a piece of historical fiction I want to write now that's set in the mid/late 1870s, and I'm constantly having to remind myself how much the war must still have hung over the country, and affected individual's lives.


You may already have seen this site, but it's a good resource:
Letters Home From The Civil War
[Link: www.civilwararchive.com...]

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:06:06pm

re: #136 Lidane

That guy has clearly never seen a population map of the South during the war:

Image: earliestoriginalslavechart.jpg

Saving that. I was looking at where the black population is densest, and realizing that you could pretty much work out much of the geography of the region, without knowing it, based on that chart and a little knowledge of the agricultural economy of the day.

Some poor kids are going to sweat over that next time I get to teach US history.

158 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:06:16pm

re: #156 jaunte

You may already have seen this site, but it's a good resource:
Letters Home From The Civil War
[Link: www.civilwararchive.com...]

Cool resource. I used first hand letters from German soldiers during WWI to write a paper on WWI last fall. The experience of the paper inspired me to write a poem as if I were a doughboy in the trenches.

159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:06:26pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I believe ya. I think one of mine was there too. I've seen his discharge papers. Pretty sure he was discharged right after Chancellorsville.

Mine was... uh... dispatched more than discharged.

160 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:07:03pm

Apparently, Mitt's not feeling the teabagger/wingnut demands that he apologize for Romneycare:

Mitt Romney Rejects Demands To Apologize For Health Care Plan

161 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:07:20pm

re: #153 Decatur Deb

The Irish would have filled in. We have the hardest-working bands.

Wait for the Midnight Hour

[Link: www.google.com...]

162 Stanghazi  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:08:41pm

re: #123 marjoriemoon

Whatever the reason, it's probably the same reason people join cults. It's also kinda funny he's writing in the "On Faith" section of the paper. He's not all that faith-y!

But now that you know that May 21 is the end of the world, try to look surprised.

Twitter tag #SeeyouonMay22

ha

163 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:08:42pm

re: #160 Lidane

Apparently, Mitt's not feeling the teabagger/wingnut demands that he apologize for Romneycare:

Mitt Romney Rejects Demands To Apologize For Health Care Plan

And that is wht he won't be nomianted. Mitt is trending a dangerous line here. I am positive the reason he was one of the few that didn't engage in birther crap was because of his own father being Mexican born. Mitt is smart enough to know he needs the center and running away from health care reform isn't going to help.

164 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:08:56pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

I meant the fact that, within 8 minutes of the announcement, the rebels and police equipment. Apparently, the British learned how to teleport things.

165 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:10:14pm

Also while searching Friday the 13th...

Friday the 13th, judgment day, planets align — all in May

If you’re a superstitious person...

"If", you say? Why, I would say that it down right requires it.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:10:46pm

re: #138 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful now, you may end up rocking the "southerners suck" boat.
/kidding

The South is socially and historically remarkable. A lot of history, good and bad, and the bad is BAAAD. But all fascinating, and very essential to what America is.

(I was once at a dreadful teacher's education workshop where some dingbat woman was going on about how she had her high schoolers research their families' heritage, and it was terrible, because the black kids didn't UNDERSTAND, and thought their families were FROM Alabama or wherever. She wanted them to talk about Africa. We had a rowdy-dow in which I ranted about the enormous historical and cultural significance of the South to California's black communities, and asked pointedly how many white kids in her class could trace their ancestry back three hundred and fifty years in this essay. It was bad. I was basically told off by everyone.)

167 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:11:10pm

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My great-great Grandfather died at Antietam. I shit you not.

I'm very sorry for your loss.

(Anyone here a Sharyn McCrumb fan, speaking of Southerners?)

168 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:11:41pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Mike Rowe Speaks To Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee

[Video]
Stick with it, I found it worth the wait.
Namaste, y'all

This was great.
And so true.

169 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:12:07pm

ProLifeLiberal, this one's for you:

Expats leave good life behind to join Libyan revolution

Benghazi, Libya (CNN) -- Twenty-eight-year-old Bashir says he used to have an idyllic life: A well-paid job as a software developer, good friends and comfortable surroundings in Canada.

"I'm a guy who smokes, listens to rock and roll, and enjoys my life," he says.

Now he's sleeping in a tent, eating rationed food and learning to shoot a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG), among other weapons, in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi in Libya.

Bashir is originally from the capitol Tripoli. His family members still live there. He is one of several men in a newly formed fighting unit made up of others who decided to return to their homeland to fight against Moammar Gadhafi's regime.

The drastic decision to leave his comfortable life in Canada was prompted by the bloody images he was seeing on the news every night.

"I tried to stay there and live with it, just to send money or collect donations and go and protest and stuff. But I realized that that's not enough. And I could not sleep; I could not work."

Bashir has no trouble working now and he says he has a lot to learn. For one thing he's never held a gun before. He is one of more than 85 men, many from abroad, who now live together, train together and pray together on a walled piece of property loaned to them by a rebel supporter.

The man they agreed to make Commander, Mahedi, has come in from Ireland. Some of the others say they arrived from France, Greece, Poland, Italy, and Spain. None have previous military experience so they are being trained by older men in Benghazi who do.

Interestingly, they're carrying FN rifles, rather than AKs.

170 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:13:17pm

'Nite, all.

171 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:13:21pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

I believe ya. I think one of mine was there too. I've seen his discharge papers. Pretty sure he was discharged right after Chancellorsville.

A couple of years ago, I assumed I had no one in the country before 1890 or so, but we've recently learned that the English/Dutch/German quarter of the family actually appears to go back to the earliest New England colonies, and then headed south to New York. I've been meaning to find out more about the Civil War connection. All I have right now is a comment that one couple moved at one point because they wanted to raise the kids in a free state.

172 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:13:44pm

On the subject of fiction, I guess it's because I've only recently gotten in to reading fiction since I've become an English minor but I find it tough to name characters. I also find it all too tempting to be autobiographical with my protagonists. The idea of a story about a return serviceman from WWI or WWII or even Korea is something appeals to me though. The idea of re-adjusting to society after years away from home is something that appeals to me.

173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:13:54pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

This reference only goes back to '77. Good place to start, maybe?


Thanks. I'm trying to scare her and tell her that her Seventh Friday 13th birthday was the expiration on her birth certificate. But it might have to be the 13th Friday the 13th.

This is just one of the fun parts of being a sibling; Trying to find a way to frighten your adult sister about her upcoming death.

174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:15:33pm

re: #167 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm very sorry for your loss.

How kind. But, he might've been a huge ass. I'll never know.

175 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:15:47pm

re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got a question, y'all. Can't think of how to google it.

My sister's birthday is tomorrow. May 13. Friday the 13.

She'll be fifty three (born 1958).

How many of her birthdays have fallen on Friday the 13?

Wikipedia has this, which might help:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

176 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:16:15pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Interesting I had no idea. Historical fiction though cool. I read The Age of Innocence which is set in that time period you're talking about. For me, I want to write a historical novel set immediately following one of the two World Wars. I imagine the war still had a big effect over the lives of people i nteh 1870's which is right around when my great grandparents on my dad's side were born and they with few exceptions were the first Americans in their family. Plus as you know reconstruction only officially ended in 1876.

The piece is set in California, and two of the main characters grew up there, but the third is from the East originally, and her parents were active abolitionists. Very interesting research. (My mother thinks she must have been at that party that Matthew Broderick is at in the opening scenes of Glory).

177 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:16:45pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

This makes me very happy. These are people fighting for a just cause. I do wish we had the Lincoln Brigade idea from the past here now.

178 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:17:07pm

re: #153 Decatur Deb

The Irish would have filled in. We have the hardest-working bands.

And remember...the Irish are the blacks of Europe. And the Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northsiders are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud...

179 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:17:53pm
180 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:18:53pm

re: #162 Stanley Sea

Twitter tag #SeeyouonMay22

ha

I've been invited to a May 22 party.

181 Kragar  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:20:34pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

I've been invited to a May 22 party.

I'm getting blitzed on the 21st

182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:21:01pm

re: #175 Lidane

Nice, but my Sister is OLD.

Sometimes it is cool to be the kid brother.

183 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:21:19pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Genius. Well put and without a single hint of anti-intellectualism that too often comes with discussions about skilled, hard working, blue collar Americans. I'd vote for him.

184 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:22:45pm

re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist

The piece is set in California, and two of the main characters grew up there, but the third is from the East originally, and her parents were active abolitionists. Very interesting research. (My mother thinks she must have been at that party that Matthew Broderick is at in the opening scenes of Glory).

That's neat. See, I want to set my in an industrial city on the east coast. Make the characters either immigrants themselves or the children of them. The reason I want to write in the post WWI setting is that I fell in love with HBO's Boardwalk Empire and I read some of my grandmother's writings and she grew up in the late 1910's and 20's. And I can't help but to think of Kelly MacDonald's, Mrs. Schroder character when I read about my great grandmother. IT's the Irish thing.

185 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:24:14pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

On the subject of fiction, I guess it's because I've only recently gotten in to reading fiction since I've become an English minor but I find it tough to name characters. I also find it all too tempting to be autobiographical with my protagonists. The idea of a story about a return serviceman from WWI or WWII or even Korea is something appeals to me though. The idea of re-adjusting to society after years away from home is something that appeals to me.

For first names, Social Security has a record of the top 1000 baby names recorded in the United States for every year after 1880. (I also found a list of early Mt. Holyoke women's given names which I am using shamelessly, as it gives a delightful cross-section of names given to college girls born between 1820 and 1850. Some charming old-fashioned things.)

186 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:24:24pm

re: #179 Lidane

Ooh. The Ensign investigation is getting fun:

REPORT: Sen. Tom Coburn Actively Negotiated Multi-Million Dollar Hush Money Package For Ensign’s Mistress

Oh Tommy boy, the pipes are calling, tis you, tis you.

187 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:25:06pm

re: #177 ProLifeLiberal

This makes me very happy. These are people fighting for a just cause. I do wish we had the Lincoln Brigade idea from the past here now.

I don't. Those people were either Communists or Communist-supporters. Libya has a chance to avoid tyranny entirely, whereas had the Lincoln Brigades won, Stalin would have seen them purged to eliminate any potential rivals.

188 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:25:40pm

re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist

As you wish...

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:25:43pm

re: #174 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How kind. But, he might've been a huge ass. I'll never know.

Unless you can find a vampire...anyone seen the scene in True Blood where the Civil War veteran vampire agrees to address a meeting of The Descendents of the Glorious Dead?

"Mama, he's so white."

"No honey. We're white. He's dead."

190 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:25:56pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Oh Tommy boy, the pipes are calling, tis you, tis you.

Nope. He said he would only serve two terms in the Senate and he's in his second. So this can't hurt him much.

191 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:26:47pm

re: #181 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm getting blitzed on the 21st

Me too. Wait, is there a special occasion or something.

192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:27:16pm

Figured it out. This will be her eighth, Friday the 13th Birthday.

Sort of a mutant leap year baby.

193 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:27:57pm

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

I'm thinking of the Lincoln Brigades in Spain that fought on the side of the Spanish Republicans against Franco's Nationalists.

194 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:29:44pm

re: #193 ProLifeLiberal

I'm thinking of the Lincoln Brigades in Spain that fought on the side of the Spanish Republicans against Franco's Nationalists.

So was I. The Republicans of Spain were controlled by the Communists.

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:30:32pm

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Incidentally, both of my grandfathers were the kind of men that Mike describes when he talks about his grandfather. A fact which I learned far too late.

Sadly, families being the complicated, multi-faceted things that they are, I never benefited from their vast knowledge of how to get shit done.

196 ProMayaLiberal  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:32:24pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

In any case, Franco proved to be...slightly less than desirable for Spain for minorities in the nation. So I tend to see this as a rather gray area.

197 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:32:33pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

damn, man.

198 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:34:29pm

re: #196 ProLifeLiberal

I hate to ask, but...

He's still dead, right?

199 Kragar  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:35:16pm

re: #191 Slumbering Behemoth

Me too. Wait, is there a special occasion or something.

200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:35:18pm
201 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:35:39pm

re: #196 ProLifeLiberal

In any case, Franco proved to be...slightly less than desirable for Spain for minorities in the nation. So I tend to see this as a rather gray area.

I read the story on how the current constitutional monarch of Spain tricked Franco. Awful stuff. He basically convinced Franco that he'd keep the fascist dictatorship in Spain after Franco died and got Franco to name him his heir. And then after Franco died, he made Spain in to a constitutional republic and limited his own power dramatically. Plus as some of you may recall he famous asked Hugo Chavez to shut up. Not often I say "You go, King!" but for Juan Carlos, I make an exception.

202 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:36:14pm

re: #199 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, basically the same as any other day, then? Good to know.

203 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:36:42pm

re: #197 windsagio

damn, man.

Damn what? It was no less a person than George Orwell who helped expose who was really in charge in the Republican areas.

204 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:37:27pm

re: #185 SanFranciscoZionist

For first names, Social Security has a record of the top 1000 baby names recorded in the United States for every year after 1880. (I also found a list of early Mt. Holyoke women's given names which I am using shamelessly, as it gives a delightful cross-section of names given to college girls born between 1820 and 1850. Some charming old-fashioned things.)

What do you do with surnames? For me, what's difficult is the question of how to go about. Do I go with a common surname? Or do I go with one that exists within my own family tree and is fairly obscure? Or do I go a third route and use the surname of a famous person of that nationality I like. Like I've considered Patrick O'Connell for an Irish American protagonist given St. Pat's importance for the Irish and Daniel O'Connell's importnace for Irish nationalism.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:37:59pm

Hilariously, my husband is watching the South Park episode where the Confederate reenactors get sick of losing South Park's annual Civil War reenactment, go berserk, and change history.

206 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:38:23pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

This is the reason why lazy people write high fantasy fiction.

207 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:38:32pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

The... simplicity of your vision just occasionally stuns me.

208 windsagio  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:39:20pm

ok and with that I'm going with WUB to karaoke. Y'all have a good night :p

209 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:39:40pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

So was I. The Republicans of Spain were controlled by the Communists.

True. They also inspired a song from The Clash:

210 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:40:09pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

What do you do with surnames? For me, what's difficult is the question of how to go about. Do I go with a common surname? Or do I go with one that exists within my own family tree and is fairly obscure? Or do I go a third route and use the surname of a famous person of that nationality I like. Like I've considered Patrick O'Connell for an Irish American protagonist given St. Pat's importance for the Irish and Daniel O'Connell's importnace for Irish nationalism.

It depends a lot. I like to balance an unusual first name with something fairly ordinary for the last name. Using family names from your own family is common with a lot of writers. You can have allusions. Basically, any of those works fine.

I like to try out some different things and see what seems most like the character to me.

211 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:40:30pm

re: #209 Lidane

True. They also inspired a song from The Clash:

[Video]

Clash upding!

212 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:42:14pm

re: #207 windsagio

The... simplicity of your vision just occasionally stuns me.

How so? I admit, if I had to choose between a Communist dominated movement and Franco, I'd choose Franco. Because I'd be much less likely to be on his 'kill' list.

213 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:42:33pm

re: #206 Slumbering Behemoth

This is the reason why lazy people write high fantasy fiction.

I mean, you never hear about anyone fretting over the regional, chronological, and genealogical accuracy of the name "Bilbo Baggins".

214 efuseakay  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:42:54pm

Pretty cool stuff!

P.S. SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE ALERT!!!

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:43:26pm

re: #206 Slumbering Behemoth

This is the reason why lazy people write high fantasy fiction.

Some of them, yes. Then there are the high fantasy fiction writers like Tolkien who invent several languages for their imaginary world to speak. With grammar.

Ursula LeGuin says that in the period she was writing the Earthsea trilogy, she knew Hardic well enough to have simple conversations in it, and write poems, but she lost it, due to having no one to talk to.

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:44:04pm

re: #213 Slumbering Behemoth

I mean, you never hear about anyone fretting over the regional, chronological, and genealogical accuracy of the name "Bilbo Baggins".

You don't hang out with the people I hang out with.

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:44:23pm

re: #207 windsagio

Is that a compliment or a dig? Sometimes simplicity is all that is necessary.

218 Kragar  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:44:38pm

re: #213 Slumbering Behemoth

I mean, you never hear about anyone fretting over the regional, chronological, and genealogical accuracy of the name "Bilbo Baggins".

Given all the non-humans in "The Hobbit", was Gandalf the Tolkien White Guy?

219 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:46:15pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Heh, clearly. Not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing. It's just a thing.

220 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:47:49pm

re: #210 SanFranciscoZionist

It depends a lot. I like to balance an unusual first name with something fairly ordinary for the last name. Using family names from your own family is common with a lot of writers. You can have allusions. Basically, any of those works fine.

I like to try out some different things and see what seems most like the character to me.

Sounds cool, thanks a bunch. My first real goal is to write a short story. Probably going to end up writing that when I have more free time. I do to poetry though since that's quick and all I need for inspiration for poetry is music and the occassional flashback.

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:48:30pm

re: #218 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Given all the non-humans in "The Hobbit", was Gandalf the Tolkien White Guy?

Only after he went to one of those heterosexual re-programmers and stopped being Gray.

222 Lidane  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:58:49pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

Only after he went to one of those heterosexual re-programmers and stopped being Gray.

Just for that, have a song:

223 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 12, 2011 9:59:12pm

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

How so? I admit, if I had to choose between a Communist dominated movement and Franco, I'd choose Franco. Because I'd be much less likely to be on his 'kill' list.

I will note that Franco was still a vile person and a brutal tyrant.


Goodnight, all.

224 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:02:41pm

My second wife, Kathy, would have been 54 years old today. She died on January 15, 1999 at the age of 41. She was a great teacher, musician and mother and I am fortunate to have known her at all, let alone to have been married to her for 18 years.

I met her because a friend of mine had convinced me to go to a symphony orchestra concert, then to a reception afterward. I saw her standing across the room in her black concert dress, a 5'11" vision with strawberry red hair. I thought, wow, this is the original long cool woman in a black dress. For a wonder, she seemed to return my glance. My heart felt like a cat had licked it. I thought, no, this woman couldn't be interested in me. This wasn't too long after my exceedingly messy divorce from my first wife, the notorious "Jezebel," and my confidence was none too high. To make a long story short, I was mistaken. She was indeed interested to some extent and we were married 4 months later.

Happy birthday, sweetheart. I kept my promise to take care of our baby. You would be very proud of her.

225 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:03:16pm

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

Is that a compliment or a dig? Sometimes simplicity is all that is necessary.

I think Windy got it exactly right, really.

I mean, I don't like commies. I was raised by a man who doesn't like commies in a serious kind of way. But Dark doesn't like commies with a single-minded focus, and a willingness to put up with bad behavior from enemies of commies simply because they aren't commies that occasionally blows my mind.

There's no point arguing about it. No one is going to change their mind.

Sometimes you just have to acknowledge it all and move on.

226 Kragar  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:04:14pm

re: #222 Lidane

Just for that, have a song:

[Video]

So do I

227 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:04:49pm

re: #178 SanFranciscoZionist

And remember...the Irish are the blacks of Europe. And the Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northsiders are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud...

228 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:06:42pm

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel

Jebus dude, yer gonna make me cry. Must be a tough time for you. I have never experienced a loss like that, and don't know if I could even handle it.

You have my sincere condolences.

229 Kragar  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:08:03pm

re: #227 goddamnedfrank

[Video]

Never be rude...

230 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:08:36pm

re: #225 SanFranciscoZionist

Ah, that brings it into a much sharper focus. Wasn't quite sure what the deal was there. Thanks.

231 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:08:56pm

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

Jebus dude, yer gonna make me cry. Must be a tough time for you. I have never experienced a loss like that, and don't know if I could even handle it.

You have my sincere condolences.

Thanks, SB. The pain never really goes away but the happy memories really do outweigh it more and more as time goes on.

232 Kragar  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:11:21pm

re: #225 SanFranciscoZionist

Commies

233 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:11:40pm

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel

My second wife, Kathy, would have been 54 years old today. She died on January 15, 1999 at the age of 41. She was a great teacher, musician and mother and I am fortunate to have known her at all, let alone to have been married to her for 18 years.

I met her because a friend of mine had convinced me to go to a symphony orchestra concert, then to a reception afterward. I saw her standing across the room in her black concert dress, a 5'11" vision with strawberry red hair. I thought, wow, this is the original long cool woman in a black dress. For a wonder, she seemed to return my glance. My heart felt like a cat had licked it. I thought, no, this woman couldn't be interested in me. This wasn't too long after my exceedingly messy divorce from my first wife, the notorious "Jezebel," and my confidence was none too high. To make a long story short, I was mistaken. She was indeed interested to some extent and we were married 4 months later.

Happy birthday, sweetheart. I kept my promise to take care of our baby. You would be very proud of her.

Sorry for your loss. Moving tribute I must say. I am sure she would be proud of you and your daughter.

234 avanti  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:13:39pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

BULLSHIT. I live here. They were very very saddened they were not selected for this visit.

Gah, it's called propaganda folks. Wonder how the history books will write all this up. PravdaUSA.

The wingnuts did not know they were reading satire. Here's another story by the same guy they missed. Sad that they hate so much, they believe a over the top Onion-like page.

Killer Whale.

235 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:13:55pm

re: #232 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Commies

[Video]


I couldn't resist. The puns are so awful.
236 Winny Spencer  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:14:38pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

So was I. The Republicans of Spain were controlled by the Communists.

Untrue.

237 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:17:20pm

re: #234 avanti

The wingnuts did not know they were reading satire. Here's another story by the same guy they missed. Sad that they hate so much, they believe a over the top Onion-like page.

Killer Whale.

I'm not surprised. People often have trouble identifying satire if they already believe things so improbable that the disproportion of the satire doesn't occur to them. Poe's Law, reverse engineered.

I've had both lefties and righties send me that old Onion piece on the 'gay agenda' in a fury--the righties because they believed it, and the lefties because they thought it was a serious attack on gay people.

Of course, I do like to tell of the day I was walking with my mother, realized she was no longer by me, and found her staring in horror at a newspaper in a rack that read "Bush Complains: 'Vacation Ruined By Stupid Dead Soldier'". She was in shock. I had to point out that it was the Onion.

238 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:19:45pm

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

In honor.

239 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:19:54pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

So was I. The Republicans of Spain were controlled by the Communists.

The Grand Old Politburo?

/being silly

240 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:24:26pm

re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth

In honor.

[Video]

Many thanks, SB. A beautiful song indeed.

241 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:24:40pm

re: #232 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Commies

[Video]

Dear. God.

I think you just uncovered the instructional video Glenn Beck used to hone his FNC persona.

242 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:31:34pm

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel

When I was in fourth grade, we did an exercise in the art segment of our class about that song. Being the tough, poor kid that I was, I literally had to choke back tears.

At that time, it was the single most beautiful, sad, and moving thing that I had ever heard. Still is, in many ways.

243 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 12, 2011 10:48:03pm

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel

My heart felt like a cat had licked it.

Single-handedly the funniest and most touching description of a chance encounter that I've ever read.

Good night Shiplord, may your memories always be fond, pleasant, and comforting.

244 Four More Tears  Thu, May 12, 2011 11:04:44pm

re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth

245 engineer cat  Thu, May 12, 2011 11:18:34pm

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel

blessings

246 ProMayaLiberal  Fri, May 13, 2011 12:06:18am

Going to bed, but here is what the Misrata situation looks like as of now:

Here The rebels in Misrata will likely be the ones to win this war.

247 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, May 13, 2011 12:08:41am

Morning all!

anyone here?

How are you?

248 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 12:53:00am

re: #237 SanFranciscoZionist

Any form of undersatement, irony, subtlety or nuance is dying out in America. In our 24/7 news cycle and the Interwebs, it has all turned into a talking points shouting match.

In this rarefied atmosphere, humor has a slim chance of surviving.

249 freetoken  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:02:35am
250 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:10:33am

re: #249 freetoken

Is this marching giant elephants music from LOTR?

251 freetoken  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:19:18am

re: #250 ralphieboy

no. It's from ROTK.

252 freetoken  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:21:46am

Three Chorus From Tsar Ioannovich - Poeme of Repentance:

253 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:24:50am

re: #251 freetoken

no. It's from ROTK.

Lord of the Rings was the series name, ROTK was just the third in the series.

254 freetoken  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:26:55am

re: #253 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yes, but the oliphants were in TTT.

255 freetoken  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:28:22am

At least when they were introduced. The final great battle which included the beasts and everything else had different music. The piece I linked was the music for the scene at Minas Morgul.

256 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:29:45am

re: #255 freetoken

At least when they were introduced. The final great battle which included the beasts and everything else had different music. The piece I linked was the music for the scene at Minas Morgul.

Yeah, but the music was all from the same series

257 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:32:05am

Of course we also have the 1980 animated ROTK

258 windsagio  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:32:47am

re: #257 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

which leads to Wizards

259 windsagio  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:32:58am

re: #258 windsagio

Ralph Bakshi rules all!

260 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:34:45am

re: #259 windsagio

Ralph Bakshi rules all!

THEY SHOT FRITZ!

261 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:36:31am

re: #258 windsagio

which leads to Wizards

[Video]

Actually, Wizards came first I think

262 windsagio  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:37:48am

re: #261 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It did, but I meant more logically. The LOTR films were the death of Bakshi's career until Cool World. To this day he's still bitter about it ><

Also poor Fritz. Always thought Crumb overreacted some :(

263 windsagio  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:39:24am

re: #262 windsagio

and dammit I'm wrong, I forgot Fire and Ice again... but who wouldn't?

a little edgy today, had to flee karaoke 'cuz it was too loud, and sleep pills cutting in ;)

264 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:48:00am

re: #251 freetoken

no. It's from ROTK.

Something menacing, in any case.

Minas Mogul, the Friendly Drelb

(major upding to any old geezer who can identify that reference)

265 freetoken  Fri, May 13, 2011 1:52:53am

Victor Feldman and his (1960) quintet:

266 researchok  Fri, May 13, 2011 3:08:02am

Morning, all

267 Varek Raith  Fri, May 13, 2011 3:24:53am

Hoft Can't Recognize Satire -- Even When It's Staring Him In The Face

Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft has further cemented his hold on the title of "Dumbest Man on the Internet." As Fire Dog Lake's TBogg reported, Hoft fell for a bogus story about a San Diego high school, which rescinded its commencement invitation to President Obama because students apparently discovered that his long-form birth certificate is a fake.

As TBogg reported, the article Hoft posted to his blog tonight came from a story in the San Diego Reader's satire section, appropriately called: "SD on the QT: Almost Factual News."

Lol

269 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 4:23:32am

As I posted earlier: nuance, irony, satire and understatement are all dead or dying in America.

There is the famous story of king Canute who sat at the seaside, trying to command the tide to turn back. It is an image that is now associated with him: that of an arrogant king who cannot recognize that his powers are only human

The background is a lot more nuanced: Canute was a humble man, and tired of the constnat flood of sycophantic flattery he heard at court, being told that he was majestic and his powers divine.

The story is that he sat out on the seaside to demonstrate to the flattering courtiers that he was only human.

But this nuance was lost, and so he went down in history as the man who failed to turn back the tides at this command.

Jim Hoft would have made a perfect fit for one of Canute's flatterers...

270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 4:34:12am

re: #269 ralphieboy

Sting's video "If I Ever Lose My Faith" had a great visual of the king attacking the waves... Derpy derps...

271 Flounder  Fri, May 13, 2011 4:56:58am

I hope this guy was on drugs:
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

It's motorcycle season! (finally) keep an eye out for 'em.

272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 4:58:29am

re: #271 Shropshire_Slasher

Hey Slash... did you notice the first comment?

Very funny.

273 Flounder  Fri, May 13, 2011 4:59:52am

re: #272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah, what about the other twenty in the car !!!!

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:04:43am

re: #273 Shropshire_Slasher

Perp rhymes with derp.

275 Obdicut  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:21:24am

re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That reminds me of the awesome British tabloid headlines.

"He Gave Me Herps!" Says Derp of Perp.

276 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:25:19am

Morning Honcos.

277 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:25:42am

Good morning lizards!

278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:29:04am

re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #277 NJDhockeyfan

You two wake up together?

Again?

279 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:30:20am

re: #278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #277 NJDhockeyfan

You two wake up together?

Again?

It wasn't easy. I had to slap him on the ass 4 different times.
//

280 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:30:23am

re: #278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #277 NJDhockeyfan

You two wake up together?

Again?

Shhhhh...CCA likes spooning.

281 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:32:23am

A friend of my youngest brother (28YO) stopped by the house yesterday. Small problem: The last I knew, he died. Turns out he did but was brought back. I asked if he is a Zombie.

282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:32:28am

Going back to bed. Because I can.

283 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:32:45am

Heh...now this is how a successful prank in high school should be done...

Senior prank: Prom won't include cavity searches, principal assures

A senior prank had officials at St. Viator High School in Arlington Heights fielding phone calls from parents concerned that their sons and daughters might receive body-cavity searches prior to prom.

Someone using St. Viator's 50th-anniversary stationery sent letters to the homes of all seniors, claiming they would be subject to cavity searches before the dance and the after-prom cruise because students in past years had smuggled in "illicit materials."

Though the school's switchboard lit up, St. Viator's president, the Rev. Mick Egan, said "the great majority of our parents knew immediately this was a prank."

284 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:33:49am

re: #281 Cannadian Club Akbar

A friend of my youngest brother (28YO) stopped by the house yesterday. Small problem: The last I knew, he died. Turns out he did but was brought back. I asked if he is a Zombie.

Was he buried in an Indian burial ground?

285 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:33:50am

re: #283 NJDhockeyfan

epic.

286 Flounder  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:34:24am

re: #279 Cannadian Club Akbar

THOSE AREN'T PILLOWS!!!

287 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:34:56am

re: #284 NJDhockeyfan

Was he buried in an Indian burial ground?

Ever see The Serpent and the Rainbow?

288 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:37:05am

re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ever see The Serpent and the Rainbow?

Love that movie. I used to work with Haitians in the restaurant business. One of them tried to put a voodoo curse on us line cooks because he had to clean up the line after a very busy Saturday night.

289 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:38:49am

re: #258 windsagio

which leads to Wizards

[Video]

That was Bakshi's finest moment by about 20 miles.

290 Obdicut  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:38:51am

re: #288 NJDhockeyfan

A Haitian I worked with put a curse on me that made me highly attractive to women and a great dancer.

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:40:46am

re: #288 NJDhockeyfan

Knew a girl who practiced witchcraft when I was 18. I thought she was gonna put a curse on me. She said if she did, it would be a love curse, not an ebil one.

292 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:43:35am

Tom Wilson, AKA Biff from Back to the Future, is playing the Improv in Tampa this weekend. On my radio now. Funny dude.

293 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:44:52am

re: #291 Cannadian Club Akbar

He didn't want to clean up after us and I can understand that but when the manager told him he had to clean the line he went ballistic. He ran over shouting, all of us holding a fresh cold beer in hand, and started pointing to us one at a time..."I voodoo you! I voodoo you!" When he finished I grabbed my crotch and said "Voodoo this!"

294 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:45:29am

re: #292 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tom Wilson, AKA Biff from Back to the Future, is playing the Improv in Tampa this weekend. On my radio now. Funny dude.

Hey McFly!

295 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:46:39am

re: #294 NJDhockeyfan

Hey McFly!

Dude is playing a guitar and singing now. Wish I knew he was coming. Gonna be a good show.

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:54:38am

I love looking over employment ads that are full of misspelled words and overall bad grammar. Sheesh.

297 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:55:51am

re: #284 NJDhockeyfan

Was he buried in an Indian burial ground?

Nope, the Pet Sematary.

298 RogueOne  Fri, May 13, 2011 5:56:17am

Morning folks.

299 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:03:26am

Hey you people who are smarter than me, should I apply for financial aid to go back to skool even though I haven't applied to go back? (I know financial aid takes a while) I will get back in. It's a CC, although moving to a 4 years skool eventually, and I have attended there before.

300 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:03:29am

Update on those 2 douchebag terrorists busted in NYC...

The attorneys for two New York men charged Thursday under a rarely used state law with plotting to bomb a synagogue and possibly the Empire State building say their clients are not guilty.

The case against 26-year-old Ahmed Ferhani, an Algerian, and 20-year-old Mohamed Mamdouh, a U.S. citizen of Moroccan descent, was orchestrated as part of a sting operation.

Ferhani's lawyer says his client has told him that "he hasn't committed any crime at all." Mamdouh's lawyer says his client is also proclaiming his innocence.

Ferhani's father told The New York Times that the accusations are unbelievable. He says his son is friends with a diverse group of people, and his girlfriend is Christian. The father told the Times, "All people are equal. We don't make a distinction."

Where did they find lawyers so fast willing to defend these assholes?

301 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:05:49am

re: #300 NJDhockeyfan

Update on those 2 douchebag terrorists busted in NYC...

Where did they find lawyers so fast willing to defend these assholes?

Lynn Stewart's Rolodex?

302 Obdicut  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:06:03am

re: #300 NJDhockeyfan

Where did they find lawyers so fast willing to defend these assholes?


In the United States, where everyone, no matter what, is entitled to a defense.

Which is pretty awesome of us.

303 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:06:52am

re: #302 Obdicut

In the United States, where everyone, no matter what, is entitled to a defense.

Which is pretty awesome of us.

If I was a lawyer I would pass on this one.

304 Flounder  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:15:17am

re: #300 NJDhockeyfan

Free publicity for the lawyer...
They get indigent rate too

305 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:17:13am

re: #303 NJDhockeyfan

If I was a lawyer I would pass on this one.

It is hard to live up to the example set by John Adams.

306 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:19:39am

re: #304 Shropshire_Slasher

Free publicity for the lawyer...
They get indigent rate too

Free publicity, true. But a fatwa on your head if you lose. D'oh!!

307 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:20:23am

The MSM is reporting on this crap coming out of Gaza...

Hamas sends signals of moderation to West

Hamas, the Islamic militant group known for suicide bombings, rocket attacks and hatred of Israel, is sending subtle signals of moderation as it prepares to join a Palestinian unity government.

Hamas officials speak of reconciliation with the West and a halt in armed hostilities with Israel, and even hint at some sort of political accommodation with the Jewish state. While Israel is not convinced, there are hopes in some Palestinian circles that the Iran-backed group could become a more accepted part of the Mideast diplomatic equation.

"The world should realize that we have made many changes," said Ghazi Hamad, the deputy foreign minister of the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip. "The international community should not run away from these changes."

And while the sympathizers of terrorists continue to report on the possibility of rainbows & unicorns coming out of Gaza, Hamas is quickly building up their weapons collection.

Egypt turmoil helping arms smuggling to Gaza-Israel

Smugglers of arms into the Gaza Strip are operating almost freely after a change of leadership in Egypt, Israel's Shin Bet security agency said.

A report by the domestic spy agency said with Egypt's new leaders preoccupied with stabilizing their country, "governance in Sinai is not high and this allows smugglers to operate almost without hindrance.

"Today the Egyptian regime's attention is focused on stabilizing the new government and this eases the Sinai smugglers' task," the report said.

...It said hundreds of rockets with a range of 20-40 kilometers (12-25 miles), at least 1,000 mortar bombs, some anti-tank missiles and tones of high explosives and raw material to make high explosives had entered Gaza since the start of 2010.

308 JJ42  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:21:06am

"Swine Lake", featuring Rudolph Nureyev:

309 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:21:55am

re: #305 wlewisiii

It is hard to live up to the example set by John Adams.

Yes, I'm sure Mr Adams would have jumped to the head of the line for the opportunity to defend these innocent gentlemen.

310 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:22:16am

re: #307 NJDhockeyfan

Didn't anyone ask Jimmy Carter for his thoughts on this?

311 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:22:43am

re: #307 NJDhockeyfan

The MSM is reporting on this crap coming out of Gaza...

Hamas sends signals of moderation to West

And while the sympathizers of terrorists continue to report on the possibility of rainbows & unicorns coming out of Gaza, Hamas is quickly building up their weapons collection.

Egypt turmoil helping arms smuggling to Gaza-Israel

Hamas has not sent any "signals of moderation" or changed their methods or objectives in any way, shape, or form.

This is just delusional bullshit the media.

312 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:23:27am

re: #309 NJDhockeyfan

Yes, I'm sure Mr Adams would have jumped to the head of the line for the opportunity to defend these innocent gentlemen.

Boston Massacre. He was council for the defense.

313 Renaissance_Man  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:24:34am

re: #80 Lidane

Oh god. This is awkward. I had an interview last Friday for an internship, but had to reschedule at the last minute because I was busy puking my guts out that morning due to school-related stress and bad food. I asked the guy if we could reschedule and never heard back. I assumed that because we'd been playing tag for ages and had scheduling snafus before that he'd written me off and that would be that.

On Monday, I got a last minute offer to come in for an interview with a different company. I went there yesterday and walked out with a job. Now the first guy just emailed me tonight to ask if I had time to meet him tomorrow. I have no idea how to handle this. What do I even say?

You say yes, go do the interview, and treat it as a load of fun, because interviews for jobs you don't need are a rare opportunity in life to be really yourself.

314 RogueOne  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:27:26am

re: #300 NJDhockeyfan

Update on those 2 douchebag terrorists busted in NYC...

Where did they find lawyers so fast willing to defend these assholes?

That's also another one of those "undercover" stings. I'm generally pretty wary of those types of arrests.

315 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:27:30am

Jordanians demonstrate for Palestinian "Right of Return"

This may be an indication that Jordan is getting ready to strip Palestinians of Jordanian citizenship.

316 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:32:20am

re: #315 Alouette

Jordanians demonstrate for Palestinian "Right of Return"

This may be an indication that Jordan is getting ready to strip Palestinians of Jordanian citizenship.

Actually not "getting ready to" they have already done it.

317 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:34:19am

re: #316 Alouette

Actually not "getting ready to" they have already done it.

They were forced to do that by the evil Zionists in Israel!
/HuffPo moonbat

318 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:35:25am

re: #317 NJDhockeyfan

They were forced to do that by the evil Zionists in Israel!
/HuffPo moonbat

HuffPo moonbats deny that Jordan has stripped Palestinians of their citizenship.

319 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:37:35am

re: #316 Alouette

Actually not "getting ready to" they have already done it.

Can you imagine if America called for the "right of return" for Mexicans? RACIST!!!

320 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:39:01am

re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar

Forgot my tag..

//////

321 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:40:16am

re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can you imagine if America called for the "right of return" for Mexicans? RACIST!!!

Actually it would be more like the U.S. calls for the "right of return" of all Native Americans to Mexico.

322 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:44:17am

re: #316 Alouette

Jordan has a peace treaty with Israel, but has no intention of ever allowing itself be part of a solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict because millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps struggle to this day because the countries where those camps are located refuse to allow the Palestinians to become integrated into their countries as citizens. Moreover, the Jordanian regime has a long memory - Abdullah's dad had to crush a PLO rebellion that resulted in Black September when the PLO tried to overthrow the Jordanian king.

Palestinians have to acknowledge that they aren't going to get a right to return to Israel for all those who they claim should be allowed that right. The refugee numbers have been inflated over decades, and a refusal to allow resettlement within Arab countries makes the situation even worse.

It creates a permanent underclass and one that is discontent and one that fuels the likes of Hamas.

323 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:46:26am

re: #322 lawhawk

Oh, and none of these Arab countries would ever allow those hundreds of thousands of Jews that it expelled to return to their countries - let alone reclaim the billions that were left behind in real estate and other belongings.

324 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:47:29am

Meanwhile, Israel's other neighbor continues to kill his people...

U.N. official: 850 likely killed in clashes in Syria

The two-month-long crackdown down by Syrian security forces on anti-government protesters may have left as many as 850 people dead, a U.N. official said on Friday.

The rising death toll was announced as Syrian security forces braced for nationwide protests after Friday prayers. Activists are referring to the turnout as "The Friday of Free Syrian Women," a commemoration of those females rallying for freedom and a remembrance of those who have been slain.

...The number killed in clashes with government forces has been put by various human rights groups at between 700 and 850 dead, according to Rupert Colville, a spokesman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights.

NATO began attacking Libya for killing less civilians. Will the US & NATO begin bombing Syria next?

325 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:48:15am

Blogger is down btw for posting purposes.

326 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:51:30am

re: #324 NJDhockeyfan

Don't count on it. Libya gives NATO a full plate, and other than the US, the other members are stretched pretty thin to deal with their obligations in Afghanistan and Libya plus any other peacekeeping efforts.

Assad gets to keep on killing fellow Syrians who are fed up with his regime. He's playing from his dad's playbook - and has no intention of going quietly - so the body count will continue rising.

327 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 6:58:35am

re: #326 lawhawk

Don't count on it. Libya gives NATO a full plate, and other than the US, the other members are stretched pretty thin to deal with their obligations in Afghanistan and Libya plus any other peacekeeping efforts.

Assad gets to keep on killing fellow Syrians who are fed up with his regime. He's playing from his dad's playbook - and has no intention of going quietly - so the body count will continue rising.

Somehow Israel will ultimately be blamed for it. They always are.

328 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:01:12am

Gotta do a bit of mowing. bbl.

329 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:10:39am
330 Achilles Tang  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:15:41am

re: #322 lawhawk

........millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps......

I wish people would stop talking of Palestinian refugee camps several generations later.

They have towns, villages and cities with high rise buildings. No tents.

If they look scruffy that is because they don't care if they look scruffy.

331 Achilles Tang  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:18:21am

LGF server seems very slow this morning.

332 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:21:03am

Police arrest man suspected of making death threats against Obama

Irish police have arrested a man on suspicion of making threats to kill U.S. President Barack Obama when he visits Ireland later this month, a police spokesman said Friday.

Khalid Kelly, a converted Muslim who subscribes to the al Qaeda ideology, is being held at Dublin's Store Street Garda (police) station under the Offenses Against the State Act, police said.

333 sattv4u2  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:22:58am

re: #332 Killgore Trout

Khalid Kelly

heh

Seamus and Paddy Mohammed were unavailable for comment!
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334 Obdicut  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:25:12am

re: #332 Killgore Trout

I'm sorry, but Khalid Kelly is simply the most hilarious name for a terrorist I've heard in forever.

335 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:28:50am

Muslim Extremists Hold 'Funeral service' for Bin Laden

Hundreds of Muslim extremists gathered outside the US Embassy in London on Friday, May 6th, to stage a funeral service for Osama bin Laden. Members of the anti-Islamic group "English Defence League" (EDL) staged a counter demonstration. The two groups were kept apart by police.

The rally was organised by the group "Muslims Against Crusades" headed by controversial preacher Anjem Choudry who previously made headlines by burning poppies on Remembrance Sunday. Around 300 Muslims marched on the embassy to chants of "Allahu Akbar" and anti-American slogans before kneeling to pray for bin Laden. They demanded "the release of the body of Sheikh Usama to his family to be properly buried" and held banners stating that "Shariah will dominate the world".

336 sattv4u2  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:30:41am

re: #334 Obdicut

I'm sorry, but Khalid Kelly is simply the most hilarious name for a terrorist I've heard in forever.

It's like he wanted to commit to "the cause', but at the same time didn't want to give up his seat at the pub and his place on the rugby team!

337 RadicalModerate  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:31:15am

The neo-Confederate "Sons of Confederate Veterans" has a new tactic in their revisionist history of the Civil War- issuing "Confederate Heritage" License Plates in states that didn't secede from the Union:

Group pushing Confederate license plate in Kentucky

This is the same SoCV that last year attempted to get a Mississippi state license plate honoring war criminal and first KKK "wizard" Nathan Bedford Forrest.

338 Obdicut  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:33:37am

re: #336 sattv4u2

"Well, I want to show my adherence to the Muslim faith, but if I changed my last name, our mum would go spare."

339 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:35:38am

re: #336 sattv4u2

It's like he wanted to commit to "the cause', but at the same time didn't want to give up his seat at the pub and his place on the rugby team!

He was hoping to earn his 72 pints in heaven.

340 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:38:55am

Have a good weekend Lizards. I may have a chance to read but probably not post with my antique beastie.

341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:40:02am

re: #334 Obdicut

I'm sorry, but Khalid Kelly is simply the most hilarious name for a terrorist I've heard in forever.

Sounds like something from "Johnny Dangerously".

342 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:41:11am

re: #300 NJDhockeyfan

Update on those 2 douchebag terrorists busted in NYC...


Where did they find lawyers so fast willing to defend these assholes?

There was a famous instance in a Soviet show trial of the 1930's in which the defense attorney got up and said that in light of the heinious nature of the charges against his clients, he could offer no defense...

343 iossarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:41:26am

Eurovision Song Contest tomorrow. I miss my gay housemates!

[Link: www.eurovision.tv...]

My money's on the Moldovan gnomes.

344 Lidane  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:43:31am

re: #337 RadicalModerate

The neo-Confederate "Sons of Confederate Veterans" has a new tactic in their revisionist history of the Civil War- issuing "Confederate Heritage" License Plates in states that didn't secede from the Union:

Group pushing Confederate license plate in Kentucky

I hope that Kentucky points out that they fought against the Confederacy, so honoring them with a license plate makes no sense.

Neo-Confederates are imbeciles. You lost. Your state will not secede again anytime soon. There's a black guy in the White House. Get the hell over it.

345 iossarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:43:31am

re: #342 ralphieboy

There was a famous instance in a Soviet show trial of the 1930's in which the defense attorney got up and said that in light of the heinious nature of the charges against his clients, he could offer no defense...

Fantastic.

"Your honor, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I was going to tell you why to let my client off, but to be honest I've got a raging hangover and I can't be arsed."

346 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:43:35am

re: #343 iossarian

Eurovision Song Contest tomorrow. I miss my gay housemates!

[Link: www.eurovision.tv...]

My money's on the Moldovan gnomes.


I vote for the Rolling Estonians

347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:45:27am

re: #342 ralphieboy

Wouldn't that get a lawyer in America held in contempt?

348 iossarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:46:32am

re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wouldn't that get a lawyer in America held in contempt?

Depends on the nature of the crime and the skin color of the defendant.

/only half

349 iossarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:48:08am

re: #346 ralphieboy

I vote for the Rolling Estonians

I prefer Chubby Czecher.

350 Lidane  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:49:25am

re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wouldn't that get a lawyer in America held in contempt?

Not in Texas. There have been death penalty cases where the defense lawyers were openly sleeping in court or drunk, and the defendant had no grounds for appeal. A lawyer not offering a defense because of the charges against his client? I'd be surprised if that got a contempt of court charge.

351 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:56:11am

Good morning, Lizardim. Happy Friday to all.

352 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:58:05am

re: #347 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wouldn't that get a lawyer in America held in contempt?


No idea. It's just that that poor Russian attorney knew that if he even tried to formulate a defense for his client, it could be used against him in his own trial later that week...

353 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 7:58:54am

re: #350 Lidane

Not in Texas. There have been death penalty cases where the defense lawyers were openly sleeping in court or drunk, and the defendant had no grounds for appeal.

Wait, what? I was certain that there have been appeals that have been won due to a lack of proper representation. Now if the defendant waives his right to a competent defense, I believe that's another thing.

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:00:14am

re: #352 ralphieboy

Lawyer: My client is soooo guilty.
Jury: HOW GUILTY IS HE?
Lawyer:...

i got nuthin.

355 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:00:45am

re: #349 iossarian

I prefer Chubby Czecher.

Or the Black Crowatians

356 sattv4u2  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:02:33am

re: #353 thedopefishlives

Wait, what? I was certain that there have been appeals that have been won due to a lack of proper representation. Now if the defendant waives his right to a competent defense, I believe that's another thing.

yes

357 iossarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:03:11am

re: #355 ralphieboy

Or the Black Crowatians

Weird Al Baniavitch?

358 Lidane  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:03:22am

re: #353 thedopefishlives

Wait, what? I was certain that there have been appeals that have been won due to a lack of proper representation. Now if the defendant waives his right to a competent defense, I believe that's another thing.

There are very narrow grounds for appeal in Texas, mostly due to technical issues with the trial, like if jury instructions are improperly delivered, or if there's a procedural mistake.

The death penalty case with the sleeping lawyer is rarity, since that guy got an appeal. It got him off death row, but not out of prison, since he agreed to three life sentences instead of death. He's the exception, not the rule.

359 iossarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:03:51am

re: #357 iossarian

Weird Al Baniavitch?

Spain-dau Ballet?

360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:04:34am

re: #358 Lidane

I feel really sorry for the guys who are put in the cell with the guy when he's serving his second and third life sentences.

361 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:05:14am

re: #359 iossarian

Spain-dau Ballet?

France Ferdinand?

362 Lidane  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:05:25am

re: #360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I feel really sorry for the guys who are put in the cell with the guy when he's serving his second and third life sentences.

Heh.

363 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:07:23am

Li'l Norwayne?

364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:08:39am

re: #361 ralphieboy

Chicago?

365 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:10:02am

re: #364 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chicago?

Not in Europe, more like the other way around. All my grandparents were Eastern European immigrants who settled in the vicinity.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:13:31am

re: #365 ralphieboy

I joined in the game without knowing what was going on. Sorry.

Swede.

367 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:14:38am

The Belgian Blossoms

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:14:47am

re: #366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

369 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:17:24am

Bulgarian Newman

370 iossarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:17:28am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You just made my morning.

371 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:22:45am

Not to mention the soundtracks: Lithuanian's World, and of course, Greece, Dirty Danishing...

372 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:29:58am

C'mon folks! Germany, Italy, Poland, Hungary, Romania, and the Netherlands are still open, I am stumped at this point...

373 sattv4u2  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:38:55am

re: #372 ralphieboy

C'mon folks! Germany, Italy, Poland, Hungary, Romania, and the Netherlands are still open, I am stumped at this point...

Didn't Hitler say that in 1938 ish!?!?!

374 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:40:00am

Don't make me get regional or it will get ugly:

Brittany Spears

Lady Gagalicia


warned you.

375 Lidane  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:40:17am

ARGH. I still can't write this damn letter telling the guy who I was supposed to interview with last week that I've already taken a job in the meantime.

I hate writing awkward letters.

376 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:41:35am

re: #375 Lidane

ARGH. I still can't write this damn letter telling the guy who I was supposed to interview with last week that I've already taken a job in the meantime.

I hate writing awkward letters.

Go take the interview. It is good practice. Then tell him you have declined the position...

377 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:45:17am

re: #376 ralphieboy

Go take the interview. It is good practice. Then tell him you have declined the position...

Yep, that's an idea.

OR:

Dear Sir:
Thank you for your continued interest in employing me through the summer as an intern in your ______ program.

I know there were difficulties in establishing an interview date for me. There was a period of time when I did not hear from you and assumed the position had been filled, and during that time, I accepted a position elsewhere.

Again, your continued interest in me is appreciated.

Sincerely,
akljdf;lajdlfjasd;lfja;sldjf


Short, sweet, simple, to the point.

378 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:47:51am

re: #373 sattv4u2

Didn't Hitler say that in 1938 ish!?!?!

Way to Godwin the thread, jerkface./

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:53:35am

re: #377 reine.de.tout

Or:

Dear Sirs:

You snoozed, you losed.

Suckit:

a;lskdjas;dlfkja;sdlfkj

380 sattv4u2  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:54:18am

re: #377 reine.de.tout

Short, sweet, simple, to the point.

Just like you

FBV on the other hand ,,,well ,,,,

381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:54:31am

re: #375 Lidane

Do what Toots said on a thank you note.

382 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:55:57am

The nagging must be up to the level of biblical proportions...

Man Marries 107 Women, Fathers 185 Children

The phrase "I do" comes once -- maybe twice or thrice -- in most people's lives. For one man in Niger, it comes on a weekly basis.

Bello Maasaba, an Islamic faith healer, has married a grand total of 107 eager women.

In a country with a long tradition of polygamy, the number is still quite, quite high. The number of children fathered by the popular healer also reaches skyward: 185 in all.

But why?

"I get a revelation from God telling me any woman I'm going to marry. If it wasn't from God, I wouldn't have gone beyond two," he explained to Los Angeles Times writer Robyn Dixon.

Maasaba said that he was visited by the archangel Gabriel, who told him to pursue faith healing and marry many, many women.

383 Lidane  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:57:42am

re: #376 ralphieboy

Go take the interview. It is good practice. Then tell him you have declined the position...

I would, but walking into his office knowing I already have a job feels dishonest and like I'm wasting his time. That's not fair to him, or to me. I couldn't do that.

I just need to find a way to say that an offer came in while I was waiting to hear back, and I accepted it because it fit my personal and professional interests.

384 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 13, 2011 8:58:56am

re: #382 NJDhockeyfan

The nagging must be up to the level of biblical proportions...

Man Marries 107 Women, Fathers 185 Children

Right. God wants you to pursue women. And who told Wilt Chamberlain and Warren Beatty?

385 sattv4u2  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:00:18am

re: #382 NJDhockeyfan

Man Marries 107 Women, Fathers 185 Children

At the McDonalds drive thru

"We'll have 187 cheesburgers
8 without pickles,,, 16 without ketchup,,, 5 plain,,, 12 no mustard ,, 4 pickles only,,,, 11 ketchup only ,,,

386 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:01:23am

re: #383 Lidane

I would, but walking into his office knowing I already have a job feels dishonest and like I'm wasting his time. That's not fair to him, or to me. I couldn't do that.

I just need to find a way to say that an offer came in while I was waiting to hear back, and I accepted it because it fit my personal and professional interests.


This is the modern world. How do you know for certain that new job will be there when you show up for your first day of work? Really. That sounds a bit jaded, but that is how things are.

My ex used to go off and interview regularly even when she was not looking for a new job just to stay in practice.

387 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:01:26am

re: #343 iossarian

Eurovision Song Contest tomorrow. I miss my gay housemates!

[Link: www.eurovision.tv...]

My money's on the Moldovan gnomes.

I still hold that Portugese's entry is a national punishment for their sins.

388 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:02:47am

The Portucat Dolls?

389 Flounder  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:04:32am

Unfortunately, it's blackfly season in upstate NY, the little bastards are gonna be bad. Remember, blackflies don't bite, they suck.

390 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:08:23am

re: #379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Or:

Dear Sirs:

You snoozed, you losed.

Suckit:

a;lskdjas;dlfkja;sdlfkj

LOL.
That's basically what happened.

391 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:11:02am
Maasaba said that he was visited by the archangel Gabriel, who told him to pursue faith healing and marry many, many women.

This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs.

392 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:25:36am

re: #391 thedopefishlives

This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs.

The ones on drugs are all the women who agreed to marry this guy.

393 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:27:17am

re: #392 Alouette

The ones on drugs are all the women who agreed to marry this guy.

Well, that too. But you have to be pretty much stoned out of your gourd to think that the angel Gabriel told you to build a harem. And even as a believer in God, angels, and faith healing, if someone told me that the archangel appeared to them and told them to go forth and lay hands on the sick, I'd probably tell them to seek professional help.

394 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:28:01am

re: #393 thedopefishlives

Angel Gabriel is the one who blows the big horn...

395 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:28:29am

re: #393 thedopefishlives

Well, that too. But you have to be pretty much stoned out of your gourd to think that the angel Gabriel told you to build a harem. And even as a believer in God, angels, and faith healing, if someone told me that the archangel appeared to them and told them to go forth and lay hands on the sick, I'd probably tell them to seek professional help.

Who says he actually believes this? This is the line he's used to pick up babes. And it obviously works.

396 Flounder  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:29:35am

I enjoyed reading this story: [Link: www.timesunion.com...]
I've been an avid gamer all my life, its good to see Sony including this young man into the game.

397 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:29:44am

re: #395 Alouette

Who says he actually believes this? This is the line he's used to pick up babes. And it obviously works.

He's labeled a "faith healer". My assumption is that he went ahead and drank the Kool-aid. I figure, if he didn't believe it, he'd be doing something else.

398 Flounder  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:30:30am

re: #395 Alouette

Hmmm, gonna get lucky this weekend!

399 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:30:47am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

He's labeled a "faith healer". My assumption is that he went ahead and drank the Kool-aid. I figure, if he didn't believe it, he'd be doing something else.

All that being said, given the wild success he's had using that line on the ladies, maybe I oughta give it a try...

Oh, hi, Mrs. Fish -- *gunshot*

400 sattv4u2  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:31:45am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

He's labeled a "faith healer". My assumption is that he went ahead and drank the Kool-aid. I figure, if he didn't believe it, he'd be doing something else.


Why?? See all those "Card Readers"/ "Spiritualists" in resort towns?

Do you think THEY really believe that they are reading your future in the cards?

401 darthstar  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:31:46am

re: #375 Lidane

ARGH. I still can't write this damn letter telling the guy who I was supposed to interview with last week that I've already taken a job in the meantime.

I hate writing awkward letters.

That's not an awkward letter...trust me. Just say that you had another offer on the table, that it was a good offer, and that you didn't want to risk losing one job while waiting to see if there was another opportunity. Also add that, should you find yourself in the job market in the future, you would be happy to give the guy first shot at hiring you.

Employers hate, HATE losing out on hiring people. I have had a couple of really good candidates accept other jobs on the day before our interview and call me to tell me so. I keep their resumes on file in case they find themselves back on the market.

402 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:33:23am

re: #329 NJDhockeyfan

HuffPo:

Who Cares If Hamas Recognizes Israel?

That's MJ Rosenberg, yesterday's Doofus of the Day. Here's what he actually said:

But why does it matter whether Hamas recognizes Israel or not, so long as it agrees to permanently end terror attacks against Israel?

Because, dumbass, Hamas has not and will never agree to permanently end its attacks against Israel, unless Israel is destroyed, like it says in the freaking Hamas Charter!

403 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:35:04am

re: #402 Alouette

Because, dumbass, Hamas has not and will never agree to permanently end its attacks against Israel, unless Israel is destroyed, like it says in the freaking Hamas Charter!

Stop with the logic. Someone's head might asplode.

404 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:36:52am

re: #403 thedopefishlives

Stop with the logic. Someone's head might asplode.

The media's claim that "Hamas has become more moderate" is an example of mass delusion.

405 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:38:51am

re: #404 Alouette

The media's claim that "Hamas has become more moderate" is an example of mass delusion.

So that would explain why my bullshit detector was smoking all morning.

406 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:40:45am

re: #402 Alouette

The PLO Charter still reflects similar sentiment. Consider Article 9:

Article 9: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. Thus it is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Palestinian Arab people assert their absolute determination and firm resolution to continue their armed struggle and to work for an armed popular revolution for the liberation of their country and their return to it. They also assert their right to normal life in Palestine and to exercise their right to self-determination and sovereignty over it.

The Charter defines Palestine as the entire territorial entity in existence at the time of the British mandate, meaning Israel ceases to exist, and so too does Jordan (all annexed and consolidated into Palestine).

That's the rationale behind the attempt to overthrow Jordan's government, because the PLO (which means Fatah) sees itself as the true rulers of the Mandate Palestine..

And for what it's worth - the PA/PLO were supposed to remove those kinds of statements/chapters from their charters under Oslo, but they're still there - and new versions refer back to the original Charter as effective. Fatah's still playing the long game, and using Hamas for its own tactical advantage. Fatah can claim that Hamas is more violent, so deal with them since they're moderate, but they are anything but in their ultimate goal.

407 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:42:47am

It is unfortunate that either Hamas or Israel will have to cease to exist if there is to be peace...

408 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:43:21am

re: #404 Alouette

That meme doesn't pass the smell test/laugh test/bs-o-meter. Hamas has not changed its goals, intentions, or policy towards Israel. They're just being a little sneakier about what they want to do.

And everyone buys into it because the kassams aren't flying into Israel for the moment. No kassams = chance for peace, but in reality the no kassams simply means that Hamas is biding its time for when they will fire them again en masse.

409 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:48:08am

re: #408 lawhawk

And everyone buys into it because the kassams aren't flying into Israel for the moment. No kassams = chance for peace, but in reality the no kassams simply means that Hamas is biding its time for when they will fire them again en masse.

Gotta save up money, splodeydopes, and human shields so they can build a new round.

410 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:53:27am

re: #407 ralphieboy

It is unfortunate that either Hamas or Israel will have to cease to exist if there is to be peace...

If Israel would cease to exist (G-D forbid) there would still not be peace.

If Hamas would cease to exist, there might be a chance for peace.

411 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:56:58am
412 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:58:39am

re: #411 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ron Paul announces his plan to piss away millions

Tea Party!

413 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:58:47am

re: #411 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ron Paul announces his plan to piss away millions

If the man really wants to help America, he could just give away all his funds to the American people. There's a stimulus package that'll work.

414 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 9:58:58am

re: #411 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It's not his millions. And those are millions that wont go to candidates.

415 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:00:06am

re: #413 thedopefishlives

If the man really wants to help America, he could just give away all his funds to the American people. There's a stimulus package that'll work.

He'll go live in a Gulch before he ever does that.

416 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:00:18am

re: #414 lawhawk

It's not his millions. And those are millions that wont go to candidates.

A fool and his money and all that. Anyone who gives their money or time to Paul deserves to lose it.

417 lawhawk  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:00:35am

BTW - blogger's back up and running. Their glitches have been fixed apparently (crummy blogs are still crummy though).

418 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:00:42am

re: #415 Alouette

He'll go live in a Gulch before he ever does that.

I know. Not to mention that the people that funded him in the first place would not be too terribly pleased.

419 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:01:03am

Today on the Alex Jones 9-11 truther show....

Alex welcomes to the show Texas Republican Rep. David Simpson, who is the sponsor of a bill passed in the Texas House that will make it a criminal offense for the TSA to inappropriately touch travelers during airport intrusive pat-downs. Simpson says the legislation will prevent TSA officials from treating travelers like criminals.
420 Kragar  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:05:06am

re: #419 Killgore Trout

Today on the Alex Jones 9-11 truther show...

Get out of my airport.

421 Winny Spencer  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:06:51am

re: #412 Killgore Trout

Tea Party!

Is dead, the coffin nailed shut. But good luck to him.

422 Lidane  Fri, May 13, 2011 10:13:01am

OK. This is what I ended up writing:

Dear xxx,

As much as I would love to come in and talk, an offer for a business development internship came in yesterday from ___________. It's a great opportunity that fits my professional interests and I've decided to accept it.

I would hate to come in and take an hour of your time when I've got a position lined up. I'm truly, deeply sorry if this causes any problems, and I really do appreciate the patience and interest you showed in me. I hope that we can keep lines of communication open, so that if I find myself in the market for a position down the line, we could talk again. I like __________ and I think you guys are a great company. Maybe we could work together someday. For now, I've already made a commitment to ______________, and I can't go back on my word.

Thanks again for everything, and I look forward to keeping in contact in the future.

xxxx

I hope that works. It might be a simple letter, but it took me ages even to write that much.


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