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I was walking down Fifth Avenue today and I found a wallet, and I was gonna keep it, rather than return it, but I thought: “Well, if I lost a hundred and fifty dollars, how would I feel?” And I realized I would want to be taught a lesson.

Emo Philips

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1 Alexzander  Sat, May 14, 2011 10:52:29pm

Is Brookly Red lost to the stalker blog?

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:04:46pm

re: #1 Alexzander

Is Brookly Red lost to the stalker blog?

Why do you ask this?

3 Alexzander  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:08:38pm

Was just checking out the stalker blog and saw her name there and wondered if she really left or was just being impersonated. But I read back a bit and figured it out so nevermind. I've been doing a perusal of right-of-center blogs all evening to get a feel for the general reaction to Huckabee's decision not to run.

4 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:09:26pm

So, the Princess, who I am currently waiting on, asked the following question:

If Parakeets came back as zombies, what would they eat?

(Yes, she has recently suffered a loss.)

5 Alexzander  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:11:46pm

The dog in my family is 18 years old - practically a zombie already. Deaf, unpredictable, occasionally chews on his own leg.

6 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:12:58pm

re: #5 Alexzander

The dog in my family is 18 years old - practically a zombie already. Deaf, unpredictable, occasionally chews on his own leg.

They put my cat down at 16. It was a relief. She had had a number of infirmities, including massive inner ear problems.

7 Summer Seale  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:13:07pm

Morning Lizards,

I just woke up and had my coffee. Then I read the guest list of The Political Cesspool, and it really reads like a "Who's Who" of the most fucked up right-wing anti-semitic and racist bastards on some sort of FBI "dangerous extremists" poster.

Great company "Nuge" keeps...and Huckabee.

8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:14:02pm

re: #3 Alexzander

Was just checking out the stalker blog and saw her name there

Her? Interesting. I recall BR speaking of girlfriends, in a manner suggestive of intimacy and sexual interaction.

Certainly I find nothing wrong with that, but I always assumed BR was a dude.

9 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:17:08pm

re: #5 Alexzander

The dog in my family is 18 years old - practically a zombie already. Deaf, unpredictable, occasionally chews on his own leg.

If yer lucky!

10 Alexzander  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:17:20pm

re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth

Hmm I could be totally wrong, I may have mistakenly picked up that impression somewhere along the way.

11 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:18:03pm

re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth

Her? Interesting. I recall BR speaking of girlfriends, in a manner suggestive of intimacy and sexual interaction.

Certainly I find nothing wrong with that, but I always assumed BR was a dude.

I suppose some hard-working soul could go back and scan the comments to see if BR had ever stated (it's not a name that lends itself one way or the other).

Notice I did not volunteer. Hard-working does not currently describe me.

12 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:20:42pm

re: #7 Summer

Morning Lizards,

I just woke up and had my coffee. Then I read the guest list of The Political Cesspool, and it really reads like a "Who's Who" of the most fucked up right-wing anti-semitic and racist bastards on some sort of FBI "dangerous extremists" poster.

Great company "Nuge" keeps...and Huckabee.

Proud to say I had no idea who the vast majority were.

If you don't mind, I'm going to keep it that way.

13 Alexzander  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:21:42pm

Where are you guys located? Its not even midnight on the west coast.

14 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:23:36pm

re: #13 Alexzander

Where are you guys located? Its not even midnight on the west coast.

Oregon. I normally go to bed earlier than this, but I don't sleep until she's home anyway because I'm a mom like that.

15 Mark Winter  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:33:00pm

Keeping the money would make two people feel bad.
Returning the money would make feel two people good.

16 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:33:30pm

re: #6 EmmmieG

They put my cat down at 16. It was a relief. She had had a number of infirmities, including massive inner ear problems.

My mom has a cat that's at least 16. As fit, vocal, and mobile as it was ten years ago. Doesn't like to play, and only cares for cuddles. Always been that way. It would cuddle with a brick if it had any warmth.

It doesn't give a shit for tuna nor any other kind of fish, and turned it's nose at anything but dry kibble up until about a year ago.

Drools when you pet it, and never misses an opportunity get attention. It's pretty much the opposite of every cat you've ever heard of.

17 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:35:29pm

re: #13 Alexzander

Where are you guys located? Its not even midnight on the west coast.

West coast.

18 Kragar  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:35:42pm

re: #15 Mark Winter

Keeping the money would make two people feel bad.
Returning the money would make feel two people good.

But what if it was Hitler's wallet?

19 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:36:40pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But what if it was Hitler's wallet?

At least he wouldn't have to worry about anyone stealing his identity.

20 austin_blue  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:38:02pm

re: #19 JasonA

At least he wouldn't have to worry about anyone stealing his identity.

Now see, that's humor. Well played!

21 Mark Winter  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:38:04pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But what if it was Hitler's wallet?

I wouldn't want his money

22 Mocking Jay  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:39:18pm

re: #20 austin_blue

Now see, that's humor. Well played!

I really should be getting paid for this.

23 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:40:18pm

re: #10 Alexzander

re: #11 EmmmieG

I don't recall BR ever declaring a gender, but I do recall many comments about the attractive neighbor gal that was going to cook BR a meal, and a bit of innuendo on BR's part hinting at some fireworks afterwards.

Who knows? Meh, who cares?

24 Kragar  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:40:27pm

re: #19 JasonA

At least he wouldn't have to worry about anyone stealing his identity.

1950 things Mr. Welch can no longer do during an RPG

325. Even if he was a paragon of humanity in his alternate dimension, Good Hitler is not an appropriate superhero concept.

25 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:41:34pm

re: #3 Alexzander

Was just checking out the stalker blog and saw her name there and wondered if she really left or was just being impersonated. But I read back a bit and figured it out so nevermind. I've been doing a perusal of right-of-center blogs all evening to get a feel for the general reaction to Huckabee's decision not to run.

Brookly (who I believe is a he) got banned. There was complaining about being asked not to use a specific racial slur, disagreement about whether it was a racial slur, and then an extended, kittenish, commentary on Hunan fried rice. And the the banstick came down.

Someone using the same name showed up promptly at the stalker blog, and the writing style does not immediately scream 'phony' to me.

I hope it is a phony however. I liked Brookly--he drive me batshit crazy most of the time, but I liked him--and really, no one deserves to end up at the stalker blog.

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:41:57pm

re: #4 EmmmieG

So, the Princess, who I am currently waiting on, asked the following question:

If Parakeets came back as zombies, what would they eat?

(Yes, she has recently suffered a loss.)

Grrrraaaaaaiiiiiiinssss.

(I'm sorry about the parakeet.)

27 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:49:19pm

Posted this on an earlier thread, but I think we can all be thankful that no squirrels will be served at any state dinners now (as if the Huckster had a chance).
Image: Squirrel.jpg

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:51:13pm

re: #27 Kid A

Posted this on an earlier thread, but I think we can all be thankful that no squirrels will be served at any state dinners now (as if the Huckster had a chance).
Image: Squirrel.jpg

OK, OK, the man used to deep-fry squirrels in a popcorn popper in college. That may be a tad weird, but it's not actually illegal...

29 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:54:00pm

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, OK, the man used to deep-fry squirrels in a popcorn popper in college. That may be a tad weird, but it's not actually illegal...

Ha! Never said it was illegal! Weird, absolutely. Did you see the family portrait yet?

30 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:54:53pm

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From the list:

3. There is no Gnomish god of heavy artillery.

Bullshit! There is a Gnomish "god" for every mechanical horror that the limp wristed elves, the blundering orcs, the petty dwarves, the flighty halflings, and the short sighted humans could never conceive of.

The Gnomes call this "god" Advanced Science, and it shall rain hell on all the backwards races that scoff at it.

31 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:55:35pm

re: #29 Kid A

Ha! Never said it was illegal! Weird, absolutely. Did you see the family portrait yet?

No...do I want to?

32 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:56:42pm

re: #27 Kid A

Posted this on an earlier thread, but I think we can all be thankful that no squirrels will be served at any state dinners now (as if the Huckster had a chance).
Image: Squirrel.jpg

That's at least two things Huck and Ted have in common.

"... First thing I slayed...I was nine years old. It was a squirrel, these ladies were feeding it, you know, and I said, 'excuse me, bam.' No it wasn't a pet squirrel. I had it stuffed and petted it for years after that." - WRIF-FM, Detroit, Ted Nugent as guest D.J., September 26, 1991

Fuckin' creepy.

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:57:24pm

re: #25 SanFranciscoZionist

I liked Brookly--he drive me batshit crazy most of the time, but I liked him--and really, no one deserves to end up at the stalker blog.

Agreed, but it's not a state of deserving. It's a state of choosing.

34 Alexzander  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:57:26pm

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, OK, the man used to deep-fry squirrels in a popcorn popper in college. That may be a tad weird, but it's not actually illegal...

Wait, is this true? I really have no idea.

35 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:57:59pm

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

Agreed, but it's not a state of deserving. It's a state of choosing.

You know, Catholic doctrine teaches that we can't be sure that anyone is in hell, unless they choose to be.

36 Kragar  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:58:03pm

re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth

From the list:

Bullshit! There is a Gnomish "god" for every mechanical horror that the limp wristed elves, the blundering orcs, the petty dwarves, the flighty halflings, and the short sighted humans could never conceive of.

The Gnomes call this "god" Advanced Science, and it shall rain hell on all the backwards races that scoff at it.

39. Gnomes do not have the racial ability 'can lick their eyebrows'
40. Gnomes do not have the racial ability to hold their breath for 10 minutes.
41. Gnomes do not have the racial ability 'impromptu kickstand'

37 austin_blue  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:58:45pm

re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist

No...do I want to?

Of course you do:

Image: 2145018366_5cf0a59368.jpg

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:58:50pm

re: #34 Alexzander

Wait, is this true? I really have no idea.

According to Huckabee, yes indeed.

39 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:59:03pm

re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist

No...do I want to?

Maybe. Maybe not. Muhahahahaha!!!
Image: huckabee_11904t.jpg

40 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:59:32pm

re: #37 austin_blue

Of course you do:

Image: 2145018366_5cf0a59368.jpg

I feel bad for the dog.

41 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:59:52pm

re: #37 austin_blue

Of course you do:

Image: 2145018366_5cf0a59368.jpg

The men all look like they've escaped from a rather preppy chain gang. And the dog looks slightly manic.

42 Alexzander  Sat, May 14, 2011 11:59:56pm

re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist

You know, Catholic doctrine teaches that we can't be sure that anyone is in hell, unless they choose to be.

Hmm thats actually really interesting.

43 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:00:58am

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

The men all look like they've escaped from a rather preppy chain gang. And the dog looks slightly manic.

Still, no one looks like they're utterly distraught, or seeing Hell gape open, which makes it more cheerful than the famous Santorum family photo.

44 God of Binders with Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:01:46am

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

The men all look like they've escaped from a rather preppy chain gang. And the dog looks slightly manic.

The son in the center might want to check into becoming a vegan.

45 austin_blue  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:02:23am

re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist

The men all look like they've escaped from a rather preppy chain gang. And the dog looks slightly manic.

And the daughter is the only one that's not gynormous. But she's young.

Attention Wal-Mart shoppers!

46 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:02:44am

re: #39 Kid A

Maybe. Maybe not. Muhahahahaha!!!
Image: huckabee_11904t.jpg

Thanks, that's going to be my new image for teaching spatial vs. contrast resolution.

47 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:03:02am

I suspect the increasing scrutiny of the larger family plays heavily in the apparent anxiety towards entering the republican primary for many of the candidates. Apparently it is holding back Mitch Daniels right now.
(Sorry that first sentence was incredibly awkward.)

48 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:03:39am

re: #44 Kid A

The son in the center might want to check into becoming a vegan.

I know Huckabee lost a great deal of weight at one point, and is very enthused about Michelle's eating right programs as a result (or at least, will defend them from other Republicans, as a result). Perhaps the kids also got into healthy eating.

49 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:03:42am

re: #39 Kid A

P.S. Which one is the dog killer?

50 austin_blue  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:04:13am

re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist

Still, no one looks like they're utterly distraught, or seeing Hell gape open, which makes it more cheerful than the famous Santorum family photo.

This one?

Image: santorum_loses_1.jpg

Oh, sweet ham and eggs...

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:04:43am

re: #45 austin_blue

And the daughter is the only one that's not gynormous. But she's young.

Attention Wal-Mart shoppers!

Eh, I'm no skinny minnie myself. I do admire Huckabee for losing the weight. That's something that's quite hard to do, and he has kept it off very well, which is even harder.

52 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:05:13am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

P.S. Which one is the dog killer?

This whole Huckabee family conversation is going to give me nightmares. Typing from bed right now; my partner is fast asleep.

53 God of Binders with Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:05:53am

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

P.S. Which one is the dog killer?

The big one in the center. He bbq'ed it.

54 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:06:06am

re: #34 Alexzander

Wait, is this true? I really have no idea.

One can't be sure. I mean, the following comes from a fundie, a nanny stater and a politician, so who knows if it's really true.

55 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:06:25am

re: #50 austin_blue

This one?

Image: santorum_loses_1.jpg

Oh, sweet ham and eggs...

That really is an incredible photo. Probably a career highlight. Should be in a museum somewhere.

56 God of Binders with Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:07:13am

re: #50 austin_blue

This one?

Image: santorum_loses_1.jpg

Oh, sweet ham and eggs...

Daddy! I just Googled your name, and guess what??!!

57 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:08:54am

re: #56 Kid A

Daddy! I just Googled your name, and guess what??!!

I wonder how many Santorums there are in the US. That name is ruined for at least a decade, if not a generation.

58 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:09:54am

re: #50 austin_blue

This one?

Image: santorum_loses_1.jpg

Oh, sweet ham and eggs...

Yep. That's the one.

The son's expression gets me every time.

59 God of Binders with Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:11:12am

re: #57 Alexzander

I wonder how many Santorums there are in the US. That name is ruined for at least a decade, if not a generation.

Just the thought of this gay-hating asshole knowing that googling "Santorum" comes up with that as the top hit helps me sleep better at night.

60 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:15:13am

re: #57 Alexzander

I wonder how many Santorums there are in the US. That name is ruined for at least a decade, if not a generation.

It's also going to be hilarious for future family tree research. I see two girls talking an in a cafe on Mars. "Like, I found out my great-great-great-grandfather changed his name from 'Santorum' to 'Santorini' in 2010."

"Do you know why he changed it?"

"Yeah. It's pretty funny. There was this politician who was also named Santorum, see, and this was back in the days when a lot people still thought gay sex was sinful..."

61 Mocking Jay  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:15:21am

re: #55 Alexzander

That really is an incredible photo. Probably a career highlight. Should be in a museum somewhere.

I'd love to see that picture posted anywhere except the Santorum Presidential Library.

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:15:39am

re: #59 Kid A

Just the thought of this gay-hating asshole knowing that googling "Santorum" comes up with that as the top hit helps me sleep better at night.

Santorum acknowledges that he has 'a Google problem'.

63 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:18:08am

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

39. Gnomes do not have the racial ability 'can lick their eyebrows'
40. Gnomes do not have the racial ability to hold their breath for 10 minutes.
41. Gnomes do not have the racial ability 'impromptu kickstand'

Yeah, but I bet this is not in your racist list of propaganda:

Gnomes do have the ability "Chemistry: Mix common elements to create explosives that put any frail, pansy ass, high level wizard's 'Firerball' (oooh, scary) bullshit to shame".

Also, inherent trait 'Does not give a shit, and ain't afraid to prove it'.

So go ahead, pray to your false gods and memorize your puny spells. A Master of Mortar and Pestle lies in wait to devastate your entire army of superstitious robe knitters.

64 Kragar  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:20:15am

re: #63 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, but I bet this is not in your racist list of propaganda:

Gnomes do have the ability "Chemistry: Mix common elements to create explosives that put any frail, pansy ass, high level wizard's 'Firerball' (oooh, scary) bullshit to shame".

Also, inherent trait 'Does not give a shit, and ain't afraid to prove it'.

So go ahead, pray to your false gods and memorize your puny spells. A Master of Mortar and Pestle lies in wait to devastate your entire army of superstitious robe knitters.

Don't look at me, I always play a dwarf.

65 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:20:18am

re: #53 Kid A

The big one in the center. He bbq'ed it.

Something is really off about this society. Huckabee's son pointlessly tortures and slaughters a dog, Huckabee uses his power as Governor to make sure he gets off, and he's a major party frontrunner until he decides on his own not to seek the nomination. He decides this after jamming with Ted Nugent who proudly exclaims that at the age of nine he interrupted two women feeding a squirrel and shot it.

I think the expression on the face of Rick Santorum's son is him seeing the soulless husk of the Republican party and reacting appropriately.

66 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:22:15am

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

Something is really off about this society...

We still live in the dark ages.

67 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:22:49am

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't look at me, I always play a dwarf.

Pfft! Punks. They're good at the mechanical stuff, but they fear the hard sciences.

68 Kragar  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:23:59am

re: #67 Slumbering Behemoth

Pfft! Punks. They're good at the mechanical stuff, but they fear the hard sciences.

With a big enough axe, one can move the world.

69 austin_blue  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:24:53am

re: #58 SanFranciscoZionist

Yep. That's the one.

The son's expression gets me every time.

Perhaps it's knowing that Dad is going to force him to wear that Opus Dei cilice

Image: File:Cilice3.jpg

once he hits puberty.

"Thou shalt be a numerary until marriage!"

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:27:49am

re: #69 austin_blue

Perhaps it's knowing that Dad is going to force him to wear that Opus Dei cilice

Image: File:Cilice3.jpg

once he hits puberty.

"Thou shalt be a numerary until marriage!"

OY.

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:29:27am

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And with the most basic understanding of the elements, a pinch of well mixed powder can thwart that giant axe.

Stay in your cave, stumpy. I'm sure there's a primitive steam engine there that your people are still struggling to understand.

72 austin_blue  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:29:40am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

OY.

Indeed! Mortification of the flesh is not for sissy boys. Real men bleed for their faith.

Sheesh.

73 Kragar  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:32:46am

re: #71 Slumbering Behemoth

And with the most basic understanding of the elements, a pinch of well mixed powder can thwart that giant axe.

Stay in your cave, stumpy. I'm sure there's a primitive steam engine there that your people are still struggling to understand.

I got your primitive steam engine right here, footstool.

74 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:37:16am

re: #72 austin_blue

Indeed! Mortification of the flesh is not for sissy boys. Real men bleed for their faith.

Sheesh.

Apparently Madonna is looking away from Kabbalah, and into Opus Dei. I hope to God this is true, because then we might be able to get the bendel back, and also stop seeing all these pieces of jewelry with the SUPER SECRET combinations of letters on them.

I loved the spring some years ago when all these celebrities were going to 'Kabbalah seders'. Camryn Manheim was asked if she was going to one, and she explained that no, she was going to an actual seder.

I adore Camryn Manheim.

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:44:30am

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I got your primitive steam engine right here, footstool.

What's that, a sheep shooter? Pathetic.

Check this out... Boo Yah!

That's right, bitch. We make mountains fly. Now what? NOW WHAT?!?!

Pretty much makes you dirt herders look like a dwarf pecker at an elf orgy.

Fuck yeah! Double Burn!

76 Kragar  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:48:57am

re: #75 Slumbering Behemoth

What's that, a sheep shooter? Pathetic.

Check this out... Boo Yah!

That's right, bitch. We make mountains fly. Now what? NOW WHAT?!?!

Pretty much makes you dirt herders look like a dwarf pecker at an elf orgy.

Fuck yeah! Double Burn!

Just a castle? We got whole asteroids, flying thru the stars.

I'd link a gnome ship, but there doesn't seem to be any.

77 Irenicum  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:53:03am

re: #1 Alexzander

I hope not. I've had my own issues with him/her, but always enjoy a good contest of wills.

78 austin_blue  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:53:53am

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently Madonna is looking away from Kabbalah, and into Opus Dei. I hope to God this is true, because then we might be able to get the bendel back, and also stop seeing all these pieces of jewelry with the SUPER SECRET combinations of letters on them.

I loved the spring some years ago when all these celebrities were going to 'Kabbalah seders'. Camryn Manheim was asked if she was going to one, and she explained that no, she was going to an actual seder.

I adore Camryn Manheim.

Yup, she's a hoot.

Night all. It's late. Be well.

79 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:56:34am

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I bow to your superior nerdom. Spelljammer? Well played.

/Does my giant space hamster intimidate you? Don't lie.

80 Kragar  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:00:06am

re: #79 Slumbering Behemoth

I bow to your superior nerdom. Spelljammer? Well played.

/Does my giant space hamster intimidate you? Don't lie.

The fact its a miniature giant space hamster does place a limit somewhat on the majesty

81 Irenicum  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:05:17am

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

From Kabbalah to Opus Dei? Oy gevalt! Talk about jumping from the fire to the frying pan! What is it about these souls that so desperately need secret knowledge?

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:10:56am

re: #80 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The fact its a miniature giant space hamster does place a limit somewhat on the majesty

Bah. That's for that goofy bastard Bioware coddled. He's clearly touched.

I'm talking about an authentic giant space hamster. The kind my folk used to power our ships.

Heh, I can't blame you for pretending not to have a link to any gnome ships. Your shame is obvious.

83 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:14:31am

re: #13 Alexzander

Where are you guys located? Its not even midnight on the west coast.

San Francisco Bay Area

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:25:33am

Anyhow, I'm knocking off.

High five to Kragar, for indulging my inner D&D nerd. I never truly lived it, but I've read enough to fake it.

If I had grown up in an environment of oblong dice and worn out pencils, I so would have been that guy. But I grew up somewhere else.

Not saying one thing is better than the other. Just sayin'.

Thanks for indulging me, bro.

85 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:34:19am

re: #81 Irenicum

From Kabbalah to Opus Dei? Oy gevalt! Talk about jumping from the fire to the frying pan! What is it about these souls that so desperately need secret knowledge?

Unclear.

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:34:43am

re: #83 eclectic infidel

San Francisco Bay Area

Hey dude. We did Grand Lake this morning.

No drama.

87 AK-47%  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:40:31am

re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist

You know, Catholic doctrine teaches that we can't be sure that anyone is in hell, unless they choose to be.

Or, to quote George Carlin on the nature of mortal sin: "We were taught that it requires full consent of the will. You gotta wanna. In fact 'wanna' is a sin in itself. If you say 'I'm gonna go down to Times Square and commit a mortal sin', save your cab fare! You already have"

88 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:11:46am

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

Hey dude. We did Grand Lake this morning.

No drama.

Good to know, but I'm done with street activism unless I'm infiltrating the other side.

89 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:19:02am

re: #88 eclectic infidel

Good to know, but I'm done with street activism unless I'm infiltrating the other side.

S'okay.

We had our signage, they had their signage. One screaming cabbie. No worries.

90 laZardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:23:19am
91 freetoken  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:04:31am
92 researchok  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:35:16am

Morning, all

93 researchok  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:39:29am

re: #91 freetoken

[Video]

Nice! Good choice.

94 laZardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:57:07am

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently Madonna is looking away from Kabbalah, and into Opus Dei. I hope to God this is true, because then we might be able to get the bendel back, and also stop seeing all these pieces of jewelry with the SUPER SECRET combinations of letters on them.

But then what will I do with all my decoder rings?

/i miss cereal box toys ;_;

95 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 4:32:53am

re: #94 laZardo

I ate at a fancy restaurant recently that gave out those little lead figurines of kinghts and stuff to everyone. I got a monk. I was happy.

96 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 15, 2011 4:37:07am
97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 15, 2011 4:41:29am

re: #95 Obdicut

Lead? Must've been made in China.

These have lead in them to, from China.

As do these, from China.

98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 15, 2011 4:52:55am
99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 15, 2011 4:59:57am

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But what if it was Hitler's wallet?

Way to Godwin the thread.

100 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 5:04:27am

Morning folks. 11 1/2 hours and counting to the show this evening:

Cake: Sick Of You

101 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 5:14:16am

Wake up! Everyone loves Cake. where's WUB when I need him?


Federal Funding:

102 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 15, 2011 5:14:58am

Good. Been up all night, waiting for the thread to pass the "off topic" limit. 'Mornin, all.

103 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 15, 2011 5:17:40am

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently Madonna is looking away from Kabbalah, and into Opus Dei. I hope to God this is true, because then we might be able to get the bendel back, and also stop seeing all these pieces of jewelry with the SUPER SECRET combinations of letters on them.

I loved the spring some years ago when all these celebrities were going to 'Kabbalah seders'. Camryn Manheim was asked if she was going to one, and she explained that no, she was going to an actual seder.

I adore Camryn Manheim.

Madonna thinks "Opus Dei" is the worldly arm of Berekley Breathed.

104 laZardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 5:29:57am

re: #101 RogueOne

Wake up! Everyone loves Cake.

"LIAR!" - Rat Man

/formerly attributed to GLaDOS, updated with sequel.

105 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:14:34am

Sunday greetings, all.

106 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:14:41am

re: #74 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently Madonna is looking away from Kabbalah, and into Opus Dei. I hope to God this is true, because then we might be able to get the bendel back, and also stop seeing all these pieces of jewelry with the SUPER SECRET combinations of letters on them.

I loved the spring some years ago when all these celebrities were going to 'Kabbalah seders'. Camryn Manheim was asked if she was going to one, and she explained that no, she was going to an actual seder.

I adore Camryn Manheim.

I hope this is just a rumor. I sell a bunch of Kabbalah jewelry at the Zionist Mall!

107 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:17:56am

It is Sunday, isn't it? Sometimes I lose track, gah.

108 Varek Raith  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:18:46am

What's up Wastelanders?

109 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:23:02am

re: #107 ambi

It is Sunday, isn't it? Sometimes I lose track, gah.

The Big Lebowski: Are you employed, sir?
The Dude: Employed?
The Big Lebowski: You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that? On a weekday?
The Dude: Is this a... what day is this?

110 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:24:45am

re: #109 Obdicut

The Big Lebowski: Are you employed, sir?
The Dude: Employed?
The Big Lebowski: You don't go out looking for a job dressed like that? On a weekday?
The Dude: Is this a... what day is this?

Yeah well, that's just, ya know, like, your opinion, man.

111 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:26:52am

re: #108 Varek Raith

What's up Wastelanders?

I really want to re-play Fallout 3, but I don't feel like sitting through the 730 hours of unskippable intro cutscenes.


So instead, I'll post Henry Rollins talking about the murder of his best friend. That's a good way to make everyone's day brighter.

112 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:30:32am

re: #63 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, but I bet this is not in your racist list of propaganda:

Gnomes do have the ability "Chemistry: Mix common elements to create explosives that put any frail, pansy ass, high level wizard's 'Firerball' (oooh, scary) bullshit to shame".

Also, inherent trait 'Does not give a shit, and ain't afraid to prove it'.

So go ahead, pray to your false gods and memorize your puny spells. A Master of Mortar and Pestle lies in wait to devastate your entire army of superstitious robe knitters.

So Gnomes are Honey Badgers?

113 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:33:49am

re: #107 ambi

It is Sunday, isn't it? Sometimes I lose track, gah.

So did I

Then I bought this wonderful device and hung it on a wall

In some parts of the world, they call it a calendar

114 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:35:13am

re: #113 sattv4u2

So did I

Then I bought this wonderful device and hung it on a wall

In some parts of the world, they call it a calendar

A calendar doesn't tell you what today is, silly.

115 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:35:14am

re: #113 sattv4u2

So did I

Then I bought this wonderful device and hung it on a wall

In some parts of the world, they call it a calendar

Sounds foreign, what the hell do they know.

116 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:36:04am

re: #114 ambi

A calendar doesn't tell you what today is, silly.

No, but my answering machine does!

117 Winny Spencer  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:36:04am

re: #111 negativ

I really want to re-play Fallout 3, but I don't feel like sitting through the 730 hours of unskippable intro cutscenes.

So instead, I'll post Henry Rollins talking about the murder of his best friend. That's a good way to make everyone's day brighter.

[Video]

Re-play New Vegas instead.

118 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:37:03am

re: #116 sattv4u2

No, but my answering machine does!

Well, I guess I need to hang your answering machine on my wall.

119 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:39:00am

re: #118 ambi

Well, I guess I need to hang your answering machine on my wall.

That'll work

That way, when the bill collectors call, the message I have on the machine that "I'm not home" won't be a lie!

120 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:39:02am

re: #111 negativ

I really want to re-play Fallout 3, but I don't feel like sitting through the 730 hours of unskippable intro cutscenes.

So instead, I'll post Henry Rollins talking about the murder of his best friend. That's a good way to make everyone's day brighter.

[Video]

Linguiça will make your day brighter. Enjoy!

121 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:40:10am

re: #119 sattv4u2

That'll work

That way, when the bill collectors call, the message I have on the machine that "I'm not home" won't be a lie!

So your answering machine hangs on a wall, states the day, and declares that satt is not home.

Clever little bugger.

122 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:40:42am

re: #120 ambi

Linguiça will make your day brighter. Enjoy!


Haven't found any good Linguiça since moving south!!

123 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:41:21am

re: #121 ambi

So your answering machine hangs on a wall, states the day, and declares that satt is not home.

Clever little bugger.

Who said it's little?

124 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:42:47am

re: #122 sattv4u2

Haven't found any good Linguiça since moving south!!

Hawaii is a southern spot with very good linguiça. Of course, you have to eat it with spam, eggs, fried rice, papaya and sashimi, but otherwise.....

125 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:43:55am

re: #123 sattv4u2

Who said it's little?

Do I have to buy special hardware to mount this legendary answering machine?

126 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:44:58am

re: #125 ambi

Do I have to buy special hardware to mount this legendary answering machine?

Sorry. I'm old and not very PC

I don't call it "special"

I still use the word handicap!

127 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:45:58am

re: #124 ambi

Hawaii is a southern spot with very good linguiça. Of course, you have to eat it with spam, eggs, fried rice, papaya and sashimi, but otherwise...

"Yes, I'll have the Linguiça, but hold the spam, fried rice, papaya and sashimi and make the eggs scrambled"

128 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:46:16am

re: #126 sattv4u2

Sorry. I'm old and not very PC

I don't call it "special"

I still use the word handicap!

Is your answering machine a mellotron? I'm starting to wonder.

129 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:47:17am

re: #128 ambi

Is your answering machine a mellotron? I'm starting to wonder.

I've never asked it what religion it is

130 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:47:27am

re: #127 sattv4u2

"Yes, I'll have the Linguiça, but hold the spam, fried rice, papaya and sashimi and make the eggs scrambled"

[smiles]

131 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:48:53am

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

[smiles]

Smile all you want, but you're not getting any of my linguiça

You are, however, welcome to all the spam you care for

132 peterb  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:49:34am

Has anyone commented on this yet?

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

"Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?" The front page of the Independent calls her "the Queen of the extremist bloggers"

133 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:51:39am

Tree kiau and Linguiça fo da naispela meri. Hariap!

134 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:51:53am

re: #132 peterb

What does that have to do with handicapped religious answering machines or spam!?!?!?!

135 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:52:15am

re: #132 peterb

Has anyone commented on this yet?

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

"Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?" The front page of the Independent calls her "the Queen of the extremist bloggers"

page it!

136 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:52:33am

re: #133 ambi

Tree kiau and Linguiça fo da naispela meri. Hariap!

cat walk on your keyboard?

137 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:52:38am

re: #134 sattv4u2

What does that have to do with handicapped religious answering machines or spam!?!?!?!

Hey, Satt!
I see you are in fine form this morning!

138 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:53:32am

re: #132 peterb

Has anyone commented on this yet?

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

"Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?" The front page of the Independent calls her "the Queen of the extremist bloggers"

That's a really rough looking photo.

139 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:54:03am

re: #137 reine.de.tout

Hey, Satt!
I see you are in fine form this morning!

Amazing what a good night sleep can do for me

Well,, that and the Red Sox beating the Yankees two games in a row!!

((grumble grumble,, don't mention the Bruins or the Celtics and nobody gets hurt!!)))

140 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:54:18am

re: #136 sattv4u2

cat walk on your keyboard?

Pidgin? What one hears in Hawaii. I ordered your eggs and inguiça in a hurry. What more can I do to serve?

141 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:56:11am

re: #140 ambi

should be linguiça, not inguiça.

142 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:56:16am

re: #140 ambi

Pidgin? What one hears in Hawaii. I ordered your eggs and inguiça in a hurry. What more can I do to serve?

Lessee,,, A one way 1st class ticket TO Hawaii in my name at the Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta about noonish tomorrow

(would be today, but I need time to pack, get a new bathing suit and a divorce)

143 peterb  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:57:17am

re: #135 reine.de.tout

page it!

Done. Thanks for the suggestion! I haven't paged anything before....

144 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:58:33am

re: #143 peterb

Done. Thanks for the suggestion! I haven't paged anything before...

I have

But that was decades ago

Paged someone named Phillip Morris. Had a little bellhop do it for me

145 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:58:45am

re: #142 sattv4u2

Lessee,,, A one way 1st class ticket TO Hawaii in my name at the Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta about noonish tomorrow

(would be today, but I need time to pack, get a new bathing suit and a divorce)

What day is tomorrow again? I get confused.

146 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 6:59:39am

re: #145 ambi

What day is tomorrow again? I get confused.

Well, now that you have my handicapped religious answering machine on YOUR wall, shouldn't I be asking YOU that question!!

147 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:00:21am

re: #144 sattv4u2

I have

But that was decades ago

Paged someone named Phillip Morris. Had a little bellhop do it for me

Have you ever heard those soundfiles of people being paged at airports with foreign sounding/spelled names that, when read, are actually funny?

148 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:01:12am

re: #146 sattv4u2

Well, now that you have my handicapped religious answering machine on YOUR wall, shouldn't I be asking YOU that question!!

I still don't have the mounting hardware. The poor answering machine remains unmounted.

149 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:02:17am

re: #148 ambi

I still don't have the mounting hardware. The poor answering machine remains unmounted.

Oh ,, where we could go with that opening line!!!

150 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:03:04am

re: #147 ambi

Have you ever heard those soundfiles of people being paged at airports with foreign sounding/spelled names that, when read, are actually funny?

I don't listen to soundfiles

The voices in my head told me they're evil

151 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:03:05am

re: #146 sattv4u2

Well, now that you have my handicapped religious answering machine on YOUR wall, shouldn't I be asking YOU that question!!

And through what kind of magical teleportation did this answering arrive on my doorstep, a full day before you can even get to Hawaii? Hmmmph.

152 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:04:34am

re: #151 ambi

And through what kind of magical teleportation did this answering arrive on my doorstep, a full day before you can even get to Hawaii? Hmmmph.

Well, if you knew what day it was you'd have known we already had this conversation about a month ago and it was shipped Fed Ex. !

153 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:06:02am

Now I remember why I don't read the Independent very often:

McDonald's linked to crackdown in Belarus
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]


McDonald's has been accused of turning a blind eye to gross human rights violations in Belarus after evidence from the global fast-food chain was used by prosecutors in the trials of pro-democracy activists.

Scores of anti-government protesters, including five former presidential candidates who ran against strongman Alexander Lukashenko last year, are being hauled before courts in one of the worst crackdowns in the quasi-Soviet state in recent years.
.......
Copies of indictments obtained by The Independent show that among the charges is the allegation that protesters caused 8.4m roubles (£1,680) of damage to a McDonald's branch which had to close. Campaigners say the figure must have been provided by McDonald's which has kept silent on the crackdown.

154 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:09:57am

re: #153 RogueOne

Now I remember why I don't read the Independent very often:

Why?

155 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:10:25am

re: #132 peterb

Has anyone commented on this yet?

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

"Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?" The front page of the Independent calls her "the Queen of the extremist bloggers"

Sorry about the delay is responding, but the image of the Shrieking Harpy made my PC freeze. Short Summary of the article: Hateful Harpy is Hateful.

156 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:10:42am

re: #150 sattv4u2

I don't listen to soundfiles

The voices in my head told me they're evil

Get in the mood, you old galoot.

Here.

[Link: www.webtvhub.com...]

157 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:12:32am

re: #152 sattv4u2

Well, if you knew what day it was you'd have known we already had this conversation about a month ago and it was shipped Fed Ex. !

I only registered here in the last couple of days. You have a strange sense of time, or maybe you are a time traveler.

158 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:14:10am

re: #157 ambi

I only registered here in the last couple of days. You have a strange sense of time, or maybe you are a time traveler.

This is the only place where you've ever conversation,,, EVER??

Thats just ,,, sad!

159 sattv4u2  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:14:46am

And on that note, I take my leave

160 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:14:55am

re: #153 RogueOne

Now I remember why I don't read the Independent very often:

McDonald's linked to crackdown in Belarus
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

I don't think McDonald's did anything wrong there. The protestors damaged its restaurant and it helped police identify them. If it was a legitimate political protest, they would have left the McDonald's alone. Once protestors turn to property destruction (especially that of American companies) they lose all sympathy in my eyes and become punk kids in need of a beatdown.

161 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:15:13am

re: #158 sattv4u2

This is the only place where you've ever conversation,,, EVER??

Thats just ,,, sad!

I think that's supposed to be an insult but it doesn't even make sense.

162 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:16:21am

re: #154 negativ

Why?

The headline scream of "McDonald's linked to crackdown in Belarus" which sounds pretty ominous but turns out to be McDonalds filed an insurance claim. That's not a "link to a crackdown".

163 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:18:30am

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

I don't think McDonald's did anything wrong there. The protestors damaged its restaurant and it helped police identify them. If it was a legitimate political protest, they would have left the McDonald's alone. Once protestors turn to property destruction (especially that of American companies) they lose all sympathy in my eyes and become punk kids in need of a beatdown.

They didn't even do that. The accusation is McDonalds told the police how much damage was done to their property.

164 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:19:27am

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

I don't think McDonald's did anything wrong there. The protestors damaged its restaurant and it helped police identify them. If it was a legitimate political protest, they would have left the McDonald's alone. Once protestors turn to property destruction (especially that of American companies) they lose all sympathy in my eyes and become punk kids in need of a beatdown.

165 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:21:59am

re: #132 peterb

Has anyone commented on this yet?

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

"Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?" The front page of the Independent calls her "the Queen of the extremist bloggers"

There are probably a few things that I would do with her makeup. She could come across as somewhat seemly, but I'm afraid she doesn't know which products work best with her.

166 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:27:45am

re: #163 RogueOne

They didn't even do that. The accusation is McDonalds told the police how much damage was done to their property.

Agreed. But the Independent doesn't like McDonald's (MCD) that much (given their past reporting that seems clear) so they took the story and used to go after MCD's. Fox News does the same sort of thing.

167 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:31:09am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. But the Independent doesn't like McDonald's (MCD) that much (given their past reporting that seems clear) so they took the story and used to go after MCD's. Fox News does the same sort of thing.

It made it sound like McD's has it's own secret police helping keep the citizens of Belarus down. Ronald McDonald has ways to make you talk and he's not afraid to use them....

168 theye1  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:31:48am

I've just heard from a friend in Lebanon, apparently armed Groups backed are going to fire rockets into Israel, hoping to provoke a response.

169 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:32:10am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. But the Independent doesn't like McDonald's (MCD) that much (given their past reporting that seems clear) so they took the story and used to go after MCD's. Fox News does the same sort of thing.

What is there not to like about McDonalds? Decent food at a low price. You like beef, get a Big Mac. You like seafood, get a Filet-O-Fish. It hardly seems worth getting into a big wrankle. They always ask me if I want extra ketchup. That's a nice touch. I know that sometimes they screw up your order, but they usually work that out.

This hardly seems a target, given the number of people they employee. Are we hating on employers now, too?

170 theye1  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:32:28am

I've just heard from a friend in Lebanon, apparently armed Groups backed by Syria are going to fire rockets into Israel, hoping to provoke a response.

171 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:33:28am

re: #169 ambi

What is there not to like about McDonalds? Decent food at a low price. You like beef, get a Big Mac. You like seafood, get a Filet-O-Fish. It hardly seems worth getting into a big wrankle. They always ask me if I want extra ketchup. That's a nice touch. I know that sometimes they screw up your order, but they usually work that out.

This hardly seems a target, given the number of people they employee. Are we hating on employers now, too?

Typo. That last 'employee' should have been 'employ'.

172 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:34:54am

re: #169 ambi

What is there not to like about McDonalds? Decent food at a low price. You like beef, get a Big Mac. You like seafood, get a Filet-O-Fish. It hardly seems worth getting into a big wrankle. They always ask me if I want extra ketchup. That's a nice touch. I know that sometimes they screw up your order, but they usually work that out.

This hardly seems a target, given the number of people they employee. Are we hating on employers now, too?

I miss the days when it was easier to tell whether stuff like this was intended to be taken seriously.

173 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:35:02am

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

Sorry about the delay is responding, but the image of the Shrieking Harpy made my PC freeze. Short Summary of the article: Hateful Harpy is Hateful.

Heh, that is a nice pic.

174 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:36:19am

re: #169 ambi

What is there not to like about McDonalds? Decent food at a low price. You like beef, get a Big Mac. You like seafood, get a Filet-O-Fish. It hardly seems worth getting into a big wrankle. They always ask me if I want extra ketchup. That's a nice touch. I know that sometimes they screw up your order, but they usually work that out.

This hardly seems a target, given the number of people they employee. Are we hating on employers now, too?

Some people are. McDonald's got hated on here by some people for holding a national hiring day last month. Every store that could reasonably support one or more additional positions worked to hire for them and McDonald's hired thousands of people. But to some. those are just lousy McJobs and unworthy of giving any credit. Its true that fast food doesn't pay well, but McDonald's was doing their part within their business model. I was glad they did it.

175 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:37:42am

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. But the Independent doesn't like McDonald's (MCD) that much (given their past reporting that seems clear) so they took the story and used to go after MCD's. Fox News does the same sort of thing.

Yeah, McDonalds is often seen as a symbol of American cultural imperialism. It's wise to take the rumor with a grain of salt.

176 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:38:36am

re: #172 negativ

I miss the days when it was easier to tell whether stuff like this was intended to be taken seriously.

Do you think there are better stories to report on?

177 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:40:35am

re: #175 Killgore Trout

Yeah, McDonalds is often seen as a symbol of American cultural imperialism. It's wise to take the rumor with a grain of salt.

Exactly how a restaurant is supposed to be 'imperialist' is something I don't understand. My take is that The Independent was just venting its overall butthurt about America.

178 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:41:31am

They should have used this photo of Ronald McDonald directly involved in beating rioters:

Image: ronald-mcdonald-pictures.jpg

179 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:41:42am

re: #175 Killgore Trout

Yeah, McDonalds is often seen as a symbol of American cultural imperialism. It's wise to take the rumor with a grain of salt.

As long as their business model supports hiring people - in a climate where jobs are sorely needed - it's hard for me to lament on their shortcomings, which I'm sure they have.

180 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:47:24am

re: #174 Dark_Falcon

Some people are. McDonald's got hated on here by some people for holding a national hiring day last month. Every store that could reasonably support one or more additional positions worked to hire for them and McDonald's hired thousands of people. But to some. those are just lousy McJobs and unworthy of giving any credit. Its true that fast food doesn't pay well, but McDonald's was doing their part within their business model. I was glad they did it.

I should note that "here" in this context meant 'in the US'. Nobody on LGF did any of that hating.

181 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:48:05am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

When there are corporations actually paying for labor leaders to be assassinated, and owning factories that are degrading, terrible sweatshops, hating on McDonalds seems very 1980s.

182 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:49:29am

re: #181 Obdicut

When there are corporations actually paying for labor leaders to be assassinated, and owning factories that are degrading, terrible sweatshops, hating on McDonalds seems very 1980s.

Who is paying to have labor leaders killed? Is this in the U.S.?

183 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:50:33am

re: #132 peterb

Has anyone commented on this yet?

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

"Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?" The front page of the Independent calls her "the Queen of the extremist bloggers"

yikes

Image: tIiXb.jpg

which reads to me as

Image: 2da74.jpg

184 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:51:24am

re: #183 negativ

yikes

Image: tIiXb.jpg

which reads to me as

Image: 2da74.jpg

Why so serious?

185 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:52:21am

re: #182 ambi

Who is paying to have labor leaders killed? Is this in the U.S.?

No, mostly Venezuala, Brazil, the Phillipines, Mexico, and Columbia. Some of the other Asian states too but I forget which ones.

186 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:53:44am

re: #185 Obdicut

No, mostly Venezuala, Brazil, the Phillipines, Mexico, and Columbia. Some of the other Asian states too but I forget which ones.

Ah ok. I thought you may have been referring to something happening here. And I'm relieved to know that you're not.

187 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:55:26am

re: #185 Obdicut

No, mostly Venezuala, Brazil, the Phillipines, Mexico, and Columbia. Some of the other Asian states too but I forget which ones.

Columbia hasn't had that kind of labor trouble in 10 years. Uribe put an end to it when he forced the Autodefencias (right wing paramilitaries) to disband.

188 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:55:58am

re: #183 negativ

The interview with Geller makes me very sad. It's pretty clear that she loves the attention, and that that's a prime motivator. In addition, I'd kind of forgotten the title of her blog; it's really bizarre that she likes Rand so much, given Rand's intense anti-religious attitude. Why is someone who's main focus is anti-Islam in all forms a fan of Ayn Rand? Does she think Rand was only against fanatical religion, or something?

189 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:56:04am

re: #140 ambi

Pidgin? What one hears in Hawaii. I ordered your eggs and inguiça in a hurry. What more can I do to serve?

Ooee aka laya moo moo to you too.

Felu mele iki bobo.

190 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:57:27am

re: #188 Obdicut

The interview with Geller makes me very sad. It's pretty clear that she loves the attention, and that that's a prime motivator. In addition, I'd kind of forgotten the title of her blog; it's really bizarre that she likes Rand so much, given Rand's intense anti-religious attitude. Why is someone who's main focus is anti-Islam in all forms a fan of Ayn Rand? Does she think Rand was only against fanatical religion, or something?

I don't think she actually engages in systemic thought. She's not exactly Lionel Trilling or William F. Buckley after all.

191 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:57:37am

re: #183 negativ

yikes

Image: tIiXb.jpg

which reads to me as

Image: 2da74.jpg

Botox gone bad.

192 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 7:58:34am

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

Columbia hasn't had that kind of labor trouble in 10 years. Uribe put an end to it when he forced the Autodefencias (right wing paramilitaries) to disband.

That'd be nice if it were true, Dark, but you're wrong.

[Link: infosurhoy.com...]

Luis Germán Restrepo Maldonado, a labor leader who was an advocate of a controversial trade accord with the United States, was fatally shot in Medellín, officials said on Aug. 13. Restrepo, 58, was fatally shot in a coffee shop, but police have not released the motive for the killing. Restrepo, who led the Sintraempaques union of packaging workers, stood out from many of the country’s labor leaders because he was a proponent of the 2006 trade agreement between Colombia and the U.S. that is pending approval from the U.S. Congress. Restrepo’s slaying occurred in the wake of a recent report by the International Trade Union Confederation that documented 48 of the world’s 101 killings of labor activists last year took place in Colombia.

That was last year.

193 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:00:49am

re: #188 Obdicut

The interview with Geller makes me very sad. It's pretty clear that she loves the attention, and that that's a prime motivator. In addition, I'd kind of forgotten the title of her blog; it's really bizarre that she likes Rand so much, given Rand's intense anti-religious attitude. Why is someone who's main focus is anti-Islam in all forms a fan of Ayn Rand? Does she think Rand was only against fanatical religion, or something?

You point out an interesting contradiction. Rand, as I recall, was so libertarian that any seemingly coercive social stigma or force was repulsive. Not so hard to follow on that she was not a real fan of religion.

My only guess with regards to Frau Geller is that since she is libertarian up to the point of forsaking the religion she belongs to, she feel 98% in concert Frau Rand. Plausible, sir?

194 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:00:58am

re: #192 Obdicut

That'd be nice if it were true, Dark, but you're wrong.

[Link: infosurhoy.com...]

That was last year.

i hadn't heard about that. I will note for the record that he actually favored the free trade pact. Unlikely it was a corporate killing. Probably leftists who didn't like his "betrayal".

195 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:02:08am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

As an aside, I will note that NAFTA has not done the US or Mexico any favors.

196 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:02:56am

re: #193 ambi

You point out an interesting contradiction. Rand, as I recall, was so libertarian that any seemingly coercive social stigma or force was repulsive. Not so hard to follow on that she was not a real fan of religion.

My only guess with regards to Frau Geller is that since she is libertarian up to the point of forsaking the religion she belongs to, she feel 98% in concert Frau Rand. Plausible, sir?

Today's wingnuts have created a fictionalized version of Rand just like they did with Reagan and the founding fathers.

197 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:03:32am

re: #189 darthstar

Ooee aka laya moo moo to you too.

[Video]Felu mele iki bobo.

Did you mean layla?

198 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:05:27am

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Today's wingnuts have created a fictionalized version of Rand just like they did with Reagan and the founding fathers.

Well, I never thought Reagan was the extreme conservative holy grail that both the left and right like to uphold as enemy, or friend. So I think we are in agreement there.

199 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:06:44am

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

i hadn't heard about that. I will note for the record that he actually favored the free trade pact. Unlikely it was a corporate killing. Probably leftists who didn't like his "betrayal".

Or a corporation that wouldn't do well because of it. Or a drug lord who prefers less US involvement. Impossible to tell. I wasn't blaming that one specifically on anyone-- I was more noting that in one year, 48 labor leaders got killed in Columbia.

200 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:07:15am

re: #197 ambi

Did you mean layla?

I learned all my Hawaiian from Joe Isuzu...and my irreverent brother.

Aloha, motherfuckers!

201 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:07:41am

re: #196 Killgore Trout

Today's wingnuts have created a fictionalized version of Rand just like they did with Reagan and the founding fathers.

Some people have a very hard time accepting the ambiguities and contradictions of actual people. Therefore they insist on purging those they like of all flaws, since (for some wingnuts) any liberal support of a liberal policy (such as Reagan supporting a gun control law in California) makes one EVIL!!1. It's an attitude of someone who needs to feel they are on the side of the angels. Real political life is too complicated for them.

202 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:08:42am

President Obama’s Chili recipe

On the colder days this week, enjoy President Obama’s very own chili recipe from Clara Silverstein’s “A White House Garden Cookbook: Healthy Ideas from the First Family for Your Family” as she captures recipes from First Families, past and present.

203 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:09:14am

Just heard Huckabee's "big announcement"...I didn't realize he ended his "I'm not running" sentence with a sales pitch for "Mike Huckabee Endorsements, Incorporated" - for the right price, he could even campaign for President Obama.

204 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:09:21am

re: #193 ambi

Rand unequivocally stated that religion was terrible and stupid and horrible and pretty much the ultimate evil as far as Objectivism goes. She said:

Faith is the worst curse of mankind, as the exact antithesis and enemy of thought.

I hadn't heard that Geller was completely non-religiously Jewish. I thought she was at least semi-observant.

205 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:09:44am

re: #200 darthstar

I learned all my Hawaiian from Joe Isuzu...and my irreverent brother.

Aloha, motherfuckers!

Nice, tho that particular phrase will likely not be accepted at most places in which you might be wearing shoes.

206 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:11:39am

re: #204 Obdicut

Rand unequivocally stated that religion was terrible and stupid and horrible and pretty much the ultimate evil as far as Objectivism goes. She said:

I hadn't heard that Geller was completely non-religiously Jewish. I thought she was at least semi-observant.

Yes. I don't think that we are in disagreement. I was merely suggesting that perhaps Geller views Rand as a sort of frenemy, and embraces her in convenient situations.

207 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:12:06am

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

Some people have a very hard time accepting the ambiguities and contradictions of actual people. Therefore they insist on purging those they like of all flaws, since (for some wingnuts) any liberal support of a liberal policy (such as Reagan supporting a gun control law in California) makes one EVIL!!1. It's an attitude of someone who needs to feel they are on the side of the angels. Real political life is too complicated for them.

Very well said. They also somehow overlook that Reagan was a union leader for a long time.

208 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:12:09am

re: #202 Killgore Trout

President Obama’s Chili recipe

Turmeric! He's got muslim spices in his chili!

209 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:13:07am

re: #202 Killgore Trout

President Obama’s Chili recipe

OMG!!!111 THE OBAMAS ARE LITERALLY TRYING TO FORCE LIBERAL IDEAS DOWN OUR THROATS IN FOOD!!!111 ONLY MY SURVIVAL RATIONS ARE SAFE!!!111

/Glenn Beck

210 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:13:11am

re: #206 ambi

Yes. I don't think that we are in disagreement. I was merely suggesting that perhaps Geller views Rand as a sort of frenemy, and embraces her in convenient situations.

I think that's probably true, but she still named her blog after one of her books, which kind of indicates a total devotion. Yet the blog doesn't really endorse Objectivism in general, especially since Objectivism is highly isolationist and wouldn't be in favor of military adventurism in general.

211 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:13:25am

Morning all!

How is everyone?

212 allegro  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:14:21am

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Whoa! That ain't chili! It's got beans in it and then sez to serve it over rice?

That is so wrong on so many levels.

213 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:14:42am

re: #206 ambi

Yes. I don't think that we are in disagreement. I was merely suggesting that perhaps Geller views Rand as a sort of frenemy, and embraces her in convenient situations.

Geller, Breitbart, etc. are all frenemies of convenience. Their primary objective is to get more attention (and hopefully the money will come). If that means stabbing each other in the back, then so be it...they can re-ally themselves in a heartbeat because their audience is as unthinking as they come.

214 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:16:23am

re: #208 darthstar

Turmeric! He's got muslim spices in his chili!

Alien spice!

215 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:16:56am

I think Geller is past being a representative of any cause or ideology. She is a representative of Club Pamela and nothing else.

Sudden attention and invitations to be included in "big" groups can cause an sort of identity crisis. I think we are seeing the outcome with more people than just Pamela.

216 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:18:49am

re: #215 ggt

I think Geller is past being a representative of any cause or ideology. She is a representative of Club Pamela and nothing else.

Sudden attention and invitations to be included in "big" groups can cause an sort of identity crisis. I think we are seeing the outcome with more people than just Pamela.

What's interesting is I'm not seeing a whole lot of right wing blogs defending her this morning. She's an embarrassment even to the more dishonest right wing blogs, I think they prefer she'd just go away.

217 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:19:41am

Someone be nice and define: frenemies.

Thank you.

218 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:19:59am

re: #210 Obdicut

I think that's probably true, but she still named her blog after one of her books, which kind of indicates a total devotion. Yet the blog doesn't really endorse Objectivism in general, especially since Objectivism is highly isolationist and wouldn't be in favor of military adventurism in general.

Alas, I don't know Geller's religious views a bit. Am familiar that she is a Zionist, so I assume she's at least (marginally) Jewish in a religious sense. I could be wrong though. Knowing how anti-faith Rand is certainly makes for an odd pairing if that is the case. There is a certain kind of logic, I suppose, that allows for religions to be expressed short of a theocracy, and perhaps Pam sees the theocratic version as less desirable, but that puts herself in a logical bind wrt her homeland's m.o. for better or worse. Perhaps she sees Judaism as a gentler, kinder version of religion as compared to Islam?

219 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:20:41am

re: #216 Killgore Trout

What's interesting is I'm not seeing a whole lot of right wing blogs defending her this morning. She's an embarrassment even to the more dishonest right wing blogs, I think they prefer she'd just go away.

Charles's title of Shreiking Harpie is more than appropriate. I think even the extremists agree.

220 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:20:50am

Wow...last day of skiing at Alpine Meadows today...they've got 10" of fresh powder and it's only 22 degrees. Now I really wish I'd gone up to help close the resort.

221 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:22:04am

re: #216 Killgore Trout

What's interesting is I'm not seeing a whole lot of right wing blogs defending her this morning. She's an embarrassment even to the more dishonest right wing blogs, I think they prefer she'd just go away.

I didn't realize she was that popular to begin with. Is she some sort of new phenomena?

222 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:23:13am

re: #217 ggt

Someone be nice and define: frenemies.

Thank you.

It's kind of a female concept, IMO. Kind of being friendly and hostile to someone at the same time.

223 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:23:24am

re: #221 ambi

I didn't realize she was that popular to begin with. Is she some sort of new phenomena?

Only in her own mind.

224 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:24:35am

re: #217 ggt

Someone be nice and define: frenemies.

Thank you.

People who hate each other but ally themselves for personal gain.

225 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:25:09am

re: #224 darthstar

People who hate each other but ally themselves for personal gain.

enemy of my enemy is my friend meme?

ah

226 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:25:47am

re: #221 ambi

I didn't realize she was that popular to begin with. Is she some sort of new phenomena?

She's not super popular but she appears fairly frequently on Fox News, speaks at Tea Party events, etc. I would have expected to see more right wing blogs defending her like they do when Breitbart gets busted editing videos.

227 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:26:11am

re: #217 ggt

Someone be nice and define: frenemies.

Thank you.

Sorry 'bout that. Others have defined it better than I.

228 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:27:07am

re: #204 Obdicut

Rand unequivocally stated that religion was terrible and stupid and horrible and pretty much the ultimate evil as far as Objectivism goes. She said:

I hadn't heard that Geller was completely non-religiously Jewish. I thought she was at least semi-observant.

I highly doubt it. I once read a column that described her as a Sunday School teacher at a local synagogue, but I can't find that story anywhere now.

She is Jewish, of course, raised in Long Island in a Jewish community and I imagine had a typical Jewish education, but outside of that, I don't find anything that shows any religious observance today. Who knows. Not that that means a whole lot anyway. You can be culturally Jewish and non-observant.

At any rate, she's an embarrassment to the Tribe.

229 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:27:12am

re: #226 Killgore Trout

She's not super popular but she appears fairly frequently on Fox News, speaks at Tea Party events, etc. I would have expected to see more right wing blogs defending her like they do when Breitbart gets busted editing videos.

Well, it is a Sunday morning. Lots of people are either sleeping or in church. Wait a few hours and then see what they're doing.

230 Randall Gross  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:28:46am

re: #224 darthstar

People who hate each other but ally themselves for personal gain.

Like Spike and Buffy?

231 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:28:54am

re: #228 marjoriemoon

I highly doubt it. I once read a column that described her as a Sunday School teacher at a local synagogue, but I can't find that story anywhere now.

She is Jewish, of course, raised in Long Island in a Jewish community and I imagine had a typical Jewish education, but outside of that, I don't find anything that shows any religious observance today. Who knows. Not that that means a whole lot anyway. You can be culturally Jewish and non-observant.

At any rate, she's an embarrassment to the Tribe.

Do Jews have Sunday School? I'd think it would be "Saturday" School?

confused, as usual. . .:)

232 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:31:49am

re: #218 ambi

Alas, I don't know Geller's religious views a bit. Am familiar that she is a Zionist, so I assume she's at least (marginally) Jewish in a religious sense. I could be wrong though. Knowing how anti-faith Rand is certainly makes for an odd pairing if that is the case. There is a certain kind of logic, I suppose, that allows for religions to be expressed short of a theocracy, and perhaps Pam sees the theocratic version as less desirable, but that puts herself in a logical bind wrt her homeland's m.o. for better or worse. Perhaps she sees Judaism as a gentler, kinder version of religion as compared to Islam?

We are an odd lot when it comes to religious observance so it's hard to comment about that. Zionism to me is a natural. Most Jews are Zionists because we acknowledge that Israel is our homeland and we have a right to be there. For all the lies being spread about Zionism these days, that's what it is in a nutshell.

Ayn Rand was also born Jewish but completely rejected religion and that part of her culture and background. Geller doesn't reject it, but to me, she "uses" it as a badge as if to say "I'm Jewish so I know what I'm talking about" in regard to Muslims.

She's a bigot and like I say, an embarrassment to Judaism.

233 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:33:44am

re: #226 Killgore Trout

She's not super popular but she appears fairly frequently on Fox News, speaks at Tea Party events, etc. I would have expected to see more right wing blogs defending her like they do when Breitbart gets busted editing videos.

I think that America is generally pro-Israel and also generally anti-fundamentalist-Islam. What seems to bother most folks is words used, not actions. We have always defended Israel's right to exist, although we find different ways to describe this, situationally. We have pretty much gone on the attack wrt Islamist fundamentalist terrorists, although we have used different words to describe these actions, too.

Perhaps Pam does not like the fact that, while we are doing these things, we aren't executing in an atmosphere of heightened rhetoric. I notice in my small amount of knowledge of her worldview that she has more issues with what this administration says, rather than what this administration has done.

So if Obama just gets a little bit more verbally charged, then all will be will I guess. This is why I prefer to talk about shallow things, hyuck.

234 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:33:46am

re: #231 ggt

Do Jews have Sunday School? I'd think it would be "Saturday" School?

confused, as usual. . .:)

heheh Saturday is our Sabbath, the day of rest.

Yes, we go to Sunday School and graduate. It's called "Confirmation."

235 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:34:01am

re: #232 marjoriemoon

We are an odd lot when it comes to religious observance so it's hard to comment about that. Zionism to me is a natural. Most Jews are Zionists because we acknowledge that Israel is our homeland and we have a right to be there. For all the lies being spread about Zionism these days, that's what it is in a nutshell.

Ayn Rand was also born Jewish but completely rejected religion and that part of her culture and background. Geller doesn't reject it, but to me, she "uses" it as a badge as if to say "I'm Jewish so I know what I'm talking about" in regard to Muslims.

She's a bigot and like I say, an embarrassment to Judaism.

More like "I'm Jewish, therefore a target for the whacko jihadists, therefore I know what I'm talking about." It's like she is playing the martyr.

236 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:34:28am

re: #234 marjoriemoon

heheh Saturday is our Sabbath, the day of rest.

Yes, we go to Sunday School and graduate. It's called "Confirmation."

oh hell, Catholics do that too!

237 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:35:47am

re: #228 marjoriemoon

You can be culturally Jewish and non-observant.

Hm...I always refer to myself as a "recovering Catholic" but I never thought of calling myself a cultural Catholic.

238 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:36:11am

re: #236 ggt

oh hell, Catholics do that too!

Soldiers of Christ!

239 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:36:52am

re: #233 ambi

I think that America is generally pro-Israel and also generally anti-fundamentalist-Islam. What seems to bother most folks is words used, not actions. We have always defended Israel's right to exist, although we find different ways to describe this, situationally. We have pretty much gone on the attack wrt Islamist fundamentalist terrorists, although we have used different words to describe these actions, too.

Perhaps Pam does not like the fact that, while we are doing these things, we aren't executing in an atmosphere of heightened rhetoric. I notice in my small amount of knowledge of her worldview that she has more issues with what this administration says, rather than what this administration has done.

So if Obama just gets a little bit more verbally charged, then all will be will I guess. This is why I prefer to talk about shallow things, hyuck.

Shrieky is simply anti-Muslim in that regard. She got hostile when George W. was conciliatory towards Muslims as well. She's a hater.

BBT

240 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:36:58am

re: #237 darthstar

Hm...I always refer to myself as a "recovering Catholic" but I never thought of calling myself a cultural Catholic.

I call myself an agnostic Catholic. I don't doubt G-d, I doubt the Individuals in the Church.

241 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:38:12am

re: #238 darthstar

Soldiers of Christ!

Soldiers of Love!

242 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:40:46am

Good Morning Lizards
I saw the King's Speech yesterday..Very good movie
Although I was kind of hoping the ending speech would have been more powerful.. Like Al Pacino at the end of Scent of a Woman or Any Given Sunday...
/If I had a flame thrower..I'd burn this place to the ground!
LOL

243 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:44:54am

have a great day all!

244 ambi  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:46:27am

Ok. Time to go. Have a merry Sunday.

245 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:48:06am

re: #242 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards
I saw the King's Speech yesterday..Very good movie
Although I was kind of hoping the ending speech would have been more powerful.. Like Al Pacino at the end of Scent of a Woman or Any Given Sunday...
/If I had a flame thrower..I'd burn this place to the ground!
LOL

My wife and I watched that Friday night. It was a good movie. I was telling her that it was the first 'quality' movie we'd seen in some time (mostly due to my taste for action/adventure). I just enjoyed the story itself and the relationship between the two men.

246 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:48:34am

I'm out for brunch, too. Awesome, awesome brunch at a place where you have to book like a month in advance for it.

Bottomless sangria being part of the reason for this.

247 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 8:56:01am

re: #237 darthstar

Hm...I always refer to myself as a "recovering Catholic" but I never thought of calling myself a cultural Catholic.

Sorry phone...

Judaism has a cultural or ethnic sense to it that Catholicism doesn't really have which can be separate from religious observance. There are atheist Jews who still identify as Jewish. Think of it in sense of language, food choices, lifestyle or observance of the holidays (not working on our high holy days even if you don't attend a synagogue).

More here.

248 lazardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:01:09am

Fast food imperialism, you say?

Why leave it to the court jester when such imperial duties are best suited to the monarch?

249 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:02:58am

I'm seeing a lot of mentions of a 3rd intifada going around. Ugh.

250 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:06:59am

The Rapture kids are really pissed about next weekend...the key to selling people on the second coming is for it never to actually get here...this May 21 stuff is going to cause a decrease in revenue come May 22.

[Link: www.raptureforums.com...]

251 lazardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:08:02am

re: #250 darthstar

Eh. The good, decent folk drive the dullest cars anyway. :P

252 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:09:27am

re: #249 Killgore Trout

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Israel's Netanyahu vows to defend borders
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JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel's prime minister says he will vigorously
defend his country's borders after a mass infiltration from Syria.
In a televised address Sunday, Benjamin Netanyahu said he hopes
calm will be quickly restored.
But he said, "Nobody should be mistaken. We are determined to
defend our borders and sovereignty."
Hundreds of Palestinians stormed across the Syrian border into
the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights earlier Sunday. The border
breach set off several hours of violent clashes, leaving at least
four people killed.
There were also deadly clashes along the borders of Lebanon and
the Gaza Strip.

(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

253 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:10:02am

re: #251 lazardo

Eh. The good, decent folk drive the dullest cars anyway. :P

Bunch of abandoned mini-vans and Sebrings...yay.

254 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:10:47am

It's hailing outside.

255 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:11:53am

re: #242 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards
I saw the King's Speech yesterday..Very good movie
Although I was kind of hoping the ending speech would have been more powerful.. Like Al Pacino at the end of Scent of a Woman or Any Given Sunday...
/If I had a flame thrower..I'd burn this place to the ground!
LOL

Kevin Durant goes for 35 today and the Thunder roar into the Western Conference finals ...

256 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:13:47am

Correct! Got to find the EJ Dionne column.

Katyushina Catherine M
by stephencvengros

EJ Dionne has it right: race for Rep nomination is about promoting TV shows, books, Fox News. These guys are admen, not leaders. #p2 #tcot

257 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:14:43am

re: #252 _RememberTonyC

A lot of these idiots are going to get themselves killed and accomplish absolutely nothing, Such a shame to see them doing this again.

258 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:14:51am

re: #255 _RememberTonyC

Kevin Durant goes for 35 today and the Thunder roar into the Western Conference finals ...

The fans in OKC are going nuts..They have never experienced anything like this here..Even I have been caught up in the wave of excitement

259 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:14:53am

re: #250 darthstar

The Rapture kids are really pissed about next weekend...the key to selling people on the second coming is for it never to actually get here...this May 21 stuff is going to cause a decrease in revenue come May 22.

[Link: www.raptureforums.com...]

What is the "overwhelming evidence" exactly? Other than the rantings of one goofy cult leader.

260 lazardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:15:29am

re: #252 _RememberTonyC

It's turning into a free-for-all in the Middle East. And where there's opportunity knocking like this, the fundies will let 'em in.

261 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:16:17am

re: #254 darthstar

It's hailing outside.

We're cool and rainy here. Looks like a repeat of last year when I ran the furnace until the first week of july.

262 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:17:14am

re: #258 HoosierHoops

The fans in OKC are going nuts..They have never experienced anything like this here..Even I have been caught up in the wave of excitement

How can you not? The Grizz/Thunder has been the best series of the entire NBA playoff season. But I am predicting a Mavs/Heat NBA Finals matchup and I hope it goes 7 games with Dallas winning it.

263 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:18:04am

re: #257 Killgore Trout

A lot of these idiots are going to get themselves killed and accomplish absolutely nothing, Such a shame to see them doing this again.

And how does the BBC spin this into their headline?

Israeli forces open fire at Palestinian protesters

It's not until the 3rd line you are told what is the cause behind Israeli actions:

"Israeli forces have fired on groups of protesters at borders with the Palestinian territories, Syria and Lebanon.

Reports say that at least 12 people have died and dozens more have been injured.

In one incident, thousands of Palestinian supporters from Syria entered the Golan Heights, Israel says."

264 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:18:20am

Rioters in Qalandiya Use Ambulance for Cover While Hurling Rocks

265 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:18:47am

re: #260 lazardo

It's turning into a free-for-all in the Middle East. And where there's opportunity knocking like this, the fundies will let 'em in.

Agreed. And with all the craziness going on around it, Israel should dig in and cede nothing to any of its "neighbors."

266 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:18:58am

Very dry here, well, except for the whole Mississippi River thing going on.
Otherwise - a 2nd-in-a-row low humidity day, predicted high of 79 and another day just like this one predicted for tomorrow! I wonder what we did to deserve such a wonderful late-spring gift?

267 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:20:00am

re: #257 Killgore Trout

A lot of these idiots are going to get themselves killed and accomplish absolutely nothing, Such a shame to see them doing this again.


Given how brutal the libyans and syrians have been to their own people, israel has a free pass to do whatever the hell it needs to do to maintain order and control.

268 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:20:34am

re: #259 marjoriemoon

What is the "overwhelming evidence" exactly? Other than the rantings of one goofy cult leader.

There's a billboard in San Diego. I saw it yesterday. Basically I thought, these folks have money. How in the world did this fringe group afford billboards across the country?

#SeeYouOnMay22

269 lazardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:20:39am

re: #265 _RememberTonyC

Agreed. And with all the craziness going on around it, Israel should dig in and cede nothing to any of its "neighbors."

The really hard bit is how to do it when all your biggest enemies are also doing it and still have whatever real reform forces there are out there come out on top.

270 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:21:00am

re: #263 Ericus58

And how does the BBC spin this into their headline?

Israeli forces open fire at Palestinian protesters

It's not until the 3rd line you are told what is the cause behind Israeli actions:

"Israeli forces have fired on groups of protesters at borders with the Palestinian territories, Syria and Lebanon.

Reports say that at least 12 people have died and dozens more have been injured.

In one incident, thousands of Palestinian supporters from Syria entered the Golan Heights, Israel says."


fuck the bbc ... fuck 'em

271 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:24:08am

re: #250 darthstar

The Rapture kids are really pissed about next weekend...the key to selling people on the second coming is for it never to actually get here...this May 21 stuff is going to cause a decrease in revenue come May 22.

[Link: www.raptureforums.com...]

From that link:

What if May 21 ends and nothing occurs?
The biblical evidence is too overwhelming and specific to be wrong. Christ's people can look with great confidence to this date because God promises His "beloved" He will not come upon them as a thief in the night.

You know, nutty as these people are, I wouldn't be surprised if there are people planning group suicides. That sort of thing has happened before; I'm hoping it doesn't happen this time.

272 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:24:23am

re: #268 Stanley Sea

There's a billboard in San Diego. I saw it yesterday. Basically I thought, these folks have money. How in the world did this fringe group afford billboards across the country?

#SeeYouOnMay22

I guess because they're giving all their money to Camping (?)

I know they site the problems with the church, gays, American secularism, blah blah blah as the reason, but he doesn't seem to say why he picked May 21 other than "it's in the Bible."

Btw, Camping declared the End of the World sometime in the late 90s when many people still didn't have internet connections... so I guess no one heard him.

273 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:25:30am

re: #270 _RememberTonyC

fuck the bbc ... fuck 'em

hey, let's check on The Guardian"

Eight killed as Israeli troops open fire on Nakba Day border protests

and of course the photo dispalyed under the headline is this:
"A Palestinian woman and child are helped to safety during Nakba Day violence north of Jerusalem. Photograph: Jim Hollander/EPA"

274 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:26:25am

re: #273 Ericus58

hey, let's check on The Guardian"

Eight killed as Israeli troops open fire on Nakba Day border protests

and of course the photo dispalyed under the headline is this:
"A Palestinian woman and child are helped to safety during Nakba Day violence north of Jerusalem. Photograph: Jim Hollander/EPA"


But hey ..... they're not anti semitic .... they're just anti Zionist

/

275 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:26:50am

re: #263 Ericus58

And how does the BBC spin this into their headline?

Israeli forces open fire at Palestinian protesters

It's not until the 3rd line you are told what is the cause behind Israeli actions:

"Israeli forces have fired on groups of protesters at borders with the Palestinian territories, Syria and Lebanon.

Reports say that at least 12 people have died and dozens more have been injured.

In one incident, thousands of Palestinian supporters from Syria entered the Golan Heights, Israel says."

It doesn't say the thousands of supporters are armed though. And regardless of where you stand on Israel's right to drive back protesters, if unarmed people were fired upon, it won't look good to most people.

276 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:28:10am

re: #262 _RememberTonyC

How can you not? The Grizz/Thunder has been the best series of the entire NBA playoff season. But I am predicting a Mavs/Heat NBA Finals matchup and I hope it goes 7 games with Dallas winning it.

I hope the Heat get swept who ever they play

277 laZardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:31:01am

re: #276 HoosierHoops

I hope the Heat get swept who ever they play

THE BULLS ARE BACK O:

278 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:31:36am

re: #276 HoosierHoops

re: #277 laZardo

I saw how chicago played against the pacers....Heat in 5.

279 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:32:28am

re: #276 HoosierHoops

I hope the Heat get swept who ever they play

I hope Miami loses, but I love me a 7 game series! We'll see if the Bulls have enough "sack" to take down the Heat. Miami/Chicago will be a "perimeter-centric" series and the Heat have two perimeter studs to just one for the Bulls.

280 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:32:47am

re: #278 RogueOne

re: #277 laZardo

I saw how chicago played against the pacers...Heat in 5.

I really like the direction the Pacers are going..Up and coming team

281 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:32:48am

re: #275 darthstar

It doesn't say the thousands of supporters are armed though. And regardless of where you stand on Israel's right to drive back protesters, if unarmed people were fired upon, it won't look good to most people.

Tell me what your solution is to a mass incursion across a nations border? Is there a viable one in this situation?

Are you also putting out that no one was armed or engaging in hostile action?

282 RogueOne  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:33:54am

re: #280 HoosierHoops

I really like the direction the Pacers are going..Up and coming team

I'm not seeing it like that//. They have a ton of money for free agency this year, I'll wait to see who they decided to pick up before I completely write them off....

283 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:34:24am

re: #280 HoosierHoops

I really like the direction the Pacers are going..Up and coming team

I want the Celtics to go after Roy Hibbert of the Pacers when he becomes a free agent. He made MAJOR strides this season. He's 7-2 and has a hook shot that he makes pretty regularly.

284 laZardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:35:45am

First, Duke Nukem Forever is finally being released.

Then the Bulls are back in the NBA finals.

Next thing you know we wake up and its 1997 again.

O_O

285 Varek Raith  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:36:19am

re: #284 laZardo

First, Duke Nukem Forever is finally being released.

Then the Bulls are back in the NBA finals.

Next thing you know we wake up and its 1997 again.

O_O

It'll be delayed.
Watch.

286 laZardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:37:51am

re: #285 Varek Raith

It'll be delayed.
Watch.

They actually did about a month ago. The release date is now a couple of weeks AFTER the Rapture. :P

287 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:37:56am

re: #275 darthstar

It doesn't say the thousands of supporters are armed though. And regardless of where you stand on Israel's right to drive back protesters, if unarmed people were fired upon, it won't look good to most people.

But of course if you read snippets and not the entire incident, you can come to any kind of conclusion.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

The dozens of Syrian protesters that had been protesting in the central square of Magdal Shams left the Druse village and were crossing the border back into Syria on Sunday afternoon.

Residents of Majdal Shams convinced the protesters to return to Syria and said that the situation in the village was returning to normal, Army Radio reported. This followed the majority of protesters being returned to Syria by the IDF about one hour before hand.

The incident began when approximately 1,000 people on the Syrian side ran towards the border earlier on Sunday. The closest home to the border in Majdal Shams is about thirty meters from the border with Syria. Some 150 Syrians infiltrated the border and entered the Druse village.

Let's talk about attacking peaceful protesters and SYRIA. Nuff said.

Also Sunday, IDF soldiers fired in the air and at the legs of protesters to repel Palestinians demonstrating at Maroun a-Ras, on the Lebanese-Israeli border near the Israeli town of Avizim. Three to five Lebanese were killed in the incident.

The IDF stated that Lebanese Armed Forces were in the area and responsible for a significant amount of gunfire. The IDF believes all or some of the Lebanese protesters killed in the incident were killed by Lebanese Armed Forces.

"Hundreds of Lebanese and Palestinians approached the fence at Marun Aras. The Lebanese army did not stop them. When IDF saw them attempting to destroy fence, they took steps to stop them," Mordechai told Channel 10.

Israel has the right to self defense. Period.

288 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:38:22am

re: #281 Ericus58

Tell me what your solution is to a mass incursion across a nations border? Is there a viable one in this situation?

Are you also putting out that no one was armed or engaging in hostile action?

Thousands of protesters show up all the time - like in Wisconsin recently, or the teabag rallies in Washington last year - they're not a threat to national security. Two or three thousand people standing on the border of Israel are NOT a threat to Israel's existence. Hell, 10 or 20 thousand people wouldn't be a 'threat' to a whole country. Let them chant for six or eight hours and go home...no harm done.

If they're armed, then they're not protesters, they're militants. Then all bets are off.

289 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:40:13am

re: #283 _RememberTonyC

I want the Celtics to go after Roy Hibbert of the Pacers when he becomes a free agent. He made MAJOR strides this season. He's 7-2 and has a hook shot that he makes pretty regularly.

I'll never forgive Golden State for letting Robert Parrish go to the Celtics...They drafted Joe Barry Carrol whom I heckled at every game I attended in Oakland...
/Try running once this game Joe! It's Basketball! lard ass

290 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:41:40am

re: #289 HoosierHoops

I'll never forgive Golden State for letting Robert Parrish go to the Celtics...They drafted Joe Barry Carrol whom I heckled at every game I attended in Oakland...
/Try running once this game Joe! It's Basketball! lard ass

LOL ..... I used to call him "Joe Barely Cares."

291 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:43:11am

re: #287 marjoriemoon

But of course if you read snippets and not the entire incident, you can come to any kind of conclusion.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Let's talk about attacking peaceful protesters and SYRIA. Nuff said.

Israel has the right to self defense. Period.

Run for the border, get shot. Got it. And the IDF believes the Lebanese were shooting their own people, so it's all good anyway. Case closed.

292 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:43:21am

Uploaded to the lefty "Young Turks" youtube channel....
Israeli Troops Open Fire On Demonstrators !


At 1:00 a "demonstrator" throws a Molotov cocktail while standing next guys in body armor labeled "Press". Nice use of human shields.
293 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:44:05am

and in today's lesson in hypocrisy, SYRIA condemns Israel's treatment of protestors ...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

294 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:46:43am

re: #288 darthstar

Thousands of protesters show up all the time - like in Wisconsin recently, or the teabag rallies in Washington last year - they're not a threat to national security. Two or three thousand people standing on the border of Israel are NOT a threat to Israel's existence. Hell, 10 or 20 thousand people wouldn't be a 'threat' to a whole country. Let them chant for six or eight hours and go home...no harm done.

If they're armed, then they're not protesters, they're militants. Then all bets are off.

I'll refer to Majoriemoon's post of #287.
If they had stayed on the land opposite the border and not crossed in mass, then I'm sure there would have been no attempts by Israeli defence forces to disperse.

There was a mass incursion.

295 Varek Raith  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:47:13am

re: #292 Killgore Trout

Check out mah burning couch of DOOOM!

296 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:47:44am

re: #288 darthstar

Thousands of protesters show up all the time - like in Wisconsin recently, or the teabag rallies in Washington last year - they're not a threat to national security. Two or three thousand people standing on the border of Israel are NOT a threat to Israel's existence. Hell, 10 or 20 thousand people wouldn't be a 'threat' to a whole country. Let them chant for six or eight hours and go home...no harm done.

If they're armed, then they're not protesters, they're militants. Then all bets are off.

How in the world can you compare the protests in Wisconsin to the what's happnening in the Middle East. No one is physically threatened by cheeseheads.

You want to talk about shooting unarmed protesters, tell me about the humanitarian crisis going on in Syria right now. Israel has political protests all the time! The government doesn't shoot them!

These are enemies on the border, namely Hizbollah. Even our government acknowledges if someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night, you have ever right to shoot them whether you know they're armed or not.

297 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:48:17am

re: #291 darthstar

Run for the border, get shot. Got it. And the IDF believes the Lebanese were shooting their own people, so it's all good anyway. Case closed.

That is a disingenuous use of Majoriemoon's words.
And you know it.

298 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:48:46am

re: #297 Ericus58

That is a disingenuous use of Majoriemoon's words.
And you know it.

Thank you!

299 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:50:37am

re: #298 marjoriemoon

Thank you!

You're welcome.
We can all hold differing opinions and debate our points.
But spinning words is not acceptable.

300 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:52:23am

re: #299 Ericus58

You're welcome.
We can all hold differing opinions and debate our points.
But spinning words is not acceptable.

Thanks again. It just sticks in my craw that Israel should have a completely different set of rules regarding self-defense than every other democratic society on the planet.

301 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:53:34am

re: #294 Ericus58

I'll refer to Majoriemoon's post of #287.
If they had stayed on the land opposite the border and not crossed in mass, then I'm sure there would have been no attempts by Israeli defence forces to disperse.

There was a mass incursion.


I don't follow Israeli politics very closely, but I do recall there being some kind of dispute about the Golan Heights and who it should belong to. I still think letting the protesters shout and scream for eight hours before going home peacefully would have been a better approach...and it would have shown that Israel isn't afraid of disagreement so long as it's kept within reason. If the protesters had tanks, then again that would have been a different story.

Shit's going to get worse before it gets better.

302 Varek Raith  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:53:58am

re: #300 marjoriemoon

Thanks again. It just sticks in my craw that Israel should have a completely different set of rules regarding self-defense than every other democratic society on the planet.

Canada firing rockets into USA = Canada gets kicked in the ass.

303 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:54:33am

re: #295 Varek Raith

Check out mah burning couch of DOOOM!

"come sit on this comfy sofa, Zionist pig!"

304 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:57:05am

re: #301 darthstar

I don't follow Israeli politics very closely, but I do recall there being some kind of dispute about the Golan Heights and who it should belong to. I still think letting the protesters shout and scream for eight hours before going home peacefully would have been a better approach...and it would have shown that Israel isn't afraid of disagreement so long as it's kept within reason. If the protesters had tanks, then again that would have been a different story.

Shit's going to get worse before it gets better.

Darth, why are you refusing to acknowledge that it wasn't until there was a mass incursion across the border that any action was taken?

305 Varek Raith  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:57:48am

re: #303 Killgore Trout

"come sit on this comfy sofa, Zionist pig!"

A burning couch an effective barrier does not make.

306 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:01:08am

re: #304 Ericus58

Darth, why are you refusing to acknowledge that it wasn't until there was a mass incursion across the border that any action was taken?

Yes, people crossed the border in protest...to protest the border. If ten thousand Mexicans stormed the border in Tijuana to protest the US, I doubt we'd have our military open fire on them. We'd try to contain them by building a corral of military vehicles and wear them down, probably. But I'd like to think we wouldn't just start shooting.

If ten thousand Canadians came across the border, it would probably be for a Redwings game.

307 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:01:52am

re: #301 darthstar

I don't follow Israeli politics very closely, but I do recall there being some kind of dispute about the Golan Heights and who it should belong to. I still think letting the protesters shout and scream for eight hours before going home peacefully would have been a better approach...and it would have shown that Israel isn't afraid of disagreement so long as it's kept within reason. If the protesters had tanks, then again that would have been a different story.

Shit's going to get worse before it gets better.

If you read the article, the protesters in the Druse village were convinced to go back to Syria. They were leaving, ESCORTED by the IDF when 1000 more came running across the border and stopped on the other side by Syria's patrol. The IDF considered that a threat and I do, too.

308 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:03:13am

re: #295 Varek Raith

Check out mah burning couch of DOOOM!

Obviously one of the many couches sent by Iran.

309 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:03:41am

re: #306 darthstar

Yes, people crossed the border in protest...to protest the border. If ten thousand Mexicans stormed the border in Tijuana to protest the US, I doubt we'd have our military open fire on them. We'd try to contain them by building a corral of military vehicles and wear them down, probably. But I'd like to think we wouldn't just start shooting.

If ten thousand Canadians came across the border, it would probably be for a Redwings game.

Mexicans haven't been sending bombs strapped to teenagers into the U.S. They haven't launched missiles into the U.S. They don't have a 60 year history of an active war with the U.S.

I can understand you don't know the specific details of Israeli policy, but this much is quite clear.

310 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:04:25am

re: #307 marjoriemoon

If you read the article, the protesters in the Druse village were convinced to go back to Syria. They were leaving, ESCORTED by the IDF when 1000 more came running across the border and NOT stopped on the other side by Syria's patrol. The IDF considered that a threat and I do, too.

Sorry... NOT STOPPED

311 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:06:47am

Ok, I'm done. On to other things.

In the great words of Bartles and James, "Thank you for your support".

(you know who you are) :>

312 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:09:39am

re: #311 marjoriemoon

Ok, I'm done. On to other things.

In the great words of Bartles and James, "Thank you for your support".

(you know who you are) :>

Have a good day. I do hope that this incident gets forgotten soon and isn't an indication of larger conflicts to come.

313 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:11:16am

Alas, it wasn't a Canadien team that took out my Red Wings..... damn pesky Silicon Valley surfer dude's did 'em in.

Let's go Canucks - Fear the Kesler!

314 _remembertonyc  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:38:47am

Remember the words of Rodney King ...

315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:12:57am

re: #314 _remembertonyc

You mean: "Ouch! Hey! Stop that! Dang it! Ouch!" ?


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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200329First we'd like to lodge a complaint: Since the day we laid the liner (3/1/20), it hasn't rained once. Now to business. Since our design does not include a filter, we need to give the whole system a head start. ...
I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
5 days, 11 hours ago
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