Pamela Geller Rages at the Independent’s Accurate Article

Shrieking Harpy says, ‘I love Muslims!’
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“I ♥ me some Muslims!”The Independent’s Robert Chalmers has a very balanced and fair look at Pamela Geller: American patriot or extremist firebrand?

And of course, any balanced and fair examination of the Shrieking Harpy can only come to one conclusion: she’s desperately unhinged.

What’s striking about this article, though, is that Geller completely lacks the courage of her convictions. When confronted about her bizarre, hate-filled posts, she invariably attempts to pretend she didn’t really say what she did really say. It’s a “joke,” or it’s somebody else’s writing that she just happened to put on her blog for no particular reason, or it’s “taken out of context.” Like many extremists and bigots, underneath the bluster and the hateful statements Geller is a coward.

For example:

Among the many new things I have learnt from the work of Pamela Geller is that President Obama reputedly used to knock around with a crack whore.

“That,” the author, blogger and broadcaster insists, “is not what I said. You are taking this out of context. The post [on her website atlasshrugs.com] was pointing out how people were reporting lie after lie about Sarah Palin. I said to myself, there is so much about Obama we don’t print. In his youth,” she continues, repeating a story for which there exists absolutely no foundation, “he supposedly liked a girl who was a crack whore. I never reported it as fact. They say all these vile things about Palin but do we ever talk about Obama and the crack whore?”

The incredibly libellous post, entitled: “IT’S TIME TO EXPOSE THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA” appeared on 1 August 2009. “Why not tell the truth about Obama and his reported strange sexual predilections?” Geller wrote. “It is well known that he allegedly was involved with a crack whore in his youth. Very seedy stuff … Find the ho, give her a show! Obama allegedly trafficked in some very deviant practices.”

Pretty hard to take that out of context, wouldn’t you say?

Chalmers emailed me to ask for my reaction to Geller’s insults:

She began blogging on littlegreenfootballs.com, run by the professional musician and software expert Charles Johnson. Between 2004 and 2007, she posted thousands of entries. “She was always as reactionary,” he tells me, “as you see her now.”

Johnson, who, as that remark would suggest, does not share Geller’s opinions, is described as a “mental patient” on Atlas Shrugs.

“I know Pamela Geller often calls me crazy,” he told me. “But I’m not the one who talks about the president’s birth certificate being faked or says that he’s the illegitimate son of Malcolm X, and I’m not the one who defends a war criminal and makes alliances with white supremacist groups. That would be Ms Geller. She has a very long record of absolute lunacy, mixed with bigotry and racism and I am far from the only person to point this out.”

Please note: the article says Geller posted “entries” at LGF, but that’s not accurate. She posted comments only; even when LGF focused heavily on Islamic extremism, there was no way I’d ever let someone this crazed and illiterate post front page entries here.

The overall picture you get from the Independent’s article is of a pathetic, intellectually challenged bigot who thrives on the attention, and the Shrieking Harpy has responded to Chalmers’ article with her customary insults and incoherent rage: Independent Sunday Magazine Cover Story: Pamela Geller ‘The most dangerous woman in America???????’

Robert Chalmers could not disappoint his judgemental peers and risk losing his cache with the lemmings; hence he commiserated with intellectual frauds like Charles Johnson and an unnamed journalist who actually attempted amateur Geller psychoanalysis (as if), but Chalmers chose not to speak to the people I actually work with, like Robert Spencer, Pamela Hall, James Lafferty etc.,

Geller seems to believe that Chalmers was actually sympathetic to her, but too afraid to say so. Good grief.

Pamela Geller is definitely not the “most dangerous woman in America,” but she just might take the title of “most deranged blogger in America.”

Read the whole thing…

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197 comments

1 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:50:11am

I have an uncanny ability to login to LGF just as a new thread is created.

2 laZardo  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:54:35am

re: #1 Alexzander

Balances out my past-midnight routine: New Thread, Time For Bed.

Nighty!

3 Ericus58  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:54:55am

Charles, your reply back to Chalmers was spot on.
She is not well. At some point, even Fox has to realize this....

.... but I'll not hold wait by the phone.

4 Kronocide  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:56:12am

Style always trumps substance for Her Screedness.

5 mr.fusion  Sun, May 15, 2011 9:56:35am

Great read

It's not that Pamela Geller exists that bugs me....it's that she's been completely mainstreamed by the FOXNews crowd that infuriates me to no end

6 jaunte  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:00:10am

Robert Chalmers: "On the evidence of her writing alone, you might assume its author to be a male octogenarian in tweeds carrying a 12-bore."

I'm sure her writing has bored larger numbers than twelve.

7 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:05:33am

Is that supposed to be an improvement on your other picture of Geller, Charles?
She has an uncanny resemblance to this guy.

8 Kronocide  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:06:38am

Coincedentally I had read the Independent article just before coming here this AM. I found it after going to her site after a Facebook buddy linked to her, for which I scolded him for linking to a nutter bigot that was a 'Alex Jonesian hack.'

I posted this Independent article back at him and told him not to go there any more.

9 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:07:30am

I might start doing page for Libya Updates soon, Explanation of what's happened that day in the evening.

However, further good news. The rebels are about to enter Zliten for the next battle. And shelling of Misrata has stopped, so all sorts of supplies and shenanigans and enter the city.

Here is the Misrata front as of May 15, 0000 hrs. (Libya Local Time?)

10 jaunte  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:10:18am

re: #8 BigPapa

Here's a good capsule, if he doesn't want to read the whole thing:

Geller: "McCarthy was right. He went overboard, but he was right. The Communists were infiltrating and they have been very successful here in America."

11 Kronocide  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:12:29am

re: #6 jaunte


I'm sure her writing has bored larger numbers than twelve.

Actually she writes in 'blast.' It reads like ALL CAPS without being in all caps.

12 Summer Seale  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:12:38am

Well, unlike Geller, Charles has let me post an entry here once about Sarah Palin.

But, unlike Geller, I'm pretty awesome. =)

13 darthstar  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:13:06am

Yay, my battery is getting low! Time to do something with myself for a few hours.
Have a great day, everyone.

14 jaunte  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:14:08am

re: #11 BigPapa

I wonder if she ever corrected that 'losing the bubble in the war on terror' typo.

15 jaunte  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:15:31am

re: #14 jaunte

I wonder if she ever corrected that 'losing the bubble in the war on terror' typo.

Nope. Second spot in this search: [Link: www.google.com...]

16 Kronocide  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:16:05am

re: #10 jaunte

Yep, those communists have been very successful. At what, I have no idea, but they sure are successful!

17 What, me worry?  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:31:16am

Great post, Charles!

Pamela Geller is definitely not the “most dangerous woman in America,” but she just might take the title of “most deranged blogger in America.”

Exactly! She deserves all the importance that this country gave to Code Pink. It's the same thing.

I guess you're in either two camps here. One that says that Islam is inherently evil, cannot be saved, and most be destroyed at all costs and the other that says it can be reformed in the sense of getting rid of violent extremism. I am of the latter and truly believe that in order for significant reform to take place, the world has to help those Muslims who seek to reform it.

18 MarkAM  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:42:30am

Must be fun to have a "cache with the lemmings." I wonder what's stored in it.

19 Linden Arden  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:43:50am

Has Geller indicated a GOPer preference for 2012?

Its kind of entertaining to see the real whackjobs' reluctance to back any of the current GOP candidates. I imagine an Islamo-phobe like herself has no one to latch on to yet - and won't.

20 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:46:22am

re: #19 Linden Arden

Has Geller indicated a GOPer preference for 2012?

Its kind of entertaining to see the real whackjobs' reluctance to back any of the current GOP candidates. I imagine an Islamo-phobe like herself has no one to latch on to yet - and won't.

I think she's endorsing Allen West. Not sure why.

21 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:47:23am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I think she's endorsing Allen West. Not sure why.

Because he loves Muslims as much as Geller does.

22 Linden Arden  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:48:59am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I think she's endorsing Allen West. Not sure why.

Good. (He is strong military.)

But she will be very disappointed when he doesn't run. Same for John Bolton.

She will get T-Paw or Romney instead - one of two milquetoasts.

23 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:50:51am

re: #22 Linden Arden

Good. (He is strong military.)

But she will be very disappointed when he doesn't run. Same for John Bolton.

She will get T-Paw or Romney instead - one of two milquetoasts.

The GOP field keeps looking sadder. Ron Paul may win by default because nobody else can be bothered to campaign.

24 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:51:55am

re: #21 Charles

Because he loves Muslims as much as Geller does.

Palin is a contender for sure.

25 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:54:03am

My Heart Says 'No'

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee announced late Saturday that - in a "spiritual" decision guided by his relationship with Christ - he will not seek the Republican nomination for president in 2012.

Well, at least he arrived at his decision rationally.

26 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:55:02am

Off topic, but the Al-Jazeera Live Blog has, yet again, become a Balkan Flame War. Bosnians and Croats bashing Serbs and vice versa.

27 Linden Arden  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:57:12am

re: #25 negativ

Too bad Huck wouldn't say what the real reason was.

28 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 10:57:52am

re: #27 Linden Arden

Too bad Huck wouldn't say what the real reason was.

It's pretty obvious. He's making boatloads of money on Fox News.

29 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:04:52am

I don't think Geller is insane. I think she's an addict. She spends so much time drugged out of her mind on fear, hate and rage that it's indistinguishable from metal illness.

Her remark about working twenty hours a day is a dead give away. Only people high on uppers do that sort of thing. The adrenaline and endorphins that flood the body due to fear, hate and rage are natural uppers.

Pretty sad that an addict such as her has such an effect on American politics.

30 windsagio  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:07:39am

Are you guys sure its just not a really really good act? Lots of money to be made in the nutter market.

31 Linden Arden  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:12:50am

re: #30 windsagio

Are you guys sure its just not a really really good act? Lots of money to be made in the nutter market.

Huck or Geller?

32 windsagio  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:14:08am

re: #31 Linden Arden

Both really, I meant Geller tho ><

33 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:15:53am

re: #29 Romantic Heretic

I don't think Geller is insane. I think she's an addict. She spends so much time drugged out of her mind on fear, hate and rage that it's indistinguishable from metal illness.

Thanks, now I have that terrible Quiet Riot song stuck in my head.

34 windsagio  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:21:26am

re: #33 negativ

dude, how could you mention it without the classic video?

35 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:34:48am

re: #23 Killgore Trout

The GOP field keeps looking sadder. Ron Paul may win by default because nobody else can be bothered to campaign.

I've semi-seriously wondered about that possibility too. It is clear that Pawlenty really wants this, but nobody really wants Palwently. Ron Paul is the only guy in the race right now that has both the will to run to run and the (infamously) zealous supports to carry him through. Other candidates would sell a limb for the kind of support and fan base RP has.

If this looks like a real possibility, expect to see the more moderate and establishment republicans quickly rallying around someone (probably Pawlenty) in order to stop Paul in his tracks.

36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:36:08am

Gah! That picture.

37 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:38:29am

re: #35 Alexzander

I've semi-seriously wondered about that possibility too. It is clear that Pawlenty really wants this, but nobody really wants Palwently. Ron Paul is the only guy in the race right now that has both the will to run to run and the (infamously) zealous supports to carry him through. Other candidates would sell a limb for the kind of support and fan base RP has.

If this looks like a real possibility, expect to see the more moderate and establishment republicans quickly rallying around someone (probably Pawlenty) in order to stop Paul in his tracks.

I still think Ron Paul is a bit of a stretch. The Gop can't afford him to represent them in debates against Obama and spewing his radical nonsense as the nominee. I still think the GOP establishment will push Mitt through the primaries and get him the nomination just to have some sort of reasonable candidate.

38 makeitstop  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:39:24am

re: #36 Slumbering Behemoth

Gah! That picture.

[Video]

I miss that band.

39 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:40:00am

re: #34 windsagio

gah. I guess now I have to spend all day listening to Iron Maiden, Slayer, and Spinal Tap to get my 80s metal module properly recalibrated.

40 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:40:58am

"Gingrich-Palin 2012!!!

Four Crap Years!
Four Crap Years!"

Ole Newt just might be crazy enough too...

41 Winny Spencer  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:41:09am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I still think Ron Paul is a bit of a stretch. The Gop can't afford him to represent them in debates against Obama and spewing his radical nonsense as the nominee. I still think the GOP establishment will push Mitt through the primaries and get him the nomination just to have some sort of reasonable candidate.

Mittens is still the establishment's choice, yes. He will be the nominee.

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:41:20am

re: #39 negativ

gah. I guess now I have to spend all day listening to Iron Maiden, Slayer, and Spinal Tap to get my 80s metal module properly recalibrated.

If you not already doing that, daily, then I just don't know what to say. You're not the Lizard I thought I knew.
/

43 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:43:18am

save Geller's brain for science...maybe her only human value

44 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:45:40am

re: #41 Winny Spencer

Mittens is still the establishment's choice, yes. He will be the nominee.

I can't wait to hear the Erwin Schrödinger quantum gymnastics deployed when he has to simultaneously champion and denounce his single greatest achievement as Governor of Mass.

(get it? governer of mass? Schrödinger? ba-dum tss)

45 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:48:11am

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

If you not already doing that, daily, then I just don't know what to say. You're not the Lizard I thought I knew.
/

Well actually, it was going to be Tool and King Crimson today, but now I'm thinking I've gotta throw the "Powerslave" and "7th Son" albums in there somewhere. It's a decent fit.

46 allegro  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:48:30am

re: #43 albusteve

save Geller's brain for science...maybe her only human value

Named Abbie Normal on the jar?

47 Alexzander  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:49:19am

re: #41 Winny Spencer

Mittens is still the establishment's choice, yes. He will be the nominee.

I'm not so sure. There is such a strong "anti-establishment" orientation on the right at the moment. This combined with his individual mandate in Massachusetts wont sit well, and makes him an easy target. Lastly, there is a strong push not to have a 'retread' candidate.

I think Pawlenty has all of the safe establishment aspects, with at least the ability to pretend to be someone fresh and new. His campaign ads have tried to play up a connection to the Tea Party movement (hilarious).

48 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:50:14am

re: #46 allegro

Named Abbie Normal on the jar?

Blücher!

49 allegro  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:50:52am

re: #48 negativ

Blücher!

NEI-EI-EI-GHHH!!

50 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:51:28am

re: #48 negativ

Blücher!

51 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:57:50am

looks like Israel has gone to lock and load...is this the season to clean out Hez from over the Litani?...

52 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 11:58:32am

re: #41 Winny Spencer

Mittens is still the establishment's choice, yes. He will be the nominee.

Considering the way the establishment is currently ripping Mitt apart for refusing to apologize for Romneycare? I'm not so sure about that.

53 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:00:29pm

Newt took aim at the Ryan budget today, BTW:

Newt Gingrich Blasts GOP Budget As 'Right-Wing Social Engineering'

54 Winny Spencer  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:01:45pm

It's interesting to compare the current situation to the one in 2007-2008 when Mittens was hailed as the "conservative's conservative" by pundits and establishment potentates alike. Apparently, Mittenscare was not an issue back then.

55 makeitstop  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:02:35pm

re: #53 Lidane

Newt took aim at the Ryan budget today, BTW:

Newt Gingrich Blasts GOP Budget As 'Right-Wing Social Engineering'

I have to wonder what Newtie's angle is with this. Just being a contrarian? Or running to the center early to make himself appear sane?

56 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:03:33pm

re: #53 Lidane

Newt took aim at the Ryan budget today, BTW:

Newt Gingrich Blasts GOP Budget As 'Right-Wing Social Engineering'

Heh.

57 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:09:12pm

re: #55 makeitstop

I have to wonder what Newtie's angle is with this. Just being a contrarian? Or running to the center early to make himself appear sane?

Ryan's budget was so toxic that it might cost Republicans a few seats in congress. Senate Republicans went to the trouble of removing the Medicare element because Dems were threatening to bring it up for a vote. Ryan's budget was a massively stupid idea.

58 sagehen  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:19:22pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

I still think Ron Paul is a bit of a stretch. The Gop can't afford him to represent them in debates against Obama and spewing his radical nonsense as the nominee. I still think the GOP establishment will push Mitt through the primaries and get him the nomination just to have some sort of reasonable candidate.

Does nobody mention his age?

There was a blog last election, "Things That John McCain is Older Than" (penicillin, the polio vaccine, the Golden Gate Bridge, plutonium, nylon, both of Barak Obama's parents, etc)... but Ron Paul is something that John McCain is not older than.

Ron Paul was born in 1935. Do anybody seriously think 77 is a good age to be starting an 8-year high-stress long-hours job? Even if he wasn't a nut?

59 ProGunLiberal  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:23:44pm

re: #58 sagehen

And the fact that Ron Paul looks like he does at this age says something else. That he has led a cushy, unchallenging life. Compare to McCain, who looks about 10-15 years older than he actually is.

60 danhenry1  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:26:55pm

I have read Pamela Geller, her words are hateful, her research nonexistent! Yet, I believe there is something, within, that is starting to come around... Or am I to much into hope, and wishes?

61 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:27:48pm

re: #60 danhenry1

I have read Pamela Geller, her words are hateful, her research nonexistent! Yet, I believe there is something, within, that is starting to come around... Or am I to much into hope, and wishes?

Wishful thinking. Just look at the people she aligns herself with. That's not someone who is going to come around into anything anytime soon.

62 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:30:42pm

If Ron Paul gets the nomination it would be so great if he picks his son as VP. //

Paul/Paul 2012

63 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:32:08pm

Ready to toss the ball in the air in Oklahoma City

64 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:34:43pm

If any American city deserves a big sports moment, it is Oklahoma City.

65 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:35:44pm

Pamela Geller is considered a near-prophet on a certain mailing list for her 'expose' of the erroneously coined 'ground zero mosque.'

A real email exchange (sans names)..

Geller Fan: "Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf--Sufi building mosque in Manhattan"

Me: "No. Not a mosque. Mosque's as a rule don't include an olympic size swimming pool, a culinary school plus restaurant, a 500 seat auditorium, a library, art school, or a memorial to September 11, 2001.

But we can all thank Pamela Geller for the misinformation."

Geller Fan: "Not a mosque, a Super-Mosque, like a Super Wal-Mart."

Me: "There's nothing to support this..Why do you continue to promulgate the lie?"

Geller Fan: never responded back

66 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:36:29pm

re: #62 justaminute

If Ron Paul gets the nomination it would be so great if he picks his son as VP. //

Paul/Paul 2012

I would laugh if the GOP was dumb enough to nominate Ron Paul. They'd marginalize themselves in a HUGE way if they did that, because Ron Paul is on record saying he doesn't think people deserve disaster relief, that he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act, and that Social Security and Medicare are unconstitutional forms of slavery.

The GOP wouldn't just lose minorities and sane people, but they'd lose old people too, since Paul wants to cut out their safety net altogether. It would be the single greatest act of political seppuku since the Dems nominated Mondale.

67 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:42:03pm

Kevin Durant is pressing and trying too hard .... He needs to settle down

68 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:42:28pm

re: #66 Lidane

I would laugh if the GOP was dumb enough to nominate Ron Paul. They'd marginalize themselves in a HUGE way if they did that, because Ron Paul is on record saying he doesn't think people deserve disaster relief, that he would have opposed the Civil Rights Act, and that Social Security and Medicare are unconstitutional forms of slavery.

The GOP wouldn't just lose minorities and sane people, but they'd lose old people too, since Paul wants to cut out their safety net altogether. It would be the single greatest act of political seppuku since the Dems nominated Mondale.

Every thing you say is so true but watching the Republican party apparatus self implode would be something to watch. I think this election season for the Republicans is going to be so painful. After all the aspersions they cast on President Obama they so deserve it.

69 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:49:28pm

My husbands at the game. Our friends have the adorning seats. I don't really care about basketball and sold my ticket to a neighbor. If they win this we will be gone to Jamaica for the next games. Our kids have sold themselves into slavery to us for the tickets while were gone. Buying the tickets were so worth it. ;)

70 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:50:42pm

re: #69 justaminute

My husbands at the game. Our friends have the adorning seats. I don't really care about basketball and sold my ticket to a neighbor. If they win this we will be gone to Jamaica for the next games. Our kids have sold themselves into slavery to us for the tickets while were gone. Buying the tickets were so worth it. ;)

OKC is a great crowd environment ... Like a college crowd on steroids ... And Russell Westbrook is a force of nature!

71 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:53:16pm

re: #70 _RememberTonyC

OKC is a great crowd environment ... Like a college crowd on steroids ... And Russell Westbrook is a force of nature!

It's the blue out game today...This is exciting for OKC

72 lostlakehiker  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:54:12pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Palin is a contender for sure.

Palin is more dangerous than Geller because Palin is taken seriously by a few million fans.

As to who will be the Republican nominee, Romney has a serious chance. Also Christie or Daniels. Huckabee's out, Trump has no chance, Palin has no chance, and Paul has no chance.

There have to be a dozen dark horses I can't begin to name, each with a 1 or 2 percent chance of ending up the nominee.

Or, more accurately, one of them with a 25 percent chance and the others no chance, but I have no idea which one that one is.

73 dragonfire1981  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:55:09pm

The ad the site popped up alongside this column was for online anger management classes. Brilliant.

74 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:55:25pm

re: #71 HoosierHoops

It's the blue out game today...This is exciting for OKC

Almost as big as the Sooners Vs. the Huskers in football?

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:56:26pm

re: #6 jaunte

Robert Chalmers: "On the evidence of her writing alone, you might assume its author to be a male octogenarian in tweeds carrying a 12-bore."

I'm sure her writing has bored larger numbers than twelve.

I don't agree with him, actually. Her writing style is horrible, but it's horrible in a distinctly feminine way.

76 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:57:52pm

re: #10 jaunte

Here's a good capsule, if he doesn't want to read the whole thing:

Geller: "McCarthy was right. He went overboard, but he was right. The Communists were infiltrating and they have been very successful here in America."

And here we see the model for the Creeping Sharia phenomenon.

77 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 12:58:22pm

re: #74 _RememberTonyC

Almost as big as the Sooners Vs. the Huskers in football?

No..83,000 fans here in Norman is pretty big time..Heck the Colts only get 72,000 a game
I think the whole state is watching the game today though

78 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:00:36pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

No..83,000 fans here in Norman is pretty big time..Heck the Colts only get 72,000 a game
I think the whole state is watching the game today though

Agreed ... Nothing in OK touches Sooners football ... But the Thunder are giving you guys a great ride ...

79 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:01:53pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't agree with him, actually. Her writing style is horrible, but it's horrible in a distinctly feminine way.

I think he's referring to what she's saying, not how she's saying it. He's basically saying that she sounds like a cranky old man screaming at people to get off his damn lawn already.

80 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:04:08pm

Also, 12-bore = 12-gauge, so he's painting Crazy Pam as the crazy old neighbor who pulls shotguns on people while screaming about government conspiracy.

Sounds about right to me. Heh.

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:04:39pm

re: #58 sagehen

Does nobody mention his age?

There was a blog last election, "Things That John McCain is Older Than" (penicillin, the polio vaccine, the Golden Gate Bridge, plutonium, nylon, both of Barak Obama's parents, etc)... but Ron Paul is something that John McCain is not older than.

Ron Paul was born in 1935. Do anybody seriously think 77 is a good age to be starting an 8-year high-stress long-hours job? Even if he wasn't a nut?

I worried about McCain. Since I don't think Ron Paul is plugged in enough to reality to have stress from the presidency, I don't think that's a concern.

Also, he will never win, so that's also not a concern.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:05:52pm

re: #59 ProLifeLiberal

And the fact that Ron Paul looks like he does at this age says something else. That he has led a cushy, unchallenging life. Compare to McCain, who looks about 10-15 years older than he actually is.

Not everyone can spend five and half years being held prisoner by the Viet Cong.

83 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:06:24pm

I am only 5'1" tall and they spend most of the time standing up so I have to watch the game on the big screen in the middle of the court. It seems like every one of the people in front of us is over 6 feet. What's the point, I might as well watch it at home.

I was at Dillards at Penn Square with my husband and I was buying him some shirts for our trip and there was this guy in front of me having a hard time picking out a tie and I suggested one and he liked it. He thanked me and was patting me on the shoulder. My husband comes up from another part of the store. He starts walking real fast and come up to me saying "Do you know who that is? That's Russell Westbrook!" I had no idea, although he has lousy taste in ties. At least he has a nice one now. Ha Ha

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:07:18pm

re: #65 eclectic infidel

Pamela Geller is considered a near-prophet on a certain mailing list for her 'expose' of the erroneously coined 'ground zero mosque.'

A real email exchange (sans names)..

Geller Fan: "Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf--Sufi building mosque in Manhattan"

Me: "No. Not a mosque. Mosque's as a rule don't include an olympic size swimming pool, a culinary school plus restaurant, a 500 seat auditorium, a library, art school, or a memorial to September 11, 2001.

But we can all thank Pamela Geller for the misinformation."

Geller Fan: "Not a mosque, a Super-Mosque, like a Super Wal-Mart."

Me: "There's nothing to support this..Why do you continue to promulgate the lie?"

Geller Fan: never responded back

To clarify, I think I was the one who referred to him as a Sufi building a mosque in Manhattan. Then you corrected, then I agreed, and THEN the Geller fans attacked.

//I was a history major. I nitpick.

85 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:10:05pm

re: #83 justaminute

I am only 5'1" tall and they spend most of the time standing up so I have to watch the game on the big screen in the middle of the court. It seems like every one of the people in front of us is over 6 feet. What's the point, I might as well watch it at home.

I was at Dillards at Penn Square with my husband and I was buying him some shirts for our trip and there was this guy in front of me having a hard time picking out a tie and I suggested one and he liked it. He thanked me and was patting me on the shoulder. My husband comes up from another part of the store. He starts walking real fast and come up to me saying "Do you know who that is? That's Russell Westbrook!" I had no idea, although he has lousy taste in ties. At least he has a nice one now. Ha Ha

You didn't recognize Westbrook? That stupid Norman car commercial he sings drives me mad...
/

86 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:11:27pm

re: #83 justaminute

I am only 5'1" tall and they spend most of the time standing up so I have to watch the game on the big screen in the middle of the court. It seems like every one of the people in front of us is over 6 feet. What's the point, I might as well watch it at home.

I was at Dillards at Penn Square with my husband and I was buying him some shirts for our trip and there was this guy in front of me having a hard time picking out a tie and I suggested one and he liked it. He thanked me and was patting me on the shoulder. My husband comes up from another part of the store. He starts walking real fast and come up to me saying "Do you know who that is? That's Russell Westbrook!" I had no idea, although he has lousy taste in ties. At least he has a nice one now. Ha Ha

Cool story .... He is a big guy for a guard ... 6'6"

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:11:46pm

re: #72 lostlakehiker

Palin is more dangerous than Geller because Palin is taken seriously by a few million fans.

That may well be true, but Palin, frankly, is less of a hate-monger than Geller. Even that damn 'peaceful Muslims, please refudiate' shows Palin as someone who assumes there are peaceful Muslims out there, and they'll agree with her. 'Cause all right-minded people think like Sarah Palin.

Geller has established herself in many people's mind as some kind of expert on Islam, and her demonization of Muslims--all Muslims, I'm sorry, making an exception for Wafa Sultan doesn't count--is vicious, nonstop, and reflects the strategies of Nazi Germany and classical anti-Semitism. She whips people up into a frenzy of believing that the entire religion is illegitimate, and that all its followers are a clear and present danger to THEM.

Palin is just milking an 'aw shucks' routine. It is different.

Pam Geller: one of the few people on earth who can make me speak kindly of Sarah Palin.

88 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:11:52pm

Tuckered out after a long day of Zionist oppression....
[Link: www.daylife.com...]

89 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:12:48pm

re: #80 Lidane

Also, 12-bore = 12-gauge, so he's painting Crazy Pam as the crazy old neighbor who pulls shotguns on people while screaming about government conspiracy.

Sounds about right to me. Heh.

Yeah, but everyone AVOIDS that guy.

Geller gets pets and encouragement to get crazier.

90 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:15:12pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Tuckered out after a long day of Zionist oppression...
[Link: www.daylife.com...]

Partners for peace?

91 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:16:04pm

re: #85 HoosierHoops

You didn't recognize Westbrook? That stupid Norman car commercial he sings drives me mad...
/

You sound like my husband. I record all the shows I watch so I can skip the commercials. I should have known by the amount of male clerks that were standing there. I was just anxious for him to hurry up so I could get paid out.

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:17:03pm

re: #90 _RememberTonyC

Partners for peace?

You kidding? Get those guys right before naptime, and they'll trade the Right of Return for milk and cookies like THAT.

93 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:17:24pm

Thunder starting to roll ... Even Kendrick Perkins buried a jumper!

94 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:19:02pm

re: #92 SanFranciscoZionist

You kidding? Get those guys right before naptime, and they'll trade the Right of Return for milk and cookies like THAT.

Partners for peace in The Land of Milk and ... Cookies?

95 Achilles Tang  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:24:13pm

What did Geller call herself when she was on LGF?

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:27:06pm

re: #95 naso tang

What did Geller call herself when she was on LGF?

I think it was her blog name, Atlasshrugs.

97 Achilles Tang  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:27:11pm

Tehran Times SQL error

Could it be that the Tehran Times is running an out of date pirate copy of MS SQL?

98 God of Binders with Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:30:17pm

re: #70 _RememberTonyC

OKC is a great crowd environment ... Like a college crowd on steroids ... And Russell Westbrook is a force of nature!

Ahem. Aren't you forgetting a certain someone? I'll give you a hint: First name- Kevin, Last name- Durant.

99 God of Binders with Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:30:44pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

I think it was her blog name, Atlasshrugs.

Atlas Shrieks, perhaps?

100 prairiefire  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:32:24pm

re: #91 justaminute

You sound like my husband. I record all the shows I watch so I can skip the commercials. I should have known by the amount of male clerks that were standing there. I was just anxious for him to hurry up so I could get paid out.

"Get yo big self out of my way."

101 God of Binders with Women  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:34:28pm

Good God, all those typo, rage-filled posts has really taken a toll on Harpy's appearance. The best Photoshop expert in the world couldn't help her out.

102 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:36:09pm

re: #98 Kid A

Ahem. Aren't you forgetting a certain someone? I'll give you a hint: First name- Kevin, Last name- Durant.

I predicted on another thread he would score 35 today .... And he has 18 at halftime!

103 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:40:25pm

re: #100 prairiefire

"Get yo big self out of my way."

I was mad at first, there was 3 clerks just standing and watching and 2 cash registers. I had my big ole purse and a bunch of shirts I wanted to pay for. But the ties they were looking at were freaking terrible, I think men are color blind. I had to chime in so they would move along.

104 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:44:30pm

whew. That is finally done. I had a bird's nest near my A/C unit. A co-worker who does a little bit of handyman stuff got rid of it. My toilet was leaking; it has been fixed. No more 5 am wake up call from Mr Sparrow and his Girlfriends.

105 Tigger2005  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:49:01pm

re: #62 justaminute

If Ron Paul gets the nomination it would be so great if he picks his son as VP. //

Paul/Paul 2012

Da doo Ron/Ron

106 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:49:30pm

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

To clarify, I think I was the one who referred to him as a Sufi building a mosque in Manhattan. Then you corrected, then I agreed, and THEN the Geller fans attacked.

//I was a history major. I nitpick.

but do you pick lint on occasion?

107 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:53:59pm

By the way, I just discovered that Ron Paul has also been a guest on the white supremacist radio show Political Cesspool. But the troglodyte who runs the show, James Edwards, has apparently scrubbed Paul's interview from his website, and he isn't mentioned on the guest list. Hmm.

108 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:56:00pm

re: #105 Tigger2005

Da doo Ron/Ron

There could be some epic name play off of their names if they were in play for 2012.

109 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:56:04pm

re: #107 Charles
curiousier and curiousier.

110 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:56:49pm

The interview took place on August 16, 2006:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

111 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:57:28pm

re: #40 ausador

That would be an apt punishment for Newt, who HATES Palin.

112 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:58:15pm

Ron Paul's interview happened just a week after The Political Cesspool hosted David Duke:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

113 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, May 15, 2011 1:58:55pm

re: #110 Charles

Good find, Charles. That filthy bigot Jerome Corsi also showed up on Political Cesspool.

114 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:03:18pm

There appears to be no record of the interview on the web. Curious.

115 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:11:54pm

re: #114 Charles

There appears to be no record of the interview on the web. Curious.

You can bet Ron Paul would want to make that disappear. But how do you do that?

116 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:12:08pm

I'm really getting curious about this interview. This could be the most direct connection yet between Ron Paul and the neo-Nazi white supremacist underground.

117 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:12:15pm

re: #89 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, but everyone AVOIDS that guy.

Everyone used to avoid that guy until he gained legitimacy after 9/11, and then again after Obama got elected. It's not an accident that the Tea Party demographic tends to look and/or think like that guy.

Geller gets pets and encouragement to get crazier.

So do the howler monkeys on talk radio and Fox News, and other bloggers, like Dim Hoft. It's all about appealing to the base, who are reactionary and stupid.

118 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:13:40pm

re: #116 Charles

I'm really getting curious about this interview. This could be the most direct connection yet between Ron Paul and the neo-Nazi white supremacist underground.

the Black Hole...stuff will vanish off the net like crazy the closer the election

119 aagcobb  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:13:44pm

re: #72 lostlakehiker

Of the people who are actually running, I think that Romney, the frontrunner, has essentially eliminated himself by refusing to renounce Romneycare-I don't see how he can win GOP primaries. Since Huck, Trump and Palin won't run, and Paul is too libertarian to win, that essentially leaves one guy starting with name recognition, Newt, one Tea Party favorite, Bachmann, and three relative unknowns with solid gubernatorial credentials, Pawlenty and Daniels and Huntsman, if they run. Newt is so unlikeable, and Bachmann is so extreme, I would expect the nominee to be Pawlenty or one of the other two.

120 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:14:08pm

re: #116 Charles

I'm really getting curious about this interview. This could be the most direct connection yet between Ron Paul and the neo-Nazi white supremacist underground.

If Political Cesspool is that awful (never listened to it, but I'll take your word that it's racist and horrible), wouldn't there be someone monitoring them, like the SPLC or some sort of watchdog? Maybe they'd have tapes available.

121 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:16:03pm

re: #119 aagcobb

Of the people who are actually running, I think that Romney, the frontrunner, has essentially eliminated himself by refusing to renounce Romneycare-I don't see how he can win GOP primaries. Since Huck, Trump and Palin won't run, and Paul is too libertarian to win, that essentially leaves one guy starting with name recognition, Newt, one Tea Party favorite, Bachmann, and three relative unknowns with solid gubernatorial credentials, Pawlenty and Daniels and Huntsman, if they run. Newt is so unlikeable, and Bachmann is so extreme, I would expect the nominee to be Pawlenty or one of the other two.

nobody you can think of will run...all these poseurs are a diversion

122 aagcobb  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:17:18pm

re: #121 albusteve

Who will be the nominee then? The GOP has to run somebody.

123 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:18:43pm

re: #122 aagcobb

Who will be the nominee then? The GOP has to run somebody.

beats me...some nobody from nowhere...worked for the dems last time around...look for a guy with a wide smile and a shiny gold tooth

124 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:19:33pm

re: #120 Lidane

If Political Cesspool is that awful (never listened to it, but I'll take your word that it's racist and horrible), wouldn't there be someone monitoring them, like the SPLC or some sort of watchdog? Maybe they'd have tapes available.

Probably as the primary goes along a lot of all the candidates past will come home to haunt them. I think that is some of the reason why they do get in the first place. I think Ron Paul's past will be drug out by Republicans themselves if he wins some primaries.

125 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:20:58pm

re: #115 justaminute

You can bet Ron Paul would want to make that disappear. But how do you do that?

Cash, aka Republican White-Out.

Interesting exchange on the Demarcationville blog:

Ron Paul, the Presidential Candidate, is the same Ron Paul, Congressman, who appeared on Political Cesspool with James Edwards. Why yes, Political Cesspool is the same radio talk show that caught the attention of the Southern Law and Poverty Center and was later placed on the annual Hate Group Watch List.

...

on November 15, 2007 at 2:02 am | Reply RONPAULREVOLUTION
Get your facts straight. Ron Paul has never appeared on the Political Cesspool. Though we support him wholeheartedly, he has never been on our program. Why would you use falsehood to discredit an honorable man?

on November 15, 2007 at 8:59 am | Reply demarcationville
Odd. You had him listed as on your site a former guest, did you not?

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:23:59pm

re: #123 albusteve

beats me...some nobody from nowhere...worked for the dems last time around...look for a guy with a wide smile and a shiny gold tooth

Obama was hardly 'some nobody from nowhere'. He'd been on a shortlist of rising stars in the party since 2004, and he was in the Senate.

127 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:24:31pm

re: #114 Charles

I found this one reference to it:

[Link: nicolen.wordpress.com...]

It is weird. Maybe he canceled on them?

They certainly spend a lot of time defending him.

Warning, the below is a cache to a white supremacist site:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

128 Lidane  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:24:41pm

re: #123 albusteve

beats me...some nobody from nowhere...worked for the dems last time around...look for a guy with a wide smile and a shiny gold tooth

Except that Obama really wasn't a random choice. The Dems tend to feature people they want to test the waters with at the DNC. Clinton was the keynote speaker in 1988, then the candidate in 1992. Obama was the keynote in 2004 and the candidate in 2008.

129 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:26:48pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

Obama was hardly 'some nobody from nowhere'. He'd been on a shortlist of rising stars in the party since 2004, and he was in the Senate.

a star for the dems...he had zero national recognition, media wise, where all the decisions are made

130 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:26:56pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

Saw that. Whoever posted it says "our" show, so I assume it's James Edwards using the name "RONPAULREVOLUTION".

But there are numerous places on the web with announcements that the interview is scheduled. Maybe Ron Paul canceled - or maybe he knows how damaging it would be to be associated with these overt racists, and it's being covered up.

131 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:27:30pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

They've made their site hidden to the waybackmachine, so no love there.

132 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:27:48pm

re: #128 Lidane

Except that Obama really wasn't a random choice. The Dems tend to feature people they want to test the waters with at the DNC. Clinton was the keynote speaker in 1988, then the candidate in 1992. Obama was the keynote in 2004 and the candidate in 2008.

I didn't say he was a random choice...I believe just the opposite

133 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:27:56pm

Ugh. As soon as you start searching for information on this, you're at neo-Nazi websites. They sure do love Ron Paul.

134 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:29:24pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

Obama was hardly 'some nobody from nowhere'. He'd been on a shortlist of rising stars in the party since 2004, and he was in the Senate.


Barack Obama Speech at 2004 DNC Convention


A star is born
135 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:30:28pm

People who label their own site with the adjective "cesspool" seem like scumbags who are PROUD to be scumbags.

136 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:31:13pm

re: #133 Charles

Jesus Christ. I'd never read anything this Edwards fucker had written before. Now I feel like I need a shower. The racism just drips off him. He uses words like 'minority' as though they're curse words.

137 bratwurst  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:31:19pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Maybe the GOP can do something similar and pluck a speaker for their last convention and make him the nominee this time around...Joe Lieberman anyone?

138 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:31:24pm

re: #130 Charles

Ugh

Saw that. Whoever posted it says "our" show, so I assume it's James Edwards using the name "RONPAULREVOLUTION".

But there are numerous places on the web with announcements that the interview is scheduled. Maybe Ron Paul canceled - or maybe he knows how damaging it would be to be associated with these overt racists, and it's being covered up.

Did you see Stormfront's a poll dated October 2007 asking "Should Ron Paul be on the Political Cesspool?" Only four comments from three posters, could be a retcon.

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:32:05pm

re: #129 albusteve

a star for the dems...he had zero national recognition, media wise, where all the decisions are made

His name came up on an episode of 'Will and Grace'...the media was taking note.

And it didn't seem to hurt him none.

The GOP has a lot of parallel figures, I just don't know if any of them will be a. ready for prime time and b. willing to blow a good shot to go up against Obama.

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:32:52pm

re: #132 albusteve

I didn't say he was a random choice...I believe just the opposite

So he was a handpicked nobody from nowhere?

OK, I can work with that.

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:33:24pm

re: #136 Obdicut

Jesus Christ. I'd never read anything this Edwards fucker had written before. Now I feel like I need a shower. The racism just drips off him. He uses words like 'minority' as though they're curse words.

No wonder people like him are so afraid of being minorities.

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:34:15pm

re: #137 bratwurst

Maybe the GOP can do something similar and pluck a speaker for their last convention and make him the nominee this time around...Joe Lieberman anyone?

Just so long as it's not the guy--who was the guy who does the furniture speech? About the veterans and the desks, and it's this really touching story except it takes freaking forever?

143 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:34:44pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

He's definitely in the "Jews aren't white" camp. Geez, it's getting so hard to tell if I'm white these days. I should get an email alert about it.

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:35:10pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

Just so long as it's not the guy--who was the guy who does the furniture speech? About the veterans and the desks, and it's this really touching story except it takes freaking forever?

Oh, crap, that was Huckabee. Well he's out of the running anyway.

145 albusteve  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:35:24pm

re: #140 SanFranciscoZionist

So he was a handpicked nobody from nowhere?

OK, I can work with that.

yes, nowhere being a metaphor of course

146 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:35:35pm

Excuse me while I go dip my Macbook in Bactine.

147 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:35:55pm

re: #143 Obdicut

He's definitely in the "Jews aren't white" camp. Geez, it's getting so hard to tell if I'm white these days. I should get an email alert about it.

Can you dunk a basketball on a regulation hoop?

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:36:22pm

re: #143 Obdicut

He's definitely in the "Jews aren't white" camp. Geez, it's getting so hard to tell if I'm white these days. I should get an email alert about it.

Your whiteness level for the day is...

I'd say I was at least half white, except some of these guys still have their doubts about the Irish.

149 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:36:29pm

re: #116 Charles

I'm really getting curious about this interview. This could be the most direct connection yet between Ron Paul and the neo-Nazi white supremacist underground.

I couldn't find the interview itself but the search did turn up some interesting items. This is Liveleak post of Political Cesspool correspondent Jamie Kelso reporting very enthusiastically from a Ron Paul speaking engagement in Fort Worth in 2007. Kelso mentions the Ron Paul Revolution's benefits for "our white America."

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:36:52pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

Excuse me while I go dip my Macbook in Bactine.

It's gotta be holy water, or it doesn't get the racist demons off.

151 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:37:40pm

re: #147 _RememberTonyC

No, but I'm not from French Lick, nor am I Sandy Koufax.

[Link: books.google.com...]

152 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:40:13pm

re: #116 Charles

I'm really getting curious about this interview. This could be the most direct connection yet between Ron Paul and the neo-Nazi white supremacist underground.

What about that picture of him with Don Black?

153 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:40:16pm

re: #151 Obdicut

No, but I'm not from French Lick, nor am I Sandy Koufax.

[Video][Link: books.google.com...]

I think you're white ... And by the way, Sandy Koufax was an outstanding basketball player who COULD dunk. The man was a G-d :)

154 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:40:31pm

re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist

Your whiteness level for the day is...

I'd say I was at least half white, except some of these guys still have their doubts about the Irish.

The other half of me is Scandinavian, with a little Celtic thrown in. However, if I get some sun, I tan to a deep Levantine brown. So I wouldn't pass a paper bag test during the summer.

The racists should send out some sort of memo of exactly what their criteria are these days. With all the race-mixin' and all, it's getting mighty confusin'.

155 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:41:12pm

re: #153 _RememberTonyC

I think you're white ... And by the way, Sandy Koufax was an outstanding basketball player who COULD dunk. The man was a G-d :)

I know. That's why I linked to a book about how he was an outstanding basketball player who could also dunk. He's one of my personal heroes.

156 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:41:23pm

re: #143 Obdicut

He's definitely in the "Jews aren't white" camp. Geez, it's getting so hard to tell if I'm white these days. I should get an email alert about it.

"I'm not black, but there's a whole lotta times I wish I could say
I'm not white."

-- Frank Zappa

157 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:42:01pm
158 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:42:37pm

re: #152 Alouette

What about that picture of him with Don Black?

This one here.

159 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:45:09pm

re: #156 Charles

"I'm not black, but there's a whole lotta times I wish I could say
I'm not white."

-- Frank Zappa

I gave up on figuring out Jews and whiteness when I realized that some website of 'women writers of color' had included Marjorie Agosin.

160 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:45:17pm

re: #155 Obdicut

I know. That's why I linked to a book about how he was an outstanding basketball player who could also dunk. He's one of my personal heroes.

D'oh ... I didn't even read the link ... Maybe I remembered you telling me he could dunk on a previous post. My buddy's ex wife had a memorable interaction with Koufax in Delray Beach a few years ago ...

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:45:47pm

re: #159 SanFranciscoZionist

I gave up on figuring out Jews and whiteness when I realized that some website of 'women writers of color' had included Marjorie Agosin.

It would be the least of my concerns, except that race is a powerful and much-used tool in the delegitimization of Israel.

162 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:46:04pm

re: #160 _RememberTonyC

My buddy's ex wife had a memorable interaction with Koufax in Delray Beach a few years ago

Oh really? What was it?

I'd love to meet him, but he's one of the more private persons. Wouldn't want to bother him.

163 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:49:29pm

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

I would agree with everything yo usaid, SFZionist. Palin is pure showbiz, latching on to any game in town that will pay her the big bucks. The Political Cesspool/white nationalist types hate her, mainly because of her stated stance on Israel and her marriage to a part-Indian.

164 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:51:14pm

re: #133 Charles

Ugh. As soon as you start searching for information on this, you're at neo-Nazi websites. They sure do love Ron Paul.

Gee, I wonder why the racists like him so much?
/

165 Obdicut  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:51:20pm

re: #163 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Interesting, uh, name you've got there.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:51:39pm

re: #163 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I would agree with everything yo usaid, SFZionist. Palin is pure showbiz, latching on to any game in town that will pay her the big bucks. The Political Cesspool/white nationalist types hate her, mainly because of her stated stance on Israel and her marriage to a part-Indian.

Really? That's interesting. Well, hopefully it will keep her away from them.

167 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:52:45pm

re: #152 Alouette

What about that picture of him with Don Black?

Ron Paul dodged that one by saying, hey it was crowded, they came up and took a picture, it doesn't mean anything. Then he refused to return a campaign donation from Black's site Stormfront.

168 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:54:41pm

re: #162 Obdicut

Oh really? What was it?

I'd love to meet him, but he's one of the more private persons. Wouldn't want to bother him.

She was at the deli counter at a grocery store ... Some old dude from Delray comes up to this very tanned man waiting for his number to be called and says " you look very familiar" but the tanned man tells the old dude he must be mistaken and the old guy walks away. After he is gone, the tanned man kind of chuckled "if he only knew." My friend's ex asks the man who he is and he tells her "Sandy Koufax." Even though she is not a sports fan, she knew his name and asked for his autograph on her deli ticket and he obliged. Koufax IS notoriously private. I have a vivid memory of him myself from spring training in the early 1980's back in Dodgertown in Florida.

169 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:56:37pm

re: #168 _RememberTonyC

Great story...Thunder are going to win!

170 SpaceJesus  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:56:52pm

spacejesus in da news

[Link: www.koat.com...]

171 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:57:46pm

re: #169 HoosierHoops

Great story...Thunder are going to win!

Who predicted Durant would get 35 today in an OKC win?

172 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 2:59:49pm

re: #171 _RememberTonyC

Who predicted Durant would get 35 today in an OKC win?

Of course I was not quite accurate .... Durant scored 39!

Congrats Thunder

173 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:00:18pm

We're going to Dallas!

174 Digital Display  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:00:51pm

re: #171 _RememberTonyC

Who predicted Durant would get 35 today in an OKC win?

Westbrook gets a triple double!
Here we come Dallas

175 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:01:43pm

re: #171 _RememberTonyC

Who predicted Durant would get 35 today in an OKC win?

You did. Your da man!

176 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:03:09pm

re: #174 HoosierHoops

Westbrook gets a triple double!
Here we come Dallas

Rick Carlisle will have his hands full trying to devise a plan to stop Westbrook, but Rick is a great coach. I predict Mavs in 7 games, but I could see OKC winning as well. Should be great!

177 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:03:45pm

re: #165 Obdicut

What can I say, I've been blessed to live in interesting times.

178 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:06:12pm

My son is coming home Monday night if his last flight goes off. They have to do some formation flights then he's home free till his graduation in June. We're giving him some of the tickets to the games. I think I will count that as some of his graduation presents.

179 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:06:59pm

re: #178 justaminute

My son is coming home Monday night if his last flight goes off. They have to do some formation flights then he's home free till his graduation in June. We're giving him some of the tickets to the games. I think I will count that as some of his graduation presents.

You are a goddess ... He is a lucky kid

180 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:09:25pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, and not to mention she's got the wrong body parts for wielding any authority over white nationalist males. The only real crossover was the Alaskan Independence Party affiliation of her husband in the '00s. AIP is the AK affiliate of the Constitution Party, which does have a flirtation with the anti-Israel extremist right, but not enough of one, and not a pure enough of one on top of it. It sounds like an odd thing to say, but Palin is too liberal for them. 2 different factions of the whackjob right.

181 justaminute  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:10:16pm

re: #179 _RememberTonyC

You are a goddess ... He is a lucky kid

Why thank you sir! He's a good kid. But I'm sure his sister will be fussing about it.

182 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:12:25pm

re: #170 SpaceJesus

spacejesus in da news

[Link: www.koat.com...]

You're Elena kagan? Nah--congratulations.

183 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:13:25pm

re: #156 Charles

"I'm not black, but there's a whole lotta times I wish I could say
I'm not white."

-- Frank Zappa

184 SpaceJesus  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:19:45pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

thanks man. I got interviewed by All Things Considered after her speech too. I'd link to the broadcast but the internet abounds with creeps.

185 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:21:46pm

re: #156 Charles

Thankfully, we Blacks do not have that issue. I'm always amused at the people who are insulted or bad manners that they are not validated as "white" by other so-called whites. Personally, I'm grateful I'll never be mistaken for one.

186 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:21:49pm

re: #133 Charles

Ugh. As soon as you start searching for information on this, you're at neo-Nazi websites. They sure do love Ron Paul.

of course they do. once pure libertarian is established, it will make it much, much easier to oppress groups these nazi creeps find objectionable to the American experience.

187 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:27:15pm

re: #185 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Thankfully, we Blacks do not have that issue. I'm always amused at the people who are insulted or bad manners that they are not validated as "white" by other so-called whites. Personally, I'm grateful I'll never be mistaken for one.

I understand each one of those words individually, but if I am to take the arrangement of those words as a meaningful message expressing a particular idea, then I have failed. I have no idea what they could possibly mean.

188 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:33:34pm

Ugh, just looked at Charles' list of Political Cesspool guests [Link: bit.ly...] and saw that dumb bigot Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party was on there. That's no surprise.

But Gary Puckett of Gary Puckett and the Union Gap? Lol, his vocals from "Woman, Woman" are nothing but white imitation faux soul vocals, ripped off from Black artist styles. I guess he's another one who believes everything we come up with belongs to whites, by default. Too bad. I really like that song.

189 engineer cat  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:54:02pm

re: #122 aagcobb

Who will be the nominee then? The GOP has to run somebody.

this wouldn't be a problem and the gop would just nominate romney as the leadership clearly wants to, except for the fact that the republican party is splitting in two. The wingnut part won't accept anybody that regular republicans and independants would consider, and vice versa

i know a lot of regular republicans don't like romney either, but the fundamental split in the republican party will be there regardless of romney, and imho isn't gonna go away until the republican party actually splits in two and the tea party and the republican party run two separate nominees and campaigns for the presidency

thnking that this will all be resolved by a magic candidate who somehow nobody can manage to think of at this moment is just the clearest sign of desperation

190 martinsmithy  Sun, May 15, 2011 3:56:27pm

Pamela Geller had a short run at being the most dangerous woman in America during the "Ground Zero Mosque" nonsensical controversy.

But her 15 minutes of heightened fame are over now.

Speaking of which, I haven't heard anything about that whole ruckus for quite a while now. Maybe because I haven't visited the Atlasshrugged site for a couple of years now (at least).

191 theheat  Sun, May 15, 2011 4:42:25pm

Late to the game, but Pam's outside is beginning to mirror how freaky she is on the inside. She's beginning to look like the Toxic Avenger's bride. Like stuff is melting.

Many, many people not considered beautiful really are beautiful on the inside. Pam bears the misfortune of being neither.

192 lostlakehiker  Sun, May 15, 2011 4:54:55pm

re: #87 SanFranciscoZionist

That may well be true, but Palin, frankly, is less of a hate-monger than Geller. Even that damn 'peaceful Muslims, please refudiate' shows Palin as someone who assumes there are peaceful Muslims out there, and they'll agree with her. 'Cause all right-minded people think like Sarah Palin.

Geller has established herself in many people's mind as some kind of expert on Islam, and her demonization of Muslims--all Muslims, I'm sorry, making an exception for Wafa Sultan doesn't count--is vicious, nonstop, and reflects the strategies of Nazi Germany and classical anti-Semitism. She whips people up into a frenzy of believing that the entire religion is illegitimate, and that all its followers are a clear and present danger to THEM.

Palin is just milking an 'aw shucks' routine. It is different.

Pam Geller: one of the few people on earth who can make me speak kindly of Sarah Palin.

But Geller isn't going to get anywhere with her rants, because she's sowing her seeds on flinty ground. Americans of 2010 are not Germans of 1930.

And, not to put too fine a point on it, there's evil genius, and there's noxious joke. Geller lacks the talent that propelled Hitler into history, even if she were as malignant. Which she isn't.

Hitler: one of a slightly larger number of people on earth who can make me speak kindly of Geller.

193 [deleted]  Sun, May 15, 2011 5:29:40pm
194 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 15, 2011 5:35:33pm

Spammer.

195 yasharki  Mon, May 16, 2011 12:53:25am

The woman is mental, insane, crazy, unstable, whatever else English language allows, but not someone to be considered by intelligent crowd. The more you blog/comment about her the more legitimacy you allow her. She's a (*#&$ joke, can't you drop her as such, and watch her disappear

196 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:45:08am

I think it would be closed-minded of intelligent persons to dismiss Ms Geller's rantings as that of a unstable loon without need of further investigation.

What we're really witnessing with Pamela is her true blue hatred of anything Islamic, or crudely assumed to be of Islam by the tiniest shred of nonsense available.

Anyway, it's late..

197 Ming  Mon, May 16, 2011 1:40:40pm

I've noticed this before with Ms. Geller, when there was that controversy about the mosque close to Ground Zero in Manhattan. Ms. Geller was interviewed on TV, maybe by 60 minutes? I remember how she backpedaled on just about everything she said. No, I'm not a hateful person, and I never said anything like that... etc. etc. She clearly feels much more comfortable at a computer keyboard than she does in 3D.


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