1 theheat  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:25:38pm

Canna? Looks like a canna leaf. They’re beautiful.

2 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:26:42pm

Red Stripes!
been there

that green waterfall pic almost inspired me to ask for more of your stuff…I didn’t but you have…very nice work

3 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:26:58pm

Red! Red stripes! I knew it! Charles is a sekrit communist!

4 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:27:35pm

re: #3 EmmmieG

Red! Red stripes! I knew it! Charles is a sekrit communist!

he’s a closet Rasta…bet me

5 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:28:17pm

re: #4 albusteve

he’s a closet Rasta…bet me

No deal.

6 darthstar  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:30:47pm

Good to see you getting back behind the shutter.

7 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:32:50pm

re: #6 darthstar

Good to see you getting back behind the shutter.

bring that stuff over to Santa Fe….make some money

8 sod  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:33:26pm

re: #6 darthstar

I was wondering about the bike rides. We haven’t had any open threads with pictures of sprockets and tales impossible uphill grades.

9 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:33:51pm

re: #7 albusteve

Art Photography is an incredibly hard nut to crack. Insanely oversaturated as it is.

10 sod  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:35:26pm

re: #8 sod

I quit. Two sentences and I can’t get those right. I meant to say,

I was wondering about the bike rides. We haven’t had any open threads with pictures of sprockets and tales of impossible uphill grades in a while.

11 sod  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:36:34pm

I’m going to go play my guitar and slip back into lurker mode for the next few months.

12 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:37:23pm

re: #11 sod

I’m going to go play my guitar and slip back into lurker mode for the next few months.

when you have mastered Louie Louie come back

13 darthstar  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:38:59pm

re: #12 albusteve

when you have mastered Louie Louie come back

Or just when you can play Stairway to Heaven better than this:

14 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:39:20pm

check out this old gem…Charles’ buddies covering Louie Louie
priceless!

15 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:41:10pm

re: #13 darthstar

Or just when you can play Stairway to Heaven better than this:

[Video]

at least he’s playing a mini Strat…

16 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:42:39pm

Red Stripe meets Louie Louie
Toots

17 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 4:48:47pm

Leningrd Cowboys?

18 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:00:55pm

White Stripes.

19 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:06:38pm

New page: So long Fourth Amendment - Supreme Court: No warrant needed if police discern destruction of evidence

You have no Fourth Amendment rights anymore, even in non-emergency cases they’re contingent on what the police say they can smell or hear. Ginsberg was the lone holdout.

20 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:07:25pm

And a Red Stripe to wash this down…

21 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:15:53pm
22 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:16:29pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

New page: So long Fourth Amendment - Supreme Court: No warrant needed if police discern destruction of evidence

You have no Fourth Amendment rights anymore, even in non-emergency cases they’re contingent on what the police say they can smell or hear. Ginsberg was the lone holdout.

that’s gonna lead to some gunfights I’m afraid…burning weed or hiding your coke is not worth it

23 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:18:23pm

re: #22 albusteve

that’s gonna lead to some gunfights I’m afraid…burning weed or hiding your coke is not worth it

I’d like to see a trend develop, pot scented air fresheners and door bells that trigger .wav file recordings of toilets flushing.

24 What, me worry?  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:20:48pm

Croton? We have these in the yard. Some of my favorites! (This one was isn’t mine tho.)

25 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:22:19pm

Hot Air comment of the day….

I know Bachmann can make a great deal of sense and everything, but frankly, she has crazy eyes.

cynccook on May 16, 2011 at 8:10 PM


Lol

26 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:23:04pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

I’d like to see a trend develop, pot scented air fresheners and door bells that trigger .wav file recordings of toilets flushing.

LOL!
good one
crashing in on suspected dealers and users is not cool…unless of course you are talking some monster operation involving a lot of cash and people…there is just too much violence with regard to petty stuff, if you get my drift

27 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:23:39pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

It’ll take me some time to read through the case, but it seems that the Court found that the exigent circumstances rule applies when the police do not create the exigency by engaging or threatening to engage in conduct that violates the Fourth Amendment - particularly where the law enforcement believes that evidence may be destroyed.

The presumption that searches and seizures inside a home without a warrant are unreasonable can be overcome when “ ‘the exigencies of the situation’ make the needs of law enforcement so compelling that [a]warrantless search is objectively reasonable under the Fourth Amendment,” Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U. S. 385, 394. One such exigency is the need “to prevent the imminent destruction of evidence.”

This is the kind of situation where someone is heard flushing evidence down a toilet, but it could potentially be interpreted to apply to someone using computers to eliminate a paper trail of evidence (white collar crimes, child porn, money laundering, fraud, etc.). That gives quite a bit of leeway, and I’m not sure that the law enforcement can be trusted with that kind of power.

28 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:23:57pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

Maybe like the radar gun scanners that alert you to a speed trap?

29 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:29:23pm

re: #28 Floral Giraffe

In that case, the law enforcement would be creating the exigency.

30 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:29:55pm

re: #27 lawhawk

I’m not opposed to SWAT tactics if the situation warrants it…and they have the correct addy…blowing people away because they resist intrusion is just plain wrong….I don’t give a damn how much drugs are involved

31 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:43:10pm

re: #27 lawhawk

It’ll take me some time to read through the case, but it seems that the Court found that the exigent circumstances rule applies when the police do not create the exigency by engaging or threatening to engage in conduct that violates the Fourth Amendment - particularly where the law enforcement believes that evidence may be destroyed.

The presumption that searches and seizures inside a home without a warrant are unreasonable can be overcome when “ ‘the exigencies of the situation’ make the needs of law enforcement so compelling that [a]warrantless search is objectively reasonable under the Fourth Amendment,” Mincey v. Arizona, 437 U. S. 385, 394. One such exigency is the need “to prevent the imminent destruction of evidence.”

This is the kind of situation where someone is heard flushing evidence down a toilet, but it could potentially be interpreted to apply to someone using computers to eliminate a paper trail of evidence (white collar crimes, child porn, money laundering, fraud, etc.). That gives quite a bit of leeway, and I’m not sure that the law enforcement can be trusted with that kind of power.

It’s not a bad decision, but it could use some refinement. Still, the idea that the cops don’t need to wait if they hear someone flushing drugs is a sound one.

32 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:45:58pm

re: #9 windsagio

Heh. Tell me about it. When I finally got a show scheduled at a local a gallery it failed to thrive and went away a month before my showing. Good thing I got commercial work to support my art.

BTW Dragon_Lady says that’s a “canna x generalis” plant. Invasive as hell too.

33 lawhawk  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:47:03pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

Say you’re in the apartment next door minding your own business; the smell of pot is wafting through, and the cops are following the smell trail - they break into your apartment, not the guy next door.

I agree that police need to be able to deal with situations where the perp is trying to destroy evidence, but I don’t think this decision gives enough protection to the public to insure that they aren’t subject to unreasonable searches.

34 boxhead  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:50:22pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a bad decision, but it could use some refinement. Still, the idea that the cops don’t need to wait if they hear someone flushing drugs is a sound one.

IMHO, any law restricting use of pot is an abuse of government power. Cannabis is one of the most useful plants on the planet. Pure abuse of power….

35 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:50:32pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a bad decision, but it could use some refinement. Still, the idea that the cops don’t need to wait if they hear someone flushing drugs is a sound one.

it’s a terrible decision…the cops are wrong too often

36 boxhead  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:12pm

re: #35 albusteve

it’s a terrible decision…the cops are wrong too often

and very unapologetic after the fact.

37 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:51:48pm

Great news for local LA hikers. Over 100 miles of hiking trails and picnic areas have finally reopened in Angeles National Forest. Areas in Big Tujunga are still closed to “facilitate natural recovery and safety” (insert skeptical snort here). I’m an advocate of the idea that the area would recover just fine despite hikers and picnics.

You can expect me to get out with the cameras and make some Pages as soon as we get good weekend weather.

38 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:52:19pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a bad decision, but it could use some refinement. Still, the idea that the cops don’t need to wait if they hear someone flushing drugs is a sound one.

Typical statist BS. Do drugs make a distinct sound when flushed? The police made one assumption based on another assumption in a non-emergency situation, neither of which were recorded or presented forensically. Rights are worth more than this.

39 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:52:27pm

re: #31 Dark_Falcon

It’s not a bad decision, but it could use some refinement. Still, the idea that the cops don’t need to wait if they hear someone flushing drugs is a sound one.

There’s a Cheech and Chong routine in here somewhere.

40 boxhead  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:53:46pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

Great news for local LA hikers. Over 100 miles of hiking trails and picnic areas have finally reopened in Angeles National Forest. Areas in Big Tujunga are still closed to “facilitate natural recovery and safety” (insert skeptical snort here). I’m an advocate of the idea that the area would recover just fine despite hikers and picnics.

You can expect me to get out with the cameras and make some Pages as soon as we get good weekend weather.

Great! Just in time for the 70 California State Parks that are closing… :(

41 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:56:22pm

re: #40 boxhead

That little addition to registration fees was a damn good plan. Too bad it failed to pass. They shoulda closed the parks before the ballot was issued. Maybe that would have changed some minds.

42 Ojoe  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:57:40pm

Ah, the cool plants that grow in subtropical Los Angeles !

43 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 5:59:44pm

re: #42 Ojoe

Pssst. Ojoe. Take a look at your favorite web cam. Shredded clouds floating through the area.

44 wrenchwench  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:02:13pm

Later, lizards. I leave you with Mutant Pointy Boots.

45 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:10:42pm

Got memberships for the community center over the weekend, kids spent the last hour playing air hockey and ping pong and the wife and I got our first gym workout in years. We’re going to be sore in the morning.

46 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:11:52pm

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

That little addition to registration fees was a damn good plan. Too bad it failed to pass. They shoulda closed the parks before the ballot was issued. Maybe that would have changed some minds.

My computer is running slow right now. How long will the parks be closed for?

47 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:13:08pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

To be determined by the budgeteers

48 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:14:23pm

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

That little addition to registration fees was a damn good plan. Too bad it failed to pass. They shoulda closed the parks before the ballot was issued. Maybe that would have changed some minds.

People want everything. They just don’t want to pay (more) for it, even if it’s just a tiny bit in exchange for all that it has to offer.

49 Political Atheist  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:17:56pm

re: #48 Simply Sarah

Quite so. I can only recommend that people get out there and enjoy what we have and support it. I get the annual pass for Angeles forest. Thirty bucks for unlimited visits for the year. I can hike, park and camp in the truck bad anywhere up there for that tiny sum.

50 prairiefire  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:20:56pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I posted your owl and the pussycat video to my Facebook page. Folks love it.

51 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:21:05pm

re: #39 Decatur Deb

There’s a Cheech and Chong routine in here somewhere.

LOL!
Pass it over here!
///

52 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:24:58pm

re: #51 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Pass it over here!
///

Dave’s not here.

53 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:27:59pm

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

54 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:29:43pm

Good day for me today. Got a sale today that I’d been working on for almost 6 weeks. Good news on other pending deals means I’m looking at a very good sales week.

We also had funny moment at work today. A few days ago my boss had a short interview with a candidate who had come in a hour late. It was a short “just to be polite” interview, as the firm I work for doesn’t hire people who are in the habit of showing up very late without a good reason. But the goofball took offense and sent on of our HR guys an off-the-wall email. It was full of spelling errors and little punctuation, and opened with a “don’t contact me again or I’ll report you to the Better Business Bureau”. But they the guy went on to demand my boss be fired and said he should be email after that was done. He then ranted for several lines before ending with “Put that in yur pipe and smoke it!!” It was so silly and nonsensical that I can’t help wondering: Which Stalker was it? Because normally you have to go the Stalker Blog to find that sort of insanity and Butthurt.

[waves to the stalkers]

55 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:32:17pm

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

Congratulations on the sale, and avoiding a psycho!

56 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:33:33pm

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

it’s official…
I’m worried about you and your stalker complex

57 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:34:23pm

Africa
Toto live

58 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:36:07pm

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

Good day for me today. Got a sale today that I’d been working on for almost 6 weeks. Good news on other pending deals means I’m looking at a very good sales week.

We also had funny moment at work today. A few days ago my boss had a short interview with a candidate who had come in a hour late. It was a short “just to be polite” interview, as the firm I work for doesn’t hire people who are in the habit of showing up very late without a good reason. But the goofball took offense and sent on of our HR guys an off-the-wall email. It was full of spelling errors and little punctuation, and opened with a “don’t contact me again or I’ll report you to the Better Business Bureau”. But they the guy went on to demand my boss be fired and said he should be email after that was done. He then ranted for several lines before ending with “Put that in yur pipe and smoke it!!” It was so silly and nonsensical that I can’t help wondering: Which Stalker was it? Because normally you have to go the Stalker Blog to find that sort of insanity and Butthurt.

[waves to the stalkers]

I’m really hoping this was some joker right out of school or something. Whomever it was, he better adjust that attitude of his if he wants to get, well, anywhere in life.

59 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:36:11pm

re: #56 albusteve

it’s official…
I’m worried about you and your stalker complex

I’m only fooling, Steve. I wouldn’t even have brought it up except that the email the guy sent was so preposterous and asinine that it reminded me of those guys irresistibly.

60 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:36:45pm

re: #57 albusteve

Africa
Toto live

[Video]

Perhaps my favorite song as a child. Thanks.

61 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:37:34pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

Perhaps my favorite song as a child. Thanks.

As a child?
Thanks.
Now I feel old.

62 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:38:27pm

re: #61 b_sharp

As a child?
Thanks.
Now I feel old.

I was less than 6 years old when that song came out.

63 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:38:34pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

Perhaps my favorite song as a child. Thanks.

I used to dance around the room with my little baby girl to that stuff while she laughed and hugged her daddy…another reason her mother hated me

64 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:39:36pm

re: #61 b_sharp

As a child?
Thanks.
Now I feel old.

tell me about it…but it’s cool
I’ve had more than my share of adventure, and not finished yet

65 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:41:44pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

I was less than 6 years old when that song came out.

That’s nothing. I hadn’t even been born when it was released. How’s *that* for making people feel old. *ducks*

66 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:42:26pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

I was less than 6 years old when that song came out.

I was considerably older. >21 years older.

67 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:43:56pm

re: #64 albusteve

tell me about it…but it’s cool
I’ve had more than my share of adventure, and not finished yet

We’re nothing but the collected works of our memories.

My memories are mostly crap. I hope yours are better.

68 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:44:20pm

re: #65 Simply Sarah

That’s nothing. I hadn’t even been born when it was released. How’s *that* for making people feel old. *ducks*

Poo on yoo.

69 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:44:33pm

Roseanna
Toto
the end of my 2nd marriage is marked by this song
get out

70 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:44:49pm

re: #65 Simply Sarah

That’s nothing. I hadn’t even been born when it was released. How’s *that* for making people feel old. *ducks*

It’s something I’m getting used to. I’m dealing with some people who are too young to have been alive for events I remember clearly. It takes some getting used to.

71 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:45:27pm

re: #68 b_sharp

Poo on yoo.

Always glad to help!
/

72 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:45:53pm

re: #67 b_sharp

We’re nothing but the collected works of our memories.

My memories are mostly crap. I hope yours are better.

don’t say that bro…I’m really sensitive about that stuff
your time will come before the end…that’s a promise

73 Walter L. Newton  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:46:19pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

I’m only fooling, Steve. I wouldn’t even have brought it up except that the email the guy sent was so preposterous and asinine that it reminded me of those guys irresistibly.

Stalker… stalker… stalker…

74 PhillyPretzel  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:46:48pm

I am busy researching this evening because I got an automated robotic sounding call on my cell phone this afternoon. The robotic voice told me that my J P Morgan debit card is not valid and that I should press “1” to reactivate my debit card. I do not have this debit card. I called my cell phone service provider, Verizon and told them what happened. I also called LifeLock and told them about the odd call. I have searched Dogpile and Google for any phishing scams involving J P Morgan. I have not found anything so far. Has anyone here received a call like this?

75 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:47:16pm

re: #72 albusteve

don’t say that bro…I’m really sensitive about that stuff
your time will come before the end…that’s a promise

I sure hope so.

I’m getting really tired.

76 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:48:06pm

re: #69 albusteve

Roseanna
Toto
the end of my 2nd marriage is marked by this song
get out

[Video]

The one of the great ‘post breakup’ songs. A true classic. If Taylor Swift is lucky, one of her songs in this vein will be as well remembered as ‘Rosanna’.

77 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:48:18pm
78 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:49:17pm

re: #74 PhillyPretzel

I am busy researching this evening because I got an automated robotic sounding call on my cell phone this afternoon. The robotic voice told me that my J P Morgan debit card is not valid and that I should press “1” to reactivate my debit card. I do not have this debit card. I called my cell phone service provider, Verizon and told them what happened. I also called LifeLock and told them about the odd call. I have searched Dogpile and Google for any phishing scams involving J P Morgan. I have not found anything so far. Has anyone here received a call like this?

No.

I did blow off my bank three times before they convinced me they were legit to find out my card # had been stolen.

79 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:50:45pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

It’s something I’m getting used to. I’m dealing with some people who are too young to have been alive for events I remember clearly. It takes some getting used to.

I’m juuuuuuuust starting to reach that age, I think. Like, I’m just barely old enough to have been somewhat aware that the Soviet Union was falling apart and what that meant, but that’s still more than a lot of people. And I remember payphones. And before most people had heard of the Internet and before the World Wide Web even existed.

Clearly, I’m still young and with limited exposure to the world, but I’m still becoming aware that there are, in fact, people that are young enough to take for granted some things even I didn’t have as a kid. I can’t even begin to fathom what it must be like for people 10 or 20 or 30 or more years older.

80 PhillyPretzel  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:51:09pm

re: #78 b_sharp
The reason why I am asking is because both Verizon and LifeLock seem to think it is an autodialer type of call. That and I do not normally get calls like this.

81 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:51:16pm

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

Great news Dark on the sales! I got my Bonus this month..Paying off my car and some Bills tonight…But what happens if the world ends the 21st? Should I sign the checks tonight or just wait a week?
/Does it matter? hehehe

82 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:53:03pm

my daughter was 6mo old….I was playing Toto when a horrendous thunderstorm hit us…dark, windy, lightning, thunder and torrents of rain…I opened up the front of the house and grabbed my baby and went out in the front yard and danced around in the rain and thunder to Roseanna….my wife called the police…they pulled up the dark street with lights flashing, then even a second car…they wanted to bust me for something I told them to go fuck off…I may have been a bit odd but my wife was a maniac…they went inside and told her don’t do that again or they’d take legal action…I tossed her out an hour after the cops left…cost me a mint, but I didn’t care….the worst human being I ever met, right there

83 HoosierHoops  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:53:04pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

Stalker… stalker… stalker…

Wasn’t the King’s speech just awesome? A rare movie

84 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:53:08pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout

Maturity

Good find. bookmarked.

85 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:53:59pm

re: #80 PhillyPretzel

The reason why I am asking is because both Verizon and LifeLock seem to think it is an autodialer type of call. That and I do not normally get calls like this.

Checking into it is the best thing.

My dad got scammed of several thousand dollars because he was too trusting.

86 b_sharp  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:55:34pm

re: #82 albusteve

my daughter was 6mo old…I was playing Toto when a horrendous thunderstorm hit us…dark, windy, lightning, thunder and torrents of rain…I opened up the front of the house and grabbed my baby and went out in the front yard and danced around in the rain and thunder to Roseanna…my wife called the police…they pulled up the dark street with lights flashing, then even a second car…they wanted to bust me for something I told them to go fuck off…I may have been a bit odd but my wife was a maniac…they went inside and told her don’t do that again or they’d take legal action…I tossed her out an hour after the cops left…cost me a mint, but I didn’t care…the worst human being I ever met, right there

That was a brilliant memory.

87 PhillyPretzel  Mon, May 16, 2011 6:56:26pm

re: #85 b_sharp
I know. I even told a couple of co-workers not to give out any info after I got my call.

88 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:00:00pm

re: #61 b_sharp

As a child?
Thanks.
Now I feel old.

Yes, well, you are only as old as you feel!

89 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:02:24pm

re: #74 PhillyPretzel

My assumption, until Ioriginate the phone call, is phishing.
So, YOU call or visit your bank, tomorrow & get to the bottom of it!
You may need to put a “fraud alert” on your credit reports & freeze them.
Good luck!

90 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:03:13pm

re: #81 HoosierHoops

Do you need my PayPal address?
///

91 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:03:31pm

re: #86 b_sharp

That was a brilliant memory.

I was hauled off to jail, dragged into court and suffered financially because of her…I beat her ass, and her hotshit $2400 greasy lawyer in court on my own, representing myself over another domestic violence charge…my girl was 12 then and before I went in to court she gave me a teeshirt that said Worlds Greatest Dad on the front…and along the way I took down the township cops that busted me…it was all trumped up and I went for a bench trial and kicked their asses….probably my greatest personal triumph…no fear

92 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:03:59pm

re: #89 Floral Giraffe

My assumption, until Ioriginate the phone call, is phishing.
So, YOU call or visit your bank, tomorrow & get to the bottom of it!
You may need to put a “fraud alert” on your credit reports & freeze them.
Good luck!

Quite Concur! Don’t wait on that sort of stuff and never assume. Make sure you know whats going wrong. I can’t upding Floral enough for her good advice on this matter.

93 Semper Fi  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:04:13pm

re: #83 HoosierHoops

Wasn’t the King’s speech just awesome? A rare movie

I watched it and Black Swan on successive evenings. Kings Speech, I’d watch again in a minute but while Natalie Portman was wonderful in her role I’ll never watch Black Swan again.

94 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:05:13pm

re: #91 albusteve

I was hauled off to jail, dragged into court and suffered financially because of her…I beat her ass, and her hotshit $2400 greasy lawyer in court on my own, representing myself over another domestic violence charge…my girl was 12 then and before I went in to court she gave me a teeshirt that said Worlds Greatest Dad on the front…and along the way I took down the township cops that busted me…it was all trumped up and I went for a bench trial and kicked their asses…probably my greatest personal triumph…no fear

A bench trial? Wow. You *really* must have been confident. That or figured a jury would be too easily swayed.

95 PhillyPretzel  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:05:58pm

re: #89 Floral Giraffe
Thank you for the information. I have called LifeLock. If anything happens I will be notified.

96 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:11:46pm

re: #94 Simply Sarah

A bench trial? Wow. You *really* must have been confident. That or figured a jury would be too easily swayed.

Those are often the right thing for someone who might not be seen as ‘sympathetic’. In such cases, it can be better to hope (as is normally the case) that the judgement will care less about sympathy and more about what the law says.

97 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:13:05pm

re: #94 Simply Sarah

A bench trial? Wow. You *really* must have been confident. That or figured a jury would be too easily swayed.

it was faster and I was ready to go…I’ve never laid a finger on a woman, ever…it was easy for me…the police report was full of holes and I was never allowed to file my own deposition in response…a series of lies I exposed that made them all look like a bunch of amateurs…I went in with a 2in thick file of records, recorded calls, the works…and on top of it there were maybe thirty legal guys and others waiting for their hearings and they were very vocal, laughing with me and cheering me on…it was a scene I’ll never forget…I absolutely trashed my ex and her layer…it was a massacre…I brought up legal fees and the greaseball against me went pale…what a riot

98 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:13:05pm

re: #95 PhillyPretzel

Thank you for the information. I have called LifeLock. If anything happens I will be notified.

Good for you. Now, tomorrow, you call the bank, ask for the “fraud department” they’ll help!

99 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:13:13pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

Those are often the right thing for someone who might not be seen as ‘sympathetic’. In such cases, it can be better to hope (as is normally the case) that the judgement will care less about sympathy and more about what the law says.

Right. It makes sense in some situations. It’s just very much outside of the norm (And can be rather risky).

100 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:13:35pm

re: #57 albusteve

Africa
Toto live

[Video]

The most awesome Toto cover EVER

101 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:14:07pm

re: #97 albusteve

Glad you won, but that’s a very sad story.

102 PhillyPretzel  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:15:06pm

re: #98 Floral Giraffe
I will call my credit union but as I said I do not have a J P Morgan debit card.

103 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:16:23pm

re: #99 Simply Sarah

Right. It makes sense in some situations. It’s just very much outside of the norm (And can be rather risky).

risk is an afterthought with me…I defend myself regardless of the odds…maybe sounds like bravado to you but I’m a natural born brawler…bring it on, I am an army of one

104 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:16:42pm

re: #97 albusteve

it was faster and I was ready to go…I’ve never laid a finger on a woman, ever…it was easy for me…the police report was full of holes and I was never allowed to file my own deposition in response…a series of lies I exposed that made them all look like a bunch of amateurs…I went in with a 2in thick file of records, recorded calls, the works…and on top of it there were maybe thirty legal guys and others waiting for their hearings and they were very vocal, laughing with me and cheering me on…it was a scene I’ll never forget…I absolutely trashed my ex and her layer…it was a massacre…I brought up legal fees and the greaseball against me went pale…what a riot

Ah ha. Yes, I can see how a bench trial would be your choice in such a situation, then. If you had a ton of strong evidence against her word, simply presenting it to the bench would have probably been safer and faster than facing a jury.

105 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:16:59pm

re: #99 Simply Sarah

Right. It makes sense in some situations. It’s just very much outside of the norm (And can be rather risky).

When you’re in shit as deep as Steve was in, any move you make to get away clean is risky. That’s why so many people accused plead guilty, because the penalties are a good bit worse if you fight it out and lose. But Steve took a calculated risk, knowing how strong his case was, and won. That’s the mark of a true winner.

106 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:17:04pm

re: #102 PhillyPretzel

I’d still call JP Morgan & make them try to help you.
It’s a big bank, they’re used to this stuff.
You’re not.
Utilize them as a resource!
You may have a debit card, that has been sold & you didn’t realize it!
Lots of possible scenarios.

107 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:17:17pm

re: #100 Alouette

wow!…much coolness
thanks for that unusual cover

108 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:18:00pm

re: #102 PhillyPretzel

I will call my credit union but as I said I do not have a J P Morgan debit card.

Looks like a variation on this scam:

[Link: www.google.com…]

109 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:19:37pm

re: #101 Floral Giraffe

Glad you won, but that’s a very sad story.

my girl and I are extremely close…she knows how much grief I suffered at the hands of her demon mother…I lost a lot of battles along the way, but won the war…and it was as far as I was concerned…there is much more to all of this..I’m just passing along stories

110 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:19:46pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

When you’re in shit as deep as Steve was in, any move you make to get away clean is risky. That’s why so many people accused plead guilty, because the penalties are a good bit worse if you fight it out and lose. But Steve took a calculated risk, knowing how strong his case was, and won. That’s the mark of a true winner.

Yep. And that’s how the courts and prosecutors like it. Saves them time and energy. And you can’t lose a case if you never let it go to trial (OK, that’s not always true, but you know what I mean).

111 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:20:10pm

A mission of hope in an urban garden

“We eat what we get. It’s not like I can say ‘I’m going to eat something healthy,’” says Joel, a resident of a downtown Atlanta shelter.

For Joel, and other homeless people like him, having a meal does not mean choosing between an organic pear and gorgonzola salad or locally-grown arugula with artisanal cheese. Instead, food options boil down to one thing: sustenance. The food is received mostly by donation, which means it’s often cheap, non-perishable, and generally less than healthy.

However, one Atlanta nonprofit, the Atlanta Mission, has recently taken the term “community garden” to a new level by adapting a vacant lot in the downtown area and transforming it into a garden filled with raised vegetable beds. It’s tended daily by the very men who inhabit the shelter and whose bounty will benefit the shelter’s kitchen.

This plot is manned by the most unassuming and unlikely gardeners. Ty, a former gang member with tattoos on his face, and Joel, a recovering addict, spend half their day pulling weeds, watering and pruning the multiple-bed garden in hopes that they’ll be able to harvest a successful bounty of fresh produce by the end of the season.

112 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:20:59pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

Looks like a variation on this scam:

[Link: www.google.com…]

More clearly listed in this Credit Union alert:

[Link: sentinelfcu.org…]

113 PhillyPretzel  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:22:25pm

re: #106 Floral Giraffe
I do not think so. I have not applied for any credit card in the past 5 years. I am in Chapter 13 bankruptcy. I do not have any credit.

114 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:23:03pm

re: #111 Killgore Trout

A mission of hope in an urban garden

Growing food is hard but honest work. Hopefully those doing it at Atlanta Mission will profit from the experience.

115 Semper Fi  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:23:59pm

Close enough to 7:30P so will close off for today but tomorrow, I’ll give LifeLock a call. Thanks lizards.

116 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:24:40pm

re: #111 Killgore Trout

A mission of hope in an urban garden

They tried something like that in Detroit with all the abandoned lots and properties, thought they could do some urban farming. Very sad to say, the soil was so contaminated with industrial waste that nothing would grow unless the soil was replaced all the way down several feet.

117 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:26:54pm

re: #110 Simply Sarah

Yep. And that’s how the courts and prosecutors like it. Saves them time and energy. And you can’t lose a case if you never let it go to trial (OK, that’s not always true, but you know what I mean).

the judge got really frusrtated with my behavior, striking the record and threatening me with contempt…finally I looked him in the eye and told him, under the circumstances, and what I’d been through for over a year I really didn’t give a shit about his contempt…I was there to defend myself and he better let me do it, considering I’m an amateur facing a slick lawyer no less than Perry Mason himself…the place went nuts

118 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:30:20pm

re: #117 albusteve

It sounds like you did what you needed to do, to get the job done.
Congratulations.

119 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:31:05pm

re: #118 Floral Giraffe

It sounds like you did what you needed to do, to get the job done.
Congratulations.

eh…anybody would have done the same

120 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:31:51pm

re: #119 albusteve

No, that’s not true. You did a good job for your kids.
Own it.

121 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:32:19pm

dad’s get trashed…the system is slanted against them

122 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:32:41pm

re: #119 albusteve

eh…anybody would have done the same

No, most people would have hired a lawyer or plead guilty if they could not. You refused to give in to fear, and that makes you great.

123 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:33:21pm

re: #117 albusteve

the judge got really frusrtated with my behavior, striking the record and threatening me with contempt…finally I looked him in the eye and told him, under the circumstances, and what I’d been through for over a year I really didn’t give a shit about his contempt…I was there to defend myself and he better let me do it, considering I’m an amateur facing a slick lawyer no less than Perry Mason himself…the place went nuts

You must have scared or startled the hell out of him, I’ll give you that. Most judges I’ve seen or heard of would have taken none too kindly to that sort of thing and it probably would have ended badly for you. Granted, if you were in the right he would have probably been limited in what he could do, since a lot of the tactics a judge can pull in that situation depend on the target not been all that determined or, you know, belonging to a bar that they needed to worry about standing in.

124 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:34:04pm

re: #116 Alouette

They tried something like that in Detroit with all the abandoned lots and properties, thought they could do some urban farming. Very sad to say, the soil was so contaminated with industrial waste that nothing would grow unless the soil was replaced all the way down several feet.

These Catholic Commies have been at it for 75 years, but usually move the workers out of the cities to cheaper land:

[Link: farm.catholicworker.biz…]

125 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:36:27pm

re: #124 Decatur Deb

These Catholic Commies have been at it for 75 years, but usually move the workers out of the cities to cheaper land:

[Link: farm.catholicworker.biz…]

I just Googled “Detroit urban farming.” Lots of proposals and some photos of seedlings in flats and in greenhouses, but no actual harvests. Sad.

They would have to haul in tons and tons of dirt, maybe from Canada.

126 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:37:00pm

re: #120 Floral Giraffe

No, that’s not true. You did a good job for your kids.
Own it.

re: #123 Simply Sarah

You must have scared or startled the hell out of him, I’ll give you that. Most judges I’ve seen or heard of would have taken none too kindly to that sort of thing and it probably would have ended badly for you. Granted, if you were in the right he would have probably been limited in what he could do, since a lot of the tactics a judge can pull in that situation depend on the target not been all that determined or, you know, belonging to a bar that they needed to worry about standing in.

I apologized for being ignorant of courtroom protocol and asked if there was some other way I was supposed to present myself, a manual or vid I should watch?…heh…he had to rule for me regardless

127 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:38:21pm

re: #123 Simply Sarah

Pics or it didn’t happen!

128 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:40:22pm

re: #125 Alouette

I just Googled “Detroit urban farming.” Lots of proposals and some photos of seedlings in flats and in greenhouses, but no actual harvests. Sad.

They would have to haul in tons and tons of dirt, maybe from Canada.

Yeah—lots of traps in community gardening. There are even strategies for recouping the efforts of the over-enthusiastic.

[Link: www.google.com…]

129 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:41:32pm

re: #128 Decatur Deb

I drive by some community gardens every day… for the life of me I can’t tell if they ever get anything out of them or not ><

130 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:42:11pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

No, most people would have hired a lawyer or plead guilty if they could not. You refused to give in to fear, and that makes you great.

that’s just way too generous…gimme a break bro

131 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:44:25pm

re: #129 windsagio

I drive by some community gardens every day… for the life of me I can’t tell if they ever get anything out of them or not ><

I’ve seen some in Chicago. Being as it’s Illinois, the bigger ones often grow corn. And yes, I’ve seen corn in those gardens as high as a elephants eye.

132 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:45:33pm

two pals
Taj Mahal and Bonnie Raitt
live

133 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:47:26pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

I’m glad to know! the one by my house always looks like This. (forward and backward for other shots, in general pretty scrubby)

134 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:48:45pm

re: #129 windsagio

I drive by some community gardens every day… for the life of me I can’t tell if they ever get anything out of them or not ><

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

I’ve seen some in Chicago. Being as it’s Illinois, the bigger ones often grow corn. And yes, I’ve seen corn in those gardens as high as a elephants eye.

There are sucesses, but the failures seem due to organizational flaws more than lack of horticulture expertise. (My non-community garden is producing enough to set me to ‘foisting’ squash and cucumbers up and down the street. One was 32.2 oz.)

135 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:48:50pm

re: #133 windsagio

I’m glad to know! the one by my house always looks like This. (forward and backward for other shots, in general pretty scrubby)

Needs. Weeding.

136 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:49:21pm

re: #135 EmmmieG

Needs. Weeding.

You volunteering?
//

137 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:50:04pm

re: #136 Floral Giraffe

You volunteering?
//

No. I do my own weeding. Except when I use my child slave labor to do it.

138 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:50:15pm

pulling weeds is good for the soul…if we have one

139 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:50:32pm

re: #111 Killgore Trout

That’s a neat story.

I’ve wondered if our society isn’t really needing a revival of, for lack of better terms, monasteries. With so many homeless men - young, middle age, and especially older - something needs to be done. I fear we’ll see more and more of these types as American wealth slowly gets frittered away (either through continued huge trade imbalances, super-expensive wars, etc.) and our “growth engine” stalls.

There’s a lot to be said for a local group that puts idle mens’ hands to work to feed themselves. Here in San Diego we do have lots of homeless as it rarely freezes and rain is uncommon. There is a huge Catholic organization that runs shelters, and some smaller organizations, but still it seems like something more productive and meaningful could be done with these guys than just have them hang around a building for a few hours waiting for a free meal.

What’s double sad is that San Diego is one of the few areas where one can garden year round and get food 12 months of the year, but so many of the younger people are uninterested in growing food. In the old days when people bought houses here they’d plant at least one lemon, orange, or avocado tree. But when I look at the urban and suburban development here the last 2 or 3 decades it seems like plots now only have carefree ornamentals, as if people just don’t have time garden. Yes, there are the obvious exceptions - there’s local clubs/groups that specialize in bananas and figs and so on - there are always (fortunately) the die hard gardeners.

Anyway, long rant, but I really do believe that a return to the land so to speak would help address several ills our society is manifesting.

140 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:51:09pm

re: #135 EmmmieG

See? I know right?!

141 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:51:23pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

No. I do my own weeding. Except when I use my child slave labor to do it.

God made the little urchins close-to-the-ground for a reason.

142 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:51:40pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

No. I do my own weeding. Except when I use my child slave labor to do it.

I wore out my bullwhip keeping my garden cleaned up

143 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:52:13pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

No, most people would have hired a lawyer or plead guilty if they could not. You refused to give in to fear, and that makes you great.

I had a young friend who got caught up with some bad friends and was looking at a long vacation in an unpleasant place. I popped for a real lawyer for her and she ended up with a bit of probation (with record wiping if she stayed good) instead. Today she makes a decent living and is a good mother to her son. Neither would be the case 90% of the time when our system is allowed to run unimpeded. Steve did what he had to; I did what I could - that’s the only way the system can be made to work if you aren’t stinking rich.

144 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:52:31pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

also; you just gave me a flashback. Weeding is the most brutal thing ever on a beautiful afternoon (if you’re 8 years old :p)

145 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:54:28pm

re: #137 EmmmieG

No. I do my own weeding. Except when I use my child slave labor to do it.

Child slave labor is the BEST! Sister has 4, they work for $0.25 an hour & think it’s a great deal! SHHH, it’s our secret!

146 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:55:24pm

re: #145 Floral Giraffe

they get paid?!

147 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:55:45pm

re: #146 windsagio

they get paid?!

In CASH, no less!

148 Lidane  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:55:57pm

All this talk of gardening is bringing back memories of being child slave labor at home when I was growing up. I earned my allowance by mowing the lawn and doing all the yardwork.

Whenever I get a house, I’m paying someone else to deal with it all. Gardening is evil. Bleah.

149 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:56:46pm

re: #143 wlewisiii

I had a young friend who got caught up with some bad friends and was looking at a long vacation in an unpleasant place. I popped for a real lawyer for her and she ended up with a bit of probation (with record wiping if she stayed good) instead. Today she makes a decent living and is a good mother to her son. Neither would be the case 90% of the time when our system is allowed to run unimpeded. Steve did what he had to; I did what I could - that’s the only way the system can be made to work if you aren’t stinking rich.

It’s having a good lawyer that’s the key. Once prosecutors know they’ve got a fight on their hands, they tend to become less belligerent.

150 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:56:48pm

re: #148 Lidane

After my own heart!!!
re: #147 Floral Giraffe


And kids these days. Spoiled little brats >>

151 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:56:52pm

re: #145 Floral Giraffe

Child slave labor is the BEST! Sister has 4, they work for $0.25 an hour & think it’s a great deal! SHHH, it’s our secret!

Yeah, but then you have to factor in the costs of feeding sheltering the little workers. Plus the several years of getting each one of them in shape to actually be able to do any work…They’re not that they’re cracked up to be!

152 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:56:59pm

re: #148 Lidane

Yes, but really bad gardeners, are almost worse than having to do it yourself!
Almost, but not quite!
ELITIST!
///

153 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:57:10pm

re: #143 wlewisiii

you know…we submit to the system, we allow the system, we can’t avoid the system, it’s there to ensure everybody is heard…we are all part of it…WE are the system…US…me…that’s how I look at it

154 PhillyPretzel  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:57:12pm

Thank you to Floral and others for all of the advice. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

155 Lidane  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:57:50pm

re: #152 Floral Giraffe

Yes, but really bad gardeners, are almost worse than having to do it yourself!
Almost, but not quite!
ELITIST!
///

If that happens, I’ll just install a Zen rock garden. Problem solved! ;)

156 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:57:55pm

re: #154 PhillyPretzel

You’re welcome. Sleep tight & have great follow through, to protect yourself!

157 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:58:12pm

re: #139 freetoken

That’s a neat story.

I’ve wondered if our society isn’t really needing a revival of, for lack of better terms, monasteries. With so many homeless men - young, middle age, and especially older - something needs to be done. I fear we’ll see more and more of these types as American wealth slowly gets frittered away (either through continued huge trade imbalances, super-expensive wars, etc.) and our “growth engine” stalls.

There’s a lot to be said for a local group that puts idle mens’ hands to work to feed themselves. Here in San Diego we do have lots of homeless as it rarely freezes and rain is uncommon. There is a huge Catholic organization that runs shelters, and some smaller organizations, but still it seems like something more productive and meaningful could be done with these guys than just have them hang around a building for a few hours waiting for a free meal.

What’s double sad is that San Diego is one of the few areas where one can garden year round and get food 12 months of the year, but so many of the younger people are uninterested in growing food. In the old days when people bought houses here they’d plant at least one lemon, orange, or avocado tree. But when I look at the urban and suburban development here the last 2 or 3 decades it seems like plots now only have carefree ornamentals, as if people just don’t have time garden. Yes, there are the obvious exceptions - there’s local clubs/groups that specialize in bananas and figs and so on - there are always (fortunately) the die hard gardeners.

Anyway, long rant, but I really do believe that a return to the land so to speak would help address several ills our society is manifesting.

You, Tolstoy, and Peter Maurin. But it takes an overriding ideology, or theology, to make it trans-generational.

[Link: www.google.com…]

158 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 7:58:23pm

re: #145 Floral Giraffe

Child slave labor is the BEST! Sister has 4, they work for $0.25 an hour & think it’s a great deal! SHHH, it’s our secret!

an afternoon at the amusement park is worth several long months of payback….my kids loved me

159 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:00:12pm

re: #157 Decatur Deb

It also takes a big commitment to make it work.
Great ideas, here.

160 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:01:50pm

re: #159 Floral Giraffe

It also takes a big commitment to make it work.
Great ideas, here.

Unless Ludwig’s best-case AGW outcomes put us all back to the soil in a Mad Max sort of way.

161 darthstar  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:02:01pm

Iowa’s governor is fearing his state isn’t cashing in on it’s “first in nation” status, in part, due to the fact that the Republicans have no serious candidates and the Democrats won’t even have a primary race…so their only real attraction is their whopping seven electoral votes for the general…

Several 2012 campaigns have shied away from Iowa so far, worrying that only a Mike Huckabee-like candidate who caters to hardcore social conservative activists can win.

But Branstad challenged White House hopefuls to “come here” and campaign, declaring that Iowa Republicans want a nominee who “focuses on cleaning up the financial mess that we have in Washington” and “somebody that focuses on jobs and revitalizing the private sector.”

…snip…

Iowa Republicans didn’t set out to marginalize themselves, but it’s happened — to New Hampshire’s benefit,” Cullen crowed. “With several major candidates likely to bypass Iowa, and the odds rising that Iowa’s skewed caucus electorate could support candidates with limited general election appeal, the likelihood of New Hampshire being called upon to make a correction grow.”

Read more: [Link: www.politico.com…]


Please, come…bring your entourage, and the media…we need the revenue.

162 Ojoe  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:02:57pm

Hey FBV here it is

The Gloaming.


(the Towercam, San Gabriel Mountains of California.)

163 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:04:07pm

re: #161 darthstar

Iowa’s governor is fearing his state isn’t cashing in on it’s “first in nation” status, in part, due to the fact that the Republicans have no serious candidates and the Democrats won’t even have a primary race…so their only real attraction is their whopping seven electoral votes for the general…


Please, come…bring your entourage, and the media…we need the revenue.

Actually, avoiding Iowa makes sense. New Hampshire is a state where the gOP isn’t run by wingnuts, so showcasing yourself there is better for a candidate’s general election appeal.

164 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:05:28pm

re: #161 darthstar

We need to seriously seriously seriously standardize the primary system.

165 Simply Sarah  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:05:32pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

Actually, avoiding Iowa makes sense. New Hampshire is a state where the gOP isn’t run by wingnuts, so showcasing yourself there is better for a candidate’s general election appeal.

Well, the actual GOP there is still run by wingnuts. It’s just that the electorate itself is more in line with national Republican views.

166 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:05:36pm

my parting shot
anybody that don’t groove with Taj is unenlightened
do yourself a favor and listen to our treasure…he does it for you

167 Lidane  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:06:42pm
168 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:06:42pm

re: #139 freetoken

Just so I’m not always plugging the Catholic Worker hippies, here is a Protestant kibbutz I’ve visited in GA. It is the seedbed of Habitat for Humanity.

[Link: www.google.com…]

169 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:07:57pm

re: #167 Lidane

LOL Luap Nor:

Ron Paul’s Latest Government Bugaboo: Mississippi Flood Control

Government intervention! Those people should have been allowed the freedom to be flooded according to God’s plan.

170 Lidane  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:10:28pm
171 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:10:51pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Two men enter, one man leaves!
CAGE MATCH!

172 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:11:54pm

re: #170 Lidane

LOL,
Mark Sanford is so toasted, why is he bothering?

173 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:14:12pm

Does this sound fake to anybody else? Anybody familiar with “Die Welt”?

“‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela”
[Link: www.jpost.com…]

174 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:16:36pm

re: #173 ElCapitanAmerica

Conservative German Newspaper. Pretty big, but it’s no Der Spiegel.

175 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:16:58pm

re: #173 ElCapitanAmerica

Does this sound fake to anybody else? Anybody familiar with “Die Welt”?

“‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela”
[Link: www.jpost.com…]

cheezy conspiricy blab…next thing you know, someone will be talking about Hez or anybody else that crosses our borders…terrorists south of the border?….conspiracy theory!

176 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:17:23pm

re: #164 windsagio

We need to seriously seriously seriously standardize the primary system.

1 single primary day, nation wide. All partys at the same time, 6 weeks prior to the general election in November would be my preference but I doubt we could get that lucky.

But a fellow can dream …

177 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:18:49pm

re: #175 albusteve

cheezy conspiricy blab…next thing you know, someone will be talking about Hez or anybody else that crosses our borders…terrorists south of the border?…conspiracy theory!

Story is self-contradicting: ‘intermediate-range rockets’ to prevent ‘air attacks’.

178 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:18:50pm

re: #167 Lidane

LOL Luap Nor:

Ron Paul’s Latest Government Bugaboo: Mississippi Flood Control

That’s so dumb it’ll cost him votes even among wingnuts. Protecting the public is Job One for government, and that this can extend to flood control seems quite appropriate to me.

179 Kid A  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:18:52pm

Glad to see that Charles is posting photos again. It’s been a while. Trade in your Nikon, Charles, and go Canon. Also, Canon has a 100mm macro for less than $400 which would be even tighter for these close shots that you like.

180 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:18:54pm

re: #176 wlewisiii

1 single primary day, nation wide. All partys at the same time, 6 weeks prior to the general election in November would be my preference but I doubt we could get that lucky.

But a fellow can dream …

But, but, then a little state couldn’t reap all of those advertising dollars!
//sorta

181 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:19:36pm

re: #139 freetoken

I’m not sure if the idea will catch on but I think it’s worth revival. There’s nothing more primal than providing your own food. Especially here in America the average home owner has a huge yard filled with useless grass in some bizarre and lame imitation of English estates. It’s well past time to put that tradition to rest.

182 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:20:12pm

re: #180 Floral Giraffe

Not to mention losing that massive undue influence!

183 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:20:23pm

interrogation…
how did you get to Los Angeles, you killer terrorist?
I swim from Tahiti, infidel

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:21:02pm

I found a tick on me today. I’ve had the heebie jeebies ever since.

Probably off of that damn plant in Charles’ picture.

185 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:21:42pm

re: #173 ElCapitanAmerica

Does this sound fake to anybody else? Anybody familiar with “Die Welt”?

“‘Die Welt’: Iran building rocket bases in Venezuela”
[Link: www.jpost.com…]

Let ‘em build. Our new THAAD ABMs can knock down anything Iran can build. Our defenses are strong, we need not fear Chavez.

186 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:22:44pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

Story is self-contradicting: ‘intermediate-range rockets’ to prevent ‘air attacks’.

who knows?…but I consider those noodles the real deal…I’d not be surprised to stumble into another Cuban Missile gig…

187 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:23:07pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

All you have to do, is grow some strawberries & tomatoes of your own. Share with friends. It spreads like wildfire. Strawberries & tomatoes have been line bred for characteristics that allow them to pack & ship well. The most flavor full, are the most fragile. Rant now off.

188 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:24:22pm

I’m trying to dig up that Die Welt story to read myself (see if it was a translation prob), my comp doesn’t like Jpost for some reaosn so I have to search :p

189 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:24:50pm

‘Nite, all.

190 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:27:58pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

… here in America the average home owner has a huge yard filled with useless grass in some bizarre and lame imitation of English estates. It’s well past time to put that tradition to rest.

I never planted any yard here in San Diego and my old front yard was totally planted in flowering ornamentals or fruit. The back was mostly hillside and I let it go with the original natural planting (no watering, all drought resistant), which included wild rye grass which I chopped downed once a year at the end of summer to keep it from being a fire hazard.

It really ought to be discouraged to have a lawn here in San Diego. It’s such a waste of water which is and will be increasingly fought over in years to come. When the day comes (and it will) when Lake Mead falls below the level where water can be drawn (which might happen by the end of this year) for LV, or when the water gets even lower and the turbines stop in the dam - on that day people here in the SW will learn how valuable water really is.

191 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:29:40pm

re: #190 freetoken

In vegas they actually already give you huge incentives to replace a grass lawn with a native-plant or rock deal. They all but pay you for it.

192 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:31:38pm

re: #190 freetoken

nuclear desalination…just think of all the tomatoes

193 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:32:59pm

re: #173 ElCapitanAmerica

Chavez might do it just to mess with Colombia.

194 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:33:30pm

re: #192 albusteve

nuclear desalination…just think of all the tomatoes

One Ton Tomatos

[Link: www.google.com…]

195 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:34:16pm

re: #194 Decatur Deb

One Ton Tomatos

[Link: www.google.com…]

it’s true then

196 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:38:08pm

re: #190 freetoken

When water is expensive, we will use less of it. It’s REALLY cheap in So. Cal right now. I’m paying 3.48 for one CCF ( a hundred cubic feet) around 748 gallons.

197 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:39:57pm

take CA…
a huge, formerly filthy rich state, chock full of every resource imaginable…home to several outstanding technical science schools…world class agribusiness, all that and more…but yet they have to buy water from the lowly CO River via this multi billion dollar, epic system of diversion…all at the expense of CO, NM, and AZ…so that they can feed their golf courses and fake waterfalls in south CA…wtf?…why doesn’t CA led the world in desal technology?….why don’t we solve our problems with what we have to work with right now?

198 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:40:04pm

re: #194 Decatur Deb

199 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:40:16pm

re: #179 Kid A

Glad to see that Charles is posting photos again. It’s been a while. Trade in your Nikon, Charles, and go Canon. Also, Canon has a 100mm macro for less than $400 which would be even tighter for these close shots that you like.

Meh. Go old school - get a nice Nikon F2, some Pre-AI glass & some Ektar 100, some Plus-X & some Tri-X. Much more fun than any digital anyone has yet made ;)

200 freetoken  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:44:43pm

re: #197 albusteve

We get less than 10% of our water here from the Colorado river. However, the agriculture in Imperial county is totally dependent upon it, as well as the Mexican farmers right across the border.

The big drain on the Colorado is Las Vegas and surrounding areas. When the water allocation of the Colorado R. was made among the states the basis used for run-off used abnormally wet years (which we now know in hindsight), so the allocation even before the boom in LV was going to be hard to meet. Then, add a million people in the middle of nowhere (LV) with no other source of water (the local springs are too small to support very many people) and we get the problem we have today.

201 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:45:30pm

re: #197 albusteve

sadly, for the same reasons we don’t have a good electric car still. Its cheaper to just ship it in than to develop a sustainable resource.

Whats more messed up is that with the Colorado river starting to have problems, their solution is to try to get WA and OR to ship them water from the Columbia rather than work on a permanent fix.

202 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:46:28pm

Oh, heck.
We’ll send y’all some water.

203 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:47:04pm

re: #193 jaunte

Chavez might do it just to mess with Colombia.

We should let him know that if he fires a missile like that at Columbia, then we’ll waste his miserable ass.

204 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:47:22pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

It’s the uphill pumping that gets expensive.

205 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:47:50pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

Oh, heck.
We’ll send y’all some water.

LOL!
*waves*

206 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:48:38pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

I wonder if it’s these missiles: [Link: devilsexcrement.com…]

207 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:48:51pm

re: #200 freetoken

We get less than 10% of our water here from the Colorado river. However, the agriculture in Imperial county is totally dependent upon it, as well as the Mexican farmers right across the border.

The big drain on the Colorado is Las Vegas and surrounding areas. When the water allocation of the Colorado R. was made among the states the basis used for run-off used abnormally wet years (which we now know in hindsight), so the allocation even before the boom in LV was going to be hard to meet. Then, add a million people in the middle of nowhere (LV) with no other source of water (the local springs are too small to support very many people) and we get the problem we have today.

I picked on CA for a reason…but if you’ve ever seen Yuma, you have to ask yourself, how is this possible?…and it comes from the CO…as for Vegas, they are even more sureal…Lake Meade will keep them in water eh?….mooches, all of them, but CA has a damned ocean right there to use

208 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:49:57pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

Oh, heck.
We’ll send y’all some water.

how generous!

209 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:50:51pm

re: #188 windsagio

This is the original article;
[Link: www.welt.de…]

The article is already being used to say that president Obama is weak on Iran because he’s letting them build missile bases in our continent.

Again, I’m really skeptical of this story, the only source is this German paper and I have yet to see anything about this in the Venezuelan and Colombian news that I usually read.

210 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:51:22pm

re: #207 albusteve

I picked on CA for a reason…but if you’ve ever seen Yuma, you have to ask yourself, how is this possible?…and it comes from the CO…as for Vegas, they are even more sureal…Lake Meade will keep them in water eh?…mooches, all of them, but CA has a damned ocean right there to use

And environmentalists protesting every project.

211 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:52:50pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

finally finally found the story lol Iranische Raketenbasis in Venezuela in Planungsphase

Its not terribly convincing as a story, if I’m reading it right.

212 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:52:54pm

re: #210 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And environmentalists protesting every project.

yeah, a nickle holding up a dollar

213 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:53:37pm

re: #209 ElCapitanAmerica

214 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:53:43pm

re: #211 windsagio

“in Planungsphase” is fairly vague.

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:54:13pm

re: #188 windsagio

I’m trying to dig up that Die Welt story to read myself (see if it was a translation prob), my comp doesn’t like Jpost for some reaosn so I have to search :p

JPost has these weird ads that occasionally foil my attempts to get through to the content.

216 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:54:29pm

re: #214 jaunte

per the article they made a secret deal that only Die Welt reported back in October. That’s a pretty big tip to me that there’s something off with the story.

217 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:54:41pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

JPost has these weird ads that occasionally foil my attempts to get through to the content.

EXACTLY!

218 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:54:57pm

re: #207 albusteve

Um, the ocean is salty. ..

219 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:55:53pm

re: #218 Floral Giraffe

Um, the ocean is salty. ..

yes it is…gotta do something about that

220 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:56:42pm
221 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:56:47pm

re: #206 jaunte

I wonder if it’s these missiles: [Link: devilsexcrement.com…]

The Spanish language article that page links to calls the missiles “Igla”s. That’s Russian for “little guy”, it refers to man portable SAMs. Those are not offensive systems, though they can be used by terrorists. But even they mostly use such missiles in an air defense role.

222 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:56:49pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

Oh, heck.
We’ll send y’all some water.

Was talking to someone about Jordan and Israel’s ‘Peace Canal’ project—bringing water from the Red Sea to raise the the level in the Dead.

Problem is that the Jordan is being so heavily used that enough water to maintain the Dead Sea no longer gets to the end of the line.

My friend’s suggestion was to see if we could pipe in water from the Mississippi ‘because they’d love to get rid of some of theirs!’

223 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:57:11pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

We should let him know that if he fires a missile like that at Columbia, then we’ll waste his miserable ass.

I’m pretty sure someone has already had that conversation with Mr. Chavez.

224 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:57:36pm

Southern California Considers Financing Mexico Desalinization Plant

California, Arizona, and Nevada have been speaking with Mexican government officials about sharing a desalinization plant in the neighboring country, but it is the San Diego County Water Authority and Metropolitan Water District of Southern California that have pursued the possibility.

The desalinization plant would be located just south of San Diego in Mexico’s Rosarito Beach, and construction could begin in just two years. The plant would produce up to 75 million gallons of fresh water a day, which is 50 percent more than the biggest facility planned for California. The plant planned for California has been delayed due to lawsuits and permitting for well over a decade. It is intended for Carlsbad in San Diego County.

225 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:58:21pm

re: #209 ElCapitanAmerica

This is the original article;
[Link: www.welt.de…]

The article is already being used to say that president Obama is weak on Iran because he’s letting them build missile bases in our continent.

Again, I’m really skeptical of this story, the only source is this German paper and I have yet to see anything about this in the Venezuelan and Colombian news that I usually read.

A lot of the Anglim who read the JPost have some serious bad cases of ODS going on.

226 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:58:31pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

JPost has these weird ads that occasionally foil my attempts to get through to the content.

I’ve gotten so aggravated with those ads, I’m about to take them out of my bookmarks and off my twitter feed.

227 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:58:42pm

re: #215 SanFranciscoZionist

If you exit & re-enter the link, the annoying ads don’t re-appear.
At least, for me!

228 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 8:59:39pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

Was talking to someone about Jordan and Israel’s ‘Peace Canal’ project—bringing water from the Red Sea to raise the the level in the Dead.

Problem is that the Jordan is being so heavily used that enough water to maintain the Dead Sea no longer gets to the end of the line.

My friend’s suggestion was to see if we could pipe in water from the Mississippi ‘because they’d love to get rid of some of theirs!’

desalination is not complicated, but it takes a shit load of energy, that’s precisely what the Hyperion system was designed for…the time will come when nuclear power is accepted…either that or die of thirst

229 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:01:21pm

re: #225 SanFranciscoZionist

A lot of the Anglim who read the JPost have some serious bad cases of ODS going on.

I myself, of course, am an Anglit who reads the JPost and has no such problem.

230 albusteve  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:01:22pm

re: #224 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

how nice of us

231 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:02:16pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

I’m not sure if the idea will catch on but I think it’s worth revival. There’s nothing more primal than providing your own food. Especially here in America the average home owner has a huge yard filled with useless grass in some bizarre and lame imitation of English estates. It’s well past time to put that tradition to rest.

The grass is fun to play on as a kid, but beyond that…

In my neck of CA, water is always an issue, especially for farming. The county has even been installing water meters in certain neighborhoods. Right now they just serve as monitors to collect data on usage, but there is little doubt that in the future they will be employed to institute rationing and charge usage fees.

Nearly half the year here, the temps are such that it would be far more practical to use cacti and the like for personal gardens. But folk do so love their flowers and lawns.

232 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:02:53pm

re: #226 reine.de.tout


Something that intrusive is an automatic no-go for me. Can barely tolerate the LGF ads >>

233 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:03:50pm

re: #232 windsagio

Should I do another LGF subscription commercial?

234 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:04:24pm

re: #233 jaunte

anybody that was gonna pay is ;)

235 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:04:43pm

re: #233 jaunte

You know for PENNIES a day, you can enjoy LGF ad free!
(How’d I do?)

236 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:06:05pm

re: #235 Floral Giraffe

Just ONE TENTH the price of a Starbucks Grande per day!

237 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:10:15pm

re: #200 freetoken

Then, add a million people in the middle of nowhere (LV) with no other source of water (the local springs are too small to support very many people) and we get the problem we have today.

Hahaha! Going off on a tangent here…

Back when Katrina struck and all shit went to hell in NOLA, a relative of mine was ticked that people would even consider rebuilding that place. A waste of tax dollars and what not. It was originally under the sea level, why not just leave it there?

I asked what we would do with all the people that once lived there, where would they go?

Why, Nevada of course. There’s all kinds of miles of unused, undeveloped, uninhabited land there. I patiently assured that relative of mine there was a reason for that.

238 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:14:44pm

re: #237 Slumbering Behemoth

Nevada is kind of ground zero for mortgage defaults these days..
[Link: foreclosurenv.wordpress.com…]

239 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:16:54pm

re: #238 Floral Giraffe

Nevada is kind of ground zero for mortgage defaults these days..
[Link: foreclosurenv.wordpress.com…]

Not a surprise. The prices rose faster there than anywhere else. They had nowhere to go but down, and very far down. Clark County has taken the recession on the chin and will be a long time recovering. And I’m betting that the recovery will only be partial.

240 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:19:47pm

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

Not a surprise. The prices rose faster there than anywhere else. They had nowhere to go but down, and very far down. Clark County has taken the recession on the chin and will be a long time recovering. And I’m betting that the recovery will only be partial.

I keep hoping that I’ll live long enough to see Lost Wages collapse down to a 3 digit population. Given the realities of water, these days, I expect that to be easier than I used to.

241 Kronocide  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:21:15pm
242 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:23:24pm

re: #241 BigPapa

What is the Internet hiding?

Porn. Next question.

243 tnguitarist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:24:04pm

I apologize if I clicked on anything crazy. I was trying to navigate this page on my droid.

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:25:36pm

Wingnut Jews are a special kind of crazy, y’all.

245 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:25:44pm

re: #241 BigPapa

Nekkid ladies, that want nothing more than your wallet.
Next?

246 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:26:13pm

re: #238 Floral Giraffe

During the whole housing boom/bust, they were experiencing a greater boom period of new construction than most other places. No surprise their bust is greater as well.

Plus, desert life is a wicked bitch. If you ain’t ready for it, you just shouldn’t go there.

Heh. Did I ever tell you about the time I walked off the highway and into the desert a stretch, to drink the last of the warm beer and stare at stars unimpeded by city lights? I spent several hours out there, and watched one of the most beautiful sunrises I’ve ever seen.

When the sun got just high enough, I could see that I had been surrounded by a ton of these all that time. Heh, I was even sitting on one.

247 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:26:29pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

Really? I thought Wingnuts was wingnutz.

248 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:27:07pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ur doin it rong.

249 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:27:11pm

re: #241 BigPapa

Balkanization.
“The Internet is showing us what it thinks we want to see…”

250 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:28:12pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

Wingnut Jews are a special kind of crazy, y’all.

OK, I’ll bite; What happened?

251 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:28:25pm

re: #246 Slumbering Behemoth

Better spiders than Cholla.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]
“Jumping cactus”

252 sagehen  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:29:11pm

This picture has a very Georgia O’Keefe vibe…

253 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:30:13pm

re: #251 Floral Giraffe

Oh, you’re damn right! Tarantulas are friggin’ cuddly little sweet hearts compared to plants like that.

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:31:18pm

There are three memorials to fallen U.S. chaplains in Arlington. One from 1926, and two done in the 80s, one Protestant and one Catholic. There’s a move on now to get one put up for the Jewish chaplains. Apparently Congress is not moving their ass sufficiently fast on this—people hoped to get ‘er approved by Memorial Day.

I am now dealing with a guy online who appears to believe that the government pays for these things, as well as approving them for installation in Arlington. He also wants to know who was ‘the political party in control when the other chaplains got a monument’.

That would be Coolidge, Reagan and GHW Bush’s terms, but damned if I can figure out what his angle is here.

(This is a group that’s very pissed off about liberal Jews.)

255 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:31:31pm

re: #249 jaunte

Balkanization.
“The Internet is showing us what it thinks we want to see…”

Hal, is that you?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Dave wouldn’t want you to do that…

256 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:31:57pm

re: #253 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, you’re damn right! Tarantulas are friggin’ cuddly little sweet hearts compared to plants like that.

Pliers, keep them in the glove box, with leather gloves!

257 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:33:05pm

re: #241 BigPapa

What is the Internet hiding?

[Link: www.amazon.com…]
His book cover reminds me of Austin Kleon’s poems:
[Link: www.austinkleon.com…]

258 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:35:32pm

re: #252 sagehen

I’d say that you were engaging in a bit of desperate confirmation bias, likely due to a complete lack of quality pornography.
/kidding

259 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:36:26pm

re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist

There are three memorials to fallen U.S. chaplains in Arlington. One from 1926, and two done in the 80s, one Protestant and one Catholic. There’s a move on now to get one put up for the Jewish chaplains. Apparently Congress is not moving their ass sufficiently fast on this—people hoped to get ‘er approved by Memorial Day.

I am now dealing with a guy online who appears to believe that the government pays for these things, as well as approving them for installation in Arlington. He also wants to know who was ‘the political party in control when the other chaplains got a monument’.

That would be Coolidge, Reagan and GHW Bush’s terms, but damned if I can figure out what his angle is here.

(This is a group that’s very pissed off about liberal Jews.)

I have not been following the whole thing, but suspect that part of what may be slowing things down is that the whole Arlington scandale may be making Congress wary of approving anything right now.

Or, they may just be dragging their little feet.

260 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:38:12pm

re: #256 Floral Giraffe

And in this part of NA, the tarantula really is cuddly and docile. Worst case scenario, they fling their butt hairs at you when they feel threatened.

261 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:38:16pm

re: #259 SanFranciscoZionist

Habit of deadlock is my guess :p

It’s weird to me that there’s a memorial to confederate veterans but not one to Jewish ones tho’ :(

262 windsagio  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:39:07pm

oop work; y’all have a good night! :D

263 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:40:15pm

re: #262 windsagio

Make lotsa money!
Or, work well!

264 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:40:37pm

re: #261 windsagio

Habit of deadlock is my guess :p

It’s weird to me that there’s a memorial to confederate veterans but not one to Jewish ones tho’ :(

That is fairly awful, isn’t it? But I don’t think there’s a Bureau of Fairness for these things. If you want something put up for your group, you go to Congress and ask for permission, and you fundraise.

I’m just irritated because I think (maybe unfairly) that this guy is angling for it to be the Democrats’ fault.

265 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:40:55pm

re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist

There are three memorials to fallen U.S. chaplains in Arlington. One from 1926, and two done in the 80s, one Protestant and one Catholic. There’s a move on now to get one put up for the Jewish chaplains. Apparently Congress is not moving their ass sufficiently fast on this—people hoped to get ‘er approved by Memorial Day.

I am now dealing with a guy online who appears to believe that the government pays for these things, as well as approving them for installation in Arlington. He also wants to know who was ‘the political party in control when the other chaplains got a monument’.

That would be Coolidge, Reagan and GHW Bush’s terms, but damned if I can figure out what his angle is here.

(This is a group that’s very pissed off about liberal Jews.)

It sounds like he’s pushing the “Democrats don’t care about the military” schtick. It’s got some validity, if Barack Obama was the same man today he was 10 years ago. But he’s not that man anymore.

266 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:42:03pm

re: #262 windsagio

oop work; y’all have a good night! :D

Tell the john to wait a minute, you sound like you have something to say.
/kidding

267 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:42:22pm

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

It sounds like he’s pushing the “Democrats don’t care about the military” schtick. It’s got some validity, if Barack Obama was the same man today he was 10 years ago. But he’s not that man anymore.

Fails on a number of levels, though. Congress, not the President, approves these things, and the request to install them comes from non-governmental groups.

268 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:43:04pm

re: #267 SanFranciscoZionist

Fails on a number of levels, though. Congress, not the President, approves these things, and the request to install them comes from non-governmental groups.

True.

269 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:45:18pm

Roger Ebert tweets: petty crime of the month:

Man caught huffing keyboard duster spray at porn shop
270 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:47:14pm

re: #269 jaunte

Roger Ebert tweets: petty crime of the month:

Now, was it HIS dust spray, or was he bogarting the store’s?

And frankly, a guy who’s getting high on keyboard cleaner at a porn shop is already in a pretty deep pit of suck. Was it really necessary to get the cops involved?

271 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:47:53pm

re: #270 SanFranciscoZionist

Now, was it HIS dust spray, or was he bogarting the store’s?

And frankly, a guy who’s getting high on keyboard cleaner at a porn shop is already in a pretty deep pit of suck. Was it really necessary to get the cops involved?

OK, rotating title nomination!
LOL!

272 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:48:09pm

re: #270 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that going through life as Mr. Pester may be punishment enough.

273 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:48:15pm

re: #257 jaunte

[Link: www.amazon.com…]
His book cover reminds me of Austin Kleon’s poems:
[Link: www.austinkleon.com…]

Q: Which companies or Websites are personalizing like this?

A: In one form or another, nearly every major website on the Internet is flirting with personalization. But the one that surprises people most is Google.

Why? Because they have the hilariously ironic motto “Don’t Be Evil”?
/He asked no one in particular.

274 DaddyLawBucks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:48:37pm

re: #238 Floral Giraffe

we were just in Nevada this weekend, and boy, it it empty! Looks like a good place to test A bombs

275 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:49:40pm

re: #270 SanFranciscoZionist

deep pit of suck

Rock band, race horse, or porn title?

276 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:51:43pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

Rock band, race horse, or porn title?

Yes.

277 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:53:34pm

re: #276 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gah! I am grateful that the internet is hiding that from you!

278 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:54:12pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

Rock band, race horse, or porn title?

Bonus points if both the rock band and the race horse feature in the porn so titled.

279 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:54:48pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

Rock band, race horse, or porn title?

Let’s see what the internet says: [Link: www.google.com…]

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:54:57pm

re: #278 SanFranciscoZionist

You and Kragar. You’re on my watch list.

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:55:26pm

OK, for those of you who felt that the People of WalMart were too classy and lacked interest, check out [Link: www.nowaygirl.com….]

This is currently my favorite.

282 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:56:22pm

re: #279 jaunte

Let’s see what the internet says: [Link: www.google.com…]

Do not do the image search

283 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:56:32pm

Good evening all. First off - isn’t life peculiar?

About 9 months ago, an old love (my first love) found me through a business network and sent a few friendly emails. Nice enough, though I managed to conceal the fact that I still loved her after all those years.

Then she sent me one of those “one friend to another, tell me” emails, and I answered vaguely, equivocally. (She saw through that, of course, as we’d corresponded for many, many years.)

Silence for half a year.

And then, about a month ago, it all came spilling out. All the old emotions, dissatisfaction with an unhappy marriage, and a sense of loss and frustration at having missed out on the one true love that would complete an otherwise wasted life. Pledges of deathless love and all the rest of it.

yeah, I’m talking about me.

Isn’t life peculiar?

284 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:56:54pm

re: #282 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Aha!

During these years, the Niagara Falls Reporter was candid. David Staba wrote of AquaFalls as a “35-foot-deep pit that seemed to suck hope from the entire city.”
[Link: www.frank-parlato-junior.name…]
285 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:57:11pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

The fuck?!?

286 Dark_Falcon  Mon, May 16, 2011 9:58:31pm

Goodnight, all.

287 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:00:34pm

re: #281 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, for those of you who felt that the People of WalMart were too classy and lacked interest, check out [Link: www.nowaygirl.com…]

This is currently my favorite.

This one is actually kind of genius.

288 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:02:43pm

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

JINX!

289 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:02:45pm

re: #283 Guanxi88

Good evening all. First off - isn’t life peculiar?

About 9 months ago, an old love (my first love) found me through a business network and sent a few friendly emails. Nice enough, though I managed to conceal the fact that I still loved her after all those years.

Then she sent me one of those “one friend to another, tell me” emails, and I answered vaguely, equivocally. (She saw through that, of course, as we’d corresponded for many, many years.)

Silence for half a year.

And then, about a month ago, it all came spilling out. All the old emotions, dissatisfaction with an unhappy marriage, and a sense of loss and frustration at having missed out on the one true love that would complete an otherwise wasted life. Pledges of deathless love and all the rest of it.

yeah, I’m talking about me.

Isn’t life peculiar?

No, I don’t think you understand - I’M the one doing the pledging and all the rest of it.

I must be crazy, but I tell you the truth……

290 jaunte  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:03:15pm

I’d better get some sleep; goodnight all.

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:03:35pm

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

There’s a fine line between “genius” and “absolute dumb-fuckery”.

Wait, no. There’s not. And that? It’s not on the “genius” side of the line.

292 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:03:44pm

re: #289 Guanxi88

Are you happy to reconnect?
Is this where you want it to go?
Good luck, either way!

293 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:05:08pm

re: #292 Floral Giraffe

Are you happy to reconnect?
Is this where you want it to go?
Good luck, either way!

Of course - the whole thing wrecked my peace of mind for years. but talk about bad timing. Why hadn’t I arrived at this epiphany back when we were both still single?

Why did it take me so long to realize that I’d been chasing HER all those years?

And so here we are.

294 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:05:56pm

re: #289 Guanxi88

No, I don’t think you understand - I’M the one doing the pledging and all the rest of it.

I must be crazy, but I tell you the truth…

Good to see you back, dude.

295 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:06:13pm

re: #293 Guanxi88

Are you really chasing her, or your dream of her?
Just be sure.

296 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:06:29pm

re: #283 Guanxi88

Good evening all. First off - isn’t life peculiar?

About 9 months ago, an old love (my first love) found me through a business network and sent a few friendly emails. Nice enough, though I managed to conceal the fact that I still loved her after all those years.

Then she sent me one of those “one friend to another, tell me” emails, and I answered vaguely, equivocally. (She saw through that, of course, as we’d corresponded for many, many years.)

Silence for half a year.

And then, about a month ago, it all came spilling out. All the old emotions, dissatisfaction with an unhappy marriage, and a sense of loss and frustration at having missed out on the one true love that would complete an otherwise wasted life. Pledges of deathless love and all the rest of it.

yeah, I’m talking about me.

Isn’t life peculiar?

Are you happy? Are you happier than you were?

297 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:07:05pm

re: #294 SanFranciscoZionist

Good to see you back, dude.

Good to be back. Jeez! talk about a wild, dangerous ride at breakneck speed down a coleche road on a moonless night.

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:08:00pm

I also like this one, in part because it’s so wildly weird, and in part because the young woman wearing it looks so…normal. From the hairline down.

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:08:29pm

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

This, on the other hand, is genius.

300 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:08:53pm

re: #295 Floral Giraffe

Are you really chasing her, or your dream of her?
Just be sure.

well, there’s no way to be certain of that, is there?
The whole thing is crazy, but I can’t seem to help it or do anything to stop it.

Worst of all, as a practical matter, nothing can be done about it until my kids are out of the house, and there’s no reasonable person who would wait 20 years (till now) plus the 15 or so years needed before I could divorce and NOT do too much harm to the kids.

F*ck! bad timing.

301 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:10:07pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

There’s a fine line between “genius” and “absolute dumb-fuckery”.

Wait, no. There’s not. And that? It’s not on the “genius” side of the line.

Aww, come on man, imagine it’s Halloween, or Purim. It’s definitely not an everyday look, but busting that out at the right moment would be pretty hilarious.

302 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:10:28pm

re: #296 SanFranciscoZionist

Are you happy? Are you happier than you were?

No worse or better than before; my marriage was always a bit of a challenge (although I’m sure the Bitter Half sees it the same way), but I tell you, I never felt for anyone as I felt for her. Which makes me cautious and reckless at the same time.

303 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:12:41pm

re: #301 goddamnedfrank

Aww, come on man, imagine it’s Halloween, or Purim. It’s definitely not an everyday look, but busting that out at the right moment would be pretty hilarious.

Like a bright red codpiece with rhinestones and twinkle lights.

Its all a question of timing.

304 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:13:47pm

re: #303 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Like a bright red codpiece with rhinestones and twinkle lights.

Its all a question of timing.

yeah, that’s really not a Casual Friday item.

305 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:14:07pm

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist

I also like this one, in part because it’s so wildly weird, and in part because the young woman wearing it looks so…normal. From the hairline down.

LOVE the helicopter. It reminds me of that British Hat guy (whose name escapes me)’s work!

306 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:14:31pm

re: #304 Guanxi88

yeah, that’s really not a Casual Friday item.

Unless its a very casual Friday.

307 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:14:50pm

re: #303 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Like a bright red codpiece with rhinestones and twinkle lights.

Its all a question of timing.

I bet you wear that in secret!

308 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:15:54pm

re: #307 Floral Giraffe

I bet you wear that in secret!

An accessory like that is too nice NOT to share. You owe it to them.

309 Kragar  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:16:34pm

re: #307 Floral Giraffe

I bet you wear that in secret!

Its my dress codpiece.

310 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:18:36pm

re: #305 Floral Giraffe

Philip Treacy, he’s Irish.
I was close!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

311 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:18:48pm

re: #305 Floral Giraffe

LOVE the helicopter. It reminds me of that British Hat guy (whose name escapes me)’s work!

Phillip Treacy? Yeah, I can see him doing one of those.

312 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:20:09pm

re: #296 SanFranciscoZionist

Are you happy? Are you happier than you were?

A more extensive answer would be that I’m freaking terrified. I mean, what if the wife should find out (she found, a decade or more ago, the correspondence between us, found the lady’s photo in there, and went insane) that she and I have been writing, to say nothing of whay we’ve been writing?

Assuming she didn’t kill me outright, it’d be bound to show up in the papers, even under the best of circumstances.

Worse yet, the children.

So, no, I’m not sure happy is the right word, not the right word at all.

313 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:23:55pm

re: #300 Guanxi88

take-away lesson for the room:

Speak your heart, and DON’T let an opportunity to slip by; if it should return, there may be nothing you can do about it except live with the knowledge (and after such knowledge, what forgiveness?) that you had your chance and blew it.

314 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:24:21pm

re: #295 Floral Giraffe

Are you really chasing her, or your dream of her?

An excellent “illustration” of such dilemmas. Beautiful and sad.

315 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:24:51pm

re: #312 Guanxi88

A more extensive answer would be that I’m freaking terrified. I mean, what if the wife should find out (she found, a decade or more ago, the correspondence between us, found the lady’s photo in there, and went insane) that she and I have been writing, to say nothing of whay we’ve been writing?

Assuming she didn’t kill me outright, it’d be bound to show up in the papers, even under the best of circumstances.

Worse yet, the children.

So, no, I’m not sure happy is the right word, not the right word at all.

Hug.

316 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:25:18pm

re: #314 Slumbering Behemoth

An excellent “illustration” of such dilemmas. Beautiful and sad.

And aint’ that life in three words? “beautiful and sad.”

317 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:25:47pm

re: #315 SanFranciscoZionist

Hug.

Good Lord! Two is already impossible to handle. let’s not add another to the mix.

318 DaddyLawBucks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:25:51pm

re: #312 Guanxi88
Be careful my friend.
I ended a 30 year marriage over someone awhile ago. That gap really sucks, there is half of my life that just dropped out of existence with a divorce, it’s not an easy thing, no matter how it looks going in. On the other hand, life is a damn sight better now.

319 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:26:55pm

re: #318 daddylawbucks

Be careful my friend.
I ended a 30 year marriage over someone awhile ago. That gap really sucks, there is half of my life that just dropped out of existence with a divorce, it’s not an easy thing, no matter how it looks going in. On the other hand, life is a damn sight better now.

And that is why, freighted down with a hold full of bourbon, I’ve come here to seek the room’s sage counsel.

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:27:34pm

re: #301 goddamnedfrank

Aww, come on man, imagine it’s Halloween, or Purim. It’s definitely not an everyday look, but busting that out at the right moment would be pretty hilarious.

To me, it just screams to a mugger “I was gonna split your wig and take your money, but it looks like half the job has been done for me”.

Anyone sporting that “doo” should either be tough as nails or packing heat. Or both.

321 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:30:39pm

re: #317 Guanxi88

Good Lord! Two is already impossible to handle. let’s not add another to the mix.

OK, so here’s a soft *smooch*
no one’s looking.

322 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:31:21pm

re: #319 Guanxi88

MEH, this is the WRONG ROOM for sage counsel.

323 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:32:57pm

re: #313 Guanxi88

It is better to regret the things you have done, than to regret the things you haven’t done.

That’s all the sage advice I have, and it’s not even mine.

Consider the commitments you have made, and what you might throw away for a dream that you may never truly realize.

324 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:33:54pm

re: #319 Guanxi88

And that is why, freighted down with a hold full of bourbon, I’ve come here to seek the room’s sage counsel.

And, a “hold full of bourbon” is no way to make life changing decisions, either.
Cold, sober light of dawn, after a hard sleepless night. Or many nights.
My 2 cents worth.

325 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:33:56pm

Seriously though, what the hell?

Why should this be happening now? And why to me, of all people?

I was never known as an especially warm-hearted type of fellow, and, indeed, I had more or less assumed this lady’s feelings had died down about a decade ago, the last time we spoke or wrote. I thought mine had, to tell you the truth.

And then, of a sudden, she asks a probing question, I examine myself, and realize my heart’s unchanged, and - for reasons I cannot provide or even begin to guess at - I tell her as much.

What the hell is the matter with me?

326 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:34:58pm

re: #325 Guanxi88

You’re looking for hope & love?
It’s a very human condition.
Coincidince is in the mind of the beholder.

327 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:35:48pm

re: #323 Slumbering Behemoth

It is better to regret the things you have done, than to regret the things you haven’t done.

That’s all the sage advice I have, and it’s not even mine.

Consider the commitments you have made, and what you might throw away for a dream that you may never truly realize.

I know. This is what makes me crazy over all this.

“In a minute, there is time for decisions and revisions,” & etc.

328 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:36:45pm

re: #324 Floral Giraffe

And, a “hold full of bourbon” is no way to make life changing decisions, either.
Cold, sober light of dawn, after a hard sleepless night. Or many nights.
My 2 cents worth.

Hey, I;m not deciding snookered. I;m just getting snookered so’s I can work up the ginger to seek advice.

329 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:37:54pm

re: #300 Guanxi88

well, there’s no way to be certain of that, is there?
The whole thing is crazy, but I can’t seem to help it or do anything to stop it.

Worst of all, as a practical matter, nothing can be done about it until my kids are out of the house, and there’s no reasonable person who would wait 20 years (till now) plus the 15 or so years needed before I could divorce and NOT do too much harm to the kids.

F*ck! bad timing.

It always amazes me when people think sticking with a unhappy marriage (your term) is better for the kids than a responsibly handled divorce. I mean, it’s none of my business except that you’re airing it all out here and my nic is goddamnedfrank so that’s the kind of feedback I give.

However, my general rule is that a person should be in one relationship at a time. If it’s not working out and the other woman is simply helping you reach that realization, fine, as long as you’re ready, okay and plan on being alone for awhile. However if a person is not ready to be alone then I think they’re setting themselves up for a fall. This happened to my ex-wife, two weeks after she left the guy she left me for dumped her for being too clingy. Sucked for her because she really wasn’t ready to be alone but I’d already come to the realization that I couldn’t possibly ever trust her again.

330 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:37:55pm

re: #326 Floral Giraffe

You’re looking for hope & love?
It’s a very human condition.
Coincidince is in the mind of the beholder.

hell, we’re all looking for that.

Say it with me:

Vanitas vanitatum

331 DaddyLawBucks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:38:41pm

re: #325 Guanxi88

Nothing is the matter with you. Romantic love ( and monogamy in particular ) are just not realistic, but they are what the women we love have been brought up to expect from us. So, unless your current wife is going to let you join a cult like the Yearning For Zion folks, you have to make a choice: are you going to betray this woman just to gratify your ego or lust ? Or are you a manly man whose word is unimpeachable?

332 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:39:19pm

re: #325 Guanxi88

What the hell is the matter with me?

You’re human.

333 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:41:04pm

re: #331 daddylawbucks

See, the thing is, there never was anything along the lines you indicate, nor, indeed, have the old one and I ever brought this up. Well, the topic did once, in my dorm room, and I counseled chastity. (hey, it can happen!)

I know that the likeliest conclusion of all this will be status quo ante, with she and I sadder but wiser for having come clean to each other after all these years.

334 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:41:23pm

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

You’re human.

You take that back!

335 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:42:47pm

re: #329 goddamnedfrank

It’s also very worth thinking about, in a harsh, bright light, WHY it didn’t work out before. Have the fundamentals changed? Just stop, take your time & make the wisest decision that you can, before you tear yours & your loved ones lives apart.

336 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:43:21pm

re: #331 daddylawbucks

The good news, there’s sufficient geography between us to avoid any precipitous actions being taken. Indeed, I’ve suggested she stay away from the state entirely until we figure everything out.

337 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:44:37pm

re: #335 Floral Giraffe

And that’s why I’m going nuts over here.

It was all just bad timing and bad luck - she couldn’t stay at school, had to go back to be with her family.

338 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:45:15pm

re: #295 Floral Giraffe

Are you really chasing her, or your dream of her?

Wise words, worthy of deep consideration.

339 DaddyLawBucks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:46:44pm

re: #336 Guanxi88

In one view, you made a commitment to your current wife, and now you owe it to her to stick with her —- and in another view, what’s up with this “little susy homewrecker” woman? what a power trip for her to put you through all these changes.

e

340 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:47:23pm

re: #337 Guanxi88

If there is “time pressure” other than what YOU are putting on YOURSELF, I see that as a big, red flag. There may not be, but it’s something to think about.

341 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:48:30pm

re: #328 Guanxi88

Hey, I;m not deciding snookered. I;m just getting snookered so’s I can work up the ginger to seek advice.

I’ll say this. Don’t tell yourself you need to stay in a marriage that’s bad for you.

And don’t leave a marriage because you think there might be someone better for you.

This is not derived from years of hard-earned experience. It’s just what Dear Abby always says, and I believe her.

342 DaddyLawBucks  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:48:44pm

Good night Lizzards!

343 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:49:38pm

re: #340 Floral Giraffe

If there is “time pressure” other than what YOU are putting on YOURSELF, I see that as a big, red flag. There may not be, but it’s something to think about.

Oh, no, there’s no real rush. This thing has kept, as it were, twenty years now. The thing is, it’s driving me nuts. That’s all.

As i said, realistically, I couldn’t do anything until the kids are out of the house, and they’ll be here for at least another 10 to 15 years. (without paying rent, I might add!)

344 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:50:57pm

re: #339 daddylawbucks

In one view, you made a commitment to your current wife, and now you owe it to her to stick with her —- and in another view, what’s up with this “little susy homewrecker” woman? what a power trip for her to put you through all these changes.

e

and if a friend came to me with this scenario, I’d tell him more or less the same thing. Again, I must be nuts.

345 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:54:57pm

re: #343 Guanxi88

Oh, no, there’s no real rush. This thing has kept, as it were, twenty years now. The thing is, it’s driving me nuts. That’s all.

As i said, realistically, I couldn’t do anything until the kids are out of the house, and they’ll be here for at least another 10 to 15 years. (without paying rent, I might add!)

If I felt that I couldn’t get out of a situation for a decade or better, I might try to improve it. Wives are usually the first to suggest marriage counseling, husbands usually the last to recognize its value.

346 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:56:39pm

re: #345 goddamnedfrank

If I felt that I couldn’t get out of a situation for a decade or better, I might try to improve it. Wives are usually the first to suggest marriage counseling, husbands usually the last to recognize its value.

Eh, we tried that. Fact is, the wife ain’t that fond of me. I mean, she loves me, as it were, she just doesn’t like me that much. “you’re a good father, but you’re a cold-hearted son of bitch and a lousy husband.”

And, in this case, too, I examined myself, and agreed.

347 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:57:37pm

re: #346 Guanxi88

Eh, we tried that. Fact is, the wife ain’t that fond of me. I mean, she loves me, as it were, she just doesn’t like me that much. “you’re a good father, but you’re a cold-hearted son of bitch and a lousy husband.”

And, in this case, too, I examined myself, and agreed.

Now that we’ve determined that you’re a cold-hearted SOB, how do you feel about her?

348 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 10:58:36pm

re: #347 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that we’ve determined that you’re a cold-hearted SOB, how do you feel about her?

She’s a good mother, and I can’t stand to be around her. This is why we minimize our time around each other.

349 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:00:55pm

re: #346 Guanxi88

And, in this case, too, I examined myself, and agreed.

350 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:01:04pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

She’s a good mother, and I can’t stand to be around her. This is why we minimize our time around each other.

I’m a little worried about the fact that your marriage seems to be making no one happy.

351 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:01:39pm

re: #345 goddamnedfrank

If I felt that I couldn’t get out of a situation for a decade or better, I might try to improve it. Wives are usually the first to suggest marriage counseling, husbands usually the last to recognize its value.

Quoted for truth!

352 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:02:55pm

re: #346 Guanxi88

Try another counselor. Keep trying, if you think there’s anything worth saving.
Good luck on your journey.
Night All.

353 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:02:59pm

re: #350 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m a little worried about the fact that your marriage seems to be making no one happy.

Seems to be all right for the kids. They seem happy.

But for the first, we would have been divorced ages ago. She was so happy to be a mother, she wanted more. And she admitted she’d hoped the kis would “fix” us. I told her she should have experimented with a dog first.

354 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:03:18pm

re: #348 Guanxi88

She’s a good mother, and I can’t stand to be around her. This is why we minimize our time around each other.

Wow, so familiar.

Seriously, as the child of divorced parents, it’s better than being raised in a dysfunctional relationship.

355 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:03:53pm

re: #350 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m a little worried about the fact that your marriage seems to be making no one happy.

Or, that your perception of your marriage, is that no one is happy.
Perceptions can change.

356 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:06:45pm

in this current scenario, Bitter half and I would have divorced about 8 years ago, but for kid #1. Kid #1 made her so happy, she wanted another, and then another. She really did that whole “give me children or I die” type of thing.

357 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:06:59pm

re: #354 goddamnedfrank

Wow, so familiar.

Seriously, as the child of divorced parents, it’s better than being raised in a dysfunctional relationship.

Divorce, can affect the kids in so many different ways.
Sometimes it’s better for the parents to stop fighting,
othertimes it’s not. It is so dependent on the people involved, and the way a break up or a stay together is handled.
Good luck, with your journey.
May the road rise up to meet you.

358 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:07:16pm

re: #353 Guanxi88

Seems to be all right for the kids. They seem happy.

How things “seem” and how they are ain’t always similar.

359 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:08:03pm

re: #358 goddamnedfrank

How things “seem” and how they are ain’t always similar.

I know, I know. it’s all so freakin’ muddled.

360 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:09:09pm

re: #359 Guanxi88

A good marriage counselor, is my suggestion.
If she won’t go, go alone.
You need help making a BIG decision.
Good help.

361 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:10:37pm

re: #360 Floral Giraffe

Yep, and with that, I go to smoke my pipe and drink some more and sort of meditate.

362 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:11:29pm

re: #361 Guanxi88

PLAN where you are going to get a referral to a GOOD marriage counselor.
CALL TOMORROW.
Promise? Pinky swear?

363 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:11:41pm

re: #361 Guanxi88

Yep, and with that, I go to smoke my pipe and drink some more and sort of meditate.

Good luck. And another hug—you can save it for later.

364 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:15:22pm

I’ve never been married, nor sired any children. I have had plenty of girlfriends, most of them crazy, sadistic bitches. Happy to be rid of any of them, but I had my part to play in every one of those relationships. It always take two to tango.

My greatest fault was that I chased after an ideal, not a reality.

365 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:15:38pm

re: #362 Floral Giraffe

PLAN where you are going to get a referral to a GOOD marriage counselor.
CALL TOMORROW.
Promise? Pinky swear?

I seldom make promises drunk, and never after 6 in the evening. But yeah, I gotta figure out what to do here. If it’s like a sink or a drain, or basic dentistry, I can more or less puzzle my way through it, but something like this is a bit more involved

366 Guanxi88  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:16:37pm

re: #364 Slumbering Behemoth

My greatest fault was that I chased after an ideal, not a reality.

To quote WP Mayhew “The truth, my dear, is a tart, and does not bear scrutiny!”

367 boxhead  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:17:53pm

re: #41 Rightwingconspirator

That little addition to registration fees was a damn good plan. Too bad it failed to pass. They shoulda closed the parks before the ballot was issued. Maybe that would have changed some minds.

As a frequent visitor to our parks, a increase in fees is the least I could do. Access to open space heals the soul. :)

368 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:20:03pm

re: #366 Guanxi88

You know what dude? You’re a dick! Here I was, trying to get drunk and talk about water and farming and what not, and now you’ve made me do some fucking soul searching.

/kidding

369 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:24:17pm

re: #365 Guanxi88

You have community resources, friends, family, the local “best” divorce attorney, Church, etc. I hope you will reach out & try to find the help that you need. Keep trying. And best wishes for you & your loved ones.

370 DaddyLawBucks  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:24:34pm

re: #365 Guanxi88

Forgive me, I was on the way to bed, but didn’t you say that you have never actually slept with this other woman? Maybe ( I know this sounds dumb, but consider it) you can make your current wife fall back into love with you…..after all, you sold her on it once…..
Good luck to you no matter how you work it out.

371 boxhead  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:29:10pm

Late night music courtesy of the movie August Rush. A bit cheesy, but being a big music lover I found this movie very entertaining.

This is the final scene where August conducts his rhapsody.

372 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:35:40pm

re: #366 Guanxi88

Good luck, either way you go. I do not envy you your position.

374 Lidane  Mon, May 16, 2011 11:49:43pm

re: #373 laZardo

Tonight on Superjail, the Warden gets an iPhone.

[Video]

Watching that right now. Such a strange show, but I find myself getting into it every time.

375 researchok  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:12:05am

Morning, all

376 researchok  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:20:48am

Has FT gone into hiding?

377 Steve  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:40:30am

Q. So, how do you photograph kids?


A. You tie them up and then shoot them.


Old Photographers joke.

378 freetoken  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:41:52am

re: #376 researchok

I iz bizee…

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:43:22am

re: #139 freetoken

re: #376 researchok

I think he’s cloistered.

380 freetoken  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:46:26am

But thanks for inquiring.

Here is a consolation for being up late:

Dizzy from 1948, live in Paris:


381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:47:58am

re: #371 boxhead

I count that movie as a guilty pleasure. The movie itself? AWFUL! But, most of the music (with the laughable exception of his “father’s” music) was very nice.

(And the mom? Kerri Russel? Gawjus.)

382 freetoken  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:51:39am

Bonus song for the night:

Segovia playing “Fantasie”:

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 3:55:30am

Dominique Strauss-Kahn gets the beginning of what is due him.

No bail.

yay.

384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:07:22am

Schwarzenegger reveals he had child with staffer

Apologies if already linked…

385 FemNaziBitch  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:16:51am

Morning all! I closed my eyes last night at 7pm intending to just rest. Woke-up about an hour ago.

How are you this morning?

386 FemNaziBitch  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:23:42am

In case you haven’t already heard of this guy:

James Zwerg.

Worth reading, remembering and sharing.

387 laZardo  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:27:03am
388 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:34:19am

re: #385 ggt

Nice. Greatest feelin’ in the world, isn’t it?

389 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:35:02am

Good morning folks. This is an on-going local story:

Drug and alcohol tests had ‘error after error’
Emails reveal 7 years of mistakes at state’s toxicology lab and show IU was slow to act
[Link: www.indystar.com…]


Testing errors at the state’s toxicology lab go back at least seven years — much further than previously reported — according to internal emails obtained by The Indianapolis Star.
…..
Among the more important revelations from the correspondence:

» There was a pattern of incorrect test results — including the kind that could lead to people being denied or escaping justice — from 2004 to 2006. That’s significant because the test results being reviewed in the current audit are from 2007 to 2009. The current audit already has found the lab sent out, on average, a flawed marijuana result every 3.28 days and a false positive marijuana result once every 18 days.

» From 2003 to 2008, IU allowed the lab to languish under an acting director, Method, who acknowledged he was underqualified for the job.

» Method reported to Vasko, but IU says Vasko’s job was merely broad “administrative oversight” — leaving the lab to its acting director as problems mounted.

390 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:37:27am

re: #385 ggt

Morning all! I closed my eyes last night at 7pm intending to just rest. Woke-up about an hour ago.

How are you this morning?

An unexpected gift from the sandman. Good on ya.
Good morning everyone. It’s cool here. Won’t warm up for a couple days. May can be a little wishy/washee.

391 rwdflynavy  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:42:57am

re: #389 RogueOneDC police just had a similar problem with their DUI charges. Lots of them got dropped due to problems with the breathalyzer. No, I was not one of them.

392 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:44:16am

re: #391 rwdflynavy

Yeah. Ones that had already been convicted wrongly? What happened to those? That will mess you up for life.

393 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:49:26am

re: #391 rwdflynavy

DC police just had a similar problem with their DUI charges. Lots of them got dropped due to problems with the breathalyzer. No, I was not one of them.

“.13? That can’t be right, I’m feeling at least .19”

394 FemNaziBitch  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:49:35am

off to get some stuff done.

Have a great morning all!

395 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:52:54am

I have a shitload of work piling up that I can’t complete because I am still waiting for a password reset that was requested LAST WEEK. No wonder they call the “help desk” the “Abandon All Hope” Desk.

396 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 4:55:32am

re: #341 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ll say this. Don’t tell yourself you need to stay in a marriage that’s bad for you.

And don’t leave a marriage because you think there might be someone better for you.

This is not derived from years of hard-earned experience. It’s just what Dear Abby always says, and I believe her.

This. Life is too short to stick around in a bad relationship. Why would you want to wake up 10 years from now knowing you wasted the last decade of your life when you knew it wasn’t going to last? OTOH, people are always making the mistake of falling for romanticized memories of long-lost loves and “the grass is always greener” syndrome. (it’s a syndrome, look it up//).

Guanxi, If it’s over, it’s over regardless of the other woman. Do the right thing for yourself and your kids and then worry about another relationship.

397 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:02:42am

Bernard-Henri Lévy Defends Accused IMF Director
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]


I do not know—but, on the other hand, it would be nice to know, and without delay—how a chambermaid could have walked in alone, contrary to the habitual practice of most of New York’s grand hotels of sending a “cleaning brigade” of two people, into the room of one of the most closely watched figures on the planet.

And I do not want to enter into considerations of dime-store psychology that claims to penetrate the mind of the subject, observing, for example, that the number of the room (2806) corresponds to the date of the opening of the Socialist Party primaries in France (06.28), in which he is the uncontested favorite, thereby concluding that this is all a Freudian slip, a subconsciously deliberate mistake, and blah blah blah.

What I do know is that nothing in the world can justify a man being thus thrown to the dogs.

Shorter version:
“That attempted rape thing and slapping you in the face with his penis was all just a big misunderstanding….Oh, and it’s kinda your fault. You shouldn’t have come into the room alone.”

398 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:11:30am

re: #384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Schwarzenegger reveals he had child with staffer

Apologies if already linked…

FTA:


In an interview Monday before Schwarzenegger issued his statement, the former staffer said another man — her then-husband — was the child’s father.

So…the former husband is paying child support for a kid that turned out not to be his?

399 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:13:15am

re: #397 RogueOne

Bernard-Henri Lévy Defends Accused IMF Director
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]

Shorter version:
“That attempted rape thing and slapping you in the face with his penis was all just a big misunderstanding…Oh, and it’s kinda your fault. You shouldn’t have come into the room alone.”

I really enjoyed reading how the police learned of his whereabouts to make the arrest: He called the hotel to say his cell phone was missing. The hotel, instructed by police, asked where he was so they could deliver to him. That’s when he said he was about to board a plane for Paris.
This could be a movie scene or chapter in a book.

400 Flounder  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:17:34am

I picked the right weekend to plant grass seed:
[Link: radar.weather.gov…]
I hope it doesn’t do this all summer!

401 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:20:23am

re: #400 Shropshire_Slasher

I picked the right weekend to plant grass seed:
[Link: radar.weather.gov…]
I hope it doesn’t do this all summer!

It feels like it has rained everyday for a month here. I’ve had to mow my yard 2x a week. On the plus side, my roses are growing like weeds. I’m going to have a 10’x8’ wall of roses in my backyard.

402 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:33:10am

re: #400 Shropshire_Slasher

I picked the right weekend to plant grass seed:
[Link: radar.weather.gov…]
I hope it doesn’t do this all summer!

Looks like seed’s gonna be off to a good start w/o much hand watering.

403 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:35:46am

Ahnuld… Putting the “Party” in GOP!

404 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:38:19am

Coffee’s good this morning but I don’t have a complimentary donut. The only donut shop nearby is a Dunkin and not to my liking. I’m not a Dunkin fan, so suffering a bit.

405 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:38:47am

O’ Canada:

Wrongfully arrested man sues Hamilton Police
[Link: chch.com…]


Back in August 2003, Dixon was arrested at gunpoint after just getting off a GO Transit bus on his way home from work. He was arrested for a jewelery store robbery - but had been on the bus when the break-in happened. The police did not check with the bus driver. Further complicating the arrest was the fact that Dixon is black - but witnesses told police a white man broke into the store. Dixon spent over three days in jail and lived under bail restrictions for months before the charges were dropped.

It only took them 3 days to realize he wasn’t white. “That’s great police work there Lou”

406 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:41:06am

re: #399 Semper Fi

I really enjoyed reading how the police learned of his whereabouts to make the arrest: He called the hotel to say his cell phone was missing. The hotel, instructed by police, asked where he was so they could deliver to him. That’s when he said he was about to board a plane for Paris.
This could be a movie scene or chapter in a book.

“Former Culture Minister Jack Lang described the treatment of the Socialist presidential frontrunner — whose political career is now in tatters — as a “lynching” that had “provoked horror and aroused disgust.”

The U.S. justice system, he said, was “politicized” and the judge appeared to have been determined to “make a Frenchman pay” by denying the head of the International Monetary Fund bail even though his lawyer had offered to post a $1 million bond.

To many Americans, the handling of Strauss-Kahn reflected an egalitarian tradition that all crime suspects get the same treatment, regardless of their wealth or power.

Socialist Party leader Martine Aubry denounced “degrading images” and said France was lucky to have a law on the presumption of innocence that bars media from showing defendants in handcuffs before they are convicted.”
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com…]

I love the Irony in the fact it’s a Socialist party Leader being lead around by the nose, like a commoner… minion…. like us regular folks that are accused of the violent crimes against a women that Domi is facing.

Oh, the gall of the American justice system…

407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:42:18am

re: #400 Shropshire_Slasher

I picked the right weekend to plant grass seed:
[Link: radar.weather.gov…]
I hope it doesn’t do this all summer!

A neighbor just had the entire top 3 inches of soil removed from their yard (1/2 acre or so) and replaced with sod.

I can’t begin to imagine what the cost was on that. I don’t live in a high-end neighborhood either.

Just. Wow.

408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:42:40am

re: #405 RogueOne

RBWB (riding bus)

409 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:47:59am

re: #377 Steve

Q. So, how do you photograph kids?

A. You tie them up and then shoot them.

Old Photographers joke.

I’ve seen the joke in action. Worked as a kid in a ‘catalog house’ shooting the photos for major mail-order houses on a tight schedule. Precision was critical, and we shot 4x5 or 8x10’s with the art director’s guide taped inverted to the round glass. Our kiddie specialist once had to shoot SEVEN uncooperative($$$) kids in a complex scene. After an hour or two of their BS he had the studio carpenter come up, ordered the kids out of their shoes, nailed them to the set and laced them back in.

410 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:53:05am

re: #406 Ericus58

I don’t understand where all this public outpouring of support is coming from. Granted, we can’t be positive he’s guilty but the charges are heinous enough that maybe people should keep their mouths shut about what a great guy he is until they’re sure he’s not a rapist.

411 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:55:51am

re: #406 Ericus58

“Former Culture Minister Jack Lang described the treatment of the Socialist presidential frontrunner — whose political career is now in tatters — as a “lynching” that had “provoked horror and aroused disgust.”

The U.S. justice system, he said, was “politicized” and the judge appeared to have been determined to “make a Frenchman pay” by denying the head of the International Monetary Fund bail even though his lawyer had offered to post a $1 million bond.

To many Americans, the handling of Strauss-Kahn reflected an egalitarian tradition that all crime suspects get the same treatment, regardless of their wealth or power.

Socialist Party leader Martine Aubry denounced “degrading images” and said France was lucky to have a law on the presumption of innocence that bars media from showing defendants in handcuffs before they are convicted.”
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com…]

I love the Irony in the fact it’s a Socialist party Leader being lead around by the nose, like a commoner… minion… like us regular folks that are accused of the violent crimes against a women that Domi is facing.

Oh, the gall of the American justice system…

I think what you say can’t be discounted. I think there’s also this element: “Domi”, may be the first high profile rape suspect heading for France since Roman Polanski and they don’t want to lose him.

412 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:56:35am

re: #410 RogueOne

I don’t understand where all this public outpouring of support is coming from. Granted, we can’t be positive he’s guilty but the charges are heinous enough that maybe people should keep their mouths shut about what a great guy he is until they’re sure he’s not a rapist.

If the facts in this case bear out what the woman has brought forth, there is no other way to describe Domi other than a Rapist.

The scene in the movie “The girl with the dragoon tattoo” where her rapist probation officer gets his just reward by her hand - that works for me.

413 Flounder  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:56:38am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The wifey likes to do the mowing, unfortunately, she hit the bus hut, knocked over my ornamental rock, and “removed” my ramp to my shed. I can’t wait to see what the blades look like, at least they are all still on.

414 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:57:39am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A neighbor just had the entire top 3 inches of soil removed from their yard (1/2 acre or so) and replaced with sod.

I can’t begin to imagine what the cost was on that. I don’t live in a high-end neighborhood either.

Just. Wow.

I’ll bet it’s lovely too.

415 Flounder  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:58:35am

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Every once in a while, a carpenter will get his boot screwed to the bridge deck (while he is wearing them) if he isn’t moving fast enough, good times for all!

416 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:59:06am

re: #411 Semper Fi

I think what you say can’t be discounted. I think there’s also this element: “Domi”, may be the first high profile rape suspect heading for France since Roman Polanski and they don’t want to lose him.

Bingo.
France has a solid history of not extraditing suspects back to the U.S. to stand trail.
And Domi knew that. So instead of a flight that day he had missed to another city within the U.S. - he hightailed it to the airport to leave the country.

417 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:59:48am

re: #412 Ericus58

If the facts in this case bear out what the woman has brought forth, there is no other way to describe Domi other than a Rapist.

The scene in the movie “The girl with the dragoon tattoo” where her rapist probation officer gets his just reward by her hand - that works for me.

agreed. I go back and forth on the death penalty but I don’t think it would be considered “cruel and unusual” to stick a needle in a rapist’s arm.

418 Flounder  Tue, May 17, 2011 5:59:51am

re: #416 Ericus58

Polanski ring a bell?

419 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:00:28am

re: #409 Decatur Deb

I’ve seen the joke in action. Worked as a kid in a ‘catalog house’ shooting the photos for major mail-order houses on a tight schedule. Precision was critical, and we shot 4x5 or 8x10’s with the art director’s guide taped inverted to the round glass. Our kiddie specialist once had to shoot SEVEN uncooperative($$$) kids in a complex scene. After an hour or two of their BS he had the studio carpenter come up, ordered the kids out of their shoes, nailed them to the set and laced them back in.

A creative solution. Kid’s are such jitterbugs.

420 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:01:57am

re: #410 RogueOne

I don’t understand where all this public outpouring of support is coming from. Granted, we can’t be positive he’s guilty but the charges are heinous enough that maybe people should keep their mouths shut about what a great guy he is until they’re sure he’s not a rapist.

And so looks like it’s only her word against his.

421 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:03:11am

Rain, rain, rain, rain…

Good morning lizards!

422 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:03:46am

re: #421 NJDhockeyfan

Rain, rain, rain, rain…

Good morning lizards!

It’s a beautiful sunny morning here in the wild north country. Not a cloud to be had.

423 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:05:37am

re: #419 Semper Fi

A creative solution. Kid’s are such jitterbugs.

This officer has a novel approach:

Officer leaves BPD after incident
[Link: www.pantagraph.com…]


Oglesby was placed on paid administrative leave following the Dec. 21 incident at the school. According to police reports, Oglesby was at the school for another incident and went into a room where the special-needs child was suffering a seizure, which his parents say causes him to scream and throw a tantrum.

Oglesby told the young boy he was giving him a headache and then lifted the 65-pound boy by the throat. He “was lifted off the floor so his feet were dangling … his head was close to the ceiling … his face was turning quite red,” according to the school psychologist’s statement to police.

424 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:08:19am

re: #422 thedopefishlives

It’s a beautiful sunny morning here in the wild north country. Not a cloud to be had.

I’m waiting for my garden to wash away for the third time. I wish I could give this rain to Texas.

426 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:09:38am

When in China, beware of exploding watermelons!

Fields of watermelon burst in China farm fiasco

Watermelons have been bursting by the score in eastern China after farmers gave them overdoses of growth chemicals during wet weather, creating what state media called fields of “land mines.”

About 20 farmers around Danyang city in Jiangsu province were affected, losing up to 115 acres (45 hectares) of melon, China Central Television said in an investigative report.

Prices over the past year prompted many farmers to jump into the watermelon market. All of those with exploding melons apparently were first-time users of the growth accelerator forchlorfenuron, though it has been widely available for some time, CCTV said.

427 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:09:50am

re: #424 NJDhockeyfan

I’m waiting for my garden to wash away for the third time. I wish I could give this rain to Texas.

In the meantime, here on the upper Mississippi we’ve had quite enough, thank you very much. Thankfully, the flooding isn’t as bad here as it is further downstream, but I’ve no doubt that our higher-than-usual water volume is contributing to the problem.

428 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:10:14am

re: #424 NJDhockeyfan

I’m waiting for my garden to wash away for the third time. I wish I could give this rain to Texas.

All that prayer worked but god’s aim is off.

429 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:10:54am

re: #425 Varek Raith

Hedgecock: Trump Dropped Out Because “Banks” Are “Nationalized,” Making It “Tough” For Obama Opponents To “Get A Loan”

Lolwhut

Because everybody knows Donald Trump has to get a loan in order to stand for public office. Right.

430 RogueOne  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:11:04am

Work to do, enjoy the day folks.

431 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:11:05am

re: #416 Ericus58

Bingo.
France has a solid history of not extraditing suspects back to the U.S. to stand trail.
And Domi knew that. So instead of a flight that day he had missed to another city within the U.S. - he hightailed it to the airport to leave the country.

So he was originally planning to visit another US city and decided Paris instead? That doesn’t look good for him.
What a shock. $3000/night penthouse one night and Rykers Island the next.

432 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:14:15am

Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are gourmet restaurants, nightclubs, fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’s district


Of the 204 new Obamacare waivers President Barack Obama’s administration approved in April, 38 are for fancy eateries, hip nightclubs and decadent hotels in House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s Northern California district.

That’s in addition to the 27 new waivers for health care or drug companies and the 31 new union waivers Obama’s Department of Health and Human Services approved.

Pelosi’s district secured almost 20 percent of the latest issuance of waivers nationwide, and the companies that won them didn’t have much in common with companies throughout the rest of the country that have received Obamacare waivers.

Other common waiver recipients were labor union chapters, large corporations, financial firms and local governments. But Pelosi’s district’s waivers are the first major examples of luxurious, gourmet restaurants and hotels getting a year-long pass from Obamacare.

Nancy Pelosi must have finally read it since it was passed.

433 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:15:20am

re: #423 RogueOne

This officer has a novel approach:

Officer leaves BPD after incident
[Link: www.pantagraph.com…]

Hopefully, Oglesby is not himself a father.

434 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:17:23am

re: #424 NJDhockeyfan

I’m waiting for my garden to wash away for the third time. I wish I could give this rain to Texas.

Texas would probably welcome each and every drop. I’ve heard they’re experiencing drought conditions for couple years.

435 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:20:05am

Morning Honcos.

436 prairiefire  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:22:21am

Arnie knocked up the help:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

437 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:24:01am

Mornin’ lacerti…

438 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:24:31am
439 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:25:36am

re: #438 Alouette

What’s Trump need a loan for? I thought he was Mr. Moneybags.

He’s only renting his charming personality.

440 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:27:09am

re: #436 prairiefire

Arnie knocked up the help:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

See what leaving politics does to you? If he could have stayed governor, they could have kept this secret for another ten years.

441 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:29:52am

Going to drive in to town. I hope I don’t find and flooding. There is a flood warning until 2am for this area.

Chow!

442 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:31:08am

re: #441 NJDhockeyfan

Going to drive in to town. I hope I don’t find and flooding. There is a flood warning until 2am for this area.

Chow!

If you see a flooded intersection, just hit the gas real hard! Makes a big splash when you go through…and be safe, of course.

443 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:36:19am

re: #441 NJDhockeyfan

Going to drive in to town. I hope I don’t find and flooding. There is a flood warning until 2am for this area.

Chow!

Just pray you don’t run into this fella.

444 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:38:39am

re: #443 reine.de.tout

Just pray you don’t run into this fella.

Holy crap!!!

445 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:39:18am

re: #432 NJDhockeyfan

Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are gourmet restaurants, nightclubs, fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’s district

Nancy Pelosi must have finally read it since it was passed.

San Francisco businesses must provide health insurance for their employees per a city measure that voters approved and have since 2001.

Effective July 1, 2001, the Health Care Accountability Ordinance (HCAO) generally requires City contractors and certain tenants to offer health plan benefits to their covered employees, to make payments to the City for use by the Department of Public Health, or, under limited circumstances, to make payments directly to their covered employees.

Effective July 1, 2009, the fee option for contractors/tenants is $3.00 per hour, capped at $120.00 per work week. Note: Each July 1 the fee option will be adjusted for inflation.

Update (7/1/10): the fee options remains $3.00 per hour, capped at $120.00 per work week, through June 30, 2011.

So mandated employer coverage already exists, which is why they’re able to get exempted from the new national healthcare act for the time being.

446 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:41:13am

re: #443 reine.de.tout

Just pray you don’t run into this fella.

He’s harmless…just wants to give you a little hug.

447 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:43:19am

re: #445 darthstar

So businesses pay $120/week PER employee?

448 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:44:30am

re: #447 Cannadian Club Akbar

So businesses pay $120/week PER employee?

Yep

449 prairiefire  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:44:48am

re: #443 reine.de.tout

Just pray you don’t run into this fella.

Good grief!

450 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:45:11am

re: #448 darthstar

Yep

That is fucking ridiculous.

451 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:45:53am

re: #446 darthstar

He’s harmless…just wants to give you a little hug.

At least 6 all around hugs at once. Lol

452 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:48:36am

re: #450 Cannadian Club Akbar

That is fucking ridiculous.

It was designed for small businesses with less than 10 employees…there was a big stink about it when the ordinance passed, but it wasn’t long before everyone adjusted and it’s not something that really hurts a place…besides, a Subway sandwich shop with three employees probably takes in about 3500 to 4000 a week (seriously….my wife used to have a Subway under her watch when she managed some dining halls at Stanford…they rake in the cash)

453 Political Atheist  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:48:53am

Good morning from SoCal. This Page linking an article is a must read for those who have a care about civil liberties and privacy in a post Patriot Act / Post Bin Laden nation. Now with Osama dead is the best opportunity to push back on warrantless data mining of Americans.

A choice quote
Drake heard from colleagues that the surveillance involved special “arrangements” that were being made with telecom and credit card companies to collect data on customers. Drake says he tried to raise concerns about the legality of the program with the NSA’s general counsel but was told not to worry about it, that it was legal and none of his business.

“The mantra was ‘Get the data!’” he told The New Yorker.

454 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:48:58am

re: #451 Semper Fi

At least 6 all around hugs at once. Lol

He’s only about three inches long by my measurement.

455 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:53:39am

re: #452 darthstar

Subway is set up for that. The last place I worked had 2 cooks, 2 waitresses and a dishwasher for the AM and the PM shifts, making that 10 employees for 1 day. And the place only seats 75 people.

456 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 6:59:19am

re: #454 darthstar

He’s only about three inches long by my measurement.

The 3” photo measurement translates to major intimidation for me if I were say, taking my daily walk along the road.

457 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:00:09am

Ever notice that people who beatdown another person are actually great people?

“She’s a very nice young lady who lives with her mom and is not the person the press has made her out to be,” Knepp said.

Read more: [Link: www.myfoxdc.com…]

458 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:01:26am

re: #456 Semper Fi

The 3” photo measurement translates to major intimidation for me if I were say, taking my daily walk along the road.

*Gulp*…swallow…dog? What dog was that you were talking about?

459 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:02:08am

re: #457 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ever notice that people who beatdown another person are actually great people?

“She’s a very nice young lady who lives with her mom and is not the person the press has made her out to be,” Knepp said.

Read more: [Link: www.myfoxdc.com…]

She is such a nice young lady that she and her accomplice went back for round two of their assault after having left
Because she cares….

460 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:02:30am

re: #457 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ever notice that people who beatdown another person are actually great people?

“She’s a very nice young lady who lives with her mom and is not the person the press has made her out to be,” Knepp said.

That’s only because most victims are assholes who totally deserved it.
///

461 darthstar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:03:18am

re: #459 Ericus58

She is such a nice young lady that she and her accomplice went back for round two of their assault after having left
Because she cares…

She should date Tucker Carlson.

462 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:04:34am

re: #461 darthstar

She should date Tucker Carlson.

I wasn’t aware that Tucker liked them dominating and rough.

463 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:04:59am

Who needs to smuggle weed or coke?!?!?!?!
[Link: www.wwltv.com…]

464 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:07:11am

re: #443 reine.de.tout

Just pray you don’t run into this fella.

Let me make it clear - I’ve been informed this is NOT a snake from local parts, I’ve never seen a snake this big around here. Somebody added it to a news site’s collection of “Morganza” photos, but it was apparently taken in Australia several weeks ago. It’s a monster.

465 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:10:55am

Corsi still flogging his book despite Obama releasing the long form. He spins the release as “now Obama’s engaged”. Right. You’re peddling a conspiracy theory that is based on no credible evidence.

The refusal of Corsi and other “birthers” to accept Obama’s document comes as no surprise to Ross Baker, professor of political science at Rutgers University.

“The difference between a vampire and a conspiracy theorist is that with a vampire, if you put a stake through its heart, it’s done. With conspiracy theorists, there’s nothing you can do to shut them down,” he said. “They have an unwillingness to confront what the consensus of humanity knows to be a fact.”

466 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:11:03am

re: #458 darthstar

*Gulp*…swallow…dog? What dog was that you were talking about?

Totally… What pup??

467 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:16:07am

re: #465 lawhawk

WND has a hard on today.

468 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:21:00am

re: #467 Cannadian Club Akbar

WND has a hard on today.

Comment from there:
I suppose the delay could be te result of certain questions the registrar’s office had with some information but we’ll never know. ANyway, it’s irrelavent, it’s impossible for a person whose father isn’t a US citizen to be “natural born”. case closed, he’s a usurper and should be arrested and held without bail.

People like this proves why we need velcro on shoes. One might hang himself if laces are involved.

469 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:22:23am

re: #468 Cannadian Club Akbar

Comment from there:
I suppose the delay could be te result of certain questions the registrar’s office had with some information but we’ll never know. ANyway, it’s irrelavent, it’s impossible for a person whose father isn’t a US citizen to be “natural born”. case closed, he’s a usurper and should be arrested and held without bail.

People like this proves why we need velcro on shoes. One might hang himself if laces are involved.

Gah. Teh Stupid, it burns!

470 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:24:36am

re: #464 reine.de.tout

Let me make it clear - I’ve been informed this is NOT a snake from local parts, I’ve never seen a snake this big around here. Somebody added it to a news site’s collection of “Morganza” photos, but it was apparently taken in Australia several weeks ago. It’s a monster.

Thanks for that. Australia’s a good place for it and goes well with the outdoorsy set.

471 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:25:17am

Holy Crap!!!!
[Link: www.nydailynews.com…]

472 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:26:00am

re: #465 lawhawk

Corsi still flogging his book despite Obama releasing the long form. He spins the release as “now Obama’s engaged”. Right. You’re peddling a conspiracy theory that is based on no credible evidence.

It seems Pam Geller is back to pretending she had nothing to do with promoting the Birther conspiracy. She jumped in again briefly when Trump was hot but has now dropped it.

473 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:28:01am

Alrighty, gotta run. I have a 2nd interview for a new waterfront restaurant. I don’t want to go back into management, but the money should help cushion the blow. BBL.

474 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:28:39am

re: #468 Cannadian Club Akbar

Comment from there:
I suppose the delay could be te result of certain questions the registrar’s office had with some information but we’ll never know. ANyway, it’s irrelavent, it’s impossible for a person whose father isn’t a US citizen to be “natural born”. case closed, he’s a usurper and should be arrested and held without bail.

People like this proves why we need velcro on shoes. One might hang himself if laces are involved.

Wait, I’m sorry, WHAT? Somebody needs to read up on the citizenship rules. Ignorance is worse than stupidity; at least stupidity has an excuse.

475 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:30:42am

re: #471 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy Crap!!!
[Link: www.nydailynews.com…]

I think someone just got pissed off from getting beat at scrabble too often….

476 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:33:29am

re: #472 Killgore Trout

Geller can’t escape the fact that she was instrumental in peddling some of the more outlandish aspects of the birther conspiracies, and the Internet caches prove it.

477 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:34:20am

re: #474 thedopefishlives

And consider that Obama’s mother was indisputably a US citizen. Therefore Obama is a natural born citizen regardless of his father’s citizenship.

478 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:34:41am

Looks like Fox News is pushing the next Republican disaster….
GOP Braces for Bachmania
OMG! Bachmaniacs!

479 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:35:54am

re: #478 Killgore Trout

They’ve gone into overdrive. /next step? Plaid.

480 Semper Fi  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:37:18am

Have a nice day everyone.

481 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:47:15am

re: #477 lawhawk

And consider that Obama’s mother was indisputably a US citizen. Therefore Obama is a natural born citizen regardless of his father’s citizenship.

Precisely my point.

482 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:51:21am

The situation with Pakistan has just gone from bad to worse. While Sen. John Kerry appears to have successfully convinced the Pakistanis to return parts from the downed chopper used in the raid to get OBL, Pakistani and NATO forces exchanged fire near the Afghan/Pakistani border.

The clash took place at Admi Kot Post in the North Waziristan tribal region of Pakistan, an area that American officials have long regarded as a haven used by militants to attack coalition forces inside Afghanistan. NATO officials said they were looking into the incident, and could not immediately confirm whether the helicopters had indeed entered Pakistan’s airspace.

The exchange of fire between NATO and Pakistani forces appeared likely to worsen frictions between Pakistan and the United States. The Pakistani Army “lodged a strong protest and demanded a flag meeting,” the statement said, referring to a meeting between officials from Pakistan and NATO.

Last September, Pakistan shut down for more than a week the land route through Pakistan that NATO uses to supply its forces in Afghanistan, after two Pakistani paramilitary soldiers were killed in a similar border clash.

Tuesday’s clash came as Pakistan’s prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, traveled to Beijing. Analysts said that visit was meant to signal to the United States that Pakistan saw China as an alternative source of security and economic aid.

On Monday, Senator John Kerry met with top civil and military leaders in Pakistan in an effort to smooth the fraying relations between the two countries in the wake of the American raid by forces that killed Osama bin Laden. The Pakistani Parliament in a closed-door session last week urged the government to renew and revisit its terms of engagement with the United States. It also warned that it might sever supply lines to coalition forces in Afghanistan if there were further unilateral incursions.

483 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:52:50am

Frum is still dreaming….
GOP Field Looking More Mainstream

484 BishopX  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:55:07am

re: #482 lawhawk

If China decides to stick it’s dick in crazy we’re in for a world of trouble.

485 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 7:59:56am

re: #484 BishopX

China has regional security issues to worry about, to say nothing about its own need for natural resources and energy. Pakistan is looking to China for the same and potentially military aid in the long term as the US shifts towards India (which is something we should have been doing years ago as US interests are really more in line with India than with Pakistan but the Cold War shaped that trilateral relationship.

486 Political Atheist  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:06:31am

re: #463 Cannadian Club Akbar

Who needs to smuggle weed or coke?!?!?!?!
[Link: www.wwltv.com…]

Good to see our agents looking out for Oscar Mayer.

487 prairiefire  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:07:10am

Newt gets a smack down from a crisply dressed Republican in Iowa. I wonder if his wife irons his shirts.

488 prairiefire  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:07:24am

re: #487 prairiefire

Newt gets a smack down from a crisply dressed Republican in Iowa. I wonder if his wife irons his shirts.

[Link: politicalwire.com…]

489 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:08:46am

re: #471 Cannadian Club Akbar

Seen and raised. An alleged cannibal was arrested in Moscow:

The suspect was arrested after police found a stew made from a human liver in a fridge at his Moscow apartment, the official Russian news agency RIA Novosti reported.

The Agence France Presse identified him as Nikolai Shadrin, citing an Investigative Committee statement.

“During a search of the apartment, tools used to dismember the victim and a human liver were found,” the statement reportedly said.

Police found a decapitated head in the Moskva River on Wednesday and an arm severed at the wrist in water at Tsaritsino Park on May 2, Novosti reported. Two feet, a hand and another arm were later discovered around the city, AFP reported.

490 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:12:10am

re: #489 lawhawk

Seen and raised. An alleged cannibal was arrested in Moscow:

The suspect was arrested after police found a stew made from a human liver in a fridge at his Moscow apartment

Did they also find fava beans and a nice chianti?

491 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:13:42am

re: #490 NJDhockeyfan

This is Russia, so I expect borscht and vodka to be the accompaniments of choice.

492 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:15:21am

Pakistan cements China ties amid tension with U.S.

What are the chances China got some great pictures & measurements of our stealth helicopter tail?

493 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:16:23am

re: #492 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan cements China ties amid tension with U.S.

What are the chances China got some great pictures & measurements of our stealth helicopter tail?

I thought we blew it up on the way out.

494 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:17:32am

The IRA is acting up again…
Irish police detonate bomb before Queen’s arrival


The Queen has arrived in Ireland on the first state visit by a ruling British monarch since Ireland became a republic in 1922.

Relations between Ireland and Britain remain strained, and even before the Queen landed in Dublin, police were called to detonate a bomb planted on a bus outside the city.

The incident followed terror threats in London in the lead up to this historic trip.

495 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:18:14am

re: #493 thedopefishlives

I thought we blew it up on the way out.

[Link: abcnews.go.com…]

496 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:18:21am

re: #492 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan cements China ties amid tension with U.S.

What are the chances China got some great pictures & measurements of our stealth helicopter tail?

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao last year called Sino-Pakistani ties “firm as a rock,” and his Pakistani counterpart echoed the sentiment Monday.

“To test a friend whether true or not, it needs time and means under crisis,” Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told China’s state-run media before leaving for a four-day official visit to China, during which he is scheduled to meet Wen and Chinese President Hu Jintao.

“We appreciate that in all difficult circumstances China stood with Pakistan — therefore we call China a true friend and a time-tested and all-weather friend.”

Although Gilani’s trip was planned long before bin Laden’s death, some observers see his comments as a jab to the United States and expect him to further strengthen ties with China to counter mounting U.S. criticisms. While many Americans suspect Pakistan of covertly harboring bin Laden, China has been quick to defend its ally.”

497 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:21:05am

re: #493 thedopefishlives

I thought we blew it up on the way out.

The tail section survived.

498 BongCrodny  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:26:27am

re: #483 Killgore Trout

Frum is still dreaming…
GOP Field Looking More Mainstream


I love this paragraph:

“Of the remaining major candidates, only one – Pawlenty – is positioning himself as a Tea Party style Republican. Romney, Huntsman, and Daniels (if the latter two do decide to run) are positioned as “mainstream Republicans” in the Pew taxonomy: conservative yes, but governance minded rather than protest minded.”


Isn’t Frum basically admitting here that at the moment there is exactly one mainstream Republican candidate?

“We’ve got THREE sane candidates! And hopefully two of them will run!”

Frum’s not really bolstering his own argument there.

499 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:27:42am

re: #493 thedopefishlives

We blew up the majority of the chopper, but the tail section apparently survived the SEAL Team efforts to destroy the chopper.

500 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:28:46am

re: #497 NJDhockeyfan

re: #495 Walter L. Newton

re: #499 lawhawk

Ouch. That’s not so good.

501 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:31:01am

re: #498 BongCrodny

Romney’s cash raising helps his cause - raising $10.25 million yesterday doesn’t hurt. Can the other candidates do as well?

More to the point, which of the GOP purported and actual field has a ground game in the key opening states to jump ahead? Luap Nor is known to have a good ground game in NH and IA, but beyond that?

502 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:33:41am

re: #498 BongCrodny

Frum has spent the past few years trying to convince himself that everything’s ok. He’s really stretching at this point.

503 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:42:58am

Wind farm working a little too well….
Wind Farms In Pacific Northwest May Shut Down Due To Power Surplus

The manager of most of the electricity in the Pacific Northwest is running such a surplus of power from hydroelectric dams that it put wind farms on notice Friday that they may be shut down as early as this weekend.

The Bonneville Power Administration has more than enough electricity during a cold, wet spring that has created a big surge in river flows where hydroelectric dams are located. The agency responded by announcing its intentions to curtail wind power until the grid has more capacity, in a move likely to cost the industry millions of dollars.

The decision reflects an overlooked issue amid the push to add wind farms around the country: The capacity of power grids has not kept pace.

504 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:45:32am

Letter: What is Carter thinking?

Former President Jimmy Carter has caused quite a stir in Seoul with his recent trip to North Korea. He is known pejoratively as “Pyongyang’s mouthpiece.”

True enough, he issued an incredibly off-the-wall and over-the-top statement that “both South Korea and the U.S. should be held responsible for worsening starvation in the North, for they deliberately withhold food aid to the North Koreans purely for political and military reasons.

For crying out loud, where’s Carter’s outrage when the North viciously attacked South Korea, though unprovoked, twice last year, first blowing up a South Korean warship by a torpedo and then later firing upon the Yeonpyung Island to kill innocent people.

The Obama administration also refuses to consider giving any food assistance under the circumstances, unless they refrain from their hostile acts. According to one of the leading newspapers in Seoul, Kim Jong Il had a French veterinarian flown in just to take care of his own pets (dogs and horses) and his heir apparent is building a huge mansion in their capital, once again flaunting to the world their absolute, corrupt power and ill-gotten wealth all the while their poor people are starving to death.

Some politicians and pundits claim that Carter has been the worst president in U.S. history, but we have to leave that matter up to the historians. Yet, Carter often gets to be so officious in our foreign affairs that even his stature as ex-president might be adversely affected.

Did Carter really say that?

505 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:45:32am

I’m back. Interview went well. I am also one of four picked for a 2nd interview out of 40 applicants. And the money being offered is 25% more then I asked for.

506 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:46:04am

re: #503 Killgore Trout

It isn’t the wind farms that are working too well - it’s the hydro power that is running the surplus so the wind power isn’t needed.

It’s due to the higher than normal rainfall and snowmelt. Since it’s cheaper for the hydropower than wind power for generation purposes, the wind power is being asked to take a break until conditions improve.

Throw in the fact that the distribution system isn’t able to keep pace with power demands, and a regional surplus can’t be transferred to areas where the power is needed in an efficient manner.

507 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:46:22am

re: #505 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m back. Interview went well. I am also one of four picked for a 2nd interview out of 40 applicants. And the money being offered is 25% more then I asked for.

Excellent…good luck! I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

508 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:48:20am

re: #507 NJDhockeyfan

Excellent…good luck! I’ll keep my fingers crossed.

I impressed the guy because I wore my lucky Led Zeppelin shirt and jeans. :)

509 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:48:33am

re: #504 NJDhockeyfan

Carter may or may not be the worst President in recent history, but his track record as a former President is being cemented as being the worst. He simply can’t help himself trying to get involved in foreign affairs and making odious statements backing tyrannical regimes, dictators, despots, autocratic regimes, and terrorist groups.

It’s best if he simply stuck to building homes for Habitat for Humanity.

510 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:49:56am

re: #506 lawhawk

Also there isn’t enough storage technology in place to store the excess energy and then sell it to Nevada or California later this summer when demand spikes. We have a long ways to go yet with our energy policy.

511 Walter L. Newton  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:50:14am

re: #504 NJDhockeyfan

Letter: What is Carter thinking?

Did Carter really say that?

Are we really withholding food assistance from North Korea?

512 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:52:03am

Gonna run. BBL.

513 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:54:11am

re: #511 Walter L. Newton

Are we really withholding food assistance from North Korea?

That would be news to me but I don’t have access to Jimmy Carte’s insiders either. They must be the same people who are giving him information on the poor plight of Palestinian victims from the evil Israelis too.

514 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:55:30am
515 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 8:56:21am

re: #510 Killgore Trout

Also there isn’t enough storage technology in place to store the excess energy and then sell it to Nevada or California later this summer when demand spikes. We have a long ways to go yet with our energy policy.

Not that storing the energy is that easy in the first place. Cost-effective energy buffers have been a massive hurdle to using non-uniform power technologies like solar and wind.

516 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:01:05am

re: #510 Killgore Trout

Also there isn’t enough storage technology in place to store the excess energy and then sell it to Nevada or California later this summer when demand spikes. We have a long ways to go yet with our energy policy.

There is a quaint and simple way to store surplus wind energy: run an air compressor and store the mechanical energy that way, and then release the compressed air to run the turbines when the wind dies down…

517 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:01:30am

Gadhafi’s New Weapon: Floating Bombs Filled With Dummies


Fill an inflatable boat with explosives. Crew it with mannequins. Send it out to sea in search of a humanitarian aid ship to destroy. Behold the desperate ingenuity of Moammar Gadhafi.

NATO ships enforcing the maritime embargo on the Libyan dictator noticed a curiosity in the Mediterranean near the rebel redoubt of Misurata early Monday morning. Two rigid-hull inflatable boats appeared to head toward the Misurata port. When NATO warships and choppers approached, one of them turned and broke away. The other bobbed on course.

What was aboard? Approximately 1 ton of explosives, according to a NATO press release, and “two human mannequins.” NATO blew up the boat with small-arms fire.

518 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:02:21am

re: #516 ralphieboy

There is a quaint and simple way to store surplus wind energy: run an air compressor and store the mechanical energy that way, and then release the compressed air to run the turbines when the wind dies down…

Or use the electricity to make hydrogen for fuel cells.

519 iossarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:04:10am

re: #518 Killgore Trout

Or use the electricity to make hydrogen for fuel cells.

Or use the 80%+ of electric cars that will be parked at any given time as a massive capacitor (you can run your house off your Chevy Volt if the need arises).

Or, of course, all of the above.

520 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:12:14am

If we want to go to a decentralized renewably energy grid, we will really have to rework the entire distribution system, which is currently designed around centralized production.

And if we want electric automobiles, we will have to redesign our traffic and fuel supply infrastructure, all of which will require government intervention.

And I as as armed Sovereign Citizen will not put up with it…

/

521 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:15:03am

It’s that time of year again…

Here we go again—UC Irvine’s annual propoganda parade

Here we go again. It’s spring, and for the Muslim Student Union (MSU) at UC Irvine (UCI), spring means it’s time for the MSU’s annual weeklong propaganda parade of hate programs against Israel and calls for punishing it with boycotts and divestment. Forget the real Arab spring, during which masses of people have been risking their lives to demonstrate against dictatorial rule. The MSU is obsessed with only one issue: convincing students that the democratic state of Israel is evil, has no right to exist, and should be punished and dismantled.

Over the past ten years, UCI’s MSU propaganda carnival has featured repeat guests and occasionally new ones. But the speakers are interchangeable. Their messages are always the same. They ignore the dictatorial Middle Eastern governments that oppress their own citizens. Instead, they are cheerleaders for Israel’s destruction. On campus, students informally refer to the MSU annual event as “hate week.”

This year is no different. UCI’s MSU has not been affected by faculty, community, and student protests about the factual distortions, extremism, and anti-Semitism of its past events. Nor has the MSU moderated despite its temporary suspension last fall. (The UCI administration disciplined the group for conspiring to prevent Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren from speaking on campus in February 2010 and then lying about the premeditated action, which it tried to pass off as “spontaneous” responses during the ambassador’s speech.)

True, the blatantly anti-Semitic, demagogic Abdel Malik Ali wasn’t invited, though he has been a regular in the past. (Last year, StandWithUs CEO Roz Rothstein taped him calling for an Intifada on campus, warning students not to socialize with Jewish students, and avowing his support for Hezbollah and Hamas. This was too much even for UCI’s liberal administration.) True, there aren’t bloody israeli flags or placards equating Israel with Nazis. True, the title of this year’s events is less inflammatory. Instead of a title that accuses Israel of “genocide” or a “holocaust,” like titles used in past years, the title, “Palestine: An Invisible Nation,” seems to shift the spotlight to the Palestinians. But this apparent moderation is a deception.

The changes are superficial. Despite the seemingly more moderate title, the focus will not be on Palestinians or what they must do to build a viable state and coexist peacefully alongside Israel. Consider the preposterousness of the title. There is nothing “invisible” about the Palestinians or the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. They have held center stage in the world for decades. Instead, as always, the MSU speakers will use the Palestinians as a rhetorical device to launch another all-out assault on Israel and Israel’s supporters.

Vicious hate continues out of UC Irvine. Shocka!

522 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:15:10am

Q&A: Jon Huntsman

You also believe in climate change, right?

This is an issue that ought to be answered by the scientific community; I’m not a meteorologist. All I know is 90 percent of the scientists say climate change is occurring. If 90 percent of the oncological community said something was causing cancer we’d listen to them. I respect science and the professionals behind the science so I tend to think it’s better left to the science community – though we can debate what that means for the energy and transportation sectors.

523 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:20:43am

Syrian infiltrator reached Tel Aviv

A Syrian infiltrator who crossed illegally into Israel during the violent Nakba protests said Hezbollah pressured Assad to allow the demonstration.

Interviewed on Channel 10 Monday night, Hissan Hijazi, 28, said he contacted a reporter from the television network whom he had seen on the Hezbollah satellite station al-Manar.

Hijazi said Hezbollah pressured Syrian President Bashar Assad to agree to the massive protests held Sunday during which hundreds trampled the border fence with Israel and fled into the Druze town of Majdal Shams.

524 laZardo  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:22:02am
525 Lidane  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:23:37am

re: #522 Killgore Trout

Q&A: Jon Huntsman

You also believe in climate change, right?

He sounds far too reasonable. The base will never go for it. They want red meat and stories about how Obama is evil incarnate.

526 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:23:45am

re: #523 NJDhockeyfan

Syrian infiltrator reached Tel Aviv

This was a media stunt by Syria, aided and abetted by Israeli leftists.

527 iossarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:25:25am

re: #521 NJDhockeyfan

Reading that article, one has to wonder what non-superficial changes to the MSU program would look like.

So they disinvite a “hateful, demagogic” character. But he’s been invited in the past! And this is, again, just a “superficial” change.

The MSU program may well be hateful, I am not familiar with it in the slightest. But articles like this don’t really help either.

528 Ericus58  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:25:32am

re: #514 lawhawk

RIP Harmon Killebrew.

Damn. He only announced last week he was ending treatment.
Class guy.

530 iossarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:26:37am

re: #529 Lidane

Allen West Slams Newt Gingrich’s Poll Test Proposal: ‘That’s [What] My Parents Had To Contend With’

Black Republican Discovers Republicans Don’t Like Black People Shock

531 Kronocide  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:26:47am

re: #525 Lidane

He sounds far too reasonable. The base will never go for it. They want red meat and stories about how Obama is evil incarnate.

Add in ‘so-called global warming’ and something about Al Gore.

Huntsman won’t make it: what makes him look better to me is detrimental to ‘so-called’ conservatives.

532 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:28:41am

re: #528 Ericus58

Damn. He only announced last week he was ending treatment.
Class guy.

Yeah, when he made that announcement, the broadcasters for Fox Sports North (almost all former Twins) were going on about what a class act he was, one of the “nicest guys to ever play the game of baseball.” He will be missed.

534 Lidane  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:35:45am
535 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:36:25am

Ughh…horrifying news out of Syria:

Mass Graves Found in Syria, Residents Say

Residents near Syria’s southern city of Daraa claim they have found two separate mass graves containing up to 30 bodies as the Syrian government denies it, according to Reuters.

A Syrian Interior Ministry official dismissed reports about a mass grave in Daraa as “completely baseless.” The unnamed official, quoted by state-run news agency SANA, said Tuesday that the “allegations came in the context of the campaign of provocation, slander and fabrication” against Syria.

This comes as Syrian government agents chased students who were protesting against President Bashar Assad’s regime at a northern campus Tuesday, beating them with batons and injuring dozens, a human rights activist said.

Mustafa Osso said the agents tried to break up a protest of about 2,000 students at the campus in Aleppo, Syria’s largest city. He said many of the students were chased into their dormitories and badly beaten.

536 Vicious Babushka  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:07am

re: #535 NJDhockeyfan

Ughh…horrifying news out of Syria:

Mass Graves Found in Syria, Residents Say

Pay no attention to that. Look over there! Zionists!

537 Winny Spencer  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:38:26am

re: #534 Lidane

Fiscal responsibility in action:

Romney: I won’t cut defense budget if I’m elected POTUS

Good. Go Mittens.

538 Lidane  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:40:51am

re: #537 Winny Spencer

Good. Go Mittens.

So you’d keep all the graft and waste that exists in the defense budget? You’d keep in outdated and obsolete weapons systems and projects that the Pentagon says it doesn’t need or want?

Believe it or not, it’s possible for us to cut the defense budget and still defend ourselves. We’re wasting billions, and the DoD knows it. Why not give them a chance to do something about it?

539 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:43:41am

re: #538 Lidane

Believe it or not, it’s possible for us to cut the defense budget and still defend ourselves. We’re wasting billions, and the DoD knows it. Why not give them a chance to do something about it?

HERESY!/

540 Varek Raith  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:44:45am

re: #538 Lidane

So you’d keep all the graft and waste that exists in the defense budget? You’d keep in outdated and obsolete weapons systems and projects that the Pentagon says it doesn’t need or want?

Believe it or not, it’s possible for us to cut the defense budget and still defend ourselves. We’re wasting billions, and the DoD knows it. Why not give them a chance to do something about it?

So…
Gold plated bombs are out of the question?
I am disappoint.
/

541 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:47:40am

Ex-IAEA official adds weight to Syria atom suspicion

Satellite images and other information indicate Syria was building a covert atomic reactor when Israel bombed the site in 2007, a former senior U.N. nuclear inspector said on Tuesday.

Olli Heinonen, who stepped down as deputy director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in 2010, made his remarks at a time when some argue that Damascus may soon be referred to the U.N. Security Council over the issue.

Now a senior fellow at Harvard University’s Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, he said “satellite imagery, procurement, and infrastructure information tend to point (in the) direction that the destroyed building at Dair Alzour was, indeed, a nuclear reactor at an advanced state of construction.”

542 BishopX  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:48:07am

re: #540 Varek Raith

Gold’s fine, we just gotta cut back on the diamond studs.

543 Kronocide  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:49:28am

We need the military contractors to have jobs, to support the economy. Even if there’s a little waste, no bigs.

It’s food stamps for weapons contractors to keep the economy moving.

It’s AMERICAFUCKYEAHism.

On a serious note, engage the military in validating the $ spent. Otherwise they get fighter jets with 2 engines they don’t feel they need.

544 Varek Raith  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:50:57am

re: #542 BishopX

Gold’s fine, we just gotta cut back on the diamond studs.

Well, they’re going to need some form of coolness devices.

545 laZardo  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:59:38am

re: #544 Varek Raith

Well, they’re going to need some form of coolness devices.

The SDI was supposed to give us sub-orbital ion cannons, dammit. ;_;

546 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 9:59:56am
547 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:00:27am

re: #545 laZardo

We’ve got ‘em (LOICs) and we’re prepared to use ‘em. /anonymous

548 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:03:32am

U.S. speeds up direct talks with Taliban

The administration has accelerated direct talks with the Taliban, initiated several months ago, that U.S. officials say they hope will enable President Obama to report progress toward a settlement of the Afghanistan war when he announces troop withdrawals in July.

A senior Afghan official said a U.S. representative attended at least three meetings in Qatar and Germany, one as recently as “eight or nine days ago,” with a Taliban official considered close to Mohammad Omar, the group’s leader.

State Department spokesman Michael A. Hammer on Monday declined to comment on the Afghan official’s assertion, saying the United States had a “broad range of contacts across Afghanistan and the region, at many levels. . . . We’re not going to get into the details of those contacts.”

The WH is accelerating direct talks with Taliban terrorists? What kind of deal could possibly be in progress?

549 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:04:57am

re: #397 RogueOne

Bernard-Henri Lévy Defends Accused IMF Director
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]

Shorter version:
“That attempted rape thing and slapping you in the face with his penis was all just a big misunderstanding…Oh, and it’s kinda your fault. You shouldn’t have come into the room alone.”

One of my friends reads the European press quite extensively, and he says there’s been a lot of chatter in the comments about how it was all the victim’s fault.

I take him with a slight grain of salt, since he’s a Dutch expat who feels about Europe sort of the way those ex-Muslim speakers do about Islam—but I assume the trend is there.

550 BishopX  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:05:47am

re: #548 NJDhockeyfan

U.S. speeds up direct talks with Taliban

The WH is accelerating direct talks with Taliban terrorists? What kind of deal could possibly be in progress?

You do realize that the only way out of Afghanistan is a negotiated solution?

551 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:05:50am

re: #405 RogueOne

O’ Canada:

Wrongfully arrested man sues Hamilton Police
[Link: chch.com…]

It only took them 3 days to realize he wasn’t white. “That’s great police work there Lou”

They don’t see color.

//

552 Political Atheist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:06:08am

re: #550 BishopX

You do realize that the only way out of Afghanistan is a negotiated solution?

Hard truth there.

553 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:07:24am

re: #550 BishopX

You do realize that the only way out of Afghanistan is a negotiated solution?

So we are to trust terrorists with a deal?

554 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:08:41am

re: #416 Ericus58

Bingo.
France has a solid history of not extraditing suspects back to the U.S. to stand trail.
And Domi knew that. So instead of a flight that day he had missed to another city within the U.S. - he hightailed it to the airport to leave the country.

I know some people won’t extradite to us in possible death penalty cases, but what’s the excuse when all we want is for him to stand trial on something that doesn’t carry it in any state?

555 iossarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:09:07am

re: #553 NJDhockeyfan

So we are to trust terrorists with a deal?

Did the UK trust Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland?

Not saying Sinn Fein is the same thing as the Taliban mind you. On the other hand exactly the same objections were raised at the time.

At some point you always have to sit down and talk (or accept endless war, one or the other).

556 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:10:59am

re: #425 Varek Raith

Hedgecock: Trump Dropped Out Because “Banks” Are “Nationalized,” Making It “Tough” For Obama Opponents To “Get A Loan”

Lolwhut

Now I know why these people piss me off so badly. They sound exactly like the crazy anti-Israel people. There’s a reason for everything, it’s always Israel/Obama’s fault, and it doesn’t matter if it’s crazy as hell, they say it with a straight face and tons of moral indignation.

557 BishopX  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:12:20am

re: #553 NJDhockeyfan

In the context of Afghanistan and Pakistan and for a given definition of terrorist, yes you trust them.

The Taliban is not AQ, they’re a theocratic militia with strong local and ethnic ties. When they take control a province they attempt to govern. In places they’re considered more trustworthy than the Afghan national government by the local populace (who may well be right).

558 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:12:28am

re: #450 Cannadian Club Akbar

That is fucking ridiculous.

Why?

559 Kronocide  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:12:32am

re: #553 NJDhockeyfan

So we are to trust terrorists with a deal?

Questions beget more questions when nobody has the answer.

560 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:13:42am

re: #457 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ever notice that people who beatdown another person are actually great people?

“She’s a very nice young lady who lives with her mom and is not the person the press has made her out to be,” Knepp said.

Read more: [Link: www.myfoxdc.com…]

I’m sure she also helps old ladies across the road, but she’s on tape beating the shit out of a stranger for being in the bathroom.

561 laZardo  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:14:19am

re: #556 SanFranciscoZionist

Now I know why these people piss me off so badly. They sound exactly like the crazy anti-Israel people. There’s a reason for everything, it’s always Israel/Obama’s fault, and it doesn’t matter if it’s crazy as hell, they say it with a straight face and tons of moral indignation.

They’re a bunch of extremely nationalistic, right-wing loonies that believe in the righteousness of their movement.

OH SHI-

562 SpaceJesus  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:16:20am

black metal chef: pad thai

563 Political Atheist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:17:01am

re: #553 NJDhockeyfan

So we are to trust terrorists with a deal?

Like it or not yes, but it’s limited trust based on a mutual goal, end the war. Past that who knows. Obviously we could re visit the place with any level of destruction should a serious violation of that trust occur.

564 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:17:58am

re: #511 Walter L. Newton

Are we really withholding food assistance from North Korea?

According to the WaPo, we suspended it two years ago, citing concerns about ‘transparency’. I suspect ‘transparency’ means a worry about whether our wheat ever gets to starving Koreans, or whether it just gets sold on the sly to pay for more platform designer shoes for Lil’ Kim.

565 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:19:27am
566 laZardo  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:19:57am

headan to bed

nighty

567 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:20:15am

re: #535 NJDhockeyfan

Ughh…horrifying news out of Syria:

Mass Graves Found in Syria, Residents Say

It’s getting really bad.

568 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:21:04am

re: #553 NJDhockeyfan

So we are to trust terrorists with a deal?

What are our alternatives at this point?

569 albusteve  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:23:36am

re: #568 SanFranciscoZionist

What are our alternatives at this point?

whatever the options are, they have been there for years…what a waste of lives

570 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:28:47am

re: #426 NJDhockeyfan

Wait til they figure out how to grow them with lead.

571 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:30:30am

re: #457 Cannadian Club Akbar

An animal. She should be in a cage.

Nice girl? *spit*

572 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:31:17am

re: #553 NJDhockeyfan

So we are to trust terrorists with a deal?

“Trust. But, verify.”
-Ronald Maximus

573 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:33:24am

4 U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan

The attack in southern Afghanistan caused an unusually high number of casualties for a single explosion, possibly reflecting the Taliban’s increasing use of more sophisticated homemade bombs.

They killed 4 of our finest. Yeah, we can trust them.
//

574 albusteve  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:36:37am

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

4 U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan

They killed 4 of our finest. Yeah, we can trust them.
//

I still say they cannot be defeated in a typical sense…they are homegrown, extra zealous maniacs who will always keep reappearing…it just can’t be done

575 Kragar  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:36:43am

We’re not going to send more troops or expand the rules of engagement to a “total war” scenario to get the Taliban, so our options are basically limited to negotiation at this point.

576 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:36:50am

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

Some Taliban groups are in cahoots with al Qaeda and Islamists, while others aren’t. They’re primarily tribal in organization/nature.

Divide and conquering them, by all available means - whether it’s militarily pounding them, buying them off, may be enough to enable the Afghan government to better control its side of the border. The problem stems from the Taliban on the Pakistani side, where they get to regroup and rearm against the Afghan forces and the ISAF/NATO/US forces. It’s the frontier provinces that have to be dealt with - and there’s no easy solution there - not with the Pakistanis barely able to control it if they even wanted to do so.

577 albusteve  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:37:29am

re: #575 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

We’re not going to send more troops or expand the rules of engagement to a “total war” scenario to get the Taliban, so our options are basically limited to negotiation at this point.

negotiating the fee

578 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:37:31am

re: #567 SanFranciscoZionist

It’s getting really bad.

Very bad indeed.

Residents say bodies lie in streets of Syrian border town

Bodies lie in the streets of the Syrian town of Tel Kelakh after black-clad gunmen loyal to President Bashar al-Assad moved in to crush unrest, refugees who fled into Lebanon say.

Speaking to Reuters after escaping their town, they said the assault began after residents of Tel Kelakh held protests on Friday calling for Assad’s overthrow.

Saturday, at least 10 buses arrived carrying security troops including Assad’s irregulars, known as “shabbiha,” wearing black clothes with red armbands. By Sunday, tanks surrounded the town and shelling started, residents said.

“Tanks and snipers fired haphazardly. They destroyed my house. They destroyed the water tank. The streets are flooded with water and dead bodies,” said Omar, a carpenter who walked for 3-1/2 hours with his wife and one-year-old twins to the Lebanese border town of Boqaya Sunday.

“I wouldn’t dare go back. Everyone who manages to escape thanks God a hundred times,” said Omar, who was staying at a home with dozens of other refugees from Tel Kelakh, some of whom said they were shot at as they crossed the border.

Residents of the town said they could not count the corpses in the streets because when they left their homes they were fired on.

579 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:37:32am

Don’t blame me, I voted for Bustamonte!

580 BishopX  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:38:05am

re: #576 lawhawk

The Pakistani army has more than enough manpower to control the frontier provinces. It’s just all deployed on the border with India.

581 Kragar  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:38:52am

re: #577 albusteve

negotiating the fee

Wouldn’t be the first time, won’t be the last.

582 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:40:39am

re: #580 BishopX

The Pakistani military hasn’t exactly distinguished itself when it’s attempted to pacify the frontier provinces, and their semi-autonomous nature actually enhances the role of the Taliban over those of the military that can occasionally sweep through.

The Pakistani government also plays the game where it uses the frontier provinces as a relief valve for the Islamists - better that they attack towards Afghanistan than to go after India, which has a comparable and capable military that can and would strike back hard against Pakistan proper (and with which the Pakistanis have fought several full fledged wars across the Line of Control).

583 albusteve  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:40:42am

re: #581 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wouldn’t be the first time, won’t be the last.

re: #581 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wouldn’t be the first time, won’t be the last.

it’s extortion….weaklings fall to extortion and I see no reason not to say goodbye and walk away from both countries

584 ReamWorks SKG  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:41:17am

re: #543 BigPapa

There’s a serious point here. Sadly, all this military spending has probably been a more efficient stimulus package than any contrived cash-for-clunkers or first-time-homebuyers-tax-credit gimmick that Congress can think up. These are salaries and training for many men and women, and contracts for American companies to make things.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not wanting this war to drag on….

585 Kragar  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:45:05am

re: #583 albusteve

re: #581 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

it’s extortion…weaklings fall to extortion and I see no reason not to say goodbye and walk away from both countries

Obviously, we should pursue an alternate solution.

Afghanistan has a population of roughly 30 million.

The US has 300 million.

Drafting 10% of our population should more than handle it.
/

586 BishopX  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:45:11am

re: #582 lawhawk

It’s unclear to me whether or not the northwest provinces have been a safety valve for islamists or a training ground for ISI funded proxies…

When you’re long term strategy is to use the instability caused by terrorist groups as a means of preventing encirclement it’s hard to tell what’s a safety valve and what’s the ISI backing people.

587 Political Atheist  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:48:11am

re: #585 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Draft the unemployed! 12 million right there.
//

588 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:48:12am

U.S. intel: Evidence at bin Laden compound points to contacts by ISI

The government of Pakistan, especially its military and intelligence service, are coming under intense criticism for the role or ignorance of the five-year residence of Osama bin Laden who lived near a military base 35 miles from Pakistan’s capital.

U.S. intelligence agencies have uncovered evidence that Pakistani intelligence and military officers appear to have been in contact with bin Laden at his hideout.
The information was gleaned from captured computers and flash drives as well as documents obtained during the raid.

U.S. intelligence officials believe the Pakistani military intelligence service ISI, and in particular its Directorate S, is the key source of support for Al Qaida and Taliban terrorists.

The unit is believed to be staffed by Pakistani military intelligence officers who share the Islamist extremist world view of Al Qaida, a view cultivated during the 1980s under Pakistani Prime Minister Zia ul-Haq.

589 simoom  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:50:17am

US Debt Holders Willing to Miss Payments: Rep. Ryan
[Link: www.cnbc.com…]

Holders of US government debt would be willing to miss payments “for a day or two or three or four” if it put the US in a stronger position to pay them later on, Rep. Paul Ryan told CNBC Tuesday.

“That’s what I’m hearing from most people,” said the Wisconsin Republican, chairman of the House Budget Committee. “What is more important is that you’re putting the government in a materially better position to be able to pay their bonds later on.”

Yeah… ///

I still don’t think there’s any chance these folks are going to actually force a default, but I’m increasingly worried they’re going to say enough idiotic things, in appeasing the base, that they’ll make the market start to think they might.

590 Kragar  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:51:05am

re: #587 Rightwingconspirator

Draft the unemployed! 12 million right there.
//

And we really only need rifles for half of them.

591 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:53:05am

China blocks release of report by UN experts on NKorea sanctions violations

China is blocking the release of a report by United Nations experts that accuses North Korea of violating U.N. sanctions.

The report says North Korea has violated a ban on the export and import of ballistic missile and nuclear-related items as well as conventional arms and luxury goods.

China’s U.N. Ambassador Li Baodong said Tuesday that Beijing needs more time to study the 81-page report.

Li spoke to reporters after a closed-door meeting of the Security Council. The meeting was to discuss the implementation of two rounds of sanctions against the North and the experts’ findings.

The report was obtained Monday by The Associated Press. It claims North Korea remains “actively engaged” in exporting ballistic missiles, components and technology to numerous customers in the Middle East and South Asia.

592 Targetpractice  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:53:16am

re: #589 simoom

US Debt Holders Willing to Miss Payments: Rep. Ryan
[Link: www.cnbc.com…]

Yeah… ///

I still don’t think there’s any chance these folks are going to actually force a default, but I’m increasingly worried they’re going to say enough idiotic things, in appeasing the base, that they’ll make the market start to think they might.

Really, it sounds like he’s making an excuse for why the GOP can afford to let the deadline come and go. Just like they’ve been making noise about how the Fed can take actions to stretch things out til August, so that they have more time to “debate.”

593 Four More Tears  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:53:29am

The “frothy mixture” inserts foot in mouth.

Santorum Says Torture Survivor McCain Doesn’t Understand Torture

594 BishopX  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:54:51am

re: #589 simoom

I’m afraid that they’re going to start believing their own propaganda.

The US has never missed a payment in it’s history. Now would not be a good time to start.

595 Kragar  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:56:09am

re: #593 JasonA

The “frothy mixture” inserts foot in mouth.

Santorum Says Torture Survivor McCain Doesn’t Understand Torture

596 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:57:08am

Birtherism-racism connections could not be more clear….
“Pro-White” Radio Host Claims He Helped Jerome Corsi With Birther Story

James Edwards writes today that Corsi “personally e-mailed me a few months ago for some assistance on a story closely related to the contents of this book. I was happy to oblige and work behind-the-scenes with both Dr. Corsi and World Net Daily on this matter.”

Edwards is the host of the “pro-white” radio program The Political Cesspool. The show’s website states: “We represent a philosophy that is pro-White … We wish to revive the White birthrate above replacement level fertility and beyond to grow the percentage of Whites in the world relative to other races.” The show regularly features a guest roster of “pro-white” figures like David Duke and “neo-Nazi activist April Gaede.”

597 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 17, 2011 10:58:17am

re: #596 Killgore Trout

Birtherism-racism connections could not be more clear…
“Pro-White” Radio Host Claims He Helped Jerome Corsi With Birther Story

I wonder if Pam Geller also coordinated efforts with them.

598 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:02:17am

Pulled a tick off of my hip yesterday. Today? There is a big 3” welt on my hip. That a bad thing? Am I going to get Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever? I feel fine, but, that might be a symptom.

599 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:03:17am

Netanyahu: Abbas distorting history

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas of “distorting known and well-documented historical facts” following the latter’s op-ed in the New York Times.

…In his article, Abbas addressed the Palestinians’ UN bid for statehood and noted that the last time the Palestinian issue took center stage at the General Assembly was in 1947, with the decision to divide Palestine.

“Shortly thereafter, Zionist forces expelled Palestinian Arabs to ensure a decisive Jewish majority in the future state of Israel,” Abbas said.

Netanyahu said in response that the Palestinians were the ones to reject the Partition Plan, while the Jews agreed to it.

“Arab armies assisted by Palestinian forces were those who attacked the Jewish state with the aim of destroying it. There is no mention of this in the article.”

The prime minister further added, “One can deduce that the Palestinian leadership views the establishment of the Palestinian state as a means to continue the conflict rather than end it.”

600 Bear  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:05:07am

re: #598 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Too bad you did not have the shots for that. Really hope that you do not have that.

601 Kragar  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:05:07am

re: #598 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pulled a tick off of my hip yesterday. Today? There is a big 3” welt on my hip. That a bad thing? Am I going to get Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever? I feel fine, but, that might be a symptom.

There are these people who look at things like that. Doctors I think you call them.

602 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:05:31am
603 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:08:13am

re: #601 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There are these people who look at things like that. Doctors I think you call them.

I’m three hours away from my doctor! (Uncontrollable flatulence begins)…

604 b_sharp  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:09:00am

re: #598 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pulled a tick off of my hip yesterday. Today? There is a big 3” welt on my hip. That a bad thing? Am I going to get Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever? I feel fine, but, that might be a symptom.

Did you get all the pieces? Could be an infection, so take precautions against sepsis.

605 Kragar  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:11:59am

re: #604 b_sharp

Did you get all the pieces? Could be an infection, so take precautions against sepsis.

Disinfecting, maybe a hot compress.

Check WebMD at least. Got insurance? My insurance has where you can call and talk to a RN anytime.

606 Lidane  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:13:04am

re: #593 JasonA

The “frothy mixture” inserts foot in mouth.

Santorum Says Torture Survivor McCain Doesn’t Understand Torture

Because a guy who spent five years at the Hanoi Hilton has no fucking clue what torture is like. Santorum is such an asshole. :-P

I may not have voted for McCain, but I still respect what he endured. And I sure as hell wouldn’t tell him how to define torture.

607 lawhawk  Tue, May 17, 2011 11:28:08am

re: #598 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Definitely get in to see a doc; it could be an infection but not necessary RMSF.

It could, however be Lyme disease, which has a telltale rash. around the bite site.

In any case, don’t mess around and go see a doc.

/not a doc, but do have first aid training…


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