Newt Gingrich is One Sorry Philandering Panderer

In the company of liars, Gingrich makes the mistake of telling the truth for once
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Newt Gingrich is on an apology tour of the Republican Tea Party, after his accurate description of the Ryan Medicare-killing plan as “right wing social engineering” drove the entire GOP into a frenzy: Newt Apologizes To Paul Ryan, Begs Democrats Not To Use His Own Quotes In Ads.

Newt Gingrich’s walk back tour reached its zenith Tuesday night, as Gingrich personally apologized to Paul Ryan for dismissing his Medicare plan as “right wing social engineering.” In an added twist, Gingrich claims that the merest mention of his extensive condemnation of Ryan’s budget from Sunday’s Meet The Press by Democrats is now out of bounds as a result.

“Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood, because I have said publicly those words were inaccurate and unfortunate,” he told FOX’s Greta Van Susteren. “”When I make a mistake, and I’m going to on occasion, I’m going to share with the American people that was a mistake becuase that way we can have an honest conversation.”

Yes, Gingrich is actually trying to say that reporting his words accurately would be a “falsehood.” The mind boggles at the pretzel illogic.

But telling the truth in the Republican Party? That will never do.

Also see
Chuck Schumer Gives Newt Gingrich A Medicare Death Hug

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337 comments
1 Obdicut  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:52:31am

He's really saying it's lying to quote him accurately.

What a desperate weirdo.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:53:59am

I would really like to know who convinced him that having dumped two wives for younger models was not going to be a problem.

3 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:54:13am

Gingrich: verb, to kill ones own candidacy almost immediately

4 iossarian  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:54:56am

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gingrich: verb, to kill ones own candidacy almost immediately

(2) To have intercourse with one's pet dog.

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:54:59am

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thought that was "Trumped".

6 iossarian  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:55:22am

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thought that was "Trumped".

(2) To break wind.

7 Four More Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:55:31am

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gingrich: verb, to kill ones own candidacy almost immediately

Still better than Santorum, if you ask me.

8 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:55:51am

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thought that was "Trumped".

Trumping is to hint you'll run to get more press.

9 BongCrodny  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:56:02am
"Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood, because I have said publicly those words were inaccurate and unfortunate,” he told FOX’s Greta Van Susteren.


Orwell might have called that "Newtspeak."

10 iossarian  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:56:33am

re: #9 BongCrodny

Orwell might have called that "Newtspeak."

Groan. Are we going to have to talk about GingSoc now?

11 Four More Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:57:17am

re: #8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trumping is to hint you'll run to get more press.

Gingrich was doing that long before Trump, by the way.

12 makeitstop  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:57:55am

The man clearly has no grasp on how the landscape has changed since he last ran for office.

A humbler man would bow out now and save himself the embarrassment. But Newtie is far too arrogant for that - he'll continue to self-immolate and will remain completely oblivious to the fact that he's now a laughingstock of Trump-like proportions.

13 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:59:04am

re: #11 JasonA

Gingrich was doing that long before Trump, by the way.

Yeah, but not to boost ratings for his TV show.

14 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:59:32am
Newt Gingrich’s walk back tour reached its zenith Tuesday night


Here's a little tutorial for Newt:

Youtube Video

Helps with the spin, too.

15 engineer cat  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:59:54am

will gingrich bow to his ego and spend gazillions hanging in there until well into the primaries until it is definitively proven that nobody wants to nominate him?

the idea is too ouchie to contemplate

16 Four More Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 10:59:56am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, but not to boost ratings for his TV show.

Right. Just to boost sales of his books and other merchandise.

17 nines09  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:00:13am

Newt pandering to the hyenas. Kneel before the Big Tent and beg forgiveness. What a show. What a farce. What a tool.

18 engineer cat  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:02:05am

we should start a newt campaign bow out betting pool

i say he stays in until after iowa and new hampshire like somekinda mrsa infection

19 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:03:52am

re: #15 engineer dog

will gingrich bow to his ego and spend gazillions hanging in there until well into the primaries until it is definitively proven that nobody wants to nominate him?

the idea is too ouchie to contemplate

I figure hubris will keep him in the race until at least the 3 round of primaries.

20 nines09  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:04:13am

I hope is totally delusional and stays right up to the point his own party completely turns on him. Drag all them skeletons right out into the bright national TV lights. Show Time!

21 Romantic Heretic  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:09:29am

I want to feel sorry for Newt and the GOP. Their cognitive dissonance levels must be painful.

But I can't.

22 thatthatisis  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:09:34am

re: #7 JasonA

Still better than Santorum, if you ask me.

Bob Kerry once said Santorum is Latin for ***hole.

23 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:10:03am

re: #22 thatthatisis

Bob Kerry once said Santorum is Latin for ***hole.

Frothy.

24 BongCrodny  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:10:47am

Perhaps Newt's campaign slogan could be "Winning!"

I'm seeing parallels between Newt and Mr. Adonis DNA.

25 jaunte  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:11:14am

re: #2 EmmmieG

I would really like to know who convinced him that having dumped two wives for younger models was not going to be a problem.

Now that he's rejected the previous two, he was never married to anyone but his present wife, and to say otherwise would be a lie.
...
In a brave newt world ruled by Poe's law, that needs a /

26 darthstar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:11:38am

"My name's Newt Gingrich and I'm a lying sack of feces...please vote for me."
Yeah, that'll work as a campaign slogan.

27 lawhawk  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:12:44am

re: #18 engineer dog

Naw... it's to feed his inflated ego. When he flames out spectacularly in NH and IA, he'll withdraw, but not before.

28 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:13:13am

re: #26 darthstar

"My name's Newt Gingrich and I'm a lying sack of feces...please vote for me."
Yeah, that'll work as a campaign slogan.

"My name is Newt Gingrich, and I do not support my own ads".

Paid for or not! by Gingrich for 2012. /

29 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:13:13am

Watching Newt implode is hilarious. It's also an object lesson.

Back in the day, Newt would have been seen as reasonable for rejecting the Ryan plan. Now he's a RINO and a traitor. The GOP now is not the same party that went after Clinton in the 90's. They've completely changed and drifted hard to the right.

30 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:13:50am

re: #26 darthstar

"My name is Newt Gingrich and any promise I make will be broken the second it becomes politically or personally expedient to do so."

31 Interesting Times  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:14:00am

re: #28 iceweasel

OT: Steaming pile of troll turd left on one of your pages.

32 makeitstop  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:14:15am

Balloon Juice linked to this Mother Jones article from 1984 yesterday. Mind you, these are quotes from Newt's friends:

Listen, for instance, to Lee Howell, who is still friendly with Gingrich: "Newt Gingrich has a tendency to chew people up and spit them out. He uses you for all it's worth, and when he doesn't need you anymore he throws you away. Very candidly, I don't think that Newt Gingrich has many principles, except for what's best for him, guiding him."

Or Chip Kahn, who ran two of his campaigns and has-known him for 16 years: "I don't know whether the ambitious bastard came before the visionary, or whether because he's a visionary, he realizes you have to be tough to get where you need to be."

Or Mary Kahn: "Newt uses people and then discards them as useless. He's like a leech. He really is a man with no conscience. He just doesn't seem to care who he hurts or why."

L.H. Carter was among Gingrich's closest friends and advisors until a falling out in 1979. "You can't imagine how quickly power went to his head," Carter says. The first time Gingrich flew back to the district, Carter remembers, he "pitched a fit" because Carter was still walking up to the gate to greet him when he arrived, rather than standing and waiting for him. Soon after, they were discussing a supporter who had complained to Gingrich about one of his votes. "I was sort of chiding him about not staying in touch with 'the people'," Carter says. "He turned in my car and he looked at me and he said, 'Fuck you guys. I don't need any of you anymore I've got the money from the political action committees, I've got the power of the office, and I've got the Atlanta news media right here in the palm of my hand. I don't need any of you anymore.'"

"The important thing you have to understand about Newt Gingrich is that he is amoral," says Carter. "There isn't any right or wrong, there isn't any conservative or liberal. There's only what will work best for Newt Gingrich.

"He's probably one of the most dangerous people for the future of this country that you can possibly imagine. He's Richard Nixon, glib. It doesn't matter how much good I do the rest of my life, I can't ever outweigh the evil that I've caused by helping him be elected to Congress."

He's a sociopath. Not exactly breaking news, but the quotes floored me.

33 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:14:36am

re: #29 Lidane

Watching Newt implode is hilarious. It's also an object lesson.

Back in the day, Newt would have been seen as reasonable for rejecting the Ryan plan. Now he's a RINO and a traitor. The GOP now is not the same party that went after Clinton in the 90's. They've completely changed and drifted hard to the right.

I wouldn't say they've completely changed. They were busy little bees when it came to Clinton conspiracy mongering. (murders! drugrunning!)

34 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:15:28am

re: #31 publicityStunted

OT: Steaming pile of troll turd left on one of your pages.

Good ol Buck.

35 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:15:41am

re: #31 publicityStunted

OT: Steaming pile of troll turd left on one of your pages.

I saw it and frankly it's not even worth responding to.

36 engineer cat  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:16:00am

i expect a daniels bubble pretty soon

a lot of people would like rick perry to run but he would be a 21st century dan quayle

37 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:16:04am

Politicians are always saying that they accept blame, accept consequences, etc.

Then they whine when there are consequences. It's as if they think that the consequences will be appearing on a few magazine covers and being the butt of a few late-night talk shows.

The consequences of being a jerk to your wife and kids, if you are an American politician, is losing your job. That's what you have to accept.

38 BongCrodny  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:16:32am

re: #31 publicityStunted

OT: Steaming pile of troll turd left on one of your pages.


Can we call it a "steaming pile of Buck?"

39 mr.fusion  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:17:09am

Gotta love this

ThinkProgress

In a June 2007 op-ed in the Des Moines Register, Gingrich wrote, “Personal responsibility extends to the purchase of health insurance. Citizens should not be able to cheat their neighbors by not buying insurance, particularly when they can afford it, and expect others to pay for their care when they need it.” An “individual mandate,” he added, should be applied “when the larger health-care system has been fundamentally changed.” [...]

In 2008′s “Real Change,” he wrote, “Finally, we should insist that everyone above a certain level buy coverage (or, if they are opposed to insurance, post a bond). Meanwhile, we should provide tax credits or subsidize private insurance for the poor.”

40 jaunte  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:18:12am

re: #39 mr.fusion

"Lies!"

41 iossarian  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:19:03am

re: #33 iceweasel

I wouldn't say they've completely changed. They were busy little bees when it came to Clinton conspiracy mongering. (murders! drugrunning!)

I think the change happened somewhere between the 60s and the early 80s.

Ford was probably the last Republican I can ever picture myself voting for (depending on the opposition).

42 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:19:19am

re: #33 iceweasel

I wouldn't say they've completely changed. They were busy little bees when it came to Clinton conspiracy mongering. (murders! drugrunning!)

They've changed in the sense that all of the positions that used to make a Republican a moderate/sane candidate are now considered treason. Romney is getting ripped a new one because he refuses to apologize for his health care plan that the GOP once supported, and Gingrich stepped in it for criticizing the full privatization of Medicare, which used to be a radical position, even in the GOP. Huntsman is getting grief just for admitting that AGW is real.

Things have also changed because technology changed and made all the conspiracy mongering that much more noticeable. Back in the 90's, the Clinton Chronicles garbage was relegated to newsletters and underground videos and the fringes. If it happened now, it would be just as viral as the birther and 9/11 troofer shit has been.

43 prairiefire  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:20:22am

re: #41 iossarian

I think the change happened somewhere between the 60s and the early 80s.

Ford was probably the last Republican I can ever picture myself voting for (depending on the opposition).

Robert Gates has commented that he thought Ford was very underrated as a president.

44 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:21:21am

re: #43 prairiefire

Robert Gates has commented that he thought Ford was very underrated as a president.

I think thats a fair statement.

45 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:21:44am

re: #42 Lidane

. Back in the 90's, the Clinton Chronicles garbage was relegated to newsletters and underground videos and the fringes. If it happened now, it would be just as viral as the birther and 9/11 troofer shit has been.

Not so. There were WSJ op-eds about the alleged Klinton murders and drugrunning. I can dig up at least one published there, anyway, if I have to.
The rest of your comment I agree with. Also the magnifying power of the Internet--the fringe can go mainstream now in a way they couldn't before.

46 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:21:51am

re: #38 BongCrodny

Can we call it a "steaming pile of Buck?"

sure, single out the guy and pile on...there must be some value to that , altho I don't know what it is...that post is not over the top IMO

47 lawhawk  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:23:39am

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Hi. My name is Newt Gingrich and I approve this message. My message will self destruct in 5 seconds.. 3...2.. oh crap!"

48 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:25:29am

re: #46 albusteve

sure, single out the guy and pile on...there must be some value to that , altho I don't know what it is...

He singles himself out.

that post is not over the top IMO

He's impugning law enforcement, saying the guy was arrested based on "zero actual investigation".

49 mr.fusion  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:26:04am

re: #36 engineer dog

i expect a daniels bubble pretty soon

a lot of people would like rick perry to run but he would be a 21st century dan quayle

Rush was talking him up earlier and I think Perry could definitely win the nomination

I still don't know why people are sleeping on Sarah though.....

Washington Post

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is sending direct mail solicitations nationwide to raise money for her political action committee titled “2012 Can’t Come Fast Enough,” a move that is certain to re-stoke talk of whether she will run for the presidential nomination.

50 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:27:00am

re: #45 iceweasel

Hm. I must have missed the WSJ stuff. I don't doubt you, BTW. I just wasn't reading the WSJ at the time, so I wouldn't have seen anything they published.

I remember people not really buying into the whole murder/drug running/rape accusations unless they had serious CDS. Most of the Republicans I knew thought Clinton was an asshole, at least until he started co-opting their agenda and balanced the budget. Then he became a smart, shrewd asshole. And the whole impeachment thing was just pointless.

Maybe it was the people I knew, then. I don't remember all the Clinton Chronicles nonsense gaining much traction.

51 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:28:09am

re: #48 wrenchwench

He singles himself out.

He's impugning law enforcement, saying the guy was arrested based on "zero actual investigation".

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong

52 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:30:56am

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong

He is very frustrating to interact with. I can see someone resorting to insults out of exasperation. He is rude, he may even be malicious. I would say he doesn't deserve your defense, but maybe he does, I don't know. I won't post to him any more, and starting now, I won't post about him either.

53 blueraven  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:32:58am

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong

You make a fair point. But consider if this had been a lefty ACLU type defending the accused. Do you really think Buck would have made the same argument?

54 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:33:22am

re: #52 wrenchwench

He is very frustrating to interact with. I can see someone resorting to insults out of exasperation. He is rude, he may even be malicious. I would say he doesn't deserve your defense, but maybe he does, I don't know. I won't post to him any more, and starting now, I won't post about him either.

It's taken me a long time to realise that I don't have to respond to baiting, or to everyone who posts to or about me. It's a much better strategy for a happy existence.

55 Obdicut  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:33:48am

re: #51 albusteve

There is evidence. There is the testimony of the maid and other women. That's evidence.

56 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:33:58am

Farah considering Legal action against Esquire

LOL.

57 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:35:25am

re: #55 Obdicut

There is evidence. There is the testimony of the maid and other women. That's evidence.

the Moon is made out of Green Cheese too....but that's not the point

58 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:35:59am

re: #56 Dreggas

Farah considering Legal action against Esquire

LOL.

In a press conference, Farrah hiked his pants up as far at they could go, wrapped his arms around his ahead and lisped "STOP MAKING FUN OF ME!"

59 BongCrodny  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:36:38am

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong


You're right; it was over the top and I shouldn't have worded it that way.

"A steaming pile of Buck droppings" would have been a much better choice of words.

60 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:37:05am

re: #56 Dreggas

Farah considering Legal action against Esquire

LOL.

Funny that someone who makes a living off the 1st amendment is pissing and moaning about it.

61 simoom  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:37:11am

I liked this comment posted over at thinkprogress:

Stephen Eldridge Today 10:50 AM
People are only allowed to quote what he means, not what he says.

Wait, no, that would be a disaster.

People are only allowed to quote what he wants you to think he means, not what he says or what he means.

10 people liked this.

62 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:38:05am

re: #50 Lidane

We moved in different circles. I spent a number of years in a very conservative industry, and I remember being truly blown away by the amount of utterly irrational hatred and invective I heard hurled toward the Clintons in those days. Had Hillary been elected, or received the nomination in '08, I would guarantee that the far RW's response would have been just as vicious -- in an offensively sexist, rather than racist, manner. (I'm sure there would have been a half-dozen books about Vince Foster, at a minimum, with several "written" by that corsi-bot.)

The far RW seems to have a problem with "uppity others".

63 Interesting Times  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:38:45am

re: #52 wrenchwench

He is very frustrating to interact with. I can see someone resorting to insults out of exasperation. He is rude, he may even be malicious.

He's basically calling this woman a liar, in his passive-aggressive, slimy way. That's what I found so infuriating and disgusting.

64 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:40:43am

If he had only made those statement before Congress he could have had them stricken from the Congressional Record...

I think Newt was counting on such a field of right-wing extremists up against him that he could position himself as the moderate, centrist candidate. But he is too centrist for the party to nominate him at this point...

65 gehazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:42:01am

re: #64 ralphieboy

But he is too centrist for the party to nominate him at this point...

True and utterly terrifying.

66 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:42:23am

Why not use the excuse already prepared for him by Rep. Senator Jon Kyl?

"Those unfortunate remarks I made on 'Meet the Press' were not intended to be a factual statement!

/

67 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:42:26am

re: #64 ralphieboy

If he had only made those statement before Congress he could have had them stricken from the Congressional Record...

I think Newt was counting on such a field of right-wing extremists up against him that he could position himself as the moderate, centrist candidate. But he is too centrist for the party to nominate him at this point...

Lol.
To the TP Newt is a moderate.
Shit, that makes me a commie!
Lol@wingnuts

68 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:42:35am

re: #64 ralphieboy

If he had only made those statement before Congress he could have had them stricken from the Congressional Record...

I think Newt was counting on such a field of right-wing extremists up against him that he could position himself as the moderate, centrist candidate. But he is too centrist for the party to nominate him at this point...

That could depend on how states vote during primaries. Some let people cross over party affiliations in the primary, others don't.

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:43:35am

re: #67 Varek Raith

Lol.
To the TP Newt is a moderate.
Shit, that makes me a commie!
Lol@wingnuts

I knew it!!

70 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:44:17am

re: #62 Slap

We moved in different circles. I spent a number of years in a very conservative industry, and I remember being truly blown away by the amount of utterly irrational hatred and invective I heard hurled toward the Clintons in those days.

Oh, I remember a lot of invective and hate being hurled at Clinton. I guess it was balanced out for me by the same people I knew being able to give him credit for things they agreed with, even if they thought he was an asshole the rest of the time.

That's why the reaction to Obama from the right has blown me away. It's on a level I don't remember ever seeing before.

Had Hillary been elected, or received the nomination in '08, I would guarantee that the far RW's response would have been just as vicious -- in an offensively sexist, rather than racist, manner. (I'm sure there would have been a half-dozen books about Vince Foster, at a minimum, with several "written" by that corsi-bot.)

Oh, they were outright begging for Hillary to get the nod so they could resurrect Whitewater, Vince Foster, Monica Lewinsky, and all that nonsense all over again. Rush even tried to game the system by getting his listeners to vote for her.

The far RW seems to have a problem with "uppity others".

Which is hilarious because they have no problem with uppity rich people as long as they're white Christian men.

71 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:44:30am

Damn!
That clap of thunder sounded like an explosion.

72 leftynyc  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:48:32am

re: #49 mr.fusion

Rush was talking him up earlier and I think Perry could definitely win the nomination

I still don't know why people are sleeping on Sarah though...

Washington Post

Money she'll take and spend on whatever saying "suckers" all the way to the bank. I don't think she has ever had the intention of running.

73 thatthatisis  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:49:54am

re: #71 Varek Raith

Damn!
That clap of thunder sounded like an explosion.

That was God. His patience is starting to wear thin.

74 leftynyc  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:50:27am

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong


I can't believe I'm saying this and frankly, it's giving me a headache but I agree completely. He isn't/wasn't being rude at all.

75 aagcobb  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:50:39am

Is Newt the most gaffelicious presidential candidate ever? He makes Biden look taciturn by comparison! I hope he stays in the race awhile, just so we can see how many complete policy reversals he can make before his candidacy implodes.

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:52:31am

brb

77 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:52:42am

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong

Well, for what it's worth....Rude or malicious is a hard one to pin down, given his history here. But: stubborn, non-responsive, deliberately inflammatory, indirectly argumentative, unoriginal, insulting, defensive, ill-informed and frequently passive-aggressive are all conclusions one could draw from his work here. And I understand, observing the back-and-forths over time between him and other posters (incl. the Big Cheese himself), how he can push people's buttons with the least effort and really piss them off.

You and the esteemed Mr Newton both have a knack for pissing people off, yet you've both established your thoughtfulness, flexibility, and insights to such an extent that you're credible when you post a thought. The poster in question has displayed no such redeeming characteristics.

So, I get it, in short. The dogpile business, I agree with ya in general. His comment was typical for him -- me, I'd reserve the dogpiling for those times he exceeds his established standards.

78 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:52:45am

Do not mock the wingnuts: WND's Joseph Farah May Sue Esquire Over Birther Parody

The magazine's parody claimed that Farah was recalling the WND-published book Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President, by Dr. Jerome Corsi, and giving refunds to anyone who already purchased a copy.

"Don't believe everything you read," Farah said in an interview with TPM on Wednesday.

"The only hint at the parody was the made up name of Jerry's book about the moon landing or something, and I had to do a double take and read it two or three times in astonishment before I even caught that," Farah said.

"But judging from the response of our peers at Politico and the Daily Caller and all the other media calling me, I think that went right by a lot of folks," Farah said. "And it certainly went by a lot of ordinary readers. I've been under siege here with people saying 'Why are you going after Corsi! What are you doing?'"

Farah said he's already exploring his legal options against the publication.

79 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:53:15am

re: #71 Varek Raith

Damn!
That clap of thunder sounded like an explosion.

A sound of distant thunder. Don't step on the butterfly.

80 William of Orange  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:54:34am

Not using a quote, even if it's in the open??!! Come on! The Democrats can also use tactics of the right-wing play book of rules:

"Take everything out of context if you can."

Not necessary in this case cause the quote is accurate.

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:55:43am

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong

I'm just baffled that anyone considers Ben Stein's opinion on anything at all, he's always wrong, and constantly makes shit up

82 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:58:03am

re: #81 WindUpBird

I'm just baffled that anyone considers Ben Stein's opinion on anything at all, he's always wrong, and constantly makes shit up

You will not be surprised to hear that Limbaugh considers Stein a dear friend and ally.

83 okonkolo  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:58:54am

Someone at MSNBC today compared Gingrich's campaign to Bruce Willis' character in The Sixth Sense: Newt seems to be the only person who doesn't know his campaign is dead.

84 aagcobb  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:59:32am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

It just goes to show that its almost impossible to parody a publication as crazy as wingnut drooly.

85 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 11:59:51am

re: #83 okonkolo

Someone at MSNBC today compared Gingrich's campaign to Bruce Willis' character in The Sixth Sense: Newt seems to be the only person who doesn't know his campaign is dead.

Americans seem to feel that to be the President requires a minimum amount of moral fiber.

86 Interesting Times  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:00:32pm

re: #77 Slap

Well, for what it's worth...Rude or malicious is a hard one to pin down

I think it's rude and malicious to insult people's intelligence. In other words, if I read a comment and think, "Wow, you honestly believe I'm dumb enough to fall for that?", I'll downding (or if it's really bad, report it).

re: #81 WindUpBird

I'm just baffled that anyone considers Ben Stein's opinion on anything at all, he's always wrong, and constantly makes shit up

In wingnut world, that feature, not bug.

87 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:01:24pm

re: #84 aagcobb

It just goes to show that its almost impossible to parody a publication as crazy as wingnut drooly.

I keep waiting for Pam Geller to Derp her 2 cents on the latest birther developments but even she's smrt enough to stay away from it these days.

88 aagcobb  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:01:40pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

What I don't get is why is Stein speaking up for a European socialist? Doesn't he personify the very leftist elitists that teabaggers loathe?

89 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:02:54pm

re: #88 aagcobb


He did it because he loves Europe so much...

90 S'latch  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:04:32pm

Newt Gingrich was never going to be a successful candidate anyway. Without regard to his current mouth-footing and up-sucking, they guy has way too much baggage to even get nominated.

91 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:05:56pm

I really think he was counting on such a bevvy of far-right nutbags running for the nomination that he could position himself as the sane centrist. It might've worked under certain circumstances.

92 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:06:33pm

re: #88 aagcobb

What I don't get is why is Stein speaking up for a European socialist? Doesn't he personify the very leftist elitists that teabaggers loathe?

He apparently identifies with him in some way. I think if a particular leftist elitist socialist controls a large enough pile of money, it outweighs mere political categories.

93 What, me worry?  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:08:17pm

re: #83 okonkolo

Someone at MSNBC today compared Gingrich's campaign to Bruce Willis' character in The Sixth Sense: Newt seems to be the only person who doesn't know his campaign is dead.

lol But Newt can be awfully entertaining. Especially when he's at the top of his hypocrisy. Remember that Newt led the Clinton impeachment while simultaneously getting his own freak on.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

94 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:08:55pm

Wow...I mean Just WOW...

95 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:10:33pm

re: #93 marjoriemoon

lol But Newt can be awfully entertaining. Especially when he's at the top of his hypocrisy. Remember that Newt led the Clinton impeachment while simultaneously getting his own freak on.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

IIRC, didn't Larry Craig do the same? Or was it the dude from Louisiana?

96 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:10:46pm

re: #94 Dreggas

Wow...I mean Just WOW...

"Armed sheep with cocktail napkins would have overcome a lesser man than Newt. "

That's GOLD, Jerry, GOLD!

97 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:11:18pm

re: #94 Dreggas

Wow...I mean Just WOW...

Looks like Barrett Brown is writing Newt's press releases.

98 uncah91  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:11:42pm

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong

Buck does a darn good job of completely ignoring valid points that other people make and I haven't seen him acknowledge valid counter-points.

That is what frustrates people and gets him troll accusations, imho.

Doesn't excuse ad-hominem attacks, though.

99 What, me worry?  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:13:15pm

re: #95 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, didn't Larry Craig do the same? Or was it the dude from Louisiana?

Not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised. Newt was speaker at the time he pointed his own guilty finger at Clinton, I believe so he certainly had a high position where people would listen to him.

100 darthstar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:14:30pm

re: #94 Dreggas

Wow...I mean Just WOW...

It's good to know his staffers have zero self-awareness as well...christ, they make Donald Trump look like a psychologically stable person.

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:14:31pm

I wish I was married so I could have an affair!!
/wait, that's the wrong reason!!

102 Bulworth  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:14:51pm
Gingrich claims that the merest mention of his extensive condemnation of Ryan’s budget from Sunday’s Meet The Press by Democrats is now out of bounds as a result.

Typical librule media. Trying to quote Newt's actual words on a TV show outside the context of Newt's previous support for Obamacare like individual mandates in 1993.

103 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:14:58pm

I even had some respect for Newt when he retired from the House in 1998, he seemed to be taking some responsibility for his role in the party's decline.

But I should have realized it had more to do with tactics than with integrity...

104 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:15:27pm

re: #96 iceweasel

all that needed was a "Was it over when the nazi's bombed pearl harbor?" moment...

105 Four More Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:16:17pm

Here's the whole Stewart-O'Reilly interview.

[Link: www.indecisionforever.com...]

106 darthstar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:16:25pm

re: #95 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, didn't Larry Craig do the same? Or was it the dude from Louisiana?

Dude from Louisiana was shitting himself in adult diapers and getting cleaned by prostitutes. Craig was blowing strangers in airport bathrooms. One of those two activities leads to resigning from office.

107 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:17:10pm

re: #106 darthstar

Dude from Louisiana was shitting himself in adult diapers and getting cleaned by prostitutes. Craig was blowing strangers in airport bathrooms. One of those two activities leads to resigning from office.

with the age of some of our elected officials "shitting in ones diapers" may actually be a job requirement.

//

108 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:17:32pm

re: #94 Dreggas

Wow...I mean Just WOW...

From Newt's press secretary:

..But out of the billowing smoke and dust of tweets and trivia emerged Gingrich...

The Mighty Newt survives Tweets and Trivia!! All Hail!!

109 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:18:43pm

Pondering deeply on the character of our elected officials, I am now about to order "Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Killer."

It's more believable than "I have a wide stance," or "because I loved my country so much."

110 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:19:22pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

From Newt's press secretary:


The Mighty Newt survives Tweets and Trivia!! All Hail!!

How come my tweets just sit there on the screen? They don't billow smoke, or dusty, or sparkly confetti. They don't even dance or sing.

111 Ming  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:19:35pm

This reminds me of a month or so ago, when Senator John Kyl changed the Congressional Record, so it no longer reflects what he actually said, about 90% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions. Just like the Soviets: if truth is inconvenient, get rid of the truth.

112 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:20:07pm

Pakistan arrests 'senior al-Qaeda operative'

The army said his arrest was a "major development in unravelling the al-Qaeda network operating in the region".

Officials later told the BBC that Qasim was key courier between Osama Bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:20:16pm

re: #46 albusteve

sure, single out the guy and pile on...there must be some value to that , altho I don't know what it is...that post is not over the top IMO

It's the frustration quality. Stein is indefensible. He knows that, so he's playing on 'the reports about DSK's past behavior are all hearsay'. Yep, they are, but you know and I know that Buck would completely 180 this if the perp were being defended by George Soros or the Ford Foundation. And yet, he claims to be entirely even-handed.

114 darthstar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:20:18pm

Top McCain aid: Santorum dumbest Senator in 20 years.

Well, that's going to leave a mark.

115 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:20:30pm

re: #48 wrenchwench

He singles himself out.

He's impugning law enforcement, saying the guy was arrested based on "zero actual investigation".

Ain't no way.

116 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:21:38pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

Pakistan arrests 'senior al-Qaeda operative'

Getting #2 would kinda rule.

117 Four More Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:22:28pm

re: #116 Cannadian Club Akbar

Getting #2 would kinda rule.

Yeah, I'm tired of getting all of these #3s...

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:23:20pm

re: #117 JasonA

Yeah, I'm tired of getting all of these #3s...

Add in the one eyed leader...

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:24:15pm

re: #51 albusteve

so what?...people act as if he's rude or malicious...he's just opinionating on what he thinks and doesn't fit in to somebody's standards...so he gets called a shit pile?...excuse me, but that's just wrong

He's never rude, but he is nearly preternaturally exasperating.

120 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:24:54pm

re: #117 JasonA

Yeah, I'm tired of getting all of these #3s...

These couriers can lead to bigger fish. It's also worth noting that the Pakistanis have him so they're probably tuning him up pretty good. He'll talk.

121 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:25:03pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

I'm just baffled that anyone considers Ben Stein's opinion on anything at all, he's always wrong, and constantly makes shit up

Skip ahead to about 4:00 on this video as Ben Stein tells people what a great undervalued deal the falling financial stocks are, and how the sub-prime crash is just a "tiny, tiny blip." (Days before Lehman fell and took the market with it for years).

Peter Schiff is not exactly a rocket scientist, but he did call this one exactly right, but then again so did I when I sold all my property in Anchorage in May of 2006 at the very top of the market. You didn't need to be economist or stock analyst to see what was coming when the housing prices had gone beyond the reach of the majority of the buyers without financially questionable "time bomb" loans.

I sold out because I knew prices simply could not and would not go any higher, I didn't foresee how bad the crash would be, but I did know that at minimum prices would stagnate. I told my aunt to sell too when she asked what I thought, she lost close to $500,000 potential profit because she waited another six months against my advice and had properties on the market for 18 months or more only selling when she had discounted them more than 35%.

Anyone involved in any type of property investment with a normal or higher I.Q. should have seen that we were at the top. I think too many people relied on people like Ben Stein and his fellow "analysts" to tell them when to get out, something that they were never going to do, it might have hurt their ratings. :(

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:25:28pm

re: #55 Obdicut

There is evidence. There is the testimony of the maid and other women. That's evidence.

You know, real evidence. Not just women saying stuff to get men in trouble.

//Of course, we don't know what they have. We just know they had enough to make an arrest.

123 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:25:55pm

re: #115 SanFranciscoZionist

Ain't no way.

Okay, so let's say a young woman, maybe, Buck's daughter (if he has one) is working in an office. She goes back into the file room to file, or pull files, or just generally do her job as required.

A male follows her in, grabs her tush, or her breasts, or another part of her body that is generally considered off-limits for random touching. He makes crude and insulting remarks.

He has left no actual evidence, has he? Nobody else saw. The file room is probably not video monitored.

Should the young woman just take it? All she has as evidence is her word.

124 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:26:13pm

re: #121 ausador

Youtube Video

Crap, it would help if I posted the link to the video wouldn't it?

PIMF...sigh

125 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:26:16pm

re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist

You know, real evidence. Not just women saying stuff to get men in trouble.

//Of course, we don't know what they have. We just know they had enough to make an arrest.


In some countries they would need four women's testimonies to balance out one male witness...

126 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:26:53pm

Meghan McCain on Santorum


Meghan first shot back at Santorum on Tuesday with her tweet,”Rick Santorum telling my father doesn’t know about torture is like Carrot Top telling Lebron James he doesn’t know about basketball.”

Upon clarifying that she didn’t mean to insult the redheaded comedian, the 26-year-old compared Santorum to “Jersey Shore” reality star Jenni “JWoww” Farley.

“Rick Santorum lecturing my father about torture is like JWOWW lecturing Malcom Gladwell about writing,” McCain wrote.

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:28:16pm

re: #88 aagcobb

What I don't get is why is Stein speaking up for a European socialist? Doesn't he personify the very leftist elitists that teabaggers loathe?

Loyalty between rich men who should be above the law trumps everything.

128 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:28:21pm

re: #123 EmmmieG

another part of her body that is generally considered off-limits for random touching.

Are there any parts of the body that are NOT off-limits for random touching?

129 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:30:38pm

re: #128 Alouette

Are there any parts of the body that are NOT off-limits for random touching?

I wouldn't freak out about someone tapping me on the shoulder to get my attention.

130 aagcobb  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:30:40pm

re: #109 EmmmieG

Pondering deeply on the character of our elected officials, I am now about to order "Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Killer."

It's more believable than "I have a wide stance," or "because I loved my country so much."

How about "I'm hiking the Appalachian Trail?"

131 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:31:14pm

re: #128 Alouette

Are there any parts of the body that are NOT off-limits for random touching?

Well see there is random touching and then specific touching... ;)

/

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:31:33pm

re: #129 EmmmieG

I wouldn't freak out about someone tapping me on the shoulder to get my attention.

But that's not random, that's a socially-accepted physical contact. If it turns out they didn't want your attention, they were just touching, it gets weird and creepy.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:32:13pm

re: #130 aagcobb

How about "I'm hiking the Appalachian Trail?"

Oh God, that was weird. Not so much the affair, as the vanishing act.

134 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:32:48pm

bbiab

135 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:33:36pm

"I brought him along to help carry the luggage and to talk about the Bible."

136 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:33:45pm

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

But that's not random, that's a socially-accepted physical contact. If it turns out they didn't want your attention, they were just touching, it gets weird and creepy.

As weird and creepy as just reaching towards them and softly repeating, "I'm not touching you. I'm nooot toouching yooouuu."?

137 Bulworth  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:33:48pm
Yes, Gingrich is actually trying to say that reporting his words accurately would be a “falsehood.” The mind boggles at the pretzel illogic.

In Newt's defense, maybe what he means is that his remarks on MTP or whatever it was, were not those of Newt speaking Ex Cathedra. They were not the infallible Newt speaking. Now that he has had a chance to review the record, he is now backpeddaling making his Ex Cathedra judgment of Ryan's voucherized Medicare and the terrible librewl media.

138 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:34:49pm

Ignore that man behind the curtain!

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:35:52pm

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

As weird and creepy as just reaching towards them and softly repeating, "I'm not touching you. I'm nooot toouching yooouuu."?

No, that's weirder.

140 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:36:13pm

Glenn Beck begins using the Holocaust to sell his 'Restoring Courage' rally


According to Beck, the Jews are in danger now just as they were in the 1930’s at the beginning of the Holocaust. Beck claims that his rally will give the rest of the world the “courage” to stand by Israel, as opposed to the apathy shown toward the Jews before World War II. Beck even invokes the poem from Martin Niemoller, who made famous the phrase “First they came for” in warning about the folly of letting a dictator prey on one group in order to try and spare another group. Beck misquotes the poem by saying it begins with "First they came for the Jews," when actually begins it with "First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak because I wasn't a communist." Beck frequently claims the communists are part of a global conspiracy to establish an Islamic caliphate.

Implicit in Beck’s argument is the idea that one must attend his rally in order to avoid the guilt of letting yet another Holocaust occur. Beck essentially claims that his audience must buy the “package” he is selling in order to protect an entire race of people.

141 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:36:14pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

He's never rude, but he is nearly preternaturally exasperating.

Nice turn of phrase, there!

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:36:21pm

re: #137 Bulworth

In Newt's defense, maybe what he means is that his remarks on MTP or whatever it was, were not those of Newt speaking Ex Cathedra. They were not the infallible Newt speaking. Now that he has had a chance to review the record, he is now backpeddaling making his Ex Cathedra judgment of Ryan's voucherized Medicare and the terrible librewl media.

I think you have to be the Pope for that.

143 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:36:54pm

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

No, that's weirder.

.
.
.

I'm not touching you.

144 Four More Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:37:32pm

re: #137 Bulworth

In Newt's defense, maybe what he means is that his remarks on MTP or whatever it was, were not those of Newt speaking Ex Cathedra. They were not the infallible Newt speaking. Now that he has had a chance to review the record, he is now backpeddaling making his Ex Cathedra judgment of Ryan's voucherized Medicare and the terrible librewl media.

So in Star Wars terms, on Meet the Press it was Expanded Universe Newt? Not canon?

145 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:37:48pm

Does it feel like I'm in you?

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:38:07pm

re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Glenn Beck begins using the Holocaust to sell his 'Restoring Courage' rally

My husband is going on a little tear right now. "Of course, the main thing the Israelis lack is courage. They're so timid, they're like the fainting goats of the Middle East. Thank God, Glenn Beck is going to teach them to be courageous."

147 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:38:24pm

re: #144 JasonA

So in Star Wars terms, on Meet the Press it was Expanded Universe Newt? Not canon?

One dangerous step away for Fan Slash Fiction Newt.

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:38:42pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband is going on a little tear right now. "Of course, the main thing the Israelis lack is courage. They're so timid, they're like the fainting goats of the Middle East. Thank God, Glenn Beck is going to teach them to be courageous."

"Such a delicate people, the Israelis."

149 Sionainn  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:38:47pm

re: #126 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Meghan McCain on Santorum

That just reminded me...my little girls had their picture taken with Carrot Top two weekends ago, lol.

150 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:39:19pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

they're like the fainting goats of the Middle East

LOL

151 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:40:21pm

re: #129 EmmmieG

I wouldn't freak out about someone tapping me on the shoulder to get my attention.

That's not random.

152 Simply Sarah  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:42:11pm

re: #151 Alouette

That's not random.

No, but some dude grabbing my ass wouldn't truly be random, either.

153 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:42:29pm

re: #152 Simply Sarah

No, but some dude grabbing my ass wouldn't truly be random, either.

True.

154 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:43:11pm

Unless you were at a club, and he was just randomly grabbing any ass he could find. Then it would be inappropriate, but not random.

Or, he could have been reaching for his girlfriend's ass, and missed.

155 Stanghazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:43:25pm

OMG Hilarious.

Be sure to scroll through the slide show

[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

156 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:43:32pm

re: #154 SanFranciscoZionist

Unless you were at a club, and he was just randomly grabbing any ass he could find. Then it would be inappropriate, but not random.

Or, he could have been reaching for his girlfriend's ass, and missed.

Inappropriate, BUT random.

Whatever. You get my drift.

157 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:43:33pm

re: #152 Simply Sarah

No, but some dude grabbing my ass wouldn't truly be random, either.

Unless Alien Hand Syndrome were involved.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:44:04pm

re: #155 Stanley Sea

OMG Hilarious.

Be sure to scroll through the slide show

[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

It's a cute photo.

159 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:44:06pm

re: #123 EmmmieG

Okay, so let's say a young woman, maybe, Buck's daughter (if he has one) is working in an office. She goes back into the file room to file, or pull files, or just generally do her job as required.

A male follows her in, grabs her tush, or her breasts, or another part of her body that is generally considered off-limits for random touching. He makes crude and insulting remarks.

He has left no actual evidence, has he? Nobody else saw. The file room is probably not video monitored.

Should the young woman just take it? All she has as evidence is her word.

This is the kind of stuff that gets handed to juries all the time*. When the only primary witness is also the complaintant the case essentially boils down to whether the jury considers the witness credible. And the lawyering centers on the same point - and you see some very sleazy behavior and character assassination out of both the defense and the prosecution.

* - I served as an alternate on a criminal case less than a month ago. It was aggravated assault, not an office sexual assault, but the particulars are essentially the same. Which side do you believe? And I saw the prosecution playing all the emotional gaming with the jury trying to play up the witness and play down the defendants. And the defense lawyers essentially badgering the witness and trying to get him to blow up on the stand - including some very blatantly abusive questions that they knew would immediately be objected to. :p

160 dragonfire1981  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:45:47pm

Newt Gingrich - Change you CAN'T believe in

161 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:46:18pm

Barely out of the gate and already Newt is falling flat on his face for all to see. Perhaps he needs a new calendar, as he seems to think that it's still '95 and he's still the greatest thing to his party since sliced breath.

162 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:47:35pm

re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Glenn Beck begins using the Holocaust to sell his 'Restoring Courage' rally


There are some very real threats to Israel, but some might argue that Beck trivializes the Holocaust by suggesting that his rally will somehow prevent another mass genocide.

That is the most masterful understatement of the week.

163 Vicious Babushka  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:51:06pm

re: #162 SanFranciscoZionist

There are some very real threats to Israel, but some might argue that Beck trivializes the Holocaust by suggesting that his rally will somehow prevent another mass genocide.

That is the most masterful understatement of the week.

Yet another example of Jerusalem Syndrome.

164 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:53:19pm

re: #161 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

the greatest thing to his party since sliced breath.

I have had morning when you could slice my breath with a knife...

165 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:55:28pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband is going on a little tear right now. "Of course, the main thing the Israelis lack is courage. They're so timid, they're like the fainting goats of the Middle East. Thank God, Glenn Beck is going to teach them to be courageous."

Glenn Beck the self-appointed savior of the Israeli's, only he sees how weak and uncertain they have become and that they desperately need someone (him) to encourage them to greater vigilance and valiance!

/fucking nutjob is what he is, he has gone completely around the bend now that FOX has canceled his show I guess.

166 Stanghazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 12:57:59pm

re: #163 Alouette

Yet another example of Jerusalem Syndrome.

OMG, you learn something new ever day!

167 goddamnedfrank  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:02:06pm
On Tuesday, Kinzinger and 41 of his colleagues sent a letter to President Obama, asking him to rein in Democratic attacks on GOP members who voted for the House budget, which includes a plan to privatize Medicare and cap spending on the program.

"We ask that you stand above partisanship, condemn the disingenuous attacks and work with this Congress to reform spending on entitlement programs," the letter reads.

To preempt the press conference, the DCCC responded to the letter with a long list of NRCC and candidate attack ads and statements from the 2010 election -- all of them targeting Democrats for cutting Medicare, all on behalf of GOP candidates who are now hoping for a truce on Medicare attacks.

Okay, this is the part that makes me laugh. Last week the House Republicans were running scared from their own vote supporting Ryan's budget. Now they're hating on Newt for attacking the very plan they're running away from, to the point where Newt has to eat his own words and grovel for forgiveness.

The GOP has become a caricature of dysfunction.

168 Simply Sarah  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:03:04pm

re: #163 Alouette

Yet another example of Jerusalem Syndrome.

What happens when Beck combines this with preexisting tendency to experience China Syndrome?

169 Four More Tears  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:03:07pm

From the Banana Man's apprentice:

Kirk Cameron to Stephen Hawking: You’re Not So Smart

170 makeitstop  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:03:54pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

The GOP has become a caricature the most accurate depiction ever of dysfunction.

FTFY

171 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:07:09pm

re: #169 JasonA

From the Banana Man's apprentice:

Kirk Cameron to Stephen Hawking: You’re Not So Smart

Of course Breitbart's writer takes Cameron's side. "Hawking's got nuthin'!"

172 jamesfirecat  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:08:25pm

re: #169 JasonA

From the Banana Man's apprentice:

Kirk Cameron to Stephen Hawking: You’re Not So Smart

Wow... didn't Hawking just recently come out with a big piece about how exactly it was scientifically possible for the Big Bang to occur naturally without the hand of god?


[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Why yes did!

173 lawhawk  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:09:37pm

re: #163 Alouette

And he's not even there yet! Pre-Jerusalem Jerusalem syndrome?

174 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:10:48pm

re: #163 Alouette

Yet another example of Jerusalem Syndrome.

Do you think he'll dress up in a caftan and robe? That would be great.

175 makeitstop  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:13:49pm

Follow Newt's Sheep on Twitter!

We fired timidly at first, then not wanting to be dropped from the establishment's cocktail party invite list we unloaded our entire clip. We're reloading.

176 zora  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:14:00pm

re: #39 mr.fusion

Gotta love this

ThinkProgress

In a June 2007 op-ed in the Des Moines Register, Gingrich wrote, “Personal responsibility extends to the purchase of health insurance. Citizens should not be able to cheat their neighbors by not buying insurance, particularly when they can afford it, and expect others to pay for their care when they need it.” An “individual mandate,” he added, should be applied “when the larger health-care system has been fundamentally changed.” [...]

In 2008′s “Real Change,” he wrote, “Finally, we should insist that everyone above a certain level buy coverage (or, if they are opposed to insurance, post a bond). Meanwhile, we should provide tax credits or subsidize private insurance for the poor.”

those were not intended to be factual statements.

177 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:14:03pm

re: #169 JasonA

"HAH! Our absence of evidence is more evidentiary than your absence of evidence! Case closed amen!"

178 sagehen  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:14:29pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband is going on a little tear right now. "Of course, the main thing the Israelis lack is courage. They're so timid, they're like the fainting goats of the Middle East. Thank God, Glenn Beck is going to teach them to be courageous."

When's Beck's tour group going? Does it coincide with the Tel Aviv gay pride festival? There'll be a group of IDF commandos dancing in the parade, wearing nothing but artfully placed ribbons and glittered body paint...

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:16:14pm

re: #163 Alouette

Yet another example of Jerusalem Syndrome.

Manifestation of the Jerusalem syndrome is the phenomenon whereby a person who seems previously balanced and devoid of any signs of psychopathology becomes psychotic after arriving in Jerusalem.

Beck doesn't qualify.

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:16:45pm

re: #168 Simply Sarah

What happens when Beck combines this with preexisting tendency to experience China Syndrome?

Jokes about Jews in Chinese restaurants are coming to mind.

181 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:16:57pm

re: #169 JasonA

From the Banana Man's apprentice:

Kirk Cameron to Stephen Hawking: You’re Not So Smart

Image: Crocoduck.jpg

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:17:27pm

re: #169 JasonA

From the Banana Man's apprentice:

Kirk Cameron to Stephen Hawking: You’re Not So Smart

Kirk, let me speak to you as one religious person to another: yes, he is that smart. He doesn't believe what either of us believe, but he's pretty good at physics. I'm not pretty good at physics. Are you?

183 sagehen  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:19:18pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

Jokes about Jews in Chinese restaurants are coming to mind.

There's a chain called Genghis Cohen... (and for Jewish Italian, La Kosher Nostra).

184 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:19:25pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

Do you think he'll dress up in a caftan and robe? That would be great.

Probably not a turban, though. No matter how accurate, it will look too Muslim.

185 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:21:01pm

re: #178 sagehen

When's Beck's tour group going? Does it coincide with the Tel Aviv gay pride festival? There'll be a group of IDF commandos dancing in the parade, wearing nothing but artfully placed ribbons and glittered body paint...

Eh, I don't know. Tel Aviv Pride is usually around the end of July.

186 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:22:03pm

re: #183 sagehen

There's a chain called Genghis Cohen... (and for Jewish Italian, La Kosher Nostra).

And there's one of my absolute favorite products of any type:

Soy Vay!

(Fell in love with the name instantly, then I tried their teriyaki sauce -- WOW....)

187 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:22:50pm

re: #169 JasonA

From the Banana Man's apprentice:

Kirk Cameron to Stephen Hawking: You’re Not So Smart

Dear Kirk:

When it comes to actual knowledge of physics and science, theoretical physicist > washed up, has-been actor. Get used to it.

No love,
Me

188 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:24:40pm

re: #183 sagehen

There's a chain called Genghis Cohen... (and for Jewish Italian, La Kosher Nostra).


So stealing that.

189 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:25:31pm

re: #187 Lidane

Dear Kirk:

When it comes to actual knowledge of physics and science, theoretical physicist > washed up, has-been actor. Get used to it.

No love,
Me

Oh yeah?!
YOUR MOM!
-Kirk Cameron

190 BongCrodny  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:26:21pm

"Philandering panderer" makes for a pretty decent tongue-twister.

191 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:27:48pm

re: #174 SanFranciscoZionist

Do you think he'll dress up in a caftan and robe? That would be great.

I just had a vision, two gigantic blackboards set up on the Temple Mount in front of the Dome of the Rock with Glenn Beck using a motorized manlift to drive back and forth in front of them and go up and down while he systematically sketches links of Israeli's "tension" with the Arabs to Presidents Obama's "known hatred of White people" and...uhh..."Hitler!"

Maybe it wasn't a revelation, but I sure do feel as though I have been "touched" by something...now excuse me, I need a really long shower.

///

192 JRCMYP  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:27:49pm

re: #32 makeitstop

Holy hell.

Gingrich/Palin 2012
Mr. Selfish and his running mate, Me Too.

193 Romantic Heretic  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:29:44pm

re: #190 BongCrodny

"Philandering panderer" makes for a pretty decent tongue-twister.

Try this one.

The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick.

194 BongCrodny  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:30:52pm

re: #193 Romantic Heretic

Try this one.

The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick.


"Here I sit and shiver..."

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:36:14pm

Newt will be fine. So long as he keeps hating gays and loving gawd, all will be forgiven.

196 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:38:50pm

OT: Anyone else here read 'Memoirs of a Geisha' by Arthur Golden yet?

I don't recommend books very often because most of what I read turns out to be total crap, even if it is on the "best sellers" lists. However every now and then something decent comes along, like 'The Lovely Bones' or 'Memoirs' where your actually sorry to see you've reached the final pages of the book because you want the story to continue.

197 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:40:37pm

re: #169 JasonA

From the Banana Man's apprentice:

Kirk Cameron to Stephen Hawking: You’re Not So Smart

Kirk, you're a hack actor from an old sitcom. Sit down and STFU.

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:41:18pm

Over at Slacktivist, someone has proposed a thought experiment: a Christian who has cultivated such lukewarm belief all his life that he has a 50-50 percent chance of being Raptured is sealed into an opaque box...

199 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:42:41pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Over at Slacktivist, someone has proposed a thought experiment: a Christian who has cultivated such lukewarm belief all his life that he has a 50-50 percent chance of being Raptured is sealed into an opaque box...

We need to run the experiment multiple times to establish its validity.

200 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:44:07pm

re: #197 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Kirk, you're a hack actor from an old sitcom. Sit down and STFU.

what's with this heaven and hell bullshit anyway?...who dreamed up that crazy fantasy?

201 Kragar  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:45:37pm

re: #200 albusteve

what's with this heaven and hell bullshit anyway?...who dreamed up that crazy fantasy?

Shepherds

202 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:46:24pm

There's a rather more interesting take on Hawking's comments here:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

203 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:47:15pm

re: #201 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Shepherds Priests

FTFY

204 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:51:23pm

re: #202 wlewisiii

There's a rather more interesting take on Hawking's comments here:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Interesting piece.

I'm certainly not going to get in Hawking's face about this, but I have to say that I find atheists who declare their beliefs simple fact about as annoying as religious people who declare their beliefs simple fact.

If you're not speaking in your circle of belief, start with "I believe". This is how a pluralistic society manages politeness.

205 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:51:55pm

re: #202 wlewisiii

There's a rather more interesting take on Hawking's comments here:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

gag me, another expert?...on what?, evidence of the resurrection that he doesn't spell out?...I'm so glad I'm not as smart as he is

206 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:53:44pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Over at Slacktivist, someone has proposed a thought experiment: a Christian who has cultivated such lukewarm belief all his life that he has a 50-50 percent chance of being Raptured is sealed into an opaque box...

Schrodinger's rapture?

207 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:55:25pm

re: #206 ausador

Schoedinger's Prat.

208 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:55:41pm

re: #202 wlewisiii

There's a rather more interesting take on Hawking's comments here:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Thing is, it's NOT just an Epicurean fantasy, the notion that the universe may have self-created. Physics is very strange at the scale of the very small, the very big, and the quantum-entangled. Things that are just as incredible and ridiculous to the average mind, as the notion of a universe that came from nothing, are already well supported experimental facts.

Those who know even a little about physics know that there is a lot to know about it. Those who don't--- fall into the same kinds of trap the New York Times fell into decades ago, when it editorialized that Goddard was a fool to imagine that rockets would work in space, when obviously they could not because they would have nothing to push against.

It is perfectly possible to be quite intelligent, and to have thought about a physics problem from the point of view of common sense and concluded that the answer was obvious, and be wrong, wrong wrong.

It is for just this reason that we make of physics a profession, rather than leaving it to hobbyists or editorialists for the New York Times.

209 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:55:55pm

normally I don't much care for this type of stuff, but now I'm curious...
what is the evidence of the resurrection this Wright is speaking of?

210 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:56:45pm

re: #202 wlewisiii

There's a rather more interesting take on Hawking's comments here:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

I'm still waiting for someone to show me objective, verifiable evidence of a Resurrection. Haven't seen it yet, and no, the Bible verses claiming it don't count.

Honestly, in the end it's all academic. Either you believe the stories written by a bunch of primitive shepherds and clerics from thousands of years ago, or you don't.

211 BongCrodny  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:56:48pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

Over at Slacktivist, someone has proposed a thought experiment: a Christian who has cultivated such lukewarm belief all his life that he has a 50-50 percent chance of being Raptured is sealed into an opaque box...

re: #206 ausador

Schrodinger's rapture?


Schrodinger's catechism.

212 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:57:18pm

re: #204 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting piece.

I'm certainly not going to get in Hawking's face about this, but I have to say that I find atheists who declare their beliefs simple fact about as annoying as religious people who declare their beliefs simple fact.

If you're not speaking in your circle of belief, start with "I believe". This is how a pluralistic society manages politeness.

Funny how actual humility makes things taste so much better.

5000% agreed -- absolute certainty in such things is baffling, to me.

213 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:58:25pm

re: #212 Slap

Funny how actual humility makes things taste so much better.

5000% agreed -- absolute certainty in such things is baffling, to me.

Religion baffles me.
;)

214 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 1:59:37pm

Anyone ever heard of the Rev. Ted Pike?

215 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:00:19pm

re: #210 Lidane

I guess we are not worthy of such a question

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:01:19pm

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth

Anyone ever heard of the Rev. Ted Pike?

No. Tell us about the Reverend Ted Pike!

217 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:01:50pm

re: #213 Varek Raith

Religion baffles me.
;)

So does the need for a God. I don't get it. Never have, really.

Nothing against the folks who believe it, but I don't understand the point of it all. Isn't being a good person and living a decent life for its own sake enough?

218 charlz  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:02:37pm

re: #209 albusteve

normally I don't much care for this type of stuff, but now I'm curious...
what is the evidence of the resurrection this Wright is speaking of?

The Bible says so.
/

220 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:03:17pm

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just wondering if he's anyone of significant import, or if he's just a crackpot with a website.

221 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:03:24pm

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth

Anyone ever heard of the Rev. Ted Pike?

Yeah, I've heard of him. He's been on Alex Jones' show before. He's a raging anti-Semite, IIRC.

222 jaunte  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:03:25pm

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't think I want to click on any of those Ted Pike links
[Link: www.google.com...]

223 makeitstop  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:04:28pm

Blockquote>Rev. Pike has appeared on more than 550 radio and TV talk shows since August 2004, educating the public concerning the danger to free speech posed by "anti-hate" laws.

Sounds like a winner. /

224 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:05:19pm

re: #219 Varek Raith

Limbaugh: "Not Every Man's Got It In Him To" Cheat; A Lot Are "Afraid Of Women"

Rush disgusts me.

how does he do that?

225 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:05:40pm

re: #223 makeitstop

Blockquote>Rev. Pike has appeared on more than 550 radio and TV talk shows since August 2004, educating the public concerning the danger to free speech posed by "anti-hate" laws.

Sounds like a winner. /

Especially when you realize that he considers "anti-hate" laws (i.e., hate crimes legislation, etc.) to be a Jewish plot for world domination:

[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org...]

226 Slap  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:05:52pm

re: #217 Lidane

So does the need for a God. I don't get it. Never have, really.

Nothing against the folks who believe it, but I don't understand the point of it all. Isn't being a good person and living a decent life for its own sake enough?

Once, a very devout Christian friend of mine and I were having a discussion about faith (very civilized. non-polemic, quite pleasant). He's puzzled by my agnosticism, and asked "man, how do you even get up each day, not knowing what's at the end of the road? I can't imagine what that's like." I smiled, and said "It's easy -- me, I can't imagine what life would be like knowing how it'll turn out at the end".

Me, I'm quite comfortable with the mystery.

227 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:06:44pm

re: #224 albusteve

how does he do that?

Good point.
:)

228 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:07:14pm

re: #202 wlewisiii

comment posted to the article:

The Apostles' Creed 2011: (updated and based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

I might believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven.

I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
Jerusalem.

Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

Amen

229 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:07:31pm

re: #225 Lidane

Especially when you realize that he considers "anti-hate" laws (i.e., hate crimes legislation, etc.) to be a Jewish plot for world domination:

[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org...]

Everything's a Jewish plot for world domination.
Or was it bagels???

230 makeitstop  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:07:35pm

re: #225 Lidane

Especially when you realize that he considers "anti-hate" laws (i.e., hate crimes legislation, etc.) to be a Jewish plot for world domination:

[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org...]

Yeah, I just spent two minutes on his site.

Now I need a shower, and maybe a de-lousing.

231 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:08:39pm

re: #227 Varek Raith

Good point.
:)

he a radio guy making sounds thru a speaker...guess who disgusts me?
yup, Harry Reid and John Boehner

232 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:11:09pm

re: #231 albusteve

he a radio guy making sounds thru a speaker...guess who disgusts me?
yup, Harry Reid and John Boehner

How's the recovery going?

233 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:11:15pm

re: #221 Lidane

Yeah, I've heard of him. He's been on Alex Jones' show before. He's a raging anti-Semite, IIRC.

That makes sense. I've never heard of the dude before, but raging anti-semite seems to fit.

re: #225 Lidane

Especially when you realize that he considers "anti-hate" laws (i.e., hate crimes legislation, etc.) to be a Jewish plot for world domination:

[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org...]

He also considers the theory of evolution to be a Jewish plot for world domination. To end the suspense (if there is any) generated by my question, I came across this by way of PZ's site. I'll link that, but not Pike:

Evolution is a Jewish conspiracy

In his assessment of Rev. Pike's screed, PZ writes:

I've seen this often in fundamentalist Christians. Jews aren't really people; they're just props in the script of their eschatology.

I don't often agree with PZ, but when I do, I agree really, really hard.

234 Ericus58  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:11:41pm

The Rev. Ted Pike Celebrated Hitler's Birthday by Condemning "Jewish Supremacism"
nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com

"I got the following e-mail in my inbox on Tuesday from my good friend, the Rev. Ted Pike.

I suppose, however, when it comes to attacks on "Jewish supremacism," one has to ask--even if one isn't the youngest male at the table--how is today different from all other days?

HELEN THOMAS WILL LEAD NYC GAZA PROTEST
By Rev. Ted Pike
20 Apr 11


My fervent prayer to the Almighty over the past year has been that He would energize 90-year-old former White House reporter Helen Thomas to keep speaking boldly against Jewish supremacism. Thomas has high visibility and less to lose than most public figures, so she can warn like few others.
.............................
God now uses Helen Thomas and anyone with a vestige of conscience to be His spokesperson. Incredibly, baby-killing, pro-Sodomite leftists have more empathy for the Palestinians than do most evangelicals. They are more responsive than many self-proclaimed Christians to the One who said, "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.”"

Vile Haters, effin tards....

235 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:13:03pm

re: #232 Varek Raith

How's the recovery going?

slow, but I'm getting fitted for a new leg soon, when exactly I don't know

236 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:14:13pm

re: #29 Lidane

Watching Newt implode is hilarious. It's also an object lesson.

Back in the day, Newt would have been seen as reasonable for rejecting the Ryan plan. Now he's a RINO and a traitor. The GOP now is not the same party that went after Clinton in the 90's. They've completely changed and drifted hard to the right.

Drifted? Hell, the GOP has been flying at warp speed towards the hardcore wingnut abyss since after the 2008 elections and I don't see them slowing down. Instead, they seem to be doubling down because of the Sekrit Kenyan Mooslim in the White House and the Democrat-controlled Senate. This crap makes me ashamed to say that I ever considered myself a Republican.

Things are going to get even worse before 2012....hoo-boy!!!

237 martinsmithy  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:17:47pm

Gingrich broke the 11th commandment.

And no one to the left of Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann is allowed to break that commandment.

238 sattv4u2  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:18:42pm

re: #235 albusteve

slow, but I'm getting fitted for a new leg soon, when exactly I don't know

Request something nice and shapely,,,

Betty Grable-ish, perhaps!

239 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:19:35pm

re: #235 albusteve

slow, but I'm getting fitted for a new leg soon, when exactly I don't know

I thought Varek was going to design one with rockets for you?

240 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:20:59pm

re: #238 sattv4u2

Request something nice and shapely,,,

Betty Grable-ish, perhaps!

I want the leg version of a Z28

241 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:21:11pm

re: #62 Slap

We moved in different circles. I spent a number of years in a very conservative industry, and I remember being truly blown away by the amount of utterly irrational hatred and invective I heard hurled toward the Clintons in those days. Had Hillary been elected, or received the nomination in '08, I would guarantee that the far RW's response would have been just as vicious -- in an offensively sexist, rather than racist, manner. (I'm sure there would have been a half-dozen books about Vince Foster, at a minimum, with several "written" by that corsi-bot.)

The far RW seems to have a problem with "uppity others".

Dontchaknow them uppity women and minorities have got to be put in their place (which is below white Christian men)? ///

/which is the vibe I get from the wingnuts nowadays...

242 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:21:51pm

re: #212 Slap

Funny how actual humility makes things taste so much better.

5000% agreed -- absolute certainty in such things is baffling, to me.

I've gotten into trouble with Atheists before by saying that their certainty that there was no god was just as faith based as my belief that there was. Agnosticism I can respect because they say "I don't know, but I doubt it very much" at one time I even held identical views.

Every now and then I try to remind some of the atheists and more rabid anti-theists out there that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, it is one of the most basic rules of logic. However usually this does not go over well, so much for logic...

243 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:22:33pm

re: #239 Slumbering Behemoth

I thought Varek was going to design one with rockets for you?

I'll settle for a little knife that pops outa the toe

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:22:43pm

re: #220 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm just wondering if he's anyone of significant import, or if he's just a crackpot with a website.

No idea.

245 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:22:51pm

re: #239 Slumbering Behemoth

I thought Varek was going to design one with rockets for you?

Since when did Varek become Q?

/

246 sattv4u2  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:22:54pm

re: #241 talon_262

Dontchaknow them uppity women and minorities have got to be put in their place (which is below white Christian men)? ///

/which is the vibe I get from the wingnuts nowadays...

And at the same time do you get the "vibe" that wingnuts would be THRILLED with a Palin and/or Bachman admin?

247 sagehen  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:23:20pm

re: #219 Varek Raith

Limbaugh: "Not Every Man's Got It In Him To" Cheat; A Lot Are "Afraid Of Women"

Rush disgusts me.

So now the party with more cheaters is the stronger and tougher and more suited to lead this great nation?

That's almost clever, in a sociopathic sort of partisanship.

248 sattv4u2  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:23:37pm

re: #245 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Since when did Varek become Q?

/

Since Steve became James!

249 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:25:04pm

re: #242 ausador

Every now and then I try to remind some of the atheists and more rabid anti-theists out there that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, it is one of the most basic rules of logic. However usually this does not go over well, so much for logic...

I would simply reply that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. I don't see why anyone should lose their shit over "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", though.

250 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:26:45pm

re: #248 sattv4u2

Since Steve became James!

stirred, not shaken

251 sattv4u2  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:28:03pm

re: #250 albusteve

stirred, not shaken

Although I love a good Vodka Martini, I'm much more interested in your exploits with Pussy Galore!!

252 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:28:21pm

This is kind of interesting....
Secret Service Employee Accidentally Tweets About 'Blathering' While 'Monitoring' Fox News


An employee of the U.S. Secret Service accidentally sent out a tweet on the official Secret Service twitter account this week saying that he or she “had to monitor Fox for a story. Can’t. Deal. With. The. Blathering.”

The tweet was almost immediately taken down, but not before some quick-acting bloggers copied it.
....
Asked why the employee was monitoring Fox News Channel, Donovan said, “Our public affairs employees monitor all the news channels throughout the day for stories that effect the Secret Service.”

Asked which story this employee was focused on, Donovan said “I don’t know.”


I kind of doubt the Secret Service monitors news networks on a regular basis. I wonder what they were looking for. Maybe they were checking the comments section of the website for death threats. Maybe keeping an eye on what Beck may be inciting.

253 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:28:54pm

re: #248 sattv4u2

Since Steve became James!

"Now 007, this may look like a regular prosthetic leg, but in reality is a cleverly disguised LAW missile launcher."

/

254 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:29:24pm

re: #251 sattv4u2

Although I love a good Vodka Martini, I'm much more interested in your exploits with Pussy Galore!!

Gentlemen do not kiss and tell. With that in mind, I'm sure Steve will be telling us the whole sordid story. :)

255 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:31:02pm

re: #252 Killgore Trout

Fox news is catnip for wild-eyed gun hoarders with beards

256 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:31:46pm

re: #236 talon_262

Things are going to get even worse before 2012...hoo-boy!!!

Just wait. The cranial asplosions on the right if Obama wins a second term will be amazing to watch. They'll put every Fourth of July fireworks show to shame.

257 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:31:52pm

re: #255 WindUpBird

Fox news is catnip for wild-eyed gun hoarders with beards

My beard is disappoint.

258 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:32:15pm

re: #219 Varek Raith

Limbaugh: "Not Every Man's Got It In Him To" Cheat; A Lot Are "Afraid Of Women"

Rush disgusts me.

Rush, you're a misogynistic piece of shit.

Pound sand,
Me

259 sagehen  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:33:03pm

re: #252 Killgore Trout

This is kind of interesting...
Secret Service Employee Accidentally Tweets About 'Blathering' While 'Monitoring' Fox News


I kind of doubt the Secret Service monitors news networks on a regular basis. I wonder what they were looking for. Maybe they were checking the comments section of the website for death threats. Maybe keeping an eye on what Beck may be inciting.

They probably have trainees take shifts between classes and PT. It's certainly not a project they'd waste their road-worthy agents' time on.

260 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:33:05pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

but do you have the crazy eye

261 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:33:33pm

re: #256 Lidane

Just wait. The cranial asplosions on the right if Obama wins a second term will be amazing to watch. They'll put every Fourth of July fireworks show to shame.

My fear is some may decide that, rather than getting even madder, they'll "get even."

262 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:33:42pm

re: #260 WindUpBird

but do you have the crazy eye

No.
...Yet.
/

263 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:33:45pm

this is a typical leg, and I'll have one similar...
[Link: www.mynewleg.net...]

you get to pick the graphics and I'm going for this...
Image: tongue.jpg

264 Daniel Ballard  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:34:17pm

re: #219 Varek Raith

Limbaugh: "Not Every Man's Got It In Him To" Cheat; A Lot Are "Afraid Of Women"

Rush disgusts me.

Heh. Never take marital/sexual ethics advice from a divorced man. Multiply the force of this rule 1.5x the number of divorces and 1.1 times the number of breakups.

265 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:34:31pm

re: #262 Varek Raith

@_O

266 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:34:35pm

re: #249 Slumbering Behemoth

I would simply reply that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.

Exactly.

If you're going to claim that an omnipotent, omniscient, divine entity created everything in the universe, be prepared to explain how. If you're going to claim that a guy thousands of years ago was the son of that entity, and that he walked on water, performed miracles, and rose from the dead, then actual evidence of those claims would be nice.

Pointing at Scripture isn't enough. There has to be more evidence than that, just based on the magnitude of the claims being made.

267 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:34:38pm

re: #259 sagehen

They probably have trainees take shifts between classes and PT. It's certainly not a project they'd waste their road-worthy agents' time on.

MAybe they're doing it to new recruits instead of pepper spay, tasing and waterboarding.

268 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:34:52pm

re: #257 Varek Raith

My beard is disappoint.

the glasses and funny nose look acceptable tho...think positive

269 BishopX  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:34:58pm

re: #259 sagehen

I'd guess they monitor networks coverage of presidential trips/visits. You never know when the camera is going to catch something it shouldn't.

270 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:35:04pm

re: #263 albusteve

this is a typical leg, and I'll have one similar...
[Link: www.mynewleg.net...]

you get to pick the graphics and I'm going for this...
Image: tongue.jpg

Amazin' stuff they're doing with technology these days.

271 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:35:56pm

re: #219 Varek Raith

Limbaugh: "Not Every Man's Got It In Him To" Cheat; A Lot Are "Afraid Of Women"

Rush disgusts me.

Let's ask the opiate addict who goes whoring in the Dominican Republic for marriage advice, ahahahaha


Next let's get driving lessons from Vince Neil

272 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:36:16pm

re: #263 albusteve

total bust...whatever

273 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:36:20pm

re: #263 albusteve

I'd say you're a shoe-in for next year's ass kicking contest.

274 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:36:42pm

re: #265 WindUpBird

@_O

Image: 129205133123604550.jpg

275 Daniel Ballard  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:36:59pm

What The F.... In my own state too. Warrant-less searches ok at optical disc plants who might be pirating content? Hey I really dislike digital piracy but this is just pathetic.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

276 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:36:59pm

re: #269 BishopX

I'd guess they monitor networks coverage of presidential trips/visits. You never know when the camera is going to catch something it shouldn't.

Hmm, could be.

277 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:37:34pm

re: #270 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Amazin' stuff they're doing with technology these days.

indeed...fortunately, I'm at the very bottom of the ladder, a simple below the knee gizmo

278 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:38:53pm

re: #273 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd say you're a shoe-in for next year's ass kicking contest.

I can kick ass from a wheelchair if I have to...I would never underestimate myself

279 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:39:43pm

re: #271 WindUpBird

Let's ask the opiate addict who goes whoring in the Dominican Republic for marriage advice, ahahahaha

Next let's get driving lessons from Vince Neil

I've had two addictions in three years to deal with...maybe your time will come

280 Stanghazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:40:47pm

re: #272 albusteve

total bust...whatever

I knew what it was without seeing it.

281 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:40:59pm

re: #278 albusteve

One of these days I'll have to tell you about the time I was in line at the DMV, stoned out of my gourd, while the dude in line behind me had one of those very old fashioned, articulated wooden legs.

282 Varek Raith  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:42:33pm

re: #281 Slumbering Behemoth

One of these days I'll have to tell you about the time I was in line at the DMV, stoned out of my gourd, while the dude in line behind me had one of those very old fashioned, articulated wooden legs.

He be need'n a plunderin' license.

283 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:42:35pm

re: #277 albusteve

indeed...fortunately, I'm at the very bottom of the ladder, a simple below the knee gizmo

Ayep, but I look at where we've come in the last 50 years alone in prosthetics technology and wonder where they'll be 50 years from now.

284 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:44:17pm

re: #283 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ayep, but I look at where we've come in the last 50 years alone in prosthetics technology and wonder where they'll be 50 years from now.

new flesh and bone I imagine...it's coming

285 freetoken  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:45:50pm

Between his various philandering adventures, his economic theory tap dancing, and confusing the base on his creationist credos... I doubt Newt will get much farther this year.

We're less than 8 months away from the Iowa caucuses and then the NH primaries, and the GOP field still looks like a school of minnows out of water.

286 darthstar  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:46:36pm

re: #285 freetoken

We're less than 8 months away from the Iowa caucuses and then the NH primaries, and the GOP field still looks like a school of minnows out of water.


I fail to see how this is a bad thing.

287 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:47:43pm

re: #286 darthstar

I fail to see how this is a bad thing.

The worse the GOP gets, the less the Democrats have to do to secure votes. It's lose/lose for all of us.

288 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:48:48pm

re: #284 albusteve

new flesh and bone I imagine...it's coming

They've already started serious work into vat-growing viable organs for folks, so I guess the next step is figuring out how to convince those organs to grow together into a complete limb.

289 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:49:05pm

re: #246 sattv4u2

And at the same time do you get the "vibe" that wingnuts would be THRILLED with a Palin and/or Bachman admin?

Depends...I think the most virulent of wingnuts would reject any woman for the GOP nomination in favor a White Christian Male That Is Not Mormon if possible, but most would take Palin or Bachmann, since they're both (apparently) sufficently "Christian" and anti-Obama.

290 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:51:21pm

re: #287 Slumbering Behemoth

The worse the GOP gets, the less the Democrats have to do to secure votes. It's lose/lose for all of us.

when one party is dysfunctional, the whole thing starts to fall apart, as we are seeing now...it's not healthy for the nation to run washed up losers like the GOP is faced with...I actually have the country in my best interests and in these matters I'm just as bipartisan as I can be...too bad others here don't see it that way...they just want blood

291 Obdicut  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:52:04pm

re: #290 albusteve

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:52:19pm

re: #289 talon_262

In Bachmann's case, she has already stated that it is a wife's Christian duty to submit to their husband on everything. She gets her marching orders from her husband, who in turn gets them from The Highest Authority. So I figure the die hard wingnuts would be cool with that.

293 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:52:33pm

Hey, Jane's here!

jane1

Karma: 0
Registered since: Mar 20, 2009 at 11:58 am
(Logged in)

No. of comments posted: 0
No. of links posted: 0
Recent comments

Hey, Jane's been here for two years! Speak up, Jane!

294 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:53:23pm

re: #291 Obdicut

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

I'm very flexible...you might try it sometime

295 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:53:31pm

re: #285 freetoken

Between his various philandering adventures, his economic theory tap dancing, and confusing the base on his creationist credos... I doubt Newt will get much farther this year.

We're less than 8 months away from the Iowa caucuses and then the NH primaries, and the GOP field still looks like a school of minnows out of water.

It's like '08 again: None of the party powerhouses want to run, instead sitting things out til '16, while those who actually do want to run are finding themselves trying to decide whether they want to play to the base or to the independent voters who their electoral chances will actually hinge upon. Likely, what the GOP voters will end up with is somebody who they're really not all that wild about, but will run because he's "Not Obama."

296 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:53:43pm

re: #293 wrenchwench

See Jane Run?

297 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:55:07pm

re: #296 Slumbering Behemoth

See Jane Run?

There's actually a constant parade of such loggings-in. I remain mystified.

298 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:56:12pm

re: #297 wrenchwench

Blog voyeurism, perhaps?

299 Four More Beers  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:56:16pm

”When I make a mistake, and I’m going to on occasion, I’m going to share with the American people that was a mistake becuase that way we can have an honest conversation.”

On occasion? Dude, was giving your dying wife the divorce papers one of your "occasional" mistakes, you blood-sucking varmint? And I guess "sharing your mistake" on that freak Christian show meant saying that you fucked around like a dog in heat because you loved your country so much, eh?

300 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:59:16pm

re: #298 Slumbering Behemoth

Blog voyeurism, perhaps?

I guess if you're going to voyeur a blog, it might as well be the best. Gotta be logged in to appreciate all the features.

301 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 2:59:52pm

re: #297 wrenchwench

There's actually a constant parade of such loggings-in. I remain mystified.

maybe people feel they need to commit to one point of view or another and can't, or won't, so they say nothing...just a guess...I wanted to post so bad I could taste it back then, but reg was very rare and unannounced etc...you knew that

302 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:01:28pm

The next outrage, stop talking about Bin Laden:

Gates urges end to bin Laden raid speculation

Two top US defence officials have urged an end to the discussion about the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound and speculation about Pakistan's role in the affair.

In his first press conference since bin Laden's death, US defence secretary Robert Gates advised against cutting off aid to Pakistan for its failure to go after Islamic militants, saying Islamabad had already been "humiliated".

"I've seen no evidence at all that the senior leadership knew. In fact, I've seen some evidence to the contrary," he said.

More...

303 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:02:11pm

re: #301 albusteve

maybe people feel they need to commit to one point of view or another and can't, or won't, so they say nothing...just a guess...I wanted to post so bad I could taste it back then, but reg was very rare and unannounced etc...you knew that

I was registered for three months before I commented, but that was before everyone could see who's logged in. Now that I think of it, I'm the voyeur.

Damn you Master Spy!

304 blueraven  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:02:25pm

re: #247 sagehen

So now the party with more cheaters is the stronger and tougher and more suited to lead this great nation?

That's almost clever, in a sociopathic sort of partisanship.

How very French of Rush.

305 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:02:39pm

re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth

In Bachmann's case, she has already stated that it is a wife's Christian duty to submit to their husband on everything. She gets her marching orders from her husband, who in turn gets them from The Highest Authority. So I figure the die hard wingnuts would be cool with that.

So, does that mean that in Bachmann's congressional (and, heaven forbid, presidential) duties, her husband can override her positions? Shouldn't that mean he should have run for office, not her, if this is the case with them?

/it boggles the mind...

306 prairiefire  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:03:14pm

re: #297 wrenchwench

There's actually a constant parade of such loggings-in. I remain mystified.

I know! I will read the list and wonder what is on their minds.

307 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:03:35pm

re: #286 darthstar

I fail to see how this is a bad thing.

Healthy competition is a good thing. If your opponent is a gibbering mouth-breather who parrots every inane conspiracy theory and persecution complex out there and makes themselves look like a raving lunatic, all you have to do is sound reasonable and sane to win.

It would be nice if we had two functioning political parties in this country instead of whatever the hell it is we have now.

308 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:03:40pm

re: #303 wrenchwench

I was registered for three months before I commented, but that was before everyone could see who's logged in. Now that I think of it, I'm the voyeur.

Damn you Master Spy!

yeah, we're all exposed now!...as long as CJ doesn't publish my track record

309 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:05:26pm

re: #308 albusteve

yeah, we're all exposed now!...as long as CJ doesn't publish my track record

Heh. Besides your Karma, we could see your timeouts, deletions, etc. (Got any etc.?)

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:05:30pm

re: #302 ozbloke

"If the cops pull you over, and there is weed in your car, it's your weed".

311 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:06:09pm

re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth

In Bachmann's case, she has already stated that it is a wife's Christian duty to submit to their husband on everything. She gets her marching orders from her husband, who in turn gets them from The Highest Authority. So I figure the die hard wingnuts would be cool with that.

Every time I read that submission nonsense I get so mad I can't see straight. I loathe that garbage with the fire of a thousand suns.

If a man can't handle me having my own education, my own opinions, and my own free will, then he's not worth my time. I'd never marry a man who demanded that I submit to him in every way and on every decision. That kind of man doesn't want a partner. He wants a servant. Screw that.

312 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:06:19pm

re: #309 wrenchwench

Heh. Besides your Karma, we could see your timeouts, deletions, etc. (Got any etc.?)

I have been guilty of quoting the troll.

313 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:07:00pm

re: #307 Lidane

Healthy competition is a good thing. If your opponent is a gibbering mouth-breather who parrots every inane conspiracy theory and persecution complex out there and makes themselves look like a raving lunatic, all you have to do is sound reasonable and sane to win.

It would be nice if we had two functioning political parties in this country instead of whatever the hell it is we have now.

American Idol: Presidential Edition.

314 prairiefire  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:07:05pm

re: #312 EmmmieG

I have been guilty of quoting the troll.

Me, too.

315 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:07:29pm

re: #305 talon_262

He probably isn't as pretty as her.

316 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:07:43pm

re: #309 wrenchwench

Heh. Besides your Karma, we could see your timeouts, deletions, etc. (Got any etc.?)

well there you have it...he blocked my account over a context misinterpretation and was kind enough to review it and unblock me...pretty cool guy for paying attention

317 Decatur Deb  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:08:04pm

re: #281 Slumbering Behemoth

One of these days I'll have to tell you about the time I was in line at the DMV, stoned out of my gourd, while the dude in line behind me had one of those very old fashioned, articulated wooden legs.

The military instructor at our school was a young sergeant who lost much of his leg in Korea. All the while the nuns were trying to civilize us, he was providing the macho notes they couldn't hit. Example: Chewing out a 10 yr old chronic FU in the ranks, he announced "If you do that again, Smith, I'm going to take this leg off and shove it up your ass." Times were different then.

318 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:09:18pm

re: #287 Slumbering Behemoth

The worse the GOP gets, the less the Democrats have to do to secure votes. It's lose/lose for all of us.

Indeed...so long as President Obama and the Dems don't majorly screw up between now and next November, the 2012 elections are theirs to lose if the GOP continues carrying on like they have.

319 wrenchwench  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:10:08pm

Speaking of features, now we need Top and Bottom Comments for the Pages. This one is not to be missed.

320 Lidane  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:10:43pm

OK. BBL. Cats need food and I need groceries.

321 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:10:49pm

re: #318 talon_262

Indeed...so long as President Obama and the Dems don't majorly screw up between now and next November, the 2012 elections are theirs to lose if the GOP continues carrying on like they have.

there is already a screwup in progress...9% unemployment...
the economy is the huge unknown

322 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:14:00pm

re: #310 Slumbering Behemoth

"If the cops pull you over, and there is weed in your car, it's your weed".

Its early for me, second coffee.
That has just gone straight over my head.
Care to elaborate?

323 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:14:24pm

re: #279 albusteve

I've had two addictions in three years to deal with...maybe your time will come

yeah but I also wouldn't be grandstanding on the radio for 250 million dollars pretending to be an expert while smearing people!


Rush Limbaugh is bad energy, a perfect example of how evil sells

324 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:14:35pm

re: #311 Lidane

Every time I read that submission nonsense I get so mad I can't see straight. I loathe that garbage with the fire of a thousand suns.

If a man can't handle me having my own education, my own opinions, and my own free will, then he's not worth my time. I'd never marry a man who demanded that I submit to him in every way and on every decision. That kind of man doesn't want a partner. He wants a servant. Screw that.

And an on-demand sex doll/baby maker...really misogynistic bullshit.

325 Simply Sarah  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:15:58pm

re: #323 WindUpBird

yeah but I also wouldn't be grandstanding on the radio for 250 million dollars pretending to be an expert while smearing people!

Rush Limbaugh is bad energy, a perfect example of how evil sells

Rush isn't pretending to be an expert. He's a triple Ph.D. Bullshit and Smear artist!

326 albusteve  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:18:00pm

re: #323 WindUpBird

yeah but I also wouldn't be grandstanding on the radio for 250 million dollars pretending to be an expert while smearing people!

Rush Limbaugh is bad energy, a perfect example of how evil sells

could be, but his addictions are no business of mine...sometimes it's nearly impossible to avoid, it can sneak up on you...I don't defend the public man, but his personal problems are none of my business

327 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:19:15pm

re: #322 ozbloke

Its early for me, second coffee.
That has just gone straight over my head.
Care to elaborate?

Gates is trying to argue that, just because we caught OBL in Pakistan, doesn't mean that those at the highest levels of the Pakistani gov't knew he was squatting in their backyard.

SB's quote points out the reality that, in the eyes of law enforcement, it doesn't matter who put the drugs in the car, the fact that it's your car means that the cops see them as your drugs. If they truly aren't your drugs, then why are they in your car?

328 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:24:19pm

re: #327 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Gates is trying to argue that, just because we caught OBL in Pakistan, doesn't mean that those at the highest levels of the Pakistani gov't knew he was squatting in their backyard.

SB's quote points out the reality that, in the eyes of law enforcement, it doesn't matter who put the drugs in the car, the fact that it's your car means that the cops see them as your drugs. If they truly aren't your drugs, then why are they in your car?

Thank you, that makes sense now.

The mentality seems to be that if there is a terrorist in your midst your government must know.
I wonder if thats where the rumors started that the US Govt were in on 9/11.

329 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:24:22pm

re: #311 Lidane

Every time I read that submission nonsense I get so mad I can't see straight. I loathe that garbage with the fire of a thousand suns.

Blah, blah, blah, education, opinions, free will, blah, blah blah...

Shut your trap and get your ass in the kitchen, I been waitin on my samwidch for fifteen minutes while you were blatherin with your online "friends" woman!

/

330 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:24:49pm

re: #300 wrenchwench

And, the features here are wonderful and numerous!

331 Targetpractice  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:29:37pm

re: #328 ozbloke

Thank you, that makes sense now.

The mentality seems to be that if there is a terrorist in your midst your government must know.
I wonder if thats where the rumors started that the US Govt were in on 9/11.

It's the same sort of mentality that said that Taliban, "knowing" that Al-Q was operating within their territory, meant that they had given approval to the 9/11 attacks. Or were supporting Al-Q by not giving in to our demands to turn over OBL's head on a silver platter without first seeing some evidence that he was guilty of anything.

332 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:46:16pm

re: #326 albusteve

could be, but his addictions are no business of mine...sometimes it's nearly impossible to avoid, it can sneak up on you...I don't defend the public man, but his personal problems are none of my business

With most anyone else, I'd agree with you, Steve. However, when it comes to Rush Limbaugh and drugs, his addictions are very much everyone's business, because he argued for tougher punishment for drug offenses back in the 90s, IIRC.

Funny that he hasn't said much about the subject, AFAIK, since his own run-ins with the law over Oxycontin became public knowledge, ain't it?

The man is a hypocrite and a flaming douchebag...

333 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:52:34pm

re: #322 ozbloke

Its early for me, second coffee.
That has just gone straight over my head.
Care to elaborate?

Sorry, AFK.

It's a joke I seemed to mangle. Some late nite talk show host or other was talking about finding OBL in Pakistan.

"When the cops pull you over, and they find weed in your car, it's your weed".

334 Usually refered to as anyways  Wed, May 18, 2011 3:58:33pm

re: #333 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry, AFK.

It's a joke I seemed to mangle. Some late nite talk show host or other was talking about finding OBL in Pakistan.

"When the cops pull you over, and they find weed in your car, it's your weed".

Thanks SB, Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds sorted me out.
By the way part of the confusion was cos they would never have found my weed.

Oh and not enough coffee.

335 enigma3535  Wed, May 18, 2011 5:06:49pm

Given what has happened to Gingrich this week [apparently, being beaten up as possibly a RINO owing to his diss’ing of Ryan’s “kill medicare” plan] … IMHO, it will be difficult [if not impossible] for a Republican to win in the primaries [which will almost certainly require them advocate a set of positions that placates the base] and then move back toward the center for a general election … unless there is a major terrorist event in the US or a severe downturn in the economy in the months leading up to Nov 2012, the GOP is toast regarding any aspirations for winning the next presidency.

336 Decider  Wed, May 18, 2011 7:03:20pm

Hardest hit by this tragic Newt campaign: Sean Hannity.

337 RIRedinPA  Thu, May 19, 2011 4:28:53am

re: #32 makeitstop

There isn't any right or wrong, there isn't any conservative or liberal. There's only what will work best for Newt Gingrich.

He is Iago.


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