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1 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:35:51pm

Road Tacos.
/Sounds delicious

2 albusteve  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:36:28pm

tacos...
the essence of gastro Zen

3 Romantic Heretic  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:36:37pm

Been too long since I had tacos. Must get myself to Hernando's Hideaway soon.

4 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:38:12pm

Haiku posts are cool.
So are haikus with tacos.
Can't wait for Friday.

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:40:46pm

Does the world end tomorrow or Saturday?

6 Alexzander  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:42:38pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saturday.

7 Alexzander  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:43:27pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

More specifically, the earth quakes should begin as the 21st begins in Jerusalem. Then the rapture should occur at approximately 6pm in each time zone.
Check your local listings.

8 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:43:43pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does the world end tomorrow or Saturday?

Depends if god is an Aussie.

9 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:44:17pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Depends if god is an Aussie.

...in which case it happened last Thursday.

10 Virginia Plain  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:45:14pm

Burma Shave.

11 Alexzander  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:45:39pm

PS - Was there any resolution of The Obama/Israel controversy from the last thread? I stopped reading a few hundred posts ago. Is The NYTimes just incorrect when they assume Obama is talking about the pre-1967 green line?

A day before the arrival in Washington of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, Mr. Obama declared that the prevailing borders before the 1967 Arab-Israeli war — adjusted to some degree to account for Israeli settlements in the West Bank — should be the basis of a deal. While the 1967 borders have long been viewed as the foundation for a peace agreement, Mr. Obama’s formula of land swaps to compensate for disputed territory created a new benchmark for a diplomatic solution.

Mr. Obama’s statement represented a subtle, but significant shift, in American policy. And it thrust him back into the region’s most nettlesome dispute at a time when conditions would seem to make reaching a deal especially difficult.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/world/middleeast/20speech.html?_r=2&hp

12 BenghaziHoops  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:46:29pm

re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does the world end tomorrow or Saturday?

The world will end when the Sun goes red giant in 5 billion years..
whether we are here or not then doesn't really matter does it?
/Hi Veggie!

13 albusteve  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:47:26pm

Floyd
Money

re: #9 Killgore Trout

...in which case it happened last Thursday.

divinity is such a burden to haul around...especially with such a fickle god and his busy schedule

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:47:35pm

re: #12 HoosierHoops

The world will end when the Sun goes red giant in 5 billion years..
whether we are here or not then doesn't really matter does it?
/Hi Veggie!

What about the children? Don't you care about the children?

15 Renaissance_Man  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:47:38pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Depends if god is an Aussie.

1) He is, since we know he made us in his own image.

2) Given that he is, it can't be Saturday, because no Australian would do something that major on a weekend. Not when the footy's on.

16 jaunte  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:48:18pm

re: #4 Renaissance_Man

I had some good tacos tonight, too.

Tacos for dinner
I got your rapture right here
Stuck down now to ground

17 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:49:35pm

Repost from previous thread:

I'm at this point just going to leave the Civil War Woods segment of my LGF/D&D Crossover incomplete. The only things remaining were stats for the Teabagger and Veteran militiamen and the special rules for using the head of the Backstabbing Backbencher to end the fight by placating Singsong Texas Veteran (which was entirely a reference to Taxfreekiller's anger at John Kerry). If ever needed, I can whip up those details, but now I want to past that section to the two-part final battle of the Tomb of Dead Political Gods.

Part 1: The Astral Engine and the Harpy's Wrath

Whether through victory over the Ubersocks or militia, the players reach a large door set into a high wall. Opening it leads them into a huge room with a high ceiling, lit by an immense construct of gems from the Arctic, which glows with Bad Craziness Energy. In the center of it, on can see a pair of black framed glasses the glows brightest of all. This is PALINDROME's Astral Engine, which she has been using to channel immense political power. The glasses are her phylactry, the holder of her soul and bad craziness powers. While the players destruction of her Soul Gems has disrupted the power flow to the Engine, the player's must still shut it down.

Special: If the players entered through Civil War Woods, they fall 20 feet into the chamber from the door. Unless magic is used to cushion the blow, each player takes 2D10 damage.

18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:50:06pm

The Pope calls in the Cardinals. Says, "I have good news and bad news. Today? God called me."
The Cardinals in unison say, "Praise God!"
One of the Cardinals asks, "What's the bad news?"
The Pope says, "She called from Salt Lake City."

19 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:50:14pm

re: #11 Alexzander

They're incorrect that there's anything new about the policy. It's really not even a "subtle shift," the latest take on it. It's been explicitly stated by the last few US administrations, using slightly different words.

We went from the initial "OBAMA SIDES WITH PALESTINIANS!" headlines to a "subtle shift" within an 8-hour news cycle.

20 BenghaziHoops  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:51:43pm

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What about the children? Don't you care about the children?

I figure they will be blogging on 200 inch monitors with 600 trillion MGH computers and never notice the end of the world until Tweeterdeck stops working...
/Where did everybody go?

21 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:52:31pm

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Pope calls in the Cardinals. Says, "I have good news and bad news. Today? God called me."
The Cardinals in unison say, "Praise God!"
One of the Cardinals asks, "What's the bad news?"
The Pope says, "She called from Salt Lake City."

The Cardinals won't care, as long as they win the NL Central. [grumble]

/Cubs Fan

22 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:55:59pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

The Cardinals won't care, as long as they win the NL Central. [grumble]

/Cubs Fan

Blasphemy!

/also a Cubs fan

23 jamesfirecat  Thu, May 19, 2011 6:59:24pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

Repost from previous thread:

I'm at this point just going to leave the Civil War Woods segment of my LGF/D&D Crossover incomplete. The only things remaining were stats for the Teabagger and Veteran militiamen and the special rules for using the head of the Backstabbing Backbencher to end the fight by placating Singsong Texas Veteran (which was entirely a reference to Taxfreekiller's anger at John Kerry). If ever needed, I can whip up those details, but now I want to past that section to the two-part final battle of the Tomb of Dead Political Gods.

Part 1: The Astral Engine and the Harpy's Wrath

Whether through victory over the Ubersocks or militia, the players reach a large door set into a high wall. Opening it leads them into a huge room with a high ceiling, lit by an immense construct of gems from the Arctic, which glows with Bad Craziness Energy. In the center of it, on can see a pair of black framed glasses the glows brightest of all. This is PALINDROME's Astral Engine, which she has been using to channel immense political power. The glasses are her phylactry, the holder of her soul and bad craziness powers. While the players destruction of her Soul Gems has disrupted the power flow to the Engine, the player's must still shut it down.

Special: If the players entered through Civil War Woods, they fall 20 feet into the chamber from the door. Unless magic is used to cushion the blow, each player takes 2D10 damage.

Repost from the previous thread also...


Are you sure the phylactry shouldn't be a jewel encrusted /made up of jewels flag pin?

Something like this only more so with rubies and diamonds and sapphires?

24 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:01:27pm

As the players look at the hovering engine, they notice a large stone statue in the back of the room. By the slime coating it and its shape, it appears to be an icon from one of the tombs you fought through previously, that of the Shrieking Harpy. As the players move to investigate, a loud Word Salad erupts from the Engine, the dread voice of the demi-litch PALINDROME:

"So, you got all the way here, huh? Well, I can't let you ruin my engine, no sir! So I guess I'm gonna need to kill you, you betcha. Gonna use this magic to summon someone..."

As she stops speaking, a blast of pure Bad Craziness brusts from the Engine, striking the statue. The slime falls away, then the statue lightens, slowly turning into a half-living color of grey. Then it starts to move, and it is clear the statue is that of the Shrieking Harpy herself. The Harpy looks towards the players, but before they can say a word, it shrieks horribly, screeching out "WORSHIPERS OF ISLAM!!!11" so loudly it fills the entire chamber. Then it flys into the air, to attack.

25 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:02:51pm

re: #23 jamesfirecat

Repost from the previous thread also...

Are you sure the phylactry shouldn't be a jewel encrusted /made up of jewels flag pin?

Something like this only more so with rubies and diamonds and sapphires?

Works for me. So changed.

26 Bear  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:04:00pm

Yesterday while waiting for the dentist to start doing a root canal on me, the dental assistant wanted to know if I wanted to watch TV sports while being worked on. No thanks!! Just let get the work done as fast as possible.

Don't know if the dentist wanted to watch the game//

27 BenghaziHoops  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:06:48pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

The Cardinals won't care, as long as they win the NL Central. [grumble]

/Cubs Fan

Cubs vs. Red Sox Sunday night.. Only 93 years since the Cubs visited Boston

28 simoom  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:07:28pm

Fox News commenters are in fine form in response to the mid-east speech nontraversy ///:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

bowtonoone 6 minutes ago
History is certainly repeating itself under Obama. Adolf did the same things to the Jews but I doubt they'll knuckle under this time.
5 people liked this.
4given777 7 minutes ago
Why are we worried about Terrorist from other countries, when America voted one for President (Obama) ( I Didn't).
3 people liked this.
mrcheezit 37 minutes ago
Don't you just want to beat the white out of Obozo's @ss?
14 people liked this.

tilly2 31 minutes ago in reply to mrcheezit
I do, I do, indeed I do.
2 people liked this.

ccjs 55 minutes ago
The Mossad is very good at what they do.
4 people liked this.

retusmc 49 minutes ago in reply to ccjs
Their opportunity might be the upcoming AIPAC conference. I'm pretty certain that all bets are off that the audience will not boo obama during his speech.
2 people liked this.

cladman3001 47 minutes ago in reply to retusmc
Gosh, I believe he will be booed off stage and this would be a great day for America if they boo him off the stage
10 people liked this.

usnretired03 45 minutes ago in reply to cladman3001
One can only hope . . .
4 people liked this.


usnretired03 59 minutes ago in reply to retusmc
I lost a great deal of respect for the Jews in America when they overwhelmingly supported this moron. Their continued support only shows they are becoming a society of Fools.
7 people liked this.

navyvette 53 minutes ago in reply to usnretired03
I think the Jews like many other people were duped by Obama...but if this keeps up that won't last long, it's almost like he is helping us get rid of him in 2012
9 people liked this.

usnretired03 51 minutes ago in reply to navyvette
I would never dreamed that after the Nazideathcamps that the Jews would be so foolish.
3 people liked this.

ihaveaclue.doyou 1 hour ago

This is a completely attack on all peoples who hold judeo-christian values. Plain and simple.

Anyone who disagrees shares the same goal of seeing the nation of Islam conquer the world.
1 person liked this.

mejfa 1 hour ago
The reason oduma had osama k i l l e d was they were in a power struggle for control of Al Qaeda.
5 people liked this
Richard Nixon 2012 2 hours ago
Obama is the anti-Christ sent by Satan to destroy all that is righteous and good.
11 people liked this.

W-T-F...

29 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:07:47pm

re: #1 Killgore Trout

Road Tacos.
/Sounds delicious

Have you seen Rick Bayless' road taco tour? It will be on TV, but I've been following. He's totally in my neighborhood and I am going to hit these places.

[Link: www.rickbayless.com...]

30 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:13:10pm

re: #4 Renaissance_Man

Haiku posts are cool.
So are haikus with tacos.
Can't wait for Friday.

Haikus need sushi
or better, teriyaki
cooked in front of you

31 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:13:35pm

re: #28 simoom

Yikes.

32 jaunte  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:13:58pm

re: #30 sagehen

A tako taco?

33 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:14:26pm

re: #32 jaunte

A Mako Taco?

34 [deleted]  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:15:36pm
35 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:16:00pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Then it flys into the air, to attack.

*Lazer Cat fires lazer.*

36 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:17:04pm

re: #28 simoom

Fox News commenters are in fine form in response to the mid-east speech nontraversy ///:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

W-T-F...

These people have LOST THEIR SHIT.

37 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:17:50pm

re: #21 Dark_Falcon

The Cardinals won't care, as long as they win the NL Central. [grumble]

/Cubs Fan

re: #22 NJDhockeyfan

Blasphemy!

/also a Cubs fan

Where's that relentless optimism I expect from your kind? Boundless faith, with no regard to evidence?

38 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:18:32pm

If the world ends in 2 days, Associated Press caused it to happen.

39 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:18:58pm

re: #32 jaunte

A tako taco?

tako is one of my favs. And I had a pet tako once. wah, I eat his brethren often.

40 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:19:42pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

W-T-F...

These people have LOST THEIR SHIT.

I've been reading comments at MSNBC. Check out this beauty...

Olias of Sunhillow

When the Arab armies came to the Palestinian's help during the 1948 War after the Zionist terror groups had already expelled over 300,000 Palestinians. But even after the Arab intervention the Zionists were able to expel an additional 500,000 Palestinians and erase over 400 Palestinian villages and towns during the process.

What happened back then can be compared to what happened in the late 1990's when the Serb minority in Kosovo kicked out some 250,000 Albanians from Kosovo, and then expelled 200,000 more Albanians even after NATO intervened.

If you can say that the Zionists have the right to take land by force I can easily reply we can then take it back by force. But there's no need to get into that kind of mindset since the implemention of UN resolutions would solve the problem.

Now, I need to remind people that when negotiations were ongoing during Yasser Arafat's rule Israel did indeed offer most of the West Bank and Gaza back but, unfortuntely, it insisted on keeping control of all the borders of Palestine, its air space, its shores, and its water resources (whatever water is flowing under and above ground in the Occupied Territories).

So if we said "no" to Israel it's more because we were trying to fine tune the agreement and not reject the entire thing.

Another thing that keeps being mentioned in regard to the Israel-Palestine issue is how the West Bank and Gaza were under Jordan's and Egypt's control, respectively, and how they missed an opportunity to establish a Palestinian state back then before the 1967 War broke.

My argument about that is, 1) Our main concern at the time was the integrity of Palestine and not have it divided as it was. The 1964 PLO charter expresses this desire as follows:

"Article 21. The Palestine people believes in the principle of justice, freedom, sovereignty, self-determination, human dignity, and the right of peoples to practice these principles. It also supports all international efforts to bring about peace on the basis of justice and free international co-operation.

"Article 22. The People of Palestine believe in peaceful coexistence on the basis of legal existence, for there can be no coexistence with aggression, nor can there be peace with occupation and colonialism."

2) Even if Jordan and Egypt helped established a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza that would not have prevented Israel from invading and take over the rest of historical Palestine which has always been the desire of the Zionist movement.

So, instead of having the 1967 War, or the 1956 Suez Canal War if, for example, the Palestinian state was established in 1955, there probably would have been the 1960 or 1962 War due to Israel goal to conquer all of historical Palestine as described in every one of the Zionist manifestos written since the late 1800's, the first one of which was "The Jewish State" by Theodore Herzl, founder of the fascist Zionist movement.

THE ORIGINAL SIN

"If we had invested in the Arab problem a tenth of the energy, the passion, the ingenuity, the resourcefulness which we developed in order to gain the support of Britain, France, the US and Weimar Germany, our destiny in the development of Israel may have been quite different. We were not ready for compromises; we did not regard it as a major problem. We did not make sufficient efforts to get, if not the full agreement of the Arabs, at least their acquiescence to a Jewish state, which I think would have been possible. That was the original sin."

Dr. Nahum Goldmann, former president of the World Jewish Congress
#3.53 - Thu May 19, 2011 9:59 PM EDT

HuffPo member?

41 jaunte  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:20:10pm

re: #34 MikeySDCA

Image: Itsss.jpg

42 jaunte  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:20:46pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

The tako taco concept has legs.

43 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:21:02pm

re: #37 sagehen

re: #22 NJDhockeyfan

Where's that relentless optimism I expect from your kind? Boundless faith, with no regard to evidence?

[Video]

Fantastic! Pure historic magic :)

44 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:21:52pm

re: #40 NJDhockeyfan

I've been reading comments at MSNBC. Check out this beauty...

HuffPo member?

Well at least his was thought out and had full sentences. Radical opinion of course, but doing the magical fairy dance with an "elite" is a fail. Derp.

45 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:22:10pm

re: #36 Stanley Sea

W-T-F...

These people have LOST THEIR SHIT.

I think they're snorting their shit.

46 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:22:58pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

HuffPo member?

Well at least his was thought out and had full sentences. Radical opinion of course, but doing the magical fairy dance with an "elite" is a fail. Derp.

Crazy comes in all sizes.

47 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:23:08pm

re: #45 b_sharp

I think they're snorting their shit.

I swear to dog, that Obama got OBL killed them. Just fucking ruined them.

48 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:23:10pm

Actual facebook comment on the Reproductive Health Bill being debated in Philippine Congress today:

the state has no right to influence and/or make moral choices for people. That belongs to religious organizations.

Just in case people wonder why I get so irritable over religion and certain political leanings...

49 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:23:10pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea

HuffPo member?

Well at least his was thought out and had full sentences.

That's a cut & paste.

50 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:24:45pm

re: #38 Alouette

If the world ends in 2 days, Associated Press caused it to happen.

I'm spending tomorrow in prayer.
You know. Just in case.

51 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:25:28pm

re: #49 Alouette

That's a cut & paste.

Check this one out:


Mark-1219747

I am all for pushing the Jewish Zionist BS back in Isreal.

I think Palestine should have a country.

I am interested to see how Juliet Echo Whiskeys respond to this. You do realize they control ALL Banks, Federal Entities (Fema, Homeland Security, ETC) and if you dont believe it..go check who the top dogs in those groups are.

Will this cause Obama to lose the election? Yes, Jews are coming out of the woodwork to give Mit and Ron money..check out their totals now.

What does all of this actually mean?

We wont know till it plays out. Obama has lied so much there is no telling how much of a lie this is. Not a repub, lib, or tea person...just a red blooded American that knows who has the money. This could just be a "token" so the Jews don't get the FED shut down...who knows..not me.

1 vote

#3.41 - Thu May 19, 2011 7:52 PM EDT

52 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:25:43pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

I'm spending tomorrow in prayer.
You know. Just in case.

I'm spending tomorrow weeding the tomatoes. In case not.

53 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:26:22pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

I swear to dog, that Obama got OBL killed them. Just fucking ruined them.

They are stuck in an infinite, non-terminating, binary, recursive brain fart loop.

And they don't know it.

54 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:26:46pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

I'm spending tomorrow in prayer.
You know. Just in case.

Can't hurt. I have to work so please say a few prayers for me.
;)

55 jaunte  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:27:00pm

re: #49 Alouette

That's a cut & paste.

Here's the same comment from April 25:
[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

56 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:27:14pm

re: #51 NJDhockeyfan

You know you've been magical balance fairying all day.

Why not just address the issue at hand rather than quote mining for some sort of balance to make you feel better?

57 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:27:18pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

I'm spending tomorrow weeding the tomatoes. In case not.

hehe.

Actually, I have a few errands to run, and then daughter's end-of-semester-good-grades celebration dinner out. It's gonna be a busy day.

58 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:28:02pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

You know you've been magical balance fairying all day.

Why not just address the issue at hand rather than quote mining for some sort of balance to make you feel better?

Who are you, the LGF police?

59 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:28:04pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

I'm spending tomorrow in prayer.
You know. Just in case.

I'm spending tomorrow in bed.

With Arnie's girlfriends.

60 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:28:36pm

re: #58 NJDhockeyfan

Who are you, the LGF police?

Tonight, yes. Have a taco.

61 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:29:24pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

Tonight, yes. Have a taco.

Put extra cheese & hot sauce on it.

62 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:29:49pm

I had to shut off the Twitter feed. Too much bad craziness erupting everywhere.

63 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:29:50pm

*Walks in, carrying an "The End Is Near!" picket sign*

64 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:29:58pm

re: #59 b_sharp

I'm spending tomorrow in bed.

With Arnie's girlfriends.

Does your wife know about this?

65 BenghaziHoops  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:31:00pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

I'm spending tomorrow in prayer.
You know. Just in case.

LOL
I have an appointment with a doctor next Friday.. I think I'm in trouble either way...I feel sick inside...
Be brave Hoopster

66 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:31:13pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

*Walks in, carrying an "The End Is Near!" picket sign*

RORSCHACH O_O

67 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:31:15pm

Aspect of the Shrieking Harpy
Level 24 Bloodthirsty Birdbrained Bitch

With the upper body of an insane woman, and the lower body of a city pigeon (albeit 2.5 times large than any human), the Harpy is a Giant-sized enemy (-1 to all to-hit numbers).

Armor: Utterly obtuse, totally immune to all logic-based attacks, fact-based attacks only do 50% of normal damage. Only brute force attacks due normal damage.

Hit Points: 400, Bloodied: 200

Attacks:

Talons: 4D6 damage

Shrieks of Hate and Rage: Automatically used in any round that the Harpy does not spew Burning Stupid (see below). Each such round, players must make a saving roll at -2 difficulty. Failure stuns the player till the next round, when it can be ended with a normal save. Also, the shrieks prevent all verbal communication (The DM should not allow the players to talk to each other in such rounds) and impose a +2 difficulty to chanting spells.

Head-Butt (Harpy must start at 5 height or higher to use, cannot make other attacks this round): The Harpy dives and plants its ugly face into a player. 5D10 damage.

Grab and Drop (twice only): To use this, the Harpy uses its Talons with a +1 difficulty. If successful, the harpy carries the character up 80 feet to the top of the chamber and drops him or her. Unless magic can be used to break the fall, player takes 8D10 falling damage.

Magic:

Spew of Burning Stupid (Ranged Attack, 7 hex range, two hex width, usable every 3 rounds): The Harpy spews a stream of foul, fiery stupidity. Using this attack means that the Harpy cannot use its Shrieks this round. Any player characters hit by the stream takes 1D20 damage and must make a saving roll:
First failed save: Take an additional 1D10 damage.
Second failed save: Character is set on fire. Next round, character automatically take 2D10 damage and may take no actions other than to run around screaming "THE STUPID!! IT BURNS!!!11". A successful save ends this.

Glare of Utter Hate (Recharge on DM 2D6 roll of 9 or better): 3D6 Nercrotic Damage and the target knocked unconscious (reduced to Stunned by a successful save, a successful save next turn removes the effect).

Summon Hater Trolls: 1D6 Hater Trolls appear and attack.

68 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:31:21pm

DanaHoule Dana Houle

Brilliant RT @owillis: liberal: sky is blue. con: sky is filled with socialist war eagles. media:opinions differ on sky composition.

69 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:31:23pm

re: #62 Alouette

I had to shut off the Twitter feed. Too much bad craziness erupting everywhere.

I don't do Twitter, or Facebook for that matter. I can barely manage my LGF posts.

70 Ojoe  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:32:26pm

Cloud Gloaming from the Towercam.

San Gabriel Mountains of California, Pacific time zone.

71 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:33:13pm

re: #57 reine.de.tout

hehe.

Actually, I have a few errands to run, and then daughter's end-of-semester-good-grades celebration dinner out. It's gonna be a busy day.

You can't just say "good" without going into more detail.

C'mon, kvell a little.

72 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:33:35pm

re: #59 b_sharp

I'm spending tomorrow in bed.

With Arnie's girlfriends.

The whole weird episode reminded me of a passage from Catch 22 regarding the maid in the lime green panties, "Her allure stemmed from her accessibility; like Mt. Everest, she was there, and the men climbed on top of her each time they felt the urge."

73 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:33:40pm

re: #69 NJDhockeyfan

I don't do Twitter, or Facebook for that matter. I can barely manage my LGF posts.

The ultimate in multitasking. I'm watching the Bruins too.

peace, but dude gotta call you out.

74 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:34:09pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

You know you've been magical balance fairying all day.

Why not just address the issue at hand rather than quote mining for some sort of balance to make you feel better?

The balance fairy has a bowler's arm from all the heavy lifting.

75 Ojoe  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:34:32pm

Harold Camping is nuts by the way.

76 Stanghazi  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:36:10pm

Oh, and I'm playing 5 games of words with friends.

77 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:36:19pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

The ultimate in multitasking. I'm watching the Bruins too.

peace, but dude gotta call you out.

I can drive my lawnmower, light a cigarette, and drink a beer without stopping. I know all about multitasking.

78 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:37:17pm

re: #75 Ojoe

Harold Camping is nuts by the way.

Reportedly has brought in $100 million to 'spread the word'.

79 jaunte  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:38:19pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Isn't it supposed to happen whether you get the word or not?

80 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:40:01pm

re: #64 reine.de.tout

Does your wife know about this?

Um, no?

81 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:40:01pm

re: #48 laZardo

To follow up on that, sometime after the oncoming Rapture the Philippine Congress will be holding our local equivalent of "town hall" meetings discussing the potential removal of economic restrictions.

What makes the Philippine scenario unique is that our Constitution has a provision that no foreigner can own land in the Philippines. This would - in the case of increasingly-capitalist Communist countries - be supplanted by the technicality that "foreigners can still own all of what they build on it through lease-hold and developing it is good for everyone!"

However it is also noted in our Constitution that no foreigner can own a majority of any business started here either.

Hence the uniqueness - we are the only country where economic restrictions require a constitutional amendment to change.

82 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:41:49pm

re: #75 Ojoe

Harold Camping is nuts by the way.

So is winter camping.

83 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:43:05pm

re: #77 NJDhockeyfan

I can drive my lawnmower, light a cigarette, and drink a beer without stopping. I know all about multitasking.

I can cross my eyes, rub my belly and pick my nose all at the same time.

84 Ojoe  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:43:19pm

re: #79 jaunte

Yes, and you'e SOL if your not one of the chosen, oh and by the way the whole world will be destroyed with all the raccoons and dolphins and sow bugs, which are all innocent as far as I can tell. According to H.C.

. . .

God obviously is not going to do this.

85 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:43:48pm

re: #82 b_sharp

So is winter camping.

Did that once as a Boy Scout. Nothing quite as...exhilarating as waking up to find out that the temp outside is -4 degrees and the ground is covered in snow.

86 hugh59  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:44:25pm

re: #51 NJDhockeyfan

Check this one out:

Juliet Echo Whiskey? Very touching. I happen to be one. I also happen to like whiskey...Canadian Whiskey for some reason.

One of the nice things about my shul is that after Saturday morning services they have a kiddish lunch. Over in one corner they have a table set up with several different kinds of wine or hard liquor. My wife and I typically have a shot or two of whiskey. The younger of our two rabbis leads the blessing over the hootch.

87 Ojoe  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:46:23pm

re: #86 hugh59

Catholics like to drink too. "Where there's 4 Catholics there's a fifth."

88 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:48:12pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Reportedly has brought in $100 million to 'spread the word'.

Camping is supposedly the warning shot. There are thousands of these billboards around the world:

[Link: www.abc.net.au...]

89 prairiefire  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:48:48pm

re: #65 HoosierHoops

LOL
I have an appointment with a doctor next Friday.. I think I'm in trouble either way...I feel sick inside...
Be brave Hoopster

Dude! Take care of yourself. Prayers.

90 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:49:04pm

re: #85 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Did that once as a Boy Scout. Nothing quite as...exhilarating as waking up to find out that the temp outside is -4 degrees and the ground is covered in snow.

Try it without putting something between your sleeping bag and the ground. Coldest lesson I ever learned.

91 Bear  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:49:18pm

LaZardo, I wonder where you are. Probably you have said a long while ago but do not recall it.

92 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:49:49pm

re: #91 Bear

Lots of hints in my #81. ;P

93 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:50:45pm

Tactics: The Aspect of the Shrieking Harpy will focus its attacks first on any Muslim character, to the exclusion of all others. If there are none, or if they are killed, the Harpy will target the weakest remaining character. The Harpy likes to use its Talons, saving the grab and drops for especially dangerous enemies. Once the Harpy is Bloodied (reduced to 200 hit points), it uses Burning Stupid more and tries to Head Butt). At any time, it may Summon Hater Trolls.

Special: If any player possesses the Ring of the Lizard King, a giant green hand appears as the Harpy first takes flight. A booming but pleasant voices calls out "Lunatic Pamus Reductus!", then the hand slams the Harpy to the ground for 100 points of damage. The Ring may take no further action in this battle.

Once the Harpy falls to zero hits points, its lets loose one last Shriek, so loud the players are automatically stunned (no save possible), then crumbles to dust. As the players stand stunned, the floor opens away from the and a huge dais is lifted into view.

To be continued next time. The players must disable the Astral Engine, as PALINDROME's God Golem comes to life.

94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:50:54pm

By the way. If the world did end on Saturday? Well? It'd be funny, wouldn't it?

95 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:51:00pm

Muslim convert charged with threats to 'South Park' creators

Federal authorities are using words uttered by the co-founder of a radical Islamic group to charge him with threats against the creators of "South Park."

A criminal complaint alleging the communication of threats was filed in Virginia late last week against Jesse Curtis Morton, also known as Younus Abdullah Mohammad.

A senior law enforcement source Thursday told CNN, which interviewed Morton in 2009, that the suspect is believed to be in Morocco, where he maintains Islampolicy.com, an English-language website propagating pro al Qaeda views.

That website is a successor to Revolutionmuslim.com.

Morton, a former resident of Brooklyn, New York, is the second person charged in the "South Park" case.

In February, Zachary Adam Chesser, 21, who admitted to posting online threats, was sentenced to 25 years in prison.

Chesser, a Muslim convert, encouraged violent jihadists to attack "South Park" writers for an episode that depicted the Prophet Mohammed in a bear suit, court documents said.

Chesser posted online messages that included the writers' home addresses and urged online readers to "pay them a visit," the documents said.

96 Bear  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:51:07pm

re: #92 laZardo

Sorry, I wondered what island.

97 prairiefire  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:52:32pm

re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By the way. If the world did end on Saturday? Well? It'd be funny, wouldn't it?

I've been talking my eight year old down from panic mode for the last two days. Apparently this is a big issue in 2nd grade.

98 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:52:33pm

re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By the way. If the world did end on Saturday? Well? It'd be funny, wouldn't it?

I'll laugh all the way to the bank to deposit the money collected from raptured wallets and purses.

99 lawhawk  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:52:42pm

I walk by this subway stop every day (2x a day) and never noticed this. Yet, apparently it's gotten some folks into a tizzy.

United Airlines apparently has an ad campaign - you'll like where we land - and have that print ad plastered on a subway stop entrance outside Ground Zero.

Not exactly the best product placement you can consider.

100 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:52:51pm

re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By the way. If the world did end on Saturday? Well? It'd be funny, wouldn't it?

Yeah, especially after I've spent years preparing for a party on Dec 22nd, 2012. It's just not fair!

101 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:53:11pm

re: #96 Bear

Sorry, I wondered what island.

Currently in Luzon. O:

102 Olsonist  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:54:28pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

A friend once forced me to play Words With Friends. It's so cool; you'll really like it. He found my iPhone and installed the app and then forced me to play. The game allowed him to play to two nondictionary words (text messaging abbreviations? I can't remember) and dinged me for a perfectly legal Scrabble word. I could go no further. I removed the app. I may have even rebooted the phone.

In Scrabble you can lie. It's cool to lie and get away with it. I still remember getting bluffed by my brother's girlfriend. Props.

103 prairiefire  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:54:52pm

re: #100 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, especially after I've spent years preparing for a party on Dec 22nd, 2012. It's just not fair!

What, you'll be 30? 40? 50? 60?

104 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:54:58pm

re: #98 b_sharp

I'll laugh all the way to the bank to deposit the money collected from raptured wallets and purses.

You mean one of the banks that haven't already been knocked over?

105 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:55:16pm

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

Muslim convert charged with threats to 'South Park' creators

I hope he enjoys prison. Thankfully, assholes like that running their mouths allows the FBI to remove them from the public sphere. DARWIN AKBAR!

106 Bear  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:55:23pm

re: #101 laZardo

Tnx. Was on the beach at Manila for about 4 hours. 1945

107 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:55:54pm

re: #103 prairiefire

What, you'll be 30? 40? 50? 60?

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I'm not worried about the world ending. I'm just pissed that I had all these plans for one big-ass blowout and now they're up and ruined. They sprung this May 21st business on me at the last second!

108 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:55:57pm

I'm an atheist. I'm not going anywhere on Saturday. Neither are all those cars and houses.

109 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 7:58:30pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

I hope he enjoys prison. Thankfully, assholes like that running their mouths allows the FBI to remove them from the public sphere. DARWIN AKBAR!

It's always the converts.

I know a guy who used to be a Mustang guy, then he converted to a Camaro guy. Now all he does is put down Mustangs and Mustang people. He's an anti-Mustang zealot.

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:00:37pm

re: #97 prairiefire

I've been talking my eight year old down from panic mode for the last two days. Apparently this is a big issue in 2nd grade.

This soothed my son when he was in the second grade and would get scared...

I'm glad I could help.

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:01:02pm

re: #109 b_sharp

Ex smokers.

112 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:02:22pm

re: #108 b_sharp

I'm an atheist. I'm not going anywhere on Saturday. Neither are all those cars and houses.

Just as well, the Good Christian Folk™ drive the dullest cars anyway.

113 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:02:31pm

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ex smokers.

We are, aren't we.

114 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:03:18pm

re: #112 laZardo

Just as well, the Good Christian Folk™ drive the dullest cars anyway.

They'll be collector's items.

115 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:05:31pm

re: #109 b_sharp

It's always the converts.

I know a guy who used to be a Mustang guy, then he converted to a Camaro guy. Now all he does is put down Mustangs and Mustang people. He's an anti-Mustang zealot.

There is no humor in Camaros. There is no fun in Camaros. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious. -- Ayatollah Hot Rod

116 prairiefire  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:08:32pm

Have a great Friday, lizards.

117 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:08:41pm

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

There is no humor in Camaros. There is no fun in Camaros. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious. -- Ayatollah Hot Rod

Famous hand book - 'How to Hotrod Small-block Camels'.

118 b_Snark  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:12:20pm

Nighty night.

119 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:12:38pm

So, what if the Rapture only takes the souls and leaves the bodies?

120 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:13:21pm

re: #115 NJDhockeyfan

There is no humor in Camaros. There is no fun in Camaros. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious. -- Ayatollah Hot Rod

Behead those who insult Chevrolet!

121 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:14:06pm

re: #119 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So, what if the Rapture only takes the souls and leaves the bodies?

The animals will have much to eat.

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:14:40pm

re: #119 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So, what if the Rapture only takes the souls and leaves the bodies?

Then we're gonna hafta clean up a lot of shit before we can start enjoying our free luxury cars and McMansions.

123 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:14:50pm

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

The animals will have much to eat.

Sky burial.

124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:15:49pm

re: #123 laZardo

Is it odd that I already know what that is, without clicking the link?

125 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:16:37pm

re: #124 Slumbering Behemoth

It was posted here before, I just never found a reason to have it posted again 'til now.

126 Olsonist  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:16:54pm

re: #119 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So, what if the Rapture only takes the souls and leaves the bodies?

Interesting question. Suppose A is married to B and B makes the rapture cut but A doesn't. Does A notice anything? Does pretty good sex become soulless sex, like she's not really there?

127 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:16:56pm

re: #121 NJDhockeyfan

Two words.

Soylent Green.

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:18:03pm

re: #123 laZardo

Sky burial.

Can I ask for that in America? I'd love to be fed to the critters after I'm gone. And I don't just mean the worms...

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:18:45pm

re: #125 laZardo

I'm sure I've posted about it here before. One of those things one stumbles upon while reading through a Cracked article.

130 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:19:00pm

Well, I mean, what if there ends up being no more room in Hell?

131 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:19:04pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can I ask for that in America? I'd love to be fed to the critters after I'm gone. And I don't just mean the worms...

You should be fed to the vegetarian critters.

132 Ojoe  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:19:15pm

BB Tomorrow.

and the next day,

and the day after that.

Good night all.

133 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:21:32pm

'Israeli security can’t be maintained within ’67 lines'

United States President Barack Obama cannot be committed to Israel’s security if he calls for a return to the pre- 1967 lines, said Dani Dayan who heads the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip.

“You cannot guarantee Israel’s security and talk about the ’67 borders because one contradicts the other,” Dayan said.

Before he became prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu wrote and spoke about the existential threat of a Palestinian state, and he should use those words when he meets with Obama on Friday, Dayan added.

In addition, he warned, it would be a mistake for Netanyahu to follow Obama’s blueprint to peace, in which he suggests that Israel first make concessions on borders and then deal with the other two issues of conflict with the Palestinians: the question of Jerusalem, and Palestinian refugees.

If Israel strips itself of its assets, it weakens Israel’s stance in negotiations and leaves it nothing to bargain with when it comes to these two other issues, he said.

Samaria Citizens Committee head Benny Katzover similarly warned Netanyahu against falling into the borders first trap.

Once an agreement on borders is concluded, the Palestinians will walk away from the talks over the issue of Jerusalem and refugees, he said.

134 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:22:23pm

re: #126 Olsonist

Interesting question. Suppose A is married to B and B makes the rapture cut but A doesn't. Does A notice anything? Does pretty good sex become soulless sex, like she's not really there?

Those who know say the bodies go--in fact the resurrected dead bodies of the faithful go first, minimizing the zombie problem.

135 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:23:11pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Those who know say the bodies go--in fact the resurrected dead bodies of the faithful go first, minimizing the zombie problem.

Well, what about the unfaithful? Do they get resurrected or stay firmly planted?

136 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:23:38pm

re: #130 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, I mean, what if there ends up being no more room in Hell?

Then the Dead will walk the Earth. That's right, the Family Radio Rapture is followed by the Zombie Apocalypse!

/

137 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:24:01pm

re: #71 sagehen

You can't just say "good" without going into more detail.

C'mon, kvell a little.

Very very good, couldn't be better, actually. And one of her courses was calculus. CALCULUS! My daughter has a mother who can't subtract anything from anything and get it right without a calculator - and she aced calculus. Sheesh. I should probably quit worrying about her.

138 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:24:15pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Coffin: A device by which the undertaker deprives the bereaved of their money, and the worms of their meal.

139 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:25:58pm

re: #135 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, what about the unfaithful? Do they get resurrected or stay firmly planted?

Everyone gets resurrected, only the faithful get to enjoy it. The timing varies, that's why Camping has the total, final, no-shit End in October.

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:26:05pm

re: #131 NJDhockeyfan

You should be fed to the vegetarian critters.

I don't think that word means what you think that word means.

141 reine.de.tout  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:26:24pm

re: #138 Slumbering Behemoth

Coffin: A device by which the undertaker deprives the bereaved of their money, and the worms of their meal.

Worms in S. La. don't get a meal anyhoo; half the cemeteries are above ground 'cause if you dig a couple of feet, you hit water.

142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:26:54pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Then the Dead will walk the Earth. That's right, the Family Radio Rapture is followed by the Zombie Apocalypse!

/

Double Tap.

143 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:27:35pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Then the Dead will walk the Earth. That's right, the Family Radio Rapture is followed by the Zombie Apocalypse!

/


Get the CDC's survival guidelines!

CDC offers survival advice in zombie preparedness campaign

Late spring in the United States means preparing for natural disasters like floods, hurricanes, tornadoes and now … a zombie apocalypse.

Should such a takeover occur, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this week announced a few important ghoul-survival guidelines.

"Plan your evacuation route. When zombies are hungry, they won't stop until they get food (i.e., brains), which means you need to get out of town fast!" reads a blog post by Assistant Surgeon General Ali Khan. "Plan where you would go and multiple routes you would take ahead of time so that the flesh eaters don't have a chance!"

If this seems like a hoax, it's not, CDC spokesman Dave Daigle said. The communications team fleshed out the zombie preparedness campaign after noticing a spike in Internet traffic when the monsters were mentioned during an online session about Japan and radiation.

144 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:27:40pm

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Everyone gets resurrected, only the faithful get to enjoy it. The timing varies, that's why Camping has the total, final, no-shit End in October.

Oh goodie. Guess that will make tomorrow the true Night of the Living Dead.

145 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:28:36pm

re: #144 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh goodie. Guess that will make tomorrow the true Night of the Living Dead.

I'll alert KDKA news.

146 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:29:22pm

re: #130 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Well, I mean, what if there ends up being no more room in Hell?

I swear, if I see a Pat Robertson zombie on the same day as a Jerry Falwell zombie, I will declare that the first official, national holiday in the post-apoc world.

147 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:33:11pm

re: #144 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh goodie. Guess that will make tomorrow the true Night of the Living Dead.

As long as you don't do a strip tease for your punk-rock buddies at the local grave yard, you should be fine.

148 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:33:33pm

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

Get the CDC's survival guidelines!

CDC offers survival advice in zombie preparedness campaign

Other key rule: In case of Zombies, guns are your friend, regardless of what the CDC says.

149 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:34:04pm

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

monsters were mentioned during an online session about Japan and radiation.

...I don't think it's the zombies we should be worried about.

150 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:34:13pm

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

As long as you don't do a strip tease for your punk-rock buddies at the local grave yard, you should be fine.

And if you see a guy who looks like he's been dipped in tar, run the other way...FAST!

151 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:34:50pm

'Nite, all. Here's a rather sad story from a reporter embedded with Camping's holy rollers in NYC:

[Link: providence.thephoenix.com...]

152 freetoken  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:35:38pm

'Father' of the digital camera dies

Willard S. Boyle, who won a Nobel Prize in physics for the invention of the imaging device at the heart of digital cameras, has died in Canada, friends said.

[...]

Boyle and his colleague George E. Smith won the Nobel Prize in 2009 for their work on the charge-coupled device, or CCD, found in a range of products from point-and-shoot cameras to bar-code readers, smartphones, photocopiers and medical imaging devices.

[...]

153 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:35:59pm

re: #149 laZardo

...I don't think it's the zombies we should be worried about.

That should be Godzilla!

154 laZardo  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:36:51pm

re: #153 NJDhockeyfan

That should be Godzilla!

I was thinking tentacle monsters, but Godzilla is close.

155 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:38:01pm

Whiny-ass lib Ted Rall is bitching about Obama...

RISE OF THE OBAMABOTS

After they called the presidency for Obama, emails poured in. "You must be relieved now that the Democrats are taking over," an old college buddy told me. "There will be less pressure on you."

That would have been nice.

In the late 1990s my cartoons ran in Time, Fortune and Bloomberg Personal magazines and over 100 daily and alternative weekly newspapers. I was a staff writer for two major magazines.

Then Bush came in. And 9/11 happened.

The media gorged on an orgy of psychotic right-wing rhetoric. Flags everywhere. Torture suddenly OK. In a nation where mainstream political discourse was redefined between Dick Cheney on the right and libertarian Bill Maher on the not-as-right, there wasn't any room in the paper for a left-of-center cartoonist. My business was savaged. Income plunged.

My editor at Time called me on September 13, 2001. "We're discontinuing all cartoons," she told me. I was one of four cartoonists at the newsweekly. "Humor is dead." I snorted. They never brought back cartoons.

McCarthyism--blackballing--made a big comeback. I had been drawing a monthly comic strip, "The Testosterone Diaries," for Men's Health. No politics. It was about guy stuff: dating, job insecurity, prostate tests, that sort of thing. They fired me. Not because of anything I drew for them. It was because of my syndicated editorial cartoons, which attacked Bush and his policies. The publisher worried about pissing off right-wingers during a period of nationalism on steroids.

Desperate and going broke, I called an editor who'd given me lots of work at the magazines he ran during the 1990s. "Sorry, dude, I can't help," he replied. "You're radioactive."

It was tempting, when Obama's Democrats swept into office in 2008, to think that the bad old days were coming to an end. I wasn't looking for any favors, just a swing of the political pendulum back to the Clinton years when it was still OK to be a liberal.

This, you have no doubt correctly guessed, is the part where I tell you I was wrong.

I didn't count on the cult of personality around Barack Obama.

[snip]

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:38:27pm

re: #150 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

We're right on the same wavelength.

send more cops

157 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:41:27pm

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

We're right on the same wavelength.

send more cops

Heh. Netflix put up Night of the Living Dead and Return of the Living Dead recently. Figure I might spend tomorrow night vegging on zombie flicks as I wait for midnight to arrive.

158 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:42:32pm

re: #157 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Heh. Netflix put up Night of the Living Dead and Return of the Living Dead recently. Figure I might spend tomorrow night vegging on zombie flicks as I wait for midnight to arrive.

Actually, it's supposed to begin at 6:00p on Saturday (just so you know).

159 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:43:51pm

re: #158 marjoriemoon

Actually, it's supposed to begin at 6:00p on Saturday (just so you know).

Time zone: UTC +12 (I don't know what that is)

[Link: www.google.com...]

160 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:44:15pm

re: #155 NJDhockeyfan

Rall can go choke on a brontosaurus dick.

It was tempting, when Obama's Democrats swept into office in 2008, to think that the bad old days were coming to an end. I wasn't looking for any favors, just a swing of the political pendulum back to the Clinton years when it was still OK to be a liberal.

There was nothing wrong with being a reasonable liberal during the Bush years, nor is there now. But you, Rall, became a toxic, racist, hateful pile of shit that no one wanted to touch, and you have only yourself to blame for it.

/rant off

161 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:46:26pm

re: #158 marjoriemoon

Actually, it's supposed to begin at 6:00p on Saturday (just so you know).

Wait, the Rapture's supposed to happen around supper time? Now that ain't right!

162 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:47:59pm

re: #158 marjoriemoon

Actually, it's supposed to begin at 6:00p on Saturday (just so you know).

That's when I stop working. I'll try to make it home early so I can watch it from my front porch.

163 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:51:23pm

re: #161 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

re: #162 NJDhockeyfan

lol

Since "familyradio.com" is plastered over every sign and billboard these people carry/put up, you don't suppose this is all just a giant ploy to win over some followers? Ya think, maybe?

Hell of a campaign (pun intended). But if you want your message to get across, maybe it's not so dumb. "Eat at Arbys! The world is ending on May 21" or "Shop at Macys before the Rapture begins!"

164 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:52:18pm

re: #158 marjoriemoon

Actually, it's supposed to begin at 6:00p on Saturday (just so you know).

Pacific Standard Time or what?

165 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:52:44pm

re: #161 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Wait, the Rapture's supposed to happen around supper time? Now that ain't right!

Supper time, on a fucking Saturday. I'd have thought the Good Lord would have had the common decency to do this at 11:30 AM, Monday morning, so everyone could see the look on their bosses faces. But NOOO!

Further proof that God hates us all.
/

166 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:54:46pm

re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth

Rall can go choke on a brontosaurus dick.

There was nothing wrong with being a reasonable liberal during the Bush years, nor is there now. But you, Rall, became a toxic, racist, hateful pile of shit that no one wanted to touch, and you have only yourself to blame for it.

/rant off

Quite Concur. Rall is a vile man and he made himself into a pariah by being viscous and nasty.

167 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:54:49pm

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

Pacific Standard Time or what?

Well according to those links, I'm not sure anyone really knows.

168 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:55:53pm

re: #159 marjoriemoon

Time zone: UTC +12 (I don't know what that is)

[Link: www.google.com...]

Got it, so about 11AM on the West Coast.

169 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:56:09pm

re: #167 marjoriemoon

Well according to those links, I'm not sure anyone really knows.

How does God know what time it is? Does God wear a Rolex or use an atomic clock?

170 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:56:24pm

Locker put up a post with pics of believers.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Look at the merchandising. Hats, shirts, jackets. Camping is a genius, a dirty, rotten scoundrel, but a smart one.

171 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:56:47pm

re: #157 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Heh. Netflix put up Night of the Living Dead and Return of the Living Dead recently. Figure I might spend tomorrow night vegging on zombie flicks as I wait for midnight to arrive.

They recently put up Gone With the Wind....... Frankly my dear I should watch it since I've never seen it........ but damn it's about 4 hours long.

172 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:57:14pm

re: #155 NJDhockeyfan

Rall seems to be suffering from some kind of prolonged, adolescent, schizophrenic episode. It's apparent that in his mind, he lost work not because of his offensive product, but because of some grand conspiracy leveraged against him.

173 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:58:05pm

re: #171 Mr Pancakes

They recently put up Gone With the Wind... Frankly my dear I should watch it since I've never seen it... but damn it's about 4 hours long.

Yeah, 4 hours is not something I'm really willing to invest just to say that I've seen a classic movie.

174 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 19, 2011 8:59:07pm

Falling asleep. Have a great night and avoid the zombies at all costs.

175 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:00:06pm

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

Falling asleep. Have a great night and avoid the zombies at all costs.

Niterz.... and NEVER put cheese in a taco dude.

176 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:01:31pm

re: #171 Mr Pancakes

Never seen it either. That damn film is responsible for giving birth to the MPAA. But I suppose that was bound to happen eventually.

177 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:01:38pm

speaking of zombies

178 makeitstop  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:03:39pm

re: #40 NJDhockeyfan

I've been reading comments at MSNBC. Check out this beauty...

HuffPo member?

'Olias of Sunhillow?' John Anderson's solo album?

Really?

179 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:04:20pm

re: #176 Slumbering Behemoth

Never seen it either. That damn film is responsible for giving birth to the MPAA. But I suppose that was bound to happen eventually.

Damn is on par with fuck and shit to my wife....... she's Spanish speaking..... just something about that word makes her bristle for some reason. So I use it a lot when I'm mad.

180 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:04:39pm

The 19 best unintentionally sexual church signs:

[Link: www.someecards.com...]

181 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:05:12pm

re: #177 WindUpBird

No matter what negative things I may feel compelled to say about you, you have impeccable taste in metal.

182 Ojoe  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:07:15pm

Harold Camping = flaming asshole.

183 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:10:06pm

re: #182 Ojoe

Harold Camping = rich, flaming asshole that fleeced his zombie flock.

ATFY

184 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:10:24pm

re: #182 Ojoe

Harold Camping = flaming asshole.

And notorious thread killer to boot.

185 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:12:08pm

I wonder what Blondie is doing Saturday night.

186 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:12:52pm

re: #181 Slumbering Behemoth

No matter what negative things I may feel compelled to say about you, you have impeccable taste in metal.

Stuck pig grunter......

187 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:15:01pm

re: #171 Mr Pancakes

They recently put up Gone With the Wind... Frankly my dear I should watch it since I've never seen it... but damn it's about 4 hours long.

It's actually pretty entertaining, if you can handwave the very 1939 attitudes about race and gender. The stars can actually act, the cinematography and special effects stand up surprisingly well, the costumes are spectacular (especially Scarlett's green and white dress she made had Mammy make from the curtains, and the matching hat), and Sherman burns Atlanta to charcoal.

188 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:16:48pm

re: #185 marjoriemoon

I promised I wouldn't tell.

re: #186 Mr Pancakes

When it comes to that style, I am forever a Chuck fan.

189 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:16:54pm

re: #187 sagehen

It's actually pretty entertaining, if you can handwave the very 1939 attitudes about race and gender. The stars can actually act, the cinematography and special effects stand up surprisingly well, the costumes are spectacular (especially Scarlett's green and white dress she made had Mammy make from the curtains, and the matching hat), and Sherman burns Atlanta to charcoal.

Yea..... I'll watch it..... I will just have to watch it in pieces. God bless you Netflix...... it picks back up where you left off.

190 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:16:58pm

re: #186 Mr Pancakes

this is pretty good, reminds me of Obituary

191 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:18:26pm

re: #181 Slumbering Behemoth

No matter what negative things I may feel compelled to say about you, you have impeccable taste in metal.

^_^;;

Aaagh what am i listening to now...mostly a ton of Wino's various bands, Hidden Hand/Spirit Caravan/Shrinebuilder/Obsessed, I'm just having a ball going through his whole catalog of 70's doom and groovy psychedelic stuff

192 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:18:44pm

re: #189 Mr Pancakes

Yea... I'll watch it... I will just have to watch it in pieces. God bless you Netflix... it picks back up where you left off.

I especially love Netflix because when I don't have a DVD, I can watch through my XBox, iPod, or computer.

193 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:20:38pm

re: #188 Slumbering Behemoth

Chuck was the master *_*

never saw Chuck live, but I saw half of the Human lineup live (aka Cynic)

194 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:20:54pm

re: #192 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I especially love Netflix because when I don't have a DVD, I can watch through my XBox, iPod, or computer.

No kidding..... $10 a month?..... It's an all you can watch buffet.

195 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:21:29pm

re: #194 Mr Pancakes

No kidding... $10 a month?... It's an all you can watch buffet.

Every Mighty Boosh and IT Crowd is on Netflix, that alone is like a year's worth of entertainment

196 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:22:19pm

re: #190 WindUpBird

this is pretty good, reminds me of Obituary

My wife frowns on this stuff ...... so I encourage her to go shopping.

197 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:22:40pm

re: #194 Mr Pancakes

No kidding... $10 a month?... It's an all you can watch buffet.

And for another $10, I can pull up HuluPlus as well on my XBox or iPad and catch up on some shows I've missed. Like the last four episodes of House.

198 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:23:38pm

re: #196 Mr Pancakes

My wife frowns on this stuff ... so I encourage her to go shopping.

Not for everyone, I guess!

I went back and listened to a bunch of Entombed and Morbid Angel a while ago, they still hold up, Trey is such a crazygood guitarist

199 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:25:42pm

re: #197 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And for another $10, I can pull up HuluPlus as well on my XBox or iPad and catch up on some shows I've missed. Like the last four episodes of House.

I'm more of a movie person than a TV person.... but there's lot of free Hulu that I've watched. For sports which is my other interest, there's ATDHE.

200 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:25:53pm

re: #198 WindUpBird

Not for everyone, I guess!

I went back and listened to a bunch of Entombed and Morbid Angel a while ago, they still hold up, Trey is such a crazygood guitarist

You have odd tastes, WUB.

201 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:26:41pm

re: #193 WindUpBird

I saw 'em live, at the Maritime Hall in S.F., 1998.

IN. YO. FACE.
/

202 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:27:49pm

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

You have odd tastes, WUB.

Been playing metal (drums, vocals, guitar-but-not-well) for twenty years, not odd to me

203 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:28:07pm

re: #201 Slumbering Behemoth

I saw 'em live, at the Maritime Hall in S.F., 1998.

IN. YO. FACE.
/

waaagh

204 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:29:00pm

I like the heaven of "The Lovely Bones" a lot more than I like the heaven described by most pastors and priests. The clergy describe heaven as a place with no want or worry, no guilt, no pain, not even for those members of your family or spouse who might be missing. Personally I'd rather feel pain and get over it than suddenly become a lobotomized zombie soul whose only desire is to worship at Gods feet 24/7.

If heaven is the way that a lot of the clergy describe it then why would anyone want to go there? Couldn't God just create a bunch of mindless zombies to worship and adore him instead, why would he need us to do it? If heaven really is "heaven" then we would still be ourselves and unique as individuals while somehow being cured of base urges. My two cents anyway...

(then there is RaptureReady where they constantly talk about how much fun they will have laughing at the sinners as they are thrown into the lake of fire and relish their agony. Christians they are not, a-social psychotics is a more accurate description.)

205 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:29:30pm

re: #200 Dark_Falcon

You have odd tastes, WUB.

I like to get reactions from people when I tell them I have music that makes Metallica sound like Barry Manilow.

206 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:29:52pm

re: #204 ausador

a lot of that rapture stuff seems to be coming from one guy's (familyradio.com) crazyass schitck, I thought

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:30:22pm

OK, coming back.

Can someone explain to me what everyone here believes Obama meant when he said 'the '67 lines'? People were getting hysterical earlier, and I asked a couple times and could not get an answer.

208 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:30:53pm

re: #205 Mr Pancakes

I like to get reactions from people when I tell them I have music that makes Metallica sound like Barry Manilow.

That does not sound that far-fetched to me. I mean, I listen to Metallica.

209 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:31:10pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, coming back.

Can someone explain to me what everyone here believes Obama meant when he said 'the '67 lines'? People were getting hysterical earlier, and I asked a couple times and could not get an answer.

Oh oh....... politics on an open thread.
/

210 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:31:46pm

re: #205 Mr Pancakes

I like to get reactions from people when I tell them I have music that makes Metallica sound like Barry Manilow.

I'm probably going to see Bodom/Devin Townsend/Obscura in Portland, Obscura might be up your alley if you haven't heard them already ^^

211 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:31:58pm

re: #209 Mr Pancakes

Oh oh... politics on an open thread.
/

This isn't even politics. It's geography. I can drop it if people want, I just can't figure out what everyone was focused on.

212 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:32:34pm

re: #208 SanFranciscoZionist

That does not sound that far-fetched to me. I mean, I listen to Metallica.

Hopefully Puppets, that's the only record of theirs I'm not burned out on *_*

213 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:32:50pm

re: #208 SanFranciscoZionist

That does not sound that far-fetched to me. I mean, I listen to Metallica.

I love Metallica..... I even got my wife to like a couple of songs "Nothing Else Matters" and "Unforgiven" (org).

214 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:33:21pm

re: #211 SanFranciscoZionist

This isn't even politics. It's geography. I can drop it if people want, I just can't figure out what everyone was focused on.

I was only jokin' ya.

215 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:33:56pm

re: #213 Mr Pancakes

I have a massive soft spot for Jason Newsted, after he discovered Thought Industry, and if that wasn't enough, he left Metallica to join Voivod! I'll just have hearts in my eyes for that guy forever

216 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:35:00pm

re: #203 WindUpBird

The Bay Area was weird then. Me and my metal road dog would go to SF all the time to see Slayer, TOOL, Sepultura, Death, you name it. We'd rush the pit, and the atmosphere was great. Just a bunch of hessians, bruising each other up and helping each other off the floor.

Then we'd go see a lot of the same bands in San Jose. Always thick with skin heads and neo-nazis. Him not being white, and me being an obvious race traitor, we never went anywhere near the pit, and always watched each other's back on the way out.

217 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:35:04pm

re: #206 WindUpBird

a lot of that rapture stuff seems to be coming from one guy's (familyradio.com) crazyass schitck, I thought

Harold Camping

Interview here...

[Link: nymag.com...]

218 [deleted]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:35:16pm
219 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:37:12pm

re: #216 Slumbering Behemoth

yeek o_o

I saw bands in Seattle, it was all just stoners, never had a problem, the closest I ever got to being attacked was a guy who mistook me for someone else he apparently hated at a Testament show, turned me around and then went OH SORRY MAN!!!!

220 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:37:32pm

re: #215 WindUpBird

I have a massive soft spot for Jason Newsted, after he discovered Thought Industry, and if that wasn't enough, he left Metallica to join Voivod! I'll just have hearts in my eyes for that guy forever

He was treated like shit by Hetfield...... I'm glad he moved on. His first band was Flotsam and Jetsam.

221 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:37:58pm

re: #217 ausador

it's always ancient old fossils who predict the end of the world, hahaha

222 Dark_Falcon  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:38:09pm

re: #204 ausador

I like the heaven of "The Lovely Bones" a lot more than I like the heaven described by most pastors and priests. The clergy describe heaven as a place with no want or worry, no guilt, no pain, not even for those members of your family or spouse who might be missing. Personally I'd rather feel pain and get over it than suddenly become a lobotomized zombie soul whose only desire is to worship at Gods feet 24/7.

If heaven is the way that a lot of the clergy describe it then why would anyone want to go there? Couldn't God just create a bunch of mindless zombies to worship and adore him instead, why would he need us to do it? If heaven really is "heaven" then we would still be ourselves and unique as individuals while somehow being cured of base urges. My two cents anyway...

(then there is RaptureReady where they constantly talk about how much fun they will have laughing at the sinners as they are thrown into the lake of fire and relish their agony. Christians they are not, a-social psychotics is a more accurate description.)

I dunno. I tend to think of Heaven as someplace I want people to go to, but that I do not expect to see. For all that I try, I'm still too much the asshole to get in. But I don't let that stop me from doing right when i do see a chance to do so. I can't do enough good to offset the wrong I do, but I can lessen the burdens I impose and I do that, while trying to burden others less.

223 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:38:47pm

re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, coming back.

Can someone explain to me what everyone here believes Obama meant when he said 'the '67 lines'? People were getting hysterical earlier, and I asked a couple times and could not get an answer.

Inside the 67 lines doesn't include all those extra spots of isolated settlements and the restricted roads that go to them, and maybe a few blocks of East Jerusalem where they've been building (I assume the EJ parts will be part of the land swap, and the middle-of-WB settlements will just be ready housing for the Palestinians who'll move in when the settlers get dragged out).

224 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:38:53pm

re: #220 Mr Pancakes

He was treated like shit by Hetfield... I'm glad he moved on. His first band was Flotsam and Jetsam.

Oh dude I saw Flotsam live :D I'm a giant dork for Flotsam

And yeah, hetfield just sounds like the most insufferable human being

225 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:39:02pm

re: #213 Mr Pancakes

I love Metallica... I even got my wife to like a couple of songs "Nothing Else Matters" and "Unforgiven" (org).

I'm sorry, but that is "McTallica" you are referring to.

Metallica ceased to be when this man died.

226 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:40:35pm

re: #220 Mr Pancakes

SPEAKING OF WHICH


This is one of the most overlooked albums in all of heavy metal

227 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:40:47pm

re: #223 sagehen

Inside the 67 lines doesn't include all those extra spots of isolated settlements and the restricted roads that go to them, and maybe a few blocks of East Jerusalem where they've been building (I assume the EJ parts will be part of the land swap, and the middle-of-WB settlements will just be ready housing for the Palestinians who'll move in when the settlers get dragged out).

So we're actually talking about the Green Line, but with land swaps to accomodate the big settlement blocks?

228 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:41:53pm

I have been working all day and night, but was listening to the BBC World Service on my ride home. The announcer and his guests seem to believe that President Obama said that the borders of Israel/Palestine would be drawn in a way that strongly suggested the worst for Israel. Granted, the Beeb always seems to interpret things through their anti Israel prism. But if our President, who usually says "let me be clear" at some point in his major speeches wants this point to be clear to all, he may have to do the work of publicly clarifying it so everyone knows exactly what he means. I would think this would be very important to him.

229 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:43:51pm

re: #220 Mr Pancakes

Hetfield is a douche. His only redeeming quality is his ability to sing well while playing that kind of rhythm guitar.

Heh.

230 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:44:10pm

re: #225 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm sorry, but that is "McTallica" you are referring to.

Metallica ceased to be when this man died.

Dude let's not go there....... I know where you are coming from, and I know the debate.......

231 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:44:40pm

re: #230 Mr Pancakes

psst



flots til death

232 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:46:07pm

re: #227 SanFranciscoZionist

So we're actually talking about the Green Line, but with land swaps to accomodate the big settlement blocks?

That's what it sounded like to me... the "settlements" that are really just cities near the line expanding over the line, Israel is justified in wanting the keep. The settlements that are a distance away, and need a special road nobody else can use, not so much.

233 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:46:55pm

re: #230 Mr Pancakes

No debate. I have a delusion, I know this. I embrace it.

234 Fozzie Bear  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:47:52pm

re: #97 prairiefire

I've been talking my eight year old down from panic mode for the last two days. Apparently this is a big issue in 2nd grade.

This will be a valuable learning experience for them the, when not a damn thing happens. The lesson: don't listen to ANY predictions borne of religious conviction. They never pan out. Ever.

Prophesy ain't real, kids.

235 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:47:52pm

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

I think Cliff was the best writer in the band, I like some of the black album/Justice stuff, but he was the theory guy, nobody else in the band was capable of Orion or Call of Ktulu

236 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:47:53pm

re: #232 sagehen

That's what it sounded like to me... the "settlements" that are really just cities near the line expanding over the line, Israel is justified in wanting the keep. The settlements that are a distance away, and need a special road nobody else can use, not so much.

OK, that sounds like what I heard. Folks here were not making much sense for a while.

237 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:48:35pm

re: #234 Fozzie Bear

This will be a valuable learning experience for them the, when not a damn thing happens. The lesson: don't listen to ANY predictions borne of religious conviction. They never pan out. Ever.

Prophesy ain't real, kids.

238 BongCrodny  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:51:04pm

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Double Tap.


They should get Wesley Snipes for the next Zombieland.

That whole "sovereign citizen" thing would play well in a world overrun by zombies.

239 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:53:29pm

re: #235 WindUpBird

Simpatico. And a lot of the stuff from "And Justice..." was music Cliff wrote. The other guys are great metal musicians in their own right, but Cliff was clearly the creative genius.

240 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:53:36pm

re: #235 WindUpBird

I think Cliff was the best writer in the band, I like some of the black album/Justice stuff, but he was the theory guy, nobody else in the band was capable of Orion or Call of Ktulu

Bob Rock did a great job on the Black Album methinks....... Load not so much.

Here's an 80's song with Bob Rock........ I liked this 80's (not really) classic song.

241 Fozzie Bear  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:53:41pm

re: #238 BongCrodny

They should get Wesley Snipes for the next Zombieland.

That whole "sovereign citizen" thing would play well in a world overrun by zombies.

It would be hilarious if Sniped had a part in such a movie, and his role was self-referential. As in, his character is him, and the character plays the part like a crazy "sovereign citizen". Not only would it be ironic, but it would be extra funny because isn't everybody sovereign in a zombie apocalypse?

242 Fozzie Bear  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:55:05pm

re: #241 Fozzie Bear

Sort of like how Bill Murray plays an extra-artsy version of himself in Zombieland, to the point where he takes pride in being able to effectively imitate a zombie to escape detection.

243 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:57:36pm

re: #242 Fozzie Bear

Sort of like how Bill Murray plays an extra-artsy version of himself in Zombieland, to the point where he takes pride in being able to effectively imitate a zombie to escape detection.

Just so long as you don't hit him with a golf club.

244 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:58:00pm

re: #236 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, that sounds like what I heard. Folks here were not making much sense for a while.

Since he predicated any deal on the negotiators for a future Palestinian State recognizing Israel's right to exist he might as well have told the Israelis to keep on keepin' on. All this talk about where negotiating the borders should start is kind of putting the cart before the horse, when the horse is really a mule with two broken legs.

245 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:59:04pm

re: #204 ausador

Ever attend a wedding where you heard The Worst Wedding Toast ever? Well I had the displeasure to witness The Worst Eulogy Ever.

It was given by an evangelist preacher for my g/f's husband who passed. A young man, in his 50s, and my g/f was in her early 40s. They were married 20 odd years and she was beyond devastated as you can imagine. The preacher wasn't her preacher. She didn't attend church. He was a preacher from a friend's church.

He had this bizarre affect where he grinned uncontrollably through the entire eulogy. He spoke about how there was no cholesterol in heaven. No diabetes or heart attacks The deceased, btw, passed from pancreatic cancer so I had no idea where this came from. Where there is a Dunkin Donuts on every corner and the streets are paved with delicious pastries. He went on like this for 20 minutes. It was the most weird and uncomfortable thing I ever witnessed by a clergy.

And I was strangely hungry after.

Personally, I believe heaven to be an ethereal place where God exists in a form of light and being near that light is where all the bliss takes place. Beyond that, I can't be too sure.

246 BongCrodny  Thu, May 19, 2011 9:59:15pm

re: #241 Fozzie Bear

It would be hilarious if Sniped had a part in such a movie, and his role was self-referential. As in, his character is him, and the character plays the part like a crazy "sovereign citizen". Not only would it be ironic, but it would be extra funny because isn't everybody sovereign in a zombie apocalypse?


"Always bet on dead."

247 Lidane  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:06:12pm

Obama’s Call For Israeli & Palestinian Borders To Be ‘Based On The 1967 Lines’ Mirrors Bush, Clinton Policy

Today in his speech on the Middle East and North Africa, President Obama said that “a lasting peace” between the Israelis and the Palestinians “will involve two states” and that “the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines.”

For some reason, the Beltway media is treating this as some kind of breaking news. Foreign Policy reported that Obama is altering U.S. policy, and the Washington Post claimed that the Obama administration referred to the 1967 border as part of the solution “[f]or the first time.”

Next came the right-wing outrage that Obama hates Israel. Matt Drudge published the talking points soon after the speech ended with the headline, “Obama sides with Palestine.” Mitt Romney then accused Obama of “throwing Israel under the bus.” Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) said Obama “betrayed” Israel, saying on Twitter, “Obama’s call for 1967 borders will cause chaos, division & more aggression in Middle East & put Israel at further risk.” The far-right Simon Wiesenthal Center, which purports to promote tolerance, basically called Obama a Nazi, saying that “Israel should reject a return to 1967 ‘Auschwitz’ borders.”

But Obama’s pronouncement today isn’t new. Even President Bush in 2005 endorsed a two-state solution with negotiations based on the post-1949 Armistice, pre-1967 borders.

248 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:10:47pm

Enough metal shop talk for now. G'nite all.

249 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:11:14pm

Evening all!

How is everyone?

250 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:11:22pm

re: #245 marjoriemoon

Ever attend a wedding where you heard The Worst Wedding Toast ever? Well I had the displeasure to witness The Worst Eulogy Ever.

It was given by an evangelist preacher for my g/f's husband who passed. A young man, in his 50s, and my g/f was in her early 40s. They were married 20 odd years and she was beyond devastated as you can imagine. The preacher wasn't her preacher. She didn't attend church. He was a preacher from a friend's church.

He had this bizarre affect where he grinned uncontrollably through the entire eulogy. He spoke about how there was no cholesterol in heaven. No diabetes or heart attacks The deceased, btw, passed from pancreatic cancer so I had no idea where this came from. Where there is a Dunkin Donuts on every corner and the streets are paved with delicious pastries. He went on like this for 20 minutes. It was the most weird and uncomfortable thing I ever witnessed by a clergy.

And I was strangely hungry after.

Personally, I believe heaven to be an ethereal place where God exists in a form of light and being near that light is where all the bliss takes place. Beyond that, I can't be too sure.

Wow...... my vision of heaven isn't healthy donuts, bacon maybe, but not donuts.


The most uncomfortable I ever felt at a funeral was when a neighbor friend of mine (when I lived in Mexico) was ambushed and shot by a jealous husband..... my friend had told his brother before, that he wanted a party at his funeral (he was just in his early twenties)....... people were partying and pouring beer on his casket in the ground ....... I left....... they fulfilled his dream I guess, but it seemed weird.

251 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:15:28pm

re: #247 Lidane

Obama’s Call For Israeli & Palestinian Borders To Be ‘Based On The 1967 Lines’ Mirrors Bush, Clinton Policy

I was working and did not see the speech. Did the President mention anti Semitic incitement and indoctrination by the Pals and/or the media in the region? That is a huge part of the problem.

252 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:16:07pm

re: #250 Mr Pancakes

Wow... my vision of heaven isn't healthy donuts, bacon maybe, but not donuts.

The most uncomfortable I ever felt at a funeral was when a neighbor friend of mine (when I lived in Mexico) was ambushed and shot by a jealous husband... my friend had told his brother before, that he wanted a party at his funeral (he was just in his early twenties)... people were partying and pouring beer on his casket in the ground ... I left... they fulfilled his dream I guess, but it seemed weird.

Yikes. I think that would freak me out a little.

I want everyone wailing, screaming, crying and rendering their garments at my funeral. Poised over the grave, ready to sacrifice themselves. MISS ME, I SAY! lol

253 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:16:22pm

re: #250 Mr Pancakes

Wow... my vision of heaven isn't healthy donuts, bacon maybe, but not donuts.

The most uncomfortable I ever felt at a funeral was when a neighbor friend of mine (when I lived in Mexico) was ambushed and shot by a jealous husband... my friend had told his brother before, that he wanted a party at his funeral (he was just in his early twenties)... people were partying and pouring beer on his casket in the ground ... I left... they fulfilled his dream I guess, but it seemed weird.

Yes, the Hells Angels version of a New Orleans funeral.

Somehow, I thought Heaven was the place where sins of the flesh (donuts, vicodin, alcohol, sex, shopping) were no longer a challenge.

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:16:31pm

re: #245 marjoriemoon

Ever attend a wedding where you heard The Worst Wedding Toast ever? Well I had the displeasure to witness The Worst Eulogy Ever.

It was given by an evangelist preacher for my g/f's husband who passed. A young man, in his 50s, and my g/f was in her early 40s. They were married 20 odd years and she was beyond devastated as you can imagine. The preacher wasn't her preacher. She didn't attend church. He was a preacher from a friend's church.

He had this bizarre affect where he grinned uncontrollably through the entire eulogy. He spoke about how there was no cholesterol in heaven. No diabetes or heart attacks The deceased, btw, passed from pancreatic cancer so I had no idea where this came from. Where there is a Dunkin Donuts on every corner and the streets are paved with delicious pastries. He went on like this for 20 minutes. It was the most weird and uncomfortable thing I ever witnessed by a clergy.

And I was strangely hungry after.

Personally, I believe heaven to be an ethereal place where God exists in a form of light and being near that light is where all the bliss takes place. Beyond that, I can't be too sure.

Maybe this is just his own personal vision of heaven?

Which he decided to inflict on a grieving family?

255 Lidane  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:16:50pm

re: #250 Mr Pancakes

Wow... my vision of heaven isn't healthy donuts, bacon maybe, but not donuts.

What about maple bacon donuts?

256 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:20:50pm

re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe this is just his own personal vision of heaven?

Which he decided to inflict on a grieving family?

lol I'm sure of it!

Worst Wedding Toast Ever

A Jewish g/f of mine married out of the faith. The groom, upon giving his wedding speech, decided he was going to chide his future family for having money. He told them how he saw all the Mercedes and Cadillacs parked outside and how dare they spend money on such fine cars when a Corolla works just as well. Then he pointed to them, literally pointed, finger out... at them... and their clothes, their "fancy suits" and "gaudy jewelry" and how disgusting they were. And they should sell everything they own and give it to the poor starving children in the world. And that went on for what seemed like 5 days.

My other friend and I were sitting next to other like little girls in a horror movie. We were holding each other's arms, mouth's agape at this spectacle.

257 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:21:15pm

re: #251 _RememberTonyC

I was working and did not see the speech. Did the President mention anti Semitic incitement and indoctrination by the Pals and/or the media in the region? That is a huge part of the problem.

For the Palestinians, efforts to delegitimize Israel will end in failure. Symbolic actions to isolate Israel at the United Nations in September won’t create an independent state. Palestinian leaders will not achieve peace or prosperity if Hamas insists on a path of terror and rejection. And Palestinians will never realize their independence by denying the right of Israel to exist.

258 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:21:54pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

jus' sayin'

259 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:22:36pm

re: #256 marjoriemoon

lol I'm sure of it!

Worst Wedding Toast Ever

A Jewish g/f of mine married out of the faith. The groom, upon giving his wedding speech, decided he was going to chide his future family for having money. He told them how he saw all the Mercedes and Cadillacs parked outside and how dare they spend money on such fine cars when a Corolla works just as well. Then he pointed to them, literally pointed, finger out... at them... and their clothes, their "fancy suits" and "gaudy jewelry" and how disgusting they were. And they should sell everything they own and give it to the poor starving children in the world. And that went on for what seemed like 5 days.

My other friend and I were sitting next to other like little girls in a horror movie. We were holding each other's arms, mouth's agape at this spectacle.

OMG!

BET he was sure sorry when his kids needed money for college --sure couldn't go to the in-laws for help!

260 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:23:00pm

re: #258 sagehen

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

jus' sayin'

ewwwwww!

261 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:24:56pm

re: #258 sagehen

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

jus' sayin'

Is there nothing chocolate can't do?

262 Lidane  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:25:12pm

re: #260 ggt

ewww!

I've had bacon chocolate bars before.

If you like sweet and salty snacks, you can eat chocolate covered bacon. It's really good.

263 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:25:26pm

re: #256 marjoriemoon

lol I'm sure of it!

Worst Wedding Toast Ever

A Jewish g/f of mine married out of the faith. The groom, upon giving his wedding speech, decided he was going to chide his future family for having money. He told them how he saw all the Mercedes and Cadillacs parked outside and how dare they spend money on such fine cars when a Corolla works just as well. Then he pointed to them, literally pointed, finger out... at them... and their clothes, their "fancy suits" and "gaudy jewelry" and how disgusting they were. And they should sell everything they own and give it to the poor starving children in the world. And that went on for what seemed like 5 days.

My other friend and I were sitting next to other like little girls in a horror movie. We were holding each other's arms, mouth's agape at this spectacle.

That makes the worst wedding speech I ever saw seem like nothing.

Basically, it was a wealthy WASP wedding. The bride's kinsmen had been drinking hard since the night before, at least. Hard liquor was flowing like water. They were plastered.

At the luncheon, the bride's stepfather rose to speak. He talked about how proud he was to see his stepdaughter become a married woman. He talked about what a joy it had been to see her grow into a young lady.

He talked about a day when she was a teenager, when she was talking to him and her mother about the man she would someday marry. He would have to be smart, and kind, and tall (the groom is six-three, everyone smiles), and dark (the groom is a brunette, everyone smiles), and he would have to have hair on parts of his body...and not so much hair on other parts of his body...

And everyone is leaning foward, waiting to hear which parts of the body, when his wife rises to her feets and yells, "To the bride and groom!" and hoists her own glass.

264 ProGunLiberal  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:25:39pm

We finally have big news out of Libya. Too late for a page. Not military, but political, sort of. And sad:

The family of Anton Hammerl, a South African journalist missing in Libya since April 5, claim that he was shot by forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi in the 2011 Libyan uprising.

265 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:25:59pm

re: #252 marjoriemoon

Yikes. I think that would freak me out a little.

I want everyone wailing, screaming, crying and rendering their garments at my funeral. Poised over the grave, ready to sacrifice themselves. MISS ME, I SAY! lol

Hahahaha........ I told my daughter that I want my ashes spread in the Anza Borrago desert at a certain place (Google Earth). It will be on a Tuesday no later than 10:00 AM. A handful will be reserved for scattering (very discreetly) at Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean ride.

266 sagehen  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:26:10pm

re: #260 ggt

ewww!

how can you "ewww!" at that? It's the awesomest thing ever. I bet it'd go good with this

267 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:26:52pm

re: #255 Lidane

What about maple bacon donuts?

If it's got bacon on it..... I'll chomp it.

268 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:27:06pm

re: #266 sagehen

how can you "ewww!" at that? It's the awesomest thing ever. I bet it'd go good with this

I'll take your word for it. :)

269 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:27:38pm

As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself – by itself – against any threat. Provisions must also be robust enough to prevent a resurgence of terrorism; to stop the infiltration of weapons; and to provide effective border security. The full and phased withdrawal of Israeli military forces should be coordinated with the assumption of Palestinian security responsibility in a sovereign, non-militarized state. The duration of this transition period must be agreed, and the effectiveness of security arrangements must be demonstrated.

270 Lidane  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:29:40pm
271 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:29:55pm

re: #245 marjoriemoon

Ever attend a wedding where you heard The Worst Wedding Toast ever? Well I had the displeasure to witness The Worst Eulogy Ever.

It was given by an evangelist preacher for my g/f's husband who passed. A young man, in his 50s, and my g/f was in her early 40s. They were married 20 odd years and she was beyond devastated as you can imagine. The preacher wasn't her preacher. She didn't attend church. He was a preacher from a friend's church.

He had this bizarre affect where he grinned uncontrollably through the entire eulogy. He spoke about how there was no cholesterol in heaven. No diabetes or heart attacks The deceased, btw, passed from pancreatic cancer so I had no idea where this came from. Where there is a Dunkin Donuts on every corner and the streets are paved with delicious pastries. He went on like this for 20 minutes. It was the most weird and uncomfortable thing I ever witnessed by a clergy.

And I was strangely hungry after.

Personally, I believe heaven to be an ethereal place where God exists in a form of light and being near that light is where all the bliss takes place. Beyond that, I can't be too sure.

I don't know about you but I'm thinking that "streets of gold" would be pretty damn slippery too...

/ ;)

272 goddamnedfrank  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:31:06pm

re: #266 sagehen

how can you "ewww!" at that? It's the awesomest thing ever. I bet it'd go good with this

From the end of your link: "

Last year's winner of the Texas state fair fried food competition was a recipe for deep-fried butter.

"

Texas is where cardiologists go when they start to get cocky.

273 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:32:04pm

re: #263 SanFranciscoZionist

That makes the worst wedding speech I ever saw seem like nothing.

Basically, it was a wealthy WASP wedding. The bride's kinsmen had been drinking hard since the night before, at least. Hard liquor was flowing like water. They were plastered.

At the luncheon, the bride's stepfather rose to speak. He talked about how proud he was to see his stepdaughter become a married woman. He talked about what a joy it had been to see her grow into a young lady.

He talked about a day when she was a teenager, when she was talking to him and her mother about the man she would someday marry. He would have to be smart, and kind, and tall (the groom is six-three, everyone smiles), and dark (the groom is a brunette, everyone smiles), and he would have to have hair on parts of his body...and not so much hair on other parts of his body...

And everyone is leaning foward, waiting to hear which parts of the body, when his wife rises to her feets and yells, "To the bride and groom!" and hoists her own glass.

That's kinda cute!

This awful wedding was held in a park pavilion. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it was very basic and I don't think what her family expected. I didn't quite expect it. The food was Publix party platters with a number of pork products and even if folks don't keep kosher, that's not usual fare when at least one of the marrieds is Jewish.

At the end of this horrendous speech, the bus boys came out of the kitchen, threw their dirty bus pans on the table and began to chuck our plates and cups into them. Eh, the weenies in a blanket weren't all that tasty anyway. We knew it was time to go.

274 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:32:20pm

In heaven this is healthy

[Link: www.holytaco.com...]

275 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:32:44pm

re: #269 SanFranciscoZionist

As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself – by itself – against any threat. Provisions must also be robust enough to prevent a resurgence of terrorism; to stop the infiltration of weapons; and to provide effective border security. The full and phased withdrawal of Israeli military forces should be coordinated with the assumption of Palestinian security responsibility in a sovereign, non-militarized state. The duration of this transition period must be agreed, and the effectiveness of security arrangements must be demonstrated.

The BBC report I heard mentioned none of this ... Shocka

276 Lidane  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:35:23pm

re: #274 Mr Pancakes

In heaven this is healthy

[Link: www.holytaco.com...]

Pffft. That's amateur league. I've actually made this:

[Link: www.bbqaddicts.com...]

277 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:37:40pm

Very serious bacon eaters, I must say! The choco bacon has me intrigued. My fav munch is choco (dark) covered pretzels.

278 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:38:38pm

re: #276 Lidane

Pffft. That's amateur league. I've actually made this:

[Link: www.bbqaddicts.com...]

Ding Ding Ding..... we have a winner!

279 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:41:25pm

re: #276 Lidane

Pffft. That's amateur league. I've actually made this:

[Link: www.bbqaddicts.com...]

Good God! I think the Surgeon General would prohibit just looking at that, let alone taking a bite.

280 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:45:06pm

The thread's dead, Jim.

281 Lidane  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:46:30pm

re: #280 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

The thread's dead, Jim.

Good thing the Assistant Surgeon General is out there giving zombie apocalypse survival tips. ;)

282 What, me worry?  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:47:17pm

Well, gang, I have to go to bed, but I suspect we'll be blogging the Armageddon together. I'll be looking forward to it!

Nite nite.

283 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:47:46pm

re: #275 _RememberTonyC

The BBC report I heard mentioned none of this ... Shocka

It was actually a pretty decent speech, especially the emphasis that no one can make anyone make peace who doesn't want to, and that you can't make peace with someone who doesn't recognize your right to exist.

284 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:48:20pm

re: #281 Lidane

Good thing the Assistant Surgeon General is out there giving zombie apocalypse survival tips. ;)

Yeah, I heard about that. Last time the CDC was mentioned in the same paragraph as the words "zombie apocalypse," it was to assure folks that the big explosion depicted in the season finale of The Walking Dead was all make-believe.

285 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:49:16pm

re: #281 Lidane

Good thing the Assistant Surgeon General is out there giving zombie apocalypse survival tips. ;)

Yea I saw that.... pretty funny........ whoever came up with that was a genius...... just be as prepared for anything like you'd prepare for zombies.

286 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:51:04pm

Considering we've been told on various occasions that the government has scenarios drawn up for various outlandish scenarios, such as an invasion by Canada, I actually wouldn't be surprised to find out that they've got something drawn up in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

287 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:51:08pm

ok, I need reading material.
What's everyone reading?

Any fiction suggestions? I'm on a Rome kick.

288 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:51:53pm

re: #287 ggt

ok, I need reading material.
What's everyone reading?

Any fiction suggestions? I'm on a Rome kick.

I'm currently reading a wine label.

289 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:52:19pm

re: #288 Mr Pancakes

I'm currently reading a wine label.

non-fiction?

Althought Romans cherished good wine!

290 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:52:27pm

re: #287 ggt

ok, I need reading material.
What's everyone reading?

Any fiction suggestions? I'm on a Rome kick.

Have you read the Lindsay Davis mysteries?

291 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:53:00pm

re: #290 SanFranciscoZionist

Have you read the Lindsay Davis mysteries?

There in the queue. You recommend then?

Just finshed Roma and Empire by Steven Saylor.

292 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:53:29pm

re: #289 ggt

non-fiction?

Althought Romans cherished good wine!

Definitely not fiction.... it says vintage last Tuesday and it tastes like it.

293 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:54:58pm

re: #291 ggt

There in the queue. You recommend then?

Just finshed Roma and Empire by Steven Saylor.

Yes. At least the first several. Falco has been, accurately, described as 'Sam Spade in a ratty toga'.

You have got to love a series that starts: "As the girl rushed up the steps of the Temple of Jupiter, I decided she was wearing too many clothes."

294 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:55:03pm

re: #287 ggt

ok, I need reading material.
What's everyone reading?

Any fiction suggestions? I'm on a Rome kick.

Considering the apocalyptic bent to events recently, perhaps The Stand by Stephen King.

295 Four More Tears  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:55:08pm

re: #292 Mr Pancakes

Definitely not fiction... it says vintage last Tuesday and it tastes like it.

Does it also say "Welch's" on it?

296 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:55:09pm

re: #292 Mr Pancakes

Definitely not fiction... it says vintage last Tuesday and it tastes like it.

sounds horrible

297 _RememberTonyC  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:55:12pm

re: #283 SanFranciscoZionist

It was actually a pretty decent speech, especially the emphasis that no one can make anyone make peace who doesn't want to, and that you can't make peace with someone who doesn't recognize your right to exist.

And that must be addressed right off the jump.

298 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:55:54pm

re: #295 JasonA

Does it also say "Welch's" on it?

Let me look....... no it says Carlo Rossi

299 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:55:56pm

re: #294 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Considering the apocalyptic bent to events recently, perhaps The Stand by Stephen King.

Geez, armageddon is a theme I am really tired of.

300 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:56:01pm

My last Rome jag was thoroughly satisfied by watching the HBO miniseries.

301 Lidane  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:56:33pm

re: #294 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Considering the apocalyptic bent to events recently, perhaps The Stand by Stephen King.

Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett.

302 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:57:12pm

re: #293 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. At least the first several. Falco has been, accurately, described as 'Sam Spade in a ratty toga'.

You have got to love a series that starts: "As the girl rushed up the steps of the Temple of Jupiter, I decided she was wearing too many clothes."

I listened to the Thin Man by Dashiell Hammett (?). Nick and Nora Charles, Sam Spade. WE need more of these to read!

303 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:57:32pm

re: #301 Lidane

Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett.

For some reason I find the concept of naming a child Anathema deeply amusing.

304 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:57:48pm

re: #300 SanFranciscoZionist

My last Rome jag was thoroughly satisfied by watching the HBO miniseries.

I thought it was well done, but I only got thru the first 2 seasons. Need to rent the rest of the series.

305 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:58:03pm

re: #301 Lidane

Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett.

Been meaning to pick up a copy of that and read it.

306 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 10:58:44pm

re: #304 ggt

I thought it was well done, but I only got thru the first 2 seasons. Need to rent the rest of the series.

Not sure there were more than those two.

307 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:00:38pm

re: #306 SanFranciscoZionist

Not sure there were more than those two.

Don't think I finished it. I thought the actors did a phenomenal job.

308 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:02:17pm

re: #294 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Considering the apocalyptic bent to events recently, perhaps The Stand by Stephen King.

Wow... also on instant play

309 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:02:24pm

re: #307 ggt

Don't think I finished it. I thought the actors did a phenomenal job.

Well done. I did enjoy it.

I wanted to show part of it to my kids--the sixth grade does Rome--but there is literally NO section that isn't sex, violence or both.

310 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:03:11pm

re: #303 SanFranciscoZionist

For some reason I find the concept of naming a child Anathema deeply amusing.

And with the last name of 'Device' it just gets even better...

311 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:03:16pm

re: #308 Mr Pancakes

Wow... also on instant play

Yeah, but if you're gonna watch that, you best not have anything to do for the rest of the day. Clocks in at somewhere around 8 hours, not accounting for intermissions and bathroom breaks.

312 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:03:56pm

re: #311 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, but if you're gonna watch that, you best not have anything to do for the rest of the day. Clocks in at somewhere around 8 hours, not accounting for intermissions and bathroom breaks.

I work at home.........

313 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:04:12pm

re: #309 SanFranciscoZionist

Well done. I did enjoy it.

I wanted to show part of it to my kids--the sixth grade does Rome--but there is literally NO section that isn't sex, violence or both.

I know, but that was the part I was glad they did realistically. I wished they'd showed the battles as realistically as well.

314 Targetpractice  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:05:06pm

re: #312 Mr Pancakes

I work at home...

Ah, then more power to ya. Me personally, once through in a single evening was enough.

315 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:05:07pm

re: #313 ggt

I know, but that was the part I was glad they did realistically. I wished they'd showed the battles as realistically as well.

The death of Brutus was the only part that really bothered me. I'm not a military buff, so, I probably missed a lot, but that part was just WRONG

316 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:07:20pm

What movie said bring me the head of John the Baptist...... I think it's the 10 Commandments? I want to watch it with my daughter.

317 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:07:46pm

re: #316 Mr Pancakes

What movie said bring me the head of John the Baptist... I think it's the 10 Commandments? I want to watch it with my daughter.

movies don't say anything

:)

318 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:08:33pm

re: #317 ggt

movies don't say anything

:)

They do if you're drinking Carlo Rossi

319 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:08:43pm

re: #316 Mr Pancakes

What movie said bring me the head of John the Baptist... I think it's the 10 Commandments? I want to watch it with my daughter.

Salome? With Rita Hayworth in the title role?

320 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:08:54pm

re: #318 Mr Pancakes

They do if you're drinking Carlo Rossi

or moonshine!

321 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:09:42pm

re: #319 SanFranciscoZionist

Salome? With Rita Hayworth in the title role?

I'm drawing from some distant memories....... this lady that asked for his head was a real bitch.

322 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:10:02pm

I'm fascinated by the parallels between Rome and the US.

323 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:10:27pm

re: #321 Mr Pancakes

I'm drawing from some distant memories... this lady that asked for his head was a real bitch.

She got what she wanted!

324 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:10:42pm

bbiab--dogs want out.

325 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:10:59pm

re: #321 Mr Pancakes

I'm drawing from some distant memories... this lady that asked for his head was a real bitch.

Well, the person who calls for the head of J the B is Salome--wouldn't be in The Ten Commandments. Check Salome with Hayworth. 1953.

326 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:11:36pm

re: #322 ggt

I'm fascinated by the parallels between Rome and the US.

Really? I'm fascinated by the parallels between Luxembourg and Mongolia myself.

327 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:11:39pm

re: #322 ggt

I'm fascinated by the parallels between Rome and the US.

I wrote a mystery novel set in fifteenth century Florence--now they and we had some stuff in common. Different stuff from what we have in common with Rome.

328 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:12:08pm

re: #322 ggt

I'm fascinated by the parallels between Rome and the US.

What parallels? Well besides Newt being around that is...

///

329 engineer cat  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:12:20pm

i dreamed i was raptured and raised up to heaven in my maidenform bra

330 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:12:46pm

re: #325 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the person who calls for the head of J the B is Salome--wouldn't be in The Ten Commandments. Check Salome with Hayworth. 1953.

It's gotta be...... thanks SFZ

331 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:14:03pm

re: #325 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the person who calls for the head of J the B is Salome--wouldn't be in The Ten Commandments. Check Salome with Hayworth. 1953.

Woops wouldn't.... damn you Carlo Rossi

332 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:15:32pm

re: #329 engineer dog

i dreamed i was raptured and raised up to heaven in my maidenform bra

Naw, everybody is naked, and wont those church biddies be ever so embarrassed?

/

333 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:17:17pm

re: #326 Mr Pancakes

Really? I'm fascinated by the parallels between Luxembourg and Mongolia myself.

No you are not!

334 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:19:01pm

re: #333 ggt

No you are not!

Bet me

335 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:19:37pm

re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist

I wrote a mystery novel set in fifteenth century Florence--now they and we had some stuff in common. Different stuff from what we have in common with Rome.

Florence was a Republic, not under Vatican control. Yes, a lot of parallels. Strange the information I remember from being an art major. I learned a lot about Florence when learning about DiVInci and Michaelangelo.

The De Medici's--there are about 3 HBO Miniseries just in that family history!

336 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:20:08pm

re: #334 Mr Pancakes

Bet me

NO--

OK, what are the parallels between Luxemborg and Mongolia?

337 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:21:04pm

re: #336 ggt

NO--

OK, what are the parallels between Luxemborg and Mongolia?

You already said no

338 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:21:20pm

re: #328 ausador

What parallels? Well besides Newt being around that is...

///

Well, they were great at building roads. . . .

339 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:26:02pm

re: #325 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the person who calls for the head of J the B is Salome--wouldn't be in The Ten Commandments. Check Salome with Hayworth. 1953.

That looks like it...... I'll be darn...... (Salome 1953) is not even in my memory bank.

Netflix doesn't even have it....... oh well.

340 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:29:01pm

re: #335 ggt

Florence was a Republic, not under Vatican control. Yes, a lot of parallels. Strange the information I remember from being an art major. I learned a lot about Florence when learning about DiVInci and Michaelangelo.

The De Medici's--there are about 3 HBO Miniseries just in that family history!

Lord, yes. A spectacularly weird family in many ways. There's a delicious series of letter between Lorenzo de' Medici, his wife, and a renowned humanist, after Clarice has kicked the humanist out of their summer house for teaching her children filthy pagan myths instead of their catechism, and the humanist has written Lorenzo from the Renaissance equivalent of a Motel 6, asking if he should come back to Florence or what.

It wasn't a very satisfying marriage for either of them. The quintessential Renaissance boy married a nice medieval girl.

341 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:30:18pm

re: #335 ggt

You might wanna check out "Hawkwood - Diabolical Englishman", a work of history (written like a novel) set in Northern Italy in the XIV century when the city-states hired "companies" of mercenaries to fight for them, the most famous being Hawkwood, the Englishman.

It mentions for example that they did in fact hurl dead cows with catapults as potrayed in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", but that they preferred pigs because they were more aerodynamic.

342 Mr Pancakes  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:33:19pm

re: #325 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the person who calls for the head of J the B is Salome--wouldn't be in The Ten Commandments. Check Salome with Hayworth. 1953.

Found it........ it's actually "The Greatest Story Ever Told" John the Baptist is played by Charlton Heston.

343 Four More Tears  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:47:29pm

I just watched John Lithgow read Gingrich's statement to the press on the Colbert Report. Holy crap was that epic.

344 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, May 19, 2011 11:52:42pm

re: #341 ralphieboy

You might wanna check out "Hawkwood - Diabolical Englishman", a work of history (written like a novel) set in Northern Italy in the XIV century when the city-states hired "companies" of mercenaries to fight for them, the most famous being Hawkwood, the Englishman.

It mentions for example that they did in fact hurl dead cows with catapults as potrayed in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail", but that they preferred pigs because they were more aerodynamic.

The original germ warfare --dead animals used as ammunition.

How disgusting!

THanks, I'll check it out.

345 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:00:56am

re: #344 ggt

By Frances Stonor Saunders (great middle name there) and also mentions the Cult of the Holy Foreskin: a cult based upon a relic purported to be the Foreskin of Christ that was used as a "wedding ring" for nuns entering the convent.

346 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:07:55am

re: #345 ralphieboy

By Frances Stonor Saunders (great middle name there) and also mentions the Cult of the Holy Foreskin: a cult based upon a relic purported to be the Foreskin of Christ that was used as a "wedding ring" for nuns entering the convent.

nice :/

347 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:08:08am

night all!

348 simoom  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:09:58am

I wonder if the citizens of these Kentucky counties feel this was money well spent:

[Link: www.greenfieldreporter.com...]

SOMERSET, Ky. — Two south-central Kentucky counties involved in a long, unsuccessful legal battle to post the Ten Commandments are now trying to figure out to pay the mounting legal bills.

Just this week, a federal judge added more than $23,000 to the bill Pulaski and McCreary counties owe in attorney fees and costs to the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky. The organization challenged the displays in, which were ruled unconstitutional.

The counties now owe a total of $456,881, according to the Lexington Herald-Leader. Officials say it's unclear how they will pay.

349 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:12:52am

re: #348 simoom

How about donations from local churches that supported the posting?

350 sagehen  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:23:37am

re: #286 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Considering we've been told on various occasions that the government has scenarios drawn up for various outlandish scenarios, such as an invasion by Canada, I actually wouldn't be surprised to find out that they've got something drawn up in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

According to "West Wing" (in one of the post-Sorkin seasons), the plan to invade Canada was written in 1812, revised in 1868, the calligraphy is beautiful.

One of my all-time favorite eps, btw, right up there with "Big Block of Cheese" and "Indians in the Lobby."

351 sagehen  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:25:07am

re: #291 ggt

There in the queue. You recommend then?

Just finshed Roma and Empire by Steven Saylor.

Saylor incorporates more specific real history, but Davis is funnier.

352 goddamnedfrank  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:36:14am
353 freetoken  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:43:52am

re: #352 goddamnedfrank

I don't even understand the phrase "lawmakers to change state".

354 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 12:48:52am

You mean move to New Mexico?

Would only make sense...

355 freetoken  Fri, May 20, 2011 1:32:39am

Joshua Bell's interpretation of Massenet's "Elegie O Doux Printemps" :

356 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 1:58:22am

Les Docteurs du Rotation's interpretation of "Elegie O Deux Princes"

[Link: www.dailymotion.com...]

357 freetoken  Fri, May 20, 2011 2:28:08am

Of all the 1947 Billboard listed top hits, this is one of only two that have held up 64 years later:

358 freetoken  Fri, May 20, 2011 2:52:46am

Well, the counter on the Family Radio site says "01 Days Left."

I suppose I should go eat all the remaining Haagen Daas in the freezer - it would be a terrible waste for it to spoil...

359 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 2:59:44am

What could be more fitting than the Last Daas for the Last Days?

360 freetoken  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:08:28am
361 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:17:50am

re: #360 freetoken

I mentioned yesterday the French bicycle especially designed for the Apocalypse: the "Velocirapture"

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:33:43am

Happy Apocalypse Eve!

363 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:42:19am

Saturday, May 21st. 6PM. On a hilltop beneath a blood-red sky:

Death: Hello Pestilence, Hello War. Where's Famine?
War: Famine just texted me, says he can't make it today.
Death: Oh well, it's not like it's the end of the world...

364 researchok  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:48:45am

Morning, all

365 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:49:54am

Will You Be Raptured? Now in handy flowchart form!

366 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:55:53am

re: #365 iceweasel

Will You Be Raptured? Now in handy flowchart form!

No

But I do have a hernia thats causing some concern!

367 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:56:19am

re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Apocalypse Eve!

Do we get candy and presents!?!?

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:56:21am
369 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:56:47am

Morning folks.

re: #365 iceweasel

Will You Be Raptured? Now in handy flowchart form!

I know for certain I'll still be here. I'm glad, heaven sounds like a drag.

370 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:58:02am

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Love me some johnny cash in the morning. Or any time.

371 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:58:17am

re: #369 RogueOne

Morning folks.

I know for certain I'll still be here. I'm glad, heaven sounds like a drag.

I wish it had been scheduled for April 14th

That way, I could have avoided paying my taxes!

372 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:58:30am

re: #358 freetoken

Well, the counter on the Family Radio site says "01 Days Left."

I suppose I should go eat all the remaining Haagen Daas in the freezer - it would be a terrible waste for it to spoil...

I'm fairly certain you don't have anything to worry about. You're stuck here with me and Ice. I'm worried about losing FBV and Satt though.

373 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 3:59:42am

re: #372 RogueOne

I'm fairly certain you don't have anything to worry about. You're stuck here with me and Ice. I'm worried about losing FBV and Satt though.

I have my Nikes and a roll of quarters at the ready!

But I ain't sitting with FBV for the long trip,,,,

he snores!

374 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:00:49am

Bring on the rapture!
I got my crime spree bank visits all planned out.

375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:02:36am

re: #372 RogueOne

I'm fairly certain you don't have anything to worry about. You're stuck here with me and Ice. I'm worried about losing FBV and Satt though.

A huge golden lion wearing a breastplate of alabaster just walked my front window. It looked in and winked at me. Told me to "Shhh".

376 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:02:46am

re: #372 RogueOne

I'm fairly certain you don't have anything to worry about. You're stuck here with me and Ice. I'm worried about losing FBV and Satt though.

Jimmah and I want to live blog it from the pub. It'll be 6pm for us when it's 1pm on the east coast. On the other hand, it's also possible you won't hear from us, as it's his first day off in awhile.

Also: The Joy Of Atheist Sex

A new study says atheists have "far better" sex lives than their religious counterparts, of whom 80% say they feel profound guilt after the fact. (I guess the other 20% get off on knowing that Someone is watching.) [Daily Mail]
377 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:04:29am
378 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:04:42am

re: #375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A huge golden lion wearing a breastplate of alabaster just walked my front window. It looked in and winked at me. Told me to "Shhh".

Thats no lion

That was Tony The Tiger

You were eating cereal, weren't you!

379 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:06:36am

How many people actually believe the rapture will be this weekend? 100? 200? I know the planet is full of morons but can there really be that many people expecting to go "poof" saturday?

380 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:07:26am

re: #377 iceweasel

This one is for Killgore:

barrett brown steps down as the face of Anonymous

I saw that. I said from the beginning that if the feds didn't get him the group behind him would. That isn't a group of people you want to be out in front of.

381 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:08:48am

re: #377 iceweasel

This one is for Killgore:

barrett brown steps down as the face of Anonymous

The ground Anonymous returns to harassing 12 year old girls.

382 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:09:35am

re: #379 RogueOne

I know the planet is full of morons

And I think I encounter each and every one of them on my drive into work in the morning

Lady yesterday beside me was talking on her cell phone, eating some sort of fast food sammich and applying eye makeup WHILE we were on the highway

Albeit, we were only doing about 15 mph in stop and go traffic, but still

383 researchok  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:10:38am

re: #381 Varek Raith

The ground Anonymous returns to harassing 12 year old girls.

Bye bye, BB

Nice

384 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:11:28am

Heh, spell check was weird with my typo of 'group'

385 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:11:56am

re: #380 RogueOne

I saw that. I said from the beginning that if the feds didn't get him the group behind him would. That isn't a group of people you want to be out in front of.

There's some pretty unflattering descriptions of his living conditions in this article:

I had been to Brown’s Uptown bachelor pad before. The 378-square-foot efficiency was dimly lit and ill-kept. Dirty dishes were piled high in the sink. A taxidermied bobcat lay on the kitchen counter. Brown is an inveterate smoker—Marlboro 100’s, weed, whatever is at hand—and the place smelled like it. An overflowing ashtray sat on his work table, which stood just a few feet from his bed in the apartment’s “living room.” Two green plastic patio chairs faced the desk. I left with the feeling that I needed a bath.

386 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:15:55am
387 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:18:57am
388 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:20:10am

re: #387 iceweasel

Heh, good one.

You'd think he'd clean up a bit knowing an interviewer was coming...

389 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:20:24am

re: #388 Varek Raith

You'd think he'd clean up a bit knowing an interviewer was coming...

he did!

390 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:22:32am

K
Gotta go drop Dog #1 off at the vet

(he has one nail that's half tore off)

391 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:22:45am

re: #385 iceweasel

He's a young male. I had friends that thought the mice in their apartments were pets. If it weren't for women most men would live like pigs.

392 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:25:36am

Speaking of pigs:

Va. businessman's spankings lead to charges
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]


Single mothers, former drug addicts and other beaten down young women who came to wealthy businessman Henry Allen Fitzsimmons for a chance to climb out of their financial hole knew his help came with a catch. In exchange for an allowance, a place to live and promise of a college education, they agreed to be spanked if they broke his rules.

At least six of the women say he his corporal punishment went too far, including one who says he sexually assaulted her, and the 54-year-old Virginia Beach restaurant owner faces felony charges.

"These women are victims. They're single moms. They need their bills paid," prosecutor Tom Murphy said at a court hearing Thursday. "It's bizarre, there's no doubt."

Bizarre might be an understatement.

393 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:30:36am
394 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:34:13am

re: #393 Varek Raith

Wash. Times: Bin Laden "Outmaneuvered" Obama With Taped Message
Sure didn't outmaneuver that bullet.

Pics or it didn't happen!

395 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:36:11am

re: #385 iceweasel

Yunno, unless I was considering sharing an apartment with the fellow, that sort of information is entirely irrelevant and unneccessary

396 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:37:17am

re: #395 ralphieboy

Yunno, unless I was considering sharing an apartment with the fellow, that sort of information is entirely irrelevant and unneccessary

The whole article is like that. Lots of unnecessary personal information. I didn't even post the worst excerpts.

397 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:37:39am

re: #392 RogueOne

Speaking of pigs:

Va. businessman's spankings lead to charges
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Bizarre might be an understatement.

That is a seriously weird article.

398 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:38:38am

re: #395 ralphieboy

Yunno, unless I was considering sharing an apartment with the fellow, that sort of information is entirely irrelevant and unneccessary

It's part of the whole picture. When you put yourself out there this kind of stuff is going to happen.

399 researchok  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:39:01am

re: #397 iceweasel

That is a seriously weird article.

That's America- home of much weirdness.

I will reserve opinion on the UK, Scotland and Ireland for the moment.

400 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:39:33am

re: #397 iceweasel

That is a seriously weird article.

It could have been worse. He could have wanted to be the receiver of the spankings.

401 researchok  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:39:43am

Much travelling today.

Later all.

402 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:42:42am

re: #401 researchok

Much travelling today.

Later all.

Bye, researchok. Good luck!

403 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:43:20am

Oh hey, I heard from Gus today. He's at his new undisclosed location and is doing fine. Computer not set up yet though.

404 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:44:24am

We're a planet of pervs and it isn't our fault:

The Neuroscience Behind Sexual Desire
[Link: www.freakonomics.com...]


In what is claimed to be the largest experiment ever, two neuroscience PhDs from Boston University, Ogi Ogas and Sai Gaddam, analyzed a billion web searches, a million web sites, a million erotic videos, millions of personal ads, thousands of digital romance novels, and combined it all with cutting-edge neuroscience. The result is the most complete study of the human brain and sexuality ever, which they’ve compiled into a new book called A Billion Wicked Thoughts: What the World’s Largest Experiment Reveals About Human Desire. Among other things, their research reveals profound differences between the sexual brains of men and women, even though they are both hardwired to respond to the same sexual cues. For instance: male brains form sexual interests during adolescence and rarely change, while female brains change frequently throughout their lives. For men, physical and psychological arousal are united, while they’re completely separate for women.

405 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:45:07am

re: #403 iceweasel

Oh hey, I heard from Gus today. He's at his new undisclosed location and is doing fine. Computer not set up yet though.

I never asked him if he was taking off for a particular reason or if he just needed a new background in his life.

406 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:45:24am

re: #391 RogueOne

He's a young male. I had friends that thought the mice in their apartments were pets. If it weren't for women most men would live like pigs.

"Bears with furniture"
"Nothing on the walls but food"

--Rita Rudner

407 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:47:25am

Okay, there's a brief gap in the pounding rain so I think I'll take advantage of it. Have a good one, folks!

408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:48:20am

re: #406 Decatur Deb

My wife (who I adore) is disgusting. If it weren't for me, our house would be unlivable to a civilized person.

So, neener.

Of course, I am not bitter.

409 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:53:56am

re: #398 RogueOne

It's part of the whole picture. When you put yourself out there this kind of stuff is going to happen.

I agree that people who live in the public eye are going to be subject to scrutiny about their personal lives, but that does not make it relevant (to anyone) or interesting (to me).

410 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:54:31am

re: #404 RogueOne

The Q&A with the authors: [Link: www.freakonomics.com...]


And the data led us to some very strange places. Here are some of our findings: heterosexual men like shemale porn, large-penis porn, and fantasies of their wives sleeping with other men. Gay male sexuality is almost identical to straight male sexuality. Women prefer stories to visuals, though women who do prefer visuals tend to have a higher sex drive, exhibit greater social aggression, and are more comfortable taking risks. Men prefer overweight women to underweight women. Heterosexual women like stories about two masculine men sharing their tender side and having sex.

and women love pirates....


Q. [Messrs. Ogas and Gaddam] don’t know romances, either. Yet they use that same broad stereotype — romances feature alpha men who conquer women — without examining or proving it, and use that untested and invalid thesis to make conclusions.
- Madame Hardy

A. Two female psychologists, Maryanne Fisher and Tami Meredith (previously Anthony), analyzed the titles of 15,019 romance novels published from 1949 to 2009 by Harlequin, the world’s largest publisher of romance novels. Their list of the 13 most common hero professions in these titles: (1) Doctor, (2) Cowboy, (3) Boss, (4) Prince, (5) Rancher, (6) Knight, (7) Surgeon, (8) King, (9) Bodyguard, (10) Sheriff, (11) Soldier, (12) Lawman, (13) Pirate. All of these are alpha men. Only two novels featured truckers.

411 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:55:00am

re: #408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife refuses to wash utensils, like forks, knives, whatever.

I have no idea where that comes from.

Since I love doing dishes, it's no big.

412 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:55:29am

re: #408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife (who I adore) is disgusting. If it weren't for me, our house would be unlivable to a civilized person.

So, neener.

Of course, I am not bitter.

We will assume you are a (closet) gay, then.

/

My ex-wife came to assume the same about me, I was also the house husband.

413 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:55:48am

re: #411 Obdicut

My wife refuses to wash utensils, like forks, knives, whatever.

I have no idea where that comes from.

Since I love doing dishes, it's no big.

I'm picky about bathrooms and the kitchen. Otherwise I prefer things organized but I'm not anal about it.

414 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:56:50am

re: #411 Obdicut

My wife refuses to wash utensils, like forks, knives, whatever.

I have no idea where that comes from.

Since I love doing dishes, it's no big.


Gosh, is everyone here gay?

/

415 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:57:52am

re: #410 RogueOne

Meh. The whole 'alpha' thing is pretty much bullshit, anyway. Not to mention that most of those roles are not very 'alpha' anyway. A cowboy is an alpha man? A guy who gets hired by other people to herd cows? A bodyguard is bey definition non-alpha; he's protecting someone more important than himself.

This part, though:

And the data led us to some very strange places. Here are some of our findings: heterosexual men like shemale porn, large-penis porn, and fantasies of their wives sleeping with other men.

A friend of mine who runs a large porn portal says that about 50% of the heterosexual men spend 'significant' amounts of time looking at the shemale porn. As in, at least a quarter of their time.

I don't get it. I'm not judging, I have no problem with it, I just think that's a little nuance to sexuality that escapes me.

416 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 4:58:40am

re: #414 ralphieboy

Gosh, is everyone here gay?

/

I wonder if there is a difference in cleaning habits between men raised by a single mom and a 2 parent household.

417 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:00:58am

re: #416 RogueOne

I wonder if there is a difference in cleaning habits between men raised by a single mom and a 2 parent household.

Interesting point, I was raised by my mom and older sis after my dad died. My ex came from a family with a full-time working father and a full-time housewife.

418 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:01:02am

re: #414 ralphieboy

I mainly like doing the dishes because I watch Quite Interesting while I do it, and that show rocks.

419 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:02:05am

re: #415 Obdicut

I think women like to sleep with alpha's but that doesn't equate to what they look for in long-term relationships.

Anyone who has ever spent any time on /b/ knows there is an unhealthy obsession with shemale porn. I don't get it either.

420 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:02:41am

re: #416 RogueOne

I'm the youngest of three boys. I actually much prefer doing yardwork to indoor work. After my brothers went to college and my dad discovered that A) he was allergic to bees and B) he was extremely lazy, I was solely responsible for the upkeep of our 9 acres of property. I got really into it, to the extent of building a block-and-tackle hoist chair for myself so I could chainsaw off really high branches and stuff.

421 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:02:42am

re: #418 Obdicut

I mainly like doing the dishes because I watch Quite Interesting while I do it, and that show rocks.

[Video]


*ahem* Steven Fry is openly gay.

Now I really wonder.

At least you are not watching "Glee"...

/

422 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:03:34am

re: #410 RogueOne

A. Two female psychologists, Maryanne Fisher and Tami Meredith (previously Anthony), analyzed the titles of 15,019 romance novels published from 1949 to 2009 by Harlequin, the world’s largest publisher of romance novels. Their list of the 13 most common hero professions in these titles: (1) Doctor, (2) Cowboy, (3) Boss, (4) Prince, (5) Rancher, (6) Knight, (7) Surgeon, (8) King, (9) Bodyguard, (10) Sheriff, (11) Soldier, (12) Lawman, (13) Pirate. All of these are alpha men. Only two novels featured truckers.

They left out: Police officer, Athlete, Detective, Archaeologist, Journalist, Actor, Musician, Artist

423 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:03:54am

re: #417 ralphieboy

Interesting point, I was raised by my mom and older sis after my dad died. My ex came from a family with a full-time working father and a full-time housewife.

Mom made sure my brother and I kept the house clean and knew how to cook. She wasn't about to wander around cleaning up after 2 boys.

424 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:04:51am

re: #422 Alouette

They left out: Police officer, Athlete, Detective, Archaeologist, Journalist, Actor, Musician, Artist

Archaeologists? The opportunities I've squandered.

425 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:05:25am

re: #424 Decatur Deb

Archaeologists? The opportunities I've squandered.

the "Indiana Jones" type

426 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:05:33am

re: #420 Obdicut

I'm the youngest of three boys. I actually much prefer doing yardwork to indoor work. After my brothers went to college and my dad discovered that A) he was allergic to bees and B) he was extremely lazy, I was solely responsible for the upkeep of our 9 acres of property. I got really into it, to the extent of building a block-and-tackle hoist chair for myself so I could chainsaw off really high branches and stuff.

I grew up in apartments. I like the noise and I hate yard work. If not for dogs and a spouse I would still live in a condo.

427 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:06:10am

re: #419 RogueOne

I don't believe in the entire concept of 'alpha'. It doesn't really fit with human social structure that well; I mean, I believe that we're primates, but alpha depends on the particular collection of primates. Out of these ten primates, this guy will be 'alpha'. Out of a different collection but including that 'alpha', he may not be. Alpha isn't a personality trait, it's just a job title, so to speak.

Sapolsky's "A Primate's Memoir" goes into this in some detail, including that those supposed alpha males are getting cuckolded left and right in primate populations. The most successful baboon he studied (in terms of breeding) was the one who was never confrontational with other males but spent most of his time socializing positively with the females. And he got hella rewarded for it.

428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:07:31am

re: #411 Obdicut

My wife refuses to wash utensils, like forks, knives, whatever.

I have no idea where that comes from.

Since I love doing dishes, it's no big.

The dishwasher is RIGHT FUCKING BESIDE THE SINK!

Dirty dishes go into the sink. If I'm out of town for a week? A week's dirty dishes are in the sink when I get home.

I unloaded the dishwasher and loaded it in 2 and a half minutes to prove my point, she just looked at me and said, "Good. Guess it's not a big deal then."

429 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:08:26am

re: #416 RogueOne

I wonder if there is a difference in cleaning habits between men raised by a single mom and a 2 parent household.

Can only speak for men raised by a dozen nuns in a boarding (reform) school. We buffed every floor in our area of responsibility every morning, and washed every window on the campus every Friday. According to my wife, it didn't take.

430 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:09:02am

re: #425 Alouette

the "Indiana Jones" type

I do have an old Land Rover...

431 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:09:59am

re: #428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


A wife is vacuuming, husband is reading the paper, she asks her husband to pick up his feet.

"See? Without my help you would never get anything done around here!" replies the husband.

432 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:11:28am

re: #428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The dishwasher is RIGHT FUCKING BESIDE THE SINK!

Dirty dishes go into the sink. If I'm out of town for a week? A week's dirty dishes are in the sink when I get home.

I unloaded the dishwasher and loaded it in 2 and a half minutes to prove my point, she just looked at me and said, "Good. Guess it's not a big deal then."

Zedushka is a pig. When I went to California for my dad's funeral, I just freaked out when I came back. The dirty dish scenario you just described. I screamed at him: "Next time I go out of town, buy takeout and use disposable utensils, and make sure you throw everything in the garbage!"

He is a smoker. I think smoking is such a filthy habit that it spills over into everything else.

433 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:14:00am

re: #255 Lidane

What about maple bacon donuts?

Here's some coffee to go with those donuts.

434 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:14:20am

re: #432 Alouette

Sorry you didn't marry Kosher.
/

435 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:16:20am

re: #422 Alouette

They left out: Police officer, Athlete, Detective, Archaeologist, Journalist, Actor, Musician, Artist


FTA:

In romance titles on Amazon, there are 415 millionaires, 286 billionaires, and 263 sheiks, including The Millionaire’s Secretary, The Billionaire’s Virgin Bride, and The Sheik’s Secret Harem Girl. In our own sample of 10,344 digitized romance novels from 1983 to 2008, there were no heroes who were kindergarten teachers, janitors, or accountants–except a lone accountant hero in the 1983 novel Reckless Passion.

No engineers either.

436 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:17:02am

Morning Lizardim. Happy Friday and happy day-before-the-end-of-the-world day. Guess that means I shouldn't be at work, because wouldn't everybody take the day before the Apocalypse off if they knew?

437 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:17:38am

re: #432 Alouette

Stella and Meara routine

M: "I knew a mixed marriage would never work."
S: "Because I'm Jewish and you're Christian?"
M: "Because I'm neat and you're a slob."

438 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:19:01am

re: #435 RogueOne

Take the flip side and look at a porn site. How many girls are there who are not young, large-breasted and big-lipped? Quite the minority.

To each his/her own fantasies.

439 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:19:48am

re: #432 Alouette

My cousin moved out of detroit down to arkansas this week. The only family left in detroit now are my drug-addicted cousin and the schizophrenic who's back in a state facility again.

440 Renaissance_Man  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:21:10am

re: #438 ralphieboy

Take the flip side and look at a porn site. How many girls are there who are not young, large-breasted and big-lipped? Quite the minority.

To each his/her own fantasies.

Only by comparison, I think. As far as porn for men goes, I think pretty much any look or type imaginable is fairly well represented.

Rule 34 and all that.

441 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:23:29am

re: #438 ralphieboy

Take the flip side and look at a porn site. How many girls are there who are not young, large-breasted and big-lipped? Quite the minority.

To each his/her own fantasies.

I don't fit in with the authors norm either. I've always had a thing for skinny or athletic but the authors might be right. I know almost all my male friends disagree with my particular tastes. I do not like big butts, I cannot lie.

442 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:25:38am

re: #441 RogueOne

My ideal "type" runs to Audrey Hepburn and Grace Kelley. They're under-represented, I think, among porn stars. More research is needed...

443 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:29:09am

Here's a nice dose of adorability for the day:


My brother with a bunch of wolf cubs

444 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:29:55am

Doomsday prophecy: formula explained

A US evangelical Christian has predicted that the apocalypse will take place on Saturday, prompting derision from atheist groups. Here is Harold Camping's theory explained:

The equation he came up with is a self-made formula of numbers derived from a series of significant religious events - the founding of the stae of Israel in 1948, Jesus' order to "flee into the mountains" in Matthew 24, and the jubilee year of 1994.

The number five, says Camping, represents atonement.

10 represents completeness.

17 represents heaven.

Robert Fitzpatrick, who wrote a book on Camping's numbers, told The Daily Beast how the May 21 date was arrived at.

"A genius could not understand this," he said, "because God has to open your mind to allow you to understand this."

In Fitzpatrick's book, Camping argues that the Bible is filled with special meaning.

Using the three numbers, if you multiply atonement, completeness and heaven, and then, multiply the sum by itself again, you end up with 722,500 i.e. (5 x 10 x 17) x (5 x 10 x 17) = 722,500.

If you add the number of days on from the crucifixion, you arrive at, at least in Camping's view, May 21, 2011, the day of the end of the world.

Simply really.

Science!
/

445 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:30:16am

re: #442 Decatur Deb

I have had extensive romantic fantasies involving Natalie Merchant (who says that her feminie ideals are Hepburn and Kelly). Not just erotic/pornographic ones, but emotional fantasies.

Am I some kind of male lesbian heterosexual or what?

446 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:32:18am

re: #445 ralphieboy

I have had extensive romantic fantasies involving Natalie Merchant (who says that her feminie ideals are Hepburn and Kelly). Not just erotic/pornographic ones, but emotional fantasies.

Am I some kind of male lesbian heterosexual or what?

"emotional fantasies"? What kind of freak are you?///

447 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:33:14am

re: #445 ralphieboy

Hell, I have fantasies about my wife. Mainly about her having more free time and not being tired by med school all the time.

448 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:33:32am

re: #445 ralphieboy

I have had extensive romantic fantasies involving Natalie Merchant (who says that her feminie ideals are Hepburn and Kelly). Not just erotic/pornographic ones, but emotional fantasies.

Am I some kind of male lesbian heterosexual or what?

Are you Maniac 8,993?

449 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:33:45am

re: #446 RogueOne


I am afraid I need therapy to learn to appreciate spanking women...

450 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:34:24am

re: #445 ralphieboy

I have had extensive romantic fantasies involving Natalie Merchant (who says that her feminie ideals are Hepburn and Kelly). Not just erotic/pornographic ones, but emotional fantasies.

Am I some kind of male lesbian heterosexual or what?

As long as you aren't having sex with your car you have nothing to worry about.

451 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:34:37am

re: #448 Decatur Deb

Are you Maniac 8,993?


Now I am heartbroken. I thought I was higher up on the Maniac list.

452 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:35:27am

re: #449 ralphieboy

I am afraid I need therapy to learn to appreciate spanking women...

Well, if all the good girls get sucked up into heaven this weekend that might be a skill set you'll have to pick up.

453 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:36:42am

re: #450 NJDhockeyfan

As long as you aren't having sex with your car you have nothing to worry about.

Or a piece of patio furniture.


No Picnic: Man Charged With Screwing a Patio Table

454 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:39:12am

re: #453 Obdicut

Or a piece of patio furniture.


No Picnic: Man Charged With Screwing a Patio Table


I could almost begin to understand lawn gnomes or flamingoes. But a picnic table?

455 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:39:46am

re: #453 Obdicut

Or a piece of patio furniture.

No Picnic: Man Charged With Screwing a Patio Table

Almost makes me think we could invent a Rule 35: If it exists, some man, somewhere, has had sex with it.

456 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:40:01am

re: #454 ralphieboy

I could almost begin to understand lawn gnomes or flamingoes. But a picnic table?

Must have been a pretty hot picnic table.

457 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:40:52am

re: #456 NJDhockeyfan

Must have been a pretty hot picnic table.

It was asking for it. If it didn't want it, it would have kept its legs covered.

458 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:41:56am

re: #453 Obdicut

Or a piece of patio furniture.

No Picnic: Man Charged With Screwing a Patio Table

Won't load. How else do you put your patio table together?

459 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:44:20am

re: #458 Decatur Deb

Won't load. How else do you put your patio table together?

Nail it?

460 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:44:27am

re: #458 Decatur Deb

Try this version:

[Link: www.metro.co.uk...]

461 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:45:01am

So much for stopping Assad from killing his people by threats of sanctions...

SYRIA: Security forces gun down peaceful protesters, activists and video footage say

Clashes and gunfire rattled Syrian cities and towns Friday as President Bashar Assad's gunmen opened fire on crowds of thousands of peaceful protesters during another day of nationwide anti-government demonstrations that erupted as the weekly Muslim prayers ended, according to video footage and activist accounts.

Video posted to the Internet showed unarmed people panicking and fleeing as the rattle of automatic weapon fire erupted in the background.

The video above, said to have been filmed in an area near the town of Deir Zour in the far eastern parts of Syria, shows pandemonium in the streets as demonstrators try to take cover from what appears to be a barrage of gunfire directed at them.

"God is Great," protesters are heard screaming as gunshots ring out and as a cloud of black smoke is seen rising in the sky behind them. It wasn't clear if the gunmen were shooting at protesters, as they've done in recent weeks, or firing in the air.

The violence against peaceful protesters, on a day described as a Friday of Azadi (freedom in Kurdish) by activists to recognize the country's embattled Kurdish minority, was a striking show of contempt to President Obama's calls for human rights in Syria only hours earlier.

Syria-protests9A Syrian human rights lawyer told Babylon & Beyond that at least three protesters had been shot dead by security forces in the Bab Seda and Khaldia districts of the city of Homs, the country's restive third largest urban encalve. At least two protesters were also killed in the Damascus suburb of Dariya and the besieged southern town of Dara.

But many expect more casualties as the afternoon wears on.

462 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 5:54:34am

re: #455 thedopefishlives

Almost makes me think we could invent a Rule 35: If it exists, some man, somewhere, has had sex with it.

If it has an orifice, then yes, someone has...

And it is longer than it is wide, someone has compared it to a penis.

463 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:02:50am

I think Balko moves to the HuffPo starting next week. Here's what to expect:

Philadelphia District Attorney R. Seth Williams Should Be Arrested
[Link: www.theagitator.com...]


Citizens are expected to know every law. Break one, and you suffer the consequences. Ignorance is no defense, even when it comes to vague, obscure, or densely-written laws. But when law enforcement officials—the people we pay to enforce the criminal code—when they prove to be ignorant of the law, when they illegally detain, arrest, and jail someone based on a mistaken understanding of the law, they rarely if ever suffer any consequences.

The Fiorino case is a perfect example of that double standard. But the Fiorino case is even more pernicious. Because he’d had previous episodes with cops who were ignorant of local gun laws, Fiorino was carrying an audio recorder with him in Philadelphia. He recorded his confrontation with the Philly cops, and that audio exposed them for the ignorant, thuggish threats to the public that they are. (Note: I regularly caution against holding individual cops responsible for enforcing bad policy. I don’t use words like “ignorant” and “thuggish” lightly. These cops were both.) The recording Fiorino made of his encounter was also perfectly legal.

So what are we to then make of Philadelphia District Attorney R. Seth Williams’ decision to arrest and charge Fiorino after Fiorino posted the recordings on the Internet?

Here’s what I make of it: It’s criminal. Fiorino embarrassed Philadelphia cops, and Williams is punishing him for it. Williams and the police spokesman are claiming Fiorino deliberately provoked the cops. No, he didn’t. He didn’t wave the gun at anyone. He didn’t invite police scrutiny. The cops confronted him upon seeing a weapon he was legally carrying in a perfectly legal manner. And they were wrong. Make no mistake. This is blatant intimidation.

Backstory on the Fiorino saga:

Man who clashed with cops over legal gun was also armed with audio recorder
[Link: articles.philly.com...]

464 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:05:40am

Work to do. BBL

465 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:06:07am

Former Iranian Intelligence Officer Says Iran Helped Plan 9/11 Attacks

A former Iranian intelligence official who defected has claimed that Iran helped to plot the September 11 attacks, according to court papers filed on Thursday in a victims' lawsuit filed in Manhattan federal court against the Tehran government.

This official is one of three unidentified defectors from Iran's Ministry of Information and Security who testified under oath about "Iranian government complicity" before, during and after the terror strikes.

In addition to help devise the plan, the defector says that Iran supplied training in "airliner hijacking" and provided "material support for hundreds of al Qaeda fighters" after September 11. According to a description of the testimony in the court filing, he also said that the top leaders of al Qaeda, Hezbollah and Iran attended a series of meetings in Iran "during the months before" the attacks.

The ex-official's testimony was made during videotaped depositions and filed under seal. It comes as part of the $100 billion civil lawsuit filed by dozens of relatives of September 11 victims against Iran, al Qaeda, the Taliban, and others.

466 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:07:09am

re: #465 NJDhockeyfan

Must be a typo, we all know that Iraq was in on 9/11, that's why we invaded.

/

467 Wozza Matter?  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:08:57am

Yard work is kicking my ass.

But - still - for Charles -

TACOS

468 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:14:50am

Taco Wagon!

469 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:17:07am

Pakistan: Taliban Bomber Hits U.S. Vehicles

A Taliban suicide bomber rammed his motorbike into an armored vehicle taking American officials to the U.S consulate in northwest Pakistan on Friday, in a strike the militants said was in revenge for the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

Two Americans suffered minor injuries, but one Pakistani passer-by was killed and at least 10 others were wounded in the attack in the city of Peshawar, officials said. The strike was the first on Westerners since the May 2 raid by American commandos on bin Laden's hideout in an army town around three hours from Peshawar.

The Pakistani Taliban, an al-Qaeda-allied group behind scores of attacks in recent years, claimed responsibility.

"We say to the Americans and NATO that we will carry out more deadly attacks and we can do it," Taliban spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan said in a phone call from an undisclosed location. "We had warned that we will avenge the martyrdom of Osama."

If we just negotiate with the Taliban the killings will stop!
//

470 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:27:10am

Sheriff's Captain Resigns Over Facebook Comments
[Link: www.wsbtv.com...]


BARROW COUNTY, Ga. -- A captain with the Barrow County Sheriff’s office has resigned after he came under fire for posting controversial comments on his Facebook page.

The Facebook postings began with talk of high gas prices and goes on to ask “Damocrats, blacks or African-Americans where is the outrage towards your [bigoted word]ed leader.”

It went on to say you “voted this camel jockey into office.” And ends with “I guess you're too busy helping baby killers, gays, and pot heads.”

The page belongs to Lewis Rusgrove, who identified himself on the page as captain, CID, or Criminal Investigations Department at the Barrow County Sheriff's office.

Whoa. I'm glad he resigned. If he had been fired they probably would have had to re-hire him at some point.

471 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:28:53am

re: #470 RogueOne

One thing to spout this at the local tavern while off duty. Another thing to post it on the Interwebs.

472 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:31:35am

re: #471 ralphieboy

One thing to spout this at the local tavern while off duty. Another thing to post it on the Interwebs.

Free speech is one thing but having someone who holds those views and the ability to arrest people at gunpoint is another.

473 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:33:55am

Mornin' lacerti... Well, as with most major events, the jokes about tomorrow are getting a little shopworn. There are more facebook "rapture parties" than you can shake a stick at. But this one was kind of cute. (for those not on facebook, it reads "Scare the Christians on Judgment Day by leaving shoes with dry ice lying around"

474 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:39:32am

re: #473 darthstar

The dry ice is a nice touch... I'd add a little fire/scorch marks around the clothes/shoes, but otherwise that's awesome!

475 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:45:43am

re: #469 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan: Taliban Bomber Hits U.S. Vehicles

If we just negotiate with the Taliban the killings will stop!
//

We expect a few of these incidents to happen, as al Zawahiri and his remaining lieutenants or whatever the fuck they are try to regroup (before the data found in bin Laden's house leads to their capture). So they'll send a few young guys out to kill themselves (and others) in an effort to remain relevant. "Pakistani Taliban, an al Qaeda ally"...sounds like a group of wannabes - like the "Beverly Hills Crips"

476 RogueOne  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:50:13am

I have work that needs accomplished. Enjoy the day people! I'll expect you all to check in tomorrow so we know what lizards made it to heaven and who didn't.

477 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:55:33am

re: #476 RogueOne

I have work that needs accomplished. Enjoy the day people! I'll expect you all to check in tomorrow so we know what lizards made it to heaven and who didn't.

It was yesterday...hate to burst everyone who got left behind's bubble. It's nice here in heaven, though...got my wife lying next to me, my dogs and my cat...even have internet access! The only thing that's kind of disturbing is that my work computer came with me.

478 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 6:58:34am

re: #477 darthstar


Yes, but look closely, there are no deadlines...

479 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:00:10am

Bibi and Obama

The relationship has been over for a while, as I wrote in January, and Helene Cooper includes this detail in the run-up to what is likely to be a tense meeting today:

Mr. Netanyahu has complained that Mr. Obama has pushed Israel too far — a point driven home during a furious phone call with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday morning, just hours before Mr. Obama’s speech, during which the prime minister reacted angrily to the president’s plan to endorse Israel’s pre-1967 borders for a future Palestinian state.

Obama's relationship with Israel really does appear to be special, in the sense that it is especially difficult. He mentioned Israel yesterday far more than any other country -- 28 times -- and it's hard to think of any world leader whom he ever meets, much less meets with regularity, whom the White House views with the kind of personal rancor that will meet Netanyahu today.

Today's meeting should be interesting.

480 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:03:11am

re: #479 NJDhockeyfan


So this indicates that Bibster was not just upset about an Obama misquote, he was annoyed at the very thought of any borders that have to do with 1967, swaps or not.

Would it not be grand if every nation could just draw its own borders wherever it found them to be the most "secure"...

481 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:05:11am

re: #479 NJDhockeyfan

I'm sure that the meeting will cover all the usual spots - Obama will press Bibi on settlements, Bibi will demand Obama pressure Abbas and the PA to make additional security guarantees and assure that the PA wont declare independence outside of the Oslo process (aka negotiating directly between Israel and the PA).

But most of all, the real deals will be outside public view. Obama will likely reiterate that the US position hasn't changed despite how the media and pundits are portraying it. In fact, I expect Obama to note that he demanded that the Palestinians give up on trying to supplant Israel and that they can only get to statehood if they accept Israel's inalienable right to exist. That's a big thing (well, it's a restatement of Oslo, but it's the strongest statement in years on point).

In many respects this is kabuki theater - with the sides playing to type.

482 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:06:46am

re: #481 lawhawk

Not Kabuki, this is No(h) theater.

483 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:06:52am

re: #479 NJDhockeyfan

Bibi and Obama

Obama's relationship with Israel really does appear to be special, in the sense that it is especially difficult. He mentioned Israel yesterday far more than any other country -- 28 times -- and it's hard to think of any world leader whom he ever meets, much less meets with regularity, whom the White House views with the kind of personal rancor that will meet Netanyahu today.

Today's meeting should be interesting.

So much hyped up bullshit came out of the fake outrage over yesterday's speech it boggles the mind. The speech was about much more than Israel and Palestine - it was about the Middle East in general and some of the changes they're experiencing...and setting the US up as an ally of progress in the Middle East. There was no change in US policy from the last 30 years regarding Israel.

I think I'll let Obama and Netanyahu have their own conversation without projecting some kind of Real Houswives of New Jersey conflict onto them...and I'll wait for what they have to say, rather than listen to pundits who simply want to be the first to guess who gets voted off the island.

484 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:08:19am

re: #480 ralphieboy

Considering that most countries draw their borders based on lands conquered and captured from the vanquished, yes. Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza in 1967 - vanquishing the Egyptians and Jordanians who occupied those lands since 1948 when they failed to eradicate Israel. The 1948 line was itself an armistice, and Israel's official borders with Egypt were set in place under the Camp David Accords except as it related to Gaza. A deal with Jordan didn't involve land for peace.

In Israel's case, the eventual borders are likely to be on the grounds that differ from those drawn in pretty much every other instance in history.

485 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:08:44am

re: #469 NJDhockeyfan

Pakistan: Taliban Bomber Hits U.S. Vehicles

If we just negotiate with the Taliban the killings will stop!
//

Motorbike vs armor--more of that sophisticated mujhad planning.

486 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:10:00am

re: #485 Decatur Deb

I've seen other reports that indicated that 110 pounds of explosives were used and it was a car bomb - not a motorbike. Fog of war I guess, but either way, the US convoy was sufficiently protected to keep from sustaining serious injuries.

487 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:10:38am

re: #484 lawhawk

Your eaglets are getting wet.

488 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:17:10am

Meanwhile something seems to be brewing at the Israeli border...

Gaza Intifada provocateur injured by IDF fire

Dozens of Palestinians approached the eastern security fence near Khan Yunis Friday, setting tires on fire and renewing the riots along the Israeli border.

A Palestinian activist marching for a 3rd Intifada was injured by IDF fire, according to Palestinians sources in the Gaza Strip.

An IDF official reported a group IDF soldiers fired in response, aiming at the lower half of the provocateur's body, injuring him.

The demonstrators proceeded to protest as they backed away from the fence.

489 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:20:29am

re: #488 NJDhockeyfan

Meanwhile something seems to be brewing at the Israeli border...

Gaza Intifada provocateur injured by IDF fire

We had this talk the other day, about the intrinsic value of shooting unarmed people for getting too close to a fence...to restate my position, I don't see it as a good thing.

490 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:24:15am

re: #489 darthstar

We had this talk the other day, about the intrinsic value of shooting unarmed people for getting too close to a fence...to restate my position, I don't see it as a good thing.

The IDF uses non-lethal bullets. They "lay down tracks" which means to shoot in between the rioters, in order to get them to disperse.

491 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:26:54am

re: #489 darthstar

We had this talk the other day, about the intrinsic value of shooting unarmed people for getting too close to a fence...to restate my position, I don't see it as a good thing.

How is the IDF supposed to know if these Palestinian 'activists' are wearing a suicide bomb vest or not? They are not trying to kill them or that guy would be 6 feet under right now.

492 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:31:09am

re: #489 darthstar

We had this talk the other day, about the intrinsic value of shooting unarmed people for getting too close to a fence...to restate my position, I don't see it as a good thing.

Maybe it's just me ..BUT ,,, in the past if my friends got shot at approaching a fence menacingly ,,, I wouldn't approach a fence menacingly!

493 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:31:25am

re: #491 NJDhockeyfan

How is the IDF supposed to know if these Palestinian 'activists' are wearing a suicide bomb vest or not? They are not trying to kill them or that guy would be 6 feet under right now.

From the media pictures, it looks like most protesters are running around in t-shirts this time of year (temperatures being in the 70s and all). I think someone wearing a heavy coat to hide a suicide vest would probably stand out, and the red mist they made when shot in the detonator would give them away. Not everyone is wearing dynamite vests over there, you know.

494 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:32:18am

re: #492 sattv4u2

Maybe it's just me ..BUT ,,, in the past if my friends got shot at approaching a fence menacingly ,,, I wouldn't approach a fence menacingly!


Sounds like the ideal solution to our own border and immigration problems

/

495 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:32:20am

re: #236 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, that sounds like what I heard. Folks here were not making much sense for a while.

Not to dig this back up again, but I'm sorta glad to see I'm not the only person this happened with (As most everyone else seemed pretty clear on what they saw the speech as saying). Once I got past my iffy, confused geography and getting caught up in how everyone here was reacting, I basically became extremely puzzled myself on that whole lines deal. I'm not entirely sure how it happened, but, as Charles eventually acknowledged, the real issue with the news reports seemed to have gotten a bit lost in the "What 1967 means" stuff, which itself seemed to have been a pretty confused discussion at times...

496 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:33:43am

re: #493 darthstar

From the media pictures, it looks like most protesters are running around in t-shirts this time of year (temperatures being in the 70s and all). I think someone wearing a heavy coat to hide a suicide vest would probably stand out, and the red mist they made when shot in the detonator would give them away. Not everyone is wearing dynamite vests over there, you know.

OK, they are just poor misunderstood unarmed youths being viciously attacked by those evil Zionists with weapons.
/

497 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:34:17am

re: #492 sattv4u2

Maybe it's just me ..BUT ,,, in the past if my friends got shot at approaching a fence menacingly ,,, I wouldn't approach a fence menacingly!

Good point. And you remind me...I need to menacingly go iron a shirt and a Hermes scarf for my wife so she can get ready to go menacingly to work. Then I'm going to run the dogs menacingly along the beach (a fair description if you ever saw Banjo near the surf), and after that I'll menace my ass off to work for a few hours.

Have a menacingly beautiful day, everyone.

498 darthstar  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:34:55am

re: #494 ralphieboy

Sounds like the ideal solution to our own border and immigration problems

/

It's the menacing fetuses coming to be anchor terrorists.

499 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:35:37am

re: #497 darthstar

Good point. And you remind me...I need to menacingly go iron a shirt and a Hermes scarf for my wife so she can get ready to go menacingly to work. Then I'm going to run the dogs menacingly along the beach (a fair description if you ever saw Banjo near the surf), and after that I'll menace my ass off to work for a few hours.

Have a menacingly beautiful day, everyone.

Later Dennis//

500 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:35:46am

re: #497 darthstar

Have a menacingly beautiful day, everyone.

Oh cool, the Rapture's tomorrow.

/ :P

501 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:36:17am

Menacingly or mincingly?

502 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:37:39am

re: #497 darthstar

re: #497 darthstar

Then I'm going to run the dogs menacingly along the beach

Lets say just about every time someone approached your dog on the beach the dog would growl at and snip at that person

Over time, I would think people would stop approaching your dog

503 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:38:30am

No Newt Moment For Jon Huntsman: He’s 100% Behind Ending Medicare

In his first major television interview of his likely presidential campaign rollout this morning, former Utah Gov. and Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman avoided his own Newt Gingrich moment. The House Republican plan to privatize Medicare? Count Huntsman in.

"I would've voted for it," he told ABC's George Stephanopoulos Friday morning. "Including the Medicare provisions."

504 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:40:03am

re: #503 Killgore Trout

No Newt Moment For Jon Huntsman: He’s 100% Behind Ending Medicare

Just in case people were wondering if Huntsman knew he had to tap into the Tea Party vibe to even stand a chance...

505 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:40:50am

re: #494 ralphieboy

Sounds like the ideal solution to our own border and immigration problems

/

No need

We're going to have a moat ,,, with alligators!

506 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:41:01am

re: #503 Killgore Trout


He just can't wait to get his government hands on their Medicare...

507 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:41:22am

re: #505 sattv4u2

No need

We're going to have a moat ,,, with alligators!


menacing aligators, I assume.

508 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:41:45am

If it's Friday, it means that Assad's thugs are busy murdering protesters who have again taken to the streets to protest against Assad's brutal regime.

509 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:42:06am

re: #504 laZardo

Just in case people were wondering if Huntsman knew he had to tap into the Tea Party vibe to even stand a chance...

Yup, I guess we now know that he's going to make no effort to run on a moderate platform. It's s shame because he's not going to get the nomination and this will hurt his ability to run again in the future. Stupid move.

510 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:44:04am

re: #509 Killgore Trout

Yup, I guess we now know that he's going to make no effort to run on a moderate platform. It's s shame because he's not going to get the nomination and this will hurt his ability to run again in the future. Stupid move.

Stupid, perhaps, but not really surprising.

511 RadicalModerate  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:45:01am

Well, that didn't take long.

On the heels of the Indiana Supreme Court saying that warrantless searches of homes is OK, we've got a sheriff already stating that he's going to take advantage of the ruling.

What 4th Amendment? Indiana Sheriff Says Random, Warrantless House To House Searches Are Okay

According to Newton County Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr., random house to house searches are now possible and could be helpful following the Barnes v. STATE of INDIANA Supreme Court ruling issued on May 12th, 2011. When asked three separate times due to the astounding callousness as it relates to trampling the inherent natural rights of Americans, he emphatically indicated that he would use random house to house checks, adding he felt people will welcome random searches if it means capturing a criminal.

512 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:46:57am

re: #511 RadicalModerate

Well, that didn't take long.

On the heels of the Indiana Supreme Court saying that warrantless searches of homes is OK, we've got a sheriff already stating that he's going to take advantage of the ruling.

What 4th Amendment? Indiana Sheriff Says Random, Warrantless House To House Searches Are Okay

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin.

513 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:47:24am

Pam Geller is calling for a protest against Obama today...

An emergency rally to protest the outrageous speech of President Barack Obama!
Friday May 20th at 12:0opm, The Israeli Consulate, 800 2nd Ave & 42nd Street

Please join us in telling the president that: WE AIN'T GOING BACK TO AUSCHWITZ!
Please invite everyone of your facebook friends to this event:
Forward this email and most important: SHOW UP TO THE RALLY AT 12:00 PM


Good luck with that

514 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:50:25am

re: #513 Killgore Trout

Pam Geller is calling for a protest against Obama today...


Good luck with that

"We ain't going back to Auschwitz?" What the heck, is she serious? Who's threatening another Holocaust (outside the Arab world), I'd like to know?

515 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:50:40am

re: #513 Killgore Trout

Pam Geller is calling for a protest against Obama today...
Good luck with that

The Shrieking HarpieTM cut and paste the text of the President's speech at her shriek blog but obviously never bothered to read it.

FAIL.

516 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:52:31am

re: #513 Killgore Trout

I figure there will be a sizable crowd - many of which never actually read what was said or relied on media reports that have seriously distorted what was stated and the onus on the Palestinians to recognize a 2-state solution.

Without accepting a 2-state solution, no one gets to the point of talking about borders/lines/maps.

517 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:53:24am

re: #511 RadicalModerate

We need guns to protect us against government abuse of our rights but we are not alllowed to use them?

/

518 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:57:52am

re: #516 lawhawk

I figure there will be a sizable crowd - many of which never actually read what was said or relied on media reports that have seriously distorted what was stated and the onus on the Palestinians to recognize a 2-state solution.

Without accepting a 2-state solution, no one gets to the point of talking about borders/lines/maps.

And I wonder how many Kafiya wearing counter-protesters will show up holding anti-Israeli signs

519 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 7:59:44am

re: #518 sattv4u2

And I wonder how many Kafiya wearing counter-protesters will show up holding anti-Israeli signs

And I wonder how many outrage-fatigued New Yorkers will walk by by and mutter "A pox on both your houses."

520 Daniel Ballard  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:00:44am

re: #511 RadicalModerate

Well, that didn't take long.

On the heels of the Indiana Supreme Court saying that warrantless searches of homes is OK, we've got a sheriff already stating that he's going to take advantage of the ruling.

What 4th Amendment? Indiana Sheriff Says Random, Warrantless House To House Searches Are Okay

Page worthy. +1

521 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:01:16am

re: #519 Decatur Deb

And I wonder how many outrage-fatigued New Yorkers will walk by by and mutter "A pox on both your houses."

Most won't even notice

They walk briskly, heads down avoiding eye contact

522 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:03:00am

re: #521 sattv4u2

Most won't even notice

They walk briskly, heads down avoiding eye contact

"Don't make eye contact; if you make eye contact, they'll kill you."

--The Out-of-Towners

523 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:05:48am

re: #522 Decatur Deb

"Don't make eye contact; if you make eye contact, they'll kill you."

--The Out-of-Towners

The original was a great movie

The re-make, not so much

(although I generally enjoy Steve Martin)

524 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:06:26am

re: #523 sattv4u2

The original was a great movie

The re-make, not so much

(although I generally enjoy Steve Martin)

Yeah-- Jack Lemon for the win.

525 Walter L. Newton  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:21:40am

I just did a sweep of todays news articles about President Obama's speech yesterday, and the mainstream media is still falsely reporting that the president was referring to pre-1967 order lines.

Is Charles and LGF the only blog/news source that understood correctly what President Obama said. It's frustrating to read the mistake time and time again. Maybe we should email all these sources and tell them to read this blog.

They are all stuck on stupid. It's the 1967 boarders AFTER the war... idiots.

526 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:22:24am

Jon Stewart absolutely dissects Ben Stein's inane defense of DSK.

[Stein had said that] "The prosecutors say that Mr. Strauss-Kahn 'forced' the complainant to have oral and other sex with him. How? Did he have a gun? Did he have a knife? He's a short fat old man," and "Can anyone tell me any economists who have been convicted of violent sex crimes?" Well, Stewart managed to find some examples, leading him to declare, "Economists are the rapiest profession going. It turns out the invisible hand of the market is very f***ing touchy feely... Yes, it's a redistribution of rape."

Ouch.

527 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:23:32am
528 Walter L. Newton  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:24:14am
529 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:24:18am

re: #527 lawhawk

Not that it means anything if the Palestinians continue to accept reject Israel's very right to exist.

PIMF

530 Daniel Ballard  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:26:01am

re: #529 lawhawk

Perhaps the hours after the meet with Netanyahu will be the moment for the much needed clarifications.

531 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:26:21am

Well, this is interesting:

Huntsman Flanks Left On Afghanistan: The War ‘Is Not Consistent With How We Ought To Be Responding’

Much as I like Huntsman, I don't know how this won't get savaged by the GOP base.

532 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:27:21am

re: #525 Walter L. Newton

They are all stuck on stupid. It's the 1967 boarders AFTER the war... idiots.

If were talking about after the 1967 war, then Egypt should give back the Sinai?

///

533 Interesting Times  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:27:33am

re: #531 Lidane

Speaking of Huntsman, see upthread. No medicare for you! :(

534 Walter L. Newton  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:28:24am

re: #532 laZardo

If were talking about after the 1967 war, then Egypt should give back the Sinai?

///

Obama was talking about the borders after the war... Charles clarified that yesterday. The media got it all wrong.

535 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:28:44am

re: #525 Walter L. Newton

Is Charles and LGF the only blog/news source that understood correctly what President Obama said.

No, Ben Smith at Politico got it, as did, oddly enough, Ed Morrissey at Hot Air. The ADL got it, as well.

536 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:29:14am

re: #531 Lidane

Well, this is interesting:

Huntsman Flanks Left On Afghanistan: The War ‘Is Not Consistent With How We Ought To Be Responding’

Much as I like Huntsman, I don't know how this won't get savaged by the GOP base.

And moderates. The people are getting tired of the war in Afghanistan but I think it's a mistake to paint the effort there as a waste of time.

537 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:29:41am

Finally a moment of sanity on the Obama speech courtesy of the CSM:

Netanyahu, who sometimes users bluster as a negotiating tool, practically ordered Obama to change course yesterday. In a statement ahead of his US trip that began today Netanyahu said a Palestinian state would not be founded "at Israel's expense" and that he "expects to hear from President Obama a reconfirmation of commitments to Israel from 2004." The Jerusalem Post characterized Netanyahu's response as "quick and bitter."

But what is the commitment from 2004? It's a letter written by President George W. Bush that ... suggests more or less the same thing that Obama said yesterday.

"In light of new realities on the ground, including already existing major Israeli population centers, it is unrealistic to expect that the outcome of final status negotiations will be a full and complete return to the armistice lines of 1949, and all previous efforts to negotiate a two-state solution have reached the same conclusion," President Bush wrote to former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in April of 2004. "It is realistic to expect that any final status agreement will only be achieved on the basis of mutually agreed changes that reflect these realities."

Now, the language of Bush's comment may be flipped a little, in the sense that he emphasizes that the borders will be different from the 1949-67 borders rather than emphasizing that those should be the starting point, but the overall sense is the same. The real contours of the borders will be determined between the Israelis and Palestinians with "mutually agreed changes" (in Bush's formulation) or "mutually agreed land swaps" (in Obama's).

538 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:30:17am

re: #533 publicityStunted

See, this is why I wanted Huntsman to wait until 2016. Now he's having to align himself with the recent weapons-grade stupid from the GOP.

539 ProGunLiberal  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:31:49am

If I were Israel right now, I'd duck and cover (literally). The situation in Syria is getting worse. From Al-Jazeera:

AJELive AJELive
Robert Fisk on #Syria: It’s becoming a civil war, civilians are shooting back #AJE

From now on, my daily update (sorry about yesterday) will include events in Syria.

540 allegro  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:32:13am

re: #538 Lidane

See, this is why I wanted Huntsman to wait until 2016. Now he's having to align himself with the recent weapons-grade stupid from the GOP.

I don't know that much about the guy's policy beliefs, but what if he's not pandering and actually buys into his lines? Are there reasons to think otherwise?

Just wondering.

541 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:35:54am

re: #540 allegro

He was sane in reasonable-- comparatively-- in Utah, when he didn't have to be. He could have been far more conservative-- socially and fiscally-- if those really were his beliefs, back then.

He could have changed, of course. It's very disappointing that he acknowledges global warming but doesn't feel we should really, you know, do anything about it.

542 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:38:27am

re: #540 allegro

I'm thinking in terms of the long-term viability of the Republican Party. Right now, the GOP base wants red meat and they want a full-on wingnut firebrand to get the Seekrit Mooslim Overlord out of the White House. They want a Bachmann, or a Palin, or someone along the same lines.

I want the GOP to nominate that full-on wingnut firebrand so that should they lose, there won't be any bitching from the peanut gallery about how the candidate wasn't conservative enough. The GOP desperately needs a housecleaning, and the only thing that will accomplish it is nominating a teabagger/birther wingnut loon and getting curbstomped for it.

543 Stanghazi  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:40:01am

haha

TheBullGator The Bull Gator

RT @FakeRexGrossman: So after this whole rapture thing tomorrow, that means no more Tim Tebow, right...?

544 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:43:18am
545 Stanghazi  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:43:46am

Jeffrey Goldberg is a must read

Dear Mr. Netanyahu, Please Don't Speak to My President That Way

For whatever reason, I tend to react strongly when a foreign leader disrespects the United States, and its President. I didn't like it when Hugo Chavez of Venezuela insulted President Bush; I don't like listening to Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan lecture the U.S. on its sins, and I'm not happy when certain Pakistani leaders gin-up righteous indignation about American behavior when it was their country that served as a refuge for the greatest mass murderer in American history.

[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

546 Stanghazi  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:44:10am

re: #544 Lidane

Ha!

Rapture Day prank

LOL

547 Walter L. Newton  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:46:04am

re: #544 Lidane

Ha!

Rapture Day prank

The only person that may be raptured is Camping himself. The "ministry" is doing fine financially and I wouldn't be surprised if you see Camping haul off with some of the money after Sat.

Doomsday church: Still open for business

At the center of it all, Camping's organization, Family Radio, is perfectly happy to take your money -- and in fact, received $80 million in contributions between 2005 and 2009. Camping founded Family Radio, a nonprofit Christian radio network based in Oakland, Calif. with about 65 stations across the country, in 1958

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

548 ProGunLiberal  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:49:25am

Meanwhile, Spain seem to have caught the revolutionary bug (sort of)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

549 What, me worry?  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:49:51am

re: #547 Walter L. Newton

The only person that may be raptured is Camping himself. The "ministry" is doing fine financially and I wouldn't be surprised if you see Camping haul off with some of the money after Sat.

Doomsday church: Still open for business

[Link: money.cnn.com...]

I posted this above, but looking at all the merchandising (Rapture shirts and hats) and advertising (familyradio.com is written on everything), Camping is going to be one happy camper come May 22.

550 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:51:48am

re: #549 marjoriemoon

I posted this above, but looking at all the merchandising (Rapture shirts and hats) and advertising (familyradio.com is written on everything), Camping is going to be one happy camper come May 22.

You don't think some dissatisfied customers will be asking for their money back?

551 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:52:49am

re: #549 marjoriemoon

re: #550 Alouette

You don't think some dissatisfied customers will be asking for their money back?

" I went to the Rapture, and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt"

552 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:55:25am

Looks like Hunstman is going to self destruct on the launching pad....
Jon Huntsman: Libya action a mistake

553 Walter L. Newton  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:55:36am

re: #546 Stanley Sea

LOL

Wait for a "spiritual" rationalization of the rapture after nothing happens. For Jehovah's Witnesses 1914 was the big date. They've predicted some other minor rapture related dates since then, but 1914 was the date when it was all suppose to end. In 1914, they name of the organization was still "The Bible Students." They didn't adopt the JW name until the 1930's.

When the rapture didn't happen, they surmised that something did happen, but it happened in heaven. Christ had "returned" to his throne and sat on it in Oct. 1914, and he has been running his Kingdom from that throne since then. He is gathering more true believers (read: Jehovah's Witnesses) and he will return to earth to cleanse it sometime in the future.

Camping will probably have some "spiritual" explanation for the absent rapture, claiming something happened in the hidden realm, all still part of god's plan for man.

(addendum: For those interested in fringe Christian dogma... try to find a pre-1914 copy of the book "God's Plan for Man" published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. You will see how Jehovah's Witnesses (nee: The Bible Students) manufactured the whole 1914 end of the world scenario. Later copies of the book modified the text to remove certain literal references to 1914.)

554 zora  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:55:37am

re: #531 Lidane

Well, this is interesting:

Huntsman Flanks Left On Afghanistan: The War ‘Is Not Consistent With How We Ought To Be Responding’

Much as I like Huntsman, I don't know how this won't get savaged by the GOP base.

Jon Huntsman's moves trouble Utah

Huntsman’s recent decision to headquarter his campaign in Florida makes sense for logistical and political reasons but the location—and some recent remarks about his faith — have combined to produce a sharp reaction from the Mormon Establishment, solidifying the impression for many of the former governor’s constituents that he plans to keep his distance in more ways than one.

“He’s trying to create a brand name that doesn’t keep ‘Utah’ and ‘Mormon’ at the forefront of people’s minds,” said Quin Monson, a political science professor at Brigham Young University. “‘Mormon’ didn’t do a lot for Mitt Romney. I think Huntsman is deliberately trying to brand himself in a different way.”
...But it really exploded after a Time Magazine interview where Huntsman appeared to go wobbly at a key moment. Asked point blank whether he was still a Mormon at all, Huntsman sounded as if he was dodging. “That’s tough to define,” he said.

Read more: [Link: www.politico.com...]

555 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:57:06am

re: #550 Alouette

You don't think some dissatisfied customers will be asking for their money back?

I'm thinking he's going to get visits from the people who spent their entire life savings and/or gave away their possessions based on his prediction of the Rapture.

556 What, me worry?  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:58:17am

re: #551 sattv4u2

re: #550 Alouette

" I went to the Rapture, and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt"

Oh dear. You must market that!

557 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:58:33am

The crazy uncle speaks!

Ron Paul on Obama speech: Will US invade Syria?

..."Our military is already dangerously extended, and this administration wants to expand our involvement. When will our bombing in Libya end? Is President Obama seriously considering military action against Syria? We are facing $2 trillion dollar [sic] deficits, and the American taxpayer cannot afford any of it," he said in a statement.

A central part of Paul's platform is his skepticism of the U.S.'s interventionist posture when it comes to foreign policy.

Earlier this week, Paul expressed fear that the U.S. will invade Pakistan, citing the special operations forces mission that killed terrorist Osama bin Laden.
...

Heh.

558 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 8:59:48am

re: #556 marjoriemoon

Oh dear. You must market that!

In a past life, I was co-owner of a screen printing business, mostly T-Shirts for teams and small companies

My partner and I would brainstorm things like that all the time

559 Walter L. Newton  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:00:28am

re: #558 sattv4u2

In a past life, I was co-owner of a screen printing business, mostly T-Shirts for teams and small companies

My partner and I would brainstorm things like that all the time

That didn't take much braining :)

560 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:01:06am

re: #559 Walter L. Newton

That didn't take much braining :)

Good thing

After all these decades of abuse, I don't have much left!

561 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:01:41am

re: #557 NJDhockeyfan

The crazy uncle speaks!

Ron Paul on Obama speech: Will US invade Syria?

Heh.

Luap Nor is simply getting paranoid. The US doesn't just invade random places for the fun of it. Even the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were preceded by plenty of speeches and votes of Congress.

562 Summer Seale  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:01:56am

Hi Everyone! =)

I just want to say that I'm the proud new owner of a beautiful MacBook Pro 17", 8 Gig Ram, 500 Gb HD at 7200 RPM, Anti-glare screen laptop, and it's gorgeous!!!!

I couldn't be happier.

Well, I could win the lottery right now but that's pushing it I guess. =)

563 What, me worry?  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:04:17am

re: #555 Lidane

I'm thinking he's going to get visits from the people who spent their entire life savings and/or gave away their possessions based on his prediction of the Rapture.

My husband has two words for those folks. Natural selection.

564 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:06:21am

MSNBC Host Uygur: Obama Speech 'Leaning Too Much Towards Israel'

BARACK OBAMA: Israel, too, must act boldly to advance of a lasting peace. The dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation.

CENK UYGUR: That also seems incredibly obvious to me, but of course Republicans are also steaming mad about that. I guess they are for a permanent occupation and oppression of millions of people . . . If anything I think that the president's speech was, you know, too much leaning towards Israel. Of course Republicans will lose their minds if they hear that. But that will be fun to watch either way.

Nice reporting there MSNBC.
[spit]

565 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:08:47am

re: #564 NJDhockeyfan

MSNBC Host Uygur: Obama Speech 'Leaning Too Much Towards Israel'

Nice reporting there MSNBC.
[spit]

As far as I can tell Maddow avoids the topic of Israel but I would guess that she's not exactly a Zionist either.

567 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:16:20am

re: #565 Killgore Trout

She's actually quite sane on the issue.

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

568 Obdicut  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:20:00am

and apologies for citing to that insane site. Should have cached it.

569 RadicalModerate  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:26:48am

re: #568 Obdicut

and apologies for citing to that insane site. Should have cached it.

Yikes. I was about to ask about that.

570 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:27:17am

Fiscal responsibility!

Texas plans to cut budget of agency battling fires

Because really, when there are wildfires raging all over the state, the smart thing to do is make it harder for the state to fight those fires. Idiots.

571 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:31:15am

re: #570 Lidane

Fiscal responsibility!

Texas plans to cut budget of agency battling fires

Because really, when there are wildfires raging all over the state, the smart thing to do is make it harder for the state to fight those fires. Idiots.

Exactly. The real problem is that fighting them infringes on the rights of the fires to burn wherever they want to.

572 Renaissance_Man  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:42:23am

re: #571 Simply Sarah

Exactly. The real problem is that fighting them infringes on the rights of the fires to burn wherever they want to.

It would make much more sense to save that money and move to a fee-for-service subscription firefighting business. That would be much more free, and put things in the hands of private enterprise where it belongs.

573 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:43:06am

re: #567 Obdicut

She's actually quite sane on the issue.

[Link: www.stoptheaclu.com...]

Ah, that's nice to see.

574 engineer cat  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:43:47am

partly cloudy, with massive earthquakes belching up corpses

575 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:45:13am

re: #572 Renaissance_Man

Because the free market solves everything?

576 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:45:58am

re: #572 Renaissance_Man

It would make much more sense to save that money and move to a fee-for-service subscription firefighting business. That would be much more free, and put things in the hands of private enterprise where it belongs.

Like this made so much sense.

577 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:50:11am

re: #572 Renaissance_Man

It would make much more sense to save that money and move to a fee-for-service subscription firefighting business. That would be much more free, and put things in the hands of private enterprise where it belongs.

The funny thing is, here in Manila the local Chinese-Filipino communities run volunteer fighter services in often garishly-decorated firetrucks.

To add insult to injury, it's probably because corrupt city officials really cannot be arsed to build their own fire departments, probably because they don't want to risk their reputation when they can't put out the squatter fires that usually rage every now and then.

578 Renaissance_Man  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:50:51am

re: #575 Lidane

Because the free market solves everything?

Exactly.

re: #576 Alouette

Like this made so much sense.

See? Now there's a clear case of free enterprise respecting property rights. As Rand intended.

579 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:52:04am

re: #578 Renaissance_Man

Exactly.

re: #576 Alouette

See? Now there's a clear case of free enterprise respecting property rights. As Rand intended.

You forgot to add the "/" tag

580 Romantic Heretic  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:54:14am

re: #561 thedopefishlives

Luap Nor is simply getting paranoid. The US doesn't just invade random places for the fun of it. Even the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were preceded by plenty of speeches and votes of Congress.

Getting?

581 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:55:15am

OOOHHH NOOO.

Macho Man Randy Savage -- one of the greatest wrestlers of all-time -- died today in a car accident in Tampa, Florida

I know it's TMZ but still.

582 Romantic Heretic  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:56:21am

re: #562 Summer

Hi Everyone! =)

I just want to say that I'm the proud new owner of a beautiful MacBook Pro 17", 8 Gig Ram, 500 Gb HD at 7200 RPM, Anti-glare screen laptop, and it's gorgeous!!!

I couldn't be happier.

Well, I could win the lottery right now but that's pushing it I guess. =)

I got one of the 21" iMacs a couple of weeks ago. Nice machine.

Biggest problem is the Magic Mouse consumes batteries at a ridiculous rate. I have to get the battery charger and battery bundle. It'll pay for itself in about three months.

583 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:57:12am

re: #581 laZardo

Holy crap. That sucks.

584 Romantic Heretic  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:58:05am

re: #581 laZardo

OOOHHH NOOO.

I know it's TMZ but still.

Well, shucks and other comments.

585 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 9:59:07am

re: #583 lawhawk

Yay verily is the rapture supposed to have been upon me about 58 minutes ago. :P

586 McSpiff  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:01:06am

re: #484 lawhawk

Considering that most countries draw their borders based on lands conquered and captured from the vanquished, yes. Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza in 1967 - vanquishing the Egyptians and Jordanians who occupied those lands since 1948 when they failed to eradicate Israel. The 1948 line was itself an armistice, and Israel's official borders with Egypt were set in place under the Camp David Accords except as it related to Gaza. A deal with Jordan didn't involve land for peace.

In Israel's case, the eventual borders are likely to be on the grounds that differ from those drawn in pretty much every other instance in history.

re: #557 NJDhockeyfan

The crazy uncle speaks!

Ron Paul on Obama speech: Will US invade Syria?

Heh.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news to Nor Luap...

Army Calls For Increased Body Armor For Troops In Syria

WASHINGTON—Citing a sharp increase in casualties among combat troops in Syria, top military officers Wednesday called for the distribution of improved body armor to all soldiers in the region while also expressing regret for informing the nation of the ongoing Syrian War in this admittedly awkward way.

...

587 McSpiff  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:02:19am

re: #586 McSpiff

I really need to start clearing out half written comments before i walk away from the computer... sorry for the awkward formatting on that one.

588 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:04:47am

re: #586 McSpiff

I am suddenly reminded of the Year Zero ARG. Something about the "Airborne Crusaders" in Syria when the giant hand comes out of the sky.

589 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:07:02am

Years ago, back in my FReeper days, I Photoshopped an Israeli version of the Gadsden flag.

Now I keep getting emails from wingnuts who want to know where they can buy it on a T-Shirt or a bumper sticker or a ball cap.

I know I could probably sell a bunch of these through the Zionist Mall, but I don't want to be seen as endorsing the type of events (like, a Shrieking Harpie rally) where these products would be displayed.

590 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:07:41am

OT, but I just saw this:

Macho Man Randy Savage Dies In Car Accident

No booze, and he and his wife were wearing seat belts. Apparently, he had a heart attack while driving, lost control of the car, and died when he collided with a tree.

591 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:12:36am
592 McSpiff  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:13:37am

re: #589 Alouette

Years ago, back in my FReeper days, I Photoshopped an Israeli version of the Gadsden flag.

Now I keep getting emails from wingnuts who want to know where they can buy it on a T-Shirt or a bumper sticker or a ball cap.

I know I could probably sell a bunch of these through the Zionist Mall, but I don't want to be seen as endorsing the type of events (like, a Shrieking Harpie rally) where these products would be displayed.

Respond to all inquiries in Hebrew. Should eliminate a fair chunk.

593 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:15:40am

re: #590 Lidane

GMTA #581

594 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:17:32am

re: #585 laZardo

Yay verily is the rapture supposed to have been upon me about 58 minutes ago. :P

Is it past 1800 hrs on the 21st, there?

595 Winny Spencer  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:18:45am

re: #594 Decatur Deb

Is it past 1800 hrs on the 21st, there?

Good point. Don't breathe that sigh of relief just yet.

596 tomg51spence  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:19:09am

I booked a table at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe for tomorrow at 5:50.

598 Decatur Deb  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:19:46am

re: #596 tomg51spence

I booked a table at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe for tomorrow at 5:50.

Try the sirloin.

599 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:19:49am

re: #594 Decatur Deb

Is it past 1800 hrs on the 21st, there?

Fucking UTC.

600 Winny Spencer  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:19:54am
601 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:20:33am

re: #597 Varek Raith

No Newt Moment For Jon Huntsman: He’s 100% Behind Ending Medicare
D'OH!

He also came out against military action in Afghanistan and Libya this morning too. His presidential hopes are DOA.

602 Winny Spencer  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:22:24am

So why on earth is Huntsman a better candidate than Romney, apart form the Mandarin?

I can't see it, never could.

603 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:24:05am

re: #592 McSpiff

Respond to all inquiries in Hebrew. Should eliminate a fair chunk.

Eitzah tovah

604 goddamnedfrank  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:25:25am

Try again, torture supporters:

A private letter from CIA chief Leon Panetta to Senator John McCain (R-AZ) confirms that the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques put in place by the Bush administration did not reveal intelligence about Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, the courier that eventually led the U.S. to Osama bin Laden.

The letter was obtained by The Washington Post and a CIA spokesperson confirmed its authenticity.

"Let me further point out that we first learned about the facilitator/courier’s nom de guerre from a detainee not in CIA custody in 2002," the letter stated. "It is also important to note that some detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques attempted to provide false or misleading information about the facilitator/courier. These attempts to falsify the facilitator/courier’s role were alerting."

605 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:25:36am

re: #603 Alouette

Eitzah tovah

何て?

606 McSpiff  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:27:54am

re: #603 Alouette

Eitzah tovah

Hoist with my own petard...

608 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:31:27am

re: #605 Varek Raith

何て?

where's my paddle

609 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:31:58am
611 Varek Raith  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:34:25am

re: #610 prairiefire

That's why she juts out her bottom jaw all the time. She's a feuding fired up hillbilly. She needs a corncob pipe.

Nah, she just needs some Tums.

612 Simply Sarah  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:34:31am

re: #610 prairiefire

That's why she juts out her bottom jaw all the time. She's a feuding fired up hillbilly. She needs a corncob pipe.

See, now I'm just picturing her as Frosty, instead.

613 prairiefire  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:42:48am

Cool website, gaygamer.net:[Link: gaygamer.net...]

614 Daniel Ballard  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:45:15am

Here we go again, again.
Patriot Act unchanged despite real necessities...

Excerpt
The expiring measures originally were set to sunset in December 2009. Congress extended the deadline until the end of February 2010 in a bid to work out compromise legislation. When that failed, lawmakers punted for a year. Then in February of this year, Congress declared that those measures would expire at the end of this month unless new action was taken.

Now lawmakers are long punting, and extending the provisions to June 1, 2015.

615 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:46:27am

re: #582 Romantic Heretic

I got one of the 21" iMacs a couple of weeks ago. Nice machine.

Biggest problem is the Magic Mouse consumes batteries at a ridiculous rate. I have to get the battery charger and battery bundle. It'll pay for itself in about three months.

I use a trackball mouse that also consumes batteries at a prodigious rate, my question is why are all the trackballs by Logitech wireless? Who cares if a trackball has a wire or not, you aren't moving the thing at all and the receivers range is only about six feet. It isn't like you could be on the other side of the room using it with a big screen or anything.

616 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:46:46am

re: #610 prairiefire

That's why she juts out her bottom jaw all the time. She's a feuding fired up hillbilly. She needs a corncob pipe.

Ah has spoken!

617 Lidane  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:46:57am

re: #610 prairiefire

Please let her run, and let her get the nomination. The resulting national defeat for the GOP would be the greatest thing to ever happen to the Republican party. They desperately need to marginalize the loons and whackjobs once and for all.

618 Daniel Ballard  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:48:05am

Hey Stanley Sea, I finally saw your nice comment on yesterdays thread-Thanks

619 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:49:19am

re: #585 laZardo

Yay verily is the rapture supposed to have been upon me about 58 minutes ago. :P

Still 28 hours and 11 minutes to go here, having sat through earthquakes in Alaska numerous times it will be interesting to see if they are any different in Florida.

///

620 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:50:17am

re: #617 Lidane

That's assuming that they don't take the loss to mean that they need to get even more extreme to win. Instead of marginalizing the socons and right wing libertarians like Luap Nor, these groups are the engaged heart of the GOP at present.

621 laZardo  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:52:42am

re: #619 ausador

Still 28 hours and 11 minutes to go here, having sat through earthquakes in Alaska numerous times it will be interesting to see if they are any different in Florida.

///

I lived through Loma Prieta (even though I was barely 2). I should be fine!

///

622 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:56:28am

Meeting between Obama and Netanyahu concludes

The meeting between Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and US President Barack Obama concluded Friday close to 1:45 p.m. local time.

The two leaders met at the White House following rising tension between the US and Jerusalem over Obama's address on the Middle East, in which the US president said Israel should return to the 1967 borders in an effort to make a peace deal with the Palestinians.

623 lawhawk  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:57:04am

re: #621 laZardo

I'm waiting for the Great Big ppppfffffffttttt. *fizzle* with bated breath.

624 Vicious Babushka  Fri, May 20, 2011 10:57:41am

re: #622 NJDhockeyfan

Meeting between Obama and Netanyahu concludes

the US president said Israel should return to the 1967 borders

The media fail that just won't go away.

625 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 11:01:14am

re: #624 Alouette

The media fail that just won't go away.

Uhhh...is this about today's meeting or yesterday's speech?

(Reuters) - President Barack Obama met Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday as a new U.S. push for Middle East peace opened one of the deepest divides in years in relations between the United States and close ally Israel.

Netanyahu arrived at the White House a day after Obama endorsed a long-standing Palestinian demand on the borders of its future state, drawing an angry response from Israel that he was out of the touch with the reality of the long-running conflict.

Obama embraced the Palestinian view that the state they seek in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip should largely be drawn along lines that existed before the 1967 war in which Israel captured those territories and East Jerusalem.

The right-wing Netanyahu, who has had strained relations with Obama, reacted by saying that this could leave Israel with borders that were "indefensible."

626 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 20, 2011 11:05:25am

Gotta go...later.

627 sattv4u2  Fri, May 20, 2011 11:10:24am

Tea Leoni

(for no particular reason other than theres a movie on now with her in it)

628 theheat  Fri, May 20, 2011 11:10:50am

re: #610 prairiefire

With her incoherent runon sentences, I don't think the thoughts sound any better in her head before they come out her mouth. Nothing's been lost in translation. She really is that much of a hamfisted clueless battle ax.

629 Haikugoalie  Sat, May 21, 2011 8:36:53am

The force of my form
is a meme of words and thought
that Charles posts with it

If the lines of peace
in the big speech were post-war
Jews wouldn't be karping

Obama changed things
in a way state department
officials liked lots

This cannot be good
in the current situation
Obama blundered


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