Not Brand Echh #1: Who Says a Comic Book Has to Be Good?

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Marvel’s “Not Brand Echh” was a short-lived (13 issues) attempt at humor in the style of Mad Magazine, mostly poking fun at their own superhero characters, but occasionally taking shots at their DC rivals as well. The Lizard Collection’s copy of the first issue (published in August 1967) isn’t in tip-top condition, but then, neither was the comedy.

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1 darthstar  Sun, May 22, 2011 6:52:37pm

Rutger Hauer just punched some guys eyes out with his thumbs…Blade Runner - director’s cut. First time I’ve seen this movie in probably 20 years…still good.

2 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 6:53:04pm

the cat’s pretty freaked out…poor kitty

3 darthstar  Sun, May 22, 2011 6:55:49pm

re: #2 albusteve

the cat’s pretty freaked out…poor kitty

I’d be freaked too if I was betting on you getting your ass raptured out of my life yesterday.

Seriously, though…Happy Sunday. Hope you had a good weekend.

4 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 6:57:18pm

re: #3 darthstar

I’d be freaked too if I was betting on you getting your ass raptured out of my life yesterday.

Seriously, though…Happy Sunday. Hope you had a good weekend.

I did…and to you as well

5 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 6:57:52pm

re: #1 darthstar

Rutger Hauer just punched some guys eyes out with his thumbs…Blade Runner - director’s cut. First time I’ve seen this movie in probably 20 years…still good.

Trick question: What movie was set as being in the same universe as Blade Runner?

6 darthstar  Sun, May 22, 2011 6:59:58pm

Imagine having a bionic hand…never get a sore wrist again! //

[Link: singularityhub.com…]

7 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:02:08pm

re: #6 darthstar

was actually just talking about singularity with WUB (per your link if not the content)

8 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:02:19pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trick question: What movie was set as being in the same universe as Blade Runner?

Soldier

9 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:02:25pm

re: #6 darthstar

Imagine having a bionic hand…never get a sore wrist again! //

[Link: singularityhub.com…]

I wonder how much essence he lost in the process…

(Sorry have been listening to brother play Shadowrun over Skype all night)

10 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:02:28pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trick question: What movie was set as being in the same universe as Blade Runner?

Soldier, with “The battles of Tannhauser Gate and Shoulder of Orion” shown in his service record for a fleeting second and one of the spinner cars being amongst the wreckage on the garbage heap.

11 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:04:58pm

Bulls tied the game at 51!

12 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:07:08pm

re: #7 windsagio

Also, I love that that site has both a ‘the government is spying on you with facebook’ story AND ‘Friend us on Facebook!’

13 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:07:14pm

re: #9 jamesfirecat

I wonder how much essence he lost in the process…

(Sorry have been listening to brother play Shadowrun over Skype all night)

Gonna develop Cyber-psychosis eventually.

(Ex-cyberpunk player)

14 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:09:35pm

If you’d like to feel sad (and old), consider that nearly all of “The Usual Gang of Idiots” are dead.

Dave Berg, re: #1 darthstar

Rutger Hauer just punched some guys eyes out with his thumbs…Blade Runner - director’s cut. First time I’ve seen this movie in probably 20 years…still good.

It’s too bad she won’t live. But then again, who does?

15 laZardo  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:13:28pm

One could probably revive the brand with a selection of the worst fanfiction out there.

16 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:16:49pm

the Heat are warming up again..a hard, sloppy, clunker game to watch

17 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:17:30pm

re: #14 negativ

If you’d like to feel sad (and old), consider that nearly all of “The Usual Gang of Idiots” are dead.

Dave Berg,

It’s too bad she won’t live. But then again, who does?

Jesus…get with it

18 darthstar  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:23:09pm

It’s too bad she won’t live. But then again, who does?

Okay…no fair quoting the same line I’m hearing in Blade Runner as it’s being said.

19 darthstar  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:23:39pm

re: #18 darthstar

It’s too bad she won’t live. But then again, who does?

Okay…no fair quoting the same line I’m hearing in Blade Runner as it’s being said.

Hm…that was supposed to be a response to negativ

20 darthstar  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:25:11pm

Okay…time to make dinner for the missus…Sole Meuniere with steamed artichokes and roasted leeks.

21 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:28:05pm

re: #20 darthstar

Image: interessting.jpg

22 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:28:16pm

MAD ran some pretty good super-hero parodies back in the day. One of my favorites, possibly because the title tickled my juvenile word sense, was called Mag-nut, Robot Biter, based on the long-running Magnus, Robot Fighter , initially from Gold Key comics.

23 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:31:28pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel

MAD ran some pretty good super-hero parodies back in the day. One of my favorites, possibly because the title tickled my juvenile word sense, was called Mag-nut, Robot Biter, based on the long-running Magnus, Robot Fighter , initially from Gold Key comics.

wow…Japan, home to 50b people

24 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:34:12pm

damn, I hope the bulls can steal one down in Miami…they look tired

25 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:41:37pm

Ugh. The 60 Minutes segment on Lance Armstrong was really sad.

26 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:44:00pm

re: #25 Charles

Ugh. The 60 Minutes segment on Lance Armstrong was really sad.

Sad as in what it sad was sad, or sad as in bad reporting?

27 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:44:28pm

re: #25 Charles

Ugh. The 60 Minutes segment on Lance Armstrong was really sad.

kindof reminds me how baseball had to go through their drug hell…It’s sad but true

28 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:47:14pm

Bulls are done…shitty game

29 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:47:23pm

re: #26 EmmmieG

Sad as in what it sad was sad, or sad as in bad reporting?

Sad as in his reputation is being destroyed, and if the allegations are true, he’s been a liar and a criminal for years.

30 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:49:37pm

re: #27 HoosierHoops

kindof reminds me how baseball had to go through their drug hell…It’s sad but true

the game of the asterix

31 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:50:50pm

Mad publisher William M. Gaines was quite a character in his own right. I had long heard the story of him taking the usual gang of idiots to Haiti and paying an unannounced visit to the country’s only Mad subscriber after the latter failed to renew on time. I had suspected an urban legend, but it turns out to be true, though the gang had gone to Haiti on vacation and not specifically to confront the subscriber:
Gaines was devoted to his staff, and fostered an environment of humor and loyalty. This he accomplished through various means, notably the “Mad trips.” Each year, Gaines would pay for the magazine’s staff and its steadiest contributors to fly to an international locale. The first vacation, to Haiti, set the tone. Discovering that Mad had a grand total of one Haitian subscriber, Gaines arranged to have the group driven to the person’s house. There, surrounded by the magazine’s editors, artists and writers, Gaines formally presented the bewildered subscriber with a renewal card.

32 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:50:56pm

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sad as in his reputation is being destroyed, and if the allegations are true, he’s been a liar and a criminal for years.

During the 80’s all basketball players were probably doing Coke..
The NFL was doing HGH during the 90’s and beyond..
EPO’s have been done for years in every sport

33 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:51:56pm

re: #30 albusteve

the game of the asterix

Barry Bonds! 73 Homeruns and a huge head

34 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:52:29pm

Herman Cain criticizes Obama on Palestine, then fumbles over Right of Return question.

“Where do you stand on the right of return?” asked Wallace.

“The right of return? [pause] The right of return?” asked Cain.

Wallace then offered more information, “The Palestinian right of return.”

“I think it should be negotiated,” Cain replied.

“Do you think the refugees, the people that were kicked out of the land in 1948 should be able to have any right to return to Israeli land?” Wallace further probed.

“Yes, but not under Palestinian conditions,” said Cain. “Yes, they should have the right to come back if that is a decision that Israel wants to make.”

“It’s up to Israel to determine things they want to accept,” he added. “I don’t think they have a problem with people returning. The issue is that there are some things they simply don’t want to give in on.”

35 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:55:00pm

Bulls are shooting .455 for the game….pitiful

36 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:57:03pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Herman Cain criticizes Obama on Palestine, then fumbles over Right of Return question.

I missed the fumble…how about a replay?

37 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:58:12pm

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Herman Cain criticizes Obama on Palestine, then fumbles over Right of Return question.

I watched that this morning. Definitely a deer in the headlight moment.

38 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 7:59:55pm

re: #36 albusteve

I missed the fumble…how about a replay?

1) Not understanding the right of return was.

2) Saying the Israelis don’t think its a problem.

39 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:00:44pm

re: #37 blueraven

I watched that this morning. Definitely a deer in the headlight moment.

doesn’t come through in the print version….not a real good bashable moment

40 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:00:56pm

re: #32 HoosierHoops

During the 80’s all basketball players were probably doing Coke..
The NFL was doing HGH during the 90’s and beyond..
EPO’s have been done for years in every sport

It creates the simple fact that you dope, or you don’t win.

I remember, years ago, a kid from my graduating class suddenly went from being just a kid on the football team to the star.

I always wondered about that. Usually, the stars stayed pretty consistent.

41 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:00:56pm

BBC update on Pakistan base attack

-Military now admits 11 of their personnel killed.
-At least two P-3 Orions confirmed destroyed
-Taliban claims responsibility to “avenge the martyrdom of Osama bin Laden”
-Gunfire continuing eight hours into the incident
-Chinese military personnel taken hostage.

42 ProBosniaLiberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:01:07pm

Off topic, but 2 dozen dead in Joplin :(

This year has been Tornado Hell. In the past, one would only have one bloody tornado a year. We had 3-4 in the last Outbreak in April. And one now.

43 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:01:47pm

re: #37 blueraven

I watched that this morning. Definitely a deer in the headlight moment.

Yes I saw it…He needs a staff or something..He was speechless there for a minute..That’s not bothered me..He refused to answer other foreign policy issues until he gets elected and has military advice..
Sorry pal…It doesn’t work that way

44 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:03:20pm

re: #9 jamesfirecat

I wonder how much essence he lost in the process…

(Sorry have been listening to brother play Shadowrun over Skype all night)

Nothing wrong with that. If it helps Catalyst Game Labs, its good.

(Catalyst also puts out Battletech, so I have an indirect interest in Shadowrun doing well.)

45 b_sharp  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:03:40pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trick question: What movie was set as being in the same universe as Blade Runner?

Free My Willie.

46 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:03:43pm

re: #39 albusteve

doesn’t come through in the print version…not a real good bashable moment

His answer that he didn’t think the Israelis would have a problem with the refugees, is way off base. But yes, the video is more telling.

47 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:04:33pm

re: #42 ProLifeLiberal

Off topic, but 2 dozen dead in Joplin :(

This year has been Tornado Hell. In the past, one would only have one bloody tornado a year. We had 3-4 in the last Outbreak in April. And one now.

I stayed in Joplin traveling here.. Are you still on Campus?
Kind regards and good luck brother

48 Political Atheist  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:04:37pm

Sunday night photography…

Image: _MG_0149.jpg

49 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:05:01pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel

BBC update on Pakistan base attack

-Military now admits 11 of their personnel killed.
-At least two P-3 Orions confirmed destroyed
-Taliban claims responsibility to “avenge the martyrdom of Osama bin Laden”
-Gunfire continuing eight hours into the incident
-Chinese military personnel taken hostage.

That’s bad for Pakistan, especially the Orions. Each one is a multi-million dollar aircraft and their loss will give India greater ability to use its subs to scout Pakistan’s coast.

50 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:05:45pm

re: #43 HoosierHoops

Yes I saw it…He needs a staff or something..He was speechless there for a minute..That’s not bothered me..He refused to answer other foreign policy issues until he gets elected and has military advice..
Sorry pal…It doesn’t work that way

so the pizza guy can’t answer questions?…did you expect anything different?…
when you put these doofi in the limelight, few can deliver…no big deal anymore

51 ProBosniaLiberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:06:06pm

Apparently, North Sudan has invaded Abyei. This area is supposed to have a referendum on joining South Sudan.

South Sudan calls this a declaration of war.

52 ProBosniaLiberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:06:28pm

re: #47 HoosierHoops

No, I get back in Mid-April.

53 ProBosniaLiberal  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:07:01pm

re: #52 ProLifeLiberal

Gah, I mean Mid-August.

54 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:07:27pm

re: #43 HoosierHoops

Yes I saw it…He needs a staff or something..He was speechless there for a minute..That’s not bothered me..He refused to answer other foreign policy issues until he gets elected and has military advice..
Sorry pal…It doesn’t work that way

Yeah, he can’t answer questions on foreign policy, but I’m sure he’ll have little problem joining the rest of the class in beating Obama over the head with what they consider to be “bad” policy.

55 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:10:02pm

re: #1 darthstar

Rutger Hauer just punched some guys eyes out with his thumbs…Blade Runner - director’s cut. First time I’ve seen this movie in probably 20 years…still good.

That movie’s got one of the saddest scene ever in it. Get teary every time.

Youtube Video
56 jamesfirecat  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:10:04pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Nothing wrong with that. If it helps Catalyst Game Labs, its good.

(Catalyst also puts out Battletech, so I have an indirect interest in Shadowrun doing well.)

Eh it sort of was, in that the adventure probably should have been done around 5:00/4:40 but my brother wasn’t going to be willing to settle for the ending in the book so he needed to take a one man vision quest thingy in order to retrieve the true name of an evil free sprite that was holding a would be technomancer hostage by controlling her body so that he could then bind that free sprite to serve him, tell him to instead possess a bottle, and then break that bottle into a million billion little pieces.

57 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:10:16pm

re: #50 albusteve

so the pizza guy can’t answer questions?…did you expect anything different?…
when you put these doofi in the limelight, few can deliver…no big deal anymore

It is a big deal to me. If they are challenging the President for his job, they should know basics about FP. I am no genius on Israel/Palestine issues but even I knew that question.

58 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:10:24pm

From Dragonfire1981, last post, last thread:

(It seems to me, and perhaps I’m wrong here, that one’s religious beliefs and ones duties as a civil servant would routinely clash in an ideal world.

For example, let’s say the majority of your constituents are in favor of Gay marriage but you are not because of your religious beliefs. In my opinion, the right thing would be to respect the wishes of the majority of the people and legalize gay marriage, since you have (supposedly) been elected to serve the public interest.

Having said that, if you do believe there is a God who is telling you that homosexuality is wrong than by passing legislation that legalizes gay marriage you are going against God’s supposed will, which is something no Christian wants to do. So it boils down to: Which interests come first, the people or yours?

But of course there’s also the grey areas of the true meaning of scriptures that argue that homosexuality is sinful and whether or not they have been accurately translated and so forth.

It’s also obvious that the current state of U.S. politics is VERY far from ideal.

Still though, an interesting moral conflict to ponder.)

No, sir or madam. It has nothing to do with either constituent desires or morality. It has to do with the Oath. And the Oath is pretty basic.

You swear to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic.

That means if your constituents believe that the Constitution does not give gay American citizens equal protection under the law, including access to civil (not religious) marriage, you must educate your constituents as to what the Equal Protection Clause means, including (especially!) the fact that they don’t have the option to pick and choose about who benefits.

It’s not necessarily about what your constituents *believe*, nor about your personal morality. It is always and forever about the Constitution.

Gods bless Barbara Jordan.

59 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:11:29pm

re: #57 blueraven

It is a big deal to me. If they are challenging the President for his job, they should know basics about FP. I am no genius on Israel/Palestine issues but even I knew that question.

don’t fret, he’s going exactly nowhere

60 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:15:39pm

re: #59 albusteve

don’t fret, he’s going exactly nowhere

Not gonna fret, just hope we see some better candidates. Gingrich already imploded. Bachman and Palin may see an opening now that Huckabee is out. I really would like to see the level of debate increase.

61 b_sharp  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:16:17pm

re: #59 albusteve

don’t fret, he’s going exactly nowhere

I’ve been there. I found it had nothing for me.

62 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:16:39pm

re: #42 ProLifeLiberal

Off topic, but 2 dozen dead in Joplin :(

This year has been Tornado Hell. In the past, one would only have one bloody tornado a year. We had 3-4 in the last Outbreak in April. And one now.

Shit shit shit. Their Trauma Unit was destroyed. That hospital is unusable:

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

63 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:18:03pm

re: #59 albusteve

don’t fret, he’s going exactly nowhere

300 million people in the USA and lucky to find 5 Conservatives that make sense? They all jumped off the cliff…That’s why I became a Dem Nov 1st 2010…I’m now a Dem and proud of it…

64 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:18:08pm

re: #60 blueraven

Not gonna fret, just hope we see some better candidates. Gingrich already imploded. Bachman and Palin may see an opening now that Huckabee is out. I really would like to see the level of debate increase.

Neither of those two is actually capable of debate. All they can do is recite their talking points and give set answers.

65 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:19:22pm

re: #60 blueraven

Not gonna fret, just hope we see some better candidates. Gingrich already imploded. Bachman and Palin may see an opening now that Huckabee is out. I really would like to see the level of debate increase.

I know all that, not really interested…but you said he was a big deal to you and I wonder why?…America is not ready for a pizza czar for POTUS…trust me and relax

66 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:19:32pm

Joplin, Mo: post tornado panorama, from @BlogsofWar:
[Link: twitpic.com…]

67 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:20:09pm

re: #63 HoosierHoops

300 million people in the USA and lucky to find 5 Conservatives that make sense? They all jumped off the cliff…That’s why I became a Dem Nov 1st 2010…I’m now a Dem and proud of it…

I was a Boy Scout so I know how you feel

68 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:21:56pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

That’s bad for Pakistan, especially the Orions. Each one is a multi-million dollar aircraft and their loss will give India greater ability to use its subs to scout Pakistan’s coast.

Only 6 P-3s were supplied to Pakistan: 3 in 1996, one of which crashed in 1999, and 3 more delivered in 2009-10. Tonight’s losses would reduce the force to just 3 aircraft. There are plans for 4 more.

69 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:22:12pm

re: #60 blueraven

Not gonna fret, just hope we see some better candidates. Gingrich already imploded. Bachman and Palin may see an opening now that Huckabee is out. I really would like to see the level of debate increase.

It actually distresses me somewhat that the GOP continues to have absolutely no candidates who stand a decent chance of winning their party primaries and would present a challenge to an Obama second term. All the “RINOs” have either been run out of the party on a rail, decided to sit this election out, or (in the case of Romney) are playing to the TPers in the hopes that they can convince them that they’re every bit as loony.

How can you have a functional two-party government when one party is coasting along and the other is imploding? At this rate, I’m going to find myself voting for Obama come next November, not because I think he’s the better candidate, but because I’m scared shitless of letting the GOP’s candidate take the Big Chair.

70 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:23:48pm

re: #68 Shiplord Kirel

Only 6 P-3s were supplied to Pakistan: 3 in 1996, one of which crashed in 1999, and 3 more delivered in 2009-10. Tonight’s losses would reduce the force to just 3 aircraft. There are plans for 4 more.

We may need to accelerate their delivery. The P-3 also acts as an anti-pirate patrol plane.

71 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:24:41pm

re: #66 jaunte

Joplin:

A massive tornado has devastated Joplin tonight. The death toll is 24, and likely to climb higher. A Red Cross official has estimated 75% of the city has been damaged or destroyed.
video: [Link: wordsofascribe.blogspot.com…]
72 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:25:00pm

re: #68 Shiplord Kirel

Only 6 P-3s were supplied to Pakistan: 3 in 1996, one of which crashed in 1999, and 3 more delivered in 2009-10. Tonight’s losses would reduce the force to just 3 aircraft. There are plans for 4 more.

The only problem with the BBC article is that it calls the P-3 a jet, when it is in fact a turboprop.

73 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:25:52pm

re: #68 Shiplord Kirel

Only 6 P-3s were supplied to Pakistan: 3 in 1996, one of which crashed in 1999, and 3 more delivered in 2009-10. Tonight’s losses would reduce the force to just 3 aircraft. There are plans for 4 more.

I’m getting real pissed with that whole scene over there, they have already cost us a mint and for what?, some half baked fight with the Talis and AQ?…it’s not our fight anymore…and thanks for the updates

74 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:26:14pm

re: #66 jaunte

Joplin, Mo: post tornado panorama, from @BlogsofWar:
[Link: twitpic.com…]

Trees scoured to the roots? F4-F5. Nasty, nasty juju.

Nature’s mulching lawnmower on a city scale.

75 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:26:30pm

re: #65 albusteve

I know all that, not really interested…but you said he was a big deal to you and I wonder why?…America is not ready for a pizza czar for POTUS…trust me and relax

Well if you really care, I was responding to your comment

so the pizza guy can’t answer questions?…did you expect anything different?…
when you put these doofi in the limelight, few can deliver…no big deal anymore

I assume doofi is plural…so I am not concerned with only Herman Cain, but with the quality of the candidates so far.

76 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:27:07pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

We may need to accelerate their delivery. The P-3 also acts as an anti-pirate patrol plane.

whatever….it’s just another arms deal…sell them 20 of the godamned things

77 HoosierHoops  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:28:30pm

re: #67 albusteve

I was a Boy Scout so I know how you feel

I sent Charles my Republican of the year award several years ago…I was very proud after 911…I was invited to Washington DC for the Presidents dinner… Yet when the right wing dove off the cliff from politics to science I changed direction…
This ain’t no play school…If it wasn’t true Charles would call me out…
I am very proud to change parties.. I back Charles 100%

78 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:28:31pm

re: #75 blueraven

Well if you really care, I was responding to your comment

I assume doofi is plural…so I am not concerned with only Herman Cain, but with the quality of the candidates so far.

they suck, get over it
repetition dilutes the point

79 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:28:41pm

re: #73 albusteve

I’m getting real pissed with that whole scene over there, they have already cost us a mint and for what?, some half baked fight with the Talis and AQ?…it’s not our fight anymore…and thanks for the updates

It’s because they’re sitting on a pile of nuke warheads that we’re scared shitless will fall into the hands of the Taliban or (worse) Al-Q if we cut off our support. So we’re left propping up a corrupt and ineffectual government, which is accepting our money as they dig the dagger deeper between our shoulder blades, because we fear what will happen if we walk away.

80 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:30:08pm

re: #78 albusteve

they suck, get over it
repetition dilutes the point

Relax…trust me, you will feel better.

81 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:30:58pm

re: #80 blueraven

Relax…trust me, you will feel better.

LOL!….consider it done

82 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:31:14pm

re: #74 austin_blue

Apparently right after the tornado, the looting started.

83 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:31:51pm

re: #79 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It’s because they’re sitting on a pile of nuke warheads that we’re scared shitless will fall into the hands of the Taliban or (worse) Al-Q if we cut off our support. So we’re left propping up a corrupt and ineffectual government, which is accepting our money as they dig the dagger deeper between our shoulder blades, because we fear what will happen if we walk away.

yes, common knowledge
stuff to consider

84 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:32:28pm

re: #76 albusteve

whatever…it’s just another arms deal…sell them 20 of the godamned things

Problem is, we aren’t selling these, we are giving them away with you-know-who footing the bill. India otoh is actually buying the new P-8 Poseidon for the same purpose.

85 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:33:56pm

re: #79 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It’s because they’re sitting on a pile of nuke warheads that we’re scared shitless will fall into the hands of the Taliban or (worse) Al-Q if we cut off our support. So we’re left propping up a corrupt and ineffectual government, which is accepting our money as they dig the dagger deeper between our shoulder blades, because we fear what will happen if we walk away.

And it’s not just the direct effect. A governmental collapse in Pakistan could end with nukes being launched instead of stolen. So even if we suffered no damage, Pakistan already has missiles that can hit India and China. Our economy would take a pretty big whack if Mumbai or Shanghai were nuked.

86 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:38:04pm

re: #84 Shiplord Kirel

Problem is, we aren’t selling these, we are giving them away with you-know-who footing the bill. India otoh is actually buying the new P-8 Poseidon for the same purpose.

right, and the Orion is a hell a a machine…I’m just getting very frustrated because I’m results oriented and our presence over there is spent…if they and the Afghanis want to be world pariahs then so be it…we can deal with both with black ops and from the air

87 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:40:13pm

Camping’s site is back up.

It had been down.

88 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:40:45pm

re: #86 albusteve

right, and the Orion is a hell a a machine…I’m just getting very frustrated because I’m results oriented and our presence over there is spent…if they and the Afghanis want to be world pariahs then so be it…we can deal with both with black ops and from the air

No, we can’t. Pull out and our sources of intell will dry up. We need boots on the ground for a good while yet.

89 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:41:11pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And it’s not just the direct effect. A governmental collapse in Pakistan could end with nukes being launched instead of stolen. So even if we suffered no damage, Pakistan already has missiles that can hit India and China. Our economy would take a pretty big whack if Mumbai or Shanghai were nuked.

in that event, it’s our job to wreck the nukes and don’t tell me how tough that is…we better have several plans in the works by now, or is this all going to smooth out with more money?

90 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:41:50pm

re: #84 Shiplord Kirel

Problem is, we aren’t selling these, we are giving them away with you-know-who footing the bill. India otoh is actually buying the new P-8 Poseidon for the same purpose.

Yeah, India’s in the middle of one hell of a modernization spree. They’re working themselves up to being a blue-water navy, with plans to have six aircraft carriers in service. They’ve already got one boomer undergoing sea trials, with plans for three more.

91 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:42:02pm

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

And it’s not just the direct effect. A governmental collapse in Pakistan could end with nukes being launched instead of stolen. So even if we suffered no damage, Pakistan already has missiles that can hit India and China. Our economy would take a pretty big whack if Mumbai or Shanghai were nuked.

Fuck the economy — air doesn’t respect territorial boundaries, that’s not how physics works. If Mumbai or Shanghai were nuked, everybody’s air and water and land will be irradiated.

92 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:42:06pm

re: #88 Dark_Falcon

No, we can’t. Pull out and our sources of intell will dry up. We need boots on the ground for a good while yet.

black ops is boots on the ground

93 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:42:59pm

re: #75 blueraven

This race is wide open for Palin to step in and seriously contend for the nomination. I can’t see how Romney can win the GOP nomination when he signed the prototype for Obamacare into law, and Palin far surpasses the rest of them in having a huge base of enthusiastic supporters.

94 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:43:27pm

re: #82 jaunte

Apparently right after the tornado, the looting started.

I’ll wait on confirmation of that. Always something vaguely racial about these “sightings”

95 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:44:51pm

re: #87 ozbloke

Camping’s site is back up.

It had been down.

Oops!
Seems they renamed an old home page.

96 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:44:57pm

I can’t remember where I found this; if it was here and I’m rehashing, thanks to whoever posted it first.

Youtube Video
97 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:45:46pm

re: #93 aagcobb

This race is wide open for Palin to step in and seriously contend for the nomination. I can’t see how Romney can win the GOP nomination when he signed the prototype for Obamacare into law, and Palin far surpasses the rest of them in having a huge base of enthusiastic supporters.

The Palin “mystique” fades away as soon as she starts getting asked non-scripted questions. Put her on the same stage as the rest of the yahoos and even Ron Paul would seem more on the ball than she. She might be able to win the nomination on star power alone, but her unfavorable poll numbers with independents and conservatives would assure that Obama could phone in his campaign.

98 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:47:04pm

P-8 Poseidon
This is the P-3’s LONG-awaited replacement. The sale of 12 of these to India for delivery in 2013 is the largest US arms deal yet with that country.
Compared with the P-3, the P-8 has considerably better flight performance and a more flexible weapons capability. Though intended for maritime patrol and ASW, it would have potential for long range overland operations under extreme circumstances (ie nuclear strike).
P-8 Poseidon(side view)

99 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:48:15pm

re: #97 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I would hope you are right. Her supporters seem completely unfazed by her shallowness. The fact that half-governor would immediately be a frontrunner for the nomination if she entered the race shows the pathetic state of the current GOP.

100 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:48:45pm

re: #94 austin_blue

I’ll wait on confirmation of that. Always something vaguely racial about these “sightings”

Google News gets nothing with Joplin looting.

101 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:49:31pm

re: #93 aagcobb

This race is wide open for Palin to step in and seriously contend for the nomination. I can’t see how Romney can win the GOP nomination when he signed the prototype for Obamacare into law, and Palin far surpasses the rest of them in having a huge base of enthusiastic supporters.

Really? Sarah? The Wasilla Hillbilly? The Sultana of Ill-read Americans? The Queen of I Don’t Know Geography? The Dame of History Is What I say it Is? The Duchess of Quitters?

That one? Wide open?

Suggestion: If you want to improve your political acumen, I would suggest licking a dog’s ass until it bleeds.

102 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:49:39pm

re: #94 austin_blue

I’m getting it from this timeline; nothing officially confirmed:
[Link: www.hamwx.com…]

103 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:52:11pm

re: #102 jaunte

I’m getting it from this timeline; nothing officially confirmed:
[Link: www.hamwx.com…]

Looks like a responsible website, but lots of confusion (of course).

104 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:53:03pm

re: #102 jaunte

I’m getting it from this timeline; nothing officially confirmed:
[Link: www.hamwx.com…]

the most god awful thunderstorm from hell I ever experienced was in central MO…so loud and intense and violent that you started rethinking stuff on the fly…and I’ve been around some

105 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:53:20pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

That site says the ‘75% destruction’ of Joplin is a false rumor.

106 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:53:57pm

re: #102 jaunte

I’m getting it from this timeline; nothing officially confirmed:
[Link: www.hamwx.com…]

That’s why I suggest careful, careful…

No doubt things are fucked up, but random (passive- Of course them n******s will loot) racially charged accusations do no good. Let’s all take a breath.

107 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:54:21pm

re: #101 austin_blue

That’s a disgusting comment, and new polling shows Palin only 2 points behind Romney. She knows how to get the base excited.

108 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:54:40pm

re: #101 austin_blue

huh?

109 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:54:57pm

re: #99 aagcobb

I would hope you are right. Her supporters seem completely unfazed by her shallowness. The fact that half-governor would immediately be a frontrunner for the nomination if she entered the race shows the pathetic state of the current GOP.

She would be the “front-runner” right up until the debates began. Then, like Dean, she’d quickly reveal herself as totally in over her head. I’d be surprised if she placed higher than third in Iowa.

110 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:54:57pm

re: #104 albusteve

I’m thinking about buying my in-laws one of these soon:
[Link: www.stormsaferoom.com…]

111 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:55:32pm

re: #106 austin_blue

Sure; not at all my intention.

112 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:56:48pm

re: #110 jaunte

I’m thinking about buying my in-laws one of these soon:
[Link: www.stormsaferoom.com…]

no kidding…do it

113 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:58:00pm

re: #107 aagcobb

That’s a disgusting comment, and new polling shows Palin only 2 points behind Romney. She knows how to get the base excited.

Sorry dude, but you are a merely a useful idiot for the Right. Sarah has as much chance of being elected President as I do of being elected the Best Geologist In The Universe.

114 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:58:13pm

re: #109 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I don’t know, the socons in Iowa usually dominate their caucuses, and with Huck out, who would they vote for? Certainly not Romney. If she got in the race now and started living in Iowa, I wouldn’t be surprised if she won it.

115 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:59:01pm

re: #114 aagcobb

I don’t know, the socons in Iowa usually dominate their caucuses, and with Huck out, who would they vote for? Certainly not Romney. If she got in the race now and started living in Iowa, I wouldn’t be surprised if she won it.

oh please…are you in for a surprise

116 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:59:04pm

re: #108 blueraven

huh?

wha? you think sarah’s viable? huh?

117 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:59:19pm

re: #113 austin_blue

I didn’t say she had a chance of being elected President; she has a solid chance at being nominated.

118 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 8:59:26pm

re: #110 jaunte

I’m thinking about buying my in-laws one of these soon:
[Link: www.stormsaferoom.com…]

Does it lock from the inside or the outside?

119 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:00:13pm

re: #115 albusteve

Surprise me then. Who do you think will do well in Iowa?

120 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:01:30pm

re: #116 austin_blue

wha? you think sarah’s viable? huh?

Perhaps a primary, not for President, or doubtful to get the nomination. That’s beside the point. Your comment was rude and crude for no good reason.

121 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:01:33pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

Does it lock from the inside or the outside?

and make sure you have your cordless Sawzall to cut your way out…I was deep in back in the day…no tornado was going to defeat me

122 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:01:38pm

re: #117 aagcobb

I didn’t say she had a chance of being elected President; she has a solid chance at being nominated.

If she wins Iowa, and maybe South Carolina, Nicole Wallace and a bunch of others from the McCain campaign are going to start spilling.

They’re terrified of the idea of her getting her hands on the nukes.

123 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:02:19pm

re: #122 sagehen

As would any sane person.

124 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:02:39pm

re: #91 sagehen

Fuck the economy — air doesn’t respect territorial boundaries, that’s not how physics works. If Mumbai or Shanghai were nuked, everybody’s air and water and land will be irradiated.

It wouldn’t be very bad if it was one city, though. The US itself had no major effect from test Bravo in the 1950’s and that bomb was 50 megatons. The really bad stuff would happen if multiple cites were hit. Then you start talking about enough soot to cause problems. Not so much radiation as a nuclear autumn (Pakistan doesn’t have enough nukes to cause a nuclear winter), meaning that enough soot and debris get thrown up to lower temperatures across the globe. Not enough so people freeze, and in the US there wouldn’t be starvation. But there might need to be rationing and since we’d have to cease sending out food aid to poor nations, qwuite a few places in Africa might well have mass die-offs.

125 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:02:57pm

re: #117 aagcobb

I didn’t say she had a chance of being elected President; she has a solid chance at being nominated.

Then you’re doubly dumb for celebrating a losing candidacy! Neither will happen. Embrace ta stupid, dear human! It is yours to hold dear!

126 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:03:57pm

re: #119 aagcobb

Surprise me then. Who do you think will do well in Iowa?

I think you miss the point…Palin will flitter here and there following her paycheck…she’s out of politics, she’s a loser and she knows it…she is just bright enough to know that BO will blow her away and then what about the money?…she’s dead, Jim

127 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:04:15pm

re: #125 austin_blue

What makes you think I’m celebrating Palin? Did tyou not see I said it shows what a pathetic state the GOP is in that she could be there nominee?

128 Political Atheist  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:04:39pm

Just going through the photographs from todays trip up the mountain. Found this on Dragon_Lady’s camera. I just cropped it and put in her copyright.
1/3000th of a second to freeze the hummingbirds wings.
Image: IMG_0723.jpg

129 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:06:23pm

I would totally back a rotating primary system. I’m getting tired of two or three states picking our nominees for us. Let everyone have a turn.

130 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:07:02pm

re: #126 albusteve

I have been expecting her not to enter the race. But the field is wide open for her, and she has a huge fan base who believe in her.

131 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:08:12pm

re: #126 albusteve

I think you miss the point…Palin will flitter here and there following her paycheck…she’s out of politics, she’s a loser and she knows it…she is just bright enough to know that BO will blow her away and then what about the money?…she’s dead, Jim

One of the political blogs suggested she is being pushed into a banzai attack, with little hope of winning, to keep the TP enthusiasm flowing for the down-ticket state and congressional candidates. It’s a bit conspiratorial.

132 jaunte  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:09:02pm

Check from Joplin, MO found 40 miles away in Mount Vernon, MO
[Link: twitpic.com…]

133 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:09:13pm

re: #120 blueraven

Perhaps a primary, not for President, or doubtful to get the nomination. That’s beside the point. Your comment was rude and crude for no good reason.

I think every useful idiot should be forced to lick a dog’s ass until it bleeds. Maybe they’ll learn a thing or two.

It’s also my favorite line from William Gibson’s ouevre. So pthbpthbpthb. Suck it up.re: #127 aagcobb

What makes you think I’m celebrating Palin? Did tyou not see I said it shows what a pathetic state the GOP is in that she could be there nominee?

Crawfishing!

134 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:10:16pm

re: #114 aagcobb

I don’t know, the socons in Iowa usually dominate their caucuses, and with Huck out, who would they vote for? Certainly not Romney. If she got in the race now and started living in Iowa, I wouldn’t be surprised if she won it.

Romney’s going to focus more on New Hampshire. Given how well regarded he is there and in Michigan, those are the places he uses to build momentum.

135 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:10:43pm

re: #130 aagcobb

I have been expecting her not to enter the race. But the field is wide open for her, and she has a huge fan base who believe in her.

really?…we’ll see about her fan base…my guess is that Palin wants nothing to do with the presidency…too much work involved, but think what you will

136 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:11:42pm

re: #125 austin_blue

Then you’re doubly dumb for celebrating a losing candidacy! Neither will happen. Embrace ta stupid, dear human! It is yours to hold dear!

That’s not nice, Austin. aagcobb hasn’t treated you with disrespect, you you shouldn’t treat him that way.

137 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:11:49pm

re: #133 austin_blue

I think every useful idiot should be forced to lick a dog’s ass until it bleeds. Maybe they’ll learn a thing or two.

It’s also my favorite line from William Gibson’s ouevre. So pthbpthbpthb. Suck it up.re: #127 aagcobb

Crawfishing!

You should probably put the bottle down dude. You dont get to decide who is an idiot here. But for the moment, the honor might be yours.

138 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:11:58pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

One of the political blogs suggested she is being pushed into a banzai attack, with little hope of winning, to keep the TP enthusiasm flowing for the down-ticket state and congressional candidates. It’s a bit conspiratorial.

That I could actually see, if only because I believe at this point that 2012 will be the “win big or go home” moment for the Tea Party. If they fail to win the White House, then that will be all the GOP leadership needs to finally snuff them out.

139 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:12:10pm

re: #131 Decatur Deb

One of the political blogs suggested she is being pushed into a banzai attack, with little hope of winning, to keep the TP enthusiasm flowing for the down-ticket state and congressional candidates. It’s a bit conspiratorial.

ah, martyr the sap
what does she say about that I wonder?

140 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:13:18pm

re: #139 albusteve

ah, martyr the sap
what does she say about that I wonder?

“Where do I sign?”

141 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:13:19pm

re: #139 albusteve

ah, martyr the sap
what does she say about that I wonder?

“How much is that Versace?”

142 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:13:52pm

Nite, all. Good thoughts to Joplin.

143 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:16:53pm

re: #135 albusteve

She would have to be deluded to think she could win the general election, but perhaps she thinks she could lose with honor like Goldwater and become a conservative icon.

144 blueraven  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:22:50pm

Good night all. Be safe.

145 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:24:19pm

Al Kooper, Mike Bloomfield, Dylan
Like a Rolling Stone
how does it feel?

Youtube Video
146 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:26:56pm

re: #135 albusteve

.my guess is that Palin wants nothing to do with the presidency…too much work scrutiny involved

FTFY. Caribou Barbie can only function if she doesn’t have to answer for anything. The worldwide scrutiny that every POTUS faces over every single thing they say and do would be too much for her.

147 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:27:45pm

I am truly hoping for a Pailin/Bachmann ticket. Two anti-science/anti-abortion candidates who truly believe that life begins at conception, as opposed to human death, which occurs at the lack of a functioning human brain. Sorry if I’ve been coarse this evening, but this is just a fundamental difference in what the concept of what being “human” means.

148 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:28:58pm

re: #137 blueraven

You should probably put the bottle down dude. You dont get to decide who is an idiot here. But for the moment, the honor might be yours.

Sober as a judge, and your last line is correct.

149 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:29:22pm

re: #147 austin_blue

Palin/Bachmann would be a dream come true… in so very many many ways.

150 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:29:27pm

re: #145 albusteve

He’s not the only one to do that song:

Youtube Video
151 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:30:38pm

re: #147 austin_blue

I don’t see Palin running. She makes too much money suckering all the rubes that follow her to give up her paycheck for public office. Besides, she couldn’t handle the media lens that a POTUS lives under.

152 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:32:11pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

He’s not the only one to do that song:

[Video]

there is a killer version out there, live in an arena…I’ve posted it, but clearly the Stones pin this one

153 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:32:11pm

re: #147 austin_blue

I’ll accept your apology, if that’s what it is. I agree that Palin/Bachmann could hardly be equaled as the Democrats’ dream GOP ticket. I would prefer that the GOP nominate someone I wouldn’t be terrified of winning, just in case the unthinkable happens.

154 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:32:32pm
Youtube Video
155 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:33:45pm

re: #149 windsagio

Palin/Bachmann would be a dream come true… in so very many many ways.

sure, that would be swell for the kids, who cannot be taken seriously

156 windsagio  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:35:04pm

re: #155 albusteve

I have been informed that you’re just grumpy, and totally not just trying to get an angry reaction.


I don’t buy it ><

Unfortunately I can’t stay and play, its that time of night again :p

157 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:36:00pm

re: #146 Lidane

FTFY. Caribou Barbie can only function if she doesn’t have to answer for anything. The worldwide scrutiny that every POTUS faces over every single thing they say and do would be too much for her.

That’s why I have serious doubts that she’ll ever jump into the candidate pool. She survives, nay thrives, by staying within the niche she’s found for herself, namely being paid to butcher the English language to produce little anti-Obama soundbytes for Fox News. If she ever seriously ran for the nomination, she’d be totally out of her element, looking like the village idiot when compared to the rest of the pack.

158 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:36:21pm

re: #151 Lidane

I don’t see Palin running. She makes too much money suckering all the rubes that follow her to give up her paycheck for public office. Besides, she couldn’t handle the media lens that a POTUS lives under.

I don’t disagree. I’m just hoping the Rs completely lose their shit. But they won’t. They will choose a Presidential candidate who will come through the primaries by seeming reasonable but at the same time mouthing the code words that the base wants to hear.

Political whores who, when pressed, will bloviate. They can’t back up the language the whacks want to hear, when pressed. They’ll lose the Indie crowd.

159 freetoken  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:37:42pm

I notice that Family Radio’s website now directs one away from their text page (with the countdown clock) to a Flash driven page (probably old.) One wonders how FR and Camping is going to continue. Perhaps he’ll just sell all the broadcast licenses and retire to some remote location.

160 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:38:03pm

re: #158 austin_blue

I don’t disagree. I’m just hoping the Rs completely lose their shit. But they won’t. They will choose a Presidential candidate who will come through the primaries by seeming reasonable but at the same time mouthing the code words that the base wants to hear.

Political whores who, when pressed, will bloviate. They can’t back up the language the whacks want to hear, when pressed. They’ll lose the Indie crowd.

Having either party implode is not in the nation’s interests, Austin.

161 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:38:45pm

re: #153 aagcobb

I’ll accept your apology, if that’s what it is. I agree that Palin/Bachmann could hardly be equaled as the Democrats’ dream GOP ticket. I would prefer that the GOP nominate someone I wouldn’t be terrified of winning, just in case the unthinkable happens.

My apology is an apology if you are not an anti-science human. Let’s leave it at that.

162 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:39:29pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Having either party implode is not in the nation’s interests, Austin.

just listen to these people, so full of vitriole that the shoe is on the other foot….a reverse drangement

163 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:40:49pm

re: #159 freetoken

One likely scenario is that he’ll say he received a revelation from God that their judgment day proselytizing mission was so successful that he decided to delay the rapture by X period of time so that they can save even more souls. His followers will be delirious with joy, and double down on their efforts to save humanity prior to the next judgment day.

164 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:41:38pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Having either party implode is not in the nation’s interests, Austin.

One is. I agree it’s not in the best interest of the country, but when your sane members adopt the insane line, you are imploding. That’s a QED.

165 Targetpractice  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:41:52pm

re: #163 aagcobb

One likely scenario is that he’ll say he received a revelation from God that their judgment day proselytizing mission was so successful that he decided to delay the rapture by X period of time so that they can save even more souls. His followers will be delirious with joy, and double down on their efforts to save humanity prior to the next judgment day.

And he’ll be laughing as he counts through all the money he managed to scam out of them.

166 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:42:30pm

re: #162 albusteve

just listen to these people, so full of vitriole that the shoe is on the other foot…a reverse drangement

Untrue. Austin is not deranged. He got hostile for a bit and it overwhelmed his good sense for a short time. It’s happened to you, its happened to me. It just proves he’s human.

167 austin_blue  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:47:03pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Untrue. Austin is not deranged. He got hostile for a bit and it overwhelmed his good sense for a short time. It’s happened to you, its happened to me. It just proves he’s human.

Thanks, DF. I just always liked that quote. It’s a terrific putdown. Inappropriate?

Yes.

But still:

“Go lick a dog’s ass until it bleeds.” is still brilliant.

168 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:47:46pm

re: #161 austin_blue

I have full confidence in creation scientists, AGW fraud researchers, and gay reversal healers./

I think you simply got the impression I liked Palin, when in fact I stand in amazement that anyone can listen to her and think she is qualified to lead the nation, as much of the GOP base does.

169 albusteve  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:47:51pm

re: #164 austin_blue

One is. I agree it’s not in the best interest of the country, but when your sane members adopt the insane line, you are imploding. That’s a QED.

you’re hoping for implosion…you hope for conflict and discourse just like many of the posters here…you promote partisanship, and look forward to failure…the current wreck of the GOP is not enough, you want more….you become more like them at every turn with this over the top doomsday thing…it’s AmIdol all the way and I can’t tell you how disappointing it is to have to listen to this failure shit every time I log on….few solutions, just an endless slapfest…it’s absolutely true that a total failure of one of two parties could be disasterous…but everybody loves a winner don’t they?

170 freetoken  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:48:32pm

re: #163 aagcobb

Well, Camping also put the end of the world for the non-rapture-able in only 5 months. That is, from the mythical “rapture” to the judgement of nations is from May to October. He claimed that from today onward towards the end of October we should see increasing destruction, etc.

171 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:49:01pm

re: #167 austin_blue

Thanks, DF. I just always liked that quote. It’s a terrific putdown. Inappropriate?

Yes.

But still:

“Go lick a dog’s ass until it bleeds.” is still brilliant.

It’s too sick for my taste. One man’s opinion.

172 aagcobb  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:49:49pm

re: #170 freetoken

I would assume he will have to revamp his timeline, since the saved were supposed to be spared all of that,

173 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:49:57pm

re: #158 austin_blue

They will choose a Presidential candidate who will come through the primaries by seeming reasonable but at the same time mouthing the code words that the base wants to hear.

This assumes that a candidate will run that can play that game AND excite people outside of the GOP base. So far, I haven’t seen a single candidate that fits the bill, since the entire current 2012 field is completely lackluster.

At this point, I think all the truly viable candidates will hold off until 2016. The 2012 field right now looks like a bunch of people aiming to be the Walter Mondale/Michael Dukakis of the GOP. The only people who will lose shit are the teabaggers/birthers/wingnuts should Obama win a second term.

174 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:51:58pm

re: #159 freetoken

I notice that Family Radio’s website now directs one away from their text page (with the countdown clock) to a Flash driven page (probably old.) One wonders how FR and Camping is going to continue. Perhaps he’ll just sell all the broadcast licenses and retire to some remote location.

Were you looking for this, looks like its been renamed?
[Link: www.familyradio.com…]

175 freetoken  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:53:20pm

re: #174 ozbloke

Yup, good catch. Looks like they added a “2” to the URL.

176 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:56:07pm

re: #175 freetoken

Yup, good catch. Looks like they added a “2” to the URL.

Yeah, poor bit of renaming, you would have thought they would change it to a name that wouldn’t display.

I got a laugh out of the stupidity.

177 freetoken  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:57:23pm

re: #176 ozbloke

But no one has heard from Camping, have they? Perhaps only 144,000 made it?

178 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 22, 2011 9:59:34pm

I’m fading, so I’m going to turn in. But as I do let me note that elections against an incumbent president who is not facing a primary challenge often draw second-tier candidates. It’s actually fairly hard to knock off an incumbent who has his party behind him.

179 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:00:35pm

re: #177 freetoken

But no one has heard from Camping, have they? Perhaps only 144,000 made it?

Yeah I think he was quoted in the last thread, here you go:

Harold Camping ‘bewildered,’ ‘mystified’ about failed prediction

180 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:00:53pm

Nite D_F

181 freetoken  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:01:26pm

Neat art story of the day:

Moon movie from 1902 gets 21st-century facelift

Thanks to innovative French filmmaker Georges Méliès, a pioneer of early cinema and special effects, audiences were transported across the intervening void to the moon. His 14-minute silent film, “A Trip to the Moon (Le Voyage Dans La Lune),” was arguably the “2001: Space Odyssey” of its time.

[…]

Now, rocket ahead 109 years. A restored color version of the classic film is wowing theater patrons again, beginning with this month’s Cannes Film Festival on the French Riviera.

[…]

The Youtube video from that article:

Youtube Video

(Which plays in the wrong proportion for me direct from Youtube but looks fine at the original link.)

182 freetoken  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:04:56pm

re: #179 ozbloke

From the link:

Tom Evans, a board member told ABC News on Sunday that Camping’s wife told him that the radio broadcaster has no intention of speaking or issuing a statement on Monday.

Evans said Camping’s wife described him as being “somewhat bewildered” and “mystified.”

Evans said his personal opinion is that the public is owed an apology and he wants the board to meet with Camping to meet to decide on what do next.

Camping, 89, has not been heard from since Saturday.

Aha! So it’s third hand information!! Maybe Camping is gone but Mr. Evans is making up a story to excuse why he is still here?

183 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:06:07pm

re: #182 freetoken

From the link:

Aha! So it’s third hand information!! Maybe Camping is gone but Mr. Evans is making up a story to excuse why he is still here?

Raptured ;)

184 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:16:39pm

World Nut Daily is striking out into new territory with a claim that potential REPUBLICAN presidential candidates Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio are not natural born citizens.
Now popular Republicans ‘not natural-born citizens’(Swamper re-post)

The Whirled nuts and their disciples are making up the law as they go along, claiming that both parents have to be citizens at the time of a child’s birth for the child to qualify as a “natural born citizen,” even if the birth indisputably take place in the US. This doctrine apparently originates with them, but it has plenty of support among swampers.

If the article is true, neither qualify for the presidency.

Both parents MUST be born in the USA.

If you define a natural born citizen as the framers originally meant it, then BOTH parents must be citizens AT THE TIME OF YOUR BIRTH in addition to the requirement that you must be born on American soil.

If this is so, Jindal, Rubio AND Obama are NOT natural born citizens ( yep, even with Obama’s Birth Certificate).

One of them claims parents must also be natural born, rather than naturalized, citizens:

Both parents MUST be born in the USA. Both of Obama’s parents weren’t born in the US. Both of them weren’t even citizens. Congress declared Obama to be elected president. I’d like to see Rubio run just to dare a court to rule him ineligible, and thus exposing how Congress shredded the US Constitution when they declared electoral votes for Obama to be valid.

What they really mean is that Jindal and Rubio are not white enough, in spite of their solid wingnut credentials.

185 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:20:07pm

Kirsten Dunst just won best actress at Cannes.

I think it was a sympathy prize for having to sit next to her director during that horrible press conference.

186 freetoken  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:22:09pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel

Your link has extra characters at the front and back of the URL.

Other than that… yeah, WND will do anything for money and they’re desperate to keep selling books that doubt Obama’s legality as President.

187 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:24:21pm

Now popular Republicans ‘not natural-born citizens’

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:29:10pm

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel

World Nut Daily is striking out into new territory with a claim that potential REPUBLICAN presidential candidates Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio are not natural born citizens.
Now popular Republicans ‘not natural-born citizens’(Swamper re-post)

The Whirled nuts and their disciples are making up the law as they go along, claiming that both parents have to be citizens at the time of a child’s birth for the child to qualify as a “natural born citizen,” even if the birth indisputably take place in the US. This doctrine apparently originates with them, but it has plenty of support among swampers.

One of them claims parents must also be natural born, rather than naturalized, citizens:

What they really mean is that Jindal and Rubio are not white enough, in spite of their solid wingnut credentials.

If they are correct, Andrew Jackson should never have been president.

Of course, they’re not correct.

189 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:32:21pm

Since when do both parents have to be citizens at the time of a child’s birth for someone to be a natural born citizen? That’s just blinding idiocy from the Freepers.

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:37:16pm

re: #189 Lidane

Since when do both parents have to be citizens at the time of a child’s birth for someone to be a natural born citizen? That’s just blinding idiocy from the Freepers.

Yeah, I’d like to see an actual source for that, besides just ‘the Founders would have wanted’.

191 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:37:40pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

If they are correct, Andrew Jackson should never have been president.

Of course, they’re not correct.

Jackson’s parents were born before independence, so he would be covered by the Constitutional adoption provision of the relevant clause, as would Jefferson and Buchanan, both of whom had one foreign born parent. However, two presidents whose parents were born after the adoption of the Constitution had foreign born mothers, Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Hoover.

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:40:28pm

re: #191 Shiplord Kirel

Jackson’s parents were born before independence, so he would be covered by the Constitutional adoption provision of the relevant clause, as would Jefferson and Buchanan, both of whom had one foreign born parent. However, two presidents whose parents were born after the adoption of the Constitution had foreign born mothers, Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Hoover.

Thank you for clarifying that.

(However, I feel it necessary to point out that Wilson and Hoover’s moms were both WHITE, which makes them much more American-like right there.)

///

193 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:41:37pm

re: #191 Shiplord Kirel

Jackson’s parents were born before independence, so he would be covered by the Constitutional adoption provision of the relevant clause, as would Jefferson and Buchanan, both of whom had one foreign born parent. However, two presidents whose parents were born after the adoption of the Constitution had foreign born mothers, Woodrow Wilson and Herbert Hoover.

Shiplord,

Hope you don’t mind, but I saw your tribute to your wife a week or so ago, I wanted to say something, I am in a near identical place.
I was moved to tears.

Time seems to help, but it doesn’t heal.
Just gone six years for me after a wonderful, blessed 23 years and two wonderful children.

I raise a glass, to you and your tribute, cheers.

194 Lidane  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:43:43pm

re: #190 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I’d like to see an actual source for that, besides just ‘the Founders would have wanted’.

Reading the comments at Freep, some of the folks there don’t buy it either. They’re demanding proof that both parents have to be citizens for a child to be a citizen. At least one poster so far has mentioned that his wife is an immigrant and by this new birther standard, his kids aren’t Americans. There seem to be only a handful of idiots claiming that WND is correct.

195 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:48:19pm

re: #193 ozbloke

Shiplord,

Hope you don’t mind, but I saw your tribute to your wife a week or so ago, I wanted to say something, I am in a near identical place.
I was moved to tears.

Time seems to help, but it doesn’t heal.
Just gone six years for me after a wonderful, blessed 23 years and two wonderful children.

I raise a glass, to you and your tribute, cheers.

Many thanks, Oz. You never really get over it, you just get through it. I can’t imagine the pain of losing a child, too, though. Blessings to you and yours. I’m glad if I provided some small comfort.

196 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:53:31pm

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

I’m fading, so I’m going to turn in. But as I do let me note that elections against an incumbent president who is not facing a primary challenge often draw second-tier candidates. It’s actually fairly hard to knock off an incumbent who has his party behind him.

It does seem that any “serious” GOP candidate would hold back from the 2012 campaign and start looking further toward 2016. Which would explain Gov. Christie’s reticence (topic of earlier thread) and the general dearth of electable candadtes stepping forward at this point.

197 sagehen  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:54:49pm

re: #192 SanFranciscoZionist

Thank you for clarifying that.

(However, I feel it necessary to point out that Wilson and Hoover’s moms were both WHITE, which makes them much more American-like right there.)

///

Silly SFZ. Skin tone is irrelevant, as long as they have Jesus in their hearts.

198 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 10:55:22pm

For the geeks:

Scientists set new download speed record

Scientists have set a new data speed record using just a single laser to transmit the equivalent of 700 DVDs in one second.

They say their discovery will not only help to fulfil the world’s burgeoning high-capacity bandwidth needs of cloud computing and 3D high definition TV, but provide an environmentally-friendly way of transmitting data over long distances.

Earlier this year, Japanese scientists set a world record sending 109 terabits per second using multiple lasers.

But the data rate of 26 terabits per second reported by the group of German, Swiss and UK scientists in today’s Nature Photonics is the largest line rate ever recorded using a single light source.

More…

199 yasharki  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:00:10pm

re: #198 ozbloke

How can this be applied practically tho? Sharks with freaking lazers replacing trans ocean cables? :)

200 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:04:12pm

re: #199 yasharki

How can this be applied practically tho? Sharks with freaking lazers replacing trans ocean cables? :)

And who would want to watch to seven hundred DVD’s in one second.

201 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:07:49pm

re: #199 yasharki


One word: Netflixmania!!!

202 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:08:39pm

re: #199 yasharki

How can this be applied practically tho? Sharks with freaking lazers replacing trans ocean cables? :)

It will be good for large intranets at minimum.

I don’t know the going rates for sharks, are they unionized?

203 yasharki  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:13:30pm

re: #200 ozbloke

His name is Neo!

Just read the article again, and there’s more to be made fun of: “The amount of 26 terabits per second is the amount of data that would be generated by 400 million people making a phone call… Phone calls are not generating data traffic any longer, it is animated high-resolution data traffic that dominates the internet.” Original phone infrastructure is analog by definition, so it cannot generate any “data” which could be measured by internet standards, unless it’s digitized, in which case the measurement will be entierly dependent on techniques and standards being used.

204 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:41:06pm

Fox News Chief Roger Ailes Thinks Sarah Palin Is ‘Stupid’

Ailes doesn’t speak on the record in the article, but several Republicans close to the Fox News chief describe his concerns going into an election year.

“He thinks things are going in a bad direction,” another Republican close to Ailes told [Sherman]. “Roger is worried about the future of the country. He thinks the election of Obama is a disaster. He thinks Palin is an idiot. He thinks she’s stupid. He helped boost her up. People like Sarah Palin haven’t elevated the conservative movement.”

205 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:44:46pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

“People like Sarah Palin haven’t elevated the conservative movement.”

No, but they have helped define it.

206 goddamnedfrank  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:48:01pm

Kragar,

What do you think about GW/Citadel’s moving away from metal towards resin models with “Fine Cast?” From what I’ve heard they’re cleaning up the master models, adding some “detail,” saving a ton on materials cost and jacking up the prices yet again.

207 Kragar  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:55:39pm

re: #206 goddamnedfrank

Kragar,

What do you think about GW/Citadel’s moving away from metal towards resin models with “Fine Cast?” From what I’ve heard they’re cleaning up the master models, adding some “detail,” saving a ton on materials cost and jacking up the prices yet again.

Mixed emotions.

Part of me says “GOD DAMN IT, NOT AGAIN!” On the other hand, I generally prefer working with the plastic, especially from a customization and modelling point of view. Luckily, most of my armies are fairly complete already so I don’t need much nowadays.

208 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, May 22, 2011 11:56:42pm

re: #205 ralphieboy

“People like Sarah Palin haven’t elevated the conservative movement.”

No, but they have helped define it.

Nah. They helped bury it. It’s all theocrats, busy bodies, and Big Mother shit now. What they advocate and what they vote for belies all the lip service they pay to individual liberty and individual responsibility. Folk like Palin don’t give a shit for those things when it comes to me or you. Those are just handy catch phrases to sell books and buy votes.

209 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:00:14am

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

They have helped define it into that hole.

210 goddamnedfrank  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:00:27am

re: #207 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Mixed emotions.

Part of me says “GOD DAMN IT, NOT AGAIN!” On the other hand, I generally prefer working with the plastic, especially from a customization and modelling point of view. Luckily, most of my armies are fairly complete already so I don’t need much nowadays.

I’m pretty much of the same mind. Except the only army I’ll be able to complete buying before the switch is Orks. I like the metal because it’s easy to strip and repaint, though I’ve heard Simple Green diluted 1:1 and some lifting/brushing can remove paint from resin.

211 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:05:28am

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

I’m pretty much of the same mind. Except the only army I’ll be able to complete buying before the switch is Orks. I like the metal because it’s easy to strip and repaint, though I’ve heard Simple Green diluted 1:1 and some lifting/brushing can remove paint from resin.

Yeah, simple green is the way to go with the plastics, but only if you’re using the acrylic paints. I don’t even dilute it. Got one of those disposable electric toothbrushes to scrub them. It works best when you strip them as soon as you realize you messed up. Wait too long and the paint bonds to the plastic and becomes a real bitch to remove.

212 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:10:57am

Now from a customization point of view, its infinitely easier to work with the plastic, using various bits from different sprues, no need to pin metal to support the weight, etc.

I do wish that GW would still make the support bits like they used to. Used to be able to buy metal sprues with plasma guns, melta guns, shotguns, etc.

213 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:12:20am

You see, liberals are even after our plasma and melta guns! They will never stop!!!

214 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:13:40am

re: #209 ralphieboy

They have helped define it into that hole.

Ah, I get where you’re coming from. Though I’d say they helped pervert it into that hole. “They” being the fundamentalist religious right.

If I have to be the last one to say these things, then I will be. Until I die.

It is not a “conservative value” to deny people equal rights or equal protection under the law based on their race, gender, or consenting sexual orientation.

It is not a “conservative value” to shove your religious beliefs down the throats of Americans or their children.

Those are fascist values, theocratic values, and they run right against every fiber of my conservative thinking.

215 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:19:52am

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth


These people, when they fail to impose their view of “Divine Law” on America, decide that they are exempt from the law of the land if it varies from their religious convictions.

It is sometimes an admirable thing to put one’s moral convictions ahead of the law, but if you want to follow your conscience to that extent, then you have to be prepared to face the legal consequences.

216 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:30:17am

re: #215 ralphieboy

Those politicians always have the mulligan of their deity’s forgiveness, and by extension, the forgiveness of the constituency they pander to.

They might not get re-elected, but their so called sins almost always get shoved deep down the memory hole.

217 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:34:20am

I am talking about crimes of conviction as opposed to the moral peccadilloes that make politicians (in)famous. Those are generally irrelevant to all but the morally hidebound.

218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:39:18am

re: #217 ralphieboy

I’ve been drinking quite a bit.

I am talking about crimes of conviction

Could you help me out? What do you mean by that?

219 neuralolive  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:40:09am

Mullah Omar dead?

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]

220 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:41:53am

you seem a bit sloshy.

If you feel that your moral convictions prevent you from obeying the law of the land, then that is a crime of conviction. But you should be prepared to deal with the legal and social consequences. We have the freedom to act outside the law, but cannot place ourselves outside it.

If you feel that your sex drive cannot be contained or satisfied by your vows of marriage and you have an affair with your maid/secretary/intern/masseuse, then that is a moral peccadilo.

One has very little to do with the other.

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 23, 2011 12:57:30am

re: #220 ralphieboy

you seem a bit sloshy.

Fuck yeah I am. I just said as much. No need to be a dick about it. :)

If you feel that your moral convictions prevent you from obeying the law of the land, then that is a crime of conviction. But you should be prepared to deal with the legal and social consequences. We have the freedom to act outside the law, but cannot place ourselves outside it.

Ah, I get your point. Thanks for your patience.

I dig that humans can act outside the law, but not above it. I just was too buzzed to catch your meaning the first time around. Sorry.

But I am curious, due to the way you phrase of your argument, do you believe that crimes of conviction are justifiable?

222 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 1:10:33am

I am at the other end of the scale, just putting down my second cup of coffee in the morning…

Justifiable in the moral sense. But in the legal sense, if we have people acting as if they were outside or above the law, then we wind up with dickheads like the Sovereign Citizens movement, killing policemen, or guys like the Unabomber.

I admire people like Thoreau or Rosa Parks who stood up for their convictions, but they were aware of the legal consequences. But because we have a Constitution that guarantees a fair trial, they were able to set an example that led to us improving our laws.

223 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 1:13:43am

Henry David Thoreau got arrested for refusing to pay the poll tax, which he found unjust. When his friend Longfellow asked him what he was doing in jail, his response was “What are you doing out on the street?”

In other words, Thoreau was aware of the legal consequences of his actions and willing to fact them.

224 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, May 23, 2011 1:15:41am

re: #222 ralphieboy

Okay, I think I have a better handle on where you’re coming from. Smashed as I am. Thanks for the response. G’nite bro.

225 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 1:17:29am

As long as you are willing to face the consequences…

226 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 1:37:43am

What the…I don’t know…

Why doesn’t the scientific community abandon Darwin’s failed hypotheses? Simple: The Jewish-dominated media and educational establishment are determined that, like unconditional support of Israel, Holocaust mythology, hate laws, and “civil rights” favoritism, there will be no end to the relentless force-feeding of evolution. Belief in evolution is a prerequisite for Jewish supremacism’s new-world order.

Yet anti-Zionist leadership on the right remains oblivious to the fact that evolution is the largest, ugliest, most aggressive tentacle of the Jewish revolutionary octopus. Anti-Zionists are often evolutionists, claiming that Jews evolved in a way that makes them inherently degenerate, subversive, and corruptive. They make the most Luciferian, dehumanizing fable ever invented by pseudo-science into a pillar of their thinking!

Evolutionary theory undergirded the “might is right” philosophy of Germany decades before World War I. German “higher criticism” of the Bible washed away belief in the credibility of the Scriptures, particularly the Old Testament. Germans largely followed the same evolutionary/racist ethics that are prominent today in the racialist right.

Combined with virulent criticism of Jews, denying them their biblical role in God’s plan of the ages, evolution set the stage for demonization and violence against the Jewish people. Thus, evolution, stimulating racist premises of Aryan superiority, played a foundational role in energizing the Third Reich in its provocation of a second world war.
-Rev. Ted Pike, National Prayer Network.

How do people get to be this crazy? Darwin and Zionists and Nazis, oh my!

227 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 1:42:36am

I have counter-question: Why are so many people who reject evolution so big into social Darwinism?

228 yasharki  Mon, May 23, 2011 2:15:22am

Yahoo to the rescue: “Why doesn’t the scientific community abandon Darwin’s failed hypotheses?”

[Link: answers.yahoo.com…]

Priceless.

229 yasharki  Mon, May 23, 2011 2:21:47am

I spoke too soon, a few links down google search found this marvel:

[Link: zionistoutrage.com…]

“In 1867 Karl Marx dedicated DasKapital to Charles Darwin… Opposing Christian values, the Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, ACLU and a myriad of other liberal Jewish organizations loathe the burgeoning creationist and intelligent design movements.”

Get a load of this :)

230 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 2:24:44am

Maybe he was visited at school by Trevor when he was a child?


Youtube Video
231 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 2:46:00am

Wow Joplin Mo. got hammered last night, they are saying around 2000 structures severely damaged, including a hospital that took a direct hit.

MSNBC Video

No hard numbers on the death toll yet but the county coroner said he believes at least thirty people were killed. :(

232 freetoken  Mon, May 23, 2011 3:08:05am
MP3 Audio
233 freetoken  Mon, May 23, 2011 3:22:52am

re: #231 ausador

Apparently a significant portion of Joplin was damaged. Reuters is up to 30 dead.

Supposedly a link to a stream of Jasper county law enforcement radio:

[Link: www.radioreference.com…]

234 freetoken  Mon, May 23, 2011 3:42:53am
Youtube Video
235 researchok  Mon, May 23, 2011 3:47:01am

Morning, all

236 researchok  Mon, May 23, 2011 3:49:46am

re: #233 freetoken

Apparently a significant portion of Joplin was damaged. Reuters is up to 30 dead.

Supposedly a link to a stream of Jasper county law enforcement radio:

[Link: www.radioreference.com…]

CNN reporting 89 fatalities

237 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 3:52:11am

re: #233 freetoken

Video shot by a guy taking refuge in a convenience store during the tornado, not much to see in the dark, but with 20 odd people trying to squeeze in a beer cooler for refuge as the building is being torn apart the audio is pretty dramatic.


Youtube Video
238 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 3:53:14am

re: #236 researchok

CNN reporting 89 fatalities

Yeah they just had a press conference with the mayor and emergency service people, 89 confirmed dead so far. :(

239 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:09:56am

Damn

I almost forgot about these two!

[Link: www.boston.com…]

The trial had been scheduled to resume on May 11, but the men weren’t brought to court and no explanation was given to the families or their lawyer in Tehran. Hickey said her son “has no idea why he wasn’t brought to court or what was going to happen next.’

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:15:01am

re: #181 freetoken

I just love “A Trip To The Moon”.

I think it’s why I love this video so much.

241 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:19:21am

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I just love “A Trip To The Moon”.

I think it’s why I love this video so much.

You’d make a great Ralph Kramden

Youtube Video
242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:23:28am

I’m kind of nervous this morning… mother-in-law is being rolled into surgery in 15 minutes or so. Surgery will take 2 to 9 hours. May be only major surgery but could be awfully major surgery.

The surgery is happening over two hours away (there are only a handful of docs who do this in the United States).

My wife let me go. With my mom only 7 months gone, I’m kind of … shall we say … “intense” emotionally about this.

To add a better “what the fuck” to this little story… the surgery is on my FIL’s (the Coyote grabber’s) 80th birthday.

243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:24:00am

re: #241 sattv4u2

or Moe.

Why I oughtta…

244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:24:47am

re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That should have read, “My wife would NOT let me go.”

245 aagcobb  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:25:44am

re: #190 SanFranciscoZionist

They claim that the definition of “natural born citizen” comes from a Swiss book written in French by a guy named Vattel, “The Law of Nations”, rather than the English common law definition of “natural born subject.”

246 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:25:45am

re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here’s hoping for the best. I just found out another of my old friends narrowly escaped dying of a brain tumor. His only symptom was blurry vision, but luckily he’s an opthamologist so he was able to rule out all other causes. They actually did ‘exploratory brain surgery’ to get it out.

247 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:26:44am

re: #245 aagcobb

It’d be really, really, really funny if a judge used one of those ‘no foreign laws can be considered’ Tea Party laws to dismiss a complaint against Obama about ‘natural born’ status.

248 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:34:09am

re: #242 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So what is your MIL having surgery on?

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:38:45am

re: #248 Obdicut

Pancreas. Cancer. But, not “pancreatic cancer”.

But very, very, very serious. My wife works in Radiation Oncology.

Sometimes a little less knowledge is helpful.

250 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:39:25am

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Already metastasized? Ouch. Best of luck.

251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:40:55am

re: #250 Obdicut

We don’t think so. But they may have to do an complete “whipple procedure”. GAH! They may look in there and go, “Oh.” and close her back up.

252 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:49:19am

re: #251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow. That’s one of those procedures where it’s just amazing we can even do that and have a living human being afterwards.

253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 4:52:10am

re: #252 Obdicut

Certainly. As the husband of a long time diabetic, I was shocked that I knew so little about the pancreas and it’s importance to being “alive”.

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:00:01am

re: #252 Obdicut

Chris Rea had a Whipple Procedure. Perfect title for a song (for me, today anyway).

255 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:04:40am

re: #254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whipple must have been some sort of magical badass to convince anyone to even undergo that for the first time.

256 Flounder  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:13:03am

re: #254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Best wishes to you and your family, surgery and all that scares the crap outta me.

257 Renaissance_Man  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:14:07am

Whipples are one of those things where I strongly get the impression that surgeons just feel they have to do something, so they may as well go big or go home. Where I’m at, they have two full surgical teams, six or so surgeons who do nothing but Whipples full time. I haven’t seen one cure pancreatic cancer yet, but results with different conditions are better.

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:18:36am

Anybody know how to italicize or bold on FB? The HTML stuff doesn’t seem to work over there.

259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:21:11am

re: #257 Renaissance_Man

My wife is mostly concerned about the subsequent weight loss from whipple patients.

Her mom is about 5 feet tall and weighs about 100lbs to begin with.

260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:22:16am

All this worry, and I read about Joplin, MO.

Shit.

261 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:39:45am

re: #258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody know how to italicize or bold on FB? The HTML stuff doesn’t seem to work over there.

Have you tried…

Italics.
Bold.
[u]Underlined.[/u]
[s]Strike through.[/s]
[sup]Superscript.[/sup]
[sub]Subscript.[/sub]
[size=3]Larger font.[/size]
[quote]Unattributed quote.[/quote]

Works some places where HTML doesn’t, but never tried on Facebook, don’t post there myself.

262 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:42:09am

Oops…
[ i]italics[ /i]
[ b]bold[ /b]

I those two work here too… (remove the spaces between the brackets when actually using)

263 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:46:16am

Morning Lizardim. Sorry to say, I’m still here and Judgment Day didn’t totally destroy things - though it almost did, as we had a crazy tornado season over the weekend. The sirens went off in town three times over the course of 24 hours. I haven’t checked out the extent of the damage, but a friend in Boston says it’s major news. I hope everybody’s okay out here in the wild north country.

264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:48:35am

re: #261 ausador

Nope, but thanks.

265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:50:53am

re: #263 thedopefishlives

Keep your head down, fish.

266 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:56:19am

re: #265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Keep your head down, fish.

Apparently so.

Tornado devastates Minneapolis’ north side, kills 1

267 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 5:56:41am

Morning Honcos.

268 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:00:07am

re: #264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nope, but thanks.

Ok then try this…

Bold text: *surround your text with stars*

Italic text: _surround your text with underscore_

It has to be that then, because there just isn’t any other system I have ever heard of…

269 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:02:36am

Been reading about Joplin,Mo….
I feel guilty for being pissy about the thunderstorm that kept
awake last night!
Thoughts and prayers for tho’s in the devastation!

270 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:02:44am

re: #268 ausador

Ran a quick test but didn’t work. Maybe they’re not set up for it?

271 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:04:32am

Me thinks this Pastor was worried about the rapture…
[Link: www2.tbo.com…]

272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:06:40am

re: #268 ausador

Funny. That does work, but only in Facebook chat. But not Statuses and stuff.

273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:09:19am

re: #269 reloadingisnotahobby

Perspective is a bitch, no?

274 prairiefire  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:10:41am

It looks really bad in Joplin. I hope those folks get all the help they need.

275 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:13:16am

re: #273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Indeed!
Hope all goes well with your MIL!!
I’ve been AWOL here because I was spending all my spare time with my Bro in law…Stage 4 diagnosed in Feb.
He passed away on the 11th…been a rough few weeks!

276 darthstar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:13:42am

re: #87 ozbloke

Camping’s site is back up.

It had been down.

It’s been “born again”…

Graphical Homepage updated on: 05/22/2011 17:39:22


After two years of selling fear and financial ruin they’re here to help pick up the pieces…so please, donate today…
/

277 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:13:58am

re: #275 reloadingisnotahobby

Dude…

278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:15:43am

re: #276 darthstar

It’s been “born again”…


After two years of selling fear and financial ruin they’re here to help pick up the pieces…so please, donate today…
/

Heh… they have a link… “What’s new?”

I didn’t click it, but I’m guessing that it says, “Uh… we’re still here”.

279 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:16:04am

re: #275 reloadingisnotahobby

Glad you’re back. Not so glad about the reason, though. My thoughts and prayers to your family.

280 prairiefire  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:16:51am

Twitter photos from Joplin:[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]

281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:17:41am

re: #266 thedopefishlives

Apparently so.

Tornado devastates Minneapolis’ north side, kills 1

Isn’t Minneapolis’ north side called the “Arctic Circle”?

Sorry. Not a joking matter.

282 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:18:54am

re: #281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Isn’t Minneapolis’ north side called the “Arctic Circle”?

Sorry. Not a joking matter.

Actually, I laughed.

283 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:19:49am

re: #281 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If I had to live in Tornado country my neighbors would hate me!!
My home would look like Fort Knox….with fewer frills.

284 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:20:20am

re: #257 Renaissance_Man

Whipples are one of those things where I strongly get the impression that surgeons just feel they have to do something, so they may as well go big or go home. Where I’m at, they have two full surgical teams, six or so surgeons who do nothing but Whipples full time. I haven’t seen one cure pancreatic cancer yet, but results with different conditions are better.

My sister got Whippled over her pancreateic cancer, and, unfortunatley, she is back in chemo…

285 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:20:45am

re: #257 Renaissance_Man

Whipples are one of those things where I strongly get the impression that surgeons just feel they have to do something, so they may as well go big or go home. Where I’m at, they have two full surgical teams, six or so surgeons who do nothing but Whipples full time. I haven’t seen one cure pancreatic cancer yet, but results with different conditions are better.

My FIL had the whipple at Johns Hopkins. He lived another year, beating the odds for Pancreatic Cancer. It is one nasty disease.

Also, Good Morning Lizards!

286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:21:10am

re: #285 rwdflynavy


‘Sup, Cappie!

287 rwdflynavy  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:22:03am

re: #286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

‘Sup, Cappie!


Doing well. Sorry to hear about your MIL. She is on my prayer list!

288 prairiefire  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:22:18am

re: #280 prairiefire

Twitter photos from Joplin:[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]

Be ready to listen to the audio, just saying.

289 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:22:20am

re: #283 reloadingisnotahobby

If I had to live in Tornado country my neighbors would hate me!!
My home would look like Fort Knox…with fewer frills.

Unfortunately, against a tornado even Fort Knox would have to yield. An EF-5 can produce winds in excess of 200 mph, and that grey-brown color? Oh yeah, that’s debris that the thing has been sucking up. It’s like a wrecking ball blasting through your house with the force of a cannon.

290 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:23:39am

Whipples??
Hard to take that seriously!!
Charmin T/P comes to mind…(please don’t squizzzz)
Sorry in advance!

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:25:58am

re: #290 reloadingisnotahobby

Oh, I know. Me too.

292 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:29:13am

re: #272 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry, tried google for answer yet?

293 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:30:50am

Creepiest picture from the tornado:

[Link: www.flickr.com…]

294 darthstar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:30:52am

re: #289 thedopefishlives

Unfortunately, against a tornado even Fort Knox would have to yield. An EF-5 can produce winds in excess of 200 mph, and that grey-brown color? Oh yeah, that’s debris that the thing has been sucking up. It’s like a wrecking ball blasting through your house with the force of a cannon.

My favorite post-tornado picture, from a few years back, is of a piece of straw (these things do target hay bales it seems) stuck through a telephone pole. About an inch or two of it sticking out each side.

295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:31:29am

re: #292 ausador

Been all up in that. I’m guessing that the FB dude is afraid that things like that will make the cool kids stand out. He’s just a nerd TRILLIONAIRE.

296 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:31:47am

It’s times like this I wish I could just load the truck and camp trailer with tools and hit the road !
….To Joplin
Work beckons……Later!

297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:32:15am

re: #294 darthstar

Mythbusters couldn’t make that work. Said it was fake, IIRC.

298 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:39:22am

re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mythbusters couldn’t make that work. Said it was fake, IIRC.

That was for hurricane-force winds, I do believe. I don’t know if they amped it up to tornado levels.

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:41:23am

re: #298 thedopefishlives

A piece of straw can penetrate all the way through a palm tree if propelled by hurricane-force winds.

busted

Propelling a piece of straw at a palm tree at a distance of 50cm at 320mph (the world record for recorded wind speed at ground level), the straw only managed to penetrate the tree a quarter of an inch. Even firing at the tree while it was bent (to increase the size of the pores in the surface of the tree) at point blank range added no additional distance into the tree. A piece of reed was tested as the sturdiest organic object that might be mistaken for a piece of straw. At both ranges, the reed only managed to go about two inches into the tree. Additionally, Jamie tried a piece of piano wire, and at 50 cm, it flew not only through the tree but through a sheet of plywood on the wall behind it, partially embedding itself into the cement wall.

300 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:42:45am

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I believe that answers that question.

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:43:51am

re: #300 thedopefishlives

Until I saw that episode, I thought the picture was authentic also.

302 darthstar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:45:35am

re: #300 thedopefishlives

I believe that answers that question.

Yay piano wire. (and thanks everyone for pissing in my porridge).

303 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:45:58am

Morning all!

Here for a short while.

How is everyone?

304 _RememberTonyC  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:45:59am

After all the crazy f’d up weather and other natural disasters we have had, it is increasingly harder to deny the existence of climate change. I used to be a skeptic, but I am now convinced.

305 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:46:02am

re: #302 darthstar

Yay piano wire. (and thanks everyone for pissing in my porridge).

Pleasure.
/

306 darthstar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:48:16am

Okay, folks…it’s Monday, final week before a software release (meaning I’m really fucking busy at work), and I need to run the dogs before work…so have a great day and I’ll check in later.

307 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:49:10am

Puppy is chewing on the house again. I can hear it.

Excuse me for a moment.

308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:49:24am

re: #304 _RememberTonyC

Me kinda, too. I vacillate between natural climate change or man made…

Regardless, it can’t hurt for me to reduce my carbon footprint.

Not looking for an argument. I’m just sayin’…

309 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:49:50am

re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Until I saw that episode, I thought the picture was authentic also.

Love Mythbusters (was part of their seismic experiment on the Washington Mall), but sometimes they absolutely get it wrong. I’ve been involved in the accident investigations of fatalities that “don’t happen”.

310 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:51:05am

re: #309 Decatur Deb

Love Mythbusters (was part of their seismic experiment on the Washington Mall), but sometimes they absolutely get it wrong. I’ve been involved in the accident investigations of fatalities that “don’t happen”.

Puppy decided to behave, all on his own.

I feel sorry for that dummy the mythbusters use for everything (I forget it’s name). That thing has more lives than Morris the Cat.

311 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:51:40am

re: #310 ggt

Puppy decided to behave, all on his own.

I feel sorry for that dummy the mythbusters use for everything (I forget it’s name). That thing has more lives than Morris the Cat.

“Buster”.

312 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:51:43am

re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Me kinda, too. I vacillate between natural climate change or man made…

Regardless, it can’t hurt for me to reduce my carbon footprint.

Not looking for an argument. I’m just sayin’…

What about CV’s carbon footprint?

313 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:52:32am

re: #310 ggt

Puppy decided to behave, all on his own.

I feel sorry for that dummy the mythbusters use for everything (I forget it’s name). That thing has more lives than Morris the Cat.

Buster. I think they do good work, more from the standpoint of encouraging people to think on their own by setting up hypotheses and testing them in a scientific fashion.

314 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:53:50am

re: #313 thedopefishlives

Buster. I think they do good work, more from the standpoint of encouraging people to think on their own by setting up hypotheses and testing them in a scientific fashion.

I love watching then blow stuff up.

Perpetual boys.

They have to have the best boy jobs outside the military.

315 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:54:11am

re: #313 thedopefishlives

Buster. I think they do good work, more from the standpoint of encouraging people to think on their own by setting up hypotheses and testing them in a scientific fashion.

And they are a big driver of the “Cool Nerd” movement.

316 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:55:38am

Congress to authorize open season on Al Quaida this week.

317 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:55:54am

re: #314 ggt

I love watching then blow stuff up.

Perpetual boys.

They have to have the best boy jobs outside the military.

Oh, absolutely. The bigger the boom, the bigger my grin. The Mrs. Fish just shakes her head and rolls her eyes at me.

318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:56:29am

re: #315 Decatur Deb

Kari gets a lot of unwanted dream nerd sex, that’s for sure.

319 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:56:37am

My thoughts when I hear Mythbusters!

320 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:57:09am

re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kari gets a lot of unwanted dream nerd sex, that’s for sure.

Get out of my head!!!

321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 6:57:19am

re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kari gets a lot of unwanted dream nerd sex, that’s for sure.

re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar

My point is made.

322 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:00:23am

The one in which they debunked the bic lighter starting a car on fire (I forget the myth)

I think they had about 1000 bic lighters duct-taped together —only boys would do that

LOL!

323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:01:40am

re: #320 Cannadian Club Akbar

heh…

324 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:03:22am

re: #318 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kari gets a lot of unwanted dream nerd sex, that’s for sure.

She’s pretty, she’s smart, and she likes to blow things up. What’s not to like?

325 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:03:24am

Are you guys really googling images of Kelly right now?

nerds!

/LOL

326 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:03:55am

re: #323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

heh…

Chicks and guns…

327 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:04:25am

Ni hao, honcos!

I went to a marvellous party:

Youtube Video

Damn, but Noel Coward was a genius!

328 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:04:25am

re: #322 ggt

The one in which they debunked the bic lighter starting a car on fire (I forget the myth)

I think they had about 1000 bic lighters duct-taped together —only boys would do that

LOL!

The grease fire one was my favorite!!

329 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:05:25am

re: #328 Cannadian Club Akbar

The grease fire one was my favorite!!

One of my bucket-list goals is to dump an unopened can of beef stew into a deep fryer.

330 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:05:53am

re: #329 Guanxi88

One of my bucket-list goals is to dump an unopened can of beef stew into a deep fryer.

You like remodeling kitchens?

331 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:06:58am

re: #328 Cannadian Club Akbar

The grease fire one was my favorite!!

See, you guys are going for the fires. I’m more for the explosions. Like when they tried to slow Buster’s fall by having him fall into an exploding 500-lb bomb.

332 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:07:13am

re: #330 ggt

You like remodeling kitchens?

Who says it’s at my house?

Buddy of mine settled a long-standing dispute about GFI sockets at a neighbor’s house party. All a question of time and place

333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:07:54am

re: #331 thedopefishlives

See, you guys are going for the fires. I’m more for the explosions. Like when they tried to slow Buster’s fall by having him fall into an exploding 500-lb bomb.

The coffee creamer explosion.

334 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:08:31am

re: #331 thedopefishlives

See, you guys are going for the fires. I’m more for the explosions. Like when they tried to slow Buster’s fall by having him fall into an exploding 500-lb bomb.

I liked when Kari cut up a car and duct taped it back together. Well, the her cutting it up part.

335 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:09:05am

re: #333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The coffee creamer explosion.

I re-watched the Hitler bunker bomb episode when my parents were here last. I swear my dad actually laughed when they blew up the above-ground complex and the thing just disintegrated.

336 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:09:15am

re: #334 Cannadian Club Akbar

I liked when Kari cut up a car and duct taped it back together. Well, the her cutting it up part.

Two words: Shark episode.

C’mon, you guys were staring, same as I was.

337 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:09:24am

re: #334 Cannadian Club Akbar

I liked when Kari cut up a car and duct taped it back together. Well, the her cutting it up part.

OH, I’m behind on the episodes. I missed that one. Did it work afterwards?

338 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:09:47am

re: #333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Their Alcatraz escape was absolutely phenomenal.

Just watching Adam do a build, when he gets into his ADHD zone and just zonks in hour after hour of welding and sanding, is pretty awesome.

339 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:09:54am

re: #336 Guanxi88

Two words: Shark episode.

C’mon, you guys were staring, same as I was.

Even the nerds know: sex sells!

340 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:09:56am

re: #337 ggt

OH, I’m behind on the episodes. I missed that one. Did it work afterwards?

Yes. At 45 MPH, IIRC.

341 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:10:07am

re: #337 ggt

OH, I’m behind on the episodes. I missed that one. Did it work afterwards?

If CCA’s anything like me, he lost interest once the camera went off her.

342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:10:08am

re: #337 ggt

We don’t remember.

343 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:11:29am

re: #336 Guanxi88

Two words: Shark episode.

C’mon, you guys were staring, same as I was.

There were sharks?

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:12:41am

Coffee Creamer explosion.

I was stunned last week when they proved that an elephant (in fact) is afraid of a mouse.

345 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:13:09am

re: #343 Cannadian Club Akbar

There were sharks?

I will resist…. I will not…. I must not…. Too many peccati already…. Not worth damnation to make great white joke…….

346 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:14:35am

re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Coffee Creamer explosion.

I was stunned last week when they proved that an elephant (in fact) is afraid of a mouse.

Looks like they were almost a little too close for comfort

347 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:14:37am

re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That was awesome!!!

348 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:15:17am

The only interesting time on Pawnstars is when they have to “test” a firearm someone wants to sell them.

Even the old man turns into a little boy.

349 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:15:39am

re: #347 Cannadian Club Akbar

That was awesome!!!

I’ll bet as a kid you had a magnifying glass and went ant hunting, huh

350 FemNaziBitch  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:15:50am

Time for me to go.

Have a great day all!

351 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:16:51am

re: #349 sattv4u2

I’ll bet as a kid you had a magnifying glass and went ant hunting, huh

That’s what magnifying glasses and ants are for, isn’t it? Got your own little Deathstar right there, don’t ya?

352 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:17:05am

re: #349 sattv4u2

I’ll bet as a kid you had a magnifying glass and went ant hunting, huh

Better, neighbors dad was a shrimper. He kept explosives (M-80’s) on his boat. We would go fishing in canals.

353 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:18:05am

re: #349 sattv4u2

I’ll bet as a kid you had a magnifying glass and went ant hunting, huh

When I was young and stupid, my dad and I took professional pyrotechnics training. Yes, that means I am officially licensed to blow shit up. We shot a few 4th of July fireworks shows for the little town we lived in, and we loved it.

354 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:18:17am

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

Better, neighbors dad was a shrimper. He kept explosives (M-80’s) on his boat. We would go fishing in canals.

His dad would reel in the nets and throw the M-80’s to kill the catfish biting at the nets.

355 Guanxi88  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:18:32am

Oh well! Off to bed (I work the overnight shift these days. Better pay and less hassles from everybody. ).

356 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:20:33am

re: #353 thedopefishlives

When I was young and stupid, my dad and I took professional pyrotechnics training. Yes, that means I am officially licensed to blow shit up. We shot a few 4th of July fireworks shows for the little town we lived in, and we loved it.

Youtube Video
357 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:22:39am

re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is the sort of video they showed in the training class as an example of what NOT to do. :-P

358 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:29:15am

re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Video]

The guy in the blue T-Shirt said “Hold my beer” mere seconds before the video started

359 lawhawk  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:29:47am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Lots of news coming out of Pakistan. First their security forces have apparently managed to retake the naval air station that the Taliban managed to infiltrate; but not before the Taliban did some serious damage and killed a dozen Pakistani soldiers. It took the Pakistani 16 hours to clear the base and secure it after a group of terrorists broke in. Various reports indicate that the terrorists wore suicide vests and were targeting the P3 Orions that operate from the station.

Then, there’s reports that Mullah Omar was killed. That’s not confirmed and the Taliban deny, but what was interesting is that the Pakistani officials interviewed seemed to think that Omar had been living in Quetta for the past decade.

360 lawhawk  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:36:04am

Oh, and DSK is staying a couple of blocks from my office; and news crews are swarming. Ugh.

361 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:36:46am

re: #359 lawhawk

It is interesting that the Pakistani sources claim that Omar was living in Quetta for the past decade. That’s within spitting distance of the border with Afghanistan and the border provinces.

No shock there

Intel long thought that both Omar and Bin Laden were operating in and around that region with the ability to hop in and out of either Pakistan or Afghanistan being shielded by various tribes there

362 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:39:36am

re: #360 lawhawk

Oh, and DSK is staying a couple of blocks from my office; and news crews are swarming. Ugh.

Did DSK have to pay for the security service that is baby sitting him or did he hire them?

363 BishopX  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:41:54am

re: #362 Cannadian Club Akbar

He had to pay for them, something like 200,000 a month.

364 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:42:50am

re: #363 BishopX

He had to pay for them, something like 200,000 a month.

He could have stayed at Rikers for free!!!

365 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:42:58am

Good morning lizards!

366 sattv4u2  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:46:11am

re: #365 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Whats so good about it?

It’s already 80 degrees here heading to the low 90’s and I have to mow the lawn

But wait ,, it gets better!!! Just as I was getting ready to go do that now BEFORE it gets too hot,, Mrs Satty informs me shes getting ready so I can take her out to breakfast!!!

Oh,,, joy!

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:47:05am

re: #365 NJDhockeyfan

My mother in law is “under the knife” at UVA as we type.

368 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:47:44am

Moonbat losers meet outside AIPAC meeting…

Ladies and gentlemen, meet your anti-Israel lobby

With 10,000 people attending the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, anti-war group Code Pink has set up shop across the street from the Washington Convention Center to protest Israel.

The event, called “Move Over AIPAC,” features a faux brick wall to simulate the humilating checkpoints endured by Palestinians, and has a schedule that includes “nonviolence training,” “outdoor learning circles,” and a “justice festival.”

Below, you can watch video I shot of clown Patch Adams leading a rendition of the “underwear song” as seven people gather in what he calls the “world’s largest underwear.” When you’re watching, keep in mind two things. One, that I was compassionate enough to our readers to clip the earlier part of the video, in which Adams and several other protesters “mooned for peace.” And two, that other scheduled speakers at the conference include Helen Thomas, and professors Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, who pose as serious intellectuals and co-wrote the book the Israel Lobby.

Youtube Video

369 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:48:23am

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My mother in law is “under the knife” at UVA as we type.

Holy cow! Prayer heading her way :)

370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:50:47am

re: #360 lawhawk

How quickly I forget things. Had to google the initials.

371 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:51:32am

re: #368 NJDhockeyfan

The event, called “Move Over AIPAC,” features a faux brick wall to simulate the humilating checkpoints endured by Palestinians, and has a schedule that includes “nonviolence training,” “outdoor learning circles,” and a “justice festival.”

That’s like a parody.

372 Vicious Babushka  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:53:56am

re: #368 NJDhockeyfan

Moonbat losers meet outside AIPAC meeting…

Ladies and gentlemen, meet your anti-Israel lobby

Helen Thomas? Is she also part of the “underwear” group?

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:54:18am

From what I’ve understood so far… the Joplin tornado came with zero warning.

If only 89 people have died in that maelstrom, it is a miracle.

374 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:56:17am

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

From what I’ve understood so far… the Joplin tornado came with zero warning.

If only 89 people have died in that maelstrom, it is a miracle.

I heard a report on the radio last night before nodding off (early) and the count was in the 30’s. I was shocked this AM.

375 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:58:34am

re: #372 Alouette

Helen Thomas? Is she also part of the “underwear” group?

That image is going to give me nightmares.

376 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 7:59:22am

re: #372 Alouette

Helen Thomas? Is she also part of the “underwear” group?

Pass the brain bleach, stat.

377 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:01:13am

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

From what I’ve understood so far… the Joplin tornado came with zero warning.

If only 89 people have died in that maelstrom, it is a miracle.

Was it just that sudden, or do they not have the advanced detection and early warning systems that we have here in the upper Midwest? Either way, it’s terrifying how with all our powerful technology, we are still at Mother Nature’s mercy.

378 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:03:24am

re: #377 thedopefishlives

Was it just that sudden, or do they not have the advanced detection and early warning systems that we have here in the upper Midwest? Either way, it’s terrifying how with all our powerful technology, we are still at Mother Nature’s mercy.

I heard an interview with someone there who said they were given warning for 20 minutes of a tornado warning. It hit as the sirens went off though.

379 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:04:15am

I’m out kids. See ya’ll tomorrow.

380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:05:07am

re: #378 NJDhockeyfan

Thanks. I was under the impression the folks had bupkis. That still ain’t zero, but not much more.

381 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:08:39am

re: #380 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks. I was under the impression the folks had bupkis. That still ain’t zero, but not much more.

20 minutes is a long time, but not a lot of people take warnings seriously (even though a warning is a confirmed sighting) because they cover such a large area and tornadoes, in particular, are so unpredictable. In this case, the sirens just came too late.

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:10:31am

re: #381 thedopefishlives

I do not take them seriously at all. I know I should. But, I don’t.

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:11:19am

re: #381 thedopefishlives

Sirens are a different animal though. The EMS thing on TV… meh.. Sirens? I’m duckin’ for cover.

384 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:13:07am

re: #383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sirens are a different animal though. The EMS thing on TV… meh.. Sirens? I’m duckin’ for cover.

Yeah. After the second time the sirens went off on Saturday, we were in the basement.

385 lawhawk  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:13:22am

re: #381 thedopefishlives

Even if you took shelter, that size tornado could do tremendous damage to secure structures.

The thing ripped through the heart of that city.

They’re lucky that the hospital wasn’t more damaged than it was - and they just had enough time to get patients out of their rooms and into central areas of the hospital before it hit.

386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:13:34am

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I certainly hope that does not appear that I am wishing for more.

387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:14:45am

re: #384 thedopefishlives

Yeah. After the second time the sirens went off on Saturday, we were in the basement.

Ensign? Bring me my brown trousers.

388 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:17:03am

re: #385 lawhawk

Even if you took shelter, that size tornado could do tremendous damage to secure structures.

The thing ripped through the heart of that city.

They’re lucky that the hospital wasn’t more damaged than it was - and they just had enough time to get patients out of their rooms and into central areas of the hospital before it hit.

Oh, no doubt. Tornadoes are pretty scary beasts, especially larger ones. The potential for devastation is immense.

389 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:23:49am

Wooooo Hooooo!!!
The Sun is out …the Sun is out …the Sun is out!!!
Happy dance!!
Crap…I have two 2 inch irrigation lines to dig up and repair!
But…
The Sun is out …the Sun is out….!!
Time to play in the mud….poop!

390 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:26:46am

re: #14 negativ

It’s too bad she won’t live. But then again, who does?

JUST EYES!

391 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:29:19am

re: #322 ggt

Jato Impala

Youtube Video
392 lawhawk  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:37:07am

And like that, the latest attempt to broker a deal letting Yemen’s Saleh transition to a new government, has broken down into running gun battles between Saleh’s loyalists and opposition groups:

Yemeni loyalist forces fought a gunbattle on Monday with opponents of entrenched President Ali Abdullah Saleh one day after he backed out of a Gulf-brokered accord for him to step down.

The clashes in Sanaa cast renewed doubt on prospects for a political solution to a three-month crisis in which youth-led demonstrators, inspired by protests that swept aside the leaders of Egypt and Tunisia, are demanding an end to Saleh’s nearly 33-year rule.

393 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:39:29am

re: #392 lawhawk

Yemeni Cricket!

394 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:48:09am

well I managed not to get myself raptured, although around 5:30 on saturday the Crappie bite really picked up in the tournament I was fishing and I managed to get in the top 10 for largest fish and heaviest stringer.

395 Obdicut  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:48:47am

re: #394 Dreggas

Nice jorb.

396 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:50:02am

re: #394 Dreggas

well I managed not to get myself raptured, although around 5:30 on saturday the Crappie bite really picked up in the tournament I was fishing and I managed to get in the top 10 for largest fish and heaviest stringer.

Congrats! I thought about starting fishing again this year but time and money are still too tight. Maybe next year.
sigh

397 blueraven  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:52:44am

FRONTLINE on PBS tonight: WikiSecrets

Attempts to establish a direct link from Manning to Assange

As the film tracks Manning from his deployment to Iraq through his arrest and imprisonment, several key questions emerge—among them, the shocking ease with which Manning browsed and downloaded so much classified information from Pentagon servers despite the widely available systems developed to prevent exactly this. The case presents an important cautionary note to the theory that lower-level analysts like Manning should have access to such a wide range of intelligence: “9/11 surfaced the fact that there was less than adequate sharing of information across the government,” says former Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte. “We went from a need-to-know philosophy to a need-to-share.” Former State Department official Larry Wilkerson says the government may have shared the information too widely: “Bradley Manning does not need to know what the secretary of defense said to his counterpart in Paris.”

WikiSecrets also examines the relationship between Manning and Julian Assange, the founder of WikilLeaks. In public statements, and in his interview with FRONTLINE, Assange has denied any direct contact with Manning or any WikiLeaks source. But hacker Lamo says that Manning indicated otherwise in their online chat: “He mentioned Julian Assange in the context Julian was the individual at WikiLeaks who he had initially establish contact with.”

Read more: [Link: www.pbs.org…]

398 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:55:29am

re: #395 Obdicut

re: #396 Killgore Trout


thanks guys :).

Oh and the Rammstein show kicked ass big time. They really turned it up to 11.

399 schnapp  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:56:45am

nice business venture[Link: gregmankiw.blogspot.com…]

400 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 23, 2011 8:58:40am

re: #378 NJDhockeyfan

I heard an interview with someone there who said they were given warning for 20 minutes of a tornado warning. It hit as the sirens went off though.

Lubbock has de-activated its warning sirens to save a little money. This is based on the dubious assumption that TV are radio are sufficient. It probably hasn’t occurred to the city bureaucrats that there are people here who don’t sit in front of a blaring idiot box for hours on end. Some people have emergency weather radios but these are widely believed to have a bad habit of waking you in the middle of the night for nothing.
Incidentally, the Metro Tower in Lubbock’s old downtown is the tallest building ever to survive a direct hit by an F-5 tornado (on May 11th, 1970). It is across the street from the city emergency offices.

401 Summer Seale  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:02:00am

Good late afternoon everyone. =)

I got this just now via @BoingBoing: [Link: www.getmiro.com…]

Open Source, Free, All platforms, uses your iTunes library without changing anything if you want, can sync to Android phones fully via an iTunes interface, and has a bittorrent client integrated. I just installed it on my Mac to try it out with my Android phone. Really kewl. =)

Figured I’d just throw it out there for anyone else with an Android phone and tech geeks who want to try out stuff that isn’t locked down. =)

402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:02:31am

re: #400 Shiplord Kirel

F-5, The Finger of God.
-Twister

403 Flounder  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:03:42am

I read this article in my local rag: [Link: www.timesunion.com…]
and it sounds like local restaurants are responsible for what a lawmaker eats. Am I reading this right?

404 kirkspencer  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:05:10am

re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

F-5, The Finger of God.
-Twister

What they didn’t tell you is that it’s the middle finger.

405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:06:00am

Mother in law is out of surgery. They did not have to do a complete “Whipple Procedure”. I guess that is good. Had to take out half of her pancreas, though.

406 iceweasel  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:07:55am

re: #405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mother in law is out of surgery. They did not have to do a complete “Whipple Procedure”. I guess that is good. Had to take out half of her pancreas, though.

Glad to hear she’s out of the surgery; hope she and your family are doing well.

407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:09:02am

re: #406 iceweasel

We’re doing as well as terrified people do.

408 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:12:06am

re: #400 Shiplord Kirel

As discussed upthread, even the people who are in a position to be rudely interrupted by the announcement of a tornado warning may not take heed. Those sirens are really the most effective way to get people to move their butts into safe shelter.

409 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:13:10am

re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

F-5, The Finger of God.
-Twister

One of the really odd things about the Lubbock tornado is that only about 10 people even claimed to have seen it, despite its long path through a densely populated area. There are no pictures of the tornado itself. This is because the tornado struck at night in the middle of an awesome wind and hail storm, with straight winds as high as 70mph and rain so heavy it limited visibility to a few feet.

410 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:17:50am

re: #409 Shiplord Kirel

One of the towns in fish country was hit by a tornado during the Palm Sunday 1965 outbreak. In a cruel twist of fate, exactly 30 years later, another tornado followed the exact same path of destruction through the town.

411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:28:01am

re: #407 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife and her family are pragmatic, pretty non-emotional folks.

Me? I am very close to her and have been a fucking basket case.

412 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:29:28am

Sen. Scott Brown says no to GOP Medicare plan


In what could be a boost for Democrats, GOP Sen. Scott Brown said Monday he will vote against a controversial Republican plan to revamp the popular Medicare program for seniors.

Brown, a moderate who is up for re-election next year in traditionally Democratic Massachusetts, announced his opposition to the Medicare proposal and the GOP budget authored by Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., in a column for Politico.

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:31:53am

re: #412 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

SCOTT BROWN’S A RINO!

414 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:33:37am

Gingrich says he is a “Washington Outsider”

I guess that is this cycles term for “Maverick”.

415 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:35:04am

re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SCOTT BROWN’S A RINO!

BUT HE DRIVES A TRUCK!

416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:35:31am

re: #414 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sure. Why not?

He is also, not Al Qaeda. That should give him as much traction.

417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:36:11am

re: #415 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

BUT HE DRIVES A TRUCK!

Probably one of those fuckin’ Subaru Brat things that hippies drive.

418 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:37:12am

re: #416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sure. Why not?

He is also, not Al Qaeda. That should give him as much traction.

Newt Gingrich is also not a witch.

419 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:37:43am

re: #418 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Newt Gingrich is also not a witch.

But… he is a Newt.

420 lawhawk  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:37:47am

re: #414 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gingrich is a DC outsider? And there’s a sucker who buys that nonsense (or is willing to print that honestly?).

Gingrich has been in and around DC ever since he left Congress.

And he’s anything but a maverick. Nuts perhaps, but not a maverick.

421 prairiefire  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:38:05am

re: #377 thedopefishlives

Was it just that sudden, or do they not have the advanced detection and early warning systems that we have here in the upper Midwest? Either way, it’s terrifying how with all our powerful technology, we are still at Mother Nature’s mercy.

The sirens went off 20 minutes before it hit. The tornado had been sighted.

422 lawhawk  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:38:06am

re: #418 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But does he float?

423 Targetpractice  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:38:24am

re: #412 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sen. Scott Brown says no to GOP Medicare plan

Reid’s pushing to get a vote on the Ryan Plan scheduled for this week. What do you want to bet that, when the final tally is taken, Scott isn’t the only Republican voting against it?

424 Stanghazi  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:39:02am

Holy shit, watch (or rather listen) to this first person vid of the tornado going over these people

Youtube Video
425 Stanghazi  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:40:32am

re: #424 Stanley Sea

Holy shit, watch (or rather listen) to this first person vid of the tornado going over these people

[Video]

The video i took while at Fastrip on east 20th street. We huddled in the back of the store until the glass got sucked out , then ran into the walk in storage fridge. Sorry for the lack of visuals but the audio is pretty telling of how intense the storm was. The tornado hits at around 1:20 seconds.

426 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:41:09am

More insanity from the darker realms of the Internet…

We have incrementally moved towards Marxism and now I think it’s at an accelerated pace. There are lots of indicators as to exactly how we’re moving along the lines of the Marxist model - if you look back historically at how societies, what they’ve done as they’ve moved toward Marxism, we’re doing all of those things.

One of which is, you look at Hitler - and one of the most disgusting things I hear is people who call Hitler “the extreme right.” The absolute opposite was true - it was the National Socialist Party, he was an extraordinarily off-the-scale leftist. But many Jews in America, for example, can’t identify with the Republican Party because they’re called the party of the right and they equate that to Hitler when in fact nothing could be further from the truth. So, that’s just a data point.

One of the things that Hitler did was he established the Brownshirts. The Brownshirts where his constabulary force to control the population because, as you’re making these radical changes, there has to be some entity that stands by you with the strength and the muscle to allow you to make these over the opposition and the protest of the sovereign, the people. So Hitler had the Brownshirts.

Well, in the lead-up to the election, during the campaigns, our current president said very openly, and you can find it on YouTube, if I am elected President , I will have a national civilian security force that is as large as and as powerful as the US military.

For what? Why do you need a national civilian security force?

Now most people say, well we haven’t seen any signs of the administration doing that. Until you go back and read what nobody in Washington read, and that’s the health care legislation that lays out a provision for the commissioning of officers to work directly for the President in time of a national emergency.

Now what would bring about a national emergency? An economic collapse, a terrorist attack, a natural disaster - we talked about all those things here - which would then allow for martial law. The foundation has been laid.

[Link: www.rightwingwatch.org…]

America going Marxist—check
Hitler/Godwin—check
Nazi’s were leftists—check
Denigrating Jewish intelligence—check
More Godwin/Brownshirts—check
Obama’s radical changes to America—check (some of us wish)
Obama Brownshirt Army—check
“Obamacare”=secret plan to destroy America—check
Martial law takeover—check

Gee, if only if he had mentioned gays and abortion somewhere in there he would have hit every one of the Rightwing talking points…

the health care legislation that lays out a provision for the commissioning of officers to work directly for the President in time of a national emergency

Yeah sure, but how is Obama going to take over the country under martial law with nothing but a bunch of Doctors, Dentists, Podiatrists and Gynecologists? Well? The bill is talking about medical officers after all, ohh, gee (this is just so embarrassing) , I’m sorry did you miss that part?

///

427 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:42:20am

Libya: ‘Forced to rape in Misrata’

Before I go any further, let me acknowledge that it is clearly in the rebels’ interest to portray Col Gaddafi’s forces in the worst possible light.

It is also possible that the soldiers were coerced into telling us lies.

And there is a big difference between individual acts of violence committed during wartime and a systematic campaign to target civilians.

My impression was that the men were telling the truth and that - although there are credible stories of abuse of pro-Gaddafi troops by rebel forces - the conditions and atmosphere at the prison, which I have visited before, appeared benign.

Here, in their own words, then is what they told me, through a reliable interpreter.

The 17-year-old did most of the talking and his colleague occasionally nodded or added a few sentences. I’ve added some details in parenthesis.
‘Shot them in the leg’

“They brought us in a group of 400 people to Misrata, saying the city is under attack from Algerian and Egyptian mercenaries and that we have come here to liberate Misrata. They divided us into groups and we went our separate ways.

“First we knocked at a door and nobody opened so we broke the door and entered the house.

“The mother was screaming and when we pointed the gun at her, she stopped screaming.

“Then we tied up the mother and father and their boys [three of them] by their feet and hands. Then we shot every one of them in the leg.

“Then the officers took the girls upstairs, and we were told to go on the roof [to keep guard] until the officers had finished the rape and then we were told to rape the girls too.

“We felt scared, but when we refused to rape, they started to beat us.

“There were four girls aged between about 20 and 24.

“They were conscious [during the rapes]. I raped one.”

428 prairiefire  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:45:05am

re: #424 Stanley Sea

I feel so sorry for that young child. Some guy yells out “I love everyone.” First the windows pop as it approaches, then the first wall of the tornado, a pause, then the full force of the other wall of the cyclone.

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:46:30am

I really need to step away for a bit. Chores and stuff.

Later. Thanks for your good wishes and thoughts.

430 prairiefire  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:46:47am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I really need to step away for a bit. Chores and stuff.

Later. Thanks for your good wishes and thoughts.

Best wishes, FBV.

431 sagehen  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:58:48am

Ireland is loving on our President; MSNBC and CNN.

432 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:59:53am

re: #431 sagehen

Ireland is loving on our President; MSNBC and CNN.

Just when I’ve accepted he’s black, he turns out to be Irish as well!
///

433 sagehen  Mon, May 23, 2011 9:59:57am
Youtube Video
434 Varek Raith  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:00:24am

re: #431 sagehen

Ireland is loving on our President; MSNBC and CNN.

Fox is not.
;)

435 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:01:54am

re: #426 ausador

I appear on local talk radio once a week, mainly to discuss technology and science but we hear a lot of this wingnut conspiracy stuff from callers. To them, the scientific enterprise is part and parcel of the great anti-Christian conspiracy. I have found it useful to ask them what their understanding is of terms like “Marxist,” “socialism,” and “left/right.” They very often don’t have a clue. In particular, they may not know who Karl Marx was, when and where he lived, or whether socialists invariably create dictatorships.

436 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:05:10am

re: #431 sagehen

Ireland is loving on our President; MSNBC and CNN.

Well, you see, it’s because Ireland is a nest of drunken gay lefties who live under Shariah law, they accept the Kenyan usurper as a fellow America-hater and consequently admire him for his success in undermining the Great Satan. (As we know, the Taliban and other America-haters are in bed with the gays and hippies.)

437 wee fury  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:05:50am

re: #424 Stanley Sea

Yes. Yesterday in the MSP area — bad stuff — not nearly as bad as MO — bad, nevertheless.

438 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:07:16am

re: #427 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This is what used to be known as the “spoils of war” it was every soldiers right to rape and pillage the enemy. Things have just not changed all that much during the short period known as ‘recorded history’ have they? When the Russians entered Berlin historians claim that as many as two million rapes occurred, and that 35,000+ German women committed suicide after being raped.

Different day but the same old shit, unfortunately. :(

439 sagehen  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:07:29am

“Kennedy, Reagan, O’Neill and Moynihan… you could say there’s always been a little green behind the red white and blue”

440 engineer cat  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:07:46am

re: #426 ausador

re: #435 Shiplord Kirel

there is, of course, a definite effort to cause confusion about political terminology, which has been quite successful

so much so that wingnuts have reacted with confusion and alarm when i have confronted them with a collection of dictionary definitions of ‘socialism’. one guy told me that this is the result of “leftist lexicographers”

441 sagehen  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:08:23am

re: #440 engineer dog

re: #435 Shiplord Kirel

there is, of course, a definite effort to cause confusion about political terminology, which has been quite successful

so much so that wingnuts have reacted with confusion and alarm when i have confronted them with a collection of dictionary definitions of ‘socialism’. one guy told me that this is the result of “leftist lexicographers”

Chomsky!!

442 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:09:13am

Breaking news: Governor Pawlenty is in for 2012. This could get … awkward.

443 lawhawk  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:10:11am

re: #442 thedopefishlives

Awkward for who?

444 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:11:31am

re: #443 lawhawk

Awkward for who?

For me, given that he’s the former governor of my current state of residence. Not to mention that the guy is actually fairly popular up here in the wild north country.

445 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:13:22am

re: #442 thedopefishlives

Breaking news: Governor Pawlenty is in for 2012. This could get … awkward.

Oh, great. Pawlenty is a pandering creationist douchebag. I’m glad Goldwater and Teddy Roosevelt aren’t around to see this, though we could always hope that either or both will rise from the grave and strike some sense into what the GOP has become. Come to think of it, Goldwater was a serious pilot, so he could resurrect a zombie F-111 from the nearby boneyard and fly straight to the convention.

446 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:13:24am

Blind Allegiance

“Blind Allegiance” is so full of Palin’s pettiness and incompetence that it defines her as little more than a small-town politician at a loss on the larger stage. Bailey realized she was ill-prepared for political superstardom soon after she was tapped for a spot on the Republican presidential ticket with John McCain. “Incredibly, I mostly still believed in the myth of Sarah and her ultimate mission,” he writes. “However, a piece of me could see she was in over her head.”

As her soaring popularity proved, her skills lay in firing up a crowd. And, Bailey asserts, she was happy to leave knowledge of the issues to others. As governor she created an editorial team to write op-eds on her behalf then remained detached from the process, refusing to study the issues or even familiarize herself with what her advisers turned out in her name. “She wanted credit without caring about even a fundamental understanding,” Bailey writes.

In his fervor, Bailey at first didn’t care that Palin lacked expertise — she had common sense. As she once e-mailed him, “Remember: amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic.” But Bailey came to doubt his devotion, particularly after the presidential election defeat when Palin seemed to care little for governing Alaska and far more about cashing in on her celebrity. “Sarah hadn’t ever really been a full-time governor before being nabbed by McCain,” he writes, recalling that before the vote she wrote to him: “Pray that we win so we can all get out of that place.”

447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:13:38am

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

Evans, Camping’s PR aide, told NPR he hopes Family Radio will reimburse followers who spent their savings in anticipation of the rapture, but that he can’t guarantee it.

Now, that would be a sure sign that the world was ending.

448 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:14:00am

re: #442 thedopefishlives

Breaking news: Governor Pawlenty is in for 2012. This could get … awkward.

Great, another cookie cutter douche running for the dying party.

449 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:14:04am

re: #445 Shiplord Kirel

This. This is why it’s going to get awkward.

450 Semper Fi  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:15:28am

I read this morning where LA police have arrested a suspect in the Bryan Stow beating case which took place outside Dodger Stadium in April. Mr. Stow was a visitor from San Francisco attending a Dodger/Giant game and was beaten in an apparently unprovoked attack in the parking area. Also, it looks like Mr. Stow may have some brain damage.
I pray Mr. Stow has a complete recovery and at the same time I want to thank law enforcement everywhere (not just LA) for the work they do. Sorry I can’t provide a link.

451 albusteve  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:16:14am

re: #449 thedopefishlives

This. This is why it’s going to get awkward.

only if you let it….are you losing perspective?

452 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:16:14am

re: #441 sagehen

Chomsky!!

Chomsky!!

453 Semper Fi  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:19:10am

re: #436 Shiplord Kirel

Well, you see, it’s because Ireland is a nest of drunken gay lefties who live under Shariah law, they accept the Kenyan usurper as a fellow America-hater and consequently admire him for his success in undermining the Great Satan. (As we know, the Taliban and other America-haters are in bed with the gays and hippies.)

My first good laugh this morning. Thanks

454 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:19:40am

I checked the Hot Air thread on Pawlenty. The wingnuts don’t seem overly excited about him/ Reaction seems pretty luke warm.

455 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:20:29am

Top Hamas Official Al-Zahhar: Obama Talks Of 1967 Borders – We Talk Of 1948 Borders

Top Hamas official Mahmoud Al-Zahhar has said that U.S. President Barack Obama “talks of the 1967 borders as if they are sacred borders – but who said that we will agree to only the 1967 borders, and are not talking of the 1948 borders? Why isn’t he talking about the [U.N.] Partition Plan, which is an international resolution?”

Al-Zahar rejected the possibility of swaps of land in Jerusalem for territory from historic Palestine, because, he said, these belong to the Palestinians.

He called on Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud ‘Abbas to realize that the Palestinians will not obtain a thing by appealing to the U.N. in September, as Obama said.

456 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:21:10am

re: #436 Shiplord Kirel

Well, you see, it’s because Ireland is a nest of drunken gay lefties who live under Shariah law, they accept the Kenyan usurper as a fellow America-hater and consequently admire him for his success in undermining the Great Satan. (As we know, the Taliban and other America-haters are in bed with the gays and hippies.)

Many of the Irish are disappointed. They were told Wilson Pickett would be there.

457 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:21:15am

re: #417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Probably one of those fuckin’ Subaru Brat things that hippies drive.

:/

Which are better off road than just about any so-called SUV you can name

Subaru > body on frame 5000 pound dogshit

458 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:22:30am

re: #454 Killgore Trout

I checked the Hot Air thread on Pawlenty. The wingnuts don’t seem overly excited about him/ Reaction seems pretty luke warm.

Lukewarm is the new GOP hot.

459 engineer cat  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:22:52am

wsj worked hard to portray pawlenty as a non-conservative back in 2008

But in 2005, signs of his “progressive” instincts emerged. In a quest for new revenue, Mr. Pawlenty supported a 75 cents per-pack cigarette tax. He called it a “health impact” fee. No one was fooled. User fees are generally charged to ensure that those who use a government service pay for the cost of providing that service. In this case, however, it was obvious that smokers were just being tapped to fund health-care entitlement programs.

Following the tax hike, the governor pushed through a state-wide smoking ban in workplaces, restaurants and bars. Aggressive, Nanny-state government seems to be big with Republican governors these days — although policies such as smoking bans do little to stem the costly tide of state-run health care.

In 2006, liberal Democrats (there is no other kind here) proposed a universal health-care behemoth to cover all residents. Mr. Pawlenty responded with a more limited proposal to expand the state’s child health-care program, Minnesota Care, to cover all children. More recently, the governor’s Health Care Transformation Task Force recommended imposing a mandate — à la Massachusetts — on residents to buy health insurance.

[Link: online.wsj.com…]

460 Targetpractice  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:23:36am

re: #458 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lukewarm is the new GOP hot.

Ayep. Kerry won the nomination in ‘04 on the lukewarm vote.

461 sagehen  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:24:33am

re: #455 NJDhockeyfan

Top Hamas Official Al-Zahhar: Obama Talks Of 1967 Borders – We Talk Of 1948 Borders

who said that we will agree to only the 1967 borders, and are not talking of the 1948 borders? Why isn’t he talking about the [U.N.] Partition Plan, which is an international resolution?”

Al-Zahar rejected the possibility of swaps of land in Jerusalem for territory from historic Palestine, because, he said, these belong to the Palestinians.

Al-Zahar can fuck himself on a cactus. That Wall will *never* be out of Jewish hands again. NEVER.

462 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:25:00am

Carter: ‘Probably superior’ to other ex-presidents

In an interview with NBC’s Brian Williams, former President Jimmy Carter, who has been a target of the right through the years, lauded his own post-presidency, telling Williams, “I feel that my role as a former president is probably superior to that of other presidents.”

Heh.

463 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:25:03am

re: #458 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lukewarm is the new GOP hot.

The only candidates that really excite the wingnut base (Palin, Trump, Bachmann, etc,) are completely unelectable. Any candidate with a chance at winning isn’t going to get the base excited enough to turn out on election day. What a mess.

464 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:25:53am

re: #459 engineer dog

Ah, ok. That explains it.

465 calochortus  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:26:01am

re: #436 Shiplord Kirel

Well, you see, it’s because Ireland is a nest of drunken gay lefties who live under Shariah law, they accept the Kenyan usurper as a fellow America-hater and consequently admire him for his success in undermining the Great Satan. (As we know, the Taliban and other America-haters are in bed with the gays and hippies.)

But, but, the Celtic Tiger! They were doing so well until, well, until something… A conservative but unalert (but I repeat myself) friend was going on about how well Ireland was doing and how we need to emulate them as recently as 3 or 4 months ago. Sigh.

466 b_sharp  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:28:33am

re: #457 WindUpBird

:/

Which are better off road than just about any so-called SUV you can name

Subaru > body on frame 5000 pound dogshit

Most SUVs aren’t trail rated and should be called crossovers. They’re nothing more than dressed up vans.

467 kirkspencer  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:30:06am

re: #442 thedopefishlives

Breaking news: Governor Pawlenty is in for 2012. This could get … awkward.

eh. I had already concluded he was running.

Before I start figuring and wagering on who loses to Obama (grin), I will wait to see which of the following also enter: Palin, Bachmann, Perry, Romney, and Huntsman.

Pawlenty fights Perry for one crowd. Bachmann and Palin pull the same crowd with overlap of Cain. Romney and Huntsman compete and also pull numbers from Cain. Cain actually has great potential from multiple groups but runs into the Republican Bradley effect. Plus, he’s got a major health issue. (2006 diagnosis and treatment {surgery and chemo} for stage IV colon and liver cancer.)

I figure everyone’s got till the first week of June to get their announcements made. Anyone after that is playing catch-up and, barring a major Great White Hope entry, can be discounted.

But that’s just my guess.

468 Varek Raith  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:30:18am

This just in, Tennessee court says Islam is a religion

Next up, is water wet? Find out at 11.

469 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:30:29am

re: #466 b_sharp

Most SUVs aren’t trail rated and should be called crossovers. They’re nothing more than dressed up vans.

I’d rather have the van. Get some bitching carpeting, maybe have some Frazetta stuff painted on the side.

470 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:32:06am

re: #466 b_sharp

Most SUVs aren’t trail rated and should be called crossovers. They’re nothing more than dressed up vans.

I love my Jeep Overland.

471 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:32:41am

re: #466 b_sharp

Most SUVs aren’t trail rated and should be called crossovers. They’re nothing more than dressed up vans.

Not mine:

[Link: i72.photobucket.com…]

472 b_sharp  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:33:17am

re: #469 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’d rather have the van. Get some bitching carpeting, maybe have some Frazetta stuff painted on the side.

It wouldn’t last 6 mths on the roads I drive.

473 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:33:23am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

Not mine:

[Link: i72.photobucket.com…]

That’s purdy.

474 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:34:21am

re: #472 b_sharp

It wouldn’t last 6 mths on the roads I drive.

It would on the ones I drive.

Image: 50366.jpg

475 Varek Raith  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:34:25am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

Not mine:

[Link: i72.photobucket.com…]

Image: jeep.jpg

477 b_sharp  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:36:50am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

Not mine:

[Link: i72.photobucket.com…]

That’s why I mentioned trail rated. Most Jeeps (Willys/AMC/Chrysler) are trail rated. My G. Cherokee can climb just about any hill, although it needs more ground clearance for some mud.

478 Decatur Deb  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:36:54am

re: #473 NJDhockeyfan

That’s purdy.

That photo isn’t the actual LR, but the exact twin of it. Mine has ‘761’ in the little black chalk number square, and the spare tire is still mounted on the hood (bonnet). They were both part of a run of 120 made by the British for the Belgian Army.

479 Kragar  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:37:20am

re: #476 Varek Raith

Jeff Conaway’s condition ‘increasingly grim’

Heard it was not an OD, which is good news.

480 Semper Fi  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:39:07am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

Not mine:

[Link: i72.photobucket.com…]

That’s kinda serious lookin’ and probably lots of fun.

481 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:41:27am

My cat has me pretty well trained already, when I can’t find him anywhere and he wont answer my calls he knows I will go in the kitchen and shake his treat bag. Sure he will then show up in five seconds flat, looking for treats that I then have to provide, needless to say he is becoming very adept at hiding… ;)

482 b_sharp  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:43:51am

re: #474 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It would on the ones I drive.

Image: 50366.jpg

Here’s mine.
Cherokee 5.9

483 b_sharp  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:44:21am

re: #475 Varek Raith

Image: jeep.jpg

That would be fun.

484 b_sharp  Mon, May 23, 2011 10:48:22am

re: #479 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Heard it was not an OD, which is good news.

Sepsis is really bad news.

The wife nearly died from it 2 years ago. They couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t responding, then they found her gall bladder was gangrenous.

485 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, May 23, 2011 11:05:55am

re: #482 b_sharp

Here’s mine.
Cherokee 5.9

This is what I have.

2004 Jeep Overland


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