1 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:25:34pm |
It was a good apology. Sincere. Showed a bit of class after a classless act. Any bets on whether Ingraham accepts it graciously? Or does she have it in her?
2 | MittDoesNotCompute Wed, May 25, 2011 7:25:40pm |
Ed, you're still a misogynistic putz...
3 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:27:12pm |
re: #2 talon_262
Ed, you're still a
misogynisticputz...
He's just a putz...he let his partisan passion get the better of him and made a very inappropriate comment about Laura Ingraham - who won't win Miss Congeniality in our lifetime but doesn't deserve to be called a slut.
4 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 7:28:04pm |
Imus Apology
5 | Targetpractice Wed, May 25, 2011 7:28:45pm |
Best apology I've seen from a media personality in awhile. And he didn't even go for the "I'm sorry that you're offended" bit. Wonder if MSNBC's swift action had anything to do with that?
7 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 7:30:25pm |
Tiger Woods' full apology speech
8 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:32:04pm |
re: #5 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Best apology I've seen from a media personality in awhile. And he didn't even go for the "I'm sorry that you're offended" bit. Wonder if MSNBC's swift action had anything to do with that?
Sounds like he was more than willing to take a suspension to protect the network. I suppose the conversation went something like this:
"Ed..."
"Kick me off the air for a week, two if you want...without pay."
"...you fucked up."
"I know. Just give me two minutes to apologize at the top of my show."
9 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 7:32:07pm |
I'm Sorry
10 | Iwouldprefernotto Wed, May 25, 2011 7:35:03pm |
I thought it was classy. The guy made no excuses. I sight that is rarer than a Republican who accepts global warming.
11 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:35:09pm |
Now, now...Republicans have been known to apologize emphatically too...we should be fair.
12 | Targetpractice Wed, May 25, 2011 7:35:13pm |
re: #8 darthstar
Sounds like he was more than willing to take a suspension to protect the network. I suppose the conversation went something like this:
"Ed..."
"Kick me off the air for a week, two if you want...without pay."
"...you fucked up."
"I know. Just give me two minutes to apologize at the top of my show."
Yeah, it's rather big of him. I still think he's an asshat for his choice of words, but commend him for the apology.
13 | What, me worry? Wed, May 25, 2011 7:35:25pm |
Ed has been in the decline, yes? Maybe he did this whole bit for ratings. To be outrageous, get the buzz going around him.
15 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 7:37:09pm |
16 | SpaceJesus Wed, May 25, 2011 7:37:52pm |
sounds pretty good. i like the part where he fires himself.
17 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 7:38:51pm |
Michael Richards ("Kramer") Apologizes
18 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 7:42:53pm |
Plato - The Apology
19 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 7:45:43pm |
20 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 7:47:38pm |
DAMN, that was a real apology imo.
Charles, the tweet function seemed to put in a + in between each word of the tweet.
This was what showed up as my tweet:
Ed+Schultz+Apologizes+to+Laura+Ingraham+[Link: lgf.bz...] Thanks Ed, from the Uterati.
21 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 7:49:04pm |
re: #4 Killgore Trout
Imus Apology
[Video]
He was reading off a damn script. Wow, what a mirror apology.
22 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 7:50:18pm |
re: #7 Killgore Trout
Tiger Woods' full apology speech
[Video]
I am NOT going to re-live that 14 minutes. Apples to oranges too.
23 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 7:52:21pm |
And now, re-live Sister Sarah's blood libel video.
Is this MBF? Fuck who knows. We've just had some really bad examples of owning up to your words/actions.
25 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 7:54:01pm |
26 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 7:56:10pm |
apology?....he's not an eight year old
no dice
apology unaccepted
27 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 7:56:29pm |
Ni hao, mein scaly drughi!
Ahh, nothing like a little light groveling to brighten up an otherwise dreary day.
28 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:57:37pm |
re: #26 albusteve
apology?...he's not an eight year old
no dice
apology unaccepted
You're such a slut steve.
30 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:58:03pm |
I would like to apologize. In advance. I'm sure I will fuck something up at a later date.
32 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 7:58:27pm |
34 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:59:11pm |
35 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 7:59:21pm |
re: #33 Cannadian Club Akbar
How's by you?
Me, I've got black coffee spiked with bourbon to fortify and refresh me through the long night watches
36 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 7:59:46pm |
37 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 25, 2011 7:59:49pm |
re: #34 darthstar
But you're our slut...and that's what counts.
And if anyone else calls him a slut we have to defend his honor.
38 | wee fury Wed, May 25, 2011 8:00:23pm |
OK.
The apology. It was long, convoluted, and included everyone in the universe.
And, I apologize for my analysis.
39 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:00:28pm |
re: #34 darthstar
But you're our slut...and that's what counts.
So, Bitter Half says to me the other day: "I've got it! I know who you remind me of!" (Mind you, we're married 10 years now.)
"Yeah? Who?"
"You're like Dick Nixon, but with less charm, charisma, and good looks."
40 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 8:00:30pm |
re: #37 Cannadian Club Akbar
And if anyone else calls him a slut we have to defend his honor.
That's easy...he keeps that buried in a mayonnaise jar in his back yard.
42 | funky chicken Wed, May 25, 2011 8:01:01pm |
43 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:01:03pm |
45 | What, me worry? Wed, May 25, 2011 8:01:20pm |
re: #28 darthstar
I think that's supposed to be ignorant slut.
(sorry steve, I couldn't help myself)
46 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:01:54pm |
re: #37 Cannadian Club Akbar
And if anyone else calls him a slut we have to defend his honor.
my downfall has always been trying to defend others...I'm a real sap in that regard and I have the scars to prove it
47 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:02:56pm |
re: #39 Guanxi88
So, Bitter Half says to me the other day: "I've got it! I know who you remind me of!" (Mind you, we're married 10 years now.)
"Yeah? Who?"
"You're like Dick Nixon, but with less charm, charisma, and good looks."
Dude, you've been missed. How's the snuff life?
49 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:03:53pm |
just because you are overwhelmed, busted and they stick in jail and take your money, does NOT mean you are defeated
50 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:04:09pm |
re: #44 darthstar
Good...you're communicating.
On another occasion, she asked me why I always double-checked and gainsaid her opinions and appraisals of people
"Look, you're a nice person and all, but you've got piss-poor judgment. I mean, look at who you decided you wanted to marry. After an error like that, what possible reliance can I place in you?"
51 | Girl with a Pearl Earring Wed, May 25, 2011 8:06:06pm |
52 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:06:12pm |
re: #47 Stanley Sea
Dude, you've been missed. How's the snuff life?
It's not too shabby at all. I;ve almost finished a full ounce this year - a new record.
What else? Careers got changed out from under me, oh, and I'm mixed up in some sorta complicated romantic deal with a long, long lost love (twenty years it'll be in September).
54 | kreyagg Wed, May 25, 2011 8:09:01pm |
re: #3 darthstar
It has to be there to slip out. I think the apology is genuine but the dude has work to do still.
55 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:09:35pm |
some optimism
Here Comes The Sun
56 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 8:10:26pm |
57 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 25, 2011 8:10:33pm |
58 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:10:55pm |
re: #52 Guanxi88
Stanley, as a member, a brother in good standing, in that brotherhood of the neurodiverse, I think you'd get a kick out of this birthday card I sent out today:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
59 | MittDoesNotCompute Wed, May 25, 2011 8:11:22pm |
re: #50 Guanxi88
On another occasion, she asked me why I always double-checked and gainsaid her opinions and appraisals of people
"Look, you're a nice person and all, but you've got piss-poor judgment. I mean, look at who you decided you wanted to marry. After an error like that, what possible reliance can I place in you?"
Reminds me of what Flounder was told after his brother's car was trashed on the road trip in Animal House:
Otter: Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You fucked up... you trusted us! Hey, make the best of it! Maybe we can help.
60 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:12:20pm |
61 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:12:50pm |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
Best meaningless apology ever
[Video]
Sorry, Dave
it's a technicality,
like making change
62 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:13:34pm |
re: #60 Guanxi88
[Video]There's a little black spot on the sun today
heh, I'd guessed it
great stuff, thanks even so
63 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:13:35pm |
re: #52 Guanxi88
It's not too shabby at all. I;ve almost finished a full ounce this year - a new record.
What else? Careers got changed out from under me, oh, and I'm mixed up in some sorta complicated romantic deal with a long, long lost love (twenty years it'll be in September).
Troubles! But (don't ask me, dangerous) go with your heart and throw in a bit of common sense.
64 | What, me worry? Wed, May 25, 2011 8:14:37pm |
re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar
When is a slut not a slut? When she is a streetcar named desire.
Good article. I like her comparison to the N word.
65 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:15:23pm |
re: #63 Stanley Sea
Eh, I think I'm just gonna maintain status quo; wife and I don't like each other, the old love - well, I think her husband might object, truth be told. Nothing to do about it, though.
66 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 25, 2011 8:15:48pm |
I can see her lying fast in her faded dream,
She's a hard lovin' woman, got me feeling mean.
67 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:17:47pm |
re: #66 Cannadian Club Akbar
I can see her lying fast in her faded dream,
She's a hard lovin' woman, got me feeling mean.[Video]
man, ain't that the truth, though?
(Wife went out all night Friday, and is now on a two-day road trip, with some friend or other - "Oh, I don't think you know her." yeah, I don't like her, but I HATE the thought of financing her affairs.)
68 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:19:45pm |
re: #53 albusteve
who works?
raise your hand
I would, but my shoulder is locked up. But I consider that more of a glitch in my system then me not actually working.
69 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 8:19:53pm |
70 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:20:32pm |
maybe the best song Police recorded, the outro thing is really cool
Every Breath You Take
71 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:20:59pm |
re: #65 Guanxi88
Eh, I think I'm just gonna maintain status quo; wife and I don't like each other, the old love - well, I think her husband might object, truth be told. Nothing to do about it, though.
Hang in. Oh to tell my story. I am so contemplating a blog. My experiences in the past 9 months are epic. Impossible to share here but trust that you are not an exception.
72 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 8:21:05pm |
Here's a little gloom, despair and agony...to lift your spirits.
73 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:22:23pm |
re: #68 Slumbering Behemoth
I would, but my shoulder is locked up. But I consider that more of a glitch in my system then me not actually working.
I have a debilitating hangnail
74 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:23:10pm |
re: #70 albusteve
maybe the best song Police recorded, the outro thing is really cool
Every Breath You Take[Video]
Love it.
75 | Kragar Wed, May 25, 2011 8:24:08pm |
re: #70 albusteve
maybe the best song Police recorded, the outro thing is really cool
Every Breath You Take[Video]
Always been partial to this one
76 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 25, 2011 8:24:59pm |
Canadian Club ad. Might have to switch avatars.
Image: canadianclub-yourdadwasntmomsfirst.jpg
77 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 8:25:15pm |
78 | reine.de.tout Wed, May 25, 2011 8:25:24pm |
Great apology! Accepted responsibility, and just simply apologized, with no ifs, ands or buts about it. Impressive.
79 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:25:33pm |
I blew my Police post above...got my songs crossed up
Every Little Thing She Does Is magic
a Chicago style shuffle down the end....tres kewl
80 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:27:26pm |
On the invasive, mandatory sonogram thread, I think this comment wins it.
81 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 8:27:33pm |
On Any Other Day
82 | jamesfirecat Wed, May 25, 2011 8:28:31pm |
re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth
On the invasive, mandatory sonogram thread, I think this comment wins it.
"Which invasive mandatory sonogram thread?" I say without looking at the link. We had like three of them today after all...
83 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:28:39pm |
re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Always been partial to this one
[Video]
Police night. I am happy.
85 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:29:11pm |
re: #83 Stanley Sea
Police night. I am happy.
Well, knock it off already! You're mellowing my harsh.
86 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, May 25, 2011 8:29:14pm |
Alrighty. I'm out. Kinda got woken up at the end of the hockey game. See ya'll at breakfast.
87 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 8:29:27pm |
re: #78 reine.de.tout
Great apology! Accepted responsibility, and just simply apologized, with no ifs, ands or buts about it. Impressive.
Too late. He opened his cake hole and screwed the pooch. Too bad for him. Must be hell. Jobs are hard to find right now.
88 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:29:38pm |
re: #75 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Always been partial to this one
[Video]
Actually a good video too!
89 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:30:41pm |
re: #79 albusteve
I blew my Police post above...got my songs crossed up
Every Little Thing She Does Is magic
a Chicago style shuffle down the end...tres kewl[Video]
Oh Andy. Damn it!
90 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:30:44pm |
re: #79 albusteve
I'm more of a Canary in a Coalmine kinda guy.
91 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 8:31:50pm |
Come Again
92 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:31:52pm |
re: #82 jamesfirecat
"Which invasive mandatory sonogram thread?" I say without looking at the link. We had like three of them today after all...
JUST GO UPDING IT!!!
:)
93 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:32:03pm |
re: #82 jamesfirecat
"Which invasive mandatory sonogram thread?" I say without looking at the link. We had like three of them today after all...
read the link. upding till you can't stop.
94 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:33:11pm |
Well, I've got maccoboy in both nostrils, bourbon and coffee in my gut, and 'baccy in my pipe.
Time for a smoke-break. Keep CCA away from my booze, and Stanley away from my women, would ya?
95 | reine.de.tout Wed, May 25, 2011 8:33:22pm |
re: #87 austin_blue
Too late. He opened his cake hole and screwed the pooch. Too bad for him. Must be hell. Jobs are hard to find right now.
Oh, he'll be back.
I know I have on occasion said things I regretted saying. Sometimes stuff just pops into your head (well, mine anyhow) and gets said out loud before you know it. It just happens. And it's damned hard to own up to it, I know from having had to own up to a few things a few times, and it was hard enough in private, MUCH LESS on national TV.
96 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:33:30pm |
they sort of rewrote the books for the power trio...a really different sound, and the money rained down on those guys
98 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 8:34:32pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
In regards to the the death references; La petite mort
99 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:35:45pm |
re: #96 albusteve
They were in the right place, at the right time, with just the right sound. I was rather young when they were in their heyday, so I didn't like 'em then.
I grew to appreciate their stuff later, though, as my musical tastes expanded.
100 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:36:31pm |
102 | Killgore Trout Wed, May 25, 2011 8:40:14pm |
Sting made the cash but Stewart Copeland was the real talent of the operation,
103 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:40:29pm |
re: #98 Killgore Trout
In regards to the the death references; La petite mort
As the Comte de St Germain once said, upon seeing particularly well-endowed young lady wearing a crucifix: "Oh, to die upon such a Calvary!"
105 | albusteve Wed, May 25, 2011 8:42:54pm |
re: #102 Killgore Trout
Sting made the cash but Stewart Copeland was the real talent of the operation,
maybe...his story is almost unbelievable
106 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:43:07pm |
107 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:45:10pm |
Ute Lemper, singing La Vie en Rose. (I dated a young lady - hell, I even proposed to her - who was a dead ringer for her, or at least her kid sister).
108 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 8:46:23pm |
re: #26 albusteve
apology?...he's not an eight year old
no dice
apology unaccepted
Laura? Is that you?
109 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:47:15pm |
re: #107 Guanxi88
She looks a lot like my nana, when my nana was young.
110 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 8:47:48pm |
re: #53 albusteve
who works?
raise your hand
Me? I've got a gig lined up in a couple of weeks, does that count?
111 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:48:24pm |
re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth
She looks a lot like my nana, when my nana was young.
I remember hawking my camera, my computer, and emptying my bank account to buy a ticket to see her perform (Ute Lemper, that is, not your Nana). Worth every penny.
112 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:51:57pm |
113 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, May 25, 2011 8:52:31pm |
Nite all.
Await the next outragous outrage tomorrow!
114 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 8:53:58pm |
115 | RadicalModerate Wed, May 25, 2011 8:55:10pm |
Dallas Mavs are in the NBA finals - Dirk went into beast mode again in the 4th quarter, and overcame a 8-point deficit to win 100-96.
116 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 8:56:13pm |
Okay, Lili Marleen story time.
I had a long-term, albeit unrequited, love interest in a young lady. We were friendly enough - sometimes more than friendly, but nothing overtly romantic, mind you.
Anyway, she's visiting with me and my apartment mate (also a woman) one evening. because the weather was bad, we all decided to just stay in and drink and talk and listen to music.
The lady said she'd love something unusual, but none of my stuff, since she knew my tastes ran to the classical and opera. My apartment mate said "Oh no, he listens to other stuff, he's just kinda embarrassed by it."
She went to my music cabinet and came back with the Dietrich recording on Lili Marleen. "He seems to play this one all the time." They played it, and the first song on the disk is Lili Marleen.
"He really seems to like this one." Anyway, they play Lili Marleen a few more times (the lady did not understand german, so she sat and read the liner notes) and she (the lady) said she had no idea I was such a sentimentalist.
Anyway, evening over, I rode with her in the cab to take her back to her apartment. I always did this, because I loved sitting with her. As we're riding along, she starts to hum Lili Marleen.
A beautiful memory.
117 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 8:58:10pm |
118 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 8:59:31pm |
re: #115 RadicalModerate
Dallas Mavs are in the NBA finals - Dirk went into beast mode again in the 4th quarter, and overcame a 8-point deficit to win 100-96.
Mark Cuban is an unhappy boy. He gets to lose to Miami. Again. (See 2006)
119 | Digital Display Wed, May 25, 2011 8:59:32pm |
Hi Lizards! Just got back from the Moose Lodge watching Dallas beat OKC to go to the Finals..
Most guys there blamed the refs for the game...I had to school them..
I think they hate me now..But the best team won...The thunder has big upside
120 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 9:00:37pm |
re: #119 HoosierHoops
Hi Lizards! Just got back from the Moose Lodge watching Dallas beat OKC to go to the Finals..
Most guys there blamed the refs for the game...I had to school them..
I think they hate me now..But the best team won...The thunder has big upside
I think next year they will be primed. But Miami is a monster.
121 | Daniel Ballard Wed, May 25, 2011 9:01:24pm |
Music Break?
Dire Straits Live Sultans Of Swing
122 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 9:02:30pm |
OK, as I've told you all, the school I am currently attending (as opposed to teaching at) accepted me in mid-December. As y'all may note, it is now late May. My financial aid still hasn't been processed.
I have been forgiven one class fee because they simply couldn't get their act together to do the financial aid. Now, all the paperwork has finally been requested, and turned in. I sent in the last documents (the second set of tax returns because they accidentally asked me for this years instead of last years...) on the 15th.
On the 18th I was told they had arrived, and the packet sent to the NY office. That was a week ago today.
How long should I wait, do you think, before pestering again? They want me to sign up for summer classes, and I am reluctant to do so without some indication that I am actually going to GET the financial aid.
Thoughts?
123 | reine.de.tout Wed, May 25, 2011 9:04:39pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
OK, as I've told you all, the school I am currently attending (as opposed to teaching at) accepted me in mid-December. As y'all may note, it is now late May. My financial aid still hasn't been processed.
I have been forgiven one class fee because they simply couldn't get their act together to do the financial aid. Now, all the paperwork has finally been requested, and turned in. I sent in the last documents (the second set of tax returns because they accidentally asked me for this years instead of last years...) on the 15th.
On the 18th I was told they had arrived, and the packet sent to the NY office. That was a week ago today.
How long should I wait, do you think, before pestering again? They want me to sign up for summer classes, and I am reluctant to do so without some indication that I am actually going to GET the financial aid.
Thoughts?
Go ahead and pester. You probably aren't the only one, and I don't think anybody is noticing it's you and keeping some sort of count. Just make the call.
124 | Lidane Wed, May 25, 2011 9:07:36pm |
Ed's still a douche, but at least he gave a real apology.
125 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 9:07:46pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
On the summer classes, how long is the summer semester (or quarter or whatever), and how tough are the classes.
126 | OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, May 25, 2011 9:08:13pm |
If these people were truly sorry, they would never do the things they do in the first place.
127 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:09:33pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
Generally, CPS (Central Processing System) time is about 48 hours from data entry by the fin aid office. They asked for your tax returns, which means they're performing institutional verification, a process which usually takes only a few days, at most, unless they're back-logged or short-staffed.
Once the data are entered in the CPS, the ED (department of ed) system crunches it for about 48 hours or so; assuming no errors in entry, a new SAR (Student Aid Report) is kicked back out, and they package the aid off that. Your best bet to find out what's going on is to log in to the FAFSA.ed.gov site and see what is the last transaction date on your SAR. When you see a recent one, you can usually expect aid delilvery in about a week afterward.
(And you'll never guess, not in a million years, what I used to do for a living.)
128 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 9:12:09pm |
re: #121 Rightwingconspirator
Music Break?
Dire Straits Live Sultans Of Swing[Video]
Ah, for the youngsters on the board, here is the theme song for a brilliant movie from the 80's, Local Hero. Knopfler did the soundtrack and it is killer bee:
Live version.
129 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 9:12:15pm |
re: #126 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Nah, we all fuck up from time to time. It's the "I'm sorry, but.." assholes I can't stand. And the brush off maneuver "I'm sorry you feel that way" is equally grating.
130 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:12:32pm |
re: #127 Guanxi88
Oh, and if you're looking to use student loans, go ahead and complete the online MPN's and such like at the studentloans.gov site, assuming you haven't done so already. Print out a copy of the MPN and fax or scan and email it to the fin aid office - some of them don't yet have the ability to pull in MPN's to their administrative data systems.
131 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 9:15:24pm |
re: #123 reine.de.tout
Go ahead and pester. You probably aren't the only one, and I don't think anybody is noticing it's you and keeping some sort of count. Just make the call.
I agree with The Queen. Squeaky wheels &c. Hammer them. It's *money* and the aggressive get first shot.
132 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 9:20:30pm |
re: #125 Slumbering Behemoth
On the summer classes, how long is the summer semester (or quarter or whatever), and how tough are the classes.
The program runs year-round in eight-week blocks. I've taken two classes. One was fluff with a fifteen-page research paper at the end, and the other was pretty challenging.
133 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 9:21:36pm |
re: #130 Guanxi88
Oh, and if you're looking to use student loans, go ahead and complete the online MPN's and such like at the studentloans.gov site, assuming you haven't done so already. Print out a copy of the MPN and fax or scan and email it to the fin aid office - some of them don't yet have the ability to pull in MPN's to their administrative data systems.
Thanks for all the info...this is a start-up program, and these folks are a litttttle slooowww.
134 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:22:41pm |
re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist
Thanks for all the info...this is a start-up program, and these folks are a litttle slooowww.
Yeah, I was a one-man-band for a school for about 8 years. Ya gotta keep hammering them, because it's probably only one or two people doing all the work, and they can - and will - forget.
135 | RadicalModerate Wed, May 25, 2011 9:23:31pm |
We have a new contestant in the "biggest Republican douchebag" congressman - Patrick McHenry (R- NC) pulled a switcheroo on scheduling of a hearing before the House Oversight Subcommittee on TARP, Financial Services and Bailouts of Public and Private Programs. When Elizabeth Warren, President Obama's special advisor to lead the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau complained about the scheduling change -which caused several people who were supposed to give testimony to miss the hearing, instead of apologizing about the mixup, McHenry called her a liar.
Meet Patrick McHenry, the rudest, most shameless College Republican in Congress
Video of the exchange is here:
By the way, McHenry is a veteran of the Abramoff scandal, and was one of convicted criminal Tom DeLay's compatriots who attempted to exempt himself from ethics rules.
136 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 9:23:50pm |
re: #134 Guanxi88
Yeah, I was a one-man-band for a school for about 8 years. Ya gotta keep hammering them, because it's probably only one or two people doing all the work, and they can - and will - forget.
Last time I was in grad school I was at the University of San Francisco. Jesuits never forget anything. I got spoiled.
137 | austin_blue Wed, May 25, 2011 9:24:22pm |
SWMBO is asking for my presence in our boudoir. Night all. Sweet scaly dreams!
138 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:25:16pm |
re: #136 SanFranciscoZionist
Man, if you need surgery, you see our tribe; and if you need something taught, you see a Jesuit.
139 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 9:28:52pm |
re: #138 Guanxi88
Man, if you need surgery, you see our tribe; and if you need something taught, you see a Jesuit.
They had a priest, when I was there, who was recruiting for a program in educational technology.
I did not want to do the education technology program, but I enrolled for it twice before coming to my senses. The guy was GOOD. It made you understand how they got converts in Tokugawa Japan. He'd start his spiel, and my mind would melt. It would reconstitute later, and I would pull the app again, but DANG it.
This makes me sound somewhat feebleminded, I realize. You had to be there.
140 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 9:30:23pm |
re: #137 austin_blue
SWMBO is asking for my presence in our boudoir. Night all. Sweet scaly dreams!
I don't know what a SWMBO is, but I get the feeling you should be wearing protective pads. Maybe double up on the shin guards.
141 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:31:55pm |
re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist
No, there's no shame in being persuaded by a jesuit. Hell, that's what they do - they are masters of dialectic. Ever watch one of them lecturing and look at his hands? (It's a quirk of my condition - I notice hand gestures, which I've never mastered. You;ve seen Lynch's Dune? remember Pieter the weird Mentat for the Harkonnens - I sorta gesture like him, out of synch with what I'm saying, and often unrelated)
Well, they study the arts of gesture as a means of persuasion - you can see them all using the same gestures, even, as they argue, gestures that you don't see used by others.
142 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 9:33:33pm |
re: #141 Guanxi88
I'm part Italian. My hands speak independently of my mouth.
143 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:39:00pm |
re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth
Precisely to avoid the whole Pieter DeVries effect, I generally tend, when speaking to a group, to speak with my hands clasped behind my back. If it's a one-on-one thing, I try to keep a coffee mug or something in one hand, and the other hand flat on the table.
Otherwise, it just looks weird.
144 | Not Approved By The MPAA Wed, May 25, 2011 9:39:15pm |
re: #128 austin_blue
Kudos to you and RWC for the fantastic music break(s). Let me throw one in myself. A truly classic piece, this time with THE hierarchy of British guitar players. I swear -- toss a grenade onstage and you'd wipe out the penultimate of the second British invasion...!
Enjoy!
--LWC
145 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:41:56pm |
re: #143 Guanxi88
Take a look at these hands,
Take a look at these hands.
The hand speaks,
The hand of a government man.
146 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 25, 2011 9:42:33pm |
re: #12 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, it's rather big of him. I still think he's an asshat for his choice of words, but commend him for the apology.
Agreed. I'm glad he apologized promptly, but that doesn't put things right, at least not right away. What he said was ugly and offensive and it won't be forgotten any time soon.
147 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 9:46:25pm |
re: #143 Guanxi88
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of coffee bean this cup acquires fluid, the hands acquire cup, the body acquires the ability to not look like a dork in public. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
148 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:47:39pm |
re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth
Ha! there must be a million variations on Mentat DeVries' mantra.
But that was the Talking Heads there, Born Under Punches.
149 | Targetpractice Wed, May 25, 2011 9:51:11pm |
This is bad. With Netflix on my iPad, I've been watching the same movie over and over again. And I still haven't gotten sick of it.
150 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:55:32pm |
So, the Bitter Half is, as she told me, out of town with a female friend I've never met and won't be back for a few days now; it sounds a bit suspect, but I'll just leave it alone.
I sent off a birthday card to my old love (had to send it to her office so her husband doesn't find it), and am waiting for her daily email to me.
She said to me "It's been a decade or more since I've seen anything in your script. Write me something by your hand."
Well, hallmark doesn't make cards for people in our situation, so I bought a blank notecard and wrote, in part, the following:
"If there be such a thing as Destiny - a thing of which no one can be sure; if our lives are in some way - unknown and unknowable to us - guided by the will and wisdom of the One Who Spoke - a thing of which no one can be unsure; if, in short, there be an order and purpose and meaning to the events of this, our transient existence, then I do not doubt that you are part of this structure of Being, that you are proof and sign and instrument of that Providence."
****
"No mere happenstance of calendar and clock - merely factual data, devoid of meaning, and therefore of truth - can account for, can explain, why I have never drawn breath in a world that did not include you."
There are times when I wonder what life would be like if I had married a woman I loved.
151 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 9:56:02pm |
re: #149 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Put the pr0n down, and drink some fluids.
152 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 9:56:28pm |
re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth
Put the pr0n down, and drink some fluids.
But wash your damned hands first!
153 | Targetpractice Wed, May 25, 2011 9:57:10pm |
re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth
Put the pr0n down, and drink some fluids.
...Netflix has pr0n? And I'm just learning this now?!
154 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 25, 2011 9:58:28pm |
re: #149 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
This is bad. With Netflix on my iPad, I've been watching the same movie over and over again. And I still haven't gotten sick of it.
Which movie? Ludwig Whipped My Ass (And It's Still Sore.) Oh wait, that's the movie featuring trolls posting hateful things about the people who are posting on this thread.
Sorry, TP. But what those choads were saying about Ludwig and Obdi demanded a sharp reply.
155 | Targetpractice Wed, May 25, 2011 9:59:26pm |
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
Which movie? Ludwig Whipped My Ass (And It's Still Sore.) Oh wait, that's the movie featuring trolls posting hateful things about the people who are posting on this thread.
Sorry, TP. But what those choads were saying about Ludwig and Obdi demanded a sharp reply.
MST3K: The Movie. Still as funny now as it was the first time I saw it...well, funnier, because now I actually understand most of the jokes.
156 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:00:09pm |
re: #155 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Sounds like Assisted Living Dracula. It's kinda slow at first, but once you get into it.....
157 | Targetpractice Wed, May 25, 2011 10:00:59pm |
re: #156 Guanxi88
Sounds like Assisted Living Dracula. It's kinda slow at first, but once you get into it...
Okay, enough Aqua Teen for you.
158 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 25, 2011 10:01:10pm |
re: #155 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
MST3K: The Movie. Still as funny now as it was the first time I saw it...well, funnier, because now I actually understand most of the jokes.
Cool. Glad you're enjoying it.
159 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:01:56pm |
re: #157 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Okay, enough Aqua Teen for you.
Never enough!
It's Boost! Mobile. We're making and receiving cellular phone calls.
160 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 10:02:43pm |
re: #150 Guanxi88
I think you're playing with fire, but what do I know. Things may work out for you. I'd just hate to see this end real badly.
161 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 10:03:47pm |
re: #146 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. I'm glad he apologized promptly, but that doesn't put things right, at least not right away. What he said was ugly and offensive and it won't be forgotten any time soon.
True, but he didn't dig himself in any deeper by not apologizing, or doing the 'if you were offended by what I said' routine. He followed the first rule of holes. By scuzzball pundit standards, that's pretty good.
162 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:04:11pm |
re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
Eh, everything ends, mostly badly. Besides, I think she and I both understand it'll have to be status quo or nothing; too many obstacles. We're in different states, and I've made the decision never to see her or meet with her unless and until we are both single again.
163 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 25, 2011 10:04:45pm |
re: #150 Guanxi88
No offense, Guanxi88, but I don't see this ending well. As SB said, you're playing with fire, and the odds say you'll get burned.
164 | Winny Spencer Wed, May 25, 2011 10:05:11pm |
As sincere an apology as this one is always enough for me.
Good for Ed.
165 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 25, 2011 10:06:05pm |
re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist
True, but he didn't dig himself in any deeper by not apologizing, or doing the 'if you were offended by what I said' routine. He followed the first rule of holes. By scuzzball pundit standards, that's pretty good.
I agree, entirely. What Schultz said stops the Asshole Meter. It doesn't reverse it, but it does halt it and he can reverse it in time.
166 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 10:06:27pm |
re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist
It wasn't bad. I still think he's a dick. But at least he doesn't have a years long, documented track record of saying shitty things and latter blowing it off with "Don't be such a PC wuss, it was satire". At least as far as I know, anyway. I don't follow the dude.
167 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:08:24pm |
re: #163 Dark_Falcon
We all get burnt.
Burnt Norton, anyone?
What might have been is an abstraction.....
168 | Dark_Falcon Wed, May 25, 2011 10:10:06pm |
re: #167 Guanxi88
We all get burnt.
Burnt Norton, anyone?
[Video]What might have been is an abstraction...
OK, just make sure it isn't your Norton that gets burnt. I just updated mine.
//
169 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 10:11:18pm |
re: #162 Guanxi88
I don't exactly approve, but my approval means jack shit. You're grown, and you don't require it.
Just be careful, dude. People can react emotionally and irrationally. I doubt you want to carry the tale of a murder/suicide on your back for the rest of your days.
170 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:12:06pm |
Oh, Lord! The bourbon is beating the coffee, and I'm getting maudlin.
The houses are all gone under the sea.
The dancers are all gone under the hill.
171 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, May 25, 2011 10:19:39pm |
re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth
It wasn't bad. I still think he's a dick. But at least he doesn't have a years long, documented track record of saying shitty things and latter blowing it off with "Don't be such a PC wuss, it was satire". At least as far as I know, anyway. I don't follow the dude.
My entire knowledge of Ed Schultz is that he periodically says something terrible which is then reported to me later by people seeking to defend Rush Limbaugh.
This has not let me to a good opinion of the man.
172 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:30:29pm |
There, I've recovered my sangfroid. all it took was chain-pinching some maccoboy, a pipe full of Irish Twist, and two cups of cold black coffee.
173 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 10:34:23pm |
Giants get four runs in the bottom of the ninth...we go to extra innings.
174 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 10:35:31pm |
re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm not big on calling women sluts just because you disagree with them or their point of view. So yeah, I have a low opinion of the guy now.
I'm also not a fan of "slut shaming". I think it sucks, and that it's the last resort of men with small minds, small dicks, and women who are bitter and jealous.
On that note, for the second time today, I link thusly:
NO SHAME!
Go getchya some!
175 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 10:36:39pm |
re: #172 Guanxi88
Now, back to the bourbon. Roller-coaster that shit, man!!!
/more bad advice from The Behemoth
176 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 10:39:12pm |
We had seven tornados today in northern California...tiny little fuckers - not like the midwest gets - but it's rare to get one tornado here, let alone seven of the goddamn things.
177 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:40:51pm |
re: #175 Slumbering Behemoth
Now, back to the bourbon. Roller-coaster that shit, man!!!
/more bad advice from The Behemoth
That's just what I'm doing, sir!
Aristotle, in his Poetics (can you see why some people, especially the intellectual types, just can't get enough of me when I'm drunk?) argues that the purpose of tragedy is to arouse and then discharge the feelings of pity and terror. A sort of mental hygiene, necessary to the health of the kaloskagathos, and therefore to the well-being of the city.
Me? I use booze, coffee, and poetry to achieve much the same effect.
178 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 10:42:02pm |
re: #176 darthstar
We had seven tornados today in northern California...tiny little fuckers - not like the midwest gets - but it's rare to get one tornado here, let alone seven of the goddamn things.
What kind of ghey thing did you guys do this time?
/
179 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 10:45:05pm |
re: #177 Guanxi88
For me, it's booze, cigarettes, coffee, and video games.
I used to have worse stuff in the rotation, but thankfully I have left those things behind.
180 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 10:45:50pm |
re: #178 Slumbering Behemoth
What kind of ghey thing did you guys do this time?
/
Argyle socks, I'm guessing.
181 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:46:22pm |
re: #179 Slumbering Behemoth
Gotta have the nicotine in there. I sniff the snuff and smoke my pipe when I need a good solid jolt (and nothing hits harder than Irish Twist tobacco, by the way. Never smoke it on an empty stomach, or you'll be sick as a dog.)
182 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:50:14pm |
Back in my university days, one of my roommates did a multi-media/spoken word thing based on my drunken rants, recorded over the course of many, many months. I saw the thing when it was done - very slick, very professional - and was shocked by what was on the screen.
Is that really how I am when I'm drunk?
Yep.
Damn! I'm kinda cool when I'm loaded.
No, you're kinda dark, and people like that.
Oh.
183 | darthstar Wed, May 25, 2011 10:50:18pm |
re: #181 Guanxi88
Gotta have the nicotine in there. I sniff the snuff and smoke my pipe when I need a good solid jolt (and nothing hits harder than Irish Twist tobacco, by the way. Never smoke it on an empty stomach, or you'll be sick as a dog.)
I quit chewing tobacco (hopefully for the last time) two weeks before our last software release...tough time to kick the habit. I still miss it (been a little over three months) but whenever I get the craving I just tell myself I really don't want to get back into it. I'll smoke pot again - that's a given - but only at concerts, friends' houses, church, or wherever else it seems appropriate. Don't buy it anymore, but am not averse to the stuff.
184 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 10:52:07pm |
re: #183 darthstar
I quit chewing tobacco (hopefully for the last time) two weeks before our last software release...tough time to kick the habit. I still miss it (been a little over three months) but whenever I get the craving I just tell myself I really don't want to get back into it. I'll smoke pot again - that's a given - but only at concerts, friends' houses, church, or wherever else it seems appropriate. Don't buy it anymore, but am not averse to the stuff.
Whatever it takes to get you through the night - or the day, for that matter. As I've aged, I am become far more tolerant of people's foibles and habits and preferences than when I was younger. Seems to me this is wisdom.
185 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:00:53pm |
Lord help me, but the lady just wrote me.
I'm going to need a moment.
186 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:02:58pm |
re: #184 Guanxi88
Seems to me this is wisdom.
Nah, it's just a form of age related dementia known as "Commiefaecius Liberalitis". The only know treatment is regular, heavy doses of Rushcontin.
187 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:05:07pm |
Yeah, I'm gonna get a drink and smoke my pipe.
188 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:21:42pm |
Nessun maggior dolore
Che ricordarsi del tempo felice
Nella miseria.
Can't remember where, but it's from the Inferno. "There is no greater sadness than to recall happy times amid misery"
191 | Mocking Jay Wed, May 25, 2011 11:32:18pm |
192 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:33:25pm |
CAlling Laura Ingram a Right Wing Slut just doesn't have the same effect as calling Jane Curtain an Ignorant Slut.
If he was going for humor, he is about 40 years behind the times.
Which is par for the course with some of these wing-nuts.
193 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:34:35pm |
re: #190 Guanxi88
Yep, I am, anyway.
I got the yuckky virus that is going around the Chicagoland area --sinus infection, throat, chest--life sucks right now.
It is bad for about 2 days.
You?
194 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:35:39pm |
195 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:38:44pm |
re: #193 ggt
I got the yuckky virus that is going around the Chicagoland area --sinus infection, throat, chest--life sucks right now.
It is bad for about 2 days.
You?
Haven't enjoyed such rude good health in many a year - hell, I weigh less now than when I was in high school, haven't had so much as a cold in ages, etc., etc.
196 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:39:34pm |
197 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:40:54pm |
re: #195 Guanxi88
Haven't enjoyed such rude good health in many a year - hell, I weigh less now than when I was in high school, haven't had so much as a cold in ages, etc., etc.
I had that last year.
198 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:40:59pm |
re: #196 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, but at least you have your hea... err, never mind.
In one of his Essays, Woody Allen points out - correctly that wealth is better than health "if only for financial reasons."
He argues that you cannot go to the deli and say "Look at this healthy tan, and I haven't had a cold in years. Give me a pound of pastrami."
he makes a good case.
199 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:42:48pm |
re: #198 Guanxi88
I'd prefer perfect health to perfect wealth, but he does make a damn solid argument there.
200 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:43:53pm |
With perfect weatlh a person could pay someone else to go the deli and get the pastrami, make the sandwich and serve it on a silver platter.
Much easier.
201 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:44:24pm |
Feeling more than a little like WP Mayhew just now:
Gone are the days
When my heart was young and gay.
The truth, my honey, is a tart that does not bear scrutiny. Breach my levee at your peril!
202 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:44:59pm |
gone are the days when my joints didn't hurt when moved . . . .
203 | AK-47% Wed, May 25, 2011 11:45:48pm |
re: #198 Guanxi88
In one of his Essays, Woody Allen points out - correctly that wealth is better than health "if only for financial reasons."
He argues that you cannot go to the deli and say "Look at this healthy tan, and I haven't had a cold in years. Give me a pound of pastrami."
he makes a good case.
Woody Allen cannot do it, but how many people get by with the approach of going up to a rich old guy and saying "Take a look at these abs/these boobs/this tight a**. I am HIV and STD- negative. Now pay my rent" ?
204 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:46:03pm |
It's my body and I'll complain if I want to.
205 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:49:08pm |
re: #203 ralphieboy
Woody Allen cannot do it, but how many people get by with the approach of going up to a rich old guy and saying "Take a look at these abs/these boobs/this tight a**. I am HIV and STD- negative. Now pay my rent" ?
I tried that once. The person I tried that on insisted that men should not have boobs. Oh well.
206 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:49:19pm |
back in my grand productive days, you might have seen me more or less like this:
[Link: clip.ly...]
A little social lubricant, Mr. Fink?
207 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:51:24pm |
re: #200 ggt
You make a good case as well. I would just prefer feeling good to getting served. I may just take Freetoken's advice and get back to exercising.
208 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:52:29pm |
re: #191 JasonA
Sounds like you need a double...
I;ve been drinking at a steady clip for about 4 hours now. I find it is helpful.
209 | AK-47% Wed, May 25, 2011 11:53:19pm |
re: #205 Slumbering Behemoth
I need to be more specific:
guys offer abs and a**, girls offer boobs and a**.
210 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:55:05pm |
re: #209 ralphieboy
Then I have nothing to offer but witty banter.
Meh, who am I kidding? I have nothing to offer.
211 | Eclectic Infidel Wed, May 25, 2011 11:55:49pm |
re: #178 Slumbering Behemoth
What kind of ghey thing did you guys do this time?
/
Must be retaliation for the Duboce Park "Hunky Jesus" competition this past easter.
212 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:56:16pm |
re: #210 Slumbering Behemoth
It's not so bad; I've been living like that for years.
fake it until you can make it.
213 | AK-47% Wed, May 25, 2011 11:56:34pm |
re: #210 Slumbering Behemoth
Then I have nothing to offer but witty banter.
Meh, who am I kidding? I have nothing to offer.
Can you carry luggage and discuss the holy scrptures?
214 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:57:08pm |
re: #207 Slumbering Behemoth
You make a good case as well. I would just prefer feeling good to getting served. I may just take Freetoken's advice and get back to exercising.
Regular cardio has a analgesic effect, but the knees still hurt.
215 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:57:29pm |
re: #213 ralphieboy
Not if your life depended on it!
216 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:57:32pm |
re: #213 ralphieboy
Can you carry luggage and discuss the holy scrptures?
How about just carry luggage?
217 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:58:35pm |
I can't carry luggage.
Mine have wheels.
218 | Guanxi88 Wed, May 25, 2011 11:59:02pm |
(Pours a double bourbon, hoisting his glass)
Gentlemen, a toast:
To our wives and sweethearts, to those special ladies who make life worth living.
May they never meet.
Thank you, thank you.
Joey Bishop, ladies and gentlemen.
219 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, May 25, 2011 11:59:06pm |
re: #214 ggt
I read something recently that said ginger is good for that. I'm not given to woo woo health food trends, but some of that advice is good advice. Who knows?
220 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, May 25, 2011 11:59:37pm |
re: #219 Slumbering Behemoth
I read something recently that said ginger is good for that. I'm not given to woo woo health food trends, but some of that advice is good advice. Who knows?
ginger is good for digestion.
and soda.
221 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:00:19am |
222 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 12:02:39am |
re: #219 Slumbering Behemoth
I read something recently that said ginger is good for that. I'm not given to woo woo health food trends, but some of that advice is good advice. Who knows?
My cure-all Chinese-Jewish remedy: chicken soup with lots of ginger, garlic, chili and coriander.
223 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:03:19am |
re: #222 ralphieboy
My cure-all Chinese-Jewish remedy: chicken soup with lots of ginger, garlic, chili and coriander.
(fakes a cough)
I could maybe use some?
224 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 12:04:06am |
re: #222 ralphieboy
My cure-all Chinese-Jewish remedy: chicken soup with lots of ginger, garlic, chili and coriander.
China did take Jewish refugees fleeing Hitler.
So, it is a plausible soup.
225 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:05:32am |
re: #224 ggt
China did take Jewish refugees fleeing Hitler.
So, it is a plausible soup.
I had a great uncle who was stuck in Shanghai for precisely that reason. Ended up interred by the japanese until the end of the war. Quite a surprise to the family, getting a cable from Tokyo seeking confirmation of his identity
227 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 26, 2011 12:05:53am |
re: #222 ralphieboy
I like the hot and sour soup. Must be eaten at peak hotness, though. It loses it's appeal the closer it comes to room temperature.
228 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 12:06:33am |
re: #225 Guanxi88
I had a great uncle who was stuck in Shanghai for precisely that reason. Ended up interred by the japanese until the end of the war. Quite a surprise to the family, getting a cable from Tokyo seeking confirmation of his identity
interred or interned?
229 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:07:05am |
230 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:07:44am |
re: #227 Slumbering Behemoth
It loses it's appeal the closer it comes to room temperature.
True of soup, and of people.
231 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 12:08:08am |
re: #229 Guanxi88
I;m drunk - whichever one works. They locked him up.
Yeah, I figured. I believe you meant interned.
Interred is something entirely different. Well, sort of different.
232 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 12:08:46am |
233 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:08:52am |
re: #231 ggt
Yeah, I figured. I believe you meant interned.
Interred is something entirely different. Well, sort of different.
Depends. The Empire of the Sun - well, one was about the same as the other.
234 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:09:59am |
re: #232 ggt
Better to be interred at room temperature or below.
Smartass!
Why don't you mix me a grain alcohol and rainwater and pour yourself whatever you'd like.
235 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 12:10:55am |
re: #234 Guanxi88
Smartass!
Why don't you mix me a grain alcohol and rainwater and pour yourself whatever you'd like.
I couldn't resist.
It's late, I have a fever.
236 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 26, 2011 12:10:59am |
re: #230 Guanxi88
Oh dude. You do get dark as you drink. So far, not in a bad way.
237 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:13:23am |
re: #236 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh dude. You do get dark as you drink. So far, not in a bad way.
Eh, I self-edit quite a bit. Typing becomes more and more difficult the more and more I wish to say; to that extent, I am grateful for the loss of coordination that accompanies my catharsis.
But let me get full up tot he back teeth with the right stuff, and turn me loose in a room full of people, and it can get really interesting.
238 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 26, 2011 12:16:17am |
re: #230 Guanxi88
But anyway, regarding hot and sour soup. I've never had another soup where I could start eating it and think "Man, this is the best soup I've ever had" while it's piping hot, then as it got colder I found myself thinking "WTF just happened here? This tastes like crap"?
Maybe it's just me.
239 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:18:41am |
re: #237 Guanxi88
Case in point - I once got absolutely hammered - I'm talking about "driving-dodi-and-di" levels of intoxication - and somehow or other found myself at a fraternity party, chatting up a really nice looking young lady (well, female, anyway).
She says to me : "You're kinda overdressed for this place aren't you?" (I used to be a Brooks Brothers trooper)
I: "Well, I suppose perhaps I am, but then, one always want to look one's best for occasions such as this."
She: "What occasion is that?"
I: "well, I mean to say, after a full night's drinking, there's always a chance I'll end up dead or laid. If I'm dead, I wanna be ready for the funeral, and if I get laid, I don't want to look like a slob, now do I?"
241 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 26, 2011 12:19:08am |
re: #237 Guanxi88
But let me get full up tot he back teeth with the right stuff, and turn me loose in a room full of people, and it can get really interesting.
Were I to be around for such an occasion, know this: I'm gonna hide your coffee cup, just for the laughs.
242 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:21:33am |
re: #241 Slumbering Behemoth
Coffee is the key - I used to pound espresso and booze. either one by itself, and I was either a jittery yweeky wreck or a sobbing (or, occasionally, vicious) drunk. But the two together, and I could possibly be a good time, but I bore watching, in any event.
Take away the coffee, and it's bound to get ugly.
As was said of me once at a party where I collapsed in the middle of a sentence after putting down a fifth of bourbon while talking to the other guests "Dude, I think he's dead."
243 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:24:03am |
re: #242 Guanxi88
"You know, the French are like the weather. Everybody complains about them, but nobody ever does anything about the problem." - Said to a French student at his house party. I swiped his gin and cigarettes before he heaved me out on my ear.
245 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:27:29am |
Said to another young woman at another party - she was sorta expressing interest in me, messing with my tie and other such flirtatious behavior:
What the hell is the matter with you? Are you THAT drunk? Jesus, woman, take a look at me; do you think my standards are so low that I'd sleep with any woman who'd want to sleep with me?
246 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:29:34am |
Needless to say, my manner was not uniformly pleasing in those days. But I did have my fans.
247 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 12:29:59am |
re: #242 Guanxi88
Russians do something like that: party all night on vodka and black tea. Plus some high-fat snacks in between.
248 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:32:28am |
re: #247 ralphieboy
Hell, I used to live in a Russian neighborhood. I know better than to drink with those maniacs.
Once went carousing (drunk-walking, I called it) and somehow fell in with a group of Irish students. Damned fine time. I woke up the next morning in a house full of people who had no idea who I was. In another town; the next county over.
249 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, May 26, 2011 12:34:17am |
Senior Citizens driving on South Park. Gotta go.
Peace out, Lizards.
250 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 12:34:51am |
re: #248 Guanxi88
I lived in a neighborhood on Moscow. The trick is to drink the vodka straight, the tea without sugar, and stuff a bit of sausage or fish in your face inbetween.
251 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:36:44am |
re: #250 ralphieboy
I lived in a neighborhood on Moscow. The trick is to drink the vodka straight, the tea without sugar, and stuff a bit of sausage or fish in your face inbetween.
Yeah, there were some young women who used to do stuff like that.
(heheheheheh)
252 | Amory Blaine Thu, May 26, 2011 12:39:02am |
Arizona cops shoot innocent marine 60 times in botched drug raid.
253 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 12:39:23am |
re: #251 Guanxi88
Had this girlfriend in Moscow, a half-Tatar, named Galina Gaidarovna Fetkhetdinovna. She told me that her surname means "The Triumph of islam" in Tatar.
All I could say was "Geeeeeeeee-had, baby!"
254 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:41:41am |
re: #253 ralphieboy
Had this girlfriend in Moscow, a half-Tatar, named Galina Gaidarovna Fetkhetdinovna. She told me that her surname means "The Triumph of islam" in Tatar.
All I could say was "Geee-had, baby!"
Used to know this Uzbek girl - stunning. She could cause traffic accidents just walking on the sidewalk. Gorgeous, but her father - hell, I was afraid of his mustache.
255 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 12:42:26am |
re: #252 Amory Blaine
Arizonas want Law and Order, but they also want Low Taxes. Sheriffs Dupnik and Arpaio are the natural outcome of this unfortunate combination.
256 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 12:48:19am |
re: #192 ggt
CAlling Laura Ingram a Right Wing Slut just doesn't have the same effect as calling Jane Curtain an Ignorant Slut.
If he was going for humor, he is about 40 years behind the times.
Which is par for the course with some of these wing-nuts.
Shultz misses the comic effect Dan Ackroyd had, for sure.
257 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:50:34am |
re: #256 SanFranciscoZionist
Shultz misses the comic effect Dan Ackroyd had, for sure.
Ah, Mr. Aykroyd - another neurodiverse, as they like to call them. Love the guy.
258 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 12:50:58am |
re: #219 Slumbering Behemoth
I read something recently that said ginger is good for that. I'm not given to woo woo health food trends, but some of that advice is good advice. Who knows?
Ginger is generally good for you.
Also, it tastes nice.
What's really nice is a cup of tea made with a black tea bag and a ginger tea bag. A nice little bite. Sugar optional.
259 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 12:51:23am |
re: #222 ralphieboy
My cure-all Chinese-Jewish remedy: chicken soup with lots of ginger, garlic, chili and coriander.
That'll cure anything, or at least make you feel better while you die.
260 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 12:51:55am |
re: #224 ggt
China did take Jewish refugees fleeing Hitler.
So, it is a plausible soup.
My old synagogue was started in Shanghai, then everyone came to San Francisco.
261 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:51:56am |
re: #259 SanFranciscoZionist
That'll cure anything, or at least make you feel better while you die.
Life is a terminal condition; consequently, all treatments are purely symptomatic.
263 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:52:40am |
re: #260 SanFranciscoZionist
My old synagogue was started in Shanghai, then everyone came to San Francisco.
Great! Now, I've got Orson Welles yammering away in my head.
Thank you, SFZ.
"...a deliberate, intentional fool...."
264 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 12:54:23am |
re: #231 ggt
Yeah, I figured. I believe you meant interned.
Interred is something entirely different. Well, sort of different.
More permanent, often.
Friend of mine is Filipino, from a family of five. All the kids have names starting with "D" except the second child, Judy. Judy was named in honor of St. Jude. The deal was, if my friend's father survived being held in prison by the Japanese, the baby would be named for Jude, the saint of lost causes.
Pop was eighty-five pounds when he got home, but he did get home.
265 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 12:55:07am |
re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth
But anyway, regarding hot and sour soup. I've never had another soup where I could start eating it and think "Man, this is the best soup I've ever had" while it's piping hot, then as it got colder I found myself thinking "WTF just happened here? This tastes like crap"?
Maybe it's just me.
It starts to gel as it gets colder. And the flavors do something weird.
266 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:55:10am |
267 | freetoken Thu, May 26, 2011 12:57:44am |
re: #266 Guanxi88
I was just watching the 1982 BBC interview with Welles, about an hour ago, and they close the first part with Dietrich's final scene.
It's a small world.
268 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 12:58:38am |
re: #267 freetoken
I was just watching the 1982 BBC interview with Welles, about an hour ago, and they close the first part with Dietrich's final scene.
It's a small world.
Those last few scenes with her - Hell, the whole rest of the movie could be lost forever, and just those few minutes would be enough.
269 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:07:37am |
I fired my neurotherapist last month. the Bitter Half had been compelling me to seek "treatment" for my unusual condition, much against my will ("I'm quirky, not crazy.").
Son of a bitch said of me "You're a remarkable case; you've managed to build an entire inner life for yourself out of literature, music, and film, and can actually 'pass' for a normal person. I think you might even believe that this mimickry of yours is in fact your emotional life."
I ask what he means by that.
"Well, because of your condition, your real emotional responses are muted or inappropriate, or absent altogether. Now, you know that's not how people are supposed to be, and so you've learned to mimic normal behaviors. You've done it so long, and so well, that you've fooled everybody, including yourself."
So what you mean is that I can fool most people who aren't experts? Then I'm cured, aren't I?
And with that, I fired him.
270 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 1:16:27am |
re: #269 Guanxi88
I fired my neurotherapist last month. the Bitter Half had been compelling me to seek "treatment" for my unusual condition, much against my will ("I'm quirky, not crazy.").
Son of a bitch said of me "You're a remarkable case; you've managed to build an entire inner life for yourself out of literature, music, and film, and can actually 'pass' for a normal person. I think you might even believe that this mimickry of yours is in fact your emotional life."
I ask what he means by that.
"Well, because of your condition, your real emotional responses are muted or inappropriate, or absent altogether. Now, you know that's not how people are supposed to be, and so you've learned to mimic normal behaviors. You've done it so long, and so well, that you've fooled everybody, including yourself."
So what you mean is that I can fool most people who aren't experts? Then I'm cured, aren't I?
And with that, I fired him.
The lightbulb must first want to change.
271 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:19:24am |
re: #270 SanFranciscoZionist
The lightbulb must first want to change.
Bingo. And me - I've made peace with being a blacklight.
Honestly, though, I told him the whole thing sounded like an Emperor's New Clothes scam.
272 | freetoken Thu, May 26, 2011 1:20:45am |
re: #271 Guanxi88
Bingo. And me - I've made peace with being a blacklight.
So, you give off ultra-violet light... oh wait... that means you're... you are an INDIGO CHILD!!
273 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:22:24am |
re: #272 freetoken
So, you give off ultra-violet light... oh wait... that means you're... you are an INDIGO CHILD!!
Look, you seem like a good egg. Don't let's start with that nonsense.
:)
It's a condition - over-diagnosed, but real nonetheless - and it's not an ideal way to be. You can either try to fix it, or live with it, if you can.
274 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 1:22:49am |
re: #245 Guanxi88
Said to another young woman at another party - she was sorta expressing interest in me, messing with my tie and other such flirtatious behavior:
What the hell is the matter with you? Are you THAT drunk? Jesus, woman, take a look at me; do you think my standards are so low that I'd sleep with any woman who'd want to sleep with me?
"I wouldn't join any country club that would have me as a member!"
-Groucho Marx
275 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:23:53am |
re: #274 ralphieboy
"I wouldn't join any country club that would have me as a member!"
-Groucho Marx
Something like that, only thrown in another person's face.
VERY ugly example of self-loathing expanding in its scope to include others; a specialty of mine.
276 | freetoken Thu, May 26, 2011 1:26:22am |
re: #273 Guanxi88
It's a condition - ....
Heh, all I know is that you like to drink while contemplating philosophy, which puts you in some fine company, historically speaking.
277 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:31:57am |
re: #276 freetoken
Heh, all I know is that you like to drink while contemplating philosophy, which puts you in some fine company, historically speaking.
I've got a personality that can be described - generously - as a disorder.
Want a taste of what it's like? Here's one.
Had an unrequited long-term thing going with a lady. I knew I wasn't in her league, but tortured myself by taking her out and about in my capacity as close trusted friend.
So, she's having me vet one of her prospective boyfriends. (And can you imagine what doing that is like?) He's got good lucks, plenty of cash, and comes from a good family. Worse, he's a really decent guy. Whatever slim chances I have are evaporating right in front of me as the three of us belly up to the bar.
He excuses himself to go to the men's room when a booth opens. I say I'll settle the bill, and have the lady to go to the booth to hold it for us. I call the barkeep over. "It's none of our business, the lady and I, but you see that guy?" I jerked my head, discreetly, toward the back of Galahad as he walked toward the head. "He's been stealing tips off the bar."
they dragged him outta the men's room and threw him out so hard he bounced. Needless to say, having caused such a scene, he lost favor in her eyes.
Like that.
278 | freetoken Thu, May 26, 2011 1:32:56am |
So, I'm reading a Christian forum that is bemoaning the foolishness of Harold Camping, all the while arguing whether the "Temple" spoken about in the NT, which the Jews are (according to some of the posters) supposed to build (in their un-Christian way), which is then supposed to be inhabited by the "man of sin" (which leads to all of them being wiped out), is really a physical structure in what is today on the hill that is on current Israel's border (in the divided Jerusalem), or if all those references to "Temple" refer to the human body.
I wonder if pots and kettles can ever experience self-realizations, or if they can only know about the other kitchen appliances?
279 | freetoken Thu, May 26, 2011 1:36:33am |
280 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:38:02am |
re: #279 freetoken
Remind me to never introduce you the female objects of my desire.
As I've told my wife many, many times: if you think living with me is hard, try being me, and having to live with yourself.
281 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:39:26am |
re: #279 freetoken
Remind me to never introduce you the female objects of my desire.
Eh, these days, I'm not looking to add to my collection. You're safe.
282 | Guanxi88 Thu, May 26, 2011 1:42:01am |
Before I got married, and excluding the aforementioned unrequited one there (which went on for about five years), my longest-term relationship was with a young lady who said of me once "You know, you're a genuinely decent guy, but you're not really fully human. You should warn any future girlfriends about that."
283 | thecommodore Thu, May 26, 2011 1:42:48am |
re: #1 darthstar
It was a good apology. Sincere. Showed a bit of class after a classless act. Any bets on whether Ingraham accepts it graciously? Or does she have it in her?
I agree completely. I liked him when I first heard him in the early Air America days, but in recent years he's become more combative and obnoxious, and it hard to watch or listen to. This is a good first step for him, but he has a few more to go.
284 | freetoken Thu, May 26, 2011 2:03:09am |
285 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 2:15:04am |
It can mean only one thing: the Ring has not yet been destroyed!!!
287 | laZardo Thu, May 26, 2011 2:32:57am |
Also good news. Managed to get a 160GB Samsung that fits the Parallel ATA port off a local website for P800 off eBay's price and had it delivered here a few minutes ago.
288 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 2:41:24am |
re: #287 laZardo
Good jorb.
One of my laptops has developed a problem recharging. I hate problems with laptops, 'cuz I can't fix them myself.
292 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:06:31am |
Ugh. This sucks:
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
As a result of Indiana's privatization of its Family & Social Services Administration, widely viewed as a boondoggle in favor of contractor IBM, a woman says her adult schizophrenic son was kicked off Medicaid. With no medication, she says, "his voices told him to gouge out her eyes, and he did."
In her claim against Indiana and IBM, which took over the state social services agency on a $1.3 billion contract, she says her son was kicked off medical coverage despite her repeated submissions of all the documents requested. With no help and no medication for her son, he acted against her.
This has been one of the most fucked-up privatizations in the history of government.
Indiana's privatization of its FSSA system led to three giant lawsuits, and several minor ones. Indiana and IBM filed dueling lawsuits against each other in May 2010, the state claiming that IBM had bungled its installation so badly that it would cost taxpayers "hundreds of millions of dollars." IBM countersued for breach of contract.
"FSSA was left with virtually nothing of value from IBM's failed performance, and indeed is now faced with expending hundreds of millions of dollars in reprogramming and eventually entirely replacing IBM's failed systems," the state claimed, as Courthouse News reported at the time.
Indiana added that IBM's performance was so bad it led to numerous civil lawsuits against the state.
In April this year, Medicaid recipients filed a class action against IBM and subcontractors, claiming thousands of people were denied coverage or suffered lapses in coverage because IBM screwed up its installation so badly that the state fired it 7 years early from its $1.3 billion contract.
293 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:11:29am |
re: #292 Obdicut
Government boondoggle vs private sector efficiency?
294 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:11:37am |
And the Wisconsin Republicans aren't finished digging that hole for themselves:
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
A Republican Assemblyman this week introduced an immigration bill that will require residents to carry identification. Failure to do so would allow police to arrest and hold them for 48 hours if officers have a "reasonable suspicion" that the person is undocumented.
If proof of legal presence in Wisconsin is not provided within that time, the person is to be sent to a federal jail for deportation.
295 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:12:59am |
re: #293 ralphieboy
It's a mutual fuckup, and it may be one of the reasons Mitch Daniels isn't running for president. Whenever the government decides to privatize something that really shouldn't be privatized, that's a failure on the part of government.
The subsequent failure of the private entity sucks and is terrible, but the government should have never passed on responsibility like that in the first place.
296 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 26, 2011 4:15:54am |
re: #292 Obdicut
Ugh. This sucks:
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
This has been one of the most fucked-up privatizations in the history of government.
There is no other kind.
Privatization has always caused an increase in cost and a decrease in performance. Every time I hear a Republican talking about privatization, I know things are about to get worse.
297 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:18:34am |
re: #294 Obdicut
If we were all required to carry identification (as residents have to do here in Germany) and present it whenever we register a car, open a bank account, rent an apartment, enrol a child in school, etc, things would look a lot different regarding illegal immigration.
And they would not have to detain you and deport you, either.
298 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:20:45am |
re: #297 ralphieboy
You do have to provide ID to register a car, open a bank account, and rent an apartment. I think you do to enroll a child in school.
Why do you think otherwise?
299 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 4:21:26am |
re: #297 ralphieboy
In Florida, if a cop ask you for ID (with probable cause to) and you don't have one, I'm pretty sure they can detain you until they know who you are.(someone brings your ID, etc)
300 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:22:34am |
re: #296 wlewisiii
Privatization has always caused an increase in cost and a decrease in performance.
What a weird statement. You are saying that every industry sector should be nationalized and private property be abolished in order to reduce costs and increase performance?
301 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:23:47am |
re: #298 Obdicut
You need to present a SS card or a driver's license, but they are not necessarily proof of legal residence.
302 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:25:14am |
re: #297 ralphieboy
There one crucial difference here is that in Germany you are legally obligated to have identification ("Ausweispflicht"). In the US, while it's very impractical, you technically can do without.
303 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:25:29am |
re: #300 000G
Don't overhyperbolize. America as a rule only nationalizes those things that the private sector cannot handle efficiently or fairly. When we start privatizing those aspects, it is a sign that we have gone too far with it.
304 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:26:06am |
re: #301 ralphieboy
You need to present a SS card or a driver's license, but they are not necessarily proof of legal residence.
Oh. So you don't mean 'identification', you mean 'proof of legal residence'.
305 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:26:12am |
re: #301 ralphieboy
You need to present a SS card or a driver's license, but they are not necessarily proof of legal residence.
Errrr... I am pretty sure driver's licenses are tied to residence. I know of people who had to get re-registered at the DMV when they moved between states.
306 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:27:05am |
re: #303 ralphieboy
Don't overhyperbolize. America as a rule only nationalizes those things that the private sector cannot handle efficiently or fairly. When we start privatizing those aspects, it is a sign that we have gone too far with it.
I was specifically replying to wlewisiii's argument, not to "America as a rule". Also, "overhyperbolize" is a pleonasm.
307 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:27:20am |
re: #302 000G
I got a friendly letter from the local authorities (where I am a registered legal resident alien) reminding me that my US passport was about to expire and that I needed to renew it, as I was not allowed to stay without a valid passport.
Good thing, I prbably woulda forgot about it and found myself trying to board a flight somewhere with an outdated passport...
308 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:27:35am |
re: #304 Obdicut
Oh. So you don't mean 'identification', you mean 'proof of legal residence'.
In Germany, it is one and the same, hence his confusion.
309 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:27:52am |
re: #305 000G
Yeah. Whether or not anyone who is here improperly can get a drivers license is decided on a state-by-state basis. I'm not sure where it is legal at the moment.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
310 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:28:12am |
re: #306 000G
I was specifically replying to wlewisiii's argument, not to "America as a rule". Also, "overhyperbolize" is a pleonasm.
I am feeling pleonsatsy today.
311 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 4:28:39am |
re: #305 000G
Errr... I am pretty sure driver's licenses are tied to residence. I know of people who had to get re-registered at the DMV when they moved between states.
You're supposed to hold a driver's license issued by the state where you live, but it's not stringently enforced. Some of my kids still hold Michigan driver's licenses even though they have lived out of state for years.
312 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:30:13am |
re: #308 000G
In Germany, it is one and the same, hence his confusion.
The solution to illegal immigration is never going to be rounding up people on the street and deporting them, nor will it be making it harder for them to go about things legally. It's always easy to get someone else to rent the apartment for you, register the car for you, etc. etc.
A solution to the 'problem' of illegal immigration has to be a policy one, not a law enforcement one.
313 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 4:30:17am |
Flood warnings all over the place this morning, but at least the roadways are not covered in water like they were yesterday when I was driving home.
314 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 4:30:31am |
re: #309 Obdicut
Many illegals here were driving to North Carolina to get DL's years ago. (people I worked with) A friend of mine had a "business permit only" DL from Florida, moved to Maryland and got a regular one. A Florida BPO means driving only to work, church, store, etc.
315 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:32:23am |
re: #312 Obdicut
A solution to the 'problem' of illegal immigration has to be a policy one, not a law enforcement one.
This is exactly my objection to Arizona's immigration bill and all the other similar ones being proposed.
316 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 26, 2011 4:34:28am |
re: #300 000G
What a weird statement. You are saying that every industry sector should be nationalized and private property be abolished in order to reduce costs and increase performance?
There are things that business does well - but government is not business. I do not expect government to produce steel, for example, but I do expect it to run welfare since, historically, business and private charity has repeatedly proven to be incapable of dealing with the needs of people.
We get told how glorious "deregulation" and "privatization" are but yet, all that ever happens is costs go up and performance goes down. They just "deregulated" the telecom industry here and my phone bill will soon increase. Likewise they want to "privatize" welfare so that much money can be skimmed off the top because those lazy poor folks don't really need it. The same is true of the efforts to destroy Medicare/Medicaid; all that's missing is that even they know admitting they just want, ala Rand, the old people to go off and die cheaply is political suicide.
317 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:38:12am |
re: #316 wlewisiii
California was promised deregulation of energy would lead to cheaper prices.
It led to blackouts, soaring prices, and Enron.
Yay.
318 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:38:28am |
re: #316 wlewisiii
There are things that business does well - but government is not business. I do not expect government to produce steel, for example, but I do expect it to run welfare since, historically, business and private charity has repeatedly proven to be incapable of dealing with the needs of people.
I was not arguing what business does well or not, I was arguing your argument which held that
[p]rivatization has always caused an increase in cost and a decrease in performance.
So you would have to at least conclude that all businesses which the government at some point decides to nationalize (e.g. for welfare reasons, like in Venezuela or Cuba) should henceforth never be privatized again because that would result in an increase in costs and a decrease in performance. Thus, I found that to be a very weird statement of yours.
319 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 4:39:54am |
re: #317 Obdicut
California was promised deregulation of energy would lead to cheaper prices.
It led to blackouts, soaring prices, and Enron.
Yay.
Ever see the movie "The smartest kid in the Room"? My old boss talked about it. I guess the story was about deregulation in Cali and W and his friends.
320 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:40:02am |
re: #318 000G
It was pretty clear to me that wle was talking about privatisation of existing, established government programs. We are not here to pick nits.
321 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:40:59am |
re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yep. My wife watched it the other day; I caught most of it. I knew most of it already.
Enron traders talking to each other, openly acknowledging that they were stealing money, that they were shutting down plants just to make the price of energy go up. So shameful, so ridiculously, banally evil.
322 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:42:18am |
re: #321 Obdicut
I remember Rush blaming it all on "environmental whackos" who opposed construction of new power plants.
323 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:43:06am |
re: #320 ralphieboy
It was pretty clear to me that wle was talking about privatisation of existing, established government programs. We are not here to pick nits.
Existing, established government programs differ in different states, different municipalities and over time. At some point they get established, at some point they get abolished. It's contingent.
I find blanket statements like "all privatization is bad" as silly as "all privatization is good", quite frankly.
324 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:45:14am |
re: #323 000G
A lot of Free Market advocates like to overlook Adam Smith's other statement that "markets are here to serve the people, peole are not here to serve the markets."
That is the standard by which we should judge the merit of privatization vs. nationalization: if the market can handle it to everyone's benefit, then let them at it.
325 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:45:23am |
re: #323 000G
Existing, established government programs differ in different states, different municipalities and over time. At some point they get established, at some point they get abolished. It's contingent.
I find blanket statements like "all privatization is bad" as silly as "all privatization is good", quite frankly.
Can you cite a time where privatization has worked out fine and dandy?
I'm sure there are cases. I just don't know of any. Obviously, the problematic ones more often get reported on.
Privatization of anything that does not admit the profit motive is unlikely to ever produce a benefit.
326 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:46:17am |
We sometimes let the Unseen Hand smack us upside the head...
327 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:46:49am |
re: #324 ralphieboy
That is the standard by which we should judge the merit of privatization vs. nationalization: if the market can handle it to everyone's benefit, then let them at it.
That's a circular argument, though, because with that you argue that a market should basically fulfill the function of welfare.
328 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:48:22am |
re: #327 000G
They should work to benefit everyone: you know, the unseen hand thing, balancing supply and demand, optimizing the flow of capital to where it is most effective. That is not welfare.
329 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 26, 2011 4:50:01am |
re: #323 000G
Existing, established government programs differ in different states, different municipalities and over time. At some point they get established, at some point they get abolished. It's contingent.
I find blanket statements like "all privatization is bad" as silly as "all privatization is good", quite frankly.
Ok, I see.
How about "I have never, in my experience, encountered a privatization program that was good"? That should leave sufficient wiggle room to allow for the fantasy that a good one exists.
(Kinda like "teaching the controversy"?)
330 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:51:57am |
re: #325 Obdicut
Can you cite a time where privatization has worked out fine and dandy?
"Fine and dandy" is a pretty loopy term to argue these points. Without welfare, there is always going to be some who lose out. That doesn't make all welfare desirable. Without going into contextual detail of history, technological progress, legal circumstances and all, you end up just pushing ideological stances without substance.
The former Eastern Bloc states are examples of privatization that has been horrible in some cases (especially energy industry, where the states have often backpedaled and re-nationalized) but benefitial in others. It's unfair to look at these cases, though, and disregard the decades of government mismanagement, corruption and outright fraud that preceded the collapse of the Soviet Union and badly damaged a lot of industries.
331 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:52:44am |
re: #328 ralphieboy
They should work to benefit everyone: you know, the unseen hand thing, balancing supply and demand, optimizing the flow of capital to where it is most effective. That is not welfare.
Sorry, I don't subscribe to Adam Smith or free market fundamentalism (which are two different schools, btw, one is classical economics, the other neoclassical).
332 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 4:55:22am |
re: #330 000G
"Fine and dandy" is a pretty loopy term to argue these points.
Oh please. It's colloquial English. Deal with it.
Without welfare, there is always going to be some who lose out. That doesn't make all welfare desirable.
Uh, why are you talking about making all welfare desirable? I asked for an example of successful privatization. Why are we talking about welfare?
The former Eastern Bloc states are examples of privatization that has been horrible in some cases (especially energy industry, where the states have often backpedaled and re-nationalized) but benefitial in others.
Oh, if you look to South America too, there's lots of successful privatization (as well as terrible) because, often, the governments are extremely corrupt anyway.
I meant here in the US.
333 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 4:56:32am |
re: #331 000G
Adam Smith was never for laissez-faire, he certainly foresaw a role for government: namely to assure that markets operate for everyone's benefit, and not just those of the producers and suppliers.
The Enron catastrophe was a fine example of what happens when government neglects its role.
334 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:57:30am |
re: #332 Obdicut
Oh please. It's colloquial English. Deal with it.
How about you deal with the fact that some colloquial English is not sufficient to talk about some issues in earnest detail?
Uh, why are you talking about making all welfare desirable? I asked for an example of successful privatization. Why are we talking about welfare?
As I understand it, the government providing services to the benefit of the general public is welfare.
I meant here in the US.
Sorry, you didn't say. Can't help you with that. Otherwise I also would have mentioned England (emancipation of serfs) and Prussia.
335 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 26, 2011 4:57:31am |
BBL. Gotta get my son to school.
336 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:58:24am |
re: #333 ralphieboy
Adam Smith was never for laissez-faire, he certainly foresaw a role for government: namely to assure that markets operate for everyone's benefit, and not just those of the producers and suppliers.
The Enron catastrophe was a fine example of what happens when government neglects its role.
As I said, I do not subscribe to Adam Smith. Classical economics is deeply flawed, basically because it analyses all economical categories in fundamentally political terms.
337 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 4:59:05am |
Gotta go as well, byebye.
339 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 5:01:03am |
re: #334 000G
How about you deal with the fact that some colloquial English is not sufficient to talk about some issues in earnest detail?
I'm sorry, but I think that 'earnest detail' is kind of a loopy phrase to use. What do you mean by it?
As I understand it, the government providing services to the benefit of the general public is welfare.
Oh. No. It's not. Welfare specifically means providing direct income, or slightly indirect-- like food stamps-- to citizens. Not services in general.
Sorry, you didn't say. Can't help you with that. Otherwise I also would have mentioned England (emancipation of serfs) and Prussia.
Yeah, using examples from five hundred years ago isn't very relevant. But at least you didn't say 'dandy'.
340 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 5:06:59am |
This sounds like an interesting church:
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
Seventy "embarrassed and humiliated" Baptists want their pastor removed, saying he stole money from the church, made lewd remarks to women, threatened parishioners with a gun, and was involved in "violent criminal activity," including waving a handgun at motorists while cruising with two open bottles of alcohol and two loaded guns in his pickup truck.
They claim Baines has defamed former, deceased pastors of the church; brandished a gun at a male congregant who dared to criticize him, and forced the man off church grounds; made lewd comments to female parishioners, old and young; "had his son, Reverend Theodore Baines Jr., electronically transfer funds from a bank account of the church to her personal bank account without the approval of the membership body of the church, with such transfers presently under investigation by the Harris County District Attorney's Office for possible criminal charges; [and] continually disrespected the church by uncontrollable consumption of alcohol while on duty as pastor at the church," among other things.
341 | AK-47% Thu, May 26, 2011 5:15:00am |
There is a reason that the Bible Belt is so puritanical in its approach: a lot of these people are descendants of the Scotch-Irish settlers who were some of the drinkin-est, whorin-est, gamblin-est, fighten-est cavortin' roustabouts this nation has seen.
These are the sort of people who need a strict moral corset in place in order to remain in line, for once they stray a single step, it's all slippery slope for them.
342 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 5:26:52am |
He uses the name of this woman on the billboard:
The billboard depicts an Alamogordo businessman, GEFNET owner Greg A. Fultz, holding what appears to be an outlined baby in his arms as he is looking down at it. Next to the picture, in large print, is the statement, "This Would Have Been A Picture Of My 2-month Old Baby If The Mother Had Decided To Not KILL Our Child! [sic]."
Fultz said he was in a relationship with a woman about 1 1/2 years ago.
"There was a pregnancy, then there wasn't," he said, "with a woman named Nani. I started my pro-life work because I don't know if it was a miscarriage or an abortion. If it was an abortion, my work is set out to prevent this from happening to somebody else. My goal is to try to change one person's mind when it comes to abortion and let the baby live. The billboard stands alone. There are no names of people; just an organization."
Fultz said he would only state that Nani is under the age of 21.
343 | RadicalModerate Thu, May 26, 2011 5:27:49am |
Looks like one of the key players who engaged in ethnic cleansing in the Bosnian war has finally been captured.
Ratko Mladic arrested: Bosnia war crimes suspect held
Ratko Mladic, wanted by UN prosecutors for war crimes during the Bosnian civil war, has been arrested in Serbia after a decade in hiding.
Serbian President Boris Tadic confirmed the arrest of the former Bosnian Serb army chief at a news conference.
Gen Mladic is accused of a key role in the massacre of at least 7,500 men and boys at Srebrenica in 1995.
He was the most prominent Bosnian war crimes suspect at large since the arrest of Radovan Karadzic in 2008.
344 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 5:30:59am |
re: #342 Obdicut
When I was 18 my GF told me she miscarried but actually had an abortion. Didn't lead to any political decisions about life for me, especially not like THAT.
345 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 5:38:22am |
Hurricane season starts Wednesday. If one comes close to Florida, keep it on your cable news station as they report people running out to buy water, batteries, food, etc. When you see these people make sure to laugh in their general direction and call them stoopid.
346 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 5:48:14am |
re: #345 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hurricane season starts Wednesday. If one comes close to Florida, keep it on your cable news station as they report people running out to buy water, batteries, food, etc. When you see these people make sure to laugh in their general direction and call them stoopid.
That's why we don't let our gas tanks go below 1/2 during hurricane season--We plan to be gone when these types are panicing at the pump.
347 | Ericus58 Thu, May 26, 2011 5:52:54am |
re: #343 RadicalModerate
Looks like one of the key players who engaged in ethnic cleansing in the Bosnian war has finally been captured.
This War Criminal deserves the death penalty.
348 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 5:53:17am |
re: #346 Decatur Deb
That's why we don't let our gas tanks go below 1/2 during hurricane season--We plan to be gone when these types are panicing at the pump.
In 2004 I went to an Albertson's for some carrots (or something) because I was making soup. I asked the lady at check out if these people know where they live. (All were scrambling for provisions) She said she didn't think so. Also, the Subway a couple doors down had a line out the door.
349 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 5:58:55am |
re: #347 Ericus58
This War Criminal deserves the death penalty.
Do they have the death penalty still for war crimes? Seems the world has become more war criminal friendly since WW2.
350 | Summer Seale Thu, May 26, 2011 5:59:43am |
I have to say, I found his apology to be really heartfelt. Maybe he's a good actor or maybe not, but that must not have been easy either way. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he probably really meant it though. And I'm glad he did apologize.
But I actually wasn't very offended in the first place - not because I think that Laura is a slut (she probably isn't, which is maybe something that contributes to the way she is...ha!) but...I think I'm pretty jaded at this point.
Now, before anyone gets mad, I think a lot of people here know that I'm really an atheist feminist to the core, right? But here's the thing: Feminism really did split into two major camps after the 60's, and I've been looking at where it has all been ending up. One side supported women "exploiting themselves" (IE: prostitution, porn, etc...) as a sign of empowerment, not servitude, and the other side didn't. In fact, many of those on the "anti-porn" side even took up alliances with some religious conservatives.
I think some women have been desensitized in some way to the word "slut" as part of the sexual revolution in feminism. Meaning: maybe people like me don't see what's so terribly bad about being a slut. When you think about what it means, it means that you sleep around. Ok, so what? A lot of people think it's old fashioned in the extreme to say that girls can't sleep around but guys can. Guys will get praised for it and girls won't, and that's where the difference lies.
That's fundamentally more sexist than treating a girl just like a guy in that respect. The only problem is that most people still take a sort of conservative view when it comes to that. Guys sleeping around = stud. Girls sleeping around = slut. Not really sure I want to contribute to that stereotype, but then again...that's the accepted term. So, like the "N-word", you can either be owned by it, or own it yourself.
I guess that's why I kinda shrugged my shoulders in a way. Of course, I'm pretty sure Laura Ingraham isn't exactly liberated in that sense so she almost certainly took it worse than I ever would have, and maybe that's why I think it did merit an apology.
I'm glad he apologized. I guess I just want to explain something about my own way of thinking and my own views of what is misogynistic at the fundamental level.
Sorry if I didn't make sense. And, btw, for the record, I don't think it's appropriate to call anyone a "slut" (or even a "stud"!) on the air. It's just a stupid reference. I understand what he was trying to say and his basic premise was right, but the language just wasn't appropriate.
Ok and I know what I just wrote may have the chance of getting piled on so, in the spirit of trying to fend off more arguments against mine: I'm aware of them. I know there is a perception thing to be dealt with as well about women in Business and in positions of power. BELIEVE ME, that isn't lost on me. =) But that isn't the point. I'm trying to make a rational argument about a connotative set of words (which in itself is based on irrationality, I know...) and maybe I'm failing. I'm just trying to explain my own logical thinking on this. And don't forget: I said I'm glad that he apologized and should have, because not everyone is as "liberated" as I am, and because it also just wasn't appropriate. I mean, would anyone say that Ed Schultz is a "stud" for the left-wing? Not only would that not really register as a valid point, it also wouldn't make any sense in most people's minds.... =P
351 | Summer Seale Thu, May 26, 2011 6:01:40am |
re: #349 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do they have the death penalty still for war crimes? Seems the world has become more war criminal friendly since WW2.
They don't have it for war criminals anymore. The most they can get is life. Even the Rwandan massacre criminals, with nearly 1 million killed, cannot be put to death at the Hague.
And btw, I am also glad they got Ratko Mladic. I tweeted it as soon as I saw it on CNN's page. I'm very, very, happy that they got him.
Maybe they can put him in with his buddy Radovan and they can be shower buddies.
352 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 6:02:20am |
re: #350 Summer
A) I don't think that women who get called slut for being sexually active should feel bad.
B) But people who try to levy insults by using the word slut are still stupid assholes, for exactly that reason.
353 | Summer Seale Thu, May 26, 2011 6:03:54am |
re: #352 Obdicut
A) I don't think that women who get called slut for being sexually active should feel bad.
B) But people who try to levy insults by using the word slut are still stupid assholes, for exactly that reason.
How come you said what I wanted to say in only 2 sentences when it took me two pages to write? =)
354 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 6:04:37am |
re: #353 Summer
How come you said what I wanted to say in only 2 sentences when it took me two pages to write? =)
He wasn't handicapped by Women's Studies.
355 | Summer Seale Thu, May 26, 2011 6:05:40am |
re: #354 Decatur Deb
He wasn't handicapped by Women's Studies.
LOL =D Omg... =)
I guess I did really kinda did get into a lengthy explanation huh? =) Well, I was trying to do it without pissing everyone off. =)
356 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 6:06:56am |
re: #353 Summer
How come you said what I wanted to say in only 2 sentences when it took me two pages to write? =)
The same reason women want flowers, candles, dinner, they shave, do their hair, smell nice for an intimate night.
Guys just need to drop their pants and we're good.:)
358 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 6:08:16am |
re: #355 Summer
LOL =D Omg... =)
I guess I did really kinda did get into a lengthy explanation huh? =) Well, I was trying to do it without pissing everyone off. =)
It was an abysmally ill-mannered thing to say, and called for the abject apology. But, as we always told the kids when they came crying to us with a sibling atrocity, "Show me blood".
359 | Summer Seale Thu, May 26, 2011 6:09:31am |
re: #356 Cannadian Club Akbar
The same reason women want flowers, candles, dinner, they shave, do their hair, smell nice for an intimate night.
Guys just need to drop their pants and we're good.:)
Lol...so true. =) Ok, back to work for me. I hope people don't hate on me for what i wrote! =P
BTW, I totally love my brand new MacBook Pro 17"...It's gorgeous.
360 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 6:46:48am |
re: #345 Cannadian Club Akbar
And this season is predicted to be quite active - although activity doesn't necessarily correlate with landfalls. Besides, all it takes is one major hurricane landfall to redistribute the collective possessions of an entire region quite effectively - everyone gets nothing, mother nature 1.
Having a Go-bag is also a good idea, just in case (heck, it's a good idea in pretty much all parts of the country, because while natural disasters take many forms, they can all have the ability to send you packing in a hurry - or require you to subsist on minimal outside assistance for a period of time).
361 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 6:53:54am |
Pam Geller and Robert spencer are going to be sad today
Key Serbian War Crimes Suspect Reportedly In Custody
362 | Ericus58 Thu, May 26, 2011 6:57:03am |
re: #361 Killgore Trout
Pam Geller and Robert spencer are going to be sad today
Key Serbian War Crimes Suspect Reportedly In Custody
Thank you for bring that up, Killgore.
Yeah, defend that piece of turdness now, you howlers.
363 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 26, 2011 6:57:23am |
re: #343 RadicalModerate
Looks like one of the key players who engaged in ethnic cleansing in the Bosnian war has finally been captured.
Now that is the best news I've heard today.
364 | prairiefire Thu, May 26, 2011 6:57:57am |
I think a good name to call a gal who has multiple sex partners is "a grown up".
365 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 6:59:47am |
re: #364 prairiefire
I think a good name to call a gal who has multiple sex partners is "a grown up".
OR, my ex's. :)
366 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 7:04:25am |
re: #360 lawhawk
I basically have canned goods, water, radio, batteries, (including a wind-up radio Walter sent me) candles, etc. I wouldn't leave my house if a hurricane was coming. Structurally sound, no junk blowing around the yard. And with hurricanes, if you want to get out of town, you must do so a couple days ahead of time. Otherwise you get to ride it out on I-75 if you choose not to go to a local shelter.
367 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 7:05:10am |
re: #364 prairiefire
I think a good name to call a gal who has multiple sex partners is "a grown up".
But here's to the maid who steals a kiss and stays to steal another.
But here's to the maid who steals a kiss and stays to steal another.
She's a boon to all mankind.
She's a boon to all mankind.
She's a boon to all mankind.
She soon shall be a mother.
368 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 7:09:32am |
We just had a tornado drill in this building. Basically the shelters are the stairwells, the interior hallways and the restrooms.
370 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 7:16:02am |
re: #368 Alouette
We just had a tornado drill in this building. Basically the shelters are the stairwells, the interior hallways and the restrooms.
CHOOSE A RESTROOM!!!
371 | _RememberTonyC Thu, May 26, 2011 7:22:15am |
I didn't watch the clip and I am jumping on the thread without having read it. So if this was already mentioned, so be it. But Laura Ingraham is a cancer survivor IIRC. And it always looks bad to pick on people who have been through so much.
372 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 26, 2011 7:25:39am |
re: #369 Decatur Deb
Three Jolly Coachmen
[Video]
My wife learned this song from her father and has taught it to our son. ;)
373 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 7:26:16am |
re: #371 _RememberTonyC
I mentioned it last night. I can't believe you couldn't scroll through 370 post to find it!
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374 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 7:32:38am |
re: #373 Cannadian Club Akbar
I mentioned it last night. I can't believe you couldn't scroll through 370 post to find it!
/
You should know by now, nobody reads your posts!
375 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 7:34:08am |
Well, that explains it.
376 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 7:34:58am |
re: #366 Cannadian Club Akbar
I basically have canned goods, water, radio, batteries, (including a wind-up radio Walter sent me) candles, etc. I wouldn't leave my house if a hurricane was coming. Structurally sound, no junk blowing around the yard. And with hurricanes, if you want to get out of town, you must do so a couple days ahead of time. Otherwise you get to ride it out on I-75 if you choose not to go to a local shelter.
Like Ron White says
"It's not THAT the wind is blowing,, it's WHAT the wind is blowing. You want to be outside during a hurricane, thats all well and fine, but don't complain when a Volvo smashes into you"
377 | allegro Thu, May 26, 2011 7:36:02am |
re: #371 _RememberTonyC
I didn't watch the clip and I am jumping on the thread without having read it. So if this was already mentioned, so be it. But Laura Ingraham is a cancer survivor IIRC. And it always looks bad to pick on people who have been through so much.
You are suggesting that one who has had cancer can no longer be criticized for valid reason?
Um... nope. Not buying into that one.
378 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 26, 2011 7:40:08am |
re: #377 allegro
You are suggesting that one who has had cancer can no longer be criticized for valid reason?
Um... nope. Not buying into that one.
I didn't see that in TonyC's post, so I'm not buying your attempt to put words into his mouth.
My opinion: It's always bad form to criticize people using the sort of language Schultz used, whether the criticizee is cancer survivor or not.
379 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 7:40:13am |
re: #377 allegro
You are suggesting that one who has had cancer can no longer be criticized for valid reason?
Um... nope. Not buying into that one.
It's the same as claiming that because somebody is a "Holocaust survivor," a "combat veteran," a "9/11 widow/orphan," a "Civil rights activist who marched with MLK," or who experienced any disaster or significant historical event, that person holds absolute credibility and can never, ever be wrong or challenged.
380 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 7:40:48am |
re: #377 allegro
You are suggesting that one who has had cancer can no longer be criticized for valid reason?
Um... nope. Not buying into that one.
Shultz's original critique was "valid"??
381 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 7:42:28am |
re: #378 reine.de.tout
I didn't see that in TonyC's post, so I'm not buying your attempt to put words into his mouth.
My opinion: It's always bad form to criticize people using the sort of language Schultz used, whether the criticizee is cancer survivor or not.
re: #379 Alouette
It's the same as claiming that because somebody is a "Holocaust survivor," a "combat veteran," a "9/11 widow/orphan," a "Civil rights activist who marched with MLK," or who experienced any disaster or significant historical event, that person holds absolute credibility and can never, ever be wrong or challenged.
The issue isn't criticism, but now-fashionable public insult. Looks like it played out appropriately.
382 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 26, 2011 7:43:45am |
384 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 7:46:59am |
Bummer. It seems Walter may have shown up over at the stalker blog threatening to release a "Wikileaks of LGF" whatever that means. I do hope it's not true.
385 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 26, 2011 7:47:33am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Bummer. It seems Walter may have shown up over at the stalker blog threatening to release a "Wikileaks of LGF" whatever that means. I do hope it's not true.
Oh, hell, no.
386 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 7:48:44am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Bummer. It seems Walter may have shown up over at the stalker blog threatening to release a "Wikileaks of LGF" whatever that means. I do hope it's not true.
Using his name?
387 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 7:50:28am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Bummer. It seems Walter may have shown up over at the stalker blog threatening to release a "Wikileaks of LGF" whatever that means. I do hope it's not true.
Are you sure that's the real Walter and not somebody spoofing his name?
388 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 7:51:42am |
re: #387 Alouette
Are you sure that's the real Walter and not somebody spoofing his name?
I was gonna say, it's not like we hide stuff. Unless it is private email. But I'm thinking not. He will set us straight.
389 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 7:53:36am |
And FWIW, I've been here a long time and still don't know who the stalker blog is. I've been on one other just to check it out. But I don't have time for this blog let alone another one. Ya know, being unemployed and all.
/
390 | allegro Thu, May 26, 2011 7:54:30am |
re: #378 reine.de.tout
I didn't see that in TonyC's post, so I'm not buying your attempt to put words into his mouth.
My opinion: It's always bad form to criticize people using the sort of language Schultz used, whether the criticizee is cancer survivor or not.
I'm not attempting to put words into his mouth. That is the way his post read to me. He made no reference to the manner in which she was criticized, simply making what appeared to be a blanket statement about "picking on" a poor cancer survivor.
I do not, and have not, supported Shultz's verbage and think his apology and exile from his show for a week is appropriate.
391 | William Barnett-Lewis Thu, May 26, 2011 7:54:40am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Bummer. It seems Walter may have shown up over at the stalker blog threatening to release a "Wikileaks of LGF" whatever that means. I do hope it's not true.
Over a time-out? I'd rather hope that's a faker.
392 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 7:55:05am |
We've got Fleet Week here in NYC for the Memorial Day weekend, and unfortunately, it turned tragic. A Marine attached with the USS Iwo Jima was struck and killed crossing the West Side Highway near the ship. The driver of the car involved was not ticketed and it appears to have been a tragic accident:
A 22-year-old Marine visiting Manhattan for the first time was struck and killed by a car while crossing 12th Avenue.The Marine was hit just before 1:00 a.m. Thursday as he was getting out of a cab with his comrades at 12th Avenue and 49th Street.
The accident happened not far from Pier 88 where some of the ships taking part in Fleet Week are now moored. The Marine was returning to his ship, the USS Iwo Jima.
The young man was pronounced dead at the scene. Police officers and military personnel converged in the middle of the street to investigate the tragedy.
Police said the 39-year-old driver of a 2003 silver Acura realized he struck someone and stopped a block later. The driver called 911 and then walked back to the scene.
Investigators confirmed the Marine, who was in uniform, was crossing 12th Avenue when he was struck. At 49th Street, there is no crosswalk.
Damn.... just damn...
393 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 7:58:23am |
Morning all!
How do you keep the pop-up "password keeper" from popping up on a Mac. I never want it to keep my passwords. Ever.
How are you-all this am?
394 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 7:59:04am |
re: #385 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell, no.
I suppose it's possible but the stalkers have a habit of creating sockpuppets impersonating lizards so they might have just created some fake posts to cause trouble. I wouldn't venture a guess either way.
395 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 7:59:49am |
re: #392 lawhawk
The following post has only a bit to do with your, LH, but there is a local skater here, who was in the last Olympics (mixed doubles, whatever) who was hit in NYC years ago while she was there for a competition. Broke her leg. Guess it didn't stop her career.
396 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:00:28am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Bummer. It seems Walter may have shown up over at the stalker blog threatening to release a "Wikileaks of LGF" whatever that means. I do hope it's not true.
Why would he do that?
397 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:00:54am |
398 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:01:31am |
399 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:02:48am |
re: #398 researchok
Sounds about right
/
I have decided to just accept blame for stuff I never did. Just saves oxygen.
400 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:04:31am |
re: #399 Cannadian Club Akbar
I have decided to just accept blame for stuff I never did. Just saves oxygen.
Don't I know it.
401 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:06:59am |
This Barney Frank story is interesting.
I wonder if there will be any blow back.
Frank admits to helping lover land job at mortgage giant in ’91
402 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:07:15am |
Whatever it is, I didn't do it. It's not my fault.
I was asleep and it's raining again.
403 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:07:58am |
re: #401 researchok
This Barney Frank story is interesting.
I wonder if there will be any blow back.
Frank admits to helping lover land job at mortgage giant in ’91
Is Frank promiscuous?
404 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:08:01am |
re: #402 ggt
Whatever it is, I didn't do it. It's not my fault.
I was asleep and it's raining again.
I heard the IRS has initiated an audit.
/
405 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 8:08:29am |
re: #401 researchok
As long as this is the reality:
“(The executive) said, ‘Herb applied for a job,’ and I said, ‘Yeah, I think he’d be great. He’s an economist and he’s got an MBA,’ ” Frank said, recounting the conversation. “He was hired to an entry-level position.”
Then no, there's no actual ethical problem.
407 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:09:09am |
re: #403 ggt
Is Frank promiscuous?
No idea.
But given his past, I can't believe he would do something like that.
408 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 26, 2011 8:09:11am |
re: #385 reine.de.tout
Oh, hell, no.
Walter jumped ship??
Wow....see what happen when you miss a couple of weeks here!!!
409 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:09:33am |
411 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:11:12am |
re: #408 reloadingisnotahobby
Walter jumped ship??
Wow...see what happen when you miss a couple of weeks here!!!
We were hoping thinking that you might have done the same.
///
412 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:11:35am |
re: #410 Obdicut
Why would there be?
Appearances.
Other applicants might believe they weren't given a fair shot. etc.
413 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:11:44am |
re: #407 researchok
No idea.
But given his past, I can't believe he would do something like that.
WEll there is a difference between giving a reference and "courting favor". Giving a reference is fine. Sounds like what he did.
414 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:12:33am |
415 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 26, 2011 8:12:48am |
re: #389 Cannadian Club Akbar
And FWIW, I've been here a long time and still don't know who the stalker blog is. I've been on one other just to check it out. But I don't have time for this blog let alone another one. Ya know, being unemployed and all.
/
Yea...Whatever ya beach bum!!LOL
416 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:13:02am |
Walter's been especially cranky lately, IMHO.
Hope he is doing ok.
417 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 8:13:09am |
re: #412 researchok
What was he supposed to do? He vouched for him. If that's the extent of the 'influence', it ain't much.
418 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:13:32am |
re: #416 ggt
Walter's been especially cranky lately, IMHO.
Hope he is doing ok.
Lately? Have you met Walter?
/
419 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:13:36am |
420 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 26, 2011 8:13:52am |
re: #411 Cannadian Club Akbar
I do my stalking in person...///
If your not in central Utah your safe..HA!
421 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:14:07am |
422 | researchok Thu, May 26, 2011 8:15:24am |
re: #417 Obdicut
What was he supposed to do? He vouched for him. If that's the extent of the 'influence', it ain't much.
If that's the extent of it, the GOP are wasting their time.
That said, not q whole lot Franks does can be categorized as 'ain't much'.
424 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 8:16:53am |
re: #422 researchok
The story, as it stands, isn't anything at all. It even shows Frank in a good light.
Also, if this is true:
Frank wasn’t on the subcommittee that directly dealt with Fannie and Freddie Mac legislation but he once abstained from voting on a Republican amendment to limit executive compensation at the government-backed lenders.“I said publicly that my companion worked there and I voted present. I didn’t think I should vote on it,” the congressman said.
425 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:17:09am |
re: #422 researchok
If that's the extent of it, the GOP are wasting their time.
That said, not q whole lot Franks does can be categorized as 'ain't much'.
If one side does something you can bet someone from the other side will bitch about it.
426 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:17:35am |
re: #425 Cannadian Club Akbar
If one side does something you can bet someone from the other side will bitch about it.
They seem to think that is what they are elected to do.
427 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 26, 2011 8:18:38am |
re: #425 Cannadian Club Akbar
If one side does something you can bet someone from the other side will bitch about it.
We talking about Politics or Marriage??
428 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 8:19:16am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Can't imagine what whoever claiming to be walter would have that could be leaked - transcripts of the Lizard Lounge? The rest of the blog is pretty much open. Deleted comments get deleted for good reason. Don't see this amounting to much.
Some folks have way too much time on their hands to obsess over what goes on here at LGF in the comments....
429 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:19:34am |
430 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 8:22:12am |
re: #428 lawhawk
Can't imagine what whoever claiming to be walter would have that could be leaked - transcripts of the Lizard Lounge? The rest of the blog is pretty much open. Deleted comments get deleted for good reason. Don't see this amounting to much.
Some folks have way too much time on their hands to obsess over what goes on here at LGF in the comments...
Maybe real names of Lizards?
431 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:22:34am |
432 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:23:40am |
re: #430 Alouette
Maybe real names of Lizards?
He has mine and my address. He sent me a radio. But I'll read nothing into this.
433 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 8:26:11am |
re: #430 Alouette
Maybe real names of Lizards?
That's a possibility. He's been very friendly with Albusteve and lizards have purchased jewelry from him. It would be a very stupid and amazingly dickish thing to do. That's why I suspect it may just be a stalker hoax, Walter could be difficult at times but I hope he isn't that low.
434 | Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, May 26, 2011 8:26:20am |
I'm not worried about Walter being any more of a jerk than he usually is. I don't think he'd divulge sensitive info about specific Lizards. He's just not like that.
IMHO
435 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 26, 2011 8:27:34am |
re: #432 Cannadian Club Akbar
He has mine and my address. He sent me a radio. But I'll read nothing into this.
Yes!
I have a high regard for Walter and will not tolerate unsubstantiated
gossip in any form!
...and I'll not comment further till I hear from the cranky old bastid
myself!!
436 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:28:51am |
re: #434 ggt
I'm not worried about Walter being any more of a jerk than he usually is. I don't think he'd divulge sensitive info about specific Lizards. He's just not like that.
IMHO
People also might need to know that Walter doesn't use sarc tags and unless you have read him and his style (we all have our style) he may be misunderstood.
437 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 8:29:20am |
Wisconsin update:
Dane County judge strikes down collective bargaining law
A Dane County judge has struck down Gov. Scott Walker's legislation repealing most collective bargaining for public employees.
In a 33-page decision issued Thursday, Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi said she would freeze the legislation because GOP lawmakers on a committee broke the state's open meetings law in passing it March 9.
The legislation limits collective bargaining to wages for all public employees in Wisconsin except for police and firefighters.
438 | reloadingisnotahobby Thu, May 26, 2011 8:30:55am |
re: #436 Cannadian Club Akbar
Exactly!!
Now go fuck yourself!!//
LOL
Oops...gotta go!
BBL
440 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 26, 2011 8:34:26am |
441 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:34:38am |
442 | allegro Thu, May 26, 2011 8:35:27am |
443 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 8:37:30am |
re: #442 allegro
That is about as lecherous an expression as I've ever seen. The guy seems tp be positively drooling. LOL
Can't tell if he's more excited looking at Michelle, or that Barak is touching him!
445 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 8:45:25am |
re: #439 publicityStunted
Michelle thought bubble - once you go black, you never go back.
DSK thought bubble - Hot damn...
Barack thought bubble - once you go black, you never go back.
446 | Semper Fi Thu, May 26, 2011 8:45:57am |
re: #443 sattv4u2
Can't tell if he's more excited looking at Michelle, or that Barak is touching him!
He's just near sighted and forgot his glasses.
447 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 8:47:41am |
Supreme Court upholds Arizona law that punishes businesses hiring illegal aliens.
Arizona passed the Legal Arizona Workers Act in 2007, allowing the state to suspend the licenses of businesses that "intentionally or knowingly" violate work-eligibility verification requirements. Companies would be required under that law to use E-Verify, a federal database to check the documentation of current and prospective employees. That database had been created by Congress as a voluntary, discretionary resource.The U.S. Chamber of Commerce filed a lawsuit against the state, arguing federal law prohibits Arizona and other states from making E-Verify use mandatory. The group was supported by a variety of civil rights and immigration rights groups. The state countered that its broad licensing authority gives it the right to monitor businesses within its jurisdiction.
The Obama administration recommended a judicial review, and sided with businesses and civil rights groups.
A 1986 federal act significantly limited state power to separately regulate the hiring and employment of "unauthorized" workers. An exception was made for local "licensing and similar laws." Under the law, employees are required to review documentation to confirm someone's right to work in the United States, including checking the familiar I-9 immigration form. Civil and criminal penalties were strengthened, but businesses making a "good faith" effort to comply with I-9 procedures were generally immune from prosecution.
Roberts, backed by his four conservative colleagues, said "Arizona went the extra mile in ensuring that its law tracks (the federal law's) provisions in all material aspects."
In dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor noted E-Verify is a voluntary program, and said criticism that the federal government is not doing enough to enforce the law is irrelevant.
This is going to be the warmup to other more controversial laws that test the limits of federalism and the supremacy clause.
448 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 8:48:43am |
This is goddamn awful:
[Link: www.time.com...]
(GENOA) — The latest sex-abuse case to rock the Catholic Church is unfolding in the archdiocese of an influential Italian Cardinal who has been working with Pope Benedict XVI on reforms to respond to prior scandals of pedophile priests.
Father Riccardo Seppia, a 51-year-old parish priest in the village of Sastri Ponente, near Genoa, was arrested last Friday, May 13, on pedophilia and drug charges. Investigators say that in tapped mobile-phone conversations, Seppia asked a Moroccan drug dealer to arrange sexual encounters with young and vulnerable boys. "I do not want 16-year-old boys but younger. Fourteen-year-olds are O.K. Look for needy boys who have family issues," he allegedly said.
Seppia's defense lawyers are expected to argue that those conversations — monitored since Oct. 20, 2010 — were just words, sex games that were played by adults. It was just a game even when he claimed to have "kissed on the mouth" a 15-year-old altar boy, according to the defense.
449 | blueraven Thu, May 26, 2011 8:49:38am |
450 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:50:12am |
Job application for Antarctica faxed. Do they have interwebz there?
451 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 8:53:55am |
re: #450 Cannadian Club Akbar
Job application for Antarctica faxed. Do they have interwebz there?
[Link: www.personneltoday.com...]
452 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 8:55:44am |
re: #450 Cannadian Club Akbar
Job application for Antarctica faxed. Do they have interwebz there?
Damn. It seems they do have internet access...
[Link: www.personneltoday.com...]
453 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 8:56:54am |
re: #451 sattv4u2
[Link: www.personneltoday.com...]
Any clue how it works? I can't imagine there are a lot of communication satellites over the antarctic.
454 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:57:06am |
re: #451 sattv4u2
[Link: www.personneltoday.com...]
From the link:
“We are finding people are going to the common room to socialise less and spending more time on the internet.
Bet there is no porn in the common room. Just sayin'.
455 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 8:57:58am |
456 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Thu, May 26, 2011 8:58:57am |
re: #450 Cannadian Club Akbar
Job application for Antarctica faxed. Do they have interwebz there?
I hope you get it! How exciting!
457 | darthstar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:58:58am |
re: #450 Cannadian Club Akbar
Job application for Antarctica faxed. Do they have interwebz there?
They do. They also have beaches (usually found under several meters of ice). So it'll be just like Florida, only a little further south.
458 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 8:59:09am |
Official totals from Joplin tornado - 232 still missing, 125 killed.
The deadliest single tornado in the United States in 64 years killed 125 and left more than 900 injured.Three more bodies were recovered Wednesday evening.
This year has seen an unusually high number of tornadoes, with 1,168 as of May 22, compared to an average of about 671 by this time, according to Joshua Wurman, head of the Center for Severe Weather Research in Boulder, Colo.
The United States is on pace to break its record for deaths from tornadoes this season, the National Weather Service has said.
2011 in historical perspective. The totals reflect a new record for most tornadoes in any month, when 875 occurred in April 2011. That smashed the previous April and monthly records by a wide margin in both cases - 267 and 542, respectively. The bulk of those April 2011 tornadoes occurred in two super-outbreaks.
459 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 8:59:47am |
re: #457 darthstar
They do. They also have beaches (usually found under several meters of ice). So it'll be just like Florida, only a little further south.
Hope they have nude beaches!!!
/
460 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:00:37am |
re: #456 Stanley Sea
I hope you get it! How exciting!
Might as well go when there is no NFL season.:(
461 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:01:47am |
re: #453 Killgore Trout
Any clue how it works? I can't imagine there are a lot of communication satellites over the antarctic.
You can't hide from us!!!
[Link: www.google.com...]
462 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:03:57am |
re: #459 Cannadian Club Akbar
Hope they have nude beaches!!!
/
That they do
Just don't put your blanket down on a pile of penguin poop!!
(don't ask!)
463 | Kragar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:04:05am |
Fugitive Bosnian Serb war crimes suspect Ratko Mladic has been arrested in Serbia after 16 years on the run.
Gen Mladic, 69, was found in a village in northern Serbia where had been living under an assumed name.
He faces charges over the massacre of at least 7,500 Bosnian Muslim men and boys at Srebrenica in 1995.
Serbian President Boris Tadic said the process to extradite the former Bosnian Serb army chief to the war crimes tribunal in The Hague was under way.
464 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:04:41am |
re: #462 sattv4u2
That they do
Just don't put your blanket down on a pile of penguin poop!!
(don't ask!)
Dude, you were at the zoo!!
465 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:05:11am |
re: #453 Killgore Trout
re: #461 sattv4u2
You can't hide from us!!!
[Link: www.google.com...]
Oooppppsss
meant to cull this one out of all those
[Link: www.abc.net.au...]
466 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:05:35am |
re: #464 Cannadian Club Akbar
Dude, you were at the zoo!!
Oh ,, well then , that explains the cages !
467 | Kragar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:07:02am |
Judge voids controversial Wisconsin union law
A Wisconsin judge on Thursday voided a controversial Republican-backed law restricting the collective bargaining rights of public sector unions.
Dane County Judge Maryann Sumi said Republican lawmakers violated the state's open meetings law in rushing the legislation through during massive protests at the state Capitol earlier this year.
The Wisconsin proposal, championed by Republican Governor Scott Walker, eliminates most collective bargaining rights for public sector unions and requires them to pay more for pensions and health coverage.
The law has been on hold pending the legal challenge.
Mike Tate, chairman of the state's Democratic Party which opposed the measure, hailed the ruling and said: "It should be looked at as an opportunity to work together to find common sense solutions to grow our economy and get our fiscal house in order, not to tear our state apart."
Sumi, who was appointed by former Republican Governor Tommy Thompson, ruled that the evidence was "clear and convincing" that Republicans failed to comply with the law in a hastily called meeting in March to push through legislation containing the collective bargaining changes.
468 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 9:07:39am |
re: #467 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They can, of course, just pass it again, following the law this time. But will they want to?
469 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:11:23am |
Antarctica people just called me. I need to fax some extra stuff. Holy crap, I'm cold already!!
470 | Kragar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:11:48am |
re: #468 Obdicut
They can, of course, just pass it again, following the law this time. But will they want to?
I'm guessing they'll go after "damn activist judges legislating from the bench".
471 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 9:12:31am |
re: #470 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah, that would get them the talking point they crave without actually having to take responsibility for having done anything. That's pretty much perfect for the revanchist GOP these days.
472 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 9:12:43am |
re: #469 Cannadian Club Akbar
Antarctica people just called me. I need to fax some extra stuff. Holy crap, I'm cold already!!
Congrats and best of luck to you.
474 | Kragar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:14:55am |
re: #469 Cannadian Club Akbar
Antarctica people just called me. I need to fax some extra stuff. Holy crap, I'm cold already!!
If a crazy Norwegian stumbles into camp with an assault rifle, just let him shoot the dog.
476 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:21:32am |
477 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:37am |
re: #476 sattv4u2
Apparently he'll have all the interwebs he can handle there, too.
478 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:48am |
re: #469 Cannadian Club Akbar
Antarctica people just called me. I need to fax some extra stuff. Holy crap, I'm cold already!!
You found a kitchen in Antarctica? That would be cool, way cool.
479 | Shropshire_Slasher Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:53am |
Going to Antartica for Jello wrastling is better than the naked beer slides
480 | Kragar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:24:31am |
Sarah Palin likened to Joan of Arc in two-hour documentary film
It might just be Sarah Palin's last chance to re-establish herself as a viable presidency candidate ahead of the 2012 US elections in the wake of a disastrous PR run. A new film commissioned by Palin, the former governor of Alaska, will present her as a Joan of Arc-like figure beset at every turn by vicious leftwing enemies seeking to thwart her ambition of reviving the conservative legacy of Ronald Reagan.
The Undefeated has been shot by rightwing film-maker Steven K Bannon, who met the documentary's $1m costs from his own pocket. Palin initially reached out to the director with the aim of recruiting him to work on videos pushing her cause, but Bannon offered to make a feature-length film instead.
Rife with religious imagery, the movie will chart Palin's rise from Alaskan "soccer mom" to vice-presidential candidate. Drawing on content from Palin's book Going Rogue: An American Life, which has sold more than 2m copies, the film will seek to explain her decision to step down as governor of Alaska following her unsuccessful run alongside John McCain in 2008.
481 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 9:25:57am |
re: #480 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sarah Palin likened to Joan of Arc in two-hour documentary film
Joan of Arc was a schizophrenic who heard voices in her head. And she was French.
482 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:26:43am |
re: #481 Alouette
Joan of Arc was a schizophrenic who heard voices in her head. And she was French.
She was a convicted witch, and a Catholic.
483 | allegro Thu, May 26, 2011 9:27:05am |
re: #480 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sarah Palin likened to Joan of Arc in two-hour documentary film
She's gonna get burned?
484 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 26, 2011 9:27:17am |
re: #482 Decatur Deb
She was a convicted witch, and a Catholic.
That wasn't her real nose, you know.
485 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:27:33am |
re: #477 Obdicut
Apparently he'll have all the interwebs he can handle there, too.
Just thinking about it he's already cold
His fingers will be too numb to type!
486 | allegro Thu, May 26, 2011 9:28:09am |
Wait... The Undefeated? What was that called in 2008?
487 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:28:10am |
488 | Kragar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:28:41am |
489 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:28:48am |
490 | Sheila Broflovski Thu, May 26, 2011 9:29:04am |
491 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:29:33am |
492 | SidewaysQuark Thu, May 26, 2011 9:29:54am |
Here's a subject right up the alley of this site that personally infuriates me:
Tom Coburn Continues Republican War on Science
Apparently, Republicans are now too stupid to see how research into insect locomotion and/or advanced robotics could possibly be useful. And part of the public will lap this right up....
493 | Kragar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:31:09am |
re: #492 SidewaysQuark
Here's a subject right up the alley of this site that personally infuriates me:
Tom Coburn Continues Republican War on Science
Apparently, Republicans are now too stupid to see how research into insect locomotion and/or advanced robotics could possibly be useful. And part of the public will lap this right up...
A growing number of the GOP thinks if that if they're too stupid to understand something, it must not be worthwhile.
494 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:32:08am |
re: #486 allegro
Wait... The Undefeated? What was that called in 2008?
I thought she was 'The Undecipherable'.
495 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:32:38am |
re: #298 Obdicut
You do have to provide ID to register a car, open a bank account, and rent an apartment. I think you do to enroll a child in school.
Why do you think otherwise?
You need to prove residence to enroll a child, and you need a birth certificate, and shot records, and all manner of paperwork on the child.
496 | allegro Thu, May 26, 2011 9:32:49am |
re: #494 Decatur Deb
I thought she was 'The Undecipherable'.
Heh. A better name for her movie would be "Word Salad."
497 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:33:37am |
re: #303 ralphieboy
Don't overhyperbolize. America as a rule only nationalizes those things that the private sector cannot handle efficiently or fairly. When we start privatizing those aspects, it is a sign that we have gone too far with it.
"The shit that no one normal wants privatized if they think about it for ten seconds."
498 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 26, 2011 9:34:30am |
re: #495 SanFranciscoZionist
You need to prove residence to enroll a child, and you need a birth certificate, and shot records, and all manner of paperwork on the child.
Recent utility bill, birth certificate. Shot records in grade school. At the high school they didn't ask.
499 | blueraven Thu, May 26, 2011 9:35:47am |
500 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:36:28am |
501 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:36:46am |
re: #312 Obdicut
The solution to illegal immigration is never going to be rounding up people on the street and deporting them, nor will it be making it harder for them to go about things legally. It's always easy to get someone else to rent the apartment for you, register the car for you, etc. etc.
A solution to the 'problem' of illegal immigration has to be a policy one, not a law enforcement one.
Also, the harder it is to do basic things while you're here, the more vulnerable you are.
Contrary to popular belief, when you realize that you're not able to do things without subterfuge in America, you don't turn around and go back to the Oaxaca highlands, you pay even more of your miserable wages to some guy who's a citizen or an enforcer to get stuff done for you, thereby putting yourself and your kids at risk for all kinds of shit.
So that creates a law enforcement issue, not to mention a humanitarian one.
503 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 26, 2011 9:38:12am |
re: #501 SanFranciscoZionist
Also, the harder it is to do basic things while you're here, the more vulnerable you are.
Contrary to popular belief, when you realize that you're not able to do things without subterfuge in America, you don't turn around and go back to the Oaxaca highlands, you pay even more of your miserable wages to some guy who's a citizen or an enforcer to get stuff done for you, thereby putting yourself and your kids at risk for all kinds of shit.
So that creates a law enforcement issue, not to mention a humanitarian one.
Right, but when a state tries to create a guest worker program for humanitarian reasons, they are dead wrong.
504 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 26, 2011 9:38:27am |
re: #503 EmmmieG
That was sarcasm on my part.
505 | simoom Thu, May 26, 2011 9:38:39am |
A kind of cute clip from some live coverage of the President in Dublin:
*Takes phone* "Am I speaking to Caitlin's Mom? Hi, this is the President of the United States."
506 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:38:55am |
re: #322 ralphieboy
I remember Rush blaming it all on "environmental whackos" who opposed construction of new power plants.
Sure, that's the standard. Deregulation only works if you go ALL the way, and if you can't, it's the libs fault.
Somehow.
People are still trying to insist that Enron was a. a fluke, and b. only happened because the liberals wouldn't let everything be set up properly.
Enron was just human nature. Not a very nice part of human nature, but very predictable.
507 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:39:44am |
re: #498 EmmmieG
Recent utility bill, birth certificate. Shot records in grade school. At the high school they didn't ask.
Same school district/ state?
Because when my son went from grammar to middle school, no documentation was needed
BUT,, when he went from middle (public) to High School (private) we had to show the same things from when he went into 1st grade
508 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:41:03am |
re: #334 000G
As I understand it, the government providing services to the benefit of the general public is welfare.
There's a very sharp distinction between 'providing for the general welfare', and the common usage of 'welfare'.
510 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:43:17am |
511 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, May 26, 2011 9:43:27am |
re: #507 sattv4u2
Same school district/ state?
Because when my son went from grammar to middle school, no documentation was needed
BUT,, when he went from middle (public) to High School (private) we had to show the same things from when he went into 1st grade
I had registered them for grade school, then homeschooled, but we put them back in at high school.
Because of the nature of things, I had to prove we live in the school boundaries.
512 | sattv4u2 Thu, May 26, 2011 9:43:50am |
re: #511 EmmmieG
I had registered them for grade school, then homeschooled, but we put them back in at high school.
Because of the nature of things, I had to prove we live in the school boundaries.
Understandable
513 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:45:01am |
re: #361 Killgore Trout
Pam Geller and Robert spencer are going to be sad today
Key Serbian War Crimes Suspect Reportedly In Custody
Well, I'm dancing a jig for both of them.
The wingnut delusion about the Balkans is one of the things I find least appealing about them. And that is a long, long, list.
514 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:46:38am |
re: #364 prairiefire
I think a good name to call a gal who has multiple sex partners is "a grown up".
Part of the trouble is that we actually regressed on this point, I think. The concept of dating several suitors at once used to be absolutely normative. Now middle-schoolers have exclusive hand-holding relationships for two weeks and must formally break up (sometimes by proxy) before holding hands with another.
515 | abolitionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:47:20am |
Model dethroned for refusing to have sex
|HARARE – Miss Tourism Zimbabwe’s Miss Personality, Lungile Mathe (Pictured), has been dethroned and denied her prizes after allegedly turning down the sexual advances of senior politicians and government officials aligned to Zanu (PF).
Related: Search on for Zimbabwe’s ugliest man
Hard to believe they're promoting tourism.
516 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:48:29am |
re: #515 abolitionist
They know how to PARTY!!!
517 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Thu, May 26, 2011 9:48:50am |
This should also be a page:
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
Dry weather may jeopardize farmers’ plans to boost global production and replenish stockpiles that have been drained after the worst drought in at least half a century in Russia and excessive rains in Canada and Australia slashed harvests of food-quality wheat. The International Grains Council lowered last month its outlook on global wheat production in the 2011-2012 season by 1 million tons to 672 million metric tons, matching global demand, because of “less than ideal conditions for some crops” in the U.S., the European Union and China. Further losses to the crop may cause production to lag behind demand for a second straight year, draining inventories. Dry weather threatens to curb output in growing regions in China after similar conditions caused the winter-wheat crop in the U.S., the largest shipper, to deteriorate, while England had the hottest April in at least 352 years.
518 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 26, 2011 9:50:58am |
re: #469 Cannadian Club Akbar
Antarctica people just called me. I need to fax some extra stuff. Holy crap, I'm cold already!!
And it's summer down there right now...
519 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:52:42am |
re: #379 Alouette
It's the same as claiming that because somebody is a "Holocaust survivor," a "combat veteran," a "9/11 widow/orphan," a "Civil rights activist who marched with MLK," or who experienced any disaster or significant historical event, that person holds absolute credibility and can never, ever be wrong or challenged.
How about 'of Israeli descent'?
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520 | abolitionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:53:03am |
521 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:53:24am |
re: #384 Killgore Trout
Bummer. It seems Walter may have shown up over at the stalker blog threatening to release a "Wikileaks of LGF" whatever that means. I do hope it's not true.
Ah, they have people wandering in there all the time claiming to be all sorts of people.
522 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:53:39am |
re: #518 oaktree
And it's summer down there right now...
I applied for summer shift, between August/September and February.
523 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 26, 2011 9:53:43am |
re: #505 simoom
A kind of cute clip from some live coverage of the President in Dublin:
[Video]
*Takes phone* "Am I speaking to Caitlin's Mom? Hi, this is the President of the United States."
The President in _The Fifth Element_ did not have that good of a conversation when he got on the phone with Bruce Willis' Mom...
;)
524 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:54:24am |
525 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 26, 2011 9:54:59am |
re: #522 Cannadian Club Akbar
I applied for summer shift, between August/September and February.
My error, it's really winter there right now. Stupid hemispheres and wobbly planet! I blame Mother Nature!
/
526 | Decatur Deb Thu, May 26, 2011 9:55:05am |
re: #505 simoom
A kind of cute clip from some live coverage of the President in Dublin:
[Video]*Takes phone* "Am I speaking to Caitlin's Mom? Hi, this is the President of the United States."
That's a sad and wonderful thing. Would he be afraid to take the phone in Dallas?
527 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 9:55:07am |
re: #524 SanFranciscoZionist
If Frank were promiscuous, would it be OK to call him a slut?
//
Frank the Slut. Not a good mob name but a good band one.
528 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:58:07am |
re: #434 ggt
I'm not worried about Walter being any more of a jerk than he usually is. I don't think he'd divulge sensitive info about specific Lizards. He's just not like that.
IMHO
Agreed. The stalkers are shit-disturbers, and they love to be divisive and try to suggest that they have seeeekrit documents that will lead to Charles' downfall. Not to be taken seriously by adult.
529 | Simply Sarah Thu, May 26, 2011 9:58:48am |
re: #525 oaktree
My error, it's really winter there right now. Stupid hemispheres and wobbly planet! I blame Mother Nature!
/
Well, actually, it's technically still autumn there. >.>
530 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 9:59:55am |
531 | efuseakay Thu, May 26, 2011 10:01:41am |
re: #343 RadicalModerate
Looks like one of the key players who engaged in ethnic cleansing in the Bosnian war has finally been captured.
Of course, the Freepers, in all of their infinite ignorance, are defending the monster.
532 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 10:02:44am |
Khadafi sends list of proposals for a ceasefire to Europeans.
Bet none of them include Khadafi getting busted back to private (life).
533 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 10:03:15am |
534 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 10:05:00am |
re: #481 Alouette
Joan of Arc was a schizophrenic who heard voices in her head. And she was French.
Also quite a good military leader. So far I'm not seeing the resemblance.
I am, however, seeing Sarah in armor, riding a snowmobile, and leading the Alaskan National Guard under a North Star banner. It would make a nice painting.
535 | Interesting Times Thu, May 26, 2011 10:05:16am |
re: #533 SanFranciscoZionist
Killer.
Rape-camp runner. I will refrain from graphic descriptions of the poetic-justice punishment I wish he would face.
536 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 10:05:28am |
re: #532 lawhawk
Khadafi sends list of proposals for a ceasefire to Europeans.
Bet none of them include Khadafi getting busted back to private (life).
CCA list for Daffy:
Leave.
Live in exile somewhere.
Or don't. And wait for a knock at the door.
537 | lawhawk Thu, May 26, 2011 10:06:47am |
re: #445 lawhawk
Extending and revising original comments:
Michelle: Once you go Barack, you don't go back.
DSK: Mon dieu!
Barack: Heh. Once you go Barack, you don't go back.
538 | abolitionist Thu, May 26, 2011 10:07:48am |
539 | Killgore Trout Thu, May 26, 2011 10:08:04am |
DCCC Chair Steve Israel: Medicare Has Put House Back In Play
I think it's a bit of wishful thinking but it would be a pretty historic rebuke if Republicans were to lose the house.
540 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 10:08:52am |
re: #531 efuseakay
Of course, the Freepers, in all of their infinite ignorance, are defending the monster.
I wish I could come up with a better reason for this sort of fucked-up behavior than 'they hate Muslims that much', but I can't.
541 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 10:09:03am |
re: #538 abolitionist
Brooklyn Man Still In Jail 5 Years After Charges Dismissed
Video - Investigation: Charged dismissed, but still in jail
I remember this story.
542 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 10:11:08am |
re: #538 abolitionist
Brooklyn Man Still In Jail 5 Years After Charges Dismissed
Video - Investigation: Charged dismissed, but still in jail
This puts my complaints about my financial aid office into perspective.
543 | blueraven Thu, May 26, 2011 10:12:03am |
re: #534 SanFranciscoZionist
Also quite a good military leader. So far I'm not seeing the resemblance.
I am, however, seeing Sarah in armor, riding a snowmobile, and leading the Alaskan National Guard under a North Star banner. It would make a nice painting.
As Putin's head rears in the background.
544 | abolitionist Thu, May 26, 2011 10:14:31am |
re: #542 SanFranciscoZionist
This puts my complaints about my financial aid office into perspective.
Yeah, and I broke up a fight at the front entrance of my high school once.
545 | Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, May 26, 2011 10:15:18am |
NYPD officers found innocent of rape charges.
[Link: www.theolympian.com...]
546 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, May 26, 2011 10:16:01am |
re: #543 blueraven
As Putin's head rears in the background.
Anyone here seen the Simpson's episode where the kids are hearing bedtime stories, and they have a sequence with Lisa as Joan? She has a little helmet with pointy bumps like her hair. It's awesome.
547 | efuseakay Thu, May 26, 2011 10:26:21am |
re: #540 SanFranciscoZionist
I wish I could come up with a better reason for this sort of fucked-up behavior than 'they hate Muslims that much', but I can't.
I forgot "racist/bigoted" in my comment.
548 | William of Orange Thu, May 26, 2011 10:28:23am |
Big deal. He called her a slut, he went over the line and he knows it. He apologized for it but come on. There are worse things you can do and say on the radio and tv. Calling her that, is that a reason to take him of the air??
After the apology, which was sincere, it has to be over concerning this incident. Move on and get over it.
And besides that, I think Laura has been called worse things than slut...
549 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, May 26, 2011 10:31:29am |
re: #543 blueraven
As Putin's head rears in the background.
And the ice weasels lurk in the underbrush awaiting the overturning of the snowmobile.
550 | William of Orange Thu, May 26, 2011 10:36:26am |
As classy the apology of Schultz was, the response of Laura Ingraham certainly wasn't....
Ingraham did respond on Facebook and Twitter, where she wrote, "MSNBC suspends Schultz. Oh great, now his ratings will go up.
She'll never learn....
551 | RadicalModerate Thu, May 26, 2011 10:38:56am |
re: #531 efuseakay
Of course, the Freepers, in all of their infinite ignorance, are defending the monster.
I went over there thinking (hoping?) that you were kidding - there's no way they would support a war criminal who proudly boasted of his ethnic cleansing efforts.
Not only are these guys supporting Ratko becuause he killed Muslims, but are claiming that NATO was the true war criminals in the Balkan war.
Oh, "goodie-gum-drops", now Serbia gets to join the EU!
There was NO genocide in Bosnia! But the EU, and the entire New World Order, wants to totally wipe out the Serbian people, via destruction of Serbian culture (e.g., loss of Kosovo, neutralizing the Serbian Orthodox Church, "gay rights" and feminism, etc.), destruction of Serbia's economic base, the white plague, and massive muslim immigration. That IS genocide!!!!
Serbia stay OUT of the EU, and ally with Russia!!!! Free Ratko and Radovan, liberate Kosovo, Srpska, and Montenegro!!!!
Serbia is America's true ally, NOT euro-muslims or any other muslims. Let's act accordingly!!!!
9 posted on Thu 26 May 2011 10:17:34 AM CDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)Mladic ... is wanted by the United Nations war crimes tribunal for the former Yugoslavia for genocide ...
I know, I know, he's probably an evil butcher deserving of death. But I can't help feeling bad for anyone arrested on the orders of our globalist masters.
2 posted on Thu 26 May 2011 06:07:59 AM CDT by Pan_YanThe man killed muslims that slaughtered and beheaded Christians... and anyone else that entertained them by doing so.
LLS
That is exactly what I am talkng about... mccain and clinton are the war criminals here... we killed Christians that were being invaded and murdered by muslims... and that will happen in America because we will never stand up to islam as long as the retchid criminals run dc.LLS
21 posted on Thu 26 May 2011 07:30:53 AM CDT by LibLieSlayer ("If you lie hard enough and sell your soul... you can scam your way to the top" barack obama)
Absolutely disgusting.
552 | reine.de.tout Thu, May 26, 2011 10:52:41am |
re: #430 Alouette
Maybe real names of Lizards?
If that's it, then I'm save.
Many many folks already know mine.
553 | abolitionist Thu, May 26, 2011 11:09:00am |
Followup:
Man freed after Eyewitness News Investigation - Thursday, May 26, 2011
Brooklyn man Oswind David sprung from prison after 4-1/2 years due to trial snafu - Wednesday, May 25th 2011, 4:00 AM
"That is the horrifying situation that we're in - nobody found it out," said David's lawyer Rita Dave. "[It was] a breakdown literally at every level."
Prosecutors discovered the mistake last month, but the Brooklyn district attorney's office insists David should stay behind bars, arguing that the jury would have convicted him of a lesser charge of second-degree assault.
Dave called that contention "mind-boggling," and an appellate judge agreed, ordering David's release from Sing Sing on $75,000 bail while his case is appealed.
It's not over yet, apparently.
554 | _RememberTonyC Thu, May 26, 2011 12:00:34pm |
re: #378 reine.de.tout
I didn't see that in TonyC's post, so I'm not buying your attempt to put words into his mouth.
My opinion: It's always bad form to criticize people using the sort of language Schultz used, whether the criticizee is cancer survivor or not.
You're right Reine ..... thanks. I chose my words carefully saying "it's bad form," not "it's unacceptable." Some people just project their own bias onto others when there was no bias intended. Thanks for the backup :)
555 | _RememberTonyC Thu, May 26, 2011 12:01:22pm |
re: #390 allegro
I'm not attempting to put words into his mouth. That is the way his post read to me. He made no reference to the manner in which she was criticized, simply making what appeared to be a blanket statement about "picking on" a poor cancer survivor.
I do not, and have not, supported Shultz's verbage and think his apology and exile from his show for a week is appropriate.
see #554
556 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 12:26:13pm |
re: #339 Obdicut
I'm sorry, but I think that 'earnest detail' is kind of a loopy phrase to use. What do you mean by it?
I mean: In a way so as to not provide wide open loopholes with which to continually move the goalpost or some other tactic by which to preserve one's own sense of smugness without actually contributing to the debate.
Oh. No. It's not. Welfare specifically means providing direct income, or slightly indirect-- like food stamps-- to citizens. Not services in general.
You must use another dictionary than the one I use, then:
a: aid in the form of money or necessities for those in need
b : an agency or program through which such aid is distributed
So yeah, services in general – if those services are neccessary. Like the post service, for instance.
Yeah, using examples from five hundred years ago isn't very relevant. But at least you didn't say 'dandy'.
It's actually very relevant if you want to understand the key issues at play instead of repeating tired cold war stereotypes about private versus public, but whatever you say, dandy.
557 | (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, May 26, 2011 12:27:51pm |
re: #508 SanFranciscoZionist
There's a very sharp distinction between 'providing for the general welfare', and the common usage of 'welfare'.
… and?
558 | Obdicut Thu, May 26, 2011 12:31:11pm |
re: #556 000G
I mean: In a way so as to not provide wide open loopholes with which to continually move the goalpost or some other tactic by which to preserve one's own sense of smugness without actually contributing to the debate.
Since you apparently don't think I'm arguing in good faith, why should I bother continuing to talk to you?
So yeah, services in general – if those services are neccessary. Like the post service, for instance.
Nope. You're reading that incredibly badly. A post office is not 'aid'.
559 | Flavia Thu, May 26, 2011 1:41:38pm |
She did accept his apology:
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
"She addressed the issue again on her radio show even though "she didn't really want to discuss it." ...."Stuff is always said about me," she said. "…I thought so little about it, I didn't even mention it yesterday."
Ingraham called the comment "crude," but said Schultz's remorse seemed genuine.
"It seemed heartfelt, it seemed like he really wished he hadn't said it, and I accept the apology," she added."