GOP Rep. Rohrabacher Doesn’t Believe in Climate Change, But Wants to Clear the Rainforests Anyway

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DERPIn a congressional hearing this week titled “UN Climate Talks and Power Politics — It’s Not About the Temperature,” Rep. Dana Rohrabacher came up with one of the more bizarre right wing climate change denial fantasies in recent memory; Rohrabacher says scientists need to start addressing the greenhouse gases emitted by rotting vegetation.

Rohrabacher does not believe in human-caused climate change, but he has a solution ready to go — clear out those dangerous rainforests and cut down all those old trees.

The chairman of the House Foreign Affairs oversight subcommittee made it clear during a Wednesday hearing that he doesn’t believe in man-made global warming.

But if it were true — and most of the world’s scientists agree it is — Rohrabacher said he’s hit on an answer by tackling the 80 to 90 percent of heat-trapping greenhouse gas emissions “generated by nature itself”: Namely, yank down old trees and get rid of the rotting wood in rainforests.

“Is there some thought being given to subsidizing the clearing of rainforests in order for some countries to eliminate that production of greenhouse gases?” the California Republican asked Todd Stern, the top U.S. climate diplomat and lead witness at the hearing. “Or would people be supportive of cutting down older trees in order to plant younger trees as a means to prevent this disaster from happening?”

Good grief, people. How did we end up in a situation where one of the two major political parties is wandering blind in La La Land, brushing aside the opinions of qualified scientists to blurt out such reprehensible and stupid bullshit?

The really sick and twisted part of it is that Rohrabacher doesn’t even believe in global warming! He’s not suggesting cutting down the world’s rainforests as a legitimate idea. He’s just sticking a thumb in the scientists’ eyes.

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648 comments
1 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:22:37pm

the Paul Bunyan Party

2 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:23:23pm

mahogany futures just crashed

3 Turkey Jihad  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:23:53pm

Good grief, people. How did we end up in a situation where one of the two major political parties is wandering blind in La La Land, brushing aside the opinions of qualified scientists to blurt out reprehensible and stupid bullshit like this?

Because, you commie librul. Real Americans know that so-called climate change is a vast konspiracy between tens of thousands of so-called scientists intent on bringing America to her knees by ending capitalism.

4 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:24:45pm

Notice that he doesn't even believe in global warming -- so asking this question serves no purpose whatsoever except to fuck with the climate scientists. He's proposing it as a "solution" to a problem he doesn't believe exists.

What a total creep.

5 Turkey Jihad  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:25:52pm

re: #4 Charles

Notice that he doesn't even believe in global warming -- so asking this question serves no purpose whatsoever except to fuck with the climate scientists. He's proposing it as a solution to a problem he doesn't believe exists.

What a total creep.

And nice mug shot, too. He looks like he got picked up for a DUI.

6 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:26:29pm
How did we end up in a situation where one of the two major political parties is wandering blind in La La Land, brushing aside the opinions of qualified scientists to blurt out reprehensible and stupid bullshit like this?

These are the consequences of letting religious fanaticism and magical thinking take over. The GOP has spent so long pandering to the ignorant and the delusional and now we're stuck with idiots like Rohrabacher saying that clearing the rainforests will stop global warming.

7 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:26:38pm

maybe he's in the chainsaw business, or a plywood mogul...there just has to be more to it, nobody is that stupid (!?)

8 Amory Blaine  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:27:10pm

Because most of the GOP is comprised of morans.

9 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:28:14pm

fish shit in the sea...get rid of the fish, and we have clean water

10 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:28:47pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

Because most of the GOP is comprised of morans.

I doubt it

11 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:29:29pm
Good grief, people. How did we end up in a situation where one of the two major political parties is wandering blind in La La Land, brushing aside the opinions of qualified scientists to blurt out reprehensible and stupid bullshit like this?

Jesus was his campaign manager?

12 Amory Blaine  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:29:46pm

How did we end up in a situation where one of the two major political parties is wandering blind in La La Land, brushing aside the opinions of qualified scientists to blurt out reprehensible and stupid bullshit like this?

re: #8 Amory Blaine

Because most of the GOP is comprised of morans.

13 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:30:08pm

I for one would like to put forward my plan to stop people from going to jail for marijuana possession by smoking it all myself....

It will be a tough task, but I feel I am up to it, and someone must bear this burden.

///Hey it makes as much sense as his plan does.

14 SpaceJesus  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:30:12pm

The Republican party is probably the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States.

15 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:30:59pm

re: #14 SpaceJesus

Don't tell Lincoln.

16 Amory Blaine  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:31:42pm

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

We're along fucking way from that road man.

17 wrenchwench  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:31:44pm

This reminds me of the time Reagan said trees make smog.

Hey, whaddayaknow!

Rohrabacher served as assistant press secretary to the 1976 and 1980 presidential campaigns of Ronald Reagan.[1] From 1981 to 1988, he was one of President Reagan's senior speech writers. During his tenure at the White House, Rohrabacher played a leading role in the formulation of the Reagan Doctrine.

Wikipedia.

18 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:32:10pm

re: #13 jamesfirecat

There's an Onion for that.

19 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:32:17pm

the dogs are loose!

Youtube Video
20 Interesting Times  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:32:24pm

re: #14 SpaceJesus

The modern Republican party is probably the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States.

Fixed. Teddy Roosevelt (R-back when they were smart) would kick Dana Rohrabacher's ass from here to eternity.

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:32:41pm

re: #16 Amory Blaine

Ya think?
/

22 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:33:10pm

re: #6 Lidane

These are the consequences of letting religious fanaticism and magical thinking take over. The GOP has spent so long pandering to the ignorant and the delusional and now we're stuck with idiots like Rohrabacher saying that clearing the rainforests will stop global warming.

Except that he doesn't even believe in global warming! That's the twisted part of this. He's not really bringing this up as a legitimate idea. He's just sticking a thumb in the scientists' eyes.

23 SpaceJesus  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:34:53pm

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't tell Lincoln.


True true. The modern Republican Party.


(I was just going to say conservatives, but apparently that is touchy)

24 Interesting Times  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:34:56pm

re: #22 Charles

Except that he doesn't even believe in global warming! That's the twisted part of this. He's not really bringing this up as a legitimate idea. He's just sticking a thumb in the scientists' eyes.

It's like all the other stupid denier "jokes" of the "durr hurr, I guess we should stop breathing" variety.

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:37:09pm

I don't believe that "abortion on demand" is an actual thing going on here in The States. But if it were true - and most of the country’s televangelists agree it is - I have a solution.

Radical hysterectomies for all females. Problem solved, no more abortions.
/

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:37:40pm

re: #23 SpaceJesus

Yes. I will poo on you.

27 dragonfire1981  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:41:18pm

I'm a Lumberjack and I'm ok...

28 sagehen  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:41:47pm

re: #14 SpaceJesus

The christianification of the Republican party is probably the worst thing that has ever happened to the United States.

ftfy

29 sagehen  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:43:04pm

re: #20 publicityStunted

Fixed. Teddy Roosevelt (R-back when they were smart) would kick Dana Rohrabacher's ass from here to eternity.

IKE!! Gimme another Ike.

30 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:43:57pm

re: #28 sagehen

ftfy

Don't be too hard on them... I'd have nothing against the Christian Right... if only they were actually Christian..... or right....

31 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:44:54pm

/facepalm

32 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:45:57pm

This is almost as dumb as the guy who said wind farms slow the wind down and make the earth warmer because the wind won't cool it off.

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:47:44pm

This modern GOP does not take this nation's, nor the world's, problems seriously. At least most of the GOP anyway.

It used to be that I didn't think the Dems would take the threat of religiously fanatical terrorists seriously. Obama has proven me wrong.

Sorry, GOP. You're losing me more and more everyday. The further you drift towards being the Juggallo Party, the easier you make it for me to vote Democrat. You only have yourself to blame.

34 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:48:09pm

re: #22 Charles

Except that he doesn't even believe in global warming! That's the twisted part of this. He's not really bringing this up as a legitimate idea. He's just sticking a thumb in the scientists' eyes.

True. But the ignorant and delusional will listen to him and think that he IS bringing it up as a legitimate idea. That's the problem.

The GOP has spent so long pandering to ignorance that we're all paying for it now. =/

35 Batman  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:48:30pm

Next up: plugging volcanoes and antacid for cows.

Problem solved.

36 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:48:55pm

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

This modern GOP does not take this nation's, nor the world's, problems seriously. At least most of the GOP anyway.

It used to be that I didn't think the Dems would take the threat of religiously fanatical terrorists seriously. Obama has proven me wrong.

Sorry, GOP. You're losing me more and more everyday. The further you drift towards being the Juggallo Party, the easier you make it for me to vote Democrat. You only have yourself to blame.

Even if presented with a "sane" Republican, I wouldn't vote for him at this point just to keep the GOP from gaining any sort of traction.

37 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:49:51pm

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Even if presented with a "sane" Republican, I wouldn't vote for him at this point just to keep the GOP from gaining any sort of traction.

I would, locally at least. My vote went to dems and reps alike in the last local election.

38 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:51:14pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

I would, locally at least. My vote went to dems and reps alike in the last local election.

Maybe at a city or county level, anything higher, no way.

39 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:52:08pm

Speaking of rotting vegetation: I grew Scarlet Runner Beans on a trellis last year. In the fall I picked the beans and made soup. I just left the plants alone and let them die back. It seems they went dormant for the winter and are now sending up shoots. Free Beans For Life!

40 dragonfire1981  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:53:05pm

I may flesh this out a bit and page it later but I believe I've found an effective way to maybe convince some people to take action on climate change who otherwise would not.

First, throw out the part where you convince them that man made global warming is occurring (I know this sounds odd but stay with me). Instead try to get them to the point where they realize two basic and important things.


1. Climate change, regardless of cause, IS occurring and having significant effects on our planet.
2. We CAN and should do things to help!

I have a friend who I lost the battle with long ago in trying to convince him that global warming is being caused by man but I have managed to bring him around to the idea that climate change is indeed happening and there are things he can do to help, regardless of his religious beliefs.

I admit this is a simple approach, but sometimes those work the best.

41 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:53:08pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

I would, locally at least. My vote went to dems and reps alike in the last local election.

one of the biggest failures in American politics is that voters practically worship one of the parties and vote accordingly...the level of partisanship is insane right now and will get worse, simply because voters are stupid and misconstrue the notion of civic mindedness...party first!

42 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:53:19pm

Night is Day, White is Black, Good is Evil, Carbon uptake by rain forests is contributing to global warming. *

*Note: only valid in Washington DC during the run up to Presidential elections, not valid with any other offers.

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:53:30pm

Sorry for the early OT, but this is funny.

From Cracked, of course.

44 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:54:03pm

Meanwhile over at Hot Air
HURRICANES, OH NO'S!! Crowder Challenges the NOAA

Youtube Video
45 Interesting Times  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:56:07pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

I would, locally at least. My vote went to dems and reps alike in the last local election.

On an earlier Page, I made this comment on how the modern conservative movement defines itself. I know you don't subscribe to these views, so I'm genuinely interested - what does the word "conservative" mean to you? What beliefs would you prefer it to be defined by?

46 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:57:58pm
“Is there some thought being given to subsidizing the clearing of rainforests Right Wing gasbags in order for some countries to eliminate that production of greenhouse gases?” the California Republican asked Todd Stern, the top U.S. climate diplomat and lead witness at the hearing. “Or would people be supportive of cutting down older trees politicians in order to plant elect younger trees ones as a means to prevent this disaster from happening?”

There, FIFY.

47 nines09  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:58:06pm

I think what he is saying is; "My party is so stupid at this point that this too will pass as wisdom. Nary a negative word will be spoken by those who know the truth, and I am speaking the truth. The only people who will question this are the socialist liberals who love trees and hate people who support truth and tough answers like this." Then he turned to no one in particular and screamed, " You F$&?!/ cattle are next!"

48 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 5:59:51pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

"Global Warming Alarmism". I keep hearing that "ism" from those types.

Why not just go straight to it and call it "Satanic Global Warming Earth Worship Paganism"?

49 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:00:39pm

re: #8 Amory Blaine

Because most of the GOP is comprised of morans.

Although it feels validating to think that, I don't think the GOP is full of morans, morons, or maroons, for that matter. I think they are so steeped in anti-intellectualism, common sense worship and driving by the seat of their pants, anything that looks like it validates their biases, no matter how ridiculous it looks to someone in the know, they'll accept it as a given. Tell them they are wrong, or worse, show them they are wrong and they hunker down in their belief and assume your motives are the real problem.

50 shecky  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:01:16pm

Rohrabacher is a complete idiot. He's how I foil the notion that the Republican party has somehow "just" gotten so crazy in the last three or four years.

I always thought his brushes with show business folks was amusing for his transparent ability to be starstruck.

51 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:01:17pm

re: #45 publicityStunted

On an earlier Page, I made this comment on how the modern conservative movement defines itself. I know you don't subscribe to these views, so I'm genuinely interested - what does the word "conservative" mean to you? What beliefs would you prefer it to be defined by?

Old ones. More in line with the ideals that birthed it. That is, closer to Classical Liberalism.

52 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:03:36pm

okay, after 2 sec of thought, here is my list of the worst people in America...selfish, destructive, mean ass lunatics...

lawyers
liberals
Eagles fans

53 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:06:03pm

re: #23 SpaceJesus

True true. The modern Republican Party.

(I was just going to say conservatives, but apparently that is touchy)

Conservatives (small c) are no more a monolithic group than pot smoking, bleeding heart, crystal sniffing, vaccine hating liberals.

54 Tsuga  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:07:00pm

re: #49 b_sharp

Nail on the head, although from what I see they'll attack your presumed motives and values the moment you disagree with them. If you disagree with them you *must* have bad motivations, and are probably harboring a sinister hidden agenda to boot.

55 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:07:17pm

re: #24 publicityStunted

It's like all the other stupid denier "jokes" of the "durr hurr, I guess we should stop breathing" variety.

Nobody drives SUVs on Mars.

56 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:08:25pm

re: #53 b_sharp

Conservatives (small c) are no more a monolithic group than pot smoking, bleeding heart, crystal sniffing, vaccine hating liberals.

there you have it...
the urge to make sweeping condemnations is not only stupid, it's also destructive....anybody that wants to chop down the rainforests is a loony, regardless of political affiliation...his notion has nothing to do with politics

57 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:09:42pm

re: #53 b_sharp

Conservatives (small c) are no more a monolithic group than pot smoking, bleeding heart, crystal sniffing, vaccine hating liberals.

My favorite comedian of all time...

58 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:09:53pm

LGF is now on Facebook:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

I've had the account for several months, finally getting around to using it. There are a few test posts there.

Facebook's software is amazingly obtuse, for such a popular website.

59 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:10:12pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't believe that "abortion on demand" is an actual thing going on here in The States. But if it were true - and most of the country’s televangelists agree it is - I have a solution.

Radical hysterectomies for all females. Problem solved, no more abortions.
/

Mandatory vasectomies for all men and the castration/lobotomy full meal deal for potential rapists.

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:11:17pm

re: #45 publicityStunted

Further...

“It’s time America realized that there was no gay exemption in the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the Declaration of Independence”

“I don’t have any respect for the religious right. There is no place in this country for practicing religion in politics. That goes for Falwell, Robertson and all the rest of these political preachers. They are a detriment to the country.”

“The religious issues of these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics. The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they gain sufficient strength.”

“Government governs best when it governs least — and stays out of the impossible task of legislating morality. But legislating someone’s version of morality is exactly what we do by perpetuating discrimination against gays.”

But I am just a private citizen. I don't get to define the movement, I only get to define myself.

61 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:11:32pm

re: #59 b_sharp

Mandatory vasectomies for all men and the castration/lobotomy full meal deal for potential rapists.

fine, just leave enough gray matter to be able to pick lettuce...a twofer!

62 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:11:51pm

re: #58 Charles

Just sent you a request.

63 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:15:23pm

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

Further...

But I am just a private citizen. I don't get to define the movement, I only get to define myself.

indeed, and that's exactly what the masses reject....the GOP invented itself to preserve conservative ideals, if they don't it's not my fault...and people that lump me with a political party are wrong about the whole thing...one is not always the same as the other...conservatism is an ideological construct...the republicans are a political party

64 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:15:44pm

re: #62 Lidane

Just sent you a request.

I think I just granted you access to something.

65 Turkey Jihad  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:16:55pm

Global warming isn't possible because God is in charge of everything.
///

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:17:04pm

re: #64 Charles

That is the best acceptance of a "friend request" I have ever read.

67 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:18:17pm

re: #64 Charles

I think I just granted you access to something.

Heh.

68 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:18:36pm

re: #52 albusteve

okay, after 2 sec of thought, here is my list of the worst people in America...selfish, destructive, mean ass lunatics...

lawyers
bleeding heart liberals
Eagles fans

You missed one.

Bruins fans.

Sorry, you missed another.

Astrologers

And a few more.

Naturopaths
Homeopaths
Serial killers
Bulk food dealers
KFC managers
...

69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:18:40pm

re: #58 Charles

Charles? Did you know with that link, people's real names show up on your page? Even if people are not your friends are looking.

70 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:19:45pm

re: #68 b_sharp

You missed one.

Bruins fans.

Sorry, you missed another.

Astrologers

And a few more.

Naturopaths
Homeopaths
Serial killers
Bulk food dealers
KFC managers
...

I had to think fast....I could have added second wives

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:19:58pm

re: #63 albusteve

conservatism is an ideological construct...the republicans are a political party

High five. And I don't care what kind of crap the modern GOP spews about True ConservatismTM. They do not support or promote conservatism. They support and promote theocracy.

72 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:20:22pm

re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Charles? Did you know with that link, people's real names show up on your page? Even if people are not your friends are looking.

True. But there are some privacy controls that can help to set who can see what.

73 austin_blue  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:20:28pm

He represents +/- 700,000 Americans and he keeps getting elected. I guess it indicates that the average IQ is 100 and 50% of the population scores lower. The Average Joe is an idiot.

Yes, yes, elitist me.

74 Interesting Times  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:21:17pm

re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Charles? Did you know with that link, people's real names show up on your page? Even if people are not your friends are looking.

That is, people he accepts as friends, assuming they're using their real names on Facebook. You can change your Facebook settings so your friends list is not visible to people, at all (even if they're Facebook members themselves)

I would strongly suggest that, given the stalkers.

75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:22:51pm

re: #74 publicityStunted

That is, people he accepts as friends, assuming they're using their real names on Facebook. You can change your Facebook settings so your friends list is not visible to people, at all (even if they're Facebook members themselves)

I would strongly suggest that, given the stalkers.

Ya THINK?

Kind of what I was suggesting.

76 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:23:18pm

re: #68 b_sharp

You missed one.

Bruins fans.

Sorry, you missed another.

Astrologers

And a few more.

Naturopaths
Homeopaths
Serial killers
Bulk food dealers
KFC managers
...

I've got a little list, I've got a little list
Of society's offenders who may well be underground
And who never would be missed, they never would be missed.

There's interior designers, window dressers and that sort
And grubbers who retire in strings the minute they get caught
Or those who have their noses pierces, or men who die their hair
Or idiots who host chat shows and disc jockeys everywhere
And customs men who fumbling through your underwear insist
They'd none of them be missed, they'll none of them be missed.

77 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:23:31pm

re: #62 Lidane

Just sent you a request.

I told you before, that wasn't me.

Ya big tattletale.

78 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:23:41pm

re: #73 austin_blue

You're talking about my fellow Californians there. Watch it, or I'll...

... I'll think of something. Eventually.

79 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:24:26pm

re: #73 austin_blue

He represents +/- 700,000 Americans and he keeps getting elected. I guess it indicates that the average IQ is 100 and 50% of the population scores lower. The Average Joe is an idiot.

Yes, yes, elitist me.

I am strongly in favor of term limits

80 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:24:46pm

re: #65 Kid A

Global warming isn't possible because God is in charge of everything.
///

Typical micro-manager, doesn't have a clue how to delegate.

81 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:26:29pm

re: #74 publicityStunted

That is, people he accepts as friends, assuming they're using their real names on Facebook. You can change your Facebook settings so your friends list is not visible to people, at all (even if they're Facebook members themselves)

I would strongly suggest that, given the stalkers.

I would do that anyway. In fact, my own settings only show very limited information except to people I know. Some random person looking me up isn't going to see much info at all.

82 Interesting Times  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:27:01pm

re: #58 Charles

LGF is now on Facebook:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

I've had the account for several months, finally getting around to using it. There are a few test posts there.

Facebook's software is amazingly obtuse, for such a popular website.

Account -> Privacy Settings -> Connecting on Facebook -> "See your Friend List"

(the worst thing about Facebook Settings are, just when you think you finally figured out where everything is, they go and change it all up again, just to mess with your head)

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:27:38pm

re: #82 publicityStunted

Don't go spoiling their fun.

84 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:27:40pm

re: #68 b_sharp

You missed one.

Bruins fans.

Sorry, you missed another.

Astrologers

And a few more.

Naturopaths
Homeopaths
Serial killers
Bulk food dealers
KFC managers
...

Bruins fans.

HEY

85 Romantic Heretic  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:30:42pm

When I look at Rep. Rohrabacher's picture I'm afraid I see him saying "Boy howdy!" about every third paragraph.

Sigh. Shouldn't be judgemental like that but people like him sure make it hard.

86 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:31:42pm

Apolitical Blues
Little Feat
w/the incomparable Mick Taylor
classic

Youtube Video
87 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:33:09pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

Bruins fans.

HEY

Canucks are going to make bear burgers out of them (assuming they win tonight)

88 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:34:34pm

re: #85 Romantic Heretic

When I look at Rep. Rohrabacher's picture I'm afraid I see him saying "Boy howdy!" about every third paragraph.

Sigh. Shouldn't be judgemental like that but people like him sure make it hard.

He got a distinct "Grandpa walked away from the Senior's center, if found, please call" look to him.
///

89 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:34:40pm

"Complete ignorance of the world of science is no longer compatible with survival".

Youtube Video
90 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:38:32pm

BTW, it's possible to sign in to a secure server on Facebook:

Account Settings --> Settings --> Account Security --> Secure Browsing (https)

Just FYI.

91 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:38:37pm

Ignorance is bliss

Youtube Video
92 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:40:31pm

re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He looks like a man with hobbies that are illegal.

93 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:41:27pm

re: #73 austin_blue

He represents +/- 700,000 Americans and he keeps getting elected. I guess it indicates that the average IQ is 100 and 50% of the population scores lower. The Average Joe is an idiot.

Yes, yes, elitist me.

Commonsense is a HE-ELL of lot more important than book learnin' you eleet-ist darwinite, you. Why, hell, I coulda' made that B-52 of yers in my backyard if it had been big enough, cut it out with power tools, and spot welded it together you see, from old Bud lite cans. What's with all them damn rivets anyway? Arma--mor-ma-ment, oh fuck it. I bet I could make a H-bomb fer you in my handloader if you got me the right kind of powder, which ya' won't cuz you pointy-headed intamilecshuls is too busy boffin' hippie girls and smokin' hemp to give the workin' man a chance.

94 Romantic Heretic  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:41:31pm

re: #41 albusteve

one of the biggest failures in American politics is that voters practically worship one of the parties and vote accordingly...the level of partisanship is insane right now and will get worse, simply because voters are stupid and misconstrue the notion of civic mindedness...party first!

This is a phenomena that pleases Hell very much.

95 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:41:46pm

re: #68 b_sharp

add Mary Kay consultants.

96 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:42:09pm

re: #92 theheat

He looks like a man with hobbies that are illegal.

"He's wanted in Nevada for banging cattle."

Sorry, I just love that line, but so rarely get to use it.

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:43:50pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel

"Common sense ain't so common".

98 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:44:02pm

re: #94 Romantic Heretic

This is a phenomena that pleases Hell very much.

nice snag...it speaks for me

99 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:45:05pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Ignorance is bliss

Only until the ignorant elect Rick Scott, then suddenly it has consequences...

/

100 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:45:59pm
Youtube Video
101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:48:04pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Youtube Video
102 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:48:11pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel

Come to think of it, isn't "boff" an elitist usage?

103 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:49:15pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Come to think of it, isn't "boff" an elitist usage?

I had an attorney tell me that once. I'd say that's elitist. Compared to boink, anyway.

104 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:50:03pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Yew know werds 'n stuff!!! Git da eeleetis... ileetis... git the commie!!!

105 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:51:28pm

Gil Scott-Heron, RIP

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

106 prairiefire  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:52:15pm

Spacehog:

Youtube Video
107 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:52:33pm

Dana Tyron Rohrbacher.
Dana tyrOn rOhrbaCHEr.


Okay, it's a stretch but what the hell.

108 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:52:43pm

re: #99 ausador

Only until the ignorant elect Rick Scott, then suddenly it has consequences...

/

why is that sarcasm?

109 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:53:02pm

re: #104 Slumbering Behemoth

Yew know werds 'n stuff!!! Git da eeleetis... ileetis... git the commie!!!

Werds ar fer nerds.

110 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:53:24pm

Birdhouse In Your Soul

Youtube Video

Namaste, y'all
111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:54:56pm

re: #106 prairiefire

Spacehog:

[Video]

They were quite the one hit wonder, eh? Never really dug them, but that song is awesome.

112 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:56:27pm

somehow when I was on the run, I missed how the word douche became synonymous with bad people....I'm sure there is some dickhead with an answer

113 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 6:57:37pm

My favorite one hit wonder. Written for me, of course.

Youtube Video
114 prairiefire  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:00:27pm

The hammer finally dropped for my hard drinking friend. This person has always had a fatalism about their drinking, and a massive tumor has proven it true. I'm still reeling.

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:00:33pm

re: #112 albusteve

When I say "HVAC" into the "speak to text" feature on my phone? It types out "douchebag".

I love "speak to text". Sometimes you get some very interesting first tries.

Sometimes? I send them anyway.

116 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:01:18pm

re: #107 BongCrodny

Dana Tyron Rohrbacher.
Dana tyrOn rOhrbaCHEr.

Okay, it's a stretch but what the hell.

South Park Video
117 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:01:55pm

I'd like to apologize for the gratuitous use of profanity below. I don't use profanity that often, but:

From Wiki:

Dana Rohrabacher voiced support for the Taliban when they seized power in the 1990s, visiting Afghanistan when it came under their control, saying that the Taliban would provide "stability", and eliminate threats to the United States. He also claimed the Taliban "intend to establish a disciplined, moral society". He said he believed complete Taliban control over Afghanistan would be a "positive development", that they were "devout traditionalists, not terrorists or revolutionaries", and that "sensationalist" media coverage of the Taliban's introduction of Sharia law was "nonsense".


O for 5. How the fuck does a guy this fucking horribly wrong keep getting fucking re-elected?

118 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:02:34pm

re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I say "HVAC" into the "speak to text" feature on my phone? It types out "douchebag".

I love "speak to text". Sometimes you get some very interesting first tries.

Sometimes? I send them anyway.

I'm totally ignorant...I have plenty of time to actually talk to people when I have the need...texting is for, ah....others

119 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:02:34pm

re: #112 albusteve

somehow when I was on the run, I missed how the word douche became synonymous with bad people...I'm sure there is some dickhead with an answer

Sorry, that's above my pay grade. I'm only an asshole.

120 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:03:02pm

re: #113 theheat

My favorite one hit wonder. Written for me, of course.

[Video]

That song is so good.

121 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:03:32pm

re: #117 BongCrodny

And nobody wakes up with the sole purpose of rubbing his nose in that every day until the end of time? Remarkable.

122 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:03:54pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry, that's above my pay grade. I'm only an asshole.

hang in there, you may make dickwad yet, from there the sky's the limit

123 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:04:04pm

re: #112 albusteve

somehow when I was on the run, I missed how the word douche became synonymous with bad people...I'm sure there is some dickhead with an answer

A douche is a useless, potentially damaging bag of caustic fluid.

124 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:04:40pm

re: #114 prairiefire

The hammer finally dropped for my hard drinking friend. This person has always had a fatalism about their drinking, and a massive tumor has proven it true. I'm still reeling.

Oh Prairie. Damn.

125 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:05:02pm

re: #117 BongCrodny

I guess theocrats know how to recognize and appreciate their own kind.

126 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:05:45pm

re: #117 BongCrodny

I'd like to apologize for the gratuitous use of profanity below. I don't use profanity that often, but:

From Wiki:


O for 5. How the fuck does a guy this fucking horribly wrong keep getting fucking re-elected?

He fucks the right animal.

127 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:05:46pm

re: #123 b_sharp

A douche is a useless, potentially damaging bag of caustic fluid.

really?...like, fer real?

128 sagehen  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:06:07pm

re: #117 BongCrodny

I'd like to apologize for the gratuitous use of profanity below. I don't use profanity that often, but:

From Wiki:


O for 5. How the fuck does a guy this fucking horribly wrong keep getting fucking re-elected?

wow. How is it that never turned up in campaign ads?

129 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:06:49pm

re: #118 albusteve

Never thought I'd use it. It is very handy at times.

Back before I did text, a (person half my age) coworker sent me a text and followed up with a phone call an hour and a half later?

She said, "Did you get my text?"

I said, "I'm 43 years old; what do you think."

130 Obdicut  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:06:57pm

re: #117 BongCrodny

That was back when only those on the left were the ones making noise about Islamic fundamentalism.

It's a period that the GOP would prefer to sweep under the rug.

And I'm going to go sweep myself under the duvet, now.

131 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:07:06pm

re: #123 b_sharp

A douche is a useless, potentially damaging bag of caustic fluid.


There's a Rush Limbaugh joke in here, right?

132 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:07:16pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry, that's above my pay grade. I'm only an asshole.

You lucky bastard.

I'm just the klingon.

133 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:08:39pm

re: #122 albusteve

hang in there, you may make dickwad yet, from there the sky's the limit

My goal is to one day reach the level of "Douche Turd".

134 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:09:11pm

re: #108 albusteve

Because I was responding to a "straight line" which means that mine had to be at least a little tiny bit silly to be counted as humor.

I could have said:
"Only until the ignorant elect Rick Scott."

Instead I said:
"Only until the ignorant elect Rick Scott, then suddenly it has consequences..."

See? Ha. Ha. Ha.
I understated the second half of the sentence and rather than stating specifics I allowed the reader to conjure up whatever they might have heard lately. This is known as implied humor, it isn't what you said specifically, it is what you led your audience to think of via what you said.

Keep practicing, I'm sure some day you will be able to attempt it yourself if you really try...

/Very Pedantic and not funny X10. :p

135 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:10:38pm

Scarring my kids for eternity, I just convinced them the lyrics to the classic CCR song is "Theres a bathroom on the right"

136 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:11:02pm

re: #134 ausador

Because I was responding to a "straight line" which means that mine had to be at least a little tiny bit silly to be counted as humor.

I could have said:
"Only until the ignorant elect Rick Scott."

Instead I said:
"Only until the ignorant elect Rick Scott, then suddenly it has consequences..."

See? Ha. Ha. Ha.
I understated the second half of the sentence and rather than stating specifics I allowed the reader to conjure up whatever they might have heard lately. This is known as implied humor, it isn't what you said specifically, it is what you led your audience to think of via what you said.

Keep practicing, I'm sure some day you will be able to attempt it yourself if you really try...

/Very Pedantic and not funny X10. :p

deep, very deep

137 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:11:35pm

re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Izzat you, Homer Simpson?

138 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:11:37pm

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

I aim to steal the Dos Equis guy's crown and be known as The Most Interesting Man Slut In The World.

(That means I beat all my sleazy girlfriends out for the award.)

139 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:11:43pm

re: #133 Slumbering Behemoth

My goal is to one day reach the level of "Douche Turd".

What's wrong with simple butt head?

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:12:47pm

re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Big ole' Jed had a light on...

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:14:37pm

re: #139 b_sharp

What's wrong with simple butt head?

Respectable position, but the pay is lousy.

142 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:14:40pm

I don't understand.

143 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:14:58pm

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Women, they do get wooly”.

144 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:15:25pm

re: #135 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Scarring my kids for eternity, I just convinced them the lyrics to the classic CCR song is "Theres a bathroom on the right"


The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind.
The ants, they are blowing in the wind.

145 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:16:13pm

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Big ole' Jed had a light on...

Dude! Listen to it again. It's "Bingo Jed had a light on". Geez!

146 b_sharp  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:17:09pm

re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude! Listen to it again. It's "Bingo Jed had a light on". Geez!

Dingo Jedi had a blight on.

147 Henchman 25  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:17:42pm

re: #52 albusteve

Hatred detected. Fire the Orbital Friendship Beam.

Image: friendshipbeam2.png

148 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:17:58pm

It's kind of dark here. I think I'll turn on the “donzer” (you know, the one that gives off “lee light.”

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:18:22pm

re: #144 BongCrodny

The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind.
The ants, they are blowing in the wind.

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord,
He is trampling down the village where the Great Giraffe is stored

150 Lidane  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:22:08pm

re: #138 theheat

I aim to steal the Dos Equis guy's crown and be known as The Most Interesting Man Slut In The World.

One of my uncles looks almost exactly like that guy. It's hilarious. XD

151 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:23:01pm

Yabba-dabba-do!
Simpson, Homer Simpson
He's the greatest guy in history!
From the town of Springfield
He's about to hit a chestnut tree...
Aaaahhhh!
-Homer Simpson

152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:23:02pm

re: #150 Lidane

One of my uncles looks almost exactly like that guy. It's hilarious. XD

Friend of mine ran into the actor in the airport the other day.

Was very excited.

153 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:23:49pm

re: #147 SteelPH

Hatred detected. Fire the Orbital Friendship Beam.

Image: friendshipbeam2.png

Fellow Brony! Don't leave me hanging...

154 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:24:07pm

re: #150 Lidane

One of my uncles looks almost exactly like that guy. It's hilarious. XD

But do sharks have a week dedicated to your uncle?

155 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:25:49pm

re: #150 Lidane

I secretly suspect that character was based on the adventures of Albusteve.

/oops, fucked up that "secretly" part, didn't I?

156 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:27:00pm

re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Funnier yet, he's Jewish.

157 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:28:17pm

re: #156 theheat

(And I think he's kinda hot for an older guy. )

158 Kragar  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:28:28pm

re: #150 Lidane

One of my uncles looks almost exactly like that guy. It's hilarious. XD

We got a guy who works from home all the time. We printed out a picture of the actor with the caption "I don't always work in the office, but when I do, I use up all the bandwidth" and stuck it on his desk. He laughed his ass off when he finally came in.

159 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:28:41pm

Responding to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher's initiative to eliminate the rain forests Rep. Michelle Bachmann rallied today and suggested that she would put forth legislation she called the "Paving the Earth" initiative.

Not to be outdone by Rep. Rohrabacher, Rep.Bachmann's plan involves plowing, salting, and then paving over with petroleum based asphalt all arable lands within the United states. "Either we will make God come and save us or we will all die of starvation!!! Rep. Bachmann screeched before collapsing convulsively onto the ground and lapsing into random grunting noises. Several Tea Party groups expressed their immediate support for Bachmanns plan although when questioned they did not seem to have any knowledge of what it entailed...

160 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:29:09pm

re: #155 Slumbering Behemoth

I secretly suspect that character was based on the adventures of Albusteve.

/oops, fucked up that "secretly" part, didn't I?

wrong, my mother has no tattoos

161 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:30:25pm

re: #160 albusteve

wrong, my mother has no tattoos

How do you know she doesn't have them where you can't see them?

162 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:31:03pm

re: #161 theheat

How do you know she doesn't have them where you can't see them?

I take her word for it...does your mom lie to you?

163 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:31:03pm

re: #144 BongCrodny

The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind.
The ants, they are blowing in the wind.

"I ate some brains down in Africa"

164 D. Tomeric  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:31:05pm

You ever get the feeling that someone just needs to bring in a picoprojector to these hearings and have Billy Madison's debate moderator queued up and ready to go?

These people are so far beyond common sense, so steeped in their own feedback loop of idiocy, that I genuinely don't think anything short of a catastrophic realignment will fix the problem. It's like watching punctuated equilibrium in action.

165 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:32:06pm

re: #162 albusteve

I take her word for it...does your mom lie to you?

Only about her tattoos.

166 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:32:12pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

"I ate some brains down in Africa"

Africa?

Youtube Video
167 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:32:13pm

re: #162 albusteve

I take her word for it...does your mom lie to you?

Yes, if chocolate is involved.

But I expect this and I know where she keeps her stashes.

There is no filial loyalty where chocolate is concerned.

168 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:33:27pm

re: #165 theheat

Only about her tattoos.

my mom lied to me once...I beat her senseless....
last time she pulled that shit

169 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:34:39pm

re: #168 albusteve

Seems a bit... harsh?

170 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:35:52pm

re: #166 albusteve

Africa?

[Video]

Yep, as soon as I typed that I played it. It's playing now.

I caught some rays down in Africa.

I ate some rays down in Africa

171 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:37:02pm

re: #169 theheat

Seems a bit... harsh?

I jest...my mom will be 90 in July and she is still very sharp....
your hair is too long
why don't you trim your beard?
you never eat enough
put away that weed stuff
you drive too fast
you never call
etc

172 Varek Raith  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:38:19pm

re: #171 albusteve

I jest...my mom will be 90 in July and she is still very sharp...
your hair is too long
why don't you trim your beard?
you never eat enough
put away that weed stuff
you drive too fast
you never call
etc

TURN DOWN THAT ROCK AND OR ROLL!
/

173 windsagio  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:38:24pm

re: #166 albusteve

Always amazes me that you like that, doesn't seem your kind of song >

174 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:38:47pm

re: #168 albusteve

:(

175 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:39:07pm

re: #173 windsagio

Always amazes me that you like that, doesn't seem your kind of song >

don't judge, just go with the flow

176 theheat  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:39:50pm

re: #171 albusteve

Whew, I thought maybe you were guilty of elder abuse. (They're only tattoos!)
//

Mr. Heat's gone for the weekend, I have a half gallon of chocolate milk, the terrier, and a stack of yet-unseen delightfully dreadful B horror movies calling.

Later.

177 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:40:42pm

re: #175 albusteve

He's an exceptional multi-tasker. I've seen him do both on multiple occasions.

178 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:41:13pm

re: #156 theheat

Silly, Jewish people aren't actors...
/

179 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:41:55pm

re: #168 albusteve

my mom lied to me once...I beat her senseless...
last time she pulled that shit

I think you're a liar, Mr. Steve...on this one occasion.

180 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:42:59pm

Hey, folks ~~

At the risk of spoiling the party, the "misinterpreted lyrics" thing is called a "mondegreen."

I've never mentioned this here before, but for the past several years, I've written a weekly trivia quiz at a local pub in beautiful downtown Herndon, Virginia. One of our most popular "recurring" trivia sheets has been our Mondegreens sheet, which has sometimes been called "Mondegreens" and sometimes "Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza." Here's a few shining examples of Mondegreens that our customers really liked or really hated. I'll let you guys decide which was which.

Please note that I swiped these from numerous sites, so blame the writers, not the thief, okay?

"Dirty deeds, done to sheep." -- AC/DC

"Do a little dance, make a little rum, Italian ice! Italian ice! -- K.C. & The Sunshine Band

"No Dukes of Hazzard in the classroom..." -- Pink Floyd

"She's got a tick in her eye..." -- The Beatles

"Cause I'm as free as a turd, now, and this turd juice cannot change." -- Lynyrd Skynyrd

"There's a skeleton choking on a cross bow head..." -- The Police

"Bake me a pie of love." -- Steve Winwood

"Bring me an iron lung." -- Steve Winwood

"Some day, buddy, some day..." -- U2

"You made the rice, I made the gravy..." -- Billy Joel

"I've got the runs like a rolling bolt of thunder..." -- Frankie Valli and the 4 Seasons

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:43:33pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

Oh, that's a new one on me. Thanks.

182 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:43:58pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

"I ate some brains down in Africa"

I really like that steven tyler song;
"Do me like a lady"

183 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:44:01pm

re: #180 BongCrodny

Hey, folks ~~

At the risk of spoiling the party, the "misinterpreted lyrics" thing is called a "mondegreen."

I've never mentioned this here before, but for the past several years, I've written a weekly trivia quiz at a local pub in beautiful downtown Herndon, Virginia. One of our most popular "recurring" trivia sheets has been our Mondegreens sheet, which has sometimes been called "Mondegreens" and sometimes "Hold Me Closer, Tony Danza." Here's a few shining examples of Mondegreens that our customers really liked or really hated. I'll let you guys decide which was which.

Please note that I swiped these from numerous sites, so blame the writers, not the thief, okay?

Secret Asian Man....

184 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:44:21pm

re: #183 EmmmieG

Secret Asian Man...


No, wait, I ruined it. *sob*

It's "Seasick Asian Man."

185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:45:02pm

re: #180 BongCrodny

"Dirty deeds, done to sheep." -- AC/DC

"Thirty thieves and the Thunder Chief."

186 prairiefire  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:45:41pm

re: #157 theheat

(And I think he's kinda hot for an older guy. )

He is.

187 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:46:05pm

OK, after thinking about Africa by Toto I'm playing my old ipod. (it hasn't been updated in years) But damn it's good.

Right now, the playlist FUNK.

Dropped the Bomb on me.

Youtube Video

(I did this quite pretty successfully @ karaoke, the best part was the surprise of the audience)

188 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:47:08pm

re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist

I think you're a liar, Mr. Steve...on this one occasion.

I am...
my mom is a blast...I've hauled her old butt to Jamaica five times, Vegas, Puerto Vallarta, Cancun, NYC...we always had a ton of fun...she's been to ABQ a few times...dear old mum, my good buddy

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:49:24pm

re: #188 albusteve

Now, see what you just did to me?

Thanks. That was sweet.

190 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:50:10pm

Boston wins an exciting game 7 for the Prince of Wales trophy and reaches the finals to play against the Vancouver Canucks for the Stanley Cup...the best championship trophy in sports.

Evening lizards!

191 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:51:09pm

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now, see what you just did to me?

Thanks. That was sweet.

just sharing the vibe bro...both my parents are terrific people...my dad's long gone and I miss him so much I could still cry over it

192 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:51:33pm

OK, tell me when to stop, but this song, this song is a dance song.

Youtube Video

Actually an aerobics song.

193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:51:35pm

re: #191 albusteve

I dig.

194 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:52:47pm

re: #180 BongCrodny

Sounds like good fun. I have a dorky kind of love for that sort of thing, I didn't know it had a name.

I used to have a girlfriend that would sing the following lyrics of a TOOL song as:

"I can say what I want to, even if I'm not serious"
"People tell me what to say, is that the game you want to play"

The actual lyrics are:

"I can't say what I want to, even if I'm not serious"
"People tell me what to say, what to think and what to play"

I would just quietly snicker at her.

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:55:00pm

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

She's got electric boobs;
Her mom has two...

(My favorite Mondegreen.)

196 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:55:24pm

re: #191 albusteve

You're a fortunate man, Steve. I haven't spoken to my dad in over ten years. I guaran-gawddamn-tee you that he's just as happy with that arrangement as I am.

197 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:57:15pm

re: #166 albusteve

Africa?

[Video]

A longtime favorite of mine. I've liked that song for over 25 years.

198 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:57:22pm

re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I dig.

a week or so back I was sorting old pics and I looked again at one of my priceless treasures....my dad and seven of his pals holding up a Japanese battle flag they won on Saipan...rifles, helmets cocked, unshaven tough guys...my dad is so handsome he looks like a movie star crouched there in this classic old picture and the pride almost overwhelms me...I wear his Marine Corp ring nonstop...this gold ring is my most valuable possesion

199 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:58:45pm

re: #187 Stanley Sea

OK, after thinking about Africa by Toto I'm playing my old ipod. (it hasn't been updated in years) But damn it's good.

Right now, the playlist FUNK.

Dropped the Bomb on me.

[Video](I did this quite pretty successfully @ karaoke, the best part was the surprise of the audience)

I did "Guns in the Sky" one night and left everyone speechless for about two minutes. Short song so you can torture your vocal cords without breaking before the end, besides I have sung along to it for years, I know every twist and inflection of how it should sound.

Definitely makes for a nice warm smug feeling, especially after having eight or nine pints...which is the only way my buddies could have talked me into going up on stage to start with, LOL. ;)

200 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 7:59:23pm

park yer cart and hunker down for this one...
meant to be played seriously loud

Youtube Video
201 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:00:18pm

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She's got electric boobs;
Her mom has two...

(My favorite Mondegreen.)


B-B-B-Betty in a dress.

202 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:01:34pm

re: #200 albusteve

park yer cart and hunker down for this one...
meant to be played seriously loud

[Video]

It's hard to think of a "breakup song" that exceeds this one. Toto set a very high bar with this one.

203 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:02:06pm

re: #199 ausador

I did "Guns in the Sky" one night and left everyone speechless for about two minutes. Short song so you can torture your vocal cords without breaking before the end, besides I have sung along to it for years, I know every twist and inflection of how it should sound.

Definitely makes for a nice warm smug feeling, especially after having eight or nine pints...which is the only way my buddies could have talked me into going up on stage to start with, LOL. ;)

I've never tried Karaoke. I can't think of any group of people I dislike so much as to subject them to that.

204 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:02:22pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

It's hard to think of a "breakup song" that exceeds this one. Toto set a very high bar with this one.

the break nearly blows out my windows...Bose are smokin

205 windsagio  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:02:49pm

re: #177 Slumbering Behemoth

Youtube Video
206 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:02:50pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

It's hard to think of a "breakup song" that exceeds this one. Toto set a very high bar with this one.

Adele now has a whole album.

Although, Tom Petty's "You Tell Me" is a good one when you feel lousy.

207 windsagio  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:04:03pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

As compared to a 'we should break up and don't song'

Youtube Video

(repeat >>)

208 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:04:37pm

re: #206 EmmmieG

Adele now has a whole album.

Although, Tom Petty's "You Tell Me" is a good one when you feel lousy.

Petty!
oh jeez

Youtube Video
209 Nervous Norvous  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:05:38pm

re: #203 EmmmieG

I've never tried Karaoke. I can't think of any group of people I dislike so much as to subject them to that.

karaoke : Japanese for "can't sing for shit. "

210 Nervous Norvous  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:07:10pm

re: #206 EmmmieG

Adele now has a whole album.

Although, Tom Petty's "You Tell Me" is a good one when you feel lousy.

21 by adele is quite good

211 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:08:05pm

re: #206 EmmmieG

Adele now has a whole album.

Although, Tom Petty's "You Tell Me" is a good one when you feel lousy.

I think that Kelly Clarkson has had some good ones, too:

Youtube Video
212 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:08:08pm

re: #210 pt barnum

21 by adele is quite good

I've now counted Rolling in the Deep (which is a breakup song) on five different radio stations.

Not the country ones.

Yet.

213 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:08:13pm

re: #208 albusteve

Petty!
oh jeez

[Video]


My favorite Petty moment was a couple summers ago.

At a concert in Virginia, in the middle of the show he just kinda sorta nonchalantly asked "Anybody wanna hear a Traveling Wilburys song?" and then launched into "End of the Line."

214 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:09:12pm

check out the stage...it's a Gibson Flying V....how cool is that?

Youtube Video
215 Nervous Norvous  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:10:15pm

re: #212 EmmmieG

I've now counted Rolling in the Deep (which is a breakup song) on five different radio stations.

Not the country ones.

Yet.

rumor has it is my personal favorite always liked pissed off. bitter little pill anyone?

216 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:11:18pm

re: #213 BongCrodny

My favorite Petty moment was a couple summers ago.

At a concert in Virginia, in the middle of the show he just kinda sorta nonchalantly asked "Anybody wanna hear a Traveling Wilburys song?" and then launched into "End of the Line."

yeah, that Wilbury gig was accidental for Petty...we got real lucky there

Youtube Video
217 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:11:46pm

re: #213 BongCrodny

My favorite Petty moment was a couple summers ago.

At a concert in Virginia, in the middle of the show he just kinda sorta nonchalantly asked "Anybody wanna hear a Traveling Wilburys song?" and then launched into "End of the Line."

Damn Roy Orbison for dieing and breaking them up!... J/K

218 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:11:46pm

re: #215 pt barnum

rumor has it is my personal favorite always liked pissed off. bitter little pill anyone?

I've listened to a couple of her covers now, and I'm guessing she could sing my grocery list and make it sound meaningful.

219 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:12:34pm

re: #214 albusteve

check out the stage...it's a Gibson Flying V...how cool is that?

[Video]

Pretty cool.

Here are some people in a Detroit bar drinking beer from the Stanley Cup. Now that is very cool.

Youtube Video
220 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:14:15pm

re: #216 albusteve

yeah, that Wilbury gig was accidental for Petty...we got real lucky there

[Video]


As far as I'm concerned, "Vol. One" was as fine an album as has ever been recorded.

221 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:15:40pm

re: #219 njdhockeyfan

Pretty cool.

Here are some people in a Detroit bar drinking beer from the Stanley Cup. Now that is very cool.

[Video]

a large part of my heart still digs Detroit and all that it means...rock and roll heaven then sports...don't get no better...I got to get up there and snoop around again and see how things are...

222 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:16:27pm

Pretty much every song the Wilbury's did you could tell they were having fun with it, you could hear it, I kinda think that was the point. It isn't like any of them needed the money really...

223 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:17:24pm

re: #220 BongCrodny

As far as I'm concerned, "Vol. One" was as fine an album as has ever been recorded.

maybe...it's a fine choice anyway...I've posed the entire thing and usually nobody says a word about them...too bad

Youtube Video
224 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:17:51pm

re: #221 albusteve

a large part of my heart still digs Detroit and all that it means...rock and roll heaven then sports...don't get no better...I got to get up there and snoop around again and see how things are...

I've never been to Detroit but I would like to visit one day. I hear the food is fantastic.

225 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:18:56pm

re: #220 BongCrodny

As far as I'm concerned, "Vol. One" was as fine an album as has ever been recorded.

I was sitting in my pottery class at college. The teacher put on a tape as we were throwing pots. About three songs in, I turned to the teacher and said, "One of them sounds a lot like Tom Petty." (At that point I owned all of Petty's albums.)

"Yes," he said, "and one of them sounds like George Harrison, and one of them sounds like Roy Orbison, and one of them sounds like Jeff Lynne, and one of them sounds like Bob Dylan."

The really sad part is that my college is a pretty un-hip place, and I think that the two of us were the only two that understood what he was saying.

226 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:19:43pm

re: #222 ausador

Pretty much every song the Wilbury's did you could tell they were having fun with it, you could hear it, I kinda think that was the point. It isn't like any of them needed the money really...

the writing and arrangements are absolutely perfect...it was only ever a reason to record with Roy

227 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:21:15pm

I dig her parts and service....
Wilburys

Youtube Video
228 Bubblehead II  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:22:10pm

Thank You Charles.

229 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:22:15pm

re: #223 albusteve

maybe...it's a fine choice anyway...I've posed the entire thing and usually nobody says a word about them...too bad

[Video]


I was living in Massachusetts in 1988, and a buddy of mine decided to come down for a visit. When we talked he said "see if you can find something to do."

The night he got there Roy Orbison was playing at the Channel. I tried to talk him into it, but he saw Orbison as a relic, and he had worked all day, and he had just drove four hours all the way from Maine, and blah blah blah.

So instead we sat around the apartment shooting the shit, drinking beer and stuffing our faces from Legal Seafood.

It was Orbison's last show.

230 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:22:25pm

re: #224 njdhockeyfan

I've never been to Detroit but I would like to visit one day. I hear the food is fantastic.

a lot of history up there...it's very sad, the demise of such a fine city

231 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:22:39pm

Tom Petty had some fun with Cool Dry Place.

Youtube Video
232 njdhockeyfan  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:23:59pm

re: #230 albusteve

a lot of history up there...it's very sad, the demise of such a fine city

How could George Bush let that happen?!?
//

233 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:24:22pm

re: #229 BongCrodny

I was living in Massachusetts in 1988, and a buddy of mine decided to come down for a visit. When we talked he said "see if you can find something to do."

The night he got there Roy Orbison was playing at the Channel. I tried to talk him into it, but he saw Orbison as a relic, and he had worked all day, and he had just drove four hours all the way from Maine, and blah blah blah.

So instead we sat around the apartment shooting the shit, drinking beer and stuffing our faces from Legal Seafood.

It was Orbison's last show.

my buddy had to talk me into going 5 miles to see SRV, so I did...two nights later he was killed

234 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:26:22pm

re: #229 BongCrodny

I was living in Massachusetts in 1988, and a buddy of mine decided to come down for a visit. When we talked he said "see if you can find something to do."

The night he got there Roy Orbison was playing at the Channel. I tried to talk him into it, but he saw Orbison as a relic, and he had worked all day, and he had just drove four hours all the way from Maine, and blah blah blah.

So instead we sat around the apartment shooting the shit, drinking beer and stuffing our faces from Legal Seafood.

It was Orbison's last show.


Ah, me.

Research proves me wrong. It turns out Orbison's last show was in Ohio, so we must have had the "second to the last show" or "third to the last show" option.

The story loses a lot upon correction. :-)

235 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:27:52pm

re: #232 njdhockeyfan

How could George Bush let that happen?!?
//

when I was growing up Detroit was the 4th biggest city in the country...we used to go to rock and roll shows at the Grande Ballroom, the EastTown, Cobo Hall and a couple other joints...drive 150mi. walk up and pay $15 and see Cream, or Led Zep or anybody else in town...really cool for me

236 Velvet Elvis  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:28:02pm

re: #223 albusteve

maybe...it's a fine choice anyway...I've posed the entire thing and usually nobody says a word about them...too bad

[Video]

I've been able to play every song on that album since I was in high school. Can't sing the RO parts though.

237 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:28:31pm

re: #232 njdhockeyfan

How could George Bush let that happen?!?
//

Because George Bush doesn't like black people!

/Kanye West AKA 'jackass'

238 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:29:23pm

re: #234 BongCrodny

Ah, me.

Research proves me wrong. It turns out Orbison's last show was in Ohio, so we must have had the "second to the last show" or "third to the last show" option.

The story loses a lot upon correction. :-)

tell me about it...it all runs together, and somebody will ask me did you ever see the Stones? and I have to stop and think where and when and sometimes I'm wrong

239 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:31:01pm

re: #236 Conservative Moonbat

I've been able to play every song on that album since I was in high school. Can't sing the RO parts though.

nice, you have good taste...I have never seen one member of that band in any config...I'd love to see Petty someday, better be soon, eh?

240 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:31:08pm

re: #229 BongCrodny

Youth is wasted on youth.

Legal Seafood is very good indeed.

241 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:32:01pm

re: #203 EmmmieG

I've never tried Karaoke. I can't think of any group of people I dislike so much as to subject them to that.

Every time I do it (3) I wake up the next morning with huge regret.

242 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:32:29pm

re: #239 albusteve

nice, you have good taste...I have never seen one member of that band in any config...I'd love to see Petty someday, better be soon, eh?

that was wrong...I've seen Dylan a couple of times...see what I mean?
ahahaha!

243 Velvet Elvis  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:33:03pm

re: #239 albusteve

re: #239 albusteve

nice, you have good taste...I have never seen one member of that band in any config...I'd love to see Petty someday, better be soon, eh?

I saw Dylan a couple years ago just because I wanted to see him while he was still around and was severely underwhelmed. Supposedly he's still capable of putting on a good show when he's in the mood though.

244 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:33:47pm

A favorite, partially for the video...partially for the tune...partially for the meaning of the tune. I still always think of this song as "Yellow" instead of "Inside out."


Youtube Video
245 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:34:22pm

re: #243 Conservative Moonbat

re: #239 albusteve

I saw Dylan a couple years ago just because I wanted to see him while he was still around and was severely underwhelmed. Supposedly he's still capable of putting on a good show when he's in the mood though.

no he isn't...I was very disappointed with Dylan and have said so here many times...a studio guy, don't waste the money

246 prairiefire  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:35:02pm

re: #241 Stanley Sea

Every time I do it (3) I wake up the next morning with huge regret.

And you started with such enthusiasm! I would love to see it. : )

247 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:35:38pm

re: #231 ausador

Tom Petty had some fun with Cool Dry Place.

[Video]


Are you familiar with his Mudcrutch project?

Lots of fun, and a real nice story to boot.

Mudcrutch - "The Story"

Youtube Video
248 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:36:32pm

re: #239 albusteve

nice, you have good taste...I have never seen one member of that band in any config...I'd love to see Petty someday, better be soon, eh?

I saw Tom Petty in Miami, probably in the late 80s, maybe early 90s. The show was great but the thing I remember... we had parked downtown and taken the Miami Metromover to the old Miami Arena (now torn down). Anyway, Petty didn't sing American Girl and in the train car on the ride back, everyone was commenting about it. The car was packed, like 30 people. All of a sudden one guy goes, "Well, she was an American girl." And another guy goes, "Raised on promises." And pretty soon, the entire car was singing and dancing and grooving and what not. It was super cool.

249 Velvet Elvis  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:37:05pm

re: #245 albusteve

no he isn't...I was very disappointed with Dylan and have said so here many times...a studio guy, don't waste the money

I've heard bootlegs of actual good shows he's put on, granted none from the past 15 years, but at least once upon a time it could happen.

250 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:37:16pm

re: #244 ausador

A favorite, partially for the video...partially for the tune...partially for the meaning of the tune. I still always think of this song as "Yellow" instead of "Inside out."

[Video]

always sort of bummed me out that Jim Keltner never was a Wilbury...one monster drummer, and a true superstar...he was 'cousin'

251 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:37:54pm

re: #241 Stanley Sea

Every time I do it (3) I wake up the next morning with huge regret.

I you sure that not just the hangover? :D

252 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:38:42pm

re: #58 Charles

LGF is now on Facebook:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

I've had the account for several months, finally getting around to using it. There are a few test posts there.

Facebook's software is amazingly obtuse, for such a popular website.

Just for the record, I am not on Facebook. Never have been, likely never will be. So if someone with my nic wants to "friend" you, that ain't me. Tell 'em to fuck off.

Knowing how the stalkers behave, and all that.

253 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:39:41pm

re: #248 marjoriemoon

I saw Tom Petty in Miami, probably in the late 80s, maybe early 90s. The show was great but the thing I remember... we had parked downtown and taken the Miami Metromover to the old Miami Arena (now torn down). Anyway, Petty didn't sing American Girl and in the train car on the ride back, everyone was commenting about it. The car was packed, like 30 people. All of a sudden one guy goes, "Well, she was an American girl." And another guy goes, "Raised on promises." And pretty soon, the entire car was singing and dancing and grooving and what not. It was super cool.

yeah, crazy stuff happens in a supercharged environment like that...I have a bunch of my own lies to spread, hahaha!...chasing down good music was my whole existence for decades

254 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:42:38pm

re: #58 Charles

LGF is now on Facebook:

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

I've had the account for several months, finally getting around to using it. There are a few test posts there.

Facebook's software is amazingly obtuse, for such a popular website.

Oop didn't see this post! Woot Woot!

255 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:42:49pm

re: #252 Slumbering Behemoth

Just for the record, I am not on Facebook. Never have been, likely never will be. So if someone with my nic wants to "friend" you, that ain't me. Tell 'em to fuck off.

Knowing how the stalkers behave, and all that.

I just created an account with a variation of my nic. As I have stated before, I have minor children in the house.

256 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:43:31pm

Oh, hell. My account just has my name on it. Everybody knows my name by now, anyhow.

257 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:43:41pm

re: #249 Conservative Moonbat

I've heard bootlegs of actual good shows he's put on, granted none from the past 15 years, but at least once upon a time it could happen.

maybe, I'm done with him...his creativity is all done I think, as it should be I guess

258 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:43:42pm

re: #248 marjoriemoon

I saw Tom Petty in Miami, probably in the late 80s, maybe early 90s. The show was great but the thing I remember... we had parked downtown and taken the Miami Metromover to the old Miami Arena (now torn down). Anyway, Petty didn't sing American Girl and in the train car on the ride back, everyone was commenting about it. The car was packed, like 30 people. All of a sudden one guy goes, "Well, she was an American girl." And another guy goes, "Raised on promises." And pretty soon, the entire car was singing and dancing and grooving and what not. It was super cool.


Not only is Petty a great show, but he's traditionally kept his ticket prices affordable. I saw him five or six years ago and lawn seats were only $20.

That's pretty awesome for a guy who packs 'em in like Petty does.

259 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:43:46pm

Woot! Woot! Is like totally 1990s isn't it.

And saying "totally" is like 1980s.

What's "like" like?

260 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:45:53pm

re: #258 BongCrodny

Not only is Petty a great show, but he's traditionally kept his ticket prices affordable. I saw him five or six years ago and lawn seats were only $20.

That's pretty awesome for a guy who packs 'em in like Petty does.

that's interesting...good for him
I was gonna go see Geo Thorogood last winter but tickets were like $80 inside a friggin casino...no dice George

261 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:45:55pm

re: #259 marjoriemoon

What's "like" like?

I can't get behind that.

262 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:46:12pm

Btw, Charles, I logged into Facebook and couldn't see anything but yer Face and your wall. No photos or friends. Cool beans.

263 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:46:32pm

I just checked The Princess's facebook account. She currently:

Lives in Helsinki, Finland (news to me)
Is from Istanbul (also news to me)
Knows English, Francais, Swahili, Pig Latin, Jibberish, Sarasm (fluent), and English with a Russian accent.
For some reason her current address is Beijing. Perhaps she has a wormhole she has not told me about.

264 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:47:08pm

re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth

I can't get behind that.

No way. William Shatner. You rock, dude.

265 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:47:35pm

re: #263 EmmmieG

I just checked The Princess's facebook account. She currently:

Lives in Helsinki, Finland (news to me)
Is from Istanbul (also news to me)
Knows English, Francais, Swahili, Pig Latin, Jibberish, Sarasm (fluent), and English with a Russian accent.
For some reason her current address is Beijing. Perhaps she has a wormhole she has not told me about.

LOL.
She currently lives in Helsinki, Finland, but has an address in Beijing? hahaha.

266 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:47:49pm

re: #250 albusteve

always sort of bummed me out that Jim Keltner never was a Wilbury...one monster drummer, and a true superstar...he was 'cousin'


Keltner's Wiki Bio:

In addition to his work with three of the Beatles, Keltner, as a free-lance drummer, has also worked with Leon Russell, Gabor Szabo, Delaney Bramlett, Roy Orbison, Harry Nilsson, Jerry Garcia, Eric Clapton, Steely Dan, Joe Cocker, Van Dyke Parks, the Rolling Stones, Ronnie Wood, Bill Wyman, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Brian Wilson, Seals and Crofts, The Ramones, Bill Frisell, Neil Young, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, Phil Keaggy, Steve Jones, Crowded House, Fiona Apple, Elvis Costello, The Bee Gees, Jackson Browne, The Manhattan Transfer, Randy Newman, Ry Cooder, Sam Phillips, Los Lobos, Pink Floyd, Warren Zevon, Rufus Wainwright, Tom Petty, Gillian Welch, the Steve Miller Band, Alice Cooper, Sheryl Crow and Lucinda Williams among many others.

267 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:47:55pm

here's a hell of a good show...
Hiatt and the Goners

Youtube Video
268 jaunte  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:49:23pm

re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord,
He is trampling down the village where the Great Giraffe is stored

That's getting group laughter on this end.

269 albusteve  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:50:15pm

re: #266 BongCrodny

Keltner's Wiki Bio:

ha!...Manhattan Transfer...
used to blog with Laurel Masse...what a sweetheart

270 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:51:01pm

re: #264 marjoriemoon

No way. William Shatner. You rock, dude.

William Shatner and Henry Fucking Rollins!

Some other Lizard linked that a week or two ago. Wish I could remember who, to give 'em a proper hat tip.

271 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:54:47pm

re: #263 EmmmieG

I just checked The Princess's facebook account. She currently:

Lives in Helsinki, Finland (news to me)
Is from Istanbul (also news to me)
Knows English, Francais, Swahili, Pig Latin, Jibberish, Sarasm (fluent), and English with a Russian accent.
For some reason her current address is Beijing. Perhaps she has a wormhole she has not told me about.

Damn, multiculturalism strikes again ehh?

/

272 BongCrodny  Fri, May 27, 2011 8:55:51pm

re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth

I can't get behind that.


There was a three or four month span back in 2005 when I was convinced that the William Shatner/Joe Jackson song "Common People" was the greatest song in the world.

It went on every mix tape I made, regardless of format. Had I recorded recorded tapes of Gregorian chants, Appalachian country or death metal, it probably would have gone on those too.

William Shatner/Joe Jackson "Common People"

Youtube Video
273 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:01:15pm

re: #271 ausador

Damn, multiculturalism strikes again ehh?

/

re: #271 ausador

Damn, multiculturalism strikes again ehh?

/

I knew she spoke Sarcasm.

We're a bi-lingual family.

274 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:08:01pm

re: #251 Dark_Falcon

I you sure that not just the hangover? :D

Oh, yes. How would I ever Karaoke if I wasn't uh, clouded?

275 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:08:15pm

re: #272 BongCrodny

I can honestly say I have never heard that one before in my life, now perhaps if I try to block it hard enough I can forget I ever did?

/ ;)

276 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:08:29pm

re: #259 marjoriemoon

Woot! Woot! Is like totally 1990s isn't it.

And saying "totally" is like 1980s.

What's "like" like?

"Like, Whatever!" :D

277 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:08:35pm

re: #272 BongCrodny

"Laugh along even though they're laughing at you and the stupid things that you do 'cuz you think that 'poor' is 'cool'".

Fooking awesome. Hipsters in a nutshell.

278 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:09:29pm

re: #268 jaunte

That's getting group laughter on this end.

Share it with Floral. Shee'll get a kick out of it.

279 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:09:32pm

re: #258 BongCrodny

Not only is Petty a great show, but he's traditionally kept his ticket prices affordable. I saw him five or six years ago and lawn seats were only $20.

That's pretty awesome for a guy who packs 'em in like Petty does.

AND Tom Petty is from Gainesville Florida. Go Gators!

280 jaunte  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:10:37pm

re: #261 Slumbering Behemoth

I can't get behind that.

Henry Rollins on Ben Folds, William Shatner, Adrian Belew, and Scallop Man (part 1, part 2)

281 bratwurst  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:10:44pm

re: #277 Slumbering Behemoth

"Laugh along even though they're laughing at you and the stupid things that you do 'cuz you think that 'poor' is 'cool'".

Fooking awesome. Hipsters in a nutshell.

Let's not ignore the original version of the song...absolutely took over all of Europe in 1995.

Youtube Video
282 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:13:06pm

Goodnight folks, my bed and nagging tired cranky cat are calling, he needs his warm human shaped pillow I guess...

Have a good night all. :)

283 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:15:00pm

re: #281 bratwurst

Let's not ignore the original version of the song...absolutely took over all of Europe in 1995.

[Video]

Nah. I'm capable of ignoring any number of things.
/

284 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:19:41pm

re: #280 jaunte

I disagree with Henry on a wide variety of political subjects, but I could definitely hang with that dude.

/at least until he started in with his teetotaler routine.

285 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:25:55pm

re: #284 Slumbering Behemoth

Ever watch the video of his story about the murder of Joe Cole?

286 Stanghazi  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:30:13pm

And she could hear the cars running by out on 441 (the G-Ville highway)

Hey MM for you.

Youtube Video
287 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:31:15pm

re: #285 negativ

Izzat the one where the local cops tried to pin the murder on Henry? Not seen it, but heard it on a "spoken rant" album of his. If that is in fact the same thing you're talking about.

288 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:45:12pm

Ugh. There's entirely too much social networking to keep up with!

289 funky chicken  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:45:27pm

I'm not even gonna read this idiot's comments or his "source documents" any further, but I have to ask: if you cut down old trees to reduce their release of carbon dioxide through decay, why do you do with them? Burn them? Sheesh.

How about if we just pour lots of super-glue into volcanoes to prevent eruptions?

Or, for a serious suggestion, how about we just encourage Europeans to grow their own soybeans instead of importing so many of them from Brazil?
[Link: environment.nationalgeographic.com...]

290 funky chicken  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:48:56pm
For Cargill, a Minnesota-based food conglomerate, the greatest urgency lies in getting soybeans to market as cheaply as possible. Anticipating the eventual completion of BR-163, Cargill opened a warehouse and deepwater port in Santarém in 2003. Until it can transport soy beans there by road, Cargill, like Maggi, has been moving much of it by barge via the Madeira River. "We've exported close to two million tons [1.8 million metric tons]," Douglas Odoni, the plant's operation manager, told me with pride. We stood on a catwalk above the Cypriot-flagged freighter Evdoxos as a giant nozzle disgorged soybeans into the vessels belly at the rate of 1,350 tons (1,220 metric tons) an hour. Within two weeks,the Evdoxos would dock in Amsterdam and unload 52,000 tons (47,000 metric tons) of Brazilian soybeans at a crush plant that makes oil and animal feed. "They buy only from us," Odoni yelled above the din of the machinery.

Cargill's operations in the Amazon have been controversial from the start. Federal prosecutors are suing the company over its alleged failure to provide an adequate environmental impact study of the port. Cargill's installation of a soybean washer and dryer has infuriated forest defenders, whose protests have repeatedly closed down the plant. To avoid spoilage, soybeans must be cleaned before they are transported, and for farmers around Santarém, it was only after the arrival of the washer and dryer that they had an incentive to grow it. Deforestation in the area has soared. "Maybe it's true that if Cargill weren't here, they wouldn't plant soy," Odoni conceded. But "if they couldn't sell soybeans to us, there would be no taxes and revenues for the local community."

Last summer, Cargill and Brazil's other big soy traders agreed to a two-year moratorium on buying soy grown on newly deforested land in the Amazon. The agreement is sending a signal to soy producers that the environmental impact of their operations is increasingly important in the world marketplace.

For many in the community of Belterra, an hour's drive south of Santarém, the moratorium comes too late. As the head of the Rural Workers Union local, Auricelia Núnes, 33, represents some 5,000 farming families. These people, she said, had been coaxing a decent living from their small plots, when, in the late 1990s, outsiders from southern Brazil began buying up property at a pittance. "There are many small farmers who don't know the value of money," Núnes said. "They thought the money would last, but it doesn't." Now they languish in Santarém's growing slums.

Those who refused to sell found themselves encircled by an encroaching wasteland, as whining chain saws and raging fires consumed the trees right up to the edge of their land. Their yards were overrun with vipers, bees, and rodents escaping the apocalypse, and when tractors began spraying the cleared fields, toxic clouds of pesticides drifted into their homes. "Their health was in jeopardy," Núnes said. "Many started getting sick. Their animals started dying."

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 9:58:34pm

re: #289 funky chicken

I'm not even gonna read this idiot's comments or his "source documents" any further, but I have to ask: if you cut down old trees to reduce their release of carbon dioxide through decay, why do you do with them? Burn them? Sheesh.

Well of course he's a fool. Anyone with half a brain knows that carbon dioxide is plant food, and the more CO2 we can pump into the atmosphere the better off we all are. Hell, I hear tell that it can save us from skin cancer.

How about if we just pour lots of super-glue into volcanoes to prevent eruptions?

Gawt damn you're a fucking genius! I'm getting Jindal on the line right now. Have a proposal ready by Tuesday.
/heh, need I?

Or, for a serious suggestion, how about we just encourage Europeans to grow their own soybeans instead of importing so many of them from Brazil?
[Link: environment.nationalgeographic.com...]

How about we just tell soy to fuck off all together. That shit is getting as bad as high fructose corn syrup. In. Every. Thing.

292 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:04:44pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Edamame is quite tasty.

It's about the bottom dollar and that's why they go to Brazil. That's why we have Wal-mart.

293 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:12:16pm

re: #292 marjoriemoon

I have no interest in soy, and even less in Wal-Mart.

I have no idea why either appeals to anyone, with the exception of those who live in areas where the latter is the only grocery store within reasonable distance.

And I pity those folk.

294 danhenry1  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:15:11pm

It is not Rep. Rohrabacher, we should be overly concerned with'; I worry more about those that elected him.

295 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:24:03pm

Charles has a new toy lolre: #293 Slumbering Behemoth

I have no interest in soy, and even less in Wal-Mart.

I have no idea why either appeals to anyone, with the exception of those who live in areas where the latter is the only grocery store within reasonable distance.

And I pity those folk.

Vegetarians dig soy and soy related products.

296 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:25:02pm

re: #292 marjoriemoon

Edamame is quite tasty.

It's about the bottom dollar and that's why they go to Brazil. That's why we have Wal-mart.

Are the whole pods edible? I've always just ate the beans inside.

297 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:30:29pm

re: #293 Slumbering Behemoth

I have no interest in soy, and even less in Wal-Mart.

I have no idea why either appeals to anyone, with the exception of those who live in areas where the latter is the only grocery store within reasonable distance.

And I pity those folk.

I like edamame
I like soy milk, light, chocolate.
I grocery shop at WalMart - great selection, they are as well stocked as the more expensive places.
So there.

298 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:31:01pm

re: #295 marjoriemoon

Vegetarians dig soy and soy related products.

Well then I obviously must wage a campaign to curtail, and eventually destroy, their interests.
/

But really, fuck soy. It's a cheap filler like HFC, and likely just as detrimental.

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:32:33pm

re: #297 reine.de.tout

I shop at WinCo. Better groceries at better prices than the Wal-Mart that is just slightly closer to me by a hair. I'm lucky.

300 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:32:46pm

re: #298 Slumbering Behemoth

Well then I obviously must wage a campaign to curtail, and eventually destroy, their interests.
/

But really, fuck soy. It's a cheap filler like HFC, and likely just as detrimental.

If tofu is soy.... I agree wholeheartedly.

301 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:33:04pm

Soy is very nutritious, and heart healthy.

302 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:33:35pm

re: #299 Slumbering Behemoth

I shop at WinCo. Better groceries at better prices than the Wal-Mart that is just slightly closer to me by a hair. I'm lucky.

No clue what a WinCo is.

303 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:34:05pm

re: #302 reine.de.tout

No clue what a WinCo is.

It's a Walmart wanna be.

304 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:34:35pm

re: #296 Mr Pancakes

Are the whole pods edible? I've always just ate the beans inside.

I have not eaten the skins, no. Skins? Just the beans. Good munch if you're watching your calories.

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:35:42pm

re: #301 reine.de.tout

Soy is very nutritious, and heart healthy.

Not good if your a dude.

306 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:35:46pm

re: #304 marjoriemoon

I have not eaten the skins, no. Skins? Just the beans. Good munch if you're watching your calories.

Yep...... my neighbor was eating the whole pod........ so I didn't know.

307 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:37:07pm

re: #302 reine.de.tout

No clue what a WinCo is.

It's a grocery store with better products at lower prices than Wal-Mart, or any other grocery store in my area.

re: #303 Mr Pancakes

It's a Walmart wanna be.

May WinCo smite you, heathen.

308 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:38:30pm

re: #298 Slumbering Behemoth

Well then I obviously must wage a campaign to curtail, and eventually destroy, their interests.
/

But really, fuck soy. It's a cheap filler like HFC, and likely just as detrimental.

Well yea, you can watch the products that have it as filler, but that's mostly meat right? Which means not eating fast foods which is probably a good thing to not eat, at least regularly.

Soy is a good lactose intolerant substitute, too. Like in soy milk or soy dairy products.

309 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:39:08pm

re: #307 Slumbering Behemoth

May WinCo smite you, heathen.

Well maybe if their lazy ass would get out here to California maybe they would smite me.

310 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:41:30pm

re: #306 Mr Pancakes

Yep... my neighbor was eating the whole pod... so I didn't know.

I would say that's odd hehe. Waste not, want not, I guess!

You can put Edamame in salads too. I put everything in salads. Except chocolate. That would be gross.

311 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:41:49pm

re: #308 marjoriemoon

Well yea, you can watch the products that have it as filler, but that's mostly meat right?

Meat, bread, whatever. You name it, soy is likely in there.
/I'm an obsessive ingredient list reader.

Soy is a good lactose intolerant substitute, too. Like in soy milk or soy dairy products.

That's my grandma. But she doesn't have to worry about the detrimental hormonal side affects of soy, 'cuz she's not a dude. Obviously.

312 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:42:55pm

re: #310 marjoriemoon

I would say that's odd hehe. Waste not, want not, I guess!

You can put Edamame in salads too. I put everything in salads. Except chocolate. That would be gross.

I was thinking she needed fiber. I do eat snow pea pods.

313 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:43:00pm

re: #309 Mr Pancakes

Well maybe if their lazy ass would get out here to California maybe they would smite me.

Where the hell do you think I live, short-stack?

314 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:44:20pm

re: #310 marjoriemoon

I would say that's odd hehe. Waste not, want not, I guess!

You can put Edamame in salads too. I put everything in salads. Except chocolate. That would be gross.

But they sell dried edamame dipped in chocolate.

I can only eat so many edamame. The taste and that odd texture gets cloying pretty fast for me. A few are nice.

315 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:45:21pm

re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth

Meat, bread, whatever. You name it, soy is likely in there.
/I'm an obsessive ingredient list reader.

That's my grandma. But she doesn't have to worry about the detrimental hormonal side affects of soy, 'cuz she's not a dude. Obviously.

There's some concern about breast cancer survivors eating soy because of the estrogen. I know some women who do their best to avoid it.

[Link: thechart.blogs.cnn.com...]

316 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:45:22pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

Where the hell do you think I live, short-stack?

Woops........ WinCo must be on their way south.

317 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:45:29pm

re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth

Soybeans, as is the nature of legumes, has more lysine than many plant foods. Thus for the vegetarian/vegan soybeans are quite useful. Since lysine is essential for vertebrates, using soybeans as filler (as opposed to other easy to grow plants like the grasses) is preferred.

Assuming we want filler, that is.

318 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:46:44pm

A skunk has made it's appearance...... lovely.

319 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:47:04pm

Ugh. Some of the reporting on the San Franciso circumcision ban reminds me of the agitation against Shechita in 1920s Germany.

320 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:47:21pm

re: #314 SanFranciscoZionist

But they sell dried edamame dipped in chocolate.

I can only eat so many edamame. The taste and that odd texture gets cloying pretty fast for me. A few are nice.

lol I was imagining more the lettuce and chocolate. Not too appetizing.

Edamame in chocolate? Hmm...now I'm intrigued.

321 danhenry1  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:47:49pm

I posted my last in somewhat.. No a stupid manner'
I don't give a rats ass about where someone stands about how man, may or may not impact warming. Warming is scientifically proven.
If we cannot agree that we have impacted that in some way the we may as well state that we humans have not improved our systems of: treatment of crap in sewer systems over the ages; eliminating and or reducing the impact of disease; realizing that the air that was floating over cities was much more toxic than today. That we have reduced man caused disease based on tobacco, increased the alcholohism in indigenous people. (Maybe the most dangerous of this planets dwellers is modern man western style), increased lung cancer may have kept us in check...
But no, we have impacted this oasis in much more harmful ways.. Progress. Did we not have a major impact on Japan..kilometer sized ones..twice. We did some major damage to a city in India, a while back with one of our 'Multinatioals right?
How about oil spills?
Humans impact everything that happens on this planet. Unfortunately so much time goes by that we will have some nitwits out there saying they agree with that, totally..and we will not be able to change the way we do things. That is scary, most of those that think like that are also hoping for that, 'Hurry Sundown', event that will bring the big guy. And remove us from our responsibility, that is somewhat biblical in my old mind.
'We should leave a place a little bit better than we found it'. Something my Mother instilled in all of us. I think they are good words

322 What, me worry?  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:48:07pm

Ok kids i'm out. Ya'll sleep well.

323 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:48:25pm

re: #314 SanFranciscoZionist

In Japan one can find all sorts of edamame combinations. I rather liked the dried and salted stuff as a traveling food.

324 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:48:45pm

re: #317 freetoken

Assuming we want filler, that is.

THANK YOU! I'm about this [..] damn close to becoming a farmer, just for my own personal tastes.

325 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:50:28pm

re: #321 danhenry1

I posted my last in somewhat.. No a stupid manner'
I don't give a rats ass about where someone stands about how man, may or may not impact warming. Warming is scientifically proven.
If we cannot agree that we have impacted that in some way the we may as well state that we humans have not improved our systems of: treatment of crap in sewer systems over the ages; eliminating and or reducing the impact of disease; realizing that the air that was floating over cities was much more toxic than today. That we have reduced man caused disease based on tobacco, increased the alcholohism in indigenous people. (Maybe the most dangerous of this planets dwellers is modern man western style), increased lung cancer may have kept us in check...
But no, we have impacted this oasis in much more harmful ways.. Progress. Did we not have a major impact on Japan..kilometer sized ones..twice. We did some major damage to a city in India, a while back with one of our 'Multinatioals right?
How about oil spills?
Humans impact everything that happens on this planet. Unfortunately so much time goes by that we will have some nitwits out there saying they agree with that, totally..and we will not be able to change the way we do things. That is scary, most of those that think like that are also hoping for that, 'Hurry Sundown', event that will bring the big guy. And remove us from our responsibility, that is somewhat biblical in my old mind.
'We should leave a place a little bit better than we found it'. Something my Mother instilled in all of us. I think they are good words

Humans suck

326 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:51:07pm

re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth

THANK YOU! I'm about this [..] damn close to becoming a farmer, just for my own personal tastes.

Heh, me too. If I had the money I'd move to NorCal and buy a large farm and do some permaculture focusing on tree crops. But farmland in California can cost more than in Iowa and I don't think I could make it turn a profit in anything less than 10 years.

327 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:54:47pm

re: #326 freetoken

I'm not even interested in turning a profit. Just having enough space to grow and raise enough food for me. Alas, I already know I have a brown thumb. I have no clue as to how much I'd suck at animal husbandry.

/I'm just a poor City boy who wants to eat good Country food. Is that so wrong?

328 Four More Tears  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:56:07pm

re: #327 Slumbering Behemoth

I have no clue as to how much I'd suck at animal husbandry.

omg...they tried to warn us about animals marrying...

329 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:56:37pm

BTW, Lysine was at the center of one of the largest cases of multinational corporate greed and lawbreaking, based around ADM:

The Informant: A True Story

So many American politicians are in the pocket of ADM that I suspect this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Big Ag is, IMO, far worse for us than BigPharm.

330 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:57:18pm

I just watched "Saturday Night Fever" tonight thanks to Netflix....... I never watched it back in the day (35 years ago or so) cuz I hated disco.

I must have known something back then.

What a fucking piece of shit movie that was/is.

331 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 10:58:22pm

re: #327 Slumbering Behemoth


/I'm just a poor City boy who wants to eat good Country food. Is that so wrong?


Well, if you want to do that and not have the farm pay its way you better have a cool million to blow on the farm and its upkeep.

Or, like me, you can do urban scrounging. Loquats are over for this season, but they'll be back.

332 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:00:37pm

re: #316 Mr Pancakes

Woops... WinCo must be on their way south.

The came out here to the Central Valley about 3-5 years ago. All sarcastic brand worship aside, they really do offer a better selection, better quality, and lower price than any other grocer in my area, including walmart. And there just a handful of blocks away from me.

I still buy my meat at the butcher, though. Not that close to me at all, but I trust their quality far above any other place I've shopped.

333 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:00:50pm

re: #331 freetoken

Well, if you want to do that and not have the farm pay its way you better have a cool million to blow on the farm and its upkeep.

Or, like me, you can do urban scrounging. Loquats are over for this season, but they'll be back.

I like loquats ...... hard to find.

334 Alexzander  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:03:17pm

re: #330 Mr Pancakes

I just watched "Saturday Night Fever" tonight thanks to Netflix... I never watched it back in the day (35 years ago or so) cuz I hated disco.

I must have known something back then.

What a fucking piece of shit movie that was/is.

Next you should watch Boogie Nights. Excellent film.

335 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:04:13pm

re: #331 freetoken

Yeah, it's impractical. But it's a fantasy of mine.

Though, back in the day, my paternal grandma used to grow a good patch of fruits and vegetables in her backyard, as well as having a few fruit bearing trees (the avocado and the plum being my favorites).

336 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:04:33pm

re: #334 Alexzander

Next you should watch Boogie Nights. Excellent film.

I saw that movie..... it was great.

337 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:04:54pm

re: #329 freetoken

BTW, Lysine was at the center of one of the largest cases of multinational corporate greed and lawbreaking, based around ADM:

The Informant: A True Story

So many American politicians are in the pocket of ADM that I suspect this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Big Ag is, IMO, far worse for us than BigPharm.

Thanks for the link (I guess). That's another couple of books I have to buy and never get around to reading.

338 Four More Tears  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:06:25pm

re: #329 freetoken

BTW, Lysine was at the center of one of the largest cases of multinational corporate greed and lawbreaking, based around ADM:

The Informant: A True Story

So many American politicians are in the pocket of ADM that I suspect this is only the tip of the iceberg.

Big Ag is, IMO, far worse for us than BigPharm.

I have yet to see Monsanto painted in a positive light...

339 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:08:49pm

re: #332 Slumbering Behemoth

The came out here to the Central Valley about 3-5 years ago. All sarcastic brand worship aside, they really do offer a better selection, better quality, and lower price than any other grocer in my area, including walmart. And there just a handful of blocks away from me.

I still buy my meat at the butcher, though. Not that close to me at all, but I trust their quality far above any other place I've shopped.

Costco has a great meat selection...... I believe they also have the "prime" grade available which is usually reserved for restaurants.

340 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:10:28pm

re: #338 JasonA

I have yet to see Monsanto painted in a positive light...

From their own fucking website.

There seems to me to be something deeply wrong, on many levels, with the idea that a biological organism can be patented.

341 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:13:04pm

re: #340 negativ

From their own fucking website.

There seems to me to be something deeply wrong, on many levels, with the idea that a biological organism can be patented.

Well.... if you employ a bunch of people to develop it...... you can probably patent it.

342 Varek Raith  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:13:20pm

re: #340 negativ

From their own fucking website.

There seems to me to be something deeply wrong, on many levels, with the idea that a biological organism can be patented.

I agree.

Just don't try to unionize my zombies.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
:P

343 Four More Tears  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:13:53pm

re: #340 negativ

From their own fucking website.

There seems to me to be something deeply wrong, on many levels, with the idea that a biological organism can be patented.

I was watching a documentary a couple of weeks ago about our Food supply. They talk about a case where Monsanto sued a guy who cleans seeds because he was basically helping farmers to breach their contracts with Monsanto.

Yeah, I think they're pretty fucking evil.

344 Four More Tears  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:16:03pm

re: #341 Mr Pancakes

Well... if you employ a bunch of people to develop it... you can probably patent it.

See, you're making the same mistake the government did when they let them get away with this.

It's like owning the patent on Golden Retrievers.

And making people kill all Golden Retriever pups so that they all have to come from you...

345 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:18:33pm

re: #338 JasonA

I have yet to see Monsanto painted in a positive light...

Most of what I've heard about them is the conspiracy theory, fear mongering "OOOH! Frankenfoods"! I have no idea what other crimes they might be guilty of.

As far as genetically modified foods go...

This.

And this.

346 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:19:43pm

re: #344 JasonA

See, you're making the same mistake the government did when they let them get away with this.

It's like owning the patent on Golden Retrievers.

And making people kill all Golden Retriever pups so that they all have to come from you...

I'm not saying I agree with it....... I'm just saying if you manipulate chemistry in ways that are unique, you may get a patent. There are lot's o' companies doing this..... not just Monsanto.

347 Four More Tears  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:21:13pm

re: #346 Mr Pancakes

I'm not saying I agree with it... I'm just saying if you manipulate chemistry in ways that are unique, you may get a patent. There are lot's o' companies doing this... not just Monsanto.

Yeah, but it's more about breeding than chemistry.

348 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:22:13pm

re: #339 Mr Pancakes

Costco has a great meat selection... I believe they also have the "prime" grade available which is usually reserved for restaurants.

FOUL TEMPTRESS!!! THOU SHALT NOT SWAY ME FROM THE PATH OF MINE HOLY BUTCHER!!!

Costco does have a decent meat selection (and they're right next to my local Winco. Hate me yet?), but the butcher I go to has better cuts of Tri-Tip.

And if you know me, you know how I feel about Tri-Tip.

349 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:25:33pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth

FOUL TEMPTRESS!!! THOU SHALT NOT SWAY ME FROM THE PATH OF MINE HOLY BUTCHER!!!

Costco does have a decent meat selection (and they're right next to my local Winco. Hate me yet?), but the butcher I go to has better cuts of Tri-Tip.

And if you know me, you know how I feel about Tri-Tip.

Tri-Tip, a truly west coast cut........ we are BBQ brothers. High fives dude!

350 goddamnedfrank  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:32:59pm

re: #343 JasonA

I was watching a documentary a couple of weeks ago about our Food supply. They talk about a case where Monsanto sued a guy who cleans seeds because he was basically helping farmers to breach their contracts with Monsanto.

Yeah, I think they're pretty fucking evil.

Old news is still fucked up, Monsanto Canada v. Schmeiser:

As established in the original Federal Court trial decision, Schmeiser first discovered Roundup-resistant canola in his crops in 1997.[2] He had used Roundup herbicide to clear weeds around power poles and in ditches adjacent to a public road running beside one of his fields, and noticed that some of the canola which had been sprayed had survived. Schmeiser then performed a test by applying Roundup to an additional 3 acres (12,000 m2) to 4 acres (16,000 m2) of the same field. He found that 60% of the canola plants survived. At harvest time, Schmeiser instructed a farmhand to harvest the test field. That seed was stored separately from the rest of the harvest, and used the next year to seed approximately 1,000 acres (4 km²) of canola.

At the time, Roundup Ready canola was in use by several farmers in the area. Schmeiser claimed that he did not plant the initial Roundup Ready canola, and that his field of custom-bred canola had been accidentally contaminated. Possibly routes of this gene flow include seed which escaped from passing trucks containing Roundup Ready harvests, or natural, accidental pollination. Monsanto initially claimed that Schmeiser planted Roundup Ready Canola in his fields intentionally, though they could offer no evidence for this. The company later admitted that it was possible for unintentional gene flow to have resulted in the initial presence of Roundup Ready Canola in Schmeiser's field. While the origin of the plants on Schmeiser's farm remains unclear, the trial judge found that "none of the suggested sources [proposed by Schmeiser] could reasonably explain the concentration or extent of Roundup Ready canola of a commercial quality" ultimately present in Schmeiser's crop.[3]

351 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:34:35pm

re: #347 JasonA

Yeah, but it's more about breeding than chemistry.

It's all test tube shit man.

352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:39:39pm

re: #349 Mr Pancakes

I recently went to an expensive steak house for Mother's Day. (No, with my mom and grandma, asshole. Not because I'm a "mother fucker"./)

Anyway. High priced, but damned if it wasn't excellent. Reading their menu, I see that they grill their steaks with almond wood.

It just so happens that I have a small stack of that in my garage, leftover from winter heating. I can't wait to grill some Tri-Tip with that. I'm salivating just thinking about it.

353 Varek Raith  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:42:26pm

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

You sound awfully....
Defensive.
///
:P

354 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:45:30pm

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

I recently went to an expensive steak house for Mother's Day. (No, with my mom and grandma, asshole. Not because I'm a "mother fucker"./)

Anyway. High priced, but damned if it wasn't excellent. Reading their menu, I see that they grill their steaks with almond wood.

It just so happens that I have a small stack of that in my garage, leftover from winter heating. I can't wait to grill some Tri-Tip with that. I'm salivating just thinking about it.

I'm doing slow and low temp beef ribs for Memorial Day in the oven. Fall off the bone tender.

I used to have a smoker........ I really miss it. MY WIFE.... IF YOU READ THIS BLOG I WANT A NEW SMOKER. I have a feeling she doesn't read this blog.

355 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:45:42pm

re: #353 Varek Raith

You fuck with my Tri-Tip son, and the loss of your wee willy will only mark the beginning or your problems.

356 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:48:43pm

Trying to remember how long ago it was that I ate a proper "steak". It's been years, I just don't know how many. Probably 8 or so years.

357 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:49:08pm

re: #356 freetoken

Trying to remember how long ago it was that I ate a proper "steak". It's been years, I just don't know how many. Probably 8 or so years.

That sucks

358 Varek Raith  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:49:21pm

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

You fuck with my Tri-Tip son, and the loss of your wee willy will only mark the beginning or your problems.

Rofl.

359 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:50:25pm

re: #358 Varek Raith

Rofl.

Never fuck with a man's Tri-Tip.

360 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:52:10pm

re: #357 Mr Pancakes

That sucks

I'm the founding member of the UDL - the Ungulate Defense League.

361 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:53:18pm

re: #356 freetoken

Trying to remember how long ago it was that I ate a proper "steak". It's been years, I just don't know how many. Probably 8 or so years.

Most restaurants that I've been to have no idea how to cook a steak. Not a single fucking clue. And those that do know how to do it right, charge a massive premium.

This is why I prefer to grill at home. I may not be five star quality, but I do have mad skills.

362 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:54:08pm

re: #360 freetoken

I'm the founding member of the UDL - the Ungulate Defense League.

Right on...... Llamas good eatin' too.

363 freetoken  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:54:08pm

BTW, did anyone else catch The Esther's new digs in Scottsdale?

With New Arizona Home, Palin Can Skip the Tanning Bed

Former Alaska governor and vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin has bought a roughly 8,000-square-foot home in North Scottsdale, Ariz., for $1.695 million, according to people familiar with the deal. [...]

The book sales were good.

Nothing says "middle America" like a 1.7 million dollar 8000 sq. ft. house in Scottsdale.

364 Mr Pancakes  Fri, May 27, 2011 11:58:17pm

re: #361 Slumbering Behemoth

Most restaurants that I've been to have no idea how to cook a steak. Not a single fucking clue. And those that do know how to do it right, charge a massive premium.

This is why I prefer to grill at home. I may not be five star quality, but I do have mad skills.

Agreed.... I had a prime rib the other day at a restaurant that boasts about having the best prime rib in San Diego County..... it was like bubble gum.... I will never go back.

365 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:01:09am

re: #364 Mr Pancakes

... a restaurant that boasts about having the best prime rib in San Diego County...

Care to share the name?

366 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:01:35am

re: #358 Varek Raith

A running joke with me and some of my more long time male friends. Call 'em up on Mother's Day and say "Happy Mother's Day, you mother fucker". Juvenile and nonsensical, I know.

But as the years went by, and the fair weather types and half-assed acquaintances fell off, there are still a couple of true friends I know. Single fathers holding it all down and raising a gaggle of kids while the delinquent mothers skipped this way or that.

As time passed, it has become less of a joke and more of a compliment.

367 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:06:23am

re: #365 freetoken

Care to share the name?


Not a problem.......... note they say best prime rib in America...... I should sue.

[Link: rdpsteak.com...]

368 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:06:46am

re: #364 Mr Pancakes

Agreed... I had a prime rib the other day at a restaurant that boasts about having the best prime rib in San Diego County... it was like bubble gum... I will never go back.

The only kind of beef that should be that chewy is lengua. Aside from that, if you can't do it, don't brag on it.

369 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:08:35am

re: #368 Slumbering Behemoth

The only kind of beef that should be that chewy is lengua. Aside from that, if you can't do it, don't brag on it.

Actually lengua is very tender if it's cooked right........ I lived in Mexico.

370 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:10:05am

re: #367 Mr Pancakes

They say about themselves:

Roberto DePhillippis Steakhouse has been a Chula Vista institution since 1968. Best known for having “The best prime rib in America”, Nebraska corn-fed beef and leggy waitresses.

Never been to DePhillippis, but then again steak houses have never been my thing.

Sounds like they served you a dish from a leggy beef cow... let's hope it wasn't served via a Nebraska corn-fed waitress...

I know, I know...

371 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:10:15am

re: #369 Mr Pancakes

Actually lengua is very tender if it's cooked right... I lived in Mexico.

:grumble:fuckin' commie:grumble:

372 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:10:36am

re: #341 Mr Pancakes

Well... if you employ a bunch of people to develop it... you can probably patent it.

OK, so now every breed of dog, cat, horse, fish, flower, etc. is patented. You're gonna get sued if your dog (or goldfish) reproduces without you paying the licensing fee. If you plant some flowers in your back yard and some bunch of jackass honeybees come by and pollinate them, you now owe royalties to the Burpee seed company.

373 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:12:44am

re: #370 freetoken

They say about themselves:

Never been to DePhillippis, but then again steak houses have never been my thing.

Sounds like they served you a dish from a leggy beef cow... let's hope it wasn't served via a Nebraska corn-fed waitress...

I know, I know...

The waitress..... I would have preferred to chew on her legs than the prime rib they served me .... she was hawt.

374 Varek Raith  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:13:02am

re: #372 negativ

OK, so now every breed of dog, cat, horse, fish, flower, etc. is patented. You're gonna get sued if your dog (or goldfish) reproduces without you paying the licensing fee. If you plant some flowers in your back yard and some bunch of jackass honeybees come by and pollinate them, you now owe royalties to the Burpee seed company.

Weyland-Yutani Corp
Building Better Gardens

375 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:16:34am

re: #361 Slumbering Behemoth

Most restaurants that I've been to have no idea how to cook a steak. Not a single fucking clue. And those that do know how to do it right, charge a massive premium.

This is why I prefer to grill at home. I may not be five star quality, but I do have mad skills.

To hear some people talk, steak isn't done "right" unless it's as tender as a slab of Jello and can be slurped through a straw. I'll take the chewy, bubblegum consistency over that any time.

My former in-laws were like that. Loved their meat so "tender" it was damn near liquid. The closest I ever came to vomiting in public was one time when we all went out to some restaurant and they ordered oysters. They spent the next hour slurping down quivering, gelatinous blobs that reminded me very strongly of a bad sinus infection. In fact, I'm feeling slightly sick right now just thinking about it.

376 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:17:22am

re: #372 negativ

I think that kind of misses the point, but the entire issue seems very odd to me.

On one hand, if you spend that much money, manpower and research on something, you ought to reap some kind of benefit.

On the other hand, I can see exactly where you're coming from with that comment.

It's an odd can of genetically modified worms.

377 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:20:25am

re: #370 freetoken

... let's hope it wasn't served via a Nebraska corn-fed waitress...

I'm fixin' to dot your eye RIGHT NOW!
/

378 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:20:33am

re: #375 negativ

I rather like oysters, though I prefer them cooked, or in a stew.

379 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:21:13am

re: #373 Mr Pancakes

The waitress... I would have preferred to chew on her legs ...

All the Nebraska corn-feeding, no doubt.

380 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:21:35am

re: #375 negativ

To hear some people talk, steak isn't done "right" unless it's as tender as a slab of Jello and can be slurped through a straw. I'll take the chewy, bubblegum consistency over that any time.

My former in-laws were like that. Loved their meat so "tender" it was damn near liquid. The closest I ever came to vomiting in public was one time when we all went out to some restaurant and they ordered oysters. They spent the next hour slurping down quivering, gelatinous blobs that reminded me very strongly of a bad sinus infection. In fact, I'm feeling slightly sick right now just thinking about it.

Bubblegum consistency isn't good if you have to put it back on your plate to avoid choking.

Raw oysters rock!

381 laZardo  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:21:53am

RIP Gil Scott-Heron

Youtube Video
382 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:23:28am

re: #381 laZardo

RIP Gil Scott-Heron

[Video]

He died? If so... RIP.

383 laZardo  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:23:48am

re: #20 publicityStunted

Fixed. Teddy Roosevelt (R-back when they were smart) would kick Dana Rohrabacher's ass from here to eternity.

Before taking a break to wrestle a bear.

384 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:24:00am

re: #375 negativ

To hear some people talk, steak isn't done "right" unless it's as tender as a slab of Jello and can be slurped through a straw.

Bah! WTF do they know? You swing by my spot and I'll grill you up a proper Tri-Tip. You buy the meat, and I'll supply the coals.

And I got a bad ass grilled corn thing to go with it. Not my invention, but bad ass just the same.

385 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:26:29am

re: #384 Slumbering Behemoth

Bah! WTF do they know? You swing by my spot and I'll grill you up a proper Tri-Tip. You buy the meat, and I'll supply the coals.

And I got a bad ass grilled corn thing to go with it. Not my invention, but bad ass just the same.

Love grilled corn....... I remove the husks...... toast em up.

386 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:30:32am
MP3 Audio
387 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:33:32am

re: #376 Slumbering Behemoth

On one hand, if you spend that much money, manpower and research on something, you ought to reap some kind of benefit.

The research was specifically done towards the end of creating seeds that do not reproduce. That's the entire reason they sue farmers who save the previous years' leftover seeds: so they don't have to buy a new batch next season.

388 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:33:44am

re: #385 Mr Pancakes

The thing I do ain't new. It's an old school Mexican thang, but it was new to me a few years ago.

Soaked in cold water for at least an hour, husks on.

Grilled for a bit with husks covering, then at the last bit with husks peeled back.

Brushed with a mixture of mayo, butter, and lime juice, then dusted with chili powder and parmesan.

Y'all can eat all the pie, cake, and ice cream you want. I'll take an ear of that for my desert, thank you very much.

389 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:33:55am

re: #381 laZardo

And Whitey's on the moon.

390 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:34:05am

re: #386 freetoken

[Video]

Ahhhh that music is too far sophisticated for us.

391 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:38:49am

Rohrabacher and his ilk are walking mental zombies. Why does USA keep electing such people? OK, I could hazard a guess, as could most folks here.

*sigh*

392 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:38:50am

re: #388 Slumbering Behemoth

The thing I do ain't new. It's an old school Mexican thang, but it was new to me a few years ago.

Soaked in cold water for at least an hour, husks on.

Grilled for a bit with husks covering, then at the last bit with husks peeled back.

Brushed with a mixture of mayo, butter, and lime juice, then dusted with chili powder and parmesan.

Y'all can eat all the pie, cake, and ice cream you want. I'll take an ear of that for my desert, thank you very much.

We make that at home..... I call it street corn because they serve it up in Mexico. We've had it many times...... cocaine on a cob. I would say Parmesan works, but it's better to use queso seco.

393 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:40:20am

re: #392 Mr Pancakes

We make that at home... I call it street corn because they serve it up in Mexico. We've had it many times... cocaine on a cob. I would say Parmesan works, but it's better to use queso seco.

There are dudes with push carts selling that goodness in my town!

394 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:40:55am

re: #393 boxhead

There are dudes with push carts selling that goodness in my town!

Right on! Where do you live?

395 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:41:17am

As much as I would like to have been able to see "Don Giovanni" in Vienna in 1787, and "The Rite of Spring" in Paris in 1913, so too would I like to see how THIS is perceived by people 200 years in the future*

Youtube Video

*many assumptions, I realize.

396 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:42:42am

re: #394 Mr Pancakes

Right on! Where do you live?

Wilmington, CA, which is part of the City of Los Angeles next to the Port of LA. Much of Wilmington is like Mexico...

397 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:44:00am

re: #396 boxhead

Wilmington, CA, which is part of the City of Los Angeles next to the Port of LA. Much of Wilmington is like Mexico...

I know where Wilmington is....... I was born in LA.

398 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:44:32am

re: #397 Mr Pancakes

I know where Wilmington is... I was born in LA.

Cool... where abouts?

399 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:45:59am

re: #398 boxhead

Cool... where abouts?

I was born downtown....... lived in Highland Park near Eagle Rock.

400 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:46:43am

re: #399 Mr Pancakes

I was born downtown... lived in Highland Park near Eagle Rock.

Nice.... Lots of great bars in downtown now....

401 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:48:41am

re: #400 boxhead

Nice... Lots of great bars in downtown now...

Oh I'm sure there are......... I've been out of LA for years.

402 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:50:36am

re: #387 negativ

The research was specifically done towards the end of creating seeds that do not reproduce. That's the entire reason they sue farmers who save the previous years' leftover seeds: so they don't have to buy a new batch next season.

What can I say? I'm not really hip to the whole topic.

I figure if you invest a certain amount of research, money, and man hours into something, you ought to get some kind of benefit out of it.

But as I say, I am not hip to the topic. If you have sources or links that could educate me on the whole thing, I'll be happy to digest them when I'm more sober. And if you dig me, you'll dig that I would prefer sources that are entirely non-partisan in the political sense. I'm not fond of political taint on such subjects, even if they look to confirm my own political biases.

This is not some kind of challenge, where I dare you prove anything. I'm just curious. If you don't have the time, well I'll just pick it when I'm not fuxored. If I remember to do so.

403 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:52:03am

re: #395 negativ

As much as I would like to have been able to see "Don Giovanni" in Vienna in 1787, and "The Rite of Spring" in Paris in 1913, so too would I like to see how THIS is perceived by people 200 years in the future*

[Video]*many assumptions, I realize.

Phillip Glass...... didn't he do this?

Youtube Video
404 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:53:07am

Hey all, just 1 question.

Doesn't rotting vegetation create topsoil?

ok, 2 questions.

Doesn't lack of trees; rotting vegetation and topsoil lead to desertification?

I forgot, 3 questions.

Anyone awake?

405 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:53:14am

re: #401 Mr Pancakes

Oh I'm sure there are... I've been out of LA for years.

Bummer.... downtown is really coming alive.... Lots of new living space, lots of old bars restored back to their 1930's original luster. A few of them are Speakeasies with non obvious entrances.

Check out 213 Nightlife has done.

406 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:53:44am

re: #391 boxhead

Rohrabacher and his ilk are walking mental zombies. Why does USA keep electing such people?

He represents an area where the Orange County Register is considered gospel.

407 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:54:23am

re: #392 Mr Pancakes

but it's better to use queso seco.

Link please. I am so unfamiliar with Mexican cheeses, but I ain't no hater.

/I've a pretty good grasp of Italian cheeses, but those work better with Italian dishes.

408 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:54:50am

re: #406 freetoken

He represents an area where the Orange County Register is considered gospel.

I'm not sure the politicians are all that stupid, I think they are just singing to the choir in order to be re-elected. They have to be elected to take bribes and work their mojo.

409 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:55:25am

re: #406 freetoken

He represents an area where the Orange County Register is considered gospel.

Yeah... Here in LA County we call that area behind the Orange Curtain.

410 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:57:19am

re: #407 Slumbering Behemoth

Link please. I am so unfamiliar with Mexican cheeses, but I ain't no hater.

/I've a pretty good grasp of Italian cheeses, but those work better with Italian dishes.

Here is one. Lots of fresh cheeses.

411 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:57:52am

cheese is good.

I had saganaki twice this week.

412 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:58:10am

re: #408 ggt

I'm not sure the politicians are all that stupid, I think they are just singing to the choir in order to be re-elected. They have to be elected to take bribes and work their mojo.

sad state of affairs.... :(

413 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 12:58:37am

re: #412 boxhead

sad state of affairs... :(

same as it ever was . . .

414 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:00:44am

re: #413 ggt

same as it ever was . . .

aaaarrrrrg

415 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:02:38am

re: #407 Slumbering Behemoth

Link please. I am so unfamiliar with Mexican cheeses, but I ain't no hater.

/I've a pretty good grasp of Italian cheeses, but those work better with Italian dishes.

Here you go SB..... good stuff

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

416 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:02:42am

re: #410 boxhead

Here is one. Lots of fresh cheeses.

Thanks bro, just what I was looking for.

Requeson
Spanish name: Requesón
[Re-keh-sohn]

A "Hispanic Ricotta" style cheese. Use in any recipe that calls for ricotta from salads and even desserts. Requeson is a lower-fat cheese. Look for it in Mexican markets

Good lookin' out.

417 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:09:38am

So, I'm watching a video about ancient Greece... and it's flavored with some historical revisionism (mostly through overstatements or glossing over facts.) I hate it when that happens in documentaries that otherwise have some value. It's production was funded in part by a wealthy Greek-American, and the main speaker is a contemporary Greek archeologist.... anyway, I guess the take-away lesson is that objective analysis of a culture needs, if it is to be accomplished, an outsider to be a key player.

418 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:10:51am

re: #411 ggt

cheese is good.

I had saganaki twice this week.

Whatever you do people do NOT eat Casu marzu cheese.

419 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:10:53am

re: #415 Mr Pancakes

Thanks to you as well. I don't care what anybody says about you Scaly Bastards, y'all are top notch in my book.

I get to learn about food, politics, social issues, booze, and nerdy gamer stuff here.

/I could do without the goofy fetish stuff, but you take the good, you take the bad...

420 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:11:38am

re: #417 freetoken

So, I'm watching a video about ancient Greece... and it's flavored with some historical revisionism (mostly through overstatements or glossing over facts.) I hate it when that happens in documentaries that otherwise have some value. It's production was funded in part by a wealthy Greek-American, and the main speaker is a contemporary Greek archeologist... anyway, I guess the take-away lesson is that objective analysis of a culture needs, if it is to be accomplished, an outsider to be a key player.

always good to learn another perspective? . . . .

421 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:11:46am

re: #417 freetoken

So what is the data point in question? Did the documentary say Zeus was not real?

/

422 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:13:51am

re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth

Thanks to you as well. I don't care what anybody says about you Scaly Bastards, y'all are top notch in my book.

I get to learn about food, politics, social issues, booze, and nerdy gamer stuff here.

/I could do without the goofy fetish stuff, but you take the good, you take the bad...

You won't get any fetish stuff from me SB....... only good reliable information (ahem).

423 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:14:16am

re: #421 boxhead

So what is the data point in question? Did the documentary say Zeus was not real?

/

blasphemer!

424 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:15:04am

re: #422 Mr Pancakes

You won't get any fetish stuff from me SB... only good reliable information (ahem).

good, reliable info about fetishes?

425 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:16:53am

re: #424 ggt

good, reliable info about fetishes?

What means fetishes ggt?

426 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:19:44am

re: #423 ggt

blasphemer!

Hey... I'm with you, in fact I think I may be the offspring of the God of the Sky, also know as the Father of the Titans, also known as Uranus.

///////////////////////////

427 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:20:53am

re: #425 Mr Pancakes

What means fetishes ggt?

those little animal statue thingys. I wasn't aware that there was bad or unreliable info out there on them.

428 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:21:14am

re: #421 boxhead

So what is the data point in question? Did the documentary say Zeus was not real?

/

Ohhh...

♫ There's no Greek god like the Zeus Greek god, it's the only Greek god in the land ♫

♫ The other Greek gods are bullshit Greek gods, if you prayed to them once you'd understand. ♫

429 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:21:52am

re: #426 boxhead

Hey... I'm with you, in fact I think I may be the offspring of the God of the Sky, also know as the Father of the Titans, also known as Uranus.

///

Nice

430 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:22:55am

no one answered my questions from #404.

431 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:23:35am

re: #429 Mr Pancakes

Nice

You think you are Uranus Minor?

432 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:24:39am

re: #428 Slumbering Behemoth

Ohhh...

♫ There's no Greek god like the Zeus Greek god, it's the only Greek god in the land ♫

♫ The other Greek gods are bullshit Greek gods, if you prayed to them once you'd understand. ♫

♫ My god's better than your god... ♫

Youtube Video

♫ My god's better 'cause he gets genuflection... ♫

433 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:19am

re: #420 ggt

always good to learn another perspective? . . .

Well, in this case the myopic portrayal of ancient greece is a bit over the top. Nice photography, and some interesting archeological tidbits, but a bit overdone on rosy-colored-glasses.

434 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:31am

re: #431 ggt

You think you are Uranus Minor?

No I think I'm the Big Dipper.

435 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:37am

re: #404 ggt

Hey all, just 1 question.

Doesn't rotting vegetation create topsoil?

ok, 2 questions.

Doesn't lack of trees; rotting vegetation and topsoil lead to desertification?

I forgot, 3 questions.

Anyone awake?

Not being a botanist, I am guessing, but we always had a pile of grass cuttings in the back yard that my mom would use as fertilizer once it sat for a few months. So I am guess yes to both of your questions.

436 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:46am

re: #432 negativ

♫ My god's better than your god... ♫

[Video]♫ My god's better 'cause he gets genuflection... ♫

I can't do the little music sign, but

OOOOOh, Weee'reeee off to see the Wizard . . .

437 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:26:24am

re: #431 ggt

You think you are Uranus Minor?

Not since my mid forties. Defiantly major!

438 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:26:25am

re: #433 freetoken

Well, in this case the myopic portrayal of ancient greece is a bit over the top. Nice photography, and some interesting archeological tidbits, but a bit overdone on rosy-colored-glasses.

As I understand it, Greece isn't doing to well right now.

439 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:27:55am

re: #430 ggt

no one answered my questions from #404.

And no one ever will. But I do have this great observation on the subject...

We control nothing. Gawd controls everything. You're a stupid heretic whore for caring about anything other than obeying scripture.

440 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:28:51am

re: #438 ggt

As I understand it, Greece isn't doing to well right now.

No kidding. But the film looked at Greece starting from the explosion of Thera to the end of the Golden Age.

As for Greece today - they are caught between the European central bank and a hard place. And the rioting Greeks aren't very fond of hard places.

441 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:29:18am

re: #439 Slumbering Behemoth

And no one ever will. But I do have this great observation on the subject...

We control nothing. Gawd controls everything. You're a stupid heretic whore for caring about anything other than obeying scripture.

Just so everyone can read it

We control nothing. Gawd controls everything. You're a stupid heretic whore for caring about anything other than obeying scripture.

442 laZardo  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:29:30am

re: #430 ggt

no one answered my questions from #404.

1-2. I'm not a gardener.
3. Yes.

443 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:30:47am

re: #440 freetoken

As for Greece today - they are caught between the European central bank and a hard place. And the rioting Greeks aren't very fond of hard places.

Yes, they used to spend themselves into a hole and then just devalue their currency to buy their way out of it. Since they joined the Euro zone, they cannot get away with that trick.

444 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:31:23am

re: #443 ralphieboy

Yes, they used to spend themselves into a hole and then just devalue their currency to buy their way out of it. Since they joined the Euro zone, they cannot get away with that trick.

Great Western Values?

445 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:31:51am

re: #432 negativ

An excellent lampoon of ole time gospel.

446 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:31:59am

re: #405 boxhead

Bummer... downtown is really coming alive... Lots of new living space, lots of old bars restored back to their 1930's original luster. A few of them are Speakeasies with non obvious entrances.

Check out 213 Nightlife has done.

I see things like that and assume that I couldn't set foot inside the door for less than $100.

And once I did, I'd be surrounded by coked-up kids partying with Daddy's money, and/or a million clones of that same desperate wannabe actress from Houston, who spent six years preparing for her big screen debut by dancing naked on a stage, and who eventually ends up realizing her celluloid dreams by going direct-to-video, co-starring in "Ten Miles of Tough Tongue" and "Not-So-Tiny Tim." Hey, it's work. You gotta keep working.

447 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:32:22am

re: #444 ggt

Great Western Values?

They can no longer be Drachma Queens about it...

448 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:33:38am

re: #447 ralphieboy

They can no longer be Drachma Queens about it...

How long were you waiting for the opportunity to say that?

449 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:33:55am

re: #441 Mr Pancakes

Yer the dood who put up a scan of the last page of the last Harry Potter book online before it hit the stores, ain't ya?

450 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:35:19am

re: #446 negativ

I see things like that and assume that I couldn't set foot inside the door for less than $100.

And once I did, I'd be surrounded by coked-up kids partying with Daddy's money, and/or a million clones of that same desperate wannabe actress from Houston, who spent six years preparing for her big screen debut by dancing naked on a stage, and who eventually ends up realizing her celluloid dreams by going direct-to-video, co-starring in "Ten Miles of Tough Tongue" and "Not-So-Tiny Tim." Hey, it's work. You gotta keep working.

The prices are like $8 to $10 for hand crafted drinks. You don't go to these places to get drunk. You go to have a great drink or three. Although not all on that list are pricey. The Golden Gopher, Casey's and Tony's are more moderate. But I must add, all these bars have weekly specials that rock!

451 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:35:26am

re: #449 Slumbering Behemoth

Yer the dood who put up a scan of the last page of the last Harry Potter book online before it hit the stores, ain't ya?

Now, that IS blasphemy!

452 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:35:43am

re: #430 ggt

"Soil" includes dead plant material, yes. It becomes food for other living things, from fungi and bacteria to the worms.

As for deforestation causing desertification... there are cases to be made that human deforestation of SW Asia led to increased aridification, but that was probably also underway as the climate slowly warmed at the beginning of the Holocene.

Clearing of shrubs and native grasses, followed by plowing, is directly indicted in the American experience in the midwest and great plains that led to the dust bowl.

And so on.

And yes, it is feared that clearing the Amazon is leading to large portions of Brazil turning into a hot savannah that will be arid when lacking monsoon rains. Some studies have indicated that about 18% of the Amazon has already been lost. Very recently parts of the Brazilian government has been proposing allowing for some more clearing, supported by, of all things, the local Communist Party.

Somebody ought to ask Rohrabacher why he is endorsing a Communist proposal.

453 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:35:57am

re: #449 Slumbering Behemoth

Yer the dood who put up a scan of the last page of the last Harry Potter book online before it hit the stores, ain't ya?

Shhhhhhh........

454 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:37:09am

re: #452 freetoken

"Soil" includes dead plant material, yes. It becomes food for other living things, from fungi and bacteria to the worms.

As for deforestation causing desertification... there are cases to be made that human deforestation of SW Asia led to increased aridification, but that was probably also underway as the climate slowly warmed at the beginning of the Holocene.

Clearing of shrubs and native grasses, followed by plowing, is directly indicted in the American experience in the midwest and great plains that led to the dust bowl.

And so on.

And yes, it is feared that clearing the Amazon is leading to large portions of Brazil turning into a hot savannah that will be arid when lacking monsoon rains. Some studies have indicated that about 18% of the Amazon has already been lost. Very recently parts of the Brazilian government has been proposing allowing for some more clearing, supported by, of all things, the local Communist Party.

Somebody ought to ask Rohrabacher why he is endorsing a Communist proposal.

Well, and isn't there an oxygen supply/quality issue at hand with the rainforests?

455 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:37:19am

re: #446 negativ

I see things like that and assume that I couldn't set foot inside the door for less than $100.

And once I did, I'd be surrounded by coked-up kids partying with Daddy's money, and/or a million clones of that same desperate wannabe actress from Houston, who spent six years preparing for her big screen debut by dancing naked on a stage, and who eventually ends up realizing her celluloid dreams by going direct-to-video, co-starring in "Ten Miles of Tough Tongue" and "Not-So-Tiny Tim." Hey, it's work. You gotta keep working.

Oh and the people there tend to be very friendly and a great cross section of all of SoCal.

456 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:37:19am

re: #404 ggt

Hey all, just 1 question.

Doesn't rotting vegetation create topsoil?

ok, 2 questions.

Doesn't lack of trees; rotting vegetation and topsoil lead to desertification?

I forgot, 3 questions.

Anyone awake?

There's no need to guess. We have the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

With more cited sources than you can shake a stick at, unless you're an extraordinarily adept stick shaker.

457 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:38:27am

re: #448 ggt

How long were you waiting for the opportunity to say that?


Since Zeus was a baby

458 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:38:33am

re: #450 boxhead

The prices are like $8 to $10 for hand crafted drinks. You don't go to these places to get drunk. You go to have a great drink or three. Although not all on that list are pricey. The Golden Gopher, Casey's and Tony's are more moderate. But I must add, all these bars have weekly specials that rock!

This displaced an ugly part of town.......... many cities are doing this with great success.

459 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:39:35am

re: #456 negativ

There's no need to guess. We have the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

With more cited sources than you can shake a stick at, unless you're an extraordinarily adept stick shaker.

I like freetoken's answer better.

460 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:40:44am

re: #458 Mr Pancakes

This displaced an ugly part of town... many cities are doing this with great success.

Not so much ugly, but rather abandoned. Well, some of the locations. I remember going to a play in downtown and having dinner first. When we left the restaurant to go to the Music Center, Down Town was like a ghost town. Now it is alive.

461 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:41:28am

The Peanuts, with "Lullaby of Honshu":

MP3 Audio
462 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:41:30am

I think Rorhrbacher is harkening back to Ronald Reagan's infamous quote about how trees cause pollution.

463 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:41:53am

re: #460 boxhead

Not so much ugly, but rather abandoned. Well, some of the locations. I remember going to a play in downtown and having dinner first. When we left the restaurant to go to the Music Center, Down Town was like a ghost town. Now it is alive.

Well that's what I meant....... make the area viable.

464 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:43:02am

re: #463 Mr Pancakes

Well that's what I meant... make the area viable.

If albusteve were here, I could make a comment about capitalism. It's just not as much fun without him.

465 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:44:48am

re: #464 ggt

If albusteve were here, I could make a comment about capitalism. It's just not as much fun without him.

Dude Steve is cool....... he lost a leg. His pissed me off once but we got past it.

466 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:45:12am

re: #465 Mr Pancakes

Dude Steve is cool... he lost a leg. His pissed me off once but we got past it.

He is cool. I like the banter. He is good at it.

467 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:45:13am

re: #432 negativ

BTW, I've book-marked that gem right close to this one.

Youtube Video
468 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:45:43am

re: #463 Mr Pancakes

Well that's what I meant... make the area viable.

yep... and fun... The Standard in down town has an amazing roof top bar with a swimming pool, water beds, fire place, etc. It is pricey but worth it once in a while.

469 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:49:45am

re: #467 Slumbering Behemoth

BTW, I've book-marked that gem right close to this one.

[Video]

I dunno...... after watching that maybe I should be a Christian now..... nah

470 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:50:56am

re: #469 Mr Pancakes

I dunno... after watching that maybe I should be a Christian now... nah

Hey, if it keeps you on the "straight and narrow". . . .

471 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:51:32am

re: #467 Slumbering Behemoth

I gather this is not a parody: is he really saying that evolution is a fairy tale, but a story of God making man out of mud and woman out of his rib is not?

472 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:51:49am

re: #445 Slumbering Behemoth

An excellent lampoon of ole time gospel.

This is the Real Thing:

Youtube Video

And has the added benefit of being musically interesting, in that you don't hear perfect-fifth harmony in bluegrass vocals very often.

Crazy persons might be entertained by the tangentially-relevant knowledge that in the earliest days of polyphonic music (think something similar to Gregorian chants), any interval other than a perfect-fifth was considered "unholy". A flatted-fifth was thought to be likely to invoke the devil.

Note that the people who thought that up were the same geniuses who thought it was completely normal and in keeping with reality to torture women until they 'confessed' to having sex with the devil and cursing the crops to fail and half the town's babies to die of dysentery. The ones who confessed would go to Heaven after they were burned alive, and the ones who didn't confess would go to Hell.

473 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:52:37am

re: #465 Mr Pancakes

Steve is a unique character. Abrasive as all hell, but genuine. We lock horns often, but always walk away as friends. No butt-hurt, no hard feelings.

I don't know that dude in the meat world, but I believe if we were to meet there, we would have a great time.

/Well, at least I would.

474 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:53:15am

re: #471 ralphieboy

I gather this is not a parody: is he really saying that evolution is a fairy tale, but a story of God making man out of mud and woman out of his rib is not?

Hey, the truth is stranger than fiction.

LOL

475 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:54:27am

do men really have one less rib than women?

476 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:54:44am

re: #471 ralphieboy

From his Youtube page:

Buddy Davis is a well-known singer and speaker for the "Answers in Genesis" Creation Museum.

477 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:55:17am

re: #469 Mr Pancakes

I dunno... after watching that maybe I should be a Christian now... nah

lol... that is someone said in an email after watching this dude getting hit by lightning twice and still walked away.

478 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:56:24am

re: #471 ralphieboy

I gather this is not a parody: is he really saying that evolution is a fairy tale, but a story of God making man out of mud and woman out of his rib is not?

Not a parody, but funny as all get out. Another...

Youtube Video
479 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:57:11am

re: #477 boxhead

lol... that is someone said in an email after watching this dude getting hit by lightning twice and still walked away.

looks like two wet spots where he was standing.

480 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:57:27am

re: #477 boxhead

lol... that is someone said in an email after watching this dude getting hit by lightning twice and still walked away.

Damn

481 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:57:45am

100:1 against that being real.

482 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:57:46am

re: #480 Mr Pancakes

Damn

no shit

483 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:58:07am

re: #475 ggt

do men really have one less rib than women?

I dunno.... let me check

484 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:58:20am

re: #479 ggt

looks like two wet spots where he was standing.

I wonder if it was faked...... Or Zeus was pissed!

485 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:58:57am

re: #484 boxhead

I wonder if it was faked... Or Zeus was pissed!

I dunno, guy must of had a lot of beers to pee that much after each strike.

486 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:59:26am

re: #485 ggt

I dunno, guy must of had a lot of beers to pee that much after each strike.

lol

487 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:01:32am

re: #483 Mr Pancakes

I dunno... let me check

and . . . . .?

488 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:01:38am

re: #478 Slumbering Behemoth

This is the old ideal vision of America: everyone as a self-sustaining, sovereign citizen on their own piece of land, we enter into no contracts agreements except out of our own initiative. We need no government to interfere in our right of self-determination.

To bad it was already a fading vision at the time the Constitution was framed...

489 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:02:15am

re: #467 Slumbering Behemoth

BTW, I've book-marked that gem right close to this one.

[Video]

Add this to your collection (IF YOU DARE)

Youtube Video
490 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:02:25am

re: #488 ralphieboy

This is the old ideal vision of America: everyone as a self-sustaining, sovereign citizen on their own piece of land, we enter into no contracts agreements except out of our own initiative. We need no government to interfere in our right of self-determination.

To bad it was already a fading vision at the time the Constitution was framed...

sucks for those who can actually be self-sustaining.

491 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:03:29am

re: #487 ggt

and . . .?

My wife appears to have the same rib count as I......... let me check again.

492 boxhead  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:05:08am

Sleep calls.... good night Lizards!

493 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:05:30am

snopes!

494 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:06:40am

re: #493 ggt

snopes!

I'm checking again .... I may not return.

495 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:06:40am

re: #490 ggt

sucks for those who can actually be self-sustaining.

How "self-sustaining" can one truly be? never using a public road, home schooling one's children?

If we came into the world as fully-formed adults, ready to make our way realizing our potential in a competitive world, I would be fully in favor of full-on Any Rand individualistic laissez-faire.

496 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:07:34am

re: #495 ralphieboy

How "self-sustaining" can one truly be? never using a public road, home schooling one's children?

If we came into the world as fully-formed adults, ready to make our way realizing our potential in a competitive world, I would be fully in favor of full-on Any Rand individualistic laissez-faire.

I think the self-sustaining part had a lot to do with exactly "who" was considered a citizen. The rest didn't count.

497 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:07:43am

re: #475 ggt

do men really have one less rib than women?

ಠ_ಠ

498 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:09:28am

re: #475 ggt

do men really have one less rib than women?

Well, it's like this..

Gawd, seeing that Adam was lonely, being unique among his kind, came to him and said...

I will create for you a counterpart, a female to match your male. She (that's right, We calll it a "She") will be beautiful beyond comparison. She will be intelligent, compassionate, and artistic. She will be loving, caring, and nurturing. She will be perfect in every way.

Adam, though having been born Yesterday, was not entirely stupid. He asked "For all this, I know there must be some kind of 'catch'. What is it"?

Gawd replied "It will cost you an arm and a leg".

To which Adam responded "Okay, what can I get for a rib"?

499 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:09:34am

America did offer the chance to people who wanted to live on their own land to have the chance to do so: that option had expired in Europe long before.

But how many Americans could phsically inhabit their own 40 acres with a mule and a well, even if they chose to do so?

500 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:11:09am

re: #495 ralphieboy

How "self-sustaining" can one truly be? never using a public road, home schooling one's children?

If we came into the world as fully-formed adults, ready to make our way realizing our potential in a competitive world, I would be fully in favor of full-on Any Rand individualistic laissez-faire.

I'd be in favor of individuals who grow-up not thinking that public aid in the form of my money were normal and acceptable.

I really advocate a comprehensive contraception education in public schools and not a little education about the benefits of delaying pregnancy and childbirth until a person can at least pay their own rent.

501 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:13:15am

re: #500 ggt

I'd be in favor of individuals who grow-up not thinking that public aid in the form of my money were normal and acceptable.

We have leading corporations who think this is a perfectly fine way of doing business...

502 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:14:46am

re: #501 ralphieboy

We have leading corporations who think this is a perfectly fine way of doing business...

Of course, my money buys their product --pork rinds and coke. And beer in some cases.

Yes, the corruption/waste is entrenched.

503 Mr Pancakes  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:15:47am

Goodnight all ..... after all this rib counting the wife wants me to take her to IHOP.

504 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:16:37am

Night from the VEry Far Western Parts of Chicagoland as well.

Have a great evening/morning all!

505 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:24:21am

re: #502 ggt

I was thinking more in terms of bailouts, tax credits or no-bid, cost-plus government contracts.

506 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:24:32am

re: #488 ralphieboy

The thing is, I can totally dig the whole "rugged individualism" thing. And I've done more than camping in the woods. I've lived out of a tiny car, slept in it in major downtown areas, eating crap from a can using a Buck knife as a spoon.

But not as a matter of fear from or protest against the "Big Brother" gov't., but as a matter circumstances, often resulting from my own fuck ups.

507 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:28:08am

re: #506 Slumbering Behemoth


I was also able to list my address as "the back of a ford truck parked somewhere off Highway 87" in Arizona.

Among these "rugged individualists" we seem to have a lot of sociopathic types who want blame society for their own inability to cope with what is the norm for most people.

508 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:31:08am

re: #500 ggt

I really advocate a comprehensive contraception education in public schools and not a little education about the benefits of delaying pregnancy and childbirth until a person can at least pay their own rent.

The problem with your thinking is this:

You understand how human reproduction works.

Try and think back to when you were 11, 12, 13 years old. You and/or your friends probably had some really bizarre, stupid, and dangerous ideas about sex.

(SIDE NOTE: If you object to the very idea of 11, 12, and 13 year-olds formulating ideas about sex, you're denying reality and thereby perpetuating the problem)

I remember from that age all sorts of ridiculously incorrect information being passed around among my peers. A girl can't get pregnant if it's her 'first time', to cite only one example. Hesitantly accepted, anxiety-ridden reassurances that you can't get pregnant from kissing. Lots and lots of kids genuinely have no idea how pregnancy occurs. And lots and lots of adults make it their life's work to shield kids from any and all information about the subject (while simultaneously being more promiscuous than any 1970s disco cliche could ever hope to be).

509 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:38:32am

re: #508 negativ


I agree with the conservative notion that people should be held responsible for their own actions.

But I also think that they need to be given the all information they need to make responsible decisions.


That certainly applies to teenagers and reproduction.

510 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:40:33am

re: #507 ralphieboy

we seem to have a lot of sociopathic types who want blame society for their own inability to cope with what is the norm for most people.

Word. I went through a rough spot, more than once. Mostly of my own making. Sometimes not. I'm grateful it all happened when I was younger and more, "rugged".

But I had no inclination to lash out against society. Much of my tough spots were of my own fuck ups. Not all of them, but most of them.

I can't imagine how much harder it would have been to pick myself up and "have at it" again if I had some kind of schizophrenic disorder.

511 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:42:04am

The Esther is Facebooking again.

This time she takes (as has become common in the very recent past among tea partiers) to quoting the Continental Congress' draft petition to the throne in England. The famous phrase "we were born the heirs of freedom," but takes it totally out of context, of course. The Esther says:

We'll celebrate the meaning of our nation's blueprints, our Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution, which are the threads that weave our past into the fabric necessary for the survival of American exceptionalism. Our founders declared "we were born the heirs of freedom," and despite our difficulties and disagreements, we remain one nation under God in freedom, indivisible. Through visits to historical sites and patriotic events, we'll share the importance of America's foundation.


Here's the whole paragraph (the drafting of which is sometimes attributed to John Jay, and sometimes to John Adams), which is part of a letter to be sent to George III:

Had our creator been pleased to give us existence in a land of slavery, the sense of our condition might have been mitigated by ignorance and habit. But thanks be to his adorable goodness, we were born the heirs of freedom, and ever enjoyed our right under the auspices of your royal ancestors, whose family was seated on the British throne, to rescue and secure a pious and gallant nation from the popery and despotism of a superstitious and inexorable tyrant. Your majesty, we are confident, justly rejoices, that your title to the crown is thus founded on the title of your people to liberty; and therefore we doubt not, but your royal wisdom must approve the sensibility, that teaches your subjects anxiously to guard the blessings, they received from divine providence, and thereby to prove the performance of that compact, which elevated the illustrious house of Brunswick to the imperial dignity it now possesses.

So, the Continental Congress was buttering up good ol' King George III, saying in essence how wonderful of a heritage it was to be part of the English crown system and that they were free while serving under George's predecessors.

Maybe The Esther wants to raise the issue of "popery"??

Sarah Palin is just plain stupid. Maliciously stupid.

512 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:48:53am

Q: Who is Sarah Palin's favorite Founding Father?

A: All of them!

That is based on an actual an interview, in which she tried to hide her ignorance of the Founding Fathers by a simple blanket statement.

513 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:49:31am

re: #508 negativ

(SIDE NOTE: If you object to the very idea of 11, 12, and 13 year-olds formulating ideas about sex, you're denying reality and thereby perpetuating the problem)

Independent of any other influence other than this, me and my male friends were formulating ideas about sex at the age of eight.

/Of course we had everything wrong, backwards, ignorant and juvenile, but we were thinking...

514 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:50:26am

re: #513 Slumbering Behemoth

There seems to be an attitude that teaching teenagers about sex only encourages them to think about it.

As if they needed encouragement...

515 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:51:49am

re: #512 ralphieboy

Q: Who is Sarah Palin's favorite Founding Father?

A: All of them!

That is based on an actual an interview, in which she tried to hide her ignorance of the Founding Fathers by a simple blanket statement.

And one in which Glenn Beck, of all people, actually tried to put her on the spot. Such weirdness.

516 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:52:03am

Certainly there isn't any other Republican on the national stage as dense as The Esther...

Oh, wait... I forgot:

Youtube Video
517 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:53:11am

re: #511 freetoken

This time she takes (as has become common in the very recent past among tea partiers) to quoting the Continental Congress' draft

I really wonder where this stuff comes from. Same as when she suddenly analogized the Park 51 project to the Srebrenica massacre. I'm 98.337% certain that she didn't come up with that on her own.

518 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:55:54am

re: #514 ralphieboy

Teenagers have been having sex since the advent of... teenagers.

Regardless of what one thinks about the issue, that is a fact.

/I think it's gross, what with all the pimples and awkwardness, but many years have passed since I was a teen.

519 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:56:07am

re: #517 negativ

I'm 98.337% certain that she didn't come up with that on her own.

No, she doesn't. That particular facebook entry is just a mashing together of words found on various tea party sites.

One thing I will say for Bachmann - she makes for a more coherent interviewee than Palin (who just comes off sound ignorant yet folksy.) Bachmann is actually a better politician than Palin, having placed herself in a congressional district where she can be re-elected, as opposed to The Esther who probably can't be elected to any office ever again.

520 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:57:54am

To round out the morning, I'll leave you in the good hands of the Harptones:

MP3 Audio
521 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:59:13am

re: #518 Slumbering Behemoth

There was a time, not that long ago, when it was perfectly normal for humans to begin reproducing as soon as their bodies allowed for it.

Society has changed, but our bodies are moving in the opposite direction, with puberty setting in even earlier than it did 100 years ago

522 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:07:21am

This is the way we wash the boats, wash the boats, wash the boats...
Morning Honcos.

523 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:10:04am

re: #522 Cannadian Club Akbar

"Morning"? Fuck you, I'm still not drunk enough to sleep!
/

524 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:11:01am

re: #523 Slumbering Behemoth

"Morning"? Fuck you, I'm still not drunk enough to sleep!
/

I do teach an online class on that very subject.
/

525 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:16:05am

re: #524 Cannadian Club Akbar

I do teach an online class on that very subject.
/

" Straws: The importance of drinking while hands are busy blogging".

526 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:16:14am

re: #521 ralphieboy

Society has changed, but our bodies are moving in the opposite direction, with puberty setting in even earlier than it did 100 years ago

Some folk say that's due to hormones fed to cows, which later end up in our dairy and beef products. But could it be another twist of evolution?

I've got no clue, I only know that it's weirding me out.

527 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:18:27am

re: #524 Cannadian Club Akbar

I do teach an online class on that very subject.
/

Bah. I've got all the expertise I need. What I lack is available resources.
/Will Work For Booze

528 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:21:51am

re: #527 Slumbering Behemoth

Bah. I've got all the expertise I need. What I lack is available resources.
/Will Work For Booze

I'm feelin' ya there. Not having cash for booze/beer sure has helped me drop some weight as well as that bulge in my midsection.

529 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:24:02am

re: #526 Slumbering Behemoth

Probably just do to improved diet overall. Remember, until 100 years ago, much of the world's population was perched on the edge of starvation, they were lucky to eat meat once or twice a month.

530 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:27:09am

re: #529 ralphieboy

Probably just do to improved diet overall. Remember, until 100 years ago, much of the world's population was perched on the edge of starvation, they were lucky to eat meat once or twice a month.

Cattle today are treated just like any other factory good. Get 'em in, get 'em fat, chop 'em up. Dairy cows are basically hooked up to milking machined constantly.

531 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:31:47am

Cool. I thought I had to get ready to go to work, but I don't so I have another hours to spend with youz guys. Poor bastards!!
/

532 researchok  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:32:38am

Morning, all

533 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:33:32am

re: #529 ralphieboy

Probably just do to improved diet overall. Remember, until 100 years ago, much of the world's population was perched on the edge of starvation, they were lucky to eat meat once or twice a month.

Felt that for a time. In a space divided from this one (SHUT UP! I'm drunk and trying for an "Outer Limits" type thing)...

Anyway, there was a spot when a roommate and I would be lucky just to get cheap ground beef. I shit you not, meat was so rare for us at the time that we felt a buzz after eating it.

534 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:36:05am

re: #533 Slumbering Behemoth

I give up meat ecery year for lent (not out of religious reasons, just for general health) and I have to say that this year I am back to eating meat, but rarely more than 1-2 times a week.

535 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:36:29am

re: #533 Slumbering Behemoth

I used to buy whole chicken, cut off the legs and wings, make 2 dinners with those (with instant taters next to them) then take the carcass and boil/strip it and make chicken and yellow rice. Food for 4 days.

536 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:36:37am

re: #531 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cool. I thought I had to get ready to go to work, but I don't so I have another hours to spend with youz guys. Poor bastards!!
/

Not me. I think I just hit that sweet spot where I am drunk enough to sleep.

Peace out, Lizards.

537 researchok  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:37:56am

I'm going back to bed...

The notion of 'day surgery' is a myth. I feel like a truck hit me.

Later all

538 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:38:21am

re: #534 ralphieboy

I give up meat ecery year for lent (not out of religious reasons, just for general health) and I have to say that this year I am back to eating meat, but rarely more than 1-2 times a week.

I worked with a girl years ago who would give up beef for 6 months at a time. But afterward when she did have beef it made her sick.

539 researchok  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:38:22am

re: #536 Slumbering Behemoth

Not me. I think I just hit that sweet spot where I am drunk enough to sleep.

Peace out, Lizards.

I could use some of that...

540 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:44:53am

Awww... but before I go.

I blame Miss Grey and Miss Carter for my predilection towards brunettes.

I mean, how could you not?

Laters all.

541 Obdicut  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:47:08am

re: #535 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hell, I'm comparatively wealthy now, and I still do that. Though not with instant taters.

It's funny; some of the foods I ate when I was poor I can't even stand the smell of anymore. But others have turned into comfort food. Like onions; I used to live near a farmers market in the Tenderloin and bought and ate tons of onions. They're not that calorie-laden, but they're really nutritious and very filling. Now they've become the staple of my diet. I make a base of onions for most dishes I eat.

542 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:51:06am

re: #541 Obdicut

I made chicken and yellow rice the other night. Fed 5 adults, with leftovers, for less than $10. And I still buy $1.39 hot dogs. As a snack, not a meal. But when I get a windfall I'll splurge on the Hebrew Nationals.

543 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:55:54am

This is right around the corner from where I will be working today.:)
[Link: www.myfoxtampabay.com...]

544 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:40:48am

Looking at apartments in case I need one. Found one that is $150 more than the average prices and the ad says "not only convenient, but chic and cool". Guess the extra money is a trade off for not having to wear a Kevlar vest. Heh.

545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:47:58am

re: #544 Cannadian Club Akbar

When my wife and I first married we rented a nice cute little house for $150.00 per month.

Why we ever moved? Dunno.

546 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:49:18am

re: #543 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wife and daughter are flying to Clearwater Beach in June for four days. They gonna like it?

547 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:50:08am

re: #546 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wife and daughter are flying to Clearwater Beach in June for four days. They gonna like it?

Nope. GONNA LOVE IT!!! Clearwater kicks ass.

548 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:51:18am

re: #547 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nope. GONNA LOVE IT!!! Clearwater kicks ass.

[Link: www.visitclearwaterflorida.com...]

549 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:52:32am

re: #540 Slumbering Behemoth

I though I'd see Nell Carter when I clicked.

550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:52:45am

re: #548 Cannadian Club Akbar

Awesome!

551 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:53:42am

re: #550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Awesome!

Are they staying on the beach? Traffic can be hell there this time of year.

552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:54:07am

re: #548 Cannadian Club Akbar

yeah... I had a bunch of hotel points saved up, they're going to a resort... fancy-pants vacation for two for a 500.00 flight and a 60.00 cab ride plus food.

553 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:54:30am

re: #551 Cannadian Club Akbar

Right on the beach.

554 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:54:36am

This is in St. Pete, not far away.
[Link: thedali.org...]

555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:55:45am

re: #554 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've been there. Had an hour or two to kill. When I left I found I had been there for five hours.

556 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:00:50am

re: #555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been there. Had an hour or two to kill. When I left I found I had been there for five hours.

They can also go here [Link: www.970wfla.com...] before they come. Just click on the events calander and see what's happening.

557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:04:11am

re: #556 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are going to...
1. The beach.
2. The restaurant.
3. Their room.
Rinse, Repeat

558 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:06:37am

re: #557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They are going to...
1. The beach.
2. The restaurant.
3. Their room.
Rinse, Repeat

They should look into a twilight boat ride. I'm sure the hotel will have some place at a discounted rate.

559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:08:35am

re: #558 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are going to...
1. The beach.
2. The restaurant.
3. Their room.
Rinse, Repeat

(I'm nervous about my two girls being down there alone)

560 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:10:55am

re: #559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wouldn't worry. Tourist is what keeps the economy going here and the community isn't gonna let themselves get a black eye. One incident would make people cancel trips.

561 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:12:19am

Alrighty. Gotta get ready to wash the boats. BBL.

562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:38:18am

re: #561 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alrighty. Gotta get ready to wash the boats. BBL.


That what the kids are calling it nowadays?

563 Obdicut  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:39:44am

re: #562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That what the kids are calling it nowadays?

I'm making jerky.

564 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:13:34am

Beef strokin' off?

565 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:03:28am

killed the thread again...

566 Obdicut  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:12:52am

re: #565 ralphieboy

killed the thread again...

Youtube Video
567 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:17:50am

see you on thursday, then...

568 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:33:19am

Morning, LGF. :)

569 Four More Tears  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:35:35am

Egypt Gaza Border Reopened Permanently

Discuss...

570 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:41:46am

are they allowing "humanitarian aid" shipments?

571 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:41:55am

re: #519 freetoken

No, she doesn't. That particular facebook entry is just a mashing together of words found on various tea party sites.

One thing I will say for Bachmann - she makes for a more coherent interviewee than Palin (who just comes off sound ignorant yet folksy.) Bachmann is actually a better politician than Palin, having placed herself in a congressional district where she can be re-elected, as opposed to The Esther who probably can't be elected to any office ever again.

Good point.

572 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:47:39am

re: #569 JasonA

Egypt Gaza Border Reopened Permanently

Discuss...

Ah, shit. That means more BM-21s for Hamas.

573 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:50:30am

Morning, all. Traveling in the Birmingham area, Land of Blue Tarp Roofs.
Will post more if I can beat this clumsy Win7/ethernet connection.

574 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:50:34am

this is what we get for allowing a democratic revolution to take place. just sait and see what they do to libya...

575 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:56:27am

re: #569 JasonA

Egypt Gaza Border Reopened Permanently

Discuss...

I'm not sure. I had read earlier that they were going to allow Israeli and UN some power to screen passengers but I'm not sure if that agreement is still in effect. I sort of doubt it will help much with weapons smuggling because they can already get anything they want through the tunnels. Even with the crossing open it's still safer to bring in weapons through the tunnels rather than the crossing.

576 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:58:45am

those radicals would probably turn Iran into some kind of islamist dictatorship if we let them...

577 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:05:21am

re: #575 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure. I had read earlier that they were going to allow Israeli and UN some power to screen passengers but I'm not sure if that agreement is still in effect. I sort of doubt it will help much with weapons smuggling because they can already get anything they want through the tunnels. Even with the crossing open it's still safer to bring in weapons through the tunnels rather than the crossing.

Is it beyond the pale to hope that an open border is a good thing and not just about terrorism?

I have a very open mind.

578 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:11:18am

re: #577 Stanley Sea

Is it beyond the pale to hope that an open border is a good thing and not just about terrorism?

I have a very open mind.

Part of the purpose of closing the crossing was an attempt to undermine support for Hamas among the people of Gaza. It didn't work. Since the strip is ruled by a terrorist organization the opening will assist terrorism. It's also very dangerous if Egypt starts allowing weapons shipments through. It's the kind of thing that could lead to another war.

579 Surabaya Stew  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:13:35am

re: #569 JasonA

Egypt Gaza Border Reopened Permanently

Discuss...

Well, since any potential Palestinian state would feature an open border crossing with Egypt anyway, and said crossing was open until 4 years ago, and any Terrorists can just smuggle in weapons in through dozens of tunnels under the Gaza/Egypt border anyway....

...Me thinks its more useful to think of this in the context of the recent uprising in Egypt and the transitional Governments more populist attitude. In other words, do to the Egyptian publics feelings, this border crossing will never be closed again, baring a regional war. Meaning, we have to get over it, now and deal with it as a reality and as a potential opportunity rather than as a threat.

DIdn't say it would be easy, be we don't really have a choice.

580 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:15:00am

re: #578 Killgore Trout

Part of the purpose of closing the crossing was an attempt to undermine support for Hamas among the people of Gaza. It didn't work. Since the strip is ruled by a terrorist organization the opening will assist terrorism. It's also very dangerous if Egypt starts allowing weapons shipments through. It's the kind of thing that could lead to another war.

Or it could be the path to normal life. We will watch and see, but the doom and gloom has to go. I know the history and don't discard it, but damn it, I'm praying that the young folks are going to change things. #moonbatsquared

581 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:16:02am

It's not like the border has been thrown open (nor that is as permeable to people and weapons as the US-Mexico border) They are still restricting access and controlling people, men under 40 need a permit and all have to carry an Israeli-issued ID card.

582 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:16:10am

Opportunity vs. threat. Great post Surbaya.

583 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:16:34am

re: #577 Stanley Sea

Is it beyond the pale to hope that an open border is a good thing and not just about terrorism?

I have a very open mind.

Sometimes, treating people like people can be a good thing.

Mornin', everyone.

584 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:17:29am

re: #582 Stanley Sea

Opportunity vs. threat. Great post Surbaya.


How can anything conncted with the Muslim world be seen as anything but a threat?

/

585 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:18:09am

re: #583 darthstar

Sometimes, treating people like people can be a good thing.

Mornin', everyone.

Dude, your corn in shit thingy yesterday made me laugh so out loud at work. I'm stressing and laughing at the same time. Busted huge.

586 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:21:46am

re: #585 Stanley Sea

Dude, your corn in shit thingy yesterday made me laugh so out loud at work. I'm stressing and laughing at the same time. Busted huge.

We all have to be remembered for something significant in our lives...mine is corn in shit.

587 Surabaya Stew  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:23:49am

re: #580 Stanley Sea

Or it could be the path to normal life. We will watch and see, but the doom and gloom has to go. I know the history and don't discard it, but damn it, I'm praying that the young folks are going to change things. #moonbatsquared

Seriously, this is only the first step in getting Gazians into thinking more like their more enlightened country-folk in the west bank who actually seem to be attempting to build something useful instead of rockets and bombs. That is the best way to get Palestinians out of this terrorist mentality that involves throwing Israel into the sea; making enough wealth to make war unfathomable for their children.

It will take years, but we have to start sometime.

re: #582 Stanley Sea

Thanks for the kind words, Stanley!

588 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:24:52am

re: #586 darthstar

We all have to be remembered for something significant in our lives...mine is corn in shit.

No doubt. Trophy for you.

589 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:28:53am

re: #587 Surabaya Stew

Seriously, this is only the first step in getting Gazians into thinking more like their more enlightened country-folk in the west bank who actually seem to be attempting to build something useful instead of rockets and bombs. That is the best way to get Palestinians out of this terrorist mentality that involves throwing Israel into the sea; making enough wealth to make war unfathomable for their children.

It will take years, but we have to start sometime.

re: #582 Stanley Sea

Thanks for the kind words, Stanley!

Fight against the status quo mentality. I swear, it's the youth (and contra LGF oldies, they are not all poisoned) who will change it.

Hope.

590 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:30:35am

Octopi fucking.

It's a photo-diary at dKos...the poster happened upon two octopi and got some very good shots...worth looking at.

591 bratwurst  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:33:37am

Sad news: Gil Scott-Heron has passed away at the age of 62. While it is tragic that an artist with such a remarkably promising start had such a long period of physical and artistic decline, we will always have his brilliant moments to enjoy.

[Link: chicagoist.com...]

Youtube Video
592 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:44:35am

Check out this farmer's market. [Link: p2.to...]

593 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:47:46am

re: #592 Stanley Sea

See, those people know how to prosper without intrusive government regulations.

594 allegro  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:52:54am

re: #592 Stanley Sea

Check out this farmer's market. [Link: p2.to...]

Whoa! That is a trip!

595 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:56:35am

re: #592 Stanley Sea

Check out this farmer's market. [Link: p2.to...]

Heh. I saw another version of that video, it started a bit earlier and you could watch as they withdrew those awnings that you see being put back into place in this version.

596 sattv4u2  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:56:50am

re: #592 Stanley Sea

Check out this farmer's market. [Link: p2.to...]

Every vegetable stand sells (wait for it)

squash!

597 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:05:22am

re: #596 sattv4u2

Every vegetable stand sells (wait for it)

squash!

We count our blessings. Our veggies don't smell like diesel.

598 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:17:11am

you want a tossed salad? just wait for the next train!

599 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:22:20am

Speaking of tossed salads, Sarah Palin announced (online) that she was going to be a guest at Rolling Thunder...only she didn't tell them and they have no interest in having her speak.

One day after Sarah Palin announced her bus tour, a group sponsoring a Memorial Day weekend event she plans to attend said they never invited her.

"She wasn't invited. We heard yesterday she came out with a press release she was coming to Rolling Thunder," Ted Shpak, national legislative director of Rolling Thunder, told "Andrea Mitchell Reports." Shpak is one of three members of Rolling Thunder's current leadership who says he had no idea Palin was coming until it was posted on her website.

Apparently, she had one of those verbal "standing invitations" from a former Rolling Thunder organizer, and like the old high school friend you see at a grocery store who shows up with his entire family after you casually say "we should get together sometime", she's cashing in her marker.

600 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:24:28am

re: #599 darthstar

You mean like George Harrison once casually inviting a Hell's Angel to visit them in London and having one move into the Apple headquarters?

I'd rather have the Hell's Angels...

601 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:26:05am

re: #599 darthstar

Dear god, it gets better...how do you get your stupid ass on TV as part of a major event? Get a permit to have your new bus parked next to the event without telling the event organizers.

DePaulo says he has a permit for the Palin bus to be parked on Henry Bacon Drive near the Lincoln Memorial. He acknowledges he didnt tell current leaders of the organization that she was coming, since they were already on the road.

When asked if Palin's bus will be participating in the event, Shpak of Rolling Thunder Inc. responded, "Absolutely not."

602 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:27:52am

sounds like real presidential-class organization

603 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:31:49am

re: #602 ralphieboy

sounds like real presidential-class organization

Let's hope she decides to park it next to the Hatch Shell in Boston for the 4th of July...that event should be about her too.

604 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:34:58am

Starting to sound like a Spinal Tap World Tour already...

Youtube Video
605 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:35:58am

Gah I hate that idiot.

606 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:37:21am

re: #605 Stanley Sea

Gah I hate that idiot.

Get in line (it starts behind the 10,000 Harley riding veterans over there)...

607 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:39:07am

I hope she runs. Voice of Forrest Gump's kid buddy:

"Run Sarah, Run!"

608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:42:42am

Got thrown out of a customer's house an hour ago.

Yay!

609 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:43:43am

happens to hookers all the time...

610 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:44:35am

re: #609 ralphieboy

You callin' me a hooker? Huh?!?

Good call.

611 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:48:03am

take it as a compliment, means you were getting paid for your time...

612 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:48:30am

re: #608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got thrown out of a customer's house an hour ago.

Yay!


LOL

613 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:50:47am

re: #608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got thrown out of a customer's house an hour ago.

Yay!

What happened?

614 Four More Tears  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:52:00am

re: #613 wrenchwench

What happened?

And more importantly...are they still looking to hire someone???

615 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:52:44am

Customer wanted me to design a kitchen for them, however the wife would not come to take part. I told the husband that it can't be done without her and she shouted at me (from the back bedroom) to get out.

Spent the better part of an hour trying to lure her out before she tossed me.

Stupid people are stupid.

616 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:54:07am

re: #615 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On the bright side? I only had to drive TWO AND A HALF FUCKING HOURS TO GET THERE!

617 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:54:37am

re: #616 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On the bright side? I only had to drive TWO AND A HALF FUCKING HOURS TO GET THERE!

PEOPLE

618 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:55:19am

re: #617 Stanley Sea

MEAN PEOPLE SUCK

619 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:57:19am

re: #615 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Customer wanted me to design a kitchen for them, however the wife would not come to take part. I told the husband that it can't be done without her and she shouted at me (from the back bedroom) to get out.

Spent the better part of an hour trying to lure her out before she tossed me.

Stupid people are stupid.

Sounds like something you don't want to be in the middle of. Out was a good place to be throw, especially if the weather is nice.

620 William of Orange  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:58:03am

Rest in peace, Gil Scott-Heron. Godfather of Rap.

"The revolution will not be televised."

Youtube Video

Another gem.
"Home is where the hatred is".

Youtube Video
621 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:58:08am

sounds like you wandered into a smouldering domestic argument.

622 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:58:15am

re: #619 wrenchwench

Yep. Hence, "Yay!"

623 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:58:58am

re: #620 William of Orange

I had never heard of him before yesterday. I don't get it.

But, I guess I don't have to.

624 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:59:27am

re: #599 darthstar

From your link:

"We're not political. This is not a political event ... Maybe she's coming because she knows we have a half a million people in town and thinking she can start her [campaign]?" stated Shpak.

I wonder what the actual word was that they replaced with [campaign].

"Shit", maybe?

625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:59:54am

re: #621 ralphieboy

sounds like you wandered into a smouldering domestic argument.

Nah, they were both too frickin' fat to be able to have the energy to argue.

Maybe they'll die.

A boy can dream.

626 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:00:21am

re: #623 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

he was never massively popular, just highly influential

627 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:02:35am

re: #625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah, they were both too frickin' fat to be able to have the energy to argue.

Maybe they'll die.

A boy can dream.

lol, the humanity leeching out of your pores.

628 Stanghazi  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:08:28am

Read this

What I learned in Joplin

629 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:10:41am

Another reason to grow your own: Nine dead in German E. coli outbreak

Two more Germans, both women, died yesterday of a bacterial outbreak allegedly caused by contaminated Spanish cucumbers, bringing the number of deaths to nine.

Almost 300 people have become sick with haemolytic uremic syndrome, or HUS, in recent days.

630 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:11:40am

I go back to pizzas and deep-fried foods...

631 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:15:53am

re: #629 Killgore Trout

I don't have the time to grow my own. So, I'll keep taking my chances.

I seem to be very adept at growing dandelions, crabgrass, inedible mushrooms and clover. Not very good at the grass, though.

My father in law has planted 60 tomato plants..

I'll be swimming in them before the end of July.

Nothing in the world is better than a slice of home grown 'mater on a sammich.

Om nom nom.

632 darthstar  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:19:51am

re: #624 wrenchwench

From your link:

I wonder what the actual word was that they replaced with [campaign].

"Shit", maybe?

probably "bullshit run for president"...

633 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:19:54am

re: #592 Stanley Sea

Check out this farmer's market. [Link: p2.to...]

"Please do not flush while the train is in the station."

634 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:20:40am

re: #628 Stanley Sea

Read this

What I learned in Joplin

That's better than reading the finished-product news story.

From your link:

I’m aware that what I’m going to say next will probably sound petty, given the scope of the tragedy I was witnessing. But the lack of cell service was an all-consuming problem. Rescue workers and survivors struggled with it just as I did.

What I learned: It’s easy to scoff at the suggestion that satisfactory cell service is a matter of national security and necessity. But I won’t scoff anymore. If I were planning a newsroom’s response to emergencies, I would buy those backpacks that have six or eight wireless cards in them, all connected to different cell tower operators, thereby upping the chances of finding a signal at any given time.

That's a major chronic problem along the Mexican border. A border security measure was recently introduced in honor of Giffords, and all it asked for was improved cell phone service.

635 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:25:45am

We're visiting the grand-Deb born last Oct. Last week he got a vaccination and responded with a clear "goddam". Nurse ran laughing from the room. His churchly mother is eyeing me with distrust. (He can respond reliably when mom tells him to 'Find the letter C' or "Find he letter U' on his alphabet wall. If he learns F and K next, I'm toast.

636 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:28:07am

re: #635 Decatur Deb

We're visiting the grand-Deb born last Oct. Last week he got a vaccination and responded with a clear "goddam". Nurse ran laughing from the room. His churchly mother is eyeing me with distrust. (He can respond reliably when mom tells him to 'Find the letter C' or "Find he letter U' on his alphabet wall. If he learns F and K next, I'm toast.

Sounds like you and he will be giving his mother grief for many years to come.

637 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:29:26am

re: #633 Decatur Deb

I wonder if people die from that very often.

638 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:30:24am

re: #636 wrenchwench

Sounds like you and he will be giving his mother grief for many years to come.

Oops. Mrs Deb says he was born last Aug, not Oct. That's within the male margin-of-error for birthdays and anniversaries.

639 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:30:34am

re: #635 Decatur Deb

How old?

The child should be kept away from you.
/

640 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:33:16am

re: #635 Decatur Deb

He can respond reliably when mom tells him to 'Find the letter C' or "Find he letter U' on his alphabet wall. If he learns F and K next, I'm toast.

Your text to link...

641 bratwurst  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:33:36am

Here is the profile of Scott-Heron from The New Yorker last year detailing his long, harrowing decline. No, he was never massively popular. However, he was among the first artists signed to Arista by Clive Davis and recorded a number of brilliant albums, especially between 1971 and 1978. He also appeared on Saturday Night Live back in the day too.

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

642 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:38:27am

Blackalicious featuring Gil Scott-Heron, First in Flight:

Youtube Video
643 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:39:56am

re: #638 Decatur Deb

Oops. Mrs Deb says he was born last Aug, not Oct. That's within the male margin-of-error for birthdays and anniversaries.

OK, not quite as extremely precocious as I thought. Still, he counts among the scary-smart kids.

644 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:40:08am

Scott-Heron was on crack? That is very sad.

645 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:41:33am

re: #635 Decatur Deb

We're visiting the grand-Deb born last Oct. Last week he got a vaccination and responded with a clear "goddam". Nurse ran laughing from the room. His churchly mother is eyeing me with distrust. (He can respond reliably when mom tells him to 'Find the letter C' or "Find he letter U' on his alphabet wall. If he learns F and K next, I'm toast.

They say it skips a generation.

646 Decatur Deb  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:48:03am

Lunch. BBL

647 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:52:40am

Well I went out last night to Karaoke. These people in Oklahoma are just so damn friendly.. My mom always told me I have never met a stranger..But I think this group had me beat. I am very impressed..Now I have a bunch of new cell numbers in my phone..
We closed the place down shaking hands and hugging each other..
Fun fun fun

648 abolitionist  Sat, May 28, 2011 11:04:49am

Honoring Memorial Day in the Nation's Capital (24 images)

bbl


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