World Net Daily Publisher Joseph Farah: God’s Angry at Obama, So He Sent Tornadoes

Far right End Times paranoia
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How about a slice of End Times paranoia, garnished with fear of a black President, courtesy of Joseph Farah, publisher of Weird Nut Daily? Maybe doomsday is near.

In this almost unbelievably crazed article, full of quotes from the Bible, Farah argues that the recent tornadoes that struck the US were Barack Obama’s fault — because God is angry with him for his policies toward Israel. I’m not making this up.

Joseph Farah’s God resembles a serial killer who picks victims at random, a cruel, vengeful, and capricious deity who kills children in Oklahoma to teach the President of the United States a lesson.

This article is a beautiful example of the bizarre Christianist mindset that many mistake as “support for Israel.” Farah and his fellow fundamentalists only “support” Israel because it’s their personal Armageddon Machine. Jews are just placeholders to them; when Jesus returns, according to Farah’s fanatical theology, the Jews will be expelled and/or “perfected,” and Jerusalem will be the new center of Christian power, forever and ever, amen.

In God’s economy, there is Israel and then there are the other nations.

It was through Israel He chose to reveal Himself to the world – eventually through the birth, life, death and resurrection of His own Son.

And His Son is coming back to reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. It’s no surprise where He will return and where He will reign – in Jerusalem. …

We can only understand Him through His revelation.

I don’t know exactly what date He will be coming back.

I’m not sure exactly when He is going to call out His children.

But I do know it’s near.

I know it’s near because Israel has been rebirthed as a nation – a prerequisite that simply wasn’t in place until 63 years ago.

The Bible predicts all kind of turbulence and chaos surrounding Israel in the latter days. It will nearly be destroyed. But Israel’s long-awaited Messiah will save it. He will destroy Israel’s enemies. He will reign for 1,000 years.

With friends like this, Israel doesn’t need enemies.

(h/t: Shiplord Kirel.)

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248 comments
1 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:07:59pm

I still have a bounty for the person that brings me his mustache.

2 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:08:21pm

Where to begin.

How about with the comments:

samsson1950 (signed in using Yahoo)
Go to You Tube. Type in: OBAMA'S SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER TIED TO AN ALIAS HARRISON J. BOUNEL 05/18/11. If this is true then Obama and Michelle are guilty of multiple felonies including mortgage fraud, tax fraud, and identity theft. This info is beyond mind boggling!! Down load it before it gets scrubbed because it will mean the end of this marxist bi-sexual muslim beast unconstitutionally occupying the WH!!

It is so difficult to out-nutter Farah, one has to admire even the attempt.

3 Kronocide  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:08:53pm

But to suggest that AGW increases the amount and intensity of tornadoes, blasphemy.

4 Targetpractice  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:09:46pm

re: #3 BigPapa

But to suggest that AGW increases the amount and intensity of tornadoes, blasphemy.

How anti-business of you! Frakin' commie!

///

5 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:11:18pm

re: #3 BigPapa

But to suggest that AGW increases the amount and intensity of tornadoes, blasphemy.

Especially when you know the weather is controlled by that HAARP machine thingy in Alaska.
/

6 nines09  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:12:41pm

Makes perfect sense to me. Everything he says makes perfect sense to me. I am in mental institution heavily medicated but I know the truth when I eat it.

7 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:14:44pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

Dotcha just kinda hope you get into a conversation with a person like that at a bar sometime? I do.

8 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:15:36pm

Jews know that Christianity is essentially BS (and deep down inside, I think that evangelicals know this), which means that "perfection" literally translates into annihilation.

9 blueraven  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:17:27pm

Wait, weren't the Alabama tornadoes before Obama's Middle East speech? So what caused those tornadoes?

What a freakin nutjob!

10 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:18:26pm

re: #9 blueraven
Hot air meeting with cold air.

11 Charleston Chew  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:19:08pm

So in conclusion, when natural disasters strike blue states it's because they voted Democrat, and when natural disasters strike red states, it's because blue states voted Democrat.

12 blueraven  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:19:14pm

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

Hot air meeting with cold air.

Liar!

/

13 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:19:35pm

Decades of scientific evidence? Total bullshit.

Magical deity of hatred and vengeance? Completely true, of course. Why, I have a book that says so.
/

14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:20:40pm

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

Hot air meeting with cold air.

Okay, but on the subject of magnets...

15 CarleeCork  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:21:00pm

Another religious nut....FUCK EM ALL.

Oh, and have a wonderful holiday weekend!

16 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:22:13pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth
Magnets... opposites attract. :)

17 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:22:24pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

Bi-sexual?

18 Opal  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:22:27pm

You'd think that if God was mad at Obama, He'd have made sure that the tornadoes He sent went predominantly to states that Obama won in 2008. It would be a more direct message than sending them to states that the opposition won. Just sayin'. If God was that political and all, He'd go after Obama's likely supporters and blow down their houses.

19 Opal  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:23:23pm

re: #11 Charleston Chew

Exactly!

20 the yankee  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:23:34pm

Not sure if I am qouting this right but isn't it the 12th commandment "thou shell never attack another republican".

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:06pm

re: #16 PhillyPretzel

Magnets... opposites attract. :)

But... how do they work?
/and you better not be a scientist.

22 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:14pm

re: #20 the yankee
Folks have not been paying attention to that rule.

23 Targetpractice  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:23pm

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Decades of scientific evidence? Total bullshit.

Magical deity of hatred and vengeance? Completely true, of course. Why, I have a book that says so.
/

Yeah, why listen to the people who've spent decades of their lives researching such things, using state-of-the-art technologies, and can provide proof of their theories?

I got a 2000+ yr old book here, compiled by committee, that says everything that happens is due to the unknowable plan of an omniscient, omnipotent guy in the sky. That sounds legit to me.

///

24 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:25:51pm

re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth

Bi-sexual?

I know. Did I miss an outrageous outrage somewhere?

25 lawhawk  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:26:18pm

With friends like this, Israel doesn’t need enemies.

Amen.

26 Targetpractice  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:26:19pm

re: #20 the yankee

Not sure if I am qouting this right but isn't it the 12th commandment "thou shell never attack another republican".

You're thinking of Reagan's unwritten 11th Commandment, namely "Thou Shalt Not Speak Poorly Of A Fellow Republican."

27 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:26:35pm

Talk about malignant narcissism… good grief!

28 Charleston Chew  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:26:51pm

A bit off topic but I have to say that my pet peeve is people who thank God for saving their lives in a disaster. Mind you, nothing wrong with saying it in the heat of the moment, because if you just rode out a tornado or hurricane you're allowed a few hours of freak out, but if you have some time to think about it, you should realize that saying God saved you implies that you were somehow more worthy of being saved than all the people killed.

For some reason, no one ever follows "God saved my life today," with, "It's a shame he went and killed all those other nice people. What a douche."

29 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:27:08pm

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

I still have a bounty for the person that brings me his mustache.

God's angry at Farah, so he gave him shit for brains and a push-broom for a mustache.

30 the yankee  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:27:35pm

The thing is that Obama's hair is cut so close that if he did have the mark of the beast we would be able to see it right?

31 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:27:45pm

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth
These are the type of magnets I am familiar with. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

32 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:27:51pm

re: #18 Opal

You'd think that if God was mad at Obama, He'd have made sure that the tornadoes He sent went predominantly to states that Obama won in 2008. It would be a more direct message than sending them to states that the opposition won. Just sayin'. If God was that political and all, He'd go after Obama's likely supporters and blow down their houses.

We had a couple of tornadoes here in northern Cali recently. Small ones. But I think that had more to do with how we voted on gay marriage.

33 the yankee  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:28:30pm

re: #26 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You're thinking of Reagan's unwritten 11th Commandment, namely "Thou Shalt Not Speak Poorly Of A Fellow Republican."

Yea my point is, is that a republican needs to speak poorly of this guy.

34 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:29:21pm

re: #33 the yankee

Yea my point is, is that a republican needs to speak poorly of this guy.

They dare not, it would cost them the next primary.

35 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:29:29pm

re: #20 the yankee

Not sure if I am qouting this right but isn't it the 12th commandment "thou shell never attack another republican".

That's the eleventh commandment, actually.

I made up a twelfth one a while back, but I forgoted it.

36 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:29:33pm

I really, really, really can't wait for the next WND Cruise!!! I am so there!!
/

37 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:30:18pm

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

That's the eleventh commandment, actually.

I made up a twelfth one a while back, but I forgoted it.

Thou shall not drink?
/

38 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:30:27pm

It's interesting that Farah thinks Jesus will rule Jerusalem for "1000 years."

Then what?

39 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:31:36pm

re: #38 Charles

It's interesting that Farah thinks Jesus will rule Jerusalem for "1000 years."

Then what?

We give him back his deposit as long as nothing is broken.

40 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:32:00pm

re: #22 PhillyPretzel

Folks have not been paying attention to that rule.

If the GOP would pull it's collective head out of it's ass, I wouldn't have to ignore that rule.

41 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:32:33pm

re: #38 Charles

It's interesting that Farah thinks Jesus will rule Jerusalem for "1000 years."

Then what?

[Link: www.creation-science-prophecy.com...]

42 blueraven  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:32:39pm

re: #38 Charles

It's interesting that Farah thinks Jesus will rule Jerusalem for "1000 years."

Then what?

The ONE will return for the great battle.

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:32:46pm

re: #37 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thou shall not drink?
/

Now your speaking blasphemy!

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:33:04pm

re: #3 BigPapa

But to suggest that AGW increases the amount and intensity of tornadoes, blasphemy.

Sins agains the environment have no consequences. But sins involving voting for Democrats--now THOSE have consequences.

//Get it straight!

45 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:33:31pm

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

I still have a bounty for the person that brings me his mustache.

what?
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46 Targetpractice  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:33:35pm

re: #33 the yankee

Yea my point is, is that a republican needs to speak poorly of this guy.

Never happen, the GOP made its bed back in '80, when The Gipper welcomed the fundies into the fold to bolster party numbers. Since then, any Republican that speaks unkindly of the Christian faith or those who claim to know the mind of God have generally not gone far...unless the subject in question is a black preacher who's been heard to proclaim "God Damn America."

47 Kronocide  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:33:43pm

Was Jesus a capitalist?

He was a carpenter, not a general contractor or developer. Just sayin.

48 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:34:11pm
Koenig points out that nine of the 10 costliest insurance events in U.S. history followed dramatic calls by U.S. officials for Israel to make land concessions in bids for peace with its neighbors.

[...]

In God's economy, there is Israel and then there are the other nations

[...]

There's a business lesson in here somewhere.

49 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:34:20pm

re: #41 000G

[Link: www.creation-science-prophecy.com...]

That link needs more colors.
/

50 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:34:20pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

Sins agains the environment have no consequences. But sins involving voting for Democrats--now THOSE have consequences.

//Get it straight!

I just read your email regarding someone's inherent dishonesty.

I could so hug tackle you right now. In lieu of that, I'll get you a drink instead.

51 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:34:51pm

re: #49 Cannadian Club Akbar

That link needs more colors.
/

The colors help you learn better with more fun!
/

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:35:02pm

re: #11 Charleston Chew

So in conclusion, when natural disasters strike blue states it's because they voted Democrat, and when natural disasters strike red states, it's because blue states voted Democrat.

Yes. Also, I have it on good authority from some crazy man on the Internet some years ago that Katrina was caused by Condi Rice pressing the Israeli about a settlement freeze.

(This gentleman seemed to thing that Condi was FROM LA, which added to the general confusion.)

53 Targetpractice  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:35:28pm

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

That's the eleventh commandment, actually.

I made up a twelfth one a while back, but I forgoted it.

"Thou Shalt Not Marry A Sick Wife."

Oh wait, sorry, that's Newt's commandment.

/

54 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:35:45pm

re: #41 000G

[Link: www.creation-science-prophecy.com...]

Aieee!

55 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:36:32pm

re: #46 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Never happen, the GOP made its bed back in '80, when The Gipper welcomed the fundies into the fold to bolster party numbers. Since then, any Republican that speaks unkindly of the Christian faith or those who claim to know the mind of God have generally not gone far...unless the subject in question is a black preacher who's been heard to proclaim "God Damn America."


Problem was that Reagan pretty much abandoned the religious right and ignored their agenda as soon as Nancy's astrologer told her the time was right.

Since then, they have been quietly insinuatin their people into the party, as well as into all levels of government and administration to make sure that will not happen again.

And it will not, becuae they have taken over the GOP and are now driving its agenda, and they are too powerful for anyone to dare to speak out against them, even when they rant and rave.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:37:30pm

re: #50 eclectic infidel

I just read your email regarding someone's inherent dishonesty.

I could so hug tackle you right now. In lieu of that, I'll get you a drink instead.

I'll take it.

57 Kronocide  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:37:32pm

1000 Year Millenium?

Is that like a Ten Year Decade cubed?

58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:37:42pm

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

These are the type of magnets I am familiar with. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

AAAHHH! Science!

/run away, run away

59 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:37:43pm

re: #49 Cannadian Club Akbar

That link needs more colors.
/


scrolling through it is like the watching backdrop at an old Jeffeson Airplane concert...

60 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:38:03pm

re: #54 Charles

Aieee!

It was the first result when I googled for jesus 2nd coming 1000 years.

I'm not a Christian, but I believe the general theory is that he rules for 1000 years after winning against Satan in the Apocalypse, and spends that time on judging mankind. After these 1000 years, he is done, and the righteous can rest in eternity with G'd while the sinners all die forever in hell.

61 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:38:42pm

re: #55 ralphieboy
They really came into their own in February 2008. Right after William F Buckley Jr died.

62 Charleston Chew  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:39:00pm

re: #38 Charles

It's interesting that Farah thinks Jesus will rule Jerusalem for "1000 years."

Then what?

Well, 1/6th the age of the universe is a pretty long time.

63 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:40:08pm

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes. Also, I have it on good authority from some crazy man on the Internet some years ago that Katrina was caused by Condi Rice pressing the Israeli about a settlement freeze.

(This gentleman seemed to thing that Condi was FROM LA, which added to the general confusion.)

Farah's political crazy is ecumenical. He blames Bush in the above article for bringing God's wrath in the form of Katrina for "forcing Israel's hand". I guess because in the bizarro universe, the poor people in the gulf states had something to do with the Gaza withdrawal. Maybe we'll get that explanation in the next Farah prophesy.

64 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:41:15pm

re: #61 PhillyPretzel

They really came into their own in February 2008. Right after William F Buckley Jr died.

They made it clear that they would not support McCain's nomination unless he accepted their choice of VP candidate, and we see how that turned out...

65 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:42:34pm

re: #63 marjoriemoon

Farah's political crazy is ecumenical. He blames Bush in the above article for bringing God's wrath in the form of Katrina for "forcing Israel's hand". I guess because in the bizarro universe, the poor people in the gulf states had something to do with the Gaza withdrawal. Maybe we'll get that explanation in the next Farah prophesy.

And what about the earthquakes in Japan? They aren't even Christians there!

Oh, wait. I guess I answered my own question.

66 Charleston Chew  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:42:36pm

re: #46 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

unless the subject in question is a black preacher who's been heard to proclaim "God Damn America."

Or a preacher who quotes Matthew 19:21 - "Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go [and] sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come [and] follow me."

Damn communist hippie!

67 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:43:16pm

Once again, we've seen the U.S. hit with a series of deadly superstorms following Barack Obama's pledge to return Israel to pre-1967 borders.

Just days after Obama insisted Israel must give up lands it won through military victory with its enemies, some 200 people were killed by a tornado in Joplin, Mo.

There's a pattern here.

Yep! A black President selling out Israel always results in death by natural causes.
//

68 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:43:35pm

Basically, the fundi's thought process goes like this:

Something horrible has happened.

G'd let it happen or made it happen but at least did not prevent it.

So it's still the best of all possible worlds, the one G'd made and thus there must be some good coming from this horrible thing.

Probably a lesson.

Probably a lesson mankind needed to be taught now because mankind was doing something bad now.

Take a right turn at Albuquerque.

Obama is the anti-christ!

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:45:12pm

re: #41 000G

"When Jesus comes to pick up His righteous people at His Second Coming, which is at the beginning of the 1000 years, all the wicked people who are alive at that time will be killed by the brightness of His coming. So, during the thousand years following the second coming, there will be no one left alive on the earth. "

Well, isn't that just lovely.

70 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:46:16pm

re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth

I guess all the cows and chickens can breathe a sigh of relief.

71 Tigger2005  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:47:40pm

Notice how Farah carefully distinguishes his lunacy from that other guy's lunacy by emphasizing he doesn't know exactly when all this shit is supposed to go down. That's the "proper" Christian perspective...believe everything Harold Camping does, just don't put a date on it. Then denounce Camping as a charlatan.

72 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:49:04pm

Wowzers. Have y'all read the comments following the Stache's kooky konspiracy? If this is how Real Americans think, you can have my citizenship.

73 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:51:01pm

re: #68 000G

There doesn't even have to be a rhyme or a reason. We're the deity's personal little ant farm. He made us, so He can kill us whenever He likes. Even if it's just for fun.

74 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:51:02pm

OT-some stoopid kid just wrecked his bike while riding in a straight line on bumpy asphalt. I see this a God's way of making me smile.

75 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:51:36pm

re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, isn't that just lovely.

The indispensable apocalyptic visions are one of the two main things why I just cannot buy into Christianity, personally. I've always been more fond of Adorno:

The only philosophy which would still be accountable in the face of despair, would be the attempt to consider all things, as they would be portrayed from the standpoint of redemption. Cognition has no other light than that which shines from redemption out upon the world; all else exhausts itself in post-construction and remains a piece of technics. Perspectives must be produced which set the world beside itself, alienated from itself, revealing its cracks and fissures, as needy and distorted as it will one day lay there in the messianic light. To win such perspectives without caprice or violence, wholly by the feel for objects, this alone is what thinking is all about. I

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:51:36pm

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

a=as, pimf.

77 RadicalModerate  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:52:46pm

Crazy heat in Texas today. Dallas area is pushing 100 degrees, and about a hundred miles to the west in Abilene, it's currently 107.

78 God of Binders with Women  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:52:48pm

Here's some good ones...

1.) John Callina · Top Commenter · South Paris, Maine
When I hear the toot(trumpet)i am going to scoot.I am ready and watching for He will come like a thief in the night.BE READY TO MEET HIM.

2.) Terry Blackwood · University of Memphis
I believe there is a direct correlation between Obama's insistance that Israel return to its 1967 borders and the violent tornadoes we are experiencing. NEVER threaten Israel! Obama is challenging God and His will for Israel and WE will suffer because of his arrogance in the face of God in demanding Israel be divided into indefensible borders.

3.) Petty Gary
Our Church did a skit in the get to know our church class. It was; what will you do when (theY) come to take your bible? Will you give up or not give up Gods Word? I choose to hang on until the end. Now, I know to keep reading His Word to stay in His Ways so that should they come to take His Word from us; they can't take it from our minds and when we need a special scripture; His Holy Spirit will call to rememberance the verses we need/ not man.

Word salad anyone?

79 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:54:06pm

re: #71 Tigger2005

Notice how Farah carefully distinguishes his lunacy from that other guy's lunacy by emphasizing he doesn't know exactly when all this shit is supposed to go down. That's the "proper" Christian perspective...believe everything Harold Camping does, just don't put a date on it. Then denounce Camping as a charlatan.

TL,DR

80 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:55:46pm

re: #79 Slumbering Behemoth

TL,DR

That's priceless.

81 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:56:30pm

re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, isn't that just lovely.

"When Jesus comes to pick up His righteous people at His Second Coming, which is at the beginning of the 1000 years, all the wicked people who are alive at that time will be killed by the brightness of His coming. So, during the thousand years following the second coming, there will be no one left alive on the earth. "

I wear UV protective sunglasses.

The brightness of his coming ain't going to do shit to me.

82 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:57:47pm

re: #81 b_sharp
I love my Maui Jims. I have the temple screws replaced and they work better than ever. :)

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:57:58pm

re: #81 b_sharp

I wear UV protective sunglasses.

The brightness of his coming ain't going to do shit to me.

Sporty!!

84 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:58:06pm

re: #78 Kid A

Here's some good ones...

1.) John Callina · Top Commenter · South Paris, Maine
When I hear the toot(trumpet)i am going to scoot.I am ready and watching for He will come like a thief in the night.BE READY TO MEET HIM.

2.) Terry Blackwood · University of Memphis
I believe there is a direct correlation between Obama's insistance that Israel return to its 1967 borders and the violent tornadoes we are experiencing. NEVER threaten Israel! Obama is challenging God and His will for Israel and WE will suffer because of his arrogance in the face of God in demanding Israel be divided into indefensible borders.

3.) Petty Gary
Our Church did a skit in the get to know our church class. It was; what will you do when (theY) come to take your bible? Will you give up or not give up Gods Word? I choose to hang on until the end. Now, I know to keep reading His Word to stay in His Ways so that should they come to take His Word from us; they can't take it from our minds and when we need a special scripture; His Holy Spirit will call to rememberance the verses we need/ not man.

Word salad anyone?

No thanks, it gives me gas, which is a pain I can do without.

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 1:58:52pm

Okay then, Farah, you stupid fuck.

Where are all the GAWT DAMNED TORNADOES IN PALESTINE?!?!

Yeah, that's what I thought.

86 William of Orange  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:00:00pm

What an unbelievable asshole!

I think there's an opening if Fred Phelps kicks the bucket at the Westboro Baptist Cult.

87 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:00:51pm

re: #82 PhillyPretzel

I love my Maui Jims. I have the temple screws replaced and they work better than ever. :)

Instead of screwing them into your temple, you might try glasses with arms. Less painful.

88 Sionainn  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:01:17pm

re: #54 Charles

Aieee!

I'm confused. So, the righteous will be raptured off the face of the earth until all the wicked are killed at some point and then raptured will come back to earth? First I've heard of that one.

89 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:02:27pm

re: #88 Sionainn

I'm confused. So, the righteous will be raptured off the face of the earth until all the wicked are killed at some point and then raptured will come back to earth? First I've heard of that one.

Some one has to clean up the blood. Sheesh.
/

90 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:02:50pm

re: #87 b_sharp
The new screws make the arms work better.

91 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:03:42pm

there is also an opening for him here:

www.landoverbaptist.org

92 BongCrodny  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:05:45pm
The Bible predicts all kind of turbulence and chaos surrounding Israel in the latter days. It will nearly be destroyed. But Israel’s long-awaited Messiah will save it. He will destroy Israel’s enemies. He will reign for 1,000 years.


...And they lived happily ever after.

93 ibob  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:05:55pm

re: #78 Kid A

About #2. God doesn't seem to do much to the Arab countries when they threaten Israel. Only the US. I have not seen any recent news reports of tornadoes in the Middle East.

94 William of Orange  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:06:08pm

re: #88 Sionainn

I'm confused. So, the righteous will be raptured off the face of the earth until all the wicked are killed at some point and then raptured will come back to earth? First I've heard of that one.

I God is president of Fed-Ex. Delivering everywhere.

95 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:07:29pm

re: #90 PhillyPretzel

The new screws make the arms work better.

Way to kill an admittedly crappy joke.

96 BongCrodny  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:13:16pm

re: #60 000G

It was the first result when I googled for jesus 2nd coming 1000 years.

I'm not a Christian, but I believe the general theory is that he rules for 1000 years after winning against Satan in the Apocalypse, and spends that time on judging mankind. After these 1000 years, he is done, and the righteous can rest in eternity with G'd while the sinners all die forever in hell.


Why would it take any reasonably talented omnipotent being 1,000 years to judge mankind?

97 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:13:23pm

re: #88 Sionainn

I'm confused. So, the righteous will be raptured off the face of the earth until all the wicked are killed at some point and then raptured will come back to earth? First I've heard of that one.

My guess? This may be a ripoff of Jewish thought that says the righteous will be reincarnated from the World to Come after there is peace on earth (minus the rapture scenario).

98 drool  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:14:35pm

Sounds more like God is angry at the Bible Belt. God even killed a little old lady worshiping at a Baptist church in Joplin.

99 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:15:53pm

re: #90 PhillyPretzel

The new screws make the arms work better.

Skip the arms and the temples.

Image: pierced%20glasses.jpg

100 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:17:52pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

pierce-nez?

101 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:17:53pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

OUCH

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:18:46pm

re: #96 BongCrodny

Why would it take any reasonably talented omnipotent being 1,000 years to judge mankind?

He's gotta find a starship first.

104 SpaceJesus  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:19:51pm

These people see suffering and conflict in the Middle East as a sign of a good thing?

105 PhillyPretzel  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:20:02pm

re: #103 wrenchwench
awww. They are cute.

106 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:20:25pm

re: #104 SpaceJesus

These people see suffering and conflict in the Middle East as a sign of a good thing?

Also, Oklahoma.

107 William of Orange  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:20:35pm

re: #91 ralphieboy

there is also an opening for him here:

www.landoverbaptist.org

Hahaha!!! I love the way Cafepress punked that site with their t-shirts!

108 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:20:41pm

The rise of dispensationalism, btw, corresponds with the rise of anti-evolution and creationism movement. Both started in the late 19th century but didn't pick up steam until the 20th century, and both flowered here in the US (and in a lesser extent in the rest of the Anglosphere.)

109 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:20:51pm

re: #104 SpaceJesus

These people see suffering and conflict in the Middle East as a sign of a good thing?


Yes, because it brings us closer to the Kingdom of God

111 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:22:15pm

re: #96 BongCrodny

Why would it take any reasonably talented omnipotent being 1,000 years to judge mankind?

He/She/it is a talented omniprocrastinator.

112 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:22:27pm

re: #41 000G

[Link: www.creation-science-prophecy.com...]

I love the patented mentalcase-on-a-mission graphics/typesetting. I think we should call it the 'psychodelic style'.

113 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:22:42pm

re: #110 Slumbering Behemoth

Image: end-of-the-world-prediction-awkward-billboard.jpg

Hold on, I'm looking up 'dispensationalism'.

114 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:23:47pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

Skip the arms and the temples.

Image: pierced%20glasses.jpg

Wouldn't it be easier to embed magnets?

115 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:24:30pm

re: #114 b_sharp

Wouldn't it be easier to embed magnets?

I don't know, how do they work?

116 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:24:46pm

And just in time, from today's news:

Homeschooling conference brings lessons home

[...]

While the event was directed at parents who choose to home school, Armstrong said that others can benefit from the resources and topics offered.

"Every parent has a vested interest in their child's education, whether helping with homework or summer enrichment," she said.

Chas. and Patti Morse, directors of events for the Dallas-based Institute for Creation Research had a booth at the conference, talking to attendees about the idea of creationism.

"You have to go by faith," Patti Morse said. "We believe God designed the world. Moms who are Christians can teach science from a Christian perspective."

"Science is present tense," said Chas. Morse. "Creation or evolution can't be replicated in laboratories now. With evolution, there were no eyewitnesses. If you are a believer, a Christian, you know God was the one eyewitness. All I have is just the result."

"Most homeschoolers are Christians," Patti Morse said, "and the majority of Christians believe in Creationism."

Aaron and Cayla Woods attended the conference, in preparation to home school their children, ages 4, 2, and one due in August.

"From reading the Word of God, we felt a strong conviction to be the disciples and teacher of our children," said Aaron Woods. "We felt like that was our responsibility, not someone else's."


[...]

Bet you that 90% of them agree with Farah, and the other 10% agree with Gary North and are amillenialist reconstructionists.

117 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:25:43pm

Am I going to hell for watching The Logo Channel? (I love Absolutely Fabulous reruns.)

118 freetoken  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:26:28pm

By "agree with Farah" I mean they are dispensationalists.

119 celticdragon  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:27:47pm

re: #116 freetoken

"Science is present tense," said Chas. Morse. "Creation or evolution can't be replicated in laboratories now. With evolution, there were no eyewitnesses. If you are a believer, a Christian, you know God was the one eyewitness. All I have is just the result."

I know I am going to have to shoot some of this shit down when I teach during grad school. Yikes.

120 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:30:00pm

re: #104 SpaceJesus

These people see suffering and conflict in the Middle East as a sign of a good thing?

Of course! It's God's way of expressing his love for his creation. We can only hope that every planet has a conflict-ravaged middle east/

121 allegro  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:30:27pm

re: #119 celticdragon

I know I am going to have to shoot some of this shit down when I teach during grad school. Yikes.

I spent 24 years teaching biology at a major university in Texas. You have NO idea what you're about to get into! LOL

One recommendation for your sanity and to save time... know what they're going to throw at you. It's always the same 3 or 4 things. Have a good answer ready then shoo them away like the little gnats they are.

122 SpaceJesus  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:30:59pm

re: #120 Jimmah

Of course! It's God's way of expressing his love for his creation. We can only hope that every planet has a conflict-ravaged middle east/

there is very little difference then, between evangelicals and al qaeda

123 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:32:40pm

re: #121 allegro

I spent 24 years teaching biology at a major university in Texas. You have NO idea what you're about to get into! LOL

One recommendation for your sanity and to save time... know what they're going to throw at you. It's always the same 3 or 4 things. Have a good answer ready then shoo them away like the little gnats they are.

If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?

I don't see any cats giving birth to dogs.

WHERE ARE THE CROCODUCKS???

124 zora  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:32:55pm

re: #107 William of Orange

the whole site is a parody, i believe.

125 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:33:43pm
This article is a beautiful example of the bizarre Christianist mindset that many mistake as “support for Israel.” Farah and his fellow fundamentalists only “support” Israel because it’s their personal Armageddon Machine. Jews are just placeholders to them; when Jesus returns, according to Farah’s fanatical theology, the Jews will be expelled and/or “perfected,” and Jerusalem will be the new center of Christian power, forever and ever, amen.

Channel 4 video with info on end-times nuts who not only believe this shit but are also striving to bring it about:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

126 allegro  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:33:50pm

re: #123 b_sharp

If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?

I don't see any cats giving birth to dogs.

WHERE ARE THE CROCODUCKS???

That's two of them. (Never had one ask about crocoducks... bummer!)

127 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:34:56pm

re: #126 allegro

That's two of them. (Never had one ask about crocoducks... bummer!)

Just a cute way of saying there are no transitionals.

128 allegro  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:35:38pm

re: #127 b_sharp

Just a cute way of saying there are no transitionals.

Duck billed playpus. Next?

129 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:36:31pm

re: #5 Cannadian Club Akbar

Especially when you know the weather is controlled by that HAARP machine thingy in Alaska.
/

THEN IT WAS SARAH PALIN WHO SENT THE TORNADOES!!1 IT WAS A SIGN THAT SHE IS ANGRY AND WE MAKE HER PRESIDENT TO APPEASE HER!!!11

130 Irenicum  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:36:56pm

I'm an evangelical Christian, and this Farah is batshit crazy. That whole "theology" is something completely foreign to the vast history of Christianity. What he's selling is premillenial dispensationalism, and that is most certainly NOT orthodox Christianity.

131 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:37:17pm

re: #123 b_sharp

If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?

I don't see any cats giving birth to dogs.

WHERE ARE THE CROCODUCKS???

Image: 7734c58e-8b2e-464f-9331-4d57aff78b79.jpg

132 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:37:34pm

re: #122 SpaceJesus

there is very little difference then, between Farah's sort of evangelicals and al qaeda

focus narrowed for accuracy

133 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:38:52pm

re: #126 allegro

That's two of them. (Never had one ask about crocoducks... bummer!)

All I ever wanted was flying cars.

134 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:38:54pm

re: #128 allegro

Duck billed playpus. Next?

The Paluxy footprints show man walked with dinosaurs.

135 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:40:28pm

re: #122 SpaceJesus

there is very little difference then, between evangelicals and al qaeda

Yep. Curious Lurker did a nifty graphic a while back showing all the points of correspondence in the ideologies/social attitudes etc of christian and muslim fundies.

I also remember from that "Jesus Camp" film that obnoxious 'teacher' who was encouraging the kids to emulate the attitudes of middle eastern muslim children who grow up wanting to die for their religion.

136 allegro  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:40:42pm

re: #134 b_sharp

The Paluxy footprints show man walked with dinosaurs.

Not for long. CHOMP!

137 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:41:26pm

re: #127 b_sharp

Just a cute way of saying there are no transitionals.

I'd like to frog-march an anti-evolution loon through Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History and show them the exhibits with transitional fossils on display (currently three: Evolving Planet and two visiting exhibits: one on horses and the other one from New Zealand on whales). But I'd need a bomb suit to avoid being injured by the head explosion.

138 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:41:44pm

re: #136 allegro

Not for long. CHOMP!

Before the fall, all dinos were vegetablearians.

139 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:42:20pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I'd like to frog-march an anti-evolution loon through Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History and show them the exhibits with transitional fossils on display (currently three: Evolving Planet and two visiting exhibits: one on horses and the other one from New Zealand on whales). But I'd need a bomb suit to avoid being injured by the head explosion.

THEY"RE ALL FAKE!!1!

140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:44:14pm

re: #139 b_sharp

THEY"RE ALL FAKE!!1!

Planted by our lord to test our faith. 'Cuz he's Loki.

141 [deleted]  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:45:08pm
142 Charleston Chew  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:45:10pm

re: #116 freetoken

"Science is present tense," said Chas. Morse. "Creation or evolution can't be replicated in laboratories now. With evolution, there were no eyewitnesses. If you are a believer, a Christian, you know God was the one eyewitness. All I have is just the result."

Someone needs to tell them that evolution is present tense, also. That's why you have to get a flu shot every year.

Also, the use of the term "research" in the name Institute for Creation Research seems like a deliberate smoke screen, so they can seem 'sciency".

143 Charleston Chew  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:47:05pm

re: #119 celticdragon

I know I am going to have to shoot some of this shit down when I teach during grad school. Yikes.

Just wait to you run across someone with a BA from Liberty University

144 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:48:27pm

re: #142 Charleston Chew

Someone needs to tell them that evolution is present tense, also. That's why you have to get a flu shot every year.

Also, the use of the term "research" in the name Institute for Creation Research seems like a deliberate smoke screen, so they can seem 'sciency".

The dizzy buggers are all about spin.

145 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:49:21pm

re: #143 Charleston Chew

Just wait to you run across someone with a BA from Liberty University

Like Bachmann?
Hovind?
How about Oral Roberts U?

146 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:50:57pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

Planted by our lord to test our faith. 'Cuz he's Loki.

That really is how he rolls. He even planted thigh bones in whales, just to fuck with smart ass biologists.

147 Charleston Chew  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:52:11pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I'd like to frog-march an anti-evolution loon through Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History and show them the exhibits with transitional fossils on display (currently three: Evolving Planet and two visiting exhibits: one on horses and the other one from New Zealand on whales). But I'd need a bomb suit to avoid being injured by the head explosion.

You can't trust a CHICAGO natural history museum! OBAMA! AYERS! JEREMIAH WRIGHT! (Head explodes.)

148 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:54:23pm

re: #146 Jimmah

That really is how he rolls. He even planted thigh bones in whales, just to fuck with smart ass biologists.

The whale lineage is just about the best example of evolution out there. The hominid line is also impressive, but the creationists just categorize some of them as monkeys.

Same with avian.

149 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:55:44pm

re: #147 Charleston Chew

You can't trust a CHICAGO natural history museum! OBAMA! AYERS! JEREMIAH WRIGHT! (Head explodes.)

Heh.

People who run Chicago down for being 'evil' get short scrift from me. It's OK to go after things like crime and corruption, but the city itself is not evil and it has contributed far more than any small town you could name.

150 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:57:48pm

I kind of miss the arguments with dedicated creationists.

151 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:58:04pm

re: #146 Jimmah

That really is how he rolls. He even planted thigh bones in whales, just to fuck with smart ass biologists.

Hello, Jimmah. How's the weather across the pond?

152 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:58:34pm

re: #150 b_sharp

I kind of miss the arguments with dedicated creationists.

Yeah, verbally torturing then roasting trolls is funny.

153 windsagio  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:59:44pm

re: #150 b_sharp

A whole blog of people telling each other 'Yeah, you're right! Those bastards!' Is boring and a waste of time >

154 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 2:59:47pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, verbally torturing then roasting trolls is funny.

I spent just about 2 years at FreeRepublic because of the game.

155 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:01:00pm

re: #153 windsagio

A whole blog of people telling each other 'Yeah, you're right! Those bastards!' Is boring and a waste of time >

Maybe not a waste of time, learning can still happen, but boring it certainly can get.

156 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:01:10pm

Have you ever wondered exactly how much energy is represented by a single hydroelectric turbine?

Before and after.

2009 Sayano-Shushenskaya hydro accident

157 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:02:18pm

re: #153 windsagio

A whole blog of people telling each other 'Yeah, you're right! Those bastards!' Is boring and a waste of time >

That I agree with. That's a small part of why I defended avanti back then (the larger part was that he's a decent person who did not deserve to get hounded). I felt that conservatives needed to hear what liberals were saying from a liberal, if only to keep them honest. I still feel that way.

158 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:02:36pm

re: #116 freetoken

And just in time, from today's news:

Homeschooling conference brings lessons home

evolution can't be replicated in laboratories now

It can be replicated everywhere, including inadvertently in hospitals and deliberately in kennel clubs.

I will *never* be able to grasp why people can't understand evolution. Most people are quite familiar with seeing a person who bears a striking resemblance to one of their parents. One of those parents probably bore a striking resemblance to one of THEIR parents. But 4 or 5 generations down the line, the resemblance between Baby Jane and Great, Great, Great Grandma Victoria is usually negligible. This is as common an experience as taking a pee for most people. But they can't seem to make the leap and think about what these subtle but distinct changes over a handful of generations might produce in a hundred-thousand generations, spanning millions of years.

The accretion of small changes, for lots of reasons, over unimaginably long stretches of time. Why is this so hard?

That's not just a rhetorical question, by the way. I'm really curious why such a simple and elegant concept is still opposed with such hostility in the Internet age.

159 windsagio  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:02:48pm

re: #155 b_sharp

Not really that much learning either, imo (altho there can be some), it just becomes a reinforcing feedback loop.

160 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:03:38pm

re: #148 b_sharp

The whale lineage is just about the best example of evolution out there. The hominid line is also impressive, but the creationists just categorize some of them as monkeys.

Same with avian.

God made lots of different kinds of animal. Some of them didn't make it. Proves nothing. And all that nested hierarchies of genetic relatedness mararkey is just a classic test of faith. Easy when you have the brain slug of fundamentalist religion attached to your head.

Youtube Video
161 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:04:53pm

re: #150 b_sharp

I kind of miss the arguments with dedicated creationists.

Like picking at low hanging fruit, eh?
;)

162 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:06:16pm

Watch A Dreaming Kitten Get Sleep-Hugged By Her Mom

[Link: jezebel.com...]

Night folks:)

163 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:06:57pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

Have you ever wondered exactly how much energy is represented by a single hydroelectric turbine?

Before and after.

2009 Sayano-Shushenskaya hydro accident

Wow. I didn't know there were deaths attributable to hydroelectric power, other than those who died building dams. [And salmon genocide.]

The accident occurred on 17 August 2009 at 08:13 local time (00:13 GMT).[5] There was a loud bang from turbine 2. The turbine cover shot up and the 920-tonne (910 LT; 1,010 ST) rotor also shot out of its seat. ...

I'll bet that was a loud bang!

164 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:07:38pm

re: #158 negativ

It can be replicated everywhere, including inadvertently in hospitals and deliberately in kennel clubs.

I will *never* be able to grasp why people can't understand evolution. Most people are quite familiar with seeing a person who bears a striking resemblance to one of their parents. One of those parents probably bore a striking resemblance to one of THEIR parents. But 4 or 5 generations down the line, the resemblance between Baby Jane and Great, Great, Great Grandma Victoria is usually negligible. This is as common an experience as taking a pee for most people. But they can't seem to make the leap and think about what these subtle but distinct changes over a handful of generations might produce in a hundred-thousand generations, spanning millions of years.

The accretion of small changes, for lots of reasons, over unimaginably long stretches of time. Why is this so hard?

That's not just a rhetorical question, by the way. I'm really curious why such a simple and elegant concept is still opposed with such hostility in the Internet age.

Its the difference between micro and macro evolution. They except micro, adaptation within a species/genus/family (they're never specific), including canids and bacteria, but they reject macro, which they define as one species/genus/family changing into another. They expect macro to consist of only saltation events.

165 Dark_Falcon  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:07:47pm

BBL

166 Aye Pod  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:08:37pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

Hello, Jimmah. How's the weather across the pond?

Hi Df. Windy, cold and grey! Looks like it's going to be another scorcher of a Scottish summer:)

167 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:09:27pm

re: #161 Slumbering Behemoth

Like picking at low hanging fruit, eh?
;)

Blah!

I like the way it forced me to do research and back my words up with peer review research.
Something they know nothing about.

168 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:11:40pm

"Evolution is just a theory"

Indeed, it is. But it is a theory that is consistently supported by a broad range of irrefutable facts from all branches of science.

It is clear that these people are lacking a fundamental understanding of what science is and how it works. It is no wonder they reject any science that interferes with their dogmas.

169 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:13:21pm

re: #164 b_sharp

There is a percentage, I am sure, that don't even get that deep into it. They are simply anti-evolution because the alternative would mean accepting that they share a common ancestor with people of other races or skin colors.

170 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:15:55pm

re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth

There is a percentage, I am sure, that don't even get that deep into it. They are simply anti-evolution because the alternative would mean accepting that they share a common ancestor with people of other races or skin colors.

That is true. There are also some who deny anything that suggests an ancient age for the Earth.

171 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:16:33pm

"I ain't kin to no monkey."

172 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:18:07pm

And a basic lack of understanding of literature: as in the inability to differentiate between a science text, a work of history, a work of fiction and a collection of myths and statements of belief.

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:18:36pm

re: #168 ralphieboy

"Evolution is just a theory"

Indeed, it is. But it is a theory that is consistently supported by a broad range of irrefutable facts from all branches of science.

But nooo, it's just one grand conspiracy perpetrated by millions and millions of evil secularists who hate Jesus, over decades and decades.
/

174 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:20:10pm

re: #164 b_sharp

Its the difference between micro and macro evolution. They except micro, adaptation within a species/genus/family (they're never specific), including canids and bacteria, but they reject macro, which they define as one species/genus/family changing into another. They expect macro to consist of only saltation events.

I know. I know, I know, I know. I loathe the day I ever heard the word "macroevolution".

Luckily, some person(s) with a superhuman degree of patience (or at least mild Asperger's Syndrome) put this together:

[Link: www.talkorigins.org...]

175 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:20:44pm

re: #117 marjoriemoon

Am I going to hell for watching The Logo Channel? (I love Absolutely Fabulous reruns.)

according to THEM, yes. but you'll be in good company with close to all of humanity 'down there' too.

176 AK-47%  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:20:45pm

This would all just be sad and ludicrous if these people had not managed to take control of one of America's major political parties, not to mention a large number of school boards and local governments.

177 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:23:34pm

re: #174 negativ

I know. I know, I know, I know. I loathe the day I ever heard the word "macroevolution".

Luckily, some person(s) with a superhuman degree of patience (or at least mild Asperger's Syndrome) put this together:

[Link: www.talkorigins.org...]

John is (now) a philosopher of science. Speciation is his specialty. He's one of the smartest people I've been in contact with(, and comes up with some deadly puns.)

178 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:23:54pm

re: #176 ralphieboy

They're in it to win it. Those of us who are sane have to be as well.

179 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:24:19pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

Have you ever wondered exactly how much energy is represented by a single hydroelectric turbine?

Before and after.

2009 Sayano-Shushenskaya hydro accident

I just saw this at the end of that article:

See also

August curse

So I look at August curse:

The August curse is a perceived phenomenon in Russia, in which tragic events are felt to occur unusually often in the month of August. Many possible explanations have been presented for the phenomenon.

[...]

Some have also presented supernatural explanations for the August curse.

*Sigh* Even in atheist lands....

180 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:24:28pm

re: #171 b_sharp

"I ain't kin to no monkey."

If you listen close enough, these two are actually the same song, lyrics and all.

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
181 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:24:45pm

this is the earliest known vid of albusteve, just rediscovered...
so I thought I'd share

Youtube Video
182 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:24:50pm

re: #176 ralphieboy

This would all just be sad and ludicrous if these people had not managed to take control of one of America's major political parties, not to mention a large number of school boards and local governments.

It's also pretty uniquely American. I don't think Conservatives in Europe or Australia have embraced the anti-science ideology as much as Americans have. Maybe a bit with global warming but not nearly as bad.

183 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:26:56pm

re: #181 albusteve

this is the earliest known vid of albusteve, just rediscovered...
so I thought I'd share

[Video]

I was completely distracted from the video by the music. What is that?

184 goddamnedfrank  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:28:16pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

Wow. I didn't know there were deaths attributable to hydroelectric power, other than those who died building dams. [And salmon genocide.]

I'll bet that was a loud bang!

Bang just seems like such an inadequate, tiny little word, but I have no idea what to replace it with.

Here's a tighter pic of what's left of turbine #2 after the hole's been drained, with people to provide a better idea of scale.

185 austin_blue  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:28:34pm

re: #146 Jimmah

That really is how he rolls. He even planted thigh bones in whales, just to fuck with smart ass biologists.

Barca made Man U look like pikers, eh?

186 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:29:11pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

You might dig this. Kinda long, but pretty good. She goes into the the spread of creationism in other countries at one point.

187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:30:28pm

re: #181 albusteve

this is the earliest known vid of albusteve, just rediscovered...
so I thought I'd share

[Video]

My mom has a pic of me somewhere as an infant, holding a can of Coors.

Great parenting.

188 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:31:14pm

re: #186 Slumbering Behemoth

You might dig this. Kinda long, but pretty good. She goes into the the spread of creationism in other countries at one point.

Bookmarked for later viewing. I just started watching this: The Doomsday Code - video about the nuts who want to push Israel into Armageddon

189 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:31:57pm

re: #183 negativ

I was completely distracted from the video by the music. What is that?

don't know...sounds spaghetti western-ish

190 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:32:25pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

Gracias! I'll save that for later as well.

191 Michael McBacon  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:33:49pm

Praise Yahweh Ben Yahweh for bringing destruction upon America!!

192 ozbloke  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:35:43pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

It's also pretty uniquely American. I don't think Conservatives in Europe or Australia have embraced the anti-science ideology as much as Americans have. Maybe a bit with global warming but not nearly as bad.

Here in Oz they are certainly working on it.

Malcolm Turnbull (right wing) was the leader of the Liberal party, and stepped down over his parties position on AGW and the necessity for a carbon tax.

He has remained in the party, still trying to fight the insanity, personally I think he is facing a losing battle.

193 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:38:45pm

re: #184 goddamnedfrank

Bang just seems like such an inadequate, tiny little word, but I have no idea what to replace it with.

Here's a tighter pic of what's left of turbine #2 after the hole's been drained, with people to provide a better idea of scale.

Looks like a piece of CERN fell from the sky.

194 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:39:31pm

Better for the thread down stairs, but since everyone is here...

What's crazier than Bryan Fischer? His audience.

Youtube Video

I'm surprised he didn't mention the ADL.

195 b_sharp  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:39:33pm

BBL

Going to go see Thor with the grandkid.

196 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 3:42:21pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

Looks like a piece of CERN fell from the sky.

Freeman did it.

197 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:01:57pm

We have a brief break in the rain so I went out to check my frog eggs. When the sun comes out they warm up and you can see the little tadpoles occassionally wiggling inside their egg. Haven't seen any hatch yet but it should be soon.

198 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:04:37pm

A little bit harsh but still kinda funny....
The Whitest Kids U' Know - Pledge of Allegiance

Youtube Video
199 Velvet Elvis  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:06:14pm

Why is everyone making such a big deal out of tornados all of a sudden? We have them every year. It's called spring.

200 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:11:43pm

re: #197 Killgore Trout

We have a brief break in the rain so I went out to check my frog eggs. When the sun comes out they warm up and you can see the little tadpoles occassionally wiggling inside their egg. Haven't seen any hatch yet but it should be soon.

nice...it hasn't rained within 500mi of my in two years...I have not heard thunder in longer than that....5pm here and it's 95deg/8% humidity again

201 bratwurst  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:20:51pm

re: #199 Conservative Moonbat

Why is everyone making such a big deal out of tornados all of a sudden? We have them every year. It's called spring.

Um, look at what went down in Alabama and Joplin...believe me, that does NOT go down every spring.

202 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:21:30pm

re: #200 albusteve

nice...it hasn't rained within 500mi of my in two years...I have not heard thunder in longer than that...5pm here and it's 95deg/8% humidity again

I don't know why you people live down there. I did grad school in Phoenix, that was more than enough for me.

203 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:26:11pm

re: #198 Killgore Trout

Absolutely no resemblance to the way religion is passed down from one generation to the next, though. No, none at all.
///

204 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:28:19pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

I don't know why you people live down there. I did grad school in Phoenix, that was more than enough for me.

ABQ is a mile high at the river and goes up from there, so it's far more temperate than Phoenix...and we get a 30deg temperature drop every night...it's the relentless dry state that bugs me, but not enough to move

205 windsagio  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:30:58pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

Hah, I admit I've thought that on occasion, too >>

"how could somebody live in Tornado Alley/In Florida Mugginess/etc?" The coasts (esp the west coast) just have such spoilingly good climate.

Where Steve lives is a bit different tho', its dry and crazy, but there's nothing quite like it either, high desert is beautiful.

206 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:40:04pm

re: #202 Killgore Trout

I don't know why you people live down there. I did grad school in Phoenix, that was more than enough for me.

I almost feel like digging up a few posts of yours complaining about the rain.

Most of NM is nicer than Phoenix -- more like Flagstaff.

When we lived in the northwest, Mr. w would come down here to the southwest for a couple of weeks each year. Now, of course, he goes up there for a couple of weeks each year. And wants to move back. I know what would happen after that...

207 Velvet Elvis  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:40:38pm

re: #201 bratwurst

re: #201 bratwurst

Um, look at what went down in Alabama and Joplin...believe me, that does NOT go down every spring.

Every few years for sure. It just doesn't get as much major media attention. Tornados in the mid-south and mid-west are like earthquakes on the west coast. The constant threat is a fact of life. Small ones that rattle your china are common and ones that make a mess over a small area aren't infrequent.

They are just getting a lot more media attention this year.

208 bratwurst  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:41:53pm

re: #207 Conservative Moonbat

re: #201 bratwurst

Every few years for sure.

Move the goalposts much? You don't have multiple storms killing hundreds of people "every few years" either.

209 Velvet Elvis  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:46:48pm

re: #208 bratwurst

Move the goalposts much? You don't have multiple storms killing hundreds of people "every few years" either.

Yeah, I guess it's the human casualties and not the size of the storms that's setting this year apart. I can just remember footage of massive tornado destruction with fatalities on the local news every year since I was a kid. It just seems kinda weird that people in other parts of the country are just noticing now.

210 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:47:03pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

I almost feel like digging up a few posts of yours complaining about the rain.

Most of NM is nicer than Phoenix -- more like Flagstaff.

When we lived in the northwest, Mr. w would come down here to the southwest for a couple of weeks each year. Now, of course, he goes up there for a couple of weeks each year. And wants to move back. I know what would happen after that...

I love Tucson. It has such beauty with the mountains and desert. So unique! Sabino Canyon is a real treat.

211 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:49:40pm

re: #207 Conservative Moonbat

Looking at history, we have a far higher number of tornadoes than usual. Also unusual is the fact that several cities have been struck with varyin levels of damage. One in a year is unusual, 2 is nearly unheard of, and 7 means something is definitely the frick wrong.

re: #210 marjoriemoon

I've heard of some interesting proposals for South Arizona recently.

212 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:50:32pm

re: #206 wrenchwench

I almost feel like digging up a few posts of yours complaining about the rain.

Most of NM is nicer than Phoenix -- more like Flagstaff.

When we lived in the northwest, Mr. w would come down here to the southwest for a couple of weeks each year. Now, of course, he goes up there for a couple of weeks each year. And wants to move back. I know what would happen after that...

The rain and gloom has only started to wear on me the past two years. Maybe I'm finally burning out. Portland is fairly temperate but I'd like to eventually move somewhere a little warmer in the winter and a little cooler in the summer. My plans to move out to the coast are going to have to wait until housing prices come back some. We still have houses on our street in foreclosure.

213 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:52:07pm

re: #210 marjoriemoon

I've heard of some interesting proposals for South Arizona recently.

Eek! I'm afraid to ask!

214 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:53:22pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

The rain and gloom has only started to wear on me the past two years. Maybe I'm finally burning out. Portland is fairly temperate but I'd like to eventually move somewhere a little warmer in the winter and a little cooler in the summer. My plans to move out to the coast are going to have to wait until housing prices come back some. We still have houses on our street in foreclosure.

There are so many great towns on the coast. I'm not sure if I could make a living in any of them though. We contemplated Astoria for a while.

215 windsagio  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:53:43pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Housing market in Oregon is still especially bad, iirc.

Sounds like you wanna move down to the coast to Arcata or Crescent City, tho' ;)

216 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:53:47pm

re: #210 marjoriemoon

I love Tucson. It has such beauty with the mountains and desert. So unique! Sabino Canyon is a real treat.

there are neighborhoods here in ABQ, especially along the river, that are every bit as 'fine' as any I've seen anywhere...sprawling ranchitos and large homes, small farms and horse, right in the city limits...lush and shady, and water everywhere, in ponds and inside courtyards, waterfalls and fountains....but I don't live there, and the river is only about 2 mi from me....shade makes all the difference

217 windsagio  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:54:41pm

re: #214 wrenchwench

problem with Astoria, and the coast in general is the massive dearth of job opportunities. I've wanted to move to the San Juans for years, but no way to make money >>

218 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:54:52pm

re: #214 wrenchwench

There are so many great towns on the coast. I'm not sure if I could make a living in any of them though. We contemplated Astoria for a while.

who works?

219 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:55:36pm

re: #210 marjoriemoon

I love Tucson. It has such beauty with the mountains and desert. So unique! Sabino Canyon is a real treat.

Tucson is definitely not a year-round delight, however. They're starting to flee already.

220 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:56:24pm

re: #218 albusteve

who works?

Me damnit! It's part of my retirement plan.

221 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:56:32pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

Bookmarked for later viewing. I just started watching this: The Doomsday Code - video about the nuts who want to push Israel into Armageddon

Tony Robinson

If I were a black man living in Mississippi in the 1930s, I could write legendary songs about how sad it is that so few Americans are familiar with Black Adder.

Youtube Video

The songs would be studied by ethnomusicologists, and at some point some asshole akin to Bono or Kanye West or Dave Matthews would regurgitate a ridiculously sterile Mainstream White Person Version of one of my tunes, which would be played on college radio stations until as many people as possible were absolutely sick to death of it. They would host a pay-per-view "benefit concert", the proceeds of which would never be subject to public scrutiny. Then some teenage shit-wit like "Justin Bieber" or "Lady Gaga" would come along, and I would be relegated to obscurity once again & forevermore.

500 years in the future, some weird, outcast historian who accidentally discovered "Black Adder" would inadvertently stumble upon my songs, and none of his peers would accept his hypothesis that my songs had anything to do with the ancient episodic entertainment regimen he discovered. He would die penniless and alone. So it goes.

222 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:58:25pm

re: #220 wrenchwench

Me damnit! It's part of my retirement plan.

I've been out of the loop for almost three years now with my cool Leg Vanishing Disease....I've decided I'm retired at 58, but I can't wait to slam the volunteer scene again

223 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:58:55pm

re: #216 albusteve

there are neighborhoods here in ABQ, especially along the river, that are every bit as 'fine' as any I've seen anywhere...sprawling ranchitos and large homes, small farms and horse, right in the city limits...lush and shady, and water everywhere, in ponds and inside courtyards, waterfalls and fountains...but I don't live there, and the river is only about 2 mi from me...shade makes all the difference

Well I'm sub-tropical so pretty far from desert climates. Lush and humid for me.

224 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:59:32pm

re: #219 wrenchwench

Tucson is definitely not a year-round delight, however. They're starting to flee already.

The heat? It's pretty scorching. We don't have those temps.

225 wrenchwench  Sat, May 28, 2011 4:59:50pm

re: #222 albusteve

I've been out of the loop for almost three years now with my cool Leg Vanishing Disease...I've decided I'm retired at 58, but I can't wait to slam the volunteer scene again

It'll do you good. I look forward to reading about your Leg Acquisition Program.

226 albusteve  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:02:09pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

It'll do you good. I look forward to reading about your Leg Acquisition Program.

should be very soon, a few weeks at most I think...it's been about ten months since the Removal

227 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:10:19pm

re: #214 wrenchwench

There are so many great towns on the coast. I'm not sure if I could make a living in any of them though. We contemplated Astoria for a while.

I stopped at Astoria on a cruise ship. It was really fun. Many people went to wallmart or somewhere to buy stuff to ship home, they knew about the no sales tax thingy.

228 ProGunLiberal  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:12:16pm

To MajorieMoon:

Since the attempted killing of Giffords, at least 2 counties have movement now to pull a West Virginia.

229 Jaerik  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:15:49pm

If this guy's God punishes Obama the Sinner not by striking him down, but by raining terrifying death and senseless destruction down on a town of unrelated innocents, then He should not be honored with the dignity of a public forum.

230 reine.de.tout  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:49:22pm

re: #222 albusteve

I've been out of the loop for almost three years now with my cool Leg Vanishing Disease...I've decided I'm retired at 58, but I can't wait to slam the volunteer scene again

{Steve}
So good to see you back in form again.
Cool Leg Vanishing Disease, indeed.

231 theheat  Sat, May 28, 2011 5:51:39pm

I had my own name for these faux friends of Israel: Shalom Christians. A couple years ago, I noticed the proliferation of uber fundamentalists signing things with "Shalom." I thought, how freakin' odd is that?

These are the same people funneling money to various ministries to spread Bibles Across (whichever country - China, Russia, etc.) - the ones that can't communicate with other people without shoehorning some scripture in the conversation, or quoting how this passage from the Bible relates to (name whatever topic), etc. In other words, people whose lives revolve around scripture 24/7. The random capitalization, crazyfonts people.

But it began to dawn on me, with them dwelling in scripture (and reminding themselves which nouns looked better capitalized) every second of the day, these were also end times crazies. The ones who will, at the drop of a hat, remind you how benevolent and kind they are for forgiving Jews for killing Christ, because they're big hearted like that.

They don't hate Jews, mind you, they just want to make it clear they're conscience of forgiving them... forever. Like that time you borrowed the car and crunched the fender in the school parking lot when you were 16, and your parents remind you of that every time you ask to borrow their car when you fly in to visit, even when your 52 fucking years old. "Sure you can borrow the car. Just don't wreck it like that one time..."

So this co-opting of "Shalom!" makes perfect sense in their nonsensical world, because they're showing how pro everything-Israel they are... until Doomsday. Then those Jews they were kind and Christian enough to keep forgiving have served their purpose.

Meanwhile, they'll keep funneling money to pastors who want to kill gays, Bryan Fischer, Pat Robertson, and all their other "pro Israel" fundie Christian friends.

232 ozbloke  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:04:20pm

re: #231 theheat

I had my own name for these faux friends of Israel: Shalom Christians. A couple years ago, I noticed the proliferation of uber fundamentalists signing things with "Shalom." I thought, how freakin' odd is that?

These are the same people funneling money to various ministries to spread Bibles Across (whichever country - China, Russia, etc.) - the ones that can't communicate with other people without shoehorning some scripture in the conversation, or quoting how this passage from the Bible relates to (name whatever topic), etc. In other words, people whose lives revolve around scripture 24/7. The random capitalization, crazyfonts people.

But it began to dawn on me, with them dwelling in scripture (and reminding themselves which nouns looked better capitalized) every second of the day, these were also end times crazies. The ones who will, at the drop of a hat, remind you how benevolent and kind they are for forgiving Jews for killing Christ, because they're big hearted like that.

They don't hate Jews, mind you, they just want to make it clear they're conscience of forgiving them... forever. Like that time you borrowed the car and crunched the fender in the school parking lot when you were 16, and your parents remind you of that every time you ask to borrow their car when you fly in to visit, even when your 52 fucking years old. "Sure you can borrow the car. Just don't wreck it like that one time..."

So this co-opting of "Shalom!" makes perfect sense in their nonsensical world, because they're showing how pro everything-Israel they are... until Doomsday. Then those Jews they were kind and Christian enough to keep forgiving have served their purpose.

Meanwhile, they'll keep funneling money to pastors who want to kill gays, Bryan Fischer, Pat Robertson, and all their other "pro Israel" fundie Christian friends.

Wow, you could tell all that by how they signed their posts.
You should consider yourself blessed.

233 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:06:16pm

re: #229 Jaerik

If this guy's God punishes Obama the Sinner not by striking him down, but by raining terrifying death and senseless destruction down on a town of unrelated innocents, then He should not be honored with the dignity of a public forum.

Unfortunately, it only takes a few nuts to give God a bad name.

234 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:08:15pm

re: #233 marjoriemoon

Unfortunately, it only takes a few nuts to give God a bad name.

Well said, my lovely friend. Hope you've been well-

235 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:19:01pm

re: #231 theheat

Well... I'm not happy with evangelists who actively proselytize. But I also have evangelist friends who have never discussed religion topics with me. Except for one when we compared bible stories, sort of the Christian v Jewish view. We both enjoyed the conversations.

Another thing too, I was in China with a g/f who was adopting and her baby came from an orphanage run by Christian missionaries. It was the only orphanage out of 3 where the children were healthy and chubby - well fed. It was also the smallest of the 3 with a smaller worker to baby ratio. Like I say, I'm not a fan of proselytizing, but these people do very good and difficult work.

To the rest I figure, they have their story and we have ours, or lack of one (regarding Armageddon). I'm betting we're right.

236 What, me worry?  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:19:34pm

re: #234 Aceofwhat?

Well said, my lovely friend. Hope you've been well-

My dear! Doing well here! I hope you, too.

237 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:28:32pm

re: #236 marjoriemoon

My dear! Doing well here! I hope you, too.

Some tennis, some swimming with the kids, some reading with the kids, and now stealing a little precious LGF time. Not a bad day;)

238 theheat  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:28:41pm

re: #232 ozbloke

No, it was that, and already being familiar with their politics and religion.

239 theheat  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:32:03pm

re: #235 marjoriemoon

I've never heard any of the Shalom fundies talk about orphanages, only converting the scores of unwashed in other countries to Christianity via getting as many Bibles in their hands as possible. The thought of so many people not being able to know Jesus as they do keeps them up at night.

240 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 28, 2011 6:50:33pm

re: #239 theheat

I've never heard any of the Shalom fundies talk about orphanages, only converting the scores of unwashed in other countries to Christianity via getting as many Bibles in their hands as possible. The thought of so many people not being able to know Jesus as they do keeps them up at night.

Generally those churches send aid, too. Kinda surprised you missed that, given how much time you spend with these folks in church.

241 theheat  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:01:18pm

re: #240 Aceofwhat?

Because non-church people are incapable of sending aid without the religion attached?

242 Aceofwhat?  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:09:50pm

re: #241 theheat

Because non-church people are incapable of sending aid without the religion attached?

If you seriously think there's something notably sinister about a box of aid that includes a bible (as opposed to a box of aid that doesn't), you're loonier than a canadian change machine.

For someone who doesn't believe in God (i assume), you spend an awful lot of time worrying about Him.

243 ozbloke  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:36:23pm

re: #238 theheat

No, it was that, and already being familiar with their politics and religion.

Each of them individually, or just as a broad statement?

244 sagehen  Sat, May 28, 2011 7:39:01pm

here late, didn't read the whole thread...

has somebody yet pointed out that maybe God sent tornados because he's angry at Oklahoma, Alabama and Missouri for electing asshole senators and governors?

Need I remind that there's been no tornados in New York, or California, or Illinois?

245 SidewaysQuark  Sat, May 28, 2011 8:21:01pm

re: #242 Aceofwhat?

If you seriously think there's something notably sinister about a box of aid that includes a bible (as opposed to a box of aid that doesn't), you're loonier than a canadian change machine.

Well, some should stop to think that it might be in bad taste and poor consideration to send flood victims a book that tells about God killing the whole world with a flood, for example....

246 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, May 28, 2011 9:02:09pm

Another hat tip. Cool. Thanks Charles.

I was at work and didn't see this till just now. This work stuff sure eats into important things like blogging, visting with a lady friend, and tinkering with model planes (and sometimes real ones, finances permitting). I've been trying to finagle a way around it for 40 years but haven't had much luck.

It's interesting that a great many freepers are as scornful of Farah as we are. This shows that there are many shades and variations of wingnuttery, and leads to the mind-boggling realization that there are crazier kooks than even Farah out there.

247 wheat-dogg  Sat, May 28, 2011 10:28:22pm

re: #158 negativ

There's a ton of reasons. Here's a few (from the perspective of a former physics teacher):
1. Creationists typically reject the idea Earth is billions of years old.
2. People generally have a hard time conceptualizing any large number, like billions, or even millions. Some probably have trouble with thousands.
3. Many folks unconsciously perceive the universe as non-changing (the old steady-state model of the universe is still with us). Same Moon, same Sun, same stars (Ooo! A shooting star! Make a wish!), same daily routine.
4. Creationists believe God created every animal more or less in the same forms as they appear now. In addition, they usually reject any concepts of common ancestry. ("God created tigers and kitty cats separately, Billy. Next question!")
5. There was that nice-looking fellow that passed through town about 9 months before your gggfather (or gggmother) was born, while GGGGMa Victoria's hubby was out of town.
6. A lot of people are scientifically illiterate, even on a good day.
7. Evolution is fucking slow.
8. People are fucking slow. (as in stupid, not, well, you know ...)
8. There were no eyewitnesses. The evidence is circumstantial. Case dismissed!
9. It ain't in the Babble!
10. As Einstein once said, people who stop wondering about shit like that are already dead. Pointless to argue with them.

248 Mark Winter  Sun, May 29, 2011 4:25:35am

Maybe God is just a lousy speller and only ordered Tournedos Rossini for breakfast.


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