Corsi's Idiotic Birther Book Debuts at #6

Corsi’s Idiotic Birther Book Debuts at #6

Bulk sales drive ranking

WingnutsMay 2011 • Views: 42,830

The new, freakishly bad Birther book by World Nut Daily’s Jerome Corsi has debuted at number six on the New York Times’ Best Sellers list.

But note the little dagger symbol.

WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?, by Jerome R. Corsi. (WND, $25.95.) An argument that President Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. (†)

This indicates that the book is being bought in bulk. Right wing groups often buy up large quantities of these kinds of books in order to pump up their rankings, then end up giving them away, selling them in bargain basements, or donating them.

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176 comments

mr.fusion Tue, May 31, 2011 11:41:16am

It does raise a good question…..I mean seriously, where is the birth certificate?

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 31, 2011 11:42:11am

re: #1 mr.fusion

It does raise a good question…I mean seriously, where is the birth certificate?

All over the web?

Oh, you mean the actual physical copy.

The state of Hawaii has it, just like every other birth certificate issued by Hawaii.

RanchTooth Tue, May 31, 2011 11:42:57am

Perhaps wingnuts are just getting picky about what they want to use as fuel for their post-apocalyptic/socialistic world so they need lots of books to burn.

Iwouldprefernotto Tue, May 31, 2011 11:43:01am

They will never give up. They will never be right, but they will never give up. Maybe they’ll take down some republicans with them.

mr.fusion Tue, May 31, 2011 11:43:23am

re: #2 EmmmieG

All over the web?

Oh, you mean the actual physical copy.

The state of Hawaii has it, just like every other birth certificate issued by Hawaii.

Ugh

I guess I should get used to adding “/sarc”

RanchTooth Tue, May 31, 2011 11:44:33am

re: #5 mr.fusion

Lol… I thought it was pretty obvious what you meant.

Randall Gross Tue, May 31, 2011 11:48:16am

I’m betting that these will be giveaways at some right wing politician shindigs, and I bet somewhere along the line salem communications and co might use them as come ons for their subs… (Free copy of x if you sign up for our newsletter now….)

Surabaya Stew Tue, May 31, 2011 11:48:30am

Harmless conspiracies:

Shakespeare didn’t write his plays
Sherlock Holmes actually lived

That’s about it that I can think of. The rest fall under the category of….

Harmful conspiracies:

The Elders of Zion wrote a protocol
The CIA killed JFK and/or RFK
AGW is a hoax
Etc….
….and now this crap.

Wait, are we sure that Darwin’s theory of evolution is correct? Because I’m not feeling it right about now!

BongCrodny Tue, May 31, 2011 11:50:04am

I wouldn’t call myself a radical environmentalist, but…those poor, poor trees.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, May 31, 2011 11:50:12am

re: #8 Surabaya Stew

Harmless conspiracies:

Shakespeare didn’t write his plays
Sherlock Holmes actually lived

That’s about it that I can think of. The rest fall under the category of…

Harmful conspiracies:

The Elders of Zion wrote a protocol
The CIA killed JFK and/or RFK
AGW is a hoax
Etc…
…and now this crap.

Wait, are we sure that Darwin’s theory of evolution is correct? Because I’m not feeling it right about now!

How about “Florence Harding actually killed Warren Harding because he was messing around?”

Seriously. It’s a theory, and the answer doesn’t actually matter, because they’re both dead, and his death didn’t matter much for America.

Balfour Rage Tue, May 31, 2011 11:52:25am

Why buy in bulk when half of the people that believe this birther shit can’t read any higher than the second grade level if at all?

BongCrodny Tue, May 31, 2011 11:53:19am

“Nonfiction.”

Pffft.

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 11:53:36am

Talk Radio hosts country wide will soon be telling callers to stay on the line so they can get their free copy shipped out.

iceweasel Tue, May 31, 2011 11:54:42am

re: #7 Thanos

I’m betting that these will be giveaways at some right wing politician shindigs, and I bet somewhere along the line salem communications and co might use them as come ons for their subs… (Free copy of x if you sign up for our newsletter now…)

Exactly. Some think tanks or PACs or whatever will buy in bulk, then ‘donate’to some wingnut site or other.

It’s wingnut welfare.

makeitstop Tue, May 31, 2011 11:55:06am

re: #8 Surabaya Stew

Harmless conspiracies:

Shakespeare didn’t write his plays
Sherlock Holmes actually lived

Paul McCartney is dead!

blueraven Tue, May 31, 2011 11:55:40am

Get your free copy with a subscription to: The Weekly Standard, Newsmax, National Review

mr.fusion Tue, May 31, 2011 11:55:44am

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Talk Radio hosts country wide will soon be telling callers to stay on the line so they can get their free copy shipped out.

And Republican presidential candidates will be offering it up all for a $25 donation to their campaign

BongCrodny Tue, May 31, 2011 11:56:57am

re: #8 Surabaya Stew

Harmless conspiracies:

Shakespeare didn’t write his plays
Sherlock Holmes actually lived

That’s about it that I can think of. The rest fall under the category of…

Harmful conspiracies:

The Elders of Zion wrote a protocol
The CIA killed JFK and/or RFK
AGW is a hoax
Etc…
…and now this crap.

Wait, are we sure that Darwin’s theory of evolution is correct? Because I’m not feeling it right about now!

Barack Obama and Jerome Corsi have the same number of letters in their names!

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, May 31, 2011 11:57:09am

It’s funny to see these on the “best seller” lists and then walk into an actual book store only to see them on the bargain table.

Shiplord Kirel Tue, May 31, 2011 11:59:43am

re: #10 EmmmieG

How about “Florence Harding actually killed Warren Harding because he was messing around?”

Seriously. It’s a theory, and the answer doesn’t actually matter, because they’re both dead, and his death didn’t matter much for America.

It might have. Harding usually ranks at the bottom of any list of US presidents, along with the doughface disasters Pierce and Buchanan. In recent years though his reputation has undergone a minor face-lift, thanks to an aspect of his policies that was little-appreciated at the time but that looms large today: Harding had a very good civil rights record for the time, better than his successor Coolidge and incomparably better than his openly racist predecessor Wilson.

Locker Tue, May 31, 2011 12:00:14pm

This is going right up there with the advanced copies of “Look out! Rapture arrives May 21st, 2011!”.

Bulworth Tue, May 31, 2011 12:00:41pm

re: #19 Dreggas

It’s funny to see these on the “best seller” lists and then walk into an actual book store only to see them on the bargain table.

It’s pretty annoying to walk into, say, a Borders and still see Crazy Mikey Savage’s most recent bile of a book prominently displayed, not to mention the various Glenn Beck books turned so the front cover faces the customer. All the anti-Obama books seem to get that special attention.

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 12:01:27pm

re: #8 Surabaya Stew

Harmless conspiracies:

Shakespeare didn’t write his plays
Sherlock Holmes actually lived

Elvis is alive.
Tupac is alive.
The CIA killed Princess Diana (that one is sad and stupid, but still harmless)

Pie-onist Overlord Tue, May 31, 2011 12:02:36pm

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

Elvis is alive.
Tupac is alive.
The CIA killed Princess Diana (that one is sad and stupid, but still harmless)

Queen Elizabeth II is a drug dealer.

Targetpractice Tue, May 31, 2011 12:02:38pm

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

Elvis is alive.
Tupac is alive.
The CIA killed Princess Diana (that one is sad and stupid, but still harmless)

Elvis ain’t dead, he just went home.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, May 31, 2011 12:03:15pm

re: #22 Bulworth

true but they also tend to be on the bargain table where bad books go to die.

Four More Tears Tue, May 31, 2011 12:03:17pm

re: #22 Bulworth

It’s pretty annoying to walk into, say, a Borders and still see Crazy Mikey Savage’s most recent bile of a book prominently displayed, not to mention the various Glenn Beck books turned so the front cover faces the customer. All the anti-Obama books seem to get that special attention.

I think it may be because they “buy” the space buy offering the books to the retailers at really low prices. It’s more about spreading the message than the profits.

Surabaya Stew Tue, May 31, 2011 12:03:28pm

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

Elvis is alive.
Tupac is alive.
The CIA killed Princess Diana (that one is sad and stupid, but still harmless)

You forgot all about Biggie. Heck, even Obama asked about that!

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:03:47pm

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

Elvis is alive.
Tupac is alive.
The CIA killed Princess Diana (that one is sad and stupid, but still harmless)

Soylent Green is actually made combining equal parts of Soylent Blue and Soylent Yellow.

calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 12:04:39pm

re: #12 BongCrodny

“Nonfiction.”

Pffft.

Mythology is nonfiction. Entirely fictional plays are nonfiction. Why not this stuff as well? ;-)

Surabaya Stew Tue, May 31, 2011 12:06:13pm

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Soylent Green is actually made combining equal parts of Soylent Blue and Soylent Yellow.

wrong…. Soylent Green is People!

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:07:17pm

re: #31 Surabaya Stew

wrong… Soylent Green is People!

Pfft, like anyone believes that.

Shiplord Kirel Tue, May 31, 2011 12:08:15pm

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel

US Grant is another much vilified president whose reputation is improving in light of 21st century sensibilities. He had some of the same problems as Harding, he relied on corrupt friends, and the same strength, a genuine concern for civil rights. Grant’s military reputation has also improved by leaps and bounds among modern historians and analysts.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:08:20pm

Brian’s Novel

This is all that ever comes to mind when I think of Corsi writing any type of book.

William Barnett-Lewis Tue, May 31, 2011 12:09:37pm

Heck with that Corsi dweeb.

Here’s something seriously cool: Calvin & Hobbes, 26 years later.

npr.org

darthstar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:11:49pm

Move over wingnuts…the real crazy is about to enter the presidential race.

Moore has tried professional kickboxing in Texas, ranching in the Australian outback and politics in Alabama. In that Deep South state, he ran for public office several times, including two runs for governor. He was trounced in both of those races. But he also got elected chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court — only to get booted off the bench less than three years later for disobeying a court order.

And what court order was that? The one saying you couldn’t build a fucking 10 Commandments monument on government property.

Yes, he’s considering a run as a Republican.

thatthatisis Tue, May 31, 2011 12:12:14pm

One of the bloggers at the dKos site says he went through a bookstore and moved all the Breitbart books from the non-fiction section, to fantasy.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:12:17pm

re: #35 wlewisiii

Heck with that Corsi dweeb.

Here’s something seriously cool: Calvin & Hobbes, 26 years later.

[Link: www.npr.org…]

First impression: A cross of Calvin/Hobbes and Bloom County. Neither of which anyone should ever attempt to revive - they were unique to their times and nothing can bring them back. It is like Pet Sematary.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:13:23pm

re: #36 darthstar

Move over wingnuts…the real crazy is about to enter the presidential race.

And what court order was that? The one saying you couldn’t build a fucking 10 Commandments monument on government property.

Yes, he’s considering a run as a Republican.

The GOP primary is attracting crazies like a zapper attracts flies.

Bulworth Tue, May 31, 2011 12:13:59pm

re: #33 Shiplord Kirel

US Grant is another much vilified president whose reputation is improving in light of 21st century sensibilities. He had some of the same problems as Harding, he relied on corrupt friends, and the same strength, a genuine concern for civil rights. Grant’s military reputation has also improved by leaps and bounds among modern historians and analysts.

I’ve always found this rather peculiar, this anti-Grant view. Of course the post-Civil War nation, especially after Reconstruction, became much more sympathetic to the South. I suspect that is part of the reason why Grant attracted at least some of the hostility he did. Generations of historians afterward viewed Reconstruction negatively, and along with that, the President who was most responsible for its implementation. At the same time, the notion arose that Lee was some sort of “noble” man, even a “patriot”. I still don’t get this.

Four More Tears Tue, May 31, 2011 12:14:41pm

re: #37 thatthatisis

One of the bloggers at the dKos site says he went through a bookstore and moved all the Breitbart books from the non-fiction section, to fantasy.

Yes, but did he alphabetize by author?

BongCrodny Tue, May 31, 2011 12:15:24pm

“Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought”:

“The Obama Nation” by Jerome Corsi (Ah, HAHAHA — “Abomination” — oh, you are indeed a card, Dr. Corsi!).

“Demonic: How the Liberal Mob is Endangering America,” by Ann Coulter.

“Righteous Indignation: Excuse Me While I Save The World,” by Andrew Breitbart.

“The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hilary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party,” by David Horowitz.

“Revolt!: How to Defeat Barack Obama and Repeal His Socialist Programs,” by Dick Morris.

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:16:34pm

re: #40 Bulworth

over a hundred years of concerted effort went into that, you have to admit they were pretty effective.

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, May 31, 2011 12:17:21pm

re: #42 BongCrodny

“Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought”:

“The Obama Nation” by Jerome Corsi (Ah, HAHAHA — “Abomination” — oh, you are indeed a card, Dr. Corsi!).

“Demonic: How the Liberal Mob is Endangering America,” by Ann Coulter.

“Righteous Indignation: Excuse Me While I Save The World,” by Andrew Breitbart.

“The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hilary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party,” by David Horowitz.

“Revolt!: How to Defeat Barack Obama and Repeal His Socialist Programs,” by Dick Morris.

They also Bought:

Adult Diapers

Wet Suits (usually in pairs)

How to make a fortune in GOLD!

iceweasel Tue, May 31, 2011 12:17:37pm

A new Scottish term from Jimmah, oddly appropriate for this topic: a shower of shite.

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:18:12pm

re: #45 iceweasel

Weasel! How the hell are ya?

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:19:13pm

By me, it’s 100 degrees (fahrenheit, not that commie french centigrade crap!), and the air is full of dragonflies and barbeque smoke.

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:19:48pm

re: #47 Guanxi88

By me, it’s 100 degrees (fahrenheit, not that commie french centigrade crap!), and the air is full of dragonflies and barbeque smoke.

And that’s just in the kitchen!

Bulworth Tue, May 31, 2011 12:20:21pm

re: #43 windsagio

over a hundred years of concerted effort went into that, you have to admit they were pretty effective.

Yes they were. Still are.

iceweasel Tue, May 31, 2011 12:21:00pm

re: #46 Guanxi88

Weasel! How the hell are ya?

Guanxi! I’m great! How’s by you? Jimmah is here and says hi too.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:21:58pm

OT Question: Why does mainstream Christianity in its various denominational forms let the Wingnuts get away with hijacking misinterpreted Christianity as a political platform?

BongCrodny Tue, May 31, 2011 12:22:58pm

re: #30 calochortus

Mythology is nonfiction. Entirely fictional plays are nonfiction. Why not this stuff as well? ;-)

Granted — then how about a separate section for “Hallucinations”?

martinsmithy Tue, May 31, 2011 12:23:21pm

If right-wing sites are buying them up, perhaps they should burn them. After all, they have lots of practice setting such fires.

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:24:34pm

re: #51 imp_62

No meaningful central authoirty?

What’re they gonna do?

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:25:36pm

re: #54 windsagio

Even in Catholicism, which has pretty good ‘central authority’, they don’t really excommunicate anymore, so their options are limited.

aagcobb Tue, May 31, 2011 12:25:44pm

re: #39 imp_62

You have to admit that having Moore, Palin, Bachmann and Cain in a GOP debate will vastly increase the entertainment value.

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:25:49pm

re: #50 iceweasel

Guanxi! I’m great! How’s by you? Jimmah is here and says hi too.

Can’t complain - wife won’t let me, boss doesn’t care.

It’s so friggin’ hot outside, I gotta wait till late at night to smoke or drink - it’s too hot for either of my main vices.

You two are still going strong, it would appear - good for you. Me? Well, the marriage is a shambles, as ever, but things took an interesting turn some months back……

An old love - and I mean from 20 years ago - found me through a business network, sent a few innocent emails, and then asked me to tell her whether I ever thought of her, and if so, what it was. (We corresponded for a decade, and were even writing when - unbeknownst to me - she was married.)

It’s mutual, it’s beautiful, it’s hopeless, and it’s life.

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:27:21pm

re: #54 windsagio

No meaningful central authoirty?

What’re they gonna do?

The Inquisition, lets begin…

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:28:04pm

re: #58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Inquisition, lets begin…

What a show!
The inquisition,
here we go!

Hey Torquemada,
Whadda ya say?

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:28:16pm

re: #54 windsagio

Statements by leading men and women of the cloth; leaders of major seminaries, etc. I feel as if an alien visitor to Earth, upon reading right wing publications, would conclude that Christianity is fundamentally capitalist, dogmatically racist, and hopelessly mired in 17th century intellectuality.

Targetpractice Tue, May 31, 2011 12:28:26pm

re: #51 imp_62

OT Question: Why does mainstream Christianity in its various denominational forms let the Wingnuts get away with hijacking misinterpreted Christianity as a political platform?

They may not be traveling in the same vehicle, but they’re arriving at the same destination, namely the various bans or outlawing of “immoral” acts or lifestyles.

iceweasel Tue, May 31, 2011 12:28:53pm

re: #57 Guanxi88

It’s mutual, it’s beautiful, it’s hopeless, and it’s life.

Have to bust out the Yeats for that:

How many loved your moments of glad grace,
And loved your beauty with love false or true,
But one man loved the pilgrim Soul in you,
And loved the sorrows of your changing face;

And bending down beside the glowing bars,
Murmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
And paced upon the mountains overhead
And hid his face amid a crowd of stars.

Good luck to you and your pilgrim soul, with love from me and Jimmah.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:29:12pm

re: #56 aagcobb

You have to admit that having Moore, Palin, Bachmann and Cain in a GOP debate will vastly increase the entertainment value.

Indubitably (said with a Sylvester lisp). I am looking forward - it is the possibility of President Bachmann or Palin that has me concerned.

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:29:30pm

re: #59 Guanxi88

What a show!
The inquisition,
here we go!

Hey Torquemada,
Whadda ya say?

I just got back from the Auto Da Fe

Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, May 31, 2011 12:29:55pm

re: #60 imp_62

you mean it isn’t?

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:30:01pm

re: #62 iceweasel

Dammit! I can’t handle Yeats!

I may have to brave the furnace outside to recover my sangfroid.

calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 12:30:12pm

re: #52 BongCrodny

Granted — then how about a separate section for “Hallucinations”?

I’m sure Mr. Dewey leaving that out of his organizational system was just an oversight.

Targetpractice Tue, May 31, 2011 12:30:34pm

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I just got back from the Auto Da Fe

Auto Da Fe? What’s an Auto Da Fe?

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:30:37pm

re: #61 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Isn’t mainstream Christianity focused on a lot more than old-testamant morality?

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:30:39pm

re: #60 imp_62

I know, sucks dunnit?

I kind of happens when a religion is the mainstream I think (maybe even when not), co-option galore!

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:30:55pm

re: #68 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Auto Da Fe? What’s an Auto Da Fe?

It’s what ya oughtn’t to do
But you do anyway

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:31:14pm

re: #68 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Auto Da Fe? What’s an Auto Da Fe?

Its what you ought to not to do but you do anyway!

sattv4u2 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:31:48pm

re: #68 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Auto Da Fe? What’s an Auto Da Fe?

The opposite of a Manual Da Fe

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:31:49pm

re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #71 Guanxi88

We are now re-hashing threads from some weeks ago lol

Tim TeaBro Tue, May 31, 2011 12:31:54pm

Where the hell is my birth certificate? I only have a copy of it.

Shiplord Kirel Tue, May 31, 2011 12:32:25pm

Still no rain in Lubbock (.92 inch this year). This is no doubt God’s judgment on the Lubbockites for voting 78% Republican in 2008.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:32:25pm

re: #70 windsagio

I know, sucks dunnit?

I kind of happens when a religion is the mainstream I think (maybe even when not), co-option galore!

It’s a bummer when the majority stands silently by while their ideology is co-opted.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:32:51pm

re: #75 BigPapa

Where the hell is my birth certificate? I only have a copy of it.

Perhaps you are a clone?

Olsonist Tue, May 31, 2011 12:32:55pm

Could they be buying it from themselves? Wouldn’t this be a very cheap mechanism for jimmying the numbers? I hope they’re paying their sales tax but I suspect Nevada is buying it from Oklahoma. It’s conceivable that actual books aren’t even being printed.

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:33:34pm

re: #74 imp_62

re: #71 Guanxi88

We are now re-hashing threads from some weeks ago lol

We’ve busted their knee caps, We’ve branded their buns.
Nothing is working… SEND IN THE NUNS!

Targetpractice Tue, May 31, 2011 12:33:56pm

re: #69 imp_62

Isn’t mainstream Christianity focused on a lot more than old-testamant morality?

Depends on what you consider “mainstream.” One church can claim to be “mainstream” but be far more liberal about things than the church down the street.

iceweasel Tue, May 31, 2011 12:34:21pm

re: #79 Olsonist

Could they be buying it from themselves? Wouldn’t this be a very cheap mechanism for jimmying the numbers? I hope they’re paying their sales tax but I suspect Nevada is buying it from Oklahoma. It’s conceivable that actual books aren’t even being printed.

They could be buying it themselves in a number of ways. IIRC Palin’s PAC bought many copies of Going Rogue. Whoops!

wrenchwench Tue, May 31, 2011 12:35:01pm

re: #79 Olsonist

Could they be buying it from themselves? Wouldn’t this be a very cheap mechanism for jimmying the numbers? I hope they’re paying their sales tax but I suspect Nevada is buying it from Oklahoma. It’s conceivable that actual books aren’t even being printed.

That would be perfect for a Corsi book!

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:35:15pm

re: #82 iceweasel

Freaking iPhone app developers do this now, its the wave of the future!

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:36:23pm

re: #84 windsagio

Also, classically, L-Ron.

shutdown Tue, May 31, 2011 12:37:20pm

gtg. cheers all

HoosierHoops Tue, May 31, 2011 12:38:23pm

re: #82 iceweasel

Hi Ice…Hope you and Jimmah are well

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:40:48pm

Egyptian general admits ‘virginity checks’ conducted on protesters

A senior Egyptian general admits that “virginity checks” were performed on women arrested at a demonstration this spring, the first such admission after previous denials by military authorities.

The allegations arose in an Amnesty International report, published weeks after the March 9 protest. It claimed female demonstrators were beaten, given electric shocks, strip-searched, threatened with prostitution charges and forced to submit to virginity checks.

At that time, Maj. Amr Imam said 17 women had been arrested but denied allegations of torture or “virginity tests.”

But now a senior general who asked not to be identified said the virginity tests were conducted and defended the practice.

zora Tue, May 31, 2011 12:42:38pm

re: #51 imp_62

OT Question: Why does mainstream Christianity in its various denominational forms let the Wingnuts get away with hijacking misinterpreted Christianity as a political platform?

nobody lets them do anything. they’re loud, brash, and offensive. media outlets can’t get enough of the shit they’re shoveling.

Snarknado! Tue, May 31, 2011 12:43:29pm

re: #40 Bulworth

“Patriot” is going a bit too far — he did take up arms against the US, after all. But he kept the confederates from starting a guerilla insurgency in the wake of their loss, and he spent the rest of his life working to bring the sides back together.

“Noble” is probably going too far too, but he conducted himself better than a lot of defeated generals.

calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 12:44:08pm

re: #88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But now a senior general who asked not to be identified said the virginity tests were conducted and defended the practice.

And how, pray tell, did he do that? Oh wait, a defense need not be successful to still be a defense.

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:45:48pm

re: #91 calochortus

And how, pray tell, did he do that? Oh wait, a defense need not be successful to still be a defense.

Because only virgins can be raped silly,

“The girls who were detained were not like your daughter or mine,” the general said. “These were girls who had camped out in tents with male protesters in Tahrir Square, and we found in the tents Molotov cocktails and (drugs).”
The general said the virginity checks were done so that the women wouldn’t later claim they had been raped by Egyptian authorities.

“We didn’t want them to say we had sexually assaulted or raped them, so we wanted to prove that they weren’t virgins in the first place,” the general said. “None of them were (virgins).”

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:46:56pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OK, shouldn’t let myself get surprised at this point, but that went in an unusually twisted direction all of a sudden.

darthstar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:47:02pm

That’s not a dagger symbol next to Corsi’s book. It’s a cross that signifies the book is Jesus-approved. I’m buying seven hundred copies myself…or seven hundred times seventy even.

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:47:52pm

re: #94 darthstar

You can’t get a better endorsement than God.

calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 12:48:29pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because only virgins can be raped silly,

Oh. Well. Carry on then. All makes perfect sense. *rolls eyes*

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:50:02pm

re: #95 windsagio

You can’t get a better endorsement than God.

Depends on which God and what product.

calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 12:51:07pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And what’s this about finding “Molotov cocktails and drugs” in those tents. Nothing says sexual debauchery like a good fire bomb. Customs must be different over there.

Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:52:42pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Depends on which God and what product.

Vishnu uses Right-Guard.
Ganesh eats planters.
etc., etc.

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Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:53:34pm

re: #62 iceweasel

ya went and made a grown man cry.

I hope you’re happy.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 12:53:37pm

re: #92 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because only virgins can be raped silly,

We were less formal, but there are a lot of middle-aged former Freedom Riders who could tell you similar stories.

(deleted, deleted, deleted, deleted)

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Olsonist Tue, May 31, 2011 12:53:55pm

re: #99 Guanxi88

Nike wears Nike.

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 12:54:20pm

re: #102 Olsonist

Nike wears Nike.

That one I think can’t be topped >

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rwdflynavy Tue, May 31, 2011 12:54:31pm

re: #102 Olsonist

Nike wears Nike.

Smells like…Victory

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Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:54:39pm

re: #99 Guanxi88

Vishnu uses Right-Guard.
Ganesh eats planters.
etc., etc.

Only buy Khorne certified chainsaws.
Make sure all your cutlery comes from a Crom backed company.
Never buy condoms with Nurgle’s recommendation.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 12:54:49pm

re: #99 Guanxi88

Vishnu uses Right-Guard.
Ganesh eats planters.
etc., etc.

Jesus saves, the Elder Gods collect, and Krishna copies.

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calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 12:55:22pm

re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought they were less interested in virginity and more interested in being annoying and intimidating.

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Guanxi88 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:55:44pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus saves, t~~he Elder Gods collect, and Krishna copies.~~ Moses invests.

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Targetpractice Tue, May 31, 2011 12:56:01pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus saves, the Elder Gods collect, and Krishna copies.

Jesus saves, the rest of you take full damage.

/nerd moment

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sattv4u2 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:57:45pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus saves, ~~the Elder Gods collect, and Krishna copies.~~ and Esposito scores on the rebound

((old bumper sticker from back when the Boston Bruins were in their heyday))

(((reference was high scoring center Phil Esposito)))

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rwdflynavy Tue, May 31, 2011 12:58:06pm

re: #104 rwdflynavy

Smells like…Victory

See, cause Nike was the goddess of victory and then that line from Apocalypse now….nevermind.

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Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 12:59:17pm

re: #111 rwdflynavy

See, cause Nike was the goddess of victory and then that line from Apocalypse now…nevermind.

So victory smells like a Greek foot?

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 12:59:27pm

re: #107 calochortus

I thought they were less interested in virginity and more interested in being annoying and intimidating.

A female protester is by definition a whore, who’s doing it with all the male protesters. Such a woman should expect to go on giving it up in custody. “These girls aren’t like your daughters, don’t worry about what happens to them.”

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sattv4u2 Tue, May 31, 2011 12:59:45pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

re: #111 rwdflynavy

They always lose sumfin when you have to translate them too, huh!

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calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 1:01:43pm

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

A female protester is by definition a whore, who’s doing it with all the male protesters. Such a woman should expect to go on giving it up in custody. “These girls aren’t like your daughters, don’t worry about what happens to them.”

Or if not a whore, simply “Other”-not one of Us-and therefore fair game.

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:01:56pm

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

man, one hopes those guys actually are willing to give up power when the time comes.

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calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 1:03:07pm

re: #116 windsagio

man, one hopes those guys actually are willing to give up power when the time comes.

From what I have heard they’ll be giving up power to other men who don’t respect women either.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Tue, May 31, 2011 1:08:49pm

Epic Trolling of religion

if you have the time this is great.

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Eclectic Infidel Tue, May 31, 2011 1:09:15pm

re: #75 BigPapa

Where the hell is my birth certificate? I only have a copy of it.

The hard copy is in Kenya.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:09:47pm

re: #117 calochortus

From what I have heard they’ll be giving up power to other men who don’t respect women either.

This.

Everyone got waaaay too happy over Egypt, but the new one is probably going to look just like the old one, plus more Copts getting the shit kicked out of them.

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freetoken Tue, May 31, 2011 1:10:14pm

I’m reading various headlines on news sites and blogs this morning and feeling that we (nation, civilization, or species, take your pick) really are on a suicide mission. No, I’m not just talking about the selfish stupidity of the Corsi and Bratfart groups, but the overall amazing ability we have to lie to ourselves. I suppose it was some sort of evolutionary advantage at some time… but now it’s become more of a death sentence.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 31, 2011 1:10:38pm

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

The CIA killed Princess Diana (that one is sad and stupid, but still harmless)

Micheal Savage told me it was the MI6 that did it, to prevent a half Arab child from ascending to the throne.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:10:58pm

Infidel, you checked the list recently?

Now with the cute jokes? Really?

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HC4BO Tue, May 31, 2011 1:11:10pm

This indicates that the book is being bought in bulk. Right wing groups often buy up large quantities of these kinds of books in order to pump up their rankings
====================

Hey, so long as regular people are NOT spending their hard earned money on this piece of GARBAGE … I STILL have hope in Humanity !

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Sol Berdinowitz Tue, May 31, 2011 1:12:16pm

Karl Rove tried to warn these people, but so many of them are still so invested in the Nirther meme that they will not give up on it and continue to make themselves and the entire ritght wing look like idiots.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:12:19pm

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

Micheal Savage told me it was the MI6 that did it, to prevent a half Arab child from ascending to the throne.

How could a half Arab child have ascended the throne through Diana? She was never the heir. Charles is, and after him, his sons.

(And given some the people that family is related to…)

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Eclectic Infidel Tue, May 31, 2011 1:13:08pm

re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist

Infidel, you checked the list recently?

Now with the cute jokes? Really?

You talking to me?

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iossarian Tue, May 31, 2011 1:13:14pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

This.

Everyone got waaay too happy over Egypt, but the new one is probably going to look just like the old one, plus more Copts getting the shit kicked out of them.

I dunno, this is more or less what happened over a long period in Western Europe, and the end product was finally something fairly attractive.

Don’t get me wrong, it sucks that Egypt probably won’t go to a modern democracy overnight. But the next lot in will (we hope) at least have to pay a bit more lip service to what “ordinary” people want. And hopefully those “ordinary” people want less unpleasantness, for the most part.

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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, May 31, 2011 1:13:41pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

I was thinking the same thing, but you know how Savage is.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:13:43pm

re: #127 eclectic infidel

You talking to me?

No, I’m talking about someone else.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:14:24pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

No, I’m talking about someone else.

But addressing you.

132

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:14:57pm

re: #128 iossarian

just about this, I can’t get with people saying that this whole thing is a step back.

133

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:15:45pm

re: #132 windsagio

just about this, I can’t get with people saying that this whole thing is a step back.

I’m waiting to see any proof that it is a step forward.

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wrenchwench Tue, May 31, 2011 1:15:49pm

re: #121 freetoken

I’m reading various headlines on news sites and blogs this morning and feeling that we (nation, civilization, or species, take your pick) really are on a suicide mission. No, I’m not just talking about the selfish stupidity of the Corsi and Bratfart groups, but the overall amazing ability we have to lie to ourselves. I suppose it was some sort of evolutionary advantage at some time… but now it’s become more of a death sentence.

That sounds depressing, so I don’t want to hear more. But why do I come here if not for the straight story…

135

Eclectic Infidel Tue, May 31, 2011 1:16:16pm

re: #131 SanFranciscoZionist

But addressing you.

Noted. I just got here. Sort of buzzed up on cough syrup.

Just saw the ‘joke’. Doesn’t strike me as funny.

It does drive one point home though: you, me, dusty, and cigar guy are in the minority.

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freetoken Tue, May 31, 2011 1:16:30pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

It is depressing… which is why I stopped at only 1 paragraph.

137

3CPO Tue, May 31, 2011 1:17:06pm

Tina Fey’s “Bossypants” is at number 5. I think that’s funny.

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calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 1:17:08pm

re: #132 windsagio

just about this, I can’t get with people saying that this whole thing is a step back.

I don’t know that it’s a step back, just not as far forward as one would like. And there is a strong possibility that many segments will be left behind.

139

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:17:40pm

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

well seriously, is there any reason you’re cynical about the whole thing?

Seem like its at the very very least a statement in favor of democratic principles.

140

SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:18:19pm

re: #135 eclectic infidel

Noted. I just got here. Sort of buzzed up on cough syrup.

Just saw the ‘joke’. Doesn’t strike me as funny.

It does drive one point home though: you, me, dusty, and cigar guy are in the minority.

It also drives another point home: no amount of explaining that we have political diversity in the group, and should, perhaps, avoid pissing one another off, is getting through.

141

aagcobb Tue, May 31, 2011 1:18:25pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

How could a half Arab child have ascended the throne through Diana? She was never the heir. Charles is, and after him, his sons.

(And given some the people that family is related to…)

And of what significance are mere facts to Michael Savage?

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:18:29pm

re: #138 calochortus

you know how it is, gotta have baby steps first :p

143

Kragar Tue, May 31, 2011 1:20:41pm

re: #141 aagcobb

And of what significance are mere facts to Michael Savage?

“GET OFF MY SHOW!”

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freetoken Tue, May 31, 2011 1:20:56pm

For example, I don’t know how many of you have been following developments in Brazil of late, but in Brazil there has been a growing conflict over what to do with the Amazonian basin, with many different “sides”. It is now turning bloody. Rapid deforestation is on the doorstep and Brazil’s leader, though sympathetic to long term ecological sustainability, is getting pressure from both sides (industry, and the communist led locals). Now it is turning bloody.

On another front, industry spin master Michael Lind published a piece in Salon that essentially is blowing smoke up the collective asses of Wall Street investors (as well as their tea partying marks.)

And so on and so on…

145

windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:21:37pm

re: #144 freetoken

gah, links!

146

calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 1:21:48pm

re: #142 windsagio

you know how it is, gotta have baby steps first :p

That is true.

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:22:22pm

re: #139 windsagio

well seriously, is there any reason you’re cynical about the whole thing?

Seem like its at the very very least a statement in favor of democratic principles.

Reasons I’m cynical: the army is still in control. They were in control when Mubarak was on the throne, they will veto anyone coming to power they do not like. Plus, continued/increased outbreaks of hostility toward the Christian community.

What will reduce my cynicism: seeing elections that look above-board and repeat for a few cycles. Seeing minority groups, women and the poor make some progress.

Just because people want freedom don’t always mean that people GET freedom. The desire is clearly there, but I don’t know how far it’s going to get, in terms of real change. The people at Tienanmen wanted democratic principles too.

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reine.de.tout Tue, May 31, 2011 1:23:09pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

This.

Everyone got waaay too happy over Egypt, but the new one is probably going to look just like the old one, plus more Copts getting the shit kicked out of them.

From what I see of Sandmonkey’s tweets, I’m really nervous about Egypt.

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freetoken Tue, May 31, 2011 1:23:16pm

re: #145 windsagio

E.g.,

washingtonpost.com

salon.com

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:23:23pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

That’s the whole question tho’

“Will the Military let go? And what will people do if they Don’t?”

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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, May 31, 2011 1:23:25pm

re: #148 reine.de.tout

From what I see of Sandmonkey’s tweets, I’m really nervous about Egypt.

How’s he doing?

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:23:30pm

re: #149 freetoken

love you!

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wrenchwench Tue, May 31, 2011 1:25:41pm

re: #139 windsagio

well seriously, is there any reason you’re cynical about the whole thing?

Seem like its at the very very least a statement in favor of democratic principles.

Here’s a Tweet from Sandmonkey:

A lot of my friends who stopped after the revolution due to frustration keep asking me why I still do it, even though the answer is simple

…followed by tweets that are supposed to be inspirational, but reveal the frustration he mentioned. He’s generally optimistic, but you can see that it is not certain that democracy will be the result.

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freetoken Tue, May 31, 2011 1:25:55pm

Coal is a booming business:

Coal industry looks past Japan dip as Asia demand booms

Coal producers in Indonesia and Australia are racing to ramp up output to capture Asia’s booming demand for power that has quickly filled the gap left by a drop in demand from quake-hit Japan, executives at a conference said on Tuesday.

Exports of coal from Indonesia, the world’s top exporter of thermal coal used to fuel power stations, were diverted to China in the wake of Japan’s devastating earthquake and tsunami in March, showing the hunger of the rest of Asia to soak up available spot cargoes.

[…]

155

lawhawk Tue, May 31, 2011 1:26:00pm

Oy. GOPer Michele Bachmann says that she’s running for President because she heard God say it was her calling.

Hey Kenneth, time to adjust that frequency. It’s really London calling…

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:26:00pm

re: #149 freetoken

OK maybe I don’t love you ><, that’s an ugly read.

I’m trying to figure out how natural gas ‘emits less carbon dioxide’ than coal. Does he mean pollutants?

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calochortus Tue, May 31, 2011 1:26:47pm

Gotta go do something constructive.

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:27:42pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

well in fairness, the initial post of this discussion chain was this:

man, one hopes those guys actually are willing to give up power when the time comes.

That’s the obvious concern, but people seem to be acting as if its a foregone conclusion that they won’t.

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wrenchwench Tue, May 31, 2011 1:29:08pm

re: #158 windsagio

well in fairness, the initial post of this discussion chain was this:

That’s the obvious concern, but people seem to be acting as if its a foregone conclusion that they won’t.

The time for them to step down has come and gone, if they were going to do it. ‘Tis the nature of power.

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windsagio Tue, May 31, 2011 1:29:16pm

re: #158 windsagio

or that even if they do, Egypt will still end up with something worse than Mubarak.

~~~

I am hungry tho’, I’m thinking Teriyaki today.

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freetoken Tue, May 31, 2011 1:30:50pm

re: #156 windsagio

Per unit of energy released, methane combined with oxygen emits fewer molecules of CO2 than does coal (pure coal would simply be pure C).

However, what Lind ignores (because it messes with his sales pitch) is:

1) methane released into the atmosphere;
2) the use of natural gas leads to more consumption which leads to more energy use which leads to more consumption…. etc.
3) world coal use has increased along with world natural gas use, to confirm #2 above.

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albusteve Tue, May 31, 2011 1:31:23pm

Military Commission to Review List of Charges Against 9/11 Suspects

For the second time, U.S. prosecutors have filed charges with a military commission against the five suspects held in Guantanamo Bay in connection with planning the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Corsi’s Idiotic Birther Book Debuts at #6

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