Video: Weiner Refuses to Answer Questions About Nontroversy

Weiner can’t win at this point
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On CNN, Rep. Anthony Weiner tells reporters he isn’t going to talk about the incredibly dumb “Weinergate” nontroversy. Do you think this is the right way for him to handle the situation?

I don’t know how I’d handle it, but I do know that this is exactly what smear merchants like Andrew Breitbart count on. If they can get their target into a position where he has to deny their accusations, there’s just no way for the target to look good. If he denies, he looks like he has something to hide, and if he says he won’t talk about it, he also looks like he has something to hide. He can’t win. No matter what Weiner says at this point, it’s going to be used to make him look bad.

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1 RanchTooth  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:39:51pm

Why would Rep. Weiner do this? He has a promising career, is well liked and was mulling a run for Mayor of NYC. To do something as childish and stupid as this would be political suicide, even if he did mean to do it privately, as the right is now suggesting.

As a dedicated Twitter user myself, the most likely scenario is that Weiner himself mistakenly DM’ed (direct-messaged) the “prank” photo to the young woman in Seattle and intended it to be private. It takes just one wrong keystroke for a private DM to appear in one’s public timeline. (Allah wonders if Weiner would be so stupid as to post the photo through publicly-viewed Yfrog, but as we’ve seen from the recent bipartisan parade of — pardon my language — political wankers from Ensign and Edwards to Schwarzenegger and Sanford, etc, etc, etc — politicians do supremely stupid things when they think with the wrong organ.)

Good grief.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:40:54pm

I think the whole hockey-hockey-hockey-porn-hockey thing is odd.

3 windsagio  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:41:00pm

He clearly has something to hide!

4 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:41:11pm

re: #1 RanchTooth

Ah, you're saying the most likely scenario is that he sent it? But nobody's claiming that happened. What's claimed is that it was uploaded to the yfrog account.

5 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:41:34pm

There's a Lyndon B. Johnson quote about calling his opponent a "pig F'cker" and making him deny it. Seems appropriate here.

6 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:42:41pm

At this point, the most appropriate thing to do is allow the investigation to proceed.

And change our passwords to something a little tougher.

7 wrenchwench  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:42:54pm

re: #1 RanchTooth

Sadly, the formatting does not indicate that your second paragraph was actually written by the execrable M. Malkin.

8 RanchTooth  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:43:56pm

re: #7 wrenchwench

awwwwwwww CRUD

9 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:44:07pm

re: #8 RanchTooth

Ah, good to know.

10 wrenchwench  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:45:24pm

re: #8 RanchTooth

awww CRUD

You could try again...

Don't forget your friend Preview!

11 RanchTooth  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:45:27pm

re: #1 RanchTooth

Whoa.... it just changed... There is someone watching!?!?!!

12 windsagio  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:45:55pm

re: #10 wrenchwench

Preview is for the weak!

13 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:46:36pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

I think the whole hockey-hockey-hockey-porn-hockey thing is odd.

jockey porn?


There is no law against bad taste

--Larry Flynt

14 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:46:38pm

re: #11 RanchTooth

Whoa... it just changed... There is someone watching!?!?!!

The all-seeing eye of Mad King Chuckie.

15 renata39.5  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:47:35pm

Oh my goodness. The conservatives on my colleges sort-of alumni forum are all over this. Particularly comparing it to Bill Clinton and Christopher Lee (of course). And, just as you've said, Charles, every thing he's done and said is being used against him. He says his account was hacked? Oh sure. Nice excuse. He denies any knowledge of the picture or how it happened? Riiiiight. He consults an attorney to find out what his options are to pursue this? Yeah, he's totally hiding something and hedging his bets. And of course, even though there is nothing about the picture to indicate who it's a picture of, every one of them discusses the picture as though it's obviously/definitely of Rep. Weiner. And all discussion is appended with "since he's a Democrat, the media doesn't care/this'll actually help his career" snidery. Ugh. This is why I don't usually bother entering political/current events discussion on that board. It's terribly frustrating.

16 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:48:40pm

Do you think the term "college co-ed" is a big well, sexist? if not archaic.

17 RanchTooth  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:48:56pm

re: #14 Charles

Thanks Chuck. My hero!

18 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:49:04pm

Well the best way to deal with something like this is to;
A. Mock Breitbart
B. Sic your lawyers on him
C. Point out that there is a private citizen involved who is now being harrassed

19 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:49:08pm

I think he is doing the right thing by keeping his pie hole shut on the subject. When someone asks, "Tell me Congressman, do you still beat your wife?", the correct response is to shake one's with a look of pity and say, "Did your parents have any children who grew up with functioning forebrains? Next question!".

20 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:49:08pm

re: #14 Charles

The all-seeing eye of Mad King Chuckie.

LOL!

21 wrenchwench  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:49:23pm

re: #16 ggt

Do you think the term "college co-ed" is a big well, sexist? if not archaic.

I have always thought that.

22 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:50:39pm

re: #16 ggt

Do you think the term "college co-ed" is a big well, sexist? if not archaic.

Yes.
Just like calling a woman a "girl".....women in college are women, not girls.

23 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:50:42pm

Sick, just sick. This is a put-up job if ever I've seen one. And the way its being used is stupid for all except Breitbart. Conservatives need to understand he's a friend to no one but himself (and even then he's a false friend by my lights).

24 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:51:02pm

On the advice of counsel, I will have no further comments on my alleged lovechild with Morgan Fairchild.

25 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:51:05pm

re: #16 ggt

Do you think the term "college co-ed" is a big well, sexist? if not archaic.

Collegette?

Studentess?

Studentina?

Of course, along with her picture, college student would suffice.

26 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:51:56pm

re: #25 EmmmieG

Collegette?

Studentess?

Studentina?

Of course, along with her picture, college student would suffice.

female college student?

27 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:52:06pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

On the advice of counsel, I will have no further comments on my alleged lovechild with Morgan Fairchild.

But, you're gonna get hit with child support!
;)

28 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:53:08pm

Man, the right wing blogs are in a total feeding frenzy over this story.

Am I ever glad that I'm not associated with these loons any more.

29 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:53:32pm

re: #26 ggt

female college student?

The picture alone covers the "female" part.

30 Kragar  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:54:18pm

Heard this on the way home before, its my official breitbart song from now on,

Youtube Video

Tell those stories to me
I'm dying to hear the things you've done and seen
Farfetched as they may be
You strike a smile in me
Your stories ring of perjury
Construed with self empowering theme

Suckin' on my brain you're the teacher I'm the student
Turning things around your story's not congruent
Tabloid decoys pitiful excuses
Turning things around
You're turning things around

A manic stunning scene
I'm taking notes your taking me away into your false reality
I know your comfort lies in lying to try to make your life make sense
But you're not making sense
With your two cents, you're...

31 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:54:39pm

re: #22 webevintage

Yes.
Just like calling a woman a "girl"...women in college are women, not girls.

or high school students "children". When the MSM does it it always gives you the impression the person involved is 7 years old.

32 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:55:04pm

re: #22 webevintage

Yes.
Just like calling a woman a "girl"...women in college are women, not girls.

If you are more than 15 years younger than me you are a girl, or a boy.

I've not reached adulthood yet so people younger than can't have either.

33 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:55:18pm

re: #23 Dark_Falcon

Sick, just sick. This is a put-up job if ever I've seen one. And the way its being used is stupid for all except Breitbart. Conservatives need to understand he's a friend to no one but himself (and even then he's a false friend by my lights).

Sadly its very hard to make someone understand something when their job (in this case their hopes of being re-elected) depend on them not understanding it.

Breitbart will continue to be popular with the GOP as it continues its downward spiral towards rock bottom.

You will be pulling a "D" lever for president inside a decade Dark... count on it.

34 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:55:41pm

re: #32 b_sharp

If you are more than 15 years younger than me you are a girl, or a boy.

I've not reached adulthood yet so people younger than can't have either.

What happens if you never do?
Just curious...

35 Targetpractice  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:56:19pm

re: #28 Charles

Man, the right wing blogs are in a total feeding frenzy over this story.

Am I ever glad that I'm not associated with these loons any more.

Because they're in CYA mode, they need something to take the focus off the shellacking they've been taking in the press of late. The GOP has become its own worst enemy and the only way to regain the momentum is to take the focus off them long enough to find something they can gain traction with. Hence a "sex scandal" involving a Democrat, particularly one whose been getting a lot of press of late for speaking out against the Ryan Plan and assorted Republican lunacy.

36 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:56:45pm

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

What happens if you never do?
Just curious...

Everybody else will be eternally young.

37 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:57:30pm

re: #33 jamesfirecat

Sadly its very hard to make someone understand something when their job (in this case their hopes of being re-elected) depend on them not understanding it.

Breitbart will continue to be popular with the GOP as it continues its downward spiral towards rock bottom.

You will be pulling a "D" lever for president inside a decade Dark... count on it.

If they nominate Palin it'll be next year. If they nominate someone like Pawlenty or Romney, I'll happily vote Republican.

38 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:57:30pm

I think Weiner is handling it perfectly. The way a politician should handle such a ridiculous accusation.

A reporter says, "The distraction would go away if you would answer some of our questions." And he replies, "I'm not convinced of that."

And he's right. It won't go away or rather, it will go away quickest with the least attention. He's already made his statements. It's not true, so why keep going on about it?

39 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:58:14pm

I still haven't seen mention of a police investigation so I'm starting to think it may have been a photoshop and not a hack. Since photoshopping isn't a crime there might not be a criminal case. Wiener might pursue a civil case but there may be no crime committed.

40 darthstar  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:59:11pm

Well, given the fact that CNN had Breitbart on live TV to help further this bullshit, I can see why Weiner wouldn't want to let them have an interview.

41 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 5:59:17pm

re: #28 Charles

Man, the right wing blogs are in a total feeding frenzy over this story.

Am I ever glad that I'm not associated with these loons any more.

What else is news? They simply slither from one nontroversy of the (day, week, month) to the next. "It is a tale...full of sound and fury; signifying nothing.”

Little Billy Shakespeare

42 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:00:07pm

re: #31 ggt

or high school students "children". When the MSM does it it always gives you the impression the person involved is 7 years old.

Yes.

Calling females who are over 18 girls just rubs me the wrong way. Gender politics and finding ways to subtly rob women of their adult autonomy and all that.
Because if they are "girls" then it sounds like someone just might have a right telling them what they can do with their bodies.

43 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:00:18pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

If they nominate Palin it'll be next year. If they nominate someone like Pawlenty or Romney, I'll happily vote Republican.

Pawlenty, who wants creationism taught in schools, wants to reinstante DADT-- and therefore eject thousands of servicemembers-- and who never had a balanced budget?

44 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:00:44pm

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

If they nominate Palin it'll be next year. If they nominate someone like Pawlenty or Romney, I'll happily vote Republican.

It won't be Romney or if it is expect him to be saddled with a Palin like VP.

It might be Pawlenty...

I figure my prediction of "a decade" gives me three presidential elections.

They might run Romney this year, but he's a Patrician Flip Flopper from Massachusetts so good luck with that and that means by 2016, the GOP will feel free to nominate someone like Palin, Cain or Paul since its "their turn"

45 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:01:28pm

re: #15 renata39.5

Oh my goodness. The conservatives on my colleges sort-of alumni forum are all over this. Particularly comparing it to Bill Clinton and Christopher Lee (of course).

Wait, what?!?! I know that I self identify as a conservative of sorts, but I refuse to countenance any slander against the Great Christopher Lee! NO SIR!

/or ma'am, as the case may be. your nic isn't really gender descriptive.

46 Kragar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:01:31pm

re: #43 Obdicut

Pawlenty, who wants creationism taught in schools, wants to reinstante DADT-- and therefore eject thousands of servicemembers-- and who never had a balanced budget?

JOBS JOBS JOBS!

47 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:02:35pm

re: #42 webevintage

Yes.

Calling females who are over 18 girls just rubs me the wrong way. Gender politics and finding ways to subtly rob women of their adult autonomy and all that.
Because if they are "girls" then it sounds like someone just might have a right telling them what they can do with their bodies.

Anyone not born during the FDR administration are 'boys' or 'girls'. Those who satisfy that criteria are 'guys' or 'dolls'.

48 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:02:58pm

re: #42 webevintage

Yes.

Calling females who are over 18 girls just rubs me the wrong way. Gender politics and finding ways to subtly rob women of their adult autonomy and all that.
Because if they are "girls" then it sounds like someone just might have a right telling them what they can do with their bodies.

I don't visualize an age when I use the terms boys or girls unless the context suggests it. I do visualize a gender.

49 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:03:00pm

re: #41 austin_blue

What else is news? They simply slither from one nontroversy of the (day, week, month) to the next. "It is a tale...full of sound and fury; signifying nothing.”

Little Billy Shakespeare

Because they have nothing else. The only offer of anything new was Paul Ryan's hit piece legislation on the elderly that only hit rock bottom. The only other thing they offer is to fight already decided legislation, repeal DADT, repeal healthcare. So they only offer scandal. It's all they have, to smear the Left.

50 Interesting Times  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:03:02pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I still haven't seen mention of a police investigation so I'm starting to think it may have been a photoshop and not a hack. Since photoshopping isn't a crime there might not be a criminal case. Wiener might pursue a civil case but there may be no crime committed.

Yes, good point, and it irritates the hell out of me to see concern trolls compare this to Palin's email hack - in that case, it was completely obvious from the get-go that someone succeeded in logging in to her account, and that's how they caught the person! He was dumb enough to leave the URL visible in the email screenshots, which allowed law enforcement to identify the proxy server he used and then trace his IP.

In this case, we still don't know exactly what happened (i.e. was the photo posted from Weiner's account or not?) And if that investigation is still ongoing, it makes perfect sense that he's hired lawyers in the meantime.

51 Targetpractice  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:03:31pm

re: #38 marjoriemoon

I think Weiner is handling it perfectly. The way a politician should handle such a ridiculous accusation.

A reporter says, "The distraction would go away if you would answer some of our questions." And he replies, "I'm not convinced of that."

And he's right. It won't go away or rather, it will go away quickest with the least attention. He's already made his statements. It's not true, so why keep going on about it?

Yeah, "Give us what we want and we'll go away." How many politicians have been stupid enough to believe that and paid with their careers? Answered a "few simple questions," only to wake up the next morning to find headline reading "Congressman Denies Truth: What's He Hiding?"

52 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:04:16pm

re: #45 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, what?!?! I know that I self identify as a conservative of sorts, but I refuse to countenance any slander against the Great Christopher Lee! NO SIR!

/or ma'am, as the case may be. your nic isn't really gender descriptive.

I believe you mean the the great SIR Christopher Lee

53 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:04:32pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

PIMF: "those criteria".

54 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:05:21pm

"No other men were able to go forward with the march of events and meet new conditions with new provisions." On the contrary, all turned unanimously for help to the days of old. Go back to the virtues of our forefathers, patriots cried . . . ."

p. 177, The Roman Way by Edith Hamilton.

From my Pages link.

55 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:06:05pm

re: #52 jamesfirecat

I believe you mean the the great SIR Christopher Lee

But he's a bad guy!

56 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:06:50pm

re: #22 webevintage

Yes.
Just like calling a woman a "girl"...women in college are women, not girls.

"Listen sister, I can hide a can of cat food under each breast. If he wants to call me 'girl', I'm gonna let him".

- Brett Butler (paraphrased)

57 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:08:18pm

re: #42 webevintage

Yes.

Calling females who are over 18 girls just rubs me the wrong way. Gender politics and finding ways to subtly rob women of their adult autonomy and all that.
Because if they are "girls" then it sounds like someone just might have a right telling them what they can do with their bodies.

or what to think or not to think or vote . . .

"Oh honey, don't you worry your pretty little head about it . . "

58 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:08:20pm

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HOUSING DOUBLE DIP!

59 Kragar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:08:26pm

re: #55 b_sharp

But he's a bad guy!

Bitches please, Its Christopher Lee

Image: 1291478705-13.jpg

60 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:08:27pm

re: #55 b_sharp

But he's a bad guy!

You don't have to tell me....

I mean look at the guy! he already looks like he's contemplating world domination!

61 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:08:32pm

re: #40 darthstar

Well, given the fact that CNN had Breitbart on live TV to help further this bullshit, I can see why Weiner wouldn't want to let them have an interview.

Sad. CNN is the best of the cable networks in terms of news delivery, and seeing them let that hack on the air is annoying. I understand the motive, but they ought to not let him on until he apologizes to Shirley Sherrod, IMO. And even then he's a liar of the Stephen Glass / Jayson Blair variety. Worse than Blair, in fact, since he's actively trying to hurt people.

62 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:08:33pm

re: #52 jamesfirecat

I believe you mean the the great SIR Christopher Lee

I shall flog myself for such an offensive mistake. Sometime later.

re: #55 b_sharp

But he's a bad guy!

Your point?

63 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:09:17pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Anyone not born during the FDR administration are 'boys' or 'girls'. Those who satisfy that criteria are 'guys' or 'dolls'.

Well, I think you're a doll & it doesn't fit your criteria.
So there!

64 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:09:38pm

re: #49 marjoriemoon

Because they have nothing else. The only offer of anything new was Paul Ryan's hit piece legislation on the elderly that only hit rock bottom. The only other thing they offer is to fight already decided legislation, repeal DADT, repeal healthcare. So they only offer scandal. It's all they have, to smear the Left.

My point exactly! Look at how the announced candidates are crawfishing away from previous positions on the need for health care insurance to reform the system (Newt and Mitt), and climate change (pretty much everybody else). The only True Blue dyed-in-the-wool Teabagger is Luap Nor. And he's just as crazy as a schizophrenic off his meds. But he *is* consistent.

65 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:09:48pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I still haven't seen mention of a police investigation so I'm starting to think it may have been a photoshop and not a hack. Since photoshopping isn't a crime there might not be a criminal case. Wiener might pursue a civil case but there may be no crime committed.

pull him off his horse and tie him up with a bunch of ridiculous crap to deal with...somebody out there may be smarter than supposed

66 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:11:06pm

re: #50 publicityStunted

And really yet another reason he shouldn't talk about it publicly.

67 darthstar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:11:25pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

Sad. CNN is the best of the cable networks in terms of news delivery, and seeing them let that hack on the air is annoying. I understand the motive, but they ought to not let him on until he apologizes to Shirley Sherrod, IMO. And even then he's a liar of the Stephen Glass / Jayson Blair variety. Worse than Blair, in fact, since he's actively trying to hurt people.

It gets better...he used the time he had on CNN to further claim that he was right about Sherrod - or at least that something good came of his actions with smearing her... The guy is an unapologetic piece of shit. He deserves to be on CNN about as much as some crazy fucker living outside a BART station in San Francisco strung out on drugs and yelling at strangers.

68 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:11:32pm

re: #55 b_sharp

But he's a bad guy!

Stay on Target!

69 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:11:49pm

re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth

I shall flog myself for such an offensive mistake. Sometime later.

re: #55 b_sharp

Your point?

Well,... he's a bad guy.

70 TedStriker  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:12:27pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

It won't be Romney or if it is expect him to be saddled with a Palin like VP.

It might be Pawlenty...

I figure my prediction of "a decade" gives me three presidential elections.

They might run Romney this year, but he's a Patrician Flip Flopper from Massachusetts so good luck with that and that means by 2016, the GOP will feel free to nominate someone like Palin, Cain or Paul since its "their turn"

And a heathen Mormon...don't forget about that, because the fundie wingnuts won't and they won't hesitate to say it to the rest of the GOP.

71 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:13:58pm

re: #67 darthstar

It gets better...he used the time he had on CNN to further claim that he was right about Sherrod - or at least that something good came of his actions with smearing her... The guy is an unapologetic piece of shit. He deserves to be on CNN about as much as some crazy fucker living outside a BART station in San Francisco strung out on drugs and yelling at strangers.

Again, he deserves it even less because he's sane and actively seeking to hurt people. I hope Sherrod adds tonight's little bile spew to her lawsuit and I hope she takes Andrew Breitbart for everything he's got (though she likely won't).

72 Kragar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:14:14pm

I Think I Understand Breitbart Now

I think I understand Andrew Breitbart's personality profile. I knew a kid like him growing up in Clinton, Iowa.

The boy's name was "Danny." He was small, had a repaired cleft palate, and did everything he could to pick fights with the bigger, tougher kids.

Most of the time, the bigger, tougher kids would just ignore him. But sometimes, Danny got his ass beat. And I mean, beat real good

He'd come struggling back in after recess at St. Irenaeus Elementary School, his nose bubbling with a mixture of blood, snot and tears, crying to Sister Mary Clarita about how that bully Greg or that even bigger bully Marty picked on him and it was all "for nuthin'".

What Sister Mary Clarita never heard was Danny on the playground calling Greg "fatso" or calling Marty a "retard". And if they'd ignore him, he'd follow after them saying the word over and over and over again until the kid finally wheeled around and bopped him on his incredibly easy-to-make-bleed schnozz.

Marty or Greg would get in trouble. Danny would sit in the back of the classroom, sniffling, his eyes still all moist, looking all the world like a victim of a war crime.

Continues...

73 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:14:38pm

re: #67 darthstar

It gets better...he used the time he had on CNN to further claim that he was right about Sherrod - or at least that something good came of his actions with smearing her... The guy is an unapologetic piece of shit. He deserves to be on CNN about as much as some crazy fucker living outside a BART station in San Francisco strung out on drugs and yelling at strangers.

there is no pushback besides CJ, and he is doing the best he can....AB has been gaining speed and sooner or later you assume he'll lose control...but these are crazy times....I expect to see these heads running for office soon enough

74 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:14:40pm

re: #70 talon_262

And a heathen Mormon...don't forget about that, because the fundie wingnuts won't and they won't hesitate to say it to the rest of the GOP.

He wears pagan underwear! On noes!

75 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:15:49pm

re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Most of the time, the bigger, tougher kids would just ignore him. But sometimes, Danny got his ass beat. And I mean, beat real good

Couldn't have happened to a better guy!

76 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:16:47pm

re: #69 b_sharp

Well,... he's a bad guy.

Still not getting your point. Try typing it in spanish.
/

77 darthstar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:18:33pm

re: #44 jamesfirecat

It won't be Romney or if it is expect him to be saddled with a Palin like VP.

It might be Pawlenty...

I figure my prediction of "a decade" gives me three presidential elections.

They might run Romney this year, but he's a Patrician Flip Flopper from Massachusetts so good luck with that and that means by 2016, the GOP will feel free to nominate someone like Palin, Cain or Paul since its "their turn"

What would be really cool is, if the Democrats get both houses back in 2012 they start treating the Republicans like the Republicans treat them...and they take the initial whining and criticism about "ramming down the throats" of Republicans their legislation...go for it. Protect Americans, raise taxes, protect the environment...spend the first year and a half in office "ramming" through as much progressive legislation as they can. Then campaign on it in 2014 without shame. Instead of losing seats, they'll gain more. Then, in 2015 they can pass "Medicare for All" and force auto manufacturers to build 50% of their fleets as hybrids (the auto companies, knowing this is coming, will already be prepared for this). That's how you say, "America, fuck yeah!" and make it mean something.

78 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:18:37pm

re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth

Still not getting your point. Try typing it in spanish.
/

simple....mierda

79 TedStriker  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:19:19pm

re: #56 Slumbering Behemoth

"Listen sister, I can hide a can of cat food under each breast. If he wants to call me 'girl', I'm gonna let him".

- Brett Butler (paraphrased)

I loved Brett Butler's TV show...the rest of the cast (especially Dave Thomas) made it funny as hell. It was a damn shame she fucked it up by crawling back in the bottle when the show got popular (IIRC)...

80 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:20:30pm

re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth

I might get banned, but he's a shingador.

81 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:21:07pm

re: #79 talon_262

I loved Brett Butler's TV show...the rest of the cast (especially Dave Thomas) made it funny as hell. It was a damn shame she fucked it up by crawling back in the bottle when the show got popular (IIRC)...

thankfully, I am unaware of this particular event

82 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:22:15pm

re: #80 Floral Giraffe

I might get banned, but he's a shingador.

Not if you spell it with an 's'.

83 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:22:38pm

re: #79 talon_262

I loved Brett Butler's TV show...the rest of the cast (especially Dave Thomas) made it funny as hell. It was a damn shame she fucked it up by crawling back in the bottle when the show got popular (IIRC)...

Is that what happened? That's a damn shame. That girl (SORRY, I MEAN WOMAN! WOMAN!!!) was funny as all get out.

84 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:22:47pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Heh!

85 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:22:53pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Not if you spell it with an 's'.

yeah, I was wondering . . . . :)

86 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:23:19pm

re: #83 Slumbering Behemoth

You better get the woman part right, up front, there, sonny...

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:24:27pm

re: #80 Floral Giraffe

I might get banned, but he's a shingador.

¿Que?

88 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:24:28pm

re: #77 darthstar

What would be really cool is, if the Democrats get both houses back in 2012 they start treating the Republicans like the Republicans treat them...and they take the initial whining and criticism about "ramming down the throats" of Republicans their legislation...go for it. Protect Americans, raise taxes, protect the environment...spend the first year and a half in office "ramming" through as much progressive legislation as they can. Then campaign on it in 2014 without shame. Instead of losing seats, they'll gain more. Then, in 2015 they can pass "Medicare for All" and force auto manufacturers to build 50% of their fleets as hybrids (the auto companies, knowing this is coming, will already be prepared for this). That's how you say, "America, fuck yeah!" and make it mean something.

I think that's a likely scenario. Plus Obama won't have another term hanging over his head to worry about. The last few years have taught him quite a bit about the position, as well.

89 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:24:42pm

TV's most significant use is broadcasting football games and local weather....other than those I see little reason to use one

90 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:25:06pm

re: #89 albusteve

TV's most significant use is broadcasting football games and local weather...other than those I see little reason to use one

C-SPAN

91 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:26:19pm

re: #90 ggt

C-SPAN

See-Spawn?
no thanks, I have a clue as to what those jerktoids are up to

92 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:26:42pm

re: #86 Floral Giraffe

You better get the woman part right, up front, there, sonny...

You go girl!
You and me together.
You show them how commas and ellipsis can be used as a verbal strike force,
and I'll bring my colon to the game.

93 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:26:55pm

re: #89 albusteve

I mostly use mine for video games. I barely even watch the Super Bowl.

94 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:26:57pm

re: #91 albusteve

See-Spawn?
no thanks, I have a clue as to what those jerktoids are up to

No one does, but it's proof they MSM and the rhetoric are BS.

95 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:27:30pm

re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth

I mostly use mine for video games. I barely even watch the Super Bowl.


WHAT?
OMG

96 Kragar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:28:33pm

re: #95 albusteve


WHAT?
OMG

What?

Whats the Super Bowl? Is that the one with the puck?

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:28:38pm

re: #95 albusteve

I don't care about football. I've got better things to do with my time.

98 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:28:41pm

commie football haters have invaded LGF....
the End is near

99 renata39.5  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:28:51pm

re: #60 jamesfirecat

You don't have to tell me...

I mean look at the guy! he already looks like he's contemplating world domination!

While he may be contemplating world domination, Sir Christopher Lee has no need to troll Craiglist, unlike his formerly congressional namesake. He is above such lowbrow activities!

100 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:29:17pm

re: #97 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't care about football. I've got better things to do with my time.

like trash Palin all day long here?...got it

101 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:29:33pm

re: #77 darthstar

What would be really cool is, if the Democrats get both houses back in 2012 they start treating the Republicans like the Republicans treat them...and they take the initial whining and criticism about "ramming down the throats" of Republicans their legislation...go for it. Protect Americans, raise taxes, protect the environment...spend the first year and a half in office "ramming" through as much progressive legislation as they can. Then campaign on it in 2014 without shame. Instead of losing seats, they'll gain more. Then, in 2015 they can pass "Medicare for All" and force auto manufacturers to build 50% of their fleets as hybrids (the auto companies, knowing this is coming, will already be prepared for this). That's how you say, "America, fuck yeah!" and make it mean something.

It'd be nice, but Democrats don't act like that.

As the sage of Oologah famously said WAY back in the day:

"I don't belong to an organized political party – I'm a Democrat." – Will Rogers

102 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:29:59pm

re: #99 renata39.5

While he may be contemplating world domination, Sir Christopher Lee has no need to troll Craiglist, unlike his formerly congressional namesake. He is above such lowbrow activities!

A member of the Royal Society has more class than a Congress Critter. He is a Knight afterall. .. .

103 Kragar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:30:16pm

re: #98 albusteve

commie football haters have invaded LGF...
the End is near

Football? Thats the one where they put on 30lbs of padding to play Rugby, right?

104 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:30:39pm

re: #86 Floral Giraffe

I was trying to find the "Grace Under Fire" clip that corresponds to my #56 to link [here], but the internet came up blank. Sorry.

105 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:31:00pm

re: #101 austin_blue

It'd be nice, but Democrats don't act like that.

As the sage of Oologah famously said WAY back in the day:

"I don't belong to an organized political party – I'm a Democrat." – Will Rogers

AS I remember it, The Democrats did it to the Republicans during the last administration and it was reversed before that.

SSDD

106 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:31:11pm

re: #103 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Football? Thats the one where they put on 30lbs of padding to play Rugby, right?

can you use a spoon yet?

107 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:31:34pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth

¿Que?

Chinga tu madre, pendejo cabron!

108 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:32:36pm

re: #92 b_sharp

Um, you can keep your colon just right where it is!
Use it wisely...

109 Kragar  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:32:42pm

re: #106 albusteve

can you use a spoon yet?

Yeah, but I still cork my fork.

110 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:33:00pm

re: #100 albusteve

like trash Palin all day long here?...got it

You say that like it's a bad thing.

111 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:33:07pm

re: #89 albusteve

TV's most significant use is broadcasting football games and local weather...other than those I see little reason to use one

Playing DVDs and foreign TV shows. I don't have cable.

112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:33:09pm

re: #98 albusteve

commie football haters have invaded LGF...
the End is near

Football is a sport for commies. End of discussion.

re: #100 albusteve

like trash Palin all day long here?...got it

Nope, that's your job. No wait, you're the "trash every gawd damn thing but football or The Stones" guy. Sorry, my mistake.

113 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:33:40pm

re: #108 Floral Giraffe

Um, you can keep your colon just right where it is!
Use it wisely...

But,...
:::

114 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:33:45pm

re: #98 albusteve

commie football haters have invaded LGF...
the End is near

Youtube Video
115 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:34:16pm

re: #110 marjoriemoon

You say that like it's a bad thing.

it is...go dig a hole in the yard instead

116 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:34:38pm

Have fun all!

117 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:34:57pm

re: #108 Floral Giraffe

Um, you can keep your colon just right where it is!
Use it wisely...

Breitbart uses his as a place to keep his head.

118 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:35:26pm

re: #111 austin_blue

Playing DVDs and foreign TV shows. I don't have cable.

I declare you 'temporarily safe'
don't mess it up

119 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:35:55pm

re: #115 albusteve

it is...go dig a hole in the yard instead

And miss all your quips? Never!

120 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:36:21pm

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

Football is a sport for commies. End of discussion.

re: #100 albusteve

Nope, that's your job. No wait, you're the "trash every gawd damn thing but football or The Stones" guy. Sorry, my mistake.

it's a pretty steep curve, I admit

121 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:36:47pm

re: #115 albusteve

it is...go dig a hole in the yard instead

I don't have the head for it.

122 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:37:13pm

re: #121 b_sharp

I don't have the head for it.

NOT gonna click that puppy!

123 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:37:14pm

re: #111 austin_blue

Playing DVDs and foreign TV shows. I don't have cable.

Cable TV is for commies as well. Or was that fascists?

This thread is moving too fast.

124 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:37:41pm

re: #121 b_sharp

I don't have the head for it.

sweet...getting back to the basics here

125 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:37:44pm

re: #118 albusteve

I declare you 'temporarily safe'
don't mess it up

Thank you, Your Curmudgeonly Grace!

(Oh, dear. Did I just screw the pooch?)

126 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:38:26pm

re: #125 austin_blue

Thank you, Your Curmudgeonly Grace!

(Oh, dear. Did I just screw the pooch?)

LOL!
Yes, I think you did!

127 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:38:29pm

re: #122 Floral Giraffe

NOT gonna click that puppy!

Why? (he asks innocently)

128 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:39:10pm

re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth

Cable TV is for commies as well. Or was that fascists?

This thread is moving too fast.

never too fast....where were you in the bad old days?
I love a fast thread....speed is a natural buzz you know

129 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:39:14pm

re: #127 b_sharp

Do I look that stupid?
Cute, yes, dumb, no!

130 Renaissance_Man  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:39:25pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

I think that's a likely scenario. Plus Obama won't have another term hanging over his head to worry about. The last few years have taught him quite a bit about the position, as well.

Unfortunately, I think it not only unlikely, but impossible.

Democrats have demonstrated themselves unfit to lead. The fiasco of the past 2-3 years is embarrassing; how they squandered the momentum of a landslide victory in 2008 and proved themselves unable to perform so many basic functions of government, such as passing a budget, is inexcusable. Yes, a significant part of that is the fact that they have to give up a third to a half of the government to a bizarre cult. That is no excuse for not leading, or governing. In any other political situation the Democrats should be derided as the embarrassments they are and removed from power. However, in the USA, they are the only political party that exists at the moment, and there is simply no alternative. Such is life. You do the best you can with what you have.

The real reason such a scenario is impossible is that the most powerful element in the USA is the media. And the media war has been won, by the aforementioned insane cult. This means that a significant plurality of the populace will never support governing that actually benefits the citizens of the USA at the expense of those that control the wealth. It's a shame, but it is the truth.

131 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:39:44pm

re: #125 austin_blue

Thank you, Your Curmudgeonly Grace!

(Oh, dear. Did I just screw the pooch?)

I think you just poohed the scrooge.

132 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:39:48pm

re: #125 austin_blue

Did I just screw the pooch?

If you have to ask, you're either blind drunk or doing it wrong.

133 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:40:34pm

re: #122 Floral Giraffe

NOT gonna click that puppy!

Go ahead (heh). It's Mostly Harmless, if you can tolerate the smell...

134 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:40:41pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

If you have to ask, you're either blind drunk or doing it wrong.

EWWW!

135 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:41:13pm

re: #133 austin_blue

Go ahead (heh). It's Mostly Harmless, if you can tolerate the smell...

And Another Thing... ;)

136 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:41:16pm

re: #128 albusteve

never too fast...where were you in the bad old days?
I love a fast thread...speed is a natural buzz you know

The pre-registration days? Nope, I didn't find LGF until '07.

137 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:41:51pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

If you have to ask, you're either blind drunk or doing it wrong.

Derrick Trucks Band

Youtube Video
138 Targetpractice  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:43:21pm

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

The pre-registration days? Nope, I didn't find LGF until '07.

*Spit* Damned kids! GET OFF MY LAWN!

///

139 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:43:23pm

re: #137 albusteve

Derrick Trucks Band

[Video]

Ah, Butch's little tyke...

140 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:43:26pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

If you have to ask, you're either blind drunk or doing it wrong.

Hee Hee, Says an expert!
(Ducks & runs!)

141 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:43:49pm

re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth

The pre-registration days? Nope, I didn't find LGF until '07.

I'd found it but couldn't get in....in the past, threads usually moved much faster

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:43:59pm

re: #137 albusteve

Derrick Trucks Band

[Video]

Not bad. Not bad at all. I share his sentiments there.

143 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:44:09pm

re: #139 austin_blue

Ah, Butch's little tyke...

nephew

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:44:48pm

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

Hee Hee, Says an expert!
(Ducks & runs!)

THAT POOCH IS A GAWD DAMNED LIAR!!!

145 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:45:05pm

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

Hee Hee, Says an expert!
(Ducks & runs!)

How does a giraffe duck? The long neck would seem to preclude that.

146 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:45:15pm

re: #143 albusteve

nephew

(Pulls forelock.)

147 lawhawk  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:45:18pm

re: #28 Charles

You asked what someone like Weiner should do if confronted by media outlets under this situation. I think you put it best -

I don’t know how I’d handle it, but I do know that this is exactly what smear merchants like Andrew Breitbart count on. If they can get their target into a position where he has to deny their accusations, there’s just no way for the target to look good. If he denies, he looks like he has something to hide, and if he says he won’t talk about it, he also looks like he has something to hide. He can’t win. No matter what Weiner says at this point, it’s going to be used to make him look bad.

Pretty much say that - these hacks put him in a no-win situation and denials don't matter.

148 Decatur Deb  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:45:30pm

Knocking off early--just finished a 5-day inspection tour of the kids. Driving through Montgomery AL, we were passed by 4-5 people with Klan t-shirts on Harleys and trikes painted in Confedrate flags. They were followed in the lane by a Black woman in a huge green SUV. I can't read minds, but I could read hers. 'Nite, all.

149 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:45:44pm

re: #141 albusteve

The election/debate threads still move a mile a minute.

150 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:46:07pm

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Sleep well.

151 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:46:24pm

re: #146 austin_blue

(Pulls forelock.)

you get a pass bro

152 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:46:50pm

re: #5 Floral Giraffe

There's a Lyndon B. Johnson quote about calling his opponent a "pig F'cker" and making him deny it. Seems appropriate here.

re: #147 lawhawk

See my post above.

153 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:47:00pm

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Knocking off early--just finished a 5-day inspection tour of the kids. Driving through Montgomery AL, we were passed by 4-5 people with Klan t-shirts on Harleys and trikes painted in Confedrate flags. They were followed in the lane by a Black woman in a huge green SUV. I can't read minds, but I could read hers. 'Nite, all.

Nothing like a Confederate Swastika to get people's blood up...

154 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:47:24pm

Such bullshit today. Weiner (who I enjoyed re-watching his Click and Clack speech on the house floor) And those two idiots Palin & Trump.

Bullshit.

Here, enjoy.

Youtube Video
155 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:47:39pm

re: #130 Renaissance_Man

Unfortunately, I think it not only unlikely, but impossible.

Democrats have demonstrated themselves unfit to lead. The fiasco of the past 2-3 years is embarrassing; how they squandered the momentum of a landslide victory in 2008 and proved themselves unable to perform so many basic functions of government, such as passing a budget, is inexcusable. Yes, a significant part of that is the fact that they have to give up a third to a half of the government to a bizarre cult. That is no excuse for not leading, or governing. In any other political situation the Democrats should be derided as the embarrassments they are and removed from power. However, in the USA, they are the only political party that exists at the moment, and there is simply no alternative. Such is life. You do the best you can with what you have.

The real reason such a scenario is impossible is that the most powerful element in the USA is the media. And the media war has been won, by the aforementioned insane cult. This means that a significant plurality of the populace will never support governing that actually benefits the citizens of the USA at the expense of those that control the wealth. It's a shame, but it is the truth.

Unfit to lead? You think Republicans are fit to lead? A legacy made off the backs of the elderly, women, the poor and immigrants? Really now.

The economy was in the toliet and the lack of affordable healthcare was killing more people than the diseases. That's the big two that happened when Obama was elected. Also, the Republican party has shown themselves for incompetents when the only bit of significant legislation was Ryan's Medicare proposal that they themselves wouldn't even swallow.

The Democrats are slow out of the gate. That's true, but I'd rather squander opportunities than pass bad law, if you're giving me a choice.

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:48:36pm

re: #153 austin_blue

Nothing like a Confederate Swastika to get people's blood up...

Flying the flag of two losers in one, two nations that ceased to exist long ago, is quite the head scratcher.

157 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:48:38pm

re: #149 Slumbering Behemoth

The election/debate threads still move a mile a minute.

yeah, those are really fun...I'm not a windy poster, I try to express myself with the fewest words, not the most....therefore, I'm stupid, but it bothers me not

158 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:49:09pm

re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth

THAT POOCH IS A GAWD DAMNED LIAR!!!

She passed a lie detector test.
I'm just saying.

159 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:50:06pm

re: #155 marjoriemoon

Unfit to lead? You think Republicans are fit to lead? A legacy made off the backs of the elderly, women, the poor and immigrants? Really now.

The economy was in the toliet and the lack of affordable healthcare was killing more people than the diseases. That's the big two that happened when Obama was elected. Also, the Republican party has shown themselves for incompetents when the only bit of significant legislation was Ryan's Medicare proposal that they themselves wouldn't even swallow.

The Democrats are slow out of the gate. That's true, but I'd rather squander opportunities than pass bad law, if you're giving me a choice.

I think that he was trying to say that neither party is fit to lead.

160 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:50:57pm

re: #158 b_sharp

She passed a lie detector test.
I'm just saying.

That Bitch set SB up!!1

/playing off the literal meaning of the word 'bitch'

161 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:51:14pm

I have never seen a guy play the slide as fast as Derrick Trucks

162 BishopX  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:51:46pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

To paraphrase Churchill, "the democrats are the worst political party in America, except for all the others."

163 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:51:58pm

re: #154 Stanley Sea

I can see why the wingnuts want to smear this guy with anything that'll stick. I'm starting to like his style.

164 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:52:15pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

That Bitch set SB up!!1

/playing off the literal meaning of the word 'bitch'

No need to 'splain Dark, we got it.

165 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:52:50pm

re: #163 Slumbering Behemoth

I can see why the wingnuts want to smear this guy with anything that'll stick. I'm starting to like his style.

The best part, he has no notes.

Yep, they don't like that smarty pants from NY.

166 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:53:14pm

re: #161 albusteve

I have never seen a guy play the slide as fast as Derrick Trucks

He was born with a glass slide in his hand.

167 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:53:37pm

re: #157 albusteve

yeah, those are really fun...I'm not a windy poster, I try to express myself with the fewest words, not the most...therefore, I'm stupid, but it bothers me not

Less is more. Short posts do not indicate that you're stupid.

There are plenty of other clear indicators you give off.
/love ya, bro.

168 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:54:06pm

re: #166 b_sharp

He was born with a glass slide in his hand.

true enough...he's like royalty...
but he delivers

169 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:54:19pm

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

Less is more. Short posts do not indicate that you're stupid.

There are plenty of other clear indicators you give off.
/love ya, bro.

D'oh!

170 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:54:33pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

I think that he was trying to say that neither party is fit to lead.

Well we don't have a choice of no one! I don't see it as hopeless and I'm not cynical about my own party. Actually, my cynicism wanders in and out. I suppose it depends on my mood. But enough about me.

I happen to like a great many Democrats as people and devoted public servants who genuinely care about the people they represent and want to make a better and safer world. Sounds awful cheesy, but for realz. Florida Dems are awesome, they're just outnumbered.

171 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:54:46pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

That Bitch set SB up!!1

/playing off the literal meaning of the word 'bitch'

Upding for being so quick on the draw. That was pretty close to the response I was just about to type. I hate you now.
/

172 Renaissance_Man  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:54:58pm

re: #155 marjoriemoon

Unfit to lead? You think Republicans are fit to lead? A legacy made off the backs of the elderly, women, the poor and immigrants? Really now.

Not at all. What I said was that the Democrats have demonstrated themselves unfit to lead, but that they are the only political party in the country, and thus we have no choice. The modern Republican party is no longer a political party, but rather a bizarre cult that the US political system inexplicably allows to control significant parts of government.

173 Targetpractice  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:55:10pm

re: #163 Slumbering Behemoth

I can see why the wingnuts want to smear this guy with anything that'll stick. I'm starting to like his style.

Yep, he's been beating the GOP black and blue for awhile now. He's the kinda guy the wingnuts hate with a passion: A Democrat with balls.

174 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:55:43pm

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

Less is more. Short posts do not indicate that you're stupid.

There are plenty of other clear indicators you give off.
/love ya, bro.

my bib is soaked....do me up again...
"nobody knows....."

175 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:55:53pm

re: #173 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yep, he's been beating the GOP black and blue for awhile now. He's the kinda guy the wingnuts hate with a passion: A Democrat with balls.

As long as they aren't blue.

176 Chrysicat  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:56:30pm

re: #172 Renaissance_Man

Not at all. What I said was that the Democrats have demonstrated themselves unfit to lead, but that they are the only political party in the country, and thus we have no choice. The modern Republican party is no longer a political party, but rather a bizarre cult that the US political system inexplicably allows to control significant parts of government.

I wish I had enough posts for my dinger to work because that post needs to be +100...

177 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:56:45pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I still haven't seen mention of a police investigation so I'm starting to think it may have been a photoshop and not a hack. Since photoshopping isn't a crime there might not be a criminal case. Wiener might pursue a civil case but there may be no crime committed.

The only problem with that is I haven't read anywhere that Weiner denies the tweet and the pic came from his hacked "pranked" account. There's a very good reason he hasn't asked the FBI to look into how this happened.....ask Martha Stewart what happens to people who don't give 100% truthful statements to the FBI.

178 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:57:47pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

When another of clip of him was linked a day or so ago, I believe I commented something like "He could have been a stand up comedian in another universe".

179 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:57:53pm

re: #176 Chrysicat

I wish I had enough posts for my dinger to work because that post needs to be +100...

Don't worry too much, some people here make your dinger go limp...

From overuse.

180 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:58:01pm

"We have an important debt limit vote tonight that will..."

"Yes, Mr. Weiner, but what kind of underwear do you have on right now?"

181 Chrysicat  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:58:31pm

re: #177 RogueOne

The only problem with that is I haven't read anywhere that Weiner denies the tweet and the pic came from his hacked "pranked" account. There's a very good reason he hasn't asked the FBI to look into how this happened...ask Martha Stewart what happens to people who don't give 100% truthful statements to the FBI.

Wait, wait...

...that almost sounds like you're in agreement with the wingnuts that it's Weiner's...ummmm...weiner on that pic...

182 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:59:30pm

re: #179 b_sharp

Don't worry too much, some people here make your dinger go limp...

From overuse.

heh...think about that for a half beat

183 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 6:59:58pm

re: #180 JasonA

"We have an important debt limit vote tonight that will..."

"Yes, Mr. Weiner, but what kind of underwear do you have on right now?"

cherry flavored

184 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:00:18pm

re: #170 marjoriemoon

Well we don't have a choice of no one! I don't see it as hopeless and I'm not cynical about my own party. Actually, my cynicism wanders in and out. I suppose it depends on my mood. But enough about me.

I happen to like a great many Democrats as people and devoted public servants who genuinely care about the people they represent and want to make a better and safer world. Sounds awful cheesy, but for realz. Florida Dems are awesome, they're just outnumbered.

Yeah but the Florida GOp has had some stand-outs too. Jeb Bush did very well as governor and Marco Rubio has proven not to be a teabaging robot but rather an effective and smart senator.

Both parties have assholes at times too, such as Alan Grayson for the Dems and Alan West for the GOP (maybe both parties should agree not to nominate guys named Alan).

185 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:00:23pm

re: #176 Chrysicat

I wish I had enough posts for my dinger to work

*cough*

186 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:00:28pm

re: #181 Chrysicat

Wait, wait...

...that almost sounds like you're in agreement with the wingnuts that it's Weiner's...ummm...weiner on that pic...

A married guy doing something stupid for a cute girl half his age with boobs bigger than his head? I don't think that has ever happened before!

187 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:01:01pm

re: #177 RogueOne

The only problem with that is I haven't read anywhere that Weiner denies the tweet and the pic came from his hacked "pranked" account. There's a very good reason he hasn't asked the FBI to look into how this happened...ask Martha Stewart what happens to people who don't give 100% truthful statements to the FBI.

I think it's a very slim possibility the pic came from him.

188 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:01:44pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

I think it's a very slim possibility the pic came from him.

Did you see the Kos diary that apparently debunked the yfrog account?

189 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:02:35pm

re: #185 Slumbering Behemoth

*cough*

Yet, another link I'M NOT CLICKING!

190 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:03:00pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

I think it's a very slim possibility the pic came from him.

he's been rolled and doesn't quite know what to do about it...
ahaha!, it goes with the turf amigo...he's a caustic asshole and very smart....the perfect target

191 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:03:03pm

If I were Weiner I'd tell the press that it couldn't possibly be me in those pics because I only wear women's panties. Let them have fun with that one.

192 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:03:37pm

re: #191 JasonA

If I were Weiner I'd tell the press that it couldn't possibly be me in those pics because I only wear women's panties. Let them have fun with that one.

Victoria's Secret LOVES you now!

193 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:03:46pm

re: #184 Dark_Falcon

Yeah but the Florida GOp has had some stand-outs too. Jeb Bush did very well as governor and Marco Rubio has proven not to be a teabaging robot but rather an effective and smart senator.

Both parties have assholes at times too, such as Alan Grayson for the Dems and Alan West for the GOP (maybe both parties should agree not to nominate guys named Alan).

The problem Dark is that while there are still regional pockets of Sanity in the GOP, taken all together, the GOP is now bought, sold, and owned by the Socons.

Its probably painful for you to hear that.... but how else do you explain the rash of socon bills kicking things off this year with the new congress?

194 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:03:47pm

re: #172 Renaissance_Man

Not at all. What I said was that the Democrats have demonstrated themselves unfit to lead, but that they are the only political party in the country, and thus we have no choice. The modern Republican party is no longer a political party, but rather a bizarre cult that the US political system inexplicably allows to control significant parts of government.

But I don't see that that's true, they are unfit to lead. Why are they unfit? Because Obama squandered opportunities? Or we just like social programs.

Like I say, better on the back burner than bad law.

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:03:59pm

Anthony Weiner KILLS At Congressional Correspondents' Dinner

Youtube Video

Yup. Dude has some comedic chops.

196 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:04:13pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

Did you see the Kos diary that apparently debunked the yfrog account?

ooohhh...the plot thickens...
I bet there is a bun in the oven as we speak

197 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:05:04pm

re: #192 Floral Giraffe

Victoria's Secret LOVES you now!

'bout time they return the favor, isn't it?

198 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:05:36pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

I think it's a very slim possibility the pic came from him.

I don't know if it came from him or not but it definitely came from his account. He certainly hasn't made it easy to believe him that it was a "prank". I don't think he should be ridden out of town on a rail but this might be the funniest/best story of the year. The only way it could possibly be better is if his name was Dong. I've already checked the house membership, this is the best we're going to get.

199 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:05:46pm

re: #191 JasonA

If I were Weiner I'd tell the press that it couldn't possibly be me in those pics because I only wear women's panties. Let them have fun with that one.

actually a fine idea...but he has to assess the price against his re-up you know

200 bratwurst  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:05:59pm

re: #177 RogueOne

Who could have guessed that you would have...um...concerns about this?

201 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:06:12pm

re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth

'bout time they return the favor, isn't it?

You can only hope.
Mr. Wexner isn't very charitable.
Still, the ladies MIGHT be...

202 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:07:51pm

re: #184 Dark_Falcon

Yeah but the Florida GOp has had some stand-outs too. Jeb Bush did very well as governor and Marco Rubio has proven not to be a teabaging robot but rather an effective and smart senator.

Both parties have assholes at times too, such as Alan Grayson for the Dems and Alan West for the GOP (maybe both parties should agree not to nominate guys named Alan).

Jeb Bush sucked, but in a very sad way, I'd take him now over Governor Skeletor.

Rubio will probably make a run for Pres in 2016. If no one finds him twittering his penis to college grads and he keeps clean, he'd probably be a good choice. He's got the first Hispanic thing going on and he's young and cute. Not all too teabaggy either. And no, I don't dig Rubio at all, but I can see that scenario.

Alan Grayson? I'll have to google.

You guys also had Mark Foley lol

203 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:08:01pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

Did you see the Kos diary that apparently debunked the yfrog account?

I did but I'm not sure about it because I don't have the technical expertise to form an opinion. It might be the the embedded data from the pic was changed when the dude saved it to his computer. I just don't know.

204 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:08:01pm

Uhm uhm huhm!

*Climbs up on soapbox*

Really? Because Dark has an opinion that isn't popular now you are going to harass his ass more than 100 posts past the last time he commented? Shame on you.

I happen to like Dark and respect him, besides which also I don't like lynch mobs, if you have a problem with a comment then say so then and get it off your chest then. Preferably to the person who made the comment.

Trading insults between yourselves back and forth about someones post while failing to address them directly makes you different than the stalker blog how? :p

Back the fuck off and act like adults, every time someone disagrees with the commonly held wisdom here doesn't mean that they should be assaulted for hundreds of posts. This place is going to become really fucking boring when there are nothing but "yes men" here, don't you think?

I thought the majority of the people here were smart enough to avoid "Yeah me too!!11!" posts but now I am starting to wonder if I was correct. :(

*steps down from soapbox*

205 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:08:18pm

I'm guessing the only hack involved in this story goes by the name "Breitbart."

206 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:08:22pm

re: #200 bratwurst

Who could have guessed that you would have...um...concerns about this?

I don't have any concerns. He's not my husband and she's not my sister. The only "concern" I have is how many men are trying their hardest to come up with an excuse. It reminds me of the tiger woods episode on South Park.

Rich, successful men suddenly want to have sex with many, many women, and the nation's top scientists are called in to put a stop to the epidemic. After extensive testing, some of the boys in South Park Elementary are also diagnosed as sex addicts. The search for a cure to the outbreak of sexual addiction leads them all the way to Independence Hall.


[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]

207 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:08:30pm

re: #200 bratwurst

Who could have guessed that you would have...um...concerns about this?

shouldn't we all?...this is the face of American politics, trying to figure out who'd dick belongs to who...you love it

208 darthstar  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:08:44pm

Why it doesn't pay to gamble with cats...

Youtube Video
209 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:09:02pm

re: #203 Killgore Trout

I did but I'm not sure about it because I don't have the technical expertise to form an opinion. It might be the the embedded data from the pic was changed when the dude saved it to his computer. I just don't know.

Weiner has already said the photo came from his account. The only question is who uploaded and sent it.

210 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:09:14pm

re: #204 ausador

Thank you for stepping up & out!
*claps* real claps!

211 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:09:19pm

re: #191 JasonA

If I were Weiner I'd tell the press that it couldn't possibly be me in those pics because I only wear women's panties. Let them have fun with that one.

That should be in the top 10 you know!

212 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:09:34pm

re: #198 RogueOne

I don't know if it came from him or not but it definitely came from his account. .


I wouldn't take a Breitbart screenshot as proof of anything. I think You're assuming way too much.

213 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:09:42pm

re: #205 JasonA

I'm guessing the only hack involved in this story goes by the name "Breitbart."

I'm thinking the guy is a genius

214 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:10:00pm

re: #211 marjoriemoon

That should be in the top 10 you know!

It would, but my butt doesn't look all that great in these...

215 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:10:22pm

re: #213 albusteve

I'm thinking the guy is a genius

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

216 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:10:28pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

I wouldn't take a Breitbart screenshot as proof of anything. I think You're assuming way too much.

Agreed, Breitfart it out for his own self promotion.

217 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:10:35pm

re: #202 marjoriemoon

Jeb Bush sucked, but in a very sad way, I'd take him now over Governor Skeletor.

Rubio will probably make a run for Pres in 2016. If no one finds him twittering his penis to college grads and he keeps clean, he'd probably be a good choice. He's got the first Hispanic thing going on and he's young and cute. Not all too teabaggy either. And no, I don't dig Rubio at all, but I can see that scenario.

Alan Grayson? I'll have to google.

You guys also had Mark Foley lol

Just look right here on LGF. He lied rather nastily about his opponent and put out a commercial that was a Breitbart-style hack-job.

218 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:10:56pm

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

Anthony Weiner KILLS At Congressional Correspondents' Dinner

[Video]Yup. Dude has some comedic chops.

Funny as hell. And his wife is beautiful.

Breitbart people, it's BREITBART.

219 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:11:09pm

re: #214 JasonA

It would, but my butt doesn't look all that great in these...

Get the custom jeans, your boonie will look great!

220 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:11:29pm

re: #204 ausador

Uhm uhm huhm!

*Climbs up on soapbox*

Really? Because Dark has an opinion that isn't popular now you are going to harass his ass more than 100 posts past the last time he commented? Shame on you.

I happen to like Dark and respect him, besides which also I don't like lynch mobs, if you have a problem with a comment then say so then and get it off your chest then. Preferably to the person who made the comment.

Trading insults between yourselves back and forth about someones post while failing to address them directly makes you different than the stalker blog how? :p

Back the fuck off and act like adults, every time someone disagrees with the commonly held wisdom here doesn't mean that they should be assaulted for hundreds of posts. This place is going to become really fucking boring when there are nothing but "yes men" here, don't you think?

I thought the majority of the people here were smart enough to avoid "Yeah me too!!11!" posts but now I am starting to wonder if I was correct. :(

*steps down from soapbox*

Thank you, sir.

221 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:11:43pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

I wouldn't take a Breitbart screenshot as proof of anything. I think You're assuming way too much.

It came from his account. Weiner has never denied that portion.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

New York Congressman Anthony Weiner has hired a lawyer to investigate what steps to take regarding a lewd photo of a male crotch he claims was sent from his hacked Twitter account.

Pictures: Anthony Weiner lewd photo flap on Twitter

His spokesman, Dave Arnold, told the Associated Press that the Democrat believes it was a prank. But he's retained a lawyer to advise him on what civil or criminal actions should be taken.

222 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:12:07pm

re: #216 Floral Giraffe

Agreed, Breitfart it out for his own self promotion.

he's not stupid then...it leads to money and power...
btw, did you dig the Lady Gaga concert?

223 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:12:09pm

Speaking of mocking, I would love to see Weiner go on The Daily Show tonight and mock Breitbart and those within the media who believe anything the man says or posts.
That would be a thing of beauty....

224 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:12:46pm

re: #216 Floral Giraffe

Agreed, Breitfart it out for his own self promotion.

Given his history I think it's a safe assumption it's fake. ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Shirley Sharrod, etc, ,all fake stories based on doctored evidence. I see no reason to believe this is any different.

225 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:12:53pm

Anthony Weiner is being attacked by the right wing because he's an effective voice for the Democratic Party -- and especially because he's calling on Clarence Thomas to recuse himself from voting on health care.

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.

226 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:13:14pm

re: #222 albusteve

I had a week off the intertubes.
Was Lady Gaga awesome?
She's very talented!

227 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:13:32pm

re: #223 webevintage

Speaking of mocking, I would love to see Weiner go on The Daily Show tonight and mock Breitbart and those within the media who believe anything the man says or posts.
That would be a thing of beauty...

except that so few people know who AB is....we live in a small world here on the net

228 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:13:42pm

re: #223 webevintage

Speaking of mocking, I would love to see Weiner go on The Daily Show tonight and mock Breitbart and those within the media who believe anything the man says or posts.
That would be a thing of beauty...

I've been wondering if Stewart would even touch this. From what I understand they're old friends, I'm certain he's going to give him shit for years..in private. If he were my friend I certainly would but I wouldn't do it on TV for the world to see. This could cost the man his marriage.

229 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:13:58pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Given his history I think it's a safe assumption it's fake. ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Shirley Sharrod, etc, ,all fake stories based on doctored evidence. I see no reason to believe this is any different.

No, no, no! We're supposed to completely forget about Andrew Breibart's history of fraud whenever he comes up with a new fraud. Come on, get with the game.

230 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:14:51pm

re: #229 Charles

No, no, no! We're supposed to completely forget about Andrew Breibart's history of fraud whenever he comes up with a new fraud. Come on, get with the game.

WHAT!
Criminals repeat bad behaviors!
OH NOOOO!

231 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:14:55pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Given his history I think it's a safe assumption it's fake. ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Shirley Sharrod, etc, ,all fake stories based on doctored evidence. I see no reason to believe this is any different.

I'd be more willing to speculate that it might be real if not for the happy presence of Mr. Breitbart.

I know he hangs around with people who lie, cheat, and break and enter to get him the results he needs.

It makes it very hard for me to find it believable when he pops up telling me that a Democrat is sending pictures of himself in his scanties around the Web.

232 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:15:45pm

re: #225 Charles

Anthony Weiner is being attacked by the right wing because he's an effective voice for the Democratic Party -- and especially because he's calling on Clarence Thomas to recuse himself from voting on health care.

This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Which Thomas will not do, nor should he. He's not required to recuse himself because of where his wife worked and he never lied about it. Weiner is trying to get rid of a conservative vote that is sure to go against Obamacare. Not that I blame him, since if the sides were reversed I'd do the same thing.

233 zora  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:16:04pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

Funny as hell. And his wife is beautiful.

Breitbart people, it's BREITBART.

Weiner-Abedin wedded bliss

Here is a photo from the Rep. Anthony Weiner-Huma Abedin wedding

[Link: www.politico.com...]

234 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:16:31pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

235 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:16:58pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

He may not have lied about it, but he failed to disclose it for years and years and years.

Under what circumstances should someone recuse themselves, if not that money in their household came from directly opposing that same bill?

236 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:17:18pm

re: #230 Floral Giraffe

WHAT!
Criminals repeat bad behaviors!
OH NOOO!

Oh, yes. See here for an especially bad case that would make for a good episode of Criminal Minds.

237 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:17:35pm

re: #130 Renaissance_Man

(cut)

The real reason such a scenario is impossible is that the most powerful element in the USA is the media. And the media war has been won, by the aforementioned insane cult. This means that a significant plurality of the populace will never support governing that actually benefits the citizens of the USA at the expense of those that control the wealth. It's a shame, but it is the truth.

While your post, overall, deserves frank discussion, I must respectfully disagree with this point (yes, I'm a Democrat). The Media is most definitely NOT the most powerful element in the USA. The most powerful element are multinational corporations, folks like the Kochs, and foundations like John Mellon Scaife's, that *influence* the media.

Companies with a vested interest in keeping the US populace dumb as rocks fund the groups that the media needs to maintain ratings. It's incestuous. It's evil. It results in Policy that screws the majority of working people while convincing them that it is in their best interest to believe the crap that is being shit upon them. It is modern American politics.

238 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:17:47pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Which Thomas will not do, nor should he. He's not required to recuse himself because of where his wife worked and he never lied about it. Weiner is trying to get rid of a conservative vote that is sure to go against Obamacare. Not that I blame him, since if the sides were reversed I'd do the same thing.

His family directly benefits from the very organizations he's being asked to make a ruling about.

Yes, he absolutely SHOULD recuse himself, and if he won't there should be hell to pay.

239 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:17:57pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Which Thomas will not do, nor should he. He's not required to recuse himself because of where his wife worked and he never lied about it. Weiner is trying to get rid of a conservative vote that is sure to go against Obamacare. Not that I blame him, since if the sides were reversed I'd do the same thing.

Umm... didn't he at least preform a lie of omission about it by not registering the money that she was making being a healthcare representative?

240 Renaissance_Man  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:18:00pm

re: #194 marjoriemoon

But I don't see that that's true, they are unfit to lead. Why are they unfit? Because Obama squandered opportunities? Or we just like social programs.

Like I say, better on the back burner than bad law.

Of course. The Republican Party is neither a party nor an alternative to government.

However, the momentum following 2008 was, without exaggeration, historic. The Presidency, the Senate, and the House, all controlled by one party. This was the moment, as it were. And instead, nothing. No bold leadership on alternative energy. No sea change in the approach towards climate change. A watered down health care bill that, while welcome, does not significantly address the very serious problem of medical costs. But even that I can forgive - I can weep for lost opportunities, but demanding excellent statesmanship is a high bar.

What I can't forgive is the failure to do even basic functions of government like passing a budget, and filling nominated posts. Seriously? Not passing a budget? Yes, Republicans will obstruct and block. That's because they are a bizarre cult. You simply cannot allow the actions of an insane cult to hold up the function of the government of the world's only superpower. You have the Presidency, the biggest bully pulpit in the world. You have the Senate. Use them, and get something done.

241 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:19:02pm

re: #221 RogueOne

It came from his account. Weiner has never denied that portion.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

His spokesman, Dave Arnold, told the Associated Press that the Democrat believes it was a prank. But he's retained a lawyer to advise him on what civil or criminal actions should be taken.

He still hasn't called the cops or the FBI and filed a complaint...But he did call a lawyer...Makes me wonder and I don't know why...Powerful men in politics never hit on young girls
/Bill Clinton made me put the sarc tag on this post

242 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:19:03pm

re: #231 SanFranciscoZionist

I'd be more willing to speculate that it might be real if not for the happy presence of Mr. Breitbart.

I know he hangs around with people who lie, cheat, and break and enter to get him the results he needs.

It makes it very hard for me to find it believable when he pops up telling me that a Democrat is sending pictures of himself in his scanties around the Web.

yet, look what it's come to....these fuckers are slowly dominating issues, promoting conflict, making good money and don't have to answer to anyone...what a gig

243 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:19:20pm

re: #228 RogueOne

I've been wondering if Stewart would even touch this. From what I understand they're old friends, I'm certain he's going to give him shit for years..in private. If he were my friend I certainly would but I wouldn't do it on TV for the world to see. This could cost the man his marriage.

I can't see why it could cost him his marriage since it is not true.
It did not happen.
This is a made up internet scandal.
I agree with Charles that this has a lot to do with AW going after Thomas not recusing himself from rulings that directly affect his family's income.

244 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:19:31pm

re: #235 Obdicut

He may not have lied about it, but he failed to disclose it for years and years and years.

Under what circumstances should someone recuse themselves, if not that money in their household came from directly opposing that same bill?

I'm not interested in a uniform rule. This is something I'd support or oppose based on who it was and which side they were on. This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

245 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:19:59pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

I'm not interested in a uniform rule. This is something I'd support or oppose based on who it was and which side they were on. This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

Imagine my surprise.

246 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:20:06pm

Breitbart is "the boy who cried wolf" one too many times. It would take some extraordinary evidence for me to accept any claims made by him or his associates.

247 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:20:21pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

I'm not interested in a uniform rule. This is something I'd support or oppose based on who it was and which side they were on. This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

Well, that's really shitty of you.

248 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:20:53pm

re: #238 Charles

His family directly benefits from the very organizations he's being asked to make a ruling about.

Yes, he absolutely SHOULD recuse himself, and if he won't there should be hell to pay.

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

249 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:21:19pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

I'm not interested in a uniform rule. This is something I'd support or oppose based on who it was and which side they were on. This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

Dark, you shouldn't have any of those "points."

Its a moral failing if we ever allow what we want to happen to blind us towards what is fair/right....

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:21:33pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

I'm not interested in a uniform rule. This is something I'd support or oppose based on who it was and which side they were on. This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

Dark, as always, points for raw honesty, but if there's no general uniform code of ethics for the SCOTUS...well, frankly, the way things are these days, we can't expect them to use any sort of common sense, especially if it might cost their team anything. And yes, the SCOTUS has teams these days, alas.

251 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:21:37pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

wow....

252 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:22:03pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Fine. Then you don't get to ever complain about corrupt politics again, since you endorse corruption in politics.

Deal?

253 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:22:10pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

Well, that certainly tells us where you stand.

254 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:22:11pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

How far would you be willing to go to take down Obamacare and what do you find so objectionable about it Dark?

255 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:22:15pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

I really wish you hadn't have said that

256 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:22:31pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

That's pretty much the definition of "unethical."

257 bratwurst  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:22:33pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

So the ends justify the means, huh?

258 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:22:56pm

re: #241 HoosierHoops

Hey, Did you have fun at the Indy Races?
*smooch*

259 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:23:01pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

Really now? Corrupt politics is just fine with you as long as it's Republicans being corrupt?

Have you lost your mind?

260 jaunte  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:23:06pm

Anderson Cooper still hashing out Weinergate. I like the Congressman better just for calling that reporter a jackass.

261 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:23:16pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

Dark, as always, points for raw honesty, but if there's no general uniform code of ethics for the SCOTUS...well, frankly, the way things are these days, we can't expect them to use any sort of common sense, especially if it might cost their team anything. And yes, the SCOTUS has teams these days, alas.

And please remember that you and I might conceivably live to see as liberal a court as there is currently a conservative one.

262 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:24:21pm

whoa

263 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:24:41pm

re: #233 zora

Weiner-Abedin wedded bliss

Here is a photo from the Rep. Anthony Weiner-Huma Abedin wedding

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Oh yes!!! I remember now, Bill Clinton officiated!

Fuck Breitbart's smears and the media that doesn't investigate.

Remember Rep. Weiner's twitter when it happened? "What next? My blender goes after me? #TheToasterIsLoyal"

264 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:25:09pm

re: #255 albusteve

I really wish you hadn't have said that

Me too. But to just stand back and lose on something that big is too much for me. I'd feel I was letting a disaster happen and it would be deeply humiliating. I try not to be dishonest but this whole Thomas issue strikes me as a demand that conservatives just throw in the towel. The only way to overturn the law is with his vote.

265 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:25:23pm

re: #258 Floral Giraffe

Hey, Did you have fun at the Indy Races?
*smooch*

Didn't make it to Indy this year...Bummed out but things just didn't work out

266 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:25:40pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

I'm going to come right out and call that un-American.

267 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:25:43pm

re: #243 webevintage

I can't see why it could cost him his marriage since it is not true.
It did not happen.
This is a made up internet scandal.
I agree with Charles that this has a lot to do with AW going after Thomas not recusing himself from rulings that directly affect his family's income.

What didn't happen? The pic was sent there isn't any doubt to that. Weiner not only doesn't deny it his claim is it was sent from his "hacked" account.

268 TedStriker  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:26:10pm

re: #232 Dark_Falcon

Which Thomas will not do, nor should he. He's not required to recuse himself because of where his wife worked and he never lied about it. Weiner is trying to get rid of a conservative vote that is sure to go against Obamacare. Not that I blame him, since if the sides were reversed I'd do the same thing.

That argument is BS and you know it; if this were about a lower court judge (local, state, or federal) presiding over a case involving an industry in which their spouse (and, by extension, themselves) had a direct financial stake in, there'd be righteous calls for recusal.

Why is this any different, besides it involving Clarence Thomas and his wife?

/it's all about the appearance of impropriety

269 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:26:22pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

I like you, bro, but I definitely don't like that about you.

270 McSpiff  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:26:27pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

Uhhh, no. I'd rather us keep the rule of law than whatever pathetic party machine politics you seem to be advocating. I guess it is the chicago way...

271 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:26:28pm

re: #267 RogueOne

You don't really have a grip on the facts, Rogue. There's no claim that the picture was sent over twitter, but that a tweet with a link to a picture on the yfrog account was.

272 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:27:08pm

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Me too. But to just stand back and lose on something that big is too much for me. I'd feel I was letting a disaster happen and it would be deeply humiliating. I try not to be dishonest but this whole Thomas issue strikes me as a demand that conservatives just throw in the towel. The only way to overturn the law is with his vote.

Why do you want to overturn the law Dark?

273 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:27:10pm

re: #265 HoosierHoops

Didn't make it to Indy this year...Bummed out but things just didn't work out

Dang, I was going to wake you up, early!
LOL!

274 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:27:16pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

Oh my god. Don't ever bring up the rule of law and all that other bullshit.

Geeze.

275 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:27:49pm

re: #182 albusteve

heh...think about that for a half beat

I meant every stroke of the ... keyboard.

276 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:27:50pm

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Me too. But to just stand back and lose on something that big is too much for me. I'd feel I was letting a disaster happen and it would be deeply humiliating. I try not to be dishonest but this whole Thomas issue strikes me as a demand that conservatives just throw in the towel. The only way to overturn the law is with his vote.

nothing is forever...you either stand on principle and take the hit or you don't...life means knots on your head and bruised ribs sometimes and doing the right thing transcends politics

277 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:28:55pm

re: #271 Obdicut

You don't really have a grip on the facts, Rogue. There's no claim that the picture was sent over twitter, but that a tweet with a link to a picture on the yfrog account was.

a link to his yfrog account which was sent from his twitter account. Is this really that hard to understand?

278 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:29:43pm

We're finding out just how important it is for right wingers to gain power. They're willing to throw their ethics right out the window for it.

279 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:29:58pm

re: #277 RogueOne

a link to his yfrog account which was sent from his twitter account. Is this really that hard to understand?

No, since that's what I just said, Rogue. Why on earth do you think I don't understand something I just told you?

Why the hell are you falling for Brietbart yet again? Doesn't his past record of outright fraud bother you at all?

280 McSpiff  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:30:22pm

re: #264 Dark_Falcon

Me too. But to just stand back and lose on something that big is too much for me. I'd feel I was letting a disaster happen and it would be deeply humiliating. I try not to be dishonest but this whole Thomas issue strikes me as a demand that conservatives just throw in the towel. The only way to overturn the law is with his vote.

Right, you lost elections. So bills you don't like get passed. It sucks, but its suppose to taste like a shit taco. Throwing out an impartial judiciary ain't the solution. If the law is unconstitutional, it should fall. If it isn't it should remain the law of the land unless its repealed by the legislature.

Anything else is literally throwing out centuries of hard fought rights. People died to make sure what you're saying never happens. Reflect on memorial day or something.

281 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:30:24pm

And yeah, this is me, being disgusted.

282 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:30:46pm

re: #277 RogueOne

a link to his yfrog account which was sent from his twitter account. Is this really that hard to understand?

And yet no one has screenshots of the original tweet. Just a screenshot of what was allegedly at the yfrog link. Think about that for a moment.

283 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:30:57pm

I think it's good that Dark Falcon is able to articulate his points of view, even if many Lizards differ with it, including Charles. DF has been a Lizard for a while, and has, IMHO always been polite. The politeness should be returned.

284 TedStriker  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:30:58pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

I'm not interested in a uniform rule. This is something I'd support or oppose based on who it was and which side they were on. This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

For shame, Dark, for shame...

It's come down to Party Uber Alles, huh? I thought you had more guts and integrity than that, man. I really am disappointed in you, but no one can tell you which road to choose, even if it is the wrong one.

285 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:31:35pm

re: #283 Floral Giraffe

I think the person who said that they like him, but don't like that about him, said it best.

286 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:32:09pm

re: #283 Floral Giraffe

I think it's good that Dark Falcon is able to articulate his points of view, even if many Lizards differ with it, including Charles. DF has been a Lizard for a while, and has, IMHO always been polite. The politeness should be returned.

I understand why you feel that way, Flo, but this is the same guy who spits on "Chicago politics." It's blatant hypocrisy.

287 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:32:12pm

re: #278 Charles

We're finding out just how important it is for right wingers to gain power. They're willing to throw their ethics right out the window for it.

It's all about their messages from 'g-d'.
Or what they heard, anyway...

288 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:32:47pm

re: #279 Obdicut

No, since that's what I just said, Rogue. Why on earth do you think I don't understand something I just told you?

Why the hell are you falling for Brietbart yet again? Doesn't his past record of outright fraud bother you at all?

I'm sorry but you must be misunderstanding something somewhere that I'm not getting. Are you trying to say the link wasn't sent from his twitter account or that the pic wasn't on his yfrog account? If so then you're stepping out further than weiner has since he isn't making either accusation. If both those statements are true then there is only one question, was the account hacked or not?

289 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:33:01pm

re: #283 Floral Giraffe

I think it's good that Dark Falcon is able to articulate his points of view, even if many Lizards differ with it, including Charles. DF has been a Lizard for a while, and has, IMHO always been polite. The politeness should be returned.

politeness is seconary

290 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:33:02pm

re: #283 Floral Giraffe

I think it's good that Dark Falcon is able to articulate his points of view, even if many Lizards differ with it, including Charles. DF has been a Lizard for a while, and has, IMHO always been polite. The politeness should be returned.

This. And frankly, I cut DF some slack (not much but some) at moments like this for admitting that he's guided by a desire to win.

We've had too many folks around here who insist that they're being perfectly impartial when they ain't.

291 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:33:22pm

re: #282 JasonA

And yet no one has screenshots of the original tweet. Just a screenshot of what was allegedly at the yfrog link. Think about that for a moment.

Has weiner denied they came from his accounts? No. In fact he's said they did come from his account but that it was hacked.

292 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:33:36pm

re: #278 Charles

We're finding out just how important it is for right wingers to gain power. They're willing to throw their ethics right out the window for it.

It's more that I hate to lose. It wounds me greatly. And I admit that effects my judgement. I try to play the game honestly, but this is very hard for me.

re: #272 jamesfirecat

Why do you want to overturn the law Dark?

Because I think its a major overreach on the Commerce Clause and I think that clause badly misused in any case.

293 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:33:50pm

re: #290 SanFranciscoZionist

This. And frankly, I cut DF some slack (not much but some) at moments like this for admitting that he's guided by a desire to win.

We've had too many folks around here who insist that they're being perfectly impartial when they ain't.

Thank you.

294 andres  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:34:18pm

re: #107 austin_blue

Slow it down, ¿viva España?

295 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:35:06pm

re: #161 albusteve

I have never seen a guy play the slide as fast as Derrick Trucks

Fast is good, but being killer bee in concert better. Behold: one of the ten best live bands in the history of rock and roll-

Youtube Video
Youtube Video

And yes, that is a Craftsman 9/19" socket wrench.

296 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:35:07pm

re: #288 RogueOne

I'm sorry but you must be misunderstanding something somewhere that I'm not getting. Are you trying to say the link wasn't sent from his twitter account or that the pic wasn't on his yfrog account?

no, since that's what I just said-- though there's no actual proof the tweet was sent, it seems to have been. Probably.

If both those statements are true then there is only one question, was the account hacked or not?

Yeah. And for some reason you believe Breitbart.

Why?

297 Charles Johnson  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:36:45pm

In a way, the last three years have been the story of Republicans and the right wing completely abandoning any pretense at ethical behavior, in a naked lust for political power.

The right has lost its ethical moorings, and will now lie, cheat, steal, smear, and libel anyone if they think it will get them the control they crave.

298 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:36:49pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

It's more that I hate to lose. It wounds me greatly. And I admit that effects my judgement. I try to play the game honestly, but this is very hard for me.

re: #272 jamesfirecat

Because I think its a major overreach on the Commerce Clause and I think that clause badly misused in any case.

What part of it do you think is the overreach exactly?

The mandate or some other part?

299 TedStriker  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:37:09pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

It's more that I hate to lose. It wounds me greatly. And I admit that effects my judgement. I try to play the game honestly, but this is very hard for me.

re: #272 jamesfirecat

Because I think its a major overreach on the Commerce Clause and I think that clause badly misused in any case.

Then let the SCOTUS, minus Thomas (who has a vested, long-undisclosed link to the healthcare industry, via his wife), decided whether the law is unconstitutional. I would expect Thomas to recuse himself in healthcare industry matters, just as I would expect a lower court judge to do so on matters in which there is a clear conflict-of-interest.

300 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:37:41pm

I just do not believe, for one minute, that Anthony Weiner sent a picture of his erect penis (granted in undies) to a woman in college who once tweeted that he was her "boyfriend" which seems to have something to do with why that ring-wing nut (not AB) began stalking her in the first place.

I've said it on Twitter, so it must be so....Robert Downey Jr. is my husband...I called him, no one else gets him and Benedict Cumberbatch is my boy toy.
Hands off ladies.

301 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:38:03pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

It's more that I hate to lose. It wounds me greatly. And I admit that effects my judgement. I try to play the game honestly, but this is very hard for me.

re: #272 jamesfirecat

Because I think its a major overreach on the Commerce Clause and I think that clause badly misused in any case.

Also Dark... you have nothing but pity from me that you see the idea of millions of Americans being able to afford health insurance as you losing.

302 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:38:08pm

re: #295 austin_blue

Fast is good, but being killer bee in concert better. Behold: one of the ten best live bands in the history of rock and roll-

[Video]And yes, that is a Craftsman 9/19" socket wrench.

what?...I've seen them maybe close to a hundred times...
always a good riff....the best live show ever

303 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:39:19pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

That really disappoints me, DF. If nothing else, I would think you'd be aware of the precedent that was being set that could then be used against something you want later on? If we can't have a consistant ethical standard for those who are supposed to be the arbiters of justice, then where, pray tell, do we have one? Or shall we simply say that situational ethics is fine for the judiciary and that only those with sufficient cash on the barrel head are deserving of gaining their result and that justice no longer applies?

304 Renaissance_Man  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:40:39pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

It's more that I hate to lose. It wounds me greatly. And I admit that effects my judgement. I try to play the game honestly, but this is very hard for me.

I think many of us are grateful that you will never reach a position of power, since you consider governing to be a game, and where winning this game is so important that laws should be discarded to do so.

305 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:40:59pm

re: #229 Charles

No, no, no! We're supposed to completely forget about Andrew Breibart's history of fraud whenever he comes up with a new fraud. Come on, get with the game.

But...but...he was on CNN!

306 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:41:03pm

re: #300 webevintage

I just do not believe, for one minute, that Anthony Weiner sent a picture of his erect penis (granted in undies) to a woman in college who once tweeted that he was her "boyfriend" which seems to have something to do with why that ring-wing nut (not AB) began stalking her in the first place.

I've said it on Twitter, so it must be so...Robert Downey Jr. is my husband...I called him, no one else gets him and Benedict Cumberbatch is my boy toy.
Hands off ladies.

Oh how you have me looking at Cumberbatch. LOL

307 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:41:08pm

re: #296 Obdicut

no, since that's what I just said-- though there's no actual proof the tweet was sent, it seems to have been. Probably.

Yeah. And for some reason you believe Breitbart.

Why?

That's the thing. I don't find it beyond the realm of the possible that a politician accidentally sent around a picture of himself in his underoos, although I have to admit that I find it awful convenient that he sent a picture of himself that includes no face, or hand, or anything that can conveniently be indentified. (Heck, if it was the bare Weiner, his wife would be able to look at it and say, "Nope.")

What I do find almost impossible is that Breitbart is telling the truth.

308 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:41:08pm

re: #296 Obdicut

no, since that's what I just said-- though there's no actual proof the tweet was sent, it seems to have been. Probably.

Yeah. And for some reason you believe Breitbart.

Why?

I don't have to believe breitbart if I semi-believe weiner. I believe that link and that pic came from his accounts because he says they did.

This is another story of a married man acting like an idiot when show attention by an attractive younger woman. This isn't anything new, it's happened before, and it's going to continue to happen again until the earth is sucked into the sun.

309 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:41:44pm

re: #301 jamesfirecat

Also Dark... you have nothing but pity from me that you see the idea of millions of Americans being able to afford health insurance as you losing.

fine...chill

310 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:41:52pm

re: #300 webevintage

I just do not believe, for one minute, that Anthony Weiner sent a picture of his erect penis (granted in undies) to a woman in college who once tweeted that he was her "boyfriend" which seems to have something to do with why that ring-wing nut (not AB) began stalking her in the first place.

I've said it on Twitter, so it must be so...Robert Downey Jr. is my husband...I called him, no one else gets him and Benedict Cumberbatch is my boy toy.
Hands off ladies.

No no no. He didn't send it to her. The story is that he meant to send it to her but mistakenly tweeted it to the whole twitterverse.

311 jaunte  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:42:00pm

re: #300 webevintage

I just do not believe, for one minute, that Anthony Weiner sent a picture of his erect penis (granted in undies) to a woman in college who once tweeted that he was her "boyfriend" which seems to have something to do with why that ring-wing nut (not AB) began stalking her in the first place.


Throw in Breitbart, and the story breaking with time to percolate over a three day weekend, and the odds become staggeringly high against it being true.

312 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:42:02pm

re: #240 Renaissance_Man

Of course. The Republican Party is neither a party nor an alternative to government.

However, the momentum following 2008 was, without exaggeration, historic. The Presidency, the Senate, and the House, all controlled by one party. This was the moment, as it were. And instead, nothing. No bold leadership on alternative energy. No sea change in the approach towards climate change. A watered down health care bill that, while welcome, does not significantly address the very serious problem of medical costs. But even that I can forgive - I can weep for lost opportunities, but demanding excellent statesmanship is a high bar.

What I can't forgive is the failure to do even basic functions of government like passing a budget, and filling nominated posts. Seriously? Not passing a budget? Yes, Republicans will obstruct and block. That's because they are a bizarre cult. You simply cannot allow the actions of an insane cult to hold up the function of the government of the world's only superpower. You have the Presidency, the biggest bully pulpit in the world. You have the Senate. Use them, and get something done.

Yea that wasn't good. I was pissed at that, too.

Obama was a little green. how I read it. Had he been a little bit more of a seasoned politician, it probably would have looked different. In fact, Bill Clinton made a very public statement a few months after Obama won that since he had the Senate, he needed to make good work of it because he can always lose it. He was talking from experience, of course.

But he's grown now, Obama, and I think is a different man that he was 3 years ago. Much stronger and more decisive. A stronger man to get his ideas put through. I have no problems betting on that.

313 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:42:20pm

re: #308 RogueOne

I don't have to believe breitbart if I semi-believe weiner. I believe that link and that pic came from his accounts because he says they did.

Yes, you are believing Brietbart if you're immediately dismissing the idea of a hack or photoshop job. I understand you probably don't want to admit you're buying into Brietbart, but that's exactly what you're doing.

So, why are you?

314 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:42:31pm

re: #310 JasonA

No no no. He didn't send it to her. The story is that he meant to send it to her but mistakenly tweeted it to the whole twitterverse.

It's hard to text with only one hand....


and with that I'm missing the second half. Enjoy the game people!

315 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:42:38pm

re: #302 albusteve

Hey Steve, here's a cool (loosely) sports related story for ya.

316 goddamnedfrank  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:42:48pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

It's more that I hate to lose. It wounds me greatly. And I admit that effects my judgement. I try to play the game honestly, but this is very hard for me.

LOL @ "it wounds me greatly." Of course it doesn't really wound you at all, you're just embracing sore loserdom as an entrenched, immutable personality trait. Get the hell over it.

317 RogueOne  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:43:01pm

re: #313 Obdicut

Yes, you are believing Brietbart if you're immediately dismissing the idea of a hack or photoshop job. I understand you probably don't want to admit you're buying into Brietbart, but that's exactly what you're doing.

So, why are you?

Did weiner say they came from his accounts? Yes he did. Why do you think weiner is lying?

318 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:43:10pm

re: #310 JasonA

No no no. He didn't send it to her. The story is that he meant to send it to her but mistakenly tweeted it to the whole twitterverse.

They fucking trolled his followers. I didn't make the cut. Am pissed.

Can you imagine if I was part of a smear? THAT would be a win for me!

319 ProMayaLiberal  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:43:28pm

To those who want to Repeal Obamacare, a question. What happens to those pre-conditions? Do we just rot while the Republicans do nothing.

I can be far more vicious than most here. I'm not entirely above character assassination.

320 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:44:04pm

re: #317 RogueOne

Did weiner say they came from his accounts? Yes he did. Why do you think weiner is lying?

*head desk*

321 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:44:07pm

re: #318 Stanley Sea

They fucking trolled his followers. I didn't make the cut. Am pissed.

Can you imagine if I was part of a smear? THAT would be a win for me!

Careful what you wish for...

322 makeitstop  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:44:20pm

re: #161 albusteve

I have never seen a guy play the slide as fast as Derrick Trucks

I like that he moves the style off the Duane Allman / Joe Walsh tip and goes for more melodically advanced stuff. Elements of Duane are there, but he goes for more of a global feel (heavy Eastern influence) rather than straight-up 'blues slide.' He's definitely moved the form forward with his style.

323 TedStriker  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:44:31pm

re: #299 talon_262

And, make no mistake, Dark...the "ObamaCare" bill going before the SCOTUS for constitutional review and Thomas being involved is a prime example of why there is conflict-of-interest laws and judicial oversight.

324 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:44:40pm

re: #317 RogueOne

Did weiner say they came from his accounts? Yes he did. Why do you think weiner is lying?

I think you broke down or something.

You're the one who's saying that Weiner is lying about the hack. You're believing Brietbart.

And refusing to explain your logic, beyond "Guys are dumb sometimes".

This is beyond your normal level of credulity.

325 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:45:28pm

re: #306 Stanley Sea

Oh how you have me looking at Cumberbatch. LOL

you're welcome...

326 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:45:37pm

re: #321 JasonA

Careful what you wish for...

Internet fame. Good Morning America. Kardashian million dollar rings.

That's where my ethics lie.

/kidding.

327 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:45:49pm

re: #244 Dark_Falcon

I'm not interested in a uniform rule. This is something I'd support or oppose based on who it was and which side they were on. This is one of those points on which my views are governed almost solely by partisanship.

Dark, you need to back away from the emotion once in a while.
Loyalty has its place, but policies should be considered for their likely outcome, not for how the messenger makes you feel.

328 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:45:50pm

re: #317 RogueOne

Did weiner say they came from his accounts? Yes he did. Why do you think weiner is lying?

Can't he just be wrong?

329 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:46:50pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

Wow, DF, I'm generally supportive of a Loyal Opposition, but that's just not right.

330 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:46:53pm

re: #315 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey Steve, here's a cool (loosely) sports related story for ya.

yeah, I love that sort of stuff...the brighter side of pro sports is boring tho...the NFL and it's players spend a ton of money on kids and the other sports as well...but football is far and away the most generous...it's all good

331 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:46:55pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

There won't be. There is no way to pressure him and conservatives are sure to support him. I'd rather a tainted takedown of Obamacare than let it into law.

Why?

What are your reasons for disliking Obama's health initiatives?

332 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:47:15pm

I hate it when I do this. I react emotionally and personalize something I shouldn't. It leaves me in a bad place and burns bridges. I've learned not to do it at work but sometimes I still do it at home.

It's the damn bunker mentality at work again, with fear of things closing in leaving me stressed even when I should not worry as much as I do. The way I wound up is worthy of a Downfall parody.

/mostly kidding with that last line.

333 Obdicut  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:48:48pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

I'm glad you hate it, but there's gotta be some way you can get on top of this. It ain't healthy to declare that you're fine with corruption in politics-- especially when you often take a principled stand against corruption in politics.

334 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:48:55pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

I hate it when I do this. I react emotionally and personalize something I shouldn't. It leaves me in a bad place and burns bridges. I've learned not to do it at work but sometimes I still do it at home.

It's the damn bunker mentality at work again, with fear of things closing in leaving me stressed even when I should not worry as much as I do. The way I wound up is worthy of a Downfall parody.

/mostly kidding with that last line.

You know, Dark, it doesn't have to be "us against them." We are all in this country together.

335 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:49:00pm

re: #316 goddamnedfrank

LOL @ "it wounds me greatly." Of course it doesn't really wound you at all, you're just embracing sore loserdom as an entrenched, immutable personality trait. Get the hell over it.

like in sports when people say "my Cowboys...or my Yankees".....my republicans, my dancer, my Idol
hurl me

336 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:49:16pm

re: #318 Stanley Sea

Can you imagine if I was part of a smear? THAT would be a win for me!

I've got some left over hummus. You can come kick it with me and have a few brews if you want to be a part of that smear.

337 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:49:27pm

re: #265 HoosierHoops

Didn't make it to Indy this year...Bummed out but things just didn't work out

Great finish to the race, as always.

338 jamesfirecat  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:49:56pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

I hate it when I do this. I react emotionally and personalize something I shouldn't. It leaves me in a bad place and burns bridges. I've learned not to do it at work but sometimes I still do it at home.

It's the damn bunker mentality at work again, with fear of things closing in leaving me stressed even when I should not worry as much as I do. The way I wound up is worthy of a Downfall parody.

/mostly kidding with that last line.

Dark this is your assignment for today.

Read this trope and reflect.

339 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:50:41pm

Fox News hacked (sorta) -

Youtube Video

Hello

Last night I hacked into the FoxNews news ticker on 6th avenue in NYC.

Here's the video. If you'd like to know why, just read the message in the hack.

I accessed the Fox ticker basically to get your attention. Also because Fox deserves it: they're the 24/7 mouthpiece of the right wing. They are huge perpetuators of the big lie.

This country isn't broke. Question is: where is the money going?

Americans have a right to know their pockets are being fleeced by corporations and tax breaks for the ultra-wealthy and we can no longer tolerate the deceit FoxNews is perpetuating.

For the record, I am not connected to Anonymous or any of the recent attacks on the PSN, PBS, Nasdaq or So-net.

We are being lied to and you cannot stop Americans from fighting for the truth. Sorry my friend is somewhat annoyingly enthusiastic in the video but it's one of the best hacks in recent memory so cut her a break.

For those who think this is fake and that the sign can not play color. [Link: bit.ly...]

340 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:50:48pm

re: #267 RogueOne

What didn't happen? The pic was sent there isn't any doubt to that. Weiner not only doesn't deny it his claim is it was sent from his "hacked" account.

He may believe it came from his account for the same reasons other do, but there is some evidence it was shopped to look like it came from his account.

341 albusteve  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:51:00pm

re: #334 JasonA

You know, Dark, it doesn't have to be "us against them." We are all in this country together.

precisely
one nest

342 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:51:25pm

Please, have you seen this? Rockefeller Center . The Fox New's crawl was hacked & the people filmed it. Oh and the nice ass of a female begins it. (make you look! - for real)

You are being lied to!

Go Democrats!

Youtube Video
343 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:51:36pm

re: #271 Obdicut

You don't really have a grip on the facts, Rogue. There's no claim that the picture was sent over twitter, but that a tweet with a link to a picture on the yfrog account was.

Surprised?

344 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:52:57pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

You don't have to take those positions, DF. You're a kind-hearted dude. There's room on our team for you. We're very nice, really. And we have cake.

345 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:53:10pm

re: #339 negativ

Fox News hacked (sorta) -

[Video]

lol gmta and all that!

346 What, me worry?  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:54:12pm

re: #300 webevintage

I just do not believe, for one minute, that Anthony Weiner sent a picture of his erect penis (granted in undies) to a woman in college who once tweeted that he was her "boyfriend" which seems to have something to do with why that ring-wing nut (not AB) began stalking her in the first place.

I've said it on Twitter, so it must be so...Robert Downey Jr. is my husband...I called him, no one else gets him and Benedict Cumberbatch is my boy toy.
Hands off ladies.

Let me know when you get the BVD shot from Downey, k?

347 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:54:20pm

re: #338 jamesfirecat

Dark this is your assignment for today.

Read this trope and reflect.

Hell, I already know that one:

Youtube Video

I just don't always do it right.

348 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:54:34pm

re: #344 marjoriemoon

THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!

349 Four More Tears  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:54:51pm

re: #342 Stanley Sea

Please, have you seen this? Rockefeller Center . The Fox New's crawl was hacked & the people filmed it. Oh and the nice ass of a female begins it. (make you look! - for real)

You are being lied to!

Go Democrats!

[Video]

I'm sorry, but I keep getting to the five second mark and rewinding. Anything interesting happen later...?

350 jaunte  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:55:01pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth

I think FBV got the cake.

351 webevintage  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:56:02pm

re: #346 marjoriemoon

Let me know when you get the BVD shot from Downey, k?

it's a deal.....

352 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:56:52pm

This getting the Nephew with a DUI back on the road thing is turning out to be rather more expensive than I thought. $1900 for a car, followed by $589.55 for title transfer, registration, tag. Then $157.50 to get the breathalyzer interlock device installed, plus 72.50 per month for inspection and log downloads for six months. Then $533.00 just to buy his drivers license back, and then, well then there is the insurance, nevermind the total, I'm embarressed to say how much that is going to cost for the six months.

I of course made it plain that this is absolutely it, whether he completes the six months or not, I'm done. He better not fuck this up or he wont be getting back on the road for quite a while if he has to pay it on his own dime. I'm rooting for him and he is a decent kid, just not sure he can keep it together for six months. :(

353 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:57:18pm

re: #259 Charles

Really now? Corrupt politics is just fine with you as long as it's Republicans being corrupt?

Have you lost your mind?

Please be gentle. He's not usually like this. Please?

354 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:57:35pm

re: #229 Charles

No, no, no! We're supposed to completely forget about Andrew Breibart's history of fraud whenever he comes up with a new fraud. Come on, get with the game.

Was that sarcasm?
/

355 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 7:58:38pm

re: #262 albusteve

whoa

Yup. Damn.

356 austin_blue  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:00:21pm

re: #294 andres

Slow it down, ¿viva España?

Hey, I loved the Champions League final!

357 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:01:38pm

re: #349 JasonA

I'm sorry, but I keep getting to the five second mark and rewinding. Anything interesting happen later...?

I had the same problem.

358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:02:12pm

re: #350 jaunte

There's cake?

359 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:05:02pm

re: #358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's a lie. :(

360 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:05:23pm

re: #358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There's cake?

That's nothing. Sarah Palin's got apple pie!

//

361 andres  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:07:12pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

It's more that I hate to lose. It wounds me greatly. And I admit that effects my judgement. I try to play the game honestly, but this is very hard for me.

If you look at politics like a game, it makes sense to have a hard time handling defeats. I think most people have trouble handling defeat (tho some can handle it better than others).

But politics isn't just any game: it's a game with life-or-death consequences that should not be treated lightly.

362 Stanghazi  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:07:18pm

re: #357 b_sharp

I had the same problem.

You saw the ass? Combined with the knowledge that Fox was punked. It's enough. I got tired of looking for a better vid.

363 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:07:37pm

re: #360 Dark_Falcon

That's nothing. Sarah Palin's got apple pie!

//

That's what her signature fragrance will smell like.

364 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:08:50pm

re: #362 Stanley Sea

You saw the ass? Combined with the knowledge that Fox was punked. It's enough. I got tired of looking for a better vid.

I followed that ass up the stairs 6 times.

365 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:10:49pm

re: #363 b_sharp

That's what her signature fragrance will smell like.

I thought it was supposed to be Bristol Bay Salmon. :D

366 b_sharp  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:12:46pm

re: #365 Dark_Falcon

I thought it was supposed to be Bristol Bay Salmon. :D

SMACK!

367 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, May 31, 2011 8:13:19pm

re: #300 webevintage

LOL!
Can I get second dibs on Robert Downey Jr.?

368 Usually refered to as anyways  Tue, May 31, 2011 9:08:50pm

re: #332 Dark_Falcon

I hate it when I do this. I react emotionally and personalize something I shouldn't. It leaves me in a bad place and burns bridges. I've learned not to do it at work but sometimes I still do it at home.

It's the damn bunker mentality at work again, with fear of things closing in leaving me stressed even when I should not worry as much as I do. The way I wound up is worthy of a Downfall parody.

/mostly kidding with that last line.

I like you Dark, you wear your heart on your sleeve.
I wanna nominate you as the LGF crazy uncle.


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