As of about 9:00 pm Pacific, yfrog.com has disabled posting pictures via MMS or email.
See:
The Idiot’s Guide to Hacking Yfrog
Documented Yfrog MMS Feature Made Framing Rep. Weiner Easy
Yfrog says, “No problems here! Everything’s fine!”
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ElCapitanAmerica Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:22:42pm |
They tried to hide the email, but was still in settings. This was their only option, feel better about showing my results for the generated emails now ...
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:24:47pm |
re: #1 ElCapitanAmerica
Are you still going to do a page on your results?
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albusteve Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:25:10pm |
I hope some blowback comes this a way...been following all day and people here deserve some credit
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ElCapitanAmerica Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:25:31pm |
re: #3 Bubblehead II
Are you still going to do a page on your results?
Yeah, writing it now. Although a bit irrelevant .... :-(
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:27:57pm |
re: #5 ElCapitanAmerica
Yeah, writing it now. Although a bit irrelevant ... :-(
Not at all. I'm sure there will be many people interested in your results...
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:28:10pm |
re: #5 ElCapitanAmerica
Yeah, writing it now. Although a bit irrelevant ... :-(
Not really. From a forensic point of view I think it would be interesting.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:31:12pm |
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:31:13pm |
re: #5 ElCapitanAmerica
Yeah, writing it now. Although a bit irrelevant ... :-(
I look forward to it. I never even looked into Yfrog or similar "features" before today.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:31:38pm |
repost from previous thread:
Good. They've got a serious security problem and you're right to call attention to it. That's probably part of the reason for the river of hate. The assholes can't stand the idea of "Mad King Charles" being right about something, so they go on a rage bender.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:32:49pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:33:15pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:33:19pm |
re: #5 ElCapitanAmerica
I think your post is still relevant!
Go for it!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:34:00pm |
re: #8 JasonA
Our recent search for problems to which we are institutionally oblivious turned up no evidence of problems to which we are institutionally oblivious.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:34:04pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:34:06pm |
re: #12 Charles
It does have disaster potential!
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:34:27pm |
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simoom Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:34:48pm |
So much for my secret wish that someone was going to use this on a FOX or CNN or BigGoverment personality.
Breitbart: I did not upload that image or tweet it, I swear! Be serious now -- no grown man would wear My Little Pony undies... surely you believe me?
Yes, I know it's wrong, but it would have felt so right! :P
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:35:28pm |
re: #5 ElCapitanAmerica
Yeah, writing it now. Although a bit irrelevant ... :-(
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:35:32pm |
re: #18 simoom
So much for my secret wish that someone was going to use this on a FOX or CNN or BigGoverment personality.
Yes, I know it's wrong, but it would have felt so right! :P
[snicker]
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:36:12pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:37:32pm |
re: #22 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The Throbbing Memo! Ah, brings back memories.
Yeah. 2004, best year of my life. So far, 2011 isn't all that bad but it could be better.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:38:22pm |
re: #12 Charles
Yep, they're running scared. They know this could be a real disaster for them.
Yeah, if this story breaks like this they're done, fixed or not. I think.
Now let's see what holes we can find in twitpic...
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Kragar Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:38:37pm |
re: #11 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
"There's no security holes, other than our users, of course..."
/
Every network is perfectly secure once you shut out all the damn users.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:39:22pm |
re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Every network is perfectly secure once you shut out all the damn users.
Works for preventing pregnancy too...
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:39:39pm |
re: #22 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The Throbbing Memo! Ah, brings back memories.
As they say: same shit, different day.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:40:47pm |
re: #27 negativ
As they say: same shit, different day.
When you're dealing with asshole haters, every day is Groundhog Day.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:40:53pm |
re: #27 negativ
As they say: same shit, different day.
Yeah, though if you check the same sites that were instrumental in debunking the Killian Memos, they're probably packed full of folks now who believe that Weiner is guilty as sin, despite bombshells like this.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:43:06pm |
re: #24 JasonA
Yeah, if this story breaks like this they're done, fixed or not. I think.
Now let's see what holes we can find in twitpic...
The Wingnuts will ignore it as well as the Major News organizations that ran with the story. I suspect the only People who will follow up on this will be the Tech Blogs.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:44:15pm |
re: #29 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, though if you check the same sites that were instrumental in debunking the Killian Memos, they're probably packed full of folks now who believe that Weiner is guilty as sin, despite bombshells like this.
There is a flip side to that, though: If you checked the archives of the sites now defending Weiner and trying to figure out what really happened, they were full of people who really wanted the Killian memos to be true and defended them even after Charles' expose. People tend to act differently when its their guy in the crosshairs.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:45:20pm |
re: #31 Dark_Falcon
There is a flip side to that, though: If you checked the archives of the sites now defending Weiner and trying to figure out what really happened, they were full of people who really wanted the Killian memos to be true and defended them even after Charles' expose. People tend to act differently when its their guy in the crosshairs.
Yeah, that was the first thing I thought as soon as I hit the "post" button. There always benefit of the doubt when it's your guy, but when it's the other guy, every word out of his mouth is a "lie."
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:46:13pm |
re: #30 Bubblehead II
The Wingnuts will ignore it as well as the Major News organizations that ran with the story. I suspect the only People who will follow up on this will be the Tech Blogs.
You sent a shiver down my spine as I considered for a moment that Breitbart may actually win this.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:46:37pm |
re: #29 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Confirmation Bias inspired by blind loyalty and unthinking partisanship. Don't like it.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:48:33pm |
re: #33 JasonA
You sent a shiver down my spine as I considered for a moment that Breitbart may actually win this.
He only "wins" if Weiner lets him. Otherwise, this "scandal" will burn out in a few days, as the media moves onto to the next "controversy du jour," and the only people paying attention will be the wingnut blogs.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:50:14pm |
Charles, would you please clarify the log ins & the log outs of the spy?
Or, is there a link? I'm getting confused, trying to follow friends.
TIA.
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ElCapitanAmerica Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:53:45pm |
yfrog's security "algorithm" ...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:54:00pm |
re: #33 JasonA
You sent a shiver down my spine as I considered for a moment that Breitbart may actually win this.
If by win, you mean he will once again walks away from this type of behavior without any repercussion, chances are he will.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:54:07pm |
re: #33 JasonA
You sent a shiver down my spine as I considered for a moment that Breitbart may actually win this.
He might. If it turns out the picture really is of Anthony Weiner, then Breitbart will win a partial victory. Weiner will look bad enough that he'll have to drop out of sight for a while. It's like Paris Hilton in this way: If you have a crotch shot or a sex tape and it gets out, it will be held against you, even if it was stolen from you. You'll look like a horndog (if male) or a slut (if female). Won't matter what you say; Once that shit stains you, you never get clean.
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abolitionist Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:56:17pm |
re: #14 negativ
Our recent search for problems to which we are institutionally oblivious turned up no evidence of problems to which we are institutionally oblivious.
I can assure you, with complete confidence, that we have no reason to suspect that our password security has been compromised..because we have none.
/spokesperson
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:56:39pm |
re: #39 Dark_Falcon
Once you are on the defensive, you never get off!
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:59:19pm |
re: #39 Dark_Falcon
He might. If it turns out the picture really is of Anthony Weiner, then Breitbart will win a partial victory. Weiner will look bad enough that he'll have to drop out of sight for a while. It's like Paris Hilton in this way: If you have a crotch shot or a sex tape and it gets out, it will be held against you, even if it was stolen from you. You'll look like a horndog (if male) or a slut (if female). Won't matter what you say; Once that shit stains you, you never get clean.
Hence the "uncertainty" bit, because so long as he neither confirms or denies, there's no "proof" that it's him in that picture. Short of the spammer stepping forward with "proof," which would be suicidally stupid of him/her, this story really has no fuel to it. The press can rant and rave a few days about being stonewalled, about how Weiner "seems" guilty, but absent any proof, it's a non-troversy that will be done and over with in a few days.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:59:23pm |
re: #39 Dark_Falcon
He might. If it turns out the picture really is of Anthony Weiner, then Breitbart will win a partial victory. Weiner will look bad enough that he'll have to drop out of sight for a while.
You're assuming in this scenario that if the picture is of him that means it was taken with his permission. He's stated that he has no recollection of the photograph.
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makeitstop Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:59:50pm |
re: #37 ElCapitanAmerica
yfrog's security "algorithm" ...
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Well done. You did yeoman's work today. Thank you.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:02:45pm |
re: #43 goddamnedfrank
You're assuming in this scenario that if the picture is of him that means it was taken with his permission. He's stated that he has no recollection of the photograph.
If its you, then permission won't matter. People won't care about permission, or they won't here that amid the loud voices calling you a 'liar!'.
BTW: I'm not saying I approve of such things, because I do not. This is just what I think happens in these sorts of cases.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:06:15pm |
Holy crap. Twitpic seems to work the exact same way...
Posting Media from Your Phone
Uploading via Email
Just send your photos or videos to:
(your twitter name).(four digit number)@twitpic.com
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ElCapitanAmerica Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:10:03pm |
re: #46 JasonA
Holy crap. Twitpic seems to work the exact same way...
Posting Media from Your Phone
Uploading via Email
Just send your photos or videos to:
(your twitter name).(four digit number)@twitpic.com
Incredible.
Do these guys employ no security people at all?!?!
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:10:30pm |
re: #45 Dark_Falcon
If its you, then permission won't matter. People won't care about permission, or they won't here that amid the loud voices calling you a 'liar!'.
BTW: I'm not saying I approve of such things, because I do not. This is just what I think happens in these sorts of cases.
Um, I'm sorry, but no, you're flat out goddamned wrong. For one thing, the law cares, very much. If you can prove that a photograph was surreptitiously taken of anybody, man or woman, while they're changing clothes, then anybody who attempts to blame the victim, or minimize the privacy violation in any way, is trash. The reason he's not categorically denying that the photography might be of him is that he doesn't want to be called a liar if it turns out he's wrong.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:10:49pm |
re: #46 JasonA
Facebook also has the same kind of insecure email uploading system.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:11:15pm |
re: #47 ElCapitanAmerica
Incredible.
Do these guys employ no security people at all?!?!
Well at least with them you can change those four digits...
Yeah, it's not even a little better, really.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:11:19pm |
re: #5 ElCapitanAmerica
I don't think so. Nice work!
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:11:30pm |
re: #46 JasonA
Holy crap. Twitpic seems to work the exact same way...
Posting Media from Your Phone
Uploading via Email
Just send your photos or videos to:
(your twitter name).(four digit number)@twitpic.com
Like I said downstairs, it seems like social networking sites geared towards being "user friendly" are internet security nightmares.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:11:48pm |
re: #49 Charles
Facebook also has the same kind of insecure email uploading system.
Huh. You know, I'm actually a little surprised it took this long for something like this to happen.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:11:56pm |
re: #46 JasonA
Holy crap. Twitpic seems to work the exact same way...
Posting Media from Your Phone
Uploading via Email
Just send your photos or videos to:
(your twitter name).(four digit number)@twitpic.com
re: #47 ElCapitanAmerica
Incredible.
Do these guys employ no security people at all?!?!
Probably the same guys who wrote Yfrog also helped write twitpic or else provided the template for it.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:12:25pm |
re: #52 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Like I said downstairs, it seems like social networking sites geared towards being "user friendly" are internet security nightmares.
I think "user friendly" and "security nightmare" are one and the same.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:12:32pm |
re: #48 goddamnedfrank
Um, I'm sorry, but no, you're flat out goddamned wrong. For one thing, the law cares, very much. If you can prove that a photograph was surreptitiously taken of anybody, man or woman, while they're changing clothes, then anybody who attempts to blame the victim, or minimize the privacy violation in any way, is trash. The reason he's not categorically denying that the photography might be of him is that he doesn't want to be called a liar if it turns out he's wrong.
I know the law cares, I was thinking about how it'll play out in the spin cycle. But I hope I'm wrong and you're right, Frank, I really do.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:12:47pm |
re: #36 Floral Giraffe
Charles, would you please clarify the log ins & the log outs of the spy?
Or, is there a link? I'm getting confused, trying to follow friends.
TIA.
It just shows you when people log in or out. Not much more to explain!
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:13:01pm |
re: #47 ElCapitanAmerica
Incredible.
Do these guys employ no security people at all?!?!
Probably not, because when told that they had to design a system that was secure, but easy enough for the criminally stupid to use, they declared it impossible and walked out.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:14:32pm |
re: #48 goddamnedfrank
Unfortunately*, I think DF is right, not wrong.
The court of public opinion is what I believe he is talking about there, and that particular court is fickle, merciless, and happy to ignore things like facts or logic. And though it has no legal authority at all, it still has the unfortunate power to destroy a person's reputation and career.
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makeitstop Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:14:45pm |
re: #53 JasonA
Huh. You know, I'm actually a little surprised it took this long for something like this to happen.
I said that earlier today. Hell, yfrog publicized it as a feature two years ago.
Why no one has used it for nefarious purposes before now is beyond me.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:15:53pm |
re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth
Unfortunately*, I think DF is right, not wrong.
The court of public opinion is what I believe he is talking about there, and that particular court is fickle, merciless, and happy to ignore things like facts or logic. And though it has no legal authority at all, it still has the unfortunate power to destroy a person's reputation and career.
Yeah, but in the court of public opinion, the man's automatically guilty of the crime of being a politician. Anything after that is just details.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:16:21pm |
re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth
Unfortunately*, I think DF is right, not wrong.
The court of public opinion is what I believe he is talking about there, and that particular court is fickle, merciless, and happy to ignore things like facts or logic. And though it has no legal authority at all, it still has the unfortunate power to destroy a person's reputation and career.
Your interpretation is correct.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:16:59pm |
re: #62 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, but in the court of public opinion, the man's automatically guilty of the crime of being a politician. Anything after that is just details.
Well in that case, he definitely has it coming, regardless of the facts.
/:)
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Mocking Jay Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:18:32pm |
This system seems like a relic the more I think about it. Most smartphones seem to post pics through the Twitter app without emailing and all that, right? I know my Android can do it.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:20:10pm |
re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth
Unfortunately*, I think DF is right, not wrong.
The court of public opinion is what I believe he is talking about there, and that particular court is fickle, merciless, and happy to ignore things like facts or logic. And though it has no legal authority at all, it still has the unfortunate power to destroy a person's reputation and career.
How exactly would the person in this photograph's identity be in any way determined without the photographer coming forward and providing an affidavit? That's the problem with this nebulous notion, it exists outside plausibility, the idea that it might somehow be proven that it's him but with the exact circumstances in which it was taken remaining undefined.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:20:58pm |
re: #62 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, but in the court of public opinion, the man's automatically guilty of the crime of being a politician. Anything after that is just details.
Indeed. Fairly or unfairly (likely unfairly), Anthony Weiner stands a good change of being tainted with the general aura of 'Congressional Sleeze'. And once that stink sticks to you, it does not go away.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:21:06pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
I wish it weren't so, but we see it play out in the media so often that I sometimes wish I could sneak off to another planet.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:23:59pm |
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
Indeed. Fairly or unfairly (likely unfairly), Anthony Weiner stands a good change of being tainted with the general aura of 'Congressional Sleeze'. And once that stink sticks to you, it does not go away.
True, but even then, there's levels to such taint. Unless he allows it to get worse, the worst Weiner is looking at is being the subject of a "scandal" that went nothing and did nothing. Something that his detractors bring up, only to be soundly smacked down by those of us with two functioning brain cells in our skulls.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:25:54pm |
re: #66 goddamnedfrank
How exactly would the person in this photograph's identity be in any way determined without the photographer coming forward and providing an affidavit? That's the problem with this nebulous notion, it exists outside plausibility, the idea that it might somehow be proven that it's him but with the exact circumstances in which it was taken remaining undefined.
You're problem right now is that you're applying logical ideas to a largely illogical beast, that beast being the court of public opinion.
The truth still hasn't got it's shoes on. But when it does, it won't matter one bit to the people who want to believe the lie. One can be completely exonerated from any wrongdoing, yet still have their reputations and careers damaged or completely ruined by the lies.
Which is what makes Breitbart all the more disgusting when it comes to his fabrications.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:29:43pm |
re: #69 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
True, but even then, there's levels to such taint. Unless he allows it to get worse, the worst Weiner is looking at is being the subject of a "scandal" that went nothing and did nothing. Something that his detractors bring up, only to be soundly smacked down by those of us with two functioning brain cells in our skulls.
Plus it makes his detractors sound like disgusting, cock obsessed creeps.
Again, the idea that this photograph might somehow be proven to be of him but the circumstances in which it was taken remaining unknown strains all credulity.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:33:02pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Plus it makes his detractors sound like disgusting, cock obsessed creeps.
Again, the idea that this photograph might somehow be proven to be of him but the circumstances in which it was taken remaining unknown strains all credulity.
I just worry it may not matter. Hope I'm wrong, though.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:33:16pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Again, the idea that this photograph might somehow be proven to be of him but the circumstances in which it was taken remaining unknown strains all credulity.
It seems unlikely, but not at all impossible. Strangers take pictures of other people's junk all the time without their knowledge. Another fact of life I wish weren't true.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:33:54pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Plus it makes his detractors sound like disgusting, cock obsessed creeps.
Again, the idea that this photograph might somehow be proven to be of him but the circumstances in which it was taken remaining unknown strains all credulity.
Exactly. Unless the spammer is gonna step forward and prove that it is Weiner's crotch on display, then that's the end of it. The most the press has is that it might be Weiner, playing on his refusal to confirm or deny as being indicative of his "guilt." People who want to believe it will do so, despite the reality that it could be anybody's wang that we're looking at.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:40:56pm |
re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth
It seems unlikely, but not at all impossible. Strangers take pictures of other people's junk all the time without their knowledge. Another fact of life I wish weren't true.
No, trust me, it's pretty much impossible. There's not enough to go on in that photograph for an image based identification. All metadata can be re-written. Unless an original physical uncropped film based color slide or negative exists showing his face the whole notion is a non starter. What's also unrealistic is the idea that if it is proven that it's him and he was photographed without his permission that people wouldn't have sympathy for him as the victim of a crime.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:52:51pm |
re: #75 goddamnedfrank
You seem to be missing a lot of points.
No, trust me, it's pretty much impossible.
It's not impossible. There are entire websites dedicated to displaying unauthorized pics taken by weirdos. If it were impossible, the term "upskirt" would not be part of our modern lexicon. Sadly, that is not the case.
There's not enough to go on in that photograph for an image based identification. All metadata can be re-written. Unless an original physical uncropped film based color slide or negative exists showing his face the whole notion is a non starter.
The point you continue to miss here is that a lie can make it halfway around the world before the truth can get it's shoes on. Lies like this can absolutely ruin a person, irreparably, regardless of the real truth.
What's also unrealistic is the idea that if it is proven that it's him and he was photographed without his permission that people wouldn't have sympathy for him as the victim of a crime.
That is something you are inferring, not something that I have implied. And even Weiner has been saying that he does not know if that is a picture of his junk or not. But he has said that he did not post that picture to his Twitter account, which I am inclined to believe.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:57:25pm |
Lizards, time to call it night. I am actually surprised that no one has posted this vid.
Run with the story. To hell with the facts.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jun 1, 2011 10:59:12pm |
re: #77 Bubblehead II
Lizards, time to call it night. I am actually surprised that no one has posted this vid.
[Video]Run with the story. To hell with the facts.
Is it Mr. Limekiller from Bloom County who always screams. "RUN that puppy!"?
(Or,"IT'S REAGAN'S FAULT!!!")
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Targetpractice Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:02:28pm |
re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist
Is it Mr. Limekiller from Bloom County who always screams. "RUN that puppy!"?
(Or,"IT'S REAGAN'S FAULT!!!")
Nah, it was the Editor of the Bloom Picayune, who screamed "RUN THAT BABY!"
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funky chicken Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:04:30pm |
Wildly off topic, but someone please tell me that my congressman didn't just sponsor the decriminalization of trading contracts for political contributions?
[Link: cole.house.gov...]
I'm going to bed. Hopefully the Senate will kill it, if not, Obama can veto it.
Grr.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:05:44pm |
re: #79 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Nah, it was the Editor of the Bloom Picayune, who screamed "RUN THAT BABY!"
I thought that was Mr. Limekiller, but a consultation with Wikipedia tells me that he is actually named Overbeek.
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goddamnedfrank Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:07:55pm |
re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth
You seem to be missing a lot of points.
Not really, you're just not paying attention.
It's not impossible. There are entire websites dedicated to displaying unauthorized pics taken by weirdos. If it were impossible, the term "upskirt" would not be part of our modern lexicon. Sadly, that is not the case.
This proves nothing. What's impossible is proving who's in this particular photograph, minus an affidavit from the photographer. There's simply not enough unique data to form a basis of comparison.
The point you continue to miss here is that a lie can make it halfway around the world before the truth can get it's shoes on. Lies like this can absolutely ruin a person, irreparably, regardless of the real truth.
Irrelevant, we're talking about proving it's him, not the dissemination of the lie. Yes, the assertion is out there, proving it is the issue. Specifically DF's notion that if it is proven to be him that this is necessarily bad for Weiner. If he's the victim of a crime then the tables turn.
That is something you are inferring, not something that I have implied. And even Weiner has been saying that he does not know if that is a picture of his junk or not. But he has said that he did not post that picture to his Twitter account, which I am inclined to believe.
I'm not inferring anything, DF made that assertion plainly. I showed why it's based on faulty logic, namely the false notion that anything could be proven about who is in that photograph absent an affidavit from the photographer stating the circumstance in which it was taken.
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windsagio Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:14:39pm |
re: #82 goddamnedfrank
the fact that you guys are disputing about upskirt shots makes me vaguely happy for some reason ><
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:15:05pm |
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laZardo Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:28:05pm |
re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth
Perhaps you're right. Perhaps your guilty of the same. Perhaps we're both dicks.
If that's true then you're both necessary.
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Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Jun 1, 2011 11:38:48pm |
re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist
Is it Mr. Limekiller from Bloom County who always screams. "RUN that puppy!"?
(Or,"IT'S REAGAN'S FAULT!!!")
Not sure. My Bloom County Collection Consists of the following.
Gotta Run, My Country Is Collapsing (G.B. Trudeau)
I'd Go With The helmet, Ray (G.B. Trudeau)
Welcome To Club Scud! (G.B. Trudeau)
Doonesbury Dossier (G.B. Trudeau)
Babylon, 5 Years of Basic Naughtiness (Berke Breathed)
Tales Too Ticklish To Tell (Berke Breathed)
Billy and the Boingers Bootleg (with the actual un-played vinyl record still attached. Songs: I'M A Boinger by S. Dallas and U-Stink-But-I Love (heart)-U By B.Cat) (Berke Breathed))
Happy Trails (Berke Breathed)
The Night Of The Mary Kay Commandos (Featuring (Unopened) Smell-O-Toons) (Berke Breathed))
And last, but not least, The Polically, Fashionably, And Aerodynamically INCORRECT. The First OUTLAND Collection By Berkeley Breathed.
And no, The Berke and Berkeley are not typos. This is how the Authors name is printed on the books.
Now I am really out of here for the night.
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freetoken Thu, Jun 2, 2011 12:03:00am |
Cherries are finally coming into season, enough for the "sale" price to be $2.49/lb.
Oh, for the days of $1/lb cherries - those were the days.
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freetoken Thu, Jun 2, 2011 12:05:33am |
Think I will undertake writing up another page about the latest evolution factoid that is driving Ken Ham crazy. He just can't grok that he is part of this universe.
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windsagio Thu, Jun 2, 2011 12:40:51am |
re: #87 Bubblehead II
I missed you, but why are you including Doonesburys? ><
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Jun 2, 2011 12:58:10am |
I used to occasionally print and do Photoshop monkey work for Berkley Breathed in Santa Barbara, photo lab fine print stuff, adjusting levels and fine tuning files from his work on Mars Needs Mom and Flawed Dogs. One of my few brushes with actual fame.
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AK-47% Thu, Jun 2, 2011 1:33:12am |
re: #88 freetoken
Cherries are finally coming into season, enough for the "sale" price to be $2.49/lb.
Oh, for the days of $1/lb cherries - those were the days.
We need to reduce our dependence on foreign cherries. Pit, baby, pit!!!
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freetoken Thu, Jun 2, 2011 1:46:21am |
So I'm working on my Page on genetics and Christian doctrine and fundamentalism... but it is getting to be very long, and has sentences as lengthy as 69 words. I'm afraid it's going to put people to sleep.
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AK-47% Thu, Jun 2, 2011 2:11:51am |
Christian genetics? In a nutshell:
I
Don't come from
No
Ape!!!
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freetoken Thu, Jun 2, 2011 2:25:28am |
re: #95 ralphieboy
Well, it's finished. I'll wait until later in the day to post it, so it won't get over-run by the early morning news posts. Only about 10,000 characters (with four footnotes), so not as bad as I thought it was going to be. OTOH I skipped lots of stuff, expecting the reader to research any topics of interest.
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freetoken Thu, Jun 2, 2011 2:34:05am |
Debussy, as reinterpreted by The Fast Forward Music Project:
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:10:36am |
I can fly a Death Star through that security hole...
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:15:18am |
re: #98 Varek Raith
I can fly a Death Star through that security hole...
I checked my hotmail account the last 2 mornings. Usually 1 email from Dell and that's about it. The last 2 morns, 23 and 27 emails returned. Had that happen when I was first online with AOL in '97. Trojan Horse. Lucky I have a good memory considering I have about 10 different places I need passwords. What was I saying?:)
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:15:53am |
re: #98 Varek Raith
I saw the most awesome thing yesterday.
A little kid in an absolutely perfect Vader costume, marching down the street with his mom (I assume) dressed as Leia and his Dad as Han, both of them with the Cloud City shackles on.
I went up to him and asked, "Lord Vader, do you need help with your prisoners?'
He gave me a great blank stare (kind of easy with the mask on) and said, "No, they are accompanying me to my Bar Mitzvah."
The dad lagged behind for a second as his kid strode off and explained they were doing a star wars themed Bar Mitzvah party with Vader's conversion back to the light side as the theme.
Reform Judaism: it can closely resemble the Church of the Subgenius sometimes.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:17:43am |
re: #100 Obdicut
I saw the most awesome thing yesterday.
A little kid in an absolutely perfect Vader costume, marching down the street with his mom (I assume) dressed as Leia and his Dad as Han, both of them with the Cloud City shackles on.
I went up to him and asked, "Lord Vader, do you need help with your prisoners?'
He gave me a great blank stare (kind of easy with the mask on) and said, "No, they are accompanying me to my Bar Mitzvah."
The dad lagged behind for a second as his kid strode off and explained they were doing a star wars themed Bar Mitzvah party with Vader's conversion back to the light side as the theme.
Reform Judaism: it can closely resemble the Church of the Subgenius sometimes.
Hah, that's most excellent.
:)
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:19:16am |
re: #101 Varek Raith
Also, I'm old enough now that 13 is a 'little kid' to me. Oy.
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:21:04am |
re: #103 Obdicut
Also, I'm old enough now that 13 is a 'little kid' to me. Oy.
I still get excited when the schools close due to inclement weather.
Heh
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:26:25am |
re: #104 Varek Raith
I still get excited when the schools close due to inclement weather.
Heh
Do ya sit on the porch with a zoom lens?
/
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:27:32am |
re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do ya sit on the porch with a zoom lens?
/
Bazing!
*Tosses a 50 ton meteor at CCA*
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:36:10am |
The difference between the PGA and the LPGA is that a woman can play in the PGA tournaments if they are good enough. Had many arguments with a friend's wife on the subject of women in sports. I've told her if a woman is good enough she will be able to play. But she just likes to argue, even when she is wrong.
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:51:24am |
re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar
To me, it's basically like weight classes in boxing. I've got no problem with a middleweight who is good enough to fight a heavyweight. I've got a lot of problems with heavyweights who want to fight middleweights.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 2, 2011 3:54:49am |
re: #108 Obdicut
When I was in high skool, the wrestling team would fast for about 3 days before the weigh in for tournaments, then run to the McDonald's 2 blocks away and pig out. But I'm sure that is true for many skools.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:02:16am |
Dude is trying to steal second. One person is out. D'oh!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:17:04am |
As of about 9:00 pm Pacific, Yfrog.com has disabled posting pictures via MMS or email.
Yfrog.com must be loving this. Yfrog.com has to get more secure so these things can not happen.
What is Yfrog.com?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:21:47am |
Meanwhile, spokesman for the Heart Attack Grill dies...
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:22:10am |
Gotta run. See ya'll this afternoon.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:22:57am |
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Shropshire_Slasher Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:40:45am |
I can't help my expensive taste in some things:[Link: www.wpix.com...]
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Shropshire_Slasher Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:43:21am |
This is a test:[Link: www.wpix.com...]
I got them all wrong, but I kept trying. There will be a quiz at noon, please study.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:54:44am |
re: #116 Shropshire_Slasher
I knew if I stayed at it for long enough, I'd find Sofia. I just knew it.
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Shropshire_Slasher Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:55:32am |
re: #117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I wouldn't kick her outta bed for eating crackers ya know.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:56:09am |
re: #118 Shropshire_Slasher
I wouldn't kick her outta bed for eating crackers ya know.
I wouldn't kick her outta bed...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:57:02am |
re: #118 Shropshire_Slasher
Ten pounds of potatoes in a five pound sack.
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Shropshire_Slasher Thu, Jun 2, 2011 4:58:59am |
re: #120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Like two little puppies fighting
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Shropshire_Slasher Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:05:21am |
I just woulda hunted this guy down and de-nutted him [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
I don't think I would want the laptop back.
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garhighway Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:15:28am |
Morning all. I see that LGF was mentioned (in an uncomplimentary way) over on Redstate this morning. It seems they don't buy that technical holes made Weiner's account vulnerable.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:22:04am |
re: #123 garhighway
ElCapitan's page is a pretty much incontestable knockdown, so they're just pissing on themselves.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:23:08am |
Woman on Trial for Killing Rapper With One Punch
A 142 pound woman is on trial for killing an aspiring rapper with one punch to the face during a party game in which the victim agreed to be hit as part of a $5 bet.
John "Fatboy" Powell, 25, was attending and performing at a party with his band Krazy Killaz last September when he accepted a $5 party bet to be punched in the face by a woman.
A few minutes after Tiffany Startz, 22, had delivered a punch to his face, Powell passed out. He was taken to Provena Saint Joseph Medical Center in Joliet, Ill., where he died.
An autopsy on Powell showed that an artery burst in his neck and that he died from a brain hemorrhage caused by blunt force trauma.
Now, Startz is on trial and facing charges of battery and reckless conduct. Her lawyer Ira Goldstein said, "There's nothing reckless here. What she did was intentional. [Powell] said he would accept the punch from her."
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:25:36am |
re: #126 NJDhockeyfan
Man, that sucks. Poor guy, poor girl. Shit like that happens, and it's nobody's fault. If that's reckless endangerment, then so is every game of football.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:25:59am |
re: #121 Shropshire_Slasher
Like two little puppies fighting
"Listen, I was wandering. Can I ask you a question? Uh... was your father a meat burgler? Here's why I ask: because it looks like somebody stole two fine hams and shoved them down the back of your dress."
-Leon Phelps, The Ladies Man
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garhighway Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:26:44am |
re: #125 Obdicut
ElCapitan's page is a pretty much incontestable knockdown, so they're just pissing on themselves.
They do that.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:30:52am |
Time:
Battle of the 'Weiners': Competing Parody Twitter Accounts Fight For Followers
It was really only a matter of time.@AnthonysWiener joined Twitter on Saturday, adding one more head's thoughts to the hotly-debated controversy resulting from the lewd photo posted to Rep. Anthony Weiner's Twitter account last week. A day later, @AnthonysWeiner debuted under the same premise.
Evidently, the users behind the accounts couldn't resist capitalizing on the penis-joke potential of the New York Democrat's last name. Too easy? Perhaps, but then again, if you take these tweets to heart, so is Congressman Weiner.
Increasing the level of ridiculousness surrounding the scandal with entertaining quips like, "the American Pie Association just sent us a cease and desist," these tweets will draw laughs from even the most prude followers. In both cases, the use of the #weinergate tag is so liberal that it actually reflects the congressman's politics. Though @AnthonysWeiner boasts more followers, its rival Wiener still holds his own. Both have tweeted directly at Rep. Weiner himself.
We'll let you choose which Weiner to follow.
LOL!
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:45:12am |
Good Morning all.
I have a feelin' that this is going to be a crazy train ride kind of day....
Pulling out of the 7-11 back onto the street to drive the last couple of miles to work, light rain and quite dark - being 4:30am and all - and I almost miss seeing this kid motoring up to the intersection light. It's only his red helmet that gets my attention since he's got no lights or reflection working for hiim.
So we're sitting at the light, waiting for it to change - he's kinda tucked up next to my rear bumper on the right. My brake tail light is illuminating him in my side mirror.
Light turns green, we both head through and on down the road (4 lanes with a turn lane, major road) we go for several miles before I turn off for the last half mile to where I park.
At least he stayed in the right lane.....
Now for an extra credit assignment - come up with the story that led up to his escapade!
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:47:59am |
Rumors of sorcery in the environs of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad have reached such a high pitch that leading members of his entourage have had to deny them. Some Iranian media outlets even quoted the president as saying that those alleging “the influence of fortune-tellers and jinn on government were telling jokes.”
In fact, the matter is deadly serious. Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi was quoted as being “more than 90 percent certain that he (Ahmadinejad) has been put under a spell… I do not know if it is hypnotism… or relations with yogis. But there is something wrong.”
Dinnerjacket is having a rough time at home it appears.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:50:30am |
re: #123 garhighway
Morning all. I see that LGF was mentioned (in an uncomplimentary way) over on Redstate this morning. It seems they don't buy that technical holes made Weiner's account vulnerable.
I get that there are people in the world that do not understand tech. Nobody understands everything, after all. However, I would assume that it's only basic sense to ask a techspert for the "common man's version" before posting something inflammatory involving a tech you don't understand. Then again, basic sense is something most of the people on the crazy side lack.
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:51:06am |
re: #132 Ericus58
Good Morning all.
I have a feelin' that this is going to be a crazy train ride kind of day...Pulling out of the 7-11 back onto the street to drive the last couple of miles to work, light rain and quite dark - being 4:30am and all - and I almost miss seeing this kid motoring up to the intersection light. It's only his red helmet that gets my attention since he's got no lights or reflection working for hiim.
So we're sitting at the light, waiting for it to change - he's kinda tucked up next to my rear bumper on the right. My brake tail light is illuminating him in my side mirror.
Light turns green, we both head through and on down the road (4 lanes with a turn lane, major road) we go for several miles before I turn off for the last half mile to where I park.
At least he stayed in the right lane...Now for an extra credit assignment - come up with the story that led up to his escapade!
Oh, forgot to tell you all what he was driving... too early and too many hours of work.
A Go-Kart.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:51:53am |
re: #135 Ericus58
Oh, forgot to tell you all what he was driving... too early and too many hours of work.
A Go-Kart.
Is that even street legal? Most of the time they're not.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:53:22am |
re: #135 Ericus58
Oh, forgot to tell you all what he was driving... too early and too many hours of work.
A Go-Kart.
That can't be legal no matter where you live!
Here in Central Utah you can ride an ATV on all city streets as long as you obey all traffic laws!
But a go cart??WTF
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 5:57:13am |
10 reasons why the market will soar
The market fell like a brick on Wednesday. People can’t handle any piece of bad news without saying “this is the big one.” We have visceral memories of May through July 2010, just a year ago. We have visceral memories of 2008, when it seemed like no end was in sight. Nobody wants to be caught trying to catch that knife with their mouths like in a circus act. You get cut up that way, and the blood isn’t pretty.
But it’s not going to happen. Even God took one day to rest. The market every now and then needs a day or two to rest. Maybe even more than a day or two. But over the next 12 to 18 months I expect to see Dow 20,000 .
Here are some reasons:
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:01:48am |
re: #100 Obdicut
I saw the most awesome thing yesterday.
A little kid in an absolutely perfect Vader costume, marching down the street with his mom (I assume) dressed as Leia and his Dad as Han, both of them with the Cloud City shackles on.
I went up to him and asked, "Lord Vader, do you need help with your prisoners?'
He gave me a great blank stare (kind of easy with the mask on) and said, "No, they are accompanying me to my Bar Mitzvah."
The dad lagged behind for a second as his kid strode off and explained they were doing a star wars themed Bar Mitzvah party with Vader's conversion back to the light side as the theme.
Reform Judaism: it can closely resemble the Church of the Subgenius sometimes.
Forwarded this to a friend, who replied:
Now I have the Vader theme in my head, and see him walking down the hall of the Rebel ship, but stopping to stomp on a glass halfway through…
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:05:29am |
re: #100 Obdicut
I saw the most awesome thing yesterday.
A little kid in an absolutely perfect Vader costume, marching down the street with his mom (I assume) dressed as Leia and his Dad as Han, both of them with the Cloud City shackles on.
I went up to him and asked, "Lord Vader, do you need help with your prisoners?'
He gave me a great blank stare (kind of easy with the mask on) and said, "No, they are accompanying me to my Bar Mitzvah."
The dad lagged behind for a second as his kid strode off and explained they were doing a star wars themed Bar Mitzvah party with Vader's conversion back to the light side as the theme.
Reform Judaism: it can closely resemble the Church of the Subgenius sometimes.
My kids' and grandkids' Bat Mitzvahs were all so boring...
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:08:27am |
Now for an extra credit assignment - come up with the story that led up to his escapade!
The short version:
He just stole it...your the only wittness...expect a visit from the local
P.D.....a pleasently plump, short Oprah look alike officer will take your statemnet...etc.
The Long version:
It was the best of times.It was the worst of times.....
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:08:53am |
Go Kart's are NOT street legal.
The kid must have had some heck of a night out... ;)
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:09:24am |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
You said weiner and raging in the same sentence!!!
YOUR SICK!!
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:17:48am |
re: #141 Killgore Trout
I see wienergate is still raging on.
The rising story of this congressional member won't fall away right now.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:18:07am |
re: #140 Alouette
My kids' and grandkids' Bat Mitzvahs were all so boring...
If you were cooking, I bet the food was exciting enough.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:18:53am |
re: #145 NJDhockeyfan
The rising story of this congressional member won't fall away right now.
In this case...Media = Viagra!
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:19:35am |
re: #146 Obdicut
If you were cooking, I bet the food was exciting enough.
Pull some strings, get a fighter jet to fly over my house.
I know you know people!
/
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:19:50am |
re: #146 Obdicut
If you were cooking, I bet the food was exciting enough.
My daughter actually prepared all the food herself for her oldest son's Bar Mitzvah.
Then last year, for her second son's Bar Mitzvah, she didn't want to go through all that work again and hired a caterer.
Her food was far better.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:21:03am |
re: #149 Alouette
Did I mention the glass at my wedding?
Instead of giving me a lightbulb or a wine glass, they gave me a full-on rocks glass.
[Link: lh4.googleusercontent.com...]
The first stomp didn't break it, so there's great pictures of me just wailing on it with my foot, like it was my worst enemy.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:21:54am |
| 152 |
Varek Raith Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:22:21am |
re: #150 Obdicut
Did I mention the glass at my wedding?
Instead of giving me a lightbulb or a wine glass, they gave me a full-on rocks glass.
[Link: lh4.googleusercontent.com...]
The first stomp didn't break it, so there's great pictures of me just wailing on it with my foot, like it was my worst enemy.
You got punk'd.
:)
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:24:08am |
re: #150 Obdicut
Did I mention the glass at my wedding?
Instead of giving me a lightbulb or a wine glass, they gave me a full-on rocks glass.
[Link: lh4.googleusercontent.com...]
The first stomp didn't break it, so there's great pictures of me just wailing on it with my foot, like it was my worst enemy.
The Zionist Mall sells special colored glasses for breaking. Then, you can send in the pieces to have them made into a special souvenir.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:30:27am |
re: #153 Alouette
Those are really nice. Should have thought of that.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:33:54am |
I 'm finding out why plumbers charge so much $$..
This crap can really give ya headache!!
Off to fix shit...Have a great day all!!
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:38:08am |
Greets and saluts from the gloriously sunny and bright NYC metro area. Not sure if anyone here likes the Stieg Larsson trilogy, but the teaser trailer for Dragon Tattoo has been released and it's got a super-bitchin' version of Immigrant Song covered by Trent Reznor and Karen O. Apparently Reznor is doing the soundtrack, which means good things IMO (he and Ross won for Social Network)..
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:41:29am |
Hollywood pro liberal bias/anti conservative discrimination- has been confirmed.
"Another video has Leonard Goldberg — who executive produces Blue Bloods for CBS and a few decades ago exec produced such hits as Fantasy Island, Charlie’s Angels and Starsky and Hutch — saying that liberalism in the TV industry is “100 percent dominant, and anyone who denies it is kidding, or not telling the truth.”
Shapiro asks if politics are a barrier to entry. “Absolutely,” Goldberg says.
When Shapiro tells Fred Pierce, the president of ABC in the 1980s who was instrumental in Disney’s acquisition of ESPN, that “It’s very difficult for people who are politically conservative to break in” to television, he responds: “I can’t argue that point.” Those who don’t lean left, he says, “don’t promote it. It stays underground.”
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:51:47am |
re: #157 Rightwingconspirator
Oh god no, they're even advancing the gay agenda! Will horrors never cease?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:54:16am |
re: #158 Obdicut
Oh god no, they're even advancing the gay agenda! Will horrors never cease?
I missed that part. Where did you see that?
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:54:17am |
re: #157 Rightwingconspirator
Hollywood pro liberal bias/anti conservative discrimination- has been confirmed.
"Another video has Leonard Goldberg — who executive produces Blue Bloods for CBS and a few decades ago exec produced such hits as Fantasy Island, Charlie’s Angels and Starsky and Hutch — saying that liberalism in the TV industry is “100 percent dominant, and anyone who denies it is kidding, or not telling the truth.”
Shapiro asks if politics are a barrier to entry. “Absolutely,” Goldberg says.
When Shapiro tells Fred Pierce, the president of ABC in the 1980s who was instrumental in Disney’s acquisition of ESPN, that “It’s very difficult for people who are politically conservative to break in” to television, he responds: “I can’t argue that point.” Those who don’t lean left, he says, “don’t promote it. It stays underground.”
What about Fox?
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:55:02am |
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:55:30am |
re: #159 NJDhockeyfan
I missed that part. Where did you see that?
Right here:
The advancement of a gay and lesbian political agenda is mentioned by multiple executives, including Marcy Carsey, a producer of Soap and Roseanne, and Desperate Housewives producer Marc Cherry, who is a rarity in Hollywood: a gay Republican.
Oh, those gays and their agenda!
| 164 |
NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:55:44am |
re: #161 ggt
Morning all!
How goes it?
Great! It's Friday...have fun, relax, and keep your pants on!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:56:17am |
re: #156 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the gloriously sunny and bright NYC metro area. Not sure if anyone here likes the Stieg Larsson trilogy, but the teaser trailer for Dragon Tattoo has been released and it's got a super-bitchin' version of Immigrant Song covered by Trent Reznor and Karen O. Apparently Reznor is doing the soundtrack, which means good things IMO (he and Ross won for Social Network)..
I loved the trilogy. Saw the Eurpopean version of the 1st movie. Somehow, I don't think the American will be so "true" to the book.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:56:35am |
re: #163 Obdicut
Right here:
Oh, those gays and their agenda!
Oh, nontroversy about gays. Who cares?
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:56:53am |
re: #164 NJDhockeyfan
[Link: todaysdate.com...]
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:57:02am |
Dr. Rosalyn Yalow, Nobel Prize winning physicist, passed away at 89.
What an awesome inspiration and role model for our children.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:57:04am |
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:59:02am |
So... I now have a Bachelors of Engineering. Cool.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:59:16am |
re: #158 Obdicut
Oh god no, they're even advancing the gay agenda! Will horrors never cease?
Okay here is what bugs me.
This puts the lie to their "diversity" and "tolerance."
I'll just try to remind us all that many conservative citizens are not wingnuts just as many citizen liberals are not moonbats.
Past that as I depart for work I'll leave us with this-As we hammer Fox... uh, "News" for it's far right wingnut bias why leave TV series production immune?
Partisan bias in a raw dominant form does damage, left or right.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 6:59:42am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:01:08am |
re: #170 McSpiff
So... I now have a Bachelors of Engineering. Cool.
Welcome to the brotherhood. And congratulations.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:01:49am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:02:14am |
re: #173 thedopefishlives
Welcome to the brotherhood. And congratulations.
My Dear Old Dad was an Engineer. You are indeed in good company.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:02:22am |
Shitbag of the day come from Scotland...
Scottish councilor: Hamas are freedom fighters
A Scottish politician playing a leading role in an anti-Israel boycott says members of terror group Hamas are “freedom fighters” who are “fighting an illegal occupation of Palestine by Israel.”
Councilor James Bollan’s remarks, contained in email correspondence with Jewish activists, were published by the Cif Watch blog. Bollan, a member of the Scottish Socialist Party, is a councilor in West Dunbartonshire, which has imposed a boycott on all goods produced in Israel, including books.In an exchange with anti-boycott activist Stephen Franklin following the uproar over the Scottish decision, Bollan had this to say about the Palestinian terror group: “Hamas was elected and are freedom fighters alongside the Palestinians fighting an illegal occupation of Palestine by Israel.”
In another email exchange, with Martin Sugarman, Chair of the Hackney Anglo-Israel Twinning Association, Bollan wrote: “Scots believe in equality and justice…words unknown to Zionists.”
Responding to a Ynetnews inquiry, Bollan confirmed that the statements attributed to him were accurate, and added the following: “One important point I made that strangely was not published along with my comments on the enclosed blog was that Hamas was elected with a bigger majority than the Israeli government.”Following earlier reports of the West Dunbartonshire boycott, and the uproar over the decision to ban Israeli books as well, regional council Spokesman Malcolm Bennie said: "The municipality will not boycott Israeli books printed in Britain, only books that were printed in Israel.”
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:03:02am |
re: #164 NJDhockeyfan
Great! It's Friday...have fun, relax, and keep your pants on!
FRiday? In m world it is only Thursday.
I like your attitude tho!
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Varek Raith Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:03:13am |
re: #158 Obdicut
Oh god no, they're even advancing the gay agenda! Will horrors never cease?
OH NOES!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:04:35am |
re: #176 NJDhockeyfan
Shitbag of the day come from Scotland...
You know, anyone in the Western world with 1/2 brain and has read any of the history of the region knows this is utter bullshit.
I have to think that those advancing this line of thought only have "stirring the pot" as their agenda. Hoping to gain power in midst of the chaos.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:04:48am |
re: #164 NJDhockeyfan
Great! It's Friday...have fun, relax, and keep your pants on!
Damn
And I still have ALL of Thursdays work to do yet!!
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Randy W. Weeks Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:05:06am |
re: #156 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the gloriously sunny and bright NYC metro area. Not sure if anyone here likes the Stieg Larsson trilogy, but the teaser trailer for Dragon Tattoo has been released and it's got a super-bitchin' version of Immigrant Song covered by Trent Reznor and Karen O. Apparently Reznor is doing the soundtrack, which means good things IMO (he and Ross won for Social Network)..
Bad. Ass.
Really glad I hung in there with the first book. Almost gave up on it.
In.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:06:49am |
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:06:55am |
re: #125 Obdicut
ElCapitan's page is a pretty much incontestable knockdown, so they're just pissing on themselves.
I got insulted in twitter over it!
Now the thing some people are saying is that yfrog would lock the MMS feature after 3 failures, which I can't prove or disproved since they've disabled the feature. I think I tried at least 1 invalid email, so no idea if they do this or not.
I will note that if they lock down the feature after 3 bad emails (the wrong word after your twitter account name), then it makes for a very easy to denial of service attack, which would make it easy to annoy people trying to post their pictures.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:08:26am |
re: #170 McSpiff
So... I now have a Bachelors of Engineering. Cool.
What flavor of engineer are you?
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:08:54am |
re: #171 Rightwingconspirator
Okay here is what bugs me.
This puts the lie to their "diversity" and "tolerance."
First of all, the article you cited talked about the 'gay and lesbian political agenda'. I never really know what the hell people are talking about when they reference that. I assume it means marriage equality and non-discrimination. I do, indeed, feel that people who are opposed to gay marriage or in favor of discrimination against gays are pretty far on the wingnut side of things. That that is called out in the article as an example of liberalism infecting TV and Hollywood is depressing.
I see liberal loonies called out here, like Sean Penn's showboating and Michael Moore's idiocy. That there's a general bias in TV shows towards mainstream 'liberalism' I have no doubt. But bias in a show like Futurama or the Simpsons against the GOP are nowhere near the effect of Fox News or the rest of Murdoch's media empire.
Writers, filmmakers, etc. have always tended to be on the liberal side. There's lots of discussion about why, but in general, it's true. I don't think it's going to change, and I think calling it 'bias' is a little odd. I do think anyone not hiring someone because of their political position is shitty as hell. But bias in actual news reporting is far, far more important than bias in movies and TV.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:09:33am |
re: #184 ElCapitanAmerica
How are they saying they lock it down? By IP address?
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:10:44am |
re: #165 ggt
I liked the first book, 2d book was kinda meh, and have to read the 3d ones. Mrs. lawhawk loved 'em but I thought that the big reveal in the 2d book wasn't much of a surprise. Haven't seen the movies, but I think you're right that the US version wont be nearly as dark. Having a good soundtrack, however, may make up for it setting the mood - and if anything NIN's Reznor knows how to do creepy.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:10:54am |
All this talk about yfrog --which to me is just gibberish, I understand NONE of it.
All I can think of is Killgore's frog porn from the other night. . .
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:11:05am |
NY LGBT Center slammed as center of anti-Israel activity
A New York City LGBT Community Center’s decision to host an event of Queers Against Israeli Apartheid last week has drawn sharp criticism.Prominent US gays and the Simon Wiesenthal Center on Wednesday laced into the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Center and Queers Against Israeli Apartheid.
Dr. Shimon Samuels, the Wiesenthal Center’s international director, told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday that Queers Against Israeli Apartheid was a group of “self-hating gays” who “are working against the interests of their own brothers and sisters and should be shunned by all LGBT NGOs. By accepting them, the New York center is providing a fig leaf for Arab homophobia.”
He continued, “Gay anti-Zionism is an oxymoron in that Israel is the only country in the Middle East and in the Islamic region where sexual diversity can be practiced freely without discrimination. In fact, many Palestinian and other Arab gays have sought refuge in Tel Aviv. Gays certainly had no such rights under South African Apartheid, and to even apply that term to Israel is defamatory and the theft of another people’s narrative.”
In February, the LGBT Center agreed to provide space during “Israeli Apartheid Week” to the anti-Israel group Siege Busters, to raise money for a new flotilla to break Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip.
These morons should go visit Gaza and see how well they are received.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:11:31am |
re: #187 Obdicut
How are they saying they lock it down? By IP address?
They're saying the whole account is locked up so you can't send messages by email. I think they're assuming that, because I don't think anybody tested that, although I did try some invalid emails yesterday ... not sure if it was 3 though.
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:11:52am |
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:12:33am |
re: #190 NJDhockeyfan
LGBT support for a strongly anti-gay society over a firmly pro-gay one is surpassingly strange.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:12:43am |
re: #188 lawhawk
I liked the first book, 2d book was kinda meh, and have to read the 3d ones. Mrs. lawhawk loved 'em but I thought that the big reveal in the 2d book wasn't much of a surprise. Haven't seen the movies, but I think you're right that the US version wont be nearly as dark. Having a good soundtrack, however, may make up for it setting the mood - and if anything NIN's Reznor knows how to do creepy.
The trailer made me think of Stephen King's The Shining with Jack Nicholson. The snow and that big house . . .
Needless to say, the story and the protagonist are like nothing ever written before. That I have read, anyway.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:14:44am |
re: #188 lawhawk
I liked the first book, 2d book was kinda meh, and have to read the 3d ones. Mrs. lawhawk loved 'em but I thought that the big reveal in the 2d book wasn't much of a surprise. Haven't seen the movies, but I think you're right that the US version wont be nearly as dark. Having a good soundtrack, however, may make up for it setting the mood - and if anything NIN's Reznor knows how to do creepy.
I'm reading the first book now. NO SPOILERS!
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:14:47am |
re: #191 ElCapitanAmerica
They're saying the whole account is locked up so you can't send messages by email. I think they're assuming that, because I don't think anybody tested that, although I did try some invalid emails yesterday ... not sure if it was 3 though.
Who's account? If you're sending invalid emails, whose would they be locking? The valid users?
So, if I had obdicut.bunke@gmail.com, and you sent to obdicut.flange@gmail. obdicut.grunge@gmail, and obdicut.wange@gmail, they'd lock out my account?
If so, that raises more questions, like: For how long? Given that out of 27 tries, you got one actual repetition, that would just slow an attack down, it wouldn't stop it at all.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:14:49am |
re: #193 Obdicut
LGBT support for a strongly anti-gay society over a firmly pro-gay one is surpassingly strange.
I think they are are "identifying with the underdog". It is surpassingly strange which group they have chosen as the underdog.
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:15:37am |
Assad's amnesty is going over swimmingly - all while he continues murdering protesters and anyone standing in his regime's path.
At least 15 people were killed in the central town of Rastan Thursday morning, local human-rights activists said, as Syrian forces continued a five-day assault on restive towns close to Homs in an attempt to quash dissent.Shelling and heavy machine-gun fire have been reported in the town, north of the city of Homs, and nearby Telbiseh, according to activists and Homs residents, many of whom have family in the towns, bringing the death toll in the area to 69 since Sunday, according to Razan Zeitouneh, a human-rights lawyer in Damascus.
More than 40 of the 69 dead are in Rastan, and at least five are in Telbiseh. Over the weeks leading to the assault, both towns were scenes of massive and sustained protests during which statues of Hafez al-Assad, the former president and father of the current leader, were destroyed.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:15:48am |
re: #192 McSpiff
Computer Engineering. Which at my school is part of the electrical engineering facility. So mainly embedded systems, that type of thing.
Yeah, I had a few friends in the Computer Engineering group at my school, worked on a couple of extra-curricular projects with them. Basically, they developed the hardware and I programmed it for them.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:15:49am |
re: #197 ggt
I think there's a fair bit of ignorance going on there.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:16:57am |
re: #200 Obdicut
I think there's a fair bit of ignorance going on there.
It seems to be epidemic.
Sometimes, I think it is "willful ignorance."
Pisses me off.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:17:47am |
re: #196 Obdicut
Who's account? If you're sending invalid emails, whose would they be locking? The valid users?
So, if I had obdicut.bunke@gmail.com, and you sent to obdicut.flange@gmail. obdicut.grunge@gmail, and obdicut.wange@gmail, they'd lock out my account?
If so, that raises more questions, like: For how long? Given that out of 27 tries, you got one actual repetition, that would just slow an attack down, it wouldn't stop it at all.
Remember, they generate the string. So your target twitter name is foobar, so I would generate strings of the type foobar.*yfrog-magic-word*@yfrog.com. They could say, hey we got a lot of invalid addresses for foobar.*@yfrog.com and then lock down the account.
The key question is, if they were doing this at all, and how do you make it so it doesn't turn out into a super easy denial of service attack.
They never really tried this, but that's the answer now. One guy asked me to hack his account while calling me an idiot, I replied to him that this feature has been disabled. No apology or answer from him yet of course :-)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:18:45am |
re: #195 Alouette
I'm reading the first book now. NO SPOILERS!
And you are on LGF?
I think I read the trilogy in about 4 days. Well, I listened, so I could do so while driving and such.
The audio, BTW, was excellent!
I will tell you that as soon as you finish the 2nd book, you will go straight out (do not pass "go", do not collect $200) and purchase the 3rd and start reading it.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:19:08am |
re: #202 ElCapitanAmerica
They never really tried this, but that's the answer now.
Talk about a statement of ignorance. "Oh, I never tried it, but that has to be how it works, so... YOU'RE WRONG!" It makes my head hurt.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:20:27am |
re: #202 ElCapitanAmerica
Yeah, that's what I meant. Even if they do lock down foobar, how long do they keep it locked down for? If it was just something like fifteen minutes, that'd just mean it might take a day or so to crack someone's password. It's not a huge deal, especially if you automate it.
If it's longer than that, it'd be severely restrictive on users-- and still just make the crack take longer.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:20:37am |
Well, I have to start my day.
Have a great one all!
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:20:54am |
re: #203 ggt
I actually thought those books were pretty blah. I didn't finish the second one.
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:20:59am |
re: #199 thedopefishlives
Yeah, I had a few friends in the Computer Engineering group at my school, worked on a couple of extra-curricular projects with them. Basically, they developed the hardware and I programmed it for them.
Sounds about right. I'm pretty happy with my choice of program overall, now its just a matter of finding some work.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:21:57am |
You know what, I just checked my email logs, and I sent exactly 3 wrong email addresses to my main twitter account, then a valid one and it posted. So they were NOT disabling anything after 3 wrong emails.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:22:21am |
re: #208 McSpiff
Sounds about right. I'm pretty happy with my choice of program overall, now its just a matter of finding some work.
I got my degree in Computer Science in 1986. None of the technology that I work with now even existed back then.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:22:40am |
re: #198 lawhawk
Has the UN said ANYTHING about any of this?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:23:07am |
re: #208 McSpiff
Sounds about right. I'm pretty happy with my choice of program overall, now its just a matter of finding some work.
Embedded systems work is a great place to be if you happen to be in a location that hosts a major medical company. Medical devices have held strong even through the recession, and they love people with specific experience in esoteric embedded technology.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:23:58am |
re: #210 Alouette
I got my degree in Computer Science in 1986. None of the technology that I work with now even existed back then.
An abacus?
{duckin'}
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:25:15am |
re: #210 Alouette
I got my degree in Computer Science in 1986. None of the technology that I work with now even existed back then.
I got mine back in 2006 and even most of THAT technology is out of style. A degree in Computer Science is more about proving that you know the basic theory and can be quickly taught whatever technology is being used in the company.
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:25:25am |
re: #211 sattv4u2
No, they've been pretty quiet about Assad's brutalization of the Syrian people, and among those killed was a 13-year-old boy, who was apparently tortured before being murdered by Assad's thugs:
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:26:11am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:26:50am |
re: #216 Alouette
No, but I had a slide rule. :)
I had rules that slid also!
((depending on how drunk I was ,, how nice SHE was ,,, ))
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lawhawk Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:27:28am |
re: #215 lawhawk
For example, yesterday's noon briefing highlights from the UN Sec. Gen. makes absolutely no reference to Syria.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:27:37am |
re: #215 lawhawk
No, they've been pretty quiet about Assad's brutalization of the Syrian people, and among those killed was a 13-year-old boy, who was apparently tortured before being murdered by Assad's thugs:
[Video]
Yes, I read about that
{sigh}
Guess the UN is too busy for such trivialities
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:27:52am |
re: #211 sattv4u2
Has the UN said ANYTHING about any of this?
They are probably trying to find a way to blame Israel.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:28:16am |
re: #219 sattv4u2
Yes, I read about that
{sigh}
Guess the UN is too busy for such trivialities
Hey, Israel don't condemn itself!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:28:28am |
re: #220 NJDhockeyfan
They are probably trying to find a way to blame Israel.
Israel IS
Thats all they need!
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:29:07am |
re: #210 Alouette
I got my degree in Computer Science in 1986. None of the technology that I work with now even existed back then.
Oddly enough, some of the tech we worked with dates with to about 1986. Looking at you HC11 microprocessor... That's the one complaint I really have about my degree, a few of the profs allowed themselves and their courses to get really dated, and no one really seemed to care.
re: #212 thedopefishlives
Well, nice part is I don't really have anything keeping me where I am. I'm looking for work anywhere in Canada. I'd look globally but I don't really want to deal with immigration law...
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:30:00am |
re: #210 Alouette
I got my degree in Computer Science in 1986. None of the technology that I work with now even existed back then.
Heh. My CmpSci degree is from 1986 as well. PC revolution just underway. Databases were still primarily hierarchal rather than relational. DEC was still a vibrant computer company...
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:31:49am |
****ALERT*****ALERT*****ALERT****
Satty Brag Time
These grades just in from my sons school (he just finished 11th grade)
Journalism,,,,,,,,,,, 97
Honors Pre-Cal,,, 97
Statistic ,,,,,,,, 93
Honors Physics ,,,, 92
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:31:59am |
re: #224 oaktree
Heh. My CmpSci degree is from 1986 as well. PC revolution just underway. Databases were still primarily hierarchal rather than relational. DEC was still a vibrant computer company...
I worked on DEC machines and VAX/VMS for many years.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:32:35am |
re: #218 lawhawk
For example, yesterday's noon briefing highlights from the UN Sec. Gen. makes absolutely no reference to Syria.
China is against it...
(Reuters) - China warned on Tuesday that a European draft resolution asking the U.N. Security Council to condemn Syria would not defuse tension in the region, suggesting Beijing could block it if it is submitted for a vote.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:32:56am |
re: #224 oaktree
Heh. My CmpSci degree is from 1986 as well. PC revolution just underway. Databases were still primarily hierarchal rather than relational. DEC was still a vibrant computer company...
Ahh, halcyon days! Et in Arcadia ego, &etc.
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NJDhockeyfan Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:34:47am |
Syria: Human Right Watch warns "We've never seen such horror"
The protests in Syria initially started after a group of 15 young boys, all under 18, were arrested in the city of Daraa, located in the southern part of Syria, after they were accused of writing graffiti slogans against the government on a wall. On March 18, after Friday prayers, thousands of protesters marched the streets demanding the release of the children, calling for greater political freedom and accusing the government and its institutions of corruption. The security forces originally responded to the protests with teargas and water cannons against the demonstrators before they started firing and ended up killing at least four people.
Following the unrest, the children were released but as they were tortured during detention they were returned with severe bruising and bleeding. The families of the boys repeatedly asked the local government agencies to punish those who were responsible but as their pkeas were ignored the protests grew larger, spreading from Daraa to the rest of the country. However, as the protests increased so did the killing of protesters and their arrests.
The Syrian authorities promised to investigate the killings but shamelessly denied any wrong doing, instead insisting that "terrorists group", "armed gangs", and "foreign elements" were those responsible.
In an attempt to suppress the movement, Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad has banned foreign journalists from the country and anyone attempting to film or otherwise report on events since mid-March has been subject to arrest and torture by the security forces. However with so much modern technology available, the dictator cannot stop the flow of information and defiant civilians have managed to posts hundreds of mobile phone videos on the Internet, thus widely documenting the regime's practice of assaulting unarmed civilians with tanks, artillery and automatic weapons.
...
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:36:49am |
All kidding aside, though - why is it that all we want is an answer, and all we seem to get is more technology?
I got through my undergrad years with a Remington-Rand Correspondent's Model - a masterpiece of the machine age. When our campus lost power the night before final papers were due, I was there, by candlelight, finishing up and giggling as my colleagues and peers were running around in desperation seeking a place with working power outlets.
I had an answer - they had technology.
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:41:34am |
re: #230 Guanxi88
All kidding aside, though - why is it that all we want is an answer, and all we seem to get is more technology?
I got through my undergrad years with a Remington-Rand Correspondent's Model - a masterpiece of the machine age. When our campus lost power the night before final papers were due, I was there, by candlelight, finishing up and giggling as my colleagues and peers were running around in desperation seeking a place with working power outlets.
I had an answer - they had technology.
While I certainly agree with your overall point, I wouldn't have traded my access to the Journal's databases for the world...
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:43:38am |
re: #231 McSpiff
While I certainly agree with your overall point, I wouldn't have traded my access to the Journal's databases for the world...
Hey, it all works till the power goes down. Then, it's "Root, hog, or die!"
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:44:22am |
Lethal bacteria is new strain, says World Health Organisation
The World Health Organisation has said that the E. coli bacteria responsible for an outbreak that has left 17 dead and sickened hundreds across Europe is a new strain.
Preliminary genetic sequencing suggests the strain is a mutant form of two E. coli bacteria, with lethal genes that could explain why the Europe-wide outbreak appears to be so dangerous, the agency said.
Spooky.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:45:58am |
re: #226 Alouette
I worked on DEC machines and VAX/VMS for many years.
So did I. I was the local guru at my company in VAX COBOL and Rdb for years. To the point that when I rotated into other IT positions there some applications that depended on those followed me.
The VAX/VMS community in Pittsburgh in the 1990s was small enough that you knew just about everybody. A new employee or contractor would come in and they would know Person X or Person Y already from a previous employer or contracting firm.
I sort of miss some of the features of VAX/VMS and was amused to see some of them creep into the PC world when WinNT came out. And
Windows Studio was essentially a long overdue implementation of the object library concept that has been in VAX/VMS for years.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:51:58am |
I'll just walk on down to the Guadalupe, and there, I'll improvise.
Have a good one, honcos!
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:53:19am |
re: #232 Guanxi88
Hey, it all works till the power goes down. Then, it's "Root, hog, or die!"
Well, one nice thing now is both sides are forced to use computers. So if there really was a campus wide power outage, no one would be able to submit to turnitin.com, or in a lot of cases actually submit the paper to the markers.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:56:15am |
re: #170 McSpiff
So... I now have a Bachelors of Engineering. Cool.
That is so cool!!
I've always loved trains..I'm jealous!
//
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:58:10am |
re: #237 reloadingisnotahobby
That is so cool!!
I've always loved trains..I'm jealous!
//
You're just in it for the cabooses!
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:59:20am |
hmmm
Q T breakfast burrito
Not bad,, not bad at all!!
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:59:31am |
I am very impressed by the folks here for showing how easy it is to spoof yfrog. You may have saved an innocent man's reputation.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 7:59:47am |
re: #234 oaktree
So did I. I was the local guru at my company in VAX COBOL and Rdb for years. To the point that when I rotated into other IT positions there some applications that depended on those followed me.
The VAX/VMS community in Pittsburgh in the 1990s was small enough that you knew just about everybody. A new employee or contractor would come in and they would know Person X or Person Y already from a previous employer or contracting firm.
I sort of miss some of the features of VAX/VMS and was amused to see some of them creep into the PC world when WinNT came out. And
Windows Studio was essentially a long overdue implementation of the object library concept that has been in VAX/VMS for years.
I really miss the debug/step feature that we used to have for Fortran. I wish we had something that simple to use in Windows. The "debug" "feature" for Visual Basic is so fucking complicated, I have not been able to set up a reliable testing area.
They even disabled Response.Write for debugging. Assholes.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:01:42am |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:02:53am |
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:03:08am |
re: #209 ElCapitanAmerica
You know what, I just checked my email logs, and I sent exactly 3 wrong email addresses to my main twitter account, then a valid one and it posted. So they were NOT disabling anything after 3 wrong emails.
This is a very transparent lie. The people who are telling you that yfrog "locks out" an account after 3 tries are simply making it up. The only way they could possibly know that is if they actually tried it themselves. And what "account" could be locked? These attempts would be semi-random - it would not be possible to tie them to a specific account.
The technical term for this kind of excuse-making is "horse shit."
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Ericus58 Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:04:16am |
re: #233 Killgore Trout
Lethal bacteria is new strain, says World Health Organisation
Spooky.
Indeed.
I've not seen as yet any additional information in regards as to this strain being one that could occur in nature on it's own or require an intervention; as in a lab setting.
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ReamWorks SKG Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:04:20am |
re: #190 NJDhockeyfan
My Brother, an attorney in NY, active in LGBT politics, (and a Zionist!) sent me his take on the anti-Israel people in the LGBT center. The "infiltrators" are very good at manipulating people. But it is shameful that an LGBT group would go out of its way to support a government (The Palestinian Authority) that criminalizes homosexuality, and at the same time be against a government that provides a fair amount of equal rights.
Here's my brother's comments:
An old friend of mine who looked into the "siege busters" boycott and divestiture group in NYC tells me that their members are, almost to a person, members of the International Socialist Organization, a "Trotskyist" fringe organization. Sherry Wolf, their visible spokesperson, is a functionary of that group.
These groups, like the Worker's World Party and the Socialist Workers Party are cult-like fanatics who are constantly forming front organizations in order to give themselves cred within a broader left as well as to sabotage particular projects that independent activists might be working on. I've seen them many times disrupt LGBT grassroots organizing meetings. These groups are opportunists; they don't really give a shit about the Palestinians or gay rights but will use these peoples and causes for propaganda purposes in pursuit of their own agenda. The ISO undoubtedly makes a point of placing its self-hating Jews (or those who pretend they are Jewish) in the siege-busters group.
These groups take up specific causes in order to obtain donations from interests who see them as propagating their cause. The Workers' World Party, with its headquarters on 14th st. here, is notorious for championing dictators, like Saddam Hussein and Milosevic of the former Yugoslavia, whom they portray as victims of US imperialism. The WWP is the parent of the "ANSWER Coalition," which organized (to the exclusion of others) anti-Iraq war demos and is currently involved in championing the Arab spring against its American Imperialist enemies (you can see their distinctively rectangular placards on TV footage of demonstrations). There is plenty of "Gulf" money that, I would bet, goes to anti-Israel groups like ISO, even if their theoretical Trotskyism is totally incompatible with Islamic fundamentalism.
My friend told me that several years ago, Siege Busters asked the remnant of ACT UP (I haven't been to a meeting in six years) if it would allow the group to use its space. To its credit, ACT UP said no.
These groups are experienced political street-fighters who know how to milk a confrontation, turning it into a battle for free speech, freedom, etc. If you call them on their organizational connection, they will call you a "red baiter," "McCarthyite" and racist, sometimes succeeding in intimidating their opponents and winning skirmishes. Many independent progressive and leftist activists, who are often their real targets, have learned to defuse and expose them without becoming their foils. Unfortunately, the Jewish objectors to their presence at the LGBT Center didn't have those skills.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:04:51am |
re: #244 Charles
This is a very transparent lie. The people who are telling you that yfrog "locks out" an account after 3 tries are simply making it up. The only way they could possibly know that is if they actually tried it themselves. And what "account" could be locked? These attempts would be semi-random - it would not be possible to tie them to a specific account.
The technical term for this kind of excuse-making is "horse shit."
But look for them to latch onto it like a tick, because otherwise the ball's in their court and they now have to prove that the picture could only have come from Weiner and not J. Random Douchebag looking to create a "scandal" for fun and profit.
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Only The Lurker Knows Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:05:44am |
Morning Lizards. Jon schools the Donald on New York Pizza Etiquette.
Wants to See Donald's Long Form Birth Certificate because he now doesn't believe he was born in New York.
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RadicalModerate Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:05:55am |
This week's edition of "What right-wing domestic terrorism?" comes to us from the state of Colorado:
'Sovereign Citizen' Allegedly Sends White Powder To Feds Handling His Back Taxes Case
A man in Colorado was arrested Tuesday after he allegedly sent a manila envelope filled with white powder to state officials who were handling his back taxes case.
The envelope, which contained what turned out to be baking soda, also contained a 32-page letter that disputed the charges, and used language associated with the sovereign citizen movement, according to prosecutors.
[...]
According to the arrest affidavit, the letter in the envelope was made up of 32 pages of "rhetoric associated with a sovereign citizen typically available on the internet," CNN reports."O'Neill has sent several documents that express his views as a sovereign citizen, and he believes that he does not have to pay state or federal taxes," wrote FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force Officer James Colyer.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:06:07am |
re: #244 Charles
This is a very transparent lie. The people who are telling you that yfrog "locks out" an account after 3 tries are simply making it up. The only way they could possibly know that is if they actually tried it themselves. And what "account" could be locked? These attempts would be semi-random - it would not be possible to tie them to a specific account.
The technical term for this kind of excuse-making is "horse shit."
And they want so badly for it to be true, because then they can attempt to return the blame back where they think it belongs and string along this ailing nontroversy. Heaven forbid that the man actually be innocent of wrongdoing and that yfrog be a terribly insecure service.
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:06:46am |
re: #241 Alouette
I really miss the debug/step feature that we used to have for Fortran. I wish we had something that simple to use in Windows. The "debug" "feature" for Visual Basic is so fucking complicated, I have not been able to set up a reliable testing area.
They even disabled Response.Write for debugging. Assholes.
I love the debugging support provided by most Common Lisp implementations. Seems like "modern" languages took a big step back on that front.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:07:06am |
Drudge pimping for Ron Paul this morning...
Ron Paul warns of 'dictatorship in Washington DC'
GOP Presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) on Tuesday warned of too much "dictatorship in Washington D.C." while on a campaign stop in Mason City, Iowa."We're not on the verge of having a king, but we are on the verge of having way too much dictatorship in Washington, D.C.," Paul said, comparing the U.S.'s current situation to a Biblical tale in which the ancient Israelites demanded, against their own good, that a king rule their land instead of God.
"Our rights come from our creator, not our government," added Paul according to the The Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier.
Anyone know what biblical tale he's referencing? Didn't the Israelis always have kings? Was King David a mistake?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:07:42am |
re: #245 Ericus58
Indeed.
I've not seen as yet any additional information in regards as to this strain being one that could occur in nature on it's own or require an intervention; as in a lab setting.
I assume it just evolved.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:07:57am |
re: #251 McSpiff
I love the debugging support provided by most Common Lisp implementations. Seems like "modern" languages took a big step back on that front.
I was the only person in my Intro to Artificial Intelligence class to ace the Common LISP portion of the class. I love that language, it's incredibly powerful. Newer is not always better in the Computer Science world.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:08:31am |
re: #252 Killgore Trout
Drudge pimping for Ron Paul this morning...
Ron Paul warns of 'dictatorship in Washington DC'
Anyone know what biblical tale he's referencing? Didn't the Israelis always have kings? Was King David a mistake?
Look up the story of Saul, first king of Israel, in 1 Samuel.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:09:01am |
re: #249 RadicalModerate
This week's edition of "What right-wing domestic terrorism?" comes to us from the state of Colorado:
'Sovereign Citizen' Allegedly Sends White Powder To Feds Handling His Back Taxes Case
Well, obviously the poor fellow is unhinged. And as you well know, mental instability means he can't have a political motivation whatsoever.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:09:19am |
re: #251 McSpiff
I love the debugging support provided by most Common Lisp implementations. Seems like "modern" languages took a big step back on that front.
Another great feature of Fortran was that you could peek into the registers.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:10:34am |
re: #241 Alouette
I really miss the debug/step feature that we used to have for Fortran. I wish we had something that simple to use in Windows. The "debug" "feature" for Visual Basic is so fucking complicated, I have not been able to set up a reliable testing area.
They even disabled Response.Write for debugging. Assholes.
Heh. I remember using debug as well. Including spending three days trying to trace an old bug that turned out to be a memory overflow.
Never tried the equivalents in VB and such more than once since they pretty much were awful and luckily my scripts were not that complex. For the latter I basically ended up temporarily imbedding "PRINT" statements all over and using that to trace the progress of the program.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:10:45am |
re: #252 Killgore Trout
Drudge pimping for Ron Paul this morning...
Ron Paul warns of 'dictatorship in Washington DC'
Anyone know what biblical tale he's referencing? Didn't the Israelis always have kings? Was King David a mistake?
The Israelites did not always have a King. The Judges and Prophets were their leaders. They wished for a King like other nations, and sent the prophet Samuel to search for Saul.
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:12:07am |
re: #254 thedopefishlives
I was the only person in my Intro to Artificial Intelligence class to ace the Common LISP portion of the class. I love that language, it's incredibly powerful. Newer is not always better in the Computer Science world.
Its really true. I know the syntax really throws some people off, but if you can get past that its got some really neat ideas built into it. I've never seen anything like CLOS, its object system.
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:12:07am |
re: #244 Charles
This is a very transparent lie. The people who are telling you that yfrog "locks out" an account after 3 tries are simply making it up. The only way they could possibly know that is if they actually tried it themselves. And what "account" could be locked? These attempts would be semi-random - it would not be possible to tie them to a specific account.
The technical term for this kind of excuse-making is "horse shit."
To be fair, yfrog could say ... if I get 3 consecutive wrong emails for twitter user foobar.*@yfrog.com then do something. Remember, the twitter name doesn't allow dots, so anything after the dot they consider their "secret".
There's no proof they were doing this, as I mentioned I actually did try 3 invalid emails (only first part to the first dot was valid) and on the 4th try I was able to post (I knew what the correct email was, this was another test).
So I tried that (around 3pm EST) yesterday and I tried exactly 3 wrong emails.
Also, if they did "lock out" something, they would need to say if this was permanent or temporary. The yfrog UI is very simple, and I doubt they had a "restore my MMS feature" button. Also, this just opens it to a horrible denial of service attack that is too simple to do.
People forget that's why websites use captchas when you try too many times instead of locking out your account right away. Since this is an asynchronous method via email systems, you can't challenge the user that way in a non trivial manner (you could, but I'm not going to get into that now).
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:12:27am |
re: #245 Ericus58
Indeed.
I've not seen as yet any additional information in regards as to this strain being one that could occur in nature on it's own or require an intervention; as in a lab setting.
Want to know something funny?
If you start with a bacteria and let it evolve and mutate in near-optimal conditions, it will produce your desired mutation faster than we can actually achieve implantation in a bacteria-- because it takes us so much time to isolate, analyze, and do the implantation. However, of the naturally-produced bacteria, we don't have the technology to analyze and find that one desired stain out of all the others.
Luckily for us, the lethal forms are generally less competitive with their siblings, because bacteria are producing absolutely lethal versions of themselves every second-- but one bacteria on its own can't do much of anything.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:12:50am |
re: #258 oaktree
Heh. I remember using debug as well. Including spending three days trying to trace an old bug that turned out to be a memory overflow.
Never tried the equivalents in VB and such more than once since they pretty much were awful and luckily my scripts were not that complex. For the latter I basically ended up temporarily imbedding "PRINT" statements all over and using that to trace the progress of the program.
I used to do that but it's disabled in the version of VB that we are currently using. M$ want you to use their "test environment" but it's so freaking impossible to set up, they want you to call one of their MCSE techs to come and set it up for you.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:13:19am |
re: #255 thedopefishlives
Look up the story of Saul, first king of Israel, in 1 Samuel.
The main challenge Saul encounters is his lack of divine approval; he is portrayed negatively as soon as David is added to the narrative.[7] At this point Saul is rejected and the Spirit of the Lord is replaced by an "evil spirit" explained in 1 Samuel 16:14. In contrast, once David is anointed, "the spirit of the Lord comes upon [him]."[7] David's anointment differs from Saul's because it is relatively unfailing throughout the narrative despite David's shortcomings, such as his adultery with Bathsheba and murder of Uriah.
Ah, ok. I'd never heard of that before.
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RadicalModerate Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:14:04am |
Dammit. Looks like the tornadoes that hit Massachusetts yesterday were worse than I originally thought. Four confirmed deaths, and it looks like it did some significant damage to more than a few houses in a residential neighborhood in Springfield.
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McSpiff Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:14:37am |
re: #263 Alouette
I used to do that but it's disabled in the version of VB that we are currently using. M$ want you to use their "test environment" but it's so freaking impossible to set up, they want you to call one of their MCSE techs to come and set it up for you.
Gotta love vendor lock-in...
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:14:56am |
re: #260 McSpiff
Its really true. I know the syntax really throws some people off, but if you can get past that its got some really neat ideas built into it. I've never seen anything like CLOS, its object system.
Another language that I enjoyed learning to use was Haskell. It's an extremely powerful functional programming language that can do nifty things with infinite series.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:15:58am |
re: #263 Alouette
I used to do that but it's disabled in the version of VB that we are currently using. M$ want you to use their "test environment" but it's so freaking impossible to set up, they want you to call one of their MCSE techs to come and set it up for you.
:p Blech.
I haven't been working directly in VB in a while. Most of my scriptwork these days is SQL server stuff and the occasional script buried in an SSIS package.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:18:47am |
Religion has always been an important part of American politics but I think it's starting to get a little weird. Glenn Beck, fox news, WND and even Ron Paul are basing their agenda on strange Biblical prophecies. I think it's getting to be a bit much.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:20:54am |
Speaking of Glenn Beck
Exclusive: Glenn Beck’s Last Day On Fox News Will Be June 30th
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:21:12am |
re: #268 oaktree
:p Blech.
I haven't been working directly in VB in a while. Most of my scriptwork these days is SQL server stuff and the occasional script buried in an SSIS package.
M$ doesn't support VB any more. They want everybody to move into .NET and buy their Enterprise suite. Here we are still using classic ASP scripts. But at least we have Dreamweaver and not Visual Studio.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:22:04am |
In the past month, ratings for Beck’s ratings saw a double digit decline; his 5PM show was down 15% in P2+ and down 30% in 25-54, the most of any show on Fox News in May. According to a Fox News spokesperson, no replacement has yet been named.
His show has become so strange I can't even bother watching the Media Matters clips anymore.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:24:09am |
re: #269 Killgore Trout
It ties into the whole exceptionalism thing, too. People are claiming the US has some sort of destiny, but not a destiny we really have to work for, more one that will always somehow magically keep us strong as long as we remain socially conservative.
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Targetpractice Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:24:34am |
re: #270 Killgore Trout
Speaking of Glenn Beck
Exclusive: Glenn Beck’s Last Day On Fox News Will Be June 30th
Wonder if he'll finally have that big meltdown that he's been building up to on the final show?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:25:01am |
re: #273 Obdicut
It ties into the whole exceptionalism thing, too. People are claiming the US has some sort of destiny, but not a destiny we really have to work for, more one that will always somehow magically keep us strong as long as we remain socially conservative.
Good observation.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:26:34am |
re: #274 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Wonder if he'll finally have that big meltdown that he's been building up to on the final show?
I kind of doubt it. I think his final meltdown happened long ago but they kept him on the air anyways. It's all sort of anticlimactic at this point.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:27:24am |
re: #271 Alouette
M$ doesn't support VB any more. They want everybody to move into .NET and buy their Enterprise suite. Here we are still using classic ASP scripts. But at least we have Dreamweaver and not Visual Studio.
Not to mention all the different flavors of VB that were running around at one time. I had VB6 code, VBscript code in my DTS packages, plus the VB that was essentially what the background macro support was in the various Office products like Excel. And there were subtle syntax differences among them. To the point I had a VB source book around simply to check which syntax I had to use for whatever I was trying to do.
And then you'd put it together and get caught in DLL hell...
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Targetpractice Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:30:10am |
re: #276 Killgore Trout
I kind of doubt it. I think his final meltdown happened long ago but they kept him on the air anyways. It's all sort of anticlimactic at this point.
Hmm, good point. Once you've seen him cry once on-air, it loses any real punch. Short of pulling a Howard Beale on the last day of work and tearing up the set or such, there's really no reason to tune in for the finale.
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abolitionist Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:31:35am |
re: #233 Killgore Trout
Lethal bacteria is new strain, says World Health Organisation
Spooky.
2011 E. coli O104:H4 outbreak - Wikipedia (developing)
An ongoing Escherichia coli O104:H4 bacterial outbreak began in Germany in May 2011.
I had a very vivid and unusual dream last night, which is rare for me, and in my experience is often related to food.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:34:50am |
re: #186 Obdicut
I see liberal loonies called out here, like Sean Penn's showboating and Michael Moore's idiocy. That there's a general bias in TV shows towards mainstream 'liberalism' I have no doubt. But bias in a show like Futurama or the Simpsons against the GOP are nowhere near the effect of Fox News or the rest of Murdoch's media empire.But bias in actual news reporting is far, far more important than bias in movies and TV.
I don't think it's going to change, and I think calling it 'bias' is a little odd.
First your assertion the news is more far more important than serial television on public perception may or may not be true. Series television prides itself on cultural impact often rightly so. Like that gay marriage thing. I'd call that assertion subjective at best.
Second as an independent I feel free to hammer Fox and Hollywood in the same context.
Here's why I call it bias, and it's really not odd at all. I'm agreeing with some of the assertions of those interviewed, as I take them at their word. Then we likely agree that bias on the basis of ethnicity, religion, and sexual preferences is inappropriate in many ways, and as you say in hiring.
I'm glad we agree partisan/political bias is is awful in terms of hiring practices. I say it does harm as bias tends to do in other ways too. Like getting in the way of political discourse and open minded thinking.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:42:37am |
re: #280 Rightwingconspirator
First your assertion the news is more far more important than serial television on public perception may or may not be true. Series television prides itself on cultural impact often rightly so. Like that gay marriage thing. I'd call that assertion subjective at best.
What about the gay marriage is subjective?
I'm glad we agree partisan/political bias is is awful in terms of hiring practices. I say it does harm as bias tends to do in other ways too. Like getting in the way of political discourse and open minded thinking.
But it isn't monolithic. What's being shown is a trend. That it's harder to get a show like 24 or COPS or V made is certainly true, but those shows still get made. And it's the presentation of culture, it's not asserting that it's fact. That's why, to me, there's a bright line dividing this from what is supposed to be the factually-based news.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jun 2, 2011 8:57:42am |
re: #281 Obdicut
What about the gay marriage is subjective?
I'm not saying gay marriage is subjective, I'm saying the assertion news is more important than TV in general is subjective. I used gay marriage in TV as an example of serial televisions impact on culture, showing it to be just as important as news. Depending on how you define important of course.
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allegro Thu, Jun 2, 2011 9:04:05am |
re: #282 Rightwingconspirator
I'm not saying gay marriage is subjective, I'm saying the assertion news is more important than TV in general is subjective. I used gay marriage in TV as an example of serial televisions impact on culture, showing it to be just as important as news. Depending on how you define important of course.
Well then thank goodness for our culture for a more liberal slant towards programming. If it was rightwing fundie we'd be in a Father Knows Best world and there would never be a minority or woman outside of a subservient role. How 'bout those I Love Lucy twin beds?
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 9:05:38am |
re: #282 Rightwingconspirator
I do think that it's important and healthy to have cultural identity and that that helps people who have been historically ostracized gain acceptance. But to me, that's a much more cultural thing as political thing. Kids these days are growing up much less homophobic because its out in the open, they're used to and familiar with it, they know gay people are just other people. It's pretty awesome.
I don't see how that connects to politics, except the politics that attempt to ostracize and vilify gays, and I don't think that's 'conservative' politics.
I think entertainment television has a bigger impact on culture, especially over the long term. I think that news has a much bigger impact on politics.
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Daniel Ballard Thu, Jun 2, 2011 9:10:01am |
re: #284 Obdicut
Popular culture shapes our politics. For better or worse of course.
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Obdicut Thu, Jun 2, 2011 9:15:54am |
re: #285 Rightwingconspirator
Popular culture shapes our politics. For better or worse of course.
Yeah, but it's in a lot more subtle and long-reaching way. Culture wins, in the end-- homophobia will shrink and shrink, becoming more and more fringe, in the same way that extreme misogyny has. But it'll still remain virulent, like racism and what have you.
But again, I don't see that as having to do with politics. The politics that say that certainl classes of people don't deserve rights isn't a healthy form of politics, and I'd expect those on the 'right' to attack those politics as much as I would from the left. I don't think that being anti-gay rights is properly a part of politics-- it's part of culture.
I'm basically saying I think there is a 'right' or a 'conservative' position that's free from homophobia and theocracy and the other things that are piled on it now. A real conservatism based in skepticism of the benefits of change and how we should go about it, rather than a conservatism based in the idea that we need to change radically backwards to a time that never existed.
That, to me, is the 'politics' side of the right. The homophobia and the theocratic elements I prefer to filter out as cultural, since I think if you removed them you wouldn't weaken conservatism-- you'd strengthen it-- whereas if you removed the skepticisim and insistence on not changing just for change's sake, you'd have nothing.
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