Historians Say: Sarah Palin Really Garbled the Paul Revere Story

But what do you expect from a bunch o’ eggheads?
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Right wingers across America are now totally convinced that Paul Revere rode through Boston ringin’ bells and shootin’ off guns to warn the British not to take away American firearms (it’s already become an impenetrable article of faith on the right), so this won’t make any difference to them. But historians agree: Palin’s account was just goofy.

“He didn’t warn the British,” said James Giblin, author of “The Many Rides of Paul Revere.” “That’s her most obvious blooper.”

During her “One Nation Tour” last week, the former Alaska governor uttered a now-infamous recounting of the Revolutionary War hero’s midnight ride, telling reporters that Revere “warned, uh, the … the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells.” She defended her explanation on “Fox News Sunday,” saying “Part of his ride was to warn the British that we’re already there — that, ‘Hey, you’re not going to succeed. ‘”

Experts agree that warning the British — Revere was an American patriot, remember, he was against the folks across the pond — was not crucial to the midnight ride.

“Revere’s assignment that night was to go to Lexington to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were moving in that direction from Boston,” explained Kristin Peszka, director of interpretation and visitor’s services at the Paul Revere House, which Palin visited Thursday. (Peszka noted that Palin offered her convoluted account before touring the historic site.)

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149 comments

1 windsagio  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:25:55pm

Pfff. "Historians".

Next they'll be listening to "Scientists".

2 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:27:05pm

What they heck do they know with their schooling and their books? The only book that matters is the Bible, and the Bible says that American patriots had God-given second amendment rights that the Brits needed to be warned about.

3 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:27:48pm

"Historians" are just academic elitists wanting to overthrow our American way of life!!

And commies to boot!!!

4 makeitstop  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:28:08pm

re: #1 windsagio

Pfff. "Historians".

Next they'll be listening to "Scientists".

Historians and scientists are dismissed just as easily as Trump dismissed economists.

Smart people are stupid.
/

5 Targetpractice  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:29:26pm

Who are you going to believe: Some ivory tower, elitist historian whose invested in seeing Palin fail OR a woman who lives and breathes America every day?!

6 theheat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:31:43pm

It's all about job creation, and not buying so much foreign oil. Because God put oil under the ground so we don't have to pal around with terrorists. That's why were not monkeys! If people spent more time reading the Bible it wouldn't matter whatever that Longhandle guy wrote about Paul Revere and the Raiders, because God tells you the truth. All the truth you'll ever need. And our forefathers knew that, and that's why they all read the Bible.

7 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:32:03pm

But what about Revere's defense of the Second Amendment?

8 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:33:23pm

re: #7 darthstar

But what about Revere's defense of the Second Amendment?

that was all last week dude...I imagine the strain of originality when it comes to Palin

9 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:34:25pm

Dave? Dave's not here. (he should have married someone who could use contractions properly anyway)

10 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:34:36pm

Says a lot that this is even a topic of discussion in America.

But I gues it beats Weiner's weiner for the time being...

11 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:37:00pm

re: #9 darthstar


Should've moved the money to an account in his own name...

12 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:37:10pm

re: #10 ralphieboy

Says a lot that this is even a topic of discussion in America.

But I gues it beats Weiner's weiner for the time being...

I'd call it a draw...pop news

13 Mark Winter  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:39:48pm

"I know my American history" (Palin)

She's so right. She should claim exclusivity rights.

14 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:40:07pm

I know it's last thread's topic, but from the comments on Ta-Nehisi Coates's blog post on Weiner's admission:

Worst offense of Anthony Weiner?

1) Sending icky, inappropriate photos to young girls.
2) Lying about it for days.
3) Giving Breitbart a chance to put his name behind something truthful.

Ugh, Anthony Weiner sucks.

15 mr.fusion  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:41:54pm

She looked like a fourth grader in front of the class who'd forgotten to read their homework the night before......it's just so painful to watch

16 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:42:02pm

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

I know it's last thread's topic, but from the comments on Ta-Nehisi Coates's blog post on Weiner's admission:

Worst offense of Anthony Weiner?

1) Sending icky, inappropriate photos to young girls.
2) Lying about it for days.
3) Giving Breitbart a chance to put his name behind something truthful.

Ugh, Anthony Weiner sucks.

Of the three, no 3 is the one he should most regret...

17 theheat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:42:25pm

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

Ugh, Anthony Weiner sucks.

Sadly, I kinda liked him. Before. This.

I hope his wife kicks his ass. I would.

18 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:43:09pm

Paul Reveer's ride was to warn Breitbart about Anthony Wiener's penis!

19 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:43:09pm

i hear google will add twitter penis support to the next version of chrome

20 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:44:28pm

Right wing blogs are already freaking out because I won't apologize to Andrew Breitbart. I love it.

21 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:44:37pm

re: #17 theheat

Sadly, I kinda liked him. Before. This.

I hope his wife kicks his ass. I would.

he's still a decent rep...it doesn't have to go any further

22 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:46:07pm

re: #20 Charles

They can't admit that all this "scandal" amounts too is Bratfart's obsession with another man's infatuation of taking a picture of his penis.

23 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:46:08pm

re: #17 theheat

It really doesn't change my opinion of him much. I don't give a shit what he does in his private life. He's not a family values candidate so I don't think this really reflects on his political agenda. I don't care if he wears women's panties or has sex with men. I don't care.

24 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:47:55pm

re: #20 Charles

Right wing blogs are already freaking out because I won't apologize to Andrew Breitbart. I love it.

Either way the story came out, I suspected it would be a banner day for you...Enjoy letting the wingnuts santorum all over themselves.

25 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:48:09pm

re: #20 Charles

Right wing blogs are already freaking out because I won't apologize to Andrew Breitbart. I love it.

Why aren't they freaking out over Breitbart not apologizing to the many people he's maligned, lied about, smeared, and libeled?

26 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:48:10pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Same here.

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:48:30pm

re: #20 Charles

Right wing blogs are already freaking out because I won't apologize to Andrew Breitbart. I love it.

Tell them that if Breitbart apologizes to Sherrod, you'll apologize to him.

Or not. Whatever. The man is scum, and remains scum, regardless of having finally actually caught someone doing something genuinely wrong and embarassing.

28 thatthatisis  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:48:54pm

Weiner v Palin

Once again on Fox News, sexual escapades trump stupidity and ignorance.

29 Targetpractice  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:49:10pm

re: #20 Charles

Right wing blogs are already freaking out because I won't apologize to Andrew Breitbart. I love it.

Aw Charles, don't you feel bad about hurting their wittle feewings? Can't you see that the poor darlings are simply distraught that you're not dropping to your knees and kissing Andy's ass for all to see?

///

30 Robert O.  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:49:25pm

Scientists, historians, teachers - they are all elitists! We need REAL men of the people who are down to earth and cut from the same cloth as middle Americans. See how the Soviet Union installed Trofim Lysenko - a common man - as Agriculture Minister. America needs to do the same.

/

31 mr.fusion  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:50:22pm

re: #20 Charles

Right wing blogs are already freaking out because I won't apologize to Andrew Breitbart. I love it.

And thank God you won't......like you said, the man never deserves the benefit of the doubt

I just hate the fact that him being "right" about this completely negates the fact that he put up a picture of Weiner's junk for no reason other than to embarrass him......

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:50:22pm

BTW, I was meaning to ask, did any else here read "Mr. Revere and I" in elementary school?

33 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:51:59pm

re: #28 thatthatisis

Weiner v Palin

Once again on Fox News, sexual escapades trump stupidity and ignorance.

Stupidity - that would be Palin.
Ignorance - that would be Santorum.
trump - that would be Trump.
Notice Mitt's missing...poor bastard.

34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:52:10pm

re: #17 theheat

Sadly, I kinda liked him. Before. This.

I hope his wife kicks his ass. I would.

Maybe she doesn't want to kick his ass. Maybe she's down with foolin' around. Maybe they have an "open marriage". Maybe their marital life is none of my damn business.

Okay, no maybe on that last one. Their marital life really is none of my damn business.

35 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:52:22pm

re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist

I did... but I really don't remember it (Ben and Me, on the other hand....)

36 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:52:36pm

On the bright side, I think we might have flushed out some of the few remaining LGF wingnut ravers this morning.

37 makeitstop  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:53:14pm

Sadly, it looks as though Weiner will be thrown to the wolves by the House. From TPM's front page:

Pelosi and Rep. Steve Israel, campaign chief for House Dems, call for Ethics inquiry into Rep. Weiner (D). In other words, trap door prepped and ready.

38 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:53:54pm

re: #37 makeitstop

Most ethics inquiry wind up with a slapped hand.

39 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:54:01pm

it’s already become an impenetrable article of faith on the right

i'll repeat what my buddy phila once said:

if hillary clinton said that eating horseshit might be bad for the health, the next day the entire tea party would be gobbling it down as fast as they could and swearing it tastes just like ice cream

40 mr.fusion  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:54:26pm

re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth

Maybe she doesn't want to kick his ass. Maybe she's down with foolin' around. Maybe they have an "open marriage". Maybe their marital life is none of my damn business.

Okay, no maybe on that last one. Their marital life really is none of my damn business.

Great post

Same thing with that dude Lee who resigned 10 minutes after his photo surfaced......I really don't care about this stuff UNLESS they're running around preaching family values and everything else that entails

41 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:54:26pm

re: #37 makeitstop

Sadly, it looks as though Weiner will be thrown to the wolves by the House. From TPM's front page:

Yeah, well... they have to do this. No way to avoid it politically.

42 windsagio  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:54:32pm

re: #39 engineer dog

She should actually get right on that, then :D

43 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:55:36pm

re: #37 makeitstop

Sadly, it looks as though Weiner will be thrown to the wolves by the House. From TPM's front page:

I suspect Weiner discussed this with Pelosi before his press conference. Go ahead, have the ethics investigation...and get it over with - I'll admit everything I actually did. The Republicans will get their hard-ons over this, but eventually it will pass.

44 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:55:41pm

re: #33 darthstar

Stupidity - that would be Palin.
Ignorance - that would be Santorum.
trump - that would be Trump.
Notice Mitt's missing...poor bastard.

mitt romney will never have a future in modern american politics unless he manages to do something unacceptable with his penis

45 thatthatisis  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:55:46pm

re: #33 darthstar

Stupidity - that would be Palin.
Ignorance - that would be Santorum.
trump - that would be Trump.
Notice Mitt's missing...poor bastard.

Nah, Mitt's the "once again" :)

46 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:56:04pm

re: #37 makeitstop

They want to find out whether or not he was using tax payer assents to send dick pictures. I think that's a legitimate concern.

47 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:56:16pm

re: #39 engineer dog

What a mental image.... Do you suppose she could be talked into actually saying it?

48 makeitstop  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:56:25pm

re: #38 Obdicut

Most ethics inquiry wind up with a slapped hand.

Gotta hope so. Weiner can still do a lot of good. It would be a shame if the House leadership took the next step and made his fall complete under the pretext of 'cleaning house' or some such.

49 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:56:32pm

re: #28 thatthatisis

Once again on Fox News, sexual escapades trump stupidity and ignorance.

Remember, Murdoch is the publisher of Page 3, probably the most read page of UK "newspapers".

50 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:58:02pm

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

They want to find out whether or not he was using tax payer assents to send dick pictures. I think that's a legitimate concern.

Derp! Make that "assets". Gawd damned spellchecker foiled me again.
/"Yeah! That's the ticket"!

51 Targetpractice  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 3:58:32pm

re: #46 Slumbering Behemoth

They want to find out whether or not he was using tax payer assents to send dick pictures. I think that's a legitimate concern.

Ayep. There's no way of getting around it, they have to run an investigation, if only to avoid the appearance of partisanship.

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:00:43pm

re: #35 C1nnabar

I did... but I really don't remember it (Ben and Me, on the other hand...)

The horse belongs to a British officer before she is lost in a dice game, ends up pulling a cart, and then gets 'liberated' by Sam Adams, who gives her to Revere because he needs one for his 'work'.

The horse is a staunch Loyalist, of course, and much of the plot revolves around her gradually coming to accept and identify with the colonists' cause. I also like it because although very suitable for children, it gives a good sense of some of the more serious episodes of the Revolution--the horse is in Boston with the Revere family when the blockade happens.

There's also a very memorable and funny scene when Mrs. Revere carefully shakes out Revere's clothes after the Boston Tea Party and extracts enough tea to have the neighbor ladies over the next day for refreshments.

53 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:01:04pm

re: #51 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'd say they're obligated to do so. If I was working somewhere and using company resources to send dic-pics, there's a pretty good chance I'd get fired.

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:02:10pm

re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist

The horse belongs to a British officer before she is lost in a dice game, ends up pulling a cart, and then gets 'liberated' by Sam Adams, who gives her to Revere because he needs one for his 'work'.

The horse is a staunch Loyalist, of course, and much of the plot revolves around her gradually coming to accept and identify with the colonists' cause. I also like it because although very suitable for children, it gives a good sense of some of the more serious episodes of the Revolution--the horse is in Boston with the Revere family when the blockade happens.

There's also a very memorable and funny scene when Mrs. Revere carefully shakes out Revere's clothes after the Boston Tea Party and extracts enough tea to have the neighbor ladies over the next day for refreshments.

I would recommend the book to Mrs. Palin very highly--to read to Piper and then Trig, of course.

55 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:04:01pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

Sounds like I read it when I was too young.

56 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:05:42pm

re: #51 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ayep. There's no way of getting around it, they have to run an investigation, if only to avoid the appearance of partisanship.

It's a shark tank. Weiner knows that.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:07:40pm

From SuperFuzzBigMuff on The Atlantic:

Protip: Don't take pictures of your dick if you're famous unless the thing you're famous for is taking pictures of your dick...

The End..

58 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:07:49pm

The sad thing is that it shows no sign of abating at this point. Breitbart will be touted as a shining light of investigative journalism and passed around the networks to gloat

59 windsagio  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:09:08pm

re: #58 ralphieboy

I'm still kind of baffled that he was allowed up to speak before Weiner was.

60 theheat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:09:19pm

re: #58 ralphieboy

That's the real downside. The fact Breitbart had any hand in this whatsoever puts the ick all over it. Because he's icky.

61 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:09:54pm

re: #59 windsagio

I'm still kind of baffled that he was allowed up to speak before Weiner was.

Order of importance to wingnut media:
1. Conservative gasbags
2. Elected officials

62 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:11:43pm

Called the IRS... on hold ... "we estimate your wait time to be greater than 15 minutes" sez the computer...

"we apologize for the delay"...

(still on hold)

(I could write a thesis while I'm waiting)

"To protect your privacy..."

...

...

"You can visit us at irs.gov ..."

...

(so why is Bratfart obsessed with other men's penes?)


...

(I could have read a real American history text and learned about the real Paul Revere by now...)

"Our representatives will be with you..."

...
...

(do they want my money or not?)

...

...

63 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:12:16pm

Conservapedia now has two conflicting versions of the story, but my favorite is the one at the top;

[Link: www.conservapedia.com...]

Latest revision as of 16:26, 6 June 2011
Paul Revere

Paul Revere (1734-1818) was a silversmith in colonial America who was very active in Boston-area revolutionary groups such as the Sons of Liberty. He is famous for riding from Boston to Lexington, Massachusetts with William Dawes on the night of April 18, 1775 ringing bells to warn the British that colonists would exercise their natural rights to both bear arms and use them in an effort secede from the United Kingdom in response to Big Government bullying and interfering with Colony's Rights. Coincidentally, this also served to warn the minutemen the British were coming. Revere was captured before he could reach Concord, but managed to escape. His midnight ride was immortalized by a poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.[1]

64 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:12:16pm

re: #56 Amory Blaine

It's a shark tank. Weiner knows that.

Look at what you made me learn with that comment. LOOK AT IT!

Why Do Sharks Have Two Penises?

Totally SFW, BTW. No weiner pics at all.

65 windsagio  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:13:18pm

re: #63 ElCapitanAmerica

I have to almost think they're being trolled.

I mean, really?

66 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:13:20pm

Paul Revere sounds like a Southern Civil War "hero"!

67 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:13:35pm

First science now history, I wonder what aspect of reality we can expect to see the GOP declare war on next?

68 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:13:37pm

re: #62 freetoken

(I updinged you for getting the plural right.)

69 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:14:43pm

re: #67 jamesfirecat

First science now history, I wonder what aspect of reality we can expect to see the GOP declare war on next?

Math and economics? Has already happened though ...

70 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:15:23pm

re: #68 C1nnabar

Thanks, but I still got the apostrophe in the wrong place.

gah....

(I'm still on hold btw...)

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:15:44pm

re: #63 ElCapitanAmerica

Coincidentally, this also served to warn the minutemen the British were coming.

COINCIDENTALLY?!?!?

There is a special kind of shit stain at work in Conservapedia. A blight on both America and conservatism, they are.

72 theheat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:16:11pm

I'm a fountain of typos and misspelling of words I know how to spell today. It's like over-50 dyslexia, with a heaping dose of stupid. WTF? Taking a break. Later...

73 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:16:55pm

re: #63 ElCapitanAmerica


Once again the central image of the Tea Party shines through: loyal Americans defending themselves agsinst BIG GOVERNMENT.

In their minds, this (freely elected and constitutionally founded) government is the moral equivalent of the King of England and its Parliament.

And in their minds, it is our right and our duty to overthrow either of them elected or not...

74 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:17:53pm

.... crappy hold music playing in the background...

re: #63 ElCapitanAmerica


They'll have as many versions as necessary until they can prove Esther inerrant.

The Inerrancy of The Esther - the new doctrine of the Church of the Wingnuts.

****

"Our representatives are still helping other customers..."

75 Targetpractice  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:18:10pm

re: #66 ElCapitanAmerica

Paul Revere sounds like a Southern Civil War "hero"!

Not overly surprising. They've discovered that, much to their dismay, the revisionist neo-Confederate BS isn't selling well outside the Deep South. So now they've decided to hijack the Revolutionary War and try to rewrite it to fit their socon agenda. Next, we'll be told that the Boston Tea Party was meant to protest free trade.

76 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:18:21pm

re: #69 ElCapitanAmerica

Math and economics? Has already happened though ...

The GOP declared war on Economics the day that they told us they could decrease taxes and increase revenue at the same time.... or at least they did when they kept telling us they could do it as taxes continued to sink to historic lows....

77 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:18:39pm

re: #48 makeitstop

Gotta hope so. Weiner can still do a lot of good. It would be a shame if the House leadership took the next step and made his fall complete under the pretext of 'cleaning house' or some such.

Maybe you don't know everything that he has done? He says that he did nothing illegal, but I mean you can't take his word for it now.

78 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:19:45pm

re: #77 Buck

Maybe you don't know everything that he has done? He says that he did nothing illegal, but I mean you can't take his word for it now.

No we can't... still on the other hand, we don't have to "simply take his word for it"

Innocent until proven guilty is true of everyone whatever their previous actions, do you even have a crime you want to charge him with Buck?

79 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:20:36pm

ringing bells to warn the British that colonists would exercise their natural rights to both bear arms

"i say, old fellow, bells in the middle of the night now what do you suppose that might mean? That salvation comes by faith alone and not good works? That the right of kings to rule truly comes from god almighty himself and that it is sinful to question it? That the colonists have concocted some notion that the right to arm bears is somehow a natural law that they imagine that we are about to violate in some way, manner, shape or form?"

"william my good man what are you babbling about i do suspect some undigested cheese has given you the fever dreams. everybody knows that ringing bells in the dark of night signifies nothing more than that a fire has broken out"

80 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:21:06pm

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd say they're obligated to do so. If I was working somewhere and using company resources to send dic-pics, there's a pretty good chance I'd get fired.

why?...she didn't investigate Barney Frank and Chuck Schumer or even Fannie May/Freddie Mack themselves....and what of Charlie Rangle?....how many years did Pelosi protect his vote?....I smell a rat

81 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:22:48pm

I'll bet my paycheck that Pelosi and Weiner are not political soul mates

82 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:23:39pm

re: #78 jamesfirecat

No we can't... still on the other hand, we don't have to "simply take his word for it"

Innocent until proven guilty is true of everyone whatever their previous actions, do you even have a crime you want to charge him with Buck?

ask Pelosi, not Buck

83 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:25:24pm

re: #78 jamesfirecat

No we can't... still on the other hand, we don't have to "simply take his word for it"

Innocent until proven guilty is true of everyone whatever their previous actions, do you even have a crime you want to charge him with Buck?

Not me... but Pelosi wants to investigate...

84 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:26:00pm

This is just a conspiracy from the Lamestream Mystorians!

85 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:26:06pm

re: #80 albusteve

why?...she didn't investigate Barney Frank and Chuck Schumer or even Fannie May/Freddie Mack themselves...and what of Charlie Rangle?...how many years did Pelosi protect his vote?...I smell a rat

They;ll probably look into it because of the publicity. The most likely result is a slap on the wrist.

86 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:27:12pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

They;ll probably look into it because of the publicity. The most likely result is a slap on the wrist.

I believe that the Ethics Committe rules for sending weiner shots using government assets will involve a whack on the weiner with an i-phone.

87 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:27:34pm

re: #65 windsagio

I have to almost think they're being trolled.

I mean, really?

Guy that added that comment "RevearingPaul" added this comment to his edit;

Reveringpaul (Talk | contribs)
(clarified purpose of midnight ride)

However, after that there's been many edits and they haven't reverted that. One of the regular guys there did remove this edit he deemed offensive;
[Link: www.conservapedia.com...]

A recent revision of American history in order lend credence to comments made by half term Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin have led to discussion as to whether or not Paul Revere's ride was done in part to warn the British of the intents of the Americans to bear arms against them. To date, there has been no clarification as to whether or not the sharing of such intelligence with British forces would qualify as a treason.
88 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:28:17pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

They;ll probably look into it because of the publicity. The most likely result is a slap on the wrist.

I think he's in the clear after today....and I think Pelosi is too far out in front of a dead issue now...more for her own gig than any other reason

89 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:28:35pm

re: #83 Buck

Not me... but Pelosi wants to investigate...

An ethics investigation is not a criminal investigation.

90 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:28:55pm

re: #89 Obdicut

Did I say it was?

91 elizajane  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:29:28pm

re: #63 ElCapitanAmerica

Conservapedia now has two conflicting versions of the story, but my favorite is the one at the top;

[Link: www.conservapedia.com...]

Latest revision as of 16:26, 6 June 2011
Paul Revere

Paul Revere (1734-1818) was a silversmith in colonial America who was very active in Boston-area revolutionary groups such as the Sons of Liberty. He is famous for riding from Boston to Lexington, Massachusetts with William Dawes on the night of April 18, 1775 ringing bells to warn the British that colonists would exercise their natural rights to both bear arms and use them in an effort secede from the United Kingdom in response to Big Government bullying and interfering with Colony's Rights. Coincidentally, this also served to warn the minutemen the British were coming. Revere was captured before he could reach Concord, but managed to escape. His midnight ride was immortalized by a poem by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.[1]

The next step is to have this paragraph inserted into all American History textbooks used in the state of Texas.
You heard it here first.

92 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:29:50pm

re: #86 ralphieboy

You've just conjured up an image of a Mistress Nancy (in pleather) abusing Mr. Weiner.... brain wash time....

***

"Our representatives are still helping other customers..."

(amazing what one can imagine while on hold)

"... please continue to hold"

93 The Questionable Timing of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:30:18pm

re: #32 SanFranciscoZionist

BTW, I was meaning to ask, did any else here read "Mr. Revere and I" in elementary school?

Since I was a child in Britain, I was mandated to read the complementary work "King George and I," written from the persceptive of the orange tree he weds to his son. It didn't make a lot of sense, and focused excessively the United Kingdom's diplomatic efforts towards Antarctic penguins, but you quite sympathize with the tree; I don't think the poor thing really ever wised to what her husband was up to.

94 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:31:24pm

re: #62 freetoken

I called the CA State Board of Equalization and was on hold for 40 minutes. The most annoying thing was twice a minute there was some sort of spoken recording, making it impossible for me to be on hold and concentrate on other things.

(Because I'm one of the .001% of people that actually pays the "Use Tax" on out of state purchases, CA decided to go fishing and send be a bill to pay it for prior years. The corporation for which I paid this tax was incorporated in 2010, so they sent me a bill for 2008 and 2009--before it even existed. No good deed goes unpunished. If I hadn't paid it in 2010, they wouldn't have tried collecting it for prior years...)

95 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:34:36pm

re: #94 reuven

I learned long ago that the state of California FTB, BoE, etc. are amongst the most aggressive of any government agencies anywhere. Beware of them. They make the IRS look like little kittens.

96 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:34:52pm

Regarding Paul Revere, one has to read the text in the 1789 letter that he wrote that is maintained by the Massachusetts Historical Society.

In that letter Paul Revere himself recounts bells ringing, shots being fired and yes the warning the British that "There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.".

97 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:35:45pm

re: #96 Buck

Sounds like he threatened the British.

98 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:36:49pm

re: #96 Buck

Regarding Paul Revere, one has to read the text in the 1789 letter that he wrote that is maintained by the Massachusetts Historical Society.

In that letter Paul Revere himself recounts bells ringing, shots being fired and yes the warning the British that "There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.".

whatever paul revere did, it had nothing to do with gun rights

99 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:37:25pm

re: #96 Buck

Jesus Christ, Buck, seriously?

A) Palin said Revere rang the bells and fired the shots. He didn't.

B) He 'warned' the British about a non-existent number of Americans, in order to make them scared, after he got captured. If you seriously assert he was warning the British of the real numbers of American soldiers, you're saying he was betraying the revolutionaries.

C) The arms-- which included military supplies like flour-- were already mostly moved out of Concord. The purpose of Revere's ride was mainly to warn Hancock. After that, it was a show of force to let them know they'd be violently resisted-- but it wasn't about personal arms.

100 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:37:30pm

re: #92 freetoken

Good luck getting through. I always put a pile of books next to me when I have to make one of Those Calls.

I now return to the world of Frequently Dropped Connections. See you around!

101 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:38:10pm

re: #90 Buck

Did I say it was?

No but

"Maybe you don't know everything that he has done? He says that he did nothing illegal, but I mean you can't take his word for it now."

I'll eat my hat I'm the only one who reads that as a "nudge nudge, wink wink say no more say no more" suggestion that Wiener has done something illegal/should be investigated to see if he has...

102 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:38:22pm

the east side of AZ is burning down...several hundred thousand acres so far and the biggest, the Wallow fire is 0% contained...I could give a shit about Palin and Paul Revere

103 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:39:03pm

re: #99 Obdicut

Jesus Christ, Buck, seriously?

A) Palin said Revere rang the bells and fired the shots. He didn't.

B) He 'warned' the British about a non-existent number of Americans, in order to make them scared, after he got captured. If you seriously assert he was warning the British of the real numbers of American soldiers, you're saying he was betraying the revolutionaries.

C) The arms-- which included military supplies like flour-- were already mostly moved out of Concord. The purpose of Revere's ride was mainly to warn Hancock. After that, it was a show of force to let them know they'd be violently resisted-- but it wasn't about personal arms.

///Why do you expect him to get American history right? He's Canadian!

104 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:39:53pm

re: #97 freetoken

Sounds like he threatened the British.

Often a warning can be considered a threat.

"I am warning you!" "Is that that a threat?" "No that is a fact!"

Sort of thing. In this case there is no reason to think that SP didn't mean warn as in threaten.

105 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:40:50pm
106 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:41:18pm

re: #96 Buck

Regarding Paul Revere, one has to read the text in the 1789 letter that he wrote that is maintained by the Massachusetts Historical Society.

In that letter Paul Revere himself recounts bells ringing, shots being fired and yes the warning the British that "There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.".

buck, it is you or your "source" that have added the bells ringing and the shots being fired and the notion of warning the british to the quote extracted from the letter

the text may be found here, and the quote in context reads as follows

I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that.
When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,
and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared
to have the command, examined me, where I came from,
& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he as-
ked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if
I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. He
demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and
aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River,
and that There would be five hundred Americans there
in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.
He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us,
when all five of them came down upon a full gallop;
one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major
Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name,
& told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I
did not give him true answers, he would blow my
brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those
above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after
searching me for arms. He then orderd them to advance,
& to lead me in front. When we got to the Road, they
turned down towards Lexington.

107 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:43:47pm

re: #104 Buck

Often a warning can be considered a threat.

"I am warning you!" "Is that that a threat?" "No that is a fact!"

Sort of thing. In this case there is no reason to think that SP didn't mean warn as in threaten.

Sarah Palin said that part of his ride was to warn the British, that's not the case at all.

What are you arguing about?

I love how people keep bringing up that letter over and over, all you have to say is he was captured and lied to the soldiers by exaggerating the numbers who will oppose them. That's not what Palin was saying.

108 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:48:15pm

re: #106 engineer dog

There is a lot more to the letter. You exclude

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

Which sounds like warning shots to me.


What SP really said was less specific than Obdicut would give her credit for.

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."

It was a shout out answer, and not meant to be perfectly specific. I am just saying, that according to the letter, it was not wildly off.

109 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:49:59pm

re: #108 Buck

There is a lot more to the letter. You exclude

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

Which sounds like warning shots to me.

What SP really said was less specific than Obdicut would give her credit for.

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."

It was a shout out answer, and not meant to be perfectly specific. I am just saying, that according to the letter, it was not wildly off.

buck, you are a contortionist

110 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:50:27pm

Now, I have stated my opinion in full, and I am not going to defend it further. You have proven yourself to have a double standard in these matters.

111 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:52:32pm

re: #108 Buck

There is a lot more to the letter. You exclude

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

Which sounds like warning shots to me.

What SP really said was less specific than Obdicut would give her credit for.

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."

It was a shout out answer, and not meant to be perfectly specific. I am just saying, that according to the letter, it was not wildly off.

She's still wildly off because she says "we were gonna be free" when Paul's ride took place well before America as a nation has declared our independence....

Also the way she tries to turn American history into cookie cutter conservative boilerplate makes me sick to my stomach.

This is my history she's trying to rewrite Buck not yours.

112 Stanghazi  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:52:41pm

re: #107 ElCapitanAmerica

Sarah Palin said that part of his ride was to warn the British, that's not the case at all.

What are you arguing about?

I love how people keep bringing up that letter over and over, all you have to say is he was captured and lied to the soldiers by exaggerating the numbers who will oppose them. That's not what Palin was saying.

It's just people covering for her. Blatant. She's an idiot and the sooner the GOP diehards admit it, the sooner they will save their damn party.

But noo oo oo oo, we're gonna get all historicaltechnical about an soundbite machine's output.

Seriously, all she has ever done is throw in her typical "policy" soundbites with anything and everything.

It's utter ridiculous that it's even debated further. Except for the laughs. Yes, I enjoy the laughs.

113 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:53:34pm

re: #111 jamesfirecat

hahaha!...your history?
what a hoot

114 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:53:57pm

re: #108 Buck

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

Which, again, was not Revere, and was, in fact, the already-assembled militia. Basically, these are events at the end of Revere's ride, not what he set out to do, and not done by him.

Let's take what you're defending valiantly bit by bit:


"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."

Each of the above bolded portions are wrong.

A) Revere and the other colonists considered themselves as the British. Even if you take the modern meaning, he didn't warn the British by ringing bells or firing shots. He 'warned' them by lying to them after he was captured about the strength of the American forces.

B) He didn't say anything about not taking away our arms. Not anything. That's just totally wrong.

C) He didn't ring any bells or fire any warning shots. Other people did. He didn't.

D) The preparations to make sure we would be armed had already taken place; Revere was riding to warn Hancock and Adams and to assemble the militia for action. The arms had already been secreted away and hidden, which is good, because the British did, in fact, search for them and destroyed the few they found.

115 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:54:37pm

re: #110 Buck
Some conservatives aren't willing to change history to match Palin's stupidity...

What Sarah Palin Got Wrong — And We Did, Too

As the author of a book about Revere’s life, when I heard this, I groaned. From Revere’s own account, it’s clear that he didn’t fire a shot, he didn’t ring a bell, and he didn’t intend to warn the British of anything (unless you count the townsfolk as British, which they technically were for a little while longer).

The unarmed Revere left Boston in total silence. He muffled the oars of his boat as men rowed him to Charlestown, and he rode in silence after leaving Charlestown by horseback. He was, after all, on a secret mission to alert John Hancock and Samuel Adams in Lexington that they were in danger.

Only after scaring up two redcoats on horseback and turning away to Medford did he begin waking the countryside. He first woke the militia captain in Medford and then rode to Lexington raising the alarm — by shouting, mind you, not shooting or ringing bells.

116 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:55:10pm

re: #113 albusteve

hahaha!...your history?
what a hoot

I'm an American citizen how the f*** is Paul Revere's ride not my history?

117 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:55:19pm

Didn't Paul Revere defend the Cherokees?

118 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:56:55pm

re: #96 Buck

Regarding Paul Revere, one has to read the text in the 1789 letter that he wrote that is maintained by the Massachusetts Historical Society.

In that letter Paul Revere himself recounts bells ringing, shots being fired and yes the warning the British that "There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up.".

Where are bells mentioned in the letter Buck?

119 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:57:14pm

I honestly cannot believe anybody is arguing about this subject...it's the smallest of the small, just another re: #116 jamesfirecat

I'm an American citizen how the f*** is Paul Revere's ride not my history?

it's everybody's history...you f*****g citizenship has nothing to do with it

120 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:57:22pm

re: #110 Buck

Now, I have stated my opinion in full, and I am not going to defend it further. You have proven yourself to have a double standard in these matters.

Because you can't defend it further. It's a silly, stupid right wing talking point. And you probably know it.

121 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:57:28pm

re: #108 Buck

There is a lot more to the letter. You exclude

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

Which sounds like warning shots to me.

I've read two versions of that which are more credible than what you are saying; one is that it was part of their alarming system (the alarming system wasn't to warn anybody), the other was that there is no consensus on what those shots were about as they could have been militias training.

BTW in her semi-literate original account she said it was Revere doing the shooting and ringing.

People need to stop pretending to be historians just because they share links that are repeated over and over from blogs and do cursory google searches. Leave the historical discussions to the elitist historians and not the ignorant masses.

122 celticdragon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:57:34pm

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Paul Reveer's ride was to warn Breitbart about Anthony Wiener's penis!

You win the internet today.

123 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:58:16pm

... 30 minutes later..

"Mrs. S," comes online... takes a few minutes to get info from me... then sez she can't help me and I'll need to transfer...

... horrible hold music...

"Hello, I'm Mr. Z", has to ask for the same information all over again... then sez he has to put me on hold while he researches the issue...

... horrible hold music...

(why, I ask myself, can't this all be done electronically? Don't ask - I've tried already...)

...

(if Palin continues to rewrite history, I wonder what she'll do when it comes to the Income tax amendment).

124 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:58:42pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

Where are bells mentioned in the letter Buck?

Nowhere. Buck has a double standard when it comes to lying-- he lets himself do it whenever it suits him.

125 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 4:58:52pm

Cheesecake--check
Blintzes--check
Challah--check
Chicken soup--check
I'll prep the brisket and leave the salmon and sushi for tomorrow.

(We're gonna have two days of excellent eatin')

126 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:01:49pm

Evening Lizards. Many thanks for the notes of condolence last night.

127 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:02:19pm

re: #125 Alouette

And it seems like just yesterday it was Lag B'Omer! Time flies.

128 celticdragon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:03:19pm

re: #108 Buck

There is a lot more to the letter. You exclude

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

Which sounds like warning shots to me.


What SP really said was less specific than Obdicut would give her credit for.

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."

It was a shout out answer, and not meant to be perfectly specific. I am just saying, that according to the letter, it was not wildly off.

Pretty unlikely that the militia would bother with warning shots, especially since any shots at all would be seen as a provocation by the Brits. I would lay money that they tried to fire for effect, but most of them in line would have had fowlers and trade guns with accuracy to only about 70 meters or so. Anybody with a rifle would generally be off to the side instead of in ranks, since rifles took far, far longer to load. Riflemen were tasked with sniping at priority targets (like officers with gorgets, artillerymen and drummer boys)

129 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:04:07pm

re: #126 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards. Many thanks for the notes of condolence last night.

Have another. I cannot for the life of me imagine losing one of my brothers. I have nothing useful to say, but I hope you can find peace and source happiness from memory.

130 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:04:59pm

re: #129 Obdicut

Thanks.

131 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:05:47pm

... Mr. Z talks to me for 10 minutes...

... puts me on hold again...

... horrible background music...

(I wonder if Paul Revere was ever put on hold?)

132 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:05:59pm

re: #124 Obdicut

Nowhere. Buck has a double standard when it comes to lying-- he lets himself do it whenever it suits him.

maybe he's misinformed, maybe he's just wrong and stubborn...whatever...I hope we meet up someday amigo

133 celticdragon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:06:09pm

re: #121 ElCapitanAmerica

I've read two versions of that which are more credible than what you are saying; one is that it was part of their alarming system (the alarming system wasn't to warn anybody), the other was that there is no consensus on what those shots were about as they could have been militias training.

BTW in her semi-literate original account she said it was Revere doing the shooting and ringing.

People need to stop pretending to be historians just because they share links that are repeated over and over from blogs and do cursory google searches. Leave the historical discussions to the elitist historians and not the ignorant masses.


Thank you. I am an actual Rev War re-enactor and I give public lectures on period firearms. I have a minor in American History. I am sick of our history being used to bolster culture war grievances by right wing idiot politicians.

134 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:06:20pm

re: #132 albusteve

I hope we meet up someday amigo

Why?

135 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:06:38pm

re: #134 Obdicut

Why?

figure it out genius

136 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:07:33pm

re: #132 albusteve

maybe he's misinformed, maybe he's just wrong and stubborn...whatever...I hope we meet up someday amigo

If Buck is misinformed, its not for a lack of people trying to correct him.

137 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:07:41pm

re: #135 albusteve

figure it out genius

You're being rather obtuse.

Is it because you owe me a beer from our first conversation, where you mistakenly thought I was someone else and berated me for a long period of time?

138 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:08:39pm

Thousands of Palin e-mails to be released

what???

oh - i thought it said "thousands of palins to be released"

phew

139 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:09:42pm

Every once in a while something entirely inexplicable happens. Today someone de-friended me on FaceBook because I posted a link to Thierry Legault's photos of Endeavour with the ISS. "I don't like this kind of thing," quoth the offended one.

*shrug*

140 BenghaziHoops  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:09:48pm

re: #135 albusteve

figure it out genius

Hey Steve.. A couple of weeks ago I predicted that there would be talk of a Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook Trade. Today they talked about it on ESPN..
I hope it gains traction.. ESPN should hire me.

141 b_Snark  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:10:24pm

re: #105 albusteve

Jesus Christ dude...he simply posted what the letter said...nobody asked for a history interpretation...you are becoming comical

Steve, play some music.

142 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:10:45pm

re: #136 jamesfirecat

If Buck is misinformed, its not for a lack of people trying to correct him.

so what...let it go...these personal vendettas raise my hackles...it's just not worth it...I don't defend people for their point of view so much as I defend them because the issue is minor and I don't like the continued pile on

143 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:11:46pm

re: #142 albusteve

so what...let it go...these personal vendettas raise my hackles...it's just not worth it...I don't defend people for their point of view so much as I defend them because the issue is minor and I don't like the continued pile on

So what, I should just stay silent when he posts things that are so obviously incorrect that even Charles calls him on them?

144 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:12:44pm

re: #142 albusteve

Steve, you're extremely prone to vendetta yourself. You know that, right?

145 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:13:02pm

re: #140 HoosierHoops

Hey Steve.. A couple of weeks ago I predicted that there would be talk of a Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook Trade. Today they talked about it on ESPN..
I hope it gains traction.. ESPN should hire me.


I'm not ESPN but I'd hire you anyway....can you fold clothes?

146 b_Snark  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:13:41pm

re: #108 Buck

There is a lot more to the letter. You exclude

"We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much."

Which sounds like warning shots to me.

What SP really said was less specific than Obdicut would give her credit for.

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed."

It was a shout out answer, and not meant to be perfectly specific. I am just saying, that according to the letter, it was not wildly off.

Revere's purpose was not to warn the British of anything. His capture was nothing more than happenstance. His purpose was to warn the colonies.

147 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:14:03pm

re: #143 jamesfirecat

So what, I should just stay silent when he posts things that are so obviously incorrect that even Charles calls him on them?

something like that

148 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:15:52pm

re: #141 b_sharp

Steve, play some music.


done...

149 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:16:39pm

re: #147 albusteve

something like that

Sorry I don't roll that way...


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Trump Jerusalem Move: Tear Gas at Lebanon US Embassy Protest There have been violent clashes near the US embassy in Lebanon, in the latest protest against President Donald Trump's decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Security forces fired tear gas and water cannon to force back ...
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Trump Says He and Trudeau Disagree on Trade Deficit. U.S. Stats Seem to Be on the PM’s SideHair Furor just can't seem to catch a break these days....Despite Trump's insistence the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada, statistics from the website of the office of the U.S. Trade Representative -- the office handling NAFTA negotiations -- ...
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Blondie - Doom or Destiny (Official Video)Blondie performing "Doom or Destiny" from the new album "Pollinator".Out Now: blondie.lnk.to Follow Blondiefacebook.cominstagram.com@BlondieOfficial vevo.ly
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Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa - Black Coffee (Official Music Video) Official video for Black Coffee from the new Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa album Black Coffee. Pre-order: smarturl.it BLACK COFFEE is available to pre-order on CD and vinyl. The limited CD box includes 2 coasters, a postcard and an ...
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Sparks - ‘This Town Ain’t Big Enough for Both of Us’ (Live at WFUV) wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Sparks (allsparks.com) performs "This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both of Us" live in Studio A. Recorded 10.12.17. Host: Darren DeVivoAudio: Jim O'HaraCameras: Dan Tuozzoli, Kristal Ho, Monica Fafaul, Alexandra Brennan and Liz CarrEditor: ...
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