Outrage! Charles Johnson Won’t Apologize!

Gloating wingnuts demand apologies, in vain
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William Jacobson, one of the first wingnut bloggers to spread the ridiculous talking point that Sarah Palin got it exactly right with her absurd distortion of Paul Revere’s ride, is now outraged — outraged, I say! — that I’m not going to apologize to Andrew Breitbart: Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion: Charles Johnson: I Won’t Apologize to Breitbart.

At the end of Weiner’s press conference, under questioning, Weiner stated that he apologized to Andrew Breitbart. How interesting that Charles is incapable of doing the same.

Well, since I’m feeling generous right now, here’s my offer to the wingnut blogs and to Andrew Breitbart: I’ll be happy to apologize to the Fraud King, just as soon as he apologizes to Shirley Sherrod, Planned Parenthood, and ACORN, for smearing them with dishonestly edited videos.

Which I don’t expect to ever happen, of course. And I can guarantee that I will defend Andrew Breitbart’s next smear target, too — with no apologies.

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1 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:08:02pm

Don't hold your breath.

2 makeitstop  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:09:02pm

You big mean meanie!
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In all seriousness, though - Breitbart being right for once earns him no apologies. It simply means that even dishonest, lying pusbag ideologues can be right every once in a while.

3 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:10:13pm

Exactly my reaction. Brietbart demanding an apology from anybody, or anyone asking for one on his behalf, is goddamn laughable.

The man exists to smear. That he happened to get his hands on a real smear doesn't erase his total lack of ethics in the utter and complete fabrication of his previous smears.

4 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:11:28pm

If Breitbart was a reasonably honest person who made some mistakes and admitted them then he might be due an apology. Wiener was right to apologize because he knew Breitbart didn't hack his account to set him up. Those of us without that knowledge were correct to be suspicious. I wouldn't have it any other way.

5 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:11:51pm

re: #2 makeitstop

So can a broken clock. And it's right twice a day. Will I still trust it to accurately tell me the real time of day? Not likely.

6 windsagio  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:12:43pm

re: #3 Obdicut

Still kind of annoyed at Weiner that he folded and specifically apologized to Breitbart.

When they were pressing him on that he should have said, 'no fuck him.'

(we can only dream!)

7 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:13:06pm

All this episode proves is that Breitbart doesn't literally lie about everything. So what? If he did, things would be easier. Even then, the proof has been a long time coming.

8 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:13:52pm

I don't understand, apologize for what?

You don't have to apologize for not believing an unreliable source, and it's not like anybody said definitely that this was fabricated, just that it was highly suspicious.

Just like I won't apologize for saying the yfrog email "PIN" is easy to hack, even though ImageShack's CEO says it isn't (because you see he locks out the account after 10 tries, a claim I couldn't verify because he shut down the service).

9 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:14:09pm

I noticed some people lamenting on the earlier thread that this does give Breitbart a cerrtain amount of credibility. He finally got a big story that didn't end up being fake. I'm not too worried. Like Glenn Beck, Breitbart is doing much more damage to Republicans and he'll eventually implode or just fade away when wingnuts get tired of his antics. He's a self correcting problem.

10 sod  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:14:33pm

re: #5 Bubblehead II

So can a broken clock. And it's right twice a day. Will I still trust it to accurately tell me the real time of day? Not likely.

But do you dismiss it out of hand or check another clock first? Or maybe two other clocks?

11 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:15:32pm

By the way, I do think it's appropriate for Weiner to apologize to Breitbart. Weiner lied when he accused Breitbart of fraud, and he knew he was lying. An apology is called for.

I didn't lie to anybody, and I'm not going to apologize for disbelieving a proven liar.

12 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:15:40pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Yeah i have to agree. Breitbart never lost credibility with the wing nuts in the first place.

13 windsagio  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:16:17pm

re: #11 Charles

problem being it doesn't do any actual good, and may even do harm.

14 gummitch  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:18:01pm

I dispute the contention that this is a "big story". Watergate was a big story, Iran-Contra was a big story. Some congressman taking snaps of his underwear and mailing them to a young woman is not a "big story."

On the other hand, Weiner's admission proves that all liberals are perverts and godless liars.

15 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:18:08pm

re: #10 sod

But do you dismiss it out of hand or check another clock first? Or maybe two other clocks?

If it comes from Breitbart, you dismiss it unless and until someone with actual credibility verifies it.

16 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:18:29pm

It reminds me of my sister. When she does something wrong I have to apologize to her for not stopping any bad things from happening. This is why I have not talked to her in 3 years.

17 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:18:46pm

everybody wants something for nothing

18 windsagio  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:19:11pm

re: #17 albusteve

its great when you can get it :D

19 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:19:25pm

re: #11 Charles

By the way, I do think it's appropriate for Weiner to apologize to Breitbart. Weiner lied when he accused Breitbart of fraud, and he knew he was lying. An apology is called for.

I didn't lie to anybody, and I'm not going to apologize for disbelieving a proven liar.

That's what I was trying to say. Even saying that you'd apologize if he apologizes for say the Sherrod case is the wrong type of moral equivalency. It makes it sound like not believing Briebart is the same as smearing an innocent person with malice as he did in her case.

20 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:19:53pm

re: #11 Charles

By the way, I do think it's appropriate for Weiner to apologize to Breitbart. Weiner lied when he accused Breitbart of fraud, and he knew he was lying. An apology is called for.

I didn't lie to anybody, and I'm not going to apologize for disbelieving a proven liar.

exactly...now it's done and we can move ahead
(fuck AB)

21 celticdragon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:20:02pm
Charles:

I demand you apologize for exposing me as a ratfucking over-weight Lee Atwater clone with poor hygiene, a bad shave and creepy accomplices who all belong in a detention center! Your constant criticism of me is a violation of my 1st Amendment rights...or something like that! It is obvious that you are in league with the liberal Democrat Party/George Soros/Acorn/Van Jones smear machine that is out to ruin my reputation, and You will be treated as an enemy of all decent Americans! Consider this an order to cease and desist, or you will face the consequences and I will send Michelle Malkin to inspect your counter tops...

Anthony Breitbart

//

22 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:20:03pm

re: #17 albusteve

And their chicks for free....

23 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:20:39pm

re: #18 windsagio

its great when you can get it :D

is it?...everything has a price as you will learn

24 abolitionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:20:48pm

If Breitbart was holding any other photos "in reserve" (to be generous, but other characterizations might be applicable) then Weiner's very public apologies have rendered them much less valuable to him --or anyone else.

25 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:20:51pm

re: #19 ElCapitanAmerica

That's what I was trying to say. Even saying that you'd apologize if he apologizes for say the Sherrod case is the wrong type of moral equivalency. It makes it sound like not believing Briebart is the same as smearing an innocent person with malice as he did in her case.

I only wrote that because I know there's not a chance in hell he will ever apologize; that was the point.

26 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:21:12pm

re: #22 Cankles McCellulite

And their chicks for free...

wanna buy a refrigerator?

27 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:21:36pm

re: #21 celticdragon

Since Charles won't own up to it, we should write out own apology for him to Breitbart and see who comes up with the best one! I like this 1st version you came up with! :-)

28 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:21:44pm

re: #10 sod

But do you dismiss it out of hand or check another clock first? Or maybe two other clocks?

If I know it is broken, then yes I will dismiss it out of hand and check another source. Perhaps a better comparison should have been the Boy Who Cried wolf one time too many. Breitbart has called "WOLF" to many times and has been proven to either be wrong or out right lying to believe him.

29 celticdragon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:22:15pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

I noticed some people lamenting on the earlier thread that this does give Breitbart a cerrtain amount of credibility. He finally got a big story that didn't end up being fake. I'm not too worried. Like Glenn Beck, Breitbart is doing much more damage to Republicans and he'll eventually implode or just fade away when wingnuts get tired of his antics. He's a self correcting problem.

I would not be so sanguine about this. Propaganda is an astonishingly powerful force, and Brietbart is very good at exploiting certain cultural memes, even if it is smoke and mirrors.

30 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:22:34pm

re: #21 celticdragon

Pretty good, but you have to also repeat "Jazzy Ponytail Jazzy Jazzy" over and over like you're a stuck record.

31 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:22:43pm

re: #10 sod

Breitbart has such a demonstrated history of manufactured outrage that he has no credibility.

As I stated downstairs, he operates like a standard gotacha-rumor-machine. Throw out a bunch of allegations, and one or two of them will turn out true.

(BTW... I'm still on hold again w/ the IRS... over one hour sense I started this call.)

32 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:23:04pm

Weiner, in spite of his excesses trumped AB today...but the fallout will side with Andy as has been said...there are no winners in this lurid exercise

33 celticdragon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:23:23pm

re: #30 Charles

Pretty good, but you have to also repeat "Jazzy Ponytail Jazzy Jazzy" over and over like you're a stuck record.


LOL I will try to remember that...

34 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:25:03pm

pimf "since"

one handed typing is awkward...

35 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:25:27pm

re: #16 PhillyPretzel

It reminds me of my sister. When she does something wrong I have to apologize to her for not stopping any bad things from happening. This is why I have not talked to her in 3 years.

My husband has a couple of siblings like that.

36 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:25:36pm

re: #32 albusteve

Weiner, in spite of his excesses trumped AB today...but the fallout will side with Andy as has been said...there are no winners in this lurid exercise

except maybe for Pelosi, who wants to stand forward and prove what a soldier she is...spit

37 celticdragon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:25:42pm

re: #30 Charles

Pretty good, but you have to also repeat "Jazzy Ponytail Jazzy Jazzy" over and over like you're a stuck record.


I take it that must be his little tag for you on twitter.

Junior High School bullshit. That is about what I expect from him.

38 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:25:54pm

re: #31 freetoken

Breitbart has such a demonstrated history of manufactured outrage that he has no credibility.

As I stated downstairs, he operates like a standard gotacha-rumor-machine. Throw out a bunch of allegations, and one or two of them will turn out true.

(BTW... I'm still on hold again w/ the IRS... over one hour sense I started this call.)

I've said this before, but my husband says of Chris Matthews, "He's like a monkey with a gun." Eventually he hits something.

39 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:26:13pm

re: #34 freetoken

pimf "since"

one handed typing is awkward...

huh?...I type with one leg!...don't try it plaese

40 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:31:51pm

re: #36 albusteve

except maybe for Pelosi, who wants to stand forward and prove what a soldier she is...spit

I'm not a Nancy Pelosi fan, but she has no choice but to call for an ethics investigation. We're in the middle of a recession, and many people in Weiner's district are in a tough place and depending upon him to help improve things...and he decides to use his time to act like the world is his private locker room/frat house. It's a serious black eye for the democrats at a time when they were really gaining steam for the 2012 elections.

41 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:32:00pm

re: #39 albusteve

The cell phone is occasionally in the other hand...

Mr. Z at the IRS just put me on hold for the 4th time... This is after my originally holding for Mrs. S. for 40 minutes, before she put me on hold to figure out she had to hand me over to Mr. Z...

42 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:32:29pm

The morlocks at freerepublic are now resurrecting an old article based on zero fact about Huma and Hillary having an affair. I guess now they're going to go after Weiner's wife!

Hillary & Huma – A Dark Unseen Scandal Star?
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

To: null and void

The point is - back in 2007, Weiner’s wife was rumored to be having an affair with Hillary. This all ties in to Weinergate.

7 posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 11:33:31 AM by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

Ah, another instance of a liberal “feminist” who got where she is due to her husband. She’s the “smartest person in the world”, but has demonstrated virtually no ability to accomplish anything of note.

Meanwhile, woman who have actually accomplished great things on her own (repeat after me, libtards...Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin) are denigrated daily.

To: Arec Barrwin

Maybe hussein obama and reggie love can double date with hillary rodham and humma wiener?

11 posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 11:36:06 AM by biggredd1
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43 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:32:37pm

It is the anniversary of D-day.

44 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:33:19pm

re: #40 funky chicken

I'm not a Nancy Pelosi fan, but she has no choice but to call for an ethics investigation. We're in the middle of a recession, and many people in Weiner's district are in a tough place and depending upon him to help improve things...and he decides to use his time to act like the world is his private locker room/frat house. It's a serious black eye for the democrats at a time when they were really gaining steam for the 2012 elections.

oh please, she could turn a blind eye, just like she did with Rangle...she wants attention

45 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:34:36pm

This is an interesting glimpse into the deranged wingnut mind, though. To Jacobson, there seems to be no difference between Rep. Weiner and me. The fact that I believed Weiner's excuses and mistakenly defended him makes me just as guilty as Weiner himself.

Of course, they don't actually believe this crap. They're just in full-on gloat mode, and trying to press what they see as an advantage.

46 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:34:40pm

Weiner is beyond pathetic. The original offense, sending a raunchy pic, was too silly to be worth much outrage, but this has gone on for two weeks. He could have come clean any time about it, but he decided to dig the hole deeper and deeper and he ends up apologizing to the likes of Breitbart. I think he admitted it only because the facts were catching up with him. Even if he cares nothing for the truth, he really should have known it would come out eventually, and acted accordingly.

47 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:35:30pm

The ONLY person that needs to apologize in this entire episode is one Congressman Anthony Weiner

This entire incident is 100% on him!

48 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:36:14pm

OT: I just posted a page on "D-Day" Operation Overlord. It is the 67th anniversary of that momentous event. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

49 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:36:31pm

re: #43 Ojoe

It is the anniversary of D-day.

Which I'm sure Sarah Palin was all about fighting those evil socialists in Europe and showing them just what the free market could accomplish ... I mean its right there in the name National Socialist German Workers Party.... wait German Workers.... I bet that means they were union thugs to!

50 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:36:41pm

re: #27 ElCapitanAmerica

Since Charles won't own up to it, we should write out own apology for him to Breitbart and see who comes up with the best one! I like this 1st version you came up with! :-)

"I apologize for thinking you lie 100% of the time instead of just 99% of the time."

51 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:37:44pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel

Weiner is beyond pathetic. The original offense, sending a raunchy pic, was too silly to be worth much outrage, but this has gone on for two weeks. He could have come clean any time about it, but he decided to dig the hole deeper and deeper and he ends up apologizing to the likes of Breitbart. I think he admitted it only because the facts were catching up with him. Even if he cares nothing for the truth, he really should have known it would come out eventually, and acted accordingly.

he's a hoity toidy idiot....power degrades the weak and he is certainly a whimp

52 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:38:08pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel

Weiner is beyond pathetic. The original offense, sending a raunchy pic, was too silly to be worth much outrage, but this has gone on for two weeks. He could have come clean any time about it, but he decided to dig the hole deeper and deeper and he ends up apologizing to the likes of Breitbart. I think he admitted it only because the facts were catching up with him. Even if he cares nothing for the truth, he really should have known it would come out eventually, and acted accordingly.

He admitted it because the pressure started to bear for him to go to the authorities to look into the "hacking" (his words)
IF he did fill out a report to the police THEN it comes out he did it he'd be on the hook for filing a false report

53 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:38:13pm

re: #49 jamesfirecat

It is at any rate shameful to see the circus on this Weiner idiot on such a day as this.

54 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:38:26pm

re: #45 Charles

This is an interesting glimpse into the deranged wingnut mind, though. To Jacobson, there seems to be no difference between Rep. Weiner and me. The fact that I believed Weiner's excuses and mistakenly defended him makes me just as guilty as Weiner himself.

Of course, they don't actually believe this crap. They're just in full-on gloat mode, and trying to press what they see as an advantage.

stand firm

55 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:38:31pm

re: #43 Ojoe

Take a peek at my page: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

56 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:38:41pm

re: #45 Charles

There is no shame in assuming Weiner was innocent.

I'll repeat myself: the reason this has traction at all is because of the prurient nature of the issue. If our society wasn't so obsessed with outing its own repressed sexuality this wouldn't be an issue at all.

57 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:38:55pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

Don't hold your breath.

No, DO hold your breath until you're blue in the face.
Sucka!

58 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:39:02pm

re: #45 Charles

Even though you also postulated that he could be lying and would be disappointed if that was the case. Considering the source of this story, I don't see were you (or many of us Lizards) did anything worth apologizing for.

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:39:26pm

Is it to soon to call Weiner a douche or is there a 24 hour rule?
/

60 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:39:32pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

If Breitbart was a reasonably honest person who made some mistakes and admitted them then he might be due an apology. Wiener was right to apologize because he knew Breitbart didn't hack his account to set him up. Those of us without that knowledge were correct to be suspicious. I wouldn't have it any other way.

Big IF!

61 Ojoe  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:40:20pm

re: #55 PhillyPretzel

OK


BBL too

Historic Review Board meting tonight.

Democracy, you know.

62 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:40:24pm

re: #60 Floral Giraffe

Big IF!

Hi You!

63 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:42:12pm

re: #62 HoosierHoops

Hi You!

Back atcha!

64 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:42:50pm

re: #54 albusteve

stand firm

Just don't post an image of that on Twitter.

65 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:42:56pm
66 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:43:39pm

re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is it to soon to call Weiner a douche or is there a 24 hour rule?
/

some of the very same people here that savage republicans, conservatives or anybody else claim he has nothing to apologize for...bwahahaha!...what a world, eh?

67 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:43:51pm
68 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:44:40pm

re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar

/This is a sarc tag, for future use...

I have a feeling he doesn't have much of a "future"!

69 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:44:57pm

re: #44 albusteve

oh please, she could turn a blind eye, just like she did with Rangle...she wants attention

Sorry dude. I think you're dead wrong. Weiner made an ass of himself and left her no choice. And as a mother of 5 and a grandmother to have one of her most visible colleagues doing this kind of crap...not cool.

70 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:47:05pm

re: #66 albusteve

some of the very same people here that savage republicans, conservatives or anybody else claim he has nothing to apologize for...bwahahaha!...what a world, eh?

This big issue is an integrity one. Weiner lost his.

71 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:47:33pm

re: #63 Floral Giraffe

Back atcha!

I'm putting together an on-line petition to demand we get to see all of our Politicians in their underwear...It's our right as Americans.. You know they want to...
*wink*

72 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:47:49pm

re: #65 max headroom

Weren't you the one who wrote this:

I wonder how soon one of them recommends talking to Osama bin Laden to find a compromise?


[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

73 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:48:48pm

re: #71 HoosierHoops

I'm putting together an on-line petition to demand we get to see all of our Politicians in their underwear...It's our right as Americans.. You know they want to...
*wink*

That statement makes me with Cynthia McKinney was still in congress!!!
//I just threw up a little in my mouth.

74 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:48:55pm

re: #71 HoosierHoops

It's not ringing....

75 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:49:24pm

re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dirty grey underpants, OMG, no!

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:49:37pm

re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar

with=wish, pimf

77 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:50:10pm

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

This big issue is an integrity one. Weiner lost his.


Social Media! It's the new Watergate for politicians

78 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:50:28pm

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

with=wish, pimf

DRINK!

79 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:50:43pm

It's really easy to disagree with me or anyone else here and still keep your LGF account. All you have to do is not be a dick.

Apologies to Rep. Weiner.

80 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:50:52pm

re: #78 sattv4u2

DRINK!

K!!!

81 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:51:20pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

Social Media! It's the new Watergate for politicians

Yea no kidding, just imagine how Watergate would have played out today.

82 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:51:39pm

re: #79 Charles

It's really easy to disagree with me or anyone else here and still keep your LGF account. All you have to do is not be a dick.

Apologies to Rep. Weiner.

I quoted him in my #67. Sorry.

83 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:51:54pm

re: #79 Charles

It's really easy to disagree with me or anyone else here and still keep your LGF account. All you have to do is not be a dick.

Apologies to Rep. Weiner.

My point exactically

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I mean ,, Moi ,, EXAMPLE "A"!

84 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:52:11pm

Anyone with a clue watched Anthony Weiner's first 'slick- willy' imitation and plainly saw that he was lying, but there were no end of apologists for him on the net and in the media and no lack of lackeys advancing 'plausible deniability' scenarios.
Now that even the clueless and the lying liars who knew, but tried to cover for him have to admit he was lying, there will be no end of apologists telling us 'it's no big deal' when Weiner's judgement is obviously waaay off level.
Bring on the apologias- I'm laughing.

I'd say without qualm that New Yorkers could go right ahead and re-elect that simp (and they probably will) after the House slaps him around a bit, but the stupid things he has said and done in his capacity in the House affects me, way out here on the prairie.
Suck on it, Weiner!

85 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:52:16pm

re: #72 freetoken

Weren't you the one who wrote this:


[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Well Obama did deliver a personal diplomatic message to Osama with no strings attached and then arranged for him to have a private voyage to the middle of the Pacific Ocean, on a navy ship no less!

86 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:52:27pm

re: #79 Charles

It's really easy to disagree with me or anyone else here and still keep your LGF account. All you have to do is not be a dick.

Apologies to Rep. Weiner.

That was good Charles...... touche.

87 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:53:07pm

re: #68 sattv4u2

I have a feeling he doesn't have much of a "future"!

And Sir were correct.

Karma: -4


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88 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:53:24pm

re: #56 freetoken

There is no shame in assuming Weiner was innocent.

I'll repeat myself: the reason this has traction at all is because of the prurient nature of the issue. If our society wasn't so obsessed with outing its own repressed sexuality this wouldn't be an issue at all.

Well, what he did was tantamount to cheating. I consider phone/internet sex with another person a cheating thing. I mean if he was caught with S&M photos with his wife, the same reaction may happen, but that, at least to me, wouldn't mean anything.

As much as he lied to his family, he lied to US. Everyone. Quite frankly, I didn't want to believe he did it. I thought the photoshopping of the undies pic was a little far fetched, but I was willing to see how it played out.

Most at risk are his own constituents whom he represented. I don't understand why these men don't realize the totality of this. Beyond the Right/Left issue.

89 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:54:06pm

re: #87 Bubblehead II

And Sir were correct.

Karma: -4

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90 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:54:08pm

re: #84 Capitalist Tool

Anyone with a clue disbelieves anything Andrew Breitbart pushes.

91 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:54:37pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

Well, what he did was tantamount to cheating. I consider phone/internet sex with another person a cheating thing. I mean if he was caught with S&M photos with his wife, the same reaction may happen, but that, at least to me, wouldn't mean anything.

As much as he lied to his family, he lied to US. Everyone. Quite frankly, I didn't want to believe he did it. I thought the photoshopping of the undies pic was a little far fetched, but I was willing to see how it played out.

Most at risk are his own constituents whom he represented. I don't understand why these men don't realize the totality of this. Beyond the Right/Left issue.

Lying is lying. How can you trust a bastard after lying? I don't know.

92 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:02pm

re: #79 Charles

Well, Weiner was a putz.

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:04pm

re: #89 sattv4u2

WhatdidIwin!?!?!

An autographed Weiner photo!!!

94 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:18pm

re: #91 Floral Giraffe
I can't.

95 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:40pm

re: #84 Capitalist Tool

When it comes to personal issues - and make no doubt about it, a man flirting (even in poor taste) with another adult woman is personal - I will assume the accused of the inter-personal impropriety is innocent until shown otherwise.

That you seem to be so smug about this issue - which again has no significance (other than if he was using government property for personal use, which itself would be a pretty trivial example of that kind of thing) - only shows that you too want to make something out of another person's private life.

96 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:41pm

re: #79 Charles

It's really easy to disagree with me or anyone else here and still keep your LGF account. All you have to do is not be a dick.

Apologies to Rep. Weiner.

I can attest to that. And by the way Charles, you do know that causing a person to blow beer out of their nose is cruel and inhumane.

97 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:44pm

re: #92 lawhawk
That is one way of looking at it.

98 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:50pm

A well

Going to see if the Boston Bruins can find another way to lose in heartbreaking fashion

OTOH ,, I will be VERY happy if they win tonight

99 jaunte  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:55:53pm

re: #91 Floral Giraffe

Lying is lying. How can you trust a bastard after lying? I don't know.

This is known as The Breitbart Problem.

100 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:56:03pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

Gary Hart?

101 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:56:08pm

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

An autographed Weiner photo!!!

I'll have mine with mustard and relish

102 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:56:41pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Well, Weiner was IS a putz.

present tense, Law ,, present tense !!

103 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:56:41pm

re: #90 Charles
Howdy Charles,
My policy is to try my best to verify whatever I hear or see. I want to be a knower, not just a believer.

BTW, I barely know who Andrew Breitbart is, or any number of a host of others that I see referenced here.
Maybe I lead a sheltered life or just run in different circles.

104 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:57:04pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

He lied to his family first and foremost. Then he lied to his constituents. Then everyone else. Some constituents are far more forgiving for this kind of thing than others. I think he's going to emerge okay with his constituents, but his political ambitions beyond being a Congressman are done. He was thinking big - running for Mayor seeing as his path to the Senate was pretty much blocked by his mentor Chuck Schumer and Jr. Senator Gillibrand.

105 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:57:28pm

re: #99 jaunte

This is known as The Breitbart Problem.

The Boy Who Cried Weiner

106 [deleted]  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:57:40pm
107 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:57:58pm

re: #88 marjoriemoon

Married people do flirt with others.

Yes, they do.

Now, morally you and even I may agree that is destructive of the original marriage vows, yet it is hardly a thing of national significance.

108 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:58:06pm

re: #100 funky chicken

Gary Hart?

Yikes, Gary Hart looks like a prince compared to some of these guys.

109 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:58:07pm

re: #106 TunaKiller

You look fishy!

110 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:58:10pm

re: #89 sattv4u2

An upding.

111 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:58:10pm

re: #95 freetoken

That's a load... he has a demonstrated lack of exceedingly poor judgement and he is a so- called national leader.
We don't need leaders like that.

112 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:58:23pm

Incoming!

113 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:58:35pm

Heh..

114 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:58:47pm

I guess it's time to start watching the Spy.

115 McSpiff  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:59:06pm

Just because the National Enquierer has broke a story or two doesn't mean it isn't a cheesy superstore tabloid. Same thing here.

116 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:59:36pm

re: #114 Charles

I guess it's time to start watching the Spy.

One good thing

Some sleeper socks will get the whack!

117 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:00:11pm

re: #111 Capitalist Tool

Your playing indignant is phony through and through.

In this day and age people do licentious flirting electronically.

The perverts are the ones obsessed with making a national deal out of the Representative's partially erect penis.

118 lawhawk  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:00:44pm

re: #115 McSpiff

What? You mean that they're not the best damned investigative paper in the world? I mean, sure the NYT might break a story or two, but if you want the Hot Sheets, you go to the Enquirer. /Jay

119 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:00:54pm

re: #114 Charles

I guess it's time to start watching the Spy.

I love the spy, in case you were wondering!

120 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:01:21pm

re: #107 freetoken

Married people do flirt with others.

Yes, they do.

Now, morally you and even I may agree that is destructive of the original marriage vows, yet it is hardly a thing of national significance.

Flirt? If he was sending erection pictures to young woman, he was doing a hellofa lot more than flirting.

Let's put it this way, if I caught my husband doing what Weiner did, I'd finish his circumcision (you know, just to keep the chat timely).

121 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:01:31pm

re: #104 lawhawk

He lied to his family first and foremost. Then he lied to his constituents. Then everyone else. Some constituents are far more forgiving for this kind of thing than others. I think he's going to emerge okay with his constituents, but his political ambitions beyond being a Congressman are done. He was thinking big - running for Mayor seeing as his path to the Senate was pretty much blocked by his mentor Chuck Schumer and Jr. Senator Gillibrand.

thinking big is why his wife probably married him...I predict they won't make that bridge now

122 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:02:33pm

re: #117 freetoken

So, lying to his constituents is just a flirty thing?
I'm not 'playing' anything... Weiner is a dipshit plain and simple.

123 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:02:54pm

re: #103 Capitalist Tool

Howdy Charles,
My policy is to try my best to verify whatever I hear or see. I want to be a knower, not just a believer.

BTW, I barely know who Andrew Breitbart is, or any number of a host of others that I see referenced here.
Maybe I lead a sheltered life or just run in different circles.

If Breitbart told me it was raining and I could see droplets hitting the window, I would still go outside just to make sure he hadn't sabotaged my sprinklers.

124 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:03:25pm

re: #119 Floral Giraffe

I love the spy, in case you were wondering!

Nobody does it better
Makes me feel sad for the rest
Nobody does it half as good as you
Baby, you're the best

125 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:03:38pm

Weiner is a snivelling weakling...leave it at that

126 Political Atheist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:03:53pm

Socks lurking about?

Image: danger_-_banhammer_imminent.jpg

127 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:03:58pm

re: #124 jamesfirecat

Nobody does it better
Makes me feel sad for the rest
Nobody does it half as good as you
Baby, you're the best

OOh! Romance!
///kinda

128 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:04:05pm

I'm pissed off at Anthony Weiner. He lied, and got a lot of people to defend him, when he knew he was not telling the truth.

But what he did today took a lot of guts.

129 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:05:43pm

re: #128 Charles

I'm pissed off at Anthony Weiner. He lied, and got a lot of people to defend him, when he knew he was not telling the truth.

But what he did today took a lot of guts.

I give him credit for that...but had there been options like the other night. then all bets are off...he's still a decent congressman

130 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:05:45pm

re: #128 Charles

Guts he showed today.
Less than honest he has showed previously.
I wouldn't trust this man.
He has not proven himself trustworthy.

131 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:05:45pm

re: #79 Charles

It's really easy to disagree with me or anyone else here and still keep your LGF account. All you have to do is not be a dick.

Apologies to Rep. Weiner.

You have always been fair to the posters here..
I started as a joke a paper on our the flounces for the last couple of years..
Chapter 6 is How I dared Charles to Ban me...And he did
( It will be a great chapter )
Chapter 2...How I couldn't follow 5 simple rules
( It will be a page turner )
Chapter 14: Trolls and BBQ's.. My favorite Troll stories

Love your Site Charles.. And you are a good man
Props bro'
/Freak out haters.. Your responses can still make the book if you really work on it

132 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:05:48pm

re: #120 marjoriemoon

I agree with you that what he was doing was improper for his marriage/family.

What I am saying is that it is just another case of a spouse trying to play outside of the bounds of what his wife (and most people) think of as proper.

Yet it is not a thing that on a political stage is of importance to policy in this nation.

It just isn't.

There are 535 people who sit in Congress and pass laws. Many of them have undoubtedly been unfaithful in one manner or another. Semi-erotic electronically remote flirting I do not find as something to bring to the attention of anyone other than the spouse.

133 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:05:59pm

re: #120 marjoriemoon

Flirt? If he was sending erection pictures to young woman, he was doing a hellofa lot more than flirting.

Let's put it this way, if I caught my husband doing what Weiner did, I'd finish his circumcision (you know, just to keep the chat timely).

Yep...... I know my wife would frown on that kind of behavior, and react in a way I wouldn't want to contemplate right now.

134 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:06:04pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel

If Breitbart told me it was raining and I could see droplets hitting the window, I would still go outside just to make sure he hadn't sabotaged my sprinklers.

I get that impression from what I've seen in these pages over time.
Having said that, I'm fairly sure I've read him at some point, but don't remember anything worth my continued attention.

135 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:06:50pm

re: #128 Charles

I'm pissed off at Anthony Weiner. He lied, and got a lot of people to defend him, when he knew he was not telling the truth.

But what he did today took a lot of guts.

Don't know where the skinny little creep would keep 'em...

136 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:07:37pm

re: #128 Charles

I'm pissed off at Anthony Weiner. He lied, and got a lot of people to defend him, when he knew he was not telling the truth.

But what he did today took a lot of guts.

Not too sure about that one, Charles

I think he painted himself into a corner with absolutely no way out. As I stated, the longer this story went, the more he tapped danced about if the photo was him, the more pressure he would have faced to go to either the Capital Police or the FBI to loom into the "hack" (his word)

Knowing that if he did go there and what came out today came out then he'd have a much bigger legal problem

137 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:08:38pm

re: #135 Capitalist Tool

Don't know where the skinny little creep would keep 'em...

he needs a paycheck like the rest of us, and he did what he had to do...6mo from now nobody will remember or care about this incident

138 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:09:26pm

re: #137 albusteve

he needs a paycheck like the rest of us, and he did what he had to do...6mo DAYS from now nobody will remember or care about this incident

ftfy

139 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:09:58pm

I was on the phone this afternoon with the IRS for around 110 minutes, most of it on "hold".

To me, that is a whole lot more important than the fact that yet another man started to look outside his marriage for sexual excitement.

140 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:10:32pm

re: #138 sattv4u2

ftfy

he'll be Dancing With the Stars next season...donks are very forgiving

141 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:11:16pm

re: #139 freetoken

I was on the phone this afternoon with the IRS for around 110 minutes, most of it on "hold".

To me, that is a whole lot more important than the fact that yet another man started to look outside his marriage for sexual excitement.

So you were looking to get screwed too??

142 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:11:17pm

re: #137 albusteve

he needs a paycheck like the rest of us, and he did what he had to do...6mo from now nobody will remember or care about this incident

No, like the 57 states it will live on in the ammo box of the right's magical balance fairy. Next time a Republican gets caught hiking the Appalachian Trail, you will instantly hear a mighty roar of "but Weiner showed his skivvies!"

143 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:11:42pm

re: #139 freetoken

...and i've been having such a wonderful prairie- sun afternoon and you go and mention the IRS.

Gee thanks.

144 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:11:56pm

re: #139 freetoken

I was on the phone this afternoon with the IRS for around 110 minutes, most of it on "hold".

To me, that is a whole lot more important than the fact that yet another man started to look outside his marriage for sexual excitement.

Yeah, but it's been less than a year. Jeez...

145 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:12:31pm

Why should you apologize to Breitbart? You know, for someone who isn't supposed to be a big wig in the blogosphere, Breitbart sure demands a lot of apologies.

146 sattv4u2  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:13:19pm

And on that note

Back to THE Stanley Cup!

GO BRUINS!

147 Political Atheist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:13:32pm

re: #141 sattv4u2
LOL!


Internet flirting/sexting is compared to real "banging the hooker"cheating is like a parking violation is compared to a DUI with a crash.

148 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:13:33pm

re: #140 albusteve

he'll be Dancing With the Stars next season...donks are very forgiving

I'm betting he'll out dance both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Dominique Strauss Kahn.

149 Political Atheist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:14:08pm

re: #147 Rightwingconspirator

LOL!

Internet flirting/sexting is compared to real "banging the hooker"cheating is like a parking violation is compared to a DUI with a crash.

Sorry, worst sentence structure ever...

150 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:14:16pm

re: #147 Rightwingconspirator

LOL!

Internet flirting/sexting is compared to real "banging the hooker"cheating is like a parking violation is compared to a DUI with a crash.

LOL!

151 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:14:44pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel

No, like the 57 states it will live on in the ammo box of the right's magical balance fairy. Next time a Republican gets caught hiking the Appalachian Trail, you will instantly hear a mighty roar of "but Weiner showed his skivvies!"

ha!...probably true...I'm just trying to reduce this incident down to the lowest denominator...I really don't give a fuck what happens to him...an elitist like him doesn't want to hear my story and if he did he's assume I was an alien...the poor jerk is totally out of touch...the question is, how many more Weiners in the package?...sic em Nancy!

152 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:15:22pm

I hate the feds...they suck

153 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:15:39pm

re: #11 Charles

By the way, I do think it's appropriate for Weiner to apologize to Breitbart.

I hope Weiner writes "Fuck Andrew Breitbart" on his dick and then tweets a picture of it.

154 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:15:59pm

re: #146 sattv4u2

Speaking of playoffs- can't believe the Mavs are down 2-1 against the Heat.

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:16:25pm

Question: What is the over/under until Gloria Alred becomes the attorney for the women involved in this? They don't need one, but ya know she'll be there.

156 Political Atheist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:16:26pm

re: #153 negativ

With his wifes initials signing off. There seems to be room.

157 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:17:01pm

re: #153 negativ

I hope Weiner writes "Fuck Andrew Breitbart" on his dick and then tweets a picture of it.

I don't think we should rally 'round the pole on this one.

158 Ericus58  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:17:20pm

re: #146 sattv4u2

And on that note

Back to THE Stanley Cup!

GO BRUINS!

That was a heck of a hit, real trolley track stuff there.
Fasten yer seat belts!

159 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:17:43pm

re: #153 negativ

I hope Weiner writes "Fuck Andrew Breitbart" on his dick and then tweets a picture of it.

why is AB the bad guy in this?...explain to stupid me...he blew the whistle on a juvenile egotist in congress and he was right on...are you going down with Weiner?

160 jaunte  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:17:55pm

TheDailyShow tweets:

Yes, we will be "covering" #ShirtlessWeiner tonight on the show! No story breaks too late for "The Best Fucking News Team on the Planet"!
161 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:17:56pm

re: #152 albusteve

I hate the feds...they suck

Some people love them for that same reason.

162 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:18:02pm

re: #156 Rightwingconspirator

With his wifes initials signing off. There seems to be room.

Sockpuppet?

163 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:18:44pm

re: #132 freetoken

I agree with you that what he was doing was improper for his marriage/family.

What I am saying is that it is just another case of a spouse trying to play outside of the bounds of what his wife (and most people) think of as proper.

Yet it is not a thing that on a political stage is of importance to policy in this nation.

It just isn't.

There are 535 people who sit in Congress and pass laws. Many of them have undoubtedly been unfaithful in one manner or another. Semi-erotic electronically remote flirting I do not find as something to bring to the attention of anyone other than the spouse.

He couldn't have possibly just been emailing these photos without some phone or internet sex chat.

I don't think I'm a prude to think that goes far beyond flirting. Flirting is when you smile "seductively" or catch a glance with a woman at the supermarket or maybe some friendly banter and that's pretty much normal.

It may not have anything to do with his ability to lead or know his job, but people don't like lying of any sort.

164 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:19:27pm

re: #161 darthstar

Some people love them for that same reason.

I'll be long dead before I ever change my mind...corrupt pols and their MSM whores are ruining this country

165 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:19:54pm

re: #159 albusteve

why is AB the bad guy in this?...explain to stupid me...he blew the whistle on a juvenile egotist in congress and he was right on...are you going down with Weiner?

From what I can tell, Breitbart is quite an egomaniac and loose with the truth. But he's also just a person; I think there is a little bit of a proto-derangement syndrome developing.

166 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:19:59pm

"No, that wasn't my actual penis in the photo! That was just a representative Weiner!"

*rimshot*

167 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:20:57pm

re: #163 marjoriemoon

There've been some number of affirmations from his 'tweeties'...

168 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:21:06pm

Chris Matthews..
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

169 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:21:23pm

re: #165 Alexzander

From what I can tell, Breitbart is quite an egomaniac and loose with the truth. But he's also just a person; I think there is a little bit of a proto-derangement syndrome developing.

I see it down the middle...I don't give a shit about LGF bandwagonds

170 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:21:23pm

re: #136 sattv4u2

Not too sure about that one, Charles

I think he painted himself into a corner with absolutely no way out. As I stated, the longer this story went, the more he tapped danced about if the photo was him, the more pressure he would have faced to go to either the Capital Police or the FBI to loom into the "hack" (his word)

Knowing that if he did go there and what came out today came out then he'd have a much bigger legal problem

Actually, I'm wondering how much the lawyers had to do with this. He said it a few times that he was talking with his lawyers or legal counsel. At some point, they most have told him he had to come clean. Maybe he thought what he did wouldn't be discovered even by them.

171 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:23:05pm

re: #169 albusteve

I see it down the middle...I don't give a shit about LGF bandwagonds

Agreed!

172 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:23:11pm

re: #170 marjoriemoon

Actually, I'm wondering how much the lawyers had to do with this. He said it a few times that he was talking with his lawyers or legal counsel. At some point, they most have told him he had to come clean. Maybe he thought what he did wouldn't be discovered even by them.

Having dealt with more lawyers in my life than I ever wanted to, I can assure you that lawyers almost never tell their clients to come clean.

173 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:23:16pm

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

What in the hell is that supposed to mean?

I'm so confused.

174 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:23:33pm

re: #170 marjoriemoon

Lawyered up, is NOT a good sign.

175 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:24:05pm

re: #170 marjoriemoon

At some point, they most have told him he had to come clean.

Really? Why? What law could he have violated that would lead legal counsel to tell him that he should go out and publicly discuss this?

176 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:24:12pm

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

Lawyered up, is NOT a good sign.

People who pointed that out a week ago were told to shut up.

177 andres  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:24:33pm

Would you mind me answering, or should I answer them downstairs?

178 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:25:07pm

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Chris Matthews..
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

Gads.

*Bang* *Bang*

Miss!

179 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:25:15pm

On the bright side, we did discover a huge security flaw in yfrog, right?

Right...?

oy

180 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:25:22pm

re: #172 Charles

Having dealt with more lawyers in my life than I ever wanted to, I can assure you that lawyers almost never tell their clients to come clean.

billable hours...speaks for itself

181 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:25:45pm

re: #172 Charles

Lawyers, are, IMHO, at best, hired guns that YOU hired to be on your side.

182 BishopX  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:25:53pm

OT: The BBC has some awe inspiring pictures of the ash clouds from the volcanic eruption in Chile.

183 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:27:03pm

re: #178 marjoriemoon

Sorry, I was late to the party!:)

184 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:28:18pm

re: #182 BishopX
That will wreak havoc with the weather.

185 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:29:05pm

re: #181 Floral Giraffe

Lawyers, are, IMHO, at best, hired guns that YOU hired to be on your side.

You nailed it.

186 Kragar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:29:06pm

re: #172 Charles

Having dealt with more lawyers in my life than I ever wanted to, I can assure you that lawyers almost never tell their clients to come clean.

Never admit to anything, make the other side prove everything.

187 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:29:58pm

re: #6 windsagio

Still kind of annoyed at Weiner that he folded and specifically apologized to Breitbart.

When they were pressing him on that he should have said, 'no fuck him.'

(we can only dream!)

Yeah to this. Not least because it diminishes the people he really needs to be apologizing to, namely, his wife, the people of his district, his coworkers in Congress, and last but not least, any women he was bothering without their permission.

Breitbart needs to stop acting like he's an actor in this little drama.

188 BishopX  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:29:59pm

re: #184 PhillyPretzel

It's already big enough to cause flight problems in Chile and Argentina. I'm not sure if it's big enough (or positioned right) to have a global climate impact.

189 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:30:04pm

Evening all! Good day at work today as I closed out the old event with one last vendor sale. Made me some decent money and made both my boss's boss happy (my manager is on vacation this week) and my dad happy. Big win and one I needed.

190 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:30:05pm

re: #128 Charles

I'm pissed off at Anthony Weiner. He lied, and got a lot of people to defend him, when he knew he was not telling the truth.

But what he did today took a lot of guts.

Well, once a photo of you holding up a sign that says "me" appears,
it's either aplogize or see if the the former Iraqi Information
Minister is available for a consultation....

191 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:30:24pm

re: #182 BishopX

OT: The BBC has some awe inspiring pictures of the ash clouds from the volcanic eruption in Chile.

I love volcanoes. Thanks.

192 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:30:24pm

re: #172 Charles

re: #175 freetoken

It's not a matter of law, he didn't break any law, but of conscious which is a big part of his job still.

But Charles may be right! Although the scenario in my head was him trying to convince the lawyers that these pics weren't him and it didn't fly.

193 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:31:07pm

re: #181 Floral Giraffe

Lawyers, are, IMHO, at best, hired guns that YOU hired to be on your side.

a good lawyer understands the law by training...with experience they can calculate odds...after that they are like a disposable razor, because they do not have to be Hollywood articulate with flowery bombast to make a point...and if you think so maybe you should just go to jail and save the money...lawyers are like plumbers with a silk tie

194 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:31:09pm

Charles? Maybe you should say, "Okay, Andrew. I'm sorry. For once you were not a lying sack of pooh-pooh. But, we know... there's always tomorrow."

195 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:31:10pm

re: #11 Charles

By the way, I do think it's appropriate for Weiner to apologize to Breitbart. Weiner lied when he accused Breitbart of fraud, and he knew he was lying. An apology is called for.

I didn't lie to anybody, and I'm not going to apologize for disbelieving a proven liar.

OK, that's a point. Maybe apologizing to Breitbart is OK.

196 Ericus58  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:32:10pm

Satt, there could be hope for your Bruins tonight.....

197 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:32:17pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Good job. Loan me $3?

198 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:32:33pm

re: #192 marjoriemoon

re: #175 freetoken

It's not a matter of law, he didn't break any law, but of conscious which is a big part of his job still.

But Charles may be right! Although the scenario in my head was him trying to convince the lawyers that these pics weren't him and it didn't fly.

A good lawyer wouldn't even ask if the pictures are really him. It's irrelevant to their job, which is to advocate for the client. They don't want to know, because if the client tells them something that indicates guilt, they're ethically bound to recuse themselves.

199 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:32:38pm

I propose that a lot of people are letting their moral dissent (at the idea of a married person flirting online with someone not their spouse) get manipulated by meme-engineers.

There are very roughly 100,000,000 married people in this country. A significant portion of them will engage in flirtations outside of marriage, and a non trivial number of them will actually engage in sex outside of marriage.

I'm not saying it is right. However, the subject of flirting is certainly popular and any online search will come up with millions of hits, e.g.: Why Married Men Flirt

So why is the case of Anthony Weiner special?

Because he is an effective rhetorician for the Democratic Party, and certain vested interests don't like that.

200 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:32:41pm

re: #14 gummitch

I dispute the contention that this is a "big story". Watergate was a big story, Iran-Contra was a big story. Some congressman taking snaps of his underwear and mailing them to a young woman is not a "big story."

On the other hand, Weiner's admission proves that all liberals are perverts and godless liars.

In conjunction with the guy whose name I have forgotten who was posting shirtless pictures on Craigslist, though, it does suggest that politicians simply have no idea how to have affairs discreetly anymore.

201 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:32:57pm

By the way, Freetoken and Charles, my husband agrees with you. We've been... em... chatting about it. A little loudly :p

202 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:33:11pm

re: #186 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Never admit to anything, make the other side prove everything.

I tried that tact earlier and nobody fell for it...and if not, then what's that say about Weiner?...heh, people are stupid to let politics trump principle...our downfall in fact

203 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:33:18pm

re: #197 Capitalist Tool

Good job. Loan me $3?

I could. Though with that amount I'm betting you're kidding.

204 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:34:03pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

I could. Though with that amount I'm betting you're kidding.

Either way you're still on the hook for the beer.
/good for you

205 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:34:19pm

re: #198 Charles

A good lawyer wouldn't even ask if the pictures are really him. It's irrelevant to their job, which is to advocate for the client. They don't want to know, because if the client tells them something that indicates guilt, they're ethically bound to recuse themselves.

I have questions for Lawhawk now.

206 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:34:22pm

re: #201 marjoriemoon

Heh, point him to that Glamour article...

207 PhillyPretzel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:34:46pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards

208 andres  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:35:36pm

re: #177 andres

BTW, Cannadian Club Akbar, what I meant with "around here" was in Puerto Rico.

209 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:35:40pm

re: #199 freetoken

I propose that a lot of people are letting their moral dissent (at the idea of a married person flirting online with someone not their spouse) get manipulated by meme-engineers.

There are very roughly 100,000,000 married people in this country. A significant portion of them will engage in flirtations outside of marriage, and a non trivial number of them will actually engage in sex outside of marriage.

I'm not saying it is right. However, the subject of flirting is certainly popular and any online search will come up with millions of hits, e.g.: Why Married Men Flirt

So why is the case of Anthony Weiner special?

Because he is an effective rhetorician for the Democratic Party, and certain vested interests don't like that.

And there was no "real" sex involved.

Unlike with, say Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose illegitimate child with an employee has fallen completely off the radar.

210 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:36:27pm

Lizards time to call it a day. Many things to do in the next couple of days.

My Thanks to Charles and the Lizard Nation.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

211 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:36:36pm

re: #195 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, that's a point. Maybe apologizing to Breitbart is OK.

For Weiner, yes it is. He implied Andrew Breitbart had hacked Weiner's account or gotten the photos from someone who did. He knew that was untrue when he said that, and lying like that requires an apology. As Charles as pointed out, his suspicion of Breitbart was honest and well founded. All that is required from Charles is the admission that Breitbart was correct on this story, which Chalres has made.

212 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:36:43pm

re: #208 andres

BTW, Cannadian Club Akbar, what I meant with "around here" was in Puerto Rico.

Your #177 was just a quote. It didn't address anything.

213 qubit2020  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:38:10pm

I'm coming late to this party too, but, I just wanted to say don't let the jerks of the world try to get you down.
I don't know how you put up with idiots clamoring for your (virtual) head every day.
I appreciate your good sense and the fairness of your postings and blog. All the best Charles.

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:38:22pm

re: #212 Cannadian Club Akbar

Your #177 was just a quote. It didn't address anything.

My bad Andres. I clicked your 177 and not your link. My bad.

215 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:38:40pm

re: #199 freetoken

I propose that a lot of people are letting their moral dissent (at the idea of a married person flirting online with someone not their spouse) get manipulated by meme-engineers.

There are very roughly 100,000,000 married people in this country. A significant portion of them will engage in flirtations outside of marriage, and a non trivial number of them will actually engage in sex outside of marriage.

I'm not saying it is right. However, the subject of flirting is certainly popular and any online search will come up with millions of hits, e.g.: Why Married Men Flirt

So why is the case of Anthony Weiner special?

Because he is an effective rhetorician for the Democratic Party, and certain vested interests don't like that.

My issue is the enormity of it. If my husband is having phone or internet sex, sending pictures or out-and-out cheating, it's between us. What Weiner did and others like him who start off with denials, was lie to everyone. And look at the shit we're getting for it here? They're trying to slam Charles' character. Not that they don't always do that! Ok, but it's the effects of the wider audience.

1000 men could cheat, but the only one who will catch shit for it is the one that gets caught.

216 andres  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:38:59pm

re: #212 Cannadian Club Akbar

Your #177 was just a quote. It didn't address anything.

#208 links back to the thread last night (specifically this one). :)

217 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:39:28pm

LGF made it to the Maddow show!!!

218 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:39:40pm

re: #215 marjoriemoon

My issue is the enormity of it....

You.Have.Just.Bolstered.Weiner's.Confidence.Zillionfold

219 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:39:56pm

LGF Wikipedia story shown on Maddow show, congrats Charles!

220 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:39:58pm

Rachel Maddow just showed the LGF page on Wikipedia...

221 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:39:59pm

re: #217 ElCapitanAmerica

LGF made it to the Maddow show!!!

What was the mention about?

222 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:40:04pm

re: #210 Bubblehead II

Lizards time to call it a day. Many things to do in the next couple of days.

My Thanks to Charles and the Lizard Nation.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

Maintain an even strain.

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:40:21pm

re: #216 andres

#208 links back to the thread last night (specifically this one). :)

K. Gotcha.

224 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:40:23pm

lol, christie says PBS = communism

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

225 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:40:30pm

re: #199 freetoken

You are correct in that there are people who do things like flirt and cheat. As a matter of fact, in the days before effective DNA testing, studies in the US and UK showed by blood test results only, that somewhere between 20% and 25% of children born in those nations were not the children of the fathers as listed by the mothers. People do what they do and suffer for it.

The thing for me about Rep. Weiner is that every time I've ever seen him making some kind of statement, it's been obvious to me that he was engaging in some level of dishonesty- I can't stand that.

226 FQ Kafir  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:40:43pm

There is no reason for Charles to apologize for his opinion on the Weiner situation. What is mystifying, however, is how so many people completely missed Weiner's guilty behavior since the inception of this circus.

227 andres  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:40:48pm

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

My bad Andres. I clicked your 177 and not your link. My bad.

No problem, mate. :)

The question in 177 still stands... should I answer yours and ElCapitanAmerica's questions here, or over there?

228 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:40:52pm

re: #221 Alexzander

What was the mention about?

Palin fans trying to change history by editing Wikipedia

229 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:41:00pm

re: #209 Charles

And there was no "real" sex involved.

Unlike with, say Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose illegitimate child with an employee has fallen completely off the radar.

Arnold's a schmuck, too.

230 Kragar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:41:02pm

re: #220 Charles

Rachel Maddow just showed the LGF page on Wikipedia...

In what context?

231 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:41:02pm

re: #220 Charles

It's so funny. I think "Wiki" + "Palin" + "Paul Revere" is some sort of magic combinations.

Anyway, hopefully she'll pick up on more of your stuff.

232 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:41:11pm

the thing that bothers me the most about Weiner is this...he behaved like a high school kid...flashing, and showing off and disregarding all propriety for a man his age...make all the excuse you want about the net and culture, but it's a shallow riff...Weiner is an undeveloped old kid, and fucking up in this way is simply inexcusable....his protectors sound ridiculous

233 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:41:21pm

re: #209 Charles

And there was no "real" sex involved.

Unlike with, say Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose illegitimate child with an employee has fallen completely off the radar.

Even affairs of the heart can sometimes crush a spouse....... I hope Huma can handle this.

234 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:41:43pm

re: #230 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In what context?

Palin got the story of Revere backwards and her followers are trying to reverse history by editing Wikipedia

235 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:42:13pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Evening all! Good day at work today as I closed out the old event with one last vendor sale. Made me some decent money and made both my boss's boss happy (my manager is on vacation this week) and my dad happy. Big win and one I needed.

WOOT!
CONGRATULATIONS.
Yes, it's meant to be in all caps.

236 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:42:16pm

re: #227 andres

No problem, mate. :)

The question in 177 still stands... should I answer yours and ElCapitanAmerica's questions here, or over there?

I don't recall the entire conversation. Sorry.

237 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:04pm

re: #220 Charles

Rachel Maddow just showed the LGF page on Wikipedia...

Keep getting exposure like that, and you'll need another server and a load balancer.

238 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:07pm

re: #226 FQ Kafir

If Brietbart is alleging something, I have a very strong instinct to disbelieve it because of his terrible track record. Also, I'm not good at telling when people are actually guilty or just acting guilty, so I tend to give the benefit of the doubt; like with Sanford, I thought he was cracking up or had some sort of personal crisis, rather than the more mundane yet baffling "I had an affair with a woman I'm calling my soulmate now".

239 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:22pm

re: #232 albusteve

the thing that bothers me the most about Weiner is this...he behaved like a high school kid...flashing, and showing off and disregarding all propriety for a man his age...make all the excuse you want about the net and culture, but it's a shallow riff...Weiner is an undeveloped old kid, and fucking up in this way is simply inexcusable...his protectors sound ridiculous

nailed it

240 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:26pm

re: #227 andres

No problem, mate. :)

The question in 177 still stands... should I answer yours and ElCapitanAmerica's questions here, or over there?

What are you talking about?

241 McSpiff  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:28pm

re: #232 albusteve

the thing that bothers me the most about Weiner is this...he behaved like a high school kid...flashing, and showing off and disregarding all propriety for a man his age...make all the excuse you want about the net and culture, but it's a shallow riff...Weiner is an undeveloped old kid, and fucking up in this way is simply inexcusable...his protectors sound ridiculous

Pretty much where I'm at... It was just plain goofy. Everything Weirner did. And I try to avoid voting for goofy people.

242 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:39pm

re: #233 Mr Pancakes

Even affairs of the heart can sometimes crush a spouse... I hope Huma can handle this.

well, she's had her first child now

243 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:49pm

re: #220 Charles

Rachel Maddow just showed the LGF page on Wikipedia...

Hey, maybe she thinks you're cute?

244 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:43:58pm

Didn't the last Palin/Wiki post get something like 7000+ tweets? And many of us follow her.

245 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:05pm

re: #231 Obdicut

It's so funny. I think "Wiki" + "Palin" + "Paul Revere" is some sort of magic combinations.

Anyway, hopefully she'll pick up on more of your stuff.

Lets try it:

Abra-ca Sarah! Wiki-Pocus!

[Obdicut turns into one of Killgore's frogs]

/Entirely kidding in good fun

246 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:11pm

holy crap, the smoke from arizona has made everything outside orange and dark

247 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:22pm

re: #244 marjoriemoon

Didn't the last Palin/Wiki post get something like 7000+ tweets? And many of us follow her.

Now over 8000 retweets.

248 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:23pm

re: #66 albusteve

some of the very same people here that savage republicans, conservatives or anybody else claim he has nothing to apologize for...bwahahaha!...what a world, eh?

As far as I can tell, very few people say Weiner has no reason to apologize. You seem to be looking for the exceptions rather than the consensus.

249 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:34pm

I may have been wrong about Weinergate, but I still know what happened on the ride of Paul Revere...

250 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:37pm

re: #232 albusteve

the thing that bothers me the most about Weiner is this...he behaved like a high school kid...flashing, and showing off and disregarding all propriety for a man his age...make all the excuse you want about the net and culture, but it's a shallow riff...Weiner is an undeveloped old kid, and fucking up in this way is simply inexcusable...his protectors sound ridiculous

Quoted for Truth.

251 FQ Kafir  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:40pm

Congrats on the shout out from Maddow, Charles!

It's a crime that you don't get more kudos for your exceptional blog designing skills. The technical aspect of LGF has evolved almost exponentially in the last few years.

252 andres  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:44:52pm

re: #240 ElCapitanAmerica

What are you talking about?

Last night's thread.

I think I'll drop it. :)

253 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:45:02pm

re: #246 SpaceJesus

Smoke from fires, makes for beautiful, if sad, sunsets.

254 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:45:20pm

re: #249 JasonA

I may have been wrong about Weinergate, but I still know what happened on the ride of Paul Revere...

So do I, now that Sarah explained it to me.
//

255 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:45:22pm

re: #155 Cannadian Club Akbar

Question: What is the over/under until Gloria Alred becomes the attorney for the women involved in this? They don't need one, but ya know she'll be there.

8-1 This turns into a Tiger Woods, 33 hookers, Wife bashing your windshield with a golf club on Your SUV in the middle of the night
6-1 His wife knows what he looks like in his underwear
5-1 there will be no sex life for 6 months
4-1 The make up sex will be great, Hillary will be recommending the best 3 name Attorney in The DC beltway to explore options
3-1 Bill Clinton Stops returning text messages
2-1 He resigns and signs for 3M to a Fruit of the womb contract
///

256 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:45:39pm

re: #225 Capitalist Tool

I don't care about the NY reps' sexual peccadilloes.

I don't even care about him at all - he's not my rep.

He is though very effective in arguments against the political opposition, and he has taken on good causes in the past, for which I applaud him.

That he let himself get caught into a political trap in part because of said peccadilloes - well, I've stated my assertion several times that our society is obsessed with outing its repressed sexuality, a hangover from the Victorian era and the new fundamentalism reaction of the early 20th century.

257 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:45:42pm

re: #252 andres

Last night's thread.

I think I'll drop it. :)

Dude, I'm not even sure what I asked you. Can you be a bit less cryptic?

258 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:46:04pm

re: #253 Floral Giraffe

it's pretty surreal, actually. really, really weird. i go outside and it even smells like im right by a campfire.

259 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:46:21pm

re: #252 andres

Last night's thread.

I think I'll drop it. :)

Is that when we talked about Puerto Rico becoming a state?

260 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:47:10pm

One thing I will never be able to forgive Weiner for is handing Breitbart such a victory on a gray cotton platter...

261 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:47:18pm

re: #246 SpaceJesus

holy crap, the smoke from arizona has made everything outside orange and dark

is this bizarre or what?...I was going to post about it....when the smoke hit the valley it sucked all the air out...it is extremely bright yellow outside...I've never seen anything like it

262 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:47:34pm

re: #259 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is that when we talked about Puerto Rico becoming a state?

Ah, eres el puertorro!

What did I ask you? :-)

263 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:48:03pm

re: #199 freetoken

I propose that a lot of people are letting their moral dissent (at the idea of a married person flirting online with someone not their spouse) get manipulated by meme-engineers.

There are very roughly 100,000,000 married people in this country. A significant portion of them will engage in flirtations outside of marriage, and a non trivial number of them will actually engage in sex outside of marriage.

I'm not saying it is right. However, the subject of flirting is certainly popular and any online search will come up with millions of hits, e.g.: Why Married Men Flirt

So why is the case of Anthony Weiner special?

Because he is an effective rhetorician for the Democratic Party, and certain vested interests don't like that.

Anthony Weiner knew that, and decided he was going to endanger his work, his party's work, his marriage and his family's privacy by playing around on the Internet in his shorts.

Catching politicians doing naughty sexual stuff is an old, old trick. It got this old because politicians keep falling for it.

264 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:48:18pm

re: #251 FQ Kafir

Congrats on the shout out from Maddow, Charles!

It's a crime that you don't get more kudos for your exceptional blog designing skills. The technical aspect of LGF has evolved almost exponentially in the last few years.

What happened? Is there a link?

265 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:48:25pm

re: #258 SpaceJesus

Welcome to what California is, most Fall seasons. Do what you need to do, in advance, to be safe!Please?

266 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:48:47pm

re: #261 albusteve


me neither man. weird. i had to turn off my swamp cooler because it was bringing the smoke inside my apartment. guess ill have a beer to stay cool.

267 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:49:12pm

re: #262 ElCapitanAmerica

Ah, eres el puertorro!

What did I ask you? :-)

We were just talking about it. Threads have been known to get a bit off track here.

268 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:49:29pm

re: #264 Killgore Trout

What happened? Is there a link?

No link, but Maddow showed the LGF Wikipedia Paul Revere story (with grieving Paul Revere) for like about 10 seconds.

269 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:49:38pm

re: #248 b_sharp

As far as I can tell, very few people say Weiner has no reason to apologize. You seem to be looking for the exceptions rather than the consensus.

yup I did...amazing to point out something outside the consensus...I should have tweeted some rad person out there to legitimize my post....I didn't need to tho

270 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:49:54pm

All you have to do is not be a dick

i never get to have any fun

271 jaunte  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:50:14pm

re: #261 albusteve

is this bizarre or what?...I was going to post about it...when the smoke hit the valley it sucked all the air out...it is extremely bright yellow outside...I've never seen anything like it

Some photos from Albuquerque, June 3:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

272 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:50:18pm

re: #264 Killgore Trout

What happened? Is there a link?

There will be, as soon as MSNBC posts the episode.

273 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:50:19pm

re: #267 Cannadian Club Akbar

We were just talking about it. Threads have been known to get a bit off track here.

No, REALLY?
LOL!

274 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:50:28pm

re: #209 Charles

And there was no "real" sex involved.

Unlike with, say Arnold Schwarzenegger, whose illegitimate child with an employee has fallen completely off the radar.

Give this a day or two.

275 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:50:29pm

I think I need to feed Bflat...fucker keeps walking across my chest, then sitting next to me, then hopping back up and walking across my chest again...little bastard is cute though...yeah...I'll feed him now.

276 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:50:45pm

re: #265 Floral Giraffe

Welcome to what California is, most Fall seasons. Do what you need to do, in advance, to be safe!Please?

Live inside the confines of a city, or clear the brush.......

277 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:50:46pm

re: #268 ElCapitanAmerica

No link, but Maddow showed the LGF Wikipedia Paul Revere story (with grieving Paul Revere) for like about 10 seconds.

Nice!

278 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:51:05pm

re: #272 Charles

There will be, as soon as MSNBC posts the episode.

Sweet!

279 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:51:29pm

What I think distresses me most about this whole Weinergate debacle is that we have a Rep. by the name of Weiner who was sending out pictures of his penis over twitter, and I completely dropped the ball in the dick joke department.

Sorry everyone.

280 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:51:36pm

re: #200 SanFranciscoZionist

In conjunction with the guy whose name I have forgotten who was posting shirtless pictures on Craigslist, though, it does suggest that politicians simply have no idea how to have affairs discreetly anymore.

Or at the very least, need a few lessons in how to use the internet.

281 andres  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:51:37pm

re: #259 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is that when we talked about Puerto Rico becoming a state?

Yep.

re: #262 ElCapitanAmerica

Ah, eres el puertorro!

What did I ask you? :-)

You asked about the Calle 13's song Japon, and the peculiar Puerto Rican humor, especially concerning Dominicans.

282 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:51:37pm

I like how Fox News hid the Arnold thing down on the bottom of their page, but this Weiner story is right at the top, bold text and all.

283 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:51:43pm

re: #276 Mr Pancakes

Live inside the confines of a city, or clear the brush...

100 yards, in every direction, if you live in the scrub!
Do it every May 1st.

284 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:51:43pm

re: #258 SpaceJesus

it's pretty surreal, actually. really, really weird. i go outside and it even smells like im right by a campfire.

it was very very strong here an hour ago, and the yellow glow is blowing me away....need some peyote to understand it

285 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:52:47pm

Fire

Youtube Video
286 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:52:58pm

re: #281 andres


You asked about the Calle 13's song Japon, and the peculiar Puerto Rican humor, especially concerning Dominicans.

Did you find the song, what do you think? :-)

287 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:52:59pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

For Weiner, yes it is. He implied Andrew Breitbart had hacked Weiner's account or gotten the photos from someone who did. He knew that was untrue when he said that, and lying like that requires an apology. As Charles as pointed out, his suspicion of Breitbart was honest and well founded. All that is required from Charles is the admission that Breitbart was correct on this story, which Chalres has made.

Yeah, Weiner lied about that one, and should apologize, although, frankly, if Breitbart hadn't made the story about him--mutter mutter--anyway, I agree that Weiner's apology is proper.

For myself, honestly, the next time Breitbart comes up with something, I'm still going to assume it's a hoax and a lie because it's Breitbart. One Congressman caught with his pants down will not neutralize what I've seen this schmuck--(Breitbart, not Weiner) do.

288 Obdicut  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:53:20pm

re: #282 SpaceJesus

I like how Fox News hid the Arnold thing down on the bottom of their page, but this Weiner story is right at the top, bold text and all.

This scandal is like water in the desert for the poor thirsty Fox faithful.

289 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:53:24pm

re: #284 albusteve

arizona smells kind of nice, actually

290 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:53:28pm

re: #279 Slumbering Behemoth

What I think distresses me most about this whole Weinergate debacle is that we have a Rep. by the name of Weiner who was sending out pictures of his penis over twitter, and I completely dropped the ball in the dick joke department.

Sorry everyone.

There's still time SB

291 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:53:53pm

I also see we had a couple of trolls get the stick today. Thankfully, I was able to properly clean and gut one of the carcasses and get it on the grill. Roast troll is on in 25, with Hebrew National hot dogs also available.

292 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:54:02pm

re: #290 Mr Pancakes

There's still time SB

Don't encourage him!!!

293 jaunte  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:54:03pm

re: #279 Slumbering Behemoth

They're like buses, another one will be along any minute.

294 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:54:11pm

re: #271 jaunte

Some photos from Albuquerque, June 3:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

there are extremely serious fires burning over there...I'm just about sick

295 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:55:08pm

re: #238 Obdicut

If Brietbart is alleging something, I have a very strong instinct to disbelieve it because of his terrible track record. Also, I'm not good at telling when people are actually guilty or just acting guilty, so I tend to give the benefit of the doubt; like with Sanford, I thought he was cracking up or had some sort of personal crisis, rather than the more mundane yet baffling "I had an affair with a woman I'm calling my soulmate now".

All true, but Weiner did start to get hinkty early on.

This kind of thing, you're guessing. All the time. Usually based on past behavior of people involved. I knew AB was a liar, I didn't know AW was a liar and a cheater. Yet.

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:55:11pm

Alrighty, out for a bit. Unless I can't sleep.

297 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:55:42pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Fire

[Video]

Fire...
I think you should learn

Youtube Video
298 McSpiff  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:55:42pm

re: #294 albusteve

there are extremely serious fires burning over there...I'm just about sick

Any chance of you needing to bug out or are you far enough away?

299 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:56:13pm

re: #255 HoosierHoops

8-1 This turns into a Tiger Woods, 33 hookers, Wife bashing your windshield with a golf club on Your SUV in the middle of the night
6-1 His wife knows what he looks like in his underwear
5-1 there will be no sex life for 6 months
4-1 The make up sex will be great, Hillary will be recommending the best 3 name Attorney in The DC beltway to explore options
3-1 Bill Clinton Stops returning text messages
2-1 He resigns and signs for 3M to a Fruit of the womb contract
///

I hope to God that last one was mean to be 'Fruit of the Loom'.

300 makeitstop  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:56:26pm

re: #275 darthstar

I think I need to feed Bflat...fucker keeps walking across my chest, then sitting next to me, then hopping back up and walking across my chest again...little bastard is cute though...yeah...I'll feed him now.

We have three cats, who begin their day (and ours) by taking turns jumping back and forth between myself and my wife in order to wake us up so we can do our only important job as humans and give them food.

My wife always gets the worst of it, because she's a much lighter sleeper than I am. The cats would have to be setting off firecrackers and jumping with lead shoes on if they want to wake me up.

301 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:56:33pm

re: #289 SpaceJesus

arizona smells kind of nice, actually

cedar, mesquite

302 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:56:49pm

And seriously, "Weinergate"?

If the Rep. in question sending out penis picks were named "Smith", there is no way in hell the press would be able to get away with calling it "Weinergate" or any other euphemism for "penis".

303 jaunte  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:56:51pm

re: #294 albusteve

there are extremely serious fires burning over there...I'm just about sick

What a mess. [Link: www.flickr.com...]

304 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:56:54pm

re: #285 Killgore Trout

Burning fire is evil shit. Especially when driven by the wind.

305 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:57:16pm

So....could these women who follow Wiener on Twitter beeferred to at the Dick Armey?

306 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:57:17pm

re: #263 SanFranciscoZionist

Anthony Weiner knew that, and decided he was going to endanger his work, his party's work, his marriage and his family's privacy by playing around on the Internet in his shorts.

Catching politicians doing naughty sexual stuff is an old, old trick. It got this old because politicians keep falling for it.

Which is why Democrat leaders like Pelosi are probably pissed - because one of theirs was foolish enough to feed fuel to the political rumor-mongering machine.

The penis is often guilty of getting men into foolish situations.

307 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:57:25pm

I think the sleepers are finished trying to post hateful comments for today.

But they may return when the night gets older and the alcohol is ingested.

308 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:57:47pm

re: #283 Floral Giraffe

100 yards, in every direction, if you live in the scrub!
Do it every May 1st.

Yep...... mandated. I remember in 03 I believe, end of October? All of San Diego county was in a sun shrouded, smoked filled "orangy gray" haze for days..... everyone was wearing masks. It was surreal.

309 McSpiff  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:57:59pm

re: #307 Charles

I think the sleepers are finished trying to post hateful comments for today.

But they may return when the night gets older and the alcohol is ingested.

Best read in the voice of David Attenborough.

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:58:18pm

re: #290 Mr Pancakes

There's still time SB

Yeah, but the whole thing is nearly blown over now. Bringing it up would just make me look like a prick.

311 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:58:28pm

re: #305 Hawaii69

So...could these women who follow Wiener on Twitter beeferred to at the Dick Armey?

"be referred to as"

...always proofread when stretching for a joke.

312 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:58:37pm

re: #295 SanFranciscoZionist

Liars & cheaters, seem to go with the mind set of our politicians, these days.
It's unfortunate.
So, how do we change the politicians job, to attract honest folks?

313 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:59:24pm

re: #307 Charles

The worst ones always wait until they're sure you and most of us are asleep.

314 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:59:28pm

re: #232 albusteve

My main take away is just how recklessly he's behaved as he engaged in this behavior. He gambled with the well being of his family, his career, his credibility and the potential political fallout to the issues he cares about. And with the seemingly prolific nature of his internet indiscretions, it had to dawn on him from (at least from time-to-time) that his odds weren't good.

He's probably now hopelessly compromised politically, based on the way the media is reacting so far and the avenues of inquiry they're taking up.

315 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:59:30pm

re: #299 SanFranciscoZionist

LOL! L is nowhere near W on the keyboard, but, you made me look!

316 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:59:46pm

re: #288 Obdicut

This scandal is like water in the desert for the poor thirsty Fox faithful.

The Fox Faithful are never thirsty, for if they are truly faithful than reality will bend itself to their whims and this is just as much of a scandal in truth as Obama's Andy Warhol inspired Christmas Tree Ornament....

317 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 6:59:46pm

Charles -

Listening to "The Whole Thing" from Big Blue Ball on YT right now.

Excellent music. I had the opportunity to see Peter Gabriel in SF a looong time ago.

It's so good to hear his voice again.

318 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:00:01pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

Liars & cheaters, seem to go with the mind set of our politicians, these days.
It's unfortunate.
So, how do we change the politicians job, to attract honest folks?

Draft them. Anyone who wants the job is 4F.

319 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:00:42pm

re: #298 McSpiff

Any chance of you needing to bug out or are you far enough away?

it's a long way over there, a couple hundred miles at least...there is nothing to burn here except the bosque, and when it goes up, NM treats it like a commie invasion...our riparian forest along the Rio Grande is, or should be, a World Heritage Site...when it catches fire, hundreds of fighters pounce on it...these remote fire over in AZ are killing me...you really can't put them out unless conditions are absolutely perfect

320 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:00:56pm

re: #310 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, but the whole thing is nearly blown over now. Bringing it up would just make me look like a prick.

That's what the media wants you to believe.

321 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:01:32pm

re: #314 simoom

Not to mention those underwear pics.
Seriously, would YOU send pics like that to anyone?

322 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:01:35pm

re: #210 Bubblehead II

Lizards time to call it a day. Many things to do in the next couple of days.

My Thanks to Charles and the Lizard Nation.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

May the good one bless you and keep you.

323 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:02:00pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

Liars & cheaters, seem to go with the mind set of our politicians, these days.
It's unfortunate.
So, how do we change the politicians job, to attract honest folks?

Castration?

I just had a flash of Madeline Kahn picking out orgy mates.

324 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:02:03pm

re: #318 Decatur Deb

You're hired!
LOL!

325 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:02:16pm

And I should have posted this on day one.

Youtube Video
326 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:02:32pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

Liars & cheaters, seem to go with the mind set of our politicians, these days.
It's unfortunate.
So, how do we change the politicians job, to attract honest folks?

Today went a long way achieving that goal I hope.

327 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:03:13pm

re: #321 Floral Giraffe

Not to mention those underwear pics.
Seriously, would YOU send pics like that to anyone?


No.

There was no underwear in the pics I sent out....

328 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:03:41pm

re: #291 Dark_Falcon

I also see we had a couple of trolls get the stick today. Thankfully, I was able to properly clean and gut one of the carcasses and get it on the grill. Roast troll is on in 25, with Hebrew National hot dogs also available.

You're never gonna move your stocked-in roasted troll if you're offering something as tasty as a Hebrew National.

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:04:21pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

Liars & cheaters, seem to go with the mind set of our politicians, these days.
It's unfortunate.
So, how do we change the politicians job, to attract honest folks?

I wish I knew.

Some of the cheating, and I've said this before, I think has to do with the basic nature of the politician. These are people whose gut instinct is to court people and win them over. Politicians are seducers. Not all of them can keep the instinct under control, or restrict it to their work.

There's a scene in one of Mary Renault's books about Alexander the Great, where one of his cousins is hanging out with the courtesan he's been seeing, and they're talking about Alexander. She says "He's practically one of us, you know," and the man says something to the effect that no, Alexander doesn't sleep with hardly anyone. She says she didn't mean sex, she means he needs to have people look at him and adore him.

That was Bill Clinton for ya (who otherwise did not resemble Alexander the Great a whole lot).

330 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:05:40pm

To hell with his wiener, I want to see the matching set of stones it takes to allow questions after an announcement like this...

331 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:05:58pm

re: #321 Floral Giraffe

Not to mention those underwear pics.
Seriously, would YOU send pics like that to anyone?

I never would without a panoramic camera lens anyway...... otherwise what's the point?

332 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:06:04pm

re: #307 Charles

I think the sleepers are finished trying to post hateful comments for today.

But they may return when the night gets older and the alcohol is ingested.

I'd wager the Old Crow is already being passed around over there. They'll booze up then be back spewing, here if they can, on Twitter if they can't.

But with the publicity, tomorrow would be a good time to open registration, IMO.

333 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:06:19pm

Evening lizards!

334 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:07:18pm

Ah, Schultzie is back. Calling for Weiner to resign.

335 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:07:25pm

Remember, it's only cheating if your spouse considers it cheating. Otherwise, it's just "extra curricular".

336 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:07:48pm

re: #327 Hawaii69

No.

There was no underwear in the pics I sent out...

Was there, at least, some standard, blocky, pixelated obscuring? :p

337 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:07:58pm

re: #334 JasonA

Ah, Schultzie is back. Calling for Weiner to resign.

Soo... Weiner should pull out, then?

338 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:08:02pm

re: #334 JasonA

Ah, Schultzie is back. Calling for Weiner to resign.

Schultzie?

339 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:08:12pm

re: #330 JasonA

To hell with his wiener, I want to see the matching set of stones it takes to allow questions after an announcement like this...

what a tough guy eh?
LOL....did he have a choice?...the dumbass let events fuck himself up...he's a dope

340 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:08:30pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

Liars & cheaters, seem to go with the mind set of our politicians, these days.
It's unfortunate.
So, how do we change the politicians job, to attract honest folks?


You seem to have a commonly shared perception about our pols and it seems to have been that way a long time.
Maybe when we quit accepting the dim and the greedy and the liar, just because they happen to be on 'our side', then things will improve.

I hope for, but do not expect a change in business as usual, anytime soon, but think that we as citizens of the US must undergo a paradigm shift in our collective consciousness before we see any improvement.

341 gandalf.il  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:08:40pm

I demand Charles apologize to me too!
He did not wrong me just like he did not wrong Breitbart, and I did not smear anyone with dishonest videos and such...

So I reckon I deserve it more than that guy!

Twisted logic is fun...

342 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:08:43pm

re: #328 The Ghost of a Flea

You're never gonna move your stocked-in roasted troll if you're offering something as tasty as a Hebrew National.

I dunno. Properly roasted troll buttocks is quite a delicacy around here. Too bad I missed all the action; I've been looking to test some new spice mixes.

343 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:09:51pm

Sarah Palin has officially made our nation dumber.

Now Bill O'Reilly takes history lessons from her;
[Link: www.mediaite.com...]

Watch the clip, and check out Goldberg kind of making fun of O'Reilly there at the end;


” O’Reilly countered that Revere had, as Palin said, “warned the British” by telling them “you’d better knock it off.”
344 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:10:05pm

re: #337 Slumbering Behemoth

Soo... Weiner should pull out, then?

You're on a roll.

345 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:10:21pm

re: #325 Slumbering Behemoth

And I should have posted this on day one.

[Video]

I love Fear from LA........ I've been looking for an excuse to post this.......

New York's Alright if You Like Saxophones.

Youtube Video
346 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:10:50pm

re: #342 thedopefishlives

I dunno. Properly roasted troll buttocks is quite a delicacy around here.

It is for some, but eating troll is against my irreligion.

347 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:11:17pm

re: #344 b_sharp

You're on a roll.

Don't encourage him--he'll keep it up all night.

348 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:11:23pm

re: #335 Slumbering Behemoth

Remember, it's only cheating if your spouse considers it cheating. Otherwise, it's just "extra curricular".

It's going to be a long, long time before that's accepted in American politics.

Now, can someone untangle this for me? I understand that it's Weiner's underpants, and Weiner under the underpants. Who did he send it to, how, and how did the media, or whatever you consider Breitbart to be, get it? I've completely lost the thread.

349 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:11:43pm

re: #339 albusteve

what a tough guy eh?
LOL...did he have a choice?...the dumbass let events fuck himself up...he's a dope

They almost never allow questions at these press conferences.

350 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:11:46pm

re: #346 Slumbering Behemoth

It is for some, but eating troll is against my irreligion.

Aw, c'mon. It's kosher.

(I think.)

351 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:12:19pm

There have always been regional labels equivalent to chav - skangers, spides, charvers, scallies and neds, respectively in Ireland, Northern Ireland, North East England, North West England and Scotland. But chav has somehow scaled regional barriers to become a national term of abuse.

fookin brits who can understand em

352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:12:25pm

re: #344 b_sharp

You're on a roll.


Ohhh...

Youtube Video
353 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:12:49pm

re: #315 Floral Giraffe

LOL! L is nowhere near W on the keyboard, but, you made me look!

It passed spellcheck!
Fruit of the L Boom

354 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:12:50pm

re: #341 gandalf.il

I demand Charles apologize to me too!
He did not wrong me just like he did not wrong Breitbart, and I did not smear anyone with dishonest videos and such...

So I reckon I deserve it more than that guy!

Twisted logic is fun...

I personally believe that I deserve a Nobel Peace Prize on very similar grounds. They gave one to Yasser Arafat, and he did not bring peace to the Middle East. I also have not brought peace to the Middle East, and I haven't killed anyone while doing so.

Me for a Nobel!

355 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:12:56pm

re: #347 Decatur Deb

Don't encourage him--he'll keep it up all night.

Don't be so hard on him.

356 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:13:02pm

re: #349 JasonA

They almost never allow questions at these press conferences.

the questions went on forever in this case...on and on and it got so ridiculous I turned it off

357 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:13:06pm

re: #338 NJDhockeyfan

Schultzie?

Ed Schultz. Suspended for a week for calling Laura Ingraham a slut.

358 ReamWorks SKG  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:13:09pm

What Breitbart did was inappropriate.

Re-posting the original tweet--that went out to the public--was probably OK. It was a message that was transmitted for millions of people to see.

But posting images that were sent in a private conversation--even if one of the parties agrees--crosses an ethical line.

This doesn't excuse Weiner, but it means that there's no need for anyone to apologize to Breitbart.

359 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:13:12pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

The worst ones always wait until they're sure you and most of us are asleep.

Youtube Video
360 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:13:12pm

re: #342 thedopefishlives

I dunno. Properly roasted troll buttocks is quite a delicacy around here. Too bad I missed all the action; I've been looking to test some new spice mixes.

I've been experimenting with baharat--it's pretty good.

361 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:13:49pm

re: #336 simoom

Was there, at least, some standard, blocky, pixelated obscuring? :p


No, but these were to people who were already personally familiar with the.....errrr......"perpetrator"

362 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:14:32pm

re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist

I personally believe that I deserve a Nobel Peace Prize on very similar grounds. They gave one to Yasser Arafat, and he did not bring peace to the Middle East. I also have not brought peace to the Middle East, and I haven't killed anyone while doing so.

Me for a Nobel!

good question...did BO deserve a Nobel more than Arafat?

363 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:14:46pm

re: #353 HoosierHoops

Doesn't mean it's RIGHT!
//

364 andres  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:15:06pm

re: #286 ElCapitanAmerica

Did you find the song, what do you think? :-)

I found it grating. Then again, I'm not a huge fan of Calle 13. :) I mostly hear the singles they puts out, and the Outrage of the Disk.

As for the lyrics, there's no chance in hell I'd see anything like that ever recording in the USA. This one in particular might not have had a big coverage over here because it was part of a Best Buy special edition[1]. It also seems to fit better musically and lyrically with their first CD, which seems to have come from.

But then, there have been some hits that would never see the light of the day if they were to be recorded in the USA. :)

----
[1] The other song in the special edition is a remix of a hit of the previous CD.

365 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:15:15pm

re: #357 JasonA

Ed Schultz. Suspended for a week for calling Laura Ingraham a slut.

He's a kook. I don't waste my time watching his show.

366 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:15:19pm

re: #357 JasonA

Ed Schultz. Suspended for a week for calling Laura Ingraham a slut.

who's Lora Igramhand?

367 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:15:51pm

re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist

I personally believe that I deserve a Nobel Peace Prize on very similar grounds. They gave one to Yasser Arafat, and he did not bring peace to the Middle East. I also have not brought peace to the Middle East, and I haven't killed anyone while doing so.

Me for a Nobel!

You'll at least always be noble to us :)

368 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:15:59pm

re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist

On of the most bug-fuck backwards, baffling decisions in the history of the Nobel Prize, I think.

369 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:16:17pm

re: #362 albusteve

good question...did BO deserve a Nobel more than Arafat?

Yes.
So did Gore, and the IPCC.

370 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:16:19pm

re: #350 thedopefishlives

Aw, c'mon. It's kosher.

(I think.)

Sorry, but no. Trolls eat their own and they are large animals that have no hooves, nor do they chew their cud, preferring to spew bile instead. Thus the cannot be kosher.

Five minutes till we serve. Anyone have any drink requests?

371 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:16:52pm

re: #362 albusteve

good question...did BO deserve a Nobel more than Arafat?

He was POTUS for a whole week. Of course he deserved it!

372 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:17:21pm

re: #366 albusteve

who's Lora Igramhand?

she's like a female anne coulter

373 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:17:37pm

re: #372 engineer dog

she's like a female anne coulter

I had to do a double take when I read that.

374 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:17:52pm

re: #368 Slumbering Behemoth

On of the most bug-fuck backwards, baffling decisions in the history of the Nobel Prize, I think.

Nobel.... the guy that invented dynamite?

375 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:18:00pm

re: #372 engineer dog

she's like a female anne coulter

ROTFLMAO!!!

376 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:18:21pm

re: #369 b_sharp

Yes.
So did Gore, and the IPCC.

the Nobel is officially corrupt as of awarding Arafat his...it's a joke on you

377 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:18:38pm

re: #362 albusteve

good question...did BO deserve a Nobel more than Arafat?

Yes. Obama at worst did nothing, while Arafat actively worked against peace.

378 makeitstop  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:18:43pm

re: #372 engineer dog

she's like a female anne coulter

Oh, snap!

379 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:19:03pm

re: #376 albusteve

the Nobel is officially corrupt as of awarding Arafat his...it's a joke on you

My cat deserves it more than Arafat did.

380 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:19:09pm

re: #372 engineer dog

she's like a female anne coulter

good one...finally

381 gandalf.il  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:19:19pm

re: #362 albusteve

An average drug dealer deserves a Nobel more than Arafat.

382 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:19:19pm

re: #372 engineer dog

she's like a female anne coulter

OK, rotating title nomination!
Too F'ing funny!

383 abolitionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:19:22pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

It's going to be a long, long time before that's accepted in American politics.

Now, can someone untangle this for me? I understand that it's Weiner's underpants, and Weiner under the underpants. Who did he send it to, how, and how did the media, or whatever you consider Breitbart to be, get it? I've completely lost the thread.

Simoom had some detailed info in the Anthony_Weiner_Schedules_Press_Conference thread, #804.

384 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:19:40pm

re: #374 Mr Pancakes

Nobel... the guy that invented dynamite?

Yeah, he felt guilty for contributing nightly to science and humanity, so he did the Peace Prize thing. Or something like that.

385 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:19:43pm

I listened to Weiner's press conference on the radio this afternoon. I started to think he's just another sleazebag lying politician. I doubt he'll last much longer.

386 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:20:35pm

re: #360 SanFranciscoZionist

I've been experimenting with baharat--it's pretty good.

What are you doing with baharat?

387 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:04pm

re: #384 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, he felt guilty for contributing nightly to science and humanity, so he did the Peace Prize thing. Or something like that.

That should be "mightily". :sigh:

388 freetoken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:14pm

re: #335 Slumbering Behemoth

Remember, it's only cheating if your spouse considers it cheating. Otherwise, it's just "extra curricular".

Compared to what goes on every minute on 4chan/2chan ... it's hard to imagine how our body politic could ever handle what the youth of today are doing.

389 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:19pm

re: #372 engineer dog

she's like a female anne coulter

Untrue. She's not nearly as nasty as Coulter, nor has she written a new nook literally called Demonic, which given her history features her actually accusing the left of worshiping Satan.

/I'm exaggerating, but not by much.

390 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:32pm

Unbelievable!


O'Reilly: "Now I'm gonna stick up for the governor, 'cause I know something about Paul Revere I actually have his signature. He did tell the British, you better knock it off, you better not try to seize the guns because if you do there's gonna be a big problem which of course ensued. So we'll give her the benefit of the doubt, as we try to do with everybody Bernie"

Bernie Goldberg: "OK .. uh ... I ... I wansn't aware of that. Thank you"

O'Reilly: "It's true"

391 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:34pm

re: #362 albusteve

good question...did BO deserve a Nobel more than Arafat?

Well, I think he's a better human being.

He didn't deserve the Nobel, but I LIKE him much better than Arafat!

392 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:38pm

re: #386 Capitalist Tool

What are you doing with baharat?

That's a high stakes game in Vegas.... no?
/

393 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:44pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

It's going to be a long, long time before that's accepted in American politics.

Now, can someone untangle this for me? I understand that it's Weiner's underpants, and Weiner under the underpants. Who did he send it to, how, and how did the media, or whatever you consider Breitbart to be, get it? I've completely lost the thread.

Apparently he's been flirting & sexting with numerous remotely located women on the internet for years, and continued to do so after his recent marriage. He also, apparently engaged in phone sex with at least one of them.

According to Breitbart, he sent the underwear photo to one of these women (who he'd been flirting with and sexting for some time) in an e-mail on May 18th. Supposedly she shared these communications, the underwear photo and more explicit photos with Breitbart more than a week before the underwear tweet that started the whole scandal.

I didn't watch the Weiner press conference, but my understanding is that he admitted sending the underpants tweet and said he deleted it almost immediately as he sent in in error? Someone who's been following more closely will have to fill in who he claimed it was actually intended it for.

394 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:21:46pm

re: #386 Capitalist Tool

What are you doing with baharat?

Salting tails.

395 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:22:15pm

re: #374 Mr Pancakes

Nobel... the guy that invented dynamite?

That one.

396 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:22:42pm

re: #387 Slumbering Behemoth

That should be "mightily". :sigh:

nightly worked dude

397 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:22:53pm

re: #385 NJDhockeyfan

I listened to Weiner's press conference on the radio this afternoon. I started to think he's just another sleazebag lying politician. I doubt he'll last much longer.

Unless the scandal deepens, he's actually likely to survive. His is a very safe district, and its a long time till election day.

398 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:23:16pm

re: #391 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I think he's a better human being.

He didn't deserve the Nobel, but I LIKE him much better than Arafat!

Backer of Santa Monica anti-circ initiative has withdrawn petition!

"Foreskin man" has really screwed the pooch.

Sweet.

399 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:23:55pm

re: #386 Capitalist Tool

What are you doing with baharat?

Made mafroum the other day. Pretty good food, except that all this stuffing vegetables that North African cooking is so into is not really all that interesting to me. I'm thinking of sort of deconstructing the dish.

400 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:23:56pm

re: #393 simoom

Apparently he's been flirting & sexting with numerous remotely located women on the internet for years, and continued to do so after his recent marriage. He also, apparently engaged in phone sex with at least one of them.

According to Breitbart, he sent the underwear photo to one of these women (who he'd been flirting with and sexting for some time) in an e-mail on May 18th. Supposedly she shared these communications, the underwear photo and more explicit photos with Breitbart more than a week before the underwear tweet that started the whole scandal.

I didn't watch the Weiner press conference, but my understanding is that he admitted sending the underpants tweet and said he deleted it almost immediately as he sent in in error? Someone who's been following more closely will have to fill in who he claimed it was actually intended it for.

Which reminds me, did you see the latest Smoking Gun entry?

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

JUNE 6--The online duo who spearheaded a vicious months-long Twitter assault on Representative Anthony Weiner--whom they accused of improper contact with underage girls--apparently consulted with an aide to a powerful House Republican as they mulled over how to release information about Weiner’s purported relationship with a Delaware teenager, The Smoking Gun has learned.

401 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:24:15pm

re: #397 Dark_Falcon

Unless the scandal deepens, he's actually likely to survive. His is a very safe district, and its a long time till election day.

wait til he hits the talk show circuit...
CHA CHING!

402 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:25:06pm

re: #390 ElCapitanAmerica

Unbelievable!

Palin Statement Goes in

New Rightwing Meme comes out....

Never a miscommunication, you can't explain that.

403 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:25:10pm

there are some huge, unidentifiable insects invading the bunkhouse

404 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:25:23pm

re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist

Made mafroum the other day. Pretty good food, except that all this stuffing vegetables that North African cooking is so into is not really all that interesting to me. I'm thinking of sort of deconstructing the dish.

re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist

Made mafroum the other day. Pretty good food, except that all this stuffing vegetables that North African cooking is so into is not really all that interesting to me. I'm thinking of sort of deconstructing the dish.

Did you blend your own or a pkg... 7 spices-8?

405 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:25:58pm

whoa! double- tapped that one

406 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:26:08pm

re: #349 JasonA

They almost never allow questions at these press conferences.

Yes, most people would attempt to circumcis....errrr.....circumvent such questions.....

407 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:26:09pm

re: #402 jamesfirecat

Palin Statement Goes in

New Rightwing Meme comes out...

Never a miscommunication, you can't explain that.

You really can't.

408 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:26:13pm

re: #389 Dark_Falcon

Untrue. She's not nearly as nasty as Coulter, nor has she written a new book literally called Demonic, which given her history features her actually accusing the left of worshiping Satan.

/I'm exaggerating, but not by much.

PIMF

409 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:26:40pm

re: #403 albusteve

there are some huge, unidentifiable insects invading the bunkhouse

Look like this?

Image: Them!-giant-ants-001.jpg

410 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:26:57pm

re: #403 albusteve

there are some huge, unidentifiable insects invading the bunkhouse

If you snap a digital photo, upload a pic to LGF. :o

411 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:27:30pm

re: #404 Capitalist Tool

re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist

Did you blend your own or a pkg... 7 spices-8?

Bought it premixed in a package from the local Middle Eastern deli/grocery place. (Lovely folks, they are standing up to some pressure from the local BDS thugs to stop stocking Israeli products, and have told them to take a flying leap. However you say that in Farsi.)

412 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:27:31pm

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Look like this?

Image: Them!-giant-ants-001.jpg

yikes...I need more firepower

413 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:27:32pm

re: #398 Alouette

Backer of Santa Monica anti-circ initiative has withdrawn petition!

"Foreskin man" has really screwed the pooch.

Sweet.

People don't like to be identified with Nazis for some reason.

414 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:27:58pm

re: #312 Floral Giraffe

Liars & cheaters, seem to go with the mind set of our politicians, these days.
It's unfortunate.
So, how do we change the politicians job, to attract honest folks?

Not to be depressing, but are we sure some of these politicians didn't start as honest folks?

Being elected is a basic transformation of social standing, economic opportunity, self-image: with that opening of options, I don't wonder if a lot of people waver. I mean, most psychological traits bandied about aren't nearly as stable and generalized as we'd like to believe, and I'd imagine that the positional change of having all that power would be transformative.

If I could figure out an experimental model, I'd try and get a grant to study this. Unfortunately, the rich and powerful generally don't fund social science studies that scrutinize them.

re: #342 thedopefishlives

I dunno. Properly roasted troll buttocks is quite a delicacy around here. Too bad I missed all the action; I've been looking to test some new spice mixes.

I'm not likely to engage in savage, ugly partisanship over politics, but my bias towards Hebrew National franks is unyielding and fanatical.

Coming from an anthropological background, though, I will of course try the local delicacies.

415 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:28:05pm

Chris Matthews on Weiner's Wife: "Maybe She's Partly Responsible"

Youtube Video

What a fucking douchebag.

416 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:28:35pm

re: #411 SanFranciscoZionist

Bought it premixed in a package from the local Middle Eastern deli/grocery place. (Lovely folks, they are standing up to some pressure from the local BDS thugs to stop stocking Israeli products, and have told them to take a flying leap. However you say that in Farsi.)


farsi sounds like 'go fig yourself' i'm sure

417 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:28:52pm

re: #403 albusteve

there are some huge, unidentifiable insects invading the bunkhouse

Ahhhh I saw that movie... it doesn't end well.

418 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:29:39pm

re: #398 Alouette

Backer of Santa Monica anti-circ initiative has withdrawn petition!

"Foreskin man" has really screwed the pooch.

Sweet.

One city down, one to go. I still want to know where they campaigned to put that crap on the ballot.

419 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:29:46pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

Chris Matthews on Weiner's Wife: "Maybe She's Partly Responsible"

[Video]What a fucking douchebag.

How the fuck does Mathews still have a TV show. Unbelievable.

420 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:30:09pm

re: #414 The Ghost of a Flea

...snip
Coming from an anthropological background, though, I will of course try the local delicacies.

Emic or etic?

421 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:30:27pm

re: #411 SanFranciscoZionist

Bought it premixed in a package from the local Middle Eastern deli/grocery place. (Lovely folks, they are standing up to some pressure from the local BDS thugs to stop stocking Israeli products, and have told them to take a flying leap. However you say that in Farsi.)

BDS meaning what in this case? I ask because it has previously stood for Bush Derangement Syndrome.

422 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:30:35pm

re: #410 simoom

If you snap a digital photo, upload a pic to LGF. :o

yesterday I went to the sink to start coffee and there was a 2in cockroach in my sink...they are HUGE and they come up through the drain system when it's so dry...I killed his ass

423 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:30:42pm

re: #418 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

One city down, one to go. I still want to know where they campaigned to put that crap on the ballot.

It is so going down in flames. "Matthew Hess was unavailable for comment."

424 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:30:53pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

Chris Matthews on Weiner's Wife: "Maybe She's Partly Responsible"

[Video]What a fucking douchebag.

It's possible she could have encouraged him. That's a stretch, but stranger things have happened.

425 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:31:13pm

re: #419 Alexzander

How the fuck does Mathews still have a TV show. Unbelievable.

not so hard to figure is it? he's just another party - liner... there are plenty out there to go around, just depends on who cuts the checks as to which party.

426 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:31:32pm

re: #411 SanFranciscoZionist

Bought it premixed in a package from the local Middle Eastern deli/grocery place. (Lovely folks, they are standing up to some pressure from the local BDS thugs to stop stocking Israeli products, and have told them to take a flying leap. However you say that in Farsi.)

The one on Post and Hyde?

427 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:31:49pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

He seems to have completely mangled what Weiner was saying. My take was that he admitted his pre-marital sexting to his wife, continued to do it secretly after they were married, and only now admitted his continued indiscretions to her.

428 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:31:53pm

re: #424 Slumbering Behemoth

It's possible she could have encouraged him. That's a stretch, but stranger things have happened.

Oh I've heard of stranger things in modern marriage, but sans evidence you really shouldn't say such things.

429 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:31:57pm

re: #421 Dark_Falcon

BDS meaning what in this case? I ask because it has previously stood for Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against Israel

430 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:31:58pm

re: #421 Dark_Falcon

BDS meaning what in this case? I ask because it has previously stood for Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Boycot, Divestment, Sanctions. They think Israel is South Africa during apartheid II.

431 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:32:01pm

re: #419 Alexzander

How the fuck does Mathews still have a TV show. Unbelievable.

MSNBC will hire just about anyone. Why this idiot still is working after so many stupid comments is beyond me. This is probably the worst one I that I can think of.

432 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:32:08pm

re: #414 The Ghost of a Flea

Not to be depressing, but are we sure some of these politicians didn't start as honest folks?

Being elected is a basic transformation of social standing, economic opportunity, self-image: with that opening of options, I don't wonder if a lot of people waver. I mean, most psychological traits bandied about aren't nearly as stable and generalized as we'd like to believe, and I'd imagine that the positional change of having all that power would be transformative.

If I could figure out an experimental model, I'd try and get a grant to study this. Unfortunately, the rich and powerful generally don't fund social science studies that scrutinize them.

re: #342 thedopefishlives

I'm not likely to engage in savage, ugly partisanship over politics, but my bias towards Hebrew National franks is unyielding and fanatical.

Coming from an anthropological background, though, I will of course try the local delicacies.

Have both. [slides a plate with a hot dog and a slice of Gamey Buttocks down to GOAF.]

433 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:32:21pm

re: #417 Mr Pancakes

Ahhh I saw that movie... it doesn't end well.

no fucking foot long centipede is gonna do me in...it's those 100 footers

434 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:32:23pm

re: #422 albusteve

yesterday I went to the sink to start coffee and there was a 2in cockroach in my sink...they are HUGE and they come up through the drain system when it's so dry...I killed his ass

Two words....... boric acid...... it works.

435 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:32:37pm

re: #429 Alouette

Beat my by one second because I forgot how to spell apartheid.

436 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:32:56pm

re: #421 Dark_Falcon

BDS meaning what in this case? I ask because it has previously stood for Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. It's supposedly modeled on the same movement aginat South African Apartheid in the 80s, except that was against *actual* apartheid.

437 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:33:11pm

re: #428 JasonA

Oh I've heard of stranger things in modern marriage, but sans evidence you really shouldn't say such things.

I completely agree. Maybe Chris has a tingle for Weiner?

438 Kragar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:33:20pm

re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist

Made mafroum the other day. Pretty good food, except that all this stuffing vegetables that North African cooking is so into is not really all that interesting to me. I'm thinking of sort of deconstructing the dish.

Got some homemade bbq pork ribs baking in the oven right now.

439 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:33:22pm

re: #415 NJDhockeyfan

Chris Matthews on Weiner's Wife: "Maybe She's Partly Responsible"

[Video]What a fucking douchebag.

Given her own background in politics, I have to say that I don't know what she was thinking if she thought he could do that and not have there be problems down the road, but she's not the Congresscritter, and she doesn't owe the public jack.

440 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:33:24pm

re: #425 Capitalist Tool

not so hard to figure is it? he's just another party - liner... there are plenty out there to go around, just depends on who cuts the checks as to which party.

surprise!
let me post a million words

441 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:34:50pm

re: #438 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Got some homemade bbq pork ribs baking in the oven right now.

baking?

The
Horror


The
Horror

442 Ericus58  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:35:26pm

re: #433 albusteve

no fucking foot long centipede is gonna do me in...it's those 100 footers

Youtube Video
443 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:35:35pm

re: #421 Dark_Falcon

BDS meaning what in this case? I ask because it has previously stood for Bush Derangement Syndrome.

Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. It's an anti-Israel economic strategy.

444 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:35:49pm

re: #441 Capitalist Tool

baking?

The
Horror

The
Horror

They could turn out, with a Momofuku style brine.

445 Kragar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:36:32pm

re: #441 Capitalist Tool

baking?

The
Horror

The
Horror

Foil wrapped, slow cooked, first with a rub, just added the bbq sauce for the last 45 minutes.

446 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:36:47pm

re: #433 albusteve

no fucking foot long centipede is gonna do me in...it's those 100 footers

No man...... it was small but powerful in numbers and they had human like heads.

447 prairiefire  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:36:52pm

re: #120 marjoriemoon

Flirt? If he was sending erection pictures to young woman, he was doing a hellofa lot more than flirting.

Let's put it this way, if I caught my husband doing what Weiner did, I'd finish his circumcision (you know, just to keep the chat timely).

This is not an "open the door for you with a flourish" type of "bat your eyelashes" type of flirting.

448 jaunte  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:37:06pm

re: #444 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They could turn out, with a Momofuku style brine.

Link! [Link: steamykitchen.com...]

449 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:37:24pm

re: #434 Mr Pancakes

Two words... boric acid... it works.

my old iron line is busted some place..I've had a few problems, but I know I have to reset a new drain line to the pvc the county put in a few years ago...I have to go underneath my patio, the logistics are tricky

450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:37:54pm

re: #423 Alouette

"Matthew Hess was unavailable for comment."

Matthew Heß needs to go take a dip in the lake.

451 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:38:01pm

re: #424 Slumbering Behemoth

It's possible she could have encouraged him. That's a stretch, but stranger things have happened.

If that's the case the marriage is doomed. Especially inside of one year.

452 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:38:06pm

re: #439 SanFranciscoZionist

Given her own background in politics, I have to say that I don't know what she was thinking if she thought he could do that and not have there be problems down the road, but she's not the Congresscritter, and she doesn't owe the public jack.

He sexted those young women. He sent pictures of himself to those women. He did it behind his family's back. He lied to the press. He lied to his constituents. He lied for days to everyone about it.

His wife is not responsible for anything. Chris Matthews is a douchebag for even suggesting it.

453 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:38:21pm

re: #429 Alouette

Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against Israel

Ah, I see. My dad ran into some of those assholes outside a Trader Joe's once, gave them a good talking to. Of course, the fact that he's more articulate than those Joe College wiseasses and 6'4" helped too.

454 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:38:43pm

re: #450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Matthew Heß needs to go take a dip in the lake.

Matthew Heß can go fuck himself, but, he probably does that anyway.

455 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:38:48pm

re: #426 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The one on Post and Hyde?

No, Zand Market in Albany.

Best Zand story ever--one of my friends was supposed to go there and get some groceries after work. He's half listening, writing stuff down, "Yeah, yeah, honey, right, the kind of pita we always get..", and of course he gets there and realizes he has no idea what kind of pita they always get.

So he looks at the fifteen different brands of pita on the counter, looks at the owner piteously, and says, "What kind of pita does my wife want me to buy?"

The owner glances at his kippa, snags a package out of the wilderness of pita, and says, "Most of my Israeli customers like this one."

It was the right pita.

456 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:39:06pm

4 - 0
4 - 0
4 - 0
What the heck is going on?

Canucks, where the hell are you?

457 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:40:03pm

re: #435 Alexzander

Beat my by one second because I forgot how to spell apartheid.

Yesterday at Israel in the Gardens, we had a guy with a sign accusing Israel of 'apatheid'.

I think that's how you pronounce it with a heavy Boston accent.

458 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:40:08pm

re: #453 Dark_Falcon

Ah, I see. My dad ran into some of those assholes outside a Trader Joe's once, gave them a good talking to. Of course, the fact that he's more articulate than those Joe College wiseasses and 6'4" helped too.

I'm 5'10"....I skoff at tall guys, 6 more inches of vulnerability

459 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:40:31pm

re: #442 Ericus58

[Video]

One of my all time favorites in the genre of hilariously ridiculous monster moves. The sequels were pretty damn funny as well.

Ass Blasters!

460 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:41:22pm

re: #447 prairiefire

This is not an "open the door for you with a flourish" type of "bat your eyelashes" type of flirting.

hehe No it's not!

I figure that women who marry powerful men are probably not the jealous sorts and have to put up with a lot of "eyelash batting", but there's a line that can be drawn and it doesn't have to go so far as knocking up your mistress and wife at the same time.

461 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:41:25pm

re: #451 Mr Pancakes

If that's the case the marriage is doomed. Especially inside of one year.

Depends. They could be swingers.

462 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:41:53pm

re: #455 SanFranciscoZionist

No, Zand Market in Albany.

Ah, right on Solano. Friend of mine lives around the corner.

The internet is so tiny.

463 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:42:09pm

re: #458 albusteve

I'm 5'10"...I skoff at tall guys, 6 more inches of vulnerability

It's not the size of the dog in the fight
It's the size of the fight in the dog

464 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:42:18pm

re: #450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Matthew Heß needs to go take a dip in the lake.

He can do a long goosestep off a short pier.

465 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:43:03pm

re: #461 Slumbering Behemoth

Depends. They could be swingers.

Real swingers.

466 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:43:29pm

re: #462 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ah, right on Solano. Friend of mine lives around the corner.

The internet is so tiny.

You're a Bay Area Lizard? We have GOT to figure out a way to have a Bay Area Lizard get-together.

467 Stanghazi  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:43:38pm

re: #444 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They could turn out, with a Momofuku style brine.

First I've seen a Momofuku reference here. Cheers! My friends had a great dinner there.

468 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:44:01pm

re: #463 HoosierHoops

It's not the size of the dog in the fight
It's the size of the fight in the dog

Yeah, but if the big dog's got as much fight as the small dog while being much larger, then the small dog's in for a mauling.

469 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:44:39pm

re: #460 marjoriemoon

hehe No it's not!

I figure that women who marry powerful men are probably not the jealous sorts and have to put up with a lot of "eyelash batting", but there's a line that can be drawn and it doesn't have to go so far as knocking up your mistress and wife at the same time.

know a guy who inherited a regional privately owned telco and pulled a stunt like getting his girlfriend pregnant- now his wife's the millionaire... they may not be jealous types but they are sure as hell shrewd.

470 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:45:00pm

re: #463 HoosierHoops

It's not the size of the dog in the fight
It's the size of the fight in the dog

remember Occasional Reader?...always off to the gym to sculpt his Adonis body?...then off to the range to shoot his $1200 Kimber?...I loved that guy, don't know whatever happened to him

471 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:45:26pm

re: #468 Dark_Falcon

Bruce Lee vs Sammo Hung.

WHO YA GOT?!

472 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:45:39pm

re: #468 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but if the big dog's got as much fight as the small dog while being much larger, then the small dog's in for a mauling.

don't bet on it

473 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:46:05pm

Zand Market introduced me to Mashti Malone ice cream, which is an ice cream company from LA (otherwise, I am told, know as Tehrangeles) founded by a couple of Iranian guys who couldn't find the ice cream flavors they liked locally.

Saffron and rosewater and pistachio and pomegranate and lavender and good LORD it's good.

When I went in last time, they didn't have any, and I didn't get a chance to ask if they still stocked it.

474 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:46:18pm

re: #452 NJDhockeyfan

He sexted those young women.

I've seen the ages of two published so far: 26 and 40. I suppose if you don't buy his explanation on the underwear pic tweet, which was deleted almost immediately, before the recipient ever saw it, you can add her age to the list too.

475 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:46:24pm

re: #471 Slumbering Behemoth

Bruce Lee vs Sammo Hung.

WHO YA GOT?!

I heard Anthony Weiner put all his money on Dr. Hung Lo.

476 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:46:45pm

re: #469 Capitalist Tool

know a guy who inherited a regional privately owned telco and pulled a stunt like getting his girlfriend pregnant- now his wife's the millionaire... they may not be jealous types but they are sure as hell shrewd.

I should have married a rich man!

477 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:46:55pm

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

I heard Anthony Weiner put all his money on Dr. Hung Lo.

Quit jerking around and just say what you mean.
/

478 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:47:22pm

re: #466 SanFranciscoZionist

You're a Bay Area Lizard? We have GOT to figure out a way to have a Bay Area Lizard get-together.

It's just a matter of time for San Diego Lizards as well........ I'm just waiting to hear when they are going to remove my ankle bracelet.

479 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:47:30pm

Conflict resolution as it should be.

480 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:48:37pm

re: #470 albusteve

remember Occasional Reader?...always off to the gym to sculpt his Adonis body?...then off to the range to shoot his $1200 Kimber?...I loved that guy, don't know whatever happened to him

He posts at C2...Not sure where else

481 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:48:38pm

re: #420 Decatur Deb

Emic or etic?

My dad was an ethnographer who worked with nomads in Pakistan, so I've been indoctrinated with "emic" methodology since I was wee. I didn't get far enough in grad school to really nail myself to one methodology or the other. My concern about both is that the individual anthropologist is often an imperfect valve, and within academic circles you're fiscally and socially rewarded to postulate or claim big, brassy things about your subjects.

482 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:48:46pm

re: #474 simoom

I've seen the ages of two published so far: 26 and 40. I suppose if you don't buy his explanation on the underwear pic tweet, which was deleted almost immediately, before the recipient ever saw it, you can add her age to the list too.


You mean that it was from a hacker? He's a liar. Everyone knows it. No, I don't believe his explanation.

483 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:50:20pm

re: #476 marjoriemoon

I should have married a rich man!

At a temp job back in the day, I came back from lunch and my supervisor says to me "The girl of your dreams was in here earlier with a check for a million dollars, looking for you. Too bad you missed her".

I said "Just as well, 'cuz my girlfriend would've been pissed if I came home and dumped her".

He says "Ah, you're a smart man. I was stupid and married for love instead of money".

484 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:52:00pm

so, heard any good blonde joakes lately?
(ducks)

485 kirkspencer  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:52:49pm

re: #414 The Ghost of a Flea

Not to be depressing, but are we sure some of these politicians didn't start as honest folks?

Being elected is a basic transformation of social standing, economic opportunity, self-image: with that opening of options, I don't wonder if a lot of people waver. I mean, most psychological traits bandied about aren't nearly as stable and generalized as we'd like to believe, and I'd imagine that the positional change of having all that power would be transformative.

If I could figure out an experimental model, I'd try and get a grant to study this. Unfortunately, the rich and powerful generally don't fund social science studies that scrutinize them.

(snip)

The counter hypothesis is that it requires both a particular self-image and behavior to successfully run for significant office. Saying it ugly, you have to believe and convince others that you are Hot Stuff, better than all the rest. This behavior pattern is also very successful at getting sex, and the self-image makes it easy to believe this is a right.

486 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:53:17pm

re: #484 Capitalist Tool

so, heard any good blonde joakes lately?
(ducks)

Why did the blonde climb the chain-link fence?

To see what was on the other-side.

487 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:54:17pm

re: #481 The Ghost of a Flea

"We usually recommend that our students be of independent means."--Honest British Anthro grad school catalogue

488 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:54:39pm

re: #456 b_sharp

4 - 0
4 - 0
4 - 0
What the heck is going on?

Canucks, where the hell are you?

MIA, would be my guess...

489 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:54:49pm

I did have a interesting delay coming home from work today. The resulting photo was "fucking golden!".

490 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:54:58pm

re: #483 Slumbering Behemoth

At a temp job back in the day, I came back from lunch and my supervisor says to me "The girl of your dreams was in here earlier with a check for a million dollars, looking for you. Too bad you missed her".

I said "Just as well, 'cuz my girlfriend would've been pissed if I came home and dumped her".

He says "Ah, you're a smart man. I was stupid and married for love instead of money".

Knowing my luck, I'd still end up penniless.

491 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:55:00pm

re: #486 Mr Pancakes

Why did the blonde climb the chain-link fence?

To see what was on the other-side.

Blonde drops off her blouse at the dry cleaners and as she's leaving, the owner says "Come again'.
"Just mustard, this time", she replied.

492 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:55:21pm

re: #463 HoosierHoops

It's not the size of the dog in the fight
It's the size of the fight in the dog

Says the big dog!

493 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:55:21pm

re: #488 Floral Giraffe

MIA, would be my guess...

No kidding.

494 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:55:24pm

re: #489 Dark_Falcon

I did have a interesting delay coming home from work today. The resulting photo was "fucking golden!".

Blogo?

495 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:55:59pm

Are: #484 Capitalist Tool

See:

Youtube Video
496 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:56:03pm

re: #466 SanFranciscoZionist

You're a Bay Area Lizard? We have GOT to figure out a way to have a Bay Area Lizard get-together.

At that nom nom nom restaurant!
I'd show up for that!

497 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:57:56pm

Oh, oh. Now I feel better. It's 5 - 1.

Stupid Monkeys.

498 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:57:57pm

re: #494 Mr Pancakes

Blogo?

Yes, that's him. I was on my way to the Blue Line station at Jackson, and passed in front of the Federal building as he was leaving. They blocked off the sidewalk for a bit to let him work the crowd.

499 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:58:41pm

re: #498 Dark_Falcon

Yes, that's him. I was on my way to the Blue Line station at Jackson, and passed in front of the Federal building as he was leaving. They blocked off the sidewalk for a bit to let him work the crowd.

Cool dude!

500 engineer cat  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:59:28pm

re: #466 SanFranciscoZionist

You're a Bay Area Lizard? We have GOT to figure out a way to have a Bay Area Lizard get-together.


i say we all get together in a booth at San Francisco's Oldest Cold Weather Restaurant

501 Ericus58  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:59:34pm

re: #488 Floral Giraffe

MIA, would be my guess...

Well, seeing how the 3rd period went all medieval with the physical action and resulting 10's and game misconducts.... we got a series on our hands now ;)

502 Stanghazi  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 7:59:54pm

Hello Boston!!!! Oh and there's a Bruins shirt on the Paul Revere statute. (sic)

503 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:00:58pm

re: #500 engineer dog

i say we all get together in a booth at San Francisco's Oldest Cold Weather Restaurant

Yeah, the Tadich would be perfect. Pricey, though.

504 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:01:00pm

re: #502 stanley sea

Hello Boston!!! Oh and there's a Bruins shirt on the Paul Revere statute. (sic)

Blech! Gag! Snort!

Damn stupid monkeys.

505 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:01:18pm

re: #497 b_sharp

Oh, oh. Now I feel better. It's 5 - 1.

Stupid Monkeys.

Who can focus on hockey when Andrew Breitbart's feelings are on the line? Obviously not the Canuks.

506 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:01:26pm

re: #485 kirkspencer

The counter hypothesis is that it requires both a particular self-image and behavior to successfully run for significant office. Saying it ugly, you have to believe and convince others that you are Hot Stuff, better than all the rest. This behavior pattern is also very successful at getting sex, and the self-image makes it easy to believe this is a right.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd love to do create conditions testing candidates before and after elections to see how much is stable traits and how much there is a contextual effect. I wouldn't claim that either is 100%, I'm just curious if it could be modeled/profiled.

re: #487 Decatur Deb

"We usually recommend that our students be of independent means."--Honest British Anthro grad school catalogue

Not why I quit, but absolutely true.

507 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:01:27pm

re: #499 Mr Pancakes

Cool dude!

It's an interesting photo, and I'm glad I took it. I still hate him though. But that's to be expected from a Chicago Machine-hating Republican.

508 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:02:09pm

Ah, Stewart start in on C**kshot 2011.

509 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:03:07pm

re: #502 stanley sea

Hello Boston!!! Oh and there's a Bruins shirt on the Paul Revere statute. (sic)

Just as he wore when he defended the 2nd Amendment against twittered penises and all that.

510 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:03:50pm

Well, thanks to the reference to Momofuku- wow!
have long ago exceeded my quota of fun here and will have a short night's sleep to pay for it.
out.

511 ElCapitanAmerica  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:03:50pm

Maddow clip, LGF page at 1:57

MSNBC Video

Can't figure out how to embed it here, sorry.

512 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:04:06pm

re: #505 darthstar

Who can focus on hockey when Andrew Breitbart's feelings are on the line? Obviously not the Canuks.

Once it was obvious Weiner was guilty, they should postponed the game.

They must have misplaced their goalie.

Robert who?

513 Stanghazi  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:04:15pm

re: #497 b_sharp

Oh, oh. Now I feel better. It's 5 - 1.

Stupid Monkeys.

Heh, you are not happy now.

514 Ericus58  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:04:21pm

Wow - 3 goals in 1:50.....
brutal ending to the game.

Hmmmm, might have to head up to Vancouver on Friday...
Canucks jersey in hand.

515 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:04:36pm

re: #500 engineer dog

i say we all get together in a booth at San Francisco's Oldest Cold Weather Restaurant

Oh Yeah. Their drinks are excellent, got oysters on the half shell, kobe beef...but it is rather expensive.

516 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:05:09pm

'Nite, all.

517 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:05:12pm

re: #507 Dark_Falcon

It's an interesting photo, and I'm glad I took it. I still hate him though. But that's to be expected from a Chicago Machine-hating Republican.

To be honest with you it's a Chicago thing which I have no stake in...... but he was personable on Trump's show. I just find his eyes too beady and close together...... he's a crook. excuse me, he's a product of the Chicago political machine.

518 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:05:13pm

re: #510 Capitalist Tool

Well, thanks to the reference to Momofuku- wow!
have long ago exceeded my quota of fun here and will have a short night's sleep to pay for it.
out.

Momofuku is a great restaurant...My wife and I go there every time we go to NYC (that and Gramercy Tavern)

519 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:06:02pm

re: #515 eclectic infidel

Oh Yeah. Their drinks are excellent, got oysters on the half shell, kobe beef...but it is rather expensive.

the object is to impress...come to ABQ and we'll do drive up tacos, the best you've ever had

520 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:06:56pm

re: #482 NJDhockeyfan

You mean that it was from a hacker? He's a liar. Everyone knows it. No, I don't believe his explanation.

I meant whatever explanation he offered in his press conference for who he actually intended the tweet for. I didn't watch it, and only now just checked the transcript where he appears to admit it was actually intended for the very woman he sent it too:

WEINER: Last Friday night, I tweeted a photograph of myself that I intended to send as a direct message as part of a joke to a woman in Seattle. Once I realized I had posted it to Twitter, I panicked. I took it down and said that I had been hacked. I then continued with that story -- to stick to that story, which was a hugely regrettable mistake. This woman was unwittingly dragged into this and bears absolutely no responsibility. I am so sorry to have disrupted her life in this way.

To be clear, the picture was of me, and I sent it. I am deeply sorry for the pain this has caused my wife Huma and our family and my constituents, my friends, supporters and staff. In addition, over the past few years, I have engaged in several inappropriate conversations conducted over Twitter, Facebook, email and occasionally on the phone with women I had met online. I've exchanged messages and photos of an explicit nature with about six women over the last three years. For the most part, these communications took place before my marriage, though some have sadly took place after. To be clear, I have never met any of these women or had physical relationships at any time.

The ages reported so far are 21, 26 and 40 then. The older two were apparently longer term, consensual exchanges.

BTW, without having read anymore of the transcript, that first sentence:

Last Friday night, I tweeted a photograph of myself that I intended to send as a direct message as part of a joke to a woman in Seattle.

If he's saying he intentionally sent an unsolicited photo of his underwear clad erection to a stranger whose only connection to him was mutual twitter following, that's sexually harassing behavior and he should resign. I'll need to read further to see if he makes clear whether or not they had more of a relationship.

521 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:07:21pm

re: #519 albusteve

the object is to impress...come to ABQ and we'll do drive up tacos, the best you've ever had

Oh god I live off New Mexico red and/or green enchiladas. Get the chilli shipped here.

522 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:08:07pm

re: #11 Charles

Go check out your "Dumbest Man on the Internet".

Daily Kos member posted a satirical theory that the Anthony Weiner
Press Conference was a hoax, perpetrated by a right wing conspiracy.
Kos members went along by agreeing with him in the accompanynig
poll

Jim Hoft thought it was serious.......

523 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:08:21pm

re: #517 Mr Pancakes

To be honest with you it's a Chicago thing which I have no stake in... but he was personable on Trump's show. I just find his eyes too beady and close together... he's a crook. excuse me, he's a product of the Chicago political machine.

He can be quite charming and he's skilled at showing people what that want to see. There's a reason he was elected governor of Illinois. And he may be our 4th Gov in the last 50 years to go to prison.

524 Stanghazi  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:08:41pm

re: #500 engineer dog

i say we all get together in a booth at San Francisco's Oldest Cold Weather Restaurant

My aunt and I on a visit to SF had the best time there. They treated us golden. Even got us a car, not a cab back to our hotel. Great memory.

525 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:08:51pm

re: #522 Hawaii69

Weiner Press Conference was faked!!

[Link: gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...]

526 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:09:14pm

re: #521 Alexzander

Oh god I live off New Mexico red and/or green enchiladas. Get the chilli shipped here.

there is virtually zilch out of state market for NM chile...really a shame, but we've tried

527 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:09:38pm

re: #513 stanley sea

Heh, you are not happy now.

What did they have in goal, a chunk of cardboard?

Luongo won't be in net next game.

Where were the Sedin brothers, Burger King?

528 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:09:57pm

re: #522 Hawaii69

Go check out your "Dumbest Man on the Internet".

Daily Kos member posted a satirical theory that the Anthony Weiner
Press Conference was a hoax, perpetrated by a right wing conspiracy.
Kos members went along by agreeing with him in the accompanynig
poll

Jim Hoft thought it was serious...

That sounds like Hoft.

Follow on to the Weiner's weiner-pic:

"The Kos punks Jim 'Dim' Hoft".

529 What, me worry?  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:10:02pm

re: #511 ElCapitanAmerica

Maddow clip, LGF page at 1:57

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Can't figure out how to embed it here, sorry.

Tre cool!

530 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:10:28pm

re: #520 simoom

without having read anymore of the transcript, that first sentence:

Last Friday night, I tweeted a photograph of myself that I intended to send as a direct message as part of a joke to a woman in Seattle.

A joke? Is that what he calls it now? Excuse me if I don't get the joke. I must have missed the punch line.

531 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:10:50pm

re: #525 Hawaii69

Weiner Press Conference was faked!!

[Link: gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...]

re: #525 Hawaii69

Weiner Press Conference was faked!!

[Link: gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com...]

Holy shit. What a fucking moron...

532 Stanghazi  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:11:06pm

re: #518 darthstar

Momofuku is a great restaurant...My wife and I go there every time we go to NYC (that and Gramercy Tavern)

You suck in an excellent gastronomically way!

533 Alexzander  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:11:11pm

re: #526 albusteve

there is virtually zilch out of state market for NM chile...really a shame, but we've tried

Wow definitely wouldn't have expected that. I've shipped huge boxes myself - basically a second briefcase for friends in the PNW.

Where do you recommend tacos in ABQ?

534 mikec6666  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:11:28pm

The guys batting 1 for, what, a million? Yeah, congratulations a-hole, you finally got one.

535 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:11:50pm

re: #524 stanley sea

My aunt and I on a visit to SF had the best time there. They treated us golden. Even got us a car, not a cab back to our hotel. Great memory.

I used to eat lunch there about twice a month when I worked downtown...good food...then I went with my ex-wife (back during our divorce) and wound up vomiting up my entire lunch in the bathroom before I paid the bill...so glad I didn't take her to my favorite places to eat.

536 Mr Pancakes  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:12:38pm

re: #519 albusteve

the object is to impress...come to ABQ and we'll do drive up tacos, the best you've ever had

Here in the Southwest (where we both live Steve) you can get em really really really close to Mexican fare..... but in Mexico they are cheaper and you have the ambiance...... makes them better.

Nothing like dodging drug cartel bullets while sucking down a taco. It just doesn't get any better than that.

537 Mark Winter  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:12:40pm

Apology?

- You're such an asshole!
- Apologize!
- OK. I'm sorry that you're such an asshole!

Easy

538 darthstar  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:12:43pm

re: #532 stanley sea

You suck in an excellent gastronomically way!

The lardo at Momofuku was to die for...a completely decadent appetizer of fat and bread.

539 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:13:19pm

Jon Oliver's reporting on the tour bus.

540 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:13:49pm

re: #533 Alexzander

Wow definitely wouldn't have expected that. I've shipped huge boxes myself - basically a second briefcase for friends in the PNW.

Where do you recommend tacos in ABQ?

oh man...good tacos are all over the city
there is no best place...like pizza in NYC

541 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:14:18pm

re: #539 JasonA

Jon Oliver's reporting on the tour bus.

Who is Jon Oliver?

542 albusteve  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:15:41pm

re: #536 Mr Pancakes

Here in the Southwest (where we both live Steve) you can get em really really really close to Mexican fare... but in Mexico they are cheaper and you have the ambiance... makes them better.

Nothing like dodging drug cartel bullets while sucking down a taco. It just doesn't get any better than that.

maybe the best take out I've ever had was at the huge, renowned Hispanio flea market in Chicago...old Mexico

543 Four More Tears  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:16:25pm

Ha! He gets a chance to ask Sarah a question and he asks "Where's the bus?"

544 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:16:52pm

For Bay Area lizards, may I suggest Old Jerusalem in the Mission District.

545 Hawaii69  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:18:21pm

re: #530 NJDhockeyfan


A joke? Is that what he calls it now? Excuse me if I don't get the joke. I must have missed the punch line.

No kidding...I saw that bulge. That thing was no joke.....

546 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:21:46pm

There is (was?) a little hole in the wall inSanta Fe that had the best Green Chili in the universe- "John's Real Burgers".

I'd forsake all the great restaurants in town and eat there relentlessly during market.

Tried my best to emulate it at home and never made better than a faint imitation of it, but won the first chili cook- off i ever entered with it.

547 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:22:23pm

re: #545 Hawaii69

A joke? Is that what he calls it now? Excuse me if I don't get the joke. I must have missed the punch line.No kidding...I saw that bulge. That thing was no joke...

sockpuppet?

548 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:23:20pm

re: #526 albusteve

there is virtually zilch out of state market for NM chile...really a shame, but we've tried

I was in AZ and my host served red enchiladas with those NM chile...those things are magic. Are they available in the Midwest by any chance? Because I would seriously buy in bulk and process them for keeping.

549 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:24:16pm

re: #502 stanley sea

Hello Boston!!! Oh and there's a Bruins shirt on the Paul Revere statute. (sic)

You look good it it.
?WHat?
LOL!

550 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:25:23pm

re: #522 Hawaii69

Go check out your "Dumbest Man on the Internet".

Daily Kos member posted a satirical theory that the Anthony Weiner
Press Conference was a hoax, perpetrated by a right wing conspiracy.
Kos members went along by agreeing with him in the accompanynig
poll

Jim Hoft thought it was serious...

Jim Hoft IS the dumbest man on the internet.

551 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:25:36pm

re: #545 Hawaii69

A joke? Is that what he calls it now? Excuse me if I don't get the joke. I must have missed the punch line.No kidding...I saw that bulge. That thing was no joke...

"In the gray panty photo, were you fully erect? Were you fully erect or are you capable of more?"
~ Benjy Bronk at today's Weiner press conference

Youtube Video
552 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:27:04pm

re: #547 Capitalist Tool

sockpuppet?

No, meat popsicle.

/5th Element joke

553 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:32:14pm

re: #530 NJDhockeyfan

A joke? Is that what he calls it now? Excuse me if I don't get the joke. I must have missed the punch line.

Since she seems to have been the source of the release of the photo, she may not have considered it a joke.

554 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:33:11pm

re: #520 simoom

I'll need to read further to see if he makes clear whether or not they had more of a relationship.

This is all I saw in the rest of the press conference transcript:

REP. WEINER: Yes, yes. We had exchanged some perfunctory direct messages, but there wasn't -- we had never spoken.

...

REP. WEINER: No, we had -- I mean, I don't know her, and I still don't really know her. She was a follower who -- we had cursory direct message contact that she had -- was having trouble with some people on -- that were tweeting about her and giving her a hard time because they were -- she was following me.

"Perfunctory" and "cursory"...

Absent anything further it sounds like his underwear-erection tweet was unsolicited / unwanted and something akin to a subway pervert flashing a fellow commuter (though, in a similar underwear-clad fashion, I suppose).

555 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:33:18pm

re: #544 eclectic infidel

For Bay Area lizards, may I suggest Old Jerusalem in the Mission District.

Yum! They got beer?

556 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:35:25pm

re: #553 SanFranciscoZionist

A joke? Is that what he calls it now? Excuse me if I don't get the joke. I must have missed the punch line.

Since she seems to have been the source of the release of the photo, she may not have considered it a joke.

She just doesn't understand Weiner's sense of humor.

557 simoom  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:43:01pm

re: #553 SanFranciscoZionist

Since she seems to have been the source of the release of the photo, she may not have considered it a joke.

That was actually a different woman than the one who was tweeted. The one who released their communications, photos and has been making the rounds today doing interviews on the subject had a longer-term internet relationship with Weiner -- she also received the same grey underwear-clad photo and still more explicit photos by e-mail. Weiner appears to have reused same underpants photo, weeks later, in the tweet that started this whole scandal.

558 BishopX  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 8:50:10pm

re: #557 simoom

In the case of the woman who leaked the material to AB, Weiner apparently asked before sending her the picture. I hope the same holds true for for the infamous tweet.

559 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 9:03:11pm

re: #555 SanFranciscoZionist

Yum! They got beer?

Don't know - but we will be in the Mission and there are plenty of dives around for such consumption.

560 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 9:17:23pm

re: #232 albusteve

the thing that bothers me the most about Weiner is this...he behaved like a high school kid...flashing, and showing off and disregarding all propriety for a man his age...make all the excuse you want about the net and culture, but it's a shallow riff...Weiner is an undeveloped old kid, and fucking up in this way is simply inexcusable...his protectors sound ridiculous

Then why bash Nancy Pelosi for saying the same thing?

561 funky chicken  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 9:23:18pm

re: #530 NJDhockeyfan

A joke? Is that what he calls it now? Excuse me if I don't get the joke. I must have missed the punch line.

I can believe the joke thing. He was just goofing/joking around online. What I don't get is that somebody so smart, and who is in an important position of responsibility didn't understand that this kind of raunchy joke is best left behind when one leaves college.

562 lostlakehiker  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 2:22:49am

The line on this forum was that Breitbart's story about Weiner was fraudulent from top to bottom. A complete fabrication.

But then there's this.

Evidently, it wasn't exactly Breitbart who was lying.

563 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:39:41am

re: #473 SanFranciscoZionist

Saffron and rosewater and pistachio and pomegranate and lavender and good LORD it's good.

Oh man I will have to try that. I will be over there on Friday in fact, so I'm going to stop by and see if they have some. Thx for the rec!

564 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:41:27am

re: #500 engineer dog

i say we all get together in a booth at San Francisco's Oldest Cold Weather Restaurant

Ah yeah, the home of cioppino. Sounds good to me.

565 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 3:45:26am

re: #564 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Sure, now that I leave SF for New York, y'all have a party.

566 abolitionist  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:25:16am

Blogger says he has X-rated photo involving Weiner

WASHINGTON - The conservative blogger who reported that a photo of a man's crotch had been sent from Rep. Anthony Weiner's Twitter account to a woman college student says he has an X-rated picture he'll publicize if the New York Democrat attempts reprisals against him.

Conservative activist Andrew Breitbart of the website BigGovernment.com tells NBC's "Today" show he considers the image "an insurance policy" against attacks from Weiner, who on Monday admitted the crotch photo was of him.

An insurance policy, Breitbart? I think you've just admitted to the whole world the true nature of what you've been up to.

Yellow journalsim is not an accurate description.

567 leftynyc  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:32:41am

re: #198 Charles

A good lawyer wouldn't even ask if the pictures are really him. It's irrelevant to their job, which is to advocate for the client. They don't want to know, because if the client tells them something that indicates guilt, they're ethically bound to recuse themselves.

Not exactly. They aren't ethically bound to recuse. They just can't tell the client to lie and if they know he's going to lie on the stand, then he/she should recuse. Otherwise it's suborning perjury.

568 abolitionist  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 8:34:33am

I want to see the whole interview with Breitbart, because this cyberslop-regurgitated-AI-word-salad of a news article doesn't stand up to scrutiny, on the point of whether "insurance policy" is attributable to Breitbart. In fact, it's flatly self-contadictory.

I should have read the whole thing carefully before posting.

569 abolitionist  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:08:28am

This is more detailed coverage of the NBC Today interview Matt Lauer.

Breitbart Says He's Holding X-Rated Weiner Photo
Asked pointedly if he's keeping alleged image as insurance policy, blogger says, "I don't like to think of it that way."

Lauer pressed further, sparking this exchange:

LAUER: Under no circumstance will you release that? In other words, let's say Anthony Weiner supporters target you in some other way?

BREITBART: If Anthony Weiner decides to make this a jihad against me for his interpretation of putting me into this situation, you know what, I'll take that as a – you know, you said an insurance policy. Maybe. I can't foresee a circumstance in which I would release that. I don't think I want to put his family through that type of thing. But for instance, I've already started to hear words that Megan, the woman who came forth, people are prying through her private life. And they're-

LAUER: So would you use that photo to protect these women?

BREITBART: That's – you know, I'm not thinking of it that way, but I certainly have it in my possession. And I guarantee you he would use this against me and the people on the left side of the blogosphere would have used this against me. I could have put that out there and his career would have been over today.

In his final question to Breitbart, Lauer wondered: "Had you come into possession of photographs of a Republican congressman that were similar in nature to the photograph you received of Anthony Weiner, would you have been as quick to post that photograph?" Breitbart replied: "Yes....I'm repulsed when it's, when it's, you know, Larry Craig that's involved in these type of behaviors or Ensign, the Senator from Nevada....these guys put themselves in a blackmail-able situation."

As far as I can see, that "Maybe" is the closest Breitbart came to owning the phrase "insurance policy".

570 Obdicut  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 9:10:12am

re: #569 abolitionist

There are, however, stories that he's showing it to people in bars.

571 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 10:11:58am

re: #562 lostlakehiker

The line on this forum was that Breitbart's story about Weiner was fraudulent from top to bottom. A complete fabrication.

That's right, and I'm not apologizing for defending Weiner, or for disbelieving Andrew Breitbart.

Breitbart was right this time, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a despicable creep who smears innocent people. And the next time he does it, I'll defend Breitbart's target then too.

572 Hawaii69  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:43:04pm

re: #566 abolitionist

Blogger says he has X-rated photo involving Weiner


An insurance policy, Breitbart? I think you've just admitted to the whole world the true nature of what you've been up to.

Yellow journalsim is not an accurate description.


Sound a bit like extortion.

573 Hawaii69  Tue, Jun 7, 2011 12:46:20pm

re: #541 NJDhockeyfan

Who is Jon Oliver?

A british comedian who is one of Jon Stewart's fake "Field Reporters"
on the show. He's pretty funny.


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