Dan Gillmor: Breitbart’s Credibility Rises - To Zero

How can someone raise his credibility to zero?
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Here’s a good piece by Dan Gillmor, on the credibility of fraudster Andrew Breitbart, which has risen in the wake of the Anthony Weiner scandal — to zero: Andrew Breitbart and the unwilling suspension of disbelief.

The entire Weiner affair has shown the worst of American politics, culture and media. Hypocrisy and mendacity abound, and have crowded out vastly more important issues from the attention they deserve. But the case also helps illustrate the evolving nature of credibility in media, especially in a “digital age”.

I was one of the doubters in this case, and said so in several places, including this column, where I called it “doubly suspicious given that it was first reported by a rightwing website run by a man who’s notorious for spreading misinformation”. Indeed, the doings of Breitbart and his allies have led any reasonable observer to strongly doubt the accuracy of what they say.

Getting it right in this highly visible case does improve his record. But do I consider him credible? No. In fact, I believe he’s merely raised his credibility to zero at this point.

How can someone raise his credibility to zero? By having negative credibility in the first place.

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1 Alexzander  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:28:22am

I dont really have much to add here. I think I am completely Breitbart/Weiner exhausted.

2 Transfromnation  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:28:32am

If you ask me, his credibility is still at about -25. And that’s being generous.

3 Kragar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:29:16am

Breitbart is living proof that when you toss around enough bullshit, eventually something is going to stick.

4 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:33:31am

His past peccadiloes will be forgotten and forgiven, he will be touted again as a guiding light of investigative journalism and will go on to outdo himself once again.

5 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:34:13am

re: #4 ralphieboy

His past peccadiloes will be forgotten and forgiven, he will be touted again as a guiding light of investigative journalism and will go on to outdo himself once again.

Sadly, you’re right.

6 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:34:33am

If Wiener had made a habit of doing this, it was only a matter of time before he pushed the proverbial “send to all” button.

Other politicians, are you listening?

7 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:36:17am

Weiner is seeking advice from the Clintons on how to clean up his self imposed scandal…I find that totally hilarious, the neophyte goes to the seasoned veterans

8 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:36:36am

All this story proves is that you can’t quite get rich in Vegas by bringing along Andre Brietbart and placing bets against whatever he thinks will happen.

9 makeitstop  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:36:38am

When he owns up and apologizes for everyone he’s ruined and lied about, then and only then will he have reached zero credibility.

I hope to live long enough to see Breitbart get his karmic payback, because it will be one hell of a big one.

10 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:38:30am

re: #9 makeitstop

When he owns up and apologizes for everyone he’s ruined and lied about, then and only then will he have reached zero credibility.

I hope to live long enough to see Breitbart get his karmic payback, because it will be one hell of a big one.

He will at some point, but we will only get to witness it if we have been extra good…

11 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:38:52am

Well, if he was up to zero credibility, it just took a dive with the release of the naked photo.

Imo, Breitbart doesn’t care one whit about his credibility, anyway. If he did, he would not behave the way he does.

12 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:39:54am

The story about the DOE SWAT team turns out to be false: Twitter / @EDPressSec: The Inspector General’s Of …

The Inspector General’s Office does not execute search warrants for late loan payments. Search was related to a criminal investigation.

13 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:42:27am

Mr Gilmor is far too generous. Breitbart’s character and agenda have not changed. He is a hack and opportunist.

In the media world, he occupies the swamp.

14 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:43:45am

re: #6 EmmmieG

If Wiener had made a habit of doing this, it was only a matter of time before he pushed the proverbial “send to all” button.

Other politicians, are you listening?

Hear, hear!

15 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:44:47am

re: #13 researchok

I think he will be a newly added mainstream reporter now.

16 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:45:12am

The point of ‘The Boy Who Cried Wolf” is not that the villagers really should have assumed that THIS time the kid was telling the truth and come running.

17 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:45:53am

Breitbart is so full of himself that he is going to do this (publish false evidence) over and over again until he is arrested/sued. He will never learn. It’s just a matter of time.

18 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:46:07am

re: #15 Amory Blaine

I think he will be a newly added mainstream reporter now.

That will happen only if the MSM make him a part of the tribe.

If they do, well, that speaks volumes. About them.

19 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:46:22am

The press ran with Weinergate as fast as Breitbart released the information. There was no scepticism of the release. He is MSM trusted.

20 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:47:02am

re: #19 Amory Blaine

They ran with the Sherrod story, too. The MSM has lost any critical capacity.

21 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:47:10am

re: #19 Amory Blaine

The press ran with Weinergate as fast as Breitbart released the information. There was no scepticism of the release. He is MSM trusted.

That is about as a depressing a commentary as you can get.

22 Amory Blaine  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:47:45am

re: #21 researchok

I’m fun at parties. :p

23 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:48:12am

re: #22 Amory Blaine

I’m fun at parties. :p

Yeah, that made me laugh

24 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:48:22am

Props to Charles for the correction on my Page on the Dept of Education SWAT raid. I appreciate the catch on that.

I do confess that I am still wondering just why the hell they have a SWAT team to begin with…and what the criminal investigation was.

25 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:48:30am

re: #11 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well, if he was up to zero credibility, it just took a dive with the release of the naked photo.

Imo, Breitbart doesn’t care one whit about his credibility, anyway. If he did, he would not behave the way he does.

That’s just it, he’s going to tell anybody who asks “I kept my word, I didn’t release it, they did.”

26 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:50:45am

re: #20 Obdicut

They ran with the Sherrod story, too. The MSM has lost any critical capacity.

And then there’s the issue of that last q. in the Weiner press conference.

Classy.

27 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:52:04am

Well, given that a drunken Breitbart recklessly released the testicle pic by holding his phone up for others to take pictures of, I’d say his credibility has gone back to the negative after its brief visit to the land of null.

28 Kragar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:53:37am

Speaking of hacks with no credibility…

David Barton says the Founding Fathers opposed teaching evolution (which is a tad surprising since Darwin didn’t publish Origin of Species until the middle of the next century) and that the Revolutionary war was fought to so we could break away from Britain for the purpose of ending slavery.

29 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:53:52am

re: #25 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That’s just it, he’s going to tell anybody who asks “I kept my word, I didn’t release it, they did.”

May the pearl-clutching ensue.

30 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:54:33am

re: #24 celticdragon

Props to Charles for the correction on my Page on the Dept of Education SWAT raid. I appreciate the catch on that.

I do confess that I am still wondering just why the hell they have a SWAT team to begin with…and what the criminal investigation was.

Unruly kindergartners that just flat out refuse to take a nap!
//

31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:55:05am

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of hacks with no credibility…

David Barton says the Founding Fathers opposed teaching evolution (which is a tad surprising since Darwin didn’t publish Origin of Species until the middle of the next century) and that the Revolutionary war was fought to so we could break away from Britain for the purpose of ending slavery.

[Video]

I heard Paul Revere ran and told the British the British were coming.

32 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:56:30am

Matt Welch at Reason Magazine is also running the correction:

Print|Email
Dept. of Education SWAT Raid Update: Not for a Student Loan, DoE Says

Matt Welch | June 8, 2011

Just received an e-mail from Department of Education Deputy Press Secretary Daren Briscoe in regards to this morning’s news that a SWAT team was sent to execute a warrant on the estranged husband of a student-loan defaulter. Briscoe sends along this statement from Press Secretary Justin Hamilton:

Yesterday, the Depart of Education’s office of inspector general executed a search warrant at Stockton California residence with the presence of local law enforcement authorities.

While it was reported in local media that the search was related to a defaulted student loan, that is incorrect. This is related to a criminal investigation. The Inspector General’s Office does not execute search warrants for late loan payments.

Because this is an ongoing criminal investigation, we can’t comment on the specifics of the case. We can say that the OIG’s office conducts about 30-35 search warrants a year on issues such as bribery, fraud, and embezzlement of federal student aid funds.

All further questions on this issue should be directed to the Department of Education’s Inspector General’s Office.

This will certainly come as a relief to Millenial deadbeats, but the notion that “bribery, fraud, and embezzlement of federal student aid funds” is all it takes to get a paramilitary squad to bang down your door at 6 a.m, handcuff you in your boxers, and throw your three pre-teen children into the back seat of a squad car, all in the service of a warrant aimed at someone who no longer lives in your home, is frankly every bit as terrifying.

I agree.

33 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:57:31am

re: #20 Obdicut

They ran with the Sherrod story, too. The MSM has lost any critical capacity.

When you run on a 24hr news cycle, the guy who waits until confirmation may find himself losing ratings to the guy who ran the initial rumors as the unvarnished truth. Sad reality is that the guy who waited for confirmation now has to try to get the jump on the fallout of the rumors, lest he find himself even further behind the 8 ball.

34 Kragar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:58:19am

re: #31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I heard Paul Revere ran and told the British the British were coming.

I expect Barton to announce that Hitler invaded Poland because Weiner posted a picture of his dick on the internet.

35 makeitstop  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 11:59:16am

re: #29 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

May the pearl-clutching ensue.

Yeah, everybody’s ‘mortified’ and ‘horrified.’

Meanwhile, Breitbart will get just what he wanted - another Democratic scalp.

Somebody try to convince me that this didn’t happen ‘accidentally on purpose.’

36 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:01:33pm

re: #35 makeitstop

Yeah, everybody’s ‘mortified’ and ‘horrified.’

Meanwhile, Breitbart will get just what he wanted - another Democratic scalp.

Somebody try to convince me that this didn’t happen ‘accidentally on purpose.’

Still stupid. Porn stars don’t operate under the seal of the confessional.

37 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:01:45pm

re: #12 Charles

More complete explanation:

But Education Department Press Secretary Justin Hamilton said in a statement to The Lookout that the department “does not execute search warrants for late loan payments.” He said the Office of the Inspector General “conducts about 30-35 search warrants a year on issues such as bribery, fraud, and embezzlement of federal student aid funds.” Hamilton said the department cannot comment on this particular case until the investigation is over, but did add that the claim the warrant was executed for late loan payment is untrue.

About 8.9 percent of all federal loan recipients (about 330,000 people) defaulted between 2008 and 2010, the highest percentage in more than a decade. Unlike students who have some types of private student loans, borrowers with federal loans can’t declare bankruptcy as a way to get out of repayment, no matter how dire their financial situation.

Still, Wright was not the subject of the agency’s investigation. He animatedly explains in the segment below that he was handcuffed while still in his underwear and was made to wait in a police car for several hours with his three young children while the 15 law enforcement officers searched his house. (Police told the station he wasn’t handcuffed.)

So, the focus of the investigation wasn’t Wright but someone in his home - and it related to the possible bribery, fraud, orembezzlement of federal student aid funds.

The Ed. Department wont comment on ongoing investigations, so we have only Wright’s claims to go by, plus the official statement from the Ed. Department as above.

38 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:03:23pm

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of hacks with no credibility…

David Barton says the Founding Fathers opposed teaching evolution (which is a tad surprising since Darwin didn’t publish Origin of Species until the middle of the next century) and that the Revolutionary war was fought to so we could break away from Britain for the purpose of ending slavery.

[Video]

Whaaa…?

We broke away from Great Britain to end slavery?

Somebody check William Wilberforce’s grave. He’s spinning again.

39 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:07:02pm

re: #37 lawhawk

More complete explanation:

So, the focus of the investigation wasn’t Wright but someone in his home - and it related to the possible bribery, fraud, orembezzlement of federal student aid funds.

The Ed. Department wont comment on ongoing investigations, so we have only Wright’s claims to go by, plus the official statement from the Ed. Department as above.

Sending a SWAT team forpossible bribery, fraud, or embezzlement of federal student aid funds is beyond crazy. I guess the guy is lucky they didn’t have any dogs in the house.

40 brennant  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:08:44pm

re: #38 celticdragon

Whaaa…?

We broke away from Great Britain to end slavery?

Somebody check William Wilberforce’s grave. He’s spinning again.

re-writing history is fun!

41 Kragar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:10:01pm

re: #38 celticdragon

Whaaa…?

We broke away from Great Britain to end slavery?

Somebody check William Wilberforce’s grave. He’s spinning again.

Great Britain - Slavery Abolition Act 1833
USA - Thirteenth Amendment 1965

Um…yeah

42 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:10:03pm

re: #40 brennant

re-writing history is fun!

It’s like Mad Libs! Fun for the whole family, and educational!
/

43 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:10:12pm

Fox News exposes the hazards of energy efficient homes….
Green Buildings Hazardous to Health? Report Cites Risks of Weatherization


To save costs and cut down on emissions, building owners typically find ways to seal off potential leaks and conserve energy. But in “weatherizing” the buildings, they also change the indoor environment.

By making buildings more airtight, building owners could increase “indoor-air contaminant concentrations and indoor-air humidity,” the report said. By adding insulation, they could trigger moisture problems. By making improvements to older homes, crews could stir up hazardous material ranging from asbestos to harmful caulking — though that problem is not unique to energy improvements.

44 Big Steve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:11:34pm

It seems to me that the digital age has eliminated the “credibility” of all news sources regarding any specific item. It used to be that if you read it in the NY times, you pretty much believed it. Now we all have to do our own due diligence because something becomes news so fast, that most of what we hear is really comment and not news. I have about six sites I check in with a couple of times a day and am able to usually triangulate what I am hearing.

45 Kragar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:11:49pm

re: #42 celticdragon

It’s like Mad Libs! Fun for the whole family, and educational!
/

In (year), (Person’s name) sailed across the (body of water) and discovered (noun).

46 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:12:40pm

re: #38 celticdragon

Whaaa…?

We broke away from Great Britain to end slavery?

They were doing it wrong. Theirs wasn’t biblical slavery, the kinder, gentler, nicer kind.

47 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:14:09pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Fox News exposes the hazards of energy efficient homes…
Green Buildings Hazardous to Health? Report Cites Risks of Weatherization

Utter hackery. That problem is endemic to all new buildings and has nothing to do with being “green”. New building products, practices and better insulation also means that you can have a moisture retention problem, even in crackerbox slap ‘em up houses built during the bubble..

48 subsailor68  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:14:10pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great Britain - Slavery Abolition Act 1833
USA - Thirteenth Amendment 1965

Um…yeah

Hi Kragar!

Good point. (Small thing, given it’s clear ya knew what ya meant, but I think your fingers typed 1965 instead of 1865. Mine do that kind of thing all the time!)

49 elizajane  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:14:52pm

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Great Britain - Slavery Abolition Act 1833
USA - Thirteenth Amendment 1965

Um…yeah

1865, unless you’re rewriting history too!

Surely we Revolutioned to get away from British Slavery in the sense that Britain was already heading toward Socialism (although also a monarchy, but that is not so bad) and in Socialism all people are slaves of the state.

50 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:15:59pm

re: #44 Big Steve

It seems to me that the digital age has eliminated the “credibility” of all news sources regarding any specific item. It used to be that if you read it in the NY times, you pretty much believed it. Now we all have to do our own due diligence because something becomes news so fast, that most of what we hear is really comment and not news. I have about six sites I check in with a couple of times a day and am able to usually triangulate what I am hearing.

I avoided the right wing rage sites that were exploding the SWAT story all over the place and tried to stay with credible players. It doesn’t always work.

51 Kragar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:16:18pm

re: #48 subsailor68

Hi Kragar!

Good point. (Small thing, given it’s clear ya knew what ya meant, but I think your fingers typed 1965 instead of 1865. Mine do that kind of thing all the time!)

Obviously, you’re suffering from some sort of vision impairment, because I obviously typed 1865, but your feeble intellect couldn’t handle it, and read it wrong.

/Sarah Palin defense activated

52 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:17:33pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In (year), (Person’s name) sailed across the (body of water) and discovered (noun).

In 2008, Sarah Palin looked across the Bering Strait and saw Russia.

:)

53 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:17:44pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

THe actual report is on the general problems AGW is going to create for us indoors, how it will change our behavior.

It is not a paper that’s in any way critical of green buildings, except to note that in new construction, and with exotic materials, there are health risks.

So of course Fox is reporting it as though it’s just critical of environmental responsibility.

The fuckers.

54 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:19:30pm

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking of hacks with no credibility…

David Barton says the Founding Fathers opposed teaching evolution (which is a tad surprising since Darwin didn’t publish Origin of Species until the middle of the next century) and that the Revolutionary war was fought to so we could break away from Britain for the purpose of ending slavery.

[Video]

Remember, this “hack” is the guy who wrote the standards for the new Texas public school textbook curriculum- including Science, History, Civics and English.
And we’re supposed to follow his teachings, at gunpoint if necessary, according to Mike Huckabee.

55 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:20:41pm

re: #49 elizajane

1865, unless you’re rewriting history too!

Surely we Revolutioned to get away from British Slavery in the sense that Britain was already heading toward Socialism (although also a monarchy, but that is not so bad) and in Socialism all people are slaves of the state.

Not correct. Great Britain dealt in economic liberalism for a number of decades (liberalism in that sense is the near opposite of what it means here in America. It was total hands off the economy and might makes right capitalism. Margaret Thatcher is sometimes referred to as a neo liberal, since she was resurrecting that policy)

Economic liberalism took a severe hit during the 1st World War when the British government had to take control of the economy and put it on a war footing. There was no allowance made for that in theory. It died altogether in the world wide depression in the 30’s.

56 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:20:53pm

re: #49 elizajane

Slavery existed in the Empire, but was abolished for practical purposes in England as early as 1772 over the Somerset Case, an English counterpart to the Dredd Dcott decision, except that it ruled in favor of the slave:

[Link: wiki.answers.com…]

57 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 12:23:14pm

re: #56 ralphieboy

Slavery existed in the Empire, but was abolished for practical purposes in England as early as 1772 over the Somerset Case, an English counterpart to the Dredd Dcott decision, except that it ruled in favor of the slave:

[Link: wiki.answers.com…]

Yes. The judge ruled memorably that English air was too pure for slavery. It was an important moment in British Common Law.

58 The Force Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 1:32:51pm

re: #38 celticdragon

Whaaa…?

We broke away from Great Britain to end slavery?

Somebody check William Wilberforce’s grave. He’s spinning again.

Historical figures spinning in their graves is the alternative energy source of the future.


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