Fact Checking Breitbart’s Statement on the Leaked Photo

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Here’s Andrew Breitbart’s statement on the photo that was leaked by radio shock jocks Opie and Anthony:

Earlier today, a photograph resembling one that I had withheld from publication in the Weinergate saga was released without my knowledge or permission.

Prior to the publication of our story on biggovernment.com and bigjournalism.com this past Monday morning, it was necessary to show the pictures I had received from our source to several news producers, including several at major news networks, to prove that the additional material I described really did exist, which some have continued to doubt.

This morning, I showed a photograph, which our source claims Weiner sent her, to radio hosts “Opie and Anthony” of the Sirius XM radio network on my mobile device. Somehow, without my knowledge or permission, apparently a picture was taken of my mobile device, and subsequently published by Opie (Gregg Hughes) on Twitter.

His co-host, Anthony (Anthony Cumia), stated today:

“In regards to the photo of Anthony Weiner that was leaked by members of The Opie And Anthony show on 6/8, I want to make it clear that Andrew Breitbart had no knowledge that this photo was being made public. A phone with the photo was being displayed and a camera in the studio caught it. It was then uploaded to twitter [sic], again, without Andrew Breitbarts [sic] knowledge.”

I regret that this occurred.

There are at least two big lies in this statement. First:

…it was necessary to show the pictures I had received from our source to several news producers, including several at major news networks, to prove that the additional material I described really did exist, which some have continued to doubt.

In fact, two nights ago, Andrew Breitbart went out drinking with Anthony and several others — and according to Anthony, showed the picture to numerous people, even leaving his laptop computer unattended with the picture on the screen for long periods of time.

One of those people was right wing flamethrower Ann Coulter. Here’s Anthony’s photo of Coulter reacting to the picture; notice that his computer is apparently there, but Breitbart is nowhere to be seen.

Last time I checked, Ann Coulter was not a “news producer.” How many other people saw the photo that night? It’s anybody’s guess, but claiming that he only showed it to “news producers” is a big fat lie.

The next lie:

This morning, I showed a photograph, which our source claims Weiner sent her, to radio hosts “Opie and Anthony” of the Sirius XM radio network on my mobile device.

Again, this is far from the whole story, because in fact Breitbart passed his phone around to the entire studio. He didn’t show it just to Opie and Anthony — he showed it to everyone in the studio, as Opie explains in this video statement:

Youtube Video

If Andrew Breitbart really did expect the photo to remain private, after showing it to just about anyone who wanted to see it, including everyone in the studio of a pair of shock jocks known for staging radical pranks, the question is, “Just how dumb is Andrew Breitbart?”

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438 comments
1 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 1:55:30pm

He spins any faster, I want that man hooked up to a generator. Should be enough power there to light up the entire East Coast.

2 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 1:55:40pm

I'm sorry, but I find it completely impossible to believe that Ann Coulter would ever be shocked, SHOCKED! to see a man's erect penis.

3 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 1:56:36pm

Sorry, Charles, but this question: “Just how dumb is Andrew Breitbart?” deserves a blog of its own and not just a single thread.

4 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 1:57:08pm

re: #2 darthstar

I'm sorry, but I find it completely impossible to believe that Ann Coulter would ever be shocked, SHOCKED! to see a man's erect penis.

It's possible. I know I couldn't contribute.

5 Merryweather  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:04:57pm

The truly pathetic thing is that I'm seeing normally sensible people like Dave Weigel buying this crap.

These people seriously need to read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".

6 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:07:06pm

Speaking of brains, this is a headline from Salon:

Ed Rollins claims the Minnesota Tea Party heroine is just as cute but twice as smart as her competition from Alaska

I have no words.

7 jaunte  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:07:16pm

Adj. 1. mortified - suffering from tissue death
gangrenous
unhealthy - not in or exhibiting good health in body or mind
[Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]

8 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:07:49pm

By the way, Charles...the facebook links make getting into a specific thread much easier now. No more scrolling back three threads to check on a comment...just a click on the facebook page.

9 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:07:54pm

On the bright side it's nice to see O&A getting some media attention again, even better if it's at Breitbart's expense. They had some difficulty transitioning from stunt based radio stuff (that lawyers won't allow anymore) to more sedate format. They've been doing great shows over the past year or so even with Sirius management shitting all over them.

10 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:08:08pm

re: #7 jaunte

Adj. 1. mortified - suffering from tissue death
gangrenous
unhealthy - not in or exhibiting good health in body or mind
[Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]

Z.zo..zzZOMBIE!!!!

11 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:09:27pm

re: #6 C1nnabar

Speaking of brains, this is a headline from Salon:

I have no words.

This is just the preamble to the "everything's great and we love each other" campaign season.

12 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:13:22pm

Perhaps Breitbart really didn't want the photos released.

This proves in addition to being a first class jerk, he really is an idiot.

He had to to know the show was beinmg video taped and he showed the photo not only to the two idiots, but t6o a roomful of people he didn't know.

So much for the 'elevation' of Andrew Breitbart.

13 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:13:24pm
Ed Rollins claims the Minnesota Tea Party heroine is just as cute but twice as smart as her competition from Alaska

So at twice as smart, she is just a moron?
//

14 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:14:13pm

“Just how dumb is Andrew Breitbart?”

My God, Charles. Could you have thrown that ball any better than belt-high for all of us? *CRACK!* Upper deck!!!
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15 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:16:22pm

re: #5 Merryweather

The truly pathetic thing is that I'm seeing normally sensible people like Dave Weigel buying this crap.

These people seriously need to read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".

Weigel's not all that sensible, when you get down to it.

16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:18:20pm

Wow, the story went from being about Weiner's Weiner to Breitbart being a Weiner in seconds flat. I think this may be a new record.

17 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:19:54pm

re: #16 Dreggas

Wow, the story went from being about Weiner's Weiner to Breitbart being a Weiner in seconds flat. I think this may be a new record.

Breitbart's a lot like Sarah Palin, even their breast sizes are similar. If the story isn't about him, it's not a story.

18 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:20:42pm

re: #16 Dreggas

Wow, the story went from being about Weiner's Weiner to Breitbart being a Weiner in seconds flat. I think this may be a new record.

Breadbasket can't even take a victory lap without fucking it up.
Lol

19 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:23:40pm

Oh man. News is now coming out the Rep. Weiner's wife is pregnant.

Ouch.

20 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:23:45pm

He passed the photo around because, in his circle of friends, it made him "cool". It's like a little boy passing around his sister's diary.

21 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:23:45pm

re: #13 rwdflynavy

Actually, my first thought was "twice zero is zero."

22 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:24:11pm

re: #21 C1nnabar

Actually, my first thought was "twice zero is zero."

Math is teh hard

23 zora  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:24:36pm

i don't for one minute believe that the photo was leaked accidentally. breitbart's slime, no doubt. i can't feel too bad that the photo was leaked. it's not like weiner wasn't willing to show it to his internet paramours or this wouldn't even be a discussion.

24 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:24:43pm

re: #19 Charles

Ouch.

"Ouch" is right! Have you seen the size of his penis?

25 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:25:30pm

re: #19 Charles

Oh man. News is now coming out the Rep. Weiner's wife is pregnant.

Ouch.

So his wife and his career are both late.

26 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:26:24pm

re: #23 zora

i don't for one minute believe that the photo was leaked accidentally. breitbart's slime, no doubt. i can't feel too bad that the photo was leaked. it's not like weiner wasn't willing to show it to his internet paramours or this wouldn't even be a discussion.

Breitbart knew what he was doing. The photo was gonna get out, one way or another. This way, he can claim "shock," but assert that his "word" was kept, that he didn't release the photo himself, others did. Not as though he's gonna get too broken up over the fallout from it.

27 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:32:41pm

Everyone's heard about the Stockton Raid by now, right?

28 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:33:43pm

re: #24 reuven

"Ouch" is right! Have you seen the size of his penis?

sock puppet?

29 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:34:07pm

re: #26 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Right. Anything but stupid on his part, plausible deniability established, penis photo leaked.

We are looking, for better or worse, at a man at the apex of his journalistic career...

30 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:34:31pm

re: #28 Capitalist Tool

scock puppet?

31 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:35:13pm

re: #30 rwdflynavy

+1

32 zora  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:36:03pm

re: #27 Capitalist Tool

no i hadn't.

from the link:

According to Wright, officers also woke his three young children, ages 3, 7, and 11, and put them in a Stockton police patrol car with him. Officers then searched his house.

"They put me in handcuffs in that hot patrol car for six hours, traumatizing my kids," Wright said.

As it turned out, the person law enforcement was looking for - Wright's estranged wife - was not there.

Wright said he later went to Stockton Mayor Ann Johnston and Stockton Police Department, but learned the city of Stockton had nothing to do with the search warrant.

33 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:36:39pm

re: #27 Capitalist Tool

Everyone's heard about the Stockton Raid by now, right?

Education Police has SWAT? WTF?! Police States suck.

34 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:37:15pm

re: #30 rwdflynavy

Iceweasel said it earlier today, too perfect!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

35 RanchTooth  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:37:33pm

Best. Tweet. Ever.

[Link: twitter.com...]

36 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:37:38pm

re: #33 boxhead

Education Police has SWAT? WTF?! Police States suck.

I wonder if they were acting on a tip from a Psychic?

37 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:39:49pm

re: #32 zora

I'd heard that it wasn't a loan default, but not what it was. I hope he AT LEAST gets that new door. Since when does a search warrant get you the right to break someone's door down without even knocking to see whether someone opens it? (That sounds facetious, I don't mean it to.)

38 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:40:21pm

re: #36 reuven

We think that hiring more policemen = better police protection. But it is not a linear equation: somewhere along the line, we hit the point of diminishing returns and wind up hiring inept people who pull stunts like this and make the decent, conscientious officers look bad.

39 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:41:42pm

The Breitbart segment is replaying now on XM 105

40 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:42:10pm

re: #33 boxhead

Education Police has SWAT? WTF?! Police States suck.

Over the years, DoEd has faced a considerable barrage of crap for being lackadaisical about collecting vast sums delinquent student loans. Can't seem to hit the sweet spot.

41 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:42:22pm

re: #37 C1nnabar

I'd heard that it wasn't a loan default, but not what it was. I hope he AT LEAST gets that new door. Since when does a search warrant get you the right to break someone's door down without even knocking to see whether someone opens it? (That sounds facetious, I don't mean it to.)

SWAT style break- the- door- down raids happen every day in this nation and quite frequently, they have the wrong house and someone dies...

A judge just ruled a week or so ago that citizens have no right to resist the police when they come calling- even when they have the wrong house.

42 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:42:35pm

Aside from the unmitigated sliminess of the "I'm just doing this to save his family" horse shit, can anyone explain to me how the "I've got these embarrassing and reputation-harming photos that I'm going to release if says anything mean about me" not considered blackmail or extortion or something along that line?

43 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:44:35pm

re: #19 Charles

Oh man. News is now coming out the Rep. Weiner's wife is pregnant.

Ouch.

Just when you think the situation couldn't get any worse.

I hope the rumor is false.

44 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:44:36pm

re: #41 Capitalist Tool

SWAT style break- the- door- down raids happen every day in this nation and quite frequently, they have the wrong house and someone dies...

A judge just ruled a week or so ago that citizens have no right to resist the police when they come calling- even when they have the wrong house.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

That says otherwise.....

45 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:46:02pm

That says otherwise...

I love it when you talk pre-9/11.

46 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:46:07pm

re: #41 Capitalist Tool

Not to sound bloodthirsty or anything, but if a few people blew away the people breaking down their doors, it might function as a deterrent even if the door-breakers were "in the right." (I wonder what a jury would do when the case was prosecuted....)

47 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:46:33pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

That says otherwise...

I love it when you talk pre-9/11.

lol.... and then, *sniff* :(

48 triple  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:47:19pm

Zero sympathy for Weiner. I got nothing against BB, either. He was right - what, are we supposed to be upset he got the scoop before the NYT? Are we to believe that just because BB broke a big story, Weiner is absoloved of all wrongdoing?

He brought this on himself, serves him right.

49 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:47:24pm

re: #27 Capitalist Tool

Everyone's heard about the Stockton Raid by now, right?

Yes. I posted a page on it earlier. Charles was kind enough to post a correction while I was out and not aware that my post was no longer valid. The story has been changing throughout the day, but it still doesn't look very good as far as I can tell.

What the hell is the Department of Education doing with a SWAT team?...why did that SWAT team execute a dynamic entry warrant on a home where the suspect no longer lived?...why was a dynamic entry warrant even served for what seems to be suspicion that the women lied on a federal loan form?...did a judge actually sign off on this?

51 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:48:13pm

re: #44 boxhead

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

That says otherwise...

The 4th Amendment has been eviscerated beyond any hope of salvage.

52 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:48:28pm

re: #5 Merryweather

The truly pathetic thing is that I'm seeing normally sensible people like Dave Weigel buying this crap.

These people seriously need to read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".

If you follow Weigel's Twitter posts, it's completely obvious that he's a troll, in the classic internet definition. I'm not sure he even has an actual point of view about anything.

53 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:48:31pm

re: #48 triple

Zero sympathy for Weiner. I got nothing against BB, either. He was right - what, are we supposed to be upset he got the scoop before the NYT? Are we to believe that just because BB broke a big story, Weiner is absoloved of all wrongdoing?

He brought this on himself, serves him right.

Are you hearng a lot of sympathy for Weiner here?

54 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:48:36pm

re: #48 triple

Reading comprehension is key.

55 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:48:51pm

re: #44 boxhead

Listening to: Hawkwind- : Master of the Universe...
"Has the world gone mad, or is it me?"

56 rwmofo  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:49:02pm

“Just how dumb is Andrew Breitbart?”

Well, as far as we know, he's not dumb enough to take the kind of pictures of himself that he doesn't want the whole world to see, then send them out to several females - hoping that maybe his wife won't find out.

The internet. It just keeps on giving, Congressman Weiner.

57 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:49:21pm

re: #48 triple

Image: sleeper.jpg

58 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:49:23pm

I don't get this. Breitbart is supposed to be indignant that this photo was not released on his TV schedule?

I would have thought he should be pissed; but mortified?

Anyway, what's the big deal as far as Breitbart goes? He would have released it eventually, or so would whoever gave it to him probably have done.

As I said before, when I raised so many small hackles, the Weiner should resign due to obviously insipient intellect. His family can deal with the sleaze part.

59 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:49:28pm

re: #51 celticdragon

The 4th Amendment has been eviscerated beyond any hope of salvage.

we are sheeple then...... I feel a sad song about to break out... :p

60 zora  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:49:47pm

re: #37 C1nnabar

i agree completely.

61 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:50:10pm

re: #56 rwmofo

You support his Acorn vids, don't ya?

62 zora  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:50:22pm

re: #37 C1nnabar

and they held him in the car for six hours. wtf.

63 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:50:49pm

re: #48 triple

Image: sleeper.jpg

64 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:51:16pm

re: #44 boxhead

We've also had 5th amendment problems today. Apparently U.S. businesses can be compelled to provide, without compensation, goods and services for the Armed Forces.

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Some soldiers were annoyed that they were charged for bags, apparently not knowing that the taxpayers, through the Defense Department, would have reimbursed them.

The Defense Department typically reimburses such costs, which the soldiers may not have known. But the soldiers will almost certainly be reimbursed by the Defense Department. But they made their displeasure known, and the public-relations damage to Delta was done.

So they made a YouTube and garnered conservative (!) outrage. And Delta was forced to publicly acquiesce and take these bags for free. And, of course, the soldiers who made this YouTube aren't apologizing for being mistaken on how to get properly funded for air travel via the correct channels.

65 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:51:18pm

re: #62 zora

I hope one of his kids peed on the seat.

66 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:51:26pm

re: #48 triple

Zero sympathy for Weiner. I got nothing against BB, either. He was right - what, are we supposed to be upset he got the scoop before the NYT? Are we to believe that just because BB broke a big story, Weiner is absoloved of all wrongdoing?

He brought this on himself, serves him right.


Why the hell are we supposed to be involved in a sex scandel where there wasn't even any sex, fer crying out loud?

This was partisan hatred latching on to faux public Puritanism for no other reason than destroying a politician who was effective on the other side.

67 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:51:27pm

I don't give a fig about breitbart... he'll ultimately pay for his transgressions.

I wouldn't even know he (and others like him) existed if Charles didn't try to help keep an eye on 'em.

68 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:52:31pm

re: #48 triple

Zero sympathy for Weiner. I got nothing against BB, either. He was right - what, are we supposed to be upset he got the scoop before the NYT? Are we to believe that just because BB broke a big story, Weiner is absoloved of all wrongdoing?

He brought this on himself, serves him right.

You're a lot like Breitbart- you have a point and you're a self serving idiot.

69 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:52:39pm

re: #2 darthstar

I'm sorry, but I find it completely impossible to believe that Ann Coulter would ever be shocked, SHOCKED! to see a man's erect penis.

I respectfully disagree. I would think that her being in the same room with some wood is pretty rare. Think about it: would she do it for you? Not me. I think she's scary.

70 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:52:56pm

re: #50 Varek Raith

Pawlenty’s Economic Plan Cuts Taxes For Millionaires By 41 Percent

Another Republican trying to balance the books on the backs of the working class, poor, and elderly. No surprises here.

71 triple  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:53:00pm

re: #53 Decatur Deb

Are you hearng a lot of sympathy for Weiner here?

Um, yes? Weiner lied to you guys for weeks, and he got a free pass. Meanwhile, LGF spent that time calling Breitbart a liar and he turned out to be telling the whole truth and nothing but.

I mean, I'm as liberal as they get, but you guys are just falling over backwards to defend a guy not worth your time because of what letter comes after his name.

72 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:54:09pm

re: #71 triple

Um, yes? Weiner lied to you guys for weeks, and he got a free pass. Meanwhile, LGF spent that time calling Breitbart a liar and he turned out to be telling the whole truth and nothing but.

I mean, I'm as liberal as they get, but you guys are just falling over backwards to defend a guy not worth your time because of what letter comes after his name.

Tell me you read the last thread.

73 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:54:13pm

re: #69 garhighway

I respectfully disagree. I would think that her being in the same room with some wood is pretty rare. Think about it: would she do it for you? Not me. I think she's scary.


She has notched more than a few on her bedpost, I have no doubt. She doesn't strike me as a prude in that way.

74 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:54:22pm

re: #71 triple

Um, yes? Weiner lied to you guys for weeks, and he got a free pass. Meanwhile, LGF spent that time calling Breitbart a liar and he turned out to be telling the whole truth and nothing but.

I mean, I'm as liberal as they get, but you guys are just falling over backwards to defend a guy not worth your time because of what letter comes after his name.

"Defense" means calling Weiner out, but still maintaining that Breitbart is a lying sack of shit? In what universe does that make a lick of sense?

75 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:54:24pm

re: #71 triple

And the next time Andrew Breitbart attacks someone, I'll be defending that person too, with no apologies.

Breitbart is a sleaze ball. But apparently the right wing is just fine with sleaze balls.

76 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:54:29pm

re: #48 triple

Zero sympathy for Weiner. I got nothing against BB, either. He was right - what, are we supposed to be upset he got the scoop before the NYT? Are we to believe that just because BB broke a big story, Weiner is absoloved of all wrongdoing?

He brought this on himself, serves him right.

your a fair piece behind the curve...Breitbart is a despicable ass

77 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:54:53pm

re: #71 triple

Nobody is defending Weiner.

Why are you pretending anyone is?

78 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:54:58pm

re: #64 reuven

We've also had 5th amendment problems today. Apparently U.S. businesses can be compelled to provide, without compensation, goods and services for the Armed Forces.

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Some soldiers were annoyed that they were charged for bags, apparently not knowing that the taxpayers, through the Defense Department, would have reimbursed them.

So they made a YouTube and garnered conservative (!) outrage. And Delta was forced to publicly acquiesce and take these bags for free. And, of course, the soldiers who made this YouTube aren't apologizing for being mistaken on how to get properly funded for air travel via the correct channels.

I do have a problem with this one. Why oh why are our Troops being charged ANYTHING when being transferred home? Why? That is complete BS. And Delta was in their Right to do so. And the Troops were in their Right to complain. The Government did not force Delta to reimburse. Public pressure did.

79 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:09pm

re: #71 triple

I don't think anyone is defending Weiner. But just because Breitbart was given a gift with this "scandal" doesn't mean he's a decent human being who deserves our sympathies...the cocksucker is carrying the dick around on his phone for chrissakes.

80 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:22pm

re: #71 triple

Brietbart has a proven history of lying.
We take what he says with a huge truckload of salt.

81 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:25pm

re: #71 triple

Um, yes? Weiner lied to you guys for weeks, and he got a free pass. Meanwhile, LGF spent that time calling Breitbart a liar and he turned out to be telling the whole truth and nothing but.

I mean, I'm as liberal as they get, but you guys are just falling over backwards to defend a guy not worth your time because of what letter comes after his name.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

82 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:38pm

re: #71 triple

Um, yes? Weiner lied to you guys for weeks, and he got a free pass. Meanwhile, LGF spent that time calling Breitbart a liar and he turned out to be telling the whole truth and nothing but.

I mean, I'm as liberal as they get, but you guys are just falling over backwards to defend a guy not worth your time because of what letter comes after his name.


Be cool guys, he says he's a liberal.
//

83 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:41pm

re: #70 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

But it's an effective campaign strategy! We've made everyone in this country believe they're millionaires (by inflating house prices), so this will win votes. (It's like the popular outrage over the "death tax" which, IMHO, is one of the fairest taxes. And it will only affect people with estates over $3.5 Million, which is a very small percentage of voters.)

84 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:43pm

re: #71 triple

others here are of same opinion about Weiner... he's a lying little _-_-_-_.
with at best, a juvenile's sexualmaturity.
i've seen people try to defend him on grounds that he is a powerful spokesman for their party, but if the party needs a liar like him to defend it...

85 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:45pm

re: #78 boxhead

I do have a problem with this one. Why oh why are our Troops being charged ANYTHING when being transferred home?

Because the government is sending them on commercial flights.

86 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:58pm

re: #81 garhighway

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

Sometimes two together.

87 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:55:59pm

re: #66 celticdragon

Why the hell are we supposed to be involved in a sex scandel where there wasn't even any sex, fer crying out loud?

This was partisan hatred latching on to faux public Puritanism for no other reason than destroying a politician who was effective on the other side.

I believe the word is sexting, not sex. And if you think that distinction is just puritanism, you probably believe that oral "sex" is not really sex, like some kids apparently do.

88 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:56:24pm

re: #81 garhighway

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.


The humor potential here is...ahem, turgid.

89 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:56:29pm

re: #71 triple

And just to be clear about it, since you seem to be under the totally mistaken impression that I'm still defending him, Anthony Weiner is also a sleaze ball.

90 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:56:41pm

re: #87 Naso Tang

As we know from you, this was actually worse than having a real affair.

Because something.

91 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:57:15pm

re: #89 Charles

guess others require you to keep adding that to each thread since they haven't kept up...

92 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:57:16pm

re: #71 triple

Um, yes? Weiner lied to you guys for weeks, and he got a free pass. Meanwhile, LGF spent that time calling Breitbart a liar and he turned out to be telling the whole truth and nothing but.

I mean, I'm as liberal as they get, but you guys are just falling over backwards to defend a guy not worth your time because of what letter comes after his name.

You think Breitbart isn't a liar? His whole 'career' is predicated on deceit!

The Weiner story does nothing to exonerate him.

As much as I find Weiner despicable, Breitbart is an even bigger worm because he doesn't care who he hurts or whose life he ruins. In fact, he revels in those broken lives.

93 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:57:29pm

re: #78 boxhead

Sorry, the Government did:

It's not unusual for returning soldiers to check weapons when flying on a commercial airline if the weapons have been certified as unloaded, said Joe Davis, a spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars' Washington office, who was critical of the fee.

"A $200 bill for extra baggage by a government-contracted airline is the worst welcome home any soldier could receive," Davis said. He acknowledged the troops would be reimbursed but said, "The shock of even being charged is enough to make most servicemen and women simply shake their heads and wonder who or what it is they are protecting."

What do they want? Money to be handed over without receipts to verify the charges? I support our armed forces as much as anyone, but we all need to be respectful of taxpayer dollars.

94 triple  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:57:37pm

re: #75 Charles

Well that's a logical disaster if I've ever seen one. You're just going to blindly defend whoever Breitbart targets next, regardless if they're actually innocent or not? How about doing some critical thinking and deciding for yourself if they're innocent.

95 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:57:52pm

back to work for some heavily taxed OT..
later gators

96 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:58:01pm

re: #75 Charles

And the next time Andrew Breitbart attacks someone, I'll be defending that person too, with no apologies.

Breitbart is a sleaze ball. But apparently the right wing is just fine with sleaze balls.

Not all of the right wing. Plenty do not.

97 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:58:04pm

re: #87 Naso Tang

I believe the word is sexting, not sex. And if you think that distinction is just puritanism, you probably believe that oral "sex" is not really sex, like some kids apparently do.


Keep flogging your strawman. Give it some leather chaps while you are at it.

This is a sex scandel where the people never even met or shared any public or private space, much less bodily fluids. Call me underwhelmed.

98 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:58:14pm

re: #52 negativ

If you follow Weigel's Twitter posts, it's completely obvious that he's a troll, in the classic internet definition. I'm not sure he even has an actual point of view about anything.

Weigel's not just a troll. Apparently he does have a viewpoint.

99 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:58:28pm

re: #94 triple

Well that's a logical disaster if I've ever seen one. You're just going to blindly defend whoever Breitbart targets next, regardless if they're actually innocent or not? How about doing some critical thinking and deciding for yourself if they're innocent.

He never said blindly...and I'd be careful with my next choice of words if I were you.

100 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:58:29pm

re: #94 triple

Brietbart is a proven liar.
Why do you ignore this?
Do you support his Acorn vids?

101 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:58:41pm

re: #85 Obdicut

Because the government is sending them on commercial flights.

Still, the Government and Delta could have agreed to take care of this all at once rather than charge each serviceman/woman individually, thus requiring each service member to file for reimbursement individually. Nice way to maximize work efficiency.

102 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:59:09pm

re: #93 reuven

Sorry, the Government did:

What do they want? Money to be handed over without receipts to verify the charges? I support our armed forces as much as anyone, but we all need to be respectful of taxpayer dollars.

The GIs travel orders said they were authorized 4 bags. Delta didn't get the message and screwed themselves with idiot PR.

103 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:59:45pm

re: #101 boxhead

Sure. It sounds like a fuckup. But if we want to avoid these kinds of fuckups, the onus is on the government, not Delta.

104 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:59:45pm

re: #94 triple

Well that's a logical disaster if I've ever seen one. You're just going to blindly defend whoever Breitbart targets next, regardless if they're actually innocent or not? How about doing some critical thinking and deciding for yourself if they're innocent.

So you're in the habit of taking a habitual liar at his word because he might be right this time around, instead of just selling another manufactured "scandal"?

105 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 2:59:50pm

re: #94 triple

And how about you not trust everything Breitbart release as the gospel truth?
Double edged sword is double edged.

106 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:00:12pm

re: #94 triple

Well that's a logical disaster if I've ever seen one. You're just going to blindly defend whoever Breitbart targets next, regardless if they're actually innocent or not? How about doing some critical thinking and deciding for yourself if they're innocent.

hahaha!...good one...especially the thinking part

107 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:00:22pm

re: #94 triple

The "logical disaster" is your silly claim that anyone is defending Weiner, now that he's admitted everything.

And yes, my default position is absolutely that Andrew Breitbart's "scoops" should NOT be trusted. Period. Only an idiot would trust Breitbart after what he's done to so many people.

108 triple  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:00:26pm

re: #100 Varek Raith

It's pretty simple, my opinions have nothing to do with Breitbart at all. I saw Weiner being super-cagey in his interviews, very defensive, and I assumed he was lying. I didn't need Breitbart to tell me that a person who can't answer a yes or no question isn't being truthful, and neither should you.

109 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:00:34pm

re: #103 Obdicut

Sure. It sounds like a fuckup. But if we want to avoid these kinds of fuckups, the onus is on the government, not Delta.

Agreed, but Delta should have know this shit storm was going to happen.

110 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:01:14pm

re: #108 triple

Do you support his Acorn vids?

111 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:01:59pm

re: #108 triple

It's pretty simple, my opinions have nothing to do with Breitbart at all.

Stupid on your part, at least for all potential future occurances.

112 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:02:26pm

re: #43 researchok

Just when you think the situation couldn't get any worse.

That's the second time I've seen someone say that (the first was on Facebook).

I'm not understanding how his wife being pregnant makes the situation worse.

113 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:02:31pm

re: #108 triple

It's called "benefit of doubt." You see, this whole thing started with a creepy dude who was stalking Wiener over the internet. He then sent the pics to Breitbart.
Kind of difficult to trust this kind of source, no?

114 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:02:36pm

re: #109 boxhead

Agreed, but Delta should have know this shit storm was going to happen.

Oh, agreed. They should have eaten it to save them PR. But unless there's an actual policy of screwing over troops, this is just an unfortunate incident.

115 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:02:49pm

re: #90 Obdicut

As we know from you, this was actually worse than having a real affair.

Because something.

You need a lot of clarifications to understand what I say, it seems.

The real affair is actually pretty common in our society, unfortunately, but it takes many forms under many circumstances and without any references to possible cover up parts, the basic act comes down to a matter between spouses.

The Weiner affair showed true intellectual failure in a public official, real sex (as you make the distinction) or not.

Is that position so hard for you to understand?

116 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:03:25pm

re: #108 triple

It's pretty simple, my opinions have nothing to do with Breitbart at all. I saw Weiner being super-cagey in his interviews, very defensive, and I assumed he was lying. I didn't need Breitbart to tell me that a person who can't answer a yes or no question isn't being truthful, and neither should you.

And let me guess, you also believed that ACORN was really helping pimps to skirt the law and Shirley Sherrod really was a racist?

117 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:03:44pm

All this side thread aside, Breitbart disgusts me beyond description. Vile baboon is a slight against vile baboons. His image makes me wretch, truly.

(worried about the choice of words in the last sentence) :)

118 triple  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:03:51pm

re: #113 Varek Raith

Yes, and if that's all it was, I'd agree with you. But you'd have to be a fool to think he was being truthful after that press conference where he couldn't answer a simple question. There's also the (telling) fact he didn't want to go to the FBI to investigate this - he'd be facing federal charges at this point.

119 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:04:15pm

re: #115 Naso Tang

Is that position so hard for you to understand?

Well, it's different from your original position, but still very weird.

You were saying that this was worse than Weiner having a real affair, or showed poorer judgement.

Remember?

120 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:04:34pm

re: #97 celticdragon

Keep flogging your strawman. Give it some leather chaps while you are at it.

This is a sex scandel where the people never even met or shared any public or private space, much less bodily fluids. Call me underwhelmed.

I'll call you willing to accept any level of stupidity in a public official (presumably of your party) as long as it doesn't involve bodily fluids.

121 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:04:37pm

re: #108 triple

It's pretty simple, my opinions have nothing to do with Breitbart at all. I saw Weiner being super-cagey in his interviews, very defensive, and I assumed he was lying. I didn't need Breitbart to tell me that a person who can't answer a yes or no question isn't being truthful, and neither should you.

a correct assumption is still an assumption...why don't you allow others the same?....most assumed AB was lying because that's what he does...Weiner had no track record at yet you disbelieved him....you are already annoying with your scolding

122 Neutral President  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:04:39pm

re: #93 reuven

Sorry, the Government did:

What do they want? Money to be handed over without receipts to verify the charges? I support our armed forces as much as anyone, but we all need to be respectful of taxpayer dollars.

They never asked for any such thing. Now, they may have been mistaken, but they were under the impression that the DoD contract with Delta Airlines covered 4 bags. Operating on that assumption, their outrage is completely understanding. They don't exactly make a lot of money so getting hit with an unexpected $200+ bill on day one probably put a big damper on their plans with friends and family. It takes awhile for those reimbursement checks to get issued.

123 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:05:12pm

And just in case anybody claims otherwise:

Weiner did something slimy and I do consider it a form of cheating in his marriage, at least emotionally.

I do not consider it a matter for public consumption. It is insanity to expect moral purity from our public servants when we as a society cannot expect it of ourselves.

124 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:05:20pm

re: #118 triple

There's lots of reasons people get cagey when answering questions. Treating it as an automatic tell is pretty damn foolish too.

125 boxhead  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:05:35pm

hmmm, just watched a show on Shrimp Po' Boys. Gotta go get one....

126 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:05:38pm

re: #119 Obdicut

Well, it's different from your original position, but still very weird.

You were saying that this was worse than Weiner having a real affair, or showed poorer judgement.

Remember?

I did say that, but your pedantic logic can't accept any nuances.

127 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:05:55pm

re: #123 celticdragon

And lying about it was stupid and shitty of him on many, many levels.

128 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:06:16pm

re: #126 Naso Tang

I did say that, but your pedantic logic can't accept any nuances.

That's nice.

129 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:06:18pm

re: #127 Obdicut

And lying about it was stupid and shitty of him on many, many levels.

STOP DEFENDING WIENER!
Wait.
/

130 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:06:26pm

re: #120 Naso Tang

I'll call you willing to accept any level of stupidity in a public official (presumably of your party) as long as it doesn't involve bodily fluids.

You really need to go back to school and work on your critical thinking skills.

131 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:07:01pm

re: #127 Obdicut

And lying about it was stupid and shitty of him on many, many levels.


Yes.

132 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:07:02pm

re: #123 celticdragon

And just in case anybody claims otherwise:

Weiner did something slimy and I do consider it a form of cheating in his marriage, at least emotionally.

I'm sure y'all remember the famous Jimmy Carter Playboy interview. He'd agree with you:


Because I'm just human and I'm tempted and Christ set some almost impossible standards for us. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Christ said, I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery. I've looked on a lot of women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times.... This is something that God recognizes, that I will do and have done, and God forgives me for it. But that doesn't mean that I condemn someone who not only looks on a woman with lust but who leaves his wife and shacks up with somebody out of wedlock. Christ says, don't consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a whole bunch of women while the other guy is loyal to his wife. The guy who's loyal to his wife ought not to be condescending or proud because of the relative degree of sinfulness.

133 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:07:11pm

re: #120 Naso Tang

Now who's the one not seeing nuances?

134 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:07:22pm

re: #117 boxhead

All this side thread aside, Breitbart disgusts me beyond description. Vile baboon is a slight against vile baboons. His image makes me wretch, truly.

(worried about the choice of words in the last sentence) :)

Just leave off the "w".

retch


American Heritage Dictionary:
retch
(rĕch) pronunciation

v., retched, retch·ing, retch·es.

v.intr.
To try to vomit.

v.tr.
To vomit.


135 triple  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:07:44pm

re: #124 Obdicut

And yet, here we are..

136 engineer cat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:07:47pm

oh what strenuous dirt heaping on teh weiner!

i suppose i'm impressed or something

137 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:08:14pm

re: #130 celticdragon

You really need to go back to school and work on your critical thinking skills.

I know enough about critical thinking to understand a response that doesn't address the point made.

138 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:08:16pm

re: #135 triple

And yet, here we are..

Hindsight.
Nice fallacy you got going.

139 Charleston Chew  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:08:30pm

When I was in high school I couldn't wait to graduate and leave behind all the childishness and get out into the real world. I imagined that the obnoxious denizens of high school would somehow magically "grow up" when they become adults. Now I know better. Children don't grow up; they just get older and uglier.

And there's no leaving high school.

140 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:08:38pm

re: #108 triple

It's pretty simple, my opinions have nothing to do with Breitbart at all. I saw Weiner being super-cagey in his interviews, very defensive, and I assumed he was lying. I didn't need Breitbart to tell me that a person who can't answer a yes or no question isn't being truthful, and neither should you.

You are one self righteously smug narcissist. You and Breitbart have a lot in common. That and you both idiots.

Tell me, did you defend Sarah Palin's revised version of Paul Revere, et al?

141 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:08:42pm

re: #135 triple

And yet, here we are..

And here we were a week ago:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

142 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:09:08pm

re: #128 Obdicut

That's nice.

No problem.

143 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:09:26pm

re: #135 triple

And yet, here we are..

yeah, you're here well after the fact to show us how bright you are
LOL...guys like you are a nickle a piece

144 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:09:47pm

If I were Weiner, I would have come clean right off the bat.

"Hell yeah that's a picture of me. Look at that thing. I'm packing heat, baby"!

145 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:10:03pm

re: #137 Naso Tang

I know enough about critical thinking to understand a response that doesn't address the point made.


You made no point. You made a snide and unsubstantiated allegation. I responded as you deserve.

146 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:10:28pm

re: #135 triple

And yet, here we are..

Yes, here we are, witnessing the fallout of the first scandal where Breitbart didn't manufacture the evidence. Congratulations on having your assumption proven right. Continue ragging on the rest of us for running with a different assumption and being proven wrong.

147 freetoken  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:10:50pm

re: #123 celticdragon

I do not consider it a matter for public consumption. It is insanity to expect moral purity from our public servants when we as a society cannot expect it of ourselves.

Ah, but that is why there is a market for prurient stories such as this one. Breitbart and the rest know there is a market for this stuff so that is what they sell.

148 triple  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:11:18pm

re: #140 researchok

I know it's automatic to try and assume I'm some sort of right-wing idiot, but you can check my username over at hotair and see I don't agree with them, either :) They just assume im some left-wing idiot. Sigh, interweb politics..

149 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:11:27pm

re: #118 triple

Yes, and if that's all it was, I'd agree with you. But you'd have to be a fool to think he was being truthful after that press conference where he couldn't answer a simple question. There's also the (telling) fact he didn't want to go to the FBI to investigate this - he'd be facing federal charges at this point.

Lets assume lots of people thought Weiner might be covering something up (I certainly was).

How on earth can you give Breitbart enough credibility so as to believe him?

150 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:11:48pm

re: #139 Charleston Chew

When I was in high school I couldn't wait to graduate and leave behind all the childishness and get out into the real world. I imagined that the obnoxious denizens of high school would somehow magically "grow up" when they become adults. Now I know better. Children don't grow up; they just get older and uglier.

And there's no leaving high school.

To quote Bowling for Soup, "High school never ends."

151 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:11:48pm

re: #148 triple

We got a clairvoyant in dah house!

152 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:11:58pm

re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth

If I were Weiner, I would have come clean right off the bat.

"Hell yeah that's a picture of me. Look at that thing. I'm packing heat, baby"!

Maybe that's what Jon Stewart was trying to prompt him to do. Goad him, even.

153 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:12:09pm

re: #135 triple

And yet, here we are..

Yes. Obviously from this one time, we can extrapolate to all times.

Wheareas that Breitbart has consistently lied doesn't mean we should doubt him.

I think you're holding the book upside down.

154 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:12:17pm

re: #148 triple

I know it's automatic to try and assume I'm some sort of right-wing idiot, but you can check my username over at hotair and see I don't agree with them, either :) They just assume im some left-wing idiot. Sigh, interweb politics..

So you troll over there too?

155 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:12:25pm

re: #148 triple

I know it's automatic to try and assume I'm some sort of right-wing idiot, but you can check my username over at hotair and see I don't agree with them, either :) They just assume im some left-wing idiot. Sigh, interweb politics..

Yeah, and compared to Ron Paul, Tom Pawlenty is a moderate. Not really impressing us here.

156 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:13:40pm

re: #148 triple

I know it's automatic to try and assume I'm some sort of right-wing idiot, but you can check my username over at hotair and see I don't agree with them, either :) They just assume im some left-wing idiot. Sigh, interweb politics..

I really don't think anyone gives a fuck about your other accounts...only proves your a pompous ass elsewhere

157 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:13:44pm

re: #148 triple

I know it's automatic to try and assume I'm some sort of right-wing idiot, but you can check my username over at hotair and see I don't agree with them, either :) They just assume im some left-wing idiot. Sigh, interweb politics..

I'm right of center as well.

That has nothing to do with Breitbart's agenda of deceit.

As a righty, I can say I'd rather not have his 'help' or have him speak for me.

158 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:13:54pm

re: #148 triple

Since you are being "cagey" on answering whether you support his Acorn vids, I'm going to use your "logic" and just assume you do.
;)

159 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:14:37pm

re: #147 freetoken

Ah, but that is why there is a market for prurient stories such as this one. Breitbart and the rest know there is a market for this stuff so that is what they sell.


Yep. It is an example of schadenfreude, where you can take vicarious pleasure from damage to another and even more so if that other is a political figure you hate. There is nothing consequential to his job performance here (unlike some of the alleged trysts Bill Clinton enjoyed where he was said to be away from his Secret Service protection and away from the nuke code football).

It is nothing more then hypocritical claims to our innate sense of morality being made by people with no morals at all.

160 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:14:39pm

re: #133 Varek Raith

Now who's the one not seeing nuances?

I suppose I missed one from you. Care to clarify?

161 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:14:47pm

re: #155 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, and compared to Ron Paul, Tom Pawlenty is a moderate. Not really impressing us here.

Tom might be a moderate. His brother Tim is a different story.

162 freetoken  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:14:47pm

I think Weiner shows all the characteristics of being part of his society and our age. He is simply no "better" than many people. His wife has a good reason to be thoroughly angered with him, but I expect many of those who are trying to crow over his foolishness are guilty of the same or worse types of impropriety.

163 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:15:36pm

re: #162 freetoken

I think Weiner shows all the characteristics of being part of his society and our age. He is simply no "better" than many people. His wife has a good reason to be thoroughly angered with him, but I expect many of those who are trying to crow over his foolishness are guilty of the same or worse types of impropriety.

Stones, glass houses...

164 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:15:54pm

re: #161 garhighway

Tom might be a moderate. His brother Tim is a different story.

I'm gonna get "PIMF" tattooed into my frakin' forehead.

Or maybe "This Space For Rent," haven't decided yet.

165 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:15:58pm

Hey Wrench, cat got your tongue?

166 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:16:04pm

re: #163 researchok

Stones, glass houses...

Howitzers and glass houses are more fun.

167 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:16:17pm

re: #162 freetoken

I think Weiner shows all the characteristics of being part of his society and our age. He is simply no "better" than many people. His wife has a good reason to be thoroughly angered with him, but I expect many of those who are trying to crow over his foolishness are guilty of the same or worse types of impropriety.


Exactly.

168 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:16:26pm

re: #123 celticdragon

And just in case anybody claims otherwise:

Weiner did something slimy and I do consider it a form of cheating in his marriage, at least emotionally.

I do not consider it a matter for public consumption. It is insanity to expect moral purity from our public servants when we as a society cannot expect it of ourselves.

It's not so much the moral purity angle that bothers me as much as the mindblowing fact that people such as Vitter and Weiner and Gingrich and Gore and Edwards and countless others in the public eye show such a mind-blowing lack of judgment, given that they KNOW they're constantly under the watch of thousands of sleazebags just waiting to be the one who busts the story of their infidelity open.

169 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:16:27pm

re: #162 freetoken

I think Weiner shows all the characteristics of being part of his society and our age. He is simply no "better" than many people. His wife has a good reason to be thoroughly angered with him, but I expect many of those who are trying to crow over his foolishness are guilty of the same or worse types of impropriety.

Uh--no.

170 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:16:48pm

re: #162 freetoken

I think Weiner shows all the characteristics of being part of his society and our age. He is simply no "better" than many people. His wife has a good reason to be thoroughly angered with him, but I expect many of those who are trying to crow over his foolishness are guilty of the same or worse types of impropriety.

It's also part of our society for blatant hypocrisy to be the norm. Newt Gingrich feels no shame about going after Clinton for infidelity while he was being unfaithful himself. And he gets forgiven for both his infidelity and the hypocrisy by many.

171 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:17:04pm

re: #165 Naso Tang

Hey Wrench, cat got your tongue?

Nope.

172 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:17:29pm

re: #169 Decatur Deb

Uh--no.

Present company excepted.

173 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:17:46pm

re: #170 Obdicut

It's also part of our society for blatant hypocrisy to be the norm. Newt Gingrich feels no shame about going after Clinton for infidelity while he was being unfaithful himself. And he gets forgiven for both his infidelity and the hypocrisy by many.

it's just business, nothing personal....honesty is not the object of politics

174 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:17:47pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

Nope.

Just that left paw.
//

175 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:18:10pm

Image: funny-pictures-cat-tongue.jpg

176 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:19:43pm

The man just said that this train I'm on is going 110 mph. It ain't Europe, but that is still pretty cool.

177 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:20:04pm

There was a short news blurb on the local Fox radio affiliate a day or so ago, with some soundbites from 'people on the street'.

One lady admonished Weiner's behavior with something like "He shouldn't be doing that sort of thing if he's supposed to be a role model for all of us to follow".

I just about spit. He's not a freaking role model, he's a freaking employee.

178 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:20:27pm

re: #168 SidewaysQuark

It's not so much the moral purity angle that bothers me as much as the mindblowing fact that people such as Vitter and Weiner and Gingrich and Gore and Edwards and countless others in the public eye show such a mind-blowing lack of judgment, given that they KNOW they're constantly under the watch of thousands of sleazebags just waiting to be the one who busts the story of their infidelity open.

Powerful men feel they have powerful male privilege.

Also, water is an oxide of hydrogen, falling off a wall can hurt you, and lions tend to be predators.

179 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:22:06pm

re: #145 celticdragon

You made no point. You made a snide and unsubstantiated allegation. I responded as you deserve.

I did make a point. I am amazed that you can't see it. Let me rephrase for your benefit.

I think morals are important, but the very first thing that should exclude anyone from senior public service is stupidity. You don't seem to give any weight to the stupidity part and only judge (underwhelmed I believe you said) the degree to which you think an act qualifies as "sex".

Do you not care if someone with influence to affect your life seems to have no grasp of potential consequences?

180 Chrysicat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:22:50pm

re: #148 triple

I know it's automatic to try and assume I'm some sort of right-wing idiot, but you can check my username over at hotair and see I don't agree with them, either :) They just assume im some left-wing idiot. Sigh, interweb politics..

See that? That right there? That's why we think you're some sort of right-wing idiot...that you have a user name at hotair in the first place and it hasn't been baninated yet is a pretty good hint!

181 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:23:41pm

re: #180 Chrysicat

They keep pet liberals to bash around now and again.

182 freetoken  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:23:54pm

re: #170 Obdicut

It's also part of our society for blatant hypocrisy to be the norm. Newt Gingrich feels no shame about going after Clinton for infidelity while he was being unfaithful himself.

Agree. When I wrote "society" I meant that high level, powerful set to Weiner belongs, which frankly wish to run like the older European aristocratic set but find themselves in the Puritanical/Victorian American web of social neuroses.

And some criticize the Japanese and Kabuki theatre.

Well, American politics is all about faux outrage over faux morality.

183 Targetpractice  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:24:53pm

So, did "triple" get cold feet? Get tired of getting cracked across the head with the clue by four?

184 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:26:09pm

re: #183 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

So, did "triple" get cold feet? Get tired of getting cracked across the head with the clue by four?

Just taking a breather.

Image: funny-picture-cat-fail.jpg

185 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:26:30pm

re: #179 Naso Tang

I did make a point. I am amazed that you can't see it. Let me rephrase for your benefit.

I think morals are important, but the very first thing that should exclude anyone from senior public service is stupidity. You don't seem to give any weight to the stupidity part and only judge (underwhelmed I believe you said) the degree to which you think an act qualifies as "sex".

Do you not care if someone with influence to affect your life seems to have no grasp of potential consequences?

Does it matter to your analysis whether the stupid act is destructive only to the actor (as opposed to his constituents and fellow citizens)?

186 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:30:10pm

re: #179 Naso Tang

I did make a point. I am amazed that you can't see it. Let me rephrase for your benefit.

I think morals are important, but the very first thing that should exclude anyone from senior public service is stupidity. You don't seem to give any weight to the stupidity part and only judge (underwhelmed I believe you said) the degree to which you think an act qualifies as "sex".

Do you not care if someone with influence to affect your life seems to have no grasp of potential consequences?

I care.

But the thing with politicians and sex scandals - it's been going on forever, and having known and worked with several politicians over the years, it's my opinion that it has to do with the massive ego required to be in politics in the first place, more than anything else. Some expect all sorts of favors in other ways; for others, it's their sex appeal.

Late 1940's-early 1950's - Earl Long and stripper Blaze Starr

1960's - JFK and Marilyn Monroe

1970's - Wilbur Mills and Fanny Fox

1990's - Bill Clinton and Monica

2000's - David Vitter, Anthony Weiner, John Edwards and any number of others, too numerous to list - they just can't hide it the way they used to.

187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:30:22pm

OT: Launch of new Atheist Alliance International

The otters are not pleased.

188 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:30:23pm

re: #179 Naso Tang

It's not in any way a given that having an affair is less stupid than doing online wang pictures. That's an assumption you're making.

That some people manage to cover up their affairs doesn't mean that that's something you can depend on. Many women who've had affairs with men have blackmailed them, revealed it at inopportune times, and necessitated a constant coverup. And since affairs are more momentous things, the public treats them more momentously.

Somehow, the only criteria you're using for 'stupid' is the likelihood of getting caught.

Why?

189 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:30:40pm

re: #185 garhighway

Does it matter to your analysis whether the stupid act is destructive only to the actor (as opposed to his constituents and fellow citizens)?

Are you seriously suggesting that someone who gets sucked into something as juvenile and self destructive as this is someone you want shaping policy for the country?

190 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:31:14pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

When I was in New York recently meeting with state senators and the like, the biggest thing I got from them was how amazingly self-centered they were. Even when they were people who'd achieved things I was impressed by, I never seemed to be quite as impressed as they were by themselves.

191 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:31:27pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

I care.

But the thing with politicians and sex scandals - it's been going on forever, and having known and worked with several politicians over the years, it's my opinion that it has to do with the massive ego required to be in politics in the first place, more than anything else. Some expect all sorts of favors in other ways; for others, it's their sex appeal.

Late 1940's-early 1950's - Earl Long and stripper Blaze Starr

1960's - JFK and Marilyn Monroe

1970's - Wilbur Mills and Fanny Fox

1990's - Bill Clinton and Monica

2000's - David Vitter, Anthony Weiner, John Edwards and any number of others, too numerous to list - they just can't hide it the way they used to.

In other words, I don't particularly like it - but I'm amazed we're ever surprised by it.

192 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:32:04pm

re: #189 Naso Tang

Are you seriously suggesting that someone who gets sucked into something as juvenile and self destructive as this is someone you want shaping policy for the country?

If you don't want to answer my question, just say so.

193 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:32:14pm

It just occurred to me- as a self employed person,I will never be a 'former disgruntled employee'.

I'm doomed to a dull future.

194 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:32:23pm

re: #190 Obdicut

When I was in New York recently meeting with state senators and the like, the biggest thing I got from them was how amazingly self-centered they were. Even when they were people who'd achieved things I was impressed by, I never seemed to be quite as impressed as they were by themselves.

Exactly right.
They THRIVE on that.
And honestly, it takes that sort of ego and self-centeredness to be a politician. I couldn't do it, wouldn't want to do that job.

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:32:29pm

re: #186 reine.de.tout

Can't forget Spitzer.

196 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:32:48pm

re: #193 researchok

It just occurred to me- as a self employed person,I will never be a 'former disgruntled employee'.

I'm doomed to a dull future.

But you can be a gruntled current self-employee.

197 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:33:22pm

re: #190 Obdicut

When I was in New York recently meeting with state senators and the like, the biggest thing I got from them was how amazingly self-centered they were. Even when they were people who'd achieved things I was impressed by, I never seemed to be quite as impressed as they were by themselves.

Being a narcissist is pretty much a requirement to be in big-time politics.

198 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:33:50pm

re: #194 reine.de.tout

Exactly right.
They THRIVE on that.
And honestly, it takes that sort of ego and self-centeredness to be a politician. I couldn't do it, wouldn't want to do that job.

Well, I'd vote you anyway.

199 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:34:03pm

re: #193 researchok

It just occurred to me- as a self employed person,I will never be a 'former disgruntled employee'.

I'm doomed to a dull future.

Fire yourself.
Then, rehire yourself.

200 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:34:37pm

re: #196 reine.de.tout

But you can be a gruntled current self-employee.

Doesn't have the same ring.

201 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:34:40pm

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

Can't forget Spitzer.

The Governor of - what was it, NC? In Argentina when his staff said he was out "hiking"?

The list is very very long. Before the days of instant communications like we have now, they could hide it. WE hear about it more often now, IMO, because they can't hide it like they used to be able to.

202 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:35:07pm

re: #198 researchok

Well, I'd vote you anyway.

aw.
I ain't runnin'.
But - YOU run, and I'll work for you!

203 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:35:13pm

re: #176 garhighway

The man just said that this train I'm on is going 110 mph. It ain't Europe, but that is still pretty cool.

The fastest train I've been on wasn't Europe, it was China:

[Link: www.smtdc.com...]

Slightly faster than the Japanese Shinkansen at ~265 MPH. But the Shinkansen are more useful. The Chinese Maglev is a short route, built for the Expo.

204 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:35:22pm

re: #197 garhighway

Being a narcissist is pretty much a requirement to be in big-time politics.

There's a minimum requirement of "I"s per speech, I believe.

205 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:35:57pm

re: #204 Slumbering Behemoth

There's a minimum requirement of "I"s per speech, I believe.

I think it's a percentage thing.

206 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:36:13pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Fire yourself.
Then, rehire yourself.

Hmmmm...and go through a year or two of unemployment, with anger growing, go to gun shows, join Code Pink and the Tea Party (so I'd have a meeting top attend every day)....

Hmmm

207 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:36:17pm

re: #188 Obdicut


Somehow, the only criteria you're using for 'stupid' is the likelihood of getting caught.

Why?

No, you still don't get it. Like most of us here I was his supporter initially, and I make it clear I share everyone's opinion about Breitbart. He got this information because he is the king of sleaze for the moment.

However I am angry because of the deceit, but more so because it shows a serious character flaw greater, if you want, than the possibility of a fling on some junket.

Having said that, I believe anyone who enters politics needs to think long and hard (pun intended) about their willingness to keep their libido in control.

208 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:36:28pm

re: #191 reine.de.tout

In other words, I don't particularly like it - but I'm amazed we're ever surprised by it.

It's just much easier to catch them and publicize it. Weiner might as well have hung his wiener out his office window.

209 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:37:03pm

re: #196 reine.de.tout

But you can be a gruntled current self-employee.

A lot of people (including myself) are legal employees of their own corporation. So I can be a disgruntled ex-employee of a company that I own.

210 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:37:17pm

re: #202 reine.de.tout

aw.
I ain't runnin'.
But - YOU run, and I'll work for you!

My first piece of proposed legislation will to ban cell phones with cameras for legislators.

Can you live with that?

211 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:38:08pm

re: #207 Naso Tang


However I am angry because of the deceit, but more so because it shows a serious character flaw greater, if you want, than the possibility of a fling on some junket.

Yeah. I get that you think that. I'm asking you why. You're giving a lot of non-answers. And you've changed from your original comparison to an affair to a fling on some junket.

A fling on a junket could result in an STD or a pregnancy. This couldn't. Does that factor at all into your calculation of 'stupidity'?

212 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:38:14pm

re: #201 reine.de.tout

Nah, Spitzer was the Gov. of NYC that was cracking down on illegal brothels while patronizing same. Plus, he was anti-video game, which makes him my natural enemy.

213 compound idaho  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:38:32pm

re: #193 researchok

It just occurred to me- as a self employed person,I will never be a 'former disgruntled employee'.

I'm doomed to a dull future.

As a self employed person it was pointed out to me that if you work for yourself, you are sure to work for a jerk.

214 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:38:39pm

re: #210 researchok

My first piece of proposed legislation will to ban cell phones with cameras for legislators.

Can you live with that?

hahahaha!
Oh, yes, indeed.

215 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:39:22pm

re: #179 Naso Tang


I did make a point. I am amazed that you can't see it. Let me rephrase for your benefit.

It was phrased in such a way as to not be worth responding too. I saw what you meant, and that you were being a prick about it. It did not deserve an answer. It still doesn't.

I think morals are important, but the very first thing that should exclude anyone from senior public service is stupidity.

What a fine and upstanding sentiment! Of course, that means that Alexander Hamilton, FDR, Thomas Jefferson, JFK, possibly Abe Lincoln and a whole of other folks would be dissmissed by your conflation of stupidity(actually, incompetance on the job) with moral failure. I do not conflate incompetence with failure of private moral virtue.

You don't seem to give any weight to the stupidity part and only judge (underwhelmed I believe you said) the degree to which you think an act qualifies as "sex".

By all accounts, the congressman is actually quite intelligent. So is former Governor Arnold etc etc...

What they have in common is an unspoken and unacknowleded assumption of male sexual perogative. Our society is schizophrenic in this regard. Male sexual conquests are celebrated in print and on tv and in movies(guys who score are to be emulated. Women who score are sluts and whores). We act shocked shocked when guys do it real life. Our society has conditioned men to act like boorish rakes for decades. My only wonder is that we are suprised by it any more.

Do you not care if someone with influence to affect your life seems to have no grasp of potential consequences?

Amazingly, I have the ability to distinguish private behavior apart from his job competency. Had this been something that actually went into the range of despicable, (think John Edwards and wife with cancer), then I allow that character questions would override that, but sexting does not even begin to rise to that level in my judgement.

Now, please sod off and bother somebody else.

216 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:39:58pm

re: #213 compound idaho

As a self employed person it was pointed out to me that if you work for yourself, you are sure to work for a jerk.

It's like lawyers who defend themselves.

217 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:39:59pm

re: #192 garhighway

If you don't want to answer my question, just say so.

I think it can be argued that in this case it is both. Just the simple fact of making a Breitbart the darling of the right overnight is damaging enough to others, but as far as damaging to himself goes, I don't care although I feel sorry for his family.

218 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:40:08pm

re: #214 reine.de.tout

hahahaha!
Oh, yes, indeed.

You are now Chief of Staff.

219 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:40:49pm

beating a dead horse?

220 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:41:01pm

re: #218 researchok

You are now Chief of Staff.

Hmmm, I don't recall appointing you as Planetary Governor of this backwater planet...

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:42:34pm

re: #219 albusteve

beating a dead horse?

There's a gif for that.

222 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:43:03pm

re: #218 researchok

You are now Chief of Staff.

YAY!
waitaminute . . .
Chief of whose staff, exactly?
did I really just write that?

223 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:43:15pm

re: #220 Varek Raith

Hmmm, I don't recall appointing you as Planetary Governor of this backwater planet...

Yours was the only nay vote.

Which reminds me, you are now in charge of the sewage works.
//

224 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:43:30pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

There's a gif for that.

it's like fingers on a chalkboard

225 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:44:11pm

re: #222 reine.de.tout

YAY!
waitaminute . . .
Chief of whose staff, exactly?
did I really just write that?

As a gentleman, I will not respond.

And yes, you just wrote that.

226 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:44:13pm

re: #222 reine.de.tout

Yes, indeed you did. Welcome to the Dark Side, Reine. Allow me to fetch you your official membership card.

227 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:44:53pm

re: #223 researchok

Yours was the only nay vote.

Which reminds me, you are now in charge of the sewage works.
//

Hold still.
Image: PlanetaryBombardment-SWGTCG.jpg

228 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:44:59pm

re: #225 researchok

As a gentleman, I will not respond.

And yes, you just wrote that.

So, what did you respond as?

229 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:45:15pm

re: #227 Varek Raith

Hold still.
Image: PlanetaryBombardment-SWGTCG.jpg

LOLOL

230 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:45:31pm

re: #211 Obdicut

Yeah. I get that you think that. I'm asking you why. You're giving a lot of non-answers. And you've changed from your original comparison to an affair to a fling on some junket.

A fling on a junket could result in an STD or a pregnancy. This couldn't. Does that factor at all into your calculation of 'stupidity'?

Wow, you are the king of tangents. Yes, that is actually what I said, but I am saying that this one shows a form of stupidity that was so obviously self destructive that it could not be attributed, as might be the case, to a momentary unplanned lack of self control.

Contrary to the prudes who need physical intercourse for something to be sexually bad, I consider these planned and deliberate acts to show an even worse mindset for someone in his position.

231 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:46:21pm

re: #228 wrenchwench

So, what did you respond as?

I cannot recall, Honorable Chairperson.

(I'm practicing)

232 ReneeJoy  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:46:36pm

How do we know that that's weiner's weiner in the photo?

233 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:46:48pm

re: #217 Naso Tang

I think it can be argued that in this case it is both. Just the simple fact of making a Breitbart the darling of the right overnight is damaging enough to others, but as far as damaging to himself goes, I don't care although I feel sorry for his family.

Two thoughts:

Firsts, starting a sentence with "I think it can be argued that..." is a tell. It means that everything that comes after the "that" is something you aren't really convinced of.

Second, I wasn't asking about Weiner. I was asking about the more general principle. Assume there's a public official that from time to time does something blindingly stupid that hurts no one but himself. Does that, in your mind, disqualify him from public service?

234 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:47:35pm

re: #227 Varek Raith

Hold still.

235 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:47:41pm

re: #232 ReneeJoy

How do we know that that's weiner's weiner in the photo?

The underwear one? He copped to it.

236 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:48:22pm

re: #71 triple

With Breitbart's track record, it's usually a good bet that if his gums are flapping, he's lying. It's just so happens that, this time, there was a "perfect storm": Weiner was lying his ass off and Breitbart just happened to be telling the truth (mostly).

Let's face it: personally, Weiner is a sleaze, IMO. Does that make me want to repudiate defending him and giving Breitbart an apology? Hell no...Weiner was worth the benefit of the doubt, Breitbart was not (and still isn't).

237 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:48:28pm

re: #232 ReneeJoy

How do we know that that's weiner's weiner in the photo?

Feel free to chair the House investigation.
/

238 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:48:29pm

re: #227 Varek Raith

Very cool pic.

239 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:48:46pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

The underwear one? He copped to it.

Dropped the veil.

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:49:02pm

Here. I took a picture on my phone.

Now, take your phone and secretly take a picture of the picture on my phone with your phone.

Now, go ahead and try and publish it. Have at it.

241 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:49:32pm

re: #222 reine.de.tout

YAY!
waitaminute . . .
Chief of whose staff, exactly?
did I really just write that?

I was going to ask to what position ought we assign the Roi, but thyought better of it.

242 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:49:54pm

re: #215 celticdragon


Now, please sod off and bother somebody else.

I'm sorry that you are bothered with arguments that you either don't understand or disagree with, but that is the nature of blogs, or at least for those who wish to engage in debate.

When this place become all ditto heads I'll leave, until then I'll see you around.

243 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:51:31pm

re: #236 talon_262

And for the record, I'll gladly eat crow and say that I was wrong about Weiner, but I'll never apologize for standing up for and defending him, because Breitbart is just that bad.

244 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:51:55pm

re: #230 Naso Tang

I love how you simultaneously occuse people of not getting nuance and pursuing tangents. It's spiffy.

Yes, that is actually what I said, but I am saying that this one shows a form of stupidity that was so obviously self destructive that it could not be attributed, as might be the case, to a momentary unplanned lack of self control.

The vast majority of affairs are not momentary unplanned lack of self control, though, but continuing things.

And I have no idea why you're positing that someone doing something highly risky is somehow indicative of being less self-destructive, based on the idea that he lacked self control in the moment.

Contrary to the prudes who need physical intercourse for something to be sexually bad, I consider these planned and deliberate acts to show an even worse mindset for someone in his position.

Yes, I really do get that you think this. I'm asking you why it shows a worse mindset than someone who has moments where he loses self control enough to sleep with someone

It's not like having a fling on a junket is really a momentary lack of self control. You don't just trip and wind up with your face in the bartender.

Why do you feel the need to throw in the personal insult of 'prude' while you're talking about this? Just makes you feel good, or do you honestly thing your argument is stronger when you're jabbing at other people like that?

245 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:52:36pm

Today's secret word: Dittohead.

246 garhighway  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:54:03pm

re: #244 Obdicut

The world needs more spiffy.

And with that, we are pulling into Penn Station (dump that it is) and I am signing off.

See ya.

247 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:54:15pm

re: #245 Slumbering Behemoth

Today's secret word: Dittohead.


Let's all get out our Seekrit Squirrel decoder rings and read our message!

248 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:54:38pm

re: #94 triple

Well that's a logical disaster if I've ever seen one. You're just going to blindly defend whoever Breitbart targets next, regardless if they're actually innocent or not? How about doing some critical thinking and deciding for yourself if they're innocent.

Ahem.

...your credentials as the Pope of Critical Thinking are suspect.

With full intent of being pedantic and insulting, you aren't demonstrating Critical Thinking by any definition. You're condemning others for not "thinking critically" --but contextually you've asserted no claims demonstrating rigor of thought or formal argumentaton. Adornments aside, you've just been asserting that you're right and anyone that contradicts you must be dumb/irrational/wrong-thinking.

I retort with a formal construction of why you're full of it:

1. It does not follow from a condemnation of Andrew Breitbart that Anthony Weiner is less cupable in any way. You're the only one making an assertion that this is present in discussion. Continued umbrage about a position you have projected onto others is a straw man.

2. It is logically consistent to thoroughly vet and independently confirm any assertion made by an individual or organization with an easily-traceable record of dishonesty. You keep glossing over this.

3. Serial presentation of data reinforced skepticism: the first offered "proof" was extremely weak, and justified processing of alternatives...which exactly what happened. Your impression based on his conduct in a press conference is neither critical thinking nor critical analysis, and any sense of validity to that impression is retroactive.

4. Check the Magic Honesty Karma Scoreboard. Consistent hack lies on his websites plus consistent hoax "journalism" minus one true story equals still a hack liar. I see no justification for treating each BB story as occurring in a void, any more than I would for a tabloid or the Socialist Worker's Weekly.

5. Continuous with (2) and (4), there is every reason to remain skeptical of any further and future assertions made or endorsed by Andrew Breitbart: one is not a meaningful trend on which to predict anything.

6. Recent developments suggest that continued wariness of Andrew Breitbart are in order, what with the whole "...making an elaborate public display of making a moral decision not to reveal a photo of the Rep's penis, then doing so to shock and amuse his friends, fellow pundits, and the production team on a morning radio show."

So sod off.

249 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:54:44pm

re: #245 Slumbering Behemoth

Today's secret word: Dittohead.

There are days you worry me.
//

250 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:55:02pm

Now even Joan Walsh at Salon.com is calling for Weiner's resignation, not out of moral indignation, but out of consideration for his wife, who is reported to be pregnant...

[Link: www.salon.com...]

251 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:55:18pm

97deg in ABQ...sun like a laser
5% humidity
and to the west is a perfect grayness below the bright blue...smoke

252 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:55:23pm

re: #247 celticdragon

Just click the link and bang your head.

253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:56:01pm

re: #247 celticdragon

Let's all get out our Seekrit Squirrel decoder rings and read our message!

"A crappy commercial? Son of a bitch."
-Ralphie

254 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:57:18pm

re: #248 The Ghost of a Flea

Ahem.

...your credentials as the Pope of Critical Thinking are suspect.

With full intent of being pedantic and insulting, you aren't demonstrating Critical Thinking by any definition. You're condemning others for not "thinking critically" --but contextually you've asserted no claims demonstrating rigor of thought or formal argumentaton. Adornments aside, you've just been asserting that you're right and anyone that contradicts you must be dumb/irrational/wrong-thinking.

I retort with a formal construction of why you're full of it:

1. It does not follow from a condemnation of Andrew Breitbart that Anthony Weiner is less cupable in any way. You're the only one making an assertion that this is present in discussion. Continued umbrage about a position you have projected onto others is a straw man.

2. It is logically consistent to thoroughly vet and independently confirm any assertion made by an individual or organization with an easily-traceable record of dishonesty. You keep glossing over this.

3. Serial presentation of data reinforced skepticism: the first offered "proof" was extremely weak, and justified processing of alternatives...which exactly what happened. Your impression based on his conduct in a press conference is neither critical thinking nor critical analysis, and any sense of validity to that impression is retroactive.

4. Check the Magic Honesty Karma Scoreboard. Consistent hack lies on his websites plus consistent hoax "journalism" minus one true story equals still a hack liar. I see no justification for treating each BB story as occurring in a void, any more than I would for a tabloid or the Socialist Worker's Weekly.

5. Continuous with (2) and (4), there is every reason to remain skeptical of any further and future assertions made or endorsed by Andrew Breitbart: one is not a meaningful trend on which to predict anything.

6. Recent developments suggest that continued wariness of Andrew Breitbart are in order, what with the whole "...making an elaborate public display of making a moral decision not to reveal a photo of the Rep's penis, then doing so to shock and amuse his friends, fellow pundits, and the production team on a morning radio show."

So sod off.

Thread is over everybody go home, this guy just won.

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:57:48pm

re: #248 The Ghost of a Flea

Check the Magic Honesty Karma Scoreboard

I love that. Stealing it.

256 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:57:59pm

re: #250 ralphieboy

Now even Joan Walsh at Salon.com is calling for Weiner's resignation, not out of moral indignation, but out of consideration for his wife, who is reported to be pregnant...

[Link: www.salon.com...]

That is probably best for his wife and future child.

That is what really matters. His political career is irrelevant.

257 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:58:12pm

re: #249 researchok

There are days you worry me.
//

Why? I am a Slayer fan after all. You should know this.
/I'm gettin' too old for the pit, though

258 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:58:14pm

re: #244 Obdicut


It was Naso Tangs original (and insulting) question to me that poisoned the well right off the bat. I don't care to debate with people who act like insufferable assholes when they ask (or accuse,in his case) something and then get indignant when you tell them to get lost.

259 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:58:17pm

re: #248 The Ghost of a Flea

You had me at "sod off".

260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:58:46pm

re: #256 researchok

That is what really matters. His political career is irrelevant over.

261 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:58:50pm

re: #233 garhighway

Two thoughts:

Firsts, starting a sentence with "I think it can be argued that..." is a tell. It means that everything that comes after the "that" is something you aren't really convinced of.

Second, I wasn't asking about Weiner. I was asking about the more general principle. Assume there's a public official that from time to time does something blindingly stupid that hurts no one but himself. Does that, in your mind, disqualify him from public service?

I will take your literary suggestion to heart, although in this context, answering a question with two options, I think it can be argued that saying I think it can be argued was appropriate enough, so to speak.

However, I think it can be argued that there is no general answer to your question. Politicians do stupid things all the time. The problem is that usually the public forgets very fast because they focus on the next stupid thing from another one. Sara Palin gets away with it all the time, then someone like Bachmann takes the next one.

This is a different category. It shows something fundamentally wrong with the man's character.

262 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 3:59:55pm

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

Why? I am a Slayer fan after all. You should know this.
/I'm gettin' too old for the pit, though

So, you like my scalp tattoos?
//

263 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:00:13pm

re: #260 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That too

264 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:00:20pm

We are thrice blessed.

265 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:00:39pm

re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"A crappy commercial? Son of a bitch."
-Ralphie


LOL that is exactly what I was thinking of :)

266 Big_Iron  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:00:52pm

Let's just cut to the chase, get right down to the real nitty gritty, cut out all the bullshit, however you want to put it. Wiener got caught with his pants down being a college boy playing with his new toy. Breitbart had the real cajones, that's balls to you folks who don't comprende, to bring it to the attention of a dumbed down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "American Idol."

267 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:01:16pm

elephants go berserk
[Link: video.foxnews.com...]

268 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:01:32pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

I trust your hypersleep was nice?

269 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:01:58pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

Let's just cut to the chase, get right down to the real nitty gritty, cut out all the bullshit, however you want to put it. Wiener got caught with his pants down being a college boy playing with his new toy. Breitbart had the real cajones, that's balls to you folks who don't comprende, to bring it to the attention of a dumbed down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "American Idol."

We have a new special friend, lizards....

270 Chrysicat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:02:31pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

Oh, Lord, please tell me you're taking the piss for all of us. If you really mean that, then...y'know, I can't even think straight...

271 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:02:43pm

re: #248 The Ghost of a Flea

Must have been some flea.

272 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:02:57pm

Are we expecting anyone?

Image: whites%2022.jpg

273 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:02:57pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

Let's just cut to the chase, get right down to the real nitty gritty, cut out all the bullshit, however you want to put it. Wiener got caught with his pants down being a college boy playing with his new toy. Breitbart had the real cajones, that's balls to you folks who don't comprende, to bring it to the attention of a dumbed down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "American Idol."

Tell me about your mother...

274 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:03:07pm

re: #250 ralphieboy

Now even Joan Walsh at Salon.com is calling for Weiner's resignation, not out of moral indignation, but out of consideration for his wife, who is reported to be pregnant...

[Link: www.salon.com...]

I don't think Huma's pregnancy means Joan Walsh should chime in and tell him to resign. I still think it's Huma's business, and no one else's (except her husband's, of course) what happens in her marriage. If Walsh didn't think he should resign before, this is a weird reason to change her mind. And if she did, what's the point?

275 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:03:13pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

How does that take cajones?

Giving the US public a new sex scandal takes cajones?

276 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:03:16pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

Let's just cut to the chase, get right down to the real nitty gritty, cut out all the bullshit, however you want to put it. Wiener got caught with his pants down being a college boy playing with his new toy. Breitbart had the real cajones, that's balls to you folks who don't comprende, to bring it to the attention of a dumbed down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "American Idol."

yawn....try thinking up something original

277 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:03:26pm

re: #267 albusteve

elephants go berserk
[Link: video.foxnews.com...]

Damn! That one sure hates motorcycles.

278 ozbloke  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:03:42pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

Let's just cut to the chase, get right down to the real nitty gritty, cut out all the bullshit, however you want to put it. Wiener got caught with his pants down being a college boy playing with his new toy. Breitbart had the real cajones, that's balls to you folks who don't comprende, to bring it to the attention of a dumbed down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "American Idol."

Publicizing oneself for personal gain does not take balls, promise.

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:07pm

re: #271 Obdicut

I saw what you did there.

280 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:12pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

On further review, I think you're just doing parody.

281 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:12pm

Wiener's and Balls and Wiener.

282 zora  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:25pm

re: #250 ralphieboy

Now even Joan Walsh at Salon.com is calling for Weiner's resignation, not out of moral indignation, but out of consideration for his wife, who is reported to be pregnant...

[Link: www.salon.com...]

i'm sure if his wife wants him to resign she'll let him know. why does joan walsh think she knows what's best for huma abedin?

283 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:30pm

re: #244 Obdicut

Why do you feel the need to throw in the personal insult of 'prude' while you're talking about this? Just makes you feel good, or do you honestly thing your argument is stronger when you're jabbing at other people like that?

My ears are still stinging, figuratively, from the other day. I make a point and I'm pissed as hell at Weiner and if you think that I'm being mean by saying "prude" (about some commenters before), then I am giving far less than I have received; but aside from thinking that serial down dinging (I'm testing the reaction speeds here) is just plain rude, as it used to be considered a few years ago; I'm still smiling and having a good argument.

284 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:34pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

Let's just cut to the chase, get right down to the real nitty gritty, cut out all the bullshit, however you want to put it. Wiener got caught with his pants down being a college boy playing with his new toy. Breitbart had the real cajones, that's balls to you folks who don't comprende, to bring it to the attention of a dumbed down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "American Idol."

Let me be the first to apologize for the South. Sorry, Reptiles!

285 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:42pm

re: #274 wrenchwench

I don't think Huma's pregnancy means Joan Walsh should chime in and tell him to resign. I still think it's Huma's business, and no one else's (except her husband's, of course) what happens in her marriage. If Walsh didn't think he should resign before, this is a weird reason to change her mind. And if she did, what's the point?

She works for Hillary Clinton, so she has someone to talk to about dealing with a husband whose infidelities are so obsequious as to cause national scandals and calls for resignation...

286 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:04:58pm

re: #277 Slumbering Behemoth

Damn! That one sure hates motorcycles.

imagine if they were grown...I seen vids of them demolishing structures, knocking cars over...the works

287 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:05:01pm

re: #274 wrenchwench

I don't think Huma's pregnancy means Joan Walsh should chime in and tell him to resign. I still think it's Huma's business, and no one else's (except her husband's, of course) what happens in her marriage. If Walsh didn't think he should resign before, this is a weird reason to change her mind. And if she did, what's the point?

It's the internet.

Everybody has an opinion.

I for believe the world needs more roughage.

288 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:05:45pm

James, you still around?

289 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:05:54pm

re: #275 Obdicut

How does that take cajones?

Giving the US public a new sex scandal takes cajones?

It doesn't. I think it meant to insinuate that those who doubted BB, as anyone with half a brain rightfully would, lack balls.

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:06:19pm

I'd have a difficult time voting for a guy named Weiner out of sheer childishness. However, I've voted for Bush four times.

That make me a hypocrite?

291 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:06:33pm

re: #283 Naso Tang

As always, whining about downdings will get you more downdings.

Why are you so obsessed with them?

292 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:06:34pm

re: #286 albusteve

imagine if they were grown...I seen vids of them demolishing structures, knocking cars over...the works

Can you imagine the poor sods who have to face this?
Image: WarElephants.jpg

293 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:06:54pm

re: #288 researchok

James, you still around?

Yeah why do you ask?

294 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:07:03pm

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd have a difficult time voting for a guy named Weiner out of sheer childishness. However, I've voted for Bush four times.

That make me a hypocrite?

Slow learner.

295 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:07:05pm

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd have a difficult time voting for a guy named Weiner out of sheer childishness. However, I've voted for Bush four times.

That make me a hypocrite?

Boy, could I run with that....

296 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:07:30pm

re: #286 albusteve

imagine if they were grown...I seen vids of them demolishing structures, knocking cars over...the works

It's pretty damn scary. I still think the beasts are awesome to behold, though.

297 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:07:35pm

re: #266 Big_Iron


Let's just cut to the derp, get right down to the real derka derka, cut out all the herpderp, however you want to put it. Wiener got caught with his derps down being a college boy playing with his new derp.Breitbart had the real derka, that's derps to you folks who don't derkaderka,to bring it to the attention of a derped down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "Derk my Jerk."

There ya go.

298 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:07:42pm

Imagine that you are trying to brief a person who has just awoken from a 40 year coma:

Patient: "Ok, you can say 'fuck' on TV but you can't smoke a cigarette in the airport terminal?"
Briefer: "That's correct."
Patient: "And the last flight to the Moon was way back in '72?"
Briefer: That is correct again.
Patient: "And a rich moose-hunting woman from the backwoods of Alaska is portraying herself as a typical middle-American?"
Briefer: "Right again."
Patient: "And a Congressman whose actual, real name is Weiner is in trouble for exposing himself in public?"
Briefer: "Exactly"
Patient: "BULLSHIT!! I'm still dreaming!

299 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:08:05pm

re: #283 Naso Tang

And if you're after good argument, why'd you respond to the only part of my post that wasn't, you know, part of the discussion?

300 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:08:07pm

re: #293 jamesfirecat

Yeah why do you ask?

Just wanted to know how you're doing.

Been a while since we talked.

I hope all is well.

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:08:16pm

re: #296 Slumbering Behemoth

It's pretty damn scary. I still think the beasts are awesome to behold, though.

They had some bad-ass ones in LOTR. But they belonged to Orcs, ie... easy to bring down.

302 Chrysicat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:09:45pm

re: #289 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm the first to admit I lack balls...in the literal sense. In the figurative one, I wonder why it's such a good thing to have them...isn't that exactly what got Weiner in trouble?

303 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:10:42pm

Jerry Brown:
Since January, we have reduced the number of state-issued cell phones by 44 percent -- and we’ll keep cutting. bit.ly/jLO3cw

Now THAT'S how you keep dicks off the internet.

304 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:10:43pm

I think Andrew Breitbart just blocked me on Twitter. Heh.

305 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:10:44pm

I need by bullshit snorkle

306 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:10:53pm

re: #300 researchok

Just wanted to know how you're doing.

Been a while since we talked.

I hope all is well.

Things are fine, busy playing Sol Survivor and surfing Know your Meme for MLP:FiM pics...

307 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:10:57pm

re: #302 Chrysicat

I'm the first to admit I lack balls...in the literal sense. In the figurative one, I wonder why it's such a good thing to have them...isn't that exactly what got Weiner in trouble?

See my 295
//

308 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:11:18pm

re: #302 Chrysicat

I'm the first to admit I lack balls...in the literal sense. In the figurative one, I wonder why it's such a good thing to have them...isn't that exactly what got Weiner in trouble?


They are nothing to brag about, in my experience.

Of course, I am a bit biased here.

309 darthstar  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:11:29pm

re: #304 Charles

I think Andrew Breitbart just blocked me on Twitter. Heh.

Well, he finally had a big enough dick to do it. Credit Rep. Weiner for that one.

310 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:11:35pm

re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They had some bad-ass ones in LOTR. But they belonged to Orcs, ie... easy to bring down.

Mûmakil.

311 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:11:39pm

re: #306 jamesfirecat

Things are fine, busy playing Sol Survivor and surfing Know your Meme for MLP:FiM pics...

Good to hear.

My universe is back in alignment.

Stay well.

312 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:12:03pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

313 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:12:23pm

re: #291 Obdicut

As always, whining about downdings will get you more downdings.

Why are you so obsessed with them?

Actually I'm trying to make the point that I don't care. I'm yearning for the good old days when they meant something. I don't know who changed the rules and I don't think it was Charles. We used to give anyone hell for doing that because it was what all the shy little lurkers and socks would do before they had enough courage to say something.

I think it is rude outside of exceptional circumstances to indicate you have read a post and disagree but can't be bothered to say why.

314 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:12:29pm

re: #310 Varek Raith

Mûmakil.


Big, nasty, foul tempered and psychotic handlers to boot.

315 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:12:29pm

re: #312 Charles

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Heh!

316 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:12:32pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

You much of a putz do you have to be re: #304 Charles

I think Andrew Breitbart just blocked me on Twitter. Heh.

Took him this long for his pea brain to comprehend the action? I'm shocked, I tells ya, shocked!!!

317 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:12:34pm

re: #304 Charles

I think Andrew Breitbart just blocked me on Twitter. Heh.

A well earned war medal.

318 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:12:49pm

re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They had some bad-ass ones in LOTR. But they belonged to Orcs, ie... easy to bring down.

How it should have ended.

Youtube Video
319 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:13:12pm

re: #312 Charles

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Can't imagine why it took that hick toolbox two-and-a-half years to come back.
//

320 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:13:43pm

re: #312 Charles

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

3 years, and he felt the need to grace us with his wit today. I feel tingly all over!

321 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:14:09pm

re: #319 Kid A

Can't imagine why it took that hick toolbox two-and-a-half years to come back.
//

Highly elliptical orbit.

322 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:14:26pm

re: #304 Charles

I think Andrew Breitbart just blocked me on Twitter. Heh.

Gee, Andy, if you can't stand the heat, quit farting toward the campfire.

323 blueraven  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:16:06pm

re: #312 Charles

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

of course.

324 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:16:24pm

Kinda petered out--BBL.

325 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:16:37pm

re: #318 Slumbering Behemoth

been through that, book says that eagles would not carry the thing...

326 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:16:41pm

re: #322 Shiplord Kirel

Gee, Andy, if you can't stand the heat, quit farting toward the campfire pouring gasoline on your johnson

327 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:16:59pm

re: #312 Charles

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Well luckily since the Stephen Hawking has come up with a logical explanation for how we got something for nothing luckily!

[Link: www.albertmohler.com...]

328 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:17:01pm

re: #312 Charles

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Ah, the old "International conspiracy involving billions of people over the course of more than 150 years". I don't think even someone as pernicious as Alex Jones is dumb enough to pimp that conspiracy theory.

329 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:17:29pm

re: #320 celticdragon

3 years, and he felt the need to grace us with his wit today. I feel tingly all over!

You sure that's not the burn of the delousing powder you'd have to dip into after dealing with pricks like that?

330 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:18:26pm

re: #325 ralphieboy

Party pooper. I bet you take candy from babies too.

331 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:18:29pm

re: #266 Big_Iron

LBreitbart had the real cajones, that's balls to you folks who don't comprende, to bring it to the attention of a dumbed down public eager to put down their remote controls and cut off "American Idol."

Indeed, we mortals couldn't possibly understand the fortitude and mental focuses required to stare--sometimes for hours!--at Rep Weiner's sculpted pecs, flat stomach, and massive todger. That man is the Henry the Fifth of dick photos. Oh we happy few....

332 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:19:32pm

re: #328 Slumbering Behemoth

Ah, the old "International conspiracy involving billions of people over the course of more than 150 years". I don't think even someone as pernicious as Alex Jones is dumb enough to pimp that conspiracy theory.

I've reread his three-year-old post now a couple of times. There is no way this tool is for real. It has got to be a joke.

333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:20:22pm

re: #318 Slumbering Behemoth

HISHE auto-ding.

334 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:22:41pm

re: #312 Charles

Here's Big_Iron's last appearance at LGF:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Damn - that's - stupid.

335 celticdragon  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:22:49pm

I'm hungry and my back pain is flaring up. BBL.

336 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:23:45pm

re: #330 Slumbering Behemoth

Party pooper. I bet you take candy from babies too.


only to prevent tooth decay and diabetes. I never eat it, I just throw it in the fiery furnace...

337 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:23:47pm

@AnthonyCumia

Heading back to NYC for an appearance on Redeye. I'll be talking.

338 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:24:09pm

re: #332 Kid A

I've reread his three-year-old post now a couple of times. There is no way this tool is for real. It has got to be a joke.

Several years ago there were hundreds of posters on the same topic. They normally hung out late at night...I thought Charles got them all out of here.. You could feel the dumbness every time you read them..

339 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:24:49pm

Hell must have frozen over, because even most of the commenters a Gateway Pundit are condemning Breitbart for this. The don't necessarilly believe he released the photo on purpose, but they're calling him and "idiot" for going on Opie & Anthony with it, and saying he's shot himself in the foot.

340 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:25:30pm

By the way, you can't blame Anne Coulter for her reaction in that photo.

After all, most women are probably a bit shocked the first time they
see a penis.....

341 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:25:57pm

re: #339 Hawaii69


you mean even those folks have seen through his lame attempt at plausible deniability?

342 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:26:08pm

re: #340 Hawaii69

Hey oh!

343 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:26:33pm

re: #313 Naso Tang

Note: When trying to note you don't care about them, don't bring it up over and over and over and write long paragraphs about how much it sucks.

344 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:26:41pm

re: #112 makeitstop

I'm not understanding how his wife being pregnant makes the situation worse.

Same here.

A new life is coming. Something to look forward to, I would hope, especially as it seems to be much more important than the father's recent episode of stupid shenanigans.

345 AK-47%  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:26:42pm

re: #340 Hawaii69

By the way, you can't blame Anne Coulter for her reaction in that photo.

After all, most women are probably a bit shocked the first time they
see a penis...


She has never seen one before because all her partners make her put a bag over her head?

346 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:29:40pm

re: #343 Obdicut

Note: When trying to note you don't care about them, don't bring it up over and over and over and write long paragraphs about how much it sucks.

You asked what sounded like a reasonable question. If you don't want a reasonable answer, just shut up to begin with.

347 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:30:50pm

re: #346 Naso Tang

I'm pointing out that your answer isn't reasonable, or at least, not credible. Either saying you don't care, or writing discursively about how much downding suck, would be a reasonable answer. Doing both at once is self-contradictory.

348 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:32:34pm

re: #341 ralphieboy

you mean even those folks have seen through his lame attempt at plausible deniability?


I don't know about that, but none of them seem to happy about him allowing that photo to get. Even some of the more rabid commenters there are pissed off....if only because they think Breitbart just negated any credibility he may have gained from this by showing off a photo that he said he wouldn't release.

349 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:33:53pm

re: #345 ralphieboy

She has never seen one before because all her partners make her put a bag over her head?


What I meant to say was, she's never seen a penis other than her own....

She actually dated Bill Maher but.....come on.

350 sagehen  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:33:59pm

re: #46 C1nnabar

Not to sound bloodthirsty or anything, but if a few people blew away the people breaking down their doors, it might function as a deterrent even if the door-breakers were "in the right." (I wonder what a jury would do when the case was prosecuted...)

No need to wonder

351 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:34:03pm

Spar Kling!

Ah, the old days.
///

352 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:36:54pm

re: #349 Hawaii69

What I meant to say was, she's never seen a penis other than her own...

She actually dated Bill Maher but...come on.


I'd go out with her anytime..Hopefully we could date without talking about her books at dinner...

353 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:39:42pm

Now that Weiner's wife is pregnant, does he finally resign within, say, 48 hours?

354 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:40:18pm

Facepalm City:
The Swampers are speculating about whether Weiner has converted to Islam.
No doubt he will be attending the same double-secret mosque as Obama.

355 sagehen  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:41:28pm

re: #112 makeitstop

That's the second time I've seen someone say that (the first was on Facebook).

I'm not understanding how his wife being pregnant makes the situation worse.

It reduces her range of options to respond to his actions; she can't tell him to just get the hell out of her life. Even if she leaves him, there'll still be 18 years of visitation and maybe shared custody.

356 Hawaii69  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:41:28pm

re: #352 HoosierHoops

I'd go out with her anytime..Hopefully we could date without talking about her books at dinner...

Considering she dated Bill Maher, and some other liberals....not to mention
that she apparently hangs out with some well known liberals when she
goes out...she seems to have the capacity to separate her money machine
from her personal life.

I might even be cynical and say that she just says outrageous shit to make money.....

357 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:41:36pm

re: #353 Kid A

Now that Weiner's wife is pregnant, does he finally resign within, say, 48 hours?

why should he resign?...Clinton didn't

358 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:41:57pm

re: #353 Kid A

Now that Weiner's wife is pregnant, does he finally resign within, say, 48 hours?

No, but this should move it along!

[Link: philadelphia.cbslocal.com...]

359 researchok  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:42:20pm

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel

Facepalm City:
The Swampers are speculating about whether Weiner has converted to Islam.
No doubt he will be attending the same double-secret mosque as Obama.

Clearly, we don't have enough to worry about.

360 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:42:27pm

Why is this scandal getting so much freaking media attention? I mean, I could understand if this guy was say ... the president of the United States, but damn!

361 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:42:40pm

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel

Facepalm City:
The Swampers are speculating about whether Weiner has converted to Islam.
No doubt he will be attending the same double-secret mosque as Obama.

If true (not that I think it would be), would that mean that Weiner's wiener would be halal?

*rimshot*

362 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:43:32pm

re: #360 ElCapitanAmerica

Why is this scandal getting so much freaking media attention? I mean, I could understand if this guy was say ... the president of the United States, but damn!

Some kind of transference, maybe, because the president won't give them the scandal they crave?

363 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:43:35pm

re: #353 Kid A

Now that Weiner's wife is pregnant, does he finally resign within, say, 48 hours?

I'm guessing when Hillary and his wife get back from overseas.. There will be a talk...
On the bright side.. The empty guest room will be occupied

364 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:43:57pm

re: #360 ElCapitanAmerica

Why is this scandal getting so much freaking media attention? I mean, I could understand if this guy was say ... the president of the United States, but damn!

heh,,, how many hours/posts did you spend showing how a twitter acct could have a photo attached to it via yfrog?
Why do all that if it wasn't " the president of the United States"
:)

365 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:44:25pm

This could be interesting.

In God We Teach

366 sattv4u2  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:44:44pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

367 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:45:15pm

re: #357 albusteve

why should he resign?...Clinton didn't

I never said he should. I asked if he would. read it again.

368 sagehen  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:46:51pm

re: #215 celticdragon

Amazingly, I have the ability to distinguish private behavior apart from his job competency. Had this been something that actually went into the range of despicable, (think John Edwards and wife with cancer), then I allow that character questions would override that, but sexting does not even begin to rise to that level in my judgement.

An argument could be made that not realizing the internet is forever... is evidence of a lack of understanding of the world.

369 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:47:12pm

re: #367 Kid A

I never said he should. I asked if he would. read it again.

why would he resign?...Clinton didn't

370 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:47:51pm

re: #250 ralphieboy

Now even Joan Walsh at Salon.com is calling for Weiner's resignation, not out of moral indignation, but out of consideration for his wife, who is reported to be pregnant...

[Link: www.salon.com...]

Because what his wife really needs right now is a disgraced and unemployed husband.

371 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:49:35pm

re: #369 albusteve

why would he resign?...Clinton didn't

I think he should...He is sucking the air out of politics..
The Dems rallied behind Clinton..Different

372 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:50:38pm

re: #364 sattv4u2

heh,,, how many hours/posts did you spend showing how a twitter acct could have a photo attached to it via yfrog?
Why do all that if it wasn't " the president of the United States"
:)

Because it was technically challenging and interesting?

This is the number #1 dumb (no offense meant) question that gets ask on Slashdot whenever an impractical technical hack or program gets featured and people still don't get it.

373 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:51:41pm

re: #347 Obdicut

I'm pointing out that your answer isn't reasonable, or at least, not credible. Either saying you don't care, or writing discursively about how much downding suck, would be a reasonable answer. Doing both at once is self-contradictory.

No, your logic is terribly self serving. I gave a polite and rational answer to what appears now to have been nothing more than a leading question with implied comment; but you did get your ditto head dings, which seems appropriate. The intellectual level here, by some, is dinging itself down.

374 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:51:53pm

re: #371 HoosierHoops

I think he should...He is sucking the air out of politics..
The Dems rallied behind Clinton..Different

maybe he should resign on the same day that Charlie Rangle does...a twofer

375 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:52:30pm

re: #374 albusteve

maybe he should resign on the same day that Charlie Rangle does...a twofer

Or Vitter.

376 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:52:53pm

Lyndon B. Johnson was noted for bragging about the size of his manhood and, indeed, for occasionally exposing the proof to reporters.

This means that Weiner has the most famous johnson since Johnson.

377 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:53:35pm

re: #369 albusteve

why would he resign?...Clinton didn't

Yeah, I guess it's hard to top the Gold Standard, right? American President gets blown in the Oval Office with a skank that's close to his daughter's age; new nickname for "cigar" and "blowjob" circulate like wildfire. Maintains presidency and leaves office with high ratings. After all, that's all that matters, right? No wonder people are so sick of these narcissistic fuckers.

378 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:54:09pm

re: #374 albusteve

maybe he should resign on the same day that Charlie Rangle does...a twofer

If Rangle showed his junk on the Internet he'd be gone years ago....

379 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:54:36pm

re: #378 HoosierHoops

If Rangle showed his junk on the Internet he'd be gone years ago...

Oh, my eyes. STOP!!!
/

380 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:55:49pm

re: #378 HoosierHoops

If Rangle showed his junk on the Internet he'd be gone years ago...

gets CAUGHT, that is....Rangle is a slimeball that should have been tossed last year
ETHICS!

381 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:56:06pm

Hoosier, Lebron taking quite a bit of heat (NO PUN!) today for that pathetic fourth quarter.

382 sagehen  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:56:40pm

re: #369 albusteve

why would he resign?...Clinton didn't

so Congress spent a gazillion hours on things that had nothing to do with anybody's legislative agenda, Al Gore lost in 2000, the Clinton/Gore administration's economic agenda and foreign policy and national security measures all evaporated.

Weiner is no longer an effective spokesman for the issues he championed; staying in office may also make it more difficult for others of his party in purple districts.

383 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:58:08pm

Excuse me while I brag: According to Google Analytics, from May 8 - June 7, LGF traffic increased by 55.97%.

384 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:58:49pm

re: #382 sagehen

so Congress spent a gazillion hours on things that had nothing to do with anybody's legislative agenda, Al Gore lost in 2000, the Clinton/Gore administration's economic agenda and foreign policy and national security measures all evaporated.

Weiner is no longer an effective spokesman for the issues he championed; staying in office may also make it more difficult for others of his party in purple districts.

I could care less about history or his party...his career is probably doomed and I think he should drag it out forever...just for kicks

385 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:59:14pm

shannynmoore Shannyn Moore

Life was easier when you had to actually sit on the Xerox machine and then FAX a picture of your junk. #thegoodoldays

386 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:59:16pm

re: #383 Charles

Excuse me while I brag: According to Google Analytics, from May 8 - June 7, LGF traffic increased by 55.97%.

Wow. It's the best site on the net. 55.97% is the best we could do??

387 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:59:16pm

re: #381 Kid A

Hoosier, Lebron taking quite a bit of heat (NO PUN!) today for that pathetic fourth quarter.

Yea..I know..I caught up with SC and this morning Talk radio..
I think he'll do 25 next game

388 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 4:59:31pm

re: #383 Charles

Excuse me while I brag: According to Google Analytics, from May 8 - June 7, LGF traffic increased by 55.97%.

BARTENDER!

389 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:00:18pm

re: #387 HoosierHoops

Yea..I know..I caught up with SC and this morning Talk radio..
I think he'll do 25 next game

Child, please. 32+.

390 wrenchwench  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:02:39pm

re: #383 Charles

Excuse me while I brag: According to Google Analytics, from May 8 - June 7, LGF traffic increased by 55.97%.

Image: dec05882-12e0-49fd-a2f3-6fcf381fd394.jpg

391 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:03:07pm

re: #390 wrenchwench

Brilliant.

392 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:03:11pm

re: #383 Charles

Excuse me while I brag: According to Google Analytics, from May 8 - June 7, LGF traffic increased by 55.97%.

Hooray!

393 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:05:53pm

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel

Facepalm City:
The Swampers are speculating about whether Weiner has converted to Islam.
No doubt he will be attending the same double-secret mosque as Obama.

People seems to have a real concern with a non-muslim man marrying a muslim woman.

Take it from me and my wife; the answer to this is really simple....

Go and get hitched at city hall!

There, problem solved! No conversions, no balony on either side. I'll bet Weiner and his bride did just that, or just had a secular ceremony.

394 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:06:31pm

re: #389 Kid A

Child, please. 32+.

The Mavs defense has been great and 6 comebacks in the 4th quarter in the playoffs...The blew the world champions to the curb.. I thought the Thunder could beat them.. You just can't count these guys out...

395 Chrysicat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:07:02pm

re: #365 Slumbering Behemoth

This could be interesting.

In God We Teach

Haven't had a chance to play it yet (this is enough of a distraction from the game my beloved Rockies are playing anyway), but the text on the site suggests that's a pro-intelligent-design-and-other-signs-of-God-in-the-public-classroom video.

Should I be mad enough to spit?

396 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:07:21pm

re: #383 Charles

Excuse me while I brag: According to Google Analytics, from May 8 - June 7, LGF traffic increased by 55.97%.

Asshole! XOXO Drunken Pam, Red State, Gateway Idiot, Hot Air

Image: imgres.jpg

397 Obdicut  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:08:37pm

re: #383 Charles

But according to webrankings depending on toolbars installed by little old ladies in Peoria who need to call their grandson every time they turn on the internets, it's gone down 20%!


Why Alexa is crap

398 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:09:00pm

re: #395 Chrysicat


The role of religion had been central in American society from its founding to the present day, and remains a contentious topic in American life and politics. Passions run high on issues such as abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, and the “ground-zero mosque.”

No need to go further. Spit as much as you please.

399 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:10:34pm

re: #362 wrenchwench

Some kind of transference, maybe, because the president won't give them the scandal they crave?

You know, I didn't think about that angle, but it makes a little sense. Both Obama and Weiner are young and forceful Democrats, butting heads with the GOP, both of them married, the Obamas have children and (now we know) Weiner and his wife are expecting a child.

Weiner did enough to earn the most of the scorn he's been getting over all of this, but some in the GOP are piling on, IMO, even though they've had (and have) members in Congress that are just as bad continuing to serve. Not that that excuses any of the creeps, but I think it should be their constituents and/or their Congressional peers that decide whether they stay or go, not smear artists like Breitbart, not pundits, and not the court of public opinion (of people outside their districts).

400 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:12:02pm

re: #399 talon_262

You know, I didn't think about that angle, but it makes a little sense. Both Obama and Weiner are young and forceful Democrats, butting heads with the GOP, both of them married, the Obamas have children and (now we know) Weiner and his wife are expecting a child.

Weiner did enough to earn the most of the scorn he's been getting over all of this, but some in the GOP are piling on, IMO, even though they've had (and have) members in Congress that are just as bad continuing to serve. Not that that excuses any of the creeps, but I think it should be their constituents and/or their Congressional peers that decide whether they stay or go, not smear artists like Breitbart, not pundits, and not the court of public opinion (of people outside their districts).

I think BO should RESIGN!
are you listening to me?

401 b_snark  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:12:21pm

re: #386 Kid A

Wow. It's the best site on the net. 55.97% is the best we could do??

That depends on how high it was to begin with, doesn't it.

402 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:13:24pm

re: #397 Obdicut

Alexa.
Lol.

403 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:13:27pm

re: #395 Chrysicat

I took this text as indicating the documentary maker intended to give fair hearing to both sides in this particular case. Did I miss something?

404 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:14:37pm

re: #401 b_sharp

That depends on how high it was to begin with, doesn't it.

a 60% leap in one month is very sweet....that's all? makes no sense

405 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:15:19pm

re: #362 wrenchwench

Some kind of transference, maybe, because the president won't give them the scandal they crave?

I've thought about this before this situation. I think the press is hungry fro scandal and President Obama won't give them one because he's a decent man and not corrupt. I think they really, really miss White House scandals, but they will take whatever they can get. That and touting every outlier poll showing him losing to Mitt Romney, when every other poll has him beating every possible GOP candidate.

406 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:15:31pm

albusteve is headed up to DC...
he's gonna chew gum, kick ass and cast stones til he gets his way

407 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:16:15pm

re: #397 Obdicut

The idiots who harass me love to point at Alexa rankings -- but I just laugh at them. That /. article is exactly right. Alexa rankings are worthless, and their traffic measurements border on fraudulent.

408 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:17:00pm

re: #406 albusteve

albusteve is headed up to DC...
he's gonna chew gum, kick ass and cast stones til he gets his way

Youtube Video

Go get 'em, Steve!

409 b_snark  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:17:08pm

re: #406 albusteve

albusteve is headed up to DC...
he's gonna chew gum, kick ass and cast stones til he gets his way

As I've cautioned others before, don't forget your pointy stick.

410 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:18:35pm

re: #406 albusteve

albusteve is headed up to DC...
he's gonna chew gum, kick ass and cast stones til he gets his way

I think you should go all LT. Dan on them

411 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:18:35pm

re: #408 Slumbering Behemoth

[Video]Go get 'em, Steve!

there are illegal drugs being glorified there....shame on you

412 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:20:20pm

re: #411 albusteve

Ha ha ha! Here, let me make it up to you...

Youtube Video
413 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:20:45pm

re: #410 HoosierHoops

I think you should go all LT. Dan on them

just like here at LGF, everybody is scrambling around saying resign! or don't resign...just like DC it's a game and you want to root for the winning side

414 b_snark  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:21:02pm

re: #406 albusteve

albusteve is headed up to DC...
he's gonna chew gum, kick ass and cast stones til he gets his way

I hope the stones you cast don't include Keith Richards, or Mick Jagger. They could get hurt.

415 ingenu  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:22:11pm

Breitbart was on a C-Span call-in program. He received a call from someone who claimed, as I recall, to have worked at a store that rented and sold videos. The caller started naming the porn videos Clarence Thomas had gotten from him. Breitbart interrupted and kept saying: "You're a creep!" until the caller went away.

I think Breitbart was right then. He now deserve to have what he said to the caller said about him.

416 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:22:31pm

re: #414 b_sharp

I hope the stones you cast don't include Keith Richards, or Mick Jagger. They could get hurt.

neither of those two would be anywhere near stupid enough to get caught up in shit like this...well, let me rephrase that

417 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:25:26pm

re: #413 albusteve

just like here at LGF, everybody is scrambling around saying resign! or don't resign...just like DC it's a game and you want to root for the winning side

Hey Steve! Did you see this?

Bill Clinton & Keith Richards after having dinner @ Craft NYC

418 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:25:38pm

re: #416 albusteve

neither of those two would be anywhere near stupid enough to get care if they got caught up in shit like this...well, let me rephrase that


like this?

419 Digital Display  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:26:20pm

re: #416 albusteve

neither of those two would be anywhere near stupid enough to get caught up in shit like this...well, let me rephrase that

Are you going to check out some clubs?

Youtube Video
420 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:27:54pm

re: #417 Stanley Sea

Hey Steve! Did you see this?

Bill Clinton & Keith Richards after having dinner @ Craft NYC

Bill has his bag of weed and Kieth made a small profit...cool

421 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:29:15pm

re: #419 HoosierHoops

Are you going to check out some clubs?

[Video]

Lizard Dance!

422 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:29:22pm

re: #258 celticdragon

It was Naso Tangs original (and insulting) question to me that poisoned the well right off the bat. I don't care to debate with people who act like insufferable assholes when they ask (or accuse,in his case) something and then get indignant when you tell them to get lost.

I don't get indignant when I'm called an insufferable asshole (as opposed to ditto head) or indignant when someone who pretends to be debating tells the opponent to get lost; but I do firm up my opinions about the speaker and the groupies.

You do realize that you are describing your own literary skills, and emotional limitations much more vividly than my own, don't you?

423 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:29:40pm

re: #418 Capitalist Tool

like this?

well, Mick liked his exotic, petite Latino...he liked his tall, lanky Texan...but his real passion was for beloved David
[Link: www.snopes.com...]

424 albusteve  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:30:41pm

re: #419 HoosierHoops

Are you going to check out some clubs?

[Video]

ah no...but I might hit the Birchmere, or the State Theater in Falls Church

425 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:32:26pm

re: #396 Kid A

Image: imgres.jpg

Heh...which one of the wingnut cesspools made up the "No LGF" graphic?

Doesn't really matter, I suppose...they're all a bunch of paranoid, xenophobic, bigoted losers.

426 Chrysicat  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:33:44pm

re: #425 talon_262

Are we sure that one of the right-wing blogs made it? It's not like the liberal sites didn't despise this place long before the righties did...

427 zora  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:36:02pm

re: #393 Surabaya Stew

bill clinton married them, i believe.

428 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:36:05pm

re: #425 talon_262

You can google "Little Green Footballs photos," and there's all kinds of stupid shit. Like this...
Image: imgres.jpg

429 Subhuman Varmintghazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:38:09pm

Oops. Sorry. Like this...
Image: chucknpam.jpg

430 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:41:05pm

BBL

Thanks for all the fish.

431 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:42:12pm

re: #423 albusteve

well, Mick liked his exotic, petite Latino...he liked his tall, lanky Texan...but his real passion was for beloved David
[Link: www.snopes.com...]

It may have been titillating and a bit shocking (especially where Jagger is concerned), but I don't particularly care if Bowie and Jagger ever was knocking boots. I must say that that scenario gives a hilarious mental picture...and I'm straight! ;-P

432 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 5:43:51pm

re: #426 Chrysicat

Are we sure that one of the right-wing blogs made it? It's not like the liberal sites didn't despise this place long before the righties did...

Well, I guess that's true....faulty assumption on my part, but the fact that somebody took the time and effort to do it shows someone's not got a full Happy Meal.

433 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 6:03:40pm

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel

Facepalm City:
The Swampers are speculating about whether Weiner has converted to Islam.
No doubt he will be attending the same double-secret mosque as Obama.

Grover Norquist is also a member.

434 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 6:05:19pm

re: #427 zora

bill clinton married them, i believe.

Heh, what does that make him then? another sekrit muzlim?
///

435 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 8:35:05pm

I really can't wait for Sherrod's attorneys to get through with Breitbart.

Breitbart has got to be the most deluded of megalomaniacs if he thinks he can just go around ruining people without consequences.

Just to review the Sherrod case:

He announced he was going to destroy an Obama official. This is a clear statement of intent to do malice.

He knowingly publicized falsely edited tapes that were so hacked up they appeared to say the opposite of what Sherrod actually said. He also defamed her in his public speech.

She lost her job and had a media circus intrude into an otherwise quiet life.

Breitbart bragged about his dirty work.

In other words, by his own actions and own stupid statements, he knowingly and maliciously defamed an innocent woman and will shortly face an open and shut case of slander and libel.

436 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 8, 2011 9:49:56pm

^is very happy to be part of that statistic, C.


re: #383 Charles

Excuse me while I brag: According to Google Analytics, from May 8 - June 7, LGF traffic increased by 55.97%.

437 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 9, 2011 11:04:02am
438 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 9, 2011 11:13:35am

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