Police Investigate Rep. Weiner’s Contact with 17-Year Old Girl

Fox News was there when police arrived
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Things got worse for Anthony Weiner today, as police visited the house of a 17-year old girl with whom he was apparently communicating on Twitter: Anthony Weiner admits contact with girl, 17.

New potential Twitter-related troubles arose for Rep. Anthony Weiner on Friday, after Delaware police reportedly spoke with a 17-year-old high school girl about “direct online communications” she’s had with the disgraced congressman.

Weiner confirmed the communications late in the day, but denied that anything inappropriate took place.

The late-afternoon report by Fox News said New Castle County police officers showed up at the girl’s house at about 4:30 p.m., while a crew from the cable TV network was there.

The police “asked to speak with the girl’s mother about the daughter’s contact with Weiner,” Fox News reported, adding that one of the network’s reporters happened to be there when the cops showed up.

At this point it’s impossible to defend Weiner, but … the Fox News crew was already at the house before the police arrived? Does that seem a little odd to anyone?

UPDATE at 6/10/11 8:23:02 pm

A family member told the New York Times tonight that the messages were “harmless.”

A member of the girl’s family who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect her identity characterized the messages as “harmless.”

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693 comments
1 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:18:07pm

sorry about the other night, Charles...man I really blew my stack, and broke a few of my own rules too

2 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:18:59pm

This is a sad and sorry turn of events.

3 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:19:11pm

Nothing surprises me about this whole thing anymore. I don't think it's really a question at this point about whether or not he should resign, because the party leadership is likely to make that choice for him if the heat gets any hotter.

4 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:19:19pm

Nothing is too odd where Fox is concerned.

5 Daniel Ballard  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:19:43pm

Nah. What is odd is how we have the identity of a minor revealed in a possible sex case. The Fox reporter beating the cops to talk to her? Not odd, but is is truly distasteful. The police move fast for emergencies and crimes in progress. To take reports? Not so much.

6 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:22:30pm

re: #1 albusteve

sorry about the other night, Charles...man I really blew my stack, and broke a few of my own rules too

Thanks for that, Steve. I appreciate it.

7 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:24:06pm

If it's true that Weiner knowingly sent explicit messages to an underage girl, it means we have a criminal pervert in Congress. If it isn't true, otoh, it means Fox News is even more recklessly partisan and irresponsible than we had supposed.

8 Virginia Plain  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:24:29pm

Maybe Fox has some sources in the police force in Delaware.

9 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:24:59pm

re: #3 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nothing surprises me about this whole thing anymore. I don't think it's really a question at this point about whether or not he should resign, because the party leadership is likely to make that choice for him if the heat gets any hotter.

half or more of the people demanding he resign are likely just as dirty....I think he should hang on and see what gives...it's not about politics, it's about principle and he has to start somewhere to turn it around, if that's even possible...he's a sex lush but a reasonable congressman....it's all AmIdol at this point...he has nothing besides his dwindling popularity

10 makeitstop  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:25:10pm

The Fox crew just happened to be there before the cops?

C'mon. I was born at night, but not last night.

Despite Weiner's admitted creepiness, that's just too convenient.

11 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:26:12pm

As has been suggested already, I would guess someone told Fox News who visited the house and suggested calling the police.

However why we don't hear it from Fox first seems a bit odd.

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:28:29pm

Dude is a bad, bad man. Should be thrown out on his ass.

Twittering with a 17 year old when you're not sending sexually explicit photos to a 21 year old girl is dangerous enough.

13 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:29:21pm

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

If it's true that Weiner knowingly sent explicit messages to an underage girl, it means we have a criminal pervert in Congress. If it isn't true, otoh, it means Fox News is even more recklessly partisan and irresponsible than we had supposed.

cha ching!
$$$

14 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:30:07pm

re: #9 albusteve

half or more of the people demanding he resign are likely just as dirty...I think he should hang on and see what gives...it's not about politics, it's about principle and he has to start somewhere to turn it around, if that's even possible...he's a sex lush but a reasonable congressman...it's all AmIdol at this point...he has nothing besides his dwindling popularity

The true punishment for a liar, even if you dismiss what he actually lied about, is that they aren't trusted even when they tell the truth. Weiner has to regain trust. First to his wife and family and if he stays in politics, to the public. That is if he didn't do anything actually criminal.

15 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:30:48pm

Pelosi's likely to have Weiner's over-publicized equipment in a jar on her desk by the time this is over.

16 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:31:25pm

I know absolutely nothing about Twitter, so could someone tell me whether or there is a profile that lists a person's age or DOB and that Weiner would have known she was 17? Or is it like Facebook, where what you put on your visible profile is optional? I make no excuses for him, but I'm curious as to whether or not he could have possibly not known how old she was.

17 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:31:26pm

re: #9 albusteve

half or more of the people demanding he resign are likely just as dirty...I think he should hang on and see what gives...it's not about politics, it's about principle and he has to start somewhere to turn it around, if that's even possible...he's a sex lush but a reasonable congressman...it's all AmIdol at this point...he has nothing besides his dwindling popularity

He might not have a choice if the party leadership thinks that he's drawing too much heat. He's lost credibility, he's lost the moral high ground, and he's losing the media battle. If it comes out that there's any truth to these new allegations, they'll give him two choices: fall on his sword voluntarily or face expulsion.

18 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:31:53pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude is a bad, bad man. Should be thrown out on his ass.

Twittering with a 17 year old when you're not sending sexually explicit photos to a 21 year old girl is dangerous enough.

ya think?...and people love every minute of it....he's the Golden Goose right now...but beat like a mule

19 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:32:01pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel

Pelosi's likely to have Weiner's over-publicized equipment in a jar on her desk by the time this is over.

Barbara Walters said she saw the photo and his junk was impressive.

20 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:33:03pm
the Fox News crew was already at the house before the police arrived? Does that seem a little odd to anyone?


Superior investigative journalism?
/

21 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:33:05pm

re: #16 moderatelyradicalliberal

I know absolutely nothing about Twitter, so could someone tell me whether or there is a profile that lists a person's age or DOB and that Weiner would have known she was 17? Or is it like Facebook, where what you put on your visible profile is optional? I make no excuses for him, but I'm curious as to whether or not he could have possibly not known how old she was.

No, there's no way to tell how old anyone is on Twitter. But in this case, Weiner apparently met the girl at a speech he gave at her high school.

22 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:33:24pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel

Pelosi's likely to have Weiner's over-publicized equipment in a jar on her desk by the time this is over.

she loves it...the power she has over the nit wit must be intoxicating

23 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:33:24pm

re: #16 moderatelyradicalliberal

I know absolutely nothing about Twitter, so could someone tell me whether or there is a profile that lists a person's age or DOB and that Weiner would have known she was 17? Or is it like Facebook, where what you put on your visible profile is optional? I make no excuses for him, but I'm curious as to whether or not he could have possibly not known how old she was.

It doesn't matter. I don't remember if there's an age profile on Twitter (I don't post my age anywhere), but people lie online so that doesn't mean anything.

The thing is, it's his duty to find out. If he has any doubts, and he's what... 46? Then he shouldn't even start.

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:33:50pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel

Pelosi's likely to have Weiner's over-publicized equipment in a jar on her desk by the time this is over.

Check out at Drudge's banner.

25 jaunte  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:34:11pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Superior investigative journalism?
/


Image: precrime.jpg

26 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:34:39pm

re: #21 Charles

No, there's no way to tell how old anyone is on Twitter. But in this case, Weiner apparently met the girl at a speech he gave at her high school.

Oh, well then he has a problem if any of his tweets where inappropriate or sexual.

27 BongCrodny  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:35:04pm

Guess I can rule out my dream ticket for 2016.

Franken-Weiner!

28 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:35:46pm

Fox is on a mission.

29 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:35:55pm

re: #23 marjoriemoon

It doesn't matter. I don't remember if there's an age profile on Twitter (I don't post my age anywhere), but people lie online so that doesn't mean anything.

The thing is, it's his duty to find out. If he has any doubts, and he's what... 46? Then he shouldn't even start.

46 and has no practical sense to live in the meat world...a congressman is a perfect fit for his meager talents

30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:36:45pm

This is more about Weiner than it is about Fox, IMO. They're all over it, but all the other guys would've been there if they knew about it.

31 jaunte  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:36:56pm

re: #26 moderatelyradicalliberal

Those women were all adults, "to the best of my knowledge," he said, though he admitted that he couldn't know for sure.


He's unbelievably irresponsible, as he admits.

32 makeitstop  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:37:19pm

re: #28 darthstar

Fox is on a mission.

Yeah. They're going to finish what Breitbart started.

33 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:37:23pm

He's fucked. Just the innuendos and the media frenzy is gonna get him. All I feel now is fuck that idiot who was such a strong voice for us.

Innocent until proven guilty, unless you are up against the media. Do I feel sad for Sister Sarah? No, not yet.

34 JRCMYP  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:37:50pm

He is so screwed. And you know this is just the beginning.

35 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:37:58pm

re: #28 darthstar

Fox is on a mission.

we all in, in some way shape or form....
Media, the Final Frontier

36 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:38:36pm

re: #21 Charles

No, there's no way to tell how old anyone is on Twitter. But in this case, Weiner apparently met the girl at a speech he gave at her high school.

And if he knew that, then he probably thought responding to her tweets was not an issue. If he tweeted "I want to fuck you" then he's in deep shit.

37 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:39:37pm

re: #23 marjoriemoon

It doesn't matter. I don't remember if there's an age profile on Twitter (I don't post my age anywhere), but people lie online so that doesn't mean anything.

The thing is, it's his duty to find out. If he has any doubts, and he's what... 46? Then he shouldn't even start.

I agree that it's skeevy, I'm just trying to figure out what legal trouble he might be in. Then again the age of consent in Delaware is 16 and 17 in New York, so while it's gross, icky and predatory even if the tweets were sexual, what would be the legal ramifications that would involve the police? You can screw 'em, but you can't talk dirty to them on the internet? We need to make up our minds about when kids are kids and when they aren't. I say 18 across the board.

38 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:39:45pm

re: #16 moderatelyradicalliberal

I know absolutely nothing about Twitter, so could someone tell me whether or there is a profile that lists a person's age or DOB and that Weiner would have known she was 17? Or is it like Facebook, where what you put on your visible profile is optional? I make no excuses for him, but I'm curious as to whether or not he could have possibly not known how old she was.

No, not at all. Your profile is what you make of it. Mine: member of the Uterati living in wingnutistan.

39 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:41:17pm

re: #22 albusteve

she loves it...the power she has over the nit wit must be intoxicating

Happy birthday down ding for putting your negative partisan thoughts into Nancy Pelosi's head.

40 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:41:25pm

re: #29 albusteve

46 and has no practical sense to live in the meat world...a congressman is a perfect fit for his meager talents

He's a good and popular Democrat. He's also a piss poor husband and Mr. Creepy Man.

41 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:41:48pm

re: #36 darthstar

And if he knew that, then he probably thought responding to her tweets was not an issue. If he tweeted "I want to fuck you" then he's in deep shit.

Have we forgotten about pictures already?

42 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:43:16pm

re: #40 marjoriemoon

He's was a good and popular Democrat. He's also a piss poor husband and Mr. Creepy Man.

FIFY.

Anything inappropriate with a teenage girl means he's toast with just about everybody. He's 46 for goodness sake.

43 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:43:22pm

not surprising that a reporter was there first. junior reporters are sometimes sent to "stake out" a possible or developing story.

44 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:43:32pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Happy birthday down ding for putting your negative partisan thoughts into Nancy Pelosi's head.

nothing partisan about it...Pelosi is still a very powerful voice, and if Weiner tangles with her, he'll lose...just an apolitical observation

45 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:44:37pm

re: #19 moderatelyradicalliberal

Are you serious?

46 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:45:36pm

re: #41 Naso Tang

Have we forgotten about pictures already?

as I see it so far, that's all outside the realm of government...he should embrace an ethics investigation...if he's clean that is
it's a wacky situation

47 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:45:37pm

If the cops are involved I'll wait for them to make a statement.

48 researchok  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:46:40pm

The news people may have been there as party of their own news coverage. They may have discovered the name of the girl and were pursuing the story.

It is also possible the girl or her mother contacted FOX News, as did some other women contacted by Weiner.

I'm no fan of FOX but it's hard to believe anything nefarious is going on.

49 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:46:41pm

re: #41 Naso Tang

Have we forgotten about pictures already?

Weren't at this point sent to this chick.

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:47:43pm

re: #40 marjoriemoon

He's a good and popular Democrat. He's also a piss poor husband and Mr. Creepy Man.

Sounds like a current bi-partisan political resume.

51 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:47:44pm

re: #45 ProLifeLiberal

Are you serious?

Baba Wawa must be an expert eh?....just more mindless drivel

52 ear-to-hear  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:48:02pm

Not American here, but I'm sure you have similar laws in US. There are professions (I belong to one) that have legal duty to inform authorities if you receive information of minor/vulnerable person being subjected to abuse, sexual etc.
From the initial news report, I suppose the news people may have been there long enough to hear/see evidence after talking with this girl and her mother, that led them to notify police.

53 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:48:22pm

re: #37 moderatelyradicalliberal

I agree that it's skeevy, I'm just trying to figure out what legal trouble he might be in. Then again the age of consent in Delaware is 16 and 17 in New York, so while it's gross, icky and predatory even if the tweets were sexual, what would be the legal ramifications that would involve the police? You can screw 'em, but you can't talk dirty to them on the internet? We need to make up our minds about when kids are kids and when they aren't. I say 18 across the board.

I assumed you knew he allegedly met the alleged girl heh

It's a bright shiny new world when it comes to net communications. I was talking on the other thread about Mark Foley which kind of was in a similar situation, although he worked with the pages and they were young men, some? one? was 16.

I'm not clear what is state statute and what is federal when it comes to inappropriate communications. I found theinvestigative file on Foley here (PDF)

[Link: www.fdle.state.fl.us...]

Top of page 2 discusses inappropriate communications. Somewhere in that article, it also lists specific law with regard to members of Congress.

54 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:49:25pm

re: #16 moderatelyradicalliberal

I know absolutely nothing about Twitter, so could someone tell me whether or there is a profile that lists a person's age or DOB and that Weiner would have known she was 17? Or is it like Facebook, where what you put on your visible profile is optional? I make no excuses for him, but I'm curious as to whether or not he could have possibly not known how old she was.

Anybody can be anybody on Twitter.

55 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:50:20pm

Weiners new theme song...
woo woo!

Youtube Video
56 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:50:48pm

re: #42 moderatelyradicalliberal

FIFY.

Anything inappropriate with a teenage girl means he's toast with just about everybody. He's 46 for goodness sake.

If it's true, yea.

Didn't this rumor start pretty much right away when the undie pic came out? That little trifecta of ick (patriot76, goatboy and Brietbart)?

57 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:51:38pm

re: #45 ProLifeLiberal

Are you serious?

Yes. One of The View hens asked if you could see his face to know that it was him and then another one of the hens said he hadn't denied it was him and then the Republican hen said that it must have been impressive if he wasn't trying to deny it and then Mama hen said it was. One of the things that bothers me about Babara is that she thinks if she discloses that she knows someone that means she isn't guilty of any bias, but the fact is she always manages to stick up for people she knows personally and likes. She's done it with other prominent people who got into trouble and now she's doing it with Weiner.

58 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:52:22pm

re: #56 marjoriemoon

If it's true, yea.

Didn't this rumor start pretty much right away when the undie pic came out? That little trifecta of ick (patriot76, goatboy and Brietbart)?

And now, the Daily Caller.

We will see. It's the ultimate smear though if not true.

59 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:53:45pm

re: #55 albusteve

Weiners new theme song...
woo woo!

[Video]

Huma's new theme song.
Before He Cheats

Youtube Video
60 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:54:02pm

anybody willing to admit our government is a subculture, with destructive tendencies?...I pin it on the voters

61 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:55:10pm

re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This is more about Weiner than it is about Fox, IMO. They're all over it, but all the other guys would've been there if they knew about it.

Zaccly

Fox (et al) just don't go around knocking on doors asking' "hey,, anything going on we should know about and report on before you call the cops?"

SOMEBODY tipped them

my guess ,,the family for (in their minds) protection and/ or 15 minutes of fame

62 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:55:15pm

re: #60 albusteve

anybody willing to admit our government is a subculture, with destructive tendencies?...I pin it on the voters

I'm sure lobbyists have nothing to do with it.

63 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:55:23pm

re: #59 marjoriemoon

You don't know how long I've been waiting for the right time to post that :p

64 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:55:23pm

you live by the MSM, you die by the MSM....factoid

65 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:56:16pm

re: #62 negativ

I'm sure lobbyists have nothing to do with it.

they are married to the feds...it's all the same cult

66 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:56:42pm

With what percentage of the people that he followed did he exchange lewd messages and photos?

I don't see any reason to jump to this conclusion just because he was following her on twitter.

67 brownbagj  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:57:48pm

So, you're saying Barbara WaWa sticks up for Weiner?

Sorry, couldn't help myself. I will try to do better.

68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:58:03pm

re: #63 marjoriemoon

Not a big current Country Music fan, but that was a well written, performed, and produced song.

69 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:59:07pm

re: #53 marjoriemoon

I assumed you knew he allegedly met the alleged girl heh

It's a bright shiny new world when it comes to net communications. I was talking on the other thread about Mark Foley which kind of was in a similar situation, although he worked with the pages and they were young men, some? one? was 16.

I'm not clear what is state statute and what is federal when it comes to inappropriate communications. I found theinvestigative file on Foley here (PDF)

[Link: www.fdle.state.fl.us...]

Top of page 2 discusses inappropriate communications. Somewhere in that article, it also lists specific law with regard to members of Congress.

I was more so speaking to how odd our laws are. The thing is even if he had met the girl and knew her age, he could have legally had sex with her in both her state and his. I hope he didn't engage in anything inappropriate with the girl. It's gross and lowdown regardless of what the law says. I'm just saying if it's legal for a 46 year old man to have consensual sex with a 17 year old girl, what possible legal trouble could he be in if he talked dirty to her on the internet? Now if it violates specific rules or laws about Congress members that's different, but wouldn't the Capital police be sent to investigate as opposed to local police? I guess we will just have to wait for more facts. Either way, I'm done with this very silly and foolish man. I never had much invested with him to begin with.

70 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 6:59:59pm

re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not a big current Country Music fan, but that was a well written, performed, and produced song.

Heartily agree!

I listen to a decent amount of country. Lots of great singers, but I don't know their names as well as rock. Carrie has an amazing voice.

71 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:00:42pm

re: #67 brownbagj

Upding for the Busey Family Photo. Missed ya!

72 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:01:34pm

I also like a good revenge song now and again.

< -- Alanis fan.

73 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:01:40pm

re: #60 albusteve

anybody willing to admit our government is a subculture, with destructive tendencies?...I pin it on the voters

I think voters play a role, but I think we also have a rigged pool of potential candidates to vote for in the first place. I think all politicians are odd ducks to a certain extent and a large number of them are narcissistic, exhibitionists who like to take risks and are missing the shame gene.

74 brownbagj  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:03:46pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

Yeah. It has been a while. Been a busy dude. I hope all is well with you and that the family photo brought you a smile!

75 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:04:15pm

re: #72 marjoriemoon

I also like a good revenge song now and again.

< -- Alanis fan.

Me too. I think women are going to have to go back to, rolling pins, cast iron skillets and pots of hot grits or fish grease to keep their husbands in line.

76 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:05:52pm

re: #73 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think voters play a role, but I think we also have a rigged pool of potential candidates to vote for in the first place. I think all politicians are odd ducks to a certain extent and a large number of them are narcissistic, exhibitionists who like to take risks and are missing the shame gene.

Kind of ironic. You almost have to be missing the shame gene just to put up with all the BS involved, especially to get elected.

It sounds awful to say, but Edwards was a good Democrat also. I hope people understand when I say that, he (and Weiner) fought the right fights and stood behind the right policies.

Edwards
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]

Weiner
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]

77 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:06:20pm

Evening Honcos. Late to the party, as usual. And without going through all the post, has there been any call from the Hill for him to resign?

78 BongCrodny  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:06:27pm

This whole situation has got that "I did this, but I never, ever did that" vibe about it.

Go home, Anthony. Maybe you can salvage the tiniest, most infinitesimal shred of dignity; you can say you're going to do it out of respect to your wife, whatever. If there's nothing else rattling around in that closet, most people will forget about it over time, just not right now.

GO HOME.

79 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:07:04pm

re: #75 moderatelyradicalliberal

Me too. I think women are going to have to go back to, rolling pins, cast iron skillets and pots of hot grits or fish grease to keep their husbands in line.

hehe So far it's remained fantasy, but it's always good to keep em guessing ;)

80 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:07:46pm

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos. Late to the party, as usual. And without going through all the post, has there been any call from the Hill for him to resign?

Nope...in fact there's now a catalog of every penis in Washington (Bachmann's is black, made of granite, and weighs seven pounds).

81 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:08:23pm

re: #80 darthstar

Nope...in fact there's now a catalog of every penis in Washington (Bachmann's is black, made of granite, and weighs seven pounds).

Shebeatmebythismuch!!

82 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:09:25pm

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar

Shebeatmebythismuch!!

Sometimes it's fun to lose.

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:10:11pm

re: #82 darthstar

Sometimes it's fun to lose.

Maybe. But not on the first date.
/

84 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:10:20pm

re: #76 marjoriemoon

Kind of ironic. You almost have to be missing the shame gene just to put up with all the BS involved, especially to get elected.

It sounds awful to say, but Edwards was a good Democrat also. I hope people understand when I say that, he (and Weiner) fought the right fights and stood behind the right policies.

Edwards
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]

Weiner
[Link: www.ontheissues.org...]

I understand what you mean about them being good Democrats. I think the reason that this kind of behavior upsets me is because getting caught up in stupid personal lies, even about shit they may very well be none of my business, makes it impossible for you to point out the lies on the other side that matter. Republicans may be lying, liars who tell lies about their policies and intentions, but you can't call anybody a liar about anything if you have your own truth telling problems. No matter what kind of serious and valid critiques of the GOP Weiner may have will be undercut, buy somebody telling a penis joke.

85 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:10:21pm

re: #46 albusteve

as I see it so far, that's all outside the realm of government...he should embrace an ethics investigation...if he's clean that is
it's a wacky situation

No, to say "if he is clean" is trite. It is clear that he is a creep and a fool. Just being a fool is good enough for me, even though he has plenty of company there.

86 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:10:32pm

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

Evening Honcos. Late to the party, as usual. And without going through all the post, has there been any call from the Hill for him to resign?

Why would Benny Hill care if Weiner resigns or not?

87 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:10:43pm

re: #78 BongCrodny

This whole situation has got that "I did this, but I never, ever did that" vibe about it.

Go home, Anthony. Maybe you can salvage the tiniest, most infinitesimal shred of dignity; you can say you're going to do it out of respect to your wife, whatever. If there's nothing else rattling around in that closet, most people will forget about it over time, just not right now.

GO HOME.

nah...stick it out til they kill you

88 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:11:10pm

re: #80 darthstar

Nope...in fact there's now a catalog of every penis in Washington (Bachmann's is black, made of granite, and weighs seven pounds).

With or without batteries?

89 BongCrodny  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:12:39pm

re: #72 marjoriemoon

I also like a good revenge song now and again.

< -- Alanis fan.


One revenge song, best served cold!

Buenos Noches From A Lonely Room (She Wore Red Dresses)

90 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:12:46pm

Wasn't the kid Mark Foley sending pics or emails to also 17?

91 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:12:57pm

re: #85 Naso Tang

No, to say "if he is clean" is trite. It is clear that he is a creep and a fool. Just being a fool is good enough for me, even though he has plenty of company there.

I'm not addressing his foolishness...I'm saying the House has to carry through with the investigation that's been called for by Pelosi...Weiner has nothing to lose by sticking it out

92 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:13:30pm

Page on Libya is up. Few Maps were available, so it is a bit Texty.

93 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:14:15pm

re: #88 Naso Tang

With or without batteries?

Internal combustion.

94 aagcobb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:14:16pm

re: #73 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think voters play a role, but I think we also have a rigged pool of potential candidates to vote for in the first place. I think all politicians are odd ducks to a certain extent and a large number of them are narcissistic, exhibitionists who like to take risks and are missing the shame gene.

Its evolutionary; the whole reason to strive to be the alpha male is so you can get the pick of the females. In ancient times, Kings kept harems. Nowadays they have to settle for mistresses, escorts or one night stands.

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:15:35pm

re: #76 marjoriemoon

I dunno, Marge. These guys are world class "bad judgment" guys.

Sounds to me like they had good staff's.

Oh. That came out wrong.

96 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:15:36pm

re: #91 albusteve

I'm not addressing his foolishness...I'm saying the House has to carry through with the investigation that's been called for by Pelosi...Weiner has nothing to lose by sticking it out

WASHINGTON – Amid increasing calls for Rep. Anthony Weiner to resign, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi says the decision should be up to the congressman and his New York constituents.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

97 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:15:59pm

re: #83 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe. But not on the first date.
/

It ain't easy bein' easy.

Youtube Video
98 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:16:48pm

re: #91 albusteve

I'm not addressing his foolishness...I'm saying the House has to carry through with the investigation that's been called for by Pelosi...Weiner has nothing to lose by sticking it out

Only the country has something to lose if out of 300,000,000 people (minus kids) this is the leadership level we are stuck with. I don't give a shit for the technicalities of the equivalent to "what is the meaning of "is"?".

99 theheat  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:17:05pm

If I was Weiner's wife, the top of his head would be as flat as a cast iron skillet. And if the 17 year flirtation thing pans out, he'd be getting off easy with a frying pan to the noggin. The frying pan would only be a warmup.

What a selfish, stupid, lying, POS, enamored with his own dick.

100 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:17:34pm

re: #90 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wasn't the kid Mark Foley sending pics or emails to also 17?

The kid was also mail. The Mark Foley scandal was about outing a gay GOPer more than anything. Just like the real reason the Craigslist Congressman resigned was because some of the women he solicited were transgendered and he knew it. Any whiff of gayness still means, at least certainly for GOPers, you're out.

101 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:17:51pm

regardless of voter turnouts, the American voter is ignorant about politics, and even more so regarding specific candidates and issues...we are just not that interested and both parties exploit it...latched onto the MSM and it's a recipe for disaster...just look around

102 BongCrodny  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:18:32pm

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I dunno, Marge. These guys are world class "bad judgment" guys.

Sounds to me like they had good staff's.

Oh. That came out wrong.


According to Wiki, Weiner has one of the highest staff turnover rates in Congress.

Guess they just couldn't measure up.

103 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:18:55pm

re: #84 moderatelyradicalliberal

I understand what you mean about them being good Democrats. I think the reason that this kind of behavior upsets me is because getting caught up in stupid personal lies, even about shit they may very well be none of my business, makes it impossible for you to point out the lies on the other side that matter. Republicans may be lying, liars who tell lies about their policies and intentions, but you can't call anybody a liar about anything if you have your own truth telling problems. No matter what kind of serious and valid critiques of the GOP Weiner may have will be undercut, buy somebody telling a penis joke.

Ya ya ya.

Edwards... I wouldn't even begin to type the obscenities that run through my head to describe what I think of him. Ahhnold, too, for that matter.

104 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:19:06pm

re: #100 moderatelyradicalliberal

The kid was also mail. The Mark Foley scandal was about outing a gay GOPer more than anything. Just like the real reason the Craigslist Congressman resigned was because some of the women he solicited were transgendered and he knew it. Any whiff of gayness still means, at least certainly for GOPers, you're out.

Good Lord, I mean "male".

105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:19:08pm

re: #90 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wasn't the kid Mark Foley sending pics or emails to also 17?

I think the kid was 16. He's a scumbag too.

106 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:19:14pm

re: #96 Cannadian Club Akbar

WASHINGTON – Amid increasing calls for Rep. Anthony Weiner to resign, House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi says the decision should be up to the congressman and his New York constituents.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

but she in fact pounced the other night and called for the investigation, she is simply playing it both ways...no big deal

107 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:19:40pm

re: #100 moderatelyradicalliberal

Did any Dems call on Foley to resign?

108 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:19:57pm

re: #100 moderatelyradicalliberal

The kid was also mail. The Mark Foley scandal was about outing a gay GOPer more than anything. Just like the real reason the Craigslist Congressman resigned was because some of the women he solicited were transgendered and he knew it. Any whiff of gayness still means, at least certainly for GOPers, you're out.

Chris Lee was dating trannies? The GOP's sex scandals are always better than the Democrats! It's just not fair!

109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:20:58pm

re: #105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think the kid was 16. He's a scumbag too.

Meaning Foley; not the kid.

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:21:03pm

re: #106 albusteve

but she in fact pounced the other night and called for the investigation, she is simply playing it both ways...no big deal

Draining the swamp without actually pulling the plug, I guess.

111 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:21:07pm

re: #78 BongCrodny

This whole situation has got that "I did this, but I never, ever did that" vibe about it.

Go home, Anthony. Maybe you can salvage the tiniest, most infinitesimal shred of dignity; you can say you're going to do it out of respect to your wife, whatever. If there's nothing else rattling around in that closet, most people will forget about it over time, just not right now.

GO HOME.

Ah, but one can never go home!

It's too late at this point. Investigation is underway.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:21:14pm

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm sure none.

113 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:21:17pm

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did any Dems call on Foley to resign?

I honestly can't remember. The fact that it was a young page made it creepy, so I have no doubt some did. But even if the staffer had been 25, the GOP would have cut him loses because of the gayness.

114 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:21:36pm

re: #101 albusteve

regardless of voter turnouts, the American voter is ignorant about politics, and even more so regarding specific candidates and issues...we are just not that interested and both parties exploit it...latched onto the MSM and it's a recipe for disaster...just look around

I will agree with that. Everyone wants smaller government, as long as it's big enough to create jobs while simultaneously getting out of the way, as the Republicans would put it.

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115 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:21:43pm

re: #98 Naso Tang

Only the country has something to lose if out of 300,000,000 people (minus kids) this is the leadership level we are stuck with. I don't give a shit for the technicalities of the equivalent to "what is the meaning of "is"?".

so what does his resignation prove?...our leaders are basically hedonistic...it's all for show

116 ProGunLiberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:21:45pm

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

Using a bucket?

117 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:22:18pm

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Meaning Foley; not the kid.

We got that.

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:22:30pm

re: #108 darthstar

Chris Lee was dating trannies? The GOP's sex scandals are always better than the Democrats! It's just not fair!

Great smile! Smoking ass!! Big tits!! Wait, what's this!!! D'oh!!

119 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:22:55pm

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did any Dems call on Foley to resign?

IIRC, the Foley thing dragged out for as long as it did because Boehner and Co. were stonewalling to protect him. It wasn't until some of the text messages got out and people realized he was stalking young men that they gave him a quick and quiet exit.

120 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:23:00pm

re: #89 BongCrodny

One revenge song, best served cold!

Buenos Noches From A Lonely Room (She Wore Red Dresses)

Yikes!

121 BongCrodny  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:23:09pm

re: #111 marjoriemoon

Ah, but one can never go home!

It's too late at this point. Investigation is underway.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]


"Weiner probe."

Tee hee.

122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:23:19pm

re: #117 Naso Tang

Syntax is everything.

Sintax is what Weiner pays for his cell phone.

123 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:23:23pm

re: #90 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wasn't the kid Mark Foley sending pics or emails to also 17?

16 I think.

124 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:24:07pm

re: #115 albusteve

so what does his resignation prove?...our leaders are basically hedonistic...it's all for show

OK, you are the chief cynic. What else can you add?

125 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:24:17pm

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

Draining the swamp without actually pulling the plug, I guess.

she's doing what's good for her...she doesn't give a honey bear shit about anything else...especially a misfit like Weiner...he's chum for everybody now

126 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:24:56pm

A little Aerosmith to stick with tonight's theme.

Youtube Video
127 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:25:06pm

re: #108 darthstar

Chris Lee was dating trannies? The GOP's sex scandals are always better than the Democrats! It's just not fair!

Black trannies. And he knew it.

[Link: www.angryblacklady.com...]

128 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:25:23pm

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Great smile! Smoking ass!! Big tits!! Wait, what's this!!! D'oh!!


Not again! Jeez...

129 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:25:24pm

re: #124 Naso Tang

OK, you are the chief cynic. What else can you add?

I don't need to add anything, but at least I answer the question

130 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:26:00pm

re: #127 moderatelyradicalliberal

Black trannies. And he knew it.

[Link: www.angryblacklady.com...]

Once you go Black, you can't go CPAC.

131 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:26:08pm

re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Syntax is everything.

Sintax is what Weiner pays for his cell phone.

Heh. But seriously it is sematics that rules. (do I sense a pun there?)

132 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:26:39pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Once you go Black, you can't go CPAC.

D I N G !!!!

133 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:26:51pm

re: #129 albusteve

I don't need to add anything, but at least I answer the question

No you didn't. You only said you don't give a shit.

134 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:28:21pm

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I dunno, Marge. These guys are world class "bad judgment" guys.

Sounds to me like they had good staff's.

Oh. That came out wrong.

lol! The record stands for themselves, what they voted for or against. That's them.

It's not an excuse for their behavior. I'm pretty sure Edwards is going to jail unless his lawyers can find some loophole or technicality. As far as he goes, I don't think the feds usually indict unless they're pretty certain about their case.

Weiner doesn't seem nearly egregious, but who knows. Edwards has lost every bit of credibility he ever had. Cheating on your dying wife doesn't play well.... Weiner may survive his crisis.

135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:28:49pm

Ate a half of a watermelon a while ago. Know what? Those things have a lot of water in them.

136 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:28:50pm

Bill Maher on Rick Santorum: "The closest thing he's ever had to combat is fighting the urge to fuck men." Zing.

137 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:28:57pm

Does anyone know what the laws are in the state of the girl receiving pics of the junk? Or are they strictly Federal?

138 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:29:29pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

Once you go Black, you can't go CPAC.

LOL! Makes his abrupt resignation make a lot more since, doesn't it? I don't think Weiner's odds of surviving this are good be he still hasn't violated the old rule: He hasn't been caught with a dead girl or a live boy.

139 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:29:44pm

re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ate a half of a watermelon a while ago. Know what? Those things have a lot of water in them.

Mine usually have vodka.

140 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:30:29pm

re: #133 Naso Tang

No you didn't. You only said you don't give a shit.

so did you before me...I ask again, what does his resignation prove?...is he a criminal or broken House rules?...being a stupid d-bag doesn't always lead to resignation and his constituents apparently still want him around

141 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:31:12pm

re: #136 darthstar

Bill Maher on Rick Santorum: "The closest thing he's ever had to combat is fighting the urge to fuck men." Zing.

Is Bill suggesting that Santorum may have some personal experience with Santorum?

142 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:31:31pm

re: #100 moderatelyradicalliberal

The kid was also mail. The Mark Foley scandal was about outing a gay GOPer more than anything. Just like the real reason the Craigslist Congressman resigned was because some of the women he solicited were transgendered and he knew it. Any whiff of gayness still means, at least certainly for GOPers, you're out.

I was reading a bit about Foley last night. He said on the Hannity interview that he resigned immediately when his scandal came out. Implying that's what Weiner should have done (and yes, that's what Weiner should have done). But according to the Wiki, that's not wholly true. He was forced to resign by the GOP... sorry "by request" of the GOP.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

143 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:32:15pm

re: #102 BongCrodny

According to Wiki, Weiner has one of the highest staff turnover rates in Congress.

Guess they just couldn't measure up.

Really! Oh my, that doesn't sound good does it.

144 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:33:18pm

re: #134 marjoriemoon

Weiner may survive his crisis.

I don't know anything about working in government, but if I worked in an office with someone who I knew acted like this I would not be able to sit in a meeting and dismiss it from my mind, nor take him seriously.

Is being able to do that what makes a politician?

145 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:34:13pm

Maher's reading Weiner's tweets verbatim - it's pretty funny...he's reading it with the lady from the show "Glee"...
from the Black Jack dealer: "You get your ass to work and save my country from these cock-sucking Republicans"
Weiner: "I love it when you talk about cock sucking"

The whole bit is pretty funny...that's just the last two lines.

146 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:35:25pm

re: #60 albusteve

anybody willing to admit our government is a subculture, with destructive tendencies?...I pin it on the voters

I'd say there's an entire complex of subcultures that interact in and around politics: party wonks, lobbyists, politicians, and all the human infrastructure that back the former up. If the higher levels of the election machinery work anything like the backstage of local politics I'm familiar with it's basically sliding into a bubble of priveledge...you simultaneously get the resources to indulge things prior unconsidered and a social network that insulates and obscures your activities because of the manner their interests are wed to a given politician's status.

147 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:35:26pm

re: #144 Naso Tang

I don't know anything about working in government, but if I worked in an office with someone who I knew acted like this I would not be able to sit in a meeting and dismiss it from my mind, nor take him seriously.

Is being able to do that what makes a politician?

Ted Kennedy's staff was probably loyal to him, maybe even worshipped the son of a bitch...it all depends

148 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:36:13pm
Youtube Video
149 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:36:23pm

re: #140 albusteve

so did you before me...I ask again, what does his resignation prove?...is he a criminal or broken House rules?...being a stupid d-bag doesn't always lead to resignation and his constituents apparently still want him around

It would prove that he thought he could no longer serve effectively and put his country before his ambition, or the stupid ignorance of his constituents; but I think you already referenced the latter part.

I suppose I am walking myself into the same corner with your cynicism.

150 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:36:34pm

Satt!! !! !! ??

151 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:36:57pm

re: #150 Stanley Sea

Satt!! !! !! ??

Ye!! !! !! ??

152 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:36:58pm

re: #146 The Ghost of a Flea

I'd say there's an entire complex of subcultures that interact in and around politics: party wonks, lobbyists, politicians, and all the human infrastructure that back the former up. If the higher levels of the election machinery work anything like the backstage of local politics I'm familiar with it's basically sliding into a bubble of priveledge...you simultaneously get the resources to indulge things prior unconsidered and a social network that insulates and obscures your activities because of the manner their interests are wed to a given politician's status.

right...I hate the feds

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:38:05pm

re: #150 Stanley Sea

He's busy with the suffering right now. My I help you?

154 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:38:24pm

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's busy with the suffering right now. My I help you?

you ARE a Bastard !!

:(

155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:38:53pm

re: #151 sattv4u2

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oops.

156 sagehen  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:38:57pm

re: #119 darthstar

IIRC, the Foley thing dragged out for as long as it did because Boehner and Co. were stonewalling to protect him. It wasn't until some of the text messages got out and people realized he was stalking young men that they gave him a quick and quiet exit.

It was Hastert at the time; and two or three other congressmen were also helping cover it up (one was on the ethics committee, another was part of the RCCC); there was *TONS* of outcry from elected dems, blogs, left-leaning broadcasters, it was featured in campaign ads...

That was a Dem wave year because of Iraq anyway, but Foley's Follies was directly responsible for maybe 4 seats.

157 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:39:03pm

re: #149 Naso Tang

It would prove that he thought he could no longer serve effectively and put his country before his ambition, or the stupid ignorance of his constituents; but I think you already referenced the latter part.

I suppose I am walking myself into the same corner with your cynicism.

there are many doors down that hallway

158 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:39:08pm

re: #155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oops.

hehehehe

159 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:39:19pm

re: #144 Naso Tang

I don't know anything about working in government, but if I worked in an office with someone who I knew acted like this I would not be able to sit in a meeting and dismiss it from my mind, nor take him seriously.

Is being able to do that what makes a politician?

No I agree. He's got to go.

My opinion clearly, but I think those constituents who want him to stay are thinking about the shortage of Democrats in the House. I feel that pain. I really do, but he's got to go.

160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:39:34pm

re: #154 sattv4u2

you ARE a Bastard !!

At least I don't live in America's Hat!

161 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:41:13pm

re: #147 albusteve

Ted Kennedy's staff was probably loyal to him, maybe even worshipped the son of a bitch...it all depends

Every situation, and time is different. As I've said before, in this case it is the crass stupidity that gets to me. Anyone who takes juvenile risks with their career, and family, will do the same with those who elected them. He failed, and it wasn't even hypocritical.

Just my personal take.

162 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:41:25pm

It's great that Mark Foley has come to terms with his sexual orientation.

But why isn't there any accountability for the incredible damage he did to gay rights while he was hiding it, and all the while trying to find Congressional pages to fuck?

Mark Foley is the poster boy for Republican anti-gay hypocrisy, and he only came out because he had no choice. If he hadn't been caught, he'd still be wreaking havoc to this day.

No respect from me.

163 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:41:42pm

re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

At least I don't live in America's Hat!

I once lived in Greensboro North Carolina, but that was closer to Americas drop seat!

164 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:41:49pm

re: #156 sagehen

It was Hastert at the time; and two or three other congressmen were also helping cover it up (one was on the ethics committee, another was part of the RCCC); there was *TONS* of outcry from elected dems, blogs, left-leaning broadcasters, it was featured in campaign ads...

That was a Dem wave year because of Iraq anyway, but Foley's Follies was directly responsible for maybe 4 seats.

And Foley's name was left on the ballot because they were already printed!

165 hugh59  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:42:16pm

While this is embarrassing, I don't know if it is illegal. Of course, just because conduct is not illegal does not mean that it is okay to do it. I think it was immoral and wrong. He deserves to be shamed and ridiculed. As for criminal punishment, we need to look at the laws in all jurisdictions involved. Probably Delaware; Washington, DC; New York...maybe Virginia or Maryland (depending on whether Weiner has a residence in the DC area in either of those states that he used while making contact with the teen).

I have not looked at this entire thread to see if anyone is an expert on the criminal laws in these jurisdictions. Wikipedia has a good article on this.[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I used to know the Ohio law better (I was an assistant prosecutor once and I handled these types of crimes); it looks like Ohio law may have changed in the last 11 years. Ohio also had a crime called "contributing to the unruliness or delinquency of a child" that could be used in cases where the statutory rape law was not applicable. This crime is only a misdemeanor. It is possible that the states where Weiner was active may have a similar criminal offense to charge him with.

166 Mark Winter  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:42:52pm

maybe it couldn't hurt to remember that

1) we only have Breitbart's claim that the "explicit" photo on his mobile phone is genuine
2) that twittering with a 17yo is not illegal and not necessarily inappropriate.

Actually it would be rather pointless for Weiner to readily admit contact with the girl and claiming there was nothing inappropriate. He must know that he'd be proven wrong tomorrow if he lied.

If his interaction with the girl had been inappropriate or even illegal he would have shut up at this point.

167 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:45:56pm

re: #146 The Ghost of a Flea

I'd say there's an entire complex of subcultures that interact in and around politics Wallstreet: party banker wonks, lobbyists, politicians, and all the human infrastructure that back the former up. If the higher levels of the election board room machinery work anything like the backstage of local politics I'm familiar with it's basically sliding into a bubble of priveledge...you simultaneously get the resources to indulge things prior unconsidered and a social network that insulates and obscures your activities because of the manner their interests are wed to a given politician's insider's status.

168 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:46:15pm

re: #165 hugh59

Belize

In Belize, the age of consent is 16 for all heterosexuals. Since 2003, male homosexuality has been re-criminalized (regardless of age) [5]

The legislation reads:

Criminal Code [CAP. 101] [5]

* Section 47.2

"Every person who (a) unlawfully and carnally knows any girl who is of or above the age of fourteen years but under the age of sixteen years (...) shall be guilty of an offence and on conviction thereof be imprisoned for a term which shall not be less than five years nor more than ten years."

* Section 53. "Unnatural Crime"

“Every person who has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any person or animal shall be liable to imprisonment for ten years.”

Holy crap!!!

169 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:46:32pm

re: #162 Charles

It's great that Mark Foley has come to terms with his sexual orientation.

But why isn't there any accountability for the incredible damage he did to gay rights while he was hiding it, and all the while trying to find Congressional pages to fuck?

Mark Foley is the poster boy for Republican anti-gay hypocrisy, and he only came out because he had no choice. If he hadn't been caught, he'd still be wreaking havoc to this day.

No respect from me.

that was more than 15 minutes ago and time equals distance...ancient history...losing interest and taking advantage of it is typical

170 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:46:51pm

re: #142 marjoriemoon

I was reading a bit about Foley last night. He said on the Hannity interview that he resigned immediately when his scandal came out. Implying that's what Weiner should have done (and yes, that's what Weiner should have done). But according to the Wiki, that's not wholly true. He was forced to resign by the GOP... sorry "by request" of the GOP.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

he lied on Fox. And half our population believe said lie.

gah

171 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:47:19pm

re: #167 Naso Tang

huh?

172 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:47:34pm

P.S. Mark Foley hid his gay lifestyle because he was profiting mightily from being an anti-gay Republican. It's all about money.

173 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:47:41pm

re: #152 albusteve

right...I hate the feds

I live in Kentucky; my dislike of things at the federal level is currently trumped by epic local shittiness.

174 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:49:11pm

re: #172 Charles

P.S. Mark Foley hid his gay lifestyle because he was profiting mightily from being an anti-gay Republican. It's all about money.

and the greatest damage, you alluded to, is to his own gay community...like a traitor

175 hugh59  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:49:11pm

re: #104 moderatelyradicalliberal

Good Lord, I mean "male".

Hey, we all type wrong words from time to time. Sometimes we can't even blame the auto-spelling correct. What you meant is more important than what you typed.

176 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:49:15pm

re: #159 marjoriemoon

No I agree. He's got to go.

My opinion clearly, but I think those constituents who want him to stay are thinking about the shortage of Democrats in the House. I feel that pain. I really do, but he's got to go.

I heard that there will be a loss of two seats for NY due to the census. His could be on the block and it would not be a loss due to election.

177 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:49:59pm

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Belize

...snip
Holy crap!!!


That's only 5 years.

178 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:50:50pm

re: #162 Charles

It's great that Mark Foley has come to terms with his sexual orientation.

But why isn't there any accountability for the incredible damage he did to gay rights while he was hiding it, and all the while trying to find Congressional pages to fuck?

Mark Foley is the poster boy for Republican anti-gay hypocrisy, and he only came out because he had no choice. If he hadn't been caught, he'd still be wreaking havoc to this day.

No respect from me.

Actually, he was "warned" a year or so previous because of the same actions.

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

The whole thing about gays coming out. It's not easy as a general rule, and for a person like him, downright impossible. I totally don't get gay Republicans either, but that's me.

At any rate, yea, the GOP couldn't get rid of him fast enough when it was made public. Otherwise, he should have been gone before.

179 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:51:33pm

re: #173 The Ghost of a Flea

I live in Kentucky; my dislike of things at the federal level is currently trumped by epic local shittiness.

Was your dad at UofL or UK? I might owe him a paper.

180 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:51:34pm

re: #171 albusteve

huh?

I was editing to make a point that politics is not the sole preserve of this type of privilege.

I should have written an introduction.

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:51:54pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

That's only 5 years.

I was more surprised they had laws on the books about teh gays.

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:52:38pm

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was more surprised they had laws on the books about teh gays.

Have, as it is.

183 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:52:40pm

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was more surprised they had laws on the books about teh gays.

It hasn't been that long ago here.

184 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:52:43pm

re: #180 Naso Tang

I was editing to make a point that politics is not the sole preserve of this type of privilege.

I should have written an introduction.

that seems pretty obvious

185 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:53:52pm

Great Game

Congrats to both teams

The series is right where it should be

3-2,,, all home wins (so far)

I hope that keeps going Monday

THEN,,, Game 7 ,,,a ROAD TEAM WIN !!

186 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:54:14pm

re: #184 albusteve

that seems pretty obvious

What? The edit or the need for an intro; or is that obvious? :)

187 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:54:17pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

It hasn't been that long ago here.

I thought the SC overturned a law from Texas?

188 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:54:33pm

re: #159 marjoriemoon

No I agree. He's got to go.

My opinion clearly, but I think those constituents who want him to stay are thinking about the shortage of Democrats in the House. I feel that pain. I really do, but he's got to go.

Agreed. I know folks want to believe the Weiner can rise above this, that he can put this all behind him. But I have serious doubts that he will be able to, certainly not when stories like this keep popping up.

189 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:55:03pm

gah bruins. I'm out. going to drown sorrows with steak and wine. Upside?

190 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:55:35pm

re: #189 Stanley Sea

gah bruins. I'm out. going to drown sorrows with steak and wine. Upside?

see 185

191 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:55:43pm

re: #187 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought the SC overturned a law from Texas?

Some law, but that must only have been in the 60s.

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:55:49pm

re: #189 Stanley Sea

gah bruins. I'm out. going to drown sorrows with steak and wine. Upside?

I'm here so I won't be stealing your steak and wine.:)

193 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:55:57pm

re: #186 Naso Tang

What? The edit or the need for an intro; or is that obvious? :)

shitty people are everywhere...but I think the concentration in govt is hardly a surprise...for one thing it's a goldmine if you play it right

194 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:56:58pm

re: #188 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Agreed. I know folks want to believe the Weiner can rise above this, that he can put this all behind him. But I have serious doubts that he will be able to, certainly not when stories like this keep popping up.

what a hearty bloke...going down with the ship, that is

195 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:57:44pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Some law, but that must only have been in the 60s.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

196 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 7:58:41pm

re: #193 albusteve

shitty people are everywhere...but I think the concentration in govt is hardly a surprise...for one thing it's a goldmine if you play it right

Palin and Gingrich have learned that well.

197 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:00:00pm

re: #179 Decatur Deb

Was your dad at UofL or UK? I might owe him a paper.

No. Northwestern in the 70s, guest positions in the 80s.

198 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:01:14pm

re: #196 Naso Tang

Palin and Gingrich have learned that well.

And Rangle and Gore and DeLay and Spitzer and Foley and ,,,,,,

199 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:01:40pm

re: #195 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Hell--thought that it was even earlier.

200 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:02:15pm

re: #194 albusteve

what a hearty bloke...going down with the ship, that is

I'm figuring right now, Pelosi and the rest of the leadership are debating whether or not to just go ahead and toss Weiner over the gunwale now. If he chooses to run for reelection, he may cost them the seat, something they really can't afford if they want to retake the House.

201 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:02:59pm

re: #198 sattv4u2

And Rangle and Gore and DeLay and Spitzer and Foley and ,,,

miles of smiles...
if heartaches were nickles...
Joe B

Youtube Video
202 Achilles Tang  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:03:01pm

re: #198 sattv4u2

And Rangle and Gore and DeLay and Spitzer and Foley and ,,,

Would be interesting to see a ranking of money made, after entering politics.

Hmm. Maybe an email to Rachel M is called for.

203 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:03:25pm

re: #200 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm figuring right now, Pelosi and the rest of the leadership are debating whether or not to just go ahead and toss Weiner over the gunwale now. If he chooses to run for reelection, he may cost them the seat, something they really can't afford if they want to retake the House.

The Dems would put money from the DNC behind someone else running as a Dem. And attack ads against Weiner.

204 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:04:16pm

re: #200 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm figuring right now, Pelosi and the rest of the leadership are debating whether or not to just go ahead and toss Weiner over the gunwale now. If he chooses to run for reelection, he may cost them the seat, something they really can't afford if they want to retake the House.

that puts the voters in play and nobody wants that!
good point

205 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:08:33pm

For what it's worth, Foley was also molested by his priest when he was about 12.

[Link: www.heraldtribune.com...]

The larger part, to me, of all this was that Foley was in deep trouble and the GOP knew about it. House Speaker Hassert took a lot of well deserved criticism over not getting Foley out of there and some help a year prior. Foley also had a drinking problem.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

MSNBC Video

The GOP didn't care about him in the least, nor the boys, just about him being outed and in the end, he was anyway. Foley, in that Hannity interview, defended Hassert, if I recall which is hideous.

206 jfxgillis  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:08:45pm

Charles:

At this point it’s impossible to defend Weiner


Well, if you won't, I will.

Right-wing bloggers speculating about what they imagine could have happened is NOT evidence the police should take account of. Ever.

Remembering ... Kenneth Starr wound up in Clearwater, Florida interviewing Greg Norman because some freak on freerepublic imagined Monica must have been there.

207 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:11:16pm

re: #206 jfxgillis

Charles:


Well, if you won't, I will.

Right-wing bloggers speculating about what they imagine could have happened is NOT evidence the police should take account of. Ever.

Remembering ... Kenneth Starr wound up in Clearwater, Florida interviewing Greg Norman because some freak on freerepublic imagined Monica must have been there.

changes nothing...Weiner is indefensible, it's not about the law or public opinion

208 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:11:31pm

re: #206 jfxgillis

It was a right wing blog that made the police look into this incident?

209 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:16:44pm

NYT on the Weiner texts 45 minutes ago:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Family is pissed at private talk, but says communications were not criminal.

210 jfxgillis  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:16:53pm

re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar

Um. Yeah. Follow the memorandum river backwards.

211 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:20:25pm

A Closer Look at Gov. Perry’s Day of Prayer Partners


Take a look at one of the people Governor Rick Perry is working with on the event – David Sliker is a senior leader at Lou Engle’s International House of Prayer, and serves on the board of TheCall. Lou Engle and TheCall played a significant role in stirring up anti-LGBT sentiments in Uganda, where proposed legislation would make being gay a crime punishable by death in some circumstances.

That’s not all Sliker does – he also maintains [Link: www.heisatthedoor.com...] where he has written extensively about topics including the “end-times.” Sliker – a partner in Gov. Perry’s day of prayer – has called marriage equality “one of the most ominous signs of our time”

212 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:20:31pm

re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar

It was a right wing blog that made the police look into this incident?

It is, of course, impossible that the family in question might have cooked up a scheme to get their 15 minutes of Balloon Boy fame. It certainly couldn't have been one of them who called Fox first, and then the cops. No-sir-ree-bob.

Obviously, I have no idea whether that's what happened. At this point, I'm sick of the whole thing. I've lost 80% of my lulzy respect for Weiner, not so much because of what he did, but rather because he was apparently so intensely stupid as to fail to realize that the internet does not forgive, and does not forget.

213 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:20:51pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

NYT on the Weiner texts 45 minutes ago:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Family is pissed at private talk, but says communications were not criminal.

So there was no impropriety.

The quote:

A member of the girl’s family who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect her identity characterized the messages as “harmless.”

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:20:53pm

re: #210 jfxgillis

Um. Yeah. Follow the memorandum river backwards.

This thread has a Politico link. You know something I don't?

215 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:21:58pm
“harmless.”


Outrageous!

216 jaunte  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:22:07pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

The family member said: “I am angry. This is surreal and unbelievable. It is absolutely crazy. We are just regular people who go to baseball games and basketball games, as ordinary and plain as can be.”

217 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:22:38pm

For the hockey fans, a Texan's report on tonight's game.

Tonight in America's Hat, the Vancouver Canucks beat the Commie, Harvard Bruins by one point, 1-0. The lone point came early in the third quarter, and the Liberals could not tie even as they pulled their Obama-loving quarterback from the net with less than a minute left.

The Canucks now lead the best of five series 3-2, with game six being played in Moscow East on Sunday. The Commies had nearly thirty field goal attempts, but Canucks center Luongo blocked them all.

218 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:22:39pm

re: #210 jfxgillis

Um. Yeah. Follow the memorandum river backwards.

I could give a shit about any river...I call it a landslide and Weiner himself started the entire deal...the rest as far as defending him is slitting hairs...pointing fingers at some blog proves nothing in this case and certainly not any defense of his behavior

219 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:22:48pm

re: #208 Cannadian Club Akbar

It was a right wing blog that made the police look into this incident?

The dog ate my homework

220 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:23:35pm
At the time, a group of conservatives was monitoring Mr. Weiner’s Twitter activity, after noticing that he was sending messages to a woman from Tennessee.

When members of the group saw the girl’s post, suggesting she was engaging in a private conversation with Mr. Weiner, they alerted the congressman that they were watching him. “@RepWeiner new pal is a high school girl. First porn actresses now little girls. Weird.”

They also copied the girl on some of the messages they sent to him, so she sent Mr. Weiner a private message telling him that she felt she was being harassed. He apologized to herin a private message, and removed her from the list of people he followed on Twitter.


Because that's what Jesus would do.
/

221 hugh59  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:23:52pm

The report in the NY Times makes the contacts look fairly harmless.

222 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:24:12pm

re: #213 Charles

So there was no impropriety.

The quote:

Harmless. That will be translated into OMFGZSCANDAL! by the media (and not just Fox News - because "harmless" doesn't sell cars).

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:25:45pm

re: #217 Kid A

Well done, sir!

224 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:25:49pm

re: #212 negativ

It is, of course, impossible that the family in question might have cooked up a scheme to get their 15 minutes of Balloon Boy fame. It certainly couldn't have been one of them who called Fox first, and then the cops. No-sir-ree-bob.

Obviously, I have no idea whether that's what happened. At this point, I'm sick of the whole thing. I've lost 80% of my lulzy respect for Weiner, not so much because of what he did, but rather because he was apparently so intensely stupid as to fail to realize that the internet does not forgive, and does not forget.

Twitteritis can be fatal...the guy is lost in the ozone again and disregarding tangent issues I find it almost hilarious, being the best and the brightest

225 jfxgillis  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:25:57pm

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

You know something I don't?


Um. Yeah. I just told you. Follow the memorandum river backwards.

Or, if that's too hard, just read the NYTimes article. It actually SAYS:

When members of the group saw the girl’s post, suggesting she was engaging in a private conversation with Mr. Weiner, they alerted the congressman that they were watching him. “@RepWeiner new pal is a high school girl. First porn actresses now little girls. Weird.”

They also copied the girl on some of the messages they sent to him, so she sent Mr. Weiner a private message telling him that she felt she was being harassed. He apologized to herin a private message, and removed her from the list of people he followed on Twitter.

So the girl was in fact being harrassed. By a bunch of right-wing bloggers.

226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:26:04pm

So... the magical balance fairy is non-partisan. Good to know.

227 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:27:00pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

Outrageous!

I could croak!

228 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:27:03pm

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ha! Wait until game six. Then the librul media writes it.
//

229 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:27:26pm

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So... the magical balance fairy is non-partisan. Good to know.

Always Has Been
Always Will Be

Great Taste
Less Filling

230 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:27:49pm

re: #225 jfxgillis

Wanna know what's really hard? Posting a link.

231 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:28:02pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

NYT on the Weiner texts 45 minutes ago:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Family is pissed at private talk, but says communications were not criminal.

So horrible for this young girl to go through this! I guess if she's interested in politics, she needs to find out early how it's done. Yeesh.

232 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:28:48pm

re: #231 marjoriemoon

So horrible for this young girl to go through this! I guess if she's interested in politics, she needs to find out early how it's done. Yeesh.

She'll get an 'A' on her civics project.

233 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:29:32pm

re: #225 jfxgillis

Um. Yeah. I just told you. Follow the memorandum river backwards.

Or, if that's too hard, just read the NYTimes article. It actually SAYS:

So the girl was in fact being harrassed. By a bunch of right-wing bloggers.

says who?...wtf are you talking about?

234 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:31:09pm

re: #230 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wanna know what's really hard? Posting a link.

Damn...I guessed wrong again.

235 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:31:35pm

the NYT never once, got it wrong...fact

236 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:31:59pm

re: #231 marjoriemoon

So horrible for this young girl to go through this! I guess if she's interested in politics, she needs to find out early how it's done. Yeesh.

I'd be pissed too if Fox news showed up outside my doorstep looking for dirt. Fucking parasites.

237 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:32:02pm

re: #234 darthstar

Damn...I guessed wrong again.

You were thinking Weiner, weren;t you!

238 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:32:20pm

re: #237 sattv4u2

You were thinking Weiner, weren;t you!

Everything is weiner now.

239 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:33:03pm

re: #238 darthstar

Everything is weiner now.

Chevy Chase,,, FLETCH

"It's all about ball bearings weiners, now"

240 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:33:07pm

re: #237 sattv4u2

You were thinking Weiner, weren;t you!

I betcha Palin is thanking Weiner right about now.

241 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:33:19pm

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd call your new avatar "cheesecake"!

242 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:34:09pm

re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar

I betcha Palin is thanking Weiner right about now.

As a matter of fact, so am I

I leave work in about 30 minutes

Theres a Quick trip right near here before I get on the highway home

2 weiners, $2.00

243 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:34:12pm

re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar

I betcha Palin is thanking Weiner right about now.


Nope...she's too selfish to thank anyone.

244 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:34:31pm

re: #241 prairiefire

I'd call your new avatar "cheeseBEEFYcake"!

ftfy

245 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:34:47pm

re: #243 darthstar

Nope...she's too selfish to thank anyone.

I've dated her kind.
/

246 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:34:58pm

re: #236 darthstar

I'd be pissed too if Fox news showed up outside my doorstep looking for dirt. Fucking parasites.

you'd love it...we'd never hear the end of it

Youtube Video
247 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:35:13pm

re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've dated her kind.
/

Me too...they're great until you wake up in the morning.

248 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:36:41pm

re: #247 darthstar

Me too...they're great until you wake up in the morning.

Just wake up and start drinking. Then wait for the "It's not you it's me" speech. Then keep drinking and order a pizza.:)

249 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:37:33pm

re: #236 darthstar

I'd be pissed too if Fox news showed up outside my doorstep looking for dirt. Fucking parasites.

A "group of conservatives" from Twitter were also harassing her. Not the Congressman.

At the time, a group of conservatives was monitoring Mr. Weiner’s Twitter activity, after noticing that he was sending messages to a woman from Tennessee.

That was the beginning of what the sleeper typed upthread. Trifecta of ick.

250 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:38:40pm

re: #225 jfxgillis

Um. Yeah. I just told you. Follow the memorandum river backwards.

Or, if that's too hard, just read the NYTimes article. It actually SAYS:

So the girl was in fact being harrassed. By a bunch of right-wing bloggers.

Doesn't matter where the allegations come from, at this point, we have to treat them as at least plausible until proven otherwise. Anything else is to give Weiner the benefit of the doubt, something that he proved he's not worthy of at this point.

And before you start the "but right wing bloggers" bit, consider who initially broke this story.

251 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:38:54pm

re: #249 marjoriemoon

A "group of conservatives" from Twitter were also harassing her. Not the Congressman.

That was the beginning of what the sleeper typed upthread. Trifecta of ick.

Sounds very familiar. I've been targeted in a similar way, for years.

252 jfxgillis  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:39:08pm

re: #233 albusteve

wtf are you talking about?

Are you blind? The relevant passage has been quoted three times already.

Now four:

They also copied the girl on some of the messages they sent to him, so she sent Mr. Weiner a private message telling him that she felt she was being harassed. He apologized to herin a private message, and removed her from the list of people he followed on Twitter.

253 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:39:14pm

re: #249 marjoriemoon

A "group of conservatives" from Twitter were also harassing her. Not the Congressman.

That was the beginning of what the sleeper typed upthread. Trifecta of ick.

two words...
hazmat suit

254 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:39:19pm

re: #249 marjoriemoon

That was the beginning of what the sleeper typed upthread.

Woody Allen posts here ??
[Link: www.google.com...]

255 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:41:02pm

Harassing teenage girls? I guess I shouldn't expect much from the right wing blogosphere. The people who brought us the harassment of a young boy because he supported SCHIP.Weiner's an ass frankly but the right's self righteous indigestation is so dishonest considering their own past problems. No one party or ideology has a monopoly on being fucked up.

256 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:41:26pm

re: #252 jfxgillis

wtf are you talking about?

Are you blind? The relevant passage has been quoted three times already.

Now four:

re: #252 jfxgillis

wtf are you talking about?

Are you blind? The relevant passage has been quoted three times already.

Now four:

so what about it?...is this somehow profound?

257 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:41:27pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

As a matter of fact, so am I

I leave work in about 30 minutes

Theres a Quick trip right near here before I get on the highway home

2 weiners, $2.00

and BOY do I pay for them in the morning!!

{burp}

258 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:42:22pm

re: #257 sattv4u2

Just leave the money on the dresser?
/

259 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:42:30pm

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Harassing teenage girls? I guess I shouldn't expect much from the right wing blogosphere. The people who brought us the harassment of a young boy because he supported SCHIP.Weiner's an ass frankly but the right's self righteous indigestation is so dishonest considering their own past problems. No one party or ideology has a monopoly on being fucked up.

well said

260 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:42:48pm

re: #258 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just leave the money on the dresser?
/

I prefer to UNdresser

261 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:43:27pm
262 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:43:44pm

re: #260 sattv4u2

I prefer to UNdresser

remember the Uncola?
neither do I

263 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:43:52pm

re: #217 Kid A

For the hockey fans, a Texan's report on tonight's game.

I've spent my entire life so far not giving a measurable quantity of fuck about sports in general, but I can actually watch a hockey game now and again. I was also rather inexplicably entranced by women's water polo during the most recent Olympics.

Nevertheless, I don't know jack shit about any of the teams or players; I don't care who wins; and I FOR BOB-DAMN-SURE don't care who gets traded to what team, or who gets what contract, or whatever. A guy at work listens to a popular Dallas sports radio station called "The Ticket", and all they talk about is that kind of crap. It's just TMZ-style celebrity gossip, with jocks as the focus.

Attention men who pay attention to sports: You are exactly the same as the people who pay attention to soap operas. This is what obsessive male sports talk sounds like to my ears:

Jack's surprised when "A-Rod" agrees to have hs photo taken with one of his fans and then announces to the country club dining room guests that he's buying everyone lunch. Jack asks him why he's been acting so strangely since he returned from his kidnaping ordeal. Coach Jane intercedes and insists it's nothing, so Jack suggests he get some professional help. Jane finally claims that Jack's the problem.

264 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:44:55pm

re: #262 albusteve

remember the Uncola?
neither do I

That actually was a fairly good 9an effective) ad campaign

I pick up a bottle of it every now and then

Not bad

265 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:45:02pm

re: #262 albusteve

remember the Uncola?
neither do I

7-Up.
Remember TAB?
GAK!!!

266 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:46:11pm

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

7-Up.
Remember TAB?
GAK!!!

RC?

267 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:46:20pm

re: #264 sattv4u2

That actually was a fairly good 9(anD effective) ad campaign

I pick up a bottle of it every now and then

Not bad

damn, i's tired!

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:46:46pm

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

RC?

RC and Moonpies!! Why do people hate America!!!

269 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:46:52pm

re: #263 negativ

I've spent my entire life so far not giving a measurable quantity of fuck about sports in general, but I can actually watch a hockey game now and again. I was also rather inexplicably entranced by women's water polo during the most recent Olympics.

Nevertheless, I don't know jack shit about any of the teams or players; I don't care who wins; and I FOR BOB-DAMN-SURE don't care who gets traded to what team, or who gets what contract, or whatever. A guy at work listens to a popular Dallas sports radio station called "The Ticket", and all they talk about is that kind of crap. It's just TMZ-style celebrity gossip, with jocks as the focus.

Attention men who pay attention to sports: You are exactly the same as the people who pay attention to soap operas. This is what obsessive male sports talk sounds like to my ears:

booo
booo
soap operas are phony...didn't you know they are not real?

270 Targetpractice  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:47:01pm

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

RC?

And a MoonPie?

271 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:48:07pm

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

7-Up.
Remember TAB?
GAK!!!

I grew up with O-So-Good and Dad's Rootbeer

272 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:48:41pm

re: #261 MikeySDCA

Everybody, including Charles, seems to be all hot because the girl is under the age of consent. If morality is to be judged by local statute, let us check it out.
Worldwide Ages of Consent

In Texas, you can get [straight!] married legally at age 14 so long as you have parental consent or a court order.

I can't decide which is more horrifying: parents green-lighting their 14 year-old getting married, or a court order decreeing the same.

273 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:49:00pm

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

7-Up.
Remember TAB?
GAK!!!

A soft-drink named after a hit of acid. The early 70s were cool.

274 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:49:19pm

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

7-Up.
Remember TAB?
GAK!!!

I always thought Mr. Pibb was better than Dr. Pepper.

275 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:49:46pm

re: #274 negativ

I always thought Mr. Pibb was better than Dr. Pepper.

Mr. Pibb is still good.

276 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:50:15pm

re: #273 darthstar

A soft-drink named after a hit of acid. The early 70s were cool.

the tab was simply the method of delivery

277 jaunte  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:50:28pm

re: #273 darthstar

It's still around: [Link: www.virtualvender.coca-cola.com...]

278 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:50:44pm

re: #263 negativ

I'm a big fan of sports, but it's just entertainment, though I love the competition. There are a few hockey lovers here that were watching the game, and I wanted to have some fun with it.

279 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:50:51pm

re: #277 jaunte

It's still around: [Link: www.virtualvender.coca-cola.com...]

Yep...and Fresca, too. I love Fresca.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:53:21pm

re: #278 Kid A

I'm a big fan of sports, but it's just entertainment, though I love the competition. There are a few hockey lovers here that were watching the game, and I wanted to have some fun with it.

I love hockey. Didn't see snow until I was 30. Snow sucks.

281 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:53:21pm

re: #279 darthstar

Yep...and Fresca, too. I love Fresca.

Yikes! Doesn't that still have saccharin in it?

282 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:54:31pm

re: #281 marjoriemoon

Yikes! Doesn't that still have saccharin in it?

My mom's neighbors have been drinking saccharin for 45 plus years. It'll be OK.

283 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:54:36pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

(with 2 for $2.00 Quick Trip weiners in hand)

284 jaunte  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:55:10pm

re: #281 marjoriemoon

According to dad, you can use saccharin at least to age 88.

285 darthstar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:56:13pm

re: #283 sattv4u2

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

(with 2 for $2.00 Quick Trip weiners in hand)

Don't grip them too tightly...you'll lose them just like Breitbart did.

286 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:56:51pm

re: #282 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #284 jaunte

LOL!

Yea, but bleechhhh.

287 jaunte  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:56:52pm

re: #283 sattv4u2


No photos, please.

288 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:56:53pm

re: #280 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love hockey. Didn't see snow until I was 30. Snow sucks.

hockey is our last link to our Neanderthal cousins...instead of mastadon ribs they have learned to make their own sticks, and it only took 4 million years...
EVOLUTION!....
hockey is for the apelike among us

289 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:58:19pm

King Kong...
the ultimate goalie

290 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:58:48pm

re: #280 Cannadian Club Akbar

Snow sucks.

False. Where I am, it's almost 11pm, and it;s 90F outside. I want snow, and lots of it.

291 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 8:59:36pm

re: #288 albusteve

Evolution is a conspiracy invented by God deniers. Jeez...
//:

292 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:00:18pm

Hasa Diga Eebowai

Youtube Video

Namaste,y'all
293 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:00:45pm

re: #291 Kid A

Evolution is a conspiracy invented by God deniers. Jeez...
//:

re: #291 Kid A

Evolution is a conspiracy invented by God deniers. Jeez...
//:

I hate hockey almost as much as I hate the IRS

294 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:01:41pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

Hasa Diga Eebowai

I Believe

Youtube Video
295 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:01:41pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

Hasa Diga Eebowai

[Video]
Namaste,y'all

Oh yeah, NSFW

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:01:45pm

re: #293 albusteve

re: #291 Kid A

I hate hockey almost as much as I hate the IRS

In hockey, you get beat over the head less.

297 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:05:03pm

re: #291 Kid A

Evolution is a conspiracy invented by God deniers. Jeez...
//:

Church Cancelled Due to Lack of God

Parishioners of Pastor Theo Leobald’s First Congregational Church of Holy Christ In Heaven will not meet next Sunday morning for a coffee social and morning Bible study as they do every week, gathering in fellowship and offering thanks and praise to God on high. The reason for the cancellation? Simply the fact that, according to Leobald, God does not now, has never, and will never exist.

When asked why he is convinced of God’s nonexistence, Leobald became visibly irritated with reporters.

“What’re you, an illiterate peasant? Aren’t you familiar with 20th century thinking at all? Christ, read a book, or maybe just think about the idea for a minute. Pretty ridiculous, huh?” he said.

298 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:05:11pm

re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar

In hockey, you get beat over the head less.

I hate hockey so much, I've decided to move it up 2 spots on my Ten Most Hated List....closing in on Palin for inanity

299 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:06:47pm
...@RepWeiner new pal is a high school girl. First porn actresses now little girls. Weird.”

They also copied the girl on some of the messages they sent to him, so she sent Mr. Weiner a private message telling him that she felt she was being harassed....

If they were after Weiner, there was no reason to bother her. This was about titillation and shaming a woman for her affiliations.

300 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:07:29pm

Casey Jones
drivin that train

Youtube Video
301 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:08:26pm

re: #299 The Ghost of a Flea

If they were after Weiner, there was no reason to bother her. This was about titillation and shaming a woman for her affiliations.

I call them collateral victims....nothing personal

302 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:09:25pm

re: #300 albusteve

Casey Jones
drivin that train

[Video]

Davie Jones
Daydream Believer

Youtube Video
303 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:10:21pm

re: #302 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Davie Jones
Daydream Believer

[Video]

I think we have a theme here

304 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:11:39pm

Alrighty. Been a fun night. See ya'll in the morning.

305 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:11:48pm

re: #303 albusteve

I think we have a theme here

Thats not unusual...

Youtube Video
306 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:12:36pm

re: #297 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Church Cancelled Due to Lack of God

You're quite the trouble maker, you are! lol

307 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:13:07pm

re: #305 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats not unusual...

[Video]

gag me...I'm actually insulted
you should apologize

308 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:13:39pm

re: #302 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Davie Jones
Daydream Believer

[Video]

The Monkees?

Youtube Video
309 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:16:58pm

re: #307 albusteve

gag me...I'm actually insulted
you should apologize

Sorry

Youtube Video
310 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:17:05pm

re: #307 albusteve

gag me...I'm actually insulted
you should apologize


Hi Steve. I hope you're well. I hope you're not still mad at me.

311 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:20:24pm

re: #305 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats not unusual...

[Video]

No, the meme's right here, right now:

Youtube Video
312 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:22:28pm

re: #309 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sorry

[Video]

I'm good with Merle...he was a real pirate, that guy

313 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:24:59pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

No, the meme's right here, right now:

[Video]

I've been waiting to see if you showed up...I really blew my top the other night and I apologize...I was not cool at all

314 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:26:13pm

re: #311 Dark_Falcon

No, the meme's right here, right now:

[Video]

Not the bell's of St Mary?

Youtube Video
315 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:29:07pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Not the bell's of St Mary?

[Video]

how about some monks groaning in Latin?....you know, Friday night stuff

316 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:31:27pm

re: #313 albusteve

I've been waiting to see if you showed up...I really blew my top the other night and I apologize...I was not cool at all

Apology accepted. I know what its like to blow your top. Thank you.

317 albusteve  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:36:14pm

Mills Bros
Mr Sandman

Youtube Video
318 emcesq  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:39:46pm

This Wiener guy, whom I never heard of him until now, he makes a nice balance to the ultras on the other side, don't you think? Right along with the disgraced NY Atty Gen and others.

319 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:43:39pm

re: #318 emcesq

This Wiener guy, whom I never heard of him until now, he makes a nice balance to the ultras on the other side, don't you think? Right along with the disgraced NY Atty Gen and others.

The problem is that Spitzer was also a Democrat. Sex scandals know no party. This is just the latest in a long line of congressional sex follies.

320 emcesq  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:46:15pm

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

So why is everybody so surprised? There are a-holes on both sides. They just compete who is bigger.

321 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:47:39pm

re: #308 ausador

The Monkees?

[Video]

Mike Nesmith gives Frank Zappa a music lesson. OR DOES HE?

Youtube Video
322 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:48:03pm

Woomp. Clunk. Pow!

Sorry, I'll pay for that.

Evening.

323 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:49:42pm

There's a man on the wing of the plane!

324 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:54:20pm

re: #323 Gus 802

There's a man on the wing of the plane!

Youtube Video
325 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:54:50pm

Don't touch that. OK. It's down here...re: #324 negativ

[Video]

We must save him!

326 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:55:23pm

So, we've been having problems with our refrigerator lately. Called our landlord this morning to ask someone to take a look at it. He called back 5 minutes later to say they were supposed to drop a new one at my neighbor's place, but no one was home, so he dropped it off out our place. So we got a brand new fridge.

327 ElCapitanAmerica  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:56:02pm

Bloggers digging for girls tweets and releasing too much information;

[Link: patterico.com...]

Is it really necessary to post embarrassing tweets from a minor? I'm surprised they haven't released her real twitter name, but this moron above posted a partial picture from his twitter profile ! :-/

328 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:57:23pm

re: #301 albusteve

I call them collateral victims...nothing personal

Mm. I'm not sure they're really collateral if you mean it in the sense of "incidentally harmed because of proximity." It's more like they become fair game because of their affiliations. People who do this kind of thing get off on it...they really don't need a lot of justification: they're looking for excuses to vent frustrations and be ugly.

There's a gender component to this as well, I think. A component of real-world sexism is that women are often socially marked by their affilations...even glancing, casual ones...with men outside their family unit. And once given a marked status, a woman becomes an "acceptable" target for harassment, prurient speculation, and the male gaze in all it's varieties.

329 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:57:32pm

re: #326 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, we've been having problems with our refrigerator lately. Called our landlord this morning to ask someone to take a look at it. He called back 5 minutes later to say they were supposed to drop a new one at my neighbor's place, but no one was home, so he dropped it off out our place. So we got a brand new fridge.

That sounds nice.

330 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 9:58:31pm

Was looking at some appliances this afternoon. These look nice...

[Link: www.monogram.com...]

331 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:03:58pm

I can hear toads in the distance. KT must be down there somewhere. Now where's my flashlight?

332 freetoken  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:03:59pm

re: #330 Gus 802

I'm highly suspicious of the glass door models. Not only do I wonder about the energy efficiency, but there is the possibility of the photosynthesis given the entrance of light, no?

I take it the move is complete, and that you're now settled in? I haven't kept up with your state, IIRC you got a job out here.

333 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:04:07pm

re: #327 ElCapitanAmerica

Is it really necessary to post embarrassing tweets from a minor? I'm surprised they haven't released her real twitter name, but this moron above posted a partial picture from his twitter profile ! :-/

Prurience.

Actually, I'll just go there and say that a lot of these "concerned and interested" investigators are very turned on by this 17-year-old thing.

334 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:06:33pm

re: #332 freetoken

I'm highly suspicious of the glass door models. Not only do I wonder about the energy efficiency, but there is the possibility of the photosynthesis given the entrance of light, no?

I take it the move is complete, and that you're now settled in? I haven't kept up with your state, IIRC you got a job out here.

Was thinking that it looks like a great beverage fridge. Be great for a bar or cafe set-up.

Nah. Not moved in yet. I'm still rambling man here. No job yet but I do have an invoice in from work I did here for Denver. D'oh!

335 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:08:56pm

Hmmm. Updating the firmware on this wireless card worked well.

336 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:10:04pm

And to psycho wingnut Bryan Fischer, who consistently gets his history of the Nazis wrong, I offer this. The Simon Wiesenthal Center has found the original copy of a letter typed by Hitler himself from 1919 detailing his obsessive hate of the Jews. This letter predates Hitler becoming a Nazi. So its clear that he pushed the Nazis in a even more radical direction than they otherwise might have gone. No gayness involved, just insight into a very sick mind.

337 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:11:51pm

Momma and baby deer.

Took that with my old little Canon A40.

But that's one mother around here. There's another with two. I actually saw this one with two in the beginning. The other could have died which is not uncommon for deer.

338 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:14:55pm

re: #337 Gus 802

Momma and baby deer.

Took that with my old little Canon A40.

But that's one mother around here. There's another with two. I actually saw this one with two in the beginning. The other could have died which is not uncommon for deer.

Pretty deers.

339 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:16:01pm

re: #332 freetoken

Photosynthesis inside a fridge? I'd be more concerned about fenestration.

340 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:16:14pm

re: #327 ElCapitanAmerica

Bloggers digging for girls tweets and releasing too much information;

[Link: patterico.com...]

Is it really necessary to post embarrassing tweets from a minor? I'm surprised they haven't released her real twitter name, but this moron above posted a partial picture from his twitter profile ! :-/

oh please. of course it's necessary to them, horny and/or bored bloggers looking for a titillating bon mot, that is the internet, right there

I am now just enjoying the squirming embarrassment of New York, awesome

341 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:16:19pm

re: #331 Gus 802

I can hear toads in the distance.

I think they're calling our name. Maybe now you can't hear them, but you will (haha), if you just take hold of my hand.

342 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:16:26pm

re: #338 SanFranciscoZionist

Pretty deers.

Yeah, they are rather healthy. Both mothers are well fed. The one with two is the bigger of them. She kind of spooks me a tiny bit. You know. She'll be naturally defensive.

343 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:17:22pm

re: #342 Gus 802

Yeah, they are rather healthy. Both mothers are well fed. The one with two is the bigger of them. She kind of spooks me a tiny bit. You know. She'll be naturally defensive.

Oops. Not "well fed". But they graze for themselves rather well more or less.

344 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:19:13pm

Anyone else see this?

Tenn. law bans posting images that "cause emotional distress"

345 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:19:59pm

I'm fading and need to get to bed. Goodnight, all.

346 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:20:17pm

re: #263 negativ

oh yeah sports talk= soap opera, same stuff, i'd rather write my own stories than get caught up in some rich ballplayer's story, ya know?


The only sports I really get into anymore, are the olympics, and those mostly because I have an excuse to sorta get into the pageantry of it without having to follow it year to year, and the individual stories of competitors, and also I like the (relative) lack of multi-quadzillion-dollar entitlement of pro sports


Also, our snowboarders rock :D

347 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:20:50pm

re: #344 Gus 802

Anyone else see this?

Tenn. law bans posting images that "cause emotional distress"

GOATSE

and yeah

348 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:21:39pm

re: #341 negativ

Youtube Video
349 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:21:47pm

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

I'm fading and need to get to bed. Goodnight, all.

Later DF. You'll be glad to know that I was talking with someone here slamming the Daleys. [-)

350 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:22:43pm

re: #347 WindUpBird

GOATSE

and yeah

That man posted something that disturbed me! Arrest him at once officer!

//

351 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:22:57pm

re: #344 Gus 802

That law is dead as soon as the first lawsuit reaches the Supreme Court. They should make the entire legislature do a task by writing the 1st Amendment 500 times.

352 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:26:46pm

re: #344 Gus 802

Anyone else see this?

Tenn. law bans posting images that "cause emotional distress"

So we can report right to lifers for posting some of their more disgusting posters?

353 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:27:03pm

re: #351 Mich-again

That law is dead as soon as the first lawsuit reaches the Supreme Court. They should make the entire legislature do a task by writing the 1st Amendment 500 times.

Or that it might not even make the SCOTUS and get shot down by a district or Federal court. SCOTUS will then refuse to hear it holding up the previous strike down. ;)

354 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:27:31pm

re: #352 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So we can report right to lifers for posting some of their more disgusting posters?

Aha! Wonder if they thought about that. This outta be good.

355 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:27:52pm

The SOCON Keystone Cops routine.

356 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:29:04pm

re: #354 Gus 802

Aha! Wonder if they thought about that. This outta be good.

Thinking ain't high on their "to do" list.

357 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:37:30pm

howdy folks!

358 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:37:41pm

re: #356 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thinking ain't high on their "to do" list.

Good one.

359 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:43:53pm

lol @ buck: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

360 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:44:35pm

Got my hooch ready.

361 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:45:30pm

re: #357 Alaska Kim

howdy folks!

Good evening. -Jesus

362 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:46:33pm

re: #361 Kid A

Good evening. -Jesus

Jesus built my hot rod...

363 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:46:49pm

re: #359 WindUpBird

Hid? Coulda sworn Faux ran it one thousand times.

364 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:47:39pm

re: #362 Gus 802

Jesus built my hot rod...

BAM!

Youtube Video
365 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:49:07pm

re: #364 Kid A

BAM!

[Video]

Thanks.

And coming up next on our Ministry countdown...

366 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:49:44pm

re: #362 Gus 802

Jesus built my hot rod...

Jesus knows the value of having clean balls.

Youtube Video
367 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:50:24pm

re: #366 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Jesus knows the value of having clean balls.

[Video]

Now I'm stumped.

//

368 [deleted]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:50:39pm
369 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:50:57pm

re: #365 Gus 802

New World Order! Live!

Youtube Video
370 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:51:46pm

re: #369 Kid A

New World Order! Live!

[Video]

Oh man. I need to get my sound back up. That and something more than 5Gs a month. Can't complain though.

371 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:52:41pm

re: #370 Gus 802

Brings back memories from #'s in Houston years ago.

372 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:53:14pm

They have Fat Tire ales here for 2.99. And cigs are 4.75. It's like the black hole of California. ;)

373 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:53:44pm

re: #368 Alaska Kim

where has mandymanners been lately?

She got banned when I was at Burning Man last year for being a racist cretin

Sadly, I was frolicing in the desert so I missed all the fun, Windsagio filled me in

Good riddance to bad rubbish and her imaginary kid

374 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:54:07pm

re: #372 Gus 802

They have Fat Tire ales here for 2.99. And cigs are 4.75. It's like the black hole of California. ;)

Lucky ass. Lung rockets here are $8. Redbirds run me $4.25 a pint.

375 bratwurst  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:54:13pm

re: #359 WindUpBird

lol @ buck: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Speaking of laughing out loud, I was literally in tears reviewing the all caps descriptions of your dark skinned lovers the other day!

376 Kronocide  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:54:50pm

Sock

377 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:55:05pm

re: #352 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So we can report right to lifers for posting some of their more disgusting posters?

Tennessee bans the internet, film at 11

378 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:55:13pm

re: #376 BigPapa

Sock

Not for real, at any rate.

379 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:55:30pm

re: #373 WindUpBird

imaginary kid??

380 Summer Lovin' Torture Party  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:56:43pm

re: #377 WindUpBird

Tennessee bans the internet, film at 11

Lol. You said "film"

Regards,

Digital.

381 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:57:43pm

re: #374 Kid A

Lucky ass. Lung rockets here are $8. Redbirds run me $4.25 a pint.

Gadzooks! But, I'm almost down to around 3/4 pack a day.

382 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:58:04pm

re: #380 Kid A

Lol. You said "film"

Regards,

Digital.

Tennessee hasn't gone digital yet.

383 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:58:34pm

re: #372 Gus 802

cigs here are $8.50 a pack, gas is 4.40 a gallon.

384 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:58:36pm

People should say gadzooks more.

Image: daley_mayor.jpg

385 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:59:09pm

re: #383 Alaska Kim

cigs here are $8.50 a pack, gas is 4.40 a gallon.

Bet I can find some place where they sell them for 5!

386 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:59:57pm

re: #385 Gus 802

not here in Juneau.

387 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 10:59:58pm

hooch

a hut or simple dwelling, either military or civilian. Also spelled hootch.

388 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:00:03pm

re: #375 bratwurst

Speaking of laughing out loud, I was literally in tears reviewing the all caps descriptions of your dark skinned lovers the other day!


THAT REMINDS ME OF THE SLENDER OFFICER OF THE GALACTIC CIRCUMSTANCES DIVISION OF THE SHELLWORLD QUORTHON-AB-VYXCXOR I WAS ONCE IN RAPPORT WITH


HIS LIPS AS SUPPLE AND FINE AS THE FINEST FINE LINGUINI, FOR HE WAS A GENTLEMAN SQUID WHO WALKED UPRIGHT AND HAD EVOLVED PAST NEED OF THE OCEANS DEPTHS

I RECALL HE HAD A BUSHY MANE OF RED HAIR, LIKE THE PUREST FLAME, BUT I THINK IT WAS HAIRPLUGS BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THE QUORTHON-SQUID-RACE HAVING HAIR AS A RULE

HIS GUNDAM WAS AN MSM-O3 AMPHIBIOUS GOGG

HOW I MISS OUR LONG WALKS ON THE BEACH

HE WOULD POINT AT A SPOT IN THE OCEAN, AND SAY THERE. I COME FROM THERE

389 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:00:44pm

re: #386 Alaska Kim

not here in Juneau.

Maybe not. Now with Alaska I can see that. Long hauls for sure.

390 Kragar  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:01:13pm

re: #387 Gus 802

hooch

a hut or simple dwelling, either military or civilian. Also spelled hootch.

Hooch.

391 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:01:53pm

re: #389 Gus 802

no, the city taxes the shit out of cigs and booze.

392 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:02:24pm

re: #390 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hooch.

Oh yeah that guy from Bosom Buddies.

Hey Stewie come take a look at this.

393 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:03:29pm

re: #391 Alaska Kim

no, the city taxes the shit out of cigs and booze.

Right. Then like I said. I'm sure once you're outside of Juneau you could easily avoid that.

394 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:04:07pm

re: #379 Alaska Kim

well, imaginary, or perhaps simply theoretical

it kept changing ages, back and forth, schrodinger's kid

maybe it was real, and had talents to bend time, like benjamin button with a VCR remote. MAKE HIM FIVE TODAY, I'M TIRED OF HIS PLAYSTATION CRAP


i don't expect you to follow this, they probably don't have theoretical age-reversing child experiments in Alaska, I hear it's mostly just biplanes and polar bears and lumberjacks on mooseback up there

395 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:04:44pm

I actually do ponder living in Alaska sometimes.

396 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:05:22pm

re: #386 Alaska Kim

not here in Juneau.

did you know there was a video game based on Juneau?

Youtube Video

that town must be FUCKED UP, pod people with lazers all over, run for your lives

397 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:05:27pm

re: #394 WindUpBird

you heard wrong!

398 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:07:21pm

You know I just realized that I'm one small mountain range away from the Pacific.re: #396 WindUpBird

did you know there was a video game based on Juneau?

[Video]that town must be FUCKED UP, pod people with lazers all over, run for your lives

Oh man this is funny: pod people with lazers all over.

399 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:07:42pm

re: #395 Gus 802

I actually do ponder living in Alaska sometimes.

I'm too prone to SAD.

Also, I would have to have a really, really good reason to leave Northern California.

Better than, "It costs a fortune to live here."

400 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:07:55pm

re: #395 Gus 802

couldn't do it, no musicians to play with


knew a musician friend (more friend of a friend) who lived in Juneau and went batty for having no community to start a metal project with, he eventually moved back with his wife to Tacoma, and of course immediately started a band when he got back :D

401 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:07:59pm

re: #396 WindUpBird

no, but is legal to carry concealed weapons... no permits here... i pack heat in my truck.

402 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:10:11pm

re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm too prone to SAD.

Also, I would have to have a really, really good reason to leave Northern California.

Better than, "It costs a fortune to live here."

Oh jeez that's too good SFZ. It really does cost a small fortune to live here. No one has to go anywhere either. Although Alaska is way more expensive than even most of California.

403 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:10:35pm

re: #401 Alaska Kim

I'm not sure why one would brag about feeling unsafe in their environment, but hey, whatever works for you, some people like jumping out of planes

404 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:10:39pm

Hey all!

Anyone awake?

405 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:12:14pm

re: #383 Alaska Kim

cigs here are $8.50 a pack, gas is 4.40 a gallon.

You live in Chicago??

406 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:14:20pm

re: #404 ggt

Hey all!

Anyone awake?

I am. Dunno for how long. Two job interviews today. I'm wrecked.

407 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:14:21pm

re: #403 WindUpBird

I was charged by a black bear the other day. good enuf reason???

408 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:15:14pm

re: #405 ggt

couldn't pay me to live there!

409 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:15:17pm

re: #404 ggt

Hey all!

Anyone awake?

Barely. There's a tiny moth on my screen.

410 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:18:40pm

I really have no comment on Weiner. Honestly.

411 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:18:45pm

from my new linky

NPR's article on research that shows powerful people more likely to be unfaithful.

Volunteers with the power believed their lab partners were acting in sexual ways even when they were not, Maner said. In other words, when you say "hello" to someone, an ordinary person thinks you said hello. A powerful person thinks you meant helllloooooo.

linkee workee, I tested it this time. :)

412 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:19:14pm

re: #406 SanFranciscoZionist

I am. Dunno for how long. Two job interviews today. I'm wrecked.

eeeek!

413 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:19:29pm

re: #409 Gus 802

Barely. There's a tiny moth on my screen.

how tiny?

414 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:19:42pm

Weiner ranks 0.01 on my Give a Shit Scale.

Smiley face!

415 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:20:00pm

re: #414 Gus 802

Weiner ranks 0.01 on my Give a Shit Scale.

Smiley face!

right after Palin?

416 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:20:09pm

re: #413 ggt

how tiny?

1/4 inch. Maybe 3/16.

417 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:20:16pm

re: #410 Gus 802

I really have no comment on Weiner. Honestly.

These guys blow my mind. That's about it.

Seriously? You're in Congress, and you're pulling shit like this? From what planet does this mentality come?

418 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:20:30pm

re: #415 ggt

right after Palin?

And Anne Coulter...

419 ozbloke  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:21:00pm

re: #407 Alaska Kim

I was charged by a black bear the other day. good enuf reason???

Well if you live in the wild, you must obey the laws of the wild.
I suggest you pay the fine.

420 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:21:16pm

re: #417 SanFranciscoZionist

These guys blow my mind. That's about it.

Seriously? You're in Congress, and you're pulling shit like this? From what planet does this mentality come?

From planet America.

421 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:21:48pm

re: #418 Gus 802

And Anne Coulter...

the Skanky One?

Geez, she creeps me out.

422 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:21:57pm

re: #419 ozbloke

'pay the fine'?

423 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:22:33pm

re: #421 ggt

the Skanky One?

Geez, she creeps me out.

I'm used to shit from Coulter.

424 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:23:14pm

re: #420 Gus 802

From planet America.

Oh, come on. The president of South Africa got caught with his pants down last year, and he already had three wives. This is beyond American stupidity. It speaks to some basic human dumbness that transcends nation-states.

425 ozbloke  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:24:19pm

re: #422 Alaska Kim

'pay the fine'?

Yes, you said you were 'charged by a black bear'.

426 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:25:30pm

re: #424 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, come on. The president of South Africa got caught with his pants down last year, and he already had three wives. This is beyond American stupidity. It speaks to some basic human dumbness that transcends nation-states.

The only thing I can think of is that Weiner got sucked into the hedonistic aspect of Twitter and internet photos. Which of course means he was already predisposed of this all. I never really saw him as an example of perfection.

427 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:26:38pm

re: #426 Gus 802

The only thing I can think of is that Weiner got sucked into the hedonistic aspect of Twitter and internet photos. Which of course means he was already predisposed of this all. I never really saw him as an example of perfection.

I didn't have any strong feelings about him. Until now. Now I have strong feelings.

428 Alaska Kim  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:26:41pm

re: #425 ozbloke

yeah, i'll suggest that to you when one is on the war path and is headed straight for you!

429 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:27:58pm

re: #427 SanFranciscoZionist

I didn't have any strong feelings about him. Until now. Now I have strong feelings.

I don't. I find him easy to ignore even now.

430 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:29:58pm

Cripes. Was looking at the moon. We should already be mining the moon by now. With rocket trips on a monthly basis.

431 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:30:11pm

This Weiner thing accompanied by the NPR article really has me thinking. Who are these women who are so eager to sext or otherwise engage themselves with a married man.

It does take two. There is no evidence that he coered any of them.

432 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:30:18pm

re: #425 ozbloke

Yes, you said you were 'charged by a black bear'.

Don't try to pun. It won't work.

433 ozbloke  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:30:28pm

re: #428 Alaska Kim

yeah, i'll suggest that to you when one is on the war path and is headed straight for you!

I ain't afraid of bears, whats the worst he could do, piss on me and scratch?

434 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:30:33pm

re: #430 Gus 802

Cripes. Was looking at the moon. We should already be mining the moon by now. With rocket trips on a monthly basis.

Gold Plated Latinum!!!!

435 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:31:26pm

re: #434 ggt

Gold Plated Latinum!!!

Titanium for our SR-71s...no wait...

436 ozbloke  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:31:28pm

re: #432 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't try to pun. It won't work.

Yeah, thought she might be grateful for a bit of humor coming her way.

437 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:31:33pm

re: #431 ggt

This Weiner thing accompanied by the NPR article really has me thinking. Who are these women who are so eager to sext or otherwise engage themselves with a married man.

It does take two. There is no evidence that he coered any of them.

I haven't got a clue why a person would get into this sort of thing. Flirting online was never my thing. I mean my husband and I did the whole IM thing when we were first dating, but I knew who he was.

438 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:32:46pm

re: #433 ozbloke

I ain't afraid of bears, whats the worst he could do, piss on me and scratch?

Awww. Cute.

Ours are a tad more aggressive. Black bears not usually very so, but if they've got babies, or are feeling threatened they can be feisty. Also, they like trash cans.

439 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:32:46pm

re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist

I haven't got a clue why a person would get into this sort of thing. Flirting online was never my thing. I mean my husband and I did the whole IM thing when we were first dating, but I knew who he was.

Perhaps those in power are prone to the "g-d complex" and those seeking to be with the powerful really, really need therapy.

440 Winny Spencer  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:33:08pm

Just watched Hardball.

"He's a good guy, by the way." - Chrissy on Mark Foley

441 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:33:14pm

re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist

I haven't got a clue why a person would get into this sort of thing. Flirting online was never my thing. I mean my husband and I did the whole IM thing when we were first dating, but I knew who he was.

This was more than flirting.

442 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:33:19pm

re: #438 SanFranciscoZionist

Awww. Cute.

Ours are a tad more aggressive. Black bears not usually very so, but if they've got babies, or are feeling threatened they can be feisty. Also, they like trash cans.

Bears are cute at a distance.

I should link a picture of a Chicago Bear, but I won't.

443 ozbloke  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:35:38pm

re: #438 SanFranciscoZionist

Awww. Cute.

Ours are a tad more aggressive. Black bears not usually very so, but if they've got babies, or are feeling threatened they can be feisty. Also, they like trash cans.

Koalas can be agressive, normally only if you try to take the out of their homes.
They growl, piss on you, and scratch. They do have sharp claws.

However, they are not known for aggression.

444 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:35:41pm

I know someone with a Rottweiler named "Bear". At nearly 100 lbs, they still call her "baby bear".

445 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:35:44pm

re: #442 ggt

Bears are cute at a distance.

I should link a picture of a Chicago Bear, but I won't.

I should link some photos that would give Zombie hives, but I won't.

446 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:36:12pm

re: #445 SanFranciscoZionist

I should link some photos that would give Zombie hives, but I won't.

Wait 'til Varek is here . ,:)

447 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:37:49pm

SFZ, tell about your potential jobs . . . .

448 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:39:45pm

re: #447 ggt

SFZ, tell about your potential jobs . . .

One would be coordinating a youth volunteer program for a local Jewish agency.

The other is a teaching job at an all-boys choir school--middle school aged kids.

Both of them seem OK.

449 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:41:34pm

Damn that train was loud.

450 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:41:40pm

re: #448 SanFranciscoZionist

One would be coordinating a youth volunteer program for a local Jewish agency.

The other is a teaching job at an all-boys choir school--middle school aged kids.

Both of them seem OK.

Both seem awful to me. I can't work with kids for more than 20 minutes without wanting to run screaming. They are toooo tough!

451 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:41:59pm

re: #449 Gus 802

Damn that train was loud.

didn't hear a thing. Have all the appliances going.

452 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:42:58pm

re: #451 ggt

didn't hear a thing. Have all the appliances going.

Don't tell me you're keeping your silverware humid and warm!

453 Gretchen G.Tiger  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:43:43pm

re: #452 Gus 802

Don't tell me you're keeping your silverware humid and warm!

No, just the socks and underwear.

454 Gus  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:49:07pm

Hasta later from the land of electro-motive.

455 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 10, 2011 11:50:41pm

I'd really prefer the volunteer coordinating thing, if I could get one of them. I could do another stretch of teaching at the right school, but I'm pretty much ready to move on.

456 RadicalModerate  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:00:28am

Looks like the inevitable finally happened. I'm guessing that something tipped off Stinky's keen senses?

Karma: -545

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457 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:00:52am

wow, Tracy Morgan, anti-gay slimeball [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

naturally, God is invoked, as usual for dullards

Someone get him together with Michael Richards and Gallagher, they can take their show on the road

458 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:01:49am

re: #457 WindUpBird

he doesn't condone violence, only hatred

Let's give him a hand!

459 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:02:15am

re: #456 RadicalModerate

Looks like the inevitable finally happened. I'm guessing that something tipped off Stinky's keen senses?

Huh. She was predictable and combative, but hardly the worst thing we've got around here.

460 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:03:21am

re: #456 RadicalModerate

she went down on the Juneau Game Grid, the MCP finally won

SHE WAS WORTH VERY FEW OF YOUR MAN YEARS

END OF LINE

461 RadicalModerate  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:05:11am

re: #459 SanFranciscoZionist

Huh. She was predictable and combative, but hardly the worst thing we've got around here.

Yeah, tonight's posts were really just goofy, which is why I think that some "tell" of being a sock might have finally merited the hammer.

462 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:19:39am

night all!

463 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:36:25am

re: #417 SanFranciscoZionist

These guys blow my mind. That's about it.

Seriously? You're in Congress, and you're pulling shit like this? From what planet does this mentality come?

The planet of New York, of course :D

464 freetoken  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:54:09am
MP3 Audio
465 freetoken  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 1:06:33am

genetics iz hard!

466 freetoken  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 2:14:37am
MP3 Audio
467 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 3:11:50am

MUSCLE IN PLASTIC

Youtube Video
468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 3:46:06am

This is sooo bizarre.

He must've really hated that tree.

469 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:00:29am

re: #468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This is sooo bizarre.

He must've really hated that tree.

If the police find him, they may want to axe him some questions.

470 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:00:51am

re: #468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Are you a fan of jazz?

471 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:02:45am

Oh, and good motning honcos.

472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:08:02am

re: #470 Obdicut

No. Unfortunately. I've tried... but have never been able to "get it". I can listen to it live.

Kind of like Apple products. I'll just never be hip enough for them.

473 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:12:10am

re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. Unfortunately. I've tried... but have never been able to "get it". I can listen to it live.

Kind of like Apple products. I'll just never be hip enough for them.

I'm a huge fan of apple crisp. And Apple Jacks.

474 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:14:17am

re: #472 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh well. I'm going to post this anyway, because I freaking love it.

Youtube Video
475 researchok  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:14:49am

Morning, all

476 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:15:32am

Oh, and this is a happy thing:

Kids are actually good at critical thinking if we just let them be.

477 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:18:05am

re: #474 Obdicut

So, obviously, you weren't asking my permission.
/
There are only a couple of Jazz pieces to which I can listen. "Take Six" being one of them.

478 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:19:15am

re: #477 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, obviously, you weren't asking my permission.
/
There are only a couple of Jazz pieces to which I can listen. "Take Six" being one of them.

I consider Sade as jazz, although not all songs are in the pure form.

479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:21:15am

re: #478 Cannadian Club Akbar

The meandering nature of Jazz leaves me hollow. Just doesn't fill me.

Frankly it's kind of embarrassing. Some of the brightest people I've known were Jazz music fans. I'm just not smart/hip/cool/deep enough to get it.

480 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:25:36am

re: #479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The meandering nature of Jazz leaves me hollow. Just doesn't fill me.

Frankly it's kind of embarrassing. Some of the brightest people I've known were Jazz music fans. I'm just not smart/hip/cool/deep enough to get it.

This is why you have an 8-track of the Starlite Vocal Band in the deck of your AMC Pacer.
/

481 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:26:20am

re: #479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm a pretty laid-back guy. I like taking things easy when I'm in relaxation mode, really getting down and lazy.

However, I cannot fucking stand Hawaiian music. something about it instantly sets me on edge. It is the most relaxing, innocent music in the world and it makes me tense and angry.

It stirreth up, rather than taming, the savage beast.

482 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:26:45am

re: #480 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, they were excellent. Not their fault their only hit was a novelty number.

483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:27:41am

re: #481 Obdicut

Bruddah Iz makes you tense? Or do you mean the Don Ho nonsense.

484 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:28:55am

re: #481 Obdicut

This is really cool...

Youtube Video
485 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:30:16am

re: #483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I dunno. Whatever they played at the Hawaiian restaurant up the street from me in SF.

My wife's still asleep; I'll check out the Bruddah Iz when she wakes up.

486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:34:31am

re: #485 Obdicut

Here's one for you when you're ready...

Bruddah Iz...

He died several years ago. Had super severe obesity problems; he was an Island institution. Never had the "Don Ho" kind of mainlander attraction. Kind of like Van Gogh... never appreciated until after he was de-composing.

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:37:21am

This is what made him famous to me...

488 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:41:57am

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This is what made him famous to me...

Posted in my 484. I heard this song on Coast to Coast AM. When they come back from a top of the hour/bottom of the hour break, they always play about 2 minutes of a song, unlike other shows that play 30 seconds so they don't have to pay royalties.

489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:43:45am

re: #488 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dude. You listen to Coast to Coast?

490 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:45:28am

re: #489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude. You listen to Coast to Coast?

I did when I was up at that hour, either up late or up early. It runs here from 11PM to 5AM.

491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:56:22am

re: #490 Cannadian Club Akbar

First time I heard it was late at night on AM radio. Picked up the signal from a town five hundred (or so) miles away. By the middle of the second caller I said, "Well; fuck this." and turned the radio off.

492 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 4:58:56am

re: #491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

First time I heard it was late at night on AM radio. Picked up the signal from a town five hundred (or so) miles away. By the middle of the second caller I said, "Well; fuck this." and turned the radio off.

They get quite the crazy people on the show. Black helicopters, aliens, shape shifters. But where else can you hear a guest with 2 doctorates talk about the civilization that lives in the middle of the earth?

493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:01:31am

re: #492 Cannadian Club Akbar

*click*

494 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:16:18am

re: #489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude. You listen to Coast to Coast?

THE WAVERIDER


where exactly can I get my pseudo-illuminati bible scholarship, my time-travelling wayfarer phone-in interviews, my chemtrail hysterics, my albino aliigator tracking service, if not Coast to Coast?

495 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:16:52am

re: #494 WindUpBird

*click*

496 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:17:46am

re: #494 WindUpBird

Thank you.

497 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:18:34am

re: #495 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*click*

I like weirdos! I like listening to them, I like hearing the crazy, it's good for the art :D


hell, i could probably deduct any radio I own as a business expense, were I to actually use a real honest to God radio at home

498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:18:41am

re: #496 Cannadian Club Akbar

*click*

499 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:20:12am

re: #496 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thank you.

I liked Art more than Norry, Norry's a little square

Art was a better broadcaster, always did it with a gleam in his eye. All hail Art' Bell's The Quickening!

Ever heard Phil Hendrie's parodies of Art Bell? So funny, so unbelievably funny

500 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:20:27am

re: #497 WindUpBird

Crazy people are fun as long as they are on my radio and not sitting next to me.

501 BongCrodny  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:21:33am

re: #498 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*click*


There's a lot of clicking going on here.

You might want to call a techie.

Government spies are everywhere.

502 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:22:09am

re: #499 WindUpBird

Never heard Hendrie do a Bell imitation, but loved his show. Freakin' people would call up and blow a gasket!! Dumb asses.

503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:22:12am

re: #492 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #494 WindUpBird

Maybe it's like jazz music and Steve Job's Apple products... I'm just not cool/hip/smart enough to get it.

504 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:22:24am

re: #500 Cannadian Club Akbar

Crazy people are fun as long as they are on my radio and not sitting next to me.

I disagree, I like talking to loons in person :D Some of the more cruddy dives I hang out at, you'll occasionally get a weapons-grade wacko at the bar, or just a really nice dude with some really awesome stratospheric conspiracy theories to his name

A guy who's a total sweetheart regular at a bar I hang out at, he's 100% convinced that lizard-people run the government.

505 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:24:39am

re: #502 Cannadian Club Akbar

Never heard Hendrie do a Bell imitation, but loved his show. Freakin' people would call up and blow a gasket!! Dumb asses.

His Art bell bits are SO FUNNY, you'd die laughing

His website with 15 years of archives, is $7 a month, best $7 a month i'll ever spend: [Link: www.philhendrieshow.com...]

506 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:24:42am

re: #504 WindUpBird

You know it's gonna be fun when a person first says "You might think I'm nuts, but" at the beginning of a conversation.

507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:24:43am

re: #501 BongCrodny

*click*

508 BongCrodny  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:25:07am

The right kind of Hawaiian music.re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*click*

509 BongCrodny  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:25:23am

Too early.

510 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:26:20am

re: #504 WindUpBird

I met a dude once in a bar who firmly believed that potatoes do not come from Idaho.

I remember thinking, "WTF?"

511 BongCrodny  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:26:39am

re: #507 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

*click*


Dude! You've only got two chambers left! Put it down before...

512 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:27:16am

re: #503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #494 WindUpBird

Maybe it's like jazz music and Steve Job's Apple products... I'm just not cool/hip/smart enough to get it.

hahah there's nothing hip about conspiracy wackos! They're all old guy shutins who are convinced A, B, or C are out to get them, there's always a contingent of them at any sci-fi con, and you could not find a less hip group

great conversation, though. "Really? The freemasons you say? That's so interesting!" Keep buying the drinks, oh the fun, it'll never end

513 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:28:30am

re: #505 WindUpBird

Had my sis in the car and Phil was playing the part of a guy that got caught cheating on his wife mid stride. The guy said his wife should go sit down in the living room and let him finish. And the next day he would buy her something nice to make up for it. My sister was SEETHING!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:28:33am

re: #508 BongCrodny

I flippin' love(d) Zevon.

515 hugh59  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:29:30am

re: #293 albusteve

re: #291 Kid A

I hate hockey almost as much as I hate the IRS

I am an end of thread hero, a Republican, a Jew, AND I work for a state's department of taxation. That is almost the IRS. Can you hate me too? Please? Please?

Oops...almost time for shul. Gotta run to synagogue with the wife. 3 hours of services. But, we get lunch at the end of it...and they serve hard liquor! I think I will have a double shot of whiskey. I am being so bad this Shabbat. Last night I changed the oil on my vintage VW Super Beetle. Now I am posting comments.

Good Shabbat to all of you!

516 BongCrodny  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:29:38am

About 30 years ago, my best friend once told me, in all sincerity, that it just didn't make sense for professional wrestling to be rigged.

He's gotten a bit smarter over the years and I've gotten a bit dumber, so it all works out.

517 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:30:10am

re: #513 Cannadian Club Akbar

Had my sis in the car and Phil was playing the part of a guy that got caught cheating on his wife mid stride. The guy said his wife should go sit down in the living room and let him finish. And the next day he would buy her something nice to make up for it. My sister was SEETHING!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

Was that the one where it ended up with the Hendrie character asserting that most women will forgive cheating for an order of pancakes?

518 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:30:57am

re: #514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I flippin' love(d) Zevon.

CALL THE ENVOY

519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:30:59am

re: #515 hugh59

My name is Hugh too.

520 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:31:52am

re: #515 hugh59

upding for super beetle, longtime watercooled VW owner here

521 hugh59  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:31:53am

re: #519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My name is Hugh too.

We are Hugh. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

522 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:32:14am

re: #519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
oh, I don't trust anyone named hugh

/

523 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:32:40am

re: #517 WindUpBird

Was that the one where it ended up with the Hendrie character asserting that most women will forgive cheating for an order of pancakes?

Don't remember exactly, but that sounds about right. I also remember when Ted of Beverly Hills was gonna give his chef a raise if he could take the chef's 16 y/o daughter to Belize or Costa Rica with him. Heh.

524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:34:06am

re: #522 Shropshire_Slasher

oh, I don't trust anyone named hugh/

Can't sez I blames ya.

525 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:34:09am

re: #521 hugh59

We are Hugh. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Kinda like an Old Navy ad....

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:35:13am

I have to get ready for the working...

527 BongCrodny  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:35:33am

re: #514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I flippin' love(d) Zevon.


No other musician has had the impact on me that Zevon's had. Maybe John Prine.

Zevon was pulp fiction.

528 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:36:15am

re: #523 Cannadian Club Akbar

Don't remember exactly, but that sounds about right. I also remember when Ted of Beverly Hills was gonna give his chef a raise if he could take the chef's 16 y/o daughter to Belize or Costa Rica with him. Heh.

TEDS

OF BEVERLY HILLS

STEAK HOUSE

COME On Dow-How-own


Right now, his new thing that I totally love is he's got Steve Bosell being manipulated by his evil liberal daughter, so Steve Bosell will argue with a caller, then he'll be "interrupted" and suddenly he'll as things like "My daughter wants to know if you've been drinking." "My daughters says you should hang up on this guy, Mister Hendrie." And his daughter's like, 11 and never actually is voiced by hendrie, just sorta makes her presence felt :D

529 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:37:21am

re: #527 BongCrodny

No other musician has had the impact on me that Zevon's had. Maybe John Prine.

Zevon was pulp fiction.

I would say Zevon is in my top five, the only musician who doesn't play some form of really heavy/experimental music that is


EVEN A DOG CAN SHAKE HANDS

530 hugh59  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:39:36am

re: #520 WindUpBird

upding for super beetle, longtime watercooled VW owner here

It was a real mess. The oil drain plate did not have the drain valve in the middle so I had to take the plate off to get the oil out. I put a new plate in with a drain valve...that will make the next oil change much easier. And that next oil change will probably be in a hundred miles or so...this engine is dirty and I have been very, very bad about caring for it.

This was my dad's car. I bright green (Ravenna Green) VW Super Beetle convertible.

Image: greeniegreen.jpg

531 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:40:27am

re: #528 WindUpBird

What was the name of the woman character he did? Can't remember her name or what her "expertise" was in.

532 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:42:32am

re: #530 hugh59

Very cool. There is a red 67ish Beetle down the road from where I work with a for sale sign on it. I'm afraid to ask how much they want for it.

533 BongCrodny  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:43:11am

re: #529 WindUpBird

I would say Zevon is in my top five, the only musician who doesn't play some form of really heavy/experimental music that is

EVEN A DOG CAN SHAKE HANDS


Love the song, and I'd put the title in my "5 favorite song titles of all time."

534 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:43:36am

re: #531 Cannadian Club Akbar

What was the name of the woman character he did? Can't remember her name or what her "expertise" was in.

there are several!

There's Bobby Dooley, the prissy conservative home-owner's association president who goes mmhmm a lot

There's Margaret Grey who's pretty hollywood-liberal, who has the kid who is in the acting biz, and the husband with "gender confusion"

There's Colleen Kristen Brewster, who he never does anymore, who's more of a cheery Amway chick

And there's Mavis Leonard, who's a black teacher, who is usually abusing kids or playing harmonica

535 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:44:53am

re: #534 WindUpBird

OK. I remember the first 2.

536 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:46:37am

re: #533 BongCrodny

Love the song, and I'd put the title in my "5 favorite song titles of all time."

it's up there :D I'm a fan of "Seminole Bingo" and "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner"


if you made Warren Zevon a nerd obsessed with comic books and magic and heavy metal, you'd probably have Monster Magnet


Youtube Video
537 hugh59  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:48:04am

re: #532 Cannadian Club Akbar

Very cool. There is a red 67ish Beetle down the road from where I work with a for sale sign on it. I'm afraid to ask how much they want for it.

Probably no more than $10K. Maybe even $4K to $6K. But if you had it, you would be the one of the only people in your town with a car that would work after a nuclear war or a giant solar flare (that burns out all the computers in newer cars).

Leaving for shul now. Good Shabbat everyone!

538 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:50:02am

re: #537 hugh59

Probably no more than $10K. Maybe even $4K to $6K. But if you had it, you would be the one of the only people in your town with a car that would work after a nuclear war or a giant solar flare (that burns out all the computers in newer cars).

Leaving for shul now. Good Shabbat everyone!

Not my town. My town is full of 70's beetles, microbuses, squarebacks, volvo amazons, 70's trans ams...

539 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 5:52:16am

re: #538 WindUpBird

Not my town. My town is full of 70's beetles, microbuses, squarebacks, volvo amazons, 70's trans ams...

Looks like I picked the wrong town to sell pot in.
/

540 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:05:07am

re: #539 Cannadian Club Akbar

Looks like I picked the wrong town to sell pot in.
/

Man, Portland is truly a fruitless town to sell pot in, market is so glutted with homegrowers you have no idea

We used to have hydroponics warehouses buying ad time on radio stations here :D

541 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:09:20am

re: #540 WindUpBird

We have meth labs and crack here. Crack dealers work as a team, 24/7. They hand out business cards. And during the summer, it's shroom season. Free as long as you don't get caught/shot at by the owner of the pasture land you're trespassing on.

542 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:09:41am

re: #540 WindUpBird

Man, Portland is truly a fruitless town to sell pot in, market is so glutted with homegrowers you have no idea

We used to have hydroponics warehouses buying ad time on radio stations here :D

The feds sent warning letters to the dispensaries here a few weeks ago. I imagine there'll be some raids later this summer.

543 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:20:23am

re: #542 Killgore Trout

The feds sent warning letters to the dispensaries here a few weeks ago. I imagine there'll be some raids later this summer.

Oh I know *_*

Not my problem! I stopped a while back

544 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:20:47am

re: #541 Cannadian Club Akbar

ahh shroom season ^_^

545 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:26:53am

re: #543 windupbird

Oh I know *_*

Not my problem! I stopped a while back

Last time a grew some most of it ended up in the compost bin. It's kind of fun but I don't enjoy it as much as I used to.I thought maybe I could make some money growing "legally" here in Portland but it doesn't take much investigation to find out Oregon's marijuana laws are a mess and getting a permit is just asking for trouble.

547 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:32:33am

re: #545 Killgore Trout

I would never ever want to be on the radar in that respect, not that I would ever grow anyway, heh, I could barely keep a houseplant alive, let alone something that required real attention

548 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:33:26am

re: #545 Killgore Trout

Only things I have ever been able to cultivate successfully were radishes and pot plants. Perhaps I should try to develop a hybrid...

549 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:33:48am

re: #546 Killgore Trout

the gift the internet gives us is at least now we can more easily see the connections between evil

not that it stops it! But at least it's more visible

550 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:43:14am

re: #548 ralphieboy

Only things I have ever been able to cultivate successfully were radishes and pot plants. Perhaps I should try to develop a hybrid...

Wouldn't like be like putting Jack Daniels in your bong?

551 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:43:59am

re: #550 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wouldn't like be like putting Jack Daniels in your bong?

usually, red wine is what my friends would fill their glass art with

552 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:45:41am

re: #550 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wouldn't like be like putting Jack Daniels in your bong?

Maybe someting you could put in your wasabi pipe...

553 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:48:29am

Mornin' all...I can't tell you how happy it makes me to see a conversation started by CCA's seeing a 67 Volkswagon for sale in his neighborhood take three steps and land on a discussion of pot cultivation, marketing, and consumption (with a focus on appropriate fluids for glassware). It just restores my faith in America.

554 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 6:57:51am

re: #553 darthstar

Mornin' all...I can't tell you how happy it makes me to see a conversation started by CCA's seeing a 67 Volkswagon for sale in his neighborhood take three steps and land on a discussion of pot cultivation, marketing, and consumption (with a focus on appropriate fluids for glassware). It just restores my faith in America.

Apparently, everyone stepped out for a bowl while I was posting my last comment.

555 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:01:13am

Hey all!

How is the morning going?

556 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:01:36am

re: #554 darthstar

Apparently, everyone stepped out for a bowl while I was posting my last comment.

Did an oil change on a friend's mini van.

557 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:05:13am

re: #556 Cannadian Club Akbar

hella fuck fast minivan

Youtube Video
558 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:06:15am

re: #553 darthstar

Mornin' all...I can't tell you how happy it makes me to see a conversation started by CCA's seeing a 67 Volkswagon for sale in his neighborhood take three steps and land on a discussion of pot cultivation, marketing, and consumption (with a focus on appropriate fluids for glassware). It just restores my faith in America.

some of us keep the dream alive! No pot for me, I'm working, only beer :D

559 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:07:11am

re: #557 WindUpBird

just what you need to run drugs/illegal immigrants/guns across the border...

560 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:07:39am

re: #556 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did an oil change on a friend's mini van.

Got my oil changed for free this week. A friend of mine was getting his transmission rebuilt, so I lent him my 350Z for a week. He returned it Thursday night with a fresh oil change (it was overdue) and a full tank of gas...and fully detailed! (note: lending him the Z was partially my wife's idea - she's a generous spirit herself)

561 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:08:21am

re: #559 ralphieboy

just what you need to run drugs/illegal immigrants/guns across the border...

zoom zoom

I'd just use it to destroy boyracers at stoplights

YOU GOT RULED BY A MINIVAN YO

562 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:08:24am

re: #557 WindUpBird

High 12's. Fuck. Worked with a guy who had a station wagon that ran 15's.

563 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:09:16am

re: #560 darthstar

you have a Z! nice, really a great deal of fun for the money, what color? :D

564 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:10:08am

re: #562 Cannadian Club Akbar

High 12's. Fuck. Worked with a guy who had a station wagon that ran 15's.

You know you can get a brand new 550 hp station wagon in America now, right? [Link: www.cadillac.com...] :D

565 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:11:51am

re: #564 WindUpBird

You know you can get a brand new 550 hp station wagon in America now, right? [Link: www.cadillac.com...] :D

What they can do with HP in cars nowadays is amazing. Add in a lighter body as well. My first car ('68 Camaro) only had 210HP.

566 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:13:01am

have a great day all!

567 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:14:08am

re: #563 WindUpBird

you have a Z! nice, really a great deal of fun for the money, what color? :D

Silver 2006. Got it in late 07...we had a VW Passat that I put 5 grand in mechanical work into over two months and decided that maintaining it had become unmanageable. I wanted to get a Civic or Accord (reliable commuters) but my wife saw the Z on a lot and said I should have it (have I said I love this woman?) It's impractical as hell with two full-sized dogs...but one lays in the back and I'm able to take them around when I need to. But it makes for a good commuter car most days and gets decent (26mpg) mileage if I drive it properly...I can knock that down to 16 or so if I go all mid-life crisis on the hills.

568 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:14:20am

It is oil change day. Gonna do another one on my friend's wifes car.

569 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:15:40am

re: #565 Cannadian Club Akbar

What they can do with HP in cars nowadays is amazing. Add in a lighter body as well. My first car ('68 Camaro) only had 210HP.

I had a lemon yellow 75 trans am, twas my mothers, long after the dream of the muscle-car 60's had died

Wanna feel weird? my Volvo 850R wagon has 240hp :D

570 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:15:57am

re: #568 Cannadian Club Akbar

It is oil change day. Gonna do another one on my friend's wifes car.

Be glad you're not an elected official. That kind of talk could be trouble.

571 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:17:04am

re: #567 darthstar

haha I am a VW GTI owner, I know all about the quirks of VW maintenance. I love mine, but it got its weirdass electricals *_*

572 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:18:00am

re: #569 WindUpBird

I had a lemon yellow 75 trans am, twas my mothers, long after the dream of the muscle-car 60's had died

Wanna feel weird? my Volvo 850R wagon has 240hp :D

It's the BHP (Brake Horse Power) that matters...how much power goes to the wheel. My Smart car only has 70 BHP (slightly more than the average motorcycle)...but zips right along with traffic and holds speed on long hills. It also only weighs about 800 lbs without me in it.

573 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:18:41am

Speaking of cars, I need to do a driveway juggle so my wife can have the one she wants when she leaves for work in a few minutes. bbl

574 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:23:59am

re: #572 darthstar

It's the BHP (Brake Horse Power) that matters...how much power goes to the wheel. My Smart car only has 70 BHP (slightly more than the average motorcycle)...but zips right along with traffic and holds speed on long hills. It also only weighs about 800 lbs without me in it.

this is 240bhp ;-) base turbo 5-cyl 850 is 225 bhp, and the R is a little faster, turbo's tuned a bit more, not that it really matters, it's a 15 year old wagon, I'm sure it's lost some thrust in the last 150,000 miles

575 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:29:46am

Back in '89, my boss let me drive his convertible Celica to go pick up an employee. Top down, I had really long hair. Girls honking and waving. If they knew I actually drove an Escort wagon at the time, things would have been different.

576 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:31:01am

bbiab

577 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:31:05am

re: #575 Cannadian Club Akbar

Back in '89, my boss let me drive his convertible Celica to go pick up an employee. Top down, I had really long hair. Girls honking and waving. If they knew I actually drove an Escort wagon at the time, things would have been different.

80's celica convertibles are really quite sexy *_* Image: 1985_toyota_celica_gt-s_convertible-pic-3482.jpeg

578 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:48:24am

Wiener update: Weiner's exchanges between teacher, teen revealed

Hours after the e-mails were unearthed, Delaware cops descended on the home of a 17-year-old high school junior to ask her about online communications she had with Weiner.

"They (cops) were made aware of an alleged contact between Congressman Anthony Weiner and an area teen," said New Castle County police spokeswoman Officer Tracey Duffy.

"The teen has been interviewed and disclosed no information regarding any criminal activity."

She said the probe was continuing.

The girl's mother, whose name is being withheld, told The Post Wednesday that Weiner sent nothing obscene -- and sent only two brief messages to her daughter about seeing him during an April school trip to the Capitol.

The teen, who idolized Weiner, was "disappointed" in him after his confession.

The mom said she pointedly questioned her daughter about whether Weiner sent her anything obscene, and the girl swore it was all G-rated.

"I guess because he knew she was in high school," the mom said, though she added it was weird that Weiner would spend any time communicating directly with her daughter.

The mom did say her daughter wrote in one message, "I'm in love with you," but explained it away with, "She's 17."


So that probably explains why Fox News was already on the scene. It was probably reported to police by Fox and/or wingnut bloggers.

579 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 7:52:30am

re: #578 Killgore Trout

Looks like the credit goes to Patterico.....
Conservative bloggers expose sordid underbelly of Weiner scandal that mainstream media won't touch

Now leading the Weiner web sleuthing is Patterico, who earlier today posted a detailed and convincing, though circumstantial, case that there is a very strong possibility that Weiner sent lewd messages and/or images to minors.

Patterico’s post (the third on the subject) is well worth reading (warning: it includes some sordid stuff).

And now, Fox News is reporting this from New Castle, Delaware (h/t Ace of Spades):

580 elizajane  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:02:48am

re: #578 Killgore Trout

Wiener update: Weiner's exchanges between teacher, teen revealed


So that probably explains why Fox News was already on the scene. It was probably reported to police by Fox and/or wingnut bloggers.

The Times has a story that prints more of the messages. It appears to me that this girl got a crush on him when he talked at her school (also, she was interested in going into politics) so she started "following" him and sending him notes.

This was then picked up (acc. the Times) by a conservative group who were following his tweets because they'd noticed he was corresponding with the porn star. They started harrassing her (the teen-ager). Weiner apologized to her and took her off his contacts list. But a month later he put out a general call for people interested in following him on Twitter and the teen-ager replied and was reconnected.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

This says to me a few things. First, Weiner obviously knew he was being tracked by conservative groups out for his blood. Instead of being extra-careful, he continued to be, what, obsessed with virtual adoration on social media. But second, the messages he and this girl exchanged were only in any way inappropriate if you have a very, very dirty mind. I mean, I guess talking about Superman could be coded sex talk. But wow. The president of Italy invites hot underage girls to private parties at his home... and stays on. An American congressman responds on Twitter to a 17-year-old fan.... and is hounded out of office?

I read the post at Patterico and it's a very embarrassing (to her) string of tweets from this girl about her crush on Weiner (sent to her friends, not to him) accompanied by a lot of completely unsubstantiated innuendo.

581 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:06:22am

re: #580 elizajane

innuendo

in-you-end-oh?

I love potty humor

582 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:08:56am

re: #578 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it was just a cable news outlet 'feeding the beast'. MSNBC would have done the same to a conservative who got caught. Makes me hate the media. The need to keep a story going to entertain their readers often leaves such channels pulling lame tricks worthy of a "reality" show, which Fox actually resembles in many ways.

583 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:10:22am

If I lived in his district, I would simply not vote for him ever again. But we cannot leave it at that. It tittilates our purient interests way too much.

584 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:11:01am

re: #583 ralphieboy


did I say "tittlate"? *he*he*he*

585 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:11:45am

re: #580 elizajane

The Times has a story that prints more of the messages. It appears to me that this girl got a crush on him when he talked at her school (also, she was interested in going into politics) so she started "following" him and sending him notes.

This was then picked up (acc. the Times) by a conservative group who were following his tweets because they'd noticed he was corresponding with the porn star. They started harrassing her (the teen-ager). Weiner apologized to her and took her off his contacts list. But a month later he put out a general call for people interested in following him on Twitter and the teen-ager replied and was reconnected.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

This says to me a few things. First, Weiner obviously knew he was being tracked by conservative groups out for his blood. Instead of being extra-careful, he continued to be, what, obsessed with virtual adoration on social media. But second, the messages he and this girl exchanged were only in any way inappropriate if you have a very, very dirty mind. I mean, I guess talking about Superman could be coded sex talk. But wow. The president of Italy invites hot underage girls to private parties at his home... and stays on. An American congressman responds on Twitter to a 17-year-old fan... and is hounded out of office?

I read the post at Patterico and it's a very embarrassing (to her) string of tweets from this girl about her crush on Weiner (sent to her friends, not to him) accompanied by a lot of completely unsubstantiated innuendo.

When you are a prominent and effective spokesperson for your party, the other side's bloggers are always going to be out for your blood. That's part of why its so hard to find good congressional leaders: few people want to live in a glass house like that with a pack of rabid partisans scrutinizing their every move.

586 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:12:28am

re: #578 Killgore Trout

the transparent society approaches [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:13:30am

re: #564 WindUpBird

My brother was cruising on the Autobahn in Germany (well, I guess not in Indiana) at about 140mph and a Mercedes station-wagon blew by him. Two kids in the back.

He was, shall I say... shocked.

588 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:13:42am

re: #584 ralphieboy

did I say "tittlate"? *he*he*he*

SMACK!

589 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:14:07am

re: #582 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, it was just a cable news outlet 'feeding the beast'. MSNBC would have done the same to a conservative who got caught. Makes me hate the media. The need to keep a story going to entertain their readers often leaves such channels pulling lame tricks worthy of a "reality" show, which Fox actually resembles in many ways.

it's all the same beast man, all major news media is the same game, slightly different costumes

at the end of the day, you have to look your party and your morality in the eye, and decide what you want to swallow, honest abe

590 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:17:12am

re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My brother was cruising on the Autobahn in Germany (well, I guess not in Indiana) at about 140mph and a Mercedes station-wagon blew by him. Two kids in the back.

He was, shall I say... shocked.

140 mph or kph?

Perfectly normal: German cars are designed to go 100 mph (160 kph), and those stretches of Autobahn (very few remaining these days) with no posted speed limit are designed to carry cars safely at that speed.

American cars might have the muscle to go 100mph or more, but their steering and suspension systems are not capable of maintaing control at those speeds.

591 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:17:42am

re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My brother was cruising on the Autobahn in Germany (well, I guess not in Indiana) at about 140mph and a Mercedes station-wagon blew by him. Two kids in the back.

He was, shall I say... shocked.

I had a slight version of that in the bay area, I was going 90mph in my VW, got passed in the slow lane by a mack truck going at least 120

The autobahn is serious business!

a mild dream of mine is one day to rent a Porsche, or at least an M3, and bury the needle on the autobahn

the Germans are serious about passing lanes, if you are in the fast lane and you don't yield for faster traffic, you will get a ticket that will leave you waiting for a cigarette from your lover

592 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:18:29am

re: #590 ralphieboy

MPH... this was early 80's. He had his sports car shipped over there.

Renault Gordini. That little bastard would fly... I had sold it to him.

Can't find any decent pictures of them on the interweaves. Was a terrible/great car.

593 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:20:00am

Fox News covers the Bilderbergs (via Alex Jones)

Youtube Video
594 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:20:52am

re: #590 ralphieboy

140 mph or kph?

Perfectly normal: German cars are designed to go 100 mph (160 kph), and those stretches of Autobahn (very few remaining these days) with no posted speed limit are designed to carry cars safely at that speed.

American cars might have the muscle to go 100mph or more, but their steering and suspension systems are not capable of maintaing control at those speeds.

My GTI likes 100mph and more, rides at 100 like my old '84 pontiac 6000 wagon rode at 50, a shame I only get to do it in the middle of nowhere

unlike my father's AMX (which he said, would leave the ground at such speeds despite its rip-snortin mill) my car is rather sorted at 110 ^_^

595 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:24:14am

re: #593 Killgore Trout

Fox News covers the Bilderbergs (via Alex Jones)

[Video]

Looks like Fox Business, actually. They tend to keep Jones off the main Fox channel, likely because they don't want to taint people like Hannity or O'Reilly (neither of whom have let Jones on their shows, nor are they likely to) with Jones' Bad Craziness.

596 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:24:40am

re: #590 ralphieboy

though if you want legal adrenaline at speeds approaching hyperspace, I recommend a cheap les paul copy and an orange stack, much cheaper than a 911

597 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:25:28am

re: #595 Dark_Falcon

it's all the same meat, just with different breading

598 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:26:38am

re: #595 Dark_Falcon

Looks like Fox Business, actually. They tend to keep Jones off the main Fox channel, likely because they don't want to taint people like Hannity or O'Reilly (neither of whom have let Jones on their shows, nor are they likely to) with Jones' Bad Craziness.

Alex Jones wasn't on the panel, he just linked to the video. Napolitano is possible replacement for Beck. It's amazing to think that time slot may even get nuttier after beck leaves.

599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:27:32am

Rep. Weiner, who thinks he's a hunk,
Went texting some shots of his junk,
Can't be blamed on Team Fox
It wasn't their cocks
That put Weiner's career in a funk.

600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:28:51am

re: #598 Killgore Trout

In fairness? Judge Nap hated George Bush the Younger.

I listened to him on the Radio waves while Bush was still in office.

Ain't Obama he hates, it's the US Govt.

601 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:28:57am

re: #597 WindUpBird

it's all the same meat, just with different breading

Yeah, but I like the breading at Brown's better than the stuff sold at the grocery store.

/smarting off (Brown's is a small Chicago area fast-food chain originally specializing in fried chicken)

602 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:29:50am

re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In fairness? Judge Nap hated George Bush the Younger.

I listened to him on the Radio waves while Bush was still in office.

Ain't Obama he hates, it's the US Govt.

Yup, he's a Ron Paul-type libertarian nutcase.

603 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:31:20am

re: #602 Killgore Trout

At least we can't blame racism. Seriously. He despised Bush (TARP, Patriot Act) was Nap's tipping point.

604 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:31:30am

re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In fairness? Judge Nap hated George Bush the Younger.

I listened to him on the Radio waves while Bush was still in office.

Ain't Obama he hates, it's the US Govt.

Same with Alex Jones, but that doesn't really make it any better. They're both loonier than Lindsey Lohan on brown acid. The only major good thing you can say about Jones and Napolitano is that they don't encourage acts of violence, and that's not saying much at all.

605 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:33:40am

re: #601 Dark_Falcon

at some point you won't be able to deny the moral corruption of your party ;-) At spome point they will lose even you

606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:34:02am

re: #604 Dark_Falcon

I didn't say it was better, but at least he's fair in his un-balanced.

607 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:37:19am

re: #605 WindUpBird

at some point you won't be able to deny the moral corruption of your party ;-) At spome point they will lose even you

Alex Jones ain't part of my part, or any other. Some wingnuts listen to him, but if the GOP wins in 2012, he'll be back on the outs again. Jones is not the type who could accept being part of the organization in power. Neither is Glenn Beck.

608 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:37:42am

re: #600 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In fairness? Judge Nap hated George Bush the Younger.

I listened to him on the Radio waves while Bush was still in office.

Ain't Obama he hates, it's the US Govt.

he doesn't hate it, he's paid to pretend he hates it

much like the hulkster was paid to pretend he hated King Kong Bundy


nobody as fat and well paid as that guy hates the thing that allows him his cameras, his makeup assistants, his gel lights, his 3..2..1..action, his big big bank account and his daily ham grinder with extra cheese pushed past his wet lips

the unabomber hated the US Government, Judge Nap is a tiny dancer, another Ann Coulter, a pied piper to hypnotize the gullible, money in the bank

609 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:38:13am

re: #607 Dark_Falcon

Alex Jones ain't part of my part, or any other. Some wingnuts listen to him, but if the GOP wins in 2012, he'll be back on the outs again. Jones is not the type who could accept being part of the organization in power. Neither is Glenn Beck.

alex jones isn't a republican


Charles told you what Illinois republicans are

610 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:41:18am

re: #608 WindUpBird

Find what you love to do? You'll make money.

He loves hating what the Feds do, so? Eh... he's making money.

611 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:43:57am

re: #610 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Find what you love to do? You'll make money.

He loves hating what the Feds do, so? Eh... he's making money.

I like drinking. Wait....
/

612 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:45:21am

re: #609 WindUpBird

alex jones isn't a republican

Charles told you what Illinois republicans are

I think Charles is wrong about that, but now I have to go. We can continue this later. BBT

613 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:49:58am

My brother just texted me. We haven't talked in a month. His GF might be pregnant. He had no idea about my Antarctica thing.

614 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:50:49am

re: #612 Dark_Falcon

curious as to what specifically you think he's wrong about, the documentation about that the GOP intends to achieve in illinois is pretty clear and not in dispute, but sure

615 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:51:50am

re: #610 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Find what you love to do? You'll make money.

He loves hating what the Feds do, so? Eh... he's making money.

yep ^_^


I'm just happy what I love to do doesn't involve hating anyone as a business model

well, expect censors. i'm not a fan of censors :D

616 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:52:48am

re: #614 WindUpBird

I honestly think Jindal's cash-grab down in Louisiana is the worst of the excesses.

A government program has functioned well, the workers have paid money into a fund, and he wants to just steal it away from them.

It's about as wrong as you can get, it's the exact opposite of fiscal discipline, it's unethical, and it's sneaky and stupid.

There is nothing good about it. It's just ripping off state workers.

617 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:54:05am

re: #615 WindUpBird

yep ^_^

I'm just happy what I love to do doesn't involve hating anyone as a business model

well, expect censors. i'm not a fan of censors :D

This is why I hate it when people say people like Rush or Beck should be taken off the air. What happens when someone doesn't like what they say?

618 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:55:46am

re: #616 Obdicut

Jindal is...yeah, there's no words that aren't just invective, there's no words I wouldn't scream at someone trying to break into my home or my car

somewhat off topic, I saw a thing about how the "tea party" is running neck and neck for popularity with "the republican party", I believe it was Rasmussin, which are a little shaky for reliability...but...


maybe there's some cannibalism about to take place for 2012

619 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:56:23am

re: #617 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think Rush or Beck should be taken off the air by the companies they work for, because their messages are fucked up and bordering on evil.

I don't think they should be taken off by the government.

I also think they should be rejected by right-thinking people and not listened to-- which became true in Beck's case.

620 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:57:00am

re: #618 WindUpBird

If there is a 3rd party running on the right, President Obama will have a cake walk, IMO.

621 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:57:33am

re: #617 Cannadian Club Akbar

This is why I hate it when people say people like Rush or Beck should be taken off the air. What happens when someone doesn't like what they say?

I don't think they should be taken off the air, not at all, room for everyone


I DO think that one company should not be allowed to monopolize the airwaves as clearchannel has. That's the syndicate cancer that has infected radio. that't's the dogshit in the syringe, injected into America

622 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:57:38am

re: #619 Obdicut

The companies won't do that. They are cash cows.

623 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:58:39am

re: #620 Cannadian Club Akbar

If there is a 3rd party running on the right, President Obama will have a cake walk, IMO.

IMHO he'll have a cake walk anyway, but if there's another perot 3-split scenario, it'll be an epic landslide

Which I would like to see, combined with Michelle Obama running in 2016 :D

624 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 8:59:29am

re: #621 WindUpBird

I remember when there was an emergency going on in Idaho or somewhere and Clear Chanel wouldn't stop playing music and break in. That was fucked.

625 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:01:34am

re: #619 Obdicut

beck is practically his own machine now, Mercury Radio Arts is about to be his only sandwich, as it were, how many people does he employ now? Beck, for all the insults leveled at him, he is media savvy, he's a guy who gets it straight up, in the 90's he tried to copy Phil Hendrie. Now, he's tried to out Rush Rush. Now he's about to ride the internet.

beck is the true entrepreneur, in the way of L Ron Hubbard, build a cult, build a religion, manipulate the dumb, get their money, that's your business model

626 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:01:36am

re: #622 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yep. And I think in the US we've largely lost our way in terms of respecting profit for profit's sake, instead of wanting to make profits do to things of actual value, things that contribute to society.

My grandfather was proud of the boats he built, of the machines he made, because they were things of value.

These days, we treat assholes who make their money through spewing racism as though they're somehow smart or clever by doing so, and we treat people who make money through financial instruments which literally do nothing positive for anyone else, as though they're awesome and worthy of respect.

One of the reasons I consider myself a conservative is that I think many of the problems in the US are values problems; I think we need to go back to the idea that making money should be based on making things of actual value.

Shit, at least most of the robber barons built railroads, irrigated desert, ran ferry lines, made steel. Obviously financial speculators have been around forever but these days their importance is all outsized.

627 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:02:14am

re: #624 Cannadian Club Akbar

I remember when there was an emergency going on in Idaho or somewhere and Clear Chanel wouldn't stop playing music and break in. That was fucked.

THAT is what should land them in prison, or worse :)

But what do I know :3

628 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:02:25am

Alright. Time for me to go have awesome Cuban food.

629 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:03:20am

re: #626 Obdicut

we have lost our way, period

as the homeless man in Robocop says:

'No guarantees, whole lotta jungle, you're on your own"

630 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:04:18am

re: #625 WindUpBird

I think Beck has 150 +/- employees. And he has been Mercury for a while now.

631 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:04:51am

re: #626 Obdicut

One of the reasons I consider myself a conservative is that I think many of the problems in the US are values problems; I think we need to go back to the idea that making money should be based on making things of actual value.

if that's what a conservative is, then I'm already that!

But of course, in America, it isn't that in the slightest

632 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:05:54am

re: #630 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think Beck has 150 +/- employees. And he has been Mercury for a while now.

yep, he just hasn't pushed himself out to sea as an internet-only entity yet

Smart guy, real smart, he knows his act, knows it works

People underestimate him, and they're wrong to do so

633 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:07:52am

re: #632 WindUpBird

yep, he just hasn't pushed himself out to sea as an internet-only entity yet

Smart guy, real smart, he knows his act, knows it works

People underestimate him, and they're wrong to do so

Radio show, 3 web sites, books, comedy tours, had a magazine at one time, merchandise (I have 1 Tshirt and 2 CD's).

634 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:08:28am

re: #619 Obdicut

Freedom of the press on the public airwaves stops PRECISELY at the moment that the advertising revenue does not merit a person being on the airwaves.

635 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:10:00am

re: #633 Cannadian Club Akbar

Radio show, 3 web sites, books, comedy tours, had a magazine at one time, merchandise (I have 1 Tshirt and 2 CD's).

You're going to need a lot more than that if you're spending months in the Antartic!

636 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:11:05am

Fox News is still pimping the Wiener/underage girl thing as their big headline.

637 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:11:25am

re: #626 Obdicut

Sanjay can do the same thing, halfway around the world for a third of the cost, none of the regulation, and a 10th of the income.

And? It sucks.

638 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:12:13am

re: #636 Killgore Trout

For the girls sake? I hope it turns out to be a big fuckin' nothing.

639 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:12:31am

Premier Radio Network. AKA juggernaut.

640 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:13:45am

re: #635 sattv4u2

You're going to need a lot more than that if you're spending months in the Antartic!

I have a sock. Ya know, for my junk.
/

641 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:13:55am

re: #636 Killgore Trout

Fox News is still pimping the Wiener/underage girl thing as their big headline.

Still on ABC news' front page also

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

as well as MS/NBC

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

642 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:14:00am

re: #638 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

For the girls sake? I hope it turns out to be a big fuckin' nothing.

I'm pretty sure the story has already fallen apart.

643 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:14:47am

re: #642 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty sure the story has already fallen apart.

I pray that part of it will/has

644 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:15:36am

re: #640 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a sock thimble. Ya know, for my junk.
/

accuracy in reportage

645 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:16:37am

re: #643 sattv4u2

I pray that part of it will/has

What part do you not pray will fall apart?

646 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:18:27am

re: #645 BigPapa

What part do you not pray will fall apart?

{sigh}

Yeah,,, shhhh,, you caught me

secretly,,, in all my spare time,,, I pray day and night for HUGE scandals involving politicians/ people I disagree with!!

Jeeez Luoise ,,,,

647 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:19:41am

So, Weiner is innocent and Fox is guilty, at least as far as the underage girl is concerned. He's still a complete slug. Maybe this comically tawdry story will fade away now, only to be revived with the 57 states every time the GOP needs to invoke the Magical Balance Fairy.

648 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:20:46am

re: #645 BigPapa

While your at it, why not take issue with FBV's #638, which states

For the girls sake? I hope it turns out to be a big fuckin' nothing.

He said NOTHING about "for Weiners wifes sake".. or Weiners freinds/ family sake,,, or for the countries sake

FBV,, why do you hate Weiners wife/ freinds/ family/ our country!?!?!

649 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:20:54am

re: #646 sattv4u2

I didn't expect you to answer the question but figured I'd ask anyway.

650 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:21:21am

re: #649 BigPapa

I didn't expect you to answer the question but figured I'd ask anyway.

Glad I didn't disappoint you then!

651 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:22:24am

And on that note, shower and errands

652 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:22:56am

re: #648 sattv4u2

Huh? I asked a simple question. No need to act defensive.

653 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:23:24am

Philistines.


NY court says strip club's lap dances are taxable

Four Appellate Division justices agreed with a state tax appeals commission's earlier finding that dances onstage or in private rooms at the club Nite Moves in suburban Albany don't qualify for a state tax exemption as "dramatic or musical arts performances."

654 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:25:08am

re: #653 JasonA

Philistines.

NY court says strip club's lap dances are taxable

The tough part is trying to figure out where to put the loose change.

655 zora  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:26:01am

re: #636 Killgore Trout

Fox News is still pimping the Wiener/underage girl thing as their big headline.

[Link: politicalwire.com...]

Said the girl's mother: "None of us will be getting our 15 minutes of fame because of this nonsense. Representative Weiner never tweeted her anything inappropriate... That is the answer, honestly."

656 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:27:17am

The workings of "con-serf-tif" politics in Texas:

Lubbock citizen: "How come I pay $13.95 a month for 'stormwater service' when there isn't a storm drain within a mile of my house and we have 1/10th as much storm water as cities that charge half as much for this?"

Yokel politico: "I'm glad you asked that question, since it highlights my new resolution designating next Tuesday as a day for all people of faith to join hands, look up to Jesus, and pray for rain. On the national scene, we must also face the threat of Shariah law which, as you know, flourishes in drought-ridden regions. And-------- LOOK, OVER THERE, IT'S A GAY PREACHER!"

657 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:30:28am

re: #626 Obdicut

Yep. And I think in the US we've largely lost our way in terms of respecting profit for profit's sake, instead of wanting to make profits do to things of actual value, things that contribute to society.

My grandfather was proud of the boats he built, of the machines he made, because they were things of value.

These days, we treat assholes who make their money through spewing racism as though they're somehow smart or clever by doing so, and we treat people who make money through financial instruments which literally do nothing positive for anyone else, as though they're awesome and worthy of respect.

One of the reasons I consider myself a conservative is that I think many of the problems in the US are values problems; I think we need to go back to the idea that making money should be based on making things of actual value.

Shit, at least most of the robber barons built railroads, irrigated desert, ran ferry lines, made steel. Obviously financial speculators have been around forever but these days their importance is all outsized.

Call that a 7/8ths ding. Why do you think concern for values is "conservative"?

658 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:31:53am

Time for a burger and fries. BBL.

659 allegro  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:48:28am

re: #657 Decatur Deb

Call that a 7/8ths ding. Why do you think concern for values is "conservative"?

Just shows how the rightwing has coopted the term "values" to mean THEIR definition of the right way to live that should be forced by law and punishment on everyone.

660 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:52:47am

re: #659 allegro

Just shows how the rightwing has coopted the term "values" to mean THEIR definition of the right way to live that should be forced by law and punishment on everyone.

Odi isn't much more than 'right shoulder', but they do seem to gather virtue about them. I'd rather live next door to a streetwalker than a televangelist, and think of that as an echo of my strong Christian upbringing.

661 makeitstop  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:53:12am

I drove into NYC for my usual Friday night gig last night, and both news radio stations were doing the story tease as 'Weiner now accused of sexting a 17 year old' - even after it was learned that his communication with the kid was not of a sexual nature.

I am led to conclude that for some reason, the NYC news media hates Anthony Weiner, they have an axe, and they are grinding it.

662 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:55:13am

re: #661 makeitstop

I drove into NYC for my usual Friday night gig last night, and both news radio stations were doing the story tease as 'Weiner now accused of sexting a 17 year old' - even after it was learned that his communication with the kid was not of a sexual nature.

I am led to conclude that for some reason, the NYC news media hates Anthony Weiner, they have an axe, and they are grinding it.

Winguts have an axe to grind but for the rest of the msm they're just promoting scandalous teen sex headlines for ratings.

663 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:56:51am

re: #661 makeitstop

I drove into NYC for my usual Friday night gig last night, and both news radio stations were doing the story tease as 'Weiner now accused of sexting a 17 year old' - even after it was learned that his communication with the kid was not of a sexual nature.

I am led to conclude that for some reason, the NYC news media hates Anthony Weiner, they have an axe, and they are grinding it.

Heh. Whether the accusations were grounded or not, he was in fact accused of such things, by Breitbart weeks ago, even...

These guys know what their listeners want to hear and they deliver. That is the basis of modern journalism. Actual news takes a back seat, and facts are long since out the window.

664 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 9:59:05am

The most important thing is to dish on the (D). That's all that matters. Stretching the truth a little, vexing on unimportant issues, it's all good if there's a (D) after their name.

665 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:00:34am

re: #664 BigPapa

The most important thing is to dish on the (D). That's all that matters. Stretching the truth a little, vexing on unimportant issues, it's all good if there's a (D) after their name.

Nah--the newslugs would have been happy to fasten onto a juicy (R) scandal like lampreys.

666 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:03:46am

Even the Kos kidz haven't found anything outrageously outrageous in Palin's emails. That story's going nowhere.

667 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:03:54am

re: #665 Decatur Deb

The only differencv is that this particular (D) never made a reputation for standing for for "family values" legislation.

668 AK-47%  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:04:55am

re: #666 Killgore Trout

Even the Kos kidz haven't found anything outrageously outrageous in Palin's emails. That story's going nowhere.


are we expecting anything beyond "mildly embarassing to anyone with a sense of self-dignity"?

669 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:05:29am

re: #666 Killgore Trout

Even the Kos kidz haven't found anything outrageously outrageous in Palin's emails. That story's going nowhere.

The most outrageous thing about them is that Palin's legal team decided to leave in all the personal contact information for anyone who criticized Palin -- email addresses, phone numbers, even some street addresses.

670 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:06:09am

re: #665 Decatur Deb

Nah--the newslugs would have been happy to fasten onto a juicy (R) scandal like lampreys.

But there are so many of them that they get boring, and Democrats don't get all upset and call for resignations when Republicans fuck up...it's just expected of them. But when a Democrat fucks up, there's a whole infrastructure set up to figure out the most ways to make hay of it...and what's really interesting to me in the Weiner case (so far, anyway) is the fact that nobody (to my knowledge - I suspect Wolf Blitzer blurted this out on day 1) has said, "How will this affect President Obama?"

671 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:06:48am

re: #666 Killgore Trout

Even the Kos kidz haven't found anything outrageously outrageous in Palin's emails. That story's going nowhere.

There is no need for anyone to work so hard on this. The good dirt on Palin comes right out of her mouth every time she opens it in public.

672 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:06:50am

re: #665 Decatur Deb

Nah--the newslugs would have been happy to fasten onto a juicy (R) scandal like lampreys.

Generally speaking I agree. Specifically speaking of current Wiener focused news sources, I suspect partisanship is a big influence, either of the news organization or more likely of the audience that the news organization is trying to cater to.

Ironically, it seems those who most complain about biased news sources utilize biased news sources for their news, the alternate of what they perceive as biased.

673 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:07:29am

re: #669 Charles

The most outrageous thing about them is that Palin's legal team decided to leave in all the personal contact information for anyone who criticized Palin -- email addresses, phone numbers, even some street addresses.

Payback's a bitch. They also left in all of Sarah's email aliases
gov.sarah@yahoo.com
gov.palin@yahoo.com
The woman's a fucking sock-puppet!

674 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:08:26am

Republican slug: Beg Jesus for forgiveness and another chance.

Democrat slug: Beg Pelosi for forgiveness and another chance.

675 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:09:55am

re: #674 Shiplord Kirel

Republican slug: Beg Jesus for forgiveness and another chance.

Democrat slug: Beg Pelosi for forgiveness and another chance.

The difference, of course, is that Pelosi can fuck you up(if you're a Democrat) whereas Jesus really can't do shit.

676 hugh59  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:10:29am

re: #540 WindUpBird

Man, Portland is truly a fruitless town to sell pot in, market is so glutted with homegrowers you have no idea

We used to have hydroponics warehouses buying ad time on radio stations here :D

My wife used to live in the Seattle area. She said that there was a very high tax on cars in Washington state. Also, new cars had to meet tough emission requirements; cars that predated the standards were exempted. The effect was that people would put off buying new cars and keep driving old junkers. I faced the same sort of thing 10 years ago when I lived and worked in the DC area. Virginia had a car tax. I drove my old Toyota and kept my newer, more expensive car, at my mom's house in a different state.

677 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:12:55am

By the way, yes, I banned 'Alaska Kim' last night, because I didn't want to wake up to another Inbox full of complaints about her trolling and race-baiting comments.

678 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:16:32am

I suspected sock.

679 darthstar  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:22:52am

re: #677 Charles

By the way, yes, I banned 'Alaska Kim' last night, because I didn't want to wake up to another Inbox full of complaints about her trolling and race-baiting comments.

Thank you. I thought she was a ban-worthy candidate but didn't want to tell you how to run your blog...her race-baiting and trollish crap really was over the top a lot of the time - I pretty much ignored her because to engage would have meant letting loose with my "less gentle" online persona - and I'm trying to kill that fucker for the most part.

680 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:24:29am

re: #678 BigPapa

I suspected sock.

Can't tell. Albusteve remembered her as kinda cool, but it didn't show in the last couple days.

681 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:42:25am

re: #580 elizajane

The Times has a story that prints more of the messages. It appears to me that this girl got a crush on him when he talked at her school (also, she was interested in going into politics) so she started "following" him and sending him notes.

This was then picked up (acc. the Times) by a conservative group who were following his tweets because they'd noticed he was corresponding with the porn star. They started harrassing her (the teen-ager). Weiner apologized to her and took her off his contacts list. But a month later he put out a general call for people interested in following him on Twitter and the teen-ager replied and was reconnected.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

This says to me a few things. First, Weiner obviously knew he was being tracked by conservative groups out for his blood. Instead of being extra-careful, he continued to be, what, obsessed with virtual adoration on social media. But second, the messages he and this girl exchanged were only in any way inappropriate if you have a very, very dirty mind. I mean, I guess talking about Superman could be coded sex talk. But wow. The president of Italy invites hot underage girls to private parties at his home... and stays on. An American congressman responds on Twitter to a 17-year-old fan... and is hounded out of office?

I read the post at Patterico and it's a very embarrassing (to her) string of tweets from this girl about her crush on Weiner (sent to her friends, not to him) accompanied by a lot of completely unsubstantiated innuendo.

It sounds as though he was, in this instance, correct.

It also sounds as though my decision not to let any of my children have any social media until they are fifty-five was also correct.

682 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:49:49am

re: #587 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My brother was cruising on the Autobahn in Germany (well, I guess not in Indiana) at about 140mph and a Mercedes station-wagon blew by him. Two kids in the back.

He was, shall I say... shocked.

Some friends of my parents' in Germany had an ongoing problem with their elderly mother, who persisted in driving on the Autobahn at night.

Just going to visit friends.

Apparently, after the war, people applied for new driver's licenses, to get rid of the ones with the Nazi government's stamps and insignia.

Ursula never felt the need to replace hers, since hers was issued by the Weimar Republic.

Apparently once you have demonstrated your ability to drive in Germany they never test you again. Which is how we got from Ursula proudly taking her driving test in 1920, to Ursula driving like a bat out of hell on the Autobahn in the '90s.

Her children wrung their hands. She retorted that half of them lived in America anyway, where there would be weird foreign traffic rules to learn, and they were OK, right?

683 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:53:33am

re: #660 Decatur Deb

Odi isn't much more than 'right shoulder', but they do seem to gather virtue about them. I'd rather live next door to a streetwalker than a televangelist, and think of that as an echo of my strong Christian upbringing.

She'd be more likely to actually be a Christian, too.

684 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 10:56:33am

re: #680 Decatur Deb

Can't tell. Albusteve remembered her as kinda cool, but it didn't show in the last couple days.

Every time I recall seeing her it was the same routine...pop up, assert various stereotypical right-wing positions, get either nasty or whiny when challenged.

Did not seem able to engage if no one took that bait.

685 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 11:08:14am

re: #636 Killgore Trout

Fox News is still pimping the Wiener/underage girl thing as their big headline.

Fox News loves it some high school poon, hahaha

686 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 11:12:24am

re: #682 SanFranciscoZionist

it should be noted that Germany has never shied away from granting its soccer-moms escape velocity

687 Obdicut  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 11:15:58am

re: #657 Decatur Deb

Call that a 7/8ths ding. Why do you think concern for values is "conservative"?

I see it as a value that we used to have more than we do today, that we've moved away from it-- even in my own lifetime.

688 albusteve  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 11:18:14am

re: #680 Decatur Deb

Can't tell. Albusteve remembered her as kinda cool, but it didn't show in the last couple days.

I said said she was nice and seemingly polite...in the end she was a hater

689 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 11:20:40am

re: #677 Charles

By the way, yes, I banned 'Alaska Kim' last night, because I didn't want to wake up to another Inbox full of complaints about her trolling and race-baiting comments.

I think she qualifies as one of the Lizard Lounge Leftovers. She was a pleasant chat participant. Politics weren't always the topic there, and her positions were more commonly held by Loungers.

690 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 11:22:28am

re: #687 Obdicut

I see it as a value that we used to have more than we do today, that we've moved away from it-- even in my own lifetime.

Cicero and the Priest of Ptah share your opinion. I sometimes wish the nuns' universe had been maintained, but mostly the kids are adjusting blindly to new realities.

(This will be erratic--barbeque-ing corn, squash, and stuffed peppers.)

691 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 11:23:11am

re: #688 albusteve

I said said she was nice and seemingly polite...in the end she was a hater

Sad.

692 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 11, 2011 12:25:21pm

re: #599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Rep. Weiner, who thinks he's a hunk,
Went texting some shots of his junk,
Can't be blamed on Team Fox
It wasn't their cocks
That put Weiner's career in a funk.

Did you make this up?
Funny as hell . . .

693 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jun 13, 2011 5:56:35pm

re: #677 Charles

By the way, yes, I banned 'Alaska Kim' last night, because I didn't want to wake up to another Inbox full of complaints about her trolling and race-baiting comments.

Ah, too bad. Those kinds are my favorites to send home crying.


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