Republican presidential contender Rick Santorum says any doctor who performs an abortion should be arrested and “criminally charged” — even in cases of rape or incest.
This is the Republican Party’s idea of “limited government.”
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ReamWorks SKG Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:42:35am |
But before you watch that, watch this:
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bratwurst Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:44:16am |
He has the misogynist and troglodyte vote wrapped up already!
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:45:05am |
So how long before they move from saying doctors should be criminally charged to women being criminally charged?
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Winny Spencer Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:45:48am |
re: #4 bratwurst
He has the misogynist and troglodyte vote wrapped up already!
I wouldn’t be so sure. The competition for that vote is fierce.
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:49:28am |
WOW SRSLY WTF.
Zygotes have full rights under the constitution?
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:51:05am |
re: #8 BigPapa
What about anchor zygotes?
[Link: whyimmigration.blogspot.com…]
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McSpiff Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:51:45am |
re: #5 moderatelyradicalliberal
So how long before they move from saying doctors should be criminally charged to women being criminally charged?
Roughly when you start proposing to investigate miscarriages. So like… 8 months ago?
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:51:58am |
Did I sleep through the striking down of Roe v Wade? Or have we as a country just decided that it just never happened?
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:52:44am |
re: #11 McSpiff
Roughly when you start proposing to investigate miscarriages. So like… 8 months ago?
Oh, yeah. I forgot about the crazy man in Georgia.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:52:54am |
Keep in mind that this person’s children attend school electronically because he cannot find a school that he is happy with.
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darthstar Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:54:06am |
Rick Santorum will drop out of the presidential race right after Newt Gingrich. The guy’s been out of work for four years and has seven kids to feed. You’d think he’d find another job already.
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darthstar Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:55:01am |
re: #14 PhillyPretzel
Keep in mind that this person’s children attend school electronically because he cannot find a school that he is happy with.
His children will all be in psychotherapy when they get to college.
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:56:29am |
‘Life begins at conception’ is the key construct of the Defense of Women as Chattel Act.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Jun 12, 2011 9:57:30am |
re: #17 darthstar
His children will all be in psychotherapy when they get to college.
He made them hold and sing to their dead sibling. They probably need it now.
[Link: www.alan.com…]
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moderatelyradicalliberal Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:00:51am |
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:04:32am |
I’d like to remind everyone that Satnorum isn’t far outside the GOP mainstream in this regard.
The GOP party has a plank of adding a personhood amendment to the Constitution, one that would define a person— and rights— as beginning at conception.
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Lidane Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:05:33am |
re: #15 darthstar
Rick Santorum will drop out of the presidential race right after Newt Gingrich. The guy’s been out of work for four years and has seven kids to feed. You’d think he’d find another job already.
He should hop onto the reality show gravy train. It works for the Duggars and their brood.
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:05:42am |
I love women. Every good right thinking man should have one.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:05:47am |
Winning! CNN/University of New Hampshire poll shows that only 2 percent of New Hampshire voters support Santorum…
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com…]
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:05:48am |
re: #22 Obdicut
I’d like to remind everyone that Satnorum isn’t far outside the GOP mainstream in this regard.
The GOP party has a plank of adding a personhood amendment to the Constitution, one that would define a person— and rights— as beginning at conception.
Absolutely right — this has become the standard Republican position.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:07:05am |
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:08:14am |
re: #22 Obdicut
I’d like to remind everyone that Satnorum isn’t far outside the GOP mainstream in this regard.
The GOP party has a plank of adding a personhood amendment to the Constitution, one that would define a person— and rights— as beginning at conception.
All the more reason to keep them as far away from the reins of power as possible.
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darthstar Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:10:31am |
Santorum’s not a real candidate. This is just a job interview for the networks. He’s hoping CNN or MSNBC (Fox is overloaded with stupid already) will pick him up as an election season commentator (I really dislike that word, commentator, and yet it’s an actual word). He knows he doesn’t have a prayer as a national candidate - even among the evangelical minority. He just wants the attention and money. It’s time to start treating these people like the hucksters they are.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:14:49am |
The Republican Fail Express just keeps on running….
Iraq says U.S. congressman, delegation not welcome in country
In widely reported statements after a meeting Friday with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, the California Republican said he informed the Iraqi leader that his House committee is investigating the killing of Iranian exiles by Iraqi forces.
Rohrabacher, the chairman of the Oversight and Investigation Subcommittee of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, also told reporters during a news conference at the embassy in Baghdad that he suggested Iraq repay some of the cost of the war.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:15:32am |
I read his book and I put it back on the shelf because I was so pissed at the things he was suggesting. I better get out of this thread before I type something I will regret.
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Targetpractice Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:15:42am |
re: #29 darthstar
Santorum’s not a real candidate. This is just a job interview for the networks. He’s hoping CNN or MSNBC (Fox is overloaded with stupid already) will pick him up as an election season commentator (I really dislike that word, commentator, and yet it’s an actual word). He knows he doesn’t have a prayer as a national candidate - even among the evangelical minority. He just wants the attention and money. It’s time to start treating these people like the hucksters they are.
Are there any real candidates in the race this year? It seems like every “front-runner” so far has either not officially joined the race, dropped out, or is playing it by ear. Think perhaps the only exceptions would be Cain and Romney.
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darthstar Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:15:59am |
Okay…my wife closed her laptop…time for a bike ride. See you in a while, crocodiles.
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Kid A Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:16:50am |
Google My Name also said something along the lines of public schools being flawed social experiments. I think Rick is a flawed social experiment.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:18:55am |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
Brain trust!
Also on the delegation were Reps. Ted Poe, R-Texas, a subcommittee member, Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, and Jeff Duncan, R-S.C.
[Link: www.heraldonline.com…]
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:21:04am |
re: #35 jaunte
Brain trust!
The idiots got themselves thrown out of the country. It’s like their almost trying to fail.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:22:26am |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
Classic “Don’t you know who I am?” story.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:25:35am |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
It’s really hard to believe how incompetent these guys are at diplomacy.
Rohrabacher asked for permission for the delegation to visit Camp Ashraf, but said the Iraqi government refused.“The MEK is recognized in the U.S. as a terrorist organization,” Dabbagh earlier told McClatchy. “We would ask the administration whether they can accept a terrorist organization on U.S. lands. And if such an organization were on American soil, would you allow other countries to come and have a look at them, or is it exclusively a matter of the sovereignty of the United States?”
He said if the U.S. is concerned about the fate of the MEK members, “we would urge them to host them in the U.S. or in other countries.”
[Link: www.heraldonline.com…]
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:26:34am |
re: #38 jaunte
They’re acting like Iraq is a territory of the US.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:26:36am |
re: #30 Killgore Trout
The Republican Fail Express just keeps on running…
Iraq says U.S. congressman, delegation not welcome in country
Rorhabacher’s comments were music to the ears of conspiracy mongers like Muqtada al-Sadr (aka Tater) and other Iranian sponsored subversives in Iraq. Anything that is good for Sadr is bad for our troops in the country and for Iraq’s future chances of remaining independent of the mullahs.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:31:36am |
And the elevator for the Weiner scandal is going dowwwnnn.
TMZ posted new pics taken inside the House Members Gym. One is naked, others he’s grabbing his crotch.
[Link: photos.tmz.com…]
TMZ obtained the pics Weiner took of himself using his Blackberry and a mirror. Congressional sources have confirmed with TMZ … the backdrop is indeed the House Members Gym in the basement of the Rayburn House Office Building.
The pics were taken on both the gym floor and in the locker room.
TMZ has confirmed the pics were sent online to at least one woman.
The question that’s dogged Weiner since his news conference/mea culpa is — did he use Congressional resources during his cyber affairs?
He’s got to go!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:35:07am |
Santorum has a “Please don’t elect me for anything” sign in his basement that he’s just waiting to whip out.
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Winny Spencer Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:36:16am |
re: #41 marjoriemoon
Not everyone agrees……..
Anthony Weiner Defended by Janeane Garofalo: ‘He Will Be Mayor of New York One Day’
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Lidane Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:39:46am |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
The idiots got themselves thrown out of the country. It’s like their almost trying to fail.
Their fail is too much for other countries, but they keep getting elected. What the hell does that say for their districts?
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:40:07am |
I don’t think doctors are perfect by any means, but I trust them a lot more than I trust politicians in deciding issues like abortion, medical marijuana, and other such things.
Arresting doctors for giving the best care that they know how to their patients is not a good idea.
And this is a half-step away from arresting women.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:40:35am |
No doubt Obama has had to call Maliki to try to mitigate the damage from the Congress Clowns visit:
Obama: “You do understand, Nuri, that this Rorhabacher person is in opposition to my administration and does not make policy?”
Maliki: “Yes, yes, but he is still an important public figure, with a legislative position.”
Obama: “True but, uh, I’ll tell you what. He and this tea party faction are sort of our version of al-Sadr.”
Maliki: “As bad as that?”
Obama: “No, not quite, just similar, an analogy. He doesn’t have his own army for example.”
Maliki: “Ah! But I have seen from the media that he does have many armed supporters.”
Obama: “Er, I guess so, but his men are mostly too fat to cause any real trouble with their weapons, not to mention all the suburban houses and bass boats and other investments they don’t want to risk.”
Maliki: “Ok, Barack, I will try to do some damage control, tell people Rohrabacher is your enemy and can’t steal our oil even though he wants to. Maybe it will work, maybe it won’t.
Obama: “That’s the best we can do, I guess.”
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:45:54am |
re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Santorum has a “Please don’t elect me for anything” sign in his basement that he’s just waiting to whip out.
Weiner beat him to it!
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:45:59am |
re: #44 Winny Spencer
re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They don’t want to lose Dems in the House and I can understand that. Truly, but this is disgraceful and not the way Congressman should act. No one should be supporting or making excuses for this sleezeball.
Amanpour had an interesting panel this morning about how this has never happens with women. We conduct ourselves with maturity. Let the boys take a lesson.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:46:20am |
An observation: The militia slobs and gunshop commandos who display their weapons at public events look a whole more serious to foreign eyes than they do to us. Just a fact, foreigners are not familiar with American gun culture, especially some of the fringe aspects. When they see guys in camouflage and waving black guns around, they assume an insurrection is right around the corner. Something to keep in mind.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:47:03am |
That’s interesting how he thinks he can overturn established law like that.
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McSpiff Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:47:42am |
re: #51 Shiplord Kirel
An observation: The militia slobs and gunshop commandos who display their weapons at public events look a whole more serious to foreign eyes than they do to us. Just a fact, foreigners are not familiar with American gun culture, especially some of the fringe aspects. When they see guys in camouflage and waving black guns around, they assume an insurrection is right around the corner. Something to keep in mind.
I’m Canadian and I still think a lot of Americans are downplaying what could be a serious problem as a mere cultural oddity..
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:48:37am |
re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Except for Christine O’Donnell, of course.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:49:16am |
I sure hope the GOP finds me somebody to love.
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Lidane Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:49:22am |
re: #51 Shiplord Kirel
An observation: The militia slobs and gunshop commandos who display their weapons at public events look a whole more serious to foreign eyes than they do to us. Just a fact, foreigners are not familiar with American gun culture, especially some of the fringe aspects. When they see guys in camouflage and waving black guns around, they assume an insurrection is right around the corner. Something to keep in mind.
Just wait until November 2012. Should Obama win a second term, those same militia slobs and gunshop commandos will totally flip their shit. So will a lot of Freeper/teabagger types.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:49:41am |
re: #55 PhillyPretzel
Damn. A Santorum banner ad.
Maybe if I type Debbie Wasserman-Schultz a few times, it’ll cancel that out :)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:50:01am |
re: #54 Obdicut
In theory those things are really easy to say.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:50:49am |
re: #17 darthstar
His children will all be in psychotherapy when they get to college.
You think his children are going to college?
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:52:41am |
re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist
Like the compulsory schooling he will not find a college that teaches what he wants his kids to learn.
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Lidane Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:54:13am |
re: #17 darthstar
His children will all be in psychotherapy when they get to college.
The day that any of them comes out will be a memorable one, I’m sure.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:54:24am |
re: #23 Lidane
He should hop onto the reality show gravy train. It works for the Duggars and their brood.
He’s not as interesting. They only have seven kids, and their names aren’t as darling.
Also, while he doesn’t want to admit it, the Catholic angle would actually be quite scary for some of the base he so determinedly courts.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:54:54am |
By the way, I saw the picture of Rep Giffords this morning. She looks great, but that man took something from her, and seeing her made me sad.
I wish the shooter had been one of those guys who blew his own brains out after something like that. (Actually, I wish he would have blown his brains out before doing something like that.)
Stay strong, Rep. Giffords. We’re rooting for you.
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Winny Spencer Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:55:47am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Great comment. I concur.
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:56:14am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I still pray for her everyday.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:56:49am |
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:57:42am |
re: #57 Lidane
Just wait until November 2012. Should Obama win a second term, those same militia slobs and gunshop commandos will totally flip their shit. So will a lot of Freeper/teabagger types.
re: #53 McSpiff
I’m Canadian and I still think a lot of Americans are downplaying what could be a serious problem as a mere cultural oddity..
There could be a big upsurge in individual acts of violence, of the kind we have seen several times so far on a small scale, sniping, shoot-outs with the authorities etc. I don’t think these people can maintain enough organization and discipline to present a serious threat to the social order even on a local scale. The only exception would be in a catastrophic “shit-hits-the-fan” situation where real authority has broken down for some reason. Even then, the kooks could not take effective control, but their actions could seriously inhibit efforts to re-establish services and re-assert legitimate authority. Even this would only last as long as it took to assemble a strong enough force to subdue them.
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elizajane Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:00:14am |
re: #41 marjoriemoon
And the elevator for the Weiner scandal is going dowwwnnn.
TMZ posted new pics taken inside the House Members Gym. One is naked, others he’s grabbing his crotch.
[Link: photos.tmz.com…]
He’s got to go!
I saw this too and like you, it tipped me over the edge.
The 17-year-old I had thought was much ado about nothing: the right-wing media was doing a lot more harm to that girl than Weiner ever did.
But the locker-room pix? I don’t really care if they were in the House Gym or not. The man’s ego is taking up too much space in the political universe. And somebody with a maturity level below the voting age should not be representing thinking adults in congress.
(Of course, this would eliminate “Diapers” Vitter, too).
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:00:48am |
re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah. She’s changed. I don’t know how much you can get back after something like this.
Granted, she looks damn good for someone who suffered that kind of trauma.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:01:12am |
re: #55 PhillyPretzel
Damn. A Santorum banner ad.
An LGF subscription will keep your browsing clean and Santorum-Banner Free!
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:02:08am |
re: #65 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I wish the shooter had been one of those guys who blew his own brains out after something like that. (Actually, I wish he would have blown his brains out before doing something like that.
Yeah it is great to see her. I hope she can continue with her speech therapy, seems like her capacities for thought are there but the communication/speech is frustrating for her.
I hear you and at some moments wish he did shoot himself, but I think it’s good that he’s still alive because there is the potential to learn something more. It will be painful because he will remind us of the event, especially if there’s a trial. But the possibility of learning something from this gives hope.
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Lidane Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:02:18am |
re: #69 Shiplord Kirel
re: #53 McSpiff
There could be a big upsurge in individual acts of violence, of the kind we have seen several times so far on a small scale, sniping, shoot-outs with the authorities etc. I don’t think these people can maintain enough organization and discipline to present a serious threat to the social order even on a local scale.
Oh, I agree. I don’t think any of them would be organized enough to cause a serious breakdown in social order. But I do think we’ll see more crazy and an upswing in “patriots” deciding to “take back their country” should Obama get re-elected. The way the right became unbalanced when he won can only increase if he wins again.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:02:27am |
re: #72 jaunte
An LGF subscription will keep your browsing clean and Santorum-Banner Free!
After I’m banned will I still have to pay?
/
snicker
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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:02:52am |
re: #72 jaunte
Thank you. I am on a very tight budget it is called Chapter 13 bankruptcy.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:02:59am |
re: #75 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think you might be able to negotiate a steep discount…
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:02:59am |
re: #73 BigPapa
I think he’s in the nuthouse.
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jaunte Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:03:50am |
re: #76 PhillyPretzel
Sorry about that; I hope you get through it soon.
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McSpiff Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:05:36am |
re: #69 Shiplord Kirel
re: #53 McSpiff
There could be a big upsurge in individual acts of violence, of the kind we have seen several times so far on a small scale, sniping, shoot-outs with the authorities etc. I don’t think these people can maintain enough organization and discipline to present a serious threat to the social order even on a local scale. The only exception would be in a catastrophic “shit-hits-the-fan” situation where real authority has broken down for some reason. Even then, the kooks could not take effective control, but their actions could seriously inhibit efforts to re-establish services and re-assert legitimate authority. Even this would only last as long as it took to assemble a strong enough force to subdue them.
Right, never meant to suggest that we’d see the fall of the federal government or anything like that. But there’s a long ways between a functioning society and full scale civil war. You’d really only need a core group of 500-2,500 to cause an amazing amount of havoc.
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ProBosniaLiberal Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:06:39am |
I just realized that the subtitle for the most recent Pirates of the Caribbean movie aptly describes the past six months well.
On Stranger Tides.
This has been a weird year.
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:07:42am |
re: #78 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think he’s in the nuthouse.
I’d put money on the nuthouse too. I’m surprised it’s taken this long to figure out if he’s competent for trial, but it’s working through the system now.
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What, me worry? Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:08:23am |
re: #70 elizajane
I saw this too and like you, it tipped me over the edge.
The 17-year-old I had thought was much ado about nothing: the right-wing media was doing a lot more harm to that girl than Weiner ever did.
But the locker-room pix? I don’t really care if they were in the House Gym or not. The man’s ego is taking up too much space in the political universe. And somebody with a maturity level below the voting age should not be representing thinking adults in congress.
(Of course, this would eliminate “Diapers” Vitter, too).
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was great on MTP this morning. She gave a good smack down to Priebus (mentioning Ensign and Vitter) when he accused her of supporting Weiner. Which she DID before we found out he was lying.
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Kronocide Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:08:41am |
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HoosierHoops Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:09:37am |
re: #84 marjoriemoon
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was great on MTP this morning. She gave a good smack down to Priebus (mentioning Ensign and Vitter) when he accused her of supporting Weiner. Which she DID before we found out he was lying.
I’ve always liked her.. Sharp lady
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windsagio Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:20:02am |
re: #70 elizajane
Gotta admit, I have very little idea why those pictures would ever be a turning point.
Seems like much ado about nothing.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:30:04am |
We might see more right-wing violence for the same reason people like Santorum feel confident in advocating the evasion or outright defiance of established law. That is the great effort the right-wing media have put into undermining the legitimacy of the judicial branch over the last 25 years or so. It is an article of faith on the right that most of our problems are rooted in the tendency of liberal “activist judges” to make it up as they go along. Roe v. Wade is perceived as an activist ruling made by a liberal court during the Nixon administration. To hear Limbaugh, Hannity etc. tell it, the Ninth Circuit is a bunch of old hippies wearing Che t-shirts under their robes. The right accuses these judges of deviating from the intent and principles of the Founding Fathers. This may also be why they are so intent on re-writing the early days of the Republic and distorting the views and motives of the Founding Fathers. The overall effect is to portray the law as an onerous technicality in opposition to “true” American principles. Lawlessness fallows from this as surely as night follows day.
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Jun 12, 2011 11:34:58am |
Goldberg gets it right.
[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sun, Jun 12, 2011 12:07:56pm |
re: #53 McSpiff
I’m Canadian and I still think a lot of Americans are downplaying what could be a serious problem as a mere cultural oddity..
What was perhaps left specifically unspoken there but alluded to was “American Gun Culture” which means that the Lefties have them too. They do, there about twenty million more firearms in this country than there are citizens according to the ATF (although some studies place the number “as low” as 223,000,000). Sure the Righties like to go on at length about how the left fears and loathes guns and they could take over any time they wanted if they just got together and did it, but it isn’t true.
America has always been an armed nation, and we have had armed uprisings and splinter factions throughout our history, especially in the lead up to the civil war. Just as in our politics there is no overwhelming majority on either side, it would be a brutal bloody battle that would in the end simply return us to the status quo. For all their bluster I think that the vast majority of the Rightwing armed fringe groups realize this.
They continue to froth at the mouth about the perversion and constitutional drift of this country away from some idyllic era that never existed. If you know this countries history then you know that they are wishing for a shared delusion. :(
However except for a tiny few they also know they have no chance of overthrowing the government by force of arms. They will continue to rant and rave and lie and attempt to rewrite history in order to gain more converts to their side. Until they accomplish that and add substantially to their ranks nothing is going to happen. Funny, both the real ally and enemy in this endlessly brooding and entirely theoretical pseudo war is the media and how it is used to shape public opinion.
If ever we get to the point that NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN sound like FOX? Then this country will be lost.
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watching you tiny alien kittens are Sun, Jun 12, 2011 12:11:05pm |
re: #55 PhillyPretzel
Damn. A Santorum banner ad.
I don’t ever see any ads because I help support Charles by subscribing to this site! :p
*This has been a public pimp message brought to you by ausador*
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sagehen Sun, Jun 12, 2011 1:26:38pm |
re: #17 darthstar
His children will all be in psychotherapy when they get to college.
You don’t really think he’ll let them go to college? Where all those liberal elites are?
Unless it’s some whacked out religious college where they do exorcisms instead of psychotherapy….
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Sun, Jun 12, 2011 2:24:09pm |
re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist
That’s interesting how he thinks he can overturn established law like that.
Nothing new. Arizona aims to empower the state to ignore federal law, because fuck it.
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gandalf.il Sun, Jun 12, 2011 3:47:52pm |
I just googled him to see who this guy is.
Oh Man…….
And I thought his statement was disgusting…
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The Ghost of a Flea Sun, Jun 12, 2011 6:08:01pm |
re: #51 Shiplord Kirel
An observation: The militia slobs and gunshop commandos who display their weapons at public events look a whole more serious to foreign eyes than they do to us. Just a fact, foreigners are not familiar with American gun culture, especially some of the fringe aspects. When they see guys in camouflage and waving black guns around, they assume an insurrection is right around the corner. Something to keep in mind.
Think about how many nations have one or more guerilla political groups running around hitting opportunistic targets.
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:13:37am |
Republicans are for less government except when they’re for more.
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Bulworth Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:15:11am |
re: #15 darthstar
Rick Santorum will drop out of the presidential race right after Newt Gingrich. The guy’s been out of work for four years and has seven kids to feed. You’d think he’d find another job already.
I think he gets wingnut welfare from someplace. Like he’s a “visiting scholar” or some such thing at some or another “institute”.
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