The previous thread for the GOP debate is filling up fast, so here’s a new one.
So far, these candidates have advocated destroying the EPA, NASA, the Federal Reserve, the FDA, Medicare and Medicaid, and Social Security.
Government stinks. Vote for me!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:17:58pm |
This isn't a debate, it's one long joke. With a very bad punchline.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:18:07pm |
Romney pitched the opportunity to announce the Bruins score.
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Kronocide Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:19:14pm |
I wonder what Cain things about pictures of Obama photoshopped with monkeys. That would be a good question.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:19:25pm |
States rights...to enshrine bigotry in the law!
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3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:19:26pm |
"It should be left up to the states as long as I agree with it. If I don't like it, it will be a federal mandate."
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mr.fusion Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:19:32pm |
re: #1 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
This isn't a debate, it's one long joke. With a very bad punchline.
It's just the same old crap regurgitated on CNN's ridiculous debate set
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:19:56pm |
re: #1 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
This isn't a debate, it's one long joke. With a very bad punchline.
To paraphrase;
"Debate is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes."
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:20:43pm |
Paul: Get the government out of marriage!!
What happens to divorce, get rid of that?
Custody of children?
Property rights?
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Jerk Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:20:44pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:20:49pm |
Didn't this country have the debate on a constitutional amendment and poll heavily against it? Or did I just suffer a stroke?
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:21:19pm |
The "states" people are in denial of the problem of contracts across state borders.
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Gus Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:21:22pm |
Ron Paul hates the government so much that's why he's been sucking on the government teet all of his life. Straight from the USAF and into politics. Not counting the government being involved in his education.
Too. Funny.
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mr.fusion Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:21:42pm |
re: #16 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Didn't this country have the debate on a constitutional amendment and poll heavily against it? Or did I just suffer a stroke?
Following the will of the American people only applies to "Obamacare"
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:21:47pm |
re: #13 marjoriemoon
Paul: Get the government out of marriage!!
What happens to divorce, get rid of that?
Custody of children?
Property rights?
As long as there are tax laws and property rights tied to marriage, government will be involved.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:22:05pm |
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Gus Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:22:12pm |
re: #13 marjoriemoon
Paul: Get the government out of marriage!!
What happens to divorce, get rid of that?
Custody of children?
Property rights?
Alright! No more questions from you!
//
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:22:39pm |
My fellow Americans, government doesn't work, and if I elected I vow to prove it to you!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:22:45pm |
They ask about reinstating DADT...and they all punt.
Ho-hum.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:22:57pm |
Which commanders are Newt talking about?
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Sionainn Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:23:11pm |
re: #22 marjoriemoon
Sorry, you can't marry :(
Good thing I got married already. What a bunch of assholes.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:23:42pm |
This CNN "host" refuses to ask the obvious followup questions.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:24:04pm |
Nearly all of them would be in favor of firing thousands of gay service members (during wartime) who are already known to be gay after Obama leaves because of dadt ending.
Un-frakking-believabe
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Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:24:16pm |
None of the candidates are electable - they have all snorted too much Koch.
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3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:24:16pm |
Open homosexuality is social experimentation? Wow, society has been "experimenting" with that for an awful long time.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:24:20pm |
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Obdicut Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:24:24pm |
re: #29 freetoken
This CNN "host" refuses to ask the obvious followup questions.
Anyone who thought we had a left-wing media is being disabused of that notion tonight.
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:24:42pm |
re: #29 freetoken
This CNN "host" refuses to ask the obvious followup questions.
He's about as effective as the Vancouver Canucks goalie :/
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:25:28pm |
re: #32 3CPO
Open homosexuality is social experimentation? Wow, society has been "experimenting" with that for
an awful long timethe last 5000 years or so.
Yep.
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mr.fusion Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:25:49pm |
re: #31 Robert O.
None of the candidates are electable - they have all snorted too much Koch.
Never underestimate an uneducated electorate
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:25:52pm |
By the way, Michelle, did you mention that you took in 23 foster children? You did? Well, why not mention it yet again. *rolls eyes*
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:26:02pm |
Those 23 foster children were in the hands of her pray-away-the-gay husband.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:26:08pm |
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Gus Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:26:24pm |
The only person allowed to misuse his penis is Newt Gingrich.
God said so. I know this because Newt told me as much.
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FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:26:38pm |
"I'm pro-life, because I've had 5 babies and 23 foster children"
-Michelle Bachmann
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3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:26:41pm |
"Creator." Not God. Our creator could be the universe, evolution, chance...
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:27:00pm |
At least two of the CNN worker bees in the audience will ask the right questions. But the host refuses to call the candidates when they contradict themselves or each other.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:27:31pm |
Now they're insisting that women who are raped or are victims of incest should be forced to bear their molesters' children.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:27:58pm |
re: #51 albusteve
Michelle is pro rape
Make lemonade from the lemons of life being brutally raped and getting pregnant.
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3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:27:59pm |
He appointed a conservative court? I thought they were against judges with an "agenda."
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:28:00pm |
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Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:28:09pm |
re: #53 Charles
Now they're insisting that women who are raped or are victims of incest should be forced to bear their molesters' children.
A horrifically immoral position to hold.
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Gus Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:28:11pm |
re: #52 Major Tom
It's better in it's original German.
They're all shaking their index fingers violently behind the podiums.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:29:12pm |
re: #53 Charles
Now they're insisting that women who are raped or are victims of incest should be forced to bear their molesters' children.
And the Democrats now have a hell of a campaign ad.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:29:20pm |
re: #53 Charles
Now they're insisting that women who are raped or are victims of incest should be forced to bear their molesters' children.
God's plan.
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3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:29:37pm |
With all due respect, Rick, I'm pretty sure it was a lot easier for your grandfather to enter this country than it is for immigrants today.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:29:39pm |
Ron Paul doesn't answer the question, "do you deny a 5 year old immigrant child healthcare."
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:30:15pm |
re: #56 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I prefer it in the original Klingon.
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I think the Klingons would target this debate with massed disrupters and have a mug of ale afterwards.
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Jerk Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:30:19pm |
Should illegal immigrant children get care in an ER? Ron Paul: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:30:25pm |
Is there a border between Iraq and Afghanistan? I'm pretty sure Iran is in between.
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FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:30:35pm |
It's only a small percentage? Rape victims are only a small percentage of those who participate in abortions? Is there such a thing as following up on tossed around "facts?"
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:30:43pm |
... there was a time when government didn't make people use sewers and one could just dump their shit out the window, too...
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:30:53pm |
re: #62 marjoriemoon
Ron Paul doesn't answer the question, "do you deny a 5 year old immigrant child healthcare."
Has he actually answered any of the questions tossing to him? It seems like every question to him is a reason to start nattering off again.
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Kronocide Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:30:55pm |
There was a time when government didn't take care of everything
There was a time we paid $50 and two cows for a 12 year old bride as well dipshit.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:31:03pm |
Cain has a lot of can kicking down the road going on.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:31:18pm |
Paul hits another one....'we should protect our own border rather than Pak/Afghan borders'
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:31:23pm |
re: #66 Killgore Trout
Is there a border between Iraq and Afghanistan? I'm pretty sure Iran is in between.
Persia doesn't count.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:31:37pm |
If Emperor Palpatine were in this debate I don't think he'd sound all that bad in comparison...
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:31:39pm |
So Cain says that a child legally born here (if up to him) would not be a citizen, "but everybody gets care."
Another lyin sack.
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Major Tom Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:31:42pm |
I love Cain's lists. First, Identify the problem.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:32:27pm |
re: #75 JasonA
If Emperor Palpatine were in this debate I don't think he'd sound all that bad in comparison...
The man could talk, you have to give him that.
Well, and his opposition was stupid.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:32:37pm |
re: #77 Major Tom
First, have a list.
Second, enumerate that list.
Three, make sure the numbers are less than the count of your fingers.
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sagehen Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:33:16pm |
re: #40 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
By the way, Michelle, did you mention that you took in 23 foster children? You did? Well, why not mention it yet again. *rolls eyes*
BTW, how much per child does the State of Minnesota pay foster parents? Is it more or less than the farm subsidies she got from the federal government?
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dell*nix Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:33:31pm |
None of them are answering the questions asked. A whole lot of side stepping.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:33:32pm |
lol @ Gingrich complaining about "Washington elites."
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Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:33:40pm |
re: #75 JasonA
If Emperor Palpatine were in this debate I don't think he'd sound all that bad in comparison...
Pfft. Palpatine is a RINO. And Cthulhu is a squishy librul. =P
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Major Tom Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:05pm |
They waste their time. All they have to do is say a combination of the words Red Dawn, Reagan, Shock and Awe, Northern Agression.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:06pm |
Birthright citizenship. Now they want to kick it old school...as in ancient Sparta old school. Maybe we can also have the yearly declaration of war on the Helots Mexican immigrant workers.
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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:23pm |
I'm frightened, Newt is making sense.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:30pm |
I'm beginning to feel nauseous. The US is in big trouble if these people are the best representatives of one of our two political parties.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:37pm |
re: #77 Major Tom
I love Cain's lists. First, Identify the problem.
Just so long as the list does not exceed 3 pages long.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:40pm |
Yes, humane, practical steps...that the GOP's not willing to list, because they're scared shitless they'd actually have to endorse some form of citizenship for illegals.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:50pm |
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Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:34:54pm |
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BongCrodny Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:35:09pm |
I didn't think it possible for my opinion of the Republican presidential candidates to go down, given how low it started.
Congratulations, guys. You've proved me wrong.
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jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:35:19pm |
None of these people would admit that US business interests want a porous border and a cheap labor supply.
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sagehen Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:35:27pm |
re: #61 3CPO
With all due respect, Rick, I'm pretty sure it was a lot easier for your grandfather to enter this country than it is for immigrants today.
I'm about Rick's age, more or less -- my grandparents came here illegally.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:35:53pm |
re: #88 bloodstar
I'm frightened, Newt is making sense.
Don't worry. Rush'll tell him he's wrong tomorrow and that portion of the debate will have been a lie...
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:35:55pm |
re: #94 BongCrodny
They're making CNN look stupid.. or.. er... maybe the other way 'round, I'm not sure.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:36:02pm |
re: #95 jaunte
None of these people would admit that US business interests want a porous border and a cheap labor supply.
They're running for the GOP's nomination, of course they're not going to piss off their campaign contributors.
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Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:36:37pm |
re: #99 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
They're running for the GOP's nomination, of course they're not going to piss off their campaign contributors by publicly admitting the truth.
FTFY :)
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BongCrodny Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:36:57pm |
re: #85 Major Tom
They waste their time. All they have to do is say a combination of the words Red Dawn, Reagan, Shock and Awe, Northern Agression.
If one of them yelled "Wolverines!" from the podium, he'd probably go up ten points in the polling.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:37:00pm |
Uh-oh, he mentioned nukes and renewables on the same level as fossil fuels! STONE HIM!
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:37:03pm |
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:37:46pm |
The US is in big trouble if these people are the best representatives of one of our two political parties.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:37:51pm |
Santorium's facial features are all crunched up in the center of his face.
Just an observation :p
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:37:53pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:38:26pm |
They actually asked it. Coke or Pepsi. We're through the looking glass here, folks.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:38:27pm |
Holy crap, who said Coke or Pepsi on the other thread?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:38:36pm |
re: #108 marjoriemoon
Santorium's facial features are all crunched up in the center of his face.
Just an observation :p
That's him relaxed.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:38:47pm |
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:38:58pm |
re: #107 Charles
The US is in big trouble if these people are the best representatives of one of our two political parties.
I always wondered just what it might have been like to live in Weimar Germany.
We all may get to find out. Win!
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:38:59pm |
Holy crap. What's next?
"Mr. Gingrich. Puppies or kittens?"
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Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:39:07pm |
re: #105 albusteve
LOL!...yet he's up there
True. But when your own campaign staff quits on you that's not exactly a vote of confidence for your chances.
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dell*nix Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:39:27pm |
re: #113 marjoriemoon
At least it got a definate and fast answer.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:39:36pm |
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Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:39:46pm |
re: #112 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
They actually asked it. Coke or Pepsi. We're through the looking glass here, folks.
Are you serious? AHAHAHAHAHA!
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3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:40:01pm |
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:40:05pm |
re: #119 Lidane
True. But when your own campaign staff quits on you that's not exactly a vote of confidence for your chances.
whatever....nice move
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sagehen Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:40:05pm |
re: #118 JasonA
Holy crap. What's next?
"Mr. Gingrich. Puppies or kittens?"
That's a DailyKos question, for all their interviews. You're a commuslikenyan infiltrator.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:40:06pm |
re: #108 marjoriemoon
Santorium's facial features are all crunched up in the center of his face.
Just an observation :p
Thinking of frothy mixtures of lube and feces does that to him. He thinks about it a lot, from what I can see.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:40:34pm |
Hah! What they show on TV as the "twitter" question is so unrepresentative of what is going on #CNNdebate ... this whole "debate" is a work to get CNN some friendship points with the candidates so they'll have more access to the leaders (Romney, Pawlenty) of the pack.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:40:38pm |
re: #121 b_sharp
How goes it political lizards?
We're all either making prayers to our deity of choice that none of these losers wins the presidency, or slowly succumbing to alcohol poisoning. So, typical debate atmosphere.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:40:44pm |
re: #124 3CPO
Please see comment #288 on the previous thread.
Your welcome.
Ok, you and the other fellow have to share the grand prize :)
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Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:41:11pm |
re: #128 Major Tom
Everyone is
pushingbegging Christie to run.
After reading about what these clowns are saying, I'm not surprised.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:41:22pm |
"Clean coal" simply does not exist. It's a fraud, perpetrated by the industries that benefit from dirty old coal. And they know they're lying.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:41:47pm |
re: #22 marjoriemoon
Especially not each other!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:42:03pm |
re: #134 Charles
"Clean coal" simply does not exist. It's a fraud, perpetrated by the industries that benefit from dirty old coal. And they know they're lying.
No way! And next, you'll say that natural gas is not a clean fuel!
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:42:11pm |
Uh oh. Foreign policy kicking their ass and taking their gas.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:42:11pm |
if you blinked you missed the gay/abortion segment
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theheat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:42:20pm |
re: #134 Charles
But with the proposed labor laws, kids will fit so nicely in those coal mines.
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sagehen Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:42:50pm |
Now I want to run for President just so I can fuck with their questions.
Coke or Pepsi? Dr Pepper.
I-Phone or Blackberry? Droid.
Johnny Cash or Elvis? Muddy Waters (or, since it's such a white audience, Frank Sinatra).
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:42:53pm |
One of the better tweets recently:
@rodimusprime
rodimusprime
Rosetta Stone was used by Mitt Romney to learn how to speak fringe right wing talking points in only a few months!
CNN won't be showing that one.
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darthstar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:43:06pm |
Romney fucks up, then says he wants to start by thanking the veteran? WTF?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:43:08pm |
No, the generals are not in charge of going to war or coming out. They just fight them. Asshole.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:43:12pm |
*facepalm* "Taliban military"...mon dieu.
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sagehen Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:43:26pm |
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FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:43:31pm |
Oh Romney, shove it. I don't know who you think is buying into your shtick.
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Kronocide Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:43:34pm |
re: #134 Charles
"Clean coal" simply does not exist. It's a fraud, perpetrated by the industries that benefit from dirty old coal. And they know they're lying.
We can have none tumorous radiation too. You gottta have faith.
Half the radiation of other isotopes
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darthstar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:44:04pm |
Charles should tweet a right-wing talking point to CNN and get it aired on TV...it would blow the fucking stalkers' heads off.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:44:12pm |
re: #145 sagehen
Now I want to run for President just so I can fuck with their questions.
Coke or Pepsi? Dr Pepper.
I-Phone or Blackberry? Droid.
Johnny Cash or Elvis? Muddy Waters (or, since it's such a white audience, Frank Sinatra).
Updinged for Droid and nothing else.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:44:17pm |
re: #148 Decatur Deb
No, the generals are not in charge of going to war or coming out. They just fight them. Asshole.
It's the punt of of choice. "Well, I'm not going to say one way or another, not without first polling the generals...so that I know who to blame when I frak up."
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:44:17pm |
CNN TV has a quicker Live feed than online.
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:44:30pm |
re: #130 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
We're all either making prayers to our deity of choice that none of these losers wins the presidency, or slowly succumbing to alcohol poisoning. So, typical debate atmosphere.
Right arm!
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darthstar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:44:42pm |
I can't believe I'm missing Rachel for this.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:44:48pm |
'Kay, I'm back. Did I miss the serious question portion of the slide show, or are they still on the "Donald Duck or Daffy Duck" bullshit?
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:45:13pm |
re: #144 JasonA
"Mr. Santorum.
Blondes or brunettes?"<//strike self flagellation or a chilace on your lag?blockquote>
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Kronocide Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:45:22pm |
re: #153 marjoriemoon
Ron Paul, "USA out of everywhere!"
USA out of USA! Less government out of our lives and the Taliban's lives.
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:45:40pm |
re: #134 Charles
"Clean coal" simply does not exist. It's a fraud, perpetrated by the industries that benefit from dirty old coal. And they know they're lying.
Pandering to the scientific illiterate has become a real science.
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Major Tom Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:45:42pm |
re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
Ron Paul Punched Pawlenty. Naw not really.
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Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:45:50pm |
Re-interpreted:
Ron Paul: "Osama bin Laden will be alive if I was the Commander in Chief. I view his killing as morally wrong."
Ah! That's more accurate.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:46:07pm |
re: #148 Decatur Deb
No, the generals are not in charge of going to war or coming out. They just fight them. Asshole.
Holy shit. We are now going to give war declaration decision making to the military??
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jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:46:10pm |
re: #163 BigPapa
Ron Paul has been around so long, he invented the power vacuum.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:46:21pm |
And now, we watch the candidates explain why the GOP is suddenly totally against taking us into needless wars. *rolls eyes*
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FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:46:33pm |
Am I the only one who cringes at all the obligatory "gratitude" they give to anyone with a military background? My thing is there is a time and place, and here it gets reduced to ad nauseam.
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Jerk Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:46:49pm |
re: #170 jaunte
Ron Paul has been around so long, he invented the power vacuum.
Ron Paul has been around so long, he runs the risk of getting sucked into his own invention.
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Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:46:50pm |
They gave Bachmann a microphone? OMG!!!
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:46:51pm |
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:01pm |
Great follow-up that won't be asked: "Michelle, why does this all matter for Libya...but not for Iraq?"
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Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:10pm |
Can someone please remind these Republicans that THEIR PARTY thought Obama fiddled for too long before getting the US involved in Libya, and they also wanted us to get involved in Egypt as well?
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Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:11pm |
"Bow before the USA, world!" = GOP Diplomacy!
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:40pm |
re: #178 Robert O.
Can someone please remind these Republicans that THEIR PARTY thought Obama fiddled for too long before getting the US involved in Libya, and they also wanted us to get involved in Egypt as well?
Details, details...
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:41pm |
Republicans opposed to Libyan intervention. You can't write comedy like this.
| 183 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:45pm |
re: #145 sagehen
Coke or Pepsi?
Mexican Coke or Dublin Dr. Pepper
I-Phone or Blackberry?
Windows Phone
Johnny Cash or Elvis?
Cash, of course.
| 184 |
theheat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:46pm |
re: #173 tacuba14
They have strings you can pull in the back of their neck that have several phrases similar to "God bless the troops!" they whip out whenever they want to look extra patrioty.
| 185 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:47:57pm |
If a Republican was bombing Libya, they would be having orgasms of support for it with the exception of Ron Paul.
| 186 |
FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:20pm |
re: #175 JasonA
They gave Bachmann a microphone? OMG!!!
She's on the intelligence committee, watch it! She has mad smartz.
| 187 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:24pm |
Our intelligence is so inadequate NEWT, that we popped a cap in Osama's head, so F off.
| 188 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:28pm |
re: #181 Charles
Republicans opposed to Libyan intervention. You can't write comedy like this.
Not just opposed to it, but opposed for all the reasons that they claimed didn't matter when we "shocked and awed" Iraq.
| 189 |
webevintage Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:30pm |
re: #159 darthstar
I can't believe I'm missing Rachel for this.
I couldn't force myself.
I'm watching Maddow instead.
She just listed all the real news that happened today and the lack of serious coverage vs. coverage of Weiner.
Bob Herbert is annoying me....
| 190 |
darthstar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:30pm |
re: #181 Charles
Republicans opposed to Libyan intervention. You can't write comedy like this.
THey're just trying to protect sharia law from Democracy.
| 191 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:33pm |
re: #168 celticdragon
Holy shit. We are now going to give war declaration decision making to the military??
For a party that fetishizes the Constitution, they don't know a damn thing about it.
| 192 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:42pm |
Gingrich is running the table, saying each of his opponents has taken the correct position.
| 193 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:49pm |
Is it a lie to say that Gringich wanted strikes in Libya on day 1?
| 194 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:50pm |
re: #181 Charles
Republicans opposed to Libyan intervention. You can't write comedy like this.
They were for it before they quickly discovered that they were against it Obama was for it.
| 195 |
ProBosniaLiberal Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:48:53pm |
re: #181 Charles
Which drives me up a wall, if one couldn't tell.
| 197 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:49:07pm |
The Overton Window has moved so far into the far right that this group of candidates can't even articulate that we are a member of NATO.
| 198 |
elizajane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:49:10pm |
re: #186 tacuba14
She's on the intelligence committee, watch it! She has mad smartz.
Matters big if she wants to be Romney's VP nominee: she will be the foreign policy and security expert.
Somebody pass me the smelling salts.
| 199 |
darthstar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:49:14pm |
re: #193 JasonA
Is it a lie to say that Gringich wanted strikes in Libya on day 1?
Only if you quote him.
| 200 |
darthstar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:49:46pm |
I now understand why Glenn Beck is quitting. Art can't imitate life this much.
| 201 |
3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:49:51pm |
Oh, great. Base our foreign policy on Cain's grandma's opinion.
| 202 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:49:57pm |
Military cuts question...which will likely be punted upon, except for Luap Nor.
| 203 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:49:59pm |
Romney looks like he might have hemorrhoid problems.
| 204 |
sagehen Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:00pm |
re: #155 JasonA
Updinged for Droid and nothing else.
Not for Muddy or Frank?
What if I'd said Springsteen? Or Woody Guthrie? Or Ella Fitzgerald?
| 206 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:10pm |
They were for Libya before they were against it.
| 207 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:14pm |
Cain:
There are known unknowns and unknown unknowns...including my pizza ingredients.
| 208 |
Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:19pm |
re: #191 Lidane
For a party that fetishizes the Constitution, they don't know a damn thing about it.
The Constitution is too holy to be sullied with reading.
| 209 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:24pm |
re: #204 sagehen
Not for Muddy or Frank?
What if I'd said Springsteen? Or Woody Guthrie? Or Ella Fitzgerald?
Yes, no, yes. :)
| 210 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:29pm |
re: #193 JasonA
Is it a lie to say that Gringich wanted strikes in Libya on day 1?
There is a lot of confusion on that. Newt can't help, he lost track.
| 211 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:34pm |
re: #202 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Military cuts question...which will likely be punted upon, except for Luap Nor.
Santorum bravely blaming the current admin.
| 212 |
elizajane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:37pm |
re: #203 freetoken
Romney looks like he might have hemorrhoid problems.
I do not have audio but I've definitely got "Romneystare."
| 213 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:51pm |
re: #207 celticdragon
Cain:
There are known unknowns and unknown unknowns...including my pizza ingredients.
Deep dish, honey, deep dish.
| 214 |
Major Tom Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:51pm |
Palin really needs to jet-pack onto the stage right now.
| 215 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:50:57pm |
re: #211 jaunte
Santorum bravely blaming the current admin.
And playing the usual "We need bases everywhere, JUST IN CASE!" card.
| 216 |
Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:01pm |
Military bases overseas are a policy failure of Obama? ROFLMAO!!!
| 217 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:08pm |
We went into debt up to our eyeballs from day one when it came to "nation building". Something like $25M in debt fighting the revolutionary war and building America.
| 218 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:15pm |
I really have no idea what they're talking about anymore.
| 219 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:18pm |
re: #134 Charles
"Clean coal" simply does not exist. It's a fraud, perpetrated by the industries that benefit from dirty old coal. And they know they're lying.
Yeah, it's one of several things as an Obama voter I disagreed with him on.
| 220 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:22pm |
| 221 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:28pm |
Frothy mix:
Obama sux cause he doesn't have a plan fer asymetric threats...except for all those drone strikes I made fun of.
Also, Europe hates us...but they love Obama. Or something.
| 223 |
BongCrodny Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:34pm |
I'm thinking that Huntsman wins this debate.
| 224 |
Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:36pm |
re: #214 Major Tom
Palin really needs to jet-pack onto the stage right now.
I vote bus ramming through wall, Koolaid Man style.
| 225 |
Jerk Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:39pm |
Santorum: Our enemies no longer respect us.
What did we do???
| 226 |
Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:42pm |
Our enemies no longer respect us?
Al Qaeda respected us before?
What?!?
| 227 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:48pm |
Bin Laden is dead. Feckless. :sigh:
| 228 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:51pm |
Feckless!!
Now that's the word of the evening.
| 229 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:51:56pm |
re: #216 Robert O.
Military bases overseas are a policy failure of Obama? ROFLMAO!!!
The tides are a policy failure of Obama.
| 230 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:52:14pm |
re: #225 Jerk
Santorum: Our enemies no longer respect us.
What did we do???
We dated their sisters or something.
| 233 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:52:22pm |
re: #220 Lidane
Do what now?
Once again, it's "Obama isn't being enough of a leader by being a 'strong, decisive leader,' like the swaggering Texan who just left office."
| 236 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:52:53pm |
re: #220 Lidane
Do what now?
I am trying to understand that bit of fail myself.
I think I need a drink.
| 237 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:52:55pm |
re: #233 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Careful, Rick Perry will materialize.
| 238 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:53:09pm |
Oh, just stop pretending. The Libyan intervention came from Obama, so they're opposed to it. Otherwise they'd be screaming, "Bomb Libya!"
| 239 |
Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:53:14pm |
re: #226 eclectic infidel
Our enemies no longer respect us?
Al Qaeda respected us before?
What?!?
Bin Laden no longer respects us. He did briefly, for a split second, then never again.
| 240 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:53:24pm |
| 241 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:53:25pm |
re: #224 Charleston Chew
I vote bus ramming through wall, Koolaid Man style.
Zip lines in, knocks the moderator out, then kisses Ron Paul.
| 242 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:53:29pm |
| 243 |
FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:53:47pm |
re: #229 Decatur Deb
The tides are a policy failure of Obama.
It's opposite day for the GOP today. If Obama has done it, just jump on the other side, regardless of what they really think.
| 244 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:53:51pm |
re: #228 marjoriemoon
Feckless!!
Now that's the word of the evening.
He just said that we're worthless, ineffective, weak, and irresponsible. I bet Bin Laden wishes that were true.
| 246 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:06pm |
re: #238 Charles
Oh, just stop pretending. The Libyan intervention came from Obama, so they're opposed to it. Otherwise they'd be screaming, "Bomb Libya!"
They were screaming "Bomb Libya!"...right up until we started doing so, when they suddenly decided that taking us into another war was a "bad thing." Why? Because a Democrat gave the order.
| 247 |
Major Tom Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:10pm |
re: #241 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And then is tackled by Rick Perry! Now that's good tv!
| 248 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:13pm |
| 249 |
Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:28pm |
Audience reaction still fluctuating on a black screen. These people are really opinionated.
| 250 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:31pm |
The worst part of this is knowing that at least 27% of the country will buy what they're saying.
| 251 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:38pm |
re: #244 Slumbering Behemoth
He just said that we're worthless, ineffective, weak, and irresponsible. I bet Bin Laden wishes that were true.
Lol doubtful Bin Laden wishes anything, these days.
| 252 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:40pm |
re: #244 Slumbering Behemoth
He just said that we're worthless, ineffective, weak, and irresponsible. I bet Bin Laden wishes that were true.
I bet Bin Laden wishes that fish would stop eating off his face.
| 253 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:41pm |
re: #224 Charleston Chew
I vote bus ramming through wall, Koolaid Man style.
I want a Klingon K't'inga class cruiser coming the wall.
| 255 |
JAFO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:46pm |
Remember when they were complaining that Obama was not rushing into Libya by himself but waited to form a coalition?
| 256 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:54:57pm |
re: #244 Slumbering Behemoth
He just said that we're worthless, ineffective, weak, and irresponsible. I bet Bin Laden wishes that were true.
They're all mixed up. They were describing the previous administration :p
| 257 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:10pm |
re: #253 celticdragon
I want a Klingon K't'inga class cruiser coming the wall.
Tis a good day to die.
| 258 |
ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:18pm |
Can your threads really "fill up?" I had no idea!
| 259 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:19pm |
re: #233 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Once again, it's "Obama isn't being enough of a leader by being a 'strong, decisive leader,' like the swaggering Texan who just left office."
And here I thought that swaggering Texan was a squishy RINO and not a Real Murikan Conservative. At least that's what the Freepers tell me.
| 260 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:20pm |
Oh Lord, here it comes again.
| 261 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:22pm |
I can't wait for Frank Luntz to tell me who won this debate.
| 262 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:28pm |
re: #238 Charles
Oh, just stop pretending. The Libyan intervention came from Obama, so they're opposed to it. Otherwise they'd be screaming, "Bomb Libya!"
investing in world wide liberty used to be a GOP plank....note how swiftly their principle wanes for political profit
| 264 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:51pm |
re: #254 Gus 802
I've been through half a container of B&J Fudge, and half of Pistachio Pistachio.
Going back for thirds - Mint Chocolate Chunk.
| 265 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:52pm |
re: #245 b_sharp
Did she try to bite it?
It looked like something naughty, so she suggested it should banned at the federal level.
| 266 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:56pm |
re: #250 jaunte
The worst part of this is knowing that at least 27% of the country will buy what they're saying.
On the bright side not much more than 27%. Republicans are in for a historic ass whooping.
| 267 |
The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:55:56pm |
re: #229 Decatur Deb
The tides are a policy failure of Obama.
King Canute also failed to have a viable tides policy, for he too was a socialist Kenyan Muslim.
| 268 |
Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:56:07pm |
re: #242 Lidane
| 271 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:56:30pm |
re: #259 Lidane
And here I thought that swaggering Texan was a squishy RINO and not a Real Murikan Conservative. At least that's what the Freepers tell me.
Oh sure, on the domestic scene. On the foreign scene, Bush was the sort of presidency we should idolize, because he knew how to get "respect"...but which I mean he knew how to get our strongest allies to look as us like the slow kid who just crammed a crayon up his nose.
| 272 |
FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:56:45pm |
What happened to the "The Rent is too Damn High" guy? At least he is sincere in his beliefs.
| 275 |
Gus Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:05pm |
re: #269 sagehen
OMG a good question!!
If you were a bird, what kind of bird would you be?
//Oops. This isn't The Actor's Studio.
//
| 276 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:11pm |
If Iraq is a shining example of success, I'd hate to see what failure looks like.
| 278 |
BongCrodny Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:43pm |
re: #257 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Tis a good day to die.
Republican debates are as dish best served cold.
| 279 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:46pm |
re: #273 celticdragon
Iraq is a shining example of success!!!
Yeah, we successfully franchised US-style democracy to a foreign nation, warts and all!
/
| 280 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:49pm |
Bring the troops home, but don't throw friends under the bus....
| 281 |
Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:51pm |
Awww Tim!! Just tell them the truth: Democrats won, Republicans lost. So Obama made the better choice because Palin was at least partially responsible for McCain's collapse in the polls. After all, winning at all costs is what matters to the GOP, right?
| 282 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:54pm |
Wow. My body is spontaneously growing hair on my ears as a self defense mechanism against this stupidity.
| 283 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:57:57pm |
Romney needs to suck a big salty bag of dicks for that fucked up statement he just made.
I understand if Charles thinks this is over the top, but that it what I think.
| 284 |
FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:08pm |
Ohhhhhh, slamm! Obama did you hear that? Any repub would be better than you, so says Romney.
| 285 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:09pm |
You just had your American Idol contest, dumbass.
| 286 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:17pm |
"Under the bus" needs to be thrown out of the English lexicon.
| 287 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:18pm |
Romney is trying so hard to be one of "them" that he can't speak what he truly believes anymore.
| 288 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:25pm |
re: #276 JasonA
If Iraq is a shining example of success, I'd hate to see what failure looks like.
The War of Northern Aggression The Civil War
| 289 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:30pm |
Why does Ron sound like he smoked a carton of Marlboros?
| 290 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:48pm |
re: #287 freetoken
Romney is trying so hard to be one of "them" that he can't speak what he truly believes anymore.
He can't win the nomination if he is honest.
| 291 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:58:55pm |
Either that of he really is having hemorrhoid problems.
| 294 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:59:13pm |
She learned about the goodness of the American people in just the last two hours? Really?!?
| 295 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:59:23pm |
Michelle learned so much tonite about the goodness of...whatever.
| 300 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:59:41pm |
Michele finally looks halfway normal for once.
| 301 |
3CPO Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:59:44pm |
Wow, Michelle just discovered she likes Americans.
| 302 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:59:46pm |
re: #289 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Why does Ron sound like he smoked a carton of Marlboros?
Why do you hate freedom?
| 303 |
Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:59:46pm |
Suck up to New Hampshire time! "You're way better than Old Hampshire!"
| 304 |
FreedomMoon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 6:59:58pm |
Libertarian wet dream ticket: Ron and Rand Paul. Father and son destroying fiat money and letting the dictionary define marriage.
| 305 |
Four More Tears Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:00:00pm |
omg, they all have to wash the Santorum off of their faces.
| 306 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:00:04pm |
re: #289 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Why does Ron sound like he smoked a carton of Marlboros?
I think Michelle's got permanent tissue up her nose.
| 307 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:00:17pm |
Shit. Even Ron Paul can see that this line of "quizzing" isn't good enough to inform someone well enough to pick someone to go into the next administration.
WTF?
| 308 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:00:20pm |
I wanna thank all the candidates...for giving me the most laughs I've had in a good while.
| 309 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:00:31pm |
"people of New Hampshire love the future"
/Winnar!
| 310 |
Eclectic Infidel Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:00:44pm |
re: #295 celticdragon
Michelle learned so much tonite about the goodness of...whatever.
Bachmann is truly a brown noser.
| 311 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:01:02pm |
re: #307 Slumbering Behemoth
Sadly, Paul is the most transparent person up there. And that isn't saying much.
| 312 |
The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:01:05pm |
re: #286 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
"Under the bus" needs to be thrown out of the English lexicon.
...I tried to popularize "stabbed in front of a bust of Pompey" as an alternative, but it's not sticking.
| 313 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:01:13pm |
Well, that should get a lot of souls out of Purgatory.
| 314 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:01:14pm |
re: #292 albusteve
let AmIdol decide!...omen
They've been reading some of you're comments here. But it would seem they read 'em wrong.
| 315 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:01:23pm |
| 316 |
Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:01:32pm |
Now I have to do another post-debate IQ test to see how many points I just dropped listening to it... :-(
| 318 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:02:03pm |
re: #312 The Ghost of a Flea
How 'bout "Tossed from the Tarpeian Rock?"
| 319 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:02:12pm |
re: #312 The Ghost of a Flea
...I tried to popularize "stabbed in front of a bust of Pompey" as an alternative, but it's not sticking.
What part of the Bible did that happen in?
/
| 320 |
Major Tom Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:02:29pm |
re: #317 freetoken
Except a stomach ache from eating chocolate.... Ugh....
| 321 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:02:37pm |
re: #311 freetoken
Sadly, Paul is the most transparent person up there. And that isn't saying much.
I have to applaud Ron Paul for playing himself straight, namely as this election's Ross Perot.
| 322 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:03:04pm |
I have this afternoon's Intrade in a window. I'll see if 'refresh' looks much different in a minute.
| 324 |
The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:03:08pm |
Closing impression: the GOP is officially postmodernist.
| 325 |
Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:03:14pm |
re: #304 tacuba14
Actually, I think Sarah Palin + Michele Bachmann would make a dream ticket for the Daily Show. (And of course, guaranteed victory for Obama, with a chance to become the first to go 538-0).
| 326 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:03:17pm |
| 327 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:03:18pm |
The GOP would never toss anyone under a bus.
Because public transportation is socialism.
| 328 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:03:36pm |
re: #310 eclectic infidel
Bachmann is truly a brown noser.
I'd quit because I'd had a belly full of killing. But then I'd rather be a killer than a victim. And that's exactly what Bryant's threat about little people meant. So I hooked in once more, thinking that if I couldn't take it, I'd split later. I didn't have to worry about Bachmann. She was brown-nosing for a promotion, so she didn't want me back anyway.
| 330 |
diamonda2u Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:04:00pm |
You have to like Ron Paul, at least you know what your getting... the other "clones" don't even know what mold to act out this week...
| 331 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:04:22pm |
re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth
"Shoved under the President's desk"?
"Left chained on the waterfront in Jaffa"
| 333 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:04:45pm |
re: #330 diamonda2u
You have to like Ron Paul, at least you know what your getting... the other "clones" don't even know what mold to act out this week...
Agreed, Luap Nor is not deviating from his course, he plans to keep going straight ahead...much like the Titanic into that iceberg.
| 335 |
Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:05:13pm |
re: #324 The Ghost of a Flea
Closing impression: the GOP is officially postmodernist.
In that it's a pastiche of a simulacrum of, of... oh, I've run out of buzzwords I learned back in college.
| 336 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:05:14pm |
David Gergen giving us the predictable village line.
| 337 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:05:26pm |
What have I learnt the past two hours?
That social media makes for shallow, meaningless "debates".
That CNN hosts are afraid of making someone face the truth.
That Mitt Romney probably has colo-rectal problems, or a plastic surgeon has worked on his face so much that he only has one expression - a slightly wincing stare.
| 338 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:05:27pm |
re: #330 diamonda2u
You have to like Ron Paul, at least you know what your getting... the other "clones" don't even know what mold to act out this week...
He gets two points for consistency. Too bad that still leaves him deep in the negative for all the points deducted for "clueless" and "crazy".
| 339 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:05:43pm |
re: #329 Major Tom
Impaled on the sword of damacles
That's only Paul Ryan's souvenir letter opener from his 9th grade field trip to the Alamo.
| 340 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:05:48pm |
re: #333 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Agreed, Luap Nor is not deviating from his course, he plans to keep going straight ahead...much like the Titanic into that iceberg.
Yea.... but he did a few dances there too. On immigration, surely.
| 341 |
Kronocide Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:05:51pm |
I'd like a taquiyya Pizza with the Denial Cheese Sauce.
| 342 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:06:00pm |
re: #336 celticdragon
David Gergen giving us the predictable village line.
It takes a village...to nominate an idiot?
| 343 |
Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:06:05pm |
re: #327 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The GOP would never toss anyone under a bus.
Because public transportation is socialism.
They'd shove the bus under the bus.
| 344 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:06:25pm |
re: #333 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Agreed, Luap Nor is not deviating from his course, he plans to keep going straight ahead...much like the Titanic into that iceberg.
predictions are futile...Hope n Change?
BO has huge problems he made for himself
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:06:30pm |
re: #330 diamonda2u
You have to like Ron Paul, at least you know what your getting... the other "clones" don't even know what mold to act out this week...
Yes, you know what you're getting with Ron Paul, but no, you don't have to like it.
He's a racist, misogynistic bigot who advocates insane monetary policies that were discredited in the last century.
There's nothing to like about Ron Paul.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:06:34pm |
re: #337 freetoken
What have I learnt the past two hours?
That social media makes for shallow, meaningless "debates".
That CNN hosts are afraid of making someone face the truth.
That Mitt Romney probably has colo-rectal problems, or a plastic surgeon has worked on his face so much that he only has one expression - a slightly wincing stare.
I learned that I still think Summer Glau is really really hot and my new soup recipe has turned out pretty good.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:06:58pm |
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The Ghost of a Flea Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:07:08pm |
re: #333 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Agreed, Luap Nor is not deviating from his course, he plans to keep going straight ahead...much like the Titanic into that iceberg.
Ah. The Field Marshal Haig Stratagem. Worked ever so well in France.
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BongCrodny Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:07:16pm |
Just remember, no matter how crazy or weird the Republican candidates might seem, >27% of the people watching the debate are going "Hey, this guy makes a lot of sense!"
| 350 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:07:16pm |
The Brainslug Party
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:07:16pm |
So.... who ya think Geller is voting for? lol
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:07:46pm |
re: #346 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I learned that I still think Summer Glau is really really hot and my new soup recipe has turned out pretty good.
I'm not certain about you're soup recipe.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:07:57pm |
re: #330 diamonda2u
And now I'm curious - have you been previously registered at LGF with a different name?
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:03pm |
re: #346 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I learned that I still think Summer Glau is really really hot and my new soup recipe has turned out pretty good.
Summer Glau is drop dead gorgeous. A real shame that her injury ended her classical ballet career.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:05pm |
re: #345 Charles
Yes, you know what you're getting with Ron Paul, but no, you don't have to like it.
He's a racist, misogynistic bigot who advocates insane monetary policies that were discredited in the last century.
There's nothing to like about Ron Paul.
I know what I'm getting in colonoscopy, but I ain't taking the proctologist to dinner afterwards.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:13pm |
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
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Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:22pm |
re: #347 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bus-ception?
If the second bus was itself shoved under a bus ...
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:42pm |
re: #353 Charles
And now I'm curious - have you been previously registered at LGF with a different name?
Uh oh.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:53pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
Eh, their all a bunch of turd sandwiches.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:53pm |
re: #350 Killgore Trout
I miss that show.
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Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:08:55pm |
re: #330 diamonda2u
You have to like Ron Paul, at least you know what your getting... the other "clones" don't even know what mold to act out this week...
The same can be said about, say, lung cancer. You know exactly what you are getting, and well...
| 362 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:09:26pm |
re: #330 diamonda2u
Because you seem an awful lot like another Paulian who was banned over and over.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:09:33pm |
re: #345 Charles
Yes, you know what you're getting with Ron Paul, but no, you don't have to like it.
He's a racist, misogynistic bigot who advocates insane monetary policies that were discredited in the last century.
There's nothing to like about Ron Paul.
he said a few things, out of context, that made some sense...but his overall package is a loser...we should be more concerned with our own border than the Afghan/Pakistan border...I got a kick out of that...but it's all meaningless
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Charleston Chew Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:09:34pm |
re: #349 BongCrodny
Just remember, no matter how crazy or weird the Republican candidates might seem, >27% of the people watching the debate are going "Hey, this guy makes a lot of sense!"
It's more like, "Hey, this guy is saying a lot of the same things the voices in my head are saying."
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BongCrodny Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:09:35pm |
re: #346 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I learned that I still think Summer Glau is really really hot and my new soup recipe has turned out pretty good.
I love Summer Glau, but going from Firefly to Sarah Connor to The Cape is not upward progression.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:09:37pm |
re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth
I'm not certain about you're soup recipe.
7 bean soup with smoked sausage, red onions, red pepper and cilantro.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:09:44pm |
re: #357 Charleston Chew
If the second bus was itself shoved under a bus ...
And had a really cool firefight by a snow mountain fortress while everthing spun around like in a clothes dryer...
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:10:16pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
It didn't look like they were even trying. This wasn't a debate, it was a beauty pageant.
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BongCrodny Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:10:50pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
You're confusing "no one landed any blows" with "swing and a miss."
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:10:51pm |
I share Charles' opionions about Ron Paul. re: #330 diamonda2u
You have to like Ron Paul, at least you know what your [sic] getting... the other "clones" don't even know what mold to act out this week...
Actually, you don't know what you're getting. Ron Paul is only a "libertarian" when it's convenient. When it's not, he'll be the first to use public funds to pay for his pet cause, or find an excuse to discriminate against same sex relationships.
I like Jerry Brown (and voted for him) even though he's to the left of where I am on many things. He's an example of "you know what you're getting." He's principled and consistent. Ron Paul is not.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:10:57pm |
re: #367 celticdragon
And had a really cool firefight by a snow mountain fortress while everthing spun around like in a clothes dryer...
Been watching Inception again?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:11:05pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
Pssstt...It was rigged.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:11:05pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
What's the mood at Frumforum?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:11:10pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
It's hard to land a major blow when you're swinging at smoke. I found this debate useless. Less substance than half a Twinkie.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:11:15pm |
re: #363 albusteve
he said a few things, out of context, that made some sense...but his overall package is a loser...we should be more concerned with our own border than the Afghan/Pakistan border...I got a kick out of that...but it's all meaningless
He and his son are isolationists, both in and out of the country. The question for Paul is what do you think the government SHOULD do?
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:11:21pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
Romney did well.
Interesting notion, if by well you mean he shamelessly lied his ass off and disavowed his entire public career.
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dell*nix Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:11:22pm |
re: #368 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
With a lot lot of tap dancing for the talent part.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:12:14pm |
re: #374 Slumbering Behemoth
It's hard to land a major blow when you're swinging at smoke. I found this debate useless. Less substance than half a Twinkie.
I'd rather have half the Twinkie. At least the sugar will help me ignore the pain of what I just sat through.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:12:17pm |
re: #370 reuven
I share Charles' opionions about Ron Paul.
Actually, you don't know what you're getting. Ron Paul is only a "libertarian" when it's convenient. When it's not, he'll be the first to use public funds to pay for his pet cause, or find an excuse to discriminate against same sex relationships.
I like Jerry Brown (and voted for him) even though he's to the left of where I am on many things. He's an example of "you know what you're getting." He's principled and consistent. Ron Paul is not.
He balanced California's budget before. How's he doing now?
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:12:20pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:12:29pm |
re: #366 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
7 bean soup with smoked sausage, red onions, red pepper and cilantro.
Sounds good. Not as good as Glau, but good.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:12:43pm |
re: #375 marjoriemoon
He and his son are isolationists, both in and out of the country. The question for Paul is what do you think the government SHOULD do?
whatever, I agreed with him on that point...did you?
| 383 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:13:15pm |
re: #373 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
What's the mood at Frumforum?
Probaby depressed, since they are the last bastion of sane conservatism.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:13:38pm |
re: #380 celticdragon
How could you tell?
;)
As long as you don't start saying "You're waiting for a train," we're good.
:D
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diamonda2u Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:13:39pm |
re: #345 Charles
Yes I know he is all of those, and saying "you have to like him", I was referring to the fact that at least he is consistent in his beliefs...
not doing back flips like the others...
who are now flirting with racism and the other bad traits, or condoning them because its politically expedient to be so to get past the tea party). That's all I meant.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:14:00pm |
re: #374 Slumbering Behemoth
I wish CNN had sat them around a large table, and before hand (just minutes before, in the green room so no collaboration, and) requested of each candidate to write down two questions for each of the other candidates.
Then start and have the moderator just read the questions and not try to be cute.
Let the candidates themselves interact.
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ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:14:19pm |
re: #379 marjoriemoon
I think he might pull it off. He cut a lot of budget items, and reduced by half the amount that he wants to make up with tax increases. Admittedly some of that reduction was just unexpected tax revenue.
If he increases taxes across the board, and not just on the "rich," I'd be satisfied. We're all in this together; we all should pay.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:14:34pm |
re: #368 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It didn't look like they were even trying. This wasn't a debate, it was a beauty pageant.
They don't call these early debates "cattle shows" for nothing. Moo!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:14:55pm |
re: #383 celticdragon
Probaby depressed, since they are the last bastion of sane conservatism.
Denial because they know they can't stop the craziness.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:15:02pm |
re: #384 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
As long as you don't start saying "You're waiting for a train," we're good.
:D
I heard it will take you far away.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:15:37pm |
re: #373 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
What's the mood at Frumforum?
Reasonably good. Though it wasn't very nice to Paul or Bachmann.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:16:09pm |
What we saw tonight wasn't "democracy".
Instead, what we got is what the 20th century business of advertising was all about - telling people that they could have and deserve to have whatever their egos tell them that they deserve.
Democracy is a popularity contest, and tonight wasn't much different than DWTS or American Idol.
But governance is serious business and only the serious should be allowed to play on the court.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:16:27pm |
re: #383 celticdragon
Probaby depressed, since they are the last bastion of sane conservatism.
That was my guess. The nutbags HATE them. Well, they hate everybody.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:16:33pm |
re: #382 albusteve
whatever, I agreed with him on that point...did you?
Do I think we shouldn't be concerned with the Afghan/Pakistan border? That would be no. I don't think we should leave Afghanistan or Iraq or Pakistan. We're capturing or killing a lot of these top guys.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:16:44pm |
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:17:00pm |
re: #383 celticdragon
Probaby depressed, since they are the last bastion of sane conservatism.
Bah LGF will hold out longer....
Or are we less a bastion of Sane conservatism and a wildlife refuge that allows liberals like me to interact with this rare beast in its natural environment?
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:17:51pm |
re: #390 celticdragon
I heard it will take you far away.
By the by...the entire cast rocked, but Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Marion Cotillard were truly outstanding, I think.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:17:53pm |
re: #389 Killgore Trout
Denial because they know they can't stop the craziness.
craziness?...
here you go
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:18:11pm |
re: #396 jamesfirecat
Or are we less a bastion of Sane conservatism and a wildlife refuge that allows liberals like me to interact with this rare beast in its natural environment?
No, we're all proud members of the "radical religious left!!11!1!"
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:18:20pm |
re: #387 reuven
I think he might pull it off. He cut a lot of budget items, and reduced by half the amount that he wants to make up with tax increases. Admittedly some of that reduction was just unexpected tax revenue.
If he increases taxes across the board, and not just on the "rich," I'd be satisfied. We're all in this together; we all should pay.
I don't agree with the last statement, but ok!
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jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:18:33pm |
re: #383 celticdragon
Probaby depressed, since they are the last bastion of sane conservatism.
One late comment:
CentristNYer // Jun 13, 2011 at 10:09 pm
If I were still an active Republican, I’d be looking forward to 2016. This is unquestionably the sorriest group of candidates ever fielded by a national party. Absolutely pathetic.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:18:53pm |
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:19:08pm |
Now that I can compare dinner and the debate.... Hmmm. I screwed up my steak so both the meat of the argument (such as it was) and the meat in my dinner were too dry. My pasta appeared about as convoluted as the flip flops and defenses. My beer glass is about as empty as the arguments but at least I can re fill my beer. My salad was cheesy but Roquefort beats Newt.
So a screwed up dinner beat the debate.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:19:27pm |
re: #173 tacuba14
Am I the only one who cringes at all the obligatory "gratitude" they give to anyone with a military background? My thing is there is a time and place, and here it gets reduced to ad nauseam.
PANDERPANDER
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Jerk Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:19:33pm |
I haven't left the Republican party like a lot of you... but I do not feel comfortable voting for anyone debating tonight. Times are becoming tougher for moderates like myself.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:20:42pm |
re: #395 WindUpBird
I missed the pig show, I was asleep
As you can see, I'm real broken up about it
I wouldn't say you missed anything...
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:20:43pm |
re: #401 jaunte
One late comment:
Rubio will be the guy to watch in 2016. I mean... if he doesn't get caught tweeting his weenie or anything.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:20:45pm |
re: #405 Jerk
I haven't left the Republican party like a lot of you... but I do not feel comfortable voting for anyone debating tonight. Times are becoming tougher for moderates like myself.
party membership is nuts...your nuts
what's the point in that?
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:21:48pm |
re: #405 Jerk
I haven't left the Republican party like a lot of you... but I do not feel comfortable voting for anyone debating tonight. Times are becoming tougher for moderates like myself.
Well come on over then! We're an awfully nice group. And we have cake!
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:21:57pm |
re: #322 Decatur Deb
I have this afternoon's Intrade in a window. I'll see if 'refresh' looks much different in a minute.
The change puts Romney up slightly, Huntsman and Pawlenty down slightly, and Perry's likelihood of entering downby a third.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:22:23pm |
Holy shit!
Here is a story that deserves more press. This is certainly more important that a faux GOP debate:Ridge Alleges Bush Political Pressure for Terrorism Alert
Tom Ridge appears to be alleging in a new book that the Bush administration put political pressure on him to raise the terrorism threat level in fall of 2004 so as to help George W. Bush’s chances of reelection.
It seemed pretty obvious to me as a close observer that games were being played with such terrorism announcements during the presidential campaign. Pakistani sources spoke of being encouraged to release terrorism-related stories during the Democratic Party convention in summer, 2004, so as to upstage John Kerry. They did so, leading to a fiasco when a Pakistani double agent, Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, was outed, derailing an ongoing sting against militants in the UK.
Ridge may have felt bad about that SNAFU, and so resisted similar pressures in October. The book is not out yet, so precise details are not yet available.
Frances Townsend, Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration figures are denying the charge. But, of course, they are seasoned liars and so their denials don’t count for much.
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jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:22:32pm |
re: #405 Jerk
I haven't left the Republican party like a lot of you... but I do not feel comfortable voting for anyone debating tonight. Times are becoming tougher for moderates like myself.
My suggestion?
You're gonna need to get into one of these and then apply this liberally...
| 415 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:23:04pm |
Heh. I still had the CNN feed on in the background, and just switched windows to look at it. It just got 100% more interesting, substantive, and informative.
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:23:07pm |
re: #396 jamesfirecat
Bah LGF will hold out longer...
Or are we less a bastion of Sane conservatism and a wildlife refuge that allows liberals like me to interact with this rare beast in its natural environment?
LOL. Do Not Feed The Animals!
| 417 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:23:13pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:23:13pm |
I see that the Twitter Haters are once more promoting the idea that one of their own "made Charles look stupid" this pne being Dana Loesch. Naturally, the idea that she won can only be obtained by ignoring everything Charles actually said and substituting a strawman for him. Liars and lamers, all of them.
| 419 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:23:15pm |
re: #412 Decatur Deb
The change puts Romney up slightly, Huntsman and Pawlenty down slightly, and Perry's likelihood of entering downby a third.
I'd waiting for some fervor over Cain's bigoted comments.
| 420 |
Jerk Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:23:35pm |
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:24:05pm |
re: #419 marjoriemoon
I'd waiting for some fervor over Cain's bigoted comments.
How can he be bigoted? He's black.
/
| 422 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:24:32pm |
B&J ice cream is too sweet for me, at least most flavors. Pistachio Pistachio though is one of the better, lower sugar content flavors, and the protein content is better than the rest too, because there are many pistachios in the mix.
There's an analogy in there to the GOP and the current candidates... somewhere.
| 423 |
ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:24:45pm |
re: #400 marjoriemoon
I don't either! If it were up to me, only the poor would pay. But I'm practical.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:24:45pm |
re: #419 marjoriemoon
I'd waiting for some fervor over Cain's bigoted comments.
Cain deserves what the TPGOP is preparing for him. Perhaps he can be RNC chairman.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:25:06pm |
re: #408 marjoriemoon
Rubio will be the guy to watch in 2016. I mean... if he doesn't get caught tweeting his weenie or anything.
I think Palin might be, too. By then she'll have the chops.
| 426 |
jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:25:20pm |
re: #408 marjoriemoon
Rubio will be the guy to watch in 2016. I mean... if he doesn't get caught tweeting his weenie or anything.
Rubio has already compared the teaching of evolution to how communists tried to break down family bonds...
[Link: www.flascience.org...]
Rubio may be the guy to watch in 2016 but he won't pull the GOP out of its death spiral.
| 427 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:25:22pm |
tinadupuy tweets
Gingrich has created jobs at Tiffany's.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:25:33pm |
re: #419 marjoriemoon
I'd waiting for some fervor over Cain's bigoted comments.
I'm waiting to see whether Newt gets a shellacking or not for basically taking Cain's BS and cranking it up to 11.
| 429 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:25:35pm |
re: #423 reuven
I don't either! If it were up to me, only the poor would pay. But I'm practical.
Don't make me come over there!
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bratwurst Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:25:58pm |
Have to admit...Cain really made some waves when he re-asserted that he would NOT appoint any militant Muslim trying to kill us to his administration!
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:26:07pm |
re: #413 celticdragon
Holy shit!
That's a very one-sided post. I'd like to know who wrote it. Sounds more like a HuffPo post (I don't doubt you found it on Frum Forum, I'm just saying).
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Jerk Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:26:16pm |
re: #427 jaunte
tinadupuy tweets "Gingrich has created jobs at Tiffany's."
Yes but he lost jobs in his campaign.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:26:29pm |
re: #425 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I think Palin might be, too. By then she'll have the chops.
Palin may tweet her weenie??
hehe naw, I think she's out for good.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:26:39pm |
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jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:27:06pm |
CommonDescent tweets
Newt supports NASA's space exploration programs. Who knows how many potential wives may be out there?
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:27:17pm |
re: #426 jamesfirecat
Rubio has already compared the teaching of evolution to how communists tried to break down family bonds...
[Link: www.flascience.org...]
Rubio may be the guy to watch in 2016 but he won't pull the GOP out of its death spiral.
This is true.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:27:28pm |
re: #433 marjoriemoon
Palin may tweet her weenie??
hehe naw, I think she's out for good.
After tonight, SP might feel called to ride to the rescue.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:27:46pm |
re: #431 Dark_Falcon
That's a very one-sided post. I'd like to know who wrote it. Sounds more like a HuffPo post (I don't doubt you found it on Frum Forum, I'm just saying).
It was alleged (and hotly denied) back in 2004-2005.
Confirmation from Ridge would be a bombshell and possible grounds for criminal charges.
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Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:28:07pm |
Could the last hour have been any more mind-wrenching? Watching the candidates, question after question, try to bend themselves into Gordian Knots explaining why everything that the GOP pushed for and supported in the last presidency suddenly are bad ideas when a Democrat is doing them?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:28:16pm |
re: #433 marjoriemoon
Palin may tweet her weenie??
hehe naw, I think she's out for good.
Well as you know, she has bigger balls than any liberal male out there.
/derp
| 442 |
Charles Johnson Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:28:34pm |
And now the Ron Paul robots are frantically spamming every silly Internet web poll, so they can pretend he "won."
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:28:49pm |
re: #434 Slumbering Behemoth
I bet if there were a Tiffany's on the moon, Newt would...
Aw, forget it.
Tiffany's
Where you shop when you cheat™.
| 444 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:29:36pm |
re: #442 Charles
And now the Ron Paul robots are frantically spamming every silly Internet web poll, so they can pretend he "won."
I'd ask on what grounds they base that. On consistency? Sure, I'd be willing to give him that. But by any other measure? He made even Bachmann look somewhat sane.
| 445 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:29:40pm |
re: #443 Rightwingconspirator
Tiffany's
Where you shop when you cheat™.
Diamonds are a mistresses best friend.
| 446 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:29:56pm |
re: #442 Charles
And now the Ron Paul robots are frantically spamming every silly Internet web poll, so they can pretend he "won."
Poll Time!
| 447 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:30:02pm |
re: #437 Decatur Deb
After tonight, SP might feel called to ride to the rescue.
She's got to tell her dumb followers, something. Else, watch them turn their legendary pitchforks on her.
| 448 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:30:24pm |
re: #440 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Could the last hour have been any more mind-wrenching? Watching the candidates, question after question, try to bend themselves into Gordian Knots explaining why everything that the GOP pushed for and supported in the last presidency suddenly are bad ideas when a Democrat is doing them?
yes, listening to BO spew shit on the campaign trail...worse than waterboarding
| 450 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:30:44pm |
re: #442 Charles
And now the Ron Paul robots are frantically spamming every silly Internet web poll, so they can pretend he "won."
Lets check what wikipedia says about it...oh.
| 451 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:31:07pm |
re: #441 Slumbering Behemoth
Well as you know, she has bigger balls than any liberal male out there.
/derp
Huh. And all this time, I thought that was Jan "We have did" Brewer.
| 452 |
Decatur Deb Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:31:25pm |
"I am done with these elephants." --'Nite, all.
| 453 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:31:35pm |
| 454 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:31:52pm |
Via a Ben Smith tweet:
A bankruptcy court (!) in California just ruled DoMA unconstitutional [Link: is.gd...]
Today, the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Central District of California, in Los Angeles, released an opinion finding Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional in a bankruptcy filing brought by a same-sex married couple, Gene Douglas Balas and Carlos A. Morales.
| 455 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:32:13pm |
re: #446 Killgore Trout
Ron Poll!
| 456 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:32:39pm |
re: #448 albusteve
yes, listening to BO spew shit on the campaign trail...worse than waterboarding
Our evening troll has arrived. Yay!
| 457 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:33:22pm |
| 458 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:33:37pm |
re: #346 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I learned that I still think Summer Glau is really really hot and my new soup recipe has turned out pretty good.
Is Summer one of the ingreedamints?
| 459 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:33:46pm |
| 460 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:34:08pm |
re: #454 jaunte
Via a Ben Smith tweet:
Wow. This is going to be interesting.
Maggie Gallagher at NOM is going to have kittens over this one.
| 461 |
jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:34:13pm |
| 462 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:35:15pm |
re: #456 celticdragon
Our evening troll has arrived. Yay!
yeah, trying to maintain some objectivity is now trolling, thanks to people like you...Yay!
| 463 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:35:33pm |
re: #459 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
D. Jon Stewart
Stewart wins any debate. Any presidential debate produces enough DERPing to satisfy the comedians for two days.
| 464 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:35:55pm |
re: #356 Dark_Falcon
Hi, all. I was on Twitter and Frumforum during the debate. Sorry I wasn't around. Tough to watch at times but Romney did well and no one landed any major blows that I saw.
A room full of Keystone Kops.
| 465 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:36:37pm |
re: #462 albusteve
yeah, trying to maintain some objectivity is now trolling, thanks to people like you...Yay!
Comparing a speech from any President to a serious warcrime and act of torture is always objective.
Gotcha.
| 466 |
Vicious Babushka Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:37:09pm |
I did not watch this cluster fuck. I watched "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo." Excellent movie and a much more enjoyable use of my time.
| 467 |
jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:37:17pm |
re: #464 b_sharp
A room full of Keystone Kops.
Maybe we should try putting them to Yakety Sax and see if it makes it more palatable?
| 468 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:37:33pm |
re: #365 BongCrodny
I love Summer Glau, but going from Firefly to Sarah Connor to The Cape is not upward progression.
Well Firefly to Sarah Connor was more of a lateral move. The Cape was a dive into an empty pool.
| 469 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:37:49pm |
Besides the prospective GOP voters in NH, and the CNN viewers, I'd say Cain was the big loser of the night. He just came off as less relevant than say Gingrich (who always knows how to butt into the middle of something), or Romney (with his winced stare), or even Paul (with his theatrics.)
Experience in public policy forums matters, and Cain is the amateur on that base.
| 470 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:38:32pm |
| 471 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:38:34pm |
re: #462 albusteve
yeah, trying to maintain some objectivity is now trolling, thanks to people like you...Yay!
You know you're not allowed to have you're own opinion. Now shut up and swim with the shoal.
/
| 472 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:38:45pm |
re: #465 celticdragon
Comparing a speech from any President to a serious warcrime and act of torture is always objective.
Gotcha.
who did that?...post it
stop making shit up
| 473 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:39:15pm |
re: #466 Alouette
I did not watch this cluster fuck. I watched "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo." Excellent movie and a much more enjoyable use of my time.
I had a blast! It's like a political MST3000 thingy with these guys.
| 474 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:39:57pm |
re: #374 Slumbering Behemoth
It's hard to land a major blow when you're swinging at smoke. I found this debate useless. Less substance than half a Twinkie.
You should not be dissing survival food.
After the Apocalypse, you'll be happy to munch Twinkies.
| 475 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:40:28pm |
The final conclusion:
If you tuned into this debate in order to look for some way to differentiate between the candidates, then you're SOL.
If you tuned in to get the candidates views on the major issues this country faces, then you're better off turning to the Daily Show.
If you turned in to see the candidates asked hard, nerve-racking questions, then you must be new to politics.
If you turned in to find out which candidate is the most electable, then you must have hit the wrong channel for American Idol.
But if you tuned in to watch the current GOP field serve up several flavors of Obama hatred, then you've hit the motherload.
| 476 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:40:41pm |
re: #469 freetoken
Besides the prospective GOP voters in NH, and the CNN viewers, I'd say Cain was the big loser of the night. He just came off as less relevant than say Gingrich (who always knows how to butt into the middle of something), or Romney (with his winced stare), or even Paul (with his theatrics.)
Experience in public policy forums matters, and Cain is the amateur on that base.
I'm not so sure. I was struck by the guy who asked about which candidate he should support as a moderate. They all pretty much told him to become a tea party radical or fuck off. I think many moderates are going to stay home for the primaries because there's nobody to vote for.
| 477 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:41:08pm |
re: #474 b_sharp
You should not be dissing survival food.
After the Apocalypse, you'll be happy to munch Twinkies.
Deep-fried Twinkies?
| 478 |
Political Atheist Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:41:26pm |
Did they see the same debate? This arrived in my email just a bit ago. The one email on the debate and this is what they went with.
POLITICO Breaking News
-------------------------------------------------
"It's time for us to bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can," Mitt Romney said during Monday's presidential debate. "Only the Afghanis can win Afghanistan's independence from the Taliban," he said.
| 479 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:41:40pm |
re: #469 freetoken
Besides the prospective GOP voters in NH, and the CNN viewers, I'd say Cain was the big loser of the night. He just came off as less relevant than say Gingrich (who always knows how to butt into the middle of something), or Romney (with his winced stare), or even Paul (with his theatrics.)
Experience in public policy forums matters, and Cain is the amateur on that base.
Much agreed, but he did get a some applause that the others didn't get.
So the next question is, who WERE those people?
| 480 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:41:44pm |
re: #475 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
But if you tuned in to watch the current GOP field serve up several flavors of Obama hatred, then you've hit the motherload.
That's all they did, was whine about the Obama administration.
This is all conservatives have, evidently.
| 481 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:41:47pm |
re: #474 b_sharp
You should not be dissing survival food.
After the Apocalypse, you'll be happy to munch Twinkies.
Nope. I have blood sugar issues. I'll let you fatten up on the Twinkies, then...
Say, have you ever seen that movie "Alive"?
| 482 |
jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:42:05pm |
re: #476 Killgore Trout
I'm not so sure. I was struck by the guy who asked about which candidate he should support as a moderate. They all pretty much told him to become a tea party radical or fuck off. I think many moderates are going to stay home for the primaries because there's nobody to vote for.
I hope they stay home for the general election also, and if anybody butt Mittens wins I do believe there half to be halfway decent odds that they will....
| 483 |
ReamWorks SKG Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:42:10pm |
| 484 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:42:17pm |
re: #475 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The final conclusion:
If you tuned into this debate in order to look for some way to differentiate between the candidates, then you're SOL.
If you tuned in to get the candidates views on the major issues this country faces, then you're better off turning to the Daily Show.
If you turned in to see the candidates asked hard, nerve-racking questions, then you must be new to politics.
If you turned in to find out which candidate is the most electable, then you must have hit the wrong channel for American Idol.
But if you tuned in to watch the current GOP field serve up several flavors of Obama hatred, then you've hit the motherload.
question..
have you ever watched debates before?....this is a rerun from a long line of reruns
| 485 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:42:24pm |
re: #480 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
That's all they did, was whine about the Obama administration.
This is all conservatives have, evidently.
they sure do hate that guy!
| 486 |
Lidane Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:42:34pm |
re: #474 b_sharp
You should not be dissing survival food.
After the Apocalypse, you'll be happy to munch Twinkies.
Anyone who's watched Zombieland knows this. :D
| 487 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:42:45pm |
re: #480 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
That's all they did, was whine about the Obama administration.
This is all conservatives have, evidently.
Ayep, much like '04 was the year of "Not Bush," '12 shall be the year of "Not Obama." You won't be able to nail any candidate down to any one position, except that they all think that the answer is not whatever Obama is doing.
| 488 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:43:16pm |
re: #480 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
That's all they did, was whine about the Obama administration.
This is all conservatives have, evidently.
I've got beer. And video games.
| 489 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:43:30pm |
re: #486 Lidane
Anyone who's watched Zombieland knows this. :D
And the importance of the double-tap.
| 490 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:43:42pm |
BTW, what we're seeing down in the last AGW thread, by the late troll(s), is very much the same with the Adam & Eve & Genetics story.
The objectors are refusing to even deal with the subject matter. They refuse to even look at the claim in detail. The rejections are automatic, programmed, and intense.
You know you're getting close to a nerve when the reflex happens.
| 491 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:43:52pm |
re: #476 Killgore Trout
I'm not so sure. I was struck by the guy who asked about which candidate he should support as a moderate. They all pretty much told him to become a tea party radical or fuck off. I think many moderates are going to stay home for the primaries because there's nobody to vote for.
voter turnout during this entire cycle will be telling...whoever stays home will lose as usual
| 492 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:44:14pm |
| 493 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:44:24pm |
| 494 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:02pm |
| 496 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:17pm |
re: #478 Rightwingconspirator
Did they see the same debate? This arrived in my email just a bit ago. The one email on the debate and this is what they went with.
POLITICO Breaking News
---"It's time for us to bring our troops home as soon as we possibly can," Mitt Romney said during Monday's presidential debate. "Only the Afghanis can win Afghanistan's independence from the Taliban," he said.
Didn't he call the afghan army the "Taliban military?" I had flashes of Paul Revere warning the British.
| 497 |
Hawaii69 Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:20pm |
If John Kerry would switch parties, they might have a viable candidate.
It's 2004 all over again....sorta.
| 498 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:24pm |
re: #491 albusteve
Well, the President is out raising money:
Obama tells donors that big changes take time
With all those millions he has to convince the under-30 crowd to take 30 minutes out of their 4 years and register and then go vote.
That's asking for a lot.
| 499 |
nines09 Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:41pm |
My wife just went around the dial and I was standing in full view of the big screen and Michelle was moving her lips and saying "I am the answer to all human suffering. Just give more money to those that have more money and more money will magically appear. Of course we will have that magic money, but hey! That's magic!" What a line up. What a choice. What a decision. What a group of groupers on a group group mission. I simply must go cleanse myself, just for being within earshot.
| 500 |
Targetpractice Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:58pm |
re: #496 marjoriemoon
Didn't he call the afghan army the "Taliban military?" I had flashes of Paul Revere warning the British.
He did, then realized he'd flubbed and tried to correct himself. But be sure to hear that soundbite everywhere you turn tomorrow.
| 501 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:59pm |
re: #493 celticdragon
Pathetic.
I'm happy you agree....go take a load off
your anger is misplaced, and Chuck is still an asshole
| 502 |
jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:45:59pm |
re: #493 celticdragon
Pathetic.
I'll do it for you so Steve doesn't pitch a fit...
Steve how is "yes, listening to BO spew shit on the campaign trail...worse than waterboarding"
Not "Comparing a speech from President Obama to a serious warcrime?"
| 503 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:46:08pm |
re: #496 marjoriemoon
I'm sure a lot of people would be prepared to explain how many
Taliban are in the Afghan army, so he really wasn't wrong.
| 504 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:46:20pm |
| 505 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:47:23pm |
re: #500 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
He did, then realized he'd flubbed and tried to correct himself. But be sure to hear that soundbite everywhere you turn tomorrow.
You know his kicking himself for that faux paux!
| 506 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:47:58pm |
re: #504 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I'll take a glass of Chimay Red.
You misheard me. I said I've got beer.
| 507 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:48:01pm |
re: #504 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I'll take a glass of Chimay Red.
we got a couple local tripels which are hella nice
| 508 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:48:57pm |
re: #502 jamesfirecat
I'll do it for you so Steve doesn't pitch a fit...
Steve how is "yes, listening to BO spew shit on the campaign trail...worse than waterboarding"
Not "Comparing a speech from President Obama to a serious warcrime?"
it's a simple metaphore...why are you so concerned about my sarcasm?...are you repulsed by criticism of BO?
| 509 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:49:10pm |
re: #501 albusteve
I'm happy you agree...go take a load off
your anger is misplaced, and Chuck is still an asshole
Don't you have a bridge to terrorize?
I am not interested in playing semantic denial games with you.
You made a ridiculous and offensive claim. I jabbed at you about it and now you want to play the victim. Bullshit. Zark off.
| 510 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:49:33pm |
re: #503 jaunte
I'm sure a lot of people would be prepared to explain how many
Taliban are in the Afghan army, so he really wasn't wrong.
Aren't they kinda ex-sorta-in-a-way-used-to-be but-are-our-friends-now?
We should be drawing down. We will be drawing down, but we won't be leaving.
| 511 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:50:03pm |
re: #481 Slumbering Behemoth
Nope. I have blood sugar issues. I'll let you fatten up on the Twinkies, then...
Say, have you ever seen that movie "Alive"?
I'll just quote from the classic movie - MiB;
Eat me! Eat me!
| 512 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:50:12pm |
re: #507 WindUpBird
Ever try this one? Image: new%20belgium%20trippel.jpg
| 513 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:50:50pm |
re: #512 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Oh, I get sixers of that a lot *_*
| 514 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:50:52pm |
re: #511 b_sharp
I'll just quote from the classic movie - MiB;
Eat me! Eat me!
Dude, that's how Anthony got in trouble.
| 515 |
jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:50:53pm |
re: #508 albusteve
it's a simple metaphore...why are you so concerned about my sarcasm?...are you repulsed by criticism of BO?
I feel your metaphore in bad taste, especially when there are foolish people in this country who still don't view Waterboarding as "proper" torture, comparing it to listening to a speech only further muddies the issue.
| 516 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:51:06pm |
re: #509 celticdragon
Don't you have a bridge to terrorize?
I am not interested in playing semantic denial games with you.
You made a ridiculous and offensive claim. I jabbed at you about it and now you want to play the victim. Bullshit. Zark off.
it's not offensive to me...piss off or grow some skin
| 517 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:51:26pm |
re: #512 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
this is one of our tasty locals: [Link: www.ratebeer.com...]
| 518 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:51:45pm |
| 519 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:52:09pm |
re: #486 Lidane
Anyone who's watched Zombieland knows this. :D
That and the double tap.
Important lessons, both.
| 520 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:52:35pm |
re: #513 WindUpBird
Oh, I get sixers of that a lot *_*
Yeah, it packs a punch. I'm down with the Sam Boston Lager tonight.
| 521 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:52:36pm |
BorowitzReport
#CNNdebate Viewer Poll: 25% undecided; 75% unconscious
| 522 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:52:43pm |
re: #515 jamesfirecat
I feel your metaphore in bad taste, especially when there are foolish people in this country who still don't view Waterboarding as "proper" torture, comparing it to listening to a speech only further muddies the issue.
so what?...here's a clue, I don't care what you find offensive...poodles are always trying to make something out of nothing, nipping along
| 523 |
freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:52:52pm |
Sugar rush has peaked... and as I slowly lose consciousness I realize that all I'll remember about tonight is that Cain is still scared of MUZLIMS!! Everything else is just a sugary blur.
| 524 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:53:01pm |
I'm not saying anything else to "albusteve" on this as not to escalate this silliness.
| 525 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:53:08pm |
And now...
Bean soup recipe
1 1/2 cups mixed dried beans
7 cups chicken stock
1 red bell pepper
1/2 red onion
1 bunch cilantro
3 turnips
1 smoked sausage
3-5 cloves of garlic
1 tsp cilantro powder
1 tsp soul seasoning
1 tsp black pepper
Soak the beans overnight.
chop peppers, onion, turnips and sausage.
Bring chicken stock to a boil, add vegetables, spices and sausages
reduce to simmer for about 90 minutes, adding the cilantro, coursely cut after the first hour.
| 526 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:53:15pm |
re: #490 freetoken
BTW, what we're seeing down in the last AGW thread, by the late troll(s), is very much the same with the Adam & Eve & Genetics story.
The objectors are refusing to even deal with the subject matter. They refuse to even look at the claim in detail. The rejections are automatic, programmed, and intense.
You know you're getting close to a nerve when the reflex happens.
Or you're dealing with unthinking repeat-bots.
| 527 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:53:47pm |
re: #524 celticdragon
I'm not saying anything else to "albusteve" on this as not to escalate this silliness.
I'm crushed
| 528 |
Killgore Trout Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:54:15pm |
re: #525 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And now...
Bean soup recipe
1 1/2 cups mixed dried beans
7 cups chicken stock
1 red bell pepper
1/2 red onion
1 bunch cilantro
3 turnips
1 smoked sausage
3-5 cloves of garlic
1 tsp cilantro powder
1 tsp soul seasoning
1 tsp black pepperSoak the beans overnight.
chop peppers, onion, turnips and sausage.
Bring chicken stock to a boil, add vegetables, spices and sausages
reduce to simmer for about 90 minutes, adding the cilantro, coursely cut after the first hour.
Turnips are very underrated.
| 529 |
Interesting Times Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:54:17pm |
re: #517 WindUpBird
this is one of our tasty locals: [Link: www.ratebeer.com...]
Speaking of beer, did you hear about this heartless campaign against it?
| 530 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:54:24pm |
re: #523 freetoken
Sugar rush has peaked... and as I slowly lose consciousness I realize that all I'll remember about tonight is that Cain is still scared of MUZLIMS!! Everything else is just a sugary blur.
loyalty oath!
So nutty and crazed it almost makes him cute, like he's doing some retro McCarthy callback
Anyway, can't wait for the primary, a THOUSAND PIZZA JOKES
| 531 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:54:46pm |
re: #500 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
He did, then realized he'd flubbed and tried to correct himself. But be sure to hear that soundbite everywhere you turn tomorrow.
At least he admits he makes mistakes. That's more than you can say for Palin. Though I expect much more than "better than Sarah Palin". I could do a better job running the country than her.
| 532 |
Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:55:13pm |
re: #528 Killgore Trout
Turnips are very underrated.
Tasty as potatoes, but they don't get all mushy in the soup.
| 533 |
jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:55:34pm |
re: #490 freetoken
BTW, what we're seeing down in the last AGW thread, by the late troll(s), is very much the same with the Adam & Eve & Genetics story.
The objectors are refusing to even deal with the subject matter. They refuse to even look at the claim in detail. The rejections are automatic, programmed, and intense.
You know you're getting close to a nerve when the reflex happens.
The accusations of religious faith in AGW remind me of the same 'argument' being used in the old evolution/creationism threads.
| 534 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:56:08pm |
re: #525 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And now...
Bean soup recipe
1 1/2 cups mixed dried beans
7 cups chicken stock
1 red bell pepper
1/2 red onion
1 bunch cilantro
3 turnips
1 smoked sausage
3-5 cloves of garlic
1 tsp cilantro powder
1 tsp soul seasoning
1 tsp black pepperSoak the beans overnight.
chop peppers, onion, turnips and sausage.
Bring chicken stock to a boil, add vegetables, spices and sausages
reduce to simmer for about 90 minutes, adding the cilantro, coursely cut after the first hour.
Alright. Just WTF makes you think it's okay to steal from my pantry?
| 536 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:56:45pm |
re: #531 Dark_Falcon
At least he admits he makes mistakes. That's more than you can say for Palin. Though I expect much more than "better than Sarah Palin". I could do a better job running the country than her.
Lol little Trig could run the country better than her.
| 538 |
jamesfirecat Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:56:56pm |
| 539 |
b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:56:56pm |
re: #514 marjoriemoon
Dude, that's how Anthony got in trouble.
I took a pic of my weiner once. I had to use Macro mode.
| 540 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:57:19pm |
re: #529 publicityStunted
Speaking of beer, did you hear about this heartless campaign against it?
Oh! So he's putting the law back in place that oregon defeated in the 80's, which is the REASON WE HAVE A GREAT CRAFT BEER INDUSTRY TODAY
He really is the perfect Republican, just the ultimate in weak beer GOP values
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:57:24pm |
re: #529 publicityStunted
Speaking of beer, did you hear about this heartless campaign against it?
So much for the pro-small business GOP.
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moderatelyradicalliberal Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:57:34pm |
I missed this debate. Thank God.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:58:19pm |
re: #540 WindUpBird
Oh! So he's putting the law back in place that oregon defeated in the 80's, which is the REASON WE HAVE A GREAT CRAFT BEER INDUSTRY TODAY
He really is the perfect Republican, just the ultimate in weak beer GOP values
the Tap Nazis are here
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:58:23pm |
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:58:51pm |
re: #453 Slumbering Behemoth
And De Beers for... well, you know.
So I know the official spokesperson for platinum. And I know the official guy who speaks for the World Gold Council. We meet at a big convention for drinks. After a few cocktails they are bantering back and forth taking hilarious creative license with the official slogans. I'm standing there laughing and the Pt guy looks at me and says 'So what do you have to add to this?"(Knowing I work/sell/tech for a precious metals refinery)
I hang my head in mock shame. "I'm bi-metallic. There I admitted it". "But hey I'll go with Give Gold Get Some."
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:58:56pm |
re: #529 publicityStunted
Speaking of beer, did you hear about this heartless campaign against it?
I did see that. Why are so many conservatives so petrified of competition?
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 7:59:28pm |
re: #534 Slumbering Behemoth
Alright. Just WTF makes you think it's okay to steal from my pantry?
OMG! WHATS THAT BEHIND YOU?!
*punch to the neck*
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:00:02pm |
re: #543 albusteve
the Tap Nazis are here
the no-onsite distro is the big thing, that's really the core of a craft beer culture, is being able to brew your own stuff onsite and sell it
EVERYONE does that here, three 20-somethings can start a little hole in the wall pub here, and anchor it around a couple good beer recipes
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Interesting Times Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:00:03pm |
re: #531 Dark_Falcon
I'm curious about your opinion on this too - you've supported Walker in the past. Do you support what he's doing here? (re beer)
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jaunte Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:00:07pm |
re: #546 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Joining MillerCoors in support of the provision are industry associations that have an interest in preserving the current business of beer distributors, including the industry’s lobby, the Wisconsin Beer Distribution Association
The Beer Mafia.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:00:10pm |
re: #542 moderatelyradicalliberal
I missed this debate. Thank God.
I missed it also.. CNN is going to replay it in a few minutes
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:00:30pm |
There some sort of debatin' goin' on?
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Political Atheist Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:00:42pm |
re: #542 moderatelyradicalliberal
I missed this debate. Thank God.
I think you quote Huntsman there right? Heh.
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Kragar Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:00:43pm |
re: #539 b_sharp
I took a pic of my weiner once. I had to use Macro mode.
I tried to upload a picture of my unit once, but I exceeded my allocated bandwidth for the year.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:01:06pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:02:02pm |
re: #549 publicityStunted
I'm curious about your opinion on this too - you've supported Walker in the past. Do you support what he's doing here? (re beer)
Nope. He's doing the big firms with lobbying money a favor. I think a Dem would likely have done the same thing, but that doesn't make it any better.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:02:04pm |
re: #546 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I did see that. Why are so many conservatives so petrified of competition?
It would be helpful if each of our bought and paid for pols would just put their corporate sponsor logos on their suits...like you see on race cars.
Otherwise, we have to wait for trainwreck laws like this to see who bought off who. In this case we now know MillerCoors are partial owners of the Walker admin.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:02:49pm |
re: #548 WindUpBird
the no-onsite distro is the big thing, that's really the core of a craft beer culture, is being able to brew your own stuff onsite and sell it
EVERYONE does that here, three 20-somethings can start a little hole in the wall pub here, and anchor it around a couple good beer recipes
and the idea is to force these guys to sue...with the result of wiping them out financially...clever
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:02:58pm |
re: #554 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I tried to upload a picture of my unit once, but I exceeded my allocated bandwidth for the year.
I never have to wear a belt.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:03:09pm |
re: #556 Dark_Falcon
Nope. He's doing the big firms with lobbying money a favor. I think a Dem would likely have done the same thing, but that doesn't make it any better.
I'm sure.
/
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:03:25pm |
re: #556 Dark_Falcon
Nope. He's doing the big firms with lobbying money a favor. I think a Dem would likely have done the same thing, but that doesn't make it any better.
not dems I'm aware of!
Oregon killed laws like that, it was the opposite: small craft breweries lobbied the state and won, and now we have some of the best beer in the US
democratic values = better beer, simple as that :D
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:04:19pm |
re: #558 albusteve
and the idea is to force these guys to sue...with the result of wiping them out financially...clever
yup :(
Though craft brewers are all hippies, I could see a version of the EFF or the comic book legal defense fund, to help out Wisconsin's craft brewers
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:04:30pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:04:34pm |
re: #554 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I tried to upload a picture of my unit once, but I exceeded my allocated bandwidth for the year.
Yeah, the interwebs do not work well with electron microscopes.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:05:24pm |
re: #561 WindUpBird
not dems I'm aware of!
Oregon killed laws like that, it was the opposite: small craft breweries lobbied the state and won, and now we have some of the best beer in the US
democratic values = better beer, simple as that :D
I don't care about beer quality, since I don't drink beer. I was referring to Wisconsin, though, not Oregon.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:06:01pm |
re: #556 Dark_Falcon
Nope. He's doing the big firms with lobbying money a favor. I think a Dem would likely have done the same thing, but that doesn't make it any better.
Are you ready to admit that Walker and the Republicans broke the law in getting their anti union bill passed?:
So when Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi struck down Scott Walker’s ‘Budget Repair Bill’ which would limit the collective bargaining rights of all Wisconsin unions, I was furious. Convinced that an activist judge was attempting to create, or in this case, thwart law, I decided to actually read the official judgement and court finding papers. Well! What a surprise! I am a fair person. So I can’t ignore the following conclusions:
1) It is absolutely clear that Scott Walker and the Republican legislature broke the law when signing the “Budget Repair Bill”. They used sneaky tactics, such as using a tiny room that couldn’t accommodate the public. They purposely had too few security officers there to man both doors of the buildings, thus forcing the closure of one. They enforced screening at the one door and an additional one at the top of the stairs. They didn’t post even a two hour notice to the public, let alone the 24 hour notice normally required. They lied & said there was no more seating for the public, though there were open seats. They ‘closed’ the building at 6pm and forced the public out of the building and then held their meetings after 6. Basically, they broke their own rules!
Whatever happened to honor? This is not ok under any circumstance and embarrasses me, a conservative, to no end. What if a liberal legislature was allowed to do this to us? (oh yeah, they already did- when Congress passed Obama care unconstitutionally)! Walker should have had the courage to conduct his business, shouting over the mouth frothers if necessary, in public, in honor, and in a way that could make his supporters proud. All violent protesters could have been booted. Instead, he sneaked around getting signatures in dark hallways, lied and schemed in a way not worthy of any governor.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:06:41pm |
re: #529 publicityStunted
haha I just realised
the photo of that article, of the taps? is from Portland, because it's all local Portland beers, including one with no distro outside the NW
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:06:59pm |
re: #563 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
...a wholly-owned subsidiary of ArbeitFrei and AFP.
Downding for the Godwin's law violation.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:07:32pm |
re: #565 Dark_Falcon
I don't care about beer quality, since I don't drink beer. I was referring to Wisconsin, though, not Oregon.
To me, it's about how far producers of large-scale crap will go to squash the people who give them some competition.
Let the market decide, my rear end.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:08:31pm |
I don't care who you are, this is just funny...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:08:48pm |
Something showed up on my facebook page that may make me take a long positive look at Romney.
A friend (super tea-bagger/Ron Paul type) said that he looks like a game-show host to her. I'm leaning toward the guys on the right that those types don't seem to like.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:09:06pm |
re: #568 Dark_Falcon
Downding for the Godwin's law violation.
Ha, well I can't help it the Armey of Dicks named it that. That's on him.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:09:16pm |
re: #565 Dark_Falcon
I don't care about beer quality, since I don't drink beer. I was referring to Wisconsin, though, not Oregon.
I care about small business owners who make a superior product not being crushed by inferior crap, because I am a small business owner
And that is the GOP in a nutshell, helping inferior big business crap win
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:09:50pm |
re: #563 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
...a wholly-owned subsidiary of ArbeitFrei and AFP.
Ouch.
I don't think we can really compare bWalker to a Nazi work camp, though.
A cabinet level grifter in the Grant administration taking bribes to steal land from Native Americans (alive or dead) would be a bit more accurate.
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:10:52pm |
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:11:14pm |
re: #573 WindUpBird
I care about small business owners who make a superior product not being crushed by inferior crap, because I am a small business owner
And that is the GOP in a nutshell, helping inferior big business crap win
unless you're speaking of BO's car bailout...but that's probably different
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:11:31pm |
I like Obama. He pisses off the extremists from both sides of the aisle. This is a good thing, and I don't think I'd mind seeing him get a second term.
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:11:36pm |
re: #573 WindUpBird
I care about small business owners who make a superior product not being crushed by inferior crap, because I am a small business owner
And that is the GOP in a nutshell, helping inferior big business crap win
The inevitable outcomes of a completely open and free market are monopolies.
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windsagio Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:12:11pm |
re: #576 albusteve
He loves small car manufacturers, he just can't afford their products!
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:12:41pm |
You know, I think Newt's anti-Muslim statements were worse than Cain. Cain at least gave a lame and stupid excuse to cover himself. Newt goes into his story of how the Times Square would-be bomber was a Muslim immigrant who admitted to lying in court about pledging allegiance to the country.
I would call it a dogwhistle, but it was heard for miles.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:13:02pm |
re: #573 WindUpBird
I care about small business owners who make a superior product not being crushed by inferior crap, because I am a small business owner
And that is the GOP in a nutshell, helping inferior big business crap win
The GOP likes to use buzzwords such as "crony capitalism" to try and paint their opposition with their very own flaws. D_F's "I think a Dem would likely have done the same thing" is a perfect example of how that works, no proof, just raw ignorant assertion. Both sides are bad, LOL.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:14:17pm |
re: #577 Slumbering Behemoth
I like Obama. He pisses off the extremists from both sides of the aisle. This is a good thing, and I don't think I'd mind seeing him get a second term.
second term...
let me see that would come out to...
2,691 rounds of golf!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:14:40pm |
re: #576 albusteve
unless you're speaking of BO's car bailout...but that's probably different
If we actually had small businesses making mainstream cars, I'd say yeah!
But we don't, the only small businesses who make cars are coachbuilders and really really exclusive sports car makers and tuners, Panoz, Lingenfelter, hell Tesla is only barely getting their act together
I just figure the big three bailout was so we didn't just completely cede auto manufacturing to foreign car companies, a form of protectionism
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:14:52pm |
re: #573 WindUpBird
I care about small business owners who make a superior product not being crushed by inferior crap, because I am a small business owner
And that is the GOP in a nutshell, helping inferior big business crap win
I'm not defending Walker on this one. It's a give-away to big businesses with lobbying power and I don't favor those.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:15:08pm |
re: #580 marjoriemoon
You know, I think Newt's anti-Muslim statements were worse than Cain. Cain at least gave a lame and stupid excuse to cover himself. Newt goes into his story of how the Times Square would-be bomber was a Muslim immigrant who admitted to lying in court about pledging allegiance to the country.
I would call it a dogwhistle, but it was heard for miles.
I think a lot of people lie (or fake it) when pledging allegiance to this country.
Think of the percentage of people who admit that they are [Insert Any Religion Here] first, and American second.
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:15:26pm |
re: #581 goddamnedfrank
The GOP likes to use buzzwords such as "crony capitalism" to try and paint their opposition with their very own flaws. D_F's "I think a Dem would likely have done the same thing" is a perfect example of how that works, no proof, just raw ignorant assertion. Both sides are bad, LOL.
They are.
Vote Rhino.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:15:43pm |
re: #579 windsagio
He loves small car manufacturers, he just can't afford their products!
I would love an Esperante *_*
American made, hand-built, sexy as hell, and a bit out of my price range :D [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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bratwurst Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:15:46pm |
re: #571 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A friend (super tea-bagger/Ron Paul type) said that he looks like a game-show host to her. I'm leaning toward the guys on the right that those types don't seem to like.
Then Mitt is your man! There are few guarantees in this life, but I can 100% promise you that there is just not going to be a GOP candidate that tea partiers like less than Romney.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:16:55pm |
re: #574 celticdragon
Ouch.
I don't think we can really compare bWalker to a Nazi work camp, though.
A cabinet level grifter in the Grant administration taking bribes to steal land from Native Americans (alive or dead) would be a bit more accurate.
Lol true. But your post 557 reminded me of this, and all those Americans For Prosperity signage props (and dupes) at those ridiculous Stand With Walker rallies.
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:17:03pm |
re: #583 WindUpBird
If we actually had small businesses making mainstream cars, I'd say yeah!
But we don't, the only small businesses who make cars are coachbuilders and really really exclusive sports car makers and tuners, Panoz, Lingenfelter, hell Tesla is only barely getting their act together
I just figure the big three bailout was so we didn't just completely cede auto manufacturing to foreign car companies, a form of protectionism
Not to mention preserving half a million union jobs or something like that.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:17:16pm |
re: #588 bratwurst
Then Mitt is your man! There are few guarantees in this life, but I can 100% promise you that there is just not going to be a GOP candidate that tea partiers like less than Romney.
top-down GOP versus grassroots Tpers WHO WILL WIN (and therefore lose to Obama)
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:19:27pm |
re: #585 Slumbering Behemoth
I think a lot of people lie (or fake it) when pledging allegiance to this country.
Think of the percentage of people who admit that they are [Insert Any Religion Here] first, and American second.
In the 30 years I've been in Miami, I've known many immigrants. Maybe 100s of people. I can't say I speak for every one, but I never met anyone who came here legally who was doing it for nefarious reasons.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:19:31pm |
re: #582 albusteve
Oh dear, a POTUS with a relaxing hobby. Whatever will the ladies at the tea social think?
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:20:20pm |
re: #591 WindUpBird
top-down GOP versus grassroots Tpers WHO WILL WIN (and therefore lose to Obama)
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:20:23pm |
re: #583 WindUpBird
If we actually had small businesses making mainstream cars, I'd say yeah!
But we don't, the only small businesses who make cars are coachbuilders and really really exclusive sports car makers and tuners, Panoz, Lingenfelter, hell Tesla is only barely getting their act together
I just figure the big three bailout was so we didn't just completely cede auto manufacturing to foreign car companies, a form of protectionism
well I had more confidence in the industry and would have preferred bankruptcy or even offshore investment...the US is making a bunch of kickass cars these days...the union gig I don't even want to argue, but they would have survived....it all depends on how you look at it and what the costs are in terms of jobs, union power, public perception etc
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:20:29pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:21:02pm |
re: #582 albusteve
second term...
let me see that would come out to...
2,691 rounds of golf!
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:21:50pm |
re: #592 marjoriemoon
In the 30 years I've been in Miami, I've known many immigrants. Maybe 100s of people. I can't say I speak for every one, but I never met anyone who came here legally who was doing it for nefarious reasons.
It's a GOP lie, to make people afraid of immigrants and not just Muslims, but it trickles down to all and that's what they're doing.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:22:00pm |
re: #592 marjoriemoon
In the 30 years I've been in Miami, I've known many immigrants. Maybe 100s of people. I can't say I speak for every one, but I never met anyone who came here legally who was doing it for nefarious reasons.
Yeah, I kind of went off on a tangent there. I do that sometimes.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:22:18pm |
re: #595 albusteve
well I had more confidence in the industry and would have preferred bankruptcy or even offshore investment...the US is making a bunch of kickass cars these days...the union gig I don't even want to argue, but they would have survived...it all depends on how you look at it and what the costs are in terms of jobs, union power, public perception etc
DREAM WAGON [Link: www.caranddriver.com...]
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:22:21pm |
re: #593 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh dear, a POTUS with a relaxing hobby. Whatever will the ladies at the tea social think?
they will conclude that no man needs that much golf, he has another sport...obviously a mistress
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:23:09pm |
re: #580 marjoriemoon
It did what it was intended to do.
Indeed, the whole affair was dressing up a pig with lipstick, to borrow a phrase from the last election.
Where the "base" is at: OBAMA IS AMERICA-HATING MUZLIM COMMUNIST ATHEIST ONE-WORLDER!!
However, in "decent" circles that is unacceptable to say in public, so the candidates had to try and make that pig look respectable.
So tonight the candidates focused on Obama (not each other or even the issues), and we heard that that the President doesn't really have America's interests at heart, that Muslims are here to kill us, that real Americans believe in God and mention that at every possible instance, and that the US should always be the dominant leader in every effort in which we engage even in the smallest amount.
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:23:15pm |
re: #599 Slumbering Behemoth
Yeah, I kind of went off on a tangent there. I do that sometimes.
S'ok, I'm familiar with tangents.
The immigration debate makes me cranky.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:23:49pm |
re: #593 Slumbering Behemoth
I've seen his swing. How on earth can that be relaxing?
I've tried golfing; I sucked at it; was the furthest thing in the world that I have ever done from relaxing.
I support his right to golf. But, I can't imagine that it is relaxing. A type "A" guy like that? I'm surprised he is not embarrassed out of his mind. (I sure was.)
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celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:23:59pm |
Daily Show dealing with fresh water scarcity.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:25:00pm |
re: #596 celticdragon
You should have called it Freiheit-Arbeiten ;)
This is true: I used to. Took too long to say, though.
Ah well, if one has to explain their jokes, they're not such good jokes lol
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:25:07pm |
re: #600 WindUpBird
DREAM WAGON [Link: www.caranddriver.com...]
I hear you...a legend in the making...the 540whatever horsepower does like 195. with a hatchback!
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:25:21pm |
re: #595 albusteve
well I had more confidence in the industry and would have preferred bankruptcy or even offshore investment...the US is making a bunch of kickass cars these days...the union gig I don't even want to argue, but they would have survived...it all depends on how you look at it and what the costs are in terms of jobs, union power, public perception etc
So in other words you're saying the auto bailout worked really well, you'd just have rather it been done different?
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:25:58pm |
Charles, can you delete 594. I have no idea what the download is and I don't think anyone should find out.
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freetoken Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:27:09pm |
re: #610 b_sharp
It's a guy posing in the mirror (has pants on)... someone well known, I think. I've seen it before in some stream somewhere.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:27:32pm |
re: #593 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh dear, a POTUS with a relaxing hobby. Whatever will the ladies at the tea social think?
Nothing wrong with golf. Both Presidents Bush play golf, though George W. stopped playing after 9/11 till he left office (to avoid being thought frivolous).
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:27:55pm |
re: #609 Conservative Moonbat
So in other words you're saying the auto bailout worked really well, you'd just have rather it been done different?
I would not have 'bailed' either company... but it's done and BO cleared the books only there were billions lost in the deal...what do you say about that?
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:28:04pm |
re: #610 b_sharp
Charles, can you delete 594. I have no idea what the download is and I don't think anyone should find out.
uh huh
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:28:16pm |
To you Tweeters out there
Do you block advertisers from following you?
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:28:41pm |
re: #613 albusteve
I would not have 'bailed' either company... but it's done and BO cleared the books only there were billions lost in the deal...what do you say about that?
The auto companies have repaid most of the debt by now haven't they?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:29:23pm |
re: #578 b_sharp
The inevitable outcomes of a completely open and free market are monopolies.
Exactly. I suppose that's why some people do all that shrieking about free markets. Now, why some dupes also go around imitating them, I've never been clear on.
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albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:30:21pm |
re: #616 Conservative Moonbat
The auto companies have repaid most of the debt by now haven't they?
the feds lost a ton with GM....14billion or whatever...google it
BO was very misleading about that last week
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:30:23pm |
re: #615 marjoriemoon
To you Tweeters out there
Do you block advertisers from following you?
They should have a button next to their handle on your 'followers' list.
| 621 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:30:33pm |
re: #617 freetoken
I haven't gotten that far yet.
Ah ok. I've had realtors, beauty salons, construction companies... why should I give them free advertising? Am I wrong?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:30:35pm |
re: #597 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Doesn't count as an adequate Magical Balance Fairy. Obama has already played twice as many rounds of golf into his first term as Bush had in all eight of his years in office.
And did you hear how many times he used the word "I" in his last speech?
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What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:31:03pm |
re: #620 Dark_Falcon
They should have a button next to their handle on your 'followers' list.
They do, I'm just asking if anyone blocks them. Just curious.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:31:14pm |
re: #619 albusteve
the feds lost a ton with GM...14billion or whatever...google it
BO was very misleading about that last week
Quite Concur.
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b_sharp Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:32:00pm |
re: #622 Slumbering Behemoth
Doesn't count as an adequate Magical Balance Fairy. Obama has already played twice as many rounds of golf into his first term as Bush had in all eight of his years in office.
And did you hear how many times he used the word "I" in his last speech?
I wouldn't hazard a guess.
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Robert O. Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:32:25pm |
Charles, maybe we should have a poll who won the debate:
- Bachmann
- Cain
- Gingrich
- Paul
- Pawlenty
- Romney
- Santorum
- Obama :-) [That was the most popular option on Facebook]
| 627 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:33:35pm |
re: #623 marjoriemoon
They do, I'm just asking if anyone blocks them. Just curious.
I don't have any following me, but I wouldn't block them. So far I've only blocked accounts from the Stalker Blog.
(Steve, I am only mentioning them in the context of blocking them on Twitter. Nothing more.)
| 628 |
Political Atheist Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:34:40pm |
re: #615 marjoriemoon
To you Tweeters out there
Do you block advertisers from following you?
nobody has yet... you must be extra popular!
| 629 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:35:55pm |
re: #616 Conservative Moonbat
The auto companies have repaid most of the debt by now haven't they?
Yes.
| 630 |
Dark_Falcon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:37:21pm |
re: #622 Slumbering Behemoth
Doesn't count as an adequate Magical Balance Fairy. Obama has already played twice as many rounds of golf into his first term as Bush had in all eight of his years in office.
And did you hear how many times he used the word "I" in his last speech?
That's because George W. Bush largely stopped play golf by 2003. He did that because he feared pictures of him playing golf while American troops were fighting would be used to make him seem "out-of-touch" and "elitist". Obama has less to worry about when it comes to that, because too many of the people making such a charge are crazed haters. Thus any charge to that effect made by a sane person is rendered tainted by the loons.
| 631 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:37:23pm |
re: #615 marjoriemoon
To you Tweeters out there
Do you block advertisers from following you?
Yes. Them and shrieking rwnj get tossed on the same scrap heap.
| 632 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:37:59pm |
re: #628 Rightwingconspirator
nobody has yet... you must be extra popular!
lol I have a sign on me "Your AD here"
| 633 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:38:20pm |
re: #625 b_sharp
It just doesn't rise to the level of outrage for me. It's not as if a person's brain completely turns off every time they leave the office for a break.
And sometimes, a change of scenery, a bit of a walk, and some fresh air can give you new insight and perspective into the issues of the office.
| 634 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:38:38pm |
re: #631 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yes. Them and shrieking rwnj get tossed on the same scrap heap.
Indeed. My cranky list is growing!
| 635 |
What, me worry? Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:39:34pm |
re: #631 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yes. Them and shrieking rwnj get tossed on the same scrap heap.
Well Sir (or Madam) you have just gained a follower :)
| 636 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:39:56pm |
re: #622 Slumbering Behemoth
Doesn't count as an adequate Magical Balance Fairy.
Wasn't meant to. TBH, I could really give a crud how much golf either of them play or played.
| 637 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:40:14pm |
re: #629 celticdragon
Yes.
wrong...the feds are dumping GM stock at a huge loss, probably $10-15b....go to the WSJ
[Link: a12iggymom.wordpress.com...]
[Link: www.moneynews.com...]
| 638 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:41:34pm |
re: #635 marjoriemoon
Madam, ty. Haven't been on twitter today but you'll get a followback.
| 639 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:42:20pm |
re: #616 Conservative Moonbat
The auto companies have repaid most of the debt by now haven't they?
re: #629 celticdragon
Yes.
No. Not just yet.
| 640 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:44:57pm |
On Thursday evening, the Treasury Department issued a statement that the government had reached final terms with Italian auto-giant Fiat on selling the government’s remaining 6 percent share of Chrysler, plus shares held in trust for its retirement program. Mr. Obama will announce the $560 million deal Friday during his Ohio visit.Although taxpayers still stand to lose nearly 20 percent of the auto bailout funds, it’s less than the 60 percent loss the Treasury Department initially forecas
t.[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
Yeah, I don't have a real problem with saving tens of thousands of high paying jobs and saving strategic heavy manufacturing infrastructure. We got most of the money back...which is a damned sight more then we will ever get from Iraq...after we were told the war would pay for itsself.
| 641 |
celticdragon Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:47:51pm |
re: #637 albusteve
wrong...the feds are dumping GM stock at a huge loss, probably $10-15b...go to the WSJ
[Link: a12iggymom.wordpress.com...]
[Link: www.moneynews.com...]
Wev are getting 80% of the money back. Last I checked, that is 'most', but maybe you went to school with the "new math".
| 642 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:48:41pm |
re: #640 celticdragon
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
Yeah, I don't have a real problem with saving tens of thousands of high paying jobs and saving strategic heavy manufacturing infrastructure. We got most of the money back...which is a damned sight more then we will ever get from Iraq...after we were told the war would pay for itsself.
nobody told me that...if they had I would have laughed at them....you can't believe every blub you listen to
| 643 |
albusteve Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:49:57pm |
re: #641 celticdragon
Wev are getting 80% of the money back. Last I checked, that is 'most', but maybe you went to school with the "new math".
the money was not paid back...pretty simple, yet you don't seem to appreciate being informed
| 644 |
goddamnedfrank Mon, Jun 13, 2011 8:51:43pm |
re: #641 celticdragon
Wev are getting 80% of the money back. Last I checked, that is 'most', but maybe you went to school with the "new math".
Also, it might be interesting to compare the gross tax revenue lost and unemployment benefit pay outs had they been allowed to go under. The ripple effects on the economy and deficit would have been devastating.
| 645 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 14, 2011 12:19:22am |
re: #41 Decatur Deb
Those 23 foster children were in the hands of her pray-away-the-gay husband.
Hopefully he makes good grilled-cheese sandwiches.
I wonder how my husband would do with foster kids.
Probably best to experiment on our own children before trying him out on anyone else's.
| 646 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 14, 2011 12:20:57am |
re: #65 Jerk
Should illegal immigrant children get care in an ER? Ron Paul: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!
The Catholic Church would answer 'yes' to that question, but it's not running for President.
| 647 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jun 14, 2011 12:45:34am |
re: #536 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Lol little Trig could run the country better than her.
Toddler Nation.
| 648 |
lostlakehiker Tue, Jun 14, 2011 1:35:40am |
re: #633 Slumbering Behemoth
It just doesn't rise to the level of outrage for me. It's not as if a person's brain completely turns off every time they leave the office for a break.
And sometimes, a change of scenery, a bit of a walk, and some fresh air can give you new insight and perspective into the issues of the office.
Oh, absolutely. By all means, presidents should get out of their office and take breaks. The last thing we want is for them to become absorbed by their office and go stir crazy.
| 649 |
lostlakehiker Tue, Jun 14, 2011 1:40:15am |
re: #345 Charles
Yes, you know what you're getting with Ron Paul, but no, you don't have to like it.
He's a racist, misogynistic bigot who advocates insane monetary policies that were discredited in the last century.
There's nothing to like about Ron Paul.
I like it that he loses by truly comical margins whenever he runs for a presidential nomination.
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