MN Senate Climate Change Denier: Ordained by ‘Christian Motor Sports International’

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Here’s a classic example of the bizarre reality-denying cognitive dissonance of right wing climate change deniers.

In the Minnesota State Senate, one of the loudest voices against accepting the scientific reality of climate change is Michael Jungbauer, who’s known for making grand pronouncements about “not being convinced” by the science, and grand claims of being a scientist himself. Here’s a video he uploaded to YouTube, presumably because he believes it casts him in a good light:

Youtube Video

The problem with Jungbauer’s claims of scientific expertise is simple — they’re just flat out lies. In truth, his educational background includes no degrees in science; in fact, he has no degrees at all, because he never graduated from college. He’s a “water and sewage treatment specialist” who attended Moody Bible Institute, and was ordained as a minister by “Christian Motor Sports International.” (That’s not a joke.)

And that’s not the end of his distortions: Background claims by state Senate’s global-warming skeptic fail to check out.

Even though his published biography lists his higher education credits from Moody Bible Institute, Anoka Ramsey Community College and Metropolitan State University and that he is working on his master’s degree in environmental policy and that he has a background in biochemistry, it turns out he has never graduated from college. He doesn’t have a bachelor’s degree.

He is an ordained minister, of sorts. But, although his official biography says he has a degree from Moody, he does not. In direct answer to my question, Jungbauer responded: “No I did not graduate. But I have a certificate.”

The truth is that Jungbauer was ordained by Christian Motor Sports International out of Gilbert, Ariz. His Senate biography says the organization provides “chapel services, pastoral care, outreach and Christian fellowship at car races, car shows, cruise-ins and tractor pulls.” …

He has said he has a major in biochemistry. That suggests he received a degree with enough credit hours to give him a major in that important science. But he does not have a degree in biochemistry. He told me that he is getting a master’s degree in environmental policy at Metropolitan State University, but that school doesn’t have a master’s program in environmental policy. When I asked him about that, he said: “Well, that’s what they told me.”

He tells people from his committee perch “in my tropospherical chemistry class they said there is no scientific evidence that would link CO₂ to higher temperatures.” I don’t doubt someone said that to Sen. Jungbauer, but whoever said it would be the only scientist in the world who thinks that.

But that is not the important point. What’s important is that there is no evidence Jungbauer ever took a “tropospherical chemistry” class. When I confronted him with that inconsistency, he said: “Well, it was part of a discussion in another class I took.”

Ooohkay. But uneducated religious fanatics and scientific ignoramuses are exactly what right wing groups like the Heartland Institute are looking for, especially if they’re good at sounding like real scientists.

By way of explanation, Jungbauer told me that he has attended lots of classes in other parts of the country, and had gone to lots of conferences. One of the conferences he attended was the fourth International Conference on Climate Change sponsored by the Heartland Institute. He has been a featured speaker for Heartland. Heartland is a fossil-fuel funded, conservative think-tank designed to protect the interests of oil and coal from government regulation.

Jungbauer told me he gets no contributions from Heartland, but he has been paid to speak at conferences and on Heartland-sponsored radio programs. Heartland gets a lot of the money it pays to Jungbauer from Exxon-Mobil, Koch Brothers and the Scaife Foundation.

People like Jungbauer are driving the anti-science agenda of the Republican Party.

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82 comments
1 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:27:55pm

See, this guy is also lying to the American public, like Weiner. Unlike Weiner, he’s lying about something that actually affects them.

So why isn’t he being told to resign?

I don’t get it. I seriously don’t.

2 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:28:26pm

The GOP is entering the Golden Age of making shit up.

3 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:28:48pm

re: #1 Obdicut

See, this guy is also lying to the American public, like Weiner. Unlike Weiner, he’s lying about something that actually affects them.

So why isn’t he being told to resign?

I don’t get it. I seriously don’t.

No penis was involved.

4 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:29:25pm

“What school did you go to, Mr. Jungbauer?”

“All of them!”

5 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:29:43pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You know, this guy does kind of remind me of…

6 recusancy  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:29:57pm

re: #1 Obdicut

See, this guy is also lying to the American public, like Weiner. Unlike Weiner, he’s lying about something that actually affects them.

So why isn’t he being told to resign?

I don’t get it. I seriously don’t.

When Bush Lied People Died is more than just a bumper sticker. It’s the double standard world we live in.

7 elizajane  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:31:06pm

Minnesota. Giving Texas a run for the coveted “State With Most Goofballs” designation.

8 Simply Sarah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:32:37pm

re: #7 elizajane

Minnesota. Giving Texas a run for the coveted “State With Most Goofballs” designation.

Total or per capita?

9 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:34:07pm

re: #8 Simply Sarah

Total or per capita?


Can’t it be both?

10 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:34:46pm

I have a degree from the Museum of Science and Trucking.
At least, that’s what they told me./

11 Simply Sarah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:34:59pm

re: #9 BongCrodny

Can’t it be both?

Sure! Pretty tall order, though. Not sure they’re up to it. Gonna have to bring their wackiest game to have a chance.

12 allegro  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:35:34pm

re: #1 Obdicut

See, this guy is also lying to the American public, like Weiner. Unlike Weiner, he’s lying about something that actually affects them.

So why isn’t he being told to resign?

I don’t get it. I seriously don’t.

Resign from what? I’m not seeing any evidence that he has a job.

13 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:36:06pm

re: #12 allegro

Maybe he’s lying about being a senator, too. He just snuck in one day and blended in by being a lying asshole.

14 allegro  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:39:31pm

re: #13 Obdicut

Maybe he’s lying about being a senator, too. He just snuck in one day and blended in by being a lying asshole.

Oops, I didn’t catch that. But with all of his other false claims, that wouldn’t be surprising.

15 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:41:14pm

Jungbauer was ordained by Christian Motor Sports International out of Gilbert, Ariz. His Senate biography says the organization provides “chapel services, pastoral care, outreach and Christian fellowship at car races, car shows, cruise-ins and tractor pulls.” …

not a joke?

16 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:41:28pm

re: #11 Simply Sarah

Sure! Pretty tall order, though. Not sure they’re up to it. Gonna have to bring their wackiest game to have a chance.

More Calvinball politics. Make up the rules and change them as you go along. So they touch the opposite pole a few times and then have to sing the “I’m Sorry” song in order to make it all right again.

Then again this is running a state or country, not a child’s game. So maybe it is not so innocent…
:(

17 Simply Sarah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:42:22pm

re: #15 engineer dog

Jungbauer was ordained by Christian Motor Sports International out of Gilbert, Ariz. His Senate biography says the organization provides “chapel services, pastoral care, outreach and Christian fellowship at car races, car shows, cruise-ins and tractor pulls.” …

not a joke?

Well, it’s still a joke, but it appears that’s actually the reality of the situation.

18 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:42:31pm

“I have a background in biochemistry.”

Translated: “I am a carbon-based life form.”

19 allegro  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:42:36pm

re: #14 allegro

Oops, I didn’t catch that. But with all of his other false claims, that wouldn’t be surprising.

I was distracted by the hilarity of:

… ordained as a minister by “Christian Motor Sports International.

…provides “chapel services, pastoral care, outreach and Christian fellowship at car races, car shows, cruise-ins and tractor pulls.” …

There is a SNL sketch there that could never compete with the apparent reality.

20 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:42:41pm

re: #15 engineer dog

Jungbauer was ordained by Christian Motor Sports International out of Gilbert, Ariz. His Senate biography says the organization provides “chapel services, pastoral care, outreach and Christian fellowship at car races, car shows, cruise-ins and tractor pulls.” …

not a joke?

Nope, it’s not a joke. I know it’s hard to believe, but here’s their website:

[Link: www.christianmotorsports.com…]

21 Simply Sarah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:44:29pm

re: #16 oaktree

More Calvinball politics. Make up the rules and change them as you go along. So they touch the opposite pole a few times and then have to sing the “I’m Sorry” song in order to make it all right again.

Then again this is running a state or country, not a child’s game. So maybe it is not so innocent…
:(

I’m pretty sure a GOP politician caught touching the opposite pole would have bigger issues than “I’m Sorry” would fix.

22 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:44:53pm
23 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:45:28pm

re: #20 Charles

Nope, it’s not a joke. I know it’s hard to believe, but here’s their website:

[Link: www.christianmotorsports.com…]

Thank God we have a counter to the emerging threat of Sharia tractor pulls.

24 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:48:32pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thank God we have a counter to the emerging threat of Sharia tractor pulls.

MONSTER MUSLIM TRUCKS!!1!

25 allegro  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:49:17pm

re: #20 Charles

Nope, it’s not a joke. I know it’s hard to believe, but here’s their website:

[Link: www.christianmotorsports.com…]

Noting they graciously accept donations and sell insurance. Found this… interesting as well:

Prison Victory Magazine is the “sister” magazine of CMI that is designed to go behind the scenes in prisons… reaching into the deepest darkest holes bringing the hope of Jesus Christ using motorsports, hot rods, motorcycles etc. sprinkled with hard core answers to behavioral questions, relationship issues, chemical challenges and general bad actions that got us here to start with…

Celebrating life, love, freedom and the pursuit of being a productive member of the society… How to successfully complete the sentence, write effective parole letters, parole out to a meaningful life, changing your thoughts, words and deeds right now to facilitate a productive life and going back in to get the rest of the guys out…

We’re like firemen in a blazing inferno… first get out, stay out and go get the rest out!!!

Write an effective parole letter? Hopefully your governor is one like Huckabee who finds your coming to Jesus enough to see you free, FREE to rape and kill again…

26 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:49:33pm

re: #20 Charles

Nope, it’s not a joke. I know it’s hard to believe, but here’s their website:

[Link: www.christianmotorsports.com…]

holy surrealistic universe designed by hunter s thompson, batman!

27 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:49:46pm

re: #23 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thank God we have a counter to the emerging threat of Sharia tractor pulls.

Since they are also liberal socialists wouldn’t these by Prius pulls?

28 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:50:30pm

re: #24 iceweasel

MONSTER MUSLIM TRUCKS!!1!


When you die and go to heaven, you get 72 free oil changes.

29 Varek Raith  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:50:38pm

Lol.

30 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:51:06pm

re: #24 iceweasel

MONSTER MUSLIM TRUCKS!!1!

Its a well known fact that Killdozer converted to Islam during the late 90s.

31 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:52:56pm

Ministry— Jesus Built My Hotrod

32 allegro  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:54:56pm

re: #25 allegro

Noting they graciously accept donations and sell insurance. Found this… interesting as well:

Write an effective parole letter? Hopefully your governor is one like Huckabee who finds your coming to Jesus enough to see you free, FREE to rape and kill again…

I kid. No actually, I mock. I can’t recall the number of times I’ve been told how I have to respect other people’s religious beliefs. Are you kidding? There is no mocking I could ever do that could equal the joke these supposed believers are making of the Christian religion.

33 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:55:49pm

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its a well known fact that Killdozer converted to Islam during the late 90s.

If Killdozer had converted to Orthadox Judaism would it have to shut itself off on Friday at sunset?

34 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:56:01pm

re: #8 Simply Sarah

Total or per capita?

Per square foot.

35 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:56:35pm

re: #33 oaktree

Human being are allowed to connect their synapses during shabbos, so I doubt it.

36 [deleted]  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:56:38pm
37 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:57:59pm

chapel services, pastoral care, outreach and Christian fellowship at car races, car shows, cruise-ins and tractor pulls

can they help me with forgiveness and absolution at tough code reviews?

38 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:59:00pm

re: #35 Obdicut

Human being are allowed to connect their synapses during shabbos, so I doubt it.

Another theoretical question for the rabbi? I guess it would be an issue if there are ever self-aware robots and they choose to get religious.

39 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 1:59:52pm

re: #20 Charles

Nope, it’s not a joke. I know it’s hard to believe, but here’s their website:

[Link: www.christianmotorsports.com…]

The Institute of Racing and Jesus.

40 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:00:55pm

re: #39 Jimmah

The Institute of Racing and Jesus.

But aren’t all NASCAR fans essentially leftists? I don’t see any advocating that NASCAR tracks push for races where everyone turns right!

:)

41 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:02:12pm

re: #32 allegro

I kid. No actually, I mock. I can’t recall the number of times I’ve been told how I have to respect other people’s religious beliefs. Are you kidding? There is no mocking I could ever do that could equal the joke these supposed believers are making of the Christian religion.

I always tell people that I respect their right to have their own beliefs, but that the beliefs themselves are to be dealt with on a case by case basis.

42 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:03:10pm

re: #20 Charles

Nope, it’s not a joke. I know it’s hard to believe, but here’s their website:

[Link: www.christianmotorsports.com…]


That’s a pretty interesting message board they’ve got there.

Last post: June 4, 2009

43 windsagio  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:03:50pm

“Where the Kingdom of God meets the World of Man and Macchines!”

I’d watch that movie!


(Seriously, those guys have got to be the find of the week)

44 iceweasel  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:04:01pm

re: #40 oaktree

But aren’t all NASCAR fans essentially leftists? I don’t see any advocating that NASCAR tracks push for races where everyone turns right!

:)

Sounds ferrin, drivin’ clockwise. ;)

45 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:05:00pm

re: #22 BongCrodny

Jesus of NASCAR

Jesus built my hotrod:

I think we do need a second coming of Jesus just so he can smack some sense into these people. Of course they’d call him the Antichrist because he’d tell them to stop being ignorant, bigots and pick up a science book.

46 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:06:05pm

re: #42 BongCrodny

That’s a pretty interesting message board they’ve got there.

Last post: June 4, 2009



And the real motivation…


Christian Motorsports Ministries (CMM) is a tax exempt IRS 501c3 ministry incorporated in the state of Texas.
47 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:06:09pm

re: #43 windsagio

“Where the Kingdom of God meets the World of Man and Macchines!”

I’d watch that movie!

(Seriously, those guys have got to be the find of the week)

That blue car in the pic with “JESUS SAVES” in impact font on the front bonnet cracked me up.

48 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:06:26pm

re: #43 windsagio

“Where the Kingdom of God meets the World of Man and Macchines!”

I’d watch that movie!

(Seriously, those guys have got to be the find of the week)

Unus Deus Ex Machina.

49 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:07:10pm

re: #45 Idle Drifter

Jesus built my hotrod:

[Video]I think we do need a second coming of Jesus just so he can smack some sense into these people. Of course they’d call him the Antichrist because he’d tell them to stop being ignorant, bigots and pick up a science book.

Thomas Aquinas would be called a left wing crackpot by the GOP today.

50 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:07:12pm

That a straight up fraud can be elected 3 times and sits on a powerful committee barking out bullshit is testament to the sad state of modern journalism. Too bad it took Mr. Shelby so long to find the truth.

51 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:07:29pm

re: #24 iceweasel

MONSTER MUSLIM TRUCKS!!1!

This Sunday Sunday Sunday! See all your monster truck favourites. The Terrible Turban, The Pakistani Punisher, The Afghan Annihilator and the meanest of them all, the Iranian Incinerator!

52 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:08:09pm

A “water and sewage treatment specialist”. It figures, the denial industry is always looking for people that are experts at shoveling bullshit.

53 windsagio  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:08:11pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So would Jesus, but I guess that’s hardly new news :P

54 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:08:37pm

re: #51 dragonfire1981

This Sunday Sunday Sunday! See all your monster truck favourites. The Terrible Turban, The Pakistani Punisher, The Afghan Annihilator and the meanest of them all, the Iranian Incinerator!

You’ll pay for the whole seat but you’ll only use…THE EDGE!

55 windsagio  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:08:58pm

re: #47 Jimmah

It should say, “And the good Lord said, OUTTA MY WAY!”

That’s probably too long tho’ :(

56 windsagio  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:09:39pm

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Totally OT, but speaking of ‘The Edge’.

Tim Langdell got his teeth kicked in by a judge again.

57 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:10:10pm

Is it sad I have already started rehearsing how I will exiplain to my kids why China is kicking our ass at pretty much everything 10 to 15 years from now?

58 windsagio  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:11:34pm

You guys thought you were joking with the monster trucks:

[Link: www.covenantracing.com…]

59 windsagio  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:13:13pm

re: #58 windsagio

actually, the covenant racing page is pretty funny in general.

“Look at all the magazines we’re on the cover of! (Hint: They’re all issues of CMM)”

60 Querent  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:13:15pm

They’ve cleared the TerrrrrraDerp threshhold and are about to go plaid…

61 Jimmah  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:13:24pm

Dinner! Later guys.

62 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:13:31pm

He he. They’re already changing his Wiki page

“However, MinnPost reported on June 16, 2011, that he never graduated, and that the closest thing he has to a bachelor of science degree is a ministerial ordainment from Christian Motorsports International, which provides “chapel services” at “races, car shows, cruise-ins, and tractor pulls.”

63 Kragar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:13:36pm

re: #56 windsagio

Totally OT, but speaking of ‘The Edge’.

Tim Langdell got his teeth kicked in by a judge again.

My puzzler hurts reading that.

64 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:15:28pm

Commander Cody Hotrod Lincoln

65 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:15:40pm

Ry Cooder has some Jesus songs and some car songs, but it’s hard to find them together. This one is mostly cars, but Jesus makes a cameo appearance.

66 celticdragon  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:24:21pm
He tells people from his committee perch “in my tropospherical chemistry class they said there is no scientific evidence that would link CO₂

That right there is a huge tip off that he is bullshitting. No such class in any earth science/geology department I have ever seen…which is where meterology usually gets put.

67 spocomptonite  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:25:23pm

I haven’t been able to get a job with my degree. Maybe I should’ve gone into politics where I could say that I invented my field.

68 celticdragon  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:26:02pm

re: #57 dragonfire1981

Is it sad I have already started rehearsing how I will exiplain to my kids why China is kicking our ass at pretty much everything 10 to 15 years from now?

Because we prefer to tell ourselves we are the best and wave our green foam fingers in the air while screaming at anybody who dares to mention that other nations are eating our lunch and leaving us behind.

69 celticdragon  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:27:18pm

re: #1 Obdicut

See, this guy is also lying to the American public, like Weiner. Unlike Weiner, he’s lying about something that actually affects them.

So why isn’t he being told to resign?

I don’t get it. I seriously don’t.


Because his base of support likes his lies and encourages more of it.

70 windsagio  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:28:14pm

re: #69 celticdragon

also, oOOOoOOooh! Sex!!

71 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:29:13pm

re: #69 celticdragon

Because his base of support likes his lies and encourages more of it.

and you can’t get on cable news these days unless there’s a penis involved

that’s mitt’s problem…

72 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:32:40pm

re: #71 engineer dog

and you can’t get on cable news these days unless there’s a penis involved

that’s mitt’s problem…

a penis in a mitt!?!?!

I prefer a fur glove!

(((oooppppssss,,, did I type that out loud !?!?!))))

73 darthstar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:35:22pm

Fuck…been in meetings all fucking day…missed the Romney “I’m also unemployed” discussion. I’m sure that went over about as well as faking being grabbed on the ass by a waitress (though Chris Matthews thought that move was priceless, just priceless! HA! - he then went on to show Romney’s “Who let the dogs out” with black girls, his dog-on-roof story with Chris Wallace, and a few other “Who the fuck does he think he’s kidding?” moments of regular-guy-ness).

Anyway, I’m glad he’s unemployed…but is he taking unemployment?

74 darthstar  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:36:22pm

re: #72 sattv4u2

a penis in a mitt!?!?!


Who let my cock out? Who-who-who-who-WHO!

75 Spocomptonite  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:36:36pm

re: #1 Obdicut

See, this guy is also lying to the American public, like Weiner. Unlike Weiner, he’s lying about something that actually affects them.

So why isn’t he being told to resign?

I don’t get it. I seriously don’t.

Because Republicans are trying to fabricate their own reality. It’s telling the truth and using facts that get you kicked out of, or no longer supported by, the GOP.

76 Idle Drifter  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:48:21pm

re: #72 sattv4u2

a penis in a mitt!?!?!

I prefer a fur glove!

(((ooopppsss,,, did I type that out loud !?!?!)))

Roast beef sandwich anyone?

77 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:49:16pm

Moody Bible Institute, feh.

78 sproingie  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:52:12pm

If I lied like this in a private profession, I would be fired in a heartbeat. There are no consequences for lying as a politician.

79 brennant  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 2:57:51pm

“I have a masterous degree… in SCIENCE!”

80 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 4:11:15pm

re: #65 wrenchwench

Ry Cooder has some Jesus songs and some car songs, but it’s hard to find them together. This one is mostly cars, but Jesus makes a cameo appearance.

[Video]

I like his fusion work with VM Bhatt, but it contains no stockcars.

81 wee fury  Thu, Jun 16, 2011 6:31:27pm

Minnesota — Loon is the state bird , , , and I wonder if those genes have mutated into the human population — OR,
if the blame should be placed on the fluoridation of the drinking water.
Possibly both.

82 wilburs  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:11:57am

I love how he was “ordained” by this fringe group, a process which evidently involves filling out a form and writing a check for 50 bucks.

The sad thing is that there are an increasing number of these nuts involved in state governments. It would be a worthwhile project for someone to research and indentify them as the first step to getting them out of government.


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