1 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 10:45:10am

New thread and I’m off to do some chores . . ;

Have a great afternoon all!

2 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 10:50:07am

Politfact Gets It Wrong On Fox

The problem with Politfact’s work on this is that they’re really comparing apples and oranges. The Pew studies measured viewers’ knowledge of certain basic matters that no one is actually suggesting Fox News misinforms its viewers on…Rather, the issues on which Fox misinforms its viewers are on matters of fact that conservatives would like not to be true. For instance, one recent study that Politfact shied away from because conservatives “criticized its methodology” is the only one that actually measures public knowledge on the issues in question. That survey found that Fox News viewers were far more likely to believe, falsely, that most scientists don’t believe climate change is happening, that there were no tax cuts in the stimulus, that income taxes have gone up, and that Obama wasn’t born in the United States.

3 iossarian  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 10:54:26am

re: #2 publicityStunted

I can see what Politifact is doing - they want to appear “impartial”, so they have to plead with the magical balance fairy to conjure up examples of sneaky liberals saying things that are not quite true. Just like news shows pull up crazy unqualified ravers to “balance” the scientists’ take on global warming.

It’s sad, because today’s GOP-supporting conservatives don’t give a shit about Politifact anyway. They aren’t a far-right propaganda machine like FN, and any media outlet that doesn’t conform to this hyper-partisan view of things is “the enemy”.

So, kind of a waste of time and resources.

4 wvng  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 11:00:00am

re: #3 iossarian

Sort of true, but not quite. Their base doesn’t care about anything “the enemy” says, except when “the enemy” says something that is politically useful to them. It is useful for them to be able to say that Stewart was wrong and even those liberal fact checkers agree.

5 iossarian  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 11:00:23am

re: #4 wvng

Sort of true, but not quite. Their base doesn’t care about anything “the enemy” says, except when “the enemy” says something that is politically useful to them. It is useful for them to be able to say that Stewart was wrong and even those liberal fact checkers agree.

Very true, and hence doubly sad.

6 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 11:01:49am

This opinion Piece on Al-Jazeera is both sensible and appeals to the emotional side.

Arab Spring exposes Nasrallah’s hypocrisy

And then Syria happened, and Hasan Nasrallah began stuttering. “First, we should be committed to Syria’s stability, security and safety.” Syrians’ security and safety - or Bashar al-Assad’s? Scores of Syrians are being gunned down, tortured, and killed. There is a massive humanitarian crisis on the Syrian-Turkish border, finally forcing Turkey to sever its ties with Syria. Syrians are fleeing their homeland en masse, fearing for their lives from Bashar al-Assad’s murderous army. What about their security and safety?

7 nines09  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 11:06:15am

After all the years of Rushs’ outright lies and half truths and Fox News’ propaganda just what would you expect. If I was any other news service I would drop this gem almost weekly.

8 windsagio  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 11:09:29am

re: #4 wvng

Kinda disagree. The Limbaugh generation (or maybe the 24 hour news generation) was entirely based on the latest outrage from the other side. That’s what keeps ‘em going.

9 allegro  Wed, Jun 22, 2011 11:21:07am

re: #7 nines09

Harper’s attempts to make lying legal on Canadian television are a stark admission that right-wing political ideology can only dominate national debate through dishonest propaganda. Since corporate profit-taking is not an attractive vessel for populism, a political party or broadcast network that makes itself the tool of corporate and financial elites must lie to make its agenda popular with the public.

Exactly.


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