1 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:34:54pm

OMG! Republicans are creating ugly dogs?

2 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:35:13pm

I'm seeing a vid for an ugly dog named Yoda.

3 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:36:37pm

Yeah, something got messed up - reload and it will be there.

4 elizajane  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:37:21pm

That dog is the Republicans' sekrit weapon against the conspiracies of academic-type scientists. Just you wait! It has super magical powers and Michele Bachmann knows everything about them.

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:39:26pm

That hair. If she turns her head too fast, it might break her neck.

I'm sorry I said anything, please bring back Ugly Yoda.

6 Kragar  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:47:56pm

Some theories are not worthy of debate. Creationism is one of them.

7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:48:50pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some theories are not worthy of debate. Creationism is one of them.

It doesn't even rank as a hypothesis.

8 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:49:51pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

It doesn't even rank as a hypothesis.

It's the hair on a hypothesis' ass.

9 Lidane  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:52:07pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some theories are not worthy of debate. Creationism is one of them.

That's because it's not a theory. It's a fairy tale.

We don't take Aesop's fables or Mother Goose seriously as science. Why should Creationism be any different? Besides, if your faith is so weak that the truth of evolution makes it collapse like a house of cards, maybe that should be a red flag that you need to re-examine your beliefs.

10 freetoken  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:53:54pm

And the GOP has plenty of helpers in this regard too...

PJM continues their descent into Bratfart/WND level of muck:

Pajamas Media Sues Pentagon for Details on Travel to Copenhagen "Climate Change Conference"

The USAF has been providing air lift for politicians and their entourages for a while now, but PJM must think they'll discover some notorious globalist plot underneath this, or something.

11 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:53:58pm

More news coming out of Libya (finally) not enough to justify a page

-Possible heavy fighting in Gharyan
-ICC arrest warrants for Qaddafi, his son, and an intelligence official
-3 ministers may be negotiating for something in Tunisia

What day do you want to have the celebrations of liberation to occur? (Like our Independence Day.)

12 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:54:25pm

A few moments ago I had an add for Lady Gaga appear on a video for Ozzie Osbourne.

That just ain't right!

13 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:54:41pm

conservatives are the death of this country

14 Kragar  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:55:16pm

Securing resources in the event of natural disaster is part of national security. I don't see an issue.

15 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:55:54pm

I highly recommend this Documentary I watched from Netflix:

Flock Of Dodo's

and while you are at it (for those so inclined)

One Nation Under God

The God Who Wasn't There.

And Religulous (just watched it yesterday).

16 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:55:59pm

re: #13 SpaceJesus

conservatives are the death of this country

Far right religious reactionaries, sure. Conservatives, not so much. I think there's only three of us left, anyway.

17 Kragar  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:56:19pm

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Securing resources in the event of natural disaster is part of national security. I don't see an issue.

Meant this is a reply to 10

18 Lidane  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:57:27pm

re: #10 freetoken

LOL Pajamas Media. That's just pathetic.

19 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:57:49pm

re: #13 SpaceJesus

conservatives are the death of this country

I'll send flowers, and give it a good Irish wake

20 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:58:28pm

re: #10 freetoken

And the GOP has plenty of helpers in this regard too...

PJM continues their descent into Bratfart/WND level of muck:

Pajamas Media Sues Pentagon for Details on Travel to Copenhagen "Climate Change Conference"

The USAF has been providing air lift for politicians and their entourages for a while now, but PJM must think they'll discover some notorious globalist plot underneath this, or something.

One World Government through pretend Climate Change!

What a brilliant idea.

It must have come from the Zeno led aliens helping the UN fake global warming.

My root Chakra is on fire.

21 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:59:09pm

re: #13 SpaceJesus

conservatives are the death of this country

They seem to be getting a lot of practice at it.

22 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:59:19pm

re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth

Far right religious reactionaries, sure. Conservatives, not so much. I think there's only three of us left, anyway.

the TP's and the GOP are hardly conservative...the notion is ridiculous, blame the theocrats, the people who deserve the scorn

23 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:00:47pm

re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth

Far right religious reactionaries, sure. Conservatives, not so much. I think there's only three of us left, anyway.

Nice to have you all here.

What will you have to drink, Tequila or Kool-aid?

Mwwaahhaaa!!

24 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:02:01pm

re: #23 b_sharp

Nice to have you all here.

What will you have to drink, Tequila or Kool-aid?

Mwwaahhaaa!!

vodka and pickle juice for me...gonna be a long, hot summer

25 Kragar  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:04:02pm

re: #22 albusteve

the TP's and the GOP are hardly conservative...the notion is ridiculous, blame the theocrats, the people who deserve the scorn

The modern GOP would call Thomas Aquinas a liberal:

- Because of the diverse conditions of humans, it happens that some acts are virtuous to some people, as appropriate and suitable to them, while the same acts are immoral for others, as inappropriate to them.

- Beware of the person of one book.

- By nature all men are equal in liberty, but not in other endowments.

- Man should not consider his material possession his own, but as common to all, so as to share them without hesitation when others are in need.

- The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:04:25pm

re: #22 albusteve

the TP's and the GOP are hardly conservative...the notion is ridiculous, blame the theocrats, the people who deserve the scorn

If I can point to some pernicious group like ANSWER and say "They're definitely left-wing, but certainly not liberal", I don't think it should be that hard for others to be able to see the distinction between right-wing and conservative.

But perhaps I overestimate people's cognitive abilities.

27 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:05:06pm

re: #23 b_sharp

Can I pick "coffee"?

28 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:06:27pm

If this is tea, please bring me coffee. If this is coffee, please bring me tea.

- A Lincoln

29 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:07:15pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

Can I pick "coffee"?

But I put all the LSD into the Kool-aid!

30 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:07:59pm

Americans, with their insatiable appetite for media drama, gore, friction and artificial warm fuzzies, have allowed politics to combine with their fantasy lives to form a sort of pop politics...corrosive, deceitful talking unreality heads rule their lives...reality to them is Darth Vader vs John Wayne...it is so bizarre that to take anyone even remotely connected to this new industry needs their head examined...and in the end, it's B rate at best and a rip off to have to pay for the elected result...but it's what people want

31 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:08:15pm

Speaking of science, Los Alamos is being evacuated. The folks are having flashbacks.

#NMFire on Twitter.

32 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:09:51pm

It isn't that they shun science so much as that they use willing disbelief to dismiss it for disagreeing with their narrow understanding of a particular religious text. ;)

/*removes extra fine hairsplitting magnification goggles*

33 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:11:28pm

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The modern GOP would call Thomas Aquinas a liberal:


JC, himself would be considered a Soros operative.

34 Summer Seale  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:14:37pm

re: #15 Dreggas

I highly recommend this Documentary I watched from Netflix:

Flock Of Dodo's

and while you are at it (for those so inclined)

One Nation Under God

The God Who Wasn't There.

And Religulous (just watched it yesterday).

I hate the fact sometimes that I live in France and Netflix does not work here at all. =(

In other news, I can tell you that a lot of my French friends think I'm joking when I tell them that 40% of Americans claim to deny Evolution, Global Warming, etc.... they think it can't possibly be true that there are that many idiotic Americans and it's embarrassing to have to tell them that yes...it's actually true.

The only religious mania here tends to be on the Islamist side as most Western Europeans have given up religious zeal a while back.

I do kind of secretly root for the nomination of Bachmann though, I admit. I really think that there's no way she will get elected President. But then, I am reminded of the story of Ronald Reagan where the liberal newscaster was shocked and said that nobody that he knew could have ever voted for Reagan. Perhaps she might win and that scares me more than anything. Or, perhaps, Sarah Palin....that might scare me even a tad more...though I'm not sure. After all, they're both two of the biggest fuckin' idiots and liars the political system has ever created on the right.

I'd sooner vote for Richard Nixon for President, but I know that these days the right wing would declare him a RINO and never nominate him anyway.

35 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:14:47pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

If I can point to some pernicious group like ANSWER and say "They're definitely left-wing, but certainly not liberal", I don't think it should be that hard for others to be able to see the distinction between right-wing and conservative.

But perhaps I overestimate people's cognitive abilities.

Substitute SoCon/Social conservative for Rightwing next time, more people will grasp the difference. Admittedly the "conservative" field is getting crowded now with SoCons, ConCons, and FisCons all competing for the Con suffix...

36 iossarian  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:15:59pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

JC, himself would be considered a Soros operative.

OMG JC, how can you be both Jewish and anti-Pharisee?

37 Political Atheist  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:17:30pm

re: #35 ausador

Substitute SoCon/Social conservative for Rightwing next time, more people will grasp the difference. Admittedly the "conservative" field is getting crowded now with SoCons, ConCons, and FisCons all competing for the Con suffix...

What is a ConCon?

38 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:17:41pm

Predictably, the wingnuts stretch reality to match their derping candidates....
John Wayne's Waterloo connection

Michele Bachmann misstated Iowa (and Hollywood) history when she said John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa, but she may have been thinking of Wayne's parents, who had at least a brief connection to the town.
...
That doesn't change the fact that Wayne's birthplace was in Winterset, but it does take some of the air out of the more comical explanation for Bachmann's gaffe: that she was thinking of Waterloo native and serial killer John Wayne Gacy when she made the comment. We report; you decide.

39 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:18:23pm

re: #35 ausador

Substitute SoCon/Social conservative for Rightwing next time, more people will grasp the difference. Admittedly the "conservative" field is getting crowded now with SoCons, ConCons, and FisCons all competing for the Con suffix...



connedpast participle, past tense of con (Verb)past participle, past tense of conn (Verb)
1. Persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
2. Direct the steering of (a ship): "he conned a Boston whaler". More »
Merriam-Webster - The Free Dictionary

sums it up nicely

40 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:19:00pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

What is a ConCon?

a dance where you flash your skivvies

41 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:20:12pm

re: #40 albusteve

a dance where you flash your skivvies

Image: CanCanDancePA_650x452.jpg

42 iossarian  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:20:36pm

re: #41 wrenchwench

Image: CanCanDancePA_650x452.jpg

Yikes.

43 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:20:53pm

re: #36 iossarian

OMG JC, how can you be both Jewish and anti-Pharisee?

By being a Sadducee, of course.

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:21:25pm

re: #36 iossarian

OMG JC, how can you be both Jewish and anti-Pharisee?

Jesus was a left-wing Pharisee.

45 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:22:04pm

re: #41 wrenchwench

Image: CanCanDancePA_650x452.jpg

lotta yams in that pic

46 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:23:35pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus was a left-wing Pharisee.

he was also the quarterback for the Jerusalem Apostles...losers, but they had soul

47 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:25:14pm

The #NMFire Twitter tag has now become useless, filled with, "Oh, no! R thoughts R with U" stuff. Here's info about the Los Alamos evacuation.

48 BongCrodny  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:25:26pm

re: #44 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus was a left-wing Pharisee.


Jesus was a Capricorn.

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:25:38pm

SCIENCE!
-Magnus Pyke

50 wrenchwench  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:25:51pm

re: #46 albusteve

he was also the quarterback for the Jerusalem Apostles...losers, but they had soul

And a hell of a Hail Mary pass.

51 albusteve  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:26:19pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

And a hell of a Hail Mary pass.

LOL!
excellent

52 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:30:14pm

re: #41 wrenchwench

Image: CanCanDancePA_650x452.jpg

I like the one in the middle. She has the nicest bum.

53 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:34:37pm

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

What is a ConCon?

Constitutional Conservative, another "literal interpretation" breed who share a lot in common with the SoCons but are more interested with preserving the Constitution as they understand it than promoting religious mores.

54 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:35:58pm

re: #53 ausador

Constitutional Conservative, another "literal interpretation" breed who share a lot in common with the SoCons but are more interested with preserving the Constitution as they understand it than promoting religious mores.

Quite a few of the TeaParty members at least claim to be ConCons...

55 iossarian  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:36:23pm

re: #53 ausador

Constitutional Conservative, another "literal interpretation" breed who share a lot in common with the SoCons but are more interested with preserving the Constitution as they understand it than promoting religious mores.

Slavery and no voting rights for women?

56 BongCrodny  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:40:17pm

re: #53 ausador

Constitutional Conservative, another "literal interpretation" breed who share a lot in common with the SoCons but are more interested with preserving the Constitution as they understand it than promoting religious mores.


If you start out at Point X and make two right turns, aren't you going backwards?

57 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:40:36pm

re: #55 iossarian

Slavery and no voting rights for women?

Something like that, at least for some of them.

58 Political Atheist  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:41:16pm

re: #53 ausador

Thanks! I can hardly keep up.

59 b_sharp  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:41:25pm

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SCIENCE!
-Magnus Pyke

I am the nerd of science and I bring you:
Science, I'll make you to learn.
Science, I'll take you to learn.
I'll see you learn!
You fought hard and you saved and learned,
but none of it's going to burn.
And your mind, your tiny mind,
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind.
You're falling far too far behind.
Oh no, oh no, oh no, you gonna learn!
Science, to destroy all you've done.
Science, to end all you've become.
I'll feel you learn!
You've been living like a little churl,
in the middle of your little world.
And your mind, your tiny mind,
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time churn your mind,
you're falling far too far behind.

60 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 1:41:38pm

re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth


eh, same thing

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 2:13:52pm

re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist

By being a Sadducee, of course.

Is that like Father Guido Sadducee? I thought he was Catholic?!?

62 SidewaysQuark  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 2:36:37pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some theories are not worthy of debate. Creationism is one of them.

Creationism was worthy of debate, two or three hundred years ago, like phlogiston, alchemy, the four humours and Bode's Law. Some people can't just let go of the past.

63 FreedomMoon  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 2:42:35pm

Is this Ronald Reagan's son? I prefer Chris Matthew's antics; he's much more captivating and interesting. This guy kinda puts you to sleep like a boring college professor.
With that said, they're right on the money. It would be an extremely frightening situation if Bachmann were to win the presidency. I'm talking irreparable damage beyond anything anyone has ever imagined.

64 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 3:31:11pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

The #NMFire Twitter tag has now become useless, filled with, "Oh, no! R thoughts R with U" stuff. Here's info about the Los Alamos evacuation.

Yes, it's not looking good at all for that area. Hope there aren't any LGF readers in danger.

65 hugh59  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 7:22:29pm

Why do you say "Republicans shun science?" This person does not speak for me. He does not speak for most Republicans. I could find a loopy Democrat and attribute that person's comments to all Democrats. I don't come here regularly because I see comments that are more interested in insulting conservatives and Republicans instead of trying to understand them.

I work for the government. I see how messed up things are from the inside. I see government taking on more and more responsibility, but doing a terrible job. I see senior civil servants who treat their jobs as sinecures. I am frustrated because no one seems to care. Democrats want government to do even more. Republicans promise to cut the size of government while running for office, but once they get in all they do is slow (ever so slightly) the rate of growth.

66 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 9:21:58pm

re: #65 hugh59

Why do you say "Republicans shun science?" This person does not speak for me. He does not speak for most Republicans. I could find a loopy Democrat and attribute that person's comments to all Democrats. I don't come here regularly because I see comments that are more interested in insulting conservatives and Republicans instead of trying to understand them.

I work for the government. I see how messed up things are from the inside. I see government taking on more and more responsibility, but doing a terrible job. I see senior civil servants who treat their jobs as sinecures. I am frustrated because no one seems to care. Democrats want government to do even more. Republicans promise to cut the size of government while running for office, but once they get in all they do is slow (ever so slightly) the rate of growth.

The person whose statements are being considered is a she, Michelle Bachmann, and she is the front-runner in the Iowa primary. Find me a Democrat with comparably loopy ideas who is anywhere near the real center of power, let alone a serious contender for the presidential nomination. As Mr. Shrum says, this truly is Flat Earth ideology and it is coming from someone who clearly represents a considerable body of Republican opinion. Which GOP presidential candidates, for example, have openly declared their support for the theory of evolution?

67 laZardo  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 9:25:37pm

Ahem.

Belief in God does not preclude belief in evolution.
Belief in evolution does not preclude belief in God.
Do not trust those who insist otherwise.

68 Kragar  Mon, Jun 27, 2011 9:27:43pm

re: #65 hugh59

Republicans promise to cut the size of government while running for office, but once they get in all they do is slow (ever so slightly) the rate of growth.

Actually, they promise to cut the size of government, then ignore that to push their social agenda, but thanks for playing.

69 lostlakehiker  Tue, Jun 28, 2011 12:28:52am

re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Securing resources in the event of natural disaster is part of national security. I don't see an issue.

From the denialist camp, the issue looks like the Pentagon flying lawmakers to a conference where flying saucer enthusiasts put forward "independence day" plot-line schemes to defend the nation from alien invasion.

And even if, being smarter than rocks, they know deep down that this is different and that the people concerned think they have real reason to worry, they need to play to their base.

The base is sharper than sandstone but not as sharp as quartz. It sees the analogy as perfectly apt. But then again, don't we need some sort of plans for alien invasion?

Put in a more serious way, they must attack any action that implicitly grants standing to the mainstream scientific view of the likely consequences of running atmospheric CO2 content up to double or triple where it is now. If a steady drip-drip of news items goes across the TV screen, each taking AGW for granted just like common speech takes it for granted that the earth is round, then by and by, the public will accept it.

70 lostlakehiker  Tue, Jun 28, 2011 12:36:31am

re: #55 iossarian

Slavery and no voting rights for women?

Now that's not fair. The constitution that conservatives support is not the original constitution, but the current one. As amended.

The "founding fathers" recognized that from time to time the document they cobbled together would have to be patched. They knew they were mortals and that their work would inevitably be flawed. They knew, for that matter, what some of the flaws were. But they papered them over because a civil war at the time would have spelled the instant end of the nation.

They knew, too, that sooner or later their constitution would find itself out of step with history. They had seen explosive growth in territory and population over their own lifetimes. They had seen enough in the way of invention to realize that much more would be in the pipeline. They knew, that is, that the future would not be same song next verse, but a genuinely different place.

Conservatives aren't against course corrections. We just want them considered carefully. Wild enthusiasms, e.g. the French Revolution, the Soviet Revolution, and Whole Word English instruction, strike us as likely to backfire.

71 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Jun 28, 2011 4:21:29am

re: #35 ausador

Admittedly the "conservative" field is getting crowded now with SoCons, ConCons, and FisCons all competing for the Con suffix...

Or, desperate to distance themselves from it with prefix/stars-upon-thars type disclaimers.

72 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Jun 28, 2011 4:24:34am

re: #70 lostlakehiker

Now that's not fair.

Of course it's fair. It's a historical fact.

As for amendments, last I checked, nobody but conservatives want the 14th Amendment gutted clarified, and the 16th and 17th axed.


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