Katrina and the Waves Tell Michele Bachmann to Knock It Off

Musicians not digging the Bachmann vibe
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Katrina Leskanich, former lead singer of Katrina & The Waves, has issued a statement objecting to GOP presidential loon Michele Bachmann’s use of their music: Katrina and the Waves Join Tom Petty’s Fight Against Michele Bachmann.

Katrina & The Waves – whose 1985 song “Walking On Sunshine” was played by Michele Bachmann at a South Carolina campaign rally on Tuesday – have issued a statement on their website:

Katrina & The Waves would like it to be known that they do not endorse the use of ‘Walking On Sunshine’ by Michele Bachmann and have instructed their lawyers accordingly. …

Rolling Stone has received a statement from Katrina Leskanich, former lead singer of Katrina & The Waves:

As the singer of ‘Walking on Sunshine’ I don’t endorse its use by Michele Bachmann’s presidential campaign. I’ve performed ‘Walking on Sunshine’ for so many years in so many different countries that it’s become the one constant in my life and the one thing I can count on to bring happiness to myself and others. The song is used in commercials and movies as a vehicle for a feel good moment or empowerment but if I disagree with the policies, opinions or platforms for its use, I’ve no choice but to try and defend the song and prevent its misuse. Music can be both powerful and moving and sometimes even a little dangerous.

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421 comments
1 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:02:02pm

Stupid liberal musicians and their communist copyrights.
///

2 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:02:59pm

Bachmann needs to go with someone slower with the lawyers.
Maybe John Philip Sousa.

3 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:02:59pm

I actually heard and evil NPR story on Katrina Leskanich, she's a fucking smart powerful woman.

Yeah!

4 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:03:19pm

Is it really so hard to ask musicians for permission before playing their music at a campaign rally?

5 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:04:54pm

Bachmann needs music more fitting for her candidacy...

Youtube Video
6 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:06:54pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do you listen to Rome? lol

7 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:08:02pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Do you listen to Rome? lol

The HBO series?

8 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:09:39pm

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ha ha. Jim. (I'm a clone) He plays that song brilliantly imo.

9 palomino  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:10:18pm

Bachmann needs to pick a song by someone dead...or Ted Nugent (not that there's much difference).

10 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:11:03pm

re: #9 palomino

Bachmann needs to pick a song by someone dead...or Ted Nugent (not that there's much difference).

How about this?

Youtube Video
11 darthstar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:11:05pm

Uh-oh...Michele Bachmann's in trouble, as some girl who barely got her GED to get through high school because her mom was governor just accused Bachmann of dressing like her mom.

Obviously...the glasses, the neckline, the star of David...

Image: 1309285340752.jpg

12 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:12:00pm

re: #9 palomino

David Bowie-Life On Mars

13 dragonfire1981  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:12:00pm

She should start using this song maybe...

Youtube Video
14 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:13:10pm

Wow... at this point the only thing Bachmann will be able to have play at her political events will be the sounds of silence....


Wait... what's that? Some guy named Garfunkle on line two?

15 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:13:30pm

re: #11 darthstar

Uh-oh...Michele Bachmann's in trouble, as some girl who barely got her GED to get through high school because her mom was governor just accused Bachmann of dressing like her mom.

Obviously...the glasses, the neckline, the star of David...

Image: 1309285340752.jpg

When Bachmann smiles like that, it means the mandible is about to detach and the second mouth snap out and take out an impertinent journalist.

16 darthstar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:14:01pm

Maybe this song would be best for Bachmann...definitely for America if she wins...

Youtube Video
17 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:14:17pm

Well, this is just silly. Dems pay royalties and get permission. How tough is it?

Oh, wait. The R's object to the AFM and all other unions.

Never mind!

(Full disclosure: She Who Must Be Obeyed has been a member of Local 433 of the AFM for over 25 years. It's kind of fun to see her name three below Willie Nelson's on the members list.)

18 darthstar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:14:39pm

re: #15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

When Bachmann smiles like that, it means the mandible is about to detach and the second mouth snap out and take out an impertinent journalist.

The alien in Alien was just a loving mother (by comparison)

19 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:14:48pm

re: #16 darthstar

Maybe this song would be best for Bachmann...definitely for America if she wins...

[Video]

Or this...

Youtube Video
20 palomino  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:15:24pm

re: #10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How about this?

[Video]

It certainly fits. I know some Republicans are hungry for a real evangelical far right conservative from the heartland, and she fits the bill. I used to think she was as crazy as--but smarter than--Palin. Based on her statements over the last few days, I've reassessed my estimate of her brains.

21 drpangloss  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:15:32pm

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

22 elizajane  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:15:57pm

If Bachmann wins, I'm going for the Ramones: I Wanna Be Sedated.

23 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:16:53pm

Not that it's specifically apt for Bachmann, but I just really want to persuade a pol to use this for their campaigning:

Youtube Video

For Bachmann specifically:

Youtube Video

...because that's sure as hey what's going through my head every time she lays out her belief system.

24 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:17:31pm

re: #21 drpangloss

More panglossy nuggets, please!

25 recusancy  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:18:14pm

re: #22 elizajane

If Bachmann wins, I'm going for the Ramones: I Wanna Be Sedated.

The Ramones are conservatives

26 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:18:27pm

re: #21 drpangloss

maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

I think the Tea Party has that reserved after their "Jobs jobs jobs" turned into ramming down thru their social agenda.

27 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:18:44pm

Image: sleeper.jpg

28 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:18:47pm

re: #22 elizajane

If Bachmann wins, I'm going for the Ramones: I Wanna Be Sedated.

If Bachmann is the R's Prez candidate, I'm going to be singing Cohen's "Hallelujah".

She is just as glazed as an outhouse mouse.

"Have you been hypnotized?"

29 palomino  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:18:53pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

Maybe you could expound on how we've strayed from what you see as American values. As for optimism, if it's backed up by nothing but religious fervor, it's mere delusion.

30 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:19:39pm

re: #27 Charles

Image: sleeper.jpg

Class of 2004

31 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:20:03pm

re: #30 HoosierHoops

Class of 2004

Fuckers...

32 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:20:13pm

re: #9 palomino

Bachmann needs to pick a song by someone dead...or Ted Nugent (not that there's much difference).

Elvis

Youtube Video
33 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:20:29pm

re: #12 jaunte

David Bowie-Life On Mars

LOL!

It's a gawd awful small affair
to the girl with the mousy hair

34 palomino  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:20:57pm

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think the Tea Party has that reserved after their "Jobs jobs jobs" turned into ramming down thru their social agenda.

Seriously, what is the gop jobs plan other than cutting taxes and more de-regulation?

35 darthstar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:20:57pm

re: #23 The Ghost of a Flea

Rammstein just played in Oakland recently....one of my employees went to the show...said it was pyrotechnic porn and he loved it...then I was watching that crappy movie "XXX" the other day, and noticed the heavy metal band had flames coming out of their heads in the opening sequence...it was Rammstein.

36 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:21:52pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

Wait, seriously?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

37 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:22:04pm

re: #12 jaunte

David Bowie-Life On Mars

Loves it.

38 freetoken  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:22:18pm

Rather than using all those near-contemporary hits without permission, the Bachmann campaign should just pay for rights to use this:

MP3 Audio
39 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:22:37pm

re: #34 palomino

Seriously, what is the gop jobs plan other than cutting taxes and more de-regulation?

More kids means more social security will end up paying for itself, and by decreasing healthcare coverage, most of them won't live to collect it. Its a win win scenario all the way around!

40 recusancy  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:22:56pm

re: #31 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fuckers...

Jihad obsessed non the less.

41 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:23:11pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Loves it.

sailors fighting in the dance hall
oh man, look at those cave men go
it's the freakish show

42 recusancy  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:23:41pm

re: #25 recusancy

The Ramones are conservatives

Oh scratch that. Just Johnny was.

43 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:23:43pm

I was thinking the Battle Hymn of the Republic was more Bachman's style.

44 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:23:50pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

Downdinged for weak trolling. Seriously, put some effort into it.

"Won't Get Fooled Again." Pfft.

A decent troll would have gone straight for "Antichrist Superstar" at very least. Clearly you need to adjust the corn cob and try again.

45 elizajane  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:24:08pm

For a good laugh, check out this article at Forbes:
"Birthers Sue Esquire over Parody, Seeking More than $2 Million" --

including a heated expostulation from Joseph Farrah himself in the comments section, claiming that he's being misrepresented, has every right to sue, and that the American public still wants to know where Obama was really born. It's a hoot (and unlike the original article, it's not a joke).

[Link: blogs.forbes.com...]

46 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:24:17pm

re: #35 darthstar

Rammstein just played in Oakland recently...one of my employees went to the show...said it was pyrotechnic porn and he loved it...then I was watching that crappy movie "XXX" the other day, and noticed the heavy metal band had flames coming out of their heads in the opening sequence...it was Rammstein.

"Feuer Frei"

Youtube Video
47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:24:18pm

re: #21 drpangloss

Well. That helped.

48 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:24:47pm

I think Matt Taibbi got to the truth of the Bachmann campaign in his last piece:

Michele Bachmann has found the flaw in the American Death Star. She is a television camera's dream, a threat to do or say something insane at any time, the ultimate reality-show protagonist. She has brilliantly piloted a media system that is incapable of averting its eyes from a story, riding that attention to an easy conquest of an overeducated cultural elite from both parties that is far too full of itself to understand the price of its contemptuous laughter. All of those people out there aren't voting for Michele Bachmann. They're voting against us. And to them, it turns out, we suck enough to make anyone a contender.[Link: www.rollingstone.com...]
49 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:25:02pm

re: #18 darthstar

The alien in Alien was just a loving mother (by comparison)

Like Grendl's mom. But not Angelina Jolie:

[Link: wallswallsmorewalls.blogspot.com...]

50 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:25:55pm

Maybe Michelle can get permission from Bad Company to use their music...

Youtube Video
51 elizajane  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:27:15pm

re: #25 recusancy

The Ramones are conservatives

That would explain Rock 'n Roll High School:
"I don't care about history,
That's not where I wanna be."

52 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:27:58pm

Life on Mars - The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain

Youtube Video
53 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:29:00pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

That's pretty good! lol

54 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:29:23pm

re: #35 darthstar

Rammstein just played in Oakland recently...one of my employees went to the show...said it was pyrotechnic porn and he loved it...then I was watching that crappy movie "XXX" the other day, and noticed the heavy metal band had flames coming out of their heads in the opening sequence...it was Rammstein.

Saw them live in 2001 (or was it 02?). They were crazy into pyro then, too.

55 What, me worry?  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:29:35pm

It's needs drums and a bass :( but other than that!

56 albusteve  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:30:11pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Life on Mars - The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain

[Video]

ha!...what a bunch a nerds...
I love it

57 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:31:29pm

re: #21 drpangloss

return to American values.

/eyeroll

Which are what, exactly.

58 palomino  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:31:51pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

More kids means more social security will end up paying for itself, and by decreasing healthcare coverage, most of them won't live to collect it. Its a win win scenario all the way around!


Yeah, the gop's got nothing except its now fossilized ideology of tax cuts and deregulation, neither of which has proven to be the key in growing the economy or decreasing unemployment. See the last 60 years for proof. We've had much higher taxes during periods of growth, the same with regulations.

59 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:32:44pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Double updings; I like the way they worked in Substitute.

60 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:32:56pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Life on Mars - The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain

[Video]

This isn't a bad cover, either.

Youtube Video
61 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:33:11pm

My favorite word to describe Bachmann: vacant.

62 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:33:59pm

re: #57 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

/eyeroll

Which are what, exactly.

Peace, Love and Mickey Mouse.

63 AnalyticalReview  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:35:45pm

translated: she is batshit crazy and I want nothing of mine to be associated with her. In fact the the computer they downloaded the music to, must be broken into 10000 pieces, then melted in a furnace.

64 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:37:29pm

Life is looking good for me!!!!!

65 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:38:27pm

re: #57 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

/eyeroll

Which are what, exactly.

I think it involves a Bible and a paper bag.

But only the Books of John, Revelation, Daniel, and Leviticus

Except the part of Leviticus that make life inconvienient for non-gays, non-females, non-rich people; and only the bits of John and Daniel that are about fiery End Times...not the bits about kindness, charity, giving up your wealth, or any of the chesed-type stuff.

But mostly the paper bag.

66 elizajane  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:38:29pm

re: #63 AnalyticalReview

translated: she is batshit crazy and I want nothing of mine to be associated with her. In fact the the computer they downloaded the music to, must be broken into 10000 pieces, then melted in a furnace.

Excellent first comment. Stick around!

67 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:42:50pm

re: #60 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

This isn't a bad cover, either.

[Video]

I'm really impressed by Pink's version as well....

Youtube Video
68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:47:11pm

Sensible conservative folks will never listen to this woman. She has been so "ObamaistheAntichristnotanAmericanadnauseum" for so long that she could walk out present the most cogent and workable solution ever thought up and folks like me (yes, I'm a sensible conservative folk) will only hear this.

69 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:48:27pm

I think I like some of the newbs.

Speak up. Let us get to know you.

And that *doesn't* include Dr. Pangloss, of the ridiculous post #21 above, who has been here since 2004 and has 66 posts to its name. Voltaire wouldn't have been able to stop throwing up. Irony is obviously a foreign concept to you.

70 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:52:25pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm really impressed by Pink's version as well...

[Video]

I like Pink.

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:53:19pm

re: #70 ggt

She has my all time favorite Grammy Awards performance.

72 prairiefire  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:53:31pm

The Ghost Of A Flea

73 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:53:38pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm really impressed by Pink's version as well...

[Video]

I'm a traditionalist...

Youtube Video
74 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:56:03pm

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Epic.

75 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:56:35pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

Judstyon Derrico (that guitarist in the Pink video) playing around on nylon strings:

Youtube Video
76 Four More Tears  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:56:44pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Epic.

No, that's Faith No More...

77 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:56:47pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Epic.

And then we have "Ode to Joy"

Youtube Video
78 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:56:56pm

re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sensible conservative folks will never listen to this woman. She has been so "ObamaistheAntichristnotanAmericanadnauseum" for so long that she could walk out present the most cogent and workable solution ever thought up and folks like me (yes, I'm a sensible conservative folk) will only hear this.

Ah. As if "sensible" was a fitting adjective for the crop of R candidates we have at the present.

Paraphrasing "Cool Hand Luke", "What we have here is an inability to communicate a belief in science, rationality, common sense, and a basic understanding of macroeconomics."

The only hope for the R's is Huntsman, a good man with integrity, and I fear he will be painted as the new poster boy for the modern RINO, and will never win a primary. That's a guy I'd like to see debating the Prez.

79 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:56:59pm

re: #75 jaunte

Justin....

80 Kid A  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 8:58:50pm

re: #6 Stanley Sea

Do you listen to Rome? lol

Proud clone here. He reads my emails frequently; Eric in The Woodlands. He read my email about Steve Garvey on Monday. Chick Pumpingly yours, Garv.

81 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:02:10pm

Again I say, Bachmann should hook up with Buddy Davis.

Youtube Video
82 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:02:11pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

Bachmann's version of American values: Stealing, lying, and distorting history if she thinks she can get away with it.

83 laZardo  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:02:13pm

re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sensible conservative folks



My reaction to the phrase.

84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:02:44pm

re: #83 laZardo

Oh, pooh. We exist.

85 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:03:19pm

Wayne's World - Bohemian Rhapsody

Youtube Video
86 foobear2  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:03:54pm

How does licensing for playing the original version of "American Girl" or "Walking on Sunshine" at a campaign rally work, anyway?

If I understand correctly, compulsory mechanical licenses allow someone to record and distribute their own version of a previously-published song by paying a fixed royalty rate. So, for instance, if Bachmann's people had a band record "American Girl", they'd be able to play that version at their events, so long as they paid the appropriate royalty, regardless of Tom Petty's feelings on the matter.

But how do you go about licensing Tom Petty's own recording of "American Girl"? Do you go through the record company, the artist, some other clearinghouse?

87 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:05:43pm

re: #82 prononymous

Bachmann's version of American values: Stealing, lying, and distorting history if she thinks she can get away with it.

And taking as much government cash for her bank account as possible.

/howtypical

88 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:05:50pm

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And then we have "Ode to Joy"

[Video]

Dying here.

89 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:05:59pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

American values? Which American values would those be?

90 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:07:42pm

re: #86 foobear2

How does licensing for playing the original version of "American Girl" or "Walking on Sunshine" at a campaign rally work, anyway?

If I understand correctly, compulsory mechanical licenses allow someone to record and distribute their own version of a previously-published song by paying a fixed royalty rate. So, for instance, if Bachmann's people had a band record "American Girl", they'd be able to play that version at their events, so long as they paid the appropriate royalty, regardless of Tom Petty's feelings on the matter.

But how do you go about licensing Tom Petty's own recording of "American Girl"? Do you go through the record company, the artist, some other clearinghouse?

I believe they are tracked by the Artistes agents. My sister in law used to this for Jane Curtin.

91 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:07:53pm

re: #89 b_sharp

American values? Which American values would those be?

Old, flatulent rightwing ones: special rights for bigots, state-sponsored 2nd class status for everyone else.

92 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:07:58pm

re: #89 b_sharp

American values? Which American values would those be?

see my #62

93 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:08:08pm

re: #80 Kid A

Proud clone here. He reads my emails frequently; Eric in The Woodlands. He read my email about Steve Garvey on Monday. Chick Pumpingly yours, Garv.

no fucking way.

You know, I did recognize you on the Balloon Juice sweet sixteen bracket.

Wow. I will be listening closer.

94 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:08:38pm

re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

She has my all time favorite Grammy Awards performance.

which one?

95 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:09:25pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm really impressed by Pink's version as well...

[Video]

Wow, nice.

96 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:10:35pm

re: #89 b_sharp

American values? Which American values would those be?

Frontier homesteading.

Well lookie here, nobody else appears to be using this song.

97 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:10:53pm

re: #72 prairiefire

The Ghost Of A Flea

Why yes--I do happen to be a laudanum-induced-whisp-of-Dionysian-phantasmagoria-American.

You wanna make something of it?

98 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:12:45pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

no fucking way.

You know, I did recognize you on the Balloon Juice sweet sixteen bracket.

Wow. I will be listening closer.

Yah, but he lives in The Woodlands. Great public amphitheater, pretty much a gated community, but it is represented by two of the most reactionary Teabilly elected officials you will find in Texas. Fight the power!

99 Interesting Times  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:14:14pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

Why yes--I do happen to be a laudanum-induced-whisp-of-Dionysian-phantasmagoria -American.

You wanna make something of it?

Avatar suggestion? :)

100 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:15:13pm

re: #91 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Old, flatulent rightwing ones: special rights for bigots, state-sponsored 2nd class status for everyone else.

Isn't there a Phazyme for that?

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:15:39pm

re: #89 b_sharp

American values? Which American values would those be?

Buddy Davis, to the rescue!
/

Youtube Video

Ha!

102 jaunte  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:16:41pm

re: #21 drpangloss

Google derp translation torture test: English>German>Greek>Hindi>English:

What a happy song! Michele Bachmann, the right fit for a large dose injection of optimism and a return to American values. What song would fit Barak - which is kind of a downer blame everyone but themselves dug the hole so deep. Perhaps the song "get back should not be fooled"

103 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:17:09pm

BTW: I've been piling through Beethoven sonatas and quartets lately for some reason. It amazing how advanced they are.
Barenboim plays Beethoven Sonata No. 15 in D Major Op. 28 "Pastoral", 3rd and 4th Mov.

Youtube Video

Shades of Bruckner and Debussy. Even Stravinsky if you listen carefully. Amazing shit.
104 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:19:17pm

re: #100 b_sharp

Isn't there a Phazyme for that?

Some one pls finish this rimshot?: "If this condition lasts for more than 400 years, ________________________."

105 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:19:59pm

Well this is fun. Major thunderstorm with 100km winds, and now they're warning us of hail.

I'm going to strip naked, grab the shampoo and head outside for a refreshing shower.

106 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:20:30pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

"Here's the new boss. Same as the old boss".

Yeah, Bush's third term. Not so bad, actually.

107 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:20:31pm

re: #102 jaunte

Google derp translation torture test: English>German>Greek>Hindi>English:

LOL

I wish I could give that 17 updings. Lol!

108 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:21:18pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

BTW: I've been piling through Beethoven sonatas and quartets lately for some reason. It amazing how advanced they are.
Barenboim plays Beethoven Sonata No. 15 in D Major Op. 28 "Pastoral", 3rd and 4th Mov.

[Video]
Shades of Bruckner and Debussy. Even Stravinsky if you listen carefully. Amazing shit.

That's really good stuff though I find myself either listening to Bach & Haydn or else moderns like John Adams and Aaron Kernis.

Youtube Video
109 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:21:23pm

re: #104 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Some one pls finish this rimshot?: "If this condition lasts for more than 400 years, ___."

Take two shotguns, some duct tape and a rubber chicken, and call me in the mourning.

110 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:22:44pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

BTW: I've been piling through Beethoven sonatas and quartets lately for some reason. It amazing how advanced they are.
Barenboim plays Beethoven Sonata No. 15 in D Major Op. 28 "Pastoral", 3rd and 4th Mov.

[Video]
Shades of Bruckner and Debussy. Even Stravinsky if you listen carefully. Amazing shit.

amazing what could be accomplished without all the electronic help . . .

111 Kid A  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:25:14pm

re: #98 austin_blue

Brady's a douche. Not quite teabilly, but when it comes election time, he'll teabilly all he has to.

112 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:25:52pm

re: #108 wlewisiii

That's really good stuff though I find myself either listening to Bach & Haydn or else moderns like John Adams and Aaron Kernis.

[Video]

I could play Bach all day long but I Couldn't listen to it. No use for Haydn.

113 Kid A  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:27:50pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

Travis Rogers has a show now on 1560 in Houston. His departure from Rome was unexpected to say the least. Kyle Brant is funny as hell, though.

114 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:28:08pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

BTW: I've been piling through Beethoven sonatas and quartets lately for some reason. It amazing how advanced they are.
Barenboim plays Beethoven Sonata No. 15 in D Major Op. 28 "Pastoral", 3rd and 4th Mov.

[Video]
Shades of Bruckner and Debussy. Even Stravinsky if you listen carefully. Amazing shit.

Just got finished with my music festival up in Arkysaw. My recording engineer says we have at least seven pieces that are worthy to end up on NPR's Performance Today.

These guys were wicked good:

[Link: www.avalonquartet.com...]

and acted as two violin, viola and cello mentors. Killer bee players and teachers.

115 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:28:28pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

I could play Bach all day long but I Couldn't listen to it. No use for Haydn.

Interesting. I love listening to Haydn's string quartets and symphonies. Just don't ask me to tolerate Brahms.

116 danhenry1  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:30:04pm

Who was that blonde woman that was telling Ben stein to stop raising his voice on fox? She was a real cupcake. I don't always go with Stein, but he was making so much sense, more than most Economists, at least that I could understand.
His eyes looked likeche was trying to getvrid of something deep within himself as he listened quietly to this womens nonsense.

117 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:31:57pm

re: #105 b_sharp

Well this is fun. Major thunderstorm with 100km winds, and now they're warning us of hail.

I'm going to strip naked, grab the shampoo and head outside for a refreshing shower.

Dude, where are you? We'll take the 60 MPH first gust, as long as we get some fucking rain!

{yes, we are begging at this point}

118 Stanghazi  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:32:33pm

re: #113 Kid A

Yeah, Travis hasn't been mentioned for a long time. We remember.

Way back, when Rome was on at nights in San Diego, I got on air. ha

119 danhenry1  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:32:52pm

Might from the east coast.. No that's home ah cape cod... I'm someplace in Virginia... What world change, and not far far away.

120 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:33:24pm

re: #116 danhenry1

Who was that blonde woman that was telling Ben stein to stop raising his voice on fox? She was a real cupcake. I don't always go with Stein, but he was making so much sense, more than most Economists, at least that I could understand.
His eyes looked likeche was trying to getvrid of something deep within himself as he listened quietly to this womens nonsense.

After Stein's part in “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” I take anything he says with several tonnes of salt.

121 laZardo  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:33:58pm

re: #114 austin_blue

Just got finished with my music festival up in Arkysaw. My recording engineer says we have at least seven pieces that are worthy to end up on NPR's Performance Today.

These guys were wicked good:

[Link: www.avalonquartet.com...]

and acted as two violin, viola and cello mentors. Killer bee players and teachers.

I've always associated public radio with classical music. Not to politics or anything, specifically classical music. I'm not sure why.

122 danhenry1  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:34:23pm

That was g'night

123 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:34:48pm

re: #111 Kid A

Brady's a douche. Not quite teabilly, but when it comes election time, he'll teabilly all he has to.

My point, exactly. And your neighbors will re-elect him.

124 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:35:12pm

re: #117 austin_blue

Dude, where are you? We'll take the 60 MPH first gust, as long as we get some fucking rain!

{yes, we are begging at this point}

did you do a rain dance?

125 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:36:28pm

re: #117 austin_blue

Dude, where are you? We'll take the 60 MPH first gust, as long as we get some fucking rain!

{yes, we are begging at this point}

Canuckistan prairies. We are so waterlogged up here half of our roads are closed.

We went past flood of the decade, scooted around flood of the century and landed smack dab in the middle of the flood of a half millennium.

126 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:37:48pm

re: #124 ggt

did you do a rain dance?

Aboriginals up here have tried to perform several sun dances but they keep getting rained out.

127 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:43:38pm

re: #120 b_sharp

After Stein's part in “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” I take anything he says with several tonnes of salt.

He may have some significant economical acumen, but lending his name, image, and voice to such a dishonest, anti-science, anti-intellect project such as that makes him little more than a turd in my every cocktail.

I once respected that man. No more.

128 b_sharp  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:45:52pm

Well I'm going to bed. I've been told I have work to do tomorrow.

So later gators, don't do anything I'd want to do... or I'll get jealous.

129 sagehen  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:49:29pm

re: #17 austin_blue

(Full disclosure: She Who Must Be Obeyed has been a member of Local 433 of the AFM for over 25 years. It's kind of fun to see her name three below Willie Nelson's on the members list.)

Is the list alphabetical or geographic?

130 sagehen  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:52:38pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

If he's up against her in the general, I'd suggest

Youtube Video
131 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:54:47pm

re: #124 ggt

did you do a rain dance?

Doesn't help. It's a classic La Nina pattern since last fall. Type in "drought monitor" tomorrow in Google after 10:00 AM EST, Last week week, Texas was 70% in "Exceptional Drought". The affect on farming and ranching is absolutely brutal. Rivers are running dry that haven't since the "drought of record" from 1950 to '56. That was a dry spell, interrupted by two years of subnormal rainfall, that devastated the state.

The problem is that we are seeing an increased amplitude in wet/dry cycles and a decrease in the time between them. Welcome to the Greenhouse. We need an atmospheric upgrade ASAP.

132 Kid A  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:56:11pm

re: #123 austin_blue

My point, exactly. And your neighbors will re-elect him.

I remember shooting a Memorial Day event about four years ago, and Brady (not noticing my credentials) starts spouting off about Pelosi and what not. His remarks were so programmed for his audience. Go figure.

133 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:56:51pm

re: #129 sagehen

Is the list alphabetical or geographic?

Alphabetical and limited to the geographical extent of the Local, ie: the Austin metroplex.

134 Kid A  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:57:10pm

re: #118 Stanley Sea

Yeah, Travis hasn't been mentioned for a long time. We remember.

Way back, when Rome was on at nights in San Diego, I got on air. ha

The nifty 650? Rome's story about whats-his-name from Bad Religion back in the day is still hilarious.

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:57:52pm

re: #130 sagehen

OUCH!

Plus... (ladies, forgive me) One Hundred Problems.

Also, a rather odd type of cover worthy on note.

Youtube Video
136 Kid A  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 9:58:38pm

re: #118 Stanley Sea

Yeah, Travis hasn't been mentioned for a long time. We remember.

Way back, when Rome was on at nights in San Diego, I got on air. ha

Keep calling weaklings!

137 Kid A  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:03:36pm

Oh good grief, Drunken Pam. How many shots of call vodka did it take to post this nonsense?

Your text to link...

138 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:04:22pm

How bad is the movie I'm now watching? Let me put it this way, Scatman Crothers is playing a karate teacher.

139 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:05:38pm

re: #138 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How bad is the movie I'm now watching? Let me put it this way, Scatman Crothers is playing a karate teacher.

The Shining Karate Kid?

140 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:06:24pm

re: #139 Slumbering Behemoth

The Shining Karate Kid?

Black Belt Jones.

141 sagehen  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:08:05pm

David Frum has
an idea:

Beyond that why isn’t he yelling his head off about the Republican default threat? Why isn’t he being specific about what it could mean? And why isn’t he doing what Lyndon Johnson would do – making it clear that if H-Hour does arrive, he’ll use disbursement power just as politically as Republicans are using the power of the debt ceiling: eg, paying Medicaid bills from Blue states first, Red states later? Paying farmers and other Republican constituencies with IOUs, while hoarding cash for Democratic voters?

Works for me.

142 freetoken  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:08:27pm

re: #131 austin_blue

According to the seasonal outlook, released only two weeks ago:
[Link: www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov...]
parts of TX are supposed to improve as the summer goes on.

143 freetoken  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:09:38pm

re: #141 sagehen

There is some talk about playing the 14th Amendment card. I don't know if Obama would do it or not, but it certainly would make for interesting times at the USSC.

144 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:12:09pm

re: #131 austin_blue

Doesn't help. It's a classic La Nina pattern since last fall. Type in "drought monitor" tomorrow in Google after 10:00 AM EST, Last week week, Texas was 70% in "Exceptional Drought". The affect on farming and ranching is absolutely brutal. Rivers are running dry that haven't since the "drought of record" from 1950 to '56. That was a dry spell, interrupted by two years of subnormal rainfall, that devastated the state.

The problem is that we are seeing an increased amplitude in wet/dry cycles and a decrease in the time between them. Welcome to the Greenhouse. We need an atmospheric upgrade ASAP.

I am so sorry.

I don't know who to call for that.

145 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:12:51pm

re: #140 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yarrr! I be watching Nova Science Now.

The Man.

146 freetoken  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:16:42pm

Not sure I like Google's new look.

147 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:16:46pm

re: #145 Slumbering Behemoth

Yarrr! I be watching Nova Science Now.

The Man.

Youtube Video
148 ElCapitanAmerica  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:22:45pm

Interesting article on Slate related to this issue;

Rebel Without a Clue
Tom Petty wants Michele Bachmann to quit using his song. Can he make her?
[Link: www.slate.com...]

149 freetoken  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:22:52pm

Iowa's theocratic GOP kingmaker threatens non-adhering Republicans:


Vander Plaats threatens GOP primaries over abortion; misinforms on controversial funding


During a radio interview this morning, Bob Vander Plaats, head of the religious conservative organization The Family Leader, issued a warning to Republican lawmakers who aren’t willing to hold up state budget negotiations in order to strip Medicaid funding for certain abortions. He did so while attempting to imply that such existing Medicaid funding is somehow new.

“I think you will definitely see some primaries come out of this,” Vander Plaats told host Jan Mickelsen on Des Moines WHO radio Wednesday morning.

In discussing his personal convictions against access to abortion services by any woman and for any reason, Vander Plaats implied that funding for this particular Medicaid provision is a new addition or a new proposal by certain lawmakers. That is not the case.

House Republicans have threatened to hold up ongoing budget negotiations, which many hoped were nearing completion, to strip certain Medicaid funding that allows low-income pregnant women access to abortion services. The provisions, which have been a part of Iowa’s Health and Human Services budget for more than three decades, allow Medicaid to pay for wanted abortions in cases of life and health of the mother, rape, incest and certain congenital anomalies and neural tube defects.

[...]

150 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:24:12pm

re: #115 wlewisiii

Interesting. I love listening to Haydn's string quartets and symphonies. Just don't ask me to tolerate Brahms.

Keep in mind that Haydn, Bach, Vivaldi, even Mozart in many cases, were writing the pop music of their day- chamber music for their patrons. Typical chamber orchestras had 4 first and second fiddles, 4 viols and celli, 2 basses, 2 each of flutes, clarinets, oboes, and basoons, maybe a couple of horns and one percussionist. Many of these pieces featured a soloist as a concerto player.

These pieces cannot be appreciated in recordings, They need to be be heard in small spaces, live, to understand the mileau in which they were composed.

151 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:26:44pm

re: #144 ggt

I am so sorry.

I don't know who to call for that.

Ghostbusters!

152 ProMayaLiberal  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:27:46pm

Off topic, but I have found some interesting things about the Drone Attacks in Pakistan: First is the recent news:

The Pakistan media reports Defence Minister Ahmed Mukhtar as claiming that the United States will no longer be able to use the Shamsi base to launch drone attacks on militants.

And here is the somewhat surprising results of research done in Waziristan about the view of the drone attacks:

Between November 2008 and January 2009 Pakistani Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy conducted a survey of the public opinion about the drone strikes in Federally Administered Tribal Areas. 5 teams of 5 researchers each interviewed a total of 550 people from all walks of life. Most people thought that the drone attacks were accurate and did not lead to anti-American sentiment and were effective in damaging the militants.

Based on the responses the researchers concluded 'The popular notion outside the Pakhtun belt that a large majority of the local population supports the Taliban movement lacks substance'. Most people thought that the drone attacks were accurate and did not lead to anti-American sentiment and were effective in damaging the militants. In addition the locals wanted the Pakistani forces to also target the militants. According to Farhat Taj a member of AIRRA the drones have never killed any civilians. Some people in Waziristan compare the drones to Ababils , the holy swallows sent by God to avenge Abraha, the invader of the Khana Kaaba.

In an analysis published in Daily Times (Pakistan) on 2 January 2010 Farhat Taj, a research fellow at the Centre for Interdisciplinary Gender Research, University of Oslo and a member of Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy discussed the issue of drone attacks with hundreds of people of Waziristan. She claims that they see the US drone attacks as their liberators from the clutches of Islamist militiants into which, they say, their state has wilfully thrown them. She claims that estimates about civilian casualties in the US and Pakistani media are wrong because after every attack Islamist militiants cordon off the area and no one, including the local villagers, is allowed to come even near the targeted place. The militants themselves collect the bodies, bury the dead and then issue the statement that all of them were innocent civilians. However, according to the people of Waziristan, the only civilians who have been killed so far in the drone attacks are women or children of the militants in whose houses/compounds they hold meetings. But that used to happen in the past and now they don’t hold meetings at places where women and children of the militants reside. In one case when the funeral procession of an Islamist commander was hit and some civilians were killed. But after the attack people got the excuse of not attending the funeral of slain militants or offering them food.

Farhat Taj claims that locals usually appreciate drone attacks when they compare it with the Pakistan Army’s attacks, which always result in collateral damage. People said that when a drone would hover over the skies, they wouldn’t be disturbed and would carry on their usual business because they would be sure that it does not target the civilians, but the same people would run for shelter when a Pakistani jet would appear in the skies because of its indiscriminate firing. They say that even in the same compound only the exact room – where a high value target (HVT) is present – is targeted and others in the same compound are spared.

In response to this analysis Irfan Husain writing in Dawn agreed with Farhat Taj's assessment and called for more drone attacks. He wrote: "We need to wake up to the reality that the enemy has grown very strong in the years we temporized and tried to do deals with them. Clearly, we need allies in this fight. Howling at the moon is not going to get us the cooperation we so desperately need. A solid case can be made for more drone attacks, not less."

153 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:27:55pm

night all!

154 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:30:16pm

re: #142 freetoken

According to the seasonal outlook, released only two weeks ago:
[Link: www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov...]
parts of TX are supposed to improve as the summer goes on.

Only if the La Nina weakens. It's approaching stasis with El Nino right now (ie: the ENSO is approaching temperature normals) but she has done a double-dip in the past.

No one knows.

155 freetoken  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:35:36pm

re: #154 austin_blue

Usually the seasonal outlooks are ok for prognostication, but of course no where near as good as the short term outlooks.

Different parts of the globe react differently to ENSO, and also they act variably to the impact of ENSO.

Southern California is a classic case, but it is on the boundary between land and sea and that makes changes hard to predict here as far as ENSO goes. Interior to the continent may show a better correlation to changes in the Pacific sea surface temps (as far as repetition), but there is still quite a bit of variability.

Besides ENSO there is also the PDO which is looking pretty stubborn (the NE Pacific has been in a long cool spell as far as surface temps). So there are a lot of things going on.

What I guess I'm saying is that the mid term expectations for your drought are more likely than not to be correct, but that's hardly any comfort for you in TX as the seasonal outlook calls for continued drought in much of TX, with only the SE US and parts of AZ/NM getting relief.

156 Cheechako  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:45:34pm

re: #131 austin_blue

Doesn't help. It's a classic La Nina pattern since last fall. Type in "drought monitor" tomorrow in Google after 10:00 AM EST, Last week week, Texas was 70% in "Exceptional Drought". The affect on farming and ranching is absolutely brutal. Rivers are running dry that haven't since the "drought of record" from 1950 to '56. That was a dry spell, interrupted by two years of subnormal rainfall, that devastated the state.

The problem is that we are seeing an increased amplitude in wet/dry cycles and a decrease in the time between them. Welcome to the Greenhouse. We need an atmospheric upgrade ASAP.


I'll gladly trade places with you. We had over 2" of rain yesterday and today.

157 austin_blue  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:50:01pm

Night all! Sweet scaly dreams.re: #155 freetoken

Usually the seasonal outlooks are ok for prognostication, but of course no where near as good as the short term outlooks.

Different parts of the globe react differently to ENSO, and also they act variably to the impact of ENSO.

Southern California is a classic case, but it is on the boundary between land and sea and that makes changes hard to predict here as far as ENSO goes. Interior to the continent may show a better correlation to changes in the Pacific sea surface temps (as far as repetition), but there is still quite a bit of variability.

Besides ENSO there is also the PDO which is looking pretty stubborn (the NE Pacific has been in a long cool spell as far as surface temps). So there are a lot of things going on.

What I guess I'm saying is that the mid term expectations for your drought are more likely than not to be correct, but that's hardly any comfort for you in TX as the seasonal outlook calls for continued drought in much of TX, with only the SE US and parts of AZ/NM getting relief.

Agreed. This is a motherfucker of a weather pattern. It will affect future public policy decisions on irrigation of water intensive crops (rice), salinity levels in bay outlets of Texas rivers (fishing, shrimp, tourism, seafood retail, &c), and the overall health of the Gulf of Mexico.

My wife's Graduate Thesis was entitled "Whiskey's for Drinkin', Water's for Fightin", concerning the future allocation of available water to the various players who will need it. That was in 1994.

Prescient. But not surprising. Brilliant woman.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:55:50pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

I think that one's been used recently.

What American values would you describe Michele B. as proposing we return to?

159 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:56:00pm

re: #150 austin_blue

Keep in mind that Haydn, Bach, Vivaldi, even Mozart in many cases, were writing the pop music of their day- chamber music for their patrons. Typical chamber orchestras had 4 first and second fiddles, 4 viols and celli, 2 basses, 2 each of flutes, clarinets, oboes, and basoons, maybe a couple of horns and one percussionist. Many of these pieces featured a soloist as a concerto player.

These pieces cannot be appreciated in recordings, They need to be be heard in small spaces, live, to understand the mileau in which they were composed.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. I saw a wonderful concert of 3 Brandeburgs & a Recorder Concerto on period instruments about a year ago. Gave me a much better understanding of the role and sound quality of the Harpsicord. If anything, my appreciation of that eras music increased. I've been listening to quartets for a long time as well though I haven't picked up a viola in decades.

160 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 10:56:49pm

re: #29 palomino

Maybe you could expound on how we've strayed from what you see as American values. As for optimism, if it's backed up by nothing but religious fervor, it's mere delusion.

Religious fervor is one thing. If optimism is supported only by 'Vote for ME and it'll all be groovy!", it's mere hucksterism.

161 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:00:37pm

Good night, all.

162 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:03:16pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

...

163 Kragar  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:08:17pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

I think that one's been used recently.

What American values would you describe Michele B. as proposing we return to?

"State's rights"

164 laZardo  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:19:15pm

re: #152 ProLifeLiberal

Link plox?

165 Varek Raith  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:38:33pm

re: #21 drpangloss

what a cheerful song! perfect fit for Michele Bachmann who is injecting a large dose of optimism and return to American values. what song would fit Barack - who is such a downer, blaming everybody but himself for the hole he has dug so deep. maybe his song should be "Won't Get Fooled Again"

Hahahaha!
Awesome.
Image: Obama-Killed-Osama-44510501722.png

166 sagehen  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:42:09pm

re: #152 ProLifeLiberal

As much as I'd like to believe that... it seems a little too sunny to be credible.

167 dell*nix  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:46:16pm

Tom Waits = Gods Away On Business

Youtube Video
Dedicated to the theocrats.
168 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Wed, Jun 29, 2011 11:53:28pm

Dunno if it's been mentioned yet, but Pam has issued a statement. Money quotes:

the EDL was aware of neo-Nazi attempts at infiltration, and had a policy of expelling anyone who expressed any kind of antisemitic or neofascist sentiments

However, it has become increasingly clear that the EDL has morphed and diverged from its original course. They now have clearly been infiltrated by the worst kind of influences, something that had successfully staved off for years, and they're no longer staving it off.

the neo-fascists that had infiltrated the administration of the group

But whatvever the case may be, the EDL has done a Charles Johnson.

Spencer wholeheartedly agrees.

Infilitrators! Probably sent by Charles!

///

169 Summer Seale  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:02:04am

re: #168 000G

When the truth finally outs and sucker punches her dead in the mouth, she has to blame it on somebody else...because, as we all know, Pamela Geller can never, ever, ever be wrong.

170 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:05:13am

re: #165 Varek Raith

Hahahaha!
Awesome.
Image: Obama-Killed-Osama-44510501722.png

Legitimate criticisms aside, whatever one may think they are, Osama is dead. We have the efforts of at least three administrations that deserve credit for this.

For me, this issue is completely non-partisan. That bastard had it coming, and every time I might pee in the ocean, I will imagine myself pissin' on Bin Laden's grave.

/okay, maybe not every time, but hyperbole and stuff...

And if certain individuals can't deal with the fact that it happened under a certain kind of POTUS, they can kick rocks as far as I'm concerned.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

171 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:05:53am

re: #22 elizajane

I Want a New Drug.

172 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:21:30am

re: #168 000G

[imagining the EDL turning into an anti-idiotarian, rationally thought out organization]

[my brain is full of fuck]

173 freetoken  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:26:13am

Continuing on with the Beethoven sonata theme, here is Sonata 19, movements marked "Andante" and "Rondo-Allegro":


MP3 Audio
MP3 Audio
174 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:32:48am

why doesn't she cut the act and just play the benny hill song instead


there is nothing more appropriate, and she knows it

175 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:43:35am

One simple thought regarding the Geller/Spencer announcement:

MOST HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH CONTINUOUS INFILTRATION BY NAZIS.

It seems to me that one should stop and consider

WHAT COMMON CAUSE DO YOU HAVE WITH NAZIS SUCH THAT THEY'RE MAKING AN EFFORT TO JOIN YOUR GROUP

when something like this happens. But, hey--who could anticipate that fearmongering about one swarthy religious/cultural minority could spill over and strike at other ones. Buy, maybe, just maybe--

IT"S TIME TO PUT DOWN THE GIN BOTTLE AND NOTICE THAT NAZIS WANT TO HANG OUT WITH YOU

Because for all the derangement about Charles Johnson and LGF's depature from wingnuttery

CHARLES JOHNSON DIDN"T END UP HANGING OUT WITH NAZIS AND NOT REALIZING IT.

But doubtless I'm missing the nuances of the situation.

176 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:59:50am

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

CHARLES JOHNSON DIDN"T END UP HANGING OUT WITH NAZIS AND NOT REALIZING IT.

Worth noting. Every time, all the time. Mad respect.

177 freetoken  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 2:12:09am

Segovia does Handel:

MP3 Audio
178 freetoken  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 2:23:50am

Message to all the Buchanan and VDH fans out there: the world is going to get browner:

Census Update: What the World Will Look like in 2050

Here is the world in 2050, as imagined by the U.S. Census Bureau: India will be the most populous nation, surpassing China sometime around 2025. The U.S. will remain exactly where it is now: in third place, with a population of 423 million (up from 308 million in 2010). And declining birth rates in two of the world's most economically and politically influential countries, Japan and Russia, will cause them to fall from their current positions as the 9th and 10th most populous nations, respectively, to 16th and 17th.

And further:

The two countries on track to make the biggest population gains are Nigeria and Ethiopia. Nigeria currently boasts 166 million people, but by 2050 its population is expected jump to 402 million. Ethiopia's population will likely triple from 91 million to 278 million, bringing the east African nation into the one of the top 10 most populous countries in the world for the first time. In fact, according to the United Nations Population Division, although only 18% of the world's population lives in so-called "high-fertility" countries (places where women have more than 1.5 daughters on average), most of those countries are in Africa; the continent is expected to experience significant population growth in the coming decades, which could compound the already-dire food supply issues in some African nations.

I do think the Census bureau is overlooking the high likelihood that Sub-saharan Africa will be mostly in wars of some sort over the next 40 years. That and disease and starvation will keep the numbers lower, I think, though the trend of increasing population in Africa is still probably a good bet.

Anyway, the part the white culturalists will find uncomfortable:

While the U.S. appears relatively stable — it's the only country in the top 10 whose ranking is not expected to change in the next 40 years — previous census reports have highlighted dramatic demographic shifts within the country's borders. Last week, the Census Bureau announced that more than half of children under two in the U.S. are ethnic minorities. Add to that the non-Hispanic white population's increasing age (in California, for example, the median age for non-Hispanic whites is almost 10 years older than that of the state as a whole) and America in 2050 will look a lot different than the America we know today.

Note to GOP: probably not a good strategy to become a party of old white men.

179 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 2:31:30am

re: #178 freetoken

Note to GOP: probably not a good strategy to become a party of old white men.

All the more reason to make sure that white people are armed and able to defend their rights against this incursion...

/

180 sagehen  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 3:20:39am

Should math be taught in schools?

Youtube Video


h/t pharyngula

181 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 3:21:26am

re: #178 freetoken

Also all the more reason to keep brown-skinned people out of the USA, black-skinned people in prison, and white-skinned women in the home producin' more white-skinned babies. The GOPs won't change their tunes to be more relevant to today's world; they just hope to remake the world in their own image.

182 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 3:27:07am

One approach: ban abortion but only enforce it if the baby is going to be white...

back to thread topic: the explainer over at slate.com [Link: www.slate.com...] says that Tom Petty does not have any legal recourse to stop Michelle from using his songs at rallies if they have the proper license for it. He could, however, forbid their use in advertisements.

183 researchok  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 3:28:03am

Morning, all

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 3:36:05am

Morning Honcos.

185 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:01:56am

Well. This is pretty gross. NSFW and not safe if you plan on eating bacon or sausage for breakfast.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Remember, though, pigs are bouncy and a conveyor belt is like a little ride for piglets.

186 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:04:49am

Morning folks. I learned something important yesterday, when you're nice god sends you college girls.

187 researchok  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:07:21am

re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well. This is pretty gross. NSFW and not safe if you plan on eating bacon or sausage for breakfast.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Remember, though, pigs are bouncy and a conveyor belt is like a little ride for piglets.

DO NOT show this to FBV

188 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:07:29am

re: #186 RogueOne

Allah sends you virgins...

189 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:08:26am

re: #188 ralphieboy

Allah sends you virgins...

virgin wool

190 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:09:17am

re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #187 researchok

If you ever want to eat meat again never walk through an IBP plant.

191 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:09:41am

re: #186 RogueOne

Morning folks. I learned something important yesterday, when you're nice god sends you college girls.

This statement definitely needs elaboration....

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:09:42am

So, the guy who does the whole "To Catch a Predator" thing got caught cheating on his wife. OH NOES!!!! And the media is acting like it's a big deal. The woman is 30 y/o or so. Wow, hard hitting, the media is. Because that is exactly the same as a guy trying to have sex with a 12 y/o he meets on the internet, which is what Hansen does specials about. What a buncha fucking douchebags.

193 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:10:51am

re: #187 researchok

DO NOT show this to FBV

He would be more troubled by undercover video from a Sara Lee factory!!
///

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:11:14am

re: #191 iceweasel

This statement definitely needs elaboration...

HOT college girls?

195 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:14:25am

re: #191 iceweasel

On the way to the shop yesterday a young man walked up to me at a red light asking where the nearest gas station was. It was only 7 blocks up the street but I felt bad so I turned around to pick him up and take him. Turns out he was part of a college drama group, 2 guys and 4 girls. I did a good deed and in return one of the young ladies did cartwheels for me and bought me lunch.

196 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:15:35am

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

HOT college girls?

drama club girls, close enough. She's going to be staying through the weekend and she wants me to take her to the track. I think I'm going to pass.

197 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:16:13am

re: #195 RogueOne

On the way to the shop yesterday a young man walked up to me at a red light asking where the nearest gas station was. It was only 7 blocks up the street but I felt bad so I turned around to pick him up and take him. Turns out he was part of a college drama group, 2 guys and 4 girls. I did a good deed and in return one of the young ladies did cartwheels for me and bought me lunch.

Nice!

198 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:16:31am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not a big deal but funnier than hell. It's called "Irony"!

199 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:16:50am

re: #196 RogueOne

drama club girls, close enough. She's going to be staying through the weekend and she wants me to take her to the track. I think I'm going to pass.

Your brother wouldn't. ;-)

200 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:18:47am

re: #199 iceweasel

Your brother wouldn't. ;-)

That's true, which is probably why it's a good idea to pass.

201 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:19:49am

re: #185 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well. This is pretty gross. NSFW and not safe if you plan on eating bacon or sausage for breakfast.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Remember, though, pigs are bouncy and a conveyor belt is like a little ride for piglets.

That why we must outlaw kosher and halal slaughter in the United States!1!1TY

Oh wait...

202 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:21:31am

Diet sodas will keel you!!
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

203 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:22:59am

re: #202 Cannadian Club Akbar

Read that the other day, I think that study is full of crap. I drink a lot of diet faygo. Mmmm, faygo.

204 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:23:24am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

So, the guy who does the whole "To Catch a Predator" thing got caught cheating on his wife. OH NOES!!! And the media is acting like it's a big deal. The woman is 30 y/o or so. Wow, hard hitting, the media is. Because that is exactly the same as a guy trying to have sex with a 12 y/o he meets on the internet, which is what Hansen does specials about. What a buncha fucking douchebags.

re: #198 RogueOne

It was all downhill after this moment.

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:24:02am

re: #201 Alouette

Oh wait...

We had a local shock jock that killed a pig in the parking lot of the radio station he worked at years ago. Animal rights people freaked, he got arrested. Was found not guilty because it was a common practice for hunters.

206 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:24:02am

re: #204 laZardo

That really deserves more than one upding but it's all I got

207 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:25:20am

re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar

If we ate people I'd hunt every day but I like animals too much to shoot them. If I had to kill my own food I'd eat nothing but fish.

208 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:27:10am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar


it is much the same slippery slope thinking that makes fundamentalist christians equate homosexuality with pedophilia, bestiality or wife abuse: it is all an abdomination in the eyes of the lord.


and it is all titllatingly sensationalist, which guarantees that anyone shouting loud enough will get our attention

209 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:27:31am

re: #203 RogueOne

Read that the other day, I think that study is full of crap. I drink a lot of diet faygo. Mmmm, faygo.

Why does this commercial sound like a serial killer's theme song?

/and no, for once it isn't ICP

210 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:29:08am

re: #209 laZardo

Lordy, the 70's sucked!

211 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:30:55am

re: #209 laZardo

Why does this commercial sound like a serial killer's theme song?

/and no, for once it isn't ICP

I get your point. You can kinda see some dude in a room, a victim tied to a chair, getting soda poured all over her as the freak frolics around, dancing...

212 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:35:29am

Funny that this just popped up on youtube

Youtube Video
213 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:37:04am

I'm not very brand loyal except when it comes to soda. Besides coke the only thing I'll drink is Faygo. I love high levels of carbonation.

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:40:50am

re: #213 RogueOne

I'm not very brand loyal except when it comes to soda. Besides coke the only thing I'll drink is Faygo. I love high levels of carbonation.

I miss the 16 oz glass bottles of Pepsi and Coke. I can still get the 8oz Cokes, which are great. And I won't drink out of plastic bottles. They suck.

215 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:46:41am

But those taxes may come with a price. Amazon and online retailer Overstock.com Inc. told thousands of California Internet marketing affiliates that they will stop paying commissions for referrals of so-called click-through customers.

That's because the new requirement applies only to online sellers based out of state that have some connection to California, such as workers, warehouses or offices here.

Both Amazon in Seattle and Overstock in Salt Lake City have told affiliates that they would have to move to another state if they wanted to continue earning commissions for referring customers.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

216 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:46:48am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

Preach brother! We could have been twins separated at birth (except you'd have to be better looking//)! They sell the 16oz mexican cokes around town but they're too sweet.

217 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:48:09am

re: #216 RogueOne

Preach brother! We could have been twins separated at birth (except you'd have to be better looking//)! They sell the 16oz mexican cokes around town but they're too sweet.

I'll let you be the better looking one as long as you are also the one who get stabbed by crazy women.:)

218 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:49:49am

re: #217 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't even like to argue IRL relationships, I never did drama. No stabby girls allowed.

219 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:53:37am

[Link: www.myfoxboston.com...]
Uh, I got nothing.

220 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:54:42am

re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar

"That's a weird looking float"// How in the world could someone not have noticed there was a body in the water?

221 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:59:17am

re: #120 b_sharp

After Stein's part in “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed” I take anything he says with several tonnes of salt.

Expelled won "Take Ben Stein's Integrity".

222 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:04:38am

Mark Halperin said something bad on Morning Joe but I missed it. They just came back and apologized profusely. Something about the president.

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:07:08am
Youtube Video

Dick?

224 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:07:29am

re: #222 RogueOne

Mark Halperin said something bad on Morning Joe but I missed it. They just came back and apologized profusely. Something about the president.

Got your back, dog...

225 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:07:46am

re: #222 RogueOne

I knew someone would catch it:

Mark Halperin just called Obama "a dick" on Morning Joe
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

HAHAHAhaha!

226 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:08:40am

but it was a clear case of dick-baiting...

227 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:08:45am

re: #223 Cannadian Club Akbar

Video! perfect. They said they goaded him into saying it.

228 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:08:53am

re: #222 RogueOne

Mark Halperin said something bad on Morning Joe but I missed it. They just came back and apologized profusely. Something about the president.

MARK HALPERIN: Do we have the seven-second delay today? I want to characterize how I thought the President behaved.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: We have it. We can use it--right [Executive Producer] Alex?

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, sure, come on, take a chance. Have faith.

BRZEZINSKI: Let's see what happens.

SCARBOROUGH: I'm behind you. You fall down, I'm gonna catch you.

BRZEZINSKI: And the precedent has been set on the show, so you're good [a reference to Joe dropping an f-bomb back in 2008, leading to the installation of the seven-second delay].

HALPERIN: I thought he was kind of a d--k yesterday.

SCARBOROUGH: Oh my God. Delay that! Delay that! What are you doing? I can't believe you--I was joking! Don't do that! Did we delay that?

229 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:09:12am

re: #227 RogueOne

Video! perfect. They said they goaded him into saying it.

He asked if there was a 7 second delay.

230 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:10:40am

re: #229 Cannadian Club Akbar

"oops, sorry 'bout that"

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:12:42am

re: #230 RogueOne

"oops, sorry 'bout that"

I remember watching the Today show years ago and they were coming out of a break, showing the crowd. Some woman held up a sign that read "My tits rule". Funny.

232 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:16:58am

This link started going around right after the presidents speech where he mentioned the jet tax break 84 times (true story, count 'em):

Stimulus Includes Tax Break to Promote Private Jet Sales
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

233 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:20:05am

they favor the tax break, they just don't like it when the democrats criticize corprate execs for taking private jets to washington to beg for a bailout...

234 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:21:01am

Moonbat lib radio host receives an honor from the California State Assembly...

'RESPONSIBLE' RANDI


If in need of further evidence that our Californian "progressive" friends have indeed lost their marbles, we direct you to today's Exhibit A: a State Assembly proclamation honoring libtalker Randi Rhodes for "responsible journalism".

Signed by Assemblyman Tony Mendoza (D-56), the public sector labor union-sponsored award doesn't appear to specify any particular examples of excellence in reporting. Do we really need to point out that she's actually a talk show host?

Here at the Radio Equalizer, of course, we were quickly able to recall a number of "responsible" on-air instances worthy of recognition (what KIND of honor, we don't know):

*A 2008 inference that Sarah Palin likes to sleep with teenage boys

*Her airing of a "parody" skit suggesting Mitt Romney supporters would engage in mass murder if John McCain were to secure the 2008 GOP presidential nomination

*Her claim that McCain was "well-treated" in Vietnam

*A recent assertion that "Bush knew" where Osama bin Laden was hiding all along but allowed him to remain there

*A claim she'd been "mugged" on a New York City street, which quickly fell apart under media scrutiny

*An on-stage tirade where Randi called Hillary Clinton "a big f---ing whore"

And that's just scratching the surface.

...

235 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:22:35am

re: #232 RogueOne

That story is from February 18, 2009. Here's the money quote:

Many economists believe the current recession will last until at least the end of this year and may extend into 2010.
Fail.

236 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:25:26am

Family Says Police Brutality Caught On Video
[Link: www.wsbtv.com...]


Sparkle Willie showed Jones the cell phone video she recorded of her cousin, 26-year-old Samy LaPointe, during an encounter with police outside the B.J.'s Membership Club in Newnan.

"I saw him in one handcuff when he was down on the floor ... and that man was still trying to Tase him. He tried to tell him, 'Stop, stop. I didn't do anything. Stop. Stop,'" Willie explained.

On the video, you can hear Willie screaming, "I can't believe this is happening." She also recorded her cousin's bloody and bruised forehead, which she said resulted from officers beating LaPointe.
....
Police said Willie stole a 24 pack of Seagram's wine coolers.

Her mother, Marinelle Hammit, who was with her at the store, showed Channel 2 the wine coolers she said police said they stole.

"This is the case of Seagram's they said we stole," she said.

Hammitt showed Channel 2 a receipt that she said was for the Seagram's, and Willie showed Jones video she took of a worker checking her basket with the Seagram's and receipt as she left the store.

In fairness to the police, the guy did buy wine coolers so he was sort of asking for it.

237 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:29:26am

re: #236 RogueOne

Wine coolers? No wonder he got tased.
/

238 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:29:38am

Feds rip Brooklyn 'Qaeda'

A Brooklyn man traveled overseas to join terrorist groups linked to al Qaeda and to kill US troops with the aim of dying a martyr for his radical Islamic faith, federal prosecutors said at the start of his trial yesterday.

Betim Kaziu, 23, is an American who was arrested in 2009 and accused of plotting to join an al Qaeda-affiliated group and obtain automatic weapons to kill Americans serving in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Balkans.

"Al Qaeda and other foreign terrorist organizations have put out a call to arms," said assistant US Attorney Seth DuCharme during opening arguments in Brooklyn federal court. "Betim Kaziu answered that call."

A search of Kaziu's laptop turned up training videos and lectures from terrorists such as Osama bin Laden, DuCharme said, along with a series of personal communications through e-mail, videos and social-networking sites that underscored the seriousness of his pursuit.

But Henry Steinglass, Kaziu's attorney, rebutted prosecutors' implication that the videos were anything more than Kaziu and his friends "fooling around."

"Evidence will show that there are other interpretations" of the videos and other communications, Steinglass said. "Innocent interpretations."

Yeah, good luck with that.

239 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:29:53am

re: #235 Cannadian Club Akbar

This guy might have been one of the lifeguards from the story you linked earlier:

Police: Driver leaves pedestrian in windshield
[Link: abclocal.go.com...]


A driver is accused of hitting a man on the Gulf Freeway, driving with the body next to him in the passenger seat, and unbelievably the driver says he had no idea.

240 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:35:00am

Police Chief Investigated In Jaywalking Case
Officer Who Issued Jaywalking Ticket In Question Also Under Investigation
[Link: www.wpbf.com...]


Sources close to the investigation told WPBF 25 News that Esposito recently saw a West Palm Beach police officer speeding down the street and reported it to the police department. It was the same officer who gave Esposito the jaywalking ticket.

"I understand from Shara that when she was crossing the street, she crossed the street with four other people," Moss said. "None of them got a ticket. She was the only one that was singled out."

There is also an internal affairs investigation against the officer to see if there was any wrongdoing.

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:35:36am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

I remember watching the Today show years ago and they were coming out of a break, showing the crowd. Some woman held up a sign that read "My tits rule". Funny.

Some lady flashed hers boobs once. Katie was the only one who caught it. The look on her face was priceless.

242 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:35:56am

re: #239 RogueOne

Florida will not be out done!!!
[Link: www.sptimes.com...]

243 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:36:23am

re: #239 RogueOne

This guy might have been one of the lifeguards from the story you linked earlier:

Police: Driver leaves pedestrian in windshield
[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

That reminds me of this story from a few years ago...

Pedestrian body stuck in car windshield

A motorist hit two pedestrians, then drove home with one of the bodies lodged in his windshield, police said. The man in the windshield died.

Police said Steve Warrichaiet was drunk when he struck the pedestrians as he returned home from a friend's house late Sunday.

One pedestrian was found lying on a street, critically injured, but police said the second victim remained lodged in Warrichaiet's windshield while he drove seven blocks home and parked in his garage.

Warrichaiet's sister, Donna Gutowski, said he called her early Monday, minutes after midnight.

"'Now I really did it. I killed somebody. I put the body in the car,'" she recalled Warrichaiet saying. "But I didn't believe him. He had talked nonsense before."

She said she learned the crash really happened when an investigator came to her home that morning.

244 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:36:58am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

Florida will not be out done!!!
[Link: www.sptimes.com...]

The driver told officers he thought the body had fallen from the sky, said St. Petersburg police Officer Mike Jockers.

HaHaHa! It's raining men!

245 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:38:49am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

That reminds me. The young man I helped out yesterday is from Palm Harbor. He left FL to come to school at Ball State in Muncie IN. I told him he was doing it wrong.

246 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:40:50am

re: #234 NJDhockeyfan

Moonbat lib radio host receives an honor from the California State Assembly...

'RESPONSIBLE' RANDI

Proof that you shouldn't drink and walk.

247 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:41:04am

Uh-oh, the cops are on to some of you!

Monitor lizards caught in West Palm Beach; officials warn of others
[Link: www.palmbeachpost.com...]

248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:45:35am

re: #247 RogueOne

Only crazy fucking people live in Florida.

Bugs the size of small dogs; Reptiles the size of school buses; Brush fires the size of small countries; CCA; Cuban drug lords; Hurricanes; Disneyworld; The constant sulfur smell, Mosquitos the size of sparrows...

It's the dick hanging off of Murika.

249 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:46:23am

This incident is almost 2 years old but there is still more fallout coming:

Review finds widespread wrongdoing in Atlanta Eagle bar raid
[Link: www.ajc.com...]


At least 10 police officers lied and then many of them deleted data on their cellphones in an attempt to hide their actions the night of a raid on a Midtown Atlanta gay bar, according to the findings of an independent review.
...
A statement from the mayor's office, released late Tuesday evening along with a 343-page report, said the independent review corroborated claims made in a federal lawsuit that has since been settled for more than $1 million. The mayor's office also released simultaneously a 39-page report of the internal police investigation of the raid.

"The reports conclude that most of the officers involved in the operation did not conform to the APD’s standard operating procedures," city attorney Cathy Hampton said in a statement Tuesday night.

250 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:48:43am

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You're just mean. You're right, but mean.:)

251 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:48:44am

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

All true but no red-blooded male leaves a beach filled with tanned bikini clad women year round and goes to college in the middle of corn country.

252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:49:46am

re: #249 RogueOne

Why would someone raid a gay bar?

There a law against "too fabulous"? Well coordinated outfits? Really good hygiene?

253 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:50:11am

re: #251 RogueOne

All true but no red-blooded male leaves a beach filled with tanned bikini clad women year round and goes to college in the middle of corn country.

Maybe he stopped at the Atlanta bar on the way back to Indiana.
/

254 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:50:25am

To Catch a Predator host who traps sex perverts in TV stings 'caught cheating on his wife'... by hidden cameras

He's made his name with a controversial show that catches would-be internet sex perverts in televised stings.

But now Chris Hansen has found himself on the receiving end of his own hidden camera tactics, after the married NBC anchor was secretly filmed on an illicit date with a blonde television reporter 20 years his junior.

Hansen, 51, has allegedly been having an affair with Kristyn Caddell, a 30-year-old Florida journalist, for the last four months.

Last weekend he was recorded taking Miss Caddell on a romantic dinner at the exclusive Ritz-Carlton hotel in Manalapan, before spending the night at her Palm Beach apartment.

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:52:06am

re: #254 NJDhockeyfan

If he was on "To Catch an Adulterer" I'd be laughing. But he's not. And it's none of our damn business.

Of course, now I have to go back and read the story.

256 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:52:42am

Third time is a charm:

Twice-fired Dallas cop arrested, accused of stealing motorist’s gun
[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]


Authorities say Horne conducted a traffic stop on April 28 during which he searched a vehicle and seized a handgun and marijuana. He allowed the occupants of the vehicle to leave without arresting them.

Horne, who was assigned to northeast patrol at the time, did not take the gun and the marijuana to the property room at the end of his shift as required, police officials said. Later, a man in the vehicle contacted a supervisor at Horne’s patrol station and told them that Horne had taken the gun.

Horne told the supervisor that he didn’t have the gun but later told police commanders that he had forgotten he had it in his bag. He told investigators that he threw the marijuana away, police said.

257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:53:20am

re: #256 RogueOne

You... uh... don't like cops much; do ya?

258 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:53:23am

re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If he was on "To Catch an Adulterer" I'd be laughing. But he's not. And it's none of our damn business.

Of course, now I have to go back and read the story.

It would have been funnier if it were the guy from "Cheaters" but it's still funny

259 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:54:15am

re: #254 NJDhockeyfan

To Catch a Predator host who traps sex perverts in TV stings 'caught cheating on his wife'... by hidden cameras

It's nobody's business except for Mrs. Hansen's.

260 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:54:16am

re: #256 RogueOne

We had cops down here who "threw" away bags of pot years ago. Mmmkay...

261 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:54:36am

re: #257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You... uh... don't like cops much; do ya?

One of my best friends is a cop (and head of their SWAT team), when I go to his parties I'm the "damn dirty hippie" of the group. Down with the man! and all that.

262 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:54:53am

re: #258 RogueOne

It would have been funnier if it were the guy from "Cheaters" but it's still funny

If I ever meet that guy I'm gonna rip off his soul patch.

263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:56:11am

Why does MSNBC hate Obama?

(just read the story)

264 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:56:56am

re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why does MSNBC hate Obama?

(just read the story)

He's not commie enough for them
//

265 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:59:03am

Gotta run. BBL.

266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:01:07am

re: #247 RogueOne

Uh-oh, the cops are on to some of you!

Monitor lizards caught in West Palm Beach; officials warn of others
[Link: www.palmbeachpost.com...]

Okay, I just read the story. Have a question.

WHO IN THE HELL WOULD HAVE A DOGGY DOOR IN FLORIDA!?!?

267 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:03:12am

re: #266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is sort of asking for trouble. I leave my windows up when I leave for the day as a robber-food delivery device for my dogs. They get hungry during the day.

268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:05:07am

re: #259 Alouette

Most public folk's indiscretions are none of our business. There are some exceptions, those are few and far between.

I don't know why I decided John Edward's situation was my business; other than it solidified my position that he was a smarmy asshole all along.

But, it really wasn't any of my business.

269 kirkspencer  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:07:42am

re: #215 Cannadian Club Akbar

But those taxes may come with a price. Amazon and online retailer Overstock.com Inc. told thousands of California Internet marketing affiliates that they will stop paying commissions for referrals of so-called click-through customers.

That's because the new requirement applies only to online sellers based out of state that have some connection to California, such as workers, warehouses or offices here.

Both Amazon in Seattle and Overstock in Salt Lake City have told affiliates that they would have to move to another state if they wanted to continue earning commissions for referring customers.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

We went on about that yesterday, a bit. I've been thinking about it since and since the opportunity's here would like to share a thought.

I think Amazon and Overstock are making a mistake here in doing this. I think it's possible they're cutting dollars to save pennies.

For a small retailer, maintaining multiple state tax records and filings is exorbitant. (I may put up a page about the joy of starting a multistate non-profit in the age of the internet - it's relevant, but too long for here.) Every state is different, some major metros are trying to horn in on the act, you have to deal with audits,... it can kill a small (3-5 person, less than $500K gross) business.

Amazon, however, has lots of money and lots of people. It gets the benefit of economies of scale as one person (or a small shop) that's too expensive for a small business isn't that much larger and consequently a much smaller piece of the pie for a large business.

In addition, the program they're cutting is a high profit-margin department. No single referrer is particularly large, but in the aggregate they're providing millions of dollars of revenue stream for little additional cost. The referrers also provide a directed, targeted advertisement program that's better targeted than anything else available. "Hi, fellow enthusiasts. I found this great book, and you can buy it here - here's the clickthrough."

Again, I think they're being short-sighted here. In fact, I think the long-run smarter thing would be to leverage the fact they're paying these taxes to their benefit, just as other large businesses paying taxes in those states do.

Cutting dollars to save pennies. There's a lot of that going around, and this is just one more case.

270 RogueOne  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:11:35am

I've dragged my feet long enough. Work to do, enjoy the day people!

271 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:16:08am

Douchebag quote of the day:

"Israel today, I'm sorry, it has the most inbred, unimaginative government I think it's ever had," Tom Friedman said on "The Charlie Rose Show" this week.

272 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:16:52am

re: #269 kirkspencer

I may put up a page about the joy of starting a multistate non-profit in the age of the internet - it's relevant, but too long for here.

Please do. I run a small non-profit. Right now we are registered in one state only, but this is the first year that I will have to file a full 990 instead of the 990 e-postcard.

273 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:17:59am

Dick Durbin needs to read the Constitution again...

Durbin: Illegal Alien Could Be Our Future President

After using illegal immigrants as props to push the DREAM Act, Sen. Durbin (D-IL) made the following statement at a Senate committee hearing:

"When I look around this room, I see America's future. Our doctors, our teachers, our nurses, our engineers, our scientists, our soldiers, our Congressman, our Senators and maybe our President."

However, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution says: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

274 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:19:43am

re: #273 NJDhockeyfan

Dick Durbin needs to read the Constitution again...

Durbin: Illegal Alien Could Be Our Future President

Orly Taitz: An illegal alien is our current President!1!1!

275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:27:02am

re: #273 NJDhockeyfan

However, Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution says: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Boy, the founding fathers sure did hate future immigrants.
/

276 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:27:22am

Are you fucking kidding me?

U.S. Designates Israel as Country That Tends ‘To Promote, Produce, or Protect’ Terrorists; Also Calls Israel Anti-Terror Partner


In an implicit admission that Israel is so threatened by terrorism that it is not only surrounded by countries and territories that produce terrorists but also unwillingly harbors terrorists within its own territory in a way that most other nations in the world do not, the Obama administration is currently listing Israel among 36 “specially designated countries” it believes “have shown a tendency to promote, produce, or protect terrorist organizations or their members.”

Also included on the list--separately from Israel--are the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Gaza, as well as Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, the four nations bordering Israel.

...The Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General published the list of "specially designated countries" as an appendix to an unclassified May 11 report--"Supervision of Aliens Commensurate With Risk"--that was publicly posted on the Internet. (The appendix is on page 18 of the document.)

As a matter of policy, according to the inspector general’s report, citizens of Israel and other “specially designated countries” are subjected to a special security screening called a “Third Agency Check” (TAC) when they are actually detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the division of the Department of Homeland Security responsible for enforcing the immigration laws.

277 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:30:15am

re: #276 NJDhockeyfan

Are you fucking kidding me?

U.S. Designates Israel as Country That Tends ‘To Promote, Produce, or Protect’ Terrorists; Also Calls Israel Anti-Terror Partner

Wait, what?

Oh, it's CNSNews. Never mind.

278 iossarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:30:47am

re: #259 Alouette

It's nobody's business except for Mrs. Hansen's.

I don't really agree with this. Hansen makes a sleazy living sensationalizing criminal behavior and exploiting people who, though their actions are despicable, are quite possibly past victims of abuse themselves.

He helped create the world we live in, where things that should be none of our business are on TV at 9, followed by commercials for Viagra and the war in Afghanistan.

Fucking hypocrite.

279 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:32:02am

re: #278 iossarian

I don't really agree with this. Hansen makes a sleazy living sensationalizing criminal behavior and exploiting people who, though their actions are despicable, are quite possibly past victims of abuse themselves.

He helped create the world we live in, where things that should be none of our business are on TV at 9, followed by commercials for Viagra and the war in Afghanistan.

Fucking hypocrite.

He wasn't doing anything illegal, just immoral. Probably not fattening.

280 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:33:34am

North Korea assumes presidency of U.N. arms control conference

In the latest ‘you’ve got to be kidding’ news from the United Nations, North Korea assumed the presidency of the Conference on Disarmament Tuesday.

“Bare months after the U.N. finally suspended Libya’s Col. Muammar Qaddafi from its Human Rights Council, North Korea wins the propaganda coup of heading the world’s disarmament agency,” the executive director of UN Watch Hillel Neuer said in a statement protesting the move. “It’s asking the fox to guard the chickens, and damages the U.N.’s credibility.”

According to the U.N. summary of the meeting, North Korea’s So Se Pyong addressed the 65-member arms control forum, saying that “he was very much committed to the Conference and during his presidency he welcomed any sort of constructive proposals that strengthened the work and credibility of the body.”

Neuer said that though North Korea’s new role as head of the conference, which reports to the U.N. General Assembly, would likely be justified by the U.N. by saying it was the result of a an “automatic rotation,” such an excuse was not sufficient.

“While the U.N. will likely defend North Korea’s appointment as simply an automatic rotation,” he said, “no system should tolerate such a fundamental conflict of interests. It’s common sense that a disarmament body should not be headed by the world’s arch-villain on illegal weapons and nuclear proliferation, notorious for exporting missiles and nuclear know-how to fellow rogue regimes around the globe.”

The UN never ceases to amaze me with where they assign these violent regimes.

281 iossarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:37:49am

re: #279 Alouette

He wasn't doing anything illegal, just immoral. Probably not fattening.

I know. On the other hand, the popularity of his show is purely based on stigmatizing deviant behavior (obviously it's dressed up as being all about law'n'order) and selling the result to prurient viewers. His show is very much the moral equivalent of the Enquirer (or whoever it was who performed the sting).

He is now the victim of a system from which he has happily profited in the past.

282 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:40:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We got to celebrate the 4th a little early last night with a fireworks display in town; that's something some other towns have decided to forgo b/c of budget concerns. Our town raised the money through donations from local businesses plus we have a fee to view the fireworks from within the beach/park where they shoot 'em.

It was a welcome break from the usual insanity....

283 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:42:27am

So, Mark Halperin will be fired today and shunned by the journalism community for his snide little outburst this morning, right?

/I crack myself up some days.

284 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:48:00am

Crazy Pam....
EDL Shake-up

the EDL has done a Charles Johnson. And they are now unrecognizable to me. I am sure regular Atlas readers have noticed that some time ago I stopped covering their events -- I was waiting to see how things would shake out. I was waiting to see if the forces of good would recapture the heart and soul of the group. Alas, it was not to be.

Now that the person whom I most trusted in the EDL, Roberta Moore, has resigned, as she was increasingly uncomfortable with the neo-fascists that had infiltrated the administration of the group, I too am withdrawing my support from the EDL.

285 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:52:16am

re: #284 Killgore Trout

Crazy Pam...
EDL Shake-up

It's quite remarkable how she dragged Charles into this. Probably she blames him for pointing it out and making her look stupid* on Teh Interwebz.

*Like, if it wasn't for that mean Charles, nobody would ever think she was a stupid, hateful bitch.

286 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:54:12am

re: #283 makeitstop

So, Mark Halperin will be fired today and shunned by the journalism community for his snide little outburst this morning, right?

/I crack myself up some days.

No, dummy. He'll score a job at Fox. Sheesh.
/

287 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:54:15am

re: #283 makeitstop

So, Mark Halperin will be fired today and shunned by the journalism community for his snide little outburst this morning, right?

/I crack myself up some days.

Halperin will get his own show.

288 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:54:43am

Mornin' dicks. Oops...did I say that out loud?

289 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:55:06am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' dicks. Oops...did I say that out loud?

Delay that!
/

290 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:56:00am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' dicks. Oops...did I say that out loud?

How did you know I was here?

291 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:56:02am

re: #285 Alouette

It's quite remarkable how she dragged Charles into this. Probably she blames him for pointing it out and making her look stupid* on Teh Interwebz.

*Like, if it wasn't for that mean Charles, nobody would ever think she was a stupid, hateful bitch.

I'm sure Charles and LGF were a factor. The last thing she wanted to do was to admit we were right.

292 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:56:26am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' dicks. Oops...did I say that out loud?

I liked you better when you called us insurgents. Just sayin'.

293 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:57:28am

re: #292 Cannadian Club Akbar

I liked you better when you called us insurgents. Just sayin'.

I try to think of something complimentary to say to you every morning.

294 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:57:36am

re: #284 Killgore Trout

Yet, if Pam had listened to Charles' warnings all those many moons ago, she wouldn't have been put in the position to have to withdraw her support for that hate-filled organization.. when they openly began showing that hate towards Jews.

It isn't that the neo-Fascists infiltrated the group recently. They were there all along if she only bothered to look.

295 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:59:15am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' dicks. Oops...did I say that out loud?

That's no way to greet your Zionist masters. That salutation should be:

Mornin' Zionist master dicks. /thank you for shopping S-mart.

296 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 6:59:22am

Britain: Iran testing missiles with nuclear capability

Iran has been carrying out covert ballistic missile tests and rocket launches including testing missiles capable of delivering a nuclear payload, British Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Wednesday.

He told parliament the tests were in clear contravention of UN resolution 1929.

Iran denied the claims.

Sean Penn is flying out to confirm Iran's claim.

297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:00:20am

re: #281 iossarian

Well, I've never watched Chris' show for the reasons you've pointed out. Just like I don't watch Greta or Nancy.

So, I won't watch this. Because, digging on the sordid details of this would make me a hypocrite.

298 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:01:08am

re: #284 Killgore Trout

I was waiting to see if the forces of good would recapture the heart and soul of the group.

I didn't know the forces of good were interested in joining hate groups, nor do I recall a time when the EDL expressed a positive message to the world around them.

299 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:01:35am

Indictments have been handed down in the Rafik Hariri assassination. Hizbullah has its grubbies all over it, including two senior members (one of whom is the brother in law of Imad Muginyeh (or Imad Moughnieh) who was responsible for the 1983 Marine barracks bombing in Beirut that killed 241 Marines.

Expect the usual suspects to complain bitterly.

300 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:02:22am

re: #296 NJDhockeyfan

Spiccoli?

301 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:02:59am

Well it's that time of day...work work work...

Youtube Video

See ya!

302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:03:35am

re: #301 NJDhockeyfan

By the way... that chick was lovely.

303 iossarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:04:00am

re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, I've never watched Chris' show for the reasons you've pointed out. Just like I don't watch Greta or Nancy.

So, I won't watch this. Because, digging on the sordid details of this would make me a hypocrite.

I think this is the right attitude.

304 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:04:40am

re: #299 lawhawk

Good. Fuck them.

305 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:05:14am

re: #288 darthstar

Mornin' dicks. Oops...did I say that out loud?

Dicks, you say?

306 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:05:50am

re: #299 lawhawk

Indictments have been handed down in the Rafik Hariri assassination. Hizbullah has its grubbies all over it, including two senior members (one of whom is the brother in law of Imad Muginyeh (or Imad Moughnieh) who was responsible for the 1983 Marine barracks bombing in Beirut that killed 241 Marines.

Expect the usual suspects to complain bitterly.

They must be feeling the pinch what with their immediate benefactors a little too busy dealing with their own non-preferred factions.

307 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:07:23am

My friend has relatives rolling into town this weekend and I offered to help him with spring cleaning. I'll never learn.

308 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:08:07am

re: #305 laZardo

Dicks, you say?

That is so fucking awesome. Loudest critter on the planet is just rubbing his dick.

309 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:08:24am

re: #307 Cannadian Club Akbar

My friend has relatives rolling into town this weekend and I offered to help him with spring cleaning. I'll never learn.

It's not spring.

310 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:09:33am

bbl

311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:10:32am

re: #303 iossarian

My wife watches all the "Housewives of..," shows. Kardashians (sp?) and assorted shit of that nature. Also reads "People" and assorted mags. I can't stand that stuff either.

I just leave the room or put the laptop in my face... but, honestly? I sometimes will call her "Shallow Gal". She totally ignores me.

It is the thing that I dislike the most about my wife. She thinks I'm being sarcastic. I'm not.

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:10:50am

re: #307 Cannadian Club Akbar

derp

313 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:11:37am

re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife watches all the "Housewives of..," shows. Kardashians (sp?) and assorted shit of that nature. Also reads "People" and assorted mags. I can't stand that stuff either.

I just leave the room or put the laptop in my face... but, honestly? I sometimes will call her "Shallow Gal". She totally ignores me.

It is the thing that I dislike the most about my wife. She thinks I'm being sarcastic. I'm not.

When did you marry my daughter?

314 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:12:06am

re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Kardashian's have fat asses. Maybe I just don't get it.

315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:13:19am

re: #313 Alouette

Funny. She doesn't look Jewish.

316 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:13:45am

re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Kardashian's have fat asses. Maybe I just don't get it.

And the Housewives of Jersey make me want to remove my eardrum.

317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:14:51am

re: #314 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Kardashian's have fat asses. Maybe I just don't get it give a flying fig.


FTFM

318 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:18:57am

re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My wife watches all the "Housewives of..," shows. Kardashians (sp?) and assorted shit of that nature. Also reads "People" and assorted mags. I can't stand that stuff either.

I just leave the room or put the laptop in my face... but, honestly? I sometimes will call her "Shallow Gal". She totally ignores me.

It is the thing that I dislike the most about my wife. She thinks I'm being sarcastic. I'm not.

Could be worse. Mom has the entire Joel Rosenberg rapture-reading set.

319 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:19:45am

re: #318 laZardo

Could be worse. Mom has the entire Joel Rosenberg rapture-reading set.

The rapture was already here. We missed it.

320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:19:50am

re: #318 laZardo

I don't know what you're talking about. I'll assume that simple fact will make me happy.

321 iossarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:20:38am

I find the whole People magazine scene a bit like junk food. At this point I've basically trained myself not to like it (and I was never that into it in the first place) but in the wrong circumstances I can be tempted.

I think that scene is a big part of why people are unable to/uninterested in following developments in Serious World Affairs.

322 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:21:56am

re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar

The rapture was already here. We missed it.

I think I need a new alarm clock.
/

323 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:23:02am

I used to (heart) Jules Asner.

324 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:23:20am

re: #318 laZardo

Could be worse. Mom has the entire Joel Rosenberg rapture-reading set.

I thought that was by LaHaye?

325 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:24:47am

re: #324 Alouette

That's Left Behind. She actually read through all that too.

;_;

326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:28:20am

re: #325 laZardo

I started the "Left Behind" series. But the fifth grade writing style left me a bit nonplussed. Couldn't understand what the big fuss was about.

Let's say a Christian Theologian was able to get, say, Stephen King behind the keyboard... now, that, IMO would be worth reading.

327 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:29:04am

re: #325 laZardo

That's Left Behind. She actually read through all that too.

;_;

My daughter likes to read those teenage vampire "Twilight" books.

328 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:29:57am

re: #327 Alouette

My daughter likes to read those teenage vampire "Twilight" books.

...okay, now I'm thankful that there are worse things to read.

329 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:30:35am

re: #327 Alouette

My daughter likes to read those teenage vampire "Twilight" books.

They made vampires into huge wussy douches. Sucks. (no pun intended)

330 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:32:10am

re: #328 laZardo

...okay, now I'm thankful that there are worse things to read.

I asked her, "why do you read that shit?"

And she said, "It's fun! Why do you read that other shit?" (detective novels and spy thrillers)

331 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:34:08am

re: #330 Alouette

And she said, "It's fun! Why do you read that other shit?" (detective novels and spy thrillers)

My reaction when she calls those things shit.

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:35:15am

re: #330 Alouette

My wife's defense, "You watch that "Mythbusters" shit."

Uh... I win.

Going to mow the grass, bbiab

333 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:35:22am

re: #331 laZardo

My reaction when she calls those things shit.

Wonder how many people that dude has killed.

334 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:38:49am

re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wonder how many people that dude has killed.

He's obviously incapable of going at breakneck speed.

335 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:42:38am

I went through the comments at Pam's and Spencer's sites. Most of the comments are supporting the EDL but some people are waking up. I don't know how many folks here today remember EDL die hard Lionheart but his blog has become fairly inactive but a few days ago he posted this video documenting the hate and ugliness of the EDL.

336 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:43:23am

re: #334 makeitstop

He's obviously incapable of going at breakneck speed.

If you see him sitting at the end of a dark dingy bar and he's talking to himself and slamming his fist on the bar, RUN!!!

337 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:44:30am

Morning. Another day with la loca for me.

338 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:44:43am

re: #331 laZardo


I somehow have trouble picturing him in anything other than orange prison overalls...

339 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:46:08am

Twilight sucks as does True Blood. I was basically forced into watching the latter (again) last night. Never seen such trash in my life. All it does is spew a bunch of garbage "morals" around a ridiculous plot and theme.

340 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:46:12am

re: #338 ralphieboy

I somehow have trouble picturing him in anything other than orange prison overalls...

If he starts walking towards your cell carrying a moonpie, RUN!!!

341 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:49:16am

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let's say a Christian Theologian was able to get, say, Stephen King behind the keyboard... now, that, IMO would be worth reading.


They did. It was called "The Stand." :-)

342 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:50:44am

This just in: Mark Halperin suspended 'indefinitely' from MSNBC.

343 blueraven  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:52:13am

re: #342 makeitstop

This just in: Mark Halperin suspended 'indefinitely' from MSNBC.

Good. WTF was he thinking? Really juvenile, especially for the editor of a national weekly news magazine.

344 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:53:07am

re: #335 Killgore Trout

Ah, even Lionheart noticed the Nazis in the EDL....

Off subject slightly but one of the main reasons there was fall out at the beginning was because I and others, could not morally nor politically support a protest on the streets of Britain on 8/8 due to the fact I have Jewish friends, I support the State of Israel and I am not a neo-nazi. 8/8 is the most symbolic statement in neo-nazi ideology as it stands for Heil Hitler and all Nazis use it, so no right-wing protest group that professes not to be aligned to nazis should be on the streets on that day (In my opinion anyway) due to its significance. I wonder how all of the Jewish supporters now looking at the EDL tree, feel about “Tommy” ignoring the pleas at the beginning and baptising the English Defence League on 8/8? I suppose most of them do not have a clue, they just listen to the bull that comes out of his mouth while he seeks support and funding to line his pockets. Chris Renton aka John Sheridan was even on Stormfront forum under the alias EDL drumming up support for that day.
345 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:56:21am

re: #342 makeitstop

This just in: Mark Halperin suspended 'indefinitely' from MSNBC.

Linky:
[Link: mojoe.msnbc.msn.com...]

346 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 7:58:52am

re: #343 blueraven

Good. WTF was he thinking? Really juvenile, especially for the editor of a national weekly news magazine.

He did ask if they had a delay button. Idiotic thing to say, but they knew it was coming.

347 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:00:41am

re: #345 Cannadian Club Akbar

Linky:
[Link: mojoe.msnbc.msn.com...]

Weak-ass apology, IMO.

348 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:01:31am

re: #346 Cannadian Club Akbar

Even if there was a delay button-- people would have known he just used an expletive to describe the president. Censorship doesn't do dick, in that regards.

349 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:02:38am

re: #343 blueraven

Good. WTF was he thinking? Really juvenile, especially for the editor of a national weekly news magazine.

Yeah. Thank goodness MSNBC suspended him. They have a reputation to uphold. Especially after all of those years of Keith Olbermann vs. another president.

//

350 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:03:13am

re: #348 Obdicut

Even if there was a delay button-- people would have known he just used an expletive to describe the president. Censorship doesn't do dick, in that regards.

If someone ask if there is a delay button, cut their mic.

351 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:03:34am

re: #339 Gus 802

Twilight sucks hard - it's a vampire movie after all that's geared to teen/tweeners. Yet, it's a movie that shows up on Showtime 20x a week and is inescapable to watch. It's worse than a train wreck. It's Titanic-awesome in its suckage.

Heck, they turn the glorious Olympic peninsula where much of the movie is shot into something drab and dull. I once did the drive around the peninsula when visiting the NP - so I can say I've been to Forks and can't believe that they were able to take those vistas and suck every last bit of life out of them.

The fight scenes suck. The dialogue sucks. There's no chemistry between any of the three lead characters.

352 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:04:59am

so really, lizards, what is worse: "flake" or "dick"?

353 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:05:05am

re: #335 Killgore Trout

Have you checked Pam's blog to see whether she's telling the truth about no longer posting/supporting EDL recently?

354 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:06:41am

re: #350 Cannadian Club Akbar

If someone ask if there is a delay button, cut their mic.

Director could have easily inserted a commercial

Theres always one in the cue in the control room at the ready

355 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:06:48am

re: #351 lawhawk

I have never read or watched any part of the "Twilight" franchise so I couldn't begin to gauge the magnitude of suck.

356 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:06:55am

re: #352 ralphieboy

so really, lizards, what is worse: "flake" or "dick"?

Flakedick.

/enjoy your lunches, people :D

357 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:07:06am

re: #352 ralphieboy

so really, lizards, what is worse: "flake" or "dick"?

If you have a flakey dick, please consult a physician

358 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:07:36am

re: #353 lawhawk

She has a post up about it and Spencer cross posted it. I'm making the rounds of all our old pals this morning to see what their take is. It seems there's been a lot of backstabbing going on over the past few months.

359 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:08:14am

re: #357 sattv4u2

If you have a flakey dick, please consult a physician

Thank God it only burns when I pee.
/

360 blueraven  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:09:01am

re: #346 Cannadian Club Akbar

He did ask if they had a delay button. Idiotic thing to say, but they knew it was coming.

The whole...are we on delay, so I can say something wildly inappropriate is juvenile. He is an editor of a major news magazine. He is not supposed to act like some flunky partisan hack, for the lulz.

361 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:09:02am

re: #355 Alouette

I have never read or watched any part of the "Twilight" franchise so I couldn't begin to gauge the magnitude of suck.

Good thing you're not in college.

362 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:09:57am

re: #352 ralphieboy

so really, lizards, what is worse: "flake" or "dick"?


At some point, people usually stop voting for flakes.

Dicks get re-elected forever.

363 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:10:28am

re: #352 ralphieboy

so really, lizards, what is worse: "flake" or "dick"?

Let's try some examples. Here's some usage samples:

•Obama sounded like a dick yesterday.
•Obama sounded like a flake yesterday.

364 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:10:55am

Lionheart really spilled the beans on the EDL, nazis, BNP, National Front, etc. It's long but an interesting read for those of us who went through the LGF vs the Nazis era.....
Who really founded the English Defence League?

365 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:11:30am

re: #360 blueraven

The whole...are we on delay, so I can say something wildly inappropriate is juvenile. He is an editor of a major news magazine. He is not supposed to act like some flunky partisan hack, for the lulz.

You could tell by the look on his face before he said it that he was relishing getting ready to call a sitting president a 'dick.' And you could tell when he issued his (weak) apology that he realized it was a stupid thing to do.

As to the 'flunky partisan hack' thing - he's not acting.

366 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:11:34am

re: #360 blueraven

The whole...are we on delay, so I can say something wildly inappropriate is juvenile. He is an editor of a major news magazine. He is not supposed to act like some flunky partisan hack, for the lulz.

I never said it was OK for him to say it. (as I said upthread) The director/producer knew something stoopid was coming. They let it happen.

367 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:12:16am

re: #366 Cannadian Club Akbar

I never said it was OK for him to say it. (as I said upthread) The director/producer knew something stoopid was coming. They let it happen.

a clear case of dick-baiting...

368 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:12:19am

You know who was a Dick?
Nixon.:)

369 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:12:43am

re: #362 BongCrodny

At some point, people usually stop voting for flakes.

Dicks get re-elected forever.

guess not

Dennis Kucinich
Sara Palin
Hank Johnson

/

370 blueraven  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:12:45am

re: #349 Gus 802

Yeah. Thank goodness MSNBC suspended him. They have a reputation to uphold. Especially after all of those years of Keith Olbermann vs. another president.

//

I never heard KO call Bush something like that. But then gain, I never watched him much. He was also abrasive and condescending, I am not sad he was let go.

371 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:12:55am

re: #365 makeitstop

You could tell by the look on his face before he said it that he was relishing getting ready to call a sitting president a 'dick.'


He's a hero!

372 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:14:25am

re: #369 sattv4u2

guess not

Dennis Kucinich
Sara Palin
Hank Johnson

/

Guam just capsized.

//

373 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:14:44am

re: #370 blueraven

I never heard KO call Bush something like that. But then gain, I never watched him much. He was also abrasive and condescending, I am not sad he was let go.

He just called W a nazi and then screamed about people calling President Obama a nazi.

374 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:15:39am

re: #368 Cannadian Club Akbar

You know who was a Dick?
Nixon.:)

A Tricky Dick no less. I suppose he deserved that?

375 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:17:11am

re: #369 sattv4u2

guess not

Dennis Kucinich
Sara Palin
Hank Johnson

/


It wasn't supposed to be a foolproof theory.

376 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:17:28am

re: #371 BongCrodny

I doubt it:

2004 elections

In October 2004 the Drudge Report published a memo Halperin sent to ABC News staff about coverage of the U.S. presidential election directing them not to "reflexively and artificially hold both sides 'equally' accountable" and that both John Kerry and George W. Bush used "distortion" in their campaign, but that Kerry's distortions were not "central to his efforts to win." Halperin was criticized by conservatives who used the memo to reinforce long-standing complaints of media bias. ABC News spokesman Jeffrey Schneider confirmed the authenticity of the memo and said Halperin "takes his responsibility to be fair as seriously as a heart attack."

377 tnguitarist  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:20:00am

Hello.

378 prairiefire  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:21:44am

Mark Halperin shows his true colors by Calling President Obama a "dick"[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
He is suspended by MSNBC.

379 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:22:18am

And with that I'm personally going to put Mark Halperin's little escapade into my nontroversy box.

380 blueraven  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:22:48am

re: #373 Cannadian Club Akbar

He just called W a nazi and then screamed about people calling President Obama a nazi.

Well that's really bad. Like I said, I dont miss him one bit.

However there is a bit of a difference. Olberman is a partisan firebrand. That was his role. As awful as he could be, it was probably pushed somewhat. Then when he went over the limit at times, it was accepted, maybe with mild rebuke. Doesn't make it right at all. Just like Glen Beck, this approach wears thin after a while.

You would think someone in Halperins role, would be a bit more objective and careful. Not only did he harm himself, MSNBC, but Time magazine as well.

381 prairiefire  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:23:10am

re: #378 prairiefire

Mark Halperin shows his true colors by Calling President Obama a "dick"[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
He is suspended by MSNBC.

Oh, you guys know. Happy Thursday, lizards.

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:23:24am

re: #332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Going to mow the grass, bbiab

I love my fairly small yard and really fast lawnmower.

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:24:19am

re: #341 BongCrodny

Oooh! Nice!

Just finished "Under the Dome" by King. I really enjoyed it.

384 tnguitarist  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:24:34am

I was perusing the bottom comments (as I always do first thing) and it made me wonder; why do trolls seem to have such trouble using the 'reply' and 'quote' functions?

385 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:24:42am

re: #382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I love my fairly small yard and really fast lawnmower.

I've got a large lawn and a slow mower. But I've learned to value my lawn-mowing as my 'off-the-computer' time.

386 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:24:46am

re: #379 Gus 802

And with that I'm personally going to put Mark Halperin's little escapade into my nontroversy box.

Yeah, I'm not worked up about it either.

387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:24:50am

re: #377 tnguitarist

Do I know you?
/

388 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:25:20am

#384.
I don't know.
/

389 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:26:22am

re: #384 tnguitarist

I was perusing the bottom comments (as I always do first thing) and it made me wonder; why do trolls seem to have such trouble using the 'reply' and 'quote' functions?


Too many moving parts.

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:26:27am

re: #384 tnguitarist

I was perusing the bottom comments (as I always do first thing) and it made me wonder; why do trolls seem to have such trouble using the 'reply' and 'quote' functions?

Well, we have an adage; "Don't quote the trolls."

To them? We're trolls, so they're just following the rule.
/

391 tnguitarist  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:27:00am

re: #387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Do I know you?
/

Life's been busy.

392 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:27:08am

re: #383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oooh! Nice!

Just finished "Under the Dome" by King. I really enjoyed it.

Long book to read, eh?
/

393 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:27:56am

re: #392 Cannadian Club Akbar

Long book to read, eh?
/

As much as I enjoy some of King's work, it does seem as though he's paid by the word sometimes.

394 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:30:14am

Wow. I went off to deal with the real world, and we're up to 392 comments. Seems I missed a lot, too.

395 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:30:59am

re: #393 makeitstop

As much as I enjoy some of King's work, it does seem as though he's paid by the word sometimes.

It was a dark and stormy night. I hear a sound. I'll go look. OH NOES!! Stab, stab stab. The End.

396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:31:31am

re: #385 makeitstop

I've got a large lawn and a slow mower. But I've learned to value my lawn-mowing as my 'off-the-computer' time.

You're like "Dr. Nayland-Smith" (Peter Sellers) in "The Fiendish Plot of Dr. Fu Manchu".

Hi character always pushing around a push mower.

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:32:08am

re: #392 Cannadian Club Akbar

Long book to read, eh?
/

Listened to it in my car on CD. 30 CD's long.

398 Gus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:34:03am

I better get some work done before it warms up leading to another state of being FUBAR here. Bad enough I have to deal with "la loca".

Later.

399 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:34:24am

re: #395 Cannadian Club Akbar

It was a dark and stormy night. I hear a sound. I'll go look. OH NOES!! Stab, stab stab. The End.

You should contact Cliff's notes. They could use your expertise.

400 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:35:32am

re: #379 Gus 802

It's not a big deal. Should he have done it? No. Will it actually bother Obama one bit? No.

In the litany of accusations against Obama-- Marxist, usurper, warmonger, sociopath, seekrit Muslim-- 'dick' falls a little flat.

401 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:36:24am

re: #400 Obdicut

'dick' falls a little flat.

So to speak.
/

402 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:36:50am

Wow. Where do I even start with Pamela Geller's statement about the EDL?

I've never seen such a load of utter crap in my life. And she has the unmitigated gall to say "the EDL has done a Charles Johnson." Unbelievable.

403 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:38:05am

re: #400 Obdicut

It's not a big deal. Should he have done it? No. Will it actually bother Obama one bit? No.

In the litany of accusations against Obama-- Marxist, usurper, warmonger, sociopath, seekrit Muslim-- 'dick' falls a little flat.

They have meds for that now

404 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:38:50am

re: #403 sattv4u2

They have meds for that now

Dick Flakes?

405 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:39:44am

re: #402 Charles

Wow. Where do I even start with Pamela Geller's statement about the EDL?

I've never seen such a load of utter crap in my life. And she has the unmitigated gall to say "the EDL has done a Charles Johnson." Unbelievable.

Refresh her blog. The EDL just made some platitudes about Israel and Spencer-Geller are willing to kiss and make up.

406 makeitstop  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:41:10am

re: #405 Killgore Trout

Refresh her blog. The EDL just made some platitudes about Israel and Spencer-Geller are willing to kiss and make up.

You're kidding!

That's one gullible woman right there.

407 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:41:38am

re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dick Flakes?

I've often wondered if anyone in the Hertz family was named Richard

408 recusancy  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:41:59am

re: #378 prairiefire

Mark Halperin shows his true colors by Calling President Obama a "dick"[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]
He is suspended by MSNBC.

He's shown his true colors well before this. "The Note" is Drudge light.

409 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:42:03am

re: #402 Charles

Wow. Where do I even start with Pamela Geller's statement about the EDL?

I've never seen such a load of utter crap in my life. And she has the unmitigated gall to say "the EDL has done a Charles Johnson." Unbelievable.

Shrieking Harpie: 1 part unmitigated gall, 9 parts crazy

410 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:43:01am

re: #407 sattv4u2

I've often wondered if anyone in the Hertz family was named Richard


8 million google hits

411 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:43:04am

re: #402 Charles

I love the bit about her supposed rejection of the EDL was supposed to be apparent because she hadn't been covering them much recently.

Then today, she covers a comment by their leader, the guy who helped organize an 8/8 protest-- 88 being symbolic of Hitler in the White Power movement.

Good going, Pam.

412 blueraven  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:43:05am

re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dick Flakes?

They're Grrreat!

wait...huh?

413 recusancy  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:44:12am

re: #368 Cannadian Club Akbar

You know who was a Dick?
Nixon.:)

Halperin's dad worked for Nixon.

414 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:44:36am

re: #407 sattv4u2

I've often wondered if anyone in the Hertz family was named Richard

There was a rabbi in Detroit about 40 years ago named Richard Hertz.

415 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:44:57am

re: #406 makeitstop

You're kidding!

That's one gullible woman right there.

She wants to support the nazis very badly and will do anything to convince herself they aren't really fascists. Lionheart really laid it out and even posted his emails with the BNP, fascists and IRA supporters who founded and make up the leadership of the EDL. There's no was to deny they were there from the start.

416 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:51:13am

The point of it all is to be avoid being called Nazi or racist while still spoiuting racist and fascist statements. Some people have it refined to an art...

417 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:52:06am

Is you child fighting against joining a Tea Party? Not hugging their guns enough? Are they pinko commies? They can be fixed!!!!
[Link: www.usnews.com...]

Sheesh.

418 kirkspencer  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:53:03am

re: #355 Alouette

I have never read or watched any part of the "Twilight" franchise so I couldn't begin to gauge the magnitude of suck.

Actually it's worse. Remember, children, that Twilight and True Blood are based on books. Series, actually.

They are not alone. They are part of a genre.

The genre is a mashup of romance and... I was tempted to say horror, but perhaps myth might be better. In this genre are vampires and lycanthropes at a minimum, possibly adding witches and elves and shidhe and all things that go bump in the night exist, and most of them aren't as inimical to humankind as myth would have you believe. And some... I said it's a romance mashup, didn't I? Add vampires and lycanthropes and witches/warlocks and all that where pirates and second son lords and all the other Bad Boy who just needs the Right Woman romances used to fit.

Twilight is actually a subgenre of that. They're Teen Romances.

I don't really want to know this. In my desperate search for pocket money, one of the things I've taken on is editing wannabe authors' drafts prior to submission. This particular genre is sadly popular, and especially susceptible to Mary Sues of both (all if you count crossings) genders.

And it's growing.

420 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:56:18am

re: #418 kirkspencer

Actually it's worse. Remember, children, that Twilight and True Blood are based on books. Series, actually.

They are not alone. They are part of a genre.

The genre is a mashup of romance and... I was tempted to say horror, but perhaps myth might be better. In this genre are vampires and lycanthropes at a minimum, possibly adding witches and elves and shidhe and all things that go bump in the night exist, and most of them aren't as inimical to humankind as myth would have you believe. And some... I said it's a romance mashup, didn't I? Add vampires and lycanthropes and witches/warlocks and all that where pirates and second son lords and all the other Bad Boy who just needs the Right Woman romances used to fit.

Twilight is actually a subgenre of that. They're Teen Romances.

I don't really want to know this. In my desperate search for pocket money, one of the things I've taken on is editing wannabe authors' drafts prior to submission. This particular genre is sadly popular, and especially susceptible to Mary Sues of both (all if you count crossings) genders.

And it's growing.

I used to read romance novels, years ago, but I could never get into the supernatural, occult ones. I stopped reading Nora Roberts when she published a series of novels that were "Harry Potter for middle-aged women."

421 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:57:28am

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I started the "Left Behind" series. But the fifth grade writing style left me a bit nonplussed.

ACK. Two days ago I discovered one of my friends has signed on for LaHaye's Apocalypse. Our conversation...and likely our friendship...ended when he used Sola Fide to justify his line-and-sinker acceptance of the "Left Behind" End Times scenario. I may have set some kind of record for "longest string of profanity preceding the story of King Hezekiah and the Nehushtan."

I am equally chagrin about his aesthetic and spiritual choices....

Couldn't understand what the big fuss was about.

[Schaedenfraude + The Turner Diaries + (JBS conspiracies x Dispensationalism)]^Confirmation Bias
-
[Bible scholarship + respect for Jews + literacy + compassion]

= Left Behind

Or, as Slactivist put it...Pre-Tribulation Porno.


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