Pamela Geller Makes Excuses for Supporting Nazis

Geller is shocked - shocked! - that the English Defence League has Nazis in it
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Pamela Geller has released a ludicrous attempt to distance herself from the extreme right wing English Defence League, the violent gang of racists and neo-Nazis that she’s been defending as “true patriots:” EDL Shake-up - Atlas Shrugs

I was an early supporter of the EDL. I liked who they were and what they were doing. When the EDL first came on the scene, I noted their strong support of Israel: Israeli flags at their rallies, and forthright expressions of solidarity with the Jewish State in its resistance to the same relentless jihad that is advancing in Britain. Almost immediately there came the inevitable charge from the jihad-loving Left that the group was “neo-Nazi,” “neofascist,” “white supremacist,” and more. So I started investigating. I found that they rejected the British National Party’s racial orientation, and that they had members who were Sikhs, Pakistanis, gays and other minorities, and even, eventually, a Jewish division. The idea of pro-Israel neo-Nazis is a myth of the Left, and so the presence of the Jewish division was decisive. I was troubled by the photos of EDL members giving the Nazi salute, but discovered that the EDL was aware of neo-Nazi attempts at infiltration, and had a policy of expelling anyone who expressed any kind of antisemitic or neofascist sentiments. They even refused to allow people to be members of both the EDL and the BNP. So it seemed to me at the time that the EDL was a genuine anti-jihad group, strongly pro-Israel as every legitimate anti-jihad group must be, since Israel is at the front lines of the global jihad, and resolutely rejecting racism and any form of actual neofascism.

However, it has become increasingly clear that the EDL has morphed and diverged from its original course. They now have clearly been infiltrated by the worst kind of influences, something that had successfully staved off for years, and they’re no longer staving it off. Roberta Moore, the leader of the Jewish Division, has broken with the EDL. Perhaps the decentralization of the group or the loose grip Tommy Robinson held on its tether is responsible for this terrible shift in the EDL’s direction — I don’t know. But whatever the case may be, the EDL has done a Charles Johnson. And they are now unrecognizable to me. I am sure regular Atlas readers have noticed that some time ago I stopped covering their events — I was waiting to see how things would shake out. I was waiting to see if the forces of good would recapture the heart and soul of the group. Alas, it was not to be.

It takes an amazing amount of gall to say “the EDL has done a Charles Johnson,” when I’ve been calling out Geller and her crony Robert Spencer for their associations with fascist groups for years. The English Defence League has not “morphed and diverged” from anything. They’ve always been a gang of violent racists, with a large number of outright neo-Nazis, and Geller knows this. The bottom line: Geller is friends with them because they hate Muslims. Period. That’s the only thing that matters to her.

Anti-Muslim demagogue Robert Spencer, of course, “agrees wholeheartedly” with Geller’s absurd attempt to make excuses for getting in bed with Nazis: Change for the worse at the EDL - Jihad Watch.

Oh, but wait. It looks like EDL leader Tommy Robinson has issued some more platitudes about Israel — so Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are preparing to kiss and make up with these fascist hooligans again. I guess they didn’t “do a Charles Johnson” after all: TOMMY ROBINSON, EDL CHIEF: “ANY ROGUE ELEMENTS WITHIN THE EDL THAT GO AGAINST OUR MISSION STATEMENT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ORGANIZATION” - Atlas Shrugs.

For reference, here are some images of the people Spencer and Geller have been enthusiastically supporting for years, and are apparently going to continue supporting.

UPDATE at 6/30/11 10:51:34 am

Geller comments on her site, making it clear that the whole time she’s been smearing and vilifying me for pointing out the nature of the EDL, she knew there were neo-Nazis and extremists in the organization:

Pamela Geller said…

This is much bigger than Roberta Moore. It has been going on for some time. I have been warily watching. The EDL needs a purge. I am not going to discuss details so that the enemy has even more ammo.

Reply Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:39 AM

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96 comments
1 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:59:04am

That fat guy really needs to work in a salad once in a while.

2 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:00:17am

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

That fat guy really needs to work in a salad once in a while.

He needs to wear a bro.

3 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:01:08am

Oh dear. She was for the neo-Nazis before she was against them? Or she was against the neo-Nazis before she was for them?

Anyway, Charles "gall" is the woman's middle name.

4 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:01:36am

This part is just a lie:

but discovered that the EDL was aware of neo-Nazi attempts at infiltration, and had a policy of expelling anyone who expressed any kind of antisemitic or neofascist sentiments.

Or rather, if they had such a policy, it was never enforced, and never meant to be. The guy who set up their website was a neonazi who recruited people for the 8/8 (a date chosen to honor Hitler) rally on Stormfront.

Now, Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley Lennon) 'pulled out' of the 8/8 protest after it became too obviously fascist, but in order to pull out of something, you've got to be in there in the first place. Nobody in this nationalistic, fascist area is ignorant of what 8/8 symbolizes. Nobody.

Nobody in the EDL was ignorant of the fact that it had its roots in the openly fascist BNP, either.

5 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:01:46am

I hate English Nazis.

6 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:02:20am

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

That fat guy really needs to work in a salad once in a while.

To quote Preacher:

"Why are the defenders of the white race always the worst examples of it?"

7 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:02:31am

Laid naked: why the wingnuts accuse everyone else of being Nazis.

Because if they stopped doing it for a moment someone might notice that the actual Nazis are lining up, intellectually and physically, with the wingnuts.

What's German for "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"?

8 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:04:57am

re: #6 Obdicut

To quote Preacher:

"Why are the defenders of the white race always the worst examples of it?"

You--where the fuck is your chin?

Preacher. Classic.

9 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:06:08am

re: #4 Obdicut

This part is just a lie:

Or rather, if they had such a policy, it was never enforced, and never meant to be. The guy who set up their website was a neonazi who recruited people for the 8/8 (a date chosen to honor Hitler) rally on Stormfront.

Now, Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley Lennon) 'pulled out' of the 8/8 protest after it became too obviously fascist, but in order to pull out of something, you've got to be in there in the first place. Nobody in this nationalistic, fascist area is ignorant of what 8/8 symbolizes. Nobody.

Nobody in the EDL was ignorant of the fact that it had its roots in the openly fascist BNP, either.

Yup. EDL founder Lionheart spilled the beans on the core leadership of the EDL....
Who really founded the English Defence League?
BNP, Nazis, National Front, etc. He even posts his email communications with them and exposes their attempts to obscure their affiliations. He's still probably a racist dick himself and exposed them because he's bitter about being pushed out.

10 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:06:26am

Yeah, Geller and Spencer are shocked, SHOCKED to find that racists were allowed into the EDL ranks. *rolls eyes*

11 nines09  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:06:55am

Vile woman.

12 Lidane  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:08:16am

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

That fat guy really needs to work in a salad once in a while.

He also needs to be smacked upside the head with a few history books. So do the other ignorant yokels in the EDL.

Wasn't England carpet bombed to hell by the Nazis during WW2? You'd think that people claiming to be hyper-patriotic Englishmen would know that and give a raised middle finger to the Nazis instead of saluting them.

13 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:09:01am

re: #4 Obdicut

This part is just a lie:

Or rather, if they had such a policy, it was never enforced, and never meant to be. The guy who set up their website was a neonazi who recruited people for the 8/8 (a date chosen to honor Hitler) rally on Stormfront.

Now, Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley Lennon) 'pulled out' of the 8/8 protest after it became too obviously fascist, but in order to pull out of something, you've got to be in there in the first place. Nobody in this nationalistic, fascist area is ignorant of what 8/8 symbolizes. Nobody.

Nobody in the EDL was ignorant of the fact that it had its roots in the openly fascist BNP, either.

If they had a policy of expelling neo-Nazis, they wouldn't exist to begin with.

If she cared anything about it, she would have ran away in 2007 when Charles exposed it. But Muslim hate is more important than siding with nazis. #sellout

(Yea, I know you know all that :p)

14 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:09:54am

What? They hate Jews and Muslims? I thought they just hated Muslims! This is going too far!

Oh, wait. They're going back to just hating Muslims? Cool!

15 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:09:56am

re: #12 Lidane

He also needs to be smacked upside the head with a few history books. So do the other ignorant yokels in the EDL.

Wasn't England carpet bombed to hell by the Nazis during WW2? You'd think that people claiming to be hyper-patriotic Englishmen would know that and give a raised middle finger to the Nazis instead of saluting them.

They are Oswald Mosley Englishmen.

16 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:11:17am

re: #12 Lidane

He also needs to be smacked upside the head with a few history books. So do the other ignorant yokels in the EDL.

Wasn't England carpet bombed to hell by the Nazis during WW2? You'd think that people claiming to be hyper-patriotic Englishmen would know that and give a raised middle finger to the Nazis instead of saluting them.

Nothing about the whole "white power" bit has ever struck me as anything but intellectually bankrupt.

17 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:16:30am

re: #16 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nothing about the whole "white power" bit has ever struck me as anything but intellectually bankrupt.

What drives minorities to these people, is my question, if indeed they have Pakistanis, Sikhs and gays, as she claims. And why do minority people lie and cover up for them?

If Stormfront thinks you're the cat's meow (and they love Geller and Malkin too), isn't that like a high sign that you're morally bankrupt?

I can't put it together.

18 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:19:50am

re: #17 marjoriemoon

What drives minorities to these people, is my question, if indeed they have Pakistanis, Sikhs and gays, as she claims. And why do minority people lie and cover up for them?

If Stormfront thinks you're the cat's meow (and they love Geller and Malkin too), isn't that like a high sign that you're morally bankrupt?

I can't put it together.

The shared hate of Muslims is too powerful. Pam thinks Philip Dewinter is a swell guy even though there are pictures of him giving the Nazi salute, But he hates Muslims so Pam thinks he deserves support.

19 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:20:05am

Just noticed this email in my LGF Inbox, titled "Congratulations on being a fucking liar, Charles."

You claim Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are "oddly silent" about the EDL?

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

Pamela Geller:

"Now that the person whom I most trusted in the EDL, Roberta Moore, has
resigned, as she was increasingly uncomfortable with the neo-fascists
that had infiltrated the administration of the group, I too am
withdrawing my support from the EDL. I hope that genuine anti-jihadists
in Britain will also leave the EDL and work with Roberta on starting a
new group that will resist definitively and firmly all attempts to
divert it from its mission of fighting against jihad and for human
rights."

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Robert Spencer:

"Pamela Geller has a statement on the English Defence League with which
I agree wholeheartedly:"

Well? Are you going to publish an update to your dishonest lying crap
story? Or are you incapable of even the slightest bit of honesty?

We're waiting and watching, Little Green Fucktard.

I hope this post qualifies as an "update."

20 Mickey Blumental  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:20:36am

As an Israeli expat I get embarrassed when people like Pamela Geller and organizations like EDL and BNP defend Israel.

Israel has bad enough reputation without this type of "help".

Do you really want to help Israel? Stop talking about it!

21 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:21:27am

re: #18 Killgore Trout

The shared hate of Muslims is too powerful. Pam thinks Philip Dewinter is a swell guy even though there are pictures of him giving the Nazi salute, But he hates Muslims so Pam thinks he deserves support.

Geller and Spencer idolize the EDL because they're taking action -- they go into the streets, provoke riots, and terrorize minorities. This is what they'd like to see happen here in America.

22 AK-47%  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:23:07am

re: #21 Charles

Geller and Spencer idolize the EDL because they're taking action -- they go into the streets, provoke riots, and terrorize minorities. This is what they'd like to see happen here in America.

Those are the actions of a vocal minority group. The trick is to hijack a major political party and mainstream your radical viewpoint to the point of it becomes the essential part of that party's platform...

23 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:23:30am

re: #19 Charles

Just noticed this email in my LGF Inbox, titled "Congratulations on being a fucking liar, Charles."

I hope this post qualifies as an "update."

Well, Charles, you left a mark.

24 Lidane  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:24:43am

re: #16 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nothing about the whole "white power" bit has ever struck me as anything but intellectually bankrupt.

It's both intellectually and morally bankrupt. It makes no goddamn sense.

To riff off something that Henry Rollins said ages ago, skin color, language, religion, sexuality, gender, and the rest are all speed bumps less than an inch high on the road of life. If you can't get over them, there's something seriously fucked up about you.

25 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:25:12am

re: #22 ralphieboy

Those are the actions of a vocal minority group. The trick is to hijack a major political party and mainstream your radical viewpoint to the point of it becomes the essential part of that party's platform...

Hence why they have no problem with Nazi connections, as the Nazi Party is an excellent historical example of mainstreaming hatred of a minority and building political power through doing so.

26 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:25:18am

re: #23 Alouette

Well, Charles, you left a mark.

LOL So Charles points out the Nazis in the Midst and people get mad at HIM. But Pam Geller is righteous! Alrighty then!

27 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:31:38am

re: #23 Alouette

Well, Charles, you left a mark.

He's actually responsible for the entire brouhaha:

[...]Then, CJ broke with the center-right members still on his forum, expelled them all, and turned LGF into a hard-left blog that amounts to a paranoid and sinister online cult. Hardly anybody from 2007 or before is still there.

Now it seems to have started up all over again, and CJ is using one disaffected individual to attempt to split up and attack the counterjihad in the UK. LINK

Considering that CJ smears the Serbs in much the same way, I'll never believe anything he says unless it meets a far higher standard of independent verification than I would require from any normal person. Which CJ is NOT.

That's a comment at Pam's sewer from someone who has shown himself to be a racist over and over on many sites and on Twitter. A stalker and bigot, who used to comment here.

Ressearchok called it.

8 researchok Wed, Jun 29, 2011 5:56:42pm

I wonder how long it takes before CJ and LGF are blamed.

For whatever.

28 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:32:02am

Take away all the emblems, insignia, and writing, and one could be forgiven for thinking that second photo belongs in a Hamas family album...

29 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:35:30am

re: #27 wrenchwench

Then, CJ broke with the center-right members still on his forum, expelled them all, and turned LGF into a hard-left blog that amounts to a paranoid and sinister online cult. Hardly anybody from 2007 or before is still there.

Well speaking as a relative newcomer, I for one find the whole idea that we're a paranoid sinister cult laughable and think they need to look in the mirror. Further if this is an example of the types that Charles ditched around 2008, good riddance.

30 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:36:39am

Oh and if this is a hard-left online paranoid cult then where are my nike's and black sweats? Are we officially on George Soros' payroll yet? If so where's my check?

31 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:36:55am

re: #27 wrenchwench

Hardly anybody from 2007 or before is still there.

What am I, chopped liver?

32 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:37:45am

Wait...so those weren't just twirly jesus crosses tattooed on their chests? No wonder she's surprised.

33 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:38:09am

re: #31 Alouette

What am I, chopped liver?

You don't matter because you don't

A) Hate Obama enough
B) Hate Muslims enough
C) don't attend Tea Party rallies
D) don't think Hitler was just misunderstood.

34 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:38:32am
The idea of pro-Israel neo-Nazis is a myth of the Left, and so the presence of the Jewish division was decisive. I was troubled by the photos of EDL members giving the Nazi salute...However, it has become increasingly clear that the EDL has morphed and diverged from its original course. They now have clearly been infiltrated by the worst kind of influences, something that had successfully staved off for years

But obviously all the Nazi salutes were "a myth of the left."

//

35 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:38:35am

re: #31 Alouette

What am I, chopped liver?

I'll bet your great on white bread with a little mustard.

36 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:39:32am

re: #19 Charles

Well? Are you going to publish an update to your dishonest lying crap story? Or are you incapable of even the slightest bit of honesty?

We're waiting and watching, Little Green Fucktard.

I hope this post qualifies as an "update."

Sheesh, Charles, are you & LGF insignificant or not??

Make up your mind already. ///

37 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:39:33am

re: #35 darthstar

I'll bet your great on white bread with a little mustard.

White bread w/mayo.

Rye bread w/mustard.

Pumpernickel w/spicy mustard

Get your food memes right.

38 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:39:36am

re: #32 darthstar

Wait...so those weren't just twirly jesus crosses tattooed on their chests? No wonder she's surprised.

See those were just fine and dandy crosses but they were done by an spasmatic tattoo artist and he just happened to suffer a spasm at the tip of each point.

39 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:41:27am

re: #37 Alouette

White bread w/mayo.

Rye bread w/mustard.

Pumpernickel w/spicy mustard

Get your food memes right.

I like bread...minus the mayo they all sound good to me.

40 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:41:55am

re: #29 dreggas

I speak as someone who's been here since just after 9/11 - and was here pre-registration - and Charles hasn't tolerated hate filled bile and diatribes for as long as I've been here. Since registration, it became even easier for him to boot those folks from the site and to expunge that kind of craziness.

And I still consider myself center-right.

Some folks went into meltdown mode following Charles' exposure of the right wing lunatics in Europe and how Pam and Robert were busy cozying up to them. Charles warned 'em, but they not only paid him no heed, but they openly ridiculed and derided him and smeared him on a whole host of sites.

Charles was right to stick to his principles, and he's been right on the mark when it comes to the EDL, the VB and other neo Nazi influences in Europe that are hoping for legitimacy through obfuscating their origins and true nature.

And for what it's worth, one can still be anti-jihadist without being anti-Muslim; for one thing, the jihadis still inflict more damage on their fellow Muslims than they do anyone else.

41 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:41:58am

re: #27 wrenchwench

Ressearchok called it.

I was thinking the same thing in the wee hours of the morning when I first saw KT's post about this.

42 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:42:15am

re: #29 dreggas

Well speaking as a relative newcomer, I for one find the whole idea that we're a paranoid sinister cult laughable and think they need to look in the mirror. Further if this is an example of the types that Charles ditched around 2008, good riddance.

Personally, I think it laughable that they're trying to portray themselves as "center-right," when they're ideologically to the right of Genghis Khan.

43 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:42:17am

re: #39 darthstar

I like bread...minus the mayo they all sound good to me.

Mayoist

44 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:43:30am

re: #43 sattv4u2

Mayoist

Chairman of the cutting board eh?

45 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:43:37am

re: #42 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Personally, I think it laughable that they're trying to portray themselves as "center-right," when they're ideologically to the right of Genghis Khan.

Genghis Khan was actually a liberal in his day.

46 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:44:20am

re: #44 lawhawk

Chairman of the cutting board eh?

Frank Sinatra was a Mayoist?

47 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:44:57am

re: #45 Alouette

Genghis Khan was actually a liberal in his day.

Hell, he had freedom of religion throughout his empire-- and exempted religious places and leaders from taxation.

48 Lidane  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:45:59am

re: #29 dreggas

Well speaking as a relative newcomer, I for one find the whole idea that we're a paranoid sinister cult laughable and think they need to look in the mirror.

I'm not paranoid and sinister. I'm tired. These days, with my crazy work schedule, it's mostly physical exhaustion, but there's plenty of mental exhaustion too.

I'm tired of the bigots, religious fanatics, and homophobes driving the Republican party into the ground. I'm tired of the teabaggers and their idiocy. I'm tired of wingnuts like Bachmann, Cain, Santorum, Palin, and Luap Nor being treated like serious political figures or like they have any substance. I'm tired of the racists driving the immigration debate and going after anyone who speaks Spanish. I'm tired of the anti-intellectual, anti-science, anti-reason strain on the right that would make our kids dumber and less competitive on the world stage if they had their way. In short, I'm just tired of everything I'm seeing on the right these days.

Are the left perfect? Hell no. There are plenty of whiny, bitchy moonbats and idiots I can do without. But they're leagues better than what I see on the right. I couldn't be a Republican these days. The party is in a shambles, and it's a reactionary joke. Thanks, but no.

Further if this is an example of the types that Charles ditched around 2008, good riddance.

Seriously. They're no great loss.

49 SpaceJesus  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:47:24am

Pam, the EDL and their cohorts are fascist-filled fascists with fascist coating

50 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:48:01am

Oh, this is delicious...yeah...I'd pay 9 million for my own election too if I was due a 10 million in "deferred compensation"...oh, wait...that wasn't written on paper? That could be problematic:

Election lawyers and reporters have raised questions about the similar amounts and whether the company, not Johnson, was underwriting his campaign. The apparent lack of a written deferred compensation agreement signed and dated before the election is problematic, experts tell TPM.


Then again, it could be a simple misunderstanding. Companies often make verbal agreements for the tens of millions with people going into public office...less paperwork that way.

51 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:49:58am

re: #29 dreggas

Well speaking as a relative newcomer, I for one find the whole idea that we're a paranoid sinister cult laughable and think they need to look in the mirror.

...not a paranoid sinister cult?

...should have clarified that before I put the downpayment on all those black cockerels and pig blood.

I think I can re-task the basalt altar as a coffee table.

52 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:50:09am

re: #36 CuriousLurker

Sheesh, Charles, are you & LGF insignificant or not??

Make up your mind already. ///

Of course, they're going take screenshots of this post and any comments I make, and analyze them obsessively to find the sinister lies therein, in order to prove how irrelevant and small but nonetheless evil I am.

53 Targetpractice  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:50:53am

re: #45 Alouette

Genghis Khan was actually a liberal in his day.

It's just a sayin'! Sheesh, cut me some slack!

//

54 darthstar  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:52:27am

re: #52 Charles

Of course, they're going take screenshots of this post and any comments I make, and analyze them obsessively to find the sinister lies therein, in order to prove how irrelevant and small but nonetheless evil I am.

You should tweet Geller a picture of RSM (aka a penis). Laugh at her, fuck with her, but don't buy into her anger. In fact, the more you laugh at her the more unhinged she will become.

55 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:53:10am

re: #52 Charles

but nonetheless evil I am.

See!1!! He said it himself right there!!!1! The mask slips!1!

Those exclamation points look especially meaningful in Comic Sans.

56 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:55:27am

There is a co-worker who has made Comic Sans her default font in MS Outlook. I have a problem taking any of her emails seriously.

57 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:55:31am

re: #45 Alouette

Genghis Khan was actually a liberal in his day.

The Mongols were the first socialists in China. Look at all the redistribution of wealth they carried out...
/

58 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:58:05am

re: #47 Obdicut

Hell, he had freedom of religion throughout his empire-- and exempted religious places and leaders from taxation.

Another thing I read about Genghis Khan, his DNA is apparently widespread throughout Asia and Europe.

59 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:58:21am

re: #56 Alouette

There is a co-worker who has made Comic Sans her default font in MS Outlook. I have a problem taking any of her emails seriously.

But it's apparently easier to remember them.

60 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 9:58:43am

Arrrgh, work. BBL

61 avanti  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:01:31am

Finally, a movie made by Tea Party conservatives to counter the lefties. If it does not get a Academy award, it's because of the pinko's in Hollywood that ignore the magnificent acting and direction. /s Here's the exciting trailer:

Tea Party movie

62 laZardo  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:01:40am

Headan to bed. Nighty.

63 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:02:28am

re: #54 darthstar

I do have a picture of my junk that I'd like to share with everyone. Excuse me while I whip this out:

Image: myjunk.jpg

64 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:03:30am
It takes an amazing amount of gall to say “the EDL has done a Charles Johnson,” when I’ve been calling out Geller and her crony Robert Spencer for their associations with fascist groups for years. The English Defence League has not “morphed and diverged” from anything. They’ve always been a gang of violent racists, with a large number of outright neo-Nazis, and Geller knows this. The bottom line: Geller is friends with them because they hate Muslims. Period. That’s the only thing that matters to her.

Agreed. I'm just speechless -

65 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:03:59am

re: #63 Charles

I do have a picture of my junk that I'd like to share with everyone. Excuse me while I whip this out:

Image: myjunk.jpg

Man, that's long.

66 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:04:22am

re: #65 Obdicut

look at those veins

67 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:05:09am

re: #65 Obdicut

Man, that's long.


..and kinky...

68 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:05:13am

re: #63 Charles

I do have a picture of my junk that I'd like to share with everyone. Excuse me while I whip this out:

Image: myjunk.jpg

kinky!

69 Obdicut  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:05:16am

re: #66 Dreggas

I think i see the male-to-female connector in there.

/young geeks aren't even going to get that one.

70 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:05:18am

re: #66 Dreggas

look at those veins

ew, QUIT IT!

71 Fenris  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:05:35am

It's very telling that the EDL would feel a need to establish a "Jewish division." In any other situation, you'd expect Geller to compare it to a Judenrat.

72 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:05:44am

re: #68 sattv4u2

kinky!

...too slow...

73 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:06:35am

re: #63 Charles

It just isn't the same as this.

74 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:07:01am

re: #69 Obdicut

I think i see the male-to-female connector in there.

/young geeks aren't even going to get that one.

In my line of work, we even use F to F as well as M to M connectors

75 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:07:16am

re: #72 reloadingisnotahobby

...too slow...

old thumbs

76 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:08:27am

Thunder storm just rolled thru..Central Utah and the WIND SUCKS!!
...otherwise another beautiful day!!
I'm on call for the holiday weekend!CRAP!

77 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:09:19am

re: #73 lawhawk

It just isn't the same as this.

I screamed.

78 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:11:47am

re: #76 reloadingisnotahobby

Thunder storm just rolled thru..Central Utah and the WIND SUCKS!!
...otherwise another beautiful day!!
I'm on call for the holiday weekend!CRAP!

ALWAYS on call when I'm not on the schedule

BUT ,,

I am on the schedule for 12 hours on the 4th

(as well as the 3rd and 5th)

oh ,, joy

79 BongCrodny  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:13:59am

re: #6 Obdicut

To quote Preacher:

"Why are the defenders of the white race always the worst examples of it?"


Favorite comic book of all time.

Wub.

80 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:14:21am

re: #78 sattv4u2
Hard to plan any fun activities around that!!
My favorite lake has NO PHONE SERVICE!!
Most issues that come up can be dealt with over the Phone...
The price for living in paradise....

81 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:16:14am

re: #76 reloadingisnotahobby

I thought the wind Blew?

82 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:16:24am

re: #80 reloadingisnotahobby

Hard to plan any fun activities around that!!
My favorite lake has NO PHONE SERVICE!!
Most issues that come up can be dealt with over the Phone...
The price for living in paradise...

Yeah,, my son and wife will go over a friends house right on a lake for the day

I'm working midnight to noon on the 4th, will go home for 5-6 hours of sleep, go over the friends house early evening for somethin g to eat and watch the fireworks then head straight into work from there

83 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:17:44am

re: #81 Dreggas

I thought the wind Blew?

Tornadoes suck. Hurricanes blow.

84 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:20:12am

re: #82 sattv4u2
Utah lifted the ban on aerial fire works so....I'm sure the all volunteer
F.D. will be busy!!

85 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 10:51:46am

Geller comments on her site, making it clear that the whole time she's been smearing and vilifying me for pointing out the nature of the EDL, she knew there were neo-Nazis and extremists in the organization:

Pamela Geller said...

This is much bigger than Roberta Moore. It has been going on for some time. I have been warily watching. The EDL needs a purge. I am not going to discuss details so that the enemy has even more ammo.

Reply Thursday, June 30, 2011 at 10:39 AM

86 What, me worry?  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 11:08:09am

re: #85 Charles

Geller comments on her site, making it clear that the whole time she's been smearing and vilifying me for pointing out the nature of the EDL, she knew there were neo-Nazis and extremists in the organization:

Sometimes I think I'll start screaming and never stop.

First comment there now.

It was always a problem. Though what Moore says I take with a grain of salt. I never supported the idea of a Jewish division in the EDL.

If a Jew wants to join, fine..Join because (s)he is English not because of being a Jew. Moore demanded that Jews openly support the EDL as Jews. An idea I always opposed.

Whatever makes you sleep better at night, babe.

This person goes on to comment about Israeli flags flying with the EDL. We don't have ENOUGH trouble with the definition of Zionism. In a very short amount of time, the word has been twisted to mean racism and now you have these traitors, these Jews associating with the EDL and reinforcing these terrible lies about our own people. Don't they have a conscious?

It's a small amount of Jews in the EDL, maybe a few dozen? But they will be pushed out front to represent the rest of us. Makes me want to puke.

87 Lidane  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 11:23:36am

re: #85 Charles

She knew but she didn't care because they hate Muslims too. That's what it all comes down to in the end.

She sold out because of her Islamopphobia and now it's biting her in the ass.

88 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:15:11pm

re: #5 laZardo

I hate English Nazis.

Those guys granddads and great-granddads kicked the real Nazi's Nazi asses. Why are they playacting at being history's evil and pathetic losers?

89 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:16:03pm

re: #10 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, Geller and Spencer are shocked, SHOCKED to find that racists were allowed into the EDL ranks. *rolls eyes*

It's a myth of the left, dontcha know.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:17:12pm

re: #20 Udon

As an Israeli expat I get embarrassed when people like Pamela Geller and organizations like EDL and BNP defend Israel.

Israel has bad enough reputation without this type of "help".

Do you really want to help Israel? Stop talking about it!

With friends like these...

91 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:32:51pm

re: #86 marjoriemoon

This person goes on to comment about Israeli flags flying with the EDL. We don't have ENOUGH trouble with the definition of Zionism. In a very short amount of time, the word has been twisted to mean racism and now you have these traitors, these Jews associating with the EDL and reinforcing these terrible lies about our own people. Don't they have a conscious?

No thinking person buys it, though. Same for the varying definitions of "Zionism" as "racism" and that kind of crud. Imo, Jews who join groups like EDL reflect only their own bad judgment and aren't related to Zionism or Jewish people as a whole at all. Every group has their jerks, aholes, opportunists and whackjobs.

92 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 12:34:47pm

re: #88 SanFranciscoZionist

Those guys granddads and great-granddads kicked the real Nazi's Nazi asses. Why are they playacting at being history's evil and pathetic losers?

Yeah, same for these idiot children in Serbia, Russia, Eastern Bloc, etc. The self-loathing of some people is boundless.

93 Burr  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 2:20:43pm

"Tommy Robinson" Is really named Stephen Yaxley Lennon and is a former BNP member [Link: www.hopenothate.org.uk...]

Make sure to tell PAM

94 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 2:54:38pm

re: #93 Burr

"Tommy Robinson" Is really named Stephen Yaxley Lennon and is a former BNP member [Link: www.hopenothate.org.uk...]

Make sure to tell PAM

She has no excuse for not knowing. She's been told. Any indication to the contrary is part of the act.

95 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 2:55:13pm

re: #93 Burr

And: Welcome, hatchling.

96 Mickey Blumental  Thu, Jun 30, 2011 5:01:09pm

Geller, the enemy doesn't need any more ammo to prove you're a hate monger lunatic.


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