Iron Man and Sub-Mariner, Issue #1

The first and only issue
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Tonight’s image from the Lizard Collection is an unusual and somewhat rare item: issue #1 of “Iron Man and Sub-Mariner,” published in April 1968. It’s unusual because issue #1 was also the only issue ever published by Marvel Comics under this title, by design.

At this time, Marvel was promoting all of the characters who were in “shared” comic books (Tales to Astonish, Tales of Suspense, and Strange Tales) to their own titles. To resolve the story lines, they put together this one-shot book, with two stories featuring Iron Man and the eternally angst-ridden Prince Namor, with penciling by the great Gene Colan. (An odd publishing strategy, never to be repeated.)

Our copy of this book is in excellent condition, with small flaws on the cover but white pages and brilliant inks throughout.

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For completeness, here’s the back cover, with an ad for Norman Rockwell’s Famous Artists School.

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609 comments
1 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:21:21pm

Tony and Namor! Satire and angst!

2 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:26:25pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Tony and Namor! Satire and angst!

I'm not sure an angst-ridden guy should be hanging around Tony Stark. He'd probably have driven Namor to distraction had they not gone their separate ways.

3 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:28:44pm

Submariner has obviously been shooting steroids

4 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:30:59pm

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5 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:32:37pm

re: #4 Varek Raith

Image: tumblr_lanprdtox21qesfhho1_500.jpg

wrong guy

6 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:33:25pm

re: #5 albusteve

wrong guy

I know.
;)

7 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:35:21pm

re: #6 Varek Raith

I know.
;)

those guys should grow some fur, and webbed feet
OTTERMAN!

8 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:36:42pm

I used to like the cartoon where Aquaman and Aqualad would ride around on seahorses.

As far as powers go, there are a lot better ones than being able to read the minds of fish.

9 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:38:44pm

re: #8 BongCrodny

I used to like the cartoon where Aquaman and Aqualad would ride around on seahorses.

As far as powers go, there are a lot better ones than being able to read the minds of fish.

Mostly blind hatred of tarter sauce.

10 TedStriker  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:39:04pm
For completeness, here’s the back cover, with an ad for Normal Rockwell’s Famous Artists School.

Ahem, Charles...

Lemme guess...fleet of finger, but the spell check goofed?

;-P

11 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:39:53pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

Mostly blind hatred of tarter sauce.

Tarter than what sauce? Tartar?

12 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:40:58pm

re: #11 austin_blue

Tarter than what sauce? Tartar?

SMACK!

13 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:41:12pm

re: #8 BongCrodny

I used to like the cartoon where Aquaman and Aqualad would ride around on seahorses.

As far as powers go, there are a lot better ones than being able to read the minds of fish.

you sit up on your perch in judgment

14 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:41:17pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

ouch.

15 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:41:22pm

re: #11 austin_blue

Tarter than what sauce? Tartar?

Hell, had to ask my wife what relish and mayo is.

16 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:43:30pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

Hell, had to ask my wife what relish and mayo is.

It ain't malt vinegar, bubba!

And DF, quit hitting me! Hurts like hell...

17 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:44:13pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

Hell, had to ask my wife what relish and mayo is.

mayo!
maaayyyooo...
night time come and I want ta go home

18 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:45:07pm

re: #16 austin_blue

It ain't malt vinegar, bubba!

And DF, quit hitting me! Hurts like hell...

Someone opened an "Irish" pub in our town. The Fish and Chips is rolled in cornmeal.

19 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:46:13pm

re: #17 albusteve

mayo!
maaayyyooo...
night time come and I want ta go home

That is *so* racist.

///

(This, apparently the new buzzphrase amongst our yoot. Go figure.)

20 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:46:27pm

re: #17 albusteve

mayo!
maaayyyooo...
night time come and I want ta go home

You're singing my song. For a couple years on the assembly line, I was the tally man.

21 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:47:15pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Someone opened an "Irish" pub in our town. The Fish and Chips is rolled in cornmeal.

Blasphemy!

And if they don't sell Boxties and Murphy's, it's not an Irish pub.

22 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:47:48pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

You're singing my song. For a couple years on the assembly line, I was the tally man.

bananas...I raise them myself

Youtube Video
23 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:51:01pm

Better version:

Youtube Video
24 TedStriker  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:51:22pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Someone opened an "Irish" pub in our town. The Fish and Chips is rolled in cornmeal.

That just sounds wrong...catfish should be rolled in cornmeal, whitefish should be battered.

25 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:54:26pm

re: #24 talon_262

That just sounds wrong...catfish should be rolled in cornmeal, whitefish should be battered.

why should whitefish be battered?...I never did, just fried, salt and pepper and some lemon juice...out in the woods that is...batter is for chefs with a stash of ingrediants

26 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:55:36pm

to batter whitefish is to denounce God

27 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:57:39pm

re: #26 albusteve

to batter whitefish is to denounce God

To serve Fish and Chips "battered" in cornmeal makes Baby Jesus cry.

And you owe him a dollar.

28 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 6:59:07pm

re: #27 austin_blue

Youtube Video
29 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:00:52pm

re: #27 austin_blue

To serve Fish and Chips "battered" in cornmeal makes Baby Jesus cry.

And you owe him a dollar.

well, I'm broke...just like Him
regardless, but you don't batter whitefish, or walleye, or trout....wtf?

30 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:01:04pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

[Video]

That was beautiful, man!

31 albusteve  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:02:39pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

[Video]

that was way cool

32 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:04:59pm

re: #29 albusteve

well, I'm broke...just like Him
regardless, but you don't batter whitefish, or walleye, or trout...wtf?

I think by "whitefish" they were talking about cod and pollock, which are, indeedy-do, much better battered and deep fat-fried.

I'm in complete agreement with you on walleye and trout. A light pan sear in olive oil or butter, a little lime, salt and pepper.

Heaven.

I actually like fresh-water whitefish smoked. Nomnomnoms...

33 TedStriker  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:05:50pm

re: #10 talon_262

Speaking of Norman Rockwell, I noticed that the artist for the ad drew him working on one of his numerous Scout paintings:
Image: growthofaleader.gif

As a Scouter, I love the paintings he did for the organization over his long career; Joseph Csatari's style is lot like Rockwell's (which makes sense, as he studied and worked with Rockwell).

34 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:06:57pm

re: #16 austin_blue

It ain't malt vinegar, bubba!

And DF, quit hitting me! Hurts like hell...

Sorry.

35 lostlakehiker  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:08:24pm

re: #13 albusteve

you sit up on your perch in judgment

Oh no. The thread fishtails, skates on the edge, and conches out in a floundering mess of ichy puns.

36 TedStriker  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:10:35pm

re: #29 albusteve

well, I'm broke...just like Him
regardless, but you don't batter whitefish, or walleye, or trout...wtf?

re: #32 austin_blue

I think by "whitefish" they were talking about cod and pollock, which are, indeedy-do, much better battered and deep fat-fried.

I'm in complete agreement with you on walleye and trout. A light pan sear in olive oil or butter, a little lime, salt and pepper.

Heaven.

I actually like fresh-water whitefish smoked. Nomnomnoms...

Indeed...when I said "whitefish", I was referring to cod and pollock, the fish that are usually battered and deep-fried. Trout, crappie, and other freshwater "whitefish" (not including catfish), an egg wash and a dip in flour with some salt and pepper's fine with me if it's fried

37 TedStriker  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:11:25pm

re: #35 lostlakehiker

Oh no. The thread fishtails, skates on the edge, and conches out in a floundering mess of ichy puns.

Shall I give you the hook now or wait for someone else to reel you in?

38 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:12:00pm

re: #35 lostlakehiker

Oh no. The thread fishtails, skates on the edge, and conches out in a floundering mess of ichy puns.

I'll score that a 5-way.

39 darthstar  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:13:23pm

My Katanas, on my second ride of the morning...snow wasn't bad. I was ready to quit by 10am though...but as I was patrolling, I had to ski until 2pm.
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40 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:15:20pm

re: #35 lostlakehiker

Oh no. The thread fishtails, skates on the edge, and conches out in a floundering mess of ichy puns.

Well, any thread involves a good bit of wrasselin'.

41 Stanghazi  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:15:29pm

re: #39 darthstar

My Katanas, on my second ride of the morning...snow wasn't bad. I was ready to quit by 10am though...but as I was patrolling, I had to ski until 2pm.
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Amazing there's still snow. I love California.

42 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:16:23pm

re: #39 darthstar

Get a hero cam dude. Srsly.

43 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:18:08pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

Amazing there's still snow. I love California.

Hell yes. Get up and away from the concrete and it's all good. Now that we went to Palomar, Anzo Borrego is next on the list. At least over your way. Kinda.

44 TedStriker  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:19:51pm

re: #42 Rightwingconspirator

Get a hero cam dude. Srsly.

I somehow doubt his bosses (or the clientele) would care much for Darth skiing around on-duty with a camera on his head...legal entanglements and all that.

45 Stanghazi  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:20:02pm

re: #43 Rightwingconspirator

Hell yes. Get up and away from the concrete and it's all good. Now that we went to Palomar, Anzo Borrego is next on the list. At least over your way. Kinda.

I used to live closer to Palomar, now I'm downtown basically. If you guys do the air show (with Floral? - by the way, haven't seen her lately) I'm meeting up with you!!!

46 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:23:47pm

re: #44 talon_262

Dunno pretty cool possibilities.

Youtube Video
47 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:24:51pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

I used to live closer to Palomar, now I'm downtown basically. If you guys do the air show (with Floral? - by the way, haven't seen her lately) I'm meeting up with you!!!

Floral is a tad busy in the analog world methinks. Love to go to the air show...

48 Lidane  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:36:33pm

Anyone here use tablet PC's? I'm thinking that when I get a new computer, I'll keep the heavier laptop I've got now for actually typing my papers, keeping my iTunes library and my phone sync, etc. and I'll get a tablet PC of some sort to take with me to work and school.

I just don't know where to start. Any recommendations or advice?

49 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:39:17pm

re: #48 Lidane

Anyone here use tablet PC's? I'm thinking that when I get a new computer, I'll keep the heavier laptop I've got now for actually typing my papers, keeping my iTunes library and my phone sync, etc. and I'll get a tablet PC of some sort to take with me to work and school.

I just don't know where to start. Any recommendations or advice?

She Who Must Be Obeyed got an I-Pad2 about two months ago and swears by it. Very fast, powerful, fantastic graphics and an all-around joy to use.

My $.02, homegirl.

50 darthstar  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:39:47pm

re: #44 talon_262

Eggsactly.

51 darthstar  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:40:35pm

I had a great rescue but I'll share the story later when it's not so recent...

52 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:41:09pm

re: #50 darthstar

Got it. Imp[important and interesting job you have there.

53 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:42:32pm

re: #52 Rightwingconspirator

PIMF

Important I mean. The wine is kicking in I think.

54 darthstar  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:45:33pm

re: #52 Rightwingconspirator

Got it. Imp[important and interesting job you have there.

It's volunteer work...I'm actually an IT manager most of the time (which means I don't do shit but eat lots of tums if shit doesn't get done on time).

55 darthstar  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:46:51pm

re: #53 Rightwingconspirator

PIMF

Important I mean. The wine is kicking in I think.

The wine...I haven't even gotten there yet...still on the bourbon.

56 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:47:19pm

re: #48 Lidane

Anyone here use tablet PC's?

I've tried iPads at the store. For me, a real keyboard is highly desirable. Plus, Apple refuses to admit that humans invented writing tools 5000 years ago because the finger was just not fine tipped enough to make small characters.

57 Tigger2005  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 7:59:38pm

WE'RE NORMAN ROCKWELL'S FAMOUS ARTISTS SCHOOL!
(To the tune of "Ted Baxter's Famous Broadcaster's School")

58 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:04:13pm

re: #57 Tigger2005

WE'RE NORMAN ROCKWELL'S FAMOUS ARTISTS SCHOOL!
(To the tune of "Ted Baxter's Famous Broadcaster's School")

I'd be more inclined to go with "Sgt. Pepper's Lonley Hearts Club Band".

59 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:06:57pm

re: #48 Lidane

We looked hard late last year. Ipad won out. Six months later we are very pleased. Commenting on the blog is quirky though. Auto-correct and the glass keyboard can be annoying. Apart from that, it serves up music and photographs really well. Video too of course.

60 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:12:51pm

Went for a walk this evening... lovely evening. I ventured into new territory and came across a lovely loquat tree... that still had fruit! Sadly the fruit was too far gone (it's past season and hot outside) to be edible. Even more sad is that as I studied the tree it became apparent that the owner left most of the fruit on it to rot - and it was good fruit too, larger in size than most loquat trees (which are highly variable genetically.)

As I surveyed the lot it also became apparent that the owner just couldn't keep up with the place... That's not too unusual as older home owners eventually get to a point where they have to give up on taking care of their place.

Lesson learned - go for longer walks (yes, learnt last time also) earlier in the year.

Came across a beautiful orange tree also. Not one grafted onto dwarf stock, but a full size orange tree, well cared for and watered consistently. Quite a contrast to most of the citrus trees around here, which are grown as dwarfs and usually abandoned to boot.

One can learn quite a bit by just walking around and looking, absorbing the environment.

61 3CPO  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:23:07pm

Mmmmm! Loquats!

Growing up, my neighbor had a loquat tree which produced way more fruit than he could ever consume. We all used to go there and get oodles of them.

Man, that brings back some memories.

62 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:23:35pm

re: #60 freetoken

Went for a walk this evening... lovely evening. I ventured into new territory and came across a lovely loquat tree... that still had fruit! Sadly the fruit was too far gone (it's past season and hot outside) to be edible. Even more sad is that as I studied the tree it became apparent that the owner left most of the fruit on it to rot - and it was good fruit too, larger in size than most loquat trees (which are highly variable genetically.)

As I surveyed the lot it also became apparent that the owner just couldn't keep up with the place... That's not too unusual as older home owners eventually get to a point where they have to give up on taking care of their place.

Where in the southern hemisphere are you? A country code would be fine.

Lesson learned - go for longer walks (yes, learnt last time also) earlier in the year.

Came across a beautiful orange tree also. Not one grafted onto dwarf stock, but a full size orange tree, well cared for and watered consistently. Quite a contrast to most of the citrus trees around here, which are grown as dwarfs and usually abandoned to boot.

One can learn quite a bit by just walking around and looking, absorbing the environment.

63 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:24:23pm

re: #62 austin_blue

Where in the southern hemisphere are you?

64 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:24:51pm

I have a new project in Puako. Two large mango trees on site, we're all stealing them as they get ripe. Really good mangos, sort of a 'milky' mango flavor.

65 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:24:55pm

re: #63 austin_blue

Where in the southern hemisphere are you?

San Diego.

66 Stanghazi  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:25:00pm

re: #59 Rightwingconspirator

We looked hard late last year. Ipad won out. Six months later we are very pleased. Commenting on the blog is quirky though. Auto-correct and the glass keyboard can be annoying. Apart from that, it serves up music and photographs really well. Video too of course.

Auto correct is the devil.

67 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:25:26pm

re: #48 Lidane

Anyone here use tablet PC's? I'm thinking that when I get a new computer, I'll keep the heavier laptop I've got now for actually typing my papers, keeping my iTunes library and my phone sync, etc. and I'll get a tablet PC of some sort to take with me to work and school.

I just don't know where to start. Any recommendations or advice?

* Wait 6 months if you can
* Don't buy anything made by Motorola
* If you buy an Apple or Microsoft product, never forget that you don't actually own it.

68 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:25:38pm

Did anyone notice?

US Rep. McCotter officially announces White House run at Michigan Independence Day event

69 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:25:58pm

re: #60 freetoken

Went for a walk this evening... lovely evening. I ventured into new territory and came across a lovely loquat tree... that still had fruit! Sadly the fruit was too far gone (it's past season and hot outside) to be edible. Even more sad is that as I studied the tree it became apparent that the owner left most of the fruit on it to rot - and it was good fruit too, larger in size than most loquat trees (which are highly variable genetically.)

As I surveyed the lot it also became apparent that the owner just couldn't keep up with the place... That's not too unusual as older home owners eventually get to a point where they have to give up on taking care of their place.

Lesson learned - go for longer walks (yes, learnt last time also) earlier in the year.

Came across a beautiful orange tree also. Not one grafted onto dwarf stock, but a full size orange tree, well cared for and watered consistently. Quite a contrast to most of the citrus trees around here, which are grown as dwarfs and usually abandoned to boot.

One can learn quite a bit by just walking around and looking, absorbing the environment.

We have an elderly neighbor, as well, who can no longer keep up her 3-acre property.

The Roi goes over there once or twice a week when he's home, mows the grass, cuts limbs, etc. Just a thought - it sounds as if you may have a neighbor who could use a helping hand as well.

70 3CPO  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:29:34pm

re: #65 freetoken

We'll be in San Diego in a couple of weeks. Do you have a favorite restaurant or activity you can recommend? (Other than walking and loquat-regretting?)

71 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:30:36pm

re: #69 reine.de.tout

Wasn't really a "neighbor" as the place is probably 1.5 miles away. It was a neighborhood in which I normally don't walk but decided to this time. That area is quite mixed in population, lots of older people but also young'uns as well as some apartment buildings.

However, your idea reminds me of a friend of mine who used to do that where he lives - helped a quite elderly neighbor keep up with things.

Around me... mostly younger home owners or apartments or mixed-use (churches, schools, etc.)

72 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:31:02pm

re: #70 3CPO

Have you been to SD before?

And, who is "we"? Children?

73 Lidane  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:31:16pm

re: #67 negativ

* Wait 6 months if you can
* Don't buy anything made by Motorola
* If you buy an Apple or Microsoft product, never forget that you don't actually own it.

I'm in no immediate rush. It's just a thought in the back of my head for now. I have a laptop at work that the company lets me use, and the one I have at home is good enough to store my music, write my school papers and projects, and allows me to finish whatever work projects I need to, since both computers have Windows 7 on them.

I just like the idea of getting a tablet PC somewhere down the line, maybe before SXSW next year, since it would be way convenient. That's why I'm asking for advice now, so I have an idea of what's good, what sucks, and everything in between.

74 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:31:20pm

bre: #59 Rightwingconspirator

We looked hard late last year. Ipad won out. Six months later we are very pleased. Commenting on the blog is quirky though. Auto-correct and the glass keyboard can be annoying. Apart from that, it serves up music and photographs really well. Video too of course.

My 75 year old father first picked up a very nice 15" aluminum G4 Powerbook at University surplus. Very nice machine, runs 10.5 just fine. But that was too complicated for him and he hated trying to use it. His 9 year old Grandson now enjoys making stop motion animation with daddy's digicam and iMovie on it :D

Grandpa got himself an iPad and is enjoying it a whole lot more. Funny to actually get an email from my non-techie dad :LOL:

75 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:31:45pm

re: #68 freetoken

Did anyone notice?

US Rep. McCotter officially announces White House run at Michigan Independence Day event

No, nobody. Also nobody's noticing that Palin's bus tour which she insisted was not cancelled is still cancelled. Massive malaise continues for the Republican party.

76 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:32:22pm

re: #68 freetoken

Did anyone notice?

US Rep. McCotter officially announces White House run at Michigan Independence Day event

My first thought was, seriously, "Who?"

77 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:32:44pm

Fox is going after Media Matters in an expose program.

78 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:33:50pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

No, nobody. Also nobody's noticing that Palin's bus tour which she insisted was not cancelled is still cancelled. Massive malaise continues for the Republican party.

I think they need a cardigan and a rocking chair by the fireplace ...

;)

79 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:35:19pm

the stalkers at Blogmocracy briefly posted a thread lambasting Crazy Pam for not wanting to align with Nazis. Now deleted.

80 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:36:56pm

Oh, RWC, picked up my own new to me toy the other day - beat up but solid Winchester 94 carbine in .30-30. I can't wait to get to the range to try it out. Going to be hard to decide what to take to deer season this fall.

81 3CPO  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:37:23pm

re: #72 freetoken

I went to the San Diego Zoo when I was 7. That was my only visit.

I'm going with my husband. We'll be there for a week while he attends some counter-terrorism conference thing. We're in our mid-forties, if that helps...

82 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:38:35pm

Irony Meter blowed up: Fox lists graphic showing total stories.

2,670 Fox News
66 MSNBC
xx CBS

Fox News person "Does Media Matters have an issue with balance?"

lulz. Maybe Fox News has an issue with it's reporting.

83 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:38:47pm

re: #68 freetoken

Did anyone notice?

US Rep. McCotter officially announces White House run at Michigan Independence Day event

McCotter, who's also a guitarist, performed with his band at the event.


I'm thinking the next trademark violation case is due in three...two...one...

84 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:38:59pm

re: #80 wlewisiii

Now that is a fun rifle. Have a ball.

85 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:40:09pm

re: #32 austin_blue

I actually like fresh-water whitefish smoked. Nomnomnoms...

I introduced a friend of mine to whitefish salad bagel, with tomato.

For trout, I do butterflied gomasio trout -

1 butterflied trout
1 garlic clove, chopped
1 1/2 tbsp Gomasio - toasted sesame/sea salt/fine seaweed mix, can get at a gourmet store with an Asian foods section, or Japanese grocer
2 tsp Soy sauce, Japanese brand preferred
Olive oil to drizzle
Sesame oil to finish

Preheat oven to 325 (I put this in the toaster oven, broiler setting, on tin foil - works great)
Rinse the butterflied trout and dry with paper towel
With a fork, poke the inside flesh all over
Rub the chopped garlic all over
Brush the soy sauce on
Sprinkle the trout with gomasio
Brush on olive oil
Broil for about 20 minutes at 325.

Finish with a dash of sesame oil, serve with a sauteed green vege like spinach or baby bok choy, and cooked/steamed rice.

87 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:41:14pm

re: #85 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Sounds fucking delicious.

88 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:43:20pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

No, nobody. Also nobody's noticing that Palin's bus tour which she insisted was not cancelled is still cancelled. Massive malaise continues for the Republican party.

And none of them are raising much money.

Here's an interesting opinion piece out of Dallas.

Trust me, he's running. And he will be a load for the rest of the GOP:

[Link: www.charlotteobserver.com...]

89 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:43:58pm

re: #68 freetoken

Did anyone notice?

US Rep. McCotter officially announces White House run at Michigan Independence Day event

Youtube Video
90 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:44:07pm

re: #85 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That sounds great. Favourited.

91 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:44:09pm

re: #68 freetoken

Did anyone notice?

US Rep. McCotter officially announces White House run at Michigan Independence Day event

Welcome back, McCotter.

92 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:44:45pm

re: #79 Killgore Trout

the stalkers at Blogmocracy briefly posted a thread lambasting Crazy Pam for not wanting to align with Nazis. Now deleted.

I think that even they realized that wasn't a smart position to take. Blogmocracy has maintained that it does not permit anti-Semitism (and one commentator was actually banned for it), so to go after Pam would have contradicted their previous positions entirely. They were still wrong to put the thread up, of course, but they'll just call "Kalegore" for bringing it up. Even when their better impulses win out, the butthurt is still far stronger than reason there.

94 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:46:14pm

re: #77 BigPapa

Fox is going after Media Matters in an expose program.

Good! Maybe they will explain exactly how many hours of Glenn Beck I should have to endure before I can understand his comment equating Reform Judaism and radical Islam "in context".

95 Lidane  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:48:13pm

re: #94 bratwurst

Good! Maybe they will explain exactly how many hours of Glenn Beck I should have to endure before I can understand his comment equating Reform Judaism and radical Islam "in context".

Do what now? How is that even possible? That's like equating Wicca and fundamentalist Christianity "in context".

96 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:48:48pm

re: #95 Lidane

Do what now? How is that even possible? That's like equating Wicca and fundamentalist Christianity "in context".

She's a witch!!

97 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:49:50pm

she turned me into a newt!

98 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:49:52pm

re: #68 freetoken

Did anyone notice?

US Rep. McCotter officially announces White House run at Michigan Independence Day event

I noticed. Some day, I'll get around to adding him to the EY'12 blogroll, if I can remember to go find his website. Sounds like just another whiny, snivelling con, though.

99 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:50:36pm

re: #81 3CPO


I'm going with my husband.

Guess I'll skip my recommendations for Tijuana brothels, then...

Straight scoop on beaches - they'll be crowded at this time of year.

Best view (and photo op) of San Diego - is from Cabrillo National Monument at the end of Point Loma. The Navy controls the gate to road onto the sound end of the Point and I don't know what the closing hours are now, but they used to keep it open later in summer.

Personally I prefer the mountains and deserts to the beaches, but if you husband is cooped up in a meeting during the day it'll be hard for you to get out that far east during daylight.

The downtown area is packed full of restaurants, but I've not really scouted the place in years. My favorite sushi place used to be down there but it is closed now. Parking is hard to find on the weekends, but during the weekdays one can conceivably find parking downtown... beware of night time baseball games though.

An evening walk for you two in downtown La Jolla, by the sea, would probably be a romantic occasion - very common to see couples down there. Expensive restaurants in the area.

100 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:50:55pm

re: #94 bratwurst

Good! Maybe they will explain exactly how many hours of Glenn Beck I should have to endure before I can understand his comment equating Reform Judaism and radical Islam "in context".

Lol I love it when whackodoodle Christians try and comment on other religions. Hilarity usually ensues. So long as they're not talking about eliminating them. :/

101 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:51:10pm

re: #99 freetoken

pimf "south end of Point..."

102 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:51:18pm

re: #97 wlewisiii

she turned me into a newt!

A newt?

103 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:52:11pm

I got better.

104 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:52:13pm

re: #100 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Lol I love it when whackodoodle Christians try and comment on other religions. Hilarity usually ensues. So long as they're not talking about eliminating them. :/

Radical Islamists are just as clueless, only they are far more likely to be calling for violence so its less funny,

105 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:52:33pm

re: #98 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Did you see his wiki?

Party leadership and caucus memberships

House Sovereignty Caucus (Co-Founder)
International Conservation Caucus
Republican House Policy Committee (Chairman)
Sportsmen's Caucus

Shortly before the midterm elections in November 2006, McCotter made a $250,000 contribution to the National Republican Congressional Committee. After the elections, when the Republicans had become the minority party in the House of Representatives, McCotter sought the Chairmanship of the House Republican Policy Committee. The other Republican seeking the post was Congressman Darrell Issa of southern California. In late 2006, McCotter was selected by the House Republican Caucus to head the Republican Policy Committee.
[edit] Political positions

McCotter is a member of both the moderate Republican Main Street Partnership and the conservative Republican Study Committee.

In May 2007, House Minority Leader John Boehner labeled a bill by House Democrats aimed at stopping energy price gouging "as pointless political pandering."[2] McCotter and 55 other Republicans voted for the bill.

McCotter has been an avid supporter of the United States' involvement in the Iraq War. His continued support for the war has led to some community protest. Several groups have joined together under the banner of "Americans Against Escalation in Iraq" to pressure him into voting to end the war. On July 5, 2007, forty of the 662,563 members of his district staged a press conference and a demonstration in front of the congressman's office.[citation needed] Organizers also promised to hold a three-day vigil called "Take a Stand Day" on August 28 in order to convince McCotter that his constituents wanted him to end the war and bring the troops home safely. In late fall 2007, opponents of McCotter hold weekly vigils outside of his Milford office in Oakland County to protest his consistent support of President George W. Bush's policies in Iraq.

On September 22, 2008, McCotter became the first Republican in the House of Representatives to oppose the Paulson bailout plan, calling it "American socialism." A week later, he and 132 other Republicans voted against the $700 billion bailout bill.

A July 24, 2009, press release from McCotter's House website states that McCotter will introduce a House Resolution on July 27, 2009, calling on President Obama to apologize to police Sergeant James Crowley for his remarks about the latter's arresting Harvard Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr. for disorderly conduct on July 16, 2009, if President Obama doesn't first issue an apology on his own.[3]

On November 7, 2009, McCotter voted against the America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, along with all but one of the other Republican Congressmen. The bill passed 220–215.[4]

106 Stanghazi  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:53:19pm

re: #70 3CPO

We'll be in San Diego in a couple of weeks. Do you have a favorite restaurant or activity you can recommend? (Other than walking and loquat-regretting?)

One of the best restaurants, George's on the Cove in La Jolla. The Del Mar Races start 7/20. There's also the zoo, and during summer there's night zoo, go at night the animals are so active!

107 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:54:02pm

re: #94 bratwurst

Good! Maybe they will explain exactly how many hours of Glenn Beck I should have to endure before I can understand his comment equating Reform Judaism and radical Islam "in context".

Bratwurst, don't put your sanity at risk like that. I need you to stay sane. Don't subject yourself to that much Beck, for my sake.

108 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:58:16pm

re: #105 Rightwingconspirator

His positions seem much like John McCain's. By that I mean the John McCain seen up through 2008 and the 2011 McCain, not the 2009-2010 John McCain (who was in many ways an act intended to beat a primary challenge).

109 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 8:58:49pm

re: #91 bratwurst

Welcome back, McCotter.


Has anybody else seen this guy's photo?

McCotter has a higher "nerd" factor than any Presidential candidate with the possible exception of Dennis Kucinich.

Thaddeus McCotter.

110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:00:15pm

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

Radical Islamists are just as clueless, only they are far more likely to be calling for violence so its less funny,

Caveat being, in this country, Beck bigot ass was

111 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:00:37pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

Bratwurst, don't put your sanity at risk like that. I need you to stay sane. Don't subject yourself to that much Beck, for my sake.

Don't worry, I am strictly in it for the LOLZ. I still can't get over how absurdly self-aggrandizing his last show was though. I mean...imagine how big his head would be if he actually did something great!

112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:02:00pm

re: #110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Caveat being, in this country, Beck bigot ass was

Should read:

Caveat being, in this country, Beck's bigot ass was on the payroll of radical Wahhabists Oh well, he's not alone in it.

113 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:02:06pm

re: #109 BongCrodny

Has anybody else seen this guy's photo?

McCotter has a higher "nerd" factor than any Presidential candidate with the possible exception of Dennis Kucinich.

Thaddeus McCotter.

Yeah, we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot.

114 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:02:22pm

re: #110 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Caveat being, in this country, Beck bigot ass was

That was unclear.

115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:02:53pm

re: #109 BongCrodny

Has anybody else seen this guy's photo?

I did. Looks like a dork.

116 laZardo  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:02:56pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

Bratwurst, don't put your sanity at risk like that. I need you to stay sane. Don't subject yourself to that much Beck, for my sake.

It's one of Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs that the channel owners wouldn't let him put on air.

117 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:04:04pm

re: #112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Should read:

Caveat being, in this country, Beck's bigot ass was on the payroll of radical Wahhabists Oh well, he's not alone in it.

Thanks for clearing that up. Still, the fact that a Saudi Oil tick owns part of News Corp. doesn't make Beck as Islamist front man. Rather, his vile rants make him a bigoted asshole. But you already knew that.

118 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:07:25pm

Ah. The night has brought forth it's cooler temps.

Whopper w/cheese - Check
Medium fries - Check
Medium Diet Coke - Check
3 Taco Supremes - Check
Small Tub of Cole Slaw - Check
1 Pack of Smokers - Check
Snickers Bar - Check
Shooter of Jim Beam - Check

119 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:07:51pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Thanks for clearing that up. Still, the fact that a Saudi Oil tick owns part of News Corp. doesn't make Beck as Islamist front man.

No, it makes him just another carnival-barking opportunist, like the rest of the dumb bigots on House of Saud payroll.

Lol I wish him luck with that new please-pay-$5 internet show of his.

120 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:08:20pm

re: #118 Gus 802

Ah. The night has brought forth it's cooler temps.

Whopper w/cheese - Check
Medium fries - Check
Medium Diet Coke - Check
3 Taco Supremes - Check
Small Tub of Cole Slaw - Check
1 Pack of Smokers - Check
Snickers Bar - Check
Shooter of Jim Beam - Check

save those for breakfast

121 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:08:38pm

damn

RE-DO

122 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:08:47pm

re: #118 Gus 802

Ah. The night has brought forth it's cooler temps.

Whopper w/cheese - Check
Medium fries - Check
Medium Diet Coke - Check
3 Taco Supremes - Check
Small Tub of Cole Slaw - Check
1 Pack of Smokers - Check
Snickers Bar - Check
Shooter of Jim Beam - Check


Don't forget the defibrillator!

123 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:09:12pm

re: #118 Gus 802

Ah. The night has brought forth it's cooler temps.

Whopper w/cheese - Check
Medium fries - Check
Medium Diet Coke - Check
3 Taco Supremes - Check
Small Tub of Cole Slaw - Check
1 Pack of Smokers - Check
Snickers Bar - Check
Shooter of Jim Beam - Check

save THOSE for breakfast!

124 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:09:21pm

re: #120 sattv4u2

save those for breakfast

Or save it for prison.

//

125 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:09:40pm

re: #115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I did. Looks like a dork.


Thank you.

126 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:09:48pm

re: #122 BongCrodny

Don't forget the defibrillator!

I'll need my tutu first.

//

127 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:09:55pm

re: #81 3CPO


I'm going with my husband. We'll be there for a week while he attends some counter-terrorism conference thing. We're in our mid-forties, if that helps...

Oh, and if you're looking for something to do during the day while your husband is at the conference:

- Down at the "Old Town" state park, which is very central and easy to locate, is a shopping street that's supposed to recreate 19th century San Diego. It fails at that (it's just another tourist trap), and most of the stores carry the usual cheaply made tourist-trap items, but a couple of the stores also carry hand made goods from local crafts-people, from both here and from Mexico. If you're looking for mementos/gifts that have more authenticity to them I'd suggest trying there.

128 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:11:27pm

re: #105 Rightwingconspirator

Did you see his wiki?

I did. Another poor-me con.

Dork.

129 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:11:33pm

re: #119 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

No, it makes him just another carnival-barking opportunist, like the rest of the dumb bigots on House of Saud payroll.

Lol I wish him luck with that new please-pay-$5 internet show of his.

Moderate Objection: Not all on Fox are bigots. Brit Hume is not, Shepard Smith is not, Greta van Susteren is not, and Chris Wallace is not. Please take care in not casting your net too wide.

130 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:11:39pm

re: #127 freetoken

, from both here and from Mexico.
So it's Wal Mart !?!?!

//

131 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:12:34pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

Moderate Objection: Not all on Fox are bigots. Brit Hume is not, Shepard Smith is not, Greta van Susteren is not, and Chris Wallace is not. Please take care in not casting your net too wide.

True, but they *are* useful idiots for the Teabillies.

132 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:12:55pm

Really. We're doing "lookism" on McCotter? Hmmm.

133 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:13:48pm

re: #132 Gus 802

Hair.

It's not just the name of broadway show - it's important for national level politicians.

134 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:14:14pm

re: #132 Gus 802

Really. We're doing "lookism" on McCotter? Hmmm.


When you look like Ron Howard, you got to be prepared to pay the price.

135 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:15:17pm

re: #133 freetoken

Hair.

It's not just the name of broadway show - it's important for national level politicians.

Don't you mean Republican instead of hair?

136 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:16:15pm

re: #134 BongCrodny

When you look like Ron Howard, you got to be prepared to pay the price.

Could be worse

He could look like Barney Fife!

137 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:17:10pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

Moderate Objection: Not all on Fox are bigots.

The phrase was, "the rest of the dumb bigots on House of Saud payroll", not that everyone on House of Saud payroll is a dumb bigot.

The cast of Glee is on House of Saud payroll, so there is no need to get defensive about Fox Snooze.

138 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:18:29pm

re: #137 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The phrase was, "the rest of the dumb bigots on House of Saud payroll", not that everyone on House of Saud payroll is a dumb bigot.

The cast of Glee is on House of Saud payroll, so there is no need to get defensive about Fox Snooze.

Fine. I misinterpreted your statement. My apologies.

139 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:18:58pm

re: #131 austin_blue

True, but they *are* useful idiots for the Teabillies.

Lol I would say at least two of them round out the "dumb" part of "dumb bigot".

rotfl

Youtube Video
140 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:19:13pm

Bugs! Where's my malathion and DDT?

//

141 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:19:39pm

From Wiki:

McCotter was elected to the Michigan State Senate in 1998. As a State Senator, he helped apportion the U.S. Congressional district from which he was elected in 2002.


How...convenient.

142 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:20:45pm

re: #140 Gus 802

Bugs! Where's my malathion and DDT?

//

should have asked for some when you picked up your McDonalds or Taco Bell stuff

143 3CPO  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:20:51pm

re: #99 freetoken

Thank you!

144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:20:55pm

Saw a woman tonight with a tattoo that started at the top of her butt crack (the jeans were almost low enough to show where they started, so I am making an assumption) went up to her neck in a curve and went back to the other cheek.

Anybody think she'll regret this one? I took a pic with my phone, but it's too large to upload.

No shit.

145 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:21:54pm

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a woman tonight with a tattoo that started at the top of her butt crack (the jeans were almost low enough to show where they started, so I am making an assumption) went up to her neck in a curve and went back to the other cheek.

Anybody think she'll regret this one? I took a pic with my phone, but it's too large to upload.

No shit.

"Grandma,,,, WHAT the FUCK were you smoking back in the day?"

146 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:22:04pm

re: #142 sattv4u2

should have asked for some when you picked up your McDonalds or Taco Bell stuff

Somebody call a whambulance! ;)

//

147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:22:17pm

re: #118 Gus 802

Whopper was my favorite burger.

148 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:22:39pm

re: #142 sattv4u2

should have asked for some when you picked up your McDonalds or Taco Bell stuff


The McDDT...now there was a great sandwich.

149 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:22:54pm

re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whopper was my favorite burger.

Burp!

150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:23:21pm

re: #145 sattv4u2

I think it's wings. But, I'm not sure.

Here, I'll forward it to you. I just have to share it.

151 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:23:42pm

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a woman tonight with a tattoo that started at the top of her butt crack (the jeans were almost low enough to show where they started, so I am making an assumption) went up to her neck in a curve and went back to the other cheek.

Anybody think she'll regret this one? I took a pic with my phone, but it's too large to upload.

No shit.

Get yourself a Flickr account. It's free and once you upload the pic onto Flickr, you can post links to them here.

152 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:25:13pm

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

Moderate Objection: Not all on Fox are bigots. Brit Hume is not, Shepard Smith is not, Greta van Susteren is not, and Chris Wallace is not. Please take care in not casting your net too wide.

Not racist, but #1 with racists.

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:26:20pm

re: #148 BongCrodny

The pu**y's whopper.

I'm just sayin'...

154 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:26:44pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

Get yourself a Flickr account. It's free and once you upload the pic onto Flickr, you can post links to them here.

Or you can just throw it up at imageshack.us

155 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:27:02pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

Not racist, but #1 with racists.

No argument there.

156 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:27:11pm

re: #151 Dark_Falcon

Get yourself a Flickr account. It's free and once you upload the pic onto Flickr, you can post links to them here.


Out of eighty billion photos on the internet, you give him advice on how to post a butt crack tattoo photo?

157 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:27:22pm

Fox News conservatives express their hate towards Native Americans

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

reagan_is_back [Moderator] 23 minutes ago

Who cares? They act as if these sites mean something. There is one Lord and His name is Jesus. These sites have nothing to do with Jesus and are therefore not sacred

___________________________________________________________


BO [Moderator] 19 minutes ago
no big deal. their gods failed them against the west as well. good riddance


___________________________________________________________

muffyroberts [Moderator] 20 minutes ago
No way!

Only the White Man's land can legally be burned by a wildfire!

158 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:27:41pm

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

No argument there.

Meh. I don't know. Ever since I left Denver all of this Fox News stuff has become so "yesterday" for me.

159 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:29:02pm

I haven't even looked at Drudge for almost 3 months. I've grown. Got bored. Moved on. Got bigger fish to fry. Things to do and places to go.

160 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:29:45pm

re: #150 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think it's wings. But, I'm not sure.

Here, I'll forward it to you. I just have to share it.

wings would be my guess too

161 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:30:47pm

re: #156 BongCrodny

Out of eighty billion photos on the internet, you give him advice on how to post a butt crack tattoo photo?

Because seventy nine billion of them are ALREADY butt crack tattoo photos

162 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:31:11pm

re: #161 sattv4u2

Because seventy nine billion of them are ALREADY butt crack tattoo photos

Tramp stamp.

163 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:31:27pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

I think that even they realized that wasn't a smart position to take. Blogmocracy has maintained that it does not permit anti-Semitism (and one commentator was actually banned for it), so to go after Pam would have contradicted their previous positions entirely. They were still wrong to put the thread up, of course, but they'll just call "Kalegore" for bringing it up. Even when their better impulses win out, the butthurt is still far stronger than reason there.

Quinoagore threads will appear later this summer.

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:31:38pm

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think I've got it.

165 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:32:23pm

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think I've got it.

take some penicillin to get rid of it!

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:32:59pm

re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Should have titled that, "Regrets, I've had a few".

167 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:33:18pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

Quinoagore threads will appear later this summer.

Quinoagore? Que es?

168 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:33:58pm

re: #166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Should have titled that, "Regrets, I've had a few".

I regret having watched "Bruno"!

//

169 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:34:47pm

re: #167 Gus 802

Quinoagore? Que es?

I was askeerd to ask

170 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:35:28pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

Not racist, but #1 with racists.

Fox Noose, one born every millisecond.

The dumb, duped anti-kenyan-muslim birther bigots, clinging to whatever they are told by 7%-House of Saud-owned News, remind me of that line in Fight Club, about using the liposuction refuse for high-priced soap.

Tyler sold his soap to department stores at $20 a bar. Lord knows what they charged. It was beautiful. We were selling rich women their own fat asses back to them.

rotfl

171 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:35:32pm

re: #169 sattv4u2

I was askeerd to ask

Yeah. Looks like Al Gore with quinine water. It's a new drink.

//

172 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:36:26pm

re: #168 Gus 802

I regret having watched "Bruno"!

//


With me it was "From Paris, With Love."

173 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:37:39pm

Hot! Phoenix set a record today. 118 degrees! Caveat of course is that it was a record for that day.

174 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:37:55pm

re: #171 Gus 802

Yeah. Looks like Al Gore with quinine water. It's a new drink.

//

Good chaser for you Jim Beam

175 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:38:23pm

re: #174 sattv4u2

Good chaser for youR Jim Beam

176 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:38:49pm

re: #174 sattv4u2

Good chaser for you Jim Beam

Keeps the malaria at bay.
/medicine

177 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:39:32pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Keeps the malaria at bay.
/medicine

Medicinal.

178 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:40:09pm

re: #172 BongCrodny

With me it was "From Paris, With Love."

Suckage for real?

179 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:41:08pm

re: #157 SpaceJesus

Fox News conservatives express their hate towards Native Americans

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Such a klassy bunch.

Dumb bigots.

180 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:41:50pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Keeps the malaria at bay.
/medicine

Gin and Tonic!

(still nasty but at least the buzz helps)

181 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:42:34pm

re: #160 sattv4u2

wings would be my guess too

I saw a dude at the water park with 13 inch long folded bat wings tatts on his back. I thought "dude, you look like a moron."

182 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:43:03pm

re: #180 wlewisiii

Gin and Tonic!

(still nasty but at least the buzz helps)

Hmmm. A buzz for the buzz of the mosquitoes!

//

183 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:43:59pm

re: #181 prairiefire

I saw a dude at the water park with 13 inch long folded bat wings tatts on his back. I thought "dude, you look like a moron."

How about that "glasses" tattoo? Was on Youtube. Yeah, they payed him. But how much? He looks like a douche.

184 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:44:42pm

re: #181 prairiefire

I saw a dude at the water park with 13 inch long folded bat wings tatts on his back. I thought "dude, you look like a moron."

Poster boy for "look what my friends talked me into after a night of bar hopping"

185 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:44:55pm

We'll give you 10 grand to look like an idiot for the rest of your life until you have to spend 50 grand to get laser treatment to remove that stupid tattoo. Yep. Makes sense.

186 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:45:44pm

re: #178 Gus 802

Suckage for real?


Watched it on Netflix a few months ago, and gave up 35 minutes into it.

There were a *lot* of guns shooting, but that's all I remember about it.

187 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:46:10pm

Tattoos are so played out. I'm going to say it's just like the backwards baseball hat. So common. So status quo. It's like men wearing earrings. Dime a dozen.

188 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:48:21pm

I got a buddy that chickened out as he was about to get a tat.

If you look on his shoulder, there's *one* blue dot there.

189 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:49:37pm

re: #186 BongCrodny

Watched it on Netflix a few months ago, and gave up 35 minutes into it.

There were a *lot* of guns shooting, but that's all I remember about it.

I did that with "The Great Raid". Couldn't stand it for more than 30 minutes. Benjamin Bratt should stick with television.

190 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:49:46pm

re: #188 BongCrodny

I got a buddy that chickened out as he was about to get a tat.

If you look on his shoulder, there's *one* blue dot there.

Lol oh that is sad. I have one on my inner ankle. I still like it quite a bit.

191 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:50:13pm

re: #188 BongCrodny

I got a buddy that chickened out as he was about to get a tat.

If you look on his shoulder, there's *one* blue dot there.

Why would I look that close at your friends shoulder?
For at that matter,,, why are you!?!?!

192 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:51:26pm

re: #189 Gus 802

I did that with "The Great Raid". Couldn't stand it for more than 30 minutes. Benjamin Bratt should stick with television.

One would think he would have learned that lesson after Catwoman.

193 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:51:56pm

re: #189 Gus 802

I did that with "The Great Raid". Couldn't stand it for more than 30 minutes. Benjamin Bratt should stick with television.

Here. What this guy said fits my thoughts...

Instead of a tribute to a fine chapter in the annals of the Greatest Generation, we have a second-rate romance right out of a cheesy, pulp fiction novel.

194 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:52:41pm

Antidote To A Heat Wave

I shot these at a water sculpture near the beach. Water looks so interesting caught in an instant.

195 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:55:20pm

re: #194 Rightwingconspirator

Antidote To A Heat Wave

I shot these at a water sculpture near the beach. Water looks so interesting caught in an instant.

Upper right corner catches my eye, Beautiful.

Great idea, thank you for sharing that. I really have to get my scanner working and dunk all the film I've got piling up.

196 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:57:13pm

re: #132 Gus 802

Really. We're doing "lookism" on McCotter? Hmmm.

Oh Gus that is so 1991. /

197 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:59:16pm

re: #196 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh Gus that is so 1991. /

No. That's just me. I don't like it when people did that with Nancy Pelosi and for anyone else for that matter. I don't care what people look like and I refuse to lower myself into chiding someone for their looks. Regardless of party and/or ideology.

198 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 9:59:56pm

Make that "I don't didn't like it when people did that with to Nancy Pelosi..."

199 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:02:28pm

Blech. Check out these lows for Phoenix. Tonight will see a low of...89F!

200 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:04:19pm

Ah, looking for something else and find glory instead... Joan and Lita in Japan.

Youtube Video
201 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:10:31pm

Goodnight, all.

202 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:10:48pm

Ok, The Runaways kills a thread. I'll remember that next time.

203 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:14:37pm

re: #202 wlewisiii

Ok, The Runaways kills a thread. I'll remember that next time.

We need a controversial topic to shake things up.

Down with Dihydrogen Monoxide! The silent killer!

204 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:15:02pm

This won't sit well with the Bachmann-Palin-Cain branch of the GOP:

U.S. Seen as Among the Greatest Nations, But Not Superior to All Others


Despite the struggling economy and broad dissatisfaction with national conditions, the public has a positive view of the United States' global standing. But more think that the U.S. is one of the greatest countries in the world than say it stands above all other countries.

Slightly more than half (53%) say that the United States "is one of the greatest countries in the world, along with some others." Fewer (38%) say that the U.S. "stands above all other countries in the world." Just 8% think that "there are other countries that are better than the U.S."

[...]

205 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:16:55pm

The shelling has begun. OK, sounds more like mortar fire without the explosions.

206 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:18:50pm

re: #205 Gus 802

The shelling has begun. OK, sounds more like mortar fire without the explosions.

West Coast, I presume?

(and yeah, there are times when they do sound a wee bit too much like those kind of mortars.)

207 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:21:36pm

re: #200 wlewisiii

Ah, looking for something else and find glory instead... Joan and Lita in Japan.

[Video]

I still love this.

Youtube Video
208 Gus  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:22:27pm

re: #206 wlewisiii

West Coast, I presume?

(and yeah, there are times when they do sound a wee bit too much like those kind of mortars.)

Yep. West Coast. Inland a bit though. ;)

209 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:22:43pm

re: #204 freetoken

This won't sit well with the Bachmann-Palin-Cain branch of the GOP:

The set who thinks they are being personally deprived if they don't get to stamp out everyone in their path.

Dumb bigots.

210 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:25:05pm

re: #207 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I still love this.

[Video]

Thank you for this, hadn't seen it before. Hell of a good drummer too, though lost in the mix as badly as Karen Carpenter usually was.

211 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:31:51pm

re: #210 wlewisiii

Thank you for this, hadn't seen it before. Hell of a good drummer too, though lost in the mix as badly as Karen Carpenter usually was.

Yeah one of the reasons I really love Beyond the Valley of the Dolls/Carrie Nations is the real lead singer, Lynn Carey. She could seriously wail, plus, is/was hecccca gorgeous.

212 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:50:37pm

Master of Dim Hoft has a post about the Presidential Seal blowing off.

Yes, I guess this is a factoid worth discussing including its symbolic ramifications.

213 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:54:56pm

....blowing off the limo, in Philly, cuz he was at a fundraiser.....

.. derp.....

214 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 10:57:00pm

re: #204 freetoken

This won't sit well with the Bachmann-Palin-Cain branch of the GOP:

U.S. Seen as Among the Greatest Nations, But Not Superior to All Others

Good question for discussion:

How much longer can we afford American Exceptionalism?

This meme seems to dominate right wing talk radio, but the funding of the concept never seems to burble to the surface.

215 freetoken  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:00:30pm

re: #214 austin_blue

How much longer can we afford American Exceptionalism?

We've not been able to afford it since the fall of the Soviet Union. In the cold war is was part of the general propaganda to strengthen the idea that the US was purely good and the USSR was purely evil.

As an ideology though it really doesn't do anything but support extreme nationalism. It doesn't help build economic value or social well being.

It doesn't really need to be "funded", IMO, because humans are already prepped to believe their tribe is the best and the others are inferior.

216 Henchman Ghazi-808  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:03:04pm

Herman Cain does pique my interest. I'm wondering how the GOP will deal with Cain after getting their butthole touched by the election of the First Black POTUS.

Herman Cain revs up mainstream conservatives

In his pursuit of the Republican presidential nomination, Cain's views on the economy and his fiery delivery have resonated with some in the GOP. His campaign has also been marked by controversy, including his comment that he would not want a Muslim bent on killing Americans in his administration. Just this week, Cain accused comedian Jon Stewart of disliking him because he is an "American black conservative."

Already losing some of his cachet to tea party favorite Michele Bachmann, Cain, the lone African-American GOP candidate, is trying to win over a party that hasn't had a black nominee. Sidestepping race as an issue in his campaign may have helped him gain momentum in recent weeks, but whether he can turn vigor into votes will depend largely on voters' ability to look past his skin color and perceive him as a serious candidate.

"He appeals to people because he doesn't talk about race," said South Carolina Republican strategist Chip Felkel. "I think that too often, if anyone does go into that discussion, it's then used by other people to criticize them. I don't think that needs to be part of his narrative. He's a business person. He's an American."

Uh... dude... nevermind.

217 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:24:38pm

Nighty night, all.

The neighborhood water balloon/Super Soaker fight is on Monday. Must stock up. It's followed by the collective cookout. Basically a critter crawl of meats, shared by the 'hood. Socialism! But that's South Austin. The little blue pimple in Texas.

And damn fun.

Sweet dreams, my scaly friends. Will chime in tomorrow.

218 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:29:30pm

What, if anything, are we to make of Alice Walker calling the United States a "terrorist state?"

[Link: www.foreignpolicy.com...]

To me, it's pretty shocking. And I need to see who is connected to the Alice Walker universe--from Tracy Chapman to Oprah Winfrey--so I can be sure not to support them.

219 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:34:44pm

re: #218 reuven

What, if anything, are we to make of Alice Walker calling the United States a "terrorist state?"

[Link: www.foreignpolicy.com...]

To me, it's pretty shocking. And I need to see who is connected to the Alice Walker universe--from Tracy Chapman to Oprah Winfrey--so I can be sure not to support them.

Do you really find it shocking? It's pretty well worn debate territory at this point.

I think it comes down to the near impossibility of clearly delineating 'terrorism'; its a messy concept.

For what its worth, here's the relevant part of the interview. I'd say her particular deployment of the word 'terrorism' is pretty poorly defined, but that's about par for the course, whether you are on the left or the right.

AW: I think Israel is the greatest terrorist in that part of the world. And I think in general, the United States and Israel are great terrorist organizations themselves. If you go to Gaza and see some of the bombs -- what's left of the bombs that were dropped -- and the general destruction, you would have to say, yeah, it's terrorism. When you terrorize people, when you make them so afraid of you that they are just mentally and psychologically wounded for life -- that's terrorism. So these countries are terrorist countries.

FP: How is the United States a terrorist country?

AW: It is. Absolutely, it is. It has terrorized people around the globe for a very long time. It has fought against countries that have tried to change their governments, that have tried to have democracies, and the United States has intervened and interfered, like in Guatemala or Chile. I feel that it is so unreasonable, and I don't quite understand how they can claim everyone else is a terrorist and they are not when so many people right this minute are terrified of the drones, for instance, in the war in Afghanistan. The dropping of bombs on people -- isn't that terrorism?

FP: Of course Israel and the U.S. aren't the only ones that use bombs. Hamas has fired rockets at Israel in the past.

AW: Yes. And I'm not for a minute saying anybody anywhere should fire rockets. I mean, I would never do it. Nor would I ever supply such a thing to anyone. But it's extremely unequal. If people just acknowledge how absurdly unequal this is. This is David and Goliath, but Goliath is not the Palestinians. They are David. They are the ones with the slingshot. They are the ones with the rocks and relatively not-so-powerful rockets. Whereas the Israelis have these incredibly damaging missiles and rockets. When do you as a person of conscience speak and say enough is enough?

220 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:37:33pm

re: #219 Alexzander

Yes, I found it shocking that she is so willing to be a "useful idiot." Does she think before she talks and acts?

221 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:44:17pm

re: #220 reuven

Yes, I found it shocking that she is so willing to be a "useful idiot." Does she think before she talks and acts?

I dun oh - I'd give her a little more credit than that.
As a black women in America, her history puts her in a position of being sceptical of the American empire.

This is a women who lived through America during a time when segregation was legal, and the Army intentionally gave black individuals syphilis without consent for the sake of experimentation. I'd probably be a bit unhinged if I grew up in that environment too.

222 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:48:19pm

I dunno.

As a Jew in America, and as a gay man in America, I managed not to become unhinged.

There are some world conflicts that I won't have an opinion on. Can't she be smart enough to do the same?

223 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:48:37pm

re: #218 reuven

What, if anything, are we to make of Alice Walker calling the United States a "terrorist state?"

[Link: www.foreignpolicy.com...]

To me, it's pretty shocking. And I need to see who is connected to the Alice Walker universe--from Tracy Chapman to Oprah Winfrey--so I can be sure not to support them.

A moonbat doing what a moonbat does

That said, I wouldn't say it's a reflection on Tracy Chapman or Oprah Winfrey unless they were to come right out and say they agree 100% with Walker on this point
That said, it is interesting that in the interview Walker interjects that It started with the Six Day War in 1967. That happened shortly after my wedding to a Jewish law student. as if him being Jewish gave her some better insight into the situation than if she had married a Mormon

UNLESS that "jewish student" was born and raised in Israel and witnessed 1st hand what was transpiring, he had no more insight into it (although he may have had more interest) than any other "student" of the day

224 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:51:00pm

re: #219 Alexzander

And I'm not for a minute saying anybody anywhere should fire rockets. I mean, I would never do it. Nor would I ever supply such a thing to anyone

wow ,, thats ,, umm,, reassuring!!

225 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:51:23pm

re: #223 sattv4u2

I'd guess she mentions that not so much as to suggest special insight into the issue, but to fend off accusations of antisemitism.

226 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:52:37pm

re: #225 Alexzander

I'd guess she mentions that not so much as to suggest special insight into the issue, but to fend off accusations of antisemitism.

Limbaugh was married by a black preacher!

just sayin'

227 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:54:44pm

G'night!

228 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 2, 2011 11:56:32pm

re: #226 sattv4u2

Limbaugh was married by a black preacher!

just sayin'

Hey I'm not saying that she is A or B; only that is a likely explanation for an otherwise irrelevant fact.
Truth is that people get (falsely) labelled as antisemites (or self hating Jews) for being critical of Israel pretty frequently.
You dont have to be an antisemite to be ignorant in your judgement of a nation state's intentions and larger political and social context.

229 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 12:02:13am

re: #218 reuven

What, if anything, are we to make of Alice Walker calling the United States a "terrorist state?"

[Link: www.foreignpolicy.com...]

To me, it's pretty shocking. And I need to see who is connected to the Alice Walker universe--from Tracy Chapman to Oprah Winfrey--so I can be sure not to support them.

Walker's daughter wrote a good article recently,
How my mother's fanatical views tore us apart. However your whole guilt by association schtick is some weak sauce.

230 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 12:05:02am

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

Great link!

231 freetoken  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 12:39:23am
MP3 Audio
232 freetoken  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 1:18:25am

Nikki Yanofsky, singer babe:

MP3 Audio
233 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:03:42am

re: #218 reuven

What, if anything, are we to make of Alice Walker calling the United States a "terrorist state?"

What do you mean "we", and what "we" are to make of it?

"We" who?

It's crankodoodle talk.

234 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:05:04am

re: #218 reuven

And I need to see who is connected to the Alice Walker universe--from Tracy Chapman to Oprah Winfrey--so I can be sure not to support them.

/eyeroll

Looks like you've already laid out this so-called "universe" for her.

But based on what criteria?

This ought to be good.

235 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:09:13am

re: #222 reuven

I dunno.

As a Jew in America, and as a gay man in America, I managed not to become unhinged.

I notice being a Jew in America and a gay man in America doesn't stop you from tossing Oprah and Tracy Chapman in the dumb black woman who talks too much boat.

236 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:11:19am

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

Walker's daughter wrote a good article recently,
How my mother's fanatical views tore us apart. However your whole guilt by association schtick is some weak sauce.

Weak, though thoroughly, utterly predictable.

People will throw themselves at any chance to cast themselves as victims of the blacks. It's all the rage these days, from birthers to baggers to white gays. Some of the latter have been honing their chops for a generation.

237 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:13:00am

re: #225 Alexzander

I'd guess she mentions that not so much as to suggest special insight into the issue, but to fend off accusations of antisemitism.

It's classic pandering. Easily recognizable.

238 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:18:27am

re: #214 austin_blue

How much longer can we afford American Exceptionalism?

If it were up to me, well, I don't begrudge the dumb bigots clinging to their old, irrelevant ideals.

For some of them, it's all they have left, since The Blacks, The Women, and The Queers have disinvested them of all their conservative authority, and keep snuffing their faces in it with every passing generation.

So long as I don't have to think and talk like that, what do I care if they do. For me, at this point in my life, the concept is just another eyeroll-generator.

239 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:19:48am

re: #226 sattv4u2

Limbaugh was married by a black preacher!

I bet some of his best friends are, too /eyeroll

240 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:26:44am

re: #239 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The fourth time. Who married him the first three times? He was probably trying to dial down the bigotry for the current wife. He even had Elton John performing.

241 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:32:47am

re: #216 BigPapa

Herman Cain does pique my interest. I'm wondering how the GOP will deal with Cain after getting their butthole touched by the election of the First Black POTUS.

If the GOP were up against any other incumbent, they would not pay any attention to Herman Cain.

It should tell us something, that the GOP's bar is set so low, they are actually considering someone like Michele Bachmann as a candidate, as well as kicking around the name of someone like Herman Cain, who has never held elected office in his life, and knows jack-frack about governing even a municipality, let alone a country complete with the most powerful country on earth.

The same bunch runs some of the most unhinged "candidates" on earth, whackjobs like Carl Paladino, Allen West, Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Star Parker, and Angela McGowan, and is chomping at the bit for Sarah Palin to get up off her duff and go snuff all the liberals for them or whatever, while they hide behind her skirts.

The only thing lower than a rightwing bigot is a rightwing bigoted coward. I hope some normal conservatives start standing up to these people soon, but I'm not holding my breath.

242 freetoken  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:36:48am

Carmen McRae:

MP3 Audio
243 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:37:04am

re: #240 mdey

He was probably trying to dial down the bigotry for the current wife. He even had Elton John performing.

Yeah the dumb bigots love hiding behind us for that. They should not wonder, though, why the pool for that kind of thing is so small. I remember reading about Elton John at the wedding. I supported him when he played Tel Aviv last year, but not when he played Limbaugh.

Though, I suppose when one is an A-lister, a venue really is just a venue.

244 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:37:55am

re: #241 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

let alone a country complete with the most powerful country on earth.

Should read:

let alone a country complete with the most powerful military on earth.

245 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 2:52:50am

re: #216 BigPapa

"He appeals to people because he doesn't talk about race," said South Carolina Republican strategist Chip Felkel.

Uh... dude... nevermind.

Stupid is, as stupid says.

Evidently, Chip Feckel needs to go back to Homeschool Voucher Grad High School and re-take "listening for comprehension", because he hasn't been paying attention to Herman "Because I'm Black" Cain at all.

His schtick is 100% old 90s PC just with a few words replaced with conservative, anti-Muslim, US-exceptionalist claptrap.

Look who went racism-chasing, crying to Juan Williams about Jon Stewart.

WILLIAMS: Mr. Cain sees a racial element in Stewart's comments. He joins me now. Herman Cain, thanks for coming in.

CAIN: Hello, Juan.

WILLIAMS: Tell me what's your beef with Jon Stewart.

CAIN: First of all, Jon Stewart is a comedian. I understand that. But when he starts to mock the three-page joke, him being a comedian, he ought to have known that that was a joke. But he took it seriously and then he started to stretch it out with all of the other stuff. Now, when he mocked me in the dialogue of the old "Amos and Andy"…

WILLIAMS: Dialect.

This complaint about Amos and Andy is from the person who kicked off his own campaign with "Awwwww, shucky-duckie!!!"

Really? Lol "shucky ducky"?

He also don't snuff his own seed after makin' a mistake with one of his ho's. How sweet.

Youtube Video

Yeah, he's a real serious candidate, that those white teabaggers with the obama-is-a-monkey signs will flock to the polls for during the primaries. Lol sure he is.

246 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:05:38am

re: #239 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I bet some of his best friends are, too /eyeroll

Snerdley! Limbaugh is not racist because he has Snerdley!!

(The test is not whether you have black friends who all think like you, or are willing to have a black man do your taxes. The test is whether racist crap comes out of your mouth when someone opposes you. Limbaugh fails.)

247 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:16:24am

re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist

Hannity has black guys like Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, and Michael Myers come on his show and just trash their own race. According to them, whites are always victims of racism, Rush and Glenn are just fine, and President Obama was elected because of white guilt.

248 jost4566  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:21:44am

I had this same issue (sold it last year) but it was not in such hot shape because I was a subscriber. Marvel in those days had the bad habit of folding the comic in half for mailing. That offended me even way back when, so I was a short-term subscriber. It was those "duplex" comics that got me hooked for a long time. I took some to summer camp in 1966 and, when the story didn't wrap up, I bought the next issue, and the next.....

249 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:23:44am

re: #246 SanFranciscoZionist

Snerdley! Limbaugh is not racist because he has Snerdley!!

(The test is not whether you have black friends who all think like you, or are willing to have a black man do your taxes. The test is whether racist crap comes out of your mouth when someone opposes you. Limbaugh fails.)

One would think. But that presumes people are following good logic.

I've noticed the newest litmus test in Conservatopia is whether or not one talks about race, at all, since all that ended when Ronald Reagan said "tear down these signs!" and made the New Black Panthers take down all those racist Colored-only signs they put up in the 60s. /

Herman Cain talks about race, incessantly. It's only a matter of time until he's dumped on the "race-baiting, race-hustler-negro" boat with the rest of us, so I'm not sure who any of these jokers think they are kidding lol

250 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:33:14am

re: #247 mdey

Hannity has black guys like Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, and Michael Myers come on his show and just trash their own race. According to them, whites are always victims of racism, Rush and Glenn are just fine, and President Obama was elected because of white guilt.

They consider themselves victims because they feel they are being deprived of their natural right to rule, über alles. /boohoo

Jesse Lee Peterson is about on the same level as any other duped, self-loathing slavecatcher, afaic. But when he's invariably dumped by these rightwing bigots he's apparently so desperate to impress, I will defend him.

251 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:38:09am

re: #239 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I bet some of his best friends are, too /eyeroll

waytomissthepoint

252 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:39:02am

re: #250 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Totally agree.

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:41:46am

re: #223 sattv4u2

A moonbat doing what a moonbat does

That said, I wouldn't say it's a reflection on Tracy Chapman or Oprah Winfrey unless they were to come right out and say they agree 100% with Walker on this point
That said, it is interesting that in the interview Walker interjects that It started with the Six Day War in 1967. That happened shortly after my wedding to a Jewish law student. as if him being Jewish gave her some better insight into the situation than if she had married a Mormon

UNLESS that "jewish student" was born and raised in Israel and witnessed 1st hand what was transpiring, he had no more insight into it (although he may have had more interest) than any other "student" of the day

She's made it pretty clear that she was disgusted by Leventhal's support for Israel, and considers herself to have gained insight into the mentality of Jews who don't agree with her through him.

There's a bit in one of her essays about Gaza, where an old lady blesses her: "May God protect you from the Jews", and Walker says she responded, "It's too late. I already married one."

Charming.

254 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:42:28am

re: #251 sattv4u2

waytomissthepoint

whichwas..

255 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:44:27am

re: #254 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

whichwas..

I thought it was that neither Limbaugh nor Walker can so easily deflect charges of racism or anti-Semitism.

But I may be losing the thread of this.

256 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:45:16am

re: #253 SanFranciscoZionist

She's made it pretty clear that she was disgusted by Leventhal's support for Israel, and considers herself to have gained insight into the mentality of Jews who don't agree with her through him.

There's a bit in one of her essays about Gaza, where an old lady blesses her: "May God protect you from the Jews", and Walker says she responded, "It's too late. I already married one."

Charming.

Classic antisemitic tokenism...should be heaped on the "some of my best friends are..." pile.

I wonder who she thinks she is kidding with this crapola.

257 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:46:51am

re: #255 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought it was that neither Limbaugh nor Walker can so easily deflect charges of racism or anti-Semitism.

But I may be losing the thread of this.

Yeah, my comment was in that same vein, so I'm not sure what sattv meant.

258 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:47:32am

re: #254 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

whichwas..

Walker throwing in the "I married a Jewish student" as if to say, "look, there's no WAY I'm an Anti Semite"

We have no clue if this "Jewish Student" is THE most observant person on the face of the earth, OR, to use a term from above, the most self hating Jewish person that has ever drawn breath

See SFZ's 253
Whats that phrase ,, oh ,,yes ,, "marriage of convenience!"

Charming indeed

259 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:47:55am

re: #255 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought it was that neither Limbaugh nor Walker can so easily deflect charges of racism or anti-Semitism.

But I may be losing the thread of this.

spot on

260 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:49:15am

re: #256 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Classic antisemitic tokenism...should be heaped on the "some of my best friends are..." pile.

I wonder who she thinks she is kidding with this crapola.

Lots of people

Thats why she through in the " a Jewish student"

261 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:49:30am

re: #258 sattv4u2

Walker throwing in the "I married a Jewish student" as if to say, "look, there's no WAY I'm an Anti Semite"

We have no clue if this "Jewish Student" is THE most observant person on the face of the earth, OR, to use a term from above, the most self hating Jewish person that has ever drawn breath

See SFZ's 253
Whats that phrase ,, oh ,,yes ,, "marriage of convenience!"

Charming indeed

And you believe I missed this point, because?

262 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:50:49am

re: #261 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

And you believe I missed this point, because?

The "point" was about Walker, NOT Limbuagh

But you jumped right on the
hey,, look ,, we can switch focus and attack the conservative now

263 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:52:57am

re: #260 sattv4u2

The "point" was about Walker, NOT Limbuagh

But you jumped right on the
hey,, look ,, we can switch focus and attack the conservative now

Yes, tell us how my posts oppress poor, put-upon, hapless, victimized conservatives, because I put an /eyeroll post that agreed with yours.

Give it a rest, pls.

264 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:54:37am

re: #263 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yes, tell us how my posts oppress poor, put-upon, hapless, victimized conservatives, because I put an /eyeroll post that agreed with yours.

Give it a rest, pls.

not only waytomissthepoint (oribinally)

But ,, whatahellofaleap

Don't twist an ankle on the landing

265 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:54:53am

re: #264 sattv4u2

not only waytomissthepoint (oribGinally)

But ,, whatahellofaleap

Don't twist an ankle on the landing

266 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:55:43am

re: #260 sattv4u2

Lots of people

Thats why she through threw in the " a Jewish student"

damn , these 12 hour shifts are killing me

267 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:58:24am

re: #264 sattv4u2

not only waytomissthepoint (oribinally)

But ,, whatahellofaleap

Don't twist an ankle on the landing

Sorry, the post that was the cause of such damage did not do what you claim,

"But you jumped right on the
hey,, look ,, we can switch focus and attack the conservative now"

I did nothing of the sort, I agreed with you. Don't be so oversensitive.

268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 3:58:48am

re: #265 sattv4u2

Haste makes waste.

269 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:02:08am

re: #268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Haste makes waste.

there's no "haste" in my hunt/and/peck typing style

More a combination of transitioning to the overnight shift

Worked Friday from 10 am till 10 pm,, by the time I get home, unwind and get to sleep it's about 1:30 am
Woke up Saturday at about 8 am,, been up ever since (left for work at about 10:30 pm,,, it's 7 am now and I still have 5 hours to go before I drive home, anothre hour + and get to bed at about 1:30 pm)

270 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:11:25am

Morning, all

271 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:20:59am

re: #270 researchok

Morning, all

all what?

272 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:22:54am

All the little people.
/

273 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:24:54am

re: #272 researchok

All the little people.
/



I'm 5' 6 1/2 inches

Whats the demarcation height?

274 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:25:59am

re: #273 sattv4u2

I'm 5' 6 1/2 inches

Whats the demarcation height?

5'7

275 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:27:35am

re: #274 researchok

5'7

"missed, by THAT much'

Maxwell Smart

276 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:29:14am

Quiet this weekend in here

Everyone is off enjoying the holiday, I imagine

277 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:30:33am

6' 3.5"
Y'all are short!
:P

278 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:31:20am

I'm at 6'

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:32:38am

re: #266 sattv4u2

"These nine hour work weeks are killing me."
-George Jetson

280 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:32:42am

re: #276 researchok

Quieter than usual for a Sunday morn? Liven it up a little.

281 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:32:42am

Little-known Republican McCotter opens White House bid

Thaddeus McCotter, a guitar-playing Michigan congressman with an independent streak, formally launched a longshot bid for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination on Saturday.

The conservative McCotter made his formal announcement at an Independence Day rock festival outside Detroit. He filed the paperwork on Friday to enter the Republican race for the right to challenge Democratic President Barack Obama.

"Through your hard work and through your principled determination to bequeath to your children a better America, we will restructure the government," McCotter told the crowd at the rock festival, where he played guitar with a band. "... What we need in Washington is someone who knows the future is not big government -- it is self government."

282 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:33:21am

re: #280 mdey

Quieter than usual for a Sunday morn? Liven it up a little.

I will not take off my pants.

283 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:34:19am

re: #282 researchok

I will not take off my pants.

what are these "pants" of which you speak?

284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:34:26am

re: #282 researchok

Too late.

285 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:35:03am

re: #276 researchok

Quiet this weekend in here

Everyone is off enjoying the holiday, I imagine

I'm enjoying being at work!!

no,, wait ,,, that's not "enjoyment" I'm feeling

286 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:36:12am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"These nine hour work weeks are killing me."
-George Jetson

Yeah ,, it's going to take me awhile to get my body clock adjusted to my new schedule

ugh!

287 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:36:45am

re: #283 sattv4u2

what are these "pants" of which you speak?

Of these I sing

288 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:37:13am

re: #282 researchok

A guy that plays guitar on Fox News announcing his presidential run, is sort of a big deal.

289 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:37:20am

re: #285 sattv4u2

I'm enjoying being at work!!

no,, wait ,,, that's not "enjoyment" I'm feeling

I know that feeling well

290 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:38:12am

re: #288 mdey

A guy that plays guitar on Fox News announcing his presidential run, is sort of a big deal.

Usual Sunday morning idiot fare

291 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:38:47am

re: #281 researchok

Little-known Republican McCotter opens White House bid

"... What we need in Washington is someone who knows the future is not big government -- it is self government."

Rotfl Hi, I'm from the government, and I'm here to tell you you don't need the government.

Oh brother. Lol!

292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:43:50am

Any Democrats going to run against the President?

293 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:45:36am

It seems to me that McCotter's district is going to disappear through redistricting, just like Michele Bachmann's. That is why they are both running for president

294 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:46:04am

re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Any Democrats going to run against the President?

Too early to announce, I'd say.

I don't believe Hillary will bolt and run

295 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:48:50am

re: #294 researchok

Too early to announce, I'd say.

I don't believe Hillary will bolt and run


We;ll always have Kucinich,, and maybe Edwards will be exonerated !!

WAIt ,, GRAVEL!!!

296 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:49:30am

Morning folks!

297 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:50:35am

re: #294 researchok

Too early to announce, I'd say.

I don't believe Hillary will bolt and run

She's a team player, if she's thinking of leaving she'll wait until after the election. I would have voted for her in '08.

298 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:50:52am

re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Any Democrats going to run against the President?

Doubtful. There is a group of hair-on-fires out of Firedog Lake, trying to "primary Obama". But they keep coming up with blank slates. [Link: newprogs.org...]

Losers.

299 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:52:45am

re: #281 researchok

Little-known Republican McCotter opens White House bid

Should I know who he is? He has a great name to run.

300 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:53:06am

re: #297 RogueOne

She's a team player, if she's thinking of leaving she'll wait until after the election. I would have voted for her in '08.

I was up for voting for either Obama or Clinton, whomever got the nomi. I was originally an Edwards person anyway. Thank X he dropped out as soon as he did.

301 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:55:48am

re: #300 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I was rooting for Hillary. I would argue my original impression of Obama has stood up pretty well. I dislike McCain, McCain-Feingold pissed me off. I liked Fred Thompson but he didn't even try.

302 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:55:53am

re: #299 RogueOne

Should I know who he is? He has a great name to run.

Sounds more like an Associate Dean on Animal House

"Dean McCotter, could you please put Blutarski on double secret probation"

303 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 4:59:05am

re: #300 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I was up for voting for either Obama or Clinton, whomever got the nomi. I was originally an Edwards person anyway. Thank X he dropped out as soon as he did.

Thank GOD Kerry didn't win in 04

This Edwards thing would have started playing out with him as VP!

ugh!

304 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:01:48am

re: #298 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Doubtful. There is a group of hair-on-fires out of Firedog Lake, trying to "primary Obama". But they keep coming up with blank slates. [Link: newprogs.org...]

Losers.

The Prez needs to hear that chatter in the back of his head. His greatest fault is over-reasonableness. In the last ditch, almost all of us will be back with him. The alternatives are unthinkable.

305 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:03:10am

re: #277 Varek Raith

6' 3.5"
Y'all are short!
:P

beat you by an inch, small-fry

306 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:03:40am

re: #301 RogueOne

I was rooting for Hillary. I would argue my original impression of Obama has stood up pretty well. I dislike McCain, McCain-Feingold pissed me off. I liked Fred Thompson but he didn't even try.

He's always struck me as a just-left-of-DLC type, not all that different from Clinton policy-wise, even since the infamous "purple states speech". Still does. Ironically, I get labeled some obamabot because I'm not running around coming unglued at every single policy decision. Not that I care, I just think it's hilarious.

307 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:05:13am

re: #305 RogueOne

beat you by an inch, small-fry

I have an ion cannon in geosynchronous orbit above your head.
I win.
:P

308 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:05:39am

re: #303 sattv4u2

Thank GOD Kerry didn't win in 04

Global test!!! /

Some days, I can still barely believe that became some grand issue for people to scream about. (Although, these days I can believe just about anything, after the 08 GE.)

Ah well, his fault for not fighting back.

309 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:05:59am

re: #276 researchok

Quiet this weekend in here

Everyone is off enjoying the holiday, I imagine

My wife volunteered to work a BBQ/Rock n Roll event. I saw Rev Theory, Saving Abel and Puddle of Mudd yesterday. Today is Soul Asylum (one of my closet fav's) Gin Blossoms (suck), Little River Band (really suck) and Loverboy (uber suck). I'm going to go be supportive with her for the Soul Asylum bit, grab some more bbq, and bail.

310 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:06:53am

re: #309 RogueOne

My wife volunteered to work a BBQ/Rock n Roll event. I saw Rev Theory, Saving Abel and Puddle of Mudd yesterday. Today is Soul Asylum (one of my closet fav's) Gin Blossoms (suck), Little River Band (really suck) and Loverboy (uber suck). I'm going to go be supportive with her for the Soul Asylum bit, grab some more bbq, and bail.

CD's are a good thing

311 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:07:33am

re: #310 researchok

CD's are a good thing

The hell is a 'CD'???
MP3s!
Get with the times man!
/

312 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:08:36am

re: #311 Varek Raith

The hell is a 'CD'???
MP3s!
Get with the times man!
/

I still call them albums and the kids look at me like I'm exhaling dust. Live music is where it's at!

313 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:09:30am

re: #311 Varek Raith

The hell is a 'CD'???
MP3s!
Get with the times man!
/

MP3? Isn't that like a Polaroid photograph of music?

314 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:09:51am

re: #311 Varek Raith

The hell is a 'CD'???
MP3s!
Get with the times man!
/

I have hundreds of CDs...

I guess they are going the way of 8 tracks

315 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:10:31am

re: #314 researchok

I have hundreds of CDs...

I guess they are going the way of 8 tracks

umm,, err,, whats wrong with 8 tracks!?!?

316 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:10:59am

re: #304 Decatur Deb

The Prez needs to hear that chatter in the back of his head. His greatest fault is over-reasonableness. In the last ditch, almost all of us will be back with him. The alternatives are unthinkable.

I think he's doing alright. I actually like the kill-em-with-reason bit and know exactly why he uses it.

What's with all the GOP crying messes like Böhner and McConnell, though? lol!

317 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:11:02am

re: #314 researchok

I have hundreds of CDs...

I guess they are going the way of 8 tracks

A few years ago I moved all my vinyl to cassette, then gave away the discs. Way bad timing.

318 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:11:07am

re: #315 sattv4u2

umm,, err,, whats wrong with 8 tracks!?!?

OK, I really LOL

319 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:12:07am

re: #318 researchok

OK, I really LOL

AND GET OFF MY LAWN

320 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:12:25am

re: #315 sattv4u2

umm,, err,, whats wrong with 8 tracks!?!?

It's hard to find parts for the cars they come in.

321 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:13:33am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

A few years ago I moved all my vinyl to cassette, then gave away the discs. Way bad timing.

Mp3s will be here for a while...store music online or on memory cards, burn cds...

Lately, I've been listening to the music channels on my TV (att uverse) pretty good selection

322 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:13:44am

re: #314 researchok

I have hundreds of CDs...

I guess they are going the way of 8 tracks

What were the dinos like????
/

323 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:15:07am

re: #316 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I think he's doing alright. I actually like the kill-em-with-reason bit and know exactly why he uses it.

What's with all the GOP crying messes like Böhner and McConnell, though? lol!

He still owes us Gitmo and Iraq. The people he's selected to run economic policy are...umm...'disquieting'.

324 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:15:21am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

A few years ago I moved all my vinyl to cassette, then gave away the discs. Way bad timing.

One of the young friends of my SiL works in a local shop that sells vinyl albums online. Some of those go for an assload (technical term).

325 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:16:14am

re: #304 Decatur Deb

In the last ditch, almost all of us will be back with him. The alternatives are unthinkable.

I've been thinking for a while, this is why the GOTP will never let one of the TP whackodoodles on the ticket, at least not in the president slot.

Maybe an unknown quantity like this new chap, but no Bachmanns, Palins, or other name-brand extremes.

It will bring every disgruntled, grumbling "primary Obama" so-called "progressives" out of the woodwork and into the polls. They need to do their best to get left voters to stay home.

326 researchok  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:16:34am

bbiab

327 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:16:45am

re: #321 researchok

Mp3s will be here for a while...store music online or on memory cards, burn cds...

Lately, I've been listening to the music channels on my TV (att uverse) pretty good selection

Yeah--I melted my turntable w/ 220v. Now there are turntables w/ USB output--what I needed then.

328 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:18:35am

re: #325 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I've been thinking for a while, this is why the GOTP will never let one of the TP whackodoodles on the ticket, at least not in the president slot.

Maybe an unknown quantity like this new chap, but no Bachmanns, Palins, or other name-brand extremes.

It will bring every disgruntled, grumbling "primary Obama" so-called "progressives" out of the woodwork and into the polls. They need to do their best to get left voters to stay home.

They're still looking for the Great White Derp.

329 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:18:55am

re: #321 researchok

Mp3s will be here for a while...store music online or on memory cards, burn cds...

Lately, I've been listening to the music channels on my TV (att uverse) pretty good selection

I have a huge selection of MP3's, roughly 50gig. I tend to travel a lot during the year. Being able to take my entire music/movie collection with me when I travel is pretty handy.

330 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:20:01am

ugh,,,

this coffee isn't helping at all

Been up for 24 hours now

time to break out the crack!

331 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:20:25am

re: #330 sattv4u2

ugh,,,

this coffee isn't helping at all

Been up for 24 hours now

time to break out the crack!

Sunflower seeds.
Legal crack.

332 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:20:47am

re: #323 Decatur Deb

He still owes us Gitmo and Iraq. The people he's selected to run economic policy are...umm...'disquieting'.

Yeah, there are annoyances. Problem with Gitmo is what to do with those poor sods who are enemy combatants. Meh, talk about persona non grata.

333 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:21:53am

re: #330 sattv4u2

ugh,,,

this coffee isn't helping at all

Been up for 24 hours now

time to break out the crack!

Gottcha covered:

Image: bc+8.jpg

334 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:22:55am

re: #333 Decatur Deb

Gottcha covered:

Image: bc+8.jpg

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

335 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:23:11am

re: #328 Decatur Deb

They're still looking for the Great White Derp.

Lol well I suggest they get a move on, since the Derpiest Generation is dying off.

336 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:23:50am

re: #332 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, there are annoyances. Problem with Gitmo is what to do with those poor sods who are enemy combatants. Meh, talk about persona non grata.

"annoynaces"??

Sorry, but it was a large part of what he ran on

337 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:24:32am

re: #334 sattv4u2

The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.

Alternate:

Image: constructionthong.jpg

338 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:26:19am

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Alternate:

Image: constructionthong.jpg

thanks

Now I'll NEVER be able to sleep, fearing that image will haunt my dreams

339 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:26:32am

re: #332 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, there are annoyances. Problem with Gitmo is what to do with those poor sods who are enemy combatants. Meh, talk about persona non grata.

Try them as criminals. Send the innocent back where they came from, and hope they don't bear a grudge.

340 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:27:25am

re: #336 sattv4u2

"annoynaces"??

Sorry, but it was a large part of what he ran on

Iraq is on track, despite the screamers in various camps. Gitmo, closing it overnight by Presidential fiat would be swell, true.

341 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:28:25am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Try them as criminals. Send the innocent back where they came from, and hope they don't bear a grudge.

Try them as war criminals and hang the guilty.

342 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:28:34am

re: #340 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Iraq is on track, despite the screamers in various camps. Gitmo, closing it overnight by Presidential fiat would be swell, true.

"overnight"?

iirc, Obama has been President for many an "overnight" now

343 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:29:21am

re: #340 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Iraq is on track, despite the screamers in various camps. Gitmo, closing it overnight by Presidential fiat would be swell, true.

I want to see him pulling the last troop into a C-141, with a "Mission Really Acomplished" banner on the ramp.

344 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:30:46am

re: #343 Decatur Deb

We're going to have troops in-country for quite awhile yet, probably decades. Same with Afghanistan.

345 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:30:56am

re: #339 Decatur Deb

Try them as criminals. Send the innocent back where they came from, and hope they don't bear a grudge.

Yeah, we have a problem with this new class of accused, "enemy combatants". So are they military, or what? The O admin says they are and has lifted the ban on them being tried as military.

But are they? It's a big, stupid, needless albatrossy mess.

346 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:31:33am

re: #342 sattv4u2

"overnight"?

iirc, Obama has been President for many an "overnight" now

People have been complaining about it since some time in mid 2009.

347 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:31:51am

Just posted an article on another Republican running for President. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

348 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:32:00am

Just scrolled through the front page...It was quiet around here yesterday. All you right-wingers out celebrating the 4th.

349 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:32:38am

re: #341 RogueOne

Try them as war criminals and hang the guilty.

Doesn't "war criminal" presume guilt?

Do we still hang people?

350 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:33:18am

re: #344 RogueOne

We're going to have troops in-country for quite awhile yet, probably decades. Same with Afghanistan.

I don't think so, unless they are above a large critical number needed for security. Kandahar isn't going to turn into Bad Kissigen.

351 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:34:24am

re: #348 RogueOne

Just scrolled through the front page...It was quiet around here yesterday. All you right-wingers out celebrating the 4th.

If by "celebrating the fourth" you mean "walking the dogs in the park,, grocery shopping,,, watching the Womens Wimbledon final,,, watching the womans USA World Cup Soccer Game ,, watching my sons soccer game,,, watching the Red Sox game,, getting ready for and driving into work,, why yes ,, yes I was "celebrating the fourth"

352 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:35:11am

re: #347 PhillyPretzel

A total joke.

353 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:37:08am

re: #344 RogueOne

We're going to have troops in-country for quite awhile yet, probably decades. Same with Afghanistan.

I wish it weren't true, but I think you're right.

What does anyone think of the drone strikes, now against Somalia? [Link: wapo.st...]

354 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:37:36am

re: #350 Decatur Deb

I don't think so, unless they are above a large critical number needed for security. Kandahar isn't going to turn into Bad Kissigen.

I dunno,,

We still have troops in South Korea, and I would say the Afghanistan/ Pakistan area is every bit as unsettled as the Korean peninsula

355 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:38:59am

re: #353 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I wish it weren't true, but I think you're right.

What does anyone think of the drone strikes, now against Somalia? [Link: wapo.st...]

Like Libya, skirting the line on if the Pres will need to (eventually) go to congress

356 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:39:31am

re: #347 PhillyPretzel

Just posted an article on another Republican running for President. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #352 mdey

A total joke.

Let a hundred flowers blossom, and a hundred schools of comedy contend.

357 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:40:33am

re: #349 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Doesn't "war criminal" presume guilt?

Do we still hang people?

No, but I can dream. If they're captured in a war zone with a weapon in their hand they're terrorists. If they weren't shooting at US soldiers they'd be abusing the locals. It would be a better planet if they weren't on it.

358 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:40:53am

re: #355 sattv4u2

Like Libya, skirting the line on if the Pres will need to (eventually) go to congress

So I guess you don't like them.

359 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:40:56am

re: #354 sattv4u2

I dunno,,

We still have troops in South Korea, and I would say the Afghanistan/ Pakistan area is every bit as unsettled as the Korean peninsula

No, I mean it's much worse. We will face an all-or-nothing situation when the local regime collapses.

360 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:41:12am

re: #358 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

So I guess you don't like them.

Where did I say that?

361 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:41:50am

re: #357 RogueOne

If they weren't shooting at US soldiers they'd be abusing the locals. It would be a better planet if they weren't on it.

Isn't that what a trial is supposed to determine?

362 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:42:39am

re: #361 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Isn't that what a trial is supposed to determine?

civil, or military tribunal?

They're not there for parking violations!

363 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:42:53am

re: #360 sattv4u2

Where did I say that?

So I guess you like them.

364 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:43:39am

re: #363 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

So I guess you like them.

Where did I say that?

365 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:43:42am

re: #350 Decatur Deb

I don't think so, unless they are above a large critical number needed for security. Kandahar isn't going to turn into Bad Kissigen.

The Afghans and Iraqis know the can't trust their own security forces. They're going to want us to stick around. Didn't Panetta just say he expected the Iraqi government to ask us to stick around for at least the next couple years?

366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:44:37am

re: #362 sattv4u2

civil, or military tribunal?

That's always been the bajillion-dollar question.

The O administration now says military tribunal, and get on with it. What say ye?

367 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:45:11am

re: #354 sattv4u2

I dunno,,

We still have troops in South Korea, and I would say the Afghanistan/ Pakistan area is every bit as unsettled as the Korean peninsula

The troops in korea are there for a different purpose. They aren't actually providing anything other than a reason for the US to get involved in another land war with NK in the event they decide to invade the south. Those troops on the ground now are cannon fodder.

368 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:45:14am

re: #365 RogueOne

The Afghans and Iraqis know the can't trust their own security forces. They're going to want us to stick around. Didn't Panetta just say he expected the Iraqi government to ask us to stick around for at least the next couple years?

Yeah--and if there's not enough of them, they will just be targets/hostages. Hand the locals back the keys and split.

369 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:46:16am

re: #366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That's always been the bajillion-dollar question.

The O administration now says military tribunal, and get on with it. What say ye?

In that they are NOT in there for parking violations, I've all along said tribunal
(and yes,, I know some of them have been convicted in civil court, but thats not the issue)

These procedures are in place for a reason.

370 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:46:18am

re: #353 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I wish it weren't true, but I think you're right.

What does anyone think of the drone strikes, now against Somalia? [Link: wapo.st...]

I have no problem with them. The more drones in the air the fewer boots on the ground...or something.

371 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:46:18am

re: #364 sattv4u2

Where did I say that?

No one has accused you of saying anything at all.

372 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:47:09am

re: #366 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That's always been the bajillion-dollar question.

The O administration now says military tribunal, and get on with it. What say ye?

Doesn't matter, as long as the courts are demonstrably fair. The status quo is an infected wound.

373 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:47:13am

re: #361 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Isn't that what a trial is supposed to determine?

I said trial...then hang. I'm a softie that way.

374 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:47:26am

re: #371 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

No one has accused you of saying anything at all.

didn't say you (or anyone) did

I just stated I never said either

375 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:47:30am

re: #369 sattv4u2

In that they are NOT in there for parking violations, I've all along said tribunal
(and yes,, I know some of them have been convicted in civil court, but thats not the issue)

These procedures are in place for a reason.

Then tribunal it is. The O admin agrees with you.

376 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:48:09am

re: #375 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Then tribunal it is. The O admin agrees with you.

And again, thats not what he ran on!

377 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:48:20am

re: #371 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

No one has accused you of saying anything at all.

I heard him say he's a closet Kip Winger fan///

378 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:48:52am

re: #377 RogueOne

I heard him say he's a closet Kip Winger fan///

I'VE BEEN OUTED!!

379 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:49:00am

re: #376 sattv4u2

And again, thats not what he ran on!

Bush ran on no nation building.
Things change.

380 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:49:37am

re: #376 sattv4u2

And again, thats not what he ran on!

Yep, it's a big flipflop. Happens.

381 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:49:41am

re: #379 Varek Raith

Bush ran on no nation building.
Things change.

Good morning, Magical Balance Fairy!

:)

382 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:49:43am

re: #379 Varek Raith

Bush ran on no nation building.
Things change Shit happens.

383 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:50:32am

re: #380 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yep, it's a big flipflop. Happens.

I used to believe in Santa, then I flipflopped.

384 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:51:09am

Can we get a reasonable thread here?

385 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:51:56am

re: #377 RogueOne

I heard him say he's a closet Kip Winger fan///

To my credit, I've never been a Winger fan.

Youtube Video
386 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:52:08am

I won't beat him up for not closing Gitmo. Even though he used it to beat up on his opponents during the election, he was ill informed when he was a candidate. OTOH, I'll happily point out that their plan to put these idiots on trial in the states was both a dumb idea and almost a complete disaster.

387 Varek Raith  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:52:15am

re: #384 mdey

Can we get a reasonable thread here?

Request Denied.

388 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:52:47am

re: #385 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

To my credit, I've never been a Winger fan.

[Video]

I'm more innocent than thou. Never heard of him/her.

389 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:53:08am

BRB

390 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:53:36am

I have been looking under recent pages to find the article I posted and I cannot find it. Was it removed?

391 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:54:29am

re: #386 RogueOne

I won't beat him up for not closing Gitmo. Even though he used it to beat up on his opponents during the election, he was ill informed when he was a candidate. OTOH, I'll happily point out that their plan to put these idiots on trial in the states was both a dumb idea and almost a complete disaster.

"No matter where they go, there they are".

Albusteve sent me into a Buckaroo Banzai hunt last night.

392 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:55:20am

re: #386 RogueOne

I won't beat him up for not closing Gitmo. Even though he used it to beat up on his opponents during the election, he was ill informed when he was a candidate. OTOH, I'll happily point out that their plan to put these idiots on trial in the states was both a dumb idea and almost a complete disaster.

Yeah, impossible to please anyone with the Gitmo situation. My own position (already stated) is no one will find me coming apart at the seams over it. Nor have I become one of these campaign promise-counters. Not likely to, either.

He's a politician. This is what politicians do. I think he's done alright, overall.

393 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:57:08am

re: #392 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, impossible to please anyone with the Gitmo situation. My own position (already stated) is no one will find me coming apart at the seams over it. Nor have I become one of these campaign promise-counters. Not likely to, either.

He's a politician. This is what politicians do. I think he's done alright, overall.

The Baja Alabama judge has him at 8.5 on difficulty, 9.5 on artistic merit.

394 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:57:48am

re: #388 Decatur Deb

I'm more innocent than thou. Never heard of him/her.

I can't tell you too much about Kip Winger, but put it this way: Winger was this 80s hair band I wish I knew less about.

395 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:58:46am

re: #393 Decatur Deb

The Baja Alabama judge has him at 8.5 on difficulty, 9.5 on artistic merit.

I can get with that.

396 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 5:59:18am

I'm trying to decide if I like this album or not:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I think I like 1/2 of it, like this one:

AWOLNation: Kill Your Heroes

Youtube Video
397 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:00:40am

re: #393 Decatur Deb

The Baja Alabama judge has him at 8.5 on difficulty, 9.5 on artistic merit.

Luckily for him they grade on a curve cause I'm giving him a solid 4.8.

398 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:01:20am

re: #392 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #392 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The Senate are total pussies on this issue. It made it through the House.

399 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:02:08am

re: #398 mdey

re: #392 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The Senate are total pussies on this issue. It made it through the House.

Everything makes it through the house, that's why we have a senate//

400 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:02:52am

re: #383 Decatur Deb

I used to believe in Santa, then I flipflopped.

I can relate. I used to believe in a lot of crap. FF'd, majorly.

401 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:03:54am

re: #399 RogueOne

Everything makes it through the house, that's why we have a senate//

It's really true.

Keeps things interesting.

402 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:04:01am

re: #397 RogueOne

Luckily for him they grade on a curve cause I'm giving him a solid 4.8.

Yes--it's a curve, and one of our problems is that so many elections have come out with such clustering around the .50 line. We don't really have a national definition of "good".

403 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:05:51am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

Yes--it's a curve, and one of our problems is that so many elections have come out with such clustering around the .50 line. We don't really have a national definition of "good".

That's probably a good thing. /

404 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:07:21am

re: #403 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That's probably a good thing. /

Saves us from extremism, but makes it hard to adapt to new realities.

405 mdey  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:09:20am

re: #403 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Around the .50 line? How is that a good thing?

406 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:10:23am

re: #405 mdey

Around the .50 line? How is that a good thing?

Was a response to "We don't really have a national definition of "good"."

407 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:12:44am

re: #390 PhillyPretzel

I have been looking under recent pages to find the article I posted and I cannot find it. Was it removed?

It's showing up for me, 2nd listing down.

408 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:14:11am

Another hot one here today:

USA Today: Heat Stroke
Image: CQDdM.jpg

409 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:15:53am

Good Morning all!

I just learned about this.

I think I may be screaming all day.

How is everyone?

410 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:15:54am

re: #408 RogueOne

Another hot one here today:

USA Today: Heat Stroke
Image: CQDdM.jpg

The sun is going to need a cigarette soon!

411 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:19:26am

re: #409 ggt

Good Morning all!

I just learned about this.

I think I may be screaming all day.

How is everyone?

Female reaction: "Outrageous hypocritical pig!"

Male reaction: "They test for Viagra?"

412 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:19:31am

things just got more miserable in Phoenix
Power out as Phoenix temps hit record 118

About 4,000 homes in the metropolitan Phoenix area are without power - and air-conditioning - on a record-shattering day of heat in one of the nation's hottest cities.

Phoenix hit a high temperature of 118 degrees on Saturday, topping a 10-year-old record of 116 degrees for the date.

413 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:19:42am

re: #409 ggt

Good Morning all!

I just learned about this.

When asked about his young passenger, Mecklenborg said, "I understand the interest in the DUI part, I guess, but the rest is a personal matter."

A personal matter?

Perhaps this is Rep. Mecklenborg's eureka moment.

Pro-choice Americans have always argued that a woman's sex life is a personal matter, and that any decisions involving her body are her business. We understand only too well why Mecklenborg would rather we stop asking questions about his private life.

.

414 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:23:31am

re: #412 Killgore Trout
That is bad. It sounds like it is part of the city. I would getting myself to a cool place.

415 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:23:53am

re: #411 Decatur Deb

Female reaction: "Outrageous hypocritical pig!"

Male reaction: "They test for Viagra?"

"For the fifth time, officer,, I SWEAR that is not a concealed gun in my pants"

416 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:24:26am

re: #412 Killgore Trout

re: #414 PhillyPretzel

That is bad. It sounds like it is part of the city. I would getting myself to a cool place.

It's okay

It's a "dry" heat!!

417 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:25:46am

re: #416 sattv4u2
I would still be headed to the mall or a cool bookstore. :)

418 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:26:15am

re: #416 sattv4u2

re: #414 PhillyPretzel

It's okay

It's a "dry" heat!!

So's a microwave. I like the heat. I'm still planning on retiring in AZ, or mexico, it's almost the same place either way.

419 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:29:24am

re: #418 RogueOne

So's a microwave. I like the heat. I'm still planning on retiring in AZ, or mexico, it's almost the same place either way.

Already have my place picked out

Pawleys Island, South Carolina

Just looking at some time to upgrade from the (very nice) condo complex we have a unit in to a cottage closer to the beach itself

420 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:30:40am

I've had comcast for years and I'm having my first problem with dropping 'net connection. New modem has helped but hasn't fixed the whole problem. I'm still dropping but only a couple times a day and only for a minute or so, before it would be out for an hour at a time. They were supposed to come test last week but I guess they decided to skip it since they never showed.

421 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:32:07am

re: #420 RogueOne

I've had comcast for years and I'm having my first problem with dropping 'net connection. New modem has helped but hasn't fixed the whole problem. I'm still dropping but only a couple times a day and only for a minute or so, before it would be out for an hour at a time. They were supposed to come test last week but I guess they decided to skip it since they never showed.

They should be able to 'ping' the line from their office to the modem

422 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:32:36am

re: #419 sattv4u2

I fell in love with mountains when I was a college freshman in TN. A few years later the army sent me to southern AZ and I got to see how great the mountains are when they aren't covered by all those stupid trees. I like the desert, the mountains, and the heat.

423 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:34:06am

re: #422 RogueOne

I fell in love with mountains when I was a college freshman in TN. A few years later the army sent me to southern AZ and I got to see how great the mountains are when they aren't covered by all those stupid trees. I like the desert, the mountains, and the heat.

Been there (southern AZ as well as the Tennessee mts,, even saw Dolly Parton :) )) but I've always been a "beach" person

424 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:34:16am

re: #421 sattv4u2

They should be able to 'ping' the line from their office to the modem

Yeah. I had some stupid tech the first time I called so I called a friend of the wife who did a check for me. They keep track of everything btw, he knew how many times I had dropped connection going back at least a month. It didn't seem like the modem would be the issue to me but he thought otherwise. Looks like we were both sorta right.

425 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:35:02am

Been surfing on youtube. Seems this is an unofficial video, but I'm impressed.

Of course, I love the song as well.

426 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:35:43am

re: #424 RogueOne

Yeah. I had some stupid tech the first time I called so I called a friend of the wife who did a check for me. They keep track of everything btw, he knew how many times I had dropped connection going back at least a month. It didn't seem like the modem would be the issue to me but he thought otherwise. Looks like we were both sorta right.

Did they supply the odem?

If so, go get one at Radio Shack or Wal Mart or wherever , try it out, and if it works tell ComCast that you need a new "free" one and return the one you bought

427 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:36:06am

I found my posted article. How did it end up under featured pages?

428 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:36:25am

re: #424 RogueOne

re: #426 sattv4u2

Did they supply the Modem?

If so, go get one at Radio Shack or Wal Mart or wherever , try it out, and if it works tell ComCast that you need a new "free" one and return the one you bought

damn ,, hour 24 1/2 of being awake

429 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:36:46am

re: #427 PhillyPretzel

I found my posted article. How did it end up under featured pages?

you'll be getting a bill in the mail

430 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:41:40am

re: #411 Decatur Deb

Female reaction: "Outrageous hypocritical pig!"

Male reaction: "They test for Viagra?"

Did he have a condom in his wallet? Is that too personal to ask?

431 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:41:58am

re: #426 sattv4u2

Did they supply the odem?

If so, go get one at Radio Shack or Wal Mart or wherever , try it out, and if it works tell ComCast that you need a new "free" one and return the one you bought

I bought the old one. I picked up a new one at WM Friday. As I was pulling in there was a guy driving an old beat up pick-up truck leaving with a kids massive wooden jungle gym. It must have been a display model because it was per-assembled. They had some guy with dreadlocks sitting on top of it, not sure why. He was sitting at least 7' high off the bed of the truck. Would have made a good "people of wal-mart" submission.

432 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:43:15am

re: #429 sattv4u2
Whom ever sent it will be getting it back unpaid. I have no money.

433 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:43:52am

re: #431 RogueOne

some guy with dreadlocks sitting on top of it, not sure why.

For the view, mon,, and pass the ganja!//

434 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:44:52am

re: #433 sattv4u2

I'd kill for dreadlocks.

435 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:45:08am

re: #430 ggt

Did he have a condom in his wallet? Is that too personal to ask?

"Good Catholic boy" Condom equals intent to sin. Twenty-six yr old equals "near occasion of sin".

436 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:45:22am

re: #425 ggt

Been surfing on youtube. Seems this is an unofficial video, but I'm impressed.

Of course, I love the song as well.

She has a great voice.

437 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:46:21am

re: #434 RogueOne

I'd kill for dreadlocks.

available for 10 bucks

[Link: www.google.com...]

438 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:46:27am

re: #435 Decatur Deb

"Good Catholic boy" Condom equals intent to sin. Twenty-six yr old equals "near occasion of sin".

I can't prove it but I'd bet Cincy is majority catholic.

439 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:47:17am

An important difference between Israelis and Palestinians....
Hundreds rally in Jerusalem after arrest of Shas spiritual leader's son

Demonstrators gather outside Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, after police arrest him for questioning over incitement to racism and violence.
440 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:48:44am

re: #438 RogueOne

I can't prove it but I'd bet Cincy is majority catholic.

Cincy is strange. When I lived there (10 or so years ago), it was still segregated. Seriously. There is a large Jewish population and the Hispanics were just starting to appear.

A few mega-churches. There is an very entrenched aristocracy (for lack of a better word). Very conservative.

441 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:49:21am

re: #439 Killgore Trout
True. A very important difference.

442 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:50:07am

re: #440 ggt

Cincy is strange. When I lived there (10 or so years ago), it was still segregated. Seriously. There is a large Jewish population and the Hispanics were just starting to appear.

A few mega-churches. There is an very entrenched aristocracy (for lack of a better word). Very conservative.

I didn't know you were from Cincy. I grew up there (until HS) and most of my family still lives there. I have a couple large customers in the area so I'm always there.

443 BongCrodny  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:50:42am

re: #347 PhillyPretzel

Just posted an article on another Republican running for President. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]


How's a guy with a name Thaddeus McCotter get a middle name like "George," anyway?

A name like Thaddeus McCotter deserves a middle name like "Beauregard" or "Pepperwinkle" or "Fitzsomething."

You remember the Dr. Seuss character Sylvester McMonkey McBean? There you have it: Thaddeus McMonkey McCotter.

444 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:51:06am

re: #439 Killgore Trout

re: #441 PhillyPretzel

True. A very important difference.

EXCEPT ,,,
Some of the protesters attacked two cars carrying Arabs, in which one passenger was injured and required medical treatment.

not good

445 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:51:12am

re: #440 ggt

There is an very entrenched aristocracy (for lack of a better word). Very conservative.

You're right about that, it's always been like that. There's a lot of "old" money in town.

446 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52:12am

re: #438 RogueOne

I can't prove it but I'd bet Cincy is majority catholic.

Yup.

[Link: www.thearda.com...]

447 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:52:58am

re: #442 RogueOne

I didn't know you were from Cincy. I grew up there (until HS) and most of my family still lives there. I have a couple large customers in the area so I'm always there.

NO, I am NOT from Cincy. We were transferred there for a couple of years. The longest couple of years of my life. I an "techincally" from Detroit, but Dad got transferred a lot too . . . .

448 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:53:23am

re: #446 Decatur Deb

Yup.

[Link: www.thearda.com...]

Catholics in name only.

449 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:53:27am

re: #440 ggt

Cincy is strange. When I lived there (10 or so years ago), it was still segregated. Seriously. There is a large Jewish population and the Hispanics were just starting to appear.

A few mega-churches. There is an very entrenched aristocracy (for lack of a better word). Very conservative.

Mecklenborg - pro life is for FETUS ONLY! Who gives a damn about the heartbeats of the already-born people on the street, who might get in the way of my drunken driving! That's personal, pity me!

Dumb bigot.

450 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:53:48am

re: #446 Decatur Deb

Yup.

[Link: www.thearda.com...]

There is a ton of old beautiful churches all around town. I'll give Catholics credit, they know how to build a pretty church.

451 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:54:05am

re: #442 RogueOne

I didn't know you were from Cincy. I grew up there (until HS) and most of my family still lives there. I have a couple large customers in the area so I'm always there.

fat, tall, or both !?!?

//

452 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:54:05am

re: #446 Decatur Deb

Yup.

[Link: www.thearda.com...]

I love thearda.com. Great resource. I send people there a lot.

453 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:54:55am

re: #447 ggt

NO, I am NOT from Cincy. We were transferred there for a couple of years. The longest couple of years of my life. I an "techincally" from Detroit, but Dad got transferred a lot too . . .

My family ended in Cincy from Detroit too. I was real young (5?) when we arrived. You sure we're not related?

454 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:58:08am

re: #443 BongCrodny

How's a guy with a name Thaddeus McCotter get a middle name like "George," anyway?

A name like Thaddeus McCotter deserves a middle name like "Beauregard" or "Pepperwinkle" or "Fitzsomething."

You remember the Dr. Seuss character Sylvester McMonkey McBean? There you have it: Thaddeus McMonkey McCotter.

Talk to his parents. I believe they are ones who gave him that one.

455 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:58:51am

re: #439 Killgore Trout

An important difference between Israelis and Palestinians...
Hundreds rally in Jerusalem after arrest of Shas spiritual leader's son

Those Jews. They really don't know how to have a proper riot :p

456 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 6:59:23am

IIRC, Larry Flynt AND another infamous persn (I can't remember the name) was Mayor.

NO sex for sale in Cinci, it's all in Kentucky. So they have to go across the border to get caught.

OMG, the "young lady" was probably a prostitute or stripper. I'm just remembering the specifics of Cinci hypocrisy.

457 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:00:18am

re: #456 ggt

IIRC, Larry Flynt AND another infamous persn (I can't remember the name) was Mayor.

NO sex for sale in Cinci, it's all in Kentucky. So they have to go across the border to get caught.

OMG, the "young lady" was probably a prostitute or stripper. I'm just remembering the specifics of Cinci hypocrisy.

Jerry Springer?

458 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:00:45am

re: #456 ggt

IIRC, Larry Flynt AND another infamous persn (I can't remember the name) was Mayor.

NO sex for sale in Cinci, it's all in Kentucky. So they have to go across the border to get caught.

OMG, the "young lady" was probably a prostitute or stripper. I'm just remembering the specifics of Cinci hypocrisy.

Jerry Springer

459 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:01:10am

re: #456 ggt

IIRC, Larry Flynt AND another infamous persn (I can't remember the name) was Mayor.

NO sex for sale in Cinci, it's all in Kentucky. So they have to go across the border to get caught.

OMG, the "young lady" was probably a prostitute or stripper. I'm just remembering the specifics of Cinci hypocrisy.

Jerry Springer was city council, IIRC, until he paid a Kentucky working girl with a personal check.

460 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:01:21am

re: #457 marjoriemoon

less than 30 seconds,,,, show off fast typer!!

461 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:01:39am

re: #460 sattv4u2

less than 30 seconds,,, show off fast typer!!

Neener neener neener!

462 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:02:08am

re: #459 Decatur Deb

Jerry Springer was city council, IIRC, until he paid a Kentucky working girl with a personal check.

No,, he was the mayor

He is a former Democratic mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio,

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

463 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:02:09am

Jerry Springer!

464 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:02:49am

re: #462 sattv4u2

No,, he was the mayor

He is a former Democratic mayor of Cincinnati, Ohio,

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Even stupider.

465 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:03:21am

re: #464 Decatur Deb

Even stupider.

Like Chicago, the corruption is bi-partisan.

466 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:03:26am

iirc,, Springer was "caught" because he paid for the hooker with a check

A CHECK!

467 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:03:36am

Another write-up on Cory Maye:

Maye takes plea, will soon be free
[Link: www.clarionledger.com...]

In 2009, the Mississippi Appeals Court concluded Maye deserved a second trial, contending that his trial should have been held, as he requested, in Jefferson Davis County since that is where the crime took place.

In December, the state Supreme Court ordered a second trial, but for a different reason: The trial judge erred in not telling the jury it could consider Maye's claim of self-defense.

On Friday, District Attorney Hal Kitrell said prosecutors believed they had no choice but to agree to the plea bargain because of all the post-trial rulings.

"That caused concern to our office," he said. "Obviously we had to re-evaluate the case, which involved talking with the family. We felt it was in the best interest of the family and the state of Mississippi to go forward with the plea."

One thing the article doesn't point out, but should have, is the prosecutors medical expert has been entirely discredited and his testimony has been shot full of holes. That had to play a role in deciding not to re-try the case.

468 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:05:56am

re: #466 sattv4u2

iirc,, Springer was "caught" because he paid for the hooker with a check

A CHECK!

All that deviltry will be driven out of the Covington area when the Ark In the Park is built.

469 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:06:11am

re: #466 sattv4u2

iirc,, Springer was "caught" because he paid for the hooker with a check

A CHECK!

yup,, from the same WIKI linky

He resigned in 1974 after admitting to hiring a prostitute.[10] The episode was uncovered when a police raid on a Fort Wright, Kentucky "massage parlor" unearthed a check Springer had written for its "services"

470 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:06:39am

re: #456 ggt

IIRC, Larry Flynt AND another infamous persn (I can't remember the name) was Mayor.

NO sex for sale in Cinci, it's all in Kentucky. So they have to go across the border to get caught.

OMG, the "young lady" was probably a prostitute or stripper. I'm just remembering the specifics of Cinci hypocrisy.

All the fun stuff was in Newport, KY a.k.a. "sin city". They've cleaned it up a bit and completely ruined it.

471 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:08:12am

re: #470 RogueOne

All the fun stuff was in Newport, KY a.k.a. "sin city". They've cleaned it up a bit and completely ruined it.

The disastrous Beverly Hills Supper Club fire brought too much attention to the area.

472 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:10:01am

re: #466 sattv4u2

iirc,, Springer was "caught" because he paid for the hooker with a check

A CHECK!

Jerrrry! Jerrrry! Jerrrry!

473 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:12:19am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

The disastrous Beverly Hills Supper Club fire brought too much attention to the area.

I had forgotten that. My mom used to hang around that area as a youngster, she has some great stories. She was serving drinks in a bar at 15.

474 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:12:46am

re: #472 marjoriemoon

Jerrry! Jerrry! Jerrry!

Dummy! Dummy! Dummy!

475 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:14:52am

Daytime stuff. BBL

476 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:15:41am

re: #471 Decatur Deb

My great-grandparents bought a house 100 years ago that used to be part of an old brewery. When they switched to trucks from horses they turned the stables into small houses. You only had less than 3' between the houses, no front yards, concrete tiered levels backyards, and cobblestone streets. It was a neat little neighborhood 30 years ago, then it went to hell.

477 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:17:12am

My husband and I found Cincy was a really good example of "the more repressed, the more perverted".

478 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:18:42am

re: #477 ggt

My husband and I found Cincy was a really good example of "the more repressed, the more perverted".

I was hanging out in clubs with my older cousins as a late teen. Good times. Back then the drinking age was only 18 in OH so we'd all head there from Indy for the weekends.

479 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:19:03am

Have a great day all!

480 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:20:41am

re: #477 ggt

My husband and I found Cincy was a really good example of "the more repressed, the more perverted".

Moved to Atlanta about 12 years ago after having lived in Greensboro NC for a year several years before we moved here

Both would be considered the middle of "The Bible Belt", and it's true
I've never sen so many houses of faith of various denominations

I've also never seen so many strip clubs and "massage" parlors

481 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:21:02am

re: #474 sattv4u2

Dummy! Dummy! Dummy!

Well he did beat up on some Nazis. (It's a 4 parter).

Youtube Video
482 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:23:23am

re: #481 marjoriemoon

Well he did beat up on some Nazis. (It's a 4 parter).

[Video]

Geraldo Rivera trying to break a chair with his nose is still THE classic benchmark

Youtube Video
483 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:28:18am

re: #482 sattv4u2

Geraldo Rivera trying to break a chair with his nose is still THE classic benchmark

[Video]

Someone should hit him every time he's on tv. That's a reality show I'd watch.

484 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:32:35am

re: #482 sattv4u2

Now that's a rumble!

485 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:33:33am

re: #483 RogueOne

Someone should hit him every time he's on tv. That's a reality show I'd watch.

Could be a new pay per view/ interactive game show

Like Whack-A-Mole, you pay to guess which hole he'll pop his head out of and if your right someone whacks him with a mallet and YOU win a prize!

486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:33:38am

On VH1, Jake and Elwood just finished being chased through a mall.

487 Unions = Innovation slash slash  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:36:13am

re: #486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On VH1, Jake and Elwood just finished being chased through a mall.

Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Three Orange Whips!

488 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:37:50am

re: #486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On VH1, Jake and Elwood just finished being chased through a mall.

I'm watching the closing augments of the Casey Anthony trial

489 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:39:02am

re: #488 HoosierHoops

I'm watching the closing augments of the Casey Anthony trial paint dry


just as interesting,, I've been sending it to all the networks since 8:30

490 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:39:15am

re: #488 HoosierHoops

I'm watching the closing augments of the Casey Anthony trial

and you told people?

491 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:40:04am

re: #490 RogueOne

and you told people?

Hell,, at least I'm getting PAID to monitor it

492 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:41:03am

Have you guys seen:

Tucker & Dale vs Evil
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

I watched it for the 2nd time the other night. That's my new favorite movie.

493 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:42:52am

re: #223 sattv4u2

A moonbat doing what a moonbat does

UNLESS that "jewish student" was born and raised in Israel and witnessed 1st hand what was transpiring, he had no more insight into it (although he may have had more interest) than any other "student" of the day

Yes. There are some interesting points here:

1. She's not above the "some of my best friends are Jews" retort.

and, more important

2. This is about JEWS, not Israel. Her hatred and vitriol are directed to Jews! Many people of her ilk claim they have nothing against Jews; they're simply protesting the actions of a specific government. Bulls**t!

494 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:45:07am

re: #493 reuven

Yes. There are some interesting points here:

1. She's not above the "some of my best friends are Jews" retort.

and, more important

2. This is about JEWS, not Israel. Her hatred and vitriol are directed to Jews! Many people of her ilk claim they have nothing against Jews; they're simply protesting the actions of a specific government. Bulls**t!

Yup ,,, totally "coincidental" that the gov;t whose actions they are protesting juts HAPPENS to be a Jewish gov't!!
Yup ,,,, just a coinkiydinky,.,,, nothing to see here ,, move along !!

:0

495 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:45:17am

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

Walker's daughter wrote a good article recently,
How my mother's fanatical views tore us apart. However your whole guilt by association schtick is some weak sauce.

Can't I still hate Oprah, just because?

I've still never forgiven her for this:

Youtube Video
496 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:50:27am

re: #223 sattv4u2

A moonbat doing what a moonbat does
That happened shortly after my wedding to a Jewish law student. as if him being Jewish gave her some better insight into the situation than if she had married a Mormon

This is a bit of a stretch, but I think there's a "dogwhistle" statement made here to radical lesbian feminists. (Oh no! I'm starting to sound like Limbaugh!): Marriage is slavery. She was enslaved by a Jew. Therefore all Jews are slave masters.

497 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:51:14am

re: #495 reuven

Can't I still hate Oprah, just because?

How bout for begetting Dr. Phil!!

498 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:52:36am

re: #496 reuven

This is a bit of a stretch, but I think there's a "dogwhistle" statement made here to radical lesbian feminists. (Oh no! I'm starting to sound like Limbaugh!): Marriage is slavery. She was enslaved by a Jew. Therefore all Jews are slave masters.

Nahh ,, I think it was interjected for the "some of my best friends are Jews" angle you, I and others stated

499 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:54:39am

re: #256 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Classic antisemitic tokenism...should be heaped on the "some of my best friends are..." pile.

I wonder who she thinks she is kidding with this crapola.

San Francisco Liberals!

500 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 7:58:57am

re: #499 reuven

San Francisco Liberals!

There are liberals in San Francisco ??

501 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:03:07am

re: #500 sattv4u2

There are liberals in San Francisco ??

and Car Smackers!

[Link: www.quora.com...]

(One of the many reasons I rarely set foot in San Francisco, even though I live 40 minutes south of it. )

502 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:06:08am

I can't believe closing augments at the Anthony trial

503 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:07:06am

re: #501 reuven

and Car Smackers!

[Link: www.quora.com...]

(One of the many reasons I rarely set foot in San Francisco, even though I live 40 minutes south of it. )

Brilliant

Car,,, 4000 lbs (+/-) of metals, INCLUDING steel

Bike,,, 30 lbs of tin, or graphite composite,or aluminum,,


GENTLEMEN ,, PLACE YOUR BETS!!

504 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:07:38am

re: #502 HoosierHoops

I can't believe closing augments at the Anthony trial

I still can't believe you're watching it

505 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:09:24am

Great and sad story all at the same time. Fitting for the 4th:

Soldier leaves legacy much larger than 'he was gay'
[Link: www.cnn.com...]


Cpl. Andrew Charles Wilfahrt, 31, is believed to be the first gay U.S. soldier to die in battle since President Obama signed the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," the policy forcing gays in the military to hide that part of their lives or risk being kicked out.
.....
Andrew was so well-liked his comrades named a combat outpost for the soldier with the infectious smile. COP Wilfahrt sits 6 kilometers from Kandahar. To his buddies, it is not named for a gay soldier, but for one who fought with valor.

"Mom, everyone knows. Nobody cares," he told his mother in their final conversation, a phone call from Afghanistan on Thanksgiving.
.....
Andrew met with a retired gay Marine in Minneapolis bars and coffee shops in the months before signing up. He wanted to know the pros and cons of being gay in the military.

He'd been volunteering at food shelters, animal shelters, an AIDS hospice, voter-registration drives and other non-profit initiatives. At 29, he was living with his parents and looking for more out of life.

The retired Marine says Andrew told him he wanted to serve so a soldier with a wife and children wouldn't have to go fight.

"He wasn't making a statement" about being gay. "He was doing it for everybody else," says Dan, who asked that his last name not be used. "He will forever be my hero because he joined for the right reasons. He was a silent part of the gay community, but it's just unspeakable how big of an impact he's had now."
.....
Andrew earned the nickname Slovak for his macho speak and exaggerated, arrow-straight gait. Andrew was like that, a ham who figured out a way to fit in. When he laughed, he threw his head back, closed his eyes and let out a sound that made everyone else chuckle.

In combat, he rode with two other soldiers. One was African-American, the other from Hawaii. They were known as "Team Minority."

506 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:09:57am

re: #504 sattv4u2

I still can't believe you're watching it

I was in Florida last week on Business (got back Friday AM). Everyone, everywhere, is glued to their TVs, and the only thing on TV is Casey Anthony. (My theory: Nancy Grace killed that baby, but I'm a kook.)

Oh! And here I am on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad:

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

507 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:10:59am

re: #504 sattv4u2

I still can't believe you're watching it

on the big screen..On the computer..There is no good defense argument

508 Stanghazi  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:12:12am

re: #506 reuven

I was in Florida last week on Business (got back Friday AM). Everyone, everywhere, is glued to their TVs, and the only thing on TV is Casey Anthony. (My theory: Nancy Grace killed that baby, but I'm a kook.)

Oh! And here I am on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad:

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

You are not alone in that kooky thought. "tot mom"

509 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:12:45am

re: #506 reuven

My theory: Nancy Grace killed that baby, but I'm a kook.

Nahh ,, she hid it in Al Capones Vault so after this is over Geraldo can get a re-do!!!

510 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:13:14am

Here is Dennis Kucinich (D-ouchebag) defending his meeting with al-Assad during an interview with Eliot Spitzer.

Youtube Video

What a fucking moron.

511 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:13:54am

re: #510 NJDhockeyfan

Here is Dennis Kucinich (D-ouchebag) defending his meeting with al-Assad during an interview with Eliot Spitzer.

[Video]What a fucking moron.


ummm, which one!?!?

512 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:18:38am

re: #511 sattv4u2

ummm, which one!?!?

LOL...all of the above however Spitzer drilled him pretty good. WTF is wrong with Kucinich? Has Jimmy Carter been giving him lessons on how to defend murderous regimes?

513 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:18:45am

re: #501 reuven

and Car Smackers!

[Link: www.quora.com...]

(One of the many reasons I rarely set foot in San Francisco, even though I live 40 minutes south of it. )

Sounds like he has psychological problems other than being a moonbat spaz. Isn't Belgium common law where everyone is considered "guilty until proven innocent"? Meh. Probably not even worth analyzing. I'll admit when I was in my early 20s I was a biking asshole too. Today I just call them "bike Nazis".

514 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:21:00am

The defense is completely lame this morning

515 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:22:57am

re: #513 Gus 802

Sounds like he has psychological problems other than being a moonbat spaz. Isn't Belgium common law where everyone is considered "guilty until proven innocent"? Meh. Probably not even worth analyzing. I'll admit when I was in my early 20s I was a biking asshole too. Today I just call them "bike Nazis".

I love the ones that obey the traffic laws they want to obey (they take up a lane,,, signal when turning,,, etc) but have no problem breaking the ones they don't want to (weaving in and out of cars at a red light to get up front ,,, NOT stopping at red lights/ stop signs ,, going against the grain of traffic if it's more convenient)

516 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:23:11am

re: #514 HoosierHoops

The defense is completely lame this morning

I'm glad I'm missing it. I have the blues music channel on my DirecTV playing wonderful music.

517 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:24:54am

re: #516 NJDhockeyfan

I'm glad I'm missing it. I have the blues music channel on my DirecTV playing wonderful music.

Original Twighlight Zone marathon on Sci fi

518 Stanghazi  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:25:04am

re: #516 NJDhockeyfan

I'm glad I'm missing it. I have the blues music channel on my DirecTV playing wonderful music.

Wimbledon final here.

519 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:25:48am

re: #513 Gus 802

There isn't a whole lot of biking in Indy (we came in 2nd on the "Least Active" list: [Link: www.menshealth.com...] ) which is quite a bit different than what I ran into in Denver. They're much better set up than Indy for bikers. We have idiots riding in and out of traffic, running red lights, and just being a general nuisance.

520 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:25:52am

re: #517 sattv4u2

Original Twighlight Zone marathon on Sci fi

re: #518 Stanley Sea

Wimbledon final here.

that too

(I AM at work this morning,, at least for another half hour or so)

521 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:27:18am

re: #515 sattv4u2

I love the ones that obey the traffic laws they want to obey (they take up a lane,,, signal when turning,,, etc) but have no problem breaking the ones they don't want to (weaving in and out of cars at a red light to get up front ,,, NOT stopping at red lights/ stop signs ,, going against the grain of traffic if it's more convenient)

Exactly. I was following one idiot bike messenger once in downtown Denver. He was in the middle lane of a six lane city street. So, I figured since he was going pretty fast and was in the middle of the street -- and while he was pretending to be a car -- I'd follow him since it was also a turn lane ahead that I was on. Safe following distance. Nope, didn't satisfy this twirp. He turns around and flips me the bird.

One morning I saw another bike messenger try to beat the light rail. He lost. Never found out what happened to him but it smacked him and the rear of his bicycle pretty good. They took him away in a stretcher with a neck brace and all. He seemed conscious but way out of it.

522 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:27:56am

Since we're all sharing....TV on for moving pictures but still listening to music. Currently:

This Is Going To Hurt
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

523 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:31:27am

You have got to be kidding me.. The closing in the Anthony case is lame

524 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:31:41am

re: #519 RogueOne

There isn't a whole lot of biking in Indy (we came in 2nd on the "Least Active" list: [Link: www.menshealth.com...] ) which is quite a bit different than what I ran into in Denver. They're much better set up than Indy for bikers. We have idiots riding in and out of traffic, running red lights, and just being a general nuisance.

I've seen a lot of road cyclists in California so far. Denver gets some but isn't as popular as advertised. It's high but it isn't massive. They have those way overpriced (credit and debit card only) community bike stations. No cash BTW. Mountain biking is pretty big and you can see a lot of people on the weekends driving around with the bikes on the racks.

525 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:32:10am

My neighbors were still shooting off fireworks at 12:30 last night so I'm getting even. Wife is already gone so the windows are open and the music is loud enough to vibrate the glass next door.

526 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:32:50am

re: #525 RogueOne

My neighbors were still shooting off fireworks at 12:30 last night so I'm getting even. Wife is already gone so the windows are open and the music is loud enough to vibrate the glass next door.

Music war? ;)

527 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:34:29am

re: #524 Gus 802

I've seen a lot of road cyclists in California so far. Denver gets some but isn't as popular as advertised. It's high but it isn't massive. They have those way overpriced (credit and debit card only) community bike stations. No cash BTW. Mountain biking is pretty big and you can see a lot of people on the weekends driving around with the bikes on the racks.

Just to see people walking, riding bikes, and using public transportation was weird for awhile. The only activity most people in Indy get is standing up waiting in line for a burger and fries. Deep frying is a sport around here.

528 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:35:26am

re: #506 reuven

I was in Florida last week on Business (got back Friday AM). Everyone, everywhere, is glued to their TVs, and the only thing on TV is Casey Anthony. (My theory: Nancy Grace killed that baby, but I'm a kook.)

Oh! And here I am on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad:

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

Impossible not to be grinning on a ride like that, eh?

529 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:36:55am

re: #514 HoosierHoops

The defense is completely lame this morning

There's a defense?

530 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:37:06am

re: #527 RogueOne

Just to see people walking, riding bikes, and using public transportation was weird for awhile. The only activity most people in Indy get is standing up waiting in line for a burger and fries. Deep frying is a sport around here.

Ah. Right. It's an overall thing in the Denver area. Guess you could call it "mixed use" sports. Light rail gets packed coming in from the burbs into downtown Denver. When I was riding it the other way it looked like standing room only sometimes. This would be during commute hours. Sure saves on parking costs for those people. Mostly "park and ride" commuters there.

531 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:37:56am

I need to buy some stock in Drones...

U.S. Expands Its Drone War Into Somalia


The clandestine American military campaign to combat Al Qaeda’s franchise in Yemen is expanding to fight the Islamist militancy in Somalia, as new evidence indicates that insurgents in the two countries are forging closer ties and possibly plotting attacks against the United States, American officials say.

An American military drone aircraft attacked several Somalis in the militant group the Shabab late last month, the officials said, killing at least one of its midlevel operatives and wounding others.

The strike was carried out by the same Special Operations Command unit now battling militants in Yemen, and it represented an intensification of an American military campaign in a mostly lawless region where weak governments have allowed groups with links to Al Qaeda to flourish.

532 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:39:21am

re: #529 reine.de.tout

There's a defense?

Jose is still doing his Augment in real time

533 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:39:32am

re: #531 NJDhockeyfan

I need to buy some stock in Drones...

U.S. Expands Its Drone War Into Somalia

What happened with all of the anti-war protests?

//

534 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:40:02am

re: #528 reine.de.tout

I also asked to see the secret lab where they're building the Mitt Romney for the Hall of Presidents, post 2012. Not only did they decline, but they denied they were doing it. Conspiracy!

535 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:40:09am

re: #533 Gus 802

What happened with all of the anti-war protests?

//

Everyone but code pink got bored.

536 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:40:30am

re: #533 Gus 802

What happened with all of the anti-war protests?

//

They are taking 4 years off to rest after 8 long years of insanity.

537 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:41:38am

re: #536 NJDhockeyfan

They are taking 4 years off to rest after 8 long years of insanity.

Perzactly. But that can be our little secret.

Oops! Too late.

//

538 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:41:45am

re: #528 reine.de.tout

My company does ride capture photography systems. Sometimes I've ridden attractions like this dozens of times in a row when testing things. And I still smile.

539 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:42:09am

re: #533 Gus 802

What happened with all of the anti-war protests?

//

Haven't you heard?
Somalia and Libya aren't wars
No need to bother congress!!

540 prairiefire  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:42:34am

re: #538 reuven

My company does ride capture photography systems. Sometimes I've ridden attractions like this dozens of times in a row when testing things. And I still smile.

I love those. They caught my husband screaming like a 6 year old girl.

541 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:42:58am

re: #539 sattv4u2

Haven't you heard?
Somalia and Libya aren't wars
No need to bother congress!!

PNAC!!11ty New World Order!!11ty Republicans!!11ty

No! Wait!

//

542 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:43:55am

re: #540 prairiefire

I love those. They caught my husband screaming like a 6 year old girl.

My wife, also, on the Jurassic Park "drop" at Universal Studios in Orlando

543 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:44:28am

re: #539 sattv4u2

Somalia has just been asking for it.

544 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:44:37am

re: #538 reuven

My company does ride capture photography systems. Sometimes I've ridden attractions like this dozens of times in a row when testing things. And I still smile.

Why wouldn't you, getting paid to do that!!

545 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:45:42am

re: #540 prairiefire

re: #542 sattv4u2

My wife, also, on the Jurassic Park "drop" at Universal Studios in Orlando

((not my wife ,, but this is the ride))

Youtube Video
546 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:45:50am

Bleh. Think I just realized something from last night. Don't mix your fast food. It's like mixing booze (i.e. drinking red wine and then beer, etc.).

//

547 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:46:41am

re: #546 Gus 802

Bleh. Think I just realized something from last night. Don't mix your fast food. It's like mixing booze (i.e. drinking red wine and then beer, etc.).

//

I tried to warn you to save the candy bar (iirc) and the Jim Beam for breakfast!!

548 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:48:05am

re: #535 RogueOne

Everyone but code pink got bored.

Those kooks are still around with supporters in Congress...

Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey Chants Anti Israeli Slogans and Says She is Very 'Proud' Of The Anti Israel Activist Who Tried To Stop Netanyahu's Speech To Congress

Youtube Video
549 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:48:12am

re: #547 sattv4u2

I tried to warn you to save the candy bar (iirc) and the Jim Beam for breakfast!!

I only had a sip of the Jim Beam. Fell asleep soon after. But yeah. It probably was the other stuff. On top of that I took a couple of Naproxin Sodium tablets for foot pain.

550 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:48:51am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

551 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:50:43am

Ha! Doesn't this sound weird?

Party of ousted PM's sister wins Thai elections

The sister of exiled former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra led Thailand's main opposition party to a landslide victory in elections Sunday, heralding an extraordinary political turnaround five tumultuous years after her fugitive billionaire brother was toppled in an army coup...

552 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:51:11am

I'm sure someone posted this yesterday but doing this right before a holiday weekend just adds injury to insult....

Florida's debated welfare drug-screen measure kicks in
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

553 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:51:42am

re: #551 Gus 802

Ha! Doesn't this sound weird?

Party of ousted PM's sister wins Thai elections

Some people never learn.

554 Stanghazi  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:51:52am

re: #542 sattv4u2

My wife, also, on the Jurassic Park "drop" at Universal Studios in Orlando

The funniest roller coaster snapshots

555 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:52:25am

re: #548 NJDhockeyfan

Those kooks are still around with supporters in Congress...

[Video]

Isn't she a rep for the working class people of Marin County?

//

556 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:55:43am

re: #555 Gus 802

Isn't she a rep for the working class people of Marin County?

//

She's definitely earned the anti-Semite vote.

557 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:56:11am

Happy holidays, honcos.

I am posting this from an internet cafe in Toronto because my daughter-in-law decided that Interwebs is Teh Ebille and has disconnected their Rogers.ca account.

Just doing some cleanup at my blog after some asshat posted comments comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. He said "I'm not an Anti-Semite, I just don't like Israel's actions which are exactly like Nazi Germany."

WTF? Yes douchebag, if you believe that crap then you most certainly are an anti-Semite.

558 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:57:55am

Bleh. Gotta deal with this weather crap today. Again. Supposed to hit 100F which means 100 plus. Good news is that they're forecasting a high of 85 by Friday. Still gotta deal with this shit today though.

559 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:58:39am

The closing augments for the casey trial are interesting..She will be found guilty without the death penalty

560 RogueOne  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:59:07am

Need to get ready and get out of here. Enjoy the day folks!

561 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 8:59:30am

Charles, heads up on a tech issue. I tried to make some minor edits on a page I posted but the "save changes" button gets hidden behind my windows toolbar and I couldn't resize the window enough to get access to the save button. Maybe moving that button might make things easier.

562 Stanghazi  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:03:56am

re: #561 Killgore Trout

Charles, heads up on a tech issue. I tried to make some minor edits on a page I posted but the "save changes" button gets hidden behind my windows toolbar and I couldn't resize the window enough to get access to the save button. Maybe moving that button might make things easier.

I have to shrink the page A LOT to see it. Thanks KT!

563 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:06:57am

Some nice illustrations here:

Gallery | Science Illustration | California State University, Monterey Bay

Click on a name and browse around.

564 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:07:22am

re: #562 Stanley Sea

I have to shrink the page A LOT to see it. Thanks KT!

Maybe just a scroll feature on the edit function would be the easiest solution.

565 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:11:36am

Politician apologizes for Holocaust remark


A top Massachusetts legislative official has apologized for likening proposed identification badges for lobbyists to Jews' concentration camp tattoos.

"The idea of the badge by lobbyists to me, I kind of find that revolting," Rep. John Binienda, D-Worcester, the chairman of the House Rules Committee said Thursday.

Of the Republican proposal, he said, "Hitler during the concentration camps tattooed all of the Jewish people so he would know who was Jew and who wasn't, and that's something that I just don't go along with," The Boston Globe reported.

*FACEPALM*

566 Stanghazi  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:15:09am

re: #563 Gus 802

Some nice illustrations here:

Gallery | Science Illustration | California State University, Monterey Bay

Click on a name and browse around.

wow

haha, kinda like this one! In honor of your visit

scroll to the last image (#5)

567 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:15:27am

re: #565 NJDhockeyfan

Joanna: I dunno, it just seems wrong.

Peter Gibbons: It's NOT wrong. INITECH is wrong. INITECH is an evil corporation, all right? Chochkies is wrong. Doesn't it bother you that you have to get up in the morning and you have to put on a bunch of pieces of flair?

Joanna: Yeah, but I'm not about to go in and start taking money from the register.

Peter Gibbons: Well, maybe you should. You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.

Joanna: What?

568 Gus  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:18:07am

re: #566 Stanley Sea

wow

haha, kinda like this one! In honor of your visit

scroll to the last image (#5)

Thanks. ;) Yeah, found all those by way of this article...

[Link: www.montereycountyweekly.com...]

569 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:19:48am

Ok! I finally read the Casey Anthony defense closing. And I concur, it is weak.

Defense attorneys countered that the toddler accidentally drowned in the family swimming pool, and that her seemingly carefree mother in fact was hiding emotional distress caused by alleged sexual abuse from her father.

But, the defense has an obligation to say something, if she maintains her innocence.

570 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:22:35am

re: #569 reuven

Ok! I finally read the Casey Anthony defense closing. And I concur, it is weak.

But, the defense has an obligation to say something, if she maintains her innocence.

I've been keeping away from the various news channels since most of the reporting is on this trial. I'll be glad when it's over.

571 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:23:52am

re: #569 reuven

Ok! I finally read the Casey Anthony defense closing. And I concur, it is weak.

But, the defense has an obligation to say something, if she maintains her innocence.

Wasn't that a complete change from their opening argument? That the parents did it?

572 laZardo  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:24:55am

...am I the only one that doesn't know jack shit about the case?

/and is this supposed to be a good thing?

573 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:25:40am

re: #572 laZardo

...am I the only one that doesn't know jack shit about the case?

/and is this supposed to be a good thing?

I don't know either and frankly I don't give a shit.

574 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:26:20am

I haven't followed it too closely, but part of the defense, I believe, that she was sexually abused by her father (and brother?) and they weren't able to prove that either.

575 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:27:55am

re: #574 marjoriemoon

I haven't followed it too closely, but part of the defense, I believe, that she was sexually abused by her father (and brother?) and they weren't able to prove that either.

I think I just read that the judge told the defense attorney he could not mention that, because there was zero proof or evidence of any of that actually occurring.

576 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:29:10am

re: #571 marjoriemoon

I guess they thought that they could get at least one juror to sympathize with her using the old "I'm not guilty! I'm a victim myself" argument. And it could just work. I mean Ellie Nessler got off for murdering a man in a courtroom, using a similar defense. There's nothing more pre-meditated than that. (She murdered a man she alleged molested her son, when it was clear the case was weak and he wouldn't be convicted. Women around the country made her a hero! To me, even if the accused were guilty (which he wasn't!), stepping into a courtroom and shooting a defendant is such an egregious crime that the death penalty would be warranted.)

577 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:29:27am

re: #575 reine.de.tout

I think I just read that the judge told the defense attorney he could not mention that, because there was zero proof or evidence of any of that actually occurring.

Defense attorney IS allowed, however, to mention the "dysfunctional" family. Which I think is absolutely true, just from watching all of this play out from the time Caylee went missing. Geez.

578 darthstar  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:32:41am

Mornin' pre-drunkards and drunkards alike...

579 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:32:48am

re: #577 reine.de.tout

Defense attorney IS allowed, however, to mention the "dysfunctional" family. Which I think is absolutely true, just from watching all of this play out from the time Caylee went missing. Geez.

Did you follow the trial? My mother was telling me about it and I thought they had brought out the sexual abuse as a justifiable reason. I haven't had the chance to really listen except to the synopsis on the news.

580 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:34:19am

The pathological lying is what I think is going to sink this woman.

581 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:35:15am

re: #579 marjoriemoon

Well, if sexual abuse is a justifiable reason for murdering a random, innocent person, I don't want to be within 500' of anyone who claims to have been sexually abused, lest they murder me!

582 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:35:28am

Chomsky to Chavez: Don't spoil Venezuelan democracy


American Jewish intellectual Noam Chomsky, author of last week told the Guardian that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has too much power and is making an "assault" on the country's democracy.

"Concentration of executive power, unless it's very temporary and for specific circumstances, such as fighting World War II, is an assault on democracy. You can debate whether [Venezuela's] circumstances require it: Internal circumstances and the external threat of attack, that's a legitimate debate. But my own judgment in that debate is that it does not," Chomsky told The Observer, the Guardian's weekend paper.

Close friendships are hard to break up.

583 darthstar  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:36:28am

re: #577 reine.de.tout

Defense attorney IS allowed, however, to mention the "dysfunctional" family. Which I think is absolutely true, just from watching all of this play out from the time Caylee went missing. Geez.

Lots of people in prison come from dysfunctional families. Casey will be just one more. Whether they go with Murder 1 or some lesser charge that gives her the option of parole in 8-10 years is up to the jury. I don't think she's a sociopath - just someone who should have been picked up to be on Big Brother, Survivor, Jersey Shore or one of those other stupid reality TV shows - along with about 30% of the rest of America.

584 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:39:06am

re: #583 darthstar

I always wonder in these cases (and there are a lot of them in Florida), if the mother really intended to murder the child or, if the child died after rough, inappropriate, irresponsible discipline or handling, and the mother panicked and tried to cover her tracks.

585 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:39:22am

re: #581 reuven

Well, if sexual abuse is a justifiable reason for murdering a random, innocent person, I don't want to be within 500' of anyone who claims to have been sexually abused, lest they murder me!

Heh, well it's not a justifiable reason, of course, but it could save her from the death penalty. I think she's guilty as sin, but I'm not a juror.

The sweatlodge death trial of James Ray is one that I found interesting. Guilty of negligent homicide, not manslaughter which is disappointing to me. This man is a fraud who endangered people's lives to the point of death and the max he can get is 11 years.

586 darthstar  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:40:29am

re: #582 NJDhockeyfan

Chomsky to Chavez: Don't spoil Venezuelan democracy

Close friendships are hard to break up.

I don't get it...Chomsky is criticizing Chavez.

The judge spent over a year in jail, and was moved to house arrest pending a trial over corruption charges. Chomsky, who lobbied the Venezuelan government for her release, wrote that "[Alfani] has been subject to acts of violence and humiliations to undermine her human dignity. I am convinced that she must be set free."


You must have some other reason for hating other than his religion.

587 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:40:45am

re: #585 marjoriemoon

Heh, well it's not a justifiable reason, of course, but it could save her from the death penalty. I think she's guilty as sin, but I'm not a juror.

The sweatlodge death trial of James Ray is one that I found interesting. Guilty of negligent homicide, not manslaughter which is disappointing to me. This man is a fraud who endangered people's lives to the point of death and the max he can get is 11 years.

Oh! And to call back Oprah from earlier today: James Arthur Ray is yet another reason to dislike Oprah, who often featured him on her show. He contributed to her body count.

588 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:42:46am

And Oprah still promotes James Arthur Ray!

[Link: www.oprah.com...]

There's no excuse!

589 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:42:52am

re: #579 marjoriemoon

Did you follow the trial? My mother was telling me about it and I thought they had brought out the sexual abuse as a justifiable reason. I haven't had the chance to really listen except to the synopsis on the news.

I've watched bits and pieces of it. They brought out a charge of sexual abuse; but really, nothing there to seriously indicate that those charges were anything more than Casey's lying.

re: #580 marjoriemoon

The pathological lying is what I think is going to sink this woman.

Um, yes.

590 darthstar  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:42:59am

re: #584 reuven

Honestly, I think this was probably a case of reckless endangerment...the mother was probably stoned out of her gourd when the kid died and didn't notice for a few hours, and then panicked. But this family has exhibited (in the limited exposure of the court and media) that they don't have very good coping skills. That said, I hope she goes to prison for ten years...she'll probably be better off when she gets out and starts a new life. Her family is obviously poison.

591 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:43:20am

re: #587 reuven

Oh! And to call back Oprah from earlier today: James Arthur Ray is yet another reason to dislike Oprah, who often featured him on her show. He contributed to her body count.

Yeah Oprah was almost singularly responsible for propelling "The Secret" into a mega seller.
I was working at a bookstore at the time and we sold nearly a million dollars on that book/dvd alone.
Such a dangerous load of bullshit for spiritually hungry and confused Americans.

592 darthstar  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:44:57am

Okay...time for me to hit the road and head back to the coast where it's nice and cool...well, it's supposed to be 74 there...damn..I was hoping that heat would wait until tomorrow for the fireworks.

Play nice, everyone.

593 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:45:03am

re: #583 darthstar

Lots of people in prison come from dysfunctional families. Casey will be just one more. Whether they go with Murder 1 or some lesser charge that gives her the option of parole in 8-10 years is up to the jury. I don't think she's a sociopath - just someone who should have been picked up to be on Big Brother, Survivor, Jersey Shore or one of those other stupid reality TV shows - along with about 30% of the rest of America.

I think this woman has absolutely no conscience whatsoever. None, and whatever the reason is, doesn't matter. She's purely completely selfish and self-absorbed.

I think I read somewhere that her parents think she'll be convicted; and are just hoping for a life sentence, not death.

594 prairiefire  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:45:30am

re: #589 reine.de.tout

I've watched bits and pieces of it. They brought out a charge of sexual abuse; but really, nothing there to seriously indicate that those charges were anything more than Casey's lying.

re: #580 marjoriemoon

Um, yes.

I think all of that was smoke screen from the Defense to keep Casey off death row. SHe will be found guilty, I think.

595 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:46:11am

re: #584 reuven

I always wonder in these cases (and there are a lot of them in Florida), if the mother really intended to murder the child or, if the child died after rough, inappropriate, irresponsible discipline or handling, and the mother panicked and tried to cover her tracks.

I might also be able to wonder about that; except for the duct tape.

596 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:49:42am

re: #588 reuven

And Oprah still promotes James Arthur Ray!

[Link: www.oprah.com...]

There's no excuse!

The Secret. The Secret to bilking people out of their money by telling them to think positive thoughts. I really should have made this new age bullshit into a business, but I have a conscious.

I know a bit about sweatlodges having attended one regularly for about a year. From everything I read about James Ray, he's a charlatan that didn't care one iota about the health of his participants or the way to conduct a proper ceremony.

597 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:53:37am

Ok! Time to start celebrating the 4th. I'm going to ask the Internet how to make potato salad, then get out my peeler.

See y'all in a few days.

598 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:55:37am

re: #597 reuven
Try Cooks Illustrated.

599 What, me worry?  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:56:00am

re: #590 darthstar

Honestly, I think this was probably a case of reckless endangerment...the mother was probably stoned out of her gourd when the kid died and didn't notice for a few hours, and then panicked. But this family has exhibited (in the limited exposure of the court and media) that they don't have very good coping skills. That said, I hope she goes to prison for ten years...she'll probably be better off when she gets out and starts a new life. Her family is obviously poison.

Again, I have a limited scope not actually watching the trial, but the most they seemed to be guilty of was over-indulging her when she probably needed a lot more discipline. It seems she learned how to be an ace manipulator, lying and cheating to get her way which is basically how she led her entire life.

I have 2 friends who do this to their kids and it scares the hell out of me. They rarely discipline because they don't want to hear their kids cry. They negotiate every minutia of their lives and if the kid doesn't want to comb their hair or put on clothes, they don't have to.

600 Stanghazi  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:56:50am

re: #597 reuven

Ok! Time to start celebrating the 4th. I'm going to ask the Internet how to make potato salad, then get out my peeler.

See y'all in a few days.

Lemon juice!

601 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 9:59:10am

re: #600 Stanley Sea

Lemon juice? Instead of vinegar?

* 2 pounds Idaho Potatoes, peeled and diced (about 5 cups)
* 1/2 cup mayonnaise or light mayonnaise
* 2 tablespoons cider vinegar
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1/4 teaspoon black pepper
* 1 cup finely diced celery

Optional Add-Ins:
* 1/2 cup finely chopped onion or scallion
* 1/2 cup chopped hard-boiled egg
* 2 tablespoons freshly chopped parsley,chives or dill

602 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 10:02:15am

re: #601 reuven

My favorite is to make homemade mayo with light olive oil, mustard powder and finely chopped Rosemary.

603 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 10:03:55am

re: #602 Killgore Trout
That sounds good.

604 laZardo  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 10:09:23am

Sometimes I wonder if you guys are actually celebrating our Independence Day instead of America's. ;)

605 Stanghazi  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 10:10:41am

re: #601 reuven

Lemon juice? Instead of vinegar?

* 2 pounds Idaho Potatoes, peeled and diced (about 5 cups)
* 1/2 cup mayonnaise or light mayonnaise
* 2 tablespoons cider vinegar
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1/4 teaspoon black pepper
* 1 cup finely diced celery

Optional Add-Ins:
* 1/2 cup finely chopped onion or scallion
* 1/2 cup chopped hard-boiled egg
* 2 tablespoons freshly chopped parsley,chives or dill

Yep, instead of vinegar. I love it.

606 prairiefire  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 10:28:30am

re: #599 marjoriemoon

Again, I have a limited scope not actually watching the trial, but the most they seemed to be guilty of was over-indulging her when she probably needed a lot more discipline. It seems she learned how to be an ace manipulator, lying and cheating to get her way which is basically how she led her entire life.

I have 2 friends who do this to their kids and it scares the hell out of me. They rarely discipline because they don't want to hear their kids cry. They negotiate every minutia of their lives and if the kid doesn't want to comb their hair or put on clothes, they don't have to.

Hopefully they will turn out only mildly dysfunctional and not a psychotic like Casey. Ain't life grand?

607 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 12:45:38pm

re: #499 reuven

San Francisco Liberals!

You may not think so, but three are "San Francisco liberals!" who don't fall for that kind of thing, ask me how I know.

608 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 3, 2011 12:52:51pm

re: #501 reuven

and Car Smackers!

[Link: www.quora.com...]

(One of the many reasons I rarely set foot in San Francisco, even though I live 40 minutes south of it. )

Lol you don't come here because you read something on the internet about "car smackers"?

I've been driving in this city since 2002, never had my car smacked by cyclists. Please. Any jackass who pulls that will get an engine rev and an earful of horn.

609 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Jul 5, 2011 1:42:44am

re: #599 marjoriemoon

Again, I have a limited scope not actually watching the trial, but the most they seemed to be guilty of was over-indulging her when she probably needed a lot more discipline. It seems she learned how to be an ace manipulator, lying and cheating to get her way which is basically how she led her entire life.

I have 2 friends who do this to their kids and it scares the hell out of me. They rarely discipline because they don't want to hear their kids cry. They negotiate every minutia of their lives and if the kid doesn't want to comb their hair or put on clothes, they don't have to.

Thread's dead, but I know exactly what you're talking about.

I have a friend who uses the same so-called "parenting method" with her kid, who is already showing signs of being manipulating, narcissistic, materialistic, unruly, and well on her way to delusions about how the world actually works. I won't even babysit, because I do not trust her.

My friend thinks her child's "strong will" is cute and funny but it's going to get her in a lot of trouble, the older she gets.

The worst part is, no one will intervene and just come out and say the kid needs to be told that "no" does not mean "this is our time for 'negotiating'." I'm probably the only one with the ovaries to do it before she gets out of this bubble they are raising her in, gets in the real world, and gets her feelings seriously hurt or something worse. But I already know if I do that, that's the end of the friendship. This is where it's ending up.

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