KS Gov. Brownback Appoints Lawyer for Radical Anti-Abortion Group to State Medical Board

Across the country, extreme anti-abortion forces are on the march
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Another front opens up in the Republican Party’s total war on women’s rights, as Kansas’s religious fundamentalist Governor Sam Brownback appoints a lawyer for one of the nation’s most hateful and extreme anti-abortion groups, Operation Rescue, to the state health board that oversees abortion providers: Brownback Taps Lawyer for Anti-Abortion Activists for State Medical Board.

Brownback has tapped Rick Macias, a lawyer that has represented the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue, to serve on the Kansas Board of Healing Arts. Operation Rescue is a national group that moved its offices to Kansas in 2007. The group moved in order to focus their opposition work on Dr. George Tiller, who provided late-term abortion services in his Wichita clinic until an anti-abortion extremist murdered him in his church in May 2009.

The 15-member Board of Healing Arts handles licensing for medical doctors, physical therapists, and other health care providers. Macias would serve on the board through June 2014.

Macias has represented anti-abortion activists in cases dating back to the early ’90s in which they were accused of trespassing at Tiller’s clinic to protest. He has also represented Kansans for Life in court. Macias has a private firm specializing in adoption services, and his website includes the tag line, “Your Baby, Your Choices!” He has also supported anti-abortion electoral candidates through the Kansans for Life Political Action Committee. His brother, Archie Macias, currently serves as the treasurer of the PAC.

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Abortion rights supporters rip Brownback appointment Operation Rescue (Kansas)

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174 comments
1 jamesfirecat  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 10:55:42am

"Macias has a private firm specializing in adoption services, and his website includes the tag line, “Your Baby, Your Choices!” "

///Yes, because here in the USA there are just so many people arguing that abortions need to be mandatory regardless of the mother's thoughts on the issue!

2 gdalpert  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 10:59:16am

I feel like the progressive movement has been asleep at the wheel, while we've been losing much of the progress of the past 70 years.

I hope we'll wake up the sleeping giant in time, but I'm not optimistic.

3 Randall Gross  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:00:11am

Kansas GOP leadership has a history of putting hard right whackos in charge of things like this, like Perry in Texas we can expect a series of social conservative hijinks from Brownback until people wise up and vote him out.

4 Randall Gross  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:02:16am

This is also another reason why election 2012 is so important - we can't afford any more conservatives on the Supreme court since they will be ruling on caseloads created by these SoCons for decades to come.

5 darthstar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:03:10am

Fucking Kansas...it's like the Balkans with a dose of Pakistan thrown in for good measure.

6 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:07:26am

re: #5 darthstar

Fucking Kansas...it's like the Balkans with a dose of Pakistan thrown in for good measure.

Nowadays, I don't think Dorothy would be interested in trying to get back home.

7 darthstar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:09:08am

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Nowadays, I don't think Dorothy would be interested in trying to get back home.

"I agree, Toto...fuck this shit!"

8 albusteve  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:09:18am

onward christian soldiers

9 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:09:47am

Prediction. The medical board will refuse to certify doctors that perform abortions. Lawsuits follow. Liberals get blamed.

10 darthstar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:13:02am

re: #9 Iwouldprefernotto

Prediction. The medical board will refuse to certify doctors that perform abortions. Lawsuits follow. Liberals get blamed.

They'll refuse to certify doctors that believe they should be allowed to perform abortions.

11 KingKenrod  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:16:47am

Macias will be one of three public (non-medical doctors) members that sit on the board. It's unlikely he will be able do much damage on his own, but he will be in a position to relay inside information about the board to his anti-abortion allies.

12 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:16:51am

re: #8 albusteve

onward christian soldiers

The GOP seems to have decided that the whole "no religious test" part of the Constitution can be thrown out.

13 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:19:43am

Americans are still fat, Fox declares victory!
Michelle Obama Anti-Obesity Campaign Failing

14 allegro  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:20:11am

re: #12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The GOP seems to have decided that the whole "no religious test" part of the Constitution can be thrown out.

But...but... it has nothing to do with religion at all. It's all for the baybeeez.//

15 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:22:27am

This is worse than a Fox guarding a hen house, this is like a grand wizard providing security for the million man march.

16 albusteve  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:24:08am

re: #15 dragonfire1981

This is worse than a Fox guarding a hen house, this is like a grand wizard providing security for the million man march.

the Hells Angels were 'hired' as security for the infamous Altamont concert....mayhem and death ensued

17 iossarian  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:24:28am

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Americans are still fat, Fox declares victory!
Michelle Obama Anti-Obesity Campaign Failing

Absolutely shameless hackery. How do they sleep at night?

18 Political Atheist  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:25:01am

I think we are going to have an extra busy Justice dpt. putting down these rulings. PP is starting to sue all over the place. None of which should be necessary at all.

19 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:25:34am

Tea Party Congressman Warns of Obama Impeachment (Video)


Rep. Tim Scott said that if President Obama should invoke a clause in the 14th Amendment in order to bypass Congress and borrow beyond the debt limit, the Republican lawmaker would consider that an act worthy of impeachment.

“This president is looking to usurp congressional oversight to find a way to get it done without us. My position is that is an impeachable act from my perspective,” said Rep. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) at a meeting sponsored by the Tea Party group LowCountry 9.12 Project on Tuesday.

Fox news, course misses the big story. Not just impeachment, but also civil war and armed revolt.
Looks like he's speaking at an old age home.

20 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:26:04am

re: #17 iossarian

Absolutely shameless hackery. How do they sleep at night?

Very soundly on big piles of money.

21 Varek Raith  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:28:22am

re: #19 Killgore Trout

14th Amendment, Section 4;

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
22 Political Atheist  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:30:57am

re: #19 Killgore Trout

What if the Dems attempted to impeach that congressman for inciting violent revolt? Now that would be a quality soundbite.

23 dragonfire1981  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:36:37am

re: #17 iossarian

Absolutely shameless hackery. How do they sleep at night?

On piles of money surrounded by many beautiful women.

24 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:37:49am

re: #23 dragonfire1981

On piles of money surrounded by many beautiful women.

and the occasional rent-boy.

25 thatthatisis  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:40:08am

Out of curiosity, I just looked at the make-up of the Kansas Board of Healing Arts, which is the name of the state medical board.

The attorney is only the second non-medical professional on the Board. The other is a professor at a Catholic college, who has lectured on integrating your conservative values with progressive financial issues. So I'm guessing he's against abortion also, and looking at the expiration date of his term, he also was appointed by Brownback.

So essentially, the medical board is being salted by Brownback with a bunch of non-medical professionals who all oppose abortion.

26 darthstar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:42:32am

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Tea Party Congressman Warns of Obama Impeachment (Video)

Fox news, course misses the big story. Not just impeachment, but also civil war and armed revolt.
Looks like he's speaking at an old age home.

The key phrase there is "to find a way to get it done without us" - Yes, that is exactly what he will do.

27 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:44:52am

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Americans are still fat, Fox declares victory!
Michelle Obama Anti-Obesity Campaign Failing

Standard crypto-klan warchants in the comments.

28 Ericus58  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:45:07am

Brownback.... Brownshirt..... what the difference?

29 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:45:54am

re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

and the occasional rent-boy.

I think, at that economic level, that they lease.

30 KansasMom  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:47:42am

It's not all that Brownback is doing:

Brownback's Program to Save Marriages

I couldn't find a good article about it, but he's also initiating a program where recently released prisoners will be paired up with a Christian as part of some program to get them from relapsing back into crime. It's called Out4Life, which is kinda a funny name considering that being 'out' can be taken in a way that Brownback obviously does not intend.

I'd say the man is an embarassment, but I'm more appalled by the amount of support he's getting than anything else.

31 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:49:26am

re: #30 KansasMom

Never underestimate the average Americans desire to wrap themselves in the flag and beat you over the head with the bible.

32 Amory Blaine  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:50:52am

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Tea Party Congressman Warns of Obama Impeachment (Video)

Fox news, course misses the big story. Not just impeachment, but also civil war and armed revolt.
Looks like he's speaking at an old age home.

Good to see the GOP focused on creating jobs.

33 KansasMom  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:52:42am

re: #31 Amory Blaine

Never underestimate the average Americans desire to wrap themselves in the flag and beat you over the head with the bible.

Sweetie, I live in Kansas....I wish I had the luxury of underestimating that.

34 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:53:41am

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Tea Party Congressman Warns of Obama Impeachment (Video)

Fox news, course misses the big story. Not just impeachment, but also civil war and armed revolt.
Looks like he's speaking at an old age home.

"If Obama uses the Constitution to prevent us from murdering the economy we're holding hostage we'll impeach him."

35 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:54:22am

re: #26 darthstar

The key phrase there is "to find a way to get it done without us" - Yes, that is exactly what he will do.

I watched some of the senate debate on this earlier. This whole thing is just insanely stupid. They've convinced their base that default is the way to go but they can't do it without crashing the economy. All they're going to accomplish is convincing their base that they should do something that they can't and won't do. The base is just going to be pissed when the republicans comprimise. It's just politically stupid.

36 KansasMom  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:56:08am

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

"If Obama uses the Constitution to prevent us from murdering the economy we're holding hostage we'll impeach him."

It's like a whole new kind of crazy has been created.

37 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:58:35am

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Americans are still fat, Fox declares victory!
Michelle Obama Anti-Obesity Campaign Failing

And of course, the commenters spew racism like Klan members.

mpisi 33 minutes ago

Monkey see, monkey do!
Maybe Moochie should substitute carrot sticks for her deep fried lobster and hushpuppies??

[...]

1usamale 47 minutes ago in reply to Renne Martin

You can take the bunny out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the bunny!!!!

38 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:58:43am

re: #35 Killgore Trout

I watched some of the senate debate on this earlier. This whole thing is just insanely stupid. They've convinced their base that default is the way to go but they can't do it without crashing the economy. All they're going to accomplish is convincing their base that they should do something that they can't and won't do. The base is just going to be pissed when the republicans comprimise. It's just politically stupid.

The TPGOP might not be structurally able to compromise. Sen Rand Paul and a couple more nuts could force the Senate to a time-consuming cloture effort.

39 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 11:59:21am

re: #37 Charles

And of course, the commenters spew racism like Klan members.

How much weight can you lose by throwing up in your mouth?

40 KansasMom  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:00:27pm

re: #39 Alouette

How much weight can you lose by throwing up in your mouth?

Depends on your answer to that age old debate: spit or swallow?

41 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:01:10pm

re: #37 Charles

You can take the bunny out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the bunny!!!


Yikes!

42 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:01:23pm

Check please.

43 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:05:56pm

re: #42 Obdicut

Check please.

Real patriots don't need a check, they just default.

44 Summer Seale  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:06:45pm

From Right Wing Watch: Right-Wing Anti-Gay Video.....

Youtube Video
45 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:07:53pm

House rejects effort to prohibit funds for Libya

The House has rejected an effort to prohibit funds for the U.S. military operation against Libya.

The vote was 229-199 on Thursday. Republicans and Democrats had complained that the conflict was illegal because President Barack Obama had never sought congressional approval for the operation.

But the House turned back an amendment that would have barred the use of taxpayer dollars to continue U.S. participation in the NATO-led mission.

46 celticdragon  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:08:51pm

re: #2 gdalpert

I feel like the progressive movement has been asleep at the wheel, while we've been losing much of the progress of the past 70 years.

I hope we'll wake up the sleeping giant in time, but I'm not optimistic.

The dirty fucking hippy progressives are awake and screaming rather loudly. They are being ignored. Most American would rather watch Dancing With The Stars.

47 celticdragon  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:09:54pm

re: #37 Charles

And of course, the commenters spew racism like Klan members.

My God.

I have no words.

48 albusteve  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:11:26pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

House rejects effort to prohibit funds for Libya

sputter
sputter
stop

49 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:12:39pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

House rejects effort to prohibit funds for Libya

What was that sound? Oh, it was the War Powers Act, dying a quiet death.

50 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:12:54pm

re: #45 Killgore Trout

House rejects effort to prohibit funds for Libya

...but the fuckers did manage to block military aid to the rebels.
US House votes to bar military aid to Libyan rebels


The US House of Representatives voted Thursday to forbid the Pentagon from providing military equipment, training, advice or support to Libya's rebels.

By a 225-201 margin, lawmakers adopted an amendment to an annual spending bill restricting Washington's ability to help fighters looking to overthrow longtime Libyan strongman Moamer Kadhafi.


Hos is this supposed to be helpful? Funding the air war but refusing to arm the forces on the ground?

51 celticdragon  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:15:20pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

"If Obama uses the Constitution to prevent us from murdering the economy we're holding hostage we'll impeach him."


I think they really want a nation wide repeat of the LA Riots with the full spectrum of the ethnic and religious make up of the country at each others throats. They just might get it if they go for another impeachment of yet another democratic president. It would be the surest sign yet that our democracy is dead and that corporate monarchism has arrived.

52 albusteve  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:16:43pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

...but the fuckers did manage to block military aid to the rebels.
US House votes to bar military aid to Libyan rebels


Hos is this supposed to be helpful? Funding the air war but refusing to arm the forces on the ground?

I would think the Pentagon or CIA could funnel plenty of money to the rebels if they wanted...there is a lot that goes around congress, and much they have no clue about

53 KansasMom  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:21:29pm

re: #5 darthstar

Fucking Kansas...it's like the Balkans with a dose of Pakistan thrown in for good measure.

I see this and my immediate reaction is to try to defend my home. But then, I got nothing. Politically it's going to sh*t, and has been for a while.

We grow really nice wheat and build planes that don't crash. Much.

54 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:24:59pm

re: #52 albusteve

I would think the Pentagon or CIA could funnel plenty of money to the rebels if they wanted...there is a lot that goes around congress, and much they have no clue about

That gets into Iran-Contra type stuff. We'll just have to let the Euros do it for us. It's kind of a bummer because the post Q'Daffy government is going to be much more grateful to the Europeans rather than us. That means a lot of lost oil contracts and business opportunities.

55 blueraven  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:25:19pm

re: #37 Charles

And of course, the commenters spew racism like Klan members.

I think that was the point. This article originally from Reuters makes absolutely no mention of Michelle Obama. It is an article about the the rise of Obesity and compared different states. It has nothing to do with her.

Mississippi most obese state, Colorado least

So why does Fox introduce Ms Obama if not to illicit the racist comments they knew would be forthcoming?

56 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:27:22pm

re: #53 KansasMom

I see this and my immediate reaction is to try to defend my home. But then, I got nothing. Politically it's going to sh*t, and has been for a while.

We grow really nice wheat and build planes that don't crash. Much.

Our weird highschool/college in Pennsylvania was a sister school to a smaller highschool in Lawrence. They sent their HS graduates to us, causing great rivalry. I can remember jokes about rolling marbles across the state.

57 EiMitch  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:27:45pm

Appointing a lawyer to a medical board instead of a doctor? Check!
Deliberately setting up a conflict of interest? Check!
Ramrodding religious right social agenda? Check, and mate!

Happy, happy, joy, joy! We can finally bring back witch trials! Get your marshmallows ready, kids.

59 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:28:50pm

re: #50 Killgore Trout

...but the fuckers did manage to block military aid to the rebels.
US House votes to bar military aid to Libyan rebels


Hos is this supposed to be helpful? Funding the air war but refusing to arm the forces on the ground?

Rabid loon Dennis Kucinich is thrilled with his new Republican allies....
Rep. Dennis Kucinich: Historic Vote to End Libyan War

Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who has led the bipartisan opposition to the illegal war in Libya, will today be the principal cosponsor of a bipartisan amendment to finally and fully end the war in Libya. The bipartisan amendment to the Defense Department Appropriations Act, H.R. 2219, is expected to come up for debate in the early afternoon.

The language of the new bipartisan agreement is as follows: “None of the funds made available by this Act may be used for the use of military force against Libya.”

60 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:29:58pm

re: #58 Alouette

Another outrageous outrage brewing.

Malcolm X's love child!

61 albusteve  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:31:32pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

That gets into Iran-Contra type stuff. We'll just have to let the Euros do it for us. It's kind of a bummer because the post Q'Daffy government is going to be much more grateful to the Europeans rather than us. That means a lot of lost oil contracts and business opportunities.

of course to hide a $100m or so would be to pass on the credit to others...but it could easily be done, and maybe already has to some degree

62 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:31:40pm

re: #2 gdalpert

I feel like the progressive movement has been asleep at the wheel, while we've been losing much of the progress of the past 70 years.

I hope we'll wake up the sleeping giant in time, but I'm not optimistic.

QFT.
Even the polling shows the public more and more ambivalent about reproductive rights. This is one PR battle that we are losing, and losing badly, yet no one seems willing to lead the counter-charge. It would seem that the murders, bombings, arson, and intense personal and family harassment that go along with defending abortion has led to a lack of leadership.

There is no organized pushback because people are scared, very rightly so unfortunately. :(

63 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:32:00pm

re: #57 EiMitch

Appointing a lawyer to a medical board instead of a doctor? Check!
Deliberately setting up a conflict of interest? Check!
Ramrodding religious right social agenda? Check, and mate!

Happy, happy, joy, joy! We can finally bring back witch trials! Get your marshmallows ready, kids.

Its that biblical law you know.

64 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:39:04pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Kucinich still can't be reached for comment over his lovefest for Assad. Today AI came out and called on the UN to refer Assad and Syria to the ICC for crimes against humanity/war crimes for ongoing depredations against the Syrian people in Assad's efforts to crush the opposition.

65 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:39:57pm

Thought I'd post this:

There's intelligence involved in the overall of creation. . .I don't think we're really at the point of teaching this in the classroom. I think what we passed in the U.S. Senate in 2002 the Santorum Amendment is really what we should be doing, and that is that you teach the controversy, you teach what is fact is fact, and what is theory is theory, and you move from that proceedings, rather than from teaching some sort of different thought. And this, I really think that's the area we should concentrate on at the present time, is teaching the controversy.

Senator Sam Brownback, Larry King Live, CNN, August 23, 2005''

and

Governor's election in Kansas, 2010

Republican Sam Brownback - Jeff Colyer 530,760 63.28%
Democratic Tom Holland - Kelly Kultala 270,166 32.21%

66 Political Atheist  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:42:48pm

re: #49 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It likely never was enforceable anyway. Seems obvious from a constitutional separation of powers perspective.

67 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:43:27pm

And this creepy mug:

Image: sam-brownback.jpg

68 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:44:00pm
theBored

Karma: 0
Registered since: Dec 3, 2007 at 3:00 pm
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No. of comments posted: 0
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Recent comments

Maybe it's finally ready to comment!

69 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:44:46pm

re: #65 Gus 802

Whee fairy tales

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY

70 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:45:34pm

re: #66 Rightwingconspirator

It likely never was enforceable anyway. Seems obvious from a constitutional separation of powers perspective.

Really, that's what's ticked me off about Obama's handling of the situation since the GOP started piping up at the WPA. He could have argued that it was unconstitutional and dared them to prove otherwise, but instead he's trying to create a loophole that says "So long as there's no boots on the ground, WPA doesn't apply." Because I just know that's a loophole that's going to be further exploited by future presidents.

71 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:45:43pm

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Rabid loon Dennis Kucinich is thrilled with his new Republican allies...
Rep. Dennis Kucinich: Historic Vote to End Libyan War

Still has to go through the Senate. I doubt much of this will survive.

72 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:46:21pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

Maybe it's finally ready to comment!

What, you've never spent 4 years thinking of the right thing to say?

//

73 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:46:30pm

re: #69 WindUpBird

Whee fairy tales

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY

Goblins, gnomes, and fairy tales!

//

74 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:47:55pm

re: #73 Gus 802

Goblins, gnomes, and fairy tales!

//

They say they want to debate the theories, but then when you say that Jesus dying for our sins is also just a theory, they get all pissy.

75 KansasMom  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:48:12pm

re: #69 WindUpBird

Whee fairy tales

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY

Ooooh, I need one of those.

76 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:48:18pm

re: #72 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What, you've never spent 4 years thinking of the right thing to say?

//

I'll get back to you...

/2015

77 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:48:19pm

Hey! Where's "Milty" to fight us pinko gender feminists?

//

78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:48:25pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

"If Obama uses the Constitution to prevent us from murdering the economy we're holding hostage we'll impeach him."


Imagine the circus, it'd make the Clinton impeachment look like a city council meeting

Maybe the GOP will finally give us the future we always dreamed about in dystopian sci-fi epics

79 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:49:20pm

re: #75 KansasMom

Ooooh, I need one of those.

there's a ton of 'em :D [Link: controversy.wearscience.com...]

The one I want is the ancient astronauts building the pyramids ^_^

80 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:49:37pm

re: #58 Alouette

Another outrageous outrage brewing.

Showing that Obama's father was a jerk makes me more sympathetic to our president, not less.

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:51:00pm

re: #77 Gus 802

Hey! Where's "Milty" to fight us pinko gender feminists?

//

Probably being stupid on Huffington Post along with the rest of the braying commenter nitwits :D

Huffpo commenters aren't as bad as Fox News commenters, which is to say they merely throw garbage at each other, and not their own waste

82 Political Atheist  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:54:12pm

re: #70 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

True to form Presidents expand their power when possible. It's the nature of all 3 branches. That's why I wrote against the auto renewal of the Patriot act. Ask a Dem when Obama asserts a new authority-Do you really want the next GOP President to have that power? Or Ask any GOP guy the same "Do you want the next Dem President to have that power?

83 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 12:59:49pm

re: #82 Rightwingconspirator

True to form Presidents expand their power when possible. It's the nature of all 3 branches. That's why I wrote against the auto renewal of the Patriot act. Ask a Dem when Obama asserts a new authority-Do you really want the next GOP President to have that power? Or Ask any GOP guy the same "Do you want the next Dem President to have that power?

Thing is, they don't think about, because they want to believe that the next guy in line is going to be of the same party. "Hey, things are so 'good,' why would America not keep them in power?" Then the tide turns, the opposition comes to power, and suddenly all that power that the previous admin gathered up is a "threat" to America and everything it stands for. Then, suddenly, the anti-government nutjobs go from being shoved into the closet to having a seat at the table.

84 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:04:16pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Tea Party Congressman Warns of Obama Impeachment (Video)

Fox news, course misses the big story. Not just impeachment, but also civil war and armed revolt.
Looks like he's speaking at an old age home.


Invoking the Constitution is now an impeachable offense.

Instead of just Bachmann, Charles should put that (R-Mars) tag on the whole freaking Republican Party.

85 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:05:14pm

This is curious....
Sarah Palin in tears as husband rages over Hollywood stars ripping her in new film


Sarah Palin was reduced to tears after her husband flew into a rage over her new movie The Undefeated, sources say.

The former Alaska Governor and possible Presidential contender cried after watching Hollywood stars take pot shots at her in the documentary.

Filmmaker Stephen Bannon included attacks on her from several stars.
....
An insider told the National Enquirer: 'Sarah was brought to tears and Todd was livid after they saw the movie with a crowd of supporters in Iowa.'

'Todd said the film is going to give Sarah's enemies fresh ammunition to destroy her as she considers running for president.


I wonder if there's any truth to this.

86 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:05:56pm

re: #84 BongCrodny

Invoking the Constitution is now an impeachable offense.

Instead of just Bachmann, Charles should put that (R-Mars) tag on the whole freaking Republican Party.

That's funny. And true. These people have lost their marbles. Which is not to say we should spend like a drunken sailor (IMO). But they're still batshit crazy sometimes.

87 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:06:47pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

This is curious...
Sarah Palin in tears as husband rages over Hollywood stars ripping her in new film


I wonder if there's any truth to this.

It is true, then she might as well just throw in the towel now. If she can't handle a few actors ripping on her, imagine the sort of hysterics she'll dissolve into when she's getting ripped a new one in the debates?

88 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:07:30pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

This is curious...
Sarah Palin in tears as husband rages over Hollywood stars ripping her in new film


I wonder if there's any truth to this.


ah, not true...
I did not cry at Hollywood stars' criticism of me, insists Palin

Todd and I were overwhelmed with gratitude, and we hope everyone sees this film,' Mrs Palin wrote in a Facebook message.

89 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:07:43pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

This is curious...
Sarah Palin in tears as husband rages over Hollywood stars ripping her in new film


I wonder if there's any truth to this.

Vigorously denied, and uses the National Enquirer to paint the "maistream media".

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

90 Varek Raith  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:09:20pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

ah, not true...
I did not cry at Hollywood stars' criticism of me, insists Palin

Pretentious Hollywood actors.
Worse than politicians.

91 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:09:20pm

re: #87 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It is true, then she might as well just throw in the towel now. If she can't handle a few actors ripping on her, imagine the sort of hysterics she'll dissolve into when she's getting ripped a new one in the debates?

She's still supporting the film. If she was upset she probably just asked the film makers to take that stuff out. We'll see if those clips show up in the final version.

92 makeitstop  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:09:51pm

Jim DeMint is cool with government default.

“What I’m advocating here is, let’s use this as a point of leverage, give the president an increase, but don’t come away without real cuts from real caps and spending, and without a balanced budget,” DeMint said on FOX Business Network.

“We’re at the point where there would have to be some, you know, some serious disruptions in order not to raise [the debt ceiling],” he said. “I’m willing to do that.”

Of course you're 'willing to do that.' You're on the gubmint teat, it's not going to harm you in the least. Moron.

93 Varek Raith  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:11:15pm

Iowa Group Asks Republican Candidates To Agree That Homosexuality Is A Choice, Pornography Should Be Banned
Ban porn?
Yeah, that'll go ever real well.
/

94 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:11:44pm

re: #90 Varek Raith

Pretentious Hollywood actors.
Worse than politicians.

Humans!

/

95 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:12:11pm

re: #92 makeitstop

Jim DeMint is cool with government default.

Of course you're 'willing to do that.' You're on the gubmint teat, it's not going to harm you in the least. Moron.

South Carolina. Just another way to secede.

96 Stanghazi  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:12:38pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

ah, not true...
I did not cry at Hollywood stars' criticism of me, insists Palin

She again insinuates these people want to kill her children. WTF?

'What would make a celebrity, like you saw on screen, so hate someone that they'd seek their destruction, their death, the death of their children?"

97 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:12:39pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Iowa Group Asks Republican Candidates To Agree That Homosexuality Is A Choice, Pornography Should Be Banned
Ban porn?
Yeah, that'll go ever real well.
/

What about clothing for pets? It's about time that pets stopped walking around in the "nude".

//

98 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:13:16pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

She's still supporting the film. If she was upset she probably just asked the film makers to take that stuff out. We'll see if those clips show up in the final version.

Yeah, no thanks, I'm not big on fantasy films that aren't the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

99 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:14:23pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Iowa Group Asks Republican Candidates To Agree That Homosexuality Is A Choice, Pornography Should Be Banned
Ban porn?
Yeah, that'll go ever real well.
/

Like the proverbial lead balloon.

100 Four More Tears  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:16:35pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Iowa Group Asks Republican Candidates To Agree That Homosexuality Is A Choice, Pornography Should Be Banned
Ban porn?
Yeah, that'll go ever real well.
/

Pretty soon you'll have to be Jesus with a gun to win that nomination.

101 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:16:53pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Iowa Group Asks Republican Candidates To Agree That Homosexuality Is A Choice, Pornography Should Be Banned
Ban porn?
Yeah, that'll go ever real well.
/

LOL forever. Given that porn's a multi-billion dollar industry in this country, it's not going anywhere.

Also, I love how those whackaloons focus on porn, teh ghey, divorce, and the non-existent threat of Creeping Sharia instead of on things like jobs and the economy.

102 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:17:02pm

re: #77 Gus 802

Hey! Where's "Milty" to fight us pinko gender feminists?

//


Shhhh.

Once was more than enough.

103 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:17:06pm

Undefeated my ass!

I quit!

//

104 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:17:08pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Hey, at least they'll finally get those damn kids in the male 18-65 demographic to go out and vote.

(against them of course)

105 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:17:38pm

re: #102 BongCrodny

I'm actually sad, I was playing games and missed all the fun on that one.

106 makeitstop  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:18:45pm

re: #105 windsagio

I'm actually sad, I was playing games and missed all the fun on that one.

I didn't participate, just lurked the thread.

My brain literally hurt after a couple hundred posts.

107 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:18:46pm

I have a relative who has said a few times that she just couldn't respect any guy into porn.

My only response at that point was 'go gay then'.

108 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:18:57pm

re: #105 windsagio

I'm actually sad, I was playing games and missed all the fun on that one.

Short Version:

"Archie Bunker is Israeli and learns to type."

109 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:19:28pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Iowa Group Asks Republican Candidates To Agree That Homosexuality Is A Choice, Pornography Should Be Banned
Ban porn?
Yeah, that'll go ever real well.
/

You can have my pron when you pry it from my ...

Well, I guess it might be easy considering the lube. Have to get back to you on that one.

110 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:19:32pm

re: #108 Decatur Deb

I read some of it (not most lol, 900 posts my ass), but too late to get any good licks in :p

111 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:19:44pm

re: #100 JasonA

Pretty soon you'll have to be Jesus with a gun to win that nomination.

Only if Jesus looks like Ted Nugent.

112 Four More Tears  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:20:40pm

re: #111 Lidane

Only if Jesus looks like Ted Nugent.

And promises to lower taxes...

113 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:21:56pm

re: #100 JasonA

Pretty soon you'll have to be Jesus with a gun to win that nomination.

I don't care if it rains or freezes...
Long as I got my plastic AK-47...
Riding on the dashboard of my car.

//Anyone have any boiled eggs?

//

114 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:22:18pm

Amazing page I have to share:

What is this I don't even...

115 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:22:33pm

re: #107 windsagio

I have a relative who has said a few times that she just couldn't respect any guy into porn.

My only response at that point was 'go gay then'.

Heh. She'd just find a bunch of lesbians and bisexual girls into porn. Then where would she be?

116 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:23:03pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You can have my pron when you pry it from my warm moist hands ...

Well, I guess it might be easy considering the lube. Have to get back to you on that one.

FTFY

//

117 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:24:18pm

re: #114 windsagio

Amazing page I have to share:

What is this I don't even...

Image: woodywtf.jpg

118 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:25:09pm

Important breaking update on the outrageous ATF scandal!
Stimulus Funded ATF Gunrunner Program?

119 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:25:20pm

re: #115 Lidane

Alone at 80? >> I think her husband just keeps mum :p

120 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:26:17pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Important breaking update on the outrageous ATF scandal!
Stimulus Funded ATF Gunrunner Program?

What's amazing is wingnuts think this stuff up on their own now even though Glenn Beck is off the air.

121 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:26:42pm

re: #116 Gus 802

FTFY

//

Just the hands? Whats the fun in that?

122 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:26:47pm

Well, that was interesting. Just had some wild weather rip through Lower Manhattan. Rain coming sideways in huge droplets to the point that everything was obscured, but it was sunny out. Bizarre.

But not nearly as bizarre as the stuff pointed out by windsagio above.

123 makeitstop  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:27:05pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Important breaking update on the outrageous ATF scandal!
Stimulus Funded ATF Gunrunner Program?

Too late in the day for me. My outrageous outrage quota is pretty much filled for the day.

124 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:27:38pm

re: #122 lawhawk

Well, that was interesting. Just had some wild weather rip through Lower Manhattan. Rain coming sideways in huge droplets to the point that everything was obscured, but it was sunny out. Bizarre.

But not nearly as bizarre as the stuff pointed out by windsagio above.

What? You don't like the part about the "Fourth Estate"?

//

125 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:29:09pm

re: #119 windsagio

Alone at 80? >> I think her husband just keeps mum :p

He also keeps his porn stash well hidden, apparently. Hahahaha.

126 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:29:16pm

re: #122 lawhawk

In the south, when there's a sunshower like that they say "The Devil is beating his Wife".

127 Stanghazi  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:29:22pm

omg, Caylee Anthony was Obama's fault!

Once again we see, with our nation in crisis, President Obama stands by and does idly nothing while an injustice is committed here in this glorious nation of ours. It’s almost strange that the president has not yet made one statement on the issue of the death of young Caylee Anthony. Why the strange silence, Mr. President?
— Sarah Palin

128 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:29:34pm

re: #126 windsagio

which, I should add, just kicks ass.

129 windsagio  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:30:00pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

I know I just said this, but...

... the FUck?

130 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:30:55pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

Caribou Barbie needs to STFU and go back to Alaska already.

131 makeitstop  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:30:59pm

re: #122 lawhawk

Well, that was interesting. Just had some wild weather rip through Lower Manhattan. Rain coming sideways in huge droplets to the point that everything was obscured, but it was sunny out. Bizarre.

But not nearly as bizarre as the stuff pointed out by windsagio above.

I'm watching the animated weather map on the CBS News site (gotta drive out to Jersey for a gig tonight) and I can pretty much see the storm you're talking about.

The storms today look small and spread out, but pretty intense. Should make for a fun drive.

132 Four More Tears  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:31:54pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

Is... is this for real? The President should walk all over the State of Florida's jurisdiction? Is that what she's saying?

133 makeitstop  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:32:28pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

omg, Caylee Anthony was Obama's fault!

The torture never stops. (FZ said that)

134 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:32:46pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Important breaking update on the outrageous ATF scandal!
Stimulus Funded ATF Gunrunner Program?

"Read more at Weaselzipper..."

They can't get much lower for sources.

135 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:33:09pm

re: #132 JasonA

Is... is this for real? The President should walk all over the State of Florida's jurisdiction? Is that what she's saying?

Because that worked SO well for the GOP when they did it during the Schiavo fiasco.

136 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:33:34pm

re: #130 Lidane

Caribou Barbie needs to STFU and go back to Alaska already.

"I hope [Sarah Palin] stays in Alasaka." -- Barbara Bush

137 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:33:50pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

omg, Caylee Anthony was Obama's fault!

Well, its nice to see Sarah has a such firm understanding of the American judicial system.

138 Stanghazi  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:34:16pm

re: #132 JasonA

Is... is this for real? The President should walk all over the State of Florida's jurisdiction? Is that what she's saying?

[Link: www.salon.com...]

IDIOTS ALL

139 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:34:32pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

omg, Caylee Anthony was Obama's fault!

Even allowing that the Prez must be attacked 24/7, that's about the most mindless thing she's ever said.

140 makeitstop  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:34:35pm

re: #135 Lidane

Because that worked SO well for the GOP when they did it during the Schiavo fiasco.

Not to mention if Obama had said anything, he'd catch hell for 'interfering with the states' or some such crap.

He can't win when his opposition has less brain power than my cat.

141 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:34:53pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

omg, Caylee Anthony was Obama's fault!

What an idiot. Unfuckingbelievable. This woman is a moron.

142 Stanghazi  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:35:41pm

Wait wait, is it satire? If so, sorry. I'm trying to figure out.

143 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:36:16pm

re: #141 Gus 802

This woman is a moron.

That's been obvious since she first opened her pie hole on the national stage.

It's amazing to me that anyone still takes her seriously.

144 Four More Tears  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:37:10pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

You've been had.

I have rounded up (or possibly invented) the reactions of all the 2012 Republican contenders to the news of Casey Anthony's "not guilty" verdict.

And by extension some of us... :-/

145 albusteve  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:37:19pm

The state's Board of Pardons and Parole ruled that Leal did not deserve to have his death sentence commuted to life in prison without parole. Perry normally accepts the board's ruling when making his own decision, but he could grant a 30-day reprieve.

The justices will decide whether to issue a stay of execution, and whether to decide the broader legal question of what rights death row inmates from foreign nations deserve. If they intervene, the constitutional issues would be addressed by the high court in coming months, delaying Leal's execution.

we'll see soon enough how Perry handles this mess

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

146 Stanghazi  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:38:04pm

re: #142 Stanley Sea

Wait wait, is it satire? If so, sorry. I'm trying to figure out.

and because this is ostensibly "a blog about politics," I have rounded up (or possibly invented) the reactions of all the 2012 Republican contenders

I actually picked it up from a tweet, from someone believing it's true.

Alex Pareen isn't a comedian is he?

147 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:38:39pm

re: #145 albusteve

we'll see soon enough how Perry handles this mess

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I can tell you right now how he'll handle it. He won't do anything and the execution will happen as scheduled.

148 Gus  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:39:07pm

re: #141 Gus 802

What an idiot. Unfuckingbelievable. This woman is a moron.

OK. Fixed!

She's still a moron.

//

149 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:41:21pm

re: #127 Stanley Sea

omg, Caylee Anthony was Obama's fault!

LOL, "why won't the President say 'fuck the Fifth Amendment,' so that we can then bitch at him for not caring about the Constitution?"

150 Four More Tears  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:42:41pm

Hey, let's ask Perry if he thinks it's okay to execute innocent men..

In response to allegations that he allowed the execution of an innocent man (Cameron Todd Willingham), Perry was quoted as stating "he was a wife beater."

151 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:44:05pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

I actually picked it up from a tweet, from someone believing it's true.

Alex Pareen isn't a comedian is he?

I looks legit, I can tell from the pixels and having seen some dumbshittery in my time.

152 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:44:42pm

re: #150 JasonA

Hey, let's ask Perry if he thinks it's okay to execute innocent men..

Dude's a skin job.

153 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:46:41pm

re: #132 JasonA

Is... is this for real?

No.

154 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:47:56pm

It's not just Sarah Palin:

Michelle Bachmann, on Sean Hannity's show:

"Well, I’ve been visiting all the primary states, and I’ve been talking to people, and people all over the place are asking me, why, in Barack Obama’s America, someone who murders a baby who happens to be white doesn’t get punished. And Sean, I’ve been on the front lines, and I know people are afraid not just of the massive debt created by the Pelosi-Reid government, they’re worried about the Muslim Brotherhood, which has clear ties to terror groups dedicated to creating a worldwide Islamic caliphate, and they’re worried that Eric Holder’s Justice Department isn’t going to do anything about it if the Brotherhood or another group comes for their children."

(From FreakOutNation.com)

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:48:17pm

The Palin quote from Salon was a joke. Afternoon Honcos.

156 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:49:09pm

re: #155 Cannadian Club Akbar

I fell for that one as well when I first read it.

But the MB quote is really from Hannity?

157 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:50:07pm

re: #156 ralphieboy

I fell for that one as well when I first read it.

But the MB quote is really from Hannity?

Occurs in the same true/false collection in Salon.

158 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:50:28pm

re: #156 ralphieboy

I fell for that one as well when I first read it.

But the MB quote is really from Hannity?

We went over the Salon article the other morning. Both of us bite.:(
Don't know about the MB quote. Just got here.

159 Stanghazi  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:52:30pm

I hate it when that happens.

160 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:52:51pm

re: #156 ralphieboy

I fell for that one as well when I first read it.

But the MB quote is really from Hannity?


Not sure, but the whole thing looks awfully flaky.

The Salon piece also has the following:

@newtgingrich
tragic to see justice not served. now is a great time to screen my and @CallyGingrich film Rediscovering God in America [Link: bit.ly...]


I'm no Newt fan, but there's just no way in hell that's a real quote.

161 Lidane  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:52:54pm

re: #154 BongCrodny

people all over the place are asking me, why, in America, someone who murders a baby who happens to be white doesn’t get punished.

That's the real question people should be asking.

There's a different standard when a white woman or child goes missing or a white mother kills her children than there is for minority women. Always has been.

162 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:53:53pm

Salon link:

[Link: www.salon.com...]

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:55:50pm

Lightning strikes tree near Caylee Memorial.

This happened an hour ago.

164 blueraven  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:56:03pm

re: #145 albusteve

The state's Board of Pardons and Parole ruled that Leal did not deserve to have his death sentence commuted to life in prison without parole. Perry normally accepts the board's ruling when making his own decision, but he could grant a 30-day reprieve.

The justices will decide whether to issue a stay of execution, and whether to decide the broader legal question of what rights death row inmates from foreign nations deserve. If they intervene, the constitutional issues would be addressed by the high court in coming months, delaying Leal's execution.

we'll see soon enough how Perry handles this mess

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Oooh that's a tough one. I dont like Gov Perry at all. But on this, I actually wouldn't hold it against Perry to proceed and knowing him, he probably will. This guy is bad news.
I think the Obama admin had to at least ask...just like Bush did before the original prosecution. But this guy brutally raped and murdered a 16 y/o girl.

165 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:57:37pm

re: #162 Decatur Deb

I have rounded up (or possibly invented) the reactions of all the 2012 Republican contenders to the news of Casey Anthony's "not guilty" verdict

Money quote.

166 albusteve  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 1:58:57pm

re: #164 blueraven

Oooh that's a tough one. I dont like Gov Perry at all. But on this, I actually wouldn't hold it against Perry to proceed and knowing him, he probably will. This guy is bad news.
I think the Obama admin had to at least ask...just like Bush did before the original prosecution. But this guy brutally raped and murdered a 16 y/o girl.

I agree...
The state argued that Leal -- who has lived in the United States since age 2 -- never revealed his Mexican citizenship at arrest, and his defense team never raised the consular access issue at or before trial.

pretty much sums it up

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:02:44pm

re: #166 albusteve

I agree...
The state argued that Leal -- who has lived in the United States since age 2 -- never revealed his Mexican citizenship at arrest, and his defense team never raised the consular access issue at or before trial.

pretty much sums it up

Dude bashed her head with a 30-40 pound chunk of assault.
[Link: www.brownsvilleherald.com...]

168 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:03:31pm

re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar

asphalt, pimf

169 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:10:04pm

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

yourphalt

170 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:10:43pm

re: #169 ralphieboy

yourphalt

DePhault?

171 freetoken  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:11:14pm

Darwin vindicated, again:

Evolution and domestication of seed structure shown to use same genetic mutation

For the first time, scientists have identified a mutation in plants that was selected twice - during both natural evolution and domestication.

The mutation has been identified as the source of variation in the evolution of fruit morphology in Brassica plants and it was also the source of key changes during the domestication of rice.

"We have shown that the genetic source of both natural and man-made changes was the same," said one of the authors on the findings, Dr Robert Sablowski from the John Innes Centre, which is strategically funded by the BBSRC.

"These insights indicate that evolutionary development may have more to offer plant breeders than previously anticipated," he said.

Wild rice scatters its seeds easily to maximise dispersal, so an important part of domestication was to select for cultivars that retain seeds that can then be harvested. Previous studies identified the mutation - a single nucleotide change - that reduced seed dispersal. John Innes Centre scientists were surprised to find that the same nucleotide change was behind variation in the evolution of fruit morphology in the Brassica plants.

The Brassica family and rice are separated by 140 million years of evolution and the anatomies of their fruit are very different. However, this work, published in the journal Current Biology, shows that the same genetic tools are applicable over a large evolutionary distance and that evolution can offer insights into the tools that might be useful to breeders.

"Ever since Darwin used domestication as a model for evolution there has been debate over whether the same type of variation is relevant to both domestication and natural evolution," said Dr Sablowski.

"In this study we have shown that the same type of variation is relevant to both processes. In addition, we saw that a surprisingly simple genetic change is enough to explain differences between the fruits of different Brassica relatives. Now further examples will be needed to show whether the simplicity of the regulatory change in our case is exceptional."

Darwin used domesticated pigeon breeding as an example of selection. Creationists deny that such selection has any relevance to the story of life on this planet sans humans.

But, as this example shows, it does, it certainly does. One simply genetic change, a single mutation, was selected by human farmers and previously by natural selection, in two very different genera of plants.

172 Kragar  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:11:57pm

re: #171 freetoken

Darwin vindicated, again:

Evolution and domestication of seed structure shown to use same genetic mutation

Darwin used domesticated pigeon breeding as an example of selection. Creationists deny that such selection has any relevance to the story of life on this planet sans humans.

But, as this example shows, it does, it certainly does. One simply genetic change, a single mutation, was selected by human farmers and previously by natural selection, in two very different genera of plants.

But... bananas...

173 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:13:41pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Iowa Group Asks Republican Candidates To Agree That Homosexuality Is A Choice, Pornography Should Be Banned
Ban porn?
Yeah, that'll go ever real well.
/

lol Iowa nutters

174 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:14:06pm

re: #169 ralphieboy

yourphalt


No, no -- it's Obama's phalt.


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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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