Ann Coulter: Murdering Abortion Providers is the Only Way to Fight Judicial Tyranny

‘Abortion clinic violence is akin to the Tiananmen Square protests’
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LGF Pages author Ausador pointed out this article at the Daily Caller, where they’re gloating over Ann Coulter’s newest screed with a list of the Top 10 shocking things in Ann Coulter’s book ‘Demonic’ that will drive liberals crazy.

Coulter’s been eclipsed lately by some of the female GOP politicians on the scene, giving her competition for the Most Extreme Distaff Wingnut label. But if these excerpts from her book are accurate, she’s now pretty openly making excuses for fanatical murderers, saying that violence against abortion providers is a natural reaction to “judicial tyranny” — and likening abortion clinic violence to the Tienanmen Square protests.

Very nasty stuff. Has it driven me crazy? Well, that’s a pretty short drive, but my reaction is closer to weary disgust.

“But more important, abortion clinic violence should not be filed under ‘Political Violence’ at all. It should be filed under ‘Things Liberals Won’t Let Americans Vote On.’…When there is no legal process for pro-lifers to pursue to outlaw abortion – unlike every policy liberals violently protest – some pro-lifers will inevitably respond to lawlessness with lawlessness,” Coulter writes. “In the first few years after [Planned Parenthood v. Casey], about six more people were killed in attacks on abortion clinics. Most of the abortionists were shot or, depending upon your point of view, had a procedure performed on them with a rifle.”

“There were no more constitutional options left to fight judicial tyranny on the little matter of mass murder,” she concludes.  “Thus, abortion clinic violence is more akin to the Tiananmen Square protests in Communist China than any liberal riot in America. Want to stop violence at abortion clinics? Repeal Roe and let Americans vote.”

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338 comments
1 Kragar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:46:12pm

Ever the cunning stunt...

2 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:47:51pm

Well, she has been on the sidelines for a while so I suppose she was due to return, like Voldermort in a Harry Potter movie.

3 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:48:12pm

She's actually painting the worst possible picture of the anti-abortion front by doing this. She's saying that the anti-abortionists will never stop murdering doctors, blowing up clinics, that they're incapable of actually engaging with civil society where sometimes they don't get their way.

She's saying they're committed to terrorism, and to supporting terrorism, and she's right there with them.

4 garhighway  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:48:43pm

Remember when conservatives were the self-proclaimed possessors of moral clarity?

Good times.

5 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:49:05pm
“But more important, abortion clinic violence should not be filed under ‘Political Violence’ at all. It should be filed under ‘Things Liberals Won’t Let Americans Vote On.’…

Again I say...

I file it exactly where it belongs, under "theistic terrorism", a brand of which that is no different from the works of Al Qaeda.

Fuck. You. Bitch.

6 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:49:55pm

had a procedure performed on them with a rifle.

still thinking about this blurb

7 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:50:25pm

re: #2 darthstar

Outcrazying the crazy (given the current situation) is not easy. But she tries.

8 elizajane  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:50:58pm

Ann Coulter is a self-promoting opportunist at a level that Sarah Palin can only dream of emulating. She's smarter than Caribou Barbie but, like her, hasn't got a truly ethical bone in her bionic-style body. I can't believe she's ever devoted an instant's serious thought to abortion apart from figuring out how a stance on the subject can put her in the limelight.

9 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:52:12pm

re: #6 albusteve

had a procedure performed on them with a rifle.

still thinking about this blurb

She goes for maximum shock value. Imagine if she tried to be constructive with her words instead...she'd be a formidable pundit.

10 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:54:25pm

Since we're on the subject of the bleach-blond toothpick, I figured I'd bring up one of her other unsourced screeds, which she posted the other day in response to the Casey Anthony verdict:

Ann Coulter: CASEY ANTHONY: SINGLE MOM OF THE YEAR!

For those not wanting to wade through the majority of the bilge, I'll cut to the chase for ya:

The plague of single motherhood isn't an inevitable decay brought on by stupid choices of the underclass. Destroying the family is the active social policy of liberals. They enjoy experimenting with other people's lives and leaving the taxpayer with the bill.

The mainstream media and Hollywood studios are constantly issuing propaganda about the joys and triumphs of single mothers.

Thus, for example, the noted scientific periodical Us Weekly celebrated single motherhood with an article titled "The New Single Moms and How They Do It," which delusionally proclaimed that the "sisters are doing it for themselves."

No, they're not. They're "doing it" at an enormous and unasked-for cost to every man, woman and child in America. They're doing it at incalculable cost to the children themselves, such as helpless, innocent Caylee.

'scuse me while I go gargle with some bleach to get the taste of bile out of my mouth.

11 blueraven  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:54:31pm

Her words truly reflect the title of her book: Demonic
Indeed.

12 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:55:12pm

She'd be great pals with Sayyid Qutb.

14 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:56:39pm

Sounds like her book is full of lies.

3.) Coulter stands up for the killings at Kent State

“On May 4, National Guard officers were trying to disperse thousands of violent protesters in the middle of the campus. According to the recent reporting of James Rosen, the guardsman were fired upon first, leading twenty-nine guardsman to shoot back at the protesters, killing four students in thirteen seconds,” Coulter writes.

“If Louis XVI had been that decisive, 600,000 Frenchmen might not have had to die. As his grandfather, Louis XIV, had said: When war is necessary, it is a ‘grave error to think that one can reach the same aims by weaker means.’ Though decried throughout the land – and in a Neil Young song! – the shooting at Kent State soon put an end to the student riots.”

Wrong.

15 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:57:52pm

re: #9 darthstar

She goes for maximum shock value. Imagine if she tried to be constructive with her words instead...she'd be a formidable pundit.

she has been and is still formidable...if the GOP platform were music, she'd be a rockstar

16 I Am Kreniigh!  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:58:00pm

So pretty much anyone who's received a sentence from a judge that they didn't like is a freedom fighter?

17 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:58:27pm

re: #15 albusteve

she has been and is still formidable...if the GOP platform were music, she'd be a rockstar

She's Lady Gag Gag.

18 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 2:59:20pm

Nice Google ads they have there.

Ads by Google

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19 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:00:13pm

fascist asshole spotted

20 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:00:21pm

The hidden lie in the headline statement is "Let Americans vote." We voted.

21 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:00:29pm

re: #10 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

No, they're not. They're "doing it" at an enormous and unasked-for cost to every man, woman and child in America. They're doing it at incalculable cost to the children themselves, such as helpless, innocent Caylee.

I had no idea my mom was such an evil, murderous woman. I wonder how many times she tried to kill me.

22 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:01:35pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

Now, I know next to nothing about those events, but the very logic is crippled here. One can make such a claim after the fact - e.g. now it is clear that if a few leading Bolsheviks turned up dead, there may not have been the bloodshed in Russia as there was. It's a logic of a lesser evil. But it only works when we already know the consequences.

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:02:48pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

Nice Google ads they have there.

*Sideshow Bob after being hit by a rake sound*

24 Petero1818  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:03:12pm

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

I had no idea my mom was such an evil, murderous woman. I wonder how many times she tried to kill me.

Its true, remember when she was wiping your runny nose for you? I bet it was choroform on that kleenex. You should confront her for the liberal parasite that she is/////

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:03:43pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

The hidden lie in the headline statement is "Let Americans vote." We voted.

My team wins the vote = Referendum!

Their team wins the vote = TYRANNY!!11ty

26 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:04:49pm

Meanwhile things happen:

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

(Reuters) - Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is not indispensable and the United States has no interest in his regime staying in power, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Monday.

27 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:05:07pm

re: #22 Sergey Romanov

Now, I know next to nothing about those events, but the very logic is crippled here. One can make such a claim after the fact - e.g. now it is clear that if a few leading Bolsheviks turned up dead, there may not have been the bloodshed in Russia as there was. It's a logic of a lesser evil. But it only works when we already know the consequences.

Crippled logic: When lies are not sufficient. I'm sure you are familiar with the phenomenon.

28 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:06:06pm

re: #27 wrenchwench

Crippled logic: When lies are not sufficient. I'm sure you are familiar with the phenomenon.

Doot doo duh doo doo!

29 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:09:24pm

re: #20 Decatur Deb

The hidden lie in the headline statement is "Let Americans vote." We voted.

"Okay team, we lost this round, so we need to think of ways we can change things up for a win next time around. Any ideas?"

"Um, run shittier candidates on an even shittier platform?"

"By golly, that's just crazy enough to work!"

30 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:09:48pm

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

Doot doo duh doo doo!

Is that from the movie or something? Cuz I never saw it.

Another cultural reference flies over my head...

31 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:09:51pm

But hey. Let's invite her to speak over at the next GOP gathering. Classic fail that they continue to associate themselves with this socially regressed cretin.

32 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:10:37pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

Is that from the movie or something? Cuz I never saw it.

Another cultural reference flies over my head...

Oh, wait.

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:11:29pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

Is that from the movie or something? Cuz I never saw it.

Another cultural reference flies over my head...

Ahem.

34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:12:48pm

re: #31 Gus 802

But hey. Let's invite her to speak over at the next GOP gathering. Classic fail that they continue to associate themselves with this socially regressed cretin.

It's what they want, and it's part of why I'm done with them.

35 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:13:16pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

Ah, you're quick!

36 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:14:29pm

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

Ah, you're quick!

From Kent shootings to Mana Mana. Only on LGF! ;)

37 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:15:04pm

re: #34 Slumbering Behemoth

It's what they want, and it's part of why I'm done with them.

I think so. With the current state of the GOP I wouldn't be surprised to see most if not all GOP politicians agreeing with her. This would be a good question to ask of candidates. "Recently, Anne Coulter said in her book... do you agree with her or not?"

38 Lidane  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:15:19pm

re: #2 darthstar

Well, she has been on the sidelines for a while so I suppose she was due to return, like Voldermort in a Harry Potter movie.

Except that Voldemort is actually interesting and a fully realized villain, at least in the books. Ann Coulter? Not so much.

39 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:15:23pm

re: #13 darthstar

I'm hoping the movement in Southern Arizona gets somewhere and is successful.

40 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:18:37pm

it should be illegal to publish a book that advocates terrorism

41 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:19:57pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

Oh, wait.

My wife and I use "mana mana" to communitcate with each other sometimes...if we're in, say Costco, and I lose track of her and can't find her, I'll shout "Mana mana!" and follow the "doo-doo-doot doo-doo" until I find her. I do love that about her.

42 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:22:12pm

Oh those crazy liberals. Always getting shocked.

43 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:23:35pm

re: #36 Sergey Romanov

I've always dug that bit. A clever little skit on peer pressure, conformity, and rebellion, with puppets!

44 Lidane  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:23:43pm

re: #40 SpaceJesus

it should be illegal to publish a book that advocates terrorism

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

45 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:23:51pm

re: #42 Amory Blaine

Oh those crazy liberals. Always getting shocked.

Ann Coulter would rip the head off a puppy if she thought it would get her a little bit of publicity.

46 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:24:01pm

re: #40 SpaceJesus

it should be illegal to publish a book that advocates terrorism

Nah, it should just be severely socially condemned.

'Terrorism' is way to political grey to be banning.

47 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:28:33pm

re: #37 Gus 802

I think so. With the current state of the GOP I wouldn't be surprised to see most if not all GOP politicians agreeing with her. This would be a good question to ask of candidates. "Recently, Anne Coulter said in her book... do you agree with her or not?"

"Well yes, I disagree with what she's saying..."

Next day, Coulter goes apeshit on Fox about criticism.

Following day, same politician:

"Look, I know I said I disagreed, but that was before I agreed..."

48 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:29:56pm

re: #46 Alexzander

we've already given it a working legal definition

49 mikec6666  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:30:30pm

re: #8 elizajane

We can only hope that the MSM will give her little, to no, play.

50 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:30:41pm

re: #48 SpaceJesus

Source?

51 Achilles Tang  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:31:22pm

re: #44 Lidane

Don't be silly. Burn the plunder? When has that ever happened?

52 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:31:43pm

re: #50 Alexzander

Not to say that there isn't a current definition for US legal purposes. But i doubt its too definitive, nor do I suspect that it properly picks out the actions we'd like to designate as terrorist in nature from those we wouldn't.

53 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:31:46pm

Good News about News Corp:

fivethirtyeight Nate Silver
News Corporation lost $3.4 billion in market capitalization today. bit.ly/Fncmq

54 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:32:15pm

re: #53 ProLifeLiberal

Nate Silver is one of my fav. people to follow on twitter.

55 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:32:29pm

re: #40 SpaceJesus

it should be illegal to publish a book that advocates terrorism

you must be kidding...the US can't even figure out what to do with real terrorists like KSM

56 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:33:50pm

re: #47 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Well yes, I disagree with what she's saying..."

Next day, Coulter goes apeshit on Fox about criticism.

Following day, same politician:

"Look, I know I said I disagreed, but that was before I agreed..."

Or the usual "I'm not going to answer that question." Something which is difficult to understand considering that Ann Coulter is one of their "spiritual leaders".

57 Achilles Tang  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:34:38pm

I understand that Fox has had no "fair and balanced news" about Murdoch. Since I don't watch anymore, I wonder if they will mention this.

58 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:34:55pm

ATF "scandal" update: ATF to Require Information on Frequent Gunbuyers in Border States

The Obama administration is restricting the gun rights of border state citizens, "when the administration knowingly and intentionally allowed guns to be trafficked into Mexico," said House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas.

"Limiting the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens is not going to solve the problem," Smith said.

59 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:34:58pm

re: #54 Alexzander

That's alot of money to lose in one day.

Any bets on if the Tory Government in London goes down over this?

60 Lidane  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:35:50pm

re: #51 Naso Tang

Don't be silly. Burn the plunder? When has that ever happened?

When people stuck to what the Bible actually says instead of putting their own interpretation on it. ;)

61 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:36:21pm

re: #57 Naso Tang

I understand that Fox has had no "fair and balanced news" about Murdoch. Since I don't watch anymore, I wonder if they will mention this.

I've been checking, they aren't going to even mention it. Even the Wingnut blogs will only make mention of it in the context of attacking lefty media outlets.

62 Achilles Tang  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:37:22pm

re: #60 Lidane

When people stuck to what the Bible actually says instead of putting their own interpretation on it. ;)

One can read the bible without putting one's own interpretation on it? Where did you get that crazy idea? ;)

63 Linden Arden  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:38:10pm

re: #40 SpaceJesus

it should be illegal to publish a book that advocates terrorism

This is the same argument on the "how-to make a dirty-bomb" book.

Its a good ethics question but Constitutionally I consider it settled in favor of the First Amendment.

64 Lidane  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:39:08pm

re: #62 Naso Tang

One can read the bible without putting one's own interpretation on it? Where did you get that crazy idea? ;)

Heh.

65 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:39:17pm
66 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:40:13pm

re: #56 Gus 802

Or the usual "I'm not going to answer that question." Something which is difficult to understand considering that Ann Coulter is one of their "spiritual leaders".

That's become the GOP's universal answer to any tough question asked of them: "I'm not going to answer." Or it's close cousin, "That's a gotcha question!" As though joining in Sarah's childishness is an answer in and of itself.

67 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:41:36pm

News Corp may be at risk for US probe over bribery

Legal experts in the United States said News Corp could face scrutiny on this side of the Atlantic Ocean as U.S. officials probe whether any of the allegations, if proven true, violate the U.S. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

That law makes it a crime for any company with U.S. ties to bribe foreign officials to obtain or retain business.
...
At a minimum, the News Corp would be at risk for violating laws on accurate accounting reporting if the bribes were paid, according to legal experts. News Corp shares trade on Nasdaq and the company files its financial reports with the SEC.

"Would the Department of Justice go after them on a criminal basis? Hard to say. But the SEC definitely has a stake in this," said Alexandra Wrage, a legal expert on bribery who is the president of the firm TRACE, which helps companies comply with anti-bribery and anti-corruption laws.

One source familiar with the matter said News Corp had not received any query from U.S. authorities.

68 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:42:38pm

re: #40 SpaceJesus

it should be illegal to publish a book that advocates terrorism

No, but abortion providers should consider people like Coulter to constitute an immediate clear and present danger to themselves, their employees, their clients and their loved ones. May she reap the whirlwind.

69 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:42:42pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

ATF "scandal" update: ATF to Require Information on Frequent Gunbuyers in Border States

Well, geez, KT, do you think it's *fair* for the Feds to question you after your 15th purchase of a recreational AR-15 knockoff in three months?

///

70 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:44:17pm

re: #69 austin_blue

Well, geez, KT, do you think it's *fair* for the Feds to question you after your 15th purchase of a recreational AR-15 knockoff in three months?

///


Outrageous!

71 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:44:19pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

News Corp may be at risk for US probe over bribery

It's fun watching the Fox News fan boys squirm.

72 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:44:22pm

re: #65 Gus 802

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure this nation can keep it's collective shit together if News Corp, (and with it, Fox News) crumbles and Obama gets re-elected.

73 Linden Arden  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:44:31pm

re: #65 Gus 802

News Corporation - (Public, NASDAQ:NWSA)
15.48
-1.27 (-7.58%)

Still has a $42 billion market cap.

I never followed the stock but that is a BIG number considering the NYTimes is just over $1 billion. Murdoch must sell a shit load of lies worldwide (WSJ excepted).

74 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:45:41pm

Isn't Toothpick's new book about mob mentality?

75 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:45:43pm

re: #72 Slumbering Behemoth

We'll just have to see. :)

76 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:46:33pm

re: #73 Linden Arden

Still has a $42 billion market cap.

I never followed the stock but that is a BIG number considering the NYTimes is just over $1 billion. Murdoch must sell a shit load of lies worldwide (WSJ excepted).

Yeah. News corp is huge. It's also Fox Entertainment and so on (think Avatar and American Idol). Well, I'm sure you've seen their holdings before.

77 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:47:00pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

ATF "scandal" update: ATF to Require Information on Frequent Gunbuyers in Border States

Limbaugh's been beating that particular drum since the "scandal" initially broke: "They're gonna use this to take your guns away!" It's their automatic thought process any time guns are related in a major crime/scandal:

10 Scream about liberals coming to grab guns in name of "gun control"
20 Wrap self in flag, claim Founders would be appalled at "socialism"
30 Go To 10

78 blueraven  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:49:11pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

ATF "scandal" update: ATF to Require Information on Frequent Gunbuyers in Border States

Here is the plan:

As early as next week, Obama will begin a series of changes designed to tighten regulations and penalties under current laws.
The changes will include:

* A national electronic system designed to make background checks for handgun buyers simpler and faster, leaving an electronic paper trail under a law named forJames Brady, Ronald Reagan’s press secretary who was wounded in the 1981 assassination attempt on the president.
* A new reporting requirement that federally licensed gun shops report any person who tries to buy two long-arm weapons near the Mexican border over a five-day period.

* Tougher sentencing guidelines for straw buyers that Holder’s department pushed through procedural hoops at the U.S. Sentencing Commission earlier this year.

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

79 Linden Arden  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:51:08pm

re: #78 blueraven

Damn, the NRA will go ballistic over those proposals.

80 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:51:13pm

re: #69 austin_blue

Well, geez, KT, do you think it's *fair* for the Feds to question you after your 15th purchase of a recreational AR-15 knockoff in three months?

///

I'm sure there are plenty of people in the USA that would probably say it's "their right" to be able to sell guns to "individuals in Mexico" or outright to drug gangs. "It's my right to able to sell my guns to whomever I please. Even around the world!"

81 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:51:32pm

re: #72 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure this nation can keep it's collective shit together if News Corp, (and with it, Fox News) crumbles and Obama gets re-elected.

It does boggle the imagination. I'm not sure what would happen. I'm trying to be realistic and I somehow doubt there will be criminal or even an SEC probe. If anything Rupert will bail out before that happens. Rupert is toast in the UK, this is huge. Unfortunately he might survive here. He just has too many friends in high places.

82 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:53:01pm

Singing Bird Pistols!

83 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:53:25pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I'm hoping that things can go south for him here too.

84 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:53:39pm

re: #78 blueraven

Here is the plan:

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

But, but...I *need* 12 Bushmasters chambered in .308 to defend my home and family!!

[Link: www.bushmaster.com...]

85 garhighway  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:54:00pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

Sounds like her book is full of lies.

Wrong.

That woman is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

86 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:54:32pm

re: #80 Gus 802

I'm sure there are plenty of people in the USA that would probably say it's "their right" to be able to sell guns to "individuals in Mexico" or outright to drug gangs. "It's my right to able to sell my guns to whomever I please. Even around the world!"

That's pretty much the stance they take to the gun show loophole: "The government has no business telling me who I can and can't sell my guns to! I'm a private citizen, these are my private property, and I say where they can and can't go! Now show me the money!"

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:55:38pm

re: #75 ProLifeLiberal

We'll just have to see. :)

I find myself some what concerned about the prospect of a self-fulfilling prophecy of the wingnut variety.

88 Linden Arden  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:56:44pm

re: #81 Killgore Trout

I don't know. I remember Darrell Issa in 2010 saying how he would investigate the "corrupt Obama administration" with his new power in the House.

He has proven to be full of shit to date. I remember it because I believed him.

89 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:57:25pm

This one's my favorite:

9.) Liberals are not a part of the American tradition

“The men behind the American Revolution – the militias, the Minutemen, and the signers of the Declaration of Independence, as well as the framers of the Constitution – were the very opposite of the mob. Today we would call them ‘Republicans,’” she writes at one point in the book

“Liberals’ history is not this country’s history – theirs is the history of the mob,” she writes in another.

Huh???

Your text to link...

90 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:57:38pm

Coulter the metatroll. By pretending to troll liberals, she actually trolls conservatives into buying her poorly written books. Genius!

"Buy my repetitive books because it'll drive liberals crazy! Look! it's the same stuff I always write!"

meanwhile liberals just go "Wow, you spent money on a hardcover of Ann Coulter's new book? You spent your money because she told you it'd drive us crazy? You got worked, babe. Played like a fiddle."

91 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:58:09pm

re: #85 garhighway

That woman is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

What do you have against hammers?
/

92 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:58:33pm

re: #86 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That's pretty much the stance they take to the gun show loophole: "The government has no business telling me who I can and can't sell my guns to! I'm a private citizen, these are my private property, and I say where they can and can't go! Now show me the money!"

In what state(s) do these gun show loopholes exist?

Here in CA, you still have to do all the legal paper work, and wait the legal amount of time to pick up your purchase.

93 jamesfirecat  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:58:51pm

You know how America got to vote on Roe V Wade?

We elected Presidents.

Those presidents suggested Supreme Court judges.

The legislative branch made up of people we elected got to vote on them.

Those judges went on to vote on Roe V Wade.

If you want to "vote" on it again vote for a President and Congressmen/Congresswomen who say they will approve/appoint supreme court judges who in turn say they will repeal it.

Why do some people have so much trouble with representative democracy?

94 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:59:00pm

re: #83 ProLifeLiberal

I'm hoping that things can go south for him here too.

Be careful what you wish for. I'm starting to get a little bit nervous about how the paranoid wingnuts might react. The implications are pretty huge since the GOP has become subservient to Fox. The resulting power void is a bit of a concern.

95 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 3:59:59pm

re: #3 Obdicut

She's actually painting the worst possible picture of the anti-abortion front by doing this. She's saying that the anti-abortionists will never stop murdering doctors, blowing up clinics, that they're incapable of actually engaging with civil society where sometimes they don't get their way.

She's saying they're committed to terrorism, and to supporting terrorism, and she's right there with them.

I don't think she cares

If it'll sell books to paint anti-abortion people as driveling bloodthirsty subhumans, and advocate that position, she'll be laughing all the way to the Bahamas.


She's PT Barnum! The snake-oil is the book, and it's sold as a thing that'll 'drive liberals crazy".

96 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:00:15pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

The Paranoid Wingnuts will eventually do something rash. It's only a matter of when and what causes it.

Let's get it out of the way now.

97 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:00:42pm

re: #90 WindUpBird

It's amazing, the laundry list of stuff pundits sell because they claim it drives you guys crazy, or scares you guys.

98 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:00:43pm

Mommy, why does Ann Coulter hate America?

99 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:01:16pm

re: #85 garhighway

That woman is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

She's not stupid, because she doens't believe any of the stuff she writes. She may technically be a "conservative", but it's schlock. The books are props, it's fakery. It's a brand name she's selling.

people that BUY her books are stupid.

100 Linden Arden  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:02:50pm

ABC News - Brian Ross investigative piece on Michele Bachmann lead story - with "patients".

Good.

101 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:02:51pm

re: #89 Kid A

This one's my favorite:

9.) Liberals are not a part of the American tradition

“The men behind the American Revolution – the militias, the Minutemen, and the signers of the Declaration of Independence, as well as the framers of the Constitution – were the very opposite of the mob. Today we would call them ‘Republicans,’” she writes at one point in the book

“Liberals’ history is not this country’s history – theirs is the history of the mob,” she writes in another.

Huh???

Your text to link...

Huh. I always thought the Republicans of the day were called "Tories". You know, like Benedict Arnold.

102 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:03:56pm

re: #101 austin_blue

Huh. I always thought the Republicans of the day were called "Tories". You know, like Benedict Arnold.

Stop making sense.
//

103 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:04:11pm

re: #97 Slumbering Behemoth

It's amazing, the laundry list of stuff pundits sell because they claim it drives you guys crazy, or scares you guys.

It's big business!

What actually drives me crazy is actual bigotry and bad policy. People lighting their money on fire for the latest Mark Levin rag? For Glenn Beck's screeds? Who cares! idiots need heroes too :D They can go buy all that crazy grandpa's books their bank accounts will allow, maybe they'll have some pennies left over for Applebees

104 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:04:59pm

re: #98 Kid A

Mommy, why does Ann Coulter hate America?

Because idiots will buy anything, son. :D

105 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:05:24pm

re: #89 Kid A

This one's my favorite:

9.) Liberals are not a part of the American tradition

“The men behind the American Revolution – the militias, the Minutemen, and the signers of the Declaration of Independence, as well as the framers of the Constitution – were the very opposite of the mob. Today we would call them ‘Republicans,’” she writes at one point in the book

“Liberals’ history is not this country’s history – theirs is the history of the mob,” she writes in another.

Huh???

Your text to link...

Hey. I though Newt Gingrich was all for colonialism.

106 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:05:43pm

re: #103 WindUpBird

It's big business!

What actually drives me crazy is actual bigotry and bad policy. People lighting their money on fire for the latest Mark Levin rag? For Glenn Beck's screeds? Who cares! idiots need heroes too :D They can go buy all that crazy grandpa's books their bank accounts will allow, maybe they'll have some pennies left over for Applebees

Then they can tip the waitstaff with those "Jesus Saves!!!" pamphlets instead of real money. That happened to me A LOT in my days as a server.

107 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:06:56pm

re: #106 Kid A

Then they can tip the waitstaff with those "Jesus Saves!!!" pamphlets instead of real money. That happened to me A LOT in my days as a server.

Those people are who I like to refer to as "subhuman shit". :D

108 dragonfire1981  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:07:39pm

re: #106 Kid A

Then they can tip the waitstaff with those "Jesus Saves!!!" pamphlets instead of real money. That happened to me A LOT in my days as a server.

You are not alone. I've met many servers with similar stories.

109 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:07:46pm

re: #107 WindUpBird

Those people are who I like to refer to as "subhuman shit". :D

Bird, you're way too kind!

110 dragonfire1981  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:09:07pm

It's amazing to see the "drug addict" effect at work here. The crazier and more outrageous people get, it becomes necessary to become EVEN more crazy and outrageous to continue to stand out from the crowd (as in needing an ever bigger hit to get the "high").

111 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:09:40pm

re: #108 dragonfire1981

You are not alone. I've met many servers with similar stories.

One time, these Sunday folk came in and ran up a close to $200 tab on a six-top. Tip? A verbal "Great job!" (verbal tips are high on the list as absolute criminal behavior) and a Bible quote handwritten on a napkin.

112 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:09:45pm

re: #109 Kid A

Bird, you're way too kind!

You know who tips big?

Satanists. ^_^

because if you're into Satan, chances are you're not some entitled pig who's never worked a real job in a service industry :D

113 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:09:51pm

Yeah. Those crazy liberals that brought us women's suffrage, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the moon landing (as per JFK), Einstein's theory of relativity, a CiC by the initials FDR and victory over the Axis powers. Yeah, what does all of that have to do with the American tradition.

114 blueraven  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:10:14pm

re: #92 Slumbering Behemoth

In what state(s) do these gun show loopholes exist?

Here in CA, you still have to do all the legal paper work, and wait the legal amount of time to pick up your purchase.

Gun shows in the US

In Texas, over 150 gun shows take place every year, most shows attracting thousands of patrons. There is very little state or federal regulation of private transfers of firearms at these shows. Other states, such as Colorado, take more of a middle ground. In Colorado, about 50 gun shows take place each year, and private sales of any firearms are prohibited at all gun shows. All firearms sales at Colorado gun shows must be made by a federally licensed firearms dealer, and include a criminal background check. Private sales/transfers of firearms in the state of Colorado outside of gun shows are still legal. In contrast, in many other states, private sales/transfers of firearms between private citizens of the same state are entirely legal, regardless of whether within or outside of gunshows.

115 Nervous Norvous  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:10:32pm

re: #95 WindUpBird

I don't think she cares

If it'll sell books to paint anti-abortion people as driveling bloodthirsty subhumans, and advocate that position, she'll be laughing all the way to the Bahamas.

She's PT Barnum! The snake-oil is the book, and it's sold as a thing that'll 'drive liberals crazy".


Ill thank you not to slander my good name, sirrah!

116 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:11:23pm

re: #112 WindUpBird

You know who tips big?

Satanists. ^_^

because if you're into Satan, chances are you're not some entitled pig who's never worked a real job in a service industry :D

For me, the only satanists I knew were asshole preppies doing it to make mommy and daddy mad.

Definitely never had a real job.

But the Wicca people tipped well, in my experience.

117 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:12:11pm

re: #103 WindUpBird

Crazy grandpa books? Nah, I'm thinking more along the lines of high school teen drama.

♫"High school is such a serious thing... these problems matter"♫

118 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:12:28pm

re: #114 blueraven

Gun shows in the US

Beat me to it.

119 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:12:41pm

re: #110 dragonfire1981

It's amazing to see the "drug addict" effect at work here. The crazier and more outrageous people get, it becomes necessary to become EVEN more crazy and outrageous to continue to stand out from the crowd (as in needing an ever bigger hit to get the "high").

Well, yeah, the pundits need to escalate, because that's the market, and the market keeps wanting more outrage

eventually there'll be nowhere for a Levin, a Coulter, a Beck, a Prager, etc to escalate to except outright advocating of violence


America! Whee! If someone takes a shot at Obama, it'll be either around the election, or just after. That'll be when the pundits start cashing their chips in and getting right up to just advocating for assassination

120 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:12:52pm

re: #115 pt barnum

Ill thank you not to slander my good name, sirrah!

ahahaha well done

121 Nervous Norvous  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:13:50pm

re: #116 Obdicut

For me, the only satanists I knew were asshole preppies doing it to make mommy and daddy mad.

Definitely never had a real job.

But the Wicca people tipped well, in my experience.

I was once in a dyslexic opera. Faust sold his soul to Santa

122 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:14:10pm

Superb tippers (30%+): Gay men (sorry, lesbians were 15% tops), other service industry types, pro athletes (served lots of MLB players).

123 Hawaii69  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:14:10pm

re: #41 darthstar

My wife and I use "mana mana" to communitcate with each other sometimes...if we're in, say Costco, and I lose track of her and can't find her, I'll shout "Mana mana!" and follow the "doo-doo-doot doo-doo" until I find her. I do love that about her.

THAT.....IS......AWESOME....

124 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:16:47pm

...and got rid of child labor, the 40 hour work week, sick days, work safety, building codes, Federal Deposit Insurance, G.I. Bill Of Rights, military desegregation, Microsoft, Apple...

125 Hawaii69  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:17:27pm

Whenever you criticize a Right Wing hero, it's because he or she is "driving you crazy".

It never fails.

126 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:17:27pm

re: #116 Obdicut

For me, the only satanists I knew were asshole preppies doing it to make mommy and daddy mad.

Definitely never had a real job.

But the Wicca people tipped well, in my experience.

I'm more thinking of the NW variety, dudes I knew in high school who listened to a ton of Sabbath, read a lot of Crowley and Lavey and hung out in occult bookstores. Sorta dirtbag counterculture geeks.

More the "do what thou wilt" satan and less the "I'm gonna catch a stray cat for my altar" satan


which would probably be the equivalent of wicca for the bay area, just more trailer trashy :D

127 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:18:15pm

re: #124 Gus 802

I never tire of pointing out to microsoft haters how much of a philanthopist Bill gates is :D

128 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:18:36pm

re: #124 Gus 802

...and got rid of child labor, the 40 hour work week, sick days, work safety, building codes, Federal Deposit Insurance, G.I. Bill Of Rights, military desegregation, Microsoft, Apple...

But is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

//

129 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:19:45pm

re: #113 Gus 802

Yeah. Those crazy liberals that brought us women's suffrage, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the moon landing (as per JFK), Einstein's theory of relativity, a CiC by the initials FDR and victory over the Axis powers. Yeah, what does all of that have to do with the American tradition.

Yeah. Those reasonable conservatives brought us required sonograms before abortions, meaningless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, intervening in end-of-life family decisions, blocking gay couples equal access to benefits that straight couples enjoy, interjecting religious beliefs in every PUBLIC policy decision, the Southern Strategy to further alienate and separate citizens from one another.

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:20:40pm

re: #122 Kid A

Superb tippers (30%+): Gay men (sorry, lesbians were 15% tops), other service industry types, pro athletes (served lots of MLB players).


I generally tipped 25% because I knew waaaay too many people who worked as waitstaff. Harder job than any of my health care gigs, for sure

protip: in portland? (or anywhere, really) get to know chefs and waitstaff. They will score you the best weed, and they know where all the awesome bars and pubs are

131 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:21:16pm

re: #130 WindUpBird

I generally tipped 25% because I knew waaay too many people who worked as waitstaff. Harder job than any of my health care gigs, for sure

protip: in portland? (or anywhere, really) get to know chefs and waitstaff. They will score you the best weed, and they know where all the awesome bars and pubs are

LOL. I'll pass on the weed (not my thing), but thanks anyway!

132 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:22:34pm

re: #131 Kid A

LOL. I'll pass on the weed (not my thing), but thanks anyway!

Subsitiute weed for excellent drink specials! I'd get taken to the service nights at nice bars, my chef friend would get the fancy cocktails for half price, good times :D

133 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:23:22pm

Pakistan holds doctor who tried to collect bin Laden DNA

Pakistani authorities have jailed a doctor who helped the CIA by creating an elaborate plot to get DNA samples of Osama bin Laden’s family before the al Qaida leader was killed in a special forces raid here.

134 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:24:59pm

re: #129 Kid A

Yeah. Those reasonable conservatives brought us required sonograms before abortions, meaningless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, intervening in end-of-life family decisions, blocking gay couples equal access to benefits that straight couples enjoy, interjecting religious beliefs in every PUBLIC policy decision, the Southern Strategy to further alienate and separate citizens from one another.

Yeah, I'm waiting to hear one thing conservatives gave us in the past century, besides plenty of headaches and disgusting stereotypes.

135 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:24:59pm

re: #130 WindUpBird

I generally tipped 25% because I knew waaay too many people who worked as waitstaff. Harder job than any of my health care gigs, for sure

protip: in portland? (or anywhere, really) get to know chefs and waitstaff. They will score you the best weed, and they know where all the awesome bars and pubs are

I'm a generous tipper, and could care less if I get pigeonholed as a lesbian or baseball star

136 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:25:09pm

re: #132 WindUpBird

Subsitiute weed for excellent drink specials! I'd get taken to the service nights at nice bars, my chef friend would get the fancy cocktails for half price, good times :D

Also, gays were always the most loyal of all customers. You treat them right, they tip through the ceiling and always request you personally every time they come back. Those were good times...

137 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:25:31pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

Be careful what you wish for. I'm starting to get a little bit nervous about how the paranoid wingnuts might react. The implications are pretty huge since the GOP has become subservient to Fox. The resulting power void is a bit of a concern.

re: #114 blueraven

Gun shows in the US

The solution to a problem is often another problem.

138 Hawaii69  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:25:36pm

But, this angry mob of "Right Wing" (which isn't really the right phrase....more like "Angry Pricks Wing") internet warriors IS correct
when they say I don't like Sarah Palin or MIchelle Bachmann because
I'm "afraid of her". Oh....I am.

Not so much for their political views as for the fact that one is a clueless,
irresponsible media whore, and the other is clueless and batshit insane.

When George Bush said that god talked to him, it didn't phase me.
If Bachmann gets into the whitehouse, I'm building a fallout shelter...

139 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:26:21pm

re: #135 albusteve

I'm a generous tipper, and could care less if I get pigeonholed as a lesbian or baseball star

My money's on 'lesbian'.

140 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:26:29pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Pakistan holds doctor who tried to collect bin Laden DNA

you might get the impression OBL had friends in the Pak. govt

141 Achilles Tang  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:27:41pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

I'm surprised that the US would share their suspicions with anyone in Pakistan to this degree. Perhaps the doctor had family in Detroit?

142 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:29:19pm

re: #129 Kid A

Yeah. Those reasonable conservatives brought us required sonograms before abortions, meaningless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, intervening in end-of-life family decisions, blocking gay couples equal access to benefits that straight couples enjoy, interjecting religious beliefs in every PUBLIC policy decision, the Southern Strategy to further alienate and separate citizens from one another.

Hey. The Republicans gave us the Volstead Act which gave us prohibition. Which was vetoed by Woodrow Wilson but overridden. It was finally repealed by none other than Franklin D. Roosevelt with the Cullen-Harrison Act. Both Cullen and Harrison were Democrats. So, if you have a beer in your hand, thank the Democrats.

143 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:31:17pm

Good grief. Isn't it wonderful what political discourse has become?

144 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:31:54pm

re: #142 Gus 802

Hey. The Republicans gave us the Volstead Act which gave us prohibition. Which was vetoed by Woodrow Wilson but overridden. It was finally repealed by none other than Franklin D. Roosevelt with the Cullen-Harrison Act. Both Cullen and Harrison were Democrats. So, if you have a beer in your hand, thank the Democrats.

Well done, Gus! Cheers!

145 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:32:01pm

re: #143 Varek Raith

Good grief. Isn't it wonderful what political discourse has become?

What? You don't like beer?

//

146 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:32:35pm

re: #143 Varek Raith

Good grief. Isn't it wonderful what political discourse has become?

"My team's is better than yours!"
"Nuh-uh! Mine's better!"

147 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:32:49pm

re: #141 Naso Tang

I'm surprised that the US would share their suspicions with anyone in Pakistan to this degree. Perhaps the doctor had family in Detroit?

If that's his story, he needs to stick to it.

148 engineer cat  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:34:08pm

her books provide a service

not everybody is capable of formulating a coherent sounding justification for a sociopathic point of view

149 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:34:20pm

re: #142 Gus 802

Hey. The Republicans gave us the Volstead Act which gave us prohibition. Which was vetoed by Woodrow Wilson but overridden. It was finally repealed by none other than Franklin D. Roosevelt with the Cullen-Harrison Act. Both Cullen and Harrison were Democrats. So, if you have a beer in your hand, thank the Democrats.

The GOP: All up in your business and making shit worse since 1920!

150 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:34:44pm

re: #146 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"My team's is better than yours!"
"Nuh-uh! Mine's better!"

a comedy of partisanship....but the jokes are really awful

151 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:34:47pm

re: #144 Kid A

Well done, Gus! Cheers!

Coming up next. How socialists and other leftists helped create the atomic bomb and gave us nuclear power and other offshoots.

152 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:36:19pm

re: #151 Gus 802

Coming up next. How socialists and other leftists helped create the atomic bomb and gave us nuclear power and other offshoots.

Rural electrification was a commie plot!! (I saw that maintained through the early 60s.)

153 Four More Beers  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:37:29pm

re: #151 Gus 802

Coming up next. How socialists and other leftists helped create the atomic bomb and gave us nuclear power and other offshoots.

LGF page time!

154 Origuy  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:38:09pm

re: #101 austin_blue

Huh. I always thought the Republicans of the day were called "Tories". You know, like Benedict Arnold.

Arnold didn't turncoat for political reasons; it was personal. He had enemies with connections in the Continental Congress. There were also charges of corruption which were substantially true.

155 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:39:30pm

re: #153 Kid A

LGF page time!

Yep. J. Robert Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein were both rather strong socialists.

156 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:39:44pm

re: #154 Origuy

Arnold didn't turncoat for political reasons; it was personal. He had enemies with connections in the Continental Congress. There were also charges of corruption which were substantially true.

and he was arguably the finest general in N America....he had more principle then the assholes that framed him

157 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:42:14pm

re: #154 Origuy

Arnold didn't turncoat for political reasons; it was personal. He had enemies with connections in the Continental Congress. There were also charges of corruption which were substantially true.

And the sense of credit denied for action at Saratoga IIRC. If you ever are unfortunate enough to read Army Regulation 385-10, you will find reference to a mythical Ft B. Arnold, Rhode Island. Hee.

158 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:43:25pm

re: #157 Decatur Deb

What does the regulation say?

159 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:43:25pm

re: #155 Gus 802

Yep. J. Robert Oppenheimer and Albert Einstein were both rather strong socialists.

as were the folks that killed the nuclear power business in the US...and not to trump this stroke fest but give us your democrat take on the Bay of Pigs, or maybe the Vietnam war...you know, where people actually died for some donks in DC

160 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:44:53pm

re: #158 ProLifeLiberal

What does the regulation say?

Admin stuff. There are model forms to fill out, originating at Ft. BA.

161 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:44:58pm

re: #159 albusteve

as were the folks that killed the nuclear power business in the US...and not to trump this stroke fest but give us your democrat take on the Bay of Pigs, or maybe the Vietnam war...you know, where people actually died for some donks in DC

Sorry Steve but this is my gig here. I'm not going off on your tangent. I'm simply noting the contributions in contrast to the crap I read from Ann Coulter.

162 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:45:24pm

re: #140 albusteve

you might get the impression OBL had friends in the Pak. govt

It's also kind of interesting to see how the operation was set up. The nurses had no idea what they were doing. Even the doctor might not have known.

163 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:46:20pm
164 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:46:41pm

re: #161 Gus 802

Sorry Steve but this is my gig here. I'm not going off on your tangent. I'm simply noting the contributions in contrast to the crap I read from Ann Coulter.

I'd forgotten all about her

165 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:50:49pm

re: #162 Killgore Trout

It's also kind of interesting to see how the operation was set up. The nurses had no idea what they were doing. Even the doctor might not have known.

if it was a CIA op, nobody knew anything except their own role in the matter....keeping people stupid is how they pull this stuff off

166 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:52:55pm

re: #163 Killgore Trout

It's Frogmas!

nice change of pace...I like it

167 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:53:50pm

Ugh... There'd still be violence if there was a vote that continued abortion rights. But then she'd move the goal posts to defend right wing violence again somehow.

168 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:54:53pm
169 sod  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:55:14pm

Now seems like a good time to link to Henry Rollins' Love Letter to Anne Coulter in the off chance that anyone missed it:

170 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 4:57:33pm

monsoon season in the SW is pretty groovy...after a long day of scorching temps, the afternoon clouds roll off the high country, the temperature plunges, the wind picks up...and it rains somewhere, maybe very hard....then it all moves off to the west and we get spectacular, world class sunsets....cool beans

171 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:02:32pm

God dammit I hate DLLs.
:/

172 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:02:56pm

JBrown....welcome to this world
16 pounds of love...
[Link: thechart.blogs.cnn.com...]

173 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:04:43pm

re: #170 albusteve

the rain smells nice too

174 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:06:03pm

re: #173 SpaceJesus

the rain smells nice too

it does...I heard thunder down here yesterday...
talk about simple pleasures

175 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:08:40pm

Speaking of rain, it's pouring.

176 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:11:06pm

I just learned that cockroaches hate cucumbers...so do I...?

177 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:11:21pm

Duh-e!

Lori Klein, Arizona State Senator, Pointed Loaded Gun At Reporter Richard Ruelas's Chest

Arizona state Sen. Lori Klein (R), a gun-rights champion, keeps a loaded raspberry-pink handgun in her purse, and during an interview with Arizona Republic reporter Richard Ruelas, she took it out and pointed it at him.

"Oh, it's so cute," Klein said, before aiming the gun at Ruelas's chest to show off the red beam of the laser sight. Klein's gun, a .380 Ruger, has no safety, but the senator assured Ruelas that he wasn't in danger.

"I just didn't have my hand on the trigger," she said.

Continues.

178 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:11:33pm

Aw man, why can't I be an emperor?

C. Peter Wagner: Japan Is Cursed Because The Emperor Had Sex With A Demon

C. Peter Wagner, an endorser of Gov. Rick Perry's "The Response" prayer rally, explains that the nation of Japan is controlled by a demon spirit (The Sun Goddess) because the Emperor had sexual intercourse with her.

179 avanti  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:11:42pm

Westburo Baptist to picket Betty Ford funeral:


Westburo.

180 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:12:10pm

All we are saying
Is give peas a chance

181 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:13:38pm

re: #168 Varek Raith

re: #177 Gus 802

Gawt damnit!!! These things are not fucking toys!!!

182 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:13:50pm

re: #180 Charles

All we are saying
Is give peas a chance

I'll do it...
Obama: Time to "eat our peas" and pass debt deal
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

183 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:14:27pm

re: #180 Charles

I don't like peas. They had their chance and they blew it.

184 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:14:48pm

re: #180 Charles

All we are saying
Is give peas a chance

They do make pea gravel you know.

//

185 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:15:03pm

re: #184 Gus 802

They do make pea gravel you know.

//

KNOCK IT OFF!!!
///

186 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:15:46pm

re: #179 avanti

Westburo Baptist to picket Betty Ford funeral:

Westburo.

they bring out the very worst of my already suspect personality...sometimes I need to break something, it's how I cope

187 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:16:22pm

Whirrled Peas!

188 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:16:40pm

re: #174 albusteve


confirming 4 rain drops just fell at the flying star in nob hill

189 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:16:56pm

re: #180 Charles

All we are saying
Is give peas a chance

War is Peas.

/

190 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:17:06pm

re: #187 albusteve

Whirrled Peas!

The Nobel Peas Prize

191 Lidane  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:17:35pm

This should be interesting. Apparently, Herman Cain recorded a gospel record:

[Link: dailycaller.com...]

192 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:17:54pm

re: #188 SpaceJesus

confirming 4 rain drops just fell at the flying star in nob hill

that Fifth Drop is so fucking elusive

193 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:18:10pm

re: #189 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

War is Peas.

/

Power for Peas

(Power for Peace - Strategic Air Command)

194 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:18:30pm

re: #190 Gus 802

The Nobel Peas Prize

you might have to pea in a cup first

195 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:18:50pm

re: #193 Gus 802

Power for Peas

(Power for Peace - Strategic Air Command)

Atoms for Peas

196 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:19:07pm

ride on the Peas Train

197 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:19:14pm

re: #194 albusteve

you might have to pea in a cup first

If all fails we can fire off a Peasmaker missile at them.

198 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:19:36pm

re: #193 Gus 802

Power for Peas

(Power for Peace - Strategic Air Command)

Power 2 the peas, foo! (power to the peaceful)

199 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:19:37pm

re: #185 Varek Raith

I see we have a heretic in our midst, Gus. Time to get the blue gravel.

200 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:19:54pm

Peas Through Superior Firepower

201 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:20:30pm

Warren Peas

202 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:20:46pm

re: #197 Gus 802

If all fails we can fire off a Peasmaker missile at them.

A Colt Peasmaker?....
Earp to the rescue!

203 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:20:58pm

Welcome to The Peas Officer Training Facility...

204 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:20:58pm

I just want a little Peas of Mind.

205 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:21:19pm

I wanna a peas of that babe

206 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:21:30pm

re: #204 Slumbering Behemoth

I just want a little Peas of Mind.

But not to Rest in Peas.

207 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:22:02pm

re: #206 Gus 802

But not to Rest in Peas.

LOL!
winna!

208 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:22:10pm

No justice! No peas!

209 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:22:32pm

All these puns make me just want a little peas and quiet.

210 darthstar  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:22:43pm

Peas out, motherfuckers. I gotta run.

Image: Give-Peas-A-Chance.gif

211 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:22:48pm

We come in peas.

212 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:22:58pm

"take another little peas of my heart now baby"

213 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:23:00pm

re: #206 Gus 802

But not to Rest in Peas.

I shall not go peasfully into that good night!

214 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:23:22pm

re: #211 Gus 802

That must fucking hurt.

215 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:23:58pm

...
Sleep in heavenly peas
Sleep in heavenly peas...

216 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:24:49pm

re: #192 albusteve


you need to work on ap-peasing those rain gods

217 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:25:14pm

Peas is patriotic.

218 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:25:19pm

You know that a thread is nearing the end when the puns start up.

219 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:25:29pm

re: #177 Gus 802

No safety?!?! Holy crap. I'm fine around guns, but handling a gun at people without a safety?! I'd be running out of there or trying to find cover. That is not only idiotic, but a disaster waiting to happen.

220 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:25:30pm

re: #216 SpaceJesus

you need to work on ap-peasing those rain gods


I have a peas sign sticker on my car

221 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:25:57pm

re: #159 albusteve

as were the folks that killed the nuclear power business in the US...and not to trump this stroke fest but give us your democrat take on the Bay of Pigs, or maybe the Vietnam war...you know, where people actually died for some donks in DC

Actually the Bay of Pigs was just a couple of months into the JFK Administration. Sorta like Clinton for Waco. All of the planning was done by Poppy Bush' appointments.

I'll give you Vietnam, but Lord, we had been running that country since the Division of North and South.

Stop the Commies! Domino Theory!

222 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:26:47pm

re: #221 austin_blue

Actually the Bay of Pigs was just a couple of months into the JFK Administration. Sorta like blaming Clinton for Waco. All of the planning was done by Poppy Bush' appointments.

I'll give you Vietnam, but Lord, we had been running that country since the Division of North and South.

Stop the Commies! Domino Theory!

Oopsie!

224 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:27:59pm

re: #221 austin_blue

Actually the Bay of Pigs was just a couple of months into the JFK Administration. Sorta like Clinton for Waco. All of the planning was done by Poppy Bush' appointments.

I'll give you Vietnam, but Lord, we had been running that country since the Division of North and South.

Stop the Commies! Domino Theory!

yeah, I know...I was just injecting some fair and balance

225 Stanghazi  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:28:44pm

re: #217 Gus 802

Peas is patriotic.

I heard that quote on the way home on the evil NPR. I SO lol'd

226 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:28:59pm

re: #223 Slumbering Behemoth

Marine asks Mila Kunis to Marine Corps Ball, she accepts

so who is this Kunis person?

227 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:29:01pm

re: #224 albusteve

yeah, I know...I was just injecting some fair and balance

Rupert...Rupert Murdoch, is that you?

/

228 austin_blue  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:30:36pm

re: #193 Gus 802

Power for Peas

(Power for Peace - Strategic Air Command)

When I was flying it was "Peace Is Our Profession".

Inferring, of course, that nuclear devastation was just a hobby, constantly practiced.

229 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:30:51pm

re: #227 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Rupert...Rupert Murdoch, is that you?

/

I try to pull people into the middle, where I am Prince Of Nobody's

230 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:31:59pm

re: #226 albusteve

so who is this Kunis person?

One very attractive actress.

231 blueraven  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:31:59pm

re: #226 albusteve

so who is this Kunis person?

[Link: www.google.com...]

232 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:33:26pm

re: #229 albusteve

I try to pull people into the middle, where I am Prince Of Nobody's

As long as you don't take the title "Magical Balance Fairy," we're good.

233 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:33:33pm

re: #230 Slumbering Behemoth

One very attractive actress.

I thought she was married to Ashton Kutcher?

//

234 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:34:10pm

re: #230 Slumbering Behemoth

One very attractive actress.

wowzer!...I am so underwhelmed...
whatever happened to ugly actresses?...the ones that could act?...or are they now all icons we are supposed to wanna fuck in our dreams?

235 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:35:47pm

re: #234 albusteve

wowzer!...I am so underwhelmed...
whatever happened to ugly actresses?...the ones that could act?...or are they now all icons we are supposed to wanna fuck in our dreams?

You sound like some kind of far left, sex psychologist.

236 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:35:56pm

cool interview on the murdoch scandal from mr. m's biographer


237 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:37:02pm

re: #234 albusteve

wowzer!...I am so underwhelmed...
whatever happened to ugly actresses?...the ones that could act?...or are they now all icons we are supposed to wanna fuck in our dreams?

What? You never dreamed about Yvonne DeCarlo?

238 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:37:35pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

You sound like some kind of far left, sex psychologist.

Steve's morphed into a male feminist.

//

239 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:38:22pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

You sound like some kind of far left, sex psychologist.

hey?...can I make any money at it?...of I want sexuality I call my ex wife...I don't need cyber pics or TV, I prefer the real flesh, not some goofy fantasy

240 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:38:52pm

re: #238 Gus 802

Steve's morphed into a male feminist.

//

HA!
snort

241 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:39:42pm

I yam what I yam

242 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:40:18pm
243 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:40:48pm

re: #241 albusteve

I yam what I yam

Hi Popeye!

244 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:40:58pm

Shuffling some things around -- I moved the LGF Pages button to the top of the left sidebar, and moved the top banner ad down, underneath the logo and masthead. I moved the ad because with smaller window widths, it looks like ass and overlaps the logo.

245 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:42:09pm

I shaved my beard today, from off my chest to a respectable 1/2in....chic fans are lining up outside the compound and my laundry girls are furious

246 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:42:16pm

re: #241 albusteve

I yam what I yam

Are you some kinda YouTuber?

247 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:43:31pm

re: #245 albusteve

Wait, what were you saying about "goofy fantasies"?
:P

248 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:44:47pm

re: #246 Slumbering Behemoth

Are you some kinda YouTuber?

tuber?...yes
but these days we call it a heat seeking moisture missile

249 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:44:57pm

re: #244 Charles

I like the really clean look the page has without the ads now. (Subscribe!) The pages bar looks better. Top rated pages is a great link to have handy. That tool works really well, thanks! When I'm late to a thread it's nice to start with pages.

250 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:47:53pm

re: #175 Varek Raith

Speaking of rain, it's pouring.

Hooray!

251 jvic  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:50:35pm

re: #219 Spocomptonite

No safety?!?! Holy crap. I'm fine around guns, but handling a gun at people without a safety?! I'd be running out of there or trying to find cover. That is not only idiotic, but a disaster waiting to happen.

When did she take the safety off? Was she carrying it around loose in her purse with the safety off?

252 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:52:29pm

Yeesh. As soon as you post something about Ann Coulter, Google Adsense bombards you with Tea Party ads, right wing t-shirts, anti-abortion groups, kooks of all stripes.

253 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:53:43pm

re: #177 Gus 802

Duh-e!

Lori Klein, Arizona State Senator, Pointed Loaded Gun At Reporter Richard Ruelas's Chest

Oh crap. Another dumb gun owner story on the same day. *sigh*

254 SpaceJesus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:53:51pm

re: #252 Charles

you'd think they'd advertize garlic, mirrors, stakes etc.

255 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:53:55pm

re: #234 albusteve

wowzer!...I am so underwhelmed...
whatever happened to ugly actresses?...the ones that could act?...or are they now all icons we are supposed to wanna fuck in our dreams?

Kathy Bates.

256 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:54:59pm

re: #252 Charles

What, no ads for stormfront, political cesspool, or CofCC?

257 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:55:35pm

re: #249 Rightwingconspirator

I like the really clean look the page has without the ads now. (Subscribe!) The pages bar looks better. Top rated pages is a great link to have handy. That tool works really well, thanks! When I'm late to a thread it's nice to start with pages.

Thanks .. I was considering getting rid of 'Top-rated Pages' along with the 'Spinoff links' sections, but it's pretty useful as a quick way to see what's shaking in the Pages.

I may remove those popups that show the content when you hover over the title, though. It's another hold-over from the days when the 'spinoff link' descriptions were very limited - my sense is that it's a little obtrusive now that it shows the whole post in a popup, and sometimes part of the content disappears off-screen.

258 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:57:02pm

Rally wanted this for an earlier discussion.

XKCD Metatext:
The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space--each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision

The 'cartoon' showing the actuarial projection for the last American to have walked on the Moon:

[Link: xkcd.com...]

259 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:57:04pm

re: #195 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Peas Through Superior Firepower

260 Stanghazi  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:57:37pm

lol, I just watched the Prez at the Correspondent's dinner again. Fucking riot. Perfect break from the bullshit.

261 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:58:36pm

re: #177 Gus 802

Duh-e!

Lori Klein, Arizona State Senator, Pointed Loaded Gun At Reporter Richard Ruelas's Chest

Playing devil's advocate: loaded doesn't mean chambered. Not that this excuses pointing the weapon at someone, it absolutely doesn't. Also, since she's clearly an idiot, I'm guessing she does keep it chambered.

262 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:59:09pm

re: #16 Kreniigh

So pretty much anyone who's received a sentence from a judge that they didn't like is a freedom fighter?

Except for Dred Scott.

And Mr. Plessy.

They were criminals.

263 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 5:59:54pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Playing devil's advocate: loaded doesn't mean chambered. Not that this excuses pointing the weapon at someone, it absolutely doesn't. Also, since she's clearly an idiot, I'm guessing she does keep it chambered.

Not familiar with her piece, but can you paint the laser designator without putting a finger in the trigger housing?

264 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:01:16pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Playing devil's advocate: loaded doesn't mean chambered. Not that this excuses pointing the weapon at someone, it absolutely doesn't. Also, since she's clearly an idiot, I'm guessing she does keep it chambered.

she should have dumped the mag and cleared the chamber...another idiot shooter that does us all an injustice

265 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:01:23pm

re: #263 Decatur Deb

Likely a "crimson trace" laser grip. Good tool but not for stupid abuse like above.

266 Stanghazi  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:03:59pm

re: #264 albusteve

she should have dumped the mag and cleared the chamber...another idiot shooter that does us all an injustice

Exactly. I'm not a gun person, but my Dad sure is. I'll never forget my first lesson: every time you touch the gun you make sure the chamber is empty. Every time. Put it on the table, pick it up, he did it mechanically.

I respect that dude and my education.

267 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:05:07pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

This is why we can't have nice things.

268 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:05:36pm

re: #265 Rightwingconspirator

Likely a "crimson trace" laser grip. Good tool but not for stupid abuse like above.

Yeah, a Ruger LCP with Crimson Trace Grips from the factory. Very popular these days. No safety any more than my revolver does, just a very heavy DAO pull.

269 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:05:44pm

re: #263 Decatur Deb

Not familiar with her piece, but can you paint the laser designator without putting a finger in the trigger housing?

Yes, assuming she bought the Crimson Trace Laserguard version of the Ruger LCP. The button is on the front of the grip, just outside the trigger guard. Still, it is really bad form to be casually handling a gun without making sure it's totally empty first.

270 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:06:18pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Playing devil's advocate: loaded doesn't mean chambered. Not that this excuses pointing the weapon at someone, it absolutely doesn't. Also, since she's clearly an idiot, I'm guessing she does keep it chambered.

Lori Klein Makes Racist Comment


Fiscal conservatism in action
271 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:07:43pm

re: #267 Slumbering Behemoth

This is why we can't have nice things.

Heh.
Let me unsheathe my katana and point it at ya.
Gee, seems..
Threatening.
/

272 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:08:55pm

re: #178 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw man, why can't I be an emperor?

C. Peter Wagner: Japan Is Cursed Because The Emperor Had Sex With A Demon

[Video]

C. Peter Wagner is a true whackodoodle.

Love that beige brick at :14. Sharp.

273 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:09:02pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Almost certainly chambered if it's a dao gun. (Double Action Only) That's the point of that design.

For you non gun folks that means a long trigger pull with significant resistance before it will shoot. Accidental discharge is far less likely with that kind of gun. Until some idiot gets in the habit of pulling it partway... Which has happened to some police who carry dao guns all day every day.

274 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:09:26pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

Heh.
Let me unsheathe my katana and point it at ya.
Gee, seems..
Threatening.
/

give me a billy club any day

275 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:09:51pm

re: #274 albusteve

give me a billy club any day

I like swords.
:)

276 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:10:38pm

re: #274 albusteve

give me a billy club any day

Never take a naif to a goon fight.

277 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:11:12pm

re: #275 Varek Raith

I like swords.
:)

You want a weapon? Try a two-year old with an upset stomach.

There is just no safe direction to point that thing.

278 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:11:38pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Playing devil's advocate: loaded doesn't mean chambered. Not that this excuses pointing the weapon at someone, it absolutely doesn't. Also, since she's clearly an idiot, I'm guessing she does keep it chambered.

But the fact that it doesn't even HAVE a safety... hell, military weapons have safeties...

279 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:13:01pm

re: #276 Decatur Deb

Never take a naif to a goon fight.


:-)
Oh Groan On Floor Laughing!

Lady_Dragon-*facepalm groan*

280 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:13:03pm

re: #275 Varek Raith

I like swords.
:)

fine, just don't trust your life with one, unless you're some ninja wacko

281 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:14:01pm

re: #280 albusteve

fine, just don't trust your life with one, unless you're some ninja wacko

It's more of a collecting thing.

282 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:14:48pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Playing devil's advocate: loaded doesn't mean chambered. Not that this excuses pointing the weapon at someone, it absolutely doesn't. Also, since she's clearly an idiot, I'm guessing she does keep it chambered.

I learned that you never point a gun at anyone (including yourself) unless you intend to use it. Under any circumstance. Barrels are always pointed down or up and away from people.

283 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:15:18pm

re: #275 Varek Raith

I like swords.
:)

I'm more of an archery person myself. The physical effort required, and the satisfying thwok of impact, make it to me so much more satisfying than the trigger-pulling and bang of a firearm.

284 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:15:31pm

My first introduction to firearms was a trip to the gun range with my highschool buddy and his dad. His dad drilled us on gun safety, and I took it all very seriously.

We weren't there long before I turned to look just in time to see my buddy's dad hit him hard on the side of the head. I don't know what rule he broke, but that was the end of the outing.

Anyone, no matter their age, experience, or position, who treats firearms like toys should get that same treatment, on the spot.

285 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:16:38pm

re: #278 Spocomptonite

But the fact that it doesn't even HAVE a safety... hell, military weapons have safeties...


Not the Glock in the separate mechanical sense. It's on the trigger so if something gets in there like a heavily gloved finger, BANG before you mean to. DAO usually has a hammer decock function so in a way with a Glock or a DAO gun the trigger is the design of the trigger pull, rather than a separate device. Besides, don't get caught up in mechanical features. It's about the person handling. (Gun instructor mode /off/)

286 gamark  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:17:03pm

re: #261 goddamnedfrank

Playing devil's advocate: loaded doesn't mean chambered. Not that this excuses pointing the weapon at someone, it absolutely doesn't. Also, since she's clearly an idiot, I'm guessing she does keep it chambered.

Regardless, the first rule of gun safety is to keep it pointed in a safe direction. Even a dimwit politician should know not to point a weapon at someone you don't intend to shoot.

Its hard to tell from the article (most journos know nothing of firearms) what type of pistol it was. My guess is that it was a revolver (no safety). But the article says .380 which would be a semi-auto except for rare exceptions. Probably meant .38 as in 38 special which is popular with the ladies.

287 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:17:20pm

re: #282 Gus 802

I learned that you never point a gun at anyone (including yourself) unless you intend to use it. Under any circumstance. Barrels are always pointed down or up and away from people.

I learned that playing Half-life 2.

Valve Software programmers in Seattle have more gun sense than this gun-rights politician.

288 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:17:56pm

re: #286 gamark

Regardless, the first rule of gun safety is to keep it pointed in a safe direction. Even a dimwit politician should know not to point a weapon at someone you don't intend to shoot.

Its hard to tell from the article (most journos know nothing of firearms) what type of pistol it was. My guess is that it was a revolver (no safety). But the article says .380 which would be a semi-auto except for rare exceptions. Probably meant .38 as in 38 special which is popular with the ladies.

Here's a pic.
Image: kleingun.jpg

289 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:18:26pm

re: #270 Killgore Trout

Go back to mexico.

290 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:18:30pm

re: #287 Spocomptonite

I learned that playing Half-life 2.

Valve Software programmers in Seattle have more gun sense than this gun-rights politician.

TK!
GOD DAMMIT!
/

291 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:19:31pm

re: #288 Varek Raith

Here's a pic.
Image: kleingun.jpg

No 7-yr old would ever be attracted to that.

292 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:19:58pm

re: #291 Decatur Deb

No 7-yr old would ever be attracted to that.

That was my thought.
Looks like a freaking toy.
:/

293 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:20:35pm

re: #282 Gus 802

I learned that you never point a gun at anyone (including yourself) unless you intend to use it. Under any circumstance. Barrels are always pointed down or up and away from people.

handling loaded weapons is for combat situations...I have never been handed a pistol that was not unloaded with the chamber open...never, you just don't present one or touch one without a double check in that regard

294 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:20:36pm

re: #291 Decatur Deb

No 7-yr old would ever be attracted to that.

the gun or the lady?

295 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:20:54pm

re: #10 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Since we're on the subject of the bleach-blond toothpick, I figured I'd bring up one of her other unsourced screeds, which she posted the other day in response to the Casey Anthony verdict:

Ann Coulter: CASEY ANTHONY: SINGLE MOM OF THE YEAR!

For those not wanting to wade through the majority of the bilge, I'll cut to the chase for ya:

'scuse me while I go gargle with some bleach to get the taste of bile out of my mouth.

All the married, male, family annihilators, of course, do not indicate anything.

296 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:21:07pm

re: #292 Varek Raith

That was my thought.
Looks like a freaking toy.
:/

It looks like it needs an orange tip and some foam darts.

297 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:21:12pm

re: #10 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Since we're on the subject of the bleach-blond toothpick, I figured I'd bring up one of her other unsourced screeds, which she posted the other day in response to the Casey Anthony verdict:

Ann Coulter: CASEY ANTHONY: SINGLE MOM OF THE YEAR!

For those not wanting to wade through the majority of the bilge, I'll cut to the chase for ya:

'scuse me while I go gargle with some bleach to get the taste of bile out of my mouth.

That heartless, murderous bitch, and by that I mean Coulter. She should serious be brought before her home state's bar association and there stripped of her law license for inciting others to break the law.

298 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:21:18pm

Yellow/Black Warning label:

"Keep This End of Purse Downrange."

299 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:22:44pm

re: #288 Varek Raith

Not sure but I'd bet a Chimay that's not a real version, it's a training / handling non shooting dummy version. We use those for safe handling practice for noobs and in hand to hand transition to gun practice for tactical/defensive lessons.

300 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:22:57pm

re: #273 Rightwingconspirator

Almost certainly chambered if it's a dao gun. (Double Action Only) That's the point of that design.

I'm a big fan of Condition 3 carry, AKA "Israeli carry". If you're not a cop it's the best way to go, regardless of whether your semi-auto is DAO or SA/DA.

re: #278 Spocomptonite

But the fact that it doesn't even HAVE a safety... hell, military weapons have safeties...

Not all, my Sig Sauer p220 doesn't have a safety, it has a decocking lever instead. Plenty of militaries use Sig automatics that lack safeties. I personally don't like handgun safeties, if you think the gun is "safe" because of a switch it builds in a dangerous mindset IMHO.

301 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:23:07pm

re: #298 Decatur Deb

Yellow/Black Warning label:

"Keep This End of Purse Downrange."

"this is a .45cal Zippo...do NOT attempt to light a Winston with it"

302 Varek Raith  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:23:15pm

re: #299 Rightwingconspirator

Not sure but I'd bet a Chimay that's not a real version, it's a training / handling non shooting dummy version. We use those for safe handling practice for noobs and in hand to hand transition to gun practice for tactical/defensive lessons.

Gotcha.

303 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:23:57pm

re: #286 gamark

Regardless, the first rule of gun safety is to keep it pointed in a safe direction. Even a dimwit politician should know not to point a weapon at someone you don't intend to shoot.

Its hard to tell from the article (most journos know nothing of firearms) what type of pistol it was. My guess is that it was a revolver (no safety). But the article says .380 which would be a semi-auto except for rare exceptions. Probably meant .38 as in 38 special which is popular with the ladies.

Small .380s have some popularity. Not sure about the Glock. I do know that the full-sized Glock .380 (the Glock 25) cannot be imported into the uS due the ATF's 'factoring' system, which I regard as a humbug.

304 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:25:44pm

re: #299 Rightwingconspirator

Not sure but I'd bet a Chimay that's not a real version, it's a training / handling non shooting dummy version. We use those for safe handling practice for noobs and in hand to hand transition to gun practice for tactical/defensive lessons.

The article starts with a description of her 'cute' raspberry pink item.

305 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:26:44pm

re: #21 Slumbering Behemoth

I had no idea my mom was such an evil, murderous woman. I wonder how many times she tried to kill me.

Evil, murderous, but apparently inept.

306 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:27:57pm

re: #300 goddamnedfrank

I'm a big fan of Condition 3 carry, AKA "Israeli carry". If you're not a cop it's the best way to go, regardless of whether your semi-auto is DAO or SA/DA.

I can see that, utterly drop safe and even if somebody grabs it you get a bonus second or two to kick some butt before it can be turned on you.
We used to talk about that Israeli carry a lot at IDPA matches. Some guys used it with almost no lost time. Not my personal method, but if I did switch to that method I'd feel very comfortable with single action every day concealed carry. We sorta figured it's the best for civilians who must carry but lack regular intense practice.

307 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:28:33pm

re: #304 Decatur Deb

Well I want to say that's a damn bad idea, making a gun look like a toy.

308 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:28:34pm

re: #287 Spocomptonite

I learned that playing Half-life 2.

Valve Software programmers in Seattle have more gun sense than this gun-rights politician.

I learned that I was a tapestry woven of Vortessence, but for some reason I just don't see it.

309 jvic  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:31:05pm

1. re: #251 jvic

When did she take the safety off? Was she carrying it around loose in her purse with the safety off?

Oops, the gun has no safety. Presumably it has been engineered for transportation in purses and the like. My mistake.

2. Although there are people on both sides of the gun debate who mask absolutist agendas with reasonable-seeming rhetoric, I give the pro-gun side the benefit of the doubt.

Even so, slippery slopes notwithstanding, I can't but think that actions like Klein's should be illegal, punishable at minimum by a heavy fine. I'm no BFF of trial lawyers, but at first blush I think the reporter should have civil recourse for mental distress.

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:32:42pm

re: #300 goddamnedfrank

Not all, my Sig Sauer p220...

You don't have a gun, you're lying. Everyone knows that liberals are afraid of guns and that the liberal flesh burns at their touch the same way holy water burns vampires.
/

311 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:34:17pm

Since Rugers are on topic I'm looking for a good plinker .22 lr, does anybody here own or have any experience with the Ruger mk III series?

312 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:34:49pm

re: #300 goddamnedfrank

re: #278 Spocomptonite

Not all, my Sig Sauer p220 doesn't have a safety, it has a decocking lever instead. Plenty of militaries use Sig automatics that lack safeties. I personally don't like handgun safeties, if you think the gun is "safe" because of a switch it builds in a dangerous mindset IMHO.

I'm not in the military myself, so I guess I was speaking from partial ignorance. My Air Force buddies (where I glean my gun knowledge from) handle the weapons, I'll have to ask what specific devices they're talking about.

Further, I'm more pragmatic about gun safeties. It's kind of like seat belts: doesn't make the car 'safe', but it can help and it doesn't hurt to use it.

313 Gus  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:35:13pm

BIAB

314 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:36:13pm

re: #311 goddamnedfrank

Since Rugers are on topic I'm looking for a good plinker .22 lr, does anybody here own or have any experience with the Ruger mk III series?

Standard response #12: I do not own any weapons of any kind. Sorry, can't help ya.

315 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:38:13pm

re: #314 Slumbering Behemoth

Standard response #12: I do not own any weapons of any kind. Sorry, can't help ya.

anything harder than a skull or sharper than a spoon is a weapon...you know that

316 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:38:42pm

Loose lips not only sink ships, they can get your house robbed.

317 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:40:08pm

re: #315 albusteve

anything harder than a skull or sharper than a spoon is a weapon...you know that

Which is why words can be a weapon so easily.

318 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:40:15pm

re: #315 albusteve

Standard response #7: I neither own, nor do I know any who owns, any weapon of any kind.

319 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:41:02pm

re: #317 Emmmieg

Which is why words can be a weapon so easily.

The penis mightier than the sword.

320 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:42:05pm

re: #317 Emmmieg

Which is why words can be a weapon so easily.

wife Number Two was all about three words, center mass refrain

321 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:42:27pm

PEN IS!!! PEN IS!!!
/damnit

322 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:42:30pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth

Please tell me that's a typo.

Funny one, though.

323 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:42:56pm

re: #318 Slumbering Behemoth

A hammer is a weapon. I guarantee that there is one in your house for home repairs.

324 What, me worry?  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:43:03pm

re: #321 Slumbering Behemoth

PEN IS!!! PEN IS!!!
/damnit

LOL I was wondering if that was deliberate you kinky thing.

325 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:43:45pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth

The penis mightier than the sword.

the vagina has taken down more men than gunpowder ever will

326 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:44:06pm

re: #323 ProLifeLiberal

A hammer is a weapon. I guarantee that there is one in your house for home repairs.

I do not. I reason the nails into position.

327 punchdrunk  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:44:24pm

Today I learned Ann Coulter is not familiar with Article 5 of the United States Constitution.

328 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:44:49pm

re: #325 albusteve

Must...resist....joke.

329 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:45:25pm

re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth

I do not. I reason the nails into position.

Zen

330 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:46:03pm

re: #328 ProLifeLiberal

Must...resist...joke.

I just set em up....

331 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:47:57pm

re: #327 punchdrunk

Today I learned Ann Coulter is not familiar with Article 5 of the United States Constitution.

AC couldn't find her ass with both hands

332 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:48:48pm

re: #308 Slumbering Behemoth

I learned that I was a tapestry woven of Vortessence, but for some reason I just don't see it.

333 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:49:17pm

re: #331 albusteve

AC couldn't find her ass with both hands

Well, for starters, she doesn't have one.

334 Spocomptonite  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:50:27pm

re: #333 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, for starters, she doesn't have one.

She IS one.

335 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:51:51pm

re: #327 punchdrunk

Today I learned Ann Coulter is not familiar with Article 5 of the United States Constitution.

She's familiar, she just doesn't care. She'll say what her audience wants to hear, because she'd rather lose her soul than lose them. She wants to make a splash and to do that you have to keep being more and more shocking. She might keep going till she actually urges that someone be killed. At that point though, her enablers will likely pull the plug.

336 Idle Drifter  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:53:06pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth

The penis mightier than the sword.

Drill, baby, drill.

337 albusteve  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 6:58:21pm

for Sharmuta...
Gravity

338 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 11, 2011 7:00:35pm

Damn, that reminds me... I have an email account I haven't checked in a long ass time.


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