Generic Republican Wins Gallup Poll

Anyone seen a generic Republican lately?

PollJuly 2011 • Views: 50,896

It’s a good thing Barack Obama won’t be running against ‘Generic Republican Candidate’ in 2012.

Gallup typically uses this question format when a president is seeking re-election but his likely opponent is unknown, as was the case in 1991-1992 and 2003-2004, when incumbents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, respectively, were seeking re-election.

For balance, they should also ask who wins if Barack Obama runs against “Whacked-Out Republican Candidate.”

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236 comments

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:17:55pm

Fantasy Girlfriend wins out against real wife…

Vicious Babushka Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:18:48pm

Rudy thinks it’s him.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:20:47pm

Republican candidate wins debate against Obama impeersonator.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:21:57pm

Well, Republicans have been choosing fantasy over reality for years, so this poll result is at least consistent.

engineer cat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:23:27pm

generic republican will balance the budget, lower your taxes, and increase employment with a wave of his powerful republican hand

generic republican knows who our enemies are and says tough, manly things to them

generic republican has an attractive spouse, a beautiful family, is always morally virtuous and never does anything seedy

generic republican will repeal all federal laws that annoy you or any of your friends some of whom for some reason seem to be the koch brothers and rupert mordoch

jamesfirecat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:24:03pm

Clearly A Mister Nonof T. Abuve is a lock to win the Republican Primary.

wrenchwench Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:24:31pm

I knew a kid named Jon Eric. His sister would drive him nuts by calling him Generic.

Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:25:11pm

That is the basis of the Tea Party’s appeal: they are a blank canvas onto which the disgruntled can project everything they want out of a government: low taxes, low regulation, strong military, law and order, etc.

Just like the pages of Penthouse are the canvas onto which we project our ideal girlfriend: beautiful sensual, caring, playful, sexually insatiable and heavily into balding, middle-aged men with beer bellies…

Cinnabar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:25:47pm

re: #5 engineer dog

Why would I want “generic republican” when Nobody has done all those things year after year after year?

(Nobody for President in 2012!)
/

Vicious Babushka Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:26:15pm

re: #6 jamesfirecat

Clearly A Mister Nonof T. Abuve is a lock to win the Republican Primary.

Or Ms. Annie Budibut O’Bama

wrenchwench Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:26:59pm

re: #9 C1nnabar

Why would I want “generic republican” when Nobody has done all those things year after year after year?

(Nobody for President in 2012!)
/

Nobody’s perfect!

S'latch Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:28:08pm

Republicans need only nominate a more generic candidate to win. The Tea Party won’t permit it, but …

In fact, but for the Tea Party influence, more generic Senatorial candidates would have been running in 2010, and the Senate would be in Republican control today as the House is.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:28:14pm

re: #8 ralphieboy

I’ll have you know my balding head is in fact sexy. I know this because my wife tells me so in order to satiate my fragile male ego.

BongCrodny Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:28:31pm

…”GenEric Cantor” to file candidacy papers tomorrow.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:30:12pm

I hope Churchill was right:

“Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities.”

I think we have just about exhausted all the other possibilities, so it’s time.

mr.fusion Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:31:22pm

Any poll is kind of ridiculous this far out, but the “generic opponent” polls are always completely worthless no matter how far out or how close to the election. All it does is have the respondent project their ideal human being into the role of “generic Republican.” Hell, I’m a big Obama supporter, but if there was a Republican out there that I thought would do a better job running the country I’d vote for him/her without ever looking back…Unfortunately we have an entire party that consists of idealogues and nitwits.

Colbert put it best:

Link

allegro Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:31:37pm

Only slightly OT but still on the topic of polls… Last night Anderson Cooper showed a series of video clips of House Republicans saying “the people don’t want to see taxes raised on the ‘job producers’”, over and over, one after the other. He came back with “it’s just not true” with the results of every single major poll showing that even a majority of Republicans want to see increased taxes on the wealthy. Hopefully more will point this out loud and clear for the lie that it is.

Now if we could just see the lie put to that nonsensical “job producers” crappola.

makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:31:46pm

re: #5 engineer dog

generic republican will balance the budget, lower your taxes, and increase employment with a wave of his powerful republican hand

generic republican knows who our enemies are and says tough, manly things to them

generic republican has an attractive spouse, a beautiful family, is always morally virtuous and never does anything seedy

generic republican will repeal all federal laws that annoy you or any of your friends some of whom for some reason seem to be the koch brothers and rupert mordoch

Do not taunt generic republican.

Oh, wait, that was Happy Fun Ball…

Youtube Video

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:33:31pm

re: #5 engineer dog

generic republican will balance the budget, lower your taxes, and increase employment with a wave of his powerful republican hand

generic republican knows who our enemies are and says tough, manly things to them

generic republican has an attractive spouse, a beautiful family, is always morally virtuous and never does anything seedy

generic republican will repeal all federal laws that annoy you or any of your friends some of whom for some reason seem to be the koch brothers and rupert mordoch

Generic Republican is RINO!

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:34:34pm

re: #19 SanFranciscoZionist

Generic Republican is RINO!

Nuh-uh! Generic Republican is a Tea Party Patriot!

makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:35:59pm

re: #20 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nuh-uh! Generic Republican is a Tea Party Patriot!

//

It’s a floor wax!

(I seem to have fallen into an SNL groove here…help.)

jamesfirecat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:36:20pm

re: #20 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nuh-uh! Generic Republican is a Tea Party Patriot!

//

///Generic Republican supports Ron Paul Liberterian positions!

Political Atheist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:36:52pm

re: #16 mr.fusion

Any poll is kind of ridiculous this far out,

Gallup was honest enough to point out the very same fact. Polls a year out are rarely correct. I suspect the polls will swing a lot once we get past this unnecessary debt crisis period.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:37:15pm

How does Obama do against Generic Democrat?

makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:38:22pm

Mr. Big Ideas - apparently, none of those ideas have anything to do with finance.

Gingrich campaign already $1 million in debt

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:38:32pm

All joking aside, the poll points to something real, namley that the American voter is ready to vote for a reasonable Republican candidate. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, and possibly for the nation, the Republican Party has reacted to their loss in 2008 in mirror image to how the Democrats reacted to their loss in 2000. In both instances, the party was in such deep denial about he mere possiblity that the winning candidate was actually appealing to the voters that it wrongly concluded that the loss resulted from its candidate presenting as a moderate. For the Dems post-2000, that meant Howard Dean as DNC chair and a move to the left that contributed to President Bush’s re-election in 2004. For the Repubs post-2008, that has meant a disavowal of any member of the party who even suggests moderation in anything and a push for to the right. If they do not get their act together, President Obama will win re-election by default, regardless of whether the public would like to see a viable alternative candidate.

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:39:23pm

re: #23 Rightwingconspirator

Gallup was honest enough to point out the very same fact. Polls a year out are rarely correct. I suspect the polls will swing a lot once we get past this unnecessary debt crisis period.

Polls this time in ‘07 showed Hillary as being the Dem favorite, with talk that Obama might have to settle for VP.

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:39:26pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

How does Obama do against Generic Democrat?

I think Rep. Weiner has already backed out.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:40:10pm

And still, there is very little discussion of the 800 lb. purple gorilla sitting in the corner: rising energy costs, the effects of that rise on the cost of literally everything else, and the effect of that rise on economic growth overall.

Energy is labor in another form. It is a limited resource over which nations compete. The low cost of energy over the past 100 years has fueled economic growth over that period. Money earned when energy has a cost of N per unit isn’t directly comparable to money earned when energy has a cost per unit of some value greater than N. Yet, because of the way our financial system works, we have to treat wealth generated using yesterday’s (cheaper) energy as equal to the same nominal amount of wealth generated today.

This blind spot has profound implications regarding our financial system, budgets, and standard of living. And instead of being treated by economists as a central factor, it is virtually ignored.

sagehen Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:40:45pm

re: #26 sliv_the_eli

All joking aside, the poll points to something real, namley that the American voter is ready to vote for a reasonable Republican candidate. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, and possibly for the nation, the Republican Party has reacted to their loss in 2008 in mirror image to how the Democrats reacted to their loss in 2000. In both instances, the party was in such deep denial about he mere possiblity that the winning candidate was actually appealing to the voters that it wrongly concluded that the loss resulted from its candidate presenting as a moderate. For the Dems post-2000, that meant Howard Dean as DNC chair and a move to the left that contributed to President Bush’s re-election in 2004. For the Repubs post-2008, that has meant a disavowal of any member of the party who even suggests moderation in anything and a push for to the right. If they do not get their act together, President Obama will win re-election by default, regardless of whether the public would like to see a viable alternative candidate.

sorry, no.

Howard Dean was elected DNC chair *after* the 2004 election. It was his implementation of the 50-state strategy that brought the 06 wave and gave the Dems back the House.

CarleeCork Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:41:12pm

re: #25 makeitstop

Mr. Big Ideas - apparently, none of those ideas have anything to do with finance.

Gingrich campaign already $1 million in debt

Maybe he can put it on his interest free Tiffany’s account?

Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:41:20pm

re: #5 engineer dog

generic republican will balance the budget, lower your taxes, and increase employment with a wave of his powerful republican hand

generic republican knows who our enemies are and says tough, manly things to them

generic republican has an attractive spouse, a beautiful family, is always morally virtuous and never does anything seedy

generic republican will repeal all federal laws that annoy you or any of your friends some of whom for some reason seem to be the koch brothers and rupert mordoch

Generic Republican comes in an all-white cover.

mr.fusion Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:41:27pm

re: #28 sliv_the_eli

I think Rep. Weiner has already backed out.

//

That’s what she said

jamesfirecat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:42:48pm

re: #26 sliv_the_eli

All joking aside, the poll points to something real, namley that the American voter is ready to vote for a reasonable Republican candidate. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, and possibly for the nation, the Republican Party has reacted to their loss in 2008 in mirror image to how the Democrats reacted to their loss in 2000. In both instances, the party was in such deep denial about he mere possiblity that the winning candidate was actually appealing to the voters that it wrongly concluded that the loss resulted from its candidate presenting as a moderate. For the Dems post-2000, that meant Howard Dean as DNC chair and a move to the left that contributed to President Bush’s re-election in 2004. For the Repubs post-2008, that has meant a disavowal of any member of the party who even suggests moderation in anything and a push for to the right. If they do not get their act together, President Obama will win re-election by default, regardless of whether the public would like to see a viable alternative candidate.

2000 to 2004 was hardly as leftward a shift among dems as 2008 to 2010 is proving to be among republicans.

Jon Kerry is probably nobodies idea of a liberal firebrand (unless those people haven’t met very many real liberals) whereas the Republican Party is now disavowing many of the same positions that Jon McCain ran on when Obama tries to push them forward.

I find your analogy lacking and I doubt that Republicans can get their act together… who do you see willing to stand up and lead them against the crazies?

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:43:19pm

re: #26 sliv_the_eli

All joking aside, the poll points to something real, namley that the American voter is ready to vote for a reasonable Republican candidate. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, and possibly for the nation, the Republican Party has reacted to their loss in 2008 in mirror image to how the Democrats reacted to their loss in 2000. In both instances, the party was in such deep denial about he mere possiblity that the winning candidate was actually appealing to the voters that it wrongly concluded that the loss resulted from its candidate presenting as a moderate. For the Dems post-2000, that meant Howard Dean as DNC chair and a move to the left that contributed to President Bush’s re-election in 2004. For the Repubs post-2008, that has meant a disavowal of any member of the party who even suggests moderation in anything and a push for to the right. If they do not get their act together, President Obama will win re-election by default, regardless of whether the public would like to see a viable alternative candidate.

I think Obama’s electoral chances are going to depend a lot of what happens in the next 3 weeks. Bad economies kill presidencies, no matter how likeable or favorable the incumbent may be. If the GOP’s crazies get their ways, either by Obama folding and agreeing to a slash-and-burn debt ceiling deal, or we default and the economy takes a nose-dive, it doesn’t matter how much blame the GOP takes, they will still be able to say “Hey, we’re not the ones in charge!”

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:44:27pm

Generic Republican is a big fan of Local Sports Team and loves Regional Food.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:44:49pm

re: #35 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I think a default is pretty uncharted and unpredictable territory, we’re probably looking at much worse consequences than just another economic downturn

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:45:33pm

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Generic Republican is a big fan of Local Sports Team and loves Regional Food.

They are also Generic Protestant and drive American Pickup

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:46:25pm

re: #37 WindUpBird

I think a default is pretty uncharted and unpredictable territory, we’re probably looking at much worse consequences than just another economic downturn

I’ve been hearing a lot of doom-and-gloom scenarios, from being plunged into a deeper recession to a Second Great Depression. The only ones who aren’t seeing dark days ahead are the Tea Party loonies, who seem to believe that the golden era is just around the bend, as soon as we stop “big spending.”

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:46:55pm

re: #30 sagehen

Sagehen: You are correct concerning the timing of Dr. Dean’s election as DNC chair. Thank you for catching my error. That said, I stand by the balance of my observation concerning the response of the party to the 2000 loss and the impact of that view on the 2004 election. You and I will probably disagree, however, on what led to the Dem gains in 2006. My view is that it was largely a result of anti-war, and therefore anti-Adminsitration sentiment, which the Dems, to their credit, took advantage of.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:48:28pm

Did someone seriously make the claim that the DNC moved to the left between 2000 and 2004? lolwut?

Jack Burton Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:48:52pm

The apathetic American who barely watches news, never reads political blogs, but feels the need to run out and vote on Presidential elections… worries me this time. I don’t think they understand just how nuts the Republicans have become. I do. I’m not one anymore (although I was never registered I always voted that way). But the politically apathetic just might not “get it”. This means that “The economy is still bad so vote for the other guy” might be how they vote.

We might get stuck with someone that makes the fictional US President in John Carpenter’s Escape from LA look sane and secular in comparison because of this knee-jerk ‘blame the current guy in charge’ reaction.

The message that the GOP contenders are crazy and unacceptable needs to get out better than it is now.

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:49:12pm

re: #38 WindUpBird

They are also Generic Protestant and drive American Pickup

And has a doctorate from State College University.

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:49:20pm

re: #38 WindUpBird

They are also Generic Protestant and drive American Pickup

Generic Republican has also spoken out strongly about Local/Regional Issue.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:49:24pm

re: #39 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I’ve been hearing a lot of doom-and-gloom scenarios, from being plunged into a deeper recession to a Second Great Depression. The only ones who aren’t seeing dark days ahead are the Tea Party loonies, who seem to believe that the golden era is just around the bend, as soon as we stop “big spending.”

I’m more envisioning the sabotage of government programs that are relied on by millions of americans creating real civil unrest and violence

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:51:34pm

Generic Republican is a big fan of generic baseball player because he perfectly embodies a generic american quality, and is a good man who worships generic american deity.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:51:43pm

re: #41 Fozzie Bear

Did someone seriously make the claim that the DNC moved to the left between 2000 and 2004? lolwut?

The lefty base went pretty nuts with Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan and even Alex Jones. The DNC had some problems with organization, coordination, weak candidates, etc but never went as extreme as today’s Republicans have.

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:52:07pm

re: #34 jamesfirecat

2000 to 2004 was hardly as leftward a shift among dems as 2008 to 2010 is proving to be among republicans.

Jon Kerry is probably nobodies idea of a liberal firebrand (unless those people haven’t met very many real liberals) whereas the Republican Party is now disavowing many of the same positions that Jon McCain ran on when Obama tries to push them forward.

I find your analogy lacking and I doubt that Republicans can get their act together… who do you see willing to stand up and lead them against the crazies?

I agree with your observation about the degree of the shift. The Dem shift was much smaller, but palpable nevertheless. Repubs, on the other hand, have gone completely off the deep end. Thus, Sen. Kerry, whatever one’s views of him as a candidate vis-a-vis Pres. Bush was at least a viable candidate with years of significant public service and leadership to speak of. The Repubs, on the other hand, have bounced so far right, I do not see any viable candidate, unless someone comes out of the woodwork, as did a then governor from a small Mid-Western state when none of the big names in the Dem Party were willing to run against a then very popular Pres. Bush in 1988. After all, despite the media’s obsession with the upcoming presidential election, the election is still more than a year away.

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:52:26pm

Uhoh…

Generic Republican in scandalous affair with staffer

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:52:58pm

re: #46 Fozzie Bear

Generic Republican is a big fan of generic baseball player because he perfectly embodies a generic american quality, and is a good man who worships generic american deity.

Does Khorne count?

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:53:24pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Uhoh…

Generic Republican in scandalous affair with staffer

Generic Republican will appear before the press with Mrs. Generic Republican and apologize. We can get past this.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:53:24pm

re: #47 Killgore Trout

The lefty base went pretty nuts with Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan and even Alex Jones. The DNC had some problems with organization, coordination, weak candidates, etc but never went as extreme as today’s Republicans have.

The lefty base went nuts precisely because the DNC establishment made such a hard swing to the right following 9/11, along with the rest of the country. Lets not confuse Moore et. al. with those democrats in the legislature.

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:53:55pm

re: #35 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I think Obama’s electoral chances are going to depend a lot of what happens in the next 3 weeks. Bad economies kill presidencies, no matter how likeable or favorable the incumbent may be. If the GOP’s crazies get their ways, either by Obama folding and agreeing to a slash-and-burn debt ceiling deal, or we default and the economy takes a nose-dive, it doesn’t matter how much blame the GOP takes, they will still be able to say “Hey, we’re not the ones in charge!”

If someone doesn’t send the immature children on both sides of those negotiations to their rooms without dinner and force them to behave, and do it real soon, we are all screwed.

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:53:56pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Generic Republican will appear before the press with Mrs. Generic Republican and apologize. We can get past this.

Generic Republican finds Jesus, all is forgiven.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:54:07pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Generic Republican will appear before the press with Mrs. Generic Republican and apologize. We can get past this.

Actually, this guy is starting to grow on me. Is he in favor of Mom and Generic Apple Pie too?

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:54:08pm

re: #45 WindUpBird

I’m more envisioning the sabotage of government programs that are relied on by millions of americans creating real civil unrest and violence

Yeah, if there’s one thing I actually would look forward to in the event of the debt ceiling not being raised, it would be hearing the Tea Partiers suffer a collective aneurysm when they wake up and find out that their government checks aren’t coming, that the military they worship isn’t getting paid, that the cost of everything has skyrocketed, and those who are still employed have been laid off due to the economy cratering.

Unfortunately, the cynic in me (or rather, the cynic that is me) knows that all they’ll do is turn on Fox News, get told that all this is Obama’s fault, and become more galvanized in their belief that the GOP is in the right.

thecommodore Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:54:20pm

re: #42 ArchangelMichael

The apathetic American who barely watches news, never reads political blogs, but feels the need to run out and vote on Presidential elections… worries me this time. I don’t think they understand just how nuts the Republicans have become. I do. I’m not one anymore (although I was never registered I always voted that way). But the politically apathetic just might not “get it”. This means that “The economy is still bad so vote for the other guy” might be how they vote.

We might get stuck with someone that makes the fictional US President in John Carpenter’s Escape from LA look sane and secular in comparison because of this knee-jerk ‘blame the current guy in charge’ reaction.

The message that the GOP contenders are crazy and unacceptable needs to get out better than it is now.

A-freakin-men!

I was shocked that Obama and few of the Democrats did this during the midterms (save for Harry Reid against Sharron Angle). This was almost the complete inverse of how he campaigned in 2008 against McCain and Palin. I keep wondering where that Obama went. Because of this, while I think someone like Bachmann or Palin (should she run) would be wiped out if they ever got the GOP nomination, I do fear that Romney could very well win, and then stock his administration with nutjobs, a la Bush.

Jack Burton Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:54:23pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Uhoh…

Generic Republican in scandalous affair with staffer

Was it a generic staffer?

_{or an ill-tempered one with Lasers attached to his or her head.}

Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:54:29pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Generic Republican will appear before the press with Mrs. Generic Republican and apologize. We can get past this.

Generic Staffer’s ghost written book is in the generic remainders bin.

makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:55:21pm

re: #45 WindUpBird

I’m more envisioning the sabotage of government programs that are relied on by millions of americans creating real civil unrest and violence

I talked to a friend yesterday who works on Wall St., and he said that we’d probably keep our spot as the standard world currency because, in his words, ‘we’re the only game in town’ and as unstable as the dollar may become it’ll still be more stable than just about any other currency on the planet.

He says the downside is that everything - everything - will cost more. Again, in his words - ‘it will cause a lot of pain in this country.’

I don’t look forward to it and hope someone duct tapes Cantor’s mouth shut and throws him into a broom closet until the deal is done. He’s determined to wreck everything.

jamesfirecat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:56:24pm

re: #48 sliv_the_eli

I agree with your observation about the degree of the shift. The Dem shift was much smaller, but palpable nevertheless. Repubs, on the other hand, have gone completely off the deep end. Thus, Sen. Kerry, whatever one’s views of him as a candidate vis-a-vis Pres. Bush was at least a viable candidate with years of significant public service and leadership to speak of. The Repubs, on the other hand, have bounced so far right, I do not see any viable candidate, unless someone comes out of the woodwork, as did a then governor from a small Mid-Western state when none of the big names in the Dem Party were willing to run against a then very popular Pres. Bush in 1988. After all, despite the media’s obsession with the upcoming presidential election, the election is still more than a year away.

Didn’t Clinton Run against Bush in 1992 not 1988?

makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:56:31pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Generic Republican will appear before the press with Mrs. Generic Republican and apologize. We can get past this.

Generic republican resigns in shame, special election to be announced.

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:57:15pm

re: #60 makeitstop

I talked to a friend yesterday who works on Wall St., and he said that we’d probably keep our spot as the standard world currency because, in his words, ‘we’re the only game in town’ and as unstable as the dollar may become it’ll still be more stable than just about any other currency on the planet.

He says the downside is that everything - everything - will cost more. Again, in his words - ‘it will cause a lot of pain in this country.’

I don’t look forward to it and hope someone duct tapes Cantor’s mouth shut and throws him into a broom closet until the deal is done. He’s determined to wreck everything.

Did your friend give you an impression of how the market’s feeling right now, watching the wheeling and dealing in DC?

Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:57:19pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Uhoh…

Generic Republican in scandalous affair with staffer

Male staffer.
/Family values.

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:57:42pm

re: #62 makeitstop

Generic republican resigns in shame, special election to be announced.

Polls show Generic Democrat has a good chance of taking the seat.

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:58:12pm

re: #61 jamesfirecat

Didn’t Clinton Run against Bush in 1992 not 1988?

Damn, that’s twice on my dates today. Excuse me while I go fire my fact-checker.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:58:21pm

re: #64 Killgore Trout

generic Republican has room on his staff

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:58:27pm

re: #62 makeitstop

Generic republican resigns in shame, special election to be announced.

Generic Republican changes mind after religious conversion, thanks Jesus for healing him, runs for same position again, and wins. Generic wife is of course awkwardly supportive during generic emotional speech. generic tears flow. Generic flag is waved. Generic baby is kissed.

Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:58:38pm

re: #62 makeitstop

Generic republican resigns in shame, special election to be announced.

Tea Party candidate loses special election to Generic Dem.

blueraven Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:58:48pm

Instead of dealing in hypothetical candidates in the future, lets look at the here and now.

The Quinnipiac University survey of registered voters showed 48 percent would blame Republicans if the debt limit is not raised, compared to 34 percent who would blame Obama.

Voters also sided with Democrats by a 67-25 percent margin that an agreement to raise the debt ceiling should include tax hikes for the wealthy and corporations, not just spending cuts.

And who do voters blame for the nation’s sluggish economy?

“Americans overwhelmingly disapprove of President Obama’s handling of the economy, but by 2-1 they pin the blame on former President George W. Bush rather than Obama, who is now more than 60 percent through his term of office,” said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute…

Quinnipiac, however, didn’t find all good news for Obama. American voters disapprove 56-38 percent of the way the president is handling the economy, and his job approval-disapproval rating is 47-46 percent, unchanged from a Quinnipiac survey in June.

But those surveyed, by a 45-38 percent margin, said they trusted the president more than congressional Republicans to handle the economy, the survey found.

Quinnipiac poll: Americans favor Obama, Dems over GOP in debt ceiling debate

jamesfirecat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:59:20pm

re: #66 sliv_the_eli

Damn, that’s twice on my dates today. Excuse me while I go fire my fact-checker.

Yeah I was gonna say you were almost right about the no name Governor thing, but I don’t think Massachusetts counts as “Mid Western”….

makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 12:59:49pm

re: #63 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Did your friend give you an impression of how the market’s feeling right now, watching the wheeling and dealing in DC?

He said one thing that chilled me - ‘These Republicans think they’re playing with a firecracker, and they don’t realize they’re actually playing with a truckload of dynamite.’

Mind you, my friend is not given to hyperbole.

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:00:48pm

re: #71 jamesfirecat

Yeah I was gonna say you were almost right about the no name Governor thing, but I don’t think Massachusetts counts as “Mid Western”…

No self-respecting Mid Westerner woudl ever have been caught looking as dopey in a tank as did the Dems’ 1988 candidate.

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:00:55pm

re: #72 makeitstop

He said one thing that chilled me - ‘These Republicans think they’re playing with a firecracker, and they don’t realize they’re actually playing with a truckload of dynamite.’

Mind you, my friend is not given to hyperbole.

Sorceror?

/someone will get it

sagehen Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:01:23pm

re: #49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Uhoh…

Generic Republican in scandalous affair with staffer

Male or female? Above the age of consent?

When the staffer was fired (to remove temptation to further sin), did Generic Republican set Staffer up with a lobbying gig?

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:01:31pm

re: #72 makeitstop

He said one thing that chilled me - ‘These Republicans think they’re playing with a firecracker, and they don’t realize they’re actually playing with a truckload of dynamite.’

Mind you, my friend is not given to hyperbole.

If you are an adherent to the Chicago school of pseudo-economic “theory”, it is just a firecracker. The problem is that they have a belief system that is at odds with empirically verifiable reality.

sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:01:41pm

re: #72 makeitstop

He said one thing that chilled me - ‘These Republicans think they’re playing with a firecracker, and they don’t realize they’re actually playing with a truckload of dynamite.’

Mind you, my friend is not given to hyperbole.

Hearing the same thing from folks I speak to in the banking, construction and real estate industries.

jvic Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:03:18pm

1. re: #53 sliv_the_eli

If someone doesn’t send the immature children on both sides of those negotiations to their rooms without dinner and force them to behave, and do it real soon, we are all screwed.

Exactly.

The Catholic Church has a great idea: lock ‘em up and don’t let them out until they’ve made a deal.

I can improve on that: lock ‘em up and gradually reduce the food ration. I wouldn’t let them starve of course, but you can go a long time with liquids and no solid food. Just sayin’.

And if Congress refuses to pass whatever the top leaders comes up with, do the same thing to them.

2. Intrade gives Obama’s reelection a probability of 57%.

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:03:35pm

re: #75 sagehen

Male or female? Above the age of consent?

When the staffer was fired (to remove temptation to further sin), did Generic Republican set Staffer up with a lobbying gig?

The generically sexed staffer made several appearances on generic talk show to talk about their generic book deal, then got their own show on generic cable news.

Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:03:48pm

re: #72 makeitstop

He said one thing that chilled me - ‘These Republicans think they’re playing with a firecracker, and they don’t realize they’re actually playing with a truckload of dynamite.’

Mind you, my friend is not given to hyperbole.

Yeah, I read an opinion article earlier that stated that, despite amateur economists stating that our having “enough revenue” to cover Treasury bonds and our debt payments, the market will not be fooled when it sees that there’s going to be thousands, if not millions, of government employees suddenly laid off and billions in government obligations not being paid.

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:04:12pm

re: #47 Killgore Trout

The lefty base went pretty nuts with Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan and even Alex Jones.

Dunno about you but it sure was fun [/] trying to explain to people AJ is no liberal and is in fact a bigoted rw whackodoodle. Thankfully, people finally figured it out, but dang.

lawhawk Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:05:32pm

Umm.. .no Obama didn’t fib when it came to claiming that 80% of Americans support tax hikes to close the deficit.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:06:33pm

re: #81 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Dunno about you but it sure was fun [/] trying to explain to people AJ is no liberal and is in fact a bigoted rw whackodoodle. Thankfully, people finally figured it out, but dang.

I’m not so sure AJ is a winger. I think he’s just a raving paranoid, and will side with conspiracy theorizing lunatics of any stripe, if it gains him some kind of fame or notoriety.

The guy has serious issues which transcend politics, imo. Politics is just the way his id expresses itself.

makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:07:27pm

re: #76 Fozzie Bear

If you are an adherent to the Chicago school of pseudo-economic “theory”, it is just a firecracker. The problem is that they have a belief system that is at odds with empirically verifiable reality.

I guess that settles who the Republicans are listening to, then.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:07:35pm

re: #83 Fozzie Bear

Sort of like Cindy Sheehan. Some people just despise authority.

SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:08:58pm

re: #83 Fozzie Bear

I’m not so sure AJ is a winger. I think he’s just a raving paranoid, and will side with conspiracy theorizing lunatics of any stripe, if it gains him some kind of fame or notoriety.

The guy has serious issues which transcend politics, imo. Politics is just the way his id expresses itself.

I think, based on what little I’ve been unable to avoid hearing of him, that Alex Jones IS the place where the rightwing crazy and the leftwing crazy wrap around reality and run into one another.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:09:34pm

re: #84 makeitstop

I guess that settles who the Republicans are listening to, then.

I can only imagine the frustration of intellectually honest economists. It must be truly maddening to have so many people who DO know better saying things which not only aren’t true, but that nobody who has actually engaged in any rigorous study of economics could possibly actually believe.

sagehen Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:10:36pm

re: #72 makeitstop

He said one thing that chilled me - ‘These Republicans think they’re playing with a firecracker, and they don’t realize they’re actually playing with a truckload of dynamite.’

Mind you, my friend is not given to hyperbole.

Here’s how I explained it to the ignorant woman in the laundry room this morning (if I’m also ignorant in any particulars, corrections would be appreciated)….

When the world went off the gold standard in Breton Woods, they went on the American Dollar standard. Our money, the reserve currency, is the bedrock of the entire world economy and our global hegemony. The full faith and credit of the United States forms the foundation of global stability — if it’s gone we won’t be able to project military force worldwide, our lack of carrots and sticks will eliminate our diplomatic muscle, the entire planet descends into the kind of jockeying for position that led to the 100 years war, the 30 years war, the Napoleanic wars, WWI, WW2, etc.

If a million people have to die to maintain the full faith and credit of the United States, that’s significantly less misery and death than would result if we let it crash.

OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:11:35pm

re: #83 Fozzie Bear

I’m not so sure AJ is a winger. I think he’s just a raving paranoid, and will side with conspiracy theorizing lunatics of any stripe, if it gains him some kind of fame or notoriety.

The guy has serious issues which transcend politics, imo. Politics is just the way his id expresses itself.

I can agree with that. Though he has some social crap on his sites that reveal a winger bent. I used to send people to this page and ask them what was liberal/left about it.

The answers were often stunning — well, it’s on his site but HE doesn’t think that way; so what, he’s telling the trooth about 9/11; he hates GWB so he has to be a decent person, etc.

Cripes.

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:11:43pm

Looks like they’re is something new for Generic Republican to get angry about…

Active duty military to march in Gay Pride parade

Political Atheist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:11:57pm

re: #77 sliv_the_eli

Hearing the same thing from folks I speak to in the banking, construction and real estate industries.

There is a genuine undercurrent of fear on the street. Often it’s just coming out as pissed off people or partisan hyperbole (well covered on the right side at LGF already) and on the left we have the noisy “primary Obama” crowd.

My little luxury industry (jwlry mfg) is about sh%#@ting bricks. Awful coincidence- When gold was degregulated it was $39, Silver is now about $39 and the crisis is larger by far. The recession felt like somebody effed up but this, well this is far more pointedly self inflicted. TEA PARTY. Willing to kill the economy for a tax pledge.

Amory Blaine Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:12:35pm

30 years of trickle on hasn’t taught them a damn thing. What was that about an educated populace?

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:13:32pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

30 years of trickle on hasn’t taught them a damn thing. What was that about an educated populace?

Its a pain in the ass to fundamentalists?

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:13:36pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

30 years of trickle on hasn’t taught them a damn thing. What was that about an educated populace?

We didn’t trickle hard enough. If only we had trickled harder, the economy would be roaring.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:14:21pm

re: #94 Fozzie Bear

We didn’t trickle hard enough. If only we had trickled harder, the economy would be roaring.

I.E., WE HAVE TO GO DEEPER!

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:14:48pm

re: #95 Fozzie Bear

I.E., WE HAVE TO GO DEEPER!

Thats what she said.

Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:15:29pm

re: #89 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

this page

1993 called, and they want their web designers back. Seriously, for fuck’s sake, who is doing his website?

Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:17:38pm

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Looks like they’re is something new for Generic Republican to get angry about…

Active duty military to march in Gay Pride parade

Depending on the political content of the parade, they need to talk to their JAG before doing it in uniform. The prohibitions have nothing to do with straight/gay.

Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:17:48pm

re: #97 Fozzie Bear

1993 called, and they want their web designers back. Seriously, for fuck’s sake, who is doing his website?

Needs more midi files, flame gifs, and hot pink font on lime green background.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:19:15pm

re: #99 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Needs more midi files, flame gifs, and hot pink font on lime green background.

Indeed. Also, it needs more tables within tables within tables, and some frames. Everybody knows that frames make any website better.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:19:45pm

re: #100 Fozzie Bear

Indeed. Also, it needs more tables within tables within tables, and some frames. Everybody knows that frames make any website better.

Apparently, this man has never heard of a div element.

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Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:19:55pm

re: #92 Amory Blaine

30 years of trickle on hasn’t taught them a damn thing. What was that about an educated populace?

The only “trickle down” that’s been going on for the last 30 years is the rich taking a whiz on the heads of working class.

I’m sorry, did I say “rich”? I meant “job creators.”/

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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:20:17pm

re: #97 Fozzie Bear

1993 called, and they want their web designers back. Seriously, for fuck’s sake, who is doing his website?

Yeah that’s from maybe 5 years ago. One thing I noticed about him from the outset, he’s always had slick flashy sites. A lot of people got taken in by the shiny object.

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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:20:19pm

CEO of Dow Jones, Publisher of the Wall Street Journal, to Resign Today Amid News Corp Scandal: WSJ

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:20:33pm

re: #97 Fozzie Bear

1993 called, and they want their web designers back. Seriously, for fuck’s sake, who is doing his website?

The web design is the least of my worries…

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Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:21:02pm

re: #100 Fozzie Bear

Indeed. Also, it needs more tables within tables within tables, and some frames. Everybody knows that frames make any website better.

Bitches love frames.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:22:14pm

re: #97 Fozzie Bear

1993 called, and they want their web designers back. Seriously, for fuck’s sake, who is doing his website?

The guy who wrote the “Gloria Steinem working for the CIA article” is the author of “A Long Way To Go For A Date”, the romantic story of how he wooed and won a young Filipina bride.

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lawhawk Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:22:32pm

re: #104 Ericus58

[Link: online.wsj.com…]

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:23:16pm

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

The guy who wrote the “Gloria Steinem working for the CIA article” is the author of “A Long Way To Go For A Date”, the romantic story of how he wooed and won a young Filipina bride.

In the Philippines, Henry Makow, 48, discovered a tropical paradise where women are still traditional and the husband is the head of the household. A Long Way to Go for a Date is Makow’s candid and ironic account of his courtship and marriage to a young Filipina (shown on cover.) The book recounts his quest for love and masculine identity at a time when both are under siege in America.

Includes the essay: “In Defense of Heterosexuality”
128 pp.

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SpaceJesus Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:24:11pm

re: #104 Ericus58

uh oh, does he know something?

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sliv_the_eli Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:24:18pm

re: #91 Rightwingconspirator

There is a genuine undercurrent of fear on the street. Often it’s just coming out as pissed off people or partisan hyperbole (well covered on the right side at LGF already) and on the left we have the noisy “primary Obama” crowd.

My little luxury industry (jwlry mfg) is about sh%#@ting bricks. Awful coincidence- When gold was degregulated it was $39, Silver is now about $39 and the crisis is larger by far. The recession felt like somebody effed up but this, well this is far more pointedly self inflicted. TEA PARTY. Willing to kill the economy for a tax pledge.

I think you mean the Street, with a capital “s”. Unfortunately, the street, as in Main Street, is not yet sufficiently fearful to be yelling at their recently elected Tea Party congressperson (although more likely congressman) to quit f#!#$-ing around and act like a responsible adult.

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Sol Berdinowitz Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:24:35pm

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Generic Republican is a big fan of Local Sports Team and loves Regional Food.

And is close friends with Area Man

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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:25:27pm

re: #104 Ericus58

CEO of Dow Jones, Publisher of the Wall Street Journal, to Resign Today Amid News Corp Scandal: WSJ

No shit? Wow this is getting big.

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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:25:33pm

re: #110 SpaceJesus

uh oh, does he know something?

From the article that Lawhawk linked:
“Mr. Hinton had come under increasing scrutiny recently as a cascade of allegations indicated the problems at the center of the scandal were more widespread than he had twice led a parliamentary committee to believe.

In 2007 and 2009, Mr. Hinton told the committee that the company had carried out a full investigation into the matter and was convinced just one of its journalists was involved.”

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Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:25:43pm

re: #112 ralphieboy

And is close friends with Area Man

I know that guy. He’s a dick.

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CarleeCork Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:25:55pm

re: #56 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And buy more gold.

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makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:26:03pm

re: #104 Ericus58

CEO of Dow Jones, Publisher of the Wall Street Journal, to Resign Today Amid News Corp Scandal: WSJ

Something wicked this way comes…

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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:26:16pm

OT, but the News Corp scandal is continuing to spiral out of control. All of the following are brief summaries of articles on Wikipedia.

Rupert Murdoch attacks former UK prime minister Gordon Brown in The Wall Street Journal in his first interview on the scandal and accuses British MPs of telling lies.

There are now concerns over a six-figure donation believed to be at least £100,000 given by James Murdoch towards Pope Benedict XVI’s visit to the United Kingdom last year; Murdoch was then introduced to Benedict.

and finally:

UK prime minister David Cameron paid for his “friend”, the former News of the World editor Andy Coulson, to stay with him at his country residence of Chequers, two months after Coulson resigned as Cameron’s media chief. Coulson has since been arrested for his part in the phone hacking scandal.

Chances of the Tory-LibDem Government falling just increased.

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Ericus58 Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:27:25pm

re: #117 makeitstop

Something wicked this way comes…

Let the Purge Begin!
Better late than never.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:28:04pm

OMG. That site is ALL inline style elements. No CSS file attached, just style=”foo” on every single element.

That’s a recipe for pain. Seriously. It’s like keeping every digital file you own on a 5.25” floppy disk, separately.

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recusancy Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:30:58pm

re: #26 sliv_the_eli

All joking aside, the poll points to something real, namley that the American voter is ready to vote for a reasonable Republican candidate. Unfortunately for the Republican Party, and possibly for the nation, the Republican Party has reacted to their loss in 2008 in mirror image to how the Democrats reacted to their loss in 2000. In both instances, the party was in such deep denial about he mere possiblity that the winning candidate was actually appealing to the voters that it wrongly concluded that the loss resulted from its candidate presenting as a moderate. For the Dems post-2000, that meant Howard Dean as DNC chair and a move to the left that contributed to President Bush’s re-election in 2004. For the Repubs post-2008, that has meant a disavowal of any member of the party who even suggests moderation in anything and a push for to the right. If they do not get their act together, President Obama will win re-election by default, regardless of whether the public would like to see a viable alternative candidate.

Your wrong facts about Dean aside… Holy shit. You think the Dems moved left in ‘04?? Are you kidding?

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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:30:59pm

re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist

In the Philippines, Henry Makow, 48, discovered a tropical paradise where women are still traditional and the husband is the head of the household. A Long Way to Go for a Date is Makow’s candid and ironic account of his courtship and marriage to a young Filipina (shown on cover.) The book recounts his quest for love and masculine identity at a time when both are under siege in America.

Includes the essay: “In Defense of Heterosexuality”
128 pp.

Makow, ugg. That crowd’s favorite go-to for exposés of “Zionism”. /eyeroll

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:32:14pm

re: #121 recusancy

Your wrong facts about Dean aside… Holy shit. You think the Dems moved left in ‘04?? Are you kidding?

Yeah… I know. The DNC symbolized their sharp turn to the left by voting in lockstep with the GOP for a couple of years. Those raging liberals!

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Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:34:28pm

Bachmann tosses her church under the bus.

Taking a page from President Obama’s political playbook, Michele Bachmann has formally left a church in Minnesota accused of holding anti-Catholic views.

According to CNN, the church that Michele Bachmann and her husband Marcus had attended for more than a decade, Salem Lutheran in Stillwater, Minn., granted the couple’s request to be released from their membership last month, a week after Bachmann told a national audience that she would run for the Republican presidential nomination.

The Bachmanns had approached their pastor and verbally made the request “a few weeks before the church council granted the request,” said Joel Hochmuth, a spokesman for the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, the governing body for the church.

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SpaceJesus Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:34:49pm

re: #114 Ericus58

If making false statements to parliament is treated anyway like we in the US treat lying to Congress, he will have some problems

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:35:45pm

re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Somebody needs to dig up a Bachmann quote condemning Obama for doing a similar thing. I seem to recall her being pretty vocal about Obama’s pastor.

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lawhawk Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:35:54pm

re: #120 Fozzie Bear

CSS… CIA…. they both begin with C - that’s why. / or is it/

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:37:32pm

re: #127 lawhawk

CSS… CIA… they both begin with C - that’s why. / or is it/

He’s probably afraid of the W3C, because clearly, that organization is bent on dominating the internet, and through it, the world!

“Best practices!?!?!! HAH! You are just trying to control my mind! I’ll do my style inline! That’ll show that evil W3C!”

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lawhawk Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:38:34pm

I think the Hinton resignation qualifies as a Friday night news dump. Try to get the big names out of the way before the weekend when no one pays attention…

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Stan the Demanded Plan Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:38:44pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Depending on the political content of the parade, they need to talk to their JAG before doing it in uniform. The prohibitions have nothing to do with straight/gay.

I don’t believe they are going to be in uniform.

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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:39:03pm

re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

According to CNN, the church that Michele Bachmann and her husband Marcus had attended for more than a decade, Salem Lutheran in Stillwater, Minn., granted the couple’s request to be released from their membership last month, a week after Bachmann told a national audience that she would run for the Republican presidential nomination.

What, are WELS pastors in the habit of telling people “no”?

You joined this church, and you’re gonna STAY in this chruch, missy!

WELS is so weird.

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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:39:28pm

re: #126 Fozzie Bear

Somebody needs to dig up a Bachmann quote condemning Obama for doing a similar thing. I seem to recall her being pretty vocal about Obama’s pastor.

I googled “Michele Bacman Reverend Wright” just for shits and giggles. Researchok”s LGF page was #5.

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Stan the Demanded Plan Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:39:29pm

re: #104 Ericus58

CEO of Dow Jones, Publisher of the Wall Street Journal, to Resign Today Amid News Corp Scandal: WSJ

Live blog of everything. Apparently Rupert met with the family of the murdered girl who’s phone was hacked today.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]

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BongCrodny Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:40:03pm

re: #43 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And has a doctorate from State College University.

/

…and lots of delicious, tasty white bread.

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recusancy Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:40:25pm

re: #128 Fozzie Bear

He’s probably afraid of the W3C, because clearly, that organization is bent on dominating the internet, and through it, the world!

“Best practices!?!?!! HAH! You are just trying to control my mind! I’ll do my style inline! That’ll show that evil W3C!”

Inline styles are not against w3c standards.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:40:41pm

re: #132 Cannadian Club Akbar

I googled “Michele Bacman Reverend Wright” just for shits and giggles. Researchok”s LGF page was #5.

The irony there is more delicious than a baklava. And I freaking LOVE baklava.

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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:40:55pm

re: #134 BongCrodny

…and lots of delicious, tasty white bread.

With the crusts cut off (the tea party way).

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Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:41:03pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

I don’t believe they are going to be in uniform.

I thought they had a drill team going…

Youtube Video

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:41:45pm

re: #135 recusancy

Inline styles are not against w3c standards.

Standards, no, best practices, definitely. I mean, you could put every letter in its own div if you want, and it would be legal, but it would also be moronic. Seriously, look at the source on prisonplanet. It’s a nightmare.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:42:26pm

this is how f*cked up our laws are

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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:43:48pm

re: #128 Fozzie Bear

He’s probably afraid of the W3C, because clearly, that organization is bent on dominating the internet, and through it, the world!

“Best practices!?!?!! HAH! You are just trying to control my mind! I’ll do my style inline! That’ll show that evil W3C!”

Standards are tyrrany!

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:44:11pm

re: #139 Fozzie Bear

Actually, I take that back. Apparently, its only the archived articles that are formatted that way. The front page is fine.

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allegro Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:44:39pm

re: #131 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

What, are WELS pastors in the habit of telling people “no”?

You joined this church, and you’re gonna STAY in this chruch, missy!

WELS is so weird.

I as thinking the same thing. They’ve gotta ask permission to not go there anymore? No authoritarianism there, no sir.

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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:44:57pm

re: #140 Dreggas

this is how f*cked up our laws are

Rabblerouser.

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steve_davis Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:45:01pm

re: #5 engineer dog

generic republican will balance the budget, lower your taxes, and increase employment with a wave of his powerful republican hand

generic republican knows who our enemies are and says tough, manly things to them

generic republican has an attractive spouse, a beautiful family, is always morally virtuous and never does anything seedy

generic republican will repeal all federal laws that annoy you or any of your friends some of whom for some reason seem to be the koch brothers and rupert mordoch

Don’t fuck with Honey Generic Republican Badger!

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BongCrodny Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:46:09pm

re: #66 sliv_the_eli

Damn, that’s twice on my dates today. Excuse me while I go fire my fact-checker.

And for what it’s worth, I don’t know if I’d agree that the first President Bush was popular: before he imploded, Mike Dukakis had a healthy lead over Bush for significant part of the 1988 campaign; and in 1992 he lost.

G.H.W.B. might have been popular during the first Gulf War, but it certainly doesn’t seem to be fore a particularly long period of time.

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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:47:56pm

re: #129 lawhawk

I think the Hinton resignation qualifies as a Friday night news dump. Try to get the big names out of the way before the weekend when no one pays attention…

He was also head of Fox news for a while. The contagion is spreading.

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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:49:09pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

I’ve haven’t experienced a scandal of this scale in my life (Only 21).

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simoom Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:49:11pm

A pretty offensive Fox Nation editorial:

Barack Obama: Problem Child

Remember that nasty, little ginger kid in the 90s film, Problem Child? He was an orphan named Junior that the parents thought was so cute and so adorable, that they just had to adopt him. Little did they know that looks can be deceiving because as soon as he moves in, all hell breaks loose. He runs around with no regard for others and when he does not get his way the temper tantrums come out in full force. Instead of fixing problems, he causes them, making things detrimentally worse.
If only this movie had not come to life. Instead it is the reality of our nation and its current president who is all too willing to play politics with every issue he has faced during his tenure. …

So now the problem child is dramatically sitting through negotiations with Republicans. …

Back to the movie, Problem Child: Before the parent’s adopted Junior, the orphanage relentlessly tried to tame him to no avail. Eventually they figured out the only solution was to get rid of him.

November 6, 2012: Change is Coming

Naturally, the sort of commentors attracted with that sort of an article are happy to run with the frame:

That about sums it up…a problem…a child.
18 people liked this

Evil evil man child
Like
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Yes he and it could have been prevented if only his liberal commie parents had spank some sense into him as a child. But wait they needed a good whipping as well.
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the biggest problem is that his mom didn’t use birth control, yes now we have a problem child.
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You have to remember that Barry was very confused as a kid. He didn’t know what race he belonged to and couldn’t understand why his friends kept calling him an oreo cookie.
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Speaks volumes about mixed marriages, doesn’t it?
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look at his eyes … pure evil
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Obama is a product of his environment. Socialists parents, Socialists Universities, Militant preachers. Chicago politics.
How else would you expect him to turn out?
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I don’t know, I would have shot myself.

Remember the day when you could get away with giving your child a little spanking for acting up? Obama needs to have his behind paddled, perhaps then he would smell the coffee
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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:50:26pm

re: #146 BongCrodny

At least Bush Sr. had the good sense to raise taxes when it had to be done to control the deficit, and to not try to occupy Iraq, because he knew it would be a nightmare. I give him some credit for that. He wasn’t a zealot.

Funny thing is, Cheney knew about Iraq too. He knew it would be a nightmare, that is, before he was VP.

Youtube Video

(Ignore the moonbat comments.)

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Alexzander Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:51:34pm

Anyone here familiar with the toureg/Mali music group Tinariwen?

I’m seeing them tomorrow night in Seattle and I’m pretty excited. They were supposed to headline the Folk Fest. in Vancouver BC but they got denied entry to Canada twice…

Here is a recent music video:

Youtube Video

So epic.

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ProBosniaLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:51:44pm

Look at what Qaddafi said today.

I will put children upon each tanks and car and Nato can’t target them

There is nothing to say here. Only rage.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:52:57pm

re: #152 ProLifeLiberal

Look at what Qaddafi said today.

There is nothing to say here. Only rage.

That right there is the fucking definition of evil, if there ever was one. I have no words.

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Kragar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:53:54pm

re: #152 ProLifeLiberal

Look at what Qaddafi said today.

There is nothing to say here. Only rage.

Fucker needs to die.

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BongCrodny Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:54:18pm

re: #109 SanFranciscoZionist

In the Philippines, Henry Makow, 48, discovered a tropical paradise where women are still traditional and the husband is the head of the household. A Long Way to Go for a Date is Makow’s candid and ironic account of his courtship and marriage to a young Filipina (shown on cover.) The book recounts his quest for love and masculine identity at a time when both are under siege in America.

Includes the essay: “In Defense of Heterosexuality”
128 pp.

I’m reading “masculine identity” here as “keep ‘em barefoot and pregnant.”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:54:18pm

re: #152 ProLifeLiberal

that’s truly disgusting.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:54:29pm

Do we have any weapons that could kill the occupants of a tank without killing a kid sitting on top of said tank? Is that even possible?

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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:54:29pm

re: #148 ProLifeLiberal

I’ve haven’t experienced a scandal of this scale in my life (Only 21).

I think it’s going to get bigger. These top Murdoch officials aren’t resigning over the actions of some rogue underlings. They are bailing because this thing goes all the way to the top.

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Stan the Demanded Plan Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:55:18pm

re: #149 simoom

A pretty offensive Fox Nation editorial:

Barack Obama: Problem Child

Naturally, the sort of commentors attracted with that sort of an article are happy to run with the frame:

Vile.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:55:27pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

Yep. They are bailing because they know it will lead to them ultimately. I mean, why did Murdoch close News of the World so quickly, unless it was to make it such that there was no organization left to investigate?

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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:57:32pm

re: #149 simoom

A pretty offensive Fox Nation editorial:

Barack Obama: Problem Child

Naturally, the sort of commentors attracted with that sort of an article are happy to run with the frame:

If they’re going to run pieces written by “college Republicans”, they should be heavy handed in the editing. Instead we get this:

Back to the movie, Problem Child: Before the parent’s adopted Junior, the orphanage relentlessly tried to tame him to no avail.

/pedant rant off

/edited twice in Preview

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:57:37pm

re: #160 Fozzie Bear

I hope you are right and this thing blows up and eats them all. I hope it doesn’t wind up “going nowhere”.

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Lidane Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:58:04pm

re: #158 Killgore Trout

I think it’s going to get bigger. These top Murdoch officials aren’t resigning over the actions of some rogue underlings. They are bailing because this thing goes all the way to the top.

Oh, but it’s unimportant. Don’t you know? That’s what Fox & Friends is saying, anyhow.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:58:18pm

re: #160 Fozzie Bear

Yep. They are bailing because they know it will lead to them ultimately. I mean, why did Murdoch close News of the World so quickly, unless it was to make it such that there was no organization left to investigate?

Ok, somebody tell me if I’m off on a nonsensical tangent here, but what are people’s thoughts about why NotW was so rapidly shuttered? It doesn’t make sense to me to dismantle a centuries-old paper of this. I mean, was it so that they could legally destroy records? Or was it just because Murdoch wanted the BskyB thing to go through so badly?

Thoughts?

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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:58:50pm

re: #151 Alexzander

Anyone here familiar with the toureg/Mali music group Tinariwen?

I’m seeing them tomorrow night in Seattle and I’m pretty excited. They were supposed to headline the Folk Fest. in Vancouver BC but they got denied entry to Canada twice…

Were they wearing Bruins sweatshirts?

Here is a recent music video:

[Video]So epic.

Cool music.

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 1:58:54pm

Are Mark Levin and Sean Hannity still using the word “tyranny” every 5 seconds when blathering about the US government and its president?

Meanwhile, in Jordan…

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Lidane Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:00:32pm

re: #151 Alexzander

Never heard of them, but they’re way cool. I’ll have to add them to my Turntable.fm playlist so others can hear them.

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:00:48pm

re: #160 Fozzie Bear

Yep. They are bailing because they know it will lead to them ultimately. I mean, why did Murdoch close News of the World so quickly, unless it was to make it such that there was no organization left to investigate?

My conspiracy theory says that some of the crooked cops they were working with tipped them off that Scotland Yard was about to go Clockwork Orange on their asses and they panicked.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:01:07pm

re: #164 Fozzie Bear

well, where there’s smoke there’s usually fire and I have a feeling closing it down was the quickest way to try and prevent the fire from spreading. However, it’s too late.

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PuppyCat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:01:27pm

I too would vote for the mystery candidate - an intelligent, moderate Republican capable of rational thought and totally removed from the Tea Party antics would get my vote, if they ran the right campaign.

Unfortunately, such a mystery candidate doesn’t exist because anyone fitting this bill is too damn smart to run for POTUS.

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Alexzander Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:02:43pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Cool music.

I really recommend checking out some of their albums - they really are pretty awesome. Sounds like a hybrid of West African music and American Blues, although apparently their Western influences were the likes of Santana, Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix etc.

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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:03:40pm

re: #171 Alexzander

I really recommend checking out some of their albums - they really are pretty awesome. Sounds like a hybrid of West African music and American Blues, although apparently their Western influences were the likes of Santana, Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix etc.

One’s tailoring influence was Jerry Garcia.

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makeitstop Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:05:35pm

Okay, Lizards. Off to play my first of four gigs in three days - two tonight. w00t!

Enjoy your evening! See y’all tomorrow…

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Political Atheist Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:08:01pm

re: #170 JABenningfield

I too would vote for the mystery candidate - an intelligent, moderate Republican capable of rational thought and totally removed from the Tea Party antics would get my vote, if they ran the right campaign.

Unfortunately, such a mystery candidate doesn’t exist because anyone fitting this bill is too damn smart to run for POTUS.

Have you looked at Huntsman at all?

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SpaceJesus Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:13:13pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

are you talking about the big Fox News or all the little ones run by Fox Broadcast

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sagehen Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:16:43pm

re: #150 Fozzie Bear

At least Bush Sr. had the good sense to raise taxes when it had to be done to control the deficit, and to not try to occupy Iraq, because he knew it would be a nightmare. I give him some credit for that. He wasn’t a zealot.

Funny thing is, Cheney knew about Iraq too. He knew it would be a nightmare, that is, before he was VP.

[Video](Ignore the moonbat comments.)

Bush the Elder knew he had a choice between doing what’s best for the country, and doing what would get him reelected. He made the honorable and patriotic choice, for which he’ll always have my respect (even though he’s sort of clueless about a lot of domestic issues, was hideously tone-deaf about the LA riots, and I kind of felt bad for voting against him on that basis in ‘92).

Bush the Lesser… I still despise with the white hot passion of a thousand burning suns.

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sagehen Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:20:08pm

re: #162 Dreggas

I hope you are right and this thing blows up and eats them all. I hope it doesn’t wind up “going nowhere”.

“Dear God, please let Roger Ailes be implicated. Please let Fox News lose their license. Amen.”

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Stan the Demanded Plan Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:23:00pm

Oh the irony in this whole thing.

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal urged Rebekah Brooks to quit.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk…]

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sagehen Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:26:17pm

re: #151 Alexzander

Anyone here familiar with the toureg/Mali music group Tinariwen?

I’m seeing them tomorrow night in Seattle and I’m pretty excited. They were supposed to headline the Folk Fest. in Vancouver BC but they got denied entry to Canada twice…

Here is a recent music video:

[Video]So epic.

They’re supposed to be in New York next week — let us know how it is, if I should try to get tickets.

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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:28:59pm

re: #97 Fozzie Bear

rotating globe gif! Image: 090603globe.gif

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:29:06pm

Google has gone too far with this lame achievement system regarding reading news articles. Am I the only one that thinks its extremely weird to get a gold star for reading the news?

I mean, really? What’s next, high scores instead of page ranks?

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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:31:30pm

Lol at Drudge headlines….

NEWS CORP reports $125K in 2011 political giving…
Contributions overwhelmingly favor Dems…

Will they give donations back?

Wow, this is going to be uhhh….interesting.
Next up: The Tea Party was a leftist hoax!

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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:32:19pm

re: #181 Fozzie Bear

Google has gone too far with this lame achievement system regarding reading news articles. Am I the only one that thinks its extremely weird to get a gold star for reading the news?

I mean, really? What’s next, high scores instead of page ranks?

I saw that yesterday. It’s just plain weird and more than a little creepy.

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Fozzie Bear Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:36:38pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

I’m glad i’m not the only one to feel this way. Google+, otoh, is pretty neat. I definitely like it better than Facebook so far, particularly the circles. When I have a comment to make about, say, programming, it doesn’t make sense for my mom to see it. Similarly, none of my business contacts are going to give a shit if I get a kitten.

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Targetpractice Fri, Jul 15, 2011 2:37:44pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

Lol at Drudge headlines…

Wow, this is going to be uhhh…interesting.
Next up: The Tea Party was a leftist hoax!

Yeah, I always love that tactic.

“Democrats target major corporation.”
“BREAKING: Democrats received major donations from major corporation!”
“Experts declare: Democrats bunch of hypocrites!”

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