Thanks to LGF’s wrenchwench for pointing out this video from the Dave Letterman show, of John Hiatt with a terrific band playing “The Open Road” from his latest album. This performance is even better than the album version, with Doug Lancio on guitar, Patrick O’Hearn on bass, and Kenny Blevins on drums.
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:41:57pm |
Talking to a British guy on TVTropes. He's saying that the chance of government collapse in Britain has certainly risen, though it has been high for a few months.
The Cameron Government may be claimed by this scandal. I have no clue how the Republican Party would be affected.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:45:31pm |
The Bachmanns are victims of hate crimes because of their sexual orientation.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:46:44pm |
Hey all!
How's life this Friday evening?
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Alexzander Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:51:18pm |
re: #4 ggt
Hey all!
How's life this Friday evening?
Had a solid week.
Organized a meeting between a local police officer and homeless youth concerning recent changes to trespass law and managed to solicit nearly 100 dollars in pizza to feed everyone.
Not so much luck on the job front though. @I%@#(%
Listening to Wu-Tang: Think Differently right now.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:51:43pm |
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:52:12pm |
re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth
The Bachmanns are victims of hate crimes because of their sexual orientation.
[Video]
poor hapless victims of an immoral, secular society
/
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:54:42pm |
re: #7 ralphieboy
I guess criticizing a politician's discriminatory, anti-gay rhetoric is now discrimination against their religion, and a hate crime against their sexual orientation.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 15, 2011 3:59:37pm |
re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth
I guess criticizing a politician's discriminatory, anti-gay rhetoric is now discrimination against their religion, and a hate crime against their sexual orientation.
just like calling out a bully prompts them to pout and snivel...
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:01:26pm |
re: #8 Slumbering Behemoth
reverse discrimination/racism now applies to religion and sexual orientation.
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Alexzander Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:02:39pm |
Now listening to Bon Iver's latest (and eponymous) album.
Here's the only video released so far:
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:03:46pm |
re: #1 albusteve
white soul...he's about the best
Teena Marie takes that title, in my book. She's actually beyond white soul, she's just flat-out soul.
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AK-47% Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:03:53pm |
re: #11 Dreggas
reverse discrimination/racism now applies to religion and sexual orientation.
heterosexuality is a matter of choice, isn't it?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:04:10pm |
re: #5 Alexzander
Had a solid week.
Organized a meeting between a local police officer and homeless youth concerning recent changes to trespass law and managed to solicit nearly 100 dollars in pizza to feed everyone.
Not so much luck on the job front though. @I%@#(%
Listening to Wu-Tang: Think Differently right now.
No, but you are keeping active and making good contacts!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:07:42pm |
re: #10 ralphieboy
just like calling out a bully prompts them to pout and snivel...
They won't let us kick them around anymore! It's depriving me of my right to RULE!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:10:23pm |
re: #11 Dreggas
reverse discrimination/racism now applies to religion and sexual orientation.
Same old bigots, same old age-old gripes.
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Alexzander Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:17:25pm |
re: #15 ggt
Yeah that is my strategy at the moment. I think I am a little too shy in real life to mention that I could just a little help finding a 'real' job but I think the tide is turning because I've made some good connections.
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Alexzander Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:21:59pm |
Right now I'm organizing a group of volunteers from a local church to make home-made pizzas for the same homeless youth group I help facilitate.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:25:39pm |
re: #20 Alexzander
Right now I'm organizing a group of volunteers from a local church to make home-made pizzas for the same homeless youth group I help facilitate.
Go to 10 local pizza places and ask each of them for 2 balls of D'oh (dough). Bet they'll be happy to help.
And good evening honcos.
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allegro Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:28:47pm |
re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth
The Bachmanns are victims of hate crimes because of their sexual orientation.
[Video]
Where the heck in the bible does it talk about praying away the gay?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:34:31pm |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:34:44pm |
re: #22 allegro
Where the heck in the bible does it talk about praying away the gay?
I do know that the bible mentions that the bird is the word.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:35:18pm |
OT Jennifer Lopez is divorcing Skeletor.
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engineer cat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:37:46pm |
i had no idea the death ceiling was even dirty!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:42:18pm |
Heh, Drudge took down all his links trying to pawn Murdoch off on the Democrats. That didn't last long.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:44:27pm |
re: #22 allegro
Where the heck in the bible does it talk about praying away the gay?
It's just a few verses from the part that says we can exploit this planets resources however we like and pollute as much as we want because only The Lord has the power to fuck up this earth.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:44:52pm |
re: #25 Stanley Sea
Ah ha! Now is my chance!
/
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:46:41pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:48:20pm |
re: #30 Cannadian Club Akbar
Shit. You just wrecked my follow up joke. You win.
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engineer cat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:48:42pm |
weekend movie choices:
Harry Potter and the Very Lucrative Franchise
X-Men - the Forgotten Sequel
Transformers: Love Stories for Plastic Toys
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:51:34pm |
re: #32 engineer dog
Why not go with "Generic Romantic Comedy #2,756: We Didn't Like Each Other At First, But Now We're In Love".
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:52:21pm |
re: #32 engineer dog
My radio said Harry Potter sold out 6000 midnight showings today. WOW!
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engineer cat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:52:49pm |
re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth
Why not go with "Generic Romantic Comedy #2,756: We Didn't Like Each Other At First, But Now We're In Love".
or, how about
Bored Engineer XXVIII: The Very Long Compile
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:53:48pm |
re: #35 engineer dog
Sounds like a porno. I say go for it!
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:54:31pm |
re: #32 engineer dog
weekend movie choices:
Harry Potter and the Very Lucrative Franchise
X-Men - the Forgotten Sequel
Transformers: Love Stories for Plastic Toys
I'd probably pick the X-Men one.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:55:05pm |
re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar
I do know that the bible mentions that the bird is the word.
I keep hoping that some day Seth MacFarlane will be beaten to death by a mob of deranged Futurama and King of the Hill fans, but it never happens.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:55:23pm |
All right. Time to hit the Farmer's Market. Laters all.
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sod Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:55:25pm |
re: #12 Alexzander
Saw them open for Wilco, I don't think they were very well known at that time. Both my wife and I preferred them to Wilco. I've since worn a groove in For Emma...
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:57:02pm |
Your High-Drama 80's Keyboards Clip of the Day:
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:57:56pm |
re: #19 Alexzander
Yeah that is my strategy at the moment. I think I am a little too shy in real life to mention that I could just a little help finding a 'real' job but I think the tide is turning because I've made some good connections.
Don't be so shy, people love to help.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 4:58:30pm |
re: #20 Alexzander
Right now I'm organizing a group of volunteers from a local church to make home-made pizzas for the same homeless youth group I help facilitate.
You sound like a natural community organizer, and I mean that in a good way.
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engineer cat Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:00:21pm |
re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar
I do know that the bible mentions that the bird is the word.
[Video]
is that in the Book of Love?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:02:03pm |
I ate from a wonderful Indian buffet today. Lentil fritters, some really great chopped green bean thing and MANGO PUDDING.
I ate no meat and still had my pudding.
Wish I had a recipe for the green bean thing, it was soo good.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:02:09pm |
re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth
Why not go with "Generic Romantic Comedy #2,756: We Didn't Like Each Other At First, But Now We're In Love".
Every Bollywood movie ever:
We Are From Wildly Different Socioeconomic Backgrounds, And Have Fallen In Love Despite The Knowledge That Our Respective Families Would Vehemently Disapprove. Also, There Is Elaborate Choreography At Random Intervals For No Discernable Reason, And At Some Point One Or Both Of Us Will Be Put In Mortal Peril By Dangerous Criminals.
Runtime: 3hrs 23min
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:02:35pm |
Twitter
by Reilly4Sanity
There were 224 Tweets sent on July 15, 2006. Today, users send that many Tweets in less than a tenth of a second.
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:07:29pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:08:13pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:08:30pm |
re: #12 Alexzander
Now listening to Bon Iver's latest (and eponymous) album.
Here's the only video released so far:[Video]
Exquisite album. I've come to like it far more than "For Emma", especially the Beth/Rest track. Helps that the band is from my hometown in the middle of Wisconsin... ;)
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:14:15pm |
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Alexzander Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:15:53pm |
re: #52 wlewisiii
Exquisite album. I've come to like it far more than "For Emma", especially the Beth/Rest track. Helps that the band is from my hometown in the middle of Wisconsin... ;)
I've listened to the latest album quite a bit but I think For Emma had such a special place in my heart that it is impossible for the new album to really compare.
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Digital Display Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:19:16pm |
re: #53 Killgore Trout
Hooray!
I'm going to the Lodge tonight.. I guess half of Oklahoma is visiting this weekend.. I'm going to Karaoke and am practicing some songs...
It will really be fun tonight
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:21:49pm |
Murdoch admits 'I've let my father down' as he makes emotional apology to Milly's family
Pressure grew on his son James Murdoch, chairman of News Corporation, over ‘hush money’ payments he approved to phone hacking victims.
Hacking, bribes and now hush money. I'm trying to think of this objectively. If an American car manufacturer (or any other company) did this in Europe they'd be fucked. Maybe an oil company can get away with this in Africa but this is an American company fucking around with Europe. Murdoch's toast.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:22:30pm |
re: #55 HoosierHoops
Happy Friday, Hoopster!
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austin_blue Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:23:01pm |
re: #55 HoosierHoops
I'm going to the Lodge tonight.. I guess half of Oklahoma is visiting this weekend.. I'm going to Karaoke and am practicing some songs...
It will really be fun tonight
It takes a fair amount of adult beverages to get me to Karaoke. Which defeats the purpose because my voice, rhythm, and sense of pitch/tone goes to hell in a handcart.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:23:35pm |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
Hopefully, very BURNT toast!
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EdDantes Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:23:43pm |
re: #48 Stanley Sea
by Reilly4Sanity
There were 224 Tweets sent on July 15, 2006. Today, users send that many Tweets in less than a tenth of a second.
I love the new social media like tweeter. I may be older than most of you but I'm still hip and in the groove (as the young folks say.)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:24:50pm |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
Murdoch admits 'I've let my father down' as he makes emotional apology to Milly's family
Hacking, bribes and now hush money. I'm trying to think of this objectively. If an American car manufacturer (or any other company) did this in Europe they'd be fucked. Maybe an oil company can get away with this in Africa but this is an American company fucking around with Europe. Murdoch's toast.
we can only hope
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:25:46pm |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
It's interesting that it's the one son that Murdoch primed for takeover, the one who shares his political views, who's the one who did this.
He's admitted to some serious culpability now. I don't think it looks good for him. A relatively apolitical friend of mine in the UK is furious about this. He basically compared this to Wikileaks.
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sod Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:27:23pm |
re: #52 wlewisiii
re: #54 Alexzander
I've posted about these guys here before, if you haven't heard The Black Atlantic I'd urge you to follow the link and download their (now older) debut album which they offer for free.
It's really good and has a uniqueness to it like I think Bon Iver has.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:27:42pm |
re: #58 austin_blue
It takes a fair amount of adult beverages to get me to Karaoke. Which defeats the purpose because my voice, rhythm, and sense of pitch/tone goes to hell in a handcart.
I'm going to make an ass out of myself tonight. It's been a week, hopefully they've forgotten, or it's a different crowd.
hahaha, it's really fun for people who don't go to bars to necessarily pick up. (kind ruins that activity actually)
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:27:49pm |
re: #46 ggt
I ate from a wonderful Indian buffet today. Lentil fritters, some really great chopped green bean thing and MANGO PUDDING.
I ate no meat and still had my pudding.
Wish I had a recipe for the green bean thing, it was soo good.
Between Indian cuisine and Korean cuisine, that's how I get my vegetables.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:28:10pm |
re: #62 Obdicut
It's interesting that it's the one son that Murdoch primed for takeover, the one who shares his political views, who's the one who did this.
He's admitted to some serious culpability now. I don't think it looks good for him. A relatively apolitical friend of mine in the UK is furious about this. He basically compared this to Wikileaks.
Yeah, it's pretty serious. I think this may have reached critical mass. No amount of political influence or favor is going to save him.
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Digital Display Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:29:55pm |
re: #58 austin_blue
It takes a fair amount of adult beverages to get me to Karaoke. Which defeats the purpose because my voice, rhythm, and sense of pitch/tone goes to hell in a handcart.
Because I've sang and played guitar most of my life and those dang nuns beat it into us to sing on key...I am not shy..I'll jump up anywhere and anytime and sing any dang thing you please...I'm ok but not great...But not shy....Tonight I'm going to sing later on Wing Horses by the Stones..
Jeez I've played and sang that song like a zillion times in my life..But I'm going to start with Home..Great rock song
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Digital Display Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:30:30pm |
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:31:38pm |
re: #60 EdDantes
I love the new social media like tweeter. I may be older than most of you but I'm still hip and in the groove (as the
youngmiddle aged folks say.)
FTFY.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:32:25pm |
re: #64 Stanley Sea
Just watch out for the camera phones!
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:33:47pm |
re: #66 Killgore Trout
I'm hoping this wipes out Fox News.
The anger and hatred I have would disappear if they lose the news channel.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:34:46pm |
re: #60 EdDantes
in the groove (as the young folks say.)
The Young Folks haven't said "in the groove" since 1985.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:34:51pm |
re: #72 ProLifeLiberal
Someone else would just buy it & make the profits.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:36:53pm |
Time to go home. Maybe to have another rhubarb smoothie, like last night. Mmmm!
Tomorrow I'll blow the dust out of my 'puter tower. Then:
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:38:58pm |
re: #73 negativ
The Young Folks haven't said "in the groove" since 1985.
before that --I was young in 1985 and I didn't say that. I don't remember what I did say, but it wasn't that. I think we said something was "sweet".
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:39:45pm |
re: #74 Floral Giraffe
Someone else would just buy it & make the profits.
A group of Radio Talkers would try to get together and buy it.
Limbaugh, Imus, Hannity Inc.
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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:40:16pm |
re: #63 sod
re: #54 Alexzander
I've posted about these guys here before, if you haven't heard The Black Atlantic I'd urge you to follow the link and download their (now older) debut album which they offer for free.
It's really good and has a uniqueness to it like I think Bon Iver has.
[Video]
Thanks for the pointer, I'll check them out.
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EdDantes Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:40:41pm |
re: #73 negativ
The Young Folks haven't said "in the groove" since 1985.
OK, I'm off a few decades: There have been so many of them.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:40:43pm |
re: #62 Obdicut
It's interesting that it's the one son that Murdoch primed for takeover, the one who shares his political views, who's the one who did this.
He's admitted to some serious culpability now. I don't think it looks good for him. A relatively apolitical friend of mine in the UK is furious about this. He basically compared this to Wikileaks.
From what I read Machlan was the first/favored son and he left because of Ailes.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:40:52pm |
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:41:03pm |
re: #74 Floral Giraffe
No. Not good enough.
Since High School I have had my character questioned, been called a traitor, been called a Nazi, ridiculed or saying evolution is fact, and other mistreatment just for being a Liberal. I remember all of it.
I want vengeance. Maybe if the News Corp in the US is implicated, the Liberals in the US will grow a spine and counter the Republicans, and call them out in the most brutal ways possible.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:41:05pm |
re: #76 ggt
before that --I was young in 1985 and I didn't say that. I don't remember what I did say, but it wasn't that. I think we said something was "sweet".
In our neck of the woods it was "rad".
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:42:09pm |
re: #82 ProLifeLiberal
No. Not good enough.
Since High School I have had my character questioned, been called a traitor, been called a Nazi, ridiculed or saying evolution is fact, and other mistreatment just for being a Liberal. I remember all of it.
I want vengeance. Maybe if the News Corp in the US is implicated, the Liberals in the US will grow a spine and counter the Republicans, and call them out in the most brutal ways possible.
Verbally, of course.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:42:28pm |
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:42:57pm |
re: #84 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Of course. Unlike the other side, I am civilized in my rage.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:44:05pm |
re: #80 Stanley Sea
I think I misspelled both names. Oh well.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:45:59pm |
re: #82 ProLifeLiberal
No. Not good enough.
Since High School I have had my character questioned, been called a traitor, been called a Nazi, ridiculed or saying evolution is fact, and other mistreatment just for being a Liberal. I remember all of it.
I want vengeance. Maybe if the News Corp in the US is implicated, the Liberals in the US will grow a spine and counter the Republicans, and call them out in the most brutal ways possible.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:46:24pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:47:43pm |
re: #86 ProLifeLiberal
Of course. Unlike the other side, I am civilized in my rage.
I'm just wondering, if NewsCorp goes down what's going to take it's place? There will always be a market of dumb bigoted conservative dupes to exploit like Fox/House of Saud News does. Watergate didn't stop the Republican party of becoming the party of wingnuts and aholes it is, today.
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:48:06pm |
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ProGunLiberal Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:49:51pm |
re: #90 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
True. But in my case, this isn't entirely rational. This is, in large part, based on the stuff I remember in my past.
I want the satisfaction that they lose something valuable to them.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:50:10pm |
re: #82 ProLifeLiberal
You could buy it & run it into the ground.
That might satisfy you...
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kirkspencer Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:57:03pm |
re: #90 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I'm just wondering, if NewsCorp goes down what's going to take it's place? There will always be a market of dumb bigoted conservative dupes to exploit like Fox/House of Saud News does. Watergate didn't stop the Republican party of becoming the party of wingnuts and aholes it is, today.
It depends.
If just the umbrella (NewsCorp) goes down, then it's what you described. But we know that some of the undergroups will fall - see NotW for now, and there's noise about The Sun. Hinton's resignation opens DowJones (Wall Street Journal, Barron's, Dow Jones Indexes, etc) to the possibility of investigation and closure/revision.
It won't stop them, but there's the possibility of them having to spend a decade or three regrouping. Given the number of things they're opposing that would suddenly be unblocked...
Again, it depends on which fall and how severely they fall.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jul 15, 2011 5:57:45pm |
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:01:10pm |
re: #80 Stanley Sea
From what I read Machlan was the first/favored son and he left because of Ailes.
Was being the key word there. And he disagreed with his father politically, as well.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:02:02pm |
re: #92 ProLifeLiberal
I want the satisfaction that they lose something valuable to them.
Question is, then what happens?
I'm not arguing with you, I'm just saying, ex: they lost legalized segregation and are losing legalized antigay discrimination. Look at them seething in the tea party, now.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:02:35pm |
re: #72 ProLifeLiberal
I'm hoping this wipes out Fox News.
The anger and hatred I have would disappear if they lose the news channel.
I'm starting to think that's a very likely possibility. If nothing else, they were paying a lot of hush money, bribes and hackers which were not properly accounted for on their books. Fraud, illegal accounting, and probably tax evasion will sink them even if the allegations of hacking 9-11 victims doesn't pan out.
As the investigation progresses there is going to be some jail time, people are going to start talking. We're going to learn a lot more about the inner workings of the Murdoch empire. Outlets like the Wall Street Journal can probably be salvaged but I think Fox is going to be too damaged for even the Koch Brothers to bother with.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:08:10pm |
re: #94 kirkspencer
It depends.
If just the umbrella (NewsCorp) goes down, then it's what you described. But we know that some of the undergroups will fall - see NotW for now, and there's noise about The Sun. Hinton's resignation opens DowJones (Wall Street Journal, Barron's, Dow Jones Indexes, etc) to the possibility of investigation and closure/revision.
It won't stop them, but there's the possibility of them having to spend a decade or three regrouping. Given the number of things they're opposing that would suddenly be unblocked...
Again, it depends on which fall and how severely they fall.
I agree with that, though it reminds me of the fall of both the Moral Majority and Christian Coalition. Those groups are just shells of what they were, but a billion more have taken their place.
Some of the front page stories Charles has posted in recent days have been about the whackjob Christian right. None of what they are doing is new and has been around for at least 30 years. If F'ed Noise falls you could be right about them taking a decade to regroup. But I just think all those whackos will be folded into the next big rwnj thing.
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BongCrodny Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:08:19pm |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
Murdoch admits 'I've let my father down' as he makes emotional apology to Milly's family
Hacking, bribes and now hush money. I'm trying to think of this objectively. If an American car manufacturer (or any other company) did this in Europe they'd be fucked. Maybe an oil company can get away with this in Africa but this is an American company fucking around with Europe. Murdoch's toast.
Boo fucking hoo. Murdoch would gladly have kept the hush money going had the whole repulsive mess not come to light.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:08:44pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:09:17pm |
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:11:53pm |
re: #101 Decatur Deb
"Hep"
Groovy and hep have died rather ignominious deaths, but 'cool' seems to have survived the decades.
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:13:04pm |
re: #102 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
bitchennn!
My mother used to say that a lot.
"Damn it kid, stop your bloody bitchennn, or I'll give you a reason to".
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:18:05pm |
re: #2 ProLifeLiberal
Talking to a British guy on TVTropes. He's saying that the chance of government collapse in Britain has certainly risen, though it has been high for a few months.
The Cameron Government may be claimed by this scandal. I have no clue how the Republican Party would be affected.
The GOP won't be hit directly. If worse comes to worse, they'll throw Fox News under the bus. The hit would be indirect, as the Republican party would lose a major outlet to its base.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:20:36pm |
re: #104 b_sharp
My mother used to say that a lot.
"Damn it kid, stop your bloody bitchennn, or I'll give you a reason to".
Yeah but did she say it while leaning back and throwing up 2 hands with a m/ ?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:22:09pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:24:42pm |
re: #82 ProLifeLiberal
No. Not good enough.
Since High School I have had my character questioned, been called a traitor, been called a Nazi, ridiculed or saying evolution is fact, and other mistreatment just for being a Liberal. I remember all of it.
I want vengeance. Maybe if the News Corp in the US is implicated, the Liberals in the US will grow a spine and counter the Republicans, and call them out in the most brutal ways possible.
No, you shouldn't want that. You can start that kind of hate campaign fairly easily, but stopping it won't be so easy. Moreover, you'd force sane people like me and my friends and family to make common cause with the wingnuts out of pure political self-defense.
Don't force me into a corner like that, PLL. If you do, things will get worse, far worse. Is your revenge worth civil war?
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:29:15pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
No, you shouldn't want that. You can start that kind of hate campaign fairly easily, but stopping it won't be so easy. Moreover, you'd force sane people like me and my friends and family to make common cause with the wingnuts out of pure political self-defense.
You wouldn't be forced to do so, Dark. You'd be making a free choice that your political allegiance is more important than morals, ethics, or your country.
You've already made common cause with the wingnuts, from what I've seen. The Republicans as a whole, have.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:33:29pm |
re: #109 Obdicut
You wouldn't be forced to do so, Dark. You'd be making a free choice that your political allegiance is more important than morals, ethics, or your country.
You've already made common cause with the wingnuts, from what I've seen. The Republicans as a whole, have.
Not hardly. If you're committed to one side, you can't just jump ship. In doing so I'd have to give up on a whole array of issues that are important to me and I don't want to do that. Moreover, I think that PLL's anger clouds his judgement and I don't think things will actually get to the point I described.
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jvic Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:41:16pm |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
...I don't think things will actually get to the point I described.
I hope not, but some influential strategists on both sides are trying to get things to that point. IMHO the plan is to make politics so...dionysian...that the average citizen has no choices except picking an extreme or not participating.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:42:30pm |
Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle
--Thomas Jefferson
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:44:28pm |
re: #112 ggt
Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle
--Thomas Jefferson
Could you please remind Grover Norquist of that?
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jvic Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:45:18pm |
re: #112 ggt
Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle
--Thomas Jefferson
Someone (I don't know who) said that only a fool turns an opponent into an enemy.
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Bipartite Gnomenclature Fri, Jul 15, 2011 6:57:35pm |
re: #106 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yeah but did she say it while leaning back and throwing up 2 hands with a m/ ?
No, she usually had an enormous wooden spoon in her hands. A wooden spoon that was never used for cooking.
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Obdicut Fri, Jul 15, 2011 7:00:51pm |
re: #110 Dark_Falcon
Not hardly. If you're committed to one side, you can't just jump ship. In doing so I'd have to give up on a whole array of issues that are important to me and I don't want to do that.
This isn't at all true. There are no actual sides. You're completely allowed to keep the issues that are important to you without giving up on them. I have no idea why you think stopping supporting the GOP and their current lunacy involves giving up anything.
Moreover, I think that PLL's anger clouds his judgement and I don't think things will actually get to the point I described.
Things are already at that point from the GOP point of view. They already launch attacks of that sort on Democrats. They already are attacking the president of the US in that manner.
It's kind of disgraceful, and has been for quite awhile.
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