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Edward R. Murrow

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1 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 8:55:26pm

Evening Lizards.

2 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 8:57:21pm

Oh oh .... anything goes..... it's an open thread!

3 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 8:58:57pm
4 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 8:59:45pm

re: #2 Mr Pancakes

Oh oh ... anything goes... it's an open thread!

I'd take my pants off, but I already wasn't wearing any. Hmm... I could take off my socks.

5 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:01:09pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

News Corp shares tumble as hacking scandal deepens

Morning bell tomorrow is going to be a lot of fun.

6 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:02:39pm

re: #5 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Morning bell tomorrow is going to be a lot of fun.

7 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:05:03pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Video]

8 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:07:06pm

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd take my pants off, but I already wasn't wearing any. Hmm... I could take off my socks.

Thank god Charles hasn't incorporated webcam yet.

10 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:07:35pm

re: #9 darthstar

And yes, those are her real feet.

11 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:08:26pm

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd take my pants off, but I already wasn't wearing any. Hmm... I could take off my socks.

Wouldn't that make your penis cold?

12 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:09:03pm

re: #7 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

[Video]

13 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:09:20pm

Cripes!

14 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:09:25pm

re: #5 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Morning bell tomorrow is going to be a lot of fun.

They're going to have to stop ignoring this story sooner or later.

15 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:10:39pm

Does the Fox Channel have anything on except Casey Anthony? Geez, I flip thru and for the last three hours . . . .

16 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:11:09pm

Good evening ladies and germs.

17 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:11:20pm

re: #14 darthstar

They're going to have to stop ignoring this story sooner or later.

18 shutdown  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:11:46pm

Hello all
just downloaded Spotify. Pretty neat

19 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:13:04pm

Your High-Drama 80s Keyboards Clip of the Day:

20 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:13:34pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

News Corp shares tumble as hacking scandal deepens

Look out below!

21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:14:18pm

re: #15 ggt

Does the Fox Channel have anything on except Casey Anthony? Geez, I flip thru and for the last three hours . . .

What are they saying?

22 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:15:15pm

re: #11 darthstar

Wouldn't that make your penis cold?

It's a trap!

23 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:15:31pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

News Corp shares tumble as hacking scandal deepens

Breaking News: "For Sale" sign spotted outside front door of Fox News offices, "Best Offer" written below.

/

24 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:16:25pm

re: #21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

What are they saying?

We're going to talk about Casey Anthony being released so that we don't have to talk about our corporate parent being investigated for hacking people's cell phones.

25 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:17:15pm

You gotta laugh. Perhaps this scandal won't bring down News Corp however it's still enjoyable to watch the wingnuts squirm over this. Their stock has been taking a major hit and it keeps dropping. It will likely fall in the DOW come morning. Arrests are being made. People are resigning or being fired. News of the World is shut down for good. News Corps was hacking 9/11 victims families (allegedly). Not just ordinary victims families but families who lost loved ones when we were attacked by terrorists on September 11, 2001. All of this with Fox News and the faux patriots that follow them to the point of behaving like members of a deranged cult. Laugh-out-fucking-loud!

26 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:17:19pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

OT, but do you mind if we continue the debate from the last page?

27 shutdown  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:17:32pm

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Aren't you just itching to now if they fiddled with Casey Anthony's cellphone?

28 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:17:48pm

re: #19 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Your High-Drama 80s Keyboards Clip of the Day:

[Video]

Nice, and I'll raise you this 70's prog keyboard video.

29 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:18:56pm

Herman Cain: Communities can ignore first amendment

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Sunday that communities have a right to ban Islamic mosques. (ed: as opposed to Catholic Mosques or Shinto Mosques?)

Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," the former Godfather's Pizza CEO said protests and legal challenges to a planned mosque in Tennessee city are an example of local residents pushing back.

Cain said his view doesn't amount to religious discrimination because he says Muslims are trying to inject Shariah law into the U.S.

Using that logic, we should see about banning churches due to Christians injecting biblical law into the US.

30 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:19:53pm

re: #22 Slumbering Behemoth

It's a trap!

Trap trap or 4-Chan...

Never mind.

31 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:20:25pm

Not sure if I'm late in hearing this, but apparently Brooks has been released on bail. The news article I'm reading doesn't list any charges, but I'm feeling more confident that there's some kind of deal in the works.

32 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:20:50pm

re: #26 ProLifeLiberal

OT, but do you mind if we continue the debate from the last page?

OK. I just posted my last reply down there. Just quote it when you post your reply here.

33 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:20:57pm

re: #21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

What are they saying?

Released eh?

34 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:21:13pm

re: #29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Herman Cain: Communities can ignore first amendment

Using that logic, we should see about banning churches due to Christians injecting biblical law into the US.

Jesus H. Christ. That man is an idiot. What the hell is wrong with the Republican Party? Have they gone in insane? Do they honestly think some dope asshole like Cain even stands a chance? About the only chance the GOP has is with Mitt Romney -- full stop. Giuliani will never get elected because he's far too "ethnic" for the idiot seeds. That's it' All they have. Romney.

Drink!

35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:21:13pm

re: #25 Gus 802

News Corps was hacking 9/11 victims families (allegedly). Not just ordinary victims families but families who lost loved ones when we were attacked by terrorists on September 11, 2001.

By mostly Saudis.

The Saudi Royals have a stake in News Crap.

The bin Talals better hope News Crap didn't do it.

36 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:22:56pm

re: #27 imp_62

Aren't you just itching to now if they fiddled with Casey Anthony's cellphone?

If they did, then I want to see the people who did the hacking go to prison. In the meantime, I'm going to look into anti-hacking software for myself but especially for any friends who use smartphones. Because if hacking phones is this easy, we might be looking at a wave of it.

37 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:23:25pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Released eh?

It comforts me to see that we normalize vigilante behavior via the humor of a serial killer from a TV show. It means life really can imitate art.

38 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:23:31pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Don't you know, dude? The relatives of the 9/11 victims are millionaires reveling in their celebrity status, and enjoying their husband's deaths a bunch.
/Coulter

39 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:23:43pm

re: #35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

By mostly Saudis.

The Saudi Royals have a stake in News Crap.

The bin Talals better hope News Crap didn't do it.

Yeah. I forgot his name. We covered that numerous times at LGF in the past few years. Not once did the Fox News fan boys engage in any introspection. They can't. They're just not hard wired for that sort of thing. It's genetic. A genetic deficiency of sorts.

40 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:24:11pm

Well, I checked my fb and am now thoroughly pissed-off.

Ohio Scumbag announces resignation.

41 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:24:30pm

re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Released eh?

She's lucky Dexter Morgan is only fictional.

42 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:24:43pm

re: #21 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

What are they saying?

Nothing, what is there to say? They are just saying it anyway over and over and over . . .

43 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:25:03pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

She's lucky Dexter Morgan is only fictional.

Very much so.

44 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:25:42pm

re: #28 Mr Pancakes

Nice, and I'll raise you this 70's prog keyboard video.

[Video]

Oh now that was fun. Do you listen to Aural Moon?

45 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:26:01pm

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Trap trap or 4-Chan...

Never mind.

I will have nothing to do with 4-Chan, and have never once linked any of their garbage. Fuck them, I say.

46 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:26:34pm

re: #34 Gus 802

Herman Cain apparently thinks the 1st Amendment does not apply to Islam, a position not supported by any reputable Constitutional scholar, left or right.

47 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:27:34pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

Herman Cain apparently thinks the 1st Amendment does not apply to Islam, a position not supported by any reputable Constitutional scholar, left or right.

Well, some animals are more equal than others . . . it's in the Bible.

/gah

48 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:28:22pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

She's lucky Dexter Morgan is only fictional.

Somebody else isn't...a woman who looks like Casey Anthony got attacked 1,000 miles from Florida the other day.

49 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:28:43pm

re: #45 Slumbering Behemoth

I will have nothing to do with 4-Chan, and have never once linked any of their garbage. Fuck them, I say.

They love it when you say that.

50 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:29:05pm

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't you know, dude? The relatives of the 9/11 victims are millionaires reveling in their celebrity status, and enjoying their husband's deaths a bunch.
/Coulter

Coulter is seriously disgusting. You would think that after saying that they would have thrown her under the bus. No chance. It's a cultural gap thing. Coulter's fans don't care about the 9/11 victims wives she mentioned over and over again is because they're New Yorkers. But hey they're throwing the 9/11 victims families under the bus again through their silence. The same as they did with Pat Tillman, the FDNY and the NYPD. Funny, that "hero" thing didn't last very long with the wingnuts.

51 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:30:11pm

re: #47 ggt

Well, some animals are more equal than others . . . it's in the Bible.

/gah

It sure as Hell isn't in the Constitution. Being a strict constructionist means excepting that the Constitution lets people do things you don't like. Some on the right are having trouble with the concept and that bothers me greatly.

52 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:30:37pm

re: #37 darthstar

It comforts me to see that we normalize vigilante behavior via the humor of a serial killer from a TV show. It means life really can imitate art.

I only watched the episodes that had Ajax in 'em. I think I have a man-crush on James Remar.

53 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:31:08pm

re: #40 ggt

Well, I checked my fb and am now thoroughly pissed-off.

Ohio Scumbag announces resignation.

Yep...paging next "family-values" candidate who wants to prove he's a piece of shit too.

54 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:31:27pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

Herman Cain apparently thinks the 1st Amendment does not apply to Islam, a position not supported by any reputable Constitutional scholar, left or right.

If he's not careful, the people he's trying to impress are gonna find out he's from a Black Separatist Baptist Hate the White Culture Racist denomination. /

So I don't know who he thinks he is kidding.

55 jvic  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:31:48pm

Four preliminaries: I identify as a conservative. Fox News has not held my attention. I would not be sorry to see the Murdoch empire broken up. I would not be sorry to see the Murdochs, if convicted in a fair trial, sent to prison for massive invasions of privacy.

That said, I am concerned that governments here and abroad will use this scandal as a pretext to restrict the media.

56 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:31:53pm

re: #44 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh now that was fun. Do you listen to Aural Moon?

No... please share.

57 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:32:07pm

re: #53 darthstar

Please be Eric Cantor.

58 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:32:18pm

Can anyone recommend a good pay-for-service site that has a decent collection of online movies and tv shows available for streaming?

Netflix has changed its plan and now, come Sept 01, 2011, i'm going to be charged $15.98+tax for 1 movie (unlimited) and unlimited streaming. I want to keep the 1 movie unlimited but not the streaming.

Any suggestions, lizards?

60 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:33:41pm

re: #50 Gus 802

Coulter is seriously disgusting. You would think that after saying that they would have thrown her under the bus. No chance. It's a cultural gap thing. Coulter's fans don't care about the 9/11 victims wives she mentioned over and over again is because they're New Yorkers. But hey they're throwing the 9/11 victims families under the bus again through their silence. The same as they did with Pat Tillman, the FDNY and the NYPD. Funny, that "hero" thing didn't last very long with the wingnuts.

They gave Beck a pass when he said he hated them.

Filthy bigots.

61 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:33:58pm

re: #50 Gus 802

Coulter is seriously disgusting. You would think that after saying that they would have thrown her under the bus. No chance. It's a cultural gap thing. Coulter's fans don't care about the 9/11 victims wives she mentioned over and over again is because they're New Yorkers. But hey they're throwing the 9/11 victims families under the bus again through their silence. The same as they did with Pat Tillman, the FDNY and the NYPD. Funny, that "hero" thing didn't last very long with the wingnuts.

Coulter has a shtick..... even Bill Maher knows this, being a close friend of hers.

62 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:35:12pm

re: #57 ProLifeLiberal

Please be Eric Cantor.

Eric Cantor is too unlikable for anyone to give a shit what he does with his private life.

63 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:35:17pm

re: #61 Mr Pancakes

Worst. Porno. Ever.

64 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:35:22pm

OT, but something bizarre happened on Wikipedia.

I made a mention of the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt seems to be fracturing in a new topic on the talk page. While they did add a sentence about this to the article, the talk page is now gone.

W.T.F.?????

65 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:35:43pm

re: #56 Mr Pancakes

No... please share.

Will open in iTunes [Link: bit.ly...]

66 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:35:50pm

re: #62 darthstar

But then he won't be there to tard up the debt talks.

Let it be with a kitten.

67 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:36:10pm

re: #63 Slumbering Behemoth

Worst. Porno. Ever.

I wouldn't say that... I own the movie Panty Raid.

68 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:36:15pm

re: #55 jvic

Four preliminaries: I identify as a conservative. Fox News has not held my attention. I would not be sorry to see the Murdoch empire broken up. I would not be sorry to see the Murdochs, if convicted in a fair trial, sent to prison for massive invasions of privacy.

That said, I am concerned that governments here and abroad will use this scandal as a pretext to restrict the media.

Well, Murdoch et al doesn't seem to care that Casey Anthony got a fair trail. As much as people who weren't involved and haven't read the police files want her to be crucified, it doesn't work that way. Fox News is stirring the pot.

69 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:36:47pm

re: #59 eclectic infidel

cute slippers..

They are her real feet!

70 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:38:39pm

re: #61 Mr Pancakes

Coulter has a shtick... even Bill Maher knows this, being a close friend of hers.

She has a shtick and is always hiding behind that shtick. Yeah, it's regular old comedy routine. Which is why she gets invited to CPAC and countless other "conservative" gatherings but is never introduced as a comedian.

Speaking of Maher. I'm not too crazy about him either. ;)

71 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:39:02pm

re: #55 jvic

Four preliminaries: I identify as a conservative. Fox News has not held my attention. I would not be sorry to see the Murdoch empire broken up. I would not be sorry to see the Murdochs, if convicted in a fair trial, sent to prison for massive invasions of privacy.

That said, I am concerned that governments here and abroad will use this scandal as a pretext to restrict the media.

When the news media begins to pursue an agenda rather than the truth, to the point of violating numerous laws and codes of common decency, then restriction is not my biggest worry.

72 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:39:13pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

It sure as Hell isn't in the Constitution. Being a strict constructionist means excepting that the Constitution lets people do things you don't like. Some on the right are having trouble with the concept and that bothers me greatly.

me too!

The Cognitive Dissonance is going to be tangible come election time.

73 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:39:25pm

re: #55 jvic

Four preliminaries: I identify as a conservative. Fox News has not held my attention. I would not be sorry to see the Murdoch empire broken up. I would not be sorry to see the Murdochs, if convicted in a fair trial, sent to prison for massive invasions of privacy.

That said, I am concerned that governments here and abroad will use this scandal as a pretext to restrict the media.

You shouldn't worry about that here. Here, Fox has a perfectly legal First Amendment right to propagandize the gullible.

74 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:40:26pm

re: #68 ggt

Well, Murdoch et al doesn't seem to care that Casey Anthony got a fair trail. As much as people who weren't involved and haven't read the police files want her to be crucified, it doesn't work that way. Fox News is stirring the pot.

It gives Fox a way to distract its viewers. And if someone gets killed in the process, then they can cover that. Better then talking about Newscorp's Watergate.

75 darthstar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:40:47pm

re: #66 ProLifeLiberal

But then he won't be there to tard up the debt talks.

Let it be with a kitten.

No...let it be with an older woman. Someone who looks like an ashtray on a good day.

76 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:40:55pm

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

It gives Fox a way to distract its viewers. And if someone gets killed in the process, then they can cover that. Better then talking about Newscorp's Watergate.

Tabloid TV.

77 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:41:46pm

re: #53 darthstar

Yep...paging next "family-values" candidate who wants to prove he's a piece of shit too.

I don't think there's any end to these family values hypocrites.

Dumb bigots.

78 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:42:03pm

re: #70 Gus 802

She has a shtick and is always hiding behind that shtick. Yeah, it's regular old comedy routine. Which is why she gets invited to CPAC and countless other "conservative" gatherings but is never introduced as a comedian.

Speaking of Maher. I'm not too crazy about him either. ;)

I don't like either of them.

79 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:43:11pm

re: #65 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Will open in iTunes [Link: bit.ly...]

I liked it...... a touch too jazzy for me. I'm more of a 70's prog guy.

80 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:44:44pm

A haiku for the night.

I wish I were dead
Gaga AND Perry songs are
Stuck inside my head

81 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:44:51pm

re: #68 ggt

Well, Murdoch et al doesn't seem to care that Casey Anthony got a fair trail. As much as people who weren't involved and haven't read the police files want her to be crucified, it doesn't work that way. Fox News is stirring the pot.

I read an article a day or two ago about the jurors in that case. Apparently, when the verdict was read, they couldn't look at Casey because they didn't want to see her glee at the verdict. It seems they believe she's in some way involved in Caylee's death - but the bottom line was that the prosecution did not do its job of proving what that involvement was.

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:45:01pm

re: #78 Mr Pancakes

I don't like either of them.

I like them both. A lot.

Sort of the same way I like having a violent case of chicken pox and a full body rash of poison oak at the same time.
/

83 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:45:54pm

re: #80 JasonA

A haiku for the night.

I wish I were dead
Gaga AND Perry songs are
Stuck inside my head

84 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:46:11pm

And now for something on the lighter side, here's some photos of Britney Spears's son going swiming with their aunt, cousin, and grandmother.

I ran across these earlier today. Sometimes celebrity photos are a good diversion from a scandal. Not that I'm not paying attention, but you want to look at something else for at least a short time. That and as far as young mothers go, Jamie Lynn Spears looks a good bit better than Bristol Palin.

/Sorry, I'm a guy.

85 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:46:14pm

re: #80 JasonA

A haiku for the night.

I wish I were dead
Gaga AND Perry songs are
Stuck inside my head

Here, watch this, it'll clear your mind:

86 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:46:56pm

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth

I like them both. A lot.

Sort of the same way I like having a violent case of chicken pox and a full body rash of poison oak at the same time.
/

You like that too?..... I'd like to add to that the Novocaine needle they shoot in your gum before they pull a tooth.

87 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:47:14pm

re: #39 Gus 802

Yeah. I forgot his name. We covered that numerous times at LGF in the past few years. Not once did the Fox News fan boys engage in any introspection. They can't. They're just not hard wired for that sort of thing. It's genetic. A genetic deficiency of sorts.

Eh, those people are lazy, ignorant slobs who do what they are told, and they have been told introspection is for the f%gs, and very French.

88 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:48:02pm

re: #81 reine.de.tout

I read an article a day or two ago about the jurors in that case. Apparently, when the verdict was read, they couldn't look at Casey because they didn't want to see her glee at the verdict. It seems they believe she's in some way involved in Caylee's death - but the bottom line was that the prosecution did not do its job of proving what that involvement was.

That's it from my reading as well. They didn't like Casey, but they felt that she had not been proven to have killed her daughter. It was tough call, but in my view the right one. A modern version of 12 Angry Men, in some ways.

89 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:48:14pm

re: #83 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Kragar, why do you hate me?

90 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:48:16pm

re: #80 JasonA

A haiku for the night.

I wish I were dead
Gaga AND Perry songs are
Stuck inside my head

One of the benefits of not owning a TV. Although. I do have to admit that I enjoy looking at Katy Perry. But that's about it.

91 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:48:26pm

re: #81 reine.de.tout

I read an article a day or two ago about the jurors in that case. Apparently, when the verdict was read, they couldn't look at Casey because they didn't want to see her glee at the verdict. It seems they believe she's in some way involved in Caylee's death - but the bottom line was that the prosecution did not do its job of proving what that involvement was.

There was no evidence, as I understand it. In such cases, if no one talks what can a jury do? They aren't serving on the jury of a witchtrial.

I think it's clear the whole family is bat-shit crazy, but that doesn't mean they are criminals--until proven so.

92 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:48:52pm

re: #83 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #85 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Aww, you guys... just when I thought no one gave a shit.

{{{Kragar}}}{{{Target}}}

93 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:49:21pm

re: #90 Gus 802

One of the benefits of not owning a TV. Although. I do have to admit that I enjoy looking at Katy Perry. But that's about it.

Well I have a 12 year old daughter...... I have to listen to her.

94 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:49:56pm

re: #89 Slumbering Behemoth

Kragar, why do you hate me?

95 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:50:06pm

re: #79 Mr Pancakes

I liked it... a touch too jazzy for me. I'm more of a 70's prog guy.

Oh you should listen. They play a lot of 70s prog, from all over the world. Check out The Gagliarchives show if you get the chance. [Link: bit.ly...]

You will love Aural Moon. Ok,I love Aural Moon lol. But I think you will enjoy it.

96 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:50:09pm

re: #90 Gus 802

One of the benefits of not owning a TV. Although. I do have to admit that I enjoy looking at Katy Perry. But that's about it.

I have to hear them at work. Over and over and over and over...

97 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:50:37pm

re: #95 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh you should listen. They play a lot of 70s prog, from all over the world. Check out The Gagliarchives show if you get the chance. [Link: bit.ly...]

You will love Aural Moon. Ok,I love Aural Moon lol. But I think you will enjoy it.

I'll check it out... thanks.

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:50:45pm

re: #90 Gus 802

I do have to admit that I enjoy looking at Katy Perry.

You could screen a film on that forehead of hers, but I'd still buy her a drink.

99 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:51:04pm

re: #81 reine.de.tout

I read an article a day or two ago about the jurors in that case. Apparently, when the verdict was read, they couldn't look at Casey because they didn't want to see her glee at the verdict. It seems they believe she's in some way involved in Caylee's death - but the bottom line was that the prosecution did not do its job of proving what that involvement was.

Really, what could they do? The prosecution bet the farm on murder 1, when they had no murder weapon, no eyewitness to the murder itself, and no motive that didn't rely on Casey being a habitual liar. She wasn't Mother of the Year material by any stretch, but they totally failed to prove her guilty of premeditated murder.

100 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:51:25pm

re: #96 JasonA

I have to hear them at work. Over and over and over and over...

I got fired from a bike shop once. First day. I changed the radio station. LOL That and I clucked like a chicken. Strange place. The owner had his sons working there.

101 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:51:54pm

re: #98 Slumbering Behemoth

You could screen a film on that forehead of hers, but I'd still buy her a drink.

Hey! Nobody's perfect!

//

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:51:57pm

re: #96 JasonA

I have to hear them at work. Over and over and over and over...

I've been meaning to ask you, are there any new job openings in Hell?
/

103 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:53:01pm

re: #101 Gus 802

Hey! Nobody's perfect!

//

And I'm nobody...hence...yeah, I think we've all heard this joke a couple million times by now.

/

104 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:53:29pm

re: #96 JasonA

I have to hear them at work. Over and over and over and over...

Do you work at a dentist's office? /

105 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:53:57pm

re: #98 Slumbering Behemoth

She's better than Kesha. That's all I have to say on that.

I have a similar opinion to Todd in the Shadows on her.

106 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:54:00pm

re: #104 Gus 802

re: #102 Slumbering Behemoth

Laugh it up, fuzzballs...

107 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:54:10pm

re: #101 Gus 802

I can't hate. My hairline has been running scared from my brow line for some time now.

108 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:54:59pm

re: #105 ProLifeLiberal

She's better than Kesha. That's all I have to say on that.

Oh man, Kesha. wtf.

109 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:55:22pm

re: #91 ggt

There was no evidence, as I understand it. In such cases, if no one talks what can a jury do? They aren't serving on the jury of a witchtrial.

I think it's clear the whole family is bat-shit crazy, but that doesn't mean they are criminals--until proven so.

Yeah that family - that's another story altogether.

110 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:56:35pm

Ugh. That reminds me. Most of the "music" acts on the Today Show. Blech. Whew. Glad I don't have to hear that stuff crap all day long.

111 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:58:07pm

re: #101 Gus 802

Hey! Nobody's perfect!

//

My daughter hates Justin Bieber thank god ....... but some of Lady Gaga's stuff isn't bad. When I say that it's because she writes her music and plays instruments.

And hey.... she digs Led Zeppelin!

Before she was Lady Gaga.

112 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:59:11pm

Chris Brown... LOL Good God he sucked. I know I just said I don't have a TV but I've been going inside to do something and seeing it while inside my sister's place. Yeesh. Talk about junk.

113 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:59:29pm

re: #111 Mr Pancakes

My daughter hates Justin Bieber thank god ... but some of Lady Gaga's stuff isn't bad. When I say that it's because she writes her music and plays instruments.

And hey... she digs Led Zeppelin!

Before she was Lady Gaga.

[Video]

Gaga's kool. Her schtick sells

114 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:00:17pm

re: #111 Mr Pancakes

There is one particular singer that, while makes me average among my group of friends, put me wildly outside my demographic.

Let's see if anyone can figure it out.

115 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:00:50pm

re: #110 Gus 802

Ugh. That reminds me. Most of the "music" acts on the Today Show. Blech. Whew. Glad I don't have to hear that stuff crap all day long.

Whats not to like about pop music?

116 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:01:39pm

re: #114 ProLifeLiberal

There is one particular singer that, while makes me average among my group of friends, put me wildly outside my demographic.

Let's see if anyone can figure it out.

I'll need another hint.

117 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:01:55pm

re: #115 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats not to like about pop music?

[Video]

I'll have to put that on lay-away.

Gazooks! Seen enough with the preview. Is that an Eastern European singer?

//

118 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:02:20pm

re: #114 ProLifeLiberal

There is one particular singer that, while makes me average among my group of friends, put me wildly outside my demographic.

Let's see if anyone can figure it out.

Is that like the most ambiguous question ever asked?

119 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:02:28pm

re: #116 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

My friends are (with one exception) women my age.

120 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:02:35pm

re: #117 Gus 802

I'll have to put that on lay-away.

Gazooks! Seen enough with the preview. Is that an Eastern European singer?

//

Canadian I think.

121 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:02:40pm

Does anyone think the average FOX viewer even knows about the scandal and possible criminal activities of NewsCorp?

122 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:03:14pm

re: #118 Mr Pancakes

Maybe. But I'm like the Cheshire Cat. I like doing riddles.

I just don't have an opportunity to do them much here.

123 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:03:32pm

re: #114 ProLifeLiberal

There is one particular singer that, while makes me average among my group of friends, put me wildly outside my demographic.

Let's see if anyone can figure it out.

Please don't say it's Josh Grobin.

124 jvic  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:03:59pm

re: #73 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

You shouldn't worry about that here. Here, Fox has a perfectly legal First Amendment right to propagandize the gullible.

Did you read about the Indiana Supreme Court case a while ago? The judges decided you have no right to resist police who enter your home illegally. Take it up with the courts later (if you can afford a lawyer).

The opinion was written by a Republican judge appointed by a Republican governor in a Republican state. The Attorney General said the court might have gone somewhat too far; otherwise, hardly a peep afaik: the situation doesn't fit anyone's partisan narrative.

It can't happen here--until it does. You bet I worry.

125 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:04:04pm

re: #121 ggt

Does anyone think the average FOX viewer even knows about the scandal and possible criminal activities of NewsCorp?

If they do I'm sure they just gloss over it as NewsCorp being attacked by the librul media.

126 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:04:10pm

re: #122 ProLifeLiberal

Maybe. But I'm like the Cheshire Cat. I like doing riddles.

I just don't have an opportunity to do them much here.

Well..... ok can you give us the gender and country of origin?

127 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:04:51pm

re: #124 jvic

Did you read about the Indiana Supreme Court case a while ago? The judges decided you have no right to resist police who enter your home illegally. Take it up with the courts later (if you can afford a lawyer).

The opinion was written by a Republican judge appointed by a Republican governor in a Republican state. The Attorney General said the court might have gone somewhat too far; otherwise, hardly a peep afaik: the situation doesn't fit anyone's partisan narrative.

It can't happen here--until it does. You bet I worry.

This in one of the strongest 2nd Amendment States.

Let's hope any Police wanting to enter homes in Indiana remember that.

128 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:05:14pm

re: #121 ggt

Does anyone think the average FOX viewer even knows about the scandal and possible criminal activities of NewsCorp?

I'm not sure, has Fox really covered the whole deal? Only thing I heard (in passing) so far was them running a story about how people should "move on" and that it wasn't that big a deal.

129 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:05:18pm

re: #122 ProLifeLiberal

Maybe. But I'm like the Cheshire Cat. I like doing riddles.

I just don't have an opportunity to do them much here.

Is it bigger than a breadbox?

130 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:05:24pm

re: #121 ggt

Does anyone think the average FOX viewer even knows about the scandal and possible criminal activities of NewsCorp?

Good question. Probably not. Or at least a significant percentage. I know I haven't "watched" one single news report about this. Only been reading about it. So if they only watch Fox News and avoid the internet they might not know. Especially if they're shut-ins of sorts.

131 stevemcg  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:05:24pm

re: #104 Gus 802

Do you work at a dentist's office? /

I actually put together a "Dentist Office" playlist on my iTunes! Dionne Warwick, Bee Gees, Richard Harris, 5th Dimension, etc.

132 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:05:32pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

News Corp shares tumble as hacking scandal deepens

Good news. Let the free market work.

133 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:05:43pm

re: #124 jvic

Did you read about the Indiana Supreme Court case a while ago? The judges decided you have no right to resist police who enter your home illegally. Take it up with the courts later (if you can afford a lawyer).

The opinion was written by a Republican judge appointed by a Republican governor in a Republican state. The Attorney General said the court might have gone somewhat too far; otherwise, hardly a peep afaik: the situation doesn't fit anyone's partisan narrative.

It can't happen here--until it does. You bet I worry.

You got a case name, I wanna look it up.

134 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:06:16pm

re: #131 stevemcg

I actually put together a "Dentist Office" playlist on my iTunes! Dionne Warwick, Bee Gees, Richard Harris, 5th Dimension, etc.

I have that stuff in my playlist......

135 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:06:25pm

re: #131 stevemcg

I actually put together a "Dentist Office" playlist on my iTunes! Dionne Warwick, Bee Gees, Richard Harris, 5th Dimension, etc.

That's it! Perfect! Wow. You must have put together the play list for my last dentist.

136 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:06:26pm

re: #131 stevemcg

I actually put together a "Dentist Office" playlist on my iTunes! Dionne Warwick, Bee Gees, Richard Harris, 5th Dimension, etc.

That's just wrong (borderline sick, actually)

137 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:06:27pm

re: #117 Gus 802

I'll have to put that on lay-away.

Gazooks! Seen enough with the preview. Is that an Eastern European singer?

//

These are

138 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:06:49pm

re: #128 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm not sure, has Fox really covered the whole deal? Only thing I heard (in passing) so far was them running a story about how people should "move on" and that it wasn't that big a deal.

FNC's Website had a proper article on the scandal, but it was in the World News section, not in Top Stories.

139 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:06:52pm

re: #134 Mr Pancakes

I have that stuff in my playlist...

That's cool too. ;)

140 stevemcg  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:06:58pm

re: #132 Iwouldprefernotto

Good news. Let the free market work.

I think the stock will go up if investors think that NewsCorp will jettison its money losing newspapers.

141 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:07:11pm

re: #126 Mr Pancakes

Female, United States.

142 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:07:36pm

re: #141 ProLifeLiberal

Female, United States.

Famous in what decade?

143 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:08:22pm

re: #128 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm not sure, has Fox really covered the whole deal? Only thing I heard (in passing) so far was them running a story about how people should "move on" and that it wasn't that big a deal.

That was a great segment with Doocy talking to a publicist, talking about how we should move on to more important things. Best part? The piece ends with telling his viewers to stay tuned for coverage of Casey Anthony.

144 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:08:44pm

re: #142 Mr Pancakes

Famous in what decade?

I got it!

145 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:08:57pm

re: #142 Mr Pancakes

Past couple years to now.

146 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:09:06pm

re: #141 ProLifeLiberal

Female, United States.

I'm going to say Ella Fitzgerald.

147 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:09:21pm

re: #146 Dark_Falcon

I'm going to say Ella Fitzgerald.

ROTFLAMO!

148 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:09:29pm

re: #124 jvic

The opinion was written by a Republican judge appointed by a Republican governor in a Republican state.

You don't say. ///

///
///

149 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:09:41pm

re: #145 ProLifeLiberal

Oops.

150 stevemcg  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:09:42pm

Taylor Swift?

151 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:10:14pm

re: #138 Dark_Falcon

FNC's Website had a proper article on the scandal, but it was in the World News section, not in Top Stories.

Not surprising, they want to keep pretending that this will all stay isolated across the pond. Something tells me they're in for a rude awakening when the morning bell sounds in a few hours.

152 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:10:25pm

re: #133 ggt

You got a case name, I wanna look it up.

Richard L. Barnes v. State of Indiana (.pdf)

153 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:10:30pm

re: #150 stevemcg

And we have a winner. I said earlier that my taste in music was rather broad.

Never said it was great. :P

154 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:10:37pm

re: #145 ProLifeLiberal

Past couple years to now.

P!NK?

155 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:10:46pm

re: #131 stevemcg

I actually put together a "Dentist Office" playlist on my iTunes! Dionne Warwick, Bee Gees, Richard Harris, 5th Dimension, etc.

I'll take one!

156 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:10:53pm

re: #141 ProLifeLiberal

Female, United States.

Peggy Lee?

//

157 stevemcg  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:11:03pm

I just fell back in love with Linda Rondstadt. I had forgotten all about her until I found a batch of CD's that I hadn't copied to my library.

158 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:11:12pm

re: #133 ggt

No Right to Resist Unlawful Police Entry: Indiana Supremes

The court issued its 3-2 ruling on Thursday, contending that allowing residents to resist officers who enter their homes without any right would increase the risk of violent confrontation. If police enter a home illegally, the courts are the proper place to protest it, Justice Steven David said. “We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,” David said. “We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”

Scary to say the least.

159 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:11:13pm

This recent stuff has me stumped...... I was hoping it was Grace Slick or Stevie Nicks or something.

160 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:11:46pm

re: #105 ProLifeLiberal

She's better than Kesha. That's all I have to say on that.

I have a similar opinion to Todd in the Shadows on her.

I'm more of a Tania Duarte/Lori S. kind of guy myself.

161 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:11:55pm

re: #140 stevemcg

I think the stock will go up if investors think that NewsCorp will jettison its money losing newspapers.

News of the World didn't lose money, it was NewsCorp's most profitable newspaper in the UK.

162 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:12:31pm

re: #150 stevemcg

Taylor Swift?

Way to go stevemcg...... you win a set of steak knives!

163 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:13:11pm

re: #152 goddamnedfrank

Richard L. Barnes v. State of Indiana (.pdf)

Thank you, saved and printed.

164 stevemcg  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:14:00pm

re: #155 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I'll take one!

BTW that was the '72-ish Bee Gees. Also included: Mason Williams, Michael Murphey (not WILDFIRE), Oliver, the Guess Who, the Carpenters...

165 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:14:16pm

re: #143 JasonA

That was a great segment with Doocy talking to a publicist, talking about how we should move on to more important things. Best part? The piece ends with telling his viewers to stay tuned for coverage of Casey Anthony.

[Video]

"Hey now, everybody's getting hacked, so why does anybody care? And it happened back the past, so why are you worrying about it? Why isn't the media paying attention to the Pentagon getting hacked? And we're on the edge of default (except when we argue that we're not)! Can't you see that there are things far more important, like how Casey Anthony got away with murder?!"

//

166 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:14:23pm

re: #144 ggt

I got it!

I've linked this before but this is probably my favorite Ella youtube

167 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:14:32pm

re: #162 Mr Pancakes

Way to go stevemcg... you win a set of steak knives!

Never would have come-up with that, not in a million years.

168 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:14:53pm

re: #165 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Hey now, everybody's getting hacked, so why does anybody care? And it happened back the past, so why are you worrying about it? Why isn't the media paying attention to the Pentagon getting hacked? And we're on the edge of default (except when we argue that we're not)! Can't you see that there are things far more important, like how Casey Anthony got away with murder?!"

//

rotfl

169 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:15:17pm

re: #166 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I've linked this before but this is probably my favorite Ella youtube

[Video]

Sad as it is, I remember seeing that when it aired. Sittin' on the couch with my Mom and Dad.

170 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:15:58pm

re: #153 ProLifeLiberal

And we have a winner. I said earlier that my taste in music was rather broad.

Never said it was great. :P

Well she did videos with Def Leppard........ That put her in the cool column for me.

171 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:16:59pm

re: #164 stevemcg

BTW that was the '72-ish Bee Gees. Also included: Mason Williams, Michael Murphey (not WILDFIRE), Oliver, the Guess Who, the Carpenters...

Yeah see, that sounds interesting.

Wildfire, omg.

Here's one for you

Best voice, ever

172 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:17:08pm

re: #169 ggt

Sad as it is, I remember seeing that when it aired. Sittin' on the couch with my Mom and Dad.

My Mom and Dad were making fun of Mel Torme because he thought the applause was ALL FOR HIM. People, including my parents, only wanted to hear Ella.

173 stevemcg  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:17:59pm

re: #170 Mr Pancakes

Well she did videos with Def Leppard... That put her in the cool column for me.

[Video]

I can't bear to click on it. I'm ok with Swift, I'm a little cool on DL, but I don't think it's proper to mix the two.

174 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:18:50pm

re: #170 Mr Pancakes

Hell, she just gained points in my book too, and she was already a B.

175 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:18:52pm

re: #171 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah see, that sounds interesting.

Wildfire, omg.

Here's one for you

[Video]Best voice, ever

Mexicana........

176 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:19:01pm

re: #165 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

"Hey now, everybody's getting hacked, so why does anybody care? And it happened back the past, so why are you worrying about it? Why isn't the media paying attention to the Pentagon getting hacked? And we're on the edge of default (except when we argue that we're not)! Can't you see that there are things far more important, like how Casey Anthony got away with murder?!"

//

I love how corporations being hacked is on the same page as a corporation hacking 4,000 cell phones. I'm not saying one is worse than the other, but they're two very different things.

177 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:19:48pm

re: #170 Mr Pancakes

Well she did videos with Def Leppard... That put her in the cool column for me.

[Video]

Cool.

178 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:20:04pm

re: #172 ggt

My Mom and Dad were making fun of Mel Torme because he thought the applause was ALL FOR HIM. People, including my parents, only wanted to hear Ella.

Yeah must have been a feather in his cap. But he did have some pipes on him, must say.

179 jvic  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:20:25pm

re: #133 ggt

You got a case name, I wanna look it up.

1. A couple of people have beat me to it. Note that the police intrusion during the events under consideration seems legal. The court went out of its way to mandate the expansion of police power.

2. A county sheriff immediately declared that the decision authorizes him to conduct house-to-house searches.

180 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:21:21pm

re: #173 stevemcg

I can't bear to click on it. I'm ok with Swift, I'm a little cool on DL, but I don't think it's proper to mix the two.

Dude it's not bad...... she's not up to the power, but they give her a stage. Joe Elliot said he would have kicked Kanye's ass if he would have been there when Kanye dissed her.

181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:21:45pm

re: #179 jvic

1. A couple of people have beat me to it. Note that the police intrusion during the events under consideration seems legal. The court went out of its way to mandate the expansion of police power.

2. A county sheriff immediately declared that the decision authorizes him to conduct house-to-house searches.

Teabagger police state

182 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:21:52pm

re: #179 jvic

1. A couple of people have beat me to it. Note that the police intrusion during the events under consideration seems legal. The court went out of its way to mandate the expansion of police power.

2. A county sheriff immediately declared that the decision authorizes him to conduct house-to-house searches.

Demographics of Crown Point have nothing to do with it?

183 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:22:28pm

re: #181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Teabagger police state

DON'T GET ME STARTED.

184 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:22:43pm

re: #180 Mr Pancakes

Dude it's not bad... she's not up to the power, but they give her a stage. Joe Elliot said he would have kicked Kanye's ass if he would have been there when Kanye dissed her.

lol

[Link: kanyegate.tumblr.com...]

185 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:23:33pm

re: #180 Mr Pancakes

I would have too.

The man's an undeniable douchebag. Obama's comment on that was apt.

186 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:24:26pm

re: #176 JasonA

I love how corporations being hacked is on the same page as a corporation hacking 4,000 cell phones. I'm not saying one is worse than the other, but they're two very different things.

Sounded to me like one line whine about why people are paying attention to this story, instead of to more "important" ones. While at the same time trying to downplay hacking as something that "everybody" is having done to them, so why is this some big shock? You can practically taste the desperation.

187 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:24:31pm

re: #180 Mr Pancakes

Dude it's not bad... she's not up to the power, but they give her a stage. Joe Elliot said he would have kicked Kanye's ass if he would have been there when Kanye dissed her.

Now that I would have liked to see. Kanye is a worthy entertainer, but when he speaks off the cuff he truly has a gift for saying things he shouldn't.

188 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:24:36pm

re: #180 Mr Pancakes

Dude it's not bad... she's not up to the power, but they give her a stage. Joe Elliot said he would have kicked Kanye's ass if he would have been there when Kanye dissed her.

Beyonce did the job perfectly.

189 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:24:41pm

re: #185 ProLifeLiberal

I would have too.

The man's an undeniable douchebag. Obama's comment on that was apt.

We are in total 100% agreement there.

190 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:25:15pm

re: #185 ProLifeLiberal

I would have too.

The man's an undeniable douchebag. Obama's comment on that was apt.

"He's a jackass." were Obama's words.

191 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:25:26pm

re: #185 ProLifeLiberal

I would have too.

The man's an undeniable douchebag. Obama's comment on that was apt.

What did Obama say, I missed that part.

192 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:25:49pm

re: #189 Mr Pancakes

Hell, I would have liked to see Obama kick Kanye's ass. Let's fuse the 2 great ideas together! :)

193 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:25:56pm

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

Now that I would have liked to see. Kanye is a worthy entertainer, but when he speaks off the cuff he truly has a gift for saying things he shouldn't.

When he heard that he said he was trashing all his Def Leppard albums. I could probably find the link but I'm lazy.

194 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:26:17pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

"He's a jackass." were Obama's words.

We are having some sort of weird connect/disconnect thing going tonite.

We are thinking in sync, but posting out of sync.

195 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:26:26pm

re: #186 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Sounded to me like one line whine about why people are paying attention to this story, instead of to more "important" ones. While at the same time trying to downplay hacking as something that "everybody" is having done to them, so why is this some big shock? You can practically taste the desperation.

As I said earlier, I'd rather they went back to ignoring it. This pathetic whining is repulsive.

196 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:26:28pm

Music. Well, I have a small CD collection that includes Del McCoury, Hank Williams, Garbage, Ramones, Jimi Hendrix, Bill Monroe, Mountain, Buena Vista Social Club, Glenn Miller, Bob Dylan, Dwight Yoakum, Allman Brothers, Celia Cruz, Maraca, Asleep at the Wheel, Sex Pistols, Shakira... Tapes are too many to mention. Police, Sisters of Mercy, Dixie Dregs, Dregs, Al DiMeola, Pat Metheny, Peter Murphy...

197 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:26:58pm

re: #192 ProLifeLiberal

Hell, I would have liked to see Obama kick Kanye's ass. Let's fuse the 2 great ideas together! :)

Hope and Change and kick ass!

198 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:27:08pm

re: #191 ggt

He called Kanye West a Jackass after interrupting Taylor Swift's award acceptance speech a couple years back.

Which is the least controversial thing he has done all term.

199 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:27:23pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Music. Well, I have a small CD collection that includes Del McCoury, Hank Williams, Garbage, Ramones, Jimi Hendrix, Bill Monroe, Mountain, Buena Vista Social Club, Glenn Miller, Bob Dylan, Dwight Yoakum, Allman Brothers, Celia Cruz, Maraca, Asleep at the Wheel, Sex Pistols, Shakira... Tapes are too many to mention. Police, Sisters of Mercy, Dixie Dregs, Dregs, Al DiMeola, Pat Metheny, Peter Murphy...

Ramones, I don't have the albumn, but I loved the movie.

"rock, rock, rock, Rock n' Roll High School"

200 stevemcg  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:29:31pm

re: #196 Gus 802

I have a great tape collection, but a lot of it I have no idea who's on it. Guy named Rick Allen would bring in his own stuff on the overnight shift. I would put in a tape and record before I went to bed and listen the nest day. A lot of times the tape would run out before he came back on to say what he played. Over a couple of years I figured out most of it, but there are a couple dozen irreplaceable songs that I just can't ID.

201 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:30:11pm

re: #195 JasonA

As I said earlier, I'd rather they went back to ignoring it. This pathetic whining is repulsive.

Don't think that's really an option. You gotta expect that the network's leadership is wondering what all this is gonna mean for them. If Murdoch does end up getting deposed, will News Corp keep the agenda or jettison is and start demanding FNC truly be "fair and balanced"?

202 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:30:23pm

re: #199 ggt

Ramones, I don't have the albumn, but I loved the movie.

"rock, rock, rock, Rock n' Roll High School"

Just saw that movie with my daughter a few months ago....... now she can always identify a Ramones song on the radio.

203 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:32:27pm
204 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:33:01pm

re: #201 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Don't think that's really an option. You gotta expect that the network's leadership is wondering what all this is gonna mean for them. If Murdoch does end up getting deposed, will News Corp keep the agenda or jettison is and start demanding FNC truly be "fair and balanced"?

I doubt it. I can't see anyone changing it up lest they lose viewers and thus advertisers. News Crap must make a mint off of those intellectually brittle dupes.

205 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:33:05pm

re: #201 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Don't think that's really an option. You gotta expect that the network's leadership is wondering what all this is gonna mean for them. If Murdoch does end up getting deposed, will News Corp keep the agenda or jettison is and start demanding FNC truly be "fair and balanced"?

I don't have much hope of Ailes getting tossed. We'll have to wait and see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

206 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:33:24pm

re: #203 ggt

Tragically Hip!

Must be a Canadian thing?

207 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:33:38pm

re: #192 ProLifeLiberal

Hell, I would have liked to see Obama kick Kanye's ass. Let's fuse the 2 great ideas together! :)

Honestly, I think Kanye West would benefit from having some he ticked off kick his ass. A few bruises and maybe a cracked rib might teach him some sense.

Disclaimer: I am being facetious. I do not actually want anyone to to get hurt. Kanye may deserve it, but him getting it would not be a good thing.

208 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:33:39pm

re: #202 Mr Pancakes

Just saw that movie with my daughter a few months ago... now she can always identify a Ramones song on the radio.

My daughter has a strange affinity for Pink Floyd!

209 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:34:37pm

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

Honestly, I think Kanye West would benefit from having some he ticked off kick his ass. A few bruises and maybe a cracked rib might teach him some sense.

Disclaimer: I am being facetious. I do not actually want anyone to to get hurt. Kanye may deserve it, but him getting it would not be a good thing.

I say what DF said without the disclaimer.

210 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:35:13pm

Kanye's not worth it.

211 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:35:42pm

re: #208 SteveMcG

My daughter has a strange affinity for Pink Floyd!

Yea.... that's a tough one for me to get her into ....... she likes the Who.

212 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:36:03pm

There are times when a little whoopass does a body good.

:)

213 Four More Tears  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:36:04pm

re: #211 Mr Pancakes

Yea... that's a tough one for me to get her into ... she likes the Who.

Heh. Just like me.

214 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:36:10pm

re: #204 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I doubt it. I can't see anyone changing it up lest they lose viewers and thus advertisers. News Crap must make a mint off of those intellectually brittle dupes.

re: #205 JasonA

I don't have much hope of Ailes getting tossed. We'll have to wait and see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

Very true. It's still all a bit of a wait and see game, as even if Murdoch gets tossed out on his ass, the investigations may continue. If the allegations of hacking the phones of 9/11 victims families is shown to be even somewhat true, then expect the inquisition to go into full swing.

215 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:36:35pm

re: #209 Mr Pancakes

I say what DF said without the disclaimer.

The Disclaimer was required by forum rules.

216 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:37:07pm

You'd think FOX would be all over the Barnes vs. Indiana decision. Civil Rights advocates that they are . . . . .

217 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:37:56pm

re: #211 Mr Pancakes

I think it was subliminal. She always falls asleep in the car, so as soon as she does, it's out witht the teeny bopper stuff and in with my iPod! She sings along with some other songs too, some Stones, Jethro Tull.

218 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:38:09pm

re: #214 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

re: #205 JasonA

Very true. It's still all a bit of a wait and see game, as even if Murdoch gets tossed out on his ass, the investigations may continue. If the allegations of hacking the phones of 9/11 victims families is shown to be even somewhat true, then expect the inquisition to go into full swing.

Hopefully the criminality did not spread across the pond. But that's ,y hope, your ideas of the good may vary.

Too late for me to keep going. Goodnight, all.

219 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:38:56pm

SteveMQ -you went from lower-case to upper-case.

POOF! just like that!

220 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:39:15pm

re: #214 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

re: #205 JasonA

Very true. It's still all a bit of a wait and see game, as even if Murdoch gets tossed out on his ass, the investigations may continue. If the allegations of hacking the phones of 9/11 victims families is shown to be even somewhat true, then expect the inquisition to go into full swing.

The thing I'm dreading is another round of 9/11 troothers. They were obnoxious enough the first time around.

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:39:30pm

re: #153 ProLifeLiberal

And we have a winner. I said earlier that my taste in music was rather broad.

Never said it was great. :P

You might appreciate this parody then.

222 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:39:32pm

re: #217 SteveMcG

I think it was subliminal. She always falls asleep in the car, so as soon as she does, it's out witht the teeny bopper stuff and in with my iPod! She sings along with some other songs too, some Stones, Jethro Tull.

Subliminal...... she has an Ipod........ hmmmmmm giving me ideas here.

223 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:40:23pm

My internet has become a twit again. So I can't do the good formatting things.

For the lulz, I put in the term "Obama's position on Kanye West" into Google and clicked a news story. This comment one ups what Obama said.

"I object to the President calling Kanye a jackass...that's an insult to jackasses everywhere."

224 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:40:46pm

re: #219 ggt

The username does not seem to be case sensitive. Sometimes I log in quickly and do not use the shift, sometimes I leave the Caps lock on.

225 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:40:59pm

re: #217 SteveMcG

I think it was subliminal. She always falls asleep in the car, so as soon as she does, it's out witht the teeny bopper stuff and in with my iPod! She sings along with some other songs too, some Stones, Jethro Tull.

She likes Sparks, Sweet, and Queen. And she LOVES Gary Puckett.

226 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:41:10pm

re: #224 SteveMcG

The username does not seem to be case sensitive. Sometimes I log in quickly and do not use the shift, sometimes I leave the Caps lock on.

I don't think anyone's user name is . . .

227 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:41:26pm

re: #225 Mr Pancakes

She likes Sparks, Sweet, and Queen. And she LOVES Gary Puckett.

I think all kids like Queen.

228 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:42:14pm

re: #225 Mr Pancakes

And she LOVES Gary Puckett.

Who doesn't!

I love a man with the pipes.

229 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:44:24pm

I loved Queen until they put out The Game. I think Jazz was my favorite Queen album. Looking back on it, each album deems to be better than the previous one. Forget it, I just remembered Queen II

230 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:44:29pm

re: #227 ggt

I think all kids like Queen.

Oh and I forgot...... she took me to see Tom Jones when she was 9.

How many kids love Gary Puckett? Local boy ...... had some great songs in the 60's.

231 jvic  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:44:40pm

re: #182 ggt

Demographics of Crown Point have nothing to do with it?

It was the sheriff of Newton County, which was overwhelmingly white as of the Y2K census.

Where the Bill of Rights is concerned, demographics is irrelevant anyway afaic.

232 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:44:43pm

I complain about Chicagoland (because it's sooo easy). Next to Ohio and Indiana, I think it's probably the only state along the Northern Bank of Ohio River I'd feel I'd like to be.

Ok, It's really Illinois, technically.

233 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:45:07pm

re: #229 SteveMcG

I loved Queen until they put out The Game. I think Jazz was my favorite Queen album. Looking back on it, each album deems to be better than the previous one. Forget it, I just remembered Queen II

I bought The Game on cassette..... recorded over it.

234 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:45:29pm

To ggt:

Everyone likes Queen.

235 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:45:56pm

re: #231 jvic

Where the Bill of Rights is concerned, demographics is irrelevant anyway afaic.

lmao

236 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:46:05pm

re: #229 SteveMcG

I loved Queen until they put out The Game. I think Jazz was my favorite Queen album. Looking back on it, each album deems to be better than the previous one. Forget it, I just remembered Queen II

Ogre Battle

237 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:46:37pm

re: #233 Mr Pancakes

Let my cousin tape it, he changed his mind but I wouldn't take it back.

238 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:46:48pm

re: #180 Mr Pancakes

Dude it's not bad... she's not up to the power, but they give her a stage. Joe Elliot said he would have ...

Yo, Pancakes, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but I just got to say Stinky Beaumont had one of the best posts of all time. OF ALL TIME!

239 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:47:28pm

re: #231 jvic

It was the sheriff of Newton County, which was overwhelmingly white as of the Y2K census.

Where the Bill of Rights is concerned, demographics is irrelevant anyway afaic.

You should make a Page about the case and the Sheriff.

Actually, if there are a distinct minority of non-whites, you can be sure those are the homes that Sheriff would like to "search".

NorthWest Indiana has some perceived racial issues --well, all of Indiana does.

240 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:47:46pm

re: #236 Mr Pancakes

Oddly, the put the lyrics to "Seven Seas of Rhye" on the Queen Album, where it's an instrumental.

241 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:48:02pm

re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth

Yo, Pancakes, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but I just got to say Stinky Beaumont had one of the best posts of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Where's Stinky's post?

242 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:48:52pm

re: #239 ggt

You should make a Page about the case and the Sheriff.

Actually, if there are a distinct minority of non-whites, you can be sure those are the homes that Sheriff would like to "search".

NorthWest Indiana has some perceived racial issues --well, all of Indiana does.

They have a super nasty Klan history.

243 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:49:48pm

re: #242 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They have a super nasty Klan history.

Well, now that the hispanic population is increasing, you can just imagine the reaction. . . .

244 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:50:01pm

(*&@$%*& AT&T. Now I lost my momentum.

245 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:50:19pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Music. Well, I have a small CD collection that includes Del McCoury, Hank Williams, Garbage, Ramones, Jimi Hendrix, Bill Monroe, Mountain, Buena Vista Social Club, Glenn Miller, Bob Dylan, Dwight Yoakum, Allman Brothers, Celia Cruz, Maraca, Asleep at the Wheel, Sex Pistols, Shakira... Tapes are too many to mention. Police, Sisters of Mercy, Dixie Dregs, Dregs, Al DiMeola, Pat Metheny, Peter Murphy...

And you listen to all of that ironically, don't you? Fuckin' hipster.

246 Bubblehead II  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:50:22pm

Night Lizards.re: #241 Mr Pancakes

Where's Stinky's post?

It's the one you don't see coming. :-)

247 SteveMcG  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:50:24pm

I'm waiting for Shorty's trombone solo.

248 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:51:38pm

re: #241 Mr Pancakes

Where's Stinky's post?

Bah! I had to use some Lizard's name there, so I picked The Cleaner.

249 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:53:10pm

re: #248 Slumbering Behemoth

Bah! I had to use some Lizard's name there, so I picked The Cleaner.

Harvey Keitel?

250 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:53:14pm

re: #242 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They have a super nasty Klan history.

Drove thru Gary the other day--reminded me of Detroit in the '70's.

Sad, so sad.

251 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:53:49pm

re: #223 ProLifeLiberal

My internet has become a twit again. So I can't do the good formatting things.

Your gawt damn XBox broke the internet!
/

252 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:54:00pm

re: #249 Mr Pancakes

Harvey Keitel?

THAT'S who Stinky is? I always knew he was using an alias.

253 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:54:38pm

re: #249 Mr Pancakes

Harvey Keitel?

Like that, but faster and more efficient.

254 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:54:38pm

re: #250 ggt

Drove thru Gary the other day--reminded me of Detroit in the '70's.

Sad, so sad.

I drove through Gary...... looked like a vibrant community.

255 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:55:01pm

re: #243 ggt

Well, now that the hispanic population is increasing, you can just imagine the reaction. . . .

Shall I say the "permanent" hispanic population. There has always been a seasonal migrant worker population. . . ..

256 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:55:48pm

re: #254 Mr Pancakes

I drove through Gary... looked like a vibrant community.

When and what part of Gary?

257 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:55:54pm

re: #243 ggt

Well, now that the hispanic population is increasing, you can just imagine the reaction. . . .

Been in that situation. They (the reaction) are filthy people.

258 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:56:13pm

re: #256 ggt

When and what part of Gary?

1964....... some freeway.

259 jvic  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:56:15pm

re: #235 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

231 jvic

Where the Bill of Rights is concerned, demographics is irrelevant anyway afaic.

lmao

Maybe you can stop laughing long enough to tell me where the Bill of Rights mentions demographics.

260 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:56:23pm

re: #257 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Been in that situation. They (the reaction) are filthy people.

YEah, and I'm related to some of them.

261 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:56:58pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

You might appreciate this parody then.

[Video]

What? No one liked that?

I thought it was funny as hell. And, disturbingly, kind of sexy.

262 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:58:38pm

re: #258 Mr Pancakes

1964... some freeway.

That was then . . . This is now.

There are a core group of residents who stay, raise their kids and try to make Gary a livable city again. Perhaps in another generation, if they can find decent leadership.

263 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 10:59:24pm

re: #259 jvic

lmao

Maybe you can stop laughing long enough to tell me where the Bill of Rights mentions demographics.

Oh my such indignation. When you can point out to me where the Bill of Rights stopped the smallpox blankets, Removals, wars, reservations, alien land laws, internments and relocations, then maybe you can take a load off and laugh along with me.

264 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:00:31pm

re: #262 ggt

That was then . . . This is now.

There are a core group of residents who stay, raise their kids and try to make Gary a livable city again. Perhaps in another generation, if they can find decent leadership.

ggt...... I was just joking..... my humor can be dry, and understandably under appreciated.

265 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:01:35pm

re: #262 ggt

That was then . . . This is now.

There are a core group of residents who stay, raise their kids and try to make Gary a livable city again. Perhaps in another generation, if they can find decent leadership.

Company town. Now where's the company.

266 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:01:46pm

re: #250 ggt

Drove thru Gary the other day--reminded me of Detroit in the '70's.

Sad, so sad.

Suddenly I started thinking about China.

267 Fozzie Bear  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:02:15pm

re: #81 reine.de.tout

I read an article a day or two ago about the jurors in that case. Apparently, when the verdict was read, they couldn't look at Casey because they didn't want to see her glee at the verdict. It seems they believe she's in some way involved in Caylee's death - but the bottom line was that the prosecution did not do its job of proving what that involvement was.

The jury should be commended for doing their duty despite their personal feelings rather than publicly condemned by opportunistic whores like... Well.. pretty much every fox 'journalist'. It's a shame. With every propaganda piece Fox runs, a certain segment of the population becomes ever more dangerously stupid, and increasingly a threat to our democracy.

All these right wing nutbags in congress didn't come from nowhere. Fox created the atmosphere of breathtaking ignorance that has made their elections possible.

268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:04:19pm

re: #260 ggt

YEah, and I'm related to some of them.

The one's I'm talking about are in CA. These days, they are keeping themselves busy trying to secede. rotfl

269 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:04:52pm

Glenn Beck University!

Fail.

270 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:05:50pm

So what happened to Glenn Beck's "100-Year Plan"?

LOL

271 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:06:13pm

re: #265 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Company town. Now where's the company.

Where are the professionals and celebrities that claim Gary as their roots? Up and left because they could. Leaving those that couldn't or those that saw an opportunity to rape the city and it's people.

Other cities in the area suffered from the loss of industry, but none is like Gary.

A good friend of mine still has a lot of family in Gary, they stay, trying to keep it going.

I think the "proximity" to Gary is a lot of the impetus for the Newton County Sheriff. We all know what the residents of that county fear . . . . .

272 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:06:28pm

Ice! I see you.

273 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:06:33pm

re: #267 Fozzie Bear

I have successfully, though not entirely purposefully, missed all the news media revolving around this case. I am happily ignorant.

274 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:06:42pm

re: #270 Gus 802

So what happened to Glenn Beck's "100-Year Plan"?

LOL

1. BuY GoLd!
2. ????
3. PROFIT!

275 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:06:47pm

re: #267 Fozzie Bear

The jury should be commended for doing their duty despite their personal feelings rather than publicly condemned by opportunistic whores like... Well.. pretty much every fox 'journalist'.

It seems to me that the jury did their job.

Phyllis Chesler has a piece up (at Fox no less), about the way we respond to these cases when it's women, as opposed to men to kill their children.

I'm absolutely convinced that the mother in that case was guilty, but the law is the law, and a jury does not exist for society to take out their impulses for revenge through them.

276 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:07:17pm

re: #268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The one's I'm talking about are in CA. These days, they are keeping themselves busy trying to secede. rotfl

Just when you think they couldn't get any dumber...

277 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:07:47pm

re: #270 Gus 802

So what happened to Glenn Beck's "100-Year Plan"?

LOL

You know its entirely possible that Glenn Beck has some genuine mental illness that is creating these illusions of grandeur. Was it the Catholic church that he claimed understood 'what he was here for'? I cant really laugh at the guy because its sad or troubling in so many dimensions.

278 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:07:57pm

re: #274 iceweasel

1. BuY GoLd!
2. ???
3. PROFIT!

Puppets! Puppets damn it!

And Soros. [Catches breath.] George Soros and Alinsky!

Oh. My. Fucking. God! I'm going Beck crazy!

LOL

//

279 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:08:07pm

re: #275 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems to me that the jury did their job.

Phyllis Chesler has a piece up (at Fox no less), about the way we respond to these cases when it's women, as opposed to men to kill their children.

I'm absolutely convinced that the mother in that case was guilty, but the law is the law, and a jury does not exist for society to take out their impulses for revenge through them.

Remember Susan Smith? I was in a room full of people who actually sobbed when she didn't get the death penalty.

280 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:08:09pm

re: #272 Gus 802

Ice! I see you.

Hey Gus! I just got up and am thinking about going back to bed. How's everyone here?

281 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:09:01pm

re: #275 SanFranciscoZionist

It seems to me that the jury did their job.

Phyllis Chesler has a piece up (at Fox no less), about the way we respond to these cases when it's women, as opposed to men to kill their children.

I'm absolutely convinced that the mother in that case was guilty, but the law is the law, and a jury does not exist for society to take out their impulses for revenge through them.

And I have to say that sometimes it's hilarious what strange bedfellows politics make.

282 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:09:02pm

re: #55 jvic

Four preliminaries: That said, I am concerned that governments here and abroad will use this scandal as a pretext to restrict the media.

One can call it "restricting the media", one can also call it "making the media resposnsible for its words and actions".

And Resposnsibility is what True Conservatives (TM) are all about, isn't it?

283 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:10:48pm

The world is changing faster than some people can keep up. Those than can't handle it are now "conservative".

284 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:11:18pm

re: #280 iceweasel

Hey Gus! I just got up and am thinking about going back to bed. How's everyone here?

Hey Iceweasel. Doing OK. Pretty quiet here for the past few days. Got much cooler too which is nice. Makes it easier to work. How's things across the pond?

My connection is acting up. Grrrrrr.

285 Fozzie Bear  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:12:18pm

re: #278 Gus 802

Puppets! Puppets damn it!

And Soros. [Catches breath.] George Soros and Alinsky!

Oh. My. Fucking. God! I'm going Beck crazy!

LOL

//

Imo, George Soros should wait a week or two while NewsCorp's share price slides into the toilet, and then, in an act of truly epic irony, buy out NewsCorp. I would probably need to be hospitalized due to uncontrollable paroxisms of laughter, but it would totally be worth it.

286 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:12:50pm

Fox News most read:

President Obama Doesn't Know the First Thing About Economics

Were the First Ten Years of the 21st Century Really the Worst In American History?

Do You Believe the White House Claim About the Aug. 2 Debt-Ceiling Deadline?

Seven Myths About the Looming Debt-Ceiling 'Disaster'

America Is Too Dumb to Know Obama Is Always Right

Lots of Murdoch coverage, I see. //

287 jvic  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:12:56pm

re: #263 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh my such indignation. When you can point out to me where the Bill of Rights stopped the smallpox blankets, Removals, wars, reservations, alien land laws, internments and relocations, then maybe you can take a load off and laugh along with me.

IMO the probability is rising that those days are returning--with 21st century technology this time. The probability is still small, but it is creeping up.

No matter which side I'd be enrolled in, I don't think that's funny at all.

288 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:14:16pm

re: #284 Gus 802

Hey Iceweasel. Doing OK. Pretty quiet here for the past few days. Got much cooler too which is nice. Makes it easier to work. How's things across the pond?

My connection is acting up. Grrr.

Damn AT&T! grrr.
I'm glad it's cooler!
Right now it's sunny here, but then it always seems to be early in the day. I'm contemplating a supermarket run but I think sleep will win out.

289 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:14:27pm

re: #271 ggt

Where are the professionals and celebrities that claim Gary as their roots?

The only ones who come to mind are the Jacksons.

Up and left because they could. Leaving those that couldn't or those that saw an opportunity to rape the city and it's people.

Other cities in the area suffered from the loss of industry, but none is like Gary.

A good friend of mine still has a lot of family in Gary, they stay, trying to keep it going.

I think the "proximity" to Gary is a lot of the impetus for the Newton County Sheriff. We all know what the residents of that county fear . . .

My parents are exactly that demographic that left a city very much like Gary. The options for Black professionals in the 60s were extremely limited whether they stayed in segregation or came west to the Promised Land 9_9.

They were under pressures that their peers weren't, somehow expected to integrate hostile neighborhoods and workplaces, then also prop up the place they left on middle class salaries (when not in grad school.) Ideally, would have been nice. In reality, no.

290 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:14:34pm

re: #280 iceweasel

Hey Gus! I just got up and am thinking about going back to bed. How's everyone here?

Go back to bed. Seriously you're not going to find yourself eleventy years from now, lying on your death bed, wishing you had slept just a little less.

Well, if you're lazy like me, you won't.

291 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:15:40pm

re: #286 iceweasel

Fox News most read:

Lots of Murdoch coverage, I see. //

Just think. It'll be fun to watch Cantor and his ilk eat crow. That's what's going to happen in the end. Mitch McConnell will work up some compromise in the Senate with Harry Reid. Boehner will need to grow a pair. As usual no one will touch Social Security which is cool with me. The debt ceiling will rise with some spending cuts and instead of tax hikes I'm predicting and end to many tax write offs. Etc. Etc.

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:15:50pm

re: #284 Gus 802

My connection is acting up. Grrr.

PLL's XBox broke the internet.

293 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:16:59pm

re: #290 Slumbering Behemoth

Go back to bed. Seriously you're not going to find yourself eleventy years from now, lying on your death bed, wishing you had slept just a little less.

Well, if you're lazy like me, you won't.

I support this message.

Bed it is-- BBL. Have a good one, everyone!

294 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:17:09pm

re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth

PLL's XBox broke the internet.

Your Xbox broke my TV!

See. I was lurking before. ;)

295 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:17:16pm

re: #289 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin


I grew up in Gary until I was 17. My mom ws a poor widow living on Social Security (after US Steel screwed her out of her widow's pension) so we had to stick around and become a minority in a mostly black/Latino neighborhood.

East Gary, Indiana changed its name back to Lake Station to try and avoid any association with the place.

296 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:17:30pm

re: #290 Slumbering Behemoth

Go back to bed. Seriously you're not going to find yourself eleventy years from now, lying on your death bed, wishing you had slept just a little less.

Well, if you're lazy like me, you won't.

Yeah but you are be nature defined by your sleep. Us mortals on the other hand...

297 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:18:05pm

re: #287 jvic

IMO the probability is rising that those days are returning--with 21st century technology this time. The probability is still small, but it is creeping up.

No matter which side I'd be enrolled in, I don't think that's funny at all.

The question will be, what will you do to make sure it never happens. No need to answer, but do be aware that we will never let the majority go back to that shyt again.

298 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:18:05pm

re: #293 iceweasel

I support this message.

Bed it is-- BBL. Have a good one, everyone!

Be that way! No more old times! Show me your tax returns! I demand to see Jimmah's tax returns! LOL

Later Ice. ;)

299 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:18:19pm

re: #283 ggt

The world is changing faster than some people can keep up. Those than can't handle it are now "conservative".

Of the dinosaur variety, anyway. I lean conservative on many issues, and the world isn't changing fast enough for my liking.

I want my nanite augmentations, and I want them now DAMN IT!

300 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:18:51pm

re: #293 iceweasel

I support this message.

Bed it is-- BBL. Have a good one, everyone!

Yeah Team Lazy!!!

301 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:19:09pm

re: #289 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The only ones who come to mind are the Jacksons.

My parents are exactly that demographic that left a city very much like Gary. The options for Black professionals in the 60s were extremely limited whether they stayed in segregation or came west to the Promised Land 9_9.

They were under pressures that their peers weren't, somehow expected to integrate hostile neighborhoods and workplaces, then also prop up the place they left on middle class salaries (when not in grad school.) Ideally, would have been nice. In reality, no.

The whole situation then and now sucks.

I saw one segment on C-SPAN years ago that blamed the lack of professionals in the "neighborhood" for it's decline. During segregation--doctors, lawyers and other professionals in the black community had to stay in the neighborhood--giving the kids in the area real and good rolemodels. When the professionals could leave for better neighborhoods--they did and the only role models left were not good.

There are a whole lot of factors, but I had never been exposed to that one before. It makes a lot of sense.

302 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:19:29pm

Whew. And that had to have been one of the weirdest mornings ever on LGF. Not this one but the one I alluded to.

303 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:20:18pm

re: #296 Alexzander

Yeah but you are be nature defined by your sleep. Us mortals on the other hand...

True. I am biased.

304 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:20:21pm

re: #295 ralphieboy

I grew up in Gary until I was 17. My mom ws a poor widow living on Social Security (after US Steel screwed her out of her widow's pension) so we had to stick around and become a minority in a mostly black/Latino neighborhood.

East Gary, Indiana changed its name back to Lake Station to try and avoid any association with the place.

And Miller Beach. I have friends that live there. If they want a plumber or a pizza delivery they have to say "miller beach" and not Gary if they want anyone to come.

305 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:22:10pm

re: #291 Gus 802

Just think. It'll be fun to watch Cantor and his ilk eat crow. That's what's going to happen in the end. Mitch McConnell will work up some compromise in the Senate with Harry Reid. Boehner will need to grow a pair. As usual no one will touch Social Security which is cool with me. The debt ceiling will rise with some spending cuts and instead of tax hikes I'm predicting and end to many tax write offs. Etc. Etc.

You wouldn't believe that by reading the headlines the last couple days. Two I read today basically said the same thing, but the second went further. Both agreed that the GOP's latest gamble, namely their "Cut, Cap, & Balance" bill is likely to fail in the Senate. But supposedly McConnell's Hail Mary plan to give the president the authority to raise the debt between now and next November is getting serious discussion.

At this point, I think the GOP's pretty spooked at what an Aug 2nd with no deal is going to look like for them, but are trying to drag this all out til the 11th hour, in the hopes of saving some sort of face with the Tea Party base. The "Hey, at least I tried!" defense.

306 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:22:24pm

5G sucks. I want to listen to The Dubliners on Youtube.

307 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:23:09pm

re: #306 Gus 802

5G sucks. I want to listen to The Dubliners on Youtube.

We are up to 5G? Geez, I thought I was behind the times with my 3G iPhone.

308 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:23:16pm

re: #295 ralphieboy

I grew up in Gary until I was 17. My mom ws a poor widow living on Social Security (after US Steel screwed her out of her widow's pension) so we had to stick around and become a minority in a mostly black/Latino neighborhood.

East Gary, Indiana changed its name back to Lake Station to try and avoid any association with the place.

Yeah but see, you know better.

The first bold part is why I asked earlier what happened to the company. Company towns, ugh.

Sometimes I think some of these asswagons won't be satisfied until they get company towns, company unions, and straight up sharecropping back as the basis for the US economy.

309 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:24:35pm

re: #307 ggt

We are up to 5G? Geez, I thought I was behind the times with my 3G iPhone.

Yep. And that's 50 bucks a month. If you go over it's 5 cents per meg. Which means 50 bucks for another 1G. Nice aye?

310 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:25:53pm

re: #309 Gus 802

Yep. And that's 50 bucks a month. If you go over it's 5 cents per meg. Which means 50 bucks for another 1G. Nice aye?

Yeah, a kinder, gentler form of mugging you.

/

311 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:26:09pm

Gary Indiana:

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

312 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:28:43pm

re: #310 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, a kinder, gentler form of mugging you.

/

Yep. And you get to use a crappy Sierra Wireless modem. Damn thing is a piece of junk. Unstable. Gave me a BSD several times early on. Had to put it in modem mode. Then these bastard, AT&T, throttle their connections for people during peak hours. Everything is for profit so of course they don't invest in infrastructure. It's the American way. Apparently. Oh well. Fook 'em. This is temporary. But they all suck. Earthlink sucks major balls. Comcast are a bunch of pricks.

Drink!

313 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:29:39pm

Now Google+ might kill Facebook. LOL

314 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:30:01pm

I have to sleep all.

Have a great morning!

315 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:30:23pm

Just like I predicted. Facebook will be "gone tomorrow" pretty soon here. Just like MySpace.

One hit wonders of the internet world. Comcast is next.

316 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:30:26pm

re: #308 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin


My mom later found out about a class action suit against US Steel Corp. and received a settlement on her pension, but it was a patch on what was owed to her and did not replace the money we needed in 1967.

Growing up there gave a unique cultural and social education, taught me a lot about race relations beyond complaining about people who live on the other side of the tracks.

And it taught me a lot about how far we should trust the Captains of American industry to look out for our interests.

And had it not been for FDR and his Social Security system, we woulda been tossed out on the street.

317 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:32:01pm

re: #301 ggt

The whole situation then and now sucks.

I saw one segment on C-SPAN years ago that blamed the lack of professionals in the "neighborhood" for it's decline. During segregation--doctors, lawyers and other professionals in the black community had to stay in the neighborhood--giving the kids in the area real and good rolemodels. When the professionals could leave for better neighborhoods--they did and the only role models left were not good.

There are a whole lot of factors, but I had never been exposed to that one before. It makes a lot of sense.

That's part of the story. But there are still plenty of role models in those parts of town because those parts of town are still de facto segregated. Doesn't matter what city you go to in the country, the patterns are still intact -- some from the 1800s, some from the 1900s, some from the war, some from postwar....you mentioned something similar upthread, earlier.

In fact, we in the suburbs spent our free time (for my parents it was church- and family-related) in the urban areas. It's not like white and other communities that try and distance themselves from their roots. That's not a part of the ethic. We have much different assimilation patterns.

318 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:32:18pm

re: #315 Gus 802

Just like I predicted. Facebook will be "gone tomorrow" pretty soon here. Just like MySpace.

One hit wonders of the internet world. Comcast is next.

Nah, not gone, simply rendered "obsolete." Nothing is ever truly gone on the Internet, no matter how much we may wish it were so. Found that out the other day when I spent a few hours digging through the sediment to find a couple sites I hadn't thought about in years.

319 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:33:17pm

re: #312 Gus 802

Earthlink sucks major balls.

Now that's a name I haven't heard in a billion years. Like, "Oh wow, dude. You got one of those new 56.6k modems? That's fuckin' fast" years.

I had no idea they were still around.

320 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:34:42pm

re: #316 ralphieboy

Had Medicare kicked in by then? I hope so.

321 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:35:07pm

re: #318 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nah, not gone, simply rendered "obsolete." Nothing is ever truly gone on the Internet, no matter how much we may wish it were so. Found that out the other day when I spent a few hours digging through the sediment to find a couple sites I hadn't thought about in years.

Oh yeah. That. Was thinking about that a couple of days ago. No not gone totally. But it's just vestiges. 30 years from now it will be gone save for special access. Eventually most of the stuff we type and post will be archived in some obscure location. It won't be that easy to access. Just like most photography will be lost IMO. It's not permanent like the analog world of negatives and the printed word. It really is temporary despite what they say.

322 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:36:24pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth

Now that's a name I haven't heard in a billion years. Like, "Oh wow, dude. You got one of those new 56.6k modems? That's fuckin' fast" years.

I had no idea they were still around.

Oh yeah they're still around. They have DSL, Cable and Wireless. Their call centers are in Bangalore or somewhere in India. Not a very personable company. I was with them for 10 years and they're still acting like douche bags. Fuck 'em.

323 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:38:20pm

And I'll repeat what I might have said the other day. All this talk about computers. Fine. But the greatest music to date was still written by hand. The greatest literature to date was written by hand. The greatest art was painted by hand. And so on.

324 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:39:56pm

re: #319 Slumbering Behemoth

Now that's a name I haven't heard in a billion years. Like, "Oh wow, dude. You got one of those new 56.6k modems? That's fuckin' fast" years.

I had no idea they were still around.

Ah, 56K, such memories. Remember the blazing speed of walking away in the morning while downloading a 10meg file and comes home with another 20% to go. I feel a special kind of pity for folks out in the internet boonies who are still relying on dial-ups because the "free market" is still dragging its heels with regards to broadband.

Reminds me of the shock I got when I went back to visit my mother's family for the July 4th weekend. I actually saw places in town advertising "free wifi" for the first time. Mind you, this is a place that, half a decade ago, was thrilled that DSL was becoming available.

325 jvic  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:40:24pm

re: #239 ggt

You should make a Page about the case and the Sheriff.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll think about it, but the decision is two months old. There may have been developments I'm not aware of.

326 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:42:27pm

re: #322 Gus 802

I once called a help desk to get an home internet connection up and running. I was bitching about the 105 temps in my area, when the help gal on the other side said it was something like 120 where she was.

I asked where the hell she was, and she said Delhi.

"As in 'India'?" I ask.

"Yes." she says.

I was floored, 'cuz she spoke better "American" english than most Americans in my area.

327 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:42:27pm

re: #323 Gus 802

And I'll repeat what I might have said the other day. All this talk about computers. Fine. But the greatest music to date was still written by hand. The greatest literature to date was written by hand. The greatest art was painted by hand. And so on.

Yeah, but even all that was made with materials and tools that the previous greats could only dream of. Not saying that computers will replace the old ways entirely, but instead simply give folks who previously would have toiled away in obscurity a new wider audience and a chance to win that 15 minutes of fame.

328 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:44:22pm

re: #327 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, but even all that was made with materials and tools that the previous greats could only dream of. Not saying that computers will replace the old ways entirely, but instead simply give folks who previously would have toiled away in obscurity a new wider audience and a chance to win that 15 minutes of fame.

That's the problem. I never cared for the "balloon boys" of the world.

//

329 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:44:33pm

re: #324 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Ah, 56K, such memories. Remember the blazing speed of walking away in the morning while downloading a 10meg file and comes home with another 20% to go. I feel a special kind of pity for folks out in the internet boonies who are still relying on dial-ups because the "free market" is still dragging its heels with regards to broadband.

Reminds me of the shock I got when I went back to visit my mother's family for the July 4th weekend. I actually saw places in town advertising "free wifi" for the first time. Mind you, this is a place that, half a decade ago, was thrilled that DSL was becoming available.

I remember the fun of being in the middle of downloading something, then hearing the phone ring and going into a panic because it meant my crappy dialup just disconnected.

330 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:46:55pm

re: #320 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Had Medicare kicked in by then? I hope so.


I seem to remember that we were covered by Blue Cross and Blue Shield.

331 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:47:26pm

re: #323 Gus 802

And history has known no greater locomotive force than the buggy whip.
/

332 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:47:53pm

There are so many things I could disagree with Gus 802 on right now but I'm not sure I have the energy.

333 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:48:55pm

re: #331 Slumbering Behemoth

And history has known no greater locomotive force than the buggy whip.
/

All the best journeys were taken on the back of horse!!

334 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:49:14pm

re: #332 Alexzander

There are so many things I could disagree with Gus 802 on right now but I'm not sure I have the energy.

Well. I wasn't born to this world to make everybody happy now was I.

335 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:49:51pm

re: #329 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I remember the fun of being in the middle of downloading something, then hearing the phone ring and going into a panic because it meant my crappy dialup just disconnected.

My favorite was the sites that would half load before the computer said "Frak it" and gave up. Or trying to play any kind of online game during peak hours. Email attachments that took so long to upload, you hit the "Send" button and then went to make coffee.

Here I am, 27 yrs old, and already I feel like an old man. "When I was your age, my data walked 15 miles, uphill both ways, just to show me a half-naked chick before my connection died."

336 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:49:58pm

re: #332 Alexzander

There are so many things I could disagree with Gus 802 on right now but I'm not sure I have the energy.

Ditto. But I upding him anyway. I have a Gus-Crush. I'm so ashamed.
/

337 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:51:02pm

re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth

Ditto. But I upding him anyway. I have a Gus-Crush. I'm so ashamed.
/

That's only because I drink Jim Beam and watch John Wayne movies while having a knowledge of what the color taupe looks like.

//

338 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:51:44pm

re: #334 Gus 802

Well. I wasn't born to this world to make everybody happy now was I.

I definitely respect that.

339 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:52:27pm

re: #338 Alexzander

I definitely respect that.

Wait a couple of hours and I'll say something that contradicts what I said this evening.

//

340 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:53:39pm

re: #337 Gus 802

That's only because I drink Jim Beam and watch John Wayne movies while having a knowledge of what the color taupe looks like.

//

Such knowledge cannot coexist in the same brain

341 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:54:02pm

re: #337 Gus 802

That's only because I drink Jim Beam and watch John Wayne movies while having a knowledge of what the color taupe looks like.

//

I had to google the colour taupe (there goes my British/Canadian spelling).

JP and JW sound good right now. I'm drinking cheap box wine - comes to about 2.5 a bottle (10 for 4 littres).

342 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:54:16pm

re: #337 Gus 802

I've dabbled in a variety of artistic media, but could never get the hang of "Illustrator" type software programs.

I stand in awe and admiration of those who can use such software to create beautiful art.

343 Targetpractice  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:55:13pm

re: #340 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Such knowledge cannot coexist in the same brain

How do we know that Gus isn't really some hyper-intelligent AI construct, composed of personality snippets of the greatest LGF users? He might, at this very moment, be truly contemplating the end of all mutated life in the Capital Wasteland as we speak...

Wait, I'm getting Gus confused with President Eden again.

//

344 Gus  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:57:14pm

re: #342 Slumbering Behemoth

I've dabbled in a variety of artistic media, but could never get the hang of "Illustrator" type software programs.

I stand in awe and admiration of those who can use such software to create beautiful art.

I know Autocad, Photoshop, and Sketchup. I'm actually very adept at the chit. ;) Never got into coding though. Too boring. For me that is.

345 Alexzander  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:57:25pm

re: #343 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

How do we know that Gus isn't really some hyper-intelligent AI construct, composed of personality snippets of the greatest LGF users? He might, at this very moment, be truly contemplating the end of all mutated life in the Capital Wasteland as we speak...

Wait, I'm getting Gus confused with President Eden again.

//

While this is a legitmate concern, I think that his apprecaition for Jim Bean and John Wayne make him quintessentially (American style) human.

... hmmm .....

I suppose that would actually be the perfect cover for a hyper-intelligent AI construct?

SHIT

346 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:57:28pm

re: #343 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Nah. Gus is The Master, aka Richard Grey, aka Richard Moreau.

347 Kragar  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:57:36pm

re: #343 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

How do we know that Gus isn't really some hyper-intelligent AI construct, composed of personality snippets of the greatest LGF users? He might, at this very moment, be truly contemplating the end of all mutated life in the Capital Wasteland as we speak...

Wait, I'm getting Gus confused with President Eden again.

//

A common mistake.

I think he's an industrialist who is in a self contained hyperbaric chamber, safely ensconced in a Las Vegas casino.

348 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:59:11pm

re: #336 Slumbering Behemoth

Ditto. But I upding him anyway. I have a Gus-Crush. I'm so ashamed.
/

Everybody has a Gus-Crush.

349 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Jul 17, 2011 11:59:37pm

re: #344 Gus 802

Program coding = lots of money, lots of hours, very little life.

350 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:00:56am

Was it Gus that we were doing all the movie titles with the other night? I was pretty drunk at the time I think...

No Country for Old Gus

351 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:01:38am

Someone is playing David Lynch style saxophone on the street outside my apartment right now.. its midnight.

352 Kragar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:02:04am

re: #350 Alexzander

Was it Gus that we were doing all the movie titles with the other night? I was pretty drunk at the time I think...

No Country for Old Gus

Gus, Food, and Lodging

353 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:02:30am

re: #330 ralphieboy

I seem to remember that we were covered by Blue Cross and Blue Shield.

Yeah, the q. was none of my business really. I was going by the years. Thing is, your guys' story with US Steel happened so early. There are people who will blame the pensions and blame the unions for what happened to Gary (or Detroit or Buffalo or or or) but never talk about the companies packing up shop and moving elsewhere.

They know so much. Any excuse to blame the people who do the actual work.

354 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:02:38am

Noooooooooooooo!

:)

355 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:02:59am

re: #348 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Step One: Admit that you have a problem, and are powerless over your addiction.

Step Two: Come to believe that a Power greater than Gus could restore us to sanity.

/SERENITY NOW!!!

356 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:03:32am

re: #350 Alexzander

Was it Gus that we were doing all the movie titles with the other night? I was pretty drunk at the time I think...

No Country for Old Gus

The Big Leguski

357 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:03:44am

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

Step One: Admit that you have a problem, and are powerless over your addiction.

Step Two: Come to believe that a Power greater than Gus could restore us to sanity.

/SERENITY NOW!!!

Haven't you forgotten something?

Gravel.

//

358 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:03:53am

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

Step One: Admit that you have a problem, and are powerless over your addiction.

Step Two: Come to believe that a Power greater than Gus could restore us to sanity.

/SERENITY NOW!!!

What, we've gone from Gravel worship to Gus worship? What kinda whacked out cult did I join here?!

//

359 jvic  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:04:25am

re: #297 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The question will be, what will you do to make sure it never happens. No need to answer, but do be aware that we will never let the majority go back to that shyt again.

In my teens and twenties I never questioned the permanence of the categories by which I viewed the world.

Young is the blood that yonder
Succeeds to rick and fold,
Fresh are the form and favour
And new the minted mould:
The thoughts are old.

360 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:04:32am

re: #351 Alexzander

Someone is playing David Lynch style saxophone on the street outside my apartment right now.. its midnight.

Are you on meth? Acid?

That kind of "surreal, but actually real" shit only every happened to me when I was on meth or acid.

361 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:04:43am

re: #347 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A common mistake.

I think he's an industrialist who is in a self contained hyperbaric chamber, safely ensconced in a Las Vegas casino.

That reminds me, Old World Blues is coming out tomorrow.

362 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:04:48am

re: #358 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What, we've gone from Gravel worship to Gus worship? What kinda whacked out cult did I join here?!

//

See. Watch...

GRAVEL
U
S

Or!

GLENN BECK
U
S

//

363 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:04:56am

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

Step One: Admit that you have a problem, and are powerless over your addiction.

Step Two: Come to believe that a Power greater than Gus could restore us to sanity.

/SERENITY NOW!!!

Gus, grant me the serenity to accept the Gus I cannot change,
Courage to change the Gus I can,
And Gus to know the difference.

364 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:05:00am

Speaking of which,

I have to head out soon to do my evening meditation at the Gravel shrine.

365 Kragar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:05:14am

re: #357 Gus 802

Haven't you forgotten something?

Gravel.

//

GUS FOR THE GUS GOD!!!

Nevermind, doesn't quite work.

366 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:05:46am

re: #357 Gus 802

Haven't you forgotten something?

Gravel.

//

NO! I have forgotten nothing. Gravel is the "Power greater than Gus".

367 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:06:07am

re: #362 Gus 802

See. Watch...

GRAVEL
U
S

Or!

GLENN BECK
U
S

//

It...it makes so much sense. Truly, thou art the son of Gravel!

//

368 Kragar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:06:07am

re: #361 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

That reminds me, Old World Blues is coming out tomorrow.

[Video]

Think I'm going to wait for the next DLC and get them both at once to play thru.

369 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:06:47am

re: #367 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It...it makes so much sense. Truly, thou art the son of Gravel!

//

And it was good.

Damn I need a cigarette.

//

370 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:06:54am

re: #359 jvic

In my teens and twenties I never questioned the permanence of the categories by which I viewed the world.

Young is the blood that yonder
Succeeds to rick and fold,
Fresh are the form and favour
And new the minted mould:
The thoughts are old.

Have you read any Kant?

The Critique of Pure Reason is one of the more profound intellectual projects I've ever engaged in.

371 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:07:14am

re: #368 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Think I'm going to wait for the next DLC and get them both at once to play thru.

Good luck with that. I have absolutely no clue when Lonesome Road is supposed to be out, considering they said Old World Blues would be out last month. Hell, considering how Obsidian's dragging their feet, I may be playing Battlefield 3 by that time.

372 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:07:59am

re: #370 Alexzander

Have you read any Kant?

The Critique of Pure Reason is one of the more profound intellectual projects I've ever engaged in.

Lol I tried to read that in frickin' German.

Didn't go so well. :/

373 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:09:00am

re: #372 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Lol I tried to read that in frickin' German.

Didn't go so well. :/

It is absurdly challenging in one's native language.
Do you study philosophy?

374 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:10:39am

And I propose that the new topics of LGF be dedicated worship of Gus, Gravel and X, rather than international and American political affairs.

x = to be determined. Hopefully a word beginning with 'G.'

375 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:12:20am

GusGarry Gus Ross

376 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:13:53am

re: #374 Alexzander

And I propose that the new topics of LGF be dedicated worship of Gus, Gravel and X, rather than international and American political affairs.

x = to be determined. Hopefully a word beginning with 'G.'

GRINDCORE MOTHER-FUCKER!!!!

377 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:14:47am

re: #373 Alexzander

It is absurdly challenging in one's native language.
Do you study philosophy?

Oh I know. That little endeavor lasted about a week lol.

No, not philosophy, religion. But my mentors were in German Lit and History of Religion. So I got a nice dose of the Friedrichs and the Wilhelms.

378 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:15:37am

re: #377 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Your opinion of Nietzsche?

379 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:16:32am

re: #378 Slumbering Behemoth

Your opinion of Nietzsche?

Nietzsche saved my life.

380 jvic  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:16:43am

re: #370 Alexzander

Have you read any Kant?

The Critique of Pure Reason is one of the more profound intellectual projects I've ever engaged in.

1. I have not. If I did, none of it stuck. (OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin, my late father claimed that reading it in German was essential.)

2. No, when Churchill said that it is no bad thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations, he was talking about me. (Figuratively: I don't actually read books of quotations.)

Though I have the greatest respect and admiration for Housman.

3. If I suddenly, magically became financially independent, Spinoza would be the first priority for the time I allocated to philosophy.

381 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:17:02am

re: #379 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

???

382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:17:23am

Seriously, Beyond Good and Evil is probably my favorite of N's. I took a lot from it re: "forgiveness". TBH, I still am kind of affected by it.

383 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:18:18am

re: #369 Gus 802

Hey, how're you doing?
You can email, if you want to keep it private!

384 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:19:57am

Shit - just saw that I made front page of the stalker blog!!

Hey stalkers!!

I bet your dates on match.com love when you tell them that you spend every night stalking a relatively small blog they've never heard of because you can't get over your ban!
And at least you know that if they can get over that and sleeping in your mothers basement, they love you for who you really are!

Don't worry, scrote. There are plenty of a stalkers out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife was a stalker. She's a pilot now.


(Idiocracy reference.)

385 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:20:10am

re: #373 Alexzander

It is absurdly challenging in one's native language.
Do you study philosophy?

AT&T going out again. That reminds me. One of my clients has a degree in philosophy. BA I think. Anyway. He's a really talented residential designer. Not the greatest draftsman but he really comes up with great stuff. Interior and exterior design wise. Wish I could show some but I have a bunch of crazy wingnut stalkers after my ass.

386 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:20:24am

re: #382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Obsession with Palin? Check.

Reading German philosophers, in German? Check.

Admiration for Nietzsche? Check.

That settles it, you're a "CtE" sock puppet.
///

387 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:20:56am

re: #379 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Nietzsche saved my life.

I have AMOR FATI on the back on my sweater.

388 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:21:28am

re: #353 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

As far as I can tell, they had plundered the pension funds and had nothing left to pay out. They told my mom that she was not eligible because my dad was still working for US Steel when he died, and not a retiree (although he had been there over 30 years).

In other words, he died without his bosses' permission, so he was not eligible.

389 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:21:40am

re: #386 Slumbering Behemoth

Who is Cte?

390 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:22:14am

re: #380 jvic

1. I have not. If I did, none of it stuck. (OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin, my late father claimed that reading it in German was essential.)

Yeah...reading Kant -- I'm REALLY glad he's been translated into English. But it's so complicated in English, it actually ends up making more sense in German. Hard to explain, since my own attempts were massive fails.

Plus my German now SUCKS so unless one keeps it up, it's for naught, unless one is really good at languages.


2. No, when Churchill said that it is no bad thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations, he was talking about me. (Figuratively: I don't actually read books of quotations.)

Though I have the greatest respect and admiration for Housman.

3. If I suddenly, magically became financially independent, Spinoza would be the first priority for the time I allocated to philosophy.

I will have to look into Housman. Spinoza is the man. Love his story, too.

391 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:22:54am

re: #383 Floral Giraffe

Hey, how're you doing?
You can email, if you want to keep it private!

Doing OK. Nothing new to report. Weirdest summer ever. Sister's been behaving. Guess I've helped along that end by adjusting my occasionally brusk self. OK, I'm really not THAT brusk. Still have work though so I can't complain.

392 Henchman Ghazi-808  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:23:04am

Looks like the White House went after Fox News in 2009 after all

As the U.K. phone-hacking scandal continues to engulf News Corp's British segment, one of the company's top-performing assets in the U.S. is enjoying a bit of unrelated vindication.

Preemptive strike. Fox will claim itself the victim and the saint.

393 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:23:53am

re: #390 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I find that German is really great for describing abstract constructs, my big problem is just making myself understood to the folks at the local shops.

English is fine for everyday conversation, which is one of the things that makes it a world language, but relatively hard to grasp in the abstract.

394 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:25:33am

re: #384 Alexzander

Shit - just saw that I made front page of the stalker blog!!

Congrats! I never go there unless they start stinking up my referrers. About a month ago, some buttmunch was over there complaining that my site doesn't allow comments, when it does. He just never returned to see his dumb comment published.

395 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:25:40am

re: #382 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Seriously, Beyond Good and Evil is probably my favorite of N's. I took a lot from it re: "forgiveness". TBH, I still am kind of affected by it.

Huge Nietzche fan here as well. I read Kaufman's portable Nietzsche which put the whole line of thought together.

I'm currently reading a new(ish) translation of Thus Spoke Zarathustra. I read the Kaufman (I think) translation last time.

By far my fav. philosopher. Followups are Wittgenstein, Kant and Spinoza.

396 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:26:38am

re: #384 Alexzander

Shit - just saw that I made front page of the stalker blog!!

Hey stalkers!!

I bet your dates on match.com love when you tell them that you spend every night stalking a relatively small blog they've never heard of because you can't get over your ban!
And at least you know that if they can get over that and sleeping in your mothers basement, they love you for who you really are!

(Idiocracy reference.)

I look at it this way. We complete the stalker's sad little lives. They live their sad little lives vicariously through ours. They'd have nothing if it were not for us. Thus, I'm serving a higher purpose.

//

397 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:26:48am

re: #383 Floral Giraffe

Hey FG

398 jvic  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:26:48am

re: #363 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Gus, grant me the serenity to accept the Gus I cannot change,
Courage to change the Gus I can,
And Gus to know the difference.

You may be amazed before you are halfway through.

Good night, all.

399 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:26:55am

re: #389 Alexzander

Former Lizard, now flounced. Had a hard on for Nietzsche. Claimed that Nietzsche's "Eternal Reccurance", which I mocked, was an argument that bolstered the factual validity of Christ's Resurrection.

Or some such nonsense.

400 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:29:26am

re: #395 Alexzander

Huge Nietzche fan here as well. I read Kaufman's portable Nietzsche which put the whole line of thought together.

I'm currently reading a new(ish) translation of Thus Spoke Zarathustra. I read the Kaufman (I think) translation last time.

By far my fav. philosopher. Followups are Wittgenstein, Kant and Spinoza.

Oh I love Wittgenstein.

Forget about being understood by anybody. Ain't gonna happen.

But that doesn't mean you give up trying, so no excuses.

401 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:29:33am

re: #399 Slumbering Behemoth

Former Lizard, now flounced. Had a hard on for Nietzsche. Claimed that Nietzsche's "Eternal Reccurance", which I mocked, was an argument that bolstered the factual validity of Christ's Resurrection.

Or some such nonsense.

Cato?

402 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:30:10am

re: #396 Gus 802

Praise Gravel, Gus and Grindcore for this insight.

Amen.

403 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:31:00am

re: #399 Slumbering Behemoth

Former Lizard, now flounced. Had a hard on for Nietzsche. Claimed that Nietzsche's "Eternal Reccurance", which I mocked, was an argument that bolstered the factual validity of Christ's Resurrection.

Or some such nonsense.

Mph. A Nietzschean Christian. Too bad I missed that one.

404 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:31:21am

re: #384 Alexzander

Looking there, kills many brain cells.
Just saying!

405 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:31:54am

re: #400 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh I love Wittgenstein.

Forget about being understood by anybody. Ain't gonna happen.

But that doesn't mean you give up trying, so no excuses.

I have a Wittgenstein tattoo.

Hardcore philosophy nerd.
I have the beginnings of a Spinoza one too.

If I ever get a lot of visable tattoos (or find out I have not long to live), I'd get AMOR FATI on my knuckles.

406 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:32:09am

re: #402 Alexzander

Praise Gravel, Gus and Grindcore for this insight.

Amen.

Be grateful. I could have linked G.G. Allen.

407 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:32:28am

re: #397 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Hey FG

Yo!
Your nic makes me laugh every time I see it.
Rock on!

408 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:34:30am

re: #393 ralphieboy

I find that German is really great for describing abstract constructs, my big problem is just making myself understood to the folks at the local shops.

English is fine for everyday conversation, which is one of the things that makes it a world language, but relatively hard to grasp in the abstract.

I never got to the point of being able to think in German, only took regular undergrad German and theological German, but I did get into it. It really does open up your mind for big-picture concepts. If your mind has already been geared for systematic thinking (ironically like mine was in Fundagelicalism), it really gives it a boost.

409 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:34:43am

re: #403 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Mph. A Nietzschean Christian. Too bad I missed that one.

Zizek considers himself a Christian Atheist.

I was actually reading a book called Nietzche and Levinas recently which was a series of academic essays drawing out similarities between the two intellectuals. For those of you who dont know, Emmanuel Levinas was a pretty influential Jewish phenomenologist who was deeply religious.
A Nietzschean Christian sounds like my ideal friend really - close by so far away.

410 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:35:55am

re: #403 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Very little, you missed.

When cornered on something, and left without an intelligent argument, it would resort to pointing out typos or linguistic mistakes.

Well educated, but rather stupid an petty. JMO.

411 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:36:27am

re: #410 Slumbering Behemoth

Very little, you missed.

When cornered on something, and left without an intelligent argument, it would resort to pointing out typos or linguistic mistakes.

Well educated, but rather stupid an petty. JMO.

Oh yeah.

412 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:36:39am

re: #405 Alexzander

I have a Wittgenstein tattoo.

Hardcore philosophy nerd.
I have the beginnings of a Spinoza one too.

If I ever get a lot of visable tattoos (or find out I have not long to live), I'd get AMOR FATI on my knuckles.

This is a Black version of Amor Fati

413 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:39:23am

re: #410 Slumbering Behemoth

Very little, you missed.

When cornered on something, and left without an intelligent argument, it would resort to pointing out typos or linguistic mistakes.

Well educated, but rather stupid an petty. JMO.

Gravel knows I tried. But it was like getting a key to some far off nebulous land. I even tried through the Portuguese song. Didn't work. I was still too full of typos. Heck, I still thought it was funny. I think of it as emotional machismo. //

414 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:40:48am

re: #412 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

This is a Black version of Amor Fati

[Video]

I do a lot of volunteering at young adult shelters and the other day a young black guy I know who frequents our shelter recognised the "amor fati" on the back of my sweater as coming from Nietzche. First person in maybe 6 months to do so (and tell me). He said it was the closest to his personal philosophy at the moment.

A lot of North American academic departments dont teach Nietzche anymore so even they would miss it.

415 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:41:23am

re: #409 Alexzander

Zizek considers himself a Christian Atheist.

I was actually reading a book called Nietzche and Levinas recently which was a series of academic essays drawing out similarities between the two intellectuals. For those of you who dont know, Emmanuel Levinas was a pretty influential Jewish phenomenologist who was deeply religious.
A Nietzschean Christian sounds like my ideal friend really - close by so far away.

I think I know what Zizek means by that. At least, my own version is, I call myself a cultural Black Protestant nontheist.

Sounds pretentious as eff, and takes five years to say, but it's the most accurate thing I can come up with. One stops believing. One does not just stop being culturally what one is.

Levinas (and of course Derrida) had a big impact on me. Well, all of the phenomenologists did. It was the times, what could I say.

416 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:44:42am

It'll never be 2004 again.

417 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:45:03am

The war is over. We lost.

418 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:45:48am

re: #414 Alexzander

I do a lot of volunteering at young adult shelters and the other day a young black guy I know who frequents our shelter recognised the "amor fati" on the back of my sweater as coming from Nietzche. First person in maybe 6 months to do so (and tell me). He said it was the closest to his personal philosophy at the moment.

A lot of North American academic departments dont teach Nietzche anymore so even they would miss it.

It's a very Black/blues attitude. We have a phrase: when some asshole tells you you have to do this or you have to do that, the answer is, Uh-huh. I don't have to do but two things: be Black, and die.

People who understand amor fati understand this.

419 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:47:06am

re: #413 Gus 802

I am normally loath to speak of the flounced, but that stuck-up, pernicious pedant rubbed me the wrong way, and in so many ways...

[Insert Reasonable Rebuttal Here]

"LOL! You misused an apostrophe, idiot, therefore rendering you're entire argument invalid. Plus, you're stupid. Watch in awe as I spew undeserved, sexually suggestive abuse at certain women using proper grammar".

420 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:47:19am

No more war porn. No more B-2s. No more B-1 bombing runs. No more waterboarding. No more sound effects from the A-10 strafing runs. No more Gaza Rooster. The war is over.

421 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:48:04am

re: #410 Slumbering Behemoth

Very little, you missed.

When cornered on something, and left without an intelligent argument, it would resort to pointing out typos or linguistic mistakes.

Well educated, but rather stupid an petty. JMO.

Ugh. One of those. I know someone like that who resorts to pulling rank on who has been around the longest.

Happens like clockwork.

422 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:48:29am

re: #415 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I think I know what Zizek means by that. At least, my own version is, I call myself a cultural Black Protestant nontheist.

Sounds pretentious as eff, and takes five years to say, but it's the most accurate thing I can come up with. One stops believing. One does not just stop being culturally what one is.

Levinas (and of course Derrida) had a big impact on me. Well, all of the phenomenologists did. It was the times, what could I say.

I dont know how best to label myself yet - perhaps something like Nietzschean post-atheist.
I'm still deeply influnced by Derrida and Levinas and if anything I'll probably go deeper that way.

Don't let the problems of this world
Drive you slowely out of your mind
Just smile, look at the problem
And say it be's that way, be's that way sometime

423 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:48:41am

re: #420 Gus 802

No more war porn. No more B-2s. No more B-1 bombing runs. No more waterboarding. No more sound effects from the A-10 strafing runs. No more Gaza Rooster. The war is over.

But... we have a dead Osama. That's gotta rank somewhere.

424 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:49:18am

re: #416 Gus 802

It'll never be 2004 again.

Its pretty unlikely to be 2007 or 1992 as well. Unless its all of them always and forever over and over again.

425 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:49:46am

re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, he's really glad he missed me.

426 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:49:59am

re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth

I am normally loath to speak of the flounced, but that stuck-up, pernicious pedant rubbed me the wrong way, and in so many ways...

[Insert Reasonable Rebuttal Here]

"LOL! You misused an apostrophe, idiot, therefore rendering you're entire argument invalid. Plus, you're stupid. Watch in awe as I spew undeserved, sexually suggestive abuse at certain women using proper grammar".

Heck he used to have errors all the time. I just kept my mouth shut. He got trivial. He lost. I didn't mind him though. He should have stuck around IMO. However, his ego was too big for this place so he flounced. No great loss. I got tired of his irrational anti-atheism anyway. And he was a former atheist so it was like listening to a former smoker. More or less.

427 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:50:04am

re: #421 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ugh. One of those. I know someone like that who resorts to pulling rank on who has been around the longest.

Happens like clockwork.

Well, I've been here much longer than you. Which means I can get banned from LGF just as easily as you. Wait... where was I going with that?

428 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:51:10am

re: #417 Gus 802

The war is over. We lost.

Really curious to know what you mean by this? Are you referring to shifts on LGF or on a more macroscopic scale?

429 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:51:33am

re: #424 Alexzander

Its pretty unlikely to be 2007 or 1992 as well. Unless its all of them always and forever over and over again.

Oh. 2004 was like a watershed year for LGF membership. It's sort of an inside joke now. Not that it really means much though since a lot of nice people registered in 2004 as well. Just joshing more or less.

430 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:53:08am

re: #425 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, he's really glad he missed me.

Nah, he would have loved you. In the "love/hate" kind of way, I think. Chip on the shoulder, loving the "fight", and all that.

Would have waited with bated breath to sling those oh so intelligent barbs at you.

431 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:54:20am

re: #422 Alexzander

Don't let the problems of this world
Drive you slowely out of your mind
Just smile, look at the problem
And say it be's that way, be's that way sometime

Baby, yes it does.

432 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:54:33am

Grammar is to be used as a bludgeon, not as a tool of expression...

433 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:55:08am

re: #429 Gus 802

Oh. 2004 was like a watershed year for LGF membership. It's sort of an inside joke now. Not that it really means much though since a lot of nice people registered in 2004 as well. Just joshing more or less.

*spit* Damned young whippersnapper.

//

434 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:55:31am

re: #428 Alexzander

Really curious to know what you mean by this? Are you referring to shifts on LGF or on a more macroscopic scale?

The Macro. I think Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan will continue to hate the USA once we're long gone. We may have won the battle but we didn't win the hearts. You can't change a culture like that. It was absurd to think we could. Look at Turkey which has barely budged. And the Kurds. And then the Christians in Iraq. It's just insanity which I view from an atheist perspective.

435 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:55:59am

re: #430 Slumbering Behemoth

Nah, he would have loved you. In the "love/hate" kind of way, I think. Chip on the shoulder, loving the "fight", and all that.

Would have waited with bated breath to sling those oh so intelligent barbs at you.

Ah. Well if all in fun that's cool. But usually dudes like that just end up getting their feelings hurt. I do wish I could be different but it's never been in coming.

436 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:56:31am

re: #429 Gus 802

Oh. 2004 was like a watershed year for LGF membership. It's sort of an inside joke now. Not that it really means much though since a lot of nice people registered in 2004 as well. Just joshing more or less.

Yeah I'm kind of aware of that era, I've been following the blog on and off since then. I probably would have been banned in a week if I'd registered during that era.

437 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:56:52am

I think 9/11 made a lot of people crazy. Nothing new here.

438 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:57:24am

re: #427 Slumbering Behemoth

So do you know how that crazy stalker site got its name?

439 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:57:29am

re: #426 Gus 802

I think it could not countenance the open criticism of it's brand of magical thinking, and committed suicide by insult.

440 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 12:59:48am

re: #438 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

So do you know how that crazy stalker site got its name?

Heh, which one?

441 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:00:36am

re: #434 Gus 802

The Macro. I think Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan will continue to hate the USA once we're long gone. We may have won the battle but we didn't win the hearts. You can't change a culture like that. It was absurd to think we could. Look at Turkey which has barely budged. And the Kurds. And then the Christians in Iraq. It's just insanity which I view from an atheist perspective.

A professor I knew worked on changes in belief (and logical reasoning).

He was deeply pessimistic about the ability of the general population to progress (or evolve out of their bigoted beliefs).

He pessimistic thought that we just have to wait for them to die.

442 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:00:37am

re: #437 Gus 802

I think 9/11 made a lot of people crazy. Nothing new here.

Oh man. Dunno about you but in the mid 00s I got in some serious knock down drag outs (online).

One thing that has always fascinated me about living in SF is the way NO BODY talks about Jim Jones and People's Temple. I'm seeing the same thing now with lefty sites airbrushing out their embrace of Alex Jones and all those antisemitic conspiracy theories.

443 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:01:44am

re: #440 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh, which one?

That stupid diary one.

[waves] HI FELLAS!!! *bats eyelashes*

444 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:03:20am

re: #437 Gus 802

I think 9/11 made a lot of people crazy. Nothing new here.

I kinda tend to see our actions in Afghanistan as a bout of temporary insanity, blinded by the blood in our eyes and filled with a great rage to hurt somebody like we'd been hurt.

Iraq...a crime of opportunity. One that we could have stopped, should have stopped, but consented to because we were still convinced of the "virtue" of the fight.

445 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:03:49am

re: #439 Slumbering Behemoth

I think it could not countenance the open criticism of it's brand of magical thinking, and committed suicide by insult.

You know. What pissed me off was that I liked him. I didn't agree with him but I sill thought he was an interesting person. In the end he decided to go full metal asshole so that's the way it is. No great loss. It's just the internet. He committed suicide by flounce. He had some weird ideas though. Like science being a religion for one. Then he thought all atheist were like Richard Dawkins. Plus he got all weird about the Israel/Palestine thing. Which still isn't uncommon you know what I mean wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

446 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:03:51am

re: #437 Gus 802

I think 9/11 made a lot of people crazy. Nothing new here.

I think its worth all of our time (and money, and perhaps over 100,000 Iraqi lives, and 2 to 3 Afghani children a day) to figure out how exactly that happened and determine how to reduce the likelihood of it happening again.

447 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:04:57am

re: #443 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

They've gone through many iterations. I stopped paying attention to them before that particular iteration.

But LGF has stalkers from every political persuasion. To my mind, this means Charles is doing something very right.

448 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:06:19am

I never understood the need to get personal and vindictive at a blog site, but then again, I do not live in my parents' basement and I have a circle of real-life friends of both sexues...

449 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:08:20am

re: #447 Slumbering Behemoth

They've gone through many iterations. I stopped paying attention to them before that particular iteration.

But LGF has stalkers from every political persuasion. To my mind, this means Charles is doing something very right.

Or everything wrong?

// I kid, I kid..

450 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:11:18am

re: #444 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I kinda tend to see our actions in Afghanistan as a bout of temporary insanity, blinded by the blood in our eyes and filled with a great rage to hurt somebody like we'd been hurt.

Iraq...a crime of opportunity. One that we could have stopped, should have stopped, but consented to because we were still convinced of the "virtue" of the fight.

Most everything like this is out of my hands so I just shrug it off. I laughed when I watched Colin Powell give his speech to the UN about WMDs in Iraq. Then watched the run up to the invasion. Iraq had little to do with 9/11. The rest is history. Afghanistan has some to do with 9/11 but not that much. Most of it was centered in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and remains so. Water under the bridge though. I voted for Bush in 2004 only because I didn't want to see a civil war in Iraq. Strange but true. But that's how bent I was in the aftermath of 9/11. But looking back Bush was actually a rather moderate Republican compared to the current Republican state of mind. We're still living in strange times.

451 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:11:26am

OK I've realized I need to listen to way more Nina Simone..

452 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:11:45am

re: #445 Gus 802

Atheism is just another religion, don't you know?

They worship the god of...

Well, I mean, they pray to...

But, they have a Holy Book of Doctrine called The...

FUCK YOU! Why won't you just take my word for it?!?

453 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:11:56am

I'm one of those people who was against both wars and always have been. Most people called it moonbat at the time, and still do but I don't care. It's been kind of a headsnap, however, to hear mainstream GOTP Repbulicans making the same arguments we "moonbats" were in early 2002, wtf.

454 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:14:11am

re: #450 Gus 802

Great reflection. Especially so on Bush - things are only getting stranger.

455 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:15:26am

re: #452 Slumbering Behemoth

Atheism is just another religion, don't you know?

They worship the god of...

Well, I mean, they pray to...

But, they have a Holy Book of Doctrine called The...

FUCK YOU! Why won't you just take my word for it?!?

Yeah. I wake up every morning thinking of nothing. The pain in my ass. The pain in my leg or my ear. That's some "religion" I have. I wake up thinking about "no magic man in the sky". My life sucks and it's all my own fault and not some demon. Pfft. I know. The other thought is that once I stop getting blood and oxygen to my brain I cease to have consciousness. I cease to exist. I never bother to extrapolate.

456 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:15:32am

re: #453 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Democrat in the White House. That's "What The Fuck".

And I am pleasantly surprised with his works so far.

457 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:17:04am

re: #456 Slumbering Behemoth

Democrat in the White House. That's "What The Fuck".

And I am pleasantly surprised with his works so far.

Obama's a good egg. He really is. He's very close to being the perfect centrist even.

458 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:17:55am

re: #451 Alexzander

OK I've realized I need to listen to way more Nina Simone..

Nina Simone will blow.your.mind.

She went crankodoodle in her later years. But musically, artistically, intellectually, she was a true A lister. I relate to her story a lot.

459 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:19:21am

re: #456 Slumbering Behemoth

Democrat in the White House. That's "What The Fuck".

And I am pleasantly surprised with his works so far.

Yeah I wonder if they would do the same thing with Hillary in the WH. I think they would.

460 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:19:34am

re: #455 Gus 802

Clearly, life has no meaning for you, and you should not celebrate anything.

Yet somehow, at the same time, you also are part of a religion of faith. Go figure.

461 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:20:15am

re: #450 Gus 802

Most everything like this is out of my hands so I just shrug it off. I laughed when I watched Colin Powell give his speech to the UN about WMDs in Iraq. Then watched the run up to the invasion. Iraq had little to do with 9/11. The rest is history. Afghanistan has some to do with 9/11 but not that much. Most of it was centered in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and remains so. Water under the bridge though. I voted for Bush in 2004 only because I didn't want to see a civil war in Iraq. Strange but true. But that's how bent I was in the aftermath of 9/11. But looking back Bush was actually a rather moderate Republican compared to the current Republican state of mind. We're still living in strange times.

Hell, if you take the time to dig through the archives here, you'll find that I used to be one of those with his head firmly planted up backside when it came to Bush and the Right. In a way, Charles and I both sort of went through the same transformations, first being "mugged" by 9/11 into signing into a lot of the anti-Islam BS for awhile, then a reevaluation after seeing some of the noxious shit coming out of the Right in the wake of '08. I voted for Bush in '04 because I honestly thought he was taking the "War on Terror" seriously, and in retrospect I don't regret that vote. Because you're right, Bush is like his old man and Reagan in that they are far more moderate, level-headed men than the loonies who claim to be "Republicans" now.

462 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:21:51am

re: #458 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Nina Simone will blow.your.mind.

She went crankodoodle in her later years. But musically, artistically, intellectually, she was a true A lister. I relate to her story a lot.

All the great ones do.
I know I will - hopefully I become great too!
Listening to "Who Am I?" right now.
Is there a particularly good documentary of biography to look up?

463 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:25:08am

re: #457 Gus 802

Obama's a good egg. He really is. He's very close to being the perfect centrist even.

I dig it so far. I have no major complaints, but I must add that I am ignorant when it comes to the issues of the economy.

re: #459 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah I wonder if they would do the same thing with Hillary in the WH. I think they would.

They would. Much of the Obama demonization I am hearing is only tired re-treads of the Clintion demonization I heard in the past. The only new shit is the "Birther/Sekrit Muslim" shit.

Does his complexion make a difference? For some it does. But for many, I think it's nothing more than the (D).

464 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:25:58am

re: #457 Gus 802

Obama's a good egg. He really is. He's very close to being the perfect centrist even.

It is incredible this isn't more recognised.

465 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:28:06am

re: #460 Slumbering Behemoth

Clearly, life has no meaning for you, and you should not celebrate anything.

[Video]Yet somehow, at the same time, you also are part of a religion of faith. Go figure.

You know how it is. We have "faith" in people. We judge people by who they are regardless of whether they're Christian, atheist, Jewish, Muslim or anything else. None of those associations determine how well they will respond in a positive affirmation towards our being and towards the world amongst us. I've seen good and bad from all of the above. That's the irony I guess. It doesn't matter what people believe in the end. It's who they are and how they respond to you in the affirmative when the going gets rough. That means the most to me.

466 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:28:16am

re: #459 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah I wonder if they would do the same thing with Hillary in the WH. I think they would.

Without a doubt. Instead of the Birther BS, it'd be calls for "investigations" into Vince Foster's death, suggestions of corruption stemming from Whitewater, and so forth. And you know they'd have no end of fun poking at the fact that Bill was "First Dude."

Really, you'd just be exchanging racism for misogyny.

467 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:29:09am

re: #461 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Bush is like his old man and Reagan in that they are far more moderate, level-headed men than the loonies who claim to be "Republicans" now.

In this vein, I feel the same about our current POTUS vis a vis the loonies of the very recent past who claimed to be Democrats.

468 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:31:29am

re: #467 Slumbering Behemoth

In this vein, I feel the same about our current POTUS vis a vis the loonies of the very recent past who claimed to be Democrats.

You mean like when Obama put Social Security on the table?

469 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:31:40am

re: #462 Alexzander

All the great ones do.
I know I will - hopefully I become great too!
Listening to "Who Am I?" right now.
Is there a particularly good documentary of biography to look up?

Ooo, "Who Am I", the Bernstein piece. That's a good one. Wait till you hear her Bach-based jazz.

There is a recent bio of her which I haven't read yet, Princess Noire. I have heard good things about it - [Link: amzn.to...]

Her autobiography is a good place to start - [Link: amzn.to...]

Also I'd recommend the Live At Ronnie Scott's DVD - [Link: amzn.to...]

Her studio years on Philips are the best produced and most polished. But every time you find a new CD, do get it because even if you think you have 10 versions of one song all eleven will be performed differently each time. I should say - be aware it's really easy to get obsessed with Nina Simone. She really sticks with you.

470 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:36:19am

re: #467 Slumbering Behemoth

In this vein, I feel the same about our current POTUS vis a vis the loonies of the very recent past who claimed to be Democrats.

Yeah, it's kinda funny to watch things now and see the historical parallels. I keep hearing the wingnuts tell me that Obama's the new Carter, that he's an utter failure and that he'll go down badly next year. Personally, I keep looking at him as Reagan, circa 1983: A fairly moderate (by today's standards) president who was trying to nurse the still ailing economy along against strong opposition from a very vocal Democratic Party. And we all remember how '84 worked out, and it wasn't the loonies who walked away with victory.

471 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:40:30am

re: #463 Slumbering Behemoth

They would. Much of the Obama demonization I am hearing is only tired re-treads of the Clintion demonization I heard in the past. The only new shit is the "Birther/Sekrit Muslim" shit.

Does his complexion make a difference? For some it does. But for many, I think it's nothing more than the (D).

I think you're right about that. The thing I keep dealing with is these disgruntled PUMA types who voted for him and are now pouting about everything he does, as if Hillary would do much different. I even had one tell me, we should not have voted in the black, we should have voted in the woman. Then we wouldn't be having all these teabaggers. /eyeroll

So the rwnj with skin color issues are not alone. But my own view is warped and jaundiced as any; I grew up among those kinds of people so their reaction was expected, and no surprise. Everyone else seems to me has not been paying attention, or is feigning shock, but again that is my jaundiced view. Imo their behavior is nothing new at all.

472 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:44:32am

re: #470 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yeah, it's kinda funny to watch things now and see the historical parallels. I keep hearing the wingnuts tell me that Obama's the new Carter, that he's an utter failure and that he'll go down badly next year. Personally, I keep looking at him as Reagan, circa 1983: A fairly moderate (by today's standards) president who was trying to nurse the still ailing economy along against strong opposition from a very vocal Democratic Party. And we all remember how '84 worked out, and it wasn't the loonies who walked away with victory.

That's such a joke. No president is like the other. Obama for one has far bigger balls than Carter. I could add more. And people keep complaining and thinking "well if we elect a Republican president we'll be much better off." Not hardly. We're dealing with an international economy now. Greece effects the market as does any other "little" European country. President can't wave their magic wand and make things better for us. People just aren't clued in. The fact is that the government doesn't run the economy in the USA or the world. It's the private sector. It's the banks and the investment bankers. In the USA it's also what the Fed decides which is almost outside the influence of normal democratic decisions. So if Romney won in 2012 it really wouldn't make a spit of difference. Life will continue to be very hard in these United States. That's just the way it is.

473 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:45:02am

re: #465 Gus 802

The Sarc...

But you deny the divinity of the Lord our Gravel, and therefore must be enthralled by another kind of faith.

The Real...

It doesn't matter what people believe in the end. It's who they are and how they respond to you in the affirmative when the going gets rough.

QFMFT!

I had a girlfriend once. Oh, she was lovey-dovey. Everything was peaches and cream. But we were both in good spots when we got together.

When the very first bit of real life roughness hit, financial it was, she turned into the nastiest bitch this side of... well, where ever nasty bitches are born.

Not at all a Team Player, she.

Yet I don't hate women. Go figure.

474 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:46:08am

It's like thinking we could bring jobs back to Gary, Indiana. How? How in the forking world will Gary, Indiana compete with Chinese wages. You just can't. To that I say, "keep thinking."

475 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:46:32am

re: #466 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Without a doubt. Instead of the Birther BS, it'd be calls for "investigations" into Vince Foster's death, suggestions of corruption stemming from Whitewater, and so forth. And you know they'd have no end of fun poking at the fact that Bill was "First Dude."

Really, you'd just be exchanging racism for misogyny.

I don't doubt it. There were even times I was I guess "concerned" about Palin in the case of a McCain/Palin win. It was kind of confirmed at the concession speech where she got catcalled by her own voters. I was like...uh-huh....

The first woman president is going to have a bear of a time. But after Hillary, Palin, and Michelle O as first lady, I think the country is just generally more used to it now.

476 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:47:55am

re: #468 Gus 802

You mean like when Obama put Social Security on the table?

I'm out of touch on this one. Sarc or NoSarc?

477 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:48:40am

re: #471 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Everyone else seems to me has not been paying attention, or is feigning shock, but again that is my jaundiced view. Imo their behavior is nothing new at all.

Feh, pimf

Everyone else, seems to me, has not been paying attention, or is feigning shock, but again that is my jaundiced view. Imo their behavior is nothing new at all.

478 Summer Seale  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:49:35am

Wow...Just....WOW!

BoingBoing: Fox & Friends lash out at News of the World critics

Can they get their tongues up Rupert Murdoch's ass any further on live TV? How did that taste, boys?

479 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:50:22am

re: #476 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm out of touch on this one. Sarc or NoSarc?

NoSarc. He did. Pelosi, although being the minority leader, said sure but not on the debt ceiling deliberations.

Nobody wants to cut SS. Neither party.

480 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:52:18am

re: #478 Summer

Wow...Just...WOW!

BoingBoing: Fox & Friends lash out at News of the World critics

Can they get their tongues up Rupert Murdoch's ass any further on live TV? How did that taste, boys?

Critics? How can you be a critic of a non-entity?

481 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:53:00am

re: #472 Gus 802

That's such a joke. No president is like the other. Obama for one has far bigger balls than Carter. I could add more. And people keep complaining and thinking "well if we elect a Republican president we'll be much better off." Not hardly. We're dealing with an international economy now. Greece effects the market as does any other "little" European country. President can't wave their magic wand and make things better for us. People just aren't clued in. The fact is that the government doesn't run the economy in the USA or the world. It's the private sector. It's the banks and the investment bankers. In the USA it's also what the Fed decides which is almost outside the influence of normal democratic decisions. So if Romney won in 2012 it really wouldn't make a spit of difference. Life will continue to be very hard in these United States. That's just the way it is.

Totally agree. This isn't the America of our fathers generation, or their fathers. We are not only a nation that is one among many instead of the king of the mountain, but we're also a nation which seemingly has ceased to have a functioning government. Really, if next year the GOP were to have a perfect sweep and take not only the White House, but both houses of Congress, they'd still not have anywhere near enough of a majority to rule by fiat. And after the last 10+ years, do folks in the GOP ranks honestly believe that those Democrats still in power will just roll over and allow themselves to be ordered how to vote?

482 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:57:22am

Sheesh. I generally wake up and log on and there is nobody here. But now there are actually lucid people talking at this hour? What to do, what to do....
Morning Honcos.

483 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:59:08am

re: #482 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sheesh. I generally wake up and log on and there is nobody here. But now there are actually lucid people talking at this hour? What to do, what to do...
Morning Honcos.

Eat more albacore tuna. Sure, it has a lot mercury. But the mercury helps keep the nervous energy going.

//

484 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:59:17am

re: #482 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sheesh. I generally wake up and log on and there is nobody here. But now there are actually lucid people talking at this hour? What to do, what to do...
Morning Honcos.

Yeah, caffeine is a hell of a drug.

/

485 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:01:29am

re: #478 Summer

"Why is the media focusing so much on this rapist when they barely covered the story about this rape victim here, or that rape victim there? Shirley there are more important topics to cover, like the current tortilla shortage in Arizona".

Relevancy and Accurate Comparisons: Fox & Friends doing it wrong. Not that such a thing is new for them.

486 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:01:49am

Fox and Friends is so dopey they're easy to ignore. Seriously stupid shit there.

487 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:03:18am

All TV sucks. Fox News is extra double stupid.

488 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:03:30am

Huh, yet another story on Yahoo about McConnell's brainfart...er, brainstorm of a "deal" getting a second glance in the Senate. My cynic senses are tingling.

489 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:03:46am

re: #482 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah - unusually active night it seems. I'm nearly ready to call it a night though.

490 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:04:02am

Brought to you by the same dorks that bring you American Idol. Nothing else need be said.

491 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:04:08am

re: #487 Gus 802

All TV sucks. Fox News is extra double stupid.

Hey now, we all need our daily dose of Two Minutes Hate.

//

492 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:05:36am

re: #491 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey now, we all need our daily dose of Two Minutes Hate.

//

Sean Hannity! LOL Too funny. What an idiot. He's like a janitor.

493 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:05:53am

Bill O'Reilly: Janitor

494 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:06:01am

re: #486 Gus 802

Fox and Friends is so dopey they're easy to ignore. Seriously stupid shit there.

The last time I watched F&F's was Christmas Day, 2007. I was kinda stuck in a NYC hotel and Bhutto was assassinated.

495 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:06:22am

Glenn Beck: Janitor

496 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:07:14am

Fox and Friends: White Trash. Oops. Sorry. Not PC. Janitors. //

497 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:07:30am

re: #494 Cannadian Club Akbar

The last time I watched F&F's was Christmas Day, 2007. I was kinda stuck in a NYC hotel and Bhutto was assassinated.

Actually, day after Christmas. My bad.

498 Alexzander  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:11:13am

Night all...

499 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:12:40am

Ditto. Night all. Be well.

500 Targetpractice  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:13:38am

Think I'll continue the trend and grab some sleep myself. BBL

501 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:14:34am

re: #498 Alexzander

re: #499 Gus 802

re: #500 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I KNEW IT!!!
/

502 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:17:30am

If Atheism were a religious faith...

Yeah, I altered the title some. Sue me.

I Paged it too. Sue me twice.

503 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:20:33am

re: #496 Gus 802

Fox and Friends: White Trash. Oops. Sorry. Not PC. Janitors. //

It's "Master of the Custodial Arts", you dick!

504 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:27:20am

Anyone besides me awake?

505 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:28:57am

re: #504 ggt

Anyone besides me awake?

Up until 20 minutes ago, people were rolling here. But they all went to bed.

506 mdey  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:29:35am

re: #504 ggt

Still here

507 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:29:45am

And now I have to restart. BRB. POS computer.

508 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:33:13am

here

509 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:33:40am

re: #504 ggt

Anyone besides me awake?

Nope.

510 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:39:30am

re: #509 Slumbering Behemoth

Nope.

Hey, SB, Let's party!!! Woot!
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

511 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:47:52am

re: #510 Cannadian Club Akbar

Heh, that site is like Oprah to me.

No matter how many grains of truth that it may present, it's rep is sullied in my eyes by it's propensity to promote woo-woo nonsense.

/Though I am happy for the FDA here in the US. Just sayin'. Safe, liver killing booze FTW!

512 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:51:00am

re: #510 Cannadian Club Akbar

Though I am down for a round of "Martin Burgers"!

513 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:52:05am

I think I'm getting tired. again .

514 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:53:56am

Yep, I think I"m going to be off soon.

Quick, someone post!

515 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:55:06am

too late, I"m off to bed again.

Have a great morning all!

516 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 2:55:27am

re: #511 Slumbering Behemoth

The thing I hate about HuffPo and msnbc and places like that is the fact that pretty much anyone can post there. You might as well be talking to yourself.

517 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:01:59am

re: #516 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's the homeopathy and other garbage woo woo that gets to me. By hosted authors.

You know what they call "Alternative Medicine" that has been proven to work?

"Medicine".

You know what they do with "Alternative Medicine" that has either been proven not to work, or not proven to work?

Get an "authority" to write about it on HuffPo, or pontificate about it on Oprah.

/Stealing a bit of Minchin there. Sue me thrice.

518 Summer Seale  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:02:35am

G+ is having major problems with their stupid policies. After banning tons of avatars (many of them my friends), they now have flagged William Shatner's profile for "Violating Standards". He is apparently considering leaving G+.

I'm just blown away that Google can be this blind. If they don't get the message after this that their stupid policies are extremist and idiotic, then I don't know what could possibly convince them.

Very, very, disappointed in Google atm. They should fix things and apologize to everyone and revamp their dumbass policies.

519 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:08:49am

re: #518 Summer

"Don't Be Evil".
/unless you're a mega-million dollar search engine corporation that willingly worked with the Chinese gov't to fuck over Chinese citizens potentially critical of said gov't... in which case all bets are off.

520 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:11:21am

My fucking lap top is really pissing me off. Prolly gonna take a shit on me. Wanna know why? I sold my other lap top last week. Fuck.

521 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:14:33am

re: #520 Cannadian Club Akbar

My fucking lap top is really pissing me off. Prolly gonna take a shit on me. Wanna know why? I sold my other lap top last week. Fuck.

It wanted you when you appeared to have other options. Now that you perceivably have none, it wants little to do with you. Oh, the fickle fancies of shallow laptops.

522 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:15:27am

re: #521 Slumbering Behemoth

It wanted you when you appeared to have other options. Now that you perceivably have none, it wants little to do with you. Oh, the fickle fancies of shallow laptops.

So laptops=women?

523 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:16:31am

re: #522 Cannadian Club Akbar

So laptops=women?

Or men. The mental disease of such shallowness plagues both genders.

524 researchok  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:19:24am

Morning, all

525 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:20:29am

re: #523 Slumbering Behemoth

Or men. The mental disease of such shallowness plagues both genders.

I meant more along the lines of "women don't look at me but if I am with a woman they do".:)

526 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:31:16am

re: #525 Cannadian Club Akbar

I meant more along the lines of "women don't look at me but if I am with a woman they do".:)

This is true, and it works the same way with dudes.

Though I am the type of dude to look at women regardless. Whether they're with someone, or I'm with someone, or we're both "without" someone, or we're both covered in squid guts and mayonnaise. I look.

527 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:33:30am

re: #525 Cannadian Club Akbar

It also works the same way with potential employers.

"You have a job? We want you."

"You don't have a job? We don't want you."

It's a sickness.

528 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:33:48am

re: #526 Slumbering Behemoth

This is true, and it works the same way with dudes.

Though I am the type of dude to look at women regardless. Whether they're with someone, or I'm with someone, or we're both "without" someone, or we're both covered in squid guts and mayonnaise. I look.

I have an ex-GF who knew I am a breast man. She would nudge me and say "look at the tits on that bitch". Heh.

529 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:35:22am

re: #527 Slumbering Behemoth

It also works the same way with potential employers.

"You have a job? We want you."

"You don't have a job? We don't want you."

It's a sickness.

This I am well aware of. Douches.

530 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:39:42am

re: #528 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have an ex-GF who knew I am a breast man. She would nudge me and say "look at the tits on that bitch". Heh.

One old g/f of mine commented on the "hawtness" of some actor on tv in front of me, then did the "oops, sorry, didn't mean that" for my benefit.

My response was something like "What? You expect me to believe you don't look at other men and find them attractive? That you don't fantasize about them? Big Whoop".

Of course, I left off the "If only you knew about the women I fantasize about..." part.

531 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:44:28am

re: #530 Slumbering Behemoth

One old g/f of mine commented on the "hawtness" of some actor on tv in front of me, then did the "oops, sorry, didn't mean that" for my benefit.

My response was something like "What? You expect me to believe you don't look at other men and find them attractive? That you don't fantasize about them? Big Whoop".

Of course, I left off the "If only you knew about the women I fantasize about..." part.

Did you two have an "agreement list" or whatever in regards to celebrities?

532 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:46:22am

re: #531 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did you two have an "agreement list" or whatever in regards to celebrities?

No. As I recall, that wasn't much of a "thing" back then.

533 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:48:48am

And despite her egotistical bluster, she wasn't a very secure.

534 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 3:52:16am

re: #533 Slumbering Behemoth

And despite her egotistical bluster, she wasn't a very secure.

Person.

I'm done for the night. Catch you scaly ones later.

535 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:07:42am

When your girlfriend complains about how you turn your head to look at the backsides of passing women, remind her that you do not have to turn your head to bring her posterior into your field of vision...

536 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:10:14am

re: #535 ralphieboy

When your girlfriend complains about how you turn your head to look at the backsides of passing women, remind her that you do not have to turn your head to bring her posterior into your field of vision...

And that's when the fight started...

537 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:10:45am

re: #536 Cannadian Club Akbar

And that's when the fight started...


Just move into her blind spot...

538 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:23:14am

Going for a quick walk before it gets hot, bbiab.

539 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:30:23am

Oh hai. I had to go to sleep last night while we were in the midst of a raging Vicodin conversation. Zedushka & #3 son got home from their excursion up north around midnight or 1:00am (I wouldn't know, I was fast asleep) and then son left for the airport at around 5:30am, just when my alarm went off.

SO GLAD I did not join them on their trip Up North.

540 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:34:13am

Good Morning Honcos!

My last week on the Navy staff! Woo HOOO!!

541 laZardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:43:52am

So I turn 24 tomorrow and I'm looking back with regret on all the opportunities I've missed.

Thank Raptor Jesus for 4chan's pr0n boards.

542 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:45:04am

re: #541 laZardo

So I turn 24 tomorrow and I'm looking back with regret on all the opportunities I've missed.

Just think of all the lost opportunities you will have to look back on when you turn 48...

543 Flounder  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 4:53:35am

re: #528 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just breasts?! I love feet, boney ankles, CFM heels, shoulder blades, long necks... I could go on but I'm getting myself in a lather.

544 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:01:26am

re: #543 Shropshire_Slasher

Just breasts?! I love feet, boney ankles, CFM heels, shoulder blades, long necks... I could go on but I'm getting myself in a lather.


I have learned to appreciate the entire package and how everything fits together. I do not understand the fixation on T&A at all.

545 Flounder  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:04:32am

re: #544 ralphieboy
Oedipal

546 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:11:26am

re: #543 Shropshire_Slasher

Just breasts?! I love feet, boney ankles, CFM heels, shoulder blades, long necks... I could go on but I'm getting myself in a lather.

What if the person attached to all of these body parts is a total douche? Does that still turn you on?

547 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:13:56am

re: #545 Shropshire_Slasher

Oedipal

Oedipalin

548 laZardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:19:15am

re: #542 ralphieboy

Just think of all the lost opportunities you will have to look back on when you turn 48...

[curled up in corner and sobbing uncontrollably]

Maybe I can rediscover religion.

549 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:22:17am

re: #548 laZardo

[curled up in corner and sobbing uncontrollably]

Maybe I can rediscover religion.

Twentysomethings rediscover religion. Thirtysometings start religions.

550 Flounder  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:29:26am

re: #546 Alouette
Sometimes it all goes down the drain once she opens her mouth.

551 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:31:07am

re: #550 Shropshire_Slasher

Sometimes it all goes down the drain once she opens her mouth.

Had that problem with a lovely goil from Joisey. She was otherwise brilliant, but I could not stand the thought of waking up to "Hiya! Woant some cwoffee?"

552 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:35:39am

re: #548 laZardo

tl;dr

553 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:37:36am

re: #549 Decatur Deb

Yeah, I was just reading about a formerly respectable guy in Russia (linguist, MSU professor) who started his own Church with emphasis on the "revelations" he received from Mother of God. Coincidence?

554 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:43:00am

re: #546 Alouette

What if the person attached to all of these body parts is a total douche? Does that still turn you on?

Mrs. Rightnow.

555 BongCrodny  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:48:47am

re: #478 Summer

Wow...Just...WOW!

BoingBoing: Fox & Friends lash out at News of the World critics

Can they get their tongues up Rupert Murdoch's ass any further on live TV? How did that taste, boys?


Well, it's Australian, so by default it can't be any worse than 80% of the local cuisine.

556 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:51:21am

re: #555 BongCrodny

Well, it's Australian, so by default it can't be any worse than 80% of the local cuisine.


sounds like a real pie floater

[Link: en.wikibooks.org...]

557 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:54:41am

This entire story is fucked up. I read about this a couple days ago. Before the son died, but after the woman died.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

558 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:55:50am

re: #556 ralphieboy

sounds like a real pie floater

[Link: en.wikibooks.org...]

Popular with drinkers? I'll stick to Taco Bell.

559 BongCrodny  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:58:09am

re: #556 ralphieboy

sounds like a real pie floater

[Link: en.wikibooks.org...]


Good Lord.

They sell that?

560 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:58:46am

re: #556 ralphieboy

Actually, looks good! Um, figuratively speaking.

561 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 5:59:54am

re: #558 Cannadian Club Akbar

Popular with drinkers? I'll stick to Taco Bell.

From what I hear, it is the sort of thing you fetch on your way home from the pub. I could not imagine ever eating one sober, much like Taco Bell or White Castle...

562 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:00:17am

re: #557 Cannadian Club Akbar

This entire story is fucked up. I read about this a couple days ago. Before the son died, but after the woman died.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

Levi Aron is probably headed up to Sing Sing for the rest of his natural life, while Jonah Shacknai will walk around free as a bird, guilty as hell.

563 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:00:27am

One of the questions the British MPs are reportedly planning on asking Murdoch and Murdoch is rather big.


4. Why did News International not hand over e-mails containing evidence of alleged illegality by its staff to police in spring 2007 when it gave them to solicitors Harbottle and Lewis for review?

This question asserts two things: that News International may have committed a crime by not handing over that evidence of illegality to the police, and that it gave those items to solicitors for review, which would probably be a rather high-level decision to make.

564 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:02:50am

What's the best way to join Google Plus? Does it work by invites?

565 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:05:59am

re: #564 Sergey Romanov

Yep. Email me and I'll give you one. I'm just my name here at gmail.

566 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:14:04am

re: #565 Obdicut

Got any more invites to spare?

567 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:14:22am

re: #468 Gus 802

You mean like when Obama put Social Security on the table?

Social Security has got to be on the table. Discretionary spending doesn't have an automatic increase built in. The trend we're on, our entitlement programs, taken together and combined with the demographic trends [more old people, fewer well educated high earners] will sink the budget no matter how drastically we cut discretionary spending.

568 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:16:52am

Awake again. I guess it's night of little sleep.

How is everyone?

569 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:21:54am

re: #566 wlewisiii

Sure. Email me.

570 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:22:30am

re: #567 lostlakehiker

Except that the boomers are a bolus, not a permanent increase to the SS rolls.

Why are you ignoring that?

571 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:23:30am

re: #567 lostlakehiker

Social Security has got to be on the table. Discretionary spending doesn't have an automatic increase built in. The trend we're on, our entitlement programs, taken together and combined with the demographic trends [more old people, fewer well educated high earners] will sink the budget no matter how drastically we cut discretionary spending.

On the other hand, increasing the tax rates (and closing the loopholes) to match those of 1996 would not only fund our existing programs but would pay down the deficit.

572 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:23:50am

re: #570 Obdicut

Except that the boomers are a bolus, not a permanent increase to the SS rolls.

Why are you ignoring that?


Just let in more illegal immigrants to work and pay into SS without any calaim to benefits...

573 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:24:48am

re: #557 Cannadian Club Akbar

This entire story is fucked up. I read about this a couple days ago. Before the son died, but after the woman died.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

her hands and feet were bound and they think it might have been a suicide?

I'm confused.

574 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:25:27am

re: #553 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, I was just reading about a formerly respectable guy in Russia (linguist, MSU professor) who started his own Church with emphasis on the "revelations" he received from Mother of God. Coincidence?

Did he go through a death and rebirth experience after a bout of alcohol/drug addiction?. If so, he's part of a long line.

575 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:28:14am

re: #574 Decatur Deb

I think it's probably a non-disabling mental illness, though I don't know that of course.

Image: O_ioann.jpg

576 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:29:27am

re: #553 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, I was just reading about a formerly respectable guy in Russia (linguist, MSU professor) who started his own Church with emphasis on the "revelations" he received from Mother of God. Coincidence?

Hey, it's a profitable gig if you can do it. . . .

577 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:29:54am

re: #575 Sergey Romanov

I think it's probably a non-disabling mental illness, though I don't know that of course.

Image: O_ioann.jpg

Religious revival is only a mental illness if it doesn't work.

578 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:32:47am

re: #573 ggt

her hands and feet were bound and they think it might have been a suicide?

I'm confused.

It's possible. They didn't give enough details (obviously) other than saying she was hanging from a balcony.

579 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:34:42am

re: #578 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's possible. They didn't give enough details (obviously) other than saying she was hanging from a balcony.

Well, I hope they figure it all out.

580 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:34:52am

re: #573 ggt

her hands and feet were bound and they think it might have been a suicide?

I'm confused.

Future Law & Order SVU. They'll figure it out for us.

581 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:36:45am

re: #580 Decatur Deb

Future Law & Order SVU. They'll figure it out for us.

"The story you are about to see is ripped from the headlines. But it didn't really happen. "Cept it did. These are their stories. I mean "The" story".

582 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:37:05am
583 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:37:34am

re: #581 Cannadian Club Akbar

"The story you are about to see is ripped from the headlines. But it didn't really happen. "Cept it did. These are their stories. I mean "The" story".

Bing BONG.

584 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:38:36am

re: #581 Cannadian Club Akbar

"The story you are about to see is ripped from the headlines. But it didn't really happen. "Cept it did. These are their stories. I mean "The" story".

Or a Dominc Dunne true crime novel.

585 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:40:51am

re: #582 ggt

ROTFLAMO

I'm thinking once you hit zero gravity, puke bags won't be much help.

586 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:42:10am

re: #585 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm thinking once you hit zero gravity, puke bags won't be much help.

I honestly had to recheck the url to make sure I hadn't somehow gotten to The Onion.

587 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:44:06am

re: #582 ggt

ROTFLAMO

"If you build it, they will come..."

588 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:45:44am

re: #587 ralphieboy

"If you build it, they will come..."

Well, once we hit warp speed, the Vulcan will have a proper landing spot.

589 kirkspencer  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:47:45am

re: #587 ralphieboy

"If you build it, they will come..."

Of course, they've competition in Willacy County, Texas. [Link: hobbyspace.com...]

590 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:48:33am

New Mexico has a Spaceport Authority.

Who knew?

591 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:49:41am

re: #589 kirkspencer

Of course, they've competition in Willacy County, Texas. [Link: hobbyspace.com...]

We should start a "booster rocket recovery" company. Or just sell it for scrap.

593 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:52:03am

re: #590 ggt

New Mexico has a Spaceport Authority.

Who knew?


WIl the IGTSA have to give aliens pat-down searches?

594 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:53:21am

re: #593 ralphieboy

WIl the IGTSA have to give aliens pat-down searches?

Prolly. I don't think Greys have hanging berries.

595 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:53:24am

re: #593 ralphieboy

WIl the IGTSA have to give aliens pat-down searches?

They wouldn't know what to look for any more than TSA.

596 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:54:21am

Imma thinking that the elected officials must have been smoking some of that ganja they confiscated from the tent city inmates.

597 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:57:21am

Wait, don't we already have a spaceport of sorts in Flordia?

Oh yeah, they are shutting it down because it isn't going to be used anymore.

598 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:58:49am

re: #597 ggt

Wait, don't we already have a spaceport of sorts in Flordia?

Oh yeah, they are shutting it down because it isn't going to be used anymore.

It will be used for some stuff. But there will be layoffs.

599 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:59:16am

CNN: British police officer who ruled two years ago to not reopen investigation into News of the World resigns

600 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:59:25am

re: #598 Cannadian Club Akbar

It will be used for some stuff. But there will be layoffs.

Those laid-off can go work in New Mexico.

601 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:07:24am

re: #599 Killgore Trout

CNN: British police officer who ruled two years ago to not reopen investigation into News of the World resigns

That was a quick reversal.

Sources say that he was confronted with new information about the friendship between the two men who have known each other for many years.

Assistant Commissioner Yates is unlikely to go quietly.

This morning he told friends that it would be "outrageous" if he was suspended and - as I posted earlier - that he would only resign if his judgement was found wanting by the official inquiry to be chaired by Lord Leveson.

602 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:07:40am

re: #599 Killgore Trout

CNN: British police officer who ruled two years ago to not reopen investigation into News of the World resigns

This guy?
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

603 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:09:14am

More garbage from the already tarnished Wall Street Journal....
A tabloid's excesses don't tarnish thousands of other journalists.

When News Corp. and CEO Rupert Murdoch secured enough shares to buy Dow Jones & Co. four years ago, these columns welcomed our new owner and promised to stand by the same standards and principles we always had. That promise is worth repeating now that politicians and our competitors are using the phone-hacking years ago at a British corner of News Corp. to assail the Journal, and perhaps injure press freedom in general.
....
Phone-hacking is deplorable, and we assume the guilty will be prosecuted. More fundamentally, the News of the World's offense—fatal, as it turned out—was to violate the trust of its readers by not coming about its news honestly. We realize how precious that reader trust is, and our obligation is to re-earn it every day.
604 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:11:06am

re: #602 Cannadian Club Akbar

This guy?
[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

Yeah, I think that's him...

Mr Yates came under increasing pressure over his decision in 2009 that there was no need to reopen the Met's investigation into phone hacking at the News of the World.
605 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:12:07am

re: #569 Obdicut

Sure. Email me.

(click click, type type)

Interesting.

Thank you!

606 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:12:42am

We realize how precious reader trust is, which is why we bury them in bullsh*t every day...

607 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:22:32am

re: #606 ralphieboy

We realize how precious reader trust is, which is why we bury them in bullsh*t every day...

Looking at that article again it's kind of a veiled threat. The are urging against a congressional investigation because Republicans may counter with investigations into liberal press when they get the power.

608 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:24:17am

Caring for the Baby Boomers is getting really, really expensive for individual families --in time and stress . . .

"On top of this, there's a shortage of paid home health aides. Last week, the Obama administration joined labor groups calling for the creation of 2 million more jobs in home health care, plus a new visa for immigrants willing to enter the field.

Mintz has grappled with the problem in caring for her husband, who has multiple sclerosis. Earlier this year, she had trouble finding someone to change his catheter twice a week while she was at work. So she says she resorted to something a little crazy.

"With Steven's permission, I actually put a note on the neighborhood Listserv," she says.

Sure enough, a man who works from home said he'd be willing to try it. He's been doing it ever since — for free.

Mintz says we need to expand our definition of "family." Next year, she plans to launch a recruitment drive to match those in need with volunteers.

"It might be, 'I can drive her to PT for the next five Thursdays,' or 'I can bring meals for the next six months,' " Mintz says.

In other words, create a community of caregivers — an old idea for a new age."

609 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:25:17am

re: #607 Killgore Trout

Looking at that article again it's kind of a veiled threat. The are urging against a congressional investigation because Republicans may counter with investigations into liberal press when they get the power.

You mean the press isn't totally free of political bias. The days of Hamilton and Jefferson aren't over?????

611 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:27:09am
612 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:27:32am

re: #608 ggt

Caring for the Baby Boomers is getting really, really expensive for individual families --in time and stress . . .

I took care of my father for 14 months. No catheter, but everything else.

613 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:30:51am

re: #610 laZardo

CURSE YOU RICHARD BRANSOOON~

/wait, it was in New Mexico, right?

Branson is their anchor client.

I just can't see the investment at this time. I love the idea, hope it works, but I don't see it working on the balance sheet.

614 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:33:58am

Even Ed Morrisey is critical of the WSJ editorial but still warns against politically motivated witch hunts....

Demanding exotic prosecutions based on stretching statutes to the breaking point should threaten anyone working in the First Amendment sphere. It’s too bad that the Journal didn’t just stick with that argument today, because it’s a valuable reminder that government regulation of media won’t solve any ills, but instead will introduce a lot of new and much more malignant problems. Unfortunately, they buried the lede.
615 allegro  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:34:30am

re: #608 ggt

Caring for the Baby Boomers is getting really, really expensive for individual families --in time and stress . . .

I think this has always been done by good neighbors. The problem is that we don't know our neighbors like we used to. We move around a lot with few spending their lives in the same town. We live in paranoia - or maybe just "convenience" - opening our garage doors remotely to get in the house without ever going outside to engage with our neighbors.

Since I moved into an RV park from my house of 20 years where I knew my neighbors only well enough to wave at them a couple of times a year, I have really experienced this difference. I now go out and walk my dogs every day and talk to folks. When I got sick a few months ago and was flat on my back for 2 months after 3 weeks in the hospital, my neighbors were amazing. They took shifts walking my dogs several times a day, they fetched my groceries and did my laundry. I had a constant stream of visitors just stopping in to make sure I was OK.

I dunno where I'm going with this exactly but I know I'm onto something.

616 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:34:34am

re: #612 Cannadian Club Akbar

I took care of my father for 14 months. No catheter, but everything else.

Luckily, my parents could afford a CNA for the short-time my Dad needed one. I have a girl friend who moved her mother in with them, they (out of her mother's dwindling money) pay for a "mexican lady" to come in during the day while they work. Her mother get's excellent care. Since they were able to sell her house, she should be able to afford it until she is gone.

In the nursing home that my dad was in after his stroke for "rehab" all the CNA's were immigrants. Every caregiver, I've met thru my girlfriend has been an immigrant.

They make a decent hourly wage, but like preschool teachers, way, way less than I think they are worth.

617 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:35:25am

re: #615 allegro

I think this has always been done by good neighbors. The problem is that we don't know our neighbors like we used to. We move around a lot with few spending their lives in the same town. We live in paranoia - or maybe just "convenience" - opening our garage doors remotely to get in the house without ever going outside to engage with our neighbors.

Since I moved into an RV park from my house of 20 years where I knew my neighbors only well enough to wave at them a couple of times a year, I have really experienced this difference. I now go out and walk my dogs every day and talk to folks. When I got sick a few months ago and was flat on my back for 2 months after 3 weeks in the hospital, my neighbors were amazing. They took shifts walking my dogs several times a day, they fetched my groceries and did my laundry. I had a constant stream of visitors just stopping in to make sure I was OK.

I dunno where I'm going with this exactly but I know I'm onto something.

Well, dog people are good people!

618 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:36:37am

re: #613 ggt

Branson is their anchor client.

I just can't see the investment at this time. I love the idea, hope it works, but I don't see it working on the balance sheet.

From your earlier link:
The first thing you see when you pull up to the construction site is a sign that says it will be finished in early 2011. The project is running behind schedule and over budget for a number of reasons.

What could go wrong?
/

619 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:36:47am

re: #607 Killgore Trout

Looking at that article again it's kind of a veiled threat. The are urging against a congressional investigation because Republicans may counter with investigations into liberal press when they get the power.


The spin on this is that this is a government ploy to curtail freedom of the press.

Sort of like arresting a criminal for breaking and entering is a government plot to restrict his freedom of travel...

620 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:37:55am

re: #617 ggt

Well, dog people are good people!

Thanks

(as I sit here with Einstein, a 12 lb mixed terrier mutt on one side of me, and McDuff, an 18 lb West Highland Terrier guarding my other flank!!)

621 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:38:19am

re: #618 Cannadian Club Akbar

From your earlier link:
The first thing you see when you pull up to the construction site is a sign that says it will be finished in early 2011. The project is running behind schedule and over budget for a number of reasons.

What could go wrong?
/

Actual aliens could come back and be disappointed their welcome is ready for them?

;0

622 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:38:42am

An excellent posting in the pages...
A Year in Asia (video made by Boondocksaint)

623 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:39:51am

re: #621 ggt

Actual aliens could come back and be disappointed their welcome is ready for them?

;0

IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!!

(5 Quatloos for getting the reference)

624 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:39:51am

re: #619 ralphieboy

The spin on this is that this is a government ploy to curtail freedom of the press.

Sort of like arresting a criminal for breaking and entering is a government plot to restrict his freedom of travel...

Well, in our Brave New World, up is down you know . . .

625 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:40:50am

re: #623 sattv4u2

IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!

(5 Quatloos for getting the reference)

stumped, I'm still on my first cuppa

626 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:41:06am

re: #623 sattv4u2

IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!

(5 Quatloos for getting the reference)

Twilight Zone.

627 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:42:14am

Don't you all just love when its 11:30 p.m.,, and you're on vacation (it's a staycation for us this time) and you're all comfy cozy for the night ,,, and the phone rings , and it's your boss ,, and it's an emergency,,, and you have to go into work for 8-9 hours,,, don't you just live that!!

I know Mrs Satty was thrilled!!!

628 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:42:44am

re: #625 ggt

stumped, I'm still on my first cuppa

CCA wins at 626

629 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:42:46am

re: #627 sattv4u2

Don't you all just love when its 11:30 p.m.,, and you're on vacation (it's a staycation for us this time) and you're all comfy cozy for the night ,,, and the phone rings , and it's your boss ,, and it's an emergency,,, and you have to go into work for 8-9 hours,,, don't you just live that!!

I know Mrs Satty was thrilled!!!

Job security, try to look on the bright side.

630 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:43:21am

What's the exchange rate between Quatloos and the USD?

631 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:45:26am

re: #625 ggt

re: #626 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

GGT,, full episode is available on YouTube, I think

one of many classics, but this is one of THE best

632 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:45:49am

re: #627 sattv4u2

Don't you all just love when its 11:30 p.m.,, and you're on vacation (it's a staycation for us this time) and you're all comfy cozy for the night ,,, and the phone rings , and it's your boss ,, and it's an emergency,,, and you have to go into work for 8-9 hours,,, don't you just live that!!

I know Mrs Satty was thrilled!!!

You don't have to go if you tell the boss you're drunk. Just sayin'.
/

633 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:46:55am

re: #630 ggt

What's the exchange rate between Quatloos and the USD?

10 years ago, it was 1 for 1

Today, not so much

(unless you get the exchange with a Ferengi!)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

634 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:47:26am

re: #632 Cannadian Club Akbar

You don't have to go if you tell the boss you're drunk. Just sayin'.
/

Already went and came back

YOU must be drunk,, I stated it was 11:30 PM!!!

635 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:49:44am

re: #634 sattv4u2

Already went and came back

YOU must be drunk,, I stated it was 11:30 PM!!!

I meant if you were drunk when the boss called!!!

636 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:49:50am

re: #633 sattv4u2

That's why I stick to gold pressed latinum.

637 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:51:16am

re: #636 lawhawk

That's why I stick to gold pressed latinum.

I tried that

But carrying all that weight in cargo pants. Hard to walk!! PLUS ,, the clanging as one pocket full hits against another pocket full!!

638 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:52:10am

re: #635 Cannadian Club Akbar

I meant if you were drunk when the boss called!!!

"It's a little over an hours drive for you,,, you'll be sober by the time you get here !!"

639 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:52:58am

re: #635 Cannadian Club Akbar

You're just pissed because the Rays wasted a great pitching effort last night!

640 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:53:09am

It's raining!

641 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:53:43am

re: #639 sattv4u2

You're just pissed because the Rays wasted a great pitching effort last night!

About 4 pitching efforts!!

642 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:53:48am

re: #640 ggt

It's raining!

It's pouring

Check on the old man!!

643 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:55:03am

My friend's grandbrat thought he was gonna steal my $110K back scratcher. Not.

644 laZardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:55:06am

re: #621 ggt

Actual aliens could come back and be disappointed their welcome is ready for them?

;0

I'm just saving my trailer spot for the Intergalactic Megabowl next year. I hear the Nibiru Rangers have really worked on their defense.

645 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:55:47am

re: #633 sattv4u2

10 years ago, it was 1 for 1

Today, not so much

(unless you get the exchange with a Ferengi!)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I don't do well with Ferengi --not willing to rub their ears . . .

646 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:56:19am

re: #636 lawhawk

That's why I stick to gold pressed latinum.

That would be my choice, but the prize money offered was in Quatloos.

647 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:56:42am

re: #645 ggt

I don't do well with Ferengi --not willing to rub their ears . . .

At least not on the 1st date!

648 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:56:46am

re: #642 sattv4u2

It's pouring

Check on the old man!!

No need to check, he always snores.

649 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:57:11am

re: #646 ggt

That would be my choice, but the prize money offered was in Quatloos.

He's a lawyer

Always trying to cut a deal!!

650 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:57:36am

re: #649 sattv4u2

He's a lawyer

Always trying to cut a deal!!

keeps down the court costs . . .

651 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:00:52am
652 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:05:10am

re: #651 ggt

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Nelson Mandela!

Hope he has help blowing out the candles!
/

653 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:08:38am

Oh, now it's thundering . . .

654 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:09:35am

re: #653 ggt

Oh, now it's thundering . . .

After a very very dry spring and early summer, we've now had a week of overcast days and rainy weather. If I don't see some sunlight soon, I'm going to go crazy.

655 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:10:36am

re: #654 reine.de.tout

After a very very dry spring and early summer, we've now had a week of overcast days and rainy weather. If I don't see some sunlight soon, I'm going to go crazy.

Here you go.

656 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:11:16am

Next time, get it in writing...
[Link: mynorthwest.com...]

657 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:13:05am

re: #656 Cannadian Club Akbar

Next time, get it in writing...
[Link: mynorthwest.com...]

Even then, you'd better have it posted to your forehead. EMT's are programed to save lives.. . . .

658 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:15:39am

re: #654 reine.de.tout

After a very very dry spring and early summer, we've now had a week of overcast days and rainy weather. If I don't see some sunlight soon, I'm going to go crazy.

How can you "go" somewhere you already are at!?!?!

//

{duckin'}

659 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:16:12am

Crazy, it's better than Michigan. . .

660 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:17:04am

re: #656 Cannadian Club Akbar

Next time, get it in writing...
[Link: mynorthwest.com...]

Reminds me

Why do they make sure they use sterile needles for lethal injections??

//

661 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:18:27am

re: #660 sattv4u2

Reminds me

Why do they make sure they use sterile needles for lethal injections??

//

Why would people get a tattoo from a guy named Rusty?
/

662 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:18:28am

re: #659 ggt

Crazy, it's better than Michigan. . .

That should be on a license plate!

663 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:18:35am

re: #660 sattv4u2

Reminds me

Why do they make sure they use sterile needles for lethal injections??

//

Why do they have braille keypads at drive-up ATMs?

664 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:18:57am

Michele Bachmann Says The Darndest Things

665 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:19:57am

re: #663 ggt

Why do they have braille keypads at drive-up ATMs?

If you saw some of the people I've seen driving around here, you'd understand!!

666 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:20:04am

re: #664 Killgore Trout

Michele Bachmann Says The Darndest Things

[Video]

I don't wanna know,

I've only had 2 cuppas,

The dog ate my homework,

WHY, WHY, WHY do we have to be subjected to this woman? What, G-d, please tell me What we, collectively as a nation, did to deserve this?

667 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:20:18am

re: #663 ggt

Why do they have braille keypads at drive-up ATMs?

Why do they advertise psychic fairs?

668 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:21:04am

re: #666 ggt

I don't wanna know,

I've only had 2 cuppas,

The dog ate my homework,

WHY, WHY, WHY do we have to be subjected to this woman? What, G-d, please tell me What we, collectively as a nation, did to deserve this?

American Idol!!

669 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:21:34am

re: #666 ggt

What we, collectively as a nation, did to deserve this?


There are rumors that this is what god wants.

670 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:22:13am

re: #663 ggt

Why do they have braille keypads at drive-up ATMs?

There is an answer to that. The same ATM console is used whether is it a drive-through or a walk-up. It's not as though these consoles are ONLY for drive-through.

671 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:22:14am

re: #669 Killgore Trout

There are rumors that this is what god wants.

Later today I'll ask the burning bush!

672 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:22:35am

re: #670 Alouette

There is an answer to that. The same ATM console is used whether is it a drive-through or a walk-up. It's not as though these consoles are ONLY for drive-through.

spoil sport

673 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:22:48am

"Not all cultures are equal"

???????????

Oh, I'd love to hear the rationalization and justification for that one.

No, I wouldn't.

Really.

674 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:24:01am

re: #667 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why do they advertise psychic fairs?

How come you never see a headline PSYCHIC WINS LOTTERY!

675 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:24:05am

re: #673 ggt

"Not all cultures are equal"

???

Oh, I'd love to hear the rationalization and justification for that one.

No, I wouldn't.

Really.

Yogurt > Sour Cream.
/

676 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:24:48am

re: #671 sattv4u2

Later today I'll ask the burning bush!

They don't (usually) burn until September/October in Chicagoland. . .

677 lazardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:25:35am

re: #666 ggt

#666 ggt

IT'S NOT GOD'S WORK.

/ ;P

678 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:25:58am

I've decided it's all about money. If we can marginalize "certain" identifiable groups, they won't take OUR jobs.

679 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:26:15am

re: #677 lazardo

IT'S NOT GOD'S WORK.

/ ;P

good catch!

680 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:26:45am

re: #676 ggt

They don't (usually) burn until September/October in Chicagoland. . .

BUSH
GAS
MATCH
______

MARSHMALLOWS!

681 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:27:10am

re: #670 Alouette

There is an answer to that. The same ATM console is used whether is it a drive-through or a walk-up. It's not as though these consoles are ONLY for drive-through.

I think it's more economic than producing two different keypads for ATM's. Cheaper to use a standardized mold and put it on all of them.

682 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:27:33am

re: #680 sattv4u2

BUSH
GAS
MATCH
___

MARSHMALLOWS!

CHOCOLATE!

683 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:28:17am

re: #680 sattv4u2

BUSH
GAS
MATCH
___

MARSHMALLOWS!

re: #682 ggt

CHOCOLATE!

No s'more out of you two!!
/

684 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:28:19am

re: #675 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yogurt > Sour Cream.
/

Ice Cream > Frozen Yogurt

685 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:28:51am

re: #682 ggt

CHOCOLATE!

I'll bring some if you'll rub my ears!

686 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:28:52am

re: #683 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #682 ggt

No s'more out of you two!!
/

You are NO FUN!!!

:)

687 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:29:09am

re: #685 sattv4u2

I'll bring some if you'll rub my ears!

Will you give me a better exchange rate?

688 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:29:46am

re: #687 ggt

Will you give me a better exchange rate?

I'll have to consult with my attorney!

689 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:31:17am

re: #666 ggt

I don't wanna know,

I've only had 2 cuppas,

The dog ate my homework,

WHY, WHY, WHY do we have to be subjected to this woman? What, G-d, please tell me What we, collectively as a nation, did to deserve this?

Disco.

690 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:31:47am
691 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:32:21am

re: #689 Decatur Deb

Disco.

Naw, even Disco isn't a sufficient reason . . .

692 allegro  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:34:12am

re: #690 ggt

Bachman and Assoc --not a licensed therapist--good Page

Oh my. So he gets federal money for treating patients when there is no evidence that he's qualified to do so?

693 recusancy  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:34:36am

re: #461 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hell, if you take the time to dig through the archives here, you'll find that I used to be one of those with his head firmly planted up backside when it came to Bush and the Right. In a way, Charles and I both sort of went through the same transformations, first being "mugged" by 9/11 into signing into a lot of the anti-Islam BS for awhile, then a reevaluation after seeing some of the noxious shit coming out of the Right in the wake of '08. I voted for Bush in '04 because I honestly thought he was taking the "War on Terror" seriously, and in retrospect I don't regret that vote. Because you're right, Bush is like his old man and Reagan in that they are far more moderate, level-headed men than the loonies who claim to be "Republicans" now.

Thank you! Someone finally admits it.

694 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:36:27am

re: #693 recusancy

Thank you! Someone finally admits it.

WEll, I think most of us went thru that.

Now, I'm just anti-Whacko.

695 lazardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:36:50am

re: #694 ggt

WEll, I think most of us went thru that.

Now, I'm just anti-Whacko.

I did. Oh, to be young and impressionable.

696 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:37:09am

re: #694 ggt

WEll, I think most of us went thru that.

Now, I'm just anti-Whacko.

damn

and here I thought you liked me!!
/

697 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:37:11am

re: #692 allegro

Oh my. So he gets federal money for treating patients when there is no evidence that he's qualified to do so?

I'm sure he can come-up with some proof that G-d wants him to do this kind of work . . . .

698 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:37:48am

re: #689 Decatur Deb

Disco.

I always knew John Travolta was evil!!

699 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:38:30am

re: #698 sattv4u2

I always knew John Travolta was evil!!

He is a Scientologist.

700 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:38:41am

re: #698 sattv4u2

I always knew John Travolta was evil!!

Whacko does not equal Evil.

701 lazardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:39:22am

re: #700 ggt

Whacko does not equal Evil.

Evidence against: Charlie Sheen.

702 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:39:46am

re: #700 ggt

Whacko does not equal Evil.

You sure!?!?

[Link: www.google.com...]

703 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:39:53am

re: #696 sattv4u2

damn

and here I thought you liked me!!
/

Naw, I don't like anybody. Except, maybe, my dog.

704 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:39:56am

re: #692 allegro

Oh my. So he gets federal money for treating patients when there is no evidence that he's qualified to do so?

Government overregulation again: who needs the government to tell us he cannot cure gays with prayer?

705 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:40:22am

re: #701 lazardo

Evidence against: Charlie Sheen.

Mental Illness does not equal Evil.

706 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:40:43am

re: #702 sattv4u2

You sure!?!?

[Link: www.google.com...]

Well, when you are talking cognomens . . . .

707 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:41:13am

re: #704 ralphieboy

Government overregulation again: who needs the government to tell us he cannot cure gays with prayer?

Flying under the radar no more . . .

708 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:41:55am

re: #705 ggt

Mental Illness does not equal Evil.

He;s not too far gone on the crazy train!!

Net Worth: $85 million (2011)
[Link: exploredia.com...]

jus sayin'

709 recusancy  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:42:13am

re: #705 ggt

Mental Illness does not equal Evil.

That was lazardo's point.

710 lazardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:42:27am
711 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:42:44am

re: #708 sattv4u2

He;s not too far gone on the crazy train!!

Net Worth: $85 million (2011)
[Link: exploredia.com...]

jus sayin'

Rich only exacerbates some illness, doesn't equal Evil.

Evil is Jeffrey Dahlmer.

712 lazardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:43:45am

re: #703 ggt

Naw, I don't like anybody. Except, maybe, my dog.

Well then.

713 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:44:31am

re: #710 lazardo

The GOP on 28 July 2011.

You sure??
separated at birth??

[Link: mammothsheet.blogspot.com...]

[Link: forum.nin.com...]

//

714 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:45:11am

Mornin' rabble...I'm east bound and down...loaded up and truckin'...I'm gonna do what they say can't be done...
(yeah, I'll be poisoning the internets with songs containing the word Atlanta in them all week).

715 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:45:25am

re: #709 recusancy

That was lazardo's point.

Well, I think it goes something like this:

All Whacko is not Evil
All Mental Illness is not Whacko
Therefore, All Mental Illness is not evil.

All Charlie Sheen is Mentally Ill
All Charlie Sheen sheen is Whacko
AllCharlie Sheen is not evil.

I need more than 2 cuppas for this shit.

Needless to say he hasn't eaten any babies . . .

716 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:45:48am

re: #714 darthstar

Mornin' rabble...I'm east bound and down...loaded up and truckin'...I'm gonna do what they say can't be done...
(yeah, I'll be poisoning the internets with songs containing the word Atlanta in them all week).

HOLD THE WEDDIN

You're invading my fair city??

717 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:46:53am

re: #716 sattv4u2

HOLD THE WEDDIN

You're invading my fair city??

Aw, shit...you live there? Pilot! Turn this bucket of bolts around!

(How's the weather? and don't let me catch you sawin' on a fiddle and playin' it hot...)

718 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:47:57am

re: #711 ggt

Rich only exacerbates some illness, doesn't equal Evil.

Evil is Jeffrey Dahlmer.

Levi Aron is made out of the same Evil.

719 lazardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:48:39am

re: #715 ggt

Needless to say he hasn't eaten any babies . . .

The consumption of infants for sustenance has always been more of a satirically scholarly affair more than one for the mentally deranged.

720 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:48:58am

re: #718 Alouette

Levi Aron is made out of the same Evil.

Some twistedness is beyond the diagnosis of any illness. . . .

721 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:49:23am

re: #717 darthstar

Aw, shit...you live there? Pilot! Turn this bucket of bolts around!

(How's the weather? and don't let me catch you sawin' on a fiddle and playin' it hot...)

I work IN Atlanta

Live a little over an hour straight east of the city

Weather next five days,,, low 90's ,, chances of later afternoon thunder-boomers Wed/Thurs/Fri

Coming for work or pleasure?

722 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:49:29am

re: #719 lazardo

The consumption of infants for sustenance has always been more of a satirically scholarly affair more than one for the mentally deranged.

ewwwwww

723 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:50:24am

White Supremacist Picks A Fight With Black Guy, Black Guy Happens To Be Boxing Champion

28-year-old white supremacist Daren C. Abbey began threatening Marlon Baker at a Boise, Idaho bar because “blacks are not welcome” there. Baker decided to leave but Abbey followed him to his car screaming racist things at him. Abbey then tried to punch him, but little did he know Baker was a champion boxer. Baker knocked him out with one punch. When Abbey woke up, he was arrested and charged with misdemeanor battery and felony malicious harassment.

724 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:51:15am
725 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:51:50am

re: #721 sattv4u2

I work IN Atlanta

Live a little over an hour straight east of the city

Weather next five days,,, low 90's ,, chances of later afternoon thunder-boomers Wed/Thurs/Fri

Coming for work or pleasure?

Work...we have an office in Alpharetta and I'm going to sync up with my equal there to borrow some of his people for a week...sort of an engineer exchange. (I pull out all the stops when it comes to actually getting shit done)

727 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:52:11am

re: #723 Killgore Trout

White Supremacist Picks A Fight With Black Guy, Black Guy Happens To Be Boxing Champion

How are these people going to react when aliens start landing at the Space Port?

WTF, it's 2011--idiots.

728 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:52:19am

Hilarious Rip from Politico:

Poll: Barack Obama Least Loathed in Debt Fight


[Link: www.politico.com...]

729 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:52:52am

re: #723 Killgore Trout

White Supremacist Picks A Fight With Black Guy, Black Guy Happens To Be Boxing Champion

I love stories with happy endings...thank you.

730 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:54:08am

re: #725 darthstar

Work...we have an office in Alpharetta and I'm going to sync up with my equal there to borrow some of his people for a week...sort of an engineer exchange. (I pull out all the stops when it comes to actually getting shit done)

Cool

Good luck

How long is you stay?

731 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:54:51am

...

732 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:55:09am

re: #731 Obdicut

...

!!!

733 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:55:46am

re: #727 ggt

How are these people going to react when aliens start landing at the Space Port?

WTF, it's 2011--idiots.

ESPECIALLY if the aliens look like this

[Link: forums.armageddononline.org...]

734 Obdicut  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:56:39am

re: #731 Obdicut

Weird.

What I said was that the dude wasn't even an ex-professional boxer. Just an amateur. which makes what he did all the sweeter.

He tried to defuse it by walking away, yet the racist followed. I'm glad the cops didn't do the too-frequent thing of arresting everyone involved.

735 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:56:41am

re: #732 Cannadian Club Akbar

!!!

morse code

...
---
...

736 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:57:04am

re: #735 sattv4u2

morse code

...
---
...

SOS.

737 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:57:17am

re: #730 sattv4u2

Cool

Good luck

How long is you stay?

Not long...fly in today, leave Thursday afternoon. Travelling with my boss - so I suspect there will be some drinking involved. We share that skill.

738 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:57:27am

re: #736 Cannadian Club Akbar

SOS.

I prefer Brillo

739 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:57:54am

re: #736 Cannadian Club Akbar

SOS.

Suck our skulls? I don't get it.
/

740 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:58:02am

re: #738 sattv4u2

I prefer Brillo

win

741 lazardo  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:58:13am

re: #732 Cannadian Club Akbar

!!!

742 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:58:28am

re: #737 darthstar

Not long...fly in today, leave Thursday afternoon. Travelling with my boss - so I suspect there will be some drinking involved. We share that skill.

one word

BUCKHEAD

Thats THE bar scene area ,,, not too far from Alpharetta

743 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:58:41am

re: #732 Cannadian Club Akbar

!!!

???

744 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:58:59am

re: #743 iceweasel

???

Why would you question that??

/

745 Cannadian Club Akbar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:59:15am

re: #742 sattv4u2

one word

BUCKHEAD

Thats THE bar scene area ,,, not too far from Alpharetta

MY friend used to bartend there. Made a mint.

746 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:59:20am

re: #733 sattv4u2

ESPECIALLY if the aliens look like this

[Link: forums.armageddononline.org...]

That episode was written by Shari Lewis of Lambchop fame!

747 darthstar  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:59:44am

re: #743 iceweasel

???

,, down doobie doo down down...shit...I can never type three commas in a row.

748 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:59:49am

re: #744 sattv4u2

Why would you question that??

/

I'm a liberal, I question authority. /

749 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:00:03am

re: #746 ggt

That episode was written by Shari Lewis of Lambchop fame!

I did not know that

750 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:00:35am

re: #749 sattv4u2

I did not know that

She was way kewl!

751 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:00:42am

re: #748 iceweasel

I'm a liberal, I question authority. /

Last time I did,, back in the 70's ,, I ended up in handcuffs!

752 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:01:40am

re: #751 sattv4u2

Last time I did,, back in the 70's ,, I ended up in handcuffs!

753 sattv4u2  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:02:00am

And on that note

TO THE KITCHEN!!

754 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:02:31am

Not going upstairs, not passing go, not collecting my zionist check this week.

Have a great day all!

755 Gus  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:04:54am

Good morning I guess. My head hurts.

In other news..

NWSA
14.89
-0.75 (-4.81%)

756 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 18, 2011 9:43:51am

re: #658 sattv4u2

How can you "go" somewhere you already are at!?!?!

//

{duckin'}

I should have stayed here and hollered at you for that . . .


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