GWAR Singer Kicked Off of Fox News Red Eye for ‘Beheading’ Palin

Oderus Urungus gets on thin-skinned Sarah’s bad side

The shock-metal band GWAR has a bit in their show in which they decapitate politicians in effigy. I know, high class entertainment.

But when they put a simulated Sarah Palin’s neck on the simulated chopping block, suddenly their lead singer found himself no longer welcome on Fox News’s “comedy” show, Red Eye: GWAR Singer Oderus Urungus Quietly Kicked Off of Fox News Red Eye.

Since the dawn of GWAR, the band has been making statements about politics by decapitating replicas of politicians during their live shows.

Now, after performing the act on a prop version of Sarah Palin during their last tour, lead singer Oderus Urungus is no longer able to appear on Fox News’ Red Eye, hosted by Greg Gutfeld, because of negative backlash from right wing conservatives.

Urungus turned to his Twitter page to seek support from his fans. He tweets:

“I got canned because Sarah Palin complained that we disemboweled her. The nerve of that woman!”

and

“Sound off like you got a pair if you think it sucks that I am not on Red Eye anymore!”

Despite appearing on Red Eye semi-regularly, Urungus stopped receiving calls to be asked back. After trying to get in contact with the studio for months, he was finally able to discover the truth.

While passing through New York on a tour with GWAR, Urungus sat down with Gutfeld, shared a few beers, and found out he was no longer invited back to Red Eye because of the band’s treatment of the mock Palin.

During their discussion, Gutfeld expressed surprise at Urungus’ dismissal, but led the GWAR front man to believe the execution of a fake Sarah Palin upset Fox’s higher ups enough to remove him from the show.

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533 comments

1 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 7:53:48pm

Maybe they can invite the Sexecutioner instead?

2 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 7:54:11pm

Insane Clown Posse unavailable for comment.

3 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 7:55:06pm

Wait, what?

4 jaunte  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 7:55:59pm
the execution of a fake Sarah Palin upset Fox’s higher ups


It just keeps getting weirder.

5 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 7:56:26pm

re: #3 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, what?

Sexecutioner would fit right in on Fox

6 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:01:16pm

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm still trying to wrap my head around GWAR front man Oderus Urungus being a regular guest on a Fox News program.

Forget about Rod Serling, I think our reality has officially crossed over into The Onion Zone.

7 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:01:35pm

Just all around, ugh.

8 jaunte  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:01:40pm
1999's We Kill Everything would present an unusual sound, but based largely on Gwar's Hell-O era sound, resulting in an album that the band dismisses as their worst. Indeed, the band's rejection of We Kill Everything would drive them to return to their thrash metal sound with Violence Has Arrived, which would later evolve into a more technical form of thrash, present in War Party, Beyond Hell, Lust in Space, and Bloody Pit of Horror.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]


I guess Fox higher ups didn't really keep track of what they were buying. (Now known as "The Murdoch Defence")

9 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:03:43pm

re: #8 jaunte

I guess Fox higher ups didn't really keep track of what they were buying. (Now known as "The Murdoch Defence")

Hey, "The Road Behind" is actually a good song.

10 laZardo  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:05:41pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Insane Clown Posse unavailable for comment.

Fucking e-mails, how do they work?

11 jaunte  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:05:46pm

BadAstronomer Phil Plait
At this moment, July 21 at 02:56 UTC, 42 years ago, a human being set foot on another world. #Apollo11

12 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:07:09pm

I had to double check the dateline on Charles' article. They've been doing this gimmick for years....
Oct 31, 2010

13 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:07:47pm

hahaha

14 Obdicut  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:10:14pm

It's GWAR.

They pee on you.

(sorta).

15 darthstar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:12:40pm

Heh...on Conan tonight, they were talking about Palin's new grand kid (Track's going to be a daddy)...they wondered what he'd name it. Andy suggested "Gestate"...

16 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:13:44pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Maybe they heard a rumor about Mr. Urungus hacking into stoner's cell phones, and are using this Palin thing as an excuse to distance their network from him.

17 Hawaii69  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:14:49pm

So, it's okay to whip out a giant rubber cock from under your costume and spray simulated "Man Jam" all over your audience....but decapitatiing a Sarah Palin doll shows bad taste? Hmmmm...

Do any of the higher ups at FOX News know anything at all about GWAR?

18 Gus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:16:38pm

Geez. It's GWAR for crying out loud. What do they expect? Wayne Newton? Plus, back when I used to watch Red Eye, Greg Gutfeld used to say all kinds of weird stupid shit -- which I liked.

19 darthstar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:16:48pm
20 palomino  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:17:17pm

But, hey, when Ted Nugent tells Hillary and Obama to "suck on the end of my machine gun", he's just being a patriot, right? Fox seems to have no problem with that.

21 darthstar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:18:00pm

re: #17 Hawaii69

So, it's okay to whip out a giant rubber cock from under your costume and spray simulated "Man Jam" all over your audience...but decapitatiing a Sarah Palin doll shows bad taste? Hmmm...

Do any of the higher ups at FOX News know anything at all about GWAR?

Giant rubber cock = family values.
Decapitate Sara = sin.

22 Gus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:18:20pm

re: #20 palomino

But, hey, when Ted Nugent tells Hillary and Obama to "suck on the end of my machine gun", he's just being a patriot, right? Fox seems to have no problem with that.

That's different!

//

23 darthstar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:18:56pm

re: #20 palomino

But, hey, when Ted Nugent tells Hillary and Obama to "suck on the end of my machine gun", he's just being a patriot, right? Fox seems to have no problem with that.

They're going through a rough patch right now. Give it a few weeks and all will be forgotten.

24 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:19:45pm

I had to see it with my own eyes. Just too damn weird.

Red Eye On FOX News - 14th Appearance by GWAR Frontman Oderus Urungus

25 laZardo  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:20:33pm

re: #11 jaunte

BadAstronomer Phil Plait
At this moment, July 21 at 02:56 UTC, 42 years ago, a human being set foot on another world. #Apollo11

Assuming the Chinese get a man on the moon in 2025, they'll still have 56 years of catching up to do!

/partial

26 bratwurst  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:21:08pm

Their show is stupid, lame, disgusting, tasteless, and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Oh yeah...GWAR isn't all that great either./

27 makeitstop  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:24:04pm

re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm still trying to wrap my head around GWAR front man Oderus Urungus being a regular guest on a Fox News program.

Forget about Rod Serling, I think our reality has officially crossed over into The Onion Zone.

One of my favorite musicians, Ginger from The Wildhearts, was a regular on Red Eye for a while. He's a funny guy and riffs well on TV. I'm sure Oderus has his frontman patter down - and how could the lead singer of a band like Gwar not be hilarious to talk to?

Sucks he got kicked off, though. Buncha onion skins over at that network, all as paranoid as their boss.

28 teleskiguy  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:24:50pm

Please fellow lizards, forgive me for the all caps, but I have to say that

GWAR Kicked Off of Fox News


IS THE FUNNIEST FIRST 7 WORDS OF AN LGF HEADLINE EVER PERIOD THE END!!!

With a battle cry go forth which is
"Give the people what they want."
And what the people want could only be the senseless slaughter
of the gutter-slime that litters this nation for cash and prizes.

-GWAR, Slaughterama

29 Hawaii69  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:25:09pm

re: #21 darthstar

Giant rubber cock = family values.
Decapitate Sara = sin.

Isn't it a sin to waste your seed? Or at least glorify the wasting of
your seed?

30 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:28:27pm

re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth

I had to see it with my own eyes. Just too damn weird.

Red Eye On FOX News - 14th Appearance by GWAR Frontman Oderus Urungus

[Video]

And in the full get up too, nice.

31 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:28:47pm

I suppose the next thing ya tell me is that Sickie Wifebeater (guitarist for The Mentors) used to be a regular guest contributor on Fox & Friends.

The Mentors - Sandwich of Love

*TOTALLY NSFW LYRICS*

32 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:29:02pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

Please fellow lizards, forgive me for the all caps, but I have to say that


IS THE FUNNIEST FIRST 7 WORDS OF AN LGF HEADLINE EVER PERIOD THE END!!!

With a battle cry go forth which is
"Give the people what they want."
And what the people want could only be the senseless slaughter
of the gutter-slime that litters this nation for cash and prizes.

-GWAR, Slaughterama

Which reminds me, how is little Tofu doing?

33 sagehen  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:29:23pm

Who are some of the other politicians they've done the same to? The ones that Fox wasn't bothered by?

34 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:29:58pm

re: #29 Hawaii69

Isn't it a sin to waste your seed? Or at least glorify the wasting of
your seed?

Onanism, aka, the pull-out method.

35 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:30:57pm

"We run a wholesome, respectable, family friendly network here! We can't have such trash on our networks, giving the appearance of endorsing them or their way of life...even if he has been on our network over a dozen times now!"

//

36 sagehen  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:31:18pm

re: #29 Hawaii69

Isn't it a sin to waste your seed? Or at least glorify the wasting of
your seed?

Only for orthodox Jews; everyone else can spray where they will.

37 jvic  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:31:26pm

Maybe the Giffords shooting played a role in the decision.

38 makeitstop  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:31:57pm

I hear Rat Scabies has a show on Fox Business.
/

39 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:33:13pm

re: #33 sagehen

Who are some of the other politicians they've done the same to? The ones that Fox wasn't bothered by?

Obama Beheaded by Gwar in Florida

40 The Yankee  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:33:23pm

I was of the belief that RedEye was off the air after disrespecting Canada. And I thought that Gwar went broke up long ago.

41 darthstar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:33:23pm

re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth

I had to see it with my own eyes. Just too damn weird.

Red Eye On FOX News - 14th Appearance by GWAR Frontman Oderus Urungus

[Video]

Okay...that's just fucking juvenile and stupid.

42 darthstar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:34:27pm

re: #36 sagehen

Only for orthodox Jews; everyone else can spray where they will*.

* does not apply to meetings with the HR department.

43 darthstar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:35:02pm

Okay...bed time. Good night, everyone.

44 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:35:04pm

re: #37 jvic

Maybe the Giffords shooting played a role in the decision.

Yeah, I'm sure thats it.
/

45 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:41:04pm

Whole thing sounds tacky. Ooh look at me I'm virtually decapitating a politician. Does seem though if this guy and his band have done other politicians such as Obama, Fox is displaying a double standard but what else is new.

46 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:41:05pm
Even though they’ve been beheading politicians for years, FOX never seemed to be bothered by the activity, even the decapitation of Obama, until poor Sarah Palin was attacked.

OMG the space aliens attacked Queen Esther!

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:45:08pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

It is tacky, but that's their shtick. Sort of like the love child of KISS and Gallagher, taken to the extreme.

48 jvic  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:46:18pm

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

#37 jvic

Maybe the Giffords shooting played a role in the decision.

Yeah, I'm sure thats it.
/

I couldn't pin down the dates. That's why I wrote 'Maybe'.

Since you're "sure", please explain why.

Or if your sarc tag wasn't a typo, please explain why my conjecture should be dismissed out of hand.

49 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:46:26pm

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

It is tacky, but that's their shtick. Sort of like the love child of KISS and Gallagher, taken to the extreme.

Yeah find it cheesy I guess personally though it's their right. Their right of course. Never been big on either Kiss or Gallagher for what it's wort heither.

50 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:49:31pm

re: #48 jvic

Yeah, I'm sure thats it.
/

I couldn't pin down the dates. That's why I wrote 'Maybe'.

Since you're "sure", please explain why.

Or if your sarc tag wasn't a typo, please explain why my conjecture should be dismissed out of hand.

Fox has no problem backing people who do worse than this on their shows when its someone they support.

51 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:50:57pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Yeah find it cheesy I guess personally though it's their right. Their right of course. Never been big on either Kiss or Gallagher for what it's wort heither.

I was a big fan of KISS in kindergarten and grade school, and a fan of Gallagher's in junior high school. I have since... outgrown both.

52 jvic  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:55:15pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

...Fox has no problem backing people who do worse than this on their shows when its someone they support.

I don't follow Fox and it doesn't sound like I'm making a mistake.

They show worse things than mock killings?

53 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:56:44pm

re: #14 Obdicut

It's GWAR.

That's pretty much my reaction.

They brought GWAR on to Fox News. What the hell did they think was going to happen?

54 blueraven  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:57:41pm

re: #52 jvic

I don't follow Fox and it doesn't sound like I'm making a mistake.

They show worse things than mock killings?

They showed Glen Beck for over 2 years, so yeah.

55 efuseakay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:57:51pm

I

56 efuseakay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:59:09pm

Oops... I mean... I heart GWAR! Here they were on Joan Rivers:

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:59:17pm

Huh. The Red Eye folks sure used to love GWAR...

Red Eye On FOX News - 2nd Appearance by GWAR Frontman Oderus Urungus

This is weirder than finding out you're new girlfriend used to be a man. From another planet.

58 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:01:17pm

re: #52 jvic

I don't follow Fox and it doesn't sound like I'm making a mistake.

They show worse things than mock killings?

Whats worse? Having a shock rocker who has cartoonish violence in his act or providing a serious platform for people who think shooting doctors is a viable response to the abortion debate?

59 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:01:36pm

Seen Gwar four times live, first time was in high school, for the America Must be Destroyed tour

I remember they chopped up Bush, Clinton and the Pope :D

60 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:01:51pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Huh. The Red Eye folks sure used to love GWAR...

Red Eye On FOX News - 2nd Appearance by GWAR Frontman Oderus Urungus

[Video]This is weirder than finding out you're new girlfriend used to be a man. From another planet.

61 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:02:19pm

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Which reminds me, how is little Tofu doing?

WHAT? HE GREW ANOTHER HEAD?

62 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:02:57pm

re: #61 WindUpBird

WHAT? HE GREW ANOTHER HEAD?

Was hanging way too long on that one. Thanks

63 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:04:01pm

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Was hanging way too long on that one. Thanks

Someone's gotta bring the Scumdogs love :D


BLACK AND HUUUUGE

ALL THE WOMEN HATE ME IN THE PORNO BOOTH

64 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:04:57pm

Gwar does jazz:

65 jvic  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:09:32pm

re: #58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats worse? Having a shock rocker who has cartoonish violence in his act or providing a serious platform for people who think shooting doctors is a viable response to the abortion debate?

If required to choose, I'd say the second is worse, but that doesn't excuse the first: especially, to repeat, after a nearly successful political assassination.

In fact, I wonder if the combination of the two in a single channel is worse than the sum of the parts: a malignant synergy.

66 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:10:15pm

re: #37 jvic

Maybe the Giffords shooting played a role in the decision.

re: #52 jvic

I don't follow Fox and it doesn't sound like I'm making a mistake.

No, you are making a mistake. GWAR's last tour date in New York was Dec 26, 2010, this is when he says he went out for beers with Gutfield and found out why he'd been banned. Gabby Giffords was shot January 8, 2011. QED his banning from Red Eye for the mock assassination of Palin must have preceded the attempted assassination.

67 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:15:44pm

Is it just me, or is Red Eye unwatchable?

68 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:17:10pm

re: #67 Iwouldprefernotto

Is it just me, or is Red Eye unwatchable?

It is Fox.

69 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:17:36pm

re: #67 Iwouldprefernotto

Is it just me, or is Red Eye unwatchable?

It's not just you. I don't have cable or satellite tv, so Red Eye is totally unwatchable for me. We'll, except the bits I find on the internet anyway.

70 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:17:43pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It is Fox.

But we watch Fox all the time around here...

71 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:18:19pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Insane Clown Posse unavailable for comment.

But they later issued a statement blaming "Fuckin' magnets".

72 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:21:27pm

re: #67 Iwouldprefernotto

Is it just me, or is Red Eye unwatchable?

I actually think Gutfield is funny, though I seldom watch that show.. And while I think Fox is being overly touchy, this is one time where Fox News isn't actually doing anything wrong. They are free to invite or disinvite guests as they please. This was a business decision, meant to keep their audience happy.

73 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:21:36pm

re: #67 Iwouldprefernotto

Is it just me, or is Red Eye unwatchable?

You have a functional IQ above 100, you're sane, and you can get through the day without a crash helmet on. Of course it's unwatchable to you.

74 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:22:15pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

So that's the problem with the folks at FNC. Regular, attempted coitus with lode stones?

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:24:11pm

re: #73 Lidane

You have a functional IQ above 100 [citation needed], you're sane[citation needed], and you can get through the day without a crash helmet on[citation needed]. Of course it's unwatchable to you.

/:P

76 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:26:13pm

re: #73 Lidane

you can get through the day without a crash helmet on.

I can, but I would prefer not to.

77 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:28:16pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

This was a business decision, meant to keep their audience happy.

And as long as GWAR was decapitating Obama mannequins FOX's audience was very happy. Same thing with Ted Nugent telling Obama and Hillary to suck on his machine gun. It's a classless channel that caters to hate filled people.

78 Kragar  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:28:20pm

re: #70 JasonA

But we watch Fox all the time around here...

Yeah, I also watched "Manos: The Hands of Fate", but that was with the help of MST3k.

Same deal.

79 jvic  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:28:41pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

re: #52 jvic

I don't follow Fox and it doesn't sound like I'm making a mistake.

No, you are making a mistake. GWAR's last tour date in New York was Dec 26, 2010, this is when he says he went out for beers with Gutfield and found out why he'd been banned. Gabby Giffords was shot January 8, 2011. QED his banning from Red Eye for the mock assassination of Palin must have preceded the attempted assassination.

1. "I don't follow Fox and it doesn't sound like I'm making a mistake" (by not following Fox).

That, I still maintain, is not a mistake.

2. Thanks for the clarification about the timeline.

80 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:29:53pm

re: #74 Slumbering Behemoth

So that's the problem with the folks at FNC. Regular, attempted coitus with lode stones?

Nope, just a business decision. Their viewing base does not want to see those who demean The Sarah. To Palin fans, GWAR are just another bunch of liberal haters. That's not really true, but her fanbase is not noted for its critical reasoning skills.

81 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:35:23pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

And as long as GWAR was decapitating Obama mannequins FOX's audience was very happy. Same thing with Ted Nugent telling Obama and Hillary to suck on his machine gun. It's a classless channel that caters to hate filled people.

No argument here. GWAR is an equal-opportunity offender, but the Fox viewing base only wanted to indulge its "kill Obama" fantasy. In an earlier age they just would have bought lynching postcards.

82 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:37:40pm

re: #79 jvic

1. "I don't follow Fox and it doesn't sound like I'm making a mistake" (by not following Fox).

That, I still maintain, is not a mistake.

2. Thanks for the clarification about the timeline.

No problem. Also bear in mind that Palin's the one that published the infamous crosshairs map, and then claimed that the backlash after the shooting constituted a "blood libel."

83 laZardo  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:38:53pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

GMTAish #10

84 Gus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:38:58pm

Can't say I ever listened to a whole GWAR song. Other than perhaps on a clip while they were on something like the Jerry Springer show. Not a fan of that type of music noise.

85 Firstinla  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:39:41pm

To disembowel somebody you rip out their guts; to decapitate somebody you cut off their head. In the case of Sarah Palin, who has her head up her ass, disembowelment is the natural consequence of decapitation.

86 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:40:51pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

It's a constant parade of "own goals" and righteous indignation.

87 EiMitch  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:45:30pm

In 2004, GWAR released War Party, an album devoted almost entirely to mocking the war on terror. In other words, a big eff-you to right-wingers at the time. Not to mention their usual barrage of gratuitous violence, ridiculously gross sex, and ruthless mockery of religion.

What the hell were they doing on Fox in the first place? GWAR's music and stage acts are the embodiment of everything that Fox's target audience fears and despises. This could not have ended any other way.

88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:49:50pm

re: #87 EiMitch

This could not have ended any other way.

And I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that it started in the first place.

89 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:50:45pm

re: #87 EiMitch

Yes, but while they were going after Obama they matched to sentiments of many Fox viewers. Once they went back to going after right of center people they were shown the door. It was all about the going after Obama.

90 Gus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:52:11pm

re: #88 Slumbering Behemoth

And I am still trying to wrap my head around the fact that it started in the first place.

That's because Greg Gutfeld is a Rockefeller Republican.

//

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:55:20pm

re: #90 Gus 802

The Onion has it's work cut out for them this election cycle, what with "reality" competing for the truly "WTF?" headlines.

92 Gus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:01:55pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

The Onion has it's work cut out for them this election cycle, what with "reality" competing for the truly "WTF?" headlines.

Real life meets USENET psychology.

//

93 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:02:05pm

Interesting times indeed. Curse you, anonymous Chinese philosopher!

94 Gus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:04:24pm

STS-135 "Atlantis"
ETA @ KSC: 5:56:58 AM EDT
Final landing.

95 Firstinla  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:09:44pm

re: #94 Gus 802

It's been a tremendously exciting ride during the space shuttle era. I hope this isn't the end of American manned presence in space.

96 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:09:52pm

re: #94 Gus 802

And an era of American space exploration ends, with no new era to replace it. :sigh:

97 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:13:53pm

re: #96 Slumbering Behemoth

And an era of American space exploration ends, with no new era to replace it. :sigh:

Space is going to belong to private firms for a time. There remains a place for NASA personnel up there, but we've got to get our fiscal house in order first. After that, we can think about big ticket non-defense programs again.

98 Gus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:13:56pm

Warm/hot end to the day today. Going to sleep. Good night.

99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:21:07pm

re: #95 Firstinla

It's been a tremendously exciting ride during the space shuttle era. I hope this isn't the end of American manned presence in space.

Oh, don't worry. Instead of wasting taxpayer dollars to do the damn thing ourselves, we'll waste taxpayer dollars entrusting the lives of some of our best and brightest to pay China, India, Russia, or whomever else, to put our astronauts out there.

And never mind the fact that we won't be the ones reaping the early, financial and domestic rewards of "first discovery" from such R&D efforts. Funding health care (an industry that has benefited greatly from the space program) and ensuring that Jesus was the only person in American history to have two dads is way more important.

100 Firstinla  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:21:30pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Because getting our fiscal house in order is not something that will happen in my lifetime (what remains of it) my experience of manned space flight will consist of watching NASA films. But there is always excitement in even that. However, this space junkie is already going through withdrawal. The closest I got to a real time experience was watching the shuttle land at Edwards Air Force Base (Dryden).

101 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:27:52pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Space is going to belong to private firms for a time. There remains a place for NASA personnel up there, but we've got to get our fiscal house in order first. After that, we can think about big ticket non-defense programs again.

Except that NASA isn't a big ticket ANYTHING, so that argument is bullshit.

If we got rid of a few bloated defense contracts and stop funding weapons that the Pentagon doesn't even want because they're obsolete and outdated, we'd have all the money we need for NASA. "Getting our house in order" is a load of crap. It's never going to be in order without serious cuts in defense and all of the REAL big ticket items.

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:28:14pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Space is going to belong to private firms for a time.

Space is going to belong to other nations willing to do that damn thing, and we're going to pay out the nose for the privilege of tagging along, all while watching our nation slowly lag behind in the medical, technological, economic and scientific benefits that come with being on the fore front of such research.

103 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:29:26pm

re: #100 Firstinla

Because getting our fiscal house in order is not something that will happen in my lifetime (what remains of it) my experience of manned space flight will consist of watching NASA films. But there is always excitement in even that. However, this space junkie is already going through withdrawal. The closest I got to a real time experience was watching the shuttle land at Edwards Air Force Base (Dryden).

Well, I think I'll live that long, if the nation doesn't go broke entirely beforehand. And we don't have to have zero deficit in order to start planning a space project, we just have to have made good progress and have a way to control the program's costs.

104 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:30:50pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Well, I think I'll live that long, if the nation doesn't go broke entirely beforehand. And we don't have to have zero deficit in order to start planning a space project, we just have to have made good progress and have a way to control the program's costs.

Again-- start cutting defense spending. Get rid of some of those bloated contracts that don't do anything and which are years behind schedule and billions over-budget. Get rid of the weapons systems that the Pentagon doesn't want anymore. Stop wasting billions on them.

NASA would have all the money they need, easy.

105 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:32:03pm

re: #101 Lidane

Except that NASA isn't a big ticket ANYTHING, so that argument is bullshit.

If we got rid of a few bloated defense contracts and stop funding weapons that the Pentagon doesn't even want because they're obsolete and outdated, we'd have all the money we need for NASA. "Getting our house in order" is a load of crap. It's never going to be in order without serious cuts in defense and all of the REAL big ticket items.

Entitlements cost more than DoD, and serious defense cuts are not in the cards. We've got too much force modernization to do, and we always will have too much of that to do. The price of being a major power is continual updating. And don't bring up things like the V-22, because its actually proved itself in Afghanistan.

106 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:33:25pm

re: #104 Lidane

I'd rather cut elsewhere. If that means no manned spaceflight for while, OK. We need the Joint Strike Fighter more than any space program, anyhow.

107 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:34:27pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

Entitlements cost more than DoD, and serious defense cuts are not in the cards. We've got too much force modernization to do, and we always will have too much of that to do. The price of being a major power is continual updating. And don't bring up things like the V-22, because its actually proved itself in Afghanistan.

Part of updating and modernization is defunding all of the current defense contracts that are bloated and weighed down with graft and which are years behind schedule. It also involved getting rid of weapons and defense systems that the Pentagon doesn't want anymore.

Cut them off. Stop wasting money on them. Spend that money on something that will actually provide an ROI instead of being a black hole.

108 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:34:28pm

re: #104 Lidane

Outdated defense programs, cracking down on welfare fraud, the money is there.

Cutting NASA? With all the benefits reaped from such a program in many other aspects of our lives?

This Neo-Luddism regarding space exploration is appalling.

109 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:35:17pm

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

I'd rather cut elsewhere. If that means no manned spaceflight for while, OK. We need the Joint Strike Fighter more than any space program, anyhow.

And the technology for that Joint Strike Fighter came from where, exactly?

110 laZardo  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:35:53pm

re: #107 Lidane

Part of updating and modernization is defunding all of the current defense contracts that are bloated and weighed down with graft and which are years behind schedule. It also involved getting rid of weapons and defense systems that the Pentagon doesn't want anymore.

Cut them off. Stop wasting money on them. Spend that money on something that will actually provide an ROI instead of being a black hole.

And there's still the matter of our bases abroad. I fail to see how it would be more expensive for the United States to defend itself without them, seeing as how we spend more for air conditioning in Afghanistan than we do with NASA.

111 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:40:17pm

re: #106 Dark_Falcon

I'd rather cut elsewhere. If that means no manned spaceflight for while, OK. We need the Joint Strike Fighter more than any space program, anyhow.

Says who? The boys at Lockheed? The Air Force brass looking to get a brand new toy? The damned thing's a waste of money and resources that even the boys on Capital Hill who usually can't say no to a defense program are beginning to question if it'll ever enter service and what the eventual price tag will look like.

112 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:41:15pm

re: #110 laZardo

And there's still the matter of our bases abroad. I fail to see how it would be more expensive for the United States to defend itself without them, seeing as how we spend more for air conditioning in Afghanistan than we do with NASA.

Seriously. NASA is small change. It's barely a blip on the radar:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

If you can find it on that map on your first try, I'll be impressed. Cutting NASA is asinine. It barely gets any money and what it contributes is huge.

113 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:41:43pm

re: #110 laZardo

seeing as how we spend more for air conditioning in Afghanistan than we do with NASA.

You've previously blathered on about the wasteful unimportance of NASA projects, yet you say this?

Not buying your concern here. Sounds faked.

114 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:41:45pm

re: #109 Lidane

And the technology for that Joint Strike Fighter came from where, exactly?

Some of it was from the space program, but we have to deal with present day problems right now. I'm all for reforming procurement, but I don't think it will really happen, given the massive amounts of money the pork-eaters spread around. Key members of Congress depend of those campaign contributions to stay in power. Congress won't upset its applecart, so no real change is likely.

115 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:42:00pm

Interesting little write up at Kos

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

I know there isn't enough evidence at this point, but I would bet on it

116 The Yankee  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:42:24pm

The register is saying that the scientist at CERN are hiding facts that prove cosmic rays cause climate change.

[Link: www.theregister.co.uk...]

117 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:44:47pm

re: #111 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Says who? The boys at Lockheed? The Air Force brass looking to get a brand new toy? The damned thing's a waste of money and resources that even the boys on Capital Hill who usually can't say no to a defense program are beginning to question if it'll ever enter service and what the eventual price tag will look like.

The F-16 needs to be replaced in the next decade or two. It's getting long in the tooth and Russia and china are building planes that can outfight it. The key is much better program oversight, but I don't know how that can be done. The incentives for Congress tend to be more about dramatically finding waste that has already happened then wagging their fingers at it. Real oversight is somewhat thankless, and it takes time they see better spent kissing babies and raising money.

118 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:45:31pm

re: #114 Dark_Falcon

Some of it was from the space program, but we have to deal with present day problems right now..

Fine. So kill oil subsidies. Kill farm subsidies. Stop funding all those bloated defense contracts. Killing NASA doesn't do shit to solve "present day problems". It's just a distraction that some neo-Luddites would like to see because they don't want their sacred cows slaughtered.

119 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:46:54pm
120 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:49:06pm

re: #119 JasonA

Image: d160c8f740cad88bd41656f4e5b6b3ec.png

So, what? Our penis is the largest? There is no context there for that bar graph, no indication as to what it represents.

I'm going with the penis thing.

121 Lidane  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:50:25pm

re: #112 Lidane

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

BTW, if you hide mandatory spending, there's still plenty of room to cut defense spending and boost spending on other programs, including NASA.

122 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:50:41pm

Sorry, but it's almost 1am here. I have to sign off for the night.

123 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:51:08pm

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

So, what? Our penis is the largest? There is no context there for that bar graph, no indication as to what it represents.

I'm going with the penis thing.

Penis size is close enough to defense spending. You win.

124 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:51:25pm

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

gwar ticket sales by country

125 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:53:16pm

re: #123 JasonA

re: #124 SpaceJesus

Excellent responses. Both of them made me laugh.

126 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:53:48pm

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth

So, what? Our penis is the largest? There is no context there for that bar graph, no indication as to what it represents.

I'm going with the penis thing.

I've seen that before, at least the numbers. It's supposedly defense spending figures for 2010ish. I don't know that I trust the numbers, and don't know if that includes paying for Iraq & Afghanistan (and now Libya).

127 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:54:45pm

re: #123 JasonA

Penis size is close enough to defense spending. You win.

But know this, if I were female, I would have likely said "breast size".

Now, how would that have fit into a comparison of defense spending?

128 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:55:33pm

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

The F-16 needs to be replaced in the next decade or two. It's getting long in the tooth and Russia and china are building planes that can outfight it. The key is much better program oversight, but I don't know how that can be done. The incentives for Congress tend to be more about dramatically finding waste that has already happened then wagging their fingers at it. Real oversight is somewhat thankless, and it takes time they see better spent kissing babies and raising money.

And which national monument were you planning to sell off to afford the cost of replacing every F-16 in the inventory with an F-35? It's going to end up being like the F-22: Bought in small numbers to replace a few air-wings, with the others either being shut down or forced to soldier on with F-16s.

And note, that's assuming that all of our allies who've expressed interest in the F-35 actually buy in. A couple are getting twitchy, looking at the bird getting less capable in development while at the same time getting more expensive. They may come to the conclusion that the "need" is not that great and go looking elsewhere for cheaper alternatives.

129 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:55:56pm

re: #126 ArchangelMichael

I've seen that before, at least the numbers. It's supposedly defense spending figures for 2010ish. I don't know that I trust the numbers, and don't know if that includes paying for Iraq & Afghanistan (and now Libya).

I guess you think China is spending more then?

130 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:56:21pm

re: #127 Slumbering Behemoth

But know this, if I were female, I would have likely said "breast size".

Now, how would that have fit into a comparison of defense spending?

The point is moot.

131 Alexzander  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:56:49pm

Evening everyone..

132 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:57:24pm

re: #130 JasonA

The point is moot.

I would have thought "Moo", considering the anatomical part referenced.

133 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:57:34pm

re: #128 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And which national monument were you planning to sell off to afford the cost of replacing every F-16 in the inventory with an F-35? It's going to end up being like the F-22: Bought in small numbers to replace a few air-wings, with the others either being shut down or forced to soldier on with F-16s.

And note, that's assuming that all of our allies who've expressed interest in the F-35 actually buy in. A couple are getting twitchy, looking at the bird getting less capable in development while at the same time getting more expensive. They may come to the conclusion that the "need" is not that great and go looking elsewhere for cheaper alternatives.

Gee, I'm starting to think throwing money at problems might not be the best solution seeing how these contracts have been working out lately.

134 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:57:54pm

re: #129 JasonA

I guess you think China is spending more then?

China doesn't really need to spend more, considering that maintaining a conscript army is rather cheap. Most of their costs so far have been in stealing and then reverse-engineering other country's designs before building cheap knock-offs. They've certainly taken the old saying "quantity having a quality all of its own" to its ultimate conclusion.

135 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:58:11pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

I would have thought "Moo", considering the anatomical part referenced.

That's udderly ridiculous.

136 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:58:44pm

re: #134 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

China doesn't really need to spend more, considering that maintaining a conscript army is rather cheap. Most of their costs so far have been in stealing and then reverse-engineering other country's designs before building cheap knock-offs. They've certainly taken the old saying "quantity having a quality all of its own" to its ultimate conclusion.

I wish we could just buy our fighters from them. Save some $$$!

137 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:01:03pm

re: #135 JasonA

And so it begins.

I'm gonna go grab a cold one from the fridge, do keep me abreast of the puns.

138 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:01:57pm

re: #137 Slumbering Behemoth

And so it begins.

I'm gonna go grab a cold one from the fridge, do keep me abreast of the puns.

I agree. We need to steer this conversation elsewhere.

139 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:03:15pm

re: #129 JasonA

I guess you think China is spending more then?

I never said any such thing. I just said I don't know that I trust the numbers accuracy. I don't know the source of the numbers and if it's a legitimate unbiased source, or moonbats. I *know* we spend the most by far.

140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:04:33pm

re: #138 JasonA

I agree. We need to steer this conversation elsewhere.

Tit's a good idea. I have some stupid cow of a neo-luddite down-dinging me for lamenting the death of certain NASA programs.

141 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:05:13pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

Tit's a good idea. I have some stupid cow of a neo-luddite down-dinging me for lamenting the death of certain NASA programs.

It's total bull when some boob does that.

142 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:06:32pm

re: #139 ArchangelMichael

I never said any such thing. I just said I don't know that I trust the numbers accuracy. I don't know the source of the numbers and if it's a legitimate unbiased source, or moonbats. I *know* we spend the most by far.

Ah.

The source is SIPRI

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

143 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:06:54pm

re: #133 JasonA

Gee, I'm starting to think throwing money at problems might not be the best solution seeing how these contracts have been working out lately.

You should know by now, waste at the DoD isn't a bug, it's a feature.

/

144 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:08:30pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

Tit's a good idea. I have some stupid cow of a neo-luddite down-dinging me for lamenting the death of certain NASA programs.

I noticed that. I mean, what the fuck is up with those downdings? That's a load of manure if you ask me...

145 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:09:49pm

re: #143 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You should know by now, waste at the DoD isn't a bug, it's a feature.

/

That sarc tag wasn't really necessary. Not that you weren't being sarcastic, but for a lot of people it's just about dumping some good defense cash into their districts and little else.

146 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:11:21pm

re: #141 ArchangelMichael

It's total bull when some boob does that.

Just some grazing hooter going bazongas.

147 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:12:21pm

re: #145 JasonA

That sarc tag wasn't really necessary. Not that you weren't being sarcastic, but for a lot of people it's just about dumping some good defense cash into their districts and little else.

It's become pretty much second-nature now to go with those tags. Part of me worries if I don't, I'll end up saying the wrong thing and getting somebody into a shouting match.

148 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:13:06pm

re: #147 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

It's become pretty much second-nature now to go with those tags. Part of me worries if I don't, I'll end up saying the wrong thing and getting somebody into a shouting match.

Seems like the loudest shouters have mostly left the herd, though, :-/

149 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:16:33pm

re: #144 JasonA

Trying to milk a bit of its own neo-luddite tit-hurt, if you ask me.

150 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:18:33pm

Okay, I'm done milking this pun. Need to get to bed. Later gators.

151 Alexzander  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:19:50pm

re: #149 Slumbering Behemoth

Trying to milk a bit of its own neo-luddite tit-hurt, if you ask me.

I didn't notice it. Is it in this read/post/whatever its called?

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:22:44pm
153 Alexzander  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:33:28pm

Thread over. Good night everyone.

See you in the morn.

154 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:33:40pm

re: #151 Alexzander

I didn't notice it. Is it in this read/post/whatever its called?

No comment. Literally.

Someone seems to have a bit of grudge against me regarding the topic of NASA. They down ding, but never offer comment in rebuttal.

"Clutch it like a cornerstone"

155 laZardo  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:37:11pm

re: #154 Slumbering Behemoth

That's because you sarcastically repeat my points, essentially. I wouldn't dignify that with a response.

156 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:55:20pm

re: #155 laZardo

That's because you sarcastically repeat my points, essentially. I wouldn't dignify that with a response.

I sarcastically repeat talking points favored by neo-luddites and the religious fundamentalists. It is through no fault of my own that your talking points mirror theirs on this subject.

And I highly doubt you refuse to respond from a sense of dignity. I suspect it's more accurate to say that you have no adequate response to justify your luddism on this subject.

157 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:12:28am

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

Space is going to belong to private firms for a time. There remains a place for NASA personnel up there, but we've got to get our fiscal house in order first. After that, we can think about big ticket non-defense programs again.

In 2007, the US spent 16.143 billion on NASA, and 652.5 billion on the military. NASA is not, and never was, a "big ticket" program. We spend more than 40 times NASA's budget on the military, and nearly 100 times NASA's budget on social programs. To reference NASA as a significant contributor to the debt is laughably ignorant. The ROI of NASA spending in terms of technological advancement (not to mention jobs), however, is huge.

It's a shame this argument keeps getting trotted out by extremists, given it has so little basis in reality.

158 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:16:59am

re: #157 Fozzie Bear

It's doubly shameful that such a baseless argument has prevailed in the public debate. How far we have fallen.

God bless the late, great, US of A. We are much diminished, a shadow of our former glory, laid low by idiots and ideologues, fed on a steady diet of lies, obfuscation, and bullshit.

159 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:19:32am

re: #157 Fozzie Bear

and, of course, the whole idea of "getting our fiscal house in order" will disappear like a fever dream once social security, medicare and medicaid have been satisfactoraly gutted

160 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:23:17am

...altho i must admit that during a heated debate on a right wing blog i once spelled it 'medicade', instantly launching a refeshing beverage that tastes like a large bureaucracy with significant cost overruns

161 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:28:22am

re: #160 engineer dog

Well the thing that makes medicade so delicious is you are legally prohibited from negotiating over the price, and you must pay full retail even if buying in bulk. But people never complain about that.

They just complain that people keep wanting give it to those dying of thirst.

I suppose I should find it ironic that the richest country in the history of the world is fighting over scraps, but the irony is somewhat lost on me. All I see is the tragedy of hubris and greed devastating one of the greatest nations the world has ever known. I suppose I should count myself lucky I got to see her in the height of her glory.

Interesting times, indeed.

162 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:28:48am

re: #87 EiMitch

In 2004, GWAR released War Party, an album devoted almost entirely to mocking the war on terror. In other words, a big eff-you to right-wingers at the time. Not to mention their usual barrage of gratuitous violence, ridiculously gross sex, and ruthless mockery of religion.

What the hell were they doing on Fox in the first place? GWAR's music and stage acts are the embodiment of everything that Fox's target audience fears and despises. This could not have ended any other way.

I find that Rush Limbaugh and a number of other conservatives often have reasonable taste in music. I assume it is only because they do not listen too closely to it. why else would Rush's intro be a the riff from a song condemning American urban sprawl?

163 Alexzander  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:29:45am

lulz

164 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:35:14am

hearing about the sad state of our space program i think about all that space exploration science fiction that inspired me so much when i was a kid in the 60s now that history will be forced to record that in the early 21st century the united states of america lost its interest in man's quest to explore the universe

captain kirk we have failed you

165 Summer Seale  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:35:51am

Good morning, Lizards. =)

I just saw that Charles was going to update to Lion OS X and, since I got it about two hours after it released (yesterday afternoon for me), I just want to tell any Mac users that so far: I love it.

It's clear that Apple is going the tactile route with iPad interfaces etc. I really like the way they blended both into this latest system. It definitely is the biggest set of changes in the basic interface in one step since any other implementation of OS X.

So far, really nice. =) Works well on my beautiful (and still new) MacBook Pro. =)

It installed flawlessly. The hard drive spun a lot for about 10 mins the first time I logged in after installing it of course, but then it calmed down to normal levels (I expect it was still configuring lots of stuff, moving things around, rebuilding indexes etc....). Now it works as fast as ever and as smoothly as ever.

Just had to give everyone an update. I was talking about it on Google+ yesterday of course, but a lot of you aren't on that. =)

But, if you want an invite, lemme know your email and I'll send one over to you. =) It's kinda like a blend between Facebook and Twitter, and I like it a lot.

Anyway, just had to update you all in case you were wondering about this whole Lion OS X thing. It pretty much rocks so far for me. =)

166 Alexzander  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:41:04am

re: #164 engineer dog

hearing about the sad state of our space program i think about all that space exploration science fiction that inspired me so much when i was a kid in the 60s now that history will be forced to record that in the early 21st century the united states of america lost its interest in man's quest to explore the universe

captain kirk we have failed you

When I was 12 I was told by my science teacher that my generation would likely go to Mars.

167 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:46:48am

Ok well, i'm in Opposite Land today because I ended up agreeing not only with stupid F'd News Red Eye, but Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptist Convention.

He released a serious smackdown of Herman Cain's moozlum- and mormon-baiting.

Of course if it's just a version of "no black is gonna tell southern white baptists who they should vote for" obviously I can't go along with it, but still. Can't say I expected that one.

168 hexag1  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:53:41am

Good for Fox.
If FOX had a Southern Pride country band that beheaded an effigy of

Obama, I would expect them to be kicked off the air too.

Fox made the right decision in the end.

The question now is, how did Fox book GWAR in the first place?

169 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:57:42am

re: #168 hexag1

Good for Fox.
If FOX had a Southern Pride country band that beheaded an effigy of

Obama, I would expect them to be kicked off the air too.

Fox made the right decision in the end.

The question now is, how did Fox book GWAR in the first place?


Remember Ted Nugent brandishing his machine gun and telling Obama and Hillary to suck on it. Their decision was entirely subjective and partisan, which is their prerogative, as it is their right to call themselves "fair and balanced".

Just like I can cally myself "attractive and dynamic". Now It's time for me to put on another pair of jogging trousers (the ones without the permanently caked-in nacho stains) open another bag of chips and watch another six hours of reruns.

170 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 1:08:08am

re: #168 hexag1

Good for Fox.
If FOX had a Southern Pride country band that beheaded an effigy of

Obama, I would expect them to be kicked off the air too.

Fox made the right decision in the end.

The question now is, how did Fox book GWAR in the first place?

Well, GWAR already preformed an effigy beheading of Obama in 2008, which apparently was not an issue with FNC or it's viewers.

It's the Palin effigy thing two years later that seemed to be an issue for FNC and it's viewers.

So this is much less a "Good For Them" incident, and much more a "Shit-Eating, Bug-Fucking, Hypocritical, Double-Standard Having" incident for Fox News.

171 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 1:18:46am

re: #168 hexag1

The question now is, how did Fox book GWAR in the first place?

A good question, which has puzzled me this evening.

Yet it appears the answer to the question "How did Fox book GWAR in the first place?" is...

By asking Urungus to appear. Several times, over the course of a year or more.

Yeah, I still can't get my head around it either.

172 Raccoon City  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 1:38:32am

re: #171 Slumbering Behemoth

A good question, which has puzzled me this evening.

Yet it appears the answer to the question "How did Fox book GWAR in the first place?" is...

By asking Urungus to appear. Several times, over the course of a year or more.

Somebody on staff had the (probably correct) idea that nobody in fox news management had any idea who GWAR was and decided to see how far they could take the insane idea that someone from GWAR would actually accept an invitation to appear anywhere on fox news. Successful troll was successful.

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 1:42:06am

re: #172 Raccoon City

Somebody on staff had the (probably correct) idea that nobody in fox news management had any idea who GWAR was and decided to see how far they could take the insane idea that someone from GWAR would actually accept an invitation to appear anywhere on fox news

Multiple. Times. At least once a month in one year, with a few extra appearances for good measure.

174 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 1:44:01am

re: #172 Raccoon City

Successful troll was successful.

The entirety of FNC programing, in a nutshell.

175 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 1:48:14am

And this is how film studios preformed "end around" on the MPAA when it was conceived.

176 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 1:55:08am

re: #168 hexag1

Fox made the right decision in the end.

Right decision, wrong reasons, I suppose.

177 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:13:04am

re: #172 Raccoon City

Raccoon, are you familiar with the handle/nic "Gagdad Bob"?

178 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:30:44am

Don't forgot! FINAL SHUTTLE LANDING. Touchdown at KSC in 27 minutes. Live NASA feed.

179 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:32:22am

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

Don't forgot! FINAL SHUTTLE LANDING. Touchdown at KSC in 27 minutes. Live NASA feed.

It's coming down over the middle of the state, so no "boom boom" for me.
And morning Honcos.

181 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:41:45am

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel

Don't forgot!

It's early here.

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:51:39am
183 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:52:18am

Billionaire Lebedev Interested in Remaking News of the World

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

184 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:55:40am

Boom boom! Shuttle's signature sonic booms just heard for the last time. 3 minutes to touchdown.

185 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:56:21am

re: #184 Shiplord Kirel

Boom boom! Shuttle's signature sonic booms just heard for the last time. 3 minutes to touchdown.

I think I just heard it. Not loud, but not thunder either.

186 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:58:38am

Touchdown! It's over.

187 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 2:58:39am

If Fozzie Bear was awake, he heard it.

188 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:03:40am

Police apologize for shutting down lemonade stand. D'oh!!
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

189 freetoken  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:07:55am

re: #186 Shiplord Kirel

Touchdown! It's over.

Yeah, I just missed it (livestream caught just too late).

Anyway, sort of a sad moment. I remember watching the first shuttle launch - I was younger then.

The Shuttle program was quite an achievement... but it was also very expensive. No wonder that several administrations in a row didn't lobby for an immediate replacement.

190 researchok  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:29:56am

Morning, all

191 researchok  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:30:49am

WB to the AM lineup, FT!

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:32:01am

re: #191 researchok

WB to the AM lineup, FT!

?

193 researchok  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:33:15am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

?

He was off for a couple of days.

I missed my morning music fix.

He got me hooked.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:35:05am

re: #193 researchok

He was off for a couple of days.

I missed my morning music fix.

He got me hooked.

I need to start reading from the end of the sentence first.:)

195 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:53:59am

"GWAR and Pieces."

196 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:55:08am

Good Morning Honcos!

197 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:57:26am

Mornin' kids...last day here in Atlanta. One of my colleagues is getting me a jug of homemade moonshine to take home...I'm very happy about that, though it does mean I'll have to check my bag.

198 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 3:59:19am

re: #197 darthstar

Mornin' kids...last day here in Atlanta. One of my colleagues is getting me a jug of homemade moonshine to take home...I'm very happy about that, though it does mean I'll have to check my bag.

There are a couple different kinds of moonshine made these days. One is about 80 proof. Make sure you get the "OMG I'M BLIND!!" kind.

199 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:03:14am

re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar

There are a couple different kinds of moonshine made these days. One is about 80 proof. Make sure you get the "OMG I'M BLIND!!" kind.

That's what I want.

200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:03:46am

Look at the bright side, Oderus. Your band still sucks.

201 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:03:50am

re: #199 darthstar

That's what I want.

Is it apple flavored?

202 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:04:47am

re: #201 Cannadian Club Akbar

Is it apple flavored?

I'll let you know (good thing I'm a touch typist)

203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:09:15am

re: #201 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tasted some "apple pie" moonshine the other day. Tasty!

204 Crimsonfisted  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:11:05am

OT
Boom boom goes the twin sonic sound when the shuttle re-enters! All is safe.

205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:13:54am

re: #204 Crimsonfisted

OT
Boom boom goes the twin sonic sound when the shuttle re-enters! All is safe.

Now what?

206 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:14:44am

re: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now what?

Now it sits on blocks next to a 64 Rambler and a 12 aluminum fishing boat.

207 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:15:25am

re: #206 darthstar

Now it sits on blocks next to a 64 Rambler and a 12 foot aluminum fishing boat.

PIMF

208 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:15:29am

re: #206 darthstar

Now it sits on blocks next to a 64 Rambler and a 12 aluminum fishing boat.

I had to recycle the aluminum boat to buy moonshine, sorry.

209 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:16:45am

Fuck I'm tired...how much did I drink last night?

210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:16:48am

re: #206 darthstar

Now it sits on blocks next to a 64 Rambler and a 12 aluminum fishing boat.

In 50 years it'll be a taxi in Havana.

211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:17:27am

re: #209 darthstar

Not enough if you're up this early.

212 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:19:53am

re: #210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In 50 years it'll be a taxi in Havana.

Or rolling down the street in Southern California with 14 inch rims, hydraulic lift kit, and the cargo doors open and fully chromed showing off the two dozen 36 inch speakers and thumping out some music.

213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:20:38am

Holy shit! Y'all see that leopard attack in India?

Our Cat Overlords are getting hungry.

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:21:18am

re: #213 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy shit! Y'all see that leopard attack in India?

Our Cat Overlords are getting hungry.

I always root for the animal in these circumstances.

215 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:22:52am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

I always root for the animal in these circumstances.

216 Crimsonfisted  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:23:31am

Ire: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now what?


I don't know but I will miss watching it launch and the boom- boom of its return.

217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:24:25am

re: #216 Crimsonfisted

I


I don't know but I will miss watching it launch and the boom- boom of its return.

Freddie "Boom Boom" Washington? You miss him?

218 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:24:54am

re: #215 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Video]

Taken back to the forest...Yay!

219 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:26:38am

Man, the latest FF build blows ass.

220 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:28:23am

re: #219 Obdicut

Man, the latest FF build blows ass.

FF5?

221 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:28:51am

re: #219 Obdicut

Man, the latest FF build blows ass.

Stop upgrading. Stick with 3.6 until someone from a geek site says FF 5 or 4224.4 is stable...

222 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:30:11am

re: #221 darthstar

Stop upgrading. Stick with 3.6 until someone from a geek site says FF 5 or 4224.4 is stable...

I couldn't fill out some paperwork this AM using FF5. Used IE instead.

223 Crimsonfisted  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:30:17am

re: #217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Freddie "Boom Boom" Washington? You miss him?

What is sad is I am old enough to get the reference! I should be saying "Who? What? I don't get it." But I do.

224 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:32:08am

re: #222 Cannadian Club Akbar

I couldn't fill out some paperwork this AM using FF5. Used IE instead.

I'm still on 3.6.18 Don't intend to upgrade until I see most of my colleagues happily using a newer version.

225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:32:17am

re: #223 Crimsonfisted

Wasn't sure whether you did or not. I will still put on my Freddie "Boom Boom" Washington voice when I'm saying "Hi there" to a pretty girl.

226 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:34:31am

re: #224 darthstar

I'm still on 3.6.18 Don't intend to upgrade until I see most of my colleagues happily using a newer version.

I had a problem with 3.6 but IE ran fine, so I upgraded to FF5.

227 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:36:34am

re: #223 Crimsonfisted

What is sad is I am old enough to get the reference! I should be saying "Who? What? I don't get it." But I do.

I was more of a Horseshack fan.

228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:44:41am

re: #227 darthstar

I had an "Ooh!Ooh!" t-shirt.

229 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:46:05am

Aw, fuck it...time to get ready for work.
Laters.

230 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 4:46:26am

Going for a walk. bbiab

231 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:21:05am

Morning Lizardim. The heat wave has broken here in the wild north country. Now if someone would PLEASE tell my company that that doesn't mean they can turn off the air conditioning.

232 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:26:49am

re: #231 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. The heat wave has broken here in the wild north country. Now if someone would PLEASE tell my company that that doesn't mean they can turn off the air conditioning.

Done. They also said to take the rest of the day off, and to grab whatever office equipment you like on your way out.

233 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:30:03am

Good morning honcos.

I decided to take a day off work and go to Florida for my grandson's bris, but my son doesn't know if it is going to be on time, so, that's a problem.

234 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:47:57am

re: #231 thedopefishlives

re: #232 Obdicut

Done. They also said to take the rest of the day off, and to grab whatever office equipment you like on your way out.

As well as the petty cash box!

235 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:49:34am

re: #231 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. The heat wave has broken here in the wild north country. Now if someone would PLEASE tell my company that that doesn't mean they can turn off the air conditioning.

Come work where I am


With all the electrical equipment in the buildings, our a/c units are cranked 24/7/365

We keep the control room at 69-72 degrees ALWAYS.

236 kirkspencer  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:49:44am

re: #234 sattv4u2

re: #232 Obdicut

As well as the petty cash box!

Sorry, that left the building last night.

237 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:50:27am

re: #236 kirkspencer

Sorry, that left the building last night.

unescorted?

238 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:51:38am

re: #226 Cannadian Club Akbar

got your note

any idea when you'll hear one way or another?

239 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:53:07am

An Indiana couple is facing public indecency charges after they allegedly had sex for 30 minutes Sunday afternoon in a community pool while dozens of witnesses, including children, watched the illicit aquatic action

[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]

Ah,, to be young and in shape

30 minutes????,,, for me, that would include dinner before and cuddling after!!

240 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:55:00am

re: #238 sattv4u2

got your note

any idea when you'll hear one way or another?

today or tomorrow.

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:55:48am

re: #239 sattv4u2

"Outraged spectators had to endure the shocking spectacle for whole 30 minutes."

/

242 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:56:04am

re: #240 Cannadian Club Akbar

today or tomorrow.

everything's crossed

(although, it is hard to type and see the comments with my eyes that way!)

243 kirkspencer  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:56:12am

re: #237 sattv4u2

unescorted?

Oh, somebody went with it.

244 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:56:24am

re: #241 Sergey Romanov

"Outraged spectators had to endure the shocking spectacle for whole 30 minutes."

/

"Martha,,, get the video camera!!"

245 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:57:02am

re: #244 sattv4u2

"Yes, John, we need to record the ... evidence. Yes, the evidence."

246 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:58:25am

re: #245 Sergey Romanov

"Yes, John, we need to record the ... evidence. Yes, the evidence."

Pool manager Cindy Schwab told cops that she walked up behind Helms and Cross “when she realized what they were doing,
Schwab said that Cross moved away from Helms, which was when “she could see the male’s penis.”

Obviously, the man was no George Costanza!!

247 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:59:29am

re: #246 sattv4u2

Pool manager Cindy Schwab told cops that she walked up behind Helms and Cross “when she realized what they were doing,
Schwab said that Cross moved away from Helms, which was when “she could see the male’s penis.”

Obviously, the man was no George Costanza!!

I'm just glad she didn't see the female's penis.
/

248 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 5:59:51am

re: #247 Cannadian Club Akbar

Congratulations, you win the thread.

249 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:00:39am

Do you know why you can't have sex on the Red Square? You'll get tired of all the advice.

250 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:07:31am

re: #248 thedopefishlives

Congratulations, you win the thread.

thats great,, but the petty cash box is already gone!!

251 Ericus58  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:09:51am

re: #111 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Says who? The boys at Lockheed? The Air Force brass looking to get a brand new toy? The damned thing's a waste of money and resources that even the boys on Capital Hill who usually can't say no to a defense program are beginning to question if it'll ever enter service and what the eventual price tag will look like.

Throughout the history of aerial combat, the successful strategy has always been to have two "fighter" types; one for air superiority and one for attack.
Sometimes, the same aircraft is configured to fulfill one role while others of the same type fulfill the other - but the combination of both roles on one aircraft is not optimal, it requires the sacrifice of capabilities from both roles.
And in the requirements for carrier-based or Marine (VTOL) operations, you've now added a third role.

The JSF program just might be one where too many mission requirements are being placed on one airframe.

252 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:12:22am

re: #251 Ericus58

Throughout the history of aerial combat, the successful strategy has always been to have two "fighter" types; one for air superiority and one for attack.
Sometimes, the same aircraft is configured to fulfill one role while others of the same type fulfill the other - but the combination of both roles on one aircraft is not optimal, it requires the sacrifice of capabilities from both roles.
And in the requirements for carrier-based or Marine (VTOL) operations, you've now added a third role.

The JSF program just might be one where too many mission requirements are being placed on one airframe.

All that being said, the F/A-18 is probably the best example of what happens when the designers get everything right. It's been America's premier strike plane since its introduction, and a modified variant even replaced the F-freakin'-14, for crying out loud. Granted, it doesn't really suit the Air Force's requirements all that well, but as a versatile all-in-one design, it suits the Navy just fine.

253 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:13:04am

re: #247 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, that would have been a trap.

254 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:16:03am

Evening folks. Had my thesis defense a couple hours ago.

Out of a possible score of 4.0 (we use the GPA number equivalent of the letters), and with the "average" passing grade of this grilling being 1.4-1.8, I escaped with a 2.266.

This was what I came up with.

255 Ericus58  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:16:24am

re: #233 Alouette

Good morning honcos.

I decided to take a day off work and go to Florida for my grandson's bris, but my son doesn't know if it is going to be on time, so, that's a problem.

What is the latest on the precious child?

256 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:17:10am

re: #254 laZardo

Evening folks. Had my thesis defense a couple hours ago.

Out of a possible score of 4.0 (we use the GPA number equivalent of the letters), and with the "average" passing grade of this grilling being 1.4-1.8, I escaped with a 2.266.

This was what I came up with.

Congratulations on your success.

257 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:18:42am

re: #254 laZardo

Evening folks. Had my thesis defense a couple hours ago.

Out of a possible score of 4.0 (we use the GPA number equivalent of the letters), and with the "average" passing grade of this grilling being 1.4-1.8, I escaped with a 2.266.

This was what I came up with.

WHHOOOO HOOOO

ParTAY!

258 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:19:25am

re: #256 thedopefishlives

To me, 2.2/4.0 is not a success.

But thanks anyway. *^-^*

259 garhighway  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:22:36am

re: #254 laZardo

Evening folks. Had my thesis defense a couple hours ago.

Out of a possible score of 4.0 (we use the GPA number equivalent of the letters), and with the "average" passing grade of this grilling being 1.4-1.8, I escaped with a 2.266.

This was what I came up with.

Cool design.

260 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:25:02am

re: #258 laZardo

To me, 2.2/4.0 is not a success.

But thanks anyway. *^-^*

At 1st glance, I would think/say the same, But it's well above the "average"

better indicator,, do you know where does the 2.2 put you percentile wise?

(i.e.,,, is that grade in the top 10%tile ,,,, 20%tile?? ect)

261 Ericus58  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:25:32am

re: #252 thedopefishlives

All that being said, the F/A-18 is probably the best example of what happens when the designers get everything right. It's been America's premier strike plane since its introduction, and a modified variant even replaced the F-freakin'-14, for crying out loud. Granted, it doesn't really suit the Air Force's requirements all that well, but as a versatile all-in-one design, it suits the Navy just fine.

Indeed - the Super Hornet has become one hell of a platform - even replacing the Growler.

262 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:25:35am
263 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:27:06am

re: #259 garhighway

Cool design.

Thanks. I'm going to iron out the rest of the design bits while I'm in Seattle from next week to October-ish then have the final book published before graduation which is around Halloween.

The idea sprung out of my infamous cynicism, really. I'd imagine this is the "base" for a type of cleanup vehicle that would be used for high tides in a post-AGW world.

264 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:28:23am

re: #262 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't support what this guy did, but I think it's funny.

He said he's prepared to face whatever penalty comes his way.

"I'm stuck with it now," he said. "But I got my point across."

BEST COMMENT!!!

if the point you were trying to get across was "i love jail"...well then sir...consider that a successful job well done.

265 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:32:02am

re: #264 sattv4u2

He said he's prepared to face whatever penalty comes his way.

"I'm stuck with it now," he said. "But I got my point across."

BEST COMMENT!!!

if the point you were trying to get across was "i love jail"...well then sir...consider that a successful job well done.

When he gets out, I hope he goes back to the same dealer to buy another car...Yes, I'd like to negotiate on that rare Mustang...has it been in an accident recently? No? You don't say...

266 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:33:51am

re: #262 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don't support what this guy did, but I think it's funny.

This is the point of those cheesy Carfax commercials. Yes, the car dealer was sleazy and probably would've refused to give him one; but that should be a red flag in and of itself. I don't think the victim was treated fairly, but he certainly should've been more aware of what he was doing when he was buying.

267 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:34:08am

re: #260 sattv4u2

At 1st glance, I would think/say the same, But it's well above the "average"

better indicator,, do you know where does the 2.2 put you percentile wise?

(i.e.,,, is that grade in the top 10%tile ,,, 20%tile?? ect)

"Passing" in this country is 1.0, which corresponds to 75%.

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:35:59am

re: #267 laZardo

"Passing" in this country is 1.0, which corresponds to 75%.

So, 1.0=75%
You got 2.266. So around 185%?
Quit bitching!!!
// J/K, good on you...

269 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:36:04am

re: #231 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. The heat wave has broken here in the wild north country. Now if someone would PLEASE tell my company that that doesn't mean they can turn off the air conditioning.

We had that in Frankfurt last week: temps fell by nearly 20°F in a matter of minutes, but it was still just as unpleasant as it was before, less hot but even more muggy.

270 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:38:43am

re: #265 darthstar

When he gets out, I hope he goes back to the same dealer to buy another car...Yes, I'd like to negotiate on that rare Mustang...has it been in an accident recently? No? You don't say...

Yeah, the part that didn't make sense to me,

iirc (just scanned the story) he bashed into 7 vehicles,, one of which was a "rare Mustang',, but the damages were only 20K!?!?!?!

271 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:39:33am

re: #270 sattv4u2

Yeah, the part that didn't make sense to me,

iirc (just scanned the story) he bashed into 7 vehicles,, one of which was a "rare Mustang',, but the damages were only 20K!?!?!?!

No. None of the cars he hit were UNDER 20K. And the 7th vehicle was his.

272 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:40:32am

re: #271 Cannadian Club Akbar

A Portsmouth Used Car Superstore manager, who asked not to be named, declined to comment, but when pressed, estimated the damage caused by Cross to be about $20,000.

"That sounds about right," Cross said when the Herald relayed the estimate.

273 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:40:39am

re: #271 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. None of the cars he hit were UNDER 20K. And the 7th vehicle was his.



A Portsmouth Used Car Superstore manager, who asked not to be named, declined to comment, but when pressed, estimated the damage caused by Cross to be about $20,000.

274 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:40:58am

re: #265 darthstar

When he gets out, I hope he goes back to the same dealer to buy another car...Yes, I'd like to negotiate on that rare Mustang...has it been in an accident recently? No? You don't say...

He should apply to become a valet.
"Think you can park this"?
"I'll make a spot".

275 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:41:54am

re: #270 sattv4u2

Yeah, the part that didn't make sense to me,

iirc (just scanned the story) he bashed into 7 vehicles,, one of which was a "rare Mustang',, but the damages were only 20K!?!?!?!

Because the cars weren't totaled. The repairs would likely be superficial at best.

276 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:42:20am

re: #271 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. None of the cars he hit were UNDER 20K. And the 7th vehicle was his.

But he wasn't very smart if he only did 20k in damage. Hitting the door frame would have been worth another 3-4k per vehicle. Fenders can get replaced, but the cage would have to be cut and repaired and the car possibly totaled.

277 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:42:24am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

He should apply to become a valet.
"Think you can park this"?
"I'll make a spot".

"I'll just put it on top of that rare Mustang"

278 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:42:37am

re: #272 Sergey Romanov

re: #273 sattv4u2

"I hit the first $25,000 car I could see," Cross told the Herald. "I didn't hit a car under $20,000. Then I moved a van that they wouldn't come down on the price for. I moved it with the lemon they sold me. I just held it to the floor until I couldn't move it anymore. I took out seven vehicles, including my own."

Sorry. I started laughing here.:)

279 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:44:06am

re: #278 Cannadian Club Akbar

If the car you use can only inflict 20k in damages, then you really did get sold a lemon.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:44:18am
281 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:45:12am

re: #275 thedopefishlives

Because the cars weren't totaled. The repairs would likely be superficial at best.



The manager said the cars Cross crashed into included a Mercedes and a special edition Mustang

Even a nick on those is thousands to repair

Then I moved a van that they wouldn't come down on the price for. I moved it with the lemon they sold me. I just held it to the floor until I couldn't move it anymore

Takes a bit of force to "move" a van "until it couldn't move anymore"

282 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:48:05am
283 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:49:30am

re: #280 Cannadian Club Akbar

Car mover.

Car mover

[Link: behindblondiepark.com...]

284 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:50:53am

re: #255 Ericus58

What is the latest on the precious child?

He is being evaluated for microtia, which is a condition where the external ear and ear canal are incompletely developed. This can totally be corrected by surgery and complete hearing restored, but as you can well understand my son is pretty freaked out about it. The baby is perfectly healthy and normal in every other respect and I want to see PICTURES but I guess they can't send any while the infant is still being evaluated.

My daughter-in-law is recovering from a C-section. I talked to her yesterday and she sounded exhausted, my son too as he did not sleep all Tuesday night.

I really want to go to Florida for the bris, the question is just they don't know yet if it will take place on time (the 8th day) or be postponed.

285 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:53:52am

re: #282 laZardo

Did Douglas Adams get it wrong?

Why not 36, since they're diving and multiplying it?

Hell, since they divide by 2.5 at one point, why not 28.8 as the magic number?

14.4? 7.2? 3.1? Hey, that's the start of Pi.

The new magic number is 3.1

286 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:53:58am

re: #283 sattv4u2

Car mover

[Link: behindblondiepark.com...]

Import.
/
Image: 0022191004340a9607d200.jpg

287 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:54:16am

re: #284 Alouette

I'm glad that mom and baby are doing well other than for the ear issue. Everyone should be thankful that the condition is completely treatable.

288 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:55:17am

re: #285 Obdicut

Doug Adams isn't wrong. 42 is still the number to everything. 72 only answers a few economics related subjects, but only after engaging in some math wizardry.

289 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:56:16am

re: #284 Alouette

The kid should take up boxing, it won't matter if he gets a cauliflower ear.

And then he can join the ranks of the great Jewish Boxers.


[Link: www.boxingscene.com...]

290 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:57:00am

Morning all!

Anything exciting happen in the night?

291 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:57:41am

re: #284 Alouette

Prayers for a quick safe procedure

Sonny Satty had top have his three tear ducts (upper and lower right,, upper left) cleared of blockages and one "installed" ( lower left) shortly after birth

292 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:59:14am

re: #291 sattv4u2

Prayers for a quick safe procedure

Sonny Satty had top have his three tear ducts (upper and lower right,, upper left) cleared of blockages and one "installed" ( lower left) shortly after birth

It's so cool that these things can be diagnosed and dealt with!!!!!!

293 Ericus58  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:05:42am

re: #284 Alouette

I'm very happy to read that, and continue to hope all turns out well.
Congratulations to your family.

Now, about those special edition cupcakes commemorating a child's birth we here at LGF are looking forward to.... can i haz red velvet?!

294 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:05:47am

What is it?:

The More repressed, the more perverted? Brought to you from The Pages.

295 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:06:01am

re: #293 Ericus58

I'm very happy to read that, and continue to hope all turns out well.
Congratulations to your family.

Now, about those special edition cupcakes commemorating a child's birth we here at LGF are looking forward to... can i haz red velvet?!

Oreo!

296 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:06:50am

Update on the continuing nonsense from "derp in the heart of Texas."

Huffpo: Texas to Revisit Evolution Debate Under New Conservative Chairwoman

One group, Texans for a Better Science Education, has put out a call to pack Thursday's public hearing with testimony urging board members to adopt materials that question Charles Darwin's theory on the origin of life. A vote is scheduled Friday.


"Better," in this case, meaning "ridiculous."

I'd call them dumber than a bag of rocks, but no doubt they'd think I meant that rocks must be really, really smart.

297 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:09:55am

re: #292 ggt

It's so cool that these things can be diagnosed and dealt with!!!

he wopuld wake up with so much "crust" around his eyes, he literally coudn't open the lids. We had to take warm/wet compresses to clear the crust out

The ducts were so blocked (and one missing) that they weren't draining properly

298 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:10:10am

Teach the Controversy --sure, just not in a Science class because the "controversy" is not about empiricism, it is about faith.

/gah

299 Ericus58  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:11:32am

Well, my son's story at birth was club feet, both turned inwards and the soles facing backwards. On a scale of 1-10... he was a 10 in severity.

But after several operations and spending his first two years having his legs in casts, he has enjoyed near normal use. Good enough to play competitive hockey for 12 years and become an officer in the US Army.

We live in wondrous times concerning research and medical procedures.

300 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:11:39am

re: #297 sattv4u2

he wopuld wake up with so much "crust" around his eyes, he literally coudn't open the lids. We had to take warm/wet compresses to clear the crust out

The ducts were so blocked (and one missing) that they weren't draining properly

I feel for Alouette's family and am thankful yours is over the surgery part and all has healed.

I couldn't imagine sitting in the waiting room while my infant was in surgery. I'd have to be medicated --the anxiety would be so great.

301 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:13:18am

re: #300 ggt

I feel for Alouette's family and am thankful yours is over the surgery part and all has healed.

I couldn't imagine sitting in the waiting room while my infant was in surgery. I'd have to be medicated --the anxiety would be so great.

THE most harrowing part (in our minds) was that the procedure was all around his eyes

302 Ericus58  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:13:18am

re: #297 sattv4u2

he wopuld wake up with so much "crust" around his eyes, he literally coudn't open the lids. We had to take warm/wet compresses to clear the crust out

The ducts were so blocked (and one missing) that they weren't draining properly

I can only imagine the anxiety and sadness those mornings would bring.
Glad to hear all turned well, Satt

303 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:15:42am

re: #301 sattv4u2

THE most harrowing part (in our minds) was that the procedure was all around his eyes

oooh, I KNOW!

gives me the willies all across the intertubes!

HOw do you stand it?

304 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:15:52am

re: #302 Ericus58

I can only imagine the anxiety and sadness those mornings would bring.
Glad to hear all turned well, Satt

And yours!!

305 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:17:46am

re: #296 BongCrodny

Update on the continuing nonsense from "derp in the heart of Texas."

Huffpo: Texas to Revisit Evolution Debate Under New Conservative Chairwoman

"Better," in this case, meaning "ridiculous."

I'd call them dumber than a bag of rocks, but no doubt they'd think I meant that rocks must be really, really smart.

I for one am glad I had my education early in life and learned the truth in how we humans "evolved". We were brought to Earth by the great Xenu in DC-8 like aircraft.

//This must be taught in science class!

//

306 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:17:56am

re: #285 Obdicut

why not 28.8 as the magic number?


You're so very, very close.

The true magic number is 28.3.

It's, um, the number of grams in an ounce.

307 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:18:20am

My son at 15 had surgery to repair a broken bone and it went an hour over the expected time. They didn't come and tell me anything.

I thought I was going to implode in the waiting room.

Then the idea of my son waking up in recovery and his finding his mom was admitted . . .the anxiety provoked such horrible thoughts, it was truly a horrible hour.

308 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:18:56am

re: #305 Gus 802

I for one am glad I had my education early in life and learned the truth in how we humans "evolved". We were brought to Earth by the great Xenu in DC-8 like aircraft.

//This must be taught in science class!

//

You know, let's just go back to the stork story and be done with it.

309 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:19:45am

re: #305 Gus 802

Yeah, and what's with the so-called science telling abou about 14 bn. y.o. Universe? We know from OTIII scripture it is at least several trillions y.o.! Teach the controversy!

310 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:20:14am

Didn't find out till he was going into kindergarten that he did have a eye "problem" One of the cones didn't fully develop. For a year he wore a patch over the "good" eye forcing the other to strengthen by doing all the work

He does wear glasses (he's 17 now) but the anxiety back then was that the surgeries he had as an infant MUST HAVE (in our minds) caused the eye problem. Upon further research and multiple specialists telling us otherwise, we came to the realization that the two problems were unrelated

311 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:22:26am

re: #305 Gus 802

I for one am glad I had my education early in life and learned the truth in how we humans "evolved". We were brought to Earth by the great Xenu in DC-8 like aircraft.

//This must be taught in science class!

//

DC-8?

Pffft. I got here in an MD-80.

///

312 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:23:12am

re: #309 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, and what's with the so-called science telling abou about 14 bn. y.o. Universe? We know from OTIII scripture it is at least several trillions y.o.! Teach the controversy!

Now I have and idea. Pack the Texas BOE hearings and demand that this be taught in science class!

313 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:23:56am

bbiab,, switching puters

314 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:24:37am

re: #312 Gus 802

While scn will get no traction, Hindu creationism should!

315 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:25:41am

re: #307 ggt

My son at 15 had surgery to repair a broken bone and it went an hour over the expected time. They didn't come and tell me anything.

I thought I was going to implode in the waiting room.

Then the idea of my son waking up in recovery and his finding his mom was admitted . . .the anxiety provoked such horrible thoughts, it was truly a horrible hour.

I know what you mean! My daughter at age 9 had surgery to remove a growth in the bone of her skull at I thought I would die of anxiety waiting to hear how it went. There's nothing like something serious going on with your kid to drive you batty.

316 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:25:43am

The puppy is now big enough to overturn is bucket of toys (which is fun in itself) and carry it around, bang it into the wall, then chew on it (instead of the toys).

317 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:26:04am

re: #313 sattv4u2

bbiab,, switching puters

Use the titanium one. The ball doesn't curve as much when it gets closer to the hole.

318 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:26:39am

re: #315 reine.de.tout

I know what you mean! My daughter at age 9 had surgery to remove a growth in the bone of her skull at I thought I would die of anxiety waiting to hear how it went. There's nothing like something serious going on with your kid to drive you batty.

Being under general anesthesia is the scariest thing in the world to me. I'm glad they avoid it when possible now, doing nerve blocks etc.

319 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:27:26am

re: #316 ggt

The puppy is now big enough to overturn is bucket of toys (which is fun in itself) and carry it around, bang it into the wall, then chew on it (instead of the toys).

heh

reminds me of when sonny satty would get expensive toys and be happier playing with the box/ wrapping it came in!!

320 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:28:10am

re: #314 Sergey Romanov

While scn will get no traction, Hindu creationism should!

We demand all of the above! That would please the slacker students. It would be nothing but ghost stories in science class. ;)

Hey. At the very least the Texas BOE is violating the 1st Amendment. If it's a public school then they have to teach the religious theories from ALL religions. In science class. //

321 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:28:28am

re: #319 sattv4u2

heh

reminds me of when sonny satty would get expensive toys and be happier playing with the box/ wrapping it came in!!

A tupperware cabinet at toddler level is a wonderful thing! (pots and pans make WAY too much noise.)

322 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:29:08am

re: #315 reine.de.tout

I know what you mean! My daughter at age 9 had surgery to remove a growth in the bone of her skull at I thought I would die of anxiety waiting to hear how it went. There's nothing like something serious going on with your kid to drive you batty.

We're going thru another phase of "anxiety moments" now

Sonny Satty just got his license and is out and about driving on his own now!!

"Call us when you get "there" and call us when you leave "there" so we have an idea when to expect you back"

323 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:29:18am

I'm off to start my day!

Have a great one all!

324 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:29:56am

re: #322 sattv4u2

We're going thru another phase of "anxiety moments" now

Sonny Satty just got his license and is out and about driving on his own now!!

"Call us when you get "there" and call us when you leave "there" so we have an idea when to expect you back"

Mine did too! YESTERDAY!

When I told him he has to return the vehicle with the same amount of gas in it as when he took it, the light in his eyes dimmed.

325 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:30:06am

re: #321 ggt

A tupperware cabinet at toddler level is a wonderful thing! (pots and pans make WAY too much noise.)

Oh hell, yeah,,

Sonny Satty would be enthralled for hours with a set of plastic containers and lids

326 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:31:03am

re: #308 ggt

You know, let's just go back to the stork story and be done with it.


You remember the free government cheese they gave out in the 80's and 90's?

They just spray painted the green cheese the astronauts brought back from the moon.

327 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:31:48am

re: #320 Gus 802

Then the kids should vote. I bet this version wins:

Tiamat possessed the Tablets of Destiny and in the primordial battle she gave them to Kingu, the god she had chosen as her lover and the leader of her host. The deities gathered in terror, but Anu, (replaced later, first by Enlil and, in the late version that has survived after the First Dynasty of Babylon, by Marduk, the son of Ea), first extracting a promise that he would be revered as "king of the gods", overcame her, armed with the arrows of the winds, a net, a club, and an invincible spear.

And the lord stood upon Tiamat's hinder parts,
And with his merciless club he smashed her skull.
He cut through the channels of her blood,
And he made the North wind bear it away into secret places.

Slicing Tiamat in half, he made from her ribs the vault of heaven and earth. Her weeping eyes became the source of the Tigris and the Euphrates, her tail became the Milky Way. With the approval of the elder deities, he took from Kingu the Tablets of Destiny, installing himself as the head of the Babylonian pantheon. Kingu was captured and later was slain: his red blood mixed with the red clay of the Earth would make the body of humankind, created to act as the servant of the younger Igigi deities.

328 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:32:03am

When you can't get what you want demand what you don't want in absurd proportions!

//

329 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:32:10am

re: #322 sattv4u2

We're going thru another phase of "anxiety moments" now

Sonny Satty just got his license and is out and about driving on his own now!!

"Call us when you get "there" and call us when you leave "there" so we have an idea when to expect you back"

Oh, gawd.
It never stops, the things to worry about with your kids, does it?

Daughter is moving into her apartment this coming Monday. I'm not as ready for this moment as I thought I would be.

330 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:32:47am

re: #325 sattv4u2

Oh hell, yeah,,

Sonny Satty would be enthralled for hours with a set of plastic containers and lids

A drawerful of socks and undies was also good for an afternoon of fun at our house.

331 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:33:45am

re: #324 ggt

Mine did too! YESTERDAY!

When I told him he has to return the vehicle with the same amount of gas in it as when he took it, the light in his eyes dimmed.

Yeah,, last night, he had planned on going to a friends house for a pool party. We live out in the country, but they live out Out OUT in the country,, dark, windy roads, and to make matters worse, it rained HARD for a couple of hours before he left

Wet Windy Poorly Lit Roads

Yup,, Mrs Satty and I were calm as could be, , NOT

332 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:34:39am

re: #331 sattv4u2

Yeah,, last night, he had planned on going to a friends house for a pool party. We live out in the country, but they live out Out OUT in the country,, dark, windy roads, and to make matters worse, it rained HARD for a couple of hours before he left

Wet Windy Poorly Lit Roads

Yup,, Mrs Satty and I were calm as could be, , NOT

LOL.
I would have offered to drive. I could be a helicopter mom (hovering, hovering, always hovering) at times.

333 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:35:13am

re: #330 reine.de.tout

A drawerful of socks and undies was also good for an afternoon of fun at our house.

To this day, I do!
//

334 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:36:06am

re: #333 sattv4u2

To this day, I do!
//

*snort*
you are so bad!

335 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:36:15am

re: #327 Sergey Romanov

Then the kids should vote. I bet this version wins:

That could use a music score by Hans Zimmer.

//

336 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:37:14am

re: #332 reine.de.tout

LOL.
I would have offered to drive. I could be a helicopter mom (hovering, hovering, always hovering) at times.

I had my shoes already on and was going to let him drive, but with me with him

Surprisingly, it was the Mrs that relented and said he could go by himself

Of course, until he called that he had arrived, she had a white knuckle death grip on my arm as we sat and watched (but didn't pay attention too) TV

337 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:38:25am

re: #330 reine.de.tout

A drawerful of socks and undies was also good for an afternoon of fun at our house.

I just dropped back in and read this.

My, my.

338 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:39:17am

re: #337 Obdicut

I just dropped back in and read this.

My, my.

You'll better understand when/if you have toddlers

339 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:40:57am

re: #335 Gus 802

That could use a music score by Hans Zimmer.

//

Invoke and you shall receive.

340 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:41:36am

re: #334 reine.de.tout

btw

long time/ no talk

hows hubby doing??

341 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:42:11am

News Corp is lawyering up in the US. It's a prudent thing for them to do considering what's at stake, but it also signals the possibility that the scandal is heading to this side of the pond.

At the same time, the scandal looks like it's spreading to other outlets in the UK beyond News Corp affiliates, and Cameron's government took another hit when it was revealed that Coulson wasn't vetted under the usual procedures before becoming press secretary.

342 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:43:17am

re: #340 sattv4u2

btw

long time/ no talk

hows hubby doing??

OK. Shoulders seem to be much better, on the mend. It's only taken a year. But we'll take it!

343 darthstar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:43:37am

re: #341 lawhawk

Given how defensive the Fox tv spokesmodels have been the last few days, it's probably shredder-central in those offices right now.

344 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:43:49am

re: #330 reine.de.tout

A drawerful of socks and undies was also good for an afternoon of fun at our house.

My daughter left her cosmetics in a drawer that her toddlers could reach. The results were spectacular.

345 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:44:32am

re: #342 reine.de.tout

OK. Shoulders seem to be much better, on the mend. It's only taken a year. But we'll take it!

Is he doing any kind of rehab, or is his "manly man" instincts of "oh ,, it's nothing,, it'll heal itself" at work?

346 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:44:58am

re: #343 darthstar

Shredding documents leads to a whole different boatload of trouble, including violating SOX, obstruction of justice, etc.. That's potentially worse than the allegations of hacking as far as charges are concerned (it's always the coverup that gets you).

347 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:45:20am

re: #344 Alouette

My daughter left her cosmetics in a drawer that her toddlers could reach. The results were spectacular.

Image: InsaneGovCouncil.jpg

348 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:46:15am

re: #344 Alouette

My daughter left her cosmetics in a drawer that her toddlers could reach. The results were spectacular.

My sister did the same thing

The dog, while not thrilled, looked ready for date night!!

349 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:51:18am

Drudge linking to Alex Jones again: DHS VIDEO: White middle-class Americans 'most likely terrorists'...

350 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:52:23am

re: #349 Killgore Trout

Has there been _any_ conservative opposition to Drudge linking to insane sites?

351 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:52:46am

re: #350 Sergey Romanov

Has there been _any_ conservative opposition to Drudge linking to insane sites?

None.

352 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:54:48am

re: #351 Killgore Trout

So what will it take? Linking to VDARE? No, Malkin was there all along. David Duke? Holocaust denial?

353 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:55:01am

(#*$^#@#&! AT&T

354 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:55:14am

re: #345 sattv4u2

Is he doing any kind of rehab, or is his "manly man" instincts of "oh ,, it's nothing,, it'll heal itself" at work?

The "it'll heal itself" approach.

355 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:55:52am

re: #349 Killgore Trout

Drudge linking to Alex Jones again: DHS VIDEO: White middle-class Americans 'most likely terrorists'...

The very long winded comment by Max Divinity is fucking insane!!

356 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:55:54am

You know it's warm in the NYC metro area when even the bears are hitting the pool.

357 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:56:13am

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

Beck has promoted holocaust deniers and he got a warm welcome from some on the Israeli right, let alone the US right.

358 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:56:50am

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

Malkin makes me ashamed to be a Filipino.

359 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:59:06am

re: #357 Obdicut

I don't remember him promoting HDers though, that was Dilling who was all about the usual Talmud stuff. Or did I miss?

360 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:59:14am

Fox Nation also linking to Alex Jones this morning...
DHS Characterizes Terrorists as White Americans

Not a peep of objection from fox readers.

361 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 7:59:39am

re: #358 laZardo

Malkin makes me ashamed to be a Filipino.

I never say "this or that makes me ashamed to be a Russian" because I don't believe in collective responsibility.

362 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:00:21am

re: #349 Killgore Trout

Drudge linking to Alex Jones again: DHS VIDEO: White middle-class Americans 'most likely terrorists'...

I can see being critical of the DHS and the TSA. And there are plenty of normal people doing just that -- Jeffrey Goldberg being one of them. But linking to Alex Jones? That says a lot and that's really been telling of where Matt Drudge really has been coming from all along.

363 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:01:10am

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

So what will it take? Linking to VDARE? No, Malkin was there all along. David Duke? Holocaust denial?

No, Pat Buchanan is well accepted on the right. Victor David Hanson sounds exactly like Buchanan and Duke these days.

364 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:03:22am

Ah well

think I'll hit the shower and then go try to stimulate the economy

365 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:03:47am

re: #359 Sergey Romanov

I don't remember him promoting HDers though, that was Dilling who was all about the usual Talmud stuff. Or did I miss?

I thought Dillinger was a denier as well as an apologist for Hitler.

Anyway: He promoted a vicious apologist for Hitler on his show.

366 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:04:02am

re: #356 lawhawk

You know it's warm in the NYC metro area when even the bears are hitting the pool.

I want to curl into a ball and cry. I don't think anyone could tell the difference between the tears and the ungodly sweat...

367 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:04:19am

re: #354 reine.de.tout

The "it'll heal itself" approach.

Smarten him up, lady!!

368 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:05:24am

Comment from the DHS video on AJ site:
The founders were European Felons whom built a Ponzi Scheme and were OUTLAWED by the World for their CRIMES of human smuggling and opium trafficking to prey on weaker people. They were SCUM, and the nation was a con for idiots to give their life for English Mafia as they raped the continent. Period. DUPE!

369 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:05:34am

re: #363 Killgore Trout

Ah, good example. Buchanan was this close to being an outright denier, when he wrote something about "Demjanjuk's weapon of murder cannot kill", which in fact would imply that Treblinka and it's 800,000 victims was a lie. After all, Buchanan wasn't simply stating that witnesses might have gotten this detail wrong, no, he basically was ready to ditch the whole camp history.

(Though in the end he had a shadow of a point - diesel was not used in Treblinka (but rather a gasoline engine), and Demjanjuk wasn't Ivan the Terrible, but Buchanan got there by taking a very wrong road.)

370 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:05:35am

re: #361 Sergey Romanov

I never say "this or that makes me ashamed to be a Russian" because I don't believe in collective responsibility.


Kulak!!!

371 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:06:24am

re: #365 Obdicut

Maybe she was, you never know with Hitlerites. Some of them are actually not deniers.

372 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:07:10am

re: #370 ralphieboy

Kulak!!!

Burzhuj!!

373 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:07:34am

re: #371 Sergey Romanov

Maybe she was, you never know with Hitlerites. Some of them are actually not deniers.

I honestly don't know which way is worse.

374 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:08:19am

re: #373 Obdicut

- Grandad, was there a 1937?
- No, kid. But there will be.

375 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:14:17am

re: #373 Obdicut

I honestly don't know which way is worse.

Oh I would objectively state that those who agree that it happened and are glad it did are much worse.

376 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:14:52am

re: #375 JasonA

Oh I would objectively state that those who agree that it happened and are glad it did are much worse.

They may not be worse in terms of being harmful, though.

377 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:15:30am

re: #376 Obdicut

Yeah, that's pretty much self-defeating.

378 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:16:53am

Crikey. Has Frum turned in his Conservative CLub Card yet?


Government Spending: Better Than No Spending

379 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:17:13am

re: #376 Obdicut

Although I should note that Commie/nationalist Katyn deniers here often do take a stance "it was a German did, but even if Stalin did it, so what". One of the main Katyn deniers finished his book with "they didn't deserve a German bullet, neither a Soviet one. They fully deserved a Polish bullet." (I'm paraphrasing).

380 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:17:50am

Try this again. Grrrr.

381 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:19:27am

re: #378 JasonA

Crikey. Has Frum turned in his Conservative CLub Card yet?

Government Spending: Better Than No Spending

The far-right hasn't liked Frum for years now. They consider him a RINO. The usual childishness.

382 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:20:07am

re: #381 Gus 802

The far-right hasn't liked Frum for years now. They consider him a RINO. The usual childishness.

Yeah, but even I'm shocked to see him going here.

383 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:22:03am

All these Godwin invocations have gotten me to browse Downfall subtitle videos. Here's one that doesn't use the usual clip:

384 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:23:17am

Water-Regulation-As-Federalism Bill Passes House, Looks A Lot Like ALEC

After being fast tracked by a House panel and passing the House last week, a bill that would strip fundamental powers of the EPA to regulate water toxins crept closer to a Senate vote.

It bears a striking resemblance to several pieces of "model legislation" recently leaked from The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), and might be the newest testament to the organization's potency.

The mission of the Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011 (H.R. 2018) is self-evident in its title. It would eliminate, wholesale, the EPA's power to supersede individual states' water pollution rules. States would no longer be held to federal water quality standards they disagree with, and the EPA would be unable to make changes to Clean Water Act quality standards without states' approval.

385 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:23:37am

re: #382 JasonA

Yeah, but even I'm shocked to see him going here.

Yeah. He's at least being honest. The Republican Party had been big spenders all along. That is until they discovered the Tea Party and decided to co-opt that movement and take them in. Suddenly, everyone on the right and the GOP turned into this super fiscal "conservative" along the lines of the Tea Party and Ron Paul.

Here's a search for Frum rino. It's from the usual mouth breathers.

386 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:26:21am

Alex Jones and company are bragging about their partnership with Drudge is paying off.....
Big Sis Spy Story Goes Viral

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com

Our earlier story about Homeland Security brainwashing minorities to report white people as domestic terrorists has gone viral – after being linked on the Drudge Report, the story is now the number six most read article on the entire Internet, according to the Alexa ranking system.

387 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:28:06am

re: #384 JasonA

Considering that water has no regard for state borders and that riverways and lakes often cross boundaries, Congress properly passed the Clean Water Act to deal with issues - clean water is an interstate issue, not one that can or should be left to individual states.

That said, if a particular state wants to impose regulations that are far more strict than the federal standards, they are free to do so. No state should be able to impose regulations that are weaker than the federal standards.

388 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:30:03am

re: #384 JasonA

Water-Regulation-As-Federalism Bill Passes House, Looks A Lot Like ALEC

Down with clean water! So, in light of the recent state budget debacles (i.e. states going bankrupt) what are the plans for having these states (who are broke) bearing the majority burden of regulating water quality standards? So the people would see their Federal tax rates remain level while their state tax bill would go up. Sooner or later someone will have to pay for it. Even the states. Unless the state decides, "hey we like dirty water" and do nothing about it. But that would subject them to liability because water quality tends to "flow" across state boundaries. State "A" can say "screw clean water" while it's upstream from State "B" who says "we like clean water". State "B" would have to then sue State "A". This is starting to sound like Ron Paul libertarian policy.

389 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:31:10am

re: #387 lawhawk

Considering that water has no regard for state borders and that riverways and lakes often cross boundaries, Congress properly passed the Clean Water Act to deal with issues - clean water is an interstate issue, not one that can or should be left to individual states.

That said, if a particular state wants to impose regulations that are far more strict than the federal standards, they are free to do so. No state should be able to impose regulations that are weaker than the federal standards.

Exactly.

390 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:31:28am

re: #387 lawhawk


Can't disagree with anything there.

391 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:33:13am

Natural resources (water, air, wildlife, etc.) does not stop at state boundaries. It's absurd to think otherwise.

392 Achilles Tang  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:33:21am

re: #389 Gus 802

I bet some law firms are figuring out as we speak, how they can get in on the action of having one downstream state suing one upstream for sending their crap down.

393 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:33:37am

When Japan Makes An American-Style Zombie-Killing Game.

Yes, it is as simple as switching the jailbait schoolgirl with a sailor skirt with a jailbait blonde ponytailed cheerleader.

394 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:33:47am

Ireland And The Vatican: A New Low

"The rape and torture of children were downplayed or ‘managed’ to uphold instead, the primacy of the institution, its power, standing and ‘reputation’. Far from listening to evidence of humiliation and betrayal with St Benedict’s “ear of the heart” . . . the Vatican’s reaction was to parse and analyse it with the gimlet eye of a canon lawyer. . . . This calculated, withering position being the polar opposite of the radicalism, humility and compassion upon which the Roman Church was founded ...

The revelations of the Cloyne report have brought the Government, Irish Catholics and the Vatican to an unprecedented juncture. It’s fair to say that after the Ryan and Murphy reports Ireland is, perhaps, unshockable when it comes to the abuse of children. But Cloyne has proved to be of a different order. Because for the first time in Ireland, a report into child sexual-abuse exposes an attempt by the Holy See, to frustrate an inquiry in a sovereign, democratic republic . . . as little as three years ago, not three decades ago. And in doing so, the Cloyne Report excavates the dysfunction, disconnection, elitism . . . the narcissism . . . that dominate the culture of the Vatican to this day."

Fuck the Vatican.

395 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:34:28am

re: #393 laZardo

When Japan Makes An American-Style Zombie-Killing Game.

Yes, it is as simple as switching the jailbait schoolgirl with a sailor skirt with a jailbait blonde ponytailed cheerleader.

That... that actually looks kinda cool.

396 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:35:05am

re: #392 Naso Tang

I bet some law firms are figuring out as we speak, how they can get in on the action of having one downstream state suing one upstream for sending their crap down.

Fortunately there's not a snowball's chance in hell of this passing.

397 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:35:08am

re: #392 Naso Tang

I bet some law firms are figuring out as we speak, how they can get in on the action of having one downstream state suing one upstream for sending their crap down.

Yep. They'd have to since that would be the only alternative that I could see. A state like Texas could quite easily destroy the beaches of Florida. Here we're looking at billion of dollars in tourist money.

398 Achilles Tang  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:38:05am

re: #396 JasonA

Glad to hear it. Just passing the time of day are they?

399 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:39:08am

re: #314 Sergey Romanov

While scn will get no traction, Hindu creationism should!

The one plus of Hindu creationism is that's it's version of "intelligent design theory" would be way more entertaining (if its existed):

Modern geological formations can be traced to the churning of the Ocean of Milk.

Tectonic events signs that the world-encompassing naga king, Vasuki, is shifting his coils; meteorology is the study of the ongoing battle in the upper atmosphere between Indra and the drought demon Vritra.

Garuda was a terradactyl.

The Ramayana recounts the final pivotal battle between placental mammals and sauropods; all of the extinct hominids died out fighting rakshashas and their velociraptor cavalry.

re: #327 Sergey Romanov

Then the kids should vote. I bet this version wins: [Sumerian creation myth}

I prefer the version where after the battle with Tiamat Enki starts life on earth by scattering about his cosmic semen.

400 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:40:31am

re: #398 Naso Tang

Glad to hear it. Just passing the time of day are they?

What? There are better things they could be doing right now?

401 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:41:46am

re: #399 The Ghost of a Flea

And all those ape-men fossils are Hanuman's ancestors.

402 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:46:18am

re: #399 The Ghost of a Flea

Tiamat gets her ass kicked by Bahamut. /everything always comes back to D&D.

403 sagehen  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:47:16am

re: #387 lawhawk

Considering that water has no regard for state borders and that riverways and lakes often cross boundaries, Congress properly passed the Clean Water Act to deal with issues - clean water is an interstate issue, not one that can or should be left to individual states.

That said, if a particular state wants to impose regulations that are far more strict than the federal standards, they are free to do so. No state should be able to impose regulations that are weaker than the federal standards.

Are you suggesting that the laws of physics somehow supersede the laws of Congress? As if the ones God would enforce are -- I hesitate to say -- more powerful than the workings of the GOP?

Heretic.

Recant, or you will be burned at the stake at sunrise.

404 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:47:45am

re: #402 lawhawk

Tiamat gets her ass kicked by Bahamut. /everything always comes back to D&D.Final Fantasy.

...well, that's how I remember Bahamut.

405 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:48:04am

re: #402 lawhawk

Is this some version of Behemoth or Baphomet?

406 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:50:13am

re: #405 Sergey Romanov

Is this some version of Behemoth or Baphomet?

Turns out I've read about it in 1001 Nights in my childhood:

According to Borges, Bahamut is the giant fish that Isa (Jesus) beholds in the 496th night of the One Thousand and One Nights. Bahamut in this telling is a giant fish swimming in a vast ocean. It carries a bull on its head; the bull bears a rock, and above the rock is an angel who carries the seven stages of the earths.
407 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:51:28am

re: #372 Sergey Romanov

Burzhuj!!


Revanchist!!!

408 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:51:48am

re: #407 ralphieboy

Revanchist!!!

Троцкистская гадина!!

409 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:52:30am

re: #408 Sergey Romanov

LGF always does that. eh

410 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:53:46am

re: #408 Sergey Romanov

Троцки� x0441;тская гадина!!

Космополит!

411 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:54:04am

re: #410 ralphieboy

Сионист!

412 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:54:46am

re: #403 sagehen

Are you suggesting that the laws of physics somehow supersede the laws of Congress? As if the ones God would enforce are -- I hesitate to say -- more powerful than the workings of the GOP?

Heretic.

Recant, or you will be burned at the stake at sunrise.

Kind of makes me wonder what kind of religious alternative they'd serve up in hydrology class.

413 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:55:14am

I assumed that meant "Trots-f***ing-kyite!"

414 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:55:14am

П р о в е р к а ш р и ф т а

415 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:56:12am

re: #413 ralphieboy

Н е т, т о в а р и щ, э т о з а г о в о р м и р о в о й б у р ж у а з и и!

416 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:56:34am

Ghana cracks down on gays


Ghana’s Western Region Minister, Paul Evans Aidoo MP has ordered the immediate arrest of all homosexuals in the country’s west.

Aidooo has tasked Ghana’s Bureau of National Investigations and security forces to round up the country’s gay population and has called on landlords and tenants to inform on people they suspect of being homosexuals.

“All efforts are being made to get rid of these people in the society,” he said.

417 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:56:38am

re: #414 Sergey Romanov

Р е д и с к а !

418 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:57:24am

re: #417 ralphieboy

419 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 8:59:45am

re: #417 ralphieboy

"С а р д е л ь к а! С о с и с к а! Р е д и с к а! Н а в у х о д о н о с о р! П е т у х г а м б у р г с к и й!"
(c)

420 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:00:00am

For the wingnut "Ayn Rand" congressional bozos. Some water basin maps:

Image: Watershed_Map_Southeast_USA_11x8.jpg

Image: us_ws_na.gif

I wonder if they could figure out what these mean?

421 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:02:49am

Н е з н а ю р у с с к и й, н о с Google Translate, я м о г у п р и т в о р я т ь с я!

422 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:03:14am

They should have required continuing education class for people in congress. Maybe add some remedial science. Some probably need to start from the very beginning.

"Yes Mr. Gohmert. Water flows downhill. How many times do I have to keep reminding you of this?"

423 Obdicut  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:03:31am

re: #420 Gus 802

It is really amusing how the totally arbitrary 'states' have become these somehow perfectly designed territories, to the neo-confederates.

They want a state just small enough to be dominated by a majority, I think.

424 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:03:53am

re: #421 commadore183

У г у, т о л ь к о н е о ч е н ь д о л г о - д о п е р в о й о ш и б к и ;)

425 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:03:56am

re: #422 Gus 802

...continuing education classES...

426 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:07:36am

Э т о п е р в а я о ш и б к а н е з а й м е т м н о г о в р е м е н и д л я м е н я LOL!

I am interested in other languages. I've learned Spanish in HS (now long forgotten LOL), and there is a sizeable Arabic population here that I can learn from.

427 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:08:26am

IT'S OFFICIAL. LGF HAS REVEALED ITS COMMUNIST COLORS OUT IN THE OPEN.

/

//aaah motherland

428 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:08:38am

re: #423 Obdicut

It is really amusing how the totally arbitrary 'states' have become these somehow perfectly designed territories, to the neo-confederates.

They want a state just small enough to be dominated by a majority, I think.

All of the water in Georgia stays in Georgia.

//

Heck. Why don't we just divide the states up into little countries. We could have our very own hybridized Confederate-Yugoslavia. Welcome to the Balkanized States of America where each state is autonomous and sovereign. The Feds will just be The Great Protectorate providing security for each state. The state can put together their very own Warsaw Pact made up of state militias. I'll bring the beer and banjo strings.

429 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:09:08am

re: #427 laZardo

IT'S OFFICIAL. LGF HAS REVEALED ITS COMMUNIST COLORS OUT IN THE OPEN.

/

//aaah motherland

Does this mean we all have to start speaking with that stupid Soviet Russia meme now?

430 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:09:57am

re: #427 laZardo

Д л я м а т у ш к и-Р о с с и и!

431 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:10:25am

Side note. The banjo was invented in Africa. ;)

432 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:10:40am

Sputnik!

433 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:11:08am

re: #427 laZardo

П р е д ъ я в и т е _ в а ш е _ п а р т и й н о е _ у д о с т о в е р е н и е, т о в а р и щ!

434 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:12:01am

re: #430 commadore183

"For Mother Russia" doesn't translate well into Russian, esp. as we don't say "Mother Russia". ;)

435 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:12:09am

re: #405 Sergey Romanov

Is this some version of Behemoth or Baphomet?

Bahamut is the Arabic rendering of Behemoth. The D&D version is the god of all good dragons, while Tiamat is the mother of all evil dragons--they're even color-coded for the convience of the erstwhile dragonslayer.

436 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:12:23am

re: #432 Gus 802

Good, good!

437 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:12:45am

They've taken over!

Reds!

438 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:13:26am

re: #437 Gus 802

Better dead than red, eh, comrade?

439 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:14:16am

re: #434 Sergey Romanov

At least I didn't go with the "Drunk Russians" stereotype by yelling "Vodka!" Besides, I now have "Call of Duty" and this song stuck in my head :P

440 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:14:29am

re: #435 The Ghost of a Flea

Bahamut is the Arabic rendering of Behemoth. The D&D version is the god of all good dragons, while Tiamat is the mother of all evil dragons--they're even color-coded for the convience of the erstwhile dragonslayer.

Oh, it's always gotta be the black dragons.

/

441 prairiefire  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:14:42am

Good afternoon, lizards! I took a day trip into NYC yesterday and the busiest American town is still busy! We saw the Alexander McQueen exhibit and it was soooo amazing. Mosy of the outfits were not behind plexi glass cases and my daughter said it was a wonder that people were not flinging themselves on the clothes.
The locals werre complaining about the heat but it did not seem that bad to me.

442 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:15:03am

re: #438 Sergey Romanov

Better dead than red, eh, comrade?

Drink vodka sing Internationale around campfire. Good, yes!

//

443 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:15:05am

re: #439 commadore183

Да.

444 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:16:56am

re: #438 Sergey Romanov

You know that music I used in my thesis video? It was from this video game.

445 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:18:32am

Little Green Red Footballs!

//Derp.

446 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:19:31am
447 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:20:44am

re: #446 Gus 802

He's kinda saying: WTF are you looking at? GTFO!

448 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:21:10am
449 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:22:58am

For those that missed it, here's the final landing of the Space Shuttle program:

Not going to lie, I had tears in my eyes. Such damn beautiful machines. They're one of mankind's greatest technological achievements in the past 100 years.

450 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:23:54am

re: #448 Gus 802

Cats

451 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:24:17am

re: #449 commadore183

The main reason the shuttles have lasted as long as they have is because they were truly ahead of their time. Like the Saturn V rockets of old, I don't know if we'll ever make anything like them again.

452 lizardofid  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:24:38am

Hello all, It would appear that in an amazing sidestep, Perry may be attempting to distance from his own base.

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

453 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:24:47am

re: #448 Gus 802

re: #450 laZardo

Cats [heart] dictators. Regardless of political alignment.

Gotta love brackets.

454 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:25:07am

re: #448 Gus 802

Yeah, there's a famous documentary about that cat!

(Scroll to 6:13 if it doesn't work)

455 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:25:14am

re: #450 laZardo

Cats

Now on Broadway.

//

456 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:26:01am

re: #454 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, there's a famous documentary about that cat!

[Video](Scroll to 6:13 if it doesn't work)

I can't do videos. Bummer. Got a monthly 5G limit. D'oh!

457 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:26:35am

re: #456 Gus 802

That's OK. I lied about a documentary anyway. ;)

458 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:26:42am

Banner at the top of CNN's website:

Ex-presidential hopeful John Edwards ordered to repay $2.3M that exceeded matching funds in his 2008 campaign
459 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:28:06am

re: #453 laZardo

re: #450 laZardo

Cats [heart] dictators. Regardless of political alignment.

Gotta love brackets.

Cats ♥ dictators

460 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:28:46am

re: #459 Gus 802

Now with sub-sup.

461 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:28:58am
462 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:29:24am

re: #439 commadore183

Catchy.

463 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:29:48am

re: #449 commadore183

For those that missed it, here's the final landing of the Space Shuttle program:

[Video]Not going to lie, I had tears in my eyes. Such damn beautiful machines. They're one of mankind's greatest technological achievements in the past 100 years.

Space Shuttle Legacy.

464 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:30:14am

re: #461 Slumbering Behemoth

*uncontrollable laughter*

465 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:30:41am

Cat on a Hot Tin Roof

466 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:31:19am

Cool for Cats

467 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:33:20am

Former KGB officer planing to buy Murdoch assets and use them to target the wealthy....
Lebedev eyes up News of the World bid


Alexander Lebedev, Russian newspaper tycoon and anglophile, is plotting a possible takeover of disgraced British tabloid The News of the World.
....
He would give the News of the World a slightly different spin and wants to raise interest in stories about corruption and wrongdoing by rich and powerful people.
...
Lebedev is a former Duma deputy and KGB officer, who worked at the Soviet Embassy in London during the Cold War, he now has a fortune which Forbes values at $2.1 billion.
468 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:33:59am

Here comes the heat again
Baking on my head like a memory
Baking on my head like a new emotion
I want to walk in the AC mall...

469 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:34:27am

I can hear my falcon outside this morning, Crows are gone.

470 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:34:51am

re: #467 Killgore Trout

Actually it has already been refuted (he was just joking), and frankly he is not the worst owner. He owns Novaya Gazeta that is rabidly anti-Putin.

471 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:34:59am

re: #467 Killgore Trout

Pic related.

472 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:35:23am

re: #445 Gus 802

Little Green Red Footballs!

//Derp.


Speaking of Derp, I hit a wingnut trifecta in site ads just now.

An ad that told me that now was a good time to invest in gold, an ad letting us know what a swell guy Allen West is, and an ad for the book "The Patriots Toolbox: THE Source for Tea Party Activists."

The idea that three different representations of the wingnuttia are giving their money to Charles tickled me so much that I kicked in my own small contribution.

I would have considered subscribing to turn off the ads, but honestly, I'm kind of enjoying the idea that these guys are completely wasting their money. :-)

473 Gus  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:36:03am

re: #469 Killgore Trout

I can hear my falcon outside this morning, Crows are gone.

We've got 3 red tail hawks around here. Every once in a while you can see some crows chasing after a hawk with the hawk carrying some "crow like object" in its talons.

474 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:36:28am

re: #472 BongCrodny

Speaking of Derp, I hit a wingnut trifecta in site ads just now.

An ad that told me that now was a good time to invest in gold, an ad letting us know what a swell guy Allen West is, and an ad for the book "The Patriots Toolbox: THE Source for Tea Party Activists."

The idea that three different representations of the wingnuttia are giving their money to Charles tickled me so much that I kicked in my own small contribution.

I would have considered subscribing to turn off the ads, but honestly, I'm kind of enjoying the idea that these guys are completely wasting their money. :-)

The ads would be there if you subscribed; you just wouldn't see them. So the money would be DOUBLY wasted. Go ahead. Subscribe.

475 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:36:30am

re: #470 Sergey Romanov

Actually it has already been refuted (he was just joking), and frankly he is not the worst owner. He owns Novaya Gazeta that is rabidly anti-Putin.

Ah, thanks. I didn't know that. I've seen him mentioned as a possible buyer before so I just assumed he was expressing interest.

476 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:36:50am

re: #472 BongCrodny

Maybe we ought to try making our own Tea Party guide.

At the very least we could have it inserted in the next LGF cookbook. :D

477 General Nimrod Bodfish  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:39:02am
478 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:39:16am

re: #475 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I actually posted that link earlier today. Later there was a separate item at lenta.ru debunking it (he says he was misunderstood; but actually even in this item it's clear that the interest is max. hypothetical).

BTW, here's the Eng. version of NG:

[Link: en.novayagazeta.ru...]

I think NG actually has the saddest record - most authors killed under mysterious circumstances (that includes Politkovskaya). So, as I said, Lebedev wouldn't be a bad owner.

479 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:40:20am

re: #461 Slumbering Behemoth

In Soviet Russia...


Ah, yes -- professional wrestler Kevin Nash in his greatest role: an unnamed assassin with no lines in a flop comic book movie.

...but "Waldo finds YOU" gets a serious upding.

480 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:43:28am

re: #479 BongCrodny

First time I learned about what Waldo is was while playing Leisure Suit Larry: Love for Sail. It was actually named differently there (as you might guess), but by looking it up I learned about Waldo.

481 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:44:20am

re: #474 reine.de.tout

The ads would be there if you subscribed; you just wouldn't see them. So the money would be DOUBLY wasted. Go ahead. Subscribe.


Yeah, I thought about subscribing, but PayPal wanted me to set up an account -- and my last experience with PayPal (years ago) had *far* from optimal results. Somebody hacked into the damn thing, and the hoops I had to jump through to get PayPal to believe me were such that it just wasn't worth the effort.

482 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:44:53am

Obama and Boehner Close to Major Budget Deal, Congressional leaders are told

483 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:44:56am

re: #473 Gus 802

We've got 3 red tail hawks around here. Every once in a while you can see some crows chasing after a hawk with the hawk carrying some "crow like object" in its talons.

I once saw a red tail hawk and a raven spiraling up into the sky, one above the other, wings almost touching. I often see ravens flying together, but only once have I seen a cross-species experience.

484 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:46:19am

re: #482 lawhawk

Obama and Boehner Close to Major Budget Deal, Congressional leaders are told

I call shenanigans unless it's actually signed, sealed, and delivered. I don't trust the Republicans any farther than I can throw them, which is to say, not at all.

485 Lidane  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:46:28am

re: #482 lawhawk

Obama and Boehner Close to Major Budget Deal, Congressional leaders are told

I'm eagerly awaiting the head explosions on both sides once it's announced.

486 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:47:09am

re: #485 Lidane

Well, I expect it to be bad.

487 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:48:55am

re: #480 Sergey Romanov

First time I learned about what Waldo is was while playing Leisure Suit Larry: Love for Sail. It was actually named differently there (as you might guess), but by looking it up I learned about Waldo.


I was more of a King's Quest fan than a Leisure Suit Larry fan, but Sierra was my second favorite computer game company. I think Infocom will always have that particular place of honor.

488 Lidane  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:49:21am

re: #486 Sergey Romanov

Well, I expect it to be bad.

I'm not expecting a great deal either. But the alternative of a default is much, much worse.

489 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:49:57am

re: #487 BongCrodny

I was more of a King's Quest fan than a Leisure Suit Larry fan, but Sierra was my second favorite computer game company. I think Infocom will always have that particular place of honor.

My absolute favorite was Space Quest.

490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:50:02am

Jerry Springer played along once and let them feed him to a big GWAR monster.

The band still sucks.

491 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:50:12am

re: #484 thedopefishlives

I call shenanigans unless it's actually signed, sealed, and delivered. I don't trust the Republicans any farther than I can throw them, which is to say, not at all.

I think it could be real. The GOP know that a default would sink them. They'll take the deal as close to the last minute as they can and then claim victory.

492 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:51:16am

re: #489 Sergey Romanov

Oh yes, and Quest for Glory/Hero's Quest of course.

493 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:51:31am

Now this is just nuts. Orthodox Jewish rabbi from Brooklyn blames gay marriage and teh ghey for the murder of Leiby Kletzky.

Levin blamed the murder of eight-year-old Hasidic boy Leiby Kletzky on Jews who supported gay rights, gay marriage, and abortion clinics.

What an asshat. One had absolutely nothing to do with the other.

494 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:52:03am

re: #493 lawhawk

Alouette had a page about that a coupla days ago.

495 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:52:05am

re: #491 laZardo

It's a political ploy as old as politics.

497 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:55:06am

re: #496 Slumbering Behemoth

Wind Comanches? Wazzat?
//

498 Spocomptonite  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:59:38am

re: #459 Gus 802

Cats ♥ dictators

Cats ARE dictators.

499 AK-47%  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 9:59:47am

re: #493 lawhawk

Now this is just nuts. Orthodox Jewish rabbi from Brooklyn blames gay marriage and teh ghey for the murder of Leiby Kletzky.


What an asshat. One had absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Hitler was a vegetarian...

500 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:00:24am

re: #497 Sergey Romanov

Wind Comanches? Wazzat?
//

It's something that is almost as good as this.

501 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:01:11am

re: #499 ralphieboy

And Dalai Lama isn't.

502 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:01:56am

re: #499 ralphieboy

Hitler was a vegetarian...

You know who else was a vegetarian?
/fuck, wait. you left me no where to go with this one...

503 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:02:36am

re: #500 laZardo

It's something that is almost as good as this.

I still have that laying around somewhere and play it on occasion. Truly a classic, and a pioneer in the world of 3D combat. Too bad it didn't catch on.

504 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:03:03am

re: #500 laZardo

Never was into 3D shooters, with exceptions of 2nd Doom and Duke Nukem. Although I did play Descent, but wasn't impressed.

505 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:03:47am

re: #503 thedopefishlives

I still have that laying around somewhere and play it on occasion. Truly a classic, and a pioneer in the world of 3D combat. Too bad it didn't catch on.

I had it on shareware disc back in the day. Got it off GOG.com for $5.99 with Descent 2.

506 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:06:17am

re: #499 ralphieboy

And Rudolph Hess is now fish food.

507 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:06:56am

re: #506 lawhawk

And Rudolph Hess is now Cthulhu food.

FTFY

508 Spocomptonite  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:08:17am

re: #487 BongCrodny

I was more of a King's Quest fan than a Leisure Suit Larry fan, but Sierra was my second favorite computer game company. I think Infocom will always have that particular place of honor.

I grew up on Microprose/Maxis games like today's kids grow up on Caillou and Dora the Explorer. Reticulating Splines!

509 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:08:19am

Poor Cthulhu. First Osama, now this.

510 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:09:09am

re: #509 Sergey Romanov

He's had time to digest Hess though... 24 years or so...

511 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:10:18am

re: #506 lawhawk

And Rudolph Hess is now fish food.

Heh... He sleeps with Bin Laden.

512 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:10:20am

re: #507 Sergey Romanov

Do not want.

513 Spocomptonite  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:12:06am

re: #500 laZardo

It's something that is almost as good as this.

OMG I almost forgot about Descent! Wow. When I was a little kid, I didn't have the coordination to control 3 flight axis and shoot all at the same time, so I enlisted my younger brother and we took it in turns on the directional arrow keys while the other took the acceleration and shooting controls. Good times.

514 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:12:21am

bbl

515 Achilles Tang  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:15:57am

re: #406 Sergey Romanov

Turns out I've read about it in 1001 Nights in my childhood:

I like turtles better. Consistency all the way down, and it does kind of match with the multiverse if one wants to be generous.

516 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:18:51am

re: #508 Spocomptonite

I grew up on Microprose/Maxis games like today's kids grow up on Caillou and Dora the Explorer. Reticulating Splines!

Maxis, now there's a name I haven't heard for a while. Those games were the bomb.

517 Achilles Tang  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:20:32am

re: #472 BongCrodny

I bet the people who get paid to place the ads are enjoying it too, at their client's expense.

518 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:21:04am

re: #513 Spocomptonite

Back when we had the shareware disc we never made it to the exit in time after Level 2. XD

519 Lidane  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:21:34am

re: #508 Spocomptonite

Reticulating Splines!

Every time I see that somewhere online I laugh. It even shows up in the CivWorld Facebook game.

520 laZardo  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:23:47am

anyhoo headan to bed

nighty

521 Lidane  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:24:30am

Also, my education and overall productivity will be taking a nosedive now that Bioware have announced pre-orders for Star Wars: The Old Republic.

Heh.

522 Spocomptonite  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:26:22am

re: #521 Lidane

Also, my education and overall productivity will be taking a nosedive now that Bioware have announced pre-orders for Star Wars: The Old Republic.

Heh.

But its not Mass Effect 3.

523 blueraven  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:31:30am

re: #452 lizardofid

Hello all, It would appear that in an amazing sidestep, Perry may be attempting to distance from his own base.

[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

Rachel Maddow did a segment about this last night. Apparently he is trying to scrub the website of the "endorsers", or at least bury the link to the list under the FAQ section.
You have to go almost to the bottom of the FAQ page to see the question:
Who else will be there? to find the link to the endorsers

[Link: theresponseusa.com...]

Before they were prominently displayed in the main menu.

Strangely, if you click on the Spanish language link, the endorsements are still on the main menu.

[Link: theresponseusa.com...]

524 Lidane  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:31:50am

re: #522 Spocomptonite

But its not Mass Effect 3.

True. But I have time to play Mass Effect 1 & 2 before The Old Republic comes out, and ME3 will have to wait until next May for me, since it comes out in March and I'll be in the middle of school and gearing up for SXSW then.

So The Old Republic it is. :D

525 Spocomptonite  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:42:01am

re: #524 Lidane

True. But I have time to play Mass Effect 1 & 2 before The Old Republic comes out, and ME3 will have to wait until next May for me, since it comes out in March and I'll be in the middle of school and gearing up for SXSW then.

So The Old Republic it is. :D

I feel your pain. I'm going to have to wait on ME3, too, for the same (school) reasons. I fear I might go crazy by summer, though.

Human Resources: "So, Spocomptonite, what made you interested in applying for an internship at our engineering firm?"
Me: "So I can afford to buy Mass Effect 3."

526 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:44:05am

Hi folks, I'm back from seven days of detox, no noticeable withdrawal, not with the twice a day Seconal dose and a few other pills along the way.

Now the ball is back in my court, meetings, meetings, meetings and yet more meetings, time to make a new social network that does not involve (and actually excludes) alcohol use.

Anywho...I probably will not be posting here as much but I still hope to come up with a page now and then. Attending 3 or 4 hour long A.A. meetings a day plus the transit time there and back is seriously going to cut into my accustomed 'web research' and posting time allotment. ;) (probably not entirely a bad thing)

Not like I have much choice, drinking like I have been lately is just a kind of slow suicide, time to try to claw my way back to normality. Any prayers or wishes for good Karma will be appreciated. Thank You.

527 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:48:34am

re: #526 ausador

Dude, WTF happened?

528 Lidane  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:51:29am

re: #525 Spocomptonite

I feel your pain. I'm going to have to wait on ME3, too, for the same (school) reasons. I fear I might go crazy by summer, though.

Human Resources: "So, Spocomptonite, what made you interested in applying for an internship at our engineering firm?"
Me: "So I can afford to buy Mass Effect 3."

Heh. I'll be in the middle of my last semester of grad school when ME3 comes out. Better to wait and graduate with my degree first, then play it after I get a job with a real paycheck. Hehe.

529 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 10:58:22am

re: #527 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude, WTF happened?

I spent over three years caring for my parents 24/7/365, I lost Mom in November, and then Dad in February. I'd love to blame losing my sobriety on that but any alcoholic will tell you that it was my choice, and it was.

By the time I realized how much alcohol had taken control again it was too late for me to quit without medical support for the withdrawals.

Time to start fresh again...but I am not going to do that on my own secluded in this Condo, time to build some social support.

530 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 11:05:45am

re: #529 ausador

Damn, sorry to hear it. Stay strong and best of luck to you. Addiction is a mother fucker.

Time to start fresh again...but I am not going to do that on my own secluded in this Condo, time to build some social support.

Indeed. Keeping your own counsel is the worst thing a person can do when fighting addiction. That's how we end up in the middle of one. I hope you find some good people to help you.

531 BongCrodny  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 11:24:57am

re: #523 blueraven

Rachel Maddow did a segment about this last night. Apparently he is trying to scrub the website of the "endorsers", or at least bury the link to the list under the FAQ section.

Our dingaling governor up here in the Great State of South Canada, Paul "38%" LePage, hopped on theresponse bandwagon almost immediately, signing his proclamation on June 6th.

Bangor Daily News article

For those not aware of the story, we had Republican, Democratic and Independent candidates for governor in last year's election; the Democrat and Independent kept pissing on each other the entire campaign, which allowed Governor Tea Party to sneak in with 38% of the vote.

532 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 11:59:58am

re: #529 ausador

*manhug* :)

533 prairiefire  Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:06:43pm

re: #526 ausador

Prayers, stength, and best wishes headed your way, ausador.


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