Pamela Geller Lashes Out: ‘The Little Green Shew’

Like a cornered rat on Stoli
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Obviously feeling backed into a corner, Pamela Geller lashes out with her patented incoherent malice: NORWAY SHOOTER A CHARLES JOHNSON FAN!!!!

The shooter links to LGF (before he went psycho). The above is the original. From here.

More Screenshots here from Mark Humphries (as well as links to myriad other websites etc.)

In CJ’s world, this makes him culpable, does it not? Over ninety people are dead in this horror and many wounded, and this psychopath is using this to incite hatred against me and those of us who are fighting for freedom and Western values. Shame on him for using these deaths to carry out his selfish personal vendetta.

No one is explaining what his anti-Muslim views (if he really had them) have to do with his attacks. Maybe the shooter was like Johnson and turned.

The shooter once posted ONE link to Atlas. ONE link. And the little green shew [sic] posts that he was my fan and made that the center of the story — not what the rest of the world did, mourning dead children.

Pamela doesn’t link to the page where Breivik posted one link to LGF, and the reason is obvious — because if you look at the whole thing you’ll notice that the link to LGF is accompanied by links to newspaper sites, Wikipedia, and all kinds of other places. Here’s the actual page, in a Google translated version.

Notice that contrary to Geller’s assertion, there are two links to her site there, not one. And also notice that Breivik explicitly admires Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and “Fjordman:”

I feel it is important to create a pan-European platform for rhetoric / objectives / policy analysis / research of historical factors relevant to so and transfer this knowledge to every nation. It pan-Europeiske/US environment Robert Spencer, Fjordman, Atlas [Pamela Geller], Analekta + 50 other EU / U.S. bloggers (and Facebook groups) is the epicenteret for policy analysis and has been for some years.

Nobody in that “counter-jihad” crowd will ever link to my site with approval again, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. I’ve made it extremely clear, for years, that I want nothing to do with their hate speech and bigotry.

This situation in Norway is exactly why I tossed all those people out of LGF and cut all ties with Spencer and Geller and their crowd of bigots and haters. I guarantee that Anders Behring Breivik was not a fan of LGF, and Geller knows this very well.

On the contrary, Breivik is a product of the groups and causes Pamela Geller continues to promote to this day.

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853 comments

1 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:22:13pm

Shew us the love.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:23:33pm

If the shew fits...

3 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:28:48pm

There was an old lady who lived in a shew...

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:28:58pm

Charles... Take a look at his book. More than 20 links to LGF. But incomparably more - to jihadwatch, and a bit less - to Atlas Shrieks.

5 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:29:08pm

Shewless Joe Jackson...

6 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:29:41pm

Shewd with his finances...

7 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:30:01pm

Little Green Footballs is to blame for everything that goes wrong in the world. Get some new material Ms Geller.

8 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:30:22pm
If the United States wants to maintain what it sees as its moral leadership, it can begin by challenging Islamic censorship and intimidation. China doesn’t care, nor does Russia, while India has a huge Islamic fifth column to worry about. Europe is controlled by a Eurabian elite that is both unwilling and incapable of protecting free speech from Muslim intimidation, which is why many Europeans have become free speech refugees on American websites such as Robert Spencer’s JihadWatch.org and Charles Johnson’s Little Green Footballs[130].

Damn.

9 avanti  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:30:37pm

The shew must go on.

10 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:31:13pm

re: #9 avanti

that one belonged to Ed Sullivan.

11 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:31:46pm

Shew me the money...

12 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:31:51pm

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

that one belonged to Ed Sullivan.

We got a really big shew for you tonight.

13 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:32:06pm

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

Damn.

Wait! Stop the presses. His book is full of Fjordman reprints, those a probably links and citations from his stuff.

14 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:32:26pm

re: #12 marjoriemoon
You are a faster typist than I am.

15 avanti  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:32:29pm

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

OK, how about "Shew me the money"

16 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:32:40pm

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

That must have been written years ago. The salient point is that I cut all ties with them LONG ago -- while Geller and Spencer continued to encourage and incite this kind of violence, to this day.

17 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:34:04pm

re: #13 Sergey Romanov

His book is full of Fjordman reprints

Hmmm...

18 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:35:08pm

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

Damn.

That quote is from Fjordman, not Breivik.

[Link: www.freebritannia.org...]

19 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:35:23pm

There is another version of this: dumb Republicans who shriek at Blacks that "Democrats" were the kkk. So we must be voting for the kkk every time we vote for a Dem.

Worst part: it's conventional wisdom now, and they really, truly believe that.

20 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:36:18pm

Well said. Although LGF was part of the anti-Islam climate long ago, Charles has done the utmost responsible and commendable thing by not only refuting the "anti-jihad" movement altogether, but has gone further by dutifully exposing its dark underbelly for all to see.

Go defend genocide criminals some more, Pam, and get bent.

21 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:36:42pm

re: #18 Charles

Yeah, he copied F. And probably with his approval too.

22 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:36:49pm

re: #11 Kid A

Shew me the money...

There's no business like shew business.

23 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:37:09pm

re: #19 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin


they really think that lincoln would be a republican today

24 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:37:15pm

From the intro to the book:

I’ve spent a total of 9 years of my life working on this project. The first five years were spent studying and creating a financial base, and the last three years was spent working full time with research, compilation and writing. Creating this compendium has personally cost me a total of 317 000 Euros (130 000 Euros spent from my own pocket and 187 500 Euros for loss of income during three years). All that, however, is barely noticeable compared to the sacrifices made in relation to the distribution of this book, the actual marketing operation;)

Seems like my hypothesis about this being about his book is correct...

25 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:37:44pm

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

Except nowadays the people in his cult wouldn't call this a refuge for free speech. They are off elsewhere screeching about how this place is about censorship, the liberal agenda, etc.

Any links to post ~2008 LGF?

26 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:37:55pm

re: #18 Charles

That quote is from Fjordman, not Breivik.

[Link: www.freebritannia.org...]

On that page, where it says Little Green Footballs, the link is actually to GoV.

27 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:38:33pm

re: #23 SpaceJesus

they really think that lincoln would be a republican today

Even though they wave the Confederate flag lol

Dumb bigots.

28 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:39:39pm

re: #27 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

no no no you see, the KKK and their ilk are just a bunch of liberal hippies who went too far

29 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:40:28pm

re: #19 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

There is another version of this: dumb Republicans who shriek at Blacks that "Democrats" were the kkk. So we must be voting for the kkk every time we vote for a Dem.

Worst part: it's conventional wisdom now, and they really, truly believe that.

And they love to mention Robert Byrd.

30 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:42:16pm

re: #28 SpaceJesus

no no no you see, the KKK and their ilk are just a bunch of liberal hippies who went too far

They were the radical progressives of their day.

31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:44:29pm

re: #29 Winny Spencer

And they love to mention Robert Byrd.

I bet by tomorrow, Geller and crew will truly believe Charles and LGF 2008 onward, somehow appealed to ABB and in fact made him pull the trigger.

32 shutdown  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:45:06pm

Tech question: Since I have changed my avatar, it does not show up on front-page posts. Why is that? I feel so naked with only a little green football....

33 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:45:34pm

re: #16 Charles

You get a couple mentions....

In late 2007 and early 2008, I was involved in a heated argument with the American blog Little Green Footballs and its owner Charles Johnson. I haven't been thinking much about it since then because it consumed too much energy and I found it to be a waste of time. However, recent events have caused me to look at these issues once more. In the city of Cologne (Köln), Germany, a scheduled anti-Islamisation demonstration was disrupted by an unholy alliance of Eurabian Multicultural elites and extreme Leftist "anti-Fascists." As Thomas Landen puts it in The Brussels Journal[1]:
34 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:45:46pm

Speaking of the EDL, they sure know how to reserve judgment

[Link: uaf.org.uk...]

35 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:47:01pm

More....

I checked the front page of the major American "anti-Jihad" website Little Green Footballs (LGF) from Friday 19 to Tuesday September 23 2008 to check what blogger Charles Johnson wrote about the demonstration. As far as I could see, he remained completely silent on the subject, yet there is no doubt that he was aware of the event. On Sep 8 he wrote about Fascists Hijacking Anti-Jihadism in Cologne”[18]" and stated that "Here we go again, as an all-star cast of European fascists hijacks the anti-jihad movement for their own sick political purposes."
36 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:48:19pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

Although there are some links to LGF as well as mentions, they seem to be ONLY be there through Fjordman's articles. Ancient history.

On the other hand, Fjordman's numerous texts are included whole.
I wonder how it feels to him to be a part of AB's Mein Kampf.

37 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:49:20pm

re: #22 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

There's no business like shew business.

Shewly you can't be serious?

38 Øyvind Strømmen  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:49:27pm

In his manifesto, there are also an article by Fjordman on how Little Green Footballs is the scum of the earth.

39 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:49:40pm

re: #36 Sergey Romanov

Although there are some links to LGF as well as mentions, they seem to be ONLY be there through Fjordman's articles. Ancient history.

On the other hand, Fjordman's numerous texts are included whole.
I wonder how it feels to him to be a part of AB's Mein Kampf.

Well, thankfully there's tons of stuff bashing LGF.....

The time has now come for Mr. Johnson to apologise in public to the numerous people he has smeared since the fall of 2007, starting with the ones I have mentioned above. It's not their credibility that's on the line here. It's his. If he continues to undermine those confronting Islamic infiltration, it will become increasingly difficult for LGF to present itself as an anti-Jihad website at all. At some point, the rapidly shrinking number of people in the northern hemisphere who haven't been banned from the site yet will be forced to ask themselves whether the website and its owner have simply switched teams and joined the Dark Side.
40 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:51:08pm

I can't open a docx. Tried. Any suggestions?

41 shutdown  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:51:44pm

re: #40 Gus 802

I can't open a docx. Tried. Any suggestions?

Google reader?

42 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:51:48pm

re: #40 Gus 802

I can't open a docx. Tried. Any suggestions?

Google docs?

43 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:52:06pm

re: #41 imp_62

Wonder twins high five!

44 shutdown  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:52:55pm

re: #43 McSpiff

Wonder twins high five!

lmao

45 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:54:11pm

re: #36 Sergey Romanov

Although there are some links to LGF as well as mentions, they seem to be ONLY be there through Fjordman's articles. Ancient history.

On the other hand, Fjordman's numerous texts are included whole.
I wonder how it feels to him to be a part of AB's Mein Kampf.

I bet he is reveling in it.

46 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:56:35pm

So much for Instastoopid's claim that the killer hated libertarians. favorite books.....

George Orwell - Nineteen Eighty-Four, Thomas Hobbes – Leviathan, John Stuart Mill - On Liberty, John Locke - Essay Concerning Human Understanding, Adam Smith - The Wealth of Nations, Edmund Burke - Reflections on the Revolution in France, Ayn Rand – Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, William James – Pragmatism, Carl von Clausewitz - On War, Fjordman – Defeating Eurabia
47 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:57:22pm

re: #41 imp_62

Google reader?

re: #42 McSpiff

Google docs?

Tried uploading. No good. Tried the right click thing and it gave me this, "Sorry, we are unable to retrieve the document for viewing or you don't have permission to view the document."

48 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:58:08pm

This shit is serious. Detailed instructions for organizing a terrorist underground. Making explosives and whatnot.

49 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:58:43pm

re: #47 Gus 802

re: #42 McSpiff

Tried uploading. No good. Tried the right click thing and it gave me this, "Sorry, we are unable to retrieve the document for viewing or you don't have permission to view the document."

There are docx readers. What system are you on?

50 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:59:48pm

re: #49 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

There are docx readers. What system are you on?

Uploaded one. Said "out of memory".

51 shutdown  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 1:59:56pm

re: #47 Gus 802

re: #42 McSpiff

Tried uploading. No good. Tried the right click thing and it gave me this, "Sorry, we are unable to retrieve the document for viewing or you don't have permission to view the document."

do yo have gmail? if you do, email the doc to yourself. when you receive the email, elect o open it in google docs. if you get the same permission message, then there is an issue with the permissions settings put in place by the drafter of the doc. if you are on a windows os, try to open the reader program you have by right-clicking and selecting "run as administrator".

52 Uncle Meat  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:00:17pm

re: #40 Gus 802

If you're using Office 2003, use this patch: [Link: www.microsoft.com...]

Or maybe simpler, but untested, [Link: www.docxreader.com...]

53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:00:35pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

OH WEB DRAMAS

WHY WHY WHY DID HE TURN AWAY FROM THE FIGHT AGAINST JEEE-HAWD

54 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:00:47pm

re: #50 Gus 802

Uploaded one. Said "out of memory".

Give the computer a restart?

55 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:02:15pm

re: #53 WindUpBird

OH WEB DRAMAS

WHY WHY WHY DID HE TURN AWAY FROM THE FIGHT AGAINST JEEE-HAWD

Now that people are apparently starting to die over some of this "web drama" maybe its time to take it a little more seriously.

56 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:02:36pm

Thanks folks. I'll figure it out or if not I'll just forget about it. :)

57 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:03:44pm

Is Pam's site or GoV visible in Norway still?

58 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:04:02pm

This will have serious repercussions. It is sure to "inspire" certain others.

59 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:04:17pm

re: #55 McSpiff

Now that people are apparently starting to die over some of this "web drama" maybe its time to take it a little more seriously.

There's really nothing to be done, blog-wise. That's the world we live in, crazy people can find their anger reflected all over the internet, all over sympathetic blogs, gives them strength.


sorta like guys blowing their faces off because Judas Priest told them to

60 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:04:49pm
2002-2006

I am required to build a capital base in order to fund the creation of the compendium. I don’t know if I will ever proceed with a martyrdom operation at this point as it simply seems too radical.

My plan A is to attempt to acquire 3 million Euro, in which case I plan to establish a pan-European organizational platform that will attempt to grow organically as a support organization which will distribute a “legal version” of the compendium.

If I fail to generate the specified amount I will move forward with the operation, in order to market the compendium that way.

OK, that's it. I'm writing a page.

61 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:05:46pm

more updates on manifesto

[Link: translate.google.com...]

62 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:06:35pm

re: #60 Sergey Romanov

martyrdom operation


Genius!
/

63 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:07:22pm

re: #60 Sergey Romanov

OK, that's it. I'm writing a page.

Would you link it when you're done?

64 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:07:57pm

re: #59 WindUpBird

There's really nothing to be done, blog-wise. That's the world we live in, crazy people can find their anger reflected all over the internet, all over sympathetic blogs, gives them strength.

sorta like guys blowing their faces off because Judas Priest told them to

Right, which is why I think its important to monitor these nuts. None of the names mentioned in any of this are new to us with the exception of ABB himself. I suspect at this point we know more about these guys than the Norwegian police.

65 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:09:08pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Good to know we were getting under this bastard's skin.

66 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:10:09pm

re: #64 McSpiff

Right, which is why I think its important to monitor these nuts. None of the names mentioned in any of this are new to us with the exception of ABB himself. I suspect at this point we know more about these guys than the Norwegian police.


That is probably true!

67 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:11:14pm

The Norwegian police need to outsource to the somethingawful forums, they are on this guy like evil on pam.

68 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:11:47pm

re: #67 SpaceJesus

The Norwegian police need to outsource to the somethingawful forums, they are on this guy like evil on pam.

link?

69 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:12:16pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

Well, thankfully there's tons of stuff bashing LGF...

The time has now come for Mr. Johnson to apologise in public to the numerous people he has smeared since the fall of 2007, starting with the ones I have mentioned above. It's not their credibility that's on the line here. It's his. If he continues to undermine those confronting Islamic infiltration, it will become increasingly difficult for LGF to present itself as an anti-Jihad website at all. At some point, the rapidly shrinking number of people in the northern hemisphere who haven't been banned from the site yet will be forced to ask themselves whether the website and its owner have simply switched teams and joined the Dark Side.

Use the force, Charles, use the force...

70 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:12:31pm

All I know, and all that needs to be said, is that I and the huge majority of people here would not BE HERE if this was an anti Islam/Muslim hate blog.

Puleeze.

71 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:13:08pm

re: #68 McSpiff

it's kind of gigantic and hard to follow, tho

[Link: forums.somethingawful.com...]

72 William of Orange  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:14:17pm

Live's work of Breivik found by Dutch forum.

It looks like the main body of Breivik's online work has been found. It's a massive file of more than 1500 A4 pages. However it's not 100% confirmed though the writer named himself as Andrew Breivik. It's a very detailed diary leading up to the massacre, starting in 2002.

This is it.

Seeing the sheer volume of the file it is quite staggering how this low life succeeded in staying below the radar of the authorities. The file is a twisted summary about "culture Marxism" and the "left Church". Every aspect on how to fabricate a bomb is there. The precise planning on how to commit an assault like this is written down.

By all means, this is a very dangerous file!

Once again, it's not confirmed yet as the work of Breivik but it bears all the signs of it being that.

73 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:14:45pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

All I know, and all that needs to be said, is that I and the huge majority of people here would not BE HERE if this was an anti Islam/Muslim hate blog.

Puleeze.

I was finally able to register here in December '07 as the purge was ongoing. There were still a lot of whackos here. I took a beating at first.

74 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:15:15pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

All I know, and all that needs to be said, is that I and the huge majority of people here would not BE HERE if this was an anti Islam/Muslim hate blog.

Puleeze.

I've found it's one of the few places good for those of us against anti-Muslimism AND anti-Israel/antisemitism.

75 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:15:26pm

re: #71 SpaceJesus

it's kind of gigantic and hard to follow, tho

[Link: forums.somethingawful.com...]

Thanks

76 darthstar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:15:44pm

"Like a cornered rat on Stoli"...that's going to leave a mark.

77 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:16:10pm

Anybody care to count the mentions, quotes and citations in the killer's manifesto regarding Robert Spencer? Looks like at least 100, probably more.

78 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:16:58pm

re: #71 SpaceJesus

For a moment that, I read that as "Gigantic and hard to swallow, tho"

79 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:17:07pm

Anyone know if there are any mirrors of the Anders Behring Breivik video that was posted to youtube? It has been taken down.

80 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:18:26pm

re: #78 ProLifeLiberal

those are words i would never expect to see put together in the same sentence when it comes to goons.

81 Øyvind Strømmen  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:18:27pm

Quote from the manifesto:

Fjordman and every writer out there who makes their intellectual work available for distribution will be viewed as valuable contributors and they will be remembered as heroes of the conservative revolutionary movement. Obviously, everyone should have the opportunity to make a profit, which is why I have suggested to many that they release
their works on two arenas. On one hand, they can sell their products as usual, while still allowing the armed European Resistance Movement to distribute their works freely, without legally persecuting everyone who does.

82 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:19:06pm

re: #79 Alexzander

Anyone know if there are any mirrors of the Anders Behring Breivik video that was posted to youtube? It has been taken down.

Norwegian killer made this video

83 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:19:16pm

re: #79 Alexzander

somethingawful found it apparently


84 Øyvind Strømmen  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:20:01pm

Another quote:
Q: Who is your favourite contemporary author and why?
A: That would be Fjordman. Despite a couple of attempts, I have not been able to meet with him even though he is Norwegian. He is quite paranoid which is understandable to a certain degree I guess. Many have asked if I am Fjordman, but this is obviously not the case. To be honest, I had no idea who he was until I was six months into my current compendium, “2083”. At that time I had researched most of the primary and secondary topics for my book. To my great surprise I found that Fjordman had written about many of the same topics I was writing about. The only difference being that he was a professional essay writer and I was not. Our views are quite similar with the exception of
me being an actual armed resistance fighter. I had researched hundreds of writers in the past, many of whom are good. However, I really felt a connection to Fjordmans essays.

85 Nisse  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:20:16pm

re: #79 Alexzander

Here it is:

86 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:20:56pm

Wow, Amy Winehouse dead at 27, that sucks big time.

87 Mentis Fugit  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:21:49pm

re: #37 Idle Drifter

Shewly you can't be serious?


I am serious, and don't call me Shewly.

88 darthstar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:23:22pm

re: #86 Shropshire_Slasher

Wow, Amy Winehouse dead at 27, that sucks big time.

It's sad...she had a lot of natural talent, but never escaped a fucked up pattern of self destruction.

89 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:24:36pm
Refreshing the tree is now long overdue as our countries are in a rapid state of disintegration. It is VITAL and essential for the survival of European civilisation and each respective Western European country that we refresh the tree of liberty.


Tea Party!

90 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:25:19pm

re: #85 Nisse


The video is like a sampling of all the things I've ever seen in this "counter-jihad" movement that Geller runs. Ugh.

91 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:25:21pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

Norwegian killer made this video

[Video]

What a crappy video. I'd laugh if it wasn't by him.

92 Mentis Fugit  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:25:49pm

re: #40 Gus 802

I can't open a docx. Tried. Any suggestions?

If the document is corrupt, or as a last resort, rename it from .docx to .zip (yes, .docx is just a PK-zip container) and you'll be able to see the contents in raw form. The actual document will be XML, so it's a hugely unfriendly way to read it, but you're desperate to retrieve any content...

93 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:25:50pm

fuck, that's a lot of text
*resigned*

94 Shropshire_Slasher  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:26:08pm

Whats with the age of 27?, Joplin, Hendrix, Morrison, Cobain, Seems a big hurdle, shouldn't be

95 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:26:56pm

Apple Pages will open it. Not sure if I'm happy about that or not ... I haven't looked into it yet.

96 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:27:19pm
c. Deportation policies: All Muslims are to be immediately deported to their country of origin. Each family (family head) will receive 25 000 Euro providing they accept the deportation terms. Anyone who violently resists deportation will be executed.
...
Financial compensation will be distributed to all nationalists/patriots and a public acknowledgement will be made of the several decade long unlawful political persecutions of nationalist oriented political activists since 1950 until today. Financial compensation and public acknowledgement must be granted to patriotic/nationalist minded contributors from all 8 political fronts who have been indirectly and directly persecuted in Western Europe since 1950.
....
Reparations of 500 billion Euros will be paid to the Serbian people for war crimes committed by NATO, under US and European cultural Marxist orders, during the Balkan wars.
97 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:27:30pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Tea Party!

Too bad for the tea party, the comparisons are inevitable. From what little I've read, some of the language and concepts are identical.

It would not be the first time people in US have exported xenophobia and social conservative pathology.

98 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:27:56pm

re: #94 Shropshire_Slasher

that's how long i can stand not having wonderful talented people up here with me to hang out and party.

99 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:28:34pm

I manged to open the book.

One thing I'm puzzled by is that it is both anti-capitalist and anti-marxist.

100 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:28:57pm
The Balkans will be liberated from Islamic occupation. However, no measures will be taken against Turkey until the US implodes or bursts out into civil war due to multiculturalism
101 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:28:58pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout


wow, reads just like stalker blog

102 McSpiff  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:29:18pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Turner diaries.

103 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:29:59pm

re: #99 Alexzander

I manged to open the book.

One thing I'm puzzled by is that it is both anti-capitalist and anti-marxist.

Sorry for the crap wikipedia link, but it's fairly thorough

Third Position

104 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:30:08pm

re: #98 SpaceJesus

Oh Jesus.

105 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:30:19pm

re: #97 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Too bad for the tea party, the comparisons are inevitable. From what little I've read, some of the language and concepts are identical.

It would not be the first time people in US have exported xenophobia and social conservative pathology.

He does seem much more influenced by American ideology. I guess the internet has an over-representation of Americans or something.

106 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:31:01pm

re: #92 Mentis Fugit

If the document is corrupt, or as a last resort, rename it from .docx to .zip (yes, .docx is just a PK-zip container) and you'll be able to see the contents in raw form. The actual document will be XML, so it's a hugely unfriendly way to read it, but you're desperate to retrieve any content...

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Thanks.

107 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:31:17pm
Create liberal zones as a method to avoid conflict between cultural conservatives and individuals who seeks unrestricted freedoms. Liberal zones may be granted semi-autonomy. See other chapter for more details.


Kind of like Austin.

108 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:31:29pm

re: #99 Alexzander

I manged to open the book.

One thing I'm puzzled by is that it is both anti-capitalist and anti-marxist.

Like the Nazis.

109 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:32:13pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Kind of like Austin.

Kind of like the Bush-zones.

110 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:32:48pm
I was at a party yesterday with a few friends from high school. One of them, Trond, who apparently had evolved into a relatively extreme Marxist, often joining ANTIFA (Blitz) demonstrations… We were both into hip hop back then and he had apparently continued down that road. We had some interesting debates that night while drinking…:-) Can you believe the hypocrisy of some people? The guy lives in a Norwegian only area in the middle of a Muslim ghetto at Tøyen in Oslo. I asked him; don’t you consider yourself to be a hypocrite considering the fact that you support mass Muslims immigration and at the same time refuse to actually live with them, and instead barricade yourself in a safe Norwegian area? Needless to say, he didn’t have a good answer… I went on about the fact that there is no such thing as a Palestinian. The concept known as Palestine and Palestinians is a Syrian effort to justify Jihad etc (this is a classic and awesome way to infuriate Marxists:-). We managed to push his buttons over and over again without him realizing that we were using him as a supplier for top notch entertainment:-). God, that was actually quite mean but I honestly think he will re-evaluate his Marxist world view after that night.
111 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:33:28pm

Oh and on a great note, there's going to be LOTS OF WEDDINGS tomorrow in NY State. Hooray!

112 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:34:11pm

re: #108 Sergey Romanov

Like the Nazis.

It's more Kevin MacDonald/Jared Taylor/Occidental Quarterly crud.

[Link: bit.ly...]

See also the bigots at american3p.org

113 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:34:46pm

Extracted some images of the nut...

Image: image92.jpeg

Image: image93.jpeg

Image: image94.jpeg

More coming...

114 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:36:35pm
Continued philosophizing about the future cultural conservative political model, when we, the cultural conservatives, again seize political and military power at one point between 2025-2083

I have been thinking about my post-operational situation, in case I survive a successful mission and live to stand a multiculturalist trial. When I wake up at the hospital, after surviving the gunshot wounds inflicted on me, I realize at least for me personally, I will be waking up to a world of shit, a living nightmare. Not only will all my friends and family detest me and call me a monster; the united global multiculturalist media will have their hands full figuring out multiple ways to character assassinate, vilify and demonize. They will possibly do everything they can to distort the truth about me, KT and our true objectives, and attempt to make even revolutionary conservatives detest me. They will label me as a racist, fascist, Nazi-monster as they usually do with everyone who opposes multiculturalism/cultural Marxism. However, since I manifest their worst nightmare (systematical and organized executions of multiculturalist traitors), they will probably just give me the full propaganda rape package and propagate the following accusations: pedophile, engaged in incest activities, homosexual, psycho, ADHD, thief, non-educated, inbred, maniac, insane, monster etc. I will be labeled as the biggest (Nazi-)monster ever witnessed since WW2.

I have an extremely strong psyche (stronger than anyone I have ever known) but I am seriously contemplating that it is perhaps biologically impossible to survive the mental, perhaps coupled with physical torture, I will be facing without completely breaking down on a psychological level. I guess I will have to wait and find out.

Regardless of the above cultural Marxist propaganda; I will always know that I am perhaps the biggest champion of cultural conservatism, Europe has ever witnessed since 1950. I am one of many destroyers of cultural Marxism and as such; a hero of Europe, a savior of our people and of European Christendom – by default. A perfect example which should be copied, applauded and celebrated. The Perfect Knight I have always strived to be. A Justiciar Knight is a destroyer of multiculturalism, and as such; a destroyer of evil and a bringer of light. I will know that I did everything I could to stop and reverse the European cultural and demographical genocide and end and reverse the Islamisation of Europe.

I guess it is tempting for the many who have endured years of vilification, to just start believing the propaganda and embrace NS fully. However, I remain a staunch anti-Nazi and I blame NSDAP for the situation we are in. Hadn’t it been for the actions of the cultural right wing extremists known as the NSDAP our Western European countries would not be dominated by the cultural Marxist extremist regimes we witness today. If the NSDAP had been isolationistic instead of imperialistic(expansionist) and just deported the Jews (to a liberated and Muslim free Zion) instead of massacring them, the anti-European hate ideology known as multiculturalism would have never been institutionalized in Western Europe, because the Marxists would never have been so radicalized to begin with. The cultural conservatives would have been in a very strong and dominant situation today. Western European countries would have had cultural conservative doctrines similar to what we see in Japan and South Korea.

115 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:36:45pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Create liberal zones as a method to avoid conflict between cultural conservatives and individuals who seeks unrestricted freedoms. Liberal zones may be granted semi-autonomy. See other chapter for more details.

Kind of like Austin.

Yeah just about every quote I'm reading is classic Third Position, "racial realist", white nationalist crud.

116 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:37:06pm

Here's a couple more:

Image: image95.jpg

Image: image98.jpg

117 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:37:24pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

Crazy question, but "deported to country of origin"?

What about those Muslims born and raised in Norway, or were converts to Islam?

Are do we start checking for racially pure bloodline to establish that?

118 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:38:07pm

re: #116 Gus 802

Here's a couple more:

Image: image95.jpg

Image: image98.jpg

You have to check out the first one here.

119 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:38:27pm
we risk that the cultural Marxists will emerge as a dominating force again after 20-100 years. As such, we should limit the executions of category A and B traitors to 200 000 in Western Europe. A better alternative than execution of the remaining, the category C traitors, would be to establish a large multiculturalist zone in southern/eastern Europe, perhaps Anatolia, or on other territories which has been invaded and occupied by Muslims. In these newly created zones; the cultural Marxists category C traitors and those of the non-Europeans considered as politically disloyal will be deported to and allowed to live and create their imaginary utopia. A cultural Marxist or a so called “internationalist” does not feel much love for his ancestral country as he believes we are all citizens in a global community. So they should recover easily from the process of being deported to another country.
120 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:38:52pm

re: #113 Gus 802

Extracted some images of the nut...

Image: image92.jpeg

Image: image93.jpeg

Image: image94.jpeg

More coming...

Cosplay!

121 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:39:15pm

re: #114 Sergey Romanov

ABB:

Regardless of the above cultural Marxist propaganda; I will always know that I am perhaps the biggest champion of cultural conservatism, Europe has ever witnessed since 1950.

Anyone familiar with the reference?

(BTW if anyone ever wonders why I'm so hard on social and cultural conservatives, wonder no further.)

122 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:40:00pm

re: #114 Sergey Romanov

Wow. Did he find a hangnail in a halal shwarma shop one time or something?

123 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:40:20pm

Bashes EDL:

I know that the above description is nothing more than vile lies, a part of their psychological propaganda warfare against all cultural conservatives. I know this for a fact as I used to have more than 600 EDL members as Facebook friends and have spoken with tens of EDL members and leaders. In fact; I was one of the individuals who supplied them with processed ideological material (including rhetorical strategies) in the very beginning. The EDL are in fact anti-racist, anti-fascist and anti-Nazi. They even have many members and leaders with non-European background (African and Asian). They have worked so hard, and continue to work hard, to keep National Socialists out of the organization, but yet they are strategically labeled as racist-fascist-Nazi-monsters by the multiculturalist authorities. The EDL, although having noble intentions are in fact dangerously naïve. EDL and KT principles can never be reconciled as we are miles apart ideologically AND organizationally. The EDL even rejects taking a stand against multiculturalism which proves that they are even more naïve than Sarkozy, Merkel and Cameron who have all admitted that multiculturalism has been a failure and a disaster for Europe.
124 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:40:23pm

re: #117 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Crazy question, but "deported to country of origin"?

What about those Muslims born and raised in Norway, or were converts to Islam?

Are do we start checking for racially pure bloodline to establish that?

Geert, Dewinter, and LePenn have all proposed similar deals. I'm not sure how the specifics are supposed to work,

125 Nisse  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:40:49pm

re: #40 Gus 802

Here's a pdf of Anders Behring Breitviks manifesto: [Link: www.kevinislaughter.com...]

126 AK-47%  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:41:40pm

re: #94 Shropshire_Slasher

Whats with the age of 27?, Joplin, Hendrix, Morrison, Cobain, Seems a big hurdle, shouldn't be

If you haven't developed a sense of your own physical limits and overcome the delusion that you are not mortal by age 27 then you will not get much further...

127 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:41:45pm

re: #122 SpaceJesus

Wow. Did he find a hangnail in a halal shwarma shop one time or something?

A Muslim woman probably told him the word "no", once.

128 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:41:56pm

re: #125 Nisse

Here's a pdf of Anders Behring Breitviks manifesto: [Link: www.kevinislaughter.com...]

Thanks.

129 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:42:16pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Geert, Dewinter, and LePenn have all proposed similar deals. I'm not sure how the specifics are supposed to work,

1) Find a stargate
2) Force these people thru
3) Seal the Iris.

130 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:42:54pm

Gave up on the page as there's just too much material there.

131 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:43:27pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Geert, Dewinter, and LePenn have all proposed similar deals. I'm not sure how the specifics are supposed to work,

Especially in the age of DNA testing.

They'll have to prop up some firm to give fake results, so they can keep wallowing in their anxieties about purity and contagion.

132 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:43:36pm

But his is an unhuman mind.

133 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:43:52pm

Well, I'm pretty sure Fjordman is going to be under investigation. That manifesto clearly lays out bomb making, terrorism and armed uprisings. If the killer sent that to Fjordy and he didn't report it then I'm pretty sure that's a crime.

134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:44:07pm

re: #130 Sergey Romanov

Gave up on the page as there's just too much material there.

How about posting on how far you'd got?

135 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:44:26pm

He lists every single item he bought, every single detail.

136 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:44:57pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

Geert, Dewinter, and LePenn have all proposed similar deals. I'm not sure how the specifics are supposed to work,

Oh, we've seen this before, it's known how it will "work"

Ethnic cleansing bad, but for us it's ok. Sick people, not well for modern society.

137 AK-47%  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:45:02pm

I see a deeeper plot now: anyone trying to order fertilizer for any reason will be automatically suspect, especially if he is a registered member of a conservative grouping.

That will start favoring leftist organic farmers, who will finally realize their plans of a total halal/vegetarian hegemony over all our foodstuffs.

We must preserve the purity of our liquid fertilizers!!!

138 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:45:11pm

Climate change denier? Found this image...

Image: image19.jpeg

139 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:45:17pm

re: #134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

No, I already deleted. Just see the PDF, it's near the end. It's a morbidly interesting read anyway, I would have to excise like 80% of it even to fit into the page limit.

140 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:45:23pm

re: #132 Sergey Romanov

But his is an unhuman mind.

Friedrich had the best title of all: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

141 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:45:34pm

re: #130 Sergey Romanov

Gave up on the page as there's just too much material there.

Yeah, kind of how I felt. Not least in the problem is that like most manifestos he could have done with a good editor. Cutting a third of the verbiage and reorganizing what was left would have made it a much tighter work with no loss. (On the other hand and also like most manifestos, the world would have suffered no loss had it never seen the light of day.)

142 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:45:34pm

re: #131 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Especially in the age of DNA testing.

They'll have to prop up some firm to give fake results, so they can keep wallowing in their anxieties about purity and contagion.

Humans only. Neanderthals (and their descendants), get out... damn.

No one is pure. No one.

143 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:46:07pm

re: #123 Sergey Romanov

Geller and Spencer have said most of this before.

This may cause Europe to wake up.

144 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:46:41pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

Eh

145 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:46:43pm

re: #143 ProLifeLiberal

It will sure make some Nazis go further than before. :(

146 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:47:00pm

re: #135 Sergey Romanov

He lists every single item he bought, every single detail.

Son of the Turner Diaries, making it Real. (well, till the whole 'and the awakened shall rise in brotherhood' part, anyway.)

147 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:48:06pm

re: #143 ProLifeLiberal

Geller and Spencer have said most of this before.

This may cause Europe to wake up.

"If you had listened to us, you wouldn't have driven this poor man to take such drastic steps. Plus, he was a false flag just to make us look bad."

148 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:48:15pm
The following should be easy to acquire unless you're called Abdullah Rashid Muhammad...:

Generic lab glassware (EASILY OBTAINABLE): beakers, conical flasks, glass temperature rods etc.
Fume hood and fan (EASILY OBTAINABLE): fume hood can easily be purchased or created using improvisation by using PVC plastic plates, screws, duct tape etc. You can use a 100 euro dust blower as a fan (I did and it worked perfectly).
[long list follows]

149 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:48:16pm
The shooter once posted ONE link to Atlas. ONE link. And the little green shew [sic] posts that he was my fan and made that the center of the story — not what the rest of the world did, mourning dead children.

THIS makes me mad. I went to her site yesterday (only time I've been brave enough to) and found her raging that it was terrorism, obviously stemming from Islam. Then, when it was discovered that the terrorist was Norwegian instead of Middle Eastern, she says, and I quote, "This is looking less like a 9-11 and more of a Jared Laughner." As if his assasination attempt and murder of bystanders with a gun was as bad as blowing up an entire city block with a massive bomb and then deliberately and systematically killing an entire camp of kids. Then, it's "not terrorism". WTF, its only terrorism if Muslims do it?

And finally, to top it off, she accuses us/Charles of not "mourning dead children", when she never said anything about "mourning dead children" herself.
*Spit*. Despicable person.

150 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:49:57pm

It's like reading a King novel.

151 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:50:36pm

re: #136 Stanley Sea

Oh, we've seen this before, it's known how it will "work"

Ethnic cleansing bad, but for us it's ok. Sick people, not well for modern society.

Yeah, that's their whole problem to begin with, modernity.

They are no better than their crankodoodle counterparts in that Guenon/Integral Tradition movement. They, too, run around claiming to be "traditionalists" for the "conservative revolution", yawn. [Link: www.traditionalists.org...] < -- about them, not them

152 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:50:46pm

re: #145 Sergey Romanov

True, but when things have gotten this bad, it will be a painful wake-up.

Of all the countries to have this though, Norway. Norway is nearly innocent as compared to Europe. As I have said before, them and Sweden have not been affected by the anti-Islam bug as badly as the rest of Europe, and have been fighting it.

Norway just became a casualty for the Europe's bigotry against Muslims.

The rest of Europe needs to do a good hard think.

153 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:50:47pm

Over at GoV, Fjordman is desperately trying to wiggle out of the hole he's in.

154 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:53:02pm

re: #150 Sergey Romanov

It's like reading a King novel.

Those were incredible excerpts. Please feel free to continue posting parts that give insight.

155 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:54:05pm

Isn't that cute - all of Pamela's fans are retweeting her "Norway Shooter a Charles Johnson Fan" post, even though they must realize it's complete bullshit.

156 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:54:42pm

re: #154 Alexzander

There's lots of stuff like "Friday May 6 - Day 5: Started to synthesize acetylsalicylic acid from aspirin. Failed badly and ended up with converting the acetylsalicylic acid to worthless salicylic acid goo (at this point in time I didn't know it was salicylic acid but It seemed very difficult to dry the substance)."

There is NO WAY anybody can question "how he could performed all this" after this. He is very knowledgeable, very trained.

157 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:54:58pm

re: #153 Winny Spencer

Over at GoV, Fjordman is desperately trying to wiggle out of the hole he's in.

Direct quote from GoV:

At one point, back before his irrationality was impossible to miss, Pamela attempted to reach some kind of détente with Charles. She was basing her efforts on his previous writings. But her information, like ours, was founded on what we knew of Little Green Footballs before Johnson was ‘turned’ — probably by black psy ops in Europe.

Not the dreaded European Black Psy Ops!

158 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:55:05pm

re: #153 Winny Spencer

Over at GoV, Fjordman is desperately trying to wiggle out of the hole he's in.

If he thinks that's bad, soon he will be at the police station trying to convince interrogators that he isn't in one of the other cells mentioned.

159 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:55:09pm

Just took a gander over to Huffpo and someone linked the LGF Breaking: Oslo thread from yesterday. 1358 fans. From 23 minutes ago.

160 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:55:32pm

re: #156 Sergey Romanov

There's lots of stuff like "Friday May 6 - Day 5: Started to synthesize acetylsalicylic acid from aspirin. Failed badly and ended up with converting the acetylsalicylic acid to worthless salicylic acid goo (at this point in time I didn't know it was salicylic acid but It seemed very difficult to dry the substance)."

There is NO WAY anybody can question "how he could performed all this" after this. He is very knowledgeable, very trained.

After this - I mean the text, not the "fail" paragraph ;)

161 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:55:45pm

re: #139 Sergey Romanov

No, I already deleted. Just see the PDF, it's near the end. It's a morbidly interesting read anyway, I would have to excise like 80% of it even to fit into the page limit.

The work you've done so far is amazing, though. You should make it accessible if you can, imo. Just a suggestion. I know it's a lot of work.

162 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:56:02pm

re: #155 Charles

Again, I say you should sue her for libel.

163 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:56:46pm

re: #153 Winny Spencer

Over at GoV, Fjordman is desperately trying to wiggle out of the hole he's in.

Fjordman
"I didn’t respond to these rumors earlier because I was too emotionally exhausted from yesterday’s events"

Yeah,, imagine on of your offspring committing a crime,, I'm SURE thats "emotionally exhaust"ing

164 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:57:03pm

re: #157 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"At one point, back before his irrationality was impossible to miss" - at these words I kinda hoped he was coming clean about AB.

165 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:57:48pm

Check this out. I blew up one of the photos.

Image: image95A.jpg

The patch says "multiculti traitor hunting permit" and "Marxist hunter."

That's typical wingnut rhetoric.

166 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:57:58pm

re: #161 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

All I did was read through. BTW, linking to this stuff is dangerous. It really is a terrorist guide.

167 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:58:17pm

re: #163 sattv4u2

Fjordman
"I didn’t respond to these rumors earlier because I was too emotionally exhausted from yesterday’s events"

Yeah,, imagine onE of your offspring committing a crime,, I'm SURE thats "emotionally exhaust"ing


damn,,,,, and I have to be at work at midnight

better go nap

168 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:58:19pm

re: #165 Gus 802

Yeah, still remember the "liberal hunting permit".

169 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:58:20pm

re: #165 Gus 802

Check this out. I blew up one of the photos.

Image: image95A.jpg

The patch says "multiculti traitor hunting permit" and "Marxist hunter."

That's typical wingnut rhetoric.

Straight off of #tcot.

170 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:58:28pm

re: #113 Gus 802

Extracted some images of the nut...

Image: image92.jpeg

Compare that image to this one of the creep who assassinated Pakistani politician Salman Taseer (the one who spoke out against the country's extreme anti-blasphemy laws).

Their expressions are practically identical.

171 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:58:33pm

re: #153 Winny Spencer

Over at GoV, Fjordman is desperately trying to wiggle out of the hole he's in.

Has he been contacted by the authorities yet?

172 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:59:01pm

re: #156 Sergey Romanov

There's lots of stuff like "Friday May 6 - Day 5: Started to synthesize acetylsalicylic acid from aspirin. Failed badly and ended up with converting the acetylsalicylic acid to worthless salicylic acid goo (at this point in time I didn't know it was salicylic acid but It seemed very difficult to dry the substance)."

There is NO WAY anybody can question "how he could performed all this" after this. He is very knowledgeable, very trained.

He definitely took the time to learn how to do it, and he definitely had the patience to be able to do plan all of this without alerting anyone. The definition of "worse case scenario" for law enforcement, as we have seen.

173 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 2:59:49pm

re: #155 Charles

Isn't that cute - all of Pamela's fans are retweeting her "Norway Shooter a Charles Johnson Fan" post, even though they must realize it's complete bullshit.

They need to believe it so they can distance themselves from what he did, even though their beliefs are apparently what this terrorist act was all about.

Maybe none of them would go on a murderous rampage, but what they don't comprehend, and are actively in denial about, is how close what they believe is to it, and how their words and ideas can instigate other people to violently act them out.

174 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:00:00pm
It's the Eurovision finale today. I just love Eurovision...!:-) It's a lot of crap music but I think it's a great show all in all. I've seen all the semi finals and will take the time of to watch it later today, online. My country has a crap, politically correct contribution as always. An asylum seeker from Kenya, performing a bongo song, very representative of Europe and my country... In any case; I hope Germany wins!
175 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:01:13pm
It's essential to create as much goodwill you can from the neighbours. Use any opportunity to generate goodwill from them. This goodwill will be returned indirectly by them not probing and investigating. If you get a visit from neighbours, be polite and friendly, offer them sandwiches and coffee, unless it will jeopardize the operation. The goodwill generated is likely to be to your benefit later on.
176 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:01:31pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Has he been contacted by the authorities yet?

No indication of that. But he must be soon, surely.

177 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:02:18pm

Don't know (or care to know) who "erickson" is, but he puts Fjordman on the spot

Blogger eriksson said...

How do you feel about the fact that the Utoya shooter has written a 500+-page book where he presents his views and that in this book he uses Fjordman, brusselsjournal, gatesofvienna and others as his sources?

Blogger eriksson said...

In fact, he even quotes Fjordman at length.

And refers to Fjordman as his favourite blogger.

7/23/2011 5:10 PM

FJORDMANS lengthly response

Blogger Fjordman said...

Eriksson: I do not have special access to the brain of a madman, any more than you do. Let us recall that Anders Behring Breivik has not yet been convicted of anything, but if he really did all of those horrible things he has now been accused of doing, I have no idea what caused him to snap like that. I have read some of the comments he allegedly made at Document.no, and they don’t strike me as being calls for violence. I agree with Hans Rustad on that. For the record, I have never once met Breivik. He doesn’t even know how I look like. The rumors are absurd. I also personally know at least one of those people who were hiding from the shooter at Utøya yesterday. He survived. I didn’t have time to deal with absurd rumors because I was too busy trying to understanding what was happening, which seemed to defy human logic. I still don’t understand it. I probably never will.

178 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:02:46pm

re: #160 Sergey Romanov

After this - I mean the text, not the "fail" paragraph ;)

Some Thoughts:

1.Breivik seems to believe that he has a lot of clandestine sympathy. I wonder if this is true?

1. You quoted excerpts earlier that suggested other cells. Could this be intential fear mongering on his behalf, knowing that his document would be widely read?
If it is intentionally falsified, what else might be put there specifically to mislead?
If it isn't - this is terrifying.

3. Whats up with the Knights Templar? He seems to primarily identity with them as a political/organizational body. Could there be a lot of sympathy there for his views?

4. I noticed he mentioned Sarkozy, Merkel and Cameron for all saying that "multiculturalism has failed." I always felt that was an extremely terrifying turn in Europe. A dangerous proto-fascist territory they are setting.

We are living in the age of the war between postmodernism and various forms of more traditional world-views.
Nietzsche was correct that this would be painful.

179 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:03:16pm

re: #176 Winny Spencer

No indication of that. But he must be soon, surely.

I expect the a lot of the "Counter-Jihad" folks across Europe are going to be getting some unexpected visits over the coming weeks.

180 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:03:24pm

Fjordman's latest:

"Eriksson: I hear that he has written some kind of book. I have never read it. From what little I have read of his comments online, he doesn’t really seem to stand out from the crowd in any major way. I have heard more threatening comments or remarks down at the local pub, at least among those who had a beer too many, than I see in the comments he allegedly posted at Document.no. I fully support both Hans Rustad and Nina Hjerpset-Østlie in claiming that there is nothing he posted there that could indicate that he was planning to massacre nearly 100 people. Apart from that, I feel terrible about what happened, just like every sane person would do. I feel the same as everybody else does when confronted with pure evil."

181 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:03:26pm

re: #165 Gus 802

Check this out. I blew up one of the photos.

Image: image95A.jpg

The patch says "multiculti traitor hunting permit" and "Marxist hunter."

That's typical wingnut rhetoric.

WTF. Hopefully he had that custom made.

182 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:03:39pm

Awww....He's an admirer of the Tea Party....

We, the European Revolutionary Conservatives know very well that it will take many years, even decades before we successfully manage to consolidate to a degree where we can seize political and military power in the first Western European country. In the US, the Tea party movement is one of the first physical, political manifestations which indicate that there is a great storm coming. The creation of similar conservative organizations, even the creation of revolutionary conservative movements such as the Knights Templar is just another manifestation that real resistance to the EUSSR/US cultural Marxist/multiculturalist hegemony is about to materialize. The cultural Marxists are losing their momentum to our advantage.
183 zora  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:04:07pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

got a link?

184 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:05:25pm

re: #180 Winny Spencer

Fjordman's latest:

"I feel the same as everybody else does when confronted with pure evil."

Doubtful.

185 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:05:34pm

re: #183 zora

got a link?

Latest post at GoV, comment section.

186 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:05:52pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

I have never once met Breivik. He doesn’t even know how I look like.


But did they email? The killer seems to indicate they were in contact.

187 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:05:54pm

Expect to hear about Modern Warfare 2 in the coming week. SomethingAwful found the following in the manifesto.

I just bought Modern Warfare 2, the game. It is probably the best military simulator out there and it’s one of the hottest games this year. I played MW1 as well but I didn’t really like it as I’m generally more the fantasy RPG kind of person – Dragon Age Origins etc .and not so much into first person shooters. I see MW2 more as a part of my training-simulation than anything else. I’ve still learned to love it though and especially the multiplayer part is amazing. You can more or less completely simulate actual operations."

188 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:06:10pm

re: #178 Alexzander


3. Whats up with the Knights Templar? He seems to primarily identity with them as a political/organizational body. Could there be a lot of sympathy there for his views?

The Knights Templar were disbanded in 1312.

189 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:06:43pm

re: #180 Winny Spencer

Fjordman's latest:

"Eriksson: I hear that he has written some kind of book. I have never read it. From what little I have read of his comments online, he doesn’t really seem to stand out from the crowd in any major way. I have heard more threatening comments or remarks down at the local pub, at least among those who had a beer too many, than I see in the comments he allegedly posted at Document.no. I fully support both Hans Rustad and Nina Hjerpset-Østlie in claiming that there is nothing he posted there that could indicate that he was planning to massacre nearly 100 people. Apart from that, I feel terrible about what happened, just like every sane person would do. I feel the same as everybody else does when confronted with pure evil."

From his writings, Fjord Fairlane wouldn't recognize evil if it was staring him in the face.

190 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:06:55pm

re: #183 zora

got a link?

It's the4 current comments on Gates of Vienna, under "Fjordman Speaks Out"

I'm sure I'm not supposed to link that site here (rightly so)

191 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:07:45pm
Saturday June 11 - Day 41: As I was doing research on the net, a thunder storm approached, but it was still very far away. I have never had any problems with electrical overcharges the last 15 years because I always use specialty electrical outputs with gas cylinder electrical overcharge protection. Suddenly my PC made a relatively large bang, and the electricity went out. Once electricity was back on I noticed that my PC was dead. FFS, not again... As it was in the evening, I couldn't fix it until Monday...

I prayed for the first time in a very long time today. I explained to God that unless he wanted the Marxist-Islamic alliance and the certain Islamic takeover of Europe to completely annihilate European Christendom within the next hundred years he must ensure that the warriors fighting for the preservation of European Christendom prevail. He must ensure that I succeed with my mission and as such; contribute to inspire thousands of other revolutionary conservatives/nationalists; anti-Communists and anti-Islamists throughout the European world.

192 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:08:20pm

re: #189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From his writings, Fjord Fairlane wouldn't recognize evil if it was staring him in the face.

Especially not from his own mirror.

193 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:08:48pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

Awww...He's an admirer of the Tea Party...

"In the US, the Tea party movement is one of the first physical, political manifestations which indicate that there is a great storm coming. The creation of similar conservative organizations, even the creation of revolutionary conservative movements such as the Knights Templar is just another manifestation that real resistance to the EUSSR/US cultural Marxist/multiculturalist hegemony is about to materialize."

"About to", pfft.

That guy needs to read their 50s-60s progenitors, the White Citizen's Councils. Identical axes to grind, identical language.

Same graphics department, too. [Link: www.citzenscouncils.com...]

194 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:09:09pm

re: #191 Sergey Romanov

Well, At least god didn't tell him to run for president.

195 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:09:24pm

re: #186 Killgore Trout

But did they email? The killer seems to indicate they were in contact.

Blogger eriksson said...

Thank you for your reply, Fjordman.

In his texts Anders Breivik writes that he has made attempts to meet you IRL but that you have disagreed to do so.

Did you learn anything about him from your correspondence with the man?

Fjordmans answer doesn't ,, well, answer the question!

196 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:09:28pm

re: #189 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From his writings, Fjord Fairlane wouldn't recognize evil if it was staring him in the face.

I continually get the impression he is basically saying:
"My words are not evil, but acting them out are."

197 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:10:07pm

re: #191 Sergey Romanov

He 'explained' this to God?

198 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:10:10pm

Two 7-8 year olds among the dead.

All I got is tears. There are no words.

199 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:10:19pm

re: #195 sattv4u2

Blogger eriksson said...

Thank you for your reply, Fjordman.

In his texts Anders Breivik writes that he has made attempts to meet you IRL but that you have disagreed to do so.

Did you learn anything about him from your correspondence with the man?

Fjordmans answer doesn't ,, well, answer the question!

Keep an eye on that for us please.

200 dragonfire1981  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:10:47pm

I can't help but wonder how far away we are from a similar attack on U.S. soil. I'd like to think it's a remote possibility but the way the extremism is bubbling to the surface these days I can't say that.

My gut instinct is that there will be a lot of crazy rhetoric going around especially between August and November 2012. I really fear how far someone might take the "No re-election for Obama at any cost" attitude.

I'd also like to comment that it sickens me how easily and quickly Pamela Geller can wash her hands of this and blame it on someone else. How do these people sleep at night?

201 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:11:39pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

FJORDMANS lengthly response

Blogger Fjordman said...

[...]Let us recall that Anders Behring Breivik has not yet been convicted of anything, but if he really did all of those horrible things he has now been accused of doing, I have no idea what caused him to snap like that.[...]

What a bullshit excuse. This wasn't snapping, it was the culmination of years of planning and preparation. They just want to paint him as having some sort of mental episode rather than deliberately taking their ideology to its extreme conclusion.

202 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:11:46pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Keep an eye on that for us please.

I have a feeling my eyes will start bleeding if I look there any longer

It is the 1st, and I can promise the last time I'll go there after this is over

I feel so dirty!

203 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:11:57pm

re: #196 Spocomptonite

I continually get the impression he is basically saying:
"My words are not evil, but acting them out are."

"I never come right out and say shoot the Muslims. I simply say we need to take extreme measures and reference famous battles and military actions"

204 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:13:25pm

This text will inspire some new McVeighs. But it should also - and I say should, not will - eradicate the cancerous growth that the "counter-Jihad movement" has become.

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:13:43pm

A person who knew that their hands were clean would be genuinely horrified by this, and be more appalled that this person had so misunderstood their ideas. They would be looking for signs that they had missed that this was someone on the edge, or someone capable of such evil.

All we're getting is smooth denials, deflections, nothing to see here, move along.

This does not raise my sympathy for these folks.

206 dragonfire1981  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:14:06pm

To expand on that thought, it just stuns me that people like Geller, Hoft, Spencer and so forth seem to not realize that their words and actions can have serious impacts.

LGF is a sane, logical blog. There's a warning that appears on EVERY SINGLE POST that states that ANY comments encouraging violence against anyone will not be tolerated.

All political blogs should have this.

All I know is that if I had an audience that was prone to violence I'd choose my words and message VERY carefully.

207 Spocomptonite  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:14:26pm

As SFZ said yesterday, this is like Norway's Oklahoma City. I fully expect groups sharing this terrorist's ideologies to plummet in popularity and public opinion like the Militia Movement did here after our bombing. And rightfully so. They deserve to get as much hate as they dish out.

208 Warberg  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:15:12pm
209 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:15:23pm

re: #178 Alexzander


3. Whats up with the Knights Templar? He seems to primarily identity with them as a political/organizational body. Could there be a lot of sympathy there for his views?

Mythos, really. They've always had this mystique. From Wiki's Knights Templar Legends page, this nutshell works well:

Revisionist historians and conspiracy theorists claim that the Knights Templar stored secret knowledge, linking them to myriad other subjects: the Rosicrucians, the Cathars, the Priory of Sion, King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table, the Hermetics, the Ebionites, the Rex Deus, lost relics or gospels of James the Just, Mary Magdalene or Jesus (such as a "Judas Testament"), King Solomon, Moses, and, ultimately, Hiram Abif and the mysteries of ancient Egypt. This, in turn, has contributed to the Knights Templar having several influences on popular culture.

Ironically, see tvtropes.

210 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:15:33pm

It's weird reading his diary for May, June, July... "Where was I on that day?"

211 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:17:42pm

Latest at GoV: (feeling the heat?)

"A Note About Comments
Fjordman asked me to close the comments on his most recent post.

If the trollish behavior spills over to other threads, I will close them, too.

Needless to say, comments are closed on this post. "

212 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:18:06pm

re: #200 dragonfire1981

I can't help but wonder how far away we are from a similar attack on U.S. soil. I'd like to think it's a remote possibility but the way the extremism is bubbling to the surface these days I can't say that.

My gut instinct is that there will be a lot of crazy rhetoric going around especially between August and November 2012. I really fear how far someone might take the "No re-election for Obama at any cost" attitude.

I'd also like to comment that it sickens me how easily and quickly Pamela Geller can wash her hands of this and blame it on someone else. How do these people sleep at night?

It's a lot closer than a remote possibility, namely because it keeps happening here. Especially now that opportunists like Herman Cain, who have the ethical code of a potato, are willing to put a black face on anti-Muslim hate.

People should not underestimate the moral weight that. HC is banking on it, and using it to exploit his duped fanbase.

Even a dumb bigot like Richard Land of the SBC sees through that old act, but this guy is a presidential candidate, and the Republican rank and file say *NOTHING* against what he's doing to the "Republican" brand. Not one peep. So these sentiments are a lot closer to home than some GoV/Geller loon in Norway.

213 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:19:34pm
Since this town has a limited variety of fast food I decided to drive down to the southern town, eat and pick up some Chinese takeaway. There was a relatively hot girl on the restaurant today checking me out. Refined individuals like myself is a rare commodity here so I notice I do get a lot of attention in both the southern and the northern town. It's the way I dress and look. There are mostly unrefined/un-cultivated people living here. I wear mostly the best pieces from my former life, which consists of very expensive brand clothing, LaCoste sweaters, piques etc. People can see from a mile away that I'm not from around here.
214 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:20:26pm

re: #198 ProLifeLiberal

To explain, a few children were given a small summer job of picking up any stray trash or recyclables.

I need to go a corner for a moment.

215 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:20:43pm

Spencer and Geller and their European counterparts have been inculcating a view among their followers that their governments are weak, powerless to stop the infiltration of the Moslem hordes, or even worse, in league with the global jihad and deliberately helping it spread.

I think this is why Breivik lashed out at the hated symbols of the government -- their offices, and their children. He must have felt they were more to blame than the radical Muslims, or else why didn't he attack a mosque or some other symbolic Islamic target?

216 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:21:25pm
Watching Spartacus - Blood & Sand, a brilliant series:-). It's my favourite one, in addition to Rome, Battlestar Galactica, Caprica and Stargate Universe!
217 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:21:41pm

re: #165 Gus 802

Check this out. I blew up one of the photos.

Image: image95A.jpg

The patch says "multiculti traitor hunting permit" and "Marxist hunter."

That's typical wingnut rhetoric.

In English, too.

218 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:22:19pm

re: #215 Charles

Spencer and Geller and their European counterparts have been inculcating a view among their followers that their governments are weak, powerless to stop the infiltration of the Moslem hordes, or even worse, in league with the global jihad and deliberately helping it spread.

I think this is why Breivik lashed out at the hated symbols of the government -- their offices, and their children. He must have felt they were more to blame than the radical Muslims, or else why didn't he attack a mosque or some other symbolic Islamic target?

Well, obviously because he was a top sekret Muslim (possibly originally from Kenya) who was part of an elaborate plan to discredit the Counter-Jihad.

219 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:22:29pm

re: #207 Spocomptonite

As SFZ said yesterday, this is like Norway's Oklahoma City. I fully expect groups sharing this terrorist's ideologies to plummet in popularity and public opinion like the Militia Movement did here after our bombing. And rightfully so. They deserve to get as much hate as they dish out.

Yeah but now we've got the tea party and Oath Keepers in their stead. Spencer/Geller find an audience with tea parties. I hope I'm wrong, but history tells me social/cultural conservatism will just morph into something else rather than diminish.

220 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:23:04pm

Wow, this "manifesto" he wrote is obsessive, but not disordered. It's highly organized - with dozens and dozens of Fjordman articles. I predict a visit from The Man in Fjordman's future.

221 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:23:30pm
Choosing complete isolation and asocial behaviour, in phases like these, would probably be a more pragmatical approach for ensuring secrecy. However, complete isolation and asocial behaviour can also defeat the whole purpose if you end up losing the love for the people you have sworn to protect. Because, why would you bless your people with the ultimate gift of love if every single person hates you?
222 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:23:51pm

re: #213 Sergey Romanov

Since this town has a limited variety of fast food I decided to drive down to the southern town, eat and pick up some Chinese takeaway. There was a relatively hot girl on the restaurant today checking me out. Refined individuals like myself is a rare commodity here so I notice I do get a lot of attention in both the southern and the northern town. It's the way I dress and look. There are mostly unrefined/un-cultivated people living here. I wear mostly the best pieces from my former life, which consists of very expensive brand clothing, LaCoste sweaters, piques etc. People can see from a mile away that I'm not from around here.

When I see guys who look like him, I roll up the windows.

223 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:24:22pm

Fringe group barred suspected Norway killer from forum

Anders Gravers, founder of Stop Islamisation of Europe (SIOE), said Anders Behring Breivik had made the application around 18 months ago.

Breivik said in an Internet posting in December 2009 (here) he had had discussions with SIOE, but Gravers said his organisation had no record of this.

"He has never been in contact with us and he has never given us any advice," Gravers told Reuters.

But he said it was possible Breivik had attended one of its demonstrations.

He said an SIOE member in the Faroe Islands had checked Breivik's Facebook "friends" on the social media site when he tried to join and discovered one who used a picture of Danish neo-Nazi leader Jonni Hansen as his profile picture.

"He advised us not to allow this guy to join or be able to post on the Facebook wall (message page)," said SIOE co-founder Stephen Gash.

224 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:24:30pm

re: #221 Sergey Romanov

Choosing complete isolation and asocial behaviour, in phases like these, would probably be a more pragmatical approach for ensuring secrecy. However, complete isolation and asocial behaviour can also defeat the whole purpose if you end up losing the love for the people you have sworn to protect. Because, why would you bless your people with the ultimate gift of love if every single person hates you?

That's the worst one yet.

225 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:24:34pm

re: #114 Sergey Romanov

I have an extremely strong psyche (stronger than anyone I have ever known) but I am seriously contemplating that it is perhaps biologically impossible to survive the mental, perhaps coupled with physical torture, I will be facing without completely breaking down on a psychological level. I guess I will have to wait and find out.

Not much of an ego, huh?

226 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:25:19pm

re: #224 wrenchwench

Talk about a christ complex, ugh.

227 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:25:26pm

re: #220 Charles

I hope they lock him up. It's obvious incitement.

228 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:26:06pm

re: #126 ralphieboy

If you haven't developed a sense of your own physical limits and overcome the delusion that you are not mortal by age 27 then you will not get much further...

Modern neuroscience holds that human cognitive development isn't complete until around age 26, and that physiological 'remodeling' happens all through life. If you look at the most famous members of the "27 club" - Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, and Kurt Cobain - one thing they all have in common is heavy drug and/or alcohol use, and though I don't think there's much evidence of it in the case of Janis and Jimi, the other three certainly exhibited serious depression which was certainly not helped by pumping themselves full of booze, heroin, and LSD. I don't know much of anything about Amy Winehouse, but I suspect she fits the pattern.

I think for those people it didn't have much to do with feeling immortal. People are generally not heavy drug users because they're happy.

This is, of course, just blathering speculation on my part.

I am not a big Amy Winehouse fan, and certainly not all great talents die prematurely, but if the pattern persists I think it's safe to say Kanye West will be with us well into his 90s.

229 [deleted]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:26:45pm
230 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:27:12pm

Oops, sorry. Charles, can you please delete double 229?

231 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:27:41pm

re: #228 negativ

if the pattern persists I think it's safe to say Kanye West will be with us well into his 90s.

Why do you hate us so much?
/

232 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:28:09pm

re: #230 Sergey Romanov

Oops, sorry. Charles, can you please delete double 229?

Doubles are an occasional glitch that only the original poster can see. Refresh and it will go away.

233 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:28:27pm

re: #215 Charles

Spencer and Geller and their European counterparts have been inculcating a view among their followers that their governments are weak, powerless to stop the infiltration of the Moslem hordes, or even worse, in league with the global jihad and deliberately helping it spread.

I think this is why Breivik lashed out at the hated symbols of the government -- their offices, and their children. He must have felt they were more to blame than the radical Muslims, or else why didn't he attack a mosque or some other symbolic Islamic target?

Same reason McVeigh attacked the Murrah building and same reason the tea party rails at the government for making their lives miserable rather than just directly confront the people they believe are the recipients of all the gubbmint goodies. Cowards.

Teabagger mentality.

234 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:29:59pm

re: #165 Gus 802

Check this out. I blew up one of the photos.

Image: image95A.jpg

The patch says "multiculti traitor hunting permit" and "Marxist hunter."

That's typical wingnut rhetoric.

WTF? for real.

So this guy has a mental age of 9?

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:30:03pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

In English, too.

Might have been something he ordered, or a gift from an American on-line pal, or something like that.

236 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:30:05pm

There are huge sections of the text that seem to indicate that there is an underground 'knights templar" of some sort. Anyone previously familar with this acronym PCCTS?

237 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:30:05pm

re: #232 goddamnedfrank

No, I accidentally reposted. Twitchy.

238 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:31:25pm
Later that day, while I was watching an episode of True Blood, I saw a large van driving by the house and parking next to my car. There was at least 4 people inside. Nice, I thought; it's probably a SWAT team coming to skull-fuck me. The farmer must have tipped them off... Thank God, it was only 4 Polacks looking for worked and I sent them on their way. It would have been tempting to hire them to mix my ANALFO...
239 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:31:33pm

re: #234 ggt

This sort of thing isn't exactly uncommon.

I've seen those "Liberal Hunting Permits" around in COS and Oklahoma. Just shows it isn't just here.

240 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:31:33pm

re: #220 Charles

Wow, this "manifesto" he wrote is obsessive, but not disordered. It's highly organized - with dozens and dozens of Fjordman articles. I predict a visit from The Man in Fjordman's future.

The sensible thing to do would be for Fjordman to contact The Man himself, and explain who he is, making it clear he would like to help with the investigation if he can be useful.

241 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:31:40pm

From section 3.16 of his manifesto:


The PCCTS, Knights Templar serve as an independent pan-European Military and Criminal Tribunal in the current Western European civil war. We have come to the conclusion that the democratical struggle to save Europe has been lost. Our purpose and goal is to defeat the cultural Marxist/Multiculturalist Alliance of Europe, seize political and military control of Western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda.

PCCTS activities will continue in all three phases of the European civil war until our objectives have been completed.


- Phase 1 – 1999-2030
- Phase 2 – 2030-2070
- Phase 3 – 2070-2083

242 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:32:15pm

re: #233 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Same reason McVeigh attacked the Murrah building and same reason the tea party rails at the government for making their lives miserable rather than just directly confront the people they believe are the recipients of all the gubbmint goodies. Cowards.

Teabagger mentality.

More specifically, Arizona teabagger mentality, the government can't or won't save us, we must save ourselves:

Your Help Is Needed

One of the gravest threats facing America today is the lack of security and enforcement along the U.S. and Mexican border. The consequences of this lack of security have yielded an unparalleled invasion of drug cartels, violent gangs, an estimated 20 million illegal aliens, and even terrorists.

Because of the Federal Government's failure to stop this invasion, the State of Arizona signed into law SB 1406. Part of this important legislation established this website for the purpose of raising funds through donations from private citizens, businesses, and corporations across the country in an effort to finance and finish building our border fence. One hundred percent of the funds raised will be held in a trust fund account in the Arizona State Treasurer's Office. The bill also created the Joint Border Security Advisory Committee for oversight and accountability of these funds. Additionally, in an effort to contain costs, inmate labor will be utilized in building the border fence.

243 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:32:34pm

re: #227 Sergey Romanov

I hope they lock him up. It's obvious incitement.

That will be interesting. It would be nearly impossible to claim incitement using US speech laws.

Writing from somewhere else and publishing on US servers, dunno about that, but it would depend on that country's laws. But our bar is set too high to get fjordman on incitement.

244 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:33:07pm

re: #236 Alexzander

There are huge sections of the text that seem to indicate that there is an underground 'knights templar" of some sort. Anyone previously familar with this acronym PCCTS?

[Link: www.pccts.com...]

245 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:33:24pm

re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist

The Knights Templar were disbanded in 1312.

So you say.../

246 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:33:52pm

re: #241 Alexzander

A criminal and military tribunal, huh? Now, who does that sound like... OH YEAH: the 9/11 Twoofer's NYC-CAN independent commission.

247 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:33:58pm

re: #243 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He is in Norway.

248 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:34:21pm

re: #242 wrenchwench

More specifically, Arizona teabagger mentality, the government can't or won't save us, we must save ourselves:

Confederate behavior.

249 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:34:28pm

Norway, Islam and the threat of the West

In 1969, for example, an Australian Jew who set fire to Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem was dismissed as a "madman" and sent for psychiatric treatment; end of story. The right-wing Jewish fundamentalists plotting to destroy the mosque, and the nearby Dome of the Rock, lived to fight another day. I suspect that that is what will happen with the Norwegian bomber/shooter; his right-wing links and Christian fundamentalist contacts will be dismissed as irrelevant. This, we will be told, was the work of a "deranged" person "acting independently". Ergo, the only organised "terror threats" to civilisation are still "Islamic-related" and the focus of anti-terror legislation and efforts must remain in the Muslim world and on Muslim communities in Europe and the USA.

If we allow this to happen, we will be doing the world a great disservice, not least because the new right is on the rise across the West - and Oklahoma was proof that its followers are capable of immense destruction.

250 Winny Spencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:34:29pm

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

251 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:34:58pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Fringe group barred suspected Norway killer from forum

Wait, so they've "never been in contact" with him but claim to have barred him anyway? Well, logical consistency was never their strong suit.

252 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:35:09pm

re: #213 Sergey Romanov

Really?

253 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:35:11pm

re: #240 SanFranciscoZionist

The sensible thing to do would be for Fjordman to contact The Man himself, and explain who he is, making it clear he would like to help with the investigation if he can be useful.

That alone could take weeks.

/

254 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:35:27pm

re: #251 goddamnedfrank

Wait, so they've "never been in contact" with him but claim to have barred him anyway? Well, logical consistency was never their strong suit.

Sounds like they banned him based on his reputation, without communicating with him directly.

255 brownbagj  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:35:31pm

re: #251 goddamnedfrank

Cartoons don't have to be consistent.

256 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:35:34pm

re: #236 Alexzander

There are huge sections of the text that seem to indicate that there is an underground 'knights templar" of some sort. Anyone previously familar with this acronym PCCTS?

Pauperes Commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici

257 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:35:39pm

re: #244 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.pccts.com...]

I'm afraid of clicking on that link...

258 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:35:49pm

re: #233 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Same reason McVeigh attacked the Murrah building and same reason the tea party rails at the government for making their lives miserable rather than just directly confront the people they believe are the recipients of all the gubbmint goodies. Cowards.

Teabagger mentality.

From the manifesto: section 3.22 Using terror as a method for waking up the masses – many of our people will hate us for it

(yes, that's the title)

259 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:36:08pm

re: #251 goddamnedfrank

Wait, so they've "never been in contact" with him but claim to have barred him anyway? Well, logical consistency was never their strong suit.

I also sort of doubt they banned him. They might have deleted his account to cover their asses.

260 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:36:43pm

I haven't seen anything on his family. There was a picture posted of him with what could have been his mother and sister. I don't know if they are relevant to his state of mind, or if one should feel sorry for them.
Anything I missed?

261 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:37:03pm

re: #257 Alexzander

I'm afraid of clicking on that link...

Phobius Clickus?

262 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:37:34pm

re: #256 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pauperes Commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici

The confused thinking behind adopting that name is mind-bending. I guess they're solely focusing on the Templars as an order who fought Muslims.

263 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:37:50pm

re: #261 Killgore Trout

Phobius Clickus?

Phobius FBIius Watchlistus

264 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:37:57pm

re: #261 Killgore Trout

Phobius Clickus?

"I went to High School with that guy!" - Bigus Dikus

265 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:38:42pm

re: #254 thedopefishlives

Sounds like they banned him based on his reputation, without communicating with him directly.

Sounds like they panicked while making sandwiches.

266 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:39:06pm

re: #262 SanFranciscoZionist

The confused thinking behind adopting that name is mind-bending. I guess they're solely focusing on the Templars as an order who fought Muslims.

Filtering out information they choose to ignore is their specialty.

267 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:39:15pm
If I had known then, what I know today, by following this guide, I would have managed to complete the operation within 30 days instead of using almost 80 days. By following my guide, anyone can create the foundation for a spectacular operation with only 1 person in less than a month even if adding 2 "resting" days!:-)
268 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:40:11pm

Wow, I see what you folks were talking about. This is a terror manual - he goes into great detail about assembling and testing the bomb.

269 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:40:12pm

re: #267 Sergey Romanov

I want to smack him just for the smiley.

270 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:40:38pm

re: #267 Sergey Romanov

I'm guessing its going to be illegal to distribute this document pretty soon.

271 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:40:44pm

re: #257 Alexzander

I'm afraid of clicking on that link...

For some reason, they have a link to trump.com, and some weird bomb map of the US

272 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:41:17pm

So in his fantasies he thinks relatively hot chicks think along these lines:

"OMG, he is god's gift, this guy is so freaking perfect no one could stand to be in his presence, they would just melt or something . . . . I swear, if he touched me I'd faint, right there and then. . . ."

What a immature self-absorbed dick.

273 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:41:21pm

re: #270 Alexzander

I'm guessing its going to be illegal to distribute this document pretty soon.

I wouldn't keep a copy lying around your hard drive, for those of you who downloaded it.

274 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:41:36pm

re: #270 Alexzander

I'm guessing its going to be illegal to distribute this document pretty soon.

In what country?

275 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:41:36pm

re: #268 Charles

Scary stuff. Yes, our good friends are in big trouble.

276 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:42:02pm

re: #270 Alexzander

I think it already is...

277 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:42:16pm

re: #268 Charles

Wow, I see what you folks were talking about. This is a terror manual - he goes into great detail about assembling and testing the bomb.

Yeeeah, that's the short way to get on an FBI watchlist. Methinks our little friends from the counter-jihad movement are going to have some 'splainin' to do.

278 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:42:19pm

re: #273 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, best course of action.

279 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:42:25pm

From his manifesto again (my bolding):

3.20 PCCTS, Knights Templar - Organisational overview

Official name: Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici (PCCTS), (the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon)

Nick name: Knights Templar

Type: European Christian military order/tribunal

Role: Defender of Europe, defender of European Christendom, destroyer of Marxism, reconquista

Allegiance: The free indigenous peoples of Europe and the European Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox Curch

Size: N/A, estimate varies from 15-80 Justiciar Knights in Western Europe (2008 estimate), unknown how many civilian members

Patron and protector: Bernard of Clairvaux and Jacques de Molay

Guardian saint: Saint George of Lydda

Banner: Cross of the martyrs (a variation of the cross of St. George, red cross on white background)

Military badge 1: 2 knights riding one horse

Military badge 2: skull with symbols of the three primary hate-ideologies (Islam, Communism/multiculturalism and National Socialism) impaled by the cross of the martyrs.

Motto: Martyrdom before dhimmitude

Organisational characteristics: brotherly love, devoted obedience, embracement of martyrdom, voluntary poverty

Org. type: Military order/tribunal (Military/criminal tribunal), one of several patriotic and armed European Resistance Movements/Indigenous Rights Movements/European Crusader Movement

Re-founded: London, UK, April 2002

Org. goal: organisational goals are two fold as we are both an Indigenous Rights Movement and a pan-European Crusader Movement.
20-70 year plan: Seize political and military power in all Western European countries. Destroy and ban political Marxism/cultural Marxism (multiculturalism) as political concepts in Europe and drive out Islam for a third time.

I wonder if he just made all of that up? I Wonder if Fjordman or others were ever invited to join?

280 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:43:21pm

Indigenous Rights Movment?

How far back does it go to define "Indigenous"?

281 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:43:40pm

re: #274 ggt

In what country?

Definitely Canada and Israel. Not sure about US laws on this kind of stuff - but its basically a terrorist cell manual. Pretty fucked up.

282 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:43:42pm

Feels like I just ate a big piece of crazy.

283 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:43:51pm

re: #279 Alexzander

Motto: Martyrdom before dhimmitude

Says it all right there, really.

284 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:43:52pm

I gotta go.


bbl

285 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:44:03pm

re: #279 Alexzander

If this isn't a delusion, Europe needs to be on High Alert, and hunting these animals down before another terrorist attack occurs.

286 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:44:30pm

re: #282 Sergey Romanov

Feels like I just ate a big piece of crazy.

Same here. Not sure what to do now to clear my headspace. Cooking a fancy tapas dinner for the family tonight.. hmm

287 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:45:18pm

re: #270 Alexzander

I'm guessing its going to be illegal to distribute this document pretty soon.

Too late. I'm guessing it is going to be illegal to buy large quantities of fertilizer without showing your long and short form birth certificate and and farm lease/ownership documents with google earth coordinates.

288 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:45:21pm

re: #285 ProLifeLiberal

If this isn't a delusion, Europe needs to be on High Alert, and hunting these animals down before another terrorist attack occurs.

Absolutely. Honestly this frightens me much more than any terrorist threats in the past ever have.

289 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:45:34pm
Anti-Islamist/Jihadi

Islamist/Jihadi organisations – PCCTS have a hostile stance towards any and all Islamist organisations. This also includes Muslim nationalist organisations such as those found in Turkey. We may however choose to cooperate temporary (in phase 2 or 3) with nationalist Muslim organisations or rival Muslim organisations as long as the cooperation benefits our cause.

290 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:46:53pm

re: #281 Alexzander

Definitely Canada and Israel. Not sure about US laws on this kind of stuff - but its basically a terrorist cell manual. Pretty fucked up.

Not illegal in the US, even with the explicit instructions. Downloading it may put you on a watch list (may, if they get your ip from the download site OR if they are sniffing OR if...), but in and of itself it won't bring people knocking at your door.

291 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:46:56pm

A little more to suggest many involved:


Org. ranks: There were 9 founding members from 8 different countries, names are kept confidential. Operative ranks:

- Justiciar Knight Commander: commander of a cell network

- Justiciar Knight Operative: operative of the cell under the authority of the commander

- Overseer: civilian rank

292 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:47:12pm

re: #279 Alexzander

From his manifesto again (my bolding):

I wonder if he just made all of that up? I Wonder if Fjordman or others were ever invited to join?

I think it's probably mostly fantasy but this is why the authorities are going to investigate his contacts. They do need to make sure that this framework isn't in place.

293 Alexzander  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:48:03pm

Ughh. I agree this must be fantasy but its still scary:


Org. presence: Primarily Western Europe, limited presence in the US and Eastern Europe. This may change in the future but will be limited to European territories/countries (US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa included).
294 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:48:05pm

re: #291 Alexzander

Org. ranks: There were 9 founding members from 8 different countries, names are kept confidential.


That's an interesting detail.

295 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:48:19pm

re: #288 Alexzander

Norway is especially under threat. The government has suffered more damage than any recent terrorist attack has done to a country.

Again, 2 ministries lost their buildings at least temporarily (Oil Ministry possibly permanently, part of the roof caved into the building, and the 17 story build hold offices for the Prime Minister and other important officials in also out of commission.

The only nation that I think understands the severity of this is India. This is worse than 9/11 in alot of ways.

296 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:48:34pm

I'm so tired of all the all the racist and nationalist bullshit. Hasn't anyone ever heard of hybrid vigor?

297 zora  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:48:43pm

re: #260 Naso Tang

appears he lived with his mother who he was upset with for giving him some type of throat infection that almost thwarted his mission.

298 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:48:56pm

re: #292 Killgore Trout

I think it's probably mostly fantasy but this is why the authorities are going to investigate his contacts. They do need to make sure that this framework isn't in place.

I bet Jack Bauer could get their names if given 30 minutes alone with him.

299 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:49:32pm

re: #296 prononymous

I'm so tired of all the all the racist and nationalist bullshit. Hasn't anyone ever heard of hybrid vigor?

Yeah. It's the one thing that has white nationalists oozing with hate, and envy.

300 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:49:54pm

re: #298 Naso Tang

I bet Jack Bauer could get their names if given 30 minutes alone with him.

This made me laugh.

I can just see the scene now.

301 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:50:00pm
The following short introduction is presented in order to prepare the Justiciar Knight for the fertiliser acquisition phase of his operation. Justiciar Knights will establish a cover and must therefore learn the very minimum about agricultural practices. You must learn enough about agriculture in order to pass any scrutiny checks the fertiliser clerk may present in the form of questions. You must learn to think, dress and act like a farmer and become confident through study of agricultural practises and your agricultural cover. Before you move forward with the acquisition phase you must determine several factors when establishing the cover.
302 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:51:21pm

re: #290 kirkspencer

Not illegal in the US, even with the explicit instructions. Downloading it may put you on a watch list (may, if they get your ip from the download site OR if they are sniffing OR if...), but in and of itself it won't bring people knocking at your door.

That said, there's a bit in the front that WILL (if true) be of extreme interest to authorities. That's the bit about distribution.

If you have received this book, you are either one of my former 7000 patriotic Facebook friends or you are the friend of one of my FB friends.

303 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:51:29pm

re: #297 zora

appears he lived with his mother who he was upset with for giving him some type of throat infection that almost thwarted his mission.

"..lived with his mother.." at 32.

Any profilers online here....?

304 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:52:32pm

Some of the hate-brigade are saying it was a false flag attack because "Why would an Islamist group take credit for the bombings if they weren't actually behind them?" Apparently, the evidence pointing to Breivik simply means the government had decided to protect Muslims.

Epic fail.

305 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:53:03pm

re: #303 Naso Tang

"..lived with his mother.." at 32.

Any profilers online here...?

Caution, there. In the US its a warning indicator. Is it one in Norway?

306 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:53:18pm

re: #289 Sergey Romanov

Anti-Islamist/Jihadi

Islamist/Jihadi organisations – PCCTS have a hostile stance towards any and all Islamist organisations. This also includes Muslim nationalist organisations such as those found in Turkey. We may however choose to cooperate temporary (in phase 2 or 3) with nationalist Muslim organisations or rival Muslim organisations as long as the cooperation benefits our cause.

Reminds me of Marcus Garvey meeting with the KKK in 1922.

Somebody tell these dorks the enemy of myself is not my friend.

307 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:53:53pm

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some of the hate-brigade are saying it was a false flag attack because "Why would an Islamist group take credit for the bombings if they weren't actually behind them?" Apparently, the evidence pointing to Breivik simply means the government had decided to protect Muslims.

Epic fail.

To answer their retarded question, Islamists can be opportunistic. They would love to try to advance their agenda by means of a terrorist bombing they didn't commit, if they could.

308 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:54:29pm

re: #304 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A stupider question couldn't have been asked.

309 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:55:35pm

re: #308 Sergey Romanov

A stupider question couldn't have been asked.

"Wait...YOU MEAN THEY LIED?!"

310 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:56:41pm

re: #301 Sergey Romanov

This guy has really done his homework. I hope all police and intelligence agencies are pouring over this material and tracking leads.

311 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:56:49pm

re: #309 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Wait...YOU MEAN THEY LIED?!"

Doubly funny, since that statement would be coming from people who think Muslims do nothing BUT lie.

312 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:57:27pm

re: #311 thedopefishlives

Doubly funny, since that statement would be coming from people who think Muslims do nothing BUT lie.

Sometimes, they lie about lying, just to mess with you.

313 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:57:43pm

re: #305 kirkspencer

Caution, there. In the US its a warning indicator. Is it one in Norway?

He didn't need to financially and he didn't care about her since he knew he wouldn't be seeing her again for a long time, so I would say it shows an emotional immaturity that we will no doubt hear more about eventually from ex girlfriends or maybe boyfriends.

314 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:58:04pm

re: #276 Sergey Romanov

I think it already is...

Not in the US, anyway. This is for sale at Amazon, and was one of Timothy McVeigh's "textbooks".

315 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:58:31pm

re: #310 Idle Drifter

Yeah, it's amazing (in a bad sense) how much he did - and recorded. He's a talented, smart guy. What kind of brain damage he has, I wonder, beyond xenophobia and ethnic nationalism?

316 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 3:59:08pm

re: #116 Gus 802

Here's a couple more:

Image: image95.jpg

Looks like he took a Ruger Mini 30 and bolted every tactical looking piece of shit he could find to the thing.

317 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:00:57pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

In English, too.

That made me wonder. The photo has a creepy fake appearance. Do we have it's provenance?

318 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:01:04pm

re: #314 negativ

Not in the US, anyway. This is for sale at Amazon, and was one of Timothy McVeigh's "textbooks".

The Anarchist Cookbook is for sale on Amazon too.

319 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:01:16pm

re: #273 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've got worse stuff that I purchased from Palidin Press back in the mid 70's early 80's.

320 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:02:05pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

That made me wonder. The photo has a creepy fake appearance. Do we have it's provenance?

Gus 802 found it. Gus?

321 M. Dubious  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:02:44pm

LGF is linked to more than 20 times in that manifesto.

322 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:03:46pm

re: #321 harald

LGF is linked to more than 20 times in that manifesto.

Exhaustively discussed in the beginning of the thread.

323 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:03:53pm

re: #306 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Reminds me of Marcus Garvey meeting with the KKK in 1922.

Somebody tell these dorks the enemy of myself is not my friend.

at least Garvey was ten times smarter than the fools with hoods...Garvey may have had some wild ideas but he was a very intelligent, decent man

324 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:04:00pm

re: #317 Decatur Deb

Yeah, that photo just screamed "PHOTOSHOPPED!!!1!" to me.

325 M. Dubious  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:04:50pm

re: #322 Sergey Romanov

Sorry. Just got here.

326 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:06:10pm

re: #320 wrenchwench

Gus 802 found it. Gus?

I tried doing a quick search. Nothing.

327 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:09:00pm

re: #323 albusteve

at least Garvey was ten times smarter than the fools with hoods...Garvey may have had some wild ideas but he was a very intelligent, decent man

Yeah but he was rightly discredited because of it, and it vindicated his critics like DuBois. When that news hit the Black press, Garvey got dropped like a hot potato. His influence didn't stop, e.g. Malcolm X, but he really mopped himself into a corner with that one.

328 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:09:02pm

There's another group of murderous whackos calling themselves the Knights Templar.

An organised Mexican crime group calling itself the Knights Templar is distributing booklets – claiming to fight a war against poverty, tyranny and injustice.

The group, blamed for murders, extortion, drug trafficking and attacks on police, are appealing to citizens in a part of the country where the government claims to have largely taken down major drug traffickers.

Analysts say the propaganda is trying to transform a drug cartel into a social movement, like what right-wing paramilitary groups did in Colombia in the 1990s against leftist rebels — a fight in which both sides used the drug trade to finance their causes.

[...]

Image: article-0-0D16604700000578-382_233x387.jpg

329 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:09:08pm

re: #326 Gus 802

I tried doing a quick search. Nothing.

We'll learn a little when the type of "full-auto" he used is discussed.

330 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:09:47pm

OT, Dickie Vitale responded to my tweet!

lol!

331 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:10:33pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Kind of like Austin.

Yo!

332 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:10:35pm

I hear he has confessed and called his actions "horrible but necessary".

333 M. Dubious  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:10:57pm

He refers to a "heated argument" with Charles. Did he have an account here?

334 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:11:00pm

re: #330 Stanley Sea

who?

335 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:11:29pm

re: #332 Sergey Romanov

I hear he has confessed and called his actions "horrible but necessary".

Fits with the manifesto.

336 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:11:47pm

re: #333 harald

Again, if you read the beginning of the thread, as I have suggested, you will see that it's Fjordman's essay, not AB's.

337 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:12:06pm

re: #318 Charles

The Anarchist Cookbook is for sale on Amazon too.

All sorts of fun and interesting books available at Amazon.

I even own a few of them %-)

338 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:12:53pm

re: #334 Sergey Romanov

who?

Dick Vitale, Basketball dude. FYI. @DickieV

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

339 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:13:30pm

re: #327 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah but he was rightly discredited because of it, and it vindicated his critics like DuBois. When that news hit the Black press, Garvey got dropped like a hot potato. His influence didn't stop, e.g. Malcolm X, but he really mopped himself into a corner with that one.

interesting stuff...DuBois and his early activism...I have property in Jamaica and got into that stuff tracing the roots of the Rastas...I've forgotten much of what I learned, I admit

340 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:15:09pm

re: #338 Stanley Sea

Dick Vitale, Basketball dude. FYI. @DickieV

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Again, OT. :)

341 M. Dubious  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:15:56pm

re: #336 Sergey Romanov

Oh, again I apologize. Are all those links to LGF from fjordman's "essays" as well? This stuff is confusing.

342 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:17:41pm

re: #341 harald

Yes, they're all from Fjordman, whose essays AB copied wholesale (with attribution and maybe sometimes without - hard to check in such a large book). Note that they run gamut from positive mentions to the LGF-bashing after F had been banned.

I think Charles needs a separate post on this, since this question will inevitably come up.

343 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:20:43pm

re: #339 albusteve

interesting stuff...DuBois and his early activism...I have property in Jamaica and got into that stuff tracing the roots of the Rastas...I've forgotten much of what I learned, I admit

DuBois never lost the activist edge. Very interesting guy - the 20th century in America would have looked a lot different without him.

344 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:20:47pm
3.10 Assimilation policy/demands/offer for Muslim individuals living in Europe (this offer will expire on Jan 1st, 2020)

The following assimilation policy is to be accepted by all Muslims who currently live on European soil and want to continue to live in Europe. The deadline is Jan. 1st, 2020.

Failure to accept and comply with given policies will result in immediate deportation for you and your closest family (individual evaluation is required). The deportations will be effectuated as soon as the current regime(s) have been neutralised and once a cultural conservative government has been formed. Failure to comply within the deadline (2020) will result in losing the possibility of future re-evaluation.


1. Convert to Christianity (Orthodox, Catholic or Protestant).

Every individual is to accept baptism, the ritual act by which one is admitted to membership of the Christian Church, as a member of the particular Church in which the baptism is administered.

Attempt of al-taqiyya (Islamic deceit) for shorter or longer periods in order to try to wait for a regime change will not be tolerated. The convert will celebrate Christian holidays and adopt mainstream Christian customs and has to attend Church at least once a year during the full duration of the assimilation period (50) before he or any member of his family is allowed to follow a purely secular lifestyle. Secular Muslims are considered fully Muslim as long as they have not converted. The reason is because even secular Muslims celebrate Islamic holidays and perform certain Islamic religious or political rituals.


2. Name change

During the required baptism the individual is to be given a Christian/European traditional name (first, middle and last name). No Arab/Asian/Islamic name is allowed (including The 99 Names of Allah).

3. Not allowed to practice your ”mother tongue” or Arabic

It is strictly prohibited to practice the individuals ”mother tongue” - Farsi, Urdu, Arabic, Somali etc. in any way – both in writing or vocally (this applies in all areas of society - home and elsewhere). Obviously this does not apply to Muslims living in Europe who are practising a European language (Bosniaks etc.).


4. All mosques and Islamic centers will be demolished or converted

All mosques which were built for the purpose of being a mosque will be demolished. All other buildings which were previously converted will be re-converted to their former use.


5. All Islamic and/or Arab-style or equivalent buildings/artwork will be demolished or modified

All traces of Islamic culture in Europe will be eradicated, even locations considered historical.


6. Attempts to celebrate Islamic holidays, exercise or portray Sharia/Islamic codes/markers is strictly prohibited

An attempt of celebrating Ramadan, Eid or any Islamic holiday is strictly prohibited.

This includes all cultural related rituals, dress codes, Islamic religious or cultural circumcisions, Islamic preparation of food, the use of any Muslim flag or identification (crescent moon), religious or cultural markings.


7. Measures taken against attempts of demographic warfare

All “ex-Muslim couples” (where both parents were/are Muslims) will not be allowed to exceed a birth rate of 2. Any breach of this policy will be considered a breach of the assimilation policies.


8. Correspondence with other Muslims abroad is strictly prohibited

All forms of correspondence (electronically, telephonic etc.) with Muslims living abroad is strictly forbidden. This includes contact with Muslim family in the country you originated from.


9. All travel to Muslim countries/territories or to any country where Muslims make out more than 20% of the population is strictly prohibited


345 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:23:09pm

re: #344 Sergey Romanov

Very telling. Looks like a detailed GoV comment.

346 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:23:25pm

re: #344 Sergey Romanov

Any mention of the role of Jews in this brave new Europe this SOB wanted to rule?

347 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:24:31pm

re: #346 SanFranciscoZionist

Any mention of the role of Jews in this brave new Europe this SOB wanted to rule?

I'm guessing that's why he supported Israel. To have a place for them.

348 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:24:46pm

re: #344 Sergey Romanov

Inquisition part 82.

Don't Europeans like him ever tire of this convert-or-die pogrom mentality? Or is this all they have?

349 M. Dubious  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:24:47pm

re: #346 SanFranciscoZionist

He seems pro Israel.

350 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:25:54pm

re: #343 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

DuBois never lost the activist edge. Very interesting guy - the 20th century in America would have looked a lot different without him.

indeed, and sadly he might be close to being forgotten...in my view the entire civil rights movement, it's evolution and anthology is one of the great stories of American history...but it's glossed over quickly in the public schools as is most history

351 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:26:04pm

re: #347 wrenchwench

I'm guessing that's why he supported Israel. To have a place for them.

Yeah, it's third position/separation of the races 2.0 crap.

352 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:26:20pm

re: #346 SanFranciscoZionist

Any mention of the role of Jews in this brave new Europe this SOB wanted to rule?

IIUC he has nothing against Jews as such. Of course, they have to be right-wing Jews. All leftists (regardless of ethnicity) will be concentrated in Anatolia (except for ~200,000 killed immediately).

353 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:27:32pm

Here's what 7 months in jail can do to a murderous psycho:

New court documents say the Tucson shooting rampage suspect was put on a 24-hour suicide watch at a federal prison in Missouri after he asked a staff psychologist to kill him.

A 24-page filing by federal prosecutors also says Jared Lee Loughner has been pacing in his cell, crying for hours at a time and claiming to hear messages from a radio.

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has denied an emergency motion by defense lawyers to keep prison officials from forcibly medicating Loughner with a psychotropic drug.

Loughner has pleaded not guilty to 49 charges in the January shooting that killed six people and wounded 13 others, including U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

He's been at the Missouri facility since May 27 after being judged mentally unfit to stand trial.

Totally different kind of psycho from Breivik, IMHO.

354 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:27:48pm

re: #350 albusteve

indeed, and sadly he might be close to being forgotten...in my view the entire civil rights movement, it's evolution and anthology is one of the great stories of American history...but it's glossed over quickly in the public schools as is most history

Private schools aren't much better. Black parents won't let WEB, or any of our history for that matter be forgotten. Other parents, well, who knows about them.

355 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:28:40pm

re: #344 Sergey Romanov

What the shit?!? Wow. I'm surprised he doesn't mandate that all non-blond Muslims bleach their hair and eat lutefisk at every meal.

356 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:28:53pm

Damn bunch of idiots that run this Condo want another $5,000.00 special assessment charge to repair the sprinklers. I spent about an hour yesterday and 20 minutes today along with $9.97 in parts and raised/cleaned out/unstuck all the the ones along the front sidewalk and a couple of the ones across the front of the building before they made me stop.

I'm not allowed to work on the "facilities" because I might be injured and then sue them or something. How am I going to injure myself digging a six inch deep by four inch wide hole around a sprinkler head with a garden trowel?

I do seem to have really pissed the board off though, their major complaint in asking for the assessment was that many of the heads along the front sidewalk didn't work, but they all do now, oops. ;)
(WTF? $5000.00 to repair something that took me an hour and about $10.00 in parts?)

I have a feeling it has something to do with them never upgrading the elevator after the last special assessment that was specifically for that. All that money got spent on the landscaping upgrades and now they are just trying to cover their ass by charging $5000.00 for a job that amounts to $40.00 in materials plus at most five or six hours labor.

Oh well, they are just going to have to find another way to rip the tenants off because "Stealth Sprinkler Repair Inc." will be out there at 3:00am completing the job. About 16 more heads working perfectly and they won't have anything left at all to complain about...

Derp!

357 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:29:13pm

re: #349 harald

He seems pro Israel.

Evidence of that? (Entirely possible, bleah.)

Also, that has nothing to do with his feelings about Jews in "Christian" countries.

358 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:30:13pm

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

IIUC he has nothing against Jews as such. Of course, they have to be right-wing Jews. All leftists (regardless of ethnicity) will be concentrated in Anatolia (except for ~200,000 killed immediately).

That kind of plan makes him out to be insane, but no it's no more so than 'Mein Kampf', which might have seemed crazier in 1930 than in 1940.

359 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:30:26pm

re: #357 SanFranciscoZionist

Evidence of that? (Entirely possible, bleah.)

Also, that has nothing to do with his feelings about Jews in "Christian" countries.

I've quoted some of his "pro-Israel"/anti-Palestinian rants. "Muslim antisemitism" is one of his main arguments, akshully.

360 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:31:16pm

re: #359 Sergey Romanov

I've quoted some of his "pro-Israel"/anti-Palestinian rants. "Muslim antisemitism" is one of his main arguments, akshully.

Sigh.

361 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:31:27pm

re: #355 goddamnedfrank

What the shit?!? Wow. I'm surprised he doesn't mandate that all non-blond Muslims bleach their hair and eat lutefisk at every meal.

Probably because he didn't think of it at the time. I'm sure he'd think of that as a brilliant idea, if you brought it up.

362 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:31:52pm

re: #352 Sergey Romanov

IIUC he has nothing against Jews as such. Of course, they have to be right-wing Jews.

Why, he might even hire Aunt Milty for a cabinet position..and without a loyalty oath, even. ///

363 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:32:22pm

re: #362 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Why, he might even hire Aunt Milty for a cabinet position..and without a loyalty oath, even. ///

Image: funny-pictures-cat-on-cabinet.jpg

364 elizajane  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:32:59pm

re: #350 albusteve

indeed, and sadly he might be close to being forgotten...in my view the entire civil rights movement, it's evolution and anthology is one of the great stories of American history...but it's glossed over quickly in the public schools as is most history

Not in Berkeley! Trust me, in Berkeley, in every single year of primary school, the students learn exactly two things:
1. Martin Luther King
2. Recycling
and sometimes 3. Internment of Japanese-Americans

My years in Berkeley. When I thought I had become a Republican (I was wrong).

365 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:33:21pm

re: #356 ausador

Derp!

Ugh, housing association boards. Known countrywide for their massive derpitude.

366 sagehen  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:34:00pm

re: #344 Sergey Romanov

um.... I seem to remember a similar set of demands made on Jews. They called it The Inquisition.

367 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:34:07pm

re: #354 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Private schools aren't much better. Black parents won't let WEB, or any of our history for that matter be forgotten. Other parents, well, who knows about them.

have to rely on sociology and black studies stuff in the public domain...as for me my interest came about from my excessive urge to know and understand the Delta blues....then one thing leads to another...we need to promote curiosity in this country...the more you learn, the more you understand

368 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:34:20pm

Hey guys some good news, I got a computer before heading out to college, and now one year or so after graduating I'm finally getting myself a new one!

This bad baby is going to be named Sekhmet, (though I'll probably call her Sakmet, since its easier to pronounce) because of how much ass she'll kick. (My current computer is Bastet notice a theme?)

Her graphics card is going to be about 3 steps above my current one, she's going to have twice as many gigs of ram, and be a six core with each core only slightly less powerful than my current one core machine.

She won't be arriving till around August eight but when she does there won't be a computer game out there I can't play!

369 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:34:59pm

re: #356 ausador

heh...bend over

370 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:35:58pm

re: #368 jamesfirecat

Every geek needs a computer naming scheme. My current one is Tolkien; my router is Middle-Earth, and my computers are all appropriately named. The lord of the manor is Aragorn, my wife's laptop is Arwen, etc.

371 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:36:11pm

re: #366 sagehen

um... I seem to remember a similar set of demands made on Jews. They called it The Inquisition.

The remaining Muslims of Spain got the same deal. This has been vehemently defended as just and proper by the stalkerblog.

372 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:36:40pm

Gates of Vienna has closed comments because people keep asking Fjordy about his relationship with the terrorist.

373 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:36:50pm

re: #364 elizajane

Not in Berkeley! Trust me, in Berkeley, in every single year of primary school, the students learn exactly two things:
1. Martin Luther King
2. Recycling
and sometimes 3. Internment of Japanese-Americans

My years in Berkeley. When I thought I had become a Republican (I was wrong).

Lol a friend of mine who sends her kid to some exclusionary East Bay private school was telling me about the African American History Month "curriculum" at the school.

I said, dude, just take her down to Unglamorous Storefront Church on Adeline Street for a month and save yourself the five-digit kindergarten tuition. She'll learn a hell of a lot more for a lot less.

374 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:37:10pm

One of his "criminal charges" against Muslims and European leaders:

- The Jihad against Israel - Israel has for the last decades systematically been demonised and labelled as the aggressor. Ignoring the ongoing Jihad against Israeli Jews and non-Israeli Jews the last centuries. F example 80 000 Jews was deported from Egypt after WW2 etc. Several hundred Jews are murdered annually in the Middle East by Jihadists (no coverage). No coverage of Islamic Jihads and other Jihadi organisations military tactics; f example the launching of missiles from Christian villages in Lebanon and the use of Christians as human shields.
375 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:37:15pm

Lawyer up, Fjordy. You're gonna need it.

376 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:38:30pm

re: #367 albusteve

have to rely on sociology and black studies stuff in the public domain...as for me my interest came about from my excessive urge to know and understand the Delta blues...then one thing leads to another...we need to promote curiosity in this country...the more you learn, the more you understand

Ideally, yeah. Then you get derps like Brevik.

377 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:38:49pm

re: #356 ausador

Or, they don't want to spend the money to fix "minor" problems and know that there are people like you who want things to work as they are supposed to and will do a "midnight repair" at your own cost just to avoid the hassle and headache of getting them to do it. Now, who is having a derp moment?

378 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:38:54pm

re: #374 Sergey Romanov

One of his "criminal charges" against Muslims and European leaders:

Interesting. He accuses Egypt (correctly) of expelling their Jews, then describes his own plan to force European Muslims to convert.

379 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:39:02pm

re: #375 Killgore Trout

Lawyer up, Fjordy. You're gonna need it.

I hope so...I have not followed but when his name popped up yesterday my gut told me to haul his ass in and turn the screws....sometimes guts are smarter than brains

380 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:39:20pm

re: #370 thedopefishlives

Every geek needs a computer naming scheme. My current one is Tolkien; my router is Middle-Earth, and my computers are all appropriately named. The lord of the manor is Aragorn, my wife's laptop is Arwen, etc.

I use the names of pets, both past and present.

My servers are alfie and lulu, for instance. (The names of my cats.) My laptop is max. (my late ferret)

I've noticed this too. Every geek I know has some kind of pattern they adhere to.

381 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:40:21pm
The NS are generally pro Muslim and anti Jewish. They should know that we will defend our right wing Jewish and other non-Muslim minority groups, who have fought by our side with our lives as they will do the same for us. It is still too early to tell how the situation will develop. A relationship is always reciprocal so we, the pro-multiethnicity and pro-Israel/Jewish factions, do in fact expect future support from all non-Muslim right wing minority groups and indirect support from the Israeli right wing. We will rely on their support in order to be able to dominate the European right wing for the future - because if we fail, they will lose their only interest groups and allies.
382 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:41:30pm
Random violence against Muslims is considered counter-productive and will only create more sympathy for Islam at best. Random racist violence against people of colour (non-Muslims) is even worse. Not only does it undermine everything the movement stands for, it labels you as racist and a violent bigot. Be especially aware of people of the peaceful faiths - Jews, Buddhists, Hindus etc as they are considered allies against the Global Islamic Ummah.
383 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:42:32pm

re: #378 SanFranciscoZionist

Interesting. He accuses Egypt (correctly) of expelling their Jews, then describes his own plan to force European Muslims to convert.

I have no desire or patience for understanding crackpots like him....milk him for intel, then off him

384 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:42:36pm

Robert Spencer fails in spectacular fashion....

Norway's Aftenposten is blaming me, Bat Ye'or and Fjordman for Breivik's mass murders -- as if killing a lot of children aids the defense against the global jihad and Islamic supremacism, or has anything remotely to do with anything we have ever advocated.

For that matter, no one has explained or can explain how this guy's supposed anti-jihad views have anything to do with his murdering children.

Scenario #1:

1. Islamic preachers and texts preach violence and hate.
2. Islamic jihadists kill people.
3. Media and Islamic spokesmen say that only Islamophobes think #1 is even happening, or if it is, that it has anything to do with #2.

Scenario #2:

1. Freedom fighters preach free speech, freedom of conscience and equality of rights for all people, against Sharia and Islamic supremacism that denies those rights, advocating only legal means of protest and dissent.
2. Some nutcase who allegedly expressed allegiance with the freedom fighters kills people, none of whom are preaching Sharia or Islamic supremacism.
3. Media assumes that #1 caused #2 and blames freedom fighters.


Heh. This is exactly what terrorists think they are doing. Fighting for freedom in extreme circumstances.

385 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:42:48pm

re: #380 Fozzie Bear

I use the names of pets, both past and present.

My servers are alfie and lulu, for instance. (The names of my cats.) My laptop is max. (my late ferret)

I've noticed this too. Every geek I know has some kind of pattern they adhere to.

My brother was using Meg (Megabyte) Gig (Gigabyte) and Terra (take a wild guess)

386 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:43:00pm
The great Satan, his cult and the Jews

Whenever someone asks if I am a national socialist I am deeply offended. If there is one historical figure and past Germanic leader I hate it is Adolf Hitler. If I could travel in a time-machine to Berlin in 1933, I would be the first person to go – with the purpose of killing him. Why? No person has ever committed a more horrible crime against his tribe than Hitler. Because of him, the Germanic tribes are dying and MAY be completely wiped out unless we manage to win within 20-70 years. Thanks to his insane campaign and the subsequent genocide of the 6 million Jews, multiculturalism, the anti-European hate ideology was created. Multiculturalism would have never been implemented in Europe if it hadn’t been for NSDAPs reckless and unforgivable actions

387 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:44:28pm

re: #386 Sergey Romanov

Multiculturalism, the anti-European hate ideology? Hold the phone, my bullshit detector just exploded.

388 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:44:40pm

Hi, everyone.

I'd just like to go on the record as saying that I don't think ABB is done.

He was clearly a methodical planner, and my gut instinct tells me that staying alive and being arrested instead of killing himself or committing "suicide by cop" was part of his plan. He has more up his sleeve, mark my words.

389 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:45:44pm

Jackpot!

Were the majority of the German and European Jews disloyal? Yes, at least the so called liberal Jews, similar to the liberal Jews today that opposes nationalism/Zionism and supports multiculturalism. Jews that support multiculturalism today are as much of a threat to Israel and Zionism (Israeli nationalism) as they are to us. So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists. Conservative Jews were loyal to Europe and should have been rewarded. Instead, he just targeted them all… So, are the current Jews in Europe and US disloyal? The multiculturalist (nation-wrecking) Jews ARE while the conservative Jews ARE NOT. Aprox. 75% of European/US Jews support multiculturalism while aprox. 50% of Israeli Jews does the same. This shows very clearly that we must embrace the remaining loyal Jews as brothers rather than repeating the mistake of the NSDAP. Whenever I discuss the Middle East issue with a national socialist he presents the anti-Israeli and pro-Palestine argument. He always seem unaware of the fact that his propaganda is hurting Israeli nationalists (who want to deport the Muslims from Israel) and that he is in fact helping the Israeli cultural Marxists/multiculturalists with his argumentation. In all five discussions they have moderated or fully changed their views after the discussion as they realize what they have done. But I was unable to discuss this issue further after I was banned and kicked out by Stormfront and another national socialist forum.

In any case; educate yourself and learn the difference. Today’s conservatives and want-to-be Nazis are ignorant when they obsess so much over the Jews. There is no Jewish problem in Western Europe (with the exception of the UK and France) as we only have 1 million in Western Europe, whereas 800 000 out of these 1 million live in France and the UK. The US on the other hand, with more than 6 million Jews (600% more than Europe) actually has a considerable Jewish problem. But please learn the difference between a nation-wrecking multiculturalist Jew and a conservative Jew. Don’t make the same mistake that NSDAP did. Never target a Jew because he is a Jew, but rather because he is a category A or B traitor. And don’t forget that the bulk of the category A and B traitors are Christian Europeans. 90% of the category A and B traitors in my own country, Norway, are Nordic, Christian category A and B traitors.

390 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:45:46pm

Pam Geller is projecting so much she should be a IMAX theater.

391 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:46:38pm

Let's see:

The Ainu

American Indians

Basques

Jews

Aborigines

Old Believers in Russia (I saw some today, here in Oregon.)

The Religious wars of Europe (Hugenots, Catholics-then Protestants-then Catholics--and always splinter groups, etc. etc.)

And I'll bet I'm missing a bunch who didn't leave a written record.

392 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:46:42pm

re: #388 CuriousLurker

Hi, everyone.

I'd just like to go on the record as saying that I don't think ABB is done.

He was clearly a methodical planner, and my gut instinct tells me that staying alive and being arrested instead of killing himself or committing "suicide by cop" was part of his plan. He has more up his sleeve, mark my words.

In his book he has a lot about the trials of the "Knights" who will be caught. Haven't read that yet, but that's probably his plan.

393 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:46:48pm

re: #388 CuriousLurker

Hi, everyone.

I'd just like to go on the record as saying that I don't think ABB is done.

He was clearly a methodical planner, and my gut instinct tells me that staying alive and being arrested instead of killing himself or committing "suicide by cop" was part of his plan. He has more up his sleeve, mark my words.

He wants to be alive to see the first Norwegian Nationalist High School named for him.

394 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:47:49pm

re: #388 CuriousLurker

Hi, everyone.

I'd just like to go on the record as saying that I don't think ABB is done.

He was clearly a methodical planner, and my gut instinct tells me that staying alive and being arrested instead of killing himself or committing "suicide by cop" was part of his plan. He has more up his sleeve, mark my words.

Like what? A phase 2 by an accomplice or a planted device on a timer or something? Jesus, I hope not.

395 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:47:51pm

re: #384 Killgore Trout

Spencer is the new breed neointellectual that uses words to promote himself and belittle others across the net....bigotry pays...I'd like to meet him sometime in an out of the way Texas roadhouse, show him how old timers like me stress the point

396 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:48:19pm

Try to find his posts at Stormfront (above he says he posted there).

397 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:48:43pm

re: #357 SanFranciscoZionist

Evidence of that? (Entirely possible, bleah.)

Also, that has nothing to do with his feelings about Jews in "Christian" countries.

He seems to me to be "pro-Israel" like a lot of antisemites are "pro-Islam". Not supporters but people who see either Israel or Islam at the forefront of fighting the people they really hate the most.

Reminds me of some of those Hindutva dudes who only like Israel and the US because they see us as smacking down the Muslims for them.

Cowards.

398 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:48:45pm

re: #392 Sergey Romanov

In his book he has a lot about the trials of the "Knights" who will be caught. Haven't read that yet, but that's probably his plan.

I just downloaded it the book and I see you're posting the interesting bits. That's great. Ah, trials, yes, that's probably it, or at least part of it.

399 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:49:19pm

re: #393 Decatur Deb

He wants to be alive to see the first Norwegian Nationalist High School named for him.

*groan*

400 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:49:43pm

re: #386 Sergey Romanov

///If Hitler hadn't been so blatant about it racism never would have gone out of style!

401 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:49:50pm

re: #380 Fozzie Bear

I use the names of pets, both past and present.

My servers are alfie and lulu, for instance. (The names of my cats.) My laptop is max. (my late ferret)

I've noticed this too. Every geek I know has some kind of pattern they adhere to.

Mine is usually classic movie references.

402 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:49:57pm

re: #385 jamesfirecat

My brother was using Meg (Megabyte) Gig (Gigabyte) and Terra (take a wild guess)

I name my servers after Stooges.

403 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:50:46pm

re: #388 CuriousLurker

Hi, everyone.

I'd just like to go on the record as saying that I don't think ABB is done.

He was clearly a methodical planner, and my gut instinct tells me that staying alive and being arrested instead of killing himself or committing "suicide by cop" was part of his plan. He has more up his sleeve, mark my words.

He wants to use his trial to drum up anti-Islam sentiment, would be my guess. I say its unfortunate that Norway does not have capital punishment, because I'd like to give him his "martyrdom" at the end of a rope.

BTW: That should not be read as a call for a lynching or any unlawful. I am saying that murders such as ABB's are best punished by execution following a fair trial.

404 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:50:56pm

re: #394 Fozzie Bear

Like what? A phase 2 by an accomplice or a planted device on a timer or something? Jesus, I hope not.

No, I don't mean like an attack, I mean like some kind of ideological inspiration for other right-wing radicals.

405 Summer Seale  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:51:48pm

The hate groups are doing what they do best when one of their own blows a gasket and commits an atrocity: Deny, deny, deny!

My guess is right now that Geller and the rest are terrified of his court testimony because it will most likely come out about his ideology and what he supports, and their names may very well be dropped and investigated in a public trial. They've never had it this public and obvious before, and they have absolutely no fucking clue what to do. So now they're going to have to do the "extreme spin control", all while their Godfather figure is being investigated himself for his role in the hacking scandal, and their blessed Fox News parent company is slowly being turned inside out in a very public way.

I think the shit is hitting the fan all at once and they're just having probably the worst couple of weeks they've ever imagined.

Then again, that's karma for you, Pammy. If you hadn't gone off and catered to people who would literally exterminate entire groups of people - many of which would gladly toss you in the pot at the end as well - then you wouldn't have this coming back to bite you in the ass and savage your ankles while you're trying to make a getaway.

Except, this time, with a public trial and all, I just don't think she can get away. And I'm glad. I really wish nothing more than to see her fall down into the abyss with this asshole and along with Robert "I'm just supporting ethnic cleansing causes innocently" Spencer, and Fjordman, and Gates of Vienna, and all the rest of the loudmouthed lying asshole jerks who have for years been successfully trying to repackage visceral ethnic hatred as part of the fight against totalitarianism by espousing Nazi and totalitarian ideals themselves.

Little shrieking Pammy, if you ever read this: You deserve what's coming - all the public humiliation and embarrassment, the name coming out in court, the investigation into your writings, the whole fucking nine yards. I want it to really hurt, Pammy. I want it to hurt until you realize the error of your ways and what you've been involved with, because your'e such a fucking bag of piss and hatred that you couldn't even see past your own little nose while you were sticking your tongue up the ass of every single Euro and American hate group there was, just because they were with you on hating anything brown and different.

I really, really, fucking hope it hurts, Pammy. The blood of a lot of people are on your hands now, and you're no better than any Sheikh who was preaching hatred in any mosque and encouraged other assholes to go and kill innocent people, and then claimed that he had nothing to do with it. Yeah, that's you, Pammy: a sheikh of hatred. And all I can do now is hope that it's coming back to take you down.

You make me sick, Pamela Geller, and you're a traitor to your own people for supporting assholes like this. That never was the way to support Israel. You're no better than Kahane was, and you're no better than any other terror supporting Mullah. You're guilty of encouraging people to commit mass murder, and I think that the truth is going to come out really soon about that in the general public.

So freak out while you can, Pammy, but it won't do you any good. Everyone is gonna know he was a fucking fan and supporter, and why. And they're gonna go back and read all that crap you've been writing for years, and they're going to treat you like O.J. in society for the rest of your life.

Bitch.

406 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:52:05pm

I haven't been following the rise of the EDL, and all the nuttiness that surrounds it. In the past, I have generally skipped over posts on this topic here on LGF, focusing instead on the American political scene.

I find myself a bit lost now trying to follow this. There are a lot of players in the far-right in Europe, with varying motivations, tactics, and allegiances. Is there a good concise guide somewhere that would get me up to speed without confusing the shit out of me?

I think I have ignored this stuff as "somebody else's problem" long enough.

407 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:52:37pm

re: #402 goddamnedfrank

I name my servers after Stooges.

Server #3: I'm trying to compile and nothin' happens.

Server #2: Why don't you get a processor with some brains in it?

:D

408 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:53:47pm

re: #405 Summer

That's as hostile as it gets without being hateful. Good hammering while staying decent, Summer.

409 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:54:05pm

re: #405 Summer

Bravo. *standing ovation*

410 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:54:09pm
Q: Are you a holocaust denier?

A: Assuming of course that you are referring to the Jewish holocaust under Nazi Germany; no, I have reviewed the evidence, both the evidence presented by the Allied powers and the anti-holocaust evidence presented by the Axis Powers and neo-Nazi movements. I don’t find the anti-holocaust evidence credible so I don’t see a reason why anyone should deny the Jewish holocaust. As far as I have understood; Nazi Germany didn’t originally want to annihilate the Jews. They were considering deportation but they didn’t really have any location to deport them to, and they weren’t offered any location by the allied forces. They didn’t start massacring the Jews until after they realised that they were losing the war and the window of opportunity was closing fast (after the failed Russian invasion in1941). I guess, they used the following logic; they felt they had to cut out what they viewed as a cancer before they lost the war somewhat like many Serbs did during the Balkan war. They wanted to deport but as their adversaries made that impossible they chose the only solution (according to their logic). No one should try to justify genocide, it is a bad thing that cannot or should not be excused. There are always other options.

My problem with holocaust denial however is the European cultural Marxist/multiculturalist elite’s refusal to acknowledge the Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian genocides by the hand of the Islamic Ummah. Islam has systematically slaughtered more than 300 million people since its creation and this trend is continuing every year (see the continuation of the Assyrian, Coptic, Maronite, Hindu genocides in the Middle East). The politically correct elites of the EUSSR/USASSR are the true holocaust deniers as they refuse to acknowledge current and historical Islamic atrocities.

Furthermore, while I oppose deniers of the Jewish holocaust I realise that the “holocaust religion” is an extremely destructive force in Europe. Today, European youths are systematically brainwashed and made into pacifist eunuchs (school classes being bussed to former concentration camps and taught to reject their culture, pride etc.). Our elites, backed by the EUSSR/USASSR cultural hegemony, are stripping away any sense of pride and honor from European youths in a deliberate scheme to feminise/pacify them in order to prevent future Nazi movements from emerging. The problem here is that we are left with little to none cultural defenses against any force which would want to conquer us. This is why the Islamic Ummah have been taken advantage of our lack of cultural defenses and are currently colonising us, facilitated by our traitorous cultural Marxist/multiculturalist elites.

The “holocaust religion” has grown into a destructive anti-European monster, which prevents nationalistic doctrines from emerging. And without nationalistic doctrines, Europe will wither and die, which we are seeing today. It’s quite ironic that Even Israel would appear to have become a victim of it. Needless to say, while I am a strong supporter of Israel and of all patriotic Jews I acknowledge that the anti-European holocaust religion must be deconstructed, and instead replaced with an anti-Islamic version. After all we are talking about a disproportion of 6 million killed Jews vs. 300 million massacred Jews/Christians/Hindus/Buddhists/Zoroastrians/Animists.

As of now, the “holocaust religion” is one of the major factors that are making Europe vulnerable and susceptible for Islamic conquest through demographical warfare.

411 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:54:57pm

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

He wants to use his trial to drum up anti-Islam sentiment, would be my guess. I say its unfortunate that Norway does not have capital punishment, because I'd like to give him his "martyrdom" at the end of a rope.

BTW: That should not be read as a call for a lynching or any unlawful. I am saying that murders such as ABB's are best punished by execution following a fair trial.

Norway doesn't have the death penalty, so he'll probably get the displeasure of sitting and stewing in his own juices. Fine by me...

412 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:55:00pm

re: #389 Sergey Romanov

In any case; educate yourself and learn the difference. Today’s conservatives and want-to-be Nazis are ignorant when they obsess so much over the Jews. There is no Jewish problem in Western Europe (with the exception of the UK and France) as we only have 1 million in Western Europe, whereas 800 000 out of these 1 million live in France and the UK. The US on the other hand, with more than 6 million Jews (600% more than Europe) actually has a considerable Jewish problem.


Yup, there's the anti-Jihad "support for Israel" that we've come to know and love.

413 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:55:22pm

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

He wants to use his trial to drum up anti-Islam sentiment, would be my guess. I say its unfortunate that Norway does not have capital punishment, because I'd like to give him his "martyrdom" at the end of a rope.

BTW: That should not be read as a call for a lynching or any unlawful. I am saying that murders such as ABB's are best punished by execution following a fair trial.

And what if the authorities somehow deprive him of a platform during the trial? He hates them, so I'm sure he's considered that possibility as he's clearly intelligent (if evil). I can't really articulate anything because I just have a very uneasy feeling, nothing concrete or specific.

414 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:55:48pm
The shooter once posted ONE link to Atlas. ONE link. And the little green shrew posts that he was my fan and made that the center of the story -- not what the rest of the world did, mourning dead children.

I guess she sobered up and corrected it.

415 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:56:15pm

re: #412 Killgore Trout

Yeah, kill or deport 50-75% of the Jews (but you know, only those liberal, leftist "nation-wrecking Jews") seems to be the plan.

416 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:56:18pm

re: #410 Sergey Romanov

WTF?

417 God of Binders with Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:58:45pm

Atlas Juggs??!! LOL!
Your text to link...

418 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:58:51pm

I just opened my mail. Some idiot sent a completely blank signed check to someone who doesn't live here. I guess he got the address wrong. I'm very poor (especially this month). He's very luck I'm honest.

419 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:59:28pm

re: #411 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Norway doesn't have the death penalty, so he'll probably get the displeasure of sitting and stewing in his own juices. Fine by me...

I oppose the death penalty, but Norway also lacks life without parole and I can't imagine ever letting this guy out. Their criminal justice system just isn't equipped to confront evil on this scale. Hopefully they'll find a mental health or public safety basis upon which to keep him imprisoned forever.

420 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 4:59:32pm

re: #405 Summer

I was wondering earlier today how this will affect our politics in the U.S. Will the creeping sharia scare mongering by politicians stop now that it might be associated with theses groups/people? We'll see.

421 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:00:49pm

re: #420 CuriousLurker

I was wondering earlier today how this will affect our politics in the U.S. Will the creeping sharia scare mongering by politicians stop now that it might be associated with theses groups/people? We'll see.

doubt it...I'd bet less that 5% are following this story past the sensational headlines

422 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:00:51pm

re: #416 Gus 802

WTF?

Yup! Quite the little Sociopath, isn't it?

423 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:01:25pm
So basically, the NS ideology suggests that 950 Jews are controlling the Norwegian government, a government which is known to be the most anti-Zionist of all European countries...!? Let’s not forget, 1 000 Jews are controlling Ireland etc. These NS claims are absolutely ridiculous and counter-productive. Being a Norwegian myself, I know that these claims are completely false. They have no credibility whatsoever. The reason why multiculturalism was embraced in Norway and a majority of Western European countries was because of the cultural Marxist/multiculturalist alliance, an alliance dominated by indigenous atheist nationals and not Jews. Same can be said regarding claims against the Freemasons. According to the NS movement the Freemasons are a Zionist organisation. Being a Free Mason myself I know that this is not only a false claim but actually quite ridiculous. The Freemasons is not in any way political (I wish the organisation was, believe me) and it is true that they have a positive view on Jews. However, this is from a Christian religious context, where solidarity to Jews and Israel is important. The Freemasons is a Christian only organisation and no Muslim or Jew could become a member even if they wanted to. There are no political bodies within the organisation nationally or internationally.
424 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:01:50pm

re: #419 goddamnedfrank

Oslogin (I think that's his login name) said that the government can keep him indefinitely detained/jailed even after his sentence is up if they feel that he's a danger to the public (and after methodically killing 80+ people on an island with his guns, that shouldn't be too big a of hurdle for the government to overcome).

(Paraphrased)

425 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:02:10pm

re: #420 CuriousLurker

I was wondering earlier today how this will affect our politics in the U.S. Will the creeping sharia scare mongering by politicians stop now that it might be associated with theses groups/people? We'll see.

I think this will probably take the last bit of wind out of their sails. The Tea Party has fizzled, the Ground Zero Mosque outrage has passed. Spencer and Geller have already been associated with the terrorist. I don't think even Fox News wants to be associated with them at this point. They might linger on the web for a while longer but their game is over.

426 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:02:48pm

re: #419 goddamnedfrank

I oppose the death penalty, but Norway also lacks life without parole and I can't imagine ever letting this guy out. Their criminal justice system just isn't equipped to confront evil on this scale. Hopefully they'll find a mental health or public safety basis upon which to keep him imprisoned forever.

Yeah, they need 5150 on a grand scale.

Pump him full of Haldol and never let him expire.

427 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:03:16pm

re: #421 albusteve

doubt it...I'd bet less that 5% are following this story past the sensational headlines

Could be. Like I said, we'll see.

428 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:03:46pm

re: #419 goddamnedfrank

I oppose the death penalty, but Norway also lacks life without parole and I can't imagine ever letting this guy out. Their criminal justice system just isn't equipped to confront evil on this scale. Hopefully they'll find a mental health or public safety basis upon which to keep him imprisoned forever.

They have mechanisms capable of effecting a life imprisonment, but they don't do it all in one sentence. I believe the maximum sentence at trial is 21 years, but it can be reviewed upon completion of the 21 years, and at that point the gov't can opt to tack on an extra 5 years. Every subsequent 5 years gets another review, and each time they can opt to detain the prisoner another 5 years.

So, they don't have life sentences, but they can keep prisoners in prison for life. (I may be mistaken about this, but this is my understanding)

429 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:03:53pm

re: #412 Killgore Trout

Yup, there's the anti-Jihad "support for Israel" that we've come to know and love.

"Jewish Problem", is it? So when he speaks about the Holocaust he speaks in measured tones, but when he shifts he speaks of a "Jewish Problem". The guy's an anti-Semite trying (and failing) to be coy.

430 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:03:56pm
So I would rather say, let’s adapt instead of criticise. Obviously, camaraderie is bad and must be eliminated (Jewish Oligarchs in Russia is a very nasty example of this). But I agree with most of these principles/ethics and I fully support this mentality (Save/invest instead of spend+ focus on long term goals). Does that make me a Jew?
431 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:04:09pm

re: #419 goddamnedfrank

I oppose the death penalty, but Norway also lacks life without parole and I can't imagine ever letting this guy out. Their criminal justice system just isn't equipped to confront evil on this scale. Hopefully they'll find a mental health or public safety basis upon which to keep him imprisoned forever.

not me...I have zero qualms about executing this guy

432 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:04:28pm

Good grief, I have have a lot of reading to catch up on here. Gonna go do that now. BBL

433 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:04:31pm

re: #424 commadore183

Here's Oslogin's comment

434 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:04:44pm

re: #425 Killgore Trout

I think this will probably take the last bit of wind out of their sails. The Tea Party has fizzled, the Ground Zero Mosque outrage has passed. Spencer and Geller have already been associated with the terrorist. I don't think even Fox News wants to be associated with them at this point. They might linger on the web for a while longer but their game is over.

Question is, what comes after them.

435 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:05:34pm

re: #388 CuriousLurker

Hi, everyone.

I'd just like to go on the record as saying that I don't think ABB is done.

He was clearly a methodical planner, and my gut instinct tells me that staying alive and being arrested instead of killing himself or committing "suicide by cop" was part of his plan. He has more up his sleeve, mark my words.

I'm not convinced he was working completely alone.

436 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:06:25pm

re: #425 Killgore Trout

I think this will probably take the last bit of wind out of their sails. The Tea Party has fizzled, the Ground Zero Mosque outrage has passed. Spencer and Geller have already been associated with the terrorist. I don't think even Fox News wants to be associated with them at this point. They might linger on the web for a while longer but their game is over.

That's exactly what I was thinking. We're still in the early stages of the fallout form this. It could become a real political liability to be associated with the likes of Geller & Spencer et al.

437 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:06:58pm

He has a long section on "Jews and multiculturalism", but I think I've quoted enough.

438 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:07:24pm

re: #435 reine.de.tout

I'm not convinced he was working completely alone.

Me neither.

439 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:07:34pm

re: #425 Killgore Trout

I think this will probably take the last bit of wind out of their sails. The Tea Party has fizzled, the Ground Zero Mosque outrage has passed. Spencer and Geller have already been associated with the terrorist. I don't think even Fox News wants to be associated with them at this point. They might linger on the web for a while longer but their game is over.

Maybe so, but really, in the years ahead, does a demagogue really need the MSM to continue to have widespread influence? Media is changing.

The right wing is just getting warmed up. I don't see this kind of stuff doing anything but gaining influence.

I hope i'm wrong.

440 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:07:53pm

re: #436 CuriousLurker

That's exactly what I was thinking. We're still in the early stages of the fallout form this. It could become a real political liability to be associated with the likes of Geller & Spencer et al.

I dunno. On the other hand, if I were Geller, Spencer, et al, I'd not plan on visiting Europe for a while; at least till the material witness issues are resolved.

441 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:08:15pm

re: #362 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Why, he might even hire Aunt Milty for a cabinet position..and without a loyalty oath, even. ///

oh man, that guy

443 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:08:22pm

re: #405 Summer

Bitch.

That was righteous. The whole thing, I mean.

444 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:09:09pm

re: #439 Fozzie Bear

Maybe so, but really, in the years ahead, does a demagogue really need the MSM to continue to have widespread influence? Media is changing.

The right wing is just getting warmed up. I don't see this kind of stuff doing anything but gaining influence.

I hope i'm wrong.

I think you are exactly right.

445 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:09:13pm

re: #423 Sergey Romanov

To be mildly hyperbolic, we are basically dealing with NAZIs.

Or, for the HP in inclined among us, Death Eaters.

Us and Western Europe could now be on the hunt for 25-80 terrorists.

I would put all of us on High Alert. At least.

446 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:09:23pm

re: #435 reine.de.tout

I'm not convinced he was working completely alone.

highly unlikely

447 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:09:28pm

OK, one more:

Nevertheless, time is off the essence and it is imperative that the European Jewish community without delay take a stance on the ongoing Islamisation. Neutrality on this issue is not an option. The only way of doing this is to back the new right wing (anti-multiculturalism, pro-Israel) groups and political parties (also manifested through views such as by moderate Jewish writers such as Daniel Pipes and Bat Ye’or).
448 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:09:41pm

re: #419 goddamnedfrank

I oppose the death penalty, but Norway also lacks life without parole and I can't imagine ever letting this guy out. Their criminal justice system just isn't equipped to confront evil on this scale. Hopefully they'll find a mental health or public safety basis upon which to keep him imprisoned forever.

speaking of which, the Count has been out of jail a while

449 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:10:03pm

re: #439 Fozzie Bear

Maybe so, but really, in the years ahead, does a demagogue really need the MSM to continue to have widespread influence? Media is changing.

The right wing is just getting warmed up. I don't see this kind of stuff doing anything but gaining influence.

I hope i'm wrong.

Fox was never MSM, but but it is still a large media outlet and losing access to it will hurt. I think Fox might let Geller on, but if she went on Hannity he'd hammer at her (he really has to, since Fox cannot afford to be seen as excusing this in any way). So for all intents and purposes, she's lost her biggest megaphone.

450 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:10:17pm

re: #420 CuriousLurker

Doubt it. I actually believe (Diety of your choice, prove me wrong) that he will inspire others to act. The Harpy and Gnome will will give a basic condomation of this atrocity while at the same time giving their aproval using the standard wink, wink, nod, nod approach.

451 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:11:02pm

re: #440 kirkspencer

I don't know, I could see the US extraditing them to Norway.

452 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:11:22pm

re: #410 Sergey Romanov

Bleh to the bleh.

453 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:11:54pm
THE suspect in twin attacks in and near Oslo that killed at least 92 people, Anders Behring Breivik, has admitted responsibility, his lawyer said.

Behring Breivik, 32, was detained for allegedly shooting at least 85 people dead at a youth Labour Party meeting on an island and killing seven more in a car bomb explosion which ripped through government buildings in Oslo.

``He admitted responsibility,'' lawyer Geir Lippestad told the television station.

``He explained that it was cruel but that he had to go through with these acts,'' Lippestad said, adding that the attacks were ``apparently planned over a long period of time''.

Predicted above, by someone.

454 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:12:00pm

BBL

455 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:12:42pm
There are Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, agnostic, atheist and Jewish category A and B traitors in Western Europe and they will all be targeted. And yes, many of Hollywood’s movie/entertainment producers and capital market investors are considered category A and B traitors (both Christian and Jewish). So let there be no doubt whatsoever; I would be the first person to pull the trigger, given the opportunity, if I ever saw a Jewish category A or B traitor. But I will not kill him because he is a Jew, but rather because he is guilty of indirect/direct atrocities against Europeans just like every other cultural Marxist/multiculturalist category A and B traitor. It’s essential to judge each person individually in this regard and not according to their DNA structure.
456 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:12:52pm

re: #449 Dark_Falcon

Fox was never MSM, but but it is still a large media outlet and losing access to it will hurt. I think Fox might let Geller on, but if she went on Hannity he'd hammer at her (he really has to, since Fox cannot afford to be seen as excusing this in any way). So for all intents and purposes, she's lost her biggest megaphone.

Fox not MSM?...that's news to me, on fact they epitomize the MSM

457 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:13:09pm

re: #439 Fozzie Bear

Maybe so, but really, in the years ahead, does a demagogue really need the MSM to continue to have widespread influence? Media is changing.

The right wing is just getting warmed up. I don't see this kind of stuff doing anything but gaining influence.

I hope i'm wrong.

the extremist right wing in america isn't going away, the next big terrorist threats in America won't come from muslims, or arabs (Sorry, Dark Falcon, I know how much you love your keep-em-out-of-Amurica rhetoric) it'll come from extreme right wingers in America, organizing as cells, a hundred wanna be Tim McVeighs, fueled up by Fox News, Beck, Limbaugh, vulnerable and angry and desperate minds shaped by what the Republican party has become

2012! What fun it will be

458 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:13:46pm

re: #447 Sergey Romanov

OK, one more:

Nevertheless, time is off the essence and it is imperative that the European Jewish community without delay take a stance on the ongoing Islamisation. Neutrality on this issue is not an option. The only way of doing this is to back the new right wing (anti-multiculturalism, pro-Israel) groups and political parties (also manifested through views such as by moderate Jewish writers such as Daniel Pipes and Bat Ye’or).

Yeah, "Come closer," said the wolf dressed as granny to Little Red Riding Hood.

459 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:14:03pm

re: #449 Dark_Falcon

Fox was never MSM

Wow, this is just unbelievably ridiculous and wrong

460 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:14:29pm

re: #447 Sergey Romanov

OK, one more:

OK, one more:

Nevertheless, time is off the essence and it is imperative that the European Jewish community without delay take a stance on the ongoing Islamisation. Neutrality on this issue is not an option. The only way of doing this is to back the new right wing (anti-multiculturalism, pro-Israel) groups and political parties (also manifested through views such as by moderate Jewish writers such as Daniel Pipes and Bat Ye’or)

Interesting thing about Bat Ye'or is, her "dhimmitude" theories describe the tea party, Anders, and other Third Position social/cultural conservatives perfectly.

It's utterly inconceivable to them that they aren't RULING, with 100% control of everyone around them.

So they flip out, and become murderous, feeling perfectly justified. Not a lot of difference between dhimmitude, Lebensraum, and Manifest Destiny, if you ask me.

461 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:15:25pm

re: #449 Dark_Falcon

Fox was never MSM, but but it is still a large media outlet and losing access to it will hurt. I think Fox might let Geller on, but if she went on Hannity he'd hammer at her (he really has to, since Fox cannot afford to be seen as excusing this in any way). So for all intents and purposes, she's lost her biggest megaphone.

14:45 and counting...

462 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:15:31pm

I now fully understand why he targeted not the Muslims but leftists.

1. He considers his left-wing victims to be traitors, deserving of death.

2. He considers random violence against Muslims counterproductive, as it will only cause sympathy to them.

No enigma there.

463 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:16:25pm

re: #429 Dark_Falcon

"Jewish Problem", is it? So when he speaks about the Holocaust he speaks in measured tones, but when he shifts he speaks of a "Jewish Problem". The guy's an anti-Semite trying (and failing) to be coy.

Translation: I don't see Jews as a threat, and they might be allies against the Muslims, so they're cool, unless they don't do what I tell them to.

464 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:16:37pm

re: #450 Bubblehead II

Doubt it. I actually believe (Diety of your choice, prove me wrong) that he will inspire others to act. The Harpy and Gnome will will give a basic condomation of this atrocity while at the same time giving their aproval using the standard wink, wink, nod, nod approach.

Yeah, but I wasn't talking about the haters themselves—they're gonna hate regardless. I was talking about the politicians who (presumably) also need to appeal to normal, rational voters moving away from the haters.

465 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:16:54pm

re: #449 Dark_Falcon

Fox was never MSM, but but it is still a large media outlet and losing access to it will hurt. I think Fox might let Geller on, but if she went on Hannity he'd hammer at her (he really has to, since Fox cannot afford to be seen as excusing this in any way). So for all intents and purposes, she's lost her biggest megaphone.

Fox is the most-watched news outlet in the US. It doesn't matter if you consider them politically mainstream or not, they are part of the MSM. This meme that Fox is somehow not part of the MSM is absurd on its face.

Regardless, does it really matter if Fox carries Geller's words on the air, if ideas consistent with Geller's views are aired? They can toss individual speakers overboard as they become tainted, but that doesn't change the message.

466 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:16:54pm

re: #462 Sergey Romanov

I now fully understand why he targeted not the Muslims but leftists.

1. He considers his left-wing victims to be traitors, deserving of death.

2. He considers random violence against Muslims counterproductive, as it will only cause sympathy to them.

No enigma there.

It's anti- n-lover mentality. Old as dirt, used to keep other whites in line.

467 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:17:24pm

re: #435 reine.de.tout

I'm not convinced he was working completely alone.

Question is if there are other "Templar Knight Justiciars" or whatever out there, and are they also willing to carry out operations like this?

468 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:17:28pm
We still have a lot of work to do. We must continue to pressure the old generation “NS” movements and invite them to join our ranks. Through adaptation and change they will contribute to create and further develop an “un-tainted” anti-Islamic/anti-multiculturalistic stance – the “new strong European right”. This will be a challenge for sure, especially in certain Eastern European countries. We expect the support of all cultural conservative Jews in our future consolidation efforts.
469 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:17:52pm

re: #445 ProLifeLiberal

To be mildly hyperbolic, we are basically dealing with NAZIs.

Or, for the HP in inclined among us, Death Eaters.

Us and Western Europe could now be on the hunt for 25-80 terrorists.

I would put all of us on High Alert. At least.

Death Eaters. Precisely what they are.

470 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:18:29pm

re: #467 SanFranciscoZionist

Question is if there are other "Templar Knight Justiciars" or whatever out there, and are they also willing to carry out operations like this?

of course

471 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:19:19pm

re: #457 WindUpBird

the extremist right wing in america isn't going away, the next big terrorist threats in America won't come from muslims, or arabs (Sorry, Dark Falcon, I know how much you love your keep-em-out-of-Amurica rhetoric) it'll come from extreme right wingers in America, organizing as cells, a hundred wanna be Tim McVeighs, fueled up by Fox News, Beck, Limbaugh, vulnerable and angry and desperate minds shaped by what the Republican party has become

2012! What fun it will be

That's exactly what I was trying to point out here.

472 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:19:32pm

re: #464 CuriousLurker

Yeah, but I wasn't talking about the haters themselves—they're gonna hate regardless. I was talking about the politicians who (presumably) also need to appeal to normal, rational voters moving away from the haters.

Herman Cain is going to have even more problems than he already does after this, given he's the voice of overt anti-Muslim discrimination in the campaign.

He's promoting a lot of the ideas in the manifesto. People have been laughing him off but now it might not be so funny.

473 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:19:34pm

re: #462 Sergey Romanov

1. He considers his left-wing victims to be traitors, deserving of death.

And there's the crux of it. This kind of thing becomes ever more likely to recur the longer is is acceptable to portray political adversaries as enemies of civilization.

How many times have we heard speakers on Fox refer to liberals as enemies of democracy? How long can we afford to pretend this doesn't lead directly to violence?

474 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:20:34pm

re: #436 CuriousLurker

That's exactly what I was thinking. We're still in the early stages of the fallout form this. It could become a real political liability to be associated with the likes of Geller & Spencer et al.

I suspect the line of speakers for her upcoming ground zero rally will all cancel. Even Breitbart probably won't want to be tied into this.

475 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:21:06pm

re: #472 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Herman Cain is going to have even more problems than he already does after this, given he's the voice of overt anti-Muslim discrimination in the campaign.

He's promoting a lot of the ideas in the manifesto. People have been laughing him off but now it might not be so funny.

You're right. I'd temporarily totally forgotten about him.

476 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:21:20pm

It's an amazing look inside such a person's psyche. All in the open, very Machiavellian.

477 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:22:22pm

re: #476 Sergey Romanov

It's an amazing look inside such a person's psyche. All in the open, very Machiavellian.

Thanks for picking out all the interesting bits.

478 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:22:30pm

re: #476 Sergey Romanov

It's an amazing look inside such a person's psyche. All in the open, very Machiavellian.

getting deep into his psyche is just what he wants...cap him and be done with it

479 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:23:14pm

re: #471 CuriousLurker

The only way this will stop in the US is an OKC analogue. Because only then will be people stop and think.

480 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:23:29pm

re: #478 albusteve

Heh.

481 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:24:13pm

re: #464 CuriousLurker

They will give the standard sound bites about how they deplore what happened. But will they denounce those who insigated it? Some how, I don't think so.

482 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:24:23pm

re: #457 WindUpBird

(Sorry, Dark Falcon, I know how much you love your keep-em-out-of-Amurica rhetoric)

I don't see where that bigoted rhetoric differs from Anders', tbf.

it'll come from extreme right wingers in America, organizing as cells, a hundred wanna be Tim McVeighs, fueled up by Fox News, Beck, Limbaugh, vulnerable and angry and desperate minds shaped by what the Republican party has become

It's that way because their constituents let it be that way. They let it be that way because they either agree with it, or are too cowardly to stop it.

483 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:24:38pm

re: #479 ProLifeLiberal

The only way this will stop in the US is an OKC analogue. Because only then will be people stop and think.

I really, truly hope to God you're wrong.

484 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:25:29pm

re: #478 albusteve

getting deep into his psyche is just what he wants...cap him and be done with it

Ignoring the how and why of it is to invite a repeat of these events. These things don't happen for no reason at all. It isn't "senseless" or "unthinkable", no matter how comforting it may be to think of it in these terms. Somebody did this for a reason, and they thought it out.

Understanding exactly why is important, especially given that this guy isn't a Loughner. He wasn't insane. He had an ideology which compelled him to action. That doesn't make him nuts. Dangerous, yes, but not nuts.

That distinction is crucial.

485 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:25:37pm

re: #478 albusteve

getting deep into his psyche is just what he wants...cap him and be done with it

Ol' Sparky. With no sponge.

//

486 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:25:58pm

That reminds me. Big Kudos to all the lizards over the past few days. Everyone really did a great job researching, translating and discussing the terror attack in Norway. Good work, everyone.

487 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:26:03pm

re: #479 ProLifeLiberal

The only way this will stop in the US is an OKC analogue. Because only then will be people stop and think.

And when they consider it's the EXACT same cultural conservative element, maybe it will click. Honestly, though, I don't hold out a lot of hope for that.

488 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:26:53pm
Category A, B and C traitors’ concentrations


Annual gatherings for journalists

There are annual gatherings for journalists in all Western European countries. These gatherings are considered THE MOST attractive targets for large scale shock attacks due to the amount and quality of category B traitors. To illustrate; in Norway, there is an annual gathering called the SKUP conference (the organization for critical and investigative press) where the most notable journalists/editors from all the nations media/news companies attend (500 delegates - 98% of them are considered “quality category B traitor targets”. The conference lasts for 2 days and is usually organized at a larger hotel/conference center. Security is light or non-existent making the conference a perfect target.

Overview:


• Targets: a concentration of 500 category B traitors
• Primary/initial assualt method: 1-3 source detonation (vehicle based “barrack buster” covered with several layers of projectiles for maximum damage, f example small steel projectiles)
• Goal: collapse of building causing maximum casualties coupled with secondary assault method
• Secondary assault method: flame thrower, assault rifles, grenades, executing the survivors of the initial blast(s).
Literature conferences and festivals

This is where many cultural Marxist/PC authors (the disgusting cultural Marxist and traitorous bourgeois elite – the Marxist-Leninists’ of the 68 generation (or sympathisers of this group) meet and socialise.

Prioritised target groups make out the bulk of the participants who attend certain literature conferences and festivals:


• Writers (90%+ of these individuals support multiculturalism and usually portray their world view through their works)
• Editors and journalists in cultural Marxist/multiculturalist publications
• A majority of individuals related to various “cultural Marxist/politically correct” cultural settings and organisations.

489 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:27:18pm

re: #484 Fozzie Bear

Ignoring the how and why of it is to invite a repeat of these events. These things don't happen for no reason at all. It isn't "senseless" or "unthinkable", no matter how comforting it may be to think of it in these terms. Somebody did this for a reason, and they thought it out.

Understanding exactly why is important, especially given that this guy isn't a Loughner. He wasn't insane. He had an ideology which compelled him to action. That doesn't make him nuts. Dangerous, yes, but not nuts.

That distinction is crucial.

pretty easy to over think it, and a waste of time

490 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:27:32pm

Norway killings: The laughing gunman who shot 85 young victims, one by one

The right-wing extremist who shot dead at least 85 people at a youth camp laughed, cheered and shouted “you all must die” as he sprayed the youngsters with bullets.
491 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:27:47pm
A severely burned category A or B traitor will in reality become a living symbol of what awaits individuals guilty of trying to sell their own people into Islamic slavery. They will act as a deterrent and contribute to spread fear in the hearts of the rest of the traitors and will thus cause more ideological damage than that of a dead body. He or she will become a living testament to what will happen to any and all category A and B traitors and everyone will learn that high treason is not without risks.
492 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:27:50pm

re: #487 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

And when they consider it's the EXACT same cultural conservative element, maybe it will click. Honestly, though, I don't hold out a lot of hope for that.

Don't.

A major meme developing is that he's not rightwing, he's neo-nazi. And that scale goes (from left to right) communist, nazi (national socialist), hippies, classic (adam smith) liberals...

493 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:27:50pm

re: #479 ProLifeLiberal

The only way this will stop in the US is an OKC analogue. Because only then will be people stop and think.

I would expect that to have about the same effect that George Tiller's murder had on Bill O'Reilly. "Nothing to do with me..."

494 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:28:33pm

re: #428 Fozzie Bear

They have mechanisms capable of effecting a life imprisonment, but they don't do it all in one sentence. I believe the maximum sentence at trial is 21 years, but it can be reviewed upon completion of the 21 years, and at that point the gov't can opt to tack on an extra 5 years. Every subsequent 5 years gets another review, and each time they can opt to detain the prisoner another 5 years.

So, they don't have life sentences, but they can keep prisoners in prison for life. (I may be mistaken about this, but this is my understanding)

Ah, I see, the same kind of situation Sirhan Sirhan is in, occasionally up for a parole that will never be granted.

495 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:29:07pm

re: #491 Sergey Romanov

A severely burned category A or B traitor will in reality become a living symbol of what awaits individuals guilty of trying to sell their own people into Islamic slavery. They will act as a deterrent and contribute to spread fear in the hearts of the rest of the traitors and will thus cause more ideological damage than that of a dead body.

Anti n-lover mentality.

496 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:30:02pm

re: #486 Killgore Trout

That reminds me. Big Kudos to all the lizards over the past few days. Everyone really did a great job researching, translating and discussing the terror attack in Norway. Good work, everyone.

Seconded! You guys have done a wonderful job. I'm really, really, really glad Charles broke away from the haters and I was able to become part of this community. I've learned a LOT and will continue to.

//If anyone calls me a ding whore for saying they're gonna get smacked.

497 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:30:37pm

re: #487 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

And when they consider it's the EXACT same cultural conservative element, maybe it will click. Honestly, though, I don't hold out a lot of hope for that.

Americans have a peculiar ability to convince themselves that things that happen outside their borders aren't relevant to them.

This will be largely considered Norwa's tragedy. Everybody will say "oh how sad" and "it's a senseless tragedy", with minimal introspection.

Unfortunately, I think it is true that the right wing won't face any real pushback from the center here in the US until something like this happens here. (When I say "the center" I mean the average uneducated dumb fuck in middle America. The people who don't make up their minds in elections until two days before the election, because somehow, they don't know the difference between the parties. Sad, but that's how it is.)

498 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:30:43pm
The basis of our selection process is to choose the primary propagandists of cultural Marxism/multiculturalism. Instead of wasting good men on an impossible mission we should target unprotected category A and B traitors first and foremost.

One of these 12 good men who failed to assassinate the US president could have successfully managed to execute 5 or more unprotected primary targets doing substantial and irreparable ideological damage to our enemies.

The following category A and B traitors should be focus targeted:

Cultural Marxist professors, leading anchor men/women of the cultural Marxist MSM, NGO leader’s, professors/lecturers etc (see complete list under “charges 1-8”). The reason why we must choose wisely is because that there aren’t that many of them and very few category A and B traitors have substantial influence and make an incredible impact on how our societies are shaped. They are usually experts or related to the field of sociology and give “well meaning advice” to the MSM, which usually involves the deconstruction of everything we hold dear.

499 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:31:58pm

I've been reading up on the MSM coverage. This is probably the end of the EDL too.

500 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:31:59pm

re: #496 CuriousLurker

Want to see something really creepy? I believe you described that expression as "beatific".

501 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:33:26pm

re: #344 Sergey Romanov

I rest my case on the maturity, emotional and otherwise. This guy lives in a 10 year old fantasy world, playing emperor of all while pulling wings off flies.

502 jvic  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:33:56pm

Four unrelated thoughts:

1. The document may not remain available indefinitely. I sent it to Virustotal, which cleared it with 43 anti-malware software packages.

2. This kind of individual lurks in the tails of political, religious, business, social, etc spectra, waiting for opportune conditions. I'm not saying every branch is equivalent; I'm saying that none is immune.

3. The era of do-it-yourself biotech is approaching.

4. It is fortunate that Breivik lacked charisma.

503 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:34:07pm
13. Replace the beams with rotten timbers

Disrupt the enemy's formations, interfere with their methods of operations, and change the rules in which they are used to follow, go contrary to their standard training. In this way you remove the supporting pillar, the common link that makes a group of men an effective fighting force.


Usage: Phase 1 urban warfare. You are wearing a police uniform and hand signalling to “a fellow system protector”, then use ”Thrust of the Martyr” and neutralise them without hesitation.

504 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:34:22pm

re: #486 Killgore Trout

That reminds me. Big Kudos to all the lizards over the past few days. Everyone really did a great job researching, translating and discussing the terror attack in Norway. Good work, everyone.

That is why I am still here. I know that the info I get is front line and vetted (as soon as it can be). Not much gets past the Lizard Nation.

Just wish I could contribute more.

505 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:34:48pm

re: #492 kirkspencer

Don't.

A major meme developing is that he's not rightwing, he's neo-nazi. And that scale goes (from left to right) communist, nazi (national socialist), hippies, classic (adam smith) liberals...

That perception is easily shot down by his own writings. He's not a neo-nazi and thinks neo-nazis (as well as the originals) are stupid.

He's Third Position, like a lot of these genteel white nationalist pseudo-intellectual clowns.

Virginia Abernethy, Kevin MacDonald, Jared Taylor, Pat Buchanan, Occidental Quarterly, The American Conservative mag, lewrockwell neo-confederates, all of the same ilk.

Conservatives in the US have been primed by this anti-federal government/states rights crapola for at least a generation, including The Bell Curve, FAIR/Numbers USA, Minutemen, militias, tea parties, oath keepers, etc. It's not fringe anymore.

506 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:35:05pm

re: #500 publicityStunted

Want to see something really creepy? I believe you described that expression as "beatific".

Yep, that's the look alright. When you see it in person their eyes look all glowy, like they can actually see "vision" the rest of us can't.

507 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:36:39pm

re: #502 jvic

3. The era of do-it-yourself biotech is approaching.

Shudder.

I don't see how humanity could possibly survive the democratization of bio-weaponry. Seriously.

508 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:37:30pm

re: #506 CuriousLurker

There are more of them out there on twitter, like this lowlife:

flowersophy accessory philosophy
#Utoya, #Oslo #Norway how blind are you giving your children to Nazi Camps! God punished you for abusing them! tinyurl.com/3mtqqno #EDL
[Link: twitter.com...]
509 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:38:16pm
c. Another strategy would be to consider making use of a remote detonation, burning car, or other forms of arson to attract attention to one location. Ensure that the enemy forces are heading for this location. By then, you will be on the opposite side of town and in the middle of the process of finishing your primary goal. This strategy might prove to be counter-productive in compact European cities depending on the nature of the operation.
510 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:38:57pm

re: #492 kirkspencer

he's neo-nazi. And that scale goes (from left to right) communist, nazi (national socialist), hippies, classic (adam smith) liberals...

I do agree, though...after all, we are talking about people who truly believe a vote for the Democratic Party in 2011 is a vote for the Ku Klux Klan circa 1871.

511 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:39:12pm

re: #506 CuriousLurker

Yep, that's the look alright. When you see it in person their eyes look all glowy, like they can actually see "vision" the rest of us can't.

I look like that when very stoned and full of pizza, settling back on the couch with a glass of wine in front of the fireplace while it snows outside. I just... don't get it. It takes a special kind of nutter to look so happy after doing something like that.

512 Interesting Times  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:41:51pm

re: #508 jaunte

There are more of them out there on twitter, like this lowlife:

flowersophy accessory philosophy
#Utoya, #Oslo #Norway how blind are you giving your children to Nazi Camps! God punished you for abusing them! tinyurl.com/3mtqqno #EDL

I can never get over how religious fanatics make God sound like the ultimate abusive psycho.

513 KingKenrod  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:43:56pm

re: #503 Sergey Romanov

Creepy. I think Breivik's primary goal in committing the massacre was to ensure his manifesto would be widely distributed to like-minded people.

514 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:44:34pm

re: #513 KingKenrod

Creepy. I think Breivik's primary goal in committing the massacre was to ensure his manifesto would be widely distributed to like-minded people.

Yes, he writes so explicitly.

515 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:44:51pm

re: #508 jaunte

There are more of them out there on twitter, like this lowlife:

Yeah, that's the problem. Even if you kill this guy, there are plenty more where he came from.

516 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:45:20pm

re: #512 publicityStunted

I can never get over how religious fanatics make God sound like the ultimate abusive psycho.

Have you forgotten "in his image", or is it the other way around?

517 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:46:48pm

Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

PZ Myers: A glimpse into the deranged mind of a mass murderer

I looked to see what he had to say about atheists, and it's quite a bit. His fantasy order is most definitely Christian, but he allows cultural Christians to be members: you don't have to believe in Jesus, but you have to respect the traditions and dogma and hierarchy of the Christian church. Jews are OK, but not those awful horrible liberal multiculturalists Jews. He is careful to say that he hates Adolf Hitler, but not for the reasons most of us would give: it's no big deal that he killed six million Jews, but he betrayed the European cause with his doomed strategies and irrational priorities that led to the downfall of the German empire.

You want a window into the sick mind of this evil fellow? Here are his musings on atheism and his plan for his martyrdom in some grand plan. Bonus mission? This guy thought he was a brave Christian knight playing a video game. Only in this game, the 'hero' murders unarmed teenagers with a rifle.

Myers also examines Breivik's musings on Richard Dawkins, and the blight of feminism.

518 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:47:03pm
Q: Personal achievements that you are most proud of?

A: I started the early stage of the planning phase (financing the operation) around 2002 by developing a company from scratch: Anders Behring Breivik ENK later converted to E-Commerce Group AS. During the next years I had a total of 7 employees in five different countries: 1 person in the US, 2 in Russia, 1 in Romania, 1 in Indonesia and 2 in Norway. From year 2002 to 2006 I made approximately 4 million NOK. The business concept was the outsourcing of programming services to clients in the US and Europe by using labour in Indonesia, Russia and Romania. The products ranged from web sites to advanced software solutions.

As noted, this, the financing stage, was as you may know a sub-task of a bigger operation, which is still in progress. The creation of this compendium is actually a larger and more central task in this process, as I would never have had enough funds to create it if wasn’t for my earlier financial/business ventures. The actual military operation is also a sub-task as well as it is a marketing method for the distribution of this compendium among other things.

519 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:47:23pm

Breivik isn't insane. He did everything right: he socialized with the neighbors enough to keep them from being suspicious, he managed to gather enough material to pull this off without raising suspicion, he did his homework and managed to produce a powerful bomb, and succeeded in bringing the weapons and ammo onto that island to pull of the massacre.

He really strikes me as a villain from a spy novel or something.

And the extremely sad/disturbing thing is, is that there are plenty of more people with the same ideology as him, who would hold him up as an example and try to carry on his work. It's people like him that should be rounded up and locked away for a long, long time.

520 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:48:00pm
Creation of marketing movie trailer

Feb 15th to Feb 26th: created a 12,5 minute movie trailer (slideshow trailer) promoting the compendium: “2083 – A European Declaration of Independence”. All the slides were created in Photoshop. After 12 days of hard work I can say I am somewhat satisfied with the end result. I would love to make it even better but I really can’t afford to invest any more time into this trailer which might never see the light of day… Not happy with end resolution but higher res would just make the AVI file too large for efficient distribution. Was planning to hire a low cost Asian movie guy through scriptlance.com but I have to conserve my funds.

521 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:48:32pm

re: #516 Naso Tang

Using quote put a double blockquote on the quoted text for that one. I didn't do it.

522 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:49:47pm

re: #507 Fozzie Bear

Shudder.

I don't see how humanity could possibly survive the democratization of bio-weaponry. Seriously.

re: #113 Gus 802

Image: image94.jpeg

For me this has to be the creepiest image so far. Is that asshole showing himself making mercury fulminate tipped bullets, or what? The whole freehand standing pose without glove is likely pure theater, but I'm curious what the fuck idea inspired that picture.

523 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:49:54pm

re: #519 commadore183

Breivik isn't insane. He did everything right: he socialized with the neighbors enough to keep them from being suspicious, he managed to gather enough material to pull this off without raising suspicion, he did his homework and managed to produce a powerful bomb, and succeeded in bringing the weapons and ammo onto that island to pull of the massacre.

He really strikes me as a villain from a spy novel or something.

And the extremely sad/disturbing thing is, is that there are plenty of more people with the same ideology as him, who would hold him up as an example and try to carry on his work. It's people like him that should be rounded up and locked away for a long, long time.

Sociopaths, dangers to selves and others. They need to be locked up and heavily drugged.

524 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:50:11pm

re: #513 KingKenrod

re: #514 Sergey Romanov

Excellent points. He's rational. Meticulous. Methodical. Resolute.

525 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:50:40pm
2002-2006

I am required to build a capital base in order to fund the creation of the compendium. I don’t know if I will ever proceed with a martyrdom operation at this point as it simply seems too radical.

My plan A is to attempt to acquire 3 million Euro, in which case I plan to establish a pan-European organizational platform that will attempt to grow organically as a support organization which will distribute a “legal version” of the compendium.

If I fail to generate the specified amount I will move forward with the operation, in order to market the compendium that way.

526 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:51:06pm

re: #525 Sergey Romanov

He murdered up to 100 people to market his and Fjordman's writings.

527 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:51:45pm

re: #526 Sergey Romanov

I believe I will make a page just for this point.

528 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:51:50pm

re: #522 goddamnedfrank

re: #113 Gus 802

For me this has to be the creepiest image so far. Is that asshole showing himself making mercury fulminate tipped bullets, or what? The whole freehand standing pose without glove is likely pure theater, but I'm curious what the fuck idea inspired that picture.

Looks like it. That's a syringe and bullet that he's posing with. As far as the inspiration? Long term derangement post 9/11 syndrome or something similar to that.

529 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:52:24pm

Casuals United in denial:

Norway terror attacks – Something aint right here
This whole thing just dont add up, it stinks of a set up. A few questions people have raised.
1. This guy couldnt have been any more “Aryan” if he wanted to be, looks like an actor selected for a job.
2. Hes a “right wing extremist” with anti Muslim views, yet he didnt attack any Muslims, he slaughtered his own people only. He could just have easily walked into a Mosque.
3. If, as we are told, the Prime Minister was due at the Island that day, why was the place not crawling with security as you just KNOW it would be days before any such visit.


(link is to Google cache)

530 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:53:40pm

re: #528 Gus 802

Looks like it. That's a syringe and bullet that he's posing with. As far as the inspiration? Long term derangement post 9/11 syndrome or something similar to that.

Or, any pretext and excuse to nurture supremacy issues and xenophobia.

No better than the dumb jihadis they decry.

531 General Nimrod Bodfish  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:54:08pm

re: #527 Sergey Romanov

I believe I will make a page just for this point.

Probably would be good to make a small summary with a link to your posts here.

532 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:54:34pm

re: #529 jaunte

Casuals United in denial:


(link is to Google cache)

"7/22 was an inside job!"

/Derp

533 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:54:36pm

re: #525 Sergey Romanov

Is this from the document linked in Charles' post above? If not can I have a link please.

534 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:55:22pm

re: #533 Fozzie Bear

Is this from the document linked in Charles' post above? If not can I have a link please.

[Link: www.2shared.com...]

535 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:56:13pm

re: #529 jaunte

No doubt there will be an industry of "truthers" like this idiot feeding on this soon.

536 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:56:59pm

re: #529 jaunte

Casuals United in denial:


(link is to Google cache)

Well, I can help them with at least one detail--the blondness. Norwegians really do look like that.

If these dumbasses will bother to look at the pictures of people waiting to find out if their loved ones are alive or dead, they will note that quite a bit of the population of the country is extremely blond, and has that long-boned 'Nordic' look. They look Nordic because they are Nordic. It is not a big mystery. Scandinavia has always been full of blond people.

537 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:57:02pm

re: #529 jaunte

Casuals United in denial:
1. This guy couldnt have been any more “Aryan” if he wanted to be, looks like an actor selected for a job.

He was a Norwegian. Seriously, what the hell?

2. Hes a “right wing extremist” with anti Muslim views, yet he didnt attack any Muslims, he slaughtered his own people only. He could just have easily walked into a Mosque.

And by reading his manifesto, you can understand why.


3. If, as we are told, the Prime Minister was due at the Island that day, why was the place not crawling with security as you just KNOW it would be days before any such visit.

Not in Norway.

Such pathetic denial.

And not at all surprised to find the guy was a vicious anti-Semite. Sure, sure, he loves Israel, and right-wing Jews. Most Jews are leftists. He wants to slaughter Jews. And blacks, obviously.

538 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:57:30pm

re: #534 Gus 802

[Link: www.2shared.com...]

Thank you, and holy fuck it's 764 pages. What a verbose person.

539 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:57:57pm

re: #527 Sergey Romanov

I believe I will make a page just for this point.

I believe that will document the "I told you so, motherfuckers" moment.

540 Only The Lurker Knows  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:58:24pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity smile down upon You.

541 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:58:42pm

re: #526 Sergey Romanov

He murdered up to 100 people to market his and Fjordman's writings.

That's what I mean, what bothers me. He's so damned... well almost detached in his planning. Like the cold, clinical way the Nazis were always trying to figure out how to make their genocide more efficient.

542 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:59:22pm

re: #541 CuriousLurker

That's what I mean, what bothers me. He's so damned... well almost detached in his planning. Like the cold, clinical way the Nazis were always trying to figure out how to make their genocide more efficient.

And documenting everything.

543 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 5:59:25pm

re: #535 Naso Tang

This statement (at that casuals link) from the NDL is interesting; shows what they're really concerned about:

PRESS RELEASE FROM NDL
It is with disbelief and sadness that we have received news of the tragedy at the government building and on the island.
Our goal has always been to provide information about the conflict between Western values and Islam, violence and terror is the means … we firmly reject.
The terrorist acts be connected with a person who is against multiculturalism and Islam, we must emphasize that the suspect has never been a member of our organization. People who advocate violence, racism or extremism has been and will be banned from NDL. This is in every way a setback for the debate in Norway. For us who want a fair debate, this is a situation we fear will be used against us. Our values are freedom of speech, equality, peace and democracy. It is our fear that the discussion will now end up in a track where our arguments are met with hatred and incoherent arguments.
But today is the day our condolences, thoughts and sympathies are with survivors, relatives of those killed, AUF and the Norwegian people. A total NDL condemns the terrorist attacks on 22 July 2011. A date that will forever stand as a day of mourning in the country’s history.

Admin in NDL

544 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:00:43pm

Still looking for more cues on his religious beliefs. That he is a "Christian fundamentalist" hit the nooz yesterday. He's not a fundamentalist Christian at all, he's a syncretic.

545 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:00:59pm

re: #538 Fozzie Bear

Thank you, and holy fuck it's 764 pages. What a verbose person.

I find it hard to believe that someone as obsessive as this, living with mother at 32, did not at least raise some eyebrows among people he had contact with.

546 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:01:04pm

re: #541 CuriousLurker

That's what I mean, what bothers me. He's so damned... well almost detached in his planning. Like the cold, clinical way the Nazis were always trying to figure out how to make their genocide more efficient.

They were so diligent because they really believed in what they were doing. If you think you are fighting the "good fight", that gives a person motivation.

I know, it's fucked up, but I can work for days on end if I think it's helping someone out with a problem that needs fixing. So can this guy.

It's chilling to think of it that way, but I really think it's the only way to understand this kind of madness.

547 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:01:06pm

re: #542 wrenchwench

And documenting everything.

Dear God. Yeah, that too. *shudder*

548 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:01:12pm

re: #541 CuriousLurker

I like the bit where he says "I'm not a holocaust denier" and then goes on with some top-notch holocaust denial (they wanted to deport the Jews at first, then they only killed them at the end when the Allies made deportation impossible, and anyway the Jews were really traitors and deserved it.).

549 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:01:35pm

re: #543 jaunte

This statement (at that casuals link) from the NDL is interesting; shows what they're really concerned about:

[snif]

550 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:01:58pm

Can anybody explain the significance of the "2083" on the title page of his manifesto? What does that mean?

552 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:02:43pm

re: #544 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Still looking for more cues on his religious beliefs. That he is a "Christian fundamentalist" hit the nooz yesterday. He's not a fundamentalist Christian at all, he's a syncretic.

Come on, don't make us look it up.

553 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:02:58pm

re: #551 Sergey Romanov

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

#fjordman

554 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:03:08pm

re: #545 Naso Tang

I find it hard to believe that someone as obsessive as this, living with mother at 32, did not at least raise some eyebrows among people he had contact with.

Living with your parents at 32 in Norway isn't even a little bit weird. It's pretty normal. They have far different views about what makes a person independent.

555 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:03:16pm

re: #546 Fozzie Bear

They were so diligent because they really believed in what they were doing. If you think you are fighting the "good fight", that gives a person motivation.

I know, it's fucked up, but I can work for days on end if I think it's helping someone out with a problem that needs fixing. So can this guy.

It's chilling to think of it that way, but I really think it's the only way to understand this kind of madness.

Yep, utter dedication to the cause at hand. It goes with the glowy eyes.

556 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:03:24pm

re: #545 Naso Tang

I find it hard to believe that someone as obsessive as this, living with mother at 32, did not at least raise some eyebrows among people he had contact with.

All this wasted effort these anti-modern males put into forcing things back to the 16th century, so they'll have more of an advantage.

If only they would put it into competing with everyone else in the real world, they'd be a lot happier.

557 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:04:38pm

re: #536 SanFranciscoZionist

Because Sunlight is a commodity for much of Scandinavia for 3-5 months of the year.

558 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:04:58pm

re: #544 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Still looking for more cues on his religious beliefs. That he is a "Christian fundamentalist" hit the nooz yesterday. He's not a fundamentalist Christian at all, he's a syncretic.

A syncretic thinker can be applied to more than religion.

559 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:05:20pm

re: #548 Obdicut

I like the bit where he says "I'm not a holocaust denier" and then goes on with some top-notch holocaust denial (they wanted to deport the Jews at first, then they only killed them at the end when the Allies made deportation impossible, and anyway the Jews were really traitors and deserved it.).

I missed that part. I just jumped in and haven't had a chance to go back and read everything yet. I'm definitely gonna turn the Word doc into a PDF as it'll be perfect for reading on my iPad.

560 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:06:45pm

Now, here's something that interested me:

Someone posted this yesterday from the CIA factbook.

The ethnic breakdown of the country is: Norwegian 94.4% (includes Sami, about 60,000), other European 3.6%, other 2% (2007 estimate)

Religious breakdown: Church of Norway 85.7%, Pentecostal 1%, Roman Catholic 1%, other Christian 2.4%, Muslim 1.8%, other 8.1% (2004)

The way people carry on about the Muslim 'invasion' of Europe, it makes it sound as though the whole effing continent is being overrun by these enormous hordes. One of the first e-mails I got about this horror was babbling about Geert Wilders, and immigration.

1.8 percent of the population? This is producing these areas of Oslo where white wimmin can't walk safely? This is producing a shackled dhimmi culture in which trembles in terror?

1.8 percent of the population?

561 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:07:22pm

re: #546 Fozzie Bear

They were so diligent because they really believed in what they were doing. If you think you are fighting the "good fight", that gives a person motivation.

I know, it's fucked up, but I can work for days on end if I think it's helping someone out with a problem that needs fixing. So can this guy.

It's chilling to think of it that way, but I really think it's the only way to understand this kind of madness.

I get what you're saying. This is just a personal theory but I think some lines of work can make a person develop OCD. You have to keep thinking the problem through until it's resolved. It trains the mind in certain ways. (So can fundamentalist, literalist thinking.) Who knows if it's true or not but it sure does appear that way at times.

562 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:07:29pm

re: #544 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

If he says he's a Christian, then he's a Christian.

This means we must have increased security checks at airports, specifically focusing on anyone who might be carrying a Bible or wearing Christian-themed jewelry, or otherwise dressed in Christian garb. And under no circumstances must we allow any Victory Churches to be built within miles of the two sites.

563 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:08:12pm

re: #548 Obdicut

He gets it partially right in the historical section. Although he fails to distinguish between the fates of the Soviet and the German (and then Western) Jews. Although there were no plans for wholesale extermination on June 22 (only "adult" males were shot initially), during July-August the policy radicalized to the point of the wholesale genocide of the Soviet Jewry (the crystallization came when EG reports began include "men/women/children" classification of victims). And yet there was no extermination policy for the Western Jews as of yet. The policy was still deportation, with radicalization/probable "Fuehrer's decision" only around October 1941, and implementation mostly in 1942 onwards.

564 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:08:12pm

re: #557 ProLifeLiberal

Because Sunlight is a commodity for much of Scandinavia for 3-5 months of the year.

What I want to know is why are their swimsuit models are always dressed so scantily if its so cold?

565 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:08:23pm

re: #562 negativ

If he says he's a Christian, then he's a Christian.

This means we must have increased security checks at airports, specifically focusing on anyone who might be carrying a Bible or wearing Christian-themed jewelry, or otherwise dressed in Christian garb. And under no circumstances must we allow any Victory Churches to be built within miles of the two sites.

[rimshot]

566 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:08:29pm

re: #559 CuriousLurker

There is a PDF for download, if you google.

567 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:08:37pm

re: #554 Fozzie Bear

Living with your parents at 32 in Norway isn't even a little bit weird. It's pretty normal. They have far different views about what makes a person independent.

As I said earlier, he had money and he had no concern for what happened to his mother after he "went away", as he knew he would.

I don't buy your answer, in this regard.

568 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:09:24pm

re: #566 Sergey Romanov

There is a PDF for download, if you google.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

569 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:09:53pm

re: #505 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That perception is easily shot down by his own writings. He's not a neo-nazi and thinks neo-nazis (as well as the originals) are stupid.

He's Third Position, like a lot of these genteel white nationalist pseudo-intellectual clowns.

Virginia Abernethy, Kevin MacDonald, Jared Taylor, Pat Buchanan, Occidental Quarterly, The American Conservative mag, lewrockwell neo-confederates, all of the same ilk.

Conservatives in the US have been primed by this anti-federal government/states rights crapola for at least a generation, including The Bell Curve, FAIR/Numbers USA, Minutemen, militias, tea parties, oath keepers, etc. It's not fringe anymore.

You miss the point. They're not going to read his writings. They're going to look at the costuming and posing and SAY he is. And then as re: #510 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin also notes, they'll use the false positioning of the nazis as Left, but not quite as left as the Communists.

Doncha get it? They're working hard to make this guy part of the Left, just as they claim Loughner is left and Stack was left and, well, everybody who did violence and couldn't be identified as Muslim was left.

No True Rightwinger would do this. //

570 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:10:02pm

re: #560 SanFranciscoZionist

That compares to the Vietnamese population of Houston.
Panic!

571 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:10:32pm

re: #563 Sergey Romanov

But deportation was never an actually formalized plan, as I understand it. It was something they said, but never really attempted. And some of the plans were deportation to work in the conquered areas, etc. Am I fucking that all up?

572 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:10:51pm

re: #560 SanFranciscoZionist

Hell, the highest it is anywhere in Western Europe is a tick under 10% in France.

It would make it to a fifth.

I plan on talking to OU about my Middle East Professor last year, who said Eurabia was true.

573 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:11:11pm

re: #558 prairiefire

A syncretic thinker can be applied to more than religion.

"Syncretic" basically just means bringing in many different elements to something, usually a religion. In other words, not pure, not "fundamentalist". "Fundamentalism" is a misused term, anyway; I thought it might have been a misnomer reading those initial reports, now after reading his Templars/Saints crankage, I know so.

574 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:11:52pm

re: #562 negativ

If he says he's a Christian, then he's a Christian.

This means we must have increased security checks at airports, specifically focusing on anyone who might be carrying a Bible or wearing Christian-themed jewelry, or otherwise dressed in Christian garb. And under no circumstances must we allow any Victory Churches to be built within miles of the two sites.

Rotfl! So true.

575 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:12:41pm

re: #567 Naso Tang

As I said earlier, he had money and he had no concern for what happened to his mother after he "went away", as he knew he would.

I don't buy your answer, in this regard.

I respectfully suggest you aren't understanding cultural norms in Scandinavia. There's nothing even a little bit weird about living with your parents as an adult there. It's completely normal.

I just don't think it was a factor in his mind. I don't think it was even a factor in his thinking, any more than his choice of brand of spatula.

576 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:12:46pm

re: #538 Fozzie Bear

Thank you, and holy fuck it's 764 pages. What a verbose person.

1,518 pages.

577 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:13:06pm

re: #571 Obdicut

It was basically a question of where to deport, with first real (but quite sorry) attempts at Nisko. After the failure of Madagascar, they expected that the Soviet territory would become a destination for their Jews, and when that failed (for obvious reasons) they began to build the extermination camps. I would recommend Christopher Browning's Origins of the Final Solution, he lays it out with clarity.

578 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:13:32pm

I have learned a lot on this thread. Great work from a bunch of good folks. So, how many of us have google +1? Can we get that counter up a bit? It's only at two now.

579 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:13:34pm

re: #564 jamesfirecat

Simple. They got used to the cold.

580 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:14:56pm

re: #575 Fozzie Bear

I respectfully suggest you aren't understanding cultural norms in Scandinavia. There's nothing even a little bit weird about living with your parents as an adult there. It's completely normal.

I just don't think it was a factor in his mind. I don't think it was even a factor in his thinking, any more than his choice of brand of spatula.

Well, if you're a "Templar Knight", and planning to die or be captured in 'battle', why bother to waste money on your own apartment? Keep it for the cause, and let Mom wash your socks.

581 Obdicut  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:15:10pm

re: #577 Sergey Romanov

Yeah, okay, that's pretty much what I remember, that the original attempts were just not going to actually get anywhere, and then it turned to deporting them to the depopulated Soviet areas where they'd be slave labor, which, you know, is different than 'deport to Israel'.

And obviously, your point about Soviet Jews is well-taken. They were being massacred.

582 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:15:37pm

re: #560 SanFranciscoZionist


1.8 percent of the population?

Not to derail, but there are problems in some areas because immigrants tend to cluster and one gets "border" and then frictions. I don't know the details in Oslo, but southern Sweden has frictions for that reason in at least one city. Denmark too and we have all read about the periodic car burns in Paris fairly regularly.

Cultural assimilation is a problem for many, on all sides, and it is not something one can ignore away because of extremism like this case.

583 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:16:14pm

re: #569 kirkspencer

You miss the point. They're not going to read his writings. They're going to look at the costuming and posing and SAY he is. And then as re: #510 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin also notes, they'll use the false positioning of the nazis as Left, but not quite as left as the Communists.

Doncha get it? They're working hard to make this guy part of the Left, just as they claim Loughner is left and Stack was left and, well, everybody who did violence and couldn't be identified as Muslim was left.

No True Rightwinger would do this. //

Yes I do get it.

They will be as wrong about him as they are about Democrat Party = KKK, as wrong as they were when they used to shriek MLK = Communist, as wrong as they are about everything else in their miserable cultural con lives.

It won't ever stop them from doing it, but then, you're talking to someone who does not see an end to their behavior any time soon.

584 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:16:59pm

re: #582 Naso Tang

Good point. 1.8% can be a lot if they live in a ghetto.

585 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:17:37pm

Alright, I'm gonna order a pizza and go catch up with all the reading.

Have fun.

586 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:18:01pm

It was deleted earlier but someone re-uploaded the killer's YouTube video:

587 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:18:36pm

re: #575 Fozzie Bear

As you wish. I have relatives in Sweden, and school friends. I don't know of anyone over 30 living at home who is not a caregiver, or in one case socially disadvantaged.

Maybe things changed after I passed 30.

588 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:18:55pm

re: #582 Naso Tang

Not to derail, but there are problems in some areas because immigrants tend to cluster and one gets "border" and then frictions. I don't know the details in Oslo, but southern Sweden has frictions for that reason in at least one city. Denmark too and we have all read about the periodic car burns in Paris fairly regularly.

Cultural assimilation is a problem for many, on all sides, and it is not something one can ignore away because of extremism like this case.

Point well taken, but frankly, given how the threat is played up, and the pure hysterics that we've seen here before about Oslo, the actual numbers surprised me.

589 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:19:35pm

re: #582 Naso Tang

Cultural assimilation is a problem for many, on all sides, and it is not something one can ignore away because of extremism like this case.

Then you get the problem of people trying to culturally assimilate, but who are restricted from doing so, at all points.

590 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:21:37pm

re: #578 Rightwingconspirator

I have learned a lot on this thread. Great work from a bunch of good folks. So, how many of us have google +1? Can we get that counter up a bit? It's only at two now.

Effen Google....I Googled myself Friday afternoon and it returned my Job title and my life info...I did a beenverified search once and it returned my life in Napa including my Street Address in St. Helena during College.. The Internet has found me.. And has me documented..

591 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:22:10pm

re: #589 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

In particular Germany, who is refusing in some measure to give citizenship to somewhere between 1-4 million Turks.

592 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:26:20pm

re: #590 HoosierHoops

Yeah the internet is dissolving privacy a byte at a time. Per microsecond. I kinda gave up and decided to go open. I just put my name in. Good thing I did give up. I'd be pissed. LOL. That where you lived thing is scary. Glad they got that a bit wrong.

593 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:29:52pm

re: #543 jaunte

This statement (at that casuals link) from the NDL is interesting; shows what they're really concerned about:

92 dead, most of them kids....These cultural cons will take ANY opportunity to cling to the mantle of Victim #1.

Poor us! This might hurt our public image, boohoo!!

594 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:30:40pm

re: #592 Rightwingconspirator

Yeah the internet is dissolving privacy a byte at a time. Per microsecond. I kinda gave up and decided to go open. I just put my name in. Good thing I did give up. I'd be pissed. LOL. That where you lived thing is scary. Glad they got that a bit wrong.

If you google my name..#1 is a Linkin profile that somebody published about me.. Kind of freaks you out...I've been invited to speak at Scopes in Florida this year...That's kind of cool

595 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:30:47pm

re: #589 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Then you get the problem of people trying to culturally assimilate, but who are restricted from doing so, at all points.

Religion does have a way of preventing or slowing cultural assimilation, when the dominant culture is of a differing religion than the immigrating culture.

The only way to facilitate assimilation in that context is to make religion a non-issue. I.e., welcome all comers. (The opposite of what AB is calling for)

596 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:30:50pm
Q: Name your favourite; a. music, b. destination, c. possession or item with high affection value, d. clothing brand, e. au de toilette, f. ball sport, g. football team, h. comedian, i. food, j. movie, k. type of architecture and interior design direction, l. beer, m. drink, n. books


A: a. Vocal elektronika (vocal trance) but also classical music and pop. Armin van Buuren, John O'Callaghan, Marcus Shossow with vocals like Audrey Gallagher, Emma Hewitt, Sarah Howells, Sheryl Dean, Helene Bøksle, Saga etc. I also appreciate classical music.

Opera: Wagner, Verdi, Mozart

b. Budapest, the architecture and cultural treasures are amazing, nightlife and people exceptional. Valetta, Malta is extremely impressive as well. A perfect balance of culture and nightlife. The architecture and historical sites in Valetta are amazing. Everyone should study the history of Malta as it was Western Europes frontline against Jihad for centuries and its history, architecture and historical sites reflect this. I did enjoy Las Vegas as well but I really dislike the superficial aspects of American society. The American state I found least superficial was Texas. I still love so many aspects of US cultural though. It’s hard not to love it, but there is no place like European metropolitans. Biggest shit hole: it must be Ivory Coast and Liberia.

c. My Ipod + my Breitling Crosswind, chronograph.

Also my collection of oil/air brush paintings I had custom made from the best graffiti artist in Norway, Coderock. It’s a collection and recreation of 12 paintings. I’ve given two of them to friends.

d. LaCoste

e. Chanel Platinum Egoiste

f. Football or beach volley

g. Oslo’s Lyn and Bygdøy Ballklubb

h. Pat Condell

i. No favourite. All cultures have excellent dishes.

j. 300, Sci-fi, zombie, Lord of the Ring, Star Wars, Passion of the Christ

k. Futuristic classical minimalism or pure baroque depending on the designated room/structure

l. Budweiser (the real Czech Bud, not the American piss water:P)

m. Red Bull + Absolute

n. George Orwell - Nineteen Eighty-Four, Thomas Hobbes – Leviathan, John Stuart Mill - On Liberty, John Locke - Essay Concerning Human Understanding, Adam Smith - The Wealth of Nations, Edmund Burke - Reflections on the Revolution in France, Ayn Rand – Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, William James – Pragmatism, Carl von Clausewitz - On War, Fjordman – Defeating Eurabia

Other important books I’ve read (in random order):

The Bible, Avesta, Quran, Hadith, Plato - The Republic, Niccolò Machiavelli - The Prince, William Shakespeare - First Folio, Immanuel Kant - Critique of Pure Reason, Homer - Iliad and Odyssey, Dante Alighieri - The Divine Comedy, Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels - Communist Manifesto, Charles Darwin - The Origin of Species, Leo Tolstoy - War and Peace, Franz Kafka - The Trial, Arnold Joseph Toynbee - A Study of History

Q: Name one living person you would like to meet?

A: The Pope or Vladimir Putin. Putin seems like a fair and resolute leader worthy of respect. I’m unsure at this point whether he has the potential to be our best friend or our worst enemy though. He’s very hard to psychoanalyze. I wouldn’t want to be his enemy, that’s for sure. Obviously, he has to openly condemn us at this point which is understandable.

597 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:31:54pm

Ugh, I kindly but boring neighbor has informed me of his intent to invite to a dinner party (with other kindly but boring neighbors). One of the main reasons I'm single is to avoid dinner parties. My friends know not to invite to these things. My desire to avoid a dinner party overwhelms my desire to avoid hurting people's feelings. I suppose I'll just tell him I have social phobias and I'm off my meds.

598 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:32:21pm

Sorry for OT but Wikipedia has something on Libya:

Rebels claim to have fired rockets at a meeting of senior Gadaffi-regime officials in the capital Tripoli.

'

The implications, they are many.

599 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:32:35pm

re: #589 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Then you get the problem of people trying to culturally assimilate, but who are restricted from doing so, at all points.

Depends what your meaning of assimilation is. My understanding is that it means giving up your culture for the most part (OK, keep the recipes). If you think most immigrants try hard to do that you need only look close to home.

I see little evidence of restriction unless you want to reduce it to pure racism.

600 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:33:42pm

re: #590 HoosierHoops

Effen Google...I Googled myself Friday afternoon and it returned my Job title and my life info...I did a beenverified search once and it returned my life in Napa including my Street Address in St. Helena during College.. The Internet has found me.. And has me documented..

Create a pseudonym, with a fictitious address, etc. Use only that fake identity when doing things online. It's what I do, and if you google my real name... nothing. Not a damn thing.

It really does work.

601 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:34:09pm

I hope this is not old news in this huge thread.
BBC-Anders Behring Breivik, 32, described his actions as "gruesome but necessary", and said he would explain himself at a court hearing on Monday.

Looks like we see why he surrendered. He does want to use the court to espouse his insanities. Even his lawyer says he planned this for some time.

602 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:34:23pm
I took a year off when I was 25 and played WoW PvE hardcore for a year.
603 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:34:27pm

NYT:


Norway Attacks Put Spotlight on Rise of Right-Wing Sentiment in Europe
...Friday’s attacks were swiftly condemned by leaders from across the political spectrum in Europe. Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel was particularly sharp in speaking out against what she called an “appalling crime.” The sort of hatred that could fuel such an action, she said, went against “freedom, respect and the belief in peaceful coexistence.”

Yet some of the primary motivations cited by the suspect in Norway, Anders Behring Breivik, are now mainstream issues. Mrs. Merkel, President Nicolas Sarkozy of France and Prime Minister David Cameron in Britain all recently declared an end to multiculturalism. Multiculturalism “has failed, utterly failed,” Mrs. Merkel told fellow Christian Democrats last October, though stressing that immigrants were welcome in Germany.

604 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:35:35pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

"The World is too much with us; Late and soon."[Link: www.eliteskills.com...]

605 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:35:48pm

re: #595 Fozzie Bear

Religion does have a way of preventing or slowing cultural assimilation, when the dominant culture is of a differing religion than the immigrating culture.

Religion is pretty much a non issue for most Scandinavians. They could care less what someone does in that regard, as long as it does not impose on anyone else.

606 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:37:11pm

re: #601 Rightwingconspirator

I hope this is not old news in this huge thread.
BBC-Anders Behring Breivik, 32, described his actions as "gruesome but necessary", and said he would explain himself at a court hearing on Monday.

Looks like we see why he surrendered. He does want to use the court to espouse his insanities. Even his lawyer says he planned this for some time.

Much as I'm all for having one's day in court, this is one situation where I think the whole session should be kept in a media blackout and with no public access. Deprive him of his audience.

607 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:37:27pm

re: #603 jaunte

All three of them were already have major problems. This could hurt them even worse.

608 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:37:41pm

re: #604 prairiefire

"The World is too much with us; Late and soon."[Link: www.eliteskills.com...]

I never found the companion that was so companionable as solitude. We are for the most part more lonely when we go abroad among men than when we stay in our chambers. ~Henry David Thoreau

609 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:42:35pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

Sounds like you do have social phobias. I don't know about the meds however.

610 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:44:24pm

Here is the Thomas Merton quote I was thinking of yesterday, which applies to Geller, Fjordman and all:

""Merely to resist evil with evil by hating those who hate us and seeking to destroy them, is actually no resistance at all. It is active and purposeful collaboration in evil that brings the Christian into direct and intimate contact with the same source of evil and hatred which inspires the acts of his enemy. It leads in practice to a denial of Christ and to the service of hatred rather than love."
— Thomas Merton (Passion for Peace; Reflections on War and Nonviolence)

611 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:44:55pm

What happens next is outlined in the book:

3.70 Court/trial statements for Justiciar Knight and other patriotic resistance fighters after an operation

These statements are meant to be used after a successful operation. If you are arrested during the planning or acquisition phase then, obviously, ignore the following approaches and rather focus on getting acquitted so you may implement your operation B.

A trial is an excellent opportunity and a well suited arena the Justiciar Knight can use to publicly renounce the authority of the EUSSR/USASSR hegemony and the specific cultural Marxist/multiculturalist regime.

[...]

The Justiciar Knight must demand the right to form a cultural conservative tribunal consisting of the 20 most dedicated and trustworthy cultural conservative/patriotic leaders in the country. Furthermore, he must demand that that the national parliament immediately transfers all political powers to this newly established tribunal/cabinet. The Justiciar Knight must also demand at least 20 hours of unrestricted access to the national broadcasting company in order to consolidate and rally an initial and loyal patriotic military force (2000 should be a benchmark depending on the size of the country). The Justiciar Knight and the newly established tribunal will then appoint one trustworthy individual in his newly appointed cabinet to be the new national military commander with control of the national regular military forces. Martial law must be declared in this transitional period. (See relevant phase 3 strategies for more detailed descriptions).

By the time you are done presenting your demands, the judges and the trial audience will probably laugh their asses off and mock you for being ridiculous. Nevertheless, it is important to ignore the ridicule and remain firm and focused. After all, it is what we in fact expect to happen one day. If we truly believe that, then more people will as well. It might sound completely ridiculous and funny to most people today. But by presenting the following accusations and demands in all seriousness we are indirectly conditioning everyone listening for the conflicts and scenarios ahead. They will laugh today, but in the back of their minds, they have an ounce of fear, respect and admiration for our cause and the alternative and authority we represent. Because they know that it is not completely unlikely that the scenario you just described will in fact happen one day in a not too distant future.


612 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:45:35pm

re: #600 Fozzie Bear

Create a pseudonym, with a fictitious address, etc. Use only that fake identity when doing things online. It's what I do, and if you google my real name... nothing. Not a damn thing.

It really does work.

It's too late...You know..I've been on the Net since Netscape 1.0...I work in IT...I don't hide but then again.. I don't have a facebook page...I don't do social networking.. I only blog here...
But Google knows all about me...including my newest title at work..WTF?
/Even though Charles knows who I am you just know he Googled me..and laughed..What's up with the Senior part of the new title Charles? Makes me sound really old....:)
Google knows my sh*t....I don't like that..But I guess whatever.. Nobody forced me on the Net

613 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:45:40pm
Using the court proceedings as a platform to further our cause

The goal for the European resistance fighter is not to win the trial but to present all available evidence, presented in this compendium, and his cause in the most favourable way in order to help generate a maximum amount of sympathisers and supporters for the national and/or European patriotic resistance movement. The judges will not be sympathetic towards you because they are, after all, representatives of the regime we wish to defeat. After a successful operation, allowing capture and the subsequent court proceedings may presents several propaganda opportunities. The trial itself may not end up as anything else than a formality where the goal can be to change the law, forcing the parliament of that country to introduce the death penalty, or harshen the penal laws in other ways. Indirectly forcing the parliament of your country to change the laws will be an indirect victory to our movement because it will provide significant media coverage of our cause and thus will contribute to future recruitment efforts. Devastating attacks will develop into an existential conflict between the regime and the resistance movement where the regime ultimately will lose or will be forced to use Stalinist methods. In both cases, they will eventually lose.

614 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:47:22pm

An example of opening and closing statements is provided, would be interesting to compare.

615 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:48:46pm

re: #583 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yes I do get it.

They will be as wrong about him as they are about Democrat Party = KKK, as wrong as they were when they used to shriek MLK = Communist, as wrong as they are about everything else in their miserable cultural con lives.

It won't ever stop them from doing it, but then, you're talking to someone who does not see an end to their behavior any time soon.

mea culpa. Been dealing with some very, umm, staunch members of the right. Honorable, but completely wedded to the idea that liberals are at best woefully confused about how things really are.

(Honorable. I mean that. I'd trust them with my daughter's life, much less mine.)

616 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:49:31pm

Undeniably a crass thing to say but true nonetheless, schadenfreude will keep me warm tonight:

Breivik was a fan of Tea Party darling Pamela Geller's rabid, anti-Islam website Atlas Shrugs, and made frequent comments there. Indeed Breivik's irrational fear and hatred of Islam and marxism, coupled with his Christian fundamentalism, makes him an ideological twin to many of the most dangerous members of the American Tea Party.

617 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:50:12pm

re: #611 Sergey Romanov

It occurs to me that the type of world this guy wanted was described in this film.

V for vendetta

618 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:51:36pm

re: #617 Naso Tang

He's the anti-V.

619 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:57:07pm

re: #617 Naso Tang

It occurs to me that the type of world this guy wanted was described in this film.

V for vendetta

He writes the way people who write fetish erotica write. The care, the rules, the detailed scenarios. Sade did this, so do a range of 'Anonymous' writers with obsessions in one area or another.

I don't think this means that porn writers are potential terrorists (although Sade was not exactly someone you wanted wandering around on his own), but I do think this guy's future world was sexually satisfying to him in some way.

(Amateur shrink hour over.)

620 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:57:44pm

re: #615 kirkspencer

It's the same way with my mother in law.

621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:58:39pm

re: #597 Killgore Trout

Ugh, I kindly but boring neighbor has informed me of his intent to invite to a dinner party (with other kindly but boring neighbors). One of the main reasons I'm single is to avoid dinner parties. My friends know not to invite to these things. My desire to avoid a dinner party overwhelms my desire to avoid hurting people's feelings. I suppose I'll just tell him I have social phobias and I'm off my meds.

Just ask him, "There going to be any screwing? I love orgy parties!"

He might not ask again.

622 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:59:34pm

re: #619 SanFranciscoZionist

.......

You mean he was getting.....

Dear God. Part of me says just allow the parents of the children he killed deal with him.

623 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 6:59:56pm

re: #621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just ask him, "There going to be any screwing? I love orgy parties!"

He might not ask again.

I learned a long time ago to be careful of such. For example, what if he answers "Sure, we just didn't think you'd be interested yet."

624 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:00:49pm

re: #616 goddamnedfrank

There is going to be enough spin in the coming days to do a load of laundry...but it will be difficult for anyone with half a brain to avoid making this connection.

625 blueraven  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:03:09pm

re: #611 Sergey Romanov

What happens next is outlined in the book:

He is stark raving mad.

626 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:03:16pm

Norway's prime minister reacts:

Image: stoltenberg_oslo_terror_04.jpg

627 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:03:31pm

re: #544 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Still looking for more cues on his religious beliefs. That he is a "Christian fundamentalist" hit the nooz yesterday. He's not a fundamentalist Christian at all, he's a syncretic.

He's a nut!
-Barney Fife

628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:04:08pm

re: #623 kirkspencer

Helluva point there, Kirk.

629 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:06:15pm

re: #627 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heck, in the sense of Christian meaning follower of Christ, he's not one at all.

630 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:07:08pm

re: #609 Naso Tang

Sounds like you do have social phobias. I don't know about the meds however.

Possibly. I could attend the dinner party, I'm capable but I'd rather not. I'm thinking two hours minimum of good behavior. No Politics, no religion, don't pick my nose, scratch my balls, offend anyone in any way, etc. I suppose I could do this but why would I if I don't have to? It's not enjoyable but I suppose I could do it as a challenge.

631 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:07:59pm

re: #621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just ask him, "There going to be any screwing? I love orgy parties!"

He might not ask again.

He might say yes.

632 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:08:02pm

re: #619 SanFranciscoZionist

Yes, and I have only read what has been posted here. I don't think I can take the whole thing.

But, to repeat, the impression I get is the experience of an adult but the unformed maturity of a child.

633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:08:32pm

re: #519 commadore183

He really strikes me as a villain from a spy novel or something.

He looks like one of a James Bond movie villain's henchmen. Just needs the shiny jumpsuit.

634 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:08:47pm

re: #630 Killgore Trout

Possibly. I could attend the dinner party, I'm capable but I'd rather not. I'm thinking two hours minimum of good behavior. No Politics, no religion, don't pick my nose, scratch my balls, offend anyone in any way, etc. I suppose I could do this but why would I if I don't have to? It's not enjoyable but I suppose I could do it as a challenge.

Do it. You never know, you could get laid.

635 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:09:12pm

re: #630 Killgore Trout

A Haiku or you:

Living alone
Ripping a big fart
No one laughs.

(I'm not sure if the syllable count is correct)

636 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:10:02pm

re: #634 Naso Tang

Do it. You never know, you could get laid.

Too much hassle.

637 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:10:39pm

re: #635 Ojoe

A Haiku or you:

Living alone
Ripping a big fart
No one laughs frowns.

638 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:11:13pm

re: #636 Killgore Trout

You are a tough nut.

639 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:11:40pm

re: #637 Naso Tang

I like it better when they laugh

640 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:12:40pm

re: #633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He looks like one of a James Bond movie villain's henchmen. Just needs the shiny jumpsuit.

He's got one.

641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:13:19pm

re: #630 Killgore Trout

Aren't you a little young to be a curmudgeon?

642 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:13:44pm

re: #639 Ojoe

I like it better when they laugh

I do it louder when no one has to.

643 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:13:59pm

When I was a kid (about 9 or 10) we lived in Greece. The Greek tradition is to offer sweets to guests, an offer that can't be refused. Even as a kid I didn't like sweets so I somehow figured out what diabetes was and started telling people I was diabetic. No more forced sweets. This gimmick has served me well for a very long time. Social phobias, no meds. Perfect!

644 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:14:00pm

Good evening Lizards. I have been at work all day, so I have not read LGF today. But yesterday's tragedy shows once again that automatically aligning with anti-Muslim far rightists is something nobody should do if they want to claim any moral high ground. It is particularly wrong for any Jews to do this because the far right nazi types have killed more of their people than 1000 Osama Bin Ladens. And after seeing how brutal and heartless the guy in Norway was, he is just as much a product of the devil as any other type of terrorist.

645 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:14:16pm

re: #641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Aren't you a little young to be a curmudgeon?

Early ripe early rotten.


(Irish Grandma's saying)

646 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:15:07pm

re: #641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Aren't you a little young to be a curmudgeon?

maybe he's not into free food...I wouldn't go either, but I'd just say no thanks and forget it

647 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:15:15pm

re: #642 Naso Tang

Maybe they will laugh in the next town over.

648 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:15:31pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

When I was a kid (about 9 or 10) we lived in Greece. The Greek tradition is to offer sweets to guests, an offer that can't be refused. Even as a kid I didn't like sweets so I somehow figured out what diabetes was and started telling people I was diabetic. No more forced sweets. This gimmick has served me well for a very long time. Social phobias, no meds. Perfect!

And when liquor is offered, are you an alcoholic?

649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:15:31pm

re: #633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He looks like one of a James Bond movie villain's henchmen. Just needs the shiny jumpsuit.

Just occurred to me who the killer (not typing his name, not learning how to spell it) reminds me of...

Caution... your going to say, "Holy shit!"

650 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:16:20pm

re: #624 bratwurst

There is going to be enough spin in the coming days to do a load of laundry...but it will be difficult for anyone with half a brain to avoid making this connection.

I hope Interpol seizes her servers and investigates every aspect of their contact.

651 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:17:44pm

re: #626 Charles

Norway's prime minister reacts:

Image: stoltenberg_oslo_terror_04.jpg

That is a really poignant image right there. Astounding.

652 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:18:25pm

re: #646 albusteve

maybe he's not into free food...I wouldn't go either, but I'd just say no thanks and forget it

Because it is like a million degrees out side.. I didn't go to the Dance tonight...I don't care who the band is..
So here I am blogging with you fine lizards on a Saturday Night

653 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:21:27pm

re: #609 Naso Tang

Sounds like you do have social phobias. I don't know about the meds however.

Sounds to me more like good old-fashioned misanthropy. Expert opinion, mind you.

In a desperate effort to find a conversation that doesn't have something to do with terrorism, Amy Winehouse, or the goddamned debt ceiling, let me just offer this: Today is the first day in approximately 7 years that I haven't taken an antidepressant. I am making a concerted effort to see how things go without it.

654 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:22:18pm

re: #641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Aren't you a little young to be a curmudgeon?

One is never too young to have a low tolerance for inanity.

655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:23:17pm

re: #643 Killgore Trout

A man moves into a house out in the country and introduces himself to his new neighbor. The neighbor says, "Welcome! There's gonna be a huge party tonight. There's gonna be some drinkin' and some fuckin' and some music and some fightin' and perhaps some dancin'." "Great!" says the city boy. "What should I wear?" The neighbor replies, "Oh, don't really matter. Just gonna be you and me."

656 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:23:21pm

re: #654 negativ

One is never too young to have a low tolerance for inanity.

That's right.

Damn kids. Get off my lawn.

657 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:23:27pm

re: #653 negativ

Sounds to me more like good old-fashioned misanthropy. Expert opinion, mind you.

In a desperate effort to find a conversation that doesn't have something to do with terrorism, Amy Winehouse, or the goddamned debt ceiling, let me just offer this: Today is the first day in approximately 7 years that I haven't taken an antidepressant. I am making a concerted effort to see how things go without it.

Maybe you change your screen name to "positiv"

Good luck!

658 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:23:35pm

re: #650 goddamnedfrank

I hope Interpol seizes her servers and investigates every aspect of their contact.

this guy is 600 pounds of sin....anybody that ever even said hello to him will probably be traced...I'm convinced he had help even if they didn't realize it at the time

659 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:24:13pm

re: #652 HoosierHoops

Hey we are sitting in tonight too. Had a good dinner, now its Trader Vics Dark Rum and Morgan Freemans Through The Wormhole. Today it was work on the new short video outline/script. Tonight it's relax and blog.

660 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:24:17pm

re: #653 negativ

If you need them? Bad idea.

Bad juju, there.

661 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:24:22pm

re: #652 HoosierHoops

Because it is like a million degrees out side.. I didn't go to the Dance tonight...I don't care who the band is..
So here I am blogging with you fine lizards on a Saturday Night

and here I have a kidney stone kicking my ass....kind of a buzz kill

662 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:25:42pm

re: #659 Rightwingconspirator

I could listen to Morgan Freeman read the phone book.

663 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:26:38pm

re: #655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A man moves into a house out in the country and introduces himself to his new neighbor. The neighbor says, "Welcome! There's gonna be a huge party tonight. There's gonna be some drinkin' and some fuckin' and some music and some fightin' and perhaps some dancin'." "Great!" says the city boy. "What should I wear?" The neighbor replies, "Oh, don't really matter. Just gonna be you and me."

lol

664 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:26:45pm

re: #650 goddamnedfrank

Does Interpol have the power to do that?

665 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:27:12pm

re: #662 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I could listen to Morgan Freeman read the phone book.

666 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:27:19pm

Old school crowd right now ... Takes me back!

667 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:27:23pm

re: #653 negativ

Today is the first day in approximately 7 years that I haven't taken an antidepressant. I am making a concerted effort to see how things go without it.

Years ago I found that whatever today felt like, I could remember when it didn't, so it didn't have to today.

Took years to not have to do the routine at all, but it worked.

668 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:27:47pm

So anyone else see Captain America yet?

669 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:27:55pm

re: #664 ProLifeLiberal

Does Interpol have the power to do that?

No.

670 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:28:04pm

re: #665 jaunte

Remember Easy Reader?

671 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:28:29pm

re: #670 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ha!

672 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:28:42pm

re: #668 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So anyone else see Captain America yet?

The Mrs. Fish and I are intending to burn our date night this week on Harry Potter, simply because she hasn't seen or read the end of the story yet. Hoping to make Captain America next week, though. I have heard rave reviews from a few friends who have seen it; ranking it right behind Iron Man on the coolness scale from Marvel Comics.

673 jaunte  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:30:11pm

re: #670 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This one's better:

674 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:30:12pm

Getting bleary eyed now. Time to call it. Goodnight.

675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:30:24pm

re: #668 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Had to do Potter first. Amazing movie.

Several I want to see now. I think Captain America is next, though.

676 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:30:48pm

re: #668 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So anyone else see Captain America yet?

ah no...it well be some sort of accident of I ever do...
I'm into Mighty Mouse

677 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:31:14pm

re: #672 thedopefishlives

The Mrs. Fish and I are intending to burn our date night this week on Harry Potter, simply because she hasn't seen or read the end of the story yet. Hoping to make Captain America next week, though. I have heard rave reviews from a few friends who have seen it; ranking it right behind Iron Man on the coolness scale from Marvel Comics.

It was pretty fun, plus they brought in some of the old Howling Commandos as his unit, minus Nick Fury.

678 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:31:51pm

re: #669 kirkspencer

How would they get the stuff then? Request a subpoena from the US?

679 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:32:43pm

re: #676 albusteve

ah no...it well be some sort of accident of I ever do...
I'm into Mighty Mouse

But you'll miss the big musical number.

680 Achilles Tang  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:32:53pm

Oh, and in case anyone hasn't noticed. The children are still squabbling over debt. Hide your assets.

681 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:33:06pm

re: #664 ProLifeLiberal

Does Interpol have the power to do that?

Expanding the "no", Interpol is basically a liaison agency. They're a conduit/interface between police agencies in different nations, especially those who don't usually work together. (Not much need for interpol in US/Canada work. US/Romania, on the other hand, will have interpol involved.)

As part of their role they provide international record assistance - fingerprints, DNA records, mug shots, stolen/lost travel documents, etc. Essentially a duplicate of what's in member nations' files, but in one consolidated location. A pass of "do these match" to interpol can pull a match (if it exists) and what nation (or nations) the case needs to work with for priors.

682 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:33:17pm

re: #679 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

But you'll miss the big musical number.

yes, that's the point

683 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:33:42pm

The reviews of Captain America are very good..
Compared to the original Indiana Jones movie

684 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:34:34pm

re: #683 HoosierHoops

The reviews of Captain America are very good..
Compared to the original Indiana Jones movie

Red Skull makes an Indy reference, laughing at Hitler digging for trinkets in the desert.

685 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:34:47pm

my kids made me take them to see Titanic....really awful movie...the last movie I saw in a theater was LOTR

686 kirkspencer  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:35:26pm

re: #678 ProLifeLiberal

How would they get the stuff then? Request a subpoena from the US?

Yep. Or more likely (as per my 681 response) via an interpol request. It might or might not be answered, by the way. Local nation laws, and I don't think there's enough cause, yet, for the US to subpoena/warrant her material.

687 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:35:28pm

re: #677 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It was pretty fun, plus they brought in some of the old Howling Commandos as his unit, minus Nick Fury.

I wasn't a terribly big comic book guy, but the Mrs. Fish has a decent amount of knowledge in that universe. The meteoric rise of superhero movies has really thrilled her.

688 jvic  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:35:38pm

1. re: #653 negativ

...Today is the first day in approximately 7 years that I haven't taken an antidepressant. I am making a concerted effort to see how things go without it.

Without objective feedback or safety net?

Well, you didn't ask for advice and, technically, I'm not giving it. Good luck.

2. ausador, if you read this, I hope you're doing well.

689 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:35:42pm

re: #680 Naso Tang

You mean our elected representatives? I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone votes for any of them, the current president included.

690 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:36:06pm

Plus, sit thru the end credits, they give a sneak peek of "The Avengers"

691 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:36:10pm

re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just occurred to me who the killer (not typing his name, not learning how to spell it) reminds me of...

Caution... your going to say, "Holy shit!"

In 1999 I was on temporary duty near Vilseck, with an Israeli friend. We were driving to Munich, she to catch up with a tour of Dachau, me to twist white roses through the university gate. We stopped at a stube exactly like that one, with a party like that one. Nobody sang.

692 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:36:19pm

re: #630 Killgore Trout

That reminds me of sorority functions, back in the day. My husband and I have found each other's natural level in the slob out department.

693 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:36:46pm

re: #680 Naso Tang

Oh, and in case anyone hasn't noticed. The children are still squabbling over debt. Hide your assets.

Come on, people. There are so many bigger things going on in the world. Stop playing petty American politics, make a deal, and let's get on with catching the bigger fish.

694 jamesfirecat  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:37:02pm

re: #689 Ojoe

You mean our elected representatives? I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone votes for any of them, the current president included.

Because somedays you just have to get up and cast a vote against the possibilities of President Palin...

695 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:38:29pm

re: #680 Naso Tang

Oh, and in case anyone hasn't noticed. The children are still squabbling over debt. Hide your assets.

I always have to some extent...just the pirate in me...as for the debt, who cares?

696 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:39:54pm

re: #685 albusteve

my kids made me take them to see Titanic...really awful movie...the last movie I saw in a theater was LOTR

I haven't been in a theater since Fahrenheit 9-11. I wont be going back.

697 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:40:25pm

re: #694 jamesfirecat

Because somedays you just have to get up and cast a vote against the possibilities of President Palin...

if Palin runs and wins, it's god's will...who am I to interfere?....my interest has limits

698 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:40:50pm

re: #685 albusteve

my kids made me take them to see Titanic...really awful movie...the last movie I saw in a theater was LOTR

I took my mom to see Titanic in Napa..One of those nights where it was like nothing is going on..Mom..Let's go see a movie...OK
Great movie

699 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:41:02pm

re: #691 Decatur Deb

Isn't the resemblance chilling? The kid singing, not York.

700 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:42:01pm

God rest Amy Winehouse.
Night, lizards.

701 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:42:18pm

re: #696 Killgore Trout

I haven't been in a theater since Fahrenheit 9-11. I wont be going back.

I always had to be coerced...but my kids are adults now so I think my support of Hollywood garbage has ended with a whimper

702 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:42:27pm

re: #694 jamesfirecat

Any Palin presidential talk is nonsense.

703 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:43:06pm

re: #657 _RememberTonyC

Maybe you change your screen name to "positiv"

Good luck!

Actually, the screen name refers to a strip of chemical-coated cellulose acetate. I used to get a lot of joy from exposing those strips to light and then dipping them in 19th century chemistry under mad scientist circumstances, deeply inspired by German expressionism.

You don't care, nor should you.

704 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:43:35pm

re: #702 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Any Palin presidential talk is nonsense.

Perry is effectively the front-runner. Big diff.

705 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:43:56pm

re: #694 jamesfirecat

The way things are going with those clowns in DC, I think there's a chance she will win; she has the outsider position quite down.

706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:44:10pm

re: #685 albusteve
The disaster portion of "Titanic" was glorious.

The movie was "teh suck".

707 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:44:21pm

re: #701 albusteve

I always had to be coerced...but my kids are adults now so I think my support of Hollywood garbage has ended with a whimper

I got an 8 and 9 year old. I've got to pick with battles to stand fast on and which to fall back on.

708 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:44:40pm

re: #703 negativ

Actually, the screen name refers to a strip of chemical-coated cellulose acetate. I used to get a lot of joy from exposing those strips to light and then dipping them in 19th century chemistry under mad scientist circumstances, deeply inspired by German expressionism.

You don't care, nor should you.

Nosferatu?

709 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:45:39pm

BBL or maybe tomorrow.

710 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:46:58pm

re: #706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The disaster portion of "Titanic" was glorious.

The movie was "teh suck".

"Ma'am, you have in your hands an item which could single-handedly secure the financial future of your entire family, including their grandchildren."

"Oops."

DIE IN A FIRE, YOU HATEFUL OLD NAG!

I didn't care for it.

711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:47:46pm

re: #703 negativ

You don't care, nor should you.

One of the joys of the internet. Who really gives a shit?

heh

712 albusteve  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:48:05pm

re: #707 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I got an 8 and 9 year old. I've got to pick with battles to stand fast on and which to fall back on.

I just cannot sit and stare....you can't burn a fatty in the back row, so I figure they don't want my business....I watch some tv but not a lot, til football season

713 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:50:08pm

re: #703 negativ

Actually, the screen name refers to a strip of chemical-coated cellulose acetate. I used to get a lot of joy from exposing those strips to light and then dipping them in 19th century chemistry under mad scientist circumstances, deeply inspired by German expressionism.

You don't care, nor should you.

I had a darkroom too :)

714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:50:22pm

re: #704 Decatur Deb

You see "The Onion" piece on Perry?

Holy cow! Hysterical!

715 avanti  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:50:41pm

Wish I could shift a 4 speed like this Studebaker guy.

716 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:51:55pm

re: #615 kirkspencer

mea culpa. Been dealing with some very, umm, staunch members of the right. Honorable, but completely wedded to the idea that liberals are at best woefully confused about how things really are.

(Honorable. I mean that. I'd trust them with my daughter's life, much less mine.)

Heh, well from my pov I would not trust people like that any further than I could throw 'em, but that's only because they feel that way about me. All I'm saying is, I would expect a lot more of this behavior from them. Clinging to that false sense of superiority is all they have.

717 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:52:46pm

re: #688 jvic

Without objective feedback or safety net?


That's right. "Objective feedback" is usually anything but objective. I'm quite accustomed to operating without a "safety net". Look, it's not as if I'm Charlie Manson experimenting with a few years out of jail.

718 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:56:44pm

So any new news on that nasty race-butthurt cultural conservative in Norway?

719 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 7:58:59pm

re: #696 Killgore Trout

I haven't been in a theater since Fahrenheit 9-11. I wont be going back.

Last movie I saw in a theater was "Avatar." Sucky plot, great eye candy.

720 Digital Display  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:01:17pm

re: #719 Alouette

Last movie I saw in a theater was "Avatar." Sucky plot, great eye candy.

Agreed...Pretty stupid movie

721 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:02:28pm

re: #718 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

So any new news on that nasty race-butthurt cultural conservative in Norway?

No, but it's the wee hours of the morning in Norway right now. We won't hear more for a bit.

722 jvic  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:02:58pm

re: #717 negativ

That's right. "Objective feedback" is usually anything but objective. I'm quite accustomed to operating without a "safety net". Look, it's not as if I'm Charlie Manson experimenting with a few years out of jail.

Okay, "objective" was a poor word choice. Better might be "trusted feedback" or leaving out the feedback phrase altogether.

I truly did not mean to give advice; I meant to...articulate an option. It is your life and your decision, and I wish you the best.

723 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:06:29pm

Anyway, speaking as a Whig, outside the 2 party dichotomy, I think Palin might very well be the next president, unless Obama declines to run for term 2, and the Democrats run someone else, which I also think is a real possibility.

724 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:07:12pm

Bachelor frog
[Link: t3.gstatic.com...]
namaste,y'all

725 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:07:25pm

re: #719 Alouette

The movie "The Illusionist" is fabulous, go see it on DVD.

726 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:08:14pm

re: #723 Ojoe

Anyway, speaking as a Whig, outside the 2 party dichotomy, I think Palin might very well be the next president, unless Obama declines to run for term 2, and the Democrats run someone else, which I also think is a real possibility.

Uh lol, no to all.

728 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:08:59pm

re: #726 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well that's what I think from the sidelines & no dog in the fight.

729 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:09:32pm

re: #725 Ojoe

The movie "The Illusionist" is fabulous, go see it on DVD.

That is the one with Edward Norton and Jessica Biehl? I saw it a while ago. I just received the Blu-Ray of "True Grit" from Netflix, haven't watched it yet.

730 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:10:07pm

re: #723 Ojoe

Anyway, speaking as a Whig, outside the 2 party dichotomy, I think Palin might very well be the next president, unless Obama declines to run for term 2, and the Democrats run someone else, which I also think is a real possibility.

No offense, Ojoe, but if that speculation was any further out of left field it would be in the bleachers.

731 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:10:26pm

I like how stalkerblog is calling for Charles to apologize to Pamela Geller, and the Anti-Jihad movement by quoting a passage from the madman's manifesto demanding Charles to do the same thing.


This somehow proves that Charles is on this guy's side.

732 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:10:47pm

re: #728 Ojoe

Well that's what I think from the sidelines & no dog in the fight.

Are you visiting from a distant planet?

733 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:11:13pm

re: #723 Ojoe

Anyway, speaking as a Whig, outside the 2 party dichotomy, I think Palin might very well be the next president, unless Obama declines to run for term 2, and the Democrats run someone else, which I also think is a real possibility.

I now feel a little more confident about my decision to go off my meds. Thanks, Ojoe!

734 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:11:28pm

re: #731 SpaceJesus

I like how stalkerblog is calling for Charles to apologize to Pamela Geller, and the Anti-Jihad movement by quoting a passage from the madman's manifesto demanding Charles to do the same thing.

This somehow proves that Charles is on this guy's side.

Apologize for what? Not be a crazy psychohag?

735 lawhawk  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:11:48pm

re: #719 Alouette

Seen a couple of movies this past week. Saw Potter in 3d. Fitting end - and the 3d was quite impressive. The main complaint is that there was no chemistry between Potter and Ginny, but that was always a problem with the books.

Today - saw Capt. America. I really don't know what the fuss was about with the claims that this was somehow bowdlerizing America out of the movie; it's a pretty pro-US movie and it's faithful to the origin story (or at least some of them). It also makes a good lead-in for the Avengers next year. Well cast and the movie was a good popcorn flick.

736 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:12:42pm

re: #734 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

For connecting them to the actions of this anti-jihadist madman in Norway

737 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:14:01pm

Yeah, Bunk X, you are an idiot.

738 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:15:26pm

re: #736 SpaceJesus

For connecting them to the actions of this anti-jihadist madman in Norway

Oh, you mean drawing direct contextual links based on the evidence at hand.

THAT BASTARD!
/

739 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:15:34pm

G'night Amy.

G'night knuckleheads!

740 lawhawk  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:15:42pm

re: #731 SpaceJesus

Seriously? Where are all those guys' apologies for being in the same sphere of influence with the SIOE/SIOA and the murdering bastard's apparently worldview on immigrants, Muslims and Islam in general.

Charles has distanced himself as vociferously as possible, and it's not like Charles can stop someone else from linking to him. So those who are demanding he apologize can go stick it where the sun don't shine.

741 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:16:20pm

re: #734 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Apologize for what? Not be a crazy psychohag?

Because they are deflecting and projecting. They don't want to admit they shared ideological ground with a murderous lunatic, so they are projecting the guilt onto Charles. It's just more sickness and delusion from a group who've proven themselves masters of both.

[waves to the Stalkers]

742 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:16:47pm

re: #729 Alouette

That is the one with Edward Norton and Jessica Biehl? I saw it a while ago. I just received the Blu-Ray of "True Grit" from Netflix, haven't watched it yet.

I liked "True Grit". I liked the new one better than I liked the old one (which I watched before I went to see the new one).

743 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:17:01pm

re: #736 SpaceJesus

For connecting them to the actions of this anti-jihadist madman in Norway

Except Charles didn't do that, the evidence did. It's all there in the manifesto.

744 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:17:09pm

re: #740 lawhawk

Seriously? Where are all those guys' apologies for being in the same sphere of influence with the SIOE/SIOA and the murdering bastard's apparently worldview on immigrants, Muslims and Islam in general.

Charles has distanced himself as vociferously as possible, and it's not like Charles can stop someone else from linking to him. So those who are demanding he apologize can go stick it where the sun don't shine.

No, they can't stick it there, because their heads are already in that place.

745 jvic  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:17:16pm

re: #728 Ojoe

Well that's what I think from the sidelines & no dog in the fight.

Okay, I'll play (scenarios, not predictions):

1. The economy recovers just enough for Obama to be reelected.

2. Cuomo defeats Rubio in 2016.

746 lawhawk  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:17:39pm

re: #720 HoosierHoops

Sure that it wasn't the Smurfs? /

747 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:18:03pm

re: #743 thedopefishlives

Except Charles didn't do that, the evidence did. It's all there in the manifesto.

Like that'll stop Dorkus and his Blog of the Damned.

748 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:18:46pm

re: #747 Dark_Falcon

Like that'll stop Dorkus and his Blog of the Damned.

Oh, I know. I'm just saying, there's nothing to apologize for; Charles knows this, and deep down, I think the vast unhinged know it, too. They just won't ever admit it because God forbid they be WRONG about something.

749 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:19:16pm

re: #740 lawhawk


Let me show you. I only quote them because it's kind of hilarious how he puts his "argument" together.

Bunk makes the following "article" at stalkerblog by first quoting the gunman's manifesto:

"The time has now come for Mr. Johnson to apologise in public to the numerous people he has smeared since the fall of 2007, starting with the ones I have mentioned above. It’s not their credibility that’s on the line here. It’s his. If he continues to undermine those confronting Islamic infiltration, it will become increasingly difficult for LGF to present itself as an anti-Jihad website at all. At some point, the rapidly shrinking number of people in the northern hemisphere who haven’t been banned from the site yet will be forced to ask themselves whether the website and its owner have simply switched teams and joined the Dark Side." -Norwegian killer

He then adds his own commentary to this quote:

"What is posted above are the thoughts and words of a madman, edited only for their relevance to Charles Johnson’s Little Green Footballs.

Did Johnson influence Anders Behring Breivik? Assuming that the 'Manifesto' is legitimate, the answer is YES, WITHOUT A DOUBT."

Charles Johnson owes public apologies to Fjordman, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and others."

-Bunk

750 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:19:56pm

Questions over far-right link in Norwegian attacks

the far right was becoming very professional at producing online propaganda of an anti-Semitic and xenophobic nature and was increasingly active in online social networking.

"Although the overall threat from right-wing extremism appears to be on the wane and the numbers of right-wing extremist criminal offences are relatively low, the professionalism in their propaganda and organization shows that right-wing extremist groups have the will to enlarge and spread their ideology and still pose a threat in EU member states," it said.

If the unrest in the Arab world, especially in North Africa, leads to a major influx of immigrants into Europe, "right-wing extremism and terrorism might gain a new lease of life by articulating more widespread public apprehension about immigration from Muslim countries into Europe," it added.

751 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:21:16pm

"The thoughts and words of a madman, whose exact demands I will echo against Charles as well." -Bunk

752 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:22:54pm

re: #749 SpaceJesus

753 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:23:11pm

re: #749 SpaceJesus

That is the strangest and most illogical bit of "logic" I've ever seen.

754 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:23:31pm

re: #751 SpaceJesus

"The thoughts and words of a madman, whose exact demands I will echo against Charles as well." -Bunk

By implication, wouldn't that make Bunk a madman, or at least that he thinks and speaks like one?

755 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:23:32pm

re: #740 lawhawk

Seriously? Where are all those guys' apologies for being in the same sphere of influence with the SIOE/SIOA and the murdering bastard's apparently worldview on immigrants, Muslims and Islam in general.

Charles has distanced himself as vociferously as possible, and it's not like Charles can stop someone else from linking to him. So those who are demanding he apologize can go stick it where the sun don't shine.

Of course. We are talking about a special breed with the stalkers. These guys were banned for advocating the same bigoted crap that this Norwegian killer held so dear. They aren't really hip to things like honesty, or logic.

756 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:24:26pm

re: #748 thedopefishlives

Oh, I know. I'm just saying, there's nothing to apologize for; Charles knows this, and deep down, I think the vast unhinged know it, too. They just won't ever admit it because God forbid they be WRONG about something.

To borrow from Orwell: They aren't entirely lying. More likely, what they are writing what they think happened in the sight of God, so they are justified in editing accordingly. For them to admit fault would mean them being pushed aside by the left and thus the nation would be left exposed to the depredations of Islam and thence falling into Sharia. They think keeping their side free of taint is the world's last best hope for deliverance from Islam.

757 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:24:52pm

re: #754 thedopefishlives

By implication, wouldn't that make Bunk a madman, or at least that he thinks and speaks like one?

That's why it's funny.

758 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:25:05pm

This is like blaming Jodie Foster for John Hinckley's assassination attempt on Regan.

759 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:25:29pm

re: #710 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Ma'am, you have in your hands an item which could single-handedly secure the financial future of your entire family, including their grandchildren."

"Oops."

DIE IN A FIRE, YOU HATEFUL OLD NAG!

I didn't care for it.

Yep. Tossing priceless jewelry into the ocean for sentimental reasons rather than either bequeathing it to your children or, barring that, feeding about 1000 homeless people for 10 years is an act of selfishness that pretty much makes you a scumbag, imo.

Now if you will excuse me, i'm going to go burn some food in front of starving children because it makes me feel better.

760 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:26:09pm

Rodan, you are also idiot. This killer in Norway is your ideological twin.

761 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:27:15pm

re: #758 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This is like blaming Jodie Foster for John Hinckley's assassination attempt on Regan.

It's worse, since Foster didn't even know who Hinckley was before the attempt. By contrast, Charles clearly rejected this lunacy in unambiguous terms and has spend years warning of the dangers it poses.

762 Randall Gross  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:27:19pm

Every single slide and fact in that guy's video I've already seen in other form and other words, and sometimes the same ones on the Eurfascist axis blogs (Jihadwatch, Atlas, GOV, Brussels journal, etc. etc.) The agitprop the child murdering terrorist justified his actions by was created by those hate bloggers. They created this monster, spoon feeding it bit by bit.

763 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:27:55pm

re: #758 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This is like blaming Jodie Foster for John Hinckley's assassination attempt on Regan.

Except Hinckley was trying to impress Foster, and asshole shooter guy apparently hated Charles for "smearing" Ms. Bombay Saphire and her legion of skin jobs.

764 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:29:55pm

re: #760 SpaceJesus

Rodan, you are also idiot. This killer in Norway is your ideological twin.

Be careful SJ, Dorkus has portals he can use to reach you up in Space. And then you'll have to face his Staff of Enduring Butthurt.

The above is a riff on the D&D/LGF crossover character "Dorkus" I created to mock Rodan AKA Daedalus.

765 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:30:18pm

re: #761 Dark_Falcon

re: #763 goddamnedfrank

True and true.

766 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:31:17pm

Guys, really, just ignore the idiots. You can't help that they obsess over this blog. That's beyond your control.

If you don't look at what they have to say, it can't effect you. They are neither influential nor interesting, imo.

Just my .02. Let them rot in obscurity.

767 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:33:52pm

re: #723 Ojoe

Anyway, speaking as a Whig, outside the 2 party dichotomy, I think Palin might very well be the next president, unless Obama declines to run for term 2, and the Democrats run someone else, which I also think is a real possibility.

I think you are way off base on all of the above.

768 jvic  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:37:15pm

re: #428 Fozzie Bear

They have mechanisms capable of effecting a life imprisonment, but they don't do it all in one sentence. I believe the maximum sentence at trial is 21 years, but it can be reviewed upon completion of the 21 years, and at that point the gov't can opt to tack on an extra 5 years. Every subsequent 5 years gets another review, and each time they can opt to detain the prisoner another 5 years.

What about outside contact? Biervik's prison writings will be prized if he's allowed to disseminate them. He'll enter prison heroically, like Hitler did.

769 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:37:20pm

re: #766 Fozzie Bear

Guys, really, just ignore the idiots. You can't help that they obsess over this blog. That's beyond your control.

If you don't look at what they have to say, it can't effect you. They are neither influential nor interesting, imo.

Just my .02. Let them rot in obscurity.

Sorry, but when they pull shit like this I can't let them get away with.

770 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:39:29pm

Hey all, finally back online.

Any new developments.

Anyone comment on the difference between his "uniform" pictures and the "casual" one that was first posted? He doesn't look like the same person.

Any idea of past relationships?

771 SpaceJesus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:42:40pm

re: #769 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, I'd say a little foray or two isn't bad at this point. The whole anti-jihad movement is being ridiculous and needs to be called out. Don't give em too much attention though, they know they are wrong.

772 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:44:30pm

re: #733 negativ

I now feel a little more confident about my decision to go off my meds. Thanks, Ojoe!

The world is an interesting place, isn't it?

LOL

773 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:45:15pm

re: #732 Decatur Deb

Are you visiting from a distant planet?

Yes, actually. I came to Earth because your planet has coffee.

/

774 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:46:48pm

re: #745 jvic

Cuomo would be OK.

775 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:46:52pm

What's with these "studip" photos of him --looking all preppy with his hair down and lips parted? Was he also a model?

776 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:47:07pm

re: #773 Ojoe

Yes, actually. I came to Earth because your planet has coffee.

/

Wise choice.

777 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:47:34pm

re: #766 Fozzie Bear

They are rotting in obscurity, they just don't know it!

778 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:48:00pm

re: #762 Thanos

Every single slide and fact in that guy's video I've already seen in other form and other words, and sometimes the same ones on the Eurfascist axis blogs (Jihadwatch, Atlas, GOV, Brussels journal, etc. etc.) The agitprop the child murdering terrorist justified his actions by was created by those hate bloggers. They created this monster, spoon feeding it bit by bit.

I was thinking the same thing. It could happily fit on every anti-jihad blog out there.

The one thing its lacking is mention of Israel. But I don't see that as any kind of pro-Israel stand. There's nothing pro OR con. It's very specifically about Europe. They're really white supremacists, but different than we see it in the states.

779 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:48:01pm

re: #776 ggt

No other known planet has the stuff.

?

780 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:48:34pm

re: #775 ggt

What's with these "studip" photos of him --looking all preppy with his hair down and lips parted? Was he also a model?

He thinks all the girls are hot for him, although I don't doubt the ones with the nazi beauty standard are.

781 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:49:51pm

re: #775 ggt

What's with these "studip" photos of him --looking all preppy with his hair down and lips parted? Was he also a model?

Glamor shots? He probably got them done in order to post them online and get dates. Probably failed. The only date he got was Fjordman.

//

782 Mocking Jay  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:50:14pm

This is really sad:

Five Dead in Shooting at Birthday Party at Texas Roller Rink

A police spokesman says a gunman has opened fire at a North Texas roller rink during a birthday party, fatally shooting at least five people and wounding three others.
Grand Prairie police spokesman John Brimmer tells KXAS-TV in Dallas that the shooting happened just after 7 p.m. at Forum Roller World in Grand Prairie when an argument apparently got out of hand and somebody pulled a weapon.
Brimmer says there was a private birthday party at the rink. He says the gunman was one of the attendees. He says the gunman was shot but wasn't sure if it was self-inflicted.
The condition of the other three shooting victims wasn't immediately known.


783 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:51:16pm

re: #730 Dark_Falcon

No offense, Ojoe, but if that speculation was any further out of left field it would be in the bleachers.

True, but conventional speculations don't seem to work these days.

I think.

Plus, they are not as fun.

784 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:51:52pm

re: #780 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He thinks all the girls are hot for him, although I don't doubt the ones with the nazi beauty standard are.

Is just me, or is it an American thing ---Those pictures make me think he isn't trying to attract women.

I think he can only truly love himself, but what he thinks he wants is another thing. . . .

785 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:52:34pm

re: #762 Thanos

Every single slide and fact in that guy's video I've already seen in other form and other words, and sometimes the same ones on the Eurfascist axis blogs (Jihadwatch, Atlas, GOV, Brussels journal, etc. etc.) The agitprop the child murdering terrorist justified his actions by was created by those hate bloggers. They created this monster, spoon feeding it bit by bit.

True.

Words find their actors.

Ask Samuel Becket & his king.

786 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:53:53pm

re: #783 Ojoe

True, but conventional speculations don't seem to work these days.

I think.

Plus, they are not as fun.

The GOP will nominate Solomon Grundy based on his "born on a Monday" platform, will give him pants.

787 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:54:23pm

re: #784 ggt

Is just me, or is it an American thing ---Those pictures make me think he isn't trying to attract women.

I think he can only truly love himself, but what he thinks he wants is another thing. . . .

My guess would be an American thing. I bet he used wear his Speedos™ everytime he went to the beach. D'oh!

788 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:56:59pm

Sorry, I've missed a lot to tonite . .

So he can only serve 21 years in prison for a "terrorist incident'?

He isn't going to be tried for 90+ counts of murder?

789 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:59:44pm

re: #788 ggt

Sorry, I've missed a lot to tonite . .

So he can only serve 21 years in prison for a "terrorist incident'?

He isn't going to be tried for 90+ counts of murder?

Not sure how Norway's legal system will treat it.

790 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:59:50pm

re: #788 ggt

Sorry, I've missed a lot to tonite . .

So he can only serve 21 years in prison for a "terrorist incident'?

He isn't going to be tried for 90+ counts of murder?

WTF? I went off and searched. That better not be true. Damn it all to hell that's nucking futz. 21 piddly years?

791 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:59:54pm

re: #764 Dark_Falcon

Be careful SJ, Dorkus has portals he can use to reach you up in Space. And then you'll have to face his Staff of Enduring Butthurt.

The above is a riff on the D&D/LGF crossover character "Dorkus" I created to mock Rodan AKA Daedalus.

My name for him is "Dead Louse"

792 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 8:59:54pm

re: #788 ggt

In an earlier time his head would end up on a pike.

But 90 times even 6 months would probably confine him for life.

793 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:00:39pm

re: #778 marjoriemoon

I was thinking the same thing. It could happily fit on every anti-jihad blog out there.

The one thing its lacking is mention of Israel. But I don't see that as any kind of pro-Israel stand. There's nothing pro OR con. It's very specifically about Europe. They're really white supremacists, but different than we see it in the states.

He is the same kind of white supremacists as other Third Position bigots..Virginia Abernethy, american3p.org (American Third Position Party), Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, Council of Conservative Citizens, and them.

ABB claims to be an Israel "supporter", and references the fjordman essay, "Why Europeans Should Support Israel". He (via Fjordman, I guess) thinks Israel is supposed to be a "European Protectorate", after the conservative revolution 9_9.

794 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:02:10pm

re: #787 Gus 802

My guess would be an American thing. I bet he used wear his Speedos™ everytime he went to the beach. D'oh!

It's so cold in Norway you need a wet suit to go swimming.

/Yes, I know that's not what you meant.

795 bratwurst  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:02:11pm

re: #786 goddamnedfrank

The GOP will nominate Solomon Grundy based on his "born on a Monday" platform, will give him pants.

Good call...his Christian credentials are beyond reproach!

796 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:03:12pm

re: #790 Gus 802

WTF? I went off and searched. That better not be true. Damn it all to hell that's nucking futz. 21 piddly years?

I thought I read somewhere upthread that the max he can get is 21 years with 5 year re-ups.

I am majorly confused.

797 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:03:49pm

re: #784 ggt

Is just me, or is it an American thing ---Those pictures make me think he isn't trying to attract women.

I think he can only truly love himself, but what he thinks he wants is another thing. . . .

This quote is hilarious

798 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:04:04pm

re: #796 ggt

I thought I read somewhere upthread that the max he can get is 21 years with 5 year re-ups.

I am majorly confused.

I guess even the justice system in Denmark doesn't know how they are going to try him yet. I shouldn't be speculating.

799 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:04:07pm

Life imprisonment in Norway

By law it is possible to receive life imprisonment in Norway, but there are no examples of such after the latest correctional law passed in 2002. There are basically two types of maximum penalty laws:

The maximum determinate penalty is 21 years imprisonment, but only a small percentage of prisoners serve more than 14 years. Prisoners will typically get unsupervised parole for weekends etc. after serving ⅓ of their sentence (a maximum of 7 years) and can receive early release after serving ⅔ of their sentence (a maximum of 14 years).

The maximum indeterminate penalty, called "containment" (Norwegian: forvaring), is also set at 21 years imprisonment, and the prisoner is required to serve at least 10 years before becoming eligible for parole. "Containment" is used when the prisoner is deemed a danger to society and there is a great chance of committing violent crimes in the future. If the prisoner is still considered dangerous after serving the original sentence, the prisoner can receive up to five years additional containment.

If the additional time is served, and the offender is still considered dangerous, a prisoner can continue to receive up to five years additional containment, and this, in theory, could result in actual life imprisonment. However, the offender can be paroled or released at any time if it is determined that the offender is no longer a danger to society.

800 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:04:34pm

Fuck.

801 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:05:02pm

re: #797 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

This quote is hilarious

I know, I read that earlier. My first thought was --"trying play it straight, huh?"

Who describes what they are wearing in such detail besides fiction writers?

802 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:06:02pm

re: #800 Gus 802

Fuck.

They could exile him to some remote island off the northern shores of Norway. ?????

803 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:06:18pm

bbl

804 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:06:47pm

re: #802 ggt

They could exile him to some remote island off the northern shores of Norway. ???

Send him to Texas. He can face trial there.

805 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:08:40pm

re: #799 Gus 802

Norway is a bit prematurely over-civilized.

806 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:08:57pm

re: #791 Alouette

My name for him is "Dead Louse"

Did you hear that??/!!!11 That evvilll loosard Alouette is threatening Rodan's life!!!11 And Chuck is too hypocritical to ban her!!!111 No wonder he's lying about the shooter!!!111

807 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:09:30pm

re: #799 Gus 802

Life imprisonment in Norway

Got to figure someone out there who lost a kid might be thinking 21 years might be a good exchange if they can get to the guy responsible.

808 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:11:30pm

No wonder Aunt Milty isn't showing his miserable face here, today.

Manifesto, page 353:

Fjordman

According to Heather MacDonald[1], the feminist takeover of Harvard is imminent. The university is about to name as its new president radical feminist Drew Gilpin Faust, following Lawrence Summers’s all-too-brief reign. Summers’s recklessly honest speculations about women in science strengthened the feminist hold on faculty hiring and promotions.

rotfl

809 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:12:36pm

re: #799 Gus 802

Thing is, his little manifesto has him basically as a threat to society.

In all likelihood, he will never be free again. His manifesto seals it.

810 Gus  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:13:26pm

re: #809 ProLifeLiberal

Thing is, his little manifesto has him basically as a threat to society.

In all likelihood, he will never be free again. His manifesto seals it.

I'll keep an open mind.

811 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:14:19pm

re: #805 Ojoe

Norway is a bit prematurely over-civilized.

Quite Concur.

812 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:15:38pm

re: #811 Dark_Falcon

In this world, it is dangerous to lose touch with your inner barbarian.

Good night all.

813 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:16:35pm

re: #793 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He is the same kind of white supremacists as other Third Position bigots..Virginia Abernethy, american3p.org (American Third Position Party), Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, Council of Conservative Citizens, and them.

ABB claims to be an Israel "supporter", and references the fjordman essay, "Why Europeans Should Support Israel". He (via Fjordman, I guess) thinks Israel is supposed to be a "European Protectorate", after the conservative revolution 9_9.

The Jewish Journal had a great article on this and how very un-Jewish and un-Israel Breivik really is along with the twisted ideology of Eurofascisism.

[Link: www.jewishjournal.com...]

Remember, too, that there has been a dramatic rise in anti-Semitism in Europe over the last 10-15 years.

814 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:16:40pm

re: #812 Ojoe

Norway used to be some of the best.

It's like they are compensating or the past.

815 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:18:53pm

re: #491 Sergey Romanov

A severely burned category A or B traitor will in reality become a living symbol of what awaits individuals guilty of trying to sell their own people into Islamic slavery. They will act as a deterrent and contribute to spread fear in the hearts of the rest of the traitors and will thus cause more ideological damage than that of a dead body. He or she will become a living testament to what will happen to any and all category A and B traitors and everyone will learn that high treason is not without risks.

More, p. 963

Create an overview of all category A and B traitors in your city region or country
Research the name and address of every single individual. Buy the necessary equipment and prepare to produce and print letters.

Example message:
--------------------------------------------------------
José Manuel Durão Barroso

In reference to a letter sent to your political party and/or your office a few years ago;

Paste in Fjordmans letter: A European Declaration of Independence or anything similar

We regret to inform you that you have been flagged by the Portuguese and pan-European cultural conservative Military and Criminal Tribunal as a “Category A traitor” for your involvement in the crimes against all free Europeans. You have deliberately used your influence in a way which makes you indirectly or directly guilty of the listed charges:

List definition of crimes; 1-8 (found in this document)

We, the European military order and tribunal; Commilitones Christi Templique Solomonici – PCCTS, the Knights Templar, on behalf of the free indigenous peoples of Europe, condemn you to death for your involvement in the listed crimes against the peoples of Europe.

Your sentence will be carried out by targeted execution (by a Justiciar Knight or another cultural conservative/nationalist) during Phase 1, Phase 2 or Phase 3 of the ongoing European Civil War; If not today, then tomorrow, in ten years, or as soon as we are in a position to do so. Note that multiculturalism is a self-defeating ideology when combined with Islamisation. In a few decades, when Islam has reached 50% in certain countries, the people will cry out loud for cultural conservative leadership to save them. As soon as we seize power in Western Europe, or in your specific country, you can be assured that we will arrest and execute every single category A and B traitor. We know who you are, where you
and your family live and we are aware of your exact involvement in the listed crimes.

However, the ongoing European civil war is now in Phase 1. In this regard we are willing to grant all categories; A, B and C traitor’s amnesty for the specified crimes provided you fulfil certain conditions. You must immediately and without hesitation use your influence to carry
out a minimum of duties in order to rectify the damage you have caused through your involvement in the listed crimes.

The only way to be granted amnesty is thus to build a verifiable “track record” by publicly renouncing your past political stance.

Uh-huh.

And this differs from the Islamic Republic of Iran, how?

816 Olsonist  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:21:32pm

re: #805 Ojoe

Norway is a bit prematurely over-civilized.

Norway is better than Breivik.

817 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:21:42pm

re: #815 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

More, p. 963

Uh-huh.

And this differs from the Islamic Republic of Iran, how?

Regional ethnic type.

818 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:24:10pm

re: #805 Ojoe

Norway is a bit prematurely over-civilized.

I don't know what to call it but "naive". The country has never had to deal with something like this, so the laws haven't been drafted to cover it.

Kinda like the person in the US who says, I don't need to worry about guns or self-defense. I live in a safe neighborhood, I don't drive thru bad neighborhoods and don't live my life in such a way to invite violence. . . ..

I won't begin to describe the conversations I've had.

819 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:24:24pm

re: #813 marjoriemoon

The Jewish Journal had a great article on this and how very un-Jewish and un-Israel Breivik really is along with the twisted ideology of Eurofascisism.

[Link: www.jewishjournal.com...]

Remember, too, that there has been a dramatic rise in anti-Semitism in Europe over the last 10-15 years.

Yeah, and the ABBs are the nice ones, ugh.

Interesting comments under that story, too.

820 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:24:46pm

re: #817 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Regional ethnic type.

And different facial hair. /

821 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:25:08pm

re: #808 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

No wonder Aunt Milty isn't showing his miserable face here, today.

Manifesto, page 353:

rotfl

Heather MacDonald--yeah, that's a journalist I trust . . .

/gah

822 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:26:20pm

re: #814 ProLifeLiberal

Norway used to be some of the best.

It's like they are compensating or the past.

Yep, I think I have some of the genes to prove it. Rather diluted tho . . .

823 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:28:19pm

re: #819 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, and the ABBs are the nice ones, ugh.

Interesting comments under that story, too.

Whoa. Didn't notice that. Pretty terrifying actually.

824 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:32:33pm

re: #822 ggt

Oh, they show every so often.

Remember three months ago when went off on a hunting expedition for Qaddafi, which end with his son dead, along with three grandchildren?

It's buried deep, but if one pushes hard enough, it does come out.

re: #815 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Actually, it seems worse than that. I can't think of anything resembling it except for Nazi Germany.

825 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:33:17pm

re: #822 ggt

Oops, misunderstood what you said.

Same thing here.

826 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:33:51pm

re: #824 ProLifeLiberal

Oh, they show every so often.

Remember three months ago when went off on a hunting expedition for Qaddafi, which end with his son dead, along with three grandchildren?

It's buried deep, but if one pushes hard enough, it does come out.

re: #815 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Actually, it seems worse than that. I can't think of anything resembling it except for Nazi Germany.

No, I mean my Nordic genes are diluted --a few hundred years may be a 1000. Give or take . . .

827 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:34:07pm

re: #824 ProLifeLiberal

Oh, they show every so often.

Remember three months ago when went off on a hunting expedition for Qaddafi, which end with his son dead, along with three grandchildren?

It's buried deep, but if one pushes hard enough, it does come out.

re: #815 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Actually, it seems worse than that. I can't think of anything resembling it except for Nazi Germany.

Featuring ABB as the next Vidkum Quisling. Hopefully, that line doeresn't count as a Godwin's Law infraction.

828 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:34:21pm

re: #823 marjoriemoon

Whoa. Didn't notice that. Pretty terrifying actually.

Yeah, lots of general anger, confusion and a heap of anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, anti-Judaism crud. It doesn't help my misanthropist streak, at all.

829 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:36:05pm

re: #805 Ojoe

Norway is a bit prematurely over-civilized.

Norway has one of the lowest intentional homicide rates in the world

The US? lol. Not even fucking close

830 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:36:41pm

re: #815 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

More, p. 963

Uh-huh.

And this differs from the Islamic Republic of Iran, how?

No Crusaders.

831 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:37:35pm

re: #827 Dark_Falcon

TO DF:

Considering what this guy's manifesto said, Godwin's Law does not exist. He is a new form of Nazi comparing him to Quisling is not a problem.

re: #826 ggt

Great-Grandmother came off the boat from Norway in the early 1920's.

Still a fair amount here.

832 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:37:43pm

Goodnight, all.

833 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:37:47pm

re: #828 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, lots of general anger, confusion and a heap of anti-Israel, anti-Jewish, anti-Judaism crud. It doesn't help my misanthropist streak, at all.

Yeesh. The author makes good points, unless its read through a veil of hate, I suppose.

Anyhoo, I'm out. Sleep well, friends.

834 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:39:12pm

re: #723 Ojoe

Anyway, speaking as a Whig, outside the 2 party dichotomy, I think Palin might very well be the next president, unless Obama declines to run for term 2, and the Democrats run someone else, which I also think is a real possibility.

lol

835 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:40:06pm

re: #829 WindUpBird

The number of dead from Friday is 3 times the number of murders in all of last year.

Hoo boy, Norway is gonna have rough time.

But they proved themselves to be more mature than the rest of Europe. England had a mosque attack before the culprit was found, Norway didn't.

If there is a nation that can come through this without much scarring, it's Norway.

836 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:41:53pm

re: #824 ProLifeLiberal

Oh, they show every so often.

Remember three months ago when went off on a hunting expedition for Qaddafi, which end with his son dead, along with three grandchildren?

It's buried deep, but if one pushes hard enough, it does come out.

re: #815 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Actually, it seems worse than that. I can't think of anything resembling it except for Nazi Germany.

It reminds me of stories told by people like Shahla Talebi and Minoo Moallem, who survived and escaped the revolution. Forced conversions, killing fields, the MO is very similar.

837 avanti  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:42:16pm

Pam's fans showing compassion for those killed. (From her comments)

"Besides, the "little island paradise" is not a place for 'children', but a commie indoctrination camp:

Strange ‘paradise’. A socialist summer camp i(ndoctrination centre) for ‘community organizers’. Spending time at a hate Israel, Marxist labour camp doesn’t sound like ’paradise’ to me. Am I the only one that thinks a Government (Party indoctrination) summer camp for kids is creepy?

Please note that the media blasted the blood splattered bodies from the Oslo explosions (white Norwegians) all around the world the same day, front page news.No holding back.

However, you don't get any close-us whatsoever from the Island.

But take a look at the video, just to see what kind of people these 'children' are."

838 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:45:46pm

re: #837 avanti

If she doesn't condemn these pigs, I say it is safe to assume she thinks the same.

839 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:48:11pm

Condemn them, she agrees with them.

840 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:48:23pm

Yep, police are going to be asking a lot of questions --scouring his computer.

841 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:48:24pm

re: #837 avanti

Pam's fans showing compassion for those killed. (From her comments)

"Besides, the "little island paradise" is not a place for 'children', but a commie indoctrination camp:

Strange ‘paradise’. A socialist summer camp i(ndoctrination centre) for ‘community organizers’. Spending time at a hate Israel, Marxist labour camp doesn’t sound like ’paradise’ to me. Am I the only one that thinks a Government (Party indoctrination) summer camp for kids is creepy?

Please note that the media blasted the blood splattered bodies from the Oslo explosions (white Norwegians) all around the world the same day, front page news.No holding back.

However, you don't get any close-us whatsoever from the Island.

But take a look at the video, just to see what kind of people these 'children' are."

He shot a bunch of kids.

Period.

End of line.

Full fucking stop.

THERE ARE NO FUCKING EXCUSES.

842 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:50:43pm

re: #839 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Then attack her on this angle.

She has the ability to get mainstream attention. Destroy it by saying she approves of the deaths of children.

843 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:51:25pm

re: #831 ProLifeLiberal

TO DF:

Considering what this guy's manifesto said, Godwin's Law does not exist. He is a new form of Nazi comparing him to Quisling is not a problem.

re: #826 ggt

Great-Grandmother came off the boat from Norway in the early 1920's.

Still a fair amount here.

I was told a week or so ago I was "french" looking. As the family myth goes: "We came over with the Normans" to Wales. That would have been 1000 years ago. Norse + French = Norman

I had to laugh.

My father did look more Nordic, but with dark hair. I definity don't look Norman, or Welsh or anything that is supposed to be in me. Just the normal American.

844 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:55:40pm

re: #843 ggt

I am the ultimate Heinz 57 American.

I've got so much of Europe in me, I've been on both sides of most European Wars in the past 1000 years.

845 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:58:37pm

re: #844 ProLifeLiberal

I am the ultimate Heinz 57 American.

I've got so much of Europe in me, I've been on both sides of most European Wars in the past 1000 years.

I've got German and Italian in my side of the family, and my wife is Japanese. We have to fight down the urge to invade our neighbors almost weekly.

/

846 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:59:47pm

re: #844 ProLifeLiberal

I am the ultimate Heinz 57 American.

I've got so much of Europe in me, I've been on both sides of most European Wars in the past 1000 years.

As far as I know, I'm thoroughly of Northern European Stock.

I burn really, really easily . . . .but the dark hair and dark eyes get people all confused . . . .

847 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 10:01:41pm

re: #845 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've got German and Italian in my side of the family, and my wife is Japanese. We have to fight down the urge to invade our neighbors almost weekly.

/

Does the Italian side call the German side barbarians?

848 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 10:03:20pm

I have good news here. A friend of my got engaged today!

And as a great screw-you this terrorist and the ones like him in the US, it's an Iranian-American marrying a European-American.

849 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 10:04:34pm

re: #847 ggt

Does the Italian side call the German side barbarians?

The Italian side is Yankees and the German side is Texans.

850 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 10:05:27pm

re: #845 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Depending on how you invade, they might like it :P

//I had to do it.

851 Kragar  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 10:08:28pm

re: #850 ProLifeLiberal

Depending on how you invade, they might like it :P

//I had to do it.

I blame the neighbors for starting it. My wife starts first thing in the morning, but leaves them a voicemail after fact.
///

Ah, WWII humor.

852 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 10:35:34pm

re: #842 ProLifeLiberal

Then attack her on this angle.

She has the ability to get mainstream attention. Destroy it by saying she approves of the deaths of children.

Well, she approves of the deaths of "socialist" children, anyway. Her blather should be its own attack. It really is a classic genocidal rhetoric. Leave it to cultural conservatives...

853 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Jul 23, 2011 10:58:07pm

re: #852 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Bring this slime into the open. She isn't there right now.


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