John McCain should really just accept the fact that the Republican Party has bought tickets on the Crazy Train; today he’s castigating the Tea Party for ‘foolish’ demands in the debt ceiling debate, but what’s the point? They’re not listening to people like McCain any more.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:10:41am |
John McCain: Broken clock or blind squirrel?
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:12:59am |
The GOP senate vote isn't going to be a matter of numbers. Sen R. Paul and a couple co-loons can filibuster it past the drop-dead date.
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engineer cat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:13:11am |
"what's that granpa? you're against food for iran? you think we're making mulish korans? lalala i can't hear you..."
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Charleston Chew Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:13:16am |
After sucking up to them to get reelected he ain't got a leg to stand on. Is that a mixed metaphor?
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Charleston Chew Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:14:55am |
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jamesfirecat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:17:40am |
Were was this John McCain during the 2008 elections?
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:18:03am |
They didn't listen to McCain back in 2008. That's how we ended up with Caribou Barbie.
Why does he think they'll listen to him now?
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:18:21am |
re: #7 jamesfirecat
Were was this John McCain during the 2008 elections?
Same place the '08 Romney is now: Tied up and in the closet.
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:18:57am |
Did he clear that with Sarah first? Such bravery, John...now go take a nap.
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allegro Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:19:08am |
I do give him a lot of credit for standing up and pointing out the crazy. Where are the other Republicans?
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:20:06am |
re: #11 allegro
I do give him a lot of credit for standing up and pointing out the crazy. Where are the other Republicans?
Being the crazy.
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:20:21am |
re: #11 allegro
I do give him a lot of credit for standing up and pointing out the crazy. Where are the other Republicans?
All pointing at him and saying, "I'll bet he retires after this term."
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:20:34am |
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kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:20:42am |
re: #2 Decatur Deb
The GOP senate vote isn't going to be a matter of numbers. Sen R. Paul and a couple co-loons can filibuster it past the drop-dead date.
I started to object, but then I realized how close we are. There's the requirement for a number of hours of debate before invoking cloture. There are the hours between cloture and vote. There are the various amendment procedures that require debate and vote. By the numbers, if the bill is brought to the Senate today and they make any changes the earliest the House will see it is Monday.
It can't be faster unless there is unanimous consent, and that's where Paul and deMint and such can apply the wrecking ball. "No, I do not give unanimous consent. And I have this list of 100 amendments I wish considered (introduced one at a time)..."
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:23:00am |
OT: The Teen Suicide Epidemic in Michele Bachmann's District
That's just sad.
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:23:02am |
re: #2 Decatur Deb
The GOP senate vote isn't going to be a matter of numbers. Sen R. Paul and a couple co-loons can filibuster it past the drop-dead date.
I have envisioned Mitch McConnell sneaking up behind Rand Paul with a garrote in his hands on Monday night and announcing to Senator Reid, "The secret hold on this vote has been lifted."
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mr.fusion Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:23:19am |
This would really mean so much more had he not spent the entire Presidential campaign and then his Senate campaign pandering to these "fools."
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:24:37am |
re: #17 makeitstop
OT: The Teen Suicide Epidemic in Michele Bachmann's District
That's just sad.
What does she care? Most of them are just gay barbarians that need to be civilized. =P
///
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laZardo Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:26:25am |
OT
Applied for Horizon Air ticket counter, now working on Macy's. Having an educational history in two countries is either making things confusing or making me "overqualified."
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jamesfirecat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:27:24am |
re: #18 darthstar
I have envisioned Mitch McConnell sneaking up behind Rand Paul with a garrote in his hands on Monday night and announcing to Senator Reid, "The secret hold on this vote has been lifted."
And then they broke out the whiffle canes.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:29:14am |
re: #17 makeitstop
OT: The Teen Suicide Epidemic in Michele Bachmann's District
That's just sad.
This story (and probably many more like it) goes beyond any sort of gay/straight discussion: it is about bullying, it is about a social atmosphere that allows or even encourages children to pick on those who are different and thus vulnerable.
But as soon as anything with teh gey raises its head, it is full rejection mode from the part of parents, staff and administrators, they refuse to see beyond teh tey aspect of it and rant and rave about people trying to force something on them or into their orifices against their will (or at least against their expressed will and choice of belief systems).
And it has contributed to some tragic events.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:29:48am |
For all the valid criticisms of McCain, I for one (maybe the only one) welcome each and every sane voice we can get right now. Even if it's just a brief moment in some cases. This is just too serious for snark to come first. IMO
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abbyadams Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:30:46am |
Wow, there's a breathtaking lack of introspection here. Hey, John...trivia. Who's the Tea Party darling? Give you three guesses, and the irst two guesses don't count.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:36:16am |
John, maybe if you hadn't chosen Caribou Barbie as your running mate, the Tea Party wouldn't have gotten the traction it has today.
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Obdicut Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:36:42am |
Romney however, managed only a weasel-worded abdication of any real position.
Seriously, the guy wants to be president and he can't actually make a commitment that means anything. He says so much nothing. Obama has some broken promises on his list, but he's got far more promises fulfilled. Romney hasn't even let us know what the fuck he'd do.
He does understand he's running for President, right? It's a position that requires quite a lot of communication of your agenda with the people.
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gehazi Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:36:47am |
re: #24 Rightwingconspirator
For all the valid criticisms of McCain, I for one (maybe the only one) welcome each and every sane voice we can get right now. Even if it's just a brief moment in some cases. This is just too serious for snark to come first. IMO
This. At this late hour I don't care what normally-crazy mouth is spouting sanity as long as they get it done.
Besides which, criticism of McCain's craven pandering in 2008 and 2010 really just boils down to: he's a career politician. At least he sometimes stands on principle, which is more than most.
Of course, it's also worth noting that the only thing he's openly supporting is the Boehner plan. Chew on that for a minute: the "rational" option now appears to be a plan that gives Republicans 99% of what they want.
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jamesfirecat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:38:38am |
re: #28 Obdicut
Romney however, managed only a weasel-worded abdication of any real position.
Seriously, the guy wants to be president and he can't actually make a commitment that means anything. He says so much nothing. Obama has some broken promises on his list, but he's got far more promises fulfilled. Romney hasn't even let us know what the fuck he'd do.
He does understand he's running for President, right? It's a position that requires quite a lot of communication of your agenda with the people.
Abortions for all!
(BOOOO)
Abortions for none.
(BOOOO!)
Very well, Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others!
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:39:25am |
The Tea Party never listen to anyone unless it's something they already agree with.
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BongCrodny Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:39:57am |
re: #1 makeitstop
John McCain: Broken clock or blind squirrel?
Can't it be both?
John McCain is a broken clock in name only. We will not rest until everybody is a broken clock.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:41:03am |
re: #31 Spocomptonite
The Tea Party never listen to anyone unless it's something they already agree with.
Or you say Jesus told you about it while standing in front of an American flag.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:41:08am |
re: #27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
John, maybe if you hadn't chosen Caribou Barbie as your running mate, the Tea Party wouldn't have gotten the traction it has today.
He did not choose Sarah, she was foisted on him as a quid-pro-quo for the support of the nascent Tea Party. They had threatened to break with the GOP over his social agenda and run their own candidate, which would have scuppered him entirely.
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bluecheese Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:42:25am |
It's hard for me to take McCain seriously.
He just says whatever he thinks will get him noticed.
Every time.
Who even knows what the man thinks is right anymore.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:42:32am |
re: #34 ralphieboy
He did not choose Sarah, she was foisted on him as a quid-pro-quo for the support of the nascent Tea Party. They had threatened to break with the GOP over his social agenda and run their own candidate, which would have scuppered him entirely.
I don't think those were teabaggers, though. I think that was the mainstream Republican so-cons.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:42:44am |
re: #34 ralphieboy
He did not choose Sarah, she was foisted on him as a quid-pro-quo for the support of the nascent Tea Party. They had threatened to break with the GOP over his social agenda and run their own candidate, which would have scuppered him entirely.
Yeah, thats turned out really well. He would have been better off telling them to fuck off and picking Romney as his VP.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:42:46am |
Thing is, between McCain today and Cantor the other day telling the Tea Party "Young Guns" to drop their impossible demands and accept Boehner's plan, the narrative that the GOP's trying to weave that all the refusal to pass anything is on Obama's end is falling apart. The GOP doesn't seem to realize that they are not, as they seem to belive, the heroes of this story. They're just another flavor of dipshit politician.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:43:27am |
O/T
Small biz guy beats the Evil Empire in court
Wins right to produce storm trooper helmets for Star Wars fans. Wow, beat all the Hollywood heavy hitters.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:43:55am |
re: #34 ralphieboy
He did not choose Sarah, she was foisted on him as a quid-pro-quo for the support of the nascent Tea Party. They had threatened to break with the GOP over his social agenda and run their own candidate, which would have scuppered him entirely.
Thing is, I'd have had more respect for McCain had he told them where to stick their demands and gone with a far more moderate VP. As it is, he's not only a sell-out, he's a cheap one too.
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gehazi Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:43:57am |
Anyone else find themselves involuntarily blurting out obscenities whenever your mind drifts to debt-limit-land?
Good, me neither. Fuck.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:44:19am |
re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah, thats turned out really well. He would have been better off telling them to fuck off and picking Romney as his VP.
His first choice was Joe Lieberman, but that would have really alienated the right-wing base.
He was in a no-win position, I think he made the least worst of the choices presented to him.
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:44:34am |
re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Or you say Jesus told you about it while standing in front of an American flag.
And not Middle Eastern Jesus, either. It was white natural-born American Jesus.
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simoom Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:45:04am |
Good for Gov. Christie:
Sharia Law has nothing to do with this at all ... this Sharia Law business is crap. It's just crazy, and I'm tired of dealing with the crazies. It's just unnecessary to be accusing this guy of things just because of his religious background. I'm happy that he's willing to serve after all this baloney.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:45:08am |
Britain recognizes Libyan opposition, unfreezes millions
Britain has officially recognized Libya’s rebel opposition as the country’s sole government authority and expelled all of the remaining Libyan diplomats loyal to Moammar Gaddafi, Foreign Secretary William Hague said Wednesday.The decision reflects the Transitional National Council’s “increasing legitimacy, competence and success in reaching out to Libyans across the country,” Hague said.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:46:15am |
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:47:09am |
re: #43 Spocomptonite
And not Middle Eastern Jesus, either. It was white natural-born American Jesus.
And they'll talk in plain English, just the way Jesus did when he dictated the Bible to the Apostles.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:47:34am |
re: #41 gehazi
Anyone else find themselves involuntarily blurting out obscenities whenever your mind drifts to debt-limit-land?
Good, me neither. Fuck.
I've begun to learn to stop worrying and love the default. Because that's where this is all heading. I've given up on the hope that we're going to beat the deadline, that there will be some magical surprise ending that satisfies everybody. Was just reading last night that the market's not only made it clear that a short-term deal that puts us back to hashing this out in 6 months will not avoid a credit rating decline, nor will going with the GOP's "plan" for the Treasury to prioritize debt payment to avoid default.
So my advice would be to start drinking heavily.
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engineer cat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:48:47am |
re: #46 brownbagj
Broken squirrel braille clock.
even a broken squirrel can find his nuts using both hands twice a day while pissing on a flat rock with the pope?
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laZardo Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:49:17am |
re: #48 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
So my advice would be to start
drinking heavily.buying gold.
ftfy
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:49:56am |
McCain lost any punch when he lurched HARD right during the election.
He, at least to me, lost mucho respect.
He is not a maverick anymore than the man on the moon. He is what he needs to be when he needs/wants to get attention.
Truly a shame.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:50:25am |
These people are making my head hurt.
This is the same type of thinking as
ABB: Thinking his massacre will start an anti-Muslim uprising,
and
Charles Manson: Believing 'Helter Skelter' would usher in a race war that would somehow make him King Of The World.
Dear Tea Partiers: Take your 'chaos' and ram it down your throats. We're all stocked up on Crazy, thanks.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:50:32am |
re: #49 engineer dog
even a broken squirrel can find his nuts using both hands twice a day while pissing on a flat rock with the pope?
If the instructions are written on the sole.
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laZardo Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:51:20am |
re: #52 makeitstop
These people are making my head hurt.
This is the same type of thinking as
ABB: Thinking his massacre will start an anti-Muslim uprising,
and
Charles Manson: Believing 'Helter Skelter' would usher in a race war that would somehow make him King Of The World.
Dear Tea Partiers: Take your 'chaos' and ram it down your throats. We're all stocked up on Crazy, thanks.
The worst bit about it is, it's pretty much guaranteed to get them (or at least their preferred candidate) re-elected.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:52:59am |
re: #52 makeitstop
You underestimate anarchy. I mean, humans ALWAYS react well during chaos, right? RIGHT?!
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jamesfirecat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:53:47am |
re: #56 brownbagj
You underestimate anarchy. I mean, humans ALWAYS react well during chaos, right? RIGHT?!
Why so serious?
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:54:09am |
re: #56 brownbagj
You underestimate anarchy. I mean, humans ALWAYS react well during chaos, right? RIGHT?!
Insanity's like gravity. All it takes is a little push.
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kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:54:11am |
re: #28 Obdicut
Romney however, managed only a weasel-worded abdication of any real position.
Seriously, the guy wants to be president and he can't actually make a commitment that means anything. He says so much nothing. Obama has some broken promises on his list, but he's got far more promises fulfilled. Romney hasn't even let us know what the fuck he'd do.
He does understand he's running for President, right? It's a position that requires quite a lot of communication of your agenda with the people.
At this point the only thing Romney's got going for him is that he's "the sane one". Even the non-teabag contingent doesn't really like him; he's Kerry without even the military service.
I don't think he can get more than 35% of the delegates, meaning even if he got every one of the superdelegates he wouldn't cross the finish line.
That takes it down to two possibilities. Either the anti-Romney rallies behind one candidate or the Republican convention is Thunderdome. At this point the only rallying candidate I see on the horizon is Perry, and he's got to survive his late entry and the inevitable public scrutiny from a media that's bored with everyone else.
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Obdicut Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:55:36am |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
My largest client hasn't finalized next year's schedule of work yet. They're waiting. I think they're waiting to see how this comes out.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:56:42am |
re: #61 Obdicut
Lots of companies doing this exact same thing. Economy will not come back until sanity is restored.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:57:19am |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
Dow -168
Thanks, GOP
Damn that Obama for not giving into the GOP's demands!
///^nth
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:57:39am |
re: #66 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Damn that Obama for not giving into the GOP's demands!
///^nth
"LOOK WHAT YOU MADE US DO!"
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:58:07am |
re: #61 Obdicut
My largest client hasn't finalized next year's schedule of work yet. They're waiting. I think they're waiting to see how this comes out.
I'm holding off on big spending too. I want to finalize arrangements to have some work done on the house but I'm waiting to seee how this goes. If I really thought we were going to default I'd bail out of the stock market all together. I think/hope some sort of deal will be reached.
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simoom Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:58:24am |
re: #52 makeitstop
These people are making my head hurt.
It'd be amusing if it wasn't so scary (how much they've internalized becoming their caricature of Saul Alinsky / Cloward-Piven or whatever, people almost no one on the left had ever heard of before the Tea Party became obsessed with dusting them off and forming conspiracy theories with their writings).
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:58:34am |
re: #48 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I've begun to learn to stop worrying and love the default. Because that's where this is all heading. I've given up on the hope that we're going to beat the deadline, that there will be some magical surprise ending that satisfies everybody. Was just reading last night that the market's not only made it clear that a short-term deal that puts us back to hashing this out in 6 months will not avoid a credit rating decline, nor will going with the GOP's "plan" for the Treasury to prioritize debt payment to avoid default.
So my advice would be to start drinking heavily.
reminds me of an alternate title for a movie...
"How I learned to Love the Bomb."
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:58:53am |
re: #52 makeitstop
Boehner isn't just an incompetent and powerless leader, he's unfit for office.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:58:55am |
I'm pissed enough it's gone this far.. This should have been settled long ago.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:59:47am |
It is amazing to me - a country like ours with as much as we have, the talented mix of cultures and peoples we have can't figure out a way to work forward together.
Boggles the mind.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 11:59:54am |
re: #70 Ericus58
reminds me of an alternate title for a movie...
"How I learned to Love the Bomb."
Yeah, that's where I was going with that. Hilarious film.
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Alexzander Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:00:29pm |
re: #70 Ericus58
reminds me of an alternate title for a movie...
"How I learned to Love the Bomb."
That was the reference.
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Alexzander Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:01:38pm |
re: #69 simoom
It'd be amusing if it wasn't so scary (how much they've internalized becoming their caricature of Saul Alinsky / Cloward-Piven or whatever, people almost no one on the left had ever heard of before the Tea Party became obsessed with dusting them off and forming conspiracy theories with their writings).
excellent point.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:01:43pm |
re: #72 Killgore Trout
I'm pissed enough it's gone this far.. This should have been settled long ago.
And in years past, it would have. But the GOP's desperation to get back into power drove them first to make impossible demands, only to find out that a growing faction in their party refuses to back away from those demands. The leadership strapped on a bomb vest, not realizing that it had a remote trigger in the event that they got cold feet.
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leftynyc Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:02:50pm |
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Obdicut Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:04:17pm |
re: #78 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
I honestly think some of the right-wing whackos really do understand what a default would mean, and like it. They want the US's credit rating to sink, so that it's harder for us to borrow money. I even feel like they want us to be less wealthy, or at least for wealth to be concentrated more in an elite, because wealthier societies are more liberal and tolerant.
More and more, the Arab states seem to be what some on the nutty right wing see as a model.
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:04:37pm |
John McCain having a moment of clarity. By the time the rank and file GOP realizes the dangers of appealing to the Tea Party it will be too late. If it isn't already. While the Tea Party may work on a congressional level getting House members elected it won't work on a national level. Their candidates failed in the Senate race of 2010 so it barely works on a state level -- save for perhaps Rand Paul. On a national level they are too far to the right to govern where being in the center (as Obama) is required.
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simoom Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:04:54pm |
re: #72 Killgore Trout
I'm pissed enough it's gone this far.. This should have been settled long ago.
The whole crisis should never have even happened. S&P now seems likely to downgrade just to keep their credibility after they got involved in the political back-and-forth, and the other two ratings agencies will then be forced to follow suit. It's a totally unnecessary, manufactured mess that was always the downside to the GOP's power-play / gamble.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:05:22pm |
re: #80 Obdicut
Maybe they don't understand that this is debt we already have. Not net new spending. I have no idea. But defaulting makes zero sense.
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leftynyc Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:07:28pm |
re: #83 brownbagj
Maybe they don't understand that this is debt we already have. Not net new spending. I have no idea. But defaulting makes zero sense.
I just read on another blog that Andrea Mitchell had to point that out to a CURRENT teabagger congresscritter.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:08:27pm |
re: #52 makeitstop
These people are making my head hurt.
This is the same type of thinking as
ABB: Thinking his massacre will start an anti-Muslim uprising,
and
Charles Manson: Believing 'Helter Skelter' would usher in a race war that would somehow make him King Of The World.
Dear Tea Partiers: Take your 'chaos' and ram it down your throats. We're all stocked up on Crazy, thanks.
In my opinion The Tea Party, and thus the GOP who they have by the balls, are revolutionaries similar to the Jacobins and the Bolsheviks. A revolutionary's goal is to destroy the system they exist in and replace it with one more to their liking. Something where people who don't share their goals suffer for their dissent.
It looks to me like their going to succeed. I suspect like many Jacobins and Bolsheviks they are going to be unpleasantly surprised by what they wrought.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:08:49pm |
re: #80 Obdicut
I honestly think some of the right-wing whackos really do understand what a default would mean, and like it. They want the US's credit rating to sink, so that it's harder for us to borrow money. I even feel like they want us to be less wealthy, or at least for wealth to be concentrated more in an elite, because wealthier societies are more liberal and tolerant.
More and more, the Arab states seem to be what some on the nutty right wing see as a model.
Well, the Saudis do have great family values, old-fashioned gender roles, and just tons of piety.
///words cannot express
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Bulworth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:09:21pm |
I guess McCain is back to saying whatever he wants, since he got re-elected last year.
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:09:35pm |
re: #82 simoom
The whole crisis should never have even happened.
It's purely the consequence of letting the far right nutters take over the GOP.
Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times when he was in office. Dubya did it 7 times with many of the same GOP members of Congress. It was never an issue.
Black guy gets elected to the White House and NOW it's an issue. WTF.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:09:40pm |
re: #80 Obdicut
There are others who see an inevitable collapse coming and have decided that it is best to hit bottom now so we can start working on recovering from it.
That line of thinking has a certain appeal to it, save for the fact that these people are the least likely to be able to lead us into recovery.
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kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:10:40pm |
re: #88 Lidane
It's purely the consequence of letting the far right nutters take over the GOP.
Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times when he was in office. Dubya did it 7 times with many of the same GOP members of Congress. It was never an issue.
Black guy gets elected to the White House and NOW it's an issue. WTF.
In fairness there has been a small contingent that's been unhappy with it even while Reagan was in the house.
We used to call them the black helicopter crowd.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:11:36pm |
re: #81 Gus 802
John McCain having a moment of clarity. By the time the rank and file GOP realizes the dangers of appealing to the Tea Party it will be too late. If it isn't already. While the Tea Party may work on a congressional level getting House members elected it won't work on a national level. Their candidates failed in the Senate race of 2010 so it barely works on a state level -- save for perhaps Rand Paul. On a national level they are too far to the right to govern where being in the center (as Obama) is required.
The GOP leadership has already realized it, but only because the millstone around their necks has gotten heavy enough to offset the initial euphoric rush of last November. Congress is now virtually paralyzed into uselessness, as getting any major bill through to Obama's desk means appeasing a faction that refuses to acknowledge the word "compromise."
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:11:58pm |
re: #90 kirkspencer
We used to call them the black helicopter crowd.
Now they're the Tea Party. And now we're going to get screwed financially by these lunatics.
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celticdragon Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:12:44pm |
re: #11 allegro
I do give him a lot of credit for standing up and pointing out the crazy. Where are the other Republicans?
Isn't he adorable? He thinks the far right loons who hated his guts when he was nominated in 2008 will want to listen to him now!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:13:48pm |
re: #88 Lidane
It's purely the consequence of letting the far right nutters take over the GOP.
Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times when he was in office. Dubya did it 7 times with many of the same GOP members of Congress. It was never an issue.
Black guy gets elected to the White House and NOW it's an issue. WTF.
These guys are determined that we be in a crisis.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:13:59pm |
re: #88 Lidane
It's purely the consequence of letting the far right nutters take over the GOP.
Reagan raised the debt ceiling 18 times when he was in office. Dubya did it 7 times with many of the same GOP members of Congress. It was never an issue.
Black guy gets elected to the White House and NOW it's an issue. WTF.
It's only a real issue because the Ryan Plan went nowhere. Seriously, look at any gripe the GOP has had with Democrat proposals for deficit-reduction in the past couple months, then look at the Ryan Plan. They had no problem with adding $6 trillion to the debt over the next decade, but only if they got it on their terms.
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laZardo Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:14:09pm |
re: #92 Lidane
Now they're the Tea Party. And now we're going to get screwed financially by these lunatics.
Not only that, there'll be enough people that think what'll happen is actually a good thing that they'll most likely be re-elected.
Because conservatism is anti-logic.
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:15:11pm |
rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch
Far-right activists say daycare, public schools & gay rights are part of a "death culture" that will destroy society: bit.ly/q56kDD
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mr.fusion Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:15:42pm |
re: #52 makeitstop
These people are making my head hurt.
How delusional do they have to be to actually think the American public would pass their idiotic "Cut Cup and Balance" plan after the chaos created by their own intransigence?
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:16:09pm |
re: #97 Gus 802
rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch
Far-right activists say daycare, public schools & gay rights are part of a "death culture" that will destroy society: bit.ly/q56kDD
How is day care part of a "death culture"?
WTF @ these people.
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:16:12pm |
re: #80 Obdicut
More and more, the Arab states seem to be what some on the nutty right wing see as a model.
I smell Objectivism, actually. Job creators = producers...and everybody else = parasites.
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simoom Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:17:16pm |
Anyone know if FDIC bank insurance still functions during a technical default?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:17:37pm |
re: #98 mr.fusion
How delusional do they have to be to actually think the American public would pass their idiotic "Cut Cup and Balance" plan after the chaos created by their own intransigence?
They're banking on voters buying their defense that this was necessary to prevent worse, and that it was someone else's fault, preferably Barack Obama's.
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jaunte Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:18:05pm |
re: #52 makeitstop
Boehner: ‘A Lot’ Of Republicans Want To Force Default, Create ‘Enough Chaos’ To Pass Balanced Budget Amendment
"Better to reign over Hell than compromise into Heaven."
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mr.fusion Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:18:25pm |
re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist
They're banking on voters buying their defense that this was necessary to prevent worse, and that it was someone else's fault, preferably Barack Obama's.
So you're going with "pretty fucking delusional," huh?
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:19:07pm |
re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist
They're banking on voters buying their defense that this was necessary to prevent worse, and that it was someone else's fault, preferably Barack Obama's.
Yeah, I've heard that more and more in passing days. "Defaulting is a better option than letting Obama keep spending! This way, we put a stop to the spending and get people to start supporting cuts!"
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thecommodore Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:19:21pm |
So says the man responsible for making Gov. Blood Libel a household name.
Well, it's nice to see the old McCain come back out of the closet, but I think it's a bit late now...
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:20:22pm |
re: #102 simoom
Anyone know if FDIC bank insurance still functions during a technical default?
It's a government corporation, it gets its money from the banks that belong to it, not the government. Same with the Post Office. It's independent of government funding.
Also, because of Reagan, the FAA will be shut down but Air Traffic Controllers will still work and be paid. Thank god, too; I booked a flight to Albuquerque two weeks from now.
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engineer cat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:21:13pm |
re: #52 makeitstop
These people are making my head hurt.
from the article:
BOEHNER: Well, first they want more. And my goodness, I want more too. And secondly, a lot of them believe that if we get past August the second and we have enough chaos, we could force the Senate and the White House to accept a balanced budget amendment. I’m not sure that that — I don’t think that that strategy works. Because I think the closer we get to August the second, frankly, the less leverage we have vis a vis our colleagues in the Senate and the White House.
there you have it straight from the boner's mouth
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:21:26pm |
re: #98 mr.fusion
How delusional do they have to be to actually think the American public would pass their idiotic "Cut Cup and Balance" plan after the chaos created by their own intransigence?
I don't think that's the point. They knew it wouldn't pass, that's why they passed it. It's kind of like the Ryan budget, they only proposed it because they knew it was never going to go anywhere. Same with their debt ceiling demands. They just want to propose unreasonable stuff because they don't want any part of making decisions, compromises, or governing.
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:21:53pm |
re: #102 simoom
Anyone know if FDIC bank insurance still functions during a technical default?
Although with what a default will do to our economy and currency, it depends on your definition of "function".
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celticdragon Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:22:47pm |
Andrew Sullivan and Paul Krugman have been exploring the theme that this is the logical continuation of the Civil War, especially with the southern power base of the hard right GOP. If that is true....that this is "The Cold Civil War", then the refusal to compromise with a northern black man becomes quite clear.
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simoom Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:24:02pm |
re: #108 Spocomptonite
Thanks. I'm trying to resist doing anything panicky or rash with my finances :P.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:24:02pm |
re: #112 celticdragon
Andrew Sullivan and Paul Krugman have been exploring the theme that this is the logical continuation of the Civil War, especially with the southern power base of the hard right GOP. If that is true...that this is "The Cold Civil War", then the refusal to compromise with a northern black man becomes quite clear.
Hawaii is 'Northern'?
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aagcobb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:24:03pm |
re: #112 celticdragon
It certainly seems like they automatically reject anything the President is willing to agree to, even if it gives them virtually everything they want.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:24:26pm |
re: #71 darthstar
Because he can't get the crazies that got elected in line?
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:24:53pm |
re: #110 Killgore Trout
I don't think that's the point. They knew it wouldn't pass, that's why they passed it. It's kind of like the Ryan budget, they only proposed it because they knew it was never going to go anywhere. Same with their debt ceiling demands. They just want to propose unreasonable stuff because they don't want any part of making decisions, compromises, or governing.
They pass it because they think that screaming "Well, where's your alternative?!," knowing they'll never like what the Democrats produce and will let it go nowhere in the House, somehow makes them look more like "leaders" to the American people.
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mr.fusion Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:25:05pm |
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:25:06pm |
re: #110 Killgore Trout
They just want to propose unreasonable stuff because they don't want any part of making decisions, compromises, or governing.
"The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, and then they get elected and prove it." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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celticdragon Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:25:16pm |
re: #114 wrenchwench
Hawaii is 'Northern'?
He comes from "The Corrupt Chicago Jim Daley Machine", I am reliably told by teabaggers.
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mr.fusion Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:26:02pm |
re: #117 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
They pass it because they think that screaming "Well, where's your alternative?!," knowing they'll never like what the Democrats produce and will let it go nowhere in the House, somehow makes them look more like "leaders" to the American people.
and sadly enough, it does
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:26:49pm |
Using a power that the Republican party can't comprehend (foresight), I predict this will have the very long-term effect of being the last straw and we'll see the U.S. dollar/bonds lose its standing as the standard for foreign bank holdings. I also predict the Euro will take its place--Europe has had massive financial problems just like us but with a diverse group of countries and people with economic and finance backgrounds in charge instead of populism, they are a lot less likely to do something as stupid as we are.
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jaunte Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:26:55pm |
re: #106 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Yeah, I've heard that more and more in passing days. "Defaulting is a better option than letting Obama keep spending! This way, we put a stop to the spending and get people to start supporting cuts!"
This infuriatingly simpleminded 'take away Obama's blank check' spot has been running a lot over the last two weeks.
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aagcobb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:27:01pm |
re: #122 SteelPH
Kenya, Indonesia, Chicago: what's the difference?
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Obdicut Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:27:59pm |
re: #119 Lidane
I always laugh at that because my town in Connecticut launched an anti-crabgrass initiative that really worked. The laws on the town property used to look terrible, now they're nice, with native ground cover.
And, of course, providing school lunches do make kids taller, and preventing malnourishment and giving good prenatal care helps with intelligence, as well.
It's funny to me that to Rourke the idea of government being able to do those things is presented as a magical fantasy, when the government had already done all of those things when he wrote that.
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celticdragon Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:28:03pm |
re: #122 SteelPH
I thought he was from Kenya.
//
I also heard he was a Nazi, a Marxist and a Mau Mau, and possibly related to Idi Amin.
//
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laZardo Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:28:04pm |
re: #122 SteelPH
I thought he was from Kenya.
//
He's from Ireland. Why do you think it's pronounced O'Bama?
/
//brb lunch
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thecommodore Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:28:10pm |
re: #122 SteelPH
I thought he was from Kenya.
//
Off topic - the new birther meme is that whether he was born in Kenya or not matters little. Because his father wasn't a US citizen, and two US citizen parents is how the Supreme Court has defined "Natural Born Citizen," Obama in an illegal president.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:28:10pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:28:48pm |
And now, to add a bit more insult to injury:
Politico: Reid plan's savings trump Boehner's
In the battle of budget scores, the Senate Democrats’ deficit reduction bill is the clear leader thus far over an alternative by Speaker John Boehner, which had to be pulled back from the floor Tuesday night for retooling.
The Congressional Budget Office released a report Wednesday morning that credits the Senate bill with reducing budget deficits by about $2.2 trillion through 2021, nearly three times the $850 billion credited to the Boehner bill on Tuesday.
Part of the disparity is owed to the fact that the House bill takes a two-step approach to raising the debt ceiling and therefore postpones actions on major entitlement savings until November and December. For this reason, Boehner’s forces would argue the race has just begun, and the scores now are an incomplete picture.
But the bigger issue is sure to be the Senate’s willingness to take advantage of CBO baseline rules and claim large savings from winding down U.S. military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:29:05pm |
re: #114 wrenchwench
Hawaii is 'Northern'?
Born in Hawaii, but elected to office in Illinois. And Hawaii is - in its demographics and politics - closer to the US North than the anywhere in the South
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:29:47pm |
re: #118 mr.fusion
College educated = Northern elite
Unlike all those good ol' boys in Congress with just their high school diplomas...what?
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aagcobb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:30:16pm |
re: #129 thecommodore
Off topic - the new birther meme is that whether he was born in Kenya or not matters little. Because his father wasn't a US citizen, and two US citizen parents is how the Supreme Court has defined "Natural Born Citizen," Obama in an illegal president.
Which is another Birther lie, because the Supreme Court has defined a "natural born citizen" as anyone born in the US, with very limited exceptions.
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:31:16pm |
re: #113 simoom
Thanks. I'm trying to resist doing anything panicky or rash with my finances :P.
Yes, please do. Most banks early in the 08/09 recession didn't fail/get seized by the treasury dept because of the investments they made, but because people panicked and caused bank runs that wiped out the bank. My old bank, WAMU, was struggling but surviving for months, but a bank run took it out in only 4 days. Panics are the scarier than anything else by far to a bank.
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Artist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:31:59pm |
re: #135 aagcobb
Which is another Birther lie, because the Supreme Court has defined a "natural born citizen" as anyone born in the US, with very limited exceptions.
The word "duh" comes to mind. Birtherism can't exist without lies to depend on for the narrative.
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thecommodore Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:32:07pm |
re: #135 aagcobb
Which is another Birther lie, because the Supreme Court has defined a "natural born citizen" as anyone born in the US, with very limited exceptions.
I know, but birthers keep citing Minor v Happersett (sp?) and a few others as the authority on what defines a natural born citizen.
Birthers never fail to amuse me!
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:32:35pm |
re: #129 thecommodore
Off topic - the new birther meme is that whether he was born in Kenya or not matters little. Because his father wasn't a US citizen, and two US citizen parents is how the Supreme Court has defined "Natural Born Citizen," Obama in an illegal president.
And when did this supposedly occur?
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:32:35pm |
Orly Taitz continues to impress...
"Plaintiff is either toying with the Court or displaying her own stupidity. "
[Link: legaltimes.typepad.com...]
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:32:39pm |
re: #135 aagcobb
Which is another Birther lie, because the Supreme Court has defined a "natural born citizen" as anyone born in the US, with very limited exceptions.
What the definition of "natural born idiot"? Do both parents have to be idiots or does that person just have to be born in a Red state?
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:33:12pm |
re: #127 celticdragon
I also heard he was a Nazi, a Marxist and a Mau Mau, and possibly related to Idi Amin.
//
And Malcom X, I hear.
It finally all makes sense:
Idi Amin and Malcolm X used Nazi technology to create their gay love child, then sent him away to be cared for by Marxist atheist Barack Obama Sr, who was secretly a Kikuyu Mau-Mau masquerading as a Luo to get a US visa, romance vulnerable white women, get married, and start getting sweet, sweet welfare. His adult son was then sent to serve in the bastion of Black Muslim power as a community organizer, then representative, and thus acquired his hatred of white people directly from Farrakhan.
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:33:15pm |
re: #140 darthstar
Heh...I see there's other birther news in this thread...good timing.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:33:25pm |
re: #123 Spocomptonite
Eh, I don't think it will be the Euro. That system has its own set of huge problems and solvency.
I saw we go back to pretty rocks and shells.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:33:55pm |
re: #140 darthstar
She's still around?
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:34:07pm |
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:34:09pm |
re: #141 ralphieboy
I know plenty of idiots in blue states.
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:34:37pm |
re: #145 brownbagj
Eh, I don't think it will be the Euro. That system has its own set of huge problems and solvency.
I saw we go back to pretty rocks and shells.
Stone money of Yap. Have they ever had finance industry problems? I didn't think so.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:34:40pm |
re: #143 The Ghost of a Flea
And Malcom X, I hear.
It finally all makes sense:
Idi Amin and Malcolm X used Nazi technology to create their gay love child, then sent him away to be cared for by Marxist atheist Barack Obama Sr, who was secretly a Kikuyu Mau-Mau masquerading as a Luo to get a US visa, romance vulnerable white women, get married, and start getting sweet, sweet welfare. His adult son was then sent to serve in the bastion of Black Muslim power as a community organizer, then representative, and thus acquired his hatred of white people directly from Farrakhan.
This theory will show up verbatim on nutbag blogs in 3..2..1..
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:34:43pm |
re: #139 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And when did this supposedly occur?
The day after Obama got elected.
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simoom Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:34:48pm |
re: #115 aagcobb
That's because one of their legislative priorities is that whatever proposal is adopted, it must to some extent humble the President. So if he has even the smallest bit of buy-in it's a non-starter.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:35:06pm |
re: #143 The Ghost of a Flea
You left out the role of Reverend Wright and his Church of the Zombie Voodoo Zulu Warriors
/
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:36:01pm |
re: #148 brownbagj
I know plenty of idiots in blue states.
Yes, but are they natural born ones, or naturalized idiots? It affects their ability to be able to campaign for the Tea party...
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:36:33pm |
re: #153 ralphieboy
You left out the role of Reverend Wright and his Church of the Zombie Voodoo Zulu Warriors
/
It rolls of the tongue better if its Church of the Zombie Zulu Voodoo Warriors.
/brand focus group
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:37:12pm |
As always, Frank was ahead of his time:
The last election just laid the foundation for the next 500 years of Dark Ages. -- From 1981
If only Zappa had been around to witness the Tea Party.
Also, I'm bummed that HST didn't get to experience their idiocy.
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:37:19pm |
re: #153 ralphieboy
You left out the role of Reverend Wright and his Church of the Zombie Voodoo Zulu Warriors
/
I keep that part behind the paywall. Scotch doesn't pay for itself.
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aagcobb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:37:38pm |
re: #139 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And when did this supposedly occur?
Birthers misinterpret some language out of a 19th century women's voting rights case, Minor v. Hapersett, and ignore or distort the case which thoroughly analyzes the meaning of "natural born", US v. Wong Kim Ark.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:37:54pm |
re: #154 ralphieboy
Ah, a question of purity. I don't know. I was born in Alabama, so I am pure. I don't know if we let mutts in.
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:38:57pm |
Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler has been strangely silent on the tragedy, save for a post on 22/7. Weird. Isn't what happened Misha's wet dream?
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calochortus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:39:10pm |
re: #114 wrenchwench
Hawaii is 'Northern'?
re: #133 ralphieboy
Born in Hawaii, but elected to office in Illinois. And Hawaii is - in its demographics and politics - closer to the US North than the anywhere in the South
Fun fact: Point Arena (north of San Francisco) is one end of the submarine telephone cable between Hawaii and the mainland because it is the shortest route. So, I guess Hawaii is closer to the North than the South...
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:40:20pm |
re: #160 Sergey Romanov
What is the 22nd month?
In America, and we are the only ones that count, we have 12 months and they come before the day when written out.
/ Just in case.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:41:04pm |
re: #159 brownbagj
Ah, a question of purity. I don't know. I was born in Alabama, so I am pure. I don't know if we let mutts in.
//
My dad is from Iowa, which, as we all know, stands for
Idiots Out Wandering Around
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:41:23pm |
re: #163 brownbagj
Yeah, that's annoying as heck when you do that ;)
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:41:25pm |
And by the way, if we default and the whole country goes to hell in anarchy, I plan on feeding my family by whatever means necessary.
Nothing personal.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:42:16pm |
re: #160 Sergey Romanov
Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler has been strangely silent on the tragedy, save for a post on 22/7. Weird. Isn't what happened Misha's wet dream?
I forgot all about that dork. I thought his irrational hate would have thoroughly consumed him by this point.
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lawhawk Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:42:30pm |
re: #140 darthstar
Stupidity and then some. It's sanctionable and it's past time that the court hits her with still more sanctions for wasting the court's limited resources and time trying to sort through this mess of filings.
Where's the CA state bar case against Taitz? If anything, this should be one more thing to add to the case against her continuing to hold a law license.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:44:26pm |
re: #167 makeitstop
I forgot all about that dork. I thought his irrational hate would have thoroughly consumed him by this point.
If 'auto-cannibalism' of that sort worked, there would be no Geller. In fact, there would be a lot more room on the right side of the blog channel.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:44:46pm |
re: #166 brownbagj
And by the way, if we default and the whole country goes to hell in anarchy, I plan on feeding my family by whatever means necessary.
Nothing personal.
I taste rancid. Really.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:45:34pm |
re: #169 wrenchwench
If 'auto-cannibalism' of that sort worked, there would be no Geller. In fact, there would be a lot more room on the right side of the blog channel.
They thrive on the dark energy of hate!!1
OK, OK, that's one vomit-inducing cliche;)
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:46:04pm |
re: #170 EmmmieG
This is why G_d made A1. I can make a bologna sandwich taste like steak with A1 - just pour it on and hope for the best.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:46:43pm |
re: #172 brownbagj
This is why G_d made A1. I can make a bologna sandwich taste like steak with A1 - just pour it on and hope for the best.
I cause allergic reactions.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:46:49pm |
re: #172 brownbagj
Oh, and I plan on starting with stealing non-human sources of food first.
You have a while.
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:47:22pm |
"An Italian MEP has described the ideas of Norway's self-confessed mass killer, Anders Behring Breivik, as "good" and in some cases "excellent".
Mario Borghezio, who belongs to the Northern League party, condemned Mr Breivik's violence, but backed his stance against Islam.
The Northern League is a partner in PM Silvio Berlusconi's government."
[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:47:23pm |
Speaking of John McCain, his contribution to American politics opened her pie hole again:
PALIN: AMERICAN IDEALS ARE ‘FOREIGN TO OUR PRESIDENT’ BECAUSE OF ‘HIS BACKGROUND’
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:47:25pm |
re: #174 brownbagj
Oh, and I plan on starting with stealing non-human sources of food first.
You have a while.
My cats cause allergic reactions too.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:47:46pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:48:16pm |
re: #177 wrenchwench
My cats cause allergic reactions too.
I think pouring A-1 sauce over them counter balances that
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:48:20pm |
re: #166 brownbagj
And by the way, if we default and the whole country goes to hell in anarchy, I plan on feeding my family by whatever means necessary.
Nothing personal.
My BMI is sub-20, so I hope you like bones.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:48:46pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:48:47pm |
re: #178 brownbagj
Starve or hives/rash?
I choose hives/rash.
Sorry.
There is a nice, plump, slower person behind me.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:49:02pm |
re: #175 Ericus58
Only what I would expect from Lega Nord.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:49:07pm |
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:49:31pm |
re: #181 Spocomptonite
Bones are great for stews or for adding flavor to vegetables.
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jaunte Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:49:38pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:49:40pm |
Before we go all Donner Party on each other, may I point out that crops don't ask about debt ceilings before they decide to grow?
You can borrow my grain grinder.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:49:49pm |
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:50:21pm |
re: #183 wrenchwench
Ah, the old "I don't have to be faster than the person chasing me, I just have to be faster than the person with me" defense.
It works, for a while.
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aagcobb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:50:46pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:51:00pm |
re: #185 Sergey Romanov
Only what I would expect from Lega Nord.
Ned May sees them as one of the encouraging developments of 2010.
4. The Lega Nord.The strength of the Northern League in Italy continues to grow, and Berlusconi’s ruling coalition is considerably more dependent on the Lega than it was three years ago.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:51:04pm |
re: #190 sattv4u2
significant other buys you lots of expensive stuff, huh?
And I do the same. It's a reciprocal spoilage thing. :)
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jamesfirecat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:51:05pm |
re: #191 brownbagj
Ah, the old "I don't have to be faster than the person chasing me, I just have to be faster than the person with me" defense.
It works, for a while.
If you and your friend are being chased by a king cheetah you have but one choice, trip your friend.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:51:10pm |
re: #188 jaunte
Al Dente?
I knew his golf playing brother, Jim
[Link: www.jackandjillseregion.org...]
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:51:21pm |
re: #189 EmmmieG
Man cannot live by bread alone.
I hope that means I get to eat red meat. If not, I probably still will.
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:51:39pm |
re: #166 brownbagj
And by the way, if we default and the whole country goes to hell in anarchy, I plan on feeding my family by whatever means necessary.
Nothing personal.
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:51:53pm |
re: #189 EmmmieG
Before we go all Donner Party on each other, may I point out that crops don't ask about debt ceilings before they decide to grow?
You can borrow my grain grinder.
"Donner Party, your table for 40 is ready"
/cuz half of you will be the meal...
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:52:11pm |
re: #191 brownbagj
Ah, the old "I don't have to be faster than the person chasing me, I just have to be faster than the person with me" defense.
It works, for a while.
I have a bicycle, and I'm not afraid to use it.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:52:28pm |
re: #189 EmmmieG
Before we go all Donner Party on each other, may I point out that crops don't ask about debt ceilings before they decide to grow?
You can borrow my grain grinder.
Debt default, meet Climate Change.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:52:52pm |
See, I was talking about feeding my family, and you durn liberals have me eating humans.
EVIL LIBERALS.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:53:11pm |
Misha on ABB's Christianity:
Christian? Mheh. I wouldn’t call him that based on what I read, nor would I call him “non-Christian.” There just aren’t any declarative statements in support of Christianity, nor any quoting of Scripture etc. What I suspect he is is “Christian” in the European sense, meaning “not non-Christian”.
Now, how to define what "is" is...
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sattv4u2 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:53:25pm |
K kiddies
Gotta go fatten up the pooches ,,, you know,,, just in case!
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:53:32pm |
That hack Charles Krauthammer is a stopped clock again:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Appearing on the O’Reilly Factor last night, conservative columnist and Fox contributor Charles Krauthammer said Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) is being “unbelievably irresponsible” by insisting she would never vote to raise the debt ceiling. Host Bill O’Reilly, who has also been critical of Bachmann’s intrasigence on the debt ceiling, seemed to agree.
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:53:38pm |
re: #189 EmmmieG
Before we go all Donner Party on each other, may I point out that crops don't ask about debt ceilings before they decide to grow?
You can borrow my grain grinder.
But none of us bought any of Glenn Beck's apocalypse seed and gold packages!!!!
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:53:50pm |
re: #200 wrenchwench
I have a bicycle, and I'm not afraid to use it.
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:54:04pm |
re: #206 Spocomptonite
I have hundreds of MREs in my bunker...I mean basement.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:54:11pm |
re: #206 Spocomptonite
But none of us bought any of Glenn Beck's apocalypse seed and gold packages!!!
They were overpriced. I have seeds in the garage that cost me $12.50.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:54:38pm |
re: #202 brownbagj
See, I was talking about feeding my family, and you durn liberals have me eating humans.
EVIL LIBERALS.
Well, when you say, "Nothing personal", it's a sign to take it very personally.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:54:42pm |
re: #205 Lidane
That hack Charles Krauthammer is a stopped clock again:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Stopped clock, or blind squirrel?
(I'll be getting tons of mileage out of that question in the coming months, I'm thinking.)
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:54:59pm |
re: #200 wrenchwench
Ok. I am partnering up with you then. Bicycle in the "new world" will be hi tech and will show we were once an advanced society.
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:55:39pm |
re: #203 Sergey Romanov
Misha on ABB's Christianity:
Now, how to define what "is" is...
now that's some serious Triple Lindy action right there... !!
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:56:05pm |
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:56:45pm |
re: #154 ralphieboy
Yes, but are they natural born ones, or naturalized idiots? It affects their ability to be able to campaign for the Tea party...
I like the last sentence in this page from the sidebar Stupid is..
If the constitution says the nation's good credit shall not be questioned, aren't all these constitution worshipers in violation of the constitution if they vote against raising the debt limit?
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:57:52pm |
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brownbagj Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:57:55pm |
When anarchy happens, this will be my song:
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:58:52pm |
Great, I went from being a lizard to being the most dangerous game. Damn you, Boehner!
//
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 12:59:41pm |
re: #176 Lidane
"While her tenure as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, is now well-known, Palin's credentials as a small-business owner are less clear. Judging by recent tax data and a public financial disclosure form required of all federal candidates, her experience appears to be limited to a supporting role with a handful of modest ventures, including Toad's Fisheries, her husband's commercial fishing operation, and a now-defunct carwash..."
And governor of a state where one job in three is with the Federal government and less than 1% of the land is in private hands (the rest being federal, state or Native American land)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:00:43pm |
re: #214 Ericus58
now that's some serious Triple Lindy action right there... !!
That's nuance worthy of some liberal professor! Tsk, tsk, tsk, Misha!
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:01:53pm |
U.S. likely to lose top rating: economists
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
"WASHINGTON/LONDON (Reuters) - The United States will lose its top-notch AAA credit rating from at least one major rating agency, according to a Reuters poll that also found wrangling over the debt ceiling has already damaged the economy.
A small majority of economists -- 30 out of 53 -- surveyed over the past two days said the United States will lose its AAA credit rating from one of the three big ratings agencies -- Standard & Poor's, Moody's or Fitch.
Respondents saw a 20 percent chance of a new recession over the next year, a prospect that some economists say has been compounded by the acrimonious political fight over what is normally a procedural legislative vote on the debt.
..............."
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:02:02pm |
Okay the people of some faith and the atheists have certainly had our interesting discussions. So check this out... Page pending (maybe)
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:02:21pm |
re: #203 Sergey Romanov
Misha on ABB's Christianity:
Now, how to define what "is" is...
I wonder if this debate on ABB will have an unforeseen benefit for Muslims. Namely if this self professed Christian is not really a Christian (and heaven forbid if anyone calls him a Fundamentalist Christian), then self professed Muslim terrorists aren't really Muslims. The Taliban is not Muslim. Hamas is not Muslim, and so on.
All we need is for the Muslims to join the Christians and say so.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:03:01pm |
Small worlds. Someone at Rottie quotes our good friend KayinMaine:
KayInMaine says: July 23, 2011 at 8:18 PM All right wingers worship Adolf Hitler (who use religion to brainwash a nation just like George Bush did!) and want a authoritarian dictatorship. Republicans hate the human race pretty much and like all conservatives they’re selective in who they want around. Teabaggers arent inclusive, rather, they’re exclusive. Seriously, I hate them more than Adolf Hitler!!! In fact, all conservatives are despicable human beings! *SPIT!*
No wonder she is no longer with us...
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:03:06pm |
Huh. After Michael Savage speculating about the Norway massacre having been a leftist conspiracy plot, I did not expect this from him:
Of course, he ends with the Goldwateresque note of there being "good extremism" that isn't murderous and avoids a whole set of questions concerning ideology. Still, pretty unexpected admission from Savage that Breivik was a christian terrorist. See also [Link: www.google.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:03:43pm |
re: #224 Naso Tang
I wonder if this debate on ABB will have an unforeseen benefit for Muslims. Namely if this self professed Christian is not really a Christian (and heaven forbid if anyone calls him a Fundamentalist Christian), then self professed Muslim terrorists aren't really Muslims. The Taliban is not Muslim. Hamas is not Muslim, and so on.
All we need is for the Muslims to join the Christians and say so.
It only works for Christians, I'm afraid.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:04:02pm |
re: #223 Rightwingconspirator
Okay the people of some faith and the atheists have certainly had our interesting discussions. So check this out... Page pending (maybe)
But how does he stack up against Allah, Buddha, Vishu, Cthulu and the FSM?
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:05:13pm |
re: #229 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fuck Savage.
I agree. But I still think it's important to point out that in this he finally decided to deviate from most of his right-wing brethren.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:05:30pm |
re: #227 Sergey Romanov
It only works for Christians, I'm afraid.
C'mon, you know the talking point by now: Jesus forbids violence, Muhammad requires it.
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:06:54pm |
re: #225 Sergey Romanov
Small worlds. Someone at Rottie quotes our good friend KayinMaine:
"In fact, all conservatives are despicable human beings!"
No wonder she is no longer with us...
OMG! Despicable me?!?!
/by the way, have you seen my new movie out on blu-ray?!
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Spocomptonite Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:07:03pm |
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:07:18pm |
re: #223 Rightwingconspirator
Okay the people of some faith and the atheists have certainly had our interesting discussions. So check this out... Page pending (maybe)
"Why all last week I prayed to God and he didn't answer one prayer. So I'm going to have to vote "disapprove".
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:08:03pm |
re: #231 ralphieboy
From Rottie comments:
Sorry, DJ, but I have to call BULLSHIT on that statement. There is a big difference. Extremists who call themselves “Christian” are condemned by Christians. The Phelps family, for example. The splodeydopes are hailed as heros by many, if not most Muslims. Check some polls. I believe that in one poll, 65% of muslims approved of suicide bombing in the name of jihad. Yes, some few Muslims condem the hirabists, but they don’t seem to be very loud in their condemnation.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:09:14pm |
re: #232 Ericus58
OMG! Despicable me?!?!
/by the way, have you seen my new movie out on blu-ray?!
Irony is, she was banned for antisemitic outpourings.
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:09:53pm |
re: #231 ralphieboy
C'mon, you know the talking point by now: Jesus forbids violence, Muhammad requires it.
but this accusation can be avoided simply by saying they are not Muslims.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:10:38pm |
re: #223 Rightwingconspirator
Okay the people of some faith and the atheists have certainly had our interesting discussions. So check this out... Page pending (maybe)
Buit how does he stack up against "Generic Deity"?
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:11:25pm |
re: #236 Sergey Romanov
Irony is, she was banned for antisemitic outpourings.
Indeed.
I think at times, taking the approach of having a good laugh at some of these clowns (ala Stewart, Colbert) is the best attitude to keeping it frosty...
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:12:24pm |
re: #239 ralphieboy
Buit how does he stack up against "Generic Deity"?
Generic Diety beats all opponents.
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:12:54pm |
re: #239 ralphieboy
I find it incredible that people respond seriously to a survey like this.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:13:43pm |
re: #243 Naso Tang
I find it incredible that people respond seriously to a survey like this.
I didn't even bother looking at the link. I honestly thought it was from The Onion.
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:14:01pm |
re: #240 Ericus58
Indeed.
I think at times, taking the approach of having a good laugh at some of these clowns (ala Stewart, Colbert) is the best attitudeto keeping itwhile opening a frosty...
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:14:02pm |
re: #239 ralphieboy
Buit how does he stack up against "Generic Deity"?
Dude, that right there just might be the thread winner!
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:14:15pm |
re: #235 Sergey Romanov
From Rottie comments:
Looking at these numbers I would say that the 65 percent is bullshit. Palestine is the only country that comes close. Every other country is 35 percent or less.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:14:21pm |
Introspection (from Rottie comments):
94
LC LOBO growls and barks:
July 27, 2011 at 11:45 amI’ll be honest, I really don’t give a shit about a nazi killing commies. What bothers me is that the left wing scum that passes as news, keeps pounding the “fact” that this was a Christian and Conservative. He is no more Christian, Conservative than I am mooslim.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:14:56pm |
re: #243 Naso Tang
I find it incredible that people respond seriously to a survey like this.
It shows that people like to talk about religion, but that almost anything one can say about the topic is subjective and highly inconclusive.
Just look at the ongoing debate about Breivik's Christianity...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:15:35pm |
The best part about apocalyptic sci-fi movies is the fact that it appears somebody made a bomb that killed only engineers, scientists, and people with building skills. OH, and anybody with horticulture skills.
I mean, really, we somehow lose the ability to build and construct anything, and live in a really dirty world where we have to scrounge what was made previously, but badly.
Nobody's left, apparently, who can figure out how to use batteries, copper wire, and some sort of physical force (water, wind, etc.) to make electricity.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:15:49pm |
re: #247 Gus 802
Still awfully disconcerting stats, but nowhere near our Gobble-Gobbles'.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:16:30pm |
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:17:01pm |
re: #250 ralphieboy
Just look at the ongoing debate about Breivik's Christianity...
Shouldn't you be putting 'scare quotes' around the C-Word, since the jury is still out on whether ABB is really a Christian?
/// +infinity
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:18:22pm |
re: #250 ralphieboy
sticking with brevity..
It shows that people like to talk about religion, but that
almostanythingone can sayabout the topic is subjective and highly inconclusive.
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:20:34pm |
Also, The Atlantic is suggesting that Boehner's plan is back from the dead in the House:
[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:20:45pm |
re: #256 Lidane
Per Media Matters:
Europe "Got The Uneducated, Illiterate Muslims. We Got The Doctors, The Physicists, The Professors"
Did we just put a better ad in the papers?
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:20:53pm |
reine.de.tout, are you here? I have something for you...
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:21:30pm |
re: #256 Lidane
Per Media Matters:
Europe "Got The Uneducated, Illiterate Muslims. We Got The Doctors, The Physicists, The Professors"
Per that idiot, Ralph Peters. What about the fact that the doctors are always the terrorists?
/
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Meitantei Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:21:32pm |
So one thing I'm confused about is:
If the GOP really does fall under Bachmann's control and goes "BBA or bust!", what does Obama do? Or what can he do?
| 262 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:21:50pm |
Somewhat OT:
Congress to airlines: Pass along savings to passengers or trust fund
Washington (CNN) -- Airlines benefiting from a unplanned federal tax holiday should save the money for the government or pass it along to the passengers, but should not pocket the money themselves, key congressional leaders said Tuesday.
At issue is millions of dollars in passenger taxes -- taxes ordinarily collected by the airlines. But since Saturday, the airlines have not collected the taxes because of Congress's inability to pass a bill to fund the Federal Aviation Administration.
The airlines could have passed along the savings to air travelers. But instead, most airlines raised their base ticket prices at amounts equal to, or similar to, the expired tax.
"These taxes are crushing demand and keeping people away! Wait, the taxes are gone...oh well, more money for me!"
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:21:55pm |
re: #256 Lidane
Per Media Matters:
Europe "Got The Uneducated, Illiterate Muslims. We Got The Doctors, The Physicists, The Professors"
Given that it's the fundie minority that is enamored of evolution denial, climate denial, science and history denial in general, this is rich.
| 264 |
engineer cat Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:21:57pm |
ignatz cat declares cantaloup to be Perfectly Acceptable feline nourishment
"but what's up with those weird ORANGES, daddy?"
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:23:26pm |
re: #256 Lidane
Per Media Matters:
Europe "Got The Uneducated, Illiterate Muslims. We Got The Doctors, The Physicists, The Professors"
Well, uh, good for us.
Or something.
We have a better class of Muslim.
So maybe we should stop bitching about them all the time? If they're doing so much for society?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:23:33pm |
re: #251 EmmmieG
The best part about apocalyptic sci-fi movies is the fact that it appears somebody made a bomb that killed only engineers, scientists, and people with building skills. OH, and anybody with horticulture skills.
I mean, really, we somehow lose the ability to build and construct anything, and live in a really dirty world where we have to scrounge what was made previously, but badly.
Nobody's left, apparently, who can figure out how to use batteries, copper wire, and some sort of physical force (water, wind, etc.) to make electricity.
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kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:23:36pm |
re: #251 EmmmieG
The best part about apocalyptic sci-fi movies is the fact that it appears somebody made a bomb that killed only engineers, scientists, and people with building skills. OH, and anybody with horticulture skills.
I mean, really, we somehow lose the ability to build and construct anything, and live in a really dirty world where we have to scrounge what was made previously, but badly.
Nobody's left, apparently, who can figure out how to use batteries, copper wire, and some sort of physical force (water, wind, etc.) to make electricity.
Ever notice how the apocalyptic village never seems to have a farm large enough to support the village? Heck, most don't seem to have even a garden.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:23:45pm |
re: #259 CuriousLurker
reine.de.tout, are you here? I have something for you...
did you bring enough for the whole class?
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:24:41pm |
re: #252 Sergey Romanov
Still awfully disconcerting stats, but nowhere near our Gobble-Gobbles'.
Yeah. I look at that and think that there's probably an awful lot of poor people saying yes. At the same time it also be noted that it doesn't say "always justified." Lebanon went from 74% in 2002 down to 35% in 2011.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:25:14pm |
re: #261 Meitantei
So one thing I'm confused about is:
If the GOP really does fall under Bachmann's control and goes "BBA or bust!", what does Obama do? Or what can he do?
A president with a backbone would call the GOP's bluff and tell them where to stick their bill. But Obama? My inner cynic tells me if the bill ends up on his desk, he'll sign it, just to say he avoided default.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:25:49pm |
re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth
Ha. I'm related to two electrical engineers. I figure in the apocalypse, at least I'll be able to run the fridge.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:25:58pm |
re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth
We're not smart. We just buy shit from smart people.[Video]
OI!!! NSFW language on that clip. Sorry, my bad.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:27:11pm |
re: #258 EmmmieG
Did we just put a better ad in the papers?
He has a bit of a point: Europe's social and educational system does not offer the sort of incentive or the opportunities for them and other immigrants to rise above menial labor and enter into professional positions that we have in America.
That is one of the contributing factors to the social conflicts we see in Europe.
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:30:50pm |
re: #270 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
A president with a backbone would call the GOP's bluff and tell them where to stick their bill. But Obama? My inner cynic tells me if the bill ends up on his desk, he'll sign it, just to say he avoided default.
If that scenario played out that way - I personally would look at it that Obama made that choice to prevent a worse outcome of the budget impasse. He would be putting the good of the country above all.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:31:52pm |
re: #271 EmmmieG
Ha. I'm related to two electrical engineers. I figure in the apocalypse, at least I'll be able to run the fridge.
Okay then, I'm gonna come hang with you.
BTW, I am also related to an electrical engineer (deceased), and I don't know shit. I can solder, and recite Ohm's Law, but beyond that you will have to tutor me.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:32:02pm |
re: #268 wrenchwench
did you bring enough for the whole class?
LOL, yeah, sure! I just wanted to let her know that I added an update at the bottom of my Jihadi gaze page with a new gif that also morphs the OBL photo she had in mind as well as one other.
Here it is if you don't want to go back to the Page.
Their smiles make me want to put my fist through the screen....
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kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:32:32pm |
re: #270 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
A president with a backbone would call the GOP's bluff and tell them where to stick their bill. But Obama? My inner cynic tells me if the bill ends up on his desk, he'll sign it, just to say he avoided default.
I think the key word in that is "if".
At this point that's a mighty big word.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:32:35pm |
re: #251 EmmmieG
The best part about apocalyptic sci-fi movies is the fact that it appears somebody made a bomb that killed only engineers, scientists, and people with building skills. OH, and anybody with horticulture skills.
I mean, really, we somehow lose the ability to build and construct anything, and live in a really dirty world where we have to scrounge what was made previously, but badly.
Nobody's left, apparently, who can figure out how to use batteries, copper wire, and some sort of physical force (water, wind, etc.) to make electricity.
Did I really say that? I mean magnets, copper wire and physical force.
This is why I leave the electrical engineer-ing to Dad and Mr. EmmmieG.
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:32:42pm |
re: #258 EmmmieG
Did we just put a better ad in the papers?
I think that we have a stricter vetting system for legal immigration, and less illegal immigration from other than Latin America.
| 280 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:33:19pm |
More here from PEW:
Released: July 21, 2011
Common Concerns About Islamic Extremism
Muslim-Western Tensions Persist
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:34:06pm |
re: #279 Naso Tang
I think that we have a stricter vetting system for legal immigration, and less illegal immigration from other than Latin America.
I think Ralph Peters was telling a lie.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:34:48pm |
re: #274 Ericus58
If that scenario played out that way - I personally would look at it that Obama made that choice to prevent a worse outcome of the budget impasse. He would be putting the good of the country above all.
"Good of the country"? By this point, even if a bill gets signed into law, plenty of damage is done. We're likely to see our credit rating downgraded, the market's already spooked, and there's no telling how much economic damage has been done by companies holding off to see how this all shakes out.
And the CCB bill will simply compound that, cutting back spending to levels that haven't been seen since JFK was in office. We'll have exchanged a quick boom for a slow death.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:34:52pm |
re: #279 Naso Tang
I think that we have a stricter vetting system for legal immigration, and less illegal immigration from other than Latin America.
Dunno about that. We have Asian immigrants coming in illegally.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:35:17pm |
re: #276 CuriousLurker
LOL, yeah, sure! I just wanted to let her know that I added an update at the bottom of my Jihadi gaze page with a new gif that also morphs the OBL photo she had in mind as well as one other.
Here it is if you don't want to go back to the Page.
Their smiles make me want to put my fist through the screen...
Eww, do not want. Good work, though.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:36:01pm |
re: #278 EmmmieG
Oh, hey. I know some stuff about car repair. Now, where do we get our gas after the apocalypse? I'm not impressive enough to pull off a Lord Humungus gig.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:36:41pm |
re: #284 wrenchwench
Eww, do not want. Good work, though.
Thanks. Yeah, they're not pleasant to look at.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:38:52pm |
re: #286 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh, hey. I know some stuff about car repair. Now, where do we get our gas after the apocalypse? I'm not impressive enough to pull off a Lord Humungus gig.
We may be stuck with those stupid bicycles for a bit. Actually, if you could figure out how to rig up a small engine to a bicycle, we could really stretch the small supply of gas that can be salvaged from gas stations and abandoned cars.
Refinement of petroleum would actually require large scale operations, if I am not mistaken.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:39:10pm |
re: #287 CuriousLurker
This kinda reminded me of another page:
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Interesting Times Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:39:33pm |
re: #287 CuriousLurker
Thanks. Yeah, they're not pleasant to look at.
It's enough to make me suggest flagging anyone with that expression for extra security checks.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:40:44pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:40:49pm |
re: #288 EmmmieG
Sooo... where do we get the rubber for the tires? Grease for the bearings and gears?
Hmm... I'm getting a sinking feeling that this post-apocalypse thing is gonna suck.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:41:01pm |
I was (half) kidding last week about the Executive Order thing as regards the debt ceiling. But some members of Congress have the same idea, it seems.
“I would say to the President, that if that’s what lands on his desk — a short term lifting of the ceiling — of the debt ceiling. He should put it on his desk next to an executive order that he will have drawn up. And with the same pen that he vetoes that short term debt ceiling extension, he should sign an executive order invoking the 14th Amendment to this issue. I am convinced that whatever discussions about the legality of that can continue but I believe that something like this will bring calm to the American people, and will bring needed stability to our financial markets.”
Me: Stopped clock or blind squirrel? :)
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:41:04pm |
re: #282 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
"Good of the country"? By this point, even if a bill gets signed into law, plenty of damage is done. We're likely to see our credit rating downgraded, the market's already spooked, and there's no telling how much economic damage has been done by companies holding off to see how this all shakes out.
And the CCB bill will simply compound that, cutting back spending to levels that haven't been seen since JFK was in office. We'll have exchanged a quick boom for a slow death.
I would much rather have him sign a simple debt ceiling bill than finding out what's on the other side of the mirror due to cutting of payments/default.
Yeppers, there has been some damage done already - I linked an article earlier in the thread in regards to that.
So, red or blue pill?
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:41:53pm |
re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth
Sooo... where do we get the rubber for the tires? Grease for the bearings and gears?
Hmm... I'm getting a sinking feeling that this post-apocalypse thing is gonna suck.
Wrenchwench is stocking up for us
/
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:41:55pm |
re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth
Sooo... where do we get the rubber for the tires? Grease for the bearings and gears?
Hmm... I'm getting a sinking feeling that this post-apocalypse thing is gonna suck.
You think getting the rubber for tires would be bad. Try filling them up with air!
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:42:03pm |
re: #291 CuriousLurker
John Bolton is there, so it's worth it ;)
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:42:11pm |
re: #290 publicityStunted
It's enough to make me suggest flagging anyone with that expression for extra security checks.
I know, right? I starts to really creep you out after you see a series of them like that.
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:42:51pm |
re: #281 wrenchwench
I think Ralph Peters was telling a lie.
There's more to it of course. We probably do have less social discrimination, we have more geography and options that avoid ghetto development and more.
I believe Europe does have a larger percentage of asylum immigrants who did not bring "middle class" skills. That may be a factor in the differences, so I'm not going to go with liar liar, and I haven't bothered to read the article link at all.
Ralph Peters may well deserve your scorn depending on how he framed it.
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blueraven Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:42:55pm |
The MSM need to get off their ass and quit claiming some equivalency between the parties here.
This crisis is the fault of the republican party as a whole and specifically the TP. They own it. TOTALLY. The pussification of the media is astounding.
They need to start telling the truth to the American people and at the same time apply the pressure for compromise.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:43:19pm |
re: #297 Sergey Romanov
John Bolton is there, so it's worth it ;)
LOL, I can't stand the man. And that ridiculous walrus 'stache!
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:43:24pm |
re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth
Sooo... where do we get the rubber for the tires? Grease for the bearings and gears?
Hmm... I'm getting a sinking feeling that this post-apocalypse thing is gonna suck.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:43:31pm |
re: #298 CuriousLurker
Post-homicidal bliss.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:44:01pm |
re: #301 CuriousLurker
The porn stache!
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BishopX Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:44:34pm |
re: #279 Naso Tang
I think that we have a stricter vetting system for legal immigration, and less illegal immigration from other than Latin America.
I think the opposite is true. It's considerably easier to gain citizenship in America than it is in Europe. It takes longer here(the US has huge backlogs due to caps) but you don't have to get approved by local referendum (Switzerland), or have to take a test on your English language skills and knowledge of America within 3 years (Netherlands). We also have significant illegal immigration from non Latin American countries. In Boston for example we have a sizable illegal Irish population.
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blueraven Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:44:51pm |
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:44:54pm |
re: #303 Sergey Romanov
Post-homicidal bliss.
QFT. All those photos were post-evil deeds. Mission accomplished satisfaction.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:44:56pm |
Tea Party Leaders Cite Member "Concern" about Speaker Boehner's Leadership
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:45:19pm |
re: #307 CuriousLurker
Afterglow.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:45:36pm |
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:45:53pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:46:21pm |
re: #294 Ericus58
I would much rather have him sign a simple debt ceiling bill than finding out what's on the other side of the mirror due to cutting of payments/default.
Yeppers, there has been some damage done already - I linked an article earlier in the thread in regards to that.
So, red or blue pill?
At this point, I'd rather have the default than shackle this nation to the GOP's whims for the foreseeable future. If there is to be disaster, then let it happen now, rather than delaying it longer.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:46:44pm |
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:47:03pm |
re: #283 SanFranciscoZionist
Dunno about that. We have Asian immigrants coming in illegally.
We weren't talking of Asian immigrants, nor denying that illegal ones exist. I simply am under the impression that proportionately there are differences between Europe and the US, and I would add that it is my understanding that "Asian" immigrants in this country are probably the most successful group of all. Probably because of close family ties and support system. (You know, socialist stuff/)
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:47:06pm |
re: #301 CuriousLurker
LOL, I can't stand the man. And that ridiculous walrus 'stache!
He's kinda stuck at the turn of the last century in grooming standards...
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:48:06pm |
Defending Breivik: European Politicians in Hot Water for Norway Comments
Francesco Speroni, who was the Minister of Institutional Reform under Berlusconi in the mid-1990s and current leading member of Italy's Northern League, said Tuesday on an Italian radio show, "If [Breivik's] ideas are that we are going towards Eurabia [Islamized Europe] and those sorts of things, that western Christian civilization needs to be defended, yes, I'm in agreement."
Speroni said he condemned the attack itself but was coming to the defense of Mario Borghezio, a fellow member of the Northern League and member of the European Parliament's Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs, who previously said some of Breivik's ideas were "great."
...
A member of France's right-wing National Front party has already been suspended for writing a blog post defending Breivik and calling him an "icon," Britain's The Telegraph reported."The reason for the Norway terror attacks: fighting the Muslim invasion, that's what people don't want you to know," read a post signed by Jacques Coutela. Coutela called Breivik, "the main defender of the West."
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:48:13pm |
re: #315 Ericus58
He's kinda stuck at the turn of the last century in grooming standards...
Too true!
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:48:38pm |
Anyone who has not read oslogin's most recent post (in English) should rectify that right now.
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:49:17pm |
re: #312 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
At this point, I'd rather have the default than shackle this nation to the GOP's whims for the foreseeable future. If there is to be disaster, then let it happen now, rather than delaying it longer.
then it's the red pill for you......
/good luck, Copper Top
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:49:18pm |
re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth
Sooo... where do we get the rubber for the tires? Grease for the bearings and gears?
Hmm... I'm getting a sinking feeling that this post-apocalypse thing is gonna suck.
Well, we start with a rubber tree, a fiscus elastica. They can be grown outside of Mesoamerica.
Now, since the secret of vulcanizing rubber is not going to disappear entirely and immediately, we have until the current stock of tires disappears to make a substitute that can at least be ridden on. They will kind of suck, compared to today's tires.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:49:36pm |
re: #315 Ericus58
He's kinda stuck at the turn of the last century in grooming standards...
Eh. For all we know the Stache is the boss, and the John is a growth.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:49:45pm |
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Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:49:53pm |
re: #305 BishopX
I think the opposite is true. It's considerably easier to gain citizenship in America than it is in Europe.
We were taking of immigration, legal and not legal, and not from Ireland.
Illegal immigrants do not get US citizenship, even when the circumstances should allow it.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:51:16pm |
For those who didn't take the test at Maddox's page, here's the description:
John Bolton:John Bolton is proof that looks can be deceiving. Though a moustache that looks this menacing might send up red flags, Bolton is no pedophile. His sexual deviancy is limited to allegations of coercing his first wife into group sex at a swinger's resort.
Other than that, the only thing you can pin him with is that whole trumping up the case for war using forged uranium enrichment documents that the CIA called doubtful, but still, he hasn't molested children and I think we can all agree that's admirable.
Status: Still a douche
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:53:43pm |
re: #316 Killgore Trout
Defending Breivik: European Politicians in Hot Water for Norway Comments
"We agree that Europe needs to commit suicide to save itself from the Muslims, we just think he's going about it incorrectly."
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:53:53pm |
re: #314 Naso Tang
We weren't talking of Asian immigrants, nor denying that illegal ones exist. I simply am under the impression that proportionately there are differences between Europe and the US, and I would add that it is my understanding that "Asian" immigrants in this country are probably the most successful group of all. Probably because of close family ties and support system. (You know, socialist stuff/)
I am aware that you weren't talking of Asian immigrants, but we do have illegal immigration coming from many places besides Latin America.
As for the success rates: there are folks in that category. There are also a lot of desperately poor people who came over by the themselves and end up illegal, doing shit work, and trying to pay off the gangsters that brought them over here.
I really haven't found a good source of comparative information about US and European immigration, and how it's going, and why, and who's involved, and how many illegal as opposed to legal immigrants there are. I know that the situation is quite different, as is the approach.
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Ericus58 Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:54:10pm |
Stay Frosty, my Friends.
My private Spring beckons!
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:54:48pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:55:29pm |
re: #323 Naso Tang
We were taking of immigration, legal and not legal, and not from Ireland.
Illegal immigrants do not get US citizenship, even when the circumstances should allow it.
What are we talking about?
Both of us gave counterexamples to a statement of yours about not having as much illegal immigration as Europe, except from Latin America, and both times you've said, 'that's not what we're talking about'.
What's the topic!?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:55:59pm |
re: #259 CuriousLurker
reine.de.tout, are you here? I have something for you...
Here I am CL, just getting here (I swear, it should NOT take 3 days to move your kid to an apartment 20 minutes away, should it???)
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:56:01pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
Ah I see 1389 gets a mention. He's one of the admins for the stalker blog.
Which gets its own mention.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:56:03pm |
OT, but Tropical Storm Don has formed.
Don replaced Dennis when it was retired in 2005.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:56:13pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:57:55pm |
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reine.de.tout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:58:20pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
Ah I see 1389 gets a mention. He's one of the admins for the stalker blog.
Was here for awhile too, wasn't it?
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simoom Wed, Jul 27, 2011 1:58:50pm |
re: #179 Gus 802
@TPM Talking Points Memo
Tea Party Rally Against Boehner Plan Draws Next To Nobody [Link: tpm.ly...] ^@benjysarlin
Hey, that's unfair, take a look at the crowd of press it drew! ///:
Image: 5981973020_568b5c0f70_b.jpg
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albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:00:23pm |
skinniest house in the world...
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:00:50pm |
> Draws Next To Nobody
Aww, what a love story.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:01:53pm |
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Randall Gross Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:02:15pm |
re: #329 Killgore Trout
Ah I see 1389 gets a mention. He's one of the admins for the stalker blog.
blogmocracy also snuck in and dropped a link to their blog in the comments.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:02:30pm |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:02:33pm |
re: #316 Killgore Trout
Defending Breivik: European Politicians in Hot Water for Norway Comments
"If [Breivik's] ideas are that we are going towards Eurabia..."
Can anybody explain to me how "Eurabia" is less bigoted than "Jew York"?
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kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:02:58pm |
re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth
Sooo... where do we get the rubber for the tires? Grease for the bearings and gears?
Hmm... I'm getting a sinking feeling that this post-apocalypse thing is gonna suck.
Two words to send you screaming into the night.
Coffee.
Chocolate.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:03:00pm |
re: #23 ralphieboy
This story (and probably many more like it) goes beyond any sort of gay/straight discussion: it is about bullying, it is about a social atmosphere that allows or even encourages children to pick on those who are different and thus vulnerable.
But as soon as anything with teh gey raises its head, it is full rejection mode from the part of parents, staff and administrators, they refuse to see beyond teh tey aspect of it and rant and rave about people trying to force something on them or into their orifices against their will (or at least against their expressed will and choice of belief systems).
And it has contributed to some tragic events.
It reminds me of what the Little Rock Nine. These kid went thru literal hell, just to attend an previously all-white high school. So called Christians threw acid in the faces of some of the kids.
Why do people do such things? I'll never understand.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:03:02pm |
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BishopX Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:03:08pm |
re: #323 Naso Tang
We were taking of immigration, legal and not legal, and not from Ireland.
Illegal immigrants do not get US citizenship, even when the circumstances should allow it.
I'm sorry if I was unclear. In your 279 you brought up two separate points, the ease of legal immigration ("vetting system") and illegal immigration. I responded to those points in order. The US has a more lax naturalization policy than most of Europe (although it has a backlog). In regards to illegal immigration, I pointed out that the US has significant illegal immigration from non-Latin American sources because you had previously said the US has "less illegal immigration from other than Latin America". As an example I pointed to the illegal Irish immigrants in Boston, because I'm from Boston. Nationally only 40% of illegal immigrants sneak across the boarder. The rest fly in and overstay visas. Many of the immigrants flying in are not from Latin America.
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jvic Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:03:13pm |
The Atlantic's Megan McArdle:
...Our AAA is not at risk because our current fiscal path is unsustainable, but because ratings agencies know what many GOP freshman and party activists apparently do not: that doing the unpopular things required to get the budget in balance is going to require both parties to hold hands and jump together. Otherwise, whoever forces through their unpopular plan (huge tax increases/massive spending cuts) is going to get trounced at the next elections by an opposition party promising to undo whatever it is the party in charge has just done.My reading of what the ratings agencies have said is that if the GOP somehow manages to force the Democrats to do everything their way, this will not secure our AAA; it will guarantee that we lose it, because it will show that we are currently unable to make the ugly bipartisan compromises that long-term budget balance requires, and raises the risk that sometime in the not-very-distant future, the other party will retaliate by threatening default.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:04:39pm |
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
My soul and my gut tell me to feel deeply sorry for what occurred in Norway. How can one not….right? I just cannot justify to myself the seemingly random violence and hurt caused by this seemingly horrible act. But, my survival mechanism keeps reminding me that those harmed wanted me dead! Am I really to cry over the death of those who wanted me and my family to die, and actively worked for it?
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:04:51pm |
re: #333 ProLifeLiberal
Is expected to hit the Texas Coast as a strong Tropical Storm (65 mph).
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:04:53pm |
re: #331 reine.de.tout
Here I am CL, just getting here (I swear, it should NOT take 3 days to move your kid to an apartment 20 minutes away, should it???)
See my #276. ;)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:05:05pm |
re: #338 albusteve
skinniest house in the world...
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]
Yuck.
And I say that as someone who usually thinks tiny houses are cute.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:05:23pm |
re: #344 kirkspencer
Two words to send you screaming into the night.
Coffee.
ChocolateBeer.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:05:47pm |
re: #343 Sergey Romanov
"If [Breivik's] ideas are that we are going towards Eurabia..."
Can anybody explain to me how "Eurabia" is less bigoted than "Jew York"?
Yes. It's Muslims that are the real racists, so nothing we say about them is really racist.
//And there you have it.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:06:07pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
Norwegian children wanted to kill him? He's clearly been up to no good since leaving here....
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:06:19pm |
re: #261 Meitantei
So one thing I'm confused about is:
If the GOP really does fall under Bachmann's control and goes "BBA or bust!", what does Obama do? Or what can he do?
14th amendment, baby
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:06:22pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
That one was a real piece of work. Good riddance.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:06:51pm |
re: #331 reine.de.tout
And, no, it shouldn't take that long (but somehow it always does...)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:06:54pm |
re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist
I mean, it's not even the religious reference, which could be explained away as criticizing ideology. It's pure ethnic slur.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:07:31pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
Kids at a summer camp = The enemy?
What a piece of fucking shit.
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albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:07:44pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
what a freak...he makes no sense at all
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:07:54pm |
re: #352 SanFranciscoZionist
Yuck.
And I say that as someone who usually thinks tiny houses are cute.
Maybe you can get it as a triple wide.
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:07:57pm |
re: #331 reine.de.tout
Here I am CL, just getting here (I swear, it should NOT take 3 days to move your kid to an apartment 20 minutes away, should it???)
I think it took me & Mr. w a week to move two doors down.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:08:04pm |
Meanwhile, in Michelle Bachmann's district...
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:08:28pm |
re: #360 Sergey Romanov
I mean, it's not even the religious reference, which could be explained away as criticizing ideology. It's pure ethnic slur.
They don't care. They see themselves as victims. Charges of bigotry, as far as they're concerned, are just distractions from the real issue at hand--how oppressed and endangered they are.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:10:00pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
Weird wording in that.
"My soul and gut tell me" to be deeply sorry? Not, "I am deeply sorry"?
And then the "but". When you see a "but", you know they don't really mean whatever they said before it.
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Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:10:48pm |
He dressed as a cop, hunted down and killed kids trapped on an island.
There are no buts, maybe, have to wonders, had a point, had it coming, or any other justification. If you think there is, you're a worthless piece of shit.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:11:04pm |
re: #359 CuriousLurker
And, no, it shouldn't take that long (but somehow it always does...)
I saw your new photo merge (I don't know what else to call it).
Great job!
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recusancy Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:11:33pm |
re: #348 jvic
The Atlantic's Megan McArdle:
Hey! Another blind squirrel finds a nut. Good job Megan!
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albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:11:45pm |
re: #367 reine.de.tout
Weird wording in that.
"My soul and gut tell me" to be deeply sorry? Not, "I am deeply sorry"?
And then the "but". When you see a "but", you know they don't really mean whatever they said before it.
he's a blustering fake...tries to intellectualize all his internal hate and comes off sounding like Bozo the Hun....he's a parody of himself, totally unimportant
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:13:03pm |
re: #355 wrenchwench
Norwegian children wanted to kill him? He's clearly been up to no good since leaving here...
I'm ashamed to admit that I think I appealed to Charles after him banning. I was very wrong.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:13:58pm |
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albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:14:16pm |
re: #372 Killgore Trout
I'm ashamed to admit that I think I appealed to Charles after him banning. I was very wrong.
he's a dim wit...if he had half the brain of a radish he'd still be posting here
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ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:14:20pm |
He is the cone of uncertanity for TS Don.
Comments from our resident Texans?
| 376 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:14:35pm |
How is the afternoon going everyone?
I actually accomplished something while I was gone.
what did you do?
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:15:26pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
My soul and my gut tell me to feel deeply sorry for what occurred in Norway. How can one not….right? I just cannot justify to myself the seemingly random violence and hurt caused by this seemingly horrible act. But, my survival mechanism keeps reminding me that those harmed wanted me dead! Am I really to cry over the death of those who wanted me and my family to die, and actively worked for it?
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
This is the EXACT same justification that Palestinian suicide bombers use when Jewish children are among their victims: "The Jewish children will grow up to be adult Jews and they'll join the army and oppress/kill us, so it's okay to preemptively murder them as they're not really innocent."
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:15:43pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
All those kids wanted him dead!
There are no words for the stupidity of human beings on the internet, I just have to laugh, because it's amazing that they dare type something like that
Might as well scan in their double digit iq tests
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:15:48pm |
re: #372 Killgore Trout
I'm ashamed to admit that I think I appealed to Charles after him banning. I was very wrong.
A lot of those who got banned seemed pretty nice most of the time. Made me into quite a skeptic. I'm still deciding whether you are for real...frogs, kale, really....
/
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:16:38pm |
re: #372 Killgore Trout
I'm ashamed to admit that I think I appealed to Charles after him banning. I was very wrong.
WoG is a Kahanist, that explains everything.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:16:46pm |
re: #338 albusteve
skinniest house in the world...
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]
What's with the pillow at the base of the eave? How is anyone going to get there to sit?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:16:46pm |
re: #376 ggt
How is the afternoon going everyone?
I actually accomplished something while I was gone.
what did you do?
I woke up, later i will draw things
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Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:16:51pm |
Rodan....
I condemn the attacks, but it’s not like my heart is bleeding. They justify their terror, now it’s done to them.
Wrath again....
....the Government of Norway is aiding and abetting Terrorism.Well, t makes one start to wonder if this attack was simply civilian based anti-Terrorist activity.
I know Charles would prefer we avoid quoting the stalkers but it's an important reminder of why they're not welcome here anymore. I'll stop now.
| 384 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:16:58pm |
re: #376 ggt
How is the afternoon going everyone?
I actually accomplished something while I was gone.
what did you do?
Your mom.
/sorry, couldn't resist
| 385 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:17:23pm |
re: #381 ggt
What's with the pillow at the base of the eave? How is anyone going to get there to sit?
the staircase folds upward to make a floor
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:17:33pm |
re: #380 Sergey Romanov
WoG is a Kahanist, that explains everything.
They are no different than those they hate.
| 387 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:17:37pm |
re: #380 Sergey Romanov
WoG is a Kahanist, that explains everything.
*sad-yet-crazy-out-of-tune-trumpet* Wah wah wahhhhhhhhhhhhWEEEAROooo...
| 388 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:17:38pm |
re: #338 albusteve
skinniest house in the world...
[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]
NO fire exit, no kitchen?
| 389 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:18:03pm |
re: #376 ggt
How is the afternoon going everyone?
I actually accomplished something while I was gone.
what did you do?
Weeded the salsify patch and put straw mulch under the fig tree.
| 390 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:18:05pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
WrathOfG-d, get fucked, you miserable, sociopathic POS...
| 391 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:18:48pm |
re: #368 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
He dressed as a cop, hunted down and killed kids trapped on an island.
There are no buts, maybe, have to wonders, had a point, had it coming, or any other justification. If you think there is, you're a worthless piece of shit.
QFMFT!
| 392 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:18:54pm |
re: #383 Killgore Trout
Rodan...
Wrath again...
I know Charles would prefer we avoid quoting the stalkers but it's an important reminder of why they're not welcome here anymore. I'll stop now.
I'll follow...my dander is up....he was posting to me when he was banned...it was stunning, but that was then
| 393 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:19:30pm |
re: #377 CuriousLurker
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
This is the EXACT same justification that Palestinian suicide bombers use when Jewish children are among their victims: "The Jewish children will grow up to be adult Jews and they'll join the army and oppress/kill us, so it's okay to preemptively murder them as they're not really innocent."
And you know damn well the stalkers would be saying the guy represented every Muslim in the world and what a inhuman monster he was.
When its own of their own, he's a lone gunman and a freedom fighter.
He's your boy, guys. Own it.
| 394 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:19:38pm |
re: #390 talon_262
WrathOfG-d, get fucked, you miserable, sociopathic POS...
Just another average retard on the internet who drinks his own bathwater
| 395 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:19:47pm |
| 396 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:19:55pm |
re: #377 CuriousLurker
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
This is the EXACT same justification that Palestinian suicide bombers use when Jewish children are among their victims: "The Jewish children will grow up to be adult Jews and they'll join the army and oppress/kill us, so it's okay to preemptively murder them as they're not really innocent."
And yet, these folks think that they are not barbarians--and that Palestinian suicide bombers are.
| 397 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:20:15pm |
re: #349 Killgore Trout
ex Lizard WrathofG-d
No tears to the murdered children. They were the enemy.
And, the proof that these people wanted whoever dead?
tangible or fantasized proof?
| 398 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:20:20pm |
re: #353 Slumbering Behemoth
no, not beer. Beer is relatively easy, and the ingredients are attainable throughout the nation. There are enough craft beer makers who have access to local supplies - even given those who'll fail instead of learning how to sanitize "the hard way" and how to cultivate their yeast.
| 399 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:21:08pm |
re: #380 Sergey Romanov
WoG is a Kahanist, that explains everything.
Not really, it's just another belief system that someone like that would naturally gravitate to.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:21:15pm |
re: #398 kirkspencer
no, not beer. Beer is relatively easy, and the ingredients are attainable throughout the nation. There are enough craft beer makers who have access to local supplies - even given those who'll fail instead of learning how to sanitize "the hard way" and how to cultivate their yeast.
Portland will be good for beer after the apocalypse, no worries
| 401 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:21:15pm |
re: #397 ggt
And, the proof that these people wanted whoever dead?
tangible or fantasized proof?
Well, they've got this manifesto which lays out their case...
| 402 |
CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:21:37pm |
re: #393 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And you know damn well the stalkers would be saying the guy represented every Muslim in the world and what a inhuman monster he was.
When its own of their own, he's a lone gunman and a freedom fighter.
He's your boy, guys. Own it.
QFT
| 403 |
Randall Gross Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:22:18pm |
Meanwhile, I find it both disgusting and disturbing that some lizards are still linking blogs that carry Atlas Shrugs in the sidebar here.
| 404 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:22:24pm |
re: #381 ggt
What's with the pillow at the base of the eave? How is anyone going to get there to sit?
Some people brought that up in the comments.
Also, if you look at the outside view, it looks like a home pregnancy kit rammed between two buildings.
| 406 |
CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:23:28pm |
re: #396 SanFranciscoZionist
And yet, these folks think that they are not barbarians--and that Palestinian suicide bombers are.
It boggles my mind that they can't won't see that they have become the very thing they supposedly loathe.
| 407 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:23:28pm |
| 408 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:23:30pm |
re: #403 Thanos
Meanwhile, I find it both disgusting and disturbing that some lizards are still linking blogs that carry Atlas Shrugs in the sidebar here.
The dumb is everywhere! It's the internet!
Stupidity on the internet, it's like dust, it collects everywhere
| 409 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:23:43pm |
re: #399 SanFranciscoZionist
Not really, it's just another belief system that someone like that would naturally gravitate to.
It's a marker, you see someone loving Kahane (whose party was declared illegal in Israel), you expect a bunch of associated diseases.
| 410 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:23:58pm |
re: #404 SanFranciscoZionist
Some people brought that up in the comments.
Also, if you look at the outside view, it looks like a home pregnancy kit rammed between two buildings.
When two buildings love each other very much...
| 411 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:24:15pm |
re: #397 ggt
And, the proof that these people wanted whoever dead?
tangible or fantasized proof?
Liberals hate. Liberals want to destroy. Liberals are the enemy. These guys have said it so often, sooner or later they were going to start believing it.
| 412 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:24:25pm |
re: #395 albusteve
the kitchen is to the right of the toilet
looked like the rest of the bathroom to me.
| 413 |
wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:24:29pm |
re: #403 Thanos
Meanwhile, I find it both disgusting and disturbing that some lizards are still linking blogs that carry Atlas Shrugs in the sidebar here.
Will a downding campaign have any effect?
| 414 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:24:41pm |
re: #398 kirkspencer
no, not beer. Beer is relatively easy, and the ingredients are attainable throughout the nation. There are enough craft beer makers who have access to local supplies - even given those who'll fail instead of learning how to sanitize "the hard way" and how to cultivate their yeast.
Sorry EmmmieG, but it looks like I'll be hanging with Kirk after the apocalypse instead of you. :P
| 415 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:24:48pm |
Congressional offices in the Philadelphia region were swamped with phone calls and e-mails Tuesday as constituents lashed out in frustration at Washington's failure to resolve the debt-ceiling crisis.
It was the same all over the country after the televised speech Monday night in which President Obama urged Americans to call their representatives and tell them to make a deal - any reasonable deal - to end the standoff before an Aug. 2 deadline that could throw the nation into financial crisis.
gosh...are people upset with the feds?....why those traitors
[Link: www.philly.com...]
| 416 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:25:00pm |
re: #393 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
This is the EXACT same justification that Palestinian suicide bombers use when Jewish children are among their victims: "The Jewish children will grow up to be adult Jews and they'll join the army and oppress/kill us, so it's okay to preemptively murder them as they're not really innocent."
And you know damn well the stalkers would be saying the guy represented every Muslim in the world and what a inhuman monster he was.
When its own of their own, he's a lone gunman and a freedom fighter.
He's your boy, guys. Own it.
Wrong tense. Remember Major Nidal Hasan at Fort Hood?
| 417 |
Varek Raith Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:25:04pm |
Endangered Species Act Restored In House Revolt By Democrats
By a 224-204 vote, Rep. Norm Dicks (D-WA) successfully led a revolt against the Republican leadership of the House of Representatives, stripping a provision in the FY 2012 Interior and Environment appropriations bill that would have blocked the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service from listing new species under the Endangered Species Act.
Good evening.
| 418 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:26:18pm |
re: #407 ggt
ah! electrically?
no, a small elephant appears to pull the staircase up...sort of like Tarzan
| 419 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:27:03pm |
re: #403 Thanos
Meanwhile, I find it both disgusting and disturbing that some lizards are still linking blogs that carry Atlas Shrugs in the sidebar here.
Geez, I hope it wasn't me. I don't often look at the "blogroll" on websites.
| 420 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:27:22pm |
re: #409 Sergey Romanov
It's a marker, you see someone loving Kahane (whose party was declared illegal in Israel), you expect a bunch of associated diseases.
Yeah. And we've had some Kahane-related issues here, although not so recently. Ploome was the test case for me--I started to realize where she was going, and I really was not sure yet if it was OK with the blog. And I figured if she was staying, I was leaving.
About an hour after that, Charles banned her behind.
| 421 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:27:59pm |
re: #411 SanFranciscoZionist
Liberals hate. Liberals want to destroy. Liberals are the enemy. These guys have said it so often, sooner or later they were going to start believing it.
IIRC, Violence in self-defense by an individual is only defensible against imminent danger to oneself, another human being or one's property (home or business).
At least that is what I was taught by my rwnj Dear Ole Dad.
The idea that one can preempt imminent danger is not a right we were granted by our Creator.
| 422 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:28:23pm |
re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth
Geez, I hope it wasn't me. I don't often look at the "blogroll" on websites.
I've only seen Atlas Shrugs on the sidebar of full on crazypants blogs, tho
| 423 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:29:02pm |
re: #418 albusteve
no, a small elephant appears to pull the staircase up...sort of like Tarzan
Is there room for a small elephant?
I know, he lives in the 'fridgerator. . . .
| 424 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:29:14pm |
re: #414 Slumbering Behemoth
Sorry EmmmieG, but it looks like I'll be hanging with Kirk after the apocalypse instead of you. :P
Oh, I can go even better. see, I don't like hops so I've experimented with other gruits. The usual response is two part: "Aaaargh no hops! wait, that's not bad..."
| 425 |
jvic Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:29:42pm |
re: #370 recusancy
The Atlantic's Megan McArdle:...doing the unpopular things required to get the budget in balance is going to require both parties to hold hands and jump together.
Hey! Another blind squirrel finds a nut. Good job Megan!
McArdle criticizes her own side and calls for bipartisanship. recusancy's response is Glad to hear somebody on the other side talking sense. Hey! Another blind squirrel finds a nut.
| 426 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:29:48pm |
re: #421 ggt
IIRC, Violence in self-defense by an individual is only defensible against imminent danger to oneself, another human being or one's property (home or business).
At least that is what I was taught by my rwnj Dear Ole Dad.
The idea that one can preempt imminent danger is not a right we were granted by our Creator.
If only Rumsfeld had listened to you.
| 427 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:29:50pm |
Wow, the mention of all the names of these former Lizards.
Brings back memories . . .
| 428 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:30:22pm |
re: #426 Decatur Deb
If only Rumsfeld had listened to you.
Not me, my Dear ole Dad.
And he was referring to individual citizen's rights.
Military, Government and War and an entirely different matter.
| 429 |
Randall Gross Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:30:27pm |
re: #419 Slumbering Behemoth
No, it wasn't you.
| 430 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:31:11pm |
re: #420 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah. And we've had some Kahane-related issues here, although not so recently. Ploome was the test case for me--I started to realize where she was going, and I really was not sure yet if it was OK with the blog. And I figured if she was staying, I was leaving.
About an hour after that, Charles banned her behind.
I remember that very well. I was right there. She sat there and tried to justify and voiced her agreement with Baruch Goldstein in murdering 29 Muslims.
| 431 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:31:46pm |
re: #418 albusteve
no, a small elephant appears to pull the staircase up...sort of like Tarzan
Actually, it looks like a cool place for a college student or other-wise young adult.
I don't think my knees would like the ladder to the sleeping area-especially at 3am.
| 432 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:31:55pm |
BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. -- A Berkeley County woman will get a jury trial for a ticket she was given by police after they say she displayed big plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck.
this from the gay pride capital of America?....hahaha!
Read more: [Link: www.wyff4.com...]
| 433 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:32:01pm |
re: #430 Gus 802
I remember that very well. I was right there. She sat there and tried to justify and voiced her agreement with Baruch Goldstein in murdering 29 Muslims.
classy
| 435 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:33:35pm |
re: #403 Thanos
I see sandmonkey removed her.
| 436 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:33:35pm |
re: #432 albusteve
BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. -- A Berkeley County woman will get a jury trial for a ticket she was given by police after they say she displayed big plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck.
this from the gay pride capital of America?...hahaha!
Read more: [Link: www.wyff4.com...]
ah, but they were red.
| 437 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:33:44pm |
re: #432 albusteve
BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. -- A Berkeley County woman will get a jury trial for a ticket she was given by police after they say she displayed big plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck.
this from the gay pride capital of America?...hahaha!
Read more: [Link: www.wyff4.com...]
Berkeley County, South Carolina, is the gay pride capital of America?
| 438 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:34:09pm |
re: #432 albusteve
BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. -- A Berkeley County woman will get a jury trial for a ticket she was given by police after they say she displayed big plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck.
this from the gay pride capital of America?...hahaha!
Read more: [Link: www.wyff4.com...]
That is going to make some people delirious over at Gawker.
| 439 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:34:21pm |
re: #429 Thanos
:Phwew!:
I've been feeling kind of sheepish ever since I linked what I thought was a reasonable talk on free speech, only to later find out the guy giving it was a plagiarizing, sockpuppeting, anti-semitic, douche bag of a journalist.
| 440 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:34:33pm |
re: #432 albusteve
BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. -- A Berkeley County woman will get a jury trial for a ticket she was given by police after they say she displayed big plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck.
this from the gay pride capital of America?...hahaha!
Read more: [Link: www.wyff4.com...]
SFZ caught this before I did :D
| 441 |
Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:35:03pm |
re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist
Berkeley County, South Carolina, is the gay pride capital of America?
Southern Capital...No, that would be New Orleans...
//
| 442 |
CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:35:53pm |
One good way to see who's linking to who is using Google's link: operator as it returns a list of pages that link to whatever. For example:
| 443 |
Randall Gross Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:36:06pm |
re: #435 Sergey Romanov
That's good. There are some bloggers in the Pro-Israel blogosphere so tightly tied to Kahanists and other funding sources that I really think it would take Pam marching in Manhattan in Nazi regalia for them to remove her from their blogrolls.
| 444 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:36:36pm |
re: #17 makeitstop
OT: The Teen Suicide Epidemic in Michele Bachmann's District
That's just sad.
A few people got very upset when I said this before but it bears repeating: sometimes, death is preferable to living under conservative parental regiemes.
| 445 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:36:39pm |
re: #441 rwdflynavy
Southern Capital...No, that would be New Orleans...
//
Southeastern Capital?...no. Atlanta.
| 446 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:37:28pm |
re: #403 Thanos
Meanwhile, I find it both disgusting and disturbing that some lizards are still linking blogs that carry Atlas Shrugs in the sidebar here.
I apologized on my page. I had not looked at the guy's blogroll; I found the info he posted interesting and otherwise reliable. An oversight, nothing more. I generally spend a lot of time searching for alternative sources on info I post; like the page I did on Higazi today. There are a bunch of stalkers who post about him, but I took the time to make sure I linked none of them. Heck, I would not even link a 2006 LGF page because of the comments.
| 447 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:38:10pm |
Smartphones are taking over people's lives as users 'obsessively' check their devices, scientists warn
a nation of fone drones
Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
| 448 |
The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:38:28pm |
re: #366 SanFranciscoZionist
They don't care. They see themselves as victims. Charges of bigotry, as far as they're concerned, are just distractions from the real issue at hand--how oppressed and endangered they are.
Inside their heads it's always eminent threat and self defense; even when it makes no sense to anyone else. No matter how atrocious, how low, how cruel, they're entitled to inflict pain and violation because they feel attacked. Even as they rape women and kill children. It's pure revanchist sentiment.
| 449 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:38:32pm |
Speaking of culls, one of the biggest disappointments for me was Ali Sina. Around 2003 or so I was reading his FaithFreedom materials with great interest (me being an anti-religious rationalist and all that), and I wasn't alone - Dawkins recommended the site in his book. I don't know at what point he stopped with the purely rationalist critique of Islamic tradition and went full bigot, but as a bigot he is extremely extreme.
| 450 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:38:36pm |
re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist
Berkeley County, South Carolina, is the gay pride capital of America?
Really. Berkeley, CA isn't even the "gay pride capital of America".
What a stupid comment /rotfl@
| 451 |
wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:38:37pm |
re: #442 CuriousLurker
One good way to see who's linking to who is using Google's link: operator as it returns a list of pages that link to whatever. For example:
Cool tool.
Oh, look. It's Breitfart's Big Blogs at the top of the list.
| 452 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:39:24pm |
re: #437 SanFranciscoZionist
Berkeley County, South Carolina, is the gay pride capital of America?
doh!....my bad
(these are not considered serious posts)
| 453 |
Randall Gross Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:39:34pm |
re: #446 imp_62
He's not a terrible guy, he's just fervent. I think he's taken a few swipes at Charles since getting banned here iiirc.
| 454 |
wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:39:34pm |
re: #446 imp_62
I apologized on my page. I had not looked at the guy's blogroll; I found the info he posted interesting and otherwise reliable. An oversight, nothing more. I generally spend a lot of time searching for alternative sources on info I post; like the page I did on Higazi today. There are a bunch of stalkers who post about him, but I took the time to make sure I linked none of them. Heck, I would not even link a 2006 LGF page because of the comments.
Carl in Jerusalem himself has been banned from here.
| 455 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:40:11pm |
re: #451 wrenchwench
Cool tool.
Oh, look. It's Breitfart's Big Blogs at the top of the list.
But wired.com is within the top few linkers, as well. the link tool is just a filter.
| 456 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:40:21pm |
re: #445 Decatur Deb
Southeastern Capital?...no. Atlanta.
Atlanta is even gayer than San Francisco. Well at least for us black Queers.
| 457 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:40:56pm |
re: #450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Really. Berkeley, CA isn't even the "gay pride capital of America".
What a stupid comment /rotfl@
gives you something to bitch about for 200 posts...thank me later
| 458 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:40:59pm |
re: #447 albusteve
Smartphones are taking over people's lives as users 'obsessively' check their devices, scientists warn
a nation of fone drones
Read more: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
I still don't own a cell phone, it's glorious
| 459 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:41:10pm |
re: #452 albusteve
doh!...my bad
(these are not considered serious posts)
'S OK. It's sort of the gay palmetto capital, then.
| 460 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:42:44pm |
re: #453 Thanos
re: #453 Thanos
Part of it is that I am not really up on all the lgf history. I don't have the mental capacity to keep track of soem of the "dos and dont's". For what it is worth, I generally am not here to be antagonistic. If I am trying to inflame, it will be far more obvious than linking a blog who links Geller ;]
| 461 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:43:05pm |
re: #444 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
A few people got very upset when I said this before but it bears repeating: sometimes, death is preferable to living under conservative parental regiemes.
Hey, I agree.
Slavery is not an option.
| 462 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:44:21pm |
I dig the internet. I learn something new everyday. I suspect that's why I've gotten better at answering "Jeopardy" questions.
/I still totally fuck up the "What/Who/Where is..." part, though.
| 463 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:44:30pm |
re: #450 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Really. Berkeley, CA isn't even the "gay pride capital of America".
What a stupid comment /rotfl@
I thought it might be a searingly dry commentary on something I missed.
| 464 |
CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:45:56pm |
re: #451 wrenchwench
Cool tool.
Oh, look. It's Breitfart's Big Blogs at the top of the list.
Yep, it's interesting to see who's connected.
Doing something like this will help you find stuff too, if you're curious about a person and you want to see if they're connected to one or more wingnut sites:
site:wingnuts-site.com "john doe"
If the name is mentioned on the site, it'll come up in the results.
| 465 |
zora Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:46:14pm |
re: #425 jvic
she's wrong most of the time. i've often wondered if she is related to someone at the atlantic. she has a logic deficiency.
| 466 |
darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:46:44pm |
re: #462 Slumbering Behemoth
I dig the internet. I learn something new everyday. I suspect that's why I've gotten better at answering "Jeopardy" questions.
/I still totally fuck up the "What/Who/Where is..." part, though.
Number 6 is a tough one.
| 467 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:46:53pm |
re: #458 WindUpBird
I still don't own a cell phone, it's glorious
When wife and I had separate minute-charging plans, I would let my teeny-bopper have my phone the last couple days of the month to burn up the unused credit. One month she got everything but 9 minutes.
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shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:46:54pm |
re: #464 CuriousLurker
Yep, it's interesting to see who's connected.
Doing something like this will help you find stuff too, if you're curious about a person and you want to see if they're connected to one or more wingnut sites:
site:wingnuts-site.com "john doe"
If the name is mentioned on the site, it'll come up in the results.
You are SUCH a tool! :p
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:47:07pm |
re: #466 darthstar
Number 6 is a tough one.
#6. Do not allow yourself to become a stupid drunk and set a bad example for locals' treatment of other hobos.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:47:09pm |
re: #455 imp_62
But wired.com is within the top few linkers, as well. the link tool is just a filter.
True, but it's a good starting point if you know what you're looking for.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:47:11pm |
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:47:56pm |
re: #432 albusteve
BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. -- A Berkeley County woman will get a jury trial for a ticket she was given by police after they say she displayed big plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck.
this from the gay pride capital of America?...hahaha!
Read more: [Link: www.wyff4.com...]
South Carolina has the Gay Pride capitol?
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:48:02pm |
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:48:26pm |
re: #318 wrenchwench
Anyone who has not read oslogin's most recent post (in English) should rectify that right now.
Missing this "gem".
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zora Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:48:51pm |
re: #432 albusteve
BERKELEY COUNTY, S.C. -- A Berkeley County woman will get a jury trial for a ticket she was given by police after they say she displayed big plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck.
this from the gay pride capital of America?...hahaha!
Read more: [Link: www.wyff4.com...]
i wish everyone got ticketed for truck nuts.
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Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:48:53pm |
And today's "Captain Obvious" award goes to Mitch McConnell, for finally saying something that pundits have been predicting for weeks:
As debt-ceiling crisis grows, McConnell warns default could 'destroy' GOP
Reporting from Washington —
As negotiators reconvened at the White House on Wednesday for another round of debt talks, House Republicans appeared to dig in even deeper in their resistance to any sort of deal to raise the federal debt ceiling even as one party leader foretold disaster for the GOP if its members failed to act.Mitch McConnell, the Senate minority leader who has proposed a fallback plan that would likely ensure the $14.3-trillion debt limit would be raised, said in a radio interview that a default by the United States could critically damage his party heading into the 2012 elections.
A default, McConnell told talk show host Laura Ingraham, “destroys your brand.”
The Kentucky senator said the economic consequences of a default would give President Obama an opportunity to blame the GOP for the country’s economic straits. “Look, he owns the economy,” McConnell said. “He’s been in office for three years. We refuse to let him entice him into co-ownership of a bad economy.”
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:49:49pm |
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CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:50:11pm |
Uh-uh, incoming request from the boss. Gotta run.
Someone remind later me to do a Google/research tools post one of these days. BBL
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:50:14pm |
re: #457 albusteve
gives you something to bitch about for 200 posts...thank me later
Collecting ridiculous knee-jerk reactions about "the bay area" is a hobby of mine.
Think, then post. Or don't, and deal with 200 posts. These things happen on the internet.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:51:04pm |
re: #444 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
A few people got very upset when I said this before but it bears repeating: sometimes, death is preferable to living under conservative parental regiemes.
Everything seems bigger when you're a kid. I had a couple of friends kill themselves when I was a teenager, and I've spent a lot of hours since then wondering what they would have accomplished had they held on just long enough to get through one problem.
But people like Michele and Marcus Bachmann foster the environment that makes these kids think that killing themselves is the only way out.
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zora Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:51:30pm |
re: #444 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
A few people got very upset when I said this before but it bears repeating: sometimes, death is preferable to living under conservative parental regiemes.
sounds like the caption for an "it won't get better, kill yourself" campaign. it really doesn't bear repeating.
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Randall Gross Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:51:39pm |
re: #460 imp_62
re: #453 Thanos
Part of it is that I am not really up on all the lgf history. I don't have the mental capacity to keep track of soem of the "dos and dont's". For what it is worth, I generally am not here to be antagonistic. If I am trying to inflame, it will be far more obvious than linking a blog who links Geller ;]
It's pretty hard to stay up with it, I'm not making it personal against you friend.
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shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:52:37pm |
re: #482 Thanos
It's pretty hard to stay up with it, I'm not making it personal against you friend.
Oh, I know. I appreciated the tip-off.
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albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:53:25pm |
re: #479 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Collecting ridiculous knee-jerk reactions about "the bay area" is a hobby of mine.
Think, then post. Or don't, and deal with 200 posts. These things happen on the internet.
makes zero difference to me...I just look for silly stories
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:53:27pm |
re: #479 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Collecting ridiculous knee-jerk reactions about "the bay area" is a hobby of mine.
You should have been here years ago. We had some real live ones back in the day.
Some dude called 'log boy', IIRC, basically told me I was a worthless human being because I came from Nancy Pelosi's city.
Then again, they weren't all picky about the Bay Area, it was just liberals in general. My favorite one was the guy who was apparently honestly amazed that I worked two jobs, because he sincerely thought that liberals didn't work.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:53:33pm |
re: #474 000G
Missing this "gem".
I have a hard time with the concept that an individual believes he can declare war. That is something reserved for nations and kings.
An individual could, I guess, declare a feud.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:53:47pm |
re: #476 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And today's "Captain Obvious" award goes to Mitch McConnell, for finally saying something that pundits have been predicting for weeks:
As debt-ceiling crisis grows, McConnell warns default could 'destroy' GOP
Tried to tell them that about their precious tea party. But do they listen? Bunch of grifters.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:54:22pm |
re: #480 makeitstop
Everything seems bigger when you're a kid. I had a couple of friends kill themselves when I was a teenager, and I've spent a lot of hours since then wondering what they would have accomplished had they held on just long enough to get through one problem.
But people like Michele and Marcus Bachmann foster the environment that makes these kids think that killing themselves is the only way out.
All things considered, Greyhound is better than Smith&Wesson.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:55:03pm |
re: #488 Decatur Deb
All things considered, Greyhound is better than Smith&Wesson.
There are any number of competent adults who leave town and never look back.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:55:06pm |
re: #486 ggt
I have a hard time with the concept that an individual believes he can declare war. That is something reserved for nations and kings.
An individual could, I guess, declare a feud.
Not that funny is really appropriate, but I do recall that one of Terry Pratchett's characters explains the difference between a fight, a feud, and a war.
A fight is over what they said about our Sharon.
A feud is over what their great-granddad said about our Sharon.
A war is over what their crown prince said about our Sharon.
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shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:55:11pm |
True confessions time: I am actually almost looking forward to downgrade of the US sovereign debt rating (even if there is no default, a failure to raise the debt ceiling will lead to a downgrade). It is the financial markets equivalent of being able to observe the formation of a black hole. Sure, it might be deadly, but it really is fascinating and hey, you only live once.
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:55:13pm |
re: #464 CuriousLurker
Yep, it's interesting to see who's connected.
Doing something like this will help you find stuff too, if you're curious about a person and you want to see if they're connected to one or more wingnut sites:
site:wingnuts-site.com "john doe"
If the name is mentioned on the site, it'll come up in the results.
Cool! I found the post that got me banned from RedState back in 2005 (I think I lasted three days)...I still don't know why I was banned...I didn't even say the words 'fuck', 'shit', or 'asshole'...so I was well within their standards of blogger conduct.
He's got a point ((ducks))... by darthstar
All political blogs have a specific purpose...to express one side over another. And recent news stories about high-level republicans and their business associates (Abramoff, Scanlon, DeLay, Frist, Libby, Cheney, etc...)have added a bit of tarnish to the GOP's shining image. Granted, the democrats have had their share of scandals...we can all remember the stories of Monica deep-throating Bill Clinton's throbbing, rock-hard penis while he spoke on the phone in the Oval(or was it oral?) Office, ultimately causing him to shoot his load all over her blue dress...shameful that was, just shameful. I myself was appalled that he lied about such a significant event with those eight words, "I did not have sex with that woman." The truth would have been much easier, avoided an embarrassing impeachment which made the congress look as soiled as Monica's dress by the end of it, as most Americans (at least most that I know) had the attitude of, 'all this for a blowjob?' and the truth would have only taken three words to convey, "She blew me."
Anyway, my point is, both parties have their respective stains they must bear and sometimes the truth just isn't that easy to swallow.
Let us hope that people like the good Mr. Claypool above eventually learn that, just because a half-dozen or so top-level officials happen to be involved in criminal or nefarious conduct investigations, it doesn't mean the entire party is corrupt...or even, for that matter, that the entire administration is corrupt. It just means we need to look further to find the silver lining that has to exist somewhere on the cloud.
On the internet, everything is forever.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:56:05pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:56:08pm |
re: #481 zora
sounds like the caption for an "it won't get better, kill yourself" campaign.
It isn't, because there is no such campaign. But to me, there's no reason to wonder about that stat, because a lot of people have been there.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:56:25pm |
re: #488 Decatur Deb
All things considered, Greyhound is better than Smith&Wesson.
problem of course is greyhouse-to-homeless
a lot of gay teens end up homeless, fleeing awful families
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:56:36pm |
re: #495 WindUpBird
greyhouse? greyhound :P
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:56:53pm |
re: #476 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And today's "Captain Obvious" award goes to Mitch McConnell, for finally saying something that pundits have been predicting for weeks:
As debt-ceiling crisis grows, McConnell warns default could 'destroy' GOP
Another one with a moment of clarity.
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makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:57:28pm |
re: #497 Gus 802
Another one with a moment of clarity.
...which will make not a single dent in the Wall Of Crazy.
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shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:57:31pm |
re: #486 ggt
I have a hard time with the concept that an individual believes he can declare war. That is something reserved for nations and kings.
An individual could, I guess, declare a feud.
The only thing an individual can declare is that Mr. Beauregard is his or her hero.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:57:32pm |
re: #491 imp_62
True confessions time: I am actually almost looking forward to downgrade of the US sovereign debt rating (even if there is no default, a failure to raise the debt ceiling will lead to a downgrade). It is the financial markets equivalent of being able to observe the formation of a black hole. Sure, it might be deadly, but it really is fascinating and hey, you only live once.
You would make a piss-poor volcanologist.
| 501 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:57:54pm |
Times Square 'weed man' files lawsuit for his right to beg for marijuana money
"Though the First Amendment protects Mr. Long's right to stand on the sidewalk with his sign, he has been, and continues to be, regularly and wrongfully, arrested, charged and harassed by police officers," the suit says.
Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:10pm |
re: #495 WindUpBird
problem of course is greyhouse-to-homeless
a lot of gay teens end up homeless, fleeing awful families
Homeless is better than dead, although one can lead to the other.
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Varek Raith Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:15pm |
re: #501 albusteve
Times Square 'weed man' files lawsuit for his right to beg for marijuana money
"Though the First Amendment protects Mr. Long's right to stand on the sidewalk with his sign, he has been, and continues to be, regularly and wrongfully, arrested, charged and harassed by police officers," the suit says.Read more: [Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
Heh.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:20pm |
re: #480 makeitstop
But people like Michele and Marcus Bachmann foster the environment that makes these kids think that killing themselves is the only way out.
That, they do. Old cliche rings true: misery loves company.
It would be one thing if it were just the Bachmanns, but...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:20pm |
re: #488 Decatur Deb
All things considered, Greyhound is better than Smith&Wesson.
When someone in authority tells you that you are going to Hell, and your little grey cells are completely formed --what do you think is going to happen?
IMHO, most teenagers aren't mature enough or brave enough to cut and run. They take the only option their immature brains can see --drugs or suicide or both.
Their choices are logical if not mature. It's the adults that can't see what they do with their words.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:31pm |
re: #462 Slumbering Behemoth
I dig the internet. I learn something new everyday. I suspect that's why I've gotten better at answering "Jeopardy" questions.
/I still totally fuck up the "What/Who/Where is..." part, though.
That's your problem, you are supposed to ask the question after Alex gives you the answer!!!
//re: #491 imp_62
True confessions time: I am actually almost looking forward to downgrade of the US sovereign debt rating (even if there is no default, a failure to raise the debt ceiling will lead to a downgrade). It is the financial markets equivalent of being able to observe the formation of a black hole. Sure, it might be deadly, but it really is fascinating and hey, you only live once.
Clark Howard doesn't think it is a big deal.
[Link: www.wokv.com...]
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:34pm |
re: #375 ProLifeLiberal
He is the cone of uncertanity for TS Don.
Comments from our resident Texans?
We need the rain. Badly. How sad is that?
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:35pm |
re: #476 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
And today's "Captain Obvious" award goes to Mitch McConnell, for finally saying something that pundits have been predicting for weeks:
As debt-ceiling crisis grows, McConnell warns default could 'destroy' GOP
It's a little late to start worrying about your party's image, Mitch. The whole country's been watching you guys try to bang the girl scout for months...too late to pretend you give a shit about this country.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:45pm |
re: #491 imp_62
True confessions time: I am actually almost looking forward to downgrade of the US sovereign debt rating (even if there is no default, a failure to raise the debt ceiling will lead to a downgrade). It is the financial markets equivalent of being able to observe the formation of a black hole. Sure, it might be deadly, but it really is fascinating and hey, you only live once.
Gladys, bring the margaritas, America's about to default! Come watch!
| 511 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:58:59pm |
re: #498 makeitstop
...which will make not a single dent in the Wall Of Crazy.
Not a bit. Their response will be "then we got to get rid of that RINO McConnell!!11ty" LOL
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:59:21pm |
re: #495 WindUpBird
problem of course is greyhouse-to-homeless
a lot of gay teens end up homeless, fleeing awful families
True dat, but it can continue the adventure, and in the very worst cases you can always kill yourself later.
| 513 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:59:32pm |
re: #503 wrenchwench
Homeless is better than dead, although one can lead to the other.
it is! Certainly I'd choose it, but it also requires the foresight and self-confidence to leave the (albiet terrible) home you've always known, etc
| 514 |
Achilles Tang Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:59:49pm |
re: #326 SanFranciscoZionist
I really haven't found a good source of comparative information about US and European immigration, and how it's going, and why, and who's involved, and how many illegal as opposed to legal immigrants there are. I know that the situation is quite different, as is the approach.
I believe that this discussion was started with reference to Middle Eastern and North African immigrants in Europe versus the US, given the primary topic of discussion at hand.
I don't either have statistics on what the relative percentages of professionals versus unskilled immigrants are, but I have some feedback from Europe and some direct experiences in France and Scandinavia.
My comments are impressions, but I will be happy to be corrected if there are other issues that are dominant.
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AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:59:55pm |
re: #501 albusteve
It's okay to go on TV and ask for money to save souls only to then blow it on drugs and prostitutes, at least this guy is being honest about his intentions...
| 516 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Jul 27, 2011 2:59:56pm |
re: #512 Decatur Deb
True dat, but it can continue the adventure, and in the very worst cases you can always kill yourself later.
this is why you rock :D
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wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:00:09pm |
re: #513 WindUpBird
it is! Certainly I'd choose it, but it also requires the foresight and self-confidence to leave the (albiet terrible) home you've always known, etc
We need to create a culture of runaways....
| 519 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:00:21pm |
Lizards, tell me one thing. Is Ron Paul a tea party darling? I know it started with him, but what now?
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shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:00:26pm |
re: #507 rwdflynavy
"I've got to congratulate Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI), because he's the only one, other than Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK), who have actually said this is the real deal. We have to choose -- do we want the government to provide these things for us? If we do, it's going to cost this much. Here's an alternative plan where the government doesn't provide these things."
Sounds like a real genius.
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Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:01:19pm |
re: #376 ggt
How is the afternoon going everyone?
I actually accomplished something while I was gone.
what did you do?
I'm distilling the last few weeks of my life as an intern into a portfolio. I've printed out 50+ pages worth of Excel spreadsheets and work and I'm nowhere near done yet.
| 522 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:01:28pm |
re: #494 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It isn't, because there is no such campaign. But to me, there's no reason to wonder about that stat, because a lot of people have been there.
you've been dead before?....when you say death is preferable to something else, I have to wonder how you'd know that....the human instinct to survive can be extremely powerful
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:01:38pm |
re: #495 WindUpBird
problem of course is greyhouse-to-homeless
a lot of gay teens end up homeless, fleeing awful families
Fleeing, and also getting thrown out. Gay teens and a lot of other teens, too.
For all their loud blather about "strong families", social/cultural conservatives can end up destroying their own. Ask Maya Keyes.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:01:39pm |
re: #486 ggt
I have a hard time with the concept that an individual believes he can declare war. That is something reserved for nations and kings.
It is reserved for sovereigns or their legal representatives (e.g. governments of, for and by the people). Which gives one a little bit to think about why sovereign citizens call themselves that.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:02:05pm |
re: #512 Decatur Deb
True dat, but it can continue the adventure, and in the very worst cases you can always kill yourself later.
Old Yiddish proverb: Your health comes first. You can always hang yourself later.
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:02:09pm |
re: #519 Sergey Romanov
Lizards, tell me one thing. Is Ron Paul a tea party darling? I know it started with him, but what now?
I think or Ron Paul as patient zero of the Tea Party movement.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:02:22pm |
re: #522 albusteve
you've been dead before?...when you say death is preferable to something else, I have to wonder how you'd know that...the human instinct to survive can be extremely powerful
Gives you an idea of what a bad place these kids are in . . . .
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:02:57pm |
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shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:03:02pm |
re: #510 WindUpBird
Gladys, bring the margaritas, America's about to default! Come watch!
I work from home. I also like to wander around my yard carrying a glass of wine. When my wife arrives home (generally by bike), I like to wave my glass around and yell out "Hello Lovey". When I grow up, I am going to be Thurston Howell III.
| 530 |
Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:03:03pm |
re: #368 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
He dressed as a cop, hunted down and killed kids trapped on an island.
There are no buts, maybe, have to wonders, had a point, had it coming, or any other justification. If you think there is, you're a worthless piece of shit.
There aren't enough updings on the internet.
Absolute fucking truth. If you have to make any kind of caveat about this guy, then fuck off. I don't want to know you.
| 531 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:03:12pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:03:26pm |
re: #526 Gus 802
I think or Ron Paul as patient zero of the Tea Party movement.
I thought they'd moved on to Rand.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:03:48pm |
re: #512 Decatur Deb
True dat, but it can continue the adventure, and in the very worst cases you can always kill yourself later.
Or, socon/culture war parents can just quit making their families miserable. That's the best option but I don't expect the perps to ever take it.
| 534 |
Varek Raith Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:04:06pm |
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Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:04:15pm |
re: #532 ggt
I thought they'd moved on to Rand.
Nah. I think it would have to be Allen West. Definitely.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:04:24pm |
re: #488 Decatur Deb
All things considered, Greyhound is better than Smith&Wesson.
You try riding 600 miles in one of those things right next to the shitter, then see how you feel about that.
/
| 537 |
Randall Gross Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:05:23pm |
re: #519 Sergey Romanov
They still love him & his son. The whole "audit the Fed" thing is his for instance.
| 538 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:05:38pm |
re: #530 Lidane
There aren't enough updings on the internet.
Absolute fucking truth. If you have to make any kind of caveat about this guy, then fuck off. I don't want to know you.
I am in this group...he want's his ideology to become the focus of this bloodbath..I deny him that in my own army of one way
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:05:56pm |
re: #513 WindUpBird
it is! Certainly I'd choose it, but it also requires the foresight and self-confidence to leave the (albiet terrible) home you've always known, etc
Some kids have the skills to make it work.
Some are desperate enough to try anyway.
And some figure out how to get to grown and bail legally.
College friend of mine got kicked out of the house when she came out, and managed to get herself to San Francisco, where she not only found actual work, (Mrs. Fields, rather than turning tricks), she managed to get herself a GED and into a private college.
The only problem was that the moron financial aid people did not believe that she'd been kicked out, and apparently were entirely comfortable with the idea that a person might claim to have been thrown out of the house by their homophobic parents merely to get said parents out of paying their share of the college expenses.
IIRC, she called the sheriff of her little Nebraska town, who contacted the financial aid people and assured them that her version was indeed accurate.
They didn't believe him.
I think she got the aid in the end, but it was pretty tragically wondrously funny in the meantime.
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shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:06:00pm |
re: #536 negativ
You try riding 600 miles in one of those things right next to the shitter, then see how you feel about that.
/
I used to do a LOT of travel by Greyhound. I can still smell it in my 'mind's nose" 25 years later. It took days to get it out of my clothes (mainly cuz my idea of doing laundry was to pay things out until I needed them again).
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:06:15pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:06:33pm |
re: #536 negativ
You try riding 600 miles in one of those things right next to the shitter, then see how you feel about that.
/
I freakn' love Greyhound. I've counted a lot of cars on the New Jersey Turnpike.
| 543 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:06:34pm |
re: #514 Naso Tang
I believe that this discussion was started with reference to Middle Eastern and North African immigrants in Europe versus the US, given the primary topic of discussion at hand.
I don't either have statistics on what the relative percentages of professionals versus unskilled immigrants are, but I have some feedback from Europe and some direct experiences in France and Scandinavia.
My comments are impressions, but I will be happy to be corrected if there are other issues that are dominant.
OK, but since you mentioned 'other than from Latin America', I thought we were opening the floor.
| 544 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:07:16pm |
re: #519 Sergey Romanov
Lizards, tell me one thing. Is Ron Paul a tea party darling? I know it started with him, but what now?
I don't understand how Ron Paul works.
| 545 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:07:24pm |
re: #531 Decatur Deb
I could be their king.
Jewel gave testimony to the House (?senate) a while back. The homeless kid situation is horrible. I think I was most affected by the vunerability of these kids. When asked if she or anyone she knew ever sought social services, she said NO, they had no experience with trust-worthy adults and assumed any adult showing interest wanted sex.
| 546 |
Varek Raith Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:07:24pm |
re: #542 Decatur Deb
I freakn' love Greyhound. I've counted a lot of cars on the New Jersey Turnpike.
Grrr, I freaking hate the Turnpike.
| 547 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:07:25pm |
re: #519 Sergey Romanov
Lizards, tell me one thing. Is Ron Paul a tea party darling? I know it started with him, but what now?
"It" did not "start with him". He and his followers who are a subset of the tea party love to claim that, but the Tea Party of 2009ff, the movement that actually got coverage and persists to be dominant today is not primarily Paulian. I think this might have been in the beginning due to mainstream conservatives and former Bush supporters taking over, but I think that today it's more because Ron Paul's special brand of paleoconservative libertarianism is too complex of an ideology. The average Tea Partier, in my opinion, just likes right-wing firebreaths like Palin, Bachmann, McCain or even Rand Paul, who are more about anti-government polemics than anti-government philosophy.
| 548 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:07:51pm |
re: #542 Decatur Deb
I freakn' love Greyhound. I've counted a lot of cars on the New Jersey Turnpike.
I think the man in the gabardine suit is a spy.
| 549 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:08:24pm |
| 550 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:08:34pm |
re: #544 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't understand how Ron Paul works.
The Fed. Gold goes in, Dollar come out. You can't explain that.
| 551 |
Lidane Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:08:37pm |
re: #544 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't understand how Ron Paul works.
I don't think anyone understands how Luap Nor works, except maybe Alex Jones.
| 552 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:08:50pm |
re: #521 Lidane
I'm distilling the last few weeks of my life as an intern into a portfolio. I've printed out 50+ pages worth of Excel spreadsheets and work and I'm nowhere near done yet.
I'm evaluating 27 children.
| 553 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:08:59pm |
The GOP in the House almost got their act together for a while this morning. Then I think they realized that they were nearly acting sane and didn't like it.
Conservatives Renew Campaign Against Boehner Debt Limit Plan
Like I said, the Wall Of Crazy remains undented.
| 554 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:09:21pm |
re: #546 Varek Raith
Grrr, I freaking hate the Turnpike.
I saw a Greyhound bus while driving to California. While I was passing it from a long distance away I kept squinting and thinking to myself "what is this ugly old decrepit looking bus?" Finally when I caught up I realized it was a Greyhound. Damn, the thing looked like crap.
| 555 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:09:29pm |
re: #544 SanFranciscoZionist
Aha! You can't explain that.
| 556 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:09:29pm |
re: #538 albusteve
I am in this group...he want's his ideology to become the focus of this bloodbath..I deny him that in my own army of one way
His ideology -- or at least what he plagiarized and copy/pasted from others -- isn't that much different than the average dumb American bigot, butthurt by Civil Rights. The rhetoric is identical, and swiped from our own homegrown pitchfork cons.
| 557 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:09:47pm |
| 558 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:10:01pm |
re: #544 SanFranciscoZionist
I don't understand how Ron Paul works.
He gets up every morning, gets dressed, eats his Wheaties and then drives to the office . . .
| 561 |
darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:10:35pm |
Listening to Al Sharpton's show on sirius (MSNBC)...he just had some teabagger on and told him that Boehner and company are basically telling the teabaggers: "You did your job, you protected corporate jet owners, now shut up and do what we tell you."
The teabagger was unfazed (Judson Philips)...he said they'd win bigger in 2012. facepalm
| 562 |
Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:11:04pm |
| 563 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:11:10pm |
| 564 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:11:17pm |
re: #560 Gus 802
Fucking tides, how do they work?
| 565 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:11:46pm |
Such digital messages can act as a salve to counteract the ills of modern life. However, in some cases, when applied too frequently, that salve can be more irritating than soothing.
interesting...digital dope...looks like my addiction angle is getting some legs
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
| 566 |
Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:11:48pm |
| 567 |
Varek Raith Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:11:59pm |
| 568 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:12:02pm |
Speaking of the devil(s).
rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch
Round-up: Bachmann to address Florida Religious Right group and Allen West combats Sharia "threat" [Link: bit.ly...]
| 569 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:12:14pm |
re: #547 000G
By the way, the reason why Ron Paul supporters haven't taken over the main Tea Party is easy: The average Ron Paul supporter is a rabid hater of neoconservatives or whomever can be pegged as one (which is pretty much everyone but the paleoconservative/neoconfederate libertarians). Remember the "show me the shekels" guy heckling Cheney at CPAC.
| 570 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:12:23pm |
| 571 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:12:45pm |
re: #555 Sergey Romanov
Aha! You can't explain that.
I can't. I don't know if my inability to explain Ron Paul is on account of ignorance, or if it proves the existence of God, or what, but I can't explain that.
| 573 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:13:09pm |
re: #546 Varek Raith
Grrr, I freaking hate the Turnpike.
a commie idea...we are all going to the same few places
| 574 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:13:51pm |
re: #572 Gus 802
*puff* *cough* *spit*
| 575 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:13:52pm |
re: #539 SanFranciscoZionist
Some kids have the skills to make it work.
Some are desperate enough to try anyway.
And some figure out how to get to grown and bail legally.
College friend of mine got kicked out of the house when she came out, and managed to get herself to San Francisco, where she not only found actual work, (Mrs. Fields, rather than turning tricks), she managed to get herself a GED and into a private college.
The only problem was that the moron financial aid people did not believe that she'd been kicked out, and apparently were entirely comfortable with the idea that a person might claim to have been thrown out of the house by their homophobic parents merely to get said parents out of paying their share of the college expenses.
IIRC, she called the sheriff of her little Nebraska town, who contacted the financial aid people and assured them that her version was indeed accurate.
They didn't believe him.
I think she got the aid in the end, but it was pretty tragically wondrously funny in the meantime.
I dealt with something quite similar, except it was transferring out of Bigotstan U. to UC system. But I did not tell them the reason, just that I was "independent". Took me a year and a lot of needless shyt, but it happened.
Funny/absurd/nauseating story: person I was with at the time's mother was an admissions counselor for a Cal State and when she "heard" (only the half story) she was going to try and help. Then we told her the full story, lol that offer was rescinded, pronto.
| 576 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:14:02pm |
| 577 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:14:04pm |
re: #561 darthstar
Listening to Al Sharpton's show on sirius (MSNBC)...he just had some teabagger on and told him that Boehner and company are basically telling the teabaggers: "You did your job, you protected corporate jet owners, now shut up and do what we tell you."
The teabagger was unfazed (Judson Philips)...he said they'd win bigger in 2012. facepalm
And I'm sure they truly believe that. They seem to be running under the mindset that they can just keep blaming Obama for everything and it'll work in their favor. That America can default and they'll look like the heroes for not giving him the ceiling increase that would have avoided it.
Remember thinking all those months back that we'd never go the way of Greece. Now, I'm not so sure anymore.
| 578 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:14:36pm |
re: #574 Sergey Romanov
*puff* *cough* *spit*
Coughing? Why are you coughing? You shouldn't be coughing. It's medicinal.
//
| 579 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:14:48pm |
re: #556 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
His ideology -- or at least what he plagiarized and copy/pasted from others -- isn't that much different than the average dumb American bigot, butthurt by Civil Rights. The rhetoric is identical, and swiped from our own homegrown pitchfork cons.
don't care about them...that's another story
| 580 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:15:10pm |
re: #576 ggt
It's been 10 YEARS SINCE 9/11.
THERE IS NO SHARIA THREAT!
You know, "Sharia Threat" would be a great name either for a rock band or a martini.
| 581 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:15:14pm |
re: #552 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm evaluating 27 children.
Every time I see "27" I think of Alouette, now. :) She posted pics of the little one earlier. In stripes! Adorable.
| 583 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:15:30pm |
re: #578 Gus 802
Coughing? Why are you coughing? You shouldn't be coughing. It's medicinal.
//
'ere try sumoor . .
| 584 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:15:52pm |
re: #580 imp_62
You know, "Sharia Threat" would be a great name either for a rock band or a martini.
Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream
| 585 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:16:15pm |
re: #578 Gus 802
Coughing? Why are you coughing? You shouldn't be coughing. It's medicinal.
//
I take a couple uppers
I down a couple downers
But nothing compares
To these blue and yellow purple pills
I've been to mushroom mountain
Once or twice but who's countin'
But nothing compares
To these blue and yellow purple pills
| 586 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:16:25pm |
| 587 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:16:41pm |
re: #579 albusteve
don't care about them...that's another story
It's a major, inescapable part of the story. But I didn't post it in hopes you would suddenly start caring.
| 588 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:16:46pm |
re: #559 imp_62
Are they Michele Bachmann's?
Thank God, no, since statistically speaking, two or three of them are gay.
(Related story, I once told a bunch of eighth grade boys that one of the reasons I didn't want them using homophobic slurs in class was that, statistically speaking, there were three gay students in our class. One kid's eyes get big, and he says, "Really? WHO????"
Another kid says, "GOD you're dumb. She said 'statistically'.")
On another topic, my mother heard that Alouette has a twenty-seventh grandchild. She says that she has resigned herself to the fact that the only way she and my father will catch up is if my husband and I go to a Romanian orphanage and say "We'll take 'em all."
| 589 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:17:05pm |
re: #585 Sergey Romanov
I take a couple uppers
I down a couple downers
But nothing compares
To these blue and yellow purple pills
I've been to mushroom mountain
Once or twice but who's countin'
But nothing compares
To these blue and yellow purple pills
I'd put a refernce to the Matrix in here, but I can't ever remember which pills do nothing.
except that the one's that mother gives you . . .
| 590 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:17:13pm |
| 592 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:18:09pm |
re: #561 darthstar
Listening to Al Sharpton's show on sirius (MSNBC)...he just had some teabagger on and told him that Boehner and company are basically telling the teabaggers: "You did your job, you protected corporate jet owners, now shut up and do what we tell you."
The teabagger was unfazed (Judson Philips)...he said they'd win bigger in 2012. facepalm
Lol Judson Phillips.
What in the world is Judson Phillips good for, except a laugh?
| 593 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:18:14pm |
re: #582 Gus 802
Gus_802 admits to smoking medicinal marijuana.
//Derp
I smoke it so I don't rage at the all the stupid posts here...
| 594 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:18:23pm |
re: #580 imp_62
You know, "Sharia Threat" would be a great name either for a rock band or a martini.
There's a group of belly dancers in my area who call themselves 'The Veiled Threats'.
| 595 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:18:32pm |
ShariaShariaShariaShariaShariaSharia
I am not crazy!I am not crazy!I am not crazy!I am not crazy!
| 596 |
darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:18:32pm |
Don't mock the tea party! They rallied against Boehner!
Image: Washington-Tea-Party-Rally-cropped-proto-custom_2.jpg
| 597 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:18:58pm |
re: #593 albusteve
I smoke it so I don't rage at the all the stupid posts here...
Sit down this instant!
//
| 598 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:19:21pm |
re: #596 darthstar
Don't mock the tea party! They rallied against Boehner!
Image: Washington-Tea-Party-Rally-cropped-proto-custom_2. jpg
Fail!
| 599 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:19:23pm |
re: #587 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It's a major, inescapable part of the story. But I didn't post it in hopes you would suddenly start caring.
you think you are slick assuming what people are thinking?....LOL!...you need a new hobby
| 601 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:20:09pm |
| 602 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:20:11pm |
All this time, I never knew I was sharing this site with a bunch of pot-smoking commie pinkos!
///
| 604 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:20:53pm |
re: #602 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
All this time, I never knew I was sharing this site with a bunch of pot-smoking commie pinkos!
///
Hey dude. Like what are you man. A nArC?
//
| 605 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:21:01pm |
re: #596 darthstar
Don't mock the tea party! They rallied against Boehner!
Image: Washington-Tea-Party-Rally-cropped-proto-custom_2. jpg
Looks like just about every Tea Party rally I've ever seen.
They have the highest noise-to-representation ratio in the industry, as well as the highest media-coverage-to-physical-membership ratio.
It's absolutely uncanny what you can do with a few million bucks. You can convince the media that they see something that isn't really there.
| 606 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:21:06pm |
Well, if ABB had smoked a joint and gotten a good lay once in a while, maybe only once. . . .
| 607 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:21:14pm |
re: #596 darthstar
Don't mock the tea party! They rallied against Boehner!
Image: Washington-Tea-Party-Rally-cropped-proto-custom_2. jpg
Soon the tea party will shrink to its original, classic size:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 608 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:21:24pm |
re: #599 albusteve
you think you are slick assuming what people are thinking?...LOL!...you need a new hobby
#556 had nothing to do with what you do or don't think, at all. So put your feathers down.
| 609 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:21:36pm |
re: #602 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
All this time, I never knew I was sharing this site with a bunch of pot-smoking commie pinkos!
///
You never asked...
| 610 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:21:43pm |
re: #596 darthstar
Don't mock the tea party! They rallied against Boehner!
Image: Washington-Tea-Party-Rally-cropped-proto-custom_2. jpg
Is that what they're doing?
| 611 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:21:48pm |
re: #607 Sergey Romanov
Soon the tea party will shrink to its original, classic size:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Which bottle did Alice drink out of?
| 612 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:22:03pm |
re: #608 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
#556 had nothing to do with what you do or don't think, at all. So put your feathers down.
there you go again...hahaha!....can't stop?
| 613 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:22:24pm |
re: #606 ggt
Well, if ABB had smoked a joint and gotten a good lay once in a while, maybe only once. . . .
Can't. All the Moozlums and Marxists !!! steal all the weed and the wimminz.
| 614 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:22:24pm |
re: #607 Sergey Romanov
Soon the tea party will shrink to its original, classic size:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I'd like the Tea Party to shrink to Grover Norquist's specifications.
| 616 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:22:43pm |
Play nice everyone,
I have to go accomplish something again.
| 617 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:03pm |
re: #615 Gus 802
Breaking news!
Herman Cain apologizes to Muslims.
Film @ 11.
Link or it didn't happen..
| 618 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:07pm |
re: #615 Gus 802
Breaking news!
Herman Cain apologizes to Muslims.
Film @ 11.
Gus, you're hallucinatin'. I think you've had enough.
//
| 619 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:11pm |
| 620 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:17pm |
re: #613 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Can't. All the Moozlums and Marxists !!! steal all the weed and the wimminz.
Somewhere it was written he had a Muslim girlfriend at one time . . . .
| 621 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:25pm |
Herman Cain Apologizes To Muslims
"While I stand by my opposition to the interference of shariah law into the American legal system, I remain humble and contrite for any statements I have made that might have caused offense to Muslim Americans and their friends," he said in the statement. "I am truly sorry for any comments that may have betrayed my commitment to the U.S. Constitution and the freedom of religion guaranteed by it."
| 622 |
shutdown Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:27pm |
re: #616 ggt
Play nice everyone,
I have to go accomplish something again.
Again? Twice in one week? slave-drivers....
| 623 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:28pm |
re: #593 albusteve
I smoke it so I don't rage at the all the stupid posts here...
Your man's been selling you oregano.
| 625 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:23:50pm |
| 626 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:24:04pm |
re: #621 Gus 802
"Look, I'm sorry you got offended, but I'm not sorry about what I was sayin'."
Yegods.
| 627 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:24:23pm |
re: #621 Gus 802
Okay, I gotta go lie down now.
Does this mean that Cain's presidential aspirations are now toast?
| 628 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:24:36pm |
| 629 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:25:01pm |
| 630 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:25:02pm |
re: #624 Gus 802
I don't want to accept this idiots apology. Considering he trashed and libeled us (and others), he can go to hell.
| 631 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:25:41pm |
re: #627 makeitstop
Okay, I gotta go lie down now.
Does this mean that Cain's presidential aspirations are now toast?
Who knows. Maybe huh?
Herman Cain prostrated himself to the multiculturalists and librul PCers!!11ty RINO!!11ty
| 632 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:26:10pm |
re: #630 ProLifeLiberal
I don't want to accept this idiots apology. Considering he trashed and libeled us (and others), he can go to hell.
Yeah. He's still a douche in my book.
| 633 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:26:30pm |
re: #626 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
"Look, I'm sorry you got offended, but I'm not sorry about what I was sayin'."
Yegods.
"While I stand by my opposition to the interference of shariah law into the American legal system..."
Which is not happening, in any way that anyone seems able to document...
| 634 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:26:42pm |
re: #625 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Please, you love the attention.
you assume way too much....newbs do that
| 635 |
zora Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:27:50pm |
re: #627 makeitstop
his presidential aspirations have been toast from the beginning. he's probably just hoping for a future of sweet speaking gigs and a spot on fox news.
| 637 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:28:32pm |
re: #633 SanFranciscoZionist
"While I stand by my opposition to the interference of shariah law into the American legal system..."
Which is not happening, in any way that anyone seems able to document...
create a scenario, then milk it politically...disregard there is no factual basis...
Poly 101
| 638 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:28:44pm |
re: #630 ProLifeLiberal
I don't want to accept this idiots apology. Considering he trashed and libeled us (and others), he can go to hell.
Well, now that he "apologized" fwiw, at least he'll never be in the VP slot.
He was supposed to be their only Authentic Black Man™ in the race.
Wonder if Alan Keyes is looking for work, these days. //
| 639 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:28:56pm |
re: #588 SanFranciscoZionist
Thank God, no, since statistically speaking, two or three of them are gay.
(Related story, I once told a bunch of eighth grade boys that one of the reasons I didn't want them using homophobic slurs in class was that, statistically speaking, there were three gay students in our class. One kid's eyes get big, and he says, "Really? WHO???"
Another kid says, "GOD you're dumb. She said 'statistically'.")
On another topic, my mother heard that Alouette has a twenty-seventh grandchild. She says that she has resigned herself to the fact that the only way she and my father will catch up is if my husband and I go to a Romanian orphanage and say "We'll take 'em all."
Think you can get a volume discount for them?
/I keed ;-P
| 641 |
zora Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:29:07pm |
re: #630 ProLifeLiberal
he doesn't mean it anyway. he just can't sound too much like the mass murderer from norway.
| 642 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:29:20pm |
re: #635 zora
his presidential aspirations have been toast from the beginning. he's probably just hoping for a future of sweet speaking gigs and a spot on fox news.
And perhaps some publicity for his pizza.
| 643 |
Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:30:02pm |
| 645 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:30:21pm |
| 646 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:30:39pm |
re: #642 SanFranciscoZionist
And perhaps some publicity for his pizza.
he's setting up his pineapple delight...call it the Presidential Sweet
| 647 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:31:09pm |
| 648 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:31:22pm |
| 649 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:31:42pm |
Better yet...
Herman Cain has suBmitted himself to teh Sharia law! He is obViously now Working for CAIR and Norquist's wife!11ty Taqiyya!!11ty
| 650 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:32:01pm |
re: #635 zora
his presidential aspirations have been toast from the beginning. he's probably just hoping for a future of sweet speaking gigs and a spot on fox news.
Campaign coffers, too.
| 651 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:32:59pm |
re: #637 albusteve
create a scenario, then milk it politically...disregard there is no factual basis...
Poly 101
And, when subject studied and disproven, declare the studies "biased."
| 652 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:33:12pm |
re: #641 zora
Doesn't matter.
He's part of the Tea Party, a group that bastard terrorist approves of. So he is still an anti-Muslim Bigot until he repudiates the Tea Party.
| 653 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:33:23pm |
re: #648 makeitstop
Now you've gone and done it.
There was a guy here who was bothered by that. He was banned. I'm not saying these things are related. I'm just sayin'. ///
| 654 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:33:43pm |
re: #647 albusteve
so are you...lighten up
It's just a personality clash on the internet. They happen, move past it.
| 655 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:35:30pm |
re: #652 ProLifeLiberal
Doesn't matter.
He's part of the Tea Party, a group that bastard terrorist approves of. So he is still an anti-Muslim Bigot until he repudiates the Tea Party.
Approves, parrots, and imitates.
| 657 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:37:38pm |
re: #641 zora
he doesn't mean it anyway. he just can't sound too much like the mass murderer from norway.
You know. That's exactly what I was thinking.
| 658 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:38:02pm |
re: #653 Sergey Romanov
I embrace difference, but I'll never have Pineapple on Pizza. :P
To those who have had it, is Godfather's Pizza any good? I imagine not.
| 659 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:39:19pm |
I fear pineapple on pizza more than I fear the supposed encroachment of Sharia in America.
| 660 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:40:02pm |
Whasswrong with pineapple on pizza?
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darthstar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:40:16pm |
re: #658 ProLifeLiberal
I embrace difference, but I'll never have Pineapple on Pizza. :P
To those who have had it, is Godfather's Pizza any good? I imagine not.
When I was in college, I liked their sausage pizza. They rolled the cheese out over the toppings like a sheet. Smoke two fatties and you could almost eat a large by yourself. Was it good pizza? No. But it wasn't shitty pizza (like Dominoes).
| 662 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:40:35pm |
re: #596 darthstar
Don't mock the tea party! They rallied against Boehner!
Image: Washington-Tea-Party-Rally-cropped-proto-custom_2. jpg
If you're in the mood for a belly laugh, check out ABL's report and pictures from the South Central Tea Party, as led by Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.
[Link: bit.ly...]
| 663 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:40:44pm |
re: #660 Sergey Romanov
Image: Trollface_RE_Its_Another_New_Post_D-s469x428-129184-580.jpg
| 664 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:41:12pm |
| 665 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:41:25pm |
re: #638 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Well, now that he "apologized" fwiw, at least he'll never be in the VP slot.
He was supposed to be their only Authentic Black Man™ in the race.
Wonder if Alan Keyes is looking for work, these days. //
Well, he apologized for this. What about most of what he said over the past four years on his radio show?
What, silence? He's only apologizing for what was noticed, not for his stance in general?
So it's "sorry I got caught" not "I was wrong." Got it.
| 666 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:41:31pm |
| 667 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:42:01pm |
Whew. I haz hot. Is it Fall yet and do I have 25 million dollars in my bank account? Oops. Nope.
| 669 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:42:20pm |
Pineapplepizzaphobes!
| 670 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:42:38pm |
re: #664 albusteve
Thanks for pulling him aside for explanation.
My favorite pizza: Beef and Mushroom. ^_^
| 671 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:42:47pm |
Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) argues that we should lower the debt ceiling in order to 'create jobs.'
Sweet Mother of Pearl. Can we institute an IQ test for anyone wanting to run for Congress? Please??
| 672 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:43:23pm |
| 673 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:43:42pm |
| 674 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:43:48pm |
re: #667 Gus 802
Whew. I haz hot. Is it Fall yet and do I have 25 million dollars in my bank account? Oops. Nope.
Gus, if you've got $25 million, then I've got a business proposal for ya. Just need some...start-up investment...yes...
///
| 675 |
AK-47% Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:43:49pm |
re: #670 ProLifeLiberal
Thanks for pulling him aside for explanation.
My favorite pizza: Beef and Mushroom. ^_^
artichoke hearts and feta cheese
| 676 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:44:16pm |
re: #671 makeitstop
Sweet Mother of Pearl. Can we institute an IQ test for anyone wanting to run for Congress? Please??
Lol I just find it funny the ones with the nasty history of literacy tests, southern cons, are the ones who could use them the most.
| 677 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:44:25pm |
re: #671 makeitstop
Sweet Mother of Pearl. Can we institute an IQ test for anyone wanting to run for Congress? Please??
If we did, Capital Hill would be empty.
| 678 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:44:45pm |
A bunch of schismatics here, I see, I see.
| 679 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:44:50pm |
| 680 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:44:50pm |
re: #656 darthstar
Carney 1 : Fox 0
[Video]
What's with Ed Henry's pink/pink/pink color scheme there? Is Dana picking his outfits now?
| 681 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:46:30pm |
re: #677 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
If we did, Capital Hill would be empty.
let the janitors make law....nothing lost and much to gain
| 682 |
thecommodore Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:46:56pm |
Maybe these ads rotate, so some of you may not have seen this yet, but at this moment, the one right underneath is post is for Ann Coulter's Demonic.
As Alanis Morrisette once sang, "Isn't it ironic?"
| 683 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:47:39pm |
Hey you! Yeah, you! That's you!
| 684 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:48:03pm |
re: #681 albusteve
let the janitors make law...nothing lost and much to gain
True, perhaps with some blue-collar workers making law, things might get better.
| 685 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:48:11pm |
CJ must be out at the local Taco Mania again
| 686 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:49:14pm |
re: #684 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
True, perhaps with some blue-collar workers making law, things might get better.
I hate the feds...period
| 687 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:49:35pm |
re: #661 darthstar
When I was in college, I liked their sausage pizza. They rolled the cheese out over the toppings like a sheet. Smoke two fatties and you could almost eat a large by yourself. Was it good pizza? No. But it wasn't shitty pizza (like Dominoes).
Pizza Hut for undergrad, Lean Cuisine 10/$10 in grad.
| 688 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:50:02pm |
re: #658 ProLifeLiberal
I embrace difference, but I'll never have Pineapple on Pizza. :P
To those who have had it, is Godfather's Pizza any good? I imagine not.
I liked it better than most of the alternatives. But then, I prefer deep dish.
As to pineapple, it depends on what else there is on the pizza. But then, in addition to preferring deep dish, I'm a kitchen sink kinda guy.
(Typical conversation at "choose your ingredients" restaurants. "I'll have everything, please." "everything?" "yes." "All the peppers?" "yes" "These?" "Those?" "That too?" "All yes." to the manager "Help, it won't fit.")
| 689 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:51:09pm |
re: #688 kirkspencer
I liked it better than most of the alternatives. But then, I prefer deep dish.
As to pineapple, it depends on what else there is on the pizza. But then, in addition to preferring deep dish, I'm a kitchen sink kinda guy.
(Typical conversation at "choose your ingredients" restaurants. "I'll have everything, please." "everything?" "yes." "All the peppers?" "yes" "These?" "Those?" "That too?" "All yes." to the manager "Help, it won't fit.")
Have you checked out Papa Murphy's?
| 690 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:52:03pm |
re: #688 kirkspencer
I liked it better than most of the alternatives. But then, I prefer deep dish.
As to pineapple, it depends on what else there is on the pizza. But then, in addition to preferring deep dish, I'm a kitchen sink kinda guy.
(Typical conversation at "choose your ingredients" restaurants. "I'll have everything, please." "everything?" "yes." "All the peppers?" "yes" "These?" "Those?" "That too?" "All yes." to the manager "Help, it won't fit.")
putting a bunch of unnecessary crap on pizza is a Chicago thing....they knew they were pizza losers so they had to invent their own
| 691 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:53:11pm |
| 692 |
McSpiff Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:53:33pm |
re: #690 albusteve
putting a bunch of unnecessary crap on pizza is a Chicago thing...they knew they were pizza losers so they had to invent their own
The best pizzas I've had included maybe 3 ingredients max. With one home town exception.
| 693 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:54:20pm |
| 694 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:54:35pm |
So shoot me.
I like "Hawaiian" pizza.
I had a great one the other day--thin crust, garlic sauce, grilled chicken, bacon. Other stuff, it was unimportant after those four.
| 695 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:54:43pm |
re: #692 McSpiff
The best pizzas I've had included maybe 3 ingredients max. With one home town exception.
White pizza with pesto is the best.
| 696 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:54:53pm |
We only order 'pizza food' like Domino's or Papa John's in an absolute pinch.
We're within driving distance of at least 3 excellent pizzerias and only order the other stuff when they're all closed.
| 697 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:55:07pm |
re: #692 McSpiff
The best pizzas I've had included maybe 3 ingredients max. With one home town exception.
bread, sauce, cheese and maybe pepperoni...thin crust, folded and scarfed....that's a pizza
| 698 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:55:50pm |
re: #697 albusteve
bread, sauce, cheese and maybe pepperoni...thin crust, folded and scarfed...that's a pizza
Had to upding that. Simple truth.
| 699 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:56:30pm |
re: #692 McSpiff
The best pizzas I've had included maybe 3 ingredients max. With one home town exception.
In my experience "best pizza" is like "best beer" or "best chili" or "best bbq". It always comes down to personal preference.
I like deep dish, and I like the melding of flavors that allows. My wife likes crisp thin crust, and that cooks so fast that flavors don't meld -- more than a couple of ingredients overwhelms it. If you like a thin but foldable crust three or four ingredients works - but some people only like one or two.
Your mileage WILL vary.
| 700 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:56:57pm |
re: #690 albusteve
putting a bunch of unnecessary crap on pizza is a Chicago thing...they knew they were pizza losers so they had to invent their own
re: #692 McSpiff
The best pizzas I've had included maybe 3 ingredients max. With one home town exception.
Chicago style is all the rage here, right now. There is a small chain, Paxti's, [Link: patxispizza.com...] that does a great Chicago style, but I just find it hard to manoevere (sp?). And, I notice they have added thin and now extra thin to their menus. So you guys are on to something.
| 701 |
kirkspencer Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:58:40pm |
re: #699 kirkspencer
In my experience "best pizza" is like "best beer" or "best chili" or "best bbq". It always comes down to personal preference.
I like deep dish, and I like the melding of flavors that allows. My wife likes crisp thin crust, and that cooks so fast that flavors don't meld -- more than a couple of ingredients overwhelms it. If you like a thin but foldable crust three or four ingredients works - but some people only like one or two.
Your mileage WILL vary.
Oh, and I should remind - these days if I want pizza, I make it; crust and all. I make one the way my wife wants, one the way my daughter wants, and one the way I want.
And we each get the best pizza.
| 702 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:58:49pm |
Pizza wars! /
OK, this seems fitting.
| 703 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:59:02pm |
re: #694 EmmmieG
So shoot me.
I like "Hawaiian" pizza.
I had a great one the other day--thin crust, garlic sauce, grilled chicken, bacon. Other stuff, it was unimportant after those four.
Was that from Domino's? They take it on the jaw, but they do a decent pizza like that.
| 704 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:59:41pm |
| 705 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:59:47pm |
re: #701 kirkspencer
Oh, and I should remind - these days if I want pizza, I make it; crust and all. I make one the way my wife wants, one the way my daughter wants, and one the way I want.
And we each get the best pizza.
We make 'pizza rustica' on the drill. Mmmmmmmmmm.
| 706 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 3:59:48pm |
re: #703 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Was that from Domino's? They take it on the jaw, but they do a decent pizza like that.
Fred Meyer. That's a local chain that has a good cheese counter now with a row of sauces they bring in from a restaurant. They were highlighting the cheese and the sauce.
| 707 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:00:42pm |
you go over to NYC and you will see 24in pies in the deli windows....swirls of colorful veggies and colorful slices of this and that....they are artforms, for the tourists...no You Norker would eat such a thing
| 708 |
ProGunLiberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:01:10pm |
re: #704 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Bullshit Fischer.
What us to look through the shit you have post on the verbal diarrhea you call a blog.
| 709 |
Gus Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:01:13pm |
re: #697 albusteve
bread, sauce, cheese and maybe pepperoni...thin crust, folded and scarfed...that's a pizza
[Link: lombardisoriginalpizza.com...]
| 710 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:01:50pm |
re: #703 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Was that from Domino's? They take it on the jaw, but they do a decent pizza like that.
Domino's does a decent pie?....ahahahaha!
you must be kidding
| 711 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:02:08pm |
re: #702 Sergey Romanov
And speaking of that, there's new PIBF comic (they're updated regularly - like, 1 each 6 months!).
| 713 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:03:07pm |
re: #706 EmmmieG
I should add that Fred Meyer is not a pizza chain, it's kind of groceries and clothes and housewares and some garden stuff, etc.
| 714 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:03:40pm |
re: #706 EmmmieG
Fred Meyer. That's a local chain that has a good cheese counter now with a row of sauces they bring in from a restaurant. They were highlighting the cheese and the sauce.
Sounds excellent. There is a place in Berkeley -- I don't even know the name, I think it's just "Cheeseboard" -- local cheesery's pizza place. Somewhat like the Soup N&zi...one choice daily, and everybody knows it's automatically good so there is usually a line out the door, whatever it is.
| 715 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:05:02pm |
re: #710 albusteve
Domino's does a decent pie?...ahahahaha!
you must be kidding
It does a decent pizza for 12:30, working late, delivers.
| 716 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:05:42pm |
| 717 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:06:22pm |
re: #704 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fischer: "We’re not talking about imposing these values"
Liar.
Men like Fischer can be trusted about as far as he can be thrown.
| 718 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:07:23pm |
re: #717 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Men like Fischer can be trusted about as far as he can be thrown.
I'd like to throw Fischer into a vat of boiling oil from a giant trebuchet...
| 719 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:09:09pm |
re: #718 talon_262
I'd like to throw Fischer into a vat of boiling oil from a giant trebuchet...
I'd like to make him walk the plank over one and have him just stand there, anticipating, for the rest of eternity.
| 720 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:11:16pm |
re: #715 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It does a decent pizza for 12:30, working late, delivers.
tomato flavored cardboard is not pizza...glad you enjoy it tho
| 721 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:11:20pm |
Fischer should be given the Ludovico treatment, with the Left Behind series of movies playing over and over again.
| 722 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:12:01pm |
re: #720 albusteve
tomato flavored cardboard is not pizza...glad you enjoy it tho
Nobody's making you order it, so whatevs.
| 723 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:12:50pm |
re: #721 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Fischer should be given the Ludovico treatment, with the Left Behind series of movies playing over and over again.
Fischer should agree to 30min with me in the ally next door
| 724 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:13:35pm |
re: #723 albusteve
Fischer should agree to 30min with me in the ally next door
Who is your ally and are you sure they would be into that?
| 727 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:15:16pm |
re: #28 Obdicut
Romney however, managed only a weasel-worded abdication of any real position.
Seriously, the guy wants to be president and he can't actually make a commitment that means anything. He says so much nothing. Obama has some broken promises on his list, but he's got far more promises fulfilled. Romney hasn't even let us know what the fuck he'd do.
He does understand he's running for President, right? It's a position that requires quite a lot of communication of your agenda with the people.
The only platform the GOP has is "I'm not Obama, vote for me." Considering their constituents, it's about all they need, sadly.
| 728 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:15:19pm |
re: #724 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Who is your ally and are you sure they would be into that?
my vowel keys are totally worn off....that's my story
| 729 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:16:03pm |
| 730 |
Renaissance_Man Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:16:29pm |
Perhaps we should avoid indulging in violent fantasies regarding Bryan Fischer, despite the cathartic value of such.
| 731 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:18:06pm |
re: #730 Renaissance_Man
Perhaps we should avoid indulging in violent fantasies regarding Bryan Fischer, despite the cathartic value of such.
Yeah. Save those for the Norwegian terrorist. He deserves it more.
| 732 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:18:45pm |
re: #730 Renaissance_Man
Perhaps we should avoid indulging in violent fantasies regarding Bryan Fischer, despite the cathartic value of such.
good idea
| 733 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:19:09pm |
| 734 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:21:27pm |
re: #730 Renaissance_Man
Perhaps we should avoid indulging in violent fantasies regarding Bryan Fischer, despite the cathartic value of such.
Fine by me...I don't want him hurt, and he's already a conservative slob stewing in his own miseries. Only he can change that condition, so afaic if he doesn't, he's already getting his.
| 736 |
moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:22:31pm |
re: #36 wrenchwench
I don't think those were teabaggers, though. I think that was the mainstream Republican so-cons.
Um, they are the same people. The TPers aren't a new voting block that spring up out of the ground. They are socially conservative middle aged white people who claim to be fiscal conservatives and who have been voting a long time, almost exclusively for Republicans. TPers are the base of the GOP.
| 737 |
makeitstop Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:23:16pm |
re: #734 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
stewing in his own miseries.
For some odd reason I read that as 'stewing in his own miniseries.'
Think I'll go outside for a while.
| 738 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:24:08pm |
re: #736 moderatelyradicalliberal
They are socially conservative middle aged white people who claim to be fiscal conservatives and who have been voting a long time, almost exclusively for Republicans. ...
...re-living their anti-busing/silent majority years.
| 739 |
Kragar Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:24:12pm |
| 740 |
jvic Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:24:42pm |
re: #733 Killgore Trout
Good luck. Most restaurants don't even offer them as an option.
That's what I was getting at.
Another sign of the decline of Western Civilization. When anchovies are outlawed, only outlaws will have anchovies. /
| 741 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:25:10pm |
re: #733 Killgore Trout
Good luck. Most restaurants don't even offer them as an option.
we used to seine smelt, chop off their heads and tails, slow cook them in butter/salt/pepper and maybe a dash of something mom had around...then eat them like candy, bones, guts and all...same with canned sardines, used to take them on every hike...I can understand a taste for small fish, but to pack them in salt then put em on a pizza is going too far....anchovies are not cool with pizza
| 742 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:25:33pm |
| 743 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:25:39pm |
re: #739 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Wow - nice gig for Arcade Fire. Thanks for that!
| 744 |
Alexzander Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:26:30pm |
re: #739 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Maybe this will help clear the air:
[Video]
Woah - David Bowie and Arcade Fire???? Must check that out later - currently in a bar.
And I only chanted for a new thread because older computers pretty much stop functioning on LGF after 500 or so posts.
| 745 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:29:36pm |
re: #744 Alexzander
Woah - David Bowie and Arcade Fire??? Must check that out later - currently in a bar.
And I only chanted for a new thread because older computers pretty much stop functioning on LGF after 500 or so posts.
One of mine coughs up furballs at about 450 posts.
This one's good for over a thousand, though.
| 746 |
jvic Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:30:50pm |
re: #731 EmmmieG
Yeah. Save those for the Norwegian terrorist. He deserves it more.
Breivik's plans rely on the humaneness of Norwegian law. If his statements are taken at face value, a Muslim facility would be prepared to resist armed attackers.
Breivik is not just a mass murderer. He is a coward.
That should not be forgotten as he continues to try to propagandize.
| 747 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:31:14pm |
re: #744 Alexzander
Woah - David Bowie and Arcade Fire???
I would go see them in a hot second. Love them.
| 748 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:31:42pm |
800 posts is possible...I bet CJ has a hot date
| 749 |
moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:31:45pm |
re: #738 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
...re-living their anti-busing/silent majority years.
They are a protest movement, protesting one thing: there is a black man in their White House and they will do anything, including crashing the economy on purpose, to get him out.
And I'm depressed because they will not pay a price for their behavior. They have manufactured a new economic crisis that could cause the depression that we barely avoided betting that the president will get blamed. And they are probably right to make that bet. The MSM will never tell the truth and the American people aren't paying attention. The GOP never pays for any of it's bad behavior. Not starting bullshit wars, driving the economy into the ground and not for the deficits they drove up. I'm sick of it. This country is fucked.
| 750 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:32:17pm |
re: #730 Renaissance_Man
Perhaps we should avoid indulging in violent fantasies regarding Bryan Fischer, despite the cathartic value of such.
I see a distinct difference in wishing things upon Fischer (or anyone else) that's so over-the-top and will never happen (like my giant trebuchet/boiling oil fantasy) and wishing stuff on them that can happen (shooting, stabbing, etc.).
| 751 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:33:48pm |
re: #749 moderatelyradicalliberal
They are a protest movement, protesting one thing: there is a black man in their White House and they will do anything, including crashing the economy on purpose, to get him out.
And I'm depressed because they will not pay a price for their behavior. They have manufactured a new economic crisis that could cause the depression that we barely avoided betting that the president will get blamed. And they are probably right to make that bet. The MSM will never tell the truth and the American people aren't paying attention. The GOP never pays for any of it's bad behavior. Not starting bullshit wars, driving the economy into the ground and not for the deficits they drove up. I'm sick of it. This country is fucked.
nice post...my exact sentiments
| 752 |
wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:34:09pm |
re: #736 moderatelyradicalliberal
Um, they are the same people. The TPers aren't a new voting block that spring up out of the ground. They are socially conservative middle aged white people who claim to be fiscal conservatives and who have been voting a long time, almost exclusively for Republicans. TPers are the base of the GOP.
Yeah, you're right. I tried to think of what way they were something new, and all I came up with is this: packaging.
| 753 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:35:59pm |
re: #749 moderatelyradicalliberal
They are a protest movement, protesting one thing: there is a black man in their White House and they will do anything, including crashing the economy on purpose, to get him out.
And I'm depressed because they will not pay a price for their behavior. They have manufactured a new economic crisis that could cause the depression that we barely avoided betting that the president will get blamed. And they are probably right to make that bet. The MSM will never tell the truth and the American people aren't paying attention. The GOP never pays for any of it's bad behavior. Not starting bullshit wars, driving the economy into the ground and not for the deficits they drove up. I'm sick of it. This country is fucked.
I think that's a big part of it though not the full story. The moneybags teabagging the tea party don't care one whit about the color of the D standing in the way of their looting the government.
They'll let the anxiety brew and stew, sure. Doesn't take a lot of effort on their part, that's for sure.
| 754 |
Alexzander Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:37:54pm |
re: #748 albusteve
800 posts is possible...I bet CJ has a hot date
Or possibly some kind of media interview.
| 755 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:39:04pm |
| 756 |
CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:40:09pm |
| 757 |
jvic Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:41:48pm |
re: #746 jvic
Breivik is not just a mass murderer. He is a coward.
That should not be forgotten as he continues to try to propagandize.
To pursue that thought one step further:
Calling Breivik a murderer will not impair his standing with the potential storm troopers he is proselytizing.
Outing him as a coward will.
| 758 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:42:17pm |
| 759 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:42:35pm |
re: #753 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I think that's a big part of it though not the full story. The moneybags teabagging the tea party don't care one whit about the color of the D standing in the way of their looting the government.
They'll let the anxiety brew and stew, sure. Doesn't take a lot of effort on their part, that's for sure.
While I'm sure severe ODS is playing a role in the GOP stonewalling of raising the debt ceiling, I smells a lot like the "Fuck everyone else, I got mine!" mentality to me...and the GOP rank-and-file who aren't racist or xenophobic and continue to support this lunacy (directly or indirectly) are being used like a rubber on Saturday night.
| 760 |
CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:42:59pm |
re: #492 darthstar
Ay, ay, ay... I can't imagine why they were upset, heh.
| 761 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:43:26pm |
re: #758 albusteve
I like the hot babe angle myself
Charles has a fiance, IIRC...maybe they're having some downtime.
| 762 |
moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:43:57pm |
re: #752 wrenchwench
Yeah, you're right. I tried to think of what way they were something new, and all I came up with is this: packaging.
Well see that's what's amazing to me. I think the new packaging is worse than what's been out there before. They seem more radical and more angry and meaner. I was one of those people who thought this will never appeal to anyone outside of the conservative base and yet here we are watching these people attempt to crash the economy on purpose. And have very little faith that they will pay a price for it because Republicans never pay a price for their dirty deems, bad acts are bad ideas.
| 763 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:44:27pm |
re: #757 jvic
To pursue that thought one step further:
Calling Breivik a murderer will not impair his standing with the potential storm troopers he is proselytizing.
Outing him as a coward will.
he doesn't seem like a coward to me
| 764 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:44:55pm |
re: #759 talon_262
Whoops...meant "it smells a lot like the "Fuck everyone else, I got mine!" mentality"
| 765 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:45:32pm |
re: #759 talon_262
While I'm sure severe ODS is playing a role in the GOP stonewalling of raising the debt ceiling, I smells a lot like the "Fuck everyone else, I got mine!" mentality to me...and the GOP rank-and-file who aren't racist or xenophobic and continue to support this lunacy (directly or indirectly) are being used like a rubber on Saturday night.
That, they are. Every tea party dupe is, yet the normal conservatives sit around and allow them to take over.
| 766 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:45:45pm |
re: #761 talon_262
Charles has a fiance, IIRC...maybe they're having some downtime.
I did not know that
| 767 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:46:28pm |
re: #763 albusteve
he doesn't seem like a coward to me
He shot unarmed children for an hour and a half then threw his hands up high when confronted by police, it doesn't get any more cowardly than that.
| 768 |
moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:47:44pm |
re: #753 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I think that's a big part of it though not the full story. The moneybags teabagging the tea party don't care one whit about the color of the D standing in the way of their looting the government.
They'll let the anxiety brew and stew, sure. Doesn't take a lot of effort on their part, that's for sure.
The moneybags don't care, but the rank and file of the TPers do. That is their primary motivation and always has been. The Confederates never died, they just stopped saying ni**er in public. These are the same people who are always trying to rip the country apart and burn it down any time their perception of what the social and racial order of the country should be is being threatened. Yes the rich want to protect their money, but TPers, like everyone else, don't have any money. It's race and social hierarchy. Always has been and always will be.
| 769 |
Targetpractice Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:49:38pm |
re: #765 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
That, they are. Every tea party dupe is, yet the normal conservatives sit around and allow them to take over.
It's party before country now, running the country through the meat grinder is acceptable, so long as they come out on top of the heap.
| 770 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:49:48pm |
re: #767 goddamnedfrank
He shot unarmed children for an hour and a half then threw his hands up high when confronted by police, it doesn't get any more cowardly than that.
he wants to talk, not die...as for his caper, it takes a lot of something to pull that off...I don't see him as cowardly in his behavior
| 771 |
moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:50:48pm |
re: #767 goddamnedfrank
He shot unarmed children for an hour and a half then threw his hands up high when confronted by police, it doesn't get any more cowardly than that.
He wanted to live so that he could spew his hate. Because these is no death penalty and no real life sentence in Norway, he'll be able to do so until he dies until a ripe old age. I normally admire countries that have no death penalty, but damn they need an exception. This guy needs to be gone ASAP.
| 772 |
wrenchwench Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:51:34pm |
re: #762 moderatelyradicalliberal
Well see that's what's amazing to me. I think the new packaging is worse than what's been out there before. They seem more radical and more angry and meaner. I was one of those people who thought this will never appeal to anyone outside of the conservative base and yet here we are watching these people attempt to crash the economy on purpose. And have very little faith that they will pay a price for it because Republicans never pay a price for their dirty deems, bad acts are bad ideas.
They sometimes get voted out of office.
I'll help.
| 773 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:52:16pm |
re: #767 goddamnedfrank
He shot unarmed children for an hour and a half then threw his hands up high when confronted by police, it doesn't get any more cowardly than that.
Precisely...to me, a prime example of a coward is someone who attacks people who can't defend themselves.
ABB is a sociopathic pissant.
| 774 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:52:29pm |
re: #768 moderatelyradicalliberal
The moneybags don't care, but the rank and file of the TPers do. That is their primary motivation and always has been. The Confederates never died, they just stopped saying ni**er in public.
They also have no qualms about saying it right to our faces. But I'm of the mind that's no longer a good measure of much.
I'm glad it made them irate with rage when Barack Obama talked about their clinging behavior. They cling to whatever little petty status they think they have, and convince themselves everyone else wants to live like that, or are coming to take away their little trinkets.
It wouldn't be such a travesty, were their entire identity wrapped up in those clung-to trinkets. And you're right - the behavior isn't going anywhere. At this rate, I expect more ABBs and all that exported cultural resentment, as the days wear on. Sure hope I'm wrong about it, though.
| 775 |
jvic Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:54:46pm |
re: #763 albusteve
he doesn't seem like a coward to me
I did a double-take when the thought crossed my mind, days after the massacre.
I gave my reasons in #746:
Breivik's plans rely on the humaneness of Norwegian law. If his statements are taken at face value, a Muslim facility would be prepared to resist armed attackers.
Reasonable people can disagree.
As you said, he doesn't seem like a coward. He's taken great pains, with undeniable skill, to not seem like a coward. That's why it's important that he be outed.
(He murdered ~70 defenseless people in cold blood. Afaik he did not resist when the commandos arrived. Not exactly a seeker of martyrdom. Cool uniforms notwithstanding.)
| 776 |
moderatelyradicalliberal Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:56:33pm |
re: #772 wrenchwench
They sometimes get voted out of office.
I'll help.
Me too. I want them out next time.
| 777 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:56:35pm |
re: #769 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
It's party before country now, running the country through the meat grinder is acceptable, so long as they come out on top of the heap.
Well hey, Jesus is coming back soon. So it doesn't matter anyway. //
| 778 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:57:32pm |
re: #760 CuriousLurker
Ay, ay, ay... I can't imagine why they were upset, heh.
I am so glad you linked that, I would have missed it. I can just imagine the freak out the redstaters had reading it. Can just imagine.
| 779 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:58:51pm |
re: #770 albusteve
he wants to talk, not die...as for his caper, it takes a lot of something to pull that off...I don't see him as cowardly in his behavior
Caper? You sure say some stupid shit sometimes. A caper generally involves theft, not mass child murder. Sure he was resolute, organized, and evil, but the idea that these traits are somehow inconsistent with cowardice is absolutely nonsensical.
| 780 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 4:59:48pm |
re: #779 goddamnedfrank
Caper? You sure say some stupid shit sometimes. A caper generally involves theft, not mass child murder. Sure he was resolute, organized, and evil, but the idea that these traits are somehow inconsistent with cowardice is absolutely nonsensical.
LOL!
| 781 |
JDRhoades Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:00:24pm |
It's funny...my little red-state county went overwhelmingly for McCain (60.26% to 38.88%) and now I can't find anyone here who admits voting for the guy.
| 782 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:02:15pm |
re: #770 albusteve
he wants to talk, not die...as for his caper, it takes a lot of something to pull that off...I don't see him as cowardly in his behavior
I like capers on pizza.
| 783 |
CuriousLurker Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:03:46pm |
re: #770 albusteve
he wants to talk, not die...as for his caper, it takes a lot of something to pull that off...I don't see him as cowardly in his behavior
WTF, steve? It took a lot of something to pull off 9/11 & Oklahoma City too.
| 784 |
robdouth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:04:18pm |
re: #738 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Except that those weren't Republicans... They were southern Democrats, like George Wallace and Orval Faubus. They never became Republicans, and in fact, Orval was honored by Clinton when he was president, so taking the crimes that were primarily one party and attributing them to the other is either highly ignorant, or willfully dishonest, or both.
| 785 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:04:49pm |
re: #783 CuriousLurker
WTF, steve? It took a lot of something to pull off 9/11 & Oklahoma City too.
it did
| 786 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:05:16pm |
re: #779 goddamnedfrank
Caper? You sure say some stupid shit sometimes. A caper generally involves theft, not mass child murder. Sure he was resolute, organized, and evil, but the idea that these traits are somehow inconsistent with cowardice is absolutely nonsensical.
ABB: Chickenshit coward who didn't have the guts to go toe-to-toe with people who could fight back, opting instead to give himself what he denied to dozens of people.
*spit*
| 787 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:08:03pm |
re: #784 robdouth
Except that those weren't Republicans... They were southern Democrats, like George Wallace and Orval Faubus. They never became Republicans, and in fact, Orval was honored by Clinton when he was president, so taking the crimes that were primarily one party and attributing them to the other is either highly ignorant, or willfully dishonest, or both.
This old canard, again.
Democrat, Republican, Blathertarian, Whatever, they are southern strategy conservative whites with a social axe to grind.
Their rhetoric is identical to the White Citizen's Councils, which Haley Barbour (R - Dumb Ass) defends. (So are their art departments for those misspelled picket signs.) [Link: www.citizenscouncils.com...]
BTW, you may not have noticed but I have: the "party of Lincoln" are now the ones waving the Confederate flags.
| 788 |
robdouth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:08:55pm |
re: #786 talon_262
That's what always happens. You don't see guys like this go into gun ranges and shoot up the place. That's why gun-free zones are the worst names ideas. They should be called "law-abiding citizen gun free zone" or maybe "Fish in a barrel" zone, so they crazies will know exactly where they can do a ton of damage without any risk of people fighting back.
| 789 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:09:18pm |
re: #787 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Oooh, so there's a lovely Mau Mau reference.
Full fucking circle.
| 790 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:10:20pm |
re: #789 Stanley Sea
Oooh, so there's a lovely Mau Mau reference.
Full fucking circle.
Same old dumb, ignorant, seething bigots, 100 years prior. Image: hb167n97jm-FID4.jpg
| 791 |
albusteve Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:10:28pm |
re: #786 talon_262
ABB: Chickenshit coward who didn't have the guts to go toe-to-toe with people who could fight back, opting instead to give himself what he denied to dozens of people.
*spit*
he's a terrorist, not a street fighter...he can't gain anything with a do or die shootout...he's meticulous, bold, and determined...whether he is a coward or not is irrelevant actually
| 792 |
(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:11:07pm |
re: #787 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
the "party of Lincoln" are now the ones waving the Confederate flags.
That's social change for ya.
| 793 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:12:00pm |
re: #788 robdouth
That's what always happens. You don't see guys like this go into gun ranges and shoot up the place. That's why gun-free zones are the worst names ideas. They should be called "law-abiding citizen gun free zone" or maybe "Fish in a barrel" zone, so they crazies will know exactly where they can do a ton of damage without any risk of people fighting back.
If only the kids at the camp had not been dumb libbruls and had been packing instead, this wouldn't have happened! ///
| 794 |
robdouth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:15:05pm |
re: #787 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Bull, the south didn't start going Republican until the Democrats became the party of protest during the 60's. It was far more about being anti-war in a region that leans heavily patriotic. When the northeast was breaking out with violent protests on college campuses with deans to scared to shut them down, the south started to break with the democrats. If the southern strategy were true, why did the south start voting Republican in the 60's when the Republicans were the party that overwhelmingly passed the civil rights act, and had to drag LBJ kicking and screaming along with them? The south started turning republican when republicans were the stronger party on racial equality and were not the party of violent anti-war protests.
| 795 |
Obdicut Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:16:27pm |
re: #794 robdouth
I'm sorry, your attempt to rewrite history has failed.
| 796 |
robdouth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:18:06pm |
re: #793 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Are you retarded? I never said that. I said that these things always happen in no-gun zones. I said nothing about the children being culpable for the violence against them. It's sick that you would even imply that. Every instance of a gunman killing shit-tons of people happens in gun free zones. What I'm saying is that those areas with the strictest gun control, be it countries, or just specific areas within cities and towns are more likely to be targets of gun violence. You guys admitted as much. They are cowards and don't want a fair fight, so what better target than a place where there will be no guns to fight back. I don't understand why that's even a controversial statement.
| 797 |
robdouth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:19:46pm |
re: #795 Obdicut
Thank god we have someone to just make assertions. no Evidence needed. I've just decreed that you can't rewrite history. No need to examine the actual voting patterns or see when people in the south started voting for Republicans relative to civil rights legislation or the Vietnam war, I Obdicut have decreed the matter closed.
That's a load off my mind.
| 798 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:26:54pm |
re: #794 robdouth
Bull, the south didn't start going Republican until the Democrats became the party of protest during the 60's. It was far more about being anti-war in a region that leans heavily patriotic. When the northeast was breaking out with violent protests on college campuses with deans to scared to shut them down, the south started to break with the democrats.
Incorrect.
The dixiecrat white bigot south started going in their current direction with the States Rights Party of 1948.
If only we had voted for them. Then, we would not be having all these problems. ///
The south started turning republican when republicans were the stronger party on racial equality and were not the party of violent anti-war protests.
Put down the Teabagger Homeschool History Course materials, and look at the history of the R Party. The southern strategy is "true", because the Republican Party is now the party of Confederates, Slavery-nostalgia Evenings to Remember, and general white race-resentment. This is why the rank and file tea party is attached at the hip to Republicans, not the Democratic Party.
The last time Republicans could rightfully claim to be some kind of party "stronger on racial equality" was some time in the 1870s, and even those were the Radical Republicans.
But this is why we have them spittling in our faces "Party of Lincoln!!!!!!!1" and not "Party of Thurmond/Lott/Helms!!!!!!!!!!"
Don't they know that sort of thing will NEVER get the coveted voting block they think they're supposed to own?
| 799 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:30:01pm |
re: #796 robdouth
Are you retarded?
Nope. You?
It's sick that you would even imply that.
It's far sicker that a dumb race-butthurt bigot in Norway, drunk on American exports of conservative hate, went and shot up 80 children for an hour and a half.
| 800 |
Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:37:21pm |
re: #796 robdouth
I said that these things always happen in no-gun zones
Because Texas and Arizona, for example, are clearly no-gun zones.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 801 |
yoshicastmaster Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:50:19pm |
this makes me happy to see mccain call them out
| 802 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:56:28pm |
The GOP isn't even looking out for Wall Street anymore - the hedgefund managers want a lasting deal - the Dems are the party of big business now, they have a grasp on how serious this is.
| 803 |
Obdicut Wed, Jul 27, 2011 6:07:00pm |
| 804 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Jul 27, 2011 6:08:36pm |
| 805 |
robdouth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 6:20:52pm |
re: #803 Obdicut
Thanks for the shithead, nice to see the civility hasn't changed from you. I cited specific points that backed up my assertion, such as the protests at college campuses, and other events that track with voting. Let's look at specifically the 1968 election where the lie of the southern strategy was first formed:
[Link: blackquillandink.com...]
Nixon integrated the government faster than any president before him, and then the democrats took credit for him. The Democrat Wallace, running as a third party member was the segregationist, and Nixon conceded the south to Wallace because he refused to concede on civil rights. Nixon actually has the best record on civil rights and integration of any president during that time period.
This is not rewriting history, it's correcting a lie that has been pushed by one party to continue to paint it's opponent as racist for 50 years. Republicans became the "racist" party when they thought racial preferences and quotas was taking it to far. They believed in equal rights, as shown by the fact that they voted overwhelmingly for the civil rights legislation, but when it came to other "civil rights" legislation that was not actually equal at all, but what amounted to laws that would take into account race, they took the same stand they did during the civil rights act of 1964, which is equal rights, and not preferences for whites or minorities. They were the only ones being consistent.
But I can see how that's not nearly as strong an argument as telling someone they can't rewrite history, or calling them a shithead. I don't use the Dkos school of debating handbook, so I'll leave you to figure out the score.
| 806 |
robdouth Wed, Jul 27, 2011 6:29:44pm |
re: #800 prononymous
Nice four links, wow, that's overwhelming evidence. One is a 6 person shooting, not exactly mass murder is it? The other is the muslim shooter at Fort Hood... which proves what exactly? That islamic motivated killers don't care about gun-free or not. Fine I'll concede that point.
Ruby's is the only legitimate argument, because the fact is that Gaby Giffords speech was a gun-free zone in practice. No one was there with a gun to stop Loughner.
Now for the examples in the other direction:
School Shootings
There is well over 100 examples of school shootings where a gunman or gunmen had free reign to kill as many as they could as fast as they could reload, and empty clips. Undoubtedly some idiot will say, "what do you want people packing at schools to defend themselves" to which I will say, of course not dumbshit, but the fact remains that when one of these cowardly killers wants to inflict a ton of damage and not face the consequences, they go to a place where guns aren't allowed. I wouldn't be against actual security that's armed at schools, but no I don't want a bunch of students packing. I also wouldn't be opposed to a teacher that had rights like an air marshall or a principal having a gun safe in the event of an emergency.
| 807 |
The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Jul 27, 2011 6:30:54pm |
re: #580 imp_62
You know, "Sharia Threat" would be a great name either for a rock band or a martini.
I'm pretty sure a Sharia Threat is a sex move. Sort of like a Rusty Venture, but there's a burka involved.
| 808 |
Prononymous, rogue demon hunter Wed, Jul 27, 2011 6:40:55pm |
re: #806 robdouth
The Luby's shooting was 24 people and guns were available but unable to be utilized.
Islamic or not, a suicidal person that wants to kill a bunch of people only needs to have a gun. The presence or absence of guns in the hands of others doesn't even figure into it. Please show us instances where civilians having guns has prevented a mass murder - I have already shown you instances where it hasn't.
| 809 |
Obdicut Wed, Jul 27, 2011 7:26:21pm |
re: #805 robdouth
Republicans became the "racist" party when they thought racial preferences and quotas was taking it to far. They believed in equal rights, as shown by the fact that they voted overwhelmingly for the civil rights legislation, but when it came to other "civil rights" legislation that was not actually equal at all, but what amounted to laws that would take into account race, they took the same stand they did during the civil rights act of 1964, which is equal rights, and not preferences for whites or minorities. They were the only ones being consistent.
The CRA passed with a majority of Republicans and Democrats.
But have a look:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)
Most of those southern Democrats then became Republicans. The ones how voted AGAINST the CRA.
How does that fit into your narrative?
| 811 |
OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, Jul 27, 2011 9:58:10pm |
re: #805 robdouth
Republicans became the "racist" party when they thought racial preferences and quotas was taking it to far.
No, Republicans started accommodating "racists" at least as soon as Goldwater and Bigot-in-Chief-to-be Saint Ronald started campaigning against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
This was the same time white conservatives were waving Race Mixing=Communism signs, and the people who would influence Glenn Beck were labeling MLK a Communist.
Now, you tell us he's a Republican. Lol, which is it?
The southern strategy is why we now see ignorant, seething Republican whites waving Confederate flags, yapping about secession and nullification, and wailing about the lost cause of states rights.
So stop lying that the shift of white bigots from Democrats to Republicans was mainly about the Vietnam war. Who ya foolin'?
| 812 |
jamesfirecat Thu, Jul 28, 2011 4:40:38am |
re: #806 robdouth
Nice four links, wow, that's overwhelming evidence. One is a 6 person shooting, not exactly mass murder is it? The other is the muslim shooter at Fort Hood... which proves what exactly? That islamic motivated killers don't care about gun-free or not. Fine I'll concede that point.
Ruby's is the only legitimate argument, because the fact is that Gaby Giffords speech was a gun-free zone in practice. No one was there with a gun to stop Loughner.
Now for the examples in the other direction:
School ShootingsThere is well over 100 examples of school shootings where a gunman or gunmen had free reign to kill as many as they could as fast as they could reload, and empty clips. Undoubtedly some idiot will say, "what do you want people packing at schools to defend themselves" to which I will say, of course not dumbshit, but the fact remains that when one of these cowardly killers wants to inflict a ton of damage and not face the consequences, they go to a place where guns aren't allowed. I wouldn't be against actual security that's armed at schools, but no I don't want a bunch of students packing. I also wouldn't be opposed to a teacher that had rights like an air marshall or a principal having a gun safe in the event of an emergency.
Ummm....
No one was there with a gun to stop Loughner.
[Link: news.firedoglake.com...]
Whoops
| 813 |
Stephen T. Thu, Jul 28, 2011 8:36:36am |
re: #28 Obdicut
Romney however, managed only a weasel-worded abdication of any real position.
Seriously, the guy wants to be president and he can't actually make a commitment that means anything. He says so much nothing. Obama has some broken promises on his list, but he's got far more promises fulfilled. Romney hasn't even let us know what the fuck he'd do.
He does understand he's running for President, right? It's a position that requires quite a lot of communication of your agenda with the people.
Romney isn't running for President yet. He's running for nomination, first.
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