Robert Spencer Joins Pat Robertson: The Media Loves Radical Islam

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Together at last — raving anti-Muslim bigots Pat Robertson and Robert Spencer, on Robertson’s TV show “The 700 Club,” explaining to their delusional audience that the media and the left wing are a bunch of no-good Muslim-lovers.

The Geller-Spencer crowd hasn’t even slowed down in the wake of the Oslo atrocities. On the contrary, they’ve ratcheted up the rhetoric and are using the terror attacks to further inflame their followers.

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1 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:22:06am

Reposted: The most obvious common denominator of "the Left" and Islam is that they are hated by the Christian Right, methinks. Though, I admit I found this explananation of the assumed alliance between "the Left" and Islam ("muslims are the poor rabble, and the Left loves the poor rabble and both worship the G'd of equality") … fascinating, too.

2 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:22:12am
The Geller-Spencer crowd hasn’t even slowed down in the wake of the Oslo atrocities.

If anything it seems to have amped them up. They were the victims after all. //

3 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:24:01am

Pamela Geller has directed another blast of venom in my direction today, too.

She's very upset that LGF readers are posting comments at Amazon, to let people know what kind of racist Neanderthal wrote her book.

Here's the Amazon page: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

4 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:25:16am
you want to embrace something out of the Eighth Century B.C. that restricts the role of women and causes hideous fighting, jihad, the killing of innocent civilians? Why do you embrace that? And you ask yourself, the media in America, why do you embrace that?

Irony alert.

5 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:25:25am

The history of the 700 club is a very sordid one, financially. I highly recommend the documentary The Eyes of Tammy Faye for an idiosyncratic look at it.

6 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:25:37am

re: #2 Bulworth

If anything it seems to have amped them up. They were the victims after all. //

they don't retreat, they reload...

7 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:28:56am

re: #4 Bulworth

Irony alert.

They must have the Alanis Morrissette understanding of irony. =P

8 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:29:53am

Shows like this are one of the main reasons the US is so ill-informed.

9 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:30:42am

The right wing blogs have decided on another line of counter-attack -- they're claiming I'm "obsessed" with Pamela Geller.

Pathetically predictable.

10 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:31:08am

8th Century BC?!?

11 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:31:11am

Ever since their hero right-wing terrorist Breivik slaughtered nearly 70 children right-wing terrorist facilitators like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have in fact accelerated and turned up the heat on their extremist rhetoric. Breivik is a catalyst and motivator for these deranged people and their cult following.

12 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:31:39am

re: #9 Charles

The right wing blogs have decided on another line of counter-attack -- they're claiming I'm "obsessed" with Pamela Geller.

Pathetically predictable.

Funny, I would be prepared to swear that it's the other way around.

13 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:32:09am

re: #12 thedopefishlives

What's even funnier is that I know I said the exact same thing the LAST time the shrieking harpy claimed you were "obsessed" with her.

14 avanti  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:35:37am

re: #10 eclectic infidel

8th Century BC?!?

Yes, Islam was around 2000 years before God make the universe./

15 Big Steve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:36:47am

re: #9 Charles

they're claiming I'm "obsessed" with Pamela Geller.


Thanks ok.....I am glad Churchill was obsessed with Hitler too.

16 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:37:09am

re: #14 avanti

Yes, Islam was around 2000 years before God make the universe./

8th Century BC, 7th Century AD. Picky, picky. ///

17 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:37:17am

re: #9 Charles

The right wing blogs have decided on another line of counter-attack -- they're claiming I'm "obsessed" with Pamela Geller.

Pathetically predictable.

So, now's a good time to launch my "Charles Johnson VooDoo Doll"? Order now and I'll throw in extra pins*!!!

*(plus shipping and handling)

18 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:38:48am

re: #9 Charles

The right wing blogs have decided on another line of counter-attack -- they're claiming I'm "obsessed" with Pamela Geller.

Pathetically predictable.

It's the usual Twitter suspects. The funny thing to watch besides this latest meme is how some of the lower cultists have kept trying the "memory hole" bullshit over and over again. What frustrates them even more is that the media could care less -- they seem to think the media will take note. They won't of course and all eyes have been on Fjordman, Spencer and Geller from the get go. What these brain dead lice seem to have missed is that this attention goes far beyond Little Green Footballs. They're just pissed off that you and many of us here helped facilitate bringing this madness to the public.

19 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:40:02am

I'm not a Muslim hater, and I'm not a Muslim lover...if everything we think or do has to be termed one way or he other I quit

20 Big Steve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:40:57am

not related to pam's book but a question.....if you do a review of a book on Amazon does the author get to know who you are? I know you can put up whatever name you want but it does require your email. Does Amazon let authors know the commentor's email.

21 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:41:26am

There is a discussion of Geller herself on the "Pamela Geller" page at Amazon. Only four comments so far, split on whether she is truthful or hateful.

22 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:42:13am

re: #3 Charles

Pamela Geller has directed another blast of venom in my direction today, too.

She's very upset that LGF readers are posting comments at Amazon, to let people know what kind of racist Neanderthal wrote her book.

Here's the Amazon page: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

Publisher: WND Books

And that should tell you everything you need to know about the book.

23 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:42:35am

re: #3 Charles

Pamela Geller has directed another blast of venom in my direction today, too.

She's very upset that LGF readers are posting comments at Amazon, to let people know what kind of racist Neanderthal wrote her book.

Here's the Amazon page: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

Heh, She's the top result for Hate Speech

24 allegro  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:42:50am

Just sounds like a substitution for n-lover. Comes from the same sources. Ugly bigots all.

25 Obdicut  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:43:50am

re: #18 Gus 802

It's intresting to look at the difference between this and the Weiner thing. I mean, quite different stories, but still instructive.

Moderates and those on the 'left' defended Weiner at first becaues the source was Breitbart, who's a liar and a con-man. But as soon as it became obvious what had gone down, people became pissed at him, stopped defending him.

In this case, Brevick is clearly a seamless part of the anti-Islam right wing. His opinions are barely distinguishable from theirs, except that his are rather more explicit. And yet they can't deal with this, they try to deny any connection with him, they try to claim he's really a liberal, they try to claim that there's no relationship between his views and theirs. The number of them who are trying to learn anything from the incident is very, very low.

26 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:44:19am

re: #19 albusteve

I'm not a Muslim hater, and I'm not a Muslim lover...if everything we think or do has to be termed one way or he other I quit

Of course, it's a false dichotomy. Individuals first, identities second.

27 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:44:22am

re: #21 wrenchwench

There is a discussion of Geller herself on the "Pamela Geller" page at Amazon. Only four comments so far, split on whether she is truthful or hateful.

She and the rest of her idiot seed cult following think we've been going to Amazon and leaving comments. I sure haven't gone there to comment on her or her stupid book which I have no plans on even giving a cursory glance. I've seen that claim already though. That "Lizard are going to Amazon..." and blah, blah, blah. They are of course serious home bound paranoids.

28 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:46:24am

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Publisher: WND Books

And that should tell you everything you need to know about the book.

I didn't know she is also a contributor there.

29 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:46:47am

re: #19 albusteve

I'm not a Muslim hater, and I'm not a Muslim lover...if everything we think or do has to be termed one way or he other I quit

So, chocolate--love or hate?
Pasta?
Squid?
Air freshener?
Wall to Wall Carpet?
Edgar Allan Poe?

It's time to get off the fence and decide, Steve.

30 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:48:38am

re: #3 Charles

Pamela Geller has directed another blast of venom in my direction today, too.

She's very upset that LGF readers are posting comments at Amazon, to let people know what kind of racist Neanderthal wrote her book.

Here's the Amazon page: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

Somebody left this comment:

About time someone told the truth about the scourge of Judaism

The comment itself is what we have been saying here at LGF (and may have been posted by a lizard) but the attention-grabbing title just creeped me the fuck out.

31 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:48:42am

re: #29 EmmmieG

So, chocolate--love or hate?
Pasta?
Squid?
Air freshener?
Wall to Wall Carpet?
Edgar Allan Poe?

It's time to get off the fence and decide, Steve.


Love
Angel Hair
Bait
No
Hard wood
If he brings the drugs.

32 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:49:14am

re: #28 Cannadian Club Akbar

I didn't know she is also a contributor there.

Weekly World News had more journalistic integrity than WND.

33 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:49:28am

Speaking of pathetic. The idea that "the media loves radical Islam" is extremely pathetic. Spencer of course is rationalizing this. Robert Spencer thinks the media hates him therefore if anyone who hates Spencer has to obviously "love radical Islam." Same crap the mouth breathers say about us at LGF. That if we despise Geller, Fjordman, and Spencer that the only logical conclusion is that we "love radical Islam" and are being paid by CAIR or the Muslim Brotherhood. They're on drugs or something.

34 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:50:13am

re: #30 Alouette

Somebody left this comment:

About time someone told the truth about the scourge of Judaism

The comment itself is what we have been saying here at LGF (and may have been posted by a lizard) but the attention-grabbing title just creeped me the fuck out.

Wow, that's taking Godwin to a whole new level. But, sad to say, Hitler/Nazi comparisons are somewhat apropos in this whole discussion due to the wholesale, generalized nature of what Crazy Pam et al. are proposing.

35 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:50:13am

re: #25 Obdicut

It's intresting to look at the difference between this and the Weiner thing. I mean, quite different stories, but still instructive.

Moderates and those on the 'left' defended Weiner at first becaues the source was Breitbart, who's a liar and a con-man. But as soon as it became obvious what had gone down, people became pissed at him, stopped defending him.

In this case, Brevick is clearly a seamless part of the anti-Islam right wing. His opinions are barely distinguishable from theirs, except that his are rather more explicit. And yet they can't deal with this, they try to deny any connection with him, they try to claim he's really a liberal, they try to claim that there's no relationship between his views and theirs. The number of them who are trying to learn anything from the incident is very, very low.

A major indicator of an open-vs-closed mind. One looks at information and changes opinions and actions accordingly. The other is already sure what is true or right and likes data that supports the view while denying the truth of all other data.

36 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:50:15am

First he adds Herman Cain to the list of Muslim Brotherhood lovers. Now, Frank Gaffney is playing the "FALSE FLAG!!!" card with the Norway killer:

Gaffney Wonders If Norwegian Terrorist’s Manifesto Was A ‘False Flag Operation’ Intended To ‘Suppress Criticism’ Of Sharia

Aren't there medications out there that help with paranoid delusions? Maybe Frank should consider investing in some.

37 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:50:34am

re: #30 Alouette

And it's prone to very easy misinterpretation too. IOW, "don't do that".

38 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:51:11am

re: #36 Lidane

First he adds Herman Cain to the list of Muslim Brotherhood lovers. Now, Frank Gaffney is playing the "FALSE FLAG!!!" card with the Norway killer:

Gaffney Wonders If Norwegian Terrorist’s Manifesto Was A ‘False Flag Operation’ Intended To ‘Suppress Criticism’ Of Sharia

Aren't there medications out there that help with paranoid delusions? Maybe Frank should consider investing in some.

It all makes sense once you factor in the fact that Gaffney is a fucking idiot.

39 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:52:17am

re: #37 Sergey Romanov

And it's prone to very easy misinterpretation too. IOW, "don't do that".

And it may end up as a magnet for the shitcakes who really do agree with the title.

40 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:52:41am

re: #33 Gus 802

Speaking of pathetic. The idea that "the media loves radical Islam" is extremely pathetic. Spencer of course is rationalizing this. Robert Spencer thinks the media hates him therefore if anyone who hates Spencer has to obviously "love radical Islam." Same crap the mouth breathers say about us at LGF. That if we despise Geller, Fjordman, and Spencer that the only logical conclusion is that we "love radical Islam" and are being paid by CAIR or the Muslim Brotherhood. They're on drugs or something.

And they complain that people are trying to "shut them up". No, no! Please, keep talking! Keep writing! It's all going into the record!

41 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:53:08am

re: #34 thedopefishlives

Wow, that's taking Godwin to a whole new level. But, sad to say, Hitler/Nazi comparisons are somewhat apropos in this whole discussion due to the wholesale, generalized nature of what Crazy Pam et al. are proposing.

Not a "godwin" when it's right. I've read enough antisemitic lit written throughout the centuries to notice that it is almost completely isomorphic to what Pam and Co. are churning out, down to particulars. The only thing missing is some sort of a blood libel analogy, but I'm sure that may be forthcoming.

42 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:54:40am

re: #41 Sergey Romanov

Not a "godwin" when it's right. I've read enough antisemitic lit written throughout the centuries to notice that it is almost completely isomorphic to what Pam and Co. are churning out, down to particulars. The only thing missing is some sort of a blood libel analogy, but I'm sure that may be forthcoming.

(I'm not talking about Der Stuermer-level lit, though, but of the literature of publicistic and pseudo-academic character.)

43 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:55:49am

re: #41 Sergey Romanov

Not a "godwin" when it's right. I've read enough antisemitic lit written throughout the centuries to notice that it is almost completely isomorphic to what Pam and Co. are churning out, down to particulars. The only thing missing is some sort of a blood libel analogy, but I'm sure that may be forthcoming.

Well, Crazy Pam does throw the phrase "blood libel" around a lot, so in a sense you've already got it. In fact, didn't someone last week post that she used that phrase in connection with this whole thing?

44 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:56:01am
And they complain that people are trying to "shut them up".

Actually that's their response whenever someone notices the crap they're saying and criticizes it or even just speaks less than adorationally about it. Anyone who observes what they're saying is "trying to shut them down".

45 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:57:00am

re: #30 Alouette

Somebody left this comment:

About time someone told the truth about the scourge of Judaism

The comment itself is what we have been saying here at LGF (and may have been posted by a lizard) but the attention-grabbing title just creeped me the fuck out.

It was Jeffrey Goldberg's quip, originally. And he links to LGF. The author at Amazon mentioned Charles, but linked to Jeffrey, presumable to use the quip.

46 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:57:37am

re: #45 wrenchwench

I've read it there too, but there it's in context.

47 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:57:42am

re: #30 Alouette

Somebody left this comment:

About time someone told the truth about the scourge of Judaism

The comment itself is what we have been saying here at LGF (and may have been posted by a lizard) but the attention-grabbing title just creeped me the fuck out.

Yet he links to Jeffrey Goldberg (who links to LGF).

48 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:58:09am

Bachmann's foreign policy adviser: Frank Gaffney


His big foreign policy idea, which he's presumably counseling Bachmann on, is that is that there is a comprehensive plot by Islamic extremists to infiltrate the United States government and all other levels of society and destroy America as we know it. But then again, considering Bachmann once attended a conference dedicated to framing Middle Eastern politics in the context of End Times prophecy, Gaffney might be a step up.
49 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:58:23am
And they complain that people are trying to "shut them up".

That's the paradox they're in. They complain that no one takes them seriously or gives them any attention, but then when someone does give them attention and takes them seriously, "they're trying to shut them up".

50 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:58:33am

re: #46 Sergey Romanov

I've read it there too, but there it's in context.

Taking stuff out of context is always risky.

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:59:40am

re: #1 000G

Reposted: The most obvious common denominator of "the Left" and Islam is that they are hated by the Christian Right, methinks. Though, I admit I found this explananation of the assumed alliance between "the Left" and Islam ("muslims are the poor rabble, and the Left loves the poor rabble and both worship the G'd of equality") … fascinating, too.

Let me see if I've got this straight--Jesus was a Muslim?

52 dragonfire1981  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 11:59:41am

Charles, Pam deserves the attention you give her. I am glad there is someone out there keeping an eye on her and continually pointing out what she really is (lying, bigoted and manipulative) when plenty of right wing sources (including Fox News) are promoting her and legitimize her views.

I see Geller as a paranoid person with a computer and too much time on her hands. Where would someone like her have ended up in the days before the internet? Just another fringe whacko. Unfortunately thanks to the web she's gotten way more publicity and interest than she really deserves.

We used to call people like her "crazy". Now we call them pundits.

53 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:01:17pm

re: #49 Bulworth

That's the paradox they're in. They complain that no one takes them seriously or gives them any attention, but then when someone does give them attention and takes them seriously, "they're trying to shut them up".

Plus, when someone puts what they've been saying into action, they claim he wasn't one of them

54 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:01:44pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

Let me see if I've got this straight--Jesus was a Muslim?

Yeah, Jesus loved the poor rable. That was a major complaint against him. "This man eats with sinners and Publicans".

55 allegro  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:02:17pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

And they complain that people are trying to "shut them up". No, no! Please, keep talking! Keep writing! It's all going into the record!

It's like the email I got this morning wanting me to sign a petition to get Goodhair Perry to back away from the nutjob theocrats. Oh hell no I won't do that! I want everyone to see the company this guy keeps and the people he admires. Shout it from the rooftops even.

56 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:02:29pm

re: #52 dragonfire1981

Are you trying to undermine the rights of thousands of insane American to representation in the political arena?
/

57 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:03:03pm

Jihad at Fort Hood, again – where are media?

Does this title make sense or am I an idiot?

58 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:03:22pm

Ha! Check out this psycho Tweet...

@AmPowerBlog Donald Douglas
@RSMcCain Check my link [link removed] if you post on #LGF stalking Pamela Geller: [link removed] @Killg0reTr0ut @Gus_802 #Freaks
11 minutes ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply

Poor Donald. I tell ya' they're pretty damn angry.

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:04:32pm

re: #34 thedopefishlives

Wow, that's taking Godwin to a whole new level. But, sad to say, Hitler/Nazi comparisons are somewhat apropos in this whole discussion due to the wholesale, generalized nature of what Crazy Pam et al. are proposing.

I don't Godwin easily.

Pam talks like a Nazi, and so do her friends.

60 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:05:04pm

re: #58 Gus 802

I've got to tell you, I can't even read that.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:05:38pm

re: #41 Sergey Romanov

Not a "godwin" when it's right. I've read enough antisemitic lit written throughout the centuries to notice that it is almost completely isomorphic to what Pam and Co. are churning out, down to particulars. The only thing missing is some sort of a blood libel analogy, but I'm sure that may be forthcoming.

The similarities are almost of a cut-and-paste quality.

62 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:05:49pm

Hmmm.

[Link: www.handelsblatt.com...]

Jeder dritte Berliner findet Mauer nicht falsch
03.08.2011, 10:21 Uhr

Den Bau der Berliner Mauer vor 50 Jahren hält ein gutes Drittel der Berliner nach einer Umfrage nicht für falsch. Die Forsa-Erhebung im Auftrag der «Berliner Zeitung» ergab, das 10 Prozent der Befragten den Mauerbau «voll und ganz richtig» finden, weitere 25 Prozent teilweise für richtig.

10% of Berliners think that the Berlin Wall erection was fully justified, and 25% think it was partially justified.

63 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:07:25pm

re: #62 Sergey Romanov

Hmmm.

[Link: www.handelsblatt.com...]

Jeder dritte Berliner findet Mauer nicht falsch
03.08.2011, 10:21 Uhr

Den Bau der Berliner Mauer vor 50 Jahren hält ein gutes Drittel der Berliner nach einer Umfrage nicht für falsch. Die Forsa-Erhebung im Auftrag der «Berliner Zeitung» ergab, das 10 Prozent der Befragten den Mauerbau «voll und ganz richtig» finden, weitere 25 Prozent teilweise für richtig.

10% of Berliners think that the Berlin Wall erection was fully justified, and 25% think it was partially justified.

What about shooting people who tried to go over? What percent think that was justified?

64 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:07:29pm

re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar

Jihad at Fort Hood, again – where are media?

Does this title make sense or am I an idiot?

I'm assuming they're talking about whathisname, something Abdo, who they intercepted?

65 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:08:17pm

Rep. Allen West's (Very, Very) Stealth Jihad

Islam isn't the enemy, Leitner explained. The Muslim Brotherhood is the enemy. But if that's really the case, the anti-Muslim-Brotherhood crowd forgot to tell their chief congressional benefactor. Although West has said in interviews he has no problems with individual Muslims (some of his best friends...), he has called the religion itself a "vile and very vicious enemy." At a campaign event in 2010, he took on "Coexist" bumper stickers that advocate religious tolerance, arguing that they're a sign of timidity in the face of Islam: "We are afraid to stand up and confront that which is the antithesis, anathema of who we are." He continued:

We already have a Fifth Column that is already infiltrating into our colleges, into our universities, into our high schools, into our religious aspect, our cultural aspect, our financial, our political systems in this country. And that enemy represents something called Islam. And Islam is a totalitarian theocratic political ideology; it is not a religion. It has not been a religion since 622 A.D., and we need to have individuals that stand up and say that.

Folks like West and the CFNS want to have it both ways. They cast as wide a net as possible and call for the Muslim Students Association to be classified as a terrorist group. But then they tell the handful of MSA members who attended Monday's presentation that no one is calling them terrorists. Islam isn't the enemy—except for when it is. Large groups aren't responsible for the actions of a few fringe members—except for when they are.

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:08:23pm

re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm assuming they're talking about whathisname, something Abdo, who they intercepted?

Yes. But I meant the basic structure.

67 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:10:09pm

re: #62 Sergey Romanov

Hmmm.

[Link: www.handelsblatt.com...]

Jeder dritte Berliner findet Mauer nicht falsch
03.08.2011, 10:21 Uhr

Den Bau der Berliner Mauer vor 50 Jahren hält ein gutes Drittel der Berliner nach einer Umfrage nicht für falsch. Die Forsa-Erhebung im Auftrag der «Berliner Zeitung» ergab, das 10 Prozent der Befragten den Mauerbau «voll und ganz richtig» finden, weitere 25 Prozent teilweise für richtig.

10% of Berliners think that the Berlin Wall erection was fully justified, and 25% think it was partially justified.

Just the thought of the Berlin Wall gives me an erection...sorry, this is a real trap for non-natives.

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:10:22pm

re: #65 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rep. Allen West's (Very, Very) Stealth Jihad

I've had people tell me to my face that Judaism is fundamentally racist, militaristic, intent on taking over the world--but they trust that I don't know about that because I've also been lied to, and told that this is just a nice religion about God and family and good deeds and stuff.

Same routine.

It's a weird, sickening feeling when they get going on it.

69 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:10:33pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

The similarities are almost of a cut-and-paste quality.

Or search & replace ;)

Evil conspiracies with tentacles of unholy influence everywhere, blaming everyone for the deeds of the few, concentrating only on certain places in religious scriptures and accompanying tradition/commentary, mostly misinterpreted or even falsified, and in any way taken out of the context of their times (parallels in claims here are most striking).

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:10:50pm

re: #66 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes. But I meant the basic structure.

Awkward, but it is a headline.

71 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:11:31pm

re: #63 EmmmieG

Some people prefer not to remember. Easier for them.

72 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:12:06pm

re: #62 Sergey Romanov

There was a joke circulting in WEest Germany after the fall of the Berlin Wall that ex East German Party Boss Erich Hoenecker should receive the Medal of Honor for keeing the East Germans off their backs for the past 40 years...

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:12:20pm

re: #69 Sergey Romanov

Or search & replace ;)

Evil conspiracies with tentacles of unholy influence everywhere, blaming everyone for the deeds of the few, concentrating only on certain places in religious scriptures and accompanying tradition/commentary, mostly misinterpreted or even falsified, and in any way taken out of the context of their times (parallels in claims here are most striking).

Condemnation of ritual slaughter, the obsession with the men of the Other group seeking out and defiling young maidens of the Us group...

74 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:12:56pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

I've had people tell me to my face that Judaism is fundamentally racist, militaristic, intent on taking over the world--but they trust that I don't know about that because I've also been lied to, and told that this is just a nice religion about God and family and good deeds and stuff.

Same routine.

It's a weird, sickening feeling when they get going on it.

It's in the TALMUD! Haven't you ever read the TALMUD!! I mean, who hasn't sat down and read the Talmud over the weekend, like the latest bestseller?

//It only took Zedushka 20 years to complete his first cycle of Shas

75 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:13:45pm

OMG! Drudge Top Story
OBAMA CELEBRATES DEBT HIKE:
1,700-CALORIE BURGER BINGE

76 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:14:09pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

Condemnation of ritual slaughter, the obsession with the men of the Other group seeking out and defiling young maidens of the Us group...

And the foreskins! Think of those little baby foreskins!

77 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:14:51pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

OMG! Drudge Top Story
OBAMA CELEBRATES DEBT HIKE:
1,700-CALORIE BURGER BINGE

Who the fuck cares? Seriously Drudge, WTF?

78 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:15:02pm

re: #74 Alouette

It's in the TALMUD! Haven't you ever read the TALMUD!! I mean, who hasn't sat down and read the Talmud over the weekend, like the latest bestseller?

//It only took Zedushka 20 years to complete his first cycle of Shas

Light beach reading.

I'm moving onto college physics textbooks next.

79 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:16:02pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

1,700-CALORIE BURGER BINGE

So Obama ate at McDonald's?

80 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:16:24pm

re: #78 EmmmieG

When you're done with that, you get to graduate to reading the Internal Revenue Code and Treasury Regs. /

81 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:17:15pm

re: #80 lawhawk

When you're done with that, you get to graduate to reading the Internal Revenue Code and Treasury Regs. /

Or the Uniform Commercial Code.

I had to read the entire UCC before starting a business law class in undergrad. Talk about an amazing insomnia cure.

82 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:17:55pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

OMG! Drudge Top Story
OBAMA CELEBRATES DEBT HIKE:
1,700-CALORIE BURGER BINGE

FANCY MUSTARD USURPER BALROG HOTPOCKET FARTBONGO!!!

83 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:18:18pm

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who the fuck cares? Seriously Drudge, WTF?

The lefties were pretty stupid over petty stuff in the Bush years but every time Obama has lunch the wingnuts freak out.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:18:53pm

re: #77 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who the fuck cares? Seriously Drudge, WTF?

I have never seen anything like this obsession with what the President eats. Not even with Clinton, who was criticized for being fat. All I know about George W.'s family's eating habits is that they like Tex-Mex (big surprise), they hired the chef the Obamas kept, and George doesn't like sauteed fish.

I learned ALL of that in a fluff article about the White House kitchen after the last election.

Now, every time an Obama eats something, there's a whole cottage industry built around letting me know.

I like the man OK. I voted for him. I'll do it again without pain. But I really could care less what he EATS. This goes, like, triple for his wife.

85 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:19:07pm

Another drudge headline: Pushes Fatty Milkshake on 11-Year-Old Boy...
/Not kidding

86 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:19:25pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

The lefties were pretty stupid over petty stuff in the Bush years but every time Obama has lunch the wingnuts freak out.

ARUGULA! DIJON MUSTARD! 1700 CALORIE BURGER MEAL!

87 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:19:42pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

The lefties were pretty stupid over petty stuff in the Bush years but every time Obama has lunch the wingnuts freak out.

I think the statute of limitation has run out on what the left did during the Bush years. The right wing is on stage now and they surpassed any form of derangement displayed by the left during that time.

88 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:20:20pm

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

I have never seen anything like this obsession with what the President eats. Not even with Clinton, who was criticized for being fat. All I know about George W.'s family's eating habits is that they like Tex-Mex (big surprise), they hired the chef the Obamas kept, and George doesn't like sauteed fish.

I learned ALL of that in a fluff article about the White House kitchen after the last election.

Now, every time an Obama eats something, there's a whole cottage industry built around letting me know.

I like the man OK. I voted for him. I'll do it again without pain. But I really could care less what he EATS. This goes, like, triple for his wife.

I remember there was quite a dustup when Bush the Elder refused to eat broccoli.

89 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:20:33pm

re: #86 Lidane

Yeah. One would think eatin' like a real Murican, a good ole burger without fancy arugula and such, would do the trick. And yet...

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:21:05pm

re: #87 Gus 802

I think the statute of limitation has run out on what the left did during the Bush years. The right wing is on stage now and they surpassed any form of derangement displayed by the left during that time.

I'm just wondering if the craziness will go back down when a Republican gets back in office, or if the whole thing will just keep ramping upward for all eternity.

91 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:21:11pm

Bryan Fischer proves once again that his brain and mouth have no actual connection; declares we should launch genocidal war against...bears.

Bryan Fischer: Shoot these man-eaters on sight


Instead of shooting these Jeffrey Dahmers of the animal kingdom, officials in Grand Teton National Park are now prohibiting people in cars from even watching grizzlies if they are less than 100 yards away. This comes in the wake of two incidents in which a female grizzly charged at people watching her from on top of their cars. Yellowstone is about to adopt the same policy.

Last month’s mauling was the third fatal attack by grizzlies in the Yellowstone area in just over a year.

It’s time to shoot these man-eaters on sight. Human life is of infinitely more value than the life of a grizzly. If it’s a choice between a man and a grizzly bear, the grizzly bear is going down. Let’s get back to Scripture, and spend less time saving grizzlies and more time protecting creatures made in the image of God.

92 iossarian  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:21:21pm

re: #89 Sergey Romanov

Yeah. One would think eatin' like a real Murican, a good ole burger without fancy arugula and such, would do the trick. And yet...

Eat Arugula?

ANTI-AMERICAN USURPER!!!

Eat burger?

ANTI-AMERICAN USURPER!!!

Eat cheese?

ANTI-AM ok, you get the picture.

93 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:21:41pm

For dinner tonight, I am trying something new: eggplant tagine. Zedushka is totally freaking out. There is some frozen pizza for him.

94 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:22:01pm

re: #87 Gus 802

I think the statute of limitation has run out on what the left did during the Bush years. The right wing is on stage now and they surpassed any form of derangement displayed by the left during that time.

I don't know about that. The wingnuts have certainly surpassed the moonbats but I still think it's important to remember. There won;t be a Republican President for quite some time but when it happen the lefties will go nuts again.

95 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:22:06pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer proves once again that his brain and mouth have no actual connection; declares we should launch genocidal war against...bears.

Bryan Fischer: Shoot these man-eaters on sight

Stephen Colbert just called. He wants his meme back.

96 iossarian  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:22:25pm

re: #93 Alouette

For dinner tonight, I am trying something new: eggplant tagine.

ANTI-AMERICAN USURPER AND EMPLOYEE OF GUBMINT-BACKED CAR INDUSTRY!!!

97 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:22:43pm

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

It's because Michele pushes healthy eating and a burger isn't healthy.

98 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:22:52pm

re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just wondering if the craziness will go back down when a Republican gets back in office, or if the whole thing will just keep ramping upward for all eternity.

Hard to say.

99 SpaceJesus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:23:01pm

Bow before the might of Muhammed-Stalin, Western weaklings!

100 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:23:06pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer proves once again that his brain and mouth have no actual connection; declares we should launch genocidal war against...bears.

Bryan Fischer: Shoot these man-eaters on sight

Elisha the prophet had pet bears that he sicced on some teenagers who made fun of his male pattern baldness.

101 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:23:10pm

What will these people do in 6 years, when the Obamas retire to run a foundation for the development of young black women leaders? I could see a lot of existentialist suicides.

102 Simply Sarah  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:23:12pm

re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just wondering if the craziness will go back down when a Republican gets back in office, or if the whole thing will just keep ramping upward for all eternity.

I'm not sure the country could survive whatever another ramping up on this would look like.

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:23:16pm

re: #88 Alouette

I remember there was quite a dustup when Bush the Elder refused to eat broccoli.

I do recall the broccoli flap--my feeling is, once you've become President of the United States, you're allowed to pick a vegetable you don't like and not eat it.

But it was a joke. I don't recall people obsessively tracking Bush Sr. vegetable intake.

(Unfortunately, the other food-related story I recall about Bush Sr. involves him throwing up on Miyazawa Kiichi.)

104 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:23:48pm

re: #97 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's because Michele pushes healthy eating and a burger isn't healthy.

Healthy eating doesn't mean no burgers once in a while...

105 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:24:09pm

re: #93 Alouette

For dinner tonight, I am trying something new: eggplant tagine. Zedushka is totally freaking out. There is some frozen pizza for him.

Good luck, sounds good.

106 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:24:23pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer proves once again that his brain and mouth have no actual connection; declares we should launch genocidal war against...bears.

Bryan Fischer: Shoot these man-eaters on sight

Jesus, is he back on killing all the grizzlies?

Buffoon. EVIL buffoon.

107 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:25:01pm

re: #93 Alouette

For dinner tonight, I am trying something new: eggplant tagine. Zedushka is totally freaking out. There is some frozen pizza for him.

I'll eat his share, if I can figure out how to get to your place by dinner time.

108 allegro  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:25:08pm

re: #90 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just wondering if the craziness will go back down when a Republican gets back in office, or if the whole thing will just keep ramping upward for all eternity.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering or I just didn't visit goofy sites, but the only really furious emotions I saw from lefties about Bush was over stuff that Bush actually did that were, I still think, kinda meaningful. Couple of unfunded wars, illegal wiretapping, outing a CIA agent, trashing habeus corpus... that kinda stuff.

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:25:14pm

re: #104 Sergey Romanov

Healthy eating doesn't mean no burgers once in a while...

I know.

110 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:25:16pm

re: #100 Alouette

Elisha the prophet had pet bears that he sicced on some teenagers who made fun of his male pattern baldness.

"I'm not a bigot. Some of my best friends are bears."

111 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:25:19pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

Jesus, is he back on killing all the grizzlies?

Buffoon. EVIL buffoon.

Bryan Fischer. Spiritual leader for the Republican Party. Nice ain't it?

112 iossarian  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:25:32pm

re: #100 Alouette

Elisha the prophet had pet bears that he sicced on some teenagers who made fun of his male pattern baldness.

I'd forgotten that one. There's some great randomness in the old books, when you look for it.

113 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:25:43pm

re: #99 SpaceJesus

Bow before the might of Muhammed-Stalin, Western weaklings!

Muhammed-Stalin is good. Reminds me of the Egyptian god-chaining.

114 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:26:09pm

The 700 Club! Everyone's favorite gibbering muppet

115 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:26:13pm

re: #104 Sergey Romanov

Healthy eating doesn't mean no burgers once in a while...

We were discussing this the other day. (A bunch of moms.) We're of the opinion that a super-strict eating policy is really bad for kids. They never learn how to moderate themselves and how to police their own diet.

116 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:26:16pm

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know.

They also know.

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:26:24pm

re: #97 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's because Michele pushes healthy eating and a burger isn't healthy.

I get where it comes from, but it started even before then--the tuna, and the arugula--and it's just silly. Michelle never said, "Never eat a burger again, America."

118 iossarian  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:26:32pm

re: #108 allegro

Maybe I'm mis-remembering or I just didn't visit goofy sites, but the only really furious emotions I saw from lefties about Bush was over stuff that Bush actually did that were, I still think, kinda meaningful. Couple of unfunded wars, illegal wiretapping, outing a CIA agent, trashing habeus corpus... that kinda stuff.

We have to look forwards. All that stuff is in the past.

119 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:26:57pm

re: #112 iossarian

I'd forgotten that one. There's some great randomness in the old books, when you look for it.

The needed that army of the undead to show up again in the new testament. Necromancers rock.

120 ProGunLiberal  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:27:01pm

re: #113 Sergey Romanov

How did that even work, anyway?

121 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:27:19pm
122 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:27:58pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

I've had people tell me to my face that Judaism America is fundamentally racist, militaristic, intent on taking over the world--but they trust that I don't know about that because I've also been lied to, and told that this is just a nice religion country about God and family and good deeds and stuff.

Same routine.

It's like there is a printed playbook for this sort of propaganda exercise. Though I've never seen a copy of it.

123 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:28:13pm

re: #120 ProLifeLiberal

How did that even work, anyway?

Magnets.

124 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:28:25pm

re: #120 ProLifeLiberal

How did that even work, anyway?

A matter of equivalency. You just say that Khepri, Ra and Atum are just really one god, and there you go - Khepri-Ra-Atum.

125 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:28:39pm

re: #117 SanFranciscoZionist

I get where it comes from, but it started even before then--the tuna, and the arugula--and it's just silly. Michelle never said, "Never eat a burger again, America."

She says eat healthy, he has a burger, so HA!!!!
He eats arugula, he's elitist.
I really need to send out memos.
/

126 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:29:18pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fischer can go screw himself. Having been to Grand Teton (The Big Tits!) and Yellowstone, I've seen grizzlies and black bears up close. Those rules are there for our safety.

Folks who get too close to those bears, especially with cubs run the risk of attack. The parks close areas off to public access (and they did while I was there in 2010) because the bears were in close contact with certain campgrounds and they didn't want to risk attacks.

Never mind that the grizzlies are part of a healthy ecosystem in the parks (and larger region). They, and other top level carnivores (like the grey wolves) cull elk, deer, and bison herds of weak animals - strengthening the herds and keeping their sizes reasonable to the grazing range.

127 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:29:35pm

re: #121 Dreggas

Ugh: Minnessota school sued over "Wigger Day"

i'm glad the uighurs are getting more attention in this country...

128 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:29:43pm

re: #108 allegro

Maybe I'm mis-remembering or I just didn't visit goofy sites, but the only really furious emotions I saw from lefties about Bush was over stuff that Bush actually did that were, I still think, kinda meaningful. Couple of unfunded wars, illegal wiretapping, outing a CIA agent, trashing habeus corpus... that kinda stuff.

Mostly, yes. Some of that got taken too far--Naomi Wolf going on about how the Bush Administration was intercepting her kid's letters from camp was just weird--but in general, it was less nutso than what we're seeing now, or at any rate, seemed less nutso to me.

I did once have to argue with some folks online about a weird article that basically said that there was something badly wrong with Bush since he liked to clear brush--but I just don't recall this same level of insanity.

129 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:29:52pm

re: #115 EmmmieG

We were discussing this the other day. (A bunch of moms.) We're of the opinion that a super-strict eating policy is really bad for kids. They never learn how to moderate themselves and how to police their own diet.

Also forcing you kid to stay at the table until he cleans his plate is a bad idea. My kids always could always have peanut butter or Cheerios if they didn't like what was on the family menu. They will just learn to hate whatever it is that you forced them to eat, and then your future daughter/son-in-law will be PISSED.

130 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:32:01pm

re: #129 Alouette

Also forcing you kid to stay at the table until he cleans his plate is a bad idea. My kids always could always have peanut butter or Cheerios if they didn't like what was on the family menu. They will just learn to hate whatever it is that you forced them to eat, and then your future daughter/son-in-law will be PISSED.

Our rule is: You put it on your plate, you must eat it.* We put it on your plate, you must try a little.

*Well obviously unless there is something actually wrong with the food.

131 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:32:06pm

re: #126 lawhawk

Fischer can go screw himself. Having been to Grand Teton (The Big Tits!) and Yellowstone, I've seen grizzlies and black bears up close. Those rules are there for our safety.

Folks who get too close to those bears, especially with cubs run the risk of attack. The parks close areas off to public access (and they did while I was there in 2010) because the bears were in close contact with certain campgrounds and they didn't want to risk attacks.

Never mind that the grizzlies are part of a healthy ecosystem in the parks (and larger region). They, and other top level carnivores (like the grey wolves) cull elk, deer, and bison herds of weak animals - strengthening the herds and keeping their sizes reasonable to the grazing range.

Whats this ecosystem bullshit? God gave us all that shit, he won't let us fuck it up.
/

132 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:32:39pm

re: #131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats this ecosystem bullshit? God gave us all that shit, he won't let us fuck it up.
/

Right. Just like he gave us our lives, and he wouldn't let us mess those up, right?

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:32:40pm

re: #131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats this ecosystem bullshit? God gave us all that shit, he won't let us fuck it up.
/

These people must be hell on their cars.

134 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:32:49pm

What is Fischer complaining about now?

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:33:12pm

re: #134 Bulworth

What is Fischer complaining about now?

Grizzly bears. Not new, he's hated them for years.

136 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:33:46pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Grizzly bears. Not new, he's hated them for years.


Let me guess. He wants open-season on them, or something.

137 allegro  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:34:08pm

re: #126 lawhawk

Fischer can go screw himself. Having been to Grand Teton (The Big Tits!) and Yellowstone, I've seen grizzlies and black bears up close. Those rules are there for our safety.

Folks who get too close to those bears, especially with cubs run the risk of attack. The parks close areas off to public access (and they did while I was there in 2010) because the bears were in close contact with certain campgrounds and they didn't want to risk attacks.

Never mind that the grizzlies are part of a healthy ecosystem in the parks (and larger region). They, and other top level carnivores (like the grey wolves) cull elk, deer, and bison herds of weak animals - strengthening the herds and keeping their sizes reasonable to the grazing range.

Thanks. I couldn't stop sputtering enough to even reply. You're dead on.

138 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:34:19pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Grizzly bears. Not new, he's hated them for years.

he should learn to respect his superiors

139 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:34:24pm

The President had a "toasted marshmallow shake". Interesting.

140 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:34:39pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Grizzly bears. Not new, he's hated them for years.

Maybe Bryan Fischer should take a hike!

//

141 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:34:59pm
These people must be hell on their cars.

God created motor oil and he created cars, both for mankind to exploit. //

142 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:35:05pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"... Jeffrey Dahmers of the animal kingdom ..."

It's true, other jerkwads of the animal kingdom include:

Alligators are the Gary Ridgeways of the animal kingdom.
Honey Badgers are the Clyde Barrows of the animal kingdom.
Raccoons are the DB Coopers of the animal kingdom.

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:35:27pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wait, hold on, this is real?

did Bryan Fischer just fall into a Stephen Colbert sketch?

144 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:35:54pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Grizzly bears. Not new, he's hated them for years.

If you go into bear country, you should be aware of grizzly bears and black bears. You should also wear bells and carry pepper spray to scare off the bears.

You can tell black bears because they are smaller and lack the distinctive hump that grizzlies have on their shoulders.

You can tell grizzlies because they are very large, and their scat contains bells and smells of pepper spray.

(Old joke.)

145 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:06pm

re: #130 EmmmieG

Our rule is: You put it on your plate, you must eat it.* We put it on your plate, you must try a little.

*Well obviously unless there is something actually wrong with the food.

Each of our kids was allowed two items that they never had to eat. Other than that the family rule was BLNM--Better Luck Next Meal.

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:18pm

re: #136 Bulworth

Let me guess. He wants open-season on them, or something.

He wants to exterminate them. Because they sometimes kill people. He thinks he has Biblical authority for this, but it sounds sort of suspiciously stupid to me.

147 allegro  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:21pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

It's true, other jerkwads of the animal kingdom include:

Alligators are the Gary Ridgeways of the animal kingdom.
Honey Badgers are the Clyde Barrows of the animal kingdom.
Raccoons are the DB Coopers of the animal kingdom.

Turd beetles are the wingnuts of the animal kingdom.

/sorry, had to

148 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:25pm

re: #139 Cannadian Club Akbar

The President had a "toasted marshmallow shake". Interesting.

ZOMG! HE TOASTED A MARSHMALLOW! MARSHMALLOWS ARE WHITE AND HE BURNED THEM! SEEKRIT MOOSLIM!

149 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:33pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

Hmm, I kinda assumed folks here were joking, but...

150 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:39pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

Wait, hold on, this is real?

did Bryan Fischer just fall into a Stephen Colbert sketch?

He posted a whole diatribe at AFA citing biblical references on why we should rise up and exterminate our Grizzly oppressors. I paged it as well.

151 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:49pm

re: #130 EmmmieG

"For we judge between the plate that is unclean and the plate that is clean, saying first, if the plate is clean, then you shall have dessert. But of the unclean plate, the laws are these: If you have eaten most of your meat, and two bites of your peas with each bite consisting of not less than three peas each, or in total six peas, eaten where I can see, and you have also eaten enough of your potatoes to fill two forks, both forkfuls eaten where I can see, then you shall have dessert. But if you eat a lesser number of peas, and yet you eat the potatoes, still you shall not have dessert; and if you eat the peas, yet leave the potatoes uneaten, you shall not have dessert, no, not even a small portion thereof. And if you try to deceive by moving the potatoes or peas around with a fork, that it may appear you have eaten what you have not, you will fall into iniquity. And I will know, and you shall have no dessert...."

-from "Lamentations of the Father" by Ian Frazier.

152 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:36:52pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

He wants to exterminate them. Because they sometimes kill people. He thinks he has Biblical authority for this, but it sounds sort of suspiciously stupid to me.

Elisha kept the bears, and killed the yoots.

153 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:37:22pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

He wants to exterminate them. Because they sometimes kill people. He thinks he has Biblical authority for this, but it sounds sort of suspiciously stupid to me.

Dogs kill more people than grizzlies. Far more. Maybe he has a bear phobia. Or something.

154 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:37:52pm

re: #150 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He posted a whole diatribe at AFA citing biblical references on why we should rise up and exterminate our Grizzly oppressors. I paged it as well.

that's hilarious


what's next, a holy war on high prices

155 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:38:01pm

re: #152 Alouette

Elisha kept the bears, and killed the yoots.


The what?

Yutes.

Did you say Yutes?

I'm sorry. Yooooths.

156 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:38:43pm

Speaking of Fischer...

@rightwingwatch Right Wing Watch
Santorum, Bachmann and Pawlenty teaming up with FRC, NOM and SBA List for "Values Voter Bus Tour" through Iowa:[Link: t.co...]

The Fischer connection is of course that he spoke at the Values Voter gathering.

157 Lidanghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:38:43pm

re: #152 Alouette

Elisha kept the bears, and killed the yoots.

158 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:38:53pm

re: #140 Gus 802

On the Appalachian? /

159 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:39:24pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

He wants to exterminate them. Because they sometimes kill people. He thinks he has Biblical authority for this, but it sounds sort of suspiciously stupid to me.

Proverbs 17:12 "Better to meet a bear that has lost her cubs, than a fool in his idiocy"

160 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:39:28pm

from Fischer's screed, bear attacks prove we have lost God's favor;

According to Scripture, a nation operating under God’s blessing and in obedience to his moral standards, in contrast, will have less and less to fear from predators. “If you walk in my statutes and observe my commandments and do them...I will remove harmful beasts from the land” (Leviticus 26:3, 6).

161 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:39:31pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

He wants to exterminate them. Because they sometimes kill people. He thinks he has Biblical authority for this, but it sounds sort of suspiciously stupid to me.

The authority is probably from when God made Man a master over the Earth and all animals?

162 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:39:42pm
163 iossarian  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:39:46pm

re: #154 WindUpBird

that's hilarious

what's next, a holy war on high prices

You think God enjoys paying $4 a gallon? Prepare for retribution.

Those fuckers running the BP franchise down my street will never know what hit them.

164 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:39:49pm

re: #158 lawhawk

On the Appalachian? /

Glacier National Park. Wearing lots of cologne.

//

165 theheat  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:39:51pm

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

The bears had collectively joined the War Against Christmas. They had it coming.
//

166 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:40:08pm

re: #153 Gus 802

Dogs kill more people than grizzlies. Far more. Maybe he has a bear phobia. Or something.

California state flag has a bear on it. San Francisco is in California. Therefore, bears are sekrit socialist mooselims. And everyone knows what they do in the woods...

///

167 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:40:44pm

re: #156 Gus 802

I find the way 'values voter" comes off the tongue to just be abominable :D

168 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:40:45pm

GOP Leaders Joining Religious Right Groups For "Values Voter Bus Tour" Through Iowa
Submitted by Kyle Mantyla on August 3, 2011 - 3:35pm

The Family Research Council has just announced that Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, Steve King, and Louie Gohmert will be joining FRC, the National Organization for Marriage and the Susan B. Anthony List for a ""Values Voter Bus Tour" through Iowa next week

...

169 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:40:48pm

Colbert will so be all over it.

170 Simply Sarah  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:40:52pm

re: #146 SanFranciscoZionist

He wants to exterminate them. Because they sometimes kill people. He thinks he has Biblical authority for this, but it sounds sort of suspiciously stupid to me.

But...people sometimes kill people too!

171 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:01pm

re: #153 Gus 802

Dogs kill more people than grizzlies. Far more. Maybe he has a bear phobia. Or something.

Sort of like how Stephen Colbert hates bears?

172 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:04pm

re: #153 Gus 802

Heck, I saw a factoid that claimed that more people were killed by pigs worldwide than by sharks (or bears).

Yet another reason to not dig on swine... (or maybe that is a reason to dig on swine).

173 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:32pm

re: #170 Simply Sarah

But...people sometimes kill people too!

Yesss, yesss, continue... / ;)

174 iossarian  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:35pm

re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

from Fischer's screed, bear attacks prove we have lost God's favor;

There's some great (i.e. insane) reverse logic going on there.

"If you walk in my ways I will remove violent beasts from the land."

Therefore, if we murder a bunch of bears, that PROVES we're a-ok with the big man upstairs. I rest my case.

175 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:44pm

Fischer's nightmare

Image: bear-cavalry.jpg

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:46pm

re: #163 iossarian

You think God enjoys paying $4 a gallon? Prepare for retribution.

Those fuckers running the BP franchise down my street will never know what hit them.

Another rapture? Fuck, I'm still drunk from the last one...
/

177 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:55pm

re: #167 WindUpBird

I find the way 'values voter" comes off the tongue to just be abominable :D

From my last link...

Brian Brown, president of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), made the following comments:

"President Obama has done virtually everything in his power to undermine the institution of marriage, including refusing to defend the bi-partisan Defense of Marriage Act signed into law by President Clinton. NOM is committed to ensuring that the next president is a strong and committed supporter of traditional marriage and will commit his or her administration to vigorously defending marriage in the courts, Congress and in the court of public opinion. We were the largest contributor to the effort to unseat the state judges who imposed same-sex marriage on Iowa by judicial fiat. We look forward to playing an extremely active role in encouraging the people of Iowa, including our tens of thousands of supporters, to make a difference in selecting an unambiguously pro-marriage candidate in Iowa."

178 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:41:57pm

re: #169 Sergey Romanov

Colbert will so be all over it.

He's probably got a team writing whole plotlines as we speak

179 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:42:29pm

They should totally make "Planet of the Bears".

180 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:42:36pm

re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Commie! /

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:42:44pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

Grizzly bears. Not new, he's hated them for years.

It’s time to shoot these man-eaters on sight. Human life is of infinitely more value than the life of a grizzly. If it’s a choice between a man and a grizzly bear, the grizzly bear is going down. Let’s get back to Scripture, and spend less time saving grizzlies and more time protecting creatures made in the image of God.

As far as I can tell, the idea is that:

a. In the Bible, wild animals loose on the land and harming humans is a punishment for the nation that turns away from God. (This makes sense in the context of the prophets. The disloyal nation is also devastated by war. Following war, due to reduction or relocation of population, wild animals will start to come out of the hills.)

b. Here in the United States, bears occasionally hurt or kill a human being.

c. This is due to our failure to follow scripture, by instead listening to leftists and protecting the wild animals.

d. If we follow the word of the Lord, and shoot every last grizzly bear in sight, they won't kill us, and we will be safe and righteous.

I think this kind of logic would leave Isaiah scratching his head and saying faintly, "I was thinking justice, and charity, and stuff, you know...?" But it seems to make some sort of sense to Fischer.

182 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:43:24pm

re: #180 lawhawk

Commie! /

Worse than you think. Those are gay commies.

THEY'RE BEARS RIDING BEARS!

183 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:43:35pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

Wait, hold on, this is real?

did Bryan Fischer just fall into a Stephen Colbert sketch?

This is totally real. Fischer is absolutely opposed to any sort of protection of animal species, and bears are a real sore spot, because they do occasionally attack people.

184 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:43:54pm

This seems a good time to plug one of my all time favorite SF/fantasy stories:
Bears Discover Fire

185 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:44:03pm

Okay, so why did Noah save the grizzlies?

186 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:44:40pm

re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist

This is totally real. Fischer is absolutely opposed to any sort of protection of animal species, and bears are a real sore spot, because they do occasionally attack people.

Then give him a swatter, and send him out to eliminate the mosquito.

187 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:44:46pm

re: #185 Sergey Romanov

Okay, so why did Noah save the grizzlies?

To test our faith at a later date.

//

188 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:45:09pm

re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist

This is totally real. Fischer is absolutely opposed to any sort of protection of animal species, and bears are a real sore spot, because they do occasionally attack people.

revenge, the law of the wild....grizzlies were hunted to near extinction once

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:45:20pm

re: #149 Sergey Romanov

Hmm, I kinda assumed folks here were joking, but...

No.

190 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:45:28pm

re: #182 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Worse than you think. Those are gay commies.

THEY'RE BEARS RIDING BEARS!

191 theheat  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:46:21pm

re: #183 SanFranciscoZionist

Fischer, and really the GOP as a party. Bear, wolves, mustangs - whatever. Kill it & Drill it politics.

192 AK-47%  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:46:40pm

re: #188 albusteve

revenge, the law of the wild...grizzlies were hunted to near extinction once


This is another example of the "Republicans got 98% of what they wanted but are still dissatisfied" rule:

We have wiped bears off of 98% of their previous range, but now Fischer wants to clear them off the reamaining 2%.

193 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:46:46pm

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

No.

I hope with everything in me that this becomes a Thing, and that every GOP candidate for president has to address the Bear Threat in 2012

194 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:46:59pm

re: #160 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

from Fischer's screed, bear attacks prove we have lost God's favor;

Or, people could just move to the cities, where they are less likely to be eated by bears. Don't know. Just a suggestion.

195 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:47:19pm

re: #161 Sergey Romanov

The authority is probably from when God made Man a master over the Earth and all animals?

Yes, but it's also got to do with the other references to a land free of wild animals being a sign of favor from God--which, as I said above, makes sense, since steady settlement and farming/hunting will drive dangerous animals away from where the people live.

196 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:47:26pm

I even know how Freud would explain Fischer's bear fantasies. /

197 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:47:32pm

re: #191 theheat

Fischer, and really the GOP as a party. Bear, wolves, mustangs - whatever. Kill it & Drill it politics.

pave it and enslave it!

198 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:47:46pm

re: #175 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fischer's nightmare

Image: bear-cavalry.jpg

Fisher has sent an emissary to seek an alliance with the penguins.

199 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:47:48pm

re: #194 Bulworth

Or, people could just move to the cities, where they are less likely to be eated by bears. Don't know. Just a suggestion.

City folk are not Real Americans.

200 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:47:51pm

re: #196 Sergey Romanov

I even know how Freud would explain Fischer's bear fantasies. /

Freud: 'You're a fucking furry."

Fischer: "lol."

201 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:48:51pm

re: #196 Sergey Romanov

I even know how Freud would explain Fischer's bear fantasies. /

A bear must have fucked his sister in high school or something.

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:48:52pm

re: #174 iossarian

There's some great (i.e. insane) reverse logic going on there.

"If you walk in my ways I will remove violent beasts from the land."

Therefore, if we murder a bunch of bears, that PROVES we're a-ok with the big man upstairs. I rest my case.

The sticking point for me seems to be that the text says that GOD will remove the beasts, not that we should shoot them all ourselves.

203 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:48:52pm

re: #199 Decatur Deb

City folk are not Real Americans.

And Northern Virginians aren't Real Virginians.

/

204 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:48:55pm

re: #191 theheat

Fischer, and really the GOP as a party. Bear, wolves, mustangs - whatever. Kill it & Drill it politics.

I doubt it

205 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:49:23pm

re: #203 Gus 802

And Northern Virginians aren't Real Virginians.

/

New Mexicans are not even real people

206 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:49:27pm
We were the largest contributor to the effort to unseat the state judges who imposed same-sex marriage on Iowa by judicial fiat.

And now we've got legislatures imposing same-sex marriage by legislative fiat. //

207 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:49:38pm

re: #200 WindUpBird

Freud: 'You're a fucking furry."

Fischer: "lol."

Furries, bears, Russia... What could go wrong?

Totally NSFW:

208 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:49:51pm

re: #193 WindUpBird

I hope with everything in me that this becomes a Thing, and that every GOP candidate for president has to address the Bear Threat in 2012

Stop the Ursafication of America!

209 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:50:12pm

re: #205 albusteve

New Mexicans are not even real people

They're aliens from another planet.

//

210 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:50:48pm

re: #207 Sergey Romanov

yes, this is now a thing I am bookmarking to show my stoned friends

211 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:50:50pm

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Then give him a swatter, and send him out to eliminate the mosquito.

I was thinking a seal-imitating wetsuit and sending him out on an ice floe to deal with the orca...

212 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:50:57pm

re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist

The sticking point for me seems to be that the text says that GOD will remove the beasts, not that we should shoot them all ourselves.

God helps those who help themselves. That's in the Bible. ///

Actually, it's not but a lot of wingnuts think it is.

213 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:51:04pm

re: #207 Sergey Romanov

Furries, bears, Russia... What could go wrong?

Totally NSFW:

[Video]

Won't click on it. Have you seen the sexi Babushka?

214 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:51:11pm

re: #206 Bulworth

And now we've got legislatures imposing same-sex marriage by legislative fiat. //

Legislators would never drive a FIAT.

215 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:51:20pm

Fischer's idea of bears is no doubt derived from scripture, especially 2 Kings 2:23-24, where Elisha calls up a couple of she-bears to devour 40 children who had made fun of his bald head.

23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. (KJV)

216 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:51:44pm

re: #201 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

A bear must have fucked his sister in high school or something.

Wrong. It was his mother.

217 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:51:59pm

re: #208 goddamnedfrank

Stop the Ursafication of America!

THEY CAME FROM

URSA MAJOR

THEY DINE


ON HUMAN FLESH!

218 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:52:21pm

re: #206 Bulworth

And now we've got legislatures imposing same-sex marriage by legislative fiat. //

I suspect a Fiat designed by legislative committee would be even worse than the real one.

219 theheat  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:52:22pm

re: #216 Iwouldprefernotto

You're thinking of wolves and Little Red Riding Hood.
//

220 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:52:29pm

Says right there in the "hiking manual". If you don't follow the directions while hiking in bear country and you get eatted then you didn't take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!! -- Republican Guy #24

//

221 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:52:44pm

re: #216 Iwouldprefernotto

Wrong. It was his mother.

Same thing.

222 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:53:26pm

re: #221 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Same thing.

re: #221 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Same thing.

Not if his father is "the bear."

223 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:53:45pm

Nope. Imaginary guy in the sky didn't make up any rules about grizzly bears. And nope. Imaginary guy in the sky won't get rid of grizzly bears nor will same said imaginary guy be sending imaginary messages to guys walking on Earth to kill the grizzlies.

//

224 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:53:47pm

re: #217 WindUpBird

THEY CAME FROM

URSA MAJOR

THEY DINE

ON HUMAN FLESH!

Tastes like chicken, to a bear.

225 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:53:49pm

re: #210 WindUpBird

yes, this is now a thing I am bookmarking to show my stoned friends

There's an Eng. version. And live one.

226 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:54:10pm

I'm pretty sure this business of protecting bears is strongly related to anti-American anti-Christian leftists who hate America and love radical Islam. //

227 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:54:33pm

re: #213 Alouette

Won't click on it. Have you seen the sexi Babushka?

Yes. You made me see it. I hate you. /

228 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:55:01pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bryan Fischer proves once again that his brain and mouth have no actual connection; declares we should launch genocidal war against...bears.

Bryan Fischer: Shoot these man-eaters on sight

Weird.
God created animals too, and an entire system of checks and balances in nature to make sure we had what we need to survive, and we are obligated, IMO, to tend to this world that God created as best we can.

I wonder why this guy Fischer hasn't thought of that?

229 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:55:11pm

You know what other country famously protects bears and other killer animals? That country of Islam, that's who.

230 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:55:23pm

bear repellent...don't leave home without it
[Link: www.littlegun.info...]

231 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:55:29pm

Obviously, if you aren't on board with killing all bears, it means you want bears to eat every human being alive today.

232 leftynyc  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:56:06pm

re: #74 Alouette

It's in the TALMUD! Haven't you ever read the TALMUD!! I mean, who hasn't sat down and read the Talmud over the weekend, like the latest bestseller?

//It only took Zedushka 20 years to complete his first cycle of Shas

My did is still making his way through the Babylonian Talmud - he's had it for around 25 years.

233 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:56:41pm

re: #231 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously, if you aren't on board with killing all bears, it means you want bears to eat every human being alive today.

I, for one, welcome our new in the woods shitting overlords.

234 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:56:45pm

re: #231 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously, if you aren't on board with killing all bears, it means you want bears to eat every human being alive today.

There are a few human beings I wouldn't mind seeing served up to them, with fava beans and a good chianti of course.

235 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:56:53pm

re: #226 Bulworth

I'm pretty sure this business of protecting bears is strongly related to anti-American anti-Christian leftists who hate America and love radical Islam. //

For the truth of it, there is a right-ish animal/ecosystem conservation movement within the gun-rights crowd.

236 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:57:04pm

re: #228 reine.de.tout

I wonder why this guy Fischer hasn't thought of that?

Because he's not very smart, has a very limited pool of knowledge he chooses to draw upon, and has serious anger management issues.

237 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:57:15pm

re: #207 Sergey Romanov

Best Music Video EVER! Suck it MTV and your damn reality tv!

238 iossarian  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:57:48pm

re: #231 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously, if you aren't on board with killing all bears, it means you want bears to eat every human being alive today.

People who appease bears think that they will be allowed to coexist in enclaves when the bears have taken over. BUT NO they will be eated along with everyone else.

I would love to see the following three people thrown into pits to be eated by bears:

- The Archbishop of York (not Canterbury, he's not available)
- Richard Nixon (I know, he's dead, this is hypothetical)
- THE LEFTIST FATHER CHRISTMAS

signed A. Nutter.

239 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:58:00pm

re: #231 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obviously, if you aren't on board with killing all bears, it means you want bears to eat every human being alive today.

humans make third rate bear food....not nearly enough fat and protein for any regular diet....maybe a snack tho

240 Gus  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:58:13pm

re: #226 Bulworth

I'm pretty sure this business of protecting bears is strongly related to anti-American anti-Christian leftists who hate America and love radical Islam. //

...

Grizzlies of course are alive because of Communistic Watermelon* Envirofascists© who helped save the grizzlies who in turn kill the good Christian people who go hiking from time to time in red state bear country. That's why these Communistic Watermelon Envirofascists© saved the grizzlies. So that the grizzlies can eat Republicans on a day hike thus increasing the likelihood of red states turning into blue states.

*Green on the outside and red on the inside.

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:58:15pm

re: #237 Idle Drifter

Best Music Video EVER! Suck it MTV and your damn reality tv!

With furries and giant cucumbers you really can't fail.

242 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:58:24pm

re: #154 WindUpBird

that's hilarious

what's next, a holy war on high prices

Jesus saves...and you should too, at the Bible Factory Outlet!

///

243 Kragarghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:58:34pm

re: #235 Decatur Deb

For the truth of it, there is a right-ish animal/ecosystem conservation movement within the gun-rights crowd.

What do we kill once we've killed everything?

244 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:58:58pm

An appeaser is someone who feeds the bear hoping that it will eat him last.

245 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:59:31pm

re: #215 Shiplord Kirel

Fischer's idea of bears is no doubt derived from scripture, especially 2 Kings 2:23-24, where Elisha calls up a couple of she-bears to devour 40 children who had made fun of his bald head.

The rabbis puzzle greatly over that episode. What part of this is supposed to be miraculous?

It's the origin of the Hebrew phrase 'lo dubim v'lo yaar', "no bears and no forest", meaning 'nothing of the sort', or 'it didn't happen'.

246 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 12:59:44pm

re: #243 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What do we kill once we've killed everything?

have a cold beer and a cigar

247 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:01:25pm

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel

An appeaser is someone who feeds the bear hoping that it will eat him last.

An appetizer is someone who feeds the bear by hand.

248 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:02:28pm

re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist

The rabbis puzzle greatly over that episode. What part of this is supposed to be miraculous?

It's the origin of the Hebrew phrase 'lo dubim v'lo yaar', "no bears and no forest", meaning 'nothing of the sort', or 'it didn't happen'.

Pretty much the ancient version of "pics or it didn't happen!", right?

249 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:07:18pm

re: #247 Decatur Deb

An appetizer is someone who feeds the bear by hand.

my dad took movies back in the early 60's of that very thing both in Yellowstone and in the Smokies, parents and children both....even after decades of preaching against it by the Park Service

250 Neutral President  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:08:31pm

That's just great... Bears...

251 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:10:17pm

re: #249 albusteve

my dad took movies back in the early 60's of that very thing both in Yellowstone and in the Smokies, parents and children both...even after decades of preaching against it by the Park Service

There is a story, possibly even true, of an idiot who smeared honey on his kid's face to get a better photo.

252 SteelGHAZI  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:10:38pm

What's that smell? Oh I do believe it's Spencer's and Robertson's pants being on fire. Must be uncomfortable.

253 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:10:55pm

BTW, I'm all for shooting some Bears /

Except Sweetness. He gets a pass.

254 makeitstopghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:11:23pm

re: #225 Sergey Romanov

There's an Eng. version. And live one.

That guy's guitar is exactly the one I've been looking for.

255 albusteve  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:13:32pm

re: #251 Decatur Deb

There is a story, possibly even true, of an idiot who smeared honey on his kid's face to get a better photo.

I have plenty of bear stories from my boyhood travels, and yeah we all heard that one..it's probably more dangerous to stop feeding them...they are extremely determines when it comes to food

256 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:26:42pm

re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist

The rabbis puzzle greatly over that episode. What part of this is supposed to be miraculous?

It's the origin of the Hebrew phrase 'lo dubim v'lo yaar', "no bears and no forest", meaning 'nothing of the sort', or 'it didn't happen'.

Maybe the miracle was that the she-bears weren't full after five kids apiece?

257 Achilles Tang  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:38:30pm

re: #255 albusteve

I have plenty of bear stories from my boyhood travels, and yeah we all heard that one..it's probably more dangerous to stop feeding them...they are extremely determines when it comes to food

But not stupid. I have an automatic fish feeder on a dock over a pond. I put chicken wire around the post and connected it to an electric fencer. Knocked the bear in the water twice, but while it has been around as recently as 4 days ago, it doesn't go near the fish feeder anymore.

258 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:40:54pm

re: #257 Naso Tang

Smokey's at the door. Wants to talk to you.

259 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 1:51:58pm

re: #48 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bachmann's foreign policy adviser: Frank Gaffney

See, and here I had read (them saying here self admittedly) that that is the christian coalition plan.

260 Achilles Tang  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 2:06:36pm

re: #258 Decatur Deb

Smokey's at the door. Wants to talk to you.

Tell him I'm in the Smokies somewhere.

261 HappyBenghazi  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 5:10:56pm

Pat Robertson, yet another sleazy bigot using religion as a crutch. Shouldn't shock anyone that his father was an arch segregationist senator here in Virginia.

262 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Wed, Aug 3, 2011 8:54:45pm

Elisha uses bears to kill people who mocked his bald spot.

Bryan Fischer wants to kill all the bears.

Therefore,

Bryan Fischer is planning some unspeakable crime against bald people.


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