And Now for Some Cat Pictures (or, Advanced Scientific Cats)

The first generation ever born in captivity via artificial insemination
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It’s been a little while since we last visited the Internet Center for Advanced Studies of Baby Animal Cuteness, Zooborns, so I think it’s time for a couple of photos of the first-ever rare Pallas’s Cats born via artificial insemination, at the Cincinnati Zoo & Botanical Garden: First Ever Birth of Pallas’ Kittens with the Help of Advanced Science.

(Click the pictures to embiggen to maximum cuteness.)

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602 comments
1 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:48:46pm

Sheesh. Does it have to get that difficult? Pallas could just go down to the local Humane Society, if he wanted cats that bad.

(Yes, I know, you don't need to explain it to me.)

2 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:50:15pm
the first-ever Pallas’ Cats born via artificial insemination


Godless abominations! Burn them with fire!

3 webevintage  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:51:24pm

KITTIES!!!!!

4 elizajane  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:51:36pm

Oh help -- Michele Bachmann may have ruined forever my ability to respond warmly to images of big, staring eyes.

5 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:51:58pm

Their round pupils make them look like humans in a cat suit.

6 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:52:56pm

The left picture: "OH HAI!"

7 webevintage  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:53:17pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

Their round pupils make them look like humans in a cat suit.

Those big eyes are to lull you into reaching out to pet them so they can then eat your fingers.

8 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:53:43pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The left picture: "OH HAI!"

Oh hai, Iz in ur monitor, leaking cuteness all over ur keyboard.

9 What, me worry?  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:54:14pm

re: #1 EmmmieG

Sheesh. Does it have to get that difficult? Pallas could just go down to the local Humane Society, if he wanted cats that bad.

(Yes, I know, you don't need to explain it to me.)

Just what I was thinking! But Pallas's are wild cats in Central Asia and are endangered.

10 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:54:48pm

Cat thread! i better report this to my Cat Overlord right away.

11 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:54:53pm

re: #9 marjoriemoon

Just what I was thinking! But Pallas's are wild cats in Central Asia and are endangered.

Yeah, the word zoo tipped me off.

12 What, me worry?  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:56:00pm

re: #11 EmmmieG

Yeah, the word zoo tipped me off.

lol Well the article says the same thing :p But it was seriously my first reaction.

13 webevintage  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:56:32pm

re: #10 Rightwingconspirator

Cat thread! i better report this to my Cat Overlord right away.

hahahahaha
There is pretty much nothing funnier then a shaved cat.

14 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:57:00pm

re: #13 webevintage

hahahahaha
There is pretty much nothing funnier then a shaved cat.

I would stop laughing at the shaved cat. The overlords are taking notes.

15 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:57:34pm

re: #7 webevintage

Those big eyes are to lull you into reaching out to pet them so they can then eat your fingers.

Speaking of which, time to go home and feed my felines.

They're much bigger now.

16 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:57:50pm

So who had the unfortunate task of jacking off the male cat so they could do this?

17 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:57:58pm

re: #13 webevintage

hahahahaha
There is pretty much nothing funnier then a shaved cat.

Image: sphynx-cat.jpg

18 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 5:59:07pm

re: #16 Conservative Moonbat

So who had the unfortunate task of jacking off the male cat so they could do this?

Is this better or worse than the vet who gets to give the elephant its suppositories? (Yes, this is a real job.)

19 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:00:17pm

re: #18 EmmmieG

Is this better or worse than the vet who gets to give the elephant its suppositories? (Yes, this is a real job.)

Sounds dangerous.

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:01:36pm

re: #19 Conservative Moonbat

Sounds dangerous.

Involves a very long glove.

21 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:02:36pm

re: #17 Obdicut

Thanks for chiming in last thread on my tech q.

22 albusteve  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:03:02pm

if it's feline, hates people, and kills anything it can....I want two

23 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:03:31pm

re: #21 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks for chiming in last thread on my tech q.

You could also do this:

Youtube Video
24 albusteve  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:03:40pm

re: #16 Conservative Moonbat

So who had the unfortunate task of jacking off the male cat so they could do this?

go back to your closet

25 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:03:48pm

re: #15 wrenchwench

Speaking of which, time to go home and feed my felines.

They're much bigger now.

Looking really healthy there.

26 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:03:53pm

re: #4 elizajane

Oh help -- Michele Bachmann may have ruined forever my ability to respond warmly to images of big, staring eyes.

Now why would you say that?
Image: PallasCon.jpg

27 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:04:18pm

:3

28 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:05:23pm

re: #22 albusteve

if it's feline, hates people, and kills anything it can...I want two

Do the Puma Sisters from Tank Police count?

29 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:05:28pm

re: #26 jaunte

Now why would you say that?
Image: PallasCon.jpg

Gah!

30 prairiefire  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:06:05pm

re: #26 jaunte

Now why would you say that?
Image: PallasCon.jpg

That needs to be on a T shirt.

31 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:06:15pm

I've been out for a few days. I see Pam has lost the war of Amazon tags on her new book....
Stop the Islamization of America

hate speech(379)
islamophobia(318)
bigotry(316)
inspiration for the norway killer(291)

hateful divisive political rhetoric(290)
religious hatred(263)
racist(239)
anders breivik fan(194)

hate(194)
bigot(192)
32 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:06:23pm

re: #26 jaunte

3:

33 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:09:11pm

re: #26 jaunte

Now why would you say that?
Image: PallasCon.jpg

ALL GLORY TO THE PALLASMANN!

34 albusteve  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:09:51pm

re: #28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do the Puma Sisters from Tank Police count?

Tank Top Police?
hmmm...

35 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:10:45pm

Made it through Monday. Hooray.

What's up ?

36 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:10:49pm

re: #34 albusteve

Tank Top Police?
hmmm...

Image: Puma_Twins.jpg

37 Areopagitica  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:11:20pm

Awwww, they look so adorable. I want one:)

38 BishopX  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:11:28pm

re: #26 jaunte

Oh God! you need a warning on that thing!

39 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:12:32pm

re: #26 jaunte

Now why would you say that?
Image: PallasCon.jpg

I really, really hate you.

I had to dig my eyes out with a pickle fork.

40 albusteve  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:13:33pm

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: Puma_Twins.jpg

yikes!
reminds me of wife #2

41 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:13:52pm

re: #39 b_sharp

Maybe I should do a wildlife series.

42 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:14:36pm

re: #41 jaunte

Maybe I should do a wildlife series.

Sorry, but for some reason I couldn't read your comment.

43 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:20:13pm

And the cuteness, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the baby Cats of Pallas on a website called "Zooborns";
And their eyes have all the seeming of a demon that is dreaming,
And there's catnip-addled scheming as they frolic near the door;
And the cat hair in that pile that now lies floating on the floor
Shall be vacuumed — evermore!

44 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:22:37pm

Sorry about the frightening mutant picture. By way of apology, here are some more Pallas cats (including video)...
[Link: jessicamadison.wordpress.com...]

45 jamesfirecat  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:23:22pm

Artifical Insemination? Don't those scientists realize that this is only going to fan the flames of lesbian felines out their trolling for pussy?

46 albusteve  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:29:50pm

re: #45 jamesfirecat

Artifical Insemination? Don't those scientists realize that this is only going to fan the flames of lesbian felines out their trolling for pussy?

this sort of mindless shit is exactly why my son won't visit this site anymore

47 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:31:58pm

re: #46 albusteve

this sort of mindless shit is exactly why my son won't visit this site anymore

He needs to expand his sense of humour.

48 albusteve  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:33:32pm

re: #47 b_sharp

He needs to expand his sense of humour.

ya think?...where's the humour?
let's raunch...I can do that shit as good as anybody

49 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:33:39pm

re: #46 albusteve

this sort of mindless shit is exactly why my son won't visit this site anymore

That's nice.

Any other complaints about the site?

50 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:36:33pm

Because of Charles, I get Zooborns in my email everyday.

Today it was Guinea Fowl and Puffins. Not nearly as cute at kittens.

How is everyone?

51 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:36:42pm

Awww, babies.

52 Obdicut  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:37:12pm

re: #50 ggt

How is this not as cute?

Image: baby-puffin.jpg

It's a puffball.

53 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:38:05pm

Massively off topic, but Qaddafi's men in Sirte launched a Scud towards the rebels in the east (Adjabiya).

He's getting desperate if he is using Ballistic Missiles.

US Intel confirmed this rumor in the past 1-2 hours.

54 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:38:07pm

re: #48 albusteve

ya think?...where's the humour?
let's raunch...I can do that shit as good as anybody

Steve, I can find just about anything funny, unless it targets somebody specifically. This bit did no harm to anyone and showed a fair bit of imagination. If your son doesn't like some forms of humour, that's his choice, but frankly it's neither here nor there as far as this site is concerned.

55 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:38:12pm

re: #52 Obdicut

How is this not as cute?

Image: baby-puffin.jpg

It's a puffball.

eh, IDK Obdi, I just don't do birds.

56 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:38:26pm

re: #50 ggt

Because of Charles, I get Zooborns in my email everyday.

Today it was Guinea Fowl and Puffins. Not nearly as cute at kittens.

How is everyone?

Hi you! How are you?

57 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:39:00pm

re: #52 Obdicut

How is this not as cute?

Image: baby-puffin.jpg

It's a puffball.

Boil the water and fire up the barbee.

58 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:39:45pm

Is it time for some Lee Greenwood or something?

59 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:40:16pm

re: #35 Stanley Sea

Made it through Monday. Hooray.

What's up ?

Good RnR convo downstairs.

60 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:40:22pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

Now that's really scary.

61 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:40:53pm

re: #23 Obdicut

You could also do this:
[Video]


That's pretty interesting. Leo Laport had this show on the old Tech TV channel. They put the computer in a tank with some high tech fluid. I'd rather use a non conducting fluid but water is what is on the market as far as extra cooling goes. BTW it happens fast I restarted Adobe Media Encoder, all 4 cores went to 199% and the computer shut down into hibernation in less than ten minutes. 202F.

62 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:42:57pm

re: #56 HoosierHoops

Hi you! How are you?

hangin' in there, ya' know.

Thanks for askin'!

63 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:43:34pm

re: #53 ProLifeLiberal

It did miss, and landed in open desert. I should have mentioned that.

Rebels did well today. Got Tiji and Mizdah, and are wrapping up Sabratha and Al-Ajaylat.

Also, defections are springing up. Interior Minister, among others.

Unfortunately, police in Cairo broke up a Pro-Rebel Protest in front of the Libyan Embassy there.

64 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:44:39pm

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator

That's pretty interesting. Leo Laport had this show on the old Tech TV channel. They put the computer in a tank with some high tech fluid. I'd rather use a non conducting fluid but water is what is on the market as far as extra cooling goes. BTW it happens fast I restarted Adobe Media Encoder, all 4 cores went to 199% and the computer shut down into hibernation in less than ten minutes. 202F.

Holy crap. There are OC tests that can't do that. Are you sure your MoBo isn't auto-over clocking?

65 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:44:43pm

German Boy calls Police, says he is being abused thru Forced Labour.

66 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:46:25pm

How does this happen? Monks on Fire.

Personally, I think it is the strangest form of protest.

67 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:47:01pm

re: #66 ggt

If you have nothing to lose, you do strange things.

68 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:47:26pm

Koch Brothers seek to reintroduce school segregation

69 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:48:14pm

DON'T CLIMB THE PILLAR!

OMG, Tragic really.

70 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:48:30pm

re: #60 jaunte

Now that's really scary.

More offensive and the old time recourse for the shocking, SHOCKING posts on LGF.

71 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:48:55pm

re: #65 ggt

German Boy calls Police, says he is being abused thru Forced Labour.

My son calls being forced to pick up his room, possibly do dishes, and do a little homework before being allowed to play video games "blackmail."

I keep explaining to him that this is coercion, not blackmail, but he won't listen to me.

Must be tough to be an 11 year old kid in our ridiculously wealthy Western society.

72 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:49:18pm

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Koch Brothers seek to reintroduce school segregation

And this isn't racism because . . . .

remind again how that works.

73 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:49:42pm

re: #72 ggt

And this isn't racism because . . .

remind again how that works.

They're doing it for the children!
/

74 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:50:21pm

re: #71 EmmmieG

My son calls being forced to pick up his room, possibly do dishes, and do a little homework before being allowed to play video games "blackmail."

I keep explaining to him that this is coercion, not blackmail, but he won't listen to me.

Must be tough to be an 11 year old kid in our ridiculously wealthy Western society.

at 11, I told my kid that if he did the chores, I'd let him live another day.

He rolled his eyes and did the chores . . .

75 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:51:15pm

re: #73 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They're doing it for the children!
/

ah!

76 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:52:09pm

re: #10 Rightwingconspirator

Cat thread! i better report this to my Cat Overlord right away.

Oh, man.
Image: 129092889220071791.jpg

77 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:52:33pm

re: #72 ggt

And this isn't racism because . . .

remind again how that works.

They aren't the racists, dontcha know.

All I can say is 2012 is going to be a heckava year. (Said in Perry/GWB cadence)

God (one who I follow on twitter) said yesterday that if Michele Bachman gets elected, he's going to move to Andromeda.

78 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:52:42pm

re: #46 albusteve

this sort of mindless shit is exactly why my son won't visit this site anymore

Great story. Compelling and rich.

79 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:52:52pm

re: #76 Varek Raith

Oh, man.
Image: 129092889220071791.jpg

Image: evil_kitty_by_makinurlifelivinhell-d41y0nk.jpg

80 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:53:19pm

SWome sadd news about Az-Zawiyah.

The city is now being shelled by positions in the West of Tripoli.

NATO did knock out some positions, but Az-Zawiya is going to get pretty shot up.

81 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:53:26pm

OMG, again.

Homosexuality in the Animal Kingdom.

Lord, it cannot be!

:0

82 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:53:43pm

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Image: evil_kitty_by_makinurlifelivinhell-d41y0nk.jpg

Image: i_hate_everything_cat.jpg

83 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:54:16pm

re: #80 ProLifeLiberal

Some sad news about Az-Zawiyah.

The city is now being shelled by positions in the West of Tripoli.

NATO did knock out some positions, but Az-Zawiya is going to get pretty shot up.

Keyboard issues

84 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:54:30pm

re: #81 ggt

I blame WUB.

q:

85 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:56:09pm

Perry Reveals Plan For Total U.S. Anarchy: ‘Put A Moratorium On All Regulations’
ANARCHY!

86 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:57:49pm

mycathatesyou.com

now in Braille.

feh

87 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:58:30pm

re: #82 Varek Raith

Image: i_hate_everything_cat.jpg

Image: Totally%20Evil%20Kitty.jpg_thumb.jpg

88 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:59:05pm

Rick Perry accuses Ben Bernanke of almost-treason:

"I dunno what y’all would do to him in Iowa but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in history is almost treasonous in my opinion."
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
89 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:59:29pm

re: #85 Varek Raith

Perry Reveals Plan For Total U.S. Anarchy: ‘Put A Moratorium On All Regulations’
ANARCHY!

Perry looks eerily like Josh Brolin as Bush in W.

90 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 6:59:40pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

They aren't the racists, dontcha know.

All I can say is 2012 is going to be a heckava year. (Said in Perry/GWB cadence)

God (one who I follow on twitter) said yesterday that if Michele Bachman gets elected, he's going to move to Andromeda.

Some rwnj just can't get over the idea of their womens getting taken by dark-skinned peoples.

Can't have them in the same school as our daughters . . . .

/gah

91 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:00:00pm

re: #85 Varek Raith

Perry Reveals Plan For Total U.S. Anarchy: ‘Put A Moratorium On All Regulations’
ANARCHY!

WTF?

92 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:02:15pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It's evil clown time.

93 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:02:26pm

re: #90 ggt

Some rwnj just can't get over the idea of their womens getting taken by dark-skinned peoples.

Can't have them in the same school as our daughters . . .

/gah

I've been to that school. Wasn't worth the trouble.

94 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:03:32pm

Warren Buffet Tells US Govt to stop coddling Billionaires..........

OUR leaders have asked for “shared sacrifice.” But when they did the asking, they spared me. I checked with my mega-rich friends to learn what pain they were expecting. They, too, were left untouched.

While the poor and middle class fight for us in Afghanistan, and while most Americans struggle to make ends meet, we mega-rich continue to get our extraordinary tax breaks. Some of us are investment managers who earn billions from our daily labors but are allowed to classify our income as “carried interest,” thereby getting a bargain 15 percent tax rate. Others own stock index futures for 10 minutes and have 60 percent of their gain taxed at 15 percent, as if they’d been long-term investors.

These and other blessings are showered upon us by legislators in Washington who feel compelled to protect us, much as if we were spotted owls or some other endangered species. It’s nice to have friends in high places.

Last year my federal tax bill — the income tax I paid, as well as payroll taxes paid by me and on my behalf — was $6,938,744. That sounds like a lot of money. But what I paid was only 17.4 percent of my taxable income — and that’s actually a lower percentage than was paid by any of the other 20 people in our office. Their tax burdens ranged from 33 percent to 41 percent and averaged 36 percent.


[Link: crooksandliars.com...]

95 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:04:01pm

re: #92 jaunte

It's evil clown time.

Challenge accepted.

96 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:04:30pm

re: #91 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

WTF?

There are no words.

97 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:04:38pm

re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Challenge accepted.

He's an Aggie of course.

98 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:04:38pm

re: #64 b_sharp

I'm not at all sure about overclocking, it's a stock machine. What is MoBo?

99 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:05:37pm

re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Challenge accepted.

with his finger on the trigger,

I'm assuming he didn't discharge the firearm in the air in a public place . . . .

I'm hoping he didn't discarge the firearm in the air in a public place . . .

100 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:06:15pm

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator

[Link: www.tomshardware.com...]

101 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:06:25pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

He's an Aggie of course.

A wretched hive of scum and villainy...

102 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:07:01pm

re: #101 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

..except for the Ag science people...

103 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:07:08pm

re: #93 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I've been to that school. Wasn't worth the trouble.

Wasn't that the big SoCon scare tactic used against integration of schools?

Idiots.

104 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:07:16pm

re: #99 ggt

with his finger on the trigger,

I'm assuming he didn't discharge the firearm in the air in a public place . . .

I'm hoping he didn't discarge the firearm in the air in a public place . . .

I hate to think what would happen if the range masters at my husband's range got a hold of him.

105 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:07:31pm

re: #64 b_sharp

Holy crap. There are OC tests that can't do that. Are you sure your MoBo isn't auto-over clocking?

I mistyped the cores go to 100% not 199. Duh. But yeah this is kinda nuts. Tonight I'll check the heat sink, firs6t to make sure it's well attached and second to scope out the water cooling install.

106 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:07:59pm

re: #99 ggt

with his finger on the trigger,

I'm assuming he didn't discharge the firearm in the air in a public place . . .

I'm hoping he didn't discarge the firearm in the air in a public place . . .

It looks kinda like a puff of smoke there. I bet he did.

107 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:11:11pm

re: #86 ggt

mycathatesyou.com

now in Braille.

feh

My cat once went off on PETA. Pretty ugly scene.

108 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:11:57pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

It looks kinda like a puff of smoke there. I bet he did.

This seems to be the article that goes with the picture.

109 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:12:06pm

re: #98 Rightwingconspirator

I'm not at all sure about overclocking, it's a stock machine. What is MoBo?

Many new motherboards have the ability to overclock the cpu and ram, as well as boost current. Some, such as a few Asus boards will boost the cpu to higher clock speeds than the cpu is rated for at boot up. Boards with the Intel chipset are designed to boost the cpu over short bursts, but some boards take this too far and boost long enough for the cpu or ram to overheat.

Check in the BIOS to see if overclocking is enabled.

110 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:12:15pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

It was apparently loaded with blanks.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

111 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:13:00pm

re: #110 jaunte

It was apparently loaded with blanks.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Strange things are done in Texas and in Politics.

112 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:13:14pm

BBL BBQ time for the steaks.

113 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:13:46pm

re: #109 b_sharp

Will do thanks very much.

114 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:14:38pm

re: #110 jaunte

It was apparently loaded with blanks.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

Too bad his dad couldn't make the same claim.
/rimshot

115 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:14:45pm

re: #108 ggt

This seems to be the article that goes with the picture.

Aw blanks. Excuse me Steve, but that's kinda pussy for a Texan eh?

116 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:14:51pm

obama confronted on his 'listening tour' with inconvenient facts

Youtube Video

Heavily edited video from Fox News
/Not even worth fact checking
117 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:14:59pm

re: #111 ggt

Strange things like saying this about the Fed chairman. It conjures up all kinds of nasty possibilities, and you know that what the effect he was going for.

"I dunno what y’all would do to him in Iowa but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. "
118 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:15:06pm

re: #113 Rightwingconspirator

Will do thanks very much.

Tell me what motherboard you have and I'll look it up.

119 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:15:30pm

'was' the effect...

120 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:15:46pm

re: #103 ggt

Wasn't that the big SoCon scare tactic used against integration of schools?

Idiots.

One of many, yes.

121 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:16:51pm

ooooh, IT'S THE KRACKEN.

Run for your lives!!!!!!!!!!

122 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:20:19pm

Kid and I went to a Borders today. We had some time to waste. Literally. You can still be better deals with Amazon.com regular pricing.

Then we went to a very cool used book store. Not a waste of time.

123 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:20:52pm

Some one needs to walk behind me and say "you already have a storage unit full of books --many you haven't read yet . . ."

124 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:23:03pm

re: #123 ggt

Some one needs to walk behind me and say "you already have a storage unit full of books --many you haven't read yet . . ."

It costs me $60 just to walk into a science educational store. Bookstores only cost me $30, so it's kind of a bargain.

125 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:23:07pm

obama confronted by tea party 'terrorists'

Youtube Video

"900% of the terrorists are left wing radicals"
/Heh
126 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:23:42pm

I truly have no words.

Marketing . . . .

127 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:24:30pm

re: #121 ggt

oooh, IT'S THE KRACKEN.

Run for your lives!!!

Beach bar around here named the Kraken. Pretty popular spot.

"This is a true dive, but it's friendly and non threatening.

LOL

Across the street from the ocean. Live bands.

128 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:25:02pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

obama confronted by tea party 'terrorists'

[Video]
"900% of the terrorists are left wing radicals"
/Heh

"Would it make you feel better if we said assholes instead?"

129 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:25:46pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

obama confronted by tea party 'terrorists'

[Video]
"900% of the terrorists are left wing radicals"
/Heh

OH MY GOD.

130 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:26:50pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

I don't think they left the event feeling less victimized.

131 Gus  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:27:05pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

obama confronted by tea party 'terrorists'

[Video]
"900% of the terrorists are left wing radicals"
/Heh

That's hilarious. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are by definition, conservatives. Not American styled but conservative nonetheless. Particularly on the social front.

132 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:27:11pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Unhooded vigilantes.

133 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:27:51pm

So frustrating to have to leave intelligence at the door and deal with this PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT.

I already feel for my own head, heart and soul this next election.

134 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:28:26pm

re: #118 b_sharp

Tell me what motherboard you have and I'll look it up.

BRB dinner... But I bet it does...

135 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:29:38pm

Oh hell. That clip Killgore, was something.

136 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:29:54pm

re: #133 Stanley Sea

So frustrating to have to leave intelligence at the door and deal with this PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT.

I already feel for my own head, heart and soul this next election.

I, for one, simply cannot *wait* to see the R platform next year. Can you imagine?

137 Velvet Elvis  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:30:16pm

Rick Perry Shows his true colors.

138 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:30:53pm

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Perry's Remarks on Bernanke are criminal. This Texan thug is making murder threats on the Fed Chairman [Link: thinkprogress.org...]
139 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:31:24pm

re: #137 Conservative Moonbat

Rick Perry Shows his true colors.

Achtug, y'all!

140 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:31:50pm

re: #139 austin_blue

Achtung, y'all!

Sheesh.

141 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:31:59pm

OK, Charles, the control Y tweet function is like chocolate milk. Gracias.

142 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:33:09pm

wozzworld update -

- mom has entered week 4 in hospital.
She is now recovering from massive infection along with the major surgery from the other week. Last chance antibiotics being administered or else doc's may have to perform another major surgery just to get rid of the infection.

total cost still $0


G'night folks -

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:33:55pm

Pallas Cats! A friend of mine is all about the pallas cats

also, a friend of mine was trapped in the Anon BART protest: [Link: www.geekosystem.com...] apparently people who use the BART's website are now The Enemy, not sure what the fuck is going on there

144 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:35:24pm

re: #142 wozzablog

wozzworld update -

- mom has entered week 4 in hospital.
She is now recovering from massive infection along with the major surgery from the other week. Last chance antibiotics being administered or else doc's may have to perform another major surgery just to get rid of the infection.

total cost still $0

G'night folks -

Best to her and you, wozza.

145 Wozza Matter?  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:35:58pm

re: #144 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Thanks.

146 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:36:58pm

re: #131 Gus 802

That's hilarious. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are by definition, conservatives. Not American styled but conservative nonetheless. Particularly on the social front.

Progressive totalitarians!

147 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:38:06pm

Here is believed extinct, Sand Kitteh Cuteness

Renana, a 3-week-old sand kitten, is seen at her enclosure in the Ramat Gan Safari near Tel Aviv August 8, 2011. The kitten is the first of the sand cat species, considered extinct in Israel, to be born at the safari park, an open-air zoo, a statement from the safari said.

148 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:38:12pm

re: #136 austin_blue

I, for one, simply cannot *wait* to see the R platform next year. Can you imagine?

Yeah. Not too different from the last states rights socon party to make any real waves.

149 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:38:30pm

re: #135 Stanley Sea

Oh hell. That clip Killgore, was something.

oh yeah, watch this one.

150 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:40:00pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

Progressive totalitarians!

The Tea Party are devout Ochlocracists.

151 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:41:56pm

re: #150 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Tea Party are devout Ochlocracists.

ok, I can't keep this stuff straight.

What is the difference between a Ochlocrast and an Anarchist?

152 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:43:55pm

re: #151 ggt

ok, I can't keep this stuff straight.

What is the difference between a Ochlocrast and an Anarchist?

and how many of each does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

153 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:44:19pm

re: #149 ggt

oh yeah, watch this one.

Grady Warren is still my favorite of all

Youtube Video

He speaks for a lot more than the stupid tea party, that's for sure.

154 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:44:56pm

re: #151 ggt

ok, I can't keep this stuff straight.

What is the difference between a Ochlocrast and an Anarchist?

Ochlocracy - government by mob or a mass of people, or the intimidation of legitimate authorities.

155 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:44:59pm

re: #147 Alouette

Here is believed extinct, Sand Kitteh Cuteness

Renana, a 3-week-old sand kitten, is seen at her enclosure in the Ramat Gan Safari near Tel Aviv August 8, 2011. The kitten is the first of the sand cat species, considered extinct in Israel, to be born at the safari park, an open-air zoo, a statement from the safari said.

ooooooh, look at the beebee!

156 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:45:06pm

re: #131 Gus 802

That's hilarious. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are by definition, conservatives. Not American styled but conservative nonetheless. Particularly on the social front.

It's the whole "No conservatives are capable of evil, only liberals" mantra. Otherwise known as No True Scotsman.

157 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:46:17pm

re: #148 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah. Not too different from the last states rights socon party to make any real waves.

Yeah, like that. Sixty three years ago, a group of citizens demanded that another group of citizens be permanently barred from equal protection under the law per the Constitution. Because they were patriots.

They're baaa-ack.

158 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:48:11pm

re: #157 austin_blue

Yeah, like that. Sixty three years ago, a group of citizens demanded that another group of citizens be permanently barred from equal protection under the law per the Constitution. Because they were patriots.

They're baaa-ack.

Eh, these people are just reliving their anti-busing protest years.

159 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:50:35pm

re: #147 Alouette

X3

160 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:50:44pm

re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ochlocracy - government by mob or a mass of people, or the intimidation of legitimate authorities.

Rule by pitchfork.

161 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:51:09pm

re: #153 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Grady Warren is still my favorite of all

[Video]He speaks for a lot more than the stupid tea party, that's for sure.

"They"

"

They

"

They

"

ack!

162 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:52:37pm

re: #151 ggt

ok, I can't keep this stuff straight.

What is the difference between a Ochlocrast and an Anarchist?

About a buck and a half.

163 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:53:16pm

re: #153 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Grady Warren is still my favorite of all

[Video]He speaks for a lot more than the stupid tea party, that's for sure.

"Is it racist that we love Sarah Palin, because she is a female version of Ronald Reagan and most men's Fantasy Wife"?


ahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

164 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:55:51pm

re: #153 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Grady Warren is still my favorite of all

[Video]He speaks for a lot more than the stupid tea party, that's for sure.

Well, I can't handle the US vs. THEM mentality in any ideology.

As far as I see it, we are all human beings.

They see it as an economic issue.

I see it as a human issue.

What was Amistad about--remember the movie? "It's a matter of Property"

165 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:56:40pm

Gonna go for a walk. BBL

166 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:57:11pm

So with Ochlocracy it would take a mob to screw in a lightbulb (if it's not broken in the melee)

With Anarchy, the lightbulb would never get screwed in.

167 Gus  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:57:48pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

It's the whole "No conservatives are capable of evil, only liberals" mantra. Otherwise known as No True Scotsman.

Yep. One would be hard pressed to find a pro-choice or pro-gay marriage Jihadist.

168 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:58:12pm

re: #166 ggt

So with Ochlocracy it would take a mob to screw in a lightbulb (if it's not broken in the melee)

With Anarchy, the lightbulb would never get screwed in.

In an Ochlocracy, those bastards better screw in that light bulb if they know whats good for them

169 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:58:37pm

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In an Ochlocracy, those bastards better screw in that light bulb if they know whats good for them

ah!

170 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:58:47pm

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In an Ochlocracy, those bastards better screw in that light bulb if they know whats good for them

Kinda like me and my kid.

171 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:58:51pm

re: #166 ggt

So with Ochlocracy it would take a mob to screw in a lightbulb (if it's not broken in the melee)

With Anarchy, the lightbulb would never get screwed in.

But you would be free to sit in the dark, if that's what you wish.

172 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:59:25pm

re: #164 ggt

Well, I can't handle the US vs. THEM mentality in any ideology.

As far as I see it, we are all human beings.

They see it as an economic issue.

I see it as a human issue.

What was Amistad about--remember the movie? "It's a matter of Property"

The other key phrase is: "Our Way of Life."

173 Gus  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 7:59:47pm

Funny...

@ConanOBrien Conan O'Brien
Rick Perry is a religious, right-wing conservative who’s a former pilot and the governor of Texas. Finally! One of those!

174 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:00:39pm

re: #166 ggt

In an Ochlocracy the mob would set the house on fire so they could see the light fixture clearly.

175 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:00:44pm

re: #172 EmmmieG

The other key phrase is: "Our Way of Life."

"Our" vs "Their"

What, exactly is "Their" way of life?

How is it different than hiring Rent Boys?

176 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:01:15pm

re: #45 jamesfirecat

Artifical Insemination? Don't those scientists realize that this is only going to fan the flames of lesbian felines out their trolling for pussy?

LOL

177 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:01:37pm

re: #167 Gus 802

Yep. One would be hard pressed to find a pro-choice or pro-gay marriage Jihadist.

Yep, I find it hilarious how Islamism has been equated with Socialism, Communism. Secularism, etc. Must be fun to live in a fantasy world.

178 b_Snark  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:01:41pm

re: #134 Rightwingconspirator

BRB dinner... But I bet it does...

If you can't find overclocking in the BIOS, download this program and run it. It will tell you the clock speed, FSB speed and multiplier as well as the CPU version. Then the numbers can be compared to find out if it's OCed.

I'm heading for the sack right away, but I should be able to help you out sometime tomorrow.

179 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:02:24pm
ok-lok-ruh-see

That is difficult to pronounce.

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:03:33pm

re: #173 Gus 802

Funny...

@ConanOBrien Conan O'Brien
Rick Perry is a religious, right-wing conservative who’s a former pilot and the governor of Texas. Finally! One of those!

Help me out here --before LBJ there was no POTUS from Texas --right?

Now, we've had?

181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:03:46pm

re: #164 ggt

Well, I can't handle the US vs. THEM mentality in any ideology.

As far as I see it, we are all human beings.

They see it as an economic issue.

I see it as a human issue.

What was Amistad about--remember the movie? "It's a matter of Property"

I didn't see a whole lot in that clip about economics. The speaker and angry/bitters in the target audience are just enraged because they cannot own US as the property. Oh well, sux to be them. /Schadenfreude

182 jamesfirecat  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:04:22pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

Perry looks eerily like Josh Brolin as Bush in W.

Jon Stewart just made the same comparison.

183 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:05:12pm

re: #182 jamesfirecat

Jon Stewart just made the same comparison.

It's a good point thinking about it. Wonder who plays Perry on SNL.

184 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:05:33pm

re: #89 goddamnedfrank

Perry looks eerily like Josh Brolin as Bush in W.

He looks like his face is made of dried out Playdough.

185 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:05:41pm

re: #123 ggt

Some one needs to walk behind me and say "you already have a storage unit full of books --many you haven't read yet . . ."

It's called A Gentle Madness.

186 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:05:45pm

Starbucks CEO Calls for End to Campaign Giving

Starbucks Corp. (SBUX) Chief Executive Officer Howard Schultz urged other CEOs to boycott donating to U.S. political campaigns to encourage leaders to solve the nation’s growing budget deficit.

“I am asking that all of us forego political contributions until the Congress and the President return to Washington and deliver a fiscally disciplined long-term debt and deficit plan to the American people,” Schultz wrote in an e-mail sent to business leaders that was obtained by Bloomberg News.

187 Gus  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:05:59pm

re: #180 ggt

Help me out here --before LBJ there was no POTUS from Texas --right?

Now, we've had?

Eisenhower...Born in Denison, Texas. Raised in Kansas though.

188 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:06:36pm

re: #181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I didn't see a whole lot in that clip about economics. The speaker and angry/bitters in the target audience are just enraged because they cannot own US as the property. Oh well, sux to be them. /Schadenfreude

It's about jobs and opportunity to make money. Like the Irish didn't like the Blacks because they were just one rung higher on the social scale and blacks would take all their jobs. . . .

189 Daniel Ballard  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:07:38pm

re: #118 b_sharp

Tell me what motherboard you have and I'll look it up.

Okay back from dinner.
MB Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO

190 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:09:13pm

re: #188 ggt

It's about jobs and opportunity to make money. Like the Irish didn't like the Blacks because they were just one rung higher on the social scale and blacks would take all their jobs. . . .

There are two issues there, not just jobs/money. The US has always wedded class mobility to color/race/perceived race.

191 jaunte  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:09:32pm

Jon Stewart: "Ron Paul is Tea Party Patient Zero."

192 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:09:42pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Yep, I find it hilarious how Islamism has been equated with Socialism, Communism. Secularism, etc. Must be fun to live in a fantasy world.

The argument is that the two end up allied, and sometimes they do as witness "Queers for Palestine", who often protest beside Islamists who would murder the gay activists in a minute if they (the Islamists) ran the government.

That having been said, normal socialism is not like Islamism at all, nor secularism. Communism is like Islamism in the sense that they are both totalitarian philosophies.

193 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:10:42pm

Did Eisenhower identify as a Texan, Kansasan, or something else? I believe he was listed as from New York when he first ran for president since he had been president of Columbia university and I know also that he retired in Gettysburg.

194 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:11:32pm

hmmmmm

&

hmmmmmm

I notice both are out of print.

195 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:13:18pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

The argument is that the two end up allied, and sometimes they do as witness "Queers for Palestine", who often protest beside Islamists who would murder the gay activists in a minute if they (the Islamists) ran the government.

About like GOProud at CPAC.

Well, not anymore since they got their asses kicked out by the socon jihadis.

That having been said, normal socialism is not like Islamism at all, nor secularism. Communism is like Islamism in the sense that they are both totalitarian philosophies.

You can add Christian Reconstruction and AFA to that.

196 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:13:57pm

re: #184 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He looks like his face is made of dried out Playdough.

I want to take a marker and draw in the lines on his face like a little kid.

197 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:14:20pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Did Eisenhower identify as a Texan, Kansasan, or something else? I believe he was listed as from New York when he first ran for president since he had been president of Columbia university and I know also that he retired in Gettysburg.

Born in Denison, TX, left when he was two, and was raised in Abilene, KS.

198 Gus  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:14:20pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Did Eisenhower identify as a Texan, Kansasan, or something else? I believe he was listed as from New York when he first ran for president since he had been president of Columbia university and I know also that he retired in Gettysburg.

I would say a Kansan. He certainly acted like one.

199 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:14:36pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

The argument is that the two end up allied, and sometimes they do as witness "Queers for Palestine", who often protest beside Islamists who would murder the gay activists in a minute if they (the Islamists) ran the government.

That having been said, normal socialism is not like Islamism at all, nor secularism. Communism is like Islamism in the sense that they are both totalitarian philosophies.


Well shit, why not bring up the fact that white supremacist groups have offered the Taliban and AQ help. I am sorry DF but I have seen people on the right try to act like secularism/Islamism are similar ideologies. Silly since it comes from people who want religion and state more closer linked. And secularists as you know want religion and state as far apart as possible.

200 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:16:29pm

re: #198 Gus 802

I would say a Kansan. He certainly acted like one.

Hmmm makes sense, I know his folks were originally from Pennsylvania. Hard to really see him as a Southerner even though he did do better in the South than any Republican candidate to that point in teh 20th century though no doubt his war hero status helped and the fact he was a little less assertive on civil rights than Willkie and later Dewey.

201 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:16:56pm

Well, I think I should go read a book.

Well, I would like to go read a book. The 2nd in Colleen McCulloughs Rome series "The Grass Crown".

Have a great evening all!

202 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:17:25pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Well shit, why not bring up the fact that white supremacist groups have offered the Taliban and AQ help. I am sorry DF but I have seen people on the right try to act like secularism/Islamism are similar ideologies. Silly since it comes from people who want religion and state more closer linked. And secularists as you know want religion and state as far apart as possible.

Kinda like two people not liking each other because they are too much alike.

203 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:18:17pm

re: #195 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

About like GOProud at CPAC.

Well, not anymore since they got their asses kicked out by the socon jihadis.

You can add Christian Reconstruction and AFA to that.

I was only placing those ideologies that had been listed. It was just a response, not an expansion.

204 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:18:45pm

re: #202 moderatelyradicalliberal

Kinda like two people not liking each other because they are too much alike.

Yep, I do love hearing from Newt Gingrich that secularism is going to bring on Shariah la though. If Shariah were ever to come which it won't as it stands now, it would be due to idiots like Gingrich who think Separation of Church and State is bad.

205 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:20:19pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

I was only placing those ideologies that had been listed. It was just a response, not an expansion.

Mine was also a response.

206 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:23:53pm

re: #205 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Mine was also a response.

What state do you live in?

207 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:24:42pm

It takes a simple thinking brain to easily compare these religious Americans vs. any other foreign fundamentalist group they despise. Unfortunately, they have some pretty strong propaganda networks to reinforce their views as correct against their enemies exact same views.

208 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:26:05pm

re: #206 moderatelyradicalliberal

What state do you live in?

CA

209 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:31:18pm

re: #175 ggt

Actually, I was thinking about the Continental Congresses, when the Southern Colonies threatened to shut down the entire process over a clause about slavery.

They weren't pretending or using code words, though. Racism back then sat out in plain sight.

210 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:32:41pm

re: #209 EmmmieG

And I don't just randomly sit around and think about the CC's. I'm preparing an activity for some kids about the two CC's.

211 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:32:56pm

TEXAS: Last in education, last in healthcare coverage, but 1st in the most minimum-wage fast food jobs in the country. It's a money tsunami!

212 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:44:40pm

Obama:

"I think that we forget when [Martin Luther King Jr.] was alive there was nobody who was more vilified, nobody who was more controversial, nobody who was more despairing at times. There was a decade that followed the great successes of Birmingham and Selma in which he was just struggling, fighting the good fight, and scorned, and many folks angry. But what he understood, what kept him going, was that the arc of moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. But it doesn’t bend on its own. It bends because all of us are putting our hand on the arc and we are bending it in that direction. And it takes time. And it's hard work. And there are frustrations."

213 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:45:59pm

re: #209 EmmmieG

Actually, I was thinking about the Continental Congresses, when the Southern Colonies threatened to shut down the entire process over a clause about slavery.

They weren't pretending or using code words, though. Racism back then sat out in plain sight.

It wasn't racism, really. Racism assumes level of equality. Slaves were work animals, but different, in that they could do more than pull a wagon or a plow. But they weren't really *human*, which is why the 3/5th count was included when determining populations for Congressional Districts.

Slaves, more than anything else, were property, and quite valuable property. Poor white dirt farmers didn't have chattel slaves. Couldn't afford them. So Johnny Reb was convinced to go to war for States Rights when it was really to protect the property of the rich ruling class.

Why does this seem to have resonance today?

Hmmm...

Can't put my finger on it...

214 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:47:26pm

Fla. megachurch pastor found dead in NY hotel

The pastor of a Florida megachurch was found dead in a New York City hotel room on Friday.

A white powdery substance believed to be narcotics was discovered on the body, The Wall Street Journal reports.

New York City police said 42-year-old Zachery Tims of Orlando was found dead on the floor of a room at the W Hotel in Times Square late Friday afternoon. There was no criminal activity suspected. The medical examiner will determine the cause of death.

215 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:49:05pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

obama confronted by tea party 'terrorists'

[Video]
"900% of the terrorists are left wing radicals"
/Heh

Andrew Breivik's surviving victims and the families of those who didn't would beg to differ.

Seriously, what a bunch of willfully ignorant, whiny, real-life versions of LGF trolls, with a victimhood complex as large as their self-awareness is small.

Makes you wish there was a real-life version of the downding button! Like, a huge red minus sign you could slap on someone's forehead and make them wear for the rest of the day.

216 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:49:57pm

re: #214 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fla. megachurch pastor found dead in NY hotel

What happens in the City So Nice They Named It Twice stays in NYNY. Unless it doesn't. I feel for the yahoo's family.

217 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:51:38pm

re: #215 publicityStunted

Andrew Breivik's surviving victims and the families of those who didn't would beg to differ.

Seriously, what a bunch of willfully ignorant, whiny, real-life versions of LGF trolls, with a victimhood complex as large as their self-awareness is small.

Makes you wish there was a real-life version of the downding button! Like, a huge red minus sign you could slap on someone's forehead and make them wear for the rest of the day.

Sadly, that's one Internet tradition that doesn't carry over into real life. But whiners claiming to be victims is never a good thing.

218 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:54:20pm

re: #216 austin_blue

What happens in the City So Nice They Named It Twice stays in NYNY. Unless it doesn't. I feel for the yahoo's family.

I even feel bad for him, though not too much. That's a sad and dismal end he came to. But he was the one who brought himself to that end.

219 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:57:28pm

re: #209 EmmmieG

Actually, I was thinking about the Continental Congresses, when the Southern Colonies threatened to shut down the entire process over a clause about slavery.

They weren't pretending or using code words, though. Racism back then sat out in plain sight.

Lol unlike now. //

220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:02:17pm

Happy Birthday to MEEEeee!

221 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:09:54pm

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Birthday to MEEEeee!

Hurt yourself somehow, bunky?

222 Firstinla  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:10:52pm

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Happy Birthday to MEEEeee!

Is there cake?

223 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:11:57pm

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I go for a walk to feel less depressed and come back to this?

/happy birthday to you too

224 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:12:47pm

Ron Paul supporters decry media neglect

Ron Paul finished just 152 votes behind Michele Bachmann in the Ames Straw Poll, but from the headlines and TV news coverage, it’s hard to tell he even showed up.

With the exception of The New York Times and The Des Moines Register, most major newspaper headlines didn’t even mention his name in their reports of Saturday’s contest. Nor was he anywhere to be found on the Sunday morning talk shows.

By Monday’s second-day stories, Paul had disappeared from the prevailing narrative of the Republican primary race altogether, as consensus coalesced around the dynamics between Bachmann, newcomer Rick Perry and front-runner Mitt Romney.

“We are certainly disappointed, and we think that people are missing a very big story here,” said Jesse Benton, Paul’s campaign manager. “You look at ’07, and Mike Huckabee was able to turn what was a very weak second place — Mitt Romney had 4,516 votes and Huckabee had 2,587 — into a huge national story.”

The Texas congressman’s campaign and supporters blame the curious lack of coverage on the mainstream media’s bias. Though some charge this bias is of the typical liberal variety, most complain it is more of a bias against anyone the media consider an “unelectable” candidate.

Thousands of highly motivated, very wired Paul supporters have been letting the media know their displeasure in no uncertain terms — sending emails to reporters, filling comments sections below columns and even leaving messages on the voicemails of experts quoted in stories they don’t like.

That last bolded paragraph is what freetoken once called "The Dance of the Paulian Troll". The Paulians are mad that the media persists in seeing Ron Paul as the nutcase he is.

225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:16:36pm

re: #222 Firstinla

Is there cake?

Funny you should ask. Went to a friends house for dinner (out of town) and his wife made a "Coca Cola Cake" just for me.

Ever had "Coca Cola Cake"?

Frickin' fantastic.

So, yes. There was cake.

226 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:17:14pm

re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Spoiler: There really was a cake.

227 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:17:58pm

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

Ron Paul supporters decry media neglect

That last bolded paragraph is what freetoken once called "The Dance of the Paulian Troll". The Paulians are mad that the media persists in seeing Ron Paul as the nutcase he is.

One more excerpt from this column, and this one is funny:

Paul’s supporters, who run an array of blogs and Facebook groups unaffiliated with the Paul campaign, have been trying to counter this attitude by flooding the inboxes and comments sections of the mainstream media journalists writing about the campaign.

Conservative columnist Michael Walsh became a target for his New York Post column “A two-man race,” and noted the phenomenon Monday on the National Review Online.

“And the winner is … Ron Paul! That, at least, is the conclusion of most of the commenters so far on my New York Post column today,” he wrote, later adding, “Well, I hate to break the news to them, but Ron Paul has about as much chance of becoming president as Lyndon LaRouche.”

228 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:18:15pm

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

29 AGAIN???

230 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:20:46pm

re: #228 Floral Giraffe

29 AGAIN???

Still!

231 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:21:26pm

re: #228 Floral Giraffe

29 AGAIN???

I think he'll admit to 35 now.

[waves]

232 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:22:22pm

re: #229 publicityStunted

OH CORN DOGS

233 Firstinla  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:22:23pm

re: #228 Floral Giraffe

29 AGAIN???

There have been rumors...

234 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:23:24pm

re: #229 publicityStunted

That almost deserved a down ding.
But, since you own shares in brain bleach....
LOL!

235 Firstinla  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:24:37pm

re: #229 publicityStunted

...because I just bought shares in a manufacturer of brain bleach

Didn't we just see a similar image of the Bachmann doing the same thing? What is it with Republicans?

236 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:25:36pm

re: #235 Firstinla

Didn't we just see a similar image of the Bachmann doing the same thing? What is it with Republicans?

Why does it even matter? It's just someone eating a damn corndog.

237 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:27:38pm

re: #235 Firstinla

Didn't we just see a similar image of the Bachmann doing the same thing? What is it with Republicans?

we're carnivores!

238 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:27:50pm

re: #235 Firstinla

Didn't we just see a similar image of the Bachmann doing the same thing? What is it with Republicans?

State fairs. It's the season for state fairs. The candidates have to hit them all.

239 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:29:31pm

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

Why does it even matter? It's just someone eating a damn corndog.

What, exactly, about this corndog indicates a state of lost salvation?

240 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:30:11pm

re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist

State fairs. It's the season for state fairs. The candidates have to hit them all.

Romney had the presence of mind to only eat his off-camera.

241 laZardo  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:30:15pm

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

Why does it even matter? It's just someone eating a damn corndog.



That's the joke.

242 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:33:58pm

re: #235 Firstinla

Didn't we just see a similar image of the Bachmann doing the same thing? What is it with Republicans?

Un-self-conscious, feckless, not paying attention to what they're doing.

243 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:36:07pm

re: #236 Dark_Falcon

Why does it even matter? It's just someone eating a damn corndog.

You will not catch Michelle Obama being so stupid as to smoke a damn corndog in public. There are reasons for that.

244 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:39:24pm

re: #243 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

You will not catch Michelle Obama being so stupid as to smoke a damn corndog in public. There are reasons for that.




You're right

Instead, she just inhales fries!

[Link: caveviews.blogs.com...]

245 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:40:23pm

re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist

State fairs. It's the season for state fairs. The candidates have to hit them all.

Man,,, you just walk by some of those booths and the aromas alone entice you

246 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:41:52pm

re: #244 sattv4u2

You're right

Instead, she just inhales fries!

[Link: caveviews.blogs.com...]

I heard she also plants organic watermelons on the WH lawn and invites all Obama's hip hop Luo Mau Mau friends over for bbq and fried chicken.

247 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:43:47pm

re: #246 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I heard she also plants organic watermelons on the WH lawn and invites all Obama's hip hop Luo Mau Mau friends over for bbq and fried chicken.

nope, but she does eat veggies, and again, not a flattering photo

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Point being, as Dark stated Why does it even matter

248 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:44:51pm

re: #229 publicityStunted

...because I just bought shares in a manufacturer of brain bleach

OMG, he beat Bachmann. Prophetic.

249 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:45:33pm

re: #247 sattv4u2

nope, but she does eat veggies, and again, not a flattering photo

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Point being, as Dark stated Why does it even matter

I heard her butt needs a zip code of it's own. A conservative on Twitter even said so, so it must be true because they never lie about anything.

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:45:38pm

re: #244 sattv4u2

You're right

Instead, she just inhales fries!

[Link: caveviews.blogs.com...]

OMG, she has the nerve to eat something fried? After telling children to eat their veggies?

251 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:46:00pm

re: #237 sattv4u2

we're carnivores!

Republicans aren't the only carnivores.

252 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:46:29pm

re: #251 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Republicans aren't the only carnivores.

ReallY?

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:47:06pm

Anyway, I'm not a state fair corn-dog eater myself, mostly because hot fried food in stifling heat does not appeal to me.

But if you're a candidate, you have to eat the damn corn dog.

254 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:47:14pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

OMG, she has the nerve to eat something fried? After telling children to eat their veggies?

Good plug for Idaho, Maine and other tater producing states

255 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:47:58pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

OMG, she has the nerve to eat something fried? After telling children to eat their veggies?

The Obamas and their socialist lightbulbs are tearing away the fabric of God's Favorite Country!!!

256 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:48:48pm

re: #253 SanFranciscoZionist

Anyway, I'm not a state fair corn-dog eater myself, mostly because hot fried food in stifling heat does not appeal to me.

But if you're a candidate, you have to eat the damn corn dog.

Did you see the fried butter?

State fair foods are hilarious.

257 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:49:39pm

re: #249 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Don't get hostile. We were making the point that this game can be played using just about anyone and that photos like that really shouldn't matter. Satt and I aren't Michelle Obama haters, and we never have been. Don't lump us in with the haters just because we're right of center.

258 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:50:00pm

re: #256 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Did you see the fried butter?

State fair foods are hilarious.

I have heard tell of the deep-fried butter.

Last county fair I attended, I got the veggie pita from the Greek Orthodox church. It had tzadziki.

259 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:50:14pm

bbiab (depending on how long it takes me to install and test this new encoder)

260 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:51:37pm

re: #257 Dark_Falcon

Don't get hostile. We were making the point that this game can be played using just about anyone and that photos like that really shouldn't matter. Satt and I aren't Michelle Obama haters, and we never have been. Don't lump us in with the haters just because we're right of center.

Quit looking for excuses to feel offended. I didn't say anything about you or Satt and Michelle Obama. You are not being oppressed just because you read something contrary on the internet.

261 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:53:22pm

re: #258 SanFranciscoZionist

I have heard tell of the deep-fried butter.

Last county fair I attended, I got the veggie pita from the Greek Orthodox church. It had tzadziki.

I keep meaning to go to the Greek Orthodox festival held at the church on Valencia and 14th - you probably know the one. That's some good eatin'.

262 Stanghazi  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:55:15pm

re: #239 EmmmieG

What, exactly, about this corndog indicates a state of lost salvation?

lol

263 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:00:04pm

re: #260 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Quit looking for excuses to feel offended. I didn't say anything about you or Satt and Michelle Obama. You are not being oppressed just because you read something contrary on the internet.

After your #247, I thought you were firing hostile sarc at Satt and I. At no time did I think myself "oppressed". I don't play the victim card on LGF, OCSP. Ask the people who've been here a while, they'll tell you.

264 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:00:34pm

Perry sounds like he's running or Rush Limbaugh's job instead of president.

Speaking just now in Iowa, Perry said, “If this guy (Bernanke) prints more money between now and the election, I dunno what y’all would do to him in Iowa but we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treasonous in my opinion.”

Oh, and another call-out of Obama's patriotism...

In response to a question from Danny Yadron of the Wall Street Journal, who asked Perry if he was suggesting that Obama didn’t love this country, Perry replied: ” I dunno, you need to ask him.”

We gotta hear 15 months worth of this shit?

God, I hope the rent boy calls a press conference sooner than later.
/

265 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:01:21pm

It's true that "eating" photos are almost always unflattering, but really...aren't some foods just a wee bit more, er, "suggestive" than others?

266 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:05:19pm

re: #263 Dark_Falcon

After your #247, I thought you were firing hostile sarc at Satt and I.

It was general sarc about Michelle Obama, nowhere near as hostile as the actual filthy jokes circulated about Michelle Obama, her body type, weight, food, watermelon at the whitehouse, hip hop bbq's, etc. But it was not directed at anyone in particular. That's your overwillingness to feel like a target or victim. You're not.

267 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:06:23pm

re: #264 makeitstop

I would dearly love to see Perry or Bachmann get the nomination and then just get DESTROYED by Obama in the general. I think that's honestly the only way to eject the Tea Party and bury the Bircher/Dominionist/Austrian School side of the GOP. if Romney gets the nod, the TP crazy stays put and gains power

268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:07:14pm

re: #264 makeitstop

God, I hope the rent boy calls a press conference sooner than later.
/

Give it time. These are male conservatives who grandstand on all their superior morals and values. So you know what that means.

269 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:08:12pm

re: #268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Give it time. These are male conservatives who grandstand on all their superior morals and values. So you know what that means.

Dead hooker in the state house?
//

270 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:11:53pm

re: #267 WindUpBird

I would dearly love to see Perry or Bachmann get the nomination and then just get DESTROYED by Obama in the general. I think that's honestly the only way to eject the Tea Party and bury the Bircher/Dominionist/Austrian School side of the GOP. if Romney gets the nod, the TP crazy stays put and gains power

Bachmann I have no fear of.

Perry could be a problem.

271 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:13:05pm

re: #267 WindUpBird

I would dearly love to see Perry or Bachmann get the nomination and then just get DESTROYED by Obama in the general. I think that's honestly the only way to eject the Tea Party and bury the Bircher/Dominionist/Austrian School side of the GOP. if Romney gets the nod, the TP crazy stays put and gains power

TBH, I don't. AFAIC, these are just more of the same recycled frothing-at-the-mouth bigots that have been crapping all over the country since the Know-Nothings. After the stupid tea party, they'll just pop up in another paranoid, seething, sniveling incarnation every bit as venal as the last.

272 engineer cat  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:14:04pm

re: #267 WindUpBird

i think perry is the fatal siren that will lead the gop to founder on the rocks

he's just what the wingnuts were looking for, but in two or three months his revival tent jimmy swaggert gushing is really gonna get on most people's nerves

273 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:15:02pm

re: #265 publicityStunted

It's true that "eating" photos are almost always unflattering, but really...aren't some foods just a wee bit more, er, "suggestive" than others?

One would think.

274 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:16:05pm

re: #272 engineer dog

i think perry is the fatal siren that will lead the gop to founder on the rocks

he's just what the wingnuts were looking for, but in two or three months his revival tent jimmy swaggert gushing is really gonna get on most people's nerves

You're assuming he can't change that for the general election, and I think he can. Perry has a history of being able to assume the form that the voters he is seeking want to see. He's like Sauron in the Second Age of Middle Earth in LotR

275 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:16:16pm

re: #272 engineer dog

i think perry is the fatal siren that will lead the gop to founder on the rocks

he's just what the wingnuts were looking for, but in two or three months his revival tent jimmy swaggert gushing is really gonna get on most people's nerves

I hope you're right. It's totally possible.

276 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:16:40pm

re: #270 SanFranciscoZionist

Bachmann I have no fear of.

Perry could be a problem.

I don't fear perry at all, he's got so many negatives and just looks like the most hilariously oily creep, I can't imagine him grabbing independents with all the bonkers dominionist crap, the secessionist rhetoric, and I can't imagine that after 8 years of Bush, people will be like "That was sweet! Let's go with another GOP Texas governor who sounds the same, but with Twice The Bible!"

But I could be an optimist!

277 engineer cat  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:17:51pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon


He's like Sauron in the Second Age of Middle Earth in LotR

lol

278 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:18:23pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

You're assuming he can't change that for the general election, and I think he can. Perry has a history of being able to assume the form that the voters he is seeking want to see. He's like Sauron in the Second Age of Middle Earth in LotR

Well, if he can, he'd better get on it.

So far, he's issued a veiled threat to the chairman of the Fed and questioned Obama's patriotism - twice.

And that's just his first day. I'm wondering how he'll try and top it tomorrow. Maybe challenge Joe Biden to a fist fight or something.

279 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:18:36pm

re: #271 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

TBH, I don't. AFAIC, these are just more of the same recycled frothing-at-the-mouth bigots that have been crapping all over the country since the Know-Nothings. After the stupid tea party, they'll just pop up in another paranoid, seething, sniveling incarnation every bit as venal as the last.

They won't go away, that's true, but right now, they have enough critical mass within the GOP to get elected to sabotage government, and I'm imagining that would change if the TP golden candidate is just flattened at the polls

There's gotta be GOP brass who despise the TP bircher upstarts, but they need juice to kill the cancer

280 Kragar  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:18:45pm

re: #268 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Give it time. These are male conservatives who grandstand on all their superior morals and values. So you know what that means.

Rent boys, interns and a love child hidden away somewhere.

281 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:19:30pm

re: #272 engineer dog

i think perry is the fatal siren that will lead the gop to founder on the rocks

he's just what the wingnuts were looking for, but in two or three months his revival tent jimmy swaggert gushing is really gonna get on most people's nerves

Agreed a million percent

282 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:24:23pm

re: #277 engineer dog

lol

Thanks for getting that. I know it was a bit of an 'inside' line, but but I wanted to avoid well worn lines like calling someone a chameleon. Gotta keep things fresh.

283 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:24:47pm

re: #276 WindUpBird

I don't fear perry at all, he's got so many negatives and just looks like the most hilariously oily creep, I can't imagine him grabbing independents with all the bonkers dominionist crap, the secessionist rhetoric, and I can't imagine that after 8 years of Bush, people will be like "That was sweet! Let's go with another GOP Texas governor who sounds the same, but with Twice The Bible!"

But I could be an optimist!

Must say, neither of them scare me, because both are extremely familiar. So are the self-loathing illiterates looking for the next demagogue to tell them how to live. Palin's not finished taking their money, either. /Schadenfreude

re: #279 WindUpBird

There's gotta be GOP brass who despise the TP bircher upstarts, but they need juice to kill the cancer

Yeah, the way I look at it, the McCain/Blueblood/Bushista types REALLY resent the teahadi hayseeds if only because they make them look bad. That's another internal conflict endemic to the rightwing. They are on a serious collision course in 2012 if they don't find themselves a moderate to balance out the current frontrunners. /More Schadenfreude

284 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:28:23pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

You're assuming he can't change that for the general election, and I think he can. Perry has a history of being able to assume the form that the voters he is seeking want to see.

Well that, and his constituency of dupes have the collective critical thinking skills of a rutabaga. They're very easily manipulated, especially by pushing a few social issues. I expect him to do quite well.

285 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:30:06pm

re: #283 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

gonna be something to watch, that's for sure!

286 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:36:37pm

Is there room for another Klown in that Klown Kar?

Bill Kristol:

I'm told by two reliable sources that Rudy Giuliani intends to run for the GOP nomination for president in 2012. He may throw his hat in the ring soon.

Hoo boy.

287 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:38:06pm

re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Funny you should ask. Went to a friends house for dinner (out of town) and his wife made a "Coca Cola Cake" just for me.

Ever had "Coca Cola Cake"?

Frickin' fantastic.

So, yes. There was cake.

And a very happy birthday to you FBV. Many returns of the day.

288 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:41:50pm

re: #286 makeitstop

Is there room for another Klown in that Klown Kar?

Bill Kristol:

Hoo boy.

Bill Kristol, who is always wrong on everything he utters lol. Let's hope he's right about this one, for the R party's sake.

289 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:42:09pm

Goodnight.

290 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:42:27pm

re: #229 publicityStunted

...because I just bought shares in a manufacturer of brain bleach

Cotton Bowl in the background, that's the Texas State Fair. One *must* eat a CornyDog. You are going to hear a *lot* of innuendo about Pointy Boots' sexuality in the next year.

You might want to pay attention.

291 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:43:56pm

I just gotta post this image of Perry again. Fuckin' love it. Dude looks like a little kid in a suit, whoopin' it up, playing "Texas gubner." Go get 'em Ricky, them there innocent people ain't goin' to execute themselves. The cop in the background must be wondering what kind of jackass he's been assigned to protect.

292 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:45:25pm

re: #290 austin_blue

Cotton Bowl in the background, that's the Texas State Fair. One *must* eat a CornyDog. You are going to hear a *lot* of innuendo about Pointy Boots' sexuality in the next year.

You might want to pay attention.

I remember, from the Jurassic period of 2 years ago [Link: www.statesman.com...]

293 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:46:38pm

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

this image of Perry

Dumb, stupid secessionist.

294 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:46:58pm

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

OMG, she has the nerve to eat something fried? After telling children to eat their veggies?

It's a travesty, because potatoes aren't veggies.

295 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:47:07pm

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

I just gotta post this image of Perry again. Fuckin' love it. Dude looks like a little kid in a suit, whoopin' it up, playing "Texas gubner." Go get 'em Ricky, them there innocent people ain't goin' to execute themselves. The cop in the background must be wondering what kind of jackass he's been assigned to protect.

I IZ COWBOY!

296 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:56:21pm

re: #295 Varek Raith

I IZ COWBOY!

Anybody who underestimates this guy is an idiot.

297 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 10:58:51pm

re: #296 austin_blue

Anybody who underestimates this guy is an idiot.

True.
Doesn't mean I can't have fun at his expense.
;)

298 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:01:44pm

re: #292 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I remember, from the Jurassic period of 2 years ago [Link: www.statesman.com...]

That was written by my neighbor, Gardner. He lives three blocks away from me with his wife and two beautiful girls, one of whom is now driving. He sent a General Alert on the neighborhood OneList to watch out for her.

299 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:03:19pm

I want to say Obama would beat Perry easily but I am reminded of two things. First, Perry's won three statewide elections in the second biggest populated state in the union including once in a very Democratic year, 2006 and he beat off a primary challenger who happened to be a long time US senator this year as well. I am also reminded of a story my Dad told me about Ronald Reagan. Now, to the conservatives and right of center folks here, I am not suggesting that Rick Perry and Ronald Reagan are the same ideologically so I don't mean offense. Anyhow, it must have been when Reagan primaried Ford or right before the 1980 campaign. My dad was driving with my grandfather and they saw a Reagan sticker. My dad whom was in his 20's at the time laughed at it and wondered who in their right mind would vote for Ronald Reagan. My grandfather, I guess because he saw how rightward the Republican party had moved and such warned him that it could happen. Well, you all know what happened in 1980. My grandfather passed away in the winter of '79. Today, a man like my grandfather would be derided as an ebil socialist by Perry, Bachmann, and the people who comprise the modern right because as an arbitrator, he was able to empathize with labor union employees.

300 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:04:46pm

re: #297 Varek Raith

True.
Doesn't mean I can't have fun at his expense.
;)

No, please, mock to your hearts delight! Just understand that this guy wears DragonSkin under his suit and boots and takes no prisoners. He's as nasty as a honeybadger. He doesn't give a shit.

301 Varek Raith  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:06:57pm

re: #300 austin_blue

No, please, mock to your hearts delight! Just understand that this guy wears DragonSkin under his suit and boots and takes no prisoners. He's as nasty as a honeybadger. He doesn't give a shit.

I get ya.
*Gonna need a bigger clue x four against Perry*

302 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:16:33pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

I want to say Obama would beat Perry easily but I am reminded of two things. First, Perry's won three statewide elections in the second biggest populated state in the union including once in a very Democratic year, 2006 and he beat off a primary challenger who happened to be a long time US senator this year as well. I am also reminded of a story my Dad told me about Ronald Reagan. Now, to the conservatives and right of center folks here, I am not suggesting that Rick Perry and Ronald Reagan are the same ideologically so I don't mean offense. Anyhow, it must have been when Reagan primaried Ford or right before the 1980 campaign. My dad was driving with my grandfather and they saw a Reagan sticker. My dad whom was in his 20's at the time laughed at it and wondered who in their right mind would vote for Ronald Reagan. My grandfather, I guess because he saw how rightward the Republican party had moved and such warned him that it could happen. Well, you all know what happened in 1980. My grandfather passed away in the winter of '79. Today, a man like my grandfather would be derided as an ebil socialist by Perry, Bachmann, and the people who comprise the modern right because as an arbitrator, he was able to empathize with labor union employees.

First the upding. Now the sarcasm:

Your Grandfather was obviously a Socialist for seeing two sides to anything.

End sarcasm mode.

I think it's pitiful that this country has come to this. A small group, completely uninterested in the Greater Good, has paralyzed the Government into not doing what any human with a basic understanding of macroeconomics, and is able to add and subtract, knows needs to be done. Expenditures are now outstripping by 40%. If you cut *all* discretionary spending, you still couldn't make up the difference. The *only* way to do it is new revenue.

And the world is watching to see if we will commit economic suicide. The money is there.

Madness.

303 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:19:04pm

re: #302 austin_blue

First the upding. Now the sarcasm:

Your Grandfather was obviously a Socialist for seeing two sides to anything.

End sarcasm mode.

I think it's pitiful that this country has come to this. A small group, completely uninterested in the Greater Good, has paralyzed the Government into not doing what any human with a basic understanding of macroeconomics, and is able to add and subtract, knows needs to be done. Expenditures are now outstripping income by 40%. If you cut *all* discretionary spending, you still couldn't make up the difference. The *only* way to do it is new revenue.

And the world is watching to see if we will commit economic suicide. The money is there.

Madness.

304 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:20:26pm

And since I seem to pontificating to myself, I am for the rack. Night Lizards! Sweet dreams.

305 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:21:18pm

re: #302 austin_blue

First the upding. Now the sarcasm:

Your Grandfather was obviously a Socialist for seeing two sides to anything.

End sarcasm mode.

I think it's pitiful that this country has come to this. A small group, completely uninterested in the Greater Good, has paralyzed the Government into not doing what any human with a basic understanding of macroeconomics, and is able to add and subtract, knows needs to be done. Expenditures are now outstripping by 40%. If you cut *all* discretionary spending, you still couldn't make up the difference. The *only* way to do it is new revenue.

And the world is watching to see if we will commit economic suicide. The money is there.

Madness.

Ha, thanks. Never knew the man unfortunately. I agree though, it is madness. I see candidates like Perry, Bachmann, and others who clearly do not understand economics at all and whose only policy seems to be cut taxes/social programs. Yet at the same time, they want to spend more on defense, build more prisons, etc. Where do they think money comes from? This has been a problem IMO for the right since Bush and his advisers thought it would be a great idea to insist on tax cuts during wartime.

306 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:23:02pm

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

I just gotta post this image of Perry again. Fuckin' love it. Dude looks like a little kid in a suit, whoopin' it up, playing "Texas gubner." Go get 'em Ricky, them there innocent people ain't goin' to execute themselves. The cop in the background must be wondering what kind of jackass he's been assigned to protect.

that image of perry is going to be EVERYWHERE if he gets the nod

307 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:23:34pm

I so very very very much want Bachman to be the Republican nominee, she will guarantee a second term for Obama.

308 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:32:02pm

re: #307 Floral Giraffe

I so very very very much want Bachman to be the Republican nominee, she will guarantee a second term for Obama.

I agree. I think Obama could win even bigger than the first time if he ran against her honest.

309 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:36:21pm

re: #306 WindUpBird

that image of perry is going to be EVERYWHERE if he gets the nod

Somehow he's managed to make this guy look classy, mature and reserved by comparison, that's quite the accomplishment All the same elements are there, dude in a suit shooting a firearm recklessly into the air, and while I'm fairly sure Perry was firing blanks that doesn't make him look any less like a child playing with his toy.

310 engineer cat  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:39:37pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

two big differences between reagan and perry

1. perry is selling exactly the same line of palaver that reagan did 30 years ago - gummint is the problem, low taxes and no regulations will grow the economy, etc, etc. 30 years ago this message was fresh and plausible. now it's old and tired and only wingnuts believe it

2. reagan was smoooove. he was positive, humorous, and teevee ready. remember that marshal mcluhan pointed out that teevee is a 'cool', not a 'hot' medium. perry is emotional, riled up, and 'hot'

311 HappyWarrior  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:41:55pm

re: #310 engineer dog

two big differences between reagan and perry

1. perry is selling exactly the same line of palaver that reagan did 30 years ago - gummint is the problem, low taxes and no regulations will grow the economy, etc, etc. 30 years ago this message was fresh and plausible. now it's old and tired and only wingnuts believe it

2. reagan was smooove. he was positive, humorous, and teevee ready. remember that marshal mcluhan pointed out that teevee is a 'cool', not a 'hot' medium. perry is emotional, riled up, and 'hot'

True points. I just hope that Obama can beat Perry or really any of these guys.

312 freetoken  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 12:44:52am
MP3 Audio
313 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 12:45:21am

This is what happens when I eat to much and fall asleep at 8:30.
Morning honcos.

314 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:05:41am

MY radio just said a 6.5 earthquake was just reported off Indonesia.

315 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:33:17am
"If we discovered that, you know, space aliens were planning to attack and we needed a massive buildup to counter the space alien threat and really inflation and budget deficits took secondary place to that, this slump would be over in 18 months," he said. "And then if we discovered, oops, we made a mistake, there aren't any aliens, we'd be better--"

"We need Orson Welles, is what you're saying," Rogoff cut in.

"There was a 'Twilight Zone' episode like this in which scientists fake an alien threat in order to achieve world peace," Krugman said. "Well, this time, we don't need it, we need it in order to get some fiscal stimulus."

Of course, Krugman is just using a space invasion as an example. But that hasn't stopped some people from framing his comments as part of a giant conspiracy by a shadowy group of elites to enslave the world through a fake alien attack.

316 freetoken  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:50:04am

Oh look, who is that with whom Herman Cain is hanging... it's ... it's ... it's Art Robinson!:

Youtube Video

Yup, Robinson is running again and evidently likes the Herman Cain bandwagon.

And here you thought all that "912"-group, hymn singing, tea drinking silver hairs were going to go into the night peacefully, eh?

317 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:53:04am

re: #315 goddamnedfrank

From the link inside the Hufpo story:
Dr Michio Kaku, renowned physicist, author and the apparent mouth piece for the scientific dictatorship that is the NWO, talks on the corporate media about the likely hood of an alien invasion.

Project Blue Beam is a very controversial subject and concerns the government carrying out a fake alien invasion to forward the agenda of creating their much sought after One World Government.

What better way to make the people surrender the last of their rights and freedoms then to be presented with an unbeatable enemy from another world??

The Dr mentioned is the guy that is always on Discovery, NatGeo and so on. I didn't know he was part of the NWO. Those fuckers are always fooling me. Drats!!!
//
(AJ's site is also all over this, so sleep easy)

318 freetoken  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:56:58am

re: #317 Cannadian Club Akbar

Kaku is a media hog. Years ago he became a popular guest for Art Bell when Art was still doing his show. I think because he has a silver main and looks "foreign" Kaku plays into the stereotype the media moguls love so much.

319 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:03:29am

re: #318 freetoken

I remember seeing him once, then he was everywhere. Now the guy I see is on Discovery Science, a physicist, British dude. Great show. He kinda talks to you like you're an idiot while not making you feel like one, which works well for me.:)

320 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:06:40am

re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar

Brian Cox is the dudes name.

321 freetoken  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:07:41am

re: #319 Cannadian Club Akbar

Brian Cox is the current heart throb of TV science. The series running on Discovery was broadcast on the BBC a little while ago.

At least Cox does put a few pieces of real physics into his shows, though they are scattered far and wide in between all the pretty pictures and poetry.

Cox started life, IIRC, as a rock band member.

322 freetoken  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:08:06am
MP3 Audio
323 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:18:53am

re: #321 freetoken

I guess whatever gets kids to be interested works for me. I HATED those stoopid B&W films we had to sit through in class. I don't know what the curriculum in skools is right now, but the earlier you show stuff like this, the sooner they can focus on the skills needed to possibly pursue studies needed, whether it's for a career or just out of personal interest.

324 researchok  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:45:36am

Morning, all

325 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:56:13am

Yesterday went all around the center of Zurich, which is quite small. Will post a couple of pics later.

326 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:00:13am

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

Yesterday went all around the center of Zurich, which is quite small. Will post a couple of pics later.

walking in circles like that, you must be dizzy!

327 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:01:54am

Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi addressed the delegates to the 2011 USW Constitutional Convention. Her speech touched on those areas that the middle class hold near and dear– Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid and of course … Jobs.

[Link: www.usw.org...]

The Shanghai-based company employed as many as 2,500 workers at peak times on the project, including 1,000 welders, who gained U.S. qualifications specifically for the work, he said. In total, it used 43,000 tons of steel on the project. Another Chinese company, Shanghai Pujiang Cable Co. made the 1- mile main cable for the bridge, Zhou said.

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Um, where were the welders from that they needed to get US qualifications?

328 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:02:39am

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

Yesterday went all around the center of Zurich, which is quite small. Will post a couple of pics later.

There better be some hottie blondes in them there pics!!

329 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:03:49am

re: #325 Sergey Romanov

Yesterday went all around the center of Zurich, which is quite small. Will post a couple of pics later.

Are you there visiting your secret Swiss Bank Accounts?

330 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:03:58am

re: #326 sattv4u2

walking in circles like that, you must be dizzy!

I kinda was yesterday. Actually it was a big zigzag - going through Altstadt on one side of Limmat, going along the Limmatquai, enjoying view of lake Zurich, crossing Limmat, traveling in the backward direction through Altstadt, then turning 180 once again and going along Bahnhofstrasse, and then turning back and going to Bahnhof through some other streets.

331 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:04:35am

re: #329 sattv4u2

Are you there visiting your secret Swiss Bank Accounts?

Stay in your place, my people will be there in a minute.

332 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:04:46am

re: #329 sattv4u2

Are you there visiting your secret Swiss Bank Accounts?

His real fake name is Jason Borne.

333 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:05:29am

re: #327 Cannadian Club Akbar

Um, where were the welders from that they needed to get US qualifications?

Just spit ballin here, but the off shore companies she and hubby have ties too??

334 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:05:47am

re: #328 Cannadian Club Akbar

There better be some hottie blondes in them there pics!!

You horndog, there's Google Images for you.

335 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:06:47am

re: #332 Cannadian Club Akbar

His real fake name is Jason Borne.

Great, now that we know his IDENTITY I won't have to watch the movie!

Spoiler!

336 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:07:28am

re: #333 sattv4u2


Um, where were the welders from that they needed to get US qualifications?

Just spit ballin here, but the off shore companies she and hubby have ties too??

Actually, I think they have companies in American Samoa. Fishing ones. I don't think American Samoa got a raise in minimum wage when all that went down. Can't remember.

337 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:08:31am

re: #335 sattv4u2

Great, now that we know his IDENTITY I won't have to watch the movie!

Spoiler!

No, you have his real fake identity, but you don't know his fake fake identity, fake real identity or real real identity. That's in parts 10 through 16.

338 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:09:42am

One of his identities has a name "Neo".

339 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:11:03am

re: #338 Sergey Romanov

One of his identities has a name "Neo".

And one is Jasmine, but just on the days he feels special!

340 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:11:54am

re: #334 Sergey Romanov

You horndog, there's Google Images for you.

Heh.
Image: puzzles-for-blondes-cefjhjkohjkoeghl.jpg

341 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:17:44am

In one of the dumbest movie mistakes ever, when Bourne leafs through his fake passports, a Russian one shows up, with an (almost) meaningless jumble of letters.

Image: 50e55ddf0e2a.jpg

They simply typed "Foma Kiniaev" with the Russian layout turned on. *facepalm*

342 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:17:49am

re: #340 Cannadian Club Akbar

Heh.
Image: puzzles-for-blondes-cefjhjkohjkoeghl.jpg

I'm glad they're not!

343 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:22:01am

re: #341 Sergey Romanov

In the movie E.T., there is a scene where one of the main characters is speaking. Another kid in the scene mouths the words as the kid says them. Wish I could remember the exact scene.

344 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:29:30am

I never knew about this website. Should get a workout from people here for the next 14 months.
[Link: www.opensecrets.org...]

346 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:36:34am

researchok posted this:

[Link: www.economist.com...]

Now add torture to the mix.

347 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:37:47am

re: #346 Sergey Romanov

researchok posted this:

[Link: www.economist.com...]

Now add torture to the mix.

People have a strange and worrying tendency to admit to things they have not, in fact, done
Back in the sixties I did Marilyn Monroe,,, does that count?

348 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:39:04am

re: #347 sattv4u2

People have a strange and worrying tendency to admit to things they have not, in fact, done
Back in the sixties I did Marilyn Monroe,,, does that count?

Depends on whether you even existed then. /

349 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:40:22am

re: #346 Sergey Romanov

researchok posted this:

[Link: www.economist.com...]

Now add torture to the mix.

I won't admit to half the stuff I've done, let alone stuff I didn't do.

350 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:40:50am

re: #348 Sergey Romanov

Depends on whether you even existed then. /

I did

But don't tell the IRS ,, I never told them!!

351 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:41:51am

re: #350 sattv4u2

I did


I see you will confess literally to anything!!

352 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:44:53am

re: #351 Sergey Romanov

I see you will confess literally to anything!!

Ever since my wedding day when I said "I DO", we don't!


:(

353 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:47:00am

For those that missed it, re-post from yesterday

Well,, THAT was interesting

Just got off the phone with a head hunter. Seems as if I could, if I choose, be in the running for the position of CTO (chief technical officer) for a satellite provider.

UPSIDE , a guaranteed 5-10 year contract starting at a little over double what I make now

I would, however, have to move to Azerbaijan!!

So .,,, stay in Atlanta Georgia,, or move to Azerbaijan?!?!

354 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:47:45am

re: #353 sattv4u2

For those that missed it, re-post from yesterday

Well,, THAT was interesting

Just got off the phone with a head hunter. Seems as if I could, if I choose, be in the running for the position of CTO (chief technical officer) for a satellite provider.

UPSIDE , a guaranteed 5-10 year contract starting at a little over double what I make now

I would, however, have to move to Azerbaijan!!

So .,,, stay in Atlanta Georgia,, or move to Azerbaijan?!?!

Heheheh.

355 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:48:54am

A white powdery substance believed to be narcotics was discovered on the body of a 42-year old megachurch Florida pastor who was discovered dead in a Times Square hotel room, a law enforcement official said Monday.

In 2009, Tims and his wife Riva divorced after he admitted to a year-long affair with a stripper. The couple had been married for 15 years

[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

356 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:50:46am

re: #353 sattv4u2

For those that missed it, re-post from yesterday

Well,, THAT was interesting

Just got off the phone with a head hunter. Seems as if I could, if I choose, be in the running for the position of CTO (chief technical officer) for a satellite provider.

UPSIDE , a guaranteed 5-10 year contract starting at a little over double what I make now

I would, however, have to move to Azerbaijan!!

So .,,, stay in Atlanta Georgia,, or move to Azerbaijan?!?!

[Link: www.cia.gov...]

357 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:51:02am

re: #355 Cannadian Club Akbar

A white powdery substance believed to be narcotics was discovered on the body of a 42-year old megachurch Florida pastor who was discovered dead in a Times Square hotel room, a law enforcement official said Monday.

In 2009, Tims and his wife Riva divorced after he admitted to a year-long affair with a stripper. The couple had been married for 15 years

[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

I must be doing this agnostic secular humanist thing wrong. 'Morning, all.

358 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:52:34am

BTW, satty, here's a guy who is quite an objective traveler (despite being a troll on the intertubez), run this through google translate and it will give you a partial glimpse of "down to earth" Azerbaijan:

[Link: www.tema.ru...]

[Link: www.tema.ru...]

359 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:53:37am

re: #358 Sergey Romanov

BTW, satty, here's a guy who is quite an objective traveler (despite being a troll on the intertubez), run this through google translate and it will give you a partial glimpse of "down to earth" Azerbaijan:

[Link: www.tema.ru...]

[Link: www.tema.ru...]

Thanks,, I will,, but snapshot,,, positive/ negative??

360 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:53:50am

re: #357 Decatur Deb

I must be doing this agnostic secular humanist thing wrong. 'Morning, all.

This guy knew what he was doing.
From the Linky:
After discovering Christianity, he earned degrees in accounting and theology and worked at a ministry in Baltimore.

361 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:54:33am

re: #359 sattv4u2

Hmm. Well, if you're in Baku, you'll prolly be OK. ;)

362 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:55:11am

re: #360 Cannadian Club Akbar

This guy knew what he was doing.
From the Linky:
After discovering Christianity, he earned degrees in accounting and theology and worked at a ministry in Baltimore.

So basically, he can figure out how many singles each stripper should get per lap dance

363 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:55:20am

re: #359 sattv4u2

Thanks,, I will,, but snapshot,,, positive/ negative??

The guys in the 3rd pic of the 1st link are burying an IED.
/

364 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:56:27am

re: #363 Cannadian Club Akbar

The guys in the 3rd pic of the 1st link are burying an IED.
/

So ,,, not much different than many major US cities!!!

//

365 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:58:38am

re: #361 Sergey Romanov

Hmm. Well, if you're in Baku, you'll prolly be OK. ;)

[Link: www.google.com...]

366 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 3:59:34am

re: #365 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.google.com...]

Hey ,,, how did you know thats the house they said I could have!!

[Link: www.travel-images.com...]

367 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:01:17am

re: #366 sattv4u2

Hey ,,, how did you know thats the house they said I could have!!

[Link: www.travel-images.com...]

You might want to change the bath water...
Image: AzerbaijanWeb_13-2.jpg

368 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:03:28am

From Lebedev's site above:

National feature of all men in the country - to sit in the street and do nothing. As soon as the Azerbaijani man accomplishes something in his life, he goes outside, sits down and does nothing.

;)

Image: IMG_6236.jpg
Image: IMG_6370.jpg
Image: IMG_6233.jpg
Image: IMG_6120.jpg
Image: IMG_6241.jpg

What a country! ///

369 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:03:33am

It was totally pristine before he got in.

That was one of the guys burying the IED !

370 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:04:21am

re: #368 Sergey Romanov

From Lebedev's site above:

;)

Image: IMG_6236.jpg
Image: IMG_6370.jpg
Image: IMG_6233.jpg
Image: IMG_6120.jpg
Image: IMG_6241.jpg

What a country! ///


I have a brother in law that would fit right in!

371 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:04:42am

re: #366 sattv4u2

Hey ,,, how did you know thats the house they said I could have!!

[Link: www.travel-images.com...]

Streets and buildings look a lot like eastern Turkey. Get a sense of the local attitudes before you tell them you're from 'Georgia'.

372 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:05:14am

re: #370 sattv4u2

I have a brother in law that would fit right in!

Send him instead and have your %%!

373 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:05:43am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

Streets and buildings look a lot like eastern Turkey. Get a sense of the local attitudes before you tell them you're from 'Georgia'.

Yeah ,, that thought went through my mind

375 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:12:58am

Oooh, I see Tea Party now hates Allen West.

[Link: thehill.com...]

He should torture some more people stat.

376 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:13:16am

re: #374 Sergey Romanov

Hey now, weren't you saying that taking pictures of politicos while eating should be banned?

377 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:13:35am

re: #376 Obdicut

Hey now, weren't you saying that taking pictures of politicos while eating should be banned?

It's out there!

378 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:14:13am

Wisconsin recall elections end today. Maybe next time the elected officials could use the money to flee the state. Again.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

379 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:15:21am

re: #374 Sergey Romanov

Missed this:

Image: Perry_Iowa_Corn-dog.jpg

Was discussed upthread (starts at #229)

380 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:15:50am

re: #376 Obdicut

Hey now, weren't you saying that taking pictures of politicos while eating should be banned?

Politician who eat in front of cameras are fucking stoopid. That is the first rule of a campaign. DON"T EAT WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE AROUND!!! Sheesh.

381 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:16:48am

re: #378 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wisconsin recall elections end today. Maybe next time the elected officials could use the money to flee the state. Again.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

I hear Minnesota is lovely this time of year!

382 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:17:52am

re: #380 Cannadian Club Akbar

Politician who eat in front of cameras are fucking stoopid. That is the first rule of a campaign. DON"T EAT WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE AROUND!!! Sheesh.

That would mean a lot of very hungry politicians

383 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:19:36am

re: #382 sattv4u2

That would mean a lot of very hungry politicians

Didn't John Kerry have a pic of him with a cheese steak? He looked like the thing was attacking him.

384 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:20:28am

re: #380 Cannadian Club Akbar

Politician who eat in front of cameras are fucking stoopid. That is the first rule of a campaign. DON"T EAT WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE AROUND!!! Sheesh.

Especially foods that are more than 1.5X as long as they are wide.

385 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:21:16am

re: #383 Cannadian Club Akbar

Didn't John Kerry have a pic of him with a cheese steak? He looked like the thing was attacking him.

I thought the "outrage" of him with the Philly Cheese Steak was him asking for a very non "traditional" cheese on it

386 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:23:23am

re: #383 Cannadian Club Akbar

Didn't John Kerry have a pic of him with a cheese steak? He looked like the thing was attacking him.

GOOGLE results for John Kerry Cheese Steak Images

[Link: www.google.com...]

387 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:23:47am

re: #385 sattv4u2

I thought the "outrage" of him with the Philly Cheese Steak was him asking for a very non "traditional" cheese on it

I think I'm thinking of a news report as opposed to a pic. But yes, wrong cheese. And he had lettuce and tomato on it.

388 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:26:51am

re: #387 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think I'm thinking

A) ,, about time
B) ,, don't hurt yourself
C),, will the thought die of loneliness
D) ,, all of the above

389 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:27:24am

re: #387 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did it have something to do with Cheeze Whiz or something like that? (I don't even know what it is but I remember all sorts of crap).

390 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:28:31am

re: #388 sattv4u2

Wow, slow done there, Rene.

391 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:28:35am

My son and daughter-in-law from Alabama are coming for the weekend!

It's very nice because I haven't seen them in over a year. They have already placed an order for the pie.

392 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:29:05am

re: #389 Sergey Romanov

Did it have something to do with Cheeze Whiz or something like that? (I don't even know what it is but I remember all sorts of crap).

I think he asked for swiss. The choices, I think, are Whiz or Provolone. Soon some Philly Lizards will be here to straighten us out.

393 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:29:25am

re: #389 Sergey Romanov

Did it have something to do with Cheeze Whiz or something like that? (I don't even know what it is but I remember all sorts of crap).

iirc,,, "authentic" Philly cheese steaks have either Cheese Whiz (or a cheese whiz like substance) or American cheese

He asked for something like Swiss

394 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:29:56am

re: #393 sattv4u2

arugula!!!!1

395 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:30:25am

re: #390 Sergey Romanov

Wow, slow done there, Rene.

He tosses a soft ball, I'm hitting for the fences!

396 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:31:23am

Tammy Bruce hates Rick Perry

Youtube Video
Youtube Video
397 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:32:53am

Sometimes I think, therefore sometimes I am. (c) someone

398 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:34:41am

re: #396 000G

Tammy Bruce hates Rick Perry

[Video]

Shocka (NOT!)

She supported both Bush the elder as well as son, and in light of youngers "fued" with Perry it's no surprise that she would oppose him

399 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:35:36am

re: #396 000G

Hmm, wiki says she's gay. Taking a page from Pam's book, is she homocidal? ///mea culpa

400 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:38:21am

re: #398 sattv4u2

Shocka (NOT!)

She supported both Bush the elder as well as son, and in light of youngers "fued" with Perry it's no surprise that she would oppose him

She says she likes Bush jr. only to the extent that he listened to Cheney. I remember her chastizing Bush for not being tough enough. Basically she says both Bushes were Liberals. And she considers herself an ex-Leftie, so…

401 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:39:52am

GoV openly posts National Front press-releases now.

402 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:46:34am

re: #401 Sergey Romanov

GoV openly posts National Front press-releases now.

What's National Front? Sounds like a stormfront sort of operation.

403 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:47:55am

re: #391 Alouette

My son and daughter-in-law from Alabama are coming for the weekend!

It's very nice because I haven't seen them in over a year. They have already placed an order for the pie.

Looks nice!

404 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:48:36am

re: #402 iceweasel

What's National Front? Sounds like a stormfront sort of operation.

The other side of National Back

Geeezz ,,, don't you know ANYTHING!?!?!

405 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:48:49am

re: #402 iceweasel

Le Pen's venture.

406 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:49:50am

Oooh, slut-shaming.

[Link: gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...]

Afterwards, they can charge the offended strutter as an accessory before the fact — i.e., if some dolt grabs her, then at the very least she is his partner in crime. And the offense in which they both participate is a serious transgression against civil order. Sadistic provocation is a breach of the peace.

407 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:50:00am

re: #405 Sergey Romanov

Le Pen's venture.

ooohh-- thanks. Hope you're enjoying zurich!

re: #404 sattv4u2

The other side of National Back

Geeezz ,,, don't you know ANYTHING!?!?!

Not much. I'm only an iceweasel after all. /

408 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:51:04am

re: #407 iceweasel

ooohh-- thanks. Hope you're enjoying zurich!

re: #404 sattv4u2

Not much. I'm only an iceweasel after all. /

I just went for one day when an opportunity presented itself out of the blue. I'll have longer journeys to Paris and Rotterdam in the coming days.

409 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:53:12am

re: #406 Sergey Romanov

Oooh, slut-shaming.

[Link: gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...]

These idiots are afraid of sluts because they probably aren't sure what to do with them once they get them. Cowards.

410 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:53:50am

re: #408 Sergey Romanov

I just went for one day when an opportunity presented itself out of the blue. I'll have longer journeys to Paris and Rotterdam in the coming days.

Oh fantastic! I hope it's not all work and you get some time to enjoy yourself.

That GoV article is a real trip:

If the act of strutting your stuff results in an equal reaction, a girl must take at least half the responsibility for whatever transpires as a result. And if she can’t comprehend that basic contract with life, then she needs a keeper because she’s not a mature adult.

Nice. Women who dress 'provocatively' are guilty of 'sadistic provocation'. Doesn't occur to these asshats that 'provocation'is relative (for some cultures showing the elbow or the back of the neck is considered 'provocative') and rape has nothing to do with how the victim dressed.

411 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:56:49am

re: #410 iceweasel

I wonder if they would excuse such actions by the supposed "Middle Eastern" foes. I think they would be all like "They're after our noble fair wommynfolk!" or something.

PS: I basically have a long European vacation, although I do a slight bit of work. Currently in Germany.

412 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:57:40am

re: #410 iceweasel

showing the elbow or the back of the neck

Stop it,, you're making me hot!

413 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:58:54am

re: #411 Sergey Romanov

I wonder if they would excuse such actions by the supposed "Middle Eastern" foes. I think they would be all like "They're after our noble fair wommynfolk!" or something.

PS: I basically have a long European vacation, although I do a slight bit of work. Currently in Germany.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find handwringing over feminism there when it suits them-- I'm sure they're concerned about how "Islamists" treat women. As usual, it turns out that they admire the repressivbe tactics they formally condemn.

ps good on you! hope you enjoy yourself. :)

414 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 4:59:51am

When weed whackers are outlawed, only outlaws will have weed whackers.
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

415 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:00:07am

re: #412 sattv4u2

showing the elbow or the back of the neck

Stop it,, you're making me hot!

You should go to Azerbaijan after all!///

kiddin, they're probably as decadent there, showing their elbows and hair ///

416 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:00:25am

re: #413 iceweasel

Thanks :)

417 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:01:02am

re: #411 Sergey Romanov

Currently in Germany.

Which State?

418 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:02:49am

re: #417 000G

Hessen.

419 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:02:50am

re: #417 000G

Which State?

Drunken.
///

420 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:03:09am

re: #418 Sergey Romanov

Hessen.

Good luck.

421 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:03:19am

re: #415 Sergey Romanov

You should go to Azerbaijan after all!///

kiddin, they're probably as decadent there, showing their elbows and hair ///

heh,, , as "strict" about things as Arab nations are supposed to be, I was taken to some pretty ''liberal" private clubs by my Saudi and later Jordanian hosts

422 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:03:41am

re: #417 000G

Which State?

Confusion

423 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:03:54am

re: #420 000G

Danke.

424 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:08:03am

Alrighty. Going for a quick stroll. bbiab.

425 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:10:14am

re: #424 Cannadian Club Akbar

Alrighty. Going for a quick stroll. bbiab.

perp walk?

426 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:14:32am

No idea what happened to this poor guy at Bahnhofstrasse:

Image: DSC00059.jpg

427 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:22:44am

re: #426 Sergey Romanov

No idea what happened to this poor guy at Bahnhofstrasse:

Image: DSC00059.jpg

Global Warming Meltdown
EVIDENCE,, the puddle from what was the top half of him settled around the hips!

428 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:24:26am

re: #427 sattv4u2

Ding-dong, the prick is dead. Which old prick? The wicked prick! //

429 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:25:06am

re: #428 Sergey Romanov

Ding-dong, the prick is dead. Which old prick? The wicked prick! //

That hasn't melted yet!
It's still a pricksicle!

430 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:31:55am

Water in Limmat is green:

Image: DSC00028.jpg

And this wee river must've flown all the way from China:

Image: DSC00005.jpg

View from Quaibruecke on lake Zurich:

Image: DSC00041.jpg

And don't forget: the Big Brother is always watching you!

Image: DSC00012.jpg

431 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:47:43am

More GoV:

If Anders Behring Breivik acted alone, or if he simply worked in company with one or more co-conspirators who shared his opinions and his psychopathology, this would be a boring essay, and could be ended right here.

So, just for the sake of argument, let’s assume not only that he had accomplices, but that he was in fact a “weaponized psychopath” who was discovered, cultivated, and trained by an as-yet unidentified organization for the express purpose of discrediting anti-jihad activists and politicians, and halting any effective resistance to the Islamization of Europe.

Such an operation seems highly unlikely, and Mr. Breivik is probably exactly what he seems to be. However, there are still loose ends to the case — tantalizing hints of outside complicity, and some intriguing coincidences.

432 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:51:36am

re: #431 Sergey Romanov

More GoV:

So, just for the sake of argument

So make something up totally out of whole cloth then spread it around till it becomes ingrained in conspiracy theorists heads!

I weep for humanity

433 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:53:19am

re: #431 Sergey Romanov

More GoV:

Ah yes. Let's pretend that this guy isn't one of us, and wasn't inspired by psychotic "anti-jihadists".

They ordered the meal and are crying that they have to eat it.

434 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:54:32am

Heh. David Cameron blamed the riots on a lack of morals.

SA did his analysis on past empires.

[Link: www.somethingawful.com...]

435 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:56:39am

re: #433 iceweasel

They even mention this:

Articles appeared in the Russian press describing the killer’s paramilitary training at a secret camp in Belarus (more on this in later posts).

What they don't mention is that those were unconfirmed rumors by one source from the Belarusian opposition. I await the second part of the "portfolio", where this unconfirmed rumor will probably become an established fact.

436 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:58:35am

re: #435 Sergey Romanov

more on this in later posts

TRANSLATION

We are in the middle of photo-shopping him into pictures at the "camp"

437 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:00:53am

re: #436 sattv4u2

more on this in later posts

TRANSLATION

We are in the middle of photo-shopping him into pictures at the "camp"

BTW,,, for plausible deniability, they will be grainy images of someone with roughly the same build and facial structure/ coloration

439 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:03:04am

a one minute movie?

I won't have time to eat the whole box of popcorn!!

:(

440 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:03:59am

re: #439 sattv4u2

A coupla there.

442 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:12:48am

re: #435 Sergey Romanov

They even mention this:

What they don't mention is that those were unconfirmed rumors by one source from the Belarusian opposition. I await the second part of the "portfolio", where this unconfirmed rumor will probably become an established fact.

I think sattv's probably right and the photoshops are underway....or they'll just post again and link to this article as 'proof'.

443 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:14:22am

re: #442 iceweasel

I think sattv's probably right

Like a stopped watch, only WAY less frequent!

444 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:31:05am

All right. I am cancelling all voting for this category. Here, ladies and gentlemen, is your Father of the Year.
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]

445 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:33:56am

re: #444 Cannadian Club Akbar

All right. I am cancelling all voting for this category. Here, ladies and gentlemen, is your Father of the Year.
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]


Areested 99 times ,, at 37 years old?

Lets say his 1st was 17

Thats almost 4 arrests A YEAR,, EVERY YEAR

446 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:35:01am

re: #444 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #445 sattv4u2

Areested 99 times ,, at 37 years old?

Lets say his 1st was 17

Thats almost 4 arrests A YEAR,, EVERY YEAR

Not even counting any under other names!!
He was also found to have 10 dates of birth, nine names and five Social Security numbers used as aliases

447 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:37:05am

re: #446 sattv4u2

re: #445 sattv4u2

Not even counting any under other names!!
He was also found to have 10 dates of birth, nine names and five Social Security numbers used as aliases

BFD. A fake name, social security number and DOB? I see no problem giving that to law enforcement.

448 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:37:10am

A Page critical of the Police in Long Beach by yours truly... Photographer detained...

449 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:39:01am

re: #447 Cannadian Club Akbar

BFD. A fake name, social security number and DOB? I see no problem giving that to law enforcement.

times 10

450 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:46:21am

re: #448 Rightwingconspirator

A Page critical of the Police in Long Beach by yours truly... Photographer detained...

Peachy. Wonder what The Chief would think of this?

Image: m197400610065.jpg

451 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:47:54am

re: #450 wlewisiii

Peachy. Wonder what The Chief would think of this?

Image: m197400610065.jpg

He would think you're pretentious since you shoot in B&W.
//

452 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:50:40am

re: #451 Cannadian Club Akbar

He would think you're pretentious since you shoot in B&W.
//


Heh. I can only wish I were that good. But it was one of Edward Weston's breakthrough images.

[Link: www.geh.org...]

453 darthstar  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:52:05am

WHAT!??!

Oh, hello everyone. Good morning.

454 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:52:40am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

455 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:52:59am

re: #450 wlewisiii

Nice b&w shot. I have been told "no photography" at the Grand Central Public Market in downtown. "Tourist" and cellphone shots are not against the alleged rules. But show up with a nice DSLR and look out you must be either suspicious or a pro looking to publish with paying anyone.

I wonder which is deemed the greater threat to society?

456 darthstar  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:53:13am

re: #454 sattv4u2

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

Was it something I said?

457 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:56:02am

re: #455 Rightwingconspirator

Nice b&w shot. I have been told "no photography" at the Grand Central Public Market in downtown. "Tourist" and cellphone shots are not against the alleged rules. But show up with a nice DSLR and look out you must be either suspicious or a pro looking to publish with paying anyone.

I wonder which is deemed the greater threat to society?

I have no doubt me and my 4x5 and 6 3/4" triple convertible as I attempt to emulate Weston or Adams or Plowden (my modern favorite) would be an enormous threat to security. Even more than some DSLR they could almost understand...

458 darthstar  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:56:57am

Okay...I need some help. The coffee is downstairs. I am upstairs. Think, people...there has to be a solution.

459 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:58:18am

re: #458 darthstar

Okay...I need some help. The coffee is downstairs. I am upstairs. Think, people...there has to be a solution.

There is always the Acme Floor Drill Straw. Wiley E. vouches for it.

460 Honorary Consul General  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:58:27am

re: #458 darthstar

Okay...I need some help. The coffee is downstairs. I am upstairs. Think, people...there has to be a solution.

Get married.

461 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 6:58:54am

re: #458 darthstar

Okay...I need some help. The coffee is downstairs. I am upstairs. Think, people...there has to be a solution.

Train a child as 'coffee wallah'.

462 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:00:39am

re: #458 darthstar

Okay...I need some help. The coffee is downstairs. I am upstairs. Think, people...there has to be a solution.

Next time, plug in the coffee maker next to your bed.

463 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:01:16am

re: #457 wlewisiii

At Pershing square they have a policy-Still shots fine, no tripod. Video-Permit only. And guess what, as soon as I use preview mode they are right on me about video without a permit. They are well aware DSLR means video capability. But they are so screwed with cell phones now, LOL.

Ah well off to work.

464 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:05:32am

re: #460 Cannadian Club Akbar

Get married.

Too late

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

465 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:07:51am

re: #460 Cannadian Club Akbar

Get married.

ha!
It's funny because it's true.

466 darthstar  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:09:03am

re: #464 Sergey Romanov

Too late

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Yep...two years next Monday! Thanks for linking that...I'm actually hanging out with my wife's family in New Mexico this week...going golfing with her father in a couple of hours - my dance partner in the pics - it's good to be on vacation.

Okay...time to walk downstairs and get my coffee...and make tea for my lovely bride still sleeping beside me.

Cheers, everyone.

467 darthstar  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:10:00am

re: #465 iceweasel

ha!
It's funny because it's true.

I always bring morning tea to my wife...but she gets me tea or coffee on my birthday...

468 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:10:14am

re: #466 darthstar

Good time to you, man!

469 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:11:17am

Fitch says US is still AAA.

470 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:13:09am

re: #469 Sergey Romanov

(What they probably don't say is that it's complete AAARGHHHH!)

471 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:19:23am

re: #467 darthstar

I always bring morning tea to my wife...but she gets me tea or coffee on my birthday...

Jimmah makes me coffee in the morning, then I stumble into the kitchen to make him a thermos of coffee and lunch to bring to work. I'm pretty much a zombie that early in the day.

I loved your photos! Didn't realise you were the darthstar at kos. Congratulations!

472 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:22:27am

Morning all!

Not here for long.

How is everyone?

473 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:26:15am

Which ever family member is awake before me, makes the coffee when I ask, so by the time I get downstairs, it is ready to pour.

474 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:26:56am

Well, my time is up.

Have a great day all!

475 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:34:08am

re: #315 goddamnedfrank

"If we discovered that, you know, space aliens were planning to attack and we needed a massive buildup to counter the space alien threat and really inflation and budget deficits took secondary place to that, this slump would be over in 18 months," he said. "And then if we discovered, oops, we made a mistake, there aren't any aliens, we'd be better--"

"We need Orson Welles, is what you're saying," Rogoff cut in.

"There was a 'Twilight Zone' episode like this in which scientists fake an alien threat in order to achieve world peace," Krugman said. "Well, this time, we don't need it, we need it in order to get some fiscal stimulus."

Of course, Krugman is just using a space invasion as an example. But that hasn't stopped some people from framing his comments as part of a giant conspiracy by a shadowy group of elites to enslave the world through a fake alien attack.

For once I'll say that Paul Krugman did nothing wrong. He was making an economic point, only to get yelled at by conspiracy loons. It's sad when that happens, and it causes legitimate points not to be made.

476 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:39:39am

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

For once I'll say that Paul Krugman did nothing wrong. He was making an economic point, only to get yelled at by conspiracy loons. It's sad when that happens, and it causes legitimate points not to be made.

Upding for not slamming Krugman!

How are you DF? Good to see you!

477 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:47:23am

re: #476 iceweasel

Upding for not slamming Krugman!

How are you DF? Good to see you!

Hoping to get back to work on Friday. My new meds are working, but getting my ADA accommodation processed has proven slow going. It needs to be done before I can return, to make sure no one tries to jam me up.

478 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:48:54am

re: #477 Dark_Falcon

Hoping to get back to work on Friday. My new meds are working, but getting my ADA accommodation processed has proven slow going. It needs to be done before I can return, to make sure no one tries to jam me up.

What's going on? I wasn't even aware that you were sick-- good luck with the meds. Good luck!

479 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:50:53am

You know, we're only starting the second full day of Perry's campaign, and I'm sick to death of his face already.

I sincerely hope he keeps mouthing off until he completely fries his candidacy. At the current rate of mouthing off, I'll give it three weeks before everyone is as sick of him as I already am.

480 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:51:15am

Just roaming around the web, going to and fro in the Earth and about the Earth. Unlike Satan, I have found some upright and honest men, and women, but pretty damn few.
The Perry-sites are out in droves to defend their man. From the turnout, you'd think there were millions of lobbyists and corporate grifters who might benefit from his election. Surely nobody else would be so stupid and gullible as to support the guy.

481 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:52:12am

re: #355 Cannadian Club Akbar

A white powdery substance believed to be narcotics was discovered on the body of a 42-year old megachurch Florida pastor who was discovered dead in a Times Square hotel room, a law enforcement official said Monday.

In 2009, Tims and his wife Riva divorced after he admitted to a year-long affair with a stripper. The couple had been married for 15 years

[Link: blogs.wsj.com...]

"In 1996, he and his wife Riva moved to Orlando, where they founded the New Destiny Christian Center."

They are neo-Pentecostal/Charismatics and very very very very likely social/cultural conservative Republicans. If they're not, I will eat my raspberry beret.

482 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:53:21am

Has anyone else seen that clip of Rick Perry saying, "when I'm in, I'm in all the way!" at his announcement this weekend, with the little move at the end?
He obviously means both inches.

483 Kronocide  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:56:21am

re: #482 Shiplord Kirel


He obviously means both inches.

Sublime Innuendo

484 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:56:47am

re: #480 Shiplord Kirel

Surely nobody else would be so stupid and gullible as to support the guy.

Never underestimate the stupid gullibility of the angry/bitter, seething, socon socipoath...

485 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:57:44am

re: #478 iceweasel

What's going on? I wasn't even aware that you were sick-- good luck with the meds. Good luck!

Not very sick, but I was falling asleep during the day and it got me in some trouble. The doc started me on some new meds, but wanted me on leave for a couple weeks.

486 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:57:53am

re: #484 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Never underestimate the stupid gullibility of the angry/bitter, seething, socon socipoath...

They're nihilistic. They want destruction because they dream of a new world order.

487 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:58:37am

re: #485 Dark_Falcon

Not very sick, but I was falling asleep during the day and it got me in some trouble. The doc started me on some new meds, but wanted me on leave for a couple weeks.

okay, hope it works and that you're feeling ok. ;)

488 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:59:54am

re: #486 iceweasel

They're nihilistic. They want destruction because they dream of a new world order.

They're like communists in that way.

489 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:00:23am

re: #486 iceweasel

They're nihilistic. They want destruction because they dream of a new world order.

That, and they're just self-loathing, miserable people too cowardly to simply off themselves. So they fantasize about some all powerful being doing it for them, instead.

490 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:01:55am

Some more good craziness from The Residents, the best guide to the weird Biblical stories:

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491 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:03:14am

re: #489 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That, and they're just self-loathing, miserable people too cowardly to simply off themselves. So they fantasize about some all powerful being doing it for them, instead.

That's just not true. Very few social conservatives show any sign of suicidal tendencies. Don't let your dislikes go over the top and cause you to think things that are not true. That's how disastrous mistakes happen.

492 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:03:17am

re: #490 Sergey Romanov

Ha, love "Spilling the Seed".

493 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:03:52am

re: #489 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

That, and they're just self-loathing, miserable people too cowardly to simply off themselves. So they fantasize about some all powerful being doing it for them, instead.

I doubt it. They imagine that in a new world order they'll be kings.

John Cheever's short story the Brigadier and the Golf Widow is instructive on this.

494 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:04:23am

re: #491 Dark_Falcon

Don't let your dislikes go over the top and cause you to think things that are not true. That's how disastrous mistakes happen.

Go give that fingerwagging lecture the people you're defending.

495 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:06:58am

re: #493 iceweasel

I doubt it. They imagine that in a new world order they'll be kings.

John Cheever's short story the Brigadier and the Golf Widow is instructive on this.

Ridiculous fantasies of escapism and supremacism. The loudest ones today, though, intend to impose it right now, not wait for the future.

496 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:07:24am

re: #494 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Go give that fingerwagging lecture the people you're defending.

Should read: Go give that fingerwagging lecture to the people you're defending.

497 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:07:45am

Grunt!

And we have another raging Teabagger who came out swinging yesterday. Of course I'm speaking or Rick Perry. He's like George Bush only still snorting coke. Or something. That's one hyper wingnut.

498 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:08:19am

re: #494 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Go give that fingerwagging lecture the people you're defending.

DF just made a point in favor of krugman, despite the fact that he thinks krugman is a hack. Be nice and realise that DF is one of those rare people who does inspect and modify his beliefs, even though his general world view is very different from yours-- and mine.

/no fingerwagging!

499 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:09:08am

re: #497 Gus 802

Grunt!

And we have another raging Teabagger who came out swinging yesterday. Of course I'm speaking or Rick Perry. He's like George Bush only still snorting coke. Or something. That's one hyper wingnut.

Grunt!

hey gus. :) how goes it?

500 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:09:42am

This made CBS News...

Rick Perry jabs Bernanke, says "printing more money ... is almost treasonous"

Yeah. "Printing more money is almost treasonous" unless of course you use that Federal money to prop up your state budget. And for all the other Federal government stuff that goes into the Federal Republic of Texas.

501 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:10:53am

re: #499 iceweasel

Grunt!

hey gus. :) how goes it?

Meh. God up around one hour ago. Still working on the coffee. Thinking about the near future. Kind of chilly now but it will be hot and sunny again here pretty soon. Yourself?

502 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:11:31am

re: #501 Gus 802

Meh. GodGOT up around one hour ago. Still working on the coffee. Thinking about the near future. Kind of chilly now but it will be hot and sunny again here pretty soon. Yourself?

"Got" not "God". See. All that Rick Perry/God stuff has gotten to me already.

//

503 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:13:07am

re: #501 Gus 802

Meh. God up around one hour ago. Still working on the coffee. Thinking about the near future. Kind of chilly now but it will be hot and sunny again here pretty soon. Yourself?

G-D makes coffee for Gus? We are obviiously all worshipping the wrong deity.

504 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:13:14am

re: #501 Gus 802

Meh. God up around one hour ago. Still working on the coffee. Thinking about the near future. Kind of chilly now but it will be hot and sunny again here pretty soon. Yourself?

Pretty good here! Usual Scottish summer weather-- which means cold rain when I'm out and suddenly sun when I'm in.
They were filming some zombie movie with brad pitt in glasgow this weekend. Didn't get to see it but the funny part is it's set in Philly. I guess they thought glasgow looks like a zombie philadelphia.

505 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:14:22am

re: #498 iceweasel

DF just made a point in favor of krugman, despite the fact that he thinks krugman is a hack. Be nice and realise that DF is one of those rare people who does inspect and modify his beliefs, even though his general world view is very different from yours-- and mine.

/no fingerwagging!

DF's beliefs and worldview is not the issue. He can change any them or keep them intact, to me that's irrelevant. My main point was that the teeming self-haters in question are the ones making up the bulk of Perry's voting bloc. There is no end to their stupidity and gullibility.

506 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:14:30am

re: #503 Alouette

G-D makes coffee for Gus? We are obviiously all worshipping the wrong deity.

That must be some fine coffee. All energy, no jitter, rich, robust, and not bitter.

I could use a few gallons.

507 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:14:53am

re: #504 iceweasel

Pretty good here! Usual Scottish summer weather-- which means cold rain when I'm out and suddenly sun when I'm in.
They were filming some zombie movie with brad pitt in glasgow this weekend. Didn't get to see it but the funny part is it's set in Philly. I guess they thought glasgow looks like a zombie philadelphia.

Movies that are set in Detroit are usually filmed in Toronto.

508 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:15:27am

re: #504 iceweasel

Pretty good here! Usual Scottish summer weather-- which means cold rain when I'm out and suddenly sun when I'm in.
They were filming some zombie movie with brad pitt in glasgow this weekend. Didn't get to see it but the funny part is it's set in Philly. I guess they thought glasgow looks like a zombie philadelphia.

Glasgow for Philly? Guess that might work for the old parts of Philly.

509 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:16:19am

re: #506 MrSilverDragon

That must be some fine coffee. All energy, no jitter, rich, robust, and not bitter.

I could use a few gallons.

It's Catholic coffee so the it comes with a lot of guilt.

//

510 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:16:30am

re: #505 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

DF's beliefs and worldview is not the issue. He can change any them or keep them intact, to me that's irrelevant. My main point was that the teeming self-haters in question are the ones making up the bulk of Perry's voting bloc. There is no end to their stupidity and gullibility.

I'm not entirely sure that I agree with you that they're self-hating. Hateful and hatefilled, yes.

511 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:17:11am

re: #509 Gus 802

It's Catholic coffee so the it comes with a lot of guilt.

//

Ha! too true.

512 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:18:18am

re: #458 darthstar

Okay...I need some help. The coffee is downstairs. I am upstairs. Think, people...there has to be a solution.

First World Problems!!

513 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:18:38am

re: #509 Gus 802

It's Catholic coffee so the it comes with a lot of guilt.

//

Jewish Mother coffee, now with More Guilt than Catholic coffee!
//

514 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:19:01am

Rupert's in deep shit. Here come the whistle blowers....
Ex-reporter: Phone hacking 'widely discussed' at News of the World

515 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:19:27am

re: #511 iceweasel

Ha! too true.

Think of the poor coffee bean workers!

//

516 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:21:09am

re: #513 Alouette

Jewish Mother coffee, now with More Guilt than Catholic coffee!
//

The coffee is talking to me, "Look at you! Drinking so much coffee! You know that coffee isn't good for your stomach!"

//

517 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:21:35am

re: #510 iceweasel

I'm not entirely sure that I agree with you that they're self-hating. Hateful and hatefilled, yes.

A lot of it does stem from self-loathing of that so-called "sinful nature", and a need for punitive, authoritarian regimes at every level from the family to government, to keep their own desires in line, and punishable.

The goal is to overcome the sin nature by righteous living. Old idea; they've put their own prescriptions for "righteous living" on it, as do all who believe that way. That belief doesn't have to turn self-destructive or lethal. But the Response/NAR/Evangelical Protestant versions are particularly virulent.

518 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:21:42am

I set the coffee maker the night before. Then in the morning I make two thermos of coffee. One for me to drink in the car, and the other for me to drink in the office.

If Zedushka gets up early enough, he can have the rest of the coffee before it shuts off.

519 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:21:44am

re: #504 iceweasel

Pretty good here! Usual Scottish summer weather-- which means cold rain when I'm out and suddenly sun when I'm in.
They were filming some zombie movie with brad pitt in glasgow this weekend. Didn't get to see it but the funny part is it's set in Philly. I guess they thought glasgow looks like a zombie philadelphia.

They wanted extras with an understandable accent.

520 Interesting Times  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:21:56am

re: #510 iceweasel

I'm not entirely sure that I agree with you that they're self-hating. Hateful and hatefilled, yes.

With many of them, I think it kind of all gloms together - any feelings of inadequacy they have (due to economic circumstances, lack of education, etc) are magically wiped away when they get to lord* it over "the other".

*pun intended

521 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:22:06am

re: #498 iceweasel

DF just made a point in favor of krugman, despite the fact that he thinks krugman is a hack. Be nice and realise that DF is one of those rare people who does inspect and modify his beliefs, even though his general world view is very different from yours-- and mine.

/no fingerwagging!

Thank you, Ice.

522 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:22:53am

And CNN is reporting that Walmart's 2nd Qtr numbers are down. Apparently their normal customer base is shopping at dollar stores more, and shopping a bit less overall.

523 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:23:57am

re: #520 publicityStunted

With many of them, I think it kind of all gloms together - any feelings of inadequacy they have (due to economic circumstances, lack of education, etc) are magically wiped away when they get to lord* it over "the other".

*pun intended

Yes. I believe a certain way, so that distinguishes me your superior! So you better give me special rights, or else! Lol, jackasses.

524 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:24:05am

re: #522 oaktree

And CNN is reporting that Walmart's 2nd Qtr numbers are down. Apparently their normal customer base is shopping at dollar stores more, and shopping a bit less overall.

Now that's bad news. If Walmart's down...

525 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:25:03am

re: #516 Gus 802

The coffee is talking to me, "Look at you! Drinking so much coffee! You know that coffee isn't good for your stomach!"

//

Stop that. You're making the plate of danish over on the counter nervous.

526 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:25:30am

re: #517 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

A lot of it does stem from self-loathing of that so-called "sinful nature", and a need for punitive, authoritarian regimes at every level from the family to government, to keep their own desires in line, and punishable.

The goal is to overcome the sin nature by righteous living. Old idea; they've put their own prescriptions for "righteous living" on it, as do all who believe that way. That belief doesn't have to turn self-destructive or lethal. But the Response/NAR/Evangelical Protestant versions are particularly virulent.

Most of them also believe that poverty or illness or bad luck are all judgements issued by god for punishment-- unless it hits THEM.

527 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:26:02am

re: #522 oaktree

And CNN is reporting that Walmart's 2nd Qtr numbers are down. Apparently their normal customer base is shopping at dollar stores more, and shopping a bit less overall.

Yeah, I bet dollar store stocks have been doing well, too.

528 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:26:04am

re: #522 oaktree

And CNN is reporting that Walmart's 2nd Qtr numbers are down. Apparently their normal customer base is shopping at dollar stores more, and shopping a bit less overall.

I might have thought those numbers would be filled in by people who normally shop a little higher up the retail food chain looking for bargains. Guess not.

This is one hell of situation we have here.

529 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:26:41am

re: #519 oaktree

They wanted extras with an understandable accent.

I laughed out loud. jimmah will love that-- we joked that they wanted extras who already looked and walked like zombies.

530 Flounder  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:27:01am

re: #522 oaktree

Lowes is closing stores, one in Ticonderoga NY. It makes me feel guilty cuz I just shit on the manager at my local store, can't buy sheetrock if they don't got no god dam mfing carts!!!

531 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:27:21am

re: #514 Killgore Trout

Rupert's in deep shit. Here come the whistle blowers...
Ex-reporter: Phone hacking 'widely discussed' at News of the World

News Corp. Execs Aware of Hacking Since 2007

News Corp. (NWSA)’s editors at the News of the World Sunday tabloid discussed the practice of phone hacking in daily meetings, a former reporter said, increasing the pressure on executives to explain why they were not aware of it.

The practice was “widely discussed in the daily editorial conference” until “explicit reference to it was banned by the editor,” former royal reporter Clive Goodman said in a March 2007 letter that was published by U.K. lawmakers today. News Corp. deputy Chief Operating Officer James Murdoch will probably be recalled to the U.K. Parliament to answer more questions about the allegations at the now-defunct tabloid.

Murdoch told lawmakers last month that he hadn’t realized until late 2010 that phone hacking was widespread at the News of the World. That’s been contradicted by Tom Crone and Colin Myler, two former executives of the tabloid, who said they informed him in 2008 about an e-mail that suggested more reporters had been involved. The Culture, Media and Sport Committee today examined fresh responses from former employees...

532 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:28:06am

re: #518 Alouette

I set the coffee maker the night before. Then in the morning I make two thermos of coffee. One for me to drink in the car, and the other for me to drink in the office.

If Zedushka gets up early enough, he can have the rest of the coffee before it shuts off.

You have a coffee maker?

/the ones we have are named Jimmah and Ice.

533 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:28:32am

re: #529 iceweasel

I laughed out loud. jimmah will love that-- we joked that they wanted extras who already looked and walked like zombies.

There's an old Vincent Price "zombie" movie from the 60s. Filmed in Italy. Was kind of generic about its location.

534 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:28:59am

re: #529 iceweasel

I laughed out loud. jimmah will love that-- we joked that they wanted extras who already looked and walked like zombies.

Is there still a beer/ale in England called "Brains". My brother was over there drinking in a pub in the 80s where a friend was lamenting that he needed more brains. Perfect zombie extras then - have the pubs run out and then film the denizens stumbling out mumbling about "Brainnnsss".

:)

535 recusancy  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:29:33am

re: #531 Gus 802

News Corp. Execs Aware of Hacking Since 2007

Could Rup possibly see jail time?

536 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:30:02am

The Last Man on Earth (1964)

More like zombie-vampires. They acted more like zombies.

537 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:30:08am

re: #528 SanFranciscoZionist

I might have thought those numbers would be filled in by people who normally shop a little higher up the retail food chain looking for bargains. Guess not.

This is one hell of situation we have here.


I think the down marketers are bypassing Walmart and going straight to the dollar stores. This demographic would generally have an unfavorable opinion of Walmart to start with and would seek other sources for bargains. I like the dollar stores for equivalent items. You can reach the various sections without a major foot expedition, the employees know where things are, and checkout is both faster and less complicated.

538 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:30:36am

re: #535 recusancy

Could Rup possibly see jail time?

My bet is that any and all memos that might implicate his knowledge are long deleted. Someone farther down the food chain will be made the fallguy.

539 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:31:03am

re: #526 iceweasel

Most of them also believe that poverty or illness or bad luck are all judgements issued by god for punishment-- unless it hits THEM.

Well, especially if it hits them. For the faith-healing/NAR/The Response/prosperity gospel types, it's a show of personal moral failure, the result of not praying hard enough, or having enough faith to overcome their sin nature. Very insidious.

540 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:31:12am

re: #535 recusancy

Could Rup possibly see jail time?

I doubt it. He'll plead ignorance. "Hey, how was I supposed to know? I'm just the owner. These guys exceed my authority!" Plus he has enough money to pay plenty of people off.

541 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:32:38am

re: #539 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Well, especially if it hits them. For the faith-healing/NAR/The Response/prosperity gospel types, it's a show of personal moral failure, the result of not praying hard enough, or having enough faith to overcome their sin nature. Very insidious.

Plus you can always blame the Devil or demons for anything bad. A deity with faithful followers and a convenient scapegoat minion or two has it easy. All the glory and none of the blame.

542 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:32:39am

re: #534 oaktree

Is there still a beer/ale in England called "Brains". My brother was over there drinking in a pub in the 80s where a friend was lamenting that he needed more brains. Perfect zombie extras then - have the pubs run out and then film the denizens stumbling out mumbling about "Brainnnsss".

:)

I don't know but I'll have to check!

Here, you'll like this:

Zombie attack: Leicester city council overrun by ‘undead’

Just a week after Leicester's civic leaders admitted they were unprepared for a zombie invasion, a horde of the "undead" has shuffled through the city.

About 150 people in horror make-up took part in the "mass shamble", according to organiser James Dixon.

The mob "groaned and pressed themselves on the glass" at the council's offices.

It followed news last week that a "concerned citizen" had used a Freedom of Information request to ask how the authority would tackle a zombie attack.

543 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:34:06am

re: #542 iceweasel

I don't know but I'll have to check!

Here, you'll like this:

Zombie attack: Leicester city council overrun by ‘undead’

That's flash mob type behavior being used in an amusing and artistic way. (Until some doped up person takes it seriously and breaks out the bats and shotguns.)

544 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:35:16am

re: #541 oaktree

Plus you can always blame the Devil or demons for anything bad. A deity with faithful followers and a convenient scapegoat minion or two has it easy. All the glory and none of the blame.

I knew a fundy who would recite a little exorcism chant when someone ran a stop sign or cut him off in traffic. He was convinced this was caused by demons taking over cars and targeting him personally, rather than by drunkards and careless idiots.

545 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:35:24am

re: #543 oaktree

That's flash mob type behavior being used in an amusing and artistic way. (Until some doped up person takes it seriously and breaks out the bats and shotguns.)

I thought it was cool-- nice to see the technology used in a funny way, not a destructive way.

546 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:36:29am

re: #538 oaktree

My bet is that any and all memos that might implicate his knowledge are long deleted. Someone farther down the food chain will be made the fallguy.

Any schadenfreude directed at Murdoch is probably misplaced. Sure, his philosophy of lowest-common denominator journalism has seriously damaged public discourse and journalism in general, but the creation of the Conservative cult is not really his idea. I don't know him, naturally, but I doubt he has even a fraction of the hardcore wingnut beliefs and truthiness that FOX peddles. Rather, he saw an extremely vulnerable, gullible, and suggestible market segment, and appointed one of their own to sell to them. If the same constituency believed in global warming, UFO landings, or reincarnation, FOX would be pushing that.

If Roger Ailes were to be a fallguy, on the other hand, this nation might just be saved.

547 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:36:48am

re: #541 oaktree

Plus you can always blame the Devil or demons for anything bad. A deity with faithful followers and a convenient scapegoat minion or two has it easy. All the glory and none of the blame.

Yeah, for the types I'm talking about, they have these really detailed demonologies/angelologies...what demon causes what, and angel counteracts it, where demons are located on earth, in what cities, etc. It's kind of interesting from an ivory tower pov. Until one realizes that they take it all very literally. This is why they think only them and those they approve of are qualified to be in government.

548 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:38:39am

re: #544 Shiplord Kirel

I knew a fundy who would recite a little exorcism chant when someone ran a stop sign or cut him off in traffic. He was convinced this was caused by demons taking over cars and targeting him personally, rather than by drunkards and careless idiots.

Yeah - sounds exactly like the type I'm talking about. They have like a 5-dimensional view of the planet. I've known many, many, many people like them.

549 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:39:31am

re: #542 iceweasel

Brains is apparently a brewer in Wales (Cardiff).

[Link: www.sabrain.com...]

550 iossarian  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:40:01am

re: #546 Renaissance_Man

I read an interesting piece recently on Murdoch, and I think he's a lot more power-hungry than that, specifically within the UK, where he perceives the political establishment as having rejected him (for being an outsider).

I think he exemplifies a noxious combination of right-wing economic views and "anything goes" political bomb-throwing.

551 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:40:52am

re: #546 Renaissance_Man

Well, a knocking down of Fox News, followed by its being reconstituted under new leadership, would be a good thing. There's a place for right-of-center journalism, but it must be honest and Fox has ceased to be honest.

552 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:41:38am

re: #547 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, for the types I'm talking about, they have these really detailed demonologies/angelologies...what demon causes what, and angel counteracts it, where demons are located on earth, in what cities, etc. It's kind of interesting from an ivory tower pov. Until one realizes that they take it all very literally. This is why they think only them and those they approve of are qualified to be in government.

Prepare for War by Rebecca Brown

Do you know how Satan can use "doorways" including yoga, role-playing games, and meditation, to bring demonic destruction into your home? In this spiritual warfare manual, Rebecca Brown writes from seven years experience helping deliver many people out of hardcore satanism. In this sequel to her best-selling book He Came to Set the Captives Free, you will learn to stand victoriously against Satan, deal with the dangerous New Age teachings, recognize and deal with satanic ritualistic abuse of children, minister in the area of deliverance, and handle the rarely discussed problems people face after deliverance. Satan hates you and wants to destroy you. To be victorious you must Prepare for War.
553 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:41:41am

re: #547 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, for the types I'm talking about, they have these really detailed demonologies/angelologies...what demon causes what, and angel counteracts it, where demons are located on earth, in what cities, etc. It's kind of interesting from an ivory tower pov. Until one realizes that they take it all very literally. This is why they think only them and those they approve of are qualified to be in government.

Sounds like a Christian-ized variant of having a broad spirit world. Spirits of this, that, and the other thing. Not to mention the left sock demon, and the missed gimmee putt demon*.

* - Who has the ability to make a golf hole move three inches to the right (like in a cartoon) right when you hit the putt. ;)

554 blueraven  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:42:07am

re: #482 Shiplord Kirel

Has anyone else seen that clip of Rick Perry saying, "when I'm in, I'm in all the way!" at his announcement this weekend, with the little move at the end?
He obviously means both inches.

All hat, no cattle?

555 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:43:22am

re: #552 Shiplord Kirel

Prepare for War by Rebecca Brown

Man. That is funny. Talk about crazy...

Satan can use "doorways" including yoga, role-playing games, and meditation, to bring demonic destruction into your home.

556 Lidane  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:43:27am

re: #551 Dark_Falcon

Well, a knocking down of Fox News, followed by its being reconstituted under new leadership, would be a good thing. There's a place for right-of-center journalism, but it must be honest and Fox has ceased to be honest.

Fox News was never honest. It just took a while for people to catch on.

557 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:44:37am

re: #555 Gus 802

Man. That is funny. Talk about crazy...

I'm interested in these doorways of Satan. Can I hire him to do a few floors at the same time?

558 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:44:58am

re: #555 Gus 802

Man. That is funny. Talk about crazy...

Now if she had said yoghurt was a gateway for Satan I might have believed it more, but yoga?
//

559 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:45:10am

re: #555 Gus 802

Man. That is funny. Talk about crazy...

Satan can use "doorways" including yoga, role-playing games, and meditation, to bring demonic destruction into your home.

Check your bathrooms! That is the hiding place for Shit Demon, Wanky Shit Demon, and Mrs. Wanky Shit Demon.

560 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:45:45am

re: #558 oaktree

Now if she had said yoghurt was a gateway for Satan I might have believed it more, but yoga?
//

If you have good central A/C, he might even consider doing a few windows.

561 iossarian  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:45:59am

re: #558 oaktree

Now if she had said yoghurt was a gateway for Satan I might have believed it more, but yoga?
//

What is this yoghurt meme? Have I missed something?

562 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:46:23am

re: #557 iceweasel

I'm interested in these doorways of Satan. Can I hire him to do a few floors at the same time?

Hey. If Satan is doing some cleaning of those floor and she brought up "role playing" maybe we can get Satan into a French maid outfit.

//

563 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:46:38am

re: #542 iceweasel

I don't know but I'll have to check!

Here, you'll like this:

Zombie attack: Leicester city council overrun by ‘undead’

Don't try that in Moscow.

[Link: www.metronews.ru...]

564 iossarian  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:46:54am

re: #561 iossarian

What is this yoghurt meme? Have I missed something?

Oh, I see - Pat Robertson. Carry on.

565 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:48:17am

re: #560 oaktree

If you have good central A/C, he might even consider doing a few windows.

I'm pretty sure Windows 7 is an invention of the Devil.

566 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:48:17am

re: #561 iossarian

What is this yogurt meme? Have I missed something?

It's a gateway food away from good old American process cheese. From yogurt you try hummus. And that converts you into a super sekrit Mooselim sympathizer.
//

567 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:48:25am

"Harold! I'm working with a Satanist!!"

"How do you know?"

"Well, he told me to calm down and that I should MEDITATE more!"

[Insert eerie music here.]

568 Lidane  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:48:37am

Morning, Lizards! I got four hours of sleep last night because I was up late reading The Hunger Games. Good book. Very absorbing, despite being told in first person. For what's supposed to be a YA novel, it's very well crafted. I couldn't go to sleep until I finished it. Now I'm at work and I'm dragging. Heh.

Speaking of dragging, it looks like Karl Rove is trying to drag Rick Perry away from the teabagger abyss:

Rove Slaps Rick Perry: Distancing Yourself From Bush ‘Is Not Smart Politics Strategically Or Tactically’

569 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:48:45am

You know who else liked Yoga?

...

SATAN!

570 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:49:51am

re: #564 iossarian

Oh, I see - Pat Robertson. Carry on.

Not to mention that seeking yogurt can lead you to the Schwartz. And that has to be demonic since Mel Brooks is involved.

571 jaunte  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:50:35am

re: #568 Lidane

"But why he falls into this pattern of sounding like he’s being dismissive of the former president is not smart politics strategically or tactically."


Rove may be discovering something about Perry.

572 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:51:03am

re: #509 Gus 802

It's Catholic coffee so the it comes with a lot of guilt.

//

And here I thought it was Jewish coffee, since guilt and Jewish mothers go hand in hand.... /

573 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:52:01am

re: #572 lawhawk

And here I thought it was Jewish coffee, since guilt and Jewish mothers go hand in hand... /

Well, it could be civet coffee instead. And that comes from somewhere else...

574 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:52:43am

re: #552 Shiplord Kirel

Prepare for War by Rebecca Brown

Great reference. Very influential.

More on Rebecca Brown - [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The funny part about these types is their antipathy towards so-called "new age". A lot of their beliefs stem from the exact same root.

Here's a rough direct line (sorry for the wiki links...this is a quick/dirty post):

New Thought Movement (19th century) --> Phineas P. Quimby (colleague of/influenced Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science) --> Latter Rain movement --> E.W. Kenyon

From there you get Oral Roberts, Pat Robertson, and now these new people like those people from The Response. Like any movement, there are other influences. But much of their theology does stem from 19th century mind-over-matter thought.

575 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:52:46am

re: #572 lawhawk

And here I thought it was Jewish coffee, since guilt and Jewish mothers go hand in hand... /

Catholic coffee is decaffeinated Jewish mother coffee.

576 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:53:53am

re: #552 Shiplord Kirel

Prepare for War by Rebecca Brown

Role Playing Games?

OH NOES!!!11 MY GAMING GROUP IZ A COVEN!!!111 I'M WARLOCK AND I'M GOING TO TEH BASEMENT CAT!!!111 [runs around screaming]

577 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:54:20am

re: #568 Lidane

Speaking of dragging, it looks like Karl Rove is trying to drag Rick Perry away from the teabagger abyss:

Rove Slaps Rick Perry: Distancing Yourself From Bush ‘Is Not Smart Politics Strategically Or Tactically’

Why do I get the feeling that Perry is totally disinclined to listen to Rove?

When you lead off your campaign by calling the president unpatriotic and issuing veiled threats to the Fed chairman, you set a noise level that's kinda hard to dial back.

578 BARACK THE VOTE  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:54:26am

re: #575 Alouette

Catholic coffee is decaffeinated Jewish mother coffee.

You've never had Catholic coffee.

579 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:55:30am

Nice to see that investigators are actually investigating and questioning claims that News Corp execs weren't in the look re: hacking scandal. Turns out that UK investigators found emails that show that they were in the loop and who should be the fall guy to claim he was a rogue in News of the World when the hacking practice was widespread:

Clive Goodman, the former royal reporter jailed for his role in phone hacking, wrote a letter in 2007 claiming that phone hacking was "widely discussed" at editorial meetings, and that former editor Andy Coulson offered to let him keep his job if he agreed to say in court that he was a rogue element within the paper.

The claims are deeply damaging to Coulson, who has always maintained that he did not know about the hacking going on at his paper. They are also politically perilous for Cameron, who took Coulson on even as evidence mounted against him. Moreover, they raise fresh danger for James and Rupert Murdoch, both of whom claimed to know nothing about hacking. Before the documents were released, the select committee for the Department for Culture, Media and Sport announced that it is "likely" to recall James Murdoch when Parliament resumes in September.

580 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:55:42am

re: #576 Dark_Falcon

Role Playing Games?

OH NOES!!!11 MY GAMING GROUP IZ A COVEN!!!111 I'M WARLOCK AND I'M GOING TO TEH BASEMENT CAT!!!111 [runs around screaming]

...

Civil War reenactors are really the soldiers of SATAN!!11ty IT"S TEH ROLE PLAYING!!11ty

581 Lidane  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:56:01am

Talk about a perfect reason to be late to work:

Seven-foot alligator halts start of Texas woman's commute

A seven foot gator under her car. Wow.

582 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:56:32am

Where do they make people like this? In what state, city, or town? On what planet?

583 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:57:10am

re: #555 Gus 802

Man. That is funny. Talk about crazy...

Crazy, but they really believe it. If anyone remembers the backward masking/Dungeons and Dragons controversy among these types, this spirit/demon paranoia was behind it.

584 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:57:21am

re: #574 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

But much of their theology does stem from 19th century mind-over-matter thought.

True enough: They don't mind & you don't matter.

//real effing Christian...

585 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:57:50am

re: #578 iceweasel

You've never had Catholic coffee.

No True Coffee™

586 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:58:02am

re: #577 makeitstop

Why do I get the feeling that Perry is totally disinclined to listen to Rove?

When you lead off your campaign by calling the president unpatriotic and issuing veiled threats to the Fed chairman, you set a noise level that's kinda hard to dial back.

Karl Rove is very smart and knows how to run a presidential campaign. But Rove is George W's man and Rick Perry hates Bush the Younger.

587 jaunte  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:58:17am

re: #581 Lidane

Talk about a perfect reason to be late to work:

Seven-foot alligator halts start of Texas woman's commute

A seven foot gator under her car. Wow.

That's near Brazos Bend park:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

588 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:58:28am

Rebecca Brown, the author of Prepare for War, is quite a controversial figure and was officially diagnosed as mentally ill. Her medical license was revoked by the State of Indiana in 1984 on the grounds that she had

"knowingly and intentionally misdiagnosed her patients", blaming their illnesses on "demons, devils, and evil spirits." A board-appointed psychiatrist diagnosed her as suffering from "acute personality disorders including demonic delusions and/or paranoid schizophrenia" and observed her injecting herself with unknown substances. The board also found that she had over-medicated her patients and administered improper treatments, as well as failed to properly document their treatment.


Her husband and partner in Harvest Ministries, Daniel Yoder, is a convicted conman:

Brown's husband, Daniel Yoder, was arrested on July 29, 1991 in Phoenix, Arizona and extradited to Iowa. Yoder was charged with falsifying motor vehicle registrations and driver’s licenses, and falsifying social security records, allegedly using the social security number of a dead man. During the court proceedings the prosecution amended court documents to include the defendant’s true and correct name of William Joseph Stewart. After initially pleading not guilty, Yoder eventually agreed to a plea bargain in which he pled guilty and was fined $1,976.92, plus a surcharge of $593.08 and court costs.


It won't surprise many of you that they were once affiliated with the Jack Chick hate cult.

589 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 8:59:17am

re: #585 lawhawk

No True Coffee™

No true coffee tastes like vanilla! Hey. That's like pineapple pizza.

No True Pizza™

Hmm. I kind of agree with that sentiment. =)

590 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:00:40am

re: #584 wlewisiii

True enough: They don't mind & you don't matter.

Ha, ain't that the truth.

I don't begrudge these whackodoodle conservative Christian-supremacists their crank beliefs...it's a free country; let 'em. They're just not "free" to impose their beliefs on everyone else. They feel if they haven't, they are personal failures. So, they're at odds with reality on that one.

591 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:00:45am

re: #582 Gus 802

Where do they make people like this? In what state, city, or town? On what planet?

There are literally thousands of them in Lubbock, a lot more in places like Dallas and Atlanta (especially the suburbs). Southern California also has a big contingent.

592 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:00:48am

re: #581 Lidane

Talk about a perfect reason to be late to work:

Seven-foot alligator halts start of Texas woman's commute

A seven foot gator under her car. Wow.

Geez. The worst I get under my car is cats, squirrels and the occasional possum.

593 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:01:16am

I'm reminded of this quote from a Twitter follower of mine:

In the United States, more people believe that houses can be haunted by the dead than believe that the living can cause climate change.

594 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:01:28am

Moments in the application where you realize you're just not the person this school is looking for: How would you handle “controversial issues” (such as speaking in tongues, eternal security, positions on
the second coming of Christ, etc.) in the classroom?

OK, I've taught Catholic school for a few years. I can handle "Mrs. Zionist, do you go to hell if you kill yourself?"

I cannot handle speaking in tongues.

So San Ramon Christian Valley Academy will have to find a different English teacher.

595 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:01:59am

re: #583 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Crazy, but they really believe it. If anyone remembers the backward masking/Dungeons and Dragons controversy among these types, this spirit/demon paranoia was behind it.

That went quite mainstream. My Catholic grandma spent a lot of time fretting that I might take up D&D.

596 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:04:22am

re: #592 makeitstop

Geez. The worst I get under my car is cats, squirrels and the occasional possum.

It would make for a nice purse for the lady, though. :D

597 Gus  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:04:23am

re: #522 oaktree

And CNN is reporting that Walmart's 2nd Qtr numbers are down. Apparently their normal customer base is shopping at dollar stores more, and shopping a bit less overall.

Hey. Did a follow up. It's the other way around:

Wal-Mart Second-Quarter Profit Rises 5.7%

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT), the world’s largest retailer, boosted its profit forecast for the year after second-quarter earnings rose and the Sam’s Club wholesale chain helped the company halt a decline in sales at its U.S. stores.

Profit in the fiscal year ending in January will be $4.41 to $4.51 a share, up from a previous projection of $4.35 to $4.50, Bentonville, Arkansas-based Wal-Mart said today in a statement. The average estimate of 25 analysts in a Bloomberg survey was $4.47. Second-quarter net income climbed 5.7 percent.

598 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:05:41am

re: #588 Shiplord Kirel

Rebecca Brown, the author of Prepare for War, is quite a controversial figure and was officially diagnosed as mentally ill. Her medical license was revoked by the State of Indiana in 1984 on the grounds that she had


Her husband and partner in Harvest Ministries, Daniel Yoder, is a convicted conman:


It won't surprise many of you that they were once affiliated with the Jack Chick hate cult.

Yeah, they broke with Chick, I don't remember about what, probably squabbling over Bible verses. But yeah, like I was saying earlier, few people outside of jihadi dupes can top the gullibility and stupidity of this crowd. They're very ripe for exploitation by demagogues and ripoff artists, and perry will play them just like a cheap cornet, like Dick Armey did.

599 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:07:10am

re: #591 Shiplord Kirel

There are literally thousands of them in Lubbock, a lot more in places like Dallas and Atlanta (especially the suburbs). Southern California also has a big contingent.

Having been one, I can vouch for it.

600 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:10:45am

re: #595 SanFranciscoZionist

That went quite mainstream. My Catholic grandma spent a lot of time fretting that I might take up D&D.

Yeah, my parents, too. No "secular" music, tightly controlled television-watching, narrow reading lists limited to only that type of Christian publication, boycotting movies they'd never seen like Last Temptation of Christ, the works.

Oh yeah, and the grand delusion that they are personally powerful enough to control such things.

601 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:53:03am

re: #589 Gus 802

No true coffee tastes like vanilla! Hey. That's like pineapple pizza.

No True Pizza™

Hmm. I kind of agree with that sentiment. =)

Preferred food of the No True Scotsman? Since they don't like oatmeal.

602 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Tears  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 9:54:13am

re: #597 Gus 802

Hey. Did a follow up. It's the other way around:

Wal-Mart Second-Quarter Profit Rises 5.7%

Apologies then. I must have misunderstood the CNN broadcast.


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