Tom Waits-Cookie Monster: God’s Away on Business

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I’d sell your heart to the junkman baby
For a buck, for a buck
If you’re looking for someone to pull you out of that ditch
You’re out of luck, you’re out of luck

Ship is sinking
The ship is sinking
The ship is sinking

There’s a leak, there’s a leak in the boiler room
The poor, the lame, the blind
Who are the ones that we kept in charge?
Killers, thieves and lawyers

God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business
God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business

Digging up the dead with a shovel and a pick
It’s a job, it’s a job
Bloody moon rising with a plague and a flood
Join the mob, join the mob
It’s all over, it’s all over
It’s all over

There’s a leak, there’s a leak in the boiler room
The poor, the lame, the blind
Who are the ones that we kept in charge?
Killers, thieves and lawyers

God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business
God’s away, God’s away on business, business

Goddamn there’s always such a big temptation
To be good, to be good
There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby
It’s a deal, it’s a deal

God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business
God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business

I narrow my eyes like a coin slot baby
Let her ring, let her ring

God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business
God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business

(h/t: Lidane.)

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270 comments
1 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 1:54:39pm

Heresy!

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2 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 1:57:50pm

Head like a FOAL!

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3 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 1:58:34pm

Tom Waits for president.

4 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 1:59:52pm

The Hand that Feeds

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5 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:02:14pm

re: #3 b_sharp

Tom Waits for president.

Don't be silly.

Cookie Monster for Emperor of the Universe! A cookie in every jar! A Round Deal! With Chocolate Chips!

6 tnguitarist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:05:00pm

Video won't play and there's also an internal error on the front page.

7 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:05:30pm

re: #5 EmmmieG

Don't be silly.

Cookie Monster for Emperor of the Universe! A cookie in every jar! A Round Deal! With Chocolate Chips!

Surely the Emperor of the Universe needs a puppet to run things on every planet.

8 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:06:04pm

re: #6 tnguitarist

Video won't play and there's also an internal error on the front page.

Stop using IE4 as your browser.

9 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:06:44pm

re: #6 tnguitarist

Video won't play and there's also an internal error on the front page.

Works fine for me.

Have you made your yearly offering of chocolate chip cookies and snickerdoodles to the Emperor of the Universe? That might just be your problem.

10 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:06:55pm

re: #8 b_sharp

I'm using Foxfire and it gave me the same message.

11 laZardo  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:07:09pm

OT

Ponies and wrasslin.

12 tnguitarist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:07:12pm

re: #8 b_sharp

Stop using IE4 as your browser.

Yardee yardee yar.....Chrome, baby.

13 tnguitarist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:07:50pm

Can't let a cookie monster post pass without this.

Image: Cookie_Monster.jpg

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:09:39pm

re: #13 tnguitarist

Can't let a cookie monster post pass without this.

Image: Cookie_Monster.jpg

WELCOME TO MICHELE OBAMA'S AMERICA!!

15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:09:39pm

Other than Tom Traubert's Blues? While I can listen to a Waits song, I sure as hell don't enjoy it.

However, something tells me that Waits does not care whether I enjoy it or not.

16 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:10:21pm

Cookie Monster's addiction.

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17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:11:41pm

Sorry. Can't resist....

18 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:13:47pm

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Other than Tom Traubert's Blues? While I can listen to a Waits song, I sure as hell don't enjoy it.

However, something tells me that Waits does not care whether I enjoy it or not.

I give you ...

19 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:14:23pm

re: #8 b_sharp

Stop using IE4 as your browser.

Use of IE? That's a paddlin'...

//

20 blueraven  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:15:54pm

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Other than Tom Traubert's Blues? While I can listen to a Waits song, I sure as hell don't enjoy it.

However, something tells me that Waits does not care whether I enjoy it or not.

Not even...Fumblin with the Blues? Try it.

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21 Lidane  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:15:55pm

re: #19 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Use of IE? That's a paddlin'...

//

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22 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:17:13pm

Cookie Monster says the internet is for porn.

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23 Lidane  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:17:18pm

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Other than Tom Traubert's Blues? While I can listen to a Waits song, I sure as hell don't enjoy it.

However, something tells me that Waits does not care whether I enjoy it or not.

This is my favorite of his:

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24 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:17:44pm

re: #17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's a good thing they had a shaky camera to hide the crappy giant monster design.

25 Idle Drifter  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:19:53pm

re: #22 Cannadian Club Akbar

Avenue Q. Greatest puppet show in the world!

26 makeitstop  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:21:49pm

Dead brilliant, that was.

27 SteveMcG  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:22:27pm

Sullivan beat you to it by about half an hour!

[Link: andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com...]

28 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:23:52pm

re: #25 Idle Drifter

Avenue Q. Greatest puppet show in the world!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

29 zora  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:29:57pm

re: #27 SteveMcG

lidane has it paged also.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

30 shutdown  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:31:28pm

Hello Lizards. Quick question: Who decides which pages are put in the "Featured Pages" column?

31 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:32:08pm

god's out "walking the appalachian trail"

32 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:32:54pm

re: #30 imp_62

Hello Lizards. Quick question: Who decides which pages are put in the "Featured Pages" column?

Anybody who makes Sacrifices to Dead Gods.

33 shutdown  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:33:27pm

re: #32 b_sharp

Anybody who makes Sacrifices to Dead Gods.

Fallen Nietzscheans?

34 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:33:38pm

re: #31 engineer dog

god's out "walking the appalachian trail"

Looking for an old goat.

35 Lidane  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:33:56pm

re: #31 engineer dog

god's out "walking the appalachian trail"

But does he have a wide stance, or a rentboy carrying his luggage?

36 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:34:20pm

re: #15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Other than Tom Traubert's Blues? While I can listen to a Waits song, I sure as hell don't enjoy it.

However, something tells me that Waits does not care whether I enjoy it or not.

I'm the same...sounds like a road grader

37 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:34:58pm

re: #36 albusteve

I'm the same...sounds like a road grader

Bah, humbug!

38 SteveMcG  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:36:07pm

re: #31 engineer dog

god's out "walking the appalachian trail"

Sure He's not hanging out with his Argentine mistress?

39 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:37:10pm

re: #38 SteveMcG

Sure He's not hanging out with his Argentine mistress?

I'm quite sure She does.

40 makeitstop  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:38:09pm

re: #36 albusteve

I'm the same...sounds like a road grader

That's his charm!

41 SteveMcG  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:39:25pm

re: #39 Sergey Romanov

I'm quite sure She does.

Are you saying God's a lesbian?

42 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:40:14pm

re: #41 SteveMcG

Are you saying God's a lesbian?

(S)He is omnisexual.

43 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:40:38pm

re: #38 SteveMcG

Sure He's not hanging out with his Argentine mistress?

Her?

44 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:40:46pm

re: #40 makeitstop

That's his charm!

one mans charm is another mans gag me...
he's a fine writer tho

45 laZardo  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:41:34pm

PAK FA!

46 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:42:12pm

re: #42 Sergey Romanov

(S)He is omnisexual.

(S)he is flat out horny.

47 SteveMcG  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:44:35pm

re: #43 b_sharp

Her?

The reference was to the time SC Governor Mark Sanford went AWOL, said he was hiking on the Appalichian Trail, but it turned out he hopped on the state's airplane to go visit his mistress.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

48 Lidane  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:44:49pm

re: #42 Sergey Romanov

(S)He is omnisexual.

So God is Jack Harkness?

49 SteveMcG  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:46:10pm

Maybe God is more like Freddie Mercury, who pretty much shagged anything not nailed down, and then probably some things that were.

50 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:48:30pm

re: #47 SteveMcG

The reference was to the time SC Governor Mark Sanford went AWOL, said he was hiking on the Appalichian Trail, but it turned out he hopped on the state's airplane to go visit his mistress.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I know.
My comment was a reference to my comment.

51 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:48:52pm

re: #45 laZardo

PAK FA!

Maybe we should call up the Russians and ask if we can buy a couple hundred. Perhaps they'll actually fly, unlike the useless birds we've got already.

52 blueraven  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:49:17pm

re: #36 albusteve

I'm the same...sounds like a road grader

Not all of his songs. In fact, this one is a bit rat pack, smooth in style. To me anyway.

Please Call Me Baby

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53 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:53:38pm

re: #52 blueraven

Not all of his songs. In fact, this one is a bit rat pack, smooth in style. To me anyway.

Please Call Me Baby

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kinda cool...I like it

55 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:58:21pm

crooner...
Harry Connick Jr
cool vid

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56 freetoken  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 2:58:33pm

Homo sapiens, a species that conquered the planetary surface, begins it's final retreat from an attempt to go someplace that proved just too hard:

Manned spaceflights no longer a priority, Russia says

[...]

Roskosmos chief Vladimir Popovkin said Russia was spending almost half of its space budget on manned flights and needed to shift focus to more technology-oriented projects. He added however it would stand by its station commitments.

"Unfortunately manned spaceflight accounts for an unjustifiably large part of the budget: It makes up 48 percent," he told reporters at Russia's flagship MAKS airshow near Moscow.

He added Roskomos would narrow its focus to satellite communication, navigation systems and meterological study.

[...]

57 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:03:34pm

re: #55 albusteve

crooner...
Harry Connick Jr
cool vid

[Video]

The first time I ever heard of Connick Jr. Was him singing Danny Boy in the movie Memphis Bell.. Man can he sing

58 freetoken  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:03:50pm

Btw, several neat archeological bits in the news today, e.g.:

Ancient settlement unearthed near Grand Junction

Archaeologists say they've discovered evidence of people living in Colorado's Grand Valley 8,000 years ago.

[...]

59 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:03:58pm

re: #50 b_sharp

I know.
My comment was a reference to my comment.

Talking to yourself again

I never talk to myself

I do, however, have long conversations with the voices in my head, which is very bazaar because non of them speak English, and I don't speak anything but!

60 Alexzander  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:05:33pm

On the subject of the cookie monster video:
I think I had this acid trip once.

61 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:05:40pm

re: #57 HoosierHoops

The first time I ever heard of Connick Jr. Was him singing Danny Boy in the movie Memphis Bell.. Man can he sing

When he 1st hit the scene "they" tried to push him as the next Sinatra

While not as widely as popular as Sinatra was, the comparison is apt in that Connicks style and cross over appeal (music and movies) matches Sinatra

62 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:05:59pm

re: #60 Alexzander

On the subject of the cookie monster video:
I think I had this acid trip once.

So bad you can't even show it!?!?

63 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:10:49pm

re: #57 HoosierHoops

The first time I ever heard of Connick Jr. Was him singing Danny Boy in the movie Memphis Bell.. Man can he sing

he puts up one hell of a rousing show...at least when I saw him promoting 'She'....his band was flat out awesome, his guitar player blew me away...Jonathan Dubose

64 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:13:42pm

It really is too bad that we can't base the US economic recovery on viral videos and mashups.

65 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:15:10pm

re: #58 freetoken

Btw, several neat archeological bits in the news today, e.g.:

Ancient settlement unearthed near Grand Junction

Archeologists...well paid garbagemen.

(My uncle is an archeologist. I joke lovingly.)

66 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:17:54pm

Harry again
She

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67 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:24:09pm

re: #55 albusteve

crooner...
Harry Connick Jr
cool vid

[Video]

Do you like Mel Tormé? I love him.

68 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:27:24pm

re: #67 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Do you like Mel Tormé? I love him.

I'm a Tony Bennett guy...he sings and plays with anybody and loves the younger gen....Tony is a national treasure, the last of his breed I think

69 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:27:31pm

re: #2 Idle Drifter

confound your ponies

70 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:29:32pm

re: #68 albusteve

I'm a Tony Bennett guy...he sings and plays with anybody and loves the younger gen...Tony is a national treasure, the last of his breed I think

Mrs. Satty has every one of his CDS

71 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:30:55pm

Mel
cookin

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72 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:31:56pm

re: #55 albusteve

crooner...
Harry Connick Jr
cool vid

[Video]

He's a good fellow and an excellent singer. Very devoted to his hometown of New Orleans.

74 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:36:12pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

He's a good fellow and an excellent singer. Very devoted to his hometown of New Orleans.

yeah, he's deep in...
funny how the natives love that town, and so do I...
one trip to jazz fest and your either hooked or can't wait to get out of town...I was hooked forever, absolutely love NOLA

75 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:38:58pm

re: #73 Lidane

John Bolton: Spend More On Weapons, Cut Veterans Health Care and Retirement

Cutting spending wouldn't mean cuts in care standards. There's likely waste that can be removed. But I wouldn't make the VA a significant savings target. The pension system, though, should be looked at with an eye towards changing to a 401(k).

76 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:39:30pm

re: #74 albusteve

yeah, he's deep in...
funny how the natives love that town, and so do I...
one trip to jazz fest and your either hooked or can't wait to get out of town...I was hooked forever, absolutely love NOLA

CALLING REINE!!!

77 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:43:04pm

re: #76 sattv4u2

she knows where to find me...terrific person, I'd drink with her any day...and mind my manners

78 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:43:24pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

Cutting spending wouldn't mean cuts in care standards. There's likely waste that can be removed. But I wouldn't make the VA a significant savings target. The pension system, though, should be looked at with an eye towards changing to a 401(k).

Cuts to the VA and pension are just the tip of the iceberg. With draw downs in Iraq and Afghanistan, our mission right now should be towards finding out what works, what doesn't, and getting rid of the latter. And first on the list should be Cold War-era weapons that have been hampered or even useless in the time since.

79 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:44:29pm

re: #77 albusteve

she knows where to find me...terrific person, I'd drink with her any day...and mind my manners

And if you didn't, she'd yank off your prosthesis and whack you over the head wif it!!

/

80 darthstar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:45:08pm

Okay...that's one ass-kickin' mash-up. Love Tom Waits, and Cookie...who knew they were one and the same?

81 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:46:21pm

re: #78 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Cuts to the VA and pension are just the tip of the iceberg. With draw downs in Iraq and Afghanistan, our mission right now should be towards finding out what works, what doesn't, and getting rid of the latter. And first on the list should be Cold War-era weapons that have been hampered or even useless in the time since.

That will mean replacements for the F-16 as well as continuing a number of vehicle programs. We're going to need to a fair amount of modernization.

82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:46:58pm

re: #74 albusteve

I know you aren't a TV guy, buy you need to watch HBO's show, "Treme". Excellent depiction of post-Katrina NOLA.

83 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:47:08pm

re: #77 albusteve

she knows where to find me...terrific person, I'd drink with her any day...and mind my manners

Train wrote this song about Reine

Youtube Video

BTW..Does Reine has your mailing address? I'd like to send you a CD of my guitar playing...I do a few Clapton songs live and recorded at a nightclub..
84 darthstar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:47:27pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

That will mean replacements for the F-16 as well as continuing a number of vehicle programs. We're going to need to a fair amount of modernization.

Fuck that...just have the generals go down to the pick-n-pull...I'm sure there are plenty of parts for the F-16s lying around.

85 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:48:09pm

re: #79 sattv4u2

And if you didn't, she'd yank off your prosthesis and whack you over the head wif it!!

/

only if I let her...but then I'd deserve it...
when I'm cornered I go for broke

86 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:49:26pm

re: #84 darthstar

Fuck that...just have the generals go down to the pick-n-pull...I'm sure there are plenty of parts for the F-16s lying around.

The F-16 is becoming dated. The fighters China will have in service before the end of the decade will be superior to it. We can't let ourselves get outclassed, as that's a sure way to get into a war we won't win.

87 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:50:15pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

That will mean replacements for the F-16 as well as continuing a number of vehicle programs. We're going to need to a fair amount of modernization.

Replacing the F-16? We could start by ending the money pit that is the F-35, and then running a competition for a low-cost replacement. The Rafale, perhaps, or the F-16I that the Israelis are buying. Same with vehicle programs, considering the number of viable alternatives there are out there.

88 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:51:08pm

re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
btw ,,, one of your FB photos,,,

at a quick glance, ya kinda look like a young Bill Clinton
just sayin'

[Link: www.facebook.com...]

89 darthstar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:51:14pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

The F-16 is becoming dated. The fighters China will have in service before the end of the decade will be superior to it. We can't let ourselves get outclassed, as that's a sure way to get into a war we won't win.

The best way to avoid losing a war is to stay the fuck out of one. Or, to quote Einstein (aka smart fucker): "You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."

90 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:51:25pm

re: #83 HoosierHoops

Train wrote this song about Reine

[Video]
BTW..Does Reine has your mailing address? I'd like to send you a CD of my guitar playing...I do a few Clapton songs live and recorded at a nightclub..

you can have my addy whenever you want...I'm not insecure about that stuff

91 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:51:46pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

The F-16 is becoming dated. The fighters China will have in service before the end of the decade will be superior to it. We can't let ourselves get outclassed, as that's a sure way to get into a war we won't win.

Which fighters are those?

92 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:53:30pm

re: #91 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Which fighters are those?

[Link: blog.ronjuneshop.com...]

93 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:54:54pm

re: #89 darthstar

The best way to avoid losing a war is to stay the fuck out of one. Or, to quote Einstein (aka smart fucker): "You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."

why not, Albert?...seems we do it constantly...
he should stick to the fiddle

94 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:55:26pm

re: #89 darthstar

The best way to avoid losing a war is to stay the fuck out of one. Or, to quote Einstein (aka smart fucker): "You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."

Einstein was wrong about that. Flavius Vegetius Renatus was right:

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Strength is the cardinal matter in deterring enemies.

95 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:55:36pm

re: #92 sattv4u2

[Link: blog.ronjuneshop.com...]

oh NOEZ!
the RED BARON!

96 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:56:21pm

re: #89 darthstar

The best way to avoid losing a war is to stay the fuck out of one. Or, to quote Einstein (aka smart fucker): "You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Einstein was wrong about that. Flavius Vegetius Renatus was right:

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Strength is the cardinal matter in deterring enemies.

Maybe Neville should have read Flavius rather than Albert!
//

97 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:57:48pm

re: #91 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Which fighters are those?

The J-15, for starters. Those will be in service by 2014. The more advanced J-20 won't likely appear till late in the decade, so we've got some time but not much.

98 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:58:12pm

re: #90 albusteve

you can have my addy whenever you want...I'm not insecure about that stuff

Great..I have a CD of me playing in a nightclub with some pretty good players...I also have some of my original stuff recorded...I think you would like my style.. I'm old school that the bus passed by many years ago..But I love to play and write stuff...

99 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:58:24pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Einstein was wrong about that. Flavius Vegetius Renatus was right:

"If you want peace, prepare for war."

Strength is the cardinal matter in deterring enemies.

Which only spurs your enemies to build bigger and better armies, which means you either have to build an even bigger and/or better army or lose your superiority. Spurring them to build bigger/better, causing you to build bigger/better, etc, etc.

The Soviets found this out the hard way. Shall we join them in the dust bin of history?

100 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:59:22pm

re: #96 sattv4u2

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Maybe Neville should have read Flavius rather than Albert!
//

speaking of Neville

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101 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:00:16pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

The J-15, for starters. Those will be in service by 2014. The more advanced J-20 won't likely appear till late in the decade, so we've got some time but not much.

J-15 is a Su-33 knock-off, while the J-20 is a Su-27 with a new skin. I agree, they'll be a threat, but only because the Chinese will be able to knock off hundreds of them, while we're slowly going bankrupt trying to put a new generation of hanger queens into service.

102 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:00:46pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Flavius Vegetius Renatus

Was he related to Fatius Bastard Vegetarian??

103 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:02:12pm

re: #99 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Which only spurs your enemies to build bigger and better armies, which means you either have to build an even bigger and/or better army or lose your superiority. Spurring them to build bigger/better, causing you to build bigger/better, etc, etc.

The Soviets found this out the hard way. Shall we join them in the dust bin of history?

bah...rubbish
it's the size of the fight in the dog...and we do damned good....we'd clobber either China or the new Russia in a stand up fight...a massacre

104 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:04:26pm

re: #103 albusteve

bah...rubbish
it's the size of the fight in the dog...and we do damned good...we'd clobber either China or the new Russia in a stand up fight...a massacre

The not the size of the dog in the fight.. It's the fight in the dog

105 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:04:37pm

re: #71 albusteve

Mel
cookin

[Video]

Saw him for July 4, 1995, Boston. Some SERIOUS pipes.

106 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:04:49pm

re: #103 albusteve

bah...rubbish
it's the size of the fight in the dog...and we do damned good...we'd clobber either China or the new Russia in a stand up fight...a massacre

We had a bitch of a time against their proxy states during the last century. If we ever end up in a shooting war with either, the next two generations afterward will glow in the dark.

107 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:05:41pm

Look at these aholes:

Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006.

That's just swell.

108 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:06:58pm

re: #106 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

We had a bitch of a time against their proxy states during the last century. If we ever end up in a shooting war with either, the next two generations afterward will glow in the dark.

just another empty prediction...you have no way of knowing that

109 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:07:36pm

re: #75 Dark_Falcon

Cutting spending wouldn't mean cuts in care standards. There's likely waste that can be removed. But I wouldn't make the VA a significant savings target. The pension system, though, should be looked at with an eye towards changing to a 401(k).

Sorry DF, but all three of those things are bad ideas. There is too much being wasted in procurement, the VA is mindbogglingly underfunded and has been for decades. As for 401(k) plans, well, they're a wonderful way to reward Wall Street. I just haven't figured out _why_ we should reward them.

110 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:07:58pm

re: #103 albusteve

bah...rubbish
it's the size of the fight in the dog...and we do damned good...we'd clobber either China or the new Russia in a stand up fight...a massacre

No, we wouldn't. China has put an emphasis on pilot training that the Soviet Union never did. They'd have better pilots than any we've faced since WWII.

China has seemed to have learned the lessons about having properly trained people. In future conflicts, China will make no use of human waves; It'll be moderate numbers of skilled professionals.

111 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:09:17pm

re: #108 albusteve

just another empty prediction...you have no way of knowing that

What, are you expecting to pull a Red Dawn? Lead a glorious resistance against the invaders?

112 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:09:35pm

re: #101 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

J-15 is a Su-33 knock-off, while the J-20 is a Su-27 with a new skin. I agree, they'll be a threat, but only because the Chinese will be able to knock off hundreds of them, while we're slowly going bankrupt trying to put a new generation of hanger queens into service.

We need to make a major to ensure that new fighters can be properly maintained with acceptable ease. I think that can be done, if we make it a concern.

BBL

113 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:10:30pm

re: #111 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What, are you expecting to pull a Red Dawn? Lead a glorious resistance against the invaders?

what makes you say that?...I didn't mention invasion

114 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:11:10pm

re: #107 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Look at these aholes:

Bachmann Staffer Arrested for Terrorism in Uganda in 2006.

That's just swell.

Interesting. Was he a private weapons dealer, maybe CIA? The article oaints him as a Christian terrorist, maybe but I sort of doubt it.

115 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:12:37pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

The F-16 is becoming dated. The fighters China will have in service before the end of the decade will be superior to it. We can't let ourselves get outclassed, as that's a sure way to get into a war we won't win.

Do you really believe that anything the Chinese will be able to field in quantity will be significantly better than the F16? I don't. The J10? The FC1?

What the Air Force needs to do is what the Army did after the XMBT-70 disaster when they came up with the faster, cheaper & better M1 as a result.

116 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:13:02pm

re: #110 Dark_Falcon

No, we wouldn't. China has put an emphasis on pilot training that the Soviet Union never did. They'd have better pilots than any we've faced since WWII.

China has seemed to have learned the lessons about having properly trained people. In future conflicts, China will make no use of human waves; It'll be moderate numbers of skilled professionals.

we can project a phenomenal amt of power, a massive blue water navy that is nearly invincable...I'm talking right now

117 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:13:30pm

re: #113 albusteve

what makes you say that?...I didn't mention invasion

What is it you expect will happen? Because if you believe that we'd hold off either power in a stand-up fight, then I have a book recommendation for you, Red Storm Rising.

118 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:13:52pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

The J-15, for starters. Those will be in service by 2014. The more advanced J-20 won't likely appear till late in the decade, so we've got some time but not much.

Neither will ever see series production. The Chinese can't afford them any more than we can afford the F35.

119 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:15:13pm

re: #117 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

What is it you expect will happen? Because if you believe that we'd hold off either power in a stand-up fight, then I have a book recommendation for you, Red Storm Rising.

I expect we'd kick the Chinese ass all the way back to Peking...and I read the book...it's fiction

120 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:16:07pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

We need to make a major to ensure that new fighters can be properly maintained with acceptable ease. I think that can be done, if we make it a concern.

BBL

Want to really make it a concern, then start from scratch. Junk the F-35 and start a competition for a new fighter that can take "lessons learned" and apply them to a cheaper design.

121 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:21:27pm

re: #120 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Want to really make it a concern, then start from scratch. Junk the F-35 and start a competition for a new fighter that can take "lessons learned" and apply them to a cheaper design.

somewhere along the way you have to consider that production costs drop significantly when you build them by the hundreds...for what that's worth...I'm hardly an expert but I'd dump the 35 and stick with absolute air superiority with the 22...turn around and build a brand new Warthog...easily the most lethal plane in the bunch...down and dirty...and see if it's possible to land them on a carrier...if not, build a carrier where they can

122 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:23:17pm

re: #121 albusteve

somewhere along the way you have to consider that production costs drop significantly when you build them by the hundreds...for what that's worth...I'm hardly an expert but I'd dump the 35 and stick with absolute air superiority with the 22...turn around and build a brand new Warthog...easily the most lethal plane in the bunch...down and dirty...and see if it's possible to land them on a carrier...if not, build a carrier where they can

maybe not

123 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:23:27pm

It's like, how much more douchebag could this be? and the answer is none. None more douchebag:

Authorities in Oklahoma are on the hunt for a man who didn't show up for a court appearance Monday for his rape trial, and who has ties to the Oathkeeper movement and believes his arrest was part of a government conspiracy.

Charles Dyer, a former U.S. Marine who served in Iraq, was arrested and charged in January of 2010 on two separate counts -- one charge of possessing an unregistered grenade launcher that was registered as stolen from a military base in California, and one charge of raping a minor. In April, a judge declared a mistrial after the jury couldn't reach a decision.

124 jamesfirecat  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:25:09pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

It's like, how much more douchebag could this be? and the answer is none. None more douchebag:

What the f***?

Who lets a guy who is hording a grenade launcher out on bail?

125 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:25:47pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

I think I remember that douche. Didn't they search the house for weapons and then found out about the child rape?

126 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:26:03pm

re: #124 jamesfirecat

What the f***?

Who lets a guy who is hording a grenade launcher out on bail?

Why do you hate the Second Amendment???
/

127 laZardo  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:26:23pm

You know who's considering the PAK FA?

South Korea.

128 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:27:42pm

re: #121 albusteve

somewhere along the way you have to consider that production costs drop significantly when you build them by the hundreds...for what that's worth...I'm hardly an expert but I'd dump the 35 and stick with absolute air superiority with the 22...turn around and build a brand new Warthog...easily the most lethal plane in the bunch...down and dirty...and see if it's possible to land them on a carrier...if not, build a carrier where they can

We'd be better off building these, as it's taking a proven airframe and incorporating stealth features into it. Same thing with the Super Hornet, which the Navy's using to replace its F-14s. The F-22's a hanger queen, has been since we put the first one into service.

And it's not a matter of the carrier, but of the plane. You'd have to rebuild the A-10 for carrier service, which might cost as much as building a whole new aircraft from scratch.

129 zora  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:28:15pm

re: #125 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think I remember that douche. Didn't they search the house for weapons and then found out about the child rape?

Former Marine With Ties To Right-Wing Movements Charged With Child Rape, Possessing Grenade Launcher

Charles Dyer, a former U.S. Marine who served in Iraq, was arrested January 12 in Oklahoma on the rape charge. A child had told sexual-abuse experts about a January 2nd incident at Dyer's home.

But while sheriff's deputies were at Dyer's home making the arrest, according to court documents, they found several firearms and what they believed to be a Colt M-203, 40-millimeter grenade launcher.

other way around. they went to arrest for the child rape and found his arsenal.

130 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:28:39pm

re: #126 Varek Raith

Why do you hate the Second Amendment???
/

my tank is back...
Shelby Abrahms 500
white with a wide blue stripe from front to rear

131 zora  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:28:51pm

re: #129 zora

the link.

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

132 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:29:40pm

re: #131 zora

Thanks. I knew I knew the story, albeit, backward.

133 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:29:49pm

re: #127 laZardo

You know who's considering the PAK FA?

South Korea.

Makes sense. F-22's not up for export anytime soon, while the F-35 is a less capable aircraft. And it's likely to be cheaper than both.

134 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:31:17pm

re: #129 zora

Former Marine With Ties To Right-Wing Movements Charged With Child Rape, Possessing Grenade Launcher

other way around. they went to arrest for the child rape and found his arsenal.

Asshole to the nth degree.

135 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:32:02pm

re: #124 jamesfirecat

What the f***?

Who lets a guy who is hording a grenade launcher out on bail?

It's the picture that kills me. That's some epic level wtf right there. Also, of course, the child rape, which is not at all amusing. Obviously he's not the mascot the Oathkeepers were looking for.

136 laZardo  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:32:03pm

re: #133 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Makes sense. F-22's not up for export anytime soon, while the F-35 is a less capable aircraft. And it's likely to be cheaper than both.

That'd be so humorously ironic if the North decides to invade and they found themselves up against the PAK FA though. XD

138 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:33:00pm

re: #136 laZardo

That'd be so humorously ironic if the North decides to invade and they found themselves up against the PAK FA though. XD

I'm sure the Russians will give them some MiG 21s or something to compensate.
XD

139 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:33:39pm

re: #136 laZardo

That'd be so humorously ironic if the North decides to invade and they found themselves up against the PAK FA though. XD

The route the North's taking, they'll be lucky if they have pilots capable of flying before too long. Most will probably defect if you promise them a year's supply of food.

140 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:36:15pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

It's the picture that kills me. That's some epic level wtf right there. Also, of course, the child rape, which is not at all amusing. Obviously he's not the mascot the Oathkeepers were looking for.

Aw geeze. Nightmares.

141 bratwurst  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:36:48pm

Have the tea partiers attempted to change the date of birth for Elvis Presley on Wikipedia in the aftermath of Michele Bachmann's gaffe?

142 Varek Raith  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:37:55pm

Poll: Tea Party Less Popular Than Muslims, Atheists, 21 Other Groups

143 laZardo  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:38:36pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

More like epic level wannabe.

144 laZardo  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:39:18pm

Gonna go do stuff. BBL

145 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:39:18pm

re: #142 Varek Raith

Poll: Tea Party Less Popular Than Muslims, Atheists, 21 Other Groups

I figure, before too long, they're gonna give up arguing against the polls and start coming up with excuses for why they're so unpopular. I'm going right now with "We're hated because our solutions are bitter medicine to swallow!"

146 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:39:26pm

Yahoo headline today: the tea party is less popular than Muslims or Athiests.

147 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:40:18pm

re: #142 Varek Raith

Poll: Tea Party Less Popular Than Muslims, Atheists, 21 Other Groups

Omg jinx!!!!!!

148 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:41:11pm

re: #115 wlewisiii

Do you really believe that anything the Chinese will be able to field in quantity will be significantly better than the F16? I don't. The J10? The FC1?

What the Air Force needs to do is what the Army did after the XMBT-70 disaster when they came up with the faster, cheaper & better M1 as a result.

Well we've got this:

[Link: www.boeing.com...]

Between airframe, engines, flexibility, electronics, missile options, and tactics, I'd put this little monster up against anything the Heathen Chinee are likely to field for twenty years.

Now, the Rooskies are a different story:

[Link: www.avweb.com...]

Clever bastards.

149 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:41:53pm

bbiab

150 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:42:38pm

re: #145 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I figure, before too long, they're gonna give up arguing against the polls and start coming up with excuses for why they're so unpopular. I'm going right now with "We're hated because our solutions are bitter medicine to swallow!"

No no it's all about the lamestream media.

Too bad their disconnect that they are OWNED by said media (fix news)

151 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:44:41pm

re: #142 Varek Raith

Poll: Tea Party Less Popular Than Muslims, Atheists, 21 Other Groups

Furries? Please say they polled the TP against furries.

152 makeitstop  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:44:56pm

re: #130 albusteve

my tank is back...
Shelby Abrahms 500
white with a wide blue stripe from front to rear

Shelby colors? :)

153 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:46:21pm

re: #148 austin_blue

Well we've got this:

[Link: www.boeing.com...]

Between airframe, engines, flexibility, electronics, missile options, and tactics, I'd put this little monster up against anything the Heathen Chinee are likely to field for twenty years.

Now, the Rooskies are a different story:

[Link: www.avweb.com...]

Clever bastards.

True enough. It is still weird to see the Boeing name on them, though, how many mergers later...

As an aside, how hard do you think Boeing pushed to get the C-17 designation for their cargo plane? Just thinking of the historical humor.

154 zora  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:47:19pm

Perry and Romney split on global warming

from huntsman's strategist:

“We’re not going to win a national election if we become the anti-science party,” John Weaver, Huntsman’s chief strategist, said in an interview Wednesday. “The American people are looking for someone who lives in reality and is a truth teller because that’s the only way that the significant problems this country faces can be solved. It appears that the only science that Mitt Romney believes in is the science of polling, and that science clearly was not a mandatory course for Governor Perry.”

155 zora  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:47:40pm

re: #154 zora

the link

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

156 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:47:50pm

Shit. I missed the Perry anti-AGW thread. Anti-science, pro-literal Bible, pro complete anti-regulation, anti-any safety net, and pro-creationist. And he's going to win the Republican nod. By the time he's done with Mitt, Romney will *be* the dog food he refuses to eat.

157 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:48:41pm

re: #154 zora

Perry and Romney split on global warming

from huntsman's strategist:

oh SNAP!

158 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:50:14pm

re: #153 wlewisiii

True enough. It is still weird to see the Boeing name on them, though, how many mergers later...

As an aside, how hard do you think Boeing pushed to get the C-17 designation for their cargo plane? Just thinking of the historical humor.

What? With the echo of the B-17 ringing? Best bomber/transport EVAH!

159 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 4:58:32pm

Just read that Rushbo dissed Sister Sarah. Uh oh.

(he's shilling for Christie)

Also the racist McCain wrote her off.

She will not handle this well. Batten the hatches!!!

Apparently her uneducated attack against daily caller journo vis a vis Fox Nation became a tipping point.

Popcorn

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:00:21pm

re: #158 austin_blue

What? With the echo of the B-17 ringing? Best bomber/transport EVAH!

Funny. I just looked it up. The C-17 contract was awarded to McDonnell-Douglas and didn't become a Boeing product till they merged. Good aircraft though.

I can see ordering a huge pile of Super Hornets in place of the F15 & F35. I'd rather see more F-16 production to keep those numbers up for the foreseeable future.

161 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:10:54pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

Just read that Rushbo dissed Sister Sarah. Uh oh.

(he's shilling for Christie)

Also the racist McCain wrote her off.

She will not handle this well. Batten the hatches!!!

Apparently her uneducated attack against daily caller journo vis a vis Fox Nation became a tipping point.

Popcorn

It's so amusing when they eat their own, isn't it?

162 Bubblehead II  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:11:54pm

Night Liards.

163 zora  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:12:49pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

Conservative Journos Defend Reporter Against Palin’s ‘Shi–y’ Behavior on the Trail

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

164 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:15:19pm

re: #163 zora


Conservative Journos Defend Reporter Against Palin’s ‘Shi–y’ Behavior on the Trail

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

Oh yeah!

165 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:19:01pm

re: #163 zora


Conservative Journos Defend Reporter Against Palin’s ‘Shi–y’ Behavior on the Trail

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

The biggest crack in this is that her employer fox nation threw her under the bus, and of course smart Sarah didn't get it.

166 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:19:12pm

i think ignatz cat really expected me to accept his offering of a dead mole and take it inside and eat it

167 Wozza Matter?  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:22:31pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

The biggest crack in this is that her employer fox nation threw her under the bus, and of course smart Sarah didn't get it.

I don't think I've ever seen a "Fox Nation" headline that bore any resemblance to what was actually contained in the story............ Sarah obviously believes everything they say. Dumb *!$%.

168 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:23:34pm

re: #163 zora


Conservative Journos Defend Reporter Against Palin’s ‘Shi–y’ Behavior on the Trail

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

Thanks, the whole hullabaloo flew under my radar. Good explanation there, but the article got one thing way wrong:

Slate‘s Dave Weigel, a progressive reporter,

Way wrong.

169 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:25:29pm

Gov. Perry went to Texas A&M...
As far as sports..He was a yeller.. You know a guy in College that was a guy Cheerleader..Huge leader cread...
At least Obama played swing and didn't cheer on the sidelines...LOL
I'm telling the truth but still having fun..Remember 2 years ago I covered a SI story about Obama's HS Basketball coach..Boy His coach said he shot too much..But it was a great story back in the day

170 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:26:49pm

David Letterman, Infidel!!!

171 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:27:31pm

re: #166 engineer dog

i think ignatz cat really expected me to accept his offering of a dead mole and take it inside and eat it

You feed him, he returns the favor!

Wait, a *mole*?!?!?! He's an excavator?

172 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:39:05pm

re: #68 albusteve

I'm a Tony Bennett guy...he sings and plays with anybody and loves the younger gen...Tony is a national treasure, the last of his breed I think

Was on my phone, so I didn't get a chance to add: I luvvvv me some Tony. Gorgeous man, gorgeous voice.

Youtube Video
173 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:39:47pm

re: #169 HoosierHoops

Gov. Perry went to Texas A&M...
As far as sports..He was a yeller.. You know a guy in College that was a guy Cheerleader..Huge leader cread...
At least Obama played swing and didn't cheer on the sidelines...LOL
I'm telling the truth but still having fun..Remember 2 years ago I covered a SI story about Obama's HS Basketball coach..Boy His coach said he shot too much..But it was a great story back in the day

What is just so bizarre I'd that perry and bush were cheerleaders. Cannot relate

174 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:41:08pm

re: #163 zora


Conservative Journos Defend Reporter Against Palin’s ‘Shi–y’ Behavior on the Trail

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

Todd is such a nasty greaseball. Disgusting. /toomuchjoico

175 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:41:25pm

Just posted another page on News Corp. As I said in my subtitle: The plot thickens. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

176 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:42:35pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

Just read that Rushbo dissed Sister Sarah. Uh oh.

(he's shilling for Christie)

Also the racist McCain wrote her off.

She will not handle this well. Batten the hatches!!!

Apparently her uneducated attack against daily caller journo vis a vis Fox Nation became a tipping point.

Popcorn

Lol did he finally find whatever consistency he ever had and label her a feminazi?

177 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:45:47pm

re: #168 wrenchwench

Thanks, the whole hullabaloo flew under my radar. Good explanation there, but the article got one thing way wrong:

Way wrong.

NOT SO! SARAH SAID HE WAS ON THE JOURNOLIST! LIBERAL LAMESTREAM MEDIA! POOR US CONSERVATIVES, IT'S NOT FAIR BLAHHHH!

178 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:47:47pm

I was given a cucumber today. Gonna go eat it.

Later, lizards.

179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:54:41pm

Just for fun...

Top Ten Cheapest Celebrity Tippers
1.) Tiger Woods: Claims he never carries cash.
2.) Madonna: Once left an $18 tip on a $400 bill.
3.) Barbra Streisand: Famous for leaving $10 tip for $457 tab.
4.) LeBron James: Didn't ever get tipping talents, left $10 on an $800 bill.
5.) Jeremy Piven: Left signed Entourage DVD as tip.
6.) Usher: Once left his autograph as a tip.
7.) Mariah Carey: Famous for diva demands and no tips!
8.) Sean Penn: Left $0 on a $450 tab in New Orleans.
9.) Bill Cosby: Once left a $3 tip on a $350 bill
10.) Rachael Ray: Promotes less than 20 percent tip on her show.

Honestly? I'd expect Barbra, Sean, and Bill to be in the top ten list.

180 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:56:05pm

rain splattering through my widows and doors...patios are drenched...
breezy and cool...life is good!

181 Political Atheist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 5:59:38pm

Watching Anderson Cooper doing tonights Ridiculist is hilarious tonight.

182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:00:44pm

re: #180 albusteve

Was 63 degrees on my deck this morning. The greatest "it's almost not summer anymore" sensation I've ever had.

183 garhighway  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:01:17pm

The Maltese Falcon is on cable.

What a great movie.

184 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:01:26pm

re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just for fun...

Honestly? I'd expect Barbra, Sean, and Bill to be in the top ten list.

These folks are why you "reserve the right to add 20% gratuity to all tabs". Printed big on the menus & front door.

185 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:04:17pm

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was 63 degrees on my deck this morning. The greatest "it's almost not summer anymore" sensation I've ever had.

relief from extended heat is a buzz...out here the monsoon is a gift

186 Political Atheist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:04:17pm

re: #183 garhighway

I've been watching lots of Bogart lately. Great stuff. Started with Casablanca of course. Home study film school.

187 compound idaho  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:05:58pm

re: #184 wlewisiii

I believe the IRS requires waitresses to pay taxes based on receipts, not on what is actually received.

188 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:06:02pm

re: #173 Stanley Sea

What is just so bizarre I'd that perry and bush were cheerleaders. Cannot relate

Well you get to stand on the sidelines and yell:

"Fight, farmers, fight!
Fight farmers, fight!
Fight farmers, fight!
Farmers, farmers, fight!
Woop!"

The 'woop' is critical.

189 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:06:10pm

re: #185 albusteve

relief from extended heat is a buzz...out here the monsoon is a gift

It is hot and dry here..Over a 100 today..But the temps are going hotter..105+ on it's way this week..

190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:06:20pm

re: #186 Rightwingconspirator

Casablanca was always my favorite Bogart. Until last year when I watched Treasure of the Sierra Madre for the first time.

191 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:08:08pm

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Casablanca was always my favorite Bogart. Until last year when I watched Treasure of the Sierra Madre for the first time.

I've watched the African Queen about a thousand times.. It's like Forrest Gump.. You can keep watching it over and over

192 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:08:08pm

re: #189 HoosierHoops

It is hot and dry here..Over a 100 today..But the temps are going hotter..105+ on it's way this week..

two words
AC

193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:08:23pm

re: #187 compound idaho

I believe the IRS requires waitresses to pay taxes based on receipts, not on what is actually received.

When you tip a waiter 5% you're screwing them more than once.

Unless they suck. Then, bets are off.

194 garhighway  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:08:26pm

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Casablanca was always my favorite Bogart. Until last year when I watched Treasure of the Sierra Madre for the first time.

I had forgotten how great the dialogue was in this film.

But Bogie's almost always great.

195 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:08:39pm

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Casablanca was always my favorite Bogart. Until last year when I watched Treasure of the Sierra Madre for the first time.

we don need no stinking badges!

196 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:09:21pm

re: #186 Rightwingconspirator
I still like Sabrina.

197 Political Atheist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:10:20pm

re: #191 HoosierHoops
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Something about his movies, all the interior scenes are exactly right. Sets, lighting, subtle camera moves. Textbook B&W film making.

198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:11:43pm

re: #194 garhighway

I had forgotten how great the dialogue was in this film.

But Bogie's almost always great.

Bogie's descent into madness in Treasure of the Sierra Madre is an amazing work.

199 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:13:03pm

re: #188 austin_blue

Well you get to stand on the sidelines and yell:

"Fight, farmers, fight!
Fight farmers, fight!
Fight farmers, fight!
Farmers, farmers, fight!
Woop!"

The 'woop' is critical.

they really used to know how to do it in the old days...

"Ripsaw, ripsaw, ripsaw, bang!
We belong to the Gene Debs' gang.
Are we Socialists? I should smile!
We're Revolutionists all the while."

200 compound idaho  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:13:14pm

re: #191 HoosierHoops

I've watched the African Queen about a thousand times.. It's like Forrest Gump.. You can keep watching it over and over

My 17 yr old son does a perfect Forrest Gump imitation. A little disturbing to say the least.

201 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:13:21pm

re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bogie's descent into madness in Treasure of the Sierra Madre is an amazing work.

John Huston was the true artist in that flick...imo

202 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:14:10pm

re: #192 albusteve

two words
AC

I lost air for 2 days last month..I run my A/C pretty cool for the dog when I work.. I don't care..He lives in comfort..
I paid my Electric bill yesterday..It was only 135 bucks...Energy in Oklahoma is pretty cheap

203 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:14:19pm

re: #201 albusteve

I accept that premise.

204 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:14:50pm

re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just for fun...

Honestly? I'd expect Barbra, Sean, and Bill to be in the top ten list.

Bastards! After the '86 oil crash, I got laid of and cooked, waited tables, played bouncer, and was a bartender in New Orleans for 7 months until I hooked up with another company where I went international as a wellhead geologist (a significant upgrade from my previous position).

Bad tippers need to be shot. Twenty percent is the minimum for reasonable service. Up to 25% for superior service. Those employees are making around $3.75 as base pay, depending on the state.

205 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:15:35pm

re: #189 HoosierHoops

It is hot and dry here..Over a 100 today..But the temps are going hotter..105+ on it's way this week..

And no rain...

206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:16:46pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

I've been wondering how the electric bills would hit y'all.

re: #199 engineer dog

they really used to know how to do it in the old days...

"Ripsaw, ripsaw, ripsaw, bang!
We belong to the Gene Debs' gang.
Are we Socialists? I should smile!
We're Revolutionists all the while."

Ratshit, Batshit!Dirty old twat!
Sixty-nine assholes tied in a knot!
Hooray Lizardshit! Fuck!
-George Carlin

207 compound idaho  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:17:22pm

re: #204 austin_blue

Bastards! After the '86 oil crash, I got laid of and cooked, waited tables, played bouncer, and was a bartender in New Orleans for 7 months until I hooked up with another company where I went international as a wellhead geologist (a significant upgrade from my previous position).

Bad tippers need to be shot. Twenty percent is the minimum for reasonable service. Up to 25% for superior service. Those employees are making around $3.75 as base pay, depending on the state.

Worked oilfield myself back in the mid-80's. Reminds me of a joke.

How do you call your local geologist? .......Hey waiter!

208 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:17:37pm

Who knew that the cookie monster was not only an atheist but also an anarchist?

Another lynch pin of my formative years destroyed in seconds, what is left to believe in about this country now?

///

209 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:18:00pm

re: #186 Rightwingconspirator

I've been watching lots of Bogart lately. Great stuff. Started with Casablanca of course. Home study film school.

Be sure to include Key Largo in there.

210 Kragar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:18:48pm

So what I miss?

211 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:19:01pm

re: #209 wlewisiii

Be sure to include Key Largo in there.

and the Big Sleep
good stuff

212 Kragar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:19:12pm

re: #208 ausador

Who knew that the cookie monster was not only an atheist but also an anarchist?

Another lynch pin of my formative years destroyed in seconds, what is left to believe in about this country now?

///

Beer and porn.

213 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:19:45pm

re: #210 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So what I miss?

your ex wife?

214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:20:41pm

re: #204 austin_blue

Sorry... but I'd expect the frickin' super-libs to be generous to working class folks. That's so fuckin' hypocritical.

I guess just the knowledge that they've been able to serve such esteemed.... assholes.

Tom Cruise dropped five grand in a jar at a Dairy Queen in Lexington, VA... they were trying to raise money to help a girl with cancer, IIRC.

215 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:21:10pm

WestWingReport West Wing Report

Secret Service agent advancing President's Midwest trip busted on suspicion of DUI. Incident occurred two days before POTUS arrival
53 seconds ago

216 austin_blue  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:21:25pm

re: #196 PhillyPretzel

I still like Sabrina.

That is *so* gay....

Oh, wait, he was great in that.

217 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:23:00pm

re: #210 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So what I miss?

The sun rose, then it set, the sprinklers came on, and then it rained anyway.

/

218 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:23:05pm

re: #216 austin_blue
And Harrison Ford was good in the remake.

219 engineer cat  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:23:11pm

"i hope they don't hang you, precious, by that sweet neck"

love those classics

220 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:23:42pm

re: #199 engineer dog

they really used to know how to do it in the old days...

"Ripsaw, ripsaw, ripsaw, bang!
We belong to the Gene Debs' gang.
Are we Socialists? I should smile!
We're Revolutionists all the while."

E to the x, dy dx,
E to the y, dy,
Tangent, secant, cosine, sine,
3.14159,
Square root, cube root, log of e,
Fortran, Fortran, L I T!

221 Political Atheist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:24:26pm

re: #209 wlewisiii

Be sure to include Key Largo in there.

I've never seen that. Might be the next one I get.

222 Kragar  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:24:40pm

re: #213 albusteve

your ex wife?

Only married the one time.

223 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:25:00pm

I have to post this, since it's too sick not to mention:

'It's entirely inappropriate': Fashion industry outraged after French label launches lingerie for girls as young as FOUR

In a move that has shocked fashion onlookers, scantily-clad young girls wearing make-up and sporting voluminous up-dos are promoting a new range of lingerie that is targetted at girls as young as four years old.

Combining lingerie and lounge wear to form 'loungerie,' the Jours Après Lunes line for four to 12-year-olds features a range of panties, bras, camisoles and T-shirts with lace edges, ribboned bow detailing and nautical stripes.

The shots feature young girls in poses and styling that seem far too premature for their ages.

Wearing striped bras and panties, they play with make-up and jewellery, strings of pearls wrapped around their small frames.

Most of the photos are too risque to feature on MailOnline, the bare legs and stomachs of the girls deeming them inappropriate for publication.

You don't need to be a SoCon to find this wrong.

224 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:25:23pm

re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry... but I'd expect the frickin' super-libs to be generous to working class folks. That's so fuckin' hypocritical.

I guess just the knowledge that they've been able to serve such esteemed... assholes.

Tom Cruise dropped five grand in a jar at a Dairy Queen in Lexington, VA... they were trying to raise money to help a girl with cancer, IIRC.

I always leave a minimum of 15% unless the service is incredibly bad. If the service is very good I leave from 20% to 25%.

I'm a lib-lib.

225 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:26:12pm

re: #222 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Only married the one time.

good for you...
your kids will dig it someday

226 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:26:37pm

re: #220 Alouette

E to the x, dy dx,
E to the y, dy,
Tangent, secant, cosine, sine,
3.14159,
Square root, cube root, log of e,
Fortran, Fortran, L I T!

You scare me.

227 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:27:12pm

re: #217 ausador

The sun rose, then it set, the sprinklers came on, and then it rained anyway.

/

That makes me think of the old Bradbury story "There will come soft rains". Brrr.

228 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:27:20pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

I have to post this, since it's too sick not to mention:

'It's entirely inappropriate': Fashion industry outraged after French label launches lingerie for girls as young as FOUR

You don't need to be a SoCon to find this wrong.

Do they call it the "Chester" line of sleepwear?

229 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:27:23pm

re: #224 b_sharp

I always leave a minimum of 15% unless the service is incredibly bad. If the service is very good I leave from 20% to 25%.

I'm a lib-lib.

I just throw down a bunch of money...figuring a tip is unseemly

230 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:28:36pm

re: #228 ausador

Do they call it the "Chester" line of sleepwear?

I don't get it.

231 b_sharp  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:29:38pm

re: #229 albusteve

I just throw down a bunch of money...figuring a tip is unseemly

It only takes a second to figure a tip, and since I always pay by Interac I just add it to the total.

232 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:30:54pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

I have to post this, since it's too sick not to mention:

'It's entirely inappropriate': Fashion industry outraged after French label launches lingerie for girls as young as FOUR

You don't need to be a SoCon to find this wrong.

Considering they're among the ones caught with rentboys and protecting pedophile priests, social conservative bigots and other culture warriors are the last people on earth with any credibility on the topic.

233 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:31:15pm

re: #231 b_sharp

It only takes a second to figure a tip, and since I always pay by Interac I just add it to the total.

I'm a petty cash guy...I like wads of it

234 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:31:23pm

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

I don't get it.

DF, I'm actually glad to hear that.

Google "Chester the Molester" if you dare. It was a series of sick cartoons in Hustler back in the old days. Really seriously sick.

235 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:32:41pm

re: #232 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Considering they're among the ones caught with rentboys and protecting pedophile priests, social conservative bigots and other culture warriors are the last people on earth with any credibility on the topic.

That's why I said it the way I said it. I wanted to make clear that being concerned over a line of outfits that sexualize children is not being a SoCon.

236 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:33:11pm

re: #184 wlewisiii

These folks are why you "reserve the right to add 20% gratuity to all tabs". Printed big on the menus & front door.

I would hang stuff on our front door (in my old life) you know, the side you see before you leave every day. One was a manifesto by Todd Oldman, a cool designer.

One of his points: Never give a celebrity a discount.

It made me realize that these fame whores, who just by luck get to where they are at, are living a life of never paying. REALLY?

It's really bullshit.

Oh, one of his other points? Always listen to the wife, unless the husband is gay.

237 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:33:19pm

re: #234 wlewisiii

DF, I'm actually glad to hear that.

Google "Chester the Molester" if you dare. It was a series of sick cartoons in Hustler back in the old days. Really seriously sick.

I'd rather not. Thanks for the explanation and warning.

239 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:35:50pm

re: #233 albusteve

I'm a petty cash guy...I like wads of it

I like Amex.. You get one point for every dollar charged...

240 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:36:28pm

re: #238 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fischer: Bachmann Can Run For President Because Her Husband Gave Her Permission

So nice to hear that a woman must have her husband's permission to run for office. I'd like to ship Bryan Fischer to an Afghan prison and throw him in with his ideological soulmates in the Taliban.

241 Political Atheist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:36:39pm

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

I have to post this, since it's too sick not to mention:

'It's entirely inappropriate': Fashion industry outraged after French label launches lingerie for girls as young as FOUR

You don't need to be a SoCon to find this wrong.

Ah yes just the thing for toddlers and tiaras. *spit*

242 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:38:35pm

Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

243 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:39:06pm

re: #239 HoosierHoops

I like Amex.. You get one point for every dollar charged...

for breakfast?...I break out the plastic if I need to, but rarely for food...I like the feel of money in my pocket...I'm a barbarian...Atilla the Steve

244 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:39:23pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

That's why I said it the way I said it. I wanted to make clear that being concerned over a line of outfits that sexualize children is not being a SoCon.

The world's most egregious hypocrites turn out to be socons, especially as regards their alleged concern for "the chilllldrennnnn".

Find any socon frothing at the mouth about "just protecting the chilllldrennnnn"...run away. If pursued, run faster. They're probably toe tappers in airport bathrooms.

[Link: www.tinaandersonfoundation.org...]

245 compound idaho  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:41:01pm

re: #224 b_sharp

I always leave a minimum of 15% unless the service is incredibly bad. If the service is very good I leave from 20% to 25%.

I'm a lib-lib.

I always leave 20%/25%, usually more. If the service was bad, I figure the gal/guy was having a bad day and likely could use the $. What does it matter anyway. Don't forget to tip the motel maid. That job must suck.

246 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:41:13pm

re: #243 albusteve

for breakfast?...I break out the plastic if I need to, but rarely for food...I like the feel of money in my pocket...I'm a barbarian...Atilla the Steve

LOL
I'm going on a blind date this weekend.. I'm paying with a Gold Amex card...The girls love it
*wink*

247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:41:15pm

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

So nice to hear that a woman must have her husband's permission to run for office. I'd like to ship Bryan Fischer to an Afghan prison and throw him in with his ideological soulmates in the Taliban.

Be sure and throw all his followers in their with him, since he is by no means alone.

248 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:42:54pm

re: #244 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

The world's most egregious hypocrites turn out to be socons, especially as regards their alleged concern for "the chillldrennn".

Find any socon frothing at the mouth about "just protecting the chillldrennn"...run away. If pursued, run faster. They're probably toe tappers in airport bathrooms.

[Link: www.tinaandersonfoundation.org...]

Rape as the fault of the girl? What is this, Iran?

249 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:43:44pm

re: #247 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Be sure and throw all his followers in their with him, since he is by no means alone.

Nah. With him gone, some of them might figure out how wrong he is.

250 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:44:01pm

re: #245 compound idaho

I always leave 20%/25%, usually more. If the service was bad, I figure the gal/guy was having a bad day and likely could use the $. What does it matter anyway. Don't forget to tip the motel maid. That job must suck.

I carry one like this in my wallet

Image: Tip-Calculator-Card-SZ129267.jpg

251 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:44:36pm

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

Nah. With him gone, some of them might figure out how wrong he is.

lmao

252 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:45:15pm

re: #204 austin_blue

Bastards! After the '86 oil crash, I got laid of and cooked, waited tables, played bouncer, and was a bartender in New Orleans for 7 months until I hooked up with another company where I went international as a wellhead geologist (a significant upgrade from my previous position).

Bad tippers need to be shot. Twenty percent is the minimum for reasonable service. Up to 25% for superior service. Those employees are making around $3.75 as base pay, depending on the state.

I will *NEVER* understand people who stiff the servers, especially when 95% of the time it's the kitchen that fucked up. Besides, if your dining experience was really that bad, shouldn't you be talking to the manager instead of being a passive-aggressive jerk about it?

I've never worked as a waiter, as I don't have the type of character that is required to perform that task. I have worked in retail, however, and I know that working in a customer-is-always-right atmosphere can make a reasonably normal person into a boiling misanthrope after a while. You come into frequent contact with people who are malevolently stupid, disturbingly crazy, or just plain mean. I imagine it's every bit as bad if not worse with waiters, because waiters have the added perk of dealing with stupid/crazy/mean people who are also incredibly finicky diners.

My dumbshit ex-mother-in-law was a prime example. I used to dread having to go out to eat with them when they came to town (which they seemed to do about every 18 hours). Without fail, she would hassle the shit out of the waiter from the moment we were seated until the moment she left. She didn't do it in a belligerent manner, just endlessly.

Waiter, waiter! These portabellas are different from the ones I used to have back when I lived in Netherpoostink PA thirty-seven years ago, why are these different? Are you sure they're portabellas? And this steak, it sure seems awfully meaty, not like the steaks we have in Nebraska. Why are steaks in Texas not the same as steaks in Nebraska? The water seems more watery here. Can you maybe do something about that? Boy, you don't make the iced tea properly here, do you, not like at home.

FOR THREE HOURS. I always did my best to try to communicate my despair to the server with my eyes, the way a hostage might do. "I am as much a prisoner here as you. I do not share the opinions or disposition of this crazy person, but I am powerless to do anything about it, for I have ruined my life and ended up married to her shrew of a daughter. I hope that you will not spit any loogies into my soup (or worse), but I am sure the Gods would look kindly upon you if you were to do me the kindness of replacing my coffee with a frothing hot mug of hemlock."

253 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:45:57pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Rape as the fault of the girl? What is this, Iran?

Welcome to Fundagelical America. e_e

254 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:46:28pm

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

I don't get it.

Hustler magazine used to publish a full page comic inside the back cover that was called "Chester the Molester," It was about a large beer belly carrying and drooling guy interacting with very young girls in very inappropriate ways. Chester was basically the same meme as "Pedo Bear" only more than 20 years earlier. People still use the term "Chester" to describe a pedophile so it has become part of the language in some areas of the country.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

255 garhighway  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:46:34pm

Nice thing about TCM: they leave the cast credits on the screen long enough so you can read them.

I hate the modern trend of blasting through the credits in 5 seconds and shrinking them into a small corner of the screen.

256 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:46:59pm

re: #254 ausador

Hustler magazine used to publish a full page comic inside the back cover that was called "Chester the Molester," It was about a large beer belly carrying and drooling guy interacting with very young girls in very inappropriate ways. Chester was basically the same meme as "Pedo Bear" only more than 20 years earlier. People still use the term "Chester" to describe a pedophile so it has become part of the language in some areas of the country.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

TRhank you.

257 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:47:24pm

re: #256 Dark_Falcon

Thank you.

PIMF

258 albusteve  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:48:07pm

re: #246 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'm going on a blind date this weekend.. I'm paying with a Gold Amex card...The girls love it
*wink*

nothing like pulling $800 out of your pocket to pay for coffee...and I've never wanted for women...except my last ex

259 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:49:19pm

re: #246 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'm going on a blind date this weekend.. I'm paying with a Gold Amex card...The girls love it
*wink*

Blind date. Well, that's brave. Hats off.

260 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:50:16pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

I lost air for 2 days last month..I run my A/C pretty cool for the dog when I work.. I don't care..He lives in comfort..
I paid my Electric bill yesterday..It was only 135 bucks...Energy in Oklahoma is pretty cheap

That was the biggest shocker of moving out of your parent's house in Florida. Your first electric bill. I think mine, years ago was 300. Actually had to ask the parents for help in paying.

I know I'm behind in this thread, but hope not too far.

261 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:56:39pm

re: #246 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'm going on a blind date this weekend.. I'm paying with a Gold Amex card...The girls love it
*wink*

The reason they call them blind dates is because you'll wish you were.

262 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 6:59:13pm

re: #259 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Blind date. Well, that's brave. Hats off.

You probably missed the story.. I met this woman at the Lodge and got along great with her.. We talked for hours and she has a really thick accent like German or something.. Friday night she came up to me while I was with my buddies and asked me if I would ask he daughter out..
I was stunned..People were laughing..
I said yes..I would be more than happy to take your daughter out to dinner..
People tell me she is a cute blonde..But who knows? I know one thing..She has a great mom that I really enjoyed talking with...
Funny story.. When I told my cleaning lady this story I asked her what fancy restaurant I could take her too..She went blank..She called her Sister..No help..I was so laughing at her..Her best answer was Olive Garden..I love her..But there you go...hahaha

263 TedStriker  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:00:57pm

re: #245 compound idaho

I always leave 20%/25%, usually more. If the service was bad, I figure the gal/guy was having a bad day and likely could use the $. What does it matter anyway. Don't forget to tip the motel maid. That job must suck.

If I go to a restaurant and sit down to eat, I default to 20% (because it's easier to quickly figure in my head) and round to the nearest half-dollar or so.

264 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:01:09pm

re: #238 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Honestly, that doesn't bother me.

My Uncle (mom's sister's husband) was in line to be promoted to General. He had been a Commandant of an AFB.

Mom's sister said, "Uh... no."

Something this big needs the agreement of the couple.

265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:03:26pm

re: #261 negativ

The reason they call them blind dates is because you'll wish you were.

Instead of bein' my deliv'rance
She had a strange resemblance
To a cat named Frankenstein

266 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:03:26pm

re: #262 HoosierHoops

You probably missed the story.. I met this woman at the Lodge and got along great with her.. We talked for hours and she has a really thick accent like German or something.. Friday night she came up to me while I was with my buddies and asked me if I would ask he daughter out..
I was stunned..People were laughing..
I said yes..I would be more than happy to take your daughter out to dinner..
People tell me she is a cute blonde..But who knows? I know one thing..She has a great mom that I really enjoyed talking with...
Funny story.. When I told my cleaning lady this story I asked her what fancy restaurant I could take her too..She went blank..She called her Sister..No help..I was so laughing at her..Her best answer was Olive Garden..I love her..But there you go...hahaha

Ha, sounds like u need 2 ask the mama out.

267 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:08:25pm

re: #266 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Ha, sounds like u need 2 ask the mama out.

She is pretty old...I really like her..We have sat and talked for hours at the Lodge..You know..Just a really friendly nice old lady at the Club..I like her..
I did not know she had a daughter..I did not think she would ask me to take her out in front of my friends...It's pretty funny really..

268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:09:44pm

re: #252 negativ

You need to carry fifty extra dollars with you and slip it to the waiter BEFORE the meal.

They'll love it.

269 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:10:36pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

She is pretty old...I really like her..We have sat and talked for hours at the Lodge..You know..Just a really friendly nice old lady at the Club..I like her..
I did not know she had a daughter..I did not think she would ask me to take her out in front of my friends...It's pretty funny really..

Sounds like a good scene all around. Good luck on the date!

270 Stanghazi  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 7:22:55pm

re: #267 HoosierHoops

She is pretty old...I really like her..We have sat and talked for hours at the Lodge..You know..Just a really friendly nice old lady at the Club..I like her..
I did not know she had a daughter..I did not think she would ask me to take her out in front of my friends...It's pretty funny really..

Have a really good time. You will Hoops.

For your memoirs if nothing else. That's how I'm approaching life!


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