Video: Todd Palin Admits Sarah Bailed As Governor to Make Money

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An interesting admission by Todd Palin, from yesterday’s Rachel Maddow show; he’s arguing with a woman who accuses Sarah Palin of “selling out” and quitting her governorship, and Todd answers her by saying they had “hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt” hanging over their heads, and asks, “What would you do?”

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1 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:23:24pm

AmIdol
duh...
$$$

2 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:23:27pm

She was happy to let people argue that she was "hounded out of office" by a biased liberal media out to investigate her for spurious charges...

3 aagcobb  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:25:39pm

Refreshing to hear the First Dude admit the blindingly obvious.

4 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:27:52pm

She's only hinting at running for President to make money and will only actually run if she thinks it'll make her more money. Of course she'll quit once it's no longer profitable.

5 blueraven  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:30:01pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

She's only hinting at running for President to make money and will only actually run if she thinks it'll make her more money. Of course she'll quit once it's no longer profitable.

Is this a sign? or just Sarah being Sarah?

Image: Palin-Ad.jpg

6 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:30:48pm

Dear Ms. Maddow,

"Mano a mano" does not mean "man to man", so you don't have to change it to "mano a womano", although that was slightly cute. It means "hand to hand", as in hand-to-hand combat.

7 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:31:15pm

It is really interesting to see the difference with the Dem's troubles in the past. The Democrats had trouble with weak, boring and unlikable candidates. They still allowed idiots loons like Al Sharpton and Dennis Kucinich around. They fumbled and floundered but never wasted so much time and effort on an entire crop of unelectable extremists and idiots. The GOP is just completely rudderless.

8 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:32:12pm
9 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:33:28pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

It is really interesting to see the difference with the Dem's troubles in the past. The Democrats had trouble with weak, boring and unlikable candidates. They still allowed idiots loons like Al Sharpton and Dennis Kucinich around. They fumbled and floundered but never wasted so much time and effort on an entire crop of unelectable extremists and idiots. The GOP is just completely rudderless.

and I consider BO rudderless, the great hope and change...
interesting times

10 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:33:49pm

OT, but there is now fighting in Tripoli.

Also, Qaddafi paramilitaries were got sneaking around in Tunisia around Douz, leading to an all-night battle.

Tunisia just recognized the NTC as the legitimate government of Libya.

Qaddafi may not make it to the end of Ramadan.

11 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:33:58pm

re: #5 blueraven

Is this a sign? or just Sarah being Sarah?

Image: Palin-Ad.jpg

I don't know, it's hard to tell with her. She has a new video and is planning some big event sometime soon. She might join the race briefly for publicity or she could just be teasing the winguts into hitting the donate button on her website. The only certainty is that whatever she does it will be stupid.

12 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:34:39pm

re: #10 ProLifeLiberal

OT, but there is now fighting in Tripoli.

Also, Qaddafi paramilitaries were got sneaking around in Tunisia around Douz, leading to an all-night battle.

Tunisia just recognized the NTC as the legitimate government of Libya.

Qaddafi may not make it to the end of Ramadan.

I checked Al Jaz earlier to see if there was any live coverage. Nothin'

13 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:34:58pm

re: #9 albusteve

and I consider BO rudderless, the great hope and change...
interesting times

He should probably get a vasectomy, that way he's covered when he becomes rubberless.

14 zora  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:35:06pm

Sarah Palin's noncampaign campaign-style video 'Iowa Passion'

On Friday, Palin's political action committee SarahPAC released "Iowa Passion" (scroll down to watch), another one of its slick, emotionally charged presentations, this time highlighting the casually dressed Palin gripping and grinning with folks at the Iowa State Fair and talking to Fox News host Sean Hannity.

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

15 ProGunLiberal  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:35:52pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Wikipedia is doing a fantastic job of covering this.

Twitter watching is good too.

16 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:36:19pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I checked Al Jaz earlier to see if there was any live coverage. Nothin'

No play by play? Awww.

17 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:36:27pm

re: #14 zora

Sarah Palin's noncampaign campaign-style video 'Iowa Passion'


[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

it's all show biz now

18 blueraven  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:37:32pm

re: #5 blueraven

Is this a sign? or just Sarah being Sarah?

Image: Palin-Ad.jpg

The full video...sure looks like a campaign ad

19 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:37:41pm

The Palins were in debt. In other words, they wee running their business like a government. And had to quit governing in order to enhance revenues.

There is a lesson to be learned here by all who are capapble of learning lessons that conflict with their ideologies...

20 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:38:19pm

I'm not sure why anybody is upset about Palin's money seeking, isn't that the American way?

21 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:38:59pm

re: #20 b_sharp

I'm not sure why anybody is upset about Palin's money seeking, isn't that the American way?

doesn't bother me a bit

22 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:40:14pm

re: #21 albusteve

doesn't bother me a bit

Uh huh.

23 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:40:40pm

Cool, some honesty out of the Palins. A refreshing change of pace.

24 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:41:37pm

re: #20 b_sharp

I'm not sure why anybody is upset about Palin's money seeking, isn't that the American way?


Perfectly in keeping with the American Way of doing business. But her way of doing business is not at all consistent with being a serious political candidate...

25 zora  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:41:44pm

re: #18 blueraven

karl rove thinks so.

Former Bush advisor Karl Rove says he believes former Alaska governor Sarah Palin will enter the Republican presidential race sometime around Labor Day. Appearing on Fox News Saturday morning, Rove said Palin "has a schedule next week that looks like that of a candidate, not a celebrity." Rove also cited a new campaign-style video Palin has released on her recent visit to the Iowa State Fair as evidence Palin is gearing up for a run.

[Link: campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com...]

26 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:42:42pm

re: #23 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Cool, some honesty out of the Palins. A refreshing change of pace.

three years ago, some of us here predicted her every move...and it's all come true....wallowing, uncommitted while the money rolls in

27 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:42:56pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

It is really interesting to see the difference with the Dem's troubles in the past. The Democrats had trouble with weak, boring and unlikable candidates. They still allowed idiots loons like Al Sharpton and Dennis Kucinich around. They fumbled and floundered but never wasted so much time and effort on an entire crop of unelectable extremists and idiots. The GOP is just completely rudderless.

In a field with Kucinich and Sharpton were -

Gneeral Wesley Clark, Rep Gephardt, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Carol Mosely-Braun, Joe Lieberman & John Edwards.

Edwards had personal problems.
Clark - solid.
Dean - Screamed once, but was a sensible pro-gun democrat.
Gephardt - Hardly a Kucinich figure.
Mosely-Braun - fiercely intelligent and wonderfully sensible.
Lieeberman - right wing democrat.

The 2004 Democratic field is a shining beacon of sanity in a time when the base of the party was consumed by Bush loathing.

28 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:43:09pm

re: #24 ralphieboy

Perfectly in keeping with the American Way of doing business. But her way of doing business is not at all consistent with being a serious political candidate...

Her brain is not at all consistent with being a serious political candidate.

29 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:44:50pm

re: #28 b_sharp

Her brain is not at all consistent with being a serious political candidate.

but Bachmann's is?...or Perry?
you better start taking these people serious

30 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:46:13pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

It is really interesting to see the difference with the Dem's troubles in the past. The Democrats had trouble with weak, boring and unlikable candidates. They still allowed idiots loons like Al Sharpton and Dennis Kucinich around. They fumbled and floundered but never wasted so much time and effort on an entire crop of unelectable extremists and idiots. The GOP is just completely rudderless.

Even 2008 - the candidates were largely sensible moderates. Obama, Clinton, Biden, Richardson.
Obama & Clinton had the party split, but the base wasn't getting much blue meat - no single payer & no punitive tax hikes on the rich.

31 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:49:13pm

re: #30 wozzablog

Even 2008 - the candidates were largely sensible moderates. Obama, Clinton, Biden, Richardson.
Obama & Clinton had the party split, but the base wasn't getting much blue meat - no single payer & no punitive tax hikes on the rich.

Clinton and Richardson are crooks, Biden's an idiot, and BO is an inexperienced neophyte...from the outcome of that gang, don't think for a second that this next election is a wrap for the donks

32 blueraven  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:51:17pm

re: #25 zora

karl rove thinks so.

[Link: campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com...]

Cool...the more whack jobs the more they will out crazy each other.

33 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:51:21pm

re: #31 albusteve

God damn you're predictable.

34 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:51:56pm

re: #31 albusteve

Clinton and Richardson are crooks, Biden's an idiot, and BO is an inexperienced neophyte...from the outcome of that gang, don't think for a second that this next election is a wrap for the donks

None of them are true blue moveon.org/netroots candidates who are as far outside the mainstream as 90% of the declared Republicans are.

35 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:53:08pm

my worst case scenario is that the GOP and their voters pile up behind Perry or Bachmann and they march into DC flying Gods banner in the fore...and I don't see where BO has much firm ground to make a stand against them...he better get his ass in gear

36 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:53:53pm

re: #33 Obdicut

God damn you're predictable.

it's easy...I don't talk everything to death

37 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:54:27pm

Richardson is a crook. So much so that I wouldn't vote for his lieutenant governor to succeed him.

38 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:55:14pm

re: #35 albusteve

my worst case scenario is that the GOP and their voters pile up behind Perry or Bachmann and they march into DC flying Gods banner in the fore...and I don't see where BO has much firm ground to make a stand against them...he better get his ass in gear

Image: donkey-cart.jpg

39 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:56:45pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

Richardson is a crook. So much so that I wouldn't vote for his lieutenant governor to succeed him.


Sane crooks do less damage than insane Theocrats.

40 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:57:03pm

re: #36 albusteve

it's easy...I don't talk everything to death

Uh huh!

41 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:58:00pm

re: #31 albusteve

Clinton and Richardson are crooks, Biden's an idiot, and BO is an inexperienced neophyte...from the outcome of that gang, don't think for a second that this next election is a wrap for the donks

But you don't care, right?

42 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:59:17pm

re: #39 wozzablog

Sane crooks do less damage than insane Theocrats.

Well, I didn't consider the Republican opponent to be an insane theocrat, so I voted for her. Might be the last Republican I ever vote for, though.

43 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 4:59:40pm

re: #27 wozzablog


The 2004 Democratic field is a shining beacon of sanity in a time when the base of the party was consumed by Bush loathing.

That loathing did bleed over into the candidates to a degree. Obama's big advantage was he ran with a positive message, promoting himself and his ideas. Most of the pack ran on anti- Bush platforms instead of pro Dem platforms. That's the same reason I see no chance of a Republican candidate winning against Obama. They're all too full of populist rage and are very short on real world solutions.

44 Charleston Chew  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:00:26pm

re: #18 blueraven

The full video...sure looks like a campaign ad

[Video]

"We're going to sell Jack like soap flakes."

-- Joe Kennedy, when JFK ran for Congress in 1946.

Sarah is the ultimate version of this. She's the Soap Flake Singularity. She's not really running. It's an ad for Sarah Palin©. It's an ad for her brand, not her campaign. She's not a politician anymore because she figured out that she could make a business out of not doing anything.

45 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:00:37pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

Well, I didn't consider the Republican opponent to be an insane theocrat, so I voted for her. Might be the last Republican I ever vote for, though.

I'll raise a glass to every sane republican.

46 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:01:03pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

That loathing did bleed over into the candidates to a degree. Obama's big advantage was he ran with a positive message, promoting himself and his ideas. Most of the pack ran on anti- Bush platforms instead of pro Dem platforms. That's the same reason I see no chance of a Republican candidate winning against Obama. They're all too full of populist rage and are very short on real world solutions.

On the other hand, it's socially acceptable to feel rage towards liberals.

47 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:01:52pm

re: #46 Renaissance_Man

On the other hand, it's socially acceptable to feel rage towards liberals.

You noticed that too, eh.

48 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:02:07pm

re: #41 b_sharp

But you don't care, right?

not about who's president...I have opinions but I'm way more concerned about other stuff...BO for all his shortcomings, is a reasonable guy...but hardly the superstar he billed himself for

49 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:04:28pm

re: #48 albusteve

not about who's president...I have opinions but I'm way more concerned about other stuff...BO for all his shortcomings, is a reasonable guy...but hardly the superstar he billed himself for

His second term could be really interesting. Especially if the Dems win back the House Obama can push his agenda and not have to worry about reelection. We may get to see the real Obama, for better or worse.

50 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:04:36pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

That loathing did bleed over into the candidates to a degree. Obama's big advantage was he ran with a positive message, promoting himself and his ideas. Most of the pack ran on anti- Bush platforms instead of pro Dem platforms. That's the same reason I see no chance of a Republican candidate winning against Obama. They're all too full of populist rage and are very short on real world solutions.

That was the problem of the message not the candidates.

Even in a year where the base is fired up and you have some decent candidates, if the message isn't right you don't win.

I've said this before on here - if the GOP go relentlessly anti-Obama rather than pro GOP they will disregard every single lesson they should have learned from 2004.

There isn't a candidate yet who can put across a pro-republican message, lots of effective tea party communicators - but that brand is almost completely toxic outside the base.

51 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:05:02pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

That loathing did bleed over into the candidates to a degree. Obama's big advantage was he ran with a positive message, promoting himself and his ideas. Most of the pack ran on anti- Bush platforms instead of pro Dem platforms. That's the same reason I see no chance of a Republican candidate winning against Obama. They're all too full of populist rage and are very short on real world solutions.

too many voters don't care about real world solutions...I don't fear the GOP loonies as much as I fear the AmIdol fools that will put them in office...we still have to see how it shakes out

52 Charleston Chew  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:05:15pm

re: #27 wozzablog

In a field with Kucinich and Sharpton were -

Gneeral Wesley Clark, Rep Gephardt, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Carol Mosely-Braun, Joe Lieberman & John Edwards.

Edwards had personal problems.
Clark - solid.
Dean - Screamed once, but was a sensible pro-gun democrat.
Gephardt - Hardly a Kucinich figure.
Mosely-Braun - fiercely intelligent and wonderfully sensible.
Lieeberman - right wing democrat.

The 2004 Democratic field is a shining beacon of sanity in a time when the base of the party was consumed by Bush loathing.

Worth noting that they were a shining beacon of unelectable sanity, for whatever that says about the political process.

53 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:06:28pm

re: #52 Charleston Chew

Worth noting that they were a shining beacon of unelectable sanity, for whatever that says about the political process.

See

re: #50 wozzablog

54 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:08:21pm

re: #45 wozzablog

I'll raise a glass to every sane republican.

She's an ex-Democrat. Somebody converted her on the abortion issue. She's not tea-party-insane, but she's on the wrong side in a few places, like drivers licenses for illegals and voter ID. I think if someone she respects told her the voter ID thing is a farce (ie: there is no fraud to be protected against) she could be convertible on that one. I won't vote for her again unless she converts back to Democrat.

I do like having the first Latina governor in US history. I must be racist and sexist.

Also, when she was running I heard her speak, and an audience member from the tea party asked her about the tenth amendment, and she said, "I'm familiar with the tenth amendment. What about it?" and the teabagger didn't know what to say and looked foolish. It was a heartwarming moment for me.

55 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:08:23pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

His second term could be really interesting. Especially if the Dems win back the House Obama can push his agenda and not have to worry about reelection. We may get to see the real Obama, for better or worse.

even at it's worst, I could go for that...I'm into principle and honesty, so legislate it and put it to a vote...just because I disagree does not mean it isn't fair...but I want government, not celebrity

56 Charleston Chew  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:09:41pm

re: #35 albusteve

my worst case scenario is that the GOP and their voters pile up behind Perry or Bachmann and they march into DC flying Gods banner in the fore...and I don't see where BO has much firm ground to make a stand against them...he better get his ass in gear

Don't worry, Bachmann or Perry will mobilize a ton of disillusioned Obama supporters. They're the best thing that could happen to his campaign.

57 Cheechako  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:11:29pm

On a related note, Joe Miller (remember him) was in town today trying to rally the Alaska Tea Party members. Not many members of the Tea Party in this neck of the woods. (Maybe Alaska Kim?)

58 Charleston Chew  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:12:02pm

re: #45 wozzablog

I'll raise a glass to every sane republican.

I take that to mean you're the designated driver.

59 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:12:12pm

re: #56 Charleston Chew

Don't worry, Bachmann or Perry will mobilize a ton of disillusioned Obama supporters. They're the best thing that could happen to his campaign.

Aren't disillusioned Obama supporters to the left of Obama? I can't see them going for Bachmann or Perry, even out of extreme spite. Although I could see them staying home.

60 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:12:18pm

re: #56 Charleston Chew

Don't worry, Bachmann or Perry will mobilize a ton of disillusioned Obama supporters. They're the best thing that could happen to his campaign.

The Democrats are falling over themselves to run against Bachmann and Perry.

Perry will scare female voters generally and most North-Eastern moderates with that secession crap

Bachmann - well, never successfully sponsored any sort of legislation, positions outside the mainstream on most issues and very high personal negatives.

61 blueraven  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:14:00pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

His second term could be really interesting. Especially if the Dems win back the House Obama can push his agenda and not have to worry about reelection. We may get to see the real Obama, for better or worse.

I think we are seeing the real Obama, with constraints of course. He was never a big lefty some wanted him to be.

62 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:14:19pm

re: #58 Charleston Chew

I take that to mean you're the designated driver.

heh
good one

63 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:15:57pm

re: #50 wozzablog

That was the problem of the message not the candidates.

Even in a year where the base is fired up and you have some decent candidates, if the message isn't right you don't win.

I've said this before on here - if the GOP go relentlessly anti-Obama rather than pro GOP they will disregard every single lesson they should have learned from 2004.

There isn't a candidate yet who can put across a pro-republican message, lots of effective tea party communicators - but that brand is almost completely toxic outside the base.

I don't know that that's as true as you think it is.

The rules are different for Republicans vs Democrats. And it's because one side has effectively won the media war. It's totally socially acceptable to hate liberals. It's not acceptable to admit to being a liberal. The Conservative cult has won the message war - criticise them in the mainstream, and you have to couch your criticisms in caveats: 'there's nothing wrong with being religious, but I don't think it should maybe necessarily be used to guide government, though I'm not against Christians, oh no.' Or 'there's nothing wrong with being rich, we just need to raise revenues, but we're not just about tax and spend, really we're not'. And so on.

Conversely, it is completely acceptable in the public sphere to dismiss your opponent and/or his ideas by saying, 'they're liberal'. Case dismissed - nothing more needs to be said.

The message war is won. Conservative cultists have successfully created an atmosphere of mistrust and cordial loathing in the general public, even if it's not the outright hatred that they themselves feel. In other words, Republican can run entirely on a message of hate, and expect it to work, because the media powers that own them will see to it that it does.

64 Charleston Chew  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:16:07pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Aren't disillusioned Obama supporters to the left of Obama? I can't see them going for Bachmann or Perry, even out of extreme spite. Although I could see them staying home.

Sorry, I meant they'll come out for Obama despite their complaints about him.

65 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:16:28pm

re: #61 blueraven

I think we are seeing the real Obama, with constraints of course. He was never a big lefty some wanted him to be.

Obama's Health Insurance Exchanges and promises to return tax rates to 1990's levels for those on over 250k were about as whacked out and leftist as he got.

Not in favour of Gay Marriage or drug legalisation. It's a hard sell that he's the second coming of Marx and Harvey Milk.

66 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:16:49pm

re: #60 wozzablog

The Democrats are falling over themselves to run against Bachmann and Perry.

Perry will scare female voters generally and most North-Eastern moderates with that secession crap

Bachmann - well, never successfully sponsored any sort of legislation, positions outside the mainstream on most issues and very high personal negatives.

neither did BO...that's the point
if he can get elected, so can MB by that same standard

67 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:16:54pm

re: #64 Charleston Chew

Sorry, I meant they'll come out for Obama despite their complaints about him.

Ah, good. I hope so.

68 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:19:04pm

re: #63 Renaissance_Man

pretty much agree...issues and solutions are so diluted that Bozo the Clown could win it

69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:19:17pm

As a capitalist? Why not?

The iron was hot; she's not going to be President; still turns on the old guard.

She let down her state? C'mon. Everyone knows she was ineffectual as Governor.

So, why not?

70 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:21:29pm

re: #66 albusteve

neither did BO...that's the point
if he can get elected, so can MB by that same standard

He did more in the Illinois State senate for poor Americans than Bachmann's managed to do in Congress.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

And in a very short time in the US Senate had two bills become law - as well as co-sponsoring others that did.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

71 blueraven  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:22:02pm

re: #69 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

As a capitalist? Why not?

The iron was hot; she's not going to be President; still turns on the old guard.

She let down her state? C'mon. Everyone knows she was ineffectual as Governor.

So, why not?

She can do what she wants, but her brand of politics is bad for this country. Her negatives are sky high, she is divisive and ignorant. Sister Sarah is a fraud.

72 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:22:24pm

re: #70 wozzablog

He did more in the Illinois State senate for poor Americans than Bachmann's managed to do in Congress.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

And in a very short time in the US Senate had two bills become law - as well as co-sponsoring others that did.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

not good enough for me...my standards are much higher

73 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:23:44pm

re: #70 wozzablog

In short, in the Senate - Obama passed atleast two sponsored or co-sponsored bills.

In the House Bachmann - over a much longer period, with a president of her own party - a big fat zero.

74 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:24:14pm

re: #72 albusteve

Whoop-de-do.

75 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:25:07pm

re: #25 zora

karl rove thinks so.

[Link: campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com...]

I posted on it this morning. The screamers at #palin were about to lose their crap (again) over the ad and the move to some larger venue. [Link: bit.ly...]

I wonder what they'll do when she ends up playing Lucy/Charlie Brown/football with their money, once again. Probably nothing except hit that "donate" button some more.

Stupid dupes - I do enjoy watching her exploit their dumb bigot asses /Schadenfreude

76 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:25:41pm

re: #72 albusteve

not good enough for me...my standards are much higher

Whats the qualification?
World peace?................Billions in market cap?

Who is qualified?.

77 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:26:04pm

re: #74 wozzablog

Whoop-de-do.

I'm not going to compare one to another beyond what I posted...neither MB or BO is fit for the presidency....take it however you will

78 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:27:09pm

re: #76 wozzablog

Whats the qualification?
World peace?...Billions in market cap?

Who is qualified?.

nobody that I can see...nobody

79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:28:21pm

re: #71 blueraven

She can do what she wants, but her brand of politics is bad for this country. Her negatives are sky high, she is divisive and ignorant. Sister Sarah is a fraud.

I don't disagree. So, it didn't hurt her state. She's made a freakin' fortune. I'm just saying it's not bad to go make money while you can.

She'd be worth a tenth of the money if she would have finished her term.

Money is a good a reason to leave public office as any, I guess.

80 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:28:56pm

re: #77 albusteve

I'm not going to compare one to another beyond what I posted...neither MB or BO is fit for the presidency...take it however you will

The only qualification for being President is beating the other guy or gal.

81 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:30:14pm

re: #78 albusteve

nobody that I can see...nobody

Well then, join us in sorting out the least un-qualified/

82 palomino  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:30:55pm

re: #77 albusteve

I'm not going to compare one to another beyond what I posted...neither MB or BO is fit for the presidency...take it however you will

who IS fit for the presidency? I don't see anyone running on the gop side who qualifies either...maybe just think of it as lesser of two evils.

83 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:31:39pm

re: #81 wozzablog

Well then, join us in sorting out the least un-qualified/

thanks, but not interested

84 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:33:33pm

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't disagree. So, it didn't hurt her state. She's made a freakin' fortune. I'm just saying it's not bad to go make money while you can.

She'd be worth a tenth of the money if she would have finished her term.

Money is a good a reason to leave public office as any, I guess.

No it isn't.

Public office is service to the nation. It is no less serious than military service. To abandon it for your own selfish desires is desertion, at least in the moral sense. If you lack the capacity to continue, if your family can no longer endure your service, perhaps, perhaps, there is a case. If you just see an opportunity to make a buck - well, that's pathetic.

85 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:34:39pm

re: #83 albusteve

thanks, but not interested

You've already admitted you plan to vote for Obama.

I have witnesses.

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:35:36pm

re: #84 Renaissance_Man

I'll let the folks of Alaska judge her. She went free agency.

Right or wrong, at least Todd admitted it.

87 blueraven  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:35:40pm

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't disagree. So, it didn't hurt her state. She's made a freakin' fortune. I'm just saying it's not bad to go make money while you can.

She'd be worth a tenth of the money if she would have finished her term.

Money is a good a reason to leave public office as any, I guess.

Sure you can make money, nothing wrong with that. But she is a grifter who dupes people out of their hard earned money...to me that is bad. Some con artists end up in jail.

88 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:37:08pm

re: #82 palomino

who IS fit for the presidency? I don't see anyone running on the gop side who qualifies either...maybe just think of it as lesser of two evils.

the fact that we keep ending up with 2nd rate presidents and nominees is enough to make me hit the bong...it's an extremely difficult job and I wonder if anybody can actually be effective, not rhetorically effective, but play it for the country ahead of party...if they do, they are dirt...if they don't they are dirt...trying times ahead judging the TP from this last go round....the voters need to step up but I have little confidence they will

89 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:37:24pm

re: #86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll let the folks of Alaska judge her. She went free agency.

Right or wrong, at least Todd admitted it.

He is a slimeball. /toomuchhairgel

90 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:38:13pm

re: #85 wrenchwench

You've already admitted you plan to vote for Obama.

I have witnesses.

I might....any elected theocrat is my dire enemy

91 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:39:15pm

G'night all.

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:40:03pm

re: #87 blueraven

Where is she duping people?

She says, "I'll come homespin a nice little mamma grizzly speech for you guys and ya give me money so I can do it some more."

The people open their checkbooks.

Where is she duping people?

People leave public office all the time to "spend more time with their families". I'm guessing more often than not; they've been caught with their hand in a jar or in a hooker. But, I'm also guessing "to go make more money" is a high percentage reason too.

93 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:41:17pm

re: #90 albusteve

I might...any elected theocrat is my dire enemy

I might also. If they make it simply, "I'm not Obama" or "a vote for me is a vote for Jesus", they'll lose me in a heartbeat.

94 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:42:33pm

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Very few Governors have ever resigned mid-term. Plenty of cabinet guys and secretaries have.

It's very, very different when its an elected position.

95 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:42:56pm

re: #89 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

He is a slimeball. /toomuchhairgel axle grease

FTFY ;)

96 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:43:10pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Aren't disillusioned Obama supporters to the left of Obama? I can't see them going for Bachmann or Perry, even out of extreme spite. Although I could see them staying home.

That's my impression. FireDogLake, et al.

97 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:44:12pm

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where is she duping people?

She says, "I'll come homespin a nice little mamma grizzly speech for you guys and ya give me money so I can do it some more."

The people open their checkbooks.

Where is she duping people?

People leave public office all the time to "spend more time with their families". I'm guessing more often than not; they've been caught with their hand in a jar or in a hooker. But, I'm also guessing "to go make more money" is a high percentage reason too.

people trust her to lead and flock to her...this is the result of her own words...she stiffed her people in Alaska and she's stiffed her buyers since 2008....she's a soap opera money making machine who's integrity cannot be trusted...she's a political nit wit with nice tits....you'd know

98 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:44:34pm

re: #87 blueraven

Sure you can make money, nothing wrong with that. But she is a grifter who dupes people out of their hard earned money...to me that is bad. Some con artists end up in jail.

I don't think that will happen. Politics and entertainment (and some aspects of Evangelicalism/persuasion) are so intertwined, I'm not sure it can ever all be sorted out. Our generation had to have one: she's the master at it. I almost feel bad for her when the day comes that her loyalists will dump her. That's going to be an ugly fall.

In the case that she announces a run, the race is going to get very interesting. I wish it were different, but she will be the one to beat, not Perry or Bachmann.

99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:44:41pm

re: #94 Obdicut

But, it is legal, no? If it were a treasonous offense, we'd have a case.

But it ain't.

I'm not saying it's moral or right. I'm saying, there is nothing binding you to stay if you don't want to.

100 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:46:04pm

re: #95 Gus 802

He is a slimeball. /toomuchhairgel axle grease north slope tar

FTFY ;)

ha

101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:46:13pm

re: #97 albusteve

That's what I mean "strike while she has her feminine wiles (or tits if you will) intact."

Without the looks, she ain't much of a package. All beauty queen and no Maggie Thatcher.

102 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:46:26pm

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, it is legal, no? If it were a treasonous offense, we'd have a case.

But it ain't.

I'm not saying it's moral or right. I'm saying, there is nothing binding you to stay if you don't want to.

you asked, where is she duping people...we answered...
legalities are not the issue

103 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:47:06pm

re: #100 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

ha

He probably smells like stale beer and gasoline.

104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:47:38pm

re: #102 albusteve

I still don't see duping. People pay her to say, "God bless America, don'tcha know." She says it, they pay her.

What's the duping?

105 blueraven  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:47:48pm

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where is she duping people?

She says, "I'll come homespin a nice little mamma grizzly speech for you guys and ya give me money so I can do it some more."

The people open their checkbooks.

Where is she duping people?

People leave public office all the time to "spend more time with their families". I'm guessing more often than not; they've been caught with their hand in a jar or in a hooker. But, I'm also guessing "to go make more money" is a high percentage reason too.

When people support you with their money because you claim you are able to do a job, but then you quit...then you pretend you want another job and they support you some more...Dupes.

106 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:48:12pm

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, it is legal, no? If it were a treasonous offense, we'd have a case.

Who's trying to make a case? Of course it's legal. It's still a massive breach of trust and contemptible.

I'm not saying it's moral or right. I'm saying, there is nothing binding you to stay if you don't want to.

Well, yeah. Is anyone saying otherwise?

107 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:48:22pm

re: #103 Gus 802

He probably smells like stale beer and gasoline.

and old salmon.

108 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:48:36pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I still don't see duping. People pay her to say, "God bless America, don'tcha know." She says it, they pay her.

What's the duping?

Do you think anything at all qualifies as duping?

If so, what makes it so qualify?

109 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:48:40pm

re: #103 Gus 802

He probably smells like stale beer and gasoline.

been workin on the Chivy!...got me a Cmroro

110 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:49:15pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I still don't see duping. People pay her to say, "God bless America, don'tcha know." She says it, they pay her.

What's the duping?

her intentions mislead....duping

111 jaunte  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:49:45pm

"How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it's about country. And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make." --Sarah Palin, July 4, 2009

112 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:50:44pm

Where is Sawah Pawin duping people? How about starting with massive historical inaccuracies. Scientific inaccuracies. Even getting current events incorrect. That, my friends, is duping her ignorant cult followers.

113 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:50:45pm

re: #96 prairiefire

That's my impression. FireDogLake, et al.

I can definitely see them being dumb enough to stay home. But they are loud wailers, who are just following what they read on FDL and Glenn Greenwald. When the election kicks into gear the "primary Obama" types will be totally marginal, especially depending what whackos the GOP puts on the ticket.

That's why I feel like, if she does something dumb and runs in '12, they'll make her the one to beat and shut her down real quick. Her on the tix means high left/liberal turnout and another R loss.

114 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:52:24pm

re: #111 jaunte

"How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it's about country. And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make." --Sarah Palin, July 4, 2009

You are so resourceful.

"to leave their positions for a higher calling", I guess one could say that she sees making money as a higher calling.

115 jaunte  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:52:53pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

Also, basketball.

"Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me - sports... basketball. I use it because you're naive if you don't see the national full-court press picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket... and she knows exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can WIN." --Sarah Palin, announcing her resignation, July 3, 2009

116 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:53:05pm

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I still don't see duping. People pay her to say, "God bless America, don'tcha know." She says it, they pay her.

What's the duping?

More like c%ckteasing if you ask me.

117 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:53:19pm

dupe dupe dupe
dupe of Earl dupe dupe

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:53:29pm

re: #20 b_sharp

I'm not sure why anybody is upset about Palin's money seeking, isn't that the American way?

Suits me, if it keeps her from running for office.

But then, I didn't want her to save me from anything.

119 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:54:40pm

re: #115 jaunte

Also, basketball.

Someone should call a foul for traveling.

120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:55:24pm

re: #108 Obdicut

Do you think anything at all qualifies as duping?

If so, what makes it so qualify?

Fair enough. They pay her to show up and say "God Bless America, don'tcha know."

She doesn't show up (for whatever reason) keeps the money.

I would qualify that as duping them.

Of course, if you want to get technical. She is the dupe. From Dictionary.com

Dupe:
2. a person who unquestioningly or unwittingly serves a cause or another person: a dupe of the opponents.

She's helping the Democratic cause more than she's helping the Republican cause.

121 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:55:27pm

re: #117 albusteve

dupe dupe dupe
dupe of Earl dupe dupe

[Video]

I would have posted Dupelo Honey.

122 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:55:34pm

re: #116 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

More like c%ckteasing if you ask me.

a lot of that too...
AmIdol

123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:55:56pm

re: #116 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

More like c%ckteasing if you ask me.


Now, that's for damn sure.

124 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:56:21pm

re: #60 wozzablog

The Democrats are falling over themselves to run against Bachmann and Perry.

Perry will scare female voters generally and most North-Eastern moderates with that secession crap

Bachmann - well, never successfully sponsored any sort of legislation, positions outside the mainstream on most issues and very high personal negatives.

Perry will turn McCain voters into Obama voters, he's not presidential in the slightest, he's a ridiculous caricature-rube who will be the joke of the US if he becomes the GOP nominee, he'll be fodder for comedy and ridicule for the whole campaign

he's the perfect guy for Obama to run against, a W.Bush-But-Worse, a pathetic redneck cartoon character

naturally, I dearly hope he gets the nod! Completely unelectable

125 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:56:48pm

re: #121 Mr Pancakes

I would have posted Dupelo Honey.

[Video]

oh man, nice snag
very cool ballad

126 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:57:22pm

re: #125 albusteve

oh man, nice snag
very cool ballad

When all else fails.... you can't go wrong with Van.

127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:57:43pm

re: #112 Gus 802

Where is Sawah Pawin duping people? How about starting with massive historical inaccuracies. Scientific inaccuracies. Even getting current events incorrect. That, my friends, is duping her ignorant cult followers.

If she believes what she's saying? Just makes her stupid.

128 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:58:00pm

re: #120 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fair enough. They pay her to show up and say "God Bless America, don'tcha know."

She doesn't show up (for whatever reason) keeps the money.

I would qualify that as duping them.

Ah. But when she shows up, she also says a lot of things which are factually untrue, when she actually gets around to facts. So, to me, she peddles a lot of lies, which qualifies as duping. She's got more untruth than truth to her.

You can hire dudes who will show up and say AGW isn't happening, too, and people will pay them money for that. But what they're doing is duping.

The actual content matters.

129 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:58:23pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Aren't disillusioned Obama supporters to the left of Obama? I can't see them going for Bachmann or Perry, even out of extreme spite. Although I could see them staying home.

Disillusioned Obama voters will still vote for Obama no matter what they say, because they hate Republicans far more than they value their disillusionment :D

130 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:59:30pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

She's an ex-Democrat. Somebody converted her on the abortion issue. She's not tea-party-insane, but she's on the wrong side in a few places, like drivers licenses for illegals and voter ID. I think if someone she respects told her the voter ID thing is a farce (ie: there is no fraud to be protected against) she could be convertible on that one. I won't vote for her again unless she converts back to Democrat.

I do like having the first Latina governor in US history. I must be racist and sexist.

Also, when she was running I heard her speak, and an audience member from the tea party asked her about the tenth amendment, and she said, "I'm familiar with the tenth amendment. What about it?" and the teabagger didn't know what to say and looked foolish. It was a heartwarming moment for me.

This is Susana Martinez? Good for her.

131 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 5:59:43pm

re: #126 Mr Pancakes

When all else fails... you can't go wrong with Van.

seen him a few times...the first was in Chicago at the Arie Crown...he was really good, excellent band and he had a ton of energy...like 1971 or so...sang some intensely serious blues...Van the Man eh?

132 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:00:45pm

re: #129 WindUpBird

Disillusioned Obama voters will still vote for Obama no matter what they say, because they hate Republicans far more than they value their disillusionment :D

hate...
HaTe!
BARTENDER!

133 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:01:31pm

re: #132 albusteve

hate...
HaTe!
BARTENDER!

The grouchiness is strong with the FDL *_*

134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:01:44pm

re: #124 WindUpBird

Perry will turn McCain voters into Obama voters, he's not presidential in the slightest, he's a ridiculous caricature-rube who will be the joke of the US if he becomes the GOP nominee, he'll be fodder for comedy and ridicule for the whole campaign

he's the perfect guy for Obama to run against, a W.Bush-But-Worse, a pathetic redneck cartoon character

naturally, I dearly hope he gets the nod! Completely unelectable

I still say, if the GOP/RNC pair him with a normal person, that ticket will pack a punch. After, all, their constituents elected Shrubya + Cheney, twice.

Now, finding 1) someone normal who 2) will also run... now that's a different matter.

135 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:02:10pm

re: #131 albusteve

seen him a few times...the first was in Chicago at the Arie Crown...he was really good, excellent band and he had a ton of energy...like 1971 or so...sang some intensely serious blues...Van the Man eh?

Yep .... good on you man.... never saw him. I had a kid late in life..... my last concert a couple of weeks ago was Big Time Rush...... don't ask. Hey it was bonding time.... because of that, it was great.

136 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:02:22pm

re: #133 WindUpBird

The grouchiness is strong with the FDL *_*

yes

137 Kragar  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:02:38pm

Bachmann: Tea Party represents 90% of Americans

Minnesota congresswoman and GOP presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann says the Tea Party represents "virtually 90 percent of America."

Evidence to the contrary aside, a sample taken from the crowd of roughly 150 supporters at Patriots Point in front of the aircraft carrier Yorktown on Friday might have suggested she was right. In marked contrast to Texas Gov. Rick Perry's campaign announcement speech last weekend, Bachmann made direct appeals to the populist conservative movement, drawing enthusiastic cheers even in the unshaded afternoon heat. In her speech, Bachmann scoffed at left-leaning pundits who she said had blamed the debt-ceiling crisis and subsequent federal credit downgrade on the Tea Party.

I'm sure she means real Americans and not commie liberal pinkos like independents and democrats.

138 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:02:52pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

This is Susana Martinez? Good for her.

I like her, I can't help myself. She and her husband seem very genuine to me.

139 Renaissance_Man  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:02:58pm

re: #129 WindUpBird

Disillusioned Obama voters will still vote for Obama no matter what they say, because they hate Republicans far more than they value their disillusionment :D

If that were true, then the Conservative cult would never, ever, stand a chance.

However, there is a third option, which is to not turn up. And that is what will put a cultist theocrat in the White House. And that's not hard to imagine - an atmosphere of poisonous hatred where Democratic voters are disillusioned, despondent, or uninspired, because every message they hear on every station is how angry everyone is about the President, and how hated they are. We almost have that now.

And it would be fixed by compulsory voting, naturally, but that's a whole other argument...

140 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:03:11pm

re: #134 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

completely off topic:

I can't get over how awesome Les Claypool is in this

141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:03:21pm

re: #128 Obdicut

If she doesn't believe what she is saying; then I agree with you.

I think she's dumb and does believe it.

Nothing wrong with saying what you truly believe.

Unless you're on the Right.

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:04:37pm

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If she doesn't believe what she is saying; then I agree with you.

I think she's dumb and does believe it.

Nothing wrong with saying what you truly believe.

Unless you're on the Right.

I think she believes every word that comes out of her mouth. Of course, I think that's a symptom of what's actually WRONG with Sarah Palin, but there it is.

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:04:47pm

re: #137 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

CRAZY EYES

144 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:04:55pm

re: #130 SanFranciscoZionist

This is Susana Martinez? Good for her.

Palin endorsee.

145 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:05:21pm

re: #135 Mr Pancakes

Yep ... good on you man... never saw him. I had a kid late in life... my last concert a couple of weeks ago was Big Time Rush... don't ask. Hey it was bonding time... because of that, it was great.

I came along at almost exactly the perfect time for vintage r/r...just when stuff started to really cook I could drive, work and had some money to go for it...just the fortunes of time, and others have gone ahead of me now...I'm getting a bit older

146 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:06:02pm

re: #139 Renaissance_Man

If that were true, then the Conservative cult would never, ever, stand a chance.

However, there is a third option, which is to not turn up. And that is what will put a cultist theocrat in the White House. And that's not hard to imagine - an atmosphere of poisonous hatred where Democratic voters are disillusioned, despondent, or uninspired, because every message they hear on every station is how angry everyone is about the President, and how hated they are. We almost have that now.

And it would be fixed by compulsory voting, naturally, but that's a whole other argument...


See, I think the disillusioned are thinking "generic republican" whereas the actual campaign will get them out to vote, because there'll be a Real Republican saying Real Things

147 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:06:21pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

I think she believes every word that comes out of her mouth. Of course, I think that's a symptom of what's actually WRONG with Sarah Palin, but there it is.

Yep.... I agree, her ardent fans don't mind being duped. "Tell us anything, we'll believe you!"

148 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:06:26pm

Wow. So I guess for the first time in history we've found an American politician that's never duped anybody. Her name is Sarah Palin. I must say, I'm impressed.

//

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:06:42pm

re: #144 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Palin endorsee.

Palin probably couldn't pick her out in a group photo, to be very honest.

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:07:10pm

re: #147 Mr Pancakes

Yep... I agree, her ardent fans don't mind being duped. "Tell us anything, we'll believe you!"

Not 'tell us anything'. 'Tell us what we want to be told is true.'

151 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:07:14pm

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If she doesn't believe what she is saying; then I agree with you.

I think she's dumb and does believe it.

I dunno. It's kind of out of my comfort zone. I can't figure out what people like her-- assuming she does believe what she's saying-- use to figure out the world. I don't get how someone can believe so many things that are easily demonstrably untrue.

It seems exhausting, and I have difficulty believing that people can really be so 'dumb' as to just believe it all without putting some conscious effort into rejecting information they don't want to hear.

152 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:07:14pm

re: #147 Mr Pancakes

Yep... I agree, her ardent fans don't mind being duped. "Tell us anything, we'll believe you!"

cream on

153 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:08:34pm

"Drill here! Drill now!"

Yep. I'm sure once she figures out that drilling in the USA won't amount to much oil she'll stop saying that.

//

154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:09:01pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

I think she believes every word that comes out of her mouth. Of course, I think that's a symptom of what's actually WRONG with Sarah Palin, but there it is.

There are many Atheists who believe that pastors are duping their flocks with religion, even if he fervently believes what he is preaching.

A pastor who is an Atheist is duping his flock.

I think Sarah believes everything her handlers tell her and think that she had an original thought once, but it died of loneliness.

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:09:28pm

re: #151 Obdicut

I dunno. It's kind of out of my comfort zone. I can't figure out what people like her-- assuming she does believe what she's saying-- use to figure out the world. I don't get how someone can believe so many things that are easily demonstrably untrue.

It seems exhausting, and I have difficulty believing that people can really be so 'dumb' as to just believe it all without putting some conscious effort into rejecting information they don't want to hear.

Slacktivist has written about this a little--specifically, in the area of people preserving their ideas about the UN by filtering out information to the contrary, but I think it works for all sorts of issues and all points on the political spectrum.

People who believe in a particular viewpoint on life, rather than individual facts, are always running the risk of playing this game with themselves.

156 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:09:38pm

re: #152 albusteve

cream on

lean on then...Stones
not nearly the Who!...LOL!

157 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:10:36pm

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

Not 'tell us anything'. 'Tell us what we want to be told is true.'

Yea.... but that's what she's telling them.... what they want to hear. She knows the spiel.

158 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:11:28pm

re: #149 SanFranciscoZionist

Palin probably couldn't pick her out in a group photo, to be very honest.

Unless it was a group photo of US governors. With a list to choose the names from. And she still might confuse her with Nicky Haley.

159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:13:22pm

I can't believe I am defending Sarah Palin.

I'm not really. I'm defending her right to do as she damn well pleases within the law.

160 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:13:47pm

re: #157 Mr Pancakes

Yea... but that's what she's telling them... what they want to hear. She knows the spiel.

she's a product, like Palin #5
she knows how to market herself...politics is the cover schtick

161 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:13:49pm

re: #135 Mr Pancakes

Yep ... good on you man... never saw him. I had a kid late in life... my last concert a couple of weeks ago was Big Time Rush... don't ask. Hey it was bonding time... because of that, it was great.

Mr. Pan was getting down with Big Time Rush! We watch them, too.

162 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:13:52pm

re: #141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

I think it's impossible to tell what she believes about much of anything because she's one of those people who's a cipher, which is a part of demagoguery, imo. The crud she spews is all strung-together bumpersticker phrases.

But the farther she goes in politics, the more the über-Christian types will start to demand what she "believes", beyond vague sermonettes that repeat lines from "God bless America" and the same AFP/Freedumb Works Dick Armey printouts all of them are reading off of, anyway.

163 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:14:19pm

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't believe I am defending Sarah Palin.

I'm not really. I'm defending her right to do as she damn well pleases within the law.

defending against who?

164 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:15:12pm

The kids are watching Jurassic park for the first time. My boy asks, "are those kids going to die?' I said no spoilers.

165 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:15:30pm

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't believe I am defending Sarah Palin.

I'm not really. I'm defending her right to do as she damn well pleases within the law.

I think she should have finished her term, but I also can't say I think Alaska was any the worse off without her.

I don't have a lot of respect for her, in fact I despise her, but who cares? She's entitled to go on the road and be a wingnut pundit if she feels like it.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:15:51pm

re: #160 albusteve

she's a product, like Palin #5
she knows how to market herself...politics is the cover schtick

Oh Steve, don't compare that woman to Le Monstre.

167 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:16:39pm

re: #166 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh Steve, don't compare that woman to Le Monstre.

right
I won't do it again

168 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:16:46pm

re: #162 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

I think it's impossible to tell what she believes about much of anything because she's one of those people who's a cipher, which is a part of demagoguery, imo. The crud she spews is all strung-together bumpersticker phrases.

But the farther she goes in politics, the more the über-Christian types will start to demand what she "believes", beyond vague sermonettes that repeat lines from "God bless America" and the same AFP/Freedumb Works Dick Armey printouts all of them are reading off of, anyway.

I doubt she'll oblige the further Christian right. She's found the sweet spot, and she'll keep hitting right there for as long as the money comes in.

Bachmann is in more of a bind there.

169 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:17:22pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

I see in my mother-in-law a lot of fear of the unknown and an overconfidence in authority.

170 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:17:44pm

I've decided to put a supercharger on my Grand Cherokee's 5.9l and race it in Saskatoon.

Four driven wheels should give me all sorts of traction.

171 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:18:44pm

re: #161 prairiefire

Mr. Pan was getting down with Big Time Rush! We watch them, too.

How bout that eh? I have a 12 year old daughter, and I'm 56........ man o man...... this was not a Led Zeppelin concert! Lots o' yungin's (girls only) and their moms..... I think the moms enjoyed it just as much, if not more than their kids did.

172 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:18:59pm

I have a family member that's been relying on student loans for her education. She's getting more for her masters now. She think that it doesn't matter who's in office or something or another. She sounds like a liberal but it turns out she didn't even vote in 2008. Seems to think that if someone like Perry or Romney become president it would matter. Odd. Given the TGOP and what with her and student loans. Also odd given that she keeps bringing up how she'll be getting so much money from Social Security.

173 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:20:08pm

re: #170 b_sharp

I've decided to put a supercharger on my Grand Cherokee's 5.9l and race it in Saskatoon.

Four driven wheels should give me all sorts of traction.

LOL!
I'd rather be in Saskatoon!
I think WC Fields said that

174 Obdicut  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:20:18pm

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't believe I am defending Sarah Palin.

I'm not really. I'm defending her right to do as she damn well pleases within the law.

But nobody's challenged that right.

175 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:21:37pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

How's your ma-in-law, SFZ?

176 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:22:39pm

re: #164 prairiefire

The kids are watching Jurassic park for the first time. My boy asks, "are those kids going to die?' I said no spoilers.

Yea... tell them they get eaten in the kitchen by the Veloco-Raptors!

177 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:22:42pm

I think people who rely on certain government programs and don't vote next year kind of deserve what might be coming for them. Don't vote and lose your student loans -- your fault. Don't vote and lose your Social Security? Your fault for not voting. People that think "they're all the same" are fools.

178 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:23:32pm

re: #175 prairiefire

How's your ma-in-law, SFZ?

More up, right now. Sending me awful anti-immigration e-mails--you know, the 'cute' forwards. Spending a lot of time going back and forth across Louisiana, since her father's not well.

179 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:23:46pm

re: #171 Mr Pancakes

How bout that eh? I have a 12 year old daughter, and I'm 56... man o man... this was not a Led Zeppelin concert! Lots o' yungin's (girls only) and their moms... I think the moms enjoyed it just as much, if not more than their kids did.

the first gig my 12yr old daughter saw was Little Feat...we had front row seats and then went backstage and hob knobbed with the band...State Theater, Kalamazoo, MI...no intention, just remembered that

180 laZardo  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:24:03pm

re: #177 Gus 802

Not just for President/VP, but the other state legislature positions too.

181 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:29:55pm

re: #180 laZardo

Not just for President/VP, but the other state legislature positions too.

Never ceases to amaze me. Especially hearing it from people who it would affect the most. I can see being a rich happy bastard sitting on a pile of cash and not voting. But the underclasses that don't vote? It's so self-defeating. People constantly expecting others to make that decision for them. Or they're always claiming some BS like "politics is depressing." Depressing? Life is depressing. Same like people that tell me "I can't watch the news." Same dipshits that watch fictional TV all the time.

182 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:31:19pm

My girl wants to go to a concert. "My Chemical Romance" would be good. Anything with Jack White. I'll have to keep an eye out for something coming up.

183 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:31:22pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

I doubt she'll oblige the further Christian right. She's found the sweet spot, and she'll keep hitting right there for as long as the money comes in.

Bachmann is in more of a bind there.

Yeah, stuff like waltzing into town whenever someone else is in the spotlight will probably always do well for her. Bachmann and Perry are somewhat more...hm, stable for the tea party, i.e. they don't play that trickster/joker's wild stuff.

The other thing brewing is this Bush loyalist faction like Rove et al vs the tea party. I feel like that whole hayseed contingent she and Bachman/Perry/etc appeals to is deeply resented by the Old Moneys (not that that's anything new.) Who knows, she could be aiming high, but I think she will eventually be kept from going further, myself, at least this year. Too much of a risk.

184 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:33:19pm

re: #179 albusteve

the first gig my 12yr old daughter saw was Little Feat...we had front row seats and then went backstage and hob knobbed with the band...State Theater, Kalamazoo, MI...no intention, just remembered that

My daughter's first concert was "The Cult" at the Del Mar Racetrack infield for free...... was that a mistake. Too much dope smoking, drunks, and fights. I got her the hell out of there. Then I took her to Tom Jones when she was 9 years old.... I wouldn't have gone, but she's a big fan.

185 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:33:24pm

Hmm. That could be Obama's playbook right there. "Don't vote for me and this is what will happen when the TGOP takes over..."

Cue to scene from "Stepford Wives" and "1984".

Play the fear card.

186 Achilles Tang  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:34:36pm

re: #159 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can't believe I am defending Sarah Palin.

I'm not really. I'm defending her right to do as she damn well pleases within the law.

You can masturbate every time you have a shower, or more often, within the law and I defend your damn right to do so.

I can't believe I just bothered to say that?/

187 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:35:14pm

re: #186 Naso Tang

You can masturbate every time you have a shower, or more often, within the law and I defend your damn right to do so.

I can't believe I just bothered to say that?/

Yea.... that was kind of random dude.

188 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:36:10pm

Tom Jones! My pops looks like him without the tight britches.

189 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:37:39pm

re: #183 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Yeah, stuff like waltzing into town whenever someone else is in the spotlight will probably always do well for her. Bachmann and Perry are somewhat more...hm, stable for the tea party, i.e. they don't play that trickster/joker's wild stuff.

The other thing brewing is this Bush loyalist faction like Rove et al vs the tea party. I feel like that whole hayseed contingent she and Bachman/Perry/etc appeals to is deeply resented by the Old Moneys (not that that's anything new.) Who knows, she could be aiming high, but I think she will eventually be kept from going further, myself, at least this year. Too much of a risk.

And the "hayseeds" resent the "elites".

190 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:38:12pm

re: #188 prairiefire

Tom Jones! My pops looks like him without the tight britches.

He has aged very well..... so "props to your pop".

Mom didn't like the fact that I had to warn my daughter about the panty toss during the encore.

191 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:39:46pm

Cripes. This town sounds like a racetrack sometimes. Between the baby boomers on their choppers and the monster truck stupidity. Some of these guys sound like they're driving water injected motors. Am I in California or is this Tennessee back in 1978?

192 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:40:17pm

My freshly bloomed Goth daughter. "Ring Around The Rosy, isn't that a song about DEATH?" The she plays it in a minor chord on her junior sized guitar. She hates the braided guitar strap. "This looks like a hippy's". My husband said we could go to Lowes for a chunky chain, instead.

193 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:42:40pm

re: #192 prairiefire

My freshly bloomed Goth daughter. "Ring Around The Rosy, isn't that a song about DEATH?" The she plays it in a minor chord on her junior sized guitar. She hates the braided guitar strap. "This looks like a hippy's". My husband said we could go to Lowes for a chunky chain, instead.

See: Peter Steele (RIP) and his chain bass "strap" Image: steel.jpg

194 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:42:41pm

re: #191 Gus 802

Cripes. This town sounds like a racetrack sometimes. Between the baby boomers on their choppers and the monster truck stupidity. Some of these guys sound like they're driving water injected motors. Am I in California or is this Tennessee back in 1978?

Depends on where you are....... urban LA and urban SF are liberal havens..... the rest of the state has gun shows, drag races, and monster trucks.

195 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:43:52pm

re: #194 Mr Pancakes

Depends on where you are... urban LA and urban SF are liberal havens... the rest of the state has gun shows, drag races, and monster trucks.

drag races?

196 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:44:13pm

re: #194 Mr Pancakes

Depends on where you are... urban LA and urban SF are liberal havens... the rest of the state has gun shows, drag races, and monster trucks.

Portland is a liberal haven and we still like crazy trucks, there's like five of them in my apartment complex, I think I could drive my VW completely under one of them

197 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:44:28pm

re: #19 ralphieboy

The Palins were in debt. In other words, they wee running their business like a government. And had to quit governing in order to enhance revenues.

There is a lesson to be learned here by all who are capapble of learning lessons that conflict with their ideologies...

Not really. Their debt was run up defending Sarah from a string of citizen's complaints whose investigation required Sarah Palin to hire a private attorney. That complaint mechanism is rare among US states, but Alaska has it. Defending against the charges was costing more than the Palins were making. With more such complaints likely, resignation and then taking money making gigs was seen as the best choice.

Honestly, I refuse to criticize Sarah Palin for that choice. She still has three children at home to provide for and as I have no children, I do not feel competant to judge her on such a matter.

198 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:45:18pm

re: #194 Mr Pancakes

Depends on where you are... urban LA and urban SF are liberal havens... the rest of the state has gun shows, drag races, and monster trucks.

I don't care about the trucks so much. The motorcycles are the biggest pain in the ass around here. Too forking loud. Too many of them which makes it constant sometimes. Some of these assholes do it past midnight as well.

199 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:45:24pm

re: #193 WindUpBird

See: Peter Steele (RIP) and his chain bass "strap" Image: steel.jpg

Cool.

200 Achilles Tang  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:45:49pm

re: #187 Mr Pancakes

Yea... that was kind of random dude.

There was a certain intentional humor and more in that...but, never mind..

201 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:46:05pm

re: #196 WindUpBird

Portland is a liberal haven and we still like crazy trucks, there's like five of them in my apartment complex, I think I could drive my VW completely under one of them

I never saw that in Denver. Last time I saw those obnoxious trucks was in South Jersey back in the 80s. I thought that trend died. Can't wait to get back to Denver.

202 prairiefire  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:47:08pm

re: #201 Gus 802

I never saw that in Denver. Last time I saw those obnoxious trucks was in South Jersey back in the 80s. I thought that trend died. Can't wait to get back to Denver.

It's so beautiful there. Seeing the mountains gives me a natural high, baby.

203 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:47:21pm

re: #195 albusteve

drag races?

Irwindale? Dude.....

[Link: www.toyotaspeedwayatirwindale.com...]

204 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:48:08pm

re: #198 Gus 802

I don't care about the trucks so much. The motorcycles are the biggest pain in the ass around here. Too forking loud. Too many of them which makes it constant sometimes. Some of these assholes do it past midnight as well.

Yea .... I agree with that..... but it's boom boxes that set me off more.

205 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:48:50pm

re: #203 Mr Pancakes

Irwindale? Dude...

[Link: www.toyotaspeedwayatirwindale.com...]

Pamona?

206 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:49:56pm

re: #201 Gus 802

I never saw that in Denver. Last time I saw those obnoxious trucks was in South Jersey back in the 80s. I thought that trend died. Can't wait to get back to Denver.

People like their weirdass extreme cars of all kinds here :D I saw a slammed Datsun 510 and a rat rodded Volvo Amazon last time I was out and about in SE PDX

207 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:50:06pm

re: #204 Mr Pancakes

Yea ... I agree with that... but it's boom boxes that set me off more.

Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. You're right. OK, I take that back. I would prefer the occasional and sometimes frequent chopper noise. That boom box shit sucks to no end. Would be nice if they actually played some music too instead of that noise that passes for music these days.

208 Gus  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:50:44pm

re: #206 WindUpBird

People like their weirdass extreme cars of all kinds here :D I saw a slammed Datsun 510 and a rat rodded Volvo Amazon last time I was out and about in SE PDX

Yeah. I'm sure that's all great for mitigating climate change too.

//

209 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:51:15pm

re: #206 WindUpBird

People like their weirdass extreme cars of all kinds here :D I saw a slammed Datsun 510 and a rat rodded Volvo Amazon last time I was out and about in SE PDX

maybe there is hope for you NW peds

210 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:51:42pm

re: #205 albusteve

Pamona?

[Video]

Yep...... and Carlsbad Raceway which they bulldozed..... that really sucked...... it was close to home. Raced there many times.

211 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:51:51pm

re: #186 Naso Tang

You can masturbate every time you have a shower, or more often, within the law and I defend your damn right to do so.

I can't believe I just bothered to say that?/

I went for radical random, and you just out randomed me.

212 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:53:12pm

re: #210 Mr Pancakes

Yep... and Carlsbad Raceway which they bulldozed... that really sucked... it was close to home. Raced there many times.

[Video]

times change...the track where I grew up is bigtime...a beautiful venue

213 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:54:41pm

re: #209 albusteve

maybe there is hope for you NW peds

Portland is a car town, make no mistake, just an eccentric car town :D

214 Mr Pancakes  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:55:42pm

re: #212 albusteve

times change...the track where I grew up is bigtime...a beautiful venue

There was something about pulling into town late at night to cruise the strip, with the shoe polish raceway number still on your windshield.

215 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 6:59:54pm

re: #213 WindUpBird

Portland is a car town, make no mistake, just an eccentric car town :D

speed and power is a universal buzz...
I'm in...Portland, Peoria, wherever

216 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 7:00:03pm

re: #214 Mr Pancakes

There was something about pulling into town late at night to cruise the strip, with the shoe polish raceway number still on your windshield.

I'm going to flip my rear axle upside down so I have 4 reverse gears and 1 forward.

217 albusteve  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 7:01:29pm

re: #214 Mr Pancakes

There was something about pulling into town late at night to cruise the strip, with the shoe polish raceway number still on your windshield.

218 Petero1818  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 7:26:56pm

re: #20 b_sharp

I'm not sure why anybody is upset about Palin's money seeking, isn't that the American way?

I don't think anyone has a problem with her chasing a buck. I think the problem is running for office and not completing your term which is a commitment to serve the people. You make a commitment to serve you should keep it. Try quitting the military half way through your term of service.

219 labman57  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 7:33:08pm

Well at least Todd was finally honest about the true motivations behind Sarah quitting her job.

So much for all of her "fish swimming upstream" and "serving a higher calling" BS. She sold out her constituents and cashed in for herself.

220 sagehen  Sat, Aug 20, 2011 8:21:18pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

Well, I didn't consider the Republican opponent to be an insane theocrat, so I voted for her. Might be the last Republican I ever vote for, though.

The last Republican I voted for was Bloomberg... shortly before he ceased being a Republican.

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 21, 2011 3:35:04am

re: #4 Killgore Trout

She's only hinting at running for President to make money and will only actually run if she thinks it'll make her more money. Of course she'll quit once it's no longer profitable.

That falls in the category of duping people.


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